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Yeah man. Tell us how it ends up
/r/seduction15/08/26 04:29 PM
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Good for you man. I was exactly where you was years ago. I can't do that shit no more. It was just torture on my self esteem
/r/seduction15/08/26 04:23 PM
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Terrible
/r/seduction15/08/26 03:37 PM
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I'm proud of you. I gave up on cold approach recently. I was never good at talking to women and I approached alot to learn and get good so to speak but I never knew how insanely hard it was to get yesses until later
/r/seduction14/08/26 06:36 PM
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You guys all say that. I don't believe most of you. It just depends on how hot the guy is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:32 PM
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Yes unfortunately to women. That's why women complain about Gender roles I laugh because guys are under more scrutiny to adhere to gender roles than women will
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:30 PM
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Which is ironic because most men don't cold approach and the idea that women are also chickenshit just like men doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:29 PM
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Who's afraid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:28 PM
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Added nothing to the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:27 PM
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"Where do you get this from? Since when do we see a man as less masculine because he doesn’t make the first step? We’re in 2026." This has ALWAYS been the case even in 2026
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:27 PM
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So why aren't most women lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:42 PM
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So women DONT bring value to womens lives? Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:55 PM
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I don't benefit directly per se. I just run the risk of women going ape shit. I have no internet advantage other than women expect it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:08 PM
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Not enough to get most men to join you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:07 PM
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Dude did you not read what I wrote? My comment is a direct contradiction to yours. They WANT to pay Because they are under the delusion that it makes them appear more manly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:12 PM
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I will when women start dating other women exclusively Ill wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:01 PM
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1. ok so if a dude has an idea he’s making more, then the dude should pay? I know, no one can know for certain, but if you’re full time and she’s a part time waitress for example, you’re probably making more. So in that instance a guy should pay? Imo. I think he shouldn't be obligated to pay. But if they discussed beforehand that she wants to go and he's saying my treat then yes " so if a woman does ask a guy out, should he expect her to pay?" If we are going off women's rules than yes. But the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:01 PM
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Yeah. I agree but that's also a problem. Modern society and progressive. But can't progress beyond ancient gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:48 PM
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It's funny you say that. Because women don't pay anything half of the time. So most women are inadvertently dating cheap men? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:46 PM
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Well obviously if they take those jobs knowing this they don't care about the pay long term
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:44 PM
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No. I don't like alot of freeloader women. But the reality is. Alot of women in the west have inadvertently..... Freeloader personalities. Not because they are all inherently bad but because bad women and trick dudes enforce that thinking. That doesn't mean I don't like the women I'm going on a date with. I just don't enjoy the idea of paying itself just because I'm the man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:44 PM
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Id actually push back here. I think the overwhelming majority of men DO like to pay. They (incorrectly) think that it earns more cool points from the women and the women thinks he's a more dominant when he does. They unfortunately don't know that paying for dates does absolutely Nothing for women in terms of attraction. They just expect you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:41 PM
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That's the majority of women in the west unfortunately. And men don't have enough options to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:39 PM
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I don't even know how you made the connection. If I'm acting like a gentleman when I'm not youd think THAT would be a lure.. So acting like a gentleman is luring but not acting like a gentleman is luring? Consistency: NONE
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:38 PM
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50 dollars is too much for the most part. Id say stick to coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:31 PM
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"You're actively sabotaging your own chances by behaving like a cheap fuck." The only person being a cheap fuck is the women here. But I can understand in their eyes it may look like that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:30 PM
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"not really. women who try to enter male dominated fields are often harassed, talked over, go unpromoted, and so on. it's not as easy as "just go into tech and earn a man's wage." The alternative is don't try at all. Somebody has to do it. So they have to suck it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:28 PM
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But that theory is not technically right. Women have the LUXURY of only choosing men that pay. So it seems that men who pay get relationships. When it reality their alot of guys that are broke that still get relationships but again. These guys have alot of game, social skills, or way of carrying themselves to where they can get girls in spite of not having money But these guys are rare
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:27 PM
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Id argue most people aren't going to be as willing if people keep taking advantage of their kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:26 PM
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Most men are still gonna pay unfortunately. Because it's been trained to them since a young age and they know how offended women get if you ask to split...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:24 PM
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Honestly. Gonna sound contradictory. But I pay. But not because I WANT to. It's just an INSANELY low amount of women that don't get in their feefees(feelings) if you don't. I live in America. And I hear going Dutch is more common in Europe. But in the States it's near unheard of. Women are insanely materialistic here so it's not common. But I keep dates VERY cheap. Coffee, park walks, or Cheap Liquor. That's it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:20 PM
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"your idea of this shows a distinct lack of gentlemanly quality." Your genjutsu doesn't work on me. I could give two craps about not appearing gentlemanly "the wage gap is because women-dominated fields are regularly undervalued and underpayed. i think that's still pretty valid." Valid but those women can join more male dominated fields where they can achieve that success and money
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:16 PM

It?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:04 PM
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Most guys can't Easily get an ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:00 PM
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I'm a guy and I agree. We would cheat more
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:00 PM
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Which begs the question of why aren't they? Leave this poor men alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:58 PM
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Answered way quicker than the guy above you could in 3 paragraphs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:51 PM
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This is like telling a homeless who hasn't eaten food in days to just thinking about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:50 PM
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Dude just stop lying
/r/seduction06/08/26 08:47 PM
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That is highly dependent on what we are talking about. And many people in general can be dishonest about things. Which is why I go after actions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:50 PM
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I'm not saying she's lying I'm saying she's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:49 PM
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Well I can say the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:30 PM
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Based on what though you haven't given good reason for it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:23 PM
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Ok I see we are not living in reality anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:23 PM
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It probably has something to do with the way you approached
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:22 PM
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I wonder where you live because most places I know people intervene
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:21 PM
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To each it's own That's mostly just a difference between us men... we do it because we simply don't have a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:20 PM
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"Most women are not open to cold approach, even if they would fantasize or utter phrases like you mention." Yep I don't agree at all If you're telling me that if a very ATTRACTIVE man was available and approached a girl whom she liked that she wouldn't want that to happen or be extremely open to that happens is insanity. I know it's not real because the attractive male friends I do have that get women from cold approach tell me all the time that alot of those women will remark that the guy made …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:13 PM
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So that doesn't change that much regardless of whether or not you approach
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:02 PM
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If they are always desperate regardless of approach then men being desperate was NEVER a problem despite you claiming it was
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:26 PM
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No because this is a bull crap argument the idea that a woman cannot figure out a guy's intentions for solely sex is just strictly nonsense If you're saying that men can be sneaky and not be as overt so it can be hard for women to read sure. But.. A. Most men are not smooth enough to do that let alone attractive enough to do that B. That happens REGARDLESS of if women approaching or not. So a woman approaching has almost no bearings on whether or not a guy will do that anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:18 PM
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Again yeah we majorly disagree because if you're talking about most men approaching women then yeah we both agree on that But the idea that women don't prefer ANY men they don't know hitting on them Regardless of attractiveness then I'm gonna call Major cap on that. You may know a lot of women. I have no way of knowing how many you know. But I know way more than enough that will flat out say out of their mouths that they are tired of men not approaching them. But this is just women speak for I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:12 PM
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Logically, desperate people will take anything, men are very vocal about that, and women don’t want to be anything" This was literally you a few comments ago
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:04 PM
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I'm not calling everyone who disagrees with me a liar tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:47 PM
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Well I think that would just be simply you though the idea that the majority of women have not been interested in hitting it off with a guy they were physically attracted to is not even remotely close to being true Honestly women trying to promote that idea kills me because it's extremely false as well The default state like you said is regardless of gender So realistically making a first move is something that one will come to if they feel like the other party won't notice them But the reality …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:30 PM
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I could care less what it sounds like to you that's the truth Just like women enforce the men are predators if you leave them be arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:27 PM
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Why does it have to be a problem for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:26 PM
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"I think guys don't understand how brutally humiliating it is to a woman to be overtly rejected. The female social matrix is pretty nasty on this. Not saying rejection is easy for guys, but it ain't the same." You're not necessarily explaining why a woman getting rejected is a hell of a lot worse than a guy getting rejected because a guy getting rejected is brutally humiliating just as well Only thing you can really go off of is that you're saying that it's down to female social matrix which isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:26 PM
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That is absolutely a myth You said that this is how an ugly man acts when he gets any amount of money... THAT sentence. Is a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:24 PM
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I don't understand why you keep asking me these questions like I know you personally That's something that you wouldn't like then simply say that asking rhetorical questions like I already know you just gets us absolutely nowhere
/r/seduction05/08/26 03:23 PM
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That is absolutely false and then you're being disingenuous when you say that There's absolutely a way to figure out that a man only wants you for sex because usually he will ask for it or only be interested in things that results and quick casual sex Honestly I think this response is almost ignorant in a nutshell The fact that you as a woman don't know if other women can tell if guys want sex almost feels like you're trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:22 PM
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Interested is a whole different thing entirely to prove but will they usually intervene if a guy is opening harassing a woman in public yes they will intervene And if we are talking about women approaching men then the latter of men approaching you is outside of the conversation that would inherently mean that you would encounter dangerous guys anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:21 PM
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Ballpark?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:20 PM
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So then that's a totally different conversation I wasn't having
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:22 PM
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And how many men did you approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:22 PM
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"it's rare because we never see men that are attractive enough to us to want to approach them." Are you seriously not reading? I clearly said on the rare chances a woman DOES find an attractive man in public she still won't approach anyway. So again that's clearly false It's literally a meme of women recording men in public that they think are attractive and won't approach them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:21 PM
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Some control. Not full control. If your argument is that you approach and you increase your risk of harassment then yes you can control where you are approaching and getting harassed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:17 PM
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"Lying about what? Most people agree that women who approach have are at advantage most of the time." No they don't. This entire post disproves that. The overwhelming majority of women are saying they are NOT at an advantage approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:16 PM
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No. For most women. Do I expect them to ever do it? Of course not. Too much ego on women part. But if I had to say it...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:15 PM
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Id argue it needs to be in more condensed places. Walking down the sidewalk isn't that condensed unless you live in the Newark or York area It has a place maybe in grocery stores, non loud bars, and maybe like a lounge
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:14 PM
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I always thought the he didn't put in effort argument was dumb as well because many women by their same logic aren't interested in these men because of the lack of effort they put in and on top of that many men won't approach for a ton of reasons. Number 1 could be because they don't wanna get rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:13 PM
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"But women don't have to so why would they?" Again. Making my point for me. They wont because they have the luxury to wait. Which is my point "I think what you are missing is it is EXTREMELY rare for a woman to see a guy that she thinks is so attractive that she wants to just cold approach him" Again. A point I ALREADY made. It's very rare that a woman is gonna want to approach PERIOD. because women don't like sticking their neck on the line. Hell men don't either. Men approach not because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:11 PM
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You get to finally pick the men you want instead of relying on them to approach you You get better quality men Guys are more impressed when you approach You're more likely to get a genuine connection and more likely to get a yes than a guy will
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:07 PM
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Didn't say or imply they were. They were just less likely to only go for the overly super attractive model babes. Especially since most ugly men aren't rich
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:05 PM
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Sorry it hasn't. I wouldn't write if off for women completely tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:04 PM
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Where was the setting?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:02 PM
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I'm saying a cop out from never having to initiate. Because it's easier to say I don't have to do it because I'm not interested. Just like if I said Im not interested in approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:01 PM
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"Who cares if a guy who isn’t interested in me is impressed? Seriously? Even if it does, it just makes things awkward between us after he rejects me." Why the hell are you going off the assumption that the guy you approach isn't interested in you? For making a massive assumption just to make your point better "Well yes, but again, if he’s not attracted to her (which has been my experience every single time) then it’s still a net loss." That's a gamble you make any time you make the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:44 PM
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Completely different story though How do we come from ugly guys when they have a little bit of money to ugly guys to when they are rich? I don't know if you looked around like you but Rich guys act like that regardless of what they look like
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:42 PM
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Well realistically speaking on a general basis women don't usually approach men at all so maybe you're just a huge anomaly. But most women aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:33 PM
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I'm just saying that in many cases, women don't approach because the fear is stronger than the want. I'm sure men are afraid too but for different reasons. At least you're physically stronger, can't get pregnant and aren't the one being penetrated so sex feels less vulnerable, a lot of men take that for granted." I completely get that but I'm saying women aren't fated to be a fuck buddy for men just because they approached
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:33 PM
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Men don't want to initiate either. But they do it anyway Not because they want to But because they feel they have to. Because they don't the luxury of women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:31 PM
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"I don't and have never been interested in cold approach. Neither have the overwhelming majority of my friends." That's extremely easy for you to say. Because it's an easy cop out. I'm a guy. And I don't have alot of interest in cold approach. I do it anyway because I don't have the special privileges of the other sex to hit me up everyday like women do "As for initiating with warm approach. I do. I linger in proximity to them and flirt. I hint we should hang out. I will do nothing more direct t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:30 PM
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Id argue you haven't approached enough men to make this statement
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:24 PM
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If a woman wants to. She will
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:22 PM
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Who said they did? I said women were lying for a big reason they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:22 PM
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Because if they exhibit signs that they only want sex then you don't have to immediately keep seeing them to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:21 PM
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Good for you. But I'm talking in general And of course it's easy for women to write it off because they don't want the responsibility of approaching. Because nobody likes extra responsibility. Id argue men don't either. They do it because they have special privileges to not care
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:20 PM
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Like, they've never spoken, and don't even know each other's names, but she's been watching him and building up the courage for months. Sounds like guys approaching doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:19 PM
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You kinda proved my point in the first paragraph. Men and women don't like approaching but the men approaches more because he doesn't have the luxury to wait like women do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:17 PM
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I do think it's laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:17 PM
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You're not telling me any secrets. I know women will go after guys they want.. My proposition was to cold approach those guys and initiate more because women even with guys they like do that rarely..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:16 PM
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That doesn't mean a woman has to be placeholder just because she approached
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:15 PM
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If women don't care enough then do they care about the men they actually date? Based on you and many womens responses then that seems like no.. So women are all dating men they are insanely meh about and aren't attracted to them? Kinda makes my point on why they should approach
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:15 PM
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"How are you going to complain that other people aren’t reaching out to you first and they’re lazy for it when you’re also being lazy and not initiating?" Ninja the lack of self awareness is on you? When did I tell you that I don't initiate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:14 PM
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"If women do the approach how would the filter out the shy and socially awkward men?" Women will grant you being shy and socially awkward if they like your personality or are physical attractive to you all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:12 PM
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Play coy like they always do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:12 PM
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Simple. If you don't want fast sex. Don't sleep with him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:11 PM
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Very VERY rare that they actually do. And I'm talking about those insanely rare cases
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:11 PM
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Equalizing approaching could be good for both genders, but I would be wary of doing it myself. I have seen men repeatedly, over and over again, state that they have no standards, would fuck or date or enter a relationship with literally any woman who was willing. In that context, a positive response to a female cold approach literally means nothing. Speaking for myself, I don’t want to have random sexual exchanges with men, no matter how attractive they are. So, given that, if I have an interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:10 PM
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Or you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:09 PM
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"But in an unmediated and unregulated dating market, where an approach could be about anything from a threesome hook up invitation to a marriage proposal, it is not more advantageous for women to initiate." What is a unmediated unregulated dating market mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:09 PM
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"Of course a woman has a better chance of getting a yes, because a decent portion of those men would be interested in at least the hope of having sex, without much care if the relationship goes anywhere. That’s pretty undesirable to most women; you need to consider risk vs reward in how people decide how to conduct themselves." You as a woman don't have to go along with the guy if you get the impression he only wants sex "So yes a woman is more likely to reject you up front, but that also means …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:07 PM
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"Its almost like women are not horny enough to risk rape. Guess what thats never changing." Approaching a man doesn't automatically mean rape. The gaslighting is killing me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:03 PM
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"If a woman approaches a man he will think that she's desperate for sex and not just interested in getting to know someone. Also there's a good chance he's not truly interested in her, but he's gonna say yes regardless because he'd rather have a woman he isn't fully interested in to sleep with than be alone" That is not fated to happen. Otherwise I can say that men should never initiate with women because all of em will take advantage of you to take your money "Why would I risk putting myself in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:03 PM
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"Logically, desperate people will take anything, men are very vocal about that, and women don’t want to be anything" So don't date men. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:01 PM
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"But how can women pick and choose when literally all men are like this and the man who actually does pull his weight around the house is rarer than a bisexual unicorn?" All men are like this? You're kinda disproving yourself here. Because if all men are like this then why date any of them? Isn't a common narrative among women spaces is that most women are just simply not seeing the point in dating men who can't do the bare minimum? So why aren't women just simply staying single? But the numbers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:59 PM
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"If women approaching men had more advantages for women, we would do it." That's not true at all. That's assuming women know the benefits or care about the benefits well enough to put their ego on the line. There is technically alot of benefits in cold approaching for men and alot of men simply still don't cold approach. This is very false
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:56 PM
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Some it doesn't work for. Even for men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:55 PM
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Wrong. Their are plenty of advantages. And being assertive isn't a hard rule depending on how attractive you are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:54 PM
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Such an overused myth. I hope this is a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:50 PM
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Who the hell said they are nicer? All he said was approach uglier men. I think the thought was that uglier men are alot more receptive since they are.... Ya know.. ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:49 PM
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Sure. The odds that it Never happens is rare. But most of the times continued harassment of that magnitude will most of the time inadvertently makes that man a target
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:48 PM
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It impresses the guy It's ALOT better when the girl approaches first anyway because she might genuinely be attracted to the guy and the odds that she's genuinely attracted to him if he approaches is alot lower Alot of guys are shy and don't like bothering women so if they approach then its more of a thing that breaks the mold
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:47 PM
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"Because those are base instincts. Women only share men when they think they have a chance to eventually get that man to be exclusive with them." Not true at all. I've seen this song and dance multiple times. Women will simply share their men if there aren't alot of male options that they like (which is extremely common). And the guy provides enough value that they aren't willing to give up. Like being physically attractive, funny, smooth, great at conversation, super high motivated, great at se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:44 PM
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"It’s only a benefit of the men I approach are receptive" That's kinda how cold approaching works for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:31 PM
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Who the hell got you to believe that women strictly go off an evolutionary sense? They will go against what's needed for her long term if it she can find a high value man Also I didn't say that women only did this and stayed this way. What usually happens is they will share for as long as they can and will find a guy who isnt as high value when they get older and less picky but even then it will take em a while to get there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:30 PM
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It's one of the hardest things to prove because women won't be honest about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:16 PM
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Kinda the point of the post. Women have more incentive to lie
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:51 AM
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I didn't say all women. I'm talking about the women who usually make the claims
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:16 AM
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No. Because you don't represent all women. Wow you are really bad at this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:48 AM

