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If porn and video games is better than women, then why are you here complaining about women instead of enjoying your supposedly better choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 01:11 PM
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Why would you need some passive aggressive bs “in response”? What purpose would that serve? You think anyone’s going to read it and think “wow, I better date this guy now because he’s not going to accept me later if I change my mind!”. Just don’t date the women who behave the way you don’t like. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 01:08 PM
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From Denmark yes, and I opted out and haven't paid taxes in many years Soo you don't work or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 03:27 PM
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You're from denmark? Would you prefer to have to be the sole support of your stay-at-home wife rather than her getting maternity leave, really? You'd want a woman who might marry you just because you have money, whie she'd fuck some other guy behind your back? Because those were the "Good old days". Women have always had needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:55 AM
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Finding a decent loving girl for a companion is hard as fuck if not a damn near impossibility Wait, I thought TRP's reason for existing was because "It works" even though there's no science behind any of it's claims? nor are they capable of submitting to a man's benevolent authority in which she looks up to and loves her man as her superior. ahahhahahaahhaha I believe religion got it right when it said women should worship men, men should not worship women. How is this guy not getting laid? We a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:41 AM
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A lousy deal for the men of course. In the old system, at least there was some reciprocity. The new deal is just a one way street. You don't think women contribute in some way by, I dunno, giving birth to the entire population of the world? That's time they don't get paid for in your ass backwards USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:27 AM
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I rest my case then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:02 PM
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I don't know any either. Most of those I know who have paired off early are not pursuing higher education.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:20 PM
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african americans are more culpable for crime. This is just reality. African americans rob stores, murder, rape and become pimps, and overall simply glorify crime. "But some african americans are brought up in bad neighborhoods" you say. Yes, by whom? By other african americans. With the exception of some minor shaming by whites, crime is 100% the domain of blacks. This is too easy. Should we do muslims on the next one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:58 PM
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Let's apply that logic to other categories: African americans are the ones who start gang wars and fight in them, so take up african american lives mattering with them. It's not our fault that african americans fight gang wars, when have whites ever had a say on that? You'd fit right into the alt right with that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:56 PM
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More realistic scenario: Granny and her 10 grandsons are living in a farm. Government that argues with other government forces 10 grandsons to enlist for army. 7 Grandsons die in war. Granny is raped. Granny is apprently the biggest victim because the people who were also forced to go to war for their country (on the penalty of death) shared the same gender as her grandsons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:54 PM
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No time spent practising plate spinning? He'll turn out an incel for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 04:38 PM
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Shit test practice for breakfast, frame holding workshops in the weekends, no sports or hobbies only lifting. Guaranteed success
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 04:36 PM
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This is bunk. The United States is arguably much further to the left on women's rights and racial equality than any other country in the world, the left just makes this absurd talking point that politics is represented on a line where "left" = Good™ and "right" = Bad™. Arguably more to the left than any country in the world? Are you joking? Name one metric where you're far to the left on these standards. Go to superliberal california and you'll see streets full of mostly african american homeles…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:13 PM
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Go somewhere other introverts go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 07:18 AM
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Trump doesn't matter. Renewable energy is becoming more profitable than fossil fuels a lot faster than what economists were expecting - soon hopefully the market will phase out the fossil fuels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:44 PM
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Also, it's been this way for awhile, but most "single" women have between 5-10 men at any given time who are helping them out (cell phone, rent, car, pay off bills) with sexual favors as part of the deal. hahahahahaha what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:31 PM
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Sure, i agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:27 PM
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It's a men's issue (that also supports women) but yes, an integral part of any modern society is paternity leave as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 08:42 PM
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Your definition of "Leftist" implies that a democratic voter in the US can be categorized as left-leaning. However, both the democratic and republican party would be categorized as far right in any other industrialized country, so I don't accept this relativist approach. To say that a field is leftist would imply that it is heavily biased by leftist notions such as the idea of gender as a complete social construct, or the ideas of a "carte blanche" human mind. Such ideas prevail in certain socio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 08:41 PM
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Please show me this landmark study. I'm not arguing that academia in general has a large presence of left-leaning researchers who basically use their work to push leftis ideology. However, psychology tends to not be on this side of academia. Have you seen the documentary series "Brainwashed"? This illustrates it perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 02:16 PM
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And you think that psychology, the field which has a clear consensus on genetically determined gender differences in behavior, has a leftist bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 01:58 PM
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This is not the same as one specific movement globally using the tactics of attempting to ban opposing speakers from campuses or events (as the SA famously did with communists) showing up at events of opposing factions to drown out the message being presented with shouting (again, as the SA did). There are many more commonalities, but I'm pretty sure you won't find another group that does this on an organized, global basis that isn't radical islamist, white supremacist etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 11:00 AM
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Maybe not today, but it's a starting point for mobilization in 2018 and 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:43 AM
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How are protest marches sign of a lack of democratic values? I mean sure, these guys blocking trump supporters access to the inaguration are anti-democratic bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:39 AM
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Trump has given feminism an actual legitimate target. Maybe SJWs will stop making up ridiculous problems now and actually do something useful(Fight for paid maternity leave, retain right of abortion etc) No. It shows that a lot of women dislke the fact that someone who speaks of women like Trump does can get elected. In the US, maternity leave. One of the most important milestones of women's lib. Of course they've been more concerned with intersectional trigger warnings and banning speakers from…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:35 AM
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Those tactics are used by nearly every group to try and influence nearly every other group Really? Could you find me one example of a non-extreme group acting like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:31 AM
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If you've ever read about the Nazi organization SA during the 30s, they used many of the exact same tactics to front nazism. I think this indicates what a totalitarian movement the extreme left has become.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:38 PM
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This approach would be applauded in most circles. You certainly have low opinions of feminists if you think the above response should be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:36 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:33 PM
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How exactly do you define scienficially valid in this context and which unproven axioms and assumptions are you referring to? Of course psychology isn't a hard science like say, biology. But it's far superior to anecdotes from the TRP sub. It also teaches us of things like confirmation bias and groupthink which helps shape communities like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:54 PM
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Probably not. Do you think "reading a whole entire book" is some kind of huge accomplishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:52 PM
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No one has direct scientific proof of human nature Every heard of Psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 07:23 PM
