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Their definition of conservative is incel
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 02:03 AM
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i think it means a lot if the guy is selling drugs or illegal guns for a living, i don't think any good woman is comfortable to take him to meet their family even if he's rich. money is not everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:10 AM
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a combination of both, the world is not just black and white. a rich drug lord is not gonna score on a high value girl. only gold diggers are chasing after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:06 AM
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i'm talking about Chris vs random dude not Chris vs his younger self.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:10 AM
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If i were a young woman i'd take 40 yrs old Chris over an average 20 yrs old guy anyday. Are you kidding ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:20 AM
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I think there's a difference between a 21-23 years old newly grad from college and a 25-28 years old mature. If Chris Evans was preying upon college girls, that would feel very wrong even tho he's 10/10 and rich af. But as long as the woman is at a working age, that's fine for me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:11 AM
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I'll never defend Al Pacino becoming a dad again at 70s. That's not illegal but surely it looks creepy as hell. But 40 ?? Since when 40s is considered a retirement age ?? omg i just googled Al Pacino is actually 83.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:00 AM
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I think there's a huge difference between dating teens and mature 25 yrs old. It still feels kinda uneasy for me knowing Al Pacino will have a kid when he's 70 something. But 40 ?? Come on, give me a break. Since when 40 is considered that old ? Even Bill Gates was married when he's 40 and he had been a billionaire for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:55 AM
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This means you only care about looks not age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:38 AM
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As a guy in my 30s. No i don't think 40 is considered 'old' this day. Look at the guy like Ryan Gosling, Bradley Cooper, Chris Evans, don't you think they can date women in their 20s ? Actually Chris just married with a 25-26 yrs old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:33 AM
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Chris Evans is almost middle-aged. He just married at 25 yrs old woman. I think they're perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:28 AM
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the same group who say they prefer getting stuck with a bear to a human male. they just live in their own sphere. they have never seen any bear irl or realized that human life is so fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:32 AM
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Man, humans die so easily. Just one stab of knife in your throat and you're gone, no ambulance can help you in time. Why do they expect strangers to save them ? i don't understand. Sure people will call the cops, send messages and ask their friends to call for help etc. as long as they can stay safe with their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:27 AM
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lol no the reason why you are safe in public places because the police will step in not some random white knights
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:33 AM
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Most sexless marriages are from women but sometimes it's because they're busy taking care of house chores, children and working outside. They are not in a mood to have sex. Men need to treat their couples well in order to have good sex lives. But saying that Madonna/wh*re complex is the reason behind sexless marriages like OP is a joke. People from both sexes will be forever losers if they take any post from this sub seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:45 AM
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Calling yourself as an alpha = red flag Nobody gives a shit about alpha in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:34 AM
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It's quality over quantity my dude Do you think those Ivy league kids want to fuck blue collar people even if they have a chance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:58 AM
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Bill Gates who is a stereotypical nerd fucked hundreds of women Elon Musk who is an absolute weirdo made many women hod baby mommas
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:57 AM
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Some western born are also sexless in their teens because they have to study hard to enter those prestigious schools
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:36 AM
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if being inexperienced is a red flag, then half or maybe 2/3 of MIT and many Ivy league school students are considered red flags as well which is particularly not true. Those guys and girls are one of the most sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:32 AM
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Amber Heard is hot but she's not an AAA actress anyway. It only happens in the US that billionaires and top celebs rarely date each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:30 AM
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I just stopped taking this sub seriously after seeing comments like "working class guys having an easier time with women", bro have you seen the women those guys fucked ?? it's either too redpill or too bluepill. there's no middle ground here. you'll struggle in life hard if you take this sub seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:12 PM
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Yes if she's forced to do or did it unintentionally, that's totally understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:01 AM
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double standard is a dealbreaker for me. like if she's willing to do it with ex (es), but not want to do it with me or tell me to wait for a marriage, that kinda turns me off completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:53 AM
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I dunno. Wasn't in the past we saw those groupies who got fucked at the backstage by rockstars as low quality ? Now we think of this as normal human nature ? The time flies so fast
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:02 AM
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it depends many wouldn't see you as a loser if you date Ana De Armas who is also a single mom. but if you date a 40 years old McDonalds cashier with 3 kids from 3 different fathers, that's another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:18 PM
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Boobs not weight. Some men make fun of girls with small boobs. But girls with big boobs don't get any more respect from men. I believe the same can be applied to men's dick size. OP is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:04 AM
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Insta and Tiktok are 2 of my most hated social media. I can't stand the shallowness and flexing culture in the way people presenting themselves on those 2 platforms. Tiktok might even be better in this case since you can still enjoy with plenty of cat videos. If dating life is really like those 2, i'm out, I can stay single. No, i find dating is nothing like that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:04 AM
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Just import more immigrants. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:25 AM
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Sometimes they just want someone who can support them financially when they get older
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:28 AM
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I'm fine with being called a husband material as long as she shares the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:27 AM
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She's not into you. She just wants to keep you as her plan b.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:14 AM
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I wonder what the guy is supposed to think when the girl he's in relationship with spreads her legs to every thug she meets at the bar but refuses to sleep him ? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't think of it as a proof of being a quality man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:41 AM
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Having FWB/ONS while in a relationship is 100% cheating in my book. I just don't understand what those people are thinking ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:27 AM
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A friend of my friend just found out that the girl he's dating with was having a FWB while telling him she's not ready for sex. Her excuse is typical blue pill preaches, she said she saw him as a potential partner so she had him wait for sex. Her relationship with her FWB was just physical. He left her not long after that. He told my friend the girl made him look like an idiot. Damn i hate modern dating strategy. It's fucked up in so many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:07 AM
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So it's fine if Peter is having sex with other women while in a relationship with Sally because it's just physical ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:51 AM
