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Half your post is about getting a better deal or a good sided deal. I can assure you almost everyone going into marriage isn't looking to make sure they have a better deal than the other person . Actually should correct msyelf.. most men aren't. That goes against everything a marriage is suppossd to be and it's precisely this mindset that causes marriages to fall apart.. usually when she feels she can get a better deal. It's the wrong mindset but unfortunately as we have all come to learn that's…
/r/MGTOW02/09/20 01:32 PM
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Yeah you both speak a lot of truth. I do remember first hand... She'd be a complete cunt to someone and when trying to be a peace maker I would say well to be fair you DID do this .. maybe you can reach a compromise ..and it would always how dare you not take my side 100%... Like I wasn't allowed to give any perspective or befair in my assessment, I was supposed to blindly support her 100%
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/20 05:17 AM
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Why is it always women who think they can just take the kids and the other parent be damned? I literally never hear of guys do this to their wives.. I mean it's obviously not that common they take them altogether.. but there is always that mindset that for whatever reason the father deserves less time at the very least. They seem to have this mindset that the children are a possession of theirs
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/20 01:45 AM
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Coulda just stuck with the second last paragraph about not getting married because even being a good guy won't satisfy. The rest comes across as trying to shame the guy for doing what he thinks is being a good father and husband. Like screw him for being a decent human being right? He should just sleep around for fun so he fits a woman's dream of what she thinks is dominant or masculine. Who says just because a guy is a nice dude that he isn't either of those things? Us guys spend way too much t…
/r/MGTOW01/09/20 01:38 PM
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Those gingerbread men/women are a little crazy methinks
/r/MGTOW31/08/20 03:35 PM
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Gotta be honest as much as she was terrible before that's kind of a sad story. I think I'd feel more pity at that point than justice for something that happened years ago. Hopefully she has learned some humility and at some point gets back on her feet...
/r/MGTOW30/08/20 07:51 PM
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Just look at who it's sociably acceptable to insult or even just criticize and who it isn't... That tells you a lot
/r/MensRights30/08/20 05:34 PM
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Cause you know just talking about sexual preferences and possibly deciding you just aren't compatible wouldn't be the mature and reaosnable thing to do Like yeah shaming and bring a bitch is really going to make me so hot and want to eat you out
/r/MGTOW30/08/20 03:53 PM
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Yeah even in my most blue pilled days I could never understand jumping through all those hoops. Even my friends would say things like act like more of an ahole or something and I'd be like why? If I have to act like someone I'm not just to gain their attention then it's just not meant to be
/r/MGTOW28/08/20 03:18 PM
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As a bit of a former simp I'm my younger days sadly o actually did care about the girls. That's where I'd disagree.. was the women are wonderful affect. Had a disillusioned view of some of them.. some I sAw as the whores they were but my oneitus said certain ones were everything I ever wanted...some of them I still think of time to time15+ years later and hard not to have that same tender feeling even though I realize looking back I dodged a bullet. Heck I have even seen their FB profile Nd the …
/r/MGTOW28/08/20 03:15 PM
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This is honestly a decent answer assuming age appropriate and not hours on end, get their homework and other stuff done. Not sure why the downvotes
/r/Divorce_Men25/08/20 04:32 AM
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Yup. That was me.. never more lonely than iny marriage. There was the part about expecting intimacy and not getting it, but besides that it was the constant feeling of being inadequate, of not being ok being myself I think that really made me lonely. Killed my self esteem
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 02:43 PM
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Never had any serious gf s til early 20s. Everyone knew I was shy and some buddies gave me a bit of a hard time occasionally but for most people no one thought I was weird or anythjnf. At least as far as I knew.. other than one popular girl who supposedly thought it was a little scary or something that someone big and strong would be so shy.. like I had something to hide. Or so a friend told me but I guess her other friend thought it was a good thing I was like that
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 03:54 AM
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Really don't think so. I definitely don't live my ex anymore. Don't event hunk she's a very good human being . But I'd never celebrate her killing herself.. goodness... Wouldn't even if it was my worst enemy.. her mother probably closest thing to that and I wouldn't celebrate
/r/MensRights23/08/20 10:04 PM
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Yeah just go on divorce Reddit and there are even threads like I really dread dating right now .. how do I get past this dread or how can I get ready despite this dread. If you answer if you dread it so much then don't? And you get some response about but but I'll be lonely. Divorce was a few months, weeks, or not even officially divorced yet... Guys some seem to be on board with yeah forget this.. sometimes only after being burned multiple times. Sadly there are plenty of pathetic guys who have…
/r/MGTOW23/08/20 02:55 PM
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Notice how she says she makes more money Nd pretty much the husband. In other words she's reduced a husband down to nothing but somebody who shells out money. That's essentially what I'd a husband is to her and that's what she calls dominant
/r/MGTOW23/08/20 06:04 AM
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As I'm going through divorce #3 is so hard for me to understand and it comes up so frequently on these Reddit's. After being married I take comfort in not having to always share everything with someone and have to cater to them. I've come to realize being in a long term relationship just isn't for me. Enjoyy space and freedom way too much. Never have to second guess making plans because of them, it I want to just wake up and stay in my robe all day and do pointless crap or nothing at all I can. …
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/20 03:45 PM
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Mostly right.. that's why I've really only had a couple legit Freund's that were girls in my entire life. Grew up with a tomboy who did track and karate with me.. liked gaming a bit too... One of my girlfriend's in early adulthood was cute but better off friends actually. Would go over and play left 4 dead with her a lot. She was actually pretty good. I was more into football but she was big into hockey. Loved hiking and outdoorsy stuff. A girl from work introduced me to a couple of my favourite…
/r/MGTOW21/08/20 04:31 PM
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Somehow this statement doesn't give me the confidence it should... Too many stories otherwise.. that and not sure I'd still case when one is younger... Has lawyers I was consulting to possible even hire that told me younger kids may stau more with the one who's been at home with them more
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/20 02:33 AM
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Don't hate ex... Hopefully still won't after this is settled. I'm in disbelief how entitled, manipulative, lazy, and dishonest, she actually is though. I can say I definitely don't like her. My kids are great.. just hope I do end up getting equitable parenting time. Her and her lawyer think I'm should just be a visitor apparently. Wondering if this upcoming settlement meeting is a waste of time. Prob going to trial basrd on her very delusional views on things. Wants to have kids most of time and…
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/20 02:31 AM
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Men cant be generous? Lol.. pretty sure most of the biggest philanthropists in the world are men. Pretty sure it's a male instinct to sacrifice for women and children too
/r/MensRights20/08/20 01:37 PM
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Yeah unfortunately even though it's still good to have some community you really have to read the Bible yourself and fact check everything you hear in church. Def feel there are misconceptions or sometimes just too much emphasis on one thing over another
/r/MGTOW19/08/20 08:44 PM
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Yeah it's pretty darn hard to get the other parent completely cut off. Here in Canada at least our former mediator I fired had an alcoholic husband.. she fought years and eventually he still got some time with them but had to blow into a breathalyzer when he picked them up and wasn't allowed to drink while he has them
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/20 01:58 PM
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Yeah and might be more helpful if it's from peers than some random stranger
/r/MensRights19/08/20 02:11 AM
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Yeah you're right some amount of shaming actually does make people think maybe I can be better. Shaming in general can be a healthy thing to a certain extent. We are all snowflakes these days and shaming is such a taboo. People today basically fall into the category of having no shame and there's a reason that was never considered a good thing. Heck society was a lot better when people were shamed for sleeping around too much too
/r/MensRights19/08/20 01:53 AM
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That too. Consistently inconsistent. There are those that by nature basically flirt with everyone but claim they're not. Guess if you flirt with everyone it's not flirting. Then those that like you said think you're a block head that don't pick up on hints. There are even those messages about how they reject guys and are mad they didn't try harder after rejecting them lol
/r/MensRights18/08/20 10:22 PM
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Let's be honest... There are lots of women out there that like to flirt just for fun and games. I've known many women that are clearly flirting (not just with me but others) who will say oh I was just being friendly.. why would he get the wrong idea? We all know them and they regularly lead guys on
/r/MensRights18/08/20 09:39 PM
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Sounds very similar. I'd get home and the kids would be mine. Always get youngest ready for bed and baths.even on weekends shed go upstairs. But she does care about them and is decent mom. Also takes lead in those medical and education decisions. Don't think she realizes how expensive and unaffordable some of it is without her rich family . Noticed at first she suddenly got into baking during divorce.. thought maybe trying to seem wonder mom. Since then she's mostly just done gardening every day…
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/20 06:36 PM
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Yeah mine wants to give me the every second weekend bs. Lawyer is like.. that's very old school and not appropriate for an involved parent like yourself . Dads aren't just visitors anymore. She's just being rediculous in general... Trying to maintain same lifestyle as married.. get me and her rich family to keep footing the bill and stay home with kids ..even saying she should have them more because of that. Like f that.. get to work and we both share financial responsibility and custody of kids…
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/20 06:09 PM
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Yeah same worries. And in my case work schedule doesn't do me any favours unlike op. Work 9 hours days to get every second Friday off plus whatever I take for lunch (usually half hour)... Barely gave me enough time to drop off and pick youngest from daycare when girls went on a trip if I used the earliest and latest hours. Older one will need to find some kind of before/after.. one at school likely alreayd full or hope my ex isnt too pissed off by the time this is finished and can help with logi…
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/20 05:50 PM
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Not a fan either but one if those cases I think where don't throw out the baby with the bath water might apply
/r/MGTOW18/08/20 02:18 PM
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Ok so I'm not the only one annoyed by her trying to hijack the waifu term just because she's asian lol...
/r/MGTOW17/08/20 08:53 PM
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Honestly I had no idea how bad family court was when I married 10 years ago. Think people waking up more now though. I'm not always ready to pile on when people say they made a bad choice for either gender. Yeah if he's abusive before and dealing drugs and jobless sure. Otherwise i know how bad you can get Fed over just for making one mistake that can haunt you for a life time
/r/MGTOW17/08/20 07:07 PM
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Yeah I'm worried I'm gonna get screwed on custody as well. I've always taken most of the parental duties after I get off work and on weekends .. she even sent youngest to daycare twice a week while not working. However I've been working 60+ hour weeks without even getting laid more than my 40 hours because work still needs to get done and every discipline was over budget. Just a nightmare ptoject and quite frankly most people at office have lost their jobs so I'm fighting for mine. She's been ou…
/r/MGTOW17/08/20 02:26 PM
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Wish I didn't have to go through marriage and divorce to learn this... This is good advice young men
/r/MGTOW17/08/20 02:18 PM
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Oh brother .. I make pretty close same as you. 1k a month for alimony way over the guidelines here.. should be like 300-400 hundred a month if everything else was equal. But support here almost 1200 for two kids. Anyways yeah houses here pretty expensive so was 550k for this house she would akrasyd be walking away with. Also has prob off the top of my head 80-100k between her tax free account and RRSP. Also has some investments from before marriage and I'm pretty sure she has an account with her…
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/20 05:18 PM
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Sadly not really. We lawyered up.. her first one was wasting her time and money so got a second. Her a d him made a rediculous offer.wss actually worse than mediation. Basically wanted fully paid house, any proceeds from condo sale which is minimal, her savings... I just have reitement and wants like a good chunk of that as alininy. They wanted 5 years and silly thing is they put half of minimum wage for her salary for those 5 years. Go flip burgers! Also wanted to bring my health benefits for a…
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/20 03:48 AM
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You know they're triggered and just emotional when they resort to the old incel insult
/r/MensRights15/08/20 09:17 PM
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It's insane that this isn't more widely known. How can people spout stats and repeatedly say only men rape and yet nobody points out the definition. Way too convenient for studies Nd people in the know to leave that little part out ..
/r/MensRights15/08/20 06:03 AM
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Legislate body autonomy away? I always have to ask.. what about the baby's body? Anyways seems he buys the wage gap and the over exaggerated claims about how hard they work around the house.. and the fact they always sexually harass.. etc. Always not sure how flipping the tables is sexist... Oh right men aren't allowed to play victim
/r/MGTOW14/08/20 02:11 PM
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Yeah I gotta get myself a laptop or siemthing once I go to move out. The one I was using was a gift from mother in law who got it though the uncles work. Not going to have a computer or printer either otherwise. Guess I gotta add a printer to that list.
/r/MGTOW14/08/20 01:39 AM
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It should be that simple and for most people it is as much as they want to draw it out and fight it. After living years thinking we had basically no debt she's calling all the family gifts as 'loans' with notes signed by her and momma. Don't think it would hold up in court which may be where we go. I actually want to respect the latest huge amount given but not interested in entertaining all these little amounts for 7/8 years ago
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/20 01:37 AM
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So yeah... Lets make spreading your legs out purely a man's issue and push their knees together but let's make a woman's chair that encourages them to spread their legs out
/r/MensRights14/08/20 12:04 AM
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Not sure why it's even a question.
/r/MGTOW13/08/20 10:36 PM
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Bro I'm so envious. I make close to same but tied down with child support and alimony once I get this finalized. I realize the best days if my life were having my own space, having just a couple close friends and ignoring society. Like you I'm an introvert and need very little. When I first started out and was making a lot less but was single I managed to save a fair chunk. Wish we had ocean and waves here I'd totally surf lol. One long distance ex I met through online games thought for sure I'd…
/r/MGTOW13/08/20 06:18 PM
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Never understood how women think because they carried them in birth they somehow deserves to have more than 50%. I almost never see any post from women saying my husband wants primary custody or more than 50%. It often just comes down to money because having your kid less than 50% isn't a Kickin the nuts enough already . We have to add cash and prizes to give them incentive to take your kids away and enable them to seek out minimal or no employment for a while. (Mine plans to collect from me and…
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/20 04:46 PM
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OP really sounds like she's hiding something and the ex has food reason to believe it's not his. That sub is so cucked... Just get the child support. And then others saying limited visitation or none. Why wouldn't he deserve 50% if it's actually his kid? Because him and mommy don't get along and he was suspicious? It's not about her feelings towards the ex
/r/MensRights13/08/20 04:38 PM
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Yeah it really shouldn't be more than a couple hundred a kid imo. I know here when it comes to daycare and extra curricular that's on top of CS so that's enough for food and maybe a bit of clothing occasionally. Not sure why they think the receiving party shouldn't have to contribute a little as well. Right now it just enables them
/r/MGTOW13/08/20 02:03 PM
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That sounds like their kind of logic lol
/r/MGTOW13/08/20 12:45 AM
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Sorry to hear how hard you've taken it. Aside from gym and joining clubs, hobbies don't be afraid to go talk to a therapist. Some people really need it after a divorce. If you were truly that much happier in marriage then you were one of the rare ones.. although maybe less rare for one to feel that way.. not both. I grew up buying the dream we were sold about having that family and house etc.. Ive come to the conclusion it was mostly a lie... I personally helped spread it.. fought all the time b…
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/20 08:36 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood. I was of the understanding you were saying guys don't want to divorce because of alimony... ? Cause to me that's small fries. Usually just a few hundred a month if she's a stay at home mom, sometimes waived altogether. The killers are losing half your stuff, half your time with the kids, and child support (generally 1k+ a month)
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 08:24 PM
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Replace alimony with child support and I agree. There should be 'some' provision to make sure kids are taken care of . But paying 1k+ for many people for 2 kids is stupid. Alimony is only a few hundred bucks and not always applicable. Reasons for avoiding divorce go further than that. Losing half your stuff and becoming a part time parent (was biggest one for me). Anyways you're exactly right. I was a lot healthier when I was a bachelor who cooked and shopped for myself.
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 07:29 PM
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I don't know how to even unpack everything here. All I can see is it only goes.uphill from here. Why did she leave? What can he offer that you can't? Honestly the main thing is that he's new and exciting. Look around this sub and you'll see plenty of people who leave decent spouses because after enough years when hormones wear off they think something is wrong if that person starts to feel too familiar and not exciting anymore. The fact she was with someone at the drop of a hat is evidence of th…
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/20 07:12 PM
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Boy sure sounds like she spends a lot of time in the wrong crowd then is completely oblivious when he tries to isolate her 1 on 1 or ask if she wants to go back to his place etc. Sex doesn't just spontaneously happen...makes me think of the joke about slipping on a banana peel and landing on it .
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 05:26 PM
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Was actually pleasantly surprised. Not with results.. that shit doesn't work. Can't negotiate basic desire or respect. But we saw two different counsellors (pastor wanted us to see his guy after we were gon s divorce) and both more or less saw through her bs, especially second who was a guy. He gave her some real tough love and basically explained when you cut him off like that, immediately make him the bad guy and corner him with such a highly emotional response there's not much he can do to me…
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 04:09 PM
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I'd assume it's the Toronto Star, but could be wrong.
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 01:59 PM
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How the hell in like the last say.. 20 years did we go from dressing without any modesty made you a hoe to.... You can let the whole world see you on display and somehow that doesn't make you a hoe? What's the standard now? You have to actually be penetrated by multiple men a week to reach the criteria or what?
/r/MGTOW12/08/20 01:58 PM
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Yeah I hear ya. My brother in law teaches I think gr 2? I'd be more worried about high school. Ya never know when one of them might think it'd be funny or might make them popular or something. An old buddy I unfortunately lost touch with teaches high school. Hopefully never happens to him.. he's a bit more in the nerdy side, think he used to arrange settlers of Catan club and stuff like that.. but ya never know
/r/MensRights12/08/20 03:27 AM
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Yeah I almost wish I went that route instead. Would be a lot less on my mind always worrying about whether I'll have a job down the road.. alreayd feel I may need to go back to school while being a single dad which is scary. My brother in law is managing it alright. But yeah it's a damn shame there aren't a lot of male teachers noe. Growing up some of them had a huge influence in me. Male role models are so lacking now
/r/MensRights12/08/20 01:38 AM
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Honestly I think you sell single and divorced single people short.. although you didn't say there was a huge gap or how rare the truly happy married or cohabitating couple is or how long those last, so maybe you took those factors into account. Aside from newly weds that 'happily married' couple is generally not so happy. Have yet to really know any who have been married 10+ years that truly fit into that category once you get to know them. I think generally what would be considered happily marr…
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/20 11:09 PM
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Can I pick on teachers for a minute? Seems to fit this analogy.. I do appreciate them, but bear with me. You could argue engineers and other degrees have potential to make more money.. true.. but still a pretty good wage at least here, rarely ever have to worry about losing job (especially after a few years), get a chunk of time at summer and around Christmas (yes there is prep to do), get a great pension plan, benefits etc. Seems applicable because dominated by females there days. Locally in th…
/r/MensRights11/08/20 10:49 PM
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Tone police sounds very much like a woman. When was the last time a guy told a woman to watch her tone? My ex did that all the damn time. Gas lighting could be either but ex did it all the time
/r/MGTOW11/08/20 08:41 PM
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I've been spending a fair bit of time also on divorce and men's divorce... Seems almost every other post is the 'i love you, but not in love with you'.. or a tale about leaving a decent person because of too much familiarity or lack of excitement. Really I've learned to read between the lines and essentially boils down to the love hormones wore off and I'm bored... Like yeah after a while feels a bit more like a roommate.. but what did you expect? You marry a 'partner' which is what they eventua…
/r/MGTOW11/08/20 08:30 PM
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Possibly the d & d (both Chad and Tyrone)
/r/MGTOW11/08/20 01:55 PM
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Majority of truly homeless people are that way because of mental illness since resources and programs are available. You might say well guys and women. Both have mental illness. Could be society telling them it's too shameful to get help.. we all know male mental illness is less looked at than female and a big stigma for guys to admit it. Also consider there are so many men that would rescue a female oit of that. How many men would have a woman do the same? It's alreayd shown that women who make…
/r/MGTOW10/08/20 11:56 PM
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Yup... They've abandoned the traditional female role but still expect chivalry and all of what's expected of the traditional male role. Having their cake and eating it too. Also don't expect their to be any consequence to their lfiestyle down the road. It's always... You shouldn't judge me by my past or something about misogyny and slut shaming. I fell for that once. Took a divorce to realize it's absolutely fair to judge by the past even if she claims to be a good Christian girl now
/r/MensRights10/08/20 09:45 PM
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Chances are he's a simp whose pride can't take that but yeah worth a shot
/r/MensRights10/08/20 09:41 PM
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Yeah every lawyer i consulted with asked if my own signature was in the docs and if I'd seen them before. ATM it's just her and her mom's signature with bank statements showing money came into account (note in some cases it transferred to another account after and other cases into mortgage.. who knows where the rest went after). Not even a third party witness signature. So pretty sure it'll be same in my case. Supposed to be having a settlement meeting early September. I don't even want much. Ju…
/r/Divorce_Men10/08/20 08:30 PM
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Now that's what you call a simp. Hormones overtook common sense. Wonder if he was subscribed to her onlyfans. If it's shown she talked him into and considering she was along for the ride why she wouldn't face some fine as well. Pussy pass?
/r/MGTOW10/08/20 05:25 PM
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I'd argue 'thijgs' are actually very important to women. I hear you in needing social validation and status . But women are also very materialistic.. even the ones that don't need name brand.. my ex didn't care... She still likes to hordr.thijgs around the house..
/r/MGTOW10/08/20 02:18 PM
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There is a saying here. She's not sorry you're hurt, she's sorry she got caught. She had no issues leading you on and enjoy Ed the attention of an orbiter while she went after the other guy. You're prob not the only orbiter either
/r/MGTOW10/08/20 02:03 PM
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I call bullshit on not wanting to play games or drama. My experience is I'd she's a woman she has at least a little of that in her....
/r/MGTOW10/08/20 05:06 AM
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Can't imagine why being able to drink would be at the top of anyone's list. I get not wanting a complete stick in the mud but don't have to drink to have fun it bean interesting person
/r/MGTOW10/08/20 01:27 AM
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Well if she's so worried there rid always abstinence... Ya know our forefathers believe in it so not like it's not an option. I mean guys (and women) have the possibility of some pretty bad STSd which can be worse.
/r/MensRights09/08/20 10:48 PM
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Mediator tried to propose that and the her lawyer did. Terms suck though. Think mediator wanted to give me rebate if 3%... Her lawyer only 1%... First one maybe come close to .arching interest (although with a bottomed market can likely make more than that). No further contingencies for losing job (could be any week now), for her income increasing (her lawyer put her income as half minimum wage next 5 years). And here I can claim as a deduction on taxes. So no way would I pay lump sum unless ter…
/r/Divorce_Men09/08/20 09:03 PM
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I'm happy to just buy a dependable sedan 3-5 years old that I can drive for 10 years and have a humble place paid off quickly. Prob be looking for a compact SUV though cause of my kids. Never bought a new vehicle even when I was making 6 figures. If only do so if everything else was paid off in full I think. I mean hey those cars are nice but at the end of the day it's a luxury toy for grown ups
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 07:00 PM
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So many stories if leeches just hanging out at home leaving it in a mess (including msyelf) and yet I've had guys argue with me and link studies showing women still do way more around the house .. as I pointed out to them women often exaggerate how much they've done that day
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 06:00 PM
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I did it for 9/10 years of marriage. The lazy cunt didn't bother finding work after losing job a year in. It was very tight . But her rich family helped pay off some mortgage so that helped. But yes otherwise very tight and would not have been able to save any retirement money otherwise.. mine you she out kids in special programs and out them in daycare while being a SAHM for 'education'. Fast forward and now she says that family money was 'loanrd' so she gets more than her 50% of assets during …
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 05:59 PM
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I swear in today's age there really are no decent politicians at any level. It's like south park and choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Choosing between Trump and Biden is terrible. Choosing between although I shook my head at Trudeau the conservatives didn't really out forth a strong candidate either. Provincially we had shit choices too. It's like all politicians just suck now lol
/r/MGTOW08/08/20 04:19 PM
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It's just dragging on and can't wait to finalize it and move out. Will be an amazing feeling
/r/MGTOW08/08/20 01:03 AM
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It's true that being wealthy really does come with a boat load of problems. I like to be in a place where I'm just comfortable and have some savings so if I lost my job for several months I'd be fine. Much more and you really have to question those close to you a lot more, look over your shoulder, etc
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 10:40 PM
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Eh to be fair I'm only divorcing now so not spending a lot of 1 on 1 time with other females was kinda the right thing to do when I was married
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 10:37 PM
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Yup. There are some I actually enjoy working with and are decent human beings. Some people here take it too far. There are a couple I'd almost consider friends but make a point not to spend time with them outside the office
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 05:51 PM
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Yup. That's what happened. Always planned on waiting at least a couple years but pressured me and even though I'm nornally a worrying type I threw cuation to the wind this once... Damn. Then or course I don't believe in divorce . Would think wow things getting better. Have a kid, get worse .. then oh seems like she's really trying... Another kid then I'm dog shit. Yeah. Took me 7-8 years before I started walking up and after 10 years we are finally finalizing the divorce. Feel like an idiot but …
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 01:35 AM
3

Another lie that gets repeated enough that it becomes 'truth' despite common sense saying the opposite... 'boobs are.not sexual.. guys shouldn't be creeps'. That one drives me nuts. Of course they're sexual. Women get aroused when dudes play with them.. boob jobs are a huge industry.
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 09:28 PM
3

Yeah there are an awful lot of lies perpetuated to try to discredit Christianity and sadly when it's repeated enough people start to believe it. Almost every eastern country tries to claim credit for Jesus wisdom saying he went through for x amount of years to study when he was literally just growing up at home learning to be a carpenter. Not surprising the Bible didn't feel the need to expand on it. Some people try to say he had a wife etc.. none onfit had any evidence and would make any sense …
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 06:15 PM
2

As someone who I'd about to become a single dad hopefully some correction might help me... Hoping the value of my money increases but might just be a pipe dream
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 03:35 PM
5

Already feels like this is starting. Since starting work from home there has been no OT but deadlines as tight as ever. Since you're already home everyone just been throwing in an extra hour or two on many days. Noe we get near end of projects they bid low or client just asking for more and more and it's now at point you're being asked to basically work all weekend 'to do what needs to be done' with no pay. And now we can't even pay you 40 hours because we are out of budget. If quit but my job p…
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 03:34 PM
4

Yup exactly. And the 'vixtim' is actually the instigator
/r/MensRights06/08/20 03:38 AM
5

False sense of security.. happens all the time. They think they're literally untouchable because society says so. Anytime a guy retaliates it's such a shock. You might think about punching a grizzly in the face (exaggeration here) of you thought a whole bunch of grizzlies around would immediately swarm him the moment he started getting threatening.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 03:25 AM
4

If anything it's increased domestic violence. Might look better on reports but at least half of DV is from women. It's too easy when the guy feels he can't even defend himself. Hell a big number of reported DV from men is simply defense. I'd say it makes women more likely to do it since they know the law is on their side and I think it anything more guys retaliate as a result since you can only hit someone so many times before instinct takes over. It's like a false sense if security thinking the…
/r/MensRights06/08/20 03:17 AM
8

Are you implying somehow there is more honour in hitting soemone stronger? I'd call that lack of common sense if nothing else. Should you not defend yourself just because they're weaker, as if they can't do damage?
/r/MensRights06/08/20 02:48 AM
9

Sure there are exceptions. Very uncommon. They had this test of punching strength somrhwre that was posted. Even the weakest guys had a stronger punch than like 95% of the women they tested. It's almost always understated how much stronger men are. I'd question even how much stronger most female rugby players are than the average man. Don't know this particular one you mentioned. It seems on average the number is women are only about 2/3 as strong. In other words average man is 50% stronger than…
/r/MensRights06/08/20 02:42 AM
11

Reality is men ARE much stronger than women.. aside from the fact humans should never lay hands on other humans isn't that like double the reason they should keep their hands off guys instead of a hall pass? Like if a little dude attacks a big dude isn't our thoughts that he's really asking for it? We aren't saying he should get off free or the bigger dude shouldn't defend himself because he's small
/r/MensRights06/08/20 02:33 AM
6

Yeah screw this. My wife wanted to leave and have been dealing with lawyers during this while working 60+ hours a week. She's out gardening all day while kids just play with the neighbours kids. After 12 hour workdays I still get the boy ready for bed (usually get him ready in morning). She goes out to get supplies and have kids interrupting Mr while she's gone on little fun errands. Work is taking advantage of employees since things are slow right now. Basically putting in all the extra hours f…
/r/MensRights06/08/20 02:30 AM
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It's like what some say around here. Doesn't matter whether it's loving, fighting, or just flat out made up drama... They just need attention period. They get bored after a while. No joke when I was married it would be quiet for a while and I'd start to think man maybe things will be ok after all.. then it would be like why haven't you taken the time to talk about our problems .. and by that she meant let's spend an hour or two where I just list everything you'd done wrong over the last 10 years…
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 01:27 AM
4

Varies from person to person. Personally money means very little to me other than I just want to be 'comfortable', which for me requires the basics and some rainy day money. Solid friendships, family, hobbies are what really matter to me.. though I do find a certain pride in my work.. although satisfaction going downhill.. lately they've taken advantage of me big time.. shady as hell. I can understand how some may feel good looking back if they have made a real impact. Personally I think that fa…
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 01:09 AM
54

Rip another chameleon bites the dust. Funny when she says these women are all educated etc. I'm thinking that's the problem. As soon as they get a certain education level (and she me of the left wing indoctrination along with it) they think they're hot shit and no guy is food enough for them. They actually think guys value that the same way they do
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 11:27 PM
29

Even then do you really need to be 'better'? In some cases you just need to be new and exciting
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 03:35 PM
2

Good riddance. Dude is an idiot. Shouldn't be paying for idiots mistakes. Clearly you don't have much in common with him I mean.. if one of my friends randomly attacked a stranger im supposed to have his back? That's essentially what you're asking. Your friend attacked this guy completely unprovoked.. why would anyone support that? That's assault
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 02:39 PM
0

Most marital rape is bs imo. It you get violent then that's just domestic violence more often than not. If you marry someone sex is expected so I don't buy 'he coerced and pressured me into it when I wasn't in the mood' being called rape.not saying a guy has never physically forced his wife to have sex... Just that usually you could also poiint out that he's physically abusive outside of the bedroom and that simply pressuring when she's uncomfortable in a marriage isn't rape imo.
/r/Divorce_Men05/08/20 02:30 PM
1

Strange. Worked as a designer at EPCMs for several years. Spouses were never invited to team building events and nobody thought to bring them other than Christmas parties. Dude sounds way too codependent. You'd think itd be nice to have a night out without your spouse or kids from time to time
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 02:24 PM
1

The other half are white knights hoping she will take notice and get out of the friend zone
/r/MensRights05/08/20 01:30 AM
1

Nope don't hate women. Just don't trust some of them. You might be right some of this still around. I know it's changing. Pretty sure my brother in law does a lot around the house.. I think he does most of the cooking as I recall he's pretty good at that. My other sister I couldn't see her doi g much around the house. Pretty sure her ex did as well. Hear more stories of the millenial generation women who can't cook. My comment about gym was just difference in rolling up the sleeves. Find many do…
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 01:29 AM
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In today's society we don't want to call anything mental illness. It might offend someone. Have to validate everyone's and I mean everyone's lifestyle even if they're living a delusion
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 06:31 PM
1

Think that's changed a lot but can go both ways. A lot of confusion of roles these days. Used to be guys worked, women did stuff around house. Now more women are working and more men are chipping in around the house to offset. Selfish people want to have their cake and eat it. Some guys expect same traditional roles at home despite working and some women still want to sit on their ass at home and expect help around the house because other husbands (who's wives work) do it. I fell into the later …
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 06:30 PM
3

Yup. She was actually a good cook before marriage. Meals for so lazy even when she was at home and I was working. Eventually when second kid came around I think she started putting a bit of effort back in but always complained and wanted to offer to cook from time to time. She would still send second kid off to daycare a couple days a week. My parents were reluctant to visit (found out later) because they knew she'd be sitting or lying down with her laptop on her and asking me to do things or te…
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 06:25 PM
2

Pretty sure my ex wife had some kind of mix. Her mom was def npd. She was all about status, looked down and tried to intimidate people who were 'beneath her'. Her own siblings were afraid of her. Ex was becoming more and more like her but had already dealt with depression and stuff because her mom would beat her I'd things weren't just right and call her tainted because she was darker like her father. Yeah unfortunately much damage from her mother and quiet frankly I just wasn't equipped to deal…
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 06:18 PM
5

Yup had the same mindset. I remember whenever my parents visited and id be alone with them I'd be acknowledging that yes I didn't like the way she talked or treated me but I'd still find myself justifying and defending her. Heck id even hear her voice in my head saying oelase don't throw me under the bus.. from the odd time she got wind I didn't defend her. So much has been said from my family now that the cats out of the bag and we are divorxing. Like them wanting to visit (which they did once …
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 05:03 PM
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Pretty darn sure many of the women condemning her behaviour would do the same shit I'd it was their house. It's their nature to control every facet of the house. That's why guys brat about their man caves... I have been there myself...
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 03:28 PM
2

As it is it's going to be tough making it month to month. Losing almost a couple thousand bucks... Well not like I had that much at the end of the month before .. maybe a few hundred. Sure I am more frugal than the stbx... but we weren't paying rent/mortgage either which will be another 1k. Def have to find some major savings... Which I know I can do. Supporting a family of 4 on one income was tough already. Child support and rent is still gonna be half my oay cheque.
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 10:39 PM
3

Don't think that is possible unless they agreed to a bunch of section 7 stuff or they used to make way more and a higher salary was imputed. For me my child support will be a bit more than 1/4 of my after tax income. But spousal could be another few hundred. Section 7 is anything above like food and shelter and is supposed to be split based on income.. it's kinda honour system though. Both sides have to agree it's necessary. Still quite a bit. Could be close to half my oay cheque when it's all s…
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 10:26 PM
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I agree. As a parent I'm having a hard time seeing how any kid needs more than a fee hundred a month for basic needs. You can add a couple hundred maybe for hungry teenagers
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 05:26 PM
19

Is it not 100% set based on income? I know here in Canada there is nothing open to negotiation when it comes to child support. Alimony is different but still has an upper or lower recommendation
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 05:25 PM
17

They'd probably somehow get out of it. In engineering and design for oil and gas 10% of the people do 90% of the work. I think it's that way in every industry. Although with things so slow last few years those 10% are increasingly becoming all that's left. I'm sick of it personally. Just spent entire damn weekend working for free basically. Hung it up at 1230 and started again at this morning. This shit happens when it slows right down and some spreadsheeters put a low bid and then everyone stuc…
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 03:00 PM
1

Appreciate it and trust me... I would never even think about anything more than friendships at this point. I just shake my head at the guys on divorce Reddit... I just finished getting half my crap taken a few months ago.. butthole still sore, barely making it month to month but I've met this new amazing woman! Like dude how can you be so eager to have more?
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 02:55 PM
4

Yeah working for an epcm and it sucks when you figure out how they bill people out at. Pay you $40 an hour but bill you out at least $100+. That's even after this downturn. I remember when I was told my old company on this project just flat billed every head at $150 an hour . A few they lost a bit on I'd they were senior engineers but this had a lot of copy scope so many junior/intermediate designer/drafters making 25-50 an hour
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 06:55 AM
2

Every now and the. You'll see someone hurt really bad who will go a bit far, but for the most part it's just fair criticism.. wouldn't be a big deal if it was said about men. Otherwise people talking about investments, success, hobbies, etc
/r/MGTOW03/08/20 06:28 AM
3

Personally I'll forget for weeks but after say a couple months I'll see something and it'll just drive me crazy. Ill often fap and the be good for several more weeks
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 11:12 PM
3

About as well as you'd expect.. still finalizing the divorce. Naturally she thinks she should be the primary parent and take 75% of everything. My lawyer says nah you aren't gonna be a visitor to your kids Nd get every 2nd weekend treatment. That ain't happening with an involved father
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 10:04 PM
3

Yup no need to feel pressured to date again. Often it is so one sided. You get these posts from girls Bout find a man who will treat you this way, that way, who will look at you like this dog. Never the other way around. You'll save a lot of money, time, energy just focusing on your goals, hobbies, etc. All you need I'd a solid group of friends and things to keep busy and you won't feel so lonely. That creeps in when you're sitting there bored I would thini. Before marriage I had thoughts about …
/r/MensRights02/08/20 08:52 PM
9

Even then... she will be a total Karen then get mad that you didn't stand up for her. Was always a bigger, athletic guy but also a very good student. My ex wife always saw me as a failure because I was a top student through public school and past secondary but did a Diploma at a tech school. Of course also from a typical Asian family where with the cousins the guys all go to be doctors and the girls are I law school lol. Think i got worst of both worlds. That and she was a cunt who could never b…
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 07:41 PM
11

That's the thing. Testosterone = sex drive.. so that young, dum, full of cum is more true than you realize. It's why even Chad's aren't immune to simping. The more you work out, the more testosterone you have. So even us guys who are hitting the gym hard have to contest with an increased sex drive and hormones. Don't let it go to your head. Post nut clarity may be needed here
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 04:39 PM
10

Very true. I was young and naiive. Ended up getting snagged by a woman several years older than me.. even said guys her own age were 'too set in their ways'. Wifed her up and all. Was pretty clear to many others I think that I was just being exploited. Took me too many years a f a couple kids later to wake up
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 04:36 PM
3

Also funny/sad in today's society that if you've reached adulthood and haven't had sex that you must have something wrong with you (you couldn't possibly have chosen not to). Afterall a person's who status is based on your sexual conquests right? At one point it used to be considered virtuous... But seems that's shamed more than being a slut now or more socially acceptable. Bring a slut actually hurts people (including the person being a slut I think) but being a virgin hurts ... Nobody? I guess…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 04:19 PM
7

