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Accusing me of lying. Pathetic. What makes you think I don't have children anyway? What makes you think rich men don't have children or don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:36 PM
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Up to you. Here is the thing. I am literally 10k times richer than my sugar babies. So I make money she manage the house. It's just normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:17 AM
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Non issue because I can easily pay. Yes if I couldn't pay I would do 50-50. Look many men run away from their children. not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:14 AM
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baby sitters. I do teach my children math
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:12 AM
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what makes you think I don't love my children? So many men abandon their children you know
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:05 AM
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Yes. One of my favorite sugar baby just dumped me for no reason and can't be contacted. But at the last moment I didn't spend money either. Someone else lend her money and I have no idea how things work with them.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 09:31 AM
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Depends on the men. As a multimillionaire that's already 40+ I want MANY children. I had 4 already. Basically I want blood lines to pass my money on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:00 AM
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But yea we have tons of people wanting you to make that stupid mistakes. So don't get married. Keep things transactional.
/r/MensRights14/07/24 03:05 PM
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From evolutionary psychology men want quantity of women and women want quality. Men only need to squirt sperms and women need to get pregnant. So women always aim up. Men, don't mind lowering their standard. Top 1% males would happily fuck top 10 percent women as long as there are a few. Monogamy is price control that don't happen normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:53 PM
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Marriage, not even once. Can men just pay women to give him children? Not my children I am not paying.
/r/MensRights14/07/24 02:49 PM
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Here is a strategy I use to avoid all kind of scam. Makes things transactional. She doesn't like me, I don't spend money. Don't get married. I think love and romance are fraud and fiction created to confuse men AND women to get worse fuck deals. Women that could have gotten richer men pick poorer men out of love. Rich men that could have fuck women by just paying end up marrying. Stupid. Just pay. In my country it works just fine.
/r/MensRights14/07/24 02:48 PM
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Paternity tests won't save him. He chose to get married unfortunately. Even if paternity tests show it's not his son, he will have to pay. Yes paternity tests should be mandatory. So is not getting married.
/r/MensRights13/07/24 12:02 PM
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How do women manipulate men into getting married in the first place. I think prenup is even dumber than not marrying at all. You already know that standard marriage rules sucks. You want to modify it with prenup. Why not just be sugar daddies?
/r/MensRights13/07/24 12:01 PM
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let us know.
/r/MensRights13/07/24 12:00 PM
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bullshit are usually unfalsifiable.
/r/MensRights13/07/24 11:59 AM
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Paternity tests won't save him. He's married. You are legally responsible for your wife's children irrelevant of whether it's truly your children. I am very appalled that he doesn't understand this as a judge. Yes it sucks. So do your due dilligence. DON'T get married Make sex transactional as legally as possible. It's common sense. If you deal with anyone else you make fraud impossible. it's your job to make fraud impossible.
/r/MensRights10/07/24 10:24 AM
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Not exactly western civilization. But if people wonder why birth rate in europe and india is low while birth rate in muslim countries are high it's because of this. So the solution for men is to never cohabit with women ESPECIALLY if you are rich. There goes children. I am not a muslim. But I think they may have more sensible laws on this area. In my country, Indonesia, you pay women to stay and if she leaves, you stop paying.
/r/MensRights26/05/24 02:11 PM
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If I don't trust women more than I don't trust men, it's because society is extremely lenient to women doing horrible things. I know a man won't kill me easily because he'll get death penalty if he does that. A woman?
/r/MensRights26/05/24 02:08 PM
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What counts as incel vary from people to people. I got to admit, if I don't use money to get women I will have to settle for someone ugly. I'd rather be single. But if I offer money I got beautiful smart ones like top 2% and a few Yet people called me incel all the time and that makes me very very very annoyed. I have 3 children. Yes one of my sugar baby left and I am sad as fuck of losing her after 4 years. But 4 years? That's longer than many marriage Another is giving my my 4th children. To m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:56 PM
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How it is "viewed" is irrelevant. What's relevant is the game. What can the woman do with it? Vacation to Bahama? You can
/r/MensRights16/05/24 04:16 AM
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The idea that the child support is for the child and not the woman has no practical aspect whatsoever. The woman can just use it for herself. Also curiously, the child support cannot even be used on things that actually benefit the child in a real way. The father cannot for example say that the child support payment is invested and given to the child at 18. It has to be given in a way that allow the woman to just use the money to go to Bahama.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 04:16 AM
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DON'T GET MARRIED
/r/MensRights15/05/24 02:24 PM
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What about if you want to donate sperm and pay SOME AGREED upon child support? Say you like a woman and want to have children with her. But you don't want to get sued for $200k a month child support, but $5k a month. Can you make a deal?
/r/MensRights15/05/24 02:18 PM
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Don't EVEN THINK of getting married. NEVER AGAIN Instead, just pay her
/r/MensRights15/05/24 02:15 PM
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Just allow men and women to decide the amount via contract before conception. Instead of marriage or totally free sex, why not make explicit business arrangements.
/r/MensRights15/05/24 02:15 PM
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Instead allow child support to be decided by agreed upon contract. Let women and men decide amount of child support.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 04:06 PM
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Yes. For sex and reproduction. If things are cost effective.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 04:05 PM
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Don't get married
/r/MensRights12/05/24 02:20 PM
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You too? If you're a man any shit happened to you, it's your fault. It's your responsibility to protect yourself. If a woman fuck you consensually and latter regret and say you're a monster that rape her, society will side with her. Many cases the woman are clearly the aggressors.
/r/MensRights06/05/24 05:52 AM
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NOT VERY If you murder someone or scam or hack then yes, they MAY find you. Most hackers get away with it. Also there alternatives like XMR for extra privacy. For most cases, simply deposit bitcoin in an exchange and take it back will require law enforcement to subpoena a foreign exchange which is very difficult
/r/MensRights06/05/24 05:50 AM
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I was beaten up when I was a kid, no body helped me. I should have reported that to teacher but one teacher just say if both fight both will be punished. As a boy, I didn't understand what to do. As a man, I know that it's my responsibility to protect my self. But at that time I didn't know. Of course, in real life, government also do nothing when one guy hurt another. not the corrupt government in my country anyway.
/r/MensRights05/05/24 07:49 AM
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If she wants to smuggle something out, why not use bitcoin. Yes she is dumb. I am a misogynist I guess.
/r/MensRights05/05/24 02:53 AM
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Yes. I too would help people in need if it's not their fault. I guess I exaggerate it. But most things that people think are NOT their fault is indeed their fault. Like picking women study as major and be in lots of debt. Die. Just die. Or what about kids born with low IQ? Well. Their parents are stupid and the kids have the same genes. I care about my children.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:32 PM
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I am tired of welfare basically. Women pick some poor guys? Go watch their children starve.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:29 PM
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Man
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:09 PM
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I think it's true. I believe that transactional aspects are more important than this makes women like you or not. But I think the red pill nail the what women like more.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:06 PM
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I would save my self over any women or children. I would go the extra mile saving my children and my children's mom. Sacrificing my life? No. Risking my life may make sense. But women and children that's not even family? I won't even sacrifice $1 to save them. LOL
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:05 PM
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I think feminism is weird. Somehow their opinion is so special, special laws need to be enacted to protect such opinion. So it's okay to insult men and not women? Why is it wrong to insult anyone? I am insulted all the time.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:04 PM
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Well. Can't punish her just for a speech. But the attitude is disgusting. If only men are drafted, only men should be able to vote or something. This is how Taliban win. They respect men and men fight for them.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:03 PM
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You can't truly love your women unconditionally. If she leaves you and fuck another do you want to keep supporting her? I don't. So sex is still always transactional anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:47 PM
