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ConversationBroad-Cranberry-9050/r/seduction31/07/26 06:11 PM
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SHe's toying with you. Run away form this girl. She's giving you enough to think youll be able to hit while not lketting you hit. Even if you somehow manage to hit, youll just end up just fucking this girl and no one else until you catch feelings for her and then she's doing to you what she's doing to her man right now. I know you think "ill just hit a few times and leave", but you are focusing so much of your energy on this girl that when you do hit she'll be the only girl even giving you any a…
/r/seduction14/08/26 01:29 PM
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really this. It's her a of getting attention from other guys while she has a good guy at home. When guys start seeing past that tease these type of girls will move the goal post of what they will allow men to do to them. Im willing to bet first it started off as "i wont let another man spend the night we can just hangout" then as guys see past that tease she might go "ok it's just spending the night it's not cheating", etc. Now she's letting dudes rub her pussy and giving other dudes BJs. And i …
/r/seduction14/08/26 01:26 PM
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This is something youll learn with more experience, but when you flirt and get good at it you dont even see it as flirting. I remember when i was younger and struggling, i have a cousin whose a womanizer. Since middle school this guy got basically every girl he wanted (or they wanted him). And he'd always just say "i just talk to them" as simple as that. At first i thought "well of course, if i looked like you that would work" but now i understand what he meant by that. He didnt see it as flirti…
/r/seduction13/08/26 02:10 PM
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no, not sure what that is from.
/r/seduction12/08/26 10:50 PM
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First thing is to udnerstand women go out for fun and live the moment, men go out for the result. So it's normal to get a kiss and then to them it's just a fun moment. Do not assume that means you will get a callback or anything. It's just a way for them to feel like "i had fun and kissed a guy but now im just leaving that to a fun night". me and my friend used to always have this problem. What helped improve the odds was how we changed our post-club/bar approach. Before it was very direct like …
/r/seduction12/08/26 09:11 PM
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it happens, sounds like you have some success and it's the first time it happened. Live and learn and accept that things like this will happen. Since you have kissed before, and this is the first time this happneed, kind of clear it just wasnt a match.
/r/seduction12/08/26 08:28 PM
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I think you have just as much chance if you had a friend there. It's really about what your confidence is in every situation. If you see two girls, and you are interested in one of them but also might find the other one attractive, talk to them both. Entertain them both and they will decide which one likes you more. Like one time i was in a festival, i go to the bathroom and come back and all my friends are sitting on a park table bench. I sit next to them and they are deep in conversation so i …
/r/seduction12/08/26 08:12 PM
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i agree with this. My method with groups is entertain the group. Especially if there's a protector or a more reserved girl in the group becuase if you can get that girl to have a good time, the rest of the group will love you.
/r/seduction12/08/26 06:36 PM
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ahh i see, then yeah i saw with even more reason approach it by entertaining the group because odds are (im assuming these 2 girls are friends) they hangout all the time and dues are throwing themselves at the hottie. Again if you can entertain both, make it a bit oblivious of who you are into, odds are maybe hottie may like how you are getting the protector to loosen up, but then be like "remember im the hot one". Tbh, sometimes there are situations where the hottie is with the protector and it…
/r/seduction12/08/26 05:17 PM
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is the protector also attractive? Like if the hottie's a 10 and the "protector" is a 7-8, still not bad. Basically what im trying to say is beggers can't be chooser. So what id do is id make sure the women are having a good time, especially the "protector". If you can get the protector to have a good time than you know you are in. Flirt iwth both, have a good time wiht both, especially at the start. If the hottie feels like you are giving her way more atention off the bat than her friend she mig…
/r/seduction12/08/26 03:57 PM
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couldnt have said it better, also i dont know how the hell people are good at counting "looks". Even if osmeone is giving you that look, i feel like people try to be really casual about it. Like dudes here really think that they just need to get a 6 pack and girls are going to be kissing the floor they walk on.
/r/seduction11/08/26 03:35 PM
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it could mean anything. Tbh, i dont see it as a good sign because it's a way for the girl to be tell you yes, but easily ignore you in their DM chats. Some dudes take rejection pretty bad so sometimes girls will do the minimum to get away from you and be able to ignore you afterwards because they dont know what yoru reaction will be. Sometimes she just wants an IG follower. Sometiems she wants to chat but feels phone number is a bit too personal for someone she just met so she'd rather ease it i…
/r/seduction10/08/26 11:09 PM
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In my experience it was slightly different. I got friendzoned because i wasnt even treating them like i would a friend. I was treating them like i was their protector, a guy they could trust, etc. WIth my friends i banter and talk shit, with women i wasnt. WIth my guy friends, i kept it short because if i went long theyd grill me like "damn dude i didnt ask for a whole life fucking story". With women i was being too agreeable. Like if we disagreed on the best movie of 2026 id either fake agree w…
/r/seduction10/08/26 11:06 PM
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1 of 2 things, - She's trying to present herself as someone who takes things slow and isnt a ho, because she's probably someone who is quick to sex and everyone knows it and her friends have told her that so now she needs to give the image that she isnt quick with it and she can tell her friends "see im going but im not having sex iwht him so tha tmeans im not a ho". So setting it up as platonic is her way of setting that image. But if you play your cards right you might end up getting some. - Y…
/r/seduction10/08/26 06:26 PM
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I get how you feel. A lot with dating is testing out the vibe. If you are still getting 2nd dates, you are ahead oft he game. Means you look good enough and have great personality that these girls want a 2nd date. But dont test your luck, like you said, they may lose the spark. In my experience, there's an initial spark but that spark can easily die out if you wait too long. So my advice to you is, put yourself in situations that invite touch. You go to a restaurant? Ask for a square table and s…
/r/seduction10/08/26 04:35 PM
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Yeah. When i first struggled it was bad, then i got a gf and i was so happy because finally someone chose me. And i think i was at a point where the struggle had mentally tired me so the idea of not failing was nice. But at some point after honeymoon phase, i relaized i had gotten better at talking to girls because now my intentions were genuine and pure when i talked to them. I wasnt trying to fuck them because i had a gf so i either did nyo care to hear what they had to say or i was myself and…
/r/seduction08/08/26 03:02 PM
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Personally i dont like the waiting a day or two thing. Id just send a text getting straight to thenpoint. So id set something up like “hey it was nice seeing you today. There’s a new place downtown that ive been meaning to try out, would you be down to go with me. Say saturday at 7pm?”.
/r/seduction08/08/26 12:32 AM
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this is the perfect age to start wokring on it. Rome was not built in a day. ANd also understand that most kids your age are not good at this, some just are swinging at everything. So here's my advice especially if you are in college: College is pretty much a bubble, Eveyrone is trying to get that experience of hookups, and you are only competing with people your age. But once you graduate the whole world who is 22+ is now dateable in a weird way. Now you are competing with guys who are 30, have…
/r/seduction07/08/26 10:38 PM
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After hearing that, my interest in her just dropped. I had no energy to really continue with her. She even invited me to join her group but I was too tired for that, I just straight out asked her if she's interested in one night fun. She declined so I just moved on. So you wanted 1 night fun but lost interest when you knew she was gone in 2 days? Dude it sounded like you had the in. Never ask a girl if she wants to have sex. Because in that moment you treated her like a sex doll, girls dont like…
/r/seduction07/08/26 03:38 PM
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do what you think could help you the best. My point on speaking to men is getting comfortable with the idea of talking to strangers. As you talk to men, you realize what works well when apporaching a stranger and can then do the same iwht women. Im not saying avoid talking to women, tlak to everyone. Because the point is, being the guy that is ther efor fun. Women notice what you are prioritizing. And if you go to a place and only talk to women and ignore the men, girls see that as "this weird g…
/r/seduction05/08/26 10:51 PM
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yes. Social skills are a muscle you also have to work out too. I made the mistake of losing wieght before working on my approaches. WHen i lost the wieght, i could not understand why I was struggling. It just got me depressed. Then i gained weight back and started working on my social skills, and at the heavieer weight i was getting more girls because i was working on my social skills this time.
/r/seduction05/08/26 10:44 PM
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it's normal. I've def have had times where i met a girl, saw her from afar and thought "ooh she looks good" but then you get close and it's like "oh wow you look a lot more differently up close". The worse is someone who looks one way from behind, you see them up front and it's completely different than what you imagined. I dont think it was anxiety or anything i think you probably saw her on corner of your eye, liked what you saw, got close and realzied that she wasnt who you thought she was.
/r/seduction05/08/26 10:39 PM
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You can still do it, but you just gotta budget for going out and meeting people. If you get a date, go somewhere more casual. If you go out to the bar/club, keep it to discount beers and limit how much you drink. Then if the night turns fun, again, keep to discount beers and maybe a celebratory shot here and there.
/r/seduction05/08/26 10:33 PM
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I get it, tbh it's easier said than done. Sometimes i find trouble getting into that mindset. It's something that takes practice and when it happens you dont even notice, you just let yrouself go. So for me id say practice just talking to strangers (man or woman). Go to events desgined for people to meet, and just approach everyone with no expectation. Start approaching men. Because with men, you dont care if you ever see them again, you dont care if you offend them, you are just letting it rip.…
/r/seduction05/08/26 10:27 PM
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this is a good for step to have. Few things ill say to be careful of: - For your aversion to touch: You are right, do not avoid it. It's important to not assume what a girl wants. Something i learned was reading body language is very important. A person will tell you what they are ok with and what they arent ok with through body language. So try to get good at reading that. If they seem hesitant or pull back, then let them go and dont go further with them. Dont be afraid of push back just be res…
/r/seduction05/08/26 09:44 PM
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this is the best way to put it. Social skills i slike a muscle you have to train. At first even doing a couple will feel exhausting and too much, body will beg you to stop. But if you keep it consistent, those 5 pushups that seemed dreadful, will seem like a cakewalk a month or two later.
/r/seduction05/08/26 03:33 PM
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again, stop overthinking. Yes these things do happen but best way to know if it's happening or not, is to just try. You ahve to be ok that there might be times you will get tricked by one of these tests or methods. Like it just happens. You will never be able to recognize it until you start experiencing it. I can give you stories of times i got tricked by things like this. Worst story that comes to mind is one time i was getting close to this one girl i knew. But we were both very will they wont…
/r/seduction05/08/26 12:06 AM
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It's different ways, but most of it is to take educated risks. Sometimes you just gotta do it and not overthink it. first thing is you gotta make sure you are having fun and not in your own head. You are having fun without women and women are just icing on the cake. Then if you are in the dance floor, just dance and if you see ag irl by herself put your hand out and dance with her, see if she takes it. And slowly get closer, guide her to grind with you, if she doesnt push back then twirly her ar…
/r/seduction04/08/26 11:25 PM
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Creepy men are. Im 30, you gotta be able to legally get in a bar in the US for me tk even entertain you.
/r/seduction04/08/26 09:32 PM
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FIrst thing, you are young. I get it doesnt feel that way but at 19, you are just at the beginning of learning how to flirt. I promise you even your firends who you think are killing it, suck at this. They are just swinging at everything. I was the last of my friends to lose my virginity and i thought my friends were killin git, looking back at it, they just approached more than i did so at some point they were going to strike gold. But if we were all single again, i bet id pull way more than th…
/r/seduction04/08/26 09:12 PM
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Ive been to dallas but never nightlife. I almost moved there bjt didnt like the vibe. It’s definetely very suburban and family oriented
/r/seduction04/08/26 01:06 PM
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great read and i def agree. I learned it later in life but it definetely is something i try to do now. Go out for my own fun. Talk to everyone. I always compare it to losing your wallet. in that moment all you want is to find it. You are desperate, throwing pillows everywhere, etc. Then you have a moment where you are just mentally exhausted and think "ill go grab a bite to eat". And you open the fridge, grab some food and sit in your dining table. Look down and the wallet is under the chair. Sa…
/r/seduction03/08/26 05:12 PM
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yeah i learned the hard way that some lays just arent worth it. Usually a lot of people like this just bring unecessary drama, or want to try to get you to follow them around while they play games iwth you. Not sure if you ever saw the TK Kirkland interview but basically, he was getting asked by the female interviewer of a podcast, why he has so many kids with different women in different states. Woman is trying to grill him but he's staying calm and collected. She's basically saying how he shou…
/r/seduction03/08/26 05:04 PM
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Look im going to tell you what i wish i knew and did in college: - You sleeping with 1 girl is more than a lot of guys do in their 4 years of college. But do not sleepw ith people you arent attracted to. - College is a time for leanring and part of that learning is learning how to socialize with everyone, men and women. Learning how to flirt. Understand that you and all your friends right now, suck at flirting. Event hen guys you think are "killing" really are not good at it, they are just swing…
/r/seduction03/08/26 04:57 PM
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I was in a similar situation. It takes work because you are reshaping how your mind thinks in a lot of ways. So you will have to understand that first few weeks or months will be you wrestling with yourself to do it. The mindset is, you are there not to hangout with your friends, but ot have a good time. You do not need our friends to have a good time, you choose to have a good time with them but if they all disappeared, you can just walk up to someone and chat them up, whether they are a man or…
/r/seduction03/08/26 03:33 PM
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Ehh id say no. Im guessing festival is pretty expensive. Odds are she’ll just get drunk and flirt with every guy there and ditch you. Now you basically just paid for her to meet and fuck another guy. Best let’s say best case scenario is she goes, and you get everything you want out of this. Are you willing to pay that smount of money to potentially look and feel like an idiot.
/r/seduction03/08/26 01:50 PM
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I never saidnit’s hard to strike up conversation. I just said if you are a great dancer, and you love to dance women will see that and beg you for a dance.
/r/seduction03/08/26 12:03 PM
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I skimmed the post but the best way to get the girl that you want, is to be ok with the idea of that she may never like you and that's ok. You dont need her approval, you would like it but it doesnt make or break you. Because the thing about getting girls in general, is once you start trying to make it happen, it doesnt happen. It's like ify ou lose your wallet. You want to find it and look everywhere, put the couch upside-down, just to find it and then you dont. But then you take a breka from i…
/r/seduction02/08/26 05:54 PM
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just the first thing taht comes to mind really. The key is, you dont have to wow them in 3 sentences or less. SO i just take interest in something that they may like or wantt o hear from a stranger. "hey just wanted to say i really like that dress, you are pulling it off really well. and here i thought it wasnt sundress weather yet." "hey sorry to bother you, i noticed you were reading that book and honestly ive had it in my cart for 2 weeks and havent pulled the trigger out of fear it wasnt goo…
/r/seduction01/08/26 01:36 AM
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I haven’t broken the touch barrier because I feel like I’m good at reading body language and it just wasn’t the time. This was your mistake. If this girl is basically the girl of your dreams you should've tried to break the touch barrier. Based off what you said, this woman could get anyone she wants. She is not trying to waste her time on dudes that may be nice but the connection is fizzling down quickly. The way i would've played this was, i would've tried to get a kiss on the first date. Not …
/r/seduction31/07/26 11:06 PM
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no worries, dont send me anything. ill just say this, with taht mindset youve already lost the war. trust me i was where you were at. I get it seems impossible but hoenstly just changing your mindset is the right first step. im not saying it will make you a playboy tomorrow, it does take time but you will at least be trying to change. Like again take me, nowadays i still look into how i can slightly change my style, i google what colognes i could wear to smell better, etc. I would've never done …
/r/seduction31/07/26 09:13 PM
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Latino guy here, you gotta prove you can dance tbh. Personally i never loved to dance and i wish i had gotten into it young because the best way to get a latina woman is to learn how to dance. Alot of guys do not know how to dance so when a woman sees a guy whose not a creep and can dance, they are begging him to dance with her.
/r/seduction31/07/26 06:06 PM
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im taking a break from going out, but a few bars that i used to love to go to in case you havent been: - Barberella's on red river and dirty 6th. Probably the best clubbish bar in austin in my opinion. Outdoor music plays good mordern music, inside music plays good 80s music. It's technically a gay bar, but you could not tell tbh. Rumor has it, single women went there to escape single men and then single men found out and followed. - darwin's piano bar is one of my favorite spots to start the ni…
/r/seduction31/07/26 03:07 PM
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I was similar to you. My dating life was going nowhere in college an di decided to focus on school and career. And something you might realize is that is a huge mistake. Beacuse, college is kind of like a bubble. Eveyrone is trying to get that experience of hookups, and you are only competing with people your age. But once you graduate the whole world who is 22+ is now dateable in a weird way. Now you are competing with guys who are 30, have yearsin the game, make more money than you, and the gi…
/r/seduction30/07/26 11:13 PM
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maybe i need a better face pic because i only saw the one that showed the upper half of your face. But again, underbite i get what you mean, but also depends on how severe it is i think you can still manage around it. I promise you women are not as shallow on looks as you think. Make a girl laugh and she will look past a lot of things.
/r/seduction30/07/26 10:25 PM
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Nice response, i agree. I always say dating hasnt changed, it’s just adapted with the times. But moves that worked 20 years ago still work today.
/r/seduction30/07/26 01:47 PM
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Get to know them as a person (indirect) is more effective. I agree. Im someone who i can genuinly take interest in a lot of things. I like getting to know things, asking questions fo things i just dont know about, etc. So for me i always try to just find common ground. im not afraid to look foolish when asking these questiosn eitehr which i think helps. Like the other day, met some girls and we all got in conversation and somehow we go in to the idea of tall guys dating very short women. I tell …
/r/seduction30/07/26 12:00 AM
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it could work but i dont think it's every worked the way you are thinking it no longer works. Like going up to a girl and saying "hey i think your cute" doesnt work. But if it's like "hey what's a cute girl like yourself doing in a place like this?" or some BS like that then it coudl work.
/r/seduction29/07/26 11:55 PM
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You arent cooked on height first of all, im 5'8 and when i changed my styles i never felt "cooked". I think maybe you havent found your style yet. Like what did you do to hcange your style? Keep changing until you find somethign that works.
/r/seduction29/07/26 11:44 PM
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really it's this. Like when i was struglging first thing i worked on was my weight. Thought i was too fat, lost like 30 lbs. Still no women. WOrked oin my career, jumped to a 6 figure salary. Still no women. Got depressed and gained the weight back. Once i did the steps above i realized that it wasnt the weight or the money it was my confidence and me putting women on pedestals. Does money and looks help? Of course it does but it's not the do-all be-all.
/r/seduction29/07/26 10:57 PM
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I put this in your other post after you deleted it: honestly dude, i saw your picture after just reading your first sentence and before i saw your age. You do not look as bad as you think. Even the bumps in that one picture, arent super noticeable even in the closeup you had. Dont get me wrong, you should go to a demetologist and see if you can get that fixed. But just from the two face pics i saw, i think you have a decent foundation. You just gotta make a better effort. I might be a bit blunt …
/r/seduction29/07/26 10:43 PM
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honestly dude, i saw your picture after just reading your first sentence and before i saw your age. You do not look as bad as you think. Even the bumps in that one picture, arent super noticeable even in the closeup you had. Dont get me wrong, you should go to a demetologist and see if you can get that fixed. But just from the two face pics i saw, i think you have a decent foundation. You just gotta make a better effort. I might be a bit blunt in this comment but i really think you need to hear …
/r/seduction29/07/26 10:42 PM
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yeah i agree, like i was commenting in a post last month with a guy who was like "women dont give me signals" and he was dieing on this hill that the signals do happen and people who get girls are always getting signals where i was like "maybe they do maybe they dont but just go and talk to people dont wait on the signals". My point was dudes who get laid are putting themselves out there. Because for me if im at a club, all the women are getting flirted on by other dudes. Maybe she is eyeing me …
/r/seduction29/07/26 06:56 PM
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To each their own, but waiting for signals leads to you waiting for the perfect moment. And even if that perfect moment comes, you will second guess it and miss out on that opporutnity. Never wait for signals or go looking for it. A word of advice i once got was "you have 3 seconds from eye contact to make a move. dont hesitate just go even if it's bad".
/r/seduction29/07/26 06:36 PM
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that is completely normal, anxiety is just something you will always have, but you learn to deal with it. I had a friend who, id say he was decent, but his way of dealign with the approach anxiety was he'd start small. Talk to a few guys in the line, even if it went poorly, he was just trying to get used to just talking to people. but then after a few interactions he was past the nerves and could easily talk to anyone.
/r/seduction29/07/26 05:08 PM
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cold approach can work for everyone. Im an average looking guy. 5'8", chubby, etc. Looks are important but they arent the #1 way of getting women. A good look will keep the door open but your confidence and social skills take it home. So work on yourself, especially your social skills. Get comfortable at meeting new people whether it's men orwomen to the poiunt that talking to someone new you can just shoot from the hip and have a fun conversation with them
/r/seduction27/07/26 06:33 PM
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yeah i was talking to my friends (male and females) and we were discussing this and i basically said this: guys go to the club to try and get laid, girls go to the club to have fun. But that also doesnt mean guys dont go to have fun, or girls dont want to get laid, they are both open to it but their main priority is guys to get laid and women to have fun.
/r/seduction27/07/26 05:55 PM
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go out with her. bar or club, etc. Danec, have a good time, make out with her, etc. If it's going well at night's end, when people are getting ready to leave, and you are outside oft he bar, before anythign is said, just grab her by the hips and kiss her and say "so what's teh plan now?" and if she's interested she will go "idk what were you thinking?" and then go "i have a bottle of wine at my place we can drink it and play some games". Because the point is, making her feel like it's her choice…
/r/seduction27/07/26 04:45 PM
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For me when ive done well with girls i consider 10s, it's usually because i just go in, enjoy the converstaion but also show them im not goin gto kiss their ass like everyone else. I dont mind walking away from this conversation to go have fun elsewhere. Just a few stories that i remember where i felt i was talking to a 10: - One time i was in germany for oktoberfest, my boy was into this brunette girl who was with her friend. Both were absolute 10s (even in my drunken state they looked like stu…
/r/seduction27/07/26 03:55 PM
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since this is the seduction page, id say dont try to have emotional conversations off the bat, that's stomething that you have to grow into. Firt get the attraction from her, then as it slowly raises, you get more into emotiuonal. It's not like the movies where you get vulnerable and she falls in love. People will look past a lot of things or get more sympathetic the more they like you. Doing it from the first converation will give the impression that dating you will not be as fun. Show her the …
/r/seduction27/07/26 03:30 PM
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Dude dont overthink it. Trust me college is the time where you need to learn how to socialize. Including flirt. If i had learned what i know now i wouldve slayed in college. I took my time and overthought every interaction. You will never see this amount of women who are down to fuck elsewhere. Not saying it’s easy but once you graduate the dating pooo is open to everyone and now you are competing eith men who are 30, have money and have more skin in the game. Nows the time to flirt, to make mis…
/r/seduction27/07/26 01:16 PM
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Yeah, like ive never pulled a bartender but times ive gotten close is usually when i just talk to them and get in deep conversation a bit with them. Not deep like about feelings and shit but not as surface level. Last time i was talking to someone about how she wanted to move to NY and i lived in NY for a bit and told her how it was. This girl was young and looked good. Like every guy was trying to get drinks from her to talk to her and she’d keep it short and sweet with them and walk away. Not …
/r/seduction27/07/26 01:01 PM
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Yes this is the best approach. I used to do the whole, isolate first thing and that almost never works because her friends will pull her back, she will feel obligated to go back to her friends and also, you just told the whole room this is the girl you like. All else are second to her. No one wants ti feel second. Approaching group first works better because beggers cant be choosers. You entertain the group, at some point ine girl will try to get closer to you and then you make your move. Plus e…
/r/seduction27/07/26 12:52 PM
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I agree with any relationship or even friendships, the best ones always start because both people are equeally invested. Two best friends are best friends because they dont need each other but they choose to be around each other. If one person goes to a party without the other, no one is hurt by that. If someone needs to be around the other person, and then gets hurt becuase the other person dares to go to a party and not tell them, then that doesnt feel like best friends. It feels like o ne per…
/r/seduction25/07/26 05:55 PM
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My rule of thumb is, never use dating apps as your #1 way of meeting women. It's secondary. Becuase the problem with dating apps is it gives a false idea of what it's like out there epsecially for men. There are 2 times more men than women on the apps, and men swipe on everyone which causes women to have their pick of the litter. So even if you get likes you get drowned out. Plus, a friend of mine had a good metaphor for dating apps. It's like finding a parking spot in a lot that is full, you fi…
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:56 PM
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i would try but it depends. Sometimes that effort is best served elsewhere. One time i was in oktoberfest in germany and my boy was trying to hook up wiht some girl. So i was talking to her friend and it was going well. The friend was this really hot blonde, maybe i was a bit drunk too but it was clear she was 10 out of 10 and knew it. Blonde, nice eyes, bit of a resting bitch face, etc. And that liederhosen made her look amazing, like i just wanted to rip it off. Her and I get a cute back and f…
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:46 PM
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Look no amount of reading is going to beat actually going out, making mistakes, failing and muscling through and learnign from those mistakes. Youve done enough reading, you can't expect to go out and talk to a girl and get laid off the bat. Now's the time to find what works for you. So ill tell you a few things that helped me: - first change your wardrobe if you need to. Plain shirts and choose a color that matches you well. bomber jackets. 3-4 jeans of all different shades. And only use these …
/r/seduction24/07/26 03:33 PM
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Yeah co-ed sports is possible but honestly just go out for a good time. Go out and enjoy the sport. Because if you the guy trying to flirt with teammates, you probs wont get invited back. Gotta let it happen naturally. Go out for drinks after the game type of thing and then make an outing for the weekend
/r/seduction24/07/26 01:14 PM
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I agree and that's why i said if he had been 25 it doesnt look as creepy it just is bad flirting.
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:53 PM
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i agree that what he did was not illegal, he did nothing wrong, and i really do believe the guy just didnt realize how he was coming off. But my argument is if you are older, being bad at flirting can come off differently. Sure i get it move on. But the guy i have in hand, wont learn from it and learn how to be better at it. I see you in this page a lot, i also have friends in their 40s who are good at tlaking, chatting and can get a girl in their 20s. It's not syaing guys your ages cant do it, …
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:52 PM
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the girl who clearly was weirded out by it, and us guys who saw it who were a bit embarrassd.
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:27 PM
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i think you just realized something that a lot of guys fail to realize. I have found most guys who are bad with girls are also bad with men thye just met. So really the problem is you dont know how to talk to strangers. I had the same issue. For me i just started doing events catered for people to meet. Meetups, networking events, etc. And i just wlaked up to each person. That way i could get quick with it. It's about making it second nature. With any person, the best conversations are when you …
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:17 PM
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perfectly normal. I was like this for a long time, and still kind of am. If i have a girl that i enjoy talking to and sleeping with than i usually dont try with other women even if we arent "official". I basically had to force myself to do it more because i started realziing that women i was with werent closing themselves off as much as i thought they were early on. So i decided that unless there was certainty that we were going to be together for a while, i would still talk to women, and get da…
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:07 PM
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In some ways yes and in others no. I think, especially if you are much older than the person you are flriting iwth or trying to pick up, it's about having that realization of how old you are and look. People think they look younger than they actually look. Like i have a friendi nhis 40s. Not great at pickup but does fairly well with women his age. But wants to get with mid 20 year olds so badly. One time we were playing softball and after our game hung around a bit to check out the next game. TH…
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:05 PM
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yeah it's really this. This is where the line can go anywhere from "we had such amazing chemistry and couldnt keep our hands off each other and I gave him a BJ in his car" or "he was a good guy but then he randomly whipped it out. was such a scarring situation for me". Ive always tell people, educated risks and READ BODY LANGUAGE. What that means is slowly escalate where it's clear where you can take it. Slowly increase it. So for me, when ive gotten it, it's usually like this, we had a good tim…
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:00 PM
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yeah it's really this. And tbh, i used to be like that. People would be like "you have to talk to people" and id be like "but i am". Looking back, i was not. I was reserved, kept it at 6 feet even before covid. Because i was just trying to be nice and friendly, and my way of flirting was to show women i could be protective, etc.
/r/seduction23/07/26 05:30 PM
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it's really this. I would never say im a "player" i just changed my mindset to think "im a catch. Im funny, have a good career, and have a lot interesting things to say and if she can't see that than her loss". Then i go in and just say something random, usually around her outfit.
/r/seduction23/07/26 04:35 PM
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As someone who used to struggle (and sitll do at times). For me it was realizing i was putting too much importance in getting the girl. My nights out were only good if i got a girls' number. It's about finding that fine line of creating opportunity, taking educated risk but also not giving a fuck if you ever see this girl again, you will be yourself and if she doesnt like that then her loss. Not saying you instantly go from no girls to 100 girls, you will still fail but you just start failing a …
/r/seduction23/07/26 04:34 PM
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it's really this. All my FWB have basically been, we met, had that attraction, had sex then afterwards we just kept doing it until one of us got bored.
/r/seduction23/07/26 02:44 PM
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Yeah same here. I found that when you complement outfit it’s like your saying “i like your personality” because outfits are an extension of personality. Women know what we want so going in like “your gorgeous i just wanted to say hi” for them is like “great another guy that just thinks im hot”. Like you dont care whats in her mind. Both men and women want to earn someones affection so if you go in like “your beautiful” she’s not feeling like she earned anything. Thats why the stereotype is “wome…
/r/seduction23/07/26 12:36 PM
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dude just set up the date and make efforts with other girls. Maybe this girl is humble, but you do this with a girl who doesnt give two shits aobut you and then youll be mad when you find out she's been making out with another dude at a bar.
/r/seduction22/07/26 08:19 PM
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yes same approach. You talk a lot through phone because she can't pretend to ignore hwat you said in a phone call. So she's giving you that interest there but not making efforts when you arent there. Same rule applies
/r/seduction22/07/26 07:34 PM
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you pull back. Personally ui think you still have a chance but rule of thumb. Never give someone more energy than they are giving you. You say yoruself she doesnt respond sometimes. TO her you are someone fun whose giving her attention. She doesnt ahve to give you too much but she gives you enough to keep your attention away from other girls. SHe can act single, but she likes the fact that you are chasing ehr and not focused on others. I woudlnt be shocked if she gave you head because she felt y…
/r/seduction22/07/26 07:12 PM
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it depends on the girl tbh. In the end of the day, you just dont know people's true intentions. Some people want to ahve their cake and eat it. Maybe these girls like you, but also want to act single. Some peopel do that, they like someone, will keep them in their back pocket and then want to act single when they are out an dabout. Always have rule of thumbs adn for this, i would say stop hanging out around women who show you a bit of attention enough to get you to go out with them (im willing t…
/r/seduction21/07/26 12:05 AM
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yeah i can see that. When i finally just started enjoying the covnersation, i started doing better with women. Tbh, im someone who i can talk to people about almost anyhting. Even if i dont know it, i get interested in it because i like hearing about other people's views on things, so when i show that, it works wonders.
/r/seduction20/07/26 11:53 PM
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As someone who goes to therapy myself, and most of my therapists have been women (and some young and attractive), ive never had this happen but ive heard of it. It's called transference. Basically it's when people start to feel like their therapist hears them and forget that it's their job to do it, so they slowly start developing feeling s for the therapist, sometimes romantic sometimes friendly (like they think their therapist is their best friend). My current therapist is my age. And honestly…
/r/seduction20/07/26 11:02 PM
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I had a similar realization when i met my first GF. Basically she had made a comment about how i let the moment pass. That sometimes when you give a girl a look, you gotta mkae the move and i was too patient. Then just being with her, my whole demanor changed, i was no longer the guy who was trying to get girls so i talked to other women like they were guys. I didnt care to talk to them, and if i did i didnt care to say somethign that they may take the wrong way. WHich inadvertenlty was like tea…
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:05 PM
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i get that i know not the one, but right now you are attached. So again, same rules apply.
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:59 PM
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yeah, every girl is different. When i started in my hometown, it was pretty quick and easier. Like if a girl liekd you, it was just you and no one else. But then i moved to a bigger city and honestly there was so much games that i realized if you liked a girl you had to close it down as soon as you knew she was the one for you.
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:34 PM
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translation girl code for I slept with someone else, right? I hope that's a joke and I promise you that if this is a serious question, do NOT bring that up if you want any chance with this girl. It's going to show some serious red flags if you are already trying to control her moves this much. SHe was at a festival and your mad she wasnt responding to texts that showed interest in you. Woke upp tired and had a headache and her voice and legs were tired, probalby from screaming, singing and wlaki…
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:20 PM
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it's this 1000%. FIrst time i started to go out and talk to women, i got rejected almost every time. But something i noticed was getting rejected at the bar, club, etc was way more fun than getting rejected on the apps. For me i realized that if i went to a bar and talk to one woman, i just did bertter than 90% of the men there who are just people watching trying to get that courage. Plus it gave me enough self-confidence to try with teh next girl.
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:29 PM
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For serious stuff, yes avoid this. For fun, it could be fun but just know a lot of times they are in groups and that can be harder for them to hook up with you. Like i live in a city where bachelorette parties frequent. And it's honestly hit or miss. Because, if you just wanna have a fun time at a bar with a bachelorette party, that's the easy part. THey are down, open and as long as you not a creep and most of them are single they are def down to party. But they also have group mentality becuas…
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:26 PM
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Im not sure if this is a method or not, just what i did. To pre-face, i was a shy kid who was comfortable around friends. I could talk peoples ass off if im with friends, but sturggle to say 2 words around strangers. So when i started trying to go out, what i did was i went to events catered to get people to meet each other. Meetups, networking,e tc. ANd i approached almost everyone. I got ocmfortable around strangers because i realized if i can't talk to a man i just met, how will i talk to a w…
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:25 PM
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I didnt read the whole thing but read the first few examples. Honestly, it goes back to. Just go to places catered for people to meet and get comfortable approaching strangers. It may take weeks, or months, but just go up to people. But also recognize situation too. Two girls tanning, rpobably wanna be left alone. Honestly once you can get to the point where you dont care about approaching that cute girl, or you dont care about getting her number, you will go up to her if you feel like it, then …
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:10 PM
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It's about practice and (everyone is different) it's about finding what works for you. YOu can read every book, see every guy who gets laid and what they use, but you wont ever be good if you just try to copy/paste or dont find what works for you. Best way to find that is to just go out and get comfortable talking to strangers and making conversations. For me i was talking to men the same way i was talking to women (difference is i dont want to fuck men and had no interest in getting their numbe…
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:38 PM
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yeah i agree. I always tell guys, just go in be yourself and have a conversation. Enjoy the converstion, find common ground. Dont try to wow women in 5 minutes or less. People can read when you arent genuine. And tbh, i felt like with the B-day girl it started off well. Like as i was readying itwhen he made the dumb joke about pointing at the wrong girl, first thing i thought (without reading the rest) was "good line" and he seemed to have a nice reaction from it. Then the next line when he's be…
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:16 PM
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Id say next date you gotta have the chat. But dont ask what are we, tell her how youf eel. Be like "look ive really enjoyed our chats and i just wanted to see where we both were. Personally i havent talked to other girls, and id want to close this down now if your down for it." If she asks "do you miean BF/GF?" just be like "im willing to make it that but if youd rather wait im ok with that, i jus tknow that i want to make it at least exclusive tonight". Trust me dude, ive seen this play out bef…
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:04 PM
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I agree. Ive always said, if you look deep down men and women arent that different. The guys who get mad becuase women ignore the nice guys are the same dudes who are running after the hot women and ignoring the nice girl. WHen i meant protector, i meant more where guys really try to emphasize it in their demeanor towards women. Like of course, dont be a creep, respect their space. But it's almost like some guys want to make it clear "i dont wanna fuck you i just wanna protect you so let me know…
/r/seduction17/07/26 10:14 PM
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just text and forget about it tbh. If she texts back then great, if not. No harm no foul.
/r/seduction17/07/26 06:59 PM
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You dont tbh. Never try to salvage anything. Because right now all your energy is in this one girl, and peopole can smell that on you. Now if you want to send something, send it as a hail mary. Like "i dont care if she responds to this or not, it wont make or break me". Clearly right now you do care. So id say take that energy away from this girl, because even in the chance you do get with her, she will be running circles around you. But for me, i guess i might send another stupid text playing o…
/r/seduction17/07/26 06:47 PM
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ehh it's dating apps, odds are it was going nowhere. It was a bit of fumble but i just dont think it's as bad as a fumble as you think. Lvie and learn. Honestly, only advice id say is dont change your approach based off how hot someone is. My guess is you were being yourself with the "sup chicken nugget" because you did not expect her to respond. SO your genuine self came out there, she got some interest and responded and you hesitated and overthought it by trying to look dominant. Just be yours…
/r/seduction17/07/26 06:38 PM
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TO get over anxiety you just have to do it enough times to realize that it didnt kill you. But based off of what you said, i think your problem is you arent seeing what worked and didnt work and trying to adjust. Your just going in and basically being like "let's go out for some coffee" and thengetting rejected and not wondering why it didnt work. It doesnt work that way. If youw ere a basketball player and you shot 3s underhanded, youd get to the point where youd get decent at it but your ceili…
/r/seduction17/07/26 05:37 PM
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yeah i agree with this and was about to say somethign similar. I think it goes hand and hand with men too. Most people say they want the perfect partner. But they see that as down the road type of stuff. Bu tthen they are at a bar in the moment and see that person who looks fun but is probably wrong for them and they think "oh this is fun". I always tell guys, dont be the nice guy whose only nice because you want to show this girl that you can be a good protector. Because a woman will see that a…
/r/seduction17/07/26 03:33 PM
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i would never and honestly if your struggling to meet people or doing it to meet people instead of the purpose of exercising and using the amenities, id say you are probably just going to waste 200 bucks a month for nothing. Honestly if you want to meet people just join a class. I do crossfit, and i think it's one of the better gym types to meet people. Because there's a lot of down time in between reps. Everyone is basically doing really tough exercisesin a short amount of time. The women youd …
/r/seduction17/07/26 03:08 AM
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Id say, there's an exception to every rule, your friend might be an exception. He might be someone taht is pretty attracitve especially now that he's in excellent shape (or better shape). I had a friend like that, every girl he's hooked up with chased him. It's not like he's god gift to women, he doesnt have a rocking bod, not very tall, etc. But he's got some attractive features. I remember even being in middle school with him, almost every year a new hot girl wwould come to our class and immed…
/r/seduction16/07/26 11:16 PM
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i dont know her at all, she could be well and honest. She might not be. I could be 1000% wrong. But the thing is you dont know that. For you it's more of a thing that i think you gotta stop putting women on pedestals everytime you get a little attention because it can be used against you. A woman who actually likes you will be more understadningt han this and not need you to buy her $100s in drinks to say anything or get her to want you. Really it's a self-respec tthing. Maybe you lose this 1 gi…
/r/seduction16/07/26 05:14 PM
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Look i will say this, i never been to thailand, but ive lived in third world countries before (i wont say which) so my view of the world is pretty paranoid ill admit. But where i lived there was a saying that basically meant "fuck for the visa" and basically there was a portion of the population (usually in poorer areas) where women were encouraged to get with americans because they see it as their best chance to get money and out of poverty. As a way to get to america, get a job, and move up in…
/r/seduction16/07/26 04:32 PM
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first, take it a step at a time. Dont go shooting for them moon if you just figured out how to make something that barely gets off the ground. Of course that's the goal, but small steps and small goals first. Becuase your going to have many experiences where you think a date is coming and it just doesnt. When i started in that journey, i tried to get dates as quickly as possible. And like you i started to get more confident in just tlaking to women even if i wasnt smooth, and sometimes id kiss a…
/r/seduction16/07/26 02:27 PM
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Thats not the point. If you are at a club and making out, thats just part fo the night. Im talking about when people are ready to go home. If you spend 2 hours just making out thats great, but at the point of going home im telling you what mvoe could better work.
