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Lol bullshit. I've heard women say this shit constantly. I once joked about myself publicly due to shrinkage and talking about an embarrassing situation (think the George Costanza situation). I now have multiple female "friends" start yelling loudly about my "shrunken dick" after a couple of drinks get in them. They all think it's hilarious to yell in front of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:22 PM
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Yeah, whoever heard of breast augmentation. Women literally never do it. Oh wait... https://people.com/health/breast-augmentation-most-popular-plastic-surgery-facelifts-on-the-rise/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:20 PM
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sex should be reserved for marriage because it's a physical expression of what is supposed to be a real commitment LOL. I really wish you would have just opened with this. It would have saved us both a lot of time here. Good luck with all that in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:39 AM
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To me sex is something that is supposed to be pleasurable but also meaningful Let me guess, you define "meaningful" as some nebulous "connection" or "us touching souls" or some other platitude like that. Adults can have sex for pleasure without "tricking" eachother. It's not my place or responsibility to sit a grown woman down and tell her "Now, sweetie, we're going to have a special hug now, but I want you to know that maybe things won't work out in the long term" I for one have a little more f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 05:38 AM
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No argument there. But the main point here is that, if one were to listen to the vast majority of PPD women, you'd think A doesn't exist whatsoever. Further, PPD women commonly claim that RP men think that A is the rule rather than the exception, which I've literally never seen. They merely claim that A exists outside of the cliche "sugar baby" or "power imbalance" scenarios PPD women love to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:56 AM
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Women don’t need to justify shit. Now do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:50 AM
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No, I'm the school of thought that doesn't accept women framing having sex as if they are raking leaves in the snow. Sex isn't something women "trade", they engage in it for pleasure just like men do. Sell that shit somewhere else. It doesn't fly here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:46 AM
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BZZZT. Sorry - wrong answer. The correct answer was: They fucking gave up after repeated evidence that they will not have success and retreated into porn and video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:05 AM
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The fact that this list of questions is even required should say it all. This is merely grasping for a "reason" these guys are somehow deficient in order to justify women's own insane nitpicking. What "hobbies" are they into? Seriously? When most women's hobbies are netflix and brunch. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:03 AM
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I don't think you know what that word means. My bad. *Predictably lame
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:52 AM
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Subtle insinuation that the other person in the debate is "lying" The height of what counts for a "burn" on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:50 AM
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Ok no argument with any of these points. I would just say that the whole point of RP is to tell men to not be "average" in the first place. If we're talking figures, think of it like this: 10 25 year old women 10 40 year old men 8/10 25 year old women would never date a man more than 5 years older 2/10 25 year old women don't care / prefer it if the man is merely successful and established and, as long as he's attractive, she doesn't care about his age 8/10 of those 40 year old men would prefer …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:44 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm not from the school of thought that thinks sex between two willing partners is some kind of "loss" for one party.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:36 AM
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There are a lot more 40-year-olds who match that description than there are 40-year-olds going around banging 20-year-olds And who claimed otherwise? Does RP tell men "Be a fat slob and you'll have sex with hot young women"? Does TRP tell men "Women love dad bods!" or does it tell men "Don't believe that. If you aren't in shape, STFU and lift before you even think of having a chance"? I mean, 80/20 is known as a "rule" in TRP for a reason. ​ - and the latter don't hang out at PPD anyway. Oh, Ok.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:33 AM
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Every single one of these arguments are some weird attempt to say "men / women - SAME!" As if they get jealous for the same reasons or of the same things. Men and women's jealousy triggers are very different. If you are insisting that they are somehow the same, there's really not much more than can be discussed here. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:52 AM
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If it's such a grey, nebulous area, why does it cause such extreme and absolutist reactions among women on PPD? That's what I'd like to know. In almost every case this subject is brought up you get the same "No women like creepy older guys and if they ever are with them it's because they are sugar babies!!!" arguments. Keep in mind, this is in response to the notion that some younger women will date / fuck older men. It apparently drives some women insane to even contemplate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:48 AM
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Not sure what this is pointing out but my point was, for men, a 38 year old New York lawyer, or a 40 year old Los Angeles actor can still easily bang 24 year olds on the regular if they remain attractive enough. It's people from Hillbilly states that envision some fat, horseshoe bald, dad bodded guy in New Balance, a white polo and cargo shorts with his gut hanging over a grill that can't comprehend that there are established, successful men in their 40's that can and do get younger women wet in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:45 AM
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Me: Maintaining casual contact with an ex from your distant pass to the extent that maybe you help them with some logistical issue occasionally is not a cause for concern, but something to be appreciated. You: OmG!1! BUDDY BUDDY with ur Ex! Ur all Up in their Business! I already expressed that this doesn't apply to situations where there are any potential "entanglements" like there would be with a recent ex, or if any feelings involved. My exact example was that of an ex from decades ago that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:40 AM