And here I was thinking I was the only guy with the mindset of... If you arent familiar and close enough with the person to potentially raise a child with them you should think twice about having sex with them, even if the chance is very small with protection. People there days equate sex as something akin to breathing, drinking eating. Like you'll die without it, it's a basic human right/need.. can't possibly exercise self control or save it for someone special (ok that last part becoming more …
/r/MGTOW02/08/20 04:01 PM
9

Slut shaming isn't a bad thing imo, especially since in today's age you really have to sleep around a lot to fall into that category. Used to keep society from falling too far into degeneracy and STDs/unwanted (teenage) pregnancy wasn't as common. Society was better when sleeping around wasn't celebrated and actually looked down upon. Convince me otherwise. And I think that that goes for guys too. Only difference is one guy will share a few girls and have more than one baby momma and one guy wit…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 02:51 PM
2

Oh look there's a bitch... Theres a dog in the picture too
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 08:19 PM
12

Was number 5 but will be 6 here. Haven't finalized divorce and move out but when I'm not working like 60 hours gonna prob just get up real early and tell her she will have to manage the kids u til sometime in afternoon. Tried bringing my daughter along but she's not real into it. To add to #5.... The guy has a kid on his back and constantly waiting for his out of shape wife who is huffing and puffing . The other kid is somewhere in between or encouraging out of shape mom. Dad is rolling his eyes…
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 07:34 PM
9

Wants to call people incels and ban. Would be funny if everyine went there and spammed dude with comments calling him a sump it a cuck. Seems seagall might be one too
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 06:59 PM
2

I'd venture to guess you could injure someone pretty good by throwing them as well. I know I threw some other kids pretty hard to the ground. Id say in general though they're kids. Most things they would do to each other they'd shake off. It's when you're well into your teens or adulthood when people start losing teeth, people get brain damage, etc.
/r/MensRights31/07/20 09:38 PM
28

Gotta say I'm always skeptical of like third hand accounts of how this person or that person is supposedly really a genius. Like Kesha? Really? I dunno... Some of these it's like.. show me the receipts
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 09:00 PM
12

He's right because men of quality who aren't self depreciating realize 'equality' would either mean we are getting additional rights to compensate or they'll be losing some of that privledge they have
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 08:44 PM
11

Can confirm. The ex would have had a fit if it wasn't just where she wanted but she was also organized enough it have labels on most with the room and all But good grief ... Shr has to buy a bunch of crap even before the move. We had like 6 bookcases in our condo living room to go to the Hosur we were moving into. Rented like 15' uhaul for that 2 bedroom condo and still had to make several trips in the station wagon... And when we moved from our house (think 1700 sq ft + basement?) We had a huge…
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 05:37 PM
3

Thought we were talking about 'how dare you' whatever her name is again ehibwij an offshoot award lol
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 02:20 PM
6

Yup. Just not worth the risk. Even the married couples I knew that were still together after years were 'comfortable' at best. Not great, but civil enough no reason to leave, main source of happiness was kids, but had given up doing a lot if things that they really enjoyed. That's best case scenario that iv seen... More often then bkt that nice couple at church have almost divorced in the past and oh man if I read between the lines and watch how they interact I don't think she respects him much.…
/r/Divorce_Men31/07/20 01:54 PM
1

Well I guess they're right. with my ex wife could never do anything right and everything about me constantly needed to be fixed... So hell yeah I'm running away. Not gonna go through that again. Just leave me as is 🤣
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 11:33 PM
2

Yup. Not the other person's job to keep you constantly entertained like some damn child and if you're not always happy you need to take some damn ownership. If they're kind and loving it's probably just you
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 03:14 AM
12

Think it's pretty damn hard to out the cat in the bag at this point. People in general just too entitled and selfish. The girls on social media even more so. I actually think the modern fairy tale of marrying for love and having someone you're always excited to see has ruined it. Those feelings can't last forever. Look on /r divorce... so many posts that they're leaving a good guy, but wasn't exciting anymore... Felt too familiar, more like a roommate etc. It's not realistic to expect you don't …
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 02:50 AM
3

More like 50-60.... Getting paid for 40 though. This industry sucks sometimes. Some guy estimates hours and make it lower and lower when times get tough and then you're caught holding the bag. Will be 0 soon. Maybe will help me as we finalize divorce unless she wants to wait lol
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 02:42 AM
3

I'm similar in that sense but was also very naiive when I married in early 20s even broke some of my own rules. I mean she was several years older and was in a huge rush to marry , or at least was initially and is went with it. Still naiive in some ways in my mid 30s. Just another reason I'd never get involved again... I too often assume the best in people and I'm a sucker for damaged goods I think.. somehow think I'm equipped to help them
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 12:47 AM
2

Pretty much. At one point society had enough common sense to realize people just sleeping around wasn't a good thing, and it wasn't just the religious ones... Now it's blatantly feigning ignorance.. well that and out society says if it's good for you then it's good for you (that goes with anything). A woman who thinks they're a man.. we no longer say it's a mental illness, nope feels good so must be valid. Instead of helping you, maybe talking through some childhood trauma or whatever we are gon…
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 12:03 AM
9

Yup. I'm living proof. Sure as hell didn't seek one out on purpose but as as hell ended up with one.. of course like many strong independent types she expects to take far more than her share and expects me to keep supporting here as much as possible and somehow now work after divorce. Wants all the benefits of marriage without being married
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 09:17 PM
2

Damaging to either gender imo
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 09:16 PM
8

Lol the comment a few down...basically thinks men should pay an indefinite rental few on their uterus. Yeah I'd question if the video referenced is even a good representation. Most couples I know (and myself until I finally cut her off as were divorcing) Shar a common account. I also know many guys frustrated that their wives basically stop f working after marriage (myself included).
/r/MensRights29/07/20 08:02 PM
3

Sounds like bullshit to me and hopefully any reaosnable judge would agree.. I can already see they'll say the daughter is taking the debt with her so you'll have to fork over 20k of your assets for a debt shell never be asked to repay. My ex has a rich family who gave her lots of money for renos and to live mortgage free... Well no she's claiming all this money is a loan and she is in theory going to be paying them back 100s or thousands and so guess was who wants not just the house, which I was…
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/20 07:22 PM
17

I've always thought nobody should be able to make this decision until they're an adult. Until there isn't any law against it the doctors will just follow the law. I hear all this talk about how hormones should be taken as early as possible etc.. but reality is your brain just isn't even down developing. Better to not take anything in case you decide hey... I'm actually not upset with how I was born
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 07:18 PM
41

Had this old church friend... Had known him for years.. never had a girl.. one day starts dating this guy's sister who is from a small town. Breaks up with her. My wife at the time, who I was already having huge issues with and I'm alreayd thinking divorce is inevitable, asks him why. Get this.... Says because she was too submissive... Was also I guess because she was uneducated, had visions of being a house wife, etc. if he was actually worried about divorce rape from sahw I would get it but no…
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 06:53 PM
24

It's amazing the hamster spinning and white knighting in there... Do people really need a scientific study to realize that sleeping with multiple different people a week or even a month is damaging and will effect long term bond in marriage where you settle down with just one person? I feel they're arguing just for the sake of arguing or really just in denial and want to keep living a hedonistic life. What's next? Water is wet. Source please!
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 06:26 PM
1

Just being a grunt I agree.. but I actually kinda wish outta school I'd taken one of their engineering routes instead of doing it in tech school. Been seeing a lot if adds where you can start working on fire systems electronics and then learn a bunch of other skills and specialize. You just know after spending several years in military and coming out that you'd be well connected and be off to a good start. Having it on your resume would be great too. I'd recommend it to someone coming kut of sch…
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 04:22 PM
5

Not to mention she's upset that the bf isn't testing back....
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 02:00 PM
2

Know how you feel. Mine was already reduced to half time when we married. Never took the hint to look for a new job. Lost it a year later... Never bothered going back to work, citing lingering back pain from a horse fall... A couple years after that have our daughter.. could have collected a year of mat leave... Son is 4 years younger... Wanted her to work at least a year so she could have another year or mat leave.... Pretty much kenw we would be divorcing beginning of last year... Still didn't…
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/20 01:38 PM
12

Eh I mean sure it feels amazing and has other benefits for general well being. It's nowhere near as amazing it's it's hyped up to be though and its so temporary like eating a really good meal. Is it worth all the hoops guys Juno through? No
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 03:10 AM
3

Kinda feel similar, but hoping will turn around soon. I'm 34 Really just been the last few years. I was always one if the too students but didn't really know what j wanted to do. Did a two year diploma program and seemed I was doing just as well as my sis who is a nurse. First decade was great and things looked promising . Last few years oil and gas has been terrible. Lost job end of 2015. Was off for several months and then a basic drafting job for a year. Back to oil and gas for same money as …
/r/MGTOW29/07/20 02:57 AM
7

Funny how the main headline says support only goes to one kid... No just means mama only gets half really Only in today's society does shit like this happen. The chances are so rare but with today's whores they overcome the odds. Guess it'll became a bit less rare as we sink deeper
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 09:50 PM
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So obviously when women are younger and at their best a few guys get all of it.. % of women much higher then men. So Chad's getting it all. Funny how the tables turn after 40... Although I would have thought to begin with that women would be the only ones to actually call it exercise. I mean those calorie counts are basically nothing and I find girls idea of exercise is basically nothing
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 05:30 PM
-10

Listing people's nudes online is shitty. No need to defend it... I would say most reasonable and rationale people realized years ago that sending nudes through email/text, especially if you don't know them that well is a terrible idea to begin with. Don't know why stuff like this would.br a surprise to anyone. It's almost as bad as uploading something online then expecting to get it removed.
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 03:30 PM
7

That's the same conclusion I came to. When you start with year there is never any doubt
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 02:46 PM
8

My neighbour posted on the Facebook community group. Uhhh is it allowed here for women to be topless in the park outside our house? Then or course you get feminist or single mom roasties on there like oh it's totally legal (believe technically it isn't, just not enfotced) and this should become normal! Of course the sluts never think of children seeing it or anything. And then or course.. I would totally do this but guys are idiots and would gawk. So yeah or course its our faults.. and you'd thi…
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 02:37 PM
2

Hope so too... Many are thinking it's never going to be the same. People think industry drying up here. Projects are generally smaller. None of these huge open pit nines anymore. Never get approval. Hoping if oil and gas do slow down that they will be mining some other minerals that we can put our skills toward or something. Otherwise gotta figure out how to do a career change while paying child support and find a way to still have time with my kids.
/r/MGTOW28/07/20 01:46 PM
17

Yeah.. divorcing after 10 years of marriage and even 2 kids. My parents would usually visit once a year, but my father admitted at times he wanted to visit but didn't want to see her sitting on her laptop and ordering me around... Sending me text from her room asking me to do this or that. They both said they'd often leave feeling kinds sad. I allowed myself for years to think I wasnt a good enough husband and that I somehow owed her better and justified it.. wasn't until last couple years I rea…
/r/MensRights27/07/20 08:17 PM
3

Only wish she'd slide down another dudes dick. Once she's cohabiting long enough or remarried her combined income would be much higher giving me a big break lol
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/20 07:58 PM
2

I work in oil and gas as an electrical designer. Basically did engineering diploma program at tech school for 2 years, not a bachelor's at uni. For a fee years for stuck doing a lot of drafting.. but more and more sending it overseas for cheaper billing rates. Been slowly moving more into understanding the designing portion more and not needing anyone to mark anything up. I know in my industry it's so up and down. Work a fee years, get laid off for several months, work a few more years. Repeat. …
/r/MGTOW27/07/20 07:26 PM
1

If you're from India or something then yeah. I know in Canada and a lot of other western countries drafting is getting outsourced more and more to India. Our workshare is like close to 50% of our projects and more and more the only jobs needed here are higher level design and engineering to mark up/check drawings.
/r/MGTOW27/07/20 05:24 PM
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Yeah mine threw away a man who vent over backwards for her and it was never enough. She stayed home, even sent youngest to daycare twice a week and still complained. Now that she wants out she doesn't think her lifestyle should change. Wants the fully paid house among other things without giving me anything return (because family gifts.. er 'loans') also expect C's, alimony... Wants to stay on beenfits for 5 years. Has basically no plans to work still. I don't think she applied to anything and w…
/r/MGTOW27/07/20 05:16 PM
1

Was strange when she said in shape, not to skinny but can't be stronger than her ... Does she not realize the really skinny dudes who have trouble keeping on weight are stronger than the majority of women? Does she not realize how big the difference between men and women are? Let alone ones that would be considered in shape. She's got a couple little tummy rolls and arms getting that chubby look. On a side note. That YouTuber seems chill, but he takes a long time to get his words out
/r/MensRights27/07/20 04:18 PM
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Did you just assume my gender ? Lol...let them chew on that one
/r/MGTOW27/07/20 03:48 PM
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Can't be a tall deadbeat? Guess you can but in their eyes you aren't if you're tall inguess. Smart isn't a requirement for a woman. Too much of a bimbo can be a turnoff, but otherwise good looking and kind would be more than. Enough. Sadly kindness goes out the window pretty fast in a committed relationship
/r/MGTOW27/07/20 02:35 PM
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Lol... Also I noticed how he said having mutual respect. Dude... Most women don't really respect guys, especially the type that respect them
/r/MGTOW27/07/20 02:33 PM
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Why wouldn't an amateur be cheaper than a professional?
/r/MGTOW27/07/20 02:31 PM
2

Yup just saying we should be equally responsible, not equally irresponsible. People can think I'm rediculous if they want, but I feel foetus should have rights too... Sure they're not conscious beings, but it will be soon enough and you're taking those rights away pro actively before it's conscious
/r/MensRights26/07/20 10:03 PM
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I mean every time you decide to saddle up with someone there is always an outside chance you have a child. That's where I'm coming from. If you're not willing to take at least a little responsibility like finding a loving family for them then don't have sex with random strangers. If someone commits a crime and spreads your seed without your knowledge. Ok you're absolved. But if it's just two people that are horny they need to realize there are potential consequences. We dismiss how amazing a chi…
/r/MensRights26/07/20 07:57 PM
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He's probably not the most popular kid... Prob have different values than the popular kids. Maybe he's a bit awkward in his teenage years. But who cares? These are the type that have great hearts and actually have their priorities straight. These are the type who are successful later in life and people realize they were wrong about.
/r/MGTOW26/07/20 07:06 PM
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Agreed. Sadly this society thinks it's ok for kids to be having something as serious and full of consequences as sex. Lots of tv shows with young teens having sex (not graphic obviously) that's how normal it's become. Also what the hell do we shame virigins? In this hookup culture it's more of a badge of self control and standards.. I mean everybody is having it at a young age .. even if you're not try most attractive doesn't mean you can't get it somewhere if you really want it. I mean a guy li…
/r/MGTOW26/07/20 07:01 PM
2

I mean I'm the same way for most part, except kids. Problem at least here is she knows she could just inpute that income. She knows I'm on the verge of losing my job and still trying to push this through
/r/MGTOW26/07/20 06:24 PM
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I just wish the expectation was more that both parents should take responsibility... These discussion often end up spiraling into... She can neglect her child so why can't I? If neither want it find a loving couple that does. Otherwise please take responsibility for your actions. This is your child, your blood...
/r/MensRights26/07/20 06:12 PM
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Damn.. feel for the guy. Only a few years younger than me. Free up shy, fell hard for girls who toyed with me more than anything or were too busy jumping from guy to guy. Had a couple sluts like me but not interested. Anyways year mostly heartache for me.. was a sensitive guy even though big tough guy on outside. Took advantage of that. Got married to bad girl who found Jesus and divorcing now. Ever again.. o hope he doesn't have to learn the hard way like me. PS: if he thinks you're an incel re…
/r/MGTOW26/07/20 06:07 PM
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Me and my lawyer had a good laugh at the stbx lawyer proposal. Doesn't want to be married, just wants to keep all the perks. Wants like 75% of assets.. not even disclosing what she has overseas with her rich mom... Wants 5 yesrs of alimony while living in a fully paid large house .. and for calc pits income at half the minimum wage. Wants to be on my work health benefits for next 5 years . Which suggests doesn't plan to try to find a job. Wants to give traditional I'm the parent here you get vis…
/r/MGTOW26/07/20 04:29 PM
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Traditionally and in theory yeah. Fat to ass and tits. But today's modern woman? Hell nah. Thunder thighs, guts, arms... No neck...
/r/MGTOW26/07/20 03:52 PM
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I might dare to go as far as ask him... Shouldn't someone who really cares for you say 'it's unnecessary to spend so much in me when you're unemployed, I appreciate the gesture, but something small and simple would be ebough' or something to that extent?j Just drop the odd thing to get him actually thinking and using his logic and not just hormones
/r/MGTOW25/07/20 05:54 PM
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Alreayd seems to realize she's reduced herself to nothing more than a booty call. Well when you give it up immediately can't out the cat back in the bag
/r/MGTOW25/07/20 05:02 PM
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Was just about to write a similar analogy, but yours is even better. Pretty much sums it up. Sure the criminal is still ultimately to blame, but you can have a bit of wisdom (today people seem to have a lot of knowledge, wisdom not so much) and try not to make yourself an easy target.
/r/MensRights25/07/20 05:00 PM
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Fool me once shame on you.. fool me twice... Hey.. better late than never. Some people never realize marriage isn't worth it. You see those people on their 5th marriage thinking it's gonna work that time. I had to learn the hard way as well. Some young guys these days learning early. Envy them lol
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/20 02:17 PM
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Think I happened to contact me across that blatant sexism Reddit and they had this. Was trying to figure out which one they were mad about... Usually very pro feminist there... Lol
/r/MensRights25/07/20 12:48 AM
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Typical non modest women a challenge and sexually intriguing? So when she's slept with triple digit men I wouldn't say she's challenging and intriguing? When she leaves little to the imagination and everyone has had a go what's left to be intrigued about? As the other poster suggested usually the more sexually 'liberated' ones are often the ones who are actually least comfortable with their character and look for validation from sleeping around.. actually none of those things. I know plenty that…
/r/MGTOW24/07/20 04:21 PM
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Pretty sure a bias still exists.. for sure it does with custody despite what some might say. And good luck or your wife makes more than you. That's the demographic almost guaranteed to divorce statistically. You're no longer much use in your primary role as a provider and they don't need you as much
/r/MensRights24/07/20 03:39 PM
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They really don't want to play this game.... Guys have a higher sex drive due to testosterone. I mean we all know once guys are trapled in marriage the pressure to perform is gone. Better let the folks in deadbedrooms know. Almost sounds like a troll but media is trying to normalize cuckholdery
/r/MensRights24/07/20 03:37 PM
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Was pretty sure my stbx also fell in there somewhere. There was a period of time she tried getting physical to shut me up when she was angry. I'm also much bigger and I really dodged a bullet a couple times (no didn't hurt her, but gave some warnings.. eventually learned not to go there) It is bullshit and they know nobody would believe you
/r/MensRights23/07/20 10:16 PM
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Yeah sounds like Texas is more fair and actually takes this stuff into account
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/20 07:51 PM
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Actually it's surprisingly easy for me. Think I grieved the loss of it a couple years ago. The writing was all on the wall and when I realized how much she used me, especially when she stopped even trying after second kid, I realized she wasn't who I thought she was. I started to realise how useless she was and while she never saw my value others did. You can only give someone ultimatums so many times before eventually it's like meh go ahead. I've alreayd liced through enough divorced in my head…
/r/MGTOW23/07/20 03:16 PM
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We are in exact same situation... Neither one of us want to get a tenant for the condo again just to break even.. so we are selling it with no profit basically just to clean our hands of it. It sucks because if things were better we'd make a bit on it, but no idea how long we might have to hold it. We tried to sell a few years ago too but weren't gonna make much profit so rented out again
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/20 02:23 PM
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Trying to figure out the heck you got more custody than she did and how you got out of child support... I have heard Texas is a bit more fair to guys... In Canada her dipshit lawyer proposed the every second weekend crap and every wed from when I pick them up to 8pm... Like yeah I'll sign right up to play taxi to rush them home, Fred them, then ship them to you... Are you paying me for that service?
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/20 02:20 PM
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Good grief.. just got a proposal from her dipshit lawyer who seems bush league. Got the Fri night to Sunday night every second weekend... And then they out every Wednesday... Get this... After school until 8pm... Like yeah.. I'll pick rush them home, get food in their belly and send them right over! That means you can sit on your ass and just enjoy having them. Feel like I should be paid to do that lol. Still trying to figure out why I shouldn't get 50/50. Sure logistics will be hard . Might be …
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/20 02:06 PM
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Society was much better as a whole when people actually had shame and were called out for immoral brhaviour
/r/MGTOW23/07/20 02:02 PM
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Yeah and I'm sure noe in hindsight she never did love me As a naiive you g man thought she must love me if she wants to marry. Why would you marry someone you don't love. Didn't realize she just wanted to find a 'provider', someone to have kids with and a house. Didn't realize til far too late I was just being used.
/r/MGTOW23/07/20 01:51 PM
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You're rifht that alimony isn't always awarded or accepted. There are statistics in an article my lawyer gave me about that. It's an antiquated system but often determined some is fair for giving up career... Which we all know if often bs, they just don't wanna work even before kids. Child support is mandatory if you have kids. If it's close to equal parenting time it can be based on difference in salaries.. I know here any less than 12 days a month and it's essentially calculated as if they had…
/r/MGTOW23/07/20 05:03 AM
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Yeah I was shy but a lot of them looked at me like that, at least the ones I knew well. I'd hear of some of the younger sluts and stuff having a thing for me but not interested. I'd probably say o was getting more interest as an independent adult, but was eye opening some of the interest I seemed to get from coworkers and stuff once I had that ring on my finger. One would even ask to see the ring and say she was lucky.. was still a bit naiive until one coworker told me another was asking if some…
/r/MGTOW23/07/20 03:21 AM
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I had to learn the hard way. Busted my ass for years to try and make a wife happy until it seemed just trying harder didn't work, to realizing the gosl posts always moved and I asked very little out of her ever, to realizing things only ever seemed to be going well when she wanted something, to realizing if she leaves this is it for me, speaking with a mate who had some marital issues and realized marriage is bs and doesn't have much benefit for men. Yeah was reading some things online around th…
/r/MGTOW23/07/20 02:08 AM
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Unfortunately bringing it up is one of those things that will just never end well. If it was the other way around it's possible the father would be willing to humble himself and admit he messed up and day sorry you had to see me so that. But in society it's ok for women to hit if they're angry enough and hormones... And in all honesty I find women are often less willing to admit they're wrong, especially when emotionally charged. They will defend to the death what they did because the alternativ…
/r/MensRights22/07/20 11:32 PM
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Yeah I tend to take a more personal approach in sharing things like that with friends and family. I try to affect my own little bubble where I can. I find trying to convince people on the internet a bit too exhausting at times
/r/MensRights22/07/20 10:09 PM
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Love what you're doing there. Most of them a little too set in their way to change their minds but funny to see how triggered they get when shown some hypocrisy. Was just reading about the will smith one. Sure there are memes of girls crying.. but how many of those are because of something as hurtful as being cheated on? Also I swear half the content there is people who can't accept a little criticism or a bit if an edgy joke
/r/MensRights22/07/20 09:15 PM
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Ughhh... Thanks for reminding me... I'm doing my best with my daughter but I remember when she was alike 4 or 5... Was in neighbours yard.. the boy there one across the street were there and could hear her... How about you guys have a contest or play fight or something like that... And whoever wins gets to marry me. Was playing princess or something. Think i even asked her about it later and teased her about it a bit... Still so young but damn
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 08:58 PM
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To be fair in theory at least nice guys are supposed to be the type that flip the switch from kissing their ass to oh you rejected me well you're an ugly white anyways. I find if you browse that Reddit you'll find some of those mixed in with genuine dudes that are maybe just laying it on a little thick and aren't the best looking. Some posts I've felt sorry for the dude cause he seemed really sincere
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 08:37 PM
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I should say raw dollar wise yes they should shoulder a lot (since they also have 1/3 of America's wealth). I just meant proportion wise it shouldn't be out of whack, just contributing would be a nice start. But as we all know they currently pay almost nothing in taxes in a lot of cases. Everyone goes from one extreme to another like suddenly expecting them to pay even just a few % is communism and they will suddenly all up and leave
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 03:54 PM
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Great move, still can't believe so many people actually drink these energy drinks. Like poison on a can lol not to mention aren't they like sickly sweet? Pretty sure I remember kids that would drink one almost every day. Wonder if they're still alive
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 01:30 PM
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Helped when you had a home base to operate out of and rich family that paid for most expensive leg of the trip.. bit otherwise yes you're right. Just in.mt case opened my horizons up..maybe wouldn't have taken the plunge and went to that side of the world
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 05:37 AM
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Sounds like from one extreme to another.. maybe a much more moderate measure? Somehow I get the feeling they will still avoid paying it. I don't think asking billionaires to shoulder most of the load is fair ..however I don't think asking the middle class to shoulder a disproportionate part of it is either. I know I'm Canada they've shown even 1% of the top 1% would inject billions of tax revenue and isn't going to cause them to pack up and move. That's not too much to ask when as we know they p…
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 11:33 PM
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Yup I also frequent mgtow and understand these things. Used to read a lot of pussypassdenied. Funny stuff
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/20 08:02 PM
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Yup I'd rather be a simple man who spends lots of time in nature and doing his hobbies than a king with too many responsiblities
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 07:51 PM
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Yeah I can't think of a single thing I couldn't do on my own that my ex wife enabled me to do. I can say having in laws overseas gave me a lot of opportunity to travel, but that's about it besides having kids. I'd say it was more like she dragged me down, made me lose contact with friends and even a family member... Also gave up a lot of things I enjoyed doing that I'm starting to get back into now
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 07:50 PM
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I guess the start of it went over my head or didn't get far enough. The start of manipulated man seemed like it was trying to generalize everyone who was more of a giver or so marine who liked to be kind... In a relationship though I absolutely agree. Spend way too much time trying to please them in the hopes to just get some from of acceptance in my case. As my reply to op stated why the heck are guys are saying if only I'd done more when more often than not if you look at their marriage their …
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/20 07:43 PM
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Dammit man never skip leg day... He's gonna be upset again when our Bucs go all in and the sesosn is cancelled. But yeah .. I dunno what to say... I know when my wife left me I'm like good luck to the next guy.. he's gonna need it. I pity the fool
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 07:24 PM
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I dunno I tried reading Mr. Nice guy after hearing so much. Just didn't click with me. Too much at the start trying to label/insinuate ulterior motives for just being a decent human being. Felt a little edgy or presumptive maybe is the word. Didn't get too far Maybe should read the rationale make at some point. I was reading the manipulated man there for a bit and was pretty good from what I had read. Not sure why I didn't continue.
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/20 07:09 PM
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Pretty damn true
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 06:49 PM
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Halfway through when I saw the url for shitty husband's I thought this was gonna be about how it's always the guys fault for not bending over backwards. I was wrong..seems to be doubling down on it. Don't get me wrong... Listening carefully, doing special things and that can elevate a husband from being a decent one who just doesn't get into trouble and a better one .. but these posts about how I was a shitty husband almost always come across as self depreciating and seems to imply you have to c…
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/20 06:47 PM
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Nightmare fuel.... You have these scenarios play in your head and you think no way... That's just worst case scenario. Reality is something not as bad... Jeepers you suffered every last thing a guy would ever worry about. It's amazing you're still making something of it. Good for you and your resiliency. There is a special place in hell for people like her. Good on a mgtow brother for helping you with your plight... Didn't have a lot of options. Just hope if God forbid shit goes south in my own …
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 04:10 PM
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I can see the appeal but I'm just not the type that find much satisfaction out of sex without a close connection with the person. Well that and I'm religious lol so off limits for me. If it weren't for the above I'd still be worried about the 1% chance she's an undercover cop or something and I get busted. May mess up your whole career. I'm the type that always prepares for worst case. Always wondered how others could hook up with strangers knowing there is a very small chance they get pregnant …
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 03:41 PM
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So they're basically just hanging out... Like friends or roommates... He probably pays most of the bills. Sounds like a bad deal. Or course if you think about it even throwing a bit of regular sex on the table doesn't suddenly make it a good deal either. I could understand toughing it out if you have kids.. I certainly tried.. but doesn't sound like it?
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 02:54 PM
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Am I the only one that noticed how she punctuated that? Like it wasn't... Bro fist me! It was... Bro, fist me! She wants someone to fist her.. maybe that's why the sink was volunteering
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 02:14 PM
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Sadly I think I'd you read between the lines it's actually quite simple. Most people that are good looking will have many more opportunities to have sex... And in today's hook up culture they often take them.... After having so many partners they're bout prone to thinking sex isn't such a big deal, they're comparing their spouse to all those others, etc. The opportunity is probably still high since they're good looking. On the other hand today a lot of people who've had very few sexual partners …
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 02:43 AM
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In the process I'd have to give up my career for years and then or course they might still impute an income anyways. It's no wonder some guys feel at end of their rope. Have a feeling my demands and expectations are more than reaosnable though. Don't think it's unreasonable to consider alimony paid lump sum alreayd if she's getting the house. It's definitely the child support that more killer though. Alimony is only a few hundred a month but still makes a big difference. She's living in a large …
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 01:55 AM
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I would be paying a little under 1200 for two kids if it's 70/30 . Which is more than 1/4 of my monthly income. If it's 60/40 it depends on how much is imputed since she hasn't worked for years but would save me a bit if they inspire say 30k vs my 80k. But or course her family could be sending her tens of thousands a year at the same time. The whole thing is bs because she kept taking family from her money to payoff mortgage and wastr lots of money on renos and stuff and noe she's claiming they …
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 01:12 AM
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I actually kinda had to post I disagreed even if the advice was well meaning and popular. I said we all know syories of those guys who constsntly work their tails off and their wife leaves them. I even said myself included. Also that it's grest it if actually works for some couples but for me goal posts just moved and it as never appreciated, in fact that after a certain point she actually started losing respect and seeing me as beneath her.i said I'd it was only that simple many men would still…
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 01:06 AM
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Even when both parties have the best of intentions and protection is used correctly pregnancy can occur. Just keep that in mind. Personally never would have went for a casual hookup even in my blue pill days for that very reason, also STDs. Doesn't matter if it's a 1% chance . Don't want to be that 1/100. In today's hookup culture nobody seems to consider the possibility or they just hjt the old abort button
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 11:57 PM
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No... I find guys are expected to humble themselves and try to constantly improve, but society never seems to expect women to do the same. We'd probably consider it degrading or something to go through those lengths for a man. I know personally it was always my fault, I was always told I should learn from this other guy at church how to be a good husband (meanwhile said guy has his own problems). Never a two way street. Oh and the big uovites for the guy saying shoulder rubs etc . Always have on…
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 11:02 PM
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Have to agree but in all reality you probably aren't speaking about the majority either. The extremists will always be the most vocal.
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 10:31 PM
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You think the 'alpha' doesn't eventually get worn down looking over his shoulder all the time? Fact is if you give them even an inch they take a damn mile. It's like any extremist group. It's not that the rest of people are weak.. it's just that the extremists became so unreasonable and unbearable that eventually the ones who are reasonable start to slip a bit thinking the cost of giving ground a bit on this is less than how costly fighting is is becoming
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 08:03 PM
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Understood. What I was getting at is this garbage that goes around church where the hamster works overtime and its this idea of two people being submitted each other in love (the last line in ephesians there speaking to Christians as a body of believers, not the start of addressing husbands and wives). People read niv see it placed there and think somehow it's mutual submission despite next line talking about wives submitting to husbands. They don't read the context before it and NIV has placed …
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 05:34 PM
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Yeah I'm not the type to get involved unless marriage was still in play. I guess she's like a FWB, but more expensive? I'm pretty committed to my faith so even the sex would be off the table. Again just be careful... Very easy to catch feelings too strongly and think it'll be different.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/20 05:26 PM
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I just personally don't bother. I alreayd have kids.. after being around other married couples enough I realized the only real joy they seem to have after the first few years of marriage is in their children. Sex is nice, but not worth your freedom to act and think however you want without trying to please or not piss someone off, and generally is a depreciating asset that drops off. I just say good luck to those who want to give it another go. Odds are unfortunately even worse every spin
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/20 05:14 PM
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Ok yes you are an exception. And maybe it's generally worse in western society.
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 05:10 PM
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Just be careful.. sometimes it's not until you're even married before the real person comes out. Heck some say not until you are going through the divorce
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/20 04:43 PM
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Yup. Goal posts always moved... The more I changed the more she expected me to change. Was never enough. I never once asked her to change as flawed as she was. When counsellors asked what I needed out of marriage mine wasn't a long list like her... It was basically I just want to be accepted. Of course I realized why the goal posts always moved later. She married me just to have the wedding, be married, have kids, move into a bigger house. Once she got all those things she was checked out.. of c…
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/20 04:42 PM
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Yeah my point I guess was don't expect mercy if you start crap just because you're weaker. Like you said if you're gonna dish it out be willing to accept what comes back. Actions have consequences
/r/MensRights20/07/20 04:24 PM
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Yup as an adult I've never had a reason to fight and would avoid if possible.. having said that. If a much smaller weaker dude tries something I'm more likely to think lol what a dumbass biting off more than he can chew.. time to show him not to pick on someone twice his size... If he's much bigger it's like damn I don't wanna fight this guy. I dunno I feel like if you're that much weaker you should be that much more aware and controlled or be prepared for the consequences... Not thinking it som…
/r/MensRights20/07/20 04:16 PM
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I'm 34. Never been in boy scouts . But was mad when my stbx was gonna out my daughter in. After doing research it apparently has allowed girls since like almost near the start. So maybe in actually practice was different until recently..but they've had unite with girls in them for decades https://putneys.ca/girls-scouting-scouts-canada-started-going-co-ed-1976/
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 04:03 PM
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Thought when I scrolled down it was gonna say 'whoredrobe' for some reason lol
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 03:31 PM
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Amazing what being part of a group all working side by side with a good leader can do. Track I had an awesome teacher coahx it as well. Really treated me with a lot of respect.. I was a shy kid.. but he drew me out and appreciated me. In fact as a thrower who never grumbled about running he used me as a role model, helped me be a bit more of a leader. He'd join in with a bit of shenanigans as well. All the more reason I worry about this next generation and how fee male teachers there are. In fac…
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 03:22 PM
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Sounds very wholesome and fantastic. Discipline is so incredibly valuable and seems to be lost among youth today. For me personally Karate played a huge part in it. Our sensei was fantastic.. had a PhD in psychology and was like a 2nd father to me and my two best friends who grew up in the same block. Later got into track and field... Once I left town wasn't the same but took up going to the gym. Disciplining my body, mind, spirit has always been so important... All linked too. One of the first …
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 03:15 PM
7

You didn't realize she's only 12
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 02:32 PM
0

Like underboob is a sage that I should be getting life advice from. To be fair I think if either gender gets verbally/emotionally abused enough it could make someone tempted. I've been tempted... When you hit rock bottom and feel worthless and that attractive coworker gives you that utmost respect, laughs a little too hard at your jokes and all that it can be intoxicating. Although actually getting meeting them outside work, getting physical and all that still seems like a big jump to Mr and nev…
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 02:31 PM
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Pffd think I can shave like 18 minutes off that my man! :)
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 02:26 PM
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Sadly in Canada we've basically never had an all boys space. Scouts has had both for a long time, even though or course Guides don't have boys. Never heard of Boys Brigade
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 02:23 PM
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Women always justify why they don't have to. I will follow what he says unless I think it's stupid or I have a better idea. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, a…
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 02:10 PM
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I know at least in Canada when it's 60/40 child support is split based on difference in income. That's 12 days a month. As soon as you go 11 days it becomes 100%/0% I'm terms of support obligations. Surprise surprise... She thinks I should have them 10 days a month. Nevermind the fact her family are millionaires and she's keeping the fully paid house... Greedy as hell.. still wants spousal support too. Trying to think about what best for the kids bur she clearly isn't and is trying to tell me th…
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 01:50 PM
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Tried to turn a hoe into a housewife. Didn't work for me either... Although not for cheating at Keats as far as I know :p
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 04:08 AM
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I know personally I'll show as a covid divorce stat. Not true in my case though... We pretty much knew beginning of 2019.. but went to one more counsellor Nd came to same conclusion somewhere last fall maybe .. decided have one last Christmas and start divorce in need year.. covid hit then mediation fell through once we started again... Lawyered up so still trying to settle but also about to lose my job... So just waiting on her side to out together an offer but may drag itbot because of my job …
/r/MensRights20/07/20 12:37 AM
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Yeah I have a lawyer. I think 50/50 fairly normal in Canada, but different when they're still quite young. I consulted a few lawyers. A couple flat out said if they're preschool age they stay more with the 'primary caretaker'. The one I hired just said she could tell I was a pretty involved dad and we will see kinds thing. Said when parents talk % she gets concerned about motive but that I sounded reasonable and wanted what's best for them. Cause as much as I want 50/50 I also get that the young…
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/20 11:32 PM
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This. Of course that kind of attention is more appreciated if you find the other person attactive. Having said that if an unattractive women makes passes at me I'm not gonna be so offended or try to make her out to be a bad person.
/r/MensRights19/07/20 07:38 PM
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Yup. I'm gonna be moving into a two bedroom basement once the divorce proceedings are over. She asked for it but I'm so damn relieved. Just hope I can get her to agree to more than the 70/30 she keeps insisting on or that she really holds true to the 50/50 once our youngest is in gr 1. In reality logistics gonna be hard with my industry as well. She was my dream girl and I was pretty damn loving towards her for 7 or 8 of the 10 years.. but eventually even I woke up to her true nature and how lit…
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/20 03:56 PM
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I don't understand how guys like you three can say my wife is screwing this really old guy, this really young guy, this sexual predator and say them leaving wasn't a good thing. Especially if they were also that ruthless in the divorce. At some point you gotta realize they aren't what you thought. I understand not wanting to be a part time dad though. That was my biggest reservation. Your stories sadly aren't that uncommon though. Can be tough to let go
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/20 03:48 PM
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Lol same... I got a bit if hear and climbed walls once a week for maybe a few months til I got a stress fracture in foot... Everyone else kinds stopped going shortly after a d haven't gone in years. Mostly cause of marriage a bit later. Would love to get back into it now that I'm gonna be free and single
/r/MGTOW19/07/20 03:39 PM
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Yup mine was a professional. Maybe apologized 4 or 5 times in our 10 year marriage. Maybe... None in Last few years... think half were when she brought me to tears before I started to become more numb. She could be really cruel but of course if I said anything back krnhad wrong tone of voice everything became my fault. expected me to apologize on at least a weekly basis
/r/MGTOW19/07/20 03:32 PM
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Same. Most of my childhood was mind games and bullshit. I never wanted to play Nd was kinda shy. Had more 'luck' in my early adulthood... But got catfished by one.. another was too insecure and hurt me before wanting me back.. but couldn't trust her. Was probably the best of the bunch. But was better just hanging out, playing ledt4dead at het house and not dealing with that . My wife was a mess with way too much baggage I took on. Was always my fault e en though what she really needed some some …
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 06:37 PM
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My ex was never into that... She did buy into that essential oils crap though... Also for a while was running Nepal salt lamps... And had these lifewave patches that were suppose to relieve pain based on ions or something. Yeah have no idea why women are so gullible. When people say they're grown children it's hard to argue sometimes
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 05:37 PM
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We were somewhat split but that's only because she didn't even work lol. When i got home she would often have dinner started but otherwise she was basically off the rest of the day. Weekends I def took more than my share. I often worked linger days too
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 04:39 PM
1

