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People in general love talking about traveling. It's some of the purest and happiest memories folks have because you're experiencing new things and essentially paying to have zero responsibilities. Someone else cleans your hotel room, cooks your food, guides you around the city, etc., etc. This makes it a topic people love to talk about. If you do enjoy traveling and just haven't got a chance yet, just say that and that you enjoy hearing their stories. Then truly talk about and be engaged with t…
/r/seduction15/06/24 12:57 AM
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Having a different view and not wanting to date people in that culture is fine and perfectly acceptable. That doesn't change that you come off as kinda judgemental and hypercritical about it. You'd probably be better off and have a much bigger dating pool if you accepted that many people have experimental phases like this in their past and being ok with that. Just don't date someone who's currently in it. Or if that's completely unacceptable, just acknowledge and accept you've severely limited y…
/r/seduction29/10/22 10:11 PM
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There's not a quick or easy answer. It takes years of hard work for most. Here's a few rough steps but you have to do the work for your situation. Do a little bit of introspection and identify both things you're good at or have interest in learning. Identify which of those also align with well paying jobs. Start building that skill through whatever means it takes. University, working shit jobs in industry to start moving up, boot camps, online courses, whatever. Keep working hard, gaining skills…
/r/seduction29/10/22 06:02 PM
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Your list itself is pretty normal other than the thot part where you sound super judgemental and probably still bitter about your ex. Particularly the thot part; I get that it's probably the attitude part of attention seeking that you don't like but still. Where are you looking? The girl you described WILL NOT be in a bar or large social gathering. Join a book club or church. And, if you keep attracting the wrong type, you should probably examine what activities and actions and signals you're pu…
/r/seduction29/10/22 02:42 PM
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Happy to have helped! I think you're spot on for the conversation part. Tattoos send a very strong signal since they are expensive in most senses. Literally in dollars expensive, time-consuming to get for anything decently sized or detailed and literally painful. Just keep that in mind, especially for a first, I'd recommend that it's something meaningful to you and consider what message it's sending. I don't think I'd recommend it if conversation starter is the main goal. There's better solution…
/r/seduction29/10/22 02:22 PM
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You have to think for yourself on this one. Some canned lines or internet jokes that don't align with whatever conversation made the woman interested in the first place aren't going to work.
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:07 AM
6

Seriously, how fragile is this dude's ego if he can't even comprehend social activities that aren't the stereotype of 'manly'.
/r/seduction16/10/22 02:53 PM
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If you're dating a girl that doesn't like you enough to stay loyal for one night in a club, those dudes did you a favor by stealing her.
/r/seduction14/10/22 09:49 PM
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You're not going to turn off your biological impulses. They're quite literally coded into 500,000 years of evolution and if you want the best women you'll always need to seek them out. Just learn to control your impulses and willpower.
/r/seduction04/10/22 03:16 AM
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The places I go during the day anyway.
/r/seduction04/10/22 02:49 AM
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I think this is spot on for first impressions or hook-ups. There's definitely more too it though when it comes to long term relationships.
/r/seduction01/10/22 07:45 PM
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Dude, I literally said that professional photos will be better 100% of the time as long as they don't look unnatural. Who took it has nothing to do with why I don't like the photo you linked for a dating app.
/r/seduction26/09/22 05:19 AM
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Probably not what I would go with, personally, but it doesn't give off an over trying photoshoot vibe
/r/seduction25/09/22 03:49 PM
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Only if they are unnatural and look like you're trying for a model shoot or something. Professional photos of the right kind will 100% be better in quality and composition.
/r/seduction25/09/22 03:00 PM
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It's the same signs if she's interested in general. It's a huge topic though, just do some research on signs of interest, body language, communication, etc. There's lots of info out there
/r/seduction24/09/22 10:16 PM
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Lol
/r/seduction24/09/22 10:13 PM
15