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Funny how you claim women act like teenagers, yet you somehow think anyone over 12 years old falls for your "Science is for NEERDS!!11!!" argument. Other TRP people: Does this guy (rejecting facts, preferring ideology) represent you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:28 PM
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Arranged marriages will probably never happen, but I could imagine society encouraging people to get married at 20 rather than 30. Why? IIRC earlier marriages usually end in divorce. Assuming a bleak future, there could be an increased focus on manual labor, which would increase the relative earning power of men. Like a world war or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 06:15 PM
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So outside of legalization of prostitution (Which most humanitarian organizations support) - do you see any of these options as ethically feasable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 05:33 PM
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You and me both
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:59 AM
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Punishment by law for cheating you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 10:44 AM
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women just see it as the free market playing out as it does and it shouldn't be interfered with How exactly would one interfer?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 09:38 AM
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....for the reasons I explained above(Reference to David Buss). Please try to follow the context of the discussion. It's almost like you forget what I've said in a previous reply with every new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 06:18 PM
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This is the evo psych explanation. But yes of course, haven't you? This is even a TRP meme - the plain jane woman who believes the "Chad" who pumps and dumps her will commit. Part of the "Deal" when banging a less attractive woman is that there's no strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 06:17 PM
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The people's democratic republic of North Korea also literally means a republic with democracy in North Korea. Feminists claim to fight for equality. When someone is against feminism, claiming that this person is against equality is just like claiming a war protester is antipatriotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 06:14 PM
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I agree. It's also apparently about creating out-groups that you can protest against. The obvious solution to the toilet issue is unisex bathrooms. Case closed. If women are held back from getting into engineering, then programs that aim at discovering talent at an early stage in all individuals would get them into engineering quicker. Of course there's the issue of gender balance in terms of how attractive the social aspect of the study is, but if an equal amount of women and men want to become…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:27 PM
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Plain rationalization wouldn't be very scientific. But most of the recognized research in Evo Psych is based on hypothesis testing. Especially when it comes to sexual behavior. It's more data-driven than most people think. Just observing a trait and saying "Yeah that's like that because some adaptive challenge on the savannah" isn't all that useful unless it gives us a testable hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:22 PM
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That's not possible. If a man is going to be sleeping with multiple women, some of them are going to be better looking than others, unless they are all identical twins. Sure, but he'd still have the preference for women who are more attractive than himself in all of them. How does this dispute anything I've put forward? And why are you making the standard for 'love' and 'closeness' or whatever monogamy? You get that monogamy the way we practice it is widely thought to be unnatural in humans, rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:14 PM
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We are apparently using different definitions of harems. A man who has a 'harem' has multiple sexual partners. While he may not have feelings for them (doubtful, knowing most men), that isn't a given. Harem has a very obvious historical connotation. But if you were referring to a polygamous loving relationship al along then I'm curious what you think of the original point here - men would be hypergamous (in regards to looks) in that setting as well. Men only tolerate women who don't look that go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:13 PM
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What feminism is pursuing isn't equality -- what it chases after is very definitely female-centered, pro-woman advances. Nothing equal about that. Feminism is more about equalization of what it perceives to be a currently unbalanced system. Agree 100%. Feminism is about women's issues. And that's perfectly legitimate. But you don't have to be a feminist just because you care about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:03 PM
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Whether or not you're for equality is just a manipulative technique used by feminists. Like asking if you're not a patriot for not supporting some war.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:02 PM
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Personally, I think most of it is pseudoscience due to irreplicable nature of the study. That's interesting. Which studies are you referring to? Which scientists? Which theories?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 03:59 PM
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Yeah, I got that. 'Nuh-uh!' is not a rebuttal. As the late Christopher Hitchens said: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Do you really think it is impossible for men to love, be close to, and even commit to more than one woman at a time? Switching the goalposts I see. From Harems to loving polygamous relationships. In the case of relationships I think it's fair to say a poly relationship would involve the same looks standards from a man as a monogamous one. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 03:29 PM
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It shows perfectly that democracy was a bad idea. You wouldn't let your dog vote, but Trump voters are literally more gullible and naive than my dog. I agree with everything you said about who trump is and how he appeals to people, but I believe what this shows is how the regressive left can ruin effective democracy by strangling debate. You see the exact same thing happening in Sweden - extremestist leftist lynchmobs have an iron grip on public debate, and what happens then? People are pushed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 02:50 PM
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where we spare the truth to avoid hurt feelings. Really? "Truth" is what comes to mind when you think of a man who denies having tweeted things that are literally right there in the open for anyone to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 02:43 PM
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Yes degrees can be useless if you're not smart and/or don't understand or apply what you've been taught. The people who are bought into the college system are understandably interested in keeping a degree in high regard. To not do so would devalue their own degree basically. The feedback loop is pretty easy to see. Aren't you in the college system yourself? How do you view the usefullness of your own education?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:09 AM
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Lol, you two know each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:06 AM
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What do you think my point was with the video rebuttal? May I perhaps be suggesting that that's now how the Halo effect works? And wanting commitment is not mutually exclusive to a pluralistic sex drive, so I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. You don't know what it's supposed to mean because you didn't look up the term I told you to look up. Here's a definition from Wikipedia: Sociosexual orientation (or sociosexuality) is the individual difference in the willingness to engage in sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:05 AM
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The Halo Effect shows us that looks automatically confer status. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FFG1NqKzCg If men are forced to choose between women, as happens in societies that allow only monogamy, and men are going to have to choose the one woman they will have sex with for the rest of their lives, of course they are going to go for 'the best' (while still desiring or even actually adding 'side pieces' as they go along). A lot of men do want commitment, not harems. As I said, this is called…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:13 PM
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I guess I speak in hyperbole just like trp
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:04 PM
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Ok so you've said that my general rules have exceptions? I'm okay with that , I agree Good. But you still didn't answer my first question though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:03 PM
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I have yet to meet a woman who admits to desiring sex with a man she does not respect (higher status in some way). I have yet to meet a man who has the same condition for desire. If you're talking about casual sex then yeah I agree there are more men with lower bars. But then again looks get you casual sex with women even if you aren't higher status. You look at a relationship and we're talking hypergamy from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:02 PM
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I think part of it is that a lot of parents will keep supporting a kid so long as they're in school. I know a guy like this, almost 30 years old, still working on his undergrad and his parents pay his rent and car payment. Why would you ever graduate or drop out if you had a sweet deal like that? (Granted, that's an extreme example. Most parents have the sense to cut a kid off before it reaches that point.) Haha I know a guy like this as well. He owns an apartment that he rents out so he has inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:41 PM