And you still can't bring up the evidence. Which makes you quite pathetic. And a liar. So no. I'm not gonna spin wheels with you on the basis of you having ABSOLUTELY nothing to go off on but pure ignorance and projection. You lied and me and expect me to reason with you? No fam You blocked
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:52 PM
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Yes my actual post was referring to code approaching that was just a short-hand version of it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:17 PM
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Initiate is not the same as cold approach. Which was the topic. And many women date men they have initiated with first
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:43 PM

No. Get blocked and talk to a brick wall. Now you know how it feels
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:27 PM
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Ok well just a suggestion. You free to do as you please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:26 PM
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Yeah but unfortunately they won't be. The women can say absolute nonsense and get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:25 PM
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When you are in public places you don't most of the time have to get away there are people watching so the guy can move how he wants to if he's an actual predator
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:18 PM
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But that's literally what you did you didn't attack any of my arguments you just projected so Mr Reddit is this way.... Does this all of a sudden disqualify my arguments because I acknowledge what you clearly were doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:16 PM
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No you're going to have to reread that comment again my dear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:15 PM
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Well sign up it's cool. Or not. Just giving a suggestion. You have people more active there that can give you any advice or just a listening ear if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:15 PM
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Can you point to where my argument said any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:14 PM
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I agree with both but they don't hold up under scrutiny They say they don't respect men who don't but women date men all the time who don't approach because the overwhelming majority of men don't approach Also they say they don't want to which I agree with wholeheartedly because who the hell wants to risk themselves getting rejected which goes back to my original point they do it because of convenience more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:14 PM
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Wym?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:08 PM
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Which has never worked for ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:08 PM
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"Sure, but I'm not looking for something so much that I am willing to approach strangers who may cause me harm. And yes, in public settings, they are still chances of an altercation. As most men approach us and then harm us for saying no or for whatever reason while in public." Where is your evidence that MOST men are doing this? "Me approaching a man in a public setting doesn't make him any less likely to be safe than if a man approaches me in a public setting" Why? "In fact if a man approaches…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:07 PM
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"Yeah, and if i avoid talking to an excessive amount of strangers, I mitigate my risk of bwing harmed by a shit ton. And unfortunately the majority of violent criminals and sex offenders are men" I agree. Talking to an excessive amount of strangers regardless of the scenario or just spam approaching does increase your risk. Which is why you could calculate your approaches to specific scenarios and men out in public "So, as a man, you approaching women has a much lower rate of her murdering you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:04 PM
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"Women's dishonesty of what? What are women dishonest about? Men don't provide any value to women, which is why women don't approach men, because men's company is worth less than nothing. " Oh it's you again. If that's the case..... Why are women still dating men? Out of obligation? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:00 PM
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I am debating. But you on the hand are just doing alot of projecting Which kinda means we have nothing to talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:59 PM
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Yeah you are done "You started this by saying there were no downsides. Now you’re saying the risks can be reduced. If there’s risk to reduce, then by definition there’s a downside. Thanks for conceding the point." Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:58 PM
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Because the reality is. You can argue that alot of those claims aren't an end all be all under scrutiny. You'll have very few women that will admit to so. And just Downright admit it's just more convenient for them to approach. Which again is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:57 PM
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Well I hope you do. Are you on the ppd discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:56 PM
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I don't think any of what you're saying. You're fragile female ego doesn't help you out in the long run tho. Just makes you easier to make fun of
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:08 PM
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And I'm getting down voted for simply asking them to state their evidence for the case and they simply can't So you know this is a bunch of women just cosigning her strawman 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:04 PM
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"You didn't make a coherent argument." WRONG. I simply pointed out that women will inherently have a bigger reason to lie about such things because the privileges give them the ability to NOT have to take risks. You not keeping up is strictly a you problem because you're making it completely about feelings and nothing to do with the post. Again I ask. Point me to the part of my post where I say I'm upset that women aren't APPROACHING ME?!! You CANT. AND THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:04 PM
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"My point is that if men are significantly more likely to say yes regardless of genuine interest, then a yes tells a woman a lot less than it tells a man. She now has to spend more time figuring out whether he’s actually interested in her or just interested in the opportunity. That’s a downside." I knew what point you were TRYING to make. My point was that there weren't NO downsides. Read my post again. I'm simply arguing that the idea that women will only encounter men that just want sex is ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:01 PM
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What are they saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:59 PM
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Also that same article is talking about how they were able to conclude 95 percent of men were able to obtain sex using coercion or verbal pressure. As bad as it is on both fronts. That doesn't prove 95 percent of all men. Just the sample study Coercion in some cases is DEFINITELY sexual violence but that is not to believe that all form of coercion equates to sexual violence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:56 PM
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As in approaching? Or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:34 PM
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We get it. Our alternatives are just not as strong. Id say approach guys in public settings
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:33 PM
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Guys aren't hit on ever so the odds that they think you are making fun of them is high. That doesn't mean you had to give up. You simply could have adjusted the way you approached. Like legit say start off with a compliment or simply say "Most of the guys in here are legit annoying me and you seemed cool from afar so I just wanted to say hey" Or if just fucking " You look single".. While giving fuck me vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:32 PM
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Are they legit concerns? Of course. My arguement is that most women engaging in this argument will use these reasons as a copout for why they shouldn't make the first move. Because it's more convenient for them to not make the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:11 PM
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Want to? No Will they tolerant it if the alternative is to date most average Joe's they aren't attracted to? Yes. Almost every time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:09 PM
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"No. These are egalitarian men and husbands of sole and primary female breadwinners. All lazy because they only bring in half the household income at most, while leaving the chores and childcare for the women to do. Men referring to themselves as "providers" is a myth men invented to gaslight women and divert attention away from how little value they provide to women." Stats back up that men more on average than women. So this is not a myth. If we are going off preconceived notions that most men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:08 PM
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Could be. But that's only if the woman stick around. If he has already shown signs that he only wants sex and nothing else and she goes along with it then that's her fault at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:05 PM
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"Some of you think a woman owes you sex because you bought her a $15 martini. You don’t think that sense of entitlement would ramp up if she was the one who approached?" No. Go elsewhere with the shaming language. Your genjutsu doesn't work on me "So you’re just going to completely ignore the safety aspect of it?" I'll meet you halfway. You can run the risk that the safety can be more compromised by approaching more bad men. However I'd argue that alot of this is mitigated if you simply approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:03 PM
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"Omg yes! Literally yes! If anything it makes them more likely to be predatory or something. Since we are approaching them." No it's not. This is literally you guessing. And not wanting to put your neck on the line. If you truly think this about men then you shouldn't be dating any men and staying completely single This is your cue to say I already have a husband or I'm already single
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:57 PM
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"Exactly, if I am approaching strangers, there's still a chance those guys are bad men, just like there's a chance of the men approaching me might be bad guys You cannot tell who a good guy is by sight. So, me approaching does nothing because I am still approaching an unknown stranger who may or may not be bad." That is a chance you make REGARDLESS of sex/gender. Someone ALWAYS has a chance to prove you wrong because they could be bad men or bad women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:55 PM
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"Considering how extremely difficult it is to choose a decent, good or upstanding man..." I think you are MASSIVELY exaggerating how hard those men are to find. Those guys arent hard to find. Finding those men that women are ATTRACTED to hard to find. And even then. They stand a higher chance of finding that guy if they approach "Yeah, picking the men we want isn't much of a benefit. Especially these days, seeing as the majority aren't worth taking the chance/risk on." I don't think your reasoni…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:54 PM
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And whom I'm supposed to learn if from? You? Lol Not quite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:52 PM
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Ok so don't date men at all. But we know even if you agree to that most women never will
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:51 PM
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Damn Jan calms your nerves. My b
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:50 PM
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I agree but going off most women's statements that they use the apps that often
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:50 PM
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Ok send DM it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:49 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:47 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:46 PM
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"Why does it matter why a woman doesn't want to approach a man?" I could have sworn that everyone a long time ago agreed that dating would alot easier for both parties if they were honest? Also. Why is it all of a cardinal sin to call women on dishonesty? You understand this is Purple Pill DEBATE right? I'm not saying everything needs to be debated or that every conversation is genuine but calling out these things are the entire point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:09 PM
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Did I just join a secret fight club meeting? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:00 PM
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" Good news, cuz women don’t really care about your opinions either." Yet you cared enough to respond " If men listen to your advice and not approach women entirely, then fantastic. I’m almost certain they’ll achieve even greater sUcCeSs than before lol As for the rest of us, life goes on fine." Again. Not my argument. You guys have a fairly hard time reading seems like
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:59 PM
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Like women do all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:58 PM
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Usually they'll say things like: I'm not interested at all. Guys only want to pump and dump so there's no advantage for the woman Guys are more likely to like you if they approach Girls don't like passive men so therefore it doesn't benefit the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:52 PM
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"If you’re unattractive in anyway, there is no benefit - you will not have a chance and it’s presumptive to assume random men are interested. At best they’ll be nice in their rejection at worst they’ll either make fun of you or being desperate or pump and dump. Arguably most women have worse odds really." Not true at all. Their are plenty of unattractive men. The common thing that most people especially women can agree on is that most men are more unattractive than women. So the odds that none o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:51 PM
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You might but other women will usually be more interested especially if he's exactly their type
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:49 PM
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You ....might never have but despite what most women say...They have most certainly have seen a random men that they thought was attractive and wanted to know. So I don't see how that follows for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:49 PM
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"Yes, but men don't provide any value to women" You keep repeating this like it will all of a sudden make sense the more you say it. If that's the case then women should date men. Why aren't the majority doing it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:46 PM
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"There’s zero biological benefit or basis for women to approach, chase or initiate anything with men even if she wants quick hookups." Zero? Picking the men you want is not a benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:45 PM
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Who claimed they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:44 PM
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You're gonna have to rephrase that question. I couldn't understand what you're trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:43 PM
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So again. I ask the question. Why aren't you dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:42 PM
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"Aaand we’re getting sick and tired of how you’re gaslighting us into thinking it’ll benefit women more if they approach men instead." I don't really care. Most women stand alot more to win if they "don't believe it". Because we already know that women in general are NEVER gonna go the route of actively trying to approach men. Because that requires more work that women don't wanna do. The only people who this will actually convince are the more neutral women and mostly men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:40 PM
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"I don't think you're trying to win anyone's approval. I'm asking why you feel the need to add insults instead of just making your point." If my whole point was that alot of women are lying and being gaslighters? I think if people see those things then they are gonna call you adequately out for being those things "Men shouldn't waste their time with cold approaches either." Some common ground "And no, Bear wasn't a nice guy. He was a creep who ruined a young woman's life because he was obsessed …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:29 PM
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"What's the gaslighting? When women say they are at a bigger disadvantage if they approach men or if they say it's a bigger advantage if men approach over women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:25 PM
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It's better for both parties. Women should date the bear and men should just date their video game systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:23 PM
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I .....don't care? Somebody Cue the gif of Thanos "I don't even know who you are"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:22 PM
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Don't thank him yet
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:21 PM
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"Some of these dudes really suffer from perma-toddler brain." I'm glad you said that. Point to the part in my post where I said I was upset that women aren't approaching me? Go ahead. You can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:21 PM
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"Bro. Women DO NOT want to approach you." Not my argument. Stay on topic Jan "They approach men they are interested in. You have been told this. No amount of whatever this is will make women that aren't interested in you approach you. Calling them all lazy liars on the internet says a lot more about you than it does about the women minding their own business and avoiding toxic shit like this." So nobody is gonna acknowledge that this guy just basically did the "Rally The Crowd" Speech Check in M…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:19 PM
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"Women approach much higher value men who are more likely to pump and dump or fuckzone them because of hypergamy." By this same logic then women shouldn't go after the Majority of high value men. But we know damn well that this NEVER happens. They'll share THAT guy before they settle for an average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:15 PM
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No. She's not. You could argue that she would write him off to protect her ego but that's not the same as being "far less likely" to be attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:13 PM
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This argument never works. The overwhelming majority of men don't cold approach. Yet most women are still dating alot of men. So by that same proxy women are inadvertently dating passive or shy men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:13 PM
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"Men already shirk their fair share of chores, childcare and emotional labor in the relationship." So by your same logic. Since men are gonna be most of the time the breadwinners then women should be OK with doing most of that labor. If we are doing the whole generally men are lazy thing right? You just answered it partially. They have to make most of the first moves, pay, be the breadwinner, be the leader of the household, be very responsible help out around the house, and be responsible for ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:12 PM
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"So you want women but we have to do the work. Do you know how much work a relationship is for a woman? Too much of the time if we end up living together we carry the bulk of the household work. So you know, it would help if you did some stuff. So here is my deal, I get to ask you out as long as if the relationship lasts you do all the bulk of the household work? Let's switch?" I'm strictly talking about the initial dating phase since both parties can be an active participant in initiating dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:08 PM
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No. Wrong on most accounts. Women don't approach men in mass. But they still date alot of men. Most men aren't approaching because they want to approach. They approach because they know their chances of getting said girl is slim WITHOUT approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:05 PM
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"Absolutely not. I am already in danger from being approached. By approaching i increase the threat levels and am less safe" Not if you're approaching in very public settings like the Gym or at a Grocery Store. Common sense would tell you not to approach men in dark alley ways or parking lots "Especially since if i approach men, the bad men will see this as an invite and assume they are entitled to whatever they want from me." Aw yes because bad men are secretly watching you approach other men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:03 PM
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"Women aren't going to cold approach a random man." Not my argument "And women aren't interested in men who insult their entire gender right off the bat. The point could be made without insulting women. But it seems y'all think that insulting and shaming women is going to result in them cold approaching." Doesn't it show the ego of women when they think that their disproval automatically means something to me? Why do you do this weird thing to where you guys assume that any guy posting a subredd…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:00 PM
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"i don't think so, as a woman who decided against approaching after i saw what it leads to." You gonna keep us in the dark? Leads to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:54 PM