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Sometimes I like feminism They keep blaming men as if only men can be responsible and only men have power. Makes me feel empowered you know.
/r/MensRights28/04/24 03:23 AM
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And if prostitution is legal, no rich men can be incel. The truth is, you can bypass that. Don't be ugly, have money, it's not hard to get women.
/r/MensRights14/04/24 12:01 PM
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I think the whole feminism can be explained as envy against smart beautiful women. If you look at many agenda of feminism most seems to deny benefit of being beautiful women that ugly women can't have. Feminists oppose prostitution. Well, beautiful women are highly paid and ugly women are not paid. Women are usually not incel and can get laid or even love even though she's ugly. What ugly women can't get is financially responsible men willing to "financially support" or "pay" her. Feminists supp…
/r/MensRights14/04/24 12:00 PM
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Why is it wrong? She consent if she's paid. I don't consent to pay if she doesn't offer nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:37 AM
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If I don't give her money she will be quite worse off. Why would I do so? What is wrong in being a john? I don't force her. Well, not like I totally don't like her. Liking someone is a spectrum. I already have a sugar baby that is very pretty and have very high IQ. I like that one much more and the one less pretty and less smart doesn't look too attractive to me anymore. But I kind of like both. We men can like a few women at once. Not because I already have a sugar baby means Maria Zhang isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:26 PM
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Not really sure what you mean she works 24/7. We got maids that she can command around. She does no work but sleeping and taking care of babies and have sex. She's pretty much a wife. Also $2k-$3k is very big in my country. Also our children, which mean her children are very heavily supported. My children are my heir irrelevant of legal status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:24 PM
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Anything cost effective is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:29 AM
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Legal in my country. What would you do if you are me anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:25 AM
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I told you I spent $2k-$3k total. I don't know what counts as 24/7 service. We live pretty much like normal couples
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:25 AM
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Well, what I mean don't commit big. Long term commitment can be replaced by many transactions. It's like buying chicken from KFC. I mean technically you can sign a contract that you will keep buying and KFC will keep cooking delicious chicken. However, no such contract is necessary. As long as KFC keep cooking delicious chicken you have incentive to keep buying. The difference between having children and KFC is that KFC doesn't have barrier of entry. Once you buy chicken from KFC you are just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:20 PM
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Yes. I am doing fine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:11 AM
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Should I? I mean, I really don't mind having sex with women I pay for as long as they are beautiful and smart. I do not understand why many white people are concerned you are paying or not. Shouldn't men be concerned that the woman she fuck is pretty or not and how cost effective the relationship is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:25 AM
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Can a man be fighting in a trench, feel uncomfortable with it, and then withdraw consent, and when denied press charges for slavery? Can a man borrowing a lot of money from bank, then feel uncomfortable with it, and then withdraw consent? If a woman feels uncomfortable having sex with me, I will honor that. My concern is a woman never even communicate that and press charge for rape 30 years from now and the man can't proof it's consensual. So yea a written agreement that it's not going to be an …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:23 AM
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No. My name is non on the children's birth certificates. I once want it done by my country created a law where your legal children can sue you for having sex outside marriage. I am not legally responsible. However, I treated the children as my heir anyway with all the benefits. I mean there are my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:21 AM
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A man should pay what he explicitly agree. Why would women want to have kids with men that don't pay child support? I agree with you. Why should they? Ask a lot in front. If he says no or have no collateral, leave. That means women will only pick the rich. Fine for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:19 AM
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I think men and women can pay as you go or sign simpler contracts and that would work. No need for government, religion, or morality. At least not by much. An international libertarian court of child support would work. The man put bitcoin as collateral, the judges distribute it. If the woman can proof that the child is his and the guy not paying, then the money from bitcoin will pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:18 AM
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There are sometimes women that I am not too interested with. She wants money. I wont' give it to her. So I hire her to send nudes be a stripper and stuff. You can call it exploitation, but what else I should have done? I am not in love or like that girl too much and I am not heartless enough to just leave. I gave option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:16 AM
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Yes. You don't even need government to have good relationship with women. For example, child support can be done by normal contract. Or you can just pay women as you go and count on a little trust. The problem is government often insert itself against the couple's will. For example, straightforward transaction is illegal. If a woman plan to be nice with you, contract is not necessary. Why would a man leave a woman that's nice to him if maintaining that woman costs a mere 2% of his wealth? If tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:15 AM
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Don't know about other sugar daddies. But I am old enough to just want women I want to spend my whole life with. So of course we both care for each other long term happiness. We just don't sign contract. We just do it one transaction at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:12 AM
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I once paid child support to my ex wife. I hate that. Now that other child live with me often too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:11 AM
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In my country, $2k to $3k is total. Not exactly 24/7 service. I got other sugar babies too and she has nanny. Basically she got most benefits of marrying a rich guy except she can't just leave me and sue for millions of dollars. No contract is actually a very good contract. We are nice to each other because both sides can choose to leave they really want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:11 AM
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But the accusation against Trump has been very problematic. If Trump has reputation of just paying women, he wouldn't have been in this trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:09 AM
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So many people think I am an incel, troll, or something. Just ask yourself something. What does it mean by consent can always be withdrawn? Can you dodge draft? Can you legally evade tax? Can you agree to be drafted and latter dodge draft? Can you borrow money and latter withdraw consent to pay for it? I think people keep saying that things like consent can always be withdrawn but they only mean it in one very specific case. Women offering sex. Men in trenches warfare cannot withdraw consent. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:49 AM
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Or men can offer money for simple explicitly transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:45 AM
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Consent can always be withdrawn. Consent for what? Can I borrow money and withdraw consent? Can I sign in for the draft and withdraw consent latter? Can I marry a woman and leave her with my children and withdraw consent latter? Consent can always be withdrawn on what? and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:07 AM
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Why is it an exploitation? There are lots of laws against it. Laws against prostitution is one. Laws against explicitly agreed child support is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:46 AM
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I live with my children and happily arrange that my children will have some money by the time they're 18. I spent around $2k -$3k a month for her and our children. Maybe $2k-$3k a month extra for my other stuffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:45 AM
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Women can have children but they need to be able to clearly ask how much money they want in exchange of that. Okay that requires some form of commitment then get that explicitly agreed in a contract. The problem is in US it can't be done so you need to find loopholes. How I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:44 AM
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She fuck only me now. Was she a prostitute? Well, I am her first client so. The other one used to be an ex sugar baby too. I don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:43 AM
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One thing you can do as a man is simply pay as you go. If instead of paying you are financially supporting that's fine too. If she says no too many times you just find someone else. So no commitment. No marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:42 AM
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Why should I? There re pretty women I can pay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:56 AM
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Yap. My children are the only ones I can love unconditionally
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:42 AM
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What makes you think I am full of shit? It's easy for rich men to get sugar baby. Far easier and far more cost effective than a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:27 AM
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Some men think. So it's a misunderstanding. Maybe women says yes. Maybe women signals interests. How do you even have sex in US anyway? you can't pay. How do you know she wants it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:24 AM
