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Man, what a pointless video. It’s like she wants to acknowledge that men do have it rough in society to a certain extent but doesn’t actually want to bother coming up with any ways to change that other then some weird condescending shrug-off of “figure it out yourself, losers” while projecting this idea that MRAs constantly blame women and only women for all the shit they deal with, even though this sub’s existence by itself essentially dismantles that idea; we criticize sexist ideas and policie…
/r/MensRights24/08/19 12:36 PM
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This dude’s entire video collection consists of crying about Trump. He also legitimately defended Antifa in one video.
/r/MensRights11/02/18 03:40 AM
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i can't speak for girls but usually when i talk to girls about their experiences at bars or parties the first thing i hear usually isn't "so i checked my drink as usual"
/r/MensRights11/07/17 11:13 AM
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i mean, the roofie shit doesn't really hold up that well considering most rape reports are from family members and not random bar patrons most people go to bars in groups and if they don't, there are enough witnesses around to see if something happens. most people go to bars just to drink and hang out.
/r/MensRights11/07/17 10:51 AM
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are you being sarcastic
/r/MensRights11/07/17 10:40 AM
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what are the actual chances of you getting roofied to begin with
/r/MensRights11/07/17 10:30 AM
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didn't you get the memo that being a paranoid shut-in trumps the actual chance of you getting attacked in public?
/r/MensRights11/07/17 09:44 AM
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So it just started because a woman was offended by how men were explaining shit to her? Isn't she essentially going off of her own experiences rather than men in general being condescending to women in general? Doesn't this king of lose its luster when you realize there are millions of condescending women who explain shit to men even if they don't know what they're talking about? You can find a good amount of them on Twitter. It doesn't even matter if the men are right or not because this isn't …
/r/MensRights10/07/17 05:01 AM
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Who coined the phrase to begin with? I heard some story about the term originally being made by a woman who was mad about a man unknowningly criticizing some book she wrote.
/r/MensRights10/07/17 04:22 AM
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Except none of these marriages that were studied were abusive.
/r/MensRights15/03/17 02:03 PM
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It has a paragraph stating that women don't do it for instrumental purposes. His research found that 14 couples decided to separate but not to divorce.
/r/MensRights14/03/17 11:10 PM
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He doesn't though. Have you read the study?
/r/MensRights14/03/17 10:56 PM
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No, if men are happy with working then they aren't oppressed. What are you talking about? It's not the job during marriage, it's the job during divorce that's the issue.
/r/MensRights14/03/17 10:53 PM
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Did you miss the part where it's been stated that men report having higher marriage quality than women?
/r/MensRights14/03/17 07:36 PM
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I realize that in parts of the world women really ARE treated like garbage, but even then there is some sympathy hidden underneath legitimate misogyny. With men, no one really gives a shit, even if they are the victims.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 07:09 PM
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Men are not oppressed. Except for the military draft, the child soldiers in Africa who are forced into combat, gay men who are attacked and harassed for being gay, black men who are profiled for being black, men who are fucked over in divorce cases because of the societal bias regarding mothers being the naturally better caretakers, men ever being raped or sexually harasses being seen as a joke, men being prosecuted over false rape allegations with no proof aside from a woman saying that she was…
/r/MensRights08/03/17 07:03 PM
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Then you don't have anything to actually contribute and you're here just to tell everyone that they're idiots and that you're smart. Get lost, find someplace else where you can kiss your own ass.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:41 PM
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No one ever said it wasn't an issue. The entire issue is that IWD is an international holiday but IMD isn't even recognized as anything other than just a pitty party. They're essentially acting as if the issues that men and boys face are less valid and important in comparison to sanitation issues even if they're both problems that affect people deeply. You're implying that men don't actually face any issues in any country. You don't think male child soldiers are treated like absolute garbage?
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:39 PM
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I don't need a day to celebrate me being a man Congratulations, the world doesn't revolve around you. It's the double standard that's the issue.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:31 PM
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You are delusional. You would not even be saying this shit if Women's Day was on the same day as Cancer Day was. Jesus Christ, YOU need to get some fucking perspective before you open your mouth.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:30 PM
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and a men's day is not going to bring the attention to men's issues as much as create controversy because men (not entirely but to a muuuuch greater degree than women) rule the world. People really need to get off this shit with men ruling the world. Donald Trump or whoever rules over Saudi Arabia doesn't represent all men, they don't have the same power nor do they have the same sort of societal advantages. What does it even mean to rule the world? Not all men are in the same social and economi…
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:27 PM
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why you can't get pregnant because double standards Your mom already got pregnant for me.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:14 PM
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I agree with this completely. In all honesty I think having a day to celebrate someone based on how they were born and things they can't even change is just unnecessary.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:13 PM
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So does having a men's day celebrate only men who are victimized or is it about men in general? We won't find out unless we actually have a men's day. You're caught up on this idea that the days are centered around who's oppressing who, not just them existing and being part of the landscape. What is the white girl with parents who make 500k a year going to do with IWD? Nothing, it's just an ego stroke at that point, which is essentially what a good amount of women online seem to treat it as. Why…
/r/MensRights08/03/17 06:06 PM
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I'll keep that in mind when Women's Day is replaced with International Car Crash Victim Remembrance Day. It's almost like you're missing the actual point.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:50 PM
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You act as if having a day to celebrate women for existing is somehow going to have those women in other countries who are legitimately oppressed somehow come out to the limelight and give themselves a hug. They're not. It's the international equivalent of giving a kid who didn't do anything a participation trophy even if all he did was show up. You're essentially implying that men are never oppressed, or that oppression is only legitimate if it's the opposite gender that's oppressing you. It's …
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:45 PM
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Why have it then when you can have it on March 8th?
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:35 PM
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Then why not have that day on March 8th instead of IWD?
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:28 PM
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Weird how there's no International Starvation Awareness Day. Or Day's that could be about specific jobs or occupations or roles that could contribute to society. Or diseases. Or social issues. What is the point of having IWD as the important holiday on it's date but IMD isn't even important in comparison to another holiday on the same date? THAT is sexist and unfair, you're giving one group more attention then another for pretty much nothing.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:23 PM
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You really aren't making a point aside from "there's no issue or double standard here because sanitation is an actual issue". You realize that's not substantial in any way, right?
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:17 PM
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My bad.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:16 PM
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If there was a more important day we could be having instead of women's day, and weren't, that would be a double standard. Yes, because there are no other important issues in existence that we could have a day about instead of celebrating women for being women.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:15 PM
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The UN doesn't recognize International Men's Day as a thing but they recognize Women's Day as a legitimate holiday. They really couldn't bother to have an official day celebrating men, or just get rid of the concept of gender praising holidays? It seems shitty.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:08 PM
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Because it's an unfair double standard. It's half assed, like they just did it so they could cut men some slack but at the same time did it in a really lazy way.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:07 PM
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I just think it's a bit disingenuous to have the day that's supposed to praise men is on the same day as trying to stop open deification, which is an issue that effects both genders and matters more about hygiene than anything else.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:06 PM
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Because we need days of praise, right? Do women need days of praise?
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:03 PM
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Except that's not the point. Having a day where you're honored for your gender in general is unnecessary, but it just seems kinda unfair that the day that's supposed to celebrate men and their existence is on the same day as an issue with proper sanitation all around the world, with this year in particular being about women and girls. It seems like they just kinda made up the date on the spot and they didn't really care to begin with, and even that day is overshadowed. I'm not saying that poor h…
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:01 PM
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The entire concept of having a day dedicated to worshipping one gender because of their gender is retarded. It's more sexist and condescending than anything else.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 02:29 PM
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It's a fairly week point.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 11:01 PM
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They're essentially implying that just liking sex is objectification.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 01:40 AM
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A lot of writers who do this seem to also work on other shows and such. I feel kinda shitty for liking their work from other places when they make things that are sexist for the sake of building up confidence in girls.
/r/MensRights05/03/17 11:43 PM
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I was actually referring more to cartoons actually. For example, back in 04 there was an episode of Johnny Bravo where Johnny was turned into a woman and he began to learn about "women's struggle" and learned how men are pigs and how women are smart and aren't just bodies and such. It's a moral that's understandable but it seems kinda unfair to use shitty strawmen and hyperbole to provide a message of empowerment. The writer of the episode doesn't even seem like she hates men; she's married and …
/r/MensRights05/03/17 11:41 PM
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To be fair, being abnormal or unacceptable can include tons of different shit. I'm just saying that him projecting his behavior onto everyone else is really shitty. Most guys wouldn't even think about physically or sexually harassing others constantly at random intervals unless they were trying really hard to fit in or compensate or something. It was funny as a joke when a few other people did it to one another once and moved on but it's become a pretty annoying shtick for him. Even they've been…
/r/MensRights01/03/17 05:35 AM
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Everyone is a pervert to an extent, the most perverted shit that men and women do is in their own homes. At most in public you'll see people checking others out, but it's not like that's perverted. Everyone looks at attractive people. Even then it's kinda rare to see someone actually doing that nowadays.
/r/MensRights01/03/17 05:11 AM
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I'm fairly certain he was projecting considering we only do that shit occasionally and he does it all the time to fit in I guess. The shit about all men being gross pervs was pretty shitty. Both the genders are perverted; they just express perverted desires in different ways.
/r/MensRights01/03/17 12:47 AM
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It's a stretch when you're generalizing a group as massive as men. 3 billion people might be a bit of an unfair generalization.
/r/MensRights26/02/17 12:30 PM
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Why do you think people come to the conclusion that they're all the same?
/r/MensRights25/02/17 05:40 PM
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I just don't really think it's that fair.
/r/MensRights25/02/17 03:29 PM
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The guy in the tweet was bitching about women breastfeeding at the table of a restaurant but is fine with her tits being out even when she isn't breastfeeding. The person who posted this is using it as a way to justify hating men, and also implying there are many more scenarios like it that justify her hatred.
/r/MensRights25/02/17 04:35 AM
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Eh. It's just her talking about how all men have thin skin for calling her out on making sexist comments and being all around dumb. I DMed her on Twitter while asking her how it makes sense to make fun of people who get offended and then get offended at just the topic of men existing. It's good to see how self-important she is.
/r/MensRights25/02/17 04:22 AM
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It's pretty bad if you'd like the link.
/r/MensRights25/02/17 04:09 AM
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Did Elliot even knew what he was doing was bad?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 08:07 PM
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Have you see her twitter?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 01:31 PM
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What does this mean?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 04:26 AM
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This is pretty legitimately insane. Have you seen her twitter?
/r/MensRights24/02/17 03:42 AM
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I'm kind of skeptical on sexual objectification mainly because it seems like men being seen as super strong tough muscleheads who exist to protect and serve is seen as something that a lot of women like, at least in terms of a physical form.
/r/MensRights22/02/17 02:57 AM
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To be perfectly honest, I was referring more so to representation in movies and video games and such. I just think it's lazy and dumb that people think women in games having tits is this huge issue but are perfectly fine with men being treated as either meat shields or walking target practice.
/r/MensRights21/02/17 08:34 PM
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I'm using video games mainly as an example. Aren't they supposed to be power fantasies, so if men wear skimpy or revealing clothing than it's just to emphasize how masculine they are or something? This doesn't even make sense considering anyone can insert themselves into any scenario, women included. The Twilight films are proof of that.
/r/MensRights21/02/17 06:31 PM
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Is it even that much of a deal if men are the ones willing to take on said tasks? Like saving people and being martyr.
/r/MensRights21/02/17 05:58 PM
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What about when men are just showing off their biseps and muscles and such? I've heart the argument that it's not really objectification because they're being told they're strong and powerful.
/r/MensRights21/02/17 04:40 PM
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This is kinda depressing to be perfectly honest.
/r/MensRights20/02/17 06:30 PM
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Do you know about the 1-in-5 study? A question they asked the participants is if they ever had sex while drunk.
/r/MensRights18/02/17 07:29 PM
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Do modern day Jews even still follow this?
/r/MensRights18/02/17 03:26 AM
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Maybe. It depends on whether or not it's still applied to today.
/r/MensRights17/02/17 03:37 PM
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men are presumed to want to have sex more than women Except a lot of the times they don't, especially when they're overworked or stressed or when they just don't feel like it. What the hell would stop a woman from potentially just forcing a man to have sex with her out of obligation or out of fear of being persecuted? What would stop a man from forcing a woman to have sex even if she's mad at him and doesn't want to? How can you even take the statement of Jewish culture taking value in love and …
/r/MensRights17/02/17 06:09 AM
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Judaism is one of the few religions that REQUIRE both parties to engage in sex. How? It literally says sex is a right that women have, men don't.
/r/MensRights17/02/17 05:15 AM
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It depends on if both of the people have sex while drunk.
/r/MensRights12/02/17 08:14 PM
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I read it, it seems like a lot of it is due to less broad definitions of rape/sexual assault and the fact that the other two studies are concerned with health rather than crime. Does that make it less credible, though?
/r/MensRights12/02/17 07:22 PM
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What about the DOJ study? I've been seeing a ton of people reference it and how it apparently isn't that accurate either due to the different methods they use, and it seems they deflate the actual statistics. http://web.archive.org/web/20141213080317/http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf
/r/MensRights12/02/17 06:57 PM
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Didn't hbomberguy essentially debunk all of this though? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rc24YtUslCU
/r/MensRights12/02/17 05:41 PM
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Link?
/r/MensRights12/02/17 05:33 PM
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What about the AAU version? I thought they were the original creators of the claim.
/r/MensRights12/02/17 05:30 PM
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Wasn't the original statistic started from a survey conducted years ago? There are still people peddling it even nowadays. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2015/06/12/1-in-5-women-say-they-were-violated/
/r/MensRights12/02/17 05:15 PM
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Sommers is pretty cool. Kinda irritating how she doesn't link to her sources though.
/r/MensRights12/02/17 12:44 PM
1

There's actually a statement from the original creators of the statistic saying it isn't 100% accurate and that it was generalized and blew out of proportion.
/r/MensRights12/02/17 12:44 PM
8

