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I saw it happen to my ex-wife's dad. Poor dutiful bastard got fucked over on his retirement by his previous employer so he still still has to work full time. Then his dingbat cunt housewife (formerly my mother-in-law), who had no career in her life other than (I shit you not) as a hair dresser, decided she'd been married long enough and left/divorced him to go live on the alimony and (I assume) social security/medicare.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 04:16 PM
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And what happens if you get married (or even common law married)? 'Grey divorce' happens more often every day. So chances are good you'll end up old and lonely with no money after giving up decades of your life and accumulated wealth to propping up the spouse who decides to take what's left of the cash and ditch you in retirement. And that's if you make it to retirement before getting divorce raped, in which case you could be left paying alimony and child support for decades before ending up old…
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 03:55 PM
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Please go and ask a dating sub so they can give you a list. If you read what's posted in this sub and still want to date you're already ignoring red flags anyway.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 03:51 PM
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When tradcons criminalized disposing of miscarried fallopian goop without a funeral they jumped the shark. This liberal legislative circular firing squad is the ultimate result of having a one-party system. Their 'representation' in the state government is purely for show these days. It's basically a protest.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 10:45 AM
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It's an autistic exercise of legislative power but so are tradcon anti-abortion laws in Texas and apparently that's the point.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 10:41 AM
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Fucking tradcons will kill this law. Once a man is on the plantation cuckservatives want to punish him for even thinking about going his own way.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 01:45 AM
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Why don't you go ahead and wish for world peace too? Abortion is a practical solution that doesn't involve sky wizards performing magic tricks or wishful thinking.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 01:38 AM
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I'm fine with tax dollars going to this. You'll save more too. It's cheaper to abort than to drag a man into family court even once. Not to mention any public assistance the woman could get on top of child support checks, public school, and more spent on raising the kid.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 11:30 PM
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MGTOW should support abortion. Fewer unwanted kids means fewer men forced into court ordered wage slavery. Let women effectively sterilize themselves until they age out. Let the government fund it. Abortions are cheap.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 10:47 PM
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Good. Let's get that number up to 75 or 80%
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 09:33 PM
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This is basically it. The law places the burden on men regardless of whether men are ready or willing to be parents.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 09:12 PM
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There have been other court cases in the USA about paper abortion (or financial abortion) concerning men's rights. The courts always rule against men in these cases though...
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 09:10 PM
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This is a topic where MGTOW can establish separation from the overall TRP/MRA/PUA nonsense. Rather than bother with bogus strategies for constantly one-upping women in the pointless war of the sexes MGTOW can simply opt out of combat by avoiding women and therefore also the problems women create for men.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 03:21 PM
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OP is wrong. Stop perpetuating the falsehood that all men are just murderers and rapists ready to be unleashed on women and society at large.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 01:47 PM
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There is a simple lesson for all men in this: don't be 'nice' because nobody will respect you for it. Don't offer help or assistance to women. Don't audition for the role of protector and provider. Let them sink or swim on their own. Let them fend for themselves.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 01:42 PM
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I don't have a problem with this as long as she can't go after the sperm donor later for financial support. If women want kids that bad, let them have kids. There is no man to divorce rape or force into court ordered wage slavery. Just leave the rest of us out of it.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 01:38 PM
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SShhh! Don't tell the white power Christfags. They'll call you a marxist globalist sjw.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 03:56 AM
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I doubt that he's innocent. Just another man with money and power who fucks it all up seeking pussy. He's old school and thought he could get away with that shit. Another example of what happens when you don't go your own way and avoid women to begin with.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 03:35 AM
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The only way this could logically be considered assault is if the dude has diseases. Otherwise, it's still just sex. If the threshold for 'consent' is going to be any difference of opinion 'after' then every bitch who turns out to be an ugly shrek when the makeup comes off is a fucking rapist.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 12:37 AM
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Simply put: a man who lives by a code of honor.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 06:49 PM
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The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber has it all: Beta Bux, Alpha Fux, Hypergamy, etc... Hemingway was trying to warn all men back in his day.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 06:43 PM
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Telling men what clothes to buy is like telling them what car to drive. Are you next going to tell men to avoid physical exercise because, you know, muscle tone enables women to easily sort them?
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 06:34 PM
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This sort of shit is exactly why I didn't support my ex-wife's dumb idea to start her own pet-related business. Divorced now and so glad I dodged that forever-in-debt bullet.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 06:22 PM
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So will the cuckservative Trump shills who demanded MGTOW vote Republican because 'female candidate' now condemn the Le Pen bitch?
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 06:07 PM
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AWALT. There are plenty of divorce-raped conservatives out there to prove it.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 05:01 PM
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This is really the only potential solution but it also creates problems because it costs money to move too: cost of relocation, cost of transportation, possibility of further income loss depending on job availability, etc.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 07:29 PM
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Not enough when the rents exceed 50% of someone's income.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 06:51 PM
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About the only thing you can do now, outside of earning a bigger paycheck, is move to a place where the living expenses are more affordable and likely suffer through a longer daily commute.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 06:51 PM
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Seriously. Sometimes the articles include a story that begins with an admission like "I did this and it was wrong" then by the time you get to the end it's nothing but unrepentant bullshit like "but my life is so much better because now I know/feel/learned/blah blah blah justification" with absolutely no acknowledgement of anyone that cunt emotionally (or financially) damaged.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 02:29 PM
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The social safety net is not just in those places where, historically, poverty and racial divisions continue to result in higher crime and social unrest. The social safety net did not cause those problems to begin with. Many farms have been saved by subsidies (though corporations have come to dominate farming in general these days). When factories shut down putting laborers out of work in any American city there is public assistance available. These programs extend into rural white America just …
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:40 PM
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Taxes are not 'legal theft' and welfare programs are not an overstep or overreach of government power. There are many practical reasons for welfare programs. Lack of access to 'welfare' results in large swaths of the population unable to provide for basic life sustaining needs. In turn, communities are more vulnerable to disasters, public health crises, economic collapse, civil unrest, etc. The USA learned about this in the times before such welfare programs existed. That's everything from the d…
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:32 PM
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I see. Well if this is going to descend completely into hyperbole then how many bodies and beggars do you think the average American should have to step around during their daily commute?
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:20 PM
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I think the assumption that there can be peace and safety within the USA without regulation of commerce and a social safety net ignores much of the negative events in the history of this country.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:18 PM
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This is a legitimate fear. Why do you think the government has created infrastructure for mining internet and phone data for common communication, location, reading habits, etc? Beware of a resurgence of sedition laws.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:14 PM
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OK. Name something you do think the government should use taxes to pay for/subsidize. I guarantee there are others who don't want taxes to pay for the thing(s) you select.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:08 PM
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Medicare and medicaid exist precisely because the private sector failed to provide reliable and affordable solutions for citizens in the past.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:06 PM
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Not a straw man unless you happen to think taxes are unnecessary for a 1st world government to function, which is beyond ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 09:03 PM
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You have a poor understanding of how governments and taxes work in general. You might not want your tax dollars subsidizing health care for other people's (you know, like medicare or medicaid) elderly grandparents in different states. They might not want their tax dollars subsidizing the military contractors or energy companies or private prisons that 'provide jobs' in your state. At least most Americans seem to be OK with taxes paying for national parks regardless of who gets to use them... Giv…
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 08:59 PM
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From 2000 to 2006 the average premium for a family went up 78%. That's before Obama was elected. That's how the market operated before Obamacare. Whether your premiums got more affordable with Obamacare depends a lot on where you live. In some states Republicans sabotaged the mechanisms that were supposed to help relieve risk for insurance providers, like refusing to expand medicaid coverage to handle more of the sickest/poorest people. The 'situation' isn't worse overall. It's better in terms o…
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 07:44 PM
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Financially: you will lose a lot regardless of how the divorce plays out. Get your own lawyer. I was lucky in that my marriage was relatively short (5 years) and there was no house or kids to fight over and no alimony due but it still set me back 10 years financially because of the costs of supporting her that I could never recover. Psychologically: you might get depressed and think about suicide, or other equally impulsive and probably self destructive maniacal thoughts. Go to therapy if it get…
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 04:30 PM
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I think people have short memories when it comes to health care costs because the 'free market' has always increased the costs too high for many people to afford from year to year. That's why tens of millions had no insurance and it became a national crisis in the first place.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 04:18 PM
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Keep on sucking that Trump-dick with the rest of the herd like a good little lamb.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 04:07 PM
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It matters because right-wing cuckservatives want to enslave men on the plantation according to their Christfag traditions and taboos. Men cannot 'go their own way' under a religion backed oppressive police-state government.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 04:03 PM
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Wrong. Unions helped build a strong middle class in the 20th century and it's no surprise that since unions have declined to less than 10% of the American private sector workforce that wages no longer keep pace with the cost of living for the majority of working men. Thank cuckservatives for taking power away from workers and handing it to billionaires who don't give a shit if you work full time hours well below the poverty line with no retirement options or health insurance, thus forcing you to…
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 03:57 PM
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Wrong. For people who claim to not be 'sheep', cuckservatives like you are too damn easy to herd by right-wing politicians and demagogues. Even Russian propagandists openly joke about how easy it was to fool Trump supporters.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 03:53 PM
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Sounds like a bullshit artist to me. Just like the Bible.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 08:13 PM
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That conspiracy peddling scumbag went right back to the plantation and has another kid on the way with the new wife. I guess the court will find out if his imaginary 'performance artist' asshole personality can handle even more wage slavery.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 07:54 PM
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Truth: AWALT when it comes to cheating, monkeybranching, tingles for Chad, divorce rape, etc. Falsehood: Women do not experience human emotions.
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 04:28 PM
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Fuck you. This is fucking horseshit. I've seen my grandmother grieve firsthand. Women may be fucking terrible when it comes to their treatment of men but they're still human beings.
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 04:11 PM
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Similar. Divorced at 5 years. Wasn't long enough to mandate alimony and I doubt the judge would have awarded anyway since she wasn't a housewife. No kids or actual house to fight over. I got set back 10 years financially considering I paid all of the bills, and the ex-wife's student debt, and the car that she got to keep. Otherwise, she didn't get my retirement or my pay going forward so lessons learned indeed.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 08:21 PM