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but for a lot of people here it's definitely seen as just a way to prolong adolescence for a few more years. I think the difference from that and Norway would be that those types simply drop out. Not everything works better if you view it as a business it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:27 PM
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That's not an indication of male hypergamy. If women prefer men with higher status that's hypergamy, but if men prefer more attractive women, it's not? Explain the logic behind this to me please. Men are polygamous by nature. If there was no limit to the number of women a man could sleep with (i.e., no monogamous constraints), chances are he wouldn't pass up having sex with a woman who was his equal or even less attractive than him. He's not biding his time waiting for some dream woman to show u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:26 PM
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Hypergamy doesn't just mean "better in some way" it's a more precisely defined concept than that, it refers specifically to selection for specific status traits So it does not refer to looks then? In that case, are you claiming that women do not want guys who are better looking than them? Further, women's attraction is closer to "attraction and selection of to the best one possible," which is something men have intuitive trouble understanding because men's own attraction is more like "attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:24 PM
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TL;DR because someone went to college does not automatically make them smart or a good partner. That might be so, but I still think the attitude that you want someone who has also gone to college is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:21 PM
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Hmm ok, anyone share this impression other than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:18 PM
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I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:17 PM
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A 40 minute video of some random youtube guy talking is not what I consider acceptable evidence for that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:09 PM
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I'm not sure I get your point here. Men prefer women prettier than themselves. Women prefer men with higher status than themselves. How are women the only hypergamous ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:07 PM
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I live in Norway. Education is free. It's not about earning. It's about having intellectual capacity and an interest for a subject. Of course you'll find examples of people with degrees who have neither, but you'll mind more of these without degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:06 PM
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That is quite interesting. Although an obvious confounding variable here is that women are less likely to engage in risk-taking behavior than men, so it is likely that women would not attend such an event due to fear of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:03 PM
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Sooo you're saying his definition was wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:50 PM
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Correction: Women on OkCupid rate pictures of male OkCupid users in accordance with a pattern that suggest most male OkCupid users have pictures that make them appear unnatractive to most female OkCupid users.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:50 PM
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Did you read the quote you made? Women prefer richer, more educated men. Men prefer prettier women. Both men and women are hypergamic on different dimensions. A top 70% looks man who is top 80% socioeconomic gets the top 80% woman who is top 70% socioeconomic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:02 PM
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What he did is socially retarded. You don't treat women on dating sites like job applicants - you just ignore the first message if you're not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:55 PM
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Yeah me too. A woman really has to compensate if she doesn't have a bachelor's. Preferably an MSc like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:51 PM
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You come across this? How exactly? Do interview people about who they bang and their social status? I'm basing my statement on very easily available information on relationships. You can look up people on facebook and you'll see that they usually have the same education level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:49 PM
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Ooor you can throw away the wacky ideological phrases and instead look up the matching hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:47 PM
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1-3 dates is ok. Anything more than that and I'll start doubting that she has a sex drive or is actually attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:13 AM
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I've never heard a guy slut shame personally. It's always been women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:12 AM
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This is why a woman throwing the creep insult at a guy doing something as innocuous as "approaching while unattractive" is perceived as a bitch. How is this bitchy behavior? A persons body language tells you whether or not your approach is welcome. If you approach even though the body language of a person clearly indicates discomfort, that's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:07 AM
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Yeah, and try finding an educated woman who will accept an uneducated man. You won't find her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:58 AM
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Obviously I am on this sub because I'm interested in debating it's merits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:36 PM
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Another point we disagree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:32 PM
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You want to see confirmation bias, try discussing whether all women shit test or are hypergamous with a true TRP believer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:13 PM
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Sort of. Months of texting and phone calls consisting of sweet nothings and empty promises, followed by a few nice dates with sex, then I get thoroughly ghosted. I'm curious, when you say ghosted - did they ignore you or simply stop taking the initiative? What you're describing there doesn't really sound like being "Pumped and dumped" TBH. It sounds more like you were dating, the time came when they realized it started getting serious enough for them to have to make a choice, and they chose not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:39 PM
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So you did a lot of dating, and once you had sex one time they just ignored you? That's really douchy I agree (unless you traumatize them with sex or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:18 PM
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Ok. We want different things then. Sorry your wife cheated on you. But as far as I know what I want is pretty much the norm - people like people who are similar to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 05:20 PM
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But it's true. As someone with a master's degree who owns my own place and has a pretty good career, I expect much of the same from a partner. Anyone without a college degree or any sort of career prospects aren't interesting to me. What about you? What's your background and preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:18 AM
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Did they say they wanted a relationship with you? If so yeah I agree that's assholery. And how does one imply with behavior that one wants a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:51 AM
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You didn't answer the second question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:49 PM
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They took advantage of me by not being honest with their intentions. Men force women into casual sex because ya'll relationship-block us. So girls have no other choice but to adapt and give the guy what he wants. Forced? Were you raped? If he tells you he's looking for a relationship with you then yeah that's kind douchy. But is that what you've experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:28 PM
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Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:26 PM
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CARE Jobs are way underpaid in almost all countries. Not aware of countries outside mine (Norway). Some care jobs are underpaid, others are pretty decently paid here. CARE Jobs are not rated highly by most Rated in what metric? Men would do CARE Jobs if payment was better/hours better too. Most women I know who chose CARE jobs in health did so partly because they have the opportunity to work part time giving them a lot of flexibility. So hours is a reason why they're chosen. You work bad hours y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:54 PM
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I dunno. Fake it till you make it is a thing even in the mainstream Doesn't make it legit. Approaching women is an example. If most RP types were themselves they'd never approach as the whole situation makes them uncomfortable at first and they lack confidence not in who they are just in general. RP and even PUA advice is to approach women a lot, get over your fear and eventually that part of you will change and you will be fine approaching women. I more or less don't approach. Even when I did t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:13 PM
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In elementary school?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 05:10 PM