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His money gives him a free pass? Weird. In my country, my money gives me far more than a free pass. I can actually get sex with money and not just hush hush money to cover up failure to get consent. Americans are weird. Why not allow men to just pay women for sex and all these, "is this consensual issue" can be put to rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:22 AM
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Look, it's hard to know if the woman want it or not if sex is not transactional and not explicitly agree. What happened is men do some flirting and then grope a bit and if a woman refuse he leaves. It seems to be at most what's going on here. Without explicitly paying how do you know for sure she is consenting? In any case, even in ALL of those allegations, Trump backed off instead of continuing fondling the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:20 AM
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Most of those women accuse him and most don't have any evidence. This is one reason why I believe all sex must be transactional. It's very easy for guys like Trump to just pay and make it clear that all sex is transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:18 AM
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I am not from US.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:16 AM
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Don't get married. I do have children with sugar babies. I don't commit much except money and I will take care of the children. I simply pay women monthly to be effective wife but I do not legally commit anything. In retrospect, if there is a contract I can explicitly sign saying that worse come to worse I will pay certain amount of child support, that would be fine. Another way is to put some bitcoin as collateral. Not that I intent to leave my children's mother anyway. Of course, if the mother…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:16 AM
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Which other women he "raped"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:14 AM
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Very rare. Most rapists are young poor men and most target are young women. Fine. It is possible. What are the evidence? Imagine if I told you I was raped by Margot Robbie 30 years ago. Is it possible? Anything is possible. But how likely is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:10 AM
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Do you find it weird that sex is the only thing we can't commit and that consent can always be withdrawn? A surgeon can commit to do surgery on certain time. If the surgeon withdraw consent and face penalty and the surgeon reluctantly do surgery, the guy forcing the surgeon to do surgery will not be guilty of slavery. But if a woman commit to have sex and she withdraw consent, that's it. Keep fucking her is rape. Even if the man stop or even if the man have consensual sex with her, the man canno…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:08 AM
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It is highly unlikely Trump would rape a 60 years old woman. Most rapists are young Most rapists victims are young. Trump is rich. he can just pay women. No evidence whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:02 AM
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Serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:01 AM
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I think that guy should get tougher sentence. I am not condoning what he did. But yea marriage lead to this sort of shitty things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:01 AM
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? Anything wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:00 AM
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Outliers? If transactional sex is outliers governments do not need to ban it. Governments ban it because transactional sex is not outlier but the most natural way to develop win win relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:59 AM
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When people don't steal from you or don't shoot you, they do so because of a reason. For example, they fear of going to jail if they shoot you. They don't have gun. For example, have you ever been cheated? Have you ever done any transactions that's win win with no cheating? The latter usually happen when people CAN'T cheat. I go to KFC buy fried chicken, I got chicken. Why? Neither of us can cheat easily. Any effort to get chicken without paying will be stop. If I pay and I don't get chicken KFC…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:58 AM
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If everything is transactional, do I see others as essentially computers? What is the connection between things are transactional and seeing others as computers? Do you transact with computers? You do transactions with humans
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:55 AM
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What I did is not marriage. It's sugar relationship. Yes it's similar to marriage. The transactional aspect of marriage is not too bad actually. The non transactional aspect of it, the one where government write the terms rather than the couple that's problematic. I am not against the idea of men winning bread and women providing sex for life. I just think the relationship is more stable if they split the deals into smaller pieces. So men pay for virginity first. No virginity then men can just p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:50 AM
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I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with objectification of sex and commodification of having sex. That's just word salad for they want to prohibit you from getting best deals. Get what you want and get the best deals you can get from the market. I know many smart beautiful women want money and guys that stick around. So? Pick a rich guy. If we're a match, I can take care of her for life. Not because I am in love with her or anything but because I am rich. I will have other women too. And that's some…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:26 AM
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You arrange the transaction well. For example, women are more valuable when young. Pick richer guys that not only financially support her but pay on top of it. The woman can invest in bitcoin. If he leaves, she already have money. Signing a contract is another way. When children is involved, a normal escrow can ensure child support is paid. What do I use? I just pay as you go. no contract. But in my case I have no plan to leave the women and our children together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 02:16 PM
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People will try to scam you first, when fail, they do good stuffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:21 AM
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Whatever. So? So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:20 AM
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Yes. he should have just offered money and pay. I mean what's the point of getting married anyway? I still don't understand why he got only 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:23 PM
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For every decisions you make you got to think what's the worse that can happen and what's the best. When sex is transactional the worse is she says not quickly. The best is you got cost effective heir factory. When you are married, the worse is you lost lots of money. The best is?.... what? Walking on eggshell all their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:22 PM
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I want her body to produce children. Whether she does it for money or love makes little difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:21 PM
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You think women want to be the only one? Well, if all else is the same yes. But most of the time they don't care. They mainly care about money. The sugar babies at least. Again many women are not like that, possibly. I met some I can't get with money. So? We're not a match
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:20 PM
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If a woman is highly spec, smart and pretty, then yea why have one night stand? I want all the way knocking her up. If that means taking care of her for life, then sure. If a woman is low spec then I don't want to have anything to do with those. I regret fucking some low quality women in the past. Fortunately none are pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:20 PM
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Sort of.... Basically if your feeling and your reasoning disagree then one of them is wrong. For example, I seek love and got scammed. Do I feel good being scammed? No. Now I pay for sex and got smarter prettier women. I don't waste time and money on women that don't choose me. Does that make me feel good? Yes. I think feeling and reasoning should enchance each other
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:18 PM
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I don't care if a woman loves me or love money. As long as I got sex, exclusivity, don't give me STD and the child is mine, then she deserves money as agreed. If not bye bye....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:17 PM
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I spend time with my kids. Maybe not much once I have 10. But my kids will play video games with one another. Something I have always wanted to do since I was a kid. I will also ensure my kids know basic microeconomy and evolutionary psychology and how to get rich. My daughter is pretty lazy on that area
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:16 PM
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I don't want to be backstabbed. Making things transactional solve that. I also hate spending money on women that will reject me down the road anyway. don't like me for any reason, then no means no. Basically offering money for sex will at least open up conversation that get me most about what I want to know about women. Is she pretty? What's her IQ? Can I afford her for life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:15 PM
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If the stake is high and they think they will get away with it, they will fuck you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:42 PM
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You are the first feminist I totally agree with. BINGO.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:42 PM
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YES. And make things transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:41 PM
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Marriage is NOT explicitly transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:41 PM
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If you want fair deals make things transactional. If you feel the deal is unfair or in anyway not good enough for you walk off. Making a vague deals and then cheat and murder is just disgusting. But most people think the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:40 PM
1