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They want to use the MGTOW label to spread their white power cancer.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 08:13 PM
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Last year, she stopped putting looks at the top of her dating criteria on Bumble, instead opting for guys who traveled a lot and were “make the most out of their lives” types. She got pumped and dumped by Chads and now she wants a Beta Bux.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 08:11 PM
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It promotes the feminist ideal of the disposable dad in society. I say let the women involve the biological dads and other male relatives. Otherwise, get personally involved at your peril. Worst case, as the article mentions, you get accused of impropriety that ruins your reputation (or worse). It's just your life.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 11:49 PM
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It's reasonable and even instinctual to want to help out kids. Women won't mind making that your responsibility while they ride the CC and find new baby daddys, making more bastards for other men to mentor while ditching the biological dads in favor of court ordered child support checks.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 09:43 PM
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Becoming a substitute father is basically the same thing as becoming a beta bux and funding hypergamy. If MGTOW are avoiding the negative aspects of life with women that includes avoiding being made responsible for raising Chad's or other betas' kids.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 09:36 PM
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This is as it should be. MGTOW should not volunteer to raise other men's children. Not as cucks. Not as 2nd husbands. Not as adopted dads. Not as scoutmasters or charitable big brothers.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 07:51 PM
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about these strawman cuck "tradcons" ftfy
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 05:29 AM
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Correct: there are currently MGTOW who are black, white, yellow, brown, and red -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, etc -- American, European, African, Asian, etc.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 05:23 AM
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You and the other goose-stepping morons regurgitating your goddamn white power bullshit in this sub are missing the point. MGTOW is any and all 'MEN' going their own way.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 04:45 AM
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Tell that to all the Tradcons who show up here and act like you can't be black, or an immigrant, or a Jew/Muslim and be a MGTOW because of some horseshit conspiracy laden brain damaged mechanism they use to associate everything with 'marxism' or 'degenerates'.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 01:27 AM
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It's true and it's a problem for MGTOW in general. Cuckservative white supremacist christfags don't seem to care their little club is just as anti-MGTOW as feminazis so long as they can use the MGTOW label to promote 'anti-left' everything in favor of their oppressive one-party, one-race, one-religion world order (and some Russian propaganda).
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 10:37 PM
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Depends on which certs you're going for because there are different tracks. There is the most common CCNA routing and switching that should be two tests (ICND1 & 2) or one combined test (CCNAX) and these formal tests for certification I think runs about $300 total these days. If you buy a bunch of training materials and used Cisco gear you could spend a lot more getting trained up. A traditional classroom course could be a lot more expensive but would possibly include waivers for the tests so yo…
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 06:02 PM
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Depends on the person? It's going to cost either way. You'll want fairly recent books and practice tests, and either simulator software or some actual Cisco equipment, to practice entering commands in/learn how the devices work. Courses at a school or training center will usually include some of that.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 03:44 PM
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CCNA certification? If you self study, you should probably plan on 90 days of study and practice testing before taking the formal test(s). Lots of schools, and other private training companies, offer non-credit courses for CCNA and more.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 04:27 PM
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Not just health insurance. Housing and land too (at least in big cities). And more... The richest men and corporations want to either possess or control every cent in the economy. Human beings are a resource to them, just like the raw materials used to make their products. For most people, the majority of the money they'll ever touch in their lives and labor they provide will all go toward profits of a few rich people and corporations. So the systems designed by the rich are intended to maximize…
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 04:18 PM
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Hiring depends a lot on where you live. The degree should make you more qualified than loads of other applicants for all sorts of IT entry level jobs (at a minimum) to get your foot in the door. Professional certifications can bolster your resume too (example: CCNA for network techs). Don't be afraid to send your resume in to a company that wants experienced people in its job ads. Worst case scenario, they don't respond or you get a chance to practice your interview skills. Sometimes companies w…
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 04:17 PM
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Statistically, that degree is going to pay off in the long run. Good work. Big money and maybe less competition in information/network security if that's your preference.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 05:50 AM
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Career is going to be tougher without education. Save some money by going to less expensive state schools or knock out your required courses at a cheaper community college if it transfers a lot of students to a university bachelors program. Finish the degree. 2 is dress advice, in part. At the least, invest in a suit for interviews and some business casual clothes for working. Stay physically fit. Keep the hair (and facial hair) cut regularly and properly groomed. Wear clothes that fit right (no…
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 05:43 AM
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Just wait for the midterm US election buildup. Then the Russian bots and Tradcons will reappear to tell all MGTOW to vote Republican and flood or downvote all other opinions right off the sub.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 05:32 AM
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The people who wrote 'The Bible' had an agenda. The text is NOT history. smh
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 03:19 AM
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I grew up attending Southern Baptist churches. It's a shame to see so many men fooled by 'faith' and Tradcons into willfully volunteering for marriage slavery and divorce rape.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 09:35 PM
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Magical thinking injected into your brain by Tradcons. There is no mythical time of yesteryear when women were perfect wives. The whole Christian marriage system was invented to force men to provide for women and children and be economically productive under the absolute power of an established church rather than a government or king. MGTOW should understand this 'faith' includes propaganda and brainwashing to convince men the best things in life come from being a slave on the marriage plantatio…
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 08:24 PM
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My advice to any 20 year old man: 1) Ultimately, only you are responsible for your own actions. 2) If you look fucked up people assume you must be fucked up. 3) Most people are selfish regardless of gender or relationship. 4) Don't be a provider for anyone else. Require friends and love interests take care of themselves. 5) Don't get married, officially or common-law. 6) Avoid having kids unless you -really- understand you will lose a lot of money, and possibly custody of the children, in the pr…
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 07:12 PM
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It's ok ru-Alex. We in the USA understand that if you don't spend every waking moment of your days and nights posting negative comments about America and praising your terrorist overlord Putin that you will get thrown out of a 4 story window, shot in the street in front of a government building, poisoned, or simply 'disappeared' like your fellow Russian citizen victims of state terrorism.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 08:58 PM
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The USA has plenty of corruption problems but the US President -- even a shitheel like Trump -- isn't murdering his own people to consolidate power like Putin and the other gangsters who hold power in Russia. In this country we get to talk shit about our leaders and vote them out of office. 'In Russia' the terrorist government kills or jails anybody who speaks out and uses fear and murder to make sure everyone stays quiet and 'loyal'.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 04:43 PM
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Just telling it like it is. Why should independents like me ignore conservative stupidity when those Republican assholes fail so horribly every time they're in power? It's like they're so obsessed with putting R's in power they willfully shut off their minds like they're cheering for a high school football team to win the big game. Only their team is literally fucking over generations of Americans and handing power and money to the richest few while surrendering American military and diplomatic …
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 04:39 PM
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Doubtful that Shillary would have simultaneously insulted America's strategic allies in Europe and the Pacific while undermining the entire 20th century of American established institutions like NATO and the UN -- and -- actually appointing an agent of foreign governments to the position of National Security Advisor among other fucking stupid acts. But you can go on living in the land of Russian and right-wing propaganda that has polluted your mind right back into the abject ignorance which refu…
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 12:25 AM
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Trump is incompetent and corrupt and a stooge of foreign governments. The sooner he gets impeached and replaced with a more competent leader (even if it has to be Pence) the better.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 12:03 AM
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The US military has been at war for more than 15 years and during that time successfully killing lots of people all over the world with only its conventional weapons and a small percentage of the conventional power at its disposal.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 12:02 AM
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Don't forget the occupation of Tibet which has experienced human rights abuses by China on a scale comparative with N Korea.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 11:23 PM
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If they were good at dealing with terrorists they'd have already assassinated Putin. Instead, they're governed by terrorists.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 11:22 PM
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You might as well wish for world peace and rainbow shitting unicorns too.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 10:40 PM
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Because other people pay for them to travel while they're young and they don't have to break their backs working for the money to travel. It's not that complicated.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 10:04 PM
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Just don't get sick or divorced.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 06:02 PM
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This is also the result of Tradcon policies that destroyed labor unions and encouraged corporations to 'free market capitalism' their labor force right over to emerging nations where people will work for pennies on the dollar without safety or breaks or age limits (and other 'human' considerations). Unions used to help guarantee pensions that would enable aged boomers to retire earlier too. They killed opportunity for blue collar workers and stagnated white collar jobs, all while enjoying govern…
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 05:57 PM
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If you're dumb enough to get married, keeping separate accounts will not help you. She will accuse you of being controlling and therefore emotionally abusive when you don't give her access to your earnings regardless of whether she has a job of her own or whether you pay all of the monthly bills. When it comes to divorce, the courts don't care about your separate accounts either. She will spend all of her money and then get half (or more) of whatever you have left.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 04:03 PM
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Are the migrant men GTOW?
/r/MGTOW16/03/17 05:31 PM
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Don't tell that to the Tradcons who unilaterally decided we all have to become Trump dick-sucks who espouse Cuckservative Christian values and only vote Republican.
/r/MGTOW16/03/17 03:23 PM
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You seem to have no idea how much time and money state and federal legislatures waste on attempting to ban abortion. All MGTOW should be pro-abortion. The more Tradcons force women to keep unwanted kids, the more men are forced into wage slavery to help pay for those kids and the greater the burden on the state. Don't just let women price themselves out. Let them effectively sterilize themselves until they age out too.
/r/MGTOW16/03/17 01:22 PM
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Cuckservatives always want to screw this up for men. More unwanted pregnancies means greater burden on the state and more men forced into wage slavery to pay for children they didn't want in the first place. MGTOW should be pro-abortion. Always.
/r/MGTOW15/03/17 09:41 PM
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The only way to win the game is to not play. Trust me when I say that Tradcons in Texas are not doing this to reign in hypergamy/divorce rape. Not only will divorces continue at high rates but more men will get jailed after losing 'fault' based divorces when they can't keep up with the child support. Glad I dodged that bullet because jail is how Texas deals with men who fail to pay.
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 12:12 AM
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So it makes it more difficult for men to go their own way. Costs men more in the long run. AND women will force the court to examine their soon to be ex husbands for all sorts of accusations. Make every divorce a battle and men still stand to lose more. The government and lawyers just get to take a bigger piece of the action.
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 11:55 PM
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I disagree. No fault meant it cost me a lot less money to ditch my cheating ex-wife. If fault had to be declared and proven it would have turned into a lengthy fight in court and I would have had to pay for more out of pocket to lawyers, multiple rents because you fucking know the court would have ordered me to cover her living expenses too (because it's also her money until the divorce is final) -- and then wait longer -- just to get the noose off of my neck while she casually fucks some other …
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 11:28 PM
2