Eh it's not like the movies I don't think. For the result accessible diy dna tests you need to actually swab the cheek to get a reliable result. Been actually thinking to double check my own kids but to get the kit, get cheek seabs and all that pretty hard to do discretely until I've moved out. Those other methods usually aren't readily available for people without court orders or reasons to get governemnt labs involved I don't think. If kiss dna showed a different ethnic background altogether I…
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 06:57 AM
3

I'll be honest. I don't think THE WORLD cares much. I worry about the men falsely accused, for those divorce raped (I can sympathize personally on this) and I think it's good to be aware and have a safe place to maybe vent, keep awareness up... Do I expect we are going to see real change anytime soon? Not really. All we can do is try to help a fellow man out in our own communities, impact the world around us. I have no grand plans to topple the system. It's the same story with George Floyd, syst…
/r/MensRights17/07/20 10:45 PM
3

Yeah a teacher that apparently doesnt have the ability to tell their student what's appropriate and what isn't or exercise any sort of authority despite being in a position of authority as a job... Hmm
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 09:23 PM
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Sounds kinda fake... I really hope it is lol. Sounds hard to believe.. also did she get his dna sample somewhere or did it show a different ethnic mix or something?
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 09:16 PM
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Problem is it's hard to prove.. carries very little tangible evidence. I agree it can be just as bad as any physical abuse. There were times in my marriage I felt completely worthless and had feelings like things would be better for her and the kids if I wasn't around.. until I thought more and realized the kid still need their dad. That and I'm just not the type to be suicidal. There's a difference between thinking there is no need for you, or that things would be less complicated if one of you…
/r/MensRights17/07/20 07:54 PM
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Amazing the stories they will come up with... Oh I accidentally sent one then kept sending because I didn't want to upset him. Oh he sent some bXk and I asked for more because I didn't want to upset him
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 06:38 PM
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I dunno. Personally I find the ability to summarize your thoughts seems to be a lost art. A lot if what people say, particularly on social media (could be just the type of personality that likes to hear themselves talk or think they're profound) can be said in much fewer words, unless they really are a technical expert at something complex
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 05:58 PM
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This is why I don't watch these YouTube personalities. I'd watch it I'd he could summarize his poiint in 10-15 minutes. My time is too valuable to spend an hour watching this. I have 1-2 hours of downtime a day and would rather watch anime or play ps4 with that hour or two lol Apologies if it's a poster on here... Just have to really lick and choose what I spend time on it's like how I generally don't watcj movies anymore because if I have 2 hours all at once to sit down I'd rather play a game
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 05:22 PM
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That's an actual quote? Damn. Every time I hear him speak lately I just wanna shake his hand. I'm not retired yet but trying to finalize divorce and yeah I can alreayd feel the not giving a damn coming on. Only ones I have to give re my kids really. He also sounds like he looks at the world in the same fashion as I do. Sounds like a simple, grounded dude who enjoys the simpler things.. although settlers is a decent game. Would love to grab a beer with him, just south of the border not far lol
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 04:32 PM
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Was literally just listening to that part of Proverbs.. listen to the daily Bible and the daily stoic as I go about my work in the mornings
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 04:30 PM
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Oh trust me.. I value character far more. Just reflecting on a sad reality of the world we live in. If you're a very good looking person everyone bends over backwards for you, life is easy mode.. yeah eventually it will go away, prob after you've made large amounts of money. Yes money isn't everything and reality is your relationships will be shallow, you won't know how to do things yourself, it ultimately won't fulfill. You're preaching to the choir
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 03:57 PM
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All the more reason you don't send this kinds stuff through text lol
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 03:02 PM
2

Good grief. Had this rage inducing Facebook post on our community neighbourhood group. Some woman was topless in the park. Women are on there saying oh I'd do it too if men weren't such creepy or idiots that gawked at us. Like sure it's the man's fault for noticing when you objectify yourself like that.... Not to mention I have a daughter who I'd rather not learn to degrade herself like that and give the wrong message. All the women who are scantily clad are bad enough
/r/MensRights17/07/20 02:30 PM
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Sadly being a beautiful person would likely get him further in life
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 02:24 PM
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He's already got on former wife still leeching off him so what does he do? Let's another leech in need of some money to pay medical bills and her bad decisions with another man and he eats it right up. Jeez they're not even married.. why is he financially supporting them? A girlfriend is nothing and can be gone tomorrow (yeah wife's too, but in theory there is a commitment). Some dudes just love handing over money I guess. I'm willing to bet the dialysis patient was about to up and leave when he…
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 02:20 PM
1

I know here in Canada child care, extra curricular, basically anything above food and clothing falls under section 7. All these expenses are based on proportion of income so if pay 70% of any of these things. Of course I have to agree they're important and our kids should be in them or she's on her own. Like if she wants them to keep going to private school i already told her I can't afford it and they'll go to public unless her rich mom wants to keep paying for it. If we are both worked day car…
/r/Divorce_Men17/07/20 02:03 PM
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As someone who once bought into that shit and wifed one up (tried to turn a ho into a housewife) take it from me that it's absolute bullshit. Had pastor's and everyone act like she was different, I thought she was different. True she wasn't a ho anymore... Just cold and detached in the sense she married me just to have a provider, have children with, have that status... Her child bearing age was running out. Once she had her kids all sex and respect went. Also she was always dishonest, petty, em…
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 01:56 PM
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Yeah I was married almost 10 years with 2 kids. Right off the batt I'm sure I've been set back at least half that.. with support factored in it may exceed those 10 years... As you said don't expect I'll ever be where I could have been.. I will struggle month to month (before marriage I'd max my retirement savings every year). I'm just content to live as simply as possible but still have to pay support for kids, feed them, pay for extra curriculars, etc. In terms of reitement I'm sure I'll have t…
/r/MGTOW16/07/20 07:32 PM
2

Good old ace of base lol. Those others aren't bad either.
/r/MGTOW16/07/20 06:18 PM
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Bingo. There are women in my life (and dudes like my boy) I'd gladly do it for . Wouldn't expect any of the women to reciprocate. Although as I reflect I don't resent them for it. Guys grow up wanting to be warriors, girls grow up wanting to be princesses, some even want to bring peace. Guys and girls just different in how they're wired. It's not just society.
/r/MGTOW16/07/20 06:04 PM
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As an introvert I feel the opposite. I can't wait to move out and have some space. I also realize because I love my space, time to think and reflect, I'd rather not get I to another relationship. I felt smothered being a married man all the time.. not that there was ever too much affection, I love physical affection.. just too much noise all the time, too much expectations to always be with everyone else. Never any time to recharge. I look forward to rekindling some friendships I felt I wasn't a…
/r/Divorce_Men16/07/20 06:03 PM
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YMMV. My ex grew up in Singapore and was more entitled than any western white girl I've dated.. revealed she was an escort in college, constantly confrontational, couldn't accept criticism... was some bpd/npd mix. Her mother was all about status and looking down on people in a lower station than herself. In fact every woman in that large family drove their men away except one who I think was cheating on her hubby at one point. My coworker was like no offense but aren't Asian women kinda high mai…
/r/MGTOW16/07/20 05:05 PM
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Id assume so. What they don't get is that you aren't respecting any religion when you're praying at to each of their 'gods'. My belief says the rest are all idols..so if she comes and prays in church then goes and prays in a mosque, then a Buddhist temple, and so on the people who are actually religious roll their eyes and realize it's just a stunt to make her feel better about herself
/r/MensRights16/07/20 03:58 PM
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In other words she's not just a whore to men, she's a whore to every religion in the world... She can't even pick something to actually believe in.. she'd rather pray to every 'god' and as a result make sure to offend every single one of those religions. In case she wasn't sure which one she wanted to offend the one real God out of the bunch. Gotcha
/r/MensRights16/07/20 03:36 PM
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This got me thinking about that rage inducing Facebook post. Someone saw a female topless in park. Of course feminists and sluts come out of the woodwork saying should be more normalized .. I'm sitting there like I have a 7 year old daughter I wouldn't want to see that and think it's ok to be a slut. Had to refrain from going off. The stupid logic is keep repeating something stupid like tits aren't sexual enough times and people start to accept it. Nevermind nipples are used to arouse women, boo…
/r/MGTOW16/07/20 03:24 PM
1

Don't even know who's releasing albums these days... Most of what I listen to is from the 90s lol... Was golden age for me. Lots of good metal, alternative, dance. But i haver quite a mix on Spotify. Some of those bands still releasing some new stuff like Disturbed and Coldplay for sure have. Think some of Rammsteins songs are recent, Megahertz.
/r/MGTOW16/07/20 03:07 PM
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Yeah as we started to contemplate divorce I realized if I'd net her that day, no marriage, no kids, I wouldn't even want to be her friend (even though we started out that way). At least if I met the real her
/r/MGTOW16/07/20 02:45 PM
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It's always a German Shepherd, a doberman,. A pitbull. Shouldn't least have a license or something for a dangerous dog. It's amazing how people actually call for defunding or more training for police but think it's perfectly fine to have dangerous wild animals guarding property
/r/MensRights16/07/20 01:49 PM
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This also goes for friendships imo. If your buddy goes silent for a while it could be because he's got a lot on his mind.. but if if becomes too much work just trying to get him to be present in your life don't worry about it.. he's probably just not as invested in the friendship as you were.. invest your energy elsewhere.. other friends... What you say about a woman being a nice addition is very short lived. Better to not get invested and then feel you've alresyd invested so much and don't want…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 10:52 PM
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Yeah I haven't been playing that close attention, haven't really cared about others business aside from commenting that you don't know what's going on behind closed doors. Looks like you're right. Also looks like it supposedly happened when they were seperated and thought to be 'done' so some might not even consider it cheating .. to me that's just another reason why separations (aka trial divorce to see if grass is really greener) are stupid. Just divorce and move on with your life or try to ma…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 08:03 PM
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Because like or not who you choose to marry (just like to a lesser extent who you associate with) can have a reflection on your character. It may not seem right to blame yourself but most people who have been cheated on either wonder what they did wrong or why their judgement was so poor to be with someone like that. It's a natural response for most people. Like even my divorce and my marriage. There is so much cringey stuff that happened that even the stuff nobody would blame me for I'm too ash…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 06:46 PM
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He should absolutely divorce her. I'm not familiar enough with it to say whether he will or not... I would hope so. I'm just saying no need to make book deals out of it. Divorce may be coming. Did Johnny really out her on blast? I seem to recall him staying out of the spotlight and just letting his lawyers take care of it while other people spoke in his defence.. that's the way to do it imo..she did a lot of damage herself by first making him appear to be the monster Almost any time I've seen a …
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 05:59 PM
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Probably because he isn't into airing out dirty laundry for the whole world to see.. if you look deeper at it I think it actually makes him look like a better man. Who knows what's going on behind closed doors and how much he's letting her have it. I always thought those who tried to make the other person look bad in public just ended up making themselves look worse generally. I sure as hell would want to keep it out of the public eye as much as possible and deal with it quietly. It's nobodies b…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 05:22 PM
2

If they've proven in an individual level absolutely.. people can certainly lose/forfeit that basic level of dignity given. I usually start out giving a very basic level of respect and give some benefit of the doubt, but if they prove themselves manipulative, someone who is all about status, are arrogant, they lose it from me. They no longer have that respect. If they're humble, don't compare their station to others or think too highly of themselves they gain my resoext. My former mother in law i…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 04:27 PM
1

Yeah ok I'll agree with that clarification. I think society is screwed and going downhill fast. However I think within my own circle of influence and people around me I can still try to be a bright spot, show kindness and respect.. if I see someone struggling I can reach out to lend a hand. I'll randomly offer to help a stranger if I see them trying to load something big into their vehicle. Why not?
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 04:07 PM
1

I think respect for myself would take the biggest hit if I were the one taking advantage of their good nature. Only real life example I can think of were older mentors when I was a child. They were clearly superior in their wisdom, strength, etc and yet they treated me as an equal. In that case my respect was greater for them than anyone else in a similar place of standing like tiger adults. So I think it's just women that see it as weakness and we are taught that's ok
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 04:02 PM
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Never cared much for sporting my superiority over people. That might be one of the biggest difference between the average thot and a man. A lot of chicks I'd they knew they were superior they wouldn't let you hear the end of it . A guy generally doesn't care.. we never think in those terms when finding a mate. Their thinking is very flawed because at least personally I try to treat everyone as my equal whether in a lowly 'station' or a high one.. sure we tend to treat celebrities special I'll gr…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 03:47 PM
1

They typically don't ask the kids unless they're already well into their teens (15 or so?). Just assumed they aren't qualified to make that decision and for good reason when they're young. Just becomes playing favourites. Both parents should be involved as long as they're not disqualified for being unfit in some way
/r/Divorce_Men15/07/20 03:26 PM
1

It'd be funny, but chances are shed do the exact same thing to him
/r/Divorce_Men15/07/20 03:24 PM
2

That last part probably isn't far from the truth.
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 03:07 PM
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Would they be saying this if it was a girl? Or just assuming most of the young girls these days have more than enough experience already? Actually never understood that like of thinking to begin with but never been into hookup culture. I'd rather my wife was inexperienced myself. As long as she's enthusiastic it's not going to be bad sex... too much comparing going on Anyways yeah it's pretty gross that they're trying to say he should just accept unwanted sex. I mean God forbid a dude doesn't ac…
/r/MensRights15/07/20 02:19 PM
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Yeah they like to rewrite history. I never felt owed anything ..I was just trying to be a decent human being.. still am.. just because I realize nice guys finish last, been divorce raped and all... I'm still gonna try to treat people with kindness and respect knowing I won't be getting much if anything in return. Only difference is I won't bother with romantic relationships. Like you I never was willing to sacrifice that part of me just to pick up women. Too great a cost imo to give up your inte…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 02:14 PM
2

If he said that's it's sort of funny... Isn't he trying to push green energy? It was nothing more than a sentence or two acknowledging it.. but it's amazing how we are constantly being told how catastrophic climate change is but also told how big a problem a declining population is .. pick one imo.... I get that declining population has issues like taxes and healthcare systems.. sure... But last I checked this whole green agenda is also ruining economies and people's jobs... Extra taxes as well.…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 02:08 PM
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Everytime I see these types of pics I get angry about certain types of dogs... I'm at least assuming that was no golden retriever or poodle....time and time again a pit bull attacks someone and you'll hear its just bad owners... at this point the reason really doesn't matter. If a few good owners have to have a different kind of dog so that little kids like this don't get mauled by the bad owners dogs so be it imo
/r/MensRights15/07/20 01:43 PM
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Yeah God forbid a guy who hasn't had any in a while tries to convince his wife to have sex with him right? I mean it's only implied that regular sex should be expected right along with the wedding vows. I suppose now after years of marriage they're also going to suddenly have regret and decide many of those times were in fact rape. I mean like I said if the guy is abusive or threatening there are other laws and charges to deal with that. Just because your husband made you feel 'uncomfortable' th…
/r/MGTOW15/07/20 01:33 PM
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The seeking pleasure for the sake of pleasure always perks my ears up a bit... I'm conflicted on that one and moderation comes to mind. Life isn't just a list of chores to do, work, and self improvement . Sometimes you just need to screw around for a bit for your own sanity. I mean otherwise what are you working for? Sometimes just doing nothing is great and good for your well being. Having at least an hour or two a day just to unwind is important. although is that really seeking pleasure for th…
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 11:11 PM
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Can pretty much gather that based on his need to out 'he/him/his' with his info
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 11:08 PM
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That's the problem though. Constantly being tested Nd eventually it tires you out. You shoudnt constantly be on guard in your own home, knowing that if you give them an inch they will take a mile. They're always ready to pounce or back stab. Just not worth it
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 10:04 PM
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One would think agreeing to marry means giving yourself sexually to the other party. Having said that yes you're being a dick if you try and force yourself on your partner if they're not in the mood.. rape is a bit of a jump though and being not in the mood doesn't qualify imo. If you just aren't into it in general anymore just go ahead and divorce. Marital rape always seemed grey at best, but I know you can't say that out loud anywhere... If she's too tired and you beat her into submission well…
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 09:13 PM
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No thanks! I think shaming is the way to go. In fact I think it's due time some form returns.. maybe not in public squared but at least among peers. We truly live in a society where people have no shame
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 06:37 PM
2

Both trash then. What's the point in being married if you're out banging other people? Partner gets leftovers? Status? Only reason for marriage (other than superficial reasons like status) is for raising a family and if you're traditional/religious sex (although for most sex drops off AFTER marriage). You can get anything else from being friends or roommates. Also have fun with STDs and accidental pregnancies
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 05:48 PM
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Trash... Just divorce the guy if you feel he doesn't fulfill your needs or whatever. If course if he's really going along with it he needs more self respect... Like how does that sound like a good deal? Yeah j get to pay for everything and put up with her shit while another guy gets to have sex with her and take her out
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 05:26 PM
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Anytime you hear someone saying she's deserves better (or like that cuck I know I can treat you better by Sean Mendez) I kinda chuckle. Dude you have no idea what she deserves until you've been with her a while. Good luck with that.. we all get tired of their shit
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 04:39 PM
1

Yeah reality is she's already keeping a fully paid house at minimum (I really just want most if liquid assets left over) and her mother and uncle are millionaires so I'm sure if they want to foot the bill for her to stay home they can while she collects from me. I'm just gonna be struggling to make ends meet living in a basement suite while paying almost 1200 a month in child support and she still wants alimony.. plus I'll be paying greater portion of daycare costs (comes under section 7 here an…
/r/Divorce_Men14/07/20 04:24 PM
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Yeah I'm just baffled... Oh if she cared she wouldn't laugh at me.. she's acting like she doesn't care . Uh yeah dude... She's getting plowed by Chad and his buddy of course she doesn't care
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 04:04 PM
2

Oh brother... This is a good question. Not there quite yet. Basically ex sat at home and spent both my money and her rich families. I couldn't afford don't me of the things for the kids, the house renos, moving into a bigger home.... She's trying to claim basically 75% of everything as we are still splitting things up. Well almost more like 70% her, 20% me, and had stashed 10% in kids accounts over last few years... Yeah has been setting this up. Has 'loan notes'.. or course the first question f…
/r/Divorce_Men14/07/20 03:44 PM
1

Lol that's nasty. Yeah mine aren't that bad that's for sure. Can still do moderate weight. Just wish I could still go heavy but maybe I'll get back to it. Was feeling a lot better after rest, just thought I may have re aggravated it running. Might just be some form of tendonitis even or something. Physio had some theories but nothing 100% concrete
/r/MGTOW14/07/20 01:20 PM
1

I'm sure it is a troll like others said.. but still got a good laugh out of it lol.. well done whoever it was
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 11:53 PM
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Four times? I'm assuming hes going to work until he dies
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 10:26 PM
2

Yeah I've made the same observation a few times on here. I was married nearly 10 years... During that time I obviously mingled with other couples. Also conservative and tend to hang around a lot of other church people. Even what you'd think are the happiest couples aren't. Knew a guy who sang in church regularly who had been there a while. Bit of a quieter guys like msyelf.. when I was about to be divorced that couples and another couples indicted us over every few weeks to 'talk', share struggl…
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 08:45 PM
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The insincerity in these types of public messages are always disgusting and annoying. Just say it didn't work out, you wanna still be civil, and do what's best for kids. If you have 'so much love for each other' then you wouldn't be getting divorced. The stbx keeps talking about hoping to be friends and it's like why? Let's be civil for the kids but if it weren't for them if wouldn't want to have much if anything to do with you. Don't want a hang out. And I'm the one that tried to make it work r…
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 07:00 PM
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Can't stand how long some of these YouTube people take to get to the point. I can see where it will eventually be going though and some of the comments
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 06:55 PM
7

I'd just assume he's in too much pain and can't even see properly with them watering like crazy. Generally end up with two black eyes from it. That headbutt came outta nowhere. Otherwise yeah shed certainly deserve whatever she got in return.
/r/MensRights13/07/20 06:32 PM
1

Yeah I dunno. I've read all the material, had vets tell me my squat is very clean.. I did ATG and would even pause a bit... I have no doubt you need to hit at least parallel. I just felt as I was trying and bearing 5 x 405 that as I got deep there was a 'settling' of my knee towards the outside as the external force was great on it. May have just been my rapid progression and not allowing tendons/ligaments to adjust. Not sure. No matter how many times people say it's not possible for your knees …
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 06:23 PM
3

Yeah the knee one can seem like a slap in the face. I've never had knee issues in my life (although remember landing hard one time from jumping down and might have tweaked my meniscus or something) until recently. Started squatting really heavy and deep. I have to wonder if maybe just overtraining as I was doing stronglolifts for the longest time. I realized later when I was over 3 plates I think the volume was just too much. I had actually got up to 3.5 plates 5x5 I think. Heard a bit of clicki…
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 05:39 PM
7

They really do mess up your head. We have been stuck in divorce proceedings since near beginning of year... Covid isn't helping but still trying to get out of this mindset where I can't make plans of my own and that I can't go out and leave her with the kids by herself etc.
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 01:56 PM
8

Werent they the couple that unashamedly admitted they were in an open relationship? Did that change? Changed their mind? I always feel open relationships are bullshit but curious about this case lol
/r/MGTOW11/07/20 02:44 PM
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I wouldn't assume. Sometimes they really settle for the nice guy and aren't real crazy about them. Don't believe my wife ever loved me. People eve. Tried to warn me... Once she got the two kids she wanted and moved into a bigger place she dropped the charade. In fact when I looked back was only nice to me when she was planning the next thing she wanted
/r/MGTOW11/07/20 04:37 AM
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It's great. If you haven't watched yu yu hakusho it's the one the same guy made before it and is also fantastic. One if my favourites..
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 03:57 AM
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4 of them though? This wouldn't allow much time for breaking up after the birth of the child or between relationships. Call me skeptical. Even then that's 4 guys sharing 5.5 years. At best they'd have less than a year and a half each and she'd have jumped right from one guy to the next. Again skeptical how serious they were. At least serious enough in the sense of put a baby in me.. I'm ready to raise a kid with you.more likely one or two were really that serious... Plus if they're that serious …
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 03:46 AM
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Is there where one would say: enjoy your cats and boxed wine?
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 02:00 AM
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Just finished another day of work and then went for a run while watching Hunter x Hunter. Awesome show. Engineer this morning managed to get me another two weeks with their office that has had me helping them for 2 years.. our local one doesn't have much work atm. Just trying to hold on. Every week helps! Trying to figure out if I can finalize this divorce and if I'm gonna have a job but it Im off for a while plan to go hiking in the mountains at least once a week . Trying to shed this trapped m…
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 01:21 AM
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Wow thanks for sharing. Sounds like he was quite the guy, very wise despite what your sister may have thought. Good for you being resilient and si caring. It's nice to know sometimes nice guys don't always finish last. I know you'd still prefer to have your grandpa but it was his time right? You spent it well with him at least even if she didn't
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 01:10 AM
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They sure hate being proven wrong don't they? Can't seem to accept that her mom who has been around twice as long as she has might know a thing or two. Like hey maybe your fiance isn't a huge fan of you having boyfriends. Hey maybe if you have a boyfriend you're not giving your fiance you full and undivided love and attention . Like hey Relationships and marriage are hard enough even when you only have one person to please and aren't distracted by others giving you attention
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 11:16 PM
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I'm confused by her saying all the relationships with those baby daddies were serious then mentioned there are 6 kids with 4 of them and only 28... Pick one... Did she start dating first one at 12 and popped out first kid with him at 15? It's the only way I can figure out how she'd have a serious relationship with each one. I wouldn't consider anything serious unless shed been with them at least a couple years .. especially when we are talking bearing children and soonest you could have #2 with …
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 10:33 PM
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Kinda do wonder how he spebt so much but love the comment in there.. 'voguht a top of the lin sex doll since he knew his relationship would be screwed lol' Maybe he didn't spend the full 8k and is shit testing her lol. You're right though.. wouldjt surprise me if it was mostly or all his money. I still remember when my ex returned the two pairs of Costco shorts I bought for like 20 bucks... That was a huge slap in the face... I almost never buy anything for myself despite being the only one that…
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 10:07 PM
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I voted for Bezos... Why? Well at least for Prince Harry this is his first narriage,? I think. For many of us we needed to be burned once to wise the hell up. Lots of us divorced guys here. Bezos has already been burned and he's alreayd running right back into the fire? Again? And already? Wtf man.
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 08:38 PM
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Hey man... No harm no foul. Laugh about it if nothing else... It's a good reminder/lesson learned that only cost you a bit of pride/dignity and nothing else. Some lessons are far more costly as you well know
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 08:02 PM
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Guess she just figured another orbiter wouldn't hurt/ lives getting validation from dozens of guys? I just don't get it personally . A person only has so much time. Why waste it just for a bit of attention from so many? Aren't there better real life hobbies to do?
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 07:11 PM
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Yup known for a long time presidents have a lot of people to answer to and don't have the unilateral power some people think they do. Also owe a lot of favours for getting there
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 01:49 PM
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Keep in mind for a lot of history marriage wasn't for 'love' or at least bit the type we call love. Usually they tried to grow to love the person later if anything.
/r/MGTOW09/07/20 03:19 AM
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When you have 40 guys all going for a job and you have 4 girls and they hire 3 girls.. then yeah I highly doubt the other guys just werent as qualified . All fresh grads so... In fact they were looking for some junior engineers. My buddy had a couple years of experience, still junior, also had a master's in math on top of his engineering, and I recommended him and everything.. yet they hired a girl fresh out of school instead. Not even an interview. As far as I know she didn't have any connectio…
/r/MensRights09/07/20 01:00 AM
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Sorry I meant jobs when they graduate. Woke. Less than 10% of class but half of our junior hired always women
/r/MensRights09/07/20 12:03 AM
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Why would she be popping balloons? Oh wait.. that's a condom! But but.. they're not married they shouldnt be doing that! Ok sorry had too much fun with that. Yes most people thee days have sex before marriage. He had better be careful because yes that's a guaranteed pay day... Shit so much money on the line almost hard to blame her for a bit of insurance. Ok I mean I'd hope most of us would have more integrity but it's a lot of money
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 11:19 PM
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About the STEM thing? I was talking more about when they graduate. I know at least in our industry a lot of the new hires are women but when you look at the program's they're like less than 10% of the grad class
/r/MensRights08/07/20 10:59 PM
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Agree that it all comes down to perspective. The real 'incels' really do get the short end of the stick when it comes to life in general. People like the instagrammer are told through their whole life that they deserve the very best... Perspective gets skewed and anything but everything they desire becomes a tragedy. Who knows all what was going on with her. Sadly any kind of mental illness or drugs can make a life with so many good things seem glum
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 10:02 PM
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Yeah talk to your son about how he's going to have to compete against all these others guys in STEM because most of the women in his class will have jobs reserved for then when they graduate Tell your son to keep his distance from women so he doesn't get #metooed. How's that :)
/r/MensRights08/07/20 09:21 PM
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I'll always chime in on there by saying the loss or any life is tragic. Reality is such a beautiful young girl would have had the world at her fingertips in this society that places good looking people (especially women) in a special class. Doesn't make it any less tragic then an ugly person. A life is a life. They all have family and friends that care about them and are devastated. It's sad when they can't see all that life still has to offer them and realize things will get better. Yes you do …
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 09:04 PM
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Yeah truth be told I kinds like having the pedal to the medal and a bit of organized chaos at work.. keeps things interesting. Just wish things weren't so unstable and budgets smaller
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 08:09 PM
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No problem hating on their fellow man and using shaming language but God forbid you notice some hypocrisy of double standards where women seem a little too privledged on a men's rights sub
/r/MensRights08/07/20 08:02 PM
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Yeah unfortunately really not an option. There s huge stigma of hiring ex oil and gas people.. that and no industry other than gov jobs secure here now.. province relies heavily on oil and gas. I'd consider retraining but almost every dollar will be going towards child support/daycare and living. Kinda stuck
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 08:00 PM
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That's definitely a problem.Women aren't all bad, but often get off far too easily for poor behaviour. It isn't helping them become their best selves, I'd argue it encourages selfishness and the like. Lessons usually learned through consequences but when you're off the hook or get bailed out.. well.. some lessons don't get learned.
/r/MensRights08/07/20 07:44 PM
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I'm kinda jealous sometimes at people who can. Blows my mind seeing public positions and how lax they are with so much security. In oil and gas here we bust out asses off and face layoffs every few years .. used to be we got paid handsomely but not really anymore... Was stagnant for a while and then last few years when people got hired back been making way less. Thing is even up to my last day I'd be handing siemthint over to the client to sign. People alreayd worked hard in industry but now bei…
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 07:41 PM
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Lol saw that as well. Comments are mixed.. got someone saying getting cash for their dignity and another days.. and....? Some ethot picked on his grammar. Some comments about simps will pay it. Some white knights of course in there
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 07:37 PM
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Yeah I was convinced into working as early as I can so I could have time with kids. Got up at 530 to make it for 530... Then when I got home I was expected to either take care or kids or do house work until 9 when they slept. Shed often just head upstairs so she could have a break. You can imagine when I was waking up that early how much free time that gave me. She stayed at home . First one went to monstessori preschool 4 times a week for 'education'. Second one was making less but she managed …
/r/MensRights08/07/20 07:27 PM
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Yeah Canada definitely has its share of other issues. You could argue the taxes they do bring in is not sure efficiently. I'd love to have less taxes for everyone, but the reality is taxes are a certainty, the question is who's paying them? Sadly it seems mostly the ones caught in the middle. Can't expect people at bottom to pay too much, guys at top could easily contribute a little and it would be a drop in the bucket . But as things gets more expensive we just keep expecting the guys just abov…
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 06:18 PM
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Well my stbx lost hee job a year into marriage (already half time at that point) and never did go back to work. Guess what? She's getting half. That's how it works. Only say to avoid is I'd you're basically willing to kick them to the curb the moment they start meeting at home otherwise nothing you can do. In fact mine is trying to get 75% because she wanted a certain lifestyle I couldn't afford to maintain, took lots of money from her rich family and now calling them loans with notes to try and…
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 04:58 PM
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Well if you look at the AITA thread where dad cuts off his daughter college funds because of her on onlyfans account? Yeah that one someone actually said 'shes not doing anything inmoral or anything....' just goes to show many moms and dads and treating basic right and wrong anymore lol. when I grew up the universal consensus from religious or atheist was that was immoral behaviour
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 03:19 PM
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You're mostly right... But I mean that's also a race to the bottom scenario. Like I get that my job can be done what cheaper overseas, but at the same time I can't possibly lower my rate nearly that low. It's so much cheaper to live over there. Partially due to what you're saying, but then the standard those bottom people are living with is pretty bad. Best case scenario that will take a long time is that those 'high value areas' gradually have their own rates creep up.. but generally just shift…
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 02:48 PM
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It's great seeing success stories and supposed to be encouragement, but in almost every single one no mention of being a single dad paying child support for 2 or 3 kids. It's the monthly cash flow that really messes a dude up if he's got those payments. I know already that there are definitely some places I can save money once I'm moved out but.it.has to equal more than 2k just to be back where I was during the marriage, which was barely getting by on a single salary. Lesson is still don't get m…
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 02:36 PM
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Yeah as a society we don't expect them to be accountable and they can be so ruthless in divorce. I'd say when men are wronged they have the ability to look past their hurt to be still be fair
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 02:32 PM
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Exactly... You can keep her happy I'd you Juno through the following hoops. Don't let you or your whole life can be ruined. Why bother?can't even be comfortable in your own skin and be yourself? I'd rather drop the act and just enjoy my own company
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 04:55 AM
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Eh i still believe in keeping taxes on business themselves low . Just get rid of some of the loopholes for the individuals at the upper end. I get it I used to think exactly the same.. but honestly when the gap is bigger than ever in recorded history you can't keep trending the same way. Communism is so far removed from where we are it's eve. A remote possibility. A bit of a correction is needed at some point. Happened once alreayd historically.. can't recall the years. (Ok it was around 1980 wh…
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 02:54 AM
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Shows #94 there who is still quite a bit faster than the fastest female
/r/MGTOW08/07/20 02:12 AM
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Was just about to follow up with this... In such a scenario a million bucks iant worth that much if the wealthier ones are in the trillions.
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 11:58 PM
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Problem is the world and the financial system doesn't work that way. You can print as much money as you want but there are a finite amount of resources that can be traded for said currency. If someone is extremely wealthy (or a country) then that generally means someone else has to suffer in the grand scheme of things. Reality is the poorest of the poor is still in other parts of the world. You can't have everyone be wealthy. In North America our poor still better off but getting squeezed more n…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 11:34 PM
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Yeah I was confused by that too lol. Doesn't realize none of them are actually that unique
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 11:10 PM
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That's insane. How could he ever trust her again. I felt betrayed enough when she was in her best behaviour and managed to convince me to have a second that closed down shop both sexually and respect wise right after she had that positive test. That was deceptive enough for me and still tried to tough it out a while
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 08:47 PM
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I can see it
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 08:31 PM
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I suppose looking back friend zone is what I ended up doing. Put up barriers like no seeing outside work etc. Puffing/defending up that boyfriend they complain about. What really caused me to join another team and create space with the first one was when another coworker let it slip another coworker thought something was going on and that she talked to me a certain way. Was shocked (I can also be naiive she was a friendly girl in general) and realized I needed to do something. With the friend I …
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 08:16 PM
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I feel like I'm reaching stage where I'm tired of blaming women for everything. I do agree to some extent things like hypergamy and external validation affect women greatly, although men aren't impervious either. You spend enough time around /r divorce and stuff and you realize guys do just get bored and have midlife crisis and run off with the younger coworker. It happens. Women lose tingles, guys lose tingles . In general things like loyalty, honour, and the like are more predominant in men an…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 07:57 PM
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Simp a white night who will do anything for attention from women, like throwing other dudes under the bus and calling them incel/virgin for daring to throw a bit of criticism towards the object of his affection
/r/MensRights07/07/20 06:31 PM
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You're right we are all being influenced to some extent. There are those constantly pulling strings in the background. I think the media is more targeted to the left, but it's unavoidable that our every day lives are the results of manipulation. He skeptical and question everything to some extent but also take the stoic approach. Realize there's probably nothing you can really do about it.. just lice your life as best you can with what you can control. Can only worry so much about stuff way furt…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 05:30 PM
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He's right that 'most' men are stronger.. however there are other considerations. Some men have been blackmailed (like I'll say you raped me if you don't), drugged/drunk (happens to both), it they do fight but they can get charged with assults, etc. It's not all as simple as he makes it. I would actually assume most rape isn't the overly violent type. Just people that don't respect when people say no and/or take advantage
/r/MensRights07/07/20 05:06 PM
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Probably a lot of truth there. We are all being manipulated to an extent but media and such heavily target the left. Only thing I've changed my tune on slightly is wealth distribution.. I generally agree keeping business taxes low draws business... However it's getting hard to dispute the huge gap... It's come to attention that in history there has never been a greater disparity between the wealthy elite and the common man. There's a case to be made that maybe they should be paying their fair sh…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 04:41 PM
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To me mgtow isn't that it's statistically impose noe to have a decent marriage.. it's more that the odds are against you and even the best marriages still require some sacrifice and aren't amazing in every way. You have to realize the main purpose of marriage isn't just to make both people happy which is the lie many are sold. I get the desire to start a family. We are wired to feel that way. Have to realize you can attain that but likely will at some poiint be a single dad, or suffering til the…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 03:53 PM
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2 things.... They just got married? Like this happened just the other day? Need one of those remind me things in say 10 years. Everyone, literally everyone starts out this way. This is social media. Everyone looks wonderful on social media right up until when you're telling everyone she you're divorcing, she cheated in you, etc. Been there done that. Is it possible that 1/1000 couples are truly happy? Sure . Or course it can happen (it would basically be statistically impossible not to exist wit…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 03:30 PM
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Eh I get it and sorta laughed too... But incel/virgin is definitely something used frequently by women to shame men who don't just go along with thinking all women are wonderful. Men's rights shouldnt be a place where guys are called such things just for a bit if criticism towards women.. otherwise just masquerading as a safe place to discuss mens issues but really just being another white knight sub
/r/MensRights07/07/20 03:16 PM
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Uses inflammatory shaming language like incel on a men's rights sub. Right up there with you're probably a virgin! Can't criticize women though
/r/MensRights07/07/20 03:09 PM
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First time I felt that way she was pregnant with our first kid and basically said she had a free license to treat me how she wanted cause of hormones. As I mentioned I cut ties when I realized the trap. Managed to make things work and still desired her...my respect for her was still there. Busted my ass to make her happy.. was never enough. Still struggled but was workable. Was hesitant about second but if course was on her best behaviour and fooled me. Once she tested positive there was no reas…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 02:12 PM
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You guys are catching on
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 01:41 PM
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Well at least you learned from another's experience then. Just say no :)
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 01:41 PM
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I'd only agree that cheating isn't the worst thing that can happen. I found being stuck in a marriage where the only person who can provide sexually for you had no interest, abuses you mentally/verbally, and doesn't respect you far worse. Like they don't value you or desire you but God forbid someone else does. Was worse than if she cheated on me I think. Never felt so damn lonely or worthless. Maybe I'm saying that cause I haven't been cheated on.. or not that I know of. I kinda wondered near t…
/r/MGTOW07/07/20 04:01 AM
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The science thing is kinda my point. instead of dealing with the philoaiphixal/moral side we try to make it about science to detach ourselves. At least with your view even if it's quite different than mine it's honest, upfront, and not splitting hairs. It's either born or it's not. Not trying to figure out which organs are functional at which timeline. I figured you might talk about birth control. I'm not against that.. and this is probably where you're coming from when saying people determine l…
/r/MensRights07/07/20 03:05 AM
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Eh even if science could somehow say definitively life didn't begin until week 15 I'd still feel the same. Nothing more than a technicality imo as to exact day it starts. Reality is you're either ending a life that's already started or will be starting. If you end it before it technically begins is that really any better? I sorta get it... But seems too convenient to say oh well onky a few cells divided and it's only say a 5% chance it will be a born baby... I also have no delusion the laws are …
/r/MensRights07/07/20 02:30 AM
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My whole point is it becomes nothing more than an academic exercise because no one wants to really get into the moral side let alone spiritual. It's splitting hairs when you're trying to determine the exact week it has a heartbeat and whether you still have a week to go or something. It's like.. well technically I'm not ending it's life because it won't have a heartbeat for another week. So i shouldn't feel guilty having an abortion this week... But if I'd waited another week I'd sure be guilty.…
/r/MensRights07/07/20 02:07 AM
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So simply destroying the growing Human being because they got pregnant is dealing with the consequences and being responsible? People want to dehumanize a fetus because it's convenient more than anything and it's a huge industry. We would rather tell people what they're doing is ok so they can sleep at night. It's a human in the making at the very least and you're snuffing it out before it can developed hopes and dreams and be a living person. Can almost guarantee if there weren't deep implicati…
/r/MensRights07/07/20 01:41 AM
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Yeah mine couldn't see to have a rationale discussion. Always tried to tell me you can disagree in a disagreeable way.. which was funny because she's the only one who I'd discuss things with that took it so personally. Think she was just used to everyone kissing her ass when she was in her 20s and dabbled in modelling. Honestly the best thing about staying single is you no longer have to worry about finding yourself back in those same types of relationships. Like I'm the naiive nice guy and I th…
/r/Divorce_Men06/07/20 10:46 PM
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This would be my worry. Of course they both seems nice and shoot now. They all do for most part. Ok I might have been the rare one where family were sorts wondering before hand.. but generally all is well until after they've been together a while.. even those family who were skeptical were horrified when they realized she wasn't who she said she was and wondered how long is be able to hang in there. Oh and I'd be more worried if she DID make more kids with him. I couldn't imagine getting married…
/r/MGTOW06/07/20 10:38 PM
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I definitely regret marrying her and wouldn't have if I realized I was marrying someone that didn't actually love me back. I realize that's saying I wouldn't have had those kids... But reality is no one would marry someone they knew didn't love them even if they were told they've have wonderful kids. They're basically the lemonade I was able to make out of lemons. My blue pill self would have married someone else and would have likely produced kids I loved just as much.. whether they were quite …
/r/MGTOW06/07/20 10:11 PM
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That's the conundrum I think. Ultimately you could try the adoption route but good luck as a single male. I ultimately wanted a family and got married and had kids and all that. Love the kids to pieces but damn was it ever costly having them. As a man who already has kids the only main reason for getting married is off the table to me. They were also a reason I stuck around for so long nearly at the cost of my own sanity. I had resigned myself to a lifetime of servitude and suffering for their s…
/r/MGTOW06/07/20 09:42 PM
1