"I don't approach because I'm not interested in strangers. There's no advantage for me." Sure Jan. It's like when I tell my friends and family I don't fish. I just park my boat in the middle of the lake and wait for fish to jump in because I'm not interested in fishing 🎣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:53 PM
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If that's the case. They should stop dating men and date that Bear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:51 PM
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Actually that wasn't the conversation. But since we talking about it you flat out wrong A guy is actually more likely to not feel overwhelmed or offended BECAUSE he already gets rejected more. A woman is more likely to get rejected and feel really bad if she gets rejected because she's not used to it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:50 PM
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Neither does normal men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:32 PM
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I like how you gas like people into thinking that what you only said was asking questions when that's not what you actually did you actually gas like me and other men to think of that men are the problem when women are the ones initiating so please stop lying
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:28 PM
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What does crazy have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:27 PM
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Then you'd know the benefits. You can pick all the attractive men you want. Women complain that they can't pick who approaches but they when they have the ability to approach men in a somewhat decent way they can't alot of great men by simply approaching men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:20 PM
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Because you haven't done it long enough to have reap the benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:17 PM
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To them or in general? Because id argue it has a Ton of benefits. But they will simply say fuck the benefits because they are too cowardly and egotistical
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:13 PM
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Yes it is being lazy. They are hiding behind the fact that it's not their gender role to intitate. And it's always wants mostly not needs. "It would be dumb to chase after something you already have enough of, unless you just enjoy the chase or something" This logic never applies to men in your head then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:11 PM
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You're only speaking on your experience tho like what you say applies for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:05 PM
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Yes but you don't represent the majority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:04 PM
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I most certainly will. I will not get listening to delusional people like yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:27 AM
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Yep. Sue me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:24 AM
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I do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:20 AM
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You don't have to date me. I never asked you to. But it's a HUGE disconnect talking to women who are legit saying out of their mouths that women and men are taking intitative at the same routes It's not even that you're just dead wrong it's just that your blatantly wrong. Not even the type of wrong that you laugh at but just the one that you just stare at in literally look at in such disdain The only way you would ever assume that is because of the privilege of being a woman and only seeing thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:18 AM
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And there goes those feelings again. Are you guys just incapable of having conversation without getting in your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:14 AM
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No. It's just y'all don't know how reality works because you're so used to being incredibly privileged
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:15 AM
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Yeah you are a joke. But count on you as a woman to not know how reality works
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:18 PM
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I'm sure it does. But tha majority is the guy does most of the intitating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:41 PM
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No. She intiated. He just helped her out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:36 PM
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Yeah. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:53 AM
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Cold approaching works only for attractive men which is why men don't do it
/r/seduction02/08/26 06:37 AM
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So just don't date men at all stay asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:07 AM
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Because plenty of women in this very comment section and plenty of women will literally tell you that the man that they are dating made most of the first moves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:07 AM
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Nope. You are 100 percent right. So again... WHY AREN'T YOU DATING WOMEN?!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:28 AM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:46 AM
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"? women who believe in gender roles will want to follow these gender roles. i don't get what's your problem with this lol. "old school" means the person is against feminism." Most women aren't against feminism they are against gender roles that unfairly benefit them at the expense of men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:46 AM
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That sounds like a real convenient way to say lazy. I'm not talking about guys she's not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:45 AM
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You get the idea
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:44 AM
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Because according to women they LOVE sex with their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:44 AM
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"the more emotionally needy gains no benefit from pursuing the less emotionally needy" This is the most unbelievably laughable part of your reasoning So the more emotionally needy should Chase? I can't believe you said that with a straight face. That would make the emotionally Needy LESS attractive and MORE Needy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:44 AM
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It's absolute bullshit because if I apply that same logic to women it's all of a sudden different
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:42 AM
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They don't make the effort a lot of times with high value man either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:41 AM
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We live in a world where if a guy is lazy we call a spade a spade but if a woman is lazy it's "different"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:41 AM
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So why aren't you dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:40 AM
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No you guys are simply incapable of reading Read the title again in case you couldn't understand I'm saying that women are simply dishonest about the reasons they don't initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:40 AM
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Yes but it's easy to say that when alot of the brunt of relationships and dates rely on the men doing most of the intitating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:38 AM
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I don't even know what you're saying. What are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:36 AM
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"Are you saying you think women should initiate with men they are not attracted to?" No "If a man and a woman both find each other attractive she is just as likely to initiate then as he is." Not even remotely true. I approach women all the time. The ones I DID hit it ofd with alot of the times today they were attracted to me or noticed me before I approached. And I playfully ask why they don't say hi and they will usually say "It's not their job"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:36 AM
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Ironically?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:32 AM
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Also they are lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:32 AM
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"By your logic, if one guy says he’s a Yankees fan and another says he’s a Mets fan, men must be lying about baseball because they’re giving different answers. See how ridiculous that sounds?" Very weird logic because that's not even remotely what's happening What I was talking about is that women will give a lot of answers that don't really delve deep into the real reasons why they do what they do? Just because they give different answers does not mean both parties are telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:32 AM
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So if a man doesn't initiate then he's lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:30 AM
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I hate when women do the thing where they say I'm different and think they are speaking for all women. If you're different and pay for dates good for you. Other women aren't following suit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:30 AM
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"How is asking someone out taking over five minutes?" We're you born last night? Most guys cannot simply go up to a woman and it simply asked them out in the first minute of them talking. They usually have to go up introduce themselves,get to know the woman, flirt, relate to them, and THEN ask them out. That rarely happens in under 5 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:29 AM
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Another big reason is that they're extremely lazy when it comes to initiating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:27 AM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:27 AM
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Thanks for driving a conversation elsewhere it didn't need to be. The person above me was trying to be disingenuous like the old woman majority of men are making first moves or initiating when the actuality the only time that is actually common is with guys that are super famous or super attractive so go elsewhere with your tangents that doesn't have anything to do what I had to say
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:26 AM
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The woman who want to be left alone and be absolute fences with no partners don't count
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:25 AM
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That wasn't a conversation though the conversation was that women's efforts when it comes to sex is 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:25 AM
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Women are in no position to call any men low effort where they put in absolute abysmal effort on anything male related. This is ultimately projection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:23 AM
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"Nah you moved your goal post. It’s not about being easy or hard. It’s about being embarrassed in public as you brought up earlier." Disagree There's no point of bringing up that people can bounce back after the embarrassment sure it's definitely possible most people bounce back the idea that they will bounce back as fast or recover from things that are embarrassing when it comes to code approaching is so much different than comparing it to riding a bike so no I didn't move the goal post that's …
/r/seduction02/08/26 12:22 AM
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If most women Are not attracted to most men And by your own logic they only approach men they are attracted to It's not crazy for us to conclude the men that women ARE attracted to enough to initiate are RARE So if we know this.... Then it means that it's rare that women initiate Because half of the time a women can be attracted to a guy and HED still initate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:40 PM
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Wym?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:15 PM
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If most women don't prefer most men and they are initiating with the men they want which is a small portion of men then by proxy that means the old one majority of men are not making moves with men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:14 PM
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But you started it off so I was just finishing it if you don't want to argue that's you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:05 PM
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"But the conversation should be directed at men. Not women. Men are doing these actions." It depends on a conversation being had. If we are simply arguing that men will put in way too much effort for way too little results then yes that's something I have been preaching for a very long time But that is not what I'm talking about today I am simply talking about women virtue signaling of the reasoms they don't initiate I called those men out all the time. "Men get bothered by other men ruining the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:01 PM
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"Women literally do things that they feel obligated to do without demanding credit or attention for it- like cleaning the house. Men satisfy their own desires by initiating sex and act as if this is some sort of a gift" Wrong. Most will clean not because they FEEL obligated to do so but because they want to because guys priotize different things. It's the meme of guys can live in an empty house and coffee table. And you are absolutely high if you're implying that women don't try to take credit f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:58 PM
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Very rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:38 PM
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"There's no facts. Just hyperbolic statements." Wrong "Because they are the ones paying for dates, asking out women, etc. They are the ones setting the expectations." Agreed. But that doesn't necessarily mean we are MAD at those men for initiating because they realize how hard it is to expect women to put their egos to the side and initiate. "Y'all get bothered by women. Women are just responding to the actions of those men." Men get bothered by the sheer act of virtual signaling and dishonesty …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:38 PM
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Wrong. Most guys love when girls intiate. Even if she's not that physically attractive. Unless she's like morbidly obese
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:34 PM
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You haven't asked out enough men to make that conclusion for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:33 PM
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"Being passive IS a deal breaker for me. I have many. If I flirt with a man and he does not make a move, I simply stop being interested in him. I have a lot of dealbreakers. He could be attracted to me, but him being passive makes me unattracted to him." Good for you. Id argue that's not as big as deal breaker for most women. I'm not talking about you intitating and man not reciprocating. That is another matter. Unless the man himself is just not reading your signals because you are ambiguous "H…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:33 PM
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"it is not biologically, emotionally, economically, physically or mentally beneficial for most women to be the suitors when pursuing men." Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:29 PM
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I don't think you even know what you are actually saying
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:28 PM
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"Women aren’t doing this to “most men” because they don’t want “most men” enough to be bothered." My point exactly. And you missed the obvious detail of me eluding to that women ALSO don't initiate with guys they actually LIKE as well because the guy will do all the work for them "Why do you think it’s laziness for women not to expend extra effort to “get” something that they aren’t likely to actually want or enjoy?" I don't. I'm not in the business of convincing women to initiate with men they …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:28 PM
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I couldn't understand that paragraph. Can you rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:23 PM
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No not delusional. Realistic. Women can often more times than get all the results they want WITHOUT making the first moves. I'm tired of disingenuous you people are. Yeah. Future and Micheal B Jordan get approached. That is NOT the damn norm. Stop pretending like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:22 PM
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As in the guy didn't ask them out, cold approach, ask for their number, or intiate sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:21 PM
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Women are definition of virtue signalers. Thats true This the truest comment I've ever seen and frankly I wish I could upvote you a 1000times "If women were lazy, they'd want to take credit for easy things like "initiating sex" rather than cleaning the house regularly for the same credit as per their gender role" This comment hits twice as hard now the way you phrased it "What's more, women do actually do all of those things anyway with a guy they're really into. You just think they don't becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:20 PM
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Basically. Which is why I say when you present to them that it would beneficial for them to initiate in some areas it's seen as an offense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:17 PM
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I think they should for the men they like. Or attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:16 PM
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Speak for yourself. Easy for you is what you should have actually said. Not for most men id argue. Especially if you aren't getting good results. "most take less than five minutes." In a PERFECT scenario. But that's not how it works. Approaching someone in a suave and cool way to where she gets attracted to want you to give her number usually takes more than 5 minutes. And dates are never actually 5 minutes "If women were lazy, they'd want to take credit for easy things like "initiating sex" rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:10 PM
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"That’s literally just a chicken and egg. Men being hornier and having less to lose / more to gain if the relationship only stays casual, leads to men doing more of the approaching and therefore women having more sexual suitors. And vice versa." Yeah I agree. Which is why the point my that men inadvertently approaching leads to women to not want intiate or have male gender roles at all
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:05 PM
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I don't see them approaching it from a transactional approach. But their transactional approach is not the reason that they have to initiate... They have to initiate because women demand it and ARENT going to initiate because they have too many options
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:03 PM
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Well that's simply not true at all. Men want women more than women want men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:02 PM
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What counts as alot?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:57 PM
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I mean don't confuse my words. I'm not saying that the overwhelming majority of women wants the overwhelming majority of men to approach them. That would be false. They are mostly talking about that attractive men. However this idea that women will automatically be unattracted to a guy who didn't initiate is just flat out wrong. There are plenty of examples of where you can simply ask women have they ever saw an attractive guy out in public and wanted them to approach? The answer would be yes. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:56 PM
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"What's attractive is a man showing clear, direct, and intentional attention to me when the goal of courtship/relationship" Agreed "Idk why y'all are mad at women." Not mad just stating the facts "Seems like y'all should be mad at the men who show clear, direct, and intentional attention towards women with the goal of courtship/relationship." Uh no. Why would we be? "Why not make a post about the men who willingly pay for dates, ask women out, etc." Why would I need to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:52 PM
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Of course you as a woman say this. Anytime a woman says this I have to take it with a grain of salt because they initiate with enough man to make this sort of claim and on top of that... They overreact to to men saying they don't like it when in reality there are a lot of men who do like it who they won't just flat out ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:51 PM
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No. I think you're on the right track but you're getting it confused. Women will use the social stigma and the social incentive to get men to comply with gender roles. But that is not the same of what I'm talking about. I'm simply saying woman won't engage in masculine gender roles because they simply don't like putting in the work and would much rather a guy do it. They are Manager telling the employee to do the dirty work essentially
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:49 PM
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Hence the point of my post? Men don't have the privileges that women do. Like I don't know what new grounds you think you are covering, you were just saying obvious things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:47 PM
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No. They aren't doing this to most men. So sick of this lazy argument to justify woman's very passive nature. It's like saying hey women are approaching Dennis Rodman in the club so therefore it does happen more than enough.... like please exit to your left with this very obtuse argumentive style
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:46 PM
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I agree but that's half of the equation. The other half is that men don't have the privilege like women do to be passive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:44 PM
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You don't have to do anything but the reality is the result of not doing anything is that you end up lonely But it's not the result of women. They can be completely lazy and still end up in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:43 PM
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Yeah... Wh... What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:43 PM
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"Men do it more because they’re simply more motivated to. Men are more often attracted to random women (and are already open to sex) at first sight than women are to men." That's half of the answer. The other half of the answer is that men cannot rely on women to do the initiating since women have more options
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:42 PM

Except women. Rules for thee and not for me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:41 PM
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Well that can be major cap because there is tons of examples of women going out and annoyed that they aren't getting approach even though they are attracted to the guys in the vicinity. Reality is not taking initiative is not in a nutshell for women to completely think a guy is unattractive. You could argue that women will write those guys off to protect their egos like saying "he was never interested" But that is not the same as them physically being unattracted to the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:41 PM
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That's such a pathetic attempt to say ....you don't feel like doing anything 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:37 PM
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"Why are they barbaric?" Because the gender roles were made in a less civilised and progressive time. Are you reading my comment? "If men are wired to prefer "pretty" women and women are wired to prefer men capable of taking care of them. Why should we get in the way of that? That's just how the human brain is wired. You can try to force cultural norms that discourage this practice. As we have. But it won't make anyone happier. Just make the dating scene less functional." But you're simply actin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:36 PM
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"one day you will all stop being delusional" You must talking from experience "its not playing gender role. its lack of interest. men are nt force to do these things actually you see a woman and you want her" Agreed slightly. But apply that same logic to women. How many women are in this very comment section saying they were attracted to men yet NEVER initiated? By your same logic women NEVER like the men they date
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:31 PM

I'm from the south so you can't use this level of mental gymnastics on me. I am aware that women find more men that initiate attractive my problem is ... You are using that as a scapegoat and a defense to excuse your laziness. "It’s attractive when men take charge and are assertive. Feckless men are deeply, deeply unattractive. Since this is a quality that I require for attraction, it does not make sense for me to continue dating men who don’t display these qualities." I'm sure it is. But don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:29 PM
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You guys see what I mean? They say absolute nonsense at such a subconscious rate. Why is the man the suitor madame? Is it because it was a gender roles were invented before we a more civilised society? So is it YOUR JOB to wash my drawers and cook me dinner Every night?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:23 PM
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Of course. It's like when girls say I don't initiate sex because I find it more attractive when my partner initiates. Their may be some truth to that... But you'll immediately see tons of examples where the male initiates and she's likes nah I'm not feeling it. And the guys like whatever Then the MOMENT she initiates and he says no it's WW3. Then when the guy is confused and is like ...wait.. you turn me down all the damn time and I don't get upset. And their response along the lines of "You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:20 PM
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It's Japanese
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:17 PM
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They get no play. Become incels
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:17 PM
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"So yeah, i'm truly not interested under conditions that i also have to chase men" Of course you say that. It's not convenient for you 😭 "Alright, I will ask you the same thing i've asked all men who cry about female privilege like that. What men bring to the table aside from that? Because the way i see it i take risks everytime i'm with a man. Everytime i have sex." What he brings depends on the man. But the reality is they do bring to the table off rip is money because they are doing all the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:16 PM
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Those Gender Roles are completely Barbaric in a civilised society we live in today. If we were talking about the very old days then I would see your point. But the reality is that women and men make the same amount of money. So no. That's not it Men simply pay for dates because women aren't willing to fold on compromising gender roles because they get too many benefits from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:11 PM
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If you're saying humans as a whole are lazy and don't want to do any work because of that? Then sure. But the overwhelming majority of men have to do it. So they do it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:09 PM

"So… women don’t wish to do those things because they want to be lazy?" FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:05 PM
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"It always astounds me that a guy can feel so self-important and omniscient that he believes he can speak for “most men”, or “most”anything." You do understand that every movie anything of what I was saying with false you would see the overwhelming majority of man code approaching right but that's not what you see so what does that tell you?
/r/seduction01/08/26 02:03 PM
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Big mistake That if you can do it I can talk is straight bullshit. Any body is CAPABLE of doing it but is it probable for most males to do it then no. It's takes a fuck ton of work unless you are natural "By equating a guy who does daygame to a brain surgeon, u just communicate that its some monumental task that requires years of training..nope" It is. There's a reason most guys aren't willing to do it. Because they have to dedicate years of their life to get better at it and most guys are super…
/r/seduction01/08/26 06:48 AM
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Good for you but that's not how most men work. Dealing with that amount of rejection everyday leads men to feel bad about themselves
/r/seduction01/08/26 06:37 AM
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"The gym is great if you get good at it" No fuck all that noise if it's already hard enough to get women in real life quote approaching then doing gym code approaching is a death sentence because you're just going to risk getting kicked out of the gym for harassing the women if you're not good at code approaching
/r/seduction01/08/26 05:31 AM
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Buy all fucking means. This is not a situation of if I simply approach I would get the results because that's not what it is. This is the equivalent of you telling me hey you are missing out by not being a brain surgeon I'm not smart enough to be a damn brain surgeon
/r/seduction01/08/26 05:26 AM
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"You’ll get the hottest girls from irl," That's what chase amante says but fuck him. He says that all the time to get people motivated to but his products
/r/seduction01/08/26 05:14 AM
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No I wouldn't. Because I know girls like anything attractive guys can get away it
/r/seduction01/08/26 05:04 AM
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Yeah but that fucking sucks though and I can't believe you live in a world where any guy thinks that feeling is good
/r/seduction01/08/26 05:03 AM
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It's only effective for guys who are insanely smooth? Because a lot of guys can cold approach but they're not going to get anywhere
/r/seduction01/08/26 05:03 AM
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But that's not the same as cold approach
/r/seduction01/08/26 05:02 AM
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"If a kid learning to ride his bike and he fell of in front of his friends, would you call it a humiliation ritual?" No. Because riding a bike in a nutshell for most people is simply not that hard to learn. I would simply tell him to dust himself off and we can train somewhere where his friends cant see or in the dirt "If a kid stuttered in front of the class because he wasn’t prepared and his classmates awkwardly laughed at him, would that be a humiliation ritual?" If he continued to try to do …
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:59 AM
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No cold approaching is still technically different
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:42 AM
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What power tho?
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:42 AM
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I don't think I'm willing to deal with that humiliation ritual
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:41 AM
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No. I've done enough of that
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:41 AM
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Why
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:41 AM
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Yeah with staged videos
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:39 AM
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If we are saying dead as in they are extremely mission almost nobody is showing up then yes by definition they are dead
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:37 AM
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It's rarer to cold approach?
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:37 AM
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That first salesman sounds like me the moment she starts trying to give excuses I'm getting the fuck up out of there But the reality is that's not the real issue the real issue is that it takes way too much effort and way too much to actually get a woman to go on a date with you or give you your number from code approach so the reality is most guys aren't going to do it
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:36 AM
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The reality is we will never reach common ground because of the simple fact that the overwhelming majority of men will never feel comfortable doing a humiliation ritual of cold approach because the women will always make them feel very little and humiliated when they reject or make fun of them Which is always going to happen regardless
/r/seduction01/08/26 04:34 AM
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Only in much rarer numbers?
/r/seduction31/07/26 06:30 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:22 PM
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Why exactly would you be jealous of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:24 PM
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Well you decided to answer and respond. I don't care who's problem it is really. You decided to respond. Also you can have an answer and the answer still could based off a bad read of how life works
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:24 PM
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Again talking from an extremely privileged perspective.... I could argue that men are more likely to be interested because they get no women to pursue them. So because you pursued you made an impression. Most guys don't MAKE an impression it's expected for guys to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:48 PM
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Again.. Nothing fucking changes if that desperate man approaches you anyway. You would have still said no. The reason you approached that guy in the first place or pursued was because you thought he was attractive enough to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:46 PM
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I can say the same damn thing for you if you believe that most men are only saying yes for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:45 PM
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Why do you guys do this thing when men are speaking in general to automatically assume that we are talking about YOU specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:44 PM
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What have they said?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:39 PM
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"Yeah, because men don't lie." Since when did we live in a world where women have EVER took what most of what a man says seriously? Men are the one who are more likely to fall for lies because alot of are gullible and desperate. Women are usually the ones that go off a man's actions so why exactly do you think this a dunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:39 PM
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THATS what I was trying to convey earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:36 PM
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Girls can do the EXACT same thing. So what really is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:36 PM
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I would argue that.. that seems to be a blinder for women then.... There isn't a strong social stigma except from mostly other women and laziness to not pursue other men. Men are literally begging for it but ego won't let women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:35 PM
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Not by men specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:33 PM
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Why is 3 here that just seems left field? Vulnerability to a potential abuser or creepy guy? What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:32 PM
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No. Both get blamed. Not the women. If y'all are unkempt as fuck y'all get judged as an unkempt as couple. There are alot of unkempt as women out there just as well. Guys standards for what they need to their household to function is for lack of a better term less uptight. So they won't prioritize it as much as the women doesn't mean that men EXPECT women to do it for them. The women CHOOSE to do those household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:28 PM
1