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dude, i'd give Lauren 7/10 maybe 6/10 at best. Do you think Bezos can't get girls with better looks ? As i told you, if he's in europe, dozens of supermodels would be lining up to get fucked by him. This tells you that he doesn't date Lauren based on her appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:50 AM
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Rubber condom was invented in 1855. I'm not sure women back then were dumb enough to have unprotected sex with the first guys they slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:39 AM
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No, I prefer Mackenzie in her youth to a plastic doll. This tells you that billionaires in the US have their own unique taste. If Bezos were in europe, he'd definitely date supermodels or AAA celebrities. But billionaires in the US are doing their own things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:31 AM
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Billionaires in the west coast especially those tech founders in Silicon valley rarely date Hollywood actresses as well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:21 AM
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I think many problems come from people who want to have a cake and eat it too. They don't believe in religion and monogamous relationship while are still enforcing traditional values to their partners like some girls might say being traditional wife is sexism but they still demand their partners to be strong providers. I don't think it works that way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:00 AM
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I feel like marriages between billionaires and supermodels/celebs are not as uncommon in europe as in the US. For example Michelle Yeoh just married her long time partner who is an ex-CEO of Ferrari. While billionaires and celebs in the US are doing their own things, both rarely pair up with each other. The US is more like the exception than the norm in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:46 AM
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If marriage is about merging assets, the woman needs to have equal assets to her partner and vice versa or else one of them would automatically become a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:26 AM
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The guy in and out of jail always has several baby mommas Dude, just look at quality of women those guys fuck. I wouldn't touch those chicks with a 10 ft pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:09 AM
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Isn't social media manager the lowest of low level job and usually performed by interns ? Anyway the market will regulate itself in the long run. If more people find out that a job that can be done by an elementary student pays well, more people will apply for the job and the salary will go down fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:10 AM
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majority of women prefer partners who make more than them sometimes significantly more. i see a contradiction here. if they want guys who are richer but they don't want to do more house work, what do they bring to the table then ?? why does the guy have to commit when he would end up poorer doing so ?? i don't know. i have no interest in women who make less and are less educated than me, you can search my history. i just sometimes feel like many women here want to hit the lottery, having guys wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:46 AM
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my point is if the CEO just works more maybe just 1 hour a week, they could earn an extra salary more than what the cashier makes in a year. what's the point of forcing the CEO to do a house work ?? it's a waste of time. i realize that my example is probably too extreme. a relationship between a CEO and a low level worker is just a pipe dream, it basically doesn't happen in modern days. but hey i still see many low level female workers hope that managers and executives will have an eye on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:35 AM
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I think if they both work the same hours there needs to be a fair division of labor and childcare. same hours for a McDonald's cashier is not the same for the CEO. if we're talking about efficiency here, the CEO is very efficient at making money while the cashier is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:20 AM
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if you end up making just a fraction of your partner, it's not wrong to admit that your career might already reach a dead end. just take a look at bluepill, moms with career or whatever sub, many women there are willing to quit their jobs if their husbands make significantly more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:07 AM
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then people with low income will be very unattractive partners since they can contribute less but demand more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:04 AM
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it will be over a long period of time. if that job is so difficult that no one is willing to do it, it would become much harder for the employer to find someone to work for forcing them to raise the salary. demand and supply rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:02 AM
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after my auntie decided to quit and become a stay at home wife, my uncle gave her salary equal to what she got from her work plus he paid all family expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:35 AM
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Most of my friends got married with partners they met at schools or work so i guess their partners have similar incomes. In my opinion, the one who makes 50k should be a stay at home partner and do most of household work anyway. It's not worth working when your income is just a fraction of your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:24 AM
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That's why couples have to work in harmony not systematically. If you make 50% more or even double of your partner's income, it's fine to share the household work. Nothing needs to be split equally, each partner steps up when the others is in need. But if your salary grows significantly like 3× more than your partner (it usually happens when someone get into the management level), there's nothing wrong with asking your partner to be a stay at home husband/wife or whatever since he/she contribute…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:07 AM
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If raising a child is harder than any job, a daycare work would be among the highest paid job already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:55 AM
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Well... most of my friends who are married choose to have 3 bank accounts Two for each partner's personal use, they can do whatever they want with this money and every month, both will contribute similar amount of money to the shared account for family expenses. Most of them are MC and UMC. I think this makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:45 AM
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Women need to be reminded that a romantic partner is not her ATM as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:08 AM
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or just having a relationship with person who earns in the same bracket as yours ? problem solved ? my friend used to date a girl who lived in an apartment with no AC, had to ride a bike to her workplace, and lived paycheck to paycheck while he had a house, cars, and his own business It didn't work. They broke up shortly. Their lifestyles were too different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:24 AM
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so the higher earners don't have higher standards of living when having relationships with lower earners. they have to pay more and share the household work equally. in conclusion, it's not worth having a relationship with a person who significantly makes less than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:17 AM
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That's why gold diggers exist and my goal is to avoid them. Some people contribute basically nothing to the society but earn so much money. We just avoid them or take advantages if we're in the positions that capable of. I always avoid having a relationship with low earning and low educated person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:14 AM
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who cares about effort ? we are in the capitalism society. people only care about results. if you think your pay isn't worth your effort, just find a new job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:59 AM
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if the household work is split 50/50, the bill should be split equally as well. why should one partner contribute more financially ??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:55 AM
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the lower earner had to pay 100% of everything when they were alone as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:51 AM
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People can still cheat even when they're 60, right ? Maybe they just pretend that they already changed in order to get married due to economic reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:36 AM
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Some people have to spend their youth studying and working to uplift standard of living for themselves and their families. While some girls can have their fun and settle down when their youth is fading on other people's hard work ? I don't know. I think both groups are not compatible i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:28 AM
