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Their logic is that men are privileged and woman are opressed, so equality is giving women the same rights men already have. The exception to that, according to them, is when the opression of women hurts men too, so by fighting opression against women they believe they fight opression against men too. That's their dogma, everything you tell them will be read according to that. No facts can make feminists review that position
/r/MensRights17/03/15 07:52 AM
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Boys that expect to be put on a pedestal will fall very hard. People are much less benevolent to men regarding this kind of bullshit.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 07:37 AM
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We should treat feminism the same way we treat christianity and other religions. We can't expect religious people to really talk critically about some issues, and even though there are many problems that originate from religion, we can't really propose to ban it without sounding antidemocratic. But we can oppose the political activism of those groups of people based on the principle that we live in a secular state.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 05:50 AM
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I agree. I don't have the corage to support that movement though. Just advocating for men's rights is the best I can bring myself to do.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 05:33 AM
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Feminism and religion have a lot to learn from each other. This article is quite biased and doesn't allow for a productive diologue between the two
/r/MensRights16/03/15 05:22 AM
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How can feminism be for equal rights and at the same time blind to discrimination against men?
/r/MensRights15/03/15 01:21 AM
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If being less able to defend yourself was to count as an agravant in cases of homicide, then the law should also include elders, children and disabled people. Besides latest numbers of homicides in Brazil shows that male victims are 91.6% of cases and increasing, while the rate of female victims is decreasing
/r/MensRights12/03/15 05:16 AM
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Supposing that men and women comit domestic violence on similar rates, or even supposing that looking at cases of domestic violence in terms of victim and agressor helps increase the cases of domestic violence instead of fighting them, then this law is doing more harm than good o the problems it aims to solve
/r/MensRights11/03/15 01:27 AM
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This article links to many important studies that didn't find great gender disparity in cases of domestic violence and discusses some methodological problems in the ones who did: http://whiteribbon.org/domestic-violence-research/the-corruption-of-research-on-domestic-violence/
/r/MensRights11/03/15 01:23 AM
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Many issues that MRAs discuss affect men wether they are gay or not. For example, the justice system giving longer sentences to men than to women for the same crimes as someone already said here. Another example would be public spendings to fight diseases that affect only men being less than the spendings on diseases that affect only women. Gay man are also not immune to the phenomena of male disposability in our culture also, since if he is suffering people are also less likelly to empathise wi…
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:31 AM
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The men's rights movement should exclude no one. I'm sure there are already very important MRAs that are gay
/r/MensRights10/03/15 09:06 AM
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If you could send the link to those studies in social psychology about feminist atitudes and behaviour I would be very grateful. I would also be glad to read your study when it is finished
/r/MensRights08/03/15 03:33 AM
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It is important to criticise feminism in some contexts, but sometimes it is best to focus on men's rights issues
/r/MensRights24/02/15 10:47 PM
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I agree, but is there really any point in challenging the belief that women should be cherished and loved and supported? What you suggested about quoting reliable sudies and facts and keeping your cool should help defending men's rights without entering into needless controversies about benevolence towards women
/r/MensRights24/02/15 10:39 PM
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All the issues you mentioned fall under promoting equal rights for everyone before the law. And promoting equal rights for everyone before the law is for sure a worthy cause. When I mentioned not criticising female privileges that don't harm men I meant things that are not legal issues, like, we probably shouldn't criticise too harshly things such as women's bodies being considered more beautiful than men's, or chivalry or people being more open to accepting women expressing their feelings.
/r/MensRights24/02/15 10:31 PM
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I agree with almost everything you said. But I think the complete abolishment of gender roles is more detrimental to our freedom than the existence of some kind of gender roles. I'm not claiming that gender roles will ever be the perfect actualization of our biological tendencies, and I believe there will always be space to criticise them, but that doesn't mean doing away with gender roles is the alternative were we can get most freedom, specially because I don't think that is even possible. I b…
/r/MensRights24/02/15 08:26 AM
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First you said men evolved to protect women and priorize women's well being over their own. Then you proceeded to claim that women evolved to prioritize protecting themselves, and so were more likelly to engage in agressive behaviors reacting to a perceived treat to their well being. Then you linked it to women who commit domestic violence. Then on your response to me you said men are more likely to be the perpetrators of domestic violence, in a ratio of 2 to 1. Don't you see a contradiction the…
/r/MensRights22/02/15 01:54 AM
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Data about domestic violence shows that men and women are just as likely to be perpetrators of domestic violence. According to your reading women should be more likelly to perpetrate this kind of violence, how do you explain that?