Except that men get heart disease more than women is due to mostly societal influences. It's been reported in a good amount of studies that women also suffer heart problems, just not the same way that men do. It's also been reported that when women get heart transplants they usually get hearts from men.
/r/MensRights06/02/17 11:19 PM
1

I know that, but people who saw it on TV who TOOK what he was saying seriously.
/r/MensRights03/02/17 06:35 PM
1

Yeah, I guess. I actually did see people who agreed with everything he said though.
/r/MensRights03/02/17 02:27 AM
3

Pretty much. People have this weird idea that because some men do bad things, it should justify women being distrustful of men.
/r/MensRights03/02/17 01:00 AM
1

I'm guessing he's just trying to offend people? I can't really tell if he's being serious when he's saying shit like this, it's just a broad generalization.
/r/MensRights02/02/17 11:55 PM
1

Also I don't really get what sort of statistics he's actually referring to? He's acting like there's some study out there that has men being rapists and killers 99% of the time.
/r/MensRights02/02/17 08:20 PM
2

I wanna say he's making a joke but it's the lowest hanging fruit imaginable. Apparently men aren't that big of a threat considering women live longer than we do. He's confusing women being hurt with women being killed.
/r/MensRights02/02/17 03:50 PM
1

The most he's doing is pandering then.
/r/MensRights02/02/17 02:16 PM
1

Yeah, I guess. I probably shouldn't take it to heart.
/r/MensRights02/02/17 02:15 PM
1

So he's just being facetious and exaggerating?
/r/MensRights02/02/17 12:47 PM
1

Also its from a video of a Fox News reporter saying that women are stronger and happier in the long run.
/r/MensRights24/01/17 02:38 AM
2

I'm just REALLY trying to figure out how it makes any sense for happiness to equal being better. In terms of social interactions it makes sense but happiness and sadness are shit that's affected by a LOT of factors. Being happy about being born as a rich kid who didn't have to fight to survive and being happy with that doesn't make you better as a person, it makes you better in terms of a financial position.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 11:54 PM
2

I just don't really understand how what's essentially being comfortable with your life or things that happen in general makes you happy.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 09:55 PM
1

I just don't really understand how happiness can be seen as a sign of superiority when literally anyone can be happy about anything.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 09:18 PM
3

But it's perfectly fine for women to be depressed and sad and be showered with praise for sticking through it and how their lives are super hard compared to those privileged men? What logic is that? When men are happy and women are unhappy it's privilege but when it's the other way around it's a sign that women are stronger and superior? What fucking SENSE is that? "People have it harder then you." A good amount of the time those people are depressed too. Your logic doesn't make any sense. You c…
/r/MensRights23/01/17 08:55 PM
6

I'm more so referring to this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jmnTnXPn5Yc It's what the woman says is what got to me. How is she saying that happiness is a sign of superiority or strength?
/r/MensRights23/01/17 08:40 PM
1

The fact that a woman speaking up for herself is called a whore by a massive subreddit and upvoted to the number one post. The fact that if a woman wants to be taken seriously she has to come off as demure while a man can degrade anyone and it be seen as a sign of power. Yep, you're delusional. None of this shit ever actually happens and if it does, it's by a VERY small fringe of people. You have this bizarre idea in your head that the entirety of the world is out to get women. Look at the actua…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 08:50 PM
2

Everyone thinks less of them because there isn't an appropriately large portion of the community that tells the idiots that they are wrong. You mean like most internet communities? Do you know how shitty it is to be ridden off as a shelter for homeless and abused men because other assholes were at a town hall meeting talking about how the rape laws are too stringent. The thing is is that people like that aren't ever even taken seriously to begin with and rightly so. The issues that men face ARE …
/r/MensRights22/01/17 07:59 PM
1

I disagree with but I don't hate you. I don't really see what you're seeing to be quite honest, most things here are fair and are in line with how good people usually talk. I just think it's shitty how people in general can talk about men like they're a hivemind and that's allowed but you can't even consider doing the same for women. It's bad in either case to generalize entire groups based off stereotypical attitudes. Obviously not all men or women are good or bad people, but it seems like soci…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 07:36 PM
1

You keep insinuating that this entire subreddit is full of women hatred when it really isn't. I can't tell if you're flat out deluded or you're just talking out your ass. One comment with a few upvotes doesn't represent the entirety of the group. "I know that is unfair, but your vocal minority is so noticeable on first glance." ...Because they're vocal. "Surely you know that outside of this echo chamber, the community as a whole looks down upon the idea of moving for men's rights. Do you not und…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 07:29 PM
1

"disparity in percentages" I had no idea you conducted a study in how many topics and comments seem like women hatred to you and how many don't. Everything I've seen in this board is the opposite. Most people here are good hearted and only a few are legitimately hateful. I don't know where you're getting this sort of perspective from or how you're even measuring it to begin with. It just kinda sounds like you're talking out your ass. Search through the topics right now and all of it is criticism…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 07:23 PM
1

Again, you're acting as if all the posts on here are hate speech while also saying that not everyone on here is hateful. The same could be applied to the toxic shit that feminism says. The thing is, people don't like to be generalized as a group based on a few bad apples, that's the point. You act as if it's perfectly fine to justify a hatred of a group with fairly noble goals and good intentions because of some comments you read online.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 07:02 PM
1

"Look at this subreddit" Most of it is criticizing legitimately sexist feminist theories and social attitudes. How are you even coming to the conclusion that this board despises women? "It's okay for women to seek their own interests because so many men seek to devalue their humanity." You could say essentially the exact same thing in regards to how the media and society as a whole treats men, dude. Most men nowadays aren't out to dehumanize women. You're making some VERY heavy generalizations a…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 06:50 PM
1

You aren't really attempting to prove him wrong. You're just going on about how much he must hate women because he reads the exchange different from you. Are you sure you don't hate Trump and you're just trying to find a way to justify that hatred?
/r/MensRights22/01/17 06:27 PM
1

Most women in the west don't even identify as feminists, though. The entire movement even outside from MRA's is labeled as just a bunch of sexist lesbians who hate men, but that doesn't even mean the entire movement is like that. You're saying that labeling feminism as wrong is bad but doing the same thing to Men's rights is okay? What regime are you even referring to? Trump? He's not going to change any laws about rape or sexual assault, you're being paranoid and resorting to knee jerk reaction…
/r/MensRights22/01/17 06:23 PM
2

It's more a response to feminists and society as a while degrading and humiliating men under the guise of equal rights as well to be honest. They've been more focused on making their own lives more privileged than actually equal to men. I agree that condescension won't get us anywhere regardless of who's doing it.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 04:26 PM
2

I know Trump has groped and forced himself on women in the past long before the election so he is one of the few cases of legitimately sexist men that the media constantly claims is sexist. I'm not referring to the pussy grab thing, rather something else Trump did at a beauty pageant at one point. I'm really hoping you don't see all MRA's as Trump supporters.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 06:35 AM
9

I've seen some women defending Sharia Law saying it's not that bad because they're getting loans interest free.
/r/MensRights21/01/17 07:25 PM
2

I think they're just upset about Trump's sexual assault charges and how he's still president.
/r/MensRights21/01/17 07:18 PM
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Now that I think about it what are they even protesting against? All of their points about the big bad patriarchy are already being addressed by the government and they've been actively trying to stop sexism and rape for decades now. They act like it hasn't been talked about at all despite women having shit loads of laws that grant them special rights and privileges.
/r/MensRights21/01/17 07:10 PM
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Some of the signs are both laughable and infuriating. http://i.imgur.com/FWm6kON.jpg I never liked Trump, but then again I never liked Hillary either.
/r/MensRights21/01/17 07:04 PM
8

It's essentially in response to Trump's inauguration, right? I'm in Maryland outside the city so everything is calm here.
/r/MensRights21/01/17 06:59 PM
1

Thank you! I'll also attempt to explain what the main goal is of groups such as Men's Rights. If you don't mind, what are some specific goals in mind? I've always kinda wondered about things like homicide and the legal system considering a lot of that in general plays into men being aggressive and sexist against other men.
/r/MensRights14/01/17 04:07 PM
3

Because feminists obviously talk about men's issues all the time? You're kidding, right? Feminists don't care about men's issues, they care about women's issues. You never see feminists talking about sexist divorce laws or the military draft.
/r/MensRights14/01/17 03:12 PM
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"Men's rights is white rights." Yeah because it's not like MRA's think the imagine of young black men in America and how they're treated by society and law enforcement as a whole is incredibly racist and damaging or anything.
/r/MensRights14/01/17 03:10 PM
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So essentially she wants to create a system where women are untouchable and can get away with literally anything if they feel "threatened"? That can literally apply to anything, if a woman feels threatened out of fear that she might be fought back against if she abuses or assaults a man or a man might just disagree with her she thinks that gives them the right to kill them?
/r/MensRights14/01/17 06:28 AM
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The question is how far men should go in their self defense.
/r/MensRights13/01/17 07:43 PM
1

This seems to be a really sad truth.
/r/MensRights30/12/16 02:46 AM
1

I think most parents are scared that a male child could become that way. They don't have to worry about that for a female child.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 10:07 PM
2

I might just be letting it get to me but some hardcore feminist unironically said that men are just violent animals that can thankfully be domesticated and have some use to society. It's sexist as shit but it got me thinking.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 10:07 PM
1

I wasn't thinking more of this sort of condescending attitude that parents and society in general tries to cram into everyone's heads out of fear that they'll become rapists or murderers.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 02:51 PM
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I've just kinda of noticed that a lot of a parents priority when raising a boy is teaching them how to treat women and how rape and murder is bad and such instead of teaching them actual child-like things.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 02:25 PM
1

I realize there's stupid shit that constitutes as harassment but then there's actual groping and molesting and such.
/r/MensRights22/12/16 04:11 PM
1

What does it have to do with sexual harassment?
/r/MensRights22/12/16 04:14 AM
1

I just don't get her logic. She realizes that sex existed before patriarchies were common place right?
/r/MensRights22/12/16 03:17 AM
1

It doesn't make any sense. In the West the power balances of society and society's own problems don't automatically correlate with the problems and power balances of individual people and their own issues and choices, for the most part.
/r/MensRights21/12/16 06:49 PM
1

Isn't the theory in itself pretty misogynistic because it's essentially implying that women are all brainwashed and are unable to choose what they actually like doing so they need someone to do it for them? It's like viewing them as children.
/r/MensRights21/12/16 05:12 PM
1

I've seen people who legitimately think like this so it was worth mentioning.
/r/MensRights21/12/16 03:51 PM
1

Dworkin?
/r/MensRights21/12/16 03:51 PM
1

I don't really get the whole thing with "power structures".
/r/MensRights21/12/16 03:50 PM
1

No, /v/. He specifically said that male on female sex was the penis violently penetrating female flesh.
/r/MensRights21/12/16 06:44 AM
0

Good bait than. http://is.4chan.org/b/1482294457958.png
/r/MensRights21/12/16 05:40 AM
0

Here's the main point he made. http://is.4chan.org/b/1482294457958.png
/r/MensRights21/12/16 05:05 AM
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I don't know, if it was bait it was some elaborate fucking bait.
/r/MensRights21/12/16 05:04 AM
1

Give me a second.
/r/MensRights21/12/16 05:04 AM
0

It's just kinda seems like women always end up looking like either awesome amazing people or helpless victims and men just look like stupid idiots.
/r/MensRights20/12/16 12:56 AM
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No dude, because it's ridiculous.
/r/MensRights19/12/16 09:50 PM
0

I've always been curious about this, but doesn't most money from child support go to raising the kids? I know there are instances of women abusing it but still.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 03:16 AM
1

Fairly certain most of his work is just pandering to hardcore feminists.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 06:36 PM
1

http://imgur.com/a/BqSg9
/r/MensRights13/12/16 06:24 PM
4

Women have fragile ego's too, though. If they didn't than no women would ever be offended at being called a bitch/cunt or be mad about being drafted.
/r/MensRights03/12/16 08:52 PM
2

It's weird because I only ever see feminists call MRA's crybabies and nothing else lol
/r/MensRights23/11/16 05:26 PM
3

I mean, it's not surprising that she disabled comments lmao.
/r/MensRights23/11/16 01:56 PM
4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvfwpQYs-kA
/r/MensRights23/11/16 01:45 PM
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It's not even that, it's just the fact that people are so smug and condescending when it comes to "debunking" MRA's but when it comes to people fighting back and curl up in a ball in the corner. Did the Ivy league school also teach people to call their opponents names?
/r/MensRights23/11/16 01:34 PM
1

I think the point they're trying to convey is that the less of a number of attacks by a specific group of people there are, the less important it is.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 03:33 PM
2

Is there a link to this?
/r/MensRights21/11/16 03:31 PM
0

It's not even about how much it happens, just the fact that it's an issue in the FIRST place is the problem. That's why they're called issues.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 03:31 PM
1

No, about men raping men and how that's apparently not an important issue because it's men that are doing the raping.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 10:05 AM
0

I agree, it's just dumb to act like male rape isn't a big deal because more men rape men than women rape men.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 09:43 AM
1

Do you want me to link to what the guy actually said? Explaining it myself would be kinda hard.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 09:22 AM
1

It's more so about direct causes.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 08:38 AM
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I'm really just doing a devil's advocate kinda thing, mainly because he thinks that because the issue of male rape is smaller or that it's men's fault for doing it, than they should get men to stop it themselves.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 08:24 AM
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"So are you upset that men get raped by statistically insignificant amount of women? Or largely men? Or both? Your desire to paint this out to be a "women rape men too woe is us" is laughable. Men, for the most part, rape men. Women rape men and women, but I assure you, you're focusing on a few bees while ignoring the giant hive attacking you If men want to really combat rape (to men and women) they should confront other men about it." This is what he said. Along with: "Nobody in a serious setti…
/r/MensRights21/11/16 08:22 AM
1

I'm talking about things such as rape and murder, which men are the main perpetrators.
/r/MensRights21/11/16 08:11 AM
1