I have no idea and if it's up to me that's still straight up preplanned murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:39 PM
1

See.... Transactional is very complex. I've heard it's legal if you fuck the same girls the same time again and again. So not like prostitution where people change sex partner all the time. Not a law expert.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:39 PM
0

With very flimsy evidence supposedly happening 30 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:38 PM
2

What's the number. I have sugar babies, not prostitute. The difference is we fuck each other and pretty exclusive. I plan to repeat order them for life. So not like we're changing partner that often.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:37 PM
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I mean all sex should be transactional. Non transactional sex should be legal too. It's a suggestion. It's like saying people should pick higher paying jobs. Not that they have to. But if they don't then don't blame capitalism for being poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:37 PM
0

Dump the poor men. Also I don't know how hot his now ex wife was. Maybe that pig is all she can get. But most women can do better with sugar daddies than husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:36 PM
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Nope. I think that guy should get a death penalty. But fucking the same woman a few times and then fuck her one more time can get you life time sentence like Danny Masterson. Killing her got 10 years. Americans. I'll never understand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:21 AM
-8

Is it legal for those who just want transactional sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:20 AM
0

You can split deals into smaller pieces. Like pay per fuck first
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:19 AM
-6

controlling other's emotion is tough. You don't even know how she feels. Making things transactional means you can arrange that you got what you pay for. Otherwise stop paying
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:19 AM
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But women can just make fair deals. For example, imagine being paid $1 million dollar to produce children? If she's pretty and smart enough many billionaires would do so. Yes not all women can get that offer. And that is the REAL reason why it's illegal. Not all women can. The ugly are envy. So they make things legally complex or impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:39 AM
1

Well. Even if I am not selfish, the woman will be anyway and being selfless means I will be burned
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:00 AM
1

Being transactional prevent people from hurting each other whether they are psychopaths or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:08 AM
2

can you give details. I mean people are selfish. *So we make things transactional. Make sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:06 AM
2

You can love your dog unconditionally. Not humans. Once your love is unconditional humans will stop being rational to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:06 AM
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Yes. And I am tired of being exploited. So yap. Everything is transactional to me. Rarely women do me more favor because she loves me anyway. Her "love" always manifest on things that hurt me like preventing me from getting other women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:04 AM
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People are selfish. They just don't know it. Psychopaths know. That's the only different. A psychopath will look at weakness and exploit it. A normal people would look at weakness, exploit it, but before, he would justify first that somehow the victim deserves it. That's the only difference. Both will harm you when and only when they can. Okay, psycho can be extreme. I met one. Normal people have built in self delusional module. I don't want to be self delusional so I am trying to unmask the mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:50 PM
1

Low testosterone. Old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:48 PM
1

Okay. What makes you think that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:41 PM
1

in my country I make it explicitly transactional and I keep whatsapp chat. Basically I don't want false rape accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:39 PM
0

Where exactly you think I am wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:39 PM
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If the women are not benefited, she will say no and reject transactions. Will people be cool with it? Which people. Libertarian will be cool and wonder if it's such a bad thing why the women don't just leave. Women that don't leave and cry rape latter is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:37 PM
1

You believed that when you were way younger
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:31 PM
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I don't know if I am a psychopath or autist then. I would rather be a psychopath. But I do have moral. Not like I want to rape women. If a woman says no, I want her to leave peacefully. I don't harm them they don't harm me. My psychopath friends would make women's life really miserable if the women cross him in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:31 PM
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Aim for hot babes men. The genes don't change. Her beauty fades but is pass on to your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:29 PM
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Hmmm.... you need to do more than just insulting to show I am wrong. Like why it's stupid to base my strategy on evolutionary psychology? Evolutionary psychology is not the only thing I am based on, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:27 PM
1

That's also true. My current partner is too possessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:26 PM
0

It is victimless. Unfortunately it's a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:21 PM
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Yes. I knocked up 2. Have 3 children.. A third is coming. Is this something wrong? Also I don't expose my self to alimony or excessive child support. They live with me. Is something wrong with the English. Dude I am richer than top 1% in my country and I don't enjoy luxury. The only main thing that makes me happy is to have children to pass my money too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:18 PM
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Not you. But there are enough people that think transactional sex should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:16 PM
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Actually that's what I mean. Sex by itself is boring. I want children to pass on my wealth. What makes you think I don't know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:13 PM
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I used to be that kind of men. Then I learn evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:13 PM
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It's easier for men that pays.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:12 PM
0

And how exactly they don't accept? Sugar relationship is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:12 PM
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The best feeling is knowing the truth Besides, if what you said is correct, if most people don't like transactional sex, why should government prohibit it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:12 PM
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You just have to have higher level. Makes more money. Straighten teeth. Build muscle. Then get the hot chicks. Whether she likes you or more importantly whether she fucks you and give you children or not depends on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:09 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if this post should be labeled discussion instead of debate. What do you think? I am going to sleep but I will answer as much as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:01 PM
1