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My point is why do they change in all of sudden ? Sure, people change all the time but it's not like they plan that they're going to change at certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:19 AM
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I couldn't have said it any better. https://youtube.com/shorts/XDoQLKA5wa0 I still don't get women who had their fun in the past but all of sudden want to settle down and become traditional wives by the age of 30. It doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:03 AM
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i'm straight so i'm not interested in men but if my cousin asks me for advices about guys, surely i will tell her to be very cautious on guys who have ONS/FWB experience or promiscuous past. i'm very close to my cousin. i don't want her to be on the list of those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:36 AM
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seriously i'd feel like are we having a rehearse for a drama ?? i don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:33 AM
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20% of MIT freshmen already lost their virginity. it's rare for more educated people but not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:28 AM
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what if she had an ONS in her teens but stopped completely, now she's in her 20s with good looks and charisma and graduated from an ivy league school ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:22 AM
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actually i'd put yellow flags on every women who used to have ONS/FWB experience :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:17 AM
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kinda yellow flag for me. it's almost like those reborn virgin girls who immediately turn conservative the moment they feel like they want to settle down. i won't completely back out but will be very cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:14 AM
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Yes but those feminists aren't shitting on men in this sub as well. Hell i don't think they know this sub exists. They're targeting older actors like Leonardo DiCaprio who dates a yrs old girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:59 AM
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No, basically every sane woman prefers Tom Holland over a tall Starbuck barista.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:00 PM
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It depends on women's standards. If she's fine with just living together or already lived together with her ex-partner(s) in the past, there's no need for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:14 AM
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Everybody is classist to some degree. Do you think a girl from Harvard would have her eyes on a barista at Starbucks who barely makes a living wage ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:31 AM
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then a man with some standards like a woman must have at least a bachelor degree, have a job with good career path, come from a middle class shouldn't be considered unusual
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:49 AM
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how often is it ? like once every ten years ? but a marriage between a woman from an ivy league school and a blue collar man is much more rare, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:34 AM
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Have you seen a male doctor marrying a Starbucks girl or a Harvard girl marrying a plumber in real life ? Everybody is classist. They're just hiding behind fancy words like socioeconomic status, social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:57 AM
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You're not gonna be left with half if she leaves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:43 AM
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Contact Zion Williamson's gf https://people.com/who-is-ahkeema-zion-williamson-7510051
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:27 AM
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Men are good at making excuses for themselves. In the past, most high value men married down like doctors married nurses or managers married secretaries because there were not many educated women. Now there are plenty of women who are educated and successful. You want a beautiful and friendly doctor ? Sure, there are plenty of them. But men especially here are still like... Uhh... I don't care about women's career. Give me a pretty McDonald's cashier ?? If you choose to marry a lower class woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:26 AM
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Wedding, ring, party all of them are expensive. Moreover guy would put his financial situation at risk if he married a girl who is poorer than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:54 AM
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Haven't watched it yet. I wonder why men have to spend so much money since marriage is very expensive while they get almost exact same benefits as just living together
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:46 AM
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Europe is one of most civilized continents. Still more and more kids over there are born out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:40 AM
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So it's mostly women who push for marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:44 AM
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So men have to pay something like 5 figures to have 2% more sex Sounds like a great deal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:42 AM
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What's the point of marriage nowadays apart from religious reasons when people can have sex, live together, and even have kids out of wedlock ? I know kids who were born out of wedlock in the US are mostly from lower class. But the same cannot be said for europe, over there even middle class people live together and have kids out of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:24 AM
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RP will think that why the last guy has to put much more effort like having stable finance and good education just to have the same outcome as the ex(es) who are basically good at nothing but looks ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:15 AM
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Super model makes millions yearly. Surely an average joe will not be able to afford her lifestyle. Still it's not as common as you think. Bill Gates, Mark Zuck, Steve Jobs, Elon fucking Musk and many tech billionaires didn't marry super models. They probably fucked many but didn't wife them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:06 PM
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Where does the idea of CEO marrying a Starbucks girl come from ? I've never seen any of this case in my life maybe except for celebs and athletes who fuck every being that doesn't have a tail anyway. Men sometimes marry women who are inferior to them financially and educationally but the women need to have at least a decent career like nurse or teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:45 PM
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Hell no. Why would a doctor marry a girl who is less valuable than an escort ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:39 PM
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Educated wife is not a good role model if you want your kid to be educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:28 PM
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If there are fewer women who want to work in these jobs, salary would be raised substantially. I'm pretty sure many men are willing to fill the gap due to higher pay. Not to mention many of these jobs such as administration and HR can be replaced with AI and automation system. The rule of supply and demand works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:13 AM
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women who value their husbands for only money deserve to be treated as broodmares easy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:39 PM
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Well, it depends on the woman being a blue collar or white collar worker. I can't imagine a rich guy marrying a blue collar girl who works in Starbucks, Walmart without getting ridiculed by his family and social circle. It's extremely rare you can just ignore all the cases that happened. But you can see a rich guy marrying a nurse, teacher occasionally. It doesn't happen all the time but can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:44 PM
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This. Rich guy would definitely want a woman who has education and career but she doesn't have to be as rich as him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:31 PM
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women work more in the social sector (healthcare, teaching, administration, Human Resources etc.) you know that no one forces women to work in these jobs, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:08 PM
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You're correct. Dating market is not efficient. That's why your market value is determined by the social circle you're in. If you're surrounded with single moms who got knocked up by their ex chads. The best thing you can score is a single mom. No matter you're a Harvard graduate, you cannot find any better option. It doesn't exist in this market. That's why i disagree with OP, the market cannot tell your exact value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:13 AM