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Lol. Women: Those OKCupid studies are bullshit! They don't tell the whole story! Online dating isn't real life! Also Women: Here's an OKCupid study saying women think older men are gross! Teehee! Just stop with this. Men know what TF their own experiences are. I didn't imagine the 20-something girls I dated / had sex with in my 40's. Nobody is here claiming that "most" women don't date in their own social / age range. The point is enough women will happily fuck attractive older men with legitima…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:25 AM
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Women are most attracted to guys similar in age to themselves. Most women could mean 51%, So, yeah. Enough women are open to the notion of dating an attractive older (sometimes much older) man to keep those men from needing to date a baggage riddled woman his own age sometimes into his 50's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:04 AM
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But is that really unique to women? I don't think it is, especially with so many men in this very sub going on ad nauseam about "Chad" and "alpha widows", etc. YES. This particular type of "time and resource" jealousy is unique to women. We are not talking about the male variety because A.) Men's sexual jealousy of other men is well known and accepted, and B.) These men are insecure about "Big Dick Rick" the ex that dumped her that she still pines for, not Beta "Dad Bod" Bob who split the bills …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:02 AM
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Fair enough. I only know what the younger exes I've been with who liked this kind of sex told me about their exes from their own generation. It was not a flattering picture. I also know, from my city that "Kink Community" basically means 90% overweight women in leather with fat bulging out and a bunch of greasy leering weirdos stroking their dicks. It certainly does not look like "fit attractive women opening their legs for a bunch of hot guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 11:31 PM
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We have to decide on PPD: A.) Women care about looks a little bit, but it's mostly about a man's frame, how confident and competent he is, how talented and passionate he is, how much he has his shit together and how special he makes her feel, and so long as he passes the "looks threshold" that it's most important that the man be the steady, strong, caring and charismatic partner she deserves. Women can also "develop" an attraction to an otherwise unremarkable man, over time as she interacts with…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 11:28 PM
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Define "all up in" eachothers lives. If somebody from your past needs help with something, you tell them to fuck off? Sorry, I don't do that, and I will happily tell whoever thinks they are being reasonable to kick rocks. I don't treat people in my life like that unless they have wronged me. It absolutely is a mark of immaturity to think that somebody remaining friends with somebody from their distant past, even an ex (unless a recent ex) is some kind of deal breaker. I've never once met a perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 11:19 PM
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Except for little factors like, you know, testosterone and biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 11:13 PM
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Basically: Men do it too Yes, nobody said men don't rationalize their own bad behavior. We are not discussing men. We are discussing a specific thing unique to many women, which is how they become territorial around other women from your past, even family members. It serves no purpose to talk about how some guy got insecure because a woman's exes dick was bigger. We already know about this and acknowledge it. Then: Not ALL Women Nobody claimed this. The claim was more women than is acknowledged …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 11:11 PM
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This all boils down to the kind of younger women that I am willing to date vs the ones I won't (and vice-versa) Younger women (or any woman) who understands people have a past, and actually respect people who are able to remain civil with people who were parts of their lives in the past without turning into high school drama queens about it (as women of all ages often do) are the only types of women I'll date regardless of age. In my experience, it's the older women who take their baggage out on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:35 PM
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t. There's no contradiction between being a feminist in the streets and a freak in the sheets. Modern feminism is extremely sex positive. Honestly, no I don't. I hate the term, but I just can't imagine the stereotypical "soyboy" slapping, spitting on and choking Suzie while calling her a little slutty fuckdoll without him breaking down into a puddle of apologetic tears no matter how much "affirmative consent" she gives or what paperwork she signed. Even hearing the term "sex positive" (or worse …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:05 PM
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I don't disagree with your assessment of these women being "controlling abusers" but I will say women are woefully ignorant as to just how ubiquitous this behavior is among women in general. A lot of their own friends do it, and sometimes they themselves do it. The issue is that those women will frame it in their own minds as some justified reaction. Which is, honestly, how women generally rationalize an justify just about all of their bad behavior (Hello Amber Heard). Shit, you yourself did it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:57 PM
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But the vast majority of men can lift themselves out of "sexual poverty" and into a status of average sexual normality (5-7 sexual partners in their life, the last being their wife). Ok. This I agree with. I guess I was reading into your post something that wasn't being implied. I do agree that you can go from "no chance" to "a fairly decent chance of eventually having sex a few times" with effort unless you are an extreme outlier. I'm so used to the implication here being that you can enter the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:51 PM
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I think you might be confusing an ex husband who put in his time being a domesticated animal with that "big-dick-bad-boy chad that pumped and dumped her and left her alpha widowed that she still masturbates thinking about" Huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:05 PM