/r/seduction16/07/26 01:22 PM
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Honestly, the fact that you've hooked up with 80% of the men you've already kissed just shows you are killing it. If you are striaght forward about it you will get laid. There's a lot of guys (even attractive ones) that just have days they dont want to put the effort in someone becuase they just wanna fuck and the idea of going to a bar, getting to know someone, etc. Is a lot to them. Especiallyt he effort guys have to put, sometimes it's nice getting that one girl that is just straight to the p…
/r/seduction15/07/26 04:28 PM
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id disagree a bit there. I get what you mean, but i just think there's things that sometimes people have to experience themselves to see what works and doesnt work. I can read every book of every way possible, but it's not until i see it for myself and why it works or doesnt work for myself that i realize what works and how i could read the signs better. Sure there are books that are probably still very relevant to this day, i dont think the game has changed that much from the past 30+ years. I …
/r/seduction14/07/26 09:14 PM
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do it as soon as you feel like doing it. Problem with waiting for signs is that you end up waiting for the perfect opportuinity and will make an excuse everytime. So even if you saw the perfect sign, you might convince yourself it wasnt the perfect sign. Plus how the hell do you know what the sign is if you dont even know the girl? The only way to get good at reading these "signs" is by actually approaching, failing, seeing what works and what doesnt work. It's scary dont get me wrong, i had to …
/r/seduction14/07/26 08:52 PM
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when i mean a bro, i mean like one of your boys. Here's what i think of a bro: A bro is Someone who i can hype up, praise, laugh with and say jokes too whose not going to get offedned. If they said a joke about me it's all in good fun. I promise you if youg et friendzoned it's not becuase you are treating them like bros. It's because you are walking on eggshells, trying to be overtly nice and not offend them. Your trying to avoid hyping them up and how they look, and being passive. The way i lik…
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:48 PM
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I agree. Honestly women would always tell me that i should groom my beard and i never did becuase i was too cocky like "well if they really like me hair shouldnt matter". But it does. Your appearance says alot about who you are and how you see yourself.
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:30 PM
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I promise you it's not over. I was in a similar place, and ive known people in similar palces that all got past this. Some common things i notice is: - usually not a socially confident person. Before i get a "my friends say im funny" comeback, that is not social confidence. Social confidence is being social with strangers you just met. I was the "funny when with friends" guy but shy with strangers. So i had to practice to be confident with strangers (including men). I did events catered to meeti…
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:56 PM
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For me i think it's the women that expect a lot of material from a guy early on. Basically hot women who know they are hot and basically expect to be treated like a queen from date 1. Like you should feel honored to have a date with her and you have to impress her while she doesnt have to make any effort. If you look past a girl's looks, you can find it really easily. They usually arent great at conversation because their looks have gotten them really far in life. They are dressed to the nines f…
/r/seduction13/07/26 04:52 PM
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me and my friend used to always hav ethis problem. What helped improve the odds was how we changed our post-club/bar approach. Before it was very direct like "coem to my place". But you have to realize something. Women get shamed for ONS, and sex in general. So they dont want to feel like you are treting them like some one night ho. So instead we presented an idea and made it clear that it was their choice. We were having fun and we presented an idea to continue the fun and it's their choice to …
/r/seduction13/07/26 04:00 PM
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It’s really this. Like ive known women who they may be attractive but it’s not like they turn heads but they be like “i could get a bf tonight if i wanted to”. Because it’s true. They get flirted on so much that they dont even notice it.
/r/seduction11/07/26 04:14 PM
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I guess they don't want to appear as easy or something It's def this. Girls get slut-shamed for wnating to have sex. A friend and i used to go out to bars/clubs and nights we did well we noticed we werent closing well. Like we'd make otu with girls and still theyd just go home and we'd never see them. So we decided to take a step back and try to formulate a way to better our chances. So something we noticed is when it was time to leave, we would be super direct with women about what we wanted fr…
/r/seduction09/07/26 07:56 PM
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OK so some of this is assumption but based off your post i will assume that you are the quiet guy of the group tha tkind of follows your friends lead. Dont worry i was like that too. So few tips: - flirting isnt a behavior you are born with, it's something you learn. Some people just learn at a much younger age than others. So the key is to practice your social skills. I didnt start until i was like 26 so the older you are the harder it is to do but you still need to work on it. It will take tim…
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:06 AM
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This 1000%. When i was learning, i literally practiced on men at first. Not flirting, just getting comfortable starting conversation and shooting the shit with a guy i just met. Because i noticed that men who struggle iwth women, really just struggle with meeting new people in general. Once i realzied how i could make friends with men better and it was more casual, i transferred that to women and it worked wonders.
/r/seduction08/07/26 11:56 PM
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Personally first date or two i just take them somewhere casual. Especially first date. You can easily find fancy places that even if price for a single thing is high, nobody is going to order a high number of. For example, rooftop bars. A cocktail is probably going to be 3-6 dollars more expensive than a regular place. But in a first date no girl is going to buy 5-6 cocktails. So usually i tend to spend around 50 bucks in a date like that and that includes appetizer. Now for 4 dates that's still…
/r/seduction08/07/26 11:54 PM
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can't really say. it could be a millions reasons. She just wasnt feeling it for whatever reason. maybe something you are doing. Like you say you are hesitant to escalate, people read body language maybe that's the problem. Stop assuming that the date will end in sex if you escalate. Treat it as a "we'll cross that bridge if we get there". Be yourself and loose. Sometimes people dont mind a 1st date kiss. Like when i've gone to clubs and kissed girls, a lot of times i dont get a callback. Some wo…
/r/seduction08/07/26 09:07 PM
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I love rooftop bars for first dates tbh. Super casual, even if drinks are more expensive, there's no real need to buy more than 2 drinks. Normally i spend like 50 bucks between us 2 because she might get 2 cocktails, and an appetizer we share.
/r/seduction07/07/26 03:03 PM
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exactly my point. I went to my area's "party school" but i knew guys who got way more than i did going to the community college. Difference was they took advantage of their surroundings, i did not. I acted like it would just magically happen, instead of creating the opportunities i should've to have max success. I played it safe, instead of being more outgoing and risky.
/r/seduction06/07/26 10:17 PM
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never been but knew a guy who went to ASU, apperently huge party school and he said the party stories were real. I dont ahve any specific stories but take that with a grain of salt. But in the end of the day, i dont think you should chase the party for college. Go where you think youd get the best education and experience for tthe minimal price. Trust me if you can't get laid in a non-party school, then you wont get laid in a party school. I went to the party school of my area, barely got anythi…
/r/seduction06/07/26 09:06 PM
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look, if you just wondering and it hasnt been clear. You gotta make the move now. Dont wait, you either get rejected or not. And both options are better than just watining becuase of a what if. If you get rejceted you can use this time to readjust your life a bit and focus on other things even if you need a few days to get over her, you will get over her. It's better than continuing this and getting further and further in the friendzone.
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:30 PM
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Personally i try to have a small list that i could say at any moment to get the covnerstaion going again. Because in an approach, conversation could die down easily at first. So i try to have a few questions i could ask to get the ball rolling and once it can roll on it's own then im good. Usually i try to find common ground. There's osmethign that everyone can talk about for hours, so im trying to find that.
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:07 PM
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Im someone who learned on the fly and by making mistakes, just a few tips: - it's ok to make mistakes, just understand what you did wrong and learn from it. - Understand even if you get good, you will get more rejections than successes. Like im willing to bet most guy's sucess rate is like 5% if you are good at it. Thing is they talk to most women even if it's not flirting. - Understand that there is no "flirting mindset", just enjoy the cnversation but also be open to leading it to a potential …
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:51 PM
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can you overcome the friendzone? Of course you can. But tbh, the best way to do it, is to not try to overcome it. Because the energy you spend trying to overcome it is just going to make it harder for you to overcome the friendzone. She wont get more interested in you becuase in the end of the day she holds the power dynamic in your friendship with her. People want to feel like they have to earn your affection (this goes for relationships and friendships). When you have to fight for a relationsh…
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:38 PM
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Ive been on both sides of the coin for this one. Was a shy kid terrified of women, then even as a young adult i became more social but still not great with women and ended up working my way to be decent with them. Im also a fellow coder so i know exactly what you mean. The problem i see in people in general (even outside seductioN) is people are quick to recognize a problem but slow to act on it. It's easier to blame the world for you not being good at something adn say how you are trying when y…
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:34 PM
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it's something you gotta practice. Go out and just talk to random people. Go out to netowrking events, meetup events, etc and just try to meet new people (even if it's just men). The idea is to help stretch that social muscle until it gets stronger.
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:32 PM
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everyone is different and there are different approaches but why are you trying to wow a woman in 3 sentences or less? Problem i see with a lot of men is they think they have to wow someone in less than 5 minutes. Your just making it harder on yourself. It's about finding that fine line between "how are you?" and a witty funny comment. For me i try to find common ground before i start being witty and funny. My opening line is usually something that complements something outside of her looks and …
/r/seduction02/07/26 05:02 PM
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Personally i would say dont try to force yourself out of the friendzone. Because you dont really know this girl's intention with you. She may be pulling you in enough for the attention and then pusing you back when you try to take it further. Maybe she legit likes you and is trying to take it slow, who knows? But when you try to force yourself out of the friendzone you will put all your focus on this one girl. maybe you succeed or maybe you waste your next 2 months on a girl who was never intere…
/r/seduction30/06/26 07:02 PM
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Tinder is still worth trying, but not as your #1 option to meet women. Your friends are giving you the keys to success and you are just throwing it away. Instead of judging them for looking choppy, try to hang around them and learn from them. Nobody was born being good at this, everyone had to learn it somehow. Your short friend is the perfect example, he fucked a 10 just from approaching. Ill frist tell you the problem with the apps. There are 2x more men on them then women. If you got to a par…
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:48 PM
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most potential FWBs end because both people stop texting. If you want to continue this let her know. If it's been a day or two, be like "hey im still down to continue this, but ive gotten a really bad cold and dont want to get you sick" or somethign on those lines. Keep communication open, not too open but open enough where she doesnt get the idea that you are no longer interested or someone else caught your eye. Since you got it on monday, if you feel like you could get better by friday or satu…
/r/seduction24/06/26 08:06 PM
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stop overthinking the first line. The problem is that many men want to get to the perfect result so a lot of times conversation feels forced. Just enjoy the conversation. For me i try to just start off trying to find common ground. Lead with a comment then question. "hey i just wanted to say i like that outfit." "hey, i really like your shirt, are you big fan of that band?" "hey i like your outfit. .... I noticed you were reading a book, i saw it on amazon and just wanted to get your take on it …
/r/seduction24/06/26 07:29 PM
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25 minutes could be a bit long tbh, but dont let that get to you. It's only a problem if you make it a problem. Find alternatives, dont stop from trying, dont get ahead of yourself when you dont even have the girl that would be down yet.
/r/seduction24/06/26 06:36 PM
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Look for signs that they are. They will usually try to distance themselves a bit from their group (or seem disinterested in their group). If they give you eye contact and show open body language, that's a great sign. This exactly. A female friend once told me somethign i take to heart now. That men have forgotten or not learned how to gauge body language. How a women will tell you a lot through body language. Take that into the club. If girl is just mostly with her friends, focused on them and t…
/r/seduction23/06/26 04:02 PM
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Came here to say something similar. Look if OP feels slighted by that, he shouldnt stay. There's a million reasons why she slept with that guy quick and it sounds like she admitted "i was drinking and slept with him quick because my judgement was a bit impaired". Sometimes people go through that phase too and realize "if i want to be taken seriously i gotta stop doing that". And that's fair too. Does it mean OP needs to stay no, if he wants to leave because of this then he should leave. But does…
/r/seduction18/06/26 03:31 PM
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honestly 1/8 is not even remotely bad. Like what percentage do you think is even good or bad? What percentage do you think the more succesful people are having? One of my favorite scenes is from HIMYM. Barney (womanize of the grooup) is celebrating 200 lays. Marshal (body count of 1) basically tells barney how barney's not that good at getting girls. He pulls out a chart and basically says that if he averages out the women barney flirts iwth with the women he gets with his success percentage is …
/r/seduction16/06/26 11:21 PM
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I think it's multiple things: - guy is afriad of rejection and has self esteem issues himself. - girl gets flirted by so many guys that it feels like you have to compete more for her attention. - sometimes these women do have inflated ego so you see a hot girl you assume she's got some type of inflated ego. Basically men just like to assume a bit too much when it ocmes to women (even the average one). And as men, puilling is hard enough so why play it on hard mode when we can play it on medium m…
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:27 PM
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id say get comfortable going to events. If the hostel doesnt mind or care just go. Not sure what country you are in, but find some sort of group meetup that happens around you.
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:37 PM
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Tbh, nothing wrong with how you feel and it's probably better than to keep asking yoruself if she lied or what you did wrong? In the end of the day, i just dont think attraction is something you can absolutely list. When i hear answers to "what are you looking for?" i read it as "this is what im hoping to get in someone i end up attracted to". But it gets presetned as "if you dont ahve this then i wont be with you". Because those guys you mentioned that they are dating, maybe they didnt fit the …
/r/seduction10/06/26 08:14 PM
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Well i just think because the f-boy is being genuine with who they are. The nice guy isnt being genuine with who he is. Because the nice guy will try to act too nice to get the girl. Almost like "i see you as a friend but really i wanna get in your pants". SO nice guys will stay 6 feet apart, not take the educated risks, keep it civil, etc. and then want to make their move. That's not genuine. But the f-boy is like "this is who i am so take it or leave it". That's genuine and i think in the end …
/r/seduction10/06/26 12:49 PM
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yeah this is probably a mental block. I remember i went through a dry spell and when i finally broke it, it took me months to even finish regularly from sex. Unless i was going solo i just couldnt. Even the girl i was with noticed and was kind of getting annoyed. It was to the point that we literally had a 45-60 minute session a few times and i was still hard but nothing was coming out. I just remember at the time i wasnt feeling my best and my self-esteem was low and i felt like i needed to per…
/r/seduction10/06/26 12:38 PM
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Is there a reason you dont drink? Not judging. I didnt have my first full drink of beer until like 26 tbh. At the time i just dint like the idea of being drunk and needing alcohol to have fun. Then when i moved, i was in a city with a big nightlife so i decided to just gie it a try. I found a happy medium. I can drink 3-4 beers and be happy and tipsy. And not feel like i need to drink more. If you have similar reasons that i did, i say give it a try. It def does help to get out of your head a bi…
/r/seduction06/06/26 07:17 PM
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i agree. And tbh i kind of agree on the messy part. Because for me i dont judge if women wanna be quick with it have at it. But what i do judge is people who try to set a boundary and at the first chance to set it, just throw themselve sback in the same situation. It's not even about the sex to me at that point, it's about self-control. Like that just proves to me that you can't really set a goal and stick to it.
/r/seduction05/06/26 04:29 PM
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i tend to talk to everyone. Tbh when i put my focus on just talking to women, i got less women because i was forcing myself to try to get women. But when i was open to just tlaking to everyone, the conversations started to be more genuine. And to my surprise, women notice when a guy is liked by multuple people in the room. And when i mean like i dont mean in a romantic sense. In the sense of, people seem to really enjoy being around you. I had a girl i got with basically tell me how she liked ho…
/r/seduction05/06/26 04:01 PM
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Personally the way you wrote this, move on. Doesnt seem like you respect her that much tbh. Or you just mostly want sex, and she wants more of a relationship. She can start it and stop it whenever she wants. Maybe it was a moment of weakness and she realzied "ok let me take a step back and try to get the answers first". The thing is, men decide the relationship, women decide the sex. When one side gives in too quickly they lose the edge. This is a perfect example, you want to make her your GF, y…
/r/seduction04/06/26 11:48 PM
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exactly. I dont know who to blame, TV, movies, etc. Like people think you need to wow a girl in 3 sentences or less. It does not work that way. Ive had more successes making genuine comments and showing appreciation in times like that because odds are, they are burned out and most people do not thank them. Maybe they had a patient give them a difficult time so they appreciatie when one patient doesnt give them a hard time and is appreicative. Even in a real world club/bar experience. You dont ne…
/r/seduction04/06/26 08:38 PM
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I like to give advice here, but i agree. Im someone who had to learn how to talk to women in my mid 20s. I took all sort of advice that didnt work for me. So really what i always try to say is take most things with a grain of salt because what worked for 1 person may not work for you. But in general i do think some of the advice here can work but it's about practice and consistency.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:01 PM
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I read some of your comments. Here's the thing, youc an't really force it. It just kind of happens and you learn with the punches. At 23, women 27 and above will see you as a baby. THey just will. Im 30 and the other day i was talking to a 37 year old and she was like "You are such a baby". Ive dated women older than me and for some reason women 4+ years older than me think im some baby. It just is. So first understand there's almost no way to really get past that. Dont try to prove yourself mat…
/r/seduction04/06/26 03:02 PM
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dude not sure how you got that from what i said. It's literally just decent human respect. Im not saying stay there for 3 hours trying to convince her to like you. All im saying is dont walk away mid-sentence just cause she doesnt like you. That type of energy starts to become noticeable. Ill let her finish the sentence and then be like "i gotta find my friends but it's nice to meet you" and walk away. Ok if she disrespects you, then you can return that energy and walk away. But if she's just no…
/r/seduction04/06/26 12:53 PM
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Honestly, as weird as it sounds, it probably gets you in with women more. I had a friend who would purposely get a bit flamboyant so he could get in with female groups and he got the "are you gay?" question a lot. But if you know how to maneuver it back then it can work. For me i like to make small little jokes that can be very funny and witty. Even if at my own expense. So fi it's based on how you dress, then i might go something like "you know people ask me that based on how im dressed and som…
/r/seduction03/06/26 10:40 PM
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I dont really get wild like that, but im more of a jokester/teaser. So a lot of my jokes are a bit risky, not in a disrespectful sense but more in the "if she takes this the wrong way or is too sensitive it could go wrong". But i ahve 3 stories, 2 kind of safe for work, last definetely not lol. I was at a superbowl party (the kendrick year) and one of the hosts (female) friends were there. ALl these girls were in their mid 20s. ALl were pretty but they def hda that group prettyness going on. Lik…
/r/seduction03/06/26 09:43 PM
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exactly this, walking away gives the vibes that you think you deserve women's attention and affection. it comes off as you think you are god's gift to women and they are disrespecting you for not kissing your ass.
/r/seduction03/06/26 08:27 PM
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exactly this. Let them finish their point, say cool and wish them a nice day. There's so many ways to excuse yoruself from a situation and not seem like an AH. Why choose the most AH thing to do. Plus word spreads around quick especially among women, dont be the guy that women are like "ok that guy doesnt even care to hear what you are saying and will walk out mid sentence if you dont show any interest like he's god gift to women".
/r/seduction03/06/26 08:26 PM
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I hope this is a joke but ill respond. You dont do anything but catch up. You accept she has a husband and leave it at that. Even if she is into you, you want to get and fall for a girl who'd dump her husband and kids for you? You think she wouldnt do the same to you when she gets bored with you? Let's say she is into youa nd you guys hookup, you really want to risk this husband being crazier than you and now you have some issues. Or being the guy that steals wives and now your friends dont trus…
/r/seduction03/06/26 08:11 PM
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really this. I saw a video where a guy was explaining "is it better to be a nice guy or f-boy?" and what he was syaing was interesting. He basically explained why the f-bioy gets girls and the nice guy doesnt. But he also said why the f-boy isnt good either. And from what i remember he basically said to take characteristics from both types of people and that would give you the best chance to get women. The reason f-boys get more girls is because early on they already have the right characteristi…
/r/seduction03/06/26 07:49 PM
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Yeah, dont touch her butt even if she was comfortable. Especially on a first date. Respect what she is saying. But that doesnt mean you can't lead with suggestions. Next time you see her, keep the hand holding, let her get close as she wants, etc. Then if the date goes well, just ask. But the way you ask is important, dont ask like "can i kiss you?" because that comes off like "i want to but im nervous about your answer". Instead ask it in a way that you are suggesting an idea, but her answer wo…
/r/seduction03/06/26 03:22 PM
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my best bet is escalation. I read another one of your comments where you say you are awkward and are having a hard time getting a date with them. I think that's where your problem is a bit. Im not saying you need to sleep with them that night but you need to be more open and forward with the idea of trying to hookup with them that night. The thing is, women like going out and having fun, they dont care aobut a ONS because they get judged for it. So if you get their number, they are more likely t…
/r/seduction02/06/26 05:43 PM
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Usually i try to make the conversation genuine. You ask the basics but also introduce some funny conversations and stories. It doesnt have to be an interview style type thing. So if she tells me about a hobby "let's say rock climbing". Ill ask her about how it feels, if she's ever scared, tell her how she's brave because im too much of a bitch to even try that. Then i might introduce my fear of heights and a funny joke about i have to second guess going down steps out of fear of falling and tell…
/r/seduction01/06/26 08:57 PM
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Like a girl who is unremarkable, looks boring, acts boring etc. would probably not date Dennis Rodman. She'd be scared of the attention. I agree. Like people are like "how did he pull carmen electra". Carmen electra wasnt some reserved girl. To be in that business you have to try to be unique, and in some ways follow a standard and fall in line. A lot of times celebrities feel like they are in some enclosed box. So a guy like rodman, who followed the beat to his own drum, got criticized but was …
/r/seduction01/06/26 02:22 PM
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Celebrities especially in the arts (music, actors, etc.) are all known for trying to be different. Getting made fun of since grade school for liking the arts. So when they see a guy like rodman being unapologetically himself and outrageous, they love it. It’s similar to how pete davidson got with so many models. The money, status and them being weird and not afraid to be weird gets attention
/r/seduction31/05/26 10:54 PM
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your not an asshole. It sucks because a girl like that you know will be stress free but if yuo arent in that place in your life and you are kind of losing the attraction, it's not fair to her or yourself to continue it. Let her find someone willing to wait.
/r/seduction29/05/26 11:15 PM
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idk what my answer would be exactly if asked but ones that come to mind are: - Who your friends are? I dated someone with shitty friends, she was a great girl but her friends became a big issue for us. SHe was too much of a people pleaser to call them out and then got mad at me for calling shit out. Then i realized this girl just loved being around toxic peopke, they made her feel needed. But tbh, i just could no longer trust that her friends would have her best interest at heart and i realized …
/r/seduction29/05/26 07:17 PM
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Dont go cold turkey and try to only talk to girls. Being social is like a muscle you gotta stretch. Start easy, try to tlak to some men about anyhting, sports, your job, etc. Make some male friends and use that to gain confidence in how you approach people in general. I have a friend that goes out solo at times and he does this, he'll befriend a bunch of men and tyr to get his own little group so he feels socially confident then he'll slowly introduce women to the group, wingman and try to get h…
/r/seduction29/05/26 06:16 PM
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This woman will see you in some ways as a kid. She probably wants a blank canvas she can teach how to please her whose got the energy. Odds are she is not heading into this thinking that it's going to end up being serious or looking for serious. So in my opinion, be open to escalating. Of course, check out the vibe but odds are this girl wants to have a good time.
/r/seduction29/05/26 06:05 PM
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honestly that's not a bad job to even say tbh. You can make up some BS in between too like how you are looking to become a principal or something. Like if you made it into a story of trying to better the youth i think chicks woudl dig that. Problem is you dont beleive it's a job that would get girls to like you so your delivery on what you do is probably not the best. SO if you just say "oh just a tutor" they may go "uhh". But if you say "yeah i decided to dedicate my life into tutoring the futu…
/r/seduction29/05/26 12:04 AM
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i know right, like the fact pondy12 has 43+ likes and foreverseeking47 has -8 likes is insane to me. Says a lot about how men are trying to blame everyone but themselves. Like pondy12 is basically saying "it's women's fault because they will call the police on you if you just ask them if they want coffee but you are ugly while doing it" Where ForeverSeeking is basically saying "men have to ahve more self-awareness of what they are doing wrong". Im surprised i have 5 likes so far. Like ive seen s…
/r/seduction28/05/26 11:29 PM
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I mean what do you do, maybe we can help with a good response. Like if you have a job you think doesnt get looks, it's about delivery and confidence. You can make it work but if you dont have confidence that people will like your job then you wont succeed. You are caring too much in the response than the actual covnersation. Liek if you are a garbage man and dont want people to know, id come up with witty jokes like "what do i do? You might have to stick around me to find out. I cant just give t…
/r/seduction28/05/26 10:37 PM
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you dont have to do it everyday, just dedicate time each week to going out and meetin gnew people. Doesnt have to be women, but keep that social battery active. It's a muscle that needs ocnsistent stretching. Find an event in town where people meet new people. Networking event, meetup app, jigsaw dating event, etc.
/r/seduction28/05/26 08:56 PM
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I think you should reject. She is not in a good place. It doesnt sound like you are either (maybe not as bad as her but have had issues). SOmetimes it's better to be single int hese moments than go looking for relationships because they can end badly. I had a female friend who jumped from relationship to relationship, got in one that ended up being toxic. She was not in a place to date or anything. But she kept jumping into it like she needed that validation. I saw hr have a crazy fight with a g…
/r/seduction28/05/26 08:47 PM
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This one's tough because of what she is going through. If true that she's going through suicidal shit, she needs a friend not a lingerer whose trying to get with her. I get you are trying to find the most respectful way to do it, but this could go terribly wrong. She might be looking to confide in a friend and you admitting feelings might tell her "oh so you were never really my friend and just wanted to get in my pants?". If it were just a regular meetup id say confess your feelings in a way th…
/r/seduction28/05/26 07:39 PM
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see that's your biggest mistake. You put this girl on a pedestal when she hasnt deserved it yet. It's ok to make someone earn that too. As men we are told tha twe need to earn women's love, but never the other way around. It's ok to make them earn our love to. My rule of thumb, give someone respect until they dont dfeserve it. So for me in dating it's like i will schedule my time aorund you until you make it clear you wont do the same for me. At the first "maybe" or date change im already shifit…
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:39 PM
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Id say best to consider it a no and move on. Dont plan your day around the meeting, if youa re free and she reaches out than cool. Because if she likes you, she will do everything possible to make that meeting happen as soon as possible. If she is truly booked she will suggest other times. She has her best friends birthday coming up? "Sorry my friends borthday is tomorrow, can we do friday?" The "ill let you know" is really her way of either saying "im not interested and hope you get the hint" o…
/r/seduction28/05/26 05:17 PM
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i agree. People act like being broke is something that was invented 5 years ago. People have always been broke. Im from a latino household, something my parents always said was "el que quiere , puede". Literal translation is "the perosn who wants to do it, can do it". But basically means, if you really want something, you will make it possible regardless of the difficulties of it. It's one thing to say "i really want to fuck as much giurls as possible" but what are you doing to change the outcom…
/r/seduction28/05/26 04:23 PM
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It depends. But for me i think the best way is to try to make it a memorable night for her. Ive had more success when i can get her to dance, or entertain her friends all night, etc. Than just talking to her for 10 minutes and getting her number. Because for women, they nejoy the moment. You talk to them for 10-20 minutes, it's fun, etc. and then go your seperate ways, even if you get the number the next day they go "he was really nice but it was just a fun drunken time". You almost become a sma…
/r/seduction28/05/26 03:45 PM
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Good and Hot, most likely. Thing is good girls are either, focused on themselves or someone has swept them up. Or men are so focused on the ones that are hot, heavy and fun that they ignore the good girl because they think it's too much work to get the good girl when they want something fun that they can get quickly. The good girl isnt going home with you from the club. She's probably the girl that isnt dressed trying to show cleavage. She's probably the pretty girl that's there for a fun time w…
/r/seduction28/05/26 03:15 PM
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Poor social skills This is the number 1 thing to focus on. Start going to events planned for people to meet and get comfortable talking to new people. Practice on men too. I ahve found people with poor social skills, struggle to talk to a man they just met. So when i was practicing this i went to every event for people to meet. Meetup app, Jigsaw dating events, etc. You gotta ease into it, dont just start cold turkey and think youll be amazing at it. It might take months for you to fully get goo…
/r/seduction28/05/26 01:32 PM
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You gotta be upfront or even if your not dont emotionally manipulate them by saying the right words and making it seem lime they are your only. Even if you dont have exclusive chat there’s a lot of ways to let the other person think it even if it’s not true
/r/seduction28/05/26 01:28 AM
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exactly i was the same. If a woman gave me a bit opf attention id stick to her like glue. I remember spending 3 hours with a girl one time because she was giving me attention. Looking back at it, i shoudl've walked away after like 10 minutes. I could see that she wasnt that into me but i thought "better this than nothing".
/r/seduction27/05/26 11:47 PM
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i agree. The fact that it already got so many likes is worrying. I talk to women at all times, i have yet to meet one whose reporting or calling the cops on anyone. Ive seen dudes who are legit creeps, and even they dont get shit called on them. I try to help in these pages but i just find how there's a large amount of men who generally believe this type of stuff. Most women arent even in dating apps. It's 2x more men than women. Imagine being at a party with 100 men and 50 women and they tell p…
/r/seduction27/05/26 11:19 PM
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i think marriage stats is not a great stat to look at. Like the story i mentioned there was a lot of loveless marriages. A lot of cheating. Plus the reason marriage percentages were high in the 20th centruy as opposed to now is that people were less likely to leave their hometown or area. So really your options werent much past high school. There wasnt much to live up to other than work and marriage. People got married younger because there wasnt much else to do and all their friends were gettin…
/r/seduction27/05/26 10:48 PM
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yeah and that's basically where i was goign with my last paragraph. The first few paragraphs are going agains this idea that "dating is hard today" like it wasnt hard 20 years ago. Their having less sex partly i think for the reasons in my last paragraph. they arent socializing as much outside of the house and relying too much for online to give it to them. Then when they dont understand why, they rely on people looking for views who tell them it's not their fault in a way.
/r/seduction27/05/26 10:44 PM
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Kind of. Im an overthinker and when i stopped struggling was when i realized, im a funny guy just go with my gut. Because id avoid saying something to upset a woman i liked. Making that joke that was actually funny but im not sure what her style of comedy is so i was too afriad it would be taken the wrong way. When i stopped overthinking and went with my guy, i was surprised that women actually loved my jokes (or most did) and the ones who didnt that was ok too. I know i meant no harm or disresp…
/r/seduction27/05/26 10:16 PM
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Dating was hard 10 years ago, 20 years, ago even 100 years ago, it was always hard. It just adapts to the times. The thing is, you arent hearing the shitty dating stories from older generations, they talk about the successes more than the failures. Like my GF works with older people and she came home one day and said how marriage means nothign today because she speaks with her older patients who have been married for 50+ years and asks them what the key to marriage is and they tell her the basic…
/r/seduction27/05/26 10:10 PM
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For number 3 i feel that so hard. Im a super careful guy and even with friends i will ask "chili's on jackson street? right" and get confirmation. You dont know how many people ive known that just assume and even when i say "hey get confirmation" are like "it's clearly that one" and then show up to the wrong one. Especially a lot of these businesses have similar names or dont do a good job of having the correct info online or on the maps app.
/r/seduction27/05/26 09:32 PM
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It's good youa re asking this now. Here's what i wished i knew in college going in and if i could do it again her'es what id do: - College friendships are transactional (even IRL friendships are too). Everyone wants an experience and theyll stay close to you if thye feel you can give them that experience. For most it's parties, booze, and a good time. So be the guy that gets people together. At class, just start talking to people before professor gets there. If you enjoy the conversation get the…
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:42 PM
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Good for you dude. That's the way to go. I think something you said in your 4th paragraph should resonent the most. Becuase there you talk about enjoying the moment more. ENjoying the conversation, not so much the pull. And for me (im also someone who had to work on this), that's the best way to pull and not get disappointed when you dont. When you start enjoying the moment and conversation more than the result, you become more genuine, women put there guards down when tehy see that you dont car…
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:19 PM
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sometimes you did nothing wrong and the other person just isnt feeling it. Just keep moving and hopefully someone you matches you better will come along.
/r/seduction27/05/26 06:03 PM
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yeah it's really dependent on girl, your confidence, etc. You said it yourself you want to learn this game. Sometimes it's just confidence and vibe and the right moment. Sometimes it's whether the girl is feeling you or not.
/r/seduction27/05/26 03:12 PM
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it's not a big deal tbh. But for me when i was 23, at most id date a college junior or senior. The thing is there's a lot of growth that happens from 18 to 22. An 18-19 year old is an adult but they still have a child mindset. They havent adulted enough to have the mind of an adult. That's why a lot of these 18-19 year olds get used by these grown men. Because they think their grown but these older men have years of tricks in the game that these girls havent even seen. It's why it's almost seen …
/r/seduction27/05/26 03:11 PM
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Yes it was that exactly. Didnt realize people would be so curious about it lol.
/r/seduction27/05/26 02:10 AM
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You are too much in your head. Happened to me once. Had multiple times in a few weeks where that happened, then i went to the doctor to get my levels checked. I was better than average. She sent me to a urologist and i explained my situation. Urologist said its' mental ED. he gave mee 2 options, wait it out or take the pill. I took the pill. It was a bit embarrassing but tbh, i told no one. You have to take it once a day (or every two days) and he told me once my confidecnce was back i had to we…
/r/seduction26/05/26 10:38 PM
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i get the whole wingman thing, it's very "every man for himself' you gotta do it with a trustworthy dude who wont cock block. ive had friends try to cock block at times and get in on a girl. Meetups is good, but the one downside is many men who dont ahve female interactions tend to go to these things. You dont know how many times ive gone just to make friends and dudes really try to follow a girl around. It causes women to not want to go to these meetups.
/r/seduction26/05/26 09:53 PM
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really that's the way to approach. Get them social muscles going. I had a friend who went solo to bars, and most of the time he never got laid bu this this was, he was trying to flex them social muscles. He'd talk to dudes for an hour or two to get some friends, and then start talking to women.
/r/seduction26/05/26 09:01 PM
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go for it, but just from that comment i can tell that you are trying too hard and it will show. The same tricks that worked in college wont work in the real world. You are too focused on result and not on the journey of just having fun. I promise you when you arent looking for it, it will come. You already have the foundation, it's now chaning the approiach. Girls put their walls up when they see a giuy who clearly only wants to talk to them to fuck them. If you can be the guy that can be social…
/r/seduction26/05/26 07:51 PM
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if you did well in college than i think you can do find post-college. But it's about readjusting your view now. Problem is now the dating pool is wide open. No 30 year old man is oging to go to college to get college girls that looks creepy. So you really didnt have that much competition. But now your competition are dudes that have 7+ years in the game that want to fuck the girls your age. The girls you age see them as mature, where you are still on the come up and maybe still have some f-boy v…
/r/seduction26/05/26 07:20 PM
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depedning on where it is in the night, you gotta lead while making it clear that it's her choice to say no and you are ok if she does. You will find someone else to have fun with. So if it's still middle of the party, once you get the IG, get her a drink, song comes on, grab her and dance, etc. Lead, but also read body language. Dont just sit there thinking "what else should i say?" show her you are fun. Start physical touch throuhgouyt the night, if she seems reluctant, stop. If she seems open …
/r/seduction26/05/26 04:24 PM
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talk to everyone, men and women. The fact youve been chatted up means you have good foundation. But it's about getting comfortable talking to new people. And women love social butterflies, if they see you talking to everyone, guy or girl and being super social and fun they will want to be around that. THey will feel like they hav eto earn your attention. Because subconsciously it's like "OMG he's so social and he chose to talk to me, if im not interesting enough he'll leave andill miss my chance…
/r/seduction26/05/26 03:47 PM
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your making excuses, ive been there. Again, stop thinking about your lack of experience. Everyone was born with lack of experience. Wehter you learned it at 15 or at 25 makes no difference and i promise you there's just as much women with that lack of experience. I didnt really start to get expereince with this stuff until i was like 25, and i still managed to learn. Was it a learning curve and period, of course. It might take months to get used to it, but the more you are in your head about it,…
/r/seduction26/05/26 03:42 PM
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I had a GF who had the VeDO crazzy bunny vibrator. Basically looks like a bunny silhouette and the ears vibrate. She absolutely loved that. you can get it on amazon. Just note, it's a small company and the batteries arent great on it. Her original one broke after a year and i got her a new one, that broke after 2-3 months, luckily it was still under warranty so they sent me a new one and that one lasted a few years of us dating.
/r/seduction26/05/26 03:39 PM
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for me, practice makes perfect but you can easily perfect bad habits so make sure to learn good habits and practice those. It's ok to make mistakes just dont let it stop you from trying. And no, talking to a girl for 2 minutes and leaving is not trying. Start small, so if you go out make a goal to talk to 1 girl for 10 minutes, then 2nd night talk to 3 girls, then 3rd night, dance with a girl, then 4th night kiss someone, etc. Dont be afraid to exceed the goal, so if first night the goal is 1 gi…
/r/seduction26/05/26 03:02 PM
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ok first off. Raising libido will just make you more horny, it wont make you better at flirting. Second, you are too in your head. For me i had to learn by literallygoing out and tlaking to people in general. Men and women i did not know. It's scary talking to someone new you dont know. I realized that a big reason i sucked at talking to women was because i sucked at talking to someone new. I was a shell of myself. I was like you, at parties i stuck to my friends. Never branched out. If i did it…
/r/seduction26/05/26 02:31 AM
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id say get out of your own head. I didnt really date till my mid 20s, and felt the same as you. Truth is, if you didnt date in HS, it has almost nothing to do it with it other than you feeling like a loser for not dating in HS and you letting that define you. It's good to self-reflect, but in the end of the day you gotta work on your social skills. Stop looking at talking to women like it's flirting. Look at it more like "im meeting someone new and interesting and i dont care if i ever see her a…
/r/seduction26/05/26 02:23 AM
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First off, that anxiety thing is real. Happens to most of us guys. I lost my virginity later than i would've liked and was in my head so much it took me a while to get comfortable with it. When i was around 26, i was going through some self doubt (post-covid and it had been some time since i had even been with a woman) and when i finally got 1 in bed i just couldnt get it up. I had put so much pressure in mysel fto get do it, i tried to make somethign happen. Tbh, id say go get a pill. Get a doc…
/r/seduction26/05/26 02:18 AM
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Your 20. College is about learning and part of tha learning is learning how to talk to strangers. You said it, your handsome, got a good foundation but youve only ever hooked up with friends of friens. Most likely because you were in your element around your friends. Now you need to practice going out and getting comfortable with the idea of meeting strangers, men and women. Meeting someone new and having a good conversation. Good looks help, but in the end of the day it does nothing if uou dont…
/r/seduction26/05/26 12:40 AM
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honestly if you can get comfortable with it, it's probably easier to do it because there's no social pressure to stay with a group of people/ Ive had nights where people wanted to leave a bar or something and i just followed the goroup. But if you go out solo you just go where the wind takes you.