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Dating is not a free market. There's no way you can meet all people in the world. It's not like grocery shopping. Your choices are limited by people you're exposed to. An engineer with a degree from a top tier university who lives in a rural area would probably do worse in dating than a blue collar worker who lives in a big city. Tinder wants to be an aggregator for dating market but seems like they aren't very successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:26 PM
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If the couple are conservative, yes there's no other choice. But for modern couples, i really don't see the point. Why put your financial situation at risk in case of breaking up ? Just live together like living with your ex bf/gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:15 PM
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I mean isn't that what's happening in europe ? People choose to live together without marriage. Europe is the area with the least marriage rate in the world if i remember correctly. I have no idea what's the point of marriage nowadays when people can have sex, live together, and even have kids out of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:42 AM
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one reason i got from my friend (who is a muslim, lol) they viewed a marriage as an investment. there's no reason for them to 'invest' in a girl who used to cohabit with her ex(es) easily. marriage is expensive why wasting money when you can get the same benefit by spending nothing. but this is an opinion from a religious and conservative person tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:14 AM
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Only reddit, especially in pill-related subs, thinks women's education is not important. Education and career is everything. I will never take a cashier at walmart or a hooter girl to see my family. They also complain about women being gold diggers and men being bread winners. If they really don't want a gold digger, just marry someone who makes more than minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:02 PM
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Calling all women whores is not ok but some deserve to be called like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:58 AM
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"A broke man is like a broke hand. Can't do anything with it." Chris Rock
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:44 AM
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I have no idea why that triggers you so much. I have no interest in fucking those women as well. We live our own lives i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:34 AM
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Not all blue collar women are bar whores
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:19 AM
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Blue collar men have no chance at dating girls with degrees from Ivy League schools. I think it's quality over quantity at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:27 AM
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I'd rather have $100k from working in tech companies than making $30-40k with occasional chances to fuck bar whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:13 AM
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Easy. Lower quality women have lower standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:08 AM
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that's why smart guys like Mark Zuck, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs didn't marry supermodels (even tho they could've easily done) Most of those chicks are horrible to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:17 AM
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That's good for you. I think that depends on whether people want to follow god's plan or not. In my opinion, having kids out of wedlock is not ideal. But it's what our world are heading to. People don't think about long term. They don't marry because they can leave anytime they want. Kids are just by products of 2 people living together for a long time not something special that couples need to make some kind of commitments before. I don't like it but i admit this is likely to be our future. Any…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:12 PM
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Both sexes want to have a cake and eat it too. Many women want to settle down with rich and family oriented men after having their fun past. They're searching for their retirement plans. I see european's way as the only way out of this situation. Just don't marry, live together as partners, have kids out of wedlock. Marriage has lost its meaning already. You can live together, have kids, and do everything almost the same as what married couples do. Why put yourself at risk financially by getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:27 PM
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I said "young women view hooking up as a way to liberate women" not young men. I don't think young men care about liberating women, they'd just take what they could get. It's the same as when some women see cigarettes as torches of freedom. I think both ideas are totally stupid if you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:51 PM
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you know it's kinda difficult nowadays to have a stable job with a good pay in order to start a family while it's extremely easy (for some guys tho) to hook up and many women. mostly in younger gen, still view hook up as a way to encourage and liberate women. so... moreover many men here also don't want women who have naughty past to see them as retirement plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 04:43 PM
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But if the woman experienced many one night stands in the past but asks the guy to wait, it's possible that he'd think that he's getting played and treated like an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:37 AM
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I don't think that's how expectation works. A guy marries a girl who used to have regularly, surely he never expects her to stop completely after living with him. If so, it depends on how she communicates with him because the guy can think that she's not into him sexually but for other benefits like financial stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:50 PM
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What if the woman used to have sex and do naughty things with her ex(es), but rarely does or just stops completely after settling down ? I think it's possible that the man would feel like he's an idiot in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:13 PM
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lol no A guy with career will probably have sex with a cashier but he will never wife her up When it comes to marriage, career women win like 99.9% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:11 PM
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Why are you so furious ? For me socioeconomic is no. 1, i wouldn't date a McDonald's cashier even if she's very compatible with me. Sure it's possible for a former bar girl to raise her kid into an ivy league school but i'd better not take a risk. I'm from a big asian family so it's not difficult for me to stay single even if i couldn't find an SO who matches my values since i have many relatives and friends whom i can hang out with. Even Bill Gates got married when he was almost 40 after becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:26 PM
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Do you think the type of girl who wants to settle after 'having her fun' is willing to pay the bills ? I'm not sure about that. and there are many things more than just being compatible like being a good role model for a child (some men/women may not want partners with lifestyles that can potentially put them at risk of STI, getting raped and blackmailed etc etc). finding someone who is compatible is easy, much easier than finding someone who is well-educated, financially stable and also compati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:28 AM
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They don't care cuz it's the guys who pay the bills. I wouldn't care about the past as well, if Taylor Swift or Kylie Jenner were interested in me. But reality doesn't work that way, women are likely to choose partners who are at least a bit superior to them financially. I think that's why many men care about women's past or else they'd benefit nothing from the relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:05 AM
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trashy black woman doesn't count EDIT: i was wrong. just found out she's a rapper with a million followers. sure she can fuck as many guys as she wants. compared to average party girls, she's on another level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:22 AM
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I don't see the point of marriage nowadays when cohabitation exists. Technically you can cohabit with your partner as long as possible since there's no time limit. and that's what's happening in europe. People just live together but don't marry. Except for those conservatives which are minorities anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:01 AM
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i think he means women can expect to marry up but not for men. i saw many cases of women marrying up. in one case the girl was just an elementary school teacher but her soon to be husband was a millionaire. now she's a stay at home wife since her income is minuscule compared to her husband's. probably they're minority since statistically majority of people are married to ones who belong to the same classes. but you can still see the case like this regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:09 AM