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For me actually, I've noticed younger women become more demanding of dominating / freaky behavior since the Trump era. I actually believe it has as much to do with the metoo movement than Trump. My theory is that because men their own age have such heightened neuroticism that when they meet an older man (or any man) with a truly IDGAF attitude, they find it novel and exciting and want to try out all that stuff that Billy the "respectful male feminist" would be terrified to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:02 PM
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True, and I've experienced those 40+ women who are just looking for sex, which is fine, but even still they just have a darkness about them that's hard to describe. It just feels so... heavy. One thing I've certainly noticed is that older women who have kids and especially daughters are night-and-day less freaky in bed. My theory is that they have a constant specter of "I would never want my daughter doing these degrading acts, so I won't either." Any woman that has ever described herself as a "…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:58 PM
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Do you honestly believe every man can "lift" his way into a life of access to casual sex? While I don't disagree that hitting the gym with purpose and consistency is the best and most reliable way to improve things, "improve things" does not mean you will get anywhere near the results that measure up to the countless hours, months and years you'll often need to spend in the gym. The issue is that success is not commensurate with results because there is no accounting for individual women and cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:53 PM
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I would guess you have really masculine characteristics right? Lol. No. This is truly a ridiculous insinuation as well. "I couldn't possibly hurt him by punching him square in the face" Jesus dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:47 PM
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I honestly get the feeling that seeing an ex as "baggage" is mostly a woman thing. Women get super territorial around other women that they feel "got more" out of you in the past. Men get more territorial about new men around their woman IMO. I think men innately know that a woman's ex likely has very little desire to fuck her again. Since men's territorial is primarily based around sexual access they are less bothered. Women's territorial fangs come out when it is about "emotional cheating" or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:42 PM
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I've also dated women who never talk with their ex husbands but very obviously have residual emotional/psychological problems from their marriage and keep bringing it up. Fucking BINGO. This is it. Women see any presence of "another woman" in your life as "baggage". Hell, I've had women consider my relatively frequent need to help out my elderly mother as "other woman baggage" I'd MUCH prefer a woman with an ex who she deals with occasionally cordially than one who is still seething with hatred …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:38 PM
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We haven't been married for 20 years, she's basically a "longtime acquaintance" at this point. She's been re-married for years I've been in other relationships that lasted longer than that marriage lol She's foreign, and so is her new husband, since their english isn't 100%, sometimes they ask me for help with things like contracts / advice for their business. It couldn't be less of a "threat" or "baggage" if I tried. "Baggage" to me is when you take out your past trauma on your current SO, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:37 PM
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If my ex wife smacked me over the head as hard as she could it would kinda be like " oww godamn" while if I were to do the same I could possibly kill her, as long as I didn't the law wouldn't look at it any different. One of my recent exes was straddling me after we had been out drinking and when I told her I wasn't in the mood to have sex with her, punched me square in the face and broke my nose. The bleeding was so profuse it was terrifying. Of course, I didn't call the cops on her after she s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:44 AM
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As a man in my late 40's with no kids, and a relatively... "youth oriented" career who can, with some consistency date women in their early 30's and even rarely a mid-late 20's girl once in a while, it's not even about the "physical" hotness for me. For me, it's more about how frequent it is for women over, say 35, to have all manner of baggage, anger and trust issues that they unapologetically take out on the men they date via shit tests, demands and neuroticism. This goes double if they are si…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:35 AM
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"IDK, what do you want to eat?" It's unfortunately pretty real and common. Fortunately, this is one area that women have probably improved on in my lifetime. IME, the funnier, wittier, and more willing to contribute ideas types are more common than they used to be. But that could also just be an age thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:43 PM
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It also seems likely to help (force) you to learn that comparing your own limitations to others is a fool's errand, and that you can gain incremental wins to the point that you can do things that just a year previous seemed impossible. This is certainly something me, as a former nerd, have gotten out of lifting. The incremental and "personal challenges" have been absolutely game changing for my perspective. Yes, I still look at guys with way better genetics than me in the gym and think "Damn, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:41 PM
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First, "Dread game" is no relevance in online discussions. Dread game is the simple (and obvious idea) that a man with options can and will leave if the woman doesn't treat him right. This is the exception in most relationships rather than the rule. This is why you see so many women "withholding sex" as a bargaining chip. Because they know that is their power play. A man with 'passive dread' is immune to this. What you are generally seeing is young men's myopia and possibly wishful thinking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:53 PM
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It DOES make you more emotional, more easily moody and neurotic. It also decreases your physical sex drive, and because it does, you start looking at men (in my case) as more of a well rounded deal. Testosterone makes you very horny and boy me would see a hot guy and be pretty much down to get smashed right then and there.Now I see attractive men, or even when I was single and I’m like “ok… that’s nice, moving on”. With estrogen we tend require some kind of emotional or interpersonal thing to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:27 PM
