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If we want to use the widely accepted definition of "misogyny", point me where I said it's not "misogynistic"? Oh it's prejudiced. With good reason. I said it doesn't rage against them/hate women. Not that it holds them in high regard. Two VERY different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:15 PM
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And that would be...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:06 PM
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If you’re a man you should have developed the skills to take care of yourself. Cook, clean, do your own laundry every week simple stuff. You shouldn’t be waiting around for a woman to come do that for you. Sure I could. I don't want to. I value my time a lot more. I'm gonna continue making 8x the average wage, and my wife can do all of that boring shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:05 PM
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The stage where you hate women after finding out what they are really like. You're not supposed to be in it for very long. Accept that that's the way it is, and try to make the best of the new world that's before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:02 PM
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So do you want me to just repeat myself or?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:52 PM
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On the contrary, the red pill is the only way to like women properly, and not through a lie. Sure you can end up hating them, too... but that's your prerogative. The Red Pill is a loaded gun, if you shoot yourself in the foot with it, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:52 PM
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For example instead of going out and make friends and have fun like normies, trp fills them with rage against women Black pill "fills them with rage against women". 80% of "red pill" guys here are blackpillers. The Red Pill would tell those guys to fuck off and come back once out of the anger stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:47 PM
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As for the second part—how do you feel that the RP has helped you if you don’t mind me asking To use your verbiage, "exactly like I said". It spoke out loud the unspoken social rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:30 PM
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How long were those relationships and how do you define deep? How many were there? Can you broadly rate the looks of the women involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:21 PM
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There’s a reason why there’s a significant overlap of autistic/neurodivergent men in RP/manosphere Because most people are normies. Normies intuitively get the unspoken social rules (because they were made up by normies). Autists are a lot more logic focused, and not interested in playing stupid social games. one can see why some ND men can fall prey to this type of ideology Fall prey to? More like finally see the light. TRP is so valuable BECAUSE it labels and explains those unspoken social rul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:17 PM
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What does "bonding" mean for you, if you'll understand the question better like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:15 PM
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Can you define how this "bonding" manifested for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:58 PM
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bottle service girls > not dumpster diving. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:04 PM
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Wait, so do looks matter or do they not? You're flaired blue pill, is your thing not that women are not superficial/shallow as TRP claims them to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:26 PM
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Ironically, you're being disingenuous. No one is claiming that being kind and polite "makes up" for not being hot. The media I consumed as a kid sure as fuck did. Older women IRL sure as fuck do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:45 PM
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Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:26 PM
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If if knowledge was true he should be richer than Tate. Because his “knowledge” would work I can't be bothered to look at the name of the logical fallacy you're committing, but lol at the implication that the average NPC on this earth is more attracted to truth than to well marketed shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:05 PM
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My wife will be a SAHM cause I make roughly 8x the average income for my country. I'd rather my kids grow up in a good home whose chores are always taken care of and where at least one parent is always around, than get a measly 12.5% increase in earnings and a grumpy wife who bitches about colleagues every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:41 PM
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And I disagree. Most men date below their looks match. That would be because for women, looks are not the only factor. A 7/10 guy may think his "match" is a 7/10 LOOKS girl... but that is not true. Women consider everything else, as well. So the 7/10 guy may be a 0/10 in game and status, and best he'll do are 4's and 5's. You can't solely focus on looks when women are also after other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:39 PM
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Can’t actually argue the point I made can you? You made a point that I made a point I have not made. I cannot argue against something that is blatantly untrue lmao. But you can't read, can you? Also I read that stupid clickbait article the last time you linked it. It's pure horseshit lmao. The fact he didn't cash in on it as much as tate does not make his knowledge untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:37 PM
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"I like making strawmen and intentionally misinterpreting what others are saying". BPers in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:28 PM
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You've never watched a single movie where the nerdy kid gets the girl in the end? I find that hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:20 PM
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You've never watched a single movie where the nerdy kid gets the girl in the end? I find that hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:19 PM
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How about people don't lie? And how about people don't get blamed for not being able to discern lies from truth? Blue pillers liken it to moral failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:57 AM
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You're being disingenuous on purpose. I expect it from women, but not men. Anyway... I did not say "I was told girls don't like hot guys". Obviously nobody could claim that. The claim was that stuff such as being kind and polite will make up for not being hot. So even if you were not attractive, you would get a loving partner by "being a good guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:57 AM
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Sad but true. Good rant OP. That's the game though. Adapt or lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:37 AM
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I'm not sure if you're intentionally trolling or lack reading comprehension, but I guess it's on me for engaging you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:17 AM
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My comment above should explain. Permanent better sex, even after you stop taking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:13 AM
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I'm gonna point you to my original response. I can agree it is the most important thing. I disagree that other stuff cannot more than compensate for it. Guy I know who fucks the most irl looks like Sid the Sloth from Ice Age, is barely taller than the average woman, and is a waiter (so not really a sugar daddy). Game does all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:10 AM
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If you need specific hobbies to connect you, you aren't very good at making connections. I can talk to 18 year old guys and girls, and I can talk to 40+ people. Obviously it'd be ideal to have shared interests, but it's not the doom scenario you are implying. How the fuck did it take you 7 years to realize you have nothing in common?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:08 AM
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In reality you are black pill, not "no pill". Looks are 80% of the equation only on the very extremes (10/10 Chad fucks on looks alone, 0/10 guy doesn't fuck no matter how funny he is). For the overwhelming majority of people, looks are just a low bar to clear. Then it's all game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:06 AM
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You cannot remove something as innate as that just by pretending it does not exist. Attraction is subconscious and cannot be negotiated. Trying to turn everyone into amorphous blobs will end terribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:04 AM
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Nope. I'm the classic nerd (anime, vidya, D&D interests, autistic as fuck) and my girl is a complete normie (nails, makeup, blah blah). Pretty much 0 overlapping interests. Together for 2 years, best relationship I ever had. Compared to one of my exes who seemed perfect on paper, but was jealous as fuck. That was a 9 month long shit show. A lot more important things exist than mutual hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:02 AM
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That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard, but thank you for elucidating me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:59 AM
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If you're a "charming asshole" you're doing it well. But done improperly you can just end up being "an asshole".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:59 AM
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TRP term for "banter" is "push/pull" and is indeed different from negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:58 AM
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Do ye all get away with this bs irl? They do because pussy whipped men let them get away with that shit for so long it's now considered "rude" to call them out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:57 AM
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What does your flair mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:34 AM
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They shouldn't, but that was the lie sold to many men for years (at least when I was growing up) through all forms of media. So it's understandable why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:33 AM
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I'm sure that's going to stop all the actual people that commit crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:31 AM
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NGL would definitely recommend doing it a few times. Get your body used to performing in super saiyan mode, then you can do it reliably even without it. It gave me permanent benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:31 AM
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Viagra.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:30 AM
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That is very interesting, commenting to read later. That said... even if it's plagiarized, who cares? Translating a science paper into book form has a lot of benefits for readability. Fuck, my own book which I am writing currently states on one of the very first pages I am not the inventor of any of that. I do not claim to be. I just gathered a whole bunch of shit from everywhere, discarded the shit, and kept the gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:29 AM
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Nobody is asking for hours. Link three comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:21 AM
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Goomba fallacy 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:20 AM
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Agreed OP. I wouldn't have been nearly as retarded in my teens if literally every single piece of media didn't sell the "treat her like a princess" lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:19 AM
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Idk, I was raised that way because that’s what the internet and everyone said to do, don’t focus on women. What part of internet and when was that? Cause that's the exact opposite of my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:18 AM
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Agreed. If you pass the looks threshold, game is what matters the most. Everyone is autistically latching onto "muh looks". It's a bar you need to clear, after that it stops mattering, and the bar is not too high for an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:15 AM
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God damn neurotypical people are so bizarre with their chest-pounding primate dominance rituals I just wanna be like "hey I like you and enjoy your company, let's do fun things together". You know? Just like find a woman with morals and interests and unique thoughts and connect emotionally and intellectually and do things together. As a fellow autist, I agree with you so much, but that's the game with normies. If you wanna fuck consistently, you gotta play it. Socializing with someone you actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:12 AM
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Practically everyone is in agreement that looks are the single most important thing in dating. What's the point of these circular debates about 10 other things that don't even matter 1/10 as much? One thing can be "most important" while also having other things matter a lot in aggregate. Imagine there's 9 objective things that matter. Looks is one of them, mattering at 20%. The other 8 all matter 10%. Just because looks matter the most that does not mean you ignore the rest. And it's not nearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:11 AM
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Yeah that's nice but Chad has to do none of that Most Chads do a lot of that subconsciously. I'm still going to have to settle for some used up whore. Lol no. TRP makes you get the sweet fresh hot college teen everyone lusts after. Either you win the genetic lottery or better to not be born at all imo. Good luck with that mindset buddy, I'm sure you'll feel great on your deathbed. I'll enjoy women and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:22 PM
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I said average LOOKS, not average FACE. Looks are more than just your face. You're not average if you're a fat fuck lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:30 PM
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And that is where we're gonna disagree. Average looks are by far good enough for most women. If your looks are average and your game is strong, 7's and 8's are gonna fall into your lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:26 PM
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Very few guys are unable to reach at least average level, given enough time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:26 PM
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Sounds like you gave up and are looking for excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:22 PM
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being fit or successful doesn't change who you are at your core, its not metamorphosis And women are shallow, newsflash. It doesn't mean you're a beta bux if you're also fit now, could genuinely be attracted NOW. And could have been THEN if you were fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:20 PM
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Unironic sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:33 PM
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And again, you're pulling shit out of your ass. I am definitely not 6'2, nor was I a "chad", rather the exact opposite. I made myself into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:28 PM
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Yes, OBVIOUSLY different life stages are a negative. I don't think you understand what I meant by that.You're saying "age gap relationships are bad cause there's an age gap". Like that's part of the definition lol. Abusers target people who are more easily bent to their will - young and impressionable. Hence why older guys love young, impressionable women who have less experience in relationships and less confidence to stand their ground. Again, this automatically implies all guys turn into abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:26 PM
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So you're saying that the rp only works if you're tall and hot? If you possess the bare minimum of reading comprehension, it is not difficult to discern I'm saying the exact opposite of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:22 PM
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Different life stages By definition this is part of age gap relationships. Thing is bad cause it's bad? Power imbalances, with lots of potential for financial abuse Are you claiming older men are somehow statistically more likely to be abusers? Anyone can abuse anyone. No relatability Yeah, if you're a boring person that has nothing to talk about. I got plenty of shit to talk about with both 18 year olds and 40 year olds. Loss of physical attraction to an older partner (balding, erectile dysfunc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:45 PM
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Oh fuck yeah, that is so true. One of my good friends has an issue with this. He's probably got the 'tism or something, so when he dances he ends up looking really weird and gay. The amount of women that instantly "get the ick" from that, no matter how good of a guy he otherwise is, is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:05 AM
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I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about or how that fits into our conversation. Can you clarify with something more than one sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:58 AM
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That's because 80% of dudes flaired red are whiny bitches that are actually black-pilled. They do The actual red pill subreddit back in the day would tell these guys to fuck off and come back once they're out of the anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:55 AM
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7's and 8's consistently, 10's occasionally. What is the point of these questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:38 AM
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An average looking guy can be a "player" if he wants to be, by following TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:21 AM
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All good. Ideal, even. One might even say... based.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:00 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:33 AM
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Unless you're a literal 0/10 evolutionary dead end, maxxing (in every way, not just looks) and especially social skills maxxing you will become that guy for a reasonable amount of women. If you're a literal definition of an average dude, 5/10, doing everything right you can become that guy for most 7's and 8's, and even the occasional 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:18 AM
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That’s why I think the BEST indicator of a compatible woman is how quickly she fucks you. Perhaps the best but many imply it is the sole. I've fucked most virgins within a week (or two), but the one I got "made to wait" the longest for (like 2 months) has been the best relationship ever, and the sex after that was non-stop mindblowing. Some just put a conscious mental limit on how fast they'll do it and that's okay. Dudes here take it too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:16 AM
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It's very wrong, OP can't handle working on himself so he makes excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:15 AM
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but at the age im at women are done having their fun with chad and want to settle down Let me blow your mind: You are not limited to dating women solely your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:14 AM
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Bull fucking shit lol. This is just [that c word mods ban for some reason] to not take accountability for your own shit. TRP gives you everything you need to become that guy. So while you may not be that guy currently, it's definitely not ok and there's plenty of wrong with that. Go lift, learn social skills, do push/pull, hold frame, pass shit tests and you'll become that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:13 AM
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You were able to "get women" after the age of 18 thanks to TRP's "unspoken social rules" to cheat code your way into...what? Her pants? A relationship? How do you measure success? What do you think "getting women" means lol? If I want to just fuck her, then it's "her pants", if she proves herself deserving of more we get into an LTR. And if these universal "woman-whispering" tactics work so well, why are there so many blackpilled fellas running amok? What the fuck does one have to do with the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:29 AM
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What results do you get? And how does TRP facilitate those results. Going from a kissless virgin at 18 to being able to get women at will with minimal changes in appearance (obviously not much growth left at that point, and I was already hitting the gym). TRP labels and explicitly teaches "unspoken social rules" required to be good with women. I've given some examples in my own top-level comment to this post. It also tells you to own up to your shit, self-improve, and not blame others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:55 AM
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Ah, the good old "I got owned and so now I say it's not that deep bro go touch grass" maneuver. Well-known on the internet since the old days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:39 AM
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"Normal" people are usually perplexed and skeptical when I explain manospherian ideology. If you think something "ain't that deep bro", you most likely just do not understand it. It's a revenge fantasy. They're still mad at the pretty girls that ignored them in high school. While I can definitely see how it is "revenge", I fail to see how it is "fantasy" when TRP gets you results far above what the average man can get. At worst you could claim it's a revenge reality which you could argue is a la…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:33 AM
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If men were not struggling TRP would not even exist. They think a bunch of men got bored one day and decided to make shit up for no reason lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:31 AM
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Well no, because my claim is this: PPD itself has many users, all of which have differing opinions, which total to just about everything that can happen IRL. To say that "PPD represents a specific culture" is to say that pretty much every opinion in the world is just "a specific culture" when that's just the world - a bunch of people with differing opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:57 PM
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Problem is, and you can't debate this because you call people out on it regularly, is that as this sub has evolved, the instances of the genuine red pill get fewer and further between. Yeah, like you said I call people out on in regularly. Hence why my reply focused directly on TRP, not this sub. This sub can go coo-coo at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:14 PM
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but most young women are basically saying they dislike you if they don’t sleep with you within 6 hours (I’ve never been in person with a woman longer than 6 hours before sex). "Most" is doing the heavy lifting there. It's definitely the majority but there are still plenty girls that will not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:02 PM
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The claim is "how can you expect or pursue women if you hate them?" Easily lol. TRP gives you all the tools you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:29 PM
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if you are a 6, social skills can make you an 8 or a 4 I'd argue it's more like 9 or a 3, but I agree with the general sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:28 PM
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It would suck, but yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:27 PM
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Obviously OP yes, I was looking for more context into the whole "banned half of r short users".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:26 PM
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So, up for debate: Does PPD reflect real life, or just one small insecure subculture? Oh well way to start the debate off on the right foot OP. You are definitely demonstrating you are approaching this with an open mind? PPD itself has many users, all of which have differing opinions, which total to just about everything that can happen IRL. So let's talk about whether the Red Pill itself reflects real life. And the obvious answer to that is: Red Pill not only reflects real life, it explains it …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:25 PM
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That sounds interesting, who is this bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:18 PM
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They are doing that with or without the flair, may as well have them marked so people don't misinterpret that as "red pill" as is constantly happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:14 PM
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Your logic is not logicing. Being short will hold absolutely anybody back. You can still "succeed" despite it, but you'd have had a much easier time if you weren't affected by something totally out of your control (being short or an autist). How the FUCK is something that person's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 03:46 PM
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How is it not? Both are something you're born with. Both are something that will "hold you back in dating".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:50 PM
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But once she likes you in that way, RP and Blackpill go out the window Nope. RP explains you need to maintain attraction consistently, unless you wanna say hi to Tyrone after he's done cucking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:50 PM
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because at least Blue Pill respects women Why is that something you value? You can very much be redpill and "respect" women, it's just not likely. Once you figure out how they really are, it's hard to respect what's at best a grown teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:49 PM
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Im sure some women may like the whole “I want him to work for it” stuff but tbh the negatives outweigh the positives in my mind because how can you really be sure every time. You can't be 100% sure, but if you have the slightest modicum of intelligence you can make a reasonable guess. Even if you get it wrong, better to sometimes misinterpret a "no" as a yes rather than take every no literally. Misinterpret no as yes -> you annoy a random woman who you will never again interact with. You're pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:48 PM
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what red pill believes blue pill is. What people that found the red pill have been told countless times* Everything you've said is true but nobody fucking says it IRL. At least nobody did when I was teen 15ish years ago. The world at large seems to be redpilling and moving on from the whole "just be yourself" bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:46 PM
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Following that logic, it's your fault you were born short?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:44 PM
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I disagree with OP, but just think for one second about why men value the looks. Could it possibly be because on an instinctual level wide hips and big tits = good genetics?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:23 PM
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I'm not going to debate whether this is true for the average man. I'm inclined to believe it still isn't, but I cannot confirm. I can tell you with 100% certainty I can get "elite genetic" women and I'm still firmly in the "no hymen no diamond" train.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:23 PM
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True male and female friendships are so rare you may as well say they cannot exist. If a chick is on the same level, higher, or down like 3 points lower in terms of looks than the guy, he's gonna want to fuck her. Sure most guys can "technically" maintain a friendship without ever actually doing anything about it, but if the girl offers herself up to him on a plate, he'll jump at the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:15 AM
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Oh yeah I agree. My life would be so much easier and more peaceful if I didn't have sexual urges. Alas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:13 AM
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Lol that's some projection on your end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:11 AM
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If you put it in And if my grandma had a dick she'd be my grandpa. Frame, Shit Tests, and push pull are something the average person cannot understand or verbalize, they just do it. "Wrapping it up in terminology" makes it teachable. Actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:45 PM
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That claim alone doesn't make what he said is incorrect. If men value attractiveness as 90% of the package, and everything else is the remaining 10%, and women rate attractiveness as 30%, status at 25%, charisma at 25% and so on, attractiveness is still the strongest predictor, but women still don't care about it as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:25 PM
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But most adult men have standards both for what they will drink and what they will fuck. I never said they didn't. Read and comprehend if you wanna debate, otherwise don't waste my time by replying to things I haven't said. The claim is that those standards are lower than you are claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:15 PM
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Ah yes, nothing shows "empathy" like telling socially awkward people their lack of intuitive unspoken rule understanding means they're a "dangerous psychopath".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:42 PM
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TRP did not cross my mind as the first line of severe NEET treatment I unironically think certain very specific parts of TRP are among the best ways for... "neet treatment". Give them a good motivation to improve socially (a woman) and teach them how to do it through very specific, almost game-tutorial like steps (the way TRP does it). After all, women are people, too. A large part of TRP can be applied to anyone, not just women. They'll know social skills before they know it, cause now they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:29 PM
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Social skills aren't that hard. You can learn them just by observing people around you and asking "how would I react if somebody else do this or that" Math isn't that hard. You don't need to remember complicated formulas. You can intuit them just by observing the shape in question and asking "how would I get the area/circumference/volume of this shape". Hear how dumb that fucking sounds? For me I genuinely think about math in this way, it was always intuitive to me. I never bothered to learn for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:10 PM
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You learn to 'perform', but with authenticity, which is a great skillset to have. After "performing" long enough it will become natural and authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:42 AM
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That is a reasonably useful book I have to say. I disagree on some points but whatever, reasonable start if you're an autist. However TRP teaches many of those, and in a more effective way, too. For example:  Perhaps the most awkward kind of lies you encounter are teasing lies in which someone says something as a joke to see whether or not you believe them. If what they have just said is highly unlikely or people around them are trying not to laugh, they are probably teasing you. The correct re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:30 AM
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If you can follow instructions, you can master social cues. And autists are really good at following instructions. You just have to follow the right ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:22 AM
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a large part of it has to do with your looks The halo effect is real, but most people use it as an excuse to not even try on social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:41 AM
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I don't like big muscles so their self improvement might not be an improvement to me, although I do like a guy to fit/slim A guy CANNOT reach the level of "too big" accidentally. What you describe as "fit/slim" is a guy that genuinely spent years in the gym already. Most of those guys are just making excuses for themselves. Barely anyone is an actual 0/10 evolutionary dead end, most are just lazy and can't take accountability for their shit life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:40 AM
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Keep thinking that blackpiller, you're only hurting yourself with that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:39 AM
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You also have to be able to read social queues, so some autistic people are screwed. Good thing those can be learned as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:13 AM
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Absolutely. I was a full on autist, constantly being referred to as "that weird guy". Nowadays I can get women at will and handle myself in all kinds of social situations. It's absolutely learnable, and is in fact the thing your average guy should be focusing on the most. The only way available seems to be "just socialize" which is like learning to swim by jumping into deep water. You have to be your own teacher basically, people who you "train" with are not likely to be patient and forgiving fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:11 AM
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Nothing to change, that is correct, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:32 AM
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Black pill flair should exist. 80% of dudes labeled red are just black pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:30 AM
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Here's a hint: You want to know what the red pill is, you check out the red pill archive/sidebar. 80% of "red pill" dudes here are black pillers flaired red. Black and red are absolutely not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:19 AM
