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Why exactly would you be jealous of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:24 PM
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Well you decided to answer and respond. I don't care who's problem it is really. You decided to respond. Also you can have an answer and the answer still could based off a bad read of how life works
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:24 PM
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Again talking from an extremely privileged perspective.... I could argue that men are more likely to be interested because they get no women to pursue them. So because you pursued you made an impression. Most guys don't MAKE an impression it's expected for guys to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:48 PM
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Again.. Nothing fucking changes if that desperate man approaches you anyway. You would have still said no. The reason you approached that guy in the first place or pursued was because you thought he was attractive enough to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:46 PM
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I can say the same damn thing for you if you believe that most men are only saying yes for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:45 PM
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Why do you guys do this thing when men are speaking in general to automatically assume that we are talking about YOU specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:44 PM
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What have they said?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:39 PM
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"Yeah, because men don't lie." Since when did we live in a world where women have EVER took what most of what a man says seriously? Men are the one who are more likely to fall for lies because alot of are gullible and desperate. Women are usually the ones that go off a man's actions so why exactly do you think this a dunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:39 PM
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THATS what I was trying to convey earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:36 PM
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Girls can do the EXACT same thing. So what really is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:36 PM
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I would argue that.. that seems to be a blinder for women then.... There isn't a strong social stigma except from mostly other women and laziness to not pursue other men. Men are literally begging for it but ego won't let women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:35 PM
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Not by men specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:33 PM
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Why is 3 here that just seems left field? Vulnerability to a potential abuser or creepy guy? What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:32 PM
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No. Both get blamed. Not the women. If y'all are unkempt as fuck y'all get judged as an unkempt as couple. There are alot of unkempt as women out there just as well. Guys standards for what they need to their household to function is for lack of a better term less uptight. So they won't prioritize it as much as the women doesn't mean that men EXPECT women to do it for them. The women CHOOSE to do those household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:28 PM
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Who forced you to do the labor at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:26 PM
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They live in a perpetual victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:25 PM
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That's not what a man is expected to do. That's what alot of women choose to do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:25 PM
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I'm sure it would. Alot of other men believe the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:24 PM
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No it's not. Because women use men just like men use women. Alot of women will simply say yes because they don't know how to say yes, they want attention, and they simply want to use a guy for his money. It's happens all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:15 PM
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But a second ago they always want sex and we're simply going for the easiest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:13 PM
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I think they blame both
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:13 PM
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Clients?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:03 PM
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"It fascinates me, when men like to believe in some image of other men without any experience. Ironically they also can see some contradictions, and in another debate where the question would be phrased differently, there will be many who would say that men pump and dump and you'd agree. But when women say this - it's not allowed apparently." That's funny. Because half of the women commenting on men making the first moves AUTOMATICALLY assume that girls shouldn't based soley on there assumption …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:01 PM
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"But this is a problem too. He might be so desperate that he'll say yes to anything. I want to be liked for who I am, I'm not just "anything". So why the hell would that change regardless of who's approaching? Your solution leads to more loneliness. Lots of people are lonely. Doesn't mean people have to stay lonely because they were desperate at one point. "". The guys who imply that only want sex are usually guys who will also say it. The problem is men who think "oh, a woman approaching me! I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:00 PM
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But how?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:57 PM
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You had me until that last example. People must certainly will judge you for keeping your kids unkempt
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:25 PM
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Ok so a woman saying yes to men is only an opportunity to take his money and use his for free food/board
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:24 PM
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If it simply after who was easiest.... Then the overwhelming majority of women wouldn't get attention for sex and they would simply just talk to only fat women or prostitutes. That's not actually what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:23 PM
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I don't think women are EXPECTED to do the house work and chores. The women choose to because men in general are generally lazy around household chores. That's why when girls first moves into guys house they usually notice that guys will have almost nothing in their house but a TV stand, a couch, a coffee table, and a pool table. That's its Guys don't carry much because they usually don't require much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:22 PM
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Women can still approach men. Also I think that stigma is vastly overblown. Most men are not attractive and don't have many women chasing them. So a woman approaching wouldn't automatically be presented as a hoe for approaching because men get next to No attention anyway. Also yes you do have a chance to encounter men who only want sex. But the solution to that is Crazy stupid simple. Stop texting the guy if he's implying he only wants to meet up for sex. Also hard to be jealous about because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:18 PM
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Id argue that 9 times out of 10 if a guy wants to sleep with you than he actually likes you. That doesn't imply that he wants to be a relationship with you but he does indeed to a certain degree find you attractive. Guys in general standards for dating or sex have NEVER been high. Simply being non morally corrupt, not being obese, and appearing semi loyal is enough to for guys to fall head over heels. Girls do this thing where they AUTOMATICALLY assume that if a guy only wants them for sex that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:15 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:05 PM
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If she's simply talking about DIRECTLY from female partners than she's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:04 PM
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How is she wrong on all accounts? Virgin shaming does happen but it's not slut shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:04 PM
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All of this is the complete backwards of what I usually here. Most people usually ask abandon childs wheres your mom instead of dad. And isn't it a running joke that dad's always get mischaracterized as babysitting when they are taking care of that child? That might sound like a compliment when it actuality it's backhanded
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:02 PM
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But why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:00 PM
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And now you're just making up stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:37 AM
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But that's not what most men are. You're talking about exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:36 AM

Wow what an absolute birdbrain post. Guys do NOT only feel bad about themselves when it comes to sex. You need to actually meet people in real life cause it's clear you're hung out in too many incel spaces and think it's reality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:18 PM
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Ok? I don't see why because of those bad examples of how a nice person is supposed to act that guys are all under the same mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:20 PM
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Well that's the problem. The women that are using the labels that an Incel is automatically a nice guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:11 PM
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Obviously I'm not advocating for those crazed Incels. Those guys can scram
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:06 PM
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Honestly I'm just quite tired of Reddit gaslighting people into thinking actually nice guys are the bad guys because they lack assertiveness. When in reality when you know women we'll enough they'll gaslight into thinking nice guys are the actual villains and the women are actual victims when they treat nice guys like trash. It's like they don't wanna look bad for treating them awful so they have to spin it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:33 PM
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Going where you are appreciated does not make you a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:49 PM
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The guys on average care. The women on average doesn't. Because in their mind. The dating world for them is not better. Until you ask them start taking initiative that is...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:26 PM
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I fucking hate this stupid ass shit
/r/seduction16/06/26 01:25 PM
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When did we expect it from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:23 PM
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He will not shut up. He's making a valid point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:22 PM
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They wouldn't have sex then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:22 PM
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ONG So many facts. Immigrants that are usually given the benefit of the doubt is ALWAYS the women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:22 PM
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You are more likely to feel MORE lonely from sexlessness. It still relates
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:21 PM
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It's not I'm just saying generally most bisexual and lesbian women don't have more game
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:52 PM
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What's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:08 PM
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No... I thought we was talking about two different things. I thought you was referring to guys who are creepy, stalker heavy, or sexually harass women As far as misogynistic most of the guys I know usually laugh in your face and do the whole ... "Which bitch broke your heart" routine. Kinda how like girls do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:36 PM
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I don't think you meet enough men then. Most of the men I know get very violent when they find out a guy they know does that.. If it is a guy thats doing it they probably don't know if he's doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:32 PM
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That's assuming that the acts itself are warranted of an arrest
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:30 PM
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You are tripping big time bro. A dude who is usually confronted by other men for sexually harassment or any of the other pushy actions is usually beat on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:34 PM
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No. Not true at all. I used to be on 4chan. And 4chan used to pose daily prisoners with cell phones being predators men that includes, men that are arrested for stalking, harassment, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:33 PM
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And I have seen men in that situation probably far more. Women have super high standards so very likely to leave before then. Most men won't
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:31 PM
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I wouldn't say a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:31 PM

I'll wait till they improve on them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:06 PM
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No. Just you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:05 AM
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Not really. It's harder for women to fall in love and easier for them to fall out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:47 AM
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Insanely wrong but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:47 AM
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Being chill is not enough for most men to succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:27 AM
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Ehhh negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:26 AM
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Wym
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:23 AM
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I mean not wrong but women seem to spend their every waking minute doing it people just find men more annoying because they don't care about men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:16 AM
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Don't see how
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:04 AM
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That is laughably false
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:03 AM
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Been there done that it just makes you feel even shittier about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:03 AM
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They already are insanely selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:56 AM
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Can't believe this is even controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:56 AM
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THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:56 AM
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Most women are insanely picky and fickle. This simply isn't True
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:55 AM
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Most?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:55 AM
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Id argue that alot of men do check each other. Half of the fear of men being predators is that they know they will get targeted by other men for doing predatory things. ESPECIALLY if they end up in jail
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:54 AM
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I mean let's be honest. Alot of women are BLATANTLY disgusted by the overwhelming majority of the male population. And more likely to find a woman attractive than a male. So it's not unreasonable for men to think this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:53 AM
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It depends on what they believe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:52 AM
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Don't agree. Most women are already insanely picky so they are settling for most alot of douche bags unless they douchebag is really hot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:52 AM
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It depends on which ones you highlight
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:51 AM
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Be glad you aren't a guy. A guy will ignore a woman being a serial killer if he's in love
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:51 AM
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Ehhh this doesn't really hold weight with me Guys are just as likely to be irrational actually they're more likely to be irrational when they are in love so this is not really something that really does anything to me when I hear it Because women are very likely to fall out of love with men because they usually have way bigger standards and usually only want seemingly perfect men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:50 AM
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If you respond to this comment I'll tell you the real answer
/r/seduction13/06/26 12:49 AM
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I haven't heard it being the norm that guys have it easy. Yes absolutely guys have it the worst but I don't hear most people saying guys have it easier
/r/seduction12/06/26 02:48 AM
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Some are... Peoples sexuality is on a spectrum .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:18 AM
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Yep. All of those
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:01 AM
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You don't speak for all heterosexual women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:42 AM
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I really don't know if this is an insult or sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:38 AM
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You just told on yourself. If conversation is easier it's much easier for people to transition to dating then if you couldn't conversate with men as easily
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:36 AM
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Yes but like I said the woman who have gotten over their fear of making the first moves usually have very great success rates.. That is not even remotely close to guys who have gotten over their fear
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:36 AM
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So overall your point is that lesbian women get rejected so therefore it's just as hard as men? Are you aware of how fickle your argument sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:35 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:34 AM
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Dude all you really need to know if you're hella confused is that woman will always want to have their cake while simultaneously eating it They don't want the gender Norms that they have to conform to but the masculine gender Norms they want someone else to do for them so they will always result back to being "I'm just a girl"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:33 AM
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And for men they don't even really meet up with women at their houses or have sleepovers... The woman doesn't want to even give him a date so I think this kind of speaks for itself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:32 AM
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Dude what the fuck are you talking about? You just said a whole bunch of nonsense... They pursue because of the fact that it's not easy... And they have higher sex drives
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:31 AM
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Yeah and when has the last time a guy has easily met somebody and spent 3 days with them that's not even really a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:30 AM
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I think you completely missed the point of the post. My point is that the bar for heterosexual and lesbian woman to clear for dating is not equal. For heterosexual men the bar is a lot higher
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:29 AM
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And I didn't have to challenge it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:27 AM
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Heavy amounts of lying here He didn't say 80 percent of men are approaching women. Men will eventually get attention if they live long enough but they will absolutely be ignored in most circumstances when it comes to cold and warm approaching women. Nice straw man The Bar is high for men.... You just live in your own world
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:27 AM
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It's easier in a sense that if lesbian women were more welding to shoot their shot then they could easily find a relationships It's not easy in a sense that lesbian people are more rare than heterosexual people But if you told me that a lesbian woman was going to go to a mall and shoot her shot with a bunch of woman and then a normal heterosexual guy is going to shoot his shot with a bunch of women I will bet $100 on the fact that the woman will probably get a date before the guy will
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:25 AM
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Results as in getting laid or even getting dates or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:24 AM
4

Who? And acknowledging what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:23 AM
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He doesn't need your help
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:35 PM
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It's a cold world out there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:33 PM
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Why would you do that? Humiliation ritual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:32 PM
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I can't wait for those sex dolls because I'm 29 now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:31 PM
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Why does everyone in the seduction community have to answer questions in the most roundabout way fucking possible? It sounds like you guys are part a damn Ponzi scheme how much you avoid direct questions. Any kind of sex is still a win in my opinion. But if 1 and 15-20 is your results I guess that's not bad.
/r/seduction10/06/26 04:34 PM
5

Ok quick question. How often do you get laid from cold approach?
/r/seduction10/06/26 04:23 PM
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I thought this was obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:06 PM
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No. I just know you trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:38 PM
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No change in your trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:34 PM
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Yeah they'll look at you like a creep or rapist first.... Yeah Excellent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:34 PM
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Yes you would... Because you have less value as a guy and you more threatening by default. And women have far more options. You absolutely would have to change it up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:33 PM
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You'd have to do it differently
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:28 PM
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You have to approach as a man tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:28 PM
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You haven't picked up women as men is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:27 PM
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You'd be dating women but you have women memories as a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:25 PM
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It's because you haven't approached enough men... And if you aren't ok with taking initiative now then you won't be as a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:24 PM
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You would still struggle to find dates and relationships just as bad if not worse than us.... Because you still have to make all the first moves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:23 PM
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I know what you mean because less lesbians exist than straight women but I'm saying it wouldn't go up much unless you are very attractive man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:25 PM
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I'm thinking more in a scenario of let's take all the women from this world insert them into an alternate universe where women already exist but in this universe they are men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:58 PM
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That's hella weird most of the guys I know are in favor of not cold Approaching. They actually despise it Maybe it's a purple pill thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:43 PM

You cared enough to comment. And that's all that matters 👀👀 I know you aren't saying it's the same but you're comparing the two as if they are equivalent to the same intimidation as an average straight male Or at least remotely close enough that it would make a difference that's why I said it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:15 PM
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I didn't say mascs don't approach. Learn to read man I said they don't feel like approaching all the time... There's a clear difference between the two of we are expecting mascs to approach in this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:11 PM

As a black man I get so entirely sick of the insane victim complex black women use.... It's nowhere remotely close to the level of intimidation that black man receive on a male to female basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:07 PM
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If you were a guy and you wasn't very physically attractive you would have to play the numbers game unfortunately because the overwhelming majority of women would find you on attractive that's just how it is You have to nut up in this scenario figuratively speaking unless you don't mind being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:04 PM
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I'd argue that most women are weird about sex and they have these really weird requirements on what constitutes as good sex and what constitutes a man as being sexy I've already knew this before purple pill existed. My thing is I can't stand it when women do the thing to where they try to pretend that women are just as horny as men and that's not even remotely true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:02 PM
1

Like a third or fourth? You understand that even in the under developed nations the men are tortured and killed more often right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:02 PM
1

To the first question no. To the second question... Let's pretend that an alternate universe an entirely new batch of women exist and they act just like women of today but the women of this universe have turned into men I'd say you keep relatively the same appearance as long as it can translate over without looking weird The last question is yes... But it's only enough to where you can't back out and say.... I'll wait it out till everything goes back to normal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:00 PM
1

Because I have worked and been around a lot of lesbian spaces for a long ass time and most of them are not masculins so again I don't know what the fuck you talking about but it ain't reality The masculine ones I did meet didn't always feel like approaching. I don't understand why that's a foreign freaking concert to you but you need to grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:57 PM
2

I remember you. I think you mad cap but you're entitled to your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:50 PM
7

Yeah right 😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:50 PM
1

But the problem is most lesbian are not mascsss and even then they don't always feel like approaching. So nah don't see it unless it was even. It's not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:50 PM
0

That's never gonna happen. If lesbians aren't now.... Thennnnn
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:49 PM
2

So women are not nasty and cruel?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:20 PM
1

You say this like most women aren't delusional lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:19 PM
1

you are in for a rude awakening... Because a lot of your dating prospects would drop
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:18 PM
2

They would know and that's exactly why they wouldn't make any moves that's why it's a comic joke that lesbians don't make moves they just stare at each other all day and just say you're so pretty women don't have game
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:18 PM
5

And women do what exactly? Lead the blind while being simultaneously blind?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:17 PM
1

Overall I don't think they would have an advantage the only advantage they would have is that they want to make friends but that's not the intent of the post I'm saying if they actually want to date those women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:14 PM

Woman just love to Yap don't they? I swear every single complaint women have about men on purple pill is just self projection coming from the women's side. If they fall in love with the looks and the fantasy of a woman then how the hell are they going to get detached? That doesn't even make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:15 PM

Absolutely not I disagree with your disagreement. The idea that life is too short is still bogus. Most guys get way too attached and still get nothing so what time is really being wasted here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:14 PM

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:14 PM

We've all seen a girl fall for a guy she's usually still less attached
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:13 PM
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Which is why I wasn't arguing that. And honestly that goes to show you why dating is so unbelievably hard for men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:10 PM
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You don't think the majority of women are more privileged what world are you living on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:05 PM
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They struggle to get it.... That's what I was referring to. Also legitimately most women should just become lesbians because they're just pissing me off with all the bull they say about men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:05 PM
-1

You right. She's hella gay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:03 PM
1

Your entire post is Bulljive and honestly it's extremely freaking rich coming from a woman because that is the exact way that you guys are and this post comes across as heavy projection It's the woman that went all the upsides of being a man and none of the downsides Don't believe me? Okay why don't most women approach men, why don't most men pay for dates, why don't most men initiate sex as often, why don't most women go out of their way to protect their husbands in a fight or flight scenario, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:03 PM
-1

Sex is easier and better for men Just so easy to lie isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:01 PM
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This is a load of bullshit spread by men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:57 AM
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They are gonna give more... because they are receivers. They are gonna be the ones usually penetrating... You are doing just a really heavy lawyer piece of women on being selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:11 PM
-3