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I also want to try to create a mediation clinic where parents can be taught how to coparent without being toxic and fucking up their child. I’m talking visitation schedules that have to be kept, no skipping out from either party. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:24 PM
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Lol no. That part is just meant to be ironic and funny. I am not and never have been close to a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:19 PM
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I see a lot of men getting milked out of their personhood by womanhood. Women like to use men for validation, protection, and emotional needs, often without reciprocation. I feel seen. And yours is probably one of the most valuable perspectives in this discussion tbh. Side question (forgive me if it's ignorant / irrelevant) - Do you take anything to reduce your T-levels since living as a trans woman and if so, have you noticed any behavioral differences in yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:18 PM
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This is such a great perspective. I live in a city with a large black population. I won't give too much info because it's dox material, but I'm no stranger to the black community in general here culturally and socially. EVEN STILL - I am a human being with preconceptions that are constructed out of superficial visual stimuli. If I see some 3 white guys walking down the street in backwards hats and shorts, I'm going to think "douchey frat bro", if I see a tatted up bald guy in a tight-t-shirt, I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:11 PM
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Just be the IT guy who can also fix a house or a porsche, Lol. That is exactly me. DIY mechanic / autobody and part time apartment handyman various times throughout the years but paying the bills with a tech / creative job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:03 PM
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We can also normalize women pursuing unfortunately biology is probably going to always make that lopsided. And I think this is absolutely ok provided we educate boys and girls on this reality and the inherent pitfalls it creates. We are so dogmatically dedicated to saying "boys and girls are the same" that we can't possibly address the inherent inter-gender dynamics that will not ever go away due to biology. For example, if we accepted that boys hold the burden of being the pursuers, perhaps we …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:59 PM
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Ahhh yes. The legend himself The Bagel Boss. This guy is probably who every woman on PPD imagines they are arguing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:54 PM
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I honestly see my tradesman and mechanic friends having less trouble finding women than programming nerds. You know, this is a good point. That creepy IT guy is in no way at an advantage over the fit, tan and useful guy that can build a house or fix a Porsche. Regardless of degree status or income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:50 PM
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I think if people could step back and "watch" their teenage interactions from afar as adults, some would see that their lasting reaction is disproportionate to the actual event and others would be mortified that they had ever treated other people that way, but hearts and minds don't always work like that and adolescents are sometimes horrible creatures. As somebody who had bad acne, and left highschool after multiple comments (in classrooms, and in front of peers) by girls saying things like "Ew…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:48 PM
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As somebody who has spent most of his life as "Tom" - thank you and take my non-existent award. :) This also feeds into the “I want a man who will cure my trauma from my exes” mentality that so many women have. Many of us grow up thinking about men in terms of how they can fit into our own romantic ideals versus seeing them as their own humans with their own trauma. You literally just described my last 3 dates. It gets worse in your 40's not better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:45 PM
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Accusing men of being gay if they’re not interested in you/sex is homophobic and stupid. Holy shit - I forgot about this one. In my experience, this insult / reaction is like clockwork if alcohol is involved. So much so that I've on more than one occasion had to just say "Yeah, you're actually right" because the alternate version of this "Oh! You're gay!" reaction to not wanting to sleep with a woman is generally way way worse. If a man were to say back to a woman "No, I'm not gay, I'm just not …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:37 PM
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Stop the presses, I learned something on PPD today. Roughly half my drinking buddies are lesbians and I never even thought about this pitfall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:35 PM
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Got it. That does match a bit more. However, I would say that things like the women cheering on that episode of Bill Maher when it was stated that "women won't date men without college degrees" would indicate that "way down" is very subjective. I'd say women generally won't even date across.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:33 PM
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I sympathize with men who have to deal with a lot of rejection. Thanks. This is such a big one. It gets utterly demoralizing and can make it very easy to turn into a nihilistic PoS who just shuts their emotions completely down as a survival mechanism. Young men really need some kind of preparation for this. I think organized sports are a good way to do this, but not all kids (like me) were good at those. There really needs to be a regimented method to prepare young men for the very frequent reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:32 PM
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any dude can hear it and internalize it. It sucks that it's so normalized. Great great great point. Personally, I believe this is also a huge problem when it comes to the entire "collective guilt" narrative that has been applied to men and boys for the past 10+ years. Terms like "rape culture", "the male gaze" etc are terms rarely used with nuance in the social media era. Boys internalize that, and it manifests as shame, anxiety and self hate because those same boys invariably feel some of the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:28 PM