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I'd say BP is filled with just as much, if not more hate. And it's much more "Rightous" hate. It's infected with SJW-itis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:23 AM
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Now, BPers are a bit at fault even when it comes to the love part. Cuz BPers don't understand that not everyone's 'yourself' is attractive. Sometimes yourself is an awkward nerd. And not all awkward nerds have 30 years to wait for a woman to love their awkwardness. Being yourself is more akin to being comfortable with who you are. If you are nerdy and a bit awkward, this doesn't actually matter that much if you own up to this. If you're ashamed of who you are on the inside, this will shine throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:22 AM
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Somehow the RP people will manage to interpret this as passing shit tests or holding frame or whatever. My take: Women are generally attracted to any sort of competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:17 AM
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Ideas such as hypergamy and branch jumping portray women as fundamentally untrustworthy and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:06 AM
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It realizes that being a man, especially a mediocre looking or socially awkward man, isn't a fucking cakewalk despite all this "down with the patriarchy'/women are oppressed" crap we hear from feminists. And this would also be something a lot more people would get on board with if it wasn't for the ridiculous "Lolol hypergamy awalt branchjump 80/20 women are all teenagers" stuff. Feminism isn't really as popular as many people think, the movement has just maneuvered a bunch of bullies into power…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 07:04 AM
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Yes. PUA was all like "Haha I will use my nerd powers to master sexual dynamics and then fuck all the women and out-alpha all the men!" TRP is more like "I'm going to become an alpha male and fuck all the women but also here's a bunch of stories of how much I dislike women, AWALT confirmed."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:13 PM
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Traditional PUA - "To get women you gotta do x-y-z, dress like this, neg her like that, use this pickup line.." RP - "Dude, quit that shit. You gotta fix yourself and get your shit together first. Become a better man overall and women will come to you" Every single piece of PUA advice ever has told men to become "The best version of themselves". If you've read the game, the first thing Neil Strauss does is to fix his looks. TRP has tons of rehashed PUA techniques. Holding frame, handling shit te…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:09 PM
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What is your view personal view and thoughts on RP? A pinch of PUA mixed with a clove of Manosphere/MRA. Part power fantasy for unsuccesful men, part symptom of an ongoing male identity crisis in the west in the wake of feminism - the same type of crisis that partly explains Donald Trump's success. Pretty much offers rehashed PUA advice in addition to some ideas that clearly capture the attention of sexually unsuccesful men (80/20, hypergamy) and that are results of how men experience online dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 09:06 PM
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Great summary. Agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:18 PM
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The ones who claim to be more or less renaissance men who have successfully implemented every form of self improvement avaliable (perfect careers, runs marathons, perfect style, travels and takes photos, plays music etc) yes I don't believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 07:13 PM
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Talking through something is often the first step on the way to understanding it enough (and emotionally distancing yourself enough) from it in order to do something about it. Also, if your primary concern is the emotional effect of a given problem, and this is alleviated by talking - doesn't it seem to be a logical solution? Remember the story about traffic problems and frustration - you can probably relate on some level. I think a combination of the two approaches is healthy. Talking through s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 07:26 AM
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http://www.bradley.edu/dotAsset/165805.pdf Yes, this is exactly what I'm referring to with evolutionary psychology. It basically boils down to(IIRC) women wanting commitment, resources and protection primarily, and men primarily wanting short-term mating. In contrast to the TRP ideas. Those drives are antagonistic when it comes to sexual strategy but the optimal solution for a woman brings catastrophic damage for a man. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 07:22 AM
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While I think the work that those authors did was astounding (I am a lifelong student of economics, or at least, lifelong since college), I'm not sure what dots you are trying to connect here. You said you didn't understand my proposition that people constantly make judgements, but are unaware of how they do this or the information they base their judgements on. Cognitive psychology has the answer to that question, and that book is a good popular science book on cognitive psychology. Then they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:16 PM
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What do you mean by a top level post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:57 PM
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It's probably a gender wide conspiracy. That's obviously the most likely alternative. What other option could there be, that you don't understand how female attraction works? Hahahah preposterous!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:17 PM
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Haha paradoy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:16 PM
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Hmm yes I get what you're saying, in a setting where a man approaches a woman, the subject of most of the conversation is actually her testing the man. As I've said previously (maybe not to you though) I think a certain type of women do test. Especially the type who is very shallow and found in a club. But this is far from the majority of women, and far from the majority of setting in which you can interact with a woman in a way that leads to sex. The meaning of all of these "Tests" that are men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:15 PM
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It makes sense to be skeptical about female's intentions because their sexual strategies antagonizes men's, and their optimization of it brings catastrophic damage. You're talking about TRP's theory of female sexual strategy right? Not the type postulated by evolutoinary psychologists? Maybe you can identify some markers, but the strategy is the same for all women and men. Whatever works for you then. These are just two different approaches to an issue that I suspect come down to personality dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:56 PM
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Hey, I know you're a parody account lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:48 PM
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IIRC research does support the notion that women more often solve problems through solving their emotional consequences (talking about them, emoting) while men more often try to eliminate the cause of the problems. Still, the notion that "Communication" is a BS female/BP notion is pretty far-fetched. Men aren't all autists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:47 PM
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"Hold my bag for me!" sounds like conative, but it is referential. She is probing the man for his fitness. That's circular reasoning. You have to accept that shit tests are real for that to be an argument for how shit tests can be categorized in a meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:12 PM
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Why? Aren't women pretty much universally skeptical of male intentions? Even if they aren't overtly so (and no one is), the thought is no doubt present in the back of their mind - "Is this guy just interested in getting in my pants?" They're skeptical of male intentions, and they're the ones who have all of the social and emotional edges - despite all that, they still can't read minds, so they're skeptical of male intentions. Whether or not a woman is skeptical of a man really depends on each wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:56 PM
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I've studied psychology, not all that familiar with language function models. But if shit tests are referential, that means many of the examples from the Shit test encyclopedia are wrong. For instance: “Hold my bag for me!” is a conative function. And still even if they are referential that is a pretty damn broad category. She says "The autumn leaves have fallen" (like in the wiki) and you reply "PENISPENISPENIS". Whoa there! She put you in a situation where replying in a certain way decreases i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:53 PM
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Yep. This basically explains how tinder works. Start putting in signs of wealth/status and you'll immediately see that it's more than just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:21 PM
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The idea is, you are put in a certain situation, or made a question, BY a woman, and your behavior might make her more interested, or less interested. That definition is useless. You can apply that to absolutely everything and it can never be disproven. For example: A woman puts you into a certain situation by smiling and saying "Hi". If you don't pass this shit test she will be less interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:19 PM
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You don't ever say something to emote, really? If you're in traffic and some guy drives like an idiot, are you expecting answers to questions when you tell this story to a friend over a beer, or are you just venting frustration?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:14 PM