You did great! You'll see them all around again so you can either talk to them individually or as a group depending on where you run into them. You could also invite them to join you and friends for lunch or some other event.
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:55 PM
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If you're getting cockblocked by their friends you're doing something wrong.
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:54 PM
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Re-evaluate, as in clearly you read her signals wrong. So what signals is she sending you? Is she not actually interested? Is she interested but you're just going to fast? Is there something about the situation you're missing?
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:49 PM
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What's the context? But regardless, you should back off for a bit and reevaluate
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:39 PM
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If it was your first ever date and she's still texting you, I think you did pretty well. It does sound like she's not that interested in continuing though. Either stop texting and see if she gets back to you or just ask her out again to find the final answer. Dating takes time to learn and calibrate socially, that was an awesome first step!
/r/seduction24/09/22 03:30 PM
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I believe you that you have your shit together. I was talking about the poster above. Nothing to do with the guy you went on a date with. Women control access to sex. Men control access to relationships. Both sexes often use this to get what they want from the other. In your case, the guy wanted sex and bailed once he got it while using the promise of a relationship to get there (which is shitty imo). On a side note, NYC is probably the best place in the country to be an educated man dating and …
/r/seduction23/09/22 09:26 PM
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I wouldn't put to much weight on this thread. This is probably the worst place to look for understanding on Reddit. There's smart and adjusted guys here but there are FAR more who are bitter and angry at women in general.
/r/seduction23/09/22 09:06 PM
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Everything that guy says is spot on up to the sex part. All that stuff you list are the main benefit of a relationship so I think you'll be fine there.
/r/seduction23/09/22 09:03 PM
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She probably meant it in the moment. Then you left and reality set in that your fling is really ending. No reason not to have a fun overseas trip in my opinion but I think it makes sense if she doesn't want to as well.
/r/seduction23/09/22 05:19 PM
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Ok, but I'm a 2 and I don't want to change anything about my life. How do I get Victoria Secret models to date me? /S
/r/seduction23/09/22 03:44 PM
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Hahaha, never seen it summed up so well.
/r/seduction23/09/22 04:04 AM
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Agree with the other poster. This is probably you just projecting your insecurities. The guy probably was just having fun flirting and making friends. If they're also both younger, that's a bit more expected for them to vibe and be more open too. Who knows what his intentions are. Flirting isn't necessarily cheating to many people.
/r/seduction21/09/22 12:30 AM
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Been there myself. It's definitely hard not to avoid being jealous at times. Occasionally, seeing how others are doing can be useful but just like you said, the real progress needs to be measured against your past self. No real point in being angry or upset about the people who are in the place you'll get to in the future.
/r/seduction18/09/22 06:45 PM
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Shocking news: Most people are average! Hot off the press!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:29 PM
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That's great! Get help too if you need, there's no shame in finding professionals to help out. You'd go to a doctor for a broken leg, do the same for mental health. And I'm not denying looks do matter but if you're not terribly dressed, obese and/or super unhealthy, they are less important than most think.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:24 PM
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Did you not read the second sentence where he said he's heavily depressed and anxious? Spoiler alert even if you don't like it. Women do care about personality and mental health (mostly subconsciously) even for one night stands.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:07 PM
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Dude, you need to fix your own mental health. Heavy depression and anxiety is a huge turn off for women, it's like weighing 450 lbs and being on a Walmart scooter. Honestly, your lack of control of emotions pretty much proves this girl made the right choice. She's not likely getting off on rejecting you, that's your own massive insecurity projecting itself.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:12 PM
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The number one thing is don't fucking talk about it. I don't care how hot she is, how much you want brag to your bros, etc. The moment you talk about, you're the sleazy player who will tell campus about the girl and trash her reputation. This is a huge thing for women. Next, just be honest without being an ass about it. Just in college to have fun or not looking for a commitment. Not, I want to nail everything with legs.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:06 AM
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That's good dude! I'm sure you guys will work out a more natural rhythm as things progress. Sorry, part of this is probably more preemptive to the more toxic/entitled folks on here and not necessarily how I thought you personally are.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:00 AM
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To start, if you both said goodnights and you were last, that doesn't make you texting next a double text. That's just how conversations end. If you texted her once and she ignored it, the next one would be the double text. You have a tempo of every couple days. Just keep going with that. Text her a fun idea for the week tomorrow. I'm sure some guys here will screech about 'If she cares, she'll make time'. It's only half true. I've got a lot of female friends who are grad students, they legitima…
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:45 AM
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Western Oregon and Washington have tons of state and national parks plus big cities. Could you split the difference and live like 30-60 minutes outside one of the bigger cities there? Sure, driving into the city for dates might be a pain but would give you a bigger dating pool and even city people there love hiking and camping so you'll probably still have plenty of hobbies in common. If you're Christian, go to church! One of the best aspects of religion is the community it provides. Find a chur…
/r/seduction17/09/22 05:01 PM
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Dude, you sound like an asshole cause you automatically assumed their bimbos because they're blonde and are using it as an excuse for why you didn't talk to them. Everyone can have preferences, that's perfectly fine to prefer black hair.
/r/seduction11/09/22 03:58 PM
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Yes, you sound like a total asshole on that one.
/r/seduction11/09/22 03:49 PM
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Yes, I quoted you your own, visible comment. Either way, I'm not here to debate language semantics so have a good one.
/r/seduction11/09/22 09:13 AM
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Because of all the negative connotations of the porn industry. It has nothing to do with body count.
/r/seduction11/09/22 07:00 AM
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So I'm going to assume the answer is no. Height is not a corollary since it's not something you can control.
/r/seduction11/09/22 06:57 AM
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Are you keeping a low body count for yourself? If yes, it's fine to have that preference and find a woman that shares the belief. If not, this is hypocrisy at its best.
/r/seduction11/09/22 06:25 AM
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Yes, but what you said is this post fails to address a new, unrelated topic that the post isn't about. What I'm saying is this entire post OP threw up only applies to men. That's the entitlement women get. There's no one talking about Beef Wellington (women's entitlement) in the item you pointed to, it's purely Chinese food (men's issues). If you'd like to expand the topic to include that in the comments it's a natural expansion but don't complain the original thing didn't have it when that wasn…
/r/seduction11/09/22 06:16 AM
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Well, the first step is not running away from the girls who come to talk to you. Everyone here has been a clueless teen too though so don't feel too bad. If it happens again, the correct response is just a humble thanks and then start a conversation. If the shirt has some special meaning, that's an excellent starting point. If not, really anything is fine. What was the last school event? Or some crazy weather? Or whatever big news in your home town? Etc.
/r/seduction11/09/22 04:36 AM
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This is a defacto men's forum (even if it's technically public) and OP wrote the post to address men. Of course the post only applies to men. No where does it say women only need to exist in a relationship. Would you go to a Chinese restaurant and try to order a French Beef Wellington? Honestly, the same exact advice also applies to women and this post could easily be rewritten to be gender neutral or have the genders reversed.
/r/seduction11/09/22 01:59 AM
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Yeah, the anonymity of the internet and the numerous bitter people here (plus plentiful bad advice leading to dead ends) sadly doesn't lead to a particularly pleasant place. It's also because so many people post here for help and then refuse to accept any advice given that doesn't fit whatever incorrect view they have. End of the day, it's the internet so you have to be able to let most of it go. Honestly, you'd probably be better off finding some form of men's group or meetup in person.
/r/seduction11/09/22 01:51 AM
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I guess I either don't understand then what you're saying about entitlement or don't really agree. There's tons of men and women currently that are entitled, it doesn't seem to be a gendered issue. Men's self-improvement literally and advice is more in your face though so if you're mainly looking at that, I can see where the impression might come from.
/r/seduction11/09/22 12:56 AM
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I fully understand and emphasize with them. That also doesn't mean that it's acceptable or not a problem that requires fixing. I also don't agree women are handed everything on a silver platter. That's only true if you limit to the topic sex. Bitter and lower quality women are definitely not getting to the top of the dating pool for more meaningful relationships that most want.
/r/seduction10/09/22 11:59 PM
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Sounds like you're on the right track! Keep at it, it takes time for the mind to catch up too and there will still be bad days in-between. It took me years to really tackle all these things. There's plenty of fun and friends and dating to be had along the way.
/r/seduction10/09/22 08:42 PM
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That's a big topic to handle... The short (also not practically useful answer) is to build your self esteem and self worth. Useless background info out of the way, here's a few more practical steps: *Get in Shape. Physical activity increases both mental and physical health. Your body functions better, you feel better, your brain produces more dopamine, and much more. Cause I know someone will attack me if I don't specify, you don't need huge muscles or to be a total gym bro. Just generally healt…
/r/seduction10/09/22 08:11 PM
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Seriously, the positive effects of being in shape are absurd. You don't have to be some jacked gym bro either. Just an average healthy weight and able to climb a few flights of stairs without sounding like freight train ascending Everest.
/r/seduction10/09/22 07:50 PM
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I suppose it does functionally lead to the blind leading case many times but yeah, the fuck boy thing is also stupid. Besides them giving bad advice, they are also just getting fuck girls most of the time which aren't most guys type anyway.
/r/seduction10/09/22 06:48 PM
2

Maybe if you buy his e-book he'll tell you 🤡
/r/seduction10/09/22 06:29 PM
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Same but I think it's fair to acknowledge that most people who learn enough to be successful do leave. That gives us a mix of mostly the new blind plus the bitter types who can't/won't get better, a few people with good insight and lot's of coach/marketer/scammer types.
/r/seduction10/09/22 06:26 PM
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I'd argue that there's a lot of things you can do that make women attracted to you. The problem is they are not a direct solution and this sub doesn't want anything that's not a magic bullet. Also, why so many of the people here are so susceptible to the marketing and scams peddled here.
/r/seduction10/09/22 06:23 PM
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Tried to explain the bitterness thing to so many people here. It's definitely spot on. If you're carrying around that bitter and resentful attitude, I guarantee that others can pick up on it even if it's unsaid.
/r/seduction10/09/22 06:13 PM
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That one always gets me too! Hard to resist the eroticism of all that beef around.
/r/seduction10/09/22 01:01 AM
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It sounds like this one is at least curious about you but there's not a real answer to this question. I'll list a few reasons I can think of though: Attracted Mustard on your shirt Thinks you hot Thinks your hideous You have a funny shirt A tattoo Being on fire Her friend is behind you You're in front at a concert You look like her dad You have a bloody nose You arms look great You're missing a tooth She's looking around for her friend Your face is being eaten by a bear You're making out with an…
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:21 PM
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Happy to help!
/r/seduction09/09/22 08:46 PM
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I think the last part is thought to be understood but definitely agree that it should be a constant reminder in these topics because many people first finding these books don't have any social calibration on what's actually socially acceptable. As a caution, it's important to remember, most people selling this type of content are probably closer to MLMs or Guru scams than people truly wanting to help. Lot's of desperate guys that people are happy to take money from. There's plenty of people prom…
/r/seduction09/09/22 08:09 PM
1

I'm not sure what this guy is on about. High value people want the same thing in long term relationships all over the world.
/r/seduction09/09/22 07:48 PM
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That's a great book but it's written in a fairly aggressive way since that's marketing so you should either trash it or take it with a grain of salt. What this is trying to say is that you need to make your intentions clear both verbally and physically. Obviously, you have to do this in an intelligent and socially calibrated way to not be creepy.
/r/seduction09/09/22 07:40 PM
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I'm giving up on this but anyway, hope you figure it out my friend.
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:50 AM
1

Unless you're dating incredibly dumb women, you don't need to bluntly tell her you're attracted to her. Flirting IS the socially intelligent way to convey that message. Do you think girls are too dumb to not understand telling her she has a great dress or fun vibe isn't you being interested? If you want to force her to reject you so you can move and feel better about your ego, then I guess it works to be blunt but that's a bad strategy all around. You'll mostly give off creepy vibes doing it unl…
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:03 AM
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Lol, no. Flirting is not indirect. It signals you're intelligent enough to have fun and joke with each other. Plus, it builds tension.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:35 AM
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Lol, what? This just in running isn't how you play basketball.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:03 AM
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Seriously, most people end up here looking for help and then immediately reject the idea that they might have been the problem and there was a good reason all these women refuse to interact with them. If you're so great and perfect, why are you here?
/r/seduction06/09/22 10:59 PM
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I know the answer is he didn't ever think ahead but like what's the end game with 4" inserts if you want a real relationship. Eventually you're going to be alone at home together. Are you going to wear platform slippers all the time and shower in huge flip flops like you're in a crusty hostel?
/r/seduction05/09/22 06:21 AM
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It will also very likely make it so you will walk weird and never be able to normally participate in physical activity the rest of your life. Besides being illegal in most Western countries.
/r/seduction05/09/22 06:16 AM
1