See I always hear it's my body... But it's also the babies body... It's shared at that point. You can say you can't be forced to let someone use your body to live but you're forcibly removing the childs body. In some cases I've seen where they actually tear each limb off to pull the unborn baby out. Seems like a pretty fine line to say it's not killing the child. But yeah... I feel people should really consider adoption before they consider abortion. Had friends who waited a long time before the…
/r/MensRights06/07/20 08:37 PM
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Eh I realize it'll never be banned. It also might seem unfair that she can choose to just kill the baby and the dad can't choose to the same. I'd argue it's more of a tragedy that a dad can't choose to raise the child if she's set on killing it. Would be best if neither wanted to do kill it and would just be responsible for a life they created, since it's a risk people should realize every time they have sex protected or not. I think letting guys off the hook is less the issue than the fact we l…
/r/MensRights06/07/20 06:51 PM
2

Lady you're not nearly good looking enough to pull that off at this point. Sorry.
/r/MGTOW06/07/20 06:02 PM
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I couldn't stand always feeling like I was so accountable to a someone else for how I spent my time outside work. Eventually it became where I was expected to work as early as I could to be with kids (would wake up 530.. go in 630.. but then when I got home I'd either be with them or working on the house until 9ish and then I could have my own time.. even with kids she liked to tell me what I should do with them ><. I eventually felt the only thing to look forward to in life was kids major event…
/r/MensRights06/07/20 03:24 PM
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How about both parties just accept some damn responsibility and not murder unborn children? It's scary as society we just don't want anyone to take responsibility anymore. We all want to have one nighht stands but not deal with the consequences... We all seem to forget the unborn child is the real victim here. What's being proposed just encourages even more abortions In terms of child support though... Would be really nice if the only money changing hands was the difference in pay... In Canada a…
/r/MensRights06/07/20 02:23 PM
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Yeah was surprised I had to scroll down so far to start seeing posts saying this has to be a troll... Ding ding we have a winner. They just not realize guys see those kinds of profiles all the time
/r/MGTOW06/07/20 02:17 PM
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Unfortunately if you haven't been married that long this may b come a trend. Certainly did for me. Couldn't stand to see me going for very long without doing something 'productive'. After a while that's all we are to them.. just labour. Had seen on Reddit a couple times .. what do women hate? A man kicking his feet up and relaxing after a good days work. Unfortunately after years being married it often becomes too true. Well I guess all I can say is make it known early and often you don't like b…
/r/MensRights06/07/20 01:51 PM
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I think it's good to have a place to go to when desperate. It does suck there are no resources for men though :(
/r/MGTOW06/07/20 01:45 PM
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Playing house when you're not married seemed like a bad idea even when I was a simp
/r/MGTOW05/07/20 03:21 PM
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Reality is most of those standards are pushed by other women comparing and their own magazines.. lots of guys are happy enough with not fat and actually shows me some respect.my ex wife put on a lot of weight but I still found her desirable until the disrespect and constant resentment from her killed it
/r/MGTOW05/07/20 01:43 AM
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Yeah mine was a real Karen type who always wanted me to demand things for her and confront people who responded rudely to her. Most of time didn't fall for that shit and she claims ite one of the reasons she decided to divorce...(at that point k was ready to hit the road myself so said don't let the door hit ya). One in particular she whipped out her phone in middle of movie and guy was the real vocal type cursing under his breath and all that. Sure I should have checked up on her more but when …
/r/MGTOW05/07/20 01:30 AM
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I'd disagree with the former as well... Maybe you don't see as many CEO s.. but I'd argue fee woman aspire or are willing to put in the extra hours for that. It's been shown men average higher weekly average for hours. They prioritise family more.. I digress. My experience in engineering... Half the new hires of juniors/new grads are females despite the fact their grad class would have had what 10% females? I've heard so many similar stories. We all know about quota hires and the push for more w…
/r/MensRights05/07/20 01:19 AM
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That's pretty great lol "Can you tell your daughter bit to send me these things in the future" Should also ask her man if he knows she distributing a tape or them.. although the simp prob was in on burning 'her toxic ex'
/r/MGTOW05/07/20 01:13 AM
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Yeah it's funny because all these girls on /r nice guys will be teaching their own sons in a few years to act exactly that way and they will have the same frustrations. Not all will act out and get rude when it fails . Some will just take it but some will react the same way Personally I wouldn't have acted any differently. If someone won't love me for being kind and respectful then that's too damn bad. That's who I am. I knew in my teens you had to be an ahole but want willing to be. Now that's …
/r/MGTOW05/07/20 01:08 AM
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Can put rape/false accusations for men. Gender inequality. They're right. Some tend to have more privledged then men. Not even allowed to criticize them. It's funny because if lot of their issues like being image conscious and the tough beauty standards are caused mostly by infighting amongst themselves Also curious why women constantly messaging multiple guys and having less shame about cheating in modern culture should be dismissed or downplayed. Id add paternity fraud to that. Far more common…
/r/MensRights04/07/20 04:49 PM
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Everything but #3 also apply to men.....the main difference being no one cares when they happen to men . In fact they say it's not possible or doesn't happen. It's dismissed
/r/MensRights04/07/20 04:35 PM
1

Lol oops typo. *Mine. As in my stbx
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/20 03:07 PM
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Yeah unfortunately about to lose my job. My lawyer even said if we can't support two households becauss if job situation and hwr not being able to find one easily during covid. Might. E better holding off a bit. Goodness .. I hope I can find another gig soon and get this finalized
/r/MGTOW04/07/20 06:26 AM
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The worst part is it may drag in even more because im about to lose my job. My lawyer even said if you guys aren't in a good position to support two households you might be better holding off a bit... Ughhh....
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/20 06:24 AM
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Good man. I'm still finalizing my divorce. I'm also looking forward to taking my life back,spending more time with friends, and taking care of myself. I'd say I'm I. Sounds like you were fortunate not to have kids with the harpy. I love my kids but makes things way more complicated and costly. I'm assuming in short-term with daycare and stuff gonna be closed to 2k a month in costs just for them. Going to be hard to make ends meet with support payments and stuff. I'd move in with a roommate somrw…
/r/MGTOW04/07/20 05:59 AM
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Well good luck. Hopefully moving out doesn't hurt your legal case. It's the only reason I'm still in the house with her. Most of the time we just go about our own business Nd focus in the kids or our own activities but she can still be a piece of work at times
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/20 03:18 AM
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Yeah mine is saying 70/30 until youngest is full time school but don't trust her much at this point. If like to think she has their best interest in mind but...
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/20 03:16 AM
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Been stuck with her so far during all this. Don't want to move out until it's finalized. It sucks. Can't wait to move out but hopefully will have kids my fair share
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/20 01:14 AM
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You mean like after the wedding she did something that made you regret? Or was this arenaged? Otherwise would wonder why you married. I was too thick myself.i think she married someone she didny love... I def had second thoughts within days when she used the word divorce akrasyd but somehow ended up justifying it as her abandonment issues. She's already made excuses beforehand saying shed try to test me and run away and all that
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/20 01:13 AM
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Like a women's only section in the gym? Like DV shelters? One man had started one here and it closed for lack of funding then he killed himself. Have to agree women love havi g their own clubs . But moment guys start their own they want to join then exclude a lot of the guys that used to go. Look scouts ... Still have girl guides right? Are boys allowed? Last I checked no
/r/MensRights04/07/20 01:10 AM
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Not for you it wasn't but somehow they're the only victims allowed.
/r/MGTOW03/07/20 07:24 PM
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Kind of agree if any guys actually say that they shouldn't be friends... But I think there are women whose trashy friends aren't a good influence either and I get the impression they'd just not even worry about having them over around their kids
/r/MensRights03/07/20 06:09 PM
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Sorry you had to go through that. Amazing how if they figure they've had it worse it suddenly means you didn't have it hard. I'm sure if she really was raped (and not just later regretted it) then she has a lot of trauma. It was a very brief but painful encounter that will linger in her mind. Yours may not have felt as violated in the same manner, but betrayed, unloved and yours was repeated Ed over a longer period of time. But why compare at all actually? Can't you both have suffered? Shoudnt b…
/r/MGTOW03/07/20 05:55 PM
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That's disgusting. Always blows my mind. Double digits imo is already bad, triple digits just seems normal now. People literally have no shame anymore. I think people are really into something when they say shaming should come back in some form lol. Maybe not public square shaming, but at least family/friend/paper shaming
/r/MGTOW02/07/20 05:26 PM
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PPD misogyny... I guess being aware of double standards and enjoying cases of actual gender equality is considered misogyny
/r/MGTOW02/07/20 05:23 PM
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It doesnt pipe up quite as much as a hoarder you often hear, shed at least byet rid of what she was replacing, was just an endless cycle, about but still .. every damn inch of wall has to be used. Can't have a nice empty space anywhere. Was hard to find a place to do handstand push-ups when I was doing those more. Every room has to be well furnished... Like every damn room has to have some type of desk or dresser... Even living room/family room. I also remember one time she kept changing her min…
/r/MensRights02/07/20 01:32 PM
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Yup pretty much this. Could easily also make dinner/do Yar work whatever while waiting for the dryer. But yeah when it comes to folding that's tv time :)
/r/MensRights02/07/20 01:22 PM
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Kinda like how my ex wife complained she was busy (stay at home mom... One in bit school went to daycare twice a week). She could not help herself from constantly rearranging the house, buying second hand items, reselling the second hand items she bought etc. Driving around to pick up, putting old stuff up for auction. Was pointless. She just couldn't stop tinkering and then complained she was busy lol .. she was her own worst enemy
/r/MensRights01/07/20 10:39 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't doubt that. Many of the issues they complain about are within their control. I'm sure they have things they struggle with we wouldn't understand. Human rights aren't one of them imo
/r/MensRights01/07/20 10:18 PM
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I wasn't even thinking in terms of human rights.. pretty sure they got us there, although they'd make it about something stupid like going topless... I was thinking they'd argue being a women is tougher in other ways like cost of women products/periods , dumb crap like that. Maybe make it about pressure on appearance (mostly from other women). The less tangible things. I'm open to not assuming everything about being a woman is easier. In sure they have their issues I wouldn't inderstand. I think…
/r/MensRights01/07/20 10:12 PM
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Question is finally did what? The goal posts have just kept moving and will likely continue to do so. Will there ever be a large correction where the pendulum swings back the other way? Maybe. Not sure I'd I'll see it in my lifetime. Can't even criticise a female these days.
/r/MensRights01/07/20 10:09 PM
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Well they haven't so ... I mean what are we talking here? Sure there night be specific things where they have it harder, but for the most part they have more advantages than men do at this point. There have been tests where women have tried being a man and quickly found they weren't having such a good time
/r/MensRights01/07/20 09:35 PM
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I'm surprised it's even that close tbh. Maybe I'm a little jaded because mine stayed at home, sent out first to 4 days preschool for a couple years before kindergarten and with our second managed to get some subsidy to send our second two days a week. I still ended up doing a lot of chores around the house... Kids were basically pushed onto me when I got home and on weekends. From when I got up at 530 to when kids slept around 9 I was expected to either be at work, doing things with them, or doi…
/r/MensRights01/07/20 08:08 PM
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I'm hoping that still requires a fair bit of evidence... People have falsely gone to jail before . I think it's fairly rare .. the bigger problem is just the accusation and trial.... Simply being accused and being tried for it is damaging enough and I believe that's the most common problem these days.
/r/MensRights30/06/20 11:09 PM
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Not at all. There are plenty of guys who have either been married once (like myself) or others that go from casual hookups and just decide it's not worth all the hassle. I think it could bring a bit if awareness? That with family courts, entitled attitudes, and me too accusations guys are opting out and will continue to do so unless siemthint changes.. ultimately I kinda doubt it though. There are enough hormonal dudes out there that are super thirsty.. look at things like onlyfans and all the o…
/r/MensRights30/06/20 09:18 PM
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Note how I said 'all the time'. That 'love' you speak about is usually contingent on either paying the bills and/or being helpful around the house. Very few stick around if you were suddenly unable to help around house and lost your job (like say you were badly injured). Mine checked out moment she got the second kid basically. Already got what she wanted Honestly dating and having a girlfriend is nothing . Especially in today's age where a lot of people will say unless you specifically say it's…
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 04:05 PM
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The ass in op just looks like a couple flat pancakes imo
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 04:04 PM
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I was married For almost 10 years... Generally among all couples I met the wives were mostly in it just for kids . (Including mine), even those still 'happily married'. In some cases it's the wife status. In my case it was kids, but also a domestic slave who did everything around the house when he wasn't working while she stayed at home and did the odd thing like cooking. Most married guys I know can't go out and do things like they used to because they're on daddy duty or have things to do arou…
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 03:48 PM
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I've been actually told by senior engineers that when they were fresh grads they were required to work and provide engineering support at the construction site for a period of time before becoming p. Eng. Now that it's no longer required they said they've noticed a lack of practical knowledge
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 01:26 PM
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Wasnt quite there. Something like a 3.95 only cause of the comms course I think and at the tech school was still at the top. Wasn't as competitive. Had top mark in a few of the classes. Found the ones recruited the most were on their second careers. Reality is even if you're highly recruited it doesn't help once you're actually in the job. There are plenty who were terrible students that end up being very knowledgeable and good at what they do. I feel I can learn pretty quickly and ask lots of q…
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 02:38 AM
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Yup. Literally had fights in my marriage because I never praised her enough on Facebook. I said well i appreciate you etc. And it was well you don't tell other people. On other hand any time she made a nice post I rolled my eyes cause she treated me a lot more poorly than that.... Oh and we are well into divorce and tries wishing my old man happy Father's Day and is mad they don't respond or like her posts lol.... Hoped shed keep them friended so they could see pics of kids but prob won't be for…
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 06:36 PM
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And yet there was sa post on AITA where a father shouldn't. Judge his daughter for onlyfans and cut off her college tuition and that it's it's a valid line of work. I posted right in there that it could cause problems down the road with employment and many other things. I'll bet the same folk saying YTA are the same ones signing the petition to have her vids removed here
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 06:19 PM
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Unfortunately still a huge barrier in employment, especially international assignments, but I'd be inclined to agree with you. There are some pretty dumb engineers and some pretty smart drafters/designers. Heck one of the better ones I know just has a GED. I can honestly say I thought tech school was more streamlined and yet only a very small amount was even relavent to life after school. A lot of it even at tech school is oriented towards R&D. 90% of my job is learned on the job and I feel alwa…
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 06:00 PM
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Hope it's real. I'm assuming a dude like that is smart enough that if she comes saying she pregnant in next few weeks he will call her bs out as well...
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 01:49 PM
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Yeah I'm sure you're right about that. Ultimately not a whole lot I can do about that. I live in the system in given and black/white/native whatever I try to treat those well around me and give everyone a chance.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 02:26 AM
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They were all over my Facebook feed during the George Floyd protests. 'my overwhelming white priveldge' was word for word what was in one of those chain posted someone had copied into theirs.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 02:23 AM
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Guess you've never seen all the self depreciating videos or posts about their overwhelming white priveldege. And yes there really are people who hate themslevws for how they were born as
/r/MensRights28/06/20 10:39 PM
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Yeah a jailcell almost a sweet release that. What he's going through arm. I worry any one of us guys going through divorce could end up this way. I have money saved through retirement so have a bunch of that to go through but yeah losing my job while divorcing certainly brings to mind these types of stories
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 09:39 PM
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Paying for others sins never made sense to me. It's same how as a white guy I'm supposed to feel so guilty about ancestors taking advantage of natives or African slave traders. Like I treat everyone around me decently
/r/MensRights28/06/20 09:35 PM
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Kinda have to agree.... I guess they don't want financial reasons to be a barrier. Or could be like my stbx.on paper makes almost nothing but has rich family, will be living ina. Fully paid house and will be getting child support from a dad who will be living in q basement just scraping by. Some type of alimony payment as well although may be considered part of the house and paid already
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 08:01 PM
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Yup. I remember early in even saying she needs some tough love, that it sometimes meant keeping her in line and that I had to be careful not to make her an idol. Shed love to say she's reflecting me.. but funny how it only seemed to be the case the 2% of the time I lost my temper and not the rest of the time when I was trying to take the high road or tell her that we should let this debt or that debt go and not pursue that person. To be kind to others.. to not demand that friend if the friend pa…
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 04:54 PM
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Stoicism will be only thing left worth reading on here. Well it's been helpful. There were some things I know I needed to get off my chest. People patiently let me hijack threads to do so lol. Good to know you're not alone
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 04:39 PM
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Yup "as unto the Lord". That's what I was getting at and I've pointed that part out as well. Mine would always state it was mutual submission. That's the biggest misnomer in modern Christianity. I even pointed out the fallacy if that. The NIV out that verse in the wrong place. The original wasn't split into sections but that submitting to open another in mutual love was the end of the previous statement about the brethren. I always thought growing up that was an odd way to open. When you look at…
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 04:36 PM
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Yeah near the end I basically treated her in my mind as an unbeliever. It said it an unbeliever wants to leave let them go so I did. She seems fired up before marriage but that illusion quickly fell apart. Wasnt long after studying the Bible with her that she couldn't handle the harsher truths and I was seen as legalistic. My buddies told me later they always thought she came across very liberal and strange in group studies. She'd mock ne when I read the Bible st night because I made mistakes ba…
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 04:18 PM
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That's insane. Who really spends that much? Jeez. Does her vagina cure cancer or siemthing? Even being married almost 10 years I don't remember spending 200 on an evening very often.... Maybe on something like cirque du Soleil or dinner and opera. So like twice? Never spent that before marriage guaranteed. I mean a pretty fancy restaurant here is 50 a plate. Is this NYC or something? Even then wasn't very often.. even she didn't feel right spending that often . No way on a first date on someone …
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 03:11 PM
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Also from Christian background and married at just barely 24. I was a a virgin... Also very naiive. She was older and had a sketchy oast. I overlooked a tin of red flags too. Never cheated in me. I also heard the word potential. What it meant in my case was she never actually loved me but thought she 'could'. Explains that while I bent over backwards nothing was ever good enough... Although I think she was bpd. Everything was a crisis and she was a mess. Once we weres done having kids she didn't…
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 06:11 AM
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Eh I get the annoyance though. Means he has to pay more money to get an attorney to handle it when it shouldn't be necessary to begin with
/r/Divorce_Men28/06/20 02:32 AM
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Yeah I call bs.females always make it about them. Hell I was never allowed to be the victim in my marriage ever. If she ever wronged Mr she always found a way to turn the tables. Over nearly 10 years I can count on one hand how many times I heard her say I'm sorry
/r/MGTOW27/06/20 11:07 PM
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It IS an easy job. My industry has boom a f bust cycles to been home a few months before. Got so bored after a few weeks. Heck even when I was working and she wasn't I had most of responsibility for them in evenings and weekends. I feel like a lot of my guy friends are the same. Heck... It's only hard once you're a single parent and have to somehow make your schedule work with kids and job and pickups etc. If single parents can do it then surely it can't be that hard to stay home and only do tha…
/r/MGTOW27/06/20 11:05 PM
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Yeah it's a grear sub. The stoicism one has some decent posts too
/r/MGTOW27/06/20 03:52 AM
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I often think I'd be too nervous just to drive one of those big RVs. Yeah screw that lol
/r/MGTOW27/06/20 02:39 AM
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Yup. Ours wasn't court ordered or anything. We started with mediation. The woman flat out didn't read my emails properly and backed off what she told me was fair the second my ex said no. I fired her and lawyered up. Alreayd paid her lump sum so was a waste of money
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/20 02:28 AM
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Same experience here. I a taully realized it was all bullshit about 2 years before she pulled the trigger on the divorce. Like you said it was a one way street and yet she still was apparently so unsatisfied. Don't get me wrong.. I basically said let's try to fix this or honour own ways. I'd already checked out other places to live. Just trigger shy with kids and alreayd decided I wouldn't try with anyone else if it didn't work so want in a hurry to end it. What they say is true that marriage ta…
/r/MGTOW27/06/20 02:25 AM
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A lot of people would say this is sexist but I agree. Men and women are just flat out different. The reality is guys have traits that are more oriented towards leadership. Ok not all guys . But those traits are more concentrated and more likely to find in men. I've always been hesitant to vote for women to lead the province or anything like that and it's not because I think they're inferior or something like that.
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 10:16 PM
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Eh like I said almost every lawyer i was looking to hire told me right away that when young they'd typically go wtih her. One or two sorta avoided answering directly.
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/20 05:50 PM
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I think it also depends on age of kids. I really want 50/50 but even lawyers I consulted to possibly hire. Almost all of them said at age of my youngest it's standard to stay with who has been primary caretaker. Some remained silent but no one seemed to support my desire for 50/50 directly. Best I got was you seem like a fairly invovvked father. This is in Canada Or course the women themselves are always happy to poiint out it could be better for the kids... In sitting here even now wondering if…
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/20 05:23 PM
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Yeah it's pretty damn daunting isn't it? My wife was lazy and a year into marriage got laid off and never bothered looking for a full time after. Cited her back issues etc. Two kids. Wife always relied on her rich family and said she didn't have to work. Now trying to get every last penny back. Prob gonna be staying in a nice big fully paid house. I'll be moving to a two bedroom basement and will be tough to save any money at end if month between rent, child support, any daycare expenses.... Mig…
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/20 05:03 PM
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Yeah amazing what they'll do to put a feather in their hat. My ex had a rich family. They wanted to help out.. I never wanted to hear about it, but wife wanted a certain lifestyle. Shed sometimes visit back home and make 10s if thousand from her uncle just for looking after her grandma for a few weeks. Otherwise she never worked and even sent youngest to daycare a couple days a week. I looked after them mostly evenings and weekends. Shed often brag about her contributions and how much she made i…
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 04:53 PM
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We live in a clown world. We had that thread where apparently a dad can't be upset his daughter is doing onlyfans and it's none of his business despite raising her and teaching her right from wrong for 18 years prior. Apparently it's also not considered immoral now somehow. However apparently there same people can try to shame you for dating a fully consenting adults that's too much younger than you
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 01:59 PM
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I know here it doesn't really matter. Curious how proving it would help. I'd just move on
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/20 01:50 AM
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My ex used to be hot back in the day and very much a Karen... She's probably got even worse with age though.
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 01:42 AM
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So basically women most desirable around 20. Guys most desirable from about 25 until 40 when they start wanting guys actually younger then them. In between around same age. Could just be that men age like fine wine and women age like milk lol Also they should learn context and definitions. Note that the question is most desirable .. it doesn't mean most guys wont just settle for not fat and not bitchy. I can have a huge tolerance (and honestly think I did when I was looking) but that doesn't mea…
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 12:45 AM
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Yeah I quickly realized that after my second kid . A little too late. Was very hesitant about the second... She suddenly started behaving better even though sex wise she wasn't comfortable but toughed it out. The moment t She got that + the sex was gone altogether and bitchiness came back. After no sex for a while I realized I was just a sperm donor and those people who asked if I was sure if she loved me before marriage were 100% right. It also explained why she gave ultimatums on the regular b…
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 04:06 PM
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Yeah my bday as on 19th. I dunno I havent done anything special for my bday in a few years snow. Certainly wasn't expecting anything this time since we have been in divorce process as while. Ordered food saying she'd pay for it . Nevermind fact anything she'd been transferring has been money she's saved while I'm only one working or gifts from here family. All still our money til we split it all up. She was being naggy at times both days but don't expect much at this point. She did help my daugh…
/r/Divorce_Men24/06/20 03:48 PM
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I'm not that much higher at 34... Sadly I was maxing out my retirement savings every year until after first year of marriage.. then you can imagine what happened. I I had equity in a house too but I'm basically just walking away with the 200k between retirement and tax free savings account. Or course our entire industry has been shit the last several years and about to be laid off noe that my project is over while splitting assets in divorce. Never marry folks
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 03:34 PM
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Mine was the same. Always asked me to add basic numbers together. Shed actuallt get our daughter to do work books at home and they'd be grade 2 stuff and she'd mark it with the answer key. Asks me to mark and is like want the answer key? It's faster.. I'm like hell no. Doing a bit of mental math is never bad and I can fly through these as fast as it takes to look at the other sheet of paper.
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 03:31 PM
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I had to restrain myself. In a divorce thread some woman was complaining and asking why guys always take so much more than they give... I'm like excuse me? Mime was completely lazy and expected me to do everything and I know many others that feel the same . In fact some guys are finding girls in their 20s don't even know how to maintain a home. I wonder if she's a bit older. I got into explaining how there has been a transition and I actually think there is some confusion between roles in the mi…
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 03:12 PM
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Agreed with this. Actually there is a girl I worked with. Likes watching anime... Plays odd video game, very family oriented, takes good care of her parents, cute but was a tom boy growing up so comes across down to earth. Got engaged around 20 and married early 20s.. I'm thinking this guy might actually be pretty lucky .. certainly better off then most... But then I see some red flags like the fact that she talks to a lot of us make coworkers and keeps in touch, she has a kid but during pregnan…
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 03:06 PM
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Not gonna say people can't drink, I personally wouldn't miss it but I enjoy the odd beer or somr white wine with a meal. I'd just say if you're bored without it or feel like you need it to have fun I'd suggest investing in some hobbies. I find some people they only habit they have is drinking and often not the most fun people to be around
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 05:39 PM
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I actually agree with this part. Too many tag lines and comes across as someone brainwashed with no thoughts of their own. It's either that or its her female selective memory that misses any and all context.
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 05:27 PM
1

Yeah I'm aware of rum runners and stuff. Same problems today with it legal.. goal posts just moved and now it's other drugs being moved. They will always smuggle something illegally even if you legalize others. I'm under no delusion it will actually happen. Seemed like a bad argument though.. but guess gov needs that tax money and got even more now that MJ is taxed
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 05:24 PM
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As a society we are obsessed with alcohol and social drinking. I drank a bit last year of high school and a couple years in tech school then didn't see much need for it. Was sorts fun for a bit but nothing more fun that people with actual hobbies cant have. Too many people where their only hobby seen to be drinking and partying. No net positive over long run, but plenty have ruined their lives with it. It's also very expensive. I'll have a fee drinks a year. All in all its a net drain in society…
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 04:47 PM
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This seems pretty spot in really. Always nice to get confirmation from a 3rd party observing from a distance
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 04:23 PM
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Kinds seems like wrong sub to put it? Like I thought the idea was y It was supposed to be passive aggressive guys who claim they're a tually so nice. Dont see op trying to come across as anything but an ahole who just doesn't care lol
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 04:13 PM
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Well mine could cook decently, did a bit of laundry and running out to do errands, but.... The lazy woman didn't work and hadn't since being laid off a year in (almost 10 year marriage). With our youngest she wasn't to a preschool 4 days a week. With our second money was tighere and went 2 days a week. Guess who looked after them mostly on weekends and as soon as he got off work? Oh and she complained she always had to cook and was sick of cooking and I should do it at least a couple times a wee…
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 02:58 PM
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I live in Alberta and work in oil and gas. It's pretty normal for there to be a boom for a fee years then everyone gets laid off then get hired back for more.. although that last part hasn't been true in several years now. People kept saying for years now how young guys would see all the money and buy brand new trucks, get them lifted etc .. unfrotunately I missed most of the glory days. I joined in 2012 and made good money for a fee years then lost my job end of 2015. Took a survival job for 30…
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 02:25 PM
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As someone who else also known as being way too accommodating I started down the mediation road instead with her saying she wanted a quick anmicabke divorce. Well of course she was saying she wanted it amicable but only if her rich family got back every last penny that they'd tifen cover the 10 years. She counted as a 'debt' against and had noted showing it as a loan I'd never seen before. Mediator just listened to loudest voice. I almost just gave in and moved on but she pushed too damn far and…
/r/Divorce_Men22/06/20 10:40 PM
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People still try to call it a patriarchy but in this society look at who you're not allowed to criticize or in this case even try to come alongside and support
/r/MensRights22/06/20 08:55 PM
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2 kids, 3 and 7 Agreed separation date was last Jan 2019. Would have been 10 years come this July 17 Alberta, Canada Divorce.. in all reality I don't think she even loved me when She married me. Put on a pretty good act when she started wanting kids and moving into new house. Still lots of arguments over the years. The moment she got that second + oreg test sex was gone cold turkey wasn't too much linger respect went out the door too. Tried counselling and she decided she basically could do bett…
/r/Divorce_Men22/06/20 07:34 PM
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That's how msyekf and many other guys would describe it too. Only took me one marriage myself. Never again. Life just so much less complicated and less stressful without a long term relationship. Can do whatever you want and don't have to collect clutter, buy a bigger house to collect more clutter, etc.
/r/Divorce_Men22/06/20 05:26 PM
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Just another reminder for me not to get married again. Good grief . Seems you managed to hold onto your sanity
/r/Divorce_Men22/06/20 04:51 PM
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Unicorns don't exist, every ex is a bad ex. You're in a brand new relationship... Give it time and the rough edges will show up. Be on the lookout for them and decide if you can live with them or not. Personally I see little benefit since I already have kids. Would rather keep life uncomplicated
/r/Divorce_Men22/06/20 02:59 PM
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Unfortunately for some of us who found mgtow during or after our marriage those first two points don't apply :( at least if we had kids, but Godspeed to those who you were fortunate to discover mgtow early. Actually I can do whatever I want at least half the time.. and even then can take kids along for some of it
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 02:51 PM
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Yeah I have two and this society has me worried sick. Have so much deprogramming to do all the time. SW that these yesterday about the dudes daughter doing porn and him cutting off her school tuition. Amazing how many said YTA and legitimizing it as a valid profession and saying it's none of his business... Her own damn father. If it's not his then who's business is it? It's become clear society thinks mom and dad are no longer the ones teaching right from wrong and keeping their kids accountabl…
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 01:49 PM
5

Yup but the fact they're the exception and not the norm, also fading fast, means odds are greatly stacked against you and the risk is too high
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 01:45 PM
11

Yeah I tried the same approach. Listened to all the Christian leaders say wives weren't for making life easy, they were for making you more holy and all that lol... Well by the time she decided once and for all she wanted to leaves I didn't want to stop her anymore. For many years I'd still sing and hum shortly after a fight and it would just make her angry and think I didn't care. By the end I was no longer as easy going and at peace as i usually am, but now that we are divorcing my own family …
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 01:40 PM
4

Mine just married a man she didn't love and resented him most of the way... Put on a good act when she wanted something like 2 kids or a nice house. Once she got all that there was no reason for the act anymore but realized looking back it was always there and she defended herself saying she could have grown to love me because I had potential. Others just get bored after a while
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 01:29 PM
1

Nah not that part. Dude wants nudes and talks about having threesomes and you decide to hang out with him alone somehow. That's what I meant but yeah the sobbing part is probably where Amy reasonable person would have asked if everything was alright instead of just wanting to finish off Yeah he made his intentions pretty clear from the get go but in no way does that mean she wasn't allowed to change her mind at any point. Just have to wonder when she had regrets. Was it halfway through the act o…
/r/MensRights22/06/20 03:35 AM
1

Eh the early Ines were fun enough. Just lost interest when they started releasing the coffee mod and allowing you to bang hookers then kill them and take money back and stuff lol. Just felt I was sorta outta target audience at that point j guess
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 08:58 PM
1

Ok it if she's giving him signals she's into it should he held liable on criminal charges? Not about judging her really
/r/MensRights21/06/20 06:28 PM
0

Not saying rockstar is woke. One of their latest is a boring cowboy sim. Other one celebrating degeneracy. I dunno. I just find when they try to cram sex into games and bragging about it kinda cringey. Like banging prostitutes in GTA or all the sex scenes in witcher I probably would have enjoyed it when I was a teenager. I'm 34 now so does nothing for me... Just not the target audience k guess.. annoying when they pass it off as nature or adult or whatever.
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 06:27 PM
0

That's the thing. Never cared for the story or the characters in the first one. I pretty much knew everything that was going to happen before it did. I didn't like Joel or Ellie. Joel had almost no personality. Ellie was a bratty teenager who thought she was so cool swearing all the time. I dunno. Never play games for story.. even the best stories hold up poorly compared to a book or movie. Lore I'd another story.. liked lore in Bloodborne Nd also in God if War.. actually surprisingly I actually…
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 04:55 PM
1

Should he have given her option of deleting it all a d then he'd support her? Meh probably not. She shosuktn have to be paid to not be a whore. She's made her bed and now she has to lie in it. More money for dad's retirement. Shoudont feel entitled to get a full ride through to begin with. I paid half of mine, many take loans and pay all of theirs through scholarships, loans, part time work Edit: ok so I've read a lot of the comments and holy crap this society has gone to hell. People literally …
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 03:20 PM
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Don't think I've liked a naught dog game that much since first 3 Uncharted games. 4th was ok but too padded. Lost legacy was forgettable. I see on NeoGAF a lot of praise for Rockstar, Naughty Dog, and CDPR as like the greatest studios (although some hating on wholeness of this). Gotta say none of those studios pique my interest at all. Cdpr. The witcher looked like crap combat and was already turned off when they bragged about how much sex scenes. Now cyberpunk has more of that and LGBTQ stuff. …
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 02:46 PM
7