Who forced you to do the labor at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:26 PM
4

They live in a perpetual victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:25 PM
-1

That's not what a man is expected to do. That's what alot of women choose to do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:25 PM
1

I'm sure it would. Alot of other men believe the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:24 PM
1

No it's not. Because women use men just like men use women. Alot of women will simply say yes because they don't know how to say yes, they want attention, and they simply want to use a guy for his money. It's happens all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:15 PM
0

But a second ago they always want sex and we're simply going for the easiest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:13 PM
-1

I think they blame both
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:13 PM
3

Clients?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:03 PM
1

"It fascinates me, when men like to believe in some image of other men without any experience. Ironically they also can see some contradictions, and in another debate where the question would be phrased differently, there will be many who would say that men pump and dump and you'd agree. But when women say this - it's not allowed apparently." That's funny. Because half of the women commenting on men making the first moves AUTOMATICALLY assume that girls shouldn't based soley on there assumption …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:01 PM
2

"But this is a problem too. He might be so desperate that he'll say yes to anything. I want to be liked for who I am, I'm not just "anything". So why the hell would that change regardless of who's approaching? Your solution leads to more loneliness. Lots of people are lonely. Doesn't mean people have to stay lonely because they were desperate at one point. "". The guys who imply that only want sex are usually guys who will also say it. The problem is men who think "oh, a woman approaching me! I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:00 PM
1

But how?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:57 PM
1

You had me until that last example. People must certainly will judge you for keeping your kids unkempt
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:25 PM
10

Ok so a woman saying yes to men is only an opportunity to take his money and use his for free food/board
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:24 PM
2

If it simply after who was easiest.... Then the overwhelming majority of women wouldn't get attention for sex and they would simply just talk to only fat women or prostitutes. That's not actually what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:23 PM
1

I don't think women are EXPECTED to do the house work and chores. The women choose to because men in general are generally lazy around household chores. That's why when girls first moves into guys house they usually notice that guys will have almost nothing in their house but a TV stand, a couch, a coffee table, and a pool table. That's its Guys don't carry much because they usually don't require much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:22 PM
1

Women can still approach men. Also I think that stigma is vastly overblown. Most men are not attractive and don't have many women chasing them. So a woman approaching wouldn't automatically be presented as a hoe for approaching because men get next to No attention anyway. Also yes you do have a chance to encounter men who only want sex. But the solution to that is Crazy stupid simple. Stop texting the guy if he's implying he only wants to meet up for sex. Also hard to be jealous about because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:18 PM
0

Id argue that 9 times out of 10 if a guy wants to sleep with you than he actually likes you. That doesn't imply that he wants to be a relationship with you but he does indeed to a certain degree find you attractive. Guys in general standards for dating or sex have NEVER been high. Simply being non morally corrupt, not being obese, and appearing semi loyal is enough to for guys to fall head over heels. Girls do this thing where they AUTOMATICALLY assume that if a guy only wants them for sex that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:15 PM
3

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:05 PM
1

If she's simply talking about DIRECTLY from female partners than she's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:04 PM
4

How is she wrong on all accounts? Virgin shaming does happen but it's not slut shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:04 PM
5

All of this is the complete backwards of what I usually here. Most people usually ask abandon childs wheres your mom instead of dad. And isn't it a running joke that dad's always get mischaracterized as babysitting when they are taking care of that child? That might sound like a compliment when it actuality it's backhanded
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:02 PM
-4

But why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:00 PM

I swear. Her mouth has a motor. Shes just that one friend that just yaps with no rhyme or reason
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:35 PM

Why the hell is this chick even here other than to ragebait all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:34 PM
3

And now you're just making up stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:37 AM
3

But that's not what most men are. You're talking about exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:36 AM

Wow what an absolute birdbrain post. Guys do NOT only feel bad about themselves when it comes to sex. You need to actually meet people in real life cause it's clear you're hung out in too many incel spaces and think it's reality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:18 PM
4

Ok? I don't see why because of those bad examples of how a nice person is supposed to act that guys are all under the same mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:20 PM
5

Well that's the problem. The women that are using the labels that an Incel is automatically a nice guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:11 PM
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Obviously I'm not advocating for those crazed Incels. Those guys can scram
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:06 PM
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Honestly I'm just quite tired of Reddit gaslighting people into thinking actually nice guys are the bad guys because they lack assertiveness. When in reality when you know women we'll enough they'll gaslight into thinking nice guys are the actual villains and the women are actual victims when they treat nice guys like trash. It's like they don't wanna look bad for treating them awful so they have to spin it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:33 PM
1

Going where you are appreciated does not make you a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:49 PM
3

Nobody. But I can have fun too... Since you are so bored
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:26 PM
3

The guys on average care. The women on average doesn't. Because in their mind. The dating world for them is not better. Until you ask them start taking initiative that is...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:26 PM
1

I fucking hate this stupid ass shit
/r/seduction16/06/26 01:25 PM
5

When did we expect it from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:23 PM
-3

He will not shut up. He's making a valid point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:22 PM
1

They wouldn't have sex then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:22 PM
4

ONG So many facts. Immigrants that are usually given the benefit of the doubt is ALWAYS the women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:22 PM
1

You are more likely to feel MORE lonely from sexlessness. It still relates
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:21 PM

I'm bored of her ragebaiting honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:10 PM

Guys. LilithofBabylon is speaking. Stop listening 🎧
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:09 PM
1

It's not I'm just saying generally most bisexual and lesbian women don't have more game
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:52 PM
1

What's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:08 PM
1

No... I thought we was talking about two different things. I thought you was referring to guys who are creepy, stalker heavy, or sexually harass women As far as misogynistic most of the guys I know usually laugh in your face and do the whole ... "Which bitch broke your heart" routine. Kinda how like girls do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:36 PM
1

I don't think you meet enough men then. Most of the men I know get very violent when they find out a guy they know does that.. If it is a guy thats doing it they probably don't know if he's doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:32 PM
0

That's assuming that the acts itself are warranted of an arrest
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:30 PM
1

You are tripping big time bro. A dude who is usually confronted by other men for sexually harassment or any of the other pushy actions is usually beat on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:34 PM
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No. Not true at all. I used to be on 4chan. And 4chan used to pose daily prisoners with cell phones being predators men that includes, men that are arrested for stalking, harassment, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:33 PM
0

And I have seen men in that situation probably far more. Women have super high standards so very likely to leave before then. Most men won't
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:31 PM
1

I wouldn't say a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:31 PM

I'll wait till they improve on them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:06 PM
0

No. Just you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:05 AM
1

Not really. It's harder for women to fall in love and easier for them to fall out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:47 AM
1

With men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:47 AM
3

Insanely wrong but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:47 AM
1

Being chill is not enough for most men to succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:27 AM
2

Ehhh negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:26 AM
3

Wym
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:23 AM
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I mean not wrong but women seem to spend their every waking minute doing it people just find men more annoying because they don't care about men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:16 AM
1

Don't see how
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:04 AM
6

That is laughably false
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:03 AM
3

Been there done that it just makes you feel even shittier about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:03 AM
4

They already are insanely selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:56 AM
2

Can't believe this is even controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:56 AM
1

THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:56 AM
1

Most women are insanely picky and fickle. This simply isn't True
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:55 AM
0

Most?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:55 AM
5

Id argue that alot of men do check each other. Half of the fear of men being predators is that they know they will get targeted by other men for doing predatory things. ESPECIALLY if they end up in jail
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:54 AM
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I mean let's be honest. Alot of women are BLATANTLY disgusted by the overwhelming majority of the male population. And more likely to find a woman attractive than a male. So it's not unreasonable for men to think this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:53 AM
3

It depends on what they believe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:52 AM
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Don't agree. Most women are already insanely picky so they are settling for most alot of douche bags unless they douchebag is really hot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:52 AM
3

It depends on which ones you highlight
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:51 AM
-1

Be glad you aren't a guy. A guy will ignore a woman being a serial killer if he's in love
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:51 AM
-1

Ehhh this doesn't really hold weight with me Guys are just as likely to be irrational actually they're more likely to be irrational when they are in love so this is not really something that really does anything to me when I hear it Because women are very likely to fall out of love with men because they usually have way bigger standards and usually only want seemingly perfect men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:50 AM
1

If you respond to this comment I'll tell you the real answer
/r/seduction13/06/26 12:49 AM
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I haven't heard it being the norm that guys have it easy. Yes absolutely guys have it the worst but I don't hear most people saying guys have it easier
/r/seduction12/06/26 02:48 AM
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Some are... Peoples sexuality is on a spectrum .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:18 AM
0

Yep. All of those
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:01 AM
0

You don't speak for all heterosexual women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:42 AM
1

I really don't know if this is an insult or sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:38 AM
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You just told on yourself. If conversation is easier it's much easier for people to transition to dating then if you couldn't conversate with men as easily
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:36 AM
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Yes but like I said the woman who have gotten over their fear of making the first moves usually have very great success rates.. That is not even remotely close to guys who have gotten over their fear
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:36 AM
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So overall your point is that lesbian women get rejected so therefore it's just as hard as men? Are you aware of how fickle your argument sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:35 AM
3

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:34 AM
5

Dude all you really need to know if you're hella confused is that woman will always want to have their cake while simultaneously eating it They don't want the gender Norms that they have to conform to but the masculine gender Norms they want someone else to do for them so they will always result back to being "I'm just a girl"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:33 AM
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And for men they don't even really meet up with women at their houses or have sleepovers... The woman doesn't want to even give him a date so I think this kind of speaks for itself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:32 AM
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Dude what the fuck are you talking about? You just said a whole bunch of nonsense... They pursue because of the fact that it's not easy... And they have higher sex drives
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:31 AM
1

Yeah and when has the last time a guy has easily met somebody and spent 3 days with them that's not even really a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:30 AM
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I think you completely missed the point of the post. My point is that the bar for heterosexual and lesbian woman to clear for dating is not equal. For heterosexual men the bar is a lot higher
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:29 AM
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And I didn't have to challenge it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:27 AM
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Heavy amounts of lying here He didn't say 80 percent of men are approaching women. Men will eventually get attention if they live long enough but they will absolutely be ignored in most circumstances when it comes to cold and warm approaching women. Nice straw man The Bar is high for men.... You just live in your own world
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:27 AM
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It's easier in a sense that if lesbian women were more welding to shoot their shot then they could easily find a relationships It's not easy in a sense that lesbian people are more rare than heterosexual people But if you told me that a lesbian woman was going to go to a mall and shoot her shot with a bunch of woman and then a normal heterosexual guy is going to shoot his shot with a bunch of women I will bet $100 on the fact that the woman will probably get a date before the guy will
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:25 AM
1

Results as in getting laid or even getting dates or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:24 AM
4

Who? And acknowledging what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:23 AM
2

I don't have to take advice from Incels but I don't have to take it from you either. Because honestly you seem like a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:49 PM
2

Not yours. He will be ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:48 PM
2

Since when did being an unpleasant women PREVENT women from being single? 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:35 PM
2

He doesn't need your help
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:35 PM
1

He's not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:34 PM
2

It's a cold world out there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:33 PM
7

Why would you do that? Humiliation ritual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:32 PM
6

I can't wait for those sex dolls because I'm 29 now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:31 PM
7

Why does everyone in the seduction community have to answer questions in the most roundabout way fucking possible? It sounds like you guys are part a damn Ponzi scheme how much you avoid direct questions. Any kind of sex is still a win in my opinion. But if 1 and 15-20 is your results I guess that's not bad.
/r/seduction10/06/26 04:34 PM
5

Ok quick question. How often do you get laid from cold approach?
/r/seduction10/06/26 04:23 PM
1

I thought this was obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:06 PM
1

No. Just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:56 PM

First off you're obtuse. Stop trying to sound smart. Second, the entire point is that you keep most of your personality genius. My whole thing was that you would have to change how you move because you are a guy and you don't have the privilege of women And no you DO NOT have game. You can stop now. Talking to other women as a women IS NOT game because it's easy as hell. You head is about to fall off its shoulders with the amount of blue caps that are weighing down your egg induced head. Also ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:44 PM
2

No. I just know you trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:38 PM
2

No change in your trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:34 PM
2

Yeah they'll look at you like a creep or rapist first.... Yeah Excellent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:34 PM
1

Yes you would... Because you have less value as a guy and you more threatening by default. And women have far more options. You absolutely would have to change it up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:33 PM
1

You'd have to do it differently
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:28 PM
3

You have to approach as a man tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:28 PM
1

You haven't picked up women as men is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:27 PM
1

You'd be dating women but you have women memories as a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:25 PM
2

It's because you haven't approached enough men... And if you aren't ok with taking initiative now then you won't be as a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:24 PM
2

You would still struggle to find dates and relationships just as bad if not worse than us.... Because you still have to make all the first moves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:23 PM

Lilith again with the Bulljive. Just lives to say dumb ish
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:21 PM
0

I know what you mean because less lesbians exist than straight women but I'm saying it wouldn't go up much unless you are very attractive man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:25 PM
2

I'm thinking more in a scenario of let's take all the women from this world insert them into an alternate universe where women already exist but in this universe they are men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:58 PM
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That's hella weird most of the guys I know are in favor of not cold Approaching. They actually despise it Maybe it's a purple pill thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:43 PM

You cared enough to comment. And that's all that matters 👀👀 I know you aren't saying it's the same but you're comparing the two as if they are equivalent to the same intimidation as an average straight male Or at least remotely close enough that it would make a difference that's why I said it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:15 PM
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I didn't say mascs don't approach. Learn to read man I said they don't feel like approaching all the time... There's a clear difference between the two of we are expecting mascs to approach in this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:11 PM

As a black man I get so entirely sick of the insane victim complex black women use.... It's nowhere remotely close to the level of intimidation that black man receive on a male to female basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:07 PM
1

If you were a guy and you wasn't very physically attractive you would have to play the numbers game unfortunately because the overwhelming majority of women would find you on attractive that's just how it is You have to nut up in this scenario figuratively speaking unless you don't mind being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:04 PM
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I'd argue that most women are weird about sex and they have these really weird requirements on what constitutes as good sex and what constitutes a man as being sexy I've already knew this before purple pill existed. My thing is I can't stand it when women do the thing to where they try to pretend that women are just as horny as men and that's not even remotely true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:02 PM
1

Like a third or fourth? You understand that even in the under developed nations the men are tortured and killed more often right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:02 PM
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To the first question no. To the second question... Let's pretend that an alternate universe an entirely new batch of women exist and they act just like women of today but the women of this universe have turned into men I'd say you keep relatively the same appearance as long as it can translate over without looking weird The last question is yes... But it's only enough to where you can't back out and say.... I'll wait it out till everything goes back to normal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:00 PM
1

Because I have worked and been around a lot of lesbian spaces for a long ass time and most of them are not masculins so again I don't know what the fuck you talking about but it ain't reality The masculine ones I did meet didn't always feel like approaching. I don't understand why that's a foreign freaking concert to you but you need to grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:57 PM
2