More tradcon bullshit. MGTOW is supposed to be about 'men'. Not just white men in the USA. Men want to escape war and persecution. Men want opportunity to work and provide for themselves. Therefore, men immigrate. For a sub that's supposed to be about the success of men, /r/MGTOW fails on every level. Please rename this sub from MGTOW to Tradcon-brainwash.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 06:07 PM
1

Didn't you hear? Tradcons decide what MGTOW must believe and who MGTOW must vote for. Welcome to the new cuckservative slave states of America.
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 12:16 AM
21

It's bad enough that Tradcons try to claim MGTOW exclusively. Now that they've successfully waged a 'screw the non-Republicans' campaign they've moved on to a 'screw the non-Christians' campaign. Who knows fellow MGTOW? By the time they're done you might all be marching down to a local church and volunteering for a Traditional Cuckservative life of slavery and ignorance.
/r/MGTOW11/01/17 06:50 PM
17

You're not wrong. (USA) My ex-wife wanted to start a pet therapist business because of her experience working part time in a pet store when she was in college (University of Phoenix online diploma mill).
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 02:22 PM
2

MGTOW should absolutely support legal abortion. It's one sure way to avoid becoming a court-ordered slave to make child support payments.
/r/MGTOW21/12/16 02:21 AM
7

Biocunt, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 03:14 PM
3

This is one of those posts that makes no goddamn sense in a MGTOW sub. Men being summarily executed in the street by police, because they're assumed to be violent, partly because of race, partly because of gender, is a real problem in the US. Similarly, men are assumed to be violent in domestic complaints, and are treated harshly by police and the courts, partly because of gender.
/r/MGTOW11/12/16 12:24 AM
2

You're right. Time to invest.
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 01:55 AM
1

AWALT: 50s husbands were just as much cucks then as husbands are today. That's where the old jokes about the 'milkman' or traveling salesman come from. Plenty of WWII GIs got dear John letters. Your ideal of a time when women treated men like kings is a fantasy. Wives were housewives but they still monkey branched, cheated, and made men's lives miserable in general.
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 01:37 AM
3

If insurance will cover it or the Tradcon pharmacist will sell it.
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 01:33 AM
1

Eat shit you goddamn moron. Your decision to marry that dumb cunt isn't my fucking problem. Too bad you didn't GYOW instead of volunteering for slavery and getting divorce raped.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 08:42 PM
1

Just give us 10 seconds from associating everything NOT related to shunning women with feminism. Examples: Environmental issues are not feminism. Taxes are not feminism. Foreign policy issues are not feminism. Unions are not feminism. Capitalism/socialism not the same thing as feminism. Get the fucking picture? Go ahead and ban everybody who isn't sucking Trump's dick. Tadcon bullshit does not square with MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 06:48 PM
3

I think the mods should just finally admit this sub is a tradcon sham that has everything to do with right wing political stooges using reddit (and social media in general) for propaganda -- nothing really to do with 'men' going their own way.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 01:41 AM
6

Beta Bux will always provide.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 04:10 AM
3

Protestant preachers get married and have kids all the time. Tradcons cut funding for government services -- including services that benefit kids. Labor unions exist because working men fought against companies that used people like slave labor with little regard for safety or life or paying enough in wages for someone to support themselves, much less a family. Plenty of men don't want to die on a battlefield so the rich and powerful can become more rich and powerful. Liberal social policies hav…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 11:27 PM
8

Wrong. The problem is AWALT. There is no mythical time of yesteryear before social programs when women weren't. It's just all out in the open now. Men actually need temporary assistance like unemployment from time to time, among other things, and everybody needs access to healthcare. Labor unions help to keep jobs secure and well paid for the work with retirement benefits and more than would not otherwise be available to working men as the USA's own history has shown.
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 11:23 PM
1

(apologies) I misread your commentary as more of a typical insult then. Having an independent/liberal minded view of US politics in general (though not on all issues) results in being constantly attacked on any forum and therefore offense is constantly expected.
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 07:47 PM
2

You're wasting your time. Many of the right-wing zombies who frequent this sub (or from the USA in general) don't actually understand the differences between their ideological idiocy and systems of government or economics. I'll sum it up for you, they believe: Liberals are actually communist traitors (referring to the ghost of old Red communist strategic opponents of the USA, now they call it terrorist sympathizers) who want socialism and hate capitalism (still referring to old Red communists) a…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 06:47 PM
1

If you're going to fall into that logical fallacy trap then I guess that means 'liberals' are correct to believe MGTOW are all actually just alt-right white nationalists as well as woman-haters and potential rapists? By the way, /u/project_mayhem_ is just another Trump dick-suck. Derp Derp Derp
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 06:21 PM
2

Try this: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/the-scientific-7-minute-workout/
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 06:17 PM
1

You don't really need 'extreme' diets or workouts to get healthier. Eat. Mostly plants. Not too much. Enjoy meat and treats for flavor in small portions. Don't overdo added salt and sugar. Stay hydrated. Since someone else asked, the difference between good and bad sugar is in the product: Foods that naturally include higher amounts of sugar, like apples or carrots, are better digested and don't shock your body's insulin production thanks to plant fiber -- unlike a glazed, coated in refined suga…
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 05:57 PM
2

Surprise, voting for Tradcon moron candidates changes nothing for MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 03:13 PM
2

+1 right on.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 11:03 PM
1

Am I supposed to drop some copypasta from /b/ to respond to this nonsense? Or are you really just not accustomed to people actually telling you what they think?
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 07:19 PM
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Exactly. The Tradcons attempt to absorb MGTOW despite the fact that cuckservatism attempts to condemn all men to the marriage plantation for religious hegemony and condemn all men to military service for political hegemony. Meanwhile, the libs reject MGTOW as right-wing anti-woman patriarchy despite supposedly approving of 'turn on, tune in and drop out' rejection of social norms. Though MGTOW may have different reasons for 'dropping out' than feminists would prefer.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 07:09 PM
1

More like, when Tradcons continue to try and take sole ownership of MGTOW, to the point of repeatedly telling us who we should vote for, regardless of historical events or policy failures, some of us are going to tell them to fuck off.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 06:49 PM
2

I agree. Marriage should be a symbolic or purely religious act. The state should not be involved, the legal aspects and consequences of marriage should not exist, and healthy adults should be expected to fend for themselves with their own personally attained resources.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 05:23 PM
1

Eat shit.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 05:16 PM
1

Just look for the vote for Drumpf threads that continue to pollute /r/MGTOW and then look for any vote for Shillary threads. You'll find my posts are reactional -- not promotional.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 05:16 PM
1

The most prevalent form of legal fraud in the USA is the political system of government. Every politician lies, over promises, and fails to deliver. Then there is almost every other company in the entire free market economy making promises about what their products can do, and how much their services will cost, that fail to meet expectations, and rack up hidden fees. Paternity fraud isn't even close, but it's fucking devastating when it happens.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 05:05 PM
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Because the peace movement and women's rights became left-wing causes in the late 20th century while Tradcons claimed everything that wasn't right-wing was anti-American. Therefore, because MGTOW recognize feminism as a destructive force in the 21st century, Tradcons claim to own MGTOW as part of a right-wing nationalist movement, and libs classify MGTOW as a right-wing hate group, regardless of what MGTOW have to say about it.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 01:51 PM
16

Aahahah... AWALT. Even when they're molesting teenage boys.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 02:41 AM
3

You might think that was true if not for the slew of Tradcon posts in /r/MGTOW declaring everybody has to vote for a cuckservative incompetent asshole because 'feminists/liberals/woman candidate'.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 02:19 AM
1

Yes, Starr leaned about Lewinsky as a result of the Jones suit, but as a product of digging into all sorts of random allegations on a massive politically motivated fishing expedition that started with real estate dealings (Whitewater). At one point Clinton even reasoned the court's definition of sexual relations didn't include oral sex (edit: hilarious), but who gives a shit. Starr ran with the only result he could actually produce convincing evidence for. 228 to 206 - House of Rep approved 1st …
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 07:18 AM
1

(insults for insults) Yes, of course. The cucks impeached Clinton over perjury -- not because they couldn't find anything to prosecute regarding the alleged crimes they originally sought evidence on. Just as men are sometimes convicted of rape -- not because a woman changes her mind about consent after the fact out of shame, or to inflict revenge, or for any ulterior motive. The courts have spoken and thus it is so. (Edit: Or maybe it's just 'conflating'...)
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 04:50 AM
0

You're entitled to your opinion but the reality of politics doesn't make the cuckservatives better for MGTOW than the libs as OP suggests. How fucking stupid do you (referring to your 'no it was really perjury' statement of willful ignorance) have to be to believe abuse of legislative power in an attempt to orchestrate the downfall of political opponents is a legitimate 'investigation' in the first place?
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 03:58 AM
0

Like I said, impeached over an adulterous blowjob. Ken Starr was set out on a witch hunt to dig up big dirt about real estate dealings, spent millions of tax dollars, and all he could get was a lie about an intern riding the top of the CC. The cuckservatives went full-tilt into shaming Clinton over the sex scandal while making holier-than-thou claims of moral Christian superiority.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 03:43 AM
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Examples: http://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-today/ http://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 02:38 AM
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Yep. Someone needs to ask The Innocence Project about wrongful convictions of black men based on accusations of white women and insufficient physical evidence and/or lacking competent legal defense representation.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 02:34 AM
0