So you can use those things to... Change?
/r/seduction05/09/22 05:40 AM
2

Well, you can suffer through change or you can just suffer forever.
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:09 PM
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Dude, go see a fuckin therapist. You understand you have so little self esteem that you don't even think you're worth helping? It's their literal purpose to help people with these issues.
/r/seduction04/09/22 07:36 AM
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Well, it sounds like you're at least on a good path for quite a bit of it at least. Some of it takes time to change things. Usually, confidence and self esteem comes with achieving things so that's helpful. You could always see about finding a therapist to help with the self esteem issues. Most universities provide some help there.
/r/seduction04/09/22 07:20 AM
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Fine, maybe you're a hideous person whose face looks like a jellyfish eating a goblin head and that's why women won't approach you. Does that help? It doesn't change the fact that women typically don't approach men regardless of circumstances. Here's what you do: Fix your self-esteem issues. Build up your self confidence. Eat healthy. Get in shape. Build some work or hobby skills. Start dressing well. Make a good group of friends. Start building a good life. Get yourself on a decent career path.…
/r/seduction04/09/22 07:02 AM
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Spot on. I am glad this is a place will call you out on that though.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:47 AM
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People don't successfully hide stuff like this. If you were hiding it successfully, wouldn't the opposite of your experience be true? Women would approach you and men would want you around. Look dude, you can work on improving yourself to have a better life and success or not. Honestly, even though I'd like to help you, I don't really care. It's your choice.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:43 AM
2

I think what always confuses me is that people ask questions and then just refuse to accept the answer. Maybe I'm too much of a scientist but, why ask if you didn't want to know?
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:33 AM
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I have been in your shoes. I understand you feel that way. I can fairly confidently say your attitude and self-pity is the majority of the problem. No one wants that kind of person in their life. They drag you down and you feel bad and drained after being around them. I also know it's difficult. I have sympathy for that. It took me years to fix. Fix yourself first. Success follows after.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:30 AM
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Yeah, I just hope that it's initial resistance and they eventually come around. It's not so easy to accept hard truths especially if they mean you have to put huge effort into fixing it. And if not, well, fuck em. They are just internet strangers at the end of the day. A bit frustrating to argue but it's not my life they're going to mess up.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:15 AM
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No dude, it's not at all obvious. Though the self-pity would be my assumption.
/r/seduction04/09/22 06:11 AM
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Do they truly not want you around or is that how you feel because of your self-pity? Both are fixable, they just have different solutions.
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:57 AM
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Yeah, I completely agree. To be honest, I was trying to be a bit blunt intentionally to try and drive that point home.
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:55 AM
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I'm implying you're narcissistic because you're immediately dismissing all the help people are trying to give you and just repeating Woe is Me. Sorry, if that's harsh but I want you to understand dismissing the insight people are trying to give you isn't helping your cause. You're not going to like this answer but it's this: You're not. If you continue with the attitude you have, you aren't going to be successful asking a girl out and honestly she should turn down a man who will drag her life do…
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:53 AM
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This whole community exists because other men have had this problem. Have accumulated a bunch of knowledge and want to spread it to others to help. How narcissistic do you have to be to think that you're the only one? I was 100 lbs overweight and had no idea how to ask a girl out at your age. The world is unfair, let's accept that and move on. Men need to get their life together and pursue women and the other things we want. Start doing that, eat healthy, exercise, cultivate some interests and s…
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:37 AM
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Been there, it's absolutely worth it. Honestly, there's probably no single other topic to help you get ahead in life than improving social skills. Work, friendships, dating, shopping, parties, etc. all improved.
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:30 AM
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Dude, that's the way it's been for humans for like 200,000 years of evolution. We can all agree that it shouldn't be that way in modern times BUT it still is. You can accept that and move forward with an active understanding, knowledge and plan or not and keep going how you are. Is the latter leading you to a happy fulfilling life?
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:27 AM
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Seriously?! I mean, a little envy/jealousy between friends is normal on occasion but if you're "friends" truly don't want to see you successful in life. Dump them faster than if you got catfished by Rosie O'Donnell using ScarJo pics
/r/seduction04/09/22 05:06 AM
1

I'm not OP so I have no idea. Just stating it's very possible that it's just a true statement.
/r/seduction04/09/22 03:04 AM
1

Personally, no. I wouldn't bother with someone who would be constantly embarrassing and a source of stress out in public. Platonic friend or dating for that matter.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:25 AM
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It's not necessarily bad self esteem if it's true and a reflection of reality. Some people are conventionally ugly even if it's an unpleasant reality. I used to be like 40 kilos overweight. It was just a fact that it made me unattractive.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:23 AM
1

That only prevents you from one of the listed options. Even then, you can still hang out in friends dorms.
/r/seduction01/09/22 09:53 PM
1

I do know where we can get a tiger... Lol, that doesn't sound like the most pleasant experiment. Happy to help! It took me awhile to get something simple down that works well so just keep experimenting.
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:42 AM
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We already did it on roaches. Step up with the mad science already! I want to be able to make an ENTRANCE when we show up somewhere. Definitely skip neurons and anything overly technical. Imagine you're explaining it to an average sixth grader (not even a smart tot). Like 5 sentences is what you want. Bonus point 1: relating it to something in daily life. Bonus point 2: slip a joke in there. If they actually care about any of the details or have related knowledge, they'll ask a follow-up questio…
/r/seduction31/08/22 03:12 AM
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I'd be like: tell me how my brain works?!?!! Can we hotwire a tiger to let us ride it? I think people just don't know how to relate more than anything. I've got my 30 second elevator pitch to explain my job perfected and that usually helps to give context and just move on. Yeah, I've got a number of PhD scientist friends and I'm not envious of the process to get there. At least they pay junior engineers decently well.
/r/seduction31/08/22 01:45 AM
5

For the fat guys out there, losing weight actually does make your dick effectively bigger.
/r/seduction31/08/22 12:25 AM
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Similar for engineer, just got 'Wow, you must be smart..." I guess sorta but mostly just a normal guy who worked at something a lot.
/r/seduction31/08/22 12:23 AM
0

So ~2.5x for the national average salary for an Aero engineer is bad pay?
/r/seduction31/08/22 12:20 AM
4

Personally, this exact line would go TERRIBLY with many of the girls I've dated but the essence is correct. You want to give an answer that acknowledges the situation (you've slept with other women in the past) and that conveys you don't give out many details (ie you won't tell everyone about what you and her do in private). How exactly to communicate those two things doesn't have a single answer. It'll depend on the girl you're talking to and what type of conversation you're having. Is it flirt…
/r/seduction28/08/22 09:35 PM
1

Negging is just an extra douche form of teasing. Teasing has been a part of dating for 1000s of years.
/r/seduction25/08/22 10:55 PM
1

How is this double standards? Someone made an untrue, rude comment and people are telling OP to reject it. The same would be absolutely the same if it was a woman that got insulted with an untrue, rude comment.
/r/seduction25/08/22 10:17 PM
1

LA is a great first place to visit. Plus if all else goes bad, there's amazing food and beaches to chill on. Recommend trying out surfing too if you get a chance. It should be easy enough to grab a cheap flight to Vegas from there or even pick up a rental car for a couple days. Being older helps too in my opinion. You have a much better feeling for yourself and what you want in life. Rather than chasing whatever shiny thing goes by.
/r/seduction22/08/22 09:11 PM
1

I know quite a few Europeans in the States. Sounds like you'll be absolutely fine! I wouldn't worry about the slang at all. Even Americans get lost on it occasionally and it's not even consistent across the country. New York City and Los Angeles will have notable differences for instance. Just ask for clarification if necessary. Urban Dictionary, while hilarious at times, is mostly weird niche terms that 99.9% of people never hear in real life. There's terms specific to my small university for e…
/r/seduction22/08/22 08:11 PM
2

That's true but an average looking dude can change to being a troll-frog mashup if they have bad pictures or as standout cute with good ones.
/r/seduction21/08/22 11:32 PM
13

British or Aussie is probably the best. Austrian will do well too. You could probably even make the Arnold thing a joke. Like your hear to find your lost uncle or something. I think it really only becomes a detriment if you can't have a fluent conversation in English. Judging by your writing though, that's probably not a huge concern.
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:41 PM
38

Scandinavians don't talk to other Scandinavians. Being a foreigner is the perfect excuse for them to break their norms and talk to you. Also, obviously, if your in a bar/club/social place it's expected to be more open.
/r/seduction21/08/22 09:37 PM
4