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Teenage men are simple. They just want to fuck something with holes. But grown up men aren't. It's almost unthinkable that a 6 figs guy would settle down with a McDonalds cashier even if she's pretty. Socioeconomic class is always no.1. no one wants to get humiliated by people of their circle. There's no point of marrying a low class woman when you can keep her as a fuck buddy. This shows you that this sub largely consists of a bunch of teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:42 PM
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I do care. It's my no 1 priority when looking for a long term relationship. I will not wife up a hooter girl even tho she's attractive. You can check my thread history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:58 AM
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“beautiful or literally die” that's because those women let themselves to be significantly affected by fashion and entertainment industry. you see highly educated women especially in STEM field and corporate women ? they never consider appearance as their first priority. education and career win against beauty most of the time. it's just some low value women still don't understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:21 AM
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because limb surgery is very expensive and risky. you can end up not being able to run properly again. it's not like short men aren't trying to be taller but that option is considered not worth taking a risk by a vast majority of people in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:31 AM
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telling about your past first is actually a good first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:10 PM
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Because party girls usually do not have their shit together especially in early life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:19 AM
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Women date up, my dude. PhD women generally don't want their bodies to be used by low class men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:31 AM
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In modern days, most intelligent people are spending their time working up on their education and career. They're the least likely group to have a hor phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:15 AM
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Attractive but dumb is kinda useless. Unless they are Hollywood level attractive which is very unlikely anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:00 AM
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Most hot women who are educated especially in STEM field are not hoes. But the supply is very limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:44 AM
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Men do not want to have kids with hoes. It's a waste of their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:40 AM
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It's the truth especially this day when women are more educated and have better careers. You don't see a doctor marrying a nurse often this day, do you ? Why would a man marry a woman who makes a fraction of his income and is useless in every aspect besides her look ?? It doesn't make any sense. Women who mostly hit the wall hard are the ones who have her fun during her youth and try to find a financial supporter after aging. The world doesn't work that way. They usually end up being stuck with …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:37 AM
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Those women give me the same vibe as successful boomer women which is definitely a good thing in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:44 AM
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I am intimidated by attractive party girls. I always feel like they see me as their ATM. I've never been intimidated by rich women in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:31 AM
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You're her exit strategy because you intend to raise her for the rest of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:21 PM
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Surely they would care. She's going to be one of the members of their family who share the same last name as well as in the same social group. You just can't live with only your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:19 PM
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yes its not the norm, but look what it has done. barely any functioning families, women bei g single mothers and being way to old when getting pregnant. How often you see highly educated women being single mothers ?? Most single moms are from working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:14 PM
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and now she sees you as an exit strategy after several failed attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:01 PM
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social status is everything my man. Imagine you're a successful man working in a top tier company with $200k salary, you wouldn't want your friends and family to know that you're marrying a hooter girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:46 PM
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i'll tell you that look is a dime a dozen. every woman who is 50 years old or older looks pretty much the same except those who have done plastic surgeries. and women with similar careers and education levels tend to be more personality matched to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:55 AM
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assortative mating is actually a thing in almost every modern country.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:36 AM
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i will probably date her or even sleep with her but i will never wife her up. that's simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:32 AM
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Formal education gives you nothing you can't make up for in a relationship. chance of her having a better career, better income, higher social status, and everything necessary when starting a family. oh... and less chance of getting divorce raped as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:42 AM
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You can do whatever you want but i find things many people here complaining are totally absurd. Finding a virgin or low bodycount woman from working class is like finding a needle in a haystack. It's just unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:11 AM
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I've never seen a university Prof. having a child out of wedlock in my life while it becomes norm for the working class. So this indirectly shows how important is education.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:23 AM
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Still much more reliable than an experience of a one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:14 AM
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My engineer friend dated women in a factory production line and got cheated twice. Now he's in a relationship with his friend from the same college.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:10 AM
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Women date up or at least someone at their levels. I've never seen and can't imagine a doctor loves having an orgy with construction workers but maybe it happens but less frequently than for working class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:02 AM
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Survey is an actual experience of thousands people while your experience is actually yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:53 AM
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Social status and career advancement. Girls from Ivy league U will end up being CEOs, entrepreneurs, and many other high level employees with a chance of making millions yearly. While the plumbers usually stay plumbing for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:39 AM
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They just can't have a cake and eat it too. If they want a submissive wife, they should realize that she's probably submissive to many guys before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:09 AM
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According to the survey, half MIT students are still virgins while the national average is only 20-25% for people at the same age. How many MIT girls have you slept with ?? and can i ask what is your college degree ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:04 AM
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That's why self improvement is much more important than 'game'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:00 AM
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Then you should consider it as a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:58 AM
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Then they should start valuing more about education.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:10 AM
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guys aren't going to rule you out because you don't have a good career, or ambition, or whatever else goes in that category. i am definitely. i refuse to date women with low education, no career prospect, and bad family background. i'd consider sleeping with them (very unlikely) but i will never think about marrying low value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:27 PM