That's a big if...I'm saying with most of their partners in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:50 PM
2

It's SOOOO ANNOYING
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:40 PM
-3

Yeah they don't. And won't for a variety of reasons that work against them so yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:21 PM
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I'm talking about pedestalizing them specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:16 PM
1

Other reason why men simply can't just treat women like humans because women are celebrities.... Also 4b isn't growing nearly enough to stop women from dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:15 PM
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I'm aware people do things when they are horny. I've done it. So I know but again in most casual sex situations especially spontaneous... Giving box is a lot less convenient in those circumstances No there is no in other words. Read EXACTLY what I said. I said they are uncomfortable but they are gonna be THAT uncomfortable compared to the guy giving head. Because in your scenario the guy would be uncomfortable to pleasure the woman. So it would be a give and take on both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:32 PM
-1

The overwhelming majority can't. Which is the issue. Most men put women on pedestals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:30 PM
-1

No... Because unlike popular beliefs women are very selfish lovers as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:27 PM
2

They are being valued as people. They just are striking that balance that most people prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:23 PM
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Maybe wording was a little off. Completely than like not human I was referring to pedestalizing them. Not mistreatment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:21 PM
1

Well you certainly were not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:19 PM
1

YOU had no issues I's the key word. Most people even women will tell you that car sex fucking sucks. And also most Americans don't even own sedan. It's only like 30 percent of car ownership. Sedans are designed to be more roomy but that's the obvious reason I didn't reference those because most have been in cars in mine No. It's not comfortable at all. But alot of women are more likely to do it at the heat of the moment then try to fit their legs over a guys head in a cramped as car where it's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:19 PM
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Lol but on the real alot of guys treat more women with respect than alot of women like to promote but I won't get into that fully
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:12 PM
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What's wrong with any of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:11 PM
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I know that but they have the luxury of wanting to be treated like equals why simultaneously being more valued .. I'm saying the advice itself is dumb because most guys could never strike that right balance because women live a different life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:09 PM
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No to none of those... But I'm talking about dating specifically tho. We won't live in a world where guys can treat women like they are on the same level because we Never have been
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:07 PM
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Reality women already do this men to a high degree. But no I'm not in favor of mistreating women nor pedestalizing them either My post is not saying that men SHOULDN'T treat women with respect or like equals... I'm saying the advice itself is hella cringey and overblown because most guys will NEVER Strike that right balance that women want. Especially considering the life's they live. Especially just because you told them to treat them human
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:06 PM
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No, we are all Homo sapiens. No we're not A good first step might be to overcome the enormous solipsism required to imagine that anyone who doesn't "live the life he does" isn't human. They aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:04 PM
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No. If they are treating with disrespect certainly not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:02 PM
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In a way we can make strides to make ourselves more approachable. But the reality is women live on two entirely two different realities that we aren't gonna be able to fully "treat them " how they want because it's like a beggars versus choosers thing. We are always gonna be the beggars
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:02 PM
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Those guys are usually right tho. The side he doesn't wanna show around his women than he usually shouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:00 PM
2

Wym?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:59 PM
-1

You think blowjobs somehow aren’t also more common in the bedroom outside of public sex..? No And that just sounds like an excuse tbh, you can lay a woman down in the back of a car or on a table for example and eat her out, if you don’t have access to a bed. And that tells me you haven't had a lot of car sex. It can be EXTREMELY uncomfortable to try to lay a woman down in your back seat and eat box. Trust me. I've done it multiple times. Most people don't own navigatkrs or range rovers so the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:58 PM

You are married of course of you haven't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:36 PM
-1

And they still find partners. Don't try to make it seem like women not going out and not using apps is them preferring to stay single and they ACTUALLY Stay single because they still don't. Women still are getting relationships regardless. It is recruit difficulty after all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:35 PM
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Not true at all. Their are PLENTY of women's that are very vocal about not giving head...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:32 PM
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That's has NOTHING to do with women wanting to give more pleasure to their men and almost EVERYTHING to do with convenience Giving Blowjobs is easier to do at the drop of a hat especially in public settings in comparison to eating box.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:31 PM
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Lilith of Babylon posting more brain rot as always
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:46 PM
0

That's exactly what I said. You might not value the compliments but you guys are getting MORE than enough compliments. I feel it's more than enough because compared to men we never get compliments and y'all live the life of mini celebrities
/r/seduction22/05/26 11:51 AM
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Lady we do not need to do a poll on every woman to know that the overwhelming majority of women are getting compliments It's insanely obvious just look at any woman who gets on social media who's getting it insane amount of matches or messages If you haven't noticed let me fill you in women are insanely valued and guys are insanely not. So the majority of guys are desperate and we'll go after any women because they simply don't have options So yes the overall majority of women do get compliments…
/r/seduction22/05/26 03:40 AM
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The OVERWHELMING majority does
/r/seduction22/05/26 03:15 AM
-1

You still should buy her a drink
/r/seduction21/05/26 01:24 AM
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I don't compliment women they get enough compliments already
/r/seduction21/05/26 01:23 AM
1

Obviously for women it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:01 PM
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But unfortunately that's not how life works .. guys that are not celebrities or gigachads have to work for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:17 AM
0

Sounds are deceiving. And who are you to tell me to approach as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:34 AM

You don't give him rimjobs so it doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:51 AM
1

Alot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:16 AM
-1

You picking my brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:14 AM
1

Most of this is hypothetical so what is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:05 AM
1

Men can wanna date women and still find it too much work depending on how much results he gets
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:04 AM
0

That is total bullshit but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:41 AM
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I'm aware of this... I don't get on dating apps But if only half of women under the age of 30 have not even gotten on dating apps then that just makes it a hundred times worse for guys because that means women are basically many celebrities that guys have to compete with to get It's like getting in line
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:02 AM
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Do you honestly think that guys say women are too much work because they don't want to go on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:00 AM
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Are they everJustified?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:53 AM
1

Yeah for you I think we are well aware that if you were a guy it will be totally different
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:51 AM
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I think the problem is most guys don't feel wanted by the old woman majority of women and on top of that they have to do the overwhelming majority of the work and the initial phase of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:34 AM
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Yeah said they don't like women and only want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:19 AM
-1

Ok so what works is she putting in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:10 AM
-1

I obviously know that because there are double standards that exist for men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:50 PM
-1

What effort is the woman putting in?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:48 PM
-8

I'd argue women don't have to work as hard usually
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:42 PM
-2

Isn't getting sex alot of work regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:32 PM
4

That's wild
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:21 PM
-1

FACTS
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:21 PM
0

We had this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
-3

Why is that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
0

Why
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
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Do you not think that men actually try?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:20 PM
2

Why do you assume they didn't actually like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:18 PM
-2

Why do you assume that the men don't wanna date?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:17 PM
0

Well it depends on how old you are... I'm 29. A girl can easily get around so id say for a girl around my age.... 10-20 bodies is on the higher end for me but somewhat still reasonable Over 20 is when I start thinking they had their ", fun " phase and imma backup option
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:22 PM
2

I'd still disagree with you that most red pill in Mansfield men are extremists that are a part of cult... That in a nutshell is kind of extreme But yes most men don't subscribe to redpill rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:16 PM
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Well let them be alone then. Also it depends on what they mean by sleep around. I'd say for me a girl that has slept around a decent bit is fine... Slept around A LOT id different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:14 PM
1

Well I kinda agree. Most men aren't redpill. Also I don't think all of redpill and manosphere is extreme. A loud decent number are tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:13 PM
0

Again... You are using the worst examples of men that are borderline cartoon characters. Even most redpill of red pill men have cooled off and tell you that they don't require these arbitrary ass dating rules. Most men will date you if you cute and loyal. You can broke, lazy, and a headcase and they'd still date you .. This is just an example of you just not going outside enough and taking some extreme guys standards to heart. Hell even those extreme red pill guys aren't common
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:10 PM
2

Act in what way tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:58 PM
3

I'm so sick of you guys using the worst examples to back up your points...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:45 PM
0

Some use it as manipulation. Some don't. A girl always wants a guy to wait because it she knows it gives her more power the longer she makes you wait. And gives up power the faster she gives it up. Both of course the hotter you are the less likely she'll follow this rule
/r/seduction13/05/26 11:12 PM
1

No it's not dude... Jesus this is the reasons guys struggle is because of misleading information
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:18 PM
1

That sounds like you'll just make a bunch of aquaintances and friends
/r/seduction09/05/26 10:32 PM
1

It sounded like you trying address on average... But I don't have a high ego or fear of rejection and still can't get em... It's another factor here
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:31 PM
2

Who has the right conclusion?
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:21 PM
1

That' first sentence is not even close to being true. Plenty of studies and evidence counter acts that. Women almost never in a general consensus have as libido or as horny as men on average Id argue that those things to learn are harder to learn but entitled to your opinion
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:00 PM
1

My problem is most women say this because all you hear is how bad their options are
/r/seduction09/05/26 02:14 PM
1

I've done it for 10 plus years I'm not going to get it
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:04 AM
1

You clearly have game. Congratulations
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:27 AM
1

Read situations like what? I'm curious
/r/seduction08/05/26 10:36 PM
0

Dude you need to stop getting me confused with looks maxxed guys. I never said looks is the only factor at play. I'm saying most guys don't have success unless they have a lot of games or approaching girls that are clearly into them
/r/seduction08/05/26 10:10 PM
1

If what you were saying was true then all guys would need to do to get a girlfriend it's cold approach but that's not exactly happening is it?
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:47 PM
0

No it's never that simple it's really dumb to assume this You need to have an above average level of skill usually to get a girl's number unless you are specifically picking the girls that are already into you
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:43 PM
1

And you're blocked. Also you completely lost that bet
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:38 PM
1

Dude .... You're blocked
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:37 PM
1

I don't believe it is. It just makes you more adept at taking rejection for the most part and being a masochist
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:36 PM
1

Not cold approach
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:35 PM
0

Because cold approach has very little success rates for men
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:35 PM
1

I think I've met more than enough women to know what they are thinking
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:34 PM
1

The issue with your premise is that you assume the other 50% are meeting through cold approach they are not And no you aren't missing an opportunity because that woman is very unlikely to pick you anyway I think we can suggest based off the many guys that hold approach and get no success
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:33 PM
1

It'a not as easy as you're making it but props if it's easy for you
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:31 PM
0

You don't have to be a male model but you have to have really high cold approach skills which most men don't have
/r/seduction08/05/26 08:11 PM
1

Yeah but most men cant and don't operatevt that way. It's basically a pain Olympics only meant for masochists
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:43 PM
1

Who do what? Cold approach? Most aren't good at it
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:40 PM
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If most guys had the right vibe then we wouldn't be having a conversation about it. Most guys would get gfs no problem
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:40 PM
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Id heavily argue that going for girls that look less attractive would still en futile because most girls aren't gonna be that receptive unless you are very above average with cold approaching Also I'm not saying people shouldn't improve the issue is cold approaching and cold calling is different Cold approach is a lot more personal when you get rejected
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:24 PM
1

How?
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:22 PM
1

Yeah but the overwhelming majority of men won't ever get better enough to matter. They'll approach sure but their mental will feel like shit because all what happens is they feel like shit all the time straining themselves approaching women all day and most of the women don't like em
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:17 PM
1

I'm trying but again it's taking me a while
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:13 PM
0

That's why I say guys who cold approach well should cold approach
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:49 PM
0

That's my thing the overwhelming majority of men aren't good at it so whats the point of approaching?
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:47 PM
1

The overwhelming majority wont
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:47 PM
0

Most guys aint Hank Moody bro stop it
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:46 PM
0

Ist kinda dumb hope at this point because being an average man is no hope
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:43 PM
1

Yeah I'm more a fan of warm. Only problem is I never get eye contact from women
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:34 PM
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Yeah but their are a lot of guys that don't go out as much and on top of that the girls can be more catty and more stuck up at night especially if they are in groups
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:33 PM
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Yeah it FUCKING pisses me off because they make it sound like it's a Hallmark movie. Like no dude. That only works IF you are really good at Cold Approach or INSANELY lucky
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:28 PM
0

Most guys
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:27 PM
1

Yeah but most people will go off that and makes sense. If you're more likely to get mauled by a bear while visiting a certain area then people aren't gonna show up to that area
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:26 PM
8

Hundreds is insane
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:25 PM
-1

Most guys DON'T Have the right vibe is my point. You're talking from a place of experience. Most average guys dont make a big enough impression on women when it comes to "vibes" to get women to want to date them.
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:18 PM
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Yeah so unless most guys are masochists they aren't gonna be into it
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:16 PM
2

Yes I know that. But it's a better alternative than cold approaching as an average man I don't think they do. This dating coach I read swears by this too but I also think he's full of shit. He just doesn't understand it because he can get men dates if he knows how to run the interaction
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:14 PM
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1.Most average to below average men. Which in a nutshell is most men 2.Warm approach or just hope I get lucky Lots of things. Lack of money, drive, and learning certain skill sets Because I know women. And I've approached enough to know. That's the issue. Alot of guys are simply promoting that the approach itself is usually enough to make a difference and it isn't. 5.wtf are you talking about?
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:12 PM
1

It was text to speech dude calm down
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:06 PM
2

The reality is most guys would rather approach less because it is a massive waste of time considering how many losses you will have. I get kind of why Cold approach exist though because the reality is most men are not going to be getting signals from women if not ever
/r/seduction08/05/26 06:06 PM
6

Of course you say that
/r/seduction08/05/26 03:48 PM
6

Because girls are complicated and you have to basically pass a midterm to date them
/r/seduction08/05/26 03:48 PM
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I think you're overestimating it. Alot of guys ARENT single by choice. Alot of guys aren't attractive to women. So if these men are so called attractive then you have to hear them say so because they might believe they are attractive when you do. Also women are insanely complicated
/r/seduction08/05/26 03:46 PM

You better look really fucking good if you this cocky
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:33 PM

No because it's too tiring to repeat what I said.. and I actually do wanna have a conversation that gets somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:08 PM

This is honestly a lot to respond to do you have some form of talk chat or Discord? I sent a hell of long rude message because I was just too tired to read through it but honestly I shouldn't have done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:37 PM

No they fuck they are not you a coping actually hard right now. You don't really know. You would last a month as a man because you'd probably wanna just Sister sage yourself. It's awful. And yes there are a lot of shit men but so is their women. You guys got so much privilege that you're oblivious to that you don't see how hard it is on one side. That fact that you have the balls to say otherwise is telling how privileged y'all got it Guys getting there dick wet is not all of guys problems and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:35 PM

Yeah you have it easy.... If you had to be a guy for 6 months you'd understand all the bad things guys have to deal with. Getting pussy and relationships is easy for women. Regardless of if they are dating men or women. Just not as easy as men. But little do you actually know 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:54 PM
1

That's really fucked. They didn't know how good they had it so therefore they are trying to hold on to what they previously had I'm going to be completely honest with you and I know it how this is going to sound but I was at one point kinda that guy that hit up my old ex a bunch of times too when I fucked up after she blocked me so yeah Im not gonna act like I'm high and mighty. I loved that chick.... She had a short leash 🤣😭😭🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:36 PM
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Sheeesh... Where are these men spawning from? I always assumed the men that have this sort of manipulative take no prisons selfish types were usually easy to spot but I guess not. Taking your credit is a whole level of violation that's almost worth getting thrown under the jail. My credit got completed fucked from my parents using my card so I can't imagine your spouse doing it without your knowledge. Bro is legit fucked. Get em banned 🚫. Ion be understanding people like that. Shit is so wild. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:32 PM
1

That is what is usually means. Attracted people are more likely to be in a relationship so you're statements are actually the casual ones
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:09 PM
1

But yours is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:46 PM
3

It is because the people who have to wait forever are usually not desired and spend very long periods lonely. And then when they do find partners is because they are usually settled for...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:34 PM
-1

Dude get the fuck outta here with your bullshit. If the bar was on the floor then red pill wouldn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:30 PM
1

You're not below average enough for women to hit on you and/or you probably have an x factor that compensates
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:57 PM
1

So? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:48 PM
1

You don't have to be hot for women to hit on you but you might be a butt average
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:34 PM
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Alot of men don't tho. You could argue that a lot do form relationships eventually but you don't really know how long they had to reasonably wait to get that relationship and nine times out of 10 is usually women get old so they settle more
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:34 PM
1

2
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:20 PM
2

Because you're conclusions are backwards as hell. How many men have you dated?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:48 PM
-1

No because they'd probably say they met all the right women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:48 PM
0

Make a tinder account as an average straight man and you would 😭😂😭😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:47 PM
-3

No. You're conclusions is just hella bad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:42 PM
-5

Alot of women will disagree with you for this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:40 PM
2

Well most men are unnattractive to women by default. So most men are gonna chase women who don't like them. It's the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:39 PM
3

You haven't dated enough women 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:38 PM
-3

Wrong as hell. She just made a assumption and very problematic gender generalization on men that's based on little experience so no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:37 PM
2

That applies for both preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:42 PM
-3

Im aware thanks for your input
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:41 PM
2

Wym
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:36 PM
0

I know that. But they still go to a period of trying to date women where they have to find out the differences between dating both
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:22 PM
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Not really because their are alot of lesbians that came out late
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:16 PM
3

I don't agree. Not giving a fuck does not usually alone get you women
/r/seduction06/05/26 11:30 AM
1

Sorry about that. Was walking my dog. That's wild though. So I'm your experience the older men are just as bad as young guys? Or have you noticed they have more problems? I assumed every older guys was girls dream since they have experience and big beards
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:16 AM
1