I gotta be honest.. I thought the first one was extremely overrated. Gameplay was mediocre, story was a bunch of.cliches and predictable. I think maybe what I also saw differently was I never liked Joel and Ellie. I cringed every time the little potty mouth got into a stream or curses like some edgy crap. So even before all the woke crap I had no hype for this. I'll say first one started to get better in winter with that creepy dude after Ellie and I liked the hospital at end where you to find a…
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 02:42 PM
1

No idea.who this guy is tbh and he could very well be creepy. But if you're arguing a 17 year old isn't mature mentally I agree. A 20 year likely isn't either that only 3 year difference. 16 year olds and 13 year olds book up all the time which is worse imo. My comment about her physical appearance was in relation to her comment or 'oh my goodness he said I was beautiful and I'm only 17 which is mostly irrelevant when it comes to looks. Sure the guy could be a creep by the sounds of it. Apparent…
/r/MensRights21/06/20 02:35 PM
3

Maybe not but do guys demand their wives make 6 figures? Most guys couldn't care less. I tend to think guys are also a bit more forgiving in the looks department.. heck they have to be due to how thirsty most guys are. Like supply and demand
/r/MensRights20/06/20 09:59 PM
4

They'll either keep getting used and abused or maybe they'll someday wake up and realize we are right. I'm from a traditional Christian home and even my old man is realizing when he looked at my marriage and my sisters marriage.. saying in both cases wives don't respect their husbands much... Looking at how irresponsible my other sister could be and how she had treated boyfriends .. he's saying my age may have been considered chauvinistic and we expected a lot out of our wives but I can't help b…
/r/MGTOW20/06/20 04:36 PM
1

Yeah all we can really do.is try to sympathize. It's very strange his behaviour... As another said he could have suddenly snapped and had some mental health issue and/or his new gf could also be doing her best to make sure he cuts off all contact. Was trying to think if some scenario where he finds out he only has so long to live or something but sounds like he started a new life so prob not. All I know if that's a pretty crappy thing to do to you all. You may never find out why. As your therapi…
/r/Divorce_Men20/06/20 03:40 PM
6

Id assume some form of guilt and not being able to face you guys. Shame is a powerful thing. Worries about being judged.. trying to run away and escape all that I'd guess I know my sis removed my parents as friends in Facebook and cut off contact when she divorced for fear of judgement. I had a hard time telling my parents about mine .. put it off a long time but they made it easy when I did work up the courage to tell them
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/20 10:33 PM
2

If nothing else it's pretty damn stupid to call him a pedo. Would they say the same if she was 18 and he was 21?
/r/MensRights19/06/20 10:16 PM
2

Yeah shit... I mean I thought it was kinda creepy all the 17 year olds having sex with the 13 year olds in high school but was normal enough it was just accepted. Big difference when it's 20/17... I guess I missed the part about crying. I personally would have asked if she was ok and if something was wrong....have to wonder why she never said no.. sounds more like she was more in the fence and wasn't sure what she wanted
/r/MensRights19/06/20 10:12 PM
10

I've personally wondered how convenient it must be, but don't think I could do it because of my strong convictions and faith.. but I've also wondered what if you get caught and charged. You'd lose your job and could really hurt chances of future employment I would think
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 10:03 PM
3

Will be interesting when more details emerge... Sounds like he was already asking her for nudes and saying he wanted a threesome but she still ended up getting together with him alone for some reason? Making a huge deal about being told beautiful at only 17. Last I checked most women are fully physically mature at that age but still maybe have some mental growing up and he was only 3 years older?
/r/MensRights19/06/20 10:00 PM
6

Stopped skimming through when I saw men being controlling. I can't even think of any guys I know that would fall under that category.. in the other hand my ex, my sister, ay least a couple wives from coupled I know from church . I dunno. In my little bubble every person id fall controlling is a woman so it just seems absorb to attribute that characteristic to a guy, even though I know they're out there.. I mean heck we even have the Karen meme... Is that not a controlling person?
/r/MensRights19/06/20 09:14 PM
1

I think I've only been to the second one the odd time.. I believe the criticism it received is that there are a few kicking around there that still seem to be in hopes that they'll find their unicorn. There has been the odd thread indicating such or what looks like white knighting. I do agree on here some dudes do come across that they just flat out are disgusted by women or hate them.. I'd say it's only a few through and as you mentioned its red pill rage stage. Honestly let them get it off the…
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 09:11 PM
1

Eh fair points. And yeah.. I know from experience in last couple years if marriage spending really crept up. Not even on stupid material goods you'd think were irresponsible. Even just over insuring for life insurance and stuff like that. Or risky investments. It wanting kids to be in all the different special programs almost every day of the week
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 08:53 PM
1

Kinda thought it looked like her. Always thought if she wasn't so damn trashy she'd be attractive.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 08:52 PM
7

Can't help but feel this is some form of trap.... Using an awful lot of buzzwords and coming off a bit more extreme than the majority of normals here... Feels like bait I think very few men feel the children shouldnt have access to their mother. In most cases (including my own) the mother tried to ask for 70/30 or more where they get max child support and dad just wants 50/50 which is fair. So myself and many others wouldn't push for primary custody unless she was abusive or didn't know how to t…
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 07:51 PM
3

Hate to break it to ya sweetheart but if the guy works a decent job and can retire on time and can actually afford 2+ vacations a year then he doesn't have time for that shit unless you just mean like a few days somewhere maybe Also what the hell is wrong with roommates? If you don't own your own place yet then it's a smart way to save a bit of money. Have to wonder if the cheating thing is a projection
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 06:35 PM
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Meh never cared for them either. Even when I was at tech school I'd prefer to just drink with my roommates or maybe have over a couple others. Some people feel energized being around lots of other people, I feel it drains me. Introverts/extrovert stuff
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 05:51 PM
2

Just curious if guys can sign up and let women bid on them lol... Unless you are Chad probably pointless anyways
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 04:54 PM
3

Havent gotten drink in 12 years? Will have 2 drinks maybe then stop. Problem solved. I dunno. I had my drunk adventures for 3 or 4 years and then didn't see a point in it. But just don't let yourself get out of control. I think self control and moderation and things worth striving for
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 04:51 PM
1

That and she looks like a robot now
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 04:49 PM
2

Agreed... We will see how it goes now that they've known I'm divorcing for a while now... And will be done soon.. BUT deosite being married my best bud agreed a couple years ago marriage is bs and doesn't benefit men much. He had enough himself but put his foot down and she listened (and quite frankly has always allowed him a fair bit if personal space and time). My other buddy was more a tradcuck like me and he's still married... Very much a Christian world view but can see how there is an agen…
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 04:37 PM
62

Glad I have no idea what a snapchat score is. If assume it has something to do with amount of views or something. Sounds more like snatchchat... Am I right?
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 03:46 PM
7

One on the left ain't round . Just saying.. that shit is drooping. If the one in the right actually had a good personality, no tattoos, could do housework, and was loyal then she's fine (I think? Looks like she's arching and sticking her butt out at expense of looking like her tummy is bigger) .. although in very real danger of blowing up in a few years...
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 03:43 PM
4

Honestly i wasn't even thinking about money. It's how much it can mess you up emotionally, self esteem, all that... Was wondering the other night how I hung in as long as I did and kept my sanity. The amount of crticiism and abuse i absorbed. Money still have to finish sorting that out. And yeah it's gonna hurt as well.. as long as I have enough left and monthly expenses aren't too high I can rebuild. I worry about my kids too. Want to have decent amount of time with them with such a demanding j…
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 03:34 PM
15

I was so naiive. Had no idea how badly a marriage could mess a guy up before taking the plunge. It's really far more than anyone would ever tell you. Definitely a decision I made too lightly. Also underestimated how cruel someone could be even when you stay firm in trying to be kind. I really thought a lot of it was in my control and that it takes two to argue etc . Man... Turns out they're actually able to keep going for a quite a while even when you go silent or try to walk away
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 02:37 PM
7

I'd further that question. Do you want to introduce a girl who uses tinder (is that what this is?) Or bangs on the first date to your family?
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 02:22 PM
6

Honestly if my parents didn't live 3000km away I'd be happy to have them help with my kids when I'm working and stuff.. still trying to figure out if I'll have anything left at the end of the month once i move out and start paying by child support , alimony etc. And the. Before/after care and day care for the other. Feel like im dirt poor now and will be looking for a basement with 2 bedrooms.. will share with the boy when the kids are mine. Would prefer with my parents and giving them utilities…
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/20 01:21 AM
2

Yeah my mom is a pretty good, submissive woman . When I look back though... Eh they're more the roommate type in all honesty. They each do their own thing and sure they care about each other but... Anyways still better than a lot of couples but I think I'd rather just be single. But yeah that great for your folks. For some reason the blonde hair, blue eyes never did it for me. Always liked darker, exotic looking features
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 12:50 AM
2

Guess even when the drug (hormones) wear off after the first couple years at that point you're too invested and convince yourself it's not so bad. I suppose I may have done so for a while.
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 10:33 PM
2

Lol that last part for me. Sometimes we forget to go into the literal definition of words. Probably not exactly what he meant but yeah. Nobody wants to think they messed up but time and everything they've believe their whole life is false
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 10:31 PM
5

Ok our notes pretty much match. Just wanted a sanity check I guess. I truly think some people are truly lying to themselves. I probably did for a while too. I'd often make excuses for abusive and manipulative behaviour. Still never would have called it exceptional to anyone or tried to recruit I don't think. Was just wondering right now why literally no one will tell you otherwise to you're face, even those that have divorced. I think another aspect is even those that have suffered the worst don…
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 09:41 PM
6

I get that commercialism does drive some of it.. but why do individuals perpetuate the lie as well? I wouldn't tell people it was shit when I was married but I never want so far as to say it was great and you should sign up. I mean even the guy today saying everyone in his circle had exceptional marriage but wasn't even enthusiastic enough to go into any further detail then that and for some reason was on a divorce forum. A part of me is like an I cynical that I just cant accept things like that…
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 09:32 PM
3

Wish that was always the case. Becomes more complicated when family gifts / loans come into the picture. There is the legal side and the morale side at that point. Her lawyer will argue they are loans, mine will argue they aren't . I feel morally I should respect some of it and let her keep the house, but not get every last penny that was given like she thinks.
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/20 08:55 PM
2

Id be curious how long you and your brother have been married. Only guys I've encountered that felt that way was in first few years if marriage. I later realized even my own parents marriage was workable but not so great as maybe I grew up thinking. I mean hey if it works great. You're one of the lucky few that actually feels their life is better
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/20 07:32 PM
8

I actually remember when a previous cat of mine was still a kitten. Had gone away for a while and ledt him with someone else. First night I got back and woke up in night and felt something warm around my neck. The little guy had sprawled his little tummy across my neck at some poiint like he was trying to get as close as he possible could to my head
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 04:57 PM
8

While waiting to finalize divorce and move out we are fostering a rescue cat. Last one was very much a people person and a great cat. This is a younger one that is so shy and nervous he was shaking... Ive taken it so personally to try and gently ease him in and he was just warning up to me a bit when I found a quiet time to approach him 1v1. I was a very shy kid and still have some insecurities and I feel so sympathetic to him.
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 04:55 PM
3

I'm just amazed you still call her your best friend. Sure I was friends with my wife before marriage (def not best) but last couple years of marriage realized I wouldn't even have been friends with her if I met her today. Makes me wonder why it broke down . She must have not have felt the same. But it's good you aren't holding onto bitterness. Glad to hear things are looking up. Im trying to finalize my divorce and move out and in some ways looking so daunting. On other hand like yourself there …
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/20 04:34 PM
3

Out of all the married couples even in the church I met during my 20 years of marriage I don't think I've ever seen a husband who didn't give up or sacrifice at least a few things he really liked doing. I always hear yours just want a good marriage but have yet to see these life giving marriages i hear about but seem to be mythical. At best 'it works' or is tolerable. Even the ones you think are in bliss that illusion falls apart when you get to know them a lot better
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/20 04:28 PM
7

As someone divorcing a prenup to claw back a bit of the money would only be a bit of consolation. I was in bed last night unpacking all the emotional damage that was done over the years and wondering how the hell I came out of it still somewhat sane. There are a couple friendships and a family member works m hoping I can reconnect with after basically losing them during it
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 04:24 PM
3

Somehow you need to learn to live without codependency. If you don't the next one is gonna end in heartache too. It can't possibly end well if you're relying on one person to be the whole source of your happiness. Therapy, hitting the gym, sometime just peace and quiet on the side of a mountain somewhere .. it's not healthy to be so desperate for that one person. Learn to love yourself and spending time with yourself mix in some solid friendships. You've put your ex on this crazy pedestal. She d…
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/20 04:11 PM
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Despite their selfish reputation cats can be incredibly cuddly too... Their personalities just vary a lot lol... I kinda want another when I move out... But I'm allergic to both cats and dogs .. funny cause I've had cats most if my life . Maybe it's ok, just need to make sure the new place will allow
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 03:26 PM
5

Just end me when that happens. Working in a professional office with former onlyfans and chatterbate girls....
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 10:41 PM
5

It's both a gender issue and a status/wealth issue. If you're a woman you're likely to get off. If you're a normal kan you're screwed. If you're a rich or hgih status guy you might be able to get off.. although even then most of them don't . Just in general if you're rich and successful you get off criminal charges easier. Look at all the athletes and celebrities that kill someone while under the influence and get a slap on the wrist.
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 09:26 PM
2

People pointing out that must have been the mom and she got admitted after trying to flee. Mental health issues are legit.. in thinking mental health or not the mom shouldn't try to be a get away vehicle after vandalizing someone's vehicle .... Surely should stay, talk to cops, explain her daughter's issues and arrange to pay for the damages....
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 09:15 PM
32

I've known local guys here in Alberta that have worked on Saudi jobs. They will approve or reject every person the EPCM wants on their jobs. I've heard if you have a Jewish sounding last name forget it.. I think one guy said even Russians or something get rejected because many moved there? Not sure about that one
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 08:55 PM
47

Certainly a step in the right direction
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 08:07 PM
8

Yeah see athletes who have panties in a bunch because he makes 12 mile a year and another makes 15. It's not because he needs that extra 3 for anything. It's pride mostly
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 07:20 PM
1

Apparently living very comfortably with a man you're supposed to love isn't enough. If they aren't getting prizes when they leave they won't marry you
/r/MensRights17/06/20 06:29 PM
8

If we are being serious here is sooner work overtime or find a little side job then lose any and all dignity, self respect, integrity but inguess at only 20 that's a lot. She can only do it so long though and then have to explain to an employer what she was doing with gaps in resume or possibly lose a job over it
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 06:08 PM
2

Nah man you didn't screw up in that sense. Nobody can be expected to be on the ball all the time or not make mistakes. That's the problem with playing the game at all. If you think someday you will be able to do that you're setting yourself up to fail. Just shows how rediculous their expectations are and you'd never expect the same from them. That type of mindset is just putting them on a pedestal
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 05:30 PM
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I think his point was the double standard. Nobody picks apart bad mother's on mother's Day... But in Father's day women will choose to make it about them being a single mom or why certain dada aren't worthy etc. But yeah inheard you last line should just be so dad's can have their day and be celebrated or something
/r/MensRights17/06/20 04:11 PM
3

Guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore... Unreal the hamster wheel is turning with that one
/r/MensRights17/06/20 03:40 AM
2

Sorry least. Hate typing on phones it's like every few words
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 12:54 AM
24

That's brutal and confirms basically what I always suspected
/r/MensRights16/06/20 11:57 PM
3

As a man who has been married if it's 15k without food it's going to be way more. Food is the biggest cost.. or at least I believe it was for mine... Gonna be at Keats a few thousand even if only 100 guests . Yeah ours was originally somewhere around there I think.. but they messed up with service and food bill ended up being waived which was amazing even though it was terrible service. Of course 'Karen' still thifuht we should be further compensated lmao
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 11:10 PM
9

When it comes to provincial premiers, prime minister's or in other countries presidents. I do. I wouldn't vote for a woman unless the men were all truly terrible or very much against my views. I just feel men were created and intended for leadership. That's how God created them. Just hard wired that way. Different strengths and weaknesses. Not being superior / inferior. Scriptures speak about woman leading nations as a bad sign.
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 10:58 PM
3

Ah it does say a white couple. Fair play guess I followed op title too much
/r/MensRights16/06/20 09:54 PM
14

Are you my best buddy? Cause he's used the attack or apache helicopter line before when we have a laugh about all these identities of people
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 07:24 PM
2

Thanks... Yeah was just constant state of walking on eggshells, her perpetual state of victimhood and explosive reactions that were so disproportionate and inappropriate for the situation.. Make sure to self care and keep a lookout for things with yourself but also that she doesn't have her family rub off on her too much
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 06:04 PM
2

Oh that was how her mother treated her as a child. Not how she treated me or our kids. She just started to show some of the same pettiness, looked down on me for only being a tech school grad, became clear later that money, status, etc was more important than she let on. I saw gradually how she treated others, was a Karen. We definitely had some major issues initially... Then things seemed to get better so we had a kid .. things got worse during pregnancy then fun after birth... Then worse again…
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 05:55 PM
2

Yeah just keep your eyes open. Her mother would call her tainted since she had some of her dad's darker complexion, shed beat her (one teacher saw bruises and warned her), she had to stop her mom from jumping a few times. It's no wonder my ex had so many issues. I can say becoming like her is the last thing she wanted and def some ways shes not.
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 05:32 PM
2

Couldn't stand my mother in law or her sisters. She was the most petty, calculating, greedy person who was all about status. Would treat you based on it too. Her own siblings and her daughter didn't really like her. Was more just about appeasing her and bit getting on her bad side. The guys in that family were ok.. the longer my marriage went on the more my wife became her mother despite her wanting to make sure she didn't. So hopefully doesn't happen to you....
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 05:24 PM
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Sure... But without evidence will anything be done? Even this Barbara can deny and it became a he said/she said. It's no different than when filling out recruitment info for any major company and asks you I'd you are a visible minority. Can either not answer which means I'm white or say I'm white combined with being a male. Either way means I'm probably less likely to get the job over someone with similar qualifications
/r/MensRights16/06/20 05:19 PM
7

Disagree... I'd be almost willing to bet husband is a quieter, more reserved type who didn't have a lot if experience with women and got roped in by her only to find her true self later. Happens all the damn time. Nice easy going guys with cunts
/r/MensRights16/06/20 05:09 PM
13

What drives me nuts is the person saying it made their Monday better. Like yeah punish the husband.... I'm sure the woman still thinks life is wonderful while her husband is struggling and under justice served
/r/MensRights16/06/20 05:07 PM
4

Yup. Losing a chunk of money definitely isn't the worst aspext of my 10 year marriage coming to an end. So much damage emotionally throughout marriage, self esteem was shot, gonna have to share my kids, child support that cripples my monthly cash flow.
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 04:59 PM
4

Yeah that too. Also last thing you want is a woman who wants to leave but stays because she doesn't get her cash and prizes if you entered marriage wealthy already .. more likely to just do bare minimum to keep you, sneak behind your back, etc. It's a lose lose.. better to jute not marry
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 04:54 PM
8

Before when I was bluepilled I always thought it was just planning for failure, that you're showing even before marriage you cant trust your partner. The difference. Is is that I KNOW you can't trust them so forget the prenup, forget marriage. If you need an insurance policy you already know it's a bad deal. Prenup only protects the financial aspect really... Also won't protect you from child support which is one of the more crippling aspects of divorce. If I still had my full income I could han…
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 04:43 PM
14

Sinks a whole year's salary into a car. Sounds pretty shitty with money
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 03:47 PM
3

Goodness. poor dude just in denial... It gonna laugh the 'sorry dude's in the bathroom kinds had me laughing a bit in such a crappy situation. At least he wasn't dumb enough to take it out on that dude when she's the one that should be sorry.. dunno how he can say he still loves such a tramp and backstabber. But i guess he's still processing. Amazing how it can take so much to remove the veil of this innocent being
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 03:38 PM
2

Yeah friendships are great and it other person is taking advantage easy enough to distance .. the problem problem with some day and that person who may or may not exist is that guys are always fooled into thinking they've found that person and it's too late when they find out they're actually wrong. Nobody marries thinking they haven't found that special someone . It's not even necessarily their fault it's the expectations society puts that's so skewed. Guys just expected to always sacrifice, al…
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 02:59 PM
22

Try not withholding sex from your husband... Maybe he should have a prenup that days if he doesn't get sexed up at least a couple times a week you get nothing
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 02:26 PM
3

Saved for later. Very long lol... But yeah Paul often said being single was preferable. Proverbs warned about the nature of women.. and Solomon of all people who know lol..m too many was his biggest downfall. Personally through a good chunk of my marriage the whole it is better to live on the corner of a roof than to be with a contentious wife spoke deeply to me... I can also say I thought when we married we'd encourage each other in our faith. Instead she didn't take too kindly how I actually t…
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 01:35 PM
1