I remember you. I think you mad cap but you're entitled to your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:50 PM
7

Yeah right 😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:50 PM
1

But the problem is most lesbian are not mascsss and even then they don't always feel like approaching. So nah don't see it unless it was even. It's not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:50 PM
0

That's never gonna happen. If lesbians aren't now.... Thennnnn
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:49 PM
2

So women are not nasty and cruel?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:20 PM
1

You say this like most women aren't delusional lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:19 PM
1

you are in for a rude awakening... Because a lot of your dating prospects would drop
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:18 PM
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They would know and that's exactly why they wouldn't make any moves that's why it's a comic joke that lesbians don't make moves they just stare at each other all day and just say you're so pretty women don't have game
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:18 PM
5

And women do what exactly? Lead the blind while being simultaneously blind?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:17 PM
1

Overall I don't think they would have an advantage the only advantage they would have is that they want to make friends but that's not the intent of the post I'm saying if they actually want to date those women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:14 PM

Woman just love to Yap don't they? I swear every single complaint women have about men on purple pill is just self projection coming from the women's side. If they fall in love with the looks and the fantasy of a woman then how the hell are they going to get detached? That doesn't even make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:15 PM

Absolutely not I disagree with your disagreement. The idea that life is too short is still bogus. Most guys get way too attached and still get nothing so what time is really being wasted here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:14 PM

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:14 PM

We've all seen a girl fall for a guy she's usually still less attached
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:13 PM
0

Which is why I wasn't arguing that. And honestly that goes to show you why dating is so unbelievably hard for men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:10 PM
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You don't think the majority of women are more privileged what world are you living on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:05 PM
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They struggle to get it.... That's what I was referring to. Also legitimately most women should just become lesbians because they're just pissing me off with all the bull they say about men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:05 PM
-1

You right. She's hella gay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:03 PM
1

Your entire post is Bulljive and honestly it's extremely freaking rich coming from a woman because that is the exact way that you guys are and this post comes across as heavy projection It's the woman that went all the upsides of being a man and none of the downsides Don't believe me? Okay why don't most women approach men, why don't most men pay for dates, why don't most men initiate sex as often, why don't most women go out of their way to protect their husbands in a fight or flight scenario, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:03 PM
-1

Sex is easier and better for men Just so easy to lie isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:01 PM
-9

This is a load of bullshit spread by men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:57 AM
1

Which is why I clarified. Are you incapable of reading now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:20 PM
1

A woman who orgasms is still more likely to be ripe and ready to go even after orgasm so it's not even really a big point to be concerned about Regardless even if we discount the orgasms the satisfaction level is already going to be higher on the man from simply bj
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:05 PM
1

Incapable? No. Very hard for them to do? Yes. When it comes to dating purposes that is.. unless they dated around a lot. And I'm not talking about disrespect here. I'm talking about pedestalizing them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:04 PM
1

You been saying a lot of things that don't really relate to my point. Atrocious is extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:57 PM
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Can be is not the conversation most people are not going off the slim chance that it can be sensational for the woman getting head from the guy standing up Most guys can absolutely come from head but the idea woman that can come easily from standing up eating box is not easy or even if we're talking about just getting off it's probably more likely the guy does they're not going to take that extra mile and plus like I said it's not comfortable for the both of them usually
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:57 PM
1

No that would actually be yours because you're coping and you're lying just to save face
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:55 PM
3

Nope I'm talking about women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:54 PM
0

Lady shut it down at this point you just coping because you can't get off your square Your point is making even more a sense than just because a simple fact that you get mad about it doesn't make you more right. I don't even know what that first paragraph was just a word salad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:54 PM
1

But we both know you don't actually do that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:51 PM
0

They are gonna give more... because they are receivers. They are gonna be the ones usually penetrating... You are doing just a really heavy lawyer piece of women on being selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:11 PM
1

It's not hard for you because you don't live the life of a man sooo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:09 PM
1

We can love and still get sick of you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:55 PM
1

The dating world is fucking doomed than I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:55 PM
1

So what are they doing the whole time then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:51 PM
1

I' actually love women believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:50 PM
-3

That's a big if...I'm saying with most of their partners in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:50 PM
1

You are still paid for sexual favors regardless of if you back out or not. Still prostitutiom
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:49 PM
1

That's ironic because that's EXACTLY what they would get 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:48 PM
1

First off you made two assumptions that were false. I said giving oral is more uncomfortable in most settings that spontaneous because usually it is. It requires a woman to lay down usually for the best effects. Also I never said you can't eat out a woman standing up. But again that's not what most people hell even the women prefer and convenience wise it's less because a woman usually is a more uncomfortable position to get the full effects of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:45 PM
1

You just said women are the prize and should be treated as such also an escort is a prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:42 PM
2

It's SOOOO ANNOYING
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:40 PM
1

I will not. But on this topic tho it reminds that a woman would never get it soooo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:40 PM
1

I agree here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:40 PM
1

Definitely a prostitute mindset for sure... Go find you a sucker boo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:37 PM
0

Yeah it's also not common for women to stay down either..... And yeah that is the reason... Most dudes know it's awkward to do that unless it's actually a good setting for it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:36 PM
1

Figuratively speaking not literally
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:31 PM
1

Session? What ? No. I was gonna say debate on what I wanted to say in voice since typing is annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:30 PM
1

You got discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:29 PM
2

I'm saying most women are celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:28 PM
-1

Yeah i understand but Id say that's why the advice is lame. Most men cant reach that standard
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:28 PM
1

Girl if you want me so badly just say so... It's ok. Also. I can afford your rates. I'll pay you in bubble gum You seem to not understand that being a guy that strikes that balance of equal yet treated her like the prize is also expected. Which is why most guys can't reach it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:27 PM
2

Most people treat celebrities like they are above them so it makes sense that men do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:23 PM
1

You want me badly clearly 🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:22 PM
-3

Yeah they don't. And won't for a variety of reasons that work against them so yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:21 PM
1

Commented after the fact? Yeah you down bad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:21 PM
1

And yet you read it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:19 PM
0

Yeah yeah you and 95 percent of women say this.. you guys aren't new or original. This is not what I was arguing. I was just saying that they guy above was pushing Bs narratives
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:17 PM
1

It's much harder for a guy to not treat them as "humans" because we are always beggars
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:16 PM
3

I'm talking about pedestalizing them specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:16 PM
1

Other reason why men simply can't just treat women like humans because women are celebrities.... Also 4b isn't growing nearly enough to stop women from dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:15 PM
1

Ok then so you agree with my point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:09 PM
-2

No you just being boneheaded to see what you wanna see.... It is frankly TOO uncomfortable to try to eat box in most settings when it's not nearly as much to give head. A simple concept you're missing to die on this hill
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:05 PM
1

They aren't helpless but it's hard not too when you compare us to women. Alot of men are desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:04 PM
1

Well that's my whole point. The overwhelming majority of men cant imo not pedestalize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:33 PM
1

I'm aware people do things when they are horny. I've done it. So I know but again in most casual sex situations especially spontaneous... Giving box is a lot less convenient in those circumstances No there is no in other words. Read EXACTLY what I said. I said they are uncomfortable but they are gonna be THAT uncomfortable compared to the guy giving head. Because in your scenario the guy would be uncomfortable to pleasure the woman. So it would be a give and take on both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:32 PM
-1

The overwhelming majority can't. Which is the issue. Most men put women on pedestals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:30 PM
3

Can you just answer my question? 1st Question the answer is probably not 2nd question I don't so idk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:29 PM
-1

No... Because unlike popular beliefs women are very selfish lovers as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:27 PM
2

Do you think men can put women on a pedestal and do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:26 PM
2

They are being valued as people. They just are striking that balance that most people prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:23 PM
3

Maybe wording was a little off. Completely than like not human I was referring to pedestalizing them. Not mistreatment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:21 PM
1

Well you certainly were not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:19 PM
1

YOU had no issues I's the key word. Most people even women will tell you that car sex fucking sucks. And also most Americans don't even own sedan. It's only like 30 percent of car ownership. Sedans are designed to be more roomy but that's the obvious reason I didn't reference those because most have been in cars in mine No. It's not comfortable at all. But alot of women are more likely to do it at the heat of the moment then try to fit their legs over a guys head in a cramped as car where it's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:19 PM
2

Lol but on the real alot of guys treat more women with respect than alot of women like to promote but I won't get into that fully
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:12 PM
-5

What's wrong with any of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:11 PM

I'm just gonna stop engaging with most women on these topics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:10 PM
4

I know that but they have the luxury of wanting to be treated like equals why simultaneously being more valued .. I'm saying the advice itself is dumb because most guys could never strike that right balance because women live a different life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:09 PM
-4

No to none of those... But I'm talking about dating specifically tho. We won't live in a world where guys can treat women like they are on the same level because we Never have been
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:07 PM
-3

Reality women already do this men to a high degree. But no I'm not in favor of mistreating women nor pedestalizing them either My post is not saying that men SHOULDN'T treat women with respect or like equals... I'm saying the advice itself is hella cringey and overblown because most guys will NEVER Strike that right balance that women want. Especially considering the life's they live. Especially just because you told them to treat them human
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:06 PM
-22

No, we are all Homo sapiens. No we're not A good first step might be to overcome the enormous solipsism required to imagine that anyone who doesn't "live the life he does" isn't human. They aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:04 PM
3

No. If they are treating with disrespect certainly not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:02 PM
-10

In a way we can make strides to make ourselves more approachable. But the reality is women live on two entirely two different realities that we aren't gonna be able to fully "treat them " how they want because it's like a beggars versus choosers thing. We are always gonna be the beggars
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:02 PM
0

Those guys are usually right tho. The side he doesn't wanna show around his women than he usually shouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:00 PM
2

Wym?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:59 PM
-1

You think blowjobs somehow aren’t also more common in the bedroom outside of public sex..? No And that just sounds like an excuse tbh, you can lay a woman down in the back of a car or on a table for example and eat her out, if you don’t have access to a bed. And that tells me you haven't had a lot of car sex. It can be EXTREMELY uncomfortable to try to lay a woman down in your back seat and eat box. Trust me. I've done it multiple times. Most people don't own navigatkrs or range rovers so the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:58 PM

You are married of course of you haven't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:36 PM
0

I TAKE HEAVY OFFENSE to your claims. Men are not "missing out" on incredible sex because of sex laziness. They aren't even getting a choice to have sex. Most women just don't wanna have sex with them at all.. please don't get the two conduy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:36 PM
-1

And they still find partners. Don't try to make it seem like women not going out and not using apps is them preferring to stay single and they ACTUALLY Stay single because they still don't. Women still are getting relationships regardless. It is recruit difficulty after all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:35 PM
-2

Not true at all. Their are PLENTY of women's that are very vocal about not giving head...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:32 PM
-3

That's has NOTHING to do with women wanting to give more pleasure to their men and almost EVERYTHING to do with convenience Giving Blowjobs is easier to do at the drop of a hat especially in public settings in comparison to eating box.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:31 PM
12

Lilith of Babylon posting more brain rot as always
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:46 PM
0

That's exactly what I said. You might not value the compliments but you guys are getting MORE than enough compliments. I feel it's more than enough because compared to men we never get compliments and y'all live the life of mini celebrities
/r/seduction22/05/26 11:51 AM
1

Lady we do not need to do a poll on every woman to know that the overwhelming majority of women are getting compliments It's insanely obvious just look at any woman who gets on social media who's getting it insane amount of matches or messages If you haven't noticed let me fill you in women are insanely valued and guys are insanely not. So the majority of guys are desperate and we'll go after any women because they simply don't have options So yes the overall majority of women do get compliments…
/r/seduction22/05/26 03:40 AM
2

The OVERWHELMING majority does
/r/seduction22/05/26 03:15 AM
-1

You still should buy her a drink
/r/seduction21/05/26 01:24 AM
3

I don't compliment women they get enough compliments already
/r/seduction21/05/26 01:23 AM
1

They do know what ALL they want but they know they want men to do all the work
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:33 AM
1

Women just want men to do all the work
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:47 AM
1

I don't know what the fuck is that first paragraph. I will not say stop saying these things. And if you think women are too much work is disgusting then you got issues. Also I'm not claiming black pill is true nor is most of their rhetoric Lady shut the hell up. Because yo wouldn't know what it actually takes to get women...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:03 PM
1

Obviously for women it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:01 PM
0

But unfortunately that's not how life works .. guys that are not celebrities or gigachads have to work for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:17 AM
1

Results as in sex, relationships, and actual dates
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:14 AM
0

Sounds are deceiving. And who are you to tell me to approach as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:34 AM

You don't give him rimjobs so it doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:51 AM
1

Alot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:16 AM
-1

You picking my brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:14 AM
1

Most of this is hypothetical so what is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:05 AM
1

Men can wanna date women and still find it too much work depending on how much results he gets
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:04 AM
1

No it's like being a killer. You should know that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:52 AM
0

That is total bullshit but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:41 AM
1

Well when it comes to that many bodies they might as well be 😭🤣🤣😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:38 AM
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I'm aware of this... I don't get on dating apps But if only half of women under the age of 30 have not even gotten on dating apps then that just makes it a hundred times worse for guys because that means women are basically many celebrities that guys have to compete with to get It's like getting in line
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:02 AM
0

Do you honestly think that guys say women are too much work because they don't want to go on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:00 AM
1

Are they everJustified?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:53 AM
1

Yeah for you I think we are well aware that if you were a guy it will be totally different
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:51 AM
2

I think the problem is most guys don't feel wanted by the old woman majority of women and on top of that they have to do the overwhelming majority of the work and the initial phase of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:34 AM
2

Yeah said they don't like women and only want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:19 AM
-1

Ok so what works is she putting in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:10 AM
-1

I obviously know that because there are double standards that exist for men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:50 PM
-1

What effort is the woman putting in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:48 PM
-8

I'd argue women don't have to work as hard usually
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:42 PM
-2

Isn't getting sex alot of work regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:32 PM
4

That's wild
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:21 PM
-1

FACTS
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:21 PM
0

We had this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
-3

Why is that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
0

Why
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
3

Do you not think that men actually try?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
2

Why do you assume they didn't actually like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:18 PM
-2

Why do you assume that the men don't wanna date?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:17 PM
2

20+ in general is not insane to have but generally most people's life partners are around 7-12 partners. For straight people at least. But even then that's still a lot to have over 20+. 50+ is very outside the norm. That's much rarer. Again. Alot of girls can get sex easily so it's not hard for them to do... But genuinely the 50+ girls aren't as common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:33 PM
0

Well it depends on how old you are... I'm 29. A girl can easily get around so id say for a girl around my age.... 10-20 bodies is on the higher end for me but somewhat still reasonable Over 20 is when I start thinking they had their ", fun " phase and imma backup option
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:22 PM
2

I'd still disagree with you that most red pill in Mansfield men are extremists that are a part of cult... That in a nutshell is kind of extreme But yes most men don't subscribe to redpill rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:16 PM
0

Well let them be alone then. Also it depends on what they mean by sleep around. I'd say for me a girl that has slept around a decent bit is fine... Slept around A LOT id different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:14 PM
1

Well I kinda agree. Most men aren't redpill. Also I don't think all of redpill and manosphere is extreme. A loud decent number are tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:13 PM
0

Again... You are using the worst examples of men that are borderline cartoon characters. Even most redpill of red pill men have cooled off and tell you that they don't require these arbitrary ass dating rules. Most men will date you if you cute and loyal. You can broke, lazy, and a headcase and they'd still date you .. This is just an example of you just not going outside enough and taking some extreme guys standards to heart. Hell even those extreme red pill guys aren't common
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:10 PM
2

Act in what way tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:58 PM
3

I'm so sick of you guys using the worst examples to back up your points...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:45 PM
0

Some use it as manipulation. Some don't. A girl always wants a guy to wait because it she knows it gives her more power the longer she makes you wait. And gives up power the faster she gives it up. Both of course the hotter you are the less likely she'll follow this rule
/r/seduction13/05/26 11:12 PM
1

No it's not dude... Jesus this is the reasons guys struggle is because of misleading information
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:18 PM
1

That sounds like you'll just make a bunch of aquaintances and friends
/r/seduction09/05/26 10:32 PM
1

It sounded like you trying address on average... But I don't have a high ego or fear of rejection and still can't get em... It's another factor here
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:31 PM
2

Who has the right conclusion?
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:21 PM
1

That' first sentence is not even close to being true. Plenty of studies and evidence counter acts that. Women almost never in a general consensus have as libido or as horny as men on average Id argue that those things to learn are harder to learn but entitled to your opinion
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:00 PM
1

My problem is most women say this because all you hear is how bad their options are
/r/seduction09/05/26 02:14 PM
1

Not really giving me much with that
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:54 AM
1

But your entire premise is based on the fact that you say it's easy and if it was so easy then this site wouldn't exist so it's not easy
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:49 AM
1

I've done it for 10 plus years I'm not going to get it
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:04 AM
1

You clearly have game. Congratulations
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:27 AM
1

I am... I just think you're being realistic and I forgot what you said. It just sounded like you were saying approach girls that are into you
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:26 AM
1

Ok so what exactly are you reading then?
/r/seduction08/05/26 11:54 PM
1

So you literally just mean reading which women are already into you
/r/seduction08/05/26 11:11 PM
1