Well games is a little bit of something that's gonna stick. Alot of guys haven't fully learned how to communicate what they really want.... But hey if they play games you have my permission to put em away and I'll hide their remains. I've watched Breaking Bad so I know the perfect solution
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:59 PM
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I think realistically? Most wouldn't care if you look good and you're attracted to them. Most guys don't care that much if the girl looks good. The problem is most women don't like dating younger men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:35 PM
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I'm proud of you. You rare. Most older women don't like younger dudes. It's very rare nowadays. I don't personally go after older women usually because of that because they always giving me the run around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:04 PM

Real shit.... Most men go through life aimless not feeling normal because they can't form relationships and get those hookups and experiences they want consistently. So it's a lot of nights where it's just the same old tune. Dancing with yourself gets hella old pretty fast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:38 PM
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I have no clue mate, Such a stupid fucking update
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:16 PM
2

Why did they take the ability to just quote with the highlight and copy feature?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:18 PM
1

So put the greater sign?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:18 PM
1

I will not....I'm locking you in my basement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:38 AM
1

I'm definitely uggo that's why I don't have success with women honestly. It's a humiliation ritual
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:19 AM
2

Don't laugh at me wamen 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:17 AM
3

Why isn't it working for me!!!!!??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:48 PM
3

It won't let you on mobile anymore. That's fucking stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:27 PM
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You don't need to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:13 PM
2

When the blue hell did they EVER care....? 🫩🫩🫩🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:13 PM
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If argue don't have a good enough argument either other than they provide 😺. And society dictates that they are the more important sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:11 PM
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No but we are gonna be shedding tears or be all that caring when they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:10 PM
6

Too be fair this is very true. I would delta if I could
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:09 PM
0

How do you do that? It' doesn't let me do it on my phone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:08 PM
2

No you said like yours. I'm asking what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:36 PM
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It's not their fault no. But that's kinda my thing. That's exactly why I don't feel bad for their dating woes. Because it's always...Men and women different.. Which is a roundabout way of saying.... They are women... You have to impress them... Now I see why guys always upload that Dancing Jester meme
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:36 PM
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I find it weird that reddit doesn't let you quote people anymore. Very weird Also I find it also weird of this shaming language you chose to use. Because let me assure you and everyone else who doesn't approve of what of say to start their shaming language brigade ... Men NEVER needed empathy to get women. Some of the biggest womanizers I know are sociopaths. And they can still get women to want for relationships just as easily
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:34 PM
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Dating woes like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:15 PM
3

I can agree to this to a high degree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:14 PM
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They not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:37 PM
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No they dont
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:36 PM
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Yeah insanely rare enough that it seems a waste of time to mention it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:21 PM
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Yep you women being entitled and all makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:20 AM
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No. It was already a thing regardless. It's cheap and gets the person moving and no fancy expensive dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:01 AM
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Exactly. And getting to know someone. You can still do that on a park walk
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:08 AM
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Yeah but you're not the one planning the date. So obviously it's easy to say. Also a date is getting to know someone first. Sexy is stuff that's reserved for the rich bad boys in girl books
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:49 AM
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I think it's a perfect plan
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:48 AM
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Also no they don't really Approach men they like
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:48 AM
-1

How often do you get women to agree to a meet up instead of a date because I like this framing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:17 AM
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No you don't. You're justification for laziness is maddening
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:50 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:46 AM
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I don't give a fuck about your end. You are just one guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:53 PM
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Nah. I'd Rather play PGTFOMF my Young thug
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:53 PM
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They are planning to not get mauled. That doesn't directly help them get dates. I'm saying directly as far as finding a partner is WAYYYY harder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:51 PM
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29 how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:05 PM
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I know that. That doesn't mean the amount of work we have to do isn't unfair to an absurd degree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:04 PM
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You sound hung up on the idea that most women don’t like most men. Why? Cuz it makes it harder for a man to find partners Because you don’t need most women to be into most men. You just need one woman to be into you You're fortune cookie advice is just so unbelievably stale Like no dip? Obviously you need one person to like you but that's not how life works is it? One person could like you and you could probably not like them or vice versa or probably that same person that you like also like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:42 PM
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The problem with your statement is that you're making it out to be like there is plenty of options for me to not choose those same women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:38 PM
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It's still valuable because casual sex with a passablr guy is a lot better then no sex and no relationships with anybody passable. Also women have more opportunities for relationships than just casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:37 PM
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What you're missing is that different men and women are into different men and women. Yeah attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:36 PM
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Mind controlling?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:35 PM
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This doesnt have to be work. You can look at it as fun. I could but then I will remember is how much work I'm doing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:44 PM
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OP uses his personal experience as an introverted, indecisive man and contends that "Dating for straight men is entirely TOO MUCH WORK". Introverted and indecisive... You must live next to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:42 PM
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I'm thoroughly flabbergasted.. you sick fiend
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:42 PM
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Don't you okie dokie me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:41 PM
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No not really
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:51 AM
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Sex options not dating options Yes they are. Sex options is better than no options. And most women aren't gonna date men they aren't willing to have sex with. And most men are willing to date most women. They also want fast sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:20 AM
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Most women are fat and poor just like most men so attractive men are picky with their dating options like attractive women are with their sex and dating options. No. Women have far more options in spite of being fat and poor. And attractive males are extremely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:10 AM
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So if dating is already too much work... Women couldn't handle the dating phase like we could so ...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:10 AM

No. You're blocked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:09 AM
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Yes, as much as men. And as expected as men. No this is wrong. Not even close. When was the last time you ever heard of women approaching men, asking them out on dates, paying for the first date, asking for a guys number, planning a date? You've probably heard it but it's not as common as men do it. It's actually much rarer Do you think women don't worry about how they sound in text? Or how to have an engaging conversation? Etc etc. Do you think women just sit there mute and not thinking? You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:08 AM

B🐶tch ass P🐱ssy I won’t because that’s rude and not helpful…. Most passive aggressive thing I've heard In ages
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:03 AM
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Women do the following things too: Not as much as men. Not even close men are usually Expected to do all of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:41 AM
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That’s not why modern dating is hard for men. It’s hard for men because women are no longer compelled to be with men for financial security. That's not the only reason or the major one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:35 AM
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Please explain how men put in more work? In detail. Be very specific. Approaching women, making conversation, making them comfortable, being more proactive with flirting, relating back to them, being funny, making the conversation fun but not too fun and lowkey serious, being aggressive with being pushy, asking for her number, texting her in a suave way, asking her out on a date, planning around her schedule, setting up the date, planning the date, Taking her out, paying the bill, repeat multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:35 AM
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Even then... Barely
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:28 AM
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Yep and that requires much more effort and work than the initial stages of dating Maybe for women Are you happy to put that effort and work in to maintain a relationship??? It depends on the amount
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:28 AM
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Dating is work for women too. Not as much Men don't put in more effort. Yes they do What the heck is "unnecessary work" in regards to dating? They put in a fuck ton more work to attract and get women that goes nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:27 AM
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Maybe but until then I'm gonna be in a rut because I know how long it will take for me as a man to get to the point where I can get consistent results if I even get that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:26 AM
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Some bullshit... Just be confident bro manosphere talking points for guys who never struggle with women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:25 AM
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Ok and these repeated failures… again if it’s making a low effort tinder profile, sending a few “heys” to the few matches you might scrape up and maybe even once telling a crush you liked her then you haven’t really tried. If it’s also just trying to dress better and go to places like a club without actually working on talking to people or hoping for a woman to hit on them then again you haven’t reallly tried. A lot of projection here you need to slow your roll. Because you don't really know a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:24 AM
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Hard to say for real. I think it would be better of it was the same effort for women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:21 AM
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I think it should take a decent amount of effort sure it's a relationship you value then try to make it work sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:16 AM
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But just because you are not capable of clearing the bar does not mean that the bar has been set too high. The majority of men mind you Also of course you're gonna say that you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:14 AM
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I mean that’s exactly what it sounds like it’s literally the title, if not what are you saying??? Only if you're disingenuous. Or just really Adamant about making false equivalencies Sayinh dating is too much work for men does not equal relationships should require no work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:14 AM
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If you are discouraged from even trying then how do you actually know it’s that hard? Sounds like you’ve (or are asserting that many men have) given up before even trying. That's not what I'm impying at all. I'm implying that most men have tried and have given up after repeated failures
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:12 AM
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I don't give a shit? Find something to argue about or move the hell on. I'm not here to win YOUR approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:11 AM
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Do they ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:08 AM
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You guys are jumping to conclusion that me sing too much work is the equivalent of me saying I don't want any work or I don't expect any work It's not what that means and that's not what I was implying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:08 AM
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Dating is supposed to be work. Just more work for guys right,m Why are y'all against putting in effort? Don't you dare for a second try to make it seem like that men aren't the ones willing to put in the work because we put in more work than you guys do We aren't against putting in work it's just the unnecessary amount of work we have to do to get a little results
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:07 AM
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"pattern recognition." Something alot of racists and bigots say btw lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:06 AM
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I didn't say it should be easy however it's hard enough to wear most men are discouraged from trying hence the Incel and red pill rage culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:04 AM
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Nothing. It would just be nice to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:55 AM
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The Truth. That it is too much work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:50 AM

I just said you got me? you tryna double net me? 🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:50 AM
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For you, dating is too much work for you. Other men dont seem to have that problem. Wrong. MANY MANY men struggle with this problem which is why male incels are a thing and femcels are not really a thing. Theyre going about their lives dating, getting into relationships etc without issue. Wrong. Very few guys like this exist in a grand scale
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:49 AM
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No, this is simply men blinded by thirst thinking they have a chance with a girl who sends out 1 word replies. Yall be wasting your time, energy and self esteen on attention whores. If a girl enjoys your presence she'll give you a BJ while youre busy beating the rubik cube WR with a podcast about being a train conductor in the background For some men yeah. But most women don't like most men like that so obviously the men that can get this are lucky. Most women don't do this with most men they me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:48 AM
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Not really, improve your looks and don't be too autistic. Nah. Oversimplified. If a girl wants to spend time with you, she won't make it difficult. You won't have to jump through many hoops with a girl who's open to dating you. If you have to go above and beyond, the date was already DOA. You have to jump through hoops to get her attracted if your aren't very physically attractive tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:47 AM
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Unless you're trans, I'm not sure how you can say that with such confidence. Lame dudes and fuckboys are barely the tip of the iceberg and you really have no idea what it's like on the other side. Actually I do because I had a ton of trans friends for a phase. And they said it was much harder dating for men. Unless you count my close trans friend who only always liked women and pulled tail regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:44 AM
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That's you and your friends. Sorry I don't care how not entitled they are. Good for them if they aren't Your friends aren't most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:43 AM
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Have you considered that your view that dating is too much work for straight men may also be an exception and that actually the norm is that most men can actually get dates etc no problem. No. Because that's not what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:41 AM
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Men aren’t into most women and women aren’t into most men No. Don't agree. most men are into most women. Doesn't mean they'll date them long term overall but that's a different conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:40 AM
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Partnership requires effort up front and throughout the entire relationship. Just a crap ton more for men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:40 AM
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Lazy low testosterone man wants Miss America to beg him for a relationship. Alot of projecting here Batman. Someone pissed in your cereal?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:39 AM
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U telling me like this ain't public knowledge 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:39 AM
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The reality is it's still really really hard to attract and get those women that you want because you have to go above and beyond to get them going on a date with you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:38 AM
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Only if you can get her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:38 AM
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Yes. Which means you should be able to spot a waste of time very early into a match/date and limit the frustration. Not really because most men are not attractive so they have to deal with that regardless. Most women are still not going to be into them all that much Also if youre into most women it just means youre thirsty af. Jerk off, then dm that girl News flash most men of thirsty as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:37 AM
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Men could essentially 1 up them, and access the 70,000 women all around the world would marry them because they are significantlymore successful than the men in their country just by being American. There is enough beautiful women in the 3rd world to supply every man in the 1st world with an attractive girlfriend. 70k is crazy. I don't think the guys are anywhere near that insane not even close But you're right you do have a better chance of dating women overseas the problem is I don't have enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:35 AM
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I am saying women make plans and pay, too. 🫩🫩🫩 I question my sanity Everytime women do this. Why do you guys do this? Just because their are women exceptions doesn't make them the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:34 AM
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And yet, many couples also met doing shared activities. Funny how that works. It's becoming the norm for them not too. Also good for them doesn't reflect me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:33 AM

Yep you got me. Send me your number since you love incels so much. I'm on discord since that's where all the incels reside I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:31 AM
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Im confused on what your whole point was?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:29 AM
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Still very much so harder. Finding girls to date is ALWAYS hard. Most are in relationships and most have strict rules about dating people in certain circles because everyone hits on them and they only want men to approach them (Sometimes) at bars and clubs but who they hell wants to deal with that bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:28 AM
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Seriously, does it make it any easier for you to perseverate on the idea that it looks easier for someone else? Because you're reminded every day about how unbelievably hard it is compared to your life and how much longer you wanna put up the fancy monkey routine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:26 AM
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Women choose places and pay, too Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:25 AM
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If it feels like work she isnt into you. Most women aren't into most men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:25 AM
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Men could easily solve this if they removed the stigma of a "mail order bride" and dated one of the thousands of women all around the world who make $3 an hour who would marry them tomorrow. Funny but no
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:24 AM
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I mean, you could put in a lot less effort and land less good girls. Not me. Some attractive guys can but not me I know plenty low self esteem, mostly unattractive girls who give the world to men who treat them with indifference. Change your target group and you'll be amazed at the results. Good for them. They don't want me and any other men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:24 AM

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:23 AM
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I'd rather meet people in real life but real life dating is still insanely hard for men just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:23 AM
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You know what the picture thing you're right about. I guess I kinda ranting there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:22 AM

Assuming and not reading fine print. Typical. Leave and don't come back because you're wasting my time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:03 AM

no it's not. that would be the case if I said that a 10/10 and a 5/10 had the same chance to pull the same girl, and if the 5/10 guy fails because of looks then it's a skill issue. but I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying to work on what you can work on (like softmaxing, working on conversational skills and being a likable person with a good personality), and don't let rejection put you down. you can work on some of the cons that you listed, wallowing is never going to help I didn't come here …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:24 AM

it seems like you aren't because you get a lot of talking points from the internet Where are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:23 AM

Not even close. You can like someone's face, and feel good while being around them, and have no idea who they are, let alone whether you like who they are. Sure you can but you can also like that person as well That misconception is how we get husbands who "don't know what to get her for her bday." He hasn't learned a single thing about who she is, her hobbies/interests, her inner life, or he would have a shitton of obv options. He's married to a body, not a woman. A husband not really knowing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:20 AM

Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:15 AM
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And it literally does not matter what percentage of men anyways. HALF of women will still be victims of sexual assault at least once in their lifetime. You keep taking these statistics and applying them to men as if it's at all relevant to how it effects women. Does that equate to them being SAd by their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:09 PM
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Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:58 PM
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Liking what she looks like, or how he feels around her, isn't liking her. Yes it is. Attraction is only at the top of the ladder if sex is the primary purpose of the connection. No. People genuinely like dating attractive people... I know shocker... Kinda silly to acknowledge that the avg woman isn't in it for sex, and then act like having lower physical sexual attraction than a man in a similar position is a bad thing. If I don't care that much whether a partner has X, and I pick a partner who …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:58 PM

Like? You aren't being specific
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:53 PM
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No no no. Don't misquote me. It is very much so a big con. I was arguing that it's not a big enough con to where if you compared them to men then men wouldn't have a bigger set of cons as men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:41 PM
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Geniunely, what are you talking about? So no clarification on your part but I absolutely need clarification? I was referring women learning how to have better personalities, being more proactive, or learning to look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:39 PM
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I said in my post that it was a con for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:35 PM
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I said for the most part. We aren't counting the other 70 percent of men who aren't getting assaulted by their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:34 PM
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Dating a man without having the back of your brain doing a risk assessment is just not an option. Risk assessment of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:32 PM
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All of the cons you listed for men are things that men can personally work on. Missing the point entirely. Yes they can work on it. Just like women can work on it too. The issue is that women usually DONT have to work on these things at all or very little in comparison. And even if they wanted to learn these things it's much easier to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:31 PM
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what does this have to do with what I said? you just strawman every argument that I make. I was simply using personality as an example to show you that you remove nuance with all of your claims Oh god you really are a brick wall. How in the hell do you respond with men have shitty personalities but you can't see the connection of me saying that shitty personalities it's not as revelant when it comes to successful dating for men. Because men are expecting to lead. Jesus Christ Batman are you just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:30 PM

The best thing for a man is to focus between his 20s and 30s on becoming as attractive as possible. This is advice that every man should have received from his father or an older male figure. That applies equally. I'm still struggling to find out why men have the advantage here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:22 PM
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Ummm no sir quite the opposite but okay. Not gonna explain why? it’s not common knowledge men tend to openly pursue women more. Ok. How is that a pro? Generally looking good and having kids babe. Older men don't generally look good to most women the only ones are the one s who actually make good effort to look good while older while that also applies to women. I could agree with having kids tho It’s literally going outside, talking to women then reflecting on the interaction while being positive…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:22 PM
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That's 20 percent of men. It's not a low number but that doesn't equate to most
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:17 PM
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Couldn't I also apply this logic for Male rape? because the number of women that experience partner assault and sexual assault is between 20 to 30 percent. Not that low but not above half either. Of women who report rape, about 13-14% report anal rape, That's not a low number but not high enough time to make it seem like this is a high likely of happened or close to happening
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:17 PM
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I don't consider women being really alone because they can get most men at any time if they ever "relapse" so to speak men cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:13 PM
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that's not how it works. it would be a man problem if all men suffered from the same issues for no reason. if a large portion of men are single because of their shitty personality, is that a man problem? no that's a problem for the individual person. if a large portion of men are single because society doesn't deem them attractive, that's not anyone's problem it's unlucky and each person has their own journey with that. but saying it's just a "man problem" eliminates all nuance because men get r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:32 AM