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Do you mind giving me just a few of these common talking points, and why they would be wrong? "The bar is in hell, women just want a good person." "Women want you to be emotionally available." "Women aren't a monolith, your silly red pill tricks only work on low value women." "Just be yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:43 AM
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You can quote the exact words.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:38 AM
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And I'm stating that pretty much every single man I know IRL also matches what I said. And so do a lot of online ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:37 AM
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Nope. You don't "try" gym, you do it. But okay that is pretty generic (even though it was decried in the general blue pill populace until recently). Hold frame yes. That is by far not generic. Or push/pull. Or shit tests and how to pass them. Bring any of those up to an average person and see how they respond. Most likely by thinking you're insane. That is not generic advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:35 AM
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Then explain how people have used those ideas to be successful in relationships? They haven't. Most people "naturally" intuit a fair chunk of red pill and that is what gets them a relationship. Please tell me what blue pill advice you yourself think gets you to a "successful relationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:34 AM
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black pill believes everything red pillers do They evidently don't believe in self-improvement and becoming chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:32 AM
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Can you not read? I said they can overlap. The red pill is a toolbox. That was constantly repeated back in the day. Use what you want, leave the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:31 AM
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Give ONE. If "the whole sub is an example" it shouldn't be hard. You can, after all, just "read a thread".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:30 AM
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Reminder that the mod that wrote that definition is not the objective arbiter of what is correct and what is not. Since some of "y'all" have that misconception. Also reminder that, after we're reminded of the above, we can reasonably infer a set of common talking points consistently repeated in every single post on here, and collectively refer to that as "the blue pill". And those common talking points are wrong as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:19 AM
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Oh I'm blaming you for intentionally pretending not to understand a concept applicable in every day life. At least pretend you're interested in a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:17 AM
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Repeating RP talking points and never being able to explain the concepts in your own words. Can you link three examples of that to me done in this sub? Fuck, give even one for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:12 AM
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Nope. That's the view of the red pill its opponents want you to have. Is there a lot of red pillers who will get only that from the red pill? Probably a decent amount. My flair implies disagreement with it on some key parts. But to say it will only get you "toxic women" is a lie, and to claim that it is only "manipulation" is equating it with PUA. The two are not the same, even if they overlap. The Red Pill is the truth alone. Do with it what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:55 AM
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The one that I've only seen women use is when someone suggests that every preference and standard of every person is completely unknowlable, unassessable, unchangeable, that every individual is themselves unchangeable, and dating is purely a roll of the cosmic dice with 0 input from it's participants. If men know what women filter for, that filter becomes ineffective. Therefore, they pretend it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:53 AM
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But for now the generic advice of try x is still better than nothing when most people can’t actually greatly influence anything Except they can. By following the red pill. Which gives actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:35 AM
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You are using AI unironically to debate. Lmao. Thanks for the laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:33 AM
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Can you properly define that? Obviously I believe all those things are important (with the ordering of extreme looks > status > looks > money) but other things also come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:28 AM
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Lmao, how to ragebait as many people as possible. Nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:26 AM
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People will point out the hypocrisy, double-standards, contradictions… Whatever the fuck you wanna call them For the final time, HYPOCRISY AND CONTRADICTIONS ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Those are two VERY separate words, with two VERY separate meanings. You used one of those in the title. That one is what I have been responding to this entire time. connotations vs. detonations Under no "connotation" does the word contradiction mean anything remotely close to hypocrisy. Say the red pill is hypocritic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:24 AM
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Actually, if the implication is that X trait is an inherent flaw or defect in women specifically… Then yes, it is a contradiction if you conveniently ignore that men also have this “defect” in order to frame as “female nature”… If the Redpill had always framed it as a human thing rather than framing it as “female nature” specifically(with the implication being that men are somehow different), then I’d see your point. Forget about any "implications". I don't care what you think was implied. TRP f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:11 AM
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Strawmanning and intentionally misinterpreting shit. Those are the malicious ones. Also yeah lmao that "I personally don't do it so your claim women do it is false". Those are the dumb ones. Neither are worth responding to. Very few women on this sub are arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:02 AM
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First off, yes it is. If I say that women have “X trait” but in reality everyone has that trait. Then at that point it’s not a woman-trait, it’s just a people-trait. Exactly. Still not a contradiction. Even IF men are also hypergamous, that is not contradictory to the claim that women are. So I will pretend that it doesn’t matter and that it’s not a contradiction or hypocrisy I did not at any point claim it wouldn't be hypocrisy but it is not a contradiction. I think you may need to google the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:00 AM
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You all tend to think that all women act the same way. AWALT is a clear example of this. Thinking there is one set of things you can do that work all the time is another. Nobody takes AWALT literally literally. Nothing is true for every single person. It's meant to be taken as a very reliable heuristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:43 PM
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Let L be looks, M be money, S be status. (If L + M + S > 10) AND (L > 2) then attracted. See how you can write that out in a way that even computers will understand it. Only people not interested in arguing in good faith will not. Note: I'm not agreeing with or defending Ok_Cook's claim, I'm just pointing out OP is very much not arguing in good faith and is not intending to change his mind in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:40 PM
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Nope. I'm a man and that definitely is true. I'm with a 10/10, I'd fuck a 4/10 if I did not care about cheating and I didn't have to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:37 PM
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OP: Are You Aware You Do Not Know The Meaning Of The Word "Contradiction"? Okay fuck I can't type like that anymore. Anyway... But when you point out that by that definition of hypergamy, us men would be hypergamous too "Men are hypergamous too" is not a contradiction to "women are hypergamous. TRP doesn't fucking care whether men are, as well. It focuses on women, and men also being hypergamous does not in any way discredit the claim women are. Now whether men are hypergamous... well I really d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:35 PM
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You are still focusing too much on physical attractiveness. The overall picture matters. Yes, you want to be attractive physically too, hit the gym, get a good haircut and beard combo, but there's not really much more you can do other than that. No point in thinking about it so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:35 PM
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Yeah that's why I said she's pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:29 PM
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You are strawmanning at the point when you assume what I state for the average man to be true about me, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 01:27 PM
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Again, strawmanning is not a good look. I'm sure you'd love it if I was some whiny bastard avoided by women, but sadly for you that is by far not the case. And you're still avoiding the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:37 PM
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They aren’t actually what women desire physically. For women physical attractiveness is not all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:10 PM
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men here No, I'm pretty sure men here are way more likely to understand and agree with your point. misinterpret "personality matters" and overlook social skills Gee, I sure wonder why that is. Perhaps it is because women claim moral failure on your part if you say you're struggling? Nobody is "misinterpreting" shit, they foolishly follow what women claim they are attracted to, and fail. So overall, your post explains the truth, but glosses over the fact that most women do actually say it is "bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:07 PM
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I also agree with that. But the point is that even if they're not fully attracted based on looks, they CAN overall be attracted based on other factors because, again, women do not focus solely on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:02 PM
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I'm sure they do. I'm also sure 80% of men are not single, as evidenced by going outside. They may not consider them "hot" solely based on looks, so you have to ask yourself, what's up with that? Most guys have to realize that just because looks are what we measure on almost entirely, it doesn't mean women do, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:11 AM
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Strawmanning is not a good look. I am thankfully way above looking at 3's, but your average dude is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:09 AM
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Barring extreme look outliers (10/10 fucks no matter what, 0/10 doesn't no matter what) Charisma > looks. Most dudes should focus on social skills rather than dumb shit such as mewing or whatever. Of course, going to the gym AS WELL AS improving social skills is optimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:46 AM
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Oh it fixes them alright. Not on its own, but after you fuck it's hard to be as mad at the other person. Now the discussion can be much more productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:44 AM
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Good in most situations, don't take it literally. You should resolve issues before sleeping but sometimes the issue cannot be fixed, you got the other person upset and can't do anything about their emotions now, even if you apologize. Sleep it off, better in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:43 AM
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While she is 100% pretending, do you think there are people out there that really don't know it? If it weren't for this sub I wouldn't know about that guy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:42 AM
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Nope. Past 25 is expired. There can be women at 30+ who look good, but they'd still have been hotter at 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:40 AM
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If they have those kinds of thoughts about me If you're a 3 or above in looks it's not an if.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:39 AM
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What do you use to rate? Is your rating objective (based on size) or subjective (your personal opinion on the peen in question)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:39 AM
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I know this is kinda nitpicking, but rather than approximately 2 I'd say approximately 3, ON AVERAGE. 3/10 can get most average or slightly cute women (5-6/10) consistently if he's socially good. Being a 6 or a 7 yourself you can get 10/10's. Not all of them of course, but you can get one every now and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:37 AM
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That's why I believe the final stage of the red pill involves uncovering small truths hidden within the tiny crevices of the blue pill. Yep. But I wouldn't phrase it as "hidden within the tiny crevice of the blue pill". It's not hidden, they just misrepresent what personality is. They claim it is your moral personality. Guys good with women know morality doesn't come into play at all until later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:35 AM
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Looks are step 0, but to clear the threshold is not very hard for most women. Charisma > looks barring when you're on extreme ends of the scale. 10/10 Chad doesn't have to be very charismatic, 0/10 fat fuck can be as charismatic as he wants and it'll be for naught. But for most average dudes, charisma matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:33 AM
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This is simply finding excuses not to self improve and whine about it. If my life was determined by my parents, I'd still be a fucking kissless virgin I was at 18 rather than being able to get women at will. Hint: I was going to the gym at the time I was a KV, and you can obviously tell I didn't go through puberty and/or grow height-wise after 18 lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:04 AM
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Title is at odds with the post, because the title makes one absolutist statement but then the post goes into something I actually agree with. For example I know a lot of guys are like "if I just wait a few more months she might like me more" or "if I spend a little more money and buy more expensive things she will like me more" or " I'm her first bf in a long time that's why she's taking so much time to open up and reciprocate to me". This is just dumb fuckers doing that one verb that gets you b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:53 AM
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Red pill claims women are only after the wealthy Red pill does not claim that, because... aka hypergamy ...hypergamy is not solely financial.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:47 AM
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Okay so I guess I'm not really married yet, but I make 8x the average income for my country and my wife will definitely be a SAH mom. I don't want one that works. If it ends up being the girl I am currently with (which it might) she most definitely is not a "highly educated" one. You've defined your debate too broadly. What's a "high value man"? Cause I'm gonna agree that people coming from wealth probably won't end up with the Walmart girl, but an average joe that built himself up into a top 1%…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:46 AM
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Guy that fucks the most out of anyone I know IRL is barely taller than the average woman. Obviously being 6 2 is a boost, but if moaning about lack of heights is the only thing you can do, heights aren't your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:43 AM
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The courting process never ends for men, no. But your way of thinking about it matters. Don't think of it like a slot machine you are supposed to fill up and forget about. That's the negative way of thinking about it. Think of it like wanting to do something good for your partner because you love them, and you want to have fun with them. That said... if a guy falls off in habits of buying her flowers The literal only time I buy my girl flowers is on March 8th. You're not supposed to buy her. Tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:22 AM
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10 random women OP or I met? Maybe. Countless examples of 10 (or more) random women from many many people though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:16 AM
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If you fuck 10 women and literally every single one of them is into it, either you've come across some insane statistical anomaly, or you can make a conclusion of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:52 AM
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I can trust myself. as long as it doesn't matter to the other person. Reading comprehension is at an all time low.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:39 PM
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I don't care that you have to make up what other people think in your head, I mean what I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:38 PM
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You know for yourself you will not dissolve the marriage for any reason Reading comprehension, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:37 PM
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You can prove a correlation to exist very obviously lmao. Just look at the data. Maybe work on your reading comprehension before equating "correlation is proven" with "correlation is proof of".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:56 PM
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Nope. If she doesn't care, it's not hypocrisy. It'd be hypocrisy if and only if she also cared, did not want to be with you for that reason, and then you whined about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:49 PM
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What if you think there is proven correlation between n count and marriage failure rate? You know for yourself you will not dissolve the marriage for any reason, but cannot know for the other person. Following simple logic, it is okay for you to want the other person to be a virgin, despite you yourself not being one, as long as it doesn't matter to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:48 PM
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Your low IQ/ Middle IQ/ High IQ meme is technically correct. The thing is the High IQ version is doing the middle IQ version, it jut became natural rather than performative. "Being yourself" now means something completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:36 AM
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she could be a virgin catholic woman with a high sex drive in a relationship but the likelihood of that is very low Sure, but just because something is not very likely doesn't mean you should settle until you find a hot virgin who'll fuck you constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:02 AM
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Ah yes... taking dick makes you less reliant on parents. Groundbreaking discoveries right here in this very thread folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:01 AM
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Lmao, rare to see someone admit it :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:21 PM
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Shouldn't be looking for empathy. Should rather be looking for solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:56 PM
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Many people who are universally disliked have problems reading other people and social cues. They cannot make sense of other people’s body language, verbal cues, expectations, implicit and unspoken social rules and terms of engagement and so on. Neurodivergent people tend to violate other people’s boundaries without knowing they did. They have issues knowing when to insert themselves into the conversation, often overshare and enter people’s personal space without understanding why that is an iss…
/r/seduction19/03/26 07:53 PM
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I argue that autism has its good sides, which benefit you a lot if the downsides aren't that great (being high-functioning).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:08 PM
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High functioning autism is a good thing if you channel it correctly. I used to be "that weird guy" with 0 success with women, but the 'tism ensured I autistically spent days reading self-help books and bettering myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:25 PM
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Did you not read a single thing OP wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:46 PM
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Then the least they could do is not throw empty noise into the world with empty platitudes, if they're not going to contribute in any useful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:37 PM
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Women's advice is shit. I wouldn't take it. But even that is better than empty platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:37 PM
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Hmm, a fellow autist could possibly lend advice on that and much else. I am currently writing a free book that covers pretty much every aspect of dating, and I try to not assume even the simplest of things. If you (or anyone else) is interested, feel free to message me for the link, not sure if linking it directly is against the sub rules. Again, free, no scam, no nothing. It's just over 100K words in length so can't paste it in a reddit comment lol. Edit, fuck it, here: https://drive.google.com…
/r/seduction19/03/26 04:06 PM
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Okay, go talk to dudes that are saying those things, why are you talking to me? Cause I am explicitly framing it that way, so saying it is never framed this way is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:03 PM
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Men say they want empathy but they are never satisfied with it. You are allowed to want more than 1 thing at a time. Also, "men" are not a monolith. I do not want empathy in the slightest, only practical advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:35 PM
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I disagree that it is off-topic. People constantly bitch that "women only want assholes", when that is not true. Or rather, they are not wanted BECAUSE they are assholes, but rather everything else that comes as part of the package. And the distinction OP makes is very important for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:54 PM
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Yep. In my language those 2 are the exact same word, but they do take on very different meanings when you separate them like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:46 PM
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"Try to improve your social skills" is the key here, because it's both good yet useless advice. How does he do it? What does he need to focus on? The bluepill version of improving social skills does not ever mention push/pull, shit tests, or holding frame, which are key.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:29 AM
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Context: About 20 Red pillers replied to my last post saying in a relationship the woman is trading sex for commitment. No, the context is you doing olympic tier mental gymnastics to interpret unrelated comments into saying that. Nobody was saying that. Debate Point 1: The point of a relationship is not just for the man to get sex and if you think that you will be sorely dissapointed when sex stops at some point. Of course it is not. Again, not a single person has been debating you on this. No, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:47 AM
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Being an autist when it comes to dating is like being a carry in dota. You start off the worst but use your special skillset to eventually become stronger than most normal people. Signed, autist that went through a similar transformation.
/r/seduction19/03/26 09:40 AM
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“I am lonely, I would like to have a relationship” = I’m sorry you are feeling that way, that sucks. What a useless response that solves nothing. Give him advice, not empty platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:58 AM
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We keep having redpillers here say outright that being an asshole is a good thing when it comes to attraction. I don't think very many will say this. It is not that being an asshole directly works, it's just a lot of what naturally comes with it that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:57 AM
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Framing it as a market, with clear and achievable goals, helps many men who cannot "just get it" naturally. Telling them to "just create a connection bro" does not help any man who is struggling to get a date. If he could do it, he wouldn't be looking for a guide online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:13 PM
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Outside of said space, or to other women? Cause I see nothing wrong with spreading the message across the internet, help out the less fortunate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:54 PM
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In a vacuum, no it isn't. There's 20 or so posters here who have been very well informed of my statement, yet continue strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:59 PM
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It's obvious to be butthurt about finding out your whole life was a lie. But redpill says "it's ok to be mad, come back when you've cooled off and improve rather than bitching about it".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:19 PM
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I try to often but individual comments mean little, hence why I posted it here, in the meta thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:18 PM
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Can we stop considering blackpillers flaired red as "red pillers" and stop strawmanning the red pill based on that? At no point in the red pill does it say to whine about it. It says take responsibility and fix your shit, not cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:49 PM
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It's on me to make sure money doesn't run dry and women don't leave me. Of course I wouldn't be happy if that happens lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:18 PM
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I help others reach the same goal, rather than preventing them from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:52 AM
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And I'm just a guy who reached the end of the board and realized it's absolutely everything I've always wanted. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:41 AM
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So you are being intentionally malicious towards others to keep them below your level with this advice? Did not expect something like that from a fellow autist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:23 AM
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Being a kind genuine guy who treats them well matters... in the very long term. Not very many women actually want someone to beat them up daily. But the issue is that women are either incapable of thinking their actions through long term, or are actively lying about what it is they actually want ("I just want an honest guy that treats me right" and then keep picking assholes). Kindness matters, but it is by far secondary to plenty of other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:13 AM
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Childish? Yes. Implies he's not kind or good? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:01 AM
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Life is not a competition There is no game to win Mindset that makes sure you stay a mediocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:00 AM
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Can we finally put to rest this ridiculous idea of “fairness” in dating? Yes, can we, please? Because that's taking the red pill. Media at large pretends dating is fair and you need to "just beeee urself" and be of sound moral character, and you will find someone for you, which is obviously not true. Nothing about this is fair. And it is not supposed to be. I agree it's not fair, and complaining about it does nothing, but why the fuck should we not try to make it so? I mean, I don't have an actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:50 AM
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First good comment I saw from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:50 AM
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Dating and marriage? Absolutely. Sex? Fuck no lol. It's only "overrated" if you're getting plenty of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:45 AM
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The issue I have with your post is the extreme hyperbole of "every single woman". No, not every single woman. If we interpret your post in a slightly less extreme way I'd agree with it. Money and status are not the end-all be-all most scammers present them as. Money and status serve to enhance you, not to compensate. I'd also disagree that not giving a fuck about them is the way to go. The ideal end goal is for you to be "that guy" but ALSO have money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:42 AM
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If you want something realistically achievable. Don't hyperbole, I am sure you get the point. You cannot deny that most whiners are just that, whiners, and not predisposed by fate never to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:40 AM
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The average guy can achieve 7/10 looks through couple of years in the gym and taking some time to get styled properly. Even an ugly can can achieve average looks through same means. Will the attraction not be as strong physically as it would be if you were Chris Hemsworth or something? Physically, not. But just because it's not physical doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You can constantly see broke ugly musicians with hotties, for women it is by far not only physical. So yes, it is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:39 AM
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The former gives you the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:29 PM
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To the people that actually did roll a 1 on genetics, that sucks and I feel bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:53 PM
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Most people don't have infinite mental resilience to withstand years Sounds to me they didn't want it hard enough then. or perhaps decades If you reach decades, you're either in the "0/10 defective dead end" camp, or dreadfully incapable of changing up your approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:24 PM
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If you want something hard enough, you won't need hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:22 PM
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Only one of those is a conspiracy theory, the other is very obvious to anyone with a working pair of eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:07 PM
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Lmao no. People know literally nothing about the person, "virgin incel" is the default insult nowadays for anyone to the right of Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:04 PM
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Because every single comment chain on reddit consists of the exact same topic, never deviating slightly to call out someone's incorrect statements. Thanks for teaching me this about the website. tried to change the topic to yourself corrected your incorrect statements about shit tests*
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:03 PM
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Debate Point 2: The woman is not a sex doll, a prostitute or a sex slave, she does not owe you sexual acts just because she has done them before, or because you want them. You are not entitled to certain sex acts. And she's not entitled to a relationship with me. Debate point 3: Not wanting to do certain sex acts with you again does not mean she is not attracted to you or is "treating the other guy better". That is catastrophizing. Technically true? Sure if she tried something out once and didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:56 PM
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Mgtow is not blackpill. Mgtow is telling women to fuck off from your life. Blackpill is "there's no point to anything, only looks matter and if you're not chad at birth just give up". They can overlap but by far not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:54 PM
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Unless the person giving up is an actual 0/10 defective dead end (shorter than the average woman, face that looks like 3 day old roadkill, medically crippled in a visible way), anyone that "gave up" just didn't try hard enough. So many ways to get your "league" up even if butt ugly, and so much valuable advice online if you know where to find it. To the people that actually did roll a 1 on genetics, that sucks and I feel bad for them. But most just didn't try hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:53 PM
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I don't care what OP said, I am responding to what you said, which is why I responded to you and not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:48 PM
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Certainly not like that my guy,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:31 PM
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You don’t “make” women shit test you. You hold frame when they do, by NOT engaging with it. Nope. Many better ways to respond (depending on the actual shit test of course, sometimes frame hold and ignore really is the best action). Agree and Amplify is my favorite most of the time though. Seeking out contention that make women find you annoying is not recommended by RP. Shit tests don't mean you're annoying. Women don't shit test nice guys. You WANT to get shit tested. Passing them generates att…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:30 PM
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You don't need to autistically be set up in a 1 on 1 scenario. But being invited to an event where you can meet new women is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:16 AM
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After all, I'm wrinkly washed-out old trash, a 25-year-old single man from Italy with a completely empty dating resumé. Women haven't hired me and I know they'll never do. Dude the red pill is LITERALLY right there. It transformed me from a kissless virgin into someone able to get women at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:08 AM