Uh do any of the Tradcons trying to take over MGTOW remember the 90s when conservatives shamed Bill Clinton to the point of spending millions of taxpayer dollars to impeach a man for getting an adulterous blowjob? Please GTFO and take the political bullshit with you. In the USA conservatives want to enslave men on the marriage plantation with massive penalties for deviating from their fanatical religious social structure.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 12:36 AM
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When my ex admitted she had an affair and tried to get me to take her back after we'd been separated for a few months, I told her I forgave her. We'd been together for a lot of years and the situation was fucked up partly because of my actions so I had already accepted some blame (too much in fact) for the deterioration of the marriage -- after months of therapy and working to try and repair the relationship. Turns out I was the only one making an effort to fix it. Her bullshit continued. Though…
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 01:53 PM
9

https://youtu.be/lff9uWxoNus?t=2m45s A woman walks in the room, tells you that she's pregnant. You look her dead in the eye... And you say, "So, what you gonna do?"
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 01:38 PM
1

There is no 'wall' for men. Why? Because men are always expected to support themselves regardless of age, illness, injury, or other limitations. Men don't rely on looks or smv to gain basic requirements of independent living. For men, it's work or die. For women, it's attract working men and use them for resources or die. Yes, now women can be more like men but it's optional until they hit the wall. Once they become sexually irrelevant, they're forced to support themselves unless they've managed…
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 05:53 AM
3

No matter how much this article seems to jive with opinions here, it doesn't change the reality of married life and committed LTR for men: the risks and consequences far outweigh the potential rewards. The author has hit the wall and been married three times so her opinion is skewed through her lack of options. If she was still sexually relevant she would continue bed hopping and lining up new primary and backup alimony/child support revenue streams. Now she doesn't have those options so she emb…
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 07:36 PM
1

That makes more sense. I just like to remind everyone that MGTOW isn't about promoting every right-wing talking point or condemning every left-wing talking point (ie: OP implies a racial bias against liberals instead of a irresponsible women/abortion thing...) It's good to remind fellow men about the risks involved with women, including unintended pregnancy and STDs. Whether they choose to be reckless with their lives is up to them. But maybe they just don't hear the warnings from MGTOW until it…
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 04:01 PM
2

Uh huh. MGTOW is not owned by Tradcons or the alt-right. So that's just like, your opinion, man.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 01:24 PM
2

I wrote 'should'. I didn't write 'you have to'. You believe whatever you want to believe. But if you want to avoid marriage enslavement and being forced to pay child support to a woman, legal abortion can only help.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 01:23 PM
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Depends. Anxiety disorders are a legit mental illness. Doesn't mean everybody who claims to have it on reddit actually does and there are varying degrees of severity. Not being medical, I don't know the causes (like fucked up childhood or genetic predisposition or whatever). But that shit is real for some people.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 01:17 PM
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Makes me wonder if anybody remembers the good old 90s when Tradcons spent millions in tax payer dollars to impeach a President over an adulterous blowjob. They used to make lots of holier than thou declarations about Christian values and family values when attacking a political opponent over his various affairs. Guess they finally gave up on that shit.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 06:21 AM
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Don't look now, Tradcons are still trying to take over MGTOW. MGTOW should encourage women to get abortions more often and vote for politicians that enable women to get legal abortions. It's one sure way to avoid paying child support and enslavement on the marriage plantation.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 05:31 AM
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This is another example of what happens when the tables are turned on women and they get the equality they've been demanding through feminism. The woman becomes the abusive breadwinner (in a sense) in a toxic marriage with her husband the depressed shitty homemaker who is bad with money. So, gender reverse this article. Rewrite it according to traditional gender roles. How would feminists respond to a husband constantly telling his epileptic, ADHD mother of two that she's pathetic while condemni…
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 04:03 PM
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They're hypocritically standing by on the sideline talking among each other about how they empathize with guys who are being treated unfairly while saying absolutely nothing in the defense of those men because 'men' are supposed to be the oppressor (ie: collateral damage for the cause of 'equality').
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 03:41 PM
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By the time women get caught (or admit to) cheating they've already mentally worked out a system of excuses and potentially consulted at least one confidant who supports the 'reasons' for the cheating if not the act itself. So, in their minds, it's not 'wrong', it's 'justified'.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 01:23 PM
3

It depends on what her options are. Generally, she'll get jealous of the job because it represents an aspect of her man's life that she can't fully control. So she'll try to establish that control through emotional abuse (you're not doing enough/you work too much) and economic abuse (it's my money too/overspending). She will eventually establish more control (if she has options) and display that all too familiar hypergamous nature by cheating (maybe even with her man's coworkers).
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 12:57 PM
1

This guy is definitely a cuckservative Trad Con.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 12:30 PM
15

Online dating sites/apps are all scam operations designed to exploit gambling tendencies by implying paid-for features will improve the odds of success. You're swiping through a directory of bots/fakes and hypergamous cunts the way gamblers pull the level on a slot machine.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 12:27 PM
0

Let me know when a 3rd option gets their shit together or Republicans nominate someone who isn't an incompetent asshole. Tradcons = simps
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 12:09 AM
4

Sadly, Trad Cons are trying to take over /r/MGTOW to promote their new Cuckservative hero in time for the election.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 12:06 AM
1

Did I flood the MGTOW sub with 'vote for shillary' posts? NO! Since when did /r/MGTOW become a propaganda tool for Trad Cons?
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 11:23 PM
1

Mods, cuckservatives like this asshole are trying to turn the MGTOW sub into another Drumpf worship circle jerk. When the fuck did MGTOW become nothing but a propaganda wing of Trad Cons?
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 11:20 PM
1

Bullshit. This sub isn't devoted to your cuckservative Drumpf worship.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 11:18 PM
2

A MGTOW can vote for whoever the fuck he wants to.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 10:58 PM
0

Recognizing Drumpf (and his blind cuckservative followers) as a shitbag is not a 'credibility' issue -- it's an accurate observation. :-)
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 10:57 PM
2

I'm not neutral. I think Drumpf is a shitbag. That doesn't make me a 'leftist', in my opinion, but if it does in your opinion, how the fuck would that matter in terms of GMOW? Or can you not separate the two things like the assholes who continue to flood the MGTOW sub as if this is supposed to be another campaign stop on their road to ultimate election failure? I like the way you criticize using a dumb nickname for Drumpf and follow it up with a dumb nickname, Hitlery, in your condescending Cuck…
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 09:53 PM
2

Wrong. For fucks sake. Paranoid much?
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 09:47 PM
2

You'd be fucking wrong.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 08:07 PM
1

I don't need to stamp that bloated fucktard's surname on every post but I see your point.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 06:36 PM
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Alt-right doesn't own MGTOW. MGTOW is NOT a political recruitment tool.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 05:47 PM
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I'm done wasting my time on guys who don't give af about me or my feelings So, she's become too old or too fat to keep the interest of tall wealthy bachelors... The main reason I went for these guys is because they were fun, very good looking and very confident. So, she got drilled out and used up by Chads and now wants somebody new to break out a wallet, ignore her polluted womb, and make her feel secure. will I have to sacrifice the things I find attractive in a man to find a decent one? But s…
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 02:26 PM
3

Maybe like those voters who didn't appreciate Obama's old line about 'clinging to their guns and religion?' Doesn't matter why they're offended. It's politics after all...
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 06:11 AM
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Pretty sure the majority of voters don't love Drumpf. But we'll know for sure soon enough. When it's over, we'll get to read a ton of 'the vote was rigged' posts in the MGTOW sub by those who actually do love that orange turd...
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 06:05 AM
5

Kek Are all Drumpf supporters dumb enough to think he can/should win an election by offending the majority of voters?
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 05:48 AM
1

Yeah... imagine if they could just go on and on about 'family values' or 'Christian values' which nobody ever really considers as qualifications for public office... I mean, seriously, don't all of those 'values' include repeatedly making dumb as shit statements that offend large percentages of the electorate? What is this, a popularity contest or an election? :-P
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 05:19 AM
5

Have you? Meme magic and wishing voters were only white male conservatives isn't going to save Drumpf from the ash heap of history.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 05:05 AM
1

Focus only on your job, like a robot. No fraternizing with coworkers. No expression of personal opinion. That includes everything from job performance to religion and politics. Anything you say can be used against you. Just pull the lever, build the widgets, and collect your paycheck. Edit: And document everything possible to cover your ass.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 03:01 AM
-3

Uh huh. I'm sure all of the American men of Mexican heritage are voting for Drumpf...
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 02:33 AM
0

+1
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 06:08 PM
0

Can't really call it support when there is no viable third option. When the choice is between an incompetent fascist party and a competent socialist party the competent socialists win my vote. The USA is a police state managed like an oligarchy regardless of which party is in charge anyway.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 06:07 PM
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Alt-right doesn't own MGTOW either. Where does this shit idea come from that MGTOW have to even vote much less choose one particular political party for all things?
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 06:20 AM
5

Hyperbolic bullshit. Clinton is a status quo politician. Expect more taxes and war as usual, not much else. The congress makes the laws, not the POTUS.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 05:55 AM
1

Zero fucks given about 'why' anyone thinks their selected politician should or shouldn't be elected. When 'vote for Pedro' threads flood the MGTOW sub it's just fucking annoying.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 05:52 AM
2

There are many factors that contribute to this average increase in the age of fathers. Collective 'immaturity' is not one of those factors. Whether someone is considered 'mature' is a subjective opinion, not a factual dataset. If they're wise (a sign of maturity), men will completely avoid having children to prevent a woman from destroying their financial health, present and future assets, investments, savings, earning power, etc.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 04:58 PM
3

This is completely ridiculous but this is politics in the USA. Trump is a shit candidate for public office for so many legitimate reasons. A guy talking like a guy, about women, is not one of them. But in US politics, it's not about facts, policy, qualifications or experience, or historical significance anymore. We've become so collectively stupid we elect based on nonstop hyperbolic shitposting, moronic gaffs, propaganda and conspiracy theories.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 04:09 AM
3