/r/seduction22/05/26 09:47 PM
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You are being seen as the nice guy because you are keeping your distance physically and emotinally. You are being agreeable in conversation and a negative reaction. WHich in turn you are basically putting them on a pedestal without realizing it. You are treating them like a glass vase. Instead treat them like a bro. With a guy friend, you hype them up, you shoot the shit with them, etc. I try to do similar with women. They got a nice outfit "damn girl i like that outfit. you got nice style". Fin…
/r/seduction22/05/26 09:04 PM
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it's really this. Like ive know some guys who are in their 40s and whether purposely or not they can give creepy vibes. Some it's the "i suck at flirting" type of old creepy guy but other's it's the "i know im a creep and will pretend that it's not a big deal" type of creep. One guy i know, he does decent iwth women his age but he watns to fucks a mid 20 year old so badly. Whenever he sees one, he has the need to talk to them but not in a "i know how to flirt" way. In a "i need to flirth with th…
/r/seduction22/05/26 08:07 PM
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makes sense. Something i find in some women, especially theones that had dudes on their ass in their 20s, is once they get "too old" or past college or even in their 30s, they hate that other women are gettin gthe look s they once got. Like i remember dating someone who was like 32 at the time. Her best friend was 27 at the time and she'd always talk shit about her friend. Her friend was clearly one of thsoe girls who was ditzy, played dumb with men, and was the damsel in distress type of girl. …
/r/seduction22/05/26 07:37 PM
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yeah that's true. I think it's because women like that are surprised when a guy isnt on their ass like other men. SO it's almost like a way to prove to themselves that they cang et any men to kiss their ass.
/r/seduction22/05/26 07:31 PM
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honestly i agree for the most part. I see that even with dudes who women think are 10s. Like one example i remember was in love island (guilty pleasure show shoot me). There was a dude who was like 6'8" built like a running back and in the first episode the girls get to decide who they wanna match up with. WHen this dude showed up all the woman literally walked away from the men they were talking to (it was first episode so no-one was set up yet) and went running to him. ALl the dudes were legit…
/r/seduction22/05/26 07:15 PM
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yeah im glad when i met this friend because it was around the time i had moved to a new city and was learning how to seduce and honestly seein ghow he moved helped me a lot. Like he didnt pull a lot but the fact that he never had a "bad night" made me realize the best way of moving. I def learned that i could just go out for a fun time and no expectaiton.
/r/seduction22/05/26 06:18 PM
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yeah i agree with this. I think a problem guys have is they try to get ahead of a conversation. Like "how can i lead it to get her number?" instead of just nejoying the conversation. I have found women enjoy the moment more than men when we go out. So when a guy can start enjoying the moment women love that. When a guy goes out and enjoys dancing with someone, ovver the idea of tkaing them home. Enjoys talking to someone new over the idea of taking them home, etc. Their most genuine self comes o…
/r/seduction22/05/26 04:47 PM
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not really. But going with firends helps with confidence becuase if youg et rejected you arent alone and can go back to your friends. But i used to have this friend who was good at going out alone. But first off, he focused on just having fun. he'd go to the club, get in line talk to other men in line to get his social battery going. Try to befriend people in the line and just talk to as many people as he could. Then once he felt his social battery was high, he'd just go in and tlak to every per…
/r/seduction22/05/26 04:37 PM
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Guy here who struggled with similar. First it's nice you are acknowledging, that's an amazing first step. For me, ig et how you feel. But now it's time to change that. And you can. For me i did a bunch of networking events, and events that forced me to talk to people. Men and women. I didnt go in trying to get a friend or girlfriend i went in just trying to have a nice converations and if it went well i asked for their number (man or woman). It will take months to get used to that but better to …
/r/seduction22/05/26 04:06 PM
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I think you have a lack of understanding of how it really works. The "succesful" guys are guys that just socialize with everyone. If you look at their sucess rate it's like less than 5% of girls they talk to vs girls they get with. Looks help, but your social skills is what you should work on most importantly. no matter how good you look (unless your like a super model) it means nothign if you dont have the social skills to take it home. Not sure what men you are seeing and what super successful…
/r/seduction21/05/26 09:37 PM
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it's really this. i once lost a lot of weight but i did it for wrong reasons. I did it to get more attention from women. Guess what the attention didnt come because my confidence didnt change by that much. I gained a lot of that weight back and worked on my social skills when i got too tired of feeling sorry for myself. Then that's when i started seeing more women want to be around me. I saw more women want to be around me when i was 230 lbs at 5'8" then when i was 190 lbs (i have a bulky semi-m…
/r/seduction21/05/26 01:44 PM
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yeah exactly. That's why i always try to tell people to practice good habits. Mistakes are important to make but let's make sure you learn why it didnt work. But i agree. I learned options is a powerful tool. A dude that's feels he can talk to any girl and bed is the guy that doesnt care to walk away from a 10.
/r/seduction20/05/26 10:39 PM
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exactly the “I thought you were really pretty and had to come say hi” is horrible and youve basically have lost the battel at the start. It's important to aprroach and practice makes perfect but you can practice and perfect bad habits too. Like basketball, if i shot 3s underhand, i might get good at hitting underhanded 3s, but my ceiling is going to be low because that form is not correct. Plus women already know why we want to talk to them, so going in calling them beautiful already confirms ev…
/r/seduction20/05/26 10:26 PM
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for me it was doing it as much as possible until it i became less worried aobut it. When i saw i didnt die from a rejection it got easier and easier. Also i practiced just talking to people, man women, etc. Tlaking to people and not expecting anything else but a nice conversation. And if it went well id get their number (regardless of gender). That trainde my mind to go into every new person the same, im here for a fun conversation and to be myself. Plus it was nice boost when i saw that i wasnt…
/r/seduction20/05/26 10:09 PM
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yeah i get that. I saw one today and this post made me think of it, but i agree. Hell i was like that. I still see it when im out. I got a buddy who whenever we are out he's so bad and i try to help him but he's an older dude with no game so it's already hard for him. I was talking to a bartender once, just chilling hanging out and we tried getting in on it by being like "hey my name is joe, i just wanted to come and tell you how pretty you are" and i could tell the bartneder was like "WTF" and …
/r/seduction20/05/26 10:07 PM
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Lol, was this post made against a post today where a guy approached a girl reading a book and told her he approached her because she was pretty basically? But i agree. I see dudes immediately call women godesses from just looking at them. Liek bro, women hate when they are seen as sex objects and when guys approach just because they are pretty. I started doing better when i complemented everything but their looks. "I like that outfit where'd you get it?" "I like your hair, i wish my curls were a…
/r/seduction20/05/26 09:44 PM
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i agree with this. I like complementing outfits, or something unique they could be wearing. Because women spend an 1-2 hours getting ready, ask their friends 20 times if they look good but they dont believe it until a stranger says it. Ill be that stranger. Plus clothing is an extension of personality, so in a weird way by saying they have rad style you are saying "you guys seem like you have amazing personaility".
/r/seduction20/05/26 09:41 PM
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ehh this plan has a lot of flaws. Honestly id say dont expect much, because at the bar her friend could go to someone else. Her friend could get bored and now night ruined, etc. Id say this, focus on your girl, but also entertain the other one too. Dance, get them drinks, group dance, etc. Dont give any inclination on a 3-some throughout the night. Read their body language. Dont force the affection. But encourage it through your body language. Dancing on the floor, let the fried grind on you, et…
/r/seduction20/05/26 09:39 PM
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yeah like this could go very well for him or very bad i see almost no inbetween.
/r/seduction20/05/26 09:35 PM
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first off, good job approaching. The hardest part is to go up and say hi. Assuming conversation went exactly as you said, you did nothing wrong. Now let's use this as alearning experience. Few things i noticed, you said she had her walls up, all her answers were short, and you immediately tried getting the number when she gave you no indication she was into you. you arent a fool or ugly, you are a stranger and women arent going to go out on a date with a guy they dont even know is a serial kille…
/r/seduction20/05/26 05:23 PM
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I think it can be the same but not the way you described it. I think threesomes work best when both people want it and when it’s a random person. Not a friend. For MFF threesomes, the gf has to ok it. The gf has to be the one to encourage it for it to work in my opinion. I once asked my gf for a MFF threesome. We discussed it but she alo said she wanted a MFM threesome and tbh, i was not ok with the latter even if i was being a hypocrite. I could tell she was not ok with mff either but just want…
/r/seduction20/05/26 12:46 PM
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Ive seen some success, tbh like anything youll fail more than you succeed. That's just how it goes. THe guy you think pulls like crazy, is flirting with like 20 girls a night just to suceed once a month. Im also slightly overweight. I lost a ton of weight and still struggled, i gained it back due to low self-esteem and i decided to work on social skills. And me being overweight i did way better than when i was skinny. Yes being fit helps, but social skills is the #1 thing to get women.
/r/seduction19/05/26 09:57 PM
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The best way to approach woman in a group, is to approach the group. I think every man has done this, where we go to the hottest girl of the group (or the one we like the most) and make talk to her and ignore the rest. THat is the worst shit you can do in my opinion. Because you are putting all yoru eggs in 1 basket. If she rejects you or has a BF or something, you just told the whole room (and the rest of the group) that this is the hottest girl here and the rest arent even close. Nobody is try…
/r/seduction19/05/26 09:01 PM
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yeah, ive had that too and i had to learn how to properly flirt and socialize with women. I once went back on how i used to text women from years ago (i still have all my texts) and i wanted to barf. It was bad. Like women i just met i was making flirty texts off the bat. No wonder i got ghosted all those times.
/r/seduction19/05/26 07:42 PM
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dude i get what your saying. It's in vibe, women have their walls up because they assume every guys wants to fuck them. When a guy goes in with that intention they can see it off the bat, but when a guy goes in with "i dont care if i get your number, im gonna be my genuine self and shoot the shit wiht you" they love that. Like yesterday i was at my rec-league softball and there's an older guy on the team. We are checking out another team before our game and all these people mash even the women o…
/r/seduction19/05/26 07:35 PM
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i disagree. I wasnt a smelly homeless looking bum. When i said i dressed like a bum, i dressed comfortably (comfortable jeans, comfy shirt, etc). I did not distinguish everday clothes from going out clothes, i did not wear cologne etc. You missed my point. My point is that looks wont get you the girl, but they will keep the door open. I promise you the dudes that you are referring to, suck at talking to girls. Get nervous, talk to 1 for 2 minutes and are mad she didnt fuck them in the bathroom. …
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:31 PM
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i agree. Ive always said, in a shallow sense men go for looks women go for status. As we age we get less shallow on it but that also adapts as well to a lower level. Like i remember in HS, i went to a catholic HS that had clear social classes. I wasnt a loser, i was more in the middle but clearly i was not part of the cool kids group. There was a girl in the cool kids group who looking back at it, she liked me. I liked her too. But it was kind of clear that her friends saw me as aloser, and she …
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:22 PM
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It's exactly this. I dont know where guys get this idea that women are shallow on looks. THey are not. Do they enjoy the top male body as much as we enjoy the top female body? Of course they do. Im someone who ill say it, im average looking. But i also realzied i was not trying to look good. I would dress like a bum and then get mad girls didnt like me. It wasnt until i made efforts to stop looking like a bum, get a better haircut, dress better, actually get a haircut, etc. That girls gave me mo…
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:08 PM
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WHen i got my first official GF, i noticed this. I always thought it was a "girls go after taken men" trope. But then i realized, that the difference was me. I was now more comfortable because i was in a relationship. I knew i had no issue stalking to girls now so i could talk to them because i did not care about the result. I was just being me, not someone i hoped they liked. And honestly i was talking to some girls i would've killed to just say hi to years prior. And what's crazy, they loved b…
/r/seduction18/05/26 10:27 PM
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A friend of mines was good at going out solo. What he did was, he’d focus first on just havjng a good time, making friends, etc. So in line to the club he’d talk to men, try to get his social battery charged. Maybeeven make some friends. Talk about anything. Then inside the club, he’d shoot the shit with men (even if it’s same group from line). Then At some point he’d wingman fo them. Introduce them to some girls, etc. and basically now he had a group of guys he befriended so he didnt feel weird…
/r/seduction17/05/26 11:38 PM
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honestly i only read the title and the second i saw the word incel i knew that OP was already in the wrong mindset. I dont know why but whenever i see someone use the words "incel", "simp", "looksmaxxing" (i just learned that a few weeks ago lol) in their everyday language. It tells me this dude is in the wrong place mentally and doesnt even realize it.
/r/seduction14/05/26 01:08 PM
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I live in austin. Tbh texas aint really it. AUstin is the only one that's worth it. Dallas is too suburban and family oriented so nightlife isnt that crazy. Austin is good due to the amazing nightlife and the colleg enearby, but it's a tech city. Ratio here is pretty bad (id bet worse than bay area). You can pull due to the great nightlife but you also should expect to fight off some thirsty dudes who can't take a hint. Like dudes that will see yo uvibing with a girl and because she said hi to h…
/r/seduction13/05/26 10:49 PM
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i think this is a good position to be in, you are a social guy. But now there's a disconnect beteeen being social and then turning it into flirting. In a way you have to stop thinking about it like that. I wonder if you are being more brotherly/fatherly. Ive had that mistake too where im super social, making sure everyone is having fun but it can come off as fatherly in some ways (and no tin a good way). Like your the cool group dad whose talking to everyone and making sure they have fun. Nobody…
/r/seduction13/05/26 06:14 PM
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yeah i learned the hardway that some people just arent fit to be serious partners. First relationship was with someone who honestly she was really fun and we vibed so well together. We could even travel with eac hother. But she had a lot of shit deep inside her that she clearly did not want to address and would affect our realtionship. Couldnt take accountablity for shit. It was clear, i was the only one working on our relationship. She just ignored the problems like they werent a thing.
/r/seduction13/05/26 04:40 PM
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Hmm, few that id even consider a hail mary: - getting a table at a club and inviting girls over. - Talking a few girls and buying the whole group drinks off the bat. I normally try to avoid that unless i feel like im pretty much in and gettin gdrinks helps but in this scenario, but in this case i mean doing it off the bat after the first fun little interaction. Running the risk that they may take the drink and talk to someone else. - Going to the middle of the dance floor and just putting your h…
/r/seduction11/05/26 09:25 PM
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like others said, at this point just kiss her. SOmetimes it's as easy as knowing the vibe and going for it. But if you arent sure or are nervous, literally just ask. But not in a "can i kiss you?" type of way. IN a way that shows you are leading wiht an idea, but also you dont care if she says yes or no. So for me i like to say "so shoudl we get that first kiss out the way?" It shows that im tackling a stressful situation head on, and if she wants to do it she'll say yes. And if she doesnt she w…
/r/seduction11/05/26 05:20 PM
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Few tips: - stop using Dating apps as your #1 way of meeting women. Go out, i think once you get past some initial nerves youll find it's way more fun even when you get rejected and gives you a bigger confidence boost. The apps are not a good representation of what it's like out there. WOmen are more selective in apps and there are 2x as many men in the apps as women. Think about it like this, if you went to a party and there was 100 men and 50 women what would happen is, the men would see how m…
/r/seduction11/05/26 04:40 PM
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Yeah im not 100% sure what he means but im interpreting as, dont try to be a nice to a "bad" girl. Dont try to treat her like a wife. The good girl deserves wife status but the bad girl is just going to be stressful for you.
/r/seduction11/05/26 03:48 PM
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keep at it. Tbh i started at 27, it was fucking hard. And for me i realized approaching was the easy part. It's basically what you said, guiding the covnersation in a way that is genuine. For me i just had to stop thinking aobut the result and where i was hoping it would go and just do. SO when i went out, my main priority was my own enjoyment and hope that someone would see that and want to be around me. And for me it wasnt so much about saying the words "you are pretty/beautiful/etc", it was f…
/r/seduction11/05/26 02:50 PM
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look you dont need it in my opinion, if a girl likes you enough she'll give you her number. Im just saying it helps to have one because of the reason why you dont want one.
/r/seduction07/05/26 09:40 PM
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it's not a red flag, but in my opinion it helps to have one. Does it mean you can't get a girl with out one? Of course not. If you have a legit reason like "oh im focusing my lfie outside of IG, realzied i would just spend days looking at reels and needed some time off". Cool. But outside of that, some women feel safer if they just give you the IG. You might not. get the number but you might get the IG, it feels less personal almost. Then you send her cute littel reels and stuff like that.
/r/seduction07/05/26 09:33 PM
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for me part of approaching is also being smart about it. Is educated risks. Normally id just try to find some type of common ground in any conversation. With headphones on it's tough because she's trapped in her own mind and then gets caught off guard, so mayb ethat was the best to not approach. But in general i like comeplementing outfit or somethign she's wearing. Maybe she's got an anime picture on her shir or something that i can relate to. So ill start off like "hey i like your shirt are yo…
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:45 PM
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Im american born carribbean man. My uncles who are from the motherland would always tell me to learn to dance. My dad was never a dancer so i never really had love for dancing or cared for it. And honestly i wished i liked it and wasnt so embarrassed to dance. Because now i see the power in it. Especially for latinos, whose dances are very 1-on-1, women love a man who can dance.
/r/seduction07/05/26 04:33 PM
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if you have time in the day (especially the weekend), walk down a big casino and see if there are people giving free tickets to pool parties. I once was walking inside MGM casino and a guy told me that if i go to the pool party at 11 am i can get iin for free with his ticket. You just gotta be ok chilling in a basically empty pool for a few hours and the party gets bumping at around 1pm and crazy around 2-3. Talk to people, check out what's going on. Also go to the casino clubs. MGM's got a good…
/r/seduction07/05/26 02:44 PM
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exactly. From my experience, they want to feel safe but they also want to have fun. They keep the door open but theyll almost never really initiate that. It's more of a "if the guy leads it there i wont say no". Most of my female friends have said, when they were single they were open to the idea of going home wiht someone, but they were there for fun and dancing first. If they got that they were ok going home, but if the man was charming them, had fun iwth them all night and made the right sugg…
/r/seduction07/05/26 01:23 PM
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In my experience, a woman will decide she wont fuck you if the vibe is off or based off your appearance, That's basically what i said here.
/r/seduction07/05/26 01:20 PM
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It happens, it's a her thing not a you thing. Sex could've been super enjoyable but maybe she realized that the relationship between you two would mostly be sex so she's restricting herself. Maybe she needs some time to think. Who knows? Best youy can do is look at what she's doing and do the best decision for you which is move on. If she texts saying "hey my bad i needed time XYZ" and you want to gie her another cahnce than nothing wrong with that either.
/r/seduction07/05/26 12:24 AM
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guy here. In my experience, a woman will decide she wont fuck you if the vibe is off or based off youir appearance, but she'll keep the door open if you seem enjoyable. Does that mean she will def fuck you? of course not. WOmen get flirted on by so many guys even when they dont realize it that their mindset is literally that they ahve options. She can change her mind just as quickly as she makes it. It's about keepiun gthat interest.
/r/seduction06/05/26 04:30 PM
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tbh, if it's not in your, it's just not. Being a f-boy requires a huge level of not giving two shits about the other person. Your out for your own satisfaction in a way. But you can take characteristics of a f-boy and use it to yoru advantage. Basically one of the best advice ive heard for people wnating to be more like f-boys is to take characteristics of both the nice guy and the f-boy. Both guys have character traits that can help you get laid. The thing is if you delve too closely to the nic…
/r/seduction06/05/26 01:02 PM
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For 1, you misunderstand what “entertaining” means. It’s not saying you have ti say no -stop iokes. Treat them lime you would your bros. Just have fun for youreelf and let them be part of that fun. When you go oht with the boys, do you just stay and do nothing but stay quiet? Or do you live it up with the boys? For 2, the point is to not care if that girl likes you in a way. Sure youd love to get with her and just her. But if you are making it obvious the odds go down. She’s there with her frien…
/r/seduction06/05/26 04:13 AM
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Like the other commenter said you gott change your mindset. I used to have this mindset, that i was ugly, wasnt blessed with the looks, etc. Made every excuse, you know what i realized when i stopped making the excuses. Women dont care about being approached unless they are at a club and eye you from across the room. I have found that most men have a good foundation they just dont try to look good. If i showed you a pic of me at 21 and me at 27 youd think it was 2 completely different people. Be…
/r/seduction06/05/26 12:20 AM
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yeah, the fact you only met twice and you already are saying she fits all your boxes. Remember this is the nicest you will ever see her becuase she's tyring to make an impression. I know guys who fell for oneitis and swore after 2-3 times they met up and had sex that this girl fit every box and more, once shit go tmore serious, the conversation was now how she was a manipulator, liar, fit 0 boxes, etc. Not saying that's this girl, but for you to be this certain this early tells me youre brain is…
/r/seduction05/05/26 07:24 PM
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I think it's partly due to you finally having a succesful outing and your brain is thinking "OMG it took me so much effort to get this 1 girl, if i dump her it could take months to find somethign else". Honestly my advice (this happened to me and i wish i did this sooner) is a few things you can try out: - keep yourself distnat from her. If you are hanging out just keep it to the sex and taht's it. Dont stay too long, dont plan cute dates, keep covnersation at surface level, etc. Dont go out of …
/r/seduction05/05/26 07:14 PM
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exactly. For me i like treating women like bros. Ill hype you up, ill make it clear that im here for fun first and getting your number second (not by words but by action) and if i dont get the number it doesnt make or break my night. Almost like im saying to myself "they need to prove to me that they are worth me asking them for their number" and instead of thinking "i need to prove myself to them". It's a bit cokcy but it's ok to be a little cocky just dont be so cocky you think your shit dont …
/r/seduction04/05/26 09:02 PM
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First off, my advice for friend groups is, entertain the group. Avoid going straight to the one girl and making it clear you are into her. Why? Because if she has a BF or just isnt interested you just told the whole room this is the girl you want and every other girl is 2nd to her. No one is trying to be 2nd. So your night is pretty much over. So for me (depends on situation) i just try to talk to the whole group. If i can get in with them, now im more likely to stay in the group. Because if 1 g…
/r/seduction04/05/26 02:22 PM
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Exactly this, i agree 100%. And i will add because this was my problem too, that when flirting it shouldnt feel like your doing work or forcing the conversation to anumber. Once you start doing that you are forcing the conversation and that takes more mental energy. But also stop trying to have deep-level conversations with someone you just met. Keep it surface level and fun. That was my problem i was trying to show them how i was an intellectual who through of the world differently and agreed w…
/r/seduction01/05/26 09:29 PM
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it's a bit tough but he should casually hype you up when he's talking to her and find common ground so he can be like "honestly my friend OP like sthe same type of music, ill introduce him to you at the get together. he's got a lot of songs of similar genre and he loves when new people who like that genre join the group".
/r/seduction01/05/26 07:47 PM
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my method with groups of women is entertain the group. Do not make it obvious which one you like more than the others. Because if you do, it might work but if she says no you just told the hwole room that's the girl you want. Entertaining the group, keeps you there longer, and if you do succeed (since it's still a hard task) at one point one girl will like you more than the rest and it wil show.
/r/seduction29/04/26 10:16 PM
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if i can ask, how are you with men you just met? Like im not talking your boy brought them. I mean you are by yourself at a venue with nobody you know and you see a group of guys there. Are you social with them or are you a bit weirded out? I dont know you but i had similar issues. I could talk to people just fine but not women. Then i realized that i couldnt really talk to men i just met either. I just wasnt good socially unless i had people i was already comfortable with around me as a safety …
/r/seduction29/04/26 09:55 PM
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two words of advice. Run away. You sem to be emotionally attached to her. She is cheatin gon her BF with you and probably others. She's playing you too. She likes the attention and once it got too far she pushed back. I call this the push-pull method. Some people will tell you what you want to hear and the second you get to close, they push back. She pulled you in with the flirting, the jokes, the kissing even, etc. Then when there was nothing else to do but actually fuck, she pushed back. Now y…
/r/seduction29/04/26 08:02 PM
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honestly i see your point. Like if youre friendzoned, dont be the best friend in my opinion. The guy you mentioned that is a friend who cries on your shoulder. I did that and it didnt work much for me (though i did end up dating one girl). Even with the one girl i dated it was just a lot of stress. Be the casual friend who goes out for fun and at a party make small moves. It's ok to be regular friends, and a bit dependable but my problem was id go out of my way. I had a busy day, she asked for a…
/r/seduction29/04/26 02:02 PM
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Tbh, this is normal. You will never fully know as each woman is different, same way as each man is different. But understand women and men see "night game" differently. Women enjoy the moment, men enjoy the result. Women go to bars for fun, enjoyment, to be with their friends. Men go to get laid. Some women (not all) like the attention. Part of the fun for them is flriting with a new guy, dancing, kissing even, etc. Ive kissed girls at a bar and then next day i text and it's crickets. Something …
/r/seduction27/04/26 07:57 PM
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i watched it recently after not having watched it since high school and now knowing things i didnt know in high school. There's some things that are exageratted but remove exageration and i feel like a lot of it is somewhat accurate. From what i remember Gosling's character basically says to carrel's character: - Take more accounatiblity: Gosling tells carrell (im using actor's names) that he should take blame for his marriage failing. yes his wife cheated but there was something carrell did whe…
/r/seduction27/04/26 07:35 PM
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Hoenstly this is it. When i lived with my parents id used to make i ta joke like. "yeah i still live with my parents. Excuse me, let me rephrase that, they live with me". Of course they know what i mean but it's a way to make it funny like im the one doing my parents a favor. Too many guys trying to get laid that same night within 5 minutes of meeting someone. Get her intereted first and then adjust to how the night's going. And if you gotta get the number to meetup another time to do it, that's…
/r/seduction27/04/26 04:40 PM
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Honestly this is so true and i never thought about it like that. I was someone who struggled, id never say i was an attractive guy back then but it was almost like if i talked to girls and got rejected, it was confiriming that i wasnt attractive. I saw guys that i thought "no way he's more attractive than me" and it wasnt that he was he was just trying more than i was. I think gradual exposure is the best way to do it, it's how i handled it. Will there be weeks, months of constant rejcetion and …
/r/seduction27/04/26 03:11 PM
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I dont think that really happens, you can't go from one side of the spectrum to the complete opposite side of the spectrum. But you can improve where you do see success over. Understand this, women will never "crave you" that's just not in their nature. Unless you have physical attributes (some which you can change but others you just can't) women won't crave you. You can't go from nerdy ncie guy, to guy who doesnt give a flying fuck easily. You either are or you arent. I was the nerdy ncie guy …
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:33 PM
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i know it's an exageration but that's so true lol. Literally have seen post like "i lost wieght, got a six pack and girls arent kissing my feet why is that?" and i usually try to reply like "bro girls will never kiss your feet, they have options you dont". All my life i heard that men are shallow on looks and women not so much and for some reason there's this idea in these subreddits like women are more shallow than men when it comes to looks. If you look like a supermodel, yes women will run to…
/r/seduction27/04/26 01:54 PM
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In short, it's really this. Honestly even though id recommend hitting the gym, it's not even that necessary if you have the other 3. Like i once lost a ton of weight but i didnt learn how to talk to people or dress yet and i did terribly. Gained some of that weight back and finally decided to learn how to dress and talk and did better than when iw as 30 lbs lighter. But to emphasize, it's about practicing social skills, talk to men women, etc. Just go up and say hi and see if a conversation come…
/r/seduction27/04/26 01:52 PM
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It’s really this. I had a cousin like this. He just figured it out in middle school and was just naturally charming. Some men figure this out in middle school and high school, others dont fogure it out until well after college. But my cousin works on hislooks, he never learned game because he didnt have to. He realized he could work on his looks, body, etc and be attractive to women. I was out with him one time and he’s on his phone st a club. He shows us it, a girl he worked with was across the…
/r/seduction25/04/26 06:32 PM
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I think it depends. Im someone who struggled in my early 20s. Got decent at it by working on myself. I think it can be “easy”. I do think looks are a factor for how eas it can be. Ive been around good looking men who have no game but seem to have girls fall for them. One of my friends was like this in HS. Super humble, a bit nerdy, etc. wasnt like he was rippd or anything, but he had some of the bddest girls in HS wanting to fuck him. Like if he had game he wouldve killed. One of the most curvy …
/r/seduction25/04/26 04:59 PM
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Yeah, i kind of agree with this. You still look the part, you arent that much older than the rest tbh. You still know some if not most of the college students. most graduate at 22, so i would feel like you got about 2 more years before you become the weird old guy.
/r/seduction21/04/26 03:25 PM
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I can see that, those girls i feel like are more comfortable in private.
/r/seduction21/04/26 01:52 PM
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The reason you are going blank is for a few reasons: - you care too much about the result and are trying to get the result you want so you are trying to force the conversation there. It’s not genuine and people can sense when you are not genuine or you have an ulterior motive. you arent exending the current conversation. If you get into an i teresting conversation you just let it end, you dont extend it to the next conversation. For example, if you like fast 5 but she likes fast 6, instead of go…
/r/seduction21/04/26 01:51 PM
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Just going based off what you said, but dates shouldnt just be nice conversation. She has friends for that, yes it's important to have good conversation but the point of a date is to say "can we be good romantic partners?" If you arent creating physical contact, trying to get it there, then your just a friend who met up for coffee or dinner. Of course be respectful, any point of pushback give her the space she wants. It's about slowly creating physical contact. Then at date's end try to get a ki…
/r/seduction16/04/26 06:52 PM
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as someone who struggled with this, i will say it takes a lot of time to change but you can do it. You have it in you, you just dont display it probably when people are around. For me i would practice by meeting new people, men and women. Id go up to 1 person and just try to find common ground. Everyone has that 1 thing that if it got brought up you can talka bout for hours. Id try to find that for me. Im a sports guy, i like travel, etc. So id tyr to find that common ground. Id go to events des…
/r/seduction16/04/26 02:02 PM
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i get what your saying. My point is, i jsut didnt have the confidence to have those positive reactions. Id be overthinking so much that even when i was doing well, i avoided being that risky. I dont think id make it as far to even say that 5 years ago. I think id just hit them with the "im with them" line and not try to continue the conversation. Or i just wouldnt have said anything.
/r/seduction15/04/26 08:16 PM
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no worries. It's situation based. Girl at a bar, your just having fun. They want a fun night so i gave them one and ill be honest most of the time i didnt go home with them but most of the time i got a number and we hungout again. It's about growing that comfort. Again start iwth physical contact, it creates that comfort with them. But dont do it off the bat, get them to laugh and like you. Spend 2-3 hours shwoing them some fun, they wont fuck you off of a few minutes. In the friend situation, i…
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:50 PM
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well that's a bit different. Ive hooked up with friends too, but that's beacuse we were legit friends, found each other attractive and at a certain point we were like "why not?". Sometimes attraction grows with friends too. But those friendships didnt start off that way, it probably was you guys were around each other enough and doing stuff enough and then one day they just fucked. I promise you older you get this wont be as easy to do. You are 21, so you are talking about people that were likel…
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:15 PM
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You are not their friend, stop trying to be their friend. Being friendly and being a friend are two seperate things. That's why you are failing, you are trying to be their friend adn then go in for the kill, that will never work and seems fake. Being frinedly means, take interests in what they are saying, be funny, etc. Beinga. friend means letting them vent to you, trying to have deep conversations off the bat, etc. Dont be a friend, be friendly. In the end of the day it's exposure therapy, you…
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:57 PM
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like I would talk to them very seriously like if there’s shit going on in their lives and actually genuinely talk to them and give advice and let them vent to me and just try to be somebody to lean on but at the same time, we will tease each other really hard and laugh about it and sometimes we even say sexual shit to each other like double edged comments or innuendo Most of that is not sexual it's brotherly. WHen i say take interest in their shit, im talking about more surface level shit. Like …
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:28 PM
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Like I’m really good friends with a lot of women and also I talked to them just like the guys. Becareful with that line because it also depends on how you do it. Like is there active teasing or is it just brotherly? Like do you think they can see you as someone who can have sex? Becuause i had female friends at that age too and honestly i think most would've said "i can't picture broad-cranberry having sex". Because i just wasnt forward with it, i tried to be brotherly not someone who can be fun…
/r/seduction15/04/26 04:30 PM
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The best mindset is to go out for your own fun. Goal of th enight is to have fun. If having fun is talking to a bunch of men who are talking about your favorite video game, then you accomplished it. Because when women see that you are there for yrouself more they may put their walls down more often. But also set mini-goals when it comes to women. Dont focus on how your friend is succeeding. Mini-goals can be like "talk to 1 woman tonight" then up it to "talk to 3 women tonight" then next one col…
/r/seduction15/04/26 04:19 PM
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honestly ill put it like this, most 21 year olds are inexperienced. Your friends that are getting laid dont know much of what theyre talking about they are just swinging at everyone and at some point it's going to click. When i was 21 i was pretty inexperienced, getting laid the least of my friends. They acted like they were the shit, looking back they didnt know shit they just swung at more pitches than i did and at some point your going to get a homerun. I was more careful with my swings and t…
/r/seduction15/04/26 03:46 PM
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for me this just sounds like he's gotten good at knowing when to approach. Im sure he didnt start that way. But also for me approaching could be as minimal as you saying hi to a woman you pass by and she keeps walking. THat to me is an approach. Or even if you go to the middle of the dance floor, try to dance next to someone and she just walks away. Again that's an apporach. So you might be hearing more about the successes or the times he actually gets conversation with someone, than times where…
/r/seduction15/04/26 03:00 PM
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Yeah honestly, and id say at 5% im being a bit generous. There’s a scene i love to quote from HIMYM where barney is celebrating 20 lays. Marshall basically tells barney he sucks at pick up because when he does out the math on how kay women barney sleeps with vs the ones he flirts with, his success rate is like 1.2%. Took me a long time to understand that. It’s not until i went into flirting more as a way to have a conversation that i started to do better.
/r/seduction15/04/26 12:58 PM
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I know. Sadly may men think like this. Hell i was one of those men years ago. Would go 0-10 in a month and think i just wasnt good enough. It wast until i upped the amount of girls i talked to that i started seeing traction.
/r/seduction15/04/26 12:55 PM
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first, stop using text messages (apps or texts) as your regular way to get with girls. It can be interpreted however they want. Keep it short and simple, and maybe funny, but you gotta go out and meet women and make that conenction in person, then you wont have to try hard in textts. Also 8 is nothing. If yo utalked to 8 girls in person at a bar, youd be unphazed. You might feel more confident because you got the courage to do that. Think about it, guys who succeed have a success rate of like 5%…
/r/seduction14/04/26 11:11 PM
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really this, as men we can't read women's mind so if we say somethign but she seems short and not responsive, we just know it's best to walk away.
/r/seduction14/04/26 10:47 PM
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Just based off the question, change your mindset. Dont see it as "winning them over" see it as you being just as much of a prize as they are, they should also try to win you over. Dont see it as a way to get laid, see it as a way to meet someone new. In just that 1 sentence i can tell you are more worried about the result of the conversation than just going through the process. I watch a lot of baseball, if you do everythign perfect in baseball you succeed 3 out of 10 times. Less than half. It's…
/r/seduction13/04/26 10:56 PM
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THere's no better teacher than going out and actually trying and failing. You can't find the right girl, you just gotta understand you might hit some bad fish before you find the girl. Just dont throw yourself to the first girl you think feels right, becuase when that honeymoon phase goes away you realize it was a mistake. So dont get tranced by the honeymoon phase. Take it day by day and dont be afriad to walk away over a red flag.
/r/seduction13/04/26 09:33 PM
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it would be easier to go to casual drinking bars, not the clubby type. Not sure what age you are thinking. But im assuming mid 30s, early 40s. Go to the bars where they might have some music but people arent jumping like crazy in the middle. And just talk to them. Just note they will see you like a baby, not take you seriously, etc. Any move you do theyve seen it 1000 times whne they were your age. So really it's about shooting your shot.
/r/seduction13/04/26 09:02 PM
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Look, word of advice, careful following these online dating coaches. Some have good advice, some have bad advice. The thing is they are all competing with each other, all trying to come up with a new way of saying the same thigns and sometimes when you run out, you have to try and be unique with what your saying. So it's easier to tell guys that "the game has changed" or somethign like that when really it hasnt changed. The same issues guys are bitching about today, they did 20 years ago and wil…
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:26 PM
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First off there is no "simple and easy" way. The best way to do it, is to change your mindset when you are approaching. Right now you see it as flirting, so you are trying to get the number, trying to lead it to getting laid, or somethign from her. When you talk to someone with the sole purpose of "i want somethign from you" people can tell and your genuine self does not come out. So the idea is getting your genuine self out there. Best mindset is to just go in, enjoy the conversation and just l…
/r/seduction10/04/26 10:07 PM
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lol thanks, honestly i sound cool here but it's easier said than done especially when it's premeditated. SOmetimes a lot can go wrong. I get your plan, honestly i have found that most lines that work do sound lame, it's how you say it.
/r/seduction09/04/26 10:01 PM
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no, you can make it work, is a bit harder but you can definetley make it work. It's harder because for a hotel, nobody is going to pay a hotel if sex isnt happening unless it was a pre-determined thing like "oh i got a place because i live far from here". Then it could be a thing like "i got a hotel becuase i live far from here and they gave me a spot with an amazing view of the city". Something she may want to see.
/r/seduction09/04/26 08:17 PM
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i mean it's tough without knowin gthe exact situation but 5 second window, id say just make nice comments each time. "i like your outfit" and keep walking if it's only 5 seconds. Then the next time, "i like your shoes whered you get them" have her answer, and maybe respond with a personal thing like "yeah i like getting my shoes in the outlets but i feel like the outlets dont have nice shoes anymore." then keep walking. Then each time should be some type of interaction like that and maybe the 2n…
/r/seduction09/04/26 08:15 PM
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best way to cold approach is to first clear you rmind and focus on just having a fun conversation, not trying to lead it to something. Understand that you might strike out and even the best do but a lot of times it has little to do with you and more that woman's comfort level around strangers. UNderstand this, people in general are nervous to talk to strangers, it's drilled in our mind from a young age that strangers are dangerous and that never really goes away, especially for women. So for you…
/r/seduction09/04/26 07:47 PM
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Tbh, it sucks but it's part of the game. When i started to actually try after years of not trying and feeling sorry for myself. It took some time but then i was going through a stage where i was just kissing girls at bars every other weekend but not getting anything after that. After talking to a few female friends somethign i learned was this. The way women think of going out is really different than men. Like one time a female friend of mine was excited she got 2 numbers from guys, and she lit…
/r/seduction09/04/26 06:55 PM
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If you want the "fastest way" here's how to do it: - Understand that there is no fast way, once you take that apporach your odds diminish because you will be forcing conversations, forcing outcomes, and it's just going to come out not genuine and girls will see right through that. Girls already know we want to fuck them, they dont want a guy who the first vibe they get is "omg this guy wants to fuck me, im just a set of tits for him". - Understand that this can take time, and you are going to ha…
/r/seduction09/04/26 03:52 PM
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It is poissible, how do you do it, you change your mindset. Stop looking at it as flirting, as a way to get a number, etc. Start looking at it as a fun conversation with a new person. If it leads to a number then you get the number. Number isnt the goal, the number is the icing on the cake. The cake is just having a fun time with someone new. Then when you get "rejected" you wont see it as a rejection, youll see it as her loss almost and move on to another person.
/r/seduction08/04/26 12:42 AM
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exactly im the same. Awkward smile every pic i take. Get me one on one and i have all tehse interesting stories and can charm people. Im not single anymore but i remember my GF was like "you always charm all the girls whenever we go out" and i was kind of just shocked because i just am not trying to charm anyone just pleasent conversation. And im def not a guy who people turn their head for.