I mean... They made themselves that easy to replace. Ehhh no Most men are that way regardless of whether they choose to It's much harder to be a dime a dozen guy. That's the issue It's much easier for women to be a dime a dozen because they have more inherent value and it's easier for them to improve
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:01 AM
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Ok... How does that invalidate my point besides misgendering you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:16 AM
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Sexual freedom is not the same as availability of sex. Sexual freedom is the ability to consent or not. Not having sex available to you is not an infringement upon any right. Being sexually assaulted however is, where then its do victims have recourse No. That's not what I meant by sexual freedom. Consent is paramount regardless of gender otherwise it's assault. I'm saying the sexual freedom to have sex without being slut shamed The vast majority of these assaults and homicides are perpetrated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:13 AM
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It doesn’t matter if most men are that though. That’s irrelevant. Enough men are like this for it to be a legit worry and something many of us have encountered. Enough of a worry. Yes. But saying it's not relevant when that's the ultimate thing you wanna avoid is pretty disingenuous. The ultimate goal is not to have a violent partner which happens but not common enough to where it's something that's worthy something being "irrelevant". It very much is relevant Also anal raped is so unbelievably …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:07 AM
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Good for you. You have success. Most guys don't have it like you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:50 AM
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You got a stat for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:42 AM
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Yes but most men aren't assaulting their partners. It's a risk but not as high as a risk as it looks from the surface
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:39 AM
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You're a woman your entire existence is Rose tinted glasses like come on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:34 AM
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News flash most men are not so miserable and undesirable they can’t find partners that make the pros of dating outweigh the cons. Sure they can. Because they find partners doesn't mean the pros are we the cons it just means the alternative is worse. Which is the alternative is being alone Just because they got a partner doesn't mean that the pros outweigh the cons get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:33 AM
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Maybe because I didn't list all of them but ultimately it is a lot harder to date as a man that is a given If I didn't list them all I can probably list more if requested But ultimately it's very bad lows for men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:28 AM
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Most men don’t need to be rapists for this to be something we’ve all heard from friends who have experienced it, and therefore have to worry about it. It is not uncommon, sadly. Men don’t hear about that from their friends and don’t have to worry it will happen to them. Yes but the reality is most men aren't this. We've heard stories sure we have I've heard plenty of stories from female friend myself. Most of the time the guy is being unnecessarily creepy and unnecessarily handy but it doesn't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:27 AM
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More often is the man. But it's still enough to be weary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:24 AM
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They don't shut up about men or loneliness even though they really aren't so I'm not gonna
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:23 AM
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Ugh. Screams pick up artists No. It's only fun if you're good at it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:23 AM
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Obviously it doesn't sound bad for you because you are a woman. You have most of the pros
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:22 AM
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Your title should be corrected to say ‘There are FAR too many cons than pros for dating for unattractive undesirable men’ News flash most men are undesirable and unattractive Your post reads like the reality of a male loser (no shade to you OP). That was definitely shade
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:22 AM
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Because dangerous relative and overall men have to deal with more danger period just not with partners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:21 AM
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Firstly not to soapbox but being born generally bigger, stronger, and being a lot less likely to be subject to S.Assault or sexism is a pretty nice perk we can’t over look dude and kind of means we win… that aside True it is a pro but not as much of a pro as you think because most males are not the extreme cases of being the type to assault people We get to be more “active” in our choosing verse women get much more volume but iffy quality. We can also better our odds more than women as well and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:21 AM
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A crazy woman can get another man to kill you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:17 AM
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Well. Most of em are ghosts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:17 AM
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You're just speaking for yourself bro. Pull back the Chad glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:17 AM
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So the cons outweigh the pros, to you Not to you obviously. A woman Some people don’t want to be alone, some people want to start families, and those pros might be enough to outweigh all the cons. Yeah they prefer that to being alone. That doesn't imply that they are for more cons. That just means you can win big if your successful which applies to anything. It's just much harder to be successful for men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:16 AM
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No it just tells me you want to confirm what you already believe I do give a fuck about what women go through the problem is that from me dating perspective we are far more handicapped
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:14 AM
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They are major things Sexual freedom is only given to the man who are the the top of the attractive totem pole which is in most men Less danger is a relative because men don't deal with as much danger when it comes to their partners but they do have to deal with heavy amounts of danger and everyday life because they are assaulted and killed way more And giving birth is just something that I would agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:13 AM
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Also the pro of having biological kids without having to give birth is quite a large pro, I agree again many men have strong desires to reproduce so would consider “having to approach” well worth the result. Not because the upside is so much worth it. It's just the alternative is so much more damaging Generally men don’t have to worry women will anally rape them if they decide to have sex. Most men aren't rapists. It's like saying women don't have to worry about getting as assaulted more because…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:10 AM
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Expected? By who?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:07 AM
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when did I say I disagree with this? I'm saying it's not "a con for men" as you say it is. if you're not succeeding because you're unattractive, then it's not a "men" problem, it's an unfortunate "you" problem It is a man problem because most men don't Succeed successfully with the opposite sex at a consistent basis if the man is flirting, the woman should also be flirting back. if she's not, then she's not into the man/going with his advances. and if a man is bad at flirting, that's a skill iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:05 AM
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Sure sure So pregnancy Trump's the pros for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:04 AM
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It's easier for both genders to be alone. No. It's easier for men. Less options means more lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:02 AM
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Because women don't so obviously it's free game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:02 AM
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I don't agree with this assessment at all you're only attacking it from the perspective of a woman. This is a very common thing that I'm tired of hearing and it's very much so overblown I almost guarantee you most of the men that date you like you. And have this weird notion that men are only attracted to a woman sexually and want nothing else You can argue that men are more sex crave the more sex starved and they are probably going to prioritize over anything but most of those guys aren't going…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:01 AM

Social skills, physical skills, or financial skills can help a man get what he desires. Even at a very advanced age. You only need one of these skills. Those are extremely hard to achieve to get at a high enough level to where you out yourself above most men in those categories. Men can reproduce until their death. If that's not a long-term advantage, I don't know what is. It becomes much harder for men to reproduce after 45 just like women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:59 PM
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So most women don't want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:15 PM

Men, as long as they play their cards right, can absolutely have wild sex into old age and then settle down with a pretty woman and have kids. Choosing isn’t giving up for a man, unlike for us. What exactly can a man have to play his cards right you didn't really mention a whole lot about the long-term advantages men have over women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:22 PM
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Not really it's like an exchange you make the effort to please and initiate and you get in return sex Your response and rebuttal is not doing you any favors. You reply with not really but you don't really explain why exactly it's not harder. You just explained that it's an exchange which again applies to both men and women. Sure something is being exchanged however that does not make your point when you look at the amount of effort the guy does on his behalf usually I'm not saying sex Isn't plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:17 PM
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Yes I get that but why are you always claiming it is a negative. The kind of the process of having a baby yes is very much so a hassle but you're only framing the negative as if women don't consent to also having babies with their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:15 PM
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Pregnancy is always bad and unwanted you dear summer child. Oh.... You're serious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:04 PM
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I didn't say they don't gain anything I'm saying the cons I outweigh the pros Anybody can get good results if they are good enough at something That applies for men and women It is just harder for men to be good at dating much much harder
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:04 PM
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You are also only speaking for yourself. Nobody is ditching guys they were interested in left and right because they didn't dance correct steps, Wrong See I'm not speaking for myself see that's what you got it wrong Their countless women online and men that have told the internet that there are tons of men that they have met that they were initially attracted to but they end up not liking in the end because the guy end up quote on quote "Fumbling the bag" Whether he flirted clumsily, whether or …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:58 PM
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You right it's not. But because of the cons it's makes it much easier for men to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:56 PM
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I know. Women are kinda the epitome of not being congruent with the narratives they virtue signal. Like being heavy into LGBTQ rights but being insanely homophobic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:47 PM
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I don't get it if it's that hard why do men still do it even more than women? Very obtuse response. They do it because they HAVE to. The alternative is being alone. And most women are never gonna have to really deal with loneliness because they have enough options to where they will eventually find a man that makes a move
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:45 PM
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You're just speaking for yourself. This comment means nothing for the general conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:44 PM
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And alot of women don't like bisexual men but will happily date bi women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:43 PM
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Oh god
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:42 PM
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Kinda proving why it's mostly cons
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:42 PM
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The cons you list are pretty similar, not exclusive to men, and don't look very bad compared to the pros. Explain how?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:41 PM
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That's a pro women also share so that's not really proving anything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:41 PM
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You seriously think the emotional risk of being rejected is "insane" in comparison to the risk of pregnancy and assault? You make it seem like pregnancy is always a bad thing.Unwanted pregnancy sure but the reality is most guys aren't rapists and most guys aren't serial assaulters for random women There's also higher infection risk for hetero women as compared to hetero men, as many STIs are more efficiently transmitted to anyone who is catching male ejaculate as compared to giving it. (Chlamydi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:41 PM

Explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:38 PM
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And what the hell are you arguing? I've never said that woman can't flirt. The obvious problem is.. men are usually the ones flirting and more directly because they are the ones that have to take initiative. Which again is harder to do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:38 PM
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This is not the take yourself by your bootstrap type post. If you want to promote that then good find a dandy If everybody was on a grower pair of trains and nobody would be lonely Highlighting the reasons why it's harder for men to break out of that lonely shell
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:37 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:36 PM
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higher risk of rejection and the opposite sex finding you unattractive are not cons for dating for men, that's more of a personality/looks thing How in the absolute hell do you come to this conclusion? If you have a higher risk of rejection that means you have a higher risk of not getting a relationship and if most people deem you as unattractive then obviously they don't want to date you how is this hard to grasp? flirting is something both people do, it's not just men. in fact, if one person i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:35 PM
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Women can also learn to flirt and seduce. And learning how to flirt and seduce is EXTREMELY hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:30 PM
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I'm saying. You have enough draft picks you'll always hit eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:29 PM
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I am just stating that yeah, yall have it better long term relationships but worse off in casual hookups etc How do we have it better for long term relationships? I noticed that a lot of women so unbelievably high privileged that it gives them a very flawed view on how much privilege men have because they are always projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:28 PM
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Who the hell said I was doing awesome things? I was highlighting that I am alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:26 PM
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Ok: then don’t date. Be alone and do the things you like. I'm already that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:23 PM
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Probably. But the pro, heck even one pro, can outweigh all the cons. I’d rather have one $100 bill than 100 quarters. So what's the pros for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:23 PM
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Where in my post did I imply that? I'd argue no. Because if men fail alot at the courting phase then they won't have a lot of long term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:22 PM
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Because men can't get sex as easily. So they value sex highly even if it's bad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:05 PM
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Because it's extremely hard for men to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:05 PM

It says only 9 percent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:00 PM

If anybody is suffering from instant gratification is women because of how replaceable men are for them Men don't really go through this effect unless you're talking about their very attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:31 PM

According to every GSS survey in the past couple decades, the majority of American men 18-29 are having sex at least 2-3 times a month (with many of them having sex more frequently than that). Clearly most men date and/or have sex. Where is that link?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:45 PM

Got any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:27 PM

They don't respect it half of the time. The probably will if it's another woman buying it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:22 PM

Well you do frequent this sub reddit so yeah more rp women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:21 PM

I agree. Better alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:21 PM

Wym all in?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:21 PM

Real people... Get on apps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:46 PM

It’s not a game with a countdown, if your only goal is to get through as many woman as you can as quick as you can, your 99% going to fail. You should be dating someone because you enjoy their company and hope for a future together. That’s what most woman do. Things on paper don't translate to reality. You can't afford to waste time on women who don't wanna date you long term because you don't have the options they do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:46 PM

Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:44 PM

Pot kettle. The number of men I know who haven't minded stringing on a woman until a better one comes along without any regard to her fertility is pretty damned high. Harsh but I could really care less about what your personal anecdotes tell you because usually a woman is going to date men that are desired by other women It's kind of like women saying all men cheat they're only talking about the men they're attracted to so for you you're only talking about the men that you are attracted to who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:28 PM

If I could give delta I would for this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:27 PM

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:47 PM

Most women don't have a line of men waiting to ask them out Apps say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:46 PM
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No shit they do because they are lazy and prefer everything to come to them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:41 PM
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No they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:15 AM

That's still not where the argument was headed I'm saying that women are complacent with this reality even though they constantly complain about it. The patriarchy with the men upholding all the power but yet women have enough power on their own in the patriarchy that they use that as a virtue signal to get more special treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:26 PM

If only you would be more specific to which quotes you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:22 PM

In some ways yeah there are going to be some misogynistic people in higher positions of power that are making it harder for the woman at the bottom However again considering that most women don't run for office or at least apply for the entire positions of power most women are content with the way things are because of the power they get from working in the middle area of most higher ranking offices
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:06 PM

What's my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:23 AM

Null and void because that still would not take precedent over the fact that most men take up law enforcement and military. So helping peoplebin trouble is something they do far more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:21 AM

Talking about what woman can do I'm not talking about can... This is not a Make-A-Wish foundation I'm talking about what actually happens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:19 AM

And doesn't need to be spelled out for you how unbelievably idiotic your points are? The idea that men are more violent than women is a stupid fucking point because that alone does not invalidate that there are NO violent women. You are a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:18 AM

Lived experience. Where are you getting that it's "very rare" from? Good thing that would only be very anecdotal What in the Jr high are you referring to? Read it again So enlighten me. What are the real world issues? Reread the post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:17 AM

Dude you sound like a dud
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:15 AM

Most women have jobs themselves. So a man isn't necessarily protecting them from poverty or homelessness, the women are already doing that themselves. Sure they are. The ones that aren't financially stable usually rely on a man that helps them financially. Which is why they aren't on the street. Hence why most homeless people are men because women aren't gonna take in a broke man I didn't realize that husbands provided 24/7/365 security. They don't. Now you just moving the goal posts because I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:14 AM
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I think you're missing some key contacts on what women are usually saying about the patriarchy They are usually saying patriarchal ideas are the reason that men pursue these higher echelon positions and usually abused that power because of patriarchal norms Of course the average guy is not always going into law enforcement but it is a lot more likely on average for men to be in law enforcement, military or in powerful positions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:25 PM
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Whet?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:24 PM
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And Most aren't this nowadays nor were they in times passed since you needed everyone working to survive. Considering how much women complain about the pay Gap this isn't true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:23 PM
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I would still have the same opinion even if I was pretty smug about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:22 PM
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Yes but you'll see a common talking point between a lot of women is that a patriarchy reinforces these systems where a lot of men will go to high rankings of power such as politics, law enforcement, or military And that has not changed. You might have a point that most military drafts aren't they thing anymore but when push comes the show of most men are still in higher ranking positions of power and most men are still in the military/ law enforcement So yes most of those jobs are very volatile
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:22 PM
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But most aren't soo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:40 PM
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Sure sure. Still wouldn't make it less valid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:40 PM

They do.... They have since the dawn of time Draft dodging was in every part of History a very common issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:39 PM
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Even if you explain it like I'm five it still wouldn't make sense because you guys are incapable of making it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:38 PM

Your low IQ is why you think it's contradictory. I wouldn't expect you to keep up since you're so slow
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:37 PM
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But they are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:36 PM
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I didn't complain about Minor benefits they have major benefits on many areas of life that I highlighted in my post
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:36 PM
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Ooh yes. This continues to be more and more common for women to do 50/50 on dates. It's more common than extremely rare. Based off what where are you getting this from? There's very rare amounts of women that want to pay 50/50 on dates. If you go to any public pools on who pays for the day is usually a man regardless of who asked who I'm certainly not going to believe the men in this sub know anything about real world issues. They are too obsessed with sex to know anything about real world issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:36 PM

I don't need an explanation on why you're low IQ. I already know that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:53 PM
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The overwhelming majority of brides contribute to the paying of their weddings. Have a conversation with any 2026/2027 bride and you'll hear how she's paying, he's paying, and maybe their parents, maybe. But it's less and less common for parents to pay for weddings. Oh no you're right about that. That was a mistake on my part for quoting the whole paragraph I was referring to the first two sentences which is that men get asked out by women and they pay for it the men on their dates which again I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:50 PM

And it sounds like you're obtuse yet again because you are There are plenty of movements that have fought for men's rights. Men going against men of higher power is not remotely a new thing. You can go back as far as any history and discover that most big Wars are a bunch of the little man getting shot on and teaming up with other military parties to fight a bigger military threat But you wouldn't know that since you are very obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:47 PM
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Where do you get that the average couple has only 1 income? I didn't say that most household couples are dependent on a man being the only one providing with one income The patriarchy benefits women because societal expectations and women can usually afford to date men who are the primary to sole providers and that applies to average women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:46 PM
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Wow . It should be this impossible to be this obtuse while literally reading the post Women don't take the burden of responsibility because most women don't campaign to be in the highest positions of power You might think that this is all beneficial for men but in reality there are a lot of cons to being in higher ranking positions of power I eat if you're not a good leader then people at the mercy of your bad leadership and you could lead to Rowan and any number of ways Women usually don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:41 PM
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Lady What are you talking about? What in the incoherent mess is this rebuttal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:30 PM
-10

So why yes, Conservative women do like the patriarchy. More liberal women have been fighting against it for hundreds of years at this point. This is very true and I agree with it I would argue though that the older people get the more they tend to move towards the conservative side just for the simple fact that as they get older they don't want a lot of responsibility on themselves It's too much weight
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:13 PM
0

I provided reality what the hell did you provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:12 PM

Great observation batman. Kind of weird that you didn't explain why my own logic didn't make sense though. Just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:11 PM
0

Service?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:11 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:10 PM
1