The return to 'harems' is not really a new trend. The rich and powerful have always enjoyed greater access to luxuries. It's just kept hidden when social constraints are more extreme. Greater wealth in general and relaxed social constraints in modern western societies means this sort of behavior is more openly displayed. Spot on recognizing this is dressed it up in progressive rhetoric. It's one more reason men should avoid marriage and long term relationships with women -- perhaps all relations…
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 10:32 PM
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Partly true. If it's just sex, no marriage (including common law), no cohabitation, no paying the female's rent or supporting her kids, then the risks are somewhat reduced. However... One of the woman's many fuck buddies or cucks could go postal and seek revenge on you. The possibility of getting STDs is increased. Unintended pregnancy (except for the case of vasectomy) could occur. Accusations of being the father regardless of contraceptives or vasectomy... Accusations of abuse or rape... Relat…
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 10:20 PM
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The real problem here is these idiots still think they're gaining something from their poly marriages/relationships. What they're doing is actively destroying their own incomes and future financial security for no gains. When the poly wives decide to ditch the cucks for what they consider better options (because they have the options until they hit the wall) these fools will be left with nothing but the ridicule of their peers, former wives, and eventually children (the mother will get custody).…
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 09:42 PM
5

No fucks are given. Let everyone rage against MGTOW (though I sincerely doubt they care enough to really do this). It doesn't affect me either way. I will continue to enjoy my wealth. My earning potential will not be stunted by supporting women or children. My assets and retirement savings will remain secure.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 04:44 PM
1

If a man is smart, he won't bring anything to the table for any woman. Let women fend for themselves.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 04:40 PM
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This is exactly why men should never put a ring on it. 21 years of hard labor and now stands to lose everything just a few years from retirement. Don't be like this sad sob. Protect yourself, your earning potential, and your assets. Avoid marriage (including common law marriage) for the sake of your own future.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 06:48 PM
2

Call it whatever you want. Then think about how it would sound to a jury of females if you had to defend yourself in court from rape charges after a night of drinking and 'consensual' sex.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 01:18 PM
11

There are several problems here: Nothing wrong with having preferences but spelling those prefs out on a dating site profile or in messages will 'poison the well' as this article seems to show. Women express these sorts of preferences and don't consider it 'creepy' or 'shitty' to only accept messages from tall men with good paying jobs and 'active lifestyles', including age limits. This is most important -- all online dating sites are a scam designed to exploit gambling tendencies by implying yo…
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 01:14 PM
2

They would just blame the patriarchy for denying them rights because they consider all men to be rapists. Then they'd argue it's only men, not women, who have drinking problems.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 11:48 PM
5

Abortion should remain legal and should be more accessible to women. Also, men should get the same choices as women to 'opt out' of being a parent and not forced by the state to raise a baby whether it's because they're irresponsible, or not ready, or forced into the situation (she stopped taking the pill or lied about it, etc). If society can recognize that a woman has the right to choose to not be a parent after pregnancy then a man should get the same option. Also, all newborns should be give…
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 11:44 PM
2

Fuck'em. No questions. No concerns. No drama.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 11:37 PM
9

You know how this works. Only men will be held legally responsible for sex under the influence.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 01:10 AM
1

Drink or fuck. Never both in the same night. Even if Cali left this out of new laws, the accusations would still land you in court and maybe in jail.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 01:05 AM
4

AWALT. Your sisters just weren't exposed to men they considered better options. I bet they both have male 'friends' they consider backups.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 12:57 AM
1

“You cannot have a successful, happy life when you check out. I mean, that's what they're doing is checking out.” What these dumbasses don't consider is that we're not "checking out". It's possible to enjoy life without marriage or kids. In fact, in a capitalist meritocracy , it's easier to enjoy life when you don't have to worry about losing 10 years or more of financial gains because of divorce. Not to mention child support, alimony, division of retirement savings, and more. Also, 'lumpy' (Han…
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 12:48 AM
1

In the context of this fictional television series, it's not 'robot sex' that's dark. Rather, it's acting out fantasies of raping, terrorizing, and murdering other humans in the absence of consequences that's dark. The robots represent humans, and part of the story, of course, is the possibility of an artificial intelligence, TLDR, what if the bots could feel emotions and people raped and killed them anyway?
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 03:10 AM
2

Zero fucks given.
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 03:01 AM
3

It makes sense that a fictional story which explores the darker impulses of humanity would include --the darker impulses of humanity--. Does society really have to revert television, including subscription channels, to the old heavily censored days of 'Brady Bunch', 'Andy Griffith', and 'Leave it to Beaver' because sex and violence are too much for the poor widdle minds of millennials?
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 03:10 PM
9

Another scam artist for fools who don't know the dating scene itself is a scam. This is almost as bad as online dating services which are all designed to exploit gambling tendencies by promising better results for paying for added features and access.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 03:06 PM
2

I'm not making a mistake. Hyperbolic rhetoric about the POTUS is nothing new and never accurate. Example: Obama did not destroy America. Your Clinton comment about 'once she gets the key to the castle' is no different than the 'don't give him the keys to the nuclear missiles' ranting about Trump.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 01:31 PM
12

Women keep friends of the opposite sex in order to secure support and benefits they aren't getting from their romantic interests OR as an alternate 'backup' to their romantic interests.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 05:52 PM
3

Isn't this a MGTOW sub? You're giving the benefit of the doubt to women which is ignorant and stupid if you've been reading posts here for any length of time. You're 'dating' which puts you at risk. That's your choice, to take on that risk. But the potential consequences include unintended pregnancy, accused of being the father of some other guy's kid, physical assault by women or other men on their behalf against you, false accusations of wrongdoing that can ruin your reputation and finances, t…
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 04:19 PM
4

Agreed. "Feel bad for moms because natural functions of the human body, and preventing a child from dying until it's old enough to fend for itself, is SO much more difficult than a lifetime of back breaking labor in a field, coal mine, battlefield, or construction site." Bullshit.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 04:13 PM
2

Why do women seem to think... Stop there. Zero fucks given.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 04:06 PM
3

Clinton will merely continue the status quo (more war and taxes as usual). At the most, females can expect to see more rules regarding federal contractors and sexual harassment or pay. Maybe a new law for paid family leave. The Congress makes the laws. Not the POTUS.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 04:05 PM
6

If you're a 'couple', legally married or subject to rules regarding common law marriage, then the courts will still fuck you over. It's not enough to avoid marriage. If you allow a women to become dependent on you for any length of time, when she's done using you for the money, the courts will help her take more, including the house. Don't put a ring on it. Don't move in with it. Don't pay its rent.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 04:02 PM
1

Pushing back suggests activism. Going your own way is a form of protest, but it's not 'activism' as the acronym suggests refusing to participate in a society that demonizes and punishes men rather than working to change that society. Risk avoidance, as opposed to taking on more risk as an 'activist' which becomes a target for the same status quo that crushes men in order to prop up women in the interests of the state.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 03:55 PM
3

MGTOW is more diverse than the article suggests, particularly in terms of political views (in my opinion). For example, I'm a war veteran, and am proud of my time in service. I take voting seriously, a duty as a citizen of my country, not as an American male stereotype. In fact, I take a somewhat military view of society since then, including the roles of women. Let them be responsible for themselves, participate equally in the economy, the government, and the military (including the draft). The…
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 03:51 PM
1

No fucks are given. That is all.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 05:27 PM
12

It's to be expected. No fucks are given. There is an awful lot of smack talk on this sub. It's only natural for editorial writers to make some sort of poorly researched response. Their readers don't give a shit either. ;-) Please, write about all sorts of MGTOW or 'meninist' bullshit as it pleases the click-bait feminazi audience. I'll continue to enjoy my life and wealth without the dramatic disruptive needy vindictive influence of women. My retirement savings and assets will remain secure. My …
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 03:47 PM
22

Part of the problem with this article is its attempt to characterize everyone who embraces the concept of 'going his own way' as people who merely regurgitate dumb acronyms while blaming women for all social ills. This is short sighted and factually incorrect though I can see how someone would get that impression from /r/MGTOW considering just how many posts are dedicated to rage against women and modern interpretations of 'PC' culture. Relationships with women lead men to financial ruin, suicid…
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 01:40 PM
1

I don't think anyone should object to polyamory. Poly supposedly frees people from moral obligations to dedicated relationships. Instead object to legally binding marriage and the financial consequences of divorce. Dump the legal restraints and free men. Then women can go ahead and fuck around for as long as they can afford it and men can protect themselves or kick bitches to the curb for hypergamous bullshit. This is how we get to a 'fend for yourself' society.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 12:25 AM
2

This article is a pile of goddamn nonsense. The 'she will love me forever' mentality is belief in a fariytale. She's outpouring love to get the marriage secured. The second she wants something the marriage doesn't offer, or gets bored, or realizes her husband doesn't measure up to other 'options', she'll declare her man is a narcissistic controlling abuser and divorce him. She'll take whatever resources are left after draining his finances for years and run off to continue fucking the guy she's …
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 05:58 PM
11

This article touches on some good points but there is still that tendency to consider it negative or disastrous that men are giving up on -- and actively avoiding -- the traditional role of provider and protector. What's disastrous is the breakdown of the family unit where men gain nothing other than the potential to pass along their DNA. There is nothing wrong with men providing only for themselves and leaving others (especially women) to do the same. No healthy adult should ever remain depende…
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 06:30 PM
1

She only feels bad about it because she hit the wall and can't get other 'quality' men to throw themselves at her spread open legs anymore. It has nothing to do with the ex, in reality she couldn't care less about him. She's just fixated on his life because other men are no longer fixated on her.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 03:47 PM
4

Just more fem-rant idiocy in the form of an op-ed for the internet to digest I suppose. but what ever happened to romantic gestures and bold moves? What ever happened to a guy going after a girl until she agreed to give him a chance? You idiots either turned everybody down or labeled them all collectively as creepers or rapists for showing too much interest. Whatever happened to grand gestures? When did men stop caring about love and start caring so much about their egos? ...don’t they understan…
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 01:53 PM
1

If you're dumb enough to believe that Trump is speaking for you, I've got some great opportunities you should know about, on behalf of a Nigerian prince who is willing to offer you a big reward...
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 09:55 PM
3

Rights dependent on supporting an authoritarian government (ie: the state is more important than the rights of the governed) is the very basis of fascism...
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 09:52 PM
6