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Say you get into a political discussion at a party. Someone is disagreeing with you and they get a little agitated. You don't back down from your position, but you remain calm and move the conversation back into friendlier waters. That's holding frame. When you use an example like that yeah that's just integrity and some social intelligence. But you know as well as I do that the context in which "Frame" is applied in TRP is frame control when being "Shit tested". If you suddenly believe that a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 04:09 PM
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I feel like you're glossing over some good evidence as to why men are perfectly rational in being skeptical of female intention. Being skeptical of female intentions in general doesn't make sense to me. Being skeptical of certain types of women, or certain types of behavior absolutely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:49 PM
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There is no alternative explanation as for why questions and jokes which were conventionally labeled shit tests are made, there is no alternative explanation as to why behaving in certain fashions raises a girl's interest. (If you have an alternative model, be my guest.) Of course there is. For instance, one of the most fundamental types of humor that exists is related to breaking social norms. Ever heard of the aristocrats? This is what you do when you bust someone's balls. Womens interest rise…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:48 PM
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TRP does do self improvement, but their nonsense can also cancel it out. Lifting, buliding a social life, working on studies/career = SMV goes up Thinking you have to "Hold frame", using silly techniques to doge "Shit tests" = Socially awkward, SMV goes down
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:15 AM
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You were REALLY discussing the existence of shit tests? "Were you REALLY discussing the existence of patriarchy?" You can do statistics on that one. At this point you might have millions of pick up artists observing them on a daily basis. You can question whether the explanation as to why they do exist is realistic though, but I can tell you in advance it's a quite logical model. "You can do statistics on that one. At this point you might have millions of women with lived experience on a daily b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:07 AM
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If, generally speaking, 50% of women were trust worthy and straightforward, than the men who assume 100% are, are going to be very disappointed when they meet one of the ones that aren't. I think this is a good expectation in many areas of life. For instance if you're going on vacation or something you've got planned, having very specific expectations will always lead to disappointment (and you will annoy everyone else). Same goes for your career, the partner you visualize etc - expectations can…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:05 AM
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Skepticism of women isn't sexism. It's self-defense. This is kind of the attitude I'm thinking of. Treat every gun as if it's loaded etc. I have the opposite attitude - I assume people are trustworthy until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:55 AM
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"Communication" is bullshit. When guys talk, they "shoot the shit". When girls talk, they have this delusion that it means something. Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:48 AM
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I've noticed that red pillers tend to be people who have a lot of faith in others by nature. They tend to be (or to have formerly been) very trusting and conscientious people who eventually figured out that most people aren't as trusting/conscientious as they are. Idk. When I see RPers talking about their past as being "Nice", it kind of reminds me of the incels who claim to have trained themselves to be top athletes, run comedy shows, travelled the world, started a charity organization etc when…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:27 PM
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Yes, this might be a better explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:22 PM
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If their own personality traits are the reason they don't believe women's stated sexual/romantic preferences, shouldn't it be the case that they never believed women's stated preferences? But what they generally report is that they believed them during their youth, and then (from some combination of personal failure, seeing which other guys succeeded, and reading TRP) they came to discover what women are "really" attracted to and only then started disbelieving women's stated preferences. That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:47 PM
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No, it's the idea that feeling each other out is uniform to everyone. What exactly do you think shit tests are? The way people shit test each other is different for everyone (even if there are some common ones). My wife loves to shit test (I've watched her shit test countless guys), but she's never said anything like "I bet you say that to all the girls." The idea isn't that everyone says the same stuff all the time. The definition you have accepted (from the link you gave) is that a shit test i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:42 PM
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Hm, I don't know. Delusional in the same way as your average feminist, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:45 PM
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I've read a lot of Buss. How humans 'feel each other out' or make quick determinations about each other (remember, it isn't just women, and it isn't just sex) is not in his scope. David Buss writes a lot about mate value and how it can be assessed. You're making the assumption that there has to be a mechanism for people to "feel each other out" that is uniform to everyone. And how would a woman determine if the man she is considering bedding is actually intelligent or not? Hmmm, if only there wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:59 PM
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I don't even know what we are disagreeing on, I don't think. I'm telling you that how I respond to something a woman says will make the difference between us having sex and us not having sex (or sometimes, the difference between hot enthusiastic sex and lackluster sex, as can happen in a relationship). I know this because I've experienced it directly. How can you say that doesn't happen? I can't say anything regarding your personal experience, but your personal experience as well as your interpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:25 AM
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Except that how I respond will determine whether we have sex or not. I don't know that that is the same as someone just making an off-the-cuff statement. You and I obviously disagree on this. Your acting like psychology and human behavior in general falls under the realm of hard science. It doesn't. As my friend (a highly respected psychologist and clinical therapist) says, psychology is as much art as it is science. Your insistence that studies are the only arbiter of 'truth' is misguided. How …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:58 PM
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Things are getting hot and heavy with a girl. She pulls back and says, "But are you gonna respect me in the morning?" You reply, "Yeah, yeah, whatever, of course I will...now, let's get those panties off of you!" What do you think her response will be? What will be her take away about you from that? 'Cause she just tested you, and whether you pass or fail that test will probably be the difference between having sex and not having sex. Depends on the girl. In my experience it doesn't really matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:06 PM
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You have to be shitting me. You think I have the views that I have because I read about them somewhere? I was very familiar with this interpersonal dynamic by, I don't know, at least the time I finished middle school. When I read what RP was saying about 'shit tests', my first thought was, "Yep - interesting that someone actually wrote this stuff out. Definitely something any successful guy is going to need to know." I first learned about 'shit tests' a couple decades ago, when I started to see …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:56 PM
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Alternately, those sorts of people could see a major faction of a major political party reaching out to them, understand that now is potentially their only chance at actual relevance, and choke down any cognitive dissonance they may have while they grasp it. Possible yes. There's plenty of that -- especially the latter -- on the left, and yet it hasn't been roped into the alt right bandwagon. Prejudice against various Others seems to be just as much of a unifying factor, and it's far more exclus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:28 PM
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What rights do you want to take back?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:16 PM
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It doesn't seem like we actually disagree on much - I seem to have misunderstood you, my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:16 PM
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Women who do it are shamed and stigmatized. Why? Not because it harms the man, but because it devalues the accusations of actual victims. Despite the fact that a man is the victim, the primary focus lies on the wellbeing of women. TRP just flips those gender roles. Despite the fact that the victim is a woman, they put the primary focus on the wellbeing of men. TRP is a lot like feminism in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 01:07 PM
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Ha, get jobs, really? So it's basically a club for losers now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:55 PM
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These definitions are very broad. They also happen to back up my more specific definition that relates to wealth. It should be blatantly obvious how wealth impacts the things they talk about: resources, social mobility/class, occupation, etc. Are you being daft or coy on purpose? What are you even talking about? Your definition of status as something that has to be "Universal to everyone" is not supported there, that was the point. Status also applies to the everyday life of average people and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:41 PM