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Successful, accomplished women are attractive to any man who isn't insecure. Ah the old "He's just intimidated by me" when it's really "I'm an annoying type-A, combative See You Next Tuesday who will berate and belittle my man on the regular" The only time it is unattractive is when the woman overvalues herself because of it. So... 95% of the time. She should also realize that a successful woman doesn't have the same appeal as successful men (which is one of the most desirable traits in men). So…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:23 PM
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I need my partner to be more than an ATM with a toolbox. That may be true, but your lizard brain says you ALSO need him to be those things to feel attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:19 PM
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The issue here is that a job and education is commensurate with results. You can almost always apply the "harder you work the better your results will be" That is NOT the case with the nebulous concept of "sexual market value" and further, a man's sexual market value is so all encompassing and largely based on immutable traits beyond his control there is truly no comparison. This is the cause of the disparity. Just about any woman can get a career and consistently fuck guys casually. Very few me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:14 PM
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Most of my female friends make more than their husbands and nobody has ever said a word about it. ... Women just aren't willing to date down like a lot of men will. Can you make these two declarations compatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:12 PM
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In the 90's things were definitely "better" but they were always way worse than other cities for a slightly above average man (me) for a variety of reasons. Large gay and lesbian population means dating for hetero people can be... weird. Heterosexuals can't assume anything and as such are a bit more tentative in encounters. Despite being small, many of the neighborhoods are divided by crazy hills and public transportation here is awful. There is no "everybody uses it" thing like the Subway in NY…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:59 PM
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Not being flippant, but maybe you can encourage other women to "do better" and open their mind to this possibility rather than demonizing and shaming it at every turn?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:50 PM
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Thanks for sharing. My area seems to be a shit show I guess. Need to move to NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:49 PM
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"Look at all these rubies and sapphires I have to sort through before I can find a diamond! My hands hurt!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:32 PM
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The amount of women on PPD who claim PORN is the devil's work and ruins men indicates that this is a woman problem. Women want to keep their monopoly on pussy because they know how much leverage it gives them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:26 PM
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There are a fair number of men who would not be fulfilled by seeing prostitutes, but removing stigma or preferably outright normalizing prostitution would go a long way to curtailing the amount of sexual frustration we are seeing now. Men should be able to talk about seeing prostitutes as a stress reliever the same way women talk about going to a massage or 'mani pedi' after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:25 PM
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change the convention that men should always pay (which requires men to stop being thirsty but i digress). Nice dodge here to frame men's "thirst" as the sole issue rather than women's innate desire to feel "protected and provided for" as the real issue. But, of course, we can't ask women to look within themselves for their own "problematic" thoughts. Nope. legalize and destigmatize prostitution as a better option for men who can’t or don’t want to make a go of it with women (legalization also m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:22 PM
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San Francisco is "walkable" and is a hellscape for dating as a man. It's about the demographics and culture as much as anything else. I'd say LA is far better for a single man than just about anywhere in the Bay Area, and LA is the most car-centric city on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:16 PM
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Those people complaining about dating in NYC have never set foot in the Bay Area lol. People actually interact with eachother in NYC (albeit in a blunt way, but they do). New York social life has far more (attractive) women than most, which also helps. People aren't nearly as clicked up and wrapped up in whatever sub-group they are in the Bay Area as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:15 PM
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I'm in a similar demographic to you, but what I'd ask is what do the women who are giving you sex and time look like and how does it unfold? For me, a woman of a similar age (40+) who has kids (I don't / won't have kids) seem pretty willing to have sex 1-2 times, but they have so many weird baggage-driven criteria for "dating" that this as far as it goes (fine w/ me really) Getting younger / hotter women is still "hard mode" just as always though. That's just my experience though. Might be relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:06 PM
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Yea that’s nature.. In the animal kingdom, males fight for females..some species will fight till their death. This you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:50 PM
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Yeah, it's almost like that - but it's far more like they are way more predictable and similar in their sexual selection process than they are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:15 AM
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So, under your version of a prehistoric lawless sexual free market, you feel that you get to 'choose' the 'attractive man that will fight for you'? How about 'the strongest, most violent man who will take what he wants and remove anything in his way'? Which of those do you think is the more likely scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:10 AM
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I actually rarely see any women say things like “age gaps are ALWAYS bad” on here. Ahem... https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xgwj9k/would_most_collegeaged_women_be_willing_to_date_a/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:07 PM
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That's cool. I'll look into her. And to be clear, you would indeed have sex with Don Draper, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:05 PM