It's a general statement talking about women in general so yes there are some generalizations but that's kind of the point we are talking about a lot of women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:10 PM
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Yes, women are asking men on dates, paying for dates. Women pay for weddings, houses, and their spouses ring. The overwhelming majority do not Y'all need to stop thinking that online content is a representation of all women. You say this as you are currently online yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:09 PM
-3

It was poorly written but I clearly made it clear in my response that usually the brunt of the casualties and responsibility rely on the men because they are the ones usually attacking these issues
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:08 PM
-1

And women make themselves look even more obtuse with the rebuttals they give
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:06 PM
0

And they usually fail hence my points
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:05 PM

Men are more violent than women. That's a fact. Way to argue points I never did you obtuse mongrel News at 11:00 you're telling me stuff that everyone knows The men are more violent than women. Okay. When the fuck was that part of my dispute?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:05 PM
0

Doesn't that validate women's concerns about tearing down the patriarchy? Why should women acquiesce to a more violent demographic? I mean let's pretend that what you're saying is 100% right They still wouldn't want to tear down the patriarchy because that would mean they would be giving up all the benefits of the patriarchy is my issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:04 PM
-1

But they aren't the sole Primary provider is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:03 PM
-1

So why can't men fight to repeal the decision? Some do. Draft dodging was an extremely common thing in the 1900s dude What are you talking about? This isn't an average experience. That's a very specific segment. Where the hell do you come from to where you say this is not average?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:03 PM

A decision made by men. So please, take it up with men What an absolute dumb rebuttal and frankly I'm tired of hearing women use it because that proves they're even more obtuse than I originally thought It does not matter if a man made this decision the problem is men are also affected by other men of power This is the equivalent of saying women who delete their own children is the women's fault because women gave birth to those women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:01 PM
2

And you will make sure that you are really dead because those men are probably going to be more well-equipped to put you down
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:59 PM
0

Created by men. And most gun owners are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:58 PM
-2

Those are the exact type of women I'm talking about and I'd argue that most women do hold these sort of beliefs to where they believe that they should be the ones primarily provided for and get most of the benefits of the patriarchy they are just a lot more subtle about it Lots of guys and men desire to be the leaders in the relationship and look for women to be always submissive in every context of the word And most people in power are men. Most politicians are men. True but that's because thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:56 PM
1

I see we lying now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:37 PM
2

Just because you saw a bunch of examples online doesn’t make it worth debating. Try again. It's funny you say that. Where is this conversation taking place hmmm? 🫩
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:37 PM
0

Hey man absolutely should share power with a woman if she is trustworthy characterize
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:34 PM
-2

Yall don't have to be leaders. Men desire the power that comes with leadership and rarely share it with women This is just blatantly false. If this was true the case if patriarchy was the end all be all then no woman would have positions of power in the first place. You know there are a ton of women and the government and work for the White House right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:34 PM
-2

Security from what? And how is the patriarchy providing security? Violent Men, violent woman, poverty, homelessness, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:33 PM
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Men are much more lethally violent than women. It’s not even close actually. Women don’t need security from other women. They need it from other men. Full stop. Bullshit. And you know that's bullshit the idea that you're pushing as a grown ass woman that women aren't violent and don't need to be protected from other women is extremely childish. And here's the kicker you know absolutely what you're saying is bullshit. I guess Bonnie from Bonnie and Clyde was the only one robbing banks and killing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:32 PM
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I said so in the post. Did you not read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:29 PM
-1

I'm not saying that they don't though. I'm saying men are usually the ones that are first to have to respond to this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:28 PM
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What does this exactly mean? Life threatening events are typically unpredictable and happens to anyone. There are female doctors and nurses who mitigate the threatening events. I mean true I probably could explain that better I mean generally when there is a crisis involving a city or a country then the men usually have to get involved directly with the violent opposition
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:28 PM
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can relax into her feminine This is womanese for lemme be the observer and not do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:28 PM
-2

Of course it does, why would I do something that doesn’t benefit me like cold approaching guys lol So you're rebuttal is Bulljive because you're literally doing the same thing you accuse me of. Try to use a little bit of logic because I actually approach women It benefits me because it gives merhe best results You don't know that because you gave up on it. You haven't even approached enough men to draw that conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:27 PM
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BUT IT ABSOLUTELY BENEFITS YOU. Because you are no longer putting your neck on the line and being lazy waiting for guys to do that for you. I could use that same logic which doubly applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:21 PM
3

Based on what stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:06 PM
-1

No it's not. It's just terrible advice for women who wanna stay lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:06 PM
1

This is Bulljive. This is an excuse to not approach because not all men think like this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:05 PM
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Is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:05 PM
1

That's bullshit. They don't have to desire to approach because they are cowardly and egotistical. But they absolutely do want to meet the guy If he's attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:04 PM
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They don't have the need they do it because they have to because they don't have the options to wait
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:58 AM
3

Yes but that's been one guy. What might not have worked for one may have worked for another. That didn't stop you again from asking women out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:03 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:12 AM
1

Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:11 AM
5

Define approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:11 AM
2

And it pisses me off because they have no self reflecting skills
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:26 AM
1

Since most men can never be “King68” this topic shouldn’t even be bothered to be brought up if only “King68” has a chance of being approached. I was being somewhat humorous there but the reality is unless you are a very attractive man the odds of getting approach is extremely low If “King68” has already been approached and has a harem of women already then there is just no other decent men left to chase now is there? Women will just have to settle for box whine, cats and romance books. What the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:39 AM
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So why should women make it easier for men to get what they want while making it harder for themselves to get what they actually want out of the encounter? Because you don't know what either them wants. She could want sex and he could want relationships you don't know either of them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:32 AM
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if she approaches a hot guy herself either he'll reject her or use her for sex and pump and dump her. EVERYTIME? EVERYTIME?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:31 AM
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but reality is men are designed to approach, they feel an urge to do it, they want to do it, and they do it to women who are interested and women who aren't. That's bullshit. Men do it because they feel it's their obligation to because society trained them to think that way Also they approached because they know that they don't have as many options as women so they can't afford to not approach
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:30 AM
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Ive heard that it is in certain countries. If you're just ok looking, the women throw themselves at you. I feel like there might be a bit of jbw(just be white) going on there, but probably not. I highly doubt that maybe in very specific areas but in most it's not common Even in places like Russia where women vastly outnumber men is still not common
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:24 AM
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I can almost guarantee that if most men were fine to you then you would consider it You still wouldn't do it knowing how women are but you would probably consider it more I've seen this song and dance way too many times women basically saying I'm not attracted to most men is something wrong with me Then they joined their local gym or go to a event where there is a slew of attractive men there and if they go home alone then they say why aren't men approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:23 AM
1

I said they do approach in low numbers though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:21 AM
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If this is not a clear example of woman get special privileges just for being women and it's rules for thee and not for me then I don't know what the fuck is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:20 AM
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Based on what? The extremely small sample size of women who did approach who had bad experiences? Because I know plenty of relationships that lasted for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:18 AM
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I know. They are cowards. But they should in an alternate reality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:18 AM
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Only because of my experience, my opinion now is that I would need to see a male do the heavy lifting of pursuing the first date Of course you probably would never understand this from a gas perspective but at least for me when you describe it like that it just reeks of laziness Also it's funny how you went full circle to say my experience leads to being lopsided on my end so my solution is that in order for relationship to work it has to be lopsided on his end No I'm not saying that you are exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:17 AM
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I don't like this bullshit narrative that just because we are born males that it inherently makes us Uber masculine or want to be leaders. I'd argue the overwhelming majority of people men and women don't want to be leaders. It's a fuck ton of responsibility and most people don't like sticking their neck out on the line especially if they know a person can chop it off in the most cruel way possible Men accept being leaders because that's what women expect of them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:15 AM
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Approaching is a masculine thing Both women and men exhibit masculine traits. And if argue most of those traits are result of the way society pushes those It shows risk taking and assertiveness, A positive trait I don’t want to start a relationship off with that energy. Most women don’t. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:13 AM
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So women would be stuck with the burden of approaching and with the results of engaging in sexual activities which could lead to pregnancy and children. Which she would be responsible for and would have to sacrifice her body and life for. A woman is not automatically inclined to have casual sex with a man just because she approaches him. She can choose to drop him as an option altogether just like any other especially if he is exhibiting science that he only wants sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:12 AM
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Idk, I think while competition may be higher with less men, women just don't have the drive to pursue men especially if she has a good job and a good social circle. They don't have the drive due to laziness, ego, and society expectations. Also they aren't attracted to most men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:10 AM
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What's this for?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:09 AM
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What’s stopping you from choosing to quit pursuing women and wait for a woman to come ask you out? I'm not King68 How do you know that women aren’t already asking men out and that you just aren’t being chosen? Because I know that the majority of women don't. Some do but they are rare . Men are known for saying yes to women’s approaches just to get sex so how can women trust men when men will lead them on? Being lead on for sex is way worse than being lead on for money. I beg to differ because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:09 AM
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Define plenty? And define their approach? Also I said it's never gonna happen but in a perfect world I think if we lived in a dystopian one it should be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:44 PM
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Women say the opposite to what I said they did. I won't admit I'm wrong, but it conflicts with what I said so they must not mean it!" Wrong about what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:43 PM
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Get with the times No Women are now saying they'd like to be approached more, not less. This is womanese for I'm not getting approached by the man I find attractive or the man I find attractive is not approaching me Anyway, men would just complain about being approached by women they don't want if things were reversed. Sure they would but that alone would not make not feasible for women to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:01 PM
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What's approach in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:59 PM
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It's clear that you don't think you are the most attractive but most women clearly do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:59 PM
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I didn't say most age got relationships were huge but there is a gap and usually the guy is older
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:49 PM
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Am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:32 AM
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Even then I'd recommend going after someone their own age mostly instead of that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:32 AM
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Both. I'd don't pursue either with older women anymore unless they are throwing themselves at me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:31 AM
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Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:31 AM
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Yeah I yearn to meet women like that all the time. On the off chance I approach the older women usually don't wanna date younger so not many in my area to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:52 PM
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Lol thats not even remotely true. Most age gap relationship even studies show the men is usually older by a few years. You are living in a dream land
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:50 PM
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No. I know from experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:04 PM
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I wouldn't say minority. It's just that most women don't like younger men is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:02 PM
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Or maybe u met an older woman that just wants to have fun and likes young guys. And maybe u connect and things end up going further. They aren't common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:01 PM
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It doesn't apply to you because you're attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:01 PM
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Exceptions happen. I'm talking about generally
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:00 PM
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Most women feel exactly how you feel
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:00 PM
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Got to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:00 PM
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Intolerant?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:59 PM
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I am a woman and as long as I keep seeing this propaganda from men, I won’t date a man even a day older than me Girl you are not fooling anybody. We already know women these days don't even like dating guys the same age as them they usually prefer older so I don't buy what you're selling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:59 PM
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You're a rare specimen indeed. I wish more women like you existed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:57 PM
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Hookups are harmless Sure. But I'm saying going after is a waste of time. If if she's shooting MAJOR signals or she's actively making an active effort to get with you that's one thing. But otherwise if not... Stay away
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:57 PM
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Off? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:53 PM
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Also, older women do like flings with younger men... Not unless that guy is blatantly their type or alcohol involves sure. If you try with an older woman and it didn't work then it doesn't mean all older women will share the same sentiment. Not all no. I just say the majority are not interested in dating younger so sekk your sights elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:46 PM
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Who told you it was that low?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:31 PM
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but I also hate this "don't date women above a certain age" bs requirement too. At the end of the day, date who makes you feel good about yourself. But this is not a weird requirement thing for me. I like older women. I just think it's a waste of time for younger men to go after them because they don't generally like dating younger that's different
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:29 PM
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Lol it's seems that way doesn't it. I just personally only approach and go after women my age or slightly older by like maybe a year or 2
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:28 PM

They did eventually but it wasn't that way at first
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:22 PM

Okay I might have overreacted. I'd still say that it's still a minority of women in this category though Go back and re-read what I said. Especially the "It's not just about not wanting to be the leader," part. True
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:01 PM
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True but again the original statement was that you think it's harder for women because they get a lot of meaningless sex but men don't get any sex just straight loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:32 PM

It doesn't really matter much who you know the reality is the only one majority of women don't like to lead just look at the overwhelming spaces of women who absolutely despise the act of them having to approach a man, ask a man out, asking man to be their wife and marriage, propose, or asking them what they want in bed Your projecting your own likes and one on other women and that's not how it works most women don't work that way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:20 PM
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Nah. A straight guy doesn't get sex or relationships until he waits forever. A straight guy has a much harder chance to get relationships or sex because most women find most men even straight ones Unattractive. Also Bi men can date women if their willing to lie about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:19 PM
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Well I've never even heard of this and she doesn't sound that prominent I believe some women are highly libido and some aren't. Most aren't but some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:05 PM
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Good for you. You're an anomaly that's not how it works for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:04 PM

That would just be you though I'd reckon that most women hates leading in bed or in the bedroom they were probably just called the whole interaction off
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:55 PM

I'm still not following
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:54 PM

Claim what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:34 PM
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So date women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:31 PM
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Haha no. That's not it brother. The women of yesterday had to deal with that not the ones today. It's like me saying I had to deal with slavery because I'm black
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:30 PM
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At first all the matches from men were flattering, but eventually it just felt so icky. It makes me feel like all I am good for is to be a piece of flesh to have sex with and no one cares about who I am. For average men it's worse because they CAN'T switch sides. They are neither getting affection romantically or affection intimately. So no sex and a relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:27 PM
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As an average at best guy, if a woman approaches me, then I know they actually like something about me more than my appearance. That is absolute bullshit and I can't believe you said that with the utmost confidence Woman just like men are visual and considering most women are too unbelievably chicken shit too approach men the only men they would absolutely without a doubt consider ever approaching is a guy who is insanely attractive not because they like you personally or they know your personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:26 PM
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What kills me about redpill crap is the idea that women CAN'T like sex Which red pill ideologies or media figures are promoting this? I haven't heard that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:25 PM
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That will never happen because Simps exist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:22 PM

But that's kinda the point. A guy with little experience is not gonna mind girls with little experience either. You mind because you have a lot more experience. Also most guys don't need a girl to be Lana Rhoades in bed. Just be present and don't fake it. Women ABSOLUTELY require you to be much more experienced in bed because they don't like being in the leader role and they hate to lead. Also women have low patience for guys who don't know what they are doing. It's very different for both
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:18 PM
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How in the hell do you get on Bumble and not know that's the whole point behind me app?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:07 PM
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Another smooth brain post by Lilith typical
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:13 PM
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I did say that it happens it's just extremely rare and they only do that for big exceptions anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:49 PM
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It would take a very long time for them to start doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:00 PM
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Looking their best in dating them it's not remotely the same
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:40 PM
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Most men do not remotely want that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:41 PM
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This is the most women black pill thing I've ever seen. Like most men don't even work remotely close to this Also just because you would be ok pursuing dont mean most women would
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:56 PM
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Yes but women in most cases aren't fully tied to social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:55 PM
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Lol why is that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:54 PM
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It's not like hinge where you can connect off something you like in your profile or make a comment off pics. You have to match ahead of time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:58 AM
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Yeah but it also wouldn't sense you also have the chance of someone being out of your league
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:15 AM
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I don't get what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:15 AM
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But if men stop approaching, then the women would be forced to start approaching if they want a sexual relief that is not masturbation. The reality is men wouldn't stop. Even with lower sex drives. They still desire connection and don't have the options as women Yes. That is hoe societal changes are. It takes years, maybe even generations. Part of the problem is that people nowadays don't want to sacrifice for an improvement for the future. Like, enduring ridicule in order to normalise a behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:13 AM
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I agree ... Somewhat. Instead, women are biologically hard-wired by evolution and sexual selection to do the choosing and filtering and not the chasing Yes so wouldn't that inadvertently confirm that women indeed are taught to be lazy in the courtship phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:34 AM
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Wouldn't if you didn't talk to him in a day then you wasn't all that interested to begin with? Also you can't unmatch on Bumble?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:33 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:31 AM
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Why would the juice seem more worth the squeeze?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:30 AM
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What you learn offline and in real spaces where women might pursue is that almost none of them have even a thimbleful of game, but they can get away with it unless they go full-on creepy in their behavior. Nah. Not seeing what you're seeing. If a woman is pursuing a man it's either A he's EXACTLY their type looks match wise, he physically attractive in general, He has a great personality, or has alot of game
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:30 AM
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They changed the woman-first contact policy a while ago, so I don’t know why it would continue to not fare well. Because alot of the women wasn't sending messages to the matches. So they wasn't initiating first messages
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:28 AM
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—> The word “excuse” is very odd, in this context. No one needs an “excuse” to not interact with a random stranger online. I would argue alot do. A lot of people might not respond out of laziness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:26 AM
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I don't think there's any reason that women wouldn't do most of the initiating and pursuing while men were more passive. It's not laziness, it's just lesser desire and higher selectivity. The reality is even if sex drives did switch it would change how many women would court men but not enough to make a huge difference Women don't pursue because of biological customs. Like how animals work. Men the pursuer and women being the receivers. Now we can't go against biological customs if we train enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:20 AM
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They are lazy and they have too much pride and ego
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:15 AM
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Yeah but even when you don't count hinge all the other ones like hot or not, tinder, FB dating, etc. still use that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:49 PM
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As toxic as it sounds it seems to be true for what I've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:46 PM
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I very much agree that woman are supreme cowards and we should call them out more for that. Especially if they are the type of woman to call a man of coward for not initiating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:46 PM
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I only address that a lot of men were getting matches that didn't amount to anything. I didn't specify how many matches they were actually getting and I think they weren't getting much matches at all and then when they did finally get matches they weren't getting responded to Also I addressed that yes the men of the super high caliber looks were getting message but again for the rest of the guys who weren't these mega crazy physically attractive guys they weren't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:45 PM
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Pride and ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:44 PM
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I'd argue that women are just as lazy at men when it comes to courtship it's just that men seemingly look lazier
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:43 PM
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From what I've seen I found it and say the hard to believe There's a bunch of content online about how women are upset that men don't approach them in public even the guys they do actually like
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:35 PM
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Yes but every dating at work this way but bumble is the outlier in it since that it had a massive drop off in users especially after a big spike during its start. I don't realistically expect it to compete with Tinder blow for blow but again it's not even relatively making any waves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:33 PM
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So you’re mad that women reached out to men they find attractive instead of you? Nah If they’re reaching out to talk to men they DO find attractive, that’s not laziness, that’s pursuing exactly what they want. Well the match implies that they are attracted to some of the men but they are not going to put in any effort besides the absolute top tier band
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:32 PM
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Women are usually less interested in pursuing men than men are in pursuing women. That sounds way too convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:31 PM
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I think it proves that women are less interested, which should not be surprising. There was an uproar about Bumble’s messaging a couple years ago. Less interested sounds way too easy and to convenient for a person to use as an excuse Also, do you have a source for “it’s just been revealed…” Sorry that was a little bit misleading Basically on Twitter there were a couple of tweets that show that bumble stocks were way low or all the way down I can find the tweet and send it to you but I can't post…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:31 PM
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but I have occasionally had women send long paragraphs and try very intensely to make a connection with me. This sounds like a case of them already knowing you ahead of time because why would they do this if they just met you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:26 PM