Eh like I said it's not all about getting laid either. People in general treat ugly people as lesser. And yeah the only time I think I've seen truly ugly people getting laid is with other ugly people. Unless the other person is really drunk or something maybe. Well to be fair easier for ugly girls. Some guys are known to bang fatties and stuff from time to time. Ugly guy? Forget it... When even ugly girls get that one time with a horny Chad they won't settle for their own level after.
/r/MensRights16/06/20 01:25 PM
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Meh too many games and constantly looking over your shoulder. Really not worth it. Better to live simply and peacefully. Actually a simple life is one of the hardest things to live when you're in a LTR
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 12:58 PM
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Good to know. Hopefully you're making it through this one ok. It's really rough right now everyone at our office getting laid off.. Ive been working with an American office but they're running out as well :( I was actually in talks with another company when this whole thing started as we were all making far less after being rehired around July 2017 and saw very little increases despite all the promises. All they could offer me at the time was same rate as survival job. Also they didn't seem to c…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 11:31 PM
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Absolutely I agree. Too many people trying to add their own rules... Ive also been around those that way they won't kiss until marriage because 'you wouldn't want other guys kissing your future wife'... Like really? I kinda expect it... If that's the most she's done I'd be happy . My ex I'd tried to accept with a long sexual history which was a mistake though. So that's the other end if the pendulum. I'd say there a lot of Christian that are also far too liberal and think if it's not actual pene…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 09:53 PM
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It's just the harsh reality of being born with poor genetics sadly. It's not just with women. The sad reality is they will have to right harder for every little thing in life. I think it's absolutely cruel to shame people with the incels label. When you're tall a d good looking life is just easier. I'm probably average looking but tall and I'm sure it's helped me in my career and whatnot
/r/MensRights15/06/20 07:03 PM
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Yeah the lawyers explained that taxable benefit. When I told them mediator was just giving 3% discount for interest they scoffed. Also doesn't take into account if I lose my job or anything like that. Def won't be able to do 900. Alreayd paying 1170 for child support and 1k or so for tent and then section 7. Will be lucky to have anything left end of month altogether which is another thing. Lawyer said if based on budget there's really not much if anything left then sometimes they just say even …
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 06:51 PM
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I'd be worried about the year... I dunno. Just lots of things with older cars even with low miles. I have a 2007 car that is still low on miles but just patched a fee little holes in the floor under the gas pedals, the heat plate was falling off so resecured that... minor things but never know with siemthing that old. I'd be inclined to go with a much more basic non luxury car but newer
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 05:01 PM
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It's a damn trap is what it is lol... Mine was half Asian, raised with her Chinese side... Most proud, opinionated, strony independent types... Nothing traditional about her unless you count her staying at home taking care of the kids . But she was just lazy and didn't look for another job when she was laid off even before kids. Looks like a woman but acts like a man for most part unless she wants help with somethijt or wants me to Karen on her behalf
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 04:53 PM
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Upwards of 250 lb and smile of a jack of lantern.youte killing me dude lol. Thanks just gave me a good laugh on a morning where I have a real heavy feeling setting in
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 04:48 PM
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Calgary. Well mediator claimed every loan note was legit. When I left mediation she was keeping house, the tiny bit of equity in condo and it was up to her if she wanted an equalization payyment but was gonna let it go. Was talking about taking 20k or siemthing out if my RRSP for lump sum alimony which is when I said enough is enough. every lawyer i consulted asked me if I'd seen the loan notes before, and if I signed them. Both no. Also when we sold last house we didn't repay what was left over…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 03:26 PM
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Alberta, Canada.. ours is very complicated. There were a bunch of family gifts from her side. Hundreds of thousands. Main house and rental property. Children involved. She literally wants back every penny her family gave and I think she's trying to claim even some of the expenses for kids private school which her mom was supposed to cover. I always maintained that was something I could never afford. So she wants 75% of all assets essentially, apparently my money all went to things that are consu…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 02:49 PM
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Well I'll be one of those statistics . Certainly the divorce has nothing to do with covid. Probably many like me that are divorcing now because they started before covid.. out things on hold for a while once it started.. and still ironing things out. We knew beginning of last year we wanted to divorce.. let pastor talk us into more counselling. Still decided to divorce a few months later maybe it was... Decided to have one last Christmas a sa family.. saw mediator in January... She was the abusi…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 02:16 PM
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Not surprising. Men were constantly going off to war and dying fighting other nations. Only so many men do they had multiple wives. Just has to do with disposibility of men for the most part Oh and then there were guys like Genghis Khan who raped and pillaged and apparently almost half the world population can trace their ancestry to him somehow lol
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 01:42 PM
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Just updated my comment. Just be careful to work through it before becoming too serious with the new one. We knew beginning of last year we were headed for divorce.. sorta gave another counsellor a chance and decided fall last year to give kids one more Christmas together . Talked to mediator in New Year. Never would have thought to pursue anyone else.. then again I'm done with dating/marriage personally Oh and I think it's normal to have good and bad days and adjust
/r/Divorce_Men15/06/20 01:28 PM
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I can't really relate. My marriage was very lonely at times. More than I ever felt when I was single at any time. Inahvent moved out yet but now that we are divorcing I don't feel lonely anymore.. helps that I know I have friends and family and in some cases reconnecting with them. I feel like I'll truly be at peace once I physically get out. But yeah as others mentioned friends are super important. A couple good friends imo can easily replace a crappy spouse. Hobbies and keeping yourself busy a…
/r/Divorce_Men15/06/20 01:23 PM
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Exact definition is debated.. but I think there is plenty of evidence. What exactly do you that the the adulterous woman was doing when they were about to stone her? Even Proverbs talks about the adulterous woman who wants in the corner to ensnare young men and her oaths lead to death. It days my husband is away.. let us taste of our love tonight. Why is it that marrying another or marrying a divorced woman is considered adultery? It's obviously because they're still joined in God's eyes and you…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 12:46 PM
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No disagreements there... I've dealt with her type as well. She was hoping by putting you on an awkward situation you'd say no problem and allow her not to feel guilty of what she should do. I'm one of those people who don't like to impose and can tell when to back off asking somethin that clearly has someone uncomfortable. most reasonable people can. My ex would e one of those types to always impose and take every inch up to the point where the person axtuallyt gets pushed far enough to say no
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 03:22 AM
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Yeah that's one of those areas where you prob should have straight up told her yes you wanted it back. But I get being out in an awkward situation and I'm the type to be taken advantage of too. As others said prob had already made up her mind anyways.. just wanted absolution from you to do it which is why she got mad that you didn't give it fully. Honestly yeah let her feel bad about it. If she truly does and isn't just saying that then shed do the right thing. Guys have a habit of doing the rig…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 02:37 AM
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Welcome aboard. Yes the entitlement is out of control. Many of us has to learn the hard way.. plenty of divorces guys who are now laughing at the suckers our ex may reel in. For some reason as we talked about divorce I said well you will have to out the next guy first.. think she was talking about kids being most important thing to her. She said oh no... The kids definitely come first. I said who would sign up for being 3rd place at best.. but actually 4th because he has to put you ahead of hims…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 02:10 AM
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If you're looking for absolution from sex outside marriage you worn find it in scriptures. Quite the opposite. Paul advocated not marrying at all unless you were overcome with lust then marry to prevent sinning. He wishes all were like him and single . That food thing like circumcision was less of a sin, like the ten Commandments and more just a ritual and a thing to set them apart as his chosen people. Sexual sin is seen as a sin against ones own body and the body is to be God's Holy Temple. So…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 01:26 AM
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It absolutely forbids sex outside marriage. Paul even states he wish people would remain single but if they're burning with lust then they should marry so they don't sin. It also forbids multiple women right in Genesis where it says the two become one flesh. Did people turn w blind eye to it for much of old testament? Yes. Also notice how requirements for position in The church that elders and deacons must be a man of one wife? They were going to stone the adulterous woman for commuting adultery…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 01:22 AM
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Checks all the boxes for me. I'm trying to get this divorce settled and may only have a couple weeks of work left before no more hours. Was already worried about making ends meet with all my support obligations. I want to make sure to take care if my health which maybe I don't worry about as much since I generally have been healthy.. may be more difficult being a single dad though.. worry so much about my kids throughout this divorce and I'll admit my biggest fears is if I let them down . God fo…
/r/MensRights14/06/20 08:05 PM
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Wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.... Good grief. Their life will never be the same
/r/MensRights14/06/20 07:56 PM
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While the female gender still aren't problem free the majority of their fight ended decades ago. Those still fighting in an era where you can't even criticise a woman just want to be superior for the most part. Most don't want to be reasonable
/r/MensRights14/06/20 06:28 PM
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As a whole? No... But why worry about something you can't control? There are still pockets of decent people. Hang onto them and bless those around you in little ways that you can, be a decent human being. At least you can make your little drop in the bucket in the immediate area around you
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 05:41 PM
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If I'm gonna live in a fantasy I think the 2d one is less harmful. I can dream of her and end of day yeah she will never be real. With the real girl I can fantasize she's a unicorn who actually has my best interests .. that one is far more harmful and can ruin your life
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 05:40 PM
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To be fair when looking at demographics most police shootings were with a fun, knife, other weapon. I don't think it's fad fetched to say women don't tend to be packing weapons very often.. most carrying guns or other weapons are men. I don't think many cops go as far as killing out of prejudice much. Shaver and Floyd are anomalies. However that doesn't dismiss the fact that fact that women generally do get off easier on most offenses or the fact that there is in fact racism in the police force
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 03:55 PM
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That would be one expensive prostitute for a night. But if you actually wanted a kid, got to raise them and all that maybe :) would be getting off cheaper than most lol
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 06:02 AM
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Unfortunately many women see men primarily as providers, doers... It's what can you provide? Itss often money. In my case i wasn't wealthy but still laid the bills and I think more importantly did most things around the house too. Should have known when she said what drew her attention was my work ethic when a few of us helped her with her new place . But yeah men just seem to love women just for existing . Unconditionally I guess.. just be you... Idealist type of love where it's just the image …
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/20 05:55 AM
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Yeah there were a few people that looking back had given some hints and warnings but nobody will ever outright tell you that you're making a mistake
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 05:51 AM
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Yeah I always wondered what the hell talking to a 3rd party for an hour a week was supposed to fix. I mean years of resentment.. can't sort it out yourselves, often just different ways to viewing the world and different values but yakking about it is supposed to fix it. Well I got to point after just trying harder for years, seeinf nothing ever changed despite sacrificing so much that I said screw it lets go and we either fix it, or we go our own ways.. in fact I was even read for counsellor to …
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 03:14 AM
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Yeah i made some similar mistakes. I was working my butt off she came off as frugal and business minded. She was for a while although I questioned bow our visa bill was kinda high there was nothing obvious as I checked in occasionally. She had big ticket items though. Never could move into a house without dropping tens of thousands in renos... oh yeah and that scam I tried to convince her not to spend 40k on.. but was her families money. Of course she wants it all back now that we are divorcing …
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 02:00 AM
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Numbers wise the chances of her sticking around if she makes as much or more of you is pretty slim. It's been shown most women in that situation divorce
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/20 12:48 AM
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Some people just can't be helped or can't help themslevws... But good luck. Never understood why it seems like such a drug that junkies keep going back to despite it ruining their lives alreayd
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/20 12:25 AM
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No thanks for me but yeah you're right many do.
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/20 12:22 AM
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Goodness man. Good luck. Only took one time for me to realize the dream was a lie. No idea how people can even retire if they've gone through it a second time.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/20 07:43 PM
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I sorta drop red pills subtly with coworkers. was having a good laugh about Cutler and how he was handling his gold digging ex. He said.. yeah if you're an athlete making good money you don't even think about getting married until your career is over and your earnings are down. Was gon a say don't marry period but I watch myself a bit lol. Think he might have also said something about a surrogate lol
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 11:42 PM
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Be wary... It's a trap! Cue goldfish looking dude.
/r/MensRights12/06/20 11:38 PM
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Well I've been married and everything . At least I never spent more than $100 on an evening that I can remember. We stayed in a lot even when we were dating or did community events. Used to be up for things like goj g climbing or a hike with friends.. even went to a powwow. Yeah she became boring after marriage lol. Well I might have lied. Soent more for cirque du Soleil and of course after marriage and kids some events cost more. But divorce? Yeah it's about to ruin me financially so I'm not ge…
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 11:34 PM
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I believe one huge criticism is instead of education and birth control they spend a fortune on funding abortions in 3rd world countries. Also some cases of anti semitism
/r/MensRights12/06/20 09:26 PM
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Recently found Avery Watts through Spotify. I like the song enough... Seeks like pushing back against the 'dream' in general of getting a good job, getting married, kids etc. He has another song that mentions he won't take the blue pill. Can't remember which one
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 09:21 PM
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Eh don't need to be told in my case. Alreayd for things lined up for once I move out when I don't have the kids. Hiking, gym, buddy what's to start d&d, catching up with old friends and sis and husband I lost touch with. After years of being a prisoner in my own home essentially ice got plenty to look forward to. Think I might also volunteer once a week or something at a local soup kitchen. Oh, also more gaming time sands will actually get time to watch my Buccaneers this year assuming there is …
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 03:41 PM
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I knew this was coming/alreayd a thing. In another thread I was trying to say trans people still deserve respect but I see it as a delusion the same way as if someone told me they were a dog. Was told I knee nothing and that people didn't actually think they were dogs (I had already seen videos of people dressed up wanting to be pet). The trend is to normalize everything because being something they're not can't just be a mental illness of some kind . If it's reak for you then it's real these da…
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 03:36 PM
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It's funny a lot of us who were shy growing up or didn't make it a focus or whatever feel that way early 20s.. but reality is guys have way better luck at this thing after 30 believe it or not. Maybe by then you will realize it's not worth it. I kinda wish I'd just stayed the shy, nervous, naiive guy and not bothered. After a marriage I wish I'd stayed a virgin and all that. Urges weren't too hard to control until I lose my virginity. But yeah especially with your earning potential someone will …
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 02:58 PM
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Are you not expecting to have sex? I'm yeah.. I'm rsally not if we havent been together for a while.. in my case marriage was where I drew the line.. but for most would expect respectable people to spend some time getting to know them and trust them first If I don't know your last name you aren't going bareback? Uh if you don't know their last name why are you eevb having sex would be my question... But guess this world has really sinks this far Pretty sure guy in store as baffled by how open sh…
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 07:31 PM
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Hell they have more than a point and always have. A true incel or person that got the short straw in genetic pool is screwed and they know it. Nature can be cruel that way. It's easy to look down in them if they carry the 'woe is me' attitude, but most of us haven't truly been in their shoes either.
/r/MensRights11/06/20 06:03 PM
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Yeah they'd have no problem if you said men were not as good a this or that, but the moment you say but men are better at these areas they get defensive
/r/MensRights11/06/20 04:53 PM
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Wow seems you had some real train wrecks... Amazing how poor their judgement xna be. I remember this girl that went to same church as me. Her single mother was hoping she wouldn't repeat her mistakes... Small town .at one point I liked her.. but could see her starting to hang with wrong crowd. I was a real straight shooter. Was already I guess sorta involved with a real loser instead. Well later after I moved away she moved to another small town, lived with a guy who had a grow up.. treated her …
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 04:47 PM
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You could argue the drugs and life style didn't help but reality is even those who take care of themselves (which is becoming rare) would only squeeze a fee more years out. Reality is most girls late teens/early 20s party/drink way too much and sleep around. I gotta say as a dad of young children in always blown away anytime I go to a kids event. You see parents of children under 10 and every single mom looks like they're at least 40... Even ones with a 5 year old and a newborn. Either nobody is…
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 04:13 PM
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Better to not marry period.. but even more so if you're wealthy since you have more to lose. Makes you wonder why he was messing with her in the first place.. but hormones can makes you do stupid things and overlook red flags. At least he was conscious enough to bail even at last minute
/r/MensRights11/06/20 03:52 PM
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Im inclined to agree without diving into every case. Reality is majority of them are for people carrying a gun, some other weapons . Which suggest they were likely threatening in some way. It's also likely why Men are much higher. Yes women get off a lot easier for most crimes. Men are also a lot more likely to be carrying a gun or other weapon. Some are looking at white/black. White men should be hgiher because of population . Black count is likely a bit higher than it should be, but I've heard…
/r/MensRights11/06/20 03:37 PM
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Agree. Society as a whole is something I'd rather just unplug from. It's entirely within my control how I respond to it. Cancer doesn't give me a while lot or control and lost more than a fee family members from it
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 03:15 PM
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That's really funny because that's like default mode for me when someone is unreasonable.... Just didn't work in marriage cause she always demanded things be fixed and would even try to block me if I wanted space to cool off in arguments . I can confirm it works with everyday acquaintances though
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 01:59 PM
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I think she dated a lot of Alpha and I was the guy she settled for (had just turned 30 when she let me outta friend zone). I didn't realize it for years but became pretty obvious she resented me for it after years of marriage. Funny enough even if I was considered beta i guess instill had desirable genetics. She apparently never considered this solid dude who was a church friend of ours because she thought her half Asian genes wouldn't make food looking kids with him (black). I honestly think on…
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 01:38 PM
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Agreed. Guys see through the bullshit a lot more imo. I think a lot of dudes have more reasonable expectations. Personally I kept mine pretty low I think looking back on my marriage. Was still disappointed. Nothing was ever good enough for her and I asked for so little in return. By the end in counselling they'd ask what I needed in the marriage . I told them I just wanted to be accepted basically.. that's it
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 01:11 PM
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Sorry might have been swinging the pendulum a little too far in other direction. The point is to just be healthy. And in all honesty you can be the 'ideal weight' and still be unhealthy if you are too sedentary. It's good that you exercise and stay active. Reality is as long as you keep active then having that extra 20 lbs or being a bit on the lighter side you will be fine. Some people just think everyone should strive to have single digit body fat. I've never understood how it was hard to gain…
/r/MensRights11/06/20 12:59 PM
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I always thought most of the really lean super toned dudes with extremely low bf had more of a teenage boy look to them. To me a full grown man who lifts and eats well has a bit of fat around the stomache. Do they bit realize that is also where almost all a man's fat collects? We don't tend to carry it around the ass, thighs, arms like they do. Like most guys past 30 I could prob lose about 20lbs. At one point in my early 20s I was 30-35 lbs lighter, but was probably lightest I had been since gr…
/r/MensRights11/06/20 04:54 AM
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Totally forgot about that sub. Kinda tempted to join in on this trolling. Was that it's cucked.. remember a few funny threads on there before In a general sense .. most of Reddit isn't hard to troll . I know local city and province Reddit's all you have to generally do is speak unadulterated truth and wait for the downvotes. If it doesn't fit the leftist agenda it's guaranteed. Simone in our gov was based enough to say covid a perfect time to push through pipelines without those protestors . I s…
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 05:26 PM
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I'll admit even as a guy i always liked when attractive girls flirted and not so much when they were ugly..however I'd never consider it harassment unless they were grabby or stalking or something lol
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 04:57 AM
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I think shes right about the 'or' part. Some of us did ok with women, some don't.. doesn't matter. She's right . We weren't happy with following status quo (our life)... So we did something to try and make it better unlike most people who just do what they're told and wonder why they're unhappy. Many of us must have had some luck with women as we didn't wake up until well into our marriage or after divorce. Are their some that said I'll never have luck with women and I'll just give up? Sure.. bu…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 07:40 PM
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Eh for some people it's more convenient to assume there is no higher power and if there is they may have to live according to the fact there is someone hgiher than themselves . If such a person existed they may have to serve such a being. A world in which they don't exist means you can indulge self centered desires. It may seem like a herd mentality, but I'd argue atheism and indulging onself seems to be more the herd these days. Choosing to serve something greater is not the easy part by any me…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 05:37 PM
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Yeah 'you' was a hypothetical 3rd party sense .
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 04:50 PM
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Meh I've already been married and has kids. Monk mode for me. All about being a great dad and a good friend, neighbour citizen otherwise. May volunteer to help out my fellow man a bit when I don't have the kids
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 04:47 PM
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Kilts are ok.. I'd prob be a bit self conscious.. this looks like less of a kilt and more like a short skirt type of thing. Lol at that joke
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 04:45 PM
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Agreed. 99% of it you can't do squat and just unnecessary worry. Know basic facts like prevention for covid, these protests' just refocus on treating others with resoect and kindness.. otherwise I don't care about any if the rest of it and these issues will never fully go away. Plenty of people who just suck and it will always be that way
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 04:11 PM
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I can understand a doll being a sex toy. I can even understand attributing feelings and experiences towards them.. you may be living in delusion . You are living out a fantasy of a beautiful women who meets every need.. you may be mentally unwell and actually believe the delusion or you may be well aware of the delusion and say whi cares? If I lie to myself and let myself believe a lie but it's comforting what's the harm? It's like the girlfriend experience with a hooker. I'd question why bother…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 04:01 PM
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Honestly I would have deleted Facebook years ago if it weren't for photos of my kids shared on there. Otherwise I mostly try to ignore it. Did reconnect with my sister and a childhood friend on their recently. Have to admit though sometimes it's like that train wreck you can't look away from. Agree though even a passing glance can drag you down and it causes more anxiety even too muxh time on the right subreddits like this one
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 03:45 PM
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Think it's more about pointing out double standards. This average/slightly cute girl likely wouldn't even consider dating someone below her level. We already know guys will give a girl a chance as long as she's not bitchy and may/may not if she's too fat. I'd be the first to say that if that girl treats him like a king, knows a fee things around the house, and is loyal then he found himself a unicorn as far as I'm concerned. Her looks are good enough as long as she takes care of herself and does…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 03:02 PM
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Just lookee at that sub. It's a feminist sub under the guise of being against sexism. They only have the female symbol at top. There is also a post about hatred against men and 'concedes' even men can be victims of the patriarchy. Downplays it saying not nearly as much sexism as women and when you use the word patriarchy you are clearly looking at a feminist sub. They will 'allow' threads of sexism against men just to hold themselves accountable as well it says
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 02:55 PM
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It's 16 here in Canada but allowable for couples within a couple years I think. I dunno I just think it's a sign of degeneracy that people under 16 even engage in sex because they're essentially kids playing around with grown up activity and aren't ready for consequences like pregnancy. Years ago would have actually been more acceptable imo because life spans were shorter, people grew up, matured, and married a lot younger..they were actually adults by 16 basically
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 02:48 PM
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Women never seem to understand the concept of savings. It's meant to be saved...not given to some charitable causes on a whim. It may be needed on a rainy day. The stbx keeps trying to tell me her idea if fair and saying I won't be broke.. j have all this retirement money... And I can buy a house with it if she keeps our shared in etc... Like no.. it's retirement for s reason . You don't touch it unless you absolutely have to. Gonna need more than just that to get by
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 02:43 PM
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Not sure why the downvotes. Everyone caught up in this stupid idea of playing house together. That somehow it's going to help remarriage down the road.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 02:40 PM
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Even if you read ancient religions there were warnings about female nature. The virtuous woman was basically described as the unicorn actually. The men knee what to look for and had kept them in check. Today we see it as very oppressive or whatever. Today they've 'unleashed the beast'.. their nature has gone unchecked and in fact they are even being catered to and encouraged (empowered!) . Yeah guys have their rough spots too and degeneracy being encouraged all around
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 02:32 PM
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Eh I'm basically tradcon and I whole heartedly agree. You're right that MODERN religion is cucked but founders of Christianity actually considered marriage as a distraction from fully serving their God. They knew nature of women and even made the comparison of trying to serve two masters
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 01:57 PM
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Sadly compared to most wives this actually comes across as a breath of fresh air. Like yeah you can see the conditions and you can see hints its probably different behind the scenes, but if that was truly her attitude many of us would have readily accepted that as a compromise in our marriages. Reality is many of us worked out ass off all day and still got drama if we would try to out our feet up for a bit. Nope . After work expectation was either spend time with kids until bed or work some more…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 01:46 PM
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Spot on. Communism at its finest. Well at least if you read carefully he did have a few friends that weren't really sold on it. Actually oddly enough I'd you go back to archaic practices if he was Jewish and that was his blood brother he'd be taking it on himself. It's a bit shocking in 2020 lol
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 01:36 PM
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Sometimes wonder how early my stbx is gonna make an exit. She started blaming me a few years ago when she had high blood pressure and then a couple years ago when she had high cholesterol and all that... Then one of breaking points was when she came into counselling after being told her heart was like 30 years older and wanted out because I was always gonna be the death of her. Well haven't moved out yet and other day I noticed she down a 4 pack of snickers in 24 hours... Docs been telling her f…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 01:22 PM
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This shoudnt be a surprise to anyone really..but it's good to have numbers to back it up... Despite outright denial by hoes devaluing something as intimate and even spiritual as sex has some pretty bad consequences. It should actually be something special you share with your spouse and not something where you are comparing to last conquests... We have these stupid ideas about how you're an idiot for not playing Housr and taking them for a spin before marriage to at least make sure they're sexual…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 01:15 PM
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Yup was about to start blocking people on Facebook. Too many damn copied/pasted virtue signalling posts. Too damn flowery and over the top to be considered sincere.... Also rediculous self depreciating posts starting with my overwhelming privledge... Mixed in with conspiracy theories... Which may or may not be true.. but reality is we will never know entire truth and it doesn't matter unless we somehow think we can topple the whole thing... Get sick of it and say you know what none of these thin…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 01:06 PM
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Yeah used to read nice guys for fuel. I men's sure you get idiots that try to act nice then suddenly call them an ugly slut when rejected and act sour grapes, but there are also legit sincere sounding guys on there that they laugh it. Like legit guys who actually seem nice....
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 01:00 PM
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Rings too damn true. I make pretty close to that and I'll be paying $1170 in child support, 1k ish for rent and utilities. And then any extra activities, daycare for youngest, before and after care for oldest in theory I'll be paying 70% of it or so based income if she's only gonna make 30k (she's actually talking about not working or working part time which may actually be cheaper for me if no daycare, before/after... But I want kids half the time :( ) . So I can't much being left for food, gas…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 12:58 PM
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Lol. Yeah people are so blind they think it'd so wonderful and free. I'll say it looks great only because American system is basically the worst in the western world.. but that's a pretty low bar. Many euro countries, singapore etc. Are better than Canada and more efficient. Everyone here so dead set against it everytime a tiered system is mentioned but best systems in the world has an option for wealthy to rush elective surgeries and to treat others non life threatening conditions. Of course if…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 12:54 PM
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Think you underestimate the age of corruption. Many girls even when I grew up (mid 30s) were losing their virginity at 13, 14. I knew one at 12. I'm sure it's even worse now. You'd think children wouldn't be having sex, but you would be wrong. Basically as soon as puberty happens ..
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 12:44 PM
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Would be pretty hard to earn that trust back and I'd have to question if the marriage is that important to you. I do know what it's like to be tempted though. Whenever my ex was pregnant sbe started treating me like dog shit and first time there happened to be a cute coworker giving me a lot if admiration, respect, and was flirty. Found myself looking forward to seeing her a little too much and took the opportunity to join another project. Second time I was doubtful we even shoudk have a second,…
/r/Divorce_Men09/06/20 04:08 AM
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Yeah it really should have. Think I was already way too invested by that point since we were planning wedding and I was naiive enough to think that was 10 years before. Was the poor college student thing.... Had been abused by mother, dad wasn't around. A son story I'm a sucker for.. Had pastor's vouching for her etc. It's not like she cheated on me or anything . But became clear later in that her pair bonding was ruined and she saw sex as transactional whixh shouldn't have been a surprise Anyon…
/r/Divorce_Men09/06/20 12:26 AM
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Even most women should and do know this. She must just be in denial .
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 09:43 PM
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Yup. Sometimes just as simple as being able to vent and see that others have been through similar experiences. Sometimes I think I am replaying it all too often and need to move on from this sub, but then I see others who need perspective and people to listen and I see some really positive stufd as well with guys supporting one another, encouraging them in their jobs, hobbiess etc
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 09:26 PM
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With the exception of take it seems like an easy way out of taking responsibility for your actions and comes at the cost of a human life. Heck you could always out it up for adoption even if you decide you're not responsible enough to take care of it.it saddens me that the value of human life is being erroded as time goes on
/r/MensRights08/06/20 09:23 PM
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Damn just saw the update. I was going to say be very wary of highly educated women . They almost always end up divorcing ultra conservative Muslim or not. Better to know now though and at least you weren't dumb enough like most of us were to think someday she might change her mind. Better to cut your losses like you did. At least she didn't string you along. Well take care of yourself, build solid friendships and hobbies. Focus on you
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 09:03 PM
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So simps actually get to 'know' the onlyfans girl? I seriously doubt that. Might know the name she goes by.. not even her real name.. and her favourite colour and that's about it. Doubt there is going to be any personal conversation lol
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 08:14 PM
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Extensive sexual history, including a bit if sex work. No such thing as past being irrelevant. Also Wrong side of 30 with no kids and looking to marry fast. Described most of her old relationships as toxic. When asked what drew her to me one of first answer was work ethic ..
/r/Divorce_Men08/06/20 07:23 PM
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I'm assuming the dude is making a good troll job here buthe def got a few of ya
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 03:49 PM
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Can I just say that she looks pretty basic in that picture? Must be the wall/less make up
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 02:49 PM
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Never understood how that was supposed to bring unity. Seems like a tactic to bring division to me. White privledge is racist
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 01:48 AM
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Just keep busy really. It's only hard for like a few weeks then you kinda forget about sex. . I mean yeah you' might occasionally see something that gets your mind there again and have to be strong .
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 01:11 AM
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Dude is legendary. Man.. so few of us.. myself included would even think to divorce her when she stood working .. knowing what I know now . That's really the only way to not be screwed when they inevitably divorce you. Law pretty gives you that as your only way to protect yourself when they decide to nest down . I would have called a guy an agile for that previously
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 01:09 AM
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She's gonna be waiting an awfully long time. So where are the women who I'm suposod to wait for to worship me? Its actually funny because the biblical example of what a wife should look like is Sarai calling Abraham lord. Not to mention she didn't question him when he told Pharaoh she was his sister and awkwardness ensued. But nope... Women even in the church or maybe especially want to question their man every step of the way and yes.. basically expect worship
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 01:06 AM
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That's what it was all about in my marriage. Claimed she wanted me to have friends but whenever j wanted to go out it was poor her stuck with kids... And eventually she started telling me that I should be friends with this guy at church and he can show me to be good a good husband etc ..one dude was too damn easy going like me .. even more whipped than I was .. later found out he felt like killing himself at times and his wife almost left him. Other dude out his foot down a bit more but his wife…
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 12:35 AM
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You'd be surprised... Sometimes not even toys... I found myself frustrated thee last couple years and now we are divorcing. True.. I used to make 120, 130k a year and now I make 80... But the expenses these last couple years creeped up so much it's rediculous. Kept being told we could afford it because of her rich families contributions and no mortgage. I said no to quite a few things and yes to juts a few. Blew tons of money on renos but really it's spending a few hundred bucks a months on life…
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 12:15 AM
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Actually young man I've come to the realization you're too good for my daughter .. hell we are both too good for these bitches. Let's go our own way
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:53 PM
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Oh man. almost forgot how much of my childhood was spent having big battles in the weekends with a few buddies . Was awesome cause in my small town there was 3 of us close friends.. a girls older brother showed us and his friend collected . So we had 5 people lol.. would take hours lol.. but we were also noobs that just sorta tried to balance teams and not get into counting points
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 02:39 PM
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I'm almost 34. There's a girl I really liked in gr 9 and awkwardly asked out... Ended up being embarrassed after being shot down. Had a weird quasi friendship after where sometimes shed toy with me other times she was nice. Always had a soft spot and was I'm track with her. Even seeing her visit roommates gf freshman year. Also actually had a dream about her a fee weeks ago and brought back memories...o know i dodged a bullet but still feel tender... Another girl i fell for in gr 10... Asked her…
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 02:28 PM
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Mediation only works if you two are close to an agreement already I think. also if your case is pretty simple without too many assets, family gifts/loans, kids, etc. I tried it by mediator didn't really seem to listen to my concerns or read my emails properly even. So was a bad mediator. When questioned it was like ..I'm confident let me know if you want to terminate the process.that and she was just caving to loudest voice in the room. Even backed off of things she told me would be reasonable t…
/r/Divorce_Men07/06/20 03:23 AM
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I did and got a lawyer.waant even a stalemate. Mediator didn't even bother reading my emails properly or like me questioning her
/r/Divorce_Men07/06/20 03:19 AM
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Glad she used all caps and several !!!!! So we know not to take anything she says seriously
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 02:58 AM
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Do guys like this actually think that by telling women men (which would include him) have no clue that they will sleep with him? Or does he hits like wallowing in his own sense if dread or what?
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 07:06 PM
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Yeah when I was married she would always complain we need to have a 'talk' which usually meant grovelling about things I did even 10 years ago that I've already apologized for many times. If things were quiet for a couple weeks watch out. It's like they feed off drama and will try to stir something up because being at peace is boring. Whether it a positive or negative emotion they need that rush. Dude don't ever kill yourself over the state of women. There is so much more to live for than them. …
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:35 PM
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The term happily married is a relative one. It means they're one of the few that aren't at odds with each other and might actually enjoy each other's company.not much more than that. The old sweet couple is like a mythical creatures. You hear about them, you might see one in your lifetime. They're generally not as blissful as you'd think.. just content. But as someone who was married for 10 years and got to know other married couples I can tell you even the ones you think are solid . Like couple…
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 03:37 AM
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They do.when I was 24 I married a 31 year old. She looked younger cause she was Asian/Spanish. Also had a long distance relationship with a girl also around 7 years older before that. Had an older girl at church that liked me before that.. had tried to get together with me. I always did look older i guess. Even in high school had older girls saying I was cute and teasing me. Think it just depends on certain characteristics. Never had much luck with girls my own age but always seemed to attract o…
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 03:30 AM
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Sweet watch dude. I'd rock that
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 02:18 AM
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I actually think they're kinda cute
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 02:17 AM
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Can't believe this crap going on right near home. We are supposed to be a more conservative province too lol
/r/MensRights05/06/20 11:17 PM
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I've warmed up to it myself. I realize I will no longer consider any kind of romantic relationship with a 3d woman. I was watching sword art the other day and let my heart strings he pulled a bit by Asuna. I thought yeah she's not real. It may seem silly but who cares.. still touches my heart in a tender way and in a sense is almost processing/grieving/mourning and letting go of the image of a truly feminine woman. it's realizing a real woman will never live up to that and it's not about looks, …
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 10:52 PM
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That and if you look at David and Solomon what was their only downfall? Their pursuit of women was the only blemish on them... I mean David murdered and betrayed a loyal subject for one. Don't be like them in that manner. Solomon or course just got veered off course by foreign women and their idols. Have to think he had so many wives because he was looking for satisfaction in the wrong place
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 10:17 PM
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I've never good sex vs bad but I only had it with my ex wife. She was more than experienced.... I'll say I liked her on top a lot, like doggy but hurt her from being too deep apparently. But at end if the day regardless if position still felt pretty damn good going in and out of the hole. I can't imagine it not feeling good as the anatomy generally the same. The only time sex wasn't 'good' was when she stopped desiring me and there was no enthusiasm. Having said all that yeah it's overrated. Fee…
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 09:16 PM
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Only thing I would want is a couple good friends within decent driving distance and a good internet connection . Otherwise looks amazing
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 09:10 PM
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There are many of us in here that made the mistake of leaving the past in the past. Just take our word from experience that the last is extremely relevant. We were idiots that tried not being judgemental and thinking theyd changed and were different people
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 09:09 PM
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The potential earnings is often bullshit. Reality is many are all to happy to sit on their ass and have someone pay for everything. That's exactly what happened in my marriage. About a year in she lost her job, claimed her back still wasn't right after hurting herself (even though she worked part time to that point) and never went back. Anytime I brought it up it became a fight. She had a rich family that helped supplement us and now she's wanting everything and alimony and everything. St very l…
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 08:58 PM
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You and the op are at least in the right place. Believe me.. I got married to the bad girl that that found Jesus again... Prob should have taken hint when she still insisted she had accepted Jesus and was still a Christian even when she went all bad girl. Seems she want humble enough to admit sh wasn't saved back then. But yeah... Had pastor's and everything telling me she was a great catch... We are too quick to overlook people's past. But yeah I married someone who at least seemed spiritual...…
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 08:47 PM
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As someone who had a ball and chain for nearly 10 years and is wanting to wrap up this divorce .. in very much looking forward to being a manchild.. I'll have to be on my toes when I have the kids . But otherwise I'll do whatever the heck I want
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 04:20 PM
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For the most part you are right.id you're eating healthy and getting outside, hiking etc. You're probably healthy. I'd just say make sure you are getting some high intensity exercise of some type in. Simply being at a normal weight and eating well doesn't mean you're healthy. High intensity is important for heart and lungs. Also some moderate weight training is beneficial for your bones. As you get older you are less likely to lose bone density and we'll strength in general. Don't need to be hug…
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 04:19 PM
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Yeah I remember when everyone was putting Mahommes with the black QBs.. and I'm like isn't he mixed?
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 02:00 PM
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Daughter looks a lot like other mixed kids I've seen. The hair always takes the black side :) and yeah wasn't sure about whether mulatto was exactly PC.. sorta avoided using it and found out yesterday it is considered offensive
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 01:59 PM
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Curious why shed identify her daughter as black if she's the bio mom. Wouldn't it be equally white? Like my kids are Eurasian even though they're half white, 1/4 spanish, 1/4 chinese. Just thought it was odd I guess. I guess my 1/2 black duaghter needs her black dad wouldn't fit?
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 08:18 PM
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Would the male equivalent be I can cook, clean, do my own laundry. What would I need a woman for? Those are things anyone can do.. making decent money a lot more work. They're lucky most guys are more romantic and don't think that way....
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 03:25 PM
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Honestly sitting by yourself on a park bench on a nice day is actually fantastic. Can be great to just enjoy the nice weather, people watch, contemplate life.... Now a days I think people are just too stimulated and not able to sit still for long
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 03:06 PM
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It's true... Women are completely ruthless but we can take it... Speak just a little of the anger on your kind? Complete meltdown
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 02:58 PM
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Agreed. Looting and destroying property is stupid. They're taking out their anger on the wrong people. That's the problem I've always had with it and sadly they're the victims not many people talk about.
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 05:39 PM
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Wow... That's tragic .. pretty sure news won't be covering that one...
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 05:38 PM
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I believe guys form of 'strategy' is either dude you have to just move quickly and act like you don't give a crap so you can get that P then bail.. or other side of it... You have to constantly reassure her, be romantic, give her back rubs or foot rubs, keep quiet and shut up when she's angry, etc... Oh and give her your balls while you're at it Best strategy is don't even bother, nothing can ever please them and the cost is too high
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 09:43 PM
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Agreed and that's the problem. I saw a post from someone saying it's white priveledge to say it's sad the guy dies but should stop destroying property and should be saying it's sad people are destroying property but police need to stop killing black men or something... Feel like that type of post is missing the point. They might have a point if such things were actually helping the cause.... Also saw a post from a. Hockey player saying well they're in pain so why should I question it... I mean I…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 09:22 PM
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Have that few people really played it? Was one of my favourites growing up... Played through it too many times to count.
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 08:29 PM
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Tell her to go be a lesbian then if she hated men so much
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 08:27 PM
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Yeah I was always to blame for all the problems in my marriage. I mean I guess I was inexperienced in relationships.. only had a long distance one and a very short local one before her ... On the other hand I think my inexperience is better than her long history of supposedly toxic relationships.
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 08:21 PM
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It he wasn't such a pussy then he should have told her to go be a lesbian then if she hates men so much. Of course if he wasn't a pussy he wouldn't be dating a feminist
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 08:19 PM
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I actually did see something... Was interviewed and asked and gave some token answer about how then he grew up... Basically just sold out... It actually reminds me . Heard the smash mouth sing the other day I'm a believee. I thought man that's the ultimate Simo song.. like degeneration from mgtow to simp. A dude in another thread got remarried and said I can't believe you'd donut again but guess it's like the song I'm a believer...
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 08:00 PM
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I agree but at same time j think the legit protestors generally do leave when it gets dark don't they? I'd assume those out at night are just opportunists and people that enjoy violence
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 07:57 PM
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I'd add to say if he's not wealthy they might consider him if they think he'd make a good obedient slave, bonus points if he's a handy man. I think my ex did have big dreams I'd me being wealthy somehow, but my 'work ethic' was cited as being something that perked her interest. I figured out later (shouldn't have been hard) that she wanted someone around the house where she could sir in her ass and do nothing when I was off work. During work.. well I wasn't wealthy but still paid all her bills a…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 07:45 PM
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My ex actually could do some things around the house but was a damn martyr about it. Always claimed she worked so hard even though I always looked after kids when I wasnt working. Said cooking 3 times a day was so hard and stressful... She was actually comparing herself to me after I'd worked on an off day and a Saturday ling days and I said well you're one expensive chef then... Said maybe you shouldn't have married me! Lol of course I shouldn't have . Says this as we are in divorce process. Al…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 07:37 PM
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Nice post. Saved. Always was pretty minimal.. sister had to convince me to buy a table to eat at when I first moved out in my own.. I just figured couch and computer desk was fine . She wanted to have guests so ok...also had to insist to have a couple pictures in the walls lol.. Now I'm divorcing a woman who loced covering every square inch of wall with crap and filling rooms with furniture... It was insane . Was hard to find a place to do handstand push-ups... Goodness bring more minimalistic i…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 07:25 PM
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I'm wondering how you can still be so caught up on someone that told you to kill yourself. Even the bag in divorcing now never said anything to that extent. I'd echo what others said... You have to think about all the headaches she gave you and realize that other guy you're currently jealous of us gonna have to deal with all that. If grieved my marriage gradually and held out til the bitter end so yeah at this point I'm like I pity the next poor sap. I'm sure she's pretty and made you feel speci…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 06:56 PM
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Yeah... I've heard about this and it worries me.. doing the same in military and I'm almost sure law enforcement too
/r/MensRights02/06/20 04:35 PM
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Yeah must be nice. For a bit I was working downtown and was an expresd bus in community that went straight there.. much prefer just relaxing and reading it something than dealing with traffic. Getting pretty much anywhere for groceries, shopping, heading to mountains on weekend require a car though. Also most of my career haven't been right downtown
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 07:54 PM
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Depends where. In Canada if you cohabitate for a year you're basically married and subject to splitting assets and stuff
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/20 04:19 PM
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I mean if she really wants nothing to do with the child can she not at least look at adoption instead of killing an unborn child because of her poor choices?
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 04:14 PM
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Yeah cars are a financial black hole. They all get you from point a to point b the same for everyday purposes. Ive always just bought something basic, reliable, 3 or 4 years old but still basically brand new low km. I'd only ever consider otherwise if I really didn't have anything else to spend on and had more than enough investments, some passive cash flow, efc. Spend so little time in my car anyways
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 04:09 PM
2

Just rewatched this trilogy with my kids who have never seen it before. Forgot how good it was. My daughter was bored for first half of #1 becausd if all the introduction but ended up liking trilogy
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 03:45 PM
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I take it not worth watching? Lol Used to read Archie so by curiosity had out on list a long time ago... Assuming it's drama bullshit though with some leftist agenda sprinkled in
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 03:44 PM
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Meh see this is why the game is stupid. If I was going to be serious about relationships and try for best success I wouldn't have it any other way than to take my time getting to know them before taking them on dates. I'd never take someone out and look to be romantic unless I felt friendship type qualities first. Taking out a stranger is just awkward. But better to not play it at all I mean modern world says take out a complete stranger, awkwardly get through a dinner with a bit of conversation…
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 03:16 PM
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Was definitely a lot different in my little town. I'd try to take the time to get to a know a girl and they'd be onto the nezt guy way too fast. Girls in my town, well guys too, never really took time to get to know each other. They'd just start dating people they didn't even really know. A guy like me was always left in the dust. I literally remember showing interest in a girl and friends arranged to go for a walk and because I was fairly quiet (literally first time I'd ever talked to her) she …
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 03:13 PM
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Yeah I was the moron simp who was helping a female 'friend' I liked fixing up the condo she moved into. Friend zoned... Along with the other few simps helping her.. well maybe one wasn't interested a just a solid Christian bro... She actually picked me because her uncle figure said I was the hardest working .. she wanted someone with good work ethic. Well that and she suddenly wanted me after I dated someone else and broke up. Should not have been such a surprise that she expected a slave after …
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 02:41 PM
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You might think so but I seriously doubt this. In engineering half the new hires are women even though they probably only make up 10% of grads in electrical and they aren't particularly distinguished in most cases. If anything I agree it hurts them only because they are more likely to be complacent and be in for a shock when reality hits and the client isn't looking at names or faces for deliverables.
/r/MensRights01/06/20 02:37 PM
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Eh much like here there are a lot of women there that got hurt badly. I tend to think they're just a lot more irrational about it and don't realize the privledge women have over men in general
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 01:12 PM
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Reality is by 16 many/most girls are physically mature. The problem is more that they aren't mentally. They're still basically kids at 16 mentally in a woman's body. Or at least many are. That's the part that's creepy more than anything not that hey aren't physically developed. As for the picture looks around 20 to me.. if anything the other picture they talk about she looks borderline jailbait
/r/MensRights30/05/20 11:21 PM
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Sadly even Christians will cherry pick parts of the bible about bit judging like it's a get out of jail card and ignore all the other verses that say within the church please do and hold each other accountable, just don't judge those outside church who don't share same Morales and values.. or don't judge another believers relationship with God as a whole What do we say when people do something discpicable? You have no shame! Because inherently we all know shame can help keep people from veering …
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 09:28 PM
3

Was arguing just the other day about being trapped by hormones and being careful. Night have been a troll but he claimed being horny was a thought (somehow not a feeling?) And to just do it . Only a Simp or in danger if you think about it first.. sounded a bit backwards to me lol. All above t being very Aware of what you're doing and self control.. not letting the little guy think for you
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 09:25 PM
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Yeah I mean I just try to treat other people how I'd wanna be treated... Sometimes better.. but is it really that unreasonable to at least be a bit disappointed when they take advantage of that and there is either not even a little reciprocation or they want to take even more? It's not that I'll let bad people stop ne from trying to believe the best in people and do what I think is right but.. can we at least say it sucks sometimes?
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 09:23 PM
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This is the biggest difference since the divorce... Growing up and in my young adulthood I'd literally spend time in occassion just sitting or lying down in silence contemplating things that have been happening or could be happening, about relationships and where I shouek invest my time and resources, how I should have reacted and how I could improve etc. I was reserved but when I spoke people listened .. Once I got married everything was an emergency with her, aleays had me in my toes or walkin…
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 09:13 PM
2

Dammit.. wish I still had the app right now. Can't see shit on mobile browser version
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 07:47 PM
2

Yeah it became very clear that we just view the world and certain issues very differently. That and as I mentioned she couldn't seem to forgive and move on from things. Didn't see how it could work when I kept having to answer for things 10 years ago. Forgiveness is a show stopper and quite frankly boggled my mind because our faith was supposed to be something we shared and forgiveness is a fundamental cornerstone of it
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 05:09 PM
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Yeah I felt the same way... For what it's worth even though I was always against counselling and thought it a waste of time I did get to the point where I said we should go and either finally fix it or go out own ways as Mr just trying harder not to piss her off wasn't working. Eventually she was the one who decided she couldn't after counselling.. even let church people convince us to try their counsellor and same thing. Def gavr me Pearce of mind I did what I could. Did the homework she didn't…
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 04:59 PM
1