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Lmao what the fuck, why do so many people do complicated mental gymnastics about this shit? It's just fucking disgusting to imagine my girl with another man. Male version of getting the ick. Edit: What the fuck, just got to the cucking part, wtffff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:09 AM
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That is a man I hope has a support group around him. Something like that could probably send some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:41 PM
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You gotta admire the dedication at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:38 PM
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I don't see much of a point in the post. Like... this is literally arguing semantics. That said, the only way it isn't cheating is if you openly discuss it beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:35 PM
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You're just feeding your ego and it will bring you instant gratification, but this won't bring you any lasting happiness Speak for yourself lmao. If that's all the red pill brought you, you have missed its point entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:30 PM
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When men say it, it's usually some weird survivorship bias bullshit. No, it's very valid advice. The less you care the better off you will be. The issue however, is that just doing that is nowhere near enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:19 PM
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Please share with the class what these damaging core tenets and values are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:12 PM
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I'm trying to show that the problem isn't me. Just because women are... as they are... doesn't mean the problem does not ALSO lie with you. This is some woman tier mindset lmao, shifting responsibility from yourself and not taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:07 AM
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"Manosphere"? I dunno what you count in that but TRP itself resulted in me going from literally never having had a girl, being a kissless virgin at 18, to being able to get them at will. Some small parts of it I disagree with, but it's supplemental knowledge regarding mindset and LTRs specifically. What techniques? There's no "techniques" unless you count stuff such as push/pull, passing shit tests, and holding frame "techniques", when they're parts of human interaction everyone does, TRP just v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:59 AM
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Probably, but ask yourself. Does that mean that the right-wing men are inherently more likely to have issues dating? Or is it possibly that the leftists stay silent cause they are still in the matrix of "not wanting to be seen as sexist"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:20 AM
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I literally fucking said "very minimal changes in physical appearance", I was lifting before TRP. It does not do much on its own. But keep spinning your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:19 AM
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Be yourself is absolutely fucking useless advice. Being yourself is what brings a man to redpill in the first place. You follow other's advice until you internalize it. Then you "be yourself" because you are now the better of yourself. if you overcompensate too much with random stuff like “holding frame”, passing “tests”, getting “status”, or leveraging money, then I’m pretty sure you’ll end up with someone who doesn’t actually like you. Every woman shit tests, holding frame is a part of every h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:17 AM
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Going from not being able to get a single girl to being able to get women at will. Very minimal changes in physical appearance, but then trp also says "go lift".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:47 AM
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I wonder how OP would feel if he didn't have breakfast this morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:37 AM
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It's messy and random to certain extent for most people... yet we can plainly see that certain patterns hold true for most women. Nobody ever claimed TRP to be 100% effective in 100% of the cases, but it's like 95% effective in 95% of the cases. If raising your odds from 1 in 50 to 1 in 5 isn't winning the game I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:35 AM
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> Make fucked up policies that exclude males for years > Men realize this and push back > gUyS wE nEeD tO dO iT eVeN hArDeR Good job OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:33 AM
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That's bs lol, right-wingers are far more likely to be considered attractive than left wings, and right wingers in general are more focused on kids. If anyone's reproducing it's the right side.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:32 AM
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This is a global rise in noticing. 7k for this man right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:30 AM
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Lel, guess who just got banned for 7 days for a refugee comment. I, myself, would also literally never make a new account.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:28 AM
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Things that can't be fixed are a much smaller subset than blackpillers claim. If you're 1) Shorter than the average woman 2) Visibly medically crippled in a way that is unfixable and impacts your life majorly 3) stuck with a face that genuinely looks like literal 3 day old roadkill then sure, go ahead and say it's unfair. It is. If not, you're making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:01 PM
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Americans need to stop assuming they're the center of the world. Go look at middle eastern refugee stats into europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:09 PM
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Some people cannot. Some can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:55 PM
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The argument if "women like bad guys/jerks because when im manipulative, women respond best to me" is so annoying because its human psychology and most people fall for manipulation. Just because "men fall for manipulation" is also true does not make the statement "women fall for manipulation" any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:49 PM
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Yep. Being nice > Being a jerk. But plenty of other things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice vs not nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:49 PM
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People change, and people saying people don't change just don't want to accept they are to blame for their state in life, because they couldn't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:46 PM
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You think I don't want that? Unfortunately we can't change normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:45 PM
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"51% fits the definition of most you sexist redpiller, so it's something we should be doing". And before you respond, google the term "hyperbole".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:45 PM
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They do, but don't pretend there's not significant overlap between "Chad" and "Ass". Not causation, but plenty of correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:07 PM
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No, he should not have "told her" either. You should not say it, you imply it through your interaction. I mean sure telling her is better than what he did, but the optimal is to leave it unsaid, hanging in the background, while all of your other actions imply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:06 PM
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Women and bluepillers treat being a virgin as an underlying moral failure. "There must be something sexist or misogynistic about him, if he was just a regular kind guy he'd have a girlfriend, average guys are in relationships all the time. The thing they overlook, whether intentionally or not, is that sexual success has very little to do with morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:47 PM
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Nice bait What bait? I am saying telling them they're a loser/have a lack of success is being pointlessly cruel and is done only for your own selfish reasons of feeling better than them. Telling them they're a loser/have a lack of success BECAUSE of X,Y,Z is cruel in the sense that it could be phrased better, but I don't care about that. It is at the very least HELPFUL for the person. It really should not be this difficult for you to grasp the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:40 PM
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If a, b, c, d, e , f and g do not exist without z, cannot happens without z, you should be focusing in the Z because nothing happens without it. It's plain idiotic to go and say "oh yeah it start there but you should focus on the other things" Not realizing that if you do everything else but not what allows you to start you wasted your time. Please point to where I told you NOT to improve your looks? You're literally fighting a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:34 PM
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It does says, reality. And like I said, the person is aware of that. Your comment is literally pointless. Telling them they're a loser is a meaningless insult. Telling them they're a loser BECAUSE they're a fat fuck who overshares constantly and can't hold eye contact is a meaningful insult. You could infer that the lack of sexual success is the why Why does the person have a lack of success?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:33 PM
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Bro interacted with her 3 times without making his intentions known, and wonders why he got blown off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:31 PM
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I'm pretty sure most men in that position are aware of their circumstances, kicking them while they're down does nothing. I'm all for "I just say it like it is" but this doesn't say anything. "You're a fat fuck" is both blunt, and a necessary truth. Could be phrased more kindly, but whatever, I'm never the one to care about phrasing. "You're a fucking pathetic loser" may be blunt and a truth, but it accomplishes nothing. Why is the person a pathetic loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:28 PM
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Lmao yeah that's a classic. Not a smart thing to do on reddit, lest you wanna be bothered making a new account.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:26 PM
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You are correct. In my country we have the same word for kind and nice so to me they are the same, but separating it like this makes it much clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:24 PM
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Banned from reddit or from the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:22 PM
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That's just semantics, we mean the same thing. Obviously a lack of assertiveness is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:20 PM
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I mentioned, is often where those come from. I'll disagree. "do you see this? This is the single most important piece of our machinary, nothing works without it" "so should we focus on it when searching for problems?" "nonono" You're acting like a classic blue pill woman now. When have I ever said don't do it? I said it's just an initial bar. Obviously you gotta be able to clear the bar. But other stuff is more important after the bar rather than going for top 0.01% physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:16 PM
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Nobody cares about the older women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:03 PM
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Don't even bring politics into here unless you wanna start explaining why a lot of females actively vote against their own interests by importing millions of rapefugees.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:55 PM
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Are you a woman? If yes, enjoy. If not, why whine about it instead of working on yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:54 PM
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He cannot. I disagree vehemently with blue pillers/women that virgin dudes are just whiners that look for excuses to hate on women, but fuck me if he isn't a prime example. I insist that most virgin men are not like that, but when you see something like this I can see why they may hold that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:53 PM
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Agreed fully, this is well known to RP for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:49 PM
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Can you quantifiably list the self improvements you made? Not "I went to the gym" meaning went for a month and quit. Write down exactly how much self improvement you did, over what period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:22 PM
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Yeah looking at that post of yours and your other comments, you have PLENTY OF OTHER ISSUES, no need to focus on your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:19 PM
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So fuck women like that, find yourself a virgin for an actual relationship. I despite the blue pillers that say "virgin men are just whiny bitches that can't take advice when it's offered to them" but holy shit are you making a case for them right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:17 PM
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If you're not shorter than the average woman, you're not starting off from an unbeatable position. Can do a lot of other stuff to compensate. If you are shit man, that sucks. Can still get a girl if you max out in other areas but it's gonna suck either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:07 PM
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If you are in your late 20s and a virgin, you ARE a fucking pathetic loser. Now that's a real helpful sentence right there. Your comment is VERY insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:06 PM
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That's making excuses. I went from 0 success with women to being able to get a hot girl at will. Again, you can cry about it, or you can work on yourself and play the game with a much better hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:04 PM
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Date younger. Plenty of 20 year olds without a past. Well, plenty when compared to 30 at least. But they exist somewhat, unlike the unicorn that is a 30 year old virgin (and if she exists, she's butt ugly, that is the only reason for it, so you don't want her anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:54 AM
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While yes, I don't think there is anything inherently wrong or bad about those men, having been one myself once upon a time, I partially agree. Blame whoever you want, just don't use it as an excuse not to improve yourself. Game will be played with or without you, and no amount of crying about it will change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:52 AM
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Being a jerk doesn't help, but being "nice" doesn't really help much either. You have to be attractive first and not boring second, everything else comes after. Yep. Being nice is not a negative, it is simply completely irrelevant in the initial attraction stage. It's like if a girl had a good job. Obviously it's good for the long term, but completely irrelevant initially, won't make up for if she's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:44 AM
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I am 6ft 246lbs 28% bf down from 310 60% bf. I promise you you would not make it through my workout. So you're fat? My leg workouts would drop you dead lmao, sometimes I do 70+ squats (weights included obviously) in a set. Chad is about your face and hair not strictly physique. You refuse to acknowledge dudes can hit the gym and still be ugly. Chad is many things. Gym changes your face, too. My personality is no issue no matter how much my musculature is greater than dudes around me women do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:39 AM
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This man has taken every excuse he can get to not fucking get his ass off the couch, hit the gym, and better himself instead of crying whaaa it's not fair. And nobody mentioned 30. Whoever you are right now, no matter what age, within 2 or 3 years you could be Chad, if you actually get off your ass instead of whining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:12 AM
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This is most of the issue with this sort of comment, a lot of men that do this and reach lates 30s think they got now in dating because of self improvement as opposite of being the fact women options started to dismiss. Who the hell mentioned late 30s? And yeah, it takes a while. You can whine about it or you can do it, it's on you which one you'll do. This the primary bar to clear, nothing start before it. Okay? Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:58 AM
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Kinda putting the cart before the horse here. You won't have fun if you are stuck trying to "not mess it up", ironically leading to more chances of messing it up. But I get it, it's not as simple as just saying "just have fun bro". All I can say is, once you get good enough at attracting women, you will also "have fun", cause you won't be thinking about whether you're fucking up, you'll do everything you should naturally and just be thinking "weeeeee".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:16 AM
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The people that are "locked out of dating" if they genuinely improved themselves (hit the gym for several years, get a good hair/beard combo and good fitting clothes) is not nearly as high as you think. Looks are merely a bar to clear, unless on extreme ends of the scale (yes, Chad can fuck a lot on looks alone, medically crippled fat midget can be as funny as he wants and he won't do shit). For most people deeply focusing on them isn't really worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:11 AM
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Hi /u/FunnyCry5856 The tl;dr response to your statement, which I agree with... yes, being a jerk helps. But it is not optimal. It's not that women actually want an asshole that beats them, it's just that dudes who are "jerks" also demonstrate a lot of short-term attractive traits along with their jerkiness. It's not that being a jerk directly attracts them, it's everything else that usually comes with it (confidence, leadership, teasing, general charisma required to be a "jerk" without people ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:06 AM
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Once a cheater, always a cheater. It doesn't matter how "alpha" you are, if she did it before she'll do it again over the smallest mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:59 AM
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Have you ever considered not being outraged at everything and not twisting everything to your biased worldview? Whoever mentioned porn and sex? Women are less fun in any interaction than men, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:41 PM
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Perhaps women should consider being more fun and less bitchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:01 PM
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Sexual and romantic are the same for me, and presumably most men. I don't want anything romantic to do with any man. Cuddling and being all cutesy go hand in hand with sex. Everything else, men do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:30 PM
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Yes, I'm aware of how the concept works in general. Language mixup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:20 AM
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What the fuck does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:17 AM
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official childcare That is what I assumed you meant. English is not my first language, did not know it's a separate word.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:16 AM
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Only two times? Smh OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:43 AM
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Do men even like women? Most men probably prefer the average man to an average woman for everything except sex. I know I do. The existence of straight men is proof being gay is not a choice, cause if I could, I'd swap in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:02 AM
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Dead wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:01 AM
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Confirmation bias. There are infinite anime with non-perverted storylines. Look at the mainstream ones like Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist, Attack on Titan.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:00 AM
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"It's some weird online stuff babe, I like ragebaiting losers online, don't worry about it". Then I get into explaining what ragebaiting is, and she loses interest and forgets about everything, slotting it in as part of my weird charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:57 AM
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It isn't. Learn game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:56 AM
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If we restrict debate to only people who are able to follow a flow of logic this sub is prolly toast tbh. But I respect your hustle. NGL the sub is pointless since only 1/10 people can participate. 6/10 can't follow basic logic, and 3/10 intentionally misinterpret you to "get you".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:55 AM
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Here as in the very comments to this post? Perhaps not. Here as in the sub and especially general reddit? The default assumption by most women and bluepillers is "if he's a virgin he must be a sexist misogynistic pig".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:54 AM
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it just means attraction is more subconscious than logical Which is exactly what I said? But attraction is subconscious. The issue is that the advice is useless, not "taking it too literally".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:36 AM
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I think you're reversing it OP. It's not "women are immature because we treat them that way". We treat them that way because they are mentally stuck at 18. Oldest teenager in the house. They develop faster than men early on, you can't compare an 18 year old girl to an 18 year old guy, but then they plateau at that point, whereas men catch up to them at around 25 and then continue developing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:11 PM
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And that is pure projection on your end, because you have no arguments, got got, and can only resort to "muh incel". Unfortunately for you, that is the exact opposite of the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:26 PM
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Now that you're admitting it's all a lie Way to twist my words into the exact opposite of what I said. You are EVIDENTLY arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:07 PM
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So to you the only acceptable evidence is one that a higher governing body claims as true? Talk about being unable to think for yourself. The evidence is evident and present, just not "officially signed on".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:56 PM
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No? You're confusing "put your best effort into everything you do" with "do nothing out of fear of fucking up". The two are not at all related. You can "accept" that your current status is imperfect. Imperfect job, imperfect body. But you don't accept the mediocre work position until retirement. You don't lazily go to the gym twice a week. You always strive to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:41 PM
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Frame + status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:38 PM
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Thanks for the new sub friend. Anyway, I disagree with the dude. "Is it really worth i..." Yes it fucking is. Are you a gigachad 10/10? Presumably not, so why bother thinking about it. You can get pretty much the same behavior, it's just your game has to make her so irrationally attracted, rather than just the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:36 PM
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Kek.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:33 PM
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That kind of mindset breeds mediocrities. I'm just not sure if the reason behind your post was malice or a lack of awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:31 PM
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Dae le ebin fairy in the sky doesn't exist fellow atheists? xD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:30 PM
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Decent post, OP. The women seething in the comments proves it even more true. Tons of guys who would make perfect long term partners lack the ability to attract in the short term, so they are invisible to women. And then they say "where have all the good men gone?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:54 AM
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shared hobbies and political views don't matter for compatibility? Hobbies and politics are miles apart. Not having share hobbies is not an issue if you align on core values, which does tend to correlate with political views. 1/2 for OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:50 AM
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We don't actually, but when blue pillers have no arguments they revert to that, as demonstrated countless times on this very post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:38 AM
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So... you are agreeing with the premise of the debate that asking women for advice doesn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:33 AM
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I believe that you READ it. You evidently did not understand it, given you seem to read it as "I asked women for advice and it doesn't work plz help" rather than the intended meaning. Which I'll let you think about as homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:31 AM
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There's 2 different things I am talking about here. The way I behave, and consider correct, which is being genuine, like I said above. Non-commital, but open to committing. But also, if I really did just want to fuck, I am sure I could just as easily "fake it", but your implication that it would lead to a sexless relationship is... I don't even know where it came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:30 AM
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You watch how people act and deduce their intent. If you think that you can hide your intent by changing your actions, then that just won't work because sure you'll fool whoever's trying to judge you but you'll also end up acting against yourself. That's what I meant, mostly. And that is exactly why you cannot even begin to understand what I am saying. Why the fuck would I tell you to "act against yourself"? You want pussy only, you master game, attract many women, give a non-committal but genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:12 AM
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I have yet to see any study support red pill claims. Even if not a single study ever "confirmed" anything red pill (which they do, just the practical advice part, not the generalization parts) none of that is necessary. The only proof a man would need is simply doing what the red pill says, seeing it work beyond his wildest dreams, and then using his own brain to say "hey this works", rather than being a redditor and going "uhmm source!?!?!?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:56 AM
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That is a whole buttload of assumptions you just made, all of which are incorrect. For example this If you want pussy but you don't make moves to get that pussy and instead make moves to further a sexless relationship you find no joy in, then you're playing yourself. Literally how in the fuck did you come up with that? I guess it's also funny how "stereotypes exist for a reason" right up until racism is brought up. Nope. Those stereotypes definitely do exist for a reason, but that's not really t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:53 AM
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That's a whole lot of incorrect assumptions on your part lol. And a lack of reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:09 AM
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The problem is that if you're really just a guy who wants pussy and there's nothing more to it, then any self-respecting woman will pick up on that and be like "I don't want that sort of relationship, I will walk away". Nope, women flaunt their "instinct" but can't actually tell if you do it properly. Therefore the women that are left are the ultra stereotyped women that you redpillers know so much about. I bet you'd like that to be the case, but stereotypes exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:09 AM
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I can't speak for all RP men but you know what they say about assumptions. Curious that /u/gdognoseit had nothing to say on the topic further.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:07 AM
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Way to act the victim. That's one of your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:27 PM
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Practice makes permanent, not perfect. If all you did was socialize incorrectly, no wonder it didn't work. You can't just beat your head against the wall and hope it breaks down. Learn general charisma and "game", THEN go to those events.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:18 PM
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https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1GyR5vwLjd9ZA31sZafI4hx7NRS3g9YpU Highly recommend reading it all (start from #0 to understand why the pdf says "incomplete"), but there is a recap of each chapter if you're lazy (though will obviously not mean much to you unless you read the actual thing it's recapping), and the most relevant ones are 3 and 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:03 PM
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So, if a man asks me how to get me, it will be different than what my friend would like. That is because you are not aware of how many "same" things you like. What you are talking about is stuff that is ultimately irrelevant, compared to the ways your attraction can be influenced on a much deeper subconscious level, which is much the same for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:53 PM
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Apps make looks incredibly more relevant, yes. I don't recommend apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:48 PM
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Yes, indeed. I said "do both".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:48 PM
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All of that is trumped by "get good at charisma". I can't really make a bet with you, but if you'd be interested in my advice, I'll gladly share it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:49 PM
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I notice "learning social skills" isn't on that list. That's more important than any looksmaxxing (but is not exclusive of it, do both).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:47 PM
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Hey man, I notice you didn't mention "learning social skills". I think you may be helped by the (free) book I'm writing, catered specifically to people who don't know even the most obvious things (I am autistic myself). If you (or anyone else) wish to give it a shot, feel free to message me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:46 PM
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we all hear the classic advice- gym, socialize, groom yourself, dress well, establish a career All of this is good, but is ignoring the key point. Social skills >>> looksmaxing. You should do both, but looksmaxing alone won't give you as good results as simply being extremely charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:43 PM
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lifts are not socially acceptable for men to wear. Literally nobody is going to notice a one inch lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:42 PM
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The dude I know IRL that fucks the most out of anyone looks like Sid from Ice Age and is slightly taller than the average woman. Your take is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:42 PM
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Most red pilled guys flaired here are just blackpillers, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:41 PM
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If 80–99% of men are (by this logic) clueless and/or unsuccessful, why is male advice supposed to be so much more valuable than female advice? SUCCESSFUL male advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:40 PM
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What about men who don't filter and simply take just men's advice? Those men are retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:40 PM
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You are literally proving my post. The lack of self awareness. When women do end up giving advice, they will state long-term criteria that is only relevant to a guy she is already attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:39 PM
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They are saying "you are the sucker" they are selling shit to you and not to women. No shit? I think you also may need to work on the reading comprehension bit. I've been aware of that since the first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:37 PM
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There was none. I am in the same city I grew up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:22 PM
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We're on a sub for generalizations, if I genuinely meant it to be 100% true in all cases, I'd have clarified. It doesn't need to be clarified that is not what I mean, it's such an absurd opinion to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:29 PM
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I feel you are vast overestimating how common women like you are. Which is the point of the post. I did not say "not a single woman ever in the history of mankind has given proper advice".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:17 PM
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That is a whole different topic that this man has explained better than I ever could: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qwfhqb/whats_the_difference_between_the_red_pill_and/o3p8b57/ /u/violentshallot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:57 PM
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She can be as amazing as she wants, no hymen no diamond. Don't settle fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:54 AM
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What would you recommend him to do? Learn game and lose it with a 6/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:52 AM