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investments. mostly stocks and cryptos. i also founded a company (i wouldn't call it a startup but it made $7 millions in revenue last year) when i was studying my PhD, with 4 of my close friends, 2 of which are still singles. one of the co-founders of my company who is in his early 30s is thinking about getting a trophy wife (something like a young attractive virgin girl) since he feels his life is already fulfilled. but i'm still looking for an LTR but it's kinda difficult since there are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 02:24 AM
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i'm a millionaire with a background of an asian family. my grandparents have 9 children. so i have many uncles and aunties as well as several cousins and nieces and nephews. i'm living in a different culture which allows me to have more choices than an average american person i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 02:00 AM
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I dunno. Apart from having children, I don't see the point of marriage. When this day you can cheat the system by cohabiting with your partner as long as you want without any marriage at all. Maybe i would agree with you if this was before the sexual revolution. Now men can take full benefits of marriages without getting married. Moreover do you think a divorced Elon Musk would be scared if he has to be alone for the rest of his life ??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:14 AM
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Maybe because both were working in the same field ? That's why their strength enforced each other. It's not like many modern relationships when many couples met online, in the clubs, or some random places.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:57 PM
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Even in a new era, you’re better off married than alone. That's our different take. I see no point of marriage besides having kids. Well most kids this day were born out of wedlock anyway. Moreover i just finished my PhD, i still enjoy my life. Maybe i will look for a partner in my workplace. But surely i will never force myself into the dating market especially on those online dating platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:56 PM
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Ask the elders That's the point. They met each other in the different era. With much less divorce rate. No casual sex was worshipped as it is this day. Not many facilities for single people. Not many hobbies and activities. etc. My parents always teach me how to live independently before looking for someone to fulfill my life. My 1st rule is it'd better to live as a single than having a bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:40 PM
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That's not a good suggestion. Most people know the benefits of having good life partners but they also realize how their lives can get fucked up in horrible relationships. You're trying to guide people to force themselves into miserable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:20 PM
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Couples tend to make fewer new friends after they get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:16 PM
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Just stop using online dating platforms. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:57 PM
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There are many things you don't regret missing out. For example, i couldn't careless about missing on using heroine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:34 PM
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Thailand has many different demographics categorized by wealth, ethicity, and education. For upper-middle class, i'd say your chance of hooking up with these people are pretty much non-existent. Most of them still practice "no sex before marriage". and there's a Thai-Chinese ethnic group who are mostly middle class. As everybody knows Chinese tend to be more traditional whether they are in Thailand, US, or Europe. Some chinese liberals may not wait for marriages to have sex but they always keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:30 AM
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One thing i believe this sub is sexual history matters. That's why i only date people in my circle or who are introduced by my relatives and friends. I just think that lifestyle won't get along with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 03:19 AM
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I have never seen rich people settled down with sluts unless they were sluts themselves. So yeah, the term "betabux" is too extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 02:04 AM
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but with the invention of birth control. some women decide to take advantage by fucking every man she thinks is attractive instead since the consequences of sex dramatically decrease. while men are still limited to monogamy which is 100% socially contructed. i don't know how long this trend can keep going because most men do not want to invest and stick around with whores. they aren't worth investing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 01:24 AM
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People who value attractiveness over some important traits like intelligence aren't worth passing their genes to the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 12:14 AM
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“If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win” Bill Shankley
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:19 AM
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just sleep with them but don't wife them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:45 AM
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if girls irl prefer a tall McDonalds cashier over Tom Holland, just let them do it. you can't fix stupidity anyway. just move to europe, east asian, or southeast asian, anywhere in the world that still value men more than superficial things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:10 PM
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Those low class women are now vocal minorities tho. Moreover social media and stupid online dating platforms are also promoting this kind of brainless behaviours. No educated and well earned women i know irl wants to get fucked by handsome bartenders. They will only have sex with their LTRs who are equally matched with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:27 AM
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Can you link me to that ? I just googled and found that he got dumped during his college time. lol https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/what-did-ben-affleck-do-before-becoming-famous.html/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 02:17 AM
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i think this sub pretty much describes behaviors of most girls on online dating platforms. they hurt people a lot when you're into them and couldn't find any success. i avoid onling dating like plague because in my country those platforms are full of low class people seeking for richer spouses, guys who have ONS as their only objectives, and plenty of scams.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:27 AM
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vocal minority. i've seen many women on social media not just on Reddit posted something like guys with less than 5'6 (170 cm) tall aren't worth dating. while irl Mr. Tom Holland (Spider-man) height is 5'6. absolute no one with right mind is gonna pick a 6'1 cashier at McDonalds over Tom Holland like ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:17 PM
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i'm not a US person so i cannot answer this question. but as someone who is from the country with the highest infidelity rate. https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/news-durex-condoms-thai-men-most-unfaithful-in-the-world/ yes, i do care. promiscuous ones are avoided like plague here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:54 AM
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the situation is different from that in the US. men in conservative countries are promised that they can find good women to start building families, when they work their way up or they can stay single if that's their choice. but that's totally not the same US. there are fewer correlations between having good a career and having a good dating life. some tech workers who earn like $200-300k a year still struggle to find good LTRs. i'm not a US citizen but after skimming through many dating subs i …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:19 AM
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There's no way for a normal person to have more than 5 sexual partners before settling down if all are LTRs. Anyway don't try to derail my point and move the goal post. I never said anything about virgin. I don't want to marry a town whore. There's a higher chance that person has an issue with impulse control and can be very superficial, both of which are really bad for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:16 AM
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I'm talking about high n count people who love casual sex not ones who only have sex in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:07 AM
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Maybe they just don't want to marry a town whore ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:04 AM
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Alphas for this type of women need to be smart high status alphas which i find much more acceptable that handsome strippers. I'm avoiding girls who easily give themselves to low status men like plague
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 06:11 PM