Well, this dude seems to have no understanding of women's perspective so it's not really surprising that it went poorly. It's perfectly fine to have preferences and to communicate in a healthy manner but if you really want to be good with women and have successful relationships, you should also be able to empathize and understand their perspective.
/r/seduction21/08/22 05:03 PM
2

This is a great summary. It always baffles me that this is so hard for men to understand. It's not like it's a personal insult to you as an individual man that women have this experience and you, personally, may be treating a woman amazingly. It still doesn't change her experience with broader society.
/r/seduction21/08/22 04:57 PM
3

I'm a dude but her response is pretty much spot on. You may be young and not fully understand it and that's ok. This is still a great summary of the issue women face and why not understanding is why your other posts were treated harshly. Just because you don't like or understand it yet, doesn't make it not true. Btw, no matter how you do this and I think you could do it before going down first but that's really only a tidbit you WILL be hurting her feelings and driving some insecurities about ho…
/r/seduction21/08/22 04:54 PM
1

Well, dude, I don't know what to tell you but change only happens through hard work and sacrifice so keep at it.
/r/seduction17/08/22 12:51 AM
1

Huh? Lots of people are charismatic and charming in their day-to-day life. You can also be perfectly authentic looking for sex too. It's when you're not truthful about intentions that it becomes unauthentic.
/r/seduction16/08/22 06:40 PM
3

Same, it almost sounds like the business/general life version of No More Mr. Nice Guy. Might give it a read. Working on rereading Mate at the moment.
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:08 AM
0

Lol
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:39 AM
1

Get advice from men AND women. Both offer valuable insights and perspectives.
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:04 PM
6

No More Mr Nice Guy should be required reading for pretty much everyone new here. I'll have to check out Disease to Please.
/r/seduction15/08/22 10:59 PM
34

A genuinely nice guy is what women want. A "nice guy" in the pejorative means manipulative and entitled. Honestly, you probably come off like you're lying and being inauthentic when your being your player self. This manipulative/fake feel is a HUGE red flag to women and rightfully so.
/r/seduction15/08/22 10:43 PM
1

I think people are way over analyzing. Particularly during Covid, I had video calls with girls that I'd consider a date. What else do you call it if you both scheduled time to talk and flirt and get to know each other? Long distance relationships often consider videochats dates too. I really don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape by the phrasing.
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:47 AM
1

How else do you interact with someone on Instagram?
/r/seduction15/08/22 12:39 AM
0

I'd think it's safe to assume that means chatting/texting/videochat.
/r/seduction14/08/22 11:42 PM
19

Seriously, or something like, I'm continuing my travels and can't keep up with everyone. It's just life situation when traveling.
/r/seduction14/08/22 05:20 PM
1

Are you really wondering where a social media app and direct message platform comes in when meeting and talking to people?
/r/seduction14/08/22 05:18 PM
2

Technically, that's correct. In practice, I disagree. If you were pretty much guaranteed to get a flat tire going to Fred's Grocery but Susan's Food Mart would be a normal errand, which store would you pick?
/r/seduction13/08/22 02:01 PM
5

This insight is pretty much the thing that most guys here are missing about cold approach. Taking the time to figure out who's actually approachable will pay SO many dividends. Just take 30 seconds to pay attention to anything other than, hot girl tm. And yeah, you'll get it wrong occasionally but it's still so much more effective than the blindfolded shotgun approach.
/r/seduction13/08/22 01:15 AM
11

You'll have much better luck engaging people who aren't focused on something. Ordering, looking around, grabbing water, etc. Otherwise, the first thing you're doing is interrupting something they're focused on.
/r/seduction12/08/22 06:07 PM
17

Personally, I'm pretty confident and have decent self esteem but have no options at the moment. I have no options cause I'm busy at work, starting another degree and reconnecting with some old friends. IDGAF, if I don't have any options at the snap of a finger. When I want that, I'll get around to doing the things that create options.
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:01 PM
1

Reviews seem ok online as a whole. I'm sure there's good and bad employees there like every company though. Insurance part sucks. Honestly dude, it seems like you don't want to get help since you shoot down everyone's ideas. The point is there are online, video chat and phone resources these days that you can absolutely take advantage of from anywhere. You're not limited to whatever tiny town options you have. If you don't like a particular service, there's plenty of others and many therapists t…
/r/seduction11/08/22 07:32 PM
1

Nope, you're right. No one has ever made any achievement or improvement or anything after 30.
/r/seduction10/08/22 02:35 AM
1

Gotcha, that sucks. Maybe you can switch to an online one like Betterhelp? No clue if it's good but have heard positive things.
/r/seduction09/08/22 03:57 AM
2

Lol, imagine thinking your and women's life are over at 30
/r/seduction09/08/22 03:14 AM
1

Are you honestly engaging with your therapist? If yes and it's not helping, get a new one. You wouldn't go to a dentist who kept fucking up your teeth, therapists are no different.
/r/seduction09/08/22 02:52 AM
1

I completely agree though I do think it's dumb that this board is so set on cold approaches because 99% of the people here are in the bottom half of that clueless 80% portion you mention. Which is fine, they're here to learn but most don't have the skills to figure out what they are doing wrong much less have any success. Most would be much better suited to a softer approach until they are least get a bit of social intelligence down.
/r/seduction07/08/22 07:59 PM
1

We agree it can be useful. That doesn't mean there isn't a better way. Regardless of skill level, why wouldn't you use a more efficient approach? Also, this guy is so bad that security knows who he is so clearly he's not gaining anything useful from the endeavor.
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:26 PM
1

Yes, then it can be useful. However, constant failure and rejection is not typically a good path towards learning any skill.
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:06 PM
2

Practice is only useful if you're gaining something. Failing the same way repeatedly is not useful. There is a HUGE difference between a location where you have something in common or a united purpose. That's not a cold approach.
/r/seduction04/08/22 07:12 PM
1

You do lose your time. Repeating the same mistakes over and over again like this guy isn't a gain. It's not waiting if you're actively putting yourself into situations to meet women. The best women aren't open to dating random dudes on the street and mostly meet them through friends and activities since that's the safe way. But, I know this goes against the bro-science around here so don't really expect many people to listen.
/r/seduction04/08/22 07:04 PM
0

Can I ask why you're so set on cold approach? There's plenty of other (and better) options out there. Social activities and hobbies probably being the best. Don't get caught up in the whole deep end, numbers game thing it's incorrect bs. If I used the same strategy and lost $100 every night playing blackjack, people would think I'm an idiot, not practicing. Try other things, build a social network, explore other avenues of social life and hobbies to gain some confidence and poise. Small wins bui…
/r/seduction04/08/22 07:05 AM
7

If you've had no success to the point security recognizes you... You should probably figure out what you're doing wrong. Numbers aren't going to fix your problem and this is why numbers game is just generally not effective even if the community loves it.
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:20 AM
3

It might not be on purpose but there are definitely TONS of guys who don't know how to properly dress or groom themselves. Just have to be introspective once and a while to figure out if that's you.
/r/seduction04/08/22 03:00 AM
1

That's awesome! Motivation is definitely important. In my experience, you need about a month of motivation to really get it established as a habit. Good, long term habits are the most powerful for true change.
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:06 PM
1

I guess but sometimes you got to take the plunge on those things. Plus, there are typically plenty of options that don't require such a big commitment.
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:04 AM
1

I'm on the opposite end of this spectrum, signing up and having that specific place to be in the workout mindset motivates me to go in a way that I'd not achieve at home. No right answer though!
/r/seduction25/07/22 01:27 AM
1

I think this is spot on! I've pretty much seen the same in my experience though most of the men who stay with that mindset get eventually removed from my social circle if they aren't on a path to get better. I'm thrilled to help friends when I can but I have enough stuff to deal with that I don't need toxic mindsets dragging me down.
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:57 PM
6

Exactly, this is mostly a place for either beginners or younger men to gain some guidance. For them, some basic guidelines are important cause they aren't going to succeed in a highly complex or difficult social situation anyway so the 'rules' provide a safer zone. Also, I always find it baffling your other comment about doing the work to be a top man is down voted. No one would second guess that it takes a shitload of practice to be the best Chess player or quarterback but suddenly it's controv…
/r/seduction24/07/22 11:31 PM
1