Link?
/r/MensRights12/11/16 12:41 AM
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I'm guessing you didn't read the bulk of the article if you're still doing this "men are babies" thing. I think the real question is why you think that women also tough it up through the side effects and never take medication or anything like that.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 11:13 PM
1

I'm still a bit confused though, female birth control has kinks too, so why the medical team decided to end the experiment is a mystery.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 09:34 PM
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The researchers were the ones who ended it, not the men. The effects probably had a heavy impact due to the fact that 96% of sperm production stopped.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 08:21 PM
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The same thing happened with Stewart and the manspreading situation, dude. The problem is is that they're actively spreading false information and said false information just creates more sexist attitudes among people.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 06:30 PM
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They probably stopped it because even small doses had huge effects.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 04:59 PM
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"We all know that" No, people who want to stroke their own egos think this. Did you read anything relating to the drug? It's experimental. How many women are saying that they shouldn't be included in the military draft because they're scared? What a bunch of whimps.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 04:41 PM
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Where did you even get these numbers from? The test showed that the men who were taking the drug experienced side effects that are much more intense than the side effects for women, plus only 25% of the men in the experiment dropped it due to the side effects, the other 75% were willing to deal with it. It was the researchers that stopped the experiment, not the men. Are you lying?
/r/MensRights10/11/16 04:36 PM
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It's an experimental pill anyways, they still have to work a lot of the kinks out so the side effects aren't as severe as losing most of your fucking sperm count. That isn't men being whimps. It's doctors needing more time to improve the drug and it's effects as to not make so that the users become completely infertile or depressed to the point of suicide.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 03:25 PM
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Why do they act condescending when it comes to men but if it were women who were experiencing this they'd cradle them like a bunch of children?
/r/MensRights10/11/16 03:16 PM
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Shoe0nhead made a video about this which debunks pretty much everything. The men who used the pill didn't drop out, the researchers stopped the experiment because of how intense the side effects were. Plus there was a 2007 study which tested a new pill for women which stated that about 140 or so women dropped out. Also why are they referencing Normandy when everyone who was on Normandy was a man?
/r/MensRights10/11/16 03:15 PM
3

I'm not denying there are MRA's out there who are misogynists but it's stupid to assume the entire movement is like that.
/r/MensRights01/11/16 01:52 AM
5

I was literally told by someone a few days ago that men were just inferior expendables who were to be thrown away when their usefulness ran out.
/r/MensRights27/10/16 10:11 PM
0

Sorry, I have kneejerk reactions sometimes. Anyways, it's depressing that there are people who will legitimately respond like that. Don't apologize, I'm just being a bit sensitive.
/r/MensRights27/10/16 08:00 PM
2

I forgot that we live in a society where the amount of attention a disease gets is based on how much people like the body part that's affected. It's like if Kindergarten had a national committee.
/r/MensRights27/10/16 07:13 PM
0

I hope you're being sarcastic because that's the most condescending response to a legitimate question that there is.
/r/MensRights27/10/16 06:59 PM
1

In a few ways, yeah.
/r/MensRights27/10/16 05:50 PM
1

Most of the biological stuff is caused by social issues though.
/r/MensRights27/10/16 03:25 PM
1

It's stuff like this that's infuriating: http://m.imgur.com/qwoOHip
/r/MensRights26/10/16 06:38 PM
2

I think it's also due to a little bit of double standards honestly. If the genders were reversed than feminists would say that this is unfair to women and it's a sign of male privilege.
/r/MensRights26/10/16 05:09 PM
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Then it's less women being superior and more so them being more privileged. Using death as a way to prove that you're superior to someone is stupid anyways. It makes you look like a sociopath.
/r/MensRights26/10/16 04:37 PM
2

I didn't downvote you. Obviously this all comes down to biological differences between the genders. A lot of women are completely out of commission when it comes to childbirth and pregnancy so it's possible that their immune systems were built like that to sustain potential offspring life.
/r/MensRights26/10/16 04:35 PM
1

That's my point, if it were the other way around then feminists would be clamoring that this is sexism and misogyny and it needs to change. And when it changes they claim it's just women's natural superiority. There's a good amount of evidence that supports that a lot of male deaths are due to social and environmental factors rather than biological ones.
/r/MensRights26/10/16 04:30 PM
2

My point was that feminists USE the fact that they live longer as a sign of superiority. Men are mocked even when they try to say they have a problem. Why is it that breast cancer gets so much funding when men die from diseases that are much worse and lethal? Feminists in general tend to pass off men's problems and issues as inconsequential.
/r/MensRights26/10/16 04:22 PM
2

Estrogen helps the immune system more, doesn't it? It's kinda lame because feminists think this is a sign that women are better despite the fact that women USED to have a higher mortality rate in the past.
/r/MensRights26/10/16 04:16 PM
2

That's the thing about these data charts; they don't actually site their sources and deliberately leave information out. Weird how they don't mention WHAT degrees women get compared to men...
/r/MensRights25/10/16 08:50 PM
10

4chan. It's funny because they act like women being more privileged than men is equivalent to them being "superior". It's kinda like saying that whites are better than blacks because they get shot less and have more money.
/r/MensRights24/10/16 10:16 PM
2

For men it's called circumcision and for women it's called genital mutilation despite the fact that they're essentially the same process.
/r/MensRights17/10/16 05:23 PM
1

Really? I heard the foreskin actually naturally protects the penis from infections.
/r/MensRights17/10/16 04:17 AM
2

It seems like any advantage it brings is beaten by just taking care of your penis and cleaning it regularly and practicing safe sex.
/r/MensRights17/10/16 03:08 AM
2

It's still odd that the majority of countries in the world don't even practice MGM or FGM. It's literally only a thing in the west and a few African countries.
/r/MensRights17/10/16 01:31 AM
0

The labia minora is essentially the female forskin, and removing it can lead to a lot of the same benefits to women as male circumcision is to men. It doesn't make any sense for FC to be outlawed by MC to be okay.
/r/MensRights16/10/16 11:21 PM
2

Is female circumcision even legal in the U.S.?
/r/MensRights16/10/16 09:26 PM
5

It's been getting less common. I just kinda hate the idea that's it's not a big deal and that it's only a small piece of skin that won't affect you when that isn't true at all.
/r/MensRights16/10/16 07:12 PM
13

It's even more disgusting that people view FGM as awful, which it is, but MGM is normal. I've even heard people say that calling circumcision MGM is misleading and incorrect.
/r/MensRights16/10/16 06:57 PM
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You gotta love the feminists and soccer moms saying that male circumcision and FGM aren't even comparable. http://skepticalcrunchymom.backfromnature.org/2015/02/5-lies-intactivists-told-me.html http://www.circumcisioninformation.com/circ_record.html http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/12/opinion/la-oe-allen-anti-circumcision-activists-20120812
/r/MensRights16/10/16 06:23 PM
5

Doctors actively defending the procedure is pretty infuriating, too. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-foes-should-cut-it-out-experts-say/
/r/MensRights16/10/16 06:15 PM
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Pretty much this. It'd be kinda like saying "Well, I raped you when you were unconscious, so it's not even a big deal! Besides, it's more attractive to men when you're submissive!" It's honestly fucking disgusting.
/r/MensRights16/10/16 06:11 PM
6

People are more sympathetic to women than men. Also the UTI thing for circumcision.
/r/MensRights16/10/16 06:07 PM
5

It's depressing, that's all. People say that women shouldn't have to constantly change their appearances to get men but when it comes to genital mutilation it's okay? http://imgur.com/a/0UC6K
/r/MensRights16/10/16 06:02 PM
2

The response to it is a bit scary though. Women saying that he deserved it and men wishing they were in his position and that it wasn't that bad.
/r/MensRights12/10/16 08:11 PM
3

Source?
/r/MensRights12/10/16 06:19 PM
2

Proof?
/r/MensRights11/10/16 01:10 AM
1

How accurate is half of the stuff in this pic?
/r/MensRights11/10/16 12:45 AM
1

I don't really think that matters, unless a woman's pussy is so tight that it's like fucking a hose.
/r/MensRights11/10/16 12:00 AM
1

Pederasty in ancient Greece was actually fairly uncommon.
/r/MensRights10/10/16 11:18 PM
2

He also made the argument that objectifying men for their dick sizes isn't the same as doing it for women because guys can cum regardless of a woman's breast size, while women can't if the dick is too small.
/r/MensRights10/10/16 10:04 PM
4

This is still a point that feminists bring up a lot. I hate how they think it's okay to shame men for a stereotype.
/r/MensRights10/10/16 09:02 PM
4

Most men care about getting their women off, they just can't do it from penetration alone. Then again the guy I was talking to also called me a nu male cuck with a small dick and something about my wife's son so maybe I shouldn't even take him seriously
/r/MensRights10/10/16 08:58 PM
1

I mean, there are selfish assholes out there, but to say all men act like that? That's stupid. That's like saying all women are selfish because some of them are gold diggers. You can be selfless in terms of other aspects too, you know.
/r/MensRights10/10/16 08:55 PM
8

I was arguing with a guy from 4chan about this and he said that most women don't come from penetrative sex alone because men are selfish. Can people be this deluded?
/r/MensRights10/10/16 08:50 PM
1

Is there actual any proof that female bathrooms are dirtier than male ones? Just curious.
/r/MensRights21/09/16 01:27 PM
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I know some of them are flat out lies but are there any more studies that dissect some of them more?
/r/MensRights21/09/16 01:17 PM
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The study is based off of another study that shows women are better at designing STORY BASED computer games, not being superior programmers all around.
/r/MensRights21/09/16 01:06 PM
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Most of the points are twisted around to fit the authors ideology anyways.
/r/MensRights21/09/16 12:51 PM
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Fuck fatherhood and diversity!
/r/MensRights24/07/16 10:30 PM
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Also why do anthropologists always act like society will be perfect when women essentially just treat men like dumb animals who try to rape them all the time? They whine about women being submissive and obedient but are fine with men being the same thing. Patronizing garbage.
/r/MensRights24/07/16 06:59 PM
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"Civilizing nature of feminization" Most of the human races accomplishments have been based off of masculinity and traits associated with it.
/r/MensRights24/07/16 03:23 PM
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This is such an odd trend in anthropology as a whole. They essentially try to make the argument as follows: "Hey everybody, thousands of years ago women ruled the Earth, not men! And the Earth was so much better back then and everyone was equal and happy and free!" 9 times out of 10 they're just using this as a way to promote their ideological bias and purposely either leave crucial facts about early humans out or twist it in a way where it doesn't seem important. http://www.chrisknight.co.uk/wp…
/r/MensRights24/07/16 07:24 AM
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Do you think it's due to what the researches in the study say about it being due to women being seen as vulnerable and weak?
/r/MensRights19/07/16 03:28 AM
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So I read the study and in general it seems odd. The entirety of the study seems to imply that although men on average are seen as more likable and more attractive by both genders, participants would still sacrifice the male then the female. Weird.
/r/MensRights18/07/16 08:54 PM
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I just sort of hate the argument that there isn't anything we can do about this whatsoever because it's in our nature when most stuff is a combo of nature and nurture. Couldn't it be argued that people who chose to push the woman instead of the man off the ledge would be labeled as misogynists?
/r/MensRights18/07/16 03:13 PM
1

Why do you think that is?
/r/MensRights18/07/16 03:09 PM
1

I've heard the argument that chivalry in general seems to be biological in nature due to males wanting to protect and defend people who could potentially carry their children.
/r/MensRights18/07/16 11:47 AM
1