Lilith you find more ways to be more smooth brained than you already are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:55 PM
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Only with Chad men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:02 AM
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She said if meant the traditional women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:00 AM
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Do you even hear yourself? When you bring more chaos into the mix I a woman are very different and they will be disinterested in a little of things just for the simple fact that they are different then yeah a lot of guys are not going to feel very calm on the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:59 AM
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It usually does tho. Being honest is for the guys that are already good with women or are physically attractive. And a guy like either of these is usually not gonna be on this subreddit
/r/seduction04/03/26 02:45 PM

Average guys are able to get girlfriends. Yeah if you wait long enough sure. It's not easy for the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:19 AM

Of course not they don't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:25 PM

Women do have an increased risk of death. Period. Not period. Against partners. And yes I acknowledged that they have an increased risk of death against partners. Did you.... Read my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:25 PM

I don't like you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:24 PM

Puts the record straight
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:24 PM

Lady you are the most disingenuous woman on the planet. One fk the most common complaints about women is them complaining that men are usually too unappealing physically or boring
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:23 PM

Not many is it the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:22 PM

Thanks for the observation Batman. How does that disprove my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:22 PM

Able to have occasional casual sex with friends when he's younger - friends he trusts who become FWB - if he runs in promiscuous circles? Probably 50/50. He'll just have to know them for a while first and run in uninhibited social groups. What's occasionally? Able to get a girlfriend who he finds physically attractive? Definitely. No Able to go on dates? Absolutely. If he waits long enough? Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:22 PM

There is not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:42 PM

And your full of it. Because that's not how it works. Most guys would be ladies man if it was that way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:59 PM

This also reflects the reality of the men I've spoken to all over the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:59 PM

Because I hang around a lot of social groups and the men that they talk to on the regular are normal Guys and they aren't attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:26 PM

Yes but I'm not talking about those people tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:25 PM

According to who? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:25 PM

Dude
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:03 PM

Normal men are doing this because the average man doesn't lose his virginity at 30 and end up single and swiping on the apps at 40. Just because the percentage of incels is ticking up doesn't make that representative of society. Also, more people are choosing to remain voluntarily celibate (consistent with religious revivalism in the West in some pockets, and increased aversion to dating apps/hookup culture), but that doesn't mean they can't get dates and aren't trying out relationships. Yes but…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:02 PM

It's easy if you have good game Which game isn't easy to learn so therefore it approves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:33 PM

Of all the things I had to learn in my life, game is actually easy. No You are downright denying the existence of in cells please stop it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:33 PM

Sounds to me like you draw very obtuse conclusions from a post that has nothing to this extreme magnitude
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:32 PM

Yes but most men are pretty neutral and not as extreme minded and they are boring to most women. They aren't even interested in most talks like these
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:31 PM

Nobody wants to date someone boring. Boring is boring. Normal isn't boring. I think you're speaking for yourself here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:30 PM

No. You're overly dismissive rhetoric is probably the biggest thing that hurts men in this day and age. I went to plenty bars dude it's nowhere near as easy as you're making it there's a lot of guys in the bar that get drunk and go home alone please stop with this overly simplified "ITS NOT THAT HARD BRO" rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:29 PM

No I've seen it in real life and I don't think there's many studies on women finding men boring specifically. Kinda very specific
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:28 PM

Yes but women have the final say so on consent and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:27 PM

Most men find most women boring as well. I wouldn't agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:26 PM

I agree. Which does come back around to OP: knowing how to be “normal” and not confrontational Why the fuck would I need to know this? Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:24 PM

I mean technically their isn't a pay gap lol and you don't need Jordan Peterson to back that up but imma let you finish 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:21 PM

Yeah this does make sense. My nephew does this all the time and it's exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:20 PM

I 100 percent what no one likes a know it all. I'm saying when people make statements like that it always bothers me because it's not making any form of nuance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:20 PM

See there is a polite way to educate people and then there are people who just make the other person feel stupid for not knowing everything. And the latter are usually not very good company. I agree. I hate people who do that too. The problem I have with people is that some people won't ever budge in their decisions or thinking at all. Especially if they been taught bad rhetoric for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:18 PM

you took the same lazy, bad faith interpretation that other red pillers and red pill adjacent guys took. How? Explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:15 PM

And not be insane
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:15 PM

You are wondering why someone doesn’t want to date someone who thinks the things they say are “dumb and cringe” and argue with them about the things they say. KEEP UP I can't believe I have to explain myself again. If you say dumb and cringe things I'm not confused of why you don't like that I think it's dumb and cringe. If you genuinely believe it is. Then of course you are going to defend your dumb and cringe statements. Its like arguing with a flatearther. I don't have a problem with them def…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:14 PM

Increased risk of death Overall? No. Women have an increased chance of dying to their partners. But most people arent murderers. Does it happen sure. But most people at best don't murder their spouses. Pregnancy Sure Being used for sex Sure. But id also argue that overwhelming majority of men are not attractive enough to get this done. Increased risk of violence Again are you talking about partners? Because this isn't true. Lesbian women also VERY high DV rates Increased risk of std contraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:04 PM

I don't wonder. I wonder how you can say unbelievable abhorrent statements like this tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:02 PM

People normally try NOT to be dumb and cringe on dates. Try and what actually happens in reality is TOTALLY different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:01 PM

Even if they aren't on this side of the extreme what makes you think normal men are doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:17 PM

I know. It's ok when things don't gain much traction it's easy to ignore. But when it's getting to the point where most people are repeating it it's need to be addressed It's like the man vs bear bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:04 PM

No. Not even close. Make a case of why it's just as hard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:01 PM

Lol how do you usually rage bait them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:01 PM

Yes but I think we are well aware that it's much more difficult for men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:58 PM

Then the second is about women's action. And what about men's action? Did you lose it? I bet it wasn't even created. Wym mens action?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:57 PM

"Normal" men aren't boring. Normal men built rapport, banter/flirt, ask a woman out if she reciprocates, and are capable of coming up with a basic idea of something fun for the two of them to do during a date, No. This is false as hell. Their are PLENTY of normal men who DONT do this because they don't have as good as social skills as the guys YOU want that have this. You are only describing the men YOU like and pay attention to Because alot of the normal men you DONT like or lay attention to Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:55 PM

Yes but you do understand that things don't happen without a women's say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:54 PM

And they'd agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:53 PM

Women put a lot of effort to not get beaten, abused, kidnapped or assaulted. Being safe is not a crap ton of effort it's just not being an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:53 PM

50% of people in dates and relationships are average men That doesn't mean that they didn't struggle a lot to get those
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:53 PM

I LITERALLY said that this sort of logic is prevalent on most platforms now. And again it wouldn't disprove my point. Regardless of if that content was created to spur controversy it's still annoying when people repeat those stupid talking points
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:21 PM

I mean id argue men is far harder but I don't say dating for women is easy anymore. Still hard just less difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:19 PM

That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying these statements are dumb and cringe because people are being simple minded and not clarifying their statements
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:17 PM

If you were being serious then I'd heavily disagree because game is not easy to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:16 PM

Now to be fair that as a blanket statement is problematic but id argue that half of dating for women can be turned into easy mode by just being skinny
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:08 PM

This reeks of sarcasm that I'm not noticing yet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:07 PM

It's easy to get dates for average person For a man id argue it's still hard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:07 PM

And the reality is most people men and women don't say it but every once in a while considering how delusional some women are online they will say that dating is easy for men and then you will have those men that act like women that are very pandering that will say dating is easier for men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:06 PM

Idk, I disagree with a lot of men on a lot of things. But sometimes its best to leave people to the beliefs they won't let go of If im dating a man, and he is so sure his pink shirt is red. Why would I argue with him? Very good analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:05 PM

I agree with your sentiment that arguing with a Woman in real life is usually counterproductive. Especially when you know that a lot of women follow a lot of stupid and very dumb ideals that they live by that they got all tick tock Which is why I think most men should call them out online instead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:05 PM

If it’s “normal” as in “enjoys things normal people like”, like having fun, enjoying a hug from a loved one, not wanting to see people hurt, it’s more be a base expectation in that LACKING these traits will make many women not want to date you. I think people say this mostly to neurotic men who say shit like “women are SO SENSITIVE, you can’t even tell them the wage gap is a myth without them spazing out!” Because a “normal man” would know you shouldn’t be trying to argue and denigrate someone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:04 PM
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It always is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:58 PM
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Then you are not qualified to say women aren't complaining about it. It's just not in your feed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:39 PM
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All of em? Because their are tons of videos like this. Some are ...but alot are not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:38 PM
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Then I HIGHLY doubt you use it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:10 PM
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Actually they do complain about it alot actually. I just think you're not around those women. There's always a woman complaining about period cramps, pregnancymies, hot flashes, mood swings, feeling bloated, cramps, etc. Like what? I highly doubt you hang out with women above 25. Isn't it like a running joke for guys to go to the store for their gfs or wives for tampons or pads because their wife is too sick to do it herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:53 PM

As a guy who follows your same path. You definitely had it.l coming
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:38 PM
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I don’t think women complain nearly as much as men do about this So.... You don't own Tik Tok?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:37 PM

There's no way you just said that. I think you are legit trying to rage bait
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:35 PM
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Most girls are hang around guys like themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:26 PM
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You said close friends. Doesn't that make a big difference? And again that alone doesn't mean that's is definitive proof of why men don't get women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:46 PM
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They are. We are literally saying they are interacting and making female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:34 PM
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Why do you assume that? There a plenty of men that have meaningful platonic friendships and still can't get women. I did for a decent amount of my early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:20 PM
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Yeah I know plenty of dudes who didn't have sex in HS. Like in least in my area most dudes are whores but I met a fuck ton from ones who didn't go to my school
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:19 PM
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Very hard to believe. I see most men losing their virginitys until their early 20s. Maybe that is the actual stat but It can be extremely hard to see
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:05 PM
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Nobody “becomes” a ladies man. Guys who are ladies men were always like that, ever since they came out of their mother‘s womb This is satire right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:02 PM
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But I already confirmed that men were doing that already
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:00 PM
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Well thank you for confirming that we shouldn't. It all's starting to make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:58 PM
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Are you genuinely being serious? Yes they find people to have sex with eventually but they usually go through very long dry spells or they usually hire prostitutes for that exact reason. On the auctions that you are being serious which is concerning. The question was can man get sex easy and the obvious answer that is no. Waiting for very long periods of time for sex it's not the definition of easy that's the exact opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:18 PM
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The reality is... I agree somewhat that there are guys that will run the experience for other guys But also the reality is most women are not near as attracted to most men as men are attracted to most women. Not even remotely close. So most women wouldn't still be attracted to most men even if they had great experiences with men in bed. Also women are not near as high libido as men so for them they usually want to stick to partnerships and dating certain men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:13 PM
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For most men in general? Its very hard to become a ladies man. There isn't a "training camp" Awww why not? But there are just certain people in the world that are predestined to be a certain thing. Ladies man is one if them. Call me new fashioned. But personally I don't believe in predestination to do anything unfortunately. I Think most men learn from a very young age and some people are just naturally better at learning things. Or I don't know maybe that is just predestination in itself It rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:01 PM
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I'd argue that men not putting as much effort into the bedroom is not why they aren't getting casual sex. A woman has to warn you romantically somewhat and sexually a lot to want to have casual sex with you and most guys don't feel that need. However I do agree with you somewhat that guys don't put as much effort into the bedroom. This is something that me as a guy personally could never understand because I as a guy want to learn about my partner and learn different things and please my partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:59 PM
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Yeah the studies on sexual partners seems to be on par for the course but the relationship part doesn't seem true at all from what I've seen and I haven't seen the studies to support the relationship before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:50 PM
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Can you give me some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:48 PM
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So then it's not a general consensus or a thing that happens with most men this is just it works for some men and it for some it doesn't Like dude you are literally stating the absolute obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:48 PM
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men here can't even think to understand something about women. Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:45 PM
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That's why I asked the question for most men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:42 PM
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Dude I've been on dating apps plenty of times that's never been my experience or lots of young man's experience for that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:41 PM
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According to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:40 PM
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I'd argue even for very average woman that's really hard to do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:33 PM
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Kind of impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:32 PM

It literally doesn’t matter though don’t you get it? You can fuck 10000 women or 3 and nobody will ever call you a “ran through” cum bucket. You may even get praise. You’ll never be a “304”. There’s so many terms for degrading women who have sex even when it’s just one guy they’ve been with. Those terms don’t apply to men the same way. Just be honest. Oh wow so you're just insanely bad at reading huh? So this is not you arguing logic you just arguing because you're mad that this double standard …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:31 PM
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That's why I asked the question for a minute in general or most men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:29 PM
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Hell I barely think most guys could even really get that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:28 PM
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I think you need a lot more than just that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:27 PM
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No I think your failure to see his point is kind of the problem He in no way is indicating that same friendship as a rejection is kind of a problem. He's saying that guys are only getting friendships and not relationships. Because the woman that he meets almost never see him that way as a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:26 PM
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Oh wow. You are genuinely being obtuse. No one said you needed to change the slogan. Your post is titled the exact same way that the billboard says. If you truly didn't believe the billboard and wanting to just have a discussion you could have simply asked Is Rejection hot for women or changed the flair to a discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:23 PM
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Having civilization cater to and prop up your sexuality since the beginning of time as fact probably clouds your ability to see the other side of things and how detrimental demonizing/controlling female sexuality has been throughout time. The downstream effects of such actions are profound. I don’t blame you for not experiencing the fall out. How could you? Oh boy here we go. Listen I'm not saying that society demonizing and controlling female sexuality is a good thing it's obviously not and it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:21 PM
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I don’t think that’s true at all. Heterosexual people are always gender segregating their friendship groups, you see it all the time. So that would disprove your original argument that guys don't befriend women And the problem is even worse these days because a lot of young people spend too much time indoors on their phones and consoles and don’t know how to make friends IRL. I agree but men still struggled with women even before the movie Marty came out In 1955 and that's about a man who couldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:19 PM
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Yes it was because you could have phrased it better and you are in agreement with the billboard. The post is literally a change my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:14 PM
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I don't believe this is true at all. Men have been getting friendzoned since the end of time. Most men do know how to befriend women. I'd argue that the overwhelming majority of women's friends that you will see in school are usually boys. Now we can get into the weeds of boys being friends with a girl because he likes her but at the same time that doesn't mean that the guys still don't value them as friends If anything I'd argue that Males NEED to pushed into very SOCIAL settings at a very youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:14 PM
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Whore is not a compliment. This is a male privilege not afforded to women in society. I'd argue that's one of the few double standards that men actually have compared to the many double standards that work in many women's favor. And it's not much of a excellent double standard when the overwhelming majority of men cannot be whores at least not without paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:11 PM
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I know where you got the idea that is not hard to see. I'm saying regardless of the title the idea in itself is insanely stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:09 PM
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I think getting sex can be free and you can pay for it but sex isn't hard to get in the era of sexual freedom. There are ppl willing all over. For women I agree but for men I'd heavily disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:08 PM
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Well I guess the question would be how many men do you know that is like your husband? If a guy isn’t naturally a ladies man, I would think that it’d be pretty difficult. Okay so how many men do you know that are natural ladies men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:07 PM
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Well then you don't have to engage or answer then. If it's something you want to ignore it then by all means
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:06 PM
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I don't believe it's hard to really get sex in this day and age with tinder, hook up culture and well prostitutes. Just depends on if you want to pay to play or your standards etc. So you're definition of getting sex is just paying for it? Because technically women can do that too. I don't think that's what most men want to do though they want to have sex with women who want to have sex with them I think it depends on your definition. Like a dude who sleeps with random women all the time or has …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:05 PM
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I did see it and it's still bogus and dumb. The entire point of the billboards is to encouragement to approach when an actuality rejection is still not hot so this post is still a nothing Burger. I would engage it if it was a good conversation but it's so unbelievably asinine and obvious that it just feels insulting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:04 PM
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I probably worded that wrong. I meant a guy who can get many women and not just find a partner if you wait long enough that he likes. Because by that logic then every guy's ladies man because they'll eventually find a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:03 PM
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Absolutely not. A man can simply get a woman he likes if he waits long enough. I'm saying a guy who is light and attracted to by many women he comes across
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:55 PM
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You're pathetic for assuming that any man who values his ego in time is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:48 PM
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I think you purposely phrased this change my mind to something that sounds insane so you'd get views Rejection is hot doesn't even make sense even by your own logic in your own post. You could argue that woman respect men who approach and get rejected more than men who endlessly swipe online but that is not saying much. This is a downright nothing Burger of a post
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:48 PM
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I'm not a famous celebrity or a basketball player
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:45 PM
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Me personally or men in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:21 PM
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This virgin thing doesn’t make no sense to me at all. But again, I admit I am not a man. For alot of reasons. But first I wanna preface this by saying studies support men wanting at least somewhat experienced women. Not virgins. So although many men will CLAIM they want super inexperienced girls the majority of men don't fully follow this. Or it could be that most virgin women don't really make it easy on men First and foremost. Cleanliness. Since no other guy hit it You assume she's pure which …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:05 PM
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Well I don't usually know exactly what I want so seeing where it goes is the proper terms I use. Saying I just want sex doesn't work anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:47 PM
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Well me personally I wouldn't act as such if somebody is in my life and they are officially part of it then I won't hold it against them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:18 AM
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Imma guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:59 PM
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Yeah I get it most people desire more than just sick they want to emotional connection my problem is I have some dark demons and the reality is I know that most women are not the type you should vent to about your dark demons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:58 PM
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It depends on what you mean by a friend like give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:57 PM
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I use those lol. What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:56 PM
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Yeah the ones they are already madly in love with already. Most guys don't have that luxury
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:55 PM
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I don't think it's that much of a reason to be concerned about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:26 PM
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They will usually say the guy will just focus on someone else, he will usually just stop talking her from text, or hell just be ion know if I'm the right guy. I think women HEAVILY exaggerate how cruel men are when they make the first move. Men can be overly cruel in breakups or talking stages but so are women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:26 PM
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I find it really off -putting when they say things like 'i can't stop thinking about you' or 'i think about you all of the time'. Its makes me think they don't have a life. Which is why even if I actually feel in love I never tell her that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:23 PM
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I personally don't get too deep with my personal because alot of women don't wanna hear it or respect it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:22 PM
2