OPs advice is excellent, though obviously customize the general points with what works for you. If I can offer some advice having done this myself, you can't fix everything at once. If you throw someone who can't swim in the deep end, most will actually just drown. Start easy, pick something you're kinda good at. Build up that skill a bit. It'll be far less frustrating and help build your self confidence. Then pick something related and improve that. Small steps are the true key to success. One …
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:32 PM
2

There's nothing wrong with casual dating. It's only being dishonest about your intentions that's the problem.
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:19 PM
2

Hey, my friend, I think you're on a great path forward but may be asking the wrong questions. It's about figuring out what you want in life as a whole. I know that's an unactionable statement so here's a more practical exercise. Imagine you're on your deathbed, what have you achieved in life you're proud of, who's with you, etc. That's the starting marker. Now repeat this for mid-life and after that 5 years from now. What do you want to see or where to be at each? There's no right or wrong answe…
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:19 PM
1

I completely standby my viewpoint. I just don't see the benefit of arguing it. Neither of us is going to change the other's opinion so it's a waste of time.
/r/seduction17/11/17 08:59 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/seduction17/11/17 06:59 AM
2

Lol, alrighty man. You do your thing. I'm very glad I don't live in your world and am very successful in mine so Cie la vie!
/r/seduction17/11/17 05:52 AM
3

Heh heh! Anytime!
/r/seduction17/11/17 01:43 AM
4

I wouldn't listen to closely to that guy. Anyone who tells you all women are out to manipulate you for what they want probably doesn't have a very balanced opinion. You'll be way better off in the long run learning to be emotionally intelligent and how to form real connections. Not just getting people to sleep with you. The best stuff to take away from here is how to do some of the lighter non-manipulative flirting, where and how to plan dates, realizing lot's of guys have the same issues and th…
/r/seduction17/11/17 01:27 AM
14

Second No More Mister Nice Guy. The best thing to take away is what are healthy and normal boundaries to have. It's probably something that you haven't learned much about at 19 and I would have loved to learn earlier.
/r/seduction08/11/17 08:56 PM
3

Just move on. Also, if you're truly applying everything you read here. You probably did give off a douchey vibe. Most advice here works great for a certain kind clubby-type girl. Not necessarily others.
/r/seduction02/11/17 03:31 PM
2

Sorry, I read talk about as ice breaker. Ideally you'd move the conversation to something more interesting if you get the vibe she is open to talking to you further than your opening question/statement. I'd also like to say, leading is not the same as talking a lot. People generally like talking about themselves and what they like more than listening. The best conversationalists bring that out in other people.
/r/seduction01/11/17 10:46 PM
2

Where's a good place nearby to grab a coffee/sandwich/donut/taco/buttplug/pizza?
/r/seduction01/11/17 08:58 PM
1

Putting on a persona is probably the worst thing you can do on a date. I almost guarantee you're coming off creepy. At best, inauthentic and awkward because you're acting in a way that's not natural to you. On your specific question, negging will absolutely make you come off as an ass to any girl with self confidence or esteem.
/r/seduction30/10/17 06:12 PM
1

You're welcome! Glad I can help
/r/seduction30/10/17 04:18 AM
2

Hey man, back in town. I think if you are forming a lot of friends that's a good sign that you are like-able and people enjoy your company. CONGRATS!!! You're far closer than many people. Dating is like 90% being a well adjusted person with the last small bit being a few specific skills like flirting , body language and sex. My guess is the piece you're missing when it comes to dating is that last 10% on showing that you are romantically/sexually interested. It's a pretty common problem and take…
/r/seduction30/10/17 02:41 AM
1

In my experience, that's not true but I am social and meet a lot of people. It didn't matter how op found out. It's about living up to your own values. Again man, if you want to chase girls who have bfs, go for it. Personally, I don't want the girls who cheat (even with me) in my life. On a practical note though it's way easier, less effort and way less drama to just find single girls.
/r/seduction29/10/17 09:02 PM
6

Haha, I guess you have the angriest writing style of any calm people I know them. Glad it works for you. You absolutely go out compete me for the girls I don't want anyway.
/r/seduction27/10/17 09:59 PM
4

Alright dude. Well, I'm sad your town and experiences turned out so shitty. This is definitely not my experience in either high school, college or now the real world. Hope you work out whatever it is you're looking for and maybe clear up some of the anger.
/r/seduction27/10/17 08:48 PM
2

I think you're headed in the right direction. I can definitely find some tips for you but I want to give it the time it deserves and I'm headed out of town from work this week. Setting a reminder to get back to you Sunday/Monday.
/r/seduction27/10/17 08:47 PM
2

Thanks man!
/r/seduction27/10/17 08:18 PM
3

There's a few things that it could be. It could be you aren't putting out signs you're interested in being more than a friend and they see you as a friend. Probably most likely since you're here and is great. It means you're successfully being a likable, social guy and just have to learn a bit more on flirting and attraction. They're considering if you should be their new bf. Shows you have your skills down if true though maybe not finding the best girls. Then again, most relationships are fairl…
/r/seduction27/10/17 06:38 PM
13

Because having self respect and confidence comes from living up to your own values.
/r/seduction27/10/17 06:28 PM
15

Dude, not sleeping with girls that have boyfriends is perfectly valid. Life isn't only about sleeping with more people. It's also about having standards for yourself.
/r/seduction27/10/17 06:16 PM
1

Why did it need to be one or the other? Sure, maybe being inclined one way or another but having both traits is far better.
/r/seduction26/10/17 05:25 PM
1

Why should it be his job to make some awkward, creepy dude comfortable?
/r/seduction23/10/17 07:32 PM
1

I get why you want that. I really do, having no feedback sucks but honestly this has nothing to do with you. It has to do with how other guys have treated her in the past. They were assholes and everyone pays the price because the girl isn't going to risk that you're not. Go take a look at /r/creepypms or some of the similar subs. It doesn't take long to see why people respond that way.
/r/seduction23/10/17 07:19 PM
10

Have you not seen the harassment and insults girls get when doing that? It shouldn't be a surprise they would like to avoid that.
/r/seduction23/10/17 06:58 PM
3

Fair, I guess I just don't think it needs to be brought up verbally. It's very likely that you'll sound insecure particularly if the girl doesn't agree it's an intrusion. In this specific case, it's perfectly normal to talk to people with outside a coffee shop. Just be friendly but not super warm. Maybe make an inside joke with the girl if you really want to show you're close.
/r/seduction20/10/17 07:31 PM
36

Honestly, this just screams insecurity.
/r/seduction20/10/17 06:10 PM
17

He didn't say to ignore their existence. You need to talk to them positively. If you act grumpy and butthurt that just makes you look bad.
/r/seduction20/10/17 06:08 PM
3

That's just to confuse the commies, if we don't understand what were doing, they sure as fuck don't.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 05:43 AM
3

Awesome! And take it at your own pace. The sub is here to help though I'd take everything here with a bit of salt. Most advice seems to come from a place of hitting on club/bar scene girls and trying to hook up as much as possible.
/r/seduction04/10/17 02:07 AM
2

Ask her out right now! Anything else is just making excuses and the longer you wait the worse your chances.
/r/seduction04/10/17 12:23 AM
1

Same as in person. Jokes, tease, innuendo, double entendre, puns, etc
/r/seduction23/09/17 10:43 PM
2

They matched with you, that's already proof they want to go out. Send a joke, flirt for a couple messages and then just ask.
/r/seduction23/09/17 05:21 PM
1

I guess but most are also a mix of many other things too and can have almost nothing to do with these types.
/r/seduction19/09/17 09:06 PM
3

There are way more than 2 types of people.
/r/seduction19/09/17 07:28 PM
16

Don't over think! If it fits your (and her) style, just go for it. It's not going to hurt anything and will be a sweet gesture. Bonus points if you can pick a small event to celebrate or it's when she's having a bad day.
/r/seduction14/09/17 12:13 PM
3

A ton of things, a few off the top of my head are: book club, hiking, paddle boarding, trivia, volunteering, dancing, cross fit, cooking/photography class.
/r/seduction17/08/17 07:05 PM
2

Find a social hobby. It's probably the best thing you can do for dating and your social life.
/r/seduction17/08/17 06:10 PM
3

That's only if you stay a jester. Goofy jokes can make great ice breakers.
/r/seduction02/08/17 11:19 PM
1