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From my experience, women with higher education seem to be much less promiscuous. I mean most of them don't want to get fucked by a handsome bartender. It makes them feel like they're being used by a lower class being. And people with higher intelligence seem to have much better impulse control as well. We're all taught since the ancient days. Study hard, get a good job, and don't marry a slut. I still believe this is the best strategy even for the miserable online dating era we're currently in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 05:27 PM
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Dude, are you living and working in a stripper bar ? 70% of students who enroll MIT are virgins. Of all students who graduate, 1/3 of them are still virgins. Sure they exist. A lot of them. And most of them will work in big corporations in Silicon Valley or found startups themselves. Basically upper-middle to upper class of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:19 PM
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More than 1/3 of MIT students graduate as virgins, much much higher than the US average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:26 AM
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Those hot girls can divorce you and run away with money real quick. I'm literally a millionaire. I consider higher degree and education more prestigious. I'll probably date girls based on their looks but i will never wife them up. It's too risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure that guy wouldn't find the same success with MIT/Harvard graduated girls. Highly intelligent and educated women care about the sexual past of their partners since they mostly grew up in not-so-much sexual lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:43 AM
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I'm living in Asia. I can say most asian women in general are super-impressed when they find out that guys they're dating are engineers. i'd say modernity just fucks the US up so hard. STEM is the fundamental of all innovations and you're gonna leave these fields to angry single nerds ? that's not gonna work. i mean at least give them some respect they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:59 PM
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it's totally different for religious people. they can't be together outside of marriages. so bring back christian values, make marriages great again ??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 02:45 PM
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Height, physical appearance, and many things can't also be changed (except maybe plastic surgery) but people are still dating based on their preferences which can't be changed anyway. The difference is people had control over their past but they cannot do anything with their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 03:41 AM
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High body count does not mean someone is a cheater or not. does not 'always' mean but according to the study, higher sexual partners can lead to a higher divorce rate which is bad for persons who are financially better than their partners. in my country, women still expect their partners to earn more, they 'date up'. if you're a rich guy, would you want to do to de-risk anything that would be able to affect you financially before going into the marriage ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:56 AM
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the problem is how that person proves that he/she has already changed ? or they're just the same person all along trying to be opportunistic when they're getting older. i'm from the country with the highest infidelity rate for men and 2nd highest for women, there's no way i will settle down with a high n-count person. https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/news-durex-condoms-thai-men-most-unfaithful-in-the-world/ if anything, a virgin, an arranged marriage, or even girls from neighboring countries is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:06 AM
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It's not specific to any gender. Women also benefit from winning war.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:41 PM
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war benefits the whole country that wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:07 PM
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i'm not talking about strong aggressive or passive ones. i'm talking about this according to OP A man who is ruthless and mean and willing to do whatever is necessaryto survive is dangerous to everyone that he isn't loyal to, that's the type of selfish leader you should avoid. all leaders, bad, average, or good, are great at convincing others to work for them. they will not do anything to survive at the cost of other people's interest since it's the best way to lose your support. and women who p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:00 AM
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nah... you should've warned her first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:51 AM
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so it's either researchers are special people or you're dumber than chimps. it cannot go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:21 AM
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surprisingly its Frans De Waal who said this line DE WAAL: Yeah, Amos - sort of interesting story because he was a very popular alpha male. And alpha males become popular if they keep the peace and keep everybody happy and bring harmony to the group. That's the ones that they really like in chimpanzee society. https://www.npr.org/transcripts/751492970 ​ i think this is what makes the whole difference the primathologist that was studying that group of chimps in the zoo of Atlanta studying chimps …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:43 PM
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you mean researchers in this field are special ? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/alpha-male-alpha-chimpanzee-primatologist-frans-de-waal-a8421291.html
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:34 PM
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You mean people who don't understand sarcasm ??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:46 PM
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Wed-lock is so risky for guys. Some of my friends who are from wealthy families made a joke like they'd love if arranged marriage were still a thing lol Yes, being single mother is not preferable in my country as well but not as much as someone who has promiscuous past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:10 PM
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Actually many men achieve their goals by cooperating with others. Even in the study found that many alpha chimpanzees are not the most aggressive but are the ones who are good at tendering and convincing other members in the group. So this probably shows that some chimps are smarter than humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:56 PM
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I'm not a US person but in my country most women still expect men to be breadwinners. So even the most promicuous ones make a 180 degrees turn when they want to settle down with someone since they're not considered 'marriage materials' by a vast majority of men. You also cannot blame men from doing so since we're the country with the most unfaithful marriages in the world according to a study from Durex. https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/news-durex-condoms-thai-men-most-unfaithful-in-the-world/ Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:25 PM
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To humanity ? Come on do you really think men want babies that much ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:08 PM
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why some men are so concerned about what a woman did for a previous guy. Women do not think about this. Because most of the time men are the ones who have to invest. Surely they want to be treated equally or better. What do you think if a girl who has promiscuous past tells you to wait for marriage ? For me it's a huge red flag. This means she's luring you into a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:37 AM
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Perhaps we need a fling after a rough patch and then after a time we are ready to settle down? you know this quote from Bill Shankley, the legendary manager of Liverpool Football Club. “If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win.” ​ You selfishly do everything just for your own interest, having wild times with bad boys, manwhores when you're young while looking for men with lesser sexual attractiveness but better financial stability after getting older. What about…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 03:51 AM
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maybe she wouldn't have met the love of her life or maybe he would have had a hard time accepting her promiscuous past if she decided to spend her wild times like you suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:16 AM
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having well-earned stable careers ?? it's pretty normal for guys here to prioritize work over relationships until they feel secure with their careers. believe me it's very normal. when you say that you're a single guy at the age of 30+, people here will respond with "don't worry you still have your golden era until 40s".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:21 PM
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Dating girls over 18 years old is not. WTF ??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:46 PM
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they're throwing away a huge window of opportunity to have partners if they start looking for theirs after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:33 PM