I don't use dating apps. I'm not a sucker 😭.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:22 PM
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She's trying to imply that the reason most women don't approach is because men reject woman in a cruel way and openly talk bad about Their appearance. Which I think that take is utterly insane
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:54 PM
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men are overwhelmingly cruel when they reject women. Men also seem much more inclined to go out of their way to vocalize their judgements of women's' appearance. I don't know what world you are living in that is the exact opposite of the one I live in because most guys are very respectful when they reject women and don't go out of their way to openly bash your woman's appearance The only ones I know that will openly do that are usually the heavy redfield guys who are reacting to videos on YouTub…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:54 PM
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Wym
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:25 PM
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Nah. I won't say I'm looking for either. I'll just play by ear
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:25 PM
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Well obviously I figured it out that we're not compatible yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:46 PM
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I heavily disagree with you women of all statues and a virgin ones that sought after it's just that most of those women are extremely picky more so than women already are so the majority of guys will go for three or four because they are simply easier to deal with and most guys can get more experience with three or fours and dating a virgin girl mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:45 PM
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just collectively kept their mouths shut when it came to who or what they found unattractive, You honestly think that's the reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:41 PM
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Yeah pushy men are creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:40 PM
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Right now. I want the promiscuous and high sex energy women because that's what I am as a guy I don't mind virgin low count women even though they are rare but they are likely not gonna like me or just waste my time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:55 AM
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Can you give me examples of guys using vague language?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:53 AM
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I do agree with this sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:13 AM
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The fear of opening up to men about this stuff often makes forming a deep bond with them feel impossible since sometimes they aren't there to listen and understand but there to defend and argue with you How often do you have men who you open up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:54 AM
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Yes but generally they are harder to come by
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:09 AM

Nah. That's all her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:01 AM
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I think you are missing the point. The hot guy that is moral and also has a desire to want to date most average women who desire him is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:00 AM
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Women are just as likely to use low effort dms
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:59 AM
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But you already know alot of women are not into cold approach unless the guy is HOT
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:59 AM

Because she's a woman. It has more to do with her believing most men are trash, predatory, and selfish. Also not caring about men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:57 AM
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Are you saying as a friend or as a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:55 AM
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When did I blame sexism sweety? men's willful incompetency. Willful huh? So anytime a person isn't good at anything it's all because of their free will?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:56 PM
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Lilith is kinda know for having insanely neurotic takes guys Yeah I can agree that you can't expect people to like you with no social skills but id argue that's not what most specifically men do. They know how hard it is to work on those skills unless they learned it growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:55 PM
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Excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses. Lady please refrain from being willfully obtuse. You sound painfully silly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:54 PM
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That still wouldn't defeat the fact that Most Attractive people are usually above average to great at socializing because even when they are wrong they are right. So an attractive person knows how to express themselves in a socially savvy and fun way. Physically attractive people with poor social skills are not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:52 PM

Well that's insanely hard to do as well. You gotta have game and not look rehearsed. Which is very hard to do as well
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:11 PM
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I'm glad you're at least consistent. The reason I asked because I think a lot of women are full of shit. They are giving reasons that are mostly excuses than anything. I'm fine if they don't wanna do it. Because most people avoid making the first move because most people don't like rejection. But I wouldn't be annoyed if they were honest and said they prefer if the man did the work or they don't like rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:36 PM
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He wants to meet a pretty gf. But doesn't wanna have to make the first move?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:29 PM
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I agree. I know a guy who doesn't approach women at all or shoot his shot. He thinks women will always use him for his money and only want attention so he avoids it. What would be your advice to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:24 PM
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That's YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:19 PM
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Lemme ask a question. Should women in general approach men and make the first moves on a consistent basis? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:18 PM
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What I said: collective aggregate behavior What you pissily responded about: all men 😡😠😡 What percentage of men do you think are doing this? So, sure. Not every single one. Just like.... 95% 🤣 No. Alot more than that. I usually delete them because eventually they'll spam to an absurd degree and the notifications are exhausting You certainly can't deny this is your ax to grind though. There's also an interesting post about how men shouldn't be honest about their intentions, which I find utterly f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:17 PM
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Not how gaslighting works. They believe themselves to be the prize and are saying so. Gaslighting would require that they don't believe that and are saying so to manipulate you and replace your reality. Otherwise all marketing would be gaslighting. They believe it's your job to approach them, they're allowed to dictate what they think, doesn't mean you have to listen. You can Gaslight and be delusional about something. Like if I feel like I'm better than you then it would perfect sense to justif…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:52 PM
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You deleted a lot more than just the comment was my point. Either way point still stands Cuz gaslighting is trying to manipulate someone into questioning their own sanity/reality. They aren't trying to do that. They aren't saying you have to do this, they're saying they only interact with men who do by default because they ain't doing it. It's like me saying I only teach kids that come to my classroom...like yeah, cuz I ain't going out to wrangle kids or teach in a different classroom. No gaslig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:04 PM

Approach or make the first move? For the same reasons alot of guys don't. Usually a combination of fear and ego. They feel it's not their job and they'll stick behind that because they don't wanna put in that much effort to get partners and would rather a guy have to stick his neck out than her doing it Everytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:40 PM

Okay, are you expecting women to approach you? No Or just men they find attractive in general? That would be nice but I don't expect women to do this Bc I’d argue women do approach the women they find attractive enough to warrant that kind of approach from them, no? Some yes but the overwhelming majority don't. It's rare to see
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:00 PM
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Regardless. They still usually don't like chasing. They tolerate it. They don't actually like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:52 PM
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I TRULY get that. But just because YOU might not wanna date him or get to know him doesn't mean that plenty of other women don't. And they do. If I get the sense that this man is passive/not assertive, it kills any existing attraction. Id argue even if that's the case with you(I don't truly believe you're being honest here) Most women still would be still attracted depending on HOW attractive the guy actually is. Yes do women cynical when guys THEY like don't approach? Sure. But not all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:51 PM
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I don't approach men because I've never seen a man who was good looking enough to make me want to. HONESTY This is what I'm a fan of
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:10 PM
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There’s no point in me asking. You just want beautiful women to ask you out. And YOU just want attractive men to ask you out I’m really not going to enjoy a sexual encounter with someone I don’t know. So why would I cold approach someone. I don’t know them. Because cold approach is not exclusive to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:09 PM
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They are being dishonest about the reasons is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:07 PM
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I could care less if you liked my comment. I deleted it because it didn't qualify for debate You didn't really prove this was gaslighting nor indeed even incorrect. Just that it is perhaps a unsavory mindset with which to approach finding love. I do love that you threw in the line about cooking meals and having children, I guess a tiger can't change its stripes entirely. Pro-tip, the gendered role which mirrors this in women isn't asking for a date, it's being a provider and protector. Just thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:05 PM
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Either way that's a copout because how most people don't meet their partners through cold Approach and through friends
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:56 PM
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No one is forcing you to approach women if you don’t want to. This sub rails against feminism but it’s the feminist women that are more likely to make the first move and go 50-50 with a guy. I agree. And my post was not promoting that I didn't wanna do it Personally, I’m more traditional and wouldn’t be attracted to a man that didn’t ask me out first. Why would I put effort towards something I’m not interested in? Id argue you wasn't that physically attracted to him if that was the case. You cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:54 PM
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This post is confusing to me because you’re limiting this whole concept of approaching to like cold approaching it seems? Like being approached by a stranger? I had zero interest in doing that and it was always awkward when someone did that to me so, no. I don’t know where you’re getting some sort of premise here that women by and large even want men to be doing that. I don't have to listen to women saying they don't like this because I know for a fact that they do like this when it comes to a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:51 PM
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I don't plan to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:45 PM
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It's hard to genuinely believe because if we're talking about Cold approaching the overwhelming majority of men don't do it. And most couples still meet without them needing to So I'm not here tryna call you a liar or anything but when you say things like I don't find men I have to approach attractive it's like.... I highly doubt you were all that attracted to him before he said anything to you. Or at least not physically attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:45 PM

Only when you stay free Prince. My handsome devil of a man you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:40 PM

I agree. No one is asking. The post is not about me EXPECTING women to approach. I'm saying the reasons alot of women give online are lazy and gaslighty. Alot of women here at least are alot more honest
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:40 PM
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No. He said it right the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:38 PM
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I hope you're being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:38 PM
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I won’t approach men for the sole reason I literally don’t have to. See? I'm more a fan of that reason then the BS ones I hear women say in my post. At least it's more honest
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:37 PM

Game is basically a combination of your personality wit, smoothness, and social skills. Let's make it simple. One guy can approach a girl give boring conversation, not make her laugh, ask for her number and get nothing. Another guy can come in make her laugh, make her feel heard, learn about her personally, tease her, flirt with her, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:34 PM
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Irrelevant to our behavior and our risks/benefits, pros/cons calculus Which, unfortunately for you, isn't just about your individual mindset, but the collective aggregate behavior of men You know all men? You approached all of them? How can you say definitively that all men act this way? Every single post you have ever made on this sub is to complain about women not approaching men; why are men expected to approach women; and insulting women for the reasons we give for not approaching men. And I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:14 AM
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Oh, there are definitely some women that think that way but I don’t think it’s a mindset that all women share. As for men bending over backwards to please women, women are taught to be wary of men who go out of their way to please her because we’re taught that men will fake romantic interest for sex. (Of course despite being told this we all still want to believe we are so special to the guy that he would never actually lie about how he feels. 🤦‍♀️) Not all the overwhelming majority. And despite…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:06 AM
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Being a match maker is NOT approaching. Are you seriously tryna die on this hill?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:19 AM
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Its not rare at all Definitely rare. It's very common for women to OVERestimate how much effort women are actively putting into the courting phase. I've match made two marriages myself, not rare at all. Good for you. That's you playing match maker not making the first move on a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:18 AM

Bruh... First off not true at all. Especially if we are talking about attractive women Second again missing the point. The point is that a man is not automatically trying to use a woman for sex just because she approached or hit on him first
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:16 AM
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I mean is your issue with me that I am also claiming that I am taking unnecessary risk by approaching and that’s why I don’t want to do it anymore? At the heart of what I’m saying is “I get good results by not approaching and bad results by approaching so I don’t approach anymore.” It’s not an effort thing. If approaching had worked for me I’d be here telling every woman to approach! It didn’t so I am explaining why it didn’t and it’s because it introduced men into my dating pool who weren’t com…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:15 AM
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Not to challenge every little concern from you when I clearly explained it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:06 AM
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Nah. I've stated my reasons in my post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:55 AM
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First point: Some women are like that. I’d say the percentage of women who are like that is far far far smaller than the percentage of men who are as I’ve described. If that’s enough to dissuade you from approaching then that’s fine with me. I don’t really care if men on mass approach or not. Hell men rarely approach nowadays especially the sort of introvert/nerdy men I like. That’s how I know they must really want me if they did lol. But you just highlighted why what you said is problematic. Fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:51 AM
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The prize = I think this mindset is something that has been socialized into women. A lot of women genuinely do have low self confidence and this is just a “fake jt til you make it” mentality. Men can also view themselves as a prize and they really should. Confidence is incredibly attractive to many women. See I will have push back here. I think women genuinely do think this. Like why would they not think this men been halfway backwards to satisfy women that they don't even really know so why wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:37 AM
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That's not the point he was making. He's not talking about YOU in particular. But in general
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:32 AM
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Apparently it is now. I literally tried to say earlier that being proactive is not exclusive to males
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:28 AM
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i don't play, and i don't even like it football. you could say it's skill issues but it won't matter to me since i don't like it nor play it, i'll just agree i suck at it but i don't care. women probably feel the same way about approaching. I agreee with you. I can still call out those women for her weak claims as to the reasons she's not playing. Because playing is not required but at least id respect more women more if they simply said they don't wanna put in the work yes i agree but women do …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:25 AM
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1 — I believe basically any man will do this or some version of this that is non-optimal for me. When the prospect of sex/a relationship is on the table for men they are inclined to take it given how hard the dating world is for them. It’s smart for them to take it! I would encourage men to if they get the chance! So if I told you that women shouldn't be approached because they are all attention seeking freeloaders who wanna use you for a meal ticket that's totally justified right? Only the last…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:22 AM
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Not nearly enough tho. It's still very rare
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:16 AM
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They are mostly going to go off who they like physically. Or who they've gotten acquainted with usually to get a decent form of his personality
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:46 AM
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I've already addressed this in my post. First of all it's not all men that do this. Some men do this but there are a lot of men that won't automatically default to this. So should you not Approach at all just for the simple fact that you think that some men will do this? Also you are not obligated to sleep with him just because that's only what he sees you as
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:43 AM
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Okay not literally everyone but the overwhelming majority ofpeople don't like chasing It already implies that the person doesn't like them that much to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:42 AM
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I don’t know why you’re stuck on this topic. I wanted to call out the reasons Do you realistically think women approaching in the ways men do would change men’s dating prospects ? Yes. Absolutely. Not in a way where its such a dramatic change but enough to make more relationships happen Who do you think women would be approaching if they were going to go out of their way to do so? Probably the very physically attractive ones. And I don't mind if they wanna do that. It's still a win win because b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:41 AM
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I'm not doing a good job right now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:37 AM
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They play normal every playthrough. Don't ever pick hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:33 AM
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They never will. They'll continue to gaslight you into thinking approaching is ONLY a man's job And anything out of that realm is propositions themselves as easy lays
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:25 AM
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It's amazing that a lot of people can just brush it off to clickbait videos what an actuality there are genuinely a lot of women even on Reddit that will make very long post about how they are not getting approach and they have to question whether or not they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:19 AM

Yes. But will they? No. Too chicken feces and of course they can hide behind their "justifications"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:14 AM
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We don't care if you don't like it. We don't care if you "believe our reasons." You can make a dozen more variations on this theme (and undoubtedly will) and you're never going to be doing more than screaming into the void. I don't care either. And I still don't believe them Whatever feelings you have about this are completely irrelevant and meaningless to us. They do not change our risk/benefit analysis. They do not change the hearts and minds of your fellow men who insist they "have to take wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:07 AM

"we don't care" "Read my long winded post even though we don't care about yours" 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:59 PM
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you're thinking about this from a male pov, women don't think of approaches or dates like a score or success, that's a male mindset. Well that sounds like a skill issue. I could care less if it's a male mindset. If a mindset helps you out in life by being more proactive than you should follow it I should not have to be able to give them Grace for being lazy just because they're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:56 PM

Well looks like....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:53 PM

Then why do you start with we don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:50 PM
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most of these are baits for clicks. I don't agree. There are plenty of women who tell me this in real life as well there is no shortage of guys approaching, not really. I don't agree there bud. Most men don't approach in general but it seems to be a shortage of men approaching in venues the thing is "approach" is a very broad term. women don't cold approach, i mean if they do it's pretty rare. and a lot of women don't like men cold approaching them and it highly depend on the venue. I agree. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:47 PM
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EXACTLY. Women on the internet try so UNBELIEVABLY hard to paint the narrative that they are propositioning themselves as prostitutes for approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:45 PM

We don't care if you don't like it Good to know I don't have to read the rest then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:43 PM
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Yeah had to make edits
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:43 PM