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They're not desirable because of their high n counts. Women are more attracted to taken men than single ones, proved in a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:51 AM
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This implies the first progenitor discovered absolutely everything on its own, rather than it being refined through generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:34 AM
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I can accept that statement holds true as long as you accept it's correct for a much smaller amount of guys than you think. You need to be an actual 0/10 defective dead end for it to be true, being fat or ugly does not make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:33 AM
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And that is the core of why people don't like "the red pill". You can say you don't like it all you want, the issue is people claiming it doesn't work in spite of reality proving the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:28 AM
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So you have "checkmated" me by twisting what I said into the exact opposite of what it meant? You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:27 AM
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Hello, woman on this sub here. I haven’t seen that advice be shared anywhere here personally. Re Perhaps not on this sub. Reading comprehension does wonders for debates, I'd recommend practicing it. As far as the rest of your comment, I state in like the third sentence of the OP that being friends first does not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:06 AM
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The guy that fucks the most IRL that I know looks like Sid the Sloth from ice age, and is barely taller than the average woman. Looks are a bar which you have to clear, after which they become irrelevant unless on extreme ends of the scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:03 AM
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Its immature to not be considerate of people in your life that you supposedly care about. Yes, it is immature not to be considerate of people. We just happen to disagree that caring about people's birthdays once you're older than like 20 means you are considerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:01 AM
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I'm just gonna tell you to work on your reading comprehension once more, and not respond to this comment chain any longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:59 AM
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Reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:54 AM
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If all you care about is "getting chicks" (I'm guessing for short term) You would guess wrong, but to get someone long term you must first get them short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:53 AM
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Not taking away from your hard work of course but if "meals by cug" hit the gym and got a good haircut do you think he'd be successful with women? No, because physical improvement matters a lot less than social. But if he hit the gym, got a good haircut AND mastered game I think he'd be successful yeah. Re; second paragraph, I'm not sure where are the posts I've moved? I'll answer your question though. No, lucking out and sleeping with a few women does not really mean success. It's being able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:52 AM
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They're not trying to sell tips on getting women to women? Say it ain't so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:48 AM
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I think you need to clarify just what "struggle financially means". Cause if it means "you have a beater car, rent your place, and can't afford vacations every year, but your kids don't go hungry" I'm going option 3. If it means "you are the living embodiment of those fake game ads where a mother and daughter are freezing in a house with holes instead of windows" I'm going option 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:47 AM
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Women listen to group think a lot more than men. Could go all evo-psych into why that is, but I don't think it's necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:44 AM
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There's so much advice, yes. Most men don't know that advice exists. TRP was there before I found it, that doesn't mean everyone preaches it. The media directly decries TRP stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:42 AM
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I think it's like the oldest one for why you shouldn't listen to women for dating advice. And why is it the oldest? Idk maybe fishing was overwhelmingly male or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:41 AM
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Every BP comment I have to play a game of "reading comprehension issues, lack of awareness, or acting dumb on purpose?" There's at least like 5 here that intentionally misinterpret what I said as "not a single woman has ever given a valuable piece of advice, and reading the TRP sidebar will get every single woman on planet earth interested in you". One size fits most indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:39 AM
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It is perfectly good advice to bring flowers. And give compliments. And be nice and kind. No need for RP negging, push-pull bullshit. Bring flowers? No. Give compliments? Yes, but not constantly, and only personality based ones, not tits and ass. Be nice and kind? Sure, but it's only relevant long term. Not on the first date. Negging and push/pull are not the same. Negging is bullshit, playful push/pull is something women crave. If you don't know the difference I'd be glad to explain it to you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:37 AM
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That "familial" comparison is almost word for word what I wrote in my book about why you shouldn't be friends first. She ends up thinking of you like her brother... or a lamp. Either way, a completely non-sexual object.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:34 AM
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There's nothing to "come back to", 75% of TRP is still gold. To attract long term, you must first attract in the short term. It's just the mindset and long term relationship stuff that I disagree with. It doesn't matter if women are hypergamous, just do the things you should be doing, be the best one she can get, and it's irrelevant. In the book I'm writing on the topic I try real hard to stick to actionable advice, and leave the ideology aside, even if I may believe it. Negging may work in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:33 AM
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There are social consequences to giving constructive criticism to emotionally unstable people. Such as... helping them out and them being thankful? If someone actually blows up at you over actionable advice, let them be retarded, but how about you actually try to help? If you try to give constructive criticism to someone they are going to get mad at you. If you try to give constructive criticism to women they are going to get mad at you. While there are some men like that, and I'll admit I may b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:30 AM
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Except, to continue the fishing analogy, TRP and other advice online teaches you how to fish well enough in general that, rather than focusing on the tuna, you just keep fishing, taking a bite out of every fish that isn't a tuna, dumping it back into the lake, and then finally taking the tuna home once one bites.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:27 AM
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A LOT of communication that a woman feels is through non-verbal cues, and it DIRECTLY IMPACTS ATTRACTIVENESS. I'm sorry if you were neurodivergent or untrained in picking up on this, but this is a socialized aspect that occurs everyday. And that's why people came up with TRP/PUA/Social Dynamics. I am a giga autist and I have essentially rid myself of it for all intents and purposes. My brain still functions like an autist's, but it's been several years now that anyone IRL could tell, and even mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:25 AM
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Did you have AI generate this? Not that it's necessarily wrong, the phrasing, especially the first paragraph screams AI. Anyway, all of that is true, but I wouldn't say those are the most important things, and it's also INCREDIBLY GENERAL and unexplained. HOW does one read the room? HOW does one stop being desperate for validation? HOW does one be positive if his entire life up till now was crap? It's a small step up from saying "just be chad". Like no shit women are going to love a hot, fit, st…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:19 AM
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That’s not proof it’s wrong though, it just means there isn’t a single formula. But there is, and that formula can be found across the internet, many parts of which in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:16 AM
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One that can get women consistently. One that, if he found himself single, can hook up with another woman of relatively equal SMV or higher, in a short time period. Fucking fatties and uggos doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:16 AM
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That's a whole different topic, and the reason TRP and PUA are decried as "sexist" and "don't work" by women and the media. Here's an amazing comment that explains it. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qwfhqb/whats_the_difference_between_the_red_pill_and/o3p8b57/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:13 AM
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If someone can't be bothered to learn the actual shit test response techniques such as AA or pressure flip, the best general rule of thumb is to respond with anything except a direct answer to the question being proposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:10 AM
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You are confusing needs and wants. Plenty of people have the actual NEEDS I want, such as generally being a positive person, good relationship with her family, not jealous and emotionally mature. There is no circle for that. The wants are stuff such as "is she into anime and video games" and that's not as relevant for a truly stable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:09 AM
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A large percentage of dudes HERE flaired red are as you say. Those people would be laughed out of 2017 TRP and told to come back once out of the anger phase. Redpill techniques don't get any less relevant just because blackpilled losers flaired themselves as red.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:07 AM
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Just advice from people is just less reliable compared to learning through general cultural absorption. Advice from people that don't know shit* is less reliable. Advice from people who get chicks constantly and have the self awareness to spell out how to do it is worth 100 years of "general cultural absorption" for the average guy, and like 10 times that for an autistic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:05 AM
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Pretty much spot on, yeah. I think the analogy will fly over most BP's heads though, given they still can't understand the point even after I spell it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:03 AM
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That generalization is correct mostly, but ignores the outliers (aka men that know game).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:03 AM
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That is completely irrelevant to the debate, my guy. This post is not me asking for advice, this post is me proposing the statement stated in the comment you directly replied to, and seeing if anyone has a coherent answer. Approximately 50% don't say anything of worthwhile or go for ad hominems (like you), ~40% are in the "that doesn't happen at all, women don't give that advice" category, and 10% are in the "here's some advice that actually works" category, which is nice and all, but still not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:02 AM
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That's a real blackpilled take. I was a KV autist until I was 18 and then I changed into someone extremely successful with women over the following several years. And the only thing that changed looks wise was hitting the gym and going to a better barber.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:57 AM
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No, it is obvious you have no arguments and respond with ad hominems. Which, unfortunately for you, do not apply at all in this case. Not only can I get women at will, I am currently in a ~ 2 year LTR which is the healthiest relationship I know IRL. I am well aware being friends first does not work, that is among the first things I have written. Does your brain immediately go full white knight mode and cannot read past the second sentence? Might wanna work on that. It's like you're intentionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:08 PM
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Women tend to focus on soothing one's self-esteem rather than risk kicking someone who is already down with brutal honesty. You have to read the room. Women are not going to tell someone who is fixated on being unattractive with an explanation on why they are unattractive. That is a huge error on their part. "How do I do X" And your solution is to not tell them how to do X. "It's not about the nail video" except rather than just ripping the nail out of their head you insist on talking about it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:15 PM
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Not on all, but advice given by successful men (on TRP) tends to work in an overwhelmingly higher percentage of the cases than advice given by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:14 PM
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Nope. I am talking general advice which works on nearly all women. That "compatibility" you speak of? Can have that with almost anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:10 PM
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Problem is that oftentimes people complain that it is too general. Nothing I've listed is "general" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:03 PM
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Most "naturals" also cannot give proper advice. A sorcerer cannot teach you how to do magic. He just waves his hands around and it happens. To learn magic, you must learn from a wizard that started at 0, just like you. He'll point you in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:01 PM
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Misinterpreting my literal words doesn't work when anyone can read exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:57 PM
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You might be of a different branch. My flair implies that the red pill is a stepping stone only.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:43 PM
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minority I bet you'd like that to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:42 PM
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So do you actually want to respond to the debate or? I don't need help, my guy. I give it to men. This is purely a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:37 PM
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Yet a near universal formula exists in the form of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:34 PM
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What does optimally mean? Not interpret stuff such as "always assume attraction" to mean "be an annoying retard that can't take no for an answer" rather than the actual "confidence is important, assuming attraction will naturally make you demonstrate other attractive traits, self-fulfilling prophecy is a thing, and demonstrating you know when to back off if it doesn't work out may even work in your favor". What kind of RP advice are you following that works 100% of the time? Want an entire list?…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:32 PM
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Please refrain from intentionally misinterpreting my post as "no woman ever in the history of the world has given advice that works to a man". Treat it like someone interested in a debate would, which is "an overwhelmingly large amount of women are not qualified to give advice to men on dating".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:27 PM
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I still dispute the longterm effectiveness, the positive impact and the actual understanding of what women want at a fundamental level beyond getting a notch on your belt. And that is what the second sentence in my comment immediately above is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:22 PM
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One is that they are INCAPABLE of telling you. The other is that they CHOOSE NOT TO tell you. And both are true, which is what I have stated. A very small amount of women is equipped to give functionable advice. But as a generalized norm, it still has failure cases. Nothing works 100%, but doing everything TRP says PROPERLY approaches that number.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:14 PM
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Dating is a lot of trial and error and luck. Nothing works in 100% of the cases, but TRP style advice sure seems to work at something approaching 100% if you do it optimally. Doing what most women tell you IRL is counterproductive, no matter how well you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:13 PM
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I have almost never seen women give advice that says be friends first. Perhaps not on this sub, but we're a bit of a self-selecting group here. The advice is overwhelmingly common IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:09 PM
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I don't think it is something that positively fixes, truly understands or positive effects male-female dynamics at a core level however. Some things, such as "negging", are "exploits to manipulate" that you mention, but I do not teach men to use that. Push/pull implemented playfully is something that "truly understands and positive affects male-female dynamics at a core level".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:08 PM
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According to the experiences of anyone ever who implemented TRP advice and went from 0 attraction to being able to get them at will?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:03 PM
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Yeah. A lot of advice doesn’t work. This includes women’s. The point of the debate is that women's advice works in an extremely small minority of cases, as compared to men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:03 PM
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I disagree that you need to "match your circumstance", because an incredibly high amount of TRP advice works on an overwhelmingly large amount of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:02 PM
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It sure doesn't seem difficult for most people to grasp the meaning behind my words, unless of course they are intentionally being obtuse about it. Advice that most women give to men regarding how to attract other women is absolutely worthless for those men. There.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:00 PM
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So google goomba fallacy to understand what it is and why you are committing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:58 PM
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woman flair I am sure you can determine that the topic of my debate is not lesbian focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:58 PM
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Advice in general doesn't work because people are individuals, not hiveminds. Yet "general red pill advice" works on an overwhelmingly large amount of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:56 PM
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Then they complain to their mommy, sister, gf, or wife how no one cares about them fr. Please don't goomba fallacy me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:23 PM
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Men literally just function differently, on a much more practical, not transactional level. It's 0 practical value to practice "mutual care" about what's going on in another person's life. If it's relevant to me, they'll say it, if it isn't, why the fuck would I bother them about it? I forgot my best friend's birthday 3 years in a row cause I would get 06/05 and 05/06 mixed up. He forgot mine and it's fucking 9/9, the most common birthday. But that didn't mean anything, we're adults and don't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:55 PM
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I just mean if I was Chad 3000 I wonder if I would give a shit If you were Chad 3000 you would definitely not be settling for anything except someone being completely "fuck yes" for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:27 PM
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I know it comes from a place of insecurity No it doesn't, that's a meme coming from women. Nothing insecure about that, quite the opposite in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:42 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:31 AM
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I don't think "not having to work a soul crushing 9-5" counts as sacrifice, nor do I think something better for society overall solely improves men's lives, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:54 PM
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For overall societal betterment? Women getting the right to work has been one of the greatest fuckups in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:50 PM
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Yes, I am upset and would like it changed. I know I myself cannot change it, and women would be the first to push back against going back to the better time when only 1 parent worked and was able to maintain a family. Only thing you as a solitary man can do is become the alpha. Give me a magic wand that makes it possible for me to do anything, and I will do what you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:01 PM
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You've made up a strawman to argue against. Nobody will change your mind, you've already decided. For the people who actually aren't female incels... your brain literally changes once you become a guy that has options. A guy without much success in general won't "quietly want to", no, most of them believe in that whole disney love crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:32 PM
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Lotr movies are overhyped. 5/10 at best. I always fall asleep out of boredom when watching them, no matter how many times I try.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:27 AM
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If your advice about anything beyond the most basic stuff is worthless as a general rule, your advice isn't good lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:26 AM
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It's 2 or 3 minutes before that shows up. If you respond quickly enough, you seem like you can't read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:24 AM
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Night out. Two mutual friend groups converged together. I took the opportunity. On our first date (didn't seal the deal that night) we went to the mall, walked around, had coffee and talked. Nothing special.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:23 AM
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Holy shit the lack of awareness. Have you considered that for some people it's not as simple as "just develop social skills bro"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:33 AM
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Lmao the hobby meme. Not only is it godawful as advice, it also isn't at all true for LTRs. I have absolutely 0 overlap with my girl when it comes to hobbies (I'm your classic nerd and she's as normie as it gets) yet it's the strongest LTR I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:19 AM
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No it isn't. Try until you succeed, if it's something you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:21 PM
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Difference between relative and absolute percentage... or something. 1% vs 8% is incredible difference, 50% vs 57% is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:50 PM
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Misogynistic grifting bullshit has always been a core part of it. The fact that the ideology was always "misogynistic" (which is completely irrelevant to logical discussion of whether TRP has merit btw) has nothing to do with the fact that "red pill as a toolbox" and "self improvement" were the core of TRP back in 2017 when I found it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:48 PM
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Don't forget shit tests and push/pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:47 PM
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If you only face rejections then giving up it's a wise choice. No, that's being a bitch. You didn't try hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:46 PM
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That sounds like a great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:43 PM
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So vet properly before you put out. Then when you put out for the right man immediately, he's happy, you're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:29 PM
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I have yet to see a case where a guy actualy gave an honest and hard effort at increasing his '' Looks → Exposure → Social Skill / Escalation'' and didn't at least have some success. That's cause you're choosing not to. I got really buff and put myself out there but was still socially retarded. Best I could do was makeout at parties. Never get a relationship. Telling a guy to "just put himself out there and it'll work out bro" is retarded if the guy has demonstrated he's not very good at that. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:56 AM
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Yeah so how about you just do a quick google search, it should make it obvious exactly why it is indeed "both claims made by men".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:53 AM
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So at this point, the messaging doesn’t match the behavior. Men publicly idealize one type of woman but privately reward another. I think you're missing one very obvious point. Hoe that puts out >>> good girl that makes you wait. If you're a "good girl", however you defined that but let's assume we vaguely know what you mean, AND you put out, you will be treated better. Good girl that puts out >>>>>>>>> hoe that puts out >>> good girl that makes you wait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hoe that makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:51 AM
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If you look better at 40 than 20, you were fucked up in your 20s. Assuming same lifestyle you'd still have looked better in 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:44 AM
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The hypocrisy on this sub is astounding. How can “all women are hypergamous and have all the dating options whilst men have none” and “men don’t like older ugly hoes” both be true?” It's easy to make it sound like hypocrisy when you combine the goomba fallacy and a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:43 AM
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never tell you what kind of bias is suspected because they can’t. Confirmation bias is... a bias, my guy. And a very well defined one at that.
/r/seduction27/02/26 08:14 AM
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I was terrible before, but I did research and reflected on what went bad. Now I do well in interviews. This same approach works with dating. The same approach MAY work for some people, but probably not for most guys that actually have issues dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:11 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:10 AM
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Even the whole the wall thing is nonsense. Women are pursued and wanted all the way into their 40s and 50s. The wall is relevant for quality men to commit. There will always be simps and suckers, or guys that want a quick pump n dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:42 PM
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It's not true love without it. If you so truly love the other person, why would you not want to do it with them? And don't bring up asex, injuries, or other outliers. We are talking generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:19 PM
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Still a few sentences in there that scream AI, like "Turns out, it usually shows up after you make a move, not before." and "Real life is way messier than a table full of jam jars". You missed the larger point, though, AI or not, his major premise wilts in the light of common experience: it is glaringly false that many relationships remain stable for much longer than a year--unless by "stability", you skim the deck and define a natural, predictable fall-off in sex, "unstable". You missed reading…
/r/seduction26/02/26 12:10 PM
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The very first sentence of your example screams AI. It is not OP's tone.
/r/seduction26/02/26 10:28 AM
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Texting should be done primarily for logistics, not to create a connection. Do that IRL. For an initial message and the followups, do the same thing I said. Make assumptions based on her profile. You can read more about it (and everything else) here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1GyR5vwLjd9ZA31sZafI4hx7NRS3g9YpU Look for lesson 18.
/r/seduction26/02/26 09:40 AM
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I hate this zoomer unreadable brainrot. Write like a normal person dammit.
/r/seduction26/02/26 09:25 AM
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18-24 is the most good looking group. Obviously case-by-case dependent when exactly in the range they are at the hottest, I've seen 14 year olds I thought were 25, and then some 25 year old chick looks 20. But generally, 18-24 is as good as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:10 AM
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No sex IS abuse, unless she lets you fuck others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:08 AM
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Like why are y'all so committed to be unhappy? Because society not being degenerate >>>> one person's happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:07 AM
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Not all of us are social butterflies. Some of us need the practice. Practice makes permanent, not perfect. If you're not a social butterfly, you won't "figure it out" just cause you go on more dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:43 AM
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So I think it’s pretty clear that there is a problem in modern male psychology. Women dump men after they emotionally open themselves and you manage to turn that around into it being the men's fault? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:40 AM
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There's the catch that distilling something so complex into something so simple only helps someone who doesn't need the advice in the first place.
/r/seduction26/02/26 08:23 AM
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And I can then say that you are all basically disgusting hypergamous bitches?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:22 AM
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torrent (get it?) Lmao tl;dr, the best approach to approaching, is to be more human (as clichéd as it sounds). tldr yes, except for those of us who suck being "human" by most people's measures (autism for example). Those guys need some very specific and detailed steps to reproduce,
/r/seduction26/02/26 08:21 AM
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And so is the hotness gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:19 AM
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Writing an academic paper and writing tips to get women are miles apart. No AI I've seen can replicate the "tone" of a PUA.
/r/seduction26/02/26 08:18 AM
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Not everything is AI slop. That term has become so overused. I don't believe most general purpose AI would write anything close to this. That said, I disagree that there can be no stable relationships, but OP has kind of defined his own definition of "stable", and by that definition he's right.
/r/seduction26/02/26 12:12 AM
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Will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:25 PM
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Cold reading is the next step, indeed.
/r/seduction25/02/26 11:25 PM
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I also desire for a functional and optimal family.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:28 PM
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Studies in general are often designed to confirm a narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:27 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:26 PM
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This is entry level stuff, you are showing the advanced class (and potentially entering a dubious moral dilemma not everybody will agree with).
/r/seduction25/02/26 08:55 PM
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Yes, I generally want to fuck attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:18 PM
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When you find what you're looking for, you won't want variety. I disagree. I'm in the best LTR I've ever had, with the hottest girl I know IRL. But I still want variety. If you eat even the most perfect meal every day, sometimes you're gonna get a craving for a pizza. The difference is in being able to control yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:10 PM
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I wouldn't say I NEED it. I feel a great desire for it. But I'm not an animal. I can control myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:07 PM
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Thank you! If you want more advice like this, feel free to check out the (free) book I'm writing on seduction in general right now. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1GyR5vwLjd9ZA31sZafI4hx7NRS3g9YpU
/r/seduction25/02/26 07:05 PM
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I'm starting to get this slight feeling there are more pressing issues at hand than you not being 6'0.
/r/seduction25/02/26 04:38 PM
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Have you considered that that is a far inferior way of evaluating the text rather than reading the contents? Also, the bolding is not random.
/r/seduction25/02/26 03:42 PM
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What has this world come to when writing more than 3 paragraphs makes people think it's AI. God forbid I included a hyphen.
/r/seduction25/02/26 03:35 PM
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Are you a 6'0 Chad? I don't see the point of focusing on others. Focus on yourself and what you can do.
/r/seduction25/02/26 03:17 PM
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Inserting emotions into your conversations is terribly important, but we are going one step at a time. Too much instruction at once can cause confusion. Explaining the importance of emotions would make this already lengthy post something most skip over. I'm glad comments like yours are here to expand on that though.