/r/MensRights21/02/15 06:57 AM
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I'm not a specialist on the men's rights movement, but I do know they work towards correcting misinformation feminists spread due to ideological reasons. And having access to truth helps women as well. MRA's also work towards the deinfantilization of the social representation we have of women, and feminism many times reinforces that representation.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 01:58 AM
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Repression of men's sexuality hurts men and repression of women's sexuality huts men too. Many feminists would be less radical if they got a regular dose of dick
/r/MensRights15/02/15 07:08 AM
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Repression of men's sexuality hurts men and repression of women's sexuality huts men too.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 07:06 AM
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It takes a lot of activity for women to be passive. Even if for the guys that have fantasies about being in charge it is very important for them that women enjoy themselves too. Besides data from the relationship site ok cupid reveals that women are more likelly to get their messages responded than men when they start an interaction.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 07:00 AM
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The point is not to subject women to the same injustices men suffer, and that is what those doble standards posts look like to feminists or people unfamiliar with the MRMs good intentions. The point is also not to make feminists stop hating men, in the same way if we were talking about racism our aim would not be to make people stop being racists, at least the short term one, but to make sure they get properly punished when they expressed racist behaviour. Crying doble standars can be quite irra…
/r/MensRights15/02/15 06:43 AM
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I don't think that's how you deal with crazy people. When you are talking about men's rights or any heterodox idea, most people's spontaneous attitude is to try to find a way to disregard and ignore everything you have to say. When you mention, for the sake of making a point, reducing women's rights to what men have access to they hear nothing else. Besides, for men's rights advocates, when men are subjected to a form of injustice and women aren't, the point is to make men not suffer injustices …
/r/MensRights15/02/15 06:21 AM
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I don't think that's how you deal with crazy people. When you are talking about men's rights or any heterodox idea, most people's spontaneous attitude is to try to find a way to disregard and ignore everything you have to say. When you mention, for the sake of making a point, reducing women's rights to what men have access to they hear nothing else. Besides, for men's rights advocates, when men are subjected to a form of injustice and women aren't, the point is to make men not suffer injustices …
/r/MensRights15/02/15 06:20 AM
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Problem is that people that use the notion of objectification imply that women can't be the object of sexual desire by men and be treated as a subject at the same time. And the opposite is true, we are more likelly to treat as a subject people we are atracted to.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 06:20 AM
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I hadn't seen your comment. I agree that the way feminists use the word objectification is many times to demonize behaviours that are not in themselves wrong.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 06:12 AM
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I don't think that's how you deal with crazy people. When you are talking about men's rights or any heterodox idea, most people's spontaneous attitude is to try to find a way to disregard and ignore everything you have to say. When you mention, for the sake of making a point, reducing women's rights to what men have access to they hear nothing else. Besides, for men's rights advocates, when men are subjected to a form of injustice and women aren't, the point is to make men not suffer injustices …
/r/MensRights15/02/15 05:58 AM
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I mostly agree, but I think in movies and things like that male violence against women should be less of a taboo.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 12:32 AM
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I think it is perfectly acceptable expressing physical atraction. I even think objectification is not always a bad thing.
/r/MensRights15/02/15 12:21 AM
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Agreed
/r/MensRights15/02/15 12:20 AM
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By portraying the cause of your conflicts with people as being that they feel stunned by your brilliance already makes me think there are other causes for such conflicts.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 09:30 PM
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I don't know how to solve bullying, but I think at the very least it can occur less frequently than it does today. I also think it is easier to imagine a society where everyone is equally respected independently of the gender roles they adopt to themselves than to imagine a society without gender roles
/r/MensRights09/02/15 08:16 PM
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I agree that people who don't conform to gender roles should be just as accepted and respected as those who do, but I don't think that the most efficient way of getting to that is doing away with gender roles. The study suggests that men as a group will always behave differently than women as a group, and I can't see how that could be prevented from leading to the formation of social representations of what men are like and of what women are like. I also can't see why go through all the trouble …
/r/MensRights09/02/15 07:05 AM
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I just got banned from r/feminism with this post
/r/MensRights09/02/15 07:03 AM
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It is a very strong claim that men mistreating women can be derived from something that is wrong with masculine gender roles in our culture. I disagree even with this claim. Specially when you consider that masculinity is not limited to the gender roles society creates to represent what it means to be a man, it also includes biological factors and predispositions which are unavoidable. But even the feminist dogma that gender roles are a constraint to our freedom is criticisable since a study con…
/r/MensRights08/02/15 06:53 PM
