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UCLA published that over half of undergraduates are graduating without having had sex at all. That is fucking wild. Zoomers just hate sex. https://www.instagram.com/p/C3oUf3Pu0K3/?igsh=OWU5NmwxNWtoYXJs When I grew up there was the “Superbad” expectation that you’re a loser if you graduate high school as a virgin. And I’m pretty sure that in the 00s most HS graduates had sex. In basically 15 years, we’ve gone to the point where graduating college as a virgin is now normal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:11 AM

Yes they are. What makes them look dumb is having these standards then getting mad when they pick someone who doesn’t meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:26 PM

If you think I’m the upset one then you need to work on that EQ my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:45 PM

lol so you’re an option 2 girlie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:27 PM

Its a fine line: I still feel that dominance and submission go hand in hand with masculinity and femininity. But dominance can easily veer into strong arming and submission can easily veer into passive insecurity. Women absolutely have an active role to play when being approached. But many are incredibly passive because they are insecure and need to be chased to feel wanted. They often are just trying to avoid emotional risk, which ironically is unattractive so these women get stuck in a cycle o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:34 PM

Low iq woman playbook: Option 1: gaslight Option 2: men do it too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:05 PM

OP is saying women keep score. I find that women often give themselves relationship points on their score card for doing things their partner doesn’t actually care about and then they use this made up imbalance as a justification to have resentment they rarely communicate It’s like the concept of a partnership is foreign to them. Thank god my mom isn’t like this nor most women I date. But feel bad for the guys who feel like women like this are their only option
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:54 AM
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Maybe you’re just projecting your own lack of accountability lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:03 PM
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Who never apologizes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:46 PM
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Studies are fairly clear that men apologizing less has nothing to do with them not taking accountability. Women apologize more because they don’t want to come across as offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:39 PM
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Women apologize more. Women see apologizing as a function of defusing rather than admitting fault. Admitting fault itself may escalate a conflict they don’t want to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:54 AM

SAHM is an objectively easy job once the kids are past 8 unless you pick a shitty father
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:14 AM
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Yeah but they are more likely to earn that than single men No net worth requirement to be single lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:59 PM
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Wdym? Because to be a father you have to already have these boxes ticked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:30 PM
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They will only tell you what you want to hear if you make it seem like there is a right or wrong answer to the question rather than it just being a discussion about their personal values. Your example itself can be a question “Hey I was invited to x queer event. Would you like to join me?” Assume you have the intuition that you’re not attracted to liars. And if they lie then now you have the receipts rather than it being ambiguous And besides that, it’s just a turn off to men with self respect. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:16 PM
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Subtlety≠covert Good ways to phrase things are “Do you like x” “How do you feel about x” In fact the more encouraging you are, the more likely men are going to spill the beans and show their true selves. Don’t make it seem like there is a right or wrong answer to your question because that will make them self censor
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:58 PM
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Shit tests≠vetting When you seem like you’re trying to conceal intentions rather than being straight up then it’s a red flag. It comes off like you assume you’re being lied to and communication is sabotaged from the start. One crazy one I heard is that women now misgender men to see if they respond poorly to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:33 PM
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The idea that there exists an objective SMV contradicts with the very concept of “market value.” Market value is inherently subjective. IMO if you want to make such arguments then we should use the term “sexual intrinsic value” (SIV)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:51 AM
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I would correct you and say black American women. And I’d say the same applies to a lot of Slavic women. The irony is that often you can find that a lot of West Indian immigrants, for instance, have opposite outcomes compared to many black American families. They are, on average, a more skilled class of people than average white folks in America. They do not suffer from the same inter gender tensions that black folks who have been affected by racist US policy. Basically the groups that have had …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:11 PM
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That’s not single men either. The majority of those are going to be fathers to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:06 AM
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This is true for both genders. In fact, I think hypogamy might actually be more common in women who make a lot of money vs men (or at least it is statistically way more common than what redpill men would claim). But these women are not the average. I’m talking about the average working class woman who is struggling. They don’t want to date someone else who is struggling like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:09 AM
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It’s hard to say. But if you think about it, how can the economy grow fast enough to accommodate an effective doubling of the labor force participation in about 50 years? Something’s got to give. But countries that also neglect their female labor force tend to perform the worst as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:37 AM
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Yes some women use relationships as financial lifeboats when it becomes less and less feasible that they can provide the lifestyle they want for themselves. Women don’t seem to be adjusting to the fact that men aren’t much better off than women are when in previous recessions, men still were a viable way to find financial lifeboats. These men just don’t exist anymore in the same quantities. But on the flip side there are more women now who make more money, but unfortunately it was awful timing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:29 AM
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No studies show there is a gender split in how Gen Z interfaces in social media. It’s more just that the gender wars have made people myopic. Gen Z Women think men are gooners and Gen Z men think women are 666 gold diggers. There will be some Gen Z men dating profiles that look like thirst trap type stuff but not as many as Gen Z women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:55 PM
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They are addicted to the idea that they can leverage their presentation into a good relationship due to instant gratification culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:54 PM

I think most importantly they are going to regret the relationships they do end up having with women. They are going to be hollow and loveless because their gender ideology is more important to them than the actual dynamic they have with their own partner. They will project this dynamic on to all their partners and they will attract not the most honest sorts of women either
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:24 AM

IMO younger men probably have the most experience with it. Redpill has morphed a lot and I just grew up with weird pick up artist shit like Mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:21 AM
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Great theory… but where is the data? We don’t have that much, but studies where masturbation was the method (e.g. M&J) still show multiple orgasmic women are in the minority. Granted, I would still argue the strong majority are physically capable. The data is fairly clear that lesbians and heterosexual couples report similar amounts of sexual satisfaction “Straight women have more sex than lesbians” just won’t go over well as a headline lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:29 PM
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If she wants to give me a blowjob, then I don’t ask. If I want a blowjob, then I ask Not complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:35 AM
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“Heterosexual and lesbian women were equally likely to be sexually satisfied (66% heterosexual women vs. 68% lesbian women). Compared to heterosexuals, lesbians were more likely to report having sex 0–1 times per month (11% vs. 23%) and were less likely to report having sex greater than once per month (89% vs. 77%). Among women who had been in relationships for longer than 5 years, heterosexual women were less likely than lesbian women to report having sex 0–1 times per month (15%; 42%).” https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:31 AM
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Moreover gendered scripts are often internalized by women