Wow. What do they actually say? Maybe it's a cultural thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:45 PM
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Here. When I was poor, I pay women for handjob. When I am richer, I pay women to give me children. I am happier rich than poor. But I don't feel distressed either way. Love, romance, and all other nonsense are overrated. If I am poor, it's hard to get pretty women anyway. I'd rather jerk off to JAV star than looking at ugly women. Hell, I felt sorry for fucking some mediocre women now that getting women are easier. Now I am richer I just pay hot women to fuck. Get rich first. If you're born poor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:42 PM
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Women lied to me a lot. Making things explicitly transactional ensure that they can't hurt me anymore. For example, how many women wants free lunch and get simps to pay for it? I used to do that. Only for the woman to disappear never to show up again. I kept wondering, what did I do wrong? With transactional sex, unless she obeys me in doing video chat or nude video chat or IQ tests at a reasonable price, I don't go further. At most I spent $5 per woman and that's assuming she's still pretty in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:32 PM
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Yes. So many marriage is sexless. Just don't get married, offer money. Problems solved. She refused, move on to other women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:45 AM
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So? Sex is fine. Would I pay more for intimacy? Not so much. I care about sex. Fuck her enough she got intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:44 AM
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Actually I don't care if a woman is being repulsed by me. Most of my sugar babies won't like starve if they don't choose me. So if they are repulsed they simply would have said no. Actually with transactional sex you know how well she like you. The more she like you the more reasonable the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:42 AM
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I would gladly sign such contract but I won't get married. A contract mainly care about the interests of those signing the contract. What he women want and what I want. Marriage serves the interests of many voters of wanting to ration females to equal share for everyone. That is why marriage, must be monogamous, for example. While a more normal contract where a rich guy agree to pay women for sex say monthly is borderline illegal or legally complex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:21 AM
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I don't pay women to like me or to pretend she likes me. I pay her for sex. And to give me children. A woman that doesn't like me would go the extra mile avoiding that. Now I know. Women that want to have sex for me for free? I suppose they really like me. But offering her money won't change that. They also expect financial support if I knock her up. At the end, I got to see her specs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:40 AM
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Here is a thing. Can women pretend to love me? Yes. Can women pretend to like me? Yes. Can women pretend to fuck me? How exactly she does that? Part of earning respect is to show that you cannot be scammed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:07 AM
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That's the catch. EVEN if you want long term serious relationship, you are better off paying. That is if what you want is measurable. Say you want the children to be truly yours. Say you want the women to be pretty and smart. You are better off just paying. I get far prettier and smarter women when I explicitly offer money. Serious relationship will ALWAYS cost money. Children will cost money. Within marriage you can be liable on children that's not truly yours. Such exposure alone makes all mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:24 AM
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Yea maybe. But how likely? Again even that can be decided. BDSM is real and a well written contract tend to show intent more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:23 AM
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Yes I tried both. I added benefits I personally get when I make sex fully transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:21 AM
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Sugar babies are not $2k in my country. And yes sugar babies are better than a wife in every way. You can get anything from a sugar baby that you can get from a wife. That includes children that is genetically yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:20 AM
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But the consent must be revoked in ways that is more clear. So that avoid misunderstanding. Also being paid means convincing jury that sex is consensual is easier. I do not think that Danny Masterson can be convicted if he PAID women to be his girlfriend. Not only it won't increase cost of getting girlfriends by much, it's more obviously consensual. Also a jury can know that costs per fuck is like what? $100 per fuck, not life time in jail. Danny wouldn't want rape for something he can easily pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:19 AM
1

Finally a sensible things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:18 AM
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I don't care the women like me or not. I care I have children with smart beautiful women with good genes. That being said, being transactional is a good way to earn respect and love from women. But that's not even what I am aiming for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:17 AM
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I actually did that too. Actually the way I "pay" my women is mostly by paying her living costs and give her allowance. Not much different than any husband. I pay her more than what I promised because life go well. But the pay is not linked to my wealth. My extra money go to our children and my other children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:08 AM
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That is fine. I am well aware that my women would dump me if I am broke. I see nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:01 AM
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I have desire to have children. Also after I pay a sugar baby several time, assuming she is smart and pretty enough for me, the women got attached to me. Basically I got everything I want from marriage by just paying, without all the excessive baggage. Not wasting money on women that don't want me. No means no. No sex, no money. Don't want to do video chat? She's ugly anyway. Not even dinner. Don't want to do test IQ? Must be low IQ or not submissive enough. bye.... Willing to do nude video chat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:00 AM
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Paying for sex is STILL superior even if you want kids. Just pay extra to have children. However, make sure that only what you want and what she wants in return matter. By paying you can ignore what societies want. At the end, what truly matter is how genetically superior your children are and how much of your money go to that children instead of the exorbitant alimony, or child support bullshit. You want your money to go to your children. you want your money to go to their mother ONLY if the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:54 AM
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And if you can fuck hot women for $50, how much you can get out of her for $25k? or $200k? If the chick has good IQ, what about a son? That's what I am getting at. No need for marriage. Just pay her to give you a son. And after that? Up to you. Me? I like to repeat order and I don't like leaving anyone. So I repeat order for life. It depends on the chicks too. But at least worse come to worse we got reasonable deals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:51 AM
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and..... I am rich. I value having genetically superior children and I want that to be cost effective. So I pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:51 AM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:50 AM
1

If I am more than 10k times richer than the woman, I don't mind as long as she is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:48 AM
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Right as long as she's not hot or not willing to give me sex, then no means no. Don't waste my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:48 AM
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I once did. I ran away when I see she's a whale. Before sex is transactional, I may have thought it's a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:48 AM
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The case of Danny Masterson is that he supposedly rape a woman that live in his house and have fuck him several times and can have easily move out once she no longer like him. One solution for such case is to sign a contract that sex is consensual unless consent is withdrawn clearly. Such contract doesn't work which is supicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:46 AM
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Then ignore those people. If they think sex shouldn't be something you buy or sell, then run. Why? Common sense business deals SHOULD NOT be replaced with proper contract. Even if you have a son, for example, that you love, and want to do business with you, wouldn't you sign proper contract? Not like you gonna sue the son, but a proper contract would AVOID going that far in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:44 AM
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Whatever. I got more money than top 1% in my country. But whatever. you know very little about me and others. Do yourself a favor. Buy some bitcoin. HODL till October 2025.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:42 AM
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That doesn't make sense at all. I am a crypto trader. I don't need social whatever. Besides marriage is very hostile against rich men. Basically there are not so hidden terms that's not explicitly agreed and hard to modify. Things like alimony, child support, etc. Outside marriage you still have to deal with child support but there are ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:35 AM
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Actually men, especially rich men, should NOT get married. Really? Unfortunately preconception agreement is not enforceable in court. But that's the most you can get out of court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:42 AM
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Of course not. But even if you have other options you can still rank the 2 options. ​ For example, if I have choices, A, B, C, D. I may like C, D, A, B or I may like A, C, D, B. Whatever how much I like other choices, I prefer A than B. I wonder if any option of any outcome in a rational person would alter my preferences? Would I prefer A > B when choice C doesn't exist or would I prefer B > A when option C exist. Now that would be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:27 AM
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Is there any observation that we can see?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:12 AM
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So it's not consensual, then it's rape then. As simple as that. Why do you need laws against trafficking if you already have laws against rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:39 AM
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Human sex trafficking victims are from poor countries, not US. Also is trafficking consensual? If so, then they're not victim. If not then we have laws against rape already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:36 AM
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Anything require honors will tend to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:34 AM
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1% case is RELEVANT for that 1% It's the 99% that should be irrelevant. Think about it. If i buy a smartphone, are other smartphones irrelevant? Phones that are too expensive or iPhone or phones that I am not interested at are irrelevant right? The same way ugly women that would starve to death for not selling sex is irrelevant to me. I don't even want ugly women. Besides, who are starving in US anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:11 AM
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Yes. But the rich aren't exactly wiping the floor as they should. For example, the main way to get women if you're rich is to just pay. That's illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:09 AM
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Why not? I am happy with my choice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:05 AM
2