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Most men don't suffer harassment in the same way as women, and when they do they are normally able to deal with it much better than the usual feminist. Call it sexism against men if you will, but men are normally just that awesome. And if women can normally get away with being completelly imature in this aspect the solution for true equality is not to make men entitled to the same kind of immaturity. That's what feminists react against. That being said, of course you are not oblidged to answer p…
/r/MensRights08/02/15 05:22 PM
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According to christina hoff summers when women run for a political post she is just as likelly as men to be elected, but less women chose to do so. She says so in this lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_t701RfOEM
/r/MensRights07/02/15 07:22 PM
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Your point is correct.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 07:08 PM
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I had little success trying to start a discussion about any unorthodox idea on my facebook page, and that includes talking about the men's rights movement. I don't try that much though. But I do answer posts of other people talking about sex and gender and feminism, and even though I am a very polite person I have at times been met with strong resistence. There are probably some groups on facebook about philosophy and related matters where you could probably find a similar place to discuss as wh…
/r/MensRights07/02/15 07:04 PM
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The guy did a bad job interviewing her. Karen said that she is for equal rights for everyone before the law, irrespective of gender. What she doesn't concede is that we can call that feminism. He then tried to make her concede that feminists made an important contribution so that women had more rights, Karen's position here is that feminist influences also promoted and promotes injustices and that we can't separate one thing from the other. Karen also didn't express herself clearly enough. In ma…
/r/MensRights05/02/15 05:05 PM
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I heard it is a wonderful book. Thanks for remembering his work
/r/MensRights05/02/15 06:07 AM
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The story says they die, but I think this is a metaphor for her rejecting them
/r/MensRights05/02/15 06:02 AM
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I agree. They are good stories. Of course there are always things to criticise, but they are still worth reading
/r/MensRights04/02/15 06:20 AM
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Diferent gender roles are a part of true equality. Here is an interesting video of christina hoff summers about that. What is your opinion on it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3JuaIg99X0&index=1&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd
/r/MensRights04/02/15 06:13 AM
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here: http://pinkmonkey.com/dl/library1/story149.pdf
/r/MensRights04/02/15 06:11 AM
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Men and women don't use the same criteria to chose a potential partner. And if a guy's looks empowered him as much as a woman's looks empowers women they would be spending just as much money on clothes and beauty products, and that is just not the case. I also like to believe that women's criteria to chose who they find attractive is not something evil. So, when I hear people saying "women will never love you, they only want men as apliances" I see this as a very limited and biased view of human…
/r/MensRights31/01/15 07:23 AM
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Which article are you refering to? I've read the ok cupid one, but I don't know if that's it. Can you provide the link to the article you are talking about?
/r/MensRights31/01/15 06:33 AM
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If you consider the situation in a purely rational way you may argue that gender roles are dispensable for survival, but in a situation of crisis people's needs for emotional support and recognition becomes higher, and the risks of challenging stablished social conventions also become higher with less potential gains from doing so.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 05:54 PM
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Many Puas say that women like confident men, but they don't really explain why, and maybe even them themselves don't know. Whatever logic makes this work also makes women angry when it doesn't, and women call that entitlement. Freud called that penis envy.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 07:28 PM
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I'm using the wikipedia definition of sexism as "prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender". I claim discrimination simply means treating as different, not necessarily treating worse or excluding someone. I also claim that treating people diferently based on their gender is sometimes necessary. Even so every different treatment of people based on their gender is already labeled as sexism, and as unjust and condenable
/r/MensRights20/01/15 05:25 PM
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I agree.
/r/MensRights20/01/15 05:51 AM
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To claim that you would have to claim that every discrimination or different treatment of people based on their gender is unjust, which is not the case. For example, there are more clothes stores for women than for men. This means that the clothes stores treat men and women differently based on their gender. Are they unethical in doing so? No because women buy more clothes. Is this sexism, yes. The non sexist thing to do in this situation would be to assume, contrary to all the evidence, that me…
/r/MensRights20/01/15 05:29 AM
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According to wikipedia it sexism is "prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender". And I claim that some forms of dicrimination, or different treatment of men and women is not unethical
/r/MensRights20/01/15 03:28 AM
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Let's take this example: you decide to pull a woman's pants down in two different countries, one that is very liberal and one where women are expected to wear the burca. The woman on the country where they are expected to wear the burca will probably experience the harassment as something harsher than the woman on the liberal country. And that is because of the cultural expectations about women that are different on the two countries. (amd I know It would be difficult to pull a woman's pants don…
/r/MensRights10/01/15 06:50 PM
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When you compare it to what would count as harassment for women yes. But the logical paradox is only there if you disregard that the line you have to cross on sexual harassment is different for men and women.