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No, in order for that to be true, I would have had to have someone tell me to look for it. I saw it because I can't not see it. Yes. TRP, PUA etc tells you to interpret what you see in a certain way. You're arguing against something that you haven't even studied up on, apparently, despite the fact that the information is readily available to everyone. Not really. I have read the link you provided before (it is in the sidebar after all). I thought you had something new since you argued against my…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:31 PM
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Got anything to back up this claim? Sure. Simply going to Wikipedia leads you to a definition like the one I use : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_status I agree with you, but those examples of "petty status" are dwarfed by things like wealth (or being well-off, at least) and good health, which I referred to ask "universal" status symbols. (If I didn't mention good health earlier, I'd like to add that to my list). Dwarfed in what way? It's appeal to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 11:41 AM
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:sigh: There are loads of scholarly articles on how humans form social hierarchies. When I have more time, I will find one that illustrates the method clearly enough to be considered a good example. Of course, you don't necessarily have to read about it. Watch a group of friends 'busting each other's balls' or observe a woman's reactions to the question, "Do these pants make me look fat?" or any number of other forms of testing. In the meantime, you seem certain that 'testing' is not part of asc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:50 PM
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Google 'human social hierarchies.' There are all kinds of studies on how humans form and maintain social hierarchies. But mostly, have you ever had a human interaction, or observed human group dynamics? Honestly, I have no idea how this can be such a foreign concept to anyone... I did not ask you to show me studies on how humans form social hierarchies. I asked you to show me studies on testing. Show me where TRP describes it specifically as testing evolutionary fitness. What does 'evolutionary …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:32 PM
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He's in this thread lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:51 PM
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Someone just told me you're a parody of a TRP poster. You're doing a great job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:35 PM
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Ok, so you prefer to define status in a way that most people and most academics would not, suit yourself. Now answer this question: If by status we mean a high position within a given hierarchy that is defined by the rules of a certain culture or sub-culture, do you agree that status by this defintion on average is attractive to women within the culture or sub-culture? If so, we don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:33 PM
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That's brilliant! Poe's law in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:24 PM
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That wasn't my point. I never claimed hot guys didn't get pussy easily. Go back and read again before you reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:24 PM
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"Status not attractive to women" (universal claim) "Look at these examples of status being attracted to women" "No true status is attractive to women" You're just changing the definition of status to suit your argument. Your definition is obviously not the common one - no one would argue that a voodoo priest in Haiti does not have social status, yet it is not universally applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:25 AM
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Are you kidding me? I mean, yes, human behavior falls into social science, which isn't a hard science, but it's a very well-known and studied phenomenon in humans. Really? I've never heard of it. Could you please show me some studies, preferably a metastudy or something (since you said it was well-known)? I'm ready to change my mind in the face of evidence. And it also serves as a way to test others. You think 'play' serves no legitimate developmental function in animals (including humans)? This…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:22 AM
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Obviously hot guys are attractive to women. That doesn't validate any of the ridiculous claims you made earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:10 AM
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Here's a two minute video for you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:07 AM
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Everyone test everyone. It's part of human social interactions. Women and men who may feel a certain amount of sexual attraction towards each other may test in some more specific ways, in some cases, but it's not a 'only some people do it' behavior. The idea that "Everyone tests everyone" has no scientific basis. Teasing and joking around is simply a natural part of human interaction. You do it with kids for crying out loud. The idea that you have to look out for tests has a function for very in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 10:10 PM
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....They're hot, obviously. What a silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 10:01 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:53 PM
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Yeah I know the PUA/TRP idea behind it, and I think behavior motivated this way only applies to a select type of people. I was more interested in what you perceive to be tests, and how much you focus your attention on judging whether or not you are being tested and thinking of how to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:41 PM
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Could you give an example of what you mean by a test?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:28 PM
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I'm not arguing against that. But when you're dating someone there's more to a relationship than simply being attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:27 PM
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Hmm. That's difficult to estimate without having some pictures to choose from. But 40-50% maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 09:25 PM
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I was thinking the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 05:12 PM
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I'd have to see more pictures of the girls. Number 1 looks like she might be very cute, number 2 looks kind of vulgar and number 3 looks like she wears way too much makeup. They're all attractive but not "Top of tinder" attractive. I see more attractive women on tinder every day. I'm surprised the men have dated so few women on tinder, this is contrary to the RP hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 05:11 PM
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Another classic juvenile narrative straight out of the annals of PUA and now in TRP. Most people don't care one bit about clubbing. Bingo. Status is contextual. Most women over the age of maybe 21 don't care about this stuff, but a certain type of women think it makes you the coolest guy ever. These types of women might think political activism is super lame and boring, while other women (who roll their eyes at the guy who knows the bouncer) wet their panties over the politically active guy orga…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:58 PM
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Yeah, this. They forget that status is contextual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:54 PM
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Depends on how they contextualize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:49 PM
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You're thinking of fields like gender studies and sociology. Psychology has debunked the largly ideologically driven nonsense they've been spouting for decades. Watch the "Brainwashed" series from Norway and you'll see that psychology is not very PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaTc15plVs&list=PLaJtMuDnR5KLwrt4z1O8tKmHWmUm3nObV Psychology also tells us that women (as a group) are attracted to power and resources. This does not fit into the feminist/leftist narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:46 PM
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East Europe/Russia then? Very different from scandinavia haha
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 08:31 PM
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but it is universal enough in my cultural surrounding. I have no problem believing that. In my cultural surround this would be regarded as sociopathic/manipulative etc. What cultural surrounding do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 08:23 PM
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If you don't accept science as a superior method of finding out what's true then I don't see any point discussing anything with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 08:20 PM
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So what made you choose to commit to a woman who would expect you to react like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 08:17 PM
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Yeah those are standard red pill theories with no scientific grounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 08:07 PM
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I see. So I assume you have acted like this in a previous relationship. What thoughts would be going through your head when you would act in such a way? What made you commit to a woman like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 08:03 PM
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Yep, and no quite far from it. Why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 07:51 PM