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:04 PM
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Really it's this, and ill add in person women get a better sense of your vibe. A woman will go out with a person who she thinks she vibes well with before going out iwth an "attractive" guy. Because for them they dont know if you are a serial killer, which is something they do worry about. Not if you are an actual serial killer but if you are a creep or aggressive. But if you meet in person, she can trust her guy with your vibe. In apps, all she can go off of is looks so it's almost like removin…
/r/seduction07/04/26 10:48 PM
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similar here, used to be able to pull good looking girls when i was single but on the apps i struggled mightily. Bartely got a like. I just realized im someone whose got really good vibes but I just wasnt really photogenic. Like i barely have any pics of myself and i hate the whole "posing" for thirst trap pics and shit like that. I liked to enjoy the moment but i get that apps are all about the pics.
/r/seduction07/04/26 10:43 PM
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you dont, you go up to her, have pleasent conversation and if it comes up, it comes up. Technically it's her job to stop all advances. Dont look at it as flirting, look at it as having a pleasent conversation. Because once you look at it as flirting you will just overthink things like you did with that girl. Every experience could be a learning experience. Let's say you went up to that girl, talked to her for 2-3 minutes and hten she goes "im just waiting for my BF", then you go "oh nice, well i…
/r/seduction06/04/26 03:40 PM
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Exactly this. I was someone who hated socializing, hated bar and clubs. When i was still single in my mid 20s, you know what i realized? If i wamted to date i needed to play the game under the rules of the game, not the rules i wanted. The game wasnt going ti chsnge it’s own rules to comfort me, i had to basvially learn how to enjoy conversation more, enjoy bars and clubs more, etc.
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:39 PM
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i see. hope it goes well for you but honestly word of advice, you dont need these coaches to help you get some game. I never had game growing up and in my ealry 20s and then one day i felt bad for myself and was tired of it. Decided to go out and try. Personally what helped me was to just talk to people, man women, etc. I noticed when i was talking to men i was actually social, but with women i was nervous and not as funny or witty as i could be. But that's beacuse with women i was hoping for a …
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:06 PM
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i see, yeah best you can do is just post his name, make sure he gets negative feedback. I just googled his name on youtube. Not to make you feel worse, but yeah i wouldnt have trusted this guy. Barely pops up on my main page even when i write his name. I went to his page and he just seems like he's got scammer energy, like he knows how to sweet talk people into believing he's a good guy. Im willuing to bet he put the moves on you too. Id post in his videos what you said here, post everywhere you…
/r/seduction03/04/26 01:53 PM
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Im sorry dude but you got scammed. There’s probably no program tbh and if there is he probably isnt going to be there. You can call the cops and report it but not sure how much theyll be able to do. Also for future reference, most dating/life coaches will offer a free consultation, dont pay anything unless you actually talk to them through phone. Never whatsapp. I have whatsapp because ei have a lot of relatives internationally. But i never use itfor non relstives especially in the US it’s easy …
/r/seduction03/04/26 01:33 PM
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Nice, Few tips: it’s ok to initite physical contact and see where it goes. It’s about creating comfort dont be the super respectful guy because at times it could come off brotherly and friendly. The key is dont be afraid of pushback just be respectful if it happens. Dont go too big too early but dont wait for the perfect moment. start with a high 5 or some type of hand holding. Then slowly increase it. If she seems to like it continue if she oulls back then stop. remember you are as much of a pr…
/r/seduction01/04/26 10:55 PM
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First off you aret hinking about this too much. Sometimes it's best to just live in the moment. You said that you didnt get with that girl because you didnt have your own life, what does that even mean? SOunds like you got scared and didnt take the leap. Second, stop trying to find the perfect moment with the perfect girl. SOmeitmes you are going to have to date some terrible women to know what to look for in a good woman. Somethings you will never see until you ahve experiences. It sucsk becaus…
/r/seduction01/04/26 08:54 PM
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i think everyone experiences this. The key is, how can you translate that into a girl you do like. Something i picked up was that when i talked to guys or girls ihad no interest in, I didnt care hwo the interaction ended. I was more focused on the conversation than getting that person's number. So i tried to do similar with girls i was interested in. I didnt care if i got her number, i didnt care if she liked me or not, i just was enjoying the covnersation and trying to stay funny and witty. It …
/r/seduction01/04/26 06:42 PM
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This exactly, i never did the whole "restaurant" thing for first date. Because for me i started viewing it as a way to first, show her how fun i am, but also as a way for her to prove how fun she is to me too. So we'd go out for casual drinks. EIther of us can leave at any time, sets less pressure, etc.
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:13 PM
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i agree, that shit is impossible and even if it is done, it usually is when you just ditch the girl and show her you can have fun without her. Then maybe (and that's a big maybe) she might get some interest in seeing that you arent as bad as she thought. Problem is the pros wont speak on that side of it, tv and movies will make it seem like you either ahve it or you dont and even guys who struggle with it they see a guy get it and think "omg his success rate must be like 90%". Now that im on the…
/r/seduction30/03/26 10:47 PM
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Exactly, and i wish these guys highlighted that more. Like i was soemone whos truggled like crazy and it felt like all my friends had crazy success, but looking back they had no success and no game. And it really be like that. Once i started ahving some success i realized that it took a lot of effort even in the best of months to do it. It's more about recognizing situation, better having conversation,etc. Honestly i agree that it's not so much about technique or seduction really. You know ho wi…
/r/seduction30/03/26 09:46 PM
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Honestly id say dont focus on success rate because that just leads you to make your mentaltiy all about hitting a number and forcing things to happen. Instead just let it happen on it's own that the better you get the more numbers you chase the less you get it. For success rate i love to mention a scene from HIMYM, where barney (womanizer of the group) is celebrating is 200th lay. Marshall (body count of 1) tells him how barney is not that great at getting girls because if he does his average of…
/r/seduction30/03/26 06:52 PM
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still, havent seen her in a year but still this attached to her. If you really need to escalate to get over her, then go for it. My opinion is just put your focus on other girls. Sometimes to get over someone, you just need the attention of someone else. Having options is a big thing. I just think you are clearly more into her than she is into you and again, you might find yourself in a "sitautionship" with ehr but because she said she didnt want anything serious and you just agreed with it. The…
/r/seduction30/03/26 06:08 PM
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Your last sentence leads me to believe that you are an odd fellow. It's been four years brother. Have you really no other options? It is never going to happen. Please snap out of your naivety and delusions. Or perhaps it's just inexperience. Tbh, i didnt even get to the last sentence becuase by halfway point i realized he was too far gone. I made my own comment but i basically said to get as far away from that woman as possible. Because he'll just end up getting hurt emotionally and he will neve…
/r/seduction30/03/26 05:59 PM
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First, you two are not friends. You are a guy that is lingering around a woman wating for her to be vulnerable or change her mind. My advice, do not escalate get as far away as you can from this woman. This was a woman who was ok with another guy professing love and asking for a kiss when he had a man. She likes the attention. Even that whole looking at your lips thing, it either was in your head or she's trying to reel you in enough to make you think you have a chance. THe problem is you are em…
/r/seduction30/03/26 05:57 PM
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I think it's all about confidence but also not overdoing it. Because you will be noticed, but it depends what the first reaction will be and how you manage that. Ive seen guys who stand out with their outfits and are great at it because they know how to match clothes very well and better than most, try new outfits that is colorful, etc. and they wear it with confidence. Then women notice and their first thought is "i like that guy's fit". Ive seen guys dress a bit goofy and role with it and girl…
/r/seduction30/03/26 04:13 PM
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I agree with this, but something i will add is that a lot of times people want to improve the physical but not the internal part so fthis. In that list, self-improving didnt include social skills. I was like this, had no social skills and improved eveyrthing but it and got nothing. When i gained wieght i got sad. Then i improved my social skills and being at my worst weight, i was getting girls.
/r/seduction23/03/26 08:28 PM
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In a carribean country.
/r/seduction23/03/26 03:16 PM
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depends. I lived in latin america for a bit in a major city. Career people are less likely to get in situationships in these cities because they are likely kids of big time people and are raised to not be jumping from person to person. So if you are talking to someone you likely are the one person they are talking to and same vice versa. So america is more hookup culture than the places i lived. But that doesnt mean hookup cutlure does not exist down there either. When you go to more country/poo…
/r/seduction23/03/26 03:13 PM
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I had this problem. Thought i never got girls cause i had little money and was fat. Graduated college and got in engineering. Still no girls. Focusde on my career to make 6 fifures and on my body to get fit, did both and still no girls. Got depressed and gained weight and got laid off. Then i got a new job that paid more but was still fatter but decided to work on my social skills. I got a lot better after that with women, i realized that women dont really care about those things as much. If a g…
/r/seduction20/03/26 05:33 PM
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As a guy who felt like that when i was like 27 and learned how to get women afterwards, ill tell you this. Most men are not attracting girls liuke that through looks. Unles syou are an absolute genetic stud, you wont do that ever. Women do not chase. Think about the psychology of it, men are told to be the chasers and women are told to look pretty. So women in turn have options, even when they dont know it. When they go to starbucks, that barista who smiled at them and made a small comment, they…
/r/seduction20/03/26 05:30 PM
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id say dont make that the basis of your travel. I lived in another country, a 3rd world country that "passport bros" would want to entertain. Women are not as easy elsewhere as they like to make it seem. And a lot of these women have way more street smarts than most travellers. You think you are taking advantage of them, their beauty and the fact they live in a poor country, and they end up taking advantage of you, get you to fall for them, buy them expensive shit, you go back to your home count…
/r/seduction20/03/26 05:21 PM
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i think you should continue to do what you are doing and try to respectfully escalate. I get she is saying she wants a promies of somehting serious, but her actions clearly do not state that. So id go off her actions in the moment tbh. I once ended up in something similar, this girl would tell me she didnt want it to be casual and we'd end up in bed and no sex and i would avoid escalating out of respect but she kept pushing the envelope. Then one day i said fuck it, if she's not holding back nei…
/r/seduction20/03/26 04:36 PM
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First off, great for you to address this early. I wished i had addressed it when i was in college, but i had to learn basically everything you learned when i was around 25-26. I feel like if i had learned what i know now in college i would've raked, but shoulda woulda coulda. But i agree with most of what you said. FOr me i went to networking events and any event possible where it is ok to approach people and strike conversation. SOmething i realize in men that struggle with women, is that htey …
/r/seduction19/03/26 04:21 PM
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It depends on how you do it. One thing is to act like god’s gift to women (which i am saying not to do). The other is to have some self-value and respect. She’s a prize but so are you and if she cant see that, nothing wrong with that but you can easily walk away and find someone else who can see that.
/r/seduction19/03/26 12:48 PM
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As someone who didnt learn until my mid 20s, really the best way is to go out and practice. But also practiuce correctly. For me here's a few things i did: - changed the way i dressed. First and foremost, looks are not the #1 way of getting women but women will decide they wont fuck you if you look poorly or like you dress like a HS student. Dressing well will get them to at least keep the door open, your personality will take it home. So for me i got female friends and told them, pick out cloth…
/r/seduction18/03/26 11:45 PM
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I agree with this 1000%. I am a kind guy, but in the past i tired to be nice but it was conditional. To put it in another way, it wasnt genuine because the thing about nice guys is they will act nice, act like they dont see you for their looks, when 1000% they do. Being nice is overcompensating for the fact you want to fuck that girl and that is not genuine and women see right through that. So instead i started leaning more on being kind than nice. Being kind is giving someone the same level of …
/r/seduction18/03/26 11:32 PM
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i know, and he acts like the "nice guys" are being simps and catering to every little need the women wants. No they are just being human beings. OP probably comes off like a reserved AH and doesnt relaize it.
/r/seduction18/03/26 11:27 PM
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I was like this in my early 20s. Thing is, your told that it will just happen for you and it's not like that. Plus nobody wants to change their routine. CHanging is hard. Changing is accepting you are doing everything wrong. Changing and failing is hard. Changing is admitting you suck at this and as men nobody wants to think they suck at getting women. I was like this and found many men who are still like this. They cry that women dont talk to them but they dont change how they dress, how they t…
/r/seduction17/03/26 02:36 PM
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I just read your last post but i wish i had seen it when you posted it. Anyhow here's my advice when managing multiple women: - remember you are the begger not the chooser. I see it so much with men, they see a group of women and most of them are 7s, maybe some are 5s but one is a 10 and they go stright for the 10. Then get rejected. You just told the whole room that the 10 is the one you want over everyone else, so any woman who say that is not going to give you the time of day because nobody w…
/r/seduction16/03/26 09:09 PM
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I personally never succeeded in dating apps, so my advice is always this: do not use apps as a primary way to get dates. It should be secondary. When i tried the tinder gold and premium i saw similar to you, a quick uptick in likes but quickly died down and it was no different then when i had the free version. So i stopped and instead starting going out and meeting women. Not sure if this is you but if it is and you struggle but think payin gowuld help, dont pay for it. It will make 0 difference…
/r/seduction16/03/26 07:59 PM
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I disagree. SHould age be a bit of a factor in learning process, sure but i dont think the advice changes that much regardless. I like giving advie on this sub and my advice normally stays pretty consistent across age. At most the only thing I tell differently to an 18 yera old is to take advantage of college, to use college and the next 4 years to learn how to socialize and flirt and just put yourself out there. Better to strike out in college and learn from it because it gets ahrder after coll…
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:42 PM
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One thing i learned is that women go out for fun men go out to get laid. So the problem a lot of men have is that we want to get laid as quickly as possible, instead of enjoying the moment and the conversation. We go in thinking "omg she's beautiful how can i get her to fuck me?" and you get desperate. The "hey i just got to tell you, you are beautiful, can i have your number" does not work in any situation because she just met you, she does not know your vibe, if your a serial killer, if your s…
/r/seduction16/03/26 04:40 PM
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I agree. One time a female friend told me that women feel men have lost the art of reading body language. And that opened such a door for me. Because i rrealzied she was right. She siad that guys dont realize what's too much too soon, or too little too late. Dont know when it's ok to take that extra step or slowly increase it. I learned that a woman will tell you what she is ok with you doing to her through body language, you just have to test the waters a bit and if you feel pushback, then be r…
/r/seduction13/03/26 04:51 PM
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For me, i complement something i can see. Usually her outfit. Tbh, i dont really do day approaches, just no tmy thing unless im in like the line and see someone and say something randomly. But ill say something like "hey i like your outfit whered you get it?" or something like that. Something to get her talking about herself, if she's short ill drop the conversation after a few starters. But sometimes owmen will love the interest in what their wearing beause outfit is an extension of personality…
/r/seduction12/03/26 11:09 PM
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Practice makes perfect but also know how to practice. You are fumbling because in the back of your mind you are thinking "OMG this girl is talking to me what do i say?" Honestly i have found that men that struggle with women also struggle with men they just met. So practice on some men, i mean that seriously. Go up to a dude and shoot the shit with him. Sometimes the guy will be very short and clearly doesnt want to be talked to, say have a nice day and leave. You see a guy with a shirt of your …
/r/seduction12/03/26 07:32 PM
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The reason why its bad is because explicitly stating you are looking for hookups makes girls feel judged/shamed for agreeing to the hookup. This 1000%. There's a difference between lieing and not givin gthe full story. Dont lie or deciet to get it, but you dont have to go in saying "i just want to fuck and nothing else". Makes them feel like a sex doll. Women like the moment mor ethan men, they like the kiss at the club more than actually going home with you. So something i learned was, give wom…
/r/seduction11/03/26 08:35 PM
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hookups are things taht casually happen. Your 21, are you in college? If so, you gotta make moves now. Go to parties, make sure girls are having fun at the parties for them to even consider lettin gyou get with them. In my experience hookups and FWB and ONS, happens more in the moment. You cant just text someone like "im trying to fuck". Because women get shamed for it, so they wont just od it because you want to. They probalby want to as well but they arent going to risk getting shamed because …
/r/seduction11/03/26 07:16 PM
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Yeah, i think the problem with many guys is how you approach. I was similar too, thought they hated it. But then i got some female friends who gave me some tips. One girl literally told me that women dont midn being approached but the problem is men have lost the art of reading body language. Knwoing when something was too much, or too little, etc. My rule of thumb is if you worry about looking like a creep, you arent a creep. Creeps know what their doing and dont care but pretend they do. Take …
/r/seduction11/03/26 06:47 PM
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Good for your nephew that sounds amazing. As someone who got past that "im ugly, not interesting, etc" mindset. It took me until like age 25 to stop feeling sorry for myself. What i noticed was, i had the foundation i just wasnt tyring. I wasnt trying to look or dress good, i wasnt trying to be soical, i wasnt even trying to talk to girls. And to anyone saying "well i do talk to girls", talking to them for 5 minutes is not trying. You cant expect to get a number if you talk for 5 minutes. I star…
/r/seduction11/03/26 05:47 PM
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Complement the glasses, or something on the t-shirt. I probably would've gone with the glasses (assuming they are prescription glasses). I wear glasses myself so i would've used that as a way to find common ground. Really in any friendship or relationship, find common ground. Everyone has something that they can talk about for hours non-stop. Like take me, i can talk about sports forever. So if someone tells me they are from chicago ill go "north-side or south-side?" They tell me which one and i…
/r/seduction11/03/26 04:58 PM
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Do those lines work for you? For me i like to complement outfit especially if they have something unique on. Like “hey i like that outfit you look good in it. Whered you find something like that?” Get them talking about themselves for a bit. Outfit is an extension of personality. So in a way im asking ghem about their personality. Women tend to wonder if they look good in an outfit so it’s not until a stranger say it that they believe it. So i try to be that stranger. Then ill lead the convo int…
/r/seduction11/03/26 01:08 PM
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yeah, like i told the other commenter, women enjoy the moment more than men. She liked the moment, first kiss you gave her a little bit but not too much. She liked it, but then you kept trying to give her more and more. Hoenstly one of my favorite moves (it's sounds cheesy) is once i know the connection is there, she liked the first kiss, i go in for the 2nd kiss and just breathe heavily like an inch before i kiss her then take it away. They lvoe that everytime.
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:55 PM
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exactly. THing is women enjoy the moment more than men. Men we are thinking of taking her home the whole time. Women just enjoy the moment and the kiss and then go hom e and think "that was fun but now on to the next fun night". .And they will leave that kiss to just a fun night. Nothing wrong with that, but that's why im more of an advocate of just kissing her and having her want more. It's a transaction. if she wants more than you gotta look at it like "well you gotta earn that". But we are gi…
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:39 PM
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I agree. Nothing wrong with a kiss, but heavy makeout sessions are basically giving the girl all you got. To get a 2nd date or have that go further you have to leave room for curiousity. Have her thinking "wow he gave me 50% and it was good, i want that other 50%". But giving her all you got and not getting anything out of it she might be like "he's good, but i think he clearly wants something very sexual and i want something more serious or not jump into it". Give her a couple good kisses and l…
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:21 PM
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Personally i wouldnt. Your 18, probably new to hookups. Even if your not a virgin, you are still new to this. It's very easy to catch feelings when you can get it consistently and then you may fall into her doin gthis same thing to you. Not every hookup is worth the drama. You dont know the other guy or how he will react. This girl may get you caught in some drama and then wash ehr hands of it afterwards.
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:17 PM
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You entertain the whole group. That's the way to do it unfortunately. It's hard because im not saying doing this will get you in 100% of the time. It will increase your chances but still will be a hurdle. But there's always one girl who makes it the goal of the night to take care of the group. She wont be drinking as much, likely the girl that didnt want to go out but the group did, etc. You gotta entertain the group, because even if you can't entertain the friend or she seems closed off, the gr…
/r/seduction09/03/26 08:02 PM
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Id say dont book the hotel, unless it's certain. Most hotels always have room. second dont suggest near her place unless yu can causally put it that way. She likely wont want a guy knowing where she lives that she just met. Now this is something that a friend and i devised on how to take women home. Im not saying it works most of the time, it probalby doesnt. But it did increase our odds. If the date goes well where there was touching and kissing, and you both had fun. Then at the end of the dat…
/r/seduction09/03/26 04:28 PM
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this 1000%, i made my own comment but basically said the same thing. SOmething i learned is in a group of womne, it's better to entertain the group than it is to try and pull oine girl aside and charm her. Because if that one girl is unavialbel or not interested you just told the whole room that this one girl is way prettier than them and you lost a room of women by going after 1 woman. But ging for the group, the group will have their walls down more likely, if you can entertain a few of them e…
/r/seduction09/03/26 04:21 PM
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My advice, beggers can't be choosers. What you did was the best move. You talk to both. Here's the problem that a lot of men do, they see a group of pretty girls and then immediately go to the hottest one. Problem is you just told the whole room that this is the girl you want. So if that girl says no, every girl you saw that interaction is going to ignore you because you just told the room "this girl is rpettier than all of you". Nobody is trying to be 2nd. Plus also think about it like this, wh…
/r/seduction09/03/26 04:18 PM
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Look, it’s good you are tackling this now. I struggled in college and then changed my social life after college and here’s what i realized. Friendships are transactional, starting in college. Everybody is trying to go to a party, get something, etc. so i became the guy that could get people together. Here’s steps i wish i did in college: get people’s numbers. It doesnt matter who it is, guy or girl. Get people’s numbers. You talk to a girl down the hall, have a fun conversation. Get her number. …
/r/seduction05/03/26 01:57 PM
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go for it, but do dont be dumb about it. Dont just be like "hey let's go out". Actually engage in conversation a bit and then lead it to a "we should hangout some time". But most importnatly just enjoy the convesation and dont try to force it to a asking them out. If you gotta wait and do a 20 miunte convo to get it, then go for it.
/r/seduction04/03/26 10:35 PM
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Since your not great with women, id say be careful since it's your job. She could just like the attention of a younger guy, but not be serious about it. Dont risk the job for it. Plus, she may have tricks up her sleever to keep you away from other women, put you in the worst possible situation for yourself, while she's playing gamesi wth you. Not saying it's true but id just be careful.
/r/seduction04/03/26 09:50 PM
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This, with age i learned that some girls just arent worth the potential stress/drama. I go in and think "ok im going to be myself and if she doesnt like that then her loss. we were never going to work out". Because i got with girls that i felt i had to work around a bit to get with them, and honestly ended up being more drama than i thought it would be.
/r/seduction04/03/26 05:59 PM
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This 100%. A female friend once told me that she felt tha men have lost the art of reading body language. Of knowing when it was too much too soon or knowing when it was ok to do small things an read the body to seeif she is ok with you doing more or not. It blew my mind because i realized it was true. It’s about taking educated risk. Not throwing yourself at her but start with hand touching, slowly increase it as comfort gets higher, etc. then try to make her have some type of fun at a bar or d…
/r/seduction04/03/26 01:43 PM
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i might need context becuase ive personally havent heard that phrase. But if it's in seducing, i disagree with that. Because a lot of dudes treat their female friends like sisters and really want to fuck them. But what i will say is treat them like your bros in a way. And im assuming that's what the "little sister" comment means. YOu tease your little sister, you make jokes at her expense, you shoot the shit with her. Your not afraid of getting her mad, etc. I think that's what it means. It's no…
/r/seduction02/03/26 04:06 PM
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When i read dating coach i thought "probably going to be somehting dumb" but honestly dude you hit the nail in the coffin. My first serious relationship i got in my mid 20s and hoenstly, it was real love we were both friends who truly cared about each other. But I ignored signs that we wouldnt be compatible. In a lot of ways we were but in a lot of ways we werent. The way we thought was just different and as we grew together i realized that growth was starting to stunt and it became a game of ei…
/r/seduction27/02/26 08:47 PM
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since she set the precedent of seeing if it's friendly or romantic, i agree with the other commenter. Give her a nice full warm hug, show her through body language that you are trying to make it romantic. Then in the date, if you can sit perpendicular to her if in a square table. Do not sit across. Make sit more open to lean in and have physical contact. Try to get some physical contact out the way. Hand touching, slowyly raising it. If at any point you get hesitation or resistance, stop and don…
/r/seduction27/02/26 07:35 PM
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i agree iwth this. SInce especially she set the precedent of "is this friendly or romantic?" Set the precedent with "im trying to make this romantic".
/r/seduction27/02/26 07:27 PM
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yeah that takes work even with men. I moved to a new city and it still took me months. Really i just got people's numbers and started inviting them to things. I got like 10 dudes numbers, texted a few like "hey im trying to have a bar night this weekend you down?" see who wanted to go and what clicked.
/r/seduction27/02/26 04:17 PM
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I cant speak for all woman, but i imagine fitness women dont mind a guy who already is working on himself. Im not saying they wont look at your fat and think "umm no". They may need to see results. but i feel like if you start talking to some soon and then start getting some results they may appreciate the results. I've heard of times where guys start losing weight and women kind of are into the progress of it, because they saw you in the beginning of the journey and then saw the progress. Now t…
/r/seduction27/02/26 04:16 PM
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exposure therapy. It's not easy. I sucked at it for months. Got down on myself multiple times. But basically you gotta try to set yor mind to go into every situation like you dont care if you ever see the otehr person again. You just want a pleasent conversation. So i started with men. Id get to a place (bar, club, networking event, etc) id just start talking to a few guys. Felt easy, i could just talk about sports. I had no interest in making friends with these guys really, but if it felt good …
/r/seduction27/02/26 04:01 PM
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to clarify it for you, if you somehow end up in a relationship wiht her, she iwll not stop what she is doing and gaslight you to think that you are the insecure weirdo. Tell you the guys slapping her ass are just friends and she doesnt want to fuck them so what's the problem. But the second you even look at another girl she will raise all hell. If you dont get iwth her, she will keep you on the hook enough where other women wont even be a possiblity for you. Best you can do is let her do her and…
/r/seduction26/02/26 11:14 PM
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true, i dont disagree with you about being less social, i think many people espeically men are less social. But i have also found that some women appreciate when a guy can just go up to them and not be scared like the other men. They arent seeing the moves that they used to see all the time because guys arent doing that as much. I dont think covid killed the bars or nightlife really, i see people go out still. But i do think people are more just stuck in their own groups not willing to branch ou…
/r/seduction26/02/26 11:10 PM
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i agree. I play sports and im somewhat a compeitive guy. I dont care to lose or win, but when im in between the lines im trying as best as i can. Giving 110%. Im an avid beleiver that if you care about a sport the way you treat that sport is how you treat life. So if you go into a situation where you are playing a better team and you think "what's the point we suck". I get mad because sure we might lose but the battle has already been lost with that mentality. I go in thinking "we may be worse t…
/r/seduction26/02/26 11:08 PM
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maybe so, each generation is different i guess. But also depending on your age. Im assuming your a bit older if you were talking to 20 year olds 15 years ago. If you are 35 now, of course you are going to relate less to a 20 year old. You dont get the references they get and stuff like that. Im 30, ill talk to a 20 year old and not really get it either. Also it's how they view you, again if you are 35 now, a 20 year old 15 years ago looked at you like a peer, a 20 year old now looks at you like …
/r/seduction26/02/26 10:52 PM
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i agree. I went from "OMG she is out of my league" to "you know what im fun to be around. if she can't see that than her loss". I went from "she wants to be left alone." to "she seems like she could use a friend". I went from "theyre in a group ill leave them be" to "that group looks really cool let me see if theyre as fun as they look". I went from "omg im talking to her how can i get her unmber" to "she sounds really cool, i want to know more about where's she's from and shoot the shit". Hones…
/r/seduction26/02/26 10:35 PM
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Hoenstly, i got some comments on my own comment about how it shouldnt matter but i agree with you. For me, 24 is my low limit to date seriously. You gotta be in your career for me to even consider taking you seriously. Even if you are a mature 21 yera old, i might make an exception but you are in college, living your best life, etc. Live your best life and dont let me drag you down. For hooking up, 21 is my low limit. Old enough to be in a bar, have fun, etc. (i live in the US). But at that age …
/r/seduction26/02/26 10:27 PM
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Im 30, i get your reasoning but id still try to avoid under 21. For me there’s a transition that happens from 18-22 whre you are techically an adult but havent adulted enough to not be nairve with older people. There will be a mental dynamic difference regardlss. An 18 year old hasnt seen the tricks youve seen, she might see you as this older mature person and it’s easy to want to take advantage of that. Even if you dont, other people will thinkt has wha your doing. For me if you cant get in a b…
/r/seduction26/02/26 09:57 PM
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yeah, im shocked to see in the subreddit people respond to questions of dating apps like "oh you can def get some, you just need better pics". No, it's very dependent on area, attractiveness of the guy, etc. It might work well for some guys, but majoritiy of men it does not. That's why when i see posts like this my response is always the same, use the apps as secondary. If you get some then great, but dont spend your days swiping and waiting for that notification taht says you got a match. But y…
/r/seduction26/02/26 08:07 PM
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yeah im not sure of the actual stats but yes, point is, it's against the average guy and like i said, ive seen alot of men just swipe, not go out thinking "well if im not getting it in the apps then i wont get it in real life". Not sure why i got downvoted for though for telling the poster to go out and improve on how he talks to women and not to depend on apps.
/r/seduction26/02/26 06:37 PM
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dont follow her on IG. It may look like you are stalking her at work. Try to create some type of interaction with her first, even if casual. You run into her in the elevator, say hey nice outfit or something. Is there anybody you know that interacts with her at work maybe? try to get in through them especially if work related and strike up a conversation. Does your team work with theirs in any way? Maybe go up to her office and ask about something her team is good at. And look at her office spac…
/r/seduction26/02/26 05:27 PM
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Im a firm beleiver that apps should be secondary of how you meet women. Apps are a shitshow. Many men get depressed because they think the lack of likes they get in apps will reflect in real life. That's not true, 2x more men than women in the apps. Women get way more likes than men and are more selective about it. And you can't get vibes off of apps, so it becomes solely a looks game. Im not saying dont work on the apps, but focus more on real life. I get it you might be nervous about it, unsur…
/r/seduction26/02/26 04:31 PM
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Not sure if you ever watched HIMYM, but watch this scene from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvu1Oa9DQII Context is, barney is a womanizer who is celebrating laying iwth 200 women. Marshall only has a body count of 1makes the argument that barney sucks at getting women. He says that if you do an average of the women barney has gotten with and the women he flirts with his average is lik e 1.2%. That means to sleep with 1 woman barney needs to talk to like 100 women. It's a sitcom and a bit o…
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:16 PM
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like the other commenter said, your just a girl he might use for a future story to another girl. That's it. He saw from your reaction that it was the wrong thing to say. Honestly try returning it with a "i get it, i had a huge massive dick in me once it was so big i dont think ill ever feel something like that again". Willing to bet his ego is too big to handle tha ttype of comment. Some guys are blessed with that type of charisma and looks to bag almost anyone. Especially since theyve been gett…
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:04 PM
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It happens. It's an up and down battle. I had a friend who recently wen thtough some down time and it hit him emotionally. He was the guy that got married young, had a kid, kid is now grown, he is divorced, etc. Never got lucky. Then something clicked in the last year. He was hooking up with 1 woman at work parties, travelling and getting hookups with girls on his travels, getting matches on tinder and hooking up, etc. Literally lviing the life. Then he went on a trip, basically got a girl in th…
/r/seduction25/02/26 06:58 PM
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yeah id agree with this, becaus elike another commenter said, she's either slightly interested or bored. Probably not dieing to meet htis guy, but probably had a good time and was curious to see how he regularly looks.
/r/seduction25/02/26 06:52 PM
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This is true with everything in life. The first time you do something will be the hardest time to do it. But then once you saw yoursel fdo it once, and you realized you didnt die from it it gets easier. A friend of mine told me this stat about the lotto that the highest percentage increase from sequential numbers of amount of tickets you need to win the lotto is 0 to 1. The percentage increase, decreases for every number after that. For example (and these are fake numbers). Buying 0 tickets 0% c…
/r/seduction25/02/26 05:18 PM
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In my opinion, if youre getting numbers off of dating apps, then you clearly have a good foundation at least with looks. I would say, start going out more and try meeting women in real life. Too much BS happens in apps and women get way more likes than men do, so each of those women you are talking to might have 30 guys in their chat. Im someone who didnt get much likes in the apps, so i kind of gave it up and decided to go out more and talk to people more. DId way better. Probably have made out…
/r/seduction25/02/26 05:12 PM
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i would say tread a little carefully because it's two friends. It can go very well or very bad depending on their relationship. I learned that the hardway. Went after the one that i thought was more into me, the one that i really wanted acted neutral and even encouraged me to go after the other one and then when i did, the other one was just playing me to get back at the friend. The one that acted neutral was actually the one that was more nto me but acting non-chalant. If i were in your shoes r…
/r/seduction24/02/26 11:51 PM
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I think it's still possible but definetely difficult. There's a chance she may be getting that spakr from someone else too, even if it's early for them. I dont know. But just focus on you. WHen you are with her, be more forward, ready body lanugage, try to create closeness and physical contact. If at any point you feel pushback, stop. Dont be afraid of pushback, just be respectful if it happens.
/r/seduction24/02/26 05:21 PM
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I agree, too much too soon. One advice i heard is "men decide the relationship, women decide the sex". So if one gives the other their side too soon then the receiver wont feel the need to reciprocate their side. If a woman decides to give a guy sex too soon, then the guy might not feel the need to make that a relationship or make labels. If the guy gives the girl BF energy too soon, the women wont feel the need to do it with him. People want to feel like they worked for their partners affection…
/r/seduction24/02/26 05:00 PM
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Ok, question have you kissed? Have you created any physical contact? Like by 3 dates you guys should at least be a little touchy and at least kissed. If not then you are headed towards friend zone. Stop with the complementing and buying her flowers. There's really ntohign wrong with that, but it says your mindset is more of "i need to prove to her that im good enough" instead of "let's see if she's cool for me" too. It goes both ways. Both people need to prove to each other they would be good pa…
/r/seduction24/02/26 04:58 PM
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Key to approaching is if girl shows any disinterest than say "ok have a good day" and let her be. Because if she says that it shows for some reason she is not interested in you. If she has a BF, she's strying to be loyal, if she doesnt really have one it's a move to get guys that she doesnt like to leave her alone. If a girl is still flirting and engaging, she either isnt relaly flirting but just trying to be nice or she's a shitty GF and why would you even want to entertain that? It's good you …
/r/seduction24/02/26 02:19 PM
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yes, i have pulled more thinking like that than trying to froce the situation. And even nights i didnt pull i started to have more fun because i didnt maket he basis of the night pulling, i made it me having fun. Where before even if i had fun, i got depressed afterwards due to not pulling.
/r/seduction24/02/26 12:13 AM
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Could be your algorithm. I do agree there are some negative people here but most negativity i see are people being like "well you are probably a 10 so us ugly people wont ever get that" or you give someone advice and they scream "well women only like hot guys". But usually those are the same guys who stand in the corner at clubs (or dont go at all) and wish to ge tthe courage to wlak up to a girl. Then they say hi to one girl, maybe talk for 5 minutes and dont have the confidence or charmisa to …
/r/seduction23/02/26 10:01 PM
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ok i get that, but like you said you are talking every day now so you practically broke one of my personal rules of it. Dont worry, ive done the same thing.
/r/seduction23/02/26 09:25 PM
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yes, and dont get me wrong there's a learning curve. You are rewiring yoru brain after 20+ years of bein gthis way. So it takes practice and you may fail for months. Hell i might sound like the greatest flirter on earth right now, but i still fail and my success rate is like 2%, but it's about being ok with failing and understanding it's not always you (actually most of the time it's not you). Hell as a recent failed story, i saw a girl kind of away from her group and she had a huge bottle of wi…
/r/seduction23/02/26 09:17 PM
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I agree with this. I was similar but did the opposite. I overdid the niceness. Even when i didnt realize i was doing it. Did the whole "girls say they like nice guys so why not me?". But really i was overdoing it by being too agreeable even when i was disagreeing. Saying "i get ho wyou go there but ...". Instead of just straight up being like "idk that kinda sounds wierd". Basically i learned to treat women like my bros. Ill hype her up when i see her with a "i like that otufit whered you even f…
/r/seduction23/02/26 09:13 PM
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first, congrats getting past that fear of approaching. Next step, is stop getting in your head so much. Every man is different but i had a similar issue when i was finally able to approach, i was trying to come up wiht the perfect conversation and be 10 steps ahead. In reality if you can just enjoy the moment and enjoy the conversation, not try to tiptoe around the covnersation or avoid gettin gher upset. Because in reality you are overthinking it, every woman is different so those questions you…
/r/seduction23/02/26 08:56 PM
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You just caught feelings. I get it, happens to the best of us. The thign is you two are good friends who are fucking, so at first it may seem like nobody cares but then it's almost like you two are dating. You try less at clubs because you get comfortable with the idea that you are a text away from having sex wiht someone you enjoy having sex with, why risk it with a girl you may not even enjoy. So it's easy to catch feeligns. Ive done it before but my experience, im a proponent that FWBs should…
/r/seduction23/02/26 08:02 PM
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Ok so ill pre-face this by saying: Dont use apps as the #1 way of meeting women. Maybe it works well for you i dont know but ive seen many cases where men struggle and think it's like that in real life. I promise you it's not. There's 2x more men on the apps than women and women are more selective on their swipes. As for the actual question, id say clear face 2-3 and some lifestyle shit is fine. Personally if you have female frineds your age, have them pick out clothes for you that make you look…
/r/seduction23/02/26 07:02 PM
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ehh, i would end this. SHe's keeping you on the hook and you are taking it every time. The energy you are spending on this girl is the enrgy you could spend on another girl. You are mentally committed to this girl and it will show iwth the next girl. Im willing to bet if you texted her tomorrow like "sorry for late reply was on a date". Youd get a long text about how she feels hurt, and how she thought you really liked her and if you did you woudlnt have gone on that date, etc. THen you feel bad…
/r/seduction23/02/26 06:58 PM
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I had a friend who was good at going to bars by himself. Basically his idea was to try and make friends as quickly as he could. He start as easy as he was feeling that night. If he still was in a place of not feeling social, he'd talk to guys. Befirend a group of guys, talk to them for an hour and then try to make a bro group and then bringing girls in the mix. But this was someone who was years in the game. For you id say take pressure off of the fact you are virgin. You need to go to places wi…
/r/seduction23/02/26 06:49 PM
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exatly this. I've done that mistake too, i feel like i gotta keep me in her mind. My rule is, dont have first date conversations before the actual first date. If youre texting all the time you are practically having first date covnersations before the first date and that takes away the spark and curiosity that leads up to the first date. Plus it kind of shows that you are on her mind most of the day and she thinks "omg i dont even know this guy and he's already this clingy. ehh".