/r/MensRights10/01/15 06:20 PM
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I'm saying that you can't set the standards basing yourself entirely on minorities. For example, supposing a person insults another in the same way in two different countries. One country is very liberal and the other is very conservative. The penalty for the same crime is going to be less severe in the liberal country than in the conservative one. And that is not unjust since it is different how much that crime swayed from the social expectations of how to properly behave in each country. If me…
/r/MensRights10/01/15 03:11 AM
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The trouble about sex crimes is that it is dependent not on objective criteria, but of the state of mind of the people involved in it. A guy can be very rough when aproaching a girl, and they can have sex and do pretty crazy things. But if they both aprove of it, then there was no crime. So if we concede that guys don't usually feel that bothered by things that girls would usually experience as sexual harassment, shouldn't the standard of what qualifies as harassment be different for men and wom…
/r/MensRights10/01/15 12:28 AM
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What do you mean by single relationship? When I talked about promiscuity I didn't mean necessarily having more than one partner at the same time. I think it is better if we take the example of a woman having many partners throughout her life, not necessarily cheating on any of them, and a guy doing the same thing. The woman is more likely to be judged based on that. And that reflects cultural prejudices we still hold today that may lead a woman being sexually harassed to experience that as somet…
/r/MensRights10/01/15 12:16 AM
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If being more lax on judging women that commited sexual harassment can benefit both genders I don't see why not to do it
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:29 PM
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For biological reasons I don't mean difference in size. Through human history until very recently if a woman got pregnant she had a serious risk of dying, specially if her sexual partner didn't stay around to support her during pregnancy. This lead to an evolutionary trait being transmitted by women, which is women being more careful when selecting their sexual partner. This also lead to differences in women's sexual behavior, for example women tend to be more concerned if their partner sees the…
/r/MensRights09/01/15 09:27 PM
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If men and black people are more often victms of murder, government policies to protect people against those crimes should take that into account. For example, if there is a place that crimes are more likely to occur there should be more policemen policing that area. And that doesn't mean you are opressed and less deserving of protection if there are less policemen around the places you go to, It would also be wrong to conclude that true equality should be that every citizen gets the same amount…
/r/MensRights09/01/15 07:43 PM
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Even if you follow all the rules of "normal courting behavior", considering there are such universally valid rules, if you find a girl with different beliefs on how courtship should be conducted and you aply the usual rules when approaching her, she is going to feel harassed. Courtship always involves the risk of harassment, there is no way to remove that risk, all we can do is deal with it.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 05:50 PM
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Would you disregard everything I'm saying if I claim that a naive notion of equality in this case would mean privileging men?
/r/MensRights09/01/15 05:32 PM
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Even if you claim that the goal of sexual harassment laws is to allow each sex to aproach the other equally that is not it's effect. If people are not equally vulnerable to suffering sexual harassment, or equally harmed when they do, why would they need equal protection by the law?
/r/MensRights09/01/15 05:29 PM
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She is really good. She doesn't get many video responses because she is most frequently correct in what she says. Athough it is interesting to try and find something to disagree about in her videos. I think the only reasonable thing we can do is to find parts of her arguments that are imprecise or that she doesn't develop to the end and talk about that. Well I think she is mostly correct on her description of what she calls men disposability and woman objectification, her description of those ph…
/r/MensRights06/01/15 06:52 AM
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I don't think devaloring other fields of academia is helpful to the men's rights movement in any way. Quite the opposite actually. There have probably been negative influences of feminism in the humanities and social sciences that we still are not aware of and which are important to be discussed for the progression of the men's rights movement. Related to that are the limitations of men's freedom that are related to their traditional social roles as providers and all that, many of which don't re…
/r/MensRights05/01/15 11:46 PM
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The case of someone that was born and never heard of any gender roles, this wold only be possible if they never had any contact with any other human being. In this case the distinction between gender and sex would be meaningless since they would behave just like animals if they ever survived being without other humans as babies. And you can claim that harassment is not an issue based on most people considering such behaviours wrong, but recently there was a video about how women are harassed on …
/r/MensRights31/12/14 11:26 PM
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It is true that some people use the term gender meaning sex as well, but I think what happens with this is the same as when people use the term feminism meaning men's rights. You may disagree about the importance of terminology, but I think you do agree that considering problems like rape and harassment only as cultural problems is misleading. And I think there is a pattern in feminism for doing so. I also disagree that the combination of sex and gender accounts for transgenders, I believe the m…
/r/MensRights31/12/14 09:52 PM
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That is what I meant. I meant to use rape as one of the exaples where feminists try to explain only as a cultural problem a problem that also has other causes. I also claim feminists distort our view of the phenomenon by doing so
/r/MensRights31/12/14 09:08 PM
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The point is that viewing the differences between the sexes only in terms of gender is a misleading way of viewing it. So, in the example you gave, if we limit what it means to be a man to the terminology of gender, the guy that likes to wear dresses is denied the freedom of putting himself in the same group as other men, because he doesn't fit the social representation of what it means to be a men. And if we only add to it the biological sex we can't account, exemplarily, for the transgenders. …
/r/MensRights31/12/14 07:59 PM
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First of all thanks for your considerate response. This was my first post on reddit and I am pleased I could find someone that is willing to really talk about the subject. So, let's go: 1) To advance on this point I looked up the definition of gender on the america psychological association and I found this: "Gender refers to the attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with a person’s biological sex. Behavior that is compatible with cultural expectations is referred to…
/r/MensRights31/12/14 07:08 AM
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