Oh did you edit your op or did I gloss over your kid? Like everyone else I tried to make is work right til better end for that very reason. When kids are involved I'd recommend the same to ajyone, but obviously at a certain point it becomes detrimental to them too. Only you really know. Or are you already divorced? I can say having gave it as much as I could I don't feel I completely failed them but I do worry about them. One if my biggest priorities is being best dad I can be and in some ways w…
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 04:19 PM
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Honestly it you forget about assigning blame to one genders nature or another it's really simple. More and more marriages are resulting in divorce.. period. If they kept the numbers up to date it's likely more than half now . Out of those that stay together some only do out of security, fear of unknown, divorce rape, children, etc. When I was married I probably appeared happy on social media and at church.. I wasn't.. when I got to know other married couples they all had their problems too... Of…
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 03:26 PM
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I actually agree with this one. Shouldn't always assume the one cheated on is innocent in the whole marriage. I could never bring myself to it but damned if I wasnt tempted at times when I felt at my lowest, when I was treated like a dog to be kicked, and an attractive coworker treated with me with such respect and admiration. She was constantly threatening to leave, I didn't really believe in divorce and had a kid... yeah sometimes it feels like having someone around that makes you feel special…
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 02:57 PM
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I'm 99% sure here you'd get in serious trouble for that. Income right off the bat you'd have it imputed for sure. Nice thought though :)
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 02:51 PM
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Just sAw this shit on my great aunts FB. Lady is super old.. Basically says treasure her, spoil her, treat her like a princess, orotect Her, honour her or someone else will.. Had to refrain from commenting be my guest. What do I get? Constantly having to watch my 6 for all the orbiters? Would certainly have had some questions from some family members lol
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 02:48 PM
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Her whole family are a mess by sounds of it. At what point do you out aside your bound loyalty to family to say hey the test proves he has nothing to do with this.. you can't randomly pick a man in her life to take the responsibility for her screw up and have it ruin his whole life? What a pos thing to do on their part. I agree with restraining order and possibly even defamation if it effects job prospects/ruins your rep...
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 02:42 PM
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Well we started with mediation and fired her before getting a lawyer. This one tried to help me as much as possible without billing me. Was free to call her during mediation process and said if you need legal action then we will open a file but use process as much as you can.
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 02:38 PM
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Loved the last major job I had, good money, good people, had fun, lots of team building, industry was strong... Then got laid off and had a survivial job for a year... Then started at current one... Started off good first year but kinda sucks since.. industry has gone to crap last few years (oil and gas in Canada)... People so uptight now.. pay much lower and no OT.. people now forced to take PTO.. I'll be asked in July and don't see anything lined up after.. but no one hiring right now here. Of…
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 08:36 PM
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Alreasy told my folks in flying solo here on out after this divorce finalized. Haven't said anything like that to sisters. I got a fee laughs though... On seperate occasions my dad ad sis have both said .. yeah she's not gonna have an easy time finding someone. Woman over 40 with two kids ...not gonna be as easy as it used to be for her lol
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 08:27 PM
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Yeah I'm of same mindset. Came to realization too late so I'll be getting divorce raped and struggling for next few years. Hopefully by then she will be better employed or found another person to leech or something so my payments are less lol. Otherwise though? No looking forward to having freedom, time, some adjustment to working around custody of kids and stuff. I'll sympathize with men, but otherwise mind my own damn business and just make of life what I can. Don't expect people to suddenly s…
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 01:33 PM
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I assumed if you stick your ass out it's hard not to look a bit round in the belly... But you're right they usually are masters at hiding things and it's hard to believe she wouldn't take multiple shots to get best looking one. Chances are she does look way worse in real life
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 12:30 AM
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I'm assuming you didn't have kids. I'm sure life is better.. besides money I know it'll be better. My family already seeing me back to my old self and I haven't even moved out yet Financial wise though.. make about 4400 after tax .. 1170 to child support, 1k rent/utilities. Between daycare and any other section 7 expenses in sure another 1k for my portion ...figuring out spousal support.. Then add gas, food, car insurance, internet, etc. Might save a couple hundred at end of month if lucky. Also…
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 12:00 AM
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You guys seem like you have pretty crazy standards when it comes to looks. She's not tiny but I wouldn't call her fat. Looks like she could lose a few sure, kinda looks like an unflattering angle or maybe used to arching her back at other angles. Bit of baby fat. Fairly attractive imo... but sure could go downhill fast. Maybe just cause I have jacked it in a while? Lol. You guys seem to be having a field day with the fat jokes Anyways doesn't really matter. A tag line like that means stay the he…
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 11:29 PM
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I missed the boat too and I'm turning 34. Only knew about ngtow a couple years ago... That was when I already knew I was headed to divorce and had already decided it was all bullshit plus I had a personal religious conviction not to. Ngtow was just icing on the cake and realized I wasn't alone in my thinking. Was too late to avoid divorce rape though. Like everyone said all my dealings with women have been basically just trouble .. never had any lasting happiness.. my marriage was too rushed and…
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 09:07 PM
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Yeah I'm in Canada and do have a lawyer I'm gonna have to rely on. If I'm not spending lots of time with my kids while I'm still in the house she's gonna use that against me too
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 08:13 PM
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I'd say you're playing with fire. You're basically saying you get hard so you have sex and don't even think about it? Wouldn't that make your dick your master basically? My whole point is when you let it do your thinking for you one day you may find you'll do anything to satisfy it... That's one if the paths where you may suddenly find yourself dumping over someone you have to sleep with because she makes you horny. I'd just caution some self control. You're not required to be full monk to be mg…
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 03:41 PM
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I'd argue being controlled by your primal urges are not as free as they think. Their very manner if thinking revolves around it.. hence we get the simp. Maybe what I like is to be free of things that cloud my mind
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 03:28 PM
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Yeah not sure what point of this post is. I personally think if we want to call ourselves above the animals and consider ourselves an advanced society we should be able to control our urges... There are real consequences like lack of ability to pair bond, unwanted pregnancies, stds. I'm a little different than maybe the average poster because I don't believe sex is just a physical act and there is not just an emotional vulnerable part but a spiritual side too.. I just think we've gone backwards …
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 03:18 PM
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Well still not done divorce process but I took it off at beginning of year and it felt like I was taking off prison shackles. No joke. Every time I take note of it being gone I feel free. Just goes to show how long I tried to make it work even when it was costing me my sanity lol Also saw comment about sleep. I slept like a damn baby once I was in the other room
/r/Divorce_Men27/05/20 01:42 PM
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I think the porn industry being so big is a problem.. I've certainly browsed at times but I try to have restraint.. however... She's acting like being a pornstar is a noble profession and that there aren't consequences to that profession... Reality is people do shams them out in the wild, they developed drug problems, they are barred from other professional careers etc Onkyfans is no different and since when shouldn't sluts be shamed? That's why society sucks right now. When people say you have …
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 01:14 PM
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Yeah I'm pretty easy going to.. but I do know sometimes getting hit in the head can be like a damn light switch sometimes. Doesn't even have to be that hard
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 01:09 PM
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Yeah as I'm going through this divorce and looking at how on the hook I am while being the only one paying rent (house is paid off) and seeing how daunting monthly expenses are while worrying about my job .. I can see why it drives guys to end it. I've just never been the type to go that road
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 01:06 PM
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Honestly not even finished divorce yet and my family can already see the old self coming back. This was how I always lived my life but then ingot married to a Karen lol.... Now I'm just like hey man I kinda hope she does get her claws on that old friend if ours. She's been eyeing him up because if his success but if anything I'll be off the hook for all these support payments.. might even owe me child support. On the other hand I pity the poor guy I'd he falls for it. Only real worry I have is m…
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 01:03 PM
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If imagine as a first responder when somebody claims their life is being threatened and the first thing they say is to label their race you know it's probably bullshit. Like your life is in danger but you want to make sure I know he's African American? Ok if you'd have said you were being attacked by an anglo Saxon we would have taken our time getting down there
/r/MensRights26/05/20 09:22 PM
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I pretty much cringe every time I see 'confudent in her sexuality' in places like that's a good thing. In todays day and age very hard to find one that isn't. I'd rather have one that is a bit naiive about sex in general Also in today's age it's a pretty low bar to find a woman that people will pay money to see naked. Does it have a vagina? Tits? Ok they'll pay. Not sure what is flattering there
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 08:27 PM
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The op and this have made it hard to breathe
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 05:12 PM
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I'd recommend some physical exercise. I know gyms are closed but at least to frona run from time to time. I need to keep it up myself... I get it man.. I was married.. due to family gifts we had a 550k house here fully paid... Now I'm moving out, just keeping my retirement savings and probably renting a two bedroom basement suite from someone... You do what you have to.. you might have to just find a nice quiet place to rent. I really don't feel I have an option as more than half my after tax in…
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 03:23 PM
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Yeah... Ex wife used to tell me how toxic her relationships were .. one was apparently abusive and yet she moved to this country with him. Wasn't long into marriage where she started slapping me if she got mad in a disagreement, sometimes when driving. Had to fight the urge to not get drawn in.. I see the way it is now. Amazing how stupid women can be.. I'm 6'2 almost and 240... Well was maybe 20 lbs less around then since I was pretty damn toned.. of course I would have been the one facing cons…
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 03:14 PM
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Yeah I think when push comes to shove, heat of the moment I would. In a fatherz certainky would for my kids, I'd be inclined to for other kids knowing that's someone else's daughter/son.. I dunno just kids have so much ahead of them and are still somewhat innocent even if they don't stay that way. My chances are better generally... Should we expect people to do otherwise? Not really. I'd sure be thankful if they saved my kid, but I can't ask them to risk their lives
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 03:06 PM
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Eh always preferred bit making everything my business. I later found even if you manage to snag one then you're constantly having to convince them just to stay and working just to keep respect. I was naiive to think once you were married you had a certain amount of security, that the games would mostly stop, that it would be a state of acceptance... Lol nope. That's when I just started to awaken to the reality I wasn't acceptable to her and now needed to change! Yeah screw that.. I'm fine the wa…
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 02:47 PM
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Jeepers man... Yeah... Us guys make mistake or trying to be the hero... I did same thing, but didn't have nearly same issue as yours. Reality is they will never appreciate any if the sacrifices you make. They might die about 5 minutes. Actually might be the opposite . If they know subconsciously they're a mess and you marry them anyways they probably figure you must be even lower value or have something wrong with you. I'm actually blown away after all that you'd try dating again. If there was a…
/r/Divorce_Men26/05/20 01:24 PM
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Yeah I have no idea. After one divorce I'm saying there is no way I could afford to do it again... I will be struggling just to put anything away at end of month. If she actually goes back to work then between rent, support, daycare I will be paying 3kish out of 4400 a month after tax...that doesn't include section 7 expenses which is any activities kids do. Oh and prob need before and after care for oldest..
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 12:51 PM
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Absolutely and that was another thing i wrote responding to someone else there. Even if this guy is keeping his space what if she has another 'delusion' for someone else who's totally into it? Is he going to be ok if she has an episode and cheats in him? Won't really matter if she can be blamed or not
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 12:45 PM
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I fall into the camp of been married, didn't work out, would recommend against it. Think laws, societal expectations, and growing entitlement among women to have it all, and men's disposability make it a losing game. Having said that I have female coworkers I enjoy talking with and family members. I just wouldn't get involved with any beyone friendship I should add that for both sexes actually odds of marriage working out aren't great and financially/emotionally can be very damaging. So I'm not …
/r/MensRights25/05/20 09:53 PM
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As a Christian my understanding of marriage is simply this ... God said it was not good for man to be alone so created Eve. God's original design for marriage was good as were all things at creation. However the first sin... Well man was to labour hard to grow crops, woman was to have painful childbirth, man would be enemies with the snake. Sin entered and many things were corrupted... Marriage isn't exclusive to this.. Fast forward. Both Paul and Jesus showed lives dedicated to furthering the k…
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 09:45 PM
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Reminds me if a Remembrance Day poster put up in all the halls in schools here in Canada. Put up some old lady who was a nurse with bright red lipstick but soldiers uniform with medals. Daughter thought it was some kind of solider who fought and died or something. I said no.. actually women didn't fight in the world wars. Asked why is she on the poster like a hero then? Said because that's how society is. They'd love kids to think she was and remember history different.. they'd also like to elev…
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 09:27 PM
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I don't think I know a single person that will defend men having illegitimate children and saying it was a good thing. Shouldn't we be aiming for higher not going backwards and having our turn?
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 08:44 PM
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So guys are supposed to man up and marry someone not ideal but women should never settle for anything but the best!
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 08:24 PM
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Yeah was downvoted and told she's mentally ill so not unfaithful. My whole point isn't to assign blame. It was more or less can she love you if she's fantasizing about someone else? It really doesn't matter if it's her fault and she is mentally ill or not . If they loves someone else you don't worry about who's fault it is
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 08:08 PM
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Yeah ingot downvoted to oblivion. I get I may have been a bit blunt..but that's because I got married to someone with a lot of childhood issues, toxic relationships, depressions, suicide attemts, etc. You don't want to seem like you're blaming them for their issues and committing to work with them seems 'noble'. Reality is nobody gives a shit later when it all falls apart. I soent years rationalizing her behaviour. Think she was actually bpd. I had the same idealistic view as he did and I wish I…
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 06:49 PM
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Could very well be . But the guy shouldn't be naiive about what he's signing up for. Not going to make it any less painful when she cheats on him down the road whether she has a prescription or not. He'd better be prepared to deal with it
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 06:03 PM
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Eh I posted something in too thread for what it's worth. Just shared how lonely I felt in my marriage and how I was flirting with depression.. felt like just waiting to die basically. How everyone around me notices how much more I'm like my old self and haven't even finished divorce process yet. People weren't kidding about removal of posts. Your second and third ines everything removed
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 04:53 PM
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Yeah... Some of this crap you even know mentally. Like if a buddy of mine had told me all the red flags and stuff I went through before marriage is have thought he was an idiot and shouldn't go through with it.. still did and no way in hell an I touching another female even with far less red flags
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 03:41 PM
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Nah I realize they are winning. I'd just rather be able to look at myself in a mirror is all. Kicking and screaming and being a crybaby isn't my style even if today's society encourages it. We see the same thing with protestors in Canada. They block every damn project here... System will accomodate every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Don't even have to get it cancelled.. just throw a fit so someone will at least hear you out and even if it gets dismissed eventually delays add up until company decides no…
/r/MensRights25/05/20 03:27 PM
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Tbh those reasons are some of the exact reasons rationale, reasonable people don't take feminists seriously. Same reasoning applies to protestors in general
/r/MensRights25/05/20 02:07 PM
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I'd say not necessarily. He might just be religious. I waited until I was married for that reason and my faith is another reason I won't remarry. Even before I found mgtow I believed remarriage was adultery and I'd find peace being single and blessing others with my extra time as well as being a damn good dad
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 01:48 PM
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Yeah literally said same thing in my head. That those who sell.... As someone who was married to a person that did that for a couple years in college I can say that she definitely learned not to value intimacy and it was transactional for her after she got some of the initial fun out of her system
/r/MGTOW25/05/20 01:44 PM
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Women are already net negative for taxes over their lifetime. Why make the gap even bigger? Lol
/r/MensRights25/05/20 01:41 PM
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This... The guys would just be there to pick up women over time or would fall into the trap he found a unicorn, and women would just go there for validation
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 07:56 PM
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Sex has always been a transaction to them. Maybe they enjoy with Chad but even that is partially for attention and biologically for good genes even if they try to suppress that desire. I realized that after I got cut off the moment that second + pregnancy test came up. Sure we had some just for fun at start of marriage but that died down. Mostly cause she was a former slut who hasn't had any in a long time. Tried playing the good girl
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 07:02 PM
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Funny enough I understand a lot of it in theory.. I find a lot of working with your hands seems to be less a science and more if an art sometimes. Like I'll do everything right on paper but something jams, strips, etc. Plumbing can be the worst.. reaching into tight spaces where you can't even get your hands in.. trying to do it with two fingers and the last guy out it in super tight or its corroded etc . Get it like after an hour or two with some lubricant etc . Yeah.. I'm an engineering tech s…
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 06:10 PM
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She even admitted she was afraid this would happen. She had 3 years to tell him and married him without disclosing. Shit at least my wife told me about her past.. prob after a was a little too invested and already planning wedding and I was stupid enough to go through with it but oh well All those people that say don't judge someone in their past... Well if you're just gonna be aqauntances sure... But if you're going to marry them it's a damn lie. Had pastors and stuff saying she was such a catc…
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 04:31 PM
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Lol first thing I said... Man she's got arms like that in hgih school already.. just gonna get worse. Your words were a lot more colourful and poetic though
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 04:10 PM
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Yeah sadly I had same thing where they wanted to pay a lot of our mortgage ad stuff.. wife used to crappy public system so they insisted on private school and paying for it. I wanted nothing to do with it but was shamed that I'm not used to the culture. Basically said I can't stop her I just don't want to hear about it. Well she always said now we can afford this or that . Surprise... Come divorce wants to pull out all the loan notes, effectively back charging me for things I said I wouldn't hav…
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 03:56 PM
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Can tell she wasn't even prepared for the possibility he might actually attack and not just let her have at it. Didn't even raise her weapon.. just awkwardly letting it hang behind her
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 02:34 PM
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Yup my wife wasn't wealthy but knew her family had money. Had no idea how rich her family was an almost instantly regretted it. I would have much rather married someone from humble roots. Of course better not to marry at all. Yeah the uncles were actually ok, even the filthy rich one.. but most of the women were insufferable and of course couldn't keep a man
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 02:23 PM
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With no kids I'd say what the heck you doing talking to her still? Ghost. She's just needing with your head at this point . You need to move on and not care what she thinks.. I wouldn't rule out her advice of not being with anyone else. Not a bad idea but I'd you absolutely must don't worry about hurting her feelings.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/20 02:06 PM
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Yeah good advice. You can learn a lot just from a few free consults. Opened my eyes and confirmed my mediator was full of shit. I ended up settling in a. Nice lady who actually tried to help me as much as she could without opening a file. Said if I just needed advice just call/email and would only bill me if I opened a file and needed legal action. Had encouraged me to try mediation as far as I could but it broke dine when mediator didn't like being questioned and basically dared me to fire her
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/20 02:01 PM
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Eh I thought id do the same. I. Theory you're correct. Nothing matters until it's signed.. but in my case it just got to point to mediator didn't even know what she was talking about, didn't read my emails in detail, dug her heels in, said I'm confident, and said let me know if you want to terminate. Had no choice and I'm going back to drawing board completely after wasting 4k for basically nothing plus a few months if wasted time. Or course the ex wanted it noted she didn't want termination and…
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/20 01:56 PM
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I tried the mediation route. Wasn't even supposed to be her person but it was bs and I had to fire the mediator. I can't even imagine doing it with their guy. For me just ended up being a waste 4k total and back to square 1
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/20 01:54 PM
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Yeah sadly will prob have to take out a loan/finance. I just gotta say as someone who's only divorcing now id never even consider moving anywhere else unless I absolutely had no choice. The economy suckss here, my industry is dying, but I consider myself basically stuck here because this is where we chose to raise kids. Anybody who wants to move and take the kids away from the other parent just to make a bit more money, especially with dual salaries already, can go to hell imo. I mean most if my…
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/20 01:50 PM
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I'm sure it'll hurt when I get there but chances are she'll get tired of him too and then he won't even see the kid since he's not the dad. God forbid he tries to discipline them. It will be you're not even my dad. Tbh I pity whoever falls for the exes charms lol... that no she's gonna have a harder time than she thinks and will resent whoever she settles for.. already settled for me before and that was 10 years ago and before 2 kids and letting herself go. Even early 30s when I married her she …
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/20 01:38 PM
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Yup can't wait to move out. There will be cake. Need to get the place setup asap for the kids though. Them and some buds are the only company I'll ever need. I'll enjoy them when I have them and when I don't I'll be off doing whatever the heck I want. Maybe randomly wake up and decide to climb a mountain.. plenty around here. Feel like staying in my robe and playing borderlands all day? No prob... Really hope NFL goes ahead.. been too long since I've just spent a Sunday watching or Monday nights…
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/20 01:32 PM
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They do change but for the worst. That old saying is true. After marriage women are upset because the man doesn't change. The man is upset because the woman changed. Did I overlook red flags that stayed? Yup... But a bunch of new ones showed up too. Suddenly after being laid off didn't wanr to work another day... An extremely dishonest side came out of her I'd never seen... Went from being someone who I thought was very compassionate to being petty and self serving.
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 01:23 PM
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Yeah this morning emailed mediator and flat out told her my trust broke down all over. Said she flat out either skimmed my emails only or ignored questions. Siad even if outcome is same at least I'll have peace of mind if someone is in my corner. Or course the stbx said she wanted it noted she didn't want to terminate, that she wanted it ended amicably, and that I felt entitled to more, went back on my word and not moving out right away etc. Like yeah real easy to say when you were heading off i…
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 11:00 PM
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Yeah I told the lawyer I was talking to I'm hiring her. Cut loose the mediator which sucks.. she already got paid and then didn't even bother reading my emails in detail. Just skimmed over them and missed my concerns altogether
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 02:26 PM
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Thing is we are already messing up the economy with all this focus on green energy. My job and the majority of Albertans is at risk because of it. Heck Canada as a whole is in trouble now
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 02:24 PM
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That's the main concern I keep hearing yeah. At some point the population bubble has to pop though
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 02:23 PM
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Pretty sure it's more than a shit test. Really doesn't matter to me because we are getting a divorce.. it's done . She wanted it, I was at point where I said well feel bad for kids but good riddance. Anyways I'm pretty damn sure she's eyeing him now that he's making good money and has ambitions. Not a shit test. We will see if she pushes and he falls for it. But would be funny because she literally didn't want to have kids with him. Oh and it was past any point of shit tests. She can be pretty b…
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 06:50 PM
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Hypergamy, alpha f/beta bucks and all that. Of course she acts mad when he confronts her... And yeah the 'i don't want to know' is typical beta behaviour, screw that... No shame either.. obviously I had a good time. My ex wife actually admitted she didn't go for our black friend because she thought black-asian kids weren't good looking. Now as we are splitting I can see her eyeing him and keeping in touch with him more. Got the kids from me and now .. well she sees how much money he's making the…
/r/MensRights20/05/20 06:35 PM
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Never saw declining birth rates as a bad thing really. Amazing how so many people claim climate change is such a catastrophe but that declining birth also is in next sentence. I'm not even a big climate change subscriber partially for this reason but there are too many damn people in a lot of places around the world. True not really here... But in general. Or course I get it will destroy their messed up system that relies on growth to never stop. That the next generation supposedly to always pro…
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 06:11 PM
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You need to really ask yourself ..if she suddenly came back and wanted to be together would you really be decide to trust her again? If your answer is yes then you need to ask why? It would purely be an emotional response but as you peel back the layers and realize how you got there you'd realize she's not who you thought she was. Bubble needs to be popped. Bubble meaning the fake image you have. You'd start to look back and see all the red flags and how badly you were used
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 05:54 PM
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Eh my stbx insisted right until the end I was too muscular.. although to be fair it was more don't work in bulking up more . Make yourself more like Bruce Lee build. Which is not my body type at all lol but I was closer to that when I first met her.. had been doing lots or circuit training style and cardio so was the most toned I'd ever been with a real genuine 6 pack, but not as strong as I am now. But yeah I deal with all the big ones.. slut (escort in college, herpes) gone good church girl, a…
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 03:09 PM
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Sounds way too familiar except we were already in divorce proceedings when this thing started and staying here ATM. But yeah deosite my worried and her saying nasty things when we discussed kid #2 she suddenly put on her best attitude until she got that + test. Once that happened I was dig meat. No sex, back to treating me like a hired hand/animal. Realized later things only seemed to be better when she wanted something. I also understand being dragged along to look like a nice happy family in p…
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 03:06 PM
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Yeah unfortunately most of what she does that incriminates is verbal. It's not like I even want 100% custody because kids are so attached and she's good to them but yeah.... My old man was saying if she tries to stay home AND put them in daycare and pull the 'i need a break' crap like she did during marriage when she was at home then I'd have a case for full custody lol Oh and I did start journalling on penzu. Yesterday daughter was mad because she wanted to play sonic . Had wanted on weekend bu…
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 01:12 PM
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Well minimum wage here is 15 an hour. Lawyer said they normally impute 30k a year which is about that. Said that was ore covid though.... Was a quick consult not sure if she reaLizes she has a business and marketing degree. Might be tough right now to find something
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 01:10 PM
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Actually an older female lawyer is exactly who has been giving me a bit if free advice here and there so will official hire her since mediation is a bust. Actually has been quite kind so far and has tried to coach me to resolve as much as I can without opening a file. Think she felt a bit sorry for me and a buddy works with her 'partner'
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 04:17 AM
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Yeah as much as I don't like the way society is going and promiscuity of women, screw this guy in all honesty. Ruining people's lives for fun is going too far.
/r/MGTOW15/05/20 12:44 AM
22

Satire is the word I was looking for. Hard to believe anyvoyd is that dumb and comes across as a troll attempt. Consider a woman could have been one of the victims even loo
/r/MGTOW15/05/20 12:21 AM
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Pretty sure that's sarcasm. I would hope so
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 11:54 PM
1

Well I never hoped to have sex with anyone before I married my wife but I'm a dinosaur I guess lol even though I'm only 33. Suppose what she's saying didn't apply to me despite saying all men. But yes for those normal people just having some fun while you're young I'd apparently rape and you must marry them! You can't just have fun and see whether you like them and can see a future together. I'm curious if the opposite is true in her eyes. If a guy is madly in love with a woman and they have sex…
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 10:39 PM
0

I know I've been a caused of it before. Sometimes can seem like a fine line. I'd say no. Outright attacking women does t help the cause. I can't help but shake some of the problems women have in general in relationships, marriage... To me it's more about societies warped view on things and women's inflated expectations more than them being evil or inferior or whatever. Sometimes I probably misrepresent that or lose sight of it. I just feel like marriage in current state affairs is bs, rigged in …
/r/MensRights14/05/20 10:32 PM
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Yes there is such thing as having to get it as a teenager. It can get infected and conditions like phimosis. It happens. My cousin also had some issues although I don't know if he got circumcised over it. Wasn't so much sexual preference as it was in parts of Asia it's not even a question. Everyone has it done. I personally thought benefits outweighed the drawbacks but now not so sure. In hindsight I prob would have just let it be but don't feel anyone is a monster for either option
/r/MensRights14/05/20 08:02 PM
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Except that he was obviously stating so with the idea that there were very few drawbacks to not having a foreskin. I get that you can find research showing there are some drawbacks and I will leave the researchers to that.. in his case having experienced both he didn't see any drawbacks in his own opinion. Now I agree most people won't have to experience it and he's speaking from his own trauma. Trying to compare it to a mastectomy does more damage than help for the cause. Nobody would compare t…
/r/MensRights14/05/20 07:59 PM
10

Hmm j actually thought for a minute that guy was going to try to break it up and then him and the other weasel just whio our their cell phones. Was just getting a better view
/r/MensRights14/05/20 07:17 PM
3

I'm suggesting here it doesn't even require any kind of sex... But yeah she probably just presumes in 2020 a guy can't date a girl without sex which is getting closer to reality
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 06:56 PM
2

Honestly I thought the same thing before experiencing marriage and getting too share with experiences with other married men. People you think are the ideal couple. I had to find out the hard way. The reality that like what 80% of divorces are initiated by women? You start to read between the lines a bit more even around people you aren't as close with and realize very few are actually happy. What people are sold is often a lie. Unfortunately many people have to find it out first hand
/r/MensRights14/05/20 06:49 PM
0

Just too many stories from other guys is all. The illusion almost never holds up when you get to know people. The nagging wife who always expects him to improve while doing nothing herself seems to hold up more often than not. Many maybe not as bad, others worse. The marriage jokes always said tongue in cheek generally do have a lot if truth behind them. We have sayings like happy wife, happy life, etc. I guess I scoff when I read about healing and comforting with demons etc. Too often I read ab…
/r/MensRights14/05/20 06:39 PM
2

A lot of these ring true. 5 for sure and 8 she was depressed and struggling with childhood issues. With 5 it didn't matter if she told me 2 years ago. The fact I still added it to my list of things when I finished work was taken for granted Oh and she was a perfectionist. Think her mom was probably abusive I'd it wasn't a certain way growing up. Our pre marital counsellor told her she was a nitpicker and that it would be the thing to kill our marriage if it didn't stop
/r/MensRights14/05/20 06:34 PM
6

Well I only had a couple girlfriends before my wife, but was married and I don't think I've ever actually experienced being loved by a woman
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 06:31 PM
2

Men shouldn't be seen as employees in their marriages to begin with. That's the point. I was generally treated as a hired hand and appreciated for what I could provide.i didn't even realize how much it messed me up until it was over
/r/MensRights14/05/20 06:22 PM
6

Worked my ass off the whole marriage to try and please her. People said I was like her slave.. even her own family made comments. I can hold my head high knowing I did what I reasonably could and it was never enough
/r/MensRights14/05/20 06:14 PM
1

Also the current system of divorce really rewards those that don't want to work and just stay at home. It assumes they aren't working as a sacrifice for the kids a d the husband wants it. I. Reality many, like my ex, just never wanted to work even when I tried pushing a bit. Now you could argue those that really do give up careers need to noe provide for themselves.. but often the one paying child support and alimony can now barely support himself. Also because she doesn't so much more time at h…
/r/MensRights14/05/20 05:52 PM
5

So people aren't allowed to just have fun and take peopl out anymore? I guess I'm also traditional and old school because I don't automatically assume having a girlfriend and treating her right means I'm having sex. I personally waited. Would it still have been rape if I had decided not to go through with it?
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 05:18 PM
2

Oh trust ne in looking forward to when I can finally move out. There will be cake. I'll say with kids though it's not as simple. I'll miss when I don't have them but also have a bit more freedom. And in terms of saving money it will be hard ... Tack on 1169 in child support then whatever section 7 expenses are not covered under that... Then whatever spoudal support .. not gonna be a lot left to save . Still as long as I can pay the bills and out away a little I'll be much happier with my peace i…
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 04:39 PM
2

I'm intact and the head definitely does feel the most sensitive and then also just under the ridge
/r/MensRights14/05/20 03:21 PM
8

I have been watching it lately on prime. I really enjoyed the first season or two. Does trail off a bit after but still has some gems. Maybe I'm also getting tired fighting this divorce and some are too painfully true
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 02:56 PM
2

Yeah think he had phimosis which sounded terrible enough by itself and then he talked about how long he was sore for afterwards. He just questioned why his parents never had it done for him and said he wouldn't wish having to go through that in anyone. He said why wouldn't you have it done even if the risk of phimosis and stuff is small he said you don't want it
/r/MensRights14/05/20 02:54 PM
2

If it makes you feel any better I had a friend who had to get it done well into his teens. He said people that don't get it down as a baby are basically crazy and he'd circumcise a son if he had it 10/10 times. I guess I find myself wondering if maybe you're struggling with a few different things right now and feeling more emotional. This may be what's budding to the top
/r/MensRights14/05/20 02:49 PM
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Yeah your have to charge an arm and a leg because payout rate so high. At that rate better to just hope the pre nuo holds up.
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 02:46 PM
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I'm still not convinced majorly in one direction or the other but I know many up in arms about it. My friend who had to get one as a teenager will tell you that you're crazy not to get it when you're a baby and would tell everyone else to have it done to their sons. There were times I kind of wish my parents had gotten me circumcised but I'm good with what I've got. Had my son circumcised but sometimes wonder if I should have just let him be. Of course the ex never doubts any decision and wonder…
/r/MensRights14/05/20 01:49 PM
1

Used to be pretty hot. Did a bit if modeling in her home country. Wall is starting to catch up and her unhealthy lifestyle. Held it off until later 30s because she's half Asian. She's still pretty but age is catching up. Despite her being overweight I still found her attractive. Surprised you can't be attracted to a girl that's a little overweight. I dunno.. not something I'm worried about going forward. I just want a simple, peaceful life with my kids. I'm done with mind games and being manipul…
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/20 01:46 PM
3

I've never heard of being in separate homes even being a requirement. Every place I've heard about, including here, you can be separated while living under the same roof. Some people just can't afford to move out . Some even stay after the divorce in a different room, maybe the basement. In fact if moving out before a divorce or at least a separation agreement it can screw you in the courts. I'm not moving out until our separation/divorce agreement is settled or until I can't take it anymorr
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/20 01:15 PM
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If the dude is seeing that on the second date I'm thinking no.... If he's actually stuck around for a while without getting it then I would hope he wouldn't need to read that to be convinced... Seems kinda counter productive imo... Hey guys I just met.. I just want you to see something so you know a little more about me...
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 01:07 PM
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Yes... She gets sex, they're her children too, she gets eaten out in exchange for sucking dick, heal me? Deal with my demons? Yeah right.. more like make those worse .. grow with me? Mine only grew side ways and became more calculating and petty... Also more if a Karen. Yeah they don't improve for the better
/r/MensRights14/05/20 01:03 PM
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In Canada a 12 month separation required as well . But in all practicality it means nothing unless the other person is fighting it. If you can both agree on a separation date then that's your date. Might want to ask about it there
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/20 12:57 PM
4

Some of us learned the hard lessons after we got married and had children, but as others said they're made not born. Even with my own boyi can only give him fair warning
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 12:44 PM
3

I'd personally just rather now have the drama, but that's me. No patience left for mind games which are always there. Also if one or both of you catch serious feelings you suddenly stoo thinking clearly and all that will go out the window
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 12:43 PM
1

Interesting.. I was going there for a bit and never even knew. Obviously not well advertised
/r/MensRights14/05/20 12:40 PM
3

Yeah we were together almost 10 years and I could count on one hand how many times she apologized. Half were a few years in and only after she had brought me to point if tears.for me it was almost every other day. Some cases shed nag the shit out if me then I'd have to apologize because my tone of voice being annoyed.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/20 12:38 PM
2

Where are these men? Id say if you make such claims burden of proof is in you.. but not practical on reddit. You'd have something anecdotal and so would I. See I used to think all these couples were happy.. although I still knew half would end in divorce. Then I got married and had friends getting married. By all appearances we prob looked happy but we weren't... We'd never say we weren't. I thought other couples were happy . But anytime I got to know them more they weren't really. Best case the…
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 03:12 AM
7

This. I used to think some of these couples were really happy... And every time I've actually gotten close with the other couple during my marriage I realized the guy was putting up with a lot if crap. Never fails. Also he failed to ask the other question. How many single guys are living happily? Quite a few from my experience....
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 03:02 AM
4

Gender dysphoria is more or less just a label for someone who feels distressed about their gender identity and an internal conflict. It really just validated mentally what the person is feeling and no more. I think everyone on either side would agree it's something in their heads. I guess as to why some people are saying who cares? Roll with it? I dunno. It seems most arguments normalizing it are in the name of kindness/compassion/tolerance whether misdirected or not. It's a pretty hard thing to…
/r/MensRights13/05/20 10:15 PM
3

Eh I support them in the sense I believe they deserve some human decency like everyone else. I can't say I understand it. I generally feel if someone believe they are something they aren't biologically born as whether that's another sex, anothero species, etc. Then they've got something just a little off mentally. And I don't mean that as an attack. They're human beings with people who love them like everyone else and shouldn't be ridiculed. I don't think it's perfectly normal and I think counse…
/r/MensRights13/05/20 09:22 PM
3

For me it's just I can't possible stomache more of them... Just want something different. It's like when the last batman movies came around I was already so sick of Batman movies. Think I was sorta same with bond. Well maybe a combination... By the time Daniel Craig came around they had started pumping then out so fast, but the last ones Pierce Brosnan had done were also terrible so I had lost all interest. Saw parts of casino Royale and the water one on tv but that's it
/r/MensRights13/05/20 08:39 PM
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Jeepers you're right. That's part of why he committed suicide. Knew my memory was fuzzy. He started it with his own money after getting out of abusive marriage. Bit lobbyist for men's rights. After a few years his own money ran out because he recieved no support and hung himself. Cited lack of support from government.
/r/MensRights13/05/20 08:12 PM
9

Pretty sure if we talked down about black people being more affected by sickle cell disease, heart disease, diabetes, and even yes.. corona that wouldn't be very socially accepted. Nobody going around saying they're a weaker race or anything, not should they. That would be pretty racist right? Should we talk down about women because men are less likely (but still can) to get breast cancer? Or maybe that women are more likely to have depression? For every disease that affects a race or gender mor…
/r/MensRights13/05/20 07:48 PM
3

Sex stopped the moment she got kid #2... Like the moment she got a positive test, not born. She toughed it out to get pregnant and then didn't want to put in the effort because she didn't feel close enough to me. So yeah.. I know what you mean.... In my case I already decided I wasn't getting married again so it was like 'well I'm not looking for anyone else . May else try to make of it what I can and be there for the kids.' didn't realize how much more free and how much more peace if mind I'd h…
/r/Divorce_Men13/05/20 06:54 PM
10

Fun fact. There was a Men's shelter in Calgary at one point. It was shut down a few? Years ago because after he passed away the funding ran out and no one stepped in. Apparently he had been a victim himself and went on to become a successful business man and opened the shelter.
/r/MensRights13/05/20 06:44 PM
3

Right in sounds like a solid plan. Yeah I was willing to continue to suffer in exchange for being a full time dad... Was hoping we could just find a way to get along. I never realized how beat up I was though.. or how many things I'd given up that I enjoyed as well as friends. when she insisted she needed better in a marriage and chose to end it I was relieved and pumped as I planned to do things I'd wanted to get back to for a long time and reconnect with old friends
/r/Divorce_Men13/05/20 06:28 PM
1

I guess I'd have to watch it again.. don't even remember it really... Guess I was kinda young but was also confused at the time and at end I was like but that's not at all how I'd picturre shizo to be.. ok...if that's what they were going for
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 06:11 PM
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My only real piece of advice is do all this self improvement for yourself only .. don't do it for some future woman. You're reading about game that's why I wonder. If that's really a big goal to you and you think it'll make you happy good luck... But don't make it your end goal for this other improvement. Personally I've never cared about 'game' and since my divorce im not playing anymore. Too much bs, shit tests, mind games for my liking. Don't need to be in edge. We are in middle of divorce...…
/r/Divorce_Men13/05/20 06:10 PM
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Yup. That gas lighting you're talking about .. It's more a case where guys tend to remember thinks factually but they tend to remember how they felt and that becomes the reality of what happened. I sheepishly admitted this is what I thought to our first counsellor who was a woman . She heard me out and even seemed to kinda validate it like she agreed.
/r/Divorce_Men13/05/20 05:40 PM
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Oh boy... If I really look back and be honest the only times there weren't red flags was leading up to wanting something from me. Notably either if the kids or a new house. Her default from the get go was ultimatums and threatening divorce or that she was packing a bag to leave or just flat out flying off the handle and being cruel. Like you I never considered divorce an option.. justified things she said and did... Partially because of her past. Was in denial and she always did make a big show …
/r/Divorce_Men13/05/20 05:33 PM
4

Maybe im just sick of super hero movies but I thought both deadpool movies were completely forgettable. I had to think if I've even seen the second one the other day until I realize yeah I had seen it on the plane. Disney has been dead to me for a while now. I never went to theatres much but don't think I've even gone in 2 years. Everything is a live action Disney, yet another superhero movie, crappy new Disney star wars, or a reboot.
/r/MensRights13/05/20 05:22 PM
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Damn never thought I'd it that way.... Well my exes bio would say they same if she ends up signing up. I have this feeling she already has someone in mind though. For his sake I hope he's smart enough to stay away. He's mostly just not bothered with girls up to this point. Id have the dilemma of whether or not to tell him that she chose me over him because she thinks blasian kids aren't good looking .. yeah if I'd known she thought that way I'd like to think I'd have stayed away.
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 05:16 PM
2

No idea how Canada isn't orange.
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 01:37 PM
2

One could argue she should be guilty of drugging and robbing and he's guilty of drugging and raping which is a more severe crime. Regardless they should both be charged with something.
/r/MGTOW12/05/20 06:06 PM
21

Yeah... My ex wife let her skeletons out of the closet little by little. Not only did she wait to tell me one if the biggest ones after we were already talking marriage, but she even asked my opinion on someone in that situation before revealing it was her... If I'd known all this stuff much earlier I'd like to think with less investment I would noped out.. I was pretty naiive
/r/MGTOW12/05/20 04:19 PM
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Yeah I was never a fan of his qb work but I've recently become a fan of the human being lol. Sent a summary to my dad and he said I don't like his okay but this I like
/r/MGTOW12/05/20 03:54 PM
2

While there are a lot of stupid things in Canada I actually agree with this one. Don't play house for a prolonged period of time if you're not married period.
/r/MGTOW12/05/20 03:40 PM
2

Yeah there are still a lot in denial. I have a few people I keep in touch with from work and a few from church, also family members. In every case they all have their complaints about marriage. I can't say for any of thise who are still married that a single one has an enriched life because of it. Like me some of them have children they live dearly... But for the marriage itself it's 'tolerable' basically. Not bad enough to leave, especially with kids, but definitely not improved lifestyle from …
/r/MGTOW12/05/20 02:54 PM
23

I don't see the comparison because he pays to see girls naked and I get paid to so the same... What? Does she even read what she types? So guys pay her so they can see her naked... He does same with other girls and can't see comparison?
/r/MGTOW12/05/20 03:03 AM
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Kinda skimmed through. One thing that really jumped out at me right near the beginning is her bit considering her first marriage legitimate. So different then how I feel about marriage and seems a bit calculating almost... Imo religious/ceremonial marriage is the most legit marriage there is and the origin of marriage. The legal piece of paper only came along later and was just to provide legal rights for raising families and when divorce happens. Maybe just different way of looking at the world…
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/20 11:57 PM
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Sounds like a response to the recent backlash for guys calling the helplines only to be transferred to a line for guys that need anger management and perpetrators
/r/MensRights11/05/20 09:32 PM
25

Not all of us lol... I'm technically still married a bit longer. Started lurking a couple years ago when I was realizing a lot of this stuff msyelf
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 08:08 PM
53

The entitlement is unreal. Gauranteed if he has a pet she didn't do anything for him in father's day either. That's almost like women who say they've served their country because they're married Toa. Military man
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 07:04 PM
13

My whole childhood I was quite shy even though I was tall, muscular, good student and athlete. Never had much luck because of it.. well that and had some early setbacks that made it tough for me to pull the trigger even if there was interest. Looking back man... Dodged so many bullets. Too bad I got one right in the head at 24 that I'm just getting out of now... Some examples: This girl at my church growing up... Liked her when she got to high school. My friend told her and it was oh... He'd mak…
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 02:50 PM
5

Yeah by end if second season I'm like yeah he's actually a pretty good guy even though he acted douchey in season 1. Then after a few episodes of season 3... Ok he's kind of a loser now lol
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 02:13 PM
3

This is from stranger things season 3. It's a good show
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 02:12 PM
6

Yeah every guy is basically the back up plan. They always think they deserve a celebrity or professional athletes. Shooting for the moon. Reality is almost always disappointing for them with their redicukous expectations. As we were going down road to divorce I said I realized she settled in her mind for me and if she was notes attracted she wouldn't let every little thing get on her nerves and wouldn't get upset so easily. She was pretty quiet and didn't really have a good defense for that one.…
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 12:47 PM
8

Hey just finishing up this show! It's kinda crazy what they did to Steve....almost like they cut off his balls
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 12:40 PM
1

I enjoy it still.i will say I usually don't like you g to the big cities and prefer mid size and smaller. Tend to experience more culture and have more nature things to do.big cities are so similar regardless if where you are .. people usually aren't as friendly. Culture more watered down... Stuck look at architecture, museums, or shopping .. if you're lucky maybe there is some type of amusement park. I could see going to America for a bro game or siemthing Back to the title though.. yeah still …
/r/MGTOW11/05/20 03:03 AM
5

Yeah I find it's just adding fuel to the fire. It's not junk food/sweets. If you indulge once a week you will always have those cravings . I could have had sex every day of the week and been happy.. in fact I think 24 hrs after marriage it was like 7 times ane most if not body was actually starting to feel achey lol but if you sort of weed yourself off it becomes quite tolerable
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 04:26 PM
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Eh it's honestly not that hard. Maybe harder to once you break the seal. Was a virgin til 24 and waited until I was married. Since the soon to be ex cut me off I've gone almost 4 years now without and I stopped caring a while ago. Get the odd urges but even with a string sex drive forget about it after a while, especially if you keep busy. I'm going monk from here on out
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 03:07 PM
2