What about chivalry?
/r/MensRights17/07/16 09:05 PM
1

Perhaps social context could also play into the experiment? Like, the man or the woman could possibly be related to you or know you personally? Or maybe the height of the bridge can play an effect?
/r/MensRights17/07/16 06:00 PM
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If you don't mind, may I ask why? Just curious. It's interesting how both the genders feel this way.
/r/MensRights17/07/16 12:08 PM
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I'm talking mostly about stuff like chivalry.
/r/MensRights17/07/16 12:05 PM
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Found it. Not very reliable considering that the response to the study found that the smiles the "happy" men demonstrated were unsettling to the main reviewers.
/r/MensRights17/07/16 12:03 PM
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I've read up on some responses to the study and found that some evolutionary biologists (who actually DO think modern feminism and social justice is horrendous) think that this is just natural. Men are constantly vying for a mate, and they see other men as competition. From and evolutionary point of view it makes sense.
/r/MensRights17/07/16 12:01 PM
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Default gender? It's obviously called "fat man" because if it were fat woman than people would be furious and call it sexist and misogynistic. But because it's not it's still sexist and misogynistic? How does that work?
/r/MensRights17/07/16 11:58 AM
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I'm just saying people are reaching for a reason to find it to be oppressive.
/r/MensRights17/07/16 02:18 AM
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Wait, there's research on women being turned off by men being unhappy? Link please?
/r/MensRights16/07/16 10:01 PM
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Both mothers and fathers contribute a shit ton is the point, it's just that mothers are still viewed as the only competent loving caretakers.
/r/MensRights16/07/16 05:11 PM
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Gender studies professors would probably see this as men seeing women as just being objects to fight over.
/r/MensRights16/07/16 03:17 PM
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It's probably also got to do with the pregnancy process and how much of a toll it can take on women's bodies, physically and mentally.
/r/MensRights16/07/16 03:13 PM
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I remember some dude tried to justify manspreading being talked about as a legitimate issue by spewing out some study about the subconscious psychology of sitting postures. That shit doesn't matter when you're on a subway train with limited space with a sensitive body part between your legs. Subconscious thoughts are called subconscious for a reason, and that in itself seems like they're reaching.
/r/MensRights16/07/16 12:37 PM
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"How men naturally feel about women." Are you saying that men are naturally rapists or something?
/r/MensRights15/07/16 04:54 PM
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The main argument I hear from a lot of people is that mothers are more important because they're the ones that birth you, but that's really not fair to say because at the end of the day people celebrate moms and dads for how they raise them, not how they were created.
/r/MensRights15/07/16 04:52 PM
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Why is there a feminism tag then?
/r/MensRights06/07/16 10:57 PM
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it's more so radical feminism
/r/MensRights06/07/16 06:45 PM
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It kinda centers around the whole "men have fragile/large egos!" thing, which to be honest is sort of just an excuse for women to stroke their own egos about shit lmao.
/r/MensRights04/07/16 10:49 PM
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Sorry, I've just seen people sort of imply that fathers shouldn't even be allowed to raise their kids because they didn't go through the same stuff that mothers did.
/r/MensRights03/07/16 01:13 AM
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But that doesn't have anything to do with DNA. Humans aren't asexual. I realize that pregnancy is hard but at least give credit to the people that can make the women pregnant in the first place. Fathers are important too. And even then are you saying that BECAUSE you have the ability to do something then that should put your role in reproduction to essentially a down low and no one should care at all? That seems kinda unfair. What if I don't impregnate 3 women simultaneously?
/r/MensRights02/07/16 12:09 PM
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I've heard of about one case where a woman went through "half" parthenogenesis. There's some small group of women out there who claim that they had a virgin birth but more then likely they're either religious nutcases or lying for attention or to hide from the embarrassment of getting knocked up.
/r/MensRights01/07/16 02:07 AM
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I mean in terms of an evolutionary perspective, not embryonic development.
/r/MensRights30/06/16 01:20 PM
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Yeah I've seen some pretty weird ass theories about women originally being able to asexually reproduce before males came along.
/r/MensRights30/06/16 04:52 AM
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The problem really is is that men are way too stressed which leads to both heart attacks and suicide. But no one cares. Unless it's a woman then no one gives a shit.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 08:48 PM
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Regardless it still sucks that people don't really seem to give a shit and use men's vulnerability to heart disease as a way of saying "Women are better then you!" Fucking sociopaths.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 08:31 PM
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What diseases are men more vulnerable to in comparison to women and vice-versa? I know women are much more vulnerable to auto immune diseases, and women's form of autism and cancer and such seems to be much more malignant.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 07:43 PM
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I just think it's kinda lame that there isn't nearly enough spending on research for heart disease and medicine that can treat it. All of the funding goes to breast cancer and such.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 07:24 PM
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Is there any sort of medication out there that can lessen the likelihood?
/r/MensRights27/06/16 04:49 PM
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The main point is nipples, and the point behind that is that women find more use in it then men do. Both men and women have prostates but men find more use in it then women do. Along with orgasms. And penis which is made of the same tissue that the clit is made of.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 11:33 PM
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I don't even think IGF can be accessed as a hormone until you start working out at an intense rate.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 03:25 PM
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Why does everyone have to have a destined role in the grand evolutionary scheme of things? Most people just wanna pursue what interests them in life, that's it. Looking at everything from a "Well, you're this gender, therefore you're gonna do this thing!" Viewpoint is retarded. Not all men are gonna be hunting protectors and not all women are gonna be nurturing mothers. There is no "obsolete" for humans. Calm down.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 03:23 PM
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I've got a link to an article about it.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 01:45 PM
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Can't we just say that there are biological differences between the genders and just leave it at that? I don't get why everyone promotes this gender wars shit. Who cares if women have stronger immune systems? Also I'm fairly certain when women get disorders and diseases such as cancer and autism, there's are much more malignant.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 01:29 AM
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Aren't women more vulnerable to things such as auto-immune diseases? I just think that's a dumb reason for thinking women are "superior" to men.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 01:03 AM
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Yep
/r/MensRights26/06/16 01:02 AM
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I've read somewhere that women have stronger immune systems and that testosterone actually lessens immunity to flus and such.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 12:14 AM
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Statistically men do have more upper body strength. WHY that is is up for debate. A lot of people say that women make up for lack of testosterone with 3 times more IGF and growth hormone then men, but I don't know.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 12:12 AM
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Look up "The Fratility Myth".
/r/MensRights26/06/16 12:10 AM
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Those people obviously already had a pre-existing worldview before they knew about it.
/r/MensRights25/06/16 02:06 PM
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Except it's not technically correct at all. Corruption implies you're altering something in a negative way that was never intended. Considering that there are so many males on the planet and that most species have males I'm fairly certain the creation of males wasn't unintentional.
/r/MensRights25/06/16 03:26 AM
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Except that they aren't corrupted, they're modified. They're supposed to develop that way if the Y chromosomal sperm was used to impregnate. If it was, then the SRY gene activates which triggers male hormones while the SRY not activating triggers genes in embryos to make them women. Really when you get down to it they both follow similar developments with a few changes. Would you call someone deliberately modding a video game as them corrupting said game, even if said mods had features that aren…
/r/MensRights25/06/16 02:52 AM
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Oh shit, my bad. Were you mocking the messed up part as well?
/r/MensRights25/06/16 02:27 AM
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"Corrupted" "Messed up females" A messed up/corrupted female would be a woman with Turner syndrome, due to her not actually being able to give birth despite having female genitalia. You're deliberately twisting the process of embryonic development to suit your world view (one that's hateful, by the way. You should see a therapist.) Men aren't messed up women, they're genetically modified to suit sexual reproduction. Same with mammalian women. You do realize that sperm cells have either an X or Y…
/r/MensRights25/06/16 02:19 AM
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Males are also the primary victims of war. You don't think constant violent conflict has something to do with that? That can be changed as well. It seems like you'll only complain about privilege when you don't have it and when it can be changed.
/r/MensRights25/06/16 02:08 AM
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it must suck not knowing how to read
/r/MensRights25/06/16 01:52 AM
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Japan in general has weird gender politics lol.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 09:13 PM
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"Men have weaker immune systems." Then you have female privilege. Biologically. Congrats.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 09:02 PM
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Did you just discover this thread lmao I'm not trying to attack you, just curious
/r/MensRights24/06/16 08:53 PM
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Also can people stop spewing out that shit about nipples? Nipples are just a shared trait between the sexes, they're a by-product of the development of embryos. Clits and penises are made of the same tissue but penises are used for reproduction and clits can just be sexually simulated. What's your point? Have you ever thought that both of the sexes just have genetic leftovers from when they started out?
/r/MensRights24/06/16 08:51 PM
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It really isn't as much as it is that the two sexes have identical developmental processes. It's not like male babies start off with a vagina and then it switches to a penis. Both the sexes have identical genitalia which are neither the vagina nor the penis until week 6, when they start to develop into both.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 08:39 PM
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Causing unwanted pregnancies due to levels of attractiveness.
/r/MensRights23/06/16 01:32 PM
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I'm sort of confused by this. Don't most young men not wanna get a girl pregnant regardless of how hot she is?
/r/MensRights23/06/16 01:27 PM
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Except both males and females can develop autism.
/r/MensRights22/06/16 02:08 AM
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I think I mentioned Bryan Sykes saying that human history is more so just "women's history" because all men are just genetically modified women, even thought they're genetically different enough to be considered separate entities. Same with most races.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 07:51 PM
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Cool, thanks. I just think a lot of people have sort of misrepresented the info, that's all. I think there are people who use it for their own gain considering that there are feminists who think that the male brain is just an "autistic" version of the female brain.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 06:00 PM
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"the male brain is just an autistic female brain" Do the people that say this actually know what autism is. Or how autistic people actually act and function.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 03:58 PM
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Also if you don't mind me asking, what do you mean by the research being outdated? Has someone sort of looked into embryonic development more and found at this really isn't the case at all.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 12:58 PM
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I'm more so referring to this sort of pop science outlook on things. For example, the clit and the penis develop from the same genital bud before the male and female sexes develop. People interpret this as just men having "lady parts" but that's not the case at all; clitorises start to develop after the sex differentiation is triggered. Before then the genital bud is just that; a bud. It doesn't have all the sensitive nerve endings that the clit has nor is it as large or as externally developed.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 12:53 PM
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People act like males start off as female in the womb and then develop until males later on, but genitalia doesn't even develop later in either sex, and until the 6 week point the two are genetically identical. I'm just saying that it's lame that people are trying to misconstrue it into this really lame "pop science" thing.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 05:03 AM
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"3 signs." Oh wait shit let me guess. Nipples. and 2 other really exaggerated things. People do realize that sperms have different sex chromosomes and that embryos are identical until 6 weeks in development, right? Men don't start off as women, men and women just have similar lines of development while they're still in the fetus. They don't even develop genitalia until later. “Everyone comes from a common genetic and developmental framework that is tweaked by sex hormones,” says Richard Bribiesc…
/r/MensRights21/06/16 04:47 AM
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I'm referring to the whole "well, men have nipples!" thing.
/r/MensRights21/06/16 04:45 AM
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Boring, emotionless sex, but okay. The negatives outweigh the positives by a long shot. That and there's evidence of violence and cannibalism in bonobo communities. I know you wanna cling onto this lame "there's no violence!" hippy thing but maybe you should look at how the species operates as a whole. Japan has a low as fuck crime rate and isn't even involved in any wars, yet still has egalitarian principles and even men having roles aside from just being sperm donors and punching bags. What's …
/r/MensRights19/06/16 07:04 PM
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Yeah I heard about reports of bonobos actually resorting to cannibalism. Guess it was true.
/r/MensRights19/06/16 03:08 AM
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When you really look into it bonobos aren't actually that great; all the sex is superficial and would get old extremely fast and the females just attack the males for no reason other then to remind them who's in charge. Not to mention males aren't even allowed to take part in raising their children, and the gender roles are strict as shit, maybe even more so then chimps. Their doesn't actually seem to be any "love" involved in bonobos at all, and any that is (mother/son relationships) don't last…
/r/MensRights19/06/16 02:41 AM
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Wars in a way have essentially helped humans evolve. If there weren't as many wars then human would more then likely still be living in grass huts, technology would rarely if ever actually move forward past primitive tech. Wars fought by men aren't caused by men just being violent sociopaths, they're caused by changes in climate and environment. Also we would not be as NEARLY of a diverse species as we are now. Weird how human matriarchies don't actually seem to hold any gay people or trans peop…
/r/MensRights19/06/16 02:38 AM
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What little research there has been just seems to push a weird gender politics agenda.
/r/MensRights18/06/16 07:41 PM
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Why actually is that? It seems like there's tons of chimps while little bonobos.
/r/MensRights18/06/16 06:55 PM
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Sorry, I'm visiting this topic again. Ryan actually made an article about bonobos on PsychToday where he said that the female bonobos gang up on the males because the males try to "rape them". But de Wal's research doesn't even MENTION male bonobos trying to rape the females. Regardless it's quite obvious that it's a social structure that uses violence to enforce social roles. I'm pretty certain Ryan just made up the part about rape and that females attack the males for little to no reason, and …
/r/MensRights18/06/16 02:54 AM
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I thought some of it also had to do with men being the primary victims of a lot of violence and job-related deaths.
/r/MensRights17/06/16 03:03 AM
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I'm a bit confused. Aren't men's brains still larger then women's due to their bodies being bigger? At least in humans brain size and intelligence don't correlate that well.
/r/MensRights16/06/16 01:00 PM
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I've read a few reviews of his book and a lot of his points just seem bizarre. For example when he's talking about brain size. He said that although men have bigger brains, size has nothing to do with intelligence and THEN goes on to say that when comparing brain size to body weight women outweigh men (even though he literally just said brain size is irrelevant).
/r/MensRights16/06/16 12:07 PM
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I'm mainly asking due to some of Ashley Montagu's work, which seems more like a cult book now that I think about it.
/r/MensRights16/06/16 01:25 AM
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James Flynn carried out an IQ test for boys and girls ages 14-18 in a few rich countries. The results from the test showed boys getting an average score of 100 while in 4 of the 5 nations tested, girls got about 100.5-101.5. He came to the conclusion that girls were catching up to men in terms of education due to them having less options prior. But many people took this test as a way of saying that women are naturally smarter then men, with Flynn himself actually having to come out and say that …
/r/MensRights15/06/16 11:06 AM
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It's so weird because the media in general are the ones perpetuating this shit. Have you heard about what happened with the IQ tests and James Flynn?
/r/MensRights15/06/16 12:52 AM
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Honestly at this point I'm pretty sure both men and women pretty much just see all men as pieces of shit. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rethinking-men/201010/why-some-people-have-issues-men-misandry
/r/MensRights14/06/16 11:29 PM
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I thought he was a anthropologist.
/r/MensRights14/06/16 11:39 AM
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"The greatest human achievement is baring children." That's actually one of the most sexist things you can say about a woman. What about infertile women? Lesbians? Women in general who just aren't interested in having kids? Also he does realize that women can't have children without men impregnating them? Right?
/r/MensRights13/06/16 10:01 PM
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Wasn't he a common guest on Carson Daily though?
/r/MensRights13/06/16 07:45 PM
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"The female body is superior to the male body." Not really, they're just designed for different things. Also Ashley unironically quoted that women are the ones who teach men "what it means to be human", as if all men are just violent monkeys right off the bat and all women are saints and it has nothing to do with a complex combination of a multitude of factors including culture, environment, and biology, and the personal individuals personality as a whole. This is so wildly biased it's amazing.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 02:29 AM
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I read a quote that essentially said that women "teach men to be human." What does that even MEAN?
/r/MensRights13/06/16 02:14 AM
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I just... don't get it. Why? Why do so many men write such terrible shit about men? I don't get it. Are they insecure? Are they trying to impress people? Are they completely self-loathing? I just don't get it.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 02:01 AM
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Misandry has become so normalized in society at this point it's just depressing. The amount of men who openly say that women are all perfect angels and that all men are destroyers and such just pisses me off.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 01:41 AM
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This is the actual summary from goodreads: "Among the central issues of the modern feminist movement, the debate over biology and culture over sex and gender, over genetics and gender roles has certainly been one of the most passionately contested. Making revolutionary arguments upon its first publication in 1953, The Natural Superiority of Women stands as one of the original feminist arguments against biological determinism. An iconoclast, Montagu wielded his encyclopedic knowledge of physical …
/r/MensRights13/06/16 01:29 AM
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I was really contemplating something that happened earlier. I was at graduation and one of the faculty members started talking about domestic violence and how all women are powerful queens and the audience were clapping for a while. He said men were kings next and no one did anything lol. It's ok to build up women but not men apparently.
/r/MensRights12/06/16 10:46 PM
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The scenarios for 68 are just odd, I remember watching a video that showcased 68 that showed all of the men being killed by the one woman. I don't know why.
/r/MensRights07/06/16 12:48 PM
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I know, there's just been discussion about how 68 would function and it ends with all the men raping the one woman.
/r/MensRights06/06/16 10:27 PM
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It really never will. Artificial wombs are not only extremely expensive and timely to do, but they're also just boring as shit. Hey kids, wanna continue to propagate the species? Head on down to the doctors office and let them put artificial eggs in your egg! That sounds fun, doesn't it? Honestly considering that the Y chromosome for humans has stabilized over the course of 25 million years since we diverged with the Rheses monkey from a common ancestor, we'll still be around. We've literally on…
/r/MensRights29/05/16 04:24 PM
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Eh. To be honest the evidence that the Y will disappear is scarce.
/r/MensRights29/05/16 02:05 PM
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The whole Y disappearing theory in general had been disproven though.
/r/MensRights29/05/16 01:19 PM
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Some say that it can survive through technology. Even then the theory that the Y will disappear so is kinda still debated.
/r/MensRights29/05/16 12:18 PM
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This is all based on the Y chromosome disappearing thing.
/r/MensRights29/05/16 11:52 AM
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I've heard people make the argument that past societies were matriarchal and were relatively peaceful but then when agriculture came along societies got patriarchal. They try to use vague evidence as an excuse to treat women as superior people.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 08:57 PM
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It does seem like Japan respects both the genders greatly, though.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 07:47 PM
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Japan is actually pretty damn egalitarian in their treatment of the two genders. They have a day dedicated to celebrating girls but at the same time they have a day celebrating boys, it's just that the one that celebrates girls is called "Girls Day" while the one celebrating boys is called "Children's Day" due to Children's Day formerly being known as Boys Day even thought literally all the same traditions celebrating boys are present; the celebrations for boys and girls are split up. Girls Day …
/r/MensRights26/05/16 07:15 PM
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That isn't an excuse to treat all men as a collective like shit because of the actions of men in the past.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 05:51 PM
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I think a lot of fields like anthropology, biology and sociology have sort of been a bit too supportive of feminism for a while and seem to research things to prove that males either are not needed or they've just been selfish assholes throughout all of human history.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 02:42 PM
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Sorry, I'm just a little peed about fathers maybe getting so much shit and possibly being told that they're just a nuisance.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 02:14 AM
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Just some of the stuff he implies his odd, like when he says that sons shouldn't really take their fathers advice in growing beards or that fatherhood in general is a social construct. I don't know.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 10:42 PM
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I just hate this logic that mother child relationships are absolutely necessary even if said mother is a terrible person, which from the sound of it is sort of what he's implying.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 05:03 PM
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He has an entire section on fragile males and his first ever work about fathers was how fathers were born as an envious attack on motherhood.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 04:49 PM
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If you read it get back to me. I'd like to see what you have to say about it.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 04:36 PM
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I thought it was saying that the mother child bond was necessary.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 04:32 PM
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http://www.sebastiankraemer.com/docs/Kraemer%20No%20such%20thing%20as%20a%20father%20(2nd%20edition).pdf
/r/MensRights25/05/16 04:26 PM
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It makes it seem like mothers are required or else the baby will grow up to be absolutely dysfunctional or something. It seems to just shrug fathers off.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 04:14 PM
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I have a link to the article if you want it.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 04:05 PM
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I mean in terms of super strict gender roles.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 03:10 PM
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Id actually wager that it's unhealthy to have a bond with only one person. Why do you think that Mommas Boys get mocked so much? You can make the argument that having another parent ruins the relationship between a mother and her child but that's really not the case.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 02:50 PM
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But fathers SHOULD be able to have the right to be a parent and to nurture and care for their kids. The inclusion of fathers isn't going to interrupt the mother-child bond, just like how ANY SOCIAL interaction isn't going to; you can have more then one kind of social bond with more then one person. That's my point, people have this idea that mothers and ONLY mothers are able to raise a child, and that Dads are just the third wheel who doesn't know how to do anything. There are tons of single dad…
/r/MensRights25/05/16 12:00 PM
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How are you reading it in that way? It literally states that any sort of male role model, regardless of fatherhood, is a nuisance to the bond between a mom and child. You seem to be twisting the sentence around.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 06:20 AM
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I assumed his point was that male role models in general are interrupting some sort of sacred bond between a mother and her child. Isn't he essentially saying that any sort of divergent path from traditional gender roles is wrong because apparently women are more "in-tune" with the children that they give birth to? He literally states later that in other societies gender doesn't matter due to both men and women nurturing and caring for their young in the essay. He contradicts himself.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 06:18 AM
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Same article mentions the fact that a lot of Danish single moms who choose to become moms through sperm donations are doing just fine is "reassuring." To be honest if it weren't for Danish women getting almost 3k a month in welfare it probably wouldn't be as much. Said moms even realize that it's hard work and some still date in hopes of getting their kids a dad.
/r/MensRights25/05/16 01:18 AM
1