And what do you know? What's the proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:05 AM
0

From smart beautiful women only though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:04 AM
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Of course I don't care. What about if Elon offer $10 million to a woman that are willing to give him children. $1 million to the woman and $9 million to the child after the child is 18 and NOT operated by gender surgery or anything. Are that women coerced? Are those women desperate? I am sure only smartest most beautiful women qualify. And yet, that thing may either be illegal or complex due to anti prostitution laws and child support laws. As for women that are so poor they got to sell themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:59 AM
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Yap. I wonder if the reason why feminists hate men that pays for sex is because those men can then simply aim for smarter prettier women. That means lots of ugly fat women will get nothing. Notice that women will never be free. You will always spend money on the child anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:47 AM
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obviously. doesn't matter she's free
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:44 AM
-2

but still you will have preference among those 2
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:42 AM
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consent goes for both sides. Would Danny Masterson agree to have a girlfriend that will accuse him of rape latter? If this can be an issue he wouldn't agree. Danny is a victim here. But women can't even sign a deal saying this won't be an issue and if I disagree I can always live. They make the law such that consent can always be withdrawn irrelevant of contract signed. Most women aren't fickle. They like men based on traits that do not change, like genes. So for most women, freedom to agree to …
/r/MensRights20/02/24 03:18 AM
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Women prefer the rich. And in Asia, many prefer whites. Somehow choosing someone giving better offer is seen as being forced. And that's just absurd.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 03:15 AM
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Don't get married. And a lot of this issue will be non issue.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 03:14 AM
2

What is SA? South Africa?
/r/MensRights20/02/24 03:14 AM
42

What women's rights?
/r/MensRights20/02/24 03:13 AM
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A misogynist is someone who feminists hate or leftist hate. Feminists have this absurd idea that men and women are the same as in having the same preferences. That men like rich women like women like rich men and beauty is skin deep for women as well as men. Which is not true. So if you don't believe leftist absurdities, then you're a misogynist.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 03:12 AM
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If you want romance, let me tell you something. It's a lie. Women want money. Pay them they do sexy stuffs. Knock them up and raise children right and your children will be rich. That's it. Sad unwanted failure? If my money is sexier than my self of course I offer money. What's the alternative? offering marriage? Dude. I don't want to just fuck women. I want smart and pretty ones. And some if not most of those women want money. It makes me feel like I am a fair capitalist not wasting time on ugl…
/r/MensRights09/02/24 05:31 AM
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I just make things transactional. Anything you do with emotion you can do with your logic. Every emotion is just a rational strategy that's you're not very aware of explicitly. Knowing strategy explicitly is good.
/r/MensRights05/02/24 05:49 AM
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Just legalize prostitution. Sugar relationship is legal too. Problems solved. Am I an incel? Technically I pay women to be with me. In practice our relationship is more than just transactional. For example, if I can get a woman far prettier than the one I currently have, I will not leave the current ones because I love her. Normally men pays or financially support anyway. I don't see how making this explicit is wrong or whatever. Btw, I am not ugly or anything. A bit aspie. But yea it seems that…
/r/MensRights05/02/24 05:47 AM
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Not that I know off. Better in what sense? More right? Well, men can drive cars in Saudi. Better in actual results? Men tend to be richer but we work harder for it. Smart pretty women can get our money by spreading legs to us. Ugly women will live pretty miserable life. If they work like men they are less competent. Also working hard for women will usually mean being childless under libertarian regime. So yea I am happy I am a man.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 07:36 AM
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If the man is richer, why not?
/r/MensRights29/01/24 05:14 AM
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Why the law has to codified it? Why not let men and women to simply make such deals. The reason why codifying it into a law is such a bad idea is that the law may codify absurd contracts. For example, the law may require $30k a month child support even though many women would agree for less.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 09:22 AM
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What I am saying is, it's hard to "befriend" smart pretty woman. either you fuck her or gone. trying to "befriend" her is tricky. She blocked me. She said she wanted to be friend and she blocked me. I mean friends don't block friends out of nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:09 AM
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You are correct. Rich men are few. In a sense, we are gate keepers even more than say ugly women
/r/MensRights27/01/24 09:07 AM
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hypergamy is genetic. Any genes that advocate hypergamy will be evolutionary stable strategy. Women that pick rich men simply have richer sons that mate with more women and have more grandchildren. In a sense it's no longer genetic because most women are like that. It's like selfish is genetic. Well, everyone is selfish anyway. It's like watching porn is genetic. Sure. But you can't find a counter example of men that don't like watching porn.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 09:06 AM
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the idea that women is gate keeping for sex is overrated. Government prohibit transactional sex. Without money, then yes, women are gate keeper. It's like minimum wage allows racist employer to hire only whites. But with price control gone, women will pick any men with the best offers. Huge part of those offer would be money. Unless a man is really ugly or dumb, it's easy to get women by just offering money. Saying women is gate keeper for sex is like saying employee gate keeper for work. The tr…
/r/MensRights27/01/24 09:03 AM
2

And abandon my own children and their mother? To die for welfare parasites?
/r/MensRights27/01/24 08:21 AM
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I love friendship. I have a woman that like another guy, a white guy. I would still love to be her friend. Maybe 2 couple soft swing together. She broke up with her boyfriend and she block both of us. We both moved on to another girl. She said she just want to be friends. Why does she have to block. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:21 PM
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Men want mainly sex. Women want mainly money. Win win solution and economic surplus is maximized if they are just both be honest about it and make things transactional. Of course, if things are transactional poor men and ugly women will not get good deals. So we got all these bullshit around the idea. That somehow men that pay are forcing women or that women that are paid are always desperate with no good options and hence "forced". All those are just blood libels from those who can't provide be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:53 PM
1

Well yea. How do we know consent on other type of relationship? Simple. If you pay it's consensual. If you don't pay it's not consensual. But transactional sex is illegal. Also the penalty is usually proportional to actual damage. So a woman get fucked one more time by Danny Masterson, a guy he like enough to fuck many times before, and now it's life time in prison? Obviously damage from non consensual sex with partner you never agree and would never have agreed before would have been far more d…
/r/MensRights17/01/24 02:54 AM
1

It's the laws fault. In my country, if I knock up my sugar baby, I pretty much have a woman that depends on my money and biological children. Pretty good deal. If you want women to stick around just knock her up. Many women are left by their boyfriend once they're pregnant. So I am a pretty decent guy compared to my competitors. And I explain that to women before I even fuck them. In US, child support is proportional to income. But that is just additional complexity of US laws. The true purpose …
/r/MensRights17/01/24 02:48 AM
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Such agreement is not enforceable in court. In general, even without agreement, men are usually liable for adverse legal liability he would never agree too. Alimony, palimony, child support, are all very adverse to rich men and the women themselves cannot agree differently. Women, however, cannot even have reasonable commitment. She can't for example, agree that she will consent to sex or give reasonable notification and leave the house. So a woman can have sex with the same handsome guy she lik…
/r/MensRights15/01/24 06:22 AM
0