/r/seduction25/02/26 02:04 PM
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The keyword you added but he did not is "here".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:50 PM
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The place I'm in has 12000 people, I'm 27. Have no problem getting friends with college aged dudes through the gym which leads to plenty of parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:33 AM
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Very much depends on just how "old" it is you are. I disagree that it's an issue when you're 30. 40? Yeah I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:53 AM
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There is nobody who is interested in nothing, that's not what I said. There can be plenty of people interested in nothing that lets them interact with women they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:19 PM
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fucking only 15% of the time you're together Damn bro, I think you gotta get your test levels checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:52 PM
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You try and find absolutely nothing. Now what? Accept defeat? No. You look for actionable advice which actually works, not some vague "join a hobby" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:51 PM
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I disagree very slightly. "Join hobbies" is trash tier advice for anyone... But "expand your social circle" is very good advice in my personal experience. They do not have to "set you up" with their friends for you to get an advantage. Simply being invited to a party where you can meet new women is the golden ticket. It's on you to use the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:13 PM
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If you want something, and your wife doesn’t want it, and you choose not to do it, you’re deferring to your wife. She is the captain in that situation. A good captain knows when to listen to others. A bad one crashes the ship over his ego. That said, I see you're just baiting here, so expect no further answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:41 PM
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No. You are conflating "make decisions" with "make decisions only you want".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:22 PM
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That's you saying it, not me. Consciously, they may agree with, and hold that opinion (and we have the evidence right above). But attraction is mostly subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:43 PM
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If leadership is really about competence, it would make more sense for it to be contextual and shared rather than fixed along gendered lines. It would, yes. The female lizard brain disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:32 PM
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Do not deceive or trick your partner. The wife's input is welcomed, but the final decision on most matters of importance is up to you. Or even matters of little importance. Unless she explicitly states "I want to go there and eat this", you are the one that has to pick out where to go and what to eat. All kinds of decisions are left to the man at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:24 PM
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I think the part I struggle with is the assumption that leadership has to be fixed and gendered. Women are naturally attracted to leaders. It's biological. In a lot of strong partnerships, leadership shifts depending on context. One person might lead in some areas and the other in different ones Nobody is saying that you never take your wife's opinion ever. She can go ahead and "take lead" when it comes to cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:22 PM
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the healthiest relationships do not feel hierarchical. They feel cooperative. Feel is the keyword. In the "healthiest" relationships, the man is taking charge while making the woman feel as if she is on equal footing. But he's the captain, and she's the first mate internally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:14 PM
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"Purplepilldebate has no reading comprehension skills" theory proven right once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:22 AM
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I think for a large amount of guys, the issue is that there is nothing obviously wrong with them. They just don't have "it".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:21 AM
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It's too long to go in-depth, but how to actually have "game" or "rizz" as the zoomers would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:21 AM
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"How do I drive a car?" "Just feel the vibes man?" <--- this is something according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:20 AM
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I shouldn’t have to tell someone to get fit. Until very recently, it was extremely social acceptable to spout the lie of "women don't care about muscles" and "they like a bit of chub". I shouldn’t have to tell them to pursue a rewarding and (hopefully) lucrative career. Most guys do not care whether their girlfriend is successful or not, career wise. Unless someone tells them, it is easy to assume girls do not care, either. I think you are way overestimating how "common sense" your advice is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:27 AM
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If people give it as an answer to "how do I improve my love life", I can only assume they claim it "works". I am not arguing against nothing. I am arguing it is nothing, while being presented as an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:02 AM
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Bro wrote a novel generalizing an entire gender based off of one dumbass colleague. I could not think of a better example of the Dunning Kruger effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:20 PM
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"How?" is the question people yell back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:13 PM
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The part where you are wrong, and the red pill is the cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:12 PM
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Is there some mod clarification on blocking genuinely abusive users? As in, hypothetically, if a user kept constantly messaging you, would one be allowed to block such a user?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:35 PM
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Everything you have said I am aware of, my man. You seem to basically agree with what I have said then, that it is useless advice (for the guy anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 04:16 PM
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I think the "just be yourself" advice i have given is often for guys who warp themselves completely and mutate into whatever they think the current woman they like wants. That is such an insignificant minority of guys, when compared to how often this advice is dished out. And of course you should not pretend to be someone who you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 04:09 PM
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It's ABSOLUTELY changing who you are comfortable being in order to cater to the opinion of somebody else. Have you considered for one teeny tiny second that who YOU are and who you are comfortable being changes as well? I started lifting to get women, but I would not stop lifting today even if it had 0 impact on women, because my values changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 04:08 PM
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A lot of people are not reading the title correctly. You can be an average "guy" and probably not struggle with dating. But you could be an average "guy who struggles with dating", in which case you will by definition struggle. We can make averages out of anything. It's a neat little thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:38 PM
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“be the best version of yourself you can be” or “be the version of yourself you wish to meet”. That still leaves us with the question of "how". Young men struggling to date need actionable advice, not empty platitudes and feel good generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:01 PM
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Yes, which is exactly why I am saying it does not work. It is heavily open to interpretation, and even when interpreted in the best possible way it is still not enough to get women on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:35 PM
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Of course, but the amount of by which it affects mate choices is drastically different. For most men it would be quite insignificant on the list of things that make a potential partner worthwhile. For women it is a lot higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:03 PM
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What do you consider practicing correctly vs incorrectly in the context of social skills? Give examples? Practicing incorrectly when it comes to social skills: "Putting yourself out there", doing what you already did, which clearly did not work out for you. You do know the definition of insanity, right? Correctly: Reading up on how to socialize FIRST, THEN putting yourself out there. Are there so many success stories? I literally don’t know a single person who has met their partner / fling / wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:59 PM
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You are explaining exactly why I cannot help people out with math, despite knowing it myself. It just makes sense to me. It's the reason why most "naturals" cannot give dating advice. Which is precisely why the best dating advice comes from men who were once unsuccessful, but then became successful. The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:48 PM
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No. Practice definitely helps you improve. Again, practicing correctly helps you improve. Someone teaching you how to play the piano, then you practicing that makes you good at playing a piano. Playing random keys will most likely not lead you to ever becoming a professional. Glad we now agree that blue pill dating advice is actionable and not just “be yourself”. I don't even know the word for the fallacy you're using, but it sure is one. You've equated the barest minimum of advice, which I had …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:45 PM
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Push/pull, shit tests, and frame are the 3 easiest answers that constantly come to mind when asked this question. There are many more like that but these 3 are the most blatant example of stuff which most people inherently know on some level, but a certain amount do not, and struggle heavily with dating due to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:30 PM
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I like hyperbole :(
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:27 PM
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Yes. That is why you listen to the advice and use your noggin to evaluate and adapt as things might have changed and the manual might not have instructions for unusual things. As the manual can't predict the myriads of combinations. You can get the general gist from the manual, but finetuning to your specific needs might need some trial and error. Of course it needs trial and error. But adapting the manual is red pill advice. "Just go vibe code and you'll get it eventually, that manual is sexist…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:26 PM
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If you're autistic as well, I believe you will be well served by the book I am writing currently on how to get the relationship of your dreams. Feel free to message me for the link (or anyone else reading this, for that matter).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:23 PM
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Part of the problem is that a lot of people have learned the social skills decades ago when they were babies and a lot of it through pure osmosis, so it is very hard to create a manual for it. Except it isn't. Red pill did just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:20 PM
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Yes. Social skills are built through practice, not through someone telling you “when the person says x, you have to respond y”. You have to frequently expose yourself to situations where you meet new people and be proactive in engaging with them, building friendships etc. When you do it over and over again, you will become more comfortable with it and have better social and conversational skills. Practice makes permanent, not perfect. Consistently socializing incorrectly will just make you good.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:20 PM
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The very aptly subreddit titled "TheRedPill". I'm sure you can find it by replacing the url of the one you are on with what I have given you. I can't access it on old reddit either, but changing to new reddit works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:17 PM
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I think the problem is how much are you willing to "fake it till you make it" and still find someone you are compatible with long term. That is not the problem. You are never supposed to fake who you are. You "fake" confidence and charisma until you get actual ones. If you ask me, "just be yourself" should be taken as "be the best version of yourself". Which is still vague, but slightly better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:15 PM
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Have you considered the actual subreddit? It's quarantined or something but I can still view the sidebar on new reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:50 AM
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I would say if a guy has no social skills / no social interactions, he should focus putting himself in many social situations first Ah yes. "That thing you don't know how to do? Yeah just do more of it, it will work out." Practice makes permanent, not perfect. If a guy has genuinely been locked inside his basement for the last 10 years MAAYBE your advice could be worth considering. Most guys have been in social situations and realized they don't know wtf to do. If you have a good vibe with them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:49 AM
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Like, how to attract women. It really depends on what women you want to attract amd in what culture you are. It really doesn't though. TRP gives advice which works consistently for an overwhelming majority of women. Sure there's catering to your niche, but a large amount of advice is applicable to 99% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:44 AM
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I am talking about consistency, not results while you have the job in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:41 AM
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You ARE yourself. You have to be yourself because there is no other option. And I am saying the exact same thing in my post. Everyone is "being themselves". That on its own does not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:26 AM
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Someone who previously worked on the job has written down a manual on how to do the job correctly. Reading it is probably a good idea rather than trying to figure it out on your own. Of course it may not be 100% correct, but it's still a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:25 AM
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The amount of men that "never get to even start at all" is statistically insignificant for the discussion. And I do offer my condolences to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:22 AM
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Answer: "Average" is not the sole word in the title. "Average guy struggling with dating". Average guys are in relationships. I am not talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:21 AM
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If something works “more with some types than others”, it’s not 99% at all. It does not "work with some types more than the others". It works with all types. It is just the dosage required to make it work that changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:20 AM
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Pretty much anything that has to do with improving yourself. Frame and general charisma. Push/pull to varying degrees, a lot more with the hood girl, a lot less with the sheltered girl, but that's just knowing how to dose it. Being able to pass shit tests. Again, a lot more of those will probably come from the hood girl, but the sheltered girl will eventually throw one out subconsciously, and you need to know how to pass it when it comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:13 AM
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The behaviors that attract a low class hood girl are different from the behaviors that attract a quiet girl who likes knitting or reading SOME of the behaviors are different. There are also some that give consistently good results with 99% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:09 AM
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and authentically wants to have to better himself to the extreme, otherwise it isn’t so. If you want results, you have to work for them. Why moan about the game instead of taking the ace up your sleeve TRP gives you and winning?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:07 AM
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This is oftentimes learned though trial and error, you develop a "feeling" for it. I'm pretty sure if a man has reached the point of asking the internet, he has demonstrated that he is not capable of "developing a feeling" and needs much more specific and actionable advice. Also, why crash 10 cars before you learn how to drive when you can just follow the manual that teaches you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 11:05 AM
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A guy can change himself. Authenticity is possible once more, when you BECOME the guy women are attracted to. That's still you. Just... better you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:56 AM
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You are far more idealistic than I am. If you can't beat them, join them. It's possible. I did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:44 AM
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Why not both? Of course both. But one precedes the other. Performing out of order is counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:41 AM
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"Be yourself" usually means to not pretend something that is actually opposite of you and upkeeping the lie would lead to resentment (and a heartbreak when they realise that the relationship was built upon a lie). Yes, I have said that. Still not very helpful. Everyone is being themselves. These guys are not getting into relationships and having them fall apart because they were faking being someone they are not. These guys cannot get into a relationship at all. Yes. Most relationships are just …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:38 AM
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What if the guy cannot get a number no matter what? Why bash your head against the wall repeatedly until something works, rather than taking advice which has been confirmed works?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:35 AM
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Yeah I appreciate the sentiment, but that is not happening sister. And I also disagree that it is "forcing people to keep living their lives without authenticity". I promote authenticity always, and I promise that it WILL become authentic, after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:30 AM
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Practice makes permanent, not perfect. If you approach women incorrectly, you are getting good... at approaching women incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:29 AM
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And we need to acknowledge that you cant just "practice" your way out of autism. Because this kind of mindset is just putting a bandaid over the root issue of it. The fake it till you make it BP idea is also something that doesn't work for ND folks. I am literally autistic as fuck and completely deny your statement that you cannot practice your way out of autism. It won't be fixed in its entirety, but it will become irrelevant for all intents and purposes. And id rather see us as a society ackno…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:07 AM
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Yeah, I'd agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:06 AM
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So you are equivalating "the entire internet" to "everything compiled into one near little sidebar". You do you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:05 AM
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We can accept those two facts. Nothing will work on everybody, but there is a collection of advice which works very consistently, and is way more than enough to find love. If someone is actually a 0/10 genetic dead end... I can only offer my condolences. The overwhelming majority of men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:03 AM
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meanwhile blue pill would just say "go to the store..." To use your exact example... yes, blue pill would say "just go to the store". The blue pill would also ignore that "just going to the store" is not enough, and there are tons of unspoken assumptions behind that. You need money, you need to know how the process of collecting items in a shopping cart and paying for all of them at the register works, and you need to know how to prepare the food afterwards. Now, all of these things are "obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:01 AM
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Also getting advice from men who are successful isn’t necessarily as fool proof. Most people lack the high level of self reflection so even he might not know the root of his success. This I agree with. To use D&D terms, a sorcerer (someone naturally good with women) couldn't teach you magic (game). He was born with it, he can't explain it. A wizard (guy who was unsuccessful at first) had to study it from scratch. If you wanna learn magic, go to a wizard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:55 AM
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Your comment doesn't work as the "gotcha" you think it does. Yes, my comment, which I have stated will not contain the relevant information, is similarly broad and unspecific. Just like common dating advice. TRP itself is not. Feel free to peruse the actual red pill, it is VERY SPECIFIC and VERY ACTIONABLE. Plenty of material to keep reading all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:54 AM
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Actionable advice needs to be done within the context of "be yourself". I agree, that is the context I always promote. Sadly we are encouraging more masking usually with this mindset and that is taking a very big toll on your mental health in the long run. So even if you say RP advice is the actionable it all comes down to masking and following certain socially accepted standards. That is incredibly hard to keep up especially in a relationship. This, I disagree with, however. Not in the sense th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:52 AM
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As someone that is also heavily autistic, I feel you. I promise you that it, if you stick with the advice TRP teaches, it becomes natural and no longer a facade. If you are interested, feel free to message me for the link to a (Free) book I am currently writing on getting the relationship of your dreams. As it was written by an autist, primarily for autists, I believe it will help you out a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:49 AM
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Please elaborate at length, I love your insights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:46 AM
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The sidebar of the actual red pill sub. Can you give me examples of this specific and actionable advice that works given to men by the red pill? There is way too much to go over in a single reddit comment, but the most important stuff is that TRP heavily emphasizes improving yourself in every way, taking responsibility, becoming a guy that is sociable and fun to be around, teaches you what shit tests are and how to pass them, what push/pull is and how to do it, the concept of frame and how to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:40 AM
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But if you go with “figure out who you are” it’s much clearer what one should do. I disagree still. That is not specific or clear in the slightest. Nor is it nearly enough to meaningfully increase success. It makes no sense to try and mimic stuff that worked for others. Do you wanna keep up that charade for your whole life? "It makes no sense to try and mimic how others drive a car, do you wanna keep up that charade for your whole life?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:37 AM
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I don't think your comment very well defends the topic at hand (usefulness of "just be yourself", given you yourself admitted it is heavily open to interpretation) but I am replying for a different reason. Specifically, the autism. That is precisely why I would say TRP worked incredibly well for me. Actionable advice. Do this, which leads to that. Simple and efficient. That's also the heavy emphasis in the book I'm currently writing on how to get the relationship of your dreams - Actionable advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:35 AM
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Depends on what his problem is. Maybe he could attract a woman but he does not expose himself to enough social / dating opportunities. That certainly is an issue for some, but in my experience that is the greatest issue for guys who have at least the slightest success with women, not the ones who are "forever alone". It is broad, but yeah, obviously noone is going to write and entire book in a reddit comment. Hence why it is useless. Pointing to specific methods of "improving your social skills"…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:30 AM
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You seem to have not read my post in its entirety. Just like I said in my post, your comments it reads as if there is a pandemic of young men faking who they are for absolutely no reason, which I assure you is not the case. The issue these men have is that "being themselves" does not generate attraction in women, not that they are fakers. Of course they shouldn't be faking it, but most already are not. Hence my post of the uselessness of this kind of advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:23 AM
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Whether it is malicious or not does not affect the outcome ¯\(ツ)/¯ And I agree that you should ask the fisherman, and not the fish. And specifically, a fisherman. Not any random dude with a pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:20 AM
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join hobby groups, go to events, meet new people regularily approach women None of this is actionable advice. A guy who is incapable of attracting a woman will not be able to do so just cause he shows up places or engages in conversation with them. work on your social skills Now this is what he could be helped out by, but the issue is again that it is so broad and not actionable in the slightest. "If you're homeless just buy a house" ass advice. TRP offers specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:18 AM
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Which is why you see a lot of RP guys for instance arguing against "self reported data" and how everyone is just lying. If the self reported data is coming from everywhere across the world (as RP is global, despite americans believing they're the center of the world), you'd have to be a real schizo to believe all of those dudes are plants hired by a shadowy cabal to fire up gender wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:15 AM
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Whatever it feels like man. I sure as fuck don't reply to every single comment. I avoid the ones that are obvious bait, most are reasonably sane so I respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 12:05 AM
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I had it rip once during an insanely long sex session.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:44 PM
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3/10, that nose is ruining him. Shaving that poor attempt at hair off, trimming his eyebrows, and getting into shape would get him into 4 or 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:42 PM
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Sure you can, you can't be expected to reply to every single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:41 PM
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When you consider that like 95% of the population are braindead NPCs it makes sense. AI taking jobs? No, how about those jobs now get to do less hours for the same pay, and we protest until that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:39 PM
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RP is mainstream! God I wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:38 PM
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I hope you're a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:49 PM
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Make sure he COURTS you - no coffee dates or walks in the park until 3 months in and that should be once or twice during the entire courtship. Lmao, no. Coffee date first and foremost. Show you're worth courting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:34 PM
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One red flag I will single out, and possibly the most important one is bad relationship with family in general, but especially with her father. I cannot emphasize this one enough, if she has daddy issues fuck her for all she's worth then do the secret Joestar technique and run the fuck away. A bad relationship with her father will almost assuredly translate to a bad relationship with you. She will most likely look for the same kind of love that she had with him. If he was abusive, she will get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:33 PM
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What a complete non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:29 PM
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Money is something completely separate from yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:05 PM
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If you're asking about it in the disney way that is sold to us when we were kids: NO. Conditionally? Yes. They can love you if you're Chad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:37 AM
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I would say leaving your partner if they don’t have sex with you is very superficial and shows you don’t love them as a person. Sex is part of your person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:35 AM
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"[Gender] has a larger-than-life grip on both society and individuals, and has manipulated, influenced and pressured people for their own benefit and to the detriment of my gender" Replace gender with a certain other group and now you're on the right track.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:35 PM
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Completely agreed OP, and you can see the seething all across the comments. Ignore them fellas, keep searching until you get your young virgin. Never settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:14 PM
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My husband is obviously a beta cuck simp Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:11 PM
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Doubt she lusted after anyone in real life, she could've had them easily if she wanted to. Crushes? Yeah I dunno maybe on some actors or some shit. Even if she did, that's irrelevant. I'm the only one that ever fucked her, she's extremely "ladylike" for everyone else but is a complete slut for me. Did I mention she barely turned 21 when we met? Certainly cuts down time on even the hypothetical crushes. They exist. Don't settle until you get one yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 12:49 PM
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Most men absolutely can reach the "minimum looks threshold". It's literally just gym, correct grooming and going to a proper barber. If you're not shorter than the average woman, visibly crippled in some way, or your face is genuinely so fucked up it looks like 3 day old roadkill, getting into amazing shape will make you a 5/10 even if you started off as a 2. And being a 5/10 passes the looks threshold for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:30 AM
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If women didn't give their pussy to men before they properly vet them it would make it soooooooo much better for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:27 AM
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See, this is why I have a problem with a lot of men. They come in with the purpose of trying to have power over you. Because everything is a power struggle The problem came from women. I'm sure most dudes did not even conceive a thought similar to that in their minds until they get dumped and abused. Life forces you into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:25 AM
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“I want a 10/10 hottie who’s super sexual but virginal and has never lusted after any other man except me, she was literally asexual until I awakened her lust.” These fantasies are not realistic, they are the combination of only what one sex wants in the other, and leaves out the rest. Yes they are. I found myself a 10/10 who I have nonstop sex with, who was a virgin before me, did not have any boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:23 AM
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Why would anyone go for older women if they can go for the younger ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:45 PM
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And why is the solution red pill information, and not something else? Why is the solution something that works, and not something that doesn't? Gee, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:48 PM
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Yeah, if anything a positive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:43 PM
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"Random videos with 0 substance in them are proof".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:57 PM
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Two cringiest videos I've seen this month. Also lmao wtf is that logic? You think people post who they're fucking on reddit? Where the fuck does "anonymous posters and hidden comments" come from and how does it relate to anything lmao bro I can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:45 PM
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So you want women’s rights to be restricted for your own personal benefit? I'm pretty sure if you manage to read what I said correctly you will see that I am saying directly the opposite. As someone that knows game, the current state benefits me. I want it to benefit society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:29 PM
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Yeah that whole part about "restricting their rights" really resonates with me. Even if it will harm me directly, I want a better and more moral society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:23 PM
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Except it's very much not "basic". Human interaction is one of the most complex things imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:22 PM
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Because if you were actually able to BE Redpill, you would have never needed TRP in the first place. Every time I see this I have to wonder if it's bait. I absolutely needed TRP, being an autist, and now I can get women at will. And I am also not from the USA. Nor did most of my success with women come from "the club". So how's that for your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:19 PM
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RP accepts that you’re not going to change female nature in our current society and it’s a much more realistic goal to change yourself and your toolset to get what you want with said female nature in dating in mind. What if I've done that and I still very much want to change female nature? Like good job me, I figured out the game and how to cheese it. I think the game fucking sucks and is a bad impact on society. I don't EXPECT I will change anything, but I sure would like it to be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:16 PM
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That sounds a lot like [that one, for whatever reason forbidden, word].
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:06 PM
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10% of them. You're off by a factor of approximately 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:05 PM
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"blue pill" (read: not a manipulator) Red pill is not inherently manipulative. It, in fact, exposes the manipulation. It does happen that a not insignificant amount of guys that follow the red pill happen to manipulate, but it is not a prerequisite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:10 PM
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You're right, some of them certainly are just playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:43 PM
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Like a third of the people aren't capable of thinking hypothetically, and this sub exposes a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:24 PM
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Talking to women about it? Absolutely useless and maybe even detrimental. Absolutely detrimental unless she's autistic or something and genuinely able to separate her feelings from the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:23 PM
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Oh what the fuck has this world come to that using more than 3 sentences per reply and shoving in uncommon punctuation symbols makes most people accuse you of being AI...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:19 PM
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Pretty much what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:01 PM
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Shit tests and how to pass them. Push/pull and how to do it. The concept of frame and how to maintain it. That said, I know what you response to this will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:35 PM
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TRP is many things, but first and foremost a toolbox. You don't need to believe in any "evopsych" to follow the techniques and get great results with women. It just so happens that a lot of the people that follow the techniques also agree that the reasons why they work make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:25 PM
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What does consistent measurable progress look like? The reactions of women to me changing from consistently being "eww" or "I only see you as a friend" to consistently spreading legs for me. And is it correlation or causation? It literally doesn't matter, but it's definitely causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:07 PM
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There are so many fucking fallacies in this post it should honestly get deleted. Strawman, goomba argument... Is this ragebait?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:00 PM
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That is basically religion. Just follow the doctrine and hopefully God will reward you. What about the countless examples of guys that did all the work and didnt see any results? There is absolutely no "hoping" involved when it's consistent. If someone reads TRP and instantly believes everything, that's on them for being retarded. If someone reads TRP, goes out into the real world and sees consistent measurable progress by following its principles, that is somehow equivalent to praying according…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:56 AM
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TRP is a toolbox. Take what you want, get out, next.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:53 AM
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are you saying being yourself is BS? As in, do you think that YOU, yourself, and being YOU, is BS? No, you obviously want to be yourself. But giving it as advice to someone struggling in dating is useless. Nobody is getting filtered cause they're not "being themselves". They're filtered cause they simp, are not confident, and can't flirt. Being yourself has 0 input on initial attraction. If women said what they filter for, to you, you'd just pretend? I know what women filter for, thanks to TRP. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:13 AM
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Using the exact words he used, contradictory yes. Obviously you can't have her be a virgin while also fucking you. Using the words actually used by men in general, no. Men want a woman who's a lady in public, but a slut in bed. And that's absolutely a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:48 PM
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many want a virgin for society to see but a slut in bed And we don't pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:40 PM
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It is not hypocrisy to support societal equality and want someone traditional for your private, intimate life. Your words imply that societal equality is exclusive with being traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:39 PM
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If women actually said what they filter for, that filter would become ineffective because then men could fake it. So they give you useless BS like "just be yourself" or stuff that benefits them, so they could get the benefit of the suckers while also getting to filter out who they actually want. Someone that "naturally" exhibits the traits they are after.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:34 PM
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How is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:32 PM
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what the fuck is going on Everyone knows the answer, it's just antiseptic to point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:02 PM
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Your sons are fucked, give them growth hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:01 PM
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Below 6 feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:01 PM
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Why would someone follow people offering actionable advice that will help them solve their problems? Sheesh, I don't know. Note: Obviously there's a ton of scammers and grifters. Know what sources you're taking info from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:59 PM
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Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:57 PM
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Counting cards in blackjack makes that game favor you overall more than the house. TRP is counting cards in blackjack for women. Nobody's getting scammed if they do everything right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:52 PM
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Opting out of the game is your choice, but the game is played either way. Choosing to play it is not god awfully stupid. We want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:48 AM
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Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:26 AM
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It's not hypocrisy to want a trait in a partner that you yourself don't have. This is incomprehensible to NPC's, aka most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 12:27 PM
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Please consider my original comment as if it had said "people" rather than "women".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:57 AM
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It's this crazy concept called "no sex before marriage". More women should practice this, ideally 100% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:27 PM
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I think it would have been better if we had at least waited till date two or three. As a guy I completely disagree. I think the dude just wanted to experience it at last, and delays would have been counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:41 PM
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I have a long term ex who was a virgin….I would NOT have jumped on the first date if I had known. Why not? He waited because I thought he was the kind of guy who would judge me Straight from the horse's mouth everyone. This is exactly why I teach guys not to judge. Not because I want to moralize, but because it will help them get sex faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:22 PM
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Autists. It is a moral failure in our mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:09 PM
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Like, do you think this makes me look fat? No honey, your fat makes you look fat. Would you love me if i was a worm? Yeah, I'd make this amazing worm house, and feed you every single day. I advise you to read up on shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:09 PM
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They see us as lesser. I see them as defective in turn. Same friend. It's the truth. The world would be infinitely better off if everyone was high functioning autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:06 PM
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Sounds like someone wasn't able to master social skills well enough. Signed, turbo autist well infiltrated inside normies for years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:05 PM
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Yes, I agree with what you've said. But usually when guys say it's a straight downgrade, the context remains the same. No prior knowledge of each other, met up on a dating app or something, a guy before got to pump and dump her, this guy has to wine and dine her. In that context, would you agree that the second guy is "less than"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:52 PM
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Okay? That is a completely different situation than what I am talking about. The two of you were unsure of wtf to do. I am talking about the usual "starting from scratch" relationship. The man wants it, and the woman should also. If she doesn't, the guy is lesser than a previous one she slept with sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:36 PM
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Being a misogynist or not has nothing to do with whether she'll be attracted, because you shouldn't fucking be talking about that in the first place. I highly doubt most guys that get told "not being misogynistic" to fix their problems are going up to women IRL and screaming at them about hypergamy. No, they just suck at conversations and escalating. Telling them how to improve that would be actionable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:34 PM
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Oy vey that's antiseptic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:06 PM
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Why do you not support men listening to the red pill OP? I agree with the general premise of your post, but what's your issue with the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:27 AM
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But their not telling them that. Their giving guys some good advice to help themselves, Keep telling yourself that. "Stop being a misogynist" is not "good advice".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:26 AM
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This doesn't explain ' how ' you were helping a mans problems. Sympathizing is not a solution. If he's looking for a specific ' answer ' to satisfy his ego, then he requires a different approach. It seems like women are telling him what to think. Women are incapable of offering actionable advice. They just want support, not advice, so they assume the man is looking for it as well. Most men don't ask questions expecting to get support, but rather to get answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:25 AM