Read situations like what? I'm curious
/r/seduction08/05/26 10:36 PM
0

Dude you need to stop getting me confused with looks maxxed guys. I never said looks is the only factor at play. I'm saying most guys don't have success unless they have a lot of games or approaching girls that are clearly into them
/r/seduction08/05/26 10:10 PM
1

If what you were saying was true then all guys would need to do to get a girlfriend it's cold approach but that's not exactly happening is it?
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:47 PM
0

No it's never that simple it's really dumb to assume this You need to have an above average level of skill usually to get a girl's number unless you are specifically picking the girls that are already into you
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:43 PM
1

And you're blocked. Also you completely lost that bet
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:38 PM
1

Dude .... You're blocked
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:37 PM
1

I don't believe it is. It just makes you more adept at taking rejection for the most part and being a masochist
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:36 PM
1

Not cold approach
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:35 PM
0

Because cold approach has very little success rates for men
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:35 PM
1

I think I've met more than enough women to know what they are thinking
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:34 PM
1

The issue with your premise is that you assume the other 50% are meeting through cold approach they are not And no you aren't missing an opportunity because that woman is very unlikely to pick you anyway I think we can suggest based off the many guys that hold approach and get no success
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:33 PM
1

It'a not as easy as you're making it but props if it's easy for you
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:31 PM
0

You don't have to be a male model but you have to have really high cold approach skills which most men don't have
/r/seduction08/05/26 08:11 PM
1

Yeah but most men cant and don't operatevt that way. It's basically a pain Olympics only meant for masochists
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:43 PM
1

Who do what? Cold approach? Most aren't good at it
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:40 PM
2

If most guys had the right vibe then we wouldn't be having a conversation about it. Most guys would get gfs no problem
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:40 PM
-2

Id heavily argue that going for girls that look less attractive would still en futile because most girls aren't gonna be that receptive unless you are very above average with cold approaching Also I'm not saying people shouldn't improve the issue is cold approaching and cold calling is different Cold approach is a lot more personal when you get rejected
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:24 PM
1

How?
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:22 PM
1

Yeah but the overwhelming majority of men won't ever get better enough to matter. They'll approach sure but their mental will feel like shit because all what happens is they feel like shit all the time straining themselves approaching women all day and most of the women don't like em
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:17 PM
1

I'm trying but again it's taking me a while
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:13 PM
0

That's why I say guys who cold approach well should cold approach
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:49 PM
0

That's my thing the overwhelming majority of men aren't good at it so whats the point of approaching?
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:47 PM
1

The overwhelming majority wont
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:47 PM
0

Most guys aint Hank Moody bro stop it
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:46 PM
0

Ist kinda dumb hope at this point because being an average man is no hope
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:43 PM
1

Yeah I'm more a fan of warm. Only problem is I never get eye contact from women
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:34 PM
4

Yeah but their are a lot of guys that don't go out as much and on top of that the girls can be more catty and more stuck up at night especially if they are in groups
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:33 PM
-1

Yeah it FUCKING pisses me off because they make it sound like it's a Hallmark movie. Like no dude. That only works IF you are really good at Cold Approach or INSANELY lucky
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:28 PM
0

Most guys
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:27 PM
1

Yeah but most people will go off that and makes sense. If you're more likely to get mauled by a bear while visiting a certain area then people aren't gonna show up to that area
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:26 PM
8

Hundreds is insane
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:25 PM
-1

Most guys DON'T Have the right vibe is my point. You're talking from a place of experience. Most average guys dont make a big enough impression on women when it comes to "vibes" to get women to want to date them.
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:18 PM
-4

Yeah so unless most guys are masochists they aren't gonna be into it
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:16 PM
2

Yes I know that. But it's a better alternative than cold approaching as an average man I don't think they do. This dating coach I read swears by this too but I also think he's full of shit. He just doesn't understand it because he can get men dates if he knows how to run the interaction
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:14 PM
0

1.Most average to below average men. Which in a nutshell is most men 2.Warm approach or just hope I get lucky Lots of things. Lack of money, drive, and learning certain skill sets Because I know women. And I've approached enough to know. That's the issue. Alot of guys are simply promoting that the approach itself is usually enough to make a difference and it isn't. 5.wtf are you talking about?
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:12 PM
1

It was text to speech dude calm down
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:06 PM
2

The reality is most guys would rather approach less because it is a massive waste of time considering how many losses you will have. I get kind of why Cold approach exist though because the reality is most men are not going to be getting signals from women if not ever
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:06 PM
6

Of course you say that
/r/seduction08/05/26 03:48 PM
6

Because girls are complicated and you have to basically pass a midterm to date them
/r/seduction08/05/26 03:48 PM
10

I think you're overestimating it. Alot of guys ARENT single by choice. Alot of guys aren't attractive to women. So if these men are so called attractive then you have to hear them say so because they might believe they are attractive when you do. Also women are insanely complicated
/r/seduction08/05/26 03:46 PM

You better look really fucking good if you this cocky
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:33 PM

No because it's too tiring to repeat what I said.. and I actually do wanna have a conversation that gets somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:08 PM

This is honestly a lot to respond to do you have some form of talk chat or Discord? I sent a hell of long rude message because I was just too tired to read through it but honestly I shouldn't have done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:37 PM

No they fuck they are not you a coping actually hard right now. You don't really know. You would last a month as a man because you'd probably wanna just Sister sage yourself. It's awful. And yes there are a lot of shit men but so is their women. You guys got so much privilege that you're oblivious to that you don't see how hard it is on one side. That fact that you have the balls to say otherwise is telling how privileged y'all got it Guys getting there dick wet is not all of guys problems and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:35 PM

Yeah you have it easy.... If you had to be a guy for 6 months you'd understand all the bad things guys have to deal with. Getting pussy and relationships is easy for women. Regardless of if they are dating men or women. Just not as easy as men. But little do you actually know 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:54 PM
1

That's really fucked. They didn't know how good they had it so therefore they are trying to hold on to what they previously had I'm going to be completely honest with you and I know it how this is going to sound but I was at one point kinda that guy that hit up my old ex a bunch of times too when I fucked up after she blocked me so yeah Im not gonna act like I'm high and mighty. I loved that chick.... She had a short leash 🤣😭😭🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:36 PM
1

Sheeesh... Where are these men spawning from? I always assumed the men that have this sort of manipulative take no prisons selfish types were usually easy to spot but I guess not. Taking your credit is a whole level of violation that's almost worth getting thrown under the jail. My credit got completed fucked from my parents using my card so I can't imagine your spouse doing it without your knowledge. Bro is legit fucked. Get em banned 🚫. Ion be understanding people like that. Shit is so wild. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:32 PM
1

You got discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:55 PM
0

I think we are getting it confused. Most men are ok with below average women for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:32 PM
2

How is my reasoning not basic level?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:53 PM
2

The people who had to wait a long time aren't attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:44 PM
1

That is what is usually means. Attracted people are more likely to be in a relationship so you're statements are actually the casual ones
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:09 PM
1

But yours is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:46 PM
1

Bitch learn to listen then. I clearly addressed red pill men so it the damn subject Also no. Most men in general want above average women. Who they choose to date is a lot less even when it comes to redpill men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:36 PM
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It is because the people who have to wait forever are usually not desired and spend very long periods lonely. And then when they do find partners is because they are usually settled for...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:34 PM
1

No. Most guys aren't red pill. The point was that most guys wouldn't enter rp to enter that red pill rage phase. Also most guys wouldn't care that much if queer women were into because they don't have high standards nor alot of options
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:38 PM
-1

Dude get the fuck outta here with your bullshit. If the bar was on the floor then red pill wouldn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:30 PM
1

You're not below average enough for women to hit on you and/or you probably have an x factor that compensates
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:57 PM
1

So? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:48 PM
1

You don't have to be hot for women to hit on you but you might be a butt average
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:34 PM
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Alot of men don't tho. You could argue that a lot do form relationships eventually but you don't really know how long they had to reasonably wait to get that relationship and nine times out of 10 is usually women get old so they settle more
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:34 PM
1

2
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:20 PM
2

Because you're conclusions are backwards as hell. How many men have you dated?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:48 PM
-1

No because they'd probably say they met all the right women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:48 PM
0

Make a tinder account as an average straight man and you would 😭😂😭😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:47 PM
-3

No. You're conclusions is just hella bad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:42 PM
-5

Alot of women will disagree with you for this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:40 PM
2

Well most men are unnattractive to women by default. So most men are gonna chase women who don't like them. It's the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:39 PM
3

You haven't dated enough women 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:38 PM
-2

I don't think you do honestly based on the comment you said about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:38 PM
-3

Wrong as hell. She just made a assumption and very problematic gender generalization on men that's based on little experience so no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:37 PM
2

That applies for both preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:42 PM
-3

Im aware thanks for your input
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:41 PM

Well its clear that your clearly don't understand people that well
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:37 PM
2

Wym
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:36 PM
0

I know that. But they still go to a period of trying to date women where they have to find out the differences between dating both
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:22 PM
0

Not really because their are alot of lesbians that came out late
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:16 PM
3

I don't agree. Not giving a fuck does not usually alone get you women
/r/seduction06/05/26 11:30 AM
1

Sorry about that. Was walking my dog. That's wild though. So I'm your experience the older men are just as bad as young guys? Or have you noticed they have more problems? I assumed every older guys was girls dream since they have experience and big beards
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:16 AM
1

Well games is a little bit of something that's gonna stick. Alot of guys haven't fully learned how to communicate what they really want.... But hey if they play games you have my permission to put em away and I'll hide their remains. I've watched Breaking Bad so I know the perfect solution
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:59 PM
1

I think realistically? Most wouldn't care if you look good and you're attracted to them. Most guys don't care that much if the girl looks good. The problem is most women don't like dating younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:35 PM
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I'm proud of you. You rare. Most older women don't like younger dudes. It's very rare nowadays. I don't personally go after older women usually because of that because they always giving me the run around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:04 PM

Real shit.... Most men go through life aimless not feeling normal because they can't form relationships and get those hookups and experiences they want consistently. So it's a lot of nights where it's just the same old tune. Dancing with yourself gets hella old pretty fast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:38 PM
2

I have no clue mate, Such a stupid fucking update
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:16 PM
2

Why did they take the ability to just quote with the highlight and copy feature?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:18 PM
1

So put the greater sign?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:18 PM
1

I will not....I'm locking you in my basement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:38 AM
1

I'm definitely uggo that's why I don't have success with women honestly. It's a humiliation ritual
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:19 AM
2

Don't laugh at me wamen 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:17 AM
3

Why isn't it working for me!!!!!??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:48 PM
3

It won't let you on mobile anymore. That's fucking stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:27 PM
3

You don't need to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:13 PM
2

When the blue hell did they EVER care....? 🫩🫩🫩🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:13 PM
1

If argue don't have a good enough argument either other than they provide 😺. And society dictates that they are the more important sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:11 PM
-3

No but we are gonna be shedding tears or be all that caring when they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:10 PM
6

Too be fair this is very true. I would delta if I could
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:09 PM
0

How do you do that? It' doesn't let me do it on my phone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:08 PM
2

No you said like yours. I'm asking what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:36 PM
5

It's not their fault no. But that's kinda my thing. That's exactly why I don't feel bad for their dating woes. Because it's always...Men and women different.. Which is a roundabout way of saying.... They are women... You have to impress them... Now I see why guys always upload that Dancing Jester meme
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:36 PM
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I find it weird that reddit doesn't let you quote people anymore. Very weird Also I find it also weird of this shaming language you chose to use. Because let me assure you and everyone else who doesn't approve of what of say to start their shaming language brigade ... Men NEVER needed empathy to get women. Some of the biggest womanizers I know are sociopaths. And they can still get women to want for relationships just as easily
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:34 PM
0

Dating woes like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:15 PM
3

I can agree to this to a high degree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:14 PM
1

But unfortunately that's not how life works. Should and what actually happens are different
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:22 PM
1

THANK YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:09 PM
1

They not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:37 PM
1

No they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:36 PM
1

Nah. They just recalling alot of stuff women are entitled for
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:43 PM
1

Actually no. Most don't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:29 PM
1

Not all but most
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:21 PM
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Yeah insanely rare enough that it seems a waste of time to mention it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:21 PM
1

Yep you women being entitled and all makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:20 AM
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No. It was already a thing regardless. It's cheap and gets the person moving and no fancy expensive dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:01 AM
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Exactly. And getting to know someone. You can still do that on a park walk
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:08 AM
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Yeah but you're not the one planning the date. So obviously it's easy to say. Also a date is getting to know someone first. Sexy is stuff that's reserved for the rich bad boys in girl books
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:49 AM
1

I think it's a perfect plan
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:48 AM
-1

Also no they don't really Approach men they like
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:48 AM
-1

How often do you get women to agree to a meet up instead of a date because I like this framing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:17 AM
1

Don't thank me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:32 PM
1

God you're difficult So we can discuss this without typing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:27 PM
1

It's a simple question. I'm asking do you have discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:38 PM
1

U got discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:34 PM
1

I need a post on you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:28 PM
0

No you don't. You're justification for laziness is maddening
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:50 PM

This is the coldest take ever
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:34 PM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:46 AM
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I don't give a fuck about your end. You are just one guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:53 PM
5

Nah. I'd Rather play PGTFOMF my Young thug
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:53 PM
1

They are planning to not get mauled. That doesn't directly help them get dates. I'm saying directly as far as finding a partner is WAYYYY harder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:51 PM
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29 how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:05 PM
1

I know that. That doesn't mean the amount of work we have to do isn't unfair to an absurd degree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:04 PM
2

I know.... That was the joke
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:03 PM
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You sound hung up on the idea that most women don’t like most men. Why? Cuz it makes it harder for a man to find partners Because you don’t need most women to be into most men. You just need one woman to be into you You're fortune cookie advice is just so unbelievably stale Like no dip? Obviously you need one person to like you but that's not how life works is it? One person could like you and you could probably not like them or vice versa or probably that same person that you like also like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:42 PM
1

If I show you the cover art for an album you've never heard, by a band you haven't heard of, you can like the cover art. You can't like the songs. Sure but you can still like a person regardless of if it's just surface level. And again news flash like I just said before some people will like certain people that they don't connect with all that well If he doesn't know who she is, she could be replaced with a different person, as long as they looked the same. His opinion of both women would be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:40 PM
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The problem with your statement is that you're making it out to be like there is plenty of options for me to not choose those same women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:38 PM
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It's still valuable because casual sex with a passablr guy is a lot better then no sex and no relationships with anybody passable. Also women have more opportunities for relationships than just casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:37 PM
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What you're missing is that different men and women are into different men and women. Yeah attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:36 PM
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She's not taking into account that it's much harder for men to actually get into one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:35 PM
2

Mind controlling?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:35 PM
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This doesnt have to be work. You can look at it as fun. I could but then I will remember is how much work I'm doing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:44 PM
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Didn't say most men are incels. There are more male incels than fem cells in case you couldn't read
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:43 PM
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OP uses his personal experience as an introverted, indecisive man and contends that "Dating for straight men is entirely TOO MUCH WORK". Introverted and indecisive... You must live next to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:42 PM
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I'm thoroughly flabbergasted.. you sick fiend
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:42 PM
1

Don't you okie dokie me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:41 PM
3

No not really
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:51 AM
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Sex options not dating options Yes they are. Sex options is better than no options. And most women aren't gonna date men they aren't willing to have sex with. And most men are willing to date most women. They also want fast sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:20 AM
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Men finding most women visually attractive isn’t actually them finding most women attractive as partners. I literally said this. Not everyone is gonna find you a lucrative partner but still be attracted to you. But I'd argue men would date more women than the former This is where the social skills and game come in. Obviously not true for all men especially if very unattractive but most people are average - neutral which is all you really need to become attractive to most average women. This stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:19 AM
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Most women are fat and poor just like most men so attractive men are picky with their dating options like attractive women are with their sex and dating options. No. Women have far more options in spite of being fat and poor. And attractive males are extremely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:10 AM
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So if dating is already too much work... Women couldn't handle the dating phase like we could so ...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:10 AM

No. You're blocked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:09 AM
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Yes, as much as men. And as expected as men. No this is wrong. Not even close. When was the last time you ever heard of women approaching men, asking them out on dates, paying for the first date, asking for a guys number, planning a date? You've probably heard it but it's not as common as men do it. It's actually much rarer Do you think women don't worry about how they sound in text? Or how to have an engaging conversation? Etc etc. Do you think women just sit there mute and not thinking? You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:08 AM
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No one likes most people No. Most men are at least somewhat attracted to most women Why should women like most men? The idea is to like 1 person. I didn't say they should like most men. It's the fact they find the overwhelming majority of men Unattractive is why it's so much work for men because most of the opposite sex doesn't want them The idea is to like 1 person. Cool cool. On paper. But the reality is you can never really like one person and expect that to help your life. Because that one p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:06 AM