I want to have babies. It's hard to convince women to give me children that I don't offer marriage. Sex without possibility of having babies are boring.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 06:17 AM
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I am well aware that the state force you either way. It's like the state screw you up if a jew go to concentration camp and screw them up if they don't. Men are always between rock and a hard place. So? So blame society and die? Dude. men are competitors. You just have to find loopholes.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 06:08 AM
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At that time I wanted a child so much that I did the expensive prenatal. You got a point there. But after the first child is mine, the risk that the second one is not is very slim. My sugar baby don't go outside a lot. Like once a month and mostly accompanied by baby sitters. I will test the second child too. And the third. Yea i got your point. At that time I wanted the child so much that if I didn't know for sure it's my child I would consider taking care of her as an acceptable risk. The law …
/r/MensRights15/01/24 06:06 AM
1

I did that. The child is really mine. After that I did after birth which is much cheaper.
/r/MensRights14/01/24 03:19 PM
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So why get married at all? This is one very big reason why you should never marry. The exposure to adverse legal liability alone is huge.
/r/MensRights14/01/24 03:17 PM
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So what do you do to ensure that you are not wasting money on children that's not yours or fraudulent women.
/r/MensRights14/01/24 03:17 PM
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It's actually a pattern. Left to free market women will ask in front how much child support she will be getting and the whole thing can be resolved by simple contracts or even escrows. When government regulate, the woman themselves cannot agree on the amount. A woman, for example, may agree to have children with Elon for $5k a month. She can't. The amount of child support is decided by court. Elon knowing he will be liable for far more than $5k may choose to reject her. The amount is proportiona…
/r/MensRights14/01/24 03:15 PM
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A woman have sex with a man several time. She claim that one of the sex is not consensual. Boom the man is in jail. A man put hole in a condom to force a man to be father? Not a crime at all. As a man, you just have to be smarter to survive.
/r/MensRights14/01/24 03:00 PM
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Most bullshit do not survive scrutiny. Most bullshit aren't even "wrong". they say something very misleading and vague that you can't really argue against it. ​ Real man change diapers. Real man have only one woman. Says who? So if I have 2 sugar babies I stop being real? Like what? This whole anti discrimination laws are just ways to force people to discriminate against groups that are not doing well. Under capitalism people make decisions where they are rewarded for being correct. Why not let …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:49 PM
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I knocked up one. I also have an ex wife. There is another one I really like and regularly fuck but doesn't get pregnant yet. Kids don't have a legal father. I am still consulting with the laws if it is advantageous for me or the kid to have legal father. I see the benefit of acknowledging the kid as minimal. The kid after all, have all benefit of having me as their father. Yes I took care of the children too. Play with them and stuffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:52 AM
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Hmmm... ​ We live together in a big house with 3 maids and she does nothing but taking care of the children while I make money. I mean, practically that's far different than most single mothers right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:48 AM
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Yes they don't. Do women in the west have children for free? Al Pacino had to pay $30k a month. I pay way less than that. So? The ugly ones have children for free I guess. LOL. I am not aiming for those.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:46 AM
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I am legally single. The women are legally single mothers. My children are legally fatherless. Practically? No. I avoid women with children from someone else like plague. Ewww... Would never settle for something like that. So I knocked up beautiful women while many guys settle for single mothers or even trans. And yet you act like I am some sort of incel. Perhaps you should just realize I am getting a good deals and other guys should do things my way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:45 AM
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No. More, like I don't mind even if they don't like me. One of them say to her friend they like me and want smart children from me. Another say they like me. I don't know they like me or not. I can't read their mind. But, the children pass paternity tests. It's women wanting to marry me that I doubt. They don't like me. They just like wedding and marriage and like arrangements where they can leave and sue me for a lot of money. So I don't know if they like me or not. If a woman like you would th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:43 AM
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Let's put it this way. They prefer being paid by me than marrying someone else. And I am not even offering marriage. Good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:39 AM
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I actually want to be left alone. That is why I demand for sex for my money. Any woman that don't like me will refuse and leave me quickly and I prefer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:34 AM
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Let the woman choose then. This is not something a simple contract can't fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:33 AM
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for free? No. But for financial support? Yes And so what? If I agree and she agrees, it's win win. I don't expect to be the most desirable guys in the world. I am not Henry Carvil. She's not margot robbie. We all settle. And how much we like each other is not the only thing that matter. I am sure all women that choose me will choose Henry Carvill if she can bang him. But Henry Carvill aren't going to stick around with her for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:33 AM
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It's worse case scenario. But so what? Even under those worse case scenario: I got sex She got paid I got smart beautiful children She got smart beautiful children with good financial support from the rich biological father I mean most people don't have that and it's legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:31 AM
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Because such women, if they're pretty, would fuck other guys that pay less or even more. If she choose me, then she likes my offers. How much of that is because she like me or like my money is irrelevant to me. All I know is I am getting smartest prettiest women I can get cost effectively. It's just like renting a hotel. Do you care that the hotel owners like you or just doing it for the bucks? I want genetically superior children. Only smart and beautiful women can provide that. Should I care s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:29 AM
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What does it mean? She said so many lies about sugar daddies and sugar babies. Very few want it? Really? MOST women that I know of want money. Who wants someone poor. That is why it's illegal. So the rich don't just hoard women by paying. But hei, don't take my words for it. Why not let the women choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:27 AM
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And a wife? The only difference is our arrangements are more fair and explicit. In most marriage husband financially support wife anyway. I just make the financial support conditional on the women giving me children and giving me sex. I want to avoid scenario where it's my money but she has children with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:25 AM
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Not much. I think I spend $2k a month. But that's not payment. That includes all cost of living and most of the money go to our children. So I am pretty much husband and she can't get alimony by divorcing me. Waiting for my 4th children. Pretty cost effective deals I must say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:23 AM
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Think about it. How many women wants to give me children if I don't marry her? Even if she likes me, why would she wants to be single mothers? It makes sense women want money. I just replace marriage with paying. A woman that really doesn't like me, or like me but prefer someone else, would not fuck me for a little money. ​ There is this very hot sugar baby. White skin, chinese, high IQ and so on. I offered her some money and she refused. Latter she fuck a white guy for $66 and want to have chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:22 AM
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Why not? I got pretty smart women. Beautiful smart children. I spend less than lawyers on marriage. I am happy spending my time and money for my children and for women that give me children. Not wasting time on dates to relationships that don't work out. Not wasting money on alimony. Why you think it's not a winning arrangements? So many women are single mothers. I stick around for my children. So many husbands are poor. I am quite loaded. Why it's not win win for the woman too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:40 PM