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hey can display themselves in this way, but only if their bodies are shaved and waxed into a hairless, purified, desexualised, virginal form, cleansed of the markers of the adult, sexually mature female form. Lmao, how'd you manage to turn your weird ass hair fetish into a moralizing story?Newsflash, hair is disgusting to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:07 AM
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We respond to the person in front of us, the context, and the level of safety and interest. Yeah. In a lesser way than to the previous guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:58 AM
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We're gonna have to disagree on that, dude I know IRL that fucks the most looks like Sid from Ice Age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:57 AM
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I would definitely say not. I look like a genuine fucking ogre in most photos, everyone agrees with that. I look pretty decent irl, at least the reaction of women to me seem to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:01 AM
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Big but not too big tits, big but not too big and firm ass, fit overall but no visible abs, long hair is a must, no tattoos/piercings, green eyes, cute face, Idk seems my type is "conventionally attractive" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:59 AM
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Your autism or equivalent lack of social skills absolutely can cockblock you. Looks only matter until you pass "the threshold", at which point it's personality. Barring being on the extreme ends of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:56 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:54 AM
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Sleeping with one guy early doesn’t make another guy “less than.” Oh yes it fucking does. Barring obvious reasons such as period or logistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:52 AM
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Women don't decide relationship things logically, they do it emotionally. It's not an evaluation process where she decides that, due to X thing, you are not a good partner anymore. In that moment, it really is over for her, because her feelings say so. If you manage to help her get over the tantrum, get her to feel good again, that thing will no longer matter nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:46 AM
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Have you considered that people are not supposed to live individually, and that the only thing women suffrage brought us was two parents working for the same relative pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:33 AM
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/27. The number I've seen most often thrown around was 27. Anyway, if you believe that anyone that ever said "women hit the wall at 27" meant "absolutely every single woman that hits 27 immediately becomes an old hag who nobody will look at" well then I don't even know what to say. What someone who said "women hit the wall at 27" (or whatever age) meant was "from the age of 27, for most women it is only going to be downhill from there in terms of looks, and the ones that don't end up looking the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:10 PM
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The age thing makes me so scared to get older, what if my future husband ends up cheating on me and leaving me in the dirt after years devoted to him. Make sure you vet properly. Can never know of course, but choosing an average hard working guy who genuinely seems to love you will make odds of that much lower than if you marry "the guy that makes you feel amazing".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:14 PM
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No no, they're going to demand a scientific study to back up something we all know the outcome to, despite such studies being literally impossible to enact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:13 PM
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Biologically, I'd agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:10 PM
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The 80\20 thing came from a dating app in 2014. Now we all know dating apps notoriously man outnumber women 5 to 1, so of course they always use this figure to pretend their victims whereas we also know most young men have never asked out a real women. Holy shit lmao, just say you don't understand how statistics work. All of the rants these men do are because they want a wife that pays 50/50 of bills, but does all the domestic work and looks after their 5 children without complaint. But as a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:43 AM
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It seems like men’s need for novelty, sexual variety, and attraction to much younger women makes it borderline impossible for them to stay genuinely committed to one woman and still feel satisfied. Biologically, I'd agree. But most men are not animals and can control their urges for the sake of a better society at large. What also really gets me is the claim that “80% of women want the top 20% of men.” Meanwhile, men of all ages openly admit that they’re most attracted to 18-22 women - and betch…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:42 AM
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They often tend to express emotions more outwardly than women as well. I have never seen woman scream like a crazy person and losing their shit over some dudes kicking a ball or a video game but this is not so uncommon for men. Well I have, literally last night while going back from the store. What now? Dudes losing their shit over sportsball is retarded, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:31 AM
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Impulsive, risk seeking, and aggressive? Probably. Emotional? I mean what you listed is technically emotions but I've been able to have conversations with most men I disagree with that didn't immediately evolve into a slew of logical fallacies. Can't say the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:08 AM
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It really is on me for trying to be nice. The RES counter didn't lie and my original statement is still true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:07 AM
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I don't know myself, it's not like I look at usernames often, so I have no idea what you actually said. All I know is RES tag is showing you as red and with 0 upvotes (now 1).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:00 AM
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You don't agree that women in general tend to be a lot less logical in most situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:59 AM
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Yeah I guess I could agree. As an autist I do consider "normies" as a whole defective. Women just more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:56 AM
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This is the first reasonable comment I've seen out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:55 AM
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One of the truest blue-pill things I have found to be true in dating is that "everything is a man's fault" this is backed up by divorce lawyers, who say the woman is always the one to initiate divorce. All relationships live and die on a man's actions. (sometimes it's inaction) like turning into a fat toad and slamming down Budweiser while never missing the holy NFL Sundays, but he can't be bothered to date her anymore. Is it really? I'd say it's absolutely a red-pill view. Everything is your fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:54 AM
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And still people blindly follow because it appeals to their FEELINGS! I don't think many people "blindly follow". If anyone "blindly follows" they're a retard. Many people read TRP, go out and try it out for themselves, and see their success with women explode instantly. All the science we need is literally in seeing it work IRL. We don't need "scientific studies" to prove TRP any more than we need a study to prove we need to breathe to live. Not that studies for most of TRP could ever be carrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:53 AM
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How are you going to show science to prove most of red pill? Even suggesting a case study on shit tests or whether women care about moral behavior would get you cancelled lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:50 AM
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They're lying, as they often tend to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:48 AM
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being soundly rebuked as it should be Please elaborate as to why, I will give you the very slightest doubt that you're not ACTUALLY an NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:47 AM
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MGTOW from what I've seen is mostly a bunch of guys not realizing how their failure to connect with women doesnt mean women are defective but that something is wrong with their approach to connecting to women - and spending their days obsessed with women. Both can be true at the same time. I'd absolutely call women defective, but those guys are also failing to realize how easy it is to get them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:46 AM
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You cannot pick better to find something that does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:21 PM
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They're great because most men can't get them. Not because sex with a new person is so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:17 PM
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We all know that, but that doesn't answer his question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:15 PM
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The latter is what every man since the beginning of time has had to do. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:13 PM
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That's like asking me to pick better and find a fish that drowns in water.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:03 PM
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So... guys who find women attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:05 PM
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Water during everyday life versus water in a desert scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:02 PM
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A small percentage of women are able to logically think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:00 PM
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Are you sure about that? Just wondering...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:59 PM
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I don't need to read past the title to know this was written by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:58 PM
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See that WAS my first idea but I discarded it for a simple reason: He may not have had "it" but he certainly had something that allowed him to learn "it". And then he also had whatever extra he "naturally" had, which would be maths or something similar for most dudes in that situation. The dude who naturally had other valuable things for long term relationships, who also managed to learn "it" is surely a better deal than the guy who naturally only has "it".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:54 PM
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I believe you. That doesn't mean they're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:50 PM
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Yeah that's a lot of... I don't even know what kinda fallacy that is but it sure is one. Automatic failure fallacy? Any man that masters game is going to be able to get a ton of college girls very quickly. It's not going to take until he "gets older and older". Definitely easy to catch up. until he wakes up one day to all the 18 year olds laughing at him and calling him "unc status." What exactly is the age you think this occurs at?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:21 PM
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Based and redpilled in both social and economic sense. Too many people are either one or the other. If someone's socially aware (maybe women aren't angels and we shouldn't import a million immigrants into our country) they are almost as a rule a corpo bootlicker. And then we've got the other side that realizes billionaires are scum and should be taxed properly but is all like "no problem mr muhammad please come over, you and a million others".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:17 PM
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I don't think your answer includes the consideration of "as long as the older man got to fuck her for a while, he doesn't care what happens with her, whether she leaves or anything". He got to live out his fantasy. Now he can move on with his life in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:13 PM
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Or you developed a spine and took more of a dgaf attitude, OOOOR... I know exactly what I did much better than you and still assure you that, while "developing a spine and giving an idgaf attitude" is part of it, it is not nearly as simple as that. You are simplifying it way too much, claiming that 25% of what I did is enough to get the results I got. It's not that what you're saying is wrong, just incomplete.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:43 PM
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My beard very much disagrees with that statement. I do not hide my age, they knew full well how old I was. What exactly do you think I meant by "pushing it" lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:39 PM
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Lurking around campus is not what you should do, no. They generally date men from their university. This, however, makes me laugh. I've had multiple situations in the past year or so of 16-17 year olds being interested in me. And not "yeah she was totally interested in me bro", genuinely pushed it as far as I could without actually hooking up with them just to see if they understand wtf they're doing. I'm 27. If high schoolers are interested then college girls sure as hell are. Just gotta meet t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:23 PM
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I don't agree the desire for charity superseding values of safety and women's empowerment is a sign women cannot represent their best interests. It's a sign they can sacrifice them for a greater value. Yes, the greater value of more crime, sexual assaults, yada yada.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:19 PM
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How did you manage to blame men for women being dumb lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:41 PM
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What try lmao? Be more coherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:39 PM
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So to some things up, I would say that blue-pilled thinking can be characterized as whatever is flattering/favorable to women, regardless of whether it will help a man attract women. By contrast, red-pilled thinking can be characterized as whatever will help a man attract women, regardless of whether it is flattering/favorable to women. Damn. I think you solved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:39 PM
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Absolutely not lmao. What attracts women is completely illogical. "Conversation skills" in general don't cut it. Specific conversational skills which TRP teaches? That's what it's about. If they can't understand that then they're beyond help already. Another bullshit line. I could not understand the slightest bit of why women are the way they are and could never in a million years figure out on my own what attracts them. In comes TRP and I turn from Billy Beta that can only get friendzoned into …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:32 PM
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Flair checks out lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:30 PM
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Okay brother I was with you until the part where you imply women need to be part of foreign country psyops to lie to men's faces. Or the part where you imply this is solely an american problem, not a worldwide one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:54 PM
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Now where'd I say Billy was ugly? He could be a perfectly average guy who is also very nice. But he's also shy, submissive, soft-spoken, unable to flirt and many other things we know women dislike. Him being nice and average looking will not let him get an average girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:28 PM
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Because you will never be 18 years old and in that scene again. So now, when you're dating women who are older and have moved past that phase in their life, Now why the fuck would you do that lmao. New college girls show up every year, go get them tiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:24 PM
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However, if this is true, is it that bad for guys to throw in the towel, and realize they are being chosen for commitment rather than raw physical attraction? Stopped reading here, yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:21 PM
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If enforced monogamy worked so well, women wouldn't have tossed it out. Because women are very rational, never fall for propaganda, and never do something that is against their best interest for reasons they can't conceive? Like when they are importing millions of migrants who stand for everything opposite to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:20 PM
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Maybe it was the way you said it. The way you say anything does not have any impact on the validity of the statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:19 PM
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blue pill means you belive all that bonkers stuff like "just be nice" It's not really bonkers in the sense that it's incorrect. Women like it when a guy is nice to them (disregarding any other behaviors that being nice vs being an asshole includes). It just so happens that "being nice" has nothing to do with attracting a woman, and the blue pillers that repeat it are either malicious or very naive. Obviously the "bad boy with a heart of gold that's nice to you" is the ideal, but if choosing betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:15 PM
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It's an ideology that was born out of men that were "chads" explaining how they operated to unattractive and borderline autistic men. That's the RP in a nutshell. Explaining how dating dynamics work for autistic men because those men are the ones that need to understand it the most and don't have the resources outside of RP to learn so. And god fucking bless RP and those men for that. I am autistic as fuck, would literally never in a million years figure any of this out "naturally". Thanks to TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:20 AM
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What is the part you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:12 AM
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Intelligence, assuming not on the extreme low end, is completely irrelevant for most guys when it comes to partner choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:10 AM
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If forced to choose between the two, definitely the 30 year old. Don't settle though. Find yourself a 21 year old traditional virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:09 AM
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Plenty of average looking and below average looking dudes happily paired with partners Because you can totally tell who is "happily paired" by looking at a couple in walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:07 AM
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You cannot choose to "not believe in them" when you literally see them happening constantly before your eyes. You shit test as well, whether you're aware of it or not. Everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:57 PM
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It may not be "forbidden" in the sense that it's forbidden by law, but it's very much forbidden in the sense that dare you say it, you're immediately labeled a sexist and silenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:51 PM
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I am not even going to respond to the comparison to incels because one look at which groups are recognized as domestic terrorists will shut that up quick. Proving him correct in one sentence lmao. Google "appeal to authority" logical fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:45 PM
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“Tests” and “frame” Anyone that denies shit tests exist, or the concept of frame, is not to be taken seriously. They are either trolling, or deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:43 PM
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Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:42 PM
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Truth isn't hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:41 PM
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"this knowledge has been around for centuries" Well that's a very dishonest way of putting it. It's more like: "This knowledge has been around for centuries, but most people implicitly know it, and talking about it is forbidden. Instead, we say the exact opposite publicly." See how that might cause a little bit of an issue for the "3% of people that didn't get it".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:39 PM
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Oh they're often funny. The keyword you're missing is intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:28 PM
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Lmao, here with the "all of these men have terrible profiles and that's the reason" meme. Should probably make a bingo card.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:26 PM
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If prime Brad Pitt showed up at your door, you'd be singing a different tune real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:25 PM
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Call me whatever you want, can't call me a liar though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:18 PM
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Oy vey that's antiseptic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:14 PM
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I guess I cannot KNOW but I am reasonably sure enough in all cases I'd put all my life savings on the bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:12 PM
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Expecting women to think about the long-term consequences of their actions is like expecting a pigeon to play chess with you. Good job OP, you figured out why monogamy exists. Feel free to go and enjoy a world without one for whole of... maybe 3 days before the bottom of the barrel men rise up. No matter how chaddy a chad is, he's not gonna win a 1v10.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:16 PM
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or can you skip those topics in the text book? Yes. THE RED PILL IS A TOOLBOX. This sentence was repeated over and over AND OVER every single day in the red pill that existed when I found it in 2017. So if you don't wanna listen to any part of it, you are free to just take the ones that you do, and go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:09 PM
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Your claim seems to be "you just live in a shitty environment", but you're missing the fact it's not JUST IRL. We are talking about TRP, so obviously the guys witnessed it both IRL AND from many other men sharing the same story across the globe. If you found many women sharing the same stories across the globe about how "the mother is always replaceable" and that it's normal for 18 year olds to pump and dump 12 year olds, I wouldn't hold any misandrist takes against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:53 PM
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men fall for a ideology that's peddles solid advice that is good for all of us plus misogynistic pseudoscience about the "psychology of women" that portrays us vixens that will hop to the next man at any moment if our man is not this perfect image of what the red pill considers "real masculinity." If someone just "falls for the ideology", blindly believing something, that's on them. Most red pillers witnessed the horrific stuff happening IRL before becoming firmly redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:09 PM
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I wonder if those women can "notice patterns" when it comes to certain aspects other than gender. Like I don't know... height... no that can't be right. Maybe love of fried chicken? Can we notice patterns between crime and one's propensity towards fried chicken? That sounds interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:41 PM
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You say trolls. I say women. That's just the way they are. That said "don't engage an argument with a woman" is indeed good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:22 PM
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You can't get a definition you and other women wouldn't call sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:21 PM
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In most places online and IRL if you don't have a good male role model.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:23 PM
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Today there's been a hell of a lot of high quality comments/posts. A rare day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:20 PM
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Youthfulness is not nearly as valued in men as in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:41 AM
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Well good thing he used HIS opinion to give HIS answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:40 AM
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Why not a low maintenance one with someone that's hot? Don't settle. If forced to pick between the two options you've presented, I'll go with the former for "non-serious" and the latter for "LTR/Marriage".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:39 AM
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Attraction can't be negotiated. Agreed. If you have to work on it you are not the one for each other. Not agreed. These 2 are not incompatible. Work on yourself and your social skills to make the attraction happen. You're not negotiating shit, you're creating attraction out of thin air using stuff you've learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:36 AM
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I am indeed asking about the "evopsych screed" cause I could give you answers to the other questions you stated but I'm blanking on the exact one I'm asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:32 AM
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Women want a man who "just gets it". The idea of getting a counterfeit chad is seen as insulting and a ruse that makes it harder to get one that just gets it. I know. My question is WHY? What does it change if he somehow "naturally" got it, versus having to learn it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:24 AM
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There are 42% more male virgins than female virgins. If you're a virgin it's much more likely you're a man than you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:53 AM
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I'm not sure arguing in good faith is what OP is doing. Look at the rest of the comments. Best case scenario it is a severe lack of reading comprehension. But arguing in bad faith is much more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:50 AM
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I don't think reading comprehension is her strongest suit. You described it perfectly as "personality makeup". Women are horrified of us doing the same thing to them as they do to us when the 7/10 turns into a 4/10 the morning after, once the makeup is off. Always take her to the pool early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:43 AM
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So... a source was asked for there are more virgin men than women. And your source says this. Ten percent of young men and 7 percent of women say they are still virgins." How exactly is 10 not more than 7?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:36 AM
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I have no idea what can be "misused" from the conclusion of divorce rate doubling (or worse, cba to look up actual numbers now) when going from 0 -> 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:32 AM
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I disagree that anyone who needs to read a book to learn how to interact with women can actually be desirable in the first place. You either groked it intuitively or you didn't. Anything else is just pretending to be someone you're not, and eventually the mask will drop. Unless you're a genuine sociopath or narc, no one can successfully maintain a completely false personality 24/7/365 What a crock of shit lmao. No, nobody can maintain a completely false personality 24/7/365 that is true, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:30 AM
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Women want the finished product, but hate the men that are on the journey. The mere THOUGHT of their man maybe not having been born as amazing as he is disgusts them. Why? I'm not sure and would like to know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:27 AM
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Making everyone unable to pair bond with their partner is not bad? I'd advise you to look at n count vs divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:25 AM
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If you remove the bias red pill is just common sense. It's hard to remove the bias when you've been bombarded by it since the day you were born from all sides. A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth. Men without a good role model growing up are the ones that NEED redpill the most because they're genuinely going mental over how come women say they want X and not Y, they do their absolute best to be X and not Y, and never get any sort of results, while the guys doing Y keep succeeding. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:24 AM
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Holy based. Hilarious that you're downvoted. Perfect answer to everything OP said. tl;dr TRP teaches men who grew up without good role models that women aren't disney princesses that value niceness. Your moral values have 0, zilch, nada to do with whether a woman will be attracted. Ideally you'd want to be a good person AS WELL as being good at attracting women, but if we put two men, one being a godawful person that knows game versus billy beta who is incredibly kind and organize a show where w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:39 AM
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Sex isn’t bad. The entire society being very promiscuous and encouraged to be so is very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:34 AM
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Anyone with half a brain KNOWS it won't work. To see specific instructions which work, you can check out the post I made. That's assuming you're trying to argue in good faith, which I doubt, but here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qpb3nq/blue_pillers_do_you_disagree_with_any_of_this/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:14 AM
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Attractive and good but unable to spark "that something" in women is still not enough, unless legitimately 10/10 attractive. Social skills and knowing what women *actually want is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:14 AM
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Therapy doesn't work for anyone when it comes to things that aren't traumas and shit. Certainly not with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:05 PM
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"Kill yourself" could also be actionable advice. It's telling you what to do. I'm pretty sure most guys recognize that killing themselves won't help them, and neither will memes such as therapy or support groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:10 PM
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when we beg men to go to therapy, join a support group These are literally the opposite of actionable advice, and not only that, they are counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:19 PM
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"No hymen no diamond" just rhymes better than "fucked someone else no diamond". No need to be pedantic, you know what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:12 PM
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Treating her like trash is obviously preferable (to the man) than treating her "like a human" (at least in the way you meant), but the real answer is not either one of those. If this is a LTR, why would you want to treat someone you are potentially going to be the rest of your life with like trash? Treat her with love and kindness but never simp, never bend over, never give in to unreasonable demands, don't show weakness, and don't expect reliability or accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure "no hymen no diamond" is clear enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:40 AM
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Just cause both genders do it doesn't mean one doesn't do it much more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:20 PM
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If it's a famous singer/actor/whatever hollywood person it's genuinely at least 95% it's an NPC.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:23 PM
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If we haven’t had an “exclusive” talk then I was never assuming we were exclusive yet. I'm so fucking glad I live in a country where exclusivity does not need to be "talked about" and is an unspoken assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:21 PM
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insane woman That's a pleonasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:29 PM
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Like damn. Imagine women doing that to men. Every 10 days just start an argument for no reason just to keep him interested Yeah... imagine that... that would never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:52 PM
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Long term, good is a requirement for most women. Yet will not in any way let you get the woman. Being good does you no good if you can't make it to the dating stage. Which is what happens to a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:50 PM
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Honestly, sounds great. I wish you luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:02 PM
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Well you said "not fully" so I can assume you're agreed with MOST of it and I'd say that counts you as redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:02 PM
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Well I'd say my girl is a genuine 10/10 as she's the hottest girl I know IRL. I am her first boyfriend and we fuck every single day. Came 29 times in 24 hours once. And I'm not a virgin no. I can already see the response but no, it's not hypocritical, you are for forcing standards on someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:00 PM
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Serve him? The fuck? You're married to him, not his fucking servant, for starters. And well yeah, gotta be attracted to him, that's a given. What's your point? Nobody said it was gonna be easy to find a good + attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:04 PM
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There's a big difference between it naturally dropping off due to age and it dropping off due to losing attraction. I'm pretty sure very few of those guys are speaking about the former, rather than the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:03 PM
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This is the delusional aspect of the red pill and part of why I'm not fully subscribed to it. The red pill is not a monolith, it's a toolbox. Take what you agree with, dump the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:02 PM
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blind to the fact that hymens have zero impact on the success and happiness of a marriage This one right here never read studies comparing n count to marriage success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:34 PM
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Are you aware one is able to vet potential men and even "shop around" without actually taking a dick? I support relationship experience. That's not equivalent to sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:33 PM
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You've got like 10 years from when you're 18. Where's the "hurry"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:19 PM
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Men apparently want a virgin who acts like a porn star with them only. Apparently? I'm pretty sure all of us have been saying that. I'm sorry fellas, if she has a high libido and enjoys being adventurous in the bedroom she's probably not a virgin. Yeah, so find the ones that are and don't settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:13 PM
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Only bluepillers follow the "logic" of "man is no longer as attracted to his wife as he was before, man will instantly abandon wife and kids to fuck others". Because apparently as a man "he’s attracted to women below 25", also why he got a family with her. This sentence especially is telling lmao. Hope you're a troll. You cannot comprehend a reason to remain in a relationship other than physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:12 PM
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Try reading the third word in my comment again. Don't marry a deadbeat. "hOw dO i KnOw" You can never know but you can take your sweet time to vet properly and lower your odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:08 PM
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Fitness subreddits? fashion subreddits? Most dudes that actually work on themselves don't have issues in this part. Speaking skills is a lot harder. And here's the problem. I know you can practice. I have. The issue is that you won't find any relevant "social skills" guide for hooking up with women in most places, as you'll be "sexist". Best you can hope for is becoming a social person in general, but many dudes are lives of the party but a mess when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:45 PM
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If you don't care about marriage or kids, go ahead and have your "fun". Just hope you don't regret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:43 PM
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That's a lot of mental gymanstics to justify how many men dicked down your wife. I don't need to hope, I know I am the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:13 PM
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And also, are you saying that no man will ever wait a long time? I'm gonna need you to clarify what the f you mean by this cause I genuinely have no idea what you said or what you are implying I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:12 PM
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Find a good man before you're 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:00 PM
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You vet by not fucking/marrying immediately. Get to know the other person for a LOOOONG while.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:00 PM
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how would you vet a potential partner with a 100% success rate => you can never be sure A little bit of reading comprehension is the bare minimum you can do. You can be sure Billy Beta who's enamored with you will have lower odds of doing it than Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:32 PM
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Any ones being chosen are chosen in spite of being whores. Obviously the "Famous" part edges out the "slut" part. The men still want them and it ain’t low quality either like you’d want to believe. Oh it absolutely is. Low quality in the sense that women determine. You think most guys that can get women at will are gonna marry a slut? But in the sense that most men see it, yeah, average man is gonna marry a slut and be happy cause that fucker doesn't know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:02 PM
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What's he supposed to do, whip himself every time he looks at a hot chick? Not doing anything behind his wife's back is holding himself accountable. Tell me this was bait. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:59 PM
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Nobody marrying a slut is living his best life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:50 PM
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Fucking psychopathic comment. I mean it's true, but I couldn't have phrased it more repellantly mysef.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:48 PM
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That poor fucker. My heart goes out to him. No hymen, no diamond.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:39 PM
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I mean... kinda is? But you can't change it. Comes with age. You'll be less attractive to all men, not just your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:38 PM
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Men who care about actual relationships will consider more than youth when it comes to attraction. This is incomprehensible to most enraged women or bluepillers in general here. In their minds, no man will behave in any way other than what his dick says. Sure, your husband will probably find a hot 20 year old more attractive than his 50 year old wife, but he'll still love her, take care of her, and not cheat on her if he has any sense of decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:23 PM
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Feel free to do that if you want. Valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:20 PM
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If your dude can't, doesn't mean no dude can. It's ridiculous that you think there cannot exist a subsection of men who are perfectly capable of attracting and fucking 20 year olds in theory, but simply won't do it out of a sense of duty for his family or love for his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:19 PM
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He literally cannot affect what he finds attractive. The only thing he can affect is whether he acts on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:18 PM
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If it's inevitable that the "good man" you're talking about will only be less and less attracted to us - and quickly, literally a matter of a few years... then all around it's a shitty deal You literally can't do anything about that though. That's just nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:17 PM
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Generally speaking if someone is long term incel, there is a correlative reason for it. Yes there is, and it's that women are illogical. The things they find attractive mostly have to do with emotions. There's nothing wrong with most "undateable guys" they're just extremely logical and therefore "boring" for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:15 PM
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But, as a man, if you also have boring personality and no sense of humor, you don't have positive masculinity, you have certain mental issue, you struggle with money, you don't have many friends or hobbies, etc. Then it's perfectly reasonable to say that you are simply undateable. No need to sugarcoat things. Or you can stop whining about it and work on those things. You absolutely can learn how to become a fun and sociable person who is masculine. Get a good job, get your shit in order. The dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:14 PM
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Good men usually follow these concept called "duty", "accountability", "honor" and similar stuff. Even if they end up lusting after the 20 year old when you're 50, it's irrelevant. You can't do anything about that. It's just nature. But if you vet properly your man will not mess around with them. He will love you and be happy with you. But I'm aware that "vetting properly" and terms such as accountability are completely unknown to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:11 PM
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Vet better. Don't get with a dude that'll do something like that. Of course, you can never be sure, but you can be pretty sure Chad Thundercock is more likely to do something like that than an honest hard-working man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:05 PM
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Find a good man and start a proper family before your time is up. Don't get dicked down by every Tom, Dick, and Harry and then cry about "where have all the good men gone".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:03 PM
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Holy bait but I'll bite. Can’t y’all learn by OBSERVING?? Absolutely not. Can't "y'all" just know math by observing? Why do so many of you need it spoonfed? I honestly don't know how some of "y'all" function as regular people. Different brains, different outcomes. Coffee emoji.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:55 PM
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Maybe you don't, but absolutely a ton of people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:50 PM
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Again, none of that is relevant to attraction. Aren't YOU guys the side that always says "nobody owes you anything for being nice"? I preach "being a decent human being" but I'm also not naive (or maybe just downright cruel in some cases) enough to imply that that's all it takes. Again, furthest that advice gets you is the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:41 PM
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That's just an example, don't grab on to it so hard. The point is the same - unnecessary failure. I agree with the second part of your comment, and I preach that. But we can say "don't let the success of your evening depend on whether you hook up" AND we can also give actionable advice. One does not exclude the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:21 PM
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Driving a car without anyone teaching you is a dumb idea. Practice makes permanent, not perfect. "Going out and talking to women" without any advice will get you good at approaching women badly. You can absolutely teach most of the relevant stuff without "being physically present in the room" with someone. I do in the book I'm currently writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:10 PM
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This is some horseshit. Yes, there are dudes like that. The majority of dudes just want ACTIONABLE advice, not some "just be yourself" bullshit that can mean whatever. Tell them specific step by step instructions and they'll change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:31 AM
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Woman larping as man. Treating women like actual humans, while ideally something you would do, will not get you women as a partner alone. You'll be friendzoned. About half of the "normie" advice bluepillers repeat is similar to this. Yeah, you should "just be yourself" in the sense that you don't fake who you are, but the issue is just. Half advice bluepillers/women give is absolute horseshit and the other is stuff that will help dudes that can already get relationships make those relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:29 AM
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I disagree. I managed to find plenty of 20+ virgins. My current girl was a virgin at 21, been with several others (average looking) 24 and similar ages virgins, and I know a 28 year old virgin... but she's a genuine 1/10 so that's the reason. I'm not in the US though so idk you may be right. Or you just need to sniff them out as I do. My friend says I have a bloodhound's nose for virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:10 AM
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OP, are you this Owen Cook guy? Cause there sure is a lot of shilling for him.