Why say hi then?
/r/seduction22/06/17 03:46 AM
1

Why do you still pay attention to her?
/r/seduction21/06/17 09:33 PM
0

Well, at least the dickish bants are amusing this morning.
/r/seduction13/06/17 02:50 PM
0

Lol, ok. Or perhaps we live in different cultures and meet different people.
/r/seduction13/06/17 02:37 PM
4

I agree with what you're saying about texting and it absolutely used to be standard PUA advice. However, this was when smartphones and texting were new. These days, I think calls are much more likely to make someone uncomfortable and signal a lack of social intelligence.
/r/seduction13/06/17 01:06 AM
3

Depending on your age, calling is very weird. No one expects calls anymore and you're likely going to make them uncomfortable.
/r/seduction12/06/17 10:11 PM
2

That would work well. I'd suggest the ones going in the same direction as you so you're not asking people to stop. The summit is great too. Hiking meetups are also a good place to meet a group of people to go with or possibly dates.
/r/seduction06/06/17 09:10 PM
1

There were statistics that showed playing WoW was as likely to lead to a relationship as online dating. It's like any hobby where you spend a lot of time and meet people. That tends to lead to relationships.
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:55 PM
9

Groups are great or just bring some friends and talk to the other groups of hikers.
/r/seduction06/06/17 08:52 PM
2

Usually by the time you've gotten to the advanced stages, you'll probably have learned better resources.
/r/seduction18/05/17 11:39 PM
2

NP, feel free to send me a message with any future questions.
/r/seduction16/05/17 03:11 PM
2

Awesome, keep it up and you'll get that last step too. Remember that it takes practice and time to learn.
/r/seduction16/05/17 06:00 AM
1

That you have to portray some form of romantic interest or a girl will not fall for you. Whether that's subconscious and inbuilt or something you learn or consciously here.
/r/seduction15/05/17 04:32 PM
1

Alright, well maybe there's language barrier or something but you do your thing and I hope it works out.
/r/seduction13/05/17 02:18 PM
1

We don't live in the caveman era so the lack of societal pressure at that point isn't particularly relevant. Whether it's a natural ability or you learn it through practice doesn't matter. You can abandon everything here and go learn from direct experience. I think you'll find that flirting and showing attraction is required. This is just a short cut, it draws off the knowledge of those who have gone before. If I can ask a question. If you don't believe any of this stuff works, why are you here …
/r/seduction13/05/17 06:35 AM
2

Approaching her is the first step but it won't get you to the finish line. You need to show continued interest and mutually build that interest. You build trust and a relationship together.
/r/seduction13/05/17 06:29 AM
1

Exactly, so you need to show your intentions to her so she knows and will be happy to kiss you. If you do not, she will feel upset that her platonic (non-romantic) friend kissed her because she will not be interested in you romantically.
/r/seduction13/05/17 02:50 AM
2

How does she know you want to kiss her?
/r/seduction13/05/17 01:10 AM
1

That can happen but if it works that means you have been portraying that interest anyway (whether consciously or subconsciously). If you don't portray any interest, how would you end up kissing?
/r/seduction13/05/17 12:55 AM
1

If your subconscious is doing that, it means you are also doing that. The whole point of this sub is to understand what many people do subconsciously and learn how to improve on that. (Or make it subconscious as most people here don't have that skill)
/r/seduction12/05/17 10:25 PM
7

If you don't make your intentions clear early on, you end up a just a friend. And it's entirely your fault because you portrayed yourself as a friend. It might help to think of it more as you need to portray romantic/sexual interest quickly. This sets the frame of your relationship as love interests. You don't have to push that to sex or a physical relationship quickly.
/r/seduction12/05/17 10:03 PM
2

Fair, I think we largely agree. I guess my main point is you need to clearly display interest and build rapport in some manner quickly. I think the "cute" comment is so popular here because we're largely on a forum for beginners and this is an easy example line to start with. Anyone can use it relatively simply which is actually great for starting out. Beginners largely need instructions like "do this" before they gain some confidence and can interpret advise like my first paragraph.
/r/seduction09/05/17 05:48 PM
2

I think there's a large difference between You are beautiful and You are cute. The first puts a huge amount of focus and value on looks. The latter is really only a small compliment that is mostly ignores and frames the whole interaction with it clear you're interested. Don't dwell on it and move the conversation in a normal way after and it's a fantastic opener. The problem with something like How's it going? Is you have to inject some sort of sign or obvious flirting quickly anyway or they're …
/r/seduction09/05/17 02:58 PM
1

Honestly, pretty close to zero as long as I have time for the date within 3 to 5 days. I think I'm 5/5 in the last month or so.
/r/seduction04/05/17 07:21 PM
1

Admittedly, I'm probably on the low end but you can definitely scale that back. Usually, I have like 5-15 sort of conversational messages. The another 5 or so to trade numbers, figure out where/when to meet, etc.
/r/seduction04/05/17 06:30 PM
1

My usual online messages with a girl total 10 to 15 before meeting up. There's no real need to have prolonged charts.
/r/seduction04/05/17 06:20 PM
1

That's a very good way to put it.
/r/seduction02/05/17 11:37 PM
2

If it's like the Nordic countries, most people are at house parties because going out is insanely expensive and they are a bit shy about meeting true strangers.
/r/seduction02/05/17 07:28 PM
2

That's awesome though foreigners tend to get more of a pass on these norms. Plus, most of Europe looks at Americans as very outgoing meaning you probably lived up to her exact expectations. Expectations would be different for a local.
/r/seduction02/05/17 06:49 PM
1

Perhaps there's a language gap here. Are you just not using the word "date" our are you not asking to see them again at all?
/r/seduction28/04/17 11:32 PM
2

I think you're over analyzing. It doesn't really matter what verbiage you use as long as you're both clear on the intention.
/r/seduction28/04/17 10:32 PM
1

There isn't much you can do about height. Just be confident and treat it as a non-issue. If you're insecure about it, that will definitely be seen negatively. If you're comfortable, it's mostly neutral/not a big deal.
/r/seduction28/04/17 09:25 PM
4

Honestly, yes. You are at a disadvantage because of your age. Older guys will have advantages over you, probably a better job, their own place (or at least not parents), more freedom, etc. That doesn't mean you shouldn't go approach but you'll be best off with girls near your age and still in high school.
/r/seduction25/04/17 11:54 PM
3

What? How is coffee even relevant to masculinity?
/r/seduction24/04/17 07:45 PM
2

Do you eat a lot of carrots?
/r/seduction24/04/17 07:44 PM
1

Strong eye contact is a pretty good sign. IMO, I doubt this approach is a particularly good one. Just don't think it's creepy.
/r/seduction18/04/17 02:02 AM
2

Why would it be creepy?
/r/seduction18/04/17 12:56 AM
2

One of my favorite first dates is coffee or a drink, then a walk in a nearby park/beach/town.
/r/seduction17/04/17 10:52 PM
2

Thanks man, and at the end of the day. I agree high stakes, high reward is good sometimes but at least in my personal experience a medium risk approach pays off best. Like high 1:10, Medium 3:10. Cuts down on having to play massive numbers game.
/r/seduction15/04/17 02:28 AM
1

Fair enough premise I suppose.
/r/seduction15/04/17 02:06 AM
0

How does that have anything to do with insecurities?
/r/seduction15/04/17 01:36 AM
0

Sure, but that's a dumb strategy when others are more effective.
/r/seduction14/04/17 11:01 PM
1

Gas?
/r/seduction14/04/17 08:39 PM
5

This would be far better to use after making small talk and building some rapport. I'm sure it works well when it works but seems highly hit or miss to me.
/r/seduction14/04/17 08:22 PM
1

Ok, just trying to add some motivation. I will. Yours too if you don't approach.
/r/seduction13/04/17 09:52 PM
1

Like twice?
/r/seduction13/04/17 09:33 PM
1

Nothing is certain but the past is definitely a good predictor of the future.
/r/seduction13/04/17 09:28 PM
1

"I don't approach girls." Same comment.
/r/seduction13/04/17 09:19 PM
1

Lol, I don't need to know you. You said it yourself that you don't approach. 0 effort is 0 results.
/r/seduction13/04/17 06:31 PM
1

Most people never start and never reach their potential. You'll just be one of the many.
/r/seduction13/04/17 04:34 PM
5