B🐶tch ass P🐱ssy I won’t because that’s rude and not helpful…. Most passive aggressive thing I've heard In ages
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:03 AM
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Women do the following things too: Not as much as men. Not even close men are usually Expected to do all of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:41 AM
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It's hard to form my thoughts completely on text I'm saying that a man has to do far more to work to even get a relationship is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:40 AM
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That’s not why modern dating is hard for men. It’s hard for men because women are no longer compelled to be with men for financial security. That's not the only reason or the major one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:35 AM
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Please explain how men put in more work? In detail. Be very specific. Approaching women, making conversation, making them comfortable, being more proactive with flirting, relating back to them, being funny, making the conversation fun but not too fun and lowkey serious, being aggressive with being pushy, asking for her number, texting her in a suave way, asking her out on a date, planning around her schedule, setting up the date, planning the date, Taking her out, paying the bill, repeat multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:35 AM
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Wait hold up don't leave
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:31 AM
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Even then... Barely
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:28 AM
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Yep and that requires much more effort and work than the initial stages of dating Maybe for women Are you happy to put that effort and work in to maintain a relationship??? It depends on the amount
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:28 AM
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Dating is work for women too. Not as much Men don't put in more effort. Yes they do What the heck is "unnecessary work" in regards to dating? They put in a fuck ton more work to attract and get women that goes nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:27 AM
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Maybe but until then I'm gonna be in a rut because I know how long it will take for me as a man to get to the point where I can get consistent results if I even get that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:26 AM
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Some bullshit... Just be confident bro manosphere talking points for guys who never struggle with women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:25 AM
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Ok and these repeated failures… again if it’s making a low effort tinder profile, sending a few “heys” to the few matches you might scrape up and maybe even once telling a crush you liked her then you haven’t really tried. If it’s also just trying to dress better and go to places like a club without actually working on talking to people or hoping for a woman to hit on them then again you haven’t reallly tried. A lot of projection here you need to slow your roll. Because you don't really know a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:24 AM
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Hard to say for real. I think it would be better of it was the same effort for women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:21 AM
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I think it should take a decent amount of effort sure it's a relationship you value then try to make it work sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:16 AM
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But just because you are not capable of clearing the bar does not mean that the bar has been set too high. The majority of men mind you Also of course you're gonna say that you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:14 AM
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I mean that’s exactly what it sounds like it’s literally the title, if not what are you saying??? Only if you're disingenuous. Or just really Adamant about making false equivalencies Sayinh dating is too much work for men does not equal relationships should require no work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:14 AM
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If you are discouraged from even trying then how do you actually know it’s that hard? Sounds like you’ve (or are asserting that many men have) given up before even trying. That's not what I'm impying at all. I'm implying that most men have tried and have given up after repeated failures
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:12 AM
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I don't give a shit? Find something to argue about or move the hell on. I'm not here to win YOUR approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:11 AM
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Do they ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:08 AM
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You guys are jumping to conclusion that me sing too much work is the equivalent of me saying I don't want any work or I don't expect any work It's not what that means and that's not what I was implying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:08 AM
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Dating is supposed to be work. Just more work for guys right,m Why are y'all against putting in effort? Don't you dare for a second try to make it seem like that men aren't the ones willing to put in the work because we put in more work than you guys do We aren't against putting in work it's just the unnecessary amount of work we have to do to get a little results
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:07 AM
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"pattern recognition." Something alot of racists and bigots say btw lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:06 AM
1

So you are here just to troll. I got you fam. Lemme block you so you can argue with the wall
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:06 AM
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I didn't say it should be easy however it's hard enough to wear most men are discouraged from trying hence the Incel and red pill rage culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:04 AM
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Nothing. It would just be nice to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:55 AM
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The Truth. That it is too much work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:50 AM

I just said you got me? you tryna double net me? 🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:50 AM
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For you, dating is too much work for you. Other men dont seem to have that problem. Wrong. MANY MANY men struggle with this problem which is why male incels are a thing and femcels are not really a thing. Theyre going about their lives dating, getting into relationships etc without issue. Wrong. Very few guys like this exist in a grand scale
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:49 AM
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No, this is simply men blinded by thirst thinking they have a chance with a girl who sends out 1 word replies. Yall be wasting your time, energy and self esteen on attention whores. If a girl enjoys your presence she'll give you a BJ while youre busy beating the rubik cube WR with a podcast about being a train conductor in the background For some men yeah. But most women don't like most men like that so obviously the men that can get this are lucky. Most women don't do this with most men they me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:48 AM
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Not really, improve your looks and don't be too autistic. Nah. Oversimplified. If a girl wants to spend time with you, she won't make it difficult. You won't have to jump through many hoops with a girl who's open to dating you. If you have to go above and beyond, the date was already DOA. You have to jump through hoops to get her attracted if your aren't very physically attractive tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:47 AM
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Unless you're trans, I'm not sure how you can say that with such confidence. Lame dudes and fuckboys are barely the tip of the iceberg and you really have no idea what it's like on the other side. Actually I do because I had a ton of trans friends for a phase. And they said it was much harder dating for men. Unless you count my close trans friend who only always liked women and pulled tail regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:44 AM
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That's you and your friends. Sorry I don't care how not entitled they are. Good for them if they aren't Your friends aren't most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:43 AM
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Have you considered that your view that dating is too much work for straight men may also be an exception and that actually the norm is that most men can actually get dates etc no problem. No. Because that's not what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:41 AM
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Men aren’t into most women and women aren’t into most men No. Don't agree. most men are into most women. Doesn't mean they'll date them long term overall but that's a different conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:40 AM
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Partnership requires effort up front and throughout the entire relationship. Just a crap ton more for men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:40 AM
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Lazy low testosterone man wants Miss America to beg him for a relationship. Alot of projecting here Batman. Someone pissed in your cereal?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:39 AM
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U telling me like this ain't public knowledge 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:39 AM
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The reality is it's still really really hard to attract and get those women that you want because you have to go above and beyond to get them going on a date with you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:38 AM
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Only if you can get her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:38 AM
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Yes. Which means you should be able to spot a waste of time very early into a match/date and limit the frustration. Not really because most men are not attractive so they have to deal with that regardless. Most women are still not going to be into them all that much Also if youre into most women it just means youre thirsty af. Jerk off, then dm that girl News flash most men of thirsty as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:37 AM
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Men could essentially 1 up them, and access the 70,000 women all around the world would marry them because they are significantlymore successful than the men in their country just by being American. There is enough beautiful women in the 3rd world to supply every man in the 1st world with an attractive girlfriend. 70k is crazy. I don't think the guys are anywhere near that insane not even close But you're right you do have a better chance of dating women overseas the problem is I don't have enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:35 AM
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I am saying women make plans and pay, too. 🫩🫩🫩 I question my sanity Everytime women do this. Why do you guys do this? Just because their are women exceptions doesn't make them the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:34 AM
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And yet, many couples also met doing shared activities. Funny how that works. It's becoming the norm for them not too. Also good for them doesn't reflect me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:33 AM
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You wanna do call?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:32 AM
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Damn everyone is on it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:32 AM

Yep you got me. Send me your number since you love incels so much. I'm on discord since that's where all the incels reside I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:31 AM
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Im confused on what your whole point was?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:29 AM
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Still very much so harder. Finding girls to date is ALWAYS hard. Most are in relationships and most have strict rules about dating people in certain circles because everyone hits on them and they only want men to approach them (Sometimes) at bars and clubs but who they hell wants to deal with that bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:28 AM
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Seriously, does it make it any easier for you to perseverate on the idea that it looks easier for someone else? Because you're reminded every day about how unbelievably hard it is compared to your life and how much longer you wanna put up the fancy monkey routine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:26 AM
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Women choose places and pay, too Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:25 AM
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If it feels like work she isnt into you. Most women aren't into most men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:25 AM
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Men could easily solve this if they removed the stigma of a "mail order bride" and dated one of the thousands of women all around the world who make $3 an hour who would marry them tomorrow. Funny but no
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:24 AM
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I mean, you could put in a lot less effort and land less good girls. Not me. Some attractive guys can but not me I know plenty low self esteem, mostly unattractive girls who give the world to men who treat them with indifference. Change your target group and you'll be amazed at the results. Good for them. They don't want me and any other men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:24 AM

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:23 AM
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I'd rather meet people in real life but real life dating is still insanely hard for men just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:23 AM
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You know what the picture thing you're right about. I guess I kinda ranting there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:22 AM

Assuming and not reading fine print. Typical. Leave and don't come back because you're wasting my time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:03 AM
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I mostly am.... U got discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:45 AM

no it's not. that would be the case if I said that a 10/10 and a 5/10 had the same chance to pull the same girl, and if the 5/10 guy fails because of looks then it's a skill issue. but I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying to work on what you can work on (like softmaxing, working on conversational skills and being a likable person with a good personality), and don't let rejection put you down. you can work on some of the cons that you listed, wallowing is never going to help I didn't come here …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:24 AM

it seems like you aren't because you get a lot of talking points from the internet Where are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:23 AM
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Because it helps them date
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:21 AM

Not even close. You can like someone's face, and feel good while being around them, and have no idea who they are, let alone whether you like who they are. Sure you can but you can also like that person as well That misconception is how we get husbands who "don't know what to get her for her bday." He hasn't learned a single thing about who she is, her hobbies/interests, her inner life, or he would have a shitton of obv options. He's married to a body, not a woman. A husband not really knowing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:20 AM
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A man making money won't make much a difference either. Just attracts gold diggers. And having social ease does help women so this helps women just as much A woman doesn't maintain her looks for her entire life. A man can be a leader throughout his life. He can be rich all his life. And he can be fit for almost his whole life (at least until age 70). These are qualities that women of all ages are looking for. A woman can maintain her looks for as long as she wants. And be a feminine and attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:19 AM
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Very different
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:15 AM

Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:15 AM
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And it literally does not matter what percentage of men anyways. HALF of women will still be victims of sexual assault at least once in their lifetime. You keep taking these statistics and applying them to men as if it's at all relevant to how it effects women. Does that equate to them being SAd by their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:09 PM
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Your data isn't correct. Above 80% of women report sexual harassment or assault, and a very low fraction of them report it or seek care. With their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:40 PM
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Ok I added you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:24 PM
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You said skills last your whole life and won't improve for women's... Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:59 PM
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Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:58 PM
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Liking what she looks like, or how he feels around her, isn't liking her. Yes it is. Attraction is only at the top of the ladder if sex is the primary purpose of the connection. No. People genuinely like dating attractive people... I know shocker... Kinda silly to acknowledge that the avg woman isn't in it for sex, and then act like having lower physical sexual attraction than a man in a similar position is a bad thing. If I don't care that much whether a partner has X, and I pick a partner who …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:58 PM
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^<sup>those</sup> are mens dating "cons" that you listed. Literally none of those are even on the list of womens cons in yout OP. You seem to not understand the implications of the things you type out yourself.. I think you need to explain that better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:56 PM
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The cons outweigh the pros for men overall of we talking about actually getting partners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:55 PM
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What's your discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:54 PM
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Add my discord and I'll talk to you about it because I can't get my thoughts fully in texts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:40 PM
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I see it as an even exchange You're a woman. Privilege is invisible to those who have it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:34 PM
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Do u have discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:32 PM
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Stop making it sound like they're doing unpaid labor, No again it's an exchange It's an uneven exchange considering the amount of work a man has to put in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:21 PM
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Women can also make the effort that is not exclusive to me The con is if you suck at it then you won't get the results in most men suck at it for obvious reasons because it's a lot of heavy lifting on their back
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:12 PM
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Most guys in relationships aren't like that Most guys eventually get relationships if they wait long enough That is not the equivalent of them being successful data that is just the equivalent of them waiting long enough. Because most men will find partners if they wait long enough You're mistaking a man who gets causal sex from one who get into relationships, it's not as hard No I am not. You are. The men that are very successful data is consistently can get casual sex and relationships very ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:58 PM

Like? You aren't being specific
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:53 PM
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No its not exactly what you said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:52 PM
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Because in order to get what they want they have to be so unbelievably high In skill and effort to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:50 PM
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You want men to get what they want and get into relationships without initating and making an effort? No. That's not what I want. Relationships require effort. It's needed for any form of relationships. Even acquaintances
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:30 PM
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You are EXTREMELY bad at making points. I don't even know what you are arguing. It feels like you just typing. Are you not good at forming your thoughts through texts? Yeah no I disagree, you want all the benefits with no effort whatsoever Who the fuck said that? you just assuming? Because I didn't even imply that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:24 PM
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Yes. She wouldn't get anything out of it because the dating women happen because the women would refuse to initiate if the male didn't. That isn't the equivalent of men NOT doing far more work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:20 PM
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Oh god you are slow. There is far more work. Just because he gets something out of it does NOT mean that it invalidates the work. And that's only IF he gets something out of it. Which most men cant get at a consistent enough rate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:10 PM
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Of course, of course. Because for some reason, you want women to fix the "cons" of men instead of, I don't know, men fixing themselves Ok.... So now we lying? When did I EVER tell women to fix those cons?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:59 PM
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I'm failing to see why thats revelant. Both parties received something from dating. That wasn't my discussion. The overwhelming majority of time a man has to put in FAR more work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:58 PM
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Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:44 PM
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You are not making any points here. Just talking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:42 PM
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No no no. Don't misquote me. It is very much so a big con. I was arguing that it's not a big enough con to where if you compared them to men then men wouldn't have a bigger set of cons as men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:41 PM
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Geniunely, what are you talking about? So no clarification on your part but I absolutely need clarification? I was referring women learning how to have better personalities, being more proactive, or learning to look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:39 PM
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And men just so happen to have to make the overwhelming majority of effort to get consistent dating success
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:37 PM
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I said in my post that it was a con for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:35 PM
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I said for the most part. We aren't counting the other 70 percent of men who aren't getting assaulted by their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:34 PM
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Dating a man without having the back of your brain doing a risk assessment is just not an option. Risk assessment of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:32 PM
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All of the cons you listed for men are things that men can personally work on. Missing the point entirely. Yes they can work on it. Just like women can work on it too. The issue is that women usually DONT have to work on these things at all or very little in comparison. And even if they wanted to learn these things it's much easier to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:31 PM
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what does this have to do with what I said? you just strawman every argument that I make. I was simply using personality as an example to show you that you remove nuance with all of your claims Oh god you really are a brick wall. How in the hell do you respond with men have shitty personalities but you can't see the connection of me saying that shitty personalities it's not as revelant when it comes to successful dating for men. Because men are expecting to lead. Jesus Christ Batman are you just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:30 PM

The best thing for a man is to focus between his 20s and 30s on becoming as attractive as possible. This is advice that every man should have received from his father or an older male figure. That applies equally. I'm still struggling to find out why men have the advantage here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:22 PM
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Ummm no sir quite the opposite but okay. Not gonna explain why? it’s not common knowledge men tend to openly pursue women more. Ok. How is that a pro? Generally looking good and having kids babe. Older men don't generally look good to most women the only ones are the one s who actually make good effort to look good while older while that also applies to women. I could agree with having kids tho It’s literally going outside, talking to women then reflecting on the interaction while being positive…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:22 PM
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That's 20 percent of men. It's not a low number but that doesn't equate to most
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:17 PM
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Couldn't I also apply this logic for Male rape? because the number of women that experience partner assault and sexual assault is between 20 to 30 percent. Not that low but not above half either. Of women who report rape, about 13-14% report anal rape, That's not a low number but not high enough time to make it seem like this is a high likely of happened or close to happening
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:17 PM
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I don't consider women being really alone because they can get most men at any time if they ever "relapse" so to speak men cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:13 PM
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No. It's not. You been making a lot of claims that are the opposite of how things work and not giving a lot of reasons to back up those claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:58 AM
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that's not how it works. it would be a man problem if all men suffered from the same issues for no reason. if a large portion of men are single because of their shitty personality, is that a man problem? no that's a problem for the individual person. if a large portion of men are single because society doesn't deem them attractive, that's not anyone's problem it's unlucky and each person has their own journey with that. but saying it's just a "man problem" eliminates all nuance because men get r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:32 AM