/r/seduction02/02/26 11:13 PM
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Oh, everyone knows it's true. Blue pillers just like lying. And, again, you CAN work past it. I know I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:11 PM
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A man is neurodivergent: He can forget about dating. A man is shy and has no social skills: Dating is nonexistent. A man is neurodivergent. He uses his different brain to autistically gobble up info to essentially learn how to socialize. Man can now have a lot of success with dating. Signed, autistic as fuck man that did exactly that. Also, what's the point of your post? That life is unfair and women have a lot of advantages? Yeah maybe that's a hot take in uh... blue pill land? But here everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:08 PM
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Imagine typing this out in 2026 and not only being unironic but thinking it makes you cool. I can accept people who just gobbled up propaganda until like... '24? I still think badly of their cognitive abilities, but hey, people don't like to stick out from the crowd. But in 2026? You're gonna find a lot of certain people on the Epstein list, but very few, if any, Nazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:02 PM
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I do plan to make an e-book, but it will not be $10, but rather free. I once sucked a lot with women and spent a ton of time finding all this (and more) stuff out. I want to help men who are now in the position I once was. Thanks for the kind words!
/r/seduction02/02/26 08:54 PM
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I elaborate on shit tests, cold reading, push/pull, and more in the actual book. You can find the link in the other comment. What you're after is lesson #10 (push/pull, shit tests, comfort tests).
/r/seduction02/02/26 08:37 PM
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Hi there, definitely will not be for profit. Just want to help men that are like I once was. It's definitely formatted like a book... in the actual book. This is the tl;dr version. Thanks for your input!
/r/seduction02/02/26 08:36 PM
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Wtf kinda question is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:32 PM
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Projecting that I support manipulation just cause you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:25 PM
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Now where'd I say I support that behavior? Projecting a bit, aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:09 PM
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I didn't say "TRP says money or status don't matter". I'm just saying that "money and status" is 10% of what TRP actually has to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:55 AM
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I'm sure they are. They didn't do that for no reason, they are doing it to try to maintain attraction. Which is also a part of the reason why women cause drama. But guys have to do it consciously because they want to avoid prior bad experiences, for women it's automatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:55 AM
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Sure, but those are not related to the relationship. A guy won't just go "I'm bored let's make my girlfriend mad".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:43 AM
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Red pill is very much not defined either. "Red pill is a toolbox".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:43 AM
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And redpill doesn’t have better proof. Redpill cannot have "proof" because you'd be cancelled for even suggesting an "alpha fucks beta bucks" case study. But if so so SOOOOO many people have brought up similar experiences, I'd still consider that proof myself, even if it's not "scientific".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:04 AM
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So you should be able to provide ways in which you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:02 AM
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No, it's not the human condition that does that. It's the awful awful condition known as "being a woman". You won't hear a guy saying he "creates drama for no reason sometimes" like women do. Or that he's "bored without drama".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:57 AM
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NGL we should add age to our flairs. Would help out a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:55 AM
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Nah, cardio bunnies >>>>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:52 AM
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Oh you poor bastard... at least you learned eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:49 AM
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They're hot. The existence of straight men is proof being gay is not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:48 AM
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Doesn't depend on anything. No hymen, no diamond. If I'm not planning anything serious with the woman, then n count is irrelevant if I don't get herpes from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:44 AM
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You have no idea wtf the red pill is if you think it's "making up for a lack of sexual attraction with money or status".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:43 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:42 AM
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I was with a 24 year old average looking virgin, guaranteed. At what point does it become "impossible" according to you? I also happen to KNOW a 28 year old virgin woman, but she's a genuine 1/10 so that's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:41 AM
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You're not limited to 30 year olds just cause you're 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:40 AM
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May wanna check the comments more carefully then because half of "red pill" dudes are literally just "black pill" dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:39 AM
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It's a shame that using proper formatting and a hyphen today makes everyone think "AI Slop" :(
/r/seduction02/02/26 09:48 AM
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Not sure you need to write that book, these are all obvious and none goes deep. => The following will be some of the advice I share in that book (each piece of advice not elaborated on specifically here because of Reddit post limits) Of course I go deeper in the book itself. The push/pull section, for example, is 3 sentences here, but is as long as this post itself in the book. Lot of your bullet points are also not necessary btw. => And of course, before anyone says it, almost nothing here will…
/r/seduction01/02/26 10:32 PM
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There's a ton of stories but I'm not sure which ones count as "worth mentioning".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:25 PM
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Yeah that does tend to be the biggest hang-up for a lot otherwise "normal" guys. If you're only "shooting your shot" with 3 girls a year, it's probable you won't get any action that year. Unfortunately I don't think anyone could tell you this for sure as nobody knows your exact situation. Recommending stuff you just don't have access to won't help you. Me, personally, I just got friendly with as many people as possible, and met new women through them. Gym was a godsend for me personally. Just go…
/r/seduction01/02/26 10:22 PM
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do you get satisfaction out of such shallow(I assume) relationships? You would assume wrong. They are now better than ever. What do you want to know specifically? I said what caused it, doing what I was told I should do and getting 0 pussy for it. How did it go? Fucking great, feel like I can finally understand wtf women want now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:44 PM
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Who says it doesn't? Reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:19 PM
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Don't fake who you are, your opinions, your core values. Be authentic with those. Fake confidence UNTIL you get real confidence and no longer have to fake it.
/r/seduction01/02/26 04:52 PM
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Say hi to Jamal for me then. It's absolutely relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:58 PM
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Thank you for the kind words, glad to help!
/r/seduction01/02/26 02:21 PM
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Glad to hear it! Edit: several people have messaged me for the link for the book, here it is. Contains all of this stuff explain in-depth and more. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1GyR5vwLjd9ZA31sZafI4hx7NRS3g9YpU
/r/seduction01/02/26 11:36 AM
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Now we're getting in a bit of a grey area. Was "sleeping with a guy day one" a one-off event she found she didn't enjoy? Or was it a consistent string of guys in her earlier years?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:24 AM
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How are you "more secure yourself" if you are "figuring out if she's really into you"? You'd be secure if you were like "yeah good fucking luck finding anyone better than me, cause I'm the man".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:46 AM
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You don't understand how the man wanting it day 1, not getting it day 1 but rather day 3, when someone else got it day 1 is worse treatment? Again, not solely related to sex, that's just the most obvious and easy example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:45 AM
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I'm pretty sure we can objectively chart that fucking someone day 3 versus day 1 is worse, as we can be pretty sure that the relevant circumstances are the same (man wanting to do it day 1, pretty safe bet, and no logistical problems which there shouldn't be if you planned a date for that day). It’s ridiculous to think that you can exactly replicate a different relationship with a different person. It is, yes. Good thing I didn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:39 AM
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Genuine honest answer, nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:36 AM
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Yes, but also don't forget "no hymen no diamond".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:35 AM
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I mean you pretty much said it, but hey, just so it's "besides sleeping with him on the first date" we can instead expand that into: Don't treat him worse in any way than "Chad". So yes, if Chad clapped those cheeks day 1, "current partner" also gets to do that. It's not limited to sex, it's just that that's what the man will focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:29 AM
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I'm not saying being depressed makes you a bad person, or that you don't deserve love. OP literally says this, how does he normalize excluding people on the basis of health related vulnerability? It definitely seems to me like the post is about partner preference, which don't blue pillers say is valid for absolutely any reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:25 AM
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It's not, people are just whiny bitches who confuse a hard period in their life with genuine medical depression. If more than 15% of people were actually clinically depressed this world would go to shit a hell of a lot faster than it already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:14 AM
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That's not stating a preference. That's a statement of fact. Do you disagree that what op said "is a fact"? I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out people with mental health issues are much more likely to be a partner who may have unhealthy behavior in a relationship. I agree with OP but you evidently do not. So rather than saying he's "a piece of shit" you could try to... you know... argue for why he's not correct. That's what the "debate" flair is about. Aren't you the guy who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:11 AM
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That would be true whether she dated 5 guys or 1 guy over 10 years. It would, yeah. I'd argue there's higher odds of aging worse if you swap partners often as that could correlate with other bad decisions but f it. See how your analogy still doesn't work? But that's not my analogy. I was just responding to your irrelevant sentence of taking the analogy literally (as if I said that women are exactly like cars) with my own. If we go back to my actual analogy (the comment I posted first), I don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:34 PM
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Hi OP, I go into something that explains this very in-depth in the book I am currently writing. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1GyR5vwLjd9ZA31sZafI4hx7NRS3g9YpU The specific discussion is in lesson #2 but tl;dr is competence signals good genes and ability to take care of them. That's what women biologically look for in a guy. And no, no matter how much feminists want to pretend it isn't so, biological urges absolutely have a huge impact on dating. That's also the reason attraction CA…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:27 PM
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If you're a man, absolutely. Don't fucking mention it. If you're a woman, it could be a green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:24 PM
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Women wear and have reduced performance (hotness) with age. I did not realize an analogy has to be an exact 1:1 descriptor to get the point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:14 PM
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You don't owe anyone anything, why does it make you a "complete fucking piece of shit" that you don't want to be with someone that's depressed? You can not want to be with someone for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:11 PM
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Being a woman should probably be classified as a mental health issue. But a non bpd, non depressed/anxious/whatever woman does come up every now and again yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:09 PM
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Why would driving 5 cars over 10 years, swapping as soon as some minor thing breaks, make you appreciate the next car less, rather than driving one for 10 years and taking care of it through thick and thin?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:08 PM
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I did yes. Statistically, she's lying. Women tend to do that to appear to have the moral high ground. Alternatively, she could be saying the truth. Changes nothing. Very much a minority, don't risk it as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:06 PM
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I don't need any proof for multiple reasons (easily faked being the most obvious, messages not being an indicator of anything, the girl that cheated on me after 2 years kept sending I love yous until the end, and many more reasons), but the biggest one is that I don't particularly care whether you're not self aware about this, or are actually a rare example of such a woman to whom this would not apply to. As I said several times, nothing holds true for 100% of women, and this does not either. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:15 AM
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People need to stop whining and fix their problems instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:11 AM
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Well, taking your word for it, all I can say is you survived playing Russian Roulette with 5/6 bullets in the chamber and are implying other guys should try the same. I'm saying treat the gun as if it's always fully loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:47 PM
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reason, self sacrifice, self reliance, self control, self awareness, self improvement, accountability, responsibility, (actual) competence and skepticism. Lmao good fucking luck finding a woman with even 1 of those, let alone several. Accountability is their kryptonite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:31 PM
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I feel like "What's so wrong with venting?" It accomplishes nothing, fix the problem instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:28 PM
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Being married is not any indicator of that marriage being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:22 PM
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Being married is not an indication of anything, tons of "married for 50 years" people were in godawful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:19 PM
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But is this hypothetical man making it clear that a relationship is the goal? Or is he too scared to be forward and befriends her instead. What you've described is what usually occurs. And that's why telling them to "try to be friends first" is retarded, that's literally all they know how to do. It's not the reason for their failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:18 PM
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You're kinda proving my point about women's capabilities by 75% of your comment being made completely redundant by the last 25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:16 PM
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Can you prove you didn't? I said it varies in how it will result, not all will leave, and sure there's a small contingent of women for whom it would not occur, no matter how instinctive, because nothing is true for 100% of people. But if you're a man, don't fucking risk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:14 PM
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But of course SOME women are different. That's a given, nothing is true for 100% of people. Do you really want to test it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:12 PM
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Holy cliche blue pill woman sentence. The issue is never "these guys didn't know how to be friends first", those guys' main issue IS that they can only be friends, and never get seen as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:15 PM
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You think you do or you are lying to appear moral. If any man reads the comment above please do not believe it. I fell for that bullshit twice in my life in LTR's after being "well yeah of course most women react like that but THIS ONE is different". Guess what? They weren't. Cause that shit is instinctive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:11 PM
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Why do you put words in my mouth? Also, you're implying that the woman is "this fucking stupid and useless", but that's like saying a dog is "this fucking stupid and useless" cause it can't talk. All women are like this, so if this was the deal breaker for me, I'd be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:46 PM
1

Okay, elucidate me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:44 PM
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I'm sure you gals do all kinds of crazy shit we don't even notice but it's as simple as have nice hair, clean face, fit body.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:28 PM
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I'm trying to help men find love. I've sadly realized most here just don't want to put in any effort. I can't say much about blackpill because yeah they do seem to be a bunch of whiners but "red pill" was men bonding to do the exact opposite of what you say, and the exact thing I am saying: To find solutions to problems (lack of success with dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure they do? I know what attracted me to every girl I fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:24 PM
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Aaand we're going in circles now. Wanna bond? Bond over good stuff. Got problems? Solve them and again bond over good stuff. Bitching over a problem may make you feel like you're bonding as a woman, but it's at best neutral and at worst doing the exact opposite to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:13 PM
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You're right, it isn't. So why make it more shitty by complaining about a problem you could easily solve? No man complaining about this is mad that his girlfriend has a genuine problem, it's always some dumb easily solvable bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:56 PM
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Do you not understand hypotheticals? Do you think there's an actual woman that literally just made the above situation and I came to complain about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:38 PM
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I meant that in the literal way, aka their own feces. As in, nothing you say will hold true for everyone, but you can make some claims and be correct in like 95% of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:36 PM
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I'm aware they do. I'm also saying it's illogical and I hate that it is the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:35 PM
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Again, why not bond over stuff we enjoy rather than shit that sucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:24 PM
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I’m kinda curious why you think she’s too stupid to figure out your simple 5 minute fix that would just fix everything. Because most guys would not do something so illogical as bitch and moan about a problem rather than fixing it. Fixing it = no problem, everyone can proceed to be happy Talking about it = problem still exists, you're sad about it, and now you're transferring your sadness over to me. I just kinda can’t wrap my head around thinking “ugh, I could solve this issue in just 5 minutes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:56 PM
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And imagine the reaction if you said something about their small tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:54 PM
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I'm sure there's women that get turned on by guys eating their own shit, doesn't mean I'd recommend the average guy do so. Been burned myself by it twice by girls "that are totally different this time". Foolish of me. Plenty of other men IRL have confirmed similar experiences. And let's not even talk about how many such instances appear on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:40 PM
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All true. No matter how much they SAY they want emotional openness, if you cry in front of her, she'll lose attraction that same instant (the exact amount of attraction lost and whether she ends up cheating/leaving you varies heavily based on the woman, but some attraction is lost all the same). It's like seeing your father cry. That's why I teach dudes to just share positive emotions and the occasional "low-to-mid" tier negative ones (like how much something sucks at work or what an asshole tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:29 PM
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This is a major one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg Why do women insist on wallowing on negative feelings? Let's go fix that shit and then we can relax and be happy and positive rather than wallow in pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:46 PM
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Yes. I wouldn't bitch at her about something I can handle myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:44 PM
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Please explain what the fuck your comment means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:21 PM
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Doesn't matter. His content doesn't have anything to do with "the manosphere" specifically, it will just attract men much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:17 AM
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80% of the men here don't know about shit tests and 80% of women here claim they don't exist. Quality post. Especially about emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:10 AM
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I'm pretty sure most men know "she was hot" was how they got caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:08 AM
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It's not at all underrated if you're an average guy. Pussy is pussy. If you're a guy that can get women at will, of course you'd rather be single than stuck to one pussy. There's no drama and you have freedom if you're a man and not a little bitch. You don't have to worry about your girlfriend leaving you or being cheated on if you know you are the man and she can't find better. Also, you don't have to engage in empty conversations about nothing of substance. Yeah, I'll give you that one, gotta …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:07 AM
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That doesn't make him redpill. He's literally a virgin catholic who says he'll wait until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:59 AM
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Oh boy, this one is gonna be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:25 AM
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Where'd I say to settle with men you're not attracted to? You can still date and vet everyone in similar way as you do now, and I encourage getting RELATIONSHIP experience. Just don't give your pussy out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:24 AM
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Someone help me out here, sarcasm or not? Genuinely can't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:59 PM
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I'd say most if everyone respected the contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:58 PM
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No complaints as long as it's 100% consistent for all men. Most men complain that they are forced to wait while Chad got to rail her in the club's bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:57 PM
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Would all men be happier if women collectively decided sex was only for reproduction and nothing else? Not sure about all men, and not solely for reproduction, but I surely would be in favor of no sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:56 PM
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So don't sleep with them until you find out what they're like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:37 PM
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I still don't understand what's the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:35 PM
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Why would you be "hurt with bad intentions" just because he approached several women before you? If it doesn't change anything about the interaction between the two of you, why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:34 PM
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Making a rule that was something like "don't block too many people with opposing opinions to ensure proper debate" would make sense. Saying you can't block anyone is dumb as hell, as some people are blatantly obvious trolls whose shit you keep having to read (or rather just skip over).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:32 PM
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Yes, I would be very interested in clarification as to why this is a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:16 PM
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So most men who get married would rather be with younger partners? Why would they stay in such relationships then? They can't get any better (average guy) or they genuinely love other things about that person. Primary does not mean solely. Also what surgery would a 35 year old need? You completely missed the "looks better at 35 than at 20". She doesn't need anything if she wants to look 35. If she wants to look better at 35 than she did at 20, a doctor's usually involved (or she was way too fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:01 PM
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Of course he can. But he'd have to put in effort. And here is a good enough woman throwing herself at him. Dudes are lazy. Do you think he's gonna say no to a free fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:57 PM
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Let's put it this way. The primary thing most men look for in a woman is looks and not being a crazy bitch. The age when a woman is at her most beautiful is typically 20-25. You will very rarely find a woman that looks better at 35 than at 20, and it involves surgery most of the time. At best, she will keep her good looks as she ages, but she won't get more beautiful. So what do you think is the answer? Edit: What the fuck, OP is with a man 50 years older and is asking this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:54 PM
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Women have ridiculous standards indeed, but looks are also not all that matters for them. That data was for Tinder, in real life most men will "clear the bar" for the average woman. They may not end up fucking them, but that's cause of lack of game, not looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:52 PM
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Not that guy but he's doing marginally better than a literal incel (as per the proper definition, not what blue pilled women here call incels). At least he's fucking. But that's still a 2/10 if being an incel is 1/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:19 PM
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No. Still a betrayal. Would make it slightly less bad, not enough to change my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:54 PM
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plenty of guys I know wouldn't take it unless she was going to stay home with the kids. Well that's a given. Either work or be a SAHM. A guy who's desperate or really well off might be down to bankroll a woman's whole life, but I don't think most guys want to do that. She usually needs to at least have a job. I suppose I may be "really well off" given I make roughly 8x the average income for my country and bought an apartment in the center of the city with cash at 27. I guess I could be biased i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:02 PM
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Always a funny game to play. Troll? Genuinely deluded? Or a malicious actor that wants to see men fail even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:54 PM
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but most couples are from similar socioeconomic backgrounds That's because they are more likely to meet in the first place. Upper middle class is rarely going to be put into a situation to hang out with actual hobos. But as far as caring, very few guys care if she's jobless or has a good career.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:52 PM
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It goes for both genders but I'm having really hard time believing academic woman who is mentally well enough to study in high pressure environment would write that rant. Emotional IQ and "school" IQ have nothing to do with one another. The scenario you propose is totally possible, but so is the one directly presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:39 PM
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Funnily enough I noticed the opposite, people calling 3s a 6 or something. "Face card never declined" or whatever it is zoomers say on something that's halfway between a normal woman and Jabba the Hutt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:37 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:34 PM
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You joke, but I maintain that that is the absolute truth for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:13 PM
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How avoid becoming toxic towards women in general You just have to accept that that's the way they are. You're not toxic to a dog that eats its own shit, that's just what dogs do. Understand that they are how they are and that's just how it is. Also, how to deal with the fear that you will always be what she got/settled for, not the one she wanted/desired? Simple. Become the one she wants/desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:52 PM
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Of course they have high libido, but do they want sex as much as the average straight guy? They can get it constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:49 PM
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full of professional and even non-professional women The fact you even bother to separate this proves you have no idea what you are talking about. The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of men, barring the actual 1%, do not care how successful their girlfriend/wife is as far as career goes. Would they like it if she was? Of course. Is it anywhere near the top of the list for "do I want a relationship with her"? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:32 PM
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And they say men are incapable of introspection, yet they keep hyperfocusing on things THEY find attractive (career) despite the vast majority of men not caring about that in the slightest. They lie about what they want so assume we do, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:30 PM
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Same, ashamed to say it took me until almost the very end to realize it's best case scenario a troll, worst case some very out of touch girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:03 PM