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not having a partner for your whole life is huge for many tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:04 PM
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Right, that's why male-female friendships are very important, imo. But she needs to do good things for you too obviously good things can be telling me more about herself, introducing me to her friends, or bringing to her special places she loves visiting, not just sex. i mean if i only want sex i can find a prostitute who is more attractive than top 5% of Tinder. what's the point ? ​ What do you think your dating world will look like in 10 years? anything in between what is currently happening t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:16 PM
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i dunno. there's nothing wrong with pursuing a good career over love at a young age, why they have to accept such a huge accountability ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:02 PM
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Was anyone saying that this was a problem? Most people who date or have sex together longterm do friendly things like eat meals, go to movies, take vacations, just hang out, etc. i mean without any expectation of sex in return. when you do something good to a girl just because you want to sleep with here, it's kinda fake for me. ​ How prevalent is it so far? it's growing in social media but most middle class parents still tell their daughters to only have sex when ready and with the right guy. t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:56 PM
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i still think revolving the dating world around sex is not healthy. it emphasizes too much on appearance. there's nothing wrong about having friendly meals with a girl you're dating with. now i'm ready to form a movement against the western dating strategy in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:42 PM
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i'd agree with RP in many senses. the system is not totally fucked up but is wrong in many levels. it doesn't allow guys to mature in many aspects of their lives like they're supposed to. instead of spending their youth working their way up for their own lives (and probably future partners) now they need to put their focus FOMOing for their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:26 PM
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in general. i mean how those professors find their partners in the US ? because they're considered old by the US standard already when they start their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:19 PM
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may i know how those university Prof. have their partners in the US ? because they're probably in their 30s after finishing PhD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:12 PM
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i'm not living in the US so i have no idea about that. patience is always my practice. mentioning sex early in just your 1st or 2nd date is a huge red flag for many women here. they will think you're a pickup artist. i can live with that because i'm looking for a long term relationship anyway and i wouldn't be successful in any date if my country adopt the western value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:05 PM
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i would be in the same situation as those RPers if i live in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:53 PM
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so it teaches people to be opportunistic. instead of sharing weal and woe with their partners (which directly strengthens their bonds), they're just jumping in and out between each situation that benefits them the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:43 PM
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It's kinda like polygamy era except they can only have sex but not making babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:14 PM
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Middle class people here are struggling hard raising themselves. It's pretty much a gamble for picking a young guy that he'll have a prosper career when it's only his first job.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:00 PM
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It's fucked when you can ask a girl for sex in the 2nd date and that girl is pressured to say "YES". In my country you can get slapped in the face doing so. That's why appearance matters too much. If you're indirectly forced to have sex, it'd better to have with a good looking person. I won't say sexual conservative is good but we need to find a middle ground here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:56 PM
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Then you're fucked up. It takes time for guys to mature socially and mentally. How do you know persons are good inside if you only judge them for their looks ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:44 PM
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Just not revolving your dating culture around sex too much, it doesn't allow guys to prosper in other aspects than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:30 PM
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If you don't have a better job than guys who are 8-10 years younger, that's your problem. Yes, women work in my country. We are the country with top 2 women in executive positions. https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1782814/thailand-no-2-by-women-serving-as-senior-execs They're just more rational when it comes to picking someone as their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:26 PM
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Not included me then. She gives you the best of her and you give her the best of you. That's actually the best deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:17 PM
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Betas' appearances wouldn't be that bad with a bit of extra work out. Moreover you get the girl at a very young age and she will have your baby, what more could you want ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:08 PM
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Should go back to the civil war period when young girls married old veterans for economic benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:04 PM
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In my country, it makes a little difference until the guy is over 50 years old. I mean the guy at her age still doesn't have a bright future. Economic pressure has much more impact than sexual pressure here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:01 PM
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cultural difference. many women here are taught to find someone to settle down at young age not just for sexual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:39 AM
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we're the country with top 3 number of women in executive positions and many of them are single. i think one of the reason is those women don't feel like they have to settle down with anybody and men can settle down with younger women. there are sexual liberation movements here and there but not accepted by the mass. many women refuse to follow because they think it benefits womanizers and pickup artists. our culture doesn't develop that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:18 AM
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the numbers vary between different demography. but i can guarantee you that there's little to no chance for a guy asking a young middle-class girl for sex in their 3rd date. it's pretty much game over for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:39 AM
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average number of sexual partners here maybe 3-4. most girls consider you rude and sexually desperate if you ask if they want to sleep with you in the 2nd or 3rd date. ​ some couples here stay sexless for 5-6 years before breaking up or getting married. it's that hard for women here to say "YES" (no, those girls in Pattaya don't count). but if you're in for a long term relationship, i don't think it's a big issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:30 AM
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i think i figured it out. i think US people are much more sexually active than people in my country (Thai). in my country, it's a normal practice for a new partner to have a sexless period for a while (in some cases, years) before they have their first time together. you may find a 32 years old man banging 22 years old university girl gross but if they stay together for a couple years before having sex, that looks more tolerable, right ? since both are working adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:11 AM
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i just follow this sub's hypothesis. i mean if she really cares about you, she wouldn't just sleep around with whoever and leave you working yourself up alone in the time you need someone to be on your side, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:01 AM
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probably cultural difference but for me 5 years is nothing. my parents' age gap is 7 and they're boomers. gold digger is not a bigger issue when you have to pick between younger and older ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:55 AM
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you still get a better deal than settling down with an older woman who couldn't care less about you in the past anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:49 AM
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nah... you can have LTRs with younger girls. look at Mr. Nick Cage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:45 AM
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a bit over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:43 AM
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