That's a terrible reason not to approach. You know how to get good enough to not be rejected? Approach enough girls so you have experience doing it.
/r/seduction12/04/17 12:19 AM
1

I get where you're coming from but this post isn't helpful. It's a bit like a professional archer telling someone who's never picked up a bow: Just shoot the bullseye. People are here because their life experience didn't give them the answer to those questions. Will the intellectual knowledge actually solve their problem? No, but it's good starting point to gaining the experience necessary. I don't fix my car without reading the repair manual first.
/r/seduction15/03/17 07:00 PM
1

Find a new boss/company?
/r/seduction06/03/17 05:04 PM
6

Seriously, living that way must be absolutely exhausting.
/r/seduction03/03/17 07:42 PM
6

I'm not saying trust a stranger with your life savings but not trusting anyone is a super cynical and depressing way to live.
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:56 PM
21

Trusting people is usually good. But if someone blatantly demonstrates to you multiple times they're not trustworthy. Fuck that, you don't that shit in your life.
/r/seduction03/03/17 04:33 PM
11

Yeah, lots of it. Probably 2 or 3 people's worth.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/01/17 07:08 AM
3

The first 2 are good. Not sure WTF is up with the last one.
/r/seduction27/12/16 05:52 PM
5

You should do both! One will help with confidence for the other.
/r/seduction26/12/16 03:40 AM
2

In general, Americans talk to everyone. Waiting in line, talk to the person next to me. Getting coffee, chat with the barista while it's made. DMV, commiserate and bitch to fellow patrons (butter up staff for better service). Etc, etc. The benefit is no one is bothered by talking to new people. The downside is that everyone is used to meaningless conversation so you have to really standout to make an impression.
/r/seduction23/12/16 08:22 PM
1

I don't think the looks thing is accurate though I'm sure it depends on which part of Europe to which part of the U.S. we compare. In my experience it's been the opposite.
/r/seduction23/12/16 08:16 PM
16

I doubt that's even a top 100 for regular drivers.
/r/seduction23/12/16 07:42 PM
2

That's just if you lock your knees and stay stationery.
/r/seduction20/12/16 08:38 PM
2

Or you know, talk to him about it.
/r/seduction15/12/16 01:36 AM
2

I went to a school that size. You can and will earn a reputation if you come off wrong. Everyone knew who those guys were even if you hadn't or barely spoken to them. The other commenters have good advice on better paths forward so I'm not going to duplicate.
/r/seduction15/12/16 12:19 AM
3

It's pretty standard advice given to people in recovery programs like AA. It's definitely useful because I'd your in a bad place in life you at least start your day with one positive and useful thing. It helps set your mindset. Definitely good advice.
/r/seduction14/12/16 09:09 PM
2

It's the timing of when you self analyze. Not at all useful in the moment and will likely hurt your current mood/confidence/energy. Later the next day, super helpful to determine what works well and what failed.
/r/seduction14/12/16 01:02 AM
1

If you already have the reputation it's going to be hard to shed. Id say either just embrace it or find a steady girlfriend for awhile. In a town that size, everyone will almost always know everything. Plus, Norway in general is much more of a meet people through friends and connections place. There isn't a huge amount of meeting strangers like in the US.
/r/seduction10/12/16 12:00 AM
1

That sounds like a solid plan to me. I'd maybe try to find a coffee shop a short walk away to avoid crowds (if they're a problem).
/r/seduction09/12/16 09:36 PM
1

Are there any outdoor activities you could do? Like sledding/skating, then warm-up with coffee.
/r/seduction09/12/16 09:17 PM
11

Looks aren't everything but they definitely matter. I'd also guess your friend does far more than he says. You just got the super short summary plus people who are naturals tend to be fairly bad at explaining what they do.
/r/seduction09/12/16 03:51 PM
16

Just my guess. Could also live in So Cal. That CA 6 is a Ohio 12.
/r/seduction08/12/16 12:43 AM
29

Could be going by the grading system where 70% is a C or average.
/r/seduction07/12/16 11:21 PM
2

To start, I hope that's true that it's just a rant but in my experience it's like not and at least subconsciously affects your day to day self. Even if you aren't actively aware. I didn't say you had trouble keeping women. I said being bitter will prevent you from meeting the ones you would want to keep over the long term. You're clearly not meeting the ones you would want in a long term relationship. This could be due to your attitude or where you're meeting them which are what I suggested chan…
/r/seduction07/12/16 07:37 PM
2

After reading the longer posts you sound kind of bitter which may be a big turn off to the kind of women you'd want to keep a long time. I also agree with the other advice that says you should probably change something about your approach. Probably where you're meeting your dates. They clearly have something in common that doesn't work for you.
/r/seduction07/12/16 06:23 PM
1

An observation about her or something around the situation you're both in together is usually the most organic or natural sounding opener. Like: "hey check out that lady freaking out about half price corn muffins" or "that's a really cool scarf, where did you find it?"
/r/seduction07/12/16 12:36 AM
1

Just text something like "Hey [mutual friend] gave me your number and you sound cool. Want to get coffee, drinks, concert, peep jousting..?"
/r/seduction06/12/16 06:38 PM
1

This could say more about your selection of women though rather than a general assumption about first date sex.
/r/seduction06/12/16 06:25 PM
5

Most people are here to improve their dating skills. Getting laid immediately is not necessarily the main goal. There are plenty of valid reasons for putting off sex. It forces a more intellectual and thought out relationship for one. This is valuable once you're past the (usually college) stage of trying to get notches on your belt. Not respecting the girl for hooking up right away is stupid though.
/r/seduction06/12/16 06:20 PM
2

Well, the only real difference is your embarrassing yourself at 25 and others did so at 13. At the end of the day you have to suffer through to get what you want. If anyone on here tells you they have never done anything stupid or embarrassing while learning this stuff, they are either lying or have never left home.
/r/seduction05/12/16 09:07 PM
2

I can't say I have much personal experience but essentially if your the guy always out trying to organize and pick up women in your small town, people will talk. In small towns nearly everyone is connected somehow and it's easy to get a bad reputation. Basically like high school.
/r/seduction03/12/16 07:19 PM
3

Awesome post, exactly what I was trying to get to but much better thought out.
/r/seduction02/12/16 02:56 AM
3

Well, don't blame me when you keep failing then. People don't need to be experts to detect when something is off about someone. They likely won't be able to tell exactly what it is. My guess is with that attitude you're the guy girls tell their friends is weird or creepy.
/r/seduction01/12/16 10:45 PM
13

Well, you can be an ass or listen to some advice. You did ask what people thought was the problem. It's very likely even if you don't think you're in that mood the girls and other people can pick up on it. Either through body language or subtleties in the way you talk.
/r/seduction01/12/16 10:10 PM
5

I'd be careful with this kind of thing in a small city. It's super easy to get a reputation and permanently ruin any chances you have.
/r/seduction01/12/16 09:48 PM
20

Honestly you sound super bitter and angry which is a huge turnoff and red flag for a girl.
/r/seduction01/12/16 09:41 PM
6

The people who you don't understand are the ones who are very naturally social and have a large friend group. If you have a large group of friends you have no need to cold approach as there will always be friends of friends to meet and be introduced to.
/r/seduction01/12/16 09:28 PM
1

I can't say I've personally had this problem from strangers. It seems like a super awkward thing to do. Could be the guy saw the girl looking really awkward and decided to save her in which case OP was already out of luck. Or maybe I've just been lucky. The best thing you can probably do is to get her away from the other guy quickly before they build more rapport than you. Ask her to dance or maybe go to another bar. Otherwise, befriend the guy too. Don't be defensive about his presence. Treat h…
/r/seduction01/12/16 01:00 AM
1

In that case, it sounds like you're doing just fine. Probably just over analyzing the situation. It's perfectly normal to wait for friends (or however you want to define it). If you're already flirting a lot I think you can take that as a strong sign of interest and that you're doing the right thing. If you want to escalate, I'd suggest trying to see her outside of school whether at an event, party, club or just straight asking her out.
/r/seduction30/11/16 12:51 AM
1

Leaving the alpha/beta/douche thing alone for the time. Are the girls you're waiting for friends, acquaintances or just random girls you want to hit on? Also, how do your conversations go? Can you start them in class so after is just a natural progression from there, rather than a completely cold new conversation? Your description sounds like your just waiting around to pick out whatever girl is available which is kind of creepy and awkward.
/r/seduction29/11/16 10:09 PM
1