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Evolution is a bit more complex than TRP wants you to believe. A society full of alpha males would quickly collapse, women have evolved to desire different types of men (although some traits are universially desireable).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 07:23 AM
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I don't think it applies to all women though, it's more of a specific subset of women. And women who are very picky about utility usually are frowned upon by other women for being (you guessed it) shallow. I have no problem with status, power and looks being aphrodisiacs - I just have a problem with women who, how should I put it, define a man as nothing but those things. It's like if you were to ask a man to tell you about a woman and he would only describe her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 07:16 AM
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Let me clarify - I think those things are important for a relationship and I do consider them myself. I have my own place which I own in one of the hippest neighborhoods in my city, I've got a masters degree, I have a great and promising career (way ahead of most people my age) and I have a good deal of money for someone my age. It's important for me that a prospective partner wants the same lifestyle as me and doesn't expect me to be some kind of breadwinner. But the extent to which some women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 07:13 AM
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I tend to view it as something they do to not appear slutty both to themselves and you. In some terms they are speaking the truth I think - because they don't sleep with every man they see. However, they probably sleep with every man they are attracted enough to and feel safe enough with on the first night. In one sense I am "Special" and i another I'm not, if that makes any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 06:54 AM
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I definitely like 'the chase.' I get bored if there isn't some challenge. Keeps my game sharp. If what you say is true, prostitution would be way more popular than it currently is. Specifically what do you mean by "Challenge"? That doesn't necessarily represent 'chasing.' I 'chased' most of the women I ever slept with, and the sex always happened very, very quickly. Almost never did I spend much in the way of time or money on them. Could you explain how you chased them? I would get bored quickly…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 06:49 AM
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If you've actually met someone and dated them, I find it very odd that the only thing you mention is the indicators. That's shallow and implies that you look at those rather than the underlying causes. That's what I react to, I find that multiple women do this. Just out of curiousity - I'm assuming you have a good career going for you and you own your own apartment since you expect this in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:44 PM
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This was a married and extremely experienced guy trying to advise me to "lock down" another hot guy. I don't think you can "Lock down" guys. If you're evenly matched looks wise you're likely a relationship prospect for him. On the contrary, if you fail to show interest he will just consider you.. not interested. At least that's what I do and every guy I've ever known after their early twenties (21-23ish). Unless of course he really really likes you. But then you don't need to play any games to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:36 PM
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It's shallow because these are all things that are superficial. IMO the real foundations of a relationship consists of whether you have the same values, the same sense of humor, chemistry, the same goals in life etc. I think most men would agree with me on this. The things above sound an awfully lot like a bunch of utilities you would want a man to provide for you that you do not have yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:20 PM
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First, I'm skeptical of using the claim that Trump outperformed Romney among POC as evidence that the alt right is reasonably attractive to POC. He may have outperformed Romney by a small, barely significant margin, and maybe the Trump/Clinton POC splits just reverted to previous Republican/Democrat POC splits before the Democrats had a candidate who was POC himself. The difference may not be significant, and it may not be caused by the alt right. Fair enough. Second, a big part of how the alt r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:10 PM
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Shoulders, pecs, back, posture and butt = lookin gooooood. And don't forget leg day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:01 PM
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The assumptions about women's behaviors are debatable. You can no more prove them wrong than I can prove them right. TRP is at least telling guys "go, try out this thing that might be right and see if it works for you" instead of denying even the possibility that said thing has any merit. There are literally thousands on studies on human behavior and personality, including sex differences and sexual strategies. They do not support the assumptions of TRP. If you choose to ignore this and instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:59 PM
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I don't know, I've never met a single guy who claims to like the chase. I mean, I like the idea of tension building, and then finally you gain sex and it feels like you've earned it, but it hasn't really been rewarding at all in the instances where I've really had to work for it. Even when a girl made me work for it for a long time because she was actually very conservative about sex and only wanted it if I wanted a relationship (which I didn't with her), it didn't feel like anything special. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:44 PM
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Can attest to this myself. The single best thing I ever did for my looks was lifting. But if you're overweight (or y'know, dadbod chubby like most) your primary concern should be your weight. People talking about building muscle will often talk about needing to eat lots to gain it, but I've never found that to be the case with my body type. Bulking just puts fat back on. But it's not like you need super low bodyfat, you just need low enough bodyfat so that you can wear somewhat fitting clothes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:22 PM
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I don't really agree with that. I think people like you and me don't really understand the alt right. You know Trump got more votes than Romney from POC right? A few weeks ago I was taking a cab that had a Muslim driver. We chatted a bit and to my amazement this guy started talking about how happy he was about Donald Trump winning the American election. It left me completely dumbfounded. I think racists are accepted in the alt right more than other places, but I don't think it's fundamentally ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:09 PM
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In my experience most women who I have had sex with the first night have said exactly that. They just don't want to come off like skanks. And some of them want you to seduce them. Or maybe they think you'll just pump and dump and they want to make you work for it so you prove that you're interested in commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:58 PM
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This chimes well with me. I remember this friend of mine was telling me about this guy she had dated and she started listing all the things she found good about him: He was handsome, he had a great job, he had his own place, he had a lot of friends... All I could think of was "Wtf?". She ended up getting together with another guy though, but still, I find these are incredibly shallow things to look for in a partner. When it comes down to it, I think women are way more shallow than men when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:54 PM
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Looks mostly "Alt Right" to me. Some extreme right elements though, I wasn't aware that such a group would be allowed in a place like reddit, which certainly seems like a very left-leaning site in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:38 PM
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Talking about third world country issues would mean that they would have to ally with right wing leaning people who are critical of islamic cultures. This defeats the entire purpose of modern feminism, which is to create a sense of belonging and direction by defining the western notion of patriarchy and all of it's implications as an enemy that needs to be fought. If you start comparing it to a sports team fan club everything makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:10 PM
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I think on some level they do realize this. These types of women have have become addicted to conflict and fighting for something. It gives them purpose and a sense of identity and belonging. Most women who rage on about things like this usually don't have a lot of other things going on in their lives - what would they do without feminism? They have to keep it going.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:04 PM
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You conveniently only read one half of that sentence. Two can play that game! desire them, not just women. What? I am heterosexual. I only desire women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 06:02 PM
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I don't see why the man in the comic apologizes. You'd have to be in an emotionally abusive relationship to take that kind of behavior. I think BP isn't really about trying to understand at all. It's about being part of a group that fights something evil. What's actually being said isn't as important as scoring "points" or being angry together. TRP in contrast is about making sense of one's own personal frustration and blaming it on "Women's nature". And we're going to get back at them women by …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:59 PM
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So you're saying TRP and feminism is kind of two sides of the same coin?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:55 PM