The only way to win is to not play the game.. OKC, like all dating websites, is a scam designed to take advantage of gambling tendencies so guys feel like spending a little money will give them an advantage. Monthly subscription to get access to features. Pay more to show up at the top of the inbox. Pay more to boost your profile visibility. Delete your OKC account and go live in the real world.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 01:00 PM
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For women, the difference between 'raising your voice' and 'verbal abuse' is their warped opinion. But when she wants full custody of the kids, accusing the man of abuse is an effective way to sway opinions with no proof of wrongdoing. Surely the lawyers encouraged it.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 12:52 PM
1

Ultimately he will lose his fortune (or at least a significant piece of it) because he was stupid enough to get married in the first place.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 12:36 PM
3

AWALT. If only every man understood that every woman they think is so special or innocent or decent is just as willing and capable of fucking 25 frat-bros at a party as the slut featured in this article... What are the chances she was already pregnant prior to the gangbang?
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 04:18 AM
5

First, stop ruminating about the next 60 years in your 20s. If you're the social type, you get involved in some local meetups. Car clubs, sports, outdoor activities, etc groups. Whatever you're into, find others who enjoy the same things. Otherwise, if you don't need that social 'support' just do what you enjoy, when you want to do it. Stay active. Stay employed. Enjoy your wealth. Build savings. Get insurance. When you're married you're still on your own but you don't know it. Cheating cunts wh…
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 04:02 AM
1

Once again, in this scenario, unattached men can avoid drama and consequences. When they are not financially or legally bound by something like marriage, men can simply walk away from any 'open marriage' coupled women without giving up half of their assets and wealth.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 06:22 PM
1

When women are about to screw over their husbands they trash their spouse to any 'friend' who will listen for exactly that purpose anyway. If men aren't legally and financially bound to women then men can avoid much of the drama and consequences.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 01:38 PM
1

It would make for an interesting court fight. Stock up on popcorn.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 01:35 PM
1

The 'independent' women will have to support themselves and each other. Let them fend for themselves. If women marry each other, unattached men won't be legally required to provide support.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 01:34 PM
1

Better to let women fuck each other over and spare men from the drama and consequences.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 01:32 PM
1

And men are spared from the whole mess in a society that doesn't expect or require men to provide for, protect, or sacrifice for women.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 01:30 PM
8

MGTOW is not a solution for your lack of happiness or satisfaction with your social life. MGTOW is merely a successful strategy for avoiding the legal, financial, and health risks and consequences of relationships with women.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 04:58 AM
5

I can imagine it. I think it's a great solution for this modern society. Women can be 'free' of need of any man's resources -- they can fend for themselves or rely entirely on other women -- and men can be free from being forced to support women and children.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 04:53 AM
1

No doubt.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 04:50 AM
1

Not if they're hetero or bi and it's a marriage of convenience.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 04:49 AM
3

Most important lesson to learn as a man: You are responsible for your actions alone and you're not obligated to make major life decisions or sacrifices according to the expectations of your parents or anyone else. It's your life.
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 03:05 AM
2

The guy who “doesn’t know how he feels” If you were a better woman, he would know... The guy who doesn’t want to use “protection” This is legitimate. Too many STIs out there and 'accidental' pregnancy to consider. The guy who’s always broke Imagine a world where men rejected women outright because of their failure to earn enough money to support themselves and splurge on expensive dates and gifts... The guy who tricks you into believing he cares about you – right before you find out about his “o…
/r/MGTOW17/09/16 02:54 PM
4

In the moment it's entertaining. Brain chemistry plays a role with oxytocin that makes you feel good, and the ego gets a boost. As the night goes on and the flirting continues (and you just KNOW the married ones will fuck you) sexual tunnel vision kicks in.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 12:48 PM
1

Trump is an incompetent asshole befitting the downfall of the Republican party that once had the privilege of being represented by a hero like John McCain. However, you could see the contrast in McCain's campaign when he selected the dumbest slut in the USA to be his running mate. Trump and Palin should be on the same ticket, they deserve each other. Clinton, on the other hand, is far more experienced and will simply continue the status quo (ie: war and taxes as usual). I'm not going to use my i…
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 12:40 PM
0

10 years later another pua scumbag wants to continue selling books.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 12:33 PM
2

When the women are single or married?
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 12:28 PM
5

No surprises here. Entitled rich bitch expects the normals on the subway (especially men) to make her more comfortable at their expense. Don't like walking and standing while pregnant as fuck? Pay someone for the service of personal transportation or STFU.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 10:35 PM
2

Simple advice: If you look fucked up, people assume you must be fucked up. So when the guy in the suit who looks like he regularly hits the gym gets the job and you don't, it might be because you're busting buttons off of your shirt at the waist... Also, exercise improves physical and mental health. Staying in shape can help you out in confrontations (whether you have to run or fight). Edit: Not to mention being less prone to injury when performing physical labor (on the job or whatever). But if…
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 03:04 PM
1

A burka is an example of a rigid social structure intended to dehumanize and enslave. MGTOW is escape from a social structure intended to dehumanize (reducing men to disposable sources of revenue) and enslave (supporting women, marriage, etc).
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 12:52 PM
9

No fucks are given. Let everybody rage against MGTOW (if they care enough to do so in the first place, which I sincerely doubt). It doesn't matter what bitches in general, or random op-ed authors, or douche-bros, or pua scumbags think or say. Their opinions are completely irrelevant. MGTOW is a risk avoidance strategy that works.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 05:10 AM
1

Here's what will happen. 1) The wife will (if she hasn't already) line up a backup guy, or decide she's fallen for some random Chad who told her what she wants to hear to get her into bed. 2) The wife will accuse the husband of being controlling because he won't give her unlimited access to his accounts, her name on the car and house and other assets. 3) The wife will walk out on the husband and make him pay for her new apartment, furnishings, maybe another car, etc with the threat of divorce if…
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 06:47 PM
4

Trump is an incompetent coward piece of shit with no honor. One in a long line of conservative politicians who are strategic morons. I'm not going to promote that level of incompetence with my 'independent' vote. If the Repubs had selected someone like Colin Powell as their candidate it would be a different story.
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 02:07 PM
1

Pro Tip: Don't talk to anyone about it other than your personal lawyer.
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 01:56 AM
5

I was worried (at first) I'd have to pay spousal support despite the fact that my ex-wife had a full time job that paid shit wages ---BY CHOICE--- and could have gotten better paying work to help support herself. Thankfully, considering the relatively short duration of the marriage (5 years total, final year separated), and that 'no fault' divorce was a more palatable option than fighting it out in court over actual faults (like her affair), I was confident she couldn't have gotten an award for …
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 07:05 PM
12

Fake.
/r/MGTOW12/09/16 07:31 PM
1

Laws are currently design to place the burden of funding society solely on men. It's relatively recent that women participate fully in the economy, so the laws need to be modified accordingly.
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 01:57 PM
11

I'm an Iraq war veteran. I didn't have any LTR and wasn't married when I was in. Partly because I was active duty during war time and too f'ing busy to go looking for dates and partly because I didn't want any attachments if I got blown to shit downrange. I can assure every reader that the US military is simply a snapshot of our society. These are citizen soldiers, male and female. Some are made for military service. Some should have never volunteered. Most are just regular people who are doing …
/r/MGTOW09/09/16 06:54 PM
20

Yep. It's totally virtue signaling. Put that anti-feminist in a beta marriage and then introduce her to chad and it won't be long before the AWALT behavior becomes obvious.
/r/MGTOW09/09/16 02:14 PM
19

I respectfully disagree. 1) Abolition of marriage as a legally binding contract. Marriage becomes an event of religious symbolism only, as it should be. (common law marriage also abolished...) 2) With no legally binding marriage, divorce also becomes symbolic and plays no role in the division of property or support of children. 3) Reform of family courts concerning custody matters, including requirement for both parents to contribute child support money to a trust that can only be used for expen…
/r/MGTOW09/09/16 02:08 PM
5

The concept of the infallible female was introduced into the mainstream during Gen-X and has been reinforced in the Millennial generation. The whirlwind of media touting modern feminist ideals propagates the false assertion that women are always correct, or morally superior, or simply deserving of special consideration due to historically identifying as an oppressed class. At least MGTOW have a clear understanding of just how horrible women can be AND understand the risks and lasting negative co…
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 01:58 PM
10

Don't forget this one: https://youtu.be/bekvgMEcgqI?t=1m
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 09:46 AM
2

The concept of "financial abuse" is so unbelievably fucking vague I think I can make an argument that my ex-wife was literally guilty of abusing me throughout the entire 5 years we were married. She refused to put her college degree to good use and get a job with decent salary. Basically, she worked at a job that actually cost us money in the long run because it required travel, provided no benefits, and only paid on commission. This despite the fact that I was forced to put all of my income and…
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 09:31 AM
1

It's not just you. It's a common fallacy.
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 09:10 AM
4

Humanity needs this. Slow down population growth. Increase biologically necessary sexual release for people in general, regardless of actual social acceptance. Gives college aged idiots something new to whine about. For example: "Why are orders for sex bots with skin colors other than white in such low demand?! Racism that's why!" Porn bot orgy Also, I'd like a less murdery version of Number 6 from Battlestar Galactica, thanks.
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 09:04 AM
1

This sums it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdzBaPDmJk
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 01:01 AM
14

They need to suck it up in the same way working men have always been required to when making personal sacrifices to be the breadwinner. Let women fend for themselves!
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 06:19 PM
12

Well, I think everyone complains about 'work'. The problem here is blaming men for the lack of fulfillment in life. The role reversal is comical. When hard working men complain about allegedly lazy wives, apparently, it sounds a lot like working women complaining about their allegedly lazy husbands. Only feminists are quick to condemn men complaining about wives, and fully support women complaining about husbands. Women need to be 'equals' in the work place. Held to the same standards as men. AN…
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 06:16 PM
7

Marriage doesn't make people family in the 'blood relative' sense. But it's not only 'symbolism' (that's all it should be). Instead marriage is a very real legal mechanism used by the state to force men to financially support women and children (even when they're not a man's biological offspring).
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 05:11 PM
3

Hahahahaha :D
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 05:04 PM
4

DNA based paternity tests should be a mandatory requirement for all newborn children, and in all custody/child support disputes, by law!
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 01:56 PM
18

I'll take more hours and higher pay, thanks. In a 'fend for yourself' society I will survive. Let women fend for themselves.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 01:48 PM
6