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I don't know who that is, but I've never met a woman (even hardcore feminists) who, after a couple of drinks, didn't eventually break down and admit "Yes, Yes I would fuck Don Draper"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 10:19 PM
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I get that. But no woman on PPD ever says "I'm just sharing my experience... large diversity of women's attraction... etc" when it comes to anything they deem "problematic". Have you not noticed that, on PPD, women never admit to liking the following even though every man (and common sense really) proves that many many women do go for these things? Power Imbalances (Nurse dating doctor, Barista dating lawyer) - NO women like this! They do it because muh exploitation and manipilation! That's all!…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 10:17 PM
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I’m pretty sure a lot of dudes wouldn’t. They’d claim it, but they’d shirk away. That's a good point actually and one I've been in myself. As much as I love MFF threesomes in porn, the few I've been involved in IRL, I've been a nervous wreck and couldn't get it up. I learned something today. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:36 PM
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I'm talking about fucking. Most men would fuck Riley Reid or Adriana Chechik, even if they wouldn't have an LTR with her. And that's the point. Many women would fuck those hot psychopaths, but would never admit it because it would shatter their virtuous just-world / plausible deniability shields.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:32 PM
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Huh? The point here is that there is no disparity between what men claim to be attracted to and what they actually are. No man is out here is hiding the fact that they'd bang Adriana Chechik or Sasha Grey despite the insane acts they've participated in. Lol what tf does this have to do w/ Alimony? Alimony involves paying for a woman you are no longer married to, not taking some hot girl on trips that's actively fucking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:30 PM
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Lmao. Congratulations, you are now an honorary man. Your Red Pill certificate of membership is in the mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:27 PM
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The gaping flaw in this argument is that many many women notoriously actually do fuck hot, sociopathic and misogynistic men on the regular. The constant refrain of "iTs fAntAsY!1!" sounds like hamstering. It might not apply to you personally, but a metric-shit-ton of women would happily fuck these guys and history (both recent and ancient) proves as much. Not sure why this has to be hand waved away. It's part of women's darker nature which - oh I just remembered - according to PPD women, this do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:24 PM
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I love when women say this shit about a man that millions of women swoon over, and then expect us to believe women on PPD when they say "NO women don't like [insert thing they don't like] men!!" (insert older, guys who watch porn, misogynists, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:21 PM
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But men would gladly fuck those women IRL if given the chance. Would women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:20 PM
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Same as a good amount of men swoon on pornstars who accept the most degrading acts, but would never date such a pornstar IRL. But every man would fuck those women if given the chance. Is it your contention that women would fuck these men but not "date" them if given the chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:19 PM
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Would I go anywhere near that shit in real life? Hell no. Just about every man who has had a friend like this could tell you very simply, while you might not, many many women will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:18 PM
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Yep. Men aren't starting fan clubs dedicated to Amy Dunne from Gone Girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:17 PM
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Do those men spend every waking moment telling the public they don't actually like that though? That's the fundamental subject at hand here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:16 PM
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Eagerly awaiting this answer, but I predict non-stop hamstering. Just about any man would at least bang the most tatted up crazy-eyed cock gobbler for the sexual experience alone. I distinctly remember girls openly getting wet for Ramsay Bolton not to mention a whole industry built around Christian Grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:15 PM
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Oh I see. So, this is precisely like the whole "I'm just citing urban crime statistics!!!" argument made by other hate groups. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:45 PM
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On a personal level, I absolutely do. On a societal level, you'd have to be willfully blind to not see the impending shit-show that will come with millions of aimless men with no romantic prospects and no purpose in life outside of simping for women. Most men have a biological instinct if not need to feel needed by, women to protect a family / tribe, to provide for a family and to fuck women. Yes, our civilized brains keep that our baser impulses in check depending upon the circumstances, but if…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:34 PM
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In all honesty, this just read like word salad to me. I'm speaking as plainly and honestly as I can with no ulterior motive outside of sharing the naked truth as I (and many other men) see and experience it. But, I agree, there's not much point in having dialogue with somebody who sees the very issues you discuss as "non existent" and labels any attempt to discuss it as "black pill / incel" rhetoric. I'd only say this - If you don't see how this kind of shouting down, shutting down, dismissing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:31 PM
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As somebody who grew up with 3 older sisters, and have lived around nothing but women most of my life - this is not the average experience. There is something that's missing from this equation. Hopefully you can find somebody in your life that will, for lack of a better word, "Red Pill" you on what TF is actually going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:27 PM
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Absolutely, IMO therapy is first and foremost there to help a person do battle against their own demons, insecurities and tendency to be their own harshest critic. It helps a lot for that no doubt, and by broad extension can make a person more easy-going and relaxed and improve their chances at successful interactions with others. But, for men, far and away the benefit therapy has is to stave off the inevitable feelings of worthlessness and anxiety that goes along with being the gender that is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:42 PM