/r/seduction23/02/26 05:50 PM
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I had a woman once tell me this, she felt that men had lost the art of reading body langauge. Knowing when something was too much too soon, knowing when a woman didnt want you around, and knowing when she was ok with you doing somethign to her. That really put it in a different perspective. I learned that a woman willt ell you through body langauge what she is ok with you doing to her. It's about slowly creating physical touch and slowly making risky moves that show her "im into you" and see how…
/r/seduction23/02/26 04:33 PM
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When i was single i did things like: - meetup app - this is to make friends. I never really used it to get dates, but if one landed well then cool. - jigsaw dating - kind of like meetup, you do have to pay per event but it had it's moments. I went in thinking "im just going to make friends" instead of trying to get dates and i got a few dates. The mindset of just making friends was just removing pressure off of myself. - Bumble IRL - pretty much like jigsaw dating. Now, i was someone who hated c…
/r/seduction23/02/26 04:18 PM
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Yeah ive had frinds i lvoe but were shitty wingmen. One time i was talking to a girl, i normally go by a shorter version of my real name (i.e. jake for jacob) . My name is kind of a name you dont hear often but ill use jacob as the example. and when i told a girl my nae was jake, she went “omg is it short for jacob. My nephew is named jacob” i was responding yes and my friend i guess trying to wingman starts to argue with me about my nae. I could tell the woman felt off and she excused herself a…
/r/seduction23/02/26 02:20 PM
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I get how you feel. i went through this shit in college too. But i think the first thing you have to start doing is stop making excuses. So what your indian? I know indian guys who can pull. Even if you are ugly let's say, women arent shallow on looks. If you can be confident and social woman will be more open to it. I get social anxiety, i had it too. I am a firm believer that people can learn to be social. Ill give you some tips i wish i knew back in college: - Stop using dating apps as your #…
/r/seduction23/02/26 01:10 AM
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nice, just careful though. My GF works at a small facility. The director is actually pretty attractive 40+ year old MILF. WHen my GF first strated there she saw a picture of her whole team and noticed one guy who was no longerw ith the company there and she asked who that was. Apperently he had hooked up with teh director for some months and it ended poorly. Ride the wave as long as you can just be careful so it doesnt risk your job.
/r/seduction20/02/26 11:33 PM
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Your working on every part of your life except your social skills. I think you should focus on how to talk to strangers in general. Man or woman because i have found dudes who struggle in approaching women, are guys who also are not very social with men thye just met. The idea is putting your most genuine self out there and getting used to the idea of talking to someone and expceting nothingin return. Once you expect a number or to get laid you start acting desperate and trying to get this girl …
/r/seduction20/02/26 09:23 PM
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A friend and i used to debate this all the time because we struggled to do the club to motel (or our place) after a fun night out with women at clubs. Because there's a moment when people are leaving the club where people are thinking of going home but also down to do stuff if the idea comes up. But if you are trying to fuck you can't say "let's fuck" because that is like tretaing them like a sex doll you gotta find a way to lead while also making it clear to her that it's her decision and it wo…
/r/seduction20/02/26 04:36 PM
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I dont think she thinks your a pussy but it's a learning experince. On dates you hvae to try to create physical contact and as long as it's not rejected you slowly go further. The second it's rejected then you stop doing it and respect her space. If you get a lot of physical contact then you go ofr the kiss at end of date. If you arent sure if there was enough physical contact then something i like to do is just ask. The way you ask is very important. You can't just go "cna i kiss you?" that sho…
/r/seduction19/02/26 12:14 AM
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Same as the other text. Dont flirt via text. The only time you should flirt via text is if she is as a first text in a dating app to get her interest in responding or if you guys are clearly into each other, have already hooked up type of thign and just texting late at night. But you need to ask her out and just leave it at that. It's very easy to have first date conversations via phone and now the spark is gone.
/r/seduction18/02/26 10:46 PM
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good for you my guy. I wonder if it's how you act around women with huge boobs. Maybe your more social with them wihtout realizing it.
/r/seduction18/02/26 10:43 PM
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From a young age our only friends/dating experience are people we meet in school. Then school transitions into an actual job but that mentality doesnt go away even though we try to avoid it. Also many people havent learned how to meet people outside of work because again our whole lives are based on people we meet because we are forced to meet them or hangout with them in sports and school. It's optional in adulthood so people struggle with it. A lot of these men's interactions with women, happe…
/r/seduction18/02/26 10:22 PM
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I had to do a quick google search because it was so long ago i barely remember the guy and thanks to chatgpt i found him (took me a few minutes of wathcing a few videos to make sure it was him). But the guy is tripp kramer from tripp advice. Ill state this, i dont know much about the guy i just remember when i was early in my journey I listened to a few of his videos and i felt it gave me a different perspective of how to look at things and took me away from the stereotypes you hear about dating…
/r/seduction18/02/26 10:01 PM
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I dont know without detail but i will say this. Some people like attention, they like the chase more than the actual outcome. SO once it gets too serious they push you back. I knew a girl like this in high school. She was kind of ugly duckling type where in middle school she was cute but hadnt really hit puberty yet so she kind of got ignored. Then in HS puberty hit her very well. All the dudes were on her. But she started doing the pull-push method i like to call. Pull them in, let them think t…
/r/seduction18/02/26 09:25 PM
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i mean there are levels of being a dork. Im a software engineer. I see all elvels of dork. I see the anti-social coder who does nothing with his off time but code. I see the somehwat social coder who spends his day coding, and free tiem trying some new random activity. I see the sem-social coder who likes to go to the gym and work on his body. I see the semi-social coder who doesnt really love to code but does it for the money, enjoys it enough to stay and hangs out with a bunch of his friends o…
/r/seduction18/02/26 07:51 PM
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I didnt use a lot of books or resources, but when i was trying to learn i do remember i listened to a podcast for about a month or two. Really just listen to some of this guy's reels. The stigma on male podcasts had me a bit worried of it but when i started listening to him, i enjoyed it because he wasnt doing the whole "go to the gym, women want money, XYZ, ..." bit. He was actually explaining more of the psychology of approaching. What men think, what women think. How to read body language. Ba…
/r/seduction18/02/26 05:46 PM
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yeah that's a good one too. Really there's not 1 way, it's more of the vibe. It's something that i didnt realize until my female friend said it but reading body language and initiating contact is huge. And women do want that, they just dont want it when it's too mcuh too soon or feels too forced.
/r/seduction18/02/26 04:02 PM
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the pillow talk happened while we were in bed. Im not doing that out and about.
/r/seduction18/02/26 02:00 PM
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lol, funny story. Honestly it sucks to have cringe moments like that but i also feel like you need those cringe moments to have those experiences. Like im big on foreplay and sexy talk. I have a deep voice so women love when i talk dirty to them. But when it hink of the words i actually say, it's so cringe. For a while i just couldnt find what to say really, so id just tell women "youre doing good girl" which really was just for filler. One of my GF's at the time i was using it a lot because we …
/r/seduction18/02/26 05:01 AM
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Like anything it will feel weird at first. It’s about exposure theraoy. You will never be good the first time doing it. You might get some weird looks. It’s about being confident and rolling with the punches. You go a weird look and felt cringe? Keep it moving to the next group. Whme you see you didnt di from it you get more confident. When you see some success from it you will realize it was all in your head
/r/seduction18/02/26 03:39 AM
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I respect women who want to live that lifestyle (and men who do it too). But i think im more offput by her admitting it in her profile. That just tells me she is basically proud of it and telling the world to fuck off. I personally woudlnt date her. Not because i judge it but because it doesnt give me the vibe taht she's ready for a committed relationship. Do i think promiscuous people can be in committed relationships and good partners? of course, but they also have to go through some growth as…
/r/seduction18/02/26 02:51 AM
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I agree with most of this, ill also say i skimmed for the most part but i agree with the most of it. I think this can also relate to meeting someone at a club too. Ill tackle it bit by bit: - So let’s start with the first mistake - over the top compliments: I agree with this section. Sayign the "you're so beautfiul" lines are putting women on a pedestal. I have found people in general want to feel like they earned that affection. When it's easily avaialbe, it's very easy to take it for granted. …
/r/seduction18/02/26 02:40 AM
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WHen i was in HS i told myself that id get girls in college because everybody would be horned up. I barely got any. Then i told myself in college that when i started my career as an engineer id get girls becauase women after college wanted a good guy. Didnt get any. Then i told myself that when i made 6 figures id get girls, again didnt get any. Point of the story is, dont fall into that excuse. College is for learning, and that inlcudes learning how to tlak to new people. Learning how to flirt …
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:51 AM
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All of these sound kind of unecessary. I learned most of this stuff for free. Ill give you some examples: - Pro photos will not help dating profile, or definetely not by enough that will justify 400 bucks. Hell i once asked some female friends to take pics of me when i was out and about and looking good (they could decide when and where) and just did that. THey did it for free (i got them a few drinks as thanks) and saw a slight uptick in likes. - Public spekaing course - again waste of time. I …
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:45 AM
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I agree with this. I practically learned all these things for free. Pro photos will not help dating profile, or definetely not by enough that will justify 400 bucks. Hell i once asked some female friends to take pics of me when i was out and about and looking good (they could decide when and where) and just did that. THey did it for free (i got them a few drinks as thanks) and saw a slight uptick in likes. - Public spekaing course - again waste of time. I was shy, what i did was go to events des…
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:40 AM
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One thing i learned is, if you lock eyes. You got 3 seconds to make a move. Even if it's as dumb as a wave. But do it confidently. I've locked eyes with women at bars. SOmetimes i fuck up and look away. Other times i wave and tell her to come over, other times i walk up and say small joke. I have found that most of the time if i acknowledge that we locked eyes, she didnt think i was creeping she thought i was cute, or saw something interesting, etc.
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:29 AM
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I agree. I have found if a guy is worried about being a creep, odds are they arent a creep. I've seen creeps in action, literally the types that i thought only existed in movies. These guys know what they are doing but pretend they dont. I dont think most women label it as creepy but i've had women tell me they wished guys approached more. A friend once told me this, that she feels guys have forgotten or not learned how to read body language. How to slowly create physical touch and read her reac…
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:28 AM
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this. I had lost some of my friends in the last few years due to moving, relationships, etc. Decided to try co-ed sports and now have a softball team who are all really amazing and cool.
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:05 AM
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Ive gone up and down in weight my whole life. Last weight loss i went from 220 to 180. I got more looks, but at the time my social skills and confidence still lacked so i didnt se emuch of a difference. I started getting girls when i was back at 220 but workied on my social skills. Dont get me wrong, im sure it helps but dont think it's the end all-be all.
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:03 AM
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exactly the point is to not get in your head. If you make a few friends, your social anxiety goes away. You arent in your head that much, etc.
/r/seduction18/02/26 12:54 AM
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You probably are missing opportunities, but you also got to get the girl there. Trust me just because you are vibing well with a girl does not mean she is likely to go home with you. I've made out iwth girls and at night's end they are just like "ok this was fun, bye". I get this is a hurdle bu tdont det in the mindset of the reason you arent taking women home with you is because of your landlord. Again it's a legit excuse, but it's still an excuse. I say this because one day this wont be a thin…
/r/seduction18/02/26 12:51 AM
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I had a friend who was good at this. The key he said was to befriend someone as quickly as you could. Dont focus on women, focus on guys if you can even. So he’d go, get in line start shooting the shit with some guys. Then he was in. Then he’d ask the guys what girls they liked and theyd tell him. He’d wingman for them. And right there he had an in. I.e. one time he told me he went to vegas. Out of nowhere he posts these crazy photo shoot with pro cameras, expensive cars, etc. clearly over his b…
/r/seduction17/02/26 11:46 PM
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Nobody can really say but her. Like another commenter said, sounds like she really liked you and she was already planning on having sex that night with you. The more comfortable you get iwth sex the more you will be more comfortable with respectfully taking it there (emphasis on respectful). You're still young so you gotta learn how to do things but if you want to have more experiences with sex, dont think it will always be like this. You seem to have a good foundation if she liked you enough to…
/r/seduction17/02/26 10:09 PM
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continueing here cause hit character limit: - Be risky, but take educated risks. One problem i had was i was worried on creeping too much. But odds are if you are worreid about it you arent one. Just be respectful about it, if you feel pushback then stop doing it. Im not saying throwing yourself at a woman, but start small physical touches and slowly increase it if she seems invitive of it. Learn to read body language. At a club, if you are dancing with someone, try to get closer and if she seem…
/r/seduction17/02/26 07:50 PM
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I worked on this a few years ago in my mid 20s. I was really bad with women. I had the foundation, just not the cofnidence or even the know how. I think most men have the foundation, some make excuses (I did plenty), some have little to no confidnece and most have a mix of both. So few things that helped me: - First change what you can now. This may not apply to you, but put more effort in how you look, dress, etc. For me i dressed like i was still in HS at age 23. I got the same buzz cut i got …
/r/seduction17/02/26 07:49 PM
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Guy here so take what i say with a graind of salt (ladies feel free to correct me if im wrong). Women do value sex so what i will say next is not to diminish that. But women tend to value emotional connection more than men do (typically). Since this is a seduction subreddit ill put it like this, anytime i give guys advice on how to best seduce a woman i say this. Men go out to get laid, women go out to have fun. So to get laid (or bring the odds up) you have to show that woman that if she stays …
/r/seduction17/02/26 05:51 PM
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Honestly when i opened this and saw how long it was, i thought it would be some dumb shit. But i read most of it (tbh, skimemd to the most important parts) and honestly i agree with most of it. The general idea that i learned and get from this post is what i really agree with. The methods I think depends on person but if you can take the general idea and make it your own that's great. Like I agree with the texting things, i used to hate the teting game, like i had to say this crazy line to get h…
/r/seduction16/02/26 04:55 PM
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Like others said, if th vibes not there, then nothing you do will get her there. But let’s say in this very specific case, you meet a girl at a club. First ill try a way to get in with her. Hype up an outfit choice maybe. Because usually women as their friends 20x before leaving if they look good but it’s not until a stranger complements it that they 100% feel they look good. So im going to be tha stranger. Ill ask where she got it, she tells me. Then i enter a “what brings you here tonight” con…
/r/seduction16/02/26 02:44 PM
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Im glad it helps. Tbh, i speak from experience. I sucked at this well into age 27. Like you had some experinces, not as much as i wouldve liked. Moved to a different coty to redefine myself at age 25. Struggled like crazy for over a year. Had a few makeouts, on a rare night id pull but it was still a huge struggle. And then something clicked and i started to change how i thoyght. I had the foundation i just was going into it putting women on pedestals and being too nice. So i said “fuck it” and …
/r/seduction14/02/26 03:54 PM
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Yeah, the response is situation based. I said that as an example but the point is, have a after-club idea to keep the night going. Could be a bottle of wine, getting some food, etc.
/r/seduction14/02/26 03:49 PM
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It depends. But i ahve found that dating apps is way worse than IRL. Dating apps you are going through hundreds of women in less than an hour. So eveyr rejection you really do feel that. IRL - you probably talk to 10 women a nightat a club or bar. Sure it sucks to get rejected if yyiou go 0/10 but it's not near the amount you get with the apps. Also look at it from the woman's perspective. For a woman, they fear going out with the wrong guy because that could lead to a dangerous situation. So to…
/r/seduction13/02/26 10:56 PM
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Maybe youre right. I didnt assume he was a virgin but assumed he had 0 game. Idk i feel like i see so many guys here who are like "i dont even know how to talk to a girl" that it's become easy to just assume it.
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:01 PM
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ran out of characters but just to end it: As for the closing part, again you gotta give women a fun night for them to even consider going home with you. If you meet a woman at 11 pm, have a fun 10 minute conversation, dont expect her to want to go home with you off of that. You might get a number but again dont expect a callback if you do based off of a fun 10 minutes. You gotta give her the time of her life. Go take her dancing till like 2 am. Then as people are going home, something a friend a…
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:47 PM
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Your problem is a problem a lot of guys still learning go through. Hell i went through it. You are overthinking. I used to have all these thought srunning through my head like you. Overthinking every interaction, overthinking how to get the number, etc. I think you have a good foundation. Clearly because you can talk to people, you are getting to the point where you feel like you can ask a girl out, what's left is changing your mindset. You are going into the night thinking you need to get a num…
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:46 PM
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I get what youre, saying but he's the thing. You said you had a GF from 6th grade to college (im assuming different girls through the years and not one girl, at least the way you phrased it). So you had that confidence from a young age where you didnt have to work on it in adulthood. Im speaking of people in OP's position, the adults that have never had much going on for them, have years of self-doubt, overthinking, being shy around women, etc. Things are easier to learn when you are younger in …
/r/seduction13/02/26 04:54 PM
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You’re too much in your head. I see you listing you working in physical traits but not on social traits. You could be an absoljte stud but if the social and mindset isnt there you will still steuggle. Like another commenter said you sre outcome dependent. You need the perfect situation to happen. You sre waiting for women to kiss your feet because you look good. But women will never do that because they get flirted by everyone, they have the options, we dont. You literally overthought a woman no…
/r/seduction13/02/26 02:12 PM
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- Go out for your own enjoyment. This is such a big deal. You can do everything right but if your main goal of going out is to get numbers, you will not get any numbers. It causes you to not be genuine in conversation, walk on eggshells to keep women happy and you come off more friendly than flirty. If you go out adn get 0 numbers, that shouldnt be the recipe for a good or bad night. Go out becaus eyou want to hangout with your friends and have a good night. Part of that fun could be talking to …
/r/seduction12/02/26 11:57 PM
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Yes it is possible. Will it take a lot of time, trial, error and the more patianece than you ever have had to have? Yes. Understand that ocne you start it will be months of trial and error, getting rejected every weekend before you get your first yes, or before you consistently get yeses. You will go through rollercoaster of being proud of yourself for even talking to a girl, to annoyed you can't get a call back or laid even though you did everything right and even made out with the girl. It's n…
/r/seduction12/02/26 11:55 PM
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I like this list. Onet hing that a female friend once told me that i still carry and even try to tell people is that she said she and other women feel the art of reading body language is getting lost in men. Men dont test the waters as much as they used to, or they go too hard too soon and dont realize when a woman doesnt want to be that close or touched by you. I took that with me and tried to learn how to read body language better and honestly started doing better. It's about taking educated r…
/r/seduction12/02/26 05:52 PM
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It depends on you, one of my good friends was like 37 when i hungout with him, pulled 25 year olds like crazy. But he did look a bit young (he got confused for 27-32). Not impossible, as long as you dont let it be a thing, it wont be a thing. You will see some people be a bit hestiatant about the age which is fine. Women are less shallow about dating older.
/r/seduction12/02/26 03:10 PM
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no worries. I have nice guy complex too. Be careful because it's very easy to put that on overdrive when talking to women you like. And that comes off as brotherly and not genuine. Be nice, dont force yoruself to be an AH but also treat her like a bro almost. DOnt put her on a glass vase. Girls like a bit of pushback and back and forth. But dont start off the bat with a joke at their expense. I think you already have the right tools because you have many female friends, it's about adapting those…
/r/seduction11/02/26 11:14 PM
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I don't think I'm good looking, if anything I'm in the ugly spectrum hahaha, but I guess I know how to hold conversation and fool around. The key is in this sentence. You have self doubt, you dont think you are attractive enough to get a girl. That any effort you put is pointless so why try. So I think you do well with women as friends because you are going up there and not trying to flirt, you are trying to be too nice or too brotherly because you already believe that they dont like you before …
/r/seduction11/02/26 11:04 PM
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I just read your other comments. Im not sure about the car date, never personally have done one but to each their own. Personally id say maybe take her out to dinner or some place where there is no requirement to stay longe rthan needed (a bar/cocktail bar). But regardless of date, most important thing is read body language. A woman will tell you what she is ok with you doding through her body language. But you wont know unless you slowly incoropoirate things like touching. Start it off slow, ha…
/r/seduction11/02/26 06:36 PM
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exactly. But it's not just about being the affair partner or not. Even in cases where cheating isnt involved. I learned the hard way that not every lay is worth it. One time back in my days where i was similar to OP, i had a female best friend (call her Bestie). her and i were the willthey / wont they couple. I was new in town and she had just gotten out of a relationship so we were both not really trying to commit and kept it platonic. But then obvious feelings from both sides started but neith…
/r/seduction10/02/26 09:16 PM
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You are in your head too much. Im an averae looking guy, i was in my head too much among other things. What i realized is i needed to cahnge how i thought about apporaching. You think of approaching as needing to get her number, needing to get laid, being smooth off the bat. I started to think of approaching as just talking to a new person. I started to treat women almost like bros. WOmen get flirted on so much and treated like glass vases that it's not until you treat them like anybody else tha…
/r/seduction10/02/26 07:05 PM
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As someone who struggled and got better. I will say this, i have found when people get bro treatment it's usually because they are trying too hard to not be something over just being themselves. Just from the small post, sounds like you are a nice guy. THat's ok, but the problem comes that you are trying too hard to not be an AH where you are coming off too nice. Maybe even protective. I had similar issues. Im genuinly a nice guy, but i put that on overdrive when i met girls, didnt make it clear…
/r/seduction10/02/26 06:19 PM
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yeah, trust me not every lay is worth it. Nothing wrong with wanting to just hook up but again not every lay is worth the trouble and as you get older and more experiences you will realzie that.
/r/seduction10/02/26 05:59 PM
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Personally i would not go for this at all. I dont know you but this post is giving me vibest that maybe you are somewhat new to dating. Maybe you are a bit young and still trying to figure out the ins and outs of dating/flirting. This is a red flag to the highest degree. Just off of your post you say these things: - She has a BF - She is getting a bit touchy with you - She likes to playfight and get touchy with other me The thing about some people is that some people just like opposite sex atten…
/r/seduction10/02/26 05:49 PM
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This is easier said than done. I can tell you what helped me but tbh, when i was single and struggling i got just as frustrated. Best i can tell you is to be result independent but that is hard because you have to change your mindset. If this is frustrating you, it's ok to take a step back. I promiuse you a big reason you are failing is because you care too much about the result. You wouldnt be mad if you werent dependent on it. You are embarrassed by failure and i think the first thing you shou…
/r/seduction09/02/26 09:30 PM
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to Continue here (hit character limit): - As for approaching groups, again good job doing that. But it wont always go the way it did. Women go to clubs to hangout with the girls, guys go to get laid. So go to clubs to have fun. For me i realzied the mistake in approaching 1 woman in a group is you are basically telling the group (and probably the whole bar) that that's the girl you want and you want it to be known. The problem with that is nobody wants to be 2nd fiddle. So if you fail with that …
/r/seduction09/02/26 08:38 PM
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That's a win in my book, you did better than 80% of the men in that bar. In order to get better at this you gotta try and fail. It's exposure therapy when you see you didnt die from it, you will see you made it bigger than it was. Keep at it. Now the key is how to do it. Because there are bad ways of approaching that will hardly ever get you the girl. And there are good ways. It's not saying the bad ways will never get the girl, but it's just harder for it to do it especially when youa re new. S…
/r/seduction09/02/26 08:37 PM
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I never lied, if they asked if I was seeing other women, I'd say "yes, and I expect that you're seeing other men.". I respect this. If you are going to juggle the opposite sex, be honest about it or even if you arent super open about it, dont drag people into thinking hteir the only one you are talking to. I hate situationships because of this. Half the time one partner treats that the other like their the only one but then is seeing like 3 other people. They just want to keep the good guy/girl …
/r/seduction09/02/26 05:55 PM
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I agree. I think the most i ever had was 2. I say i think because it was more like casual dating and there were two girls around the same time who were open to hooking up within the first few dates. Made me feel uneasy. Like i was worried if i liked one girl mor ethan the other that id lose that girl over BS. Thankfully that did not happen. I wasnt make any false promises, or lieing or pretending that i was committing to 1 girl. I kept it open and honest when asked. It wasnt long lived either or…
/r/seduction09/02/26 04:48 PM
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I know right. At this point i feel like it's more an ego boost than anything. I've always have said that as a guy, i feel like guys dont really enjoy sex as much as we make it seem. My hot take is that guys (not all, but a lot of them) enjoy being the "alpha" of their male group more than actually having sex. Some guys will fuck girls they arent even attracted to to get their numbers up. Why? so they can tell their friends they are getting girls and they all look like super models. Some guys wil…
/r/seduction09/02/26 04:45 PM
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Dating apps are a bit weird but i think for that you can make it a nice flirty response back. Careful tearing yourself or her down. Try to come back with a nice flirty positive response. Just up the top of my head i think id say something like: - "Thanks but you remind me of geena davis because you're definetely in a league of your own". Then like a flirtly wink emoji or something. - "Maybe you just have never tried to play in this leauge. WE can go out and i can show you how you can dominate th…
/r/seduction05/02/26 11:16 PM
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When i was doing bad, i never bought a book but i found online videos to help. Looking back the problem with buying books, videos, etc. Is that first, you can get the wrong book or find the wrong video that gives you the wrong idea of why youare struggling. Second, it's good to understand the problem but it means nothing if you dont put it into practice. My issue with these gurus, books and classes is that they just want to throw you in the fire. For me i think it's important to get some social …
/r/seduction05/02/26 11:12 PM
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I was someone who has gone up and down in weight my whole life. In HS i told myself that id sow oats in college because everybody would be so horned up it would be easy. I had some experiences but id never say that i had the full experience. In College when i struggled i said after college id be an engineer and girls would wnat to be with me. That did not happen. THen i told myself when if i worked on my figure and career id have a good bodya nd earn 6 figures. Did both and still barely got girl…
/r/seduction05/02/26 10:05 PM
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I agree 1000%, i made my own comment but im shocked most are acting like this is simp behavior. Would it be better if OP just lasted 6 months, fell in love and then when he introduces her, theyre like "she aint it" or she hates his friends? Get that out the way, see if she's cool around your friends. If she's not, then now you know and can proceed with caution. People sometimes dont see the red flags early on because they are more focused on other things. Your friends are there to help vet them.…
/r/seduction28/01/26 04:45 PM
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Ill tell you what a female friend told me. She said that she feels men have lost the art of reading body language. A girl will let you know through her body language what she is ok and not ok doing. If you are worried about being a creep, odds are you are not a creep. Creeps dont even worry about being creeps becuase they dont care how the girl feels, they just feel they own her body. What you are doing is good, you are testing the boundary. That's how you should do it. Dont throw yourself at he…
/r/seduction28/01/26 04:36 PM
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I say do it. It's better to know now if she can vibe with your friends now than 6 months in and you are basically in love with this girl and find out she hates your friends. I think 4th date in is perfectly fine. It shows you like her enough to introduce her to your friends and you can see how well she vibes with them. Trust me, i've dated girls who didnt like some of my friends. I've been the boyfriend who didnt like my GF's friends. The people you have around and how your partner feels about t…
/r/seduction28/01/26 04:08 PM
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It depends on how the date went. Usually in a date i try to set up for physical contact at some poin tin the date. After some pleasant conversation ill try to open it for physical contact, something small but gets it started. So for me i like to ask about lotion, ill be like "im trying out a new lotion so not sure if i like it. sorry if im rubbing my hands too much". SHe'll say no worries, ill ask about her lotion she uses. Then ill ask "mind if i get a feel for it". if she accepts ill gently ho…
/r/seduction27/01/26 08:19 PM
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I started learning more about approaching in my mid-20s. Like you i was shy and basically a "pussy" like you put it. Ande ven when i cold-approached i was not doing well. Sometimes would freeze or fumble words. Something that i felt like helped me was meeting new people (men or women). Id do events designed for people to meet and would go with no intentions at all. Im not trying to get a friend or a GF out of this, im just trying to talk to people and whatever came out of it came out. So for me …
/r/seduction27/01/26 06:06 PM
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I agree with most of this. To address each one: Eye contact - personally as i learned to get better i never realzied the important of eye contact. I remember years ago my older sister's guy friends (i was in middle school) pulled me aside and said "look the second you make eye contact you got 3 seconds to make a move". I had forgotten about that rule until years later when i was struggling. Like id make eye contact with a girl and freeze. It's so true what they said. You can't let that moment pa…
/r/seduction27/01/26 05:47 PM
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Yeah, i dont think you did much wrong tbh. Sounds like this could've gone wrong in a million different ways but you went with tht eflow and it got pretty far. Hell that could've ended quickly hours earlier. Sounds like H is super open and A isnt, but kind of lets H get away with it. Im not usually around gay bars or the scene but i had an odd experience with 2 girls. It never escalataed as far as it did with your story but i was at a bar/club with my boy. I see this girl (call her B) grinding on…
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:09 PM
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You should shut that thinking off. The fact you ysed the phrase that your friend is “higher value” than you shows that you sre aleady putting yourself down. It doesnt matter how good you look or rich you get if you always see other men as higher value than you, it will show even if you dont say it. I would say that you should figure out a style that works for you, maybe ask a friend (likely female around your age) to help you find a style. For me i used to wear comfortbalr clothing. Then i start…
/r/seduction24/01/26 04:19 PM
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Exxactly. In the end of the day it’s about being genuine but at the dame time understanding the situation. Understanding that a first date is more about wanting to see if you can enjoy being sround this person for the next few months. If this person can bring you enjoymet by just walking in the room.
/r/seduction22/01/26 02:18 PM
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yes i agree. One trick i always love to pull and i still do it to my GF nowadays, is ill lean for a kiss, grab her chin and the second before im about to kiss her i exhale very slowly and move away. I've done that move to my GF so many times and it's to the point that she hates it becuase it riles her up every time. And this is a girl ive been dating for a few years. I remember doing that to girls i at the bar/club and theyd go crazy for it. It was like they said "how dare you taking riling me u…
/r/seduction21/01/26 10:45 PM
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exactly, girls love the cat and mouse game. They dont want it all in a single night. Especially early on, they want the feeling of getting some and imagining how the rest is like. If you gave her 50%, she'll salivate over the 50% she didnt get and wonder how she can earn that. But if you give her 100% without making her earn it, then she wont feel the need to give you what she's got because you played at your cards in the first turn.
/r/seduction21/01/26 10:12 PM
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Yes OP this is what it should be. I think a lot of times people think what they need to bring to the table is prrof that they make money, they are smart, etc. Things that only matter for the far future, not really showing them about the now. Right now the thing a person can value is, can you make me laugh?, does being around you bring a lot of enjoyment?, etc.
/r/seduction21/01/26 08:54 PM
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For me at least, it was avoiding too much deep conversation. Like you can have those conversations but hookups dont want to hear that. Potential wifeys do. So like id talk about my goals in life, and focusing on my career, my responsibilities in my family, etc. Instead i started to do more story time stuff. Like id talk about things i enjoy to do playing sports, rec-league, etc. My experiences. For example, i lived outside the contry for a few years, so i turned it from the things i learned as a…
/r/seduction21/01/26 08:09 PM
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Ok so at this point it's clear she likes you too. I get it youre young and still learning. COllege is the time to learn to get good at this so dont worry about you not being good at it yet. But at this point the way to learn to get good at it is to actually do it. So it depends on situation, if you guys are at a party, take her to dacne and go for the kiss. If you two are alone, ask her out. Say you enjoy what you two have been doing and make it clear that you arent interested in talking to othe…
/r/seduction21/01/26 07:45 PM
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For your first problem, i think your problem is how you present yrouself. I had a similar issue, im more BF material than hookup material because of how i presented myself. Always really respectful, talked abut life goals, etc. Girls appreciate that in a man they want to marry but not a man they just wnat to hookup with. I had to learn how to get more playful and talk more in the moment than of the future. It's hard because it kind of requires changing who you are but it's possible. I dont know …
/r/seduction21/01/26 07:32 PM
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Understanding that being yourself does not mean you do not need to grow. You always need to grow and adjust. Being yourself means dont be nice becaus eyou like the girl and dont be an AH because you like the girl. Be yourself with her. If you are witty, be witty with her. Work on your social skills. You get girls when you can go into any conversation not caring if you ever see her again. That's how your genuine self comes out the most. Go out and talk to strangers even if they are men and do it …
/r/seduction21/01/26 07:22 PM
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im going to say this, you two arent friends you are lingering hoping to get a signal that she feels the same way. You got to make a move because this will only end with you getting hurt if you dont. The longer you wait the harder it is. because we are together a lot i can’t approach lot of potentiel gf’s(that we have insane eye contacts) This sentence says a lot. You are mentally committed to this girl. That's a problem. You are too concerned about her that you are clearly closing yourself off t…
/r/seduction21/01/26 04:22 PM
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Sock in door or you gotta let your roommates get the heads up.
/r/seduction21/01/26 03:38 PM
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If you want her back you gotta be willing to give her that title in my opinion. Situationships are a shit show. A lot of itmes it's usually when at least 1 person in the relationship wants exclusivity and the other (sometimes both) still want the freedom of it but to feel like they have a BF/GF. Sounds like you were the person who wanted freedom to be single when she's not around but to feel like you had a GF. You want her back, commit to this girl. No more "situationships", it's she's your GF o…
/r/seduction21/01/26 12:14 AM
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There's. not a set way to do it. Like the other commenter said, be your genuine self. If you are asking this question it's because youa re putting too much important in getting the number, being careful with what you say, etc. I have found when i dont care about whether she likes me or not, i dont care about keeping her hooked and interested, my conversation flows more natural and the girl ends up more interested.
/r/seduction20/01/26 06:20 PM
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How do you deal with rejection and bad nights?? I had to learn that a bad night had nothign to do with getting rejected. I had to learn that a good night was a night i had fun regardless of whether i got a number or not. And in turn i ended up getting more numbers iwth that mentality. The thing is you may not realzie it but you making a bad night equal getting rejected, you are putting too much pressure on yourself to get numbers. Just have fun, talk to your frineds, etc.
/r/seduction20/01/26 06:18 PM
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Worst thing Making it obvious you are flirting. It's not the movies, you likely arent a supermodel looking guy. Doesnt mean you are ugly, just means you need some personality to win the girl over. Dont go in with a line that is obviously flirting. Dont be so agreeable because you think she's pretty. Be yourself, state your actual opinions, let her talk, hype her up on her outfit, etc. Dont go in calling her pretty and what an honor it is to meet her. Dont put women on pedestals off the bat, let …
/r/seduction20/01/26 05:11 PM
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Good for you for starting to work on yourself. I went through something similar at yoru age, was tired of being bad at this so i jsut went out like crazy and worked on myself. Here's a few things. You gotta learn what works and what doestn work. I think for you, what might be happening is you arent understanding or learning from your mistakes. I went through a streak similar to you. I was making out with girls every couple months but never anything that went anywhere. Something i learned was tha…
/r/seduction20/01/26 05:04 PM
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As soemone who was bad and got better at it. When i went from “i need her number” to “i dont care if i ever see this girl again” i got more numbers. Because i was being more genuine. I went out not to approach but to have a good time and if i saw a girl i liked i wasjust myself regardless of if she liked me or not. I didnt care. I was just me. I dint try to make the girl feel like iwas hitting in her, i was just treating her like a bro. Not putting her on a pedestal or treating her like a glassv…
/r/seduction20/01/26 04:39 AM
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I agree with this 100%. If i see a girl wesring a unique outfit i complement it. I dont really care about the outfit but odds are she wasnt sure how well it would look out and about. Girls sre always looking for validation on what they wear and they think their friends are just “being nice”. So im willing to give them that validation and ill ask where they got it from. Thats a good icebreaker for me.
/r/seduction20/01/26 04:37 AM
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Exactly, dont get me wrong if she initiates heavy making out, do it. But you also cant just give her what she wants and not set yourself up for the finish line. Again if you guys sre in your car in front of her place and making iut like crazy, at some point suggest to move it someplace more comfortable. Girls get slut shamed, so if you end up fucking her in the first date, odds are you will get ansecond date because she doesnt want to seem like a slut who fucks someone and the first date and gho…
/r/seduction20/01/26 04:02 AM
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this 100%. Most of my female friends say they've hungout with guys or lived in the moment and made out with someone, and then the next day realzied it was jsut a nice moment and they have little interest in continuing it. They dont care about sex as much becaus ethey know they can get it whenever. I made my own comment but ofr me if kissing happens i try to give her something but not too much. Enough to show that i am interested but also not giving her everything i got. Keeping enough to myself …
/r/seduction19/01/26 06:52 PM
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I agree with this. For me something i started to do was hype up girls i just met. Like not in a outrageous way but if im at a bar, i see a girl in a unique outfit, maybe she's wearing boots or a hat. I go up to her and say "i like those boots, where'd you get them?". I dont really care aobut the boots but odds are that was a risky outfit decision, she likely debated it all week, had her girls confirm if it was good or not. Notice that women will ask everybody they know about an outfit before teh…
/r/seduction19/01/26 06:47 PM
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I think the problem with heavy make out sessions is that you are giving her too much too early and not crossing the finish line. the heavy makeouts are making it seem like you are tyring to fuck right away and when you let the girl go, the next day she may realize "he's a good guy but i dont want something hot and heavy right away and those make outs clearly make it seem like we'd be fucking like rabbits for a few weeks". Girls dont care about getting sex as much as men because they know they ca…
/r/seduction19/01/26 06:25 PM
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Honestly really try to tale what i say seriously. I also barely went out my first few years of college. Now is the time to go out, get comfortable with it and make mistakes when it comes to socializing so you can learn from it. You will never see this amount of woman your age who are open to having those experiences. Once you graduate college now the whole sating pool is open.
/r/seduction17/01/26 03:48 AM
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At 19, i think you first need to understand that you dont know how to flirt and that's ok. Most people your age do not know how to flirt even the ones you think do. Dont let that get to you. I say that because you will fail 1000x times and only see a few successes. Even the best flirters fail a lot still. They jus tkeep trying and learn from their mistakes. - First off, you have to increase the opportunities of meeting people (men and women). I would say start changing your routine. Whatever you…
/r/seduction16/01/26 07:37 PM
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exactly, i feel the same way. Especially since as a guy, we can't be choosers. Women always get flirted on, we have to do the approaching. So odds are that girl has a couple more guys trying to get with her. Easiest way to lose that conneciton is to be forgotten. Like i have female friends and i see how their are lit up when they meet a guy. They dont text for like 3-4 days and after that the guy will try to text and the my friends are kind of over it by then. Because by then the girl has lost i…
/r/seduction13/01/26 03:30 PM
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When i was dating, i hated the whole texting game. So what i did was if i wanted to ask her out id just say "hey do you have a chance for a quick call?". Usually if it went well enough she'd say "yeah". Then id call her, chat with her real quick off topic and then after a nice 2 minutes of pleasentries and one small conversation id say "yeah so ill keep it quick since i know your busy but just wanted to see if you wanted to hangout this weekend?" usually there's a small surprise because when som…
/r/seduction12/01/26 07:44 PM
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I agree with this. I went through similar in my first relationship. I was 26, she was a bit older. We were such a great team and loved each other. I do believe it was real love. But i was also a bit needy and i the red flags i saw early on i didnt think were problems because i thought if we loved each other (which we did) we could easily solve those problems. I had my shit too. Surprisingly i was a good communicator. But i realized that when i dont feel heard i become a worse communicator and th…
/r/seduction12/01/26 01:50 PM
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i mean it's pro and cons. Big city the dating pool is bigger which causes people to be more picky because it causes people to feel like if they find a small red flag another person who will fit all the boxes is a second away. Small city, dating pool isnt as big, people dont have the feeling of "there are better fish out there". They are more willing to see past red flags, less picky, etc. I knew someone from a small town in the USA. Basically the jist was everybody has fucked their inner circle …
/r/seduction09/01/26 09:18 PM
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yeah it's possible. There's a reason it's risky. It might work or it might not work. But i have found with the good guy, nice guy approach, the girls never hate you they just never see you as a viable option.
/r/seduction07/01/26 06:45 PM
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yeah exactly and that's what i meant by treating them like a bro. If they make a snarky remark, respond with a snarky remark. If they try to get you with a joke, get them back. But dudes will treat them like glass vases and be like "oh that was funny hahaha" to not piss them off. Make the slightly rude, funny comment like you would if your bro made that comment. See how that goes. If she doesnt like it then keep it moving but i have found most girls can take a joke better than most men.