"Look buddy, I know you're a doctor and all, but I'M the one with cancer here. I think I know a little bit more about it then you do. Fucking healthysplainers."
/r/MensRights24/05/16 12:53 AM
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I AM A WOMAN THEREFORE I KNOW MORE ABOUT PERIODS THEN YOU DO EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE DONE MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ABOUT IT!!!!!
/r/MensRights24/05/16 12:33 AM
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I heard its a term for men who try to explain to women issues that specifically face women. To be honest I kinda get that but being a woman doesn't make you fucking omnipotent about everything that every woman faces ever. Just because you might have been sexually harassed before doesn't mean that you know everything there is to know about sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights24/05/16 12:26 AM
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I guess the logic goes is that men aren't allowed to explain to women anything about women because they themselves aren't women? Which is kind of like telling a zoologist that they're not allowed to explain animalistic behavior because they don't fling shit at each other.
/r/MensRights24/05/16 12:14 AM
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How DARE MRA's call people stupid and explain to them why they're stupid. What a bunch of meanies.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 06:07 PM
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I just don't get WHY they get mad about it to begin. It's creepy how much they want women to be oppressed.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:37 PM
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It just seems like they're mad that people called them out for being stupid.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:33 PM
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It's hysterical how passive-aggressive they get about people DARING to claim that middle class American women aren't oppressed by explaining specific myths to others. Why do they want women to be oppressed so bad?
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:32 PM
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It's in general to men's rights people in general because it's apparently something they say a lot.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:39 AM
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Devils Advocate, sorry.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:38 AM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:05 AM
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It actually seems like most men who support fathers rights are men who work their asses off but receive little to no respect or support.
/r/MensRights23/05/16 01:06 AM
1

I didn't even know who Paul Elam was until I saw this article.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 11:54 PM
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Did you read the headline? My problem is that they're trying to use the personal issues and experiences of one obviously troubled man onto everyone else. If they just wanted to talk about that one individual that's fine but no, they had to shoehorn in a "Don't trust men!" narrative. I'm fairly certain it's just something that only Jezebel would do considering how much misandry is on that site in general.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 09:17 PM
1

To be honest the first paragraph is still kinda iffy to me but whatever.
/r/MensRights22/05/16 01:01 AM
1

...It's an edit from 2012? Man, what the hell.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:25 PM
1

I'm looking at the page now and it seems like nothing has been edited.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:24 PM
1

Don't know if you've read any of Sebastian Kraemer's research but he seems to think that fatherhood wasn't even a thing before agriculture.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 07:15 PM
1

Recent archaeological studies have shown that cannibalism was relatively common, though. It existed quite a bit during the Paleolithic era.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:35 PM
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I guess that's sort of why hunter gatherers had to resort to human sacrifice and cannibalism a lot of the time. If it weren't for male hunters securing large amounts of game then they would probably have to kill and eat much more people.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:02 PM
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Because that's what this article essentially implies, that fathers actually wanting to contribute to the raising of their children must automatically translate out to men just being envious of women. It's only ok to believe that basic human biology is voodoo magic if it benefits a group I like.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 01:53 PM
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Kraemer's entire viewpoint just seems to be about putting people down, and to be honest I have yet to see anyone else actually cite his work or agree with anything he says. It seems like all of his research just seems to be based off his own weird ideology about men all being insecure and having fantasies about power and control being OK as long as it's women who have the power and control.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 12:56 PM
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Do you think's its fair to assume then that fatherhood came about as a result of men being "jealous" of women?
/r/MensRights21/05/16 12:42 PM
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Sorry, it's just kind of frustrating. Looking at some of the sources it seems like most of that portion of the article is based on Sebastian Kraemer's work about fatherhood. I've read through it and most of it in general seems to be speculating based off pictures and shoehorning in his own biased viewpoints about a lot of things with a bit of ego-stroking women. Why would this portion of the page be based off of the works of someone who OBVIOUSLY does not have any good faith? He's sees fatherhoo…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 12:34 PM
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"I suggest that the discovery of the facts of conception was a further important factor in the evolution of destructive envy. The fact, as we now have it, that each parent contributes about equal amounts of genetic material, would not be known for many centuries. The only information available at the time was that a small dose of semen is all that is required. The rest, in ritual or imagination, was exposed as fantasy. Given this insult, men became both rivalrous with, and contemptuous of, women…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 12:22 PM
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" You would say that, in the beginning, the first human came out of a female, which is of course the truth." Someone doesn't know how evolution works!
/r/MensRights21/05/16 12:06 PM
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It kinda did.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:54 AM
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The whole section on the Father page in general seems to be based off his work.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:52 AM
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I made a comment on the discussion page about the paragraph and got this: "I don't like it isn't an argument. Like it or not this content is sourced. At least some of these are available online, for example reference #14 (The Golden Bough, Frazer) has links to scans of all the volumes (including the cited 5 & 6) at The Golden Bough. An argument that the sources are unreliable, or don't really support the point being made would be a reasonable approach. That you think it's "asinine", is not. Furt…
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:33 AM
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Okay, THIS is the problem I have with talking about hunter-gatherers. People say all the time that agriculture is what lead to more babies being made, but there were TONS of babies being made when they still hunted and gathered.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:06 AM
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I just find it hard to believe that early humans literally had no idea. They were essentially just a bunch of dumb little kids in grown up bodies of that were the case.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:02 AM
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Could you explain what you mean?
/r/MensRights21/05/16 11:00 AM
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Humans started domesticating dogs long before agriculture was even a thought. The gestation period for dogs was 2 months. Are you serious?
/r/MensRights21/05/16 10:59 AM
1