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I didn't assume you were fat, it just reminded me that this was another one of the very few deal breakers women face, and even that one isn't really a deal breaker. If you've asked out 4 men and been rejected, I have 2 things to say: 1.) Good for you. I mean that. The world needs more women like you that will put it on the line. Facing rejection is terrifying for men too, despite what is "expected" of them. The fact that you are breaking the norm by doing this is admirable. 2.) You are an outlie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:37 PM
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This may sound hyperbolic, but the only logical solution based on these positions would be to literally castrate any undesirable men (physically or chemically) before puberty so that they do not experience a normal male sex drive and thus don't experience the resulting angst and despair from it. As I've said before, if "pray away the gay" doesn't work, why would you think you can simply "talk" men out of their all encompassing sexual imperative? It hasn't happened in thousands of years of record…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:34 PM
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o mens reason for existing is to get what’s between my legs…. A large portion of it yes. Have you studied human evolition and history? For y’all to talk shit about simps the ego boosts that happen here! I mean y’all gas women up daily! Define "y'all" because I sure don't and I encourage other men to avoid this at all costs. Of course I say it flippantly of all the things happening in the world an incel not getting pussy is the LEAST of my worries. The idea that all men are on the side of the inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:28 PM
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I forgot that I did leave out "don't be fat" from the list. Even that is optional for women most of the time. Oh and how many men have you asked out?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:13 PM
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Would you actually like me to list the number of social programs and charitable organizations that are specifically if not exclusively geared towards women? And women don’t NEED men to do those jobs, they could do them if it was worth it. Currently the pay and conditions aren’t worth it to attract them. LMAO. Yes. Starbucks and Forever 21 sure pay a lot better than sewage treatment, oil rig, garbage collection and plumbing. Nobody, not even other women would defend this laughable position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:09 PM
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depending on men not actively hurting us Which men? And who do you expect to protect you from those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:08 PM
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No argument there. Therapy is helpful in many ways, but I really don't think it's helped me attract women. It's mostly helped me not beat myself up over rejections and romantic failures. Valuable, to be sure, but not a direct correlation. I suppose, in the sense that it has allowed me to persevere through countless rejections and dry spells until my next romantic successes, it has helped me do that rather than give up and wallow in despair. Also, when I go to therapy, I regularly vent and say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:06 PM
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women are miserable in relationships with men because of how men CHOOSE to behave. Wrong. It's in women's nature to be miserable and complain. If nothing real exists they will invent things. Look at the increasingly vague and laughably trivial concepts put out by modern feminism as hysterical grievances that men must address. Look at the endless articles written about "manspreading" or "sexist air conditioners" Any man who has tried to play this "improve and do better" as a response to a woman's…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:01 PM
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Wait, are you seriously claiming: - Men are not justified in not wanting to date high N-Count women - Women are justified in not wanting to date virgins? Has the womengoodmenbad kool-aid really become this strong?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:57 PM
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No you just dont understand fundamental differences between men and women. Exactly. When I read stuff like this I realize the educational system and feminism has actually fundamentally failed women as much as men with how clueless this generation of women are about the basic biological realities of male sexuality. It's depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:51 PM
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Loves brutal scientific truths and tells men to literally "fight eachother for women" Turns around and says "b-b-but sex is meaningless! What about LOVE AND RESPECT?!?!" 2/10 Trolling at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:49 PM
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So the argument is for a return to the sexual imperatives and brutality of nature? I don't think you'd like where that leads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:47 PM
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"Pray away the straight" Great plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:46 PM
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get ready for a date and self grooming You just listed the only 2 things women should do to attract a mate, and even those are various degrees of optional. You also forgot step 3: Exist. Would you like me to list the things a man must do to even have a chance at attracting a mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:42 PM
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Lol There is zero comparison between male and female strip clubs. There is no girl sitting in a dark corner with a sweaty brow and unwavering stare fingering herself at a Chippendales. Ask any female stripper the shit she's caught men doing in the club and you'll snap out of this notion of equivalency real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:39 PM
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So because women now don’t NEED men it’s lopsided and ‘ridiculous’. Yes, because human software is unchanged from a time in which women most certainly did need men to occasionally protect them from Saber Tooth tigers and constantly protect them from other threats when they were vulnerable during pregnancy. The more we subsidize female frailty (quotas, lower thresholds for military physical requirements, welfare programs, etc) the more this disparity will continue to grow. I'm not for a moment su…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:27 PM