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All women would leave me if I am poor. So? I don't plan to be poor. Worse come to worse she's in it for the money. That's good enough for me. I got sex and heirs. She got money. Fair deals. But smart pretty woman usually also have other guys offering money and marriage too. If she still choose me then yea, it's not just money I guess. I have good IQ. My sugar babies say they want smart children. They have high IQ too. So it's not just money. Would women ever be with someone poor? Yes but the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:38 PM
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I am not afraid a woman will leave me if I am poor. I am slightly afraid of a woman that will still leave me when I am rich. Basically I don't think it's likely for me to be poor anyway. I plan to be richer and richer and it works. Given that children cost money, I also think women that wants money are simply wise and realistic. How do a woman knows that a man will stick around? Well, if he's rich, and you're in the west, then he will stick around if he knocked you up. There is child support law…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:34 PM
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Yes. But that is much better than women that just want my money without wanting to give me anything. Much better than women that marry me only to divorce me latter. I'd take a woman that want to have sex with me for money anytime. And if her IQ is high and she is pretty and she wants more money for her children, why not? I LOVE to spend money for my own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:20 PM
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If a woman is ugly, fat, old, or doesn't want to even give me a handjob to start a relationship, I won't even waste time and money going to dinner with her. Too many women just want free money, free lunch, and move on. I am not ugly. I have great IQ. I am quite loaded. but some women are turned off by the fact that I am analytical or asperger. Fine. It's their right to reject me. I used to think that to be fair, they should also not pretend to like me to get my money and just be honest in front …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:19 PM
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And what makes you think paying for sex is not building trusts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:16 PM
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No need regulations. besides, my relationship is closer to marriage. To feminists, I am an incel To the law, I am single In reality, I am a polygamists. So issues like STD and so on is not a big issue for me. We only have sex exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:16 PM
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And why be hypocrite? I want more than just sex from my sugar babies. I tested their IQ so I get rich smart children. But if some men just want sex, wouldn't it be better that he's honest? If some women just want money, wouldn't it be better that she's honest? Anti prostitution laws encourage fraud and dishonesty. Isn't that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:15 PM
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What about if a woman prefer my offer than other offers. Say a woman have 3 choices. I offer money, but NOT marriage. Another guy offer marriage but he is poorer Another guy offer free sex Why not let the woman choose who she wants to have sex and have children with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:14 PM
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You keep saying most people want to have attraction. Paying doesn't mean you don't need to attract women. There are times when I got scammed again and again by a woman that doesn't like me. Actually the reason why I simply chose to pay is to get a woman that like me more. To attract women, men spend money anyway. dinners. Movies. Most of the time it's women that just want free money and free movies and so on. By paying, women that don't like me for any reason, will just go away and I am not wast…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:12 PM
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Why do I have to pay them if they like me? Why do I have to marry them if they like me? I mean a woman has to get pregnant for 9 months. And the man don't pay? don't offer financial support? Of course marriage is so shitty for rich man that paying is much better. That's one way to look at it. I "may" be able to get women without paying. But if the women I am getting without paying is ugly, what's the point? Let me think. A woman may like me. But she likes Brad Pitt more. Obviously. But much more…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:10 PM
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I think a lot of this are blood libels against sugar daddies and sugar babies. My sugar babies are prettier than most women. Top 10, maybe not. But 8 to 9. And they have good IQ. I tested them. I am also far richer. I am not ugly. I got good IQ. It's win win arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:07 PM
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Actually, I think paying women for sex is one very effective ways to make women like you. If you don't spend money they think you are stingy or poor. If you spend money and get nothing they think you are idiot. You are also attracting simp hunters and women that just want your money. but if you pay them, the only way they can have that money is if they have sex with you. Not only that, if relationship is long, that means she thinks you are her best choices out of so many others that also offer m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:06 PM
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I used to think like you. But how do you know a woman truly likes you? You don't. A woman can pretend to like you to get your money. Then she can fuck everyone else and she keep scamming you. Wanting women to like you make you vulnerable to scam. OR you can just realize that money is part of the game. Men wants sex more than women. Lots of men are offering money to have sex with smart pretty woman. So if a woman agree on your price, it's a match. Chance is you got the smartest prettiest woman th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:04 PM
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sugar babies. I got 2. I have 3 children from one. Another want to join.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:03 PM
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Money gets women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:11 PM
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I think feminists make it tough by making paying women illegal. Also there are issues like consent can always be withdrawn. That put every sex risky for men because there is no way a man can proof that sex is truly consensual. Danny Masterson is a case where a woman that you have sex with many times and live in your house can latter complain that sex is not consensual. She can just leave. There was a guy that got sent to jail because the woman claim that she withdraw consent when fucking. The wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:58 PM
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What? The solution is indeed be the top 1%. In money and all. What is wrong? The other guys won't get laid is their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:47 AM
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There's a different between wanting someone with money and wanting money. Bill Gates is someone with money. But Melinda abandon him anyway. Why? Because she can get Bill's money by leaving Bill. And if not for the money, Bill won't mind. There are plenty of younger smarter women to be sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:29 PM
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I used to think that women are wronged. Anti polygamy laws are there to prevent women from choosing and sharing richer men Prohibition of transactional sex prevent women from getting paid easily. I thought feminists would support me. I latter learned that feminists are usually ugly and won't get rich men and won't get paid a lot for sex and hence, out of envy, want to prohibit that. ​ https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/464439-far-from-being-laws-to-protect-women-antipolygamy-statutes-may In fact, …
/r/MensRights29/11/23 08:55 AM
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Let me try to understand. Say a woman decides that being paid to have children is a good idea. Can that woman offer that service to a rich man say for $2k a month? That man may be so rich if the state decides amount of child support he would have had to pay $30k a month. Think Al Pacino. Median child support in US is $450 a month. Every individual has a right to make and carry out one’s own reproductive decisions That's very interesting. No more exorbitant child support. The kids will be taken c…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 04:46 AM
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Actually, the word blamed is unnecessarily negative. Video games are fun. So yes, it causes males not to look for females. So? So what? If fucking means marriage, romance, potential child support, alimony, never mind. I'd rather play games.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 04:32 AM
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This is very interesting to me. I always think that the true purpose of child support laws is NOT to support any child. Supporting any child will not deter rich men from having children. It's his own children. He doesn't take it with him. The purpose of child support laws is the same with the purpose of alimony, and palimony. ​ Punish rich men for having sex and children Give women incentive to backstab the man. For that to happen the man's payment to women must Be proportional to the man's inco…
/r/MensRights05/11/23 11:30 AM
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What about signed agreement?
/r/MensRights05/11/23 11:15 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if whatever she's learning is real science.
/r/MensRights05/11/23 10:56 AM
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