I don't agree with some of this. For example, in my experience, there are still plenty of hot bitches out there who are feminine. However, the last bit is right on: Women are no longer good wives. And that's the most important point to make. Women are just not worth the investment in time, money, and personal sacrifice of marriage anymore and the risks to long term financial success and mental health are simply too massive. TLDR:Don't put a ring on it.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 01:41 PM
1

On each point, in my opinion: Violent Ends: Generally people don't empathize enough to completely lose their appetite to see some men destroyed. Ad Men: I sincerely doubt that MGTOW makes men immune to the psychological impact of marketing. Backlash: Devoting time for negative public emotional responses to women is inconsistent with going your own way. Tax Breaks: I sincerely doubt MGTOW results in a loss of desire for personal wealth. Elected Official: I also doubt that MGTOW overrides personal…
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 01:11 AM
2

Oh look, another good reason to go your own way. Imagine being forced to pay child support well into retirement after your ex-wife conceives during a so-called "grey divorce" and claims the other guy's baby is yours.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 01:49 PM
10

The married woman I fucked while I was on vacation didn't seem to mind that I wasn't going to commit to her or anyone else. MGTOW doesn't represent a loss to society, or women, and guys shouldn't frame it that way to begin with. MGTOW is a risk avoidance strategy. The loss to society and women is the breakdown of the family structure which is merely the result of changing social values and economic realities. MGTOW helps men avoid the pitfalls of that breakdown: like being destroyed by divorce, …
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 06:14 PM
7

Men everywhere should embrace the concept of the 'Fend for Yourself Society'. I know I can survive. Let women fend for themselves too.
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 05:37 PM
2

Younger attractive women have many options, wanting 3 or 4 types of men at the same time because their impossible standard doesn't match anyone. These younger women flit from one guy to the next, imagining the impossible standard will be met by each at first, then get disappointed when it doesn't, finally retreating to a backup option while seeking another impossible man, and cycling between guys until they age out or settle to get married. The older women accept this process is futile, but only…
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 02:47 PM
24

There are other things to do with one's time than getting drunk at a local bar. This isn't a MGTOW thing, necessarily. The problem is it will reach the point where each of those men have their entire social lives dominated by women. Let those guys attempt to avoid participating in/or object to their women staying out late with those in her social circle. The guy will be labeled controlling and abusive by attempting to 'isolate' her instead of showing concern or encouraging her to be more respons…
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 02:32 PM
22

Men over 30 are absolutely expected to date in the following ways: Be more 'mature' by having a big salary job, a home (or power to purchase one), and one or more vehicles Be better dressed to show off all of that 'maturity' (ie: wealth) Be better mannered than younger men by showing women all sorts of respect without requiring any of them to actually earn that respect Be well traveled (ie: wealth) Be ready to settle down by marrying and effectively surrendering all of that wealth to women
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 10:49 PM
10

"The second time, however, I was not so lucky. In a scenario familiar to millions of people, yet honestly surprising to me, I had sex with a guy (we’ll call him Dan) and never heard from him again. I didn’t know him well and certainly wasn’t emotionally invested, but the interaction still rankled me. We’d got on incredibly well and, for all the nonchalance endemic to casual hook ups, sex is an unavoidably intimate experience. The radio silence post-coitus seemed strangely cold." So basically, th…
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 09:55 PM
2

Don't be fooled by this bullshit. They didn't last because of her options at the time. Now that she's older and has fewer options, she only regrets her 'past love' is not one of the options now. If she had the same options at her current age that she had in young age she'd still dump the chump for more money, or cheat with the guy that 'makes her feel special' this month.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 03:52 PM
17

IDK, from what I've seen, it's all genetics and exercise. Generally though, as long as they take care of themselves physically, most women I've observed don't really lose their looks until about 40. After that the older age really shows. It makes sense in biological terms. After age 35 women become progressively less capable of bearing healthy children. And after 40 the chances of terrible complications and miscarriage are so high it's unlikely they'll have kids naturally. However, if they don't…
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 12:08 PM
3

What the fuck are you doing?! Go and talk to a goddamn lawyer RIGHT NOW! Here's what can happen to you in this fucked up situation: 1) you run out of money, then she kicks you out and starts the legal process to get more money from you in the divorce 2) she gets pregnant again and you'll get stuck with more child support -- AND YOU WILL NOT KNOW IF THE BABY IS YOURS 3) she starts an argument with you and pushes you until you push back -- THEN SHE CALLS THE COPS AND IT BECOMES A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE…
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 01:38 PM
3

Some alternate ways to arrive at this "die alone" realization: 1) Work your entire adult life in a back breaking industry and experience a "grey divorce" when the "unhappy" wife decides to take half of everything (or more), including your retirement (and home), and leaves you alone and in poverty as a senior citizen. 2) Repeatedly marry and divorce women until your income is dedicated to funding the lives of other people (not necessarily even your own children). With a significantly decreased ea…
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 04:08 PM
2

I don't see any problem with this. The sooner marriage ceases to exist as a legal framework for the enslavement and robbery of working men, the better. Let them heap the burden of poor single mothers on the state and then raise taxes on the rich -- including these women. Then they too can pay for the bastards they'll never personally conceive.
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 10:29 PM
9

When she claims the baby is yours be sure to get a DNA test and hope the courts don't force you to pay for support regardless of the test results. Just imagine her with another 100 lbs of body fat, taking money from you every month, and still on the phone lining up new baby daddies while you change diapers on a kid that's probably not even yours.
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 06:03 PM
8

My mantra? I don't really have one. What about these suggestions? No healthy adult should ever be dependent on anyone else. Adults have only one purpose in life: to be responsible for one's own actions. I will survive in a 'fend for yourself' society. Let women fend for themselves.
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 04:57 PM
16

There is no 'fighting' in MGTOW. Go your own way. Don't get yourself involved in any woman's dramatic personal problems, or spend your hard earned wealth on them, or get a woman pregnant, and don't put a ring on it. That's it.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 12:44 PM
1

Race relations were always fucked in the USA. The ugliness was shown more often publicly because conservatives don't want to share power with liberals. 'Man-hate' is easy enough to deal with by going your own way. That's sort of the point. When you don't have kids, and you aren't married, and you don't put yourself in other situations that leave you vulnerable, you effectively avoid the risks of associating with 'man-hating' females. 'Sexual division' is a choice individual men make because of t…
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 11:47 AM
1

I don't know how this is relevant to MGTOW other than the sad reality of political bullshit that will paint Clinton critics as misogynists while supporters paint all women as infallible. The reality is Clinton is a much more experienced establishment candidate who will raise taxes and wage war like others before her. Trump is inexperienced and would disrupt the status quo in favor of ignorance and incompetence. It's not 'feminism', it's just an election.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 04:06 AM
3

1) Modern marriage does not make people 'family' in the traditional 'blood relative' sense 2) Marriage includes significant financial and legal consequences (mostly for men) 3) Marriage inhibits personal success and growth
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 11:09 AM
0

The blending and dissolution of traditional gender roles doesn't really help or hurt women with the exception of active participation in a capitalist economic system which gives them (at least the capability of) legal autonomy. All genders, male or female, will effectively conform to the role traditionally just reserved for heterosexual men. People exist as a simple unit of production (labor) in economic terms. It doesn't matter if one is masculine or feminine, male, female, trans, whatever. The…
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 10:51 AM
2

2016 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk (4WD). :) Thought about Subaru Crosstrek too, but went with the Jeep in the end. I won't try to climb a mountain with it like a tricked out Wrangler but otherwise it will do fine for my plans to get back into the great outdoors.
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 10:23 AM
4

I bought a new vehicle. The first big ticket item I've been able to get for myself, enjoying my personal wealth, since getting divorced, recovering financially, and avoiding more bullshit from women who don't support themselves. I'm going to take it to every big park in the state for camping, hiking, fishing, kayaking, and more. I'll finally enjoy what I couldn't in all of the years I was financially supporting a grown woman who failed to figure out what a real job was (into her 30s) until she w…
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 04:20 AM
1

Porn isn't the problem, other than the "always ready" myth burned into the minds of men from a young age. Younger, thinner, reproductively relevant ladies are just sexier than their older, wider, polluted womb competition.
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 03:36 AM
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Avoiding marriage and children doesn't necessarily make someone childish. Particularly when men recognize the financial and emotional risks of marriage and children. In fact, it's people with fantasy visions of a utopia with marriage and children and living happily ever after who are childish. It's like believing in world peace; nice to think about but completely unrealistic. An adult has only one function in life: to be responsible for one's own actions.
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 12:01 PM
3

If you're just set on getting mixed up with this woman stay alert and protect yourself. 1) Unless you -really- want kids some day, get a vasectomy. That should rule out any accidental pregnancies. 2) Don't ever put a ring on it. Marriage, and divorce, will set you back financially at least 10 years. 3) Don't let her live with you or pay for her rent. Common law marriage will ruin you just as surely as the official sort. Otherwise, hope she doesn't bounce around from bed to bed bringing baggage a…
/r/MGTOW11/08/16 01:15 PM
10

Clinton is NOT concerned about implementing a bunch of anti-men feminist extremism into law. About the most you will see for the purely female electorate is equal pay for equal work, family leave, and protections for abortion rights. Maybe some strengthening of sexual harassment rules for government contractors to abide by. Otherwise, it will all be the status quo. More war. More taxes. Remember, it's the Congress that actually makes the laws.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 06:51 PM
1

Men should care enough to find out because remaining ignorant leaves them vulnerable to harm and manipulation. If men continue to believe women want a fairy tale lifetime committed relationship then men will continue to get completely destroyed in divorce court, or otherwise used as a stepping stone by women. What women really want is a combination of fantasy, needs they fail to provide for themselves, and selfish goals for improved social status, wealth, and reproductive success. Women don't ca…
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 07:02 PM
3

My ex gave me shit for spending a small amount on myself without consulting her, pretty early on in the marriage. By the time we were divorced 5 years had passed and I had no savings thanks to supporting her, covering her student loan debt, and paying off the car that she later got in the divorce. All while she finally figured out in her early 30s what a real career is -- because she was finally forced to support herself in the end. Apparently, women are now taught that if their husbands don't g…
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 03:00 PM
4