I mean... They made themselves that easy to replace. Ehhh no Most men are that way regardless of whether they choose to It's much harder to be a dime a dozen guy. That's the issue It's much easier for women to be a dime a dozen because they have more inherent value and it's easier for them to improve
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:01 AM
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Ok... How does that invalidate my point besides misgendering you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:16 AM
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Sexual freedom is not the same as availability of sex. Sexual freedom is the ability to consent or not. Not having sex available to you is not an infringement upon any right. Being sexually assaulted however is, where then its do victims have recourse No. That's not what I meant by sexual freedom. Consent is paramount regardless of gender otherwise it's assault. I'm saying the sexual freedom to have sex without being slut shamed The vast majority of these assaults and homicides are perpetrated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:13 AM
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It doesn’t matter if most men are that though. That’s irrelevant. Enough men are like this for it to be a legit worry and something many of us have encountered. Enough of a worry. Yes. But saying it's not relevant when that's the ultimate thing you wanna avoid is pretty disingenuous. The ultimate goal is not to have a violent partner which happens but not common enough to where it's something that's worthy something being "irrelevant". It very much is relevant Also anal raped is so unbelievably …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:07 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:52 AM
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Good for you. You have success. Most guys don't have it like you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:50 AM
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You got a stat for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:42 AM
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Yes but most men aren't assaulting their partners. It's a risk but not as high as a risk as it looks from the surface
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:39 AM
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You're a woman your entire existence is Rose tinted glasses like come on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:34 AM
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News flash most men are not so miserable and undesirable they can’t find partners that make the pros of dating outweigh the cons. Sure they can. Because they find partners doesn't mean the pros are we the cons it just means the alternative is worse. Which is the alternative is being alone Just because they got a partner doesn't mean that the pros outweigh the cons get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:33 AM
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Maybe because I didn't list all of them but ultimately it is a lot harder to date as a man that is a given If I didn't list them all I can probably list more if requested But ultimately it's very bad lows for men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:28 AM
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Most men don’t need to be rapists for this to be something we’ve all heard from friends who have experienced it, and therefore have to worry about it. It is not uncommon, sadly. Men don’t hear about that from their friends and don’t have to worry it will happen to them. Yes but the reality is most men aren't this. We've heard stories sure we have I've heard plenty of stories from female friend myself. Most of the time the guy is being unnecessarily creepy and unnecessarily handy but it doesn't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:27 AM
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More often is the man. But it's still enough to be weary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:24 AM
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They don't shut up about men or loneliness even though they really aren't so I'm not gonna
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:23 AM
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Ugh. Screams pick up artists No. It's only fun if you're good at it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:23 AM
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Obviously it doesn't sound bad for you because you are a woman. You have most of the pros
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:22 AM
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Your title should be corrected to say ‘There are FAR too many cons than pros for dating for unattractive undesirable men’ News flash most men are undesirable and unattractive Your post reads like the reality of a male loser (no shade to you OP). That was definitely shade
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:22 AM
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Because dangerous relative and overall men have to deal with more danger period just not with partners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:21 AM
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Firstly not to soapbox but being born generally bigger, stronger, and being a lot less likely to be subject to S.Assault or sexism is a pretty nice perk we can’t over look dude and kind of means we win… that aside True it is a pro but not as much of a pro as you think because most males are not the extreme cases of being the type to assault people We get to be more “active” in our choosing verse women get much more volume but iffy quality. We can also better our odds more than women as well and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:21 AM
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A crazy woman can get another man to kill you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:17 AM
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Well. Most of em are ghosts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:17 AM
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You're just speaking for yourself bro. Pull back the Chad glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:17 AM
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So the cons outweigh the pros, to you Not to you obviously. A woman Some people don’t want to be alone, some people want to start families, and those pros might be enough to outweigh all the cons. Yeah they prefer that to being alone. That doesn't imply that they are for more cons. That just means you can win big if your successful which applies to anything. It's just much harder to be successful for men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:16 AM
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No it just tells me you want to confirm what you already believe I do give a fuck about what women go through the problem is that from me dating perspective we are far more handicapped
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:14 AM
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They are major things Sexual freedom is only given to the man who are the the top of the attractive totem pole which is in most men Less danger is a relative because men don't deal with as much danger when it comes to their partners but they do have to deal with heavy amounts of danger and everyday life because they are assaulted and killed way more And giving birth is just something that I would agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:13 AM
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Also the pro of having biological kids without having to give birth is quite a large pro, I agree again many men have strong desires to reproduce so would consider “having to approach” well worth the result. Not because the upside is so much worth it. It's just the alternative is so much more damaging Generally men don’t have to worry women will anally rape them if they decide to have sex. Most men aren't rapists. It's like saying women don't have to worry about getting as assaulted more because…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:10 AM
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Expected? By who?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:07 AM
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when did I say I disagree with this? I'm saying it's not "a con for men" as you say it is. if you're not succeeding because you're unattractive, then it's not a "men" problem, it's an unfortunate "you" problem It is a man problem because most men don't Succeed successfully with the opposite sex at a consistent basis if the man is flirting, the woman should also be flirting back. if she's not, then she's not into the man/going with his advances. and if a man is bad at flirting, that's a skill iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:05 AM
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Sure sure So pregnancy Trump's the pros for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:04 AM
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It's easier for both genders to be alone. No. It's easier for men. Less options means more lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:02 AM
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Because women don't so obviously it's free game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:02 AM
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I don't agree with this assessment at all you're only attacking it from the perspective of a woman. This is a very common thing that I'm tired of hearing and it's very much so overblown I almost guarantee you most of the men that date you like you. And have this weird notion that men are only attracted to a woman sexually and want nothing else You can argue that men are more sex crave the more sex starved and they are probably going to prioritize over anything but most of those guys aren't going…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:01 AM

Social skills, physical skills, or financial skills can help a man get what he desires. Even at a very advanced age. You only need one of these skills. Those are extremely hard to achieve to get at a high enough level to where you out yourself above most men in those categories. Men can reproduce until their death. If that's not a long-term advantage, I don't know what is. It becomes much harder for men to reproduce after 45 just like women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:59 PM
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No I'm saying they can't have what they want without an effort, and it generally isn't as hard as you're making it out to be Based on what? Because you said so? You haven't given me any reasons why? Casual is sex is hard and the effort it to have can be impossible, relationships tho are easy for most men Bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:22 PM
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So most women don't want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:15 PM

Men, as long as they play their cards right, can absolutely have wild sex into old age and then settle down with a pretty woman and have kids. Choosing isn’t giving up for a man, unlike for us. What exactly can a man have to play his cards right you didn't really mention a whole lot about the long-term advantages men have over women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:22 PM
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Not really it's like an exchange you make the effort to please and initiate and you get in return sex Your response and rebuttal is not doing you any favors. You reply with not really but you don't really explain why exactly it's not harder. You just explained that it's an exchange which again applies to both men and women. Sure something is being exchanged however that does not make your point when you look at the amount of effort the guy does on his behalf usually I'm not saying sex Isn't plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:17 PM
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Yes I get that but why are you always claiming it is a negative. The kind of the process of having a baby yes is very much so a hassle but you're only framing the negative as if women don't consent to also having babies with their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:15 PM
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Pregnancy is always bad and unwanted you dear summer child. Oh.... You're serious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:04 PM
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I didn't say they don't gain anything I'm saying the cons I outweigh the pros Anybody can get good results if they are good enough at something That applies for men and women It is just harder for men to be good at dating much much harder
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:04 PM
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You are also only speaking for yourself. Nobody is ditching guys they were interested in left and right because they didn't dance correct steps, Wrong See I'm not speaking for myself see that's what you got it wrong Their countless women online and men that have told the internet that there are tons of men that they have met that they were initially attracted to but they end up not liking in the end because the guy end up quote on quote "Fumbling the bag" Whether he flirted clumsily, whether or …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:58 PM
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You right it's not. But because of the cons it's makes it much easier for men to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:56 PM
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I know. Women are kinda the epitome of not being congruent with the narratives they virtue signal. Like being heavy into LGBTQ rights but being insanely homophobic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:47 PM
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I don't get it if it's that hard why do men still do it even more than women? Very obtuse response. They do it because they HAVE to. The alternative is being alone. And most women are never gonna have to really deal with loneliness because they have enough options to where they will eventually find a man that makes a move
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:45 PM
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You're just speaking for yourself. This comment means nothing for the general conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:44 PM
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And alot of women don't like bisexual men but will happily date bi women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:43 PM
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Oh god
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:42 PM
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Kinda proving why it's mostly cons
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:42 PM
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The cons you list are pretty similar, not exclusive to men, and don't look very bad compared to the pros. Explain how?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:41 PM
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That's a pro women also share so that's not really proving anything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:41 PM
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You seriously think the emotional risk of being rejected is "insane" in comparison to the risk of pregnancy and assault? You make it seem like pregnancy is always a bad thing.Unwanted pregnancy sure but the reality is most guys aren't rapists and most guys aren't serial assaulters for random women There's also higher infection risk for hetero women as compared to hetero men, as many STIs are more efficiently transmitted to anyone who is catching male ejaculate as compared to giving it. (Chlamydi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:41 PM

Explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:38 PM
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And what the hell are you arguing? I've never said that woman can't flirt. The obvious problem is.. men are usually the ones flirting and more directly because they are the ones that have to take initiative. Which again is harder to do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:38 PM
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This is not the take yourself by your bootstrap type post. If you want to promote that then good find a dandy If everybody was on a grower pair of trains and nobody would be lonely Highlighting the reasons why it's harder for men to break out of that lonely shell
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:37 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:36 PM
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higher risk of rejection and the opposite sex finding you unattractive are not cons for dating for men, that's more of a personality/looks thing How in the absolute hell do you come to this conclusion? If you have a higher risk of rejection that means you have a higher risk of not getting a relationship and if most people deem you as unattractive then obviously they don't want to date you how is this hard to grasp? flirting is something both people do, it's not just men. in fact, if one person i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:35 PM
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Women can also learn to flirt and seduce. And learning how to flirt and seduce is EXTREMELY hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:30 PM
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I'm saying. You have enough draft picks you'll always hit eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:29 PM
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I am just stating that yeah, yall have it better long term relationships but worse off in casual hookups etc How do we have it better for long term relationships? I noticed that a lot of women so unbelievably high privileged that it gives them a very flawed view on how much privilege men have because they are always projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:28 PM
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Who the hell said I was doing awesome things? I was highlighting that I am alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:26 PM
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Ok: then don’t date. Be alone and do the things you like. I'm already that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:23 PM
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Probably. But the pro, heck even one pro, can outweigh all the cons. I’d rather have one $100 bill than 100 quarters. So what's the pros for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:23 PM
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Where in my post did I imply that? I'd argue no. Because if men fail alot at the courting phase then they won't have a lot of long term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:22 PM
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Because men can't get sex as easily. So they value sex highly even if it's bad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:05 PM
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Because it's extremely hard for men to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:05 PM

It says only 9 percent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:00 PM

If anybody is suffering from instant gratification is women because of how replaceable men are for them Men don't really go through this effect unless you're talking about their very attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:31 PM

According to every GSS survey in the past couple decades, the majority of American men 18-29 are having sex at least 2-3 times a month (with many of them having sex more frequently than that). Clearly most men date and/or have sex. Where is that link?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:45 PM

Got any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:27 PM

They don't respect it half of the time. The probably will if it's another woman buying it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:22 PM

Well you do frequent this sub reddit so yeah more rp women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:21 PM

I agree. Better alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:21 PM

Wym all in?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:21 PM

Real people... Get on apps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:46 PM

It’s not a game with a countdown, if your only goal is to get through as many woman as you can as quick as you can, your 99% going to fail. You should be dating someone because you enjoy their company and hope for a future together. That’s what most woman do. Things on paper don't translate to reality. You can't afford to waste time on women who don't wanna date you long term because you don't have the options they do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:46 PM

Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:44 PM

Pot kettle. The number of men I know who haven't minded stringing on a woman until a better one comes along without any regard to her fertility is pretty damned high. Harsh but I could really care less about what your personal anecdotes tell you because usually a woman is going to date men that are desired by other women It's kind of like women saying all men cheat they're only talking about the men they're attracted to so for you you're only talking about the men that you are attracted to who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:28 PM

If I could give delta I would for this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:27 PM

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:47 PM

Most women don't have a line of men waiting to ask them out Apps say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:46 PM
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No shit they do because they are lazy and prefer everything to come to them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:41 PM
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No they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:15 AM
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Generally you're right but even then I would still argue that most of the men are making more of the money. We can argue that on average it's not common for a CEO today to McDonald's worker but even then on average it is a lot more likely for that to happen for a man than it is for a woman. Just look at the absolute high amounts of men who work for the government, Military, and Law enforcement. They make very good pay and those are primarily male dominated so you can't say that most males are da…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:28 PM

That's still not where the argument was headed I'm saying that women are complacent with this reality even though they constantly complain about it. The patriarchy with the men upholding all the power but yet women have enough power on their own in the patriarchy that they use that as a virtue signal to get more special treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:26 PM
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So where are you getting "very rare" from? I guess better question is where are you getting this idea that is very common from? Because I live in reality so it's kind of hard for me to find a study on the whether or not women are asking men out because generally those studies aren't done I'm a guy who constantly told approaches women and hangs around a lot of Social circles and looks up a lot of social dynamics all over the world US, Europe, and Asia specifically and approaching and asking men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:25 PM

If only you would be more specific to which quotes you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:22 PM
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I didn't claim that those studies did because I didn't reference them you did
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:07 PM

In some ways yeah there are going to be some misogynistic people in higher positions of power that are making it harder for the woman at the bottom However again considering that most women don't run for office or at least apply for the entire positions of power most women are content with the way things are because of the power they get from working in the middle area of most higher ranking offices
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:06 PM
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That is NOT what it proves... 🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:23 AM

What's my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:23 AM
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I said solr or primary in other comments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:23 AM
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The whole point was that you said that primary households aren't really a thing. Which again is bull because most of the highest earning people are still men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:22 AM

Null and void because that still would not take precedent over the fact that most men take up law enforcement and military. So helping peoplebin trouble is something they do far more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:21 AM
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Already did you just couldn't follow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:20 AM

Talking about what woman can do I'm not talking about can... This is not a Make-A-Wish foundation I'm talking about what actually happens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:19 AM

And doesn't need to be spelled out for you how unbelievably idiotic your points are? The idea that men are more violent than women is a stupid fucking point because that alone does not invalidate that there are NO violent women. You are a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:18 AM
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It's still pushback. You just trying to find an arbitrary definition that fits your narrative Not all forms of pushback are them directly challenging the government
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:17 AM

Lived experience. Where are you getting that it's "very rare" from? Good thing that would only be very anecdotal What in the Jr high are you referring to? Read it again So enlighten me. What are the real world issues? Reread the post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:17 AM

Dude you sound like a dud
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:15 AM

Most women have jobs themselves. So a man isn't necessarily protecting them from poverty or homelessness, the women are already doing that themselves. Sure they are. The ones that aren't financially stable usually rely on a man that helps them financially. Which is why they aren't on the street. Hence why most homeless people are men because women aren't gonna take in a broke man I didn't realize that husbands provided 24/7/365 security. They don't. Now you just moving the goal posts because I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:14 AM
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Economic data does not confirm that their isn't a primary provider role for men. It confirms that both parties contribute financially
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:58 PM
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I think you're missing some key contacts on what women are usually saying about the patriarchy They are usually saying patriarchal ideas are the reason that men pursue these higher echelon positions and usually abused that power because of patriarchal norms Of course the average guy is not always going into law enforcement but it is a lot more likely on average for men to be in law enforcement, military or in powerful positions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:25 PM
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Whet?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:24 PM
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And Most aren't this nowadays nor were they in times passed since you needed everyone working to survive. Considering how much women complain about the pay Gap this isn't true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:23 PM
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Except men aren't the majority primary to sole providers anymore. And again where is this coming from? Primary providers are very rare I agree but acting like they aren't the majority providers is being very disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:22 PM
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but they literally can't and they don't. Based on what the where is this coming from? Especially since women are now more educated than men. How does this age your point at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:21 PM
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I would still have the same opinion even if I was pretty smug about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:22 PM
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Yes but you'll see a common talking point between a lot of women is that a patriarchy reinforces these systems where a lot of men will go to high rankings of power such as politics, law enforcement, or military And that has not changed. You might have a point that most military drafts aren't they thing anymore but when push comes the show of most men are still in higher ranking positions of power and most men are still in the military/ law enforcement So yes most of those jobs are very volatile
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:22 PM
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But most aren't soo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:40 PM
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Sure sure. Still wouldn't make it less valid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:40 PM

They do.... They have since the dawn of time Draft dodging was in every part of History a very common issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:39 PM
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Even if you explain it like I'm five it still wouldn't make sense because you guys are incapable of making it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:38 PM

Your low IQ is why you think it's contradictory. I wouldn't expect you to keep up since you're so slow
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:37 PM
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But they are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:36 PM
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I didn't complain about Minor benefits they have major benefits on many areas of life that I highlighted in my post
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:36 PM
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Ooh yes. This continues to be more and more common for women to do 50/50 on dates. It's more common than extremely rare. Based off what where are you getting this from? There's very rare amounts of women that want to pay 50/50 on dates. If you go to any public pools on who pays for the day is usually a man regardless of who asked who I'm certainly not going to believe the men in this sub know anything about real world issues. They are too obsessed with sex to know anything about real world issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:36 PM

I don't need an explanation on why you're low IQ. I already know that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:53 PM
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The overwhelming majority of brides contribute to the paying of their weddings. Have a conversation with any 2026/2027 bride and you'll hear how she's paying, he's paying, and maybe their parents, maybe. But it's less and less common for parents to pay for weddings. Oh no you're right about that. That was a mistake on my part for quoting the whole paragraph I was referring to the first two sentences which is that men get asked out by women and they pay for it the men on their dates which again I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:50 PM

And it sounds like you're obtuse yet again because you are There are plenty of movements that have fought for men's rights. Men going against men of higher power is not remotely a new thing. You can go back as far as any history and discover that most big Wars are a bunch of the little man getting shot on and teaming up with other military parties to fight a bigger military threat But you wouldn't know that since you are very obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:47 PM
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Where do you get that the average couple has only 1 income? I didn't say that most household couples are dependent on a man being the only one providing with one income The patriarchy benefits women because societal expectations and women can usually afford to date men who are the primary to sole providers and that applies to average women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:46 PM
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Wow . It should be this impossible to be this obtuse while literally reading the post Women don't take the burden of responsibility because most women don't campaign to be in the highest positions of power You might think that this is all beneficial for men but in reality there are a lot of cons to being in higher ranking positions of power I eat if you're not a good leader then people at the mercy of your bad leadership and you could lead to Rowan and any number of ways Women usually don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:41 PM
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Lady What are you talking about? What in the incoherent mess is this rebuttal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:30 PM
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So why yes, Conservative women do like the patriarchy. More liberal women have been fighting against it for hundreds of years at this point. This is very true and I agree with it I would argue though that the older people get the more they tend to move towards the conservative side just for the simple fact that as they get older they don't want a lot of responsibility on themselves It's too much weight
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:13 PM
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I provided reality what the hell did you provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:12 PM

Great observation batman. Kind of weird that you didn't explain why my own logic didn't make sense though. Just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:11 PM
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