I never really got the impression that Sparta was matriarchal. I only ever heard that they were also taught how to fight.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:33 AM
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It's good for basic info and the occasional source but outside of that, yeah. It just pisses me off because it sounds like what they're saying is is that when it was discovered that it was FATHERS who were the ones that made women pregnant, that was when women became oppressed. As if fathers aren't ALLOWED to know that they're fathers. Fucking disgusting.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:24 AM
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Read the wikipedia article about fathers.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:20 AM
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Jesus Christ, it was deleted for about 2 hours before it came back. Wikipedia actually believes this nonsense.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:18 AM
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There's a difference between menstrual cycle and sexual reproduction equaling pregnancy. You don't think that after 2 million years of being around herds of sexually active mammals, most of whom had short gestation periods then humans did, that they didn't ever realize that sex leads to babies until AFTER agriculture?
/r/MensRights21/05/16 02:16 AM
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Recent anthropologists suggest that.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 01:26 AM
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It's hysterical because during that time period they were around TONS of mammalian species, most of whom reproduced through sex. Unless the only fucking animals they found during that period were those asexual lizards (who scientists have only said have really been around for a few thousand years, more then likely after we switched to agriculture) then the theory that we didn't know that sex led to babies is ludicrous.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 01:08 AM
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Do you at all believe the theory that early humans thought that pregnancy spontaneously happened without any male contribution?
/r/MensRights21/05/16 01:06 AM
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I just deleted all of it about two hours ago and Wikipedia hasn't changed it yet. It's so weird that they suggest that early humans had no idea how pregnancy works. I've seen people on here suggest the exact same thing but that whole theory seems so amazingly implausible, it's just funny.
/r/MensRights21/05/16 12:50 AM
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What about the Venus figurines?
/r/MensRights21/05/16 12:45 AM
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What should I put?
/r/MensRights20/05/16 11:16 PM
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This actually lines up perfectly with a psychological theory that some woman had in response to Sigmund Freud's "penis envy" theory. Also I find it incredibly hard to believe that for millions of years no one realized how women actually got pregnant. I know that early humans were extremely spiritual and such but jesus christ, they aren't stupid. It's hard to believe that hunter gatherers never discovered a connection between people constantly having sex and constantly having women get pregnant. …
/r/MensRights20/05/16 10:29 PM
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Do you have a source to this if you don't mind me asking?
/r/MensRights20/05/16 09:26 PM
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You should see the wikipedia section on fatherhood. It's kind of amazing
/r/MensRights20/05/16 07:10 PM
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"During the transition to the Neolithic age, agriculture and cattle breeding became the core activities of a growing number of human communities. Breeding in particular is likely to have led women – who used to spend more time than men taking care of the cattle – to observations and considerations which gradually allowed them to discover the procreative effect of the sexual act between a male and a female.[17] For communities which looked at sexuality just as a source of pleasure and an element …
/r/MensRights20/05/16 06:57 PM
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Have they always been, though?
/r/MensRights20/05/16 06:54 PM
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It's just weird because a lot of people speculate that in early human societies that both men and women didn't even REALIZE that males were the only ones that could impregnate females, which makes no sense. In the 2 million years that hunting and gathering was a thing no one made this connection between women constantly being pregnant and men and women constantly having sex? That's extremely hard to believe.
/r/MensRights20/05/16 06:44 PM
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That's my point. Just because these variables and factors were important to the gap 40 years ago doesn't make them unimportant today. Considering that the gap was MUCH bigger back then, it can also probably be attributed to the fact that there were FAR less women in the workforce, let alone full time. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mehroz-baig/women-in-the-workforce-wh_b_4462455.html http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2009.pdf As more women joined the workforce, the gap shrunk. Shocker.
/r/MensRights20/05/16 02:49 AM
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My point is that there are certainly different factors aside from sexism at play when calculating the pay gap, and considering its shrunken significantly since the 70s it's probably due to more women joining the workforce.
/r/MensRights20/05/16 02:34 AM
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Amount of people working full time, hours worked per week, prior education, past job experience, etc.
/r/MensRights20/05/16 12:21 AM
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I don't think it's really fair to shrug off all of the gap is being due to discrimination. There are legitimate financial factors outside of sexism that play a part in it, and even then the gap was much bigger back in the 70s so there more then likely was a portion of it that was based off sexism.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 09:34 PM
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So essentially the pay gap IS based off discrimination and we have been wrong all along. Considering that the 70s were a time where women were still getting situated with full time jobs and such it kinda does hold up relatively well. Economics is complicated and this was made only a decade after the women's rights movement. Not denying that there was a part of it that was based off of discrimination but a lot of it probably WAS based off of the same things that the gap today is based off of. The…
/r/MensRights19/05/16 09:16 PM
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I'm more so talking about the male part. I get that they were mocking both the genders but it kinda seemed like they were really tame when they were mocking the women in comparison to the males who were all violent rapists. Maybe I'm taking it a bit too literally.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 06:39 PM
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Did you ever see the Rick and Morty episode with it in it?
/r/MensRights19/05/16 06:09 PM
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Good stuff. I think most hardcore feminists in general seem to have this weird idea that the only way to truly have equality between the sexes is to just make women the bosses of everything and treat men like shit, and she's mature enough to admit that in a lot of cases, women can be just as insufferably egotistical and dangerous as men can. Hardcore feminists are just power hungry. They don't care about equality as much as they care about just people wanting to worship them for having a vagina.
/r/MensRights19/05/16 01:02 PM
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I think it's hysterical that she thinks that sex is violent because pregnancy hurts, as if when men and women have sex so that the woman can have a kid it's only because the man wants to see the woman in as much pain as possible. It's not like men hate seeing their wives and girlfriends in pain due to pregnancy, they obviously love it because all men are evil! That was their intention; to have the woman go through as much pain as possible, not to have a child with her after both parties agreed t…
/r/MensRights18/05/16 02:30 PM
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Yeah, looking back now that's probably the case. If you don't mind maybe I could ask you a few more questions? I'm still a bit curious.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 04:09 PM
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I've been interested in it as of late. I'm sort of fascinated by how pre historical societies function in a way. It seems like in a lot of ways fertility was pretty big in a lot of societies. I don't know how hunter gatherers were really set up but I do wanna learn more. I know posting in Men's Rights is off putting, so sorry about that.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:58 PM
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Ah, well thank you for the history lesson. It's sort of odd because even the most hardcore of patriarchal societies seemed to have depictions of goddesses and such. From reading a bit more about them it seems like their society in general was kinda complicated. They mention that it was relatively peaceful but at the same time they had weapons and armor and such on standby.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:46 PM
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Did Sparta and the Minoans exist at around the same time?
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:42 PM
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Oh, that sucks. I looked up a bit of the Minoans and it seemed like they worshipped goddesses quite a bit though. Although it seems like they had a lot of rulers and warriors, both male and female. The only matriarchal part of it seems to be the religion.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:22 PM
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It's odd that other societies have completely passed them in terms of technology in such a short period of time. Why do you think that is?
/r/MensRights17/05/16 03:10 PM
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People say shit like drama queens because in TRIVIAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS women can take shit out of proportion even if it's not important. Last time I checked wars are thought over shit that, you know, actually matters.
/r/MensRights17/05/16 01:17 PM
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Yes? I'm talking about birthing.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 07:33 PM
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Actually women did quite a bit of work even with kids, gathering was damn tiring and they usually walked for hours a day while gathering with children in their hands.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 05:36 PM
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Just the fact alone that men have more testosterone is kinda proof that they're much more risky in things they do.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 04:54 PM
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I know that. It just kinda seems like some shit from millions of years ago was carried into humans nowadays and some stuff isn't.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 04:21 PM
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Wait, feminists actually say that? That's kinda fucked up. Not everything has to be viewed from an evolutionary standpoint. Even if men are expendable that doesn't mean we should just kill most of them. I was just curious because I thought that women would be just as risky as men due to the risk for the woman and child that pregnancy has. A lot of people said the same thing with pain tolerance. I guess men are sort of riskier all year around due to not having to worry about pregnancy and child r…
/r/MensRights16/05/16 04:06 PM
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But why is that? Why are men designed to take more risks while women are more risk averse? I mentioned this somewhere else but women take some pretty damn big risks in terms of pregnancy and birth. Isn't that pretty risky in itself? If they can do that then couldn't they take that risk factor into other activities?
/r/MensRights16/05/16 03:46 PM
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It kinda is a risk considering you can potentially die from it. Hunting and protecting is a risk too but it's a risk both men and women are able to take.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 03:40 PM
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Women in general seem to be less risky precisely due to birthing. I've heard a lot of women say stuff like "I gave birth to a few kids, I can do this." But to be honest I think that's more so handling the pain then actually risking their own lives. Men not only are more aggressive in the things they pursue but also don't have to worry about pregnancy. I don't even know if the stuff about women evolving to handle pain more is true.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 03:19 PM
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But isn't that how evolution works? If women were constantly taking risks giving birth the. Wouldn't that translate into many other activities? It's the same thing with pain tolerance.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 02:55 PM
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From an evolutionary stand point I mean. Wouldn't women take a lot of risks too considering the risk of pregnancy and birthing and all that.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 02:25 PM
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Both men and women are important to society and the advancement of the human race. Maybe it's just me but a demographic that never has to worry about pregnancy and is physically stronger and takes more risks is probably really damn useful to the species as a whole. The pinnacle of male achievement is making sure that the species survives. That and tons of technology.
/r/MensRights16/05/16 12:00 PM
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Then why do matriarchal societies never have to go through said environmental changes?
/r/MensRights16/05/16 11:58 AM
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He's one of those anti-vaginal sex guys. lol
/r/MensRights16/05/16 12:34 AM
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Only a few left in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy#By_region_and_culture
/r/MensRights16/05/16 12:21 AM
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"had their discoveries and labor stolen" This has only happened with like one female scientist in all of history lmao.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 11:59 PM
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I've just seen people claim that the only reason why men developed all this technology and such is because women were too busy being oppressed and treated as baby factories to be able to actually do anything else. I don't think that's the whole story, though.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:40 PM
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It's just a strange trend. There have been female rulers and government officials throughout history that have started wars and genocides and such but at the same time there's never an increase of tech when they're in charge. To be honest you can't really have both. You can't be a society that has wars and advanced tech as a result while also being a society that's peaceful and tranquil. You gotta pick one.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 09:56 PM
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There's been tons of female rulers and queens who have done horrible shit and insinuated violent conflicts. Don't know why people act like women aren't capable of using power to their own advantage.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 09:53 PM
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I remember reading some tweet about how women aren't actually the over dramatic ones and that all men are dramatic because all of the wars in the world were started by men. Because wars over resources and government disputes so that your people don't die is similar to high school drama and who called which girl fat.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 04:57 PM
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I'm just saying its a trend that matriarchies aren't that technologically advanced while patriarchies are.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 03:22 PM
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I remember reading a Chris Ryan article once where he unironically said that we don't need any advanced technology and that the ideology of "we're too far to go back now" is incorrect, and we can go back to hunting and gathering at any time. He's straight up delusional.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 02:12 PM
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"The ego is not coextensive with either the personality or the body, although body concepts form the core of early experiences of self. The ego, once developed, is capable of change throughout life, particularly under conditions of threat, illness, and significant changes in life circumstances." So pretty much it has nothing to do with biology.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:36 PM
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So is ego completely psychological then? I thought ego depended on certain parts of the brain functioning depending on the person. Does brain size not even matter?
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:16 PM
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But wait, aren't male brains larger than female ones? I'm pretty certain that the ego isn't an actual biological part of the brain but it's composed of different parts of the brain. If males have larger brains then females then aren't they technically right?
/r/MensRights15/05/16 11:36 AM
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No? My point was that showing either of the sexes to be okay with being slaves to either of the sexes is bad.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 11:21 AM
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So it's more so that both males and females are in charge depending on the situation?
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:20 AM
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"Well it's the case for worms, therefore it must be the case for humans." Because all species have similar brainwaves and thought processes? Just because it's the case for worms doesn't mean it's the case for humans. They themselves in the article that the hermaphrodites are modified females so it's funny that they would use something like this. Are we even related to worms anywhere on the evolutionary lineage? Do people realize that not every species is going to have similar brains and operate …
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:18 AM
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Because it's easier and quicker to reproduce if there were more women then men as apposed to vice versa. That doesn't mean we should shrug off male deaths though.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:16 AM
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To be fair I kinda get why they see women as a more "valuable asset". Having less women and more men would probably fuck up the gene pool quite a bit while having less men and more women would probably be a lot more safe in terms of reproduction.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 03:14 AM
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Are there actually even any hormones that promote lactation in men without, you know, complete estrogen with depression and suicidal side effects?
/r/MensRights15/05/16 02:45 AM
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Why do you think this is?
/r/MensRights15/05/16 01:16 AM
1

So essentially just replacing the powerful and wealthy with people who are just as power hungry.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 01:16 AM
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I just don't get where this idea that equality is synonymous with female supremacy came from.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:48 AM
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Have you read up on any of Chris Ryan's work? The dude is amazingly biased.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:43 AM
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It's on the wikipedia page for bonobos. I'm pretty certain it's got something to do with Christopher Ryan's research. That dude is so blatantly biased and delusional it's scary how many supporters he has.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:41 AM
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I just don't get it. It's so fucked up how nowadays equality is now synonymous with women having more power over men and men being treated like shit. I don't know what the fuck happened to the UN for it to get this way, I'm just so sick and tired of people acting like society would be so much better if women had all the power and men had none and were essentially reduced to being slaves. These people are disgusting.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 12:39 AM
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This kinda makes me depressed. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11931886/Male-brain-is-programmed-to-seek-out-sex-over-food.html
/r/MensRights14/05/16 11:39 PM
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I mean if this were the case then every society in all of history would have been matriarchal. I hate the idea that societies that were "egalitarian" were also societies that were matriarchies. Like bonobos, who were obviously female-dominated but people say all males and females were treated fairly even though they obviously weren't.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 11:27 PM
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I wouldn't go that far. Don't go into MGTOW territory, dude.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 11:09 PM
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Even said men who fit into these stereotypes wouldn't go to such ridiculous lengths just to get some tail. Do you think these guys would willingly sell themselves as fucking pets if it meant having sex? I doubt that.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 10:53 PM
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It's sort of easy just to claim that it was the result of the director having Mommy issues and while that's an option I'm still really not too sure.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 10:48 PM
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"Men would probably fuck anything if it meant getting off! Hahaha!" Women use hot dogs as dildos.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 10:47 PM
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There's truth in the statement that men would do anything if it meant that they could get laid? That's demeaning as shit. I actually like having rights and opportunities outside of being a walking dildo.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 10:45 PM
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But even if some men were show offs that didn't mean all of them were. I've seen reviews of the book where people admit that they have had negative opinions on men in general and just by reading the book they made it worse.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 11:18 AM
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I suppose, but you have to admit that the twenty pages full of talking about male lactation is very odd. Men and fathers can still be nurturing and caring without completely morphing their bodies. Is there even any hormones that just affect lactation and nothing else? I doubt it. I think just the fact that people suggest that we starve men and then before they die we feed them so they lactate is fucking scary as shit.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 05:38 AM
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It just seems like kind of a petty way to claim superiority to be honest. The theory that males are just a genetic accident is kinda dumb.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 05:13 AM
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I don't know, it's confusing. Maybe it's a result of really outdated research?
/r/MensRights14/05/16 04:35 AM
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I don't even know what he means by "pathological apparition" to be honest.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 04:06 AM
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I'm still sort of torn about the X chromosome thing. I think it's pretty much been proven that people with Turners are women, and people with only one Y are just aborted fetuses. Maybe if the Y had the same regenerative properties that the X had it would do the same thing?
/r/MensRights13/05/16 11:37 PM
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To be honest I really wouldn't take anyone who puts "misanthrope" and "slightly autistic" as being someone that's worth listening to lol.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 11:19 PM
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I was responding to your claim that if there are no males then there are no males.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 10:57 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail
/r/MensRights13/05/16 10:40 PM
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Eh, I don't know. I asked the same question on another site and got this: https://www.quora.com/Is-the-fact-that-Turner-syndrome-exists-means-that-the-original-template-for-all-humans-is-female/answer/Abhay-Oak-1?__snids__=1657250438&__nsrc__=1&__filter__=all
/r/MensRights13/05/16 10:28 PM
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What about Alfred Jost's work? Wasn't he the one who essentially found this?
/r/MensRights13/05/16 10:04 PM
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But I thought the SRY gene was the main gene that determined male sex depending on the chromosome that the sperm has. Technically all embryos start off as either male or female depending on the sperm and they both just follow a similar blueprint at first. I don't really think evolution can entirely match up with how babies are formed, though. I highly doubt that women walked the Earth before men.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 09:33 PM
1

You do realize that the female blueprint of development is how all people develop, right? Only after a few weeks does the SRY gene activate to create males.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 09:10 PM
1

What about the fact that, in a way, all humans start out as female in the womb? From that perspective being female is the natural state.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 08:33 PM
2

Actually wait, shit. When he says "conversely" does he mean that on the other hand female chauvinists might say that men are a necessary evil? Shit, I think I fucked up.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 08:17 PM
1

I'm reading the reviews right now and a lot of them are sort of laughable.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 07:49 PM
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He spends a solid 20 pages talking about why men aren't able to lactate. You sure he's just being facetious? His theory that men only hunted to show off is kinda dumb considering that not only were there tribes that are mostly meat, but also there was a pretty damn high amount of infanticide and cannibalism during our nomadic not only due to overpopulation of tribes but also due to lack of food in general depending on the area. I don't think you can really say that men didn't have any noble inte…
/r/MensRights13/05/16 07:32 PM
1