She's doing it because you're being super needy and annoying. She's busy, has a life, classes, friends, etc. All of those things take time and effort. Validating some guy isn't high on the list even if she likes you and you had one good date.
/r/seduction29/11/16 09:57 PM
1

We do know why. It's because he's being super needy and annoying. Not much mystery about it. She's busy, has a life, friends, etc. All of those things take time and effort. Validating some guy isn't high on the list even if she likes him and they had one good date.
/r/seduction29/11/16 09:53 PM
1

The not interested in dating line may have been a subtle hint you shouldn't have asked. It could be she was enjoying you being just a friend and wanted to maintain that. Like everyone else said, there's no real way to know. She wasn't interested and now you need to move on.
/r/seduction29/11/16 12:34 AM
2

The photographs sound cool and have a great back story. You could start there and build on it by picking up complementing items. I like that art as well. Yeah, the theme came out well for me though tbh that's more lucky than intentional though I'm conscious of it for new things I buy. It's much easier to work with. Figure out what works for you and build on it. We're all works of progress.
/r/seduction23/11/16 06:02 AM
3

Women definitely isn't a good one. I'd probably leave a few of the videogame ones if you have more subtle ones and can contain them in computer/game area. I have a cartoon one up currently. Do you have any other interests or some family pictures? My bedroom is mostly landscapes which would be simple to do for anyone. Most of my decorations are aviation and travel related which are two of my main hobbies. The main point to show your personality and interests plus I like seeing them. Reminds me of…
/r/seduction22/11/16 10:01 PM
3

I do too. Don't see how this changes anything. Might just not be able to knock as many holes in the walls.
/r/seduction22/11/16 08:38 PM
6

Oh definitely, not saying they need to be expensive. Just look nice and exist. I'd also like to point out the key here is that you have a frame. That subtle difference is huge.
/r/seduction22/11/16 05:10 PM
1

Well start slow, eat a little more, workout a little more. Let your body adjust. Repeat. You can make excuses all day or figure out how to improve. And if my rotund coworkers are any proof there are plenty of things to eat in front of a computer.
/r/seduction22/11/16 04:09 PM
6

Haha, fair! I get complements on it all the time and it makes a great conversation starter. Edit: That and a clean bathroom which takes what? 10 minutes a week to maintain.
/r/seduction22/11/16 04:04 PM
81

This is good. I'd like to add one thing: DECORATE YOUR HOME. I walk into so many guys apartments and it looks like they either just moved in or are living in rental. All open boring white walls. Get some framed pictures and other decorations that show off your personality.
/r/seduction22/11/16 03:55 PM
8

Pretty solid list. Maybe add some Jack and Coke too.
/r/seduction22/11/16 03:52 PM
1

Well, luckily for you super skinny isn't unattractive to most people. Much better than super fat. Getting over being insecure would probably help tremendously and more than the physical portion but I'll address that too. Short term: Buy clothes that fit properly and indeed show you're skinny. If you wear baggy clothes; it looks worse like that kid who put on his dads shirt and doesn't know how to dress. /r/mfa can be a decent source, at least for how things should fit. Long term: Workout and eat…
/r/seduction22/11/16 03:47 PM
3

Absolutely but you get what you put in. If you have a good profile and nice pictures, you'll likely see good results. If you throw a couple incoherent sentences together and use your latest Zodiac-style selfie, you'll get no results.
/r/seduction21/11/16 10:38 PM
1

I'd be impressed if more ads could be put into that website.
/r/seduction21/11/16 08:25 PM
1

That was what I was intending. Though in general, I'd say you need to be a half level more energetic than most people around you to be the most attractive. Obviously that amount of energy is reduced in somewhere like a museum so if your a quiet person that's a better place to look.
/r/seduction18/11/16 04:28 PM
2

Dude, c'mon. Being introverted and quite is a valuable and viable way to be but in a social setting it's not who people are drawn to. People want to talk to the enthusiastic guy telling stories, making people laugh, getting them involved and moving around.
/r/seduction18/11/16 12:25 AM
1

It's not that they are completely incapable of talking about these things. It's that they tend to be very personal and strong beliefs that most people aren't comfortable discussing with new people. Talk about them if you want but understand it will make people uncomfortable and you'll turn off people who could have been great friends or dates by bringing up topics you didn't have enough rapport to discuss with them yet.
/r/seduction17/11/16 07:51 PM
1

I don't think you are the same as he can't get second dates vs you don't want one. I'm also not sure what you mean by visual guy. Is it that you don't find her attractive? If so, why ask her out on the first date?
/r/seduction15/11/16 02:23 PM
1

Well, now I'm also wondering if people are actually leading you on or if you're misinterpreting friendliness or courtesy. I'm not saying therapy is the answer. It's just one avenue to change. Also, there are shitty therapists and good ones. It sounds like you had the former. Since what you're doing now isn't working it's obvious a change is needed somewhere.
/r/seduction15/11/16 02:19 PM
1

Well, it sounds like you know what your issue is then. I doubt you'll be successful dating until you deal with your anger and aggression issues but that's probably past the ability of this forum to help. Go find a councillor or therapy group or other tool and start working on that.
/r/seduction15/11/16 08:18 AM
1

Haha, do you read this forum often? That's not easy for most people here. Also, being angry, jealous and passive aggressive are basically never good things. Confident and assertive are though.
/r/seduction15/11/16 07:24 AM
1

Ha ha, fair. I don't have a great answer for you there. Just wanted to kind of redirect your focus from the post date texting. Well, if you're getting first days, you're consistently doing better than a whole lot of guys and you've got that first step down well! So props there man! If you have any specific date situations you'd like help understand feel free to message them and I can try to offer some insight. (Or PM if that's more comfortable). Otherwise, I'm sure you've seen the typical advice…
/r/seduction15/11/16 04:46 AM
1

I generally interpret them not offering another time as a rejection. They just don't want to be direct. It's easier and less dangerous a guy will flip out on them to just be busy and slowly fade. So really, you should be figuring what's turning them off on your first date or why you're failing to create attraction.
/r/seduction15/11/16 12:59 AM
2

If you drive stick: Ask if she does, if she hasn't, say I'll teach you. Put her hand on the shifter and yours over it. Shift gears. Stick touching achieved.
/r/seduction15/11/16 12:04 AM
1

I'd like to point out how socially intelligent her rejection was. It's indirect and gives a small chance of a later yes so he can accept it without an ego hit or becoming angry. Avoids direct confrontation and later ignoring his text.
/r/seduction10/11/16 07:06 PM
4

Well it's real easy not to be needy. I'd probably just look for my first chance to gracefully exit as I'd rather spend my time elsewhere and finding someone better. Could try being very flirty to see if you can escalate quickly into something short term.
/r/seduction08/11/16 05:22 AM
2

Haha, went on a date with a model and had almost the same experience. I think I learned more about the bar tender just ordering drinks than her.
/r/seduction08/11/16 12:40 AM
1

There's a (I think) Stephen King quote that says something along the lines of VERY is the most boring/lazy word in the English language.
/r/seduction08/11/16 12:35 AM
1

You can always plan cheaper dates too. Coffee, just drinks, park, farmers market, etc.
/r/seduction04/11/16 10:17 PM
3

Going to take your self evaluation as accurate which I think means you have a much better starting point than most guys on here as you have your life very well together and only need to improve the dating aspect. That starting point is superb man! The main thing you need to get is experience but I understand how nerve-wracking that can be without some background knowledge. My suggestion is read ONE book or other guide on the topic. Either Models by Mark Manson or the first 2/3rds of No More Mr. …
/r/seduction04/11/16 09:53 PM
1

I'd guess you three her off by drastically changing your texting pattern. Going from texting all the time to very little is a strong sign to her you're not interested. I'd probably try to send her a fun pic from the show, easy way to reconnect, and then ask one more time for something a few days out and not a Friday when people usually have plans. If she blows you off again, just let it go.
/r/seduction03/11/16 11:45 PM
1

Still flirt and use the touching you're allowed while staying in those values.
/r/seduction03/11/16 10:43 PM
2

Good post! Though I don't think I can agree with #1. While I highly doubt she didn't see the message there's plenty of reasons not to respond right away. I do this regularly for all kinds of reasons like being at work, out with friends, driving, gym, etc.
/r/seduction02/11/16 08:10 PM
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