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Oh, the consequences of their actions...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:03 PM
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as much as As stated in the other comment, we're in disagreement on what factor affects the outcome how much. I'm sure gay males are closer to women when it comes to sex as a motivator than to straight men. Even if the difference is still significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:57 AM
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Women don’t have to have frequent sex to see it this way. They don't need to have it, they just need to have the option to have it. Which most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:50 AM
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That's a lot of mental gymnastics to deny the massive disparity between n = 0 and n = 1. You are making claims you have no evidence for (woman is indoctrinated into staying with her husband because virginity is her only worth). Really? The divorce rate literally doubles between n = 0 and n = 1, are you saying literally every second woman is indoctrinated? All we can say for sure are stats, and stats say that if you want higher odds of your marriage succeeding, don't fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:48 AM
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Have you considered the option of men moving up to tier 3 rather than women moving down to tier 1? Cause "rubbing one out" just to solve the physical need caused by testosterone would be a way more appealing option if you are otherwise getting constant sex, ergo men placing less importance on it, even if women remain the same. Thereby massively reducing the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:42 AM
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That’s why I replied to you “I don’t think it’s just…” So we are in agreement about that then. The disagreement comes from the importance we place on individual factors. And I think it's at least 80% supply and demand and 20% biological differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:30 AM
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Right, the hyphen. https://xkcd.com/37/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:29 AM
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The only time I've seen Maslow used in these discussions is the (correct in my view) point that men need 'love and belonging' before they can 'love themselves' or 'work on themselves'. I wouldn't say they NEED it, but it helps a lot. Way more motivated to work on yourself if you have a reason for it (be the best partner for your girl).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:21 AM
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I disagree that it would be the same. Men would likely still put it as slightly more important than women would because of testosterone, but nowhere near as bad as it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:21 AM
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More than one thing can be true. I'm pretty sure there'd be a way less disconnect if the average men could have sex with an average woman any time he wants. Even if it would go slightly in the favor of males for the reason you say, it'd be nowhere close to what it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:19 AM
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I'm pretty sure the disconnect actually comes from supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:13 AM
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Except that's not what your source says. It stated preference, not "oh well sadly statistically women make less so statistically they will end up with richer men". Again, it stated PREFERENCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:50 AM
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Men on average still make more money than women, I’m not arguing that Of course you're not. You're arguing that hypergamy is not a thing, when the very source you linked proved it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:47 AM
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What I find hilarious is the amount of women and blue pillers trying to turn this against the red pill when Nick has absolutely nothing to do with that. We all know why they're getting backlash and it's because of things at a far more global and important level than whether you can fuck a woman or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:24 AM
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Do you consider Nick to be a "manosphere asshole"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:20 AM
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Look up pair bonding and how n count affects divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:18 AM
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I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:16 AM
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Hey man, at least you know the truth now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:11 AM
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Zoomer broccoli ass haircut... gross. Beard is dope though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:10 AM
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Where are you getting these from?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:08 AM
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For starters, I've fucked a decent number of virgins within a week or two. How fast sex happens is individual, not "virgin vs non-virgin". And secondarily, sure it may be a slight stain, but if you get sexual in a smart way and respect boundaries you won't get blown off just for that if you are otherwise good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:05 AM
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I keep seeing this "OLD" acronym. What does it actually mean? Googling returned a 2021 tv show, but that doesn't seem to fit the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:03 AM
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"Actions being widely accepted does not at all impact society in any way shape or form."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:00 AM
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Societal degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:59 AM
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Absolute fucking loser, don't go back to a woman that fucked someone else. I guess it's the best he could do though. I don't know why everyone else is focusing on this orgasm thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:58 AM
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Using Wikipedia as a source Lmao. But sure, let's go with that. In a 2016 paper that explored the income difference between couples in 1980 and 2012, researcher Yue Qian noted that the tendency for women to marry men with higher incomes than themselves still persists in the modern era.[7] THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE PAGE YOU LINKED. An empirical study examined the mate preferences of subscribers to an online dating service in Israel that had a highly skewed sex ratio (646 men for 1,000 women). Desp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:55 AM
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Whataboutism is always a great argument. Nobody should be fucking so much, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:52 AM
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Like that about 1/3 women has experienced some form of sexual violence. Can you define what "some form" means? Cause I absolutely believe that well over 1/3 of women have experienced cat calls or guys being pushy. I would not consider that sexual violence. I highly doubt 1/3 of women have been raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:25 AM
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It’s disproven nowadays So your source is... "my ass"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:23 AM
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TBH she probably shit tested me too at some point, but I just treated it as flirting or banter. The nice thing about shit tests is that, after a month or two or however long it takes you of having to consciously think about them, you stop registering them after a while and just pass them all with ease, cause it became natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:20 AM
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For me, calling something a shit test implies shit test intent. Challenging someone to see how they will react and then decide whether to interact further based on that. Shit tests don't have to be conscious, in fact they more often are not. But women just do them when being flirted with, and the response from the guy determines her feelings towards him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:19 AM
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Yes, yes, yes. All of this is what I state in my book. I do give "examples" of pickup lines but I repeatedly state that they are just examples to get you to start thinking in a certain way, and that you should not memorize them. Make your own new one every time, specific to the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:15 AM
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Chad doesn't always have to talk to women* if he's Chaddy enough, all he wants is sex, and the environment he's in is conducive to not having to do it (club). So we're gonna have to disagree on that. Given enough "Chaddiness" you can get by just on looks. But sex is all you will get, not a proper long term relationship, so other stuff than looks still matters. *obviously words have to be exchanged but we both know what is meant by "talk to women".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:13 AM
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That's why I think it's important to meet people where they emotionally are, rather than just assume an attitude of "they could do it if they want to/if they were stronger." I'll say that I do tend to take that stance. I had an absolute shit upbringing and had absolutely nobody serving me all of this on a plate as I try to do to such guys today. I struggled and searched on my own. These guys are being spoon-fed AND they're crying about it. Makes it really hard for me to "meet them emotionally" w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:58 AM
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All of this pill nonsense is the result of men dating women they don't like for access to sex, and women dating men they don't like for use as a cash cow. No, all of this pill nonsense is the result of decent guys having 0 luck with women despite "on paper" being at least average (average looks, average height, maintain hygiene). Why? Cause they don't understand female attraction. That's literally why it's called the red pill, because you wake up from the matrix of "all women are angels, take it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:51 AM
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Yeah, agreed. Unless someone is blatantly awful, you really can't tell at the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:44 AM
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I would not expect someone flaired "red pill" to use the term "manosphere assholes". Can you elaborate on this seeming contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:28 PM
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are you high tier normie? Please elaborate more on this system, I am very interested. What stuff other than "normie" exists? What makes someone low, mid, or high tier normie? What is above a normie? Or below it? What are the requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:23 PM
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Women do indeed say the kind of man they want. It just so happens that the kind of man they say they want, and the kind of man they actually end up with, is almost the exact opposite of one another. Nowadays it seems to be getting better, but back in 2017 which is when I found TRP society was still very much saying "of course women love guys that are nice and bring them flowers, they would never go after a bad boy. Women that do are rare and broken." Hence why TRP makes you see "the truth".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:36 PM
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Old school RP did teach formulaic responses to those kinds of tests, which was a flaw, but the core message was don't get flustered by it. Lean into it. Be fun. Yep. In my book I do give out "examples" of how to respond to a shit test, but I emphasize that you are not meant to use the exact examples I use, and you should come up with your own that fit your style. Because you can't respond to every shit test with AA for example. In fact whenever I need to give actual examples for stuff like shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:30 PM
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Is there no nuance in it? I sure hope there is. But the thing is that my "voice" is very strong. I actually wrote several choose your own adventure stories on a site for them, and pretty much everyone that read those commented on the fact my personality is almost overbearing in my writing. And me being redpill, I can only assume that has transferred over to the writing of this book. I tried my hardest to present my advice in a way that would not lead men to take the blackpill OR the redpill and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:08 PM
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Serbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:04 PM
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Thank you for this detailed comment, kind of randomly popping in this discussion but it is precisely this kind of discussion I wanted to encourage with the post. All the best! At the time it was written, it was RP, because "society" was still pushing false narratives like women want "nice guys", like women like guys with money/cars/fancy job, like you can "win" a woman by being her crying shoulder best friend and make her "see" you after her 47th crappy ex by "confessing" at which point she'd "c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:03 PM
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I'll recommend one song from each but obviously I like more than 1. From the "currently popular" artists it'd be Nucci - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXY3TGWMo0Q and Breskvica - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72VBsKSRBD4 For a really wtf experience it'd be Desingerica - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnKcNP5YEgI And as for music I used to listen to in my "forever alone" days that I occasionally play it'd be Dzenan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSWFH79nAk0 as well as Baja - https://www.y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:55 PM
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A lot of this isn't red pill ideas. A lot of this is very much red pill ideas. It's just not the red pill of today, apparently. It's the red pill I discovered in 2017. And you have a massive amount of anti female comments from a lot of angry men who seem to never get out of that phase. And on that redpill of 2017, such guys would be told to shut the fuck up and come back once they're out of the anger phase. And indeed, some of it is the direct opposite of what TRP preaches. I have clarified that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:43 PM
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There actually is a free link available of a... pretty rough draft. If anyone is interested they can message me. As I mentioned in another comment, this started off as me trying to help my friend out with women. So I started writing it in small, self-contained "lessons", and the initial couple of them were very much written in a style I want to change when I get around to compiling everything into the actual book. Since then, I've adjusted (starting from lesson 7ish) and started writing down les…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:39 PM
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Most of this stuff should have been stuff your parents taught u. I think most parents teach their kids most of this stuff already. Unfortunately man young men today do not have the benefit of this. Which is indeed what the book is trying to accomplish, as they are the target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:33 PM
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low key getting a feeling you're huminiated because the girl didn't act like a pornstar being gangbanged by 6 dudes. It's on you to train your girl into acting this way. Took me a while with my girl because I am her first and she is ridiculously fucking conservative. But as soon as I got her into choking it's like the floodgates opened.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:22 PM
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Which user is that? Feel free to message me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:20 PM
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Size really isn't everything. I'm approximately 15% longer than the average, and ~33% wider (which is actually a much bigger deal and much more than it sounds). Sex with my first girlfriend sucked balls so much she started getting thoughts of maybe being asexual at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:17 PM
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Drunk women and women at parties can make the first move. Be very assured that in the vast majority of cases, such women are of drastically lower SMV than the man they made the move on. I've had first moves made on me mostly by 4s and around that level, and I consider myself a 7. I had an 8 randomly hit me up once on facebook (you can tell that was a while ago), but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:13 PM
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I am very curious as to why you would be interested in the music of a country whose language you presumably do not speak. And because you presumably do not speak the language, I am not sure what to recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:08 PM
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Are you familiar with this very very niche concept of "horniness"? I think most men would not bother interacting with most women if we all magically lost our dicks and the human race started reproducing asexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:56 PM
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I suppose I see your point, and my reply would be that quality stuff will get spread through word of mouth. How far? Who knows. But I don't intend to change the world, merely help struggling men the way I wish someone helped me. I know the advice I give is incredibly valuable. What would make me different from the "dozens of guys" is the sheer quality, as in it will literally be an actual book of who knows how many pages worth of advice which works. Now you are correct that I have no qualificati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:48 PM
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Ok, well if you don't have any evidence then I don't think that claim should go in your book. There is no "evidence" for most parts of most dating books, other than going out and witnessing it work in real life. That's how I separated the wheat from the chaff way back when I only started doing this. I tried everything, saw what works and what doesn't, and I only share stuff I know works. I don't see how your opinion on men's looks is relevant, seeing as you're not a woman and you don't date men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:52 PM
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Hi there, appreciate the wonderfully detailed response. I'll try to respond to most points. A better way of looking at it may be to encourage them to get really honest with themselves about what kind of lifestyle they want and can reasonably achieve–not just money, but experiences, time, mental and emotional well-being, etc–and get started on making that happen. This, and several other points you raise are a victim of something I've clarified - This text post is already well over 10K characters …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:47 PM
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I do indeed, I have replied to another comment asking this in a bit more detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:28 PM
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Shit testing meanwhile also happens but the term is kind of mired in negative connotations from TRP’s growth. Might be worth finding another way to frame it or a broader framework for the phenomenon like understanding less intuitive means of banter If someone is interested in improving their love life they'll ignore "negative connotations". And shit tests as a concept wonderfully explain "banter".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:27 PM
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Well to be fair, if you have to memorize all this stuff then you are autistic. To be fair, I myself am heavily autistic. And whenever I explain any of these concepts in my book, I explain down to every minute detail the stuff that most people would think "comes naturally" precisely because I am autistic and know what things "normies" take for granted are not obvious to us. The good thing is that after "faking" it long enough you "make it" and no longer have to think about it. It DOES become natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:26 PM
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Ok well I do not recommend your book That's cool. I guess you recommend complaining on the internet about stuff you can't change? So you literally are asking me to just trust you I'm asking you to consider whether what I said was logical and decide based on that. I can't link you to an official study that focused on increasing men's SMV. There is no way you actually have evidence for that. 2 and 3 are just subjective categories that you made up I would imagine if the vast majority of men were ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:21 PM
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Except in your example the student is not being graded at the end. You very much are looking at the outcome of the shit test, whether you're aware of it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:15 PM
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Of course you can't do it all at once. But if you clear 50% of the list in the first 2 years, and are now implementing them, should you not then focus on the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:06 PM
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None of what you said contradicts the "only looks matter" mindset If literally only looks mattered, then you would disagree with the rest of the advice, no? It'd be irrelevant since the sole thing you need is looks. And dating apps are the way the majority of couples meet so not really off to a great start here You are allowed to do things outside what the majority does. I do not recommend dating apps. Source: "just trust me bro" If you are not any of: 1) Shorter than the average woman 2) Visibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:05 PM
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no individual person would or should do all of it I can definitely agree with the "would", but if you agree with the advice, why "should" a person NOT follow all of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:54 PM
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Uhh... yeah. Yeah that's pretty much it. Their male friends will cover their other social needs in a much better way than most women will. A pussy is the only thing they don't have. This of course does not mean nothing but sex is important in a relationship, of course one would ideally want a partner who covers all of their needs. Alas, many men can't get that. And that brings us to your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:47 PM
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I just simply wanted to know why dating is so one sided according to him. Because most men will fuck anything that moves. Supply and demand. But that's not the point of this thread, arguing about the overall dating scene. You have 2593846 other threads for that. If you've concluded that "the juice isn't worth the squeeze" then by all means, keep on jerking off in your room. For me it was. And I fear you are overrating just how tough the "squeeze" is. And underrating how good the "juice" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:28 PM
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Indeed. "Chad and women don't have to do any of this". You're not Chad or a woman. Why complain about it? In fact I explicitly stated this in the post lol. Sure, 10/10 Chad can fuck most women at the club or Tinder easily, but you're not 10/10 Chad, so why bother complaining about it rather than working on yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:20 PM
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A man doesn't NEED to do any of this. I'm sure you've seen total losers with a girlfriend. In fact I'm sure you've seen plenty of dudes doing the exact opposite of many of this with a girlfriend. I just listed stuff that will improve your odds and make you a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:09 PM
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Marriage is a kind of relationship yes, but I think it should be obvious to anyone commenting in good faith what type of relationship I am specifically referring to. And in your OP you said they should be able to walk away from anything you're unsatisfied with, you emphasised that. If I clarified every single point 100%, with all the fine print and edge cases, I could probably not fit a quarter in the 40K limit Reddit allows. This is what the comments are for, and as you can see I clarify in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:08 PM
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And I asked you to define what a relationship is. At what point does it become a relationship versus a hookup? And you haven't been able to provide an answer. If you completely ignore what I wrote, then no I have not provided an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:04 PM
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At least try to pretend you're commenting in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:59 PM
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Have you... read the comment you replied to? Cause no, a normal person should NOT be fine walking away from their home, spouse, children. A normal person SHOULD be able to walk from a RELATIONSHIP that no longer satisfies them, or a friend they no longer feel has their best interest in mind. I have clarified on two separate comments that what I said is meant for dating, not for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:57 PM
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How many relationships have you had? I'm gonna need you to define what counts as a "relationship" because that will heavily affect my answer. What makes you qualified to write a book? The fact I went from being an autistic kissless virgin at 18 who pretty much everyone thought was "weird" to being able to get women at will. I don't have a degree from the institute for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:45 PM
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Agreed with everything you said. I go into much more detail in all of these in my book, but I obviously could not delve deep into any particular topic, lest I run out the 40K characters halfway through. Be authentic BOTH because it's a good thing to do AND because it's actual dating advice as women will "smell" the incongruity like blood hounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:41 PM
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Yep, most of this stuff you can find in the sidebar, AMONG the other stuff blue pillers cry about. I did state I cherry picked for stuff both sides could agree on, so I'm not sure where the several people crying "this is not true red pill" are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:39 PM
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I do indeed. She's very kind, emotionally stable, I am her first boyfriend, we never tire of each other's company, the sex is constant and amazing and she is genuinely the most beautiful girl I know IRL. There's a famous singer in my country (https://images.genius.com/0e17c005762b6ef925e0c84b188540bf.1000x1000x1.jpg) who looks very similar to my girl, except I maintain that my girl is just a tad hotter. About the only negatives I could list are that she is not interested in games or anime, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:32 PM
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A red pill advice book would explain that society is “gynocentric” and thus deliberately lies to you about fickle, immature “female nature” (aka hypergamy) for women’s benefit. "Red pill is a toolbox" is a comment you could see on almost every thread there back in 2017. If you don't like AWALT, discard any thought of that and simply focus on self improvement and understanding what women are attracted to. The point of this thread is, after all, to try to get both sides to agree on actionable advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:27 PM
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Foreplay is part of sex. Skipping it is like trying to do it soft. And it starts long before the bedroom. It might help to think of it like cake. Cake is the best when someone made it for you bc they like you, and they bothered to ask what you like in your cake so you know it's gonna be awesome, you aren't stressed out, you don't feel guilty about it, and you've been dreaming about it all day long. If you're both interested in cake, you can hype each other up for it. The whole process is fun, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:22 PM
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Do you think these are commonly asked questions in dating? Yes, because I myself have heard it many times IRL. I see your flair says you're a woman, but I assure you I have (and so have many other guys I know IRL, and evidently many guys on the internet, meaning it's not a local only thing) witnessed this question asked, as well as similar "commonly used shit tests". There's a lot of stuff that was said on RedPill. I did not believe any of it just because. I went out and tested it, determining f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:10 PM
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You do not go "I am going to make X statement and see how the other person reacts to it, and will decide whether I should fuck them based on that". You talk and talk and eventually say something. The other person responds to that something, and suddenly you find yourself much more (or much less) attracted to the other person based on that one statement. You do not need to have intended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:08 PM
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While I get where you are coming from, and it is a little bit one-sided, after a while this will become natural to you, and not something you have to memorize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:05 PM
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Right, as I clarified this applies to dating. Rules change if you intend to marry this woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:02 PM
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The reason "just be yourself" is a meme is that people give it all on its own like it will solve anything. But "don't pretend to be something you're not" is valid when paired with other actually usable advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:01 PM
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I gave examples in another comment, but you could ask a question of another person without giving it a second thought, yet their answer to it can very much affect the way you feel about them. Whether it was intended or not, that was a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:00 PM
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I didn't get my shit test encyclopedia out for this one so pardon if you think it is not the best example, but the very first thing that comes to mind is: "I bet you say that to all the girls." Your response to that can ruin you, or get her more attracted. Good response: "No, you're the first girl I've ever spoken to." while making it obvious with your expression and body language that it's fake. This keeps the conversation funny, and conveys that you are socially well adjusted. Bad response: "N…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:58 PM
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I am very curious where you believe one is going to get a diploma for helping people find a relationship. Did I miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:49 PM
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Can you point to the "just be yourself" bit? Do you mean the part where I say "be authentic"? The issue with "just be yourself" is that it doesn't actually mean anything. I specifically make fun of "just be yourself" as an advice in one of the first lessons of my book, but that is because it's such a vague term that helps nobody. Don't pretend to be someone you're not is good advice, I am confused why you think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:48 PM
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Jeez man take it easy, i just tell you my opinion based on how i understand it, you don't have to agree or be aggressive with it. I quite disagree that I have been aggressive. The part where don't stop hitting gym and continue having life is tricky, sometimes things happen in life that can break men emotionally and physically. At that time, can that man be the same as he was before? Will that advice still apply here? You need to try your hardest to not let anything affect you. But it can of cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:45 PM
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But we both know redpill isn't what you wrote. Really? Almost like I should've written that down in the... with approx 25% being stuff from other sources or even stuff where I disagree with TRP. Oh. Oh. My flair implies my disagreement with TRP on some issues, but the TRP that changed my life has above all else promoted taking responsibility and bettering yourself (among calling women whores and claiming AWALT). to advertize redpill to bluepillers What exactly am I supposed to be advertising whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:43 PM
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No, I am very much pro marriage. I believe that a traditional family is the best environment to raise children in (and as an aside, that belief is the reason I am currently in a nearly 2 year long LTR rather than just fucking around). The statements you quoted apply before any marriage vows. Those definitely make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:37 PM
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