/r/seduction07/01/26 06:34 PM
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You should, if you miss you miss who cares. Like another commenter said, dont treat her like she's an 11 and out of your league. Dont put her on a pedestal. The second you do, you will just be annoying her. Instead talk to her like you would a bro or someone you arent as interested in. Girls like that are used to being treated like glass vases, when a guy comes and just treats her like any other girl, they actually like that. Hell i've treated girls almost like they were a bro and have gotten go…
/r/seduction07/01/26 05:34 PM
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Ok, good first step. But i think you need to learn more from mistakes you need to learn how to socialize and take risks. You cannot get emotionally invested over 2 weeks. It made you come off as desperate and love bombey probably. Whatever energy you showed when you first met her you gotta keep it. In a weird way, to get a girl and keep her interested you almost have to make it seem like you dont care if she ever sees you again. You are seeing her because you are interested but you can live with…
/r/seduction07/01/26 02:22 PM
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For me, the number 1 thing is social skills and personality. It’s how you talk. Being bold doesnt mean much if you are just saying the wrong things. Ive seen men get bold and they go up to a girl and think “you are beautiful”. That doesnt work. But instead for me i go up being myself, witty, funny, positive minded, hyping them up, etc. and it has worked. Stop putting women on pedestals off the bat, go in with the mindset that i as much of a catch as they are. Treat them like bros, say jokes ti t…
/r/seduction07/01/26 02:00 PM
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Yeah i definetley could've but i was just flowing and i forgot what happened i think the girls werent staying overnight (the place was like 3 hours away from my city). And tbh, me 5 years ago would've been cursing myself for not taking it further but now im like "it would've been nice but i dont need it".
/r/seduction06/01/26 04:51 PM
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I agree with this. It's weird, you can't just be like "oh boy oh boy, let's do it". I found that girls love the back and forth. Like i started being my more natural self and went from doing the bad response to the good response and i found girls loved that. Like one time i went to a fair, sat next to my friends who were on a bench. These random girls are sitting next to them. I dont say much because my friends were deep in conversation and the random girls look at me like im some weirdo. 5 years…
/r/seduction05/01/26 11:34 PM
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I'm extremely careful about not paying more attention to any single one of them, because at this stage if you do that you are DOOMED. This is something i learned the hard way. Never make it clear that you are into 1 girl in the group. I remember one time i had a similar situation when i was first starting to approach. I was doing well with 2 girls in a group (my friend was talking to the rest) and the girl i was into i kind of made it clear after tlaking for liek 15 minutes that i was into her. …
/r/seduction05/01/26 09:35 PM
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I moved to a new city years ago and tried the solo clubbing. It definetely takes a confident mindset to do that. It's doable. But for you, you need to be confident in just approaching on your own. So it sounds like you havent moved yet. Now's the perfect time to ease into it. Go out with your boys to a club, bu tthis time branch off. You say you speak to groups of women who are near your friends, go across the club and talk to a group of girls who arent near your friends. Dont worry about being …
/r/seduction05/01/26 08:33 PM
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it's pretty simple. Girls you arent interested in, you are your more natural and genuine self. They see that and become attracted to you. Girls you have interest in, you likely try too ahrd, aren't genuine and they see right through you. You are likely trying to hard to be liked by them and it comes off as fake and desperate. Tbh, i started to do better when i found that when i stopped caring about getting the cute girls number and started being more of myself, girls were more interested in me e…
/r/seduction05/01/26 05:34 PM
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to be fair, most generations have struggled with this. I agree that gen z has gotten worse at reading situations but it's not like that didnt happen 10-20-30 years ago.
/r/seduction05/01/26 05:28 PM
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Im a bit conflicted. For her sake i tuink you should break up. But for your sake, you might slay but the dating scene is just really annoying. A lot of games being played. The girls you got with was probably in a time where you were in college and around girls your age. You are 23 now, so now girls your age are being flirted on by every man out there. 3 years ago, 30 year olds were likely not flirting with the girls you were. Now the 23 year olds girls are getting flirted on by every age group.
/r/seduction05/01/26 03:48 AM
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Came here to say the exact same thing. If op wants to do it it’s gotta be nightclub setting. But ill add, you cant force the moment. You cant just walk up to a girl talk to her for 5 minutes and expext a kiss from it. You gotta put some effort in it. Guys go out to get laid girls go out for a fun night. So OP has to make sure that he gives them a fun night. Go to the middle of the dance floor and dance by yourself then when you see a girl you can confirm is single, stick your hand out and see if…
/r/seduction03/01/26 02:10 PM
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Good job approaching. You gotta start somehwere. As for your friends, fuck them. The ones who laugh are usually the ones who dont approach at all. Tbh, college is a time to learn and learning how to socialize and flirt is part of that. So use this time to get past that social anxiety of approaching and talking to girls. Practice makes perfect but you also gotta be in the right direction. Fhe fact you take care of your body is a good start. Everything you do you have to do it for youself not to g…
/r/seduction03/01/26 03:12 AM
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Like others have said, you are too outcome dependent. It happens. Understand that you are still learning. Understand that it takes time to get there. For me it took months to finally get comfortable doing those things. At first i could barely talk to a girl, by month 2 or 3 i was talking to girls but was a very bad flirt. I would say this, practice talkign to people with no intention of having it be further than a nice conversation. For me id talk to guys and girls. Anywhere. I started doing net…
/r/seduction31/12/25 03:14 AM
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As a tech guy who always dressed comfortably, I got a trusted female to dress me up. Im not talking about your mom or aunt, or much older sister. Im talking about osmeone your age, who hasnt been otu the game too long. That;'s what i got and i honestly got a huge glow up pretty quickly. You dont have to break the bank, i got my shit from amazon and the gap. Listen to what girls even the ones you dont wanna fuck say about your looks. I was alwasy told to grow my beard and never did, when i finall…
/r/seduction31/12/25 03:05 AM
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Confidence helps but it's how you present it. Dont force yourself to be something you are not. You should always practice your social skills when it comes to dating, flirting etc. But when you try to play games, a lot of times girls see right through it. Just be yourself. When you are yourself, that automatically shows confidence, because you do not care what this girl thinks about you, you just want to be yourself. I think the advice about non-chalant for me means more like, dont give yourself …
/r/seduction29/12/25 03:32 AM
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I would say tread carefully. Im going based off what you are saying. She’s a flirty girl. So im not 100% sure what you meant by “that type of girl” but if it is what i think it is then theres a chance she is
/r/seduction27/12/25 12:10 AM
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I think for your own growth you need to ask her out if that's how you feel. But just from yoru comment about how she is social, ourgoing and flirty, this is telling me that this might not mean anything. Some people just like the touch of the opposite sex and are open to being flirted on because they like the attention. They know that by "touching your arm" you will continue to give them that attention. I dont know this girl so i could be wrong, all im saying is becareful how you approach.
/r/seduction26/12/25 10:59 PM
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yeah 1000%. When i got my first few numbers ever, i was acting like i was the shit. But then they lead to nothing but ghostings lol. Now i get a number and i think nothing much of it until i either pull or get a date out of it.
/r/seduction26/12/25 09:48 PM
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IT IS A SKILL. It is not a skill when you need it, but a skill that should be practiced. Preach my man. I think a big issue is as guys we are raised to think this should just come naturally and you either have it or you dont. That's just not true. It needs consistent practicing so you can get past the nervousness of talking to someone new and being quick with responses.
/r/seduction26/12/25 06:32 PM
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This 100%. I wouldnt say i started with old people, but i started with people i had little to no interest in making it more than a pleasent conversation. Whole point is to get used to talking ti sttamgers with no intent in “getting something”. Then once i got that confidence up i went towards women and worked on talking to women where i had little to no interest in makking it more than that.
/r/seduction26/12/25 02:37 PM
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Go out approach all the women and let that be a new start to you going out consistently and approaching women. If you do that and make adjustments you will get results. Seriously - if you make approaches and learn from the right sources and adjust until it works - it will work. That is a near guarantee. 100% this. I was similar to OP. DIdnt really do approaches or anything and one day i said fuck it and started going out. Within a month I was dissapointed and depressed because i saw no results. …
/r/seduction24/12/25 10:02 PM
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First off, good luck. Second, be careful. You are putting everything into 1 night when this is a long process. Maybe you do get lucky, but i've been inyour shoes before. The inexperienced, shy guy who thoguht "ill go clubbing talk to every girl because girls at clubs are looking to fuck" and left disappointeed and it just got me more and more depressed. This is a process. I think you should definetely go out adn talk to girls but dont expect anything outside of your own enjoyment. Go out and hav…
/r/seduction24/12/25 09:53 PM
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At 19-20 id suggest montreal. Most of US you cant go out to bars. Montreal i think age is 18 to drink, clubs will be fun and full of kids your age, etc. Plus it's french canada so they still ahve a lot of that french culture and will probably be more open and down to try new things.
/r/seduction23/12/25 11:16 PM
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Yeah i think that could be the slight issue. Of course always be respectful, but also take chances. If you learn to read body language that goes a far way. It's about starting it slowly, finding a way to get hadn touching when the time is right. Liek for me i will start by talking about a lotion im trying it. Ask the girl if she has a lotion she likes. Then ill ask if i can feel it. Hold her hand and keep talking. At one point ill go "btw i know that im still holding your hand but it just feels …
/r/seduction23/12/25 08:48 PM
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What are you doing in these dates? In my experience when a date is going boring it usally means that either the girl doesnt find you interesting like you two just dont vibe and that's ok. Or you arent doing anything to make sure she knows you are interested in her. You aren't trying to start any type of physical contact even if it's small. You arent trying to be flirty, etc. You arejust talking like you are 2 buds. I had this mistake, i wanted to be respectful and show her how i was an upclass c…
/r/seduction23/12/25 07:51 PM
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i grew up in a large city, I dated a girl who grew up in a small town near a small city (i.e. small city is about 130k people but she lives like 30 miuntes away in a town of 2k people). From what i hear, a lot of times in small towns, since there arent really alot of options, people just work, drink and fuck. So you will find people who are just part of the same crew and there's been multiple intermixing withing that same group. People fucking the same people isnt rare and it seems most do not c…
/r/seduction22/12/25 08:37 PM
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Never been to either city but i will say that as a tech bro i resonated with the fact that tech hubs mostly attract men. I lived in boston for most of my life. I didnt realzie how much women boston had until i moved ot Austin. IBecause Austin is only a tech hub and the fact that Rogan and Musk praised it so much during covid attracted a lot of techies and men. The type of men that many women do not want to be around. Boston on the other hand is an education hub, medicine hub and a tech hub. So 2…
/r/seduction22/12/25 08:27 PM
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The problem is you are putting too much importance in being smooth, flirty and wowing her. As guys, we are told we have to be great at flriting from a young age but never told how to do it. Then we see movies where the guy gets the girlw ith a cheesy line and we think that's how it works. It doesnt. Tbh, i struggled for a bit but i started to do better when i stopped caring about trying to get her number and started just talking to girls for my own enjoyment and to actually get to know them. Im …
/r/seduction22/12/25 07:13 PM
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As someone who had social anxiety and later some depression around this, i totally get how you feel. As a kid i worked at my dad's business for most my childhood so i never developed my social skills like i should've in HS an dit wasnt until colelge that i developed them. I will say this keep putting in the work my man but make sure you are doing it for yourself not for the result. WHen i struggled it was because i was dependent on the result. If i went out and didnt get a number i was pissed. W…
/r/seduction19/12/25 10:55 PM
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Im carribbean latino so i am biased. Since carribeans (cuban, PR and DR) tend to be more in Miami than LA i would say Miami but again im biased to my curly haired latinas. I've never been to miami so i can't say but i would imagine miami women are probably more superficial since it's miami and everybody has to act rich. It coudl be more that than that they are "mexican". Like i would imagine miami has more fake people with butt/tummy jobs and face lifts than LA. Where LA the mexican culture is m…
/r/seduction18/12/25 11:48 PM
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It's tough to say because tbh, that just how it goes you can charm someone up and get nothing out of it. Ive had female friends tell me that the reason girls do that is becuase at the bar they are having fun, getting drunk, etc. It seems like a good idea, but then next day they wake up and they just dont want to make that effort anymore for whatever reason. I've made out with girls and gotten nothing else out of it because to them it was just a fun kiss. So my question to you is, what does a nor…
/r/seduction18/12/25 11:29 PM
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For me i think i just stopped focusing on approaching so much and just have a good time with my friends. It's hard to explain but like i said, when you dont care about getting the number or laid, in a weird way it comes off as confidence and girls like that. So when i would go to bars/clubs. Id focus on having a good tim with my friends. Hyping ourselves up. Then as the night approached if i was in line and saw a girl, id just complement their outfit or something random. If i saw a girl having a…
/r/seduction17/12/25 09:14 PM
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I think you are already a bit further than most sicne you can talk to women even if it's just friendly. The key isnt making it more seductive, it's making those friendly conversations a bit more teasing and obvious. It's not about telling a girl "you are beautiful" or "we should be together". When you talk to your female friends, do you make jokes at their expense and vice versa? Or are you more brotherly and having their back? I bet it's the latter. It's about being the guy that doesnt mind off…
/r/seduction17/12/25 08:44 PM
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Stop caring about your cool guy image. That is not cool. In a weird way to get girls you have to stop caring what they think about you and it's almost like you have to not want it to get it. It's like when you lose your wallet. In that moment you want nothing more than to find it and you look everywhere for it. Then after 30 minutes of looking for it you decided to take a break because now you arefrustrated and decide to focus your energy on other things. 2 minutes later you open the fridge to g…
/r/seduction17/12/25 05:29 PM
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I may need more context but from the sounds of it but did you know this guy growing up? If both your parents are friends im guessing you guys have at least crossed paths once or twice. Anyhow, i think you hsould just expect that this may just be sex for him. Maybe not. Maybe he really wants something with you and has liked you for sometime but never got the courage to say anything. But again, if he's a pro (not sure what level or sport even) odds are he may be getting a bit of attention from gir…
/r/seduction15/12/25 08:53 PM
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I def think pretty privilege exists in these scenarios. What i have always said is that the hotter you are the less personality you need. A super model looking guy doesnt need personality. But a guy whose a 7 might need a good amount of personality to get it done. Nothing wrong with that. I think the problem is many guys work on their looks but then forget to work on their personality especially when they meet strangers. I always hate hearing "but my friends say im funny". Nobody is saying you a…
/r/seduction15/12/25 07:14 PM
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Personally i jsut assume that the first 3-4 dates ill be paying. I make good money so i dont mind but everybody is different and there is no wrong answer. First off, if this is soemthign you disagree with then there is nothing wrong with walkign away from this. If you two disagree on this then down the road there will just be a lot of other things you disagree on. Second, it's ok if she hsa that requirement but at the same time you can counter offer. Say "im glad to pay for X amount of dates but…
/r/seduction12/12/25 11:48 PM
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Do not do this. To get a girl you have to be genuine and charismatic. Lieing is not genuine.
/r/seduction12/12/25 08:00 PM
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I agree. It's crazy becasue i spent years really wanting to get into hookup culture and failing but it wasnt until i stopped caring that i started to do better. Because like. you said, it's not about being pushy or uneasy. It's about being genuine and letting her know through body language "im into you but my main focus is for you to have a good time whatever that means for you. I just want that good time to be with me in whatever shape or form". Like im a nice guy. I just am. But when i met gir…
/r/seduction12/12/25 05:07 PM
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Lol thanks now i guess i should read some of the comments. Dont get me wrong at a time where i was struggling i did the whole "let's go to my place' thing and it hardly ever worked. Again me and my friend decided to really self relfect on our approaches and how to properly progress the date while being ok with the idea that it's ok if it ends at any point. We just started think about the woman's perspective too. Like saying "come back to my place" is kind of telling the girl that you are more in…
/r/seduction12/12/25 04:48 PM
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When i was single, me and my friend had this debate about. Honestly it's a shot in the dark but if you are having a good time with a girl one thing my firend and i started to do was basically kind of put the ball in her court in a way while still taking the lead. So if i was having a fun night with a girl and the date was ending i'd say "i had a godo time what are you trying to do after this". But obviously make it kind of seductive. Like i'd give the girl a nice hug, hold her (assuming her body…
/r/seduction12/12/25 04:32 PM
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First off, start early. Not sure what happened and 12:45 seems insanely late to me. Not sure what city you are in but i live in a country where bars typically clsoe at 2 am. My night usually starts at someone's palce pre-gaming around 8. Leave the door at 9 to try and get into bars at 9:30. As for your interactions, it could be that for most people their nights were kind of already over and set. At one people are looking to sober up to go home. Still having fun but not as open to meeting new peo…
/r/seduction10/12/25 11:23 PM
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To me it sounds like she might be wondering herself how she feels. The same way you feel like you are getting mixed signals you might be giving her mixed signals. Tbh for whatever reason it doesnt sound like youa re trying to hook up with her even though you kind of do. Maybe bro-code is interfering where you think your friend would be mad, maybe the distance thing. Whatever it is, you had a girl willing and you decided to tlak to other girls. It sounds liek this girl does like you, made it obvi…
/r/seduction10/12/25 10:18 PM
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Dont look for just female best friends, just look for friends. What i wished i knew in college was what i did after college when i had little friends. Be the guy that gets people together. It might be a bit annoying but somethign i learned was nobody wants to be the group organizer but they want to get invited to all group events. Be the group organizer. It has pros and cons. When you meet someone new if you have a nice conversation with them, get their number. Regardless of if it's a guy or gir…
/r/seduction10/12/25 07:48 PM
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Personally id say it's mostly practice and mostly trying to be result independent. If you are at bar or club. Have fun with the boys and make that your main focus. Part of that fun could be you see a girl in a unique outfit and you go up with that energy you already have with being with the boys and say something like "that such a nice hat where'd you get it". If the girl gives a bland response just say "have a good night and walk away". If she seems appreciative of the response and is givng mor…
/r/seduction10/12/25 06:04 PM
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First you can;t force getting a FWB. The worst thing as a guy we can do is try to force it. What i mean by force it is to go in to every situation thinking that we need to get laid or if not it wont happen. If i could do college all over again id do it like this: - Get a social circle. You say you are nervous when you speak to women, then likely you are also nervous talking to strangers too. Start talking to everybody and make friends with everybody. Talk to your classmates, if you have a fun co…
/r/seduction09/12/25 10:23 PM
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Like another guy said, expect more rejections than successes. One of my favorite scenes about this is from HIMYM. If you havent seen it barney (the womanizer of the group) is praisisng himself for getting his 100th hookup. Marshall (has only ever been with his wife) tells him he's actually not that good at picking up girls because if you do his average from the amount of girls he hooks up with to the ones he flirts with it showed he only pulls like 5% of girls he flirts with. That's the thing, I…
/r/seduction09/12/25 07:24 PM
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if it's sounding gay and it works then im happy to keep having conversations like this.
/r/seduction05/12/25 05:52 PM
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This is hard to do but like someone else said, put yourself on that pedestal. Something i learned was to be more result independent. I go out for a good time regardless of what happens and who i go home with even if i go home solo. When i walk up to a girl, i dont care if she likes me or not Im going to be myself regardless.i just didnt care anymore about offending women. And you know what they loved it. I realized girls like it when you treat them like a bro. They arent glass vases and a lot of…
/r/seduction05/12/25 04:54 PM
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You gotta take things with a grain of salt and recognize which of these guys are just looking for clicks and which legitemetly are looking to give men actual sound advice. When i was sturggling i watched a few. But again i took it with a grain of salt. The piuck up guys who just went to libraries/malls/college campuses to pick iup chicks i wasnt interested in doing that. But i was interested in how they started conversation, how they easily let conversation flow easily. Weren't trying to force a…
/r/seduction02/12/25 10:46 PM
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In a perfect world i would say it's better if it's over. Once you take someone back after they flake on you, more times than not you are showing them you need them more than they need you and that' a recipe for disaster. But i will say it's a case by case basis. If you mean flake like something happened and they let you know on time and felt bad about it, ill give them another chance but if you have a 2nd incident happen then im out. If it's someone who didnt even give you the decency of a text …
/r/seduction02/12/25 07:22 PM
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Sure thing. I was similar in the sense that i didnt really drink or go to bars. For me i will say this, I wont tell you that you need to drink or go to bars. But i will say if you had ismilar reasons to me where you just didnt like the vibe, just try it out for a bit. Dont knock it if you dont try it. I had to learn to enjoy bars. I had to understand that i could drink 2-3 drinks and take a break. I never got fucked up. The thing is if you want to get laid you gotta go where the single people ar…
/r/seduction21/11/25 08:03 PM
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- Dress better groom better. Not sure if you already do this but start finding your style. I was the guy who would dress comfortably even at parties. Id dress in jeans but id wear a shirt i wore to class that day type of shit. Then when i started trying i listend to what other women said i looked nice in. THey said i looked my best when i dressed in black and grew my beard. Now social skills are #1 way of getting girls. Do not fall for the trap that getting a 6 pack and dressing well will get gi…
/r/seduction21/11/25 06:59 PM
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For me in that scenario, it's about treating them like the bros. If you can't make jokes or shoo tthe shit with girls who are your friends then you wont be able to do that with strangers. If youa re too nice with the girls who are your friends then you can't do that with strangers. Honestly it may be hard for you to get past that with your current friend group. Not saying it's impossible but a lot of people's perceptions of you is influenced by the ones closest around you. Because if your friend…
/r/seduction21/11/25 06:58 PM
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You worked on yourself and that's great but you still need to work on your social skills. Dancing was a great thing to enjoy. Think about it like this, there was a time where you were afraid ti ask a girl to dance and now you arent. it's similar with conversations. You are too in your head about what to say. Just let the conversation flow naturally. The best way to do it is to practice talking to strangers and expect nothing in return. Even if it's a guy, just go up to anybody and talk. I person…
/r/seduction19/11/25 08:52 PM
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It's great you are asking about this now. Trust me when you graduate college, you will not be around this many people who are looking for that experience and the dating pool gets bigger and now you are competing with guys who have years of experience on you. Dont worry, for me college is about getitng that experience now. It's ok to be bad with women now, nobody was born knowing. Just accept you arent good but that you can grow into someone that can be good with women. I was someone who was in y…
/r/seduction19/11/25 06:26 PM
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I think to go about it, you need to accept these women will see you as a baby. Personally i would say dont date that person as more than a hookup because again they wont see you as anything but a baby. Any argument they will use your lack of expereince to disregard you. Now a lot of times women intheir 30s/40s who go younger are usually beacuase they got out of a LTR or marriage where they felt they sacrificed their 20s/early 30s in a commitment and want to go out and feel young again. Dudes the…
/r/seduction06/11/25 04:18 PM
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Yeah, for me i wished i worked on those things earlier. I didnt really start till i was 26 but tbh, if i learned what i knew now when i was 18-19, i would've raked in college lol. I know shoulda woulda coulda. But it's crazy how much more comfortable i got post college to the point tha ti talk to girls nowadays that i would be too scared to say hi to in college or high school.
/r/seduction30/10/25 10:50 PM
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So true. One time one of my female friends decided to put herself out there. She got 3 numbers and came back and to the guys and was like “guys look i pulled”. as guys were confused cause for us pulling is getting laid so we asked what she meant. When she said all she got was numbers we had to explain to her that for us guys, getting the number is easy part (it’s still hard), but pulling is getting laid cause alot can happen after you get the number (ghosting, she changes her mind, etc).
/r/seduction30/10/25 02:10 PM
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In my experience, most women don’t grasp that sex doesn’t come easy to most guys. An average guy can be looking for a hookup for weeks/months without success. The average woman could find a guy to have sex with in an hour, if they really wanted. It's crazy how true that is. Like one time i was struggling and i was talking to a female friend about it. SHe just said that I ahd to give girls a look and talk to her because that's what she does. And i was just like WTF, worse advice ever lol. My anal…
/r/seduction29/10/25 10:39 PM
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The standoffish thing is very true. I grew up in that area so I definetley know lol. I just never realized until i left. Like when i go home people say im too nice, that i need to be more street smart and not so trustworthy. In austin people say im too straightforward and mean lol. What i noticed was people in boston arent mean, we just dont get in to niceties. We will tell it like it is, bust your balls and have a great time. If somebody comes up to us with niceties, we think they want somethin…
/r/seduction29/10/25 03:58 PM
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I agree. That's why i dont think it's the worst tbh. Like i said in boston there are a ton of women, but it's not an approachable city. Ive done more approaching in austin than in boston because people are open to being approached but in boston if i walked up to someone theyd think im looking for a free drin or something.
/r/seduction29/10/25 03:24 PM
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I dont think it's the worst, but I live in Austin TX. It's got the bar scene going for it which is a plus. But the problem is the city is a hub for tech and really nothing else. It's Texas so many women fear coming here, and even though I like Rogan and Elon, I have to admit they encouraged a lot of mysoginistic men to come to austin. So there's a huge number of men here the tech type that dont know how to socialize and flirt. Iv'e never had to fight for a girl the way i have in Austin. Like one…
/r/seduction29/10/25 02:10 PM
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tbh, i can see that. I've never pulled a threesome but the closest i probably got to was halloween weekend. I was wingmanning for a friend and i was kind of in the early stages of a relationship (not official but close enough and it was with a girl that i didnt want to screw it up with). So while my boy was tlaking to his girl i was talking to her friends. All in a bachelorrette party from out of town. I live in a town that gets a ton of bachelorrette parties and it's known that those girls are …
/r/seduction28/10/25 11:21 PM
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Personally i think you shouldnt do this. First time jitters is a thing that many men go through. Unless it's someone you trust or a random person you may never have to see again i personally wouldnt want to risk my first time being with someone that i expect to see regularly and be remdinded and hope she doesnt tell anyone. First times are awkard. It helps when it's both people's first time but that's not usually the case. But if she has skin in the game (which if she just broke up with someone …
/r/seduction27/10/25 11:33 PM
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First off, i get how you feel i lost mine around that time in college and i felt behind and like a recluse. What i wished i lesrned in college that i didnt learn until after was this: be more social. Im not tlaking about being funny amongst friends, be social with strangers. Chsrisma is the #1 way to get girls to like you. When you learn to go to a party for your own enjoyment over getting laid, girls will want to be around that. Practice talking to new people and be ok getting rejected or looki…
/r/seduction27/10/25 03:52 AM
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I prefer bald. But at the same time beggers can't be choosers. I've been asked this by girls who say "well if you prefger bald why go for girls who havent shaved down there?" Because beggers can't be choosers. As guys ti does not come easy to us. So if i met a girl, put in the effort in talking to her and charming her enough to get that consent, im not going to cancel it because of a hair. I dont mind a grassy patch by the way, it's when it's enough to be a bush that personally id prefer not. Bu…
/r/seduction24/10/25 10:13 PM
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congrats. Id say dont press your luck too much but makes me wonder if you can ge tthat 3 some out of it. But again dont ruin a good thing. Also be careful, sometimes it starts off great but then women can get competitive and you end up being stuck in the middle of some crazy drama.
/r/seduction23/10/25 09:41 PM
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I agree. Many girls have told me the same. But the thing is, i always tell people, im a 6 (maybe a 7 on a good day) but i have the personality to boost me up to a 10 if i do a good job of displaying it. Girls can't see personality on a picture. Honestly once i got some confidence, i've pulled and even have flirted iwth some girls i never in my wildest dreams thought would show any interest in me. Like i remember being in germany, at this point i had a GF so i really wasnt trying to do anything o…
/r/seduction21/10/25 03:56 PM
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When i was single, for me i realized app depression is a real thing. It happened to me. It's so easy to swipe that when you get rejected you think "what's the point of going out and having this happen face to face?" many men start to believe that the results they see on the apps will reflect what they see in the real world. That is far from true. When i actually started to go out, develop social skills, and accept that i will get rejected but i should keep trying, i did much better and actually …
/r/seduction21/10/25 03:32 PM
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i get that, but beggers can't be choosers. If i had my take, id get with sydney sweeney. But if you like one girl in the group the most, she might not be your personality vibe. You wanna get with a 10, but ignore the 8-9 that might have a great personality, be more fun, etc. Sometimes that 10 is no fun and just wants you to praise her. Again always keep otpions open. You can go all in on the hottest one in the group, but like i said, if she's not interested, you are out on the rest of the group.…
/r/seduction16/10/25 08:34 PM
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In my experience, singling out one girl off the bat doesnt really work. She is there with the group so make the group part of the conversation. If you can win over her girls, then you ahve a good chance of winning her over. A few suggestions for groups is: - it's ok to have a preffered girl but when they are in a group, dont make it clear which one you like. Once you make it clear or ask for that one girls number, all the other girls immediately arent interested in you. Nobody wants to be a 2nd …
/r/seduction16/10/25 06:40 PM
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never DM. It could be the greatest DM of all time, it comes off as creepy. Like you've been following her. It's college, if this girl looks that good that you felt the need to DM her, she probably has other dudes on her ass too. Some DMing, some shooting their shot on the apps, and others who are doing it upfront or inviting her to parties. For you, id say evvertyhing is a learning experience. Use thsi as a learning experience. Ill tell you what i wish i knew i ncollege and didnt learn until aft…
/r/seduction16/10/25 04:06 PM
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I agree 100%. We've all been there but what i realized is that every relationship there is a power dynamic, especially when flirting. Even in friendships that exists. You have to get to the point where you can say "i dont need you in my life but i choose to have you because i like you. But if you leave i might be sad but i wont beg for you to return". The second you put someone on a pedestal without them earning it, it's game over. It enables the other person to take you for granted. Some people…
/r/seduction15/10/25 09:35 PM
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The older the harder it will be to get past that. The thing is, you are 21. So you have yet to fully grow. You might be in your f-boy stage still. You might find things funny that a 25 year old no longer finds funny. I.e. if you think 6'7' is funny, a 25 year old, 30 year old, etc will likely not find that funny and think it's kind of a dumb immature thing that doesnt make sense. It's not about being at their maturity level, but about being more mature than your peers. A few things you can do in…
/r/seduction13/10/25 07:42 PM
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I agree 100%. Not sure what OP is saying. Using OP's logic it makes more sense to go to the club than a bar. Like the running joke is hooking up with a girl who didnt look that good because it was dark in the club. OP doesnt think the same happens in reverse? In my experience, girls at the club just want to dance and maybe even makout with a guy their dancing with. They may not even see the guys face. You dont have to be charismatic or be good at talking, you just have to be more comfortable wit…
/r/seduction30/09/25 05:40 PM
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Ok i see. Ok sk this could go either way. If she is that open to do that, there’s a chance she is someone open to hookup with a guy she went on a 6 hour trip with. But i will rmphasis, do not make a move in the csr unless she starts it. Dont be the guy who is in the 6pm news for trying to get handsy with a girl he just met. Create good conversation, find a common area of interest, see if you can figure out her schedule or any thing she is doing after the event at night. Maybe she has a party she…
/r/seduction29/09/25 02:13 AM
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Need some more context. Im assuming this is a woman you know. How do you know her? Do you think she likes you? Why did she agree ti do this trip with you? As for advice, id say just social and charismatic. Dont try anything too soon or quickly. She is tech ically trapped in a car with you for 6 hours. Dont make it awkward for the whole drive. Id say this should be your moment to have good conversation, make her laugh, create that connection. When you get to your destination, see what things ther…
/r/seduction29/09/25 01:51 AM
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You need to learn how to flirt and how to go out. You are going out in hopes of getting laid when you hsould be going out in hopes of just having fun. College is about learning how to talk to people in general. You just said you talk to girls for hours. That's not the way to go. Like what are you doing in those hours that it doesnt lead to something more? Girls go to parties to have a good time, not talk to a guy about random things even if it sounds like it's going well in a lot of ways you are…
/r/seduction24/09/25 03:21 PM
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I agree. For me I try to redefine what "be yourself" means. To me "be yourself" means, dont force yourself to be nicer than you are or meaner than you are. Just be yourself. But that also doent mean you shouldnt try to grow and learn how to be comfortable in uncomfortable situations. For me I learned how to be more charismatic with girls, put them less on a pedestal, etc. I was the nice guy, but tbh it was like i was trying to be too nice with them and that is not being myself or genuine. So whe…
/r/seduction24/09/25 02:48 PM
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Mine was "it will happen when the time is right". I spent years with this idea and didnt ge tmuch from it. When I said "fuck it iim creating my own opportunities" i struggled at first but started to do better and learn social skills. Life is about opprotunity, creating it and taking that risk when it's there.
/r/seduction24/09/25 02:45 PM
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that makes sense. Unfortunately it's a thing you may have to live with a bit. The right girl will understand and wont mind but dating is such a tricky game. When you vibe with someone the spark is very active but that spark dissipates quickly.
/r/seduction22/09/25 03:40 PM
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So ill put it in converstaion format best of what you said with some commentary *Playful banter* You: we should go out some time. Her: "depends on the day" (this is tough because she could either be continuing the banter or she clearly is trying to say no without saying it. A person who is interested mightve responded like "we should" and if she wanted to continue the banter could say "we should, but would you be able to handle a woman like me?") You: "im booked for rest of the month but october…
/r/seduction22/09/25 02:50 PM
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I wouldnt say most succesful guys have 0 game but Ive always told people that the level a personality a person has is based on how attractive he is. If you are a 10, bascially a super model you can get away with no personality. If you are a 5 you need to have personality. Like ive seen fat guys pull but it's because they have perosnality. Where the attractive guy just stands in a corner and 10 minutes later he's kissing a girl. I like to compare it to a job interview. If you pull up in a suit, n…
/r/seduction19/09/25 09:26 PM
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You are absolutely correct. Girls are allowed to be horny and have a sexual history. There is nothing wrong with that. But i also look at the situation. If im just hanging out and this girl comes up to me and is like "hey you're not leaving until you kiss me", "hey you're not going home alone tonight, we're going to fuck", etc. Meanwhile im clearly trying to not entertain it. It tells me she is either really drunk (and I already am turned off by that) or she is too forward. It's one thing if it'…
/r/seduction19/09/25 04:46 PM
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Ill echo what others have said, you dont need to fuck anybody you dont find attractive. I have found there are two types of guys, guys who want to fuck many people but they wont just fuck anybody but people they are attracted to and guys who just wnat their numbers up. You arent the latter and that's ok. Some guys will fuck a goat just to say they got laid and tell you they fucked a girl who looked like sydney sweeney when they retell the story. Also if a girl is that forward, i may 2nd guess as…
/r/seduction18/09/25 09:37 PM
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I aagree. I find it crazy that sometimes the same people who will complain about participation trophies, people getting offended easily and praise people who say "life doesnt owe you anything, you gotta pick yourself up" but then you tell them to try to change their life to get a girl and they start crying like "but im not 6 ft tall and rich". Who fucking cares? you've never talked to a girl in your life but youd rather believe what a screaming head on youtube says because he's part of the 1% of…
/r/seduction18/09/25 07:22 PM
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exactly some people would rather believe they suck and there's no way out of it, then actually try. Tell them "what do you have to lose just try to get better?" and they cry "bUt iM nOT 6 fT tALl" or "mY hERo oN yOuTUbe sAiD I nEed tO bE tAlL aNd rIch sO tHeRe's no pOiNt TrYiNg".
/r/seduction17/09/25 10:15 PM
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Yeah. Im sure it works and can happen but the mentality at the mall is so weird. People are just trying to be left alone and buy their shit. It’s different for HSers cause they probably hangout at the mall and they don’t have places where they can go out to meet each other. But i cant imagine me at 29 going up to a 30 year old to flirt. Because older people just arent in that mentality of dressing up for the mall. Theyre in comfort clothes trying to nice clothes. Nobody wants to be flirted on in…
/r/seduction17/09/25 02:12 AM
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honestly dont sweat it. Ive personally never done that but tbh I dont really see the point other than it possibly being harder than flirting anywhere else. Because it's such an unexpected place to flirt unless your a HS kid or something. Like girls are there either for themselves or to buy their BFs/husbands things. They arent trying to get flirted on. Kudos to people who can do it, like i do think if you can do it there than you can do it anywhere which is probably why it's such a place to get …
/r/seduction16/09/25 09:56 PM
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It’s not seeing them as anything but friends. It’s just going up and expecting nothing but a nice conversattion. It’s open to the possibility of anything, that this person can be a friend, potential partner or just a person you never see in your life. To learn it, you just go out and talk to people and get comfortable with the idea of chatting with anybody. When i learned it i literally just talked to everybody.
/r/seduction12/09/25 02:50 AM
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I agree it sounds clinical calling it exposure therapy but thats what exposure therapy is, basically put yourself in a situation and getting comfortable with it. The way i saw it was if i went up to a guy cause i noticed he is from my hometown and has a shirt from my home state. Id go up to him to say hi and ask where he’s from. Im not interested in getting his number or being his best friend, just in having a nice chat with a fellow statesmen. So i just started treating my approaches with women…
/r/seduction12/09/25 02:41 AM
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For a Sr in HS. I would say dont worry about anything else but having a good time. You and your friends do not know how to talk to girls (even the ones who seem to be killing it). If you go in thinking "i need to get a girls number" you will not get a girls number becaue you will get nervous, you will come off as desperate, and girls already have their walls up when guys approach. You should go there and be focused on making sure you and your friends are having a good time. Be open to talking to…
/r/seduction11/09/25 04:22 PM
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Always is a strong word. Tbh, anything you read should be taken with a grain of salt. Because what works for him might not work for you. There's not 1 way to do everything. EVeyrbody is different. What this book presents is more of a generalization. He saw this worked for him, but im sure there are guys who are just as good and did the opposite and that worked for them. Again, it;'s ok to bend the rules a little bit.
/r/seduction11/09/25 04:14 PM
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Hey, tbh you can get past this. You should just keep having pleasent conversations with women and dont expect anything to come out of it. it sounds weird but a lot of times men struggle to talk to women because deep down they are hoping to get that number, or get a date but dont know how to do it so their anxiety kicks in. It's a ll exposure therapy. Even the guys you think are good at talking to girls are not. I remember when I was in college, I befriended these two girls and they loved hanging…
/r/seduction11/09/25 04:12 PM
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I can see the argument for both. I think weekend nights are just easier to keep it open for if it goes well. But i do get the sense that she may be busy and it gives the impression you arent. Id say first secure the date and then dont avoid a date because a book says too, every person is different just book it for a day that both you guys are free. Honestly the way i see it the sooner the better because you dont want to give them time to lose interest. So if it's wednesday and a girl said "im fr…
/r/seduction11/09/25 03:48 PM
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You could but AI is not going to tell you to not use AI when on a date. (it might actually) Like are you going to let the other person know you are recording them for your own purposes? The other person is going to find that weird and it's not going to be because of everything else you said. you could have the best conversation ever and adding some voice recording AI at the start is going to dampen the mood. It's ok to go old school and just have a conversation and try to vibe and if you didnt t…
/r/seduction09/09/25 07:44 PM
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I agree with this, because he is dating one of them you want to do it in a way where your GF doesnt have a bad reaction and thinks you are into her friend and possibly destroy your relationship. Ideally they should all be alone, maybe OP can suggest she stay the night, they keep playing games (maybe spin the bottle or something that creates physical touch). I think she should find a way to set up the situation and see if they bite or if it comes up again like if the GF says "we should do it" jok…
/r/seduction09/09/25 01:27 PM
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I agree that most of us should be better at hygiene. Im not even referring to your list. Im referring to guys literally not even showering everyday. Like that was something that I always found odd. The lack of showering. I try to shower at least once a day (2-3 times depending on what I did that day) but Ive seen people who because they didnt "sweat" that day they wont shower the next day. Also, cologne is something that is very big. It is very underrated how important cologne is. Gilrs love a g…
/r/seduction08/09/25 07:39 PM
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You will never know 100%. Talking to some of my female friends, they have said how they meet a guy they are interested in the moment but for whatver reason they get a bit lazy or lose interest and realize they just liked the conversation but had no intentions to make it more than that. Again, it just happens. It could be this girl was just legitimetely bored at home, didnt know who to reach out to so she texted you and maybe other guys. Then she found somehting to cure her boredom so she didnt c…
/r/seduction08/09/25 07:34 PM
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I agree. In any relationship it's not about not caring about your GF/wife. It's ok to be sad that the relationship is over, it's ok to want to beg and try to fix it. But to me, i had to learn that if you want respect in the relationship it's ok to make the other person work for the relationship in a way. To make it clear that you love them and if the relatiosnhip ends you will be sad but that you dont need them in your life. If they decide to walk they are free to walk. One time a GF who i loved…
/r/seduction08/09/25 07:32 PM
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This 100%. The reason many guys fail (and I have found this in myself too) is because we focus too much on the outcome that it starts to be obvious are intentions. Instead do it because that little moment with a girl is fun not because you expect to get her in bed at night's end Or because you expect to get her number. Girls go out for a fun nigth with the girls so meet them at their level.