I hope that he was being ironic when he suggested that men should start taking hormones so that they can start to lactate and feed babies just like women can even though cow milk already exists.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 07:08 PM
1

I don't know, maybe I am reading too much into it. Jared himself admits that most of the book is speculation and I'm pretty certain new studies in the past 20 years have found other reasons for males being necessary aside from "just to create more women. So is he essentially parodying female chauvinists then?
/r/MensRights13/05/16 06:46 PM
1

Do you not think that text such as that is pretty damn misandric?
/r/MensRights13/05/16 06:26 PM
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I'm sort of confused. So he's saying that while it's tempting to put his words in emotionally loaded phrases he puts into into emotionally loaded phrases anyways? It just seems like he's taking an extremely passive aggressive pot shot at males considering that thought out the book he says that males didn't actually care about feeding their families when we were nomadic and that they were just trying to show off.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 06:24 PM
0

There are lizard species that reproduce asexually that are obviously female.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 05:01 PM
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Then he's correct in saying that the first X is the main template for humans, so males are genetically modified women.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 04:19 PM
-1

Could you explain? I think it's pretty obvious that people with only one X chromosome are women.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 04:14 PM
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Even if it is impaired they're still female, so technically the original template for all humans is female.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 03:36 PM
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My point was that humans with only one X are women so him saying that males are genetically modified women is kind of correct.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 03:11 PM
1

But aren't both men and women technically genetically modified? There's a reason why Turner syndrome exists. Humans that can survive with only X chromosome are women. Men that have only a Y are just aborted fetuses.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 02:29 PM
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It's like saying that the history of Asia is actually black peoples history because everyone is from Africa. But technically men ARE genetically modified humans though, but then again women are as well. They're still distinct enough.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 01:25 PM
1

I guess it really isn't a surprise as more women join the workforce full time the more the gap decreases. I've seen shit about the wage gap from books in like 2011, though.
/r/MensRights11/05/16 05:35 PM
1

But wouldn't that mean that some of the pay gap was due to discrimination at least at first?
/r/MensRights11/05/16 04:53 PM
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Is it even a recent thing? Apparently the shit with pay inequality has been around for decades now.
/r/MensRights11/05/16 04:05 PM
1

Households without fathers are usually either impoverished or have social and psychological setbacks.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 02:38 PM
1

It's just sad to be honest. Dads in general are kind of viewed as nothing more but just being walking wallets and occasional babysitters when the Mom isn't able to do it. Do these people not realize that if FATHERS didn't exist then none of us would be here? It just pisses me off that fathers contributions to raising their kids are still shrugged off for the "real parent" even when people say that deadbeat dads are the worst people in the world.
/r/MensRights09/05/16 10:58 PM
2

I think it also might be due to the fact that a lot of homes in the US are single parent where the mother is said single parent.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 11:41 PM
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People kinda gloss over men's contributions to families. It sucks.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 11:29 PM
1

Ah, sorry. I still don't really think women are oppressed because bikinis are a thing, though.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 07:01 PM
1

You sounded like you were comparing the act of wearing entire cloths over your body to just covering your boobs.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 06:36 PM
1

Then explain your point again because it sounds like you're actively comparing Burqas to bikinis.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 06:24 PM
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I just don't really understand why our culture specifically does this.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 05:27 PM
-1

Except that there are cultures where women are allowed to walk around top less freely.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 04:43 PM
1

Or out of social stigmas
/r/MensRights08/05/16 03:24 PM
0

Because men should be able to control themselves if a woman wants to go around naked?
/r/MensRights08/05/16 02:15 PM
0

The mans.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 01:52 PM
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I've never even heard of primitive societies where women walked around topless. Did said primitive societies also have men walking around with their dicks out? Also are you actually comparing wearing Burqas to wearing bikinis? Are you for real?
/r/MensRights08/05/16 11:32 AM
1

I just don't get why women's breasts are not allowed but men's are.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 04:29 AM
1

Would the breasts technically be a sex organ though? I mean they are sort of important in terms of nourishing newborns.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 04:27 AM
1

I think the difference is that male nipples are allowed to be shown whole female ones aren't.
/r/MensRights08/05/16 02:52 AM
1

Then how would you say it works?
/r/MensRights08/05/16 01:30 AM
1

Do straight men also get erections if they're in prison and they're raped by other male prisoners? Just curious.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:59 PM
1

I'm talking about straight women in general.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:49 PM
1

In a hypothetical sense. It's like some shit you'd hear a movie villain say. "Your mouth says no, but your body says yes!"
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:48 PM
1

Eh Idk, I'm still sort of skeptical. Actually now that I think about it, I've read a study that actually states that gay women's brains are similar in size and structure as straight men's brains are and gay men's brains are similar to straight women's.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:42 PM
1

Then it's both, really.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:35 PM
1

I disagree with the hugging part. I think once guys get older they're more free to hug people. But maybe you're right. I'm just sort of thinking in my head that if women are either bi or gay, then what's the point of even being attracted to men? The whole issue with things such as fatherless homes can be solved in a second.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:30 PM
1

But then why are women biologically hardwired to be attracted to men but also are sexually stimulated from videos of women having sex? Isn't sexuality biological?
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:16 PM
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But aren't the brain and the body programmed differently in a lot of ways? Just because straight women are turned on by lesbian porn doesn't mean that they are biologically hardwired to be gay.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:07 PM
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Err, sorry. I meant that there are women who get wet at the THOUGHT of being raped. Rape fantasies, and such. Worded it in a fucked up way, sorry.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:04 PM
1

But didn't they also test the women's level of arousal in their vaginal areas?
/r/MensRights07/05/16 11:02 PM
1

It's just such a weird concept. There are also cases of women getting wet when being raped, does that mean all women secretly want to be raped?
/r/MensRights07/05/16 10:47 PM
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I'm pretty certain that there were also studies conducted where women were also aroused by pictures of food and even monkeys having sex. Does this mean that all women are into beastiality? The body and the brain just work differently. If that were the case then why would women bother being attracted to men to begin with? The whole problem with single parent households could be fixed.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 10:05 PM
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The body and the brain react differently to each other. They might get "aroused" by certain things but they might not identify as being lesbians. Most women are straight in their heads and are comfortable as being straight.
/r/MensRights07/05/16 09:56 PM
1

It still gives insight as to discrimination that could exist.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 01:05 AM
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Where did you get the idea that the study is hypothetical?
/r/MensRights05/05/16 12:46 AM
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Not really. If you account for wage negotiations then the remaining 2-4% goes away.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 12:30 AM
1

Except that the main point of the study suggests that mothers are paid less just for their status as mothers, regardless of actual hours worked.
/r/MensRights05/05/16 12:03 AM
1

Also you do realize the same can be said for harems with mostly men and one woman right? I'm pretty sure there are actual sociological reasons besides letting you sit on your ass while everyone else does shit to contribute to the unit.
/r/MensRights04/05/16 10:17 PM
1

"It's good because it means that other people can do things that I don't wanna do for me!" lol
/r/MensRights04/05/16 10:05 PM
1

Pretty sure he was just trying to get into Walt's head.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 05:32 PM
2

Here's a link to the article http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/natural-muscular-potential-women/
/r/MensRights02/05/16 08:53 PM
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To be honest I'm pretty certain that body building and picking which career you want to pursue are two entirely different things. Both men and women have sort of shed from their roots of hard labor for pure survival and can pretty much pick cushy office jobs depending on what they're interested in. That's sort of what it comes down to, men and women pick different shit to do and take care of. Although, hunter-gatherer women DID carry their babies with them whenever they went gathering for the fi…
/r/MensRights02/05/16 07:41 PM
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Except that we've rarely ever focused on how physically strong women can get because they haven't really been put into roles where they can build muscle.
/r/MensRights02/05/16 06:40 PM
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http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/natural-muscular-potential-women/
/r/MensRights02/05/16 06:39 PM
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Because for thousands of years women didn't really get a chance to gain muscle and men did.
/r/MensRights02/05/16 06:36 PM
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Kinda like how women are afraid to let go of their feminine identifiers by not wanting to be included in the military draft. I just think it's funny because all these people who make fun of guys because they have to share masculine traits with women would flip their shit if women were to be included in the military draft along with men. Equality isn't a picnic table, you can't just chose which rights and freedoms you want and which ones you don't. You really have no jurisdiction over saying that…
/r/MensRights01/05/16 10:27 AM
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I'm pretty certain that both men and women have ego's and self-esteem. It's just laughable because everyone whines about how big the male ego is and they they go back to stroking women's egos by talking about how they're the all around superior sex. What the fuck lol.
/r/MensRights01/05/16 01:45 AM
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Do you have any links?
/r/MensRights01/05/16 01:25 AM
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Because I have female friends and family who I don't want thinking I'm a rapist because of some dumbass study?
/r/MensRights01/05/16 01:04 AM
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I know but apparently there were other studies prior to this.
/r/MensRights01/05/16 12:59 AM
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I'm serious man. Studies like this actually piss me off. I feel like I can't even look at dudes in a friendly non biased way because of shit like this.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 11:15 PM
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It just seems so odd to me that people would come up with a seemingly complicated plan just to support this dumb narrative that "rape culture" exists, and the idiots in the comments section are eating this shit up. Also apparently there have been past studies done before that have come to the same conclusion? I don't know what method they used, though.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 01:35 AM
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So pretty much it was intentionally manipulated to get the result that they wanted.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 12:46 AM
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"Bad people exist which means you can't trust anyone!" Truly amazing detective work.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 12:43 AM
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If you don't mind can you post a link to the thread?
/r/MensRights30/04/16 12:10 AM
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I'm just so confused as to how they actually carried out the study. They must have asked them so extremely broad questions.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 09:30 PM
1

I think I saw some people in the comments say that this correlates with past studies about the same thing.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 08:40 PM
1

She actually said that?
/r/MensRights29/04/16 08:39 PM
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I just don't see the point. To be honest I'm pretty sure they're trying to imply that this represents the entirety of the male population with a fucking sample number of 86 at one college.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 08:24 PM
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Also all the participants are conveniently white. Lucky that.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 08:18 PM
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Are they for real? I get that college kids are douchebags but I can't buy the fact that they're this morally bankrupt.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 08:08 PM
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Ah, you're right. We CAN'T have people going around thinking that non white men are bad. Just white men. What is the study even supposed to imply? That if you had a group of 3 men then 1 of them would consider raping someone under specific circumstances?
/r/MensRights29/04/16 07:52 PM
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Actually now that I think about it, isn't it sort of fishy that they only interviewed WHITE dudes? Like, no other race was included in the study. Just white. I know that whites are the majority in a lot of schools but are you telling me that they couldn't get any other non-white men to take part in it?
/r/MensRights29/04/16 07:43 PM
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Some of the shit lol "NOTICE how everyone trying to disprove this article is male? coincidence? I think not"
/r/MensRights29/04/16 06:55 PM
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Oh yeah I've heard about that. The questions were EXTREMELY broad and you can sort of tell they were actively looking for the answers that they wanted. Some guy in the comments linked to a video about it but it got deleted.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 06:45 PM
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I just think this shit is fear mongering at this point.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 06:41 PM
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Wouldn't anyone regardless of gender do terrible shit if they could get away with it?
/r/MensRights29/04/16 06:31 PM
1

To be fair, the few matriarchal societies that exist today ARE relatively peaceful. That might be due to the low population size and lack of advanced technology, though.
/r/MensRights29/04/16 12:04 PM
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My gym has people mostly losing weight. If they're trying to gain muscle then both guys and girls are.
/r/MensRights25/04/16 02:40 PM
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Or enhance them.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 11:13 PM
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"Social norms makes up the general public." It really doesn't. Most people work out in moderation, speaking as a teen myself most parents nowadays encourage both men and women to exercise and build body and muscle mass. It's not the 50s anymore. The whole "everything is socially constructed" thing is such an easy thing to go to at this point. Like there can never be any sort of difference between people from the day they were conceived. It's such a hollow "theory".
/r/MensRights24/04/16 10:26 PM
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"I'm not talking about bodybuilders" That's debatable considering your sources are from bodybuilding sites.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 09:06 PM
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It's not like they're our main evolutionary ancestors. You don't think some stuff from our time as chimps might have carried over?
/r/MensRights24/04/16 09:02 PM
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What I was referring to is that people think biological differences have nothing to do with physical strength, which isn't true. Most men don't even work out or become super strong from training. If anything they work out BECAUSE shit like video games exist, they do it to lose weight, not gain muscle. I don't know how old you are, but stuff has changed lol.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:59 PM
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But sexual dimorphism isn't. Even male chimpanzees were physically stronger their female counterparts.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:55 PM
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My original point was that men's starting point is that they start out as stronger and then with physical training men and women can achieve similar body statures. Even if testosterone is overshadowed by something else it still plays an important role in muscle development without physical training. Not everyone is a bodybuilder, dude.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:53 PM
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"Ask the designer" You mean biologists? They aren't the designers but they probably know them personally. Also I am talking about biology. Women have a more easier time connecting to other people on average due to their biology.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:47 PM
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I agree with you that with enough training they can be similar in strength, but without strenuous physical training the biological differences kind of shine through. Most women don't have the time or focus to be on the same level of physical strength as Chyna is.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:36 PM
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It kinda does considering that testosterone is the main component that is used to build muscle mass. On average women are physically weaker then men are regardless if they train or not.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:27 PM
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For anyone wondering what I'm referring to http://www.amazon.com/Frailty-Myth-Redefining-Physical-Potential/dp/0375758151 Pretty certain that the word "testosterone" isn't even mentioned in the book.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:24 PM
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Men on average have more muscle mass. Weren't men essentially designed to be the physically stronger of the two sexes regardless of training?
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:20 PM
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But doesn't women's lesser amount of testosterone also account for it?
/r/MensRights24/04/16 08:16 PM
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*stronger physical strength
/r/MensRights24/04/16 07:26 PM
1