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If you stop using online dating statistics as proof of this worldview you'll quickly see that real life hookops and relationships do not always follow this rule. Some very particular women are like this, and other women will laugh at them behind their backs for their unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:49 PM
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That's more of a commentary towards society than feminism though. But I am tired of seeing articles by random women who write some (probably not very genuine) account of a discussion with a man who mansplained. I mean yeah some men do talk down to women, but some men (and some women) are just dicks like that. And sometimes maybe you're ignorant and wrong, and hearing a logical rebuttal makes you feel small so you try to reframe it in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:46 PM
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Well obviously you hang around like-minded people. I see a disproportionate amount of feminists in the media writing complete nonsense. PUAs I have met tons back when it was popular. A real life feminist isn't that rare, they're usually pretty vocal about it too. Or maybe I only notice the vocal ones. MRAs I think are scared to come out of the closet. Lots of guys will agree if you bring up discrimination against men though, and lots of men (and even lots of women) will agree that society favors…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:43 PM
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Gender roles in romance haven't changed much. Yeah women now pay for their own drinks etc but they still expect you to initiate pretty much everything after they give you some hints(which is funny - women actually do make the first move with pretty much any man they like, you just have to be observant enough to notice it). I had an FWB that wad a radfem for a while and not even she wanted me to do ridiculous stuff like asking before kissing her or making a move. She wanted me to desire her and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:37 PM
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Impartiality isn't indicative of tolerance. Not sure how tolerance applies here. In the words of the late Christopher Hitchens. "The pursuit of truth isn't about fairness towards both sides, it's about following truth to wherever it leads" Truth led me to not identify with either camp. Bloopers do not. Redpillers only compromise in the face of good evidence. Atleast the non-sycophant EC's or as stated before-- "well-adjusted ones do". I have had some previous accounts (I quit reddit every now an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:26 PM
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It's not banned? Where are the KKK subs then? That's the type of extremism I'm talking about btw, not libertarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:18 PM
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I'd argue that the relevant question is "what's useful?", not "what's true?". The most debatable parts of TRP are the theoretical explanations for women's behavior, e.g. evolutionary psychology. I agree with that premise. But the parts of TRP that aren't useful isn't unobservable evolutionary origins, it's what you say here: But if women exhibit X behavior all the time, the why is not as important as the fact that they exhibit that behavior and Y response is a good way of working with it. The as…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:17 PM
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Some discussion of these four points: 1. Infographics are useful, but if they contain a mix of untrue and true information (like TRP) then the end result will suffer for it. A lot of the TRP ideals and attitudes are not healthy or applicable to most women. 2. This is actually one of the good points of TRP - that you have to maintain your part of the "Bargain" in a relationship. It's a healthy attitude. No rebuttal. 3. There are more differences in personality within genders than between them. As…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:22 AM
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I think that's because TRP attracts unsuccessful men (sex-wise) which isn't a politically leaning factor. On the other hand, bloop attracts a certain type of people who believe they have to "fight evil" and get a rush out of this (typical SJW attitude - no interest in actual honest discussion). Usually you will find this type of people either on the extreme left or the extreme right. The extreme right is mostly banished from reddit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:04 AM
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As someone who doesn't identify with either camp I'll have to disagree here, I don't experience terpers as any more willing to compromise on any idea or admit any wrong than bloopers. I experience terpers as a bit more civil though, and more open to internal disagreement. Bloop comes off much more like a religion where certain things are blasphemous to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:00 AM
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Waitwhat? What exactly are you talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:16 PM
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Sure, I'm not against questioning gender norms. But the "Manspreading" craze wasn't just questioning - it was posting pictures of individual men online without their permission and outright shaming them. Men interrupting women is a far more interesting phenomena because unlike "Manspreading" (explained by the fact that men have genitalia and are on average larger) there is no obvious answer to why men does this that offers a better explanation than gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 10:27 PM
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Ahahaha all but the top 20% men are mercilessly shamed? How does that even happen? Is there a situation where shaming is happening, and the guy asks for mercy, and then the shamer says no?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:24 PM
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I think you were caught red handed trying to deflect the discussion and you're weaseling your way out of it instead of owning up to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:08 PM
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My disbelief has nothing to do with what light it paints women in. You asked me why men would make up such stories, and I believe their motivations would be just that. The reason why I don't believe the stories is that this would mean those girls laugh at the penises of most (95% or something was it?) or all men they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:06 PM
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What specifically do you mean by "Allowed"? Do those men refuse to make space for others when prompted to in any way? Sitting with your legs spread is natural for a man. Because you have a penis with testicles attached
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:01 PM
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This premise unquestionably leads to the conclusion that taking pictures of men sitting with their legs spread is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 03:38 PM
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This is my impression of the sub as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 03:30 PM
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The answer to that question is that TRP is a place filled with genuine misogyny. So I guess your answer is that TBP is a place filled with genuine man hate then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 03:28 PM
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Anyone else find it hilarious how every post on that sub very obviously is written by someone walking on eggshells? It doesn't look like a very good environment for open discussion. And anyone who says anything "wrong" gets downvoted into oblivion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 03:23 PM
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Yes, every vagina is different. No obvious correlation with the size of the woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:45 PM
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To reinforce the idea that modern western women have utterly impossible standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:41 PM
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Stop trying to act cool, be yourself, spend less time on internet forums and more time working on your style, appearance and fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 02:43 PM
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Maybe you're actually smaller than 6 inches then? Statistically if they've banged 30 guys, at the most 1 or 2 of them have had a bigger dick than 6 inches (by any significant amount). Or maybe you have a thin dick, I don't know. Still, it's a shitty thing to say. You wouldn't complain about her boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:19 PM
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Really? How many women have you had sex with who have expressed any such desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 12:03 PM
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In real life? You've actually heard men tell these stories?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:30 AM
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Yeeaaaah you just made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:28 AM
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I'm part of this 5% myself and I have a bit of a different experience. Women absolutely can tell, and they gossip amongst themselves about this. It's not just length though - girth is also a big part of the picture. 2-3 cm in length or girth really makes a difference - try folding paper next to yourself when you're erect in an "average" size and compare. Also the sex feels completely different for many women. Some women who rarely or never vaginally orgasm can do this consistently with me. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 10:08 AM
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This dilemma only exists if you accept extreme TRP principles. Most guys have ok sex lives. If you struggle with dating saying you "go MGTOW" makes about as much sense as quitting a job after you've been fired. Become the man you want to be and you will attract the woman who likes that type of man. Marry someone of equal socioeconomic status (and who also plans on working) and you won't have to worry about being a financial supporter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 09:55 AM
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