/r/seduction08/09/25 03:32 PM
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Yeah I agree. This is the same guy who posted another crazy story of laying with 3 girls in one night seperately. Throughout the storyit just seemed odd to me. Are there girls who would def sleep with a 35 year old just to have that story in their lives? Sure. If he had said he went to a bar, started dancing, and then did this. It's more believable. But tbh, it's just hard to say from just that interaction in broad daylight. Like he just walked up to her as she was eating and talked and didnt se…
/r/seduction08/09/25 03:12 PM
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She will hardly ever want to leave her friends for a guy, unless she is that one girl in the group that loves to wonder off. But i t hat moment you dont know that. Best you can do isget in with the group. Be that social buttferly. That also means that you will have to be open minded about which girl of the grouo you go with. Because that girl youve been eyeing may not be into you or has someone. Ive had the mistake where i make it obvious a bit too quickly of who i like in the group, she either …
/r/seduction07/09/25 01:33 PM
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I think it was due to me not always being around that girl. She was obviously all over the place but whenever i questioned it everybody she knew would just say “she’s just weird. It means nothing”. So i guess since she was not my gf and i wasnt teying to hookup with her or anhthing i just didnt care
/r/seduction06/09/25 08:35 PM
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I agree somewhat. But i wouldnt generalize it to all good grils. But i do agree that at times girls especially the ones putting the idea that they are prudes alot of times are not. Like i knew one girl in my friend group. When i met her she told me she had only ever been with like 2 dudes. Even claiming she had a year without having sex. I said cool, i didnt want to just asume she was some ho, so i took her for her word. I mentioned it to one of her friends who had known her for years and the fr…
/r/seduction06/09/25 01:57 PM
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It's all about options in the end of the day. Girls usually have the options because guys flirt with them on a daily basis so to them subconsciously they think "I can get a guy if I wanted to". I've had women be shocked that it doesnt work like that for men. I tell them how it is for men and they seem shocked how dating is for most of us. Now there are men who are exceptions like your cousin. When a guy can get women fall for him so easily in a lot of ways he starts behaving similar to how women…
/r/seduction05/09/25 04:58 PM
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IRL in my opinion. There is still a stigma to online dating for women because you can't feel vibe online or thorugh pictures. There's also the fear that the dude can be an absolute nut and women fear being in a very dangerous position with a man they just met. Also some people use dating apps as an ego boost, they arent really trying to meet they just wanna feel like they have options. Too many games are played in online dating. IRL, it might suck and need more effort. But you can find a more ge…
/r/seduction04/09/25 08:29 PM
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I dont know what country you are from (I lived in the caribbean for a few years so Iknow some countries dating culture is a bit different). I would avoid talking about the future for now. That may scare her off. Just live more in the moment but also try to keep the spark alive. Like ahve you guys even kissed yet? If you ugys havent even kissed yet or done anything past that, she might be getting a different vibe of this relationship and may think it's just friendly. You should get some firsts ou…
/r/seduction04/09/25 06:06 PM
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I dont think you should go into college thinking about doing any "moves" or "approaches". The way I see it, college is a place to learn in more ways than you think. It's a huge dating pool that you will never get to experience ever again. Everybody is learning to figure it out. Use this to learn how to approach people in general (guys and girls). How to meet strangers and strike up conversation. Learn that not every interaction has to end wiht you getting someone's number, it comes off as insinc…
/r/seduction04/09/25 03:28 PM
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Same here. My GF always mentions how im quiet during sex. Im enjoying it a lot and sometimes I will say some dirty talk but she says even when im finish I dont moan or anything. I really do enjoy it, im not sure what im supposed to do or say lol. I think for me, i just dont want to lose the orgasm so I sreally try to focus and I know if i focus more on the moaning or dirty talk then im not going to get there as easily. It's something that im working on more, but I also tell her we can either hav…
/r/seduction04/09/25 02:27 PM
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this. The girls who are just that nice will stop it way before it even gets there. Some girls are just friendly and nice. I had a friend who was a really flirty girl. One time she literally was backing her ass on me. I was young so I thought, "shit is she trying to get it". I decided to test the waters a bit and if she was going to touch me like that than she clearly wants it. I was wrong lol. The second I reacted to that and tried getting flirty with her too, she held me off at length and basic…
/r/seduction03/09/25 08:43 PM
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yeah I agree. dont just let her vent. Try to put words into actions and get some alone time with her. Use the venting as a way to ahve a day with her. It may need a few dates if she is just venting but maybe try to create a night wher eyou say something like, "you ust need a day to forget about him. Let's go out and just have a good night out in the town".
/r/seduction03/09/25 07:00 PM
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I agree with other commenter. Id say slow down, dont rush this because she may be using you in some type of way as an outlet and keeping your focus away from other girls. Id say just keep talking to her, have her reach out here and there. See where she wants to take it, if after some time of texting she is still being weird and venting, then dont be afraid to slowly drift away from that. Some people just want to feel like they have opposite sex attention.
/r/seduction03/09/25 06:38 PM
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I somewhat agree. For those saying "well we dont see the butt ugly man with an hot girl". Maybe that's because the butt ugly man is super insecure, doesnt work on his looks, social skills, etc. Sometimes the problem is just as much us and our views as it is theirs. I dont think OP is saying you can get with the hottest actress tomorrow, he's saying if you think a girl's out of your league, odds are she's not and you are just creating a barrier for yourself. You aren't going to meet megan fox, sy…
/r/seduction03/09/25 04:43 PM
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You will get that too. Dont worry. Remember you are a freshman. At your age, girls are trying to figure out what they want and they dont want to be seen as the easy girls. To you guys, sex is still a big thing. School literally just started for you guys. Keep doing you, it's not like the movies where every weekend you will get laid. It takes time. Keep doing you, you are doing better than most. It's a number's game, a girl is bound to say yes.
/r/seduction03/09/25 12:39 AM
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You arent doing anything wrong. Keep at it and it will work out. You will figure out a way to get her to want to go back. The thing is, these girls are also having fun experiences. Sometimes you will make out wihta girl and to her, that was the highlight of the night. Girls dream of having a fun night with the girls. Tehy dont brag about going home with a dude they brag about dancing and making out with someone. Something a friend taught me was, at the end of the night if you guys been making ou…
/r/seduction03/09/25 12:32 AM
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Hang in there. It's all exposure therapy. What you should do is have mini-goals. The first night, make it a goal to talk to 1 girl. Even if it's just a hello, she says something back and you walk away. If that gives you a confidence boost, then try to talk to more girls. Always try to do more than your expected goal. The expected goal is more there for a small goal to reach in case one day youarent feeling it, youc an just force yourself to do the small goal. Then keep adding to it every night y…
/r/seduction02/09/25 11:44 PM
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you are overthinking it. If you see her and she is on the phone, wave and keep it moving. If you just keep walking it will show her that you might not be interested in her. It's not always good to play it cool. Just wave and keep it moving. It's small and dumb but it shows you value the fact she is busy but you also arent going to waste your time by waiting for her to finish. She hasnt earned that right yet. Then if you see her not on the phone one day, say hi. Ask her how things have been going…
/r/seduction02/09/25 03:16 PM
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Ive never been to australia but it could be that something happened recently in that bar where they feel like they have to really be careful now. Maybe someone got taken advantage of and now that's known as the bar where girls get taken advantage of. Now they need to be hard-asses about it.
/r/seduction02/09/25 03:11 PM
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Hey good luck. First thing is use college as a way to learn to talk to women and be ok with the idea that you may not get laid tomorrow and that's ok. You might fail a bunch before you start to succeed. But dont let that get to you. I get you are trying to get that expereince ASAP but if you try to force it, it will come off as desperate. Best thing I ever did that I feel clicked for me was I started to treat girls like bros. Im a witty guy but when I met girls I was tryingt o be too nice. Once …
/r/seduction29/08/25 10:18 PM
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Few tips from someone who was a shy guy and even if im not great at it, I had to learn a few things: - First off, charisma is the #1 thing. Looks matter but not that much. Do not go in thinking that if you get a 6-pack girls will fall for you, they will not. The way I see it the better you look the less personality you need. So a supermodel doesnt need to have charisma to get a girl. But an average looking guy needs a good amount of charisma. An ugly guy, needs a lot of charisma. - Learn how to …
/r/seduction28/08/25 09:13 PM
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I think you are thinking it too much a bit. It was your first time talking and she sounds like she was interested. But you also have to put yourself in her POV. Girls are more cautious because one bad date can put them in a really bad situation with a person twice their size. You asked her to be in an enclosed space with you (your car) when you guys just met. She said "maybe another time" because it was 11 pm and a guy she just met asked her to ride in a car with her. I dont think it was a rejec…
/r/seduction28/08/25 06:27 PM
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this 100%. I think a lot of us guys need to be ok with the idea of not closing. Who cares if the boys make fun that I brought her home and didnt close? I get we all want to have sex, but it takes 2 to tango. Just make her feel comfortable and if she is down she is down. Once she feels comfortable slowly go for physical contact on the couch, a little cuddling, a kiss. Test the waters and let her feel comfortable with saying no. If we dont do it tonight odds are we will take a further step the nex…
/r/seduction27/08/25 11:16 PM
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I second this. OP dont go in saying "you are so beautiful". That only works in the movies. The way I see it is the same way I would a guy in a way. I woudlnt go up to a guy and call them handsome even if they were handsome. Id go up to a guy if he was wearing a hat of my favorite team or a shirt with something I liked (maybe a band or game). Id go up and compiment it and use that to have a pleasent converstaion. Same goes for girls. Find a common ground. In the library scenario it could be "wher…
/r/seduction27/08/25 08:44 PM
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You can't force people to be obsessed with you. The more you try the less they will be obsessed with you. Doing that to the wrong person will lead this person to use you. Next thing you know she wants to keep things "casual" and not use BF/GF terms but then she gets mad at you for even talking to agirl. Then you keep yourself reserved because you are a nice guy who doesnt want to hurt her. Then you find out she had a girls night and hooked up wiht someone and the best she got is "well I told you…
/r/seduction27/08/25 08:41 PM
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First off, yes you should always keep it outside your social circle. Keeping it in your social circle just creates drama a lot of the times. Only in the sitcoms are people that chill after breaking it off with a person in their social cirlce. But in your case, you should definetely avoid it because if you do fuck boy shit to your friends, they will see you as a f-boy and anybody who enters that circle will see you that way too. There is power to how people closest to you see you. For example, I …
/r/seduction27/08/25 07:03 PM
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this. we can choose the date and if a girl is like "eww there, why not a fancy restuarant" then maybe that's not the girl for you. for first dates, I take girls out for coffee or drinks. Something casual, let's see if we can actually talk to each other and vibe well without feeling forced to stay. It's not an interview it's just a casual thing. If we vibe well and it was fun, I slowly increase the expense rate. Date #2, casual dinner or activity. Date #3 somewhere nice, etc. I dont mind paying i…
/r/seduction26/08/25 09:18 PM
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ok so what I said can bve true for first girl and third girl. Because even if the first girl was in a relationship, it was likely a high school relationship where they probably didnt do it much. Or even ift hey did, she is still new to the idea of being single and having hookups. For the 2nd girl, it could be she likes playing games. Im sure she might have been getting shit for her count or is being seen that way so in a way it's proving "well we didnt do anything so technically im not the perso…
/r/seduction26/08/25 08:32 PM
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like wholemilkelitist said, women are human too. Shitty men are more loud and noticeable, shitty women know how to manipulate situations and you are now around a shitty woman. I once saw a girl tell a guy that she was too busy to get committed to him because "she was busy with work and had to much going on". The guy was like "cool we can just be casual" and the second he started tlaking to girls, even girls who were platonic friends, she got territorial and everybody noticed. He was a respectabl…
/r/seduction26/08/25 08:17 PM
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First off, dont be that guy. The guy who is ok with being the other man and stealing someone else's girl. That sounds cool growing up but it causes nothing but drama and when people see that nobody will want you around. I definetely would not want to be around a friend who did this to another guy because my mindset is, if he is doing it and doesnt care it's only a matter of time before he tries to do it to me because he clearly values getting his D wet over everything else. I gety ou are young a…
/r/seduction26/08/25 08:03 PM
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This is definetely the first women he has consistently been with. One thing is to lose virginity with a girl before colelge that you dont run into again. Another thing is once you ahve that decent expereince and hooking up with that first person who gives you that experience, it's very easy to confuse that intimacy for love. Tbh, they are both walking red flags in my opinion. She's worse because she is the one that's playing 2 men but he is willingly being a participant in that and doesnt seem t…
/r/seduction26/08/25 07:54 PM
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Not the firsnd zone. IM assuming you are early 20s (maybe college age) and just around inexpereinced girls who want that experience but not comfortable yet. There are many times girls just want to make out with someone at a bar/club and get taken by the moment and it has nothing to do with you, just htem wanting a good time. They dont care about goign home with you, they just want a nice girls night out story. But you are getting invited to spend the night wtih them just no sex. That is the part…
/r/seduction26/08/25 07:09 PM
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exactly, and to be honest it weeds out some of the girls who are full of themselves and have that expectaiton. If a girl felt a type of way that the first date is at a coffee house or chooses the guy that took her to a fancy restaurant because he lavished her, then maybe that's not the girl for me. Let's vibe and see if this is a match. Like im trying to prove to you that im worth taking you to bed, girls should also prove to us that they are worth buying them a fancy dinner.
/r/seduction21/08/25 07:13 PM
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I was going to write something and you just hit the nail in the coffin of what I was going to say. I always tell guys, we are just as much of a prize as they are. Growing up we are told that women are the prize, do everything for them, it's not exactly like that. Many of my female friends have told me that when they have gone out, gotten drunk, they'll have great conversations with good men but then not go for them at the bar. Because wants they sober up, they either get scared, dont want to put…
/r/seduction21/08/25 04:16 PM
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I haven't read books myself but something that helped me was just not caring as much anymore about treating girls like a glass vase. Like im generally a nice guy but I noticed with girls it was like I wanted to show them that I could be a "protector", that I wasnt some creep and that I was a nice guy. I kept my distance, etc. I got numbers but it never went anywhere. For you i'd say, first accept that even if you do beat "nice guy syndrome" girls might still ghost. Some girls give numbers becaus…
/r/seduction21/08/25 02:41 PM
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Absolutely it is. I had a friend who at the time was 37 and would date 25 year olds. He looked young. When I met him I thought he was 28-32. We would be out and some girls thought he was 25. He never lied, he would play the "how old do you think i am" game when it got brought up, was super casual about it and then would say his age and girls would go crazy. You can use that to your advantage if you make it a casual flrity interaction. Dont lie, girls dont like that. But even then, girls want to …
/r/seduction18/08/25 05:56 PM
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With either thing, dont do it to win over the girl, do it because that's who you are and you aren't expecting any acknowlogement from it. Personally, I might open a door, but I wont buy flowers early on. For me flowers is more of a "we are together and you are my girl" type of thing. I think as guys when it comes to dates, we also need to understand we are the prize as well. For me personally, flowers on a first date say that the women is the prize and I am not and I need to earn her love, while…
/r/seduction29/07/25 03:23 PM
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I agree with looks. I stupidly did buzz cuts until I was like 25. When I finally decded to mix it up with fades, I did so much better. I had female friends tell me how black and hats made me look good and I started to do better as well. Just going to old navy and getting 10 dollar shirt deals was mostly what I did. One thing I would add that you didnt put was, the power of cologne is big. When I started wearing cologne more often I was shocked how well girls wanted to be around me. You want to b…
/r/seduction22/07/25 08:07 PM
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FWBs just kind of happen. If you are hooking up with girls for about a month id say you do have a FWB sidtuation. The movies have made this misconception that it has to be 2 friends who just decide to fuck and are friends outside of that. FWB usually shouldnt last too long. A month is probably average tbh. Because after a month both sides have realized they dont really want to be with each other and have likely gotten most of what they wanted from the relationship.
/r/seduction22/07/25 02:03 PM
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Latino here. Latina women are known as more fiesty. They dont take shit from no one. But they will hold it down for you if you treat the right. I do agree that many of them expect to be treated like princesess especially the ones that grew up in cities. That’s because in latino culture, women are treated like glass vases in alot of ways. Many of the women grow up as daddy’s little girl. It’sa common thing that dads are very tough on their sons but soft on their daughters. So many of them grew up…
/r/seduction12/07/25 01:28 PM
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This, first off any friend is good to have regardless of sex. When you have girls around you, it helps because it is shown that if you have women around you women will assume you arent a creep. One time I was out and about and one of my female friends decides to wingwoman for me, she drags me to a group of girls and tbh I was worreid because of how it might look we are together. And tbh, it was the best wingperson I ever had. The girls immediately loved me, she hyped me up, made it cealr we were…
/r/seduction10/07/25 06:49 PM
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Doesnt have to be yourself, find friends who want to go out. Send a text like "anybody want to go out this friday to the bars?" I get feeling weird about making changes, but take it from someone who has been there. Dont over complicate things, you are hurting yourself.
/r/seduction09/07/25 03:38 PM
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It's hard I get it. I was in that place. I would say maybe consider to start going out to bars/clubs. I didnt like it either, but in the end of the day that's where the single girls are at. For me I tried it out and realzied I liked doing that.
/r/seduction09/07/25 03:33 PM
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I dont think I get the question but I assume you meant "do you believe you can sleep with hot girls?" As for your post. Looks do help but they are not the end all be all. Getting a 6 pack and dressing nicely doesnt get you the girl. Girls have options, they are always getting flirted on and they arent as shallow about looks as guys are. Unless you are part of the 1% of good looking men, they wont throw themselves at you. It's charisma the #1 thing that I've noticed works best. You are working on…
/r/seduction09/07/25 03:11 PM
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The best way to get someone to care for you is to not care if you ever see them again in some way. Relationships are give and take and a lot of times because a game. When someone is a bit too needy, it creates in many people the idea that they dont have to work fo rthe relationship because the needy person will always be there at a quick call or text. So they can do other things and when that doesnt work out, they have the needy person for reassurance. In any type of realtionships (ONS, FWB, etc…
/r/seduction07/07/25 05:41 PM
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Great job. That's really the secret that I personally had to get past. I remember I did my first apporach too and got rejected. But I got a wave of energy that made me approach 4-5 more girls that night. Even if nothing happened, it is more of a rush than swiping on your phone. Because it's exposure therapy, you realized you werent as awkward or weird and that the girls took it well they just werent interested. Then you look around and see 30 guys just standing around scared to talk to women and…
/r/seduction07/07/25 05:26 PM
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If you two are decent freinds and you have the girls number then I dont think it's outside the realm of possiblity at the next dance class to be like "hey I enjoyed your flatmate she's pretty cool. I was wondering if you could give her my number if that's cool with you". There's a chance that this firend (im assuming is platonic right now) may be into you. Are you certain she isnt? Her flatmate may not want to impose. But if you are certain she isnt there's nothing wrong with telling your friend…
/r/seduction07/07/25 04:01 PM
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We all fumble but tbh, it seems like you dodged a bullet in my opinion. She was fishing for attention, needed someone to drag along and she came for you because she knew you were into her. I dont think this would've lead anywhere but you getting used in some ways. In my opinion girls who do this through IG, have doen it to other people. They throw hook in the ocean and see who takes it. Im willing to bet she had others she was doing it too. Your lack of game came off to her like you were ignorin…
/r/seduction03/07/25 02:58 PM
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Dont do it. Do you really want to fuck someone you arent attracted to? Or get yourself a step-kid with someone you arent attrqcted to. Are you that desperate?
/r/seduction01/07/25 12:37 PM
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It happens naturally. It's not something you should force. If you are in college though, id say now's the time to do it because everybody wants experience. Is there a girl in your friend group who likes you or thinks your cute? It's all about how social you are. When you go to parties, are you just hanging out with the bros or are you social with everyone? I bet you are the former. Start branching out at parties, do not depend on friends for social interactions. Grab a girl and start dancing and…
/r/seduction30/06/25 11:25 PM
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It can be both. In terms of good - women will be intrigued by you. It says that other women have noticed how women like to be around you. How you are attractive and can get girls. In terms of bad - you might be attractign the dramatic girls who feel like they can tame you. Good girls look at that and run. It might be energy of how you present yourself. Are you quickly touchy with girls regardless of whether you are attracted to them or not? That might be what they mean, even when you dont realzi…
/r/seduction30/06/25 07:34 PM
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Exactly, and one thing I noticed is that girls can take a joke better than most men. They are so used to being treated like a glass vase that when a guy comes in and gives them friendly banter, treatst them like a bro, they love it. I once called a girl a drake fan in front of her friends (during the whole beef with kendrick). She laughed and her friends laughed and it was a whole thing. I was in with the group and towards the end of the party they all made sure to say goodbye to me.
/r/seduction30/06/25 07:00 PM
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I agree 100% with this comment. One advice I always give is to talk to strangers (guy or girl) because if you cant talk to a guy you just met you wont be able to talk to a girl you just met. That way as a guy you get used to the idea of just walking up to someone and not expect anything more than a pleasent conversation. With men we arent looking for a friend, just a friendly banter. It's kind of similar with women. Dont expect this to end with her number, just friendly banter. As an example, if…
/r/seduction30/06/25 06:41 PM
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It's whatever you both decide. There is no one answer. If you want this to be a casual thing you do once a week type thing. If you want it to be more serious, you do 2+ times a week and gradually increase it as you get closer.
/r/seduction27/06/25 10:29 PM
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Looks arent everything. It’s how you sre approaching women. Charisma is the number 1 thing. Looking good, will get you looks but in the end of the day you need charisma when you talk. Especially the older you get girlspeople get smarter because they start realizing some of the BS. In your post you sound desperate for some action. So i wonder if it is coming off that way when you talk to girls. If you go out and at nights end you think it was a bad night because you didnt get laid then thats not …
/r/seduction27/06/25 01:26 PM
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Tbh, I would say stay if that is the best decision for you not based off of talking or getting girls. It's not so much the gym, it's the mentality you have can lead you to seem desperate when it comes to approaching in bars/clubs. The mentality you have about the gym will translate elsewhere. You are the guy who keeps jumping from bar to bar because there are too many dudes and you are waiting to find a club that has 99% women in it. It comes off as despereate because you are more focused on the…
/r/seduction24/06/25 11:14 PM
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Exactly. I started doing better when i stopped caring about being nice to the women and became my charismatic witty self. When i got a gf it felt like girls were magically wanting to be around me. What i realized was my mentality had changed because now girls i met werent potential mates, they were just another person. So i wasnt afraid to say a joke at their expense (not to offend just because its who i am). Like one time i told a girl she acts like a drake fan in front of her friends. She and …
/r/seduction21/06/25 01:43 PM
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This 100%. It’s a weird way to look at it but girls like confidence. Best way to show confidence is to not care if you wver see this girl again. Go to a bar to have fin with your friends, chat up new people (even guys) and if you are charismatic enough people will follow and want to be around you. Girls arent looking for a ONS, they are looking to have a fun night out with friends. So you gotta be the guy that shows them if they stick around you they will have a great time and if they dont want …
/r/seduction21/06/25 01:33 PM
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I agree. I always say, treat girls like they are bros to a certain degree. A lot of them can take jokes better than men and a lot of them love to be treated like a bro because their whole life guys have been walking on eggshells for them to get them to liek them and treating them like a glass vase. When there's a guy who dishes it to them like theyre a bro, they love it. Some do get offended, but it's like you say, she;s not the only person in the world and if she did get offended you say my bad…
/r/seduction18/06/25 08:34 PM
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It's a fine line. We all want results but the problem is when you make the results your focus, it becomes clear how desperate you are and it throws you off your game. Many guys go in and think "i need to get laid tonight" and make that their goal. They individualize every night and every night they think that. THey dont focus on having a good time they just focus on getting girls. Girls already have their walls up and the way to get it down is to make it clear you arent here to get with them you…
/r/seduction17/06/25 03:32 PM
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I always tell guys. Looks is like icing on the cake. It can get you the look when you walk in but it wont get you the girl. Simialr to an interview in some ways, the worse you look the more you have to wow the interviewer away with your charisma and knowledge. If you go to an interview in sweats, you better be einstein and prove it. But if you go cleanly shaven, in a suit, you still have to prove you sre smart but you dont have to be einstein. Thats what it is when it comes to charisma, show the…
/r/seduction12/06/25 01:43 PM
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I agree. Id say go after the other ones. Again, have fun but remember not every girl or situtation is worth hooking up with. Ive def have learned that the hard way.
/r/seduction10/06/25 04:33 PM
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I dont know what your plans are for this girl but tbh, Id avoid. Sounds like she is your only option right now and there's a chance you like her even if it's a little bit. I wouldnt make this more than a hookup and even then I dont agree with talking to her with those intentions knowing she has a BF. She coudl be playing you and you dont even know it. She might be looking for attention and saying things that keep you on that hook. She is "going to keep you informed"? Wth does that mean? That is …
/r/seduction10/06/25 04:12 PM
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ok ill bite. COuld be a number of things. Yes alcohol and drugs does affect it. So it coudl be that. Could be you are nervous because for the first time somebody is touching you there and you ahve the mental block adults put on you from a young age to never let someone touch you there. It sometiems takes time to get past that.
/r/seduction10/06/25 12:10 AM
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It can, but you also need to be ok with talking to a girl all night and it leading to getting her number and then getting ghosted. You have to be ok with rejection and it comes in many forms even as hidden successes. Put it like this, my friend group was having a debate after a girl in our group said (and I quote) that she "pulled" last night. We asked how the guy was and she said "I didnt sleep with him just got his number". The whole debate was how pulling for men was actually sleeping with gi…
/r/seduction09/06/25 03:20 PM
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Agreed. A key reason is because of options. A guy with options doesn’t fall in love as quickly. In the average case a girl cang et over a guy easier because she knows sh can go out and quickly get another guy if she wanted to. A guy has to work for it.
/r/seduction09/06/25 12:51 PM
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It's just an example. Im not saying that's the only way. Everybody is different. The point of that example was to say that you dont ahve to be so agreeable. Some guys will literally agree with everything the pretty girl says or even if they disagree they pull back as to not offend them. All im saying is treat them like a bro in some ways. It doesnt have to be a voistrous "WTF!?!?!?" if that's not your style it's not. Dont force it. But if with your boys youd grill them over that take, then do si…
/r/seduction06/06/25 10:36 PM
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Girls are just as scared of approaching as guys. THe thing is they can hide behind the fact that society tells them they dont need to approach. If a guy liked them theyd approach. Also girls always have options even when they dont know it. So to them, unless you are an absolute stud they dont feel like they lost the chance because another cahnce will come up with a different guy. Where with us, there are girls I still think about and think "damn I was stupid, why did I not make that happen or pl…
/r/seduction06/06/25 04:55 PM
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You are realizing what alot of people dont seem to realize or dont want to admit. Looks are like icing on the cake. It wont get you the girl, it may get you looks and may make the process a bit easier but in the end of the day it's all about charisma. There are a lot of fat dudes getting girls because they have charisma. How to talk to them is practice. You just need to be ok looking like an idiot at times and failing. One thing I learned was how to recover a fumble. Even the best guys fumble. T…
/r/seduction06/06/25 04:21 PM
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Im speaking from a place where i was where you were at. I got a girlfirend last year. Before that i had a few things but 3-4 years ago i was exactly where you are. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, but you gotta accept change and not play the victim game.
/r/seduction05/06/25 02:42 AM
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I dont think it's true to all women but I think it may be about some. You can flip it to men, there are alot of men who are tolerating verbally abusive or evev shitty behavior from women because the girl is hot and they have a fun time with them when they arent batshit crazy. I have a friend who dated a girl for 4 months (1 month of being unofficial). Here's is everything she did (that I know of or found out after they broke up) - - Very early on. She claimed she didnt have time to be offifical …
/r/seduction04/06/25 09:58 PM
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Mysterious isnt being quiet or in a corner saying "fuck the world". You've mightve seen a bit too many rom-coms. Quiet is the guy who let's other guys get al lthe attention. Leans on friends for conversations at parties, is kind of in the background of everybody. Never takes initiative, etc. Mysterious is the guy who talks but might not give too much info with his words or demanor. He's not going to let the girl think he will bend over backwards for her. He might walk up to her say a few funny t…
/r/seduction04/06/25 05:28 PM
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I agree 100%. I made my own comment but this is it. OP is being a safety net. Girls want to play the cat and mouse game. That's why people like flirting and living their youth. The nice guy removes that game and now the girl is looking at it like "ok we already showed me your cards. You seem nice." Especially in their 20s girls dont feel like thye have to settle down yet so theyll keep guys like that intheir back pocket as safety nets. OP is shwoing them that he will be there for them even when …
/r/seduction04/06/25 04:53 PM
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know that some of you might assume that i am a nice guy just by what i stated , i think that it's true to some point but everyone is a nice guy to some extent, they are just better at hiding it , because every guy that i know who is getting laid constantly doesn't see women more than a sex partner , am i missing something here ?? Your right, everybody is nice to some extent. Where you are wrong is your friends arent hiding it. I was similar to you, I was the nice guy everybody could confide in. …
/r/seduction04/06/25 04:34 PM
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others have given you the advice you are looking for. I will say this based off some of your comments. You are looking for a relationship with this girl whether you want to admit it or not. You think you can be ok with the current situation, but can you really? I dont know you but you need to ask yourself, are you keeping your options open and talking to others? If she was with someone else would you be ok with that? If the answers to these questions is no, I think you should break it off bvecau…
/r/seduction03/06/25 06:14 PM
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I get it, it's about timing like any other line. It's similar to OPs line when he is being too straight forward 10 minutes into an interaction. That same line might sound alot better after 3 hours of dancing and kissing.
/r/seduction03/06/25 05:08 PM
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not every move is created the same. I do agree with what you mean. The reason I drew the scenario was because if you just straight up ask this question when she is 3 feet away, it sounds weird. That's why I say create that phuysical contact, kiss and then make it happen. Ideally you should hjave a backlup plan to kind of nudge her to keep th enight going. That's why I also said that maybe people should have a fun place that closes late or a setup to bring people back to their place.
/r/seduction03/06/25 04:49 PM
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The question puts the ball in her court. Remember girls get shamed for ONS so sometimes being too forward may come off to her like you think she is that type of girl. Again if you just say what you want or ask her to go home with you, it could come out too forward and might even put her in an awkward sitatuon of having to say no. If you ask her this question, she might say "go to bed" and that is ok. You had a good night and even if it didnt end the way you wanted you may get a date out of it an…
/r/seduction03/06/25 04:02 PM
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There is a “too forward”. That line will only work on girls you have had been out with most of the noght and having a great time. Hardly works 10 minutes in. Dont worry ive made same mistake. What a friend of mine taught me was either figure out a post bar/club plan (maybe figure out a bar that closes later that could be fun) or at the end of the night go up to her and literally ask “what are you trying to do tonight?” And get close and maybe even kiss her again. Remember girls get slut shamed f…
/r/seduction03/06/25 02:56 PM
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I can see your point and I agree. I think maybe you were a bit flirty in that situation (or came off that way). I would've just casually said it in a way that made me unavailable. But I do agree, that your friend should've pulled up his pants and done it himself.
/r/seduction30/05/25 08:57 PM
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peak attractiveness depends. Look at a picture of when you were 15-17. You were likely scrawny (or fat), had less confidence, had no style etc. It's why alot of people hate looking at their middle school/high school pics. It was at a itme where they had no money and they wore what their mom bought them. Or they had no sense of style and were tyring werd trends. Now you are likely looking more like a man, you likely are getting in better shape and it shows in confidence. I was at my most confidnc…
/r/seduction30/05/25 08:18 PM
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I say do it. But in my experience I feel like it's best to keep whole group involved instead of singling out one friend. Singling out one frined makes it obvious you like her and she could be taken, she could feel awkard being singled out, etc. Keep everybody involved in a friendly way. Have a good time. One time I walked up tto a group of girls talking about the drake-kendrick beef. I looked at the quietest girl and said she was mad because she was a drake fan. All the girls laughed and the gir…
/r/seduction30/05/25 08:08 PM
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It happens to people during their first time. Us guys dont like to talk about it but many of us have gotten performance anxiety. The thing is when you pick up the protection you are getting in your head. It may be best if you start getting comfortable with the idea of sex maybe have her put it on. If it's still a problem I would say go to your doctor and let them know what is happening. They will likley have you see a urologist after runnning some test. WHo may prescribe you some viagra (or simi…
/r/seduction12/05/25 03:48 PM
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Depends on where. I feel in some countries people are more open to it then others.
/r/seduction09/05/25 08:53 PM
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Depending on where but dating apps can work really well if you travel internationally.
/r/seduction05/05/25 01:58 PM
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They do. It might seem rare because usually most guys go after them first. Ive seen gorgeous guys who dont really chase girls too. A girl will take an hour to respond and theyve already forgotten about her because rhey have a couple other girls to talk to.
/r/seduction17/04/25 12:58 PM
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Sex is something that as kids we are told is bad, you guys are in that age where you guys still have your kid mindset but technically are adults who can do anything and wont get in trouble for having sex. It takes time to get rid of the guilt of having sex. Us guys, we are raised to not have sex you g but we dont really get consequences if we did. Most of our dads encourage it in a weird way. But you need to understand for girls they are told from a young age to avoid it like the plague so they …
/r/seduction15/04/25 09:59 PM
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I would say first be ok with the idea that she is fucking you for fun and may not see a future with you. Im not saying this is most older women but if you want a 50 year old and you are 20s, odds are she has accepted she wont get married (or remarried) but maybe she feels she didnt get the chance to live out her youth whether due to marrying early, having kids, etc. she’s tired of the lack of energy men her age have and realizing old dogs dont want to learn new tricks so she goes younger because…
/r/seduction14/04/25 07:12 PM
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My bad on the american part. But I will say it's similar for many travelers regardless of being american or not. Becuase alot of LATAM people have never been on a plane, so just the idea you have is really enticing. If you are europeon, being europeon is just as rich as being american. But I will stop assuming, what nationality (or region) are you from? ALso when I said white, I didnt mean you were white. Im saying white usually gets more brownie points at least in the LATAM country I was from. …
/r/seduction10/04/25 05:08 PM
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I spent half my childhood in the USA and LATAM so I feel I know more or less how different cultures are. In LATAM at least, AMericans are viewed as rich. America is still land of opportunity to them. Their "rich" relatives come once a year and spend crazy amount of money, come in nice clothes, giving gifts, etc. In poor areas in those countries they want to get to the US by any means necessary. The country that I lived in there was a term that translates to "fuck for the visa". Basically means w…
/r/seduction10/04/25 04:56 PM
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For me I'd say you should befriend women. I would normally not recommend befriedning women you have some interest in. It creates issues for yourself and maybe even for her. It's very easy to fall into the trap of "waiting" or "lingering" for her. Any nice little interaction or night out you think "OMG she looks good maybe today is the night". I am currently dating the girl I was friends with for over a year. I wouldnt say I waited for her. There was not really much attraction there at frist but …
/r/seduction03/04/25 10:44 PM
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I feel like neither story is that bad. They may be funny stories you repeat once or twice but to not "let you live down"? Do your friends hookup a lot? Im willing to be they have stories that they would never tell.
/r/seduction01/04/25 03:34 PM
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Few things. When it comes to clubs especially the music is so loud you can't just wow her with conversation on the dance floor unless you catch her on the side getting drinks or something. Tbh, you just got to go to the middle and dance. The fact you were dancing with someone is great. Women wont make the first move, they want the guy to make the first move. Whether it's a bar or a club you need to go there with the mindset that you are there for a good time regardless of what happens. You are t…
/r/seduction31/03/25 10:27 PM
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Ive been there. Tbh rule of thumb is if you are worried you may look like a creep you likely are not one. Ive noticed creepy gusy dont care to be creepy.
/r/seduction18/03/25 10:00 PM
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I think it depends. It's all pros/cons. Cities have more options but sometimes more options leads people to be more picky. You may get rejected because a girl may feel like a better option could be coming that never comes. Or you may get a number and the girl may ghost you cause she changed her mind. If you can be ok talking to women non-stop until it clicks with one than it could def work in your favor. Just dont expect every weekend to be a fuck fest unless you are that good. Ive never lived i…
/r/seduction18/03/25 09:47 PM
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Thanks, surprised this didnt get more comments or likes. I was friends with my current GF before we got together and recently she admitted that she has never faked it with me becuase I made her feel comfortable and I put time and effort to make her cum. More importantly I dont take it personal when I dont get her off, I understand that sometimes it's just not there.
/r/seduction18/03/25 07:39 PM
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Agreed, I said this in my own comment to the post. Practice makes perfect but if you practice bad habits and dont ever try to do correct form you will have practiced yourself into the perfect bad fuck. There will never be enough trust in a hookup where the girl will give constructive criticism and may even lie about how good it was. So OP may just end up fucking a bunch of chicks and do it the wrong way each time (maybe not). Then when one girl is honest and says he's a bad fuck he wont be able …
/r/seduction18/03/25 05:00 PM
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I would say dont pursue people you arent attracted to. Some people do it, but it's an ego boost to get their numbers up. That way they can say they fucked 30+ girls but they dont say 29 of them were ugly. They act like they were all models. You need to ask yourself, do you want to get better at fucking and have girls orgasm more or do you want to get your numbers up? If you care about the numbers so you can tell the boys you have a high number have at it. But if you actually are tyring to learn …
/r/seduction18/03/25 03:20 PM
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I agree, if you are looking for actual experience and what to do down there, you will likely get it from just fucking one girl consistently. Ive learned more about sex when in relationships than in hookups. Hookups just get the numbers up but first you arent worried about pleasing them, just getting off. Alot of girls dont want to tell a guy they just met that they are doing it wrong because some guys butthurt when a girl gives constructive criticism.