You seem like you have issues.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 10:17 PM
1

Have you ever thought that breast cancer probably gets more attention because that form of cancer is much more fatal then prostate cancer? Breast is more likely to cause death, prostate is more likely to be around when you die but not directly kill you. http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/breast-cancer-young-women Not to mention the fact that prostate cancer grows MUCH slower then breast cancer does, even if both forms of cancer happen at similar ages.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 10:05 PM
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Then may I see a study that debunks this?
/r/MensRights22/04/16 08:49 PM
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Of course there are people in the comments whining about how it's not a post about women. Can't we EVER talk about the issues that one gender faces without talking about the other? One of them literally said that imgur promotes a "white male victim narrative" as if it's impossible for men (race has nothing to do with it, sort of obvious that you're a biased dipshit who jumped on the "check your privilege" bandwagon) to ever talk about issues in society that THEY alone face.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 04:59 PM
1

They're still both pretty big problems.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 04:59 PM
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Really I just think that people should be able to choose something that will probably affect them for the rest of their lives.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 04:13 PM
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Unless people decide to do a mass mutilation of male genitals lmao
/r/MensRights22/04/16 01:11 PM
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It's just so odd how we only care about humans rights to their bodies when it only applies to women.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 11:31 AM
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I'm just curious is all. I feel like for some reason we're perfectly ok with mutilating a dudes genitals because it provides "benefits." Women having kids reduces risk of having certain types of cancers, does that mean abortion should be illegal? I don't know, I just feel like unless the male genitals are COMPLETELY cut off entirely then no one gives a shit, and even THEN they'll probably find a way to justify it.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 11:12 AM
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Health benefits, sorry.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 10:57 AM
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The average age of women with breast cancer is 25. Average age of men with prostate cancer is 60+.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 10:22 AM
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Honestly at the end of the day aren't males and females two completely different things from the single X chromosome? We're all genetically modified pretty much.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 04:03 PM
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Honestly at the end of the day who cares about genetics lmao. We're all human.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 03:15 PM
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So really evolution made it so that organisms are SUPPOSED to have two chromosomes but there are some errors for people.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 01:48 PM
1

I guess Turner syndrome is just some sort of genetic mutation that evolved in certain humans then?
/r/MensRights20/04/16 10:41 AM
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PsychToday is pandering trash.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 10:40 AM
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Also I can't tell if Demonspawn is being facetious abut her being right.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 01:06 AM
1

honestly is either of the sexes came before one or the other wouldn't the vast majority of species not even exist?
/r/MensRights20/04/16 12:54 AM
1

Wait, aren't there lizards and snakes who can reproduce asexually though? Or are they not considered mammals?
/r/MensRights20/04/16 12:34 AM
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Pretty sure they even debunk it in the comments lmao. But still, wouldn't it be logical that if one sex came first in terms of humans then we would probably not even exist at this point?
/r/MensRights20/04/16 12:18 AM
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In general it's sort of a dumb concept/theory that I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark and say to push a narrative of chauvinism.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 12:17 AM
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It's confusing as shit, isn't it? Really I'm just sort of tired of people claiming that women "created" men, or that female humans predated male ones without any scientific evidence or very little that holds any water.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 11:54 PM
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Technically don't the embryos start off as either male or female from the get go depending on the chromosome of the sperm cell that fertilized the egg?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 11:46 PM
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Really I'm just looking at it through a lens of survival. I mean, males were literally CREATED as the more disposable of the two sexes, so what would be the point of having the less disposable one come first? It doesn't really make that much sense, it just seems odd. Also, Facebook: https://www.reddit.com/r/DebunkThis/comments/3cbf7h/debunk_this_women_predate_men/
/r/MensRights19/04/16 11:40 PM
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Logically if either of the sexes "came first" then humanity would have gone extinct by now. Literally both the male and female bodies in all mammals were BUILT to be accommodated by one another. It would not make sense if one came before another; they both evolved at the same time and rate. I've literally heard people claim that women CREATED men as a genetic experiment, like males are just a lab project gone wrong. It's kinda dumb.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 11:30 PM
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Really at this point I'm just curious with the evolutionary scenario. So did the "programmers" develop the base program and the second language at the same time? Or did the base program come first?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 11:14 PM
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It is essentially rhetoric and it's sort of given way to a lot of really strange and nonsensical theories. I've heard theories that human women actually came first and then later they "created" males but that doesn't even make any sense.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 11:01 PM
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Wait, so are you saying that she's correct in her assumption? But you literally just called her out. Also about the artistic creativity thing? Please proceed to the clitoris. Anyways how would that even make sense? If female humans came first and then male humans later wouldn't humanity sort of just go extinct within a few generations? Due to the lack of genetic variation among offspring plus the more difficulty of adapting to harsher environments? It literally makes no sense to have females evo…
/r/MensRights19/04/16 10:44 PM
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I was curious in the first place mainly because of dumbass shit like this which just reaches for straws https://aghuddleston001.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/women-came-before-men/#comments
/r/MensRights19/04/16 10:08 PM
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It's kinda petty shit but feminists use the fact that "women came first" as bragging.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 10:03 PM
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Ah, NOW I get it. So essentially the X is the template for all life and the second chromosome is supposed to be the one that supplies all of the correct genes and DNA? So males really ARE just genetically modified females. But what about from an evolutionary perspective? If the X and Y split up sometime millions of years ago then technically females did come first?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 09:41 PM
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But isn't X just the template to create life? I'm sorry but everything I've looked up about the X and Y doesn't even imply that single X organisms are female. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 09:11 PM
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Is there any documented evidence that single X females even exist? Are they even possible in humans?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 09:10 PM
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Well then by that logic single X organisms don't even have a sex to begin with. How is it that single X organisms are female?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 08:08 PM
1

Wait, so single X organisms are female? I thought female was strictly classified as XX.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 07:31 PM
1

Well by default state, are we talking about embryos?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 07:06 PM
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Lol naw I've just seen many theories that in terms of evolution women came first. I've got some articles if you wanna check it out
/r/MensRights19/04/16 07:05 PM
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I don't understand.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 06:19 PM
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So am I right in saying that women are the default state while men are modified in a way to suit sexual reproduction?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 06:17 PM
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In the womb it's more like the baby is a hermaphrodite and then after 6 weeks they start to develop male or female genitals. If anything it's not really that women are the default as much as it is they have two separate lines of development. Does this mean that women came before men did or did they walk the earth at the same time?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 06:16 PM
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But isn't the X in general sort of associated with women?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 06:14 PM
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Actually if you'd let me I'd like to play devils advocate for a second. Why aren't males YY instead of XX then? Is it because the 1st X is the main template for both the sexes and then the 2nd X and Y are just sex determining genes? The 2nd just deactivates a lot of its genes, so wouldn't that mean that the X specifically has female biological traits involved in it? So aren't people technically right when they say that men are just genetically modified women?
/r/MensRights19/04/16 05:51 PM
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That sounds uncomfortable as shit.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 05:33 PM
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I've actually seen people try to claim that women walked the Earth before men did because of the extra rib shit. But honestly if you're actually gonna use extra bones and bigger genes as a way to claim superiority over someone you're just a petty loser.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 05:31 PM
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I mean, guys have larger brains and more muscle mass. Guess that means men are innately superior...
/r/MensRights19/04/16 05:27 PM
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Also aren't women more vulnerable to auto immune diseases? Maybe that rib did more harm then good.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 05:25 PM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 05:24 PM
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Sorry, should probably clarify; lots of radical feminists and chauvinists had used this supposed "fact" as a way of showcasing women's innate superiority.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 05:18 PM
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Isn't creepy in general sort of subjective? It'd be like if white people started telling black people to be less scary, it's generalizing nonsense
/r/MensRights18/04/16 05:42 PM
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Isn't creepy in general sort of subjective? It'd be like if white people started telling black people to be less scary, it's generalizing nonsense
/r/MensRights18/04/16 05:42 PM
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Eh fuck it, I'm just gonna delete this.
/r/MensRights17/04/16 08:50 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4f7ys6/why_does_dean_ambrose_have_so_many_fangirls/ I'm posting this because I sort of thought this how it is for anyone who follows this thread that goes outside this thread.
/r/MensRights17/04/16 08:45 PM
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you gonna shit on me?
/r/MensRights17/04/16 08:28 PM
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So pretty much huge insecure losers who really want women to like them? Seems legit.
/r/MensRights17/04/16 01:36 PM
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To be fair, at least he DOES put a somewhat realistic spin on it. Like none of that "no violence!" bullshit that a lot of people theorize. Also has anyone noticed how 9 times out of 10 when people make stories about all men disappearing it's MADE by a guy? I've always wondered why that's the case.
/r/MensRights17/04/16 11:51 AM
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Unless cloning is invented and they perfect the use of artificial insemination, then there you go. They still need people to stabilize said methods of insemination using scientific methods (which only men worked on, try figuring out how that's gonna work) and that probably means that the vast majority of women on the planet would be forced to get pregnant just to make up for lost numbers. That's sort of the reason why males and sexual reproduction exists in the first place; it makes life much, M…
/r/MensRights17/04/16 11:40 AM
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Technically wouldn't the women sort of just be forced to do jobs that they otherwise wouldn't want to do? That's the beauty of having the two sexes split down the middle in most countries: both CHOOSE freely what they wanna do. If anything due to the intense low population rate, not only would women sort of HAVE to take up jobs just to keep the economy stable but they'd also have to completely become baby making machines just to fill up the empty space that the disappearance of men left. That an…
/r/MensRights17/04/16 11:32 AM
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Being a housewife is hard but it'd being a payed job is sort of like giving babysitters over the weekend a 3 million dollar salary lol
/r/MensRights16/04/16 10:49 PM
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You think he realizes how many fatherless homes there are in the US that are below the poverty line?
/r/MensRights16/04/16 06:20 PM
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Reading some of the interviews and summaries now I think he was sort of making statements about both the sexes in a way. Then again... "Australian or otherwise, Sawers added that men are basically redundant in his view. “I’ve certainly been aware for a long time that men have no purpose,” he said. “I have two kids and the feeling, for me, that at any particular point I could step away for a long time and it really wouldn’t have that much of an impact on the situation? My wife couldn’t do that. O…
/r/MensRights16/04/16 12:48 PM
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Didn't you know that single-father homes don't exist? There definitely aren't household that literally NEED fathers to survive, not only in terms of economics and putting food on the table but also emotional support and connection as well. I fucking love the constant 180s that people take. So being a deadbeat dad is disgusting and awful because you need to be there to support your kids but at the same time you aren't really needed there because the family could 'probably' get by without you?
/r/MensRights16/04/16 11:39 AM
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Actually now that I think about it how does the premise of this world even make sense So when all women gain the ability to immediately reproduce asexually, their first instinct is to completely tell men to fuck off? What sense does that make? Are all the men infertile? Why not just use a system where both asexual and sexual reproduction are present and you can reap the benefits of both? Why have all the women suddenly become lesbians even though that sexual attraction is literally HARDWIRED in …
/r/MensRights16/04/16 10:48 AM
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I'm just conflicted. Im not gonna kill myself or anything like that, I've just been thinking things through in my head for a while now. I really should move on and just think happy thoughts
/r/MensRights16/04/16 02:51 AM
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I'm pretty sure they just switch their ideologies based on whatever they're talking about at the time. "Women should be let in the army! I mean, OBVIOUSLY if a woman were running this country there'd be no wars, but still let women in the army!" ok
/r/MensRights16/04/16 02:29 AM
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Where do people even get this idea that if women ruled the world we'd be living in a utopian society anyways? Like I see one of the main points is "No wars!" but fuck man, women get into violent conflicts all the time based on custody, money, romantic relationships (you should see the stats for lesbian domestic violence). It's just sort of hysterical how they're essentially implying that all women are delicate gentle little flowers, you know, that thing that feminism has been trying to get away …
/r/MensRights16/04/16 02:18 AM
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I'm being semi-sincere. I'm just sort of opening up to a lot of the shit people are saying now.
/r/MensRights16/04/16 01:52 AM
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Should I repost this on the depression thread?
/r/MensRights16/04/16 01:46 AM
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For the record, my main point was that just because there are people who seem to be more expendable or have less "worth" then others doesn't mean we should just kill them off or let them die like it's a damn holocaust. I mean yeah, men were built to be the stronger, risk-taking ones, but that doesn't mean ALL men have to do it. And just because we have new alternate ways for reproduction (artificial sperm from bone marrow, etc) doesn't give anyone any right to say "Let's kill all men! We don't n…
/r/MensRights15/04/16 11:53 PM
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Actually now that I think about it, if that's the case then how come those asexual lizards didn't die out already? They barely have any genetic diversity so how are they still around?
/r/MensRights15/04/16 11:06 PM
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You still NEED a womb, though. Give it 50 years and we'll have artificial wombs but until then...
/r/MensRights15/04/16 08:53 PM
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I've been hearing a lot of feminists say that with the influx of ways to create artificial sperm that men really aren't need for reproduction anymore.
/r/MensRights15/04/16 08:41 PM
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That really isn't any excuse to treat men like actual meat shields. They're still damn human, I just don't think looking at everything through the lens of biological science with no emotional detachment at all isn't really the way too go. This IS a men's rights forum. I thought the point was to point out that men SHOULDNT be used as eternal meat shields (I.e military draft)
/r/MensRights15/04/16 08:08 PM
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So do you agree with her statement that men, at least from a evolutionary standpoint, are essentially worthless?
/r/MensRights15/04/16 07:47 PM
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Did you hear about the artificial sperm?
/r/MensRights15/04/16 07:42 PM
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Couldn't you say the same about women being oppressed as humans evolved to be agricultural, though?
/r/MensRights15/04/16 07:32 PM
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It's just sort of depressing, you know? I've been reading up on evolutionary biology and literally just from the damn get go it seemed like men's only purpose to the species is just making sure that they help out whoever needs help.
/r/MensRights15/04/16 07:22 PM
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/r/MensRights15/04/16 07:08 PM
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