It irritates me that even just really, truly caring about a woman poses such a threat to male freedom; that it’s seen as a burden that can’t possibly be juggled until that day arrives when they’re suddenly “mature” enough to appreciate the ways in which it benefits them. Just caring wouldn't be a threat if women weren't a gigantic potential disaster for men in terms of personal finances, mental health, requiring years and perhaps decades of investment for little to no tangible results. Then ther…
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 11:26 AM
1

Clearly that's dependent on each woman and whether they're able to find men willing to overlook their faults and disadvantages. For single mothers: Men aren't naturally interested in raising someone else's biological offspring. The woman's life is not flexible at all according to the kids' needs and/or custody agreements. The father is still in the picture. The new man may not be accepted by the kids.... etc. Women in polyamorous or open relationships/marriages likely haven't hit the wall for th…
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 01:38 AM
1

When I tried online dating I was quick to select the "hide profile" option for single women with kids, polyamorous or "open relationship/marriage" types, land whales, and older women who clearly didn't take care of themselves -- also any women who openly expressed anti-male sentiments on their profiles (thanks for the warning). Surely there are dudes who will pump and dump anything with a pulse. Otherwise, in terms of guys looking for "relationships", yeah, the wall still exists in my opinion. T…
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 07:12 PM
1

National parks. Start exploring in your state and then work your way out to more distant locations. If it's within a few hours driving distance and you can convince your friends' wives that it will be a disgusting bug and snake filled dirty mess of a trip, with no accessible bathrooms, you might be able to get your guy-friends some much needed relief from their slave masters too. If that works out, make sure you're the one who packs out the beer coolers and chow and don't post any photos of you …
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 02:10 PM
2

I don't think so. The USA has been at war for 15 years and counting. We're just even more disposable because women are taught to be afraid of military men OR simply don't want to deal with the way war changes men (PTSD and so on). And if you're married and going to war, when you're deployed what's your woman doing? The chances she's fuckin' someone else while you're gone for a year tend to go up. The chances she's going to leave you and take the kids and take the guaranteed child support and ali…
/r/MGTOW01/08/16 01:15 PM
1

Another example of how the state shovels off responsibility for children on men whether they want the responsibility or not. Paternity tests should be mandatory by law for all newborn babies. Birth certificates should not be signed --or legally binding-- until the results of the required paternity test are revealed.
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 03:44 PM
5

What about the drunk women who casually try to fuck dudes they aren't married to? Seriously. The time one came on to me, drunk, in a hallway, including grabbing my crotch and rubbing my dick over my pants, while her husband was right upstairs at a party. The time a coworker (supervisor actually) got wasted on a business trip and actually pushed me down on a hotel bed and tried to force me to fuck her. The time I went drinking with some old high school friends when I was visiting my hometown and …
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 12:34 AM
1

It's not that feminism is good or bad requiring acceptance or rejection by men. If you're MGTOW, the good AND the bad of feminism both become completely irrelevant to you.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 09:46 PM
2

Just a reminder to you and others: MGTOW is not a strategy for happiness. It's risk avoidance to give you a fighting chance in a society that demonizes you and subsidizes the wealth and needs of others at your expense.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 04:13 PM
2

Look, you need to wake up and look at this from a more rational and scientific perspective. That 'connection' you feel is brain chemistry. There is nothing special about it. Human brains have evolved to encourage breeding and social bonding. The mind signals the release of oxytocin, from the pituitary gland, which creates those good feels when you make a 'connection' with a woman, a friend, a parent, or even a pet dog. Oxytocin is sometimes called the trust hormone or love hormone. That's it. Th…
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 03:49 PM
3

The only people who enjoy a life of whimsy are trust fund babies. The rest of us normals have to work hard and suffer. Not to say you can't enjoy your wealth; you can and should. Go ahead and avoid debt in the future, if you can. It really doesn't matter how much cash you have, whether you marry or not, whether you have kids or fuck a thousand women and remain a playboy for life. You're the only one who can figure out what'll make you happy. Maybe the money and hobbies will get you there. Good l…
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 01:27 AM
3

"The couple separated in 2012 when she moved out of the family home in Canterbury, the court heard." If she was living in his home at any point, rather than supporting herself in her own separate home, then it's basically a "common law marriage" scenario. Let this be a lesson to all men. You can't just avoid the marriage itself. You have to avoid the trappings of a marriage too. Don't let a woman become dependent on you financially in any way. Don't think that you can 'live with' a woman and esc…
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 01:02 AM
1

What? MGTOW can't pay for pussy when they want some? He can afford more risk than the rest of us and the women don't define his life. That's his own way. There ain't a strict set of 'rules' for life without bullshit relationships and marriage.
/r/MGTOW18/07/16 01:04 PM
1

Don't become a hippie. Nothing wrong with enjoying life and whatever wealth you have but there won't be anyone around to help you out when the job market dries up again. Steady full time employment is a gateway to retirement savings and health insurance. Don't stop taking vacation time. Just plan for the future and be prepared for adversity...
/r/MGTOW18/07/16 12:58 PM
3

Leo Dicaprio is the MGTOW poster boy. Enjoys his wealth. Enjoys women when it suits him -- because he can afford it. Doesn't get hung up on their bullshit and doesn't get married. Of course, he can afford to do it that way and has the 'qualities' women want (ie: looks and money they can potentially take from him)... Since the rest of us normals can't afford it, we'll have to settle for 2 out of 3 on that score. More power to him.
/r/MGTOW16/07/16 06:12 PM
5

Online dating is still a dumpster fire in general. It's not necessarily that way because all of the women have unrealistic requirements of all men -- though most of them do. It's more because the whole process is completely unnatural. Women get complacent because they're not sitting in the bar watching the few men they all think meet the impossible standard hit on the hottest woman in the room, ignoring the rest. They think inbox spam represents a room full of interested men as opposed to a stat…
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 12:24 AM
3

Idk, using a surrogate to get a kid with your own DNA looks like it could work as a thought exercise, but there is something inherently sinister about creating a baby factory economy in foreign countries for westerners who don't want to adopt or deal with the financial fallout of kids out of wedlock or divorce. The whole scenario is ripe for human rights abuses and likely includes human trafficking and slavery. I think feminists, and everyone, really should oppose an industry that exports humans…
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 07:07 PM
1

I certainly should have accounted for history on this specific subject. Apparently, in 1998 this was previously explored in an article, "The Male Abortion: The Putative Father's Right to Terminate His Interests in and Obligations to the Unborn Child", written by an attorney named Melanie McCulley. Also, it was tested in court in 2004 in Dubay v. Wells and made it to the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals which ruled against the father: "Dubay’s claim that a man’s right to disclaim fatherhood wo…
/r/MGTOW03/07/16 08:36 AM
1

It's not a socialist or communist regime where the government mandates men and women will be assigned jobs x and y. Obviously, the American economy does incorporate some socialist policies -- some that benefit women and men. One could argue the system overall is rigged in order to enable the increased participation of women in the economy. That is clearly the case in some respects (employment discrimination laws, for example) so the weight of social policies that encourage women's participation …
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 10:14 PM
1

I don't have a problem with women expecting men to perform dumb acts of chivalry like holding open a door or giving her flowers to make her feel special. The line needs to be drawn along practical lines like paying for a woman's needs or otherwise providing a woman with resources (including free labor) at a man's expense. By all means, pull out a chair and hold open a door, but when the bill comes to the table, split the check or let her get it. If she can't pay her rent, get her kid into a bett…
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 09:28 PM
1

Possibly but washing out because of physical fitness/medical and drugs is a major problem in general for males and females these days. As many as two-thirds of Americans don't qualify for military service according to the Pentagon... http://www.wsj.com/articles/recruits-ineligibility-tests-the-military-1403909945
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 09:16 PM
1

OK. Well, I'm not interested so much in how we all arrived at this point. I'm actually fine with any aspect of feminism that ultimately results in women fending for themselves as productive 'individuals'. I'm interested in creating a society that enables MGTOW the same way it enables feminism. In order to accomplish that, expectations of men will have to change. The family unit has already been scrapped so let's modify laws to accommodate MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW02/07/16 09:07 PM
1

Child support is one important aspect of a man's plight in the event of an unintended or unwanted pregnancy. If a woman doesn't want to be a parent, or is simply unsuited for parenthood, she can get an abortion or give up the unwanted child for adoption and go on with her life. If a man doesn't want to be a parent, he gets no choice in the matter of terminating the pregnancy. Even if he isn't ready or suited to be a parent, or can't afford it, he can still be compelled by law to pay for and supp…
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 04:04 PM
1

I saw some females in the Army who were more than capable of aiming a weapon and carrying their own weight. I also saw plenty of males in the Army who should have been discharged because they were terrible, terrible soldiers who couldn't pull their own weight. I think the draft should include women for all roles in military service and a no tolerance policy on pregnancy while on active duty during war should be enforced.
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 03:57 PM
1

No. Women have a choice in the matter and men do not. Parenthood is inherently unequal in terms of this choice. While women should get to decide what happens to their own bodies, fundamentally they also get to ultimately decide whether to be a parent. The social acceptance of women deciding their future by choosing whether to be a parent is well established. Men should also be able to choose whether or not to be a parent regardless of the woman's decision to keep a baby in an equal society. I'm …
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 03:46 PM
1

Of course any man can get a vasectomy or use birth control -- that's not really the point. The point is we all should have choices and some people are not cut out to be parents, or don't want to be parents, and they damage their kids. In an equal society, give men the same options that women have with respect to children. Make sure they don't damage their kids by 'owning' a screw up with a lifetime of additional screw ups. You can debate about whether it's a moral act. MGTOW should encourage a s…
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 03:18 AM
1

Right on. I'm not suggesting you or anyone else is immoral or 'wrong' for feeling angry. I just think that the ongoing antagonism against feminism and women seems contrary to the whole concept of excluding women for personal improvement/health/survival -- contrary to MGTOW. Also to clarify my comment about participating fully economically, I just meant that women have joined the workforce in general. Obviously, some are more independent than others. Either way, the economic influence of capitali…
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 12:41 PM
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