/r/seduction18/03/25 03:02 PM
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I (M 25) first started self-improving (going to the gym, dressing better, eating healthy, practicing self-awareness and increasing my intelligence through books, etc.), my confidence was up to the roof. 4 years later after graduating from Uni, cold approaching over 400 women, making many acquaintances, joinging clubs and hobbies, etc., All of these are great, but to me the number one thing to getting a girl is social skills. You have to know what to say and how to say it. If you are approaching …
/r/seduction14/03/25 11:11 PM
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I see your point and agree somewhat. Women have been historically slut-shamed. So many women are not open to ONS because it makes them look like a slut. Where FwB or even a casual relationship seem less slutty because you at least are getting to know the person, not just fucking someone you just met and will never see again. Also it comes down to our mindset as men in some ways. In general We value less promiscuous women. It's not really about sex for us, it's about the conquest. If we bag a 21 …
/r/seduction12/03/25 06:32 PM
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Few tips: - dont be stiff, try new things but it's ok to not try everything. Im not going to tell you to get high and drunk all the time. But this is the first time outisde of your parents control. Go to parties, dont feel pressured to do anything you dont want to but it's also not the end of the world if you drink, just do it responsibly. The reason I say this is beacuse in college everybody wants to go to parties, if you are jsut staying in your buddies dorm chilling on a friday night girls wo…
/r/seduction10/02/25 07:54 PM
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/r/seduction22/01/25 07:58 PM
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There's 1 million ways to approach a 10/10. You can never know because eveyrone is unique. I would say in general dont put them on a pedestal because everyone has done that to them their whole lives. Then when an attractive guy who they wouldnt give two shits about on a regular day, treats them like they are just anybody else they wonder why you havent fallen for their spell. It's intriguing to them because they have never experienced something like that and it's new. You aren't someone who girl…
/r/seduction21/01/25 08:05 PM
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the fact you are getting dates is a positive. Just be as honest as you can in the first date without showing all your cards. On the first date, Ask them what they are looking for. The ones that say they want something serious, you already know they will have their walls up date 1 and wont have sex unless they gain trust with you which could take a number of dates. Dont say you just want to fuck, that's sounds a bit creepy. It's ok to be unsure of what you're looking for so you can say something …
/r/seduction17/01/25 03:35 PM
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I mean it depends, are you lasting 2 minutes? Is yours micro? For me and my average length i've heard the consensus that 15-20 minutes is good anything more is alot. Ive done a 1 hour+ marathon before. It's nice to have under your belt but it's defenetly alot.
/r/seduction15/01/25 08:02 PM
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You've been together 3 months, you clearly want to be exclusive and she has shown she is interested in it as well. You need to make sure you seal the deal before she leaves. It's ok to bring it up. Tell her "hey I've been thinking about us deleting our apps. I know we havent formally talked about it but I just want to be ou tin the open. I enjoy hanging out with you and I think this could be something good. Id like to be exclusive." See what she says. It sucks because you likely should've had th…
/r/seduction14/01/25 09:08 PM
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I wouldnt say anything. If your just looking to hookup why shoot yourself in the foot. Dont get nervous (nerves kill boners), relax and just go for it. Honestly from what i hear from female friends. Most dudes (even the experienced ones) dont know what they are doing down there. Id read up on how to pleasure a woman. On how to eat her out. Focus on the clit.
/r/seduction10/01/25 09:48 PM
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Go to bars/clubs. In a club, literally go to the middle, see the first single girl dancing that looks attractive and just go for it. If she accepts go for the dance. Ive seen people at clubs literally make out because the guy goes to the middle they dance for 2 minutes and then theyre making out. If bars/clubs arent your thing, learn to like it. They werent my thing but I realzied I just wasnt open-minded about them. I was kind of a stiff. Dont go up to a girl with hopes of hooking up, go up to …
/r/seduction09/01/25 07:33 PM
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Agree 100% with this. If OP takes the friend route, he will just be a lingerer. Someone who just lingers arounda girl they want to date or fuck but tells they girl they are ok with just being "friends" and probably believe it themselves but deep down they really want to hit it. Any BF this girl gets will see right through OP and OP will just be a problem. Any girl OP dates may see it too and he might struggle to get another girl because he has a girl he is putting his energy on as a friend.
/r/seduction06/01/25 07:30 PM
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You will likely fumble more than you will succeed. With time it gets easier and you become more immune to rejection but you have ti go through it to get better. One if my favorite scenes to wuote is from HIMYM. Barney (the womanizer of the group) is celebrating all the girls he’s been able to bang and how he’s the best at getting girls and Marshall (whose body count is 1) tells him that he really isnt that good because if we take the average of girls he flirts with with girls he’s had sex with t…
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:12 PM
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Agree with this, I run into so many posts where guys say "I did everything I was told, lost 100 lbs, have a 6 pack, only dress in fancy clothes, make well over 6 figures and I still can't get a girl". I exagerrated it a bit but you get my memo. These are things that help you look attractive to girls, they help you get more looks when you walk inthe room but they do not get you the girl. It's all about charisma and how you talk. Im sure there's 100 different opinions on what that means but i've n…
/r/seduction03/01/25 05:37 PM
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It's usually hit or miss I feel like. There' a reason why they say catholic school girls are the wildest. Think about it, these girls have been repressed form a young age. Some stay very reserved but others feel the need to rebel against the people who told them they cant be promiscuos. It all depends. There's alot of catholic girls who in their older years who say they lived wild lives when they were young.
/r/seduction03/01/25 05:06 PM
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Yeah in the end of the day I usually just let them have it unless they are being an AH. Just do you. Everybody knows they are likely lieing so no need to be the person that calls it out.
/r/seduction02/01/25 04:11 PM
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Its bad if you make apps your #1 way of meeting women. You can do both (apps and irl). Irl should always be your #1 way, apps should be a secondsry way. The thing about apps is the numbers are against men but a lot of times guys think that if they cant get any in the apps than they are set for failure in the streets so why try? But honestly for the reasons you listed is why men should do irl more. Ive probably have kissed girls who have swiped left on me plenty of times.
/r/seduction02/01/25 02:30 PM
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Agree with the quality vs quantity. I knew guys who had the quantity but if you actually saw some of the girls, they would just fuck anything that moved. Power to them, but they acted like they were don juan and sleeping with models. Some people fuck just to grt the number up and say they fucked.
/r/seduction01/01/25 07:37 PM
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Honestly most guys lie about it. Im sure you did when you were younger and your count wasnt high. The thing is once we get past college age and start increasing our body count we dont feel the need to lie and realize it doesnt matter. Some people (usually the guys who still struggle to get laid) never leave that mindset because when others sre slaying and their count is still at 2 or 3, they feel insecure and feel the need to lie about it. Honestly i just assume most guys lie about their count. …
/r/seduction01/01/25 07:29 PM
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Its never too late. I moved at 26 to my current city.
/r/seduction01/01/25 06:22 PM
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I understand and I do agree it's not picture perfect. Im not telling OP to go use it to get a GF. Im telling OP to go use it to get friends. IN some cities there are groups specifically for people in their 20s/30s and they specify it. I think sometimes groups do a poor job aiming towards a younger demographic but I've been part of a few groups that do a good job aiming towards younger people. I havent been to a meetup since I made friends but one thing I remember is that meetup will tell you the…
/r/seduction31/12/24 09:45 PM
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I moved to a new city a few years ago. Though I wasnt a virgin at the time I woudlnt say I was killing it either. I wanted to redefine my life and I wanted to go out more for a good time and sow some wild oats. I owudlnt say I slayed non-stop but I did decent. First off, if you dont already, try to dress better and grow a beard and keep it groomed. These will not guarantee girls but they help. It's good you are working on your body. If you get a 6-pack dont expect girls to come in herds towards …
/r/seduction31/12/24 08:40 PM
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Dont do it. THat is way too much and girls wont even be guaranteed. Honestly dude, my friend started doing his own pictures and signed up for a photoshop account. He has been doing his own photo shoots and they are coming out really amazing and he just uses his phone. You can easily do this with a buddy and save a ton of money. Also dont rely on the apps to date. If you are posting this it's because you feel you can't get any girls and maybe are relying on the apps too much. I dont know you but …
/r/seduction27/12/24 04:20 PM
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I say go for it. Be safe of course but I think you are kind of counting chickens before they hatch. Has there been any indication these girls are DTF off the bat? Go on the 3 dates and if something happens with at least 1 then great but dont set expectations high. If you can pull all 3 then I think that's great too and can be a nice pat on the back for yourself.
/r/seduction27/12/24 04:01 PM
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I didnt seduce alot, I was somewhat an introvert in college. I didnt really branch out till after plus I was in computer science which drained alot of my time. I was also really focused on school which looking back if I was more focused on having a good time I still would've passed (GPA would've probably not been amazing, but still would've been good) and done way better. Alot of the things I learned after college about talking to girls I wish I had learned before. If you are asking for yourself…
/r/seduction24/12/24 12:11 AM
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I get how you feel. But honestly dude I'd recommend adding Bars/Clubs to that list. I was like you, didnt really like going to bars or clubs, not a huge drinker, etc. But the apps werent working for me and were causing me to have some depression. I fell into the trap of "if im getting rejected in the apps ill get rejected in the real world". And honestly, that is far from true. If you look at the numbers, the apps are not for men at all. Girls get alot more matches than guys do likes. I had frie…
/r/seduction19/12/24 07:54 PM
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Again I was in your place about bars/clubs. Similar thing (i did like the music though). I wanted to just be able to talk to people and not be in a place where i had to scream. I would say be open minded about it. If you get to a place and immediately thing "the music sucks and its too loud", you arent in the right mindset already. If its not your thing it is not your thing and that is fine but at least be open minded about it. Do I lovet hose scenes today? No. But I understood that's where the …
/r/seduction12/12/24 11:08 PM
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There are many reasons this could have happened that I'm still trying to wrap my head around, including but not limited to me only attending an actual university for 2.5 years (went to community college the other 2), not being into the college party/bar scene, and generally bad luck going to a state college with a poor male to female ratio at a time where social skills are at an all-time low due to covid. ALl these reasons are likely valid but let's be honest, that's not all the real reasons. Th…
/r/seduction12/12/24 08:03 PM
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Best way is to work on yourself and try to get your "glow up" sooner rather than later. I didnt get my glow up until I was like 25-26 becaue I was the type that I didnt see the necessity in growing my beard or getting a cool haircut. Now I do and I wish I had done this at 19-20 instead of at 25-26. If you have trusted females in your social cirlce, listen to their style tips. I was told by a friend black was my color so I bought a bunch of black shirts. I was then told backward hats make me look…
/r/seduction14/10/24 04:19 PM
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FwB are a tricky situation because alot of times it becomes a relationship that isnt really a realtionship and the rules arent really put in check. Even if they are you need to go in with the knowledge that they owe you nothing and you are just objects to each other. The second one of you realizes you got the fun and use out of the other, the FwB ends. I think that is what you are experiencing. They had their fun but dont see it going further so they are cutting it short before it gets too far. …
/r/seduction07/10/24 03:47 PM
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Dont do it at work. One guy approaching a co-worker is ok but multiple sounds like recipe for HR disaster because she might feel swarmed. Wingmanning is a skill. It's all about setup. Go out with him one night with that focus. If he has a fear of approaching, approach with him. Best if there are a group of girls (there should never be more guys than girls approaching), and you start the conversation and then you hype your boy up. Find a common ground. If he likes video games and the girl you are…
/r/seduction19/09/24 10:39 PM
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How do you know she knows them well? THey could be acquaintances. This is a tough one because by saying it, it will seem like you vetted her but if you are worried then sounds like maybe your ex is someone that it mightve ended poorly. Tell her that you mentioned to a friend that the girl you were seeing lived in that area and that that the friend said she might know her. Then say that the friend mentioned how she might know an ex of yours and you wanted to make sure she knew in case she was clo…
/r/seduction19/09/24 04:32 PM
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Like others have said, dont take rejection personal. What I realzied alot of the time it has little to do with you and alot to do with the person you ask. Ive had girls give me their numbers at a bar and the next day "ghost" even if we had a grerat night together. They just were having a fun time and thought they wanted it to go further but didnt.
/r/seduction16/09/24 02:47 PM
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I think the approach could work but instead of seeing it as a way to repeat the same thing, see it as a way to work on how you approach. Cold-Approaching is just so you get comfortable so that talking to girls becomes second-nature. Right now you are thinking too much. I think yuo need to get comfortable talking to people in general (guys or girls). At bars approach everyone. You see a guy with a cool shirt, approach him. The reason I say this is because if you can't talk to guys you just met, h…
/r/seduction16/09/24 02:32 PM
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Age doesnt matter that much when cold-approaching. Girls are less shallow about older partners than guys are. My friend is 38 and he goes to bars and flirts with girls in their 20s. He's had about 4 relationships in the past year (serious and casual) and the oldest girl was like 31. Youngest was like 24. The others were like 27-28. As long as you play it off well girls wont care.
/r/seduction15/09/24 06:40 PM
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Yeah this is a tough one because dating in friend groups is alot more dangerous than if she was a random person and you are doing it in 2 friend groups. When you date a friend there was already a mutual likeness and trust as friends that turned into attraction. You cant play the same game you play with a random person because you might hurt a person you care about and the rest of the group may get very defensive of that person and you dont just lose that one friend you may lose the trust of the …
/r/seduction12/09/24 11:52 PM
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Depends on the city. If you got these 4 girls through apps in your previous city, ill tell you that the apps are always different in different cities. Ive had friends tell me they get requests non-stop in one city, but then travel to another and its crickets. Honestly just put yourself out there at bars, nightclubs, etc. If you got 4 girls before im sure you will get it done again. You just gotta put yourself out there and be willing to meet girls. Im sure you know, its a numbers game.
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:36 PM
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Depends on situation, but ideally you should never let the first time go away because depdenign on the girl on how she feels, you may never get another shot (or someone else might take that shot quicker).
/r/seduction11/09/24 05:33 PM
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I was similar to you growing up. I was the tech guy that didnt really go out like that for my clothes and scents. I was never the guy who was out in sweats all the time, but jeans and a shirt was my thing. Then I made some female friends who were into style and I started to care a bit more about my looks. One of my friends told me black was my color so I started to wear more black. Then I wore some cologne and got complimented for it. I had a female friend who took pride in helping guys dress up…
/r/seduction11/09/24 03:08 PM
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I dont think girls are as shallow as guys to how other girls look. They may asume you might be with one of them honestly. Being around girls can help you or hurt you. You just gotta make sure you make it clear you arent with them in that way. See if one of your firends can wing-women. I had a female friend who was a good wingwomen and she got me into alot of girls numbers.
/r/seduction09/09/24 10:05 PM
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This is a random thing to worry about. To me everybody is capable of cheating, some more likely than others. The girl who never goes out and keeps to herself is less likely to cheat but one day someone can sweep her through her feet and in a vulnerable moment can cheat. It's all about probability and if you are ok with certain behaviors. Certain behaviors make it more likely for someone to cheat (guy or girl). If the person is always putting htemselves in position where something can happen then…
/r/seduction09/09/24 07:54 PM
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Honestly Id focus on talking to people in general (guys and girls) and get your social skills back in place. Think about it, if you cant approach a guy and have a good conversation, how can you expect you approach a girl you are hoping to get something from? Also if you just focus on getting with girls, they will notice and it will look like you are desperate. Go for a good time and have a good time. I met my current GF at a meetup and she said what she loved about me most was my ability to just…
/r/seduction09/09/24 07:06 PM
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If you are starting to catch feelings, id recommend getting those feelings in check and keeping this strictly casual. If you arent really hurt by her seeing another guy but want to commit I'd say have that conversation now about exclusivity. Im sure she likes you but she also likes being single and not being tied down. Sounds like you have semi-committed to her and havent really been talking to other girls. Take it as a lesson, never assume exclusivity unless it is agreed upon. I've seen this in…
/r/seduction05/09/24 05:32 PM
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I can tell by your post you are likely someone who walks a narrow path and doesnt really stray from it. I was alot like that too. Honestly id say its ok to stray a little. I was in your shoes later than i wouldve liked. Honestly looking back at those times i definetely tried to be too respectful, never was a risk taker, was in my head too much when i talked to anybody, etc. I think you need to learn to just talk to people and have bullshit conversations. Im someone who when i talk i usually spea…
/r/seduction04/09/24 02:36 PM
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I always see this online. That girls only want models, and treat anyone else as less than. This is your issue, believing what they say online. Honestly I never saw the need to dress nicely. I was the tech guy who just wanted to be in mostly comfortable clothes. I didnt take it to any extremes, like I would still where nice jeans and shirts but with little style. Then I met a girl who said I looked good in black and basically redefined my wardrobe a bit. I basically said "fuck it what do I have t…
/r/seduction29/08/24 03:27 PM
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I think openers are important. It’s very situational and some are better than others. It’s possible to survive a bad opener but you have to be social enough to recover frkm it. An opener really depends on girl and situation (and persons aying it). One of my friends is good at openers and what i noticed he never compliments the girl right away. He will notice any little thing and compliment it. If she has a shirt of a rapper he will go up to her and hype her up and now they are talking about rapp…
/r/seduction28/08/24 06:16 PM
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Its normal. You are at the age where you realize that casual meaningless sex is nice but in the end it didnt accomplish any longterm goals really. From 18-22 prople are in college and horned up and just want to have as much sex as they can because they are horny and society says have sex in college. 22-25 - are the first few yesrs where you are making yournown money and experiencing actual adult nights out so it seems fun to hook up with different range of women. Especially since after college h…
/r/seduction27/08/24 03:01 PM
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Ok agree tk disagree. As for the IG im saying what he shouldve done before hand. What he said was he asked hsi cousin for her IG and then messaged her. I dont know how epople think nowadays but sliding into DMs isnt always taken well unless the girl willingly gave you her IG. What i think he shouldve done is ask the cousin to giver he his number if she was interested. The. The cousin can go and give her his number or ask her if its ok for her to give him his number and them he can take it from t…
/r/seduction26/08/24 06:24 PM
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I understand and agree. I mean in this specific situation I think it's fair to use a mediator because how else is he going to be able to talk to her. Im not saying the cousin should set everything up, but more to tell the girl "hey my cousin enjoyed talking to you and thinks your cool. He's a great guy. Would you mind if I gave him your number so you two can chat?" So that the girl isnt surpised when OP reaches out either. If she says no, then that's fine and OP can keep it moving. The next time…
/r/seduction26/08/24 05:16 PM
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I like this response. I dont think there is a one-way to do it. In my reply to the post I mentioned how he should've maybe used the cousin as a mediator and matchmaker. Basically pass your info onto the cousin, have your hype him up a bit and even ask the girl if she would be intereted in just a date with him or getting to know him and if its ok if she gives OP her number. She trusts the cousin. he could've used that. At least that's how I would've played it. But I do like your resposne alot too…
/r/seduction26/08/24 04:55 PM
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I had ended up asking my cousin if she was single (which she is) and got her Instagram from her which I then followed her and said “Hey it’s (my name), (cousins name) cousin, was nice meeting you the other night. I had wanted to ask you before I left but I fumbled tbh lol but was wondering if you’re single cause I want to get to know you better” The message was not great. You basically told her you werent confident and immediately asked her out on a date when she probably has no clue who you rea…
/r/seduction26/08/24 04:51 PM
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You just got to assume that when you see someone, they have a roster of others. SO if you are making her your everything early on she might be creeped out a bit because in the early stages girls arent looking for their forever guy. They are testing to see if you could be that guy but are also bouncing between guys. Thats how dating works. If you are treating her like a queen from day 1, it may come off as if you want a GF ASAP where she might be in a place where she isnt even sure if she wants t…
/r/seduction22/08/24 05:40 PM
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Hard to say without exact details. Im going based off one of your replies to another commenter a bit but is he socially awkward? You said he doesnt like looking like a creep so he comes off too nice (that was my problem). I thik he should remove that mentality from hismind. If you are worried about looking like a creep, you are likely not a creep. I have a GF now but I did suffer from the nice guy image. You just gotta be a bit of an asshole sometimes. When I mean asshole I dont mean disrespect …
/r/seduction22/08/24 03:19 PM
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Dude this makes no sense. You are trying to get something serious before leaving and hoping the girl stays loyal for the month you are gone. Two weeks isnt enough time to stay loyal or be serious with someone to wait a month. If a girl told you she was looking for something serious but was leaving for a month would you wait and stay loyal? Likely not, so why are you expecting her to do it? If you meet a girl who is willing to wait but doesnt want to fuck until you get back but then your month aw…
/r/seduction21/08/24 04:51 PM
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Good for you for looking for help within first week of college. I will say this, the 4 years will go by quickly so take advantage now. You will never see this type of ratio in your life afterwards. Take advantage of every weekend now that you are young to go out and have a good time. Now to answer your question, I think you need to get less nervous around this idea and get more comfortable talking to people in general (guys and girls). Girls can sense desperation. Dont be nervous around the idea…
/r/seduction15/08/24 04:57 PM
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Ok so you kind of have to act fast since its your last year and not take any weekend for granted. Unfortunately college is very cliquey and once groups are established freshman year it is very hard to join another group. College is also transactional, you will get friends and get into parties only if you have something to offer (girls ratio, bottles, ways to get into parties, etc). I think what you need to do is go out to the bars even if its by yourself. Invite your friends but if they go dont …
/r/seduction14/08/24 08:53 PM
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Ill try to answer: Why the fuck are they on a dating app if they're trying to sell themselves? They should be on backpage or something Because there are many desperate men in these apps. You are doing well but there are a ton of men who struggle in these apps. If you look at the data men hardly get any likes a month while women get hundreds a month. Dating apps cause a lot of self-doubt to men and some might be at a low point where they would consider it. Think about it if they are in the apps i…
/r/seduction07/08/24 11:33 PM
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You say she is attractive and knows it, it's likely she likes giving guys mixed signals and most guys have entertained it her whole life. I knew a girl similar to this in HS. She was somewhat the ugly duckling and when puberty hit her she got really attractive and guys (even a grade or two older) noticed. I remember a few times she got very flirty with me and being very invitive to do things with me. As a 16 year old boy I was going to take my shot if she was opening that door but then the secon…
/r/seduction05/08/24 04:06 PM
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I dont think there is anything to overcome. Whether she is telling the truth or not my response is usually "have a good night". Depending on the conversation I may stick around the conversation for a few more minutes but I dont expect anything to come out of it but a pleasent and fun conversation. For me once I hear that line that is not something im too interested in overturning.
/r/seduction05/08/24 03:28 PM
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It's only really happened to me once. I was dancing with a girl and he pulls her away. After a few seconds being confused I grabbed got in the middle. AT this point I wasnt gonna fight for a girl but I was def not going to let this guy have her. So she left becuase she didnt want to get in the middle of this situation, I told the guy to fuck off and he left.
/r/seduction02/08/24 07:05 PM
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I'd say he's good looking. He ws in the army and still has a good physique (mostly slim and with good definition. I wouldnt call him muscular). I wouldnt call him tall (maybe like 5'10" at the most) and we live in a city where there are many people over 6 ft. But outside of that he is very social with men and women. I went to vegas with him and I say him befriend everybody and get invited to multiple parties.
/r/seduction31/07/24 04:33 PM
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Might not be the right sub (maybe relationship_advice can help) but I will answer. First off, you need to learn to defend yourself to this guy. As guys we do make jokes against our friends but there is a clear line to when it's just a funny light-hearted joke among men to being the butt of someone's jokes. I have a friend similar to yours, likes making people the butt of his jokes. Few weeks back he tried doing it to me. First 2 jokes I laughed and let it slide but after the second joke I person…
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:55 PM
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I have a friend who is 37 and looks 28. He does well. Girls sometimes approach him (he's got a good build) and every girl he has hooke up with this year has been under 30 (maybe 1 was like 31). It's not that creepy, it just depends on how you make it work and how social you are. My friend is the type who can go anywhere and make a bunch of friends.
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:12 PM
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To a certain degree girls dont like inexperienced men but its not like they are super shallow. Especially at your age. You act like you know completely nothing. Trust me if you can get one of those unatteactive girls you fuck to orgasm, you can get an attractive girl to orgasm. A pussy can be complicated but its not that complicated, stimulate the clit if you want her tonorgasm is one of the top things to know. Dick in pussy is commin knowldge. Fingering is too. Try tongue tricks around both are…
/r/seduction31/07/24 01:23 AM
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It's your choice, but I think you have a weird view of what girls think. It's true that girls dont like inexperienced men, but let's be honets it's not tht crazy or hard. Most of my female friends have told me that most guys theyve been with have no idea what theyre doing down there. And the worst thing they see from men is they assume they know and dont communicate. Just read a few articles on pleasuring women, try them out, try what works an dwhat doesnt work. Most important, ask the girl what…
/r/seduction30/07/24 11:19 PM
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To me more than 5 is a crowd but even then divide and conquer is the best way if you are going out with more than 3. More than 3 approaching same crowd of girls just seems like swarming.
/r/seduction29/07/24 04:12 PM
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im 29 but One of my friends is 37 and we had this discussion as he is very into these types of conversations. Basically he said it was easier 10-15 years ago to just go out and get a girl's number before social media became such a huge staple in society. Where back then you still needed charm and confidence but if you earned a good living, had a good career, a type of post-grad degree (like a Master's) got you some interest. Nowadays with degrees being so devalued due to high percentage of peopl…
/r/seduction25/07/24 07:47 PM
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Dude even then if you dont want tk make her your gf, you still have to show interest. Unfollowing her and messaging her weeks later shows no interest on your end at all. She was long over you.
/r/seduction25/07/24 03:56 AM
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Ok so this was hard to read but here is what I got: you met a girl and got her social Few weeks went by and you guys had some conversation but barely got deep into it because you unfollowed her to focus on school You added her back and found out she unfollowed you and are unsure why she did? (-_-) You send another message and then unfollow again. you added her again and saw that she read the message 2 weeks ago. Now you want to know if you should hit her up. If I got this completely correct then…
/r/seduction24/07/24 11:10 PM
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There might be interest but for whatever reason she is being flaky. I'd keep it open but move on. You made your intentions clear and she hasnt made it much of a priorty. Unless you think you could pull soon I wouldnt bother too much. Im guessing you dont want to make this girl a GF at this point because if she is flaky for date number 1, why would you want her to be a GF? Plus you just got out of a relationship and likely want to be single for a bit. You might need to understand and accept that …
/r/seduction22/07/24 05:16 PM
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Yeah ill get more in depth with what i did. Im not saying im raking but i did better than before. I went to events to meet people. Its not just about going to these events or even talking to people, its about getting comfortable approaching strangers. Meetup app was one i liked. Then when i went out to bars i approached girls and even if i struck out i went to the next girl.
/r/seduction22/07/24 02:42 PM
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I went for a free session once and honestly i didnt see the point of it. I was in therapy and she basically told me the same thing the therapist tells me. Go out and talk to people. The inly difference is that the coach can be more straight up with you and give you ideas as the coach arent held to the same legal standards as therapists.
/r/seduction22/07/24 01:57 AM
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Yeah that's not confidence to me. To me it sounds like he likes that he has that upperhand on you. Confident men will hype you up and be happy when you get some because they know how hard it is to do. The second you have the upperhand he has issues? I know someone like that. Growing up he got almost every girl. When one of us started to get girls he couldnt just be happy and had to upstage you. One time I heard he cheted on his gf because he was out with a friend and the friend was getting girls…
/r/seduction19/07/24 03:09 PM
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I agree. Once you get good at looking at subtle signs you get good at knowing what works and what girls will be interested. FOr me if I approach a girl I can tell within the first 30 seconds if she's into me or not. If she's not I might say one or two things to turn it around but if she is jut being bland I say have a nice night and go by my day.
/r/seduction17/07/24 09:27 PM
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The league thing was an analogy. Who cares if they are out of your league or not? Do you want to just bang models or bang anyone you think is attarctive? Talking to a 10/10 is just for confidence boost and if it works out then great if not then all the other girls just seem eaier to talk to. Getting rejected destroys confidence for you because you take rejection too seriously. Getting rejected doesnt make you less than anyone else. To use a sports term, you have to fail many times before you sta…
/r/seduction17/07/24 09:12 PM
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Exactly, OP is just negative. I used to be like this too and it wasnt till i just said “fuck it” and started talking to everyone that i started to do better. Honestly walking up to a girl and getting rejected gives me a confidence boost for the next girl because i know by takking to one girl at a bar i did better than 80% of thee guys there.
/r/seduction17/07/24 08:06 PM
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I get what you mean but again what hurts to try. You are afraid of rejection (most of us are) but once you get past that it doesnt hurt at all. Honestly there are times i approach a 10/10 at a bar. I know she’s out of my league and wont entertain it but what do i have to lose? She says no. Even if she says no it creates a confidence boost for me because i just talked to the hottest girl here while 80% of the guys in the room havent talked to one girl all night. Also it serves as practice too. If…
/r/seduction17/07/24 08:05 PM
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Because its a numbers game. If you actually did the numbers of people who get laid alot, they talk to many girls to get that one yes. Its how it works. Their success rste is probably like 5%. Even if your success is 1%, thats 10 girls a year if you talk to 1000 girls a year. Why sre you assiming this “normie” chick wouldnt entertain it? Sure maybe most of those types of girls wouldnt but there are exceptions and she may not be as shallow as you think. Just from your post your mindset is too nega…
/r/seduction17/07/24 07:48 PM
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It's going to be tough because you are young and people feel weird around people who are less than 21 (especially if your age ends in teen). So you need to look less and less young. I'd say (if you can) grow a beard and keep it shaped up. Beards will make you seem older. Learn to have more mature conversations. If you are still having f-boy converations, women might just have the ick. Remember there is a reason most women in their 20s like older men, it's cause they are tired of f-boy onversatio…
/r/seduction17/07/24 03:34 PM
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Honestly just accept that this is going to happen. When you meet girls at bars and get their numbers, most of the time it means very little. Sometimes they give it out to be nice, other times it's just their drunk selves thinking it was a good idea and then the next day they feel differently. I have female friends who have told me they exchange numbers with guys at bars but then the next day when they are sober they realize they enjoyed talking to the guy but its not something they really want t…
/r/seduction16/07/24 04:29 PM
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Im assuming family members mean parents, uncles, aunts (older relatives) and maybe even your cousins. It does feel weird to do it but honestly dude just do it. Your dad will like it, your mom might feel weird but who cares she wants you to be happy its just weird to realize her boy is growing. Your cousins dont care either. Honestly if you think you have a shot then do it. Dont make the mistake of waiting for the perfect opportunity to meet someone. Because then you will just start making excuse…
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:21 PM
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First thing ill say is remove the line about kids in high school (and similar phrases that make you feel like shit) from your thoughts. Its fucking up your mindset and doing more harm than good to you. I was in a similar situstion but ill be honest i got past this at a younger age (early 20s) but i still felt how you felt. Its not too late but first you need to change mindset. Second practice makes perfect. My recomendation is to put yourself in situstions to meet people (guy or girl). If you ar…
/r/seduction14/07/24 08:36 PM
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I think you should find people who enjoy your lifestyle. Sounds like you are going for people who find that lifestyle fun and at 22 people want to enjoy that lifestyle now before they settle down. That's why you are experiencing this. I would never tell you to do something you dont want to. If you dont find it fun you odnt find it fun. I was like you didnt smoke, drink or club. I had personal reasons for it and I also just didnt find it fun. But as I got older I realized that I was missing out o…
/r/seduction12/07/24 05:54 PM
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If they are your friends, i doubt thats what they want. Im assuming you are a guy. guys grill each other for any little thing, even at that age. It becomes less of a thing after college but around that time when you talk to a girl guys want to act a fool just to be funny. Its not to sabotage you or anything. Now if you do feel like they are sabotaging and these srent your friends then it could be they are. Some guys are petty and dont want to see you succeed but in my opinion guys who can get gi…
/r/seduction10/07/24 05:09 PM
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How old are you? I was similar as a teen and college-age student. Hearing friends go "oh shit he's flirting" or having that attention made me nervous. But in the end of the day look at it like this, most of those guys are happy for you and wish they were in your position. Youre just getting in your own head.
/r/seduction10/07/24 04:31 PM
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I lost mine way after most of my college friends had lost theirs. At the time it really hit me how late I was to the party but looking back at it I wish I hadn't stressed myself so much about it. I really thought that having a gf wasn't in the cards for me. The more you stress about it the less likely it will happen and honestly when I finally did it, there were no fireworks or anything crazy happening. I woke up the next day and didn't feel much different. I will say this (and I know this is ha…
/r/seduction10/07/24 04:25 PM
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I don't think this is as controversial as you think. Women get 100+ likes on dating apps because guys bascially swipe at everything. My cousin once told me that he looks at dating apps like fishing. Just throw the net in the ocean and see what you get, then any matches you get just send them a text and see who responds. Men get less because women are more careful on who they swipe. I've had female friends tell me that they worry about meeting a guy from dating apps becaue you can't get a really …
/r/seduction10/07/24 03:39 PM
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Force yourself is a strong word but see it more as getting yourself comfortable with it. I didn't grow up as a bar-goer. By the time I decided to try it out I hardly any friends and the few I had didn't want to go out to bars with me as they were in relationships and past going to bars. I was barely sociable. I tried "forcing" myself to bars by myself but I just didnt feel comfortable. My advice for you is to try to get friends in general. Go to meetups (Meetup app worked for me) and when you ge…
/r/seduction09/07/24 07:20 PM
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Agreed. I see so many posts of people who just come in and say "hey I don't have friends. Can't make a conversation, how do I get a GF?" Again it's about just being comfortable talking to anybody. One way my GF became impressed with me was because we met at one of these events and she said she loved how I just jumped from person to person and was very social. I wasn't trying to get with her I was just trying to have fun. If you go into a situation with the idea of getting a GF (or getting a girl…
/r/seduction06/07/24 12:17 AM
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You can make it work out but honestly (and this is an approach I had to take) you need to learn how to talk to people before you can talk to girls. If you are introverted I would say go out to events designed for people to meet and talk to everybody (guys and girls). Try networking events, meetups, etc. The meetup app is my favorite app for this but beware it's only good in big cities and every month there is probably 3-4 good events the rest are trash. If you can't even make a conversation with…
/r/seduction05/07/24 05:02 PM
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It depends on the girl. Happeend to me once early in my dating life where I waited to make a move and lost my chance. I'd say don't wait past 2nd date. First date if you can get it then go for it.
/r/seduction14/06/24 04:40 PM
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Not sure what could be going on but if you are making sexual jokes on the first date then maybe the problem is how you are presenting yourself and talking to people. You can be yourself but also don't overdo it. It's like an interview in a way. You show your best self and once they get to know you and become more comfortable with you then you can bring the jokes in. Just speak on interests, and things they like to do.
/r/seduction14/06/24 03:38 PM
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Sounds like you want to make this girl exclusive but are worried about looking like you waitednfor her. If you didnt care about making this girl exclusive, just have some fun and put a rubber on (just in case). I had a buddy who was messing around with a girl and later found out he wasnt her only fuck buddy around that time. Thankfully he got tested and came out good.
/r/seduction11/06/24 08:51 PM
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I dont hate the idea, but just dont expect it to go anywhere. You are at an airport and ideally half the people there arent even from the same place you are (assuming you are in your hometown airport). And everybody is just trying to focus on getting somehwere. Use it as a way to just get comfortable talking to strangers. An airport is a anxious place to approach someone cause the vibe is everybody wants to be left alone and try to get to their flight (or waiting anxiously for their flight). Sim…
/r/seduction11/06/24 05:17 PM
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Dude, alot of us have been there. Especially as guys, before our first time we think we have to lose it soon. Then when we hear all our friends have been losing it so we get desperate, like you don’t want to be the last person on the island. Youre experiencing a version of post-nut clarity. You were horny, saw a girl willing to do it with you but didnt take anything else into consideration. Once you came you realized you werent really into this girl but since it was your first experience you cha…
/r/seduction04/06/24 07:08 PM
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You are what pretty boy privilege looks like from the outside. Don't compare yourself to your friend. I promise you he is an outlier. One of my cousins is like this, he seems to get every girl. He is well dressed, works on his body, grooms well, etc. He is not ugly by any means. He's about 5'10" but we are also from a town where seeing someone 6 ft is kind of rare. We'd go out with him and he'd immediately get looks from multiple women. One time he ran into a girl he worked with whenwe all went …
/r/seduction04/06/24 05:35 PM
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I mean you kinda said no (glad you salvaged it). it's ok if that's not what you want and even if you dont want to waste time and money on a date but even with FWB there has to be some interaction. Don't take her out on fancy dinners but maybe take her out somewhere chill (bar or something). Even for FWB you gotta get the vibe from the other person.
/r/seduction04/06/24 03:42 PM
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You should define that before hand. As a guy we will assume sex might be part of it. Also if you see he brought a condom dont be alarmed (unless he pulls it out and is making his move), as guys we always want to be prepared on the 0.001% chance it goes that route. If you trust him enough to being him home then odds are he has shown he is a trustworthy guy and wont do anything unless you make it clear
/r/seduction30/05/24 11:13 PM
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To take this a bit on the financial side, dont waste all your money on something that depreciates in value. You have a 20 year old car, get a decent 5 year old car that can get you places and looks good enough. A spare 30k at 22 years old is amazing and can set you up better. Dont fall in the new car trap because the new car smell goes away pretty quickly and once the newer model is out your car will quickly look old. Let's say in 5 years the BMW is no longer doing it for you because it's old an…
/r/seduction23/05/24 02:34 PM
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Quiet and less flirtatious girls make great GFs in my opinion. Even if it take a bit more of work on your end to get her, it's nice to know you are with a girl that doesnt need the attention from other men or care to entertain it. I dted a girl who ws flirtatious and even though I trusted her and the flirtyness with other guys ended after we got together, we had different definitions as to what was ok when you are in a relationship.There was No cheating but there was plenty of long bear hugs wit…
/r/seduction17/04/24 03:49 PM
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Its not about being a “bad boy”. Its more about not putting women (or people in general) on a pedestal. If your meeting girls at a bar, alot of gurls like the back and forth banter. Dont look at this girl as a potential future romance, look wt her like someoneyou will likely never see again so why are you not taking risks? You dont have to disrespect her, but girls at bars like anchallenge. They are there for a good time out and to act like they did in college. They arent there for a BF, if you …
/r/seduction10/04/24 06:37 PM
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First off, dont quickly fall in love with people you barely know. You talk about this girl like it’s a relationship straight from the notebook. When i first resd the first few sentences i thought you had known this girl for years. Maybe she did have some interest for you but sounds like you probably scared her away. Sencond, rejection is normal. You will get rejected more and more. It’s about keeping your head high and going after the next one. Use this as a pearning experience, when you met a g…
/r/seduction21/03/24 10:16 PM
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Id say dont put too much importance on losing it. People sense desperstion and honestly you might put too much pressure on yourself that the day it happens you might get “stage fright” if you know what i mean. Some of the advice i heard here is valid (gym, personality, etc) but that takes time and effort. Yes a smoking bod helps your confidence and will sttract owmen more easily. But it takes time to get it. My advice is this, you gotta learn to socialize with people in general. From the post i …
/r/seduction21/03/24 10:10 PM
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Ups and downs to both. Whatever works for you. The pros of big cities are that if you are a guy who regularly pulls in a big city. Options are endless. The con is that becaue options are endless sometimes you might give up on a sure thing because in your mind there might be someone better. It's like dating apps. If you only get 10 swipes a day, you dont want to waste it on the wrong person so the idea there might be someone better makes you swipe left. Guys and girls in big cities think like thi…
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