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Therapy doesn't empty your balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:23 PM
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Another reason why "The Red Pill" is the perfect metaphor: Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebru…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:22 PM
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Is women's mental health and wellbeing dependent on men protecting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:19 PM
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Yes. If you are familiar with biology, human evolution and the history of social upheavals, , this is absolutely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:18 PM
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You say this flippantly, but take a look at a history book where large numbers of men have nothing to live for. Do you see positive things happening? When there is no war, no great struggle, no crystal clear purpose left for men (as is the case today), yes, Pussy is precisely what can placate men, as it has been since the dawn of man. Many women think men's "clear purpose" is to cater to and "protect" them, but men have never and will never do this without a social reward for doing so. The curre…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:14 PM
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Look at history. Masses of frustrated and aimless men have a way of making things worse for everybody, most of all women. Simply saying "get better" is not a solution. It's a cop-out and not dealing with systemic issues. This is like telling a homeless person "don't be poor"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:10 PM
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Men are not women. Men are sex driven. This will not change. Telling men to "change your nature" is not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:09 PM
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The fuck did I just read? How is this not hate speech? My god.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:06 PM
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That's an easy one: They have financial freedom via work opportunities or welfare systems They are pacified by social media and a society that tells them they are great no matter what They can still get sexual validation from a man far out of her physical league at the drop of a hat Does anybody honestly think men wouldn't take that deal if they could?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 05:05 PM
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We've arguably been more successful at this now more than ever. That's a good point. Probably since the 60's, science and technology has progressed in parallel with the supercharging of hypergamy. But, human beings have a tendency to get bored, and that boredom is beginning to get worse. The novelty of those distractions was what was truly preoccupying lonely men, not the distractions themselves. Things will get less "fine" year after year from now on. a social reckoning within 5-10 years when m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:55 PM
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Correct, but comfort and peace clearly does not = human happiness. It should be dead obvious to anybody who studies human history that when a large group of human runs out of clearly identifiable external enemies to fight, it turns on itself which eventually leads to the collapse of that society or it succumbs to a strong man / dictator as last gasp effort. It's not totally linear, but Rome gives lots of examples of this: Roman Republic -> Peace -> Mass Inequality -> Civil Wars -> Caesar / Augus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:50 AM
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This. I have nothing but contempt for people who outright monetize loneliness. That goes for grifting PUA Guru's as well. Escorts and Prostitutes are the only ones I do feel provide a net positive as they are at least emptying a guy's balls and making him a more calm, pleasant person at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:38 AM
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Not in our lifetimes. The issue with all this "men need to do better" crap is that it ignores how hypergamy works. When it comes to men, women don't desire "better" they desire "the best" and what is "the best" changes relative to what the average is. Further, even when you are dealing with bare minimums, women want a man who outdoes them in just about every way: height, strength, confidence, assertiveness and income. If every man became 6 feet tall, women would consider that height "short" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:29 AM
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So basically you’re admitting that men can’t succeed in a free market. They need a giant patriarchal thumb on the scales in order to get women. Kind of pathetic, no? Do you honestly believe women are operating in a "free market" and not a wholly subsidized and controlled market via welfare benefits, hiring quotas, simps, and countless social programs and charities that are focused solely on their needs while simultaneously protesting and shutting down any fraternal organization or male-centric b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:59 AM
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this you? After all, he was tall where it truly matters: DOWNSTAIRS!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:42 PM
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After all, he was tall where it truly matters: DOWNSTAIRS!!! So, instead of judging men by one immutable trait completely beyond their control, you are judging them by another. Meanwhile "don't be fat" is deemed superficial and shallow when men have that preference even though it is 100% mutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:36 PM
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These questions are useless since you will invariably get the most rabid idealogues responding (ie horse-shoe feminist neo-puritans or no-fap weirdos). Everybody else who has a casual / normal relationship with porn (ie watches it occasionally to fill a need) doesn't GAF. I've occasinally watched porn with plenty of girlfriends, a couple sometimes liked to watch *while* fucking. Every woman IRL who was some weird Anti-Porn crusader always sucked in bed. Like when you fucked them you could feel t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:31 PM
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It's just part of the ever growing Male Loneliness Industrial Complex along with Twitch and Instathots. These women can and do gleefully cash in on growing male sexlessness, and their behavior is cheered on by other women as admirable (as seen in this thread). They do all this while at the same time framing the men who consume their product as creepy exploiters because they "objectify women". So, women simultaneously create and propagate a product to a desperate demographic all while looking dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:23 PM
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