When women know a guy and get a crush on him, they certainly do approach. Not really. Still rare. Unless the guy is insanely attractive in their eyes. And even then You are asking women to walk up to complete strangers and ask them out. I am asking why would a woman do this? Most women don't like it when random men proposition them, why would they do that? Ok lemme ask a question. Why should men do it? Do you want women to walk down the street and say free sex for anyone that wants it? So you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:43 PM
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The reality is most men need to learn game to REALLY be good with women. And not just surface level like they have money, or just tall. But it's INSANELY hard to develop personality and game UNLESS you were a natural growing up. But if you weren't....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:19 PM
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Which is why you should usually take dating advice from success men instead
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:18 PM
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Yes but even Anecdotally you'll still hear a lot of the same stories. Alot of guys being forced to make the force move, approach, force the conversation, male the conversation, ask out of dates, trying to make jokes, learn about her, wtcy Once you heard a few you heard em mostly all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:36 PM
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I'm not talking to you obviously bro. I meant OP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:34 PM
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How old are you? It happens because women have more options than men so they have the leverage of sitting back and letting you do all the work because the guy is always gonna have to because he has less options
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:24 PM
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OP, can you maybe give an example? Women will literally say guys put no effort into going out, talking to women, approaching women, planning dates ,etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:49 PM
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Please stop letting this stuff bother you. No
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:48 PM
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You got it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:47 PM
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Just like Im allowed to make fun of them for it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:47 PM
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So now you look like an asshole and they can state that their hatred of you is justified. They are gonna do that anyway. Might as well have fun with it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:44 PM
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Romantic options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:04 AM
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Say what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:01 AM
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Because it is in alot of ways It's basically a routine to entertain the person In front of you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:59 PM
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They don't gatekeeper marriage and relationship. They just got in one not the same equivalence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:58 PM
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Because guys just won't date each other if they're so tired of women. So by your logic women should also date women. We'll start dating men if y'all start dating women Didn't ask but ok Women shouldn't in most cases be allowed to accuse men of being lazy in the dating climate. That is your title. You said most cases, not 'alot of cases'. Yes in most cases Guys can't even hold a conversation in the first date. You cannot complain about the plight of men where they self sabotage. Because we have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:58 PM
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So you even promote men being lazy, No. Don't promote. I admit there are lazy men but you dont want men to be called out for being lazy. No. All call outs aren't worthy of responding or are in bad faith. Im mostly talking about the women who complain heavily about lack of efforts on men parts when women don't put in enough effort either in the courting phase If you're trying to date women, disregarding women's feelings when it comes to dating makes absolutely no sense. I didn't say disregard the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:21 PM
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No. I said it right the first time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:18 PM
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That means he can’t make it a relationship requirement. No it doesn't. At all What does that even mean? So now women can’t even criticize self sabotage because you guys are so jealous of women? I'm so sick of women being hella braindead at points I already made and spinning it to something else. Once again. It's rich if you're doing something most guys are doing that most women will never do I’m saying even the lazy guys feel this way with the below minimum effort they think they should put it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:57 PM
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No. It's not. Like at all. The point is they are complaining about effort that they will never put in. Wrong analogy on your half
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:54 PM
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(And yeah, women being as horny as men is a big nonsensical lie best debunked, perhaps, by the homosexual couples.) I agree No symmetry (women don't to prove anything), no fairness. Huh? Wym
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:47 PM
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I know how supply and demand works. I'm saying it's rich coming from them. It's like a rich person with a rich dad claiming that poor people don't put in enough work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:46 PM
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I'm straight. I like companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:45 PM
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Alot of men are even lazy in the dating phase, which seems to be a reoccurring problem with women when they date. This is especially very noticeable because guys are the ones that keep completing about how hard harder it is to date. Well, you can’t expect sympathy would you make it hard to date you. Not saying you're wrong but that is rich coming from most women since their job is actively almost no-work at all But that’s only if the woman has sex with them by date three at the latest. Their rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:44 PM
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Men control access to relationships & marriage. No. They don't. Attractive men do. Which is nowhere near the majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:16 PM
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Can they really complain when women are extremely lazy in the courtship phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:15 PM
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The discussion wasn't just talking about sex but getting relationship partners in general. I agree that it makes sense for women to look for more proof a good mate that's fine. Lambasting those men for a big lack of effort is fine but in Alot of ways it sounds hella rich to men who actively have to do more work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:15 PM
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I'm aware that most guys can't win but I just think it's rich when women complain about lack of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:12 PM
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Ok fair
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:11 PM
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This is definitely one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:57 PM
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When half of young men have never asked a woman out, yes, we can say that Women don't either so you have no ground to stand on. You guys are bigger cowards then us When men won’t commit or put a label on it, yes, we can say that Most women are in relationships so it's not true When men refuse to socialize and talk to people and have no friends, yes, we can say that Women do the exact same thing to almost higher degree but they are forced to because men have to approach so nah
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:09 PM
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Make fun of them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:08 PM
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Its the lack of effort many men put in when women are spending hundreds and a lot of time to look pretty, If makeup was acceptable then men will out of times would use it women are usually more engaging conversationalists whereas a lot of men are dry and lack any sort of substance. They are constantly getting approached by men so it's no secret of why they are slightly better conversationalist. And they are not much better than you're making out to be it's just that they usually are not the ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:07 PM
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Why do y'all keep going back to just sexual options. I'm referring to actually getting Roman female partners in general
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:03 PM
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Guys here just admit men will intentionally not hold a conversation on a date instead of just not going on the date and just pursue women they actually like. This is confusing what the hell are you talking about? You're going to have to rephrase that because it doesn't really make sense Also, guys here constantly complain about relationships while not admitting they just want hookups. Some do some don't. Not all men are the same and id argue most men who complain about hookups also want relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:02 PM
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Be allowed?? Women have the right to be assholes if they want to be, and they can deal with the natural consequences of that And I am that consequence What the fuck are you talking about “shouldn’t be allowed”??? You shouldn’t be allowed to post dumb questions No. I shouldn't be allowed to read dumb ass answers like yours
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:00 PM
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What's wrong with that? Don't you fantasize a better tomorrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:59 AM
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Most people don't have the options you do man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:57 AM
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Never said that I expect it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:43 AM
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I agree but it's sounds insanely rich coming from most women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:27 AM
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Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:24 AM
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That wasn't what I was confused about. I know where the game stands. But I can have a conversation about why the game is crappy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:24 AM
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Some of it they are blind to. I don't think they are mostly looking to exploit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:23 AM
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Their always blind to their privileges
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:16 AM
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I can like someone and not be driven to spam my pussy at them. Never said you did That's a male mindset. No I recently had a notable exchange with a guy who was completely unable to relate to the idea of finding someone attractive and that not somehow result in me pursuing him Cool beans. What that gotta do with the convo? Virtually every sexually dimorphic mammal has a male pursuer and female chooser. You repeatedly insisting on how irrelevant biology should be to our sexuality is just scientif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:14 AM

Stop wasting my time with this unscientific garbage you call an argument Block men then you obtuse mongrel. If you ain't gonna debate then why the hell are you even here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:11 AM
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Sometimes. Depending on my mood
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:10 AM

Yes, men have spontaneous sexuality and women have responsive Bullshit. You the sexually is irrelevant. You approach because of being proactive if you like someone not because of specific sexuality types Thanks for agreeing that "cowardice" is irrelevant I didn't you can't read
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:59 AM
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Women for the most part do not care if human civilization dies off because men aren't approaching them. No it's because they are cowards and scared
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:58 AM
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No. They actually are cowards. And yes I've been to clubs they still don't approach they stare
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:57 AM
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That has nothing to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:13 PM
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One mechanism of control women have is to never ever approach a man And that's your excuse for being lazy A vetting system is to only engage with the guys who are interested enough to approach us The overwhelming majority of men don't approach and they still get girlfriends so your theory is invalid Men lie to get laid all the time, they claim to want a relationship, claim to love us when they don't. Yep. Doesn't mean you have to date them or is that another excuse not approach? Sounds like it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:55 PM
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Key wordS.... YOU KNOW
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:40 PM
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You know very little about women Know more than enough but pretend you have it all figured out All no. Most yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:39 PM
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In their actions and words, the majority of men would seem to disagree with you. We are on the receiving end of this. It doesn't MATTER what they believe. They can't control your life choices. YOU are in control. I can't believe I have to explain something so trivial How the hell are we supposed to know ahead of time, who wants to just use us?! You prioritize the men that aren't and don't give the ones that do anytime
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:23 PM
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Yes it is. You are being disingenuous as hell. If it doesn't work that way for you then just say that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:07 PM
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Women are NOT afraid to approach WRONG AS FUCK Just because your son gets approached a lot does NOT mean that women aren't afraid of approaching. That just means he is attractive enough for a decent number of women to shoot their shot. IE NEWSFLASH!! Most men don't approach women that often in non public venue settings. Usually at bars or clubs. And most very attractive women are getting approached even if the majority of the time they are not getting approached. That just means more people than…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:17 PM
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You do not speak for ALL women. Alot of women do find men strangers attractive...granted if they are physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:09 AM
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They are attracted to strangers. Maybe he's their type or maybe he's Physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:00 PM
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Women Do approach men they really like. That's why having a social group and being active in your community gets you introduced to women that can have the opportunity to get yo know you enough to form a opinion of you. Id argue not enough do. Do you want women to just approach strangers? Not going to happen. Yeah that too. But like I said. The why is fear
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:45 PM
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I already do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:56 AM
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Men and women don't like being put on the spot men do it because they are aware they don't have the luxury to act is if they have as many options
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:55 AM
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Nope. Not scared. Just not interested in approaching someone because they look nice. Nah. They are scared to admit it Women will initiate with people they know. Not true at all. I follow a guy who gets approached all the time and the women don't know him If you're attractive enough then you will get approached
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:51 AM
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Cold approaching doesn't align with female sexuality. It has nothing to do with "fear" Neither does it for men You cold approach to be proactive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:50 AM
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Then she better be fully traditional on her end as well. But the reality is most women don't follow those super HEAVY traditional roles on their end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:50 AM
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That's a cop out. A woman is not obligated to have sex with a man just because he only sees you as a sexual option. Also some men are like this and some aren't. So women should approach the ones that aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:49 AM
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Sorry I like you a lot but I gotta put you on hold to courageously ask some other dudes out for my gender equality quota." I'm sure a man would love to hear that. That's exaggerating. No they can just approach the men they really like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:46 AM
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Women will never cold approach in large quantities. I know. They are scared of that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:19 AM
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If you get enough attention of course alot of women won't have any desire to approach. Hell most guys don't have any desire to approach. They approach because who in front of them makes an impression from afar. Every woman around her has a few moments in her life where she will see a dude from afar and ask herself if it's worth it to approach and they usually don't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:17 AM
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That’s cool, I don’t really care because that’s a separate conversation. Stay on topic! No it's not. It's relative Claiming women are cowards for not doing something that isn’t really socially normal or expected is stupid lol No it isn't. Because they are biggest pioneers for changing the society because of super heavy patriarchal norms Treating women like equals, them getting good career jobs, and women being in the military at one point wasn't normal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:07 AM
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It has very little to do with getting laid actually. I'm not talking about a I'm general thing of women's sexual level on a regular basis. You are true that a man is far more likely to have a need to have sex than a woman on a regular basis But I'm saying in certain moments where women indeed are attracted to certain men they don't make the first move alot of the times regardless. They chicken out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:02 AM
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Yes but again like I said. There a lot of men who are in favor of progression that makes both sides easier like women making more of the first moves, or going dutch, or making themselves more open to being approached but women are not in favor of those
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:59 AM
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There a little bit more nuance to this. So yes their is cultural and social aspect to this. I'm mostly referring to American women here. Most women don't make the first move because it's heavily emphasized and trained for them to think courting or pursuing is always the man's job But ultimately even when they have to change to defy gender roles In way of progression they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:49 AM
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So date women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:42 AM
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Spread the word, ladies, get out there and ask for what you want, men are finally ready for it, so why not? They aren't going to do that If this was phrased "because they are scared and they don't really have to, anyway" then I'd say it is probably correct. This is true I'll give you !Delta! On that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:41 AM
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No. Cowards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:40 AM
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Girls like you are INSANELY rare because I approach women and I know the OVERWHELMING majority of women don't usually like dating younger
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:40 AM
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Parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:39 AM

They don't like regular men getting the benefits of regular women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:38 AM
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True to a certain extent. They have far more options than guys but a big complaint is that they can only pick the guys that make the first moves and probably 95 percent of them they don't even like from their first impression
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:38 AM
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Why the fuck are women expected to just take that and respond like angels? Ok so what about the openly misandrist women who speak down on men any chance they get?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:54 PM
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What the fuck happened to the red pill. Seriously back in my day when guys were actually getting good use out of it there was none of this bitching and whining constantly about woman. You don't have to be red pill to complain about women. Dating for men is still FAR HARDER than dating as a man. And why the FUCK would discussing a hypothetical be bitching and whining? Just because theoretically woman have more options on a dating app doesn’t mean they are actually into those guys. Dudes are just …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:33 PM
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Tate is a hero for them for saying the truth many needed to hear. Congrats women. I genuinely thought you were being sarcastic but it doesn't seem you are. As a guy who was heavy into Red Pill... Tate was a complete joke from the jump. The only reason he got more famous than most was because he unapologetically rage baited. He was the Stephen A Smith of Red Pill. Just said a whole lot of nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:21 PM
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That you tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:18 AM
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I guess I'm the weirdo who likes being the one to approach 🤷🏻‍♀️ I knew this wasn't the typical way things are done, but until reading this comment section I didn't realize how uncommon it is It's extremely uncommon. Especially cold approach And even still, I've never approached a total stranger in the wild! Not because of fear (I mean, the sting of rejection isn't as bad from a stranger as it is from someone you know), but because I'm just not attracted to strangers. I need to know something ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:10 AM
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LOCK HIS ASS UP
/r/seduction23/12/25 11:00 PM
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He's an acquaintance in what way? Is he a coworker? And so you know if he likes you or not?
/r/seduction20/12/25 04:10 AM
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I think overall men have it worse because they get nothing... But bots of course
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:08 AM
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Ehhh... Depends on what you mean. Because men don't get likes at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:00 AM
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Yep. Women care a lot about things other than looks and dating apps don't reveal those qualities. I wouldn't say that is the reason they stay away. They stay away Because they don't like most of the options
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:00 AM
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It's a lot more easier to hookup/have a relationships when you talk to people in real life compared to dating apps. I wouldn't say a full reflection of reality. But as you said in your post it is very much a decent reflection because a lot of people do use dating apps. The reality is. Most women don't use dating apps as much because they can always get results without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:37 PM
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I'll put it like this. It's like men itself. Do a lot of women like men in general? No. But they still find men to date. 20 year olds often times don't seek out the 40+ year old men but a lot of the times the 30+ or 40+ year old guy make the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:50 PM
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most women date and marry within 2-5 years of their age. you can look that up to verify. in countries where women have the most liberty and economic freedom age gap relationships are less. this would show that when women aren't reliant on gold digging for resources in a society they go for men they are attracted to which is their own age. Listen most of what you are saying is true. I'm not denying what the studies are saying. The issue is that we are not drawing 100 percent the same conclusions.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:22 PM
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Or he's not below average because he has an attractive personality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:08 PM
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I didn't say I did. I'm saying she's not accurately rating her males friends
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:07 PM
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Your anecdotes or mine? And how can you can you statistically prove that women aren't into older men? Because they don't date them long term? I explained the obvious reasons why those relationships usually don't work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:55 PM
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for the personality? damn, is having a nice personality enough to be above average? Yes. It absolutely is. Look at comedians. Do most look insanely good or above average? No. They get laid even before they get rich because they are the life of the party and can make people laugh. You think people like Danny Devito wasn't getting laid on the regular with actual hot women before he got really famous? Or better yet just look at any guy who has an very attractive personality who doesn't look that go…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:18 PM
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So you literally just explained it. He's not below average
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:05 PM
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If this were the case, then there would be a lot more marriages and relationships with an age gap of 10 or more years, but there aren't. The problem there is that most men don't marry women that are that big an age gap unless he's like high commodity. They prefer long term partners that are more their age. They still like to date younger just not longer term. Also older vs younger usually doesn't work out because most older men have established families at that point which a girl doesn't like fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:18 PM
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just recently, a below average friend of my bf scored two of my hottest friends Yeah you're not hanging around below average men 😭🤣😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:48 PM
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For a man to be considered a top 20% man all he needs is to not be hideous, not be too fat, have a job, support himself, have a running car, have emotional intelligence, and not be a criminal/abuser. The bar is actually in hell. No. You spent WAY too much time on Tik Tok. 😭🤣😭. If this was the case then incels wouldn't even be that common and red pill wouldn't really need to exist. There are plenty of men that have all these things and still struggle immensely with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:42 PM
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Maybe you hang around above average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:39 PM
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Some men want to claim that we're equally attracted to a much wider range of women than women are attracted to men. For the most part we're not. Not equally. Where do you get that idea? Men are attracted to a further array of women than women are men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:37 PM

Dude, just no 😭😄😄 That's funny how men want to win in power play but can't and say anything, looks ridiculous. Power play? You got me all confused love. That's just how I say hello 😭🤣🤣 Where you from btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:53 PM
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Which is why most younger women are looking to have sex with younger men rather than relationships. Ehhh even then not that common. Maybe for men in their 30s and women who are older than that. But not for men in their 20s No, no they don't Yes they do. Most of the highest voted attractive men are usually older men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:40 PM

Good girl. Now get on all fours and crawl to me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:35 PM
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I get what you're saying but I don't think all the stats are necessary. Most women do prefer older men. Maybe not but wide gaps but they still prefer it Most younger men are not desired by women unless those women are usually younger than those men desires. They typically desire older men Are older men always out together? No. But they are more likely to be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:27 PM
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Relevance?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:25 PM
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No just based on the women Ive seen and met.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:25 PM
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Well if you go on most other male dominated spaces you kinda still see alot of lonely men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:11 PM
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Yeah some women don't like it but from what I've seen. Most women do. I've noticed that women will just take comfort almost Everytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:52 PM
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