I'd you reverse the roles it's .. well she was dressed like a slut . Practically asked to be raped. Why drink with guys you don't know anyways? Why do you need to get drunk? Yeah both are pretty wrong lol
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 02:50 PM
15

Poor chump is gonna owe another 500+ a month in child support when she leaves him . Which we all know she will since she clearly doesn't respect him
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 02:46 PM
4

Yup I commented in there alread lol. Agreed with a guy saying when a guy shows vulnerability it's a turnoff to them. Triggered some chick in there who said it was anecdotal. I said when all the guys are saying the same it's not anecdotal. Comment hidden from downvoted days just because you found an echo chamber where guys agree... If anything that forum prob full or white knights
/r/MGTOW10/05/20 01:23 AM
2

Eh I didn't go 5 strong but has 2 kids with a trainwreck. Thing is once you're committed you justify their behaviour. You've already invested, or like me I didn't believe in divorce... She honestly would suddenly give me hope we were turning the corner and it would go right back after getting knocked up... Didn't realize until later she only started acting nicer when she wanted something big. I'll admit the second one was pretty foolish but I love the little dude. Best bad decision I ever made. …
/r/MGTOW09/05/20 07:51 PM
6

I'm constantly annoyed by nurses and teacher unions (mostly women) complaining they haven't had a raise in a while and God forbid governemtn makes you take a 1% pay cut. meanwhile those in engineering and design took a pay cut of 30-40% when they were rehired within the last few years after many being off for several months or a couple years .. many have either not received any raised or just like a 3% one since... No one bats an eye... But threaten to roll back 1%? Get out the pitch forks boys …
/r/MGTOW09/05/20 06:43 PM
3

Yeah I started carving out gym time and calling her out a bit more. Don't think she liked my newly found spine a always said her high bp was my fault and I'd cause her to die early. We had already been considering divorce. She had given ultimatums efore but I was at point where I wasn't Gon a beg her to stay anymore . had woken up and she had pushed too far.Well after not listening to doc and continuing to sit on her ass and eat sweets late at night she got further bad health news. She begged me…
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 11:57 PM
2

Oh goodness. Yeah my ex was some combination of cluster b.mom definitely a narc. She might be more on bpd side with some narc tendencies. With my 7 year old she started putting makeup on her for photo shoots a couple years ago... And some of the poses she asks if her... Jeepers. Makes me sick
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 06:18 PM
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Is she right though? Just because there are some silly memes out there is that really the first thing guys think when it comes to equal rights or feminism? Definitely not me lol. I just think of an obnoxious, mouthy, in your face woman who wants to received special treatment and get quota hired
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 06:02 PM
1

Yeah unfortunately in Canada that just doesn't happen. And hey to be fair she's a good mom (has her flaws) and the kids love her dearly. Unlike those cold hearted cunts you will find most dad's actually want their kids to have time with their mom. It's for their sake. I don't want to take her families money but I do want fair share of some liquid assets at least when we split. She's not touching the retirement money I've been saving . ivr been told I'm being more than fair/generous and need to h…
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 05:39 PM
1

I'm pretty sure a lot of people actually realize it's not in this case. I actually feel like I can hold my head up high having done everything I could to make it work. She just never loved me even when we married imo. And yeah financially things are going to suck for a while and being away from my kids is going to suck.. but I'm relieved to be moving out soon and able to finally have some peace for first time in a while and freedom
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 05:26 PM
2

Oh trust ne. I'm dealing with it now. Mine is even a special case where her wealthy family tried writing loan notes and all my wages apparently went to consumables and all her family money went to equity. Mediator playing right along with it so I saw lawuers this week that said it's all bullshit. Not sure what your angle is here... I'm sure as hell not advocating anyone try marriage. There is literally no benefit for men other than kids. I was already committed before having my eyes opened and t…
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 05:11 PM
2

We are talking about a guy already in a relationship here. Men tend to have more honour for commitments. If you're not already snagged absolutely there is no reason to get involved in one. It's not that married guys are blind they just do their best to make lemonade out of lemons. Yeah she was an embarassing Karen at times and out on weight after a couple kids but I really did try to make the best of it and try to see her in a good light. Was trying to live up to my vowa Was just never good enou…
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 04:42 PM
1

As far as I know other than Iran the middle East has done pretty well through this haven't they? Also much of South America. Pretty sure these are all male run countries. Also for all these promoted women run countries the majority of them have male health ministers. Its amazing how even in Christian circles you will have people touting this crap when the Bible specifically uses 'women rule over them' as a sign of bad times
/r/MensRights08/05/20 03:44 PM
2

Nearing end of a long process of divorce. Never getting into a relationship ever again. Benefits are short term feel good hormones. End result is always disappointing. Yes it can cease to exist. The guy still sees positives in her and she gets bored
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 03:20 PM
1

Even if one can only do a couple of those when you're paying all the bills you expect shed at least contributed something? I mean cooking and cleaning a heck of a lot easier than tiling
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 03:13 PM
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Aww cmon man you know what I mean. I didn't even say can't live without. Said don't want to be apart from. Every young guy in love feels that way at some point. I realize that yes women generally don't feel that same way and that's the problem. But I also understand there is no one you literally cant live without and that people can become too codependent. Usually that feeling wears off after a bit and you just become comfortable and fond of the other person
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 03:11 PM
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Yeah she even said if I want can stop over when it's not my days.. it denying access to kids. Meanwhile it's looking more and more that she's keeping a fully paid house (parents rich) and the rental condo (she can have that.. toguh sell and not much equity). We each have same amount in tax free savings and then I amanged to out a decent chunk in retirements which I'm keeping. She's even saying originally was gonna stay at home with youngest.. finally waking up a bit and saying part time.. even s…
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/20 04:42 PM
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Looks like a trex with huge tumors on its chest
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 04:17 PM
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My parents already informed me the stbx is going full propaganda on her FB and spinning a narrative. Quotes about being dragged down and something about last decade being a waste. Naturally she made it so I couldn't see it but they copied it. Said it was trumo style propaganda cause hes not a fan lol. He was pretty insulted on my behalf knowing how much I did around Hosur and with kids stressed out after working such a long day while she doesn't work, sends the one not in schook to daycare a cou…
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 04:07 PM
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My opinion is both are very shitty things to do. I feel like both are an example of why society had gone to shit. Out of the two I can't believe she's trying to say killing the baby is a good thing. Jeepers. Why can't people just take responsibility and not have sex with someone they wouldn't be willing to at least co-parent with it not raising a kid with?
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 04:03 PM
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Yeah..it doesn't matter how much you gave up for her or how much you've forgiven her for. She won't be grateful or in your debt... I saw a post in djvocremen about a guy who's wife ran off with a guy in Minnesota buthe couldn't cross the border because a DUI. He was asking about if anyone has had luck winning then back from another guy.i asked why he'd want to... Wouldn't you want someone fully committed with both feet? Of course he said he lived her. Also said she wanted to move down but her ot…
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/20 03:58 PM
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Yeah it's honestly disgusting . Just looking for a tool for for the job instead of living life and stumbling across someone they feel they just don't want to live apart from... The guy is screwed before he even met her
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 03:55 PM
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Yeah I'm in Calgary so cost or living isn't as bad. So you have a roommate with your kids visiting? I had briefly though of maybe having a roommate but then thought might be uncomfortable with having my 2 kids there... Had thought well would be nice for them to each have their room but realistically I'll share with boy or sleep on couch when they're older. I was thinking a 2 bedroom basement somewhere. If your situation works out I could consider 3 bedroom and share costs but would have to heavi…
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 03:52 PM
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You know believe it or not there was a time when sex was actually reserved for people you were deeply in love with and thought for sure you might marry or were already engaged to, or married to. Not just someone who you had drinks with, glanced at you a certain way, messages you on an app...maybe just a guy a work who said be a good slut and suck my dick or siemthint vulgar that strangely turned them on .. yeah... Back when people weren't just wild animals .. sorry Darwin the de-evolution of man…
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 03:32 PM
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I wish I'd been able to finalize things before this. We had just started mediation. I've spent this past week using lawyers free consultations and trying to find one to help me figure out how badly the mediator and her are screwing me since it seems very one sided so far
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 03:24 PM
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It's disgusting how they say husband shopping and just looking for the right tool to fit the bill for what they feel is missing. Instead of you know . Just living life, improving yourself and coming across someone you suddenly realize you don't want to be without. Romance is dead and sadly I still have an idealistic view of what it 'should' be... Since it's not what the hell is the point.such a person who is just looking for a fit for purpose tool is not only going to end up resentful and unhapp…
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 03:22 PM
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Been there done that. I bent over backwards to cnhange and barely recognized myself until I finally pushed back near the end. And she was definitely a Karen. Had to fight every battle, ask for every exception, get employees for trouble even if the ad is pretty clearly not what she had in mind. And then shed turn around and get mad about me not having her back when she was an embarrassment. Nothing was ever good enough for her Just remembered something else that pissed me off... Told my daughter …
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 03:09 PM
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Your laws there seem better than Canada. I would like 50/60 but of course she's arguing for 70/30 based on the fact youngest is 3. Also until she gets a job if just be putting him in daycare instead of with her... She has me questioning myself what is really best for the kids .. I'm willing to give her 6 minths or a year I'd that before we go 50/50 but she wants until he's in gr 1.. which is 2 years .. the law here is anything less than 60/40 means I pay 100% child support for both which is 1169…
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/20 02:59 PM
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Damn that's insane. You must make a lot more than I do but reality is the living cost of the broad and the kids doesn't change. No way she needs that. In my case she doesn't even need what I'm giving her. Her family is rich and her house is fully paid. The talk is to try and keep alimony low... I already have to pay 1k just to tent a 2 bedroom basement suite probably. I make just a bit under 5k a month after tax so 1k for rent 1169 alimony.. youngest daycare is over 1k... That's over 3k before I…
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 02:19 PM
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I'm sure you prob did. I mean most of us can tell you seeing a nicely shaped chest gives them a biological response. I keep hearing it's social conditioning and in Europe not a big deal. Pretty sure even guys in Europe get rigid if a chick with a nice rack comes through topless... Correct me if I'm wrong
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 10:02 PM
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Lol ok now that's funny. People have no humour anymore . I mean obviously you were trying to get a rise and that's what ya got. In all seriousness the dude probably paid for that house and the equipment in it. Sounds like a control freak like my ex who thinks her way of doing things is the only right way
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 08:57 PM
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Fair point. Certainly wasn't excluding then when I said society.
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 08:11 PM
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I'd make sure to add women's heightened sense of self importance and increased expectations as well to that. Also a byproduct of our society
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 08:01 PM
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Cue all the people who start questioning his motivation and whether he's as nice as he says he is... Someone who says anyone who days they're nice generally aren't etc... All that bullshit. Because you know people can't generally want to treat others as they'd wanna be treated without some sinister motivations. Also you can't possibly get annoyed that there isn't much interest from people who tell you to just be yourself or that they want that type of guy or it invalidates the fact you just gene…
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 07:38 PM
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Honestly within those 50 percent how many are truly happy and among those happy... How many would be just as happy single? We all have that picture of an 80 year old couple still in love. Well that's the exception my friend. Even those friends who seek to be making it ok I still feel better off than them. They still have to deal with more headaches then positivies. This is coming from someone who is religious. I think what God made was beautiful but sin changed all that and society and feminism …
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 07:25 PM
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I wish more people took marriage and their vows seriously. Although there are plenty of crappy religious people who take it too far and lose original meanings. Like Jesus speaking against people who divorced for any and all reasons and then the rest of us swing the pendulum a little too far and put up with abuse for years. Although if she'd taken her vows and her faith more seriously that wouldn't have happened either. Too many people claiming to be Christians who really aren't
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 06:31 PM
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Pretty much. Do unto others you would have them do to you. Straight from the bible and at least for me it's regardless of gender
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 06:08 PM
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Jeepers well money won't be on your list of problems in life. Congrats on that
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 05:48 PM
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Eh many of us who grew up in the church are told from a young age that divorce isn't an option. I was the same way and was willing to work with her right up until the end despite the treatment I got. Maybe wouldnt have stuck around if it weren't for the kids. . Basically you out up with it as long as you possibly can. Thankfully my interpretations of scripture is that remarriage is adultery so even if I suddenly stopped believing the deck is stacked against us I have another safe guard lol. Im m…
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 04:42 PM
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I wish child support was that low. Im in Canada and have to pay 1169 for child support. That's before alimony.. Or course once we get 50/50 and she finds a damn job it will prob go down a few hundred.
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 04:39 PM
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I was watching the woman's expression as he rattled off what she ate... Almost looked smug but think she was inwardly embarrassed and all she could do was sorta act amused.... Disgusting what she scarfs. With how much food costs these days how does she even afford all that every day? That's like q couple thousand a month just on food at least
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 01:58 PM
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Originally read that as in commentators are disabled lol... Works both ways in a lot of cases
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 01:45 PM
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I've never ought that line of reasoning. Breasts are for feeding babies... So there can't be a dual purpose? Asses are for pooping and people find then sexual. Vagina for giving birth and well different hole, same region for peeing. If they aren't sexual then why do they get turned on when playing with their nipples? Some almost need a bit if nipple play to orgasm. So no that's bullshit
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 12:53 PM
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Did a diploma program at a tech school in Canada in engineering. Was off Toa. Decent start... Had a slow patch I survived and then went to oil and gas. Had a few good years making over the 6 figure mark especially with ivertime then 90% of my co-workers (we were at 400 in our department at peak)got laid off before I finally did. A few months later took a survival job at school board as a 'junior drafter' for a year before getting back into oil and gas... But at the time couldn't even give me any…
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 03:25 AM
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Yeah I have no doubt left and am relieved. Hell I was relieved after the first counsellor when we decided to go that way.. then or course all the church friends get involved and pastor and it's like crap.... Ill work with her as king as she is willing for kids sake and I'm not looking for another wife so I'll do it but had already started to move in and look forward to being free. By second time holy crap.. wanted to make sure and even asked before signing agreement with mediator but I'm stoked.…
/r/MGTOW06/05/20 12:52 AM
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From what's in the image I don't see those as benefits. So basically If you're not married you have enough savings that you can afford to quit a job you hate without having another lined up... Also you can do something you enjoy instead of just finding the highest paying one. You don't have to slave away and overtime because your monthly budget us much lower. Trust ne .. as I am going through divorce and looking at our budget I had no idea how much it crept up in last few years. I knew I felt pr…
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 07:13 PM
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I think i have to agree on this one. I consider myself a bit more moderate than some around here. I don't mind debating or conversing in other subs but I don't think it's unreasonable to have a safe space or two on Reddit for guys. Reading is open to everybody as with any sub but discussions are for the fellas. Nobody should be taking that personally
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:37 PM
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What she means is you'll find someone to love YOU. She will find someone else to extract resources from and keep them around while it's convenient
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:32 PM
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More likely they will find someone else in the side. Plenty of guys will still bang a fatty, let alone someone just a bit chubby
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 04:31 PM
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This was an almost weekly occurence for me. Shed ask why I didn't initiative conversations to 'fix things'. I'd try it once or twice a week and that's exactly what it was and then we'd go a few weeks and she'd get mad I 'gave up'. I'd explain well it sure doesn't seem to be helping, just making things worse... Just a forum for you to tell me how terrible I am and how badly I've messed up
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 01:26 PM
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Basically same for me..but s bit behind you. A couple years ago could more or less see writing in the wall. There were times before that j thought it might be inevitable but a couple years ago was when I realized no matter how much I changed it would never be enough for her. My buddy was going through a tough time in his marriage and we both shared about how bs marriage was. I think I'd also been reading a. Bit about red pill. I had just moved and she was being such a cunt when we should have be…
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 01:32 AM
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This and if you don't do it soon you will find yourself out of the House and paying child support for in extra kid that isn't yours...sorry it sucks being the messenger but she has no love it respect left . If she had any she lost it the moment you let her get away with it
/r/Divorce_Men05/05/20 12:27 AM
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Gender will not be a reason to be unwelcome to this sub ... Ok if it's the people asking the questions I could see a woman . But the sub is literally called askmen. I guess asking women to not butt in and think their own input is so important is too much to ask? Isn't there an askwomen sub?
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 10:05 PM
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Same question I ask in half these threads. It's not just the financial burn.. it's everything else
/r/Divorce_Men04/05/20 10:00 PM
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We have twin sisters at the gym with huge asses like this. After a certain size all you can think of is how much cellulite is in that ass.. how much it must droop... How loud are the farts and how much must she plug up toilets
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 08:12 PM
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Shows you how little their value is when it's bit even the original trilogy. Well rogue one or solo would do I think.. maybe phantom menace.. rest basically don't exist
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 01:09 AM
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Eh he thinks it's weird but young guys are supposed to be obsessed with getting laid and then media and society tells us finding 'the one' and having a family is supposed to be the ultimate prize or pinnacle of fulfillment.. Reality is often disappointing.. but when you look around you realize that almost never works out and some of the most fulfilled people just focus on their passions and friends/family. I've personally always felt I loved more than I've been loved. Only really had shirt term …
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/20 05:48 PM
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Ah you spent some time up in fort mac likely. I mostly work back in the home office but did spend a bit of time up there supporting construction
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 05:03 PM
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Don't have to imagine much. I know that's exactly what happened with my wife. People even questioned if that's what happened before I married but wasn't hearing it. Daughter just isn't old enough to be dating yet. Hopefully doesn't follow in her footsteps but can only do so much to prevent it.
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 04:58 PM
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Think you answered your own question. You get horny occasionally but once you get that post nut clarity you realize it was just hormones. Only reason for a guy to desire a relationship in 2020 is for kids. You already have one and sounds like you value your space, freedom, money, don't like drama, etc. Imo why bother? What would you have to gain?
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/20 04:51 PM
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Nope. Only for dentistry and like some me cosmetic stuff really. I wouldn't be opposed to adding a tier to take some relief off public. God knows the taxes that go to it is astronomical, but that's considered heresy around here. All the so called experts on the internet in Alberta think that has been proven false. I had family in Singapore so thought it was great getting a vaccination there, in and out in no more than 15 mins and laid very little. I get no privatizing heart or brain surgery.. bu…
/r/MGTOW03/05/20 02:58 PM
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Eh it's all 'free' here in Canada. Might have cost tax payers more then
/r/MGTOW02/05/20 02:02 PM
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I'll chime in as I had one kid delivered each way. First one was pretty long labour.. I think mass worse because when her water broke and she didn't have interactions they gave her something to soften her cervix.. then pitocin which makes contractions way more intense.... Then epidural.. all the intervention... Was in hospital almost a full day...recovery did take some time.. was kinda pampered as we were overseas with rich family. Second one was planned c section. Boy was alreasy 10.5 lbs with …
/r/MGTOW02/05/20 03:16 AM
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Yeah I should have realized something was wrong when everytime someone asked her what drew her towards me she said she was looking for a prospective man and a uncle figure to her said while helping with her new place that I had the best work ethic..... Lol. That was one of her main reasons besides being a man of faith etc
/r/MGTOW02/05/20 03:07 AM
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Sad thing is it's not that they don't have or didn't have hobbies.. it's the fact they have had to give them up... I know from experience... Last couple years of marriage said screw it I'm going to the gym... I'll do a couple days during week and one on weekend. You make it work.. no more guilt trips. Prob one if reasons she wanted divorce. Started losing control. Looking forward to watching NFL all day again... Hiking will be more enjoyable not dragging her lazy and out of shape ass around and …
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 10:54 PM
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Yeah I have a Friday off tomorrow so will be calling around. Not answering the mediators email from today until I've spoke to a few. Mediator really pushing for when are you moving out and let's talk how much alimony and whether lump sum or monthly... This after I told her I was going ahead and moving my paycheque to another account and would cut ex off if it weren't for covid and not bring able to find a job but for now would maintain the balance (with extra going to mine) but no more... And we…
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/20 10:39 PM
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A man with proper priorities. Hobbies and passions first. No time for women. Shed prob ask him to give it up because it's dorky or siemthint stupid
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 10:18 PM
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Denial... Yeah . He's looking fir advice? Only advice should be to get out now. Even if she's not cheating or won't in the future you will be entering a long term relationship.. God forbid a marriage like mine where she settles for him and then resents him and treats him like shit while playing manipulative games and making him think he's the problem...
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 09:10 PM
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I'm a big believer they should.. but they shouldn't ask for handouts. I think both men and women should take responsibility for their actions and not just kill the baby and avoid it. Reality is they should have made better decisions before a baby was involved and if it comes to it accept the responsibility when they mees up
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 09:06 PM
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I've only had a couple gfs including my ex wife.... Of course one said she was great at it and fat chicks are supposed to be but nope . Was awkward and her jaw got tired/sore so had to finish myself off... Second one used to be an escort and was same thing..
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 08:48 PM
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My stbx is pushing for it despite getting the fully paid house and keeping her savings. Only thing I get I'd my savings and retirement (there were loan notes from rich family involved). I can't believe how pretty she is. Doesn't even plan on working full time.. wants to be part time til oldest is in full time school. Just wants to leech off me and her rich family like the last 10 years. I told mediator consider alimony already paid... Sadly mediator only listening to loudest voice in room and I …
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/20 08:42 PM
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I never even considered seperation. Always thought it was dumb. No reason to ride the fence
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/20 08:40 PM
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Man tell me about it .. mine is a little nicer than yours. Wants to give me 10 days a month... But my question is why not 50/50. And mine doesn't even have a job. Hasnt worked in 10 years. At first wasn't planning on working for another 2 years when youngest in school. Keep saying I won't be paying her bills (although her mom is rich) and she can to to work. Now she's talking part time .. of course it's looking like she keeps the fully paid house and still wants alimony (yes I'm gonna xall a law…
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/20 08:24 PM
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Yup. That was always my viewpoint as well. I probably could have played victim and said she was abusive... etc. Certainly was verbally and emotionally. My old man just heard way she disrespected an talked down to me and said he'd have been out the door hinself. Even tried getting physical for a bit. Many people divorce thinking they will find someone who will treat them right. Aftwr a couple divorces you realize where the common denominator is. I went into the marriage without any huge expectati…
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/20 07:11 PM
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Yeah that sucks... My stbx tried to assassinate my character when we were still 'happily married' a couple years ago. During a fight I made mistake or sharing that even my parents thought she treated me like a hired hand. So she cut them off Facebook so they couldn't see things if our kids in there. After adding them back she sent an email saying how much trouble we'd been having... Even said things like I was abusive and stuff... It really bothered by mother but my dad or course said cmon you k…
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 05:03 PM
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We are in divorce process now. She fully intends to find another sucker. I can tell you why I didn't leave her ass the moment she started with that crap and all her other shenanigans. Fact is I never considered divorce an option. That's how I was raised and my religious indoctrination. I was in it for better or for worse.. I mean that's what we day during our vows right? Even if they are willing to throw it away on a whim. Sure some of it was theatrics but it revealed how little she valued the m…
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/20 04:52 PM
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This. They are either only looking at top 10% of men and scoffing at decent guys or they must really be extremely low value. It's not hard as a woman
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 08:38 PM
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Nice . Reminds me of some of the spots in the Ottawa valley right off the river... Peaceful cottage country
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 07:21 PM
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And as you know if you do find one that's decent looking chances are she's been run through a thousand times and had an overly inflated ego. As you mentioned your competition is endless. Nothing you could ever do would make her happy
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 07:18 PM
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Eh I think it goes deeper than that and 'normal' females aren't victims in this. Today's society is one where their orivledge is very really and the ego of a normal one is inflated. Any average woman has her phone blown up and constant validation on social media. Men are expected to still fulfill all their old responsibilities and then some, women are allowed to shirk traditional responsibilities (and the 'freedom' to add new ones). They're actually allowed more privledged without the responsibi…
/r/MensRights29/04/20 07:12 PM
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Yeah.. I once had the ex tell me that I shouldn't have any hobbies that aren't productive or add value to people around me like my family. Her spending time online shopping added to our living environment . (Glanced over her Netflix). I asked what about her family members. Well her uncles golf is for business connections. Can't remember what reason she gave for playing instruments.. prob the fact they sometimes jam together. But yeah a real cunt trying to tell me I can't just enjoy wasting time …
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 05:38 PM
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Yup... I'm not even all that eager to fight it that much.. just want to be free of her at this point and hope j can get 50/50 with kids with enough to live simply
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 05:19 PM
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This is my marriage. I think she settled and that was the biggest issue. I was just a safe guys she ended up resenting.. but from day 1 it was all about how I have to change and how I wasn't good enough. She had her flaws but I always just accepted them. Eventually I got fed up and realized it would never be enough. She insisted I had to keep working and I said I'm afraid j can't give you that.. Ed have to agree to disagree on some of these issues, it's never enough, and I can't be that guy you'…
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 04:17 PM
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Doesn't help that most of us are already so sick of super hero movies at this point.
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 04:10 PM
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To be fair this is one of those everyone sucks here types of things. Those boyfriends also had other girlfriends. Society as a whole is just degenerative even in places that are supposed to be more conservative
/r/MGTOW29/04/20 04:09 PM
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Meh maybe it's declining. honestly think trying to have it all and joining us in workplace hasn't helped. Neither has sleeping around, divorce rates rising, kids without a dad... BUT women being unhappy and dissatisfied goes all the way back to Adam and Eve :p
/r/MensRights28/04/20 10:49 PM
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I think part of it could also be backlog. I know we started our proceedings at start of year but had out on hold for weeks before having a video call with mediator recently. I don't doubt seeing more of them all the time can drive you crazy. I was laid off back at end of 2015 and being off a few months me and stbx were already driving each other crazy. Do I don't doubt that's a contribution
/r/MensRights28/04/20 10:25 PM
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Had a good laugh with my old man. He's realizing the act she out on as a good christian woman. Told him even when we talked moving out and stuff she said she was basically already thinking of next guy. He said well shes probably still thinking like when she was young and hot.. not like when she's past 35. He said some guys might think I'll move in for some fun and end up bailing the moment things get tough. Basically said pump and dump without the lingo. I said yeah she's in for a real wake-up c…
/r/MGTOW28/04/20 09:34 PM
1

Eh when you're feeling neglected and your self esteem is down a bit if female attention can feel amazing. It's perfectly normal imo. I can remember when my ex was pregnant I felt like a nobody... Treated like crap with excuse of hormones. At the time I was getting attention from a fwnale coworker I had just met and was really enjoying it but realized I had to distance myself and went to another team when opportunity popped up. Also experienced same thing when writing was in the walk in my marria…
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 09:21 PM
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I hear you... Mine isn't that bad but in the future? Maybe. We are just going through divorce now. A couple years ago I would catch wife saying things like don't marry a guy like your father. Make sure he does this or that for you etc. Put a stop to that but then another day daughter asked me why I didn't stand up for mom when a certain scenario happened etc. She realized she should stop and mostly did I think but even though it's been a couple years damage still done. I don't feel as close to h…
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 09:15 PM
1

Honestly it doesn't matter. Eventually she will get bored. They all do. Even the most alpha guy gets cheated on. Why bother jumping through hoops for them?
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 09:01 PM
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It's hard to argue otherwise without using hormones/feelings
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 09:00 PM
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That's one if the reasons why I wonder why even bother. I mean my ex was supposed to be a third generation Christian but used the divorce word in the first week if marriage... I somehow dismissed it thinking she was just barking but ultimatums ended up being one of her main strategies. Years down the road I finally realized she truly never cared about the marriage that much. I truly was disposable.
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 08:59 PM
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Honestly the only thing you're giving up is this lie that we are all sold. If you think I'm jaded then just look around you. Other than that 80 year old couple that still seem happy hie many people you know married more than a few years that genuinely seem like their lives are better because of it? I can't think if any..best is that they 'make it work' or something functional. Majority of people either divorce or settle for something worse than things were when they were single
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 08:56 PM
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I can't say I've ever had a relationship add much to my life other than those feel good hormones and dead weight afterwards. At this point I feel similar to you except if I met someone along the road I feel it would be a mistake. You will never be more at ease, less stressed, and more free than without a GF or spouse. I have kids . Yeah those butterfly feelings and sex are cool, but ultimately the cost isn't worth it. After being married I've realize my own peace or mind is more important to me …
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 08:53 PM
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Well my experience is she was unreasonable to begin with but somehow that mediation would work. Mediator seems to just want to listen to loudest voice in room (her) and now I'm thinking I may need to lawyer up. Her rich family giving 'loans' with notes makes it complicated and the thing that gets me is that mediator doesn't seem to support me at all just for wanting kids 50/50. Seems to side with my stbx of working towards that.. originally was gonna give me a draft that said review in 6 months.…
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 07:40 PM
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Pretty sure it's over... And despite the cousin being a crappy person I'd say your wife has her share of blame for playing along. She sounds about as useless as my stbx who does very little but apparently is so exhausted and says my job isn't physically intensive. After news or divorce my family suddenly coming out and saying yeah... You were basically her slave. Honestly once they lose respect it's pretty sand near impossible to gain it back. In my case I don't think she was ever that crazy abo…
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 06:39 PM
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Don't procrastinate like I did. Only doing it now a few months into mediation. Was told it would all be over in a couple months.. she has no job (but honestly not my damn problem anymore and her mom is rich). Maybe was too sympathetic because of corona and just worried about keeping safe. Surprised mediator didn't advise on this at all. Told stbx other day I'd be opening my own account and moving a chunk of money in here... Of course wasn't too happy despite me saying we'd agree in a monthly amo…
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 06:27 PM
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Yup. Rarely ever felt I could go see 'my friends'. Always told I should be friends with these particular people and how I should learn from them how to be a better husband etc. Generally were other guys whose wives also nagged them and ordered them around. Could see how little respect they were given.
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 06:07 PM
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I dunno if that's his aim here.. you know as well as I do that us guys are often in denial. Many on here could tell you it was going on right in front of them and they didn't want to believe it. Many if them also wish they had a buddy who would help snap them out of it. It's extremely likely she has been sleeping with the guy. It's unlikely his kids would have called them unless there was a certain vibe. Also her denial speaks volumes. Chances are the guy knows it but just doesn't know how to pr…
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 06:05 PM
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Tried marriage, didn't work out, not for me. The Bachelor thing? I wouldn't have it any other way. I already have kids so I'm having a hard time thinking of a reason why I'd want a girlfriend or something more. My marriage was always more of a burden than anything. I'll take my freedom and peace. Life was so calm and peaceful until I introduced a girlfriend and later wife. Nothing but drama and walking in eggshells Yup time to just focus on being best dad I can be and when their mother has them …
/r/Divorce_Men28/04/20 05:51 PM
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The words say Biden, but the baby hands say Trump... Im confused
/r/MGTOW28/04/20 01:27 PM
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Yeah I was keeping my eye in some vehicles before all this started. I always buy a fee years old and noticed they haven't budged much. I'm thinking who the heck is going to look at and test drive vehicles right now? Meh stopped paying attention to the listings that come in altogether. Gon a have to make due with my old car a little longer I think. Getting even more raped in divorce than j thought I'd be
/r/MGTOW28/04/20 01:25 PM
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This drives me nuts... My stbx even had kids going to preschool it daycare a couple times a week.. never full time mom. Even then she always complained how exhausted she was running chores and complained she had to cook every day. She always said when I got home and in weekend that she needed to go upstairs and rest .. that I couldn't possibly be physically tired like her because sat in my ass in front of a computer. Recently my 7 year old daughter basically repeated it saying mommy job is harde…
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 05:28 PM
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It's only 78% upvoted .. does that mean 22% actually downvoted? What the hell? Or is it just because it's not unpopular?
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:31 PM
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Eh I'd be pretty darn worried too as someone who had a daughter. Getting harder and harder to know what your kids are doing with smart phones and all. I'm really surprised how early some other kids are getting them. Obviously some form of monitoring will have to be setup until the daughter can be trusted again
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:25 PM
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Pretty sure that's supposed to be her leading the simp. All those hands sticking up are the past simps she's sucked dry and discarded
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:21 PM
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Dunno what rules are in America. I know in Alberta, Canada we are encouraged to walk around our neighbourhoods but keep 2 meters. People were going to Paris but noticed some were too crowded so closed parking lots at provincial parks. If you are within walking or biking distance you're free to go
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:20 PM
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I mean sure most people when they bend squat and are slightly bent they will have a bit. Not like most women these days where even standing straight up you could lose things in there
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:15 PM
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Eh my mom flat out asked me if I was sure she even loved me before I married my wife. Said she could tell I loved her but questioned other way around. I was just too invested and too stupid. My sister flat out talked bad about my her... My mom tried to like her but could tell she had her concerns.. they were both flat out right
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:13 PM
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Well I'm almost 34 here and I know things keep getting worse. What I can say from my small town growing up is that there was a girl who thought it was funny that her name backwards was analram.... And supposedly she got with this guy who reminded me of officer farva and apparently lived up to that name then turned around and blew him and apparently had a brown ring... I also heard of a couple guys having sex on a table in the middle of a party. So yeah plenty of degenerates
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:09 PM
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Support PS5 and that SSD... Teraflops shmeraflops....
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 02:05 PM
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Yeah it's killer. Mine wants alimony despite keeping a fully paid house. Currently I make about $4200 after tax a month but between rent (probably a 2 bedroom basement) and child support I'll already be up to about $2k. Then has, food, child care for one, before and after for other Ill have to pay a portion of.. doesn't leave me with mujc. Her main complaint is that she's losing her source of income (me) despite the fact she wanted this. She had a rich family so she's been milking both of us and…
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/20 07:45 PM
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Funny thing is I'm in similar situation. We chose mediation.. I should have known she'd be unreasonable. She loved to spend money in Renos and stuff. Her family is rich so bankrolled properties so no mortgage, but bankrolled a lot of wasteful crap too. 10s I'd thousands on Reno's every move and stuff. She sat on her ass at home even before we had kids. Well wanted a divorcd. Pulls out all these loan notes. Some I think we're for kids stuff even though she wants their account exempt. So on paper …
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/20 07:36 PM
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I get what you're saying. To me it's more about the kids themselves than the relatives. During visits they were surrounded by so many that showed them live. If the lawyer says only way I can ensure they don't get abducted is to keep them in Canada then inguess that's what has to happen though. No problem if a few if them want to come visit
/r/MGTOW24/04/20 05:48 PM
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Yeah the problem is just like it's not right for her to not return it's also not right to never allow the kids to see their relatives either though. It's tough and I need a lawyers opinion for sure.. once they're gone it's pretty grey... She was pushing for me to consent to allow them to visit relatives there as much as twice a year for 3 weeks. Myself and mediator basically said good luck holding down a job doing that. Of course I also don't want them gone so much. Makes it sound like she plans…
/r/MGTOW24/04/20 04:15 PM
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Thanks. Problem or course is the kids. Yeah her and her mom are the type who are just used to getting their way all the time and bullying people. I would love to bring people like that down. So smut about her loan notes which I don't think would hold up. On the other hand if I make it an expensive divorce the kids are going to suffer. Her mom could hire a fancy lawyer and my best bet would be her flipping out and doing something stupid in court or her health issues being aggravated. Mainly I jus…
/r/MGTOW24/04/20 02:31 PM
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Yup just finding myself again now. Believe my folks said I was her slave. And yeah she was strong and independent sitting on her ass and telling me I shouldn't be tired because I work in a computer while she's exhausted the days she actually has the youngest and running errands
/r/MGTOW24/04/20 01:42 PM
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What a whore! Nude coloured skin tight body suit? Man she thinks her pussy is worth 29mil+? Definitely much cheaper for dude to rent a different broad every night. Consider she will be giving it up to Chad instead once she has him trapped
/r/MGTOW24/04/20 01:30 PM
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Good Greif... Yeah my mediation is going south too... I'm trying to figure out how your mediation cost that much. For us it's 2k a piece which is already supposedly high. Lump sum but then again I feel she's kinda useless. In my case we have also been together almost 10 years, have 2 kids. Was half time work when we married then laid off a year later. Didn't bother getting a job, except a small home business for picket money. Got pregnant (could have collected mar leave otherwise....) Never both…
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/20 01:11 PM
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Yeah tbh her family is rich anyways. May be one area u look to reduce costs. Hate to lose what input in already but will cost me a lot more yet. I always just assumed with inflation it would be minimal cost down the road.. I dunno. Always had my kids in mind really.. but tbh they'll be taken care of anyways
/r/MGTOW24/04/20 12:14 AM
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Wish it were that easy. Not so much when you have kids. Good luck surviving like that with 2 kids. In my scenario I'm losing pretty much everything but my retirement and some tax free savings account money, but I still have to pay child support and have to have a place with at least 2 bedrooms. No way can I afford to buy. 2k a month gone just for rent and support. Doesn't count my life insurance, food, gas... Hope to feed them more than kd and then there is daycare, before and after care, their …
/r/MGTOW23/04/20 11:16 PM
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Eh I'm sure they didn't want to 'offend me' since it was my wife . Well to be fair my dad when he visited a couple times had asked at times how I felt when she talked to me a certain way and said things like he could see how frustrated I was. Other times said I had more patience than him and he'd be out the door etc. Turns out there was a lot still being held back. Also only visit once a year because it's a 4+ hour flight. I think my mom said a few things at times where wife was offended and my …
/r/MGTOW23/04/20 06:08 PM
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I'm the idiot that married a woman and at the time thought her strong personality was a positive. Later I found her an embarassing Karen and she ended up being a waste of space who added nothing to my life save my wonderful kids. She loved to sit in her ass once she had me and just extract resources and complain
/r/MGTOW23/04/20 05:45 PM
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Nah that's not the kind of sex he gets... He's the future husband... Starfish baby
/r/MGTOW23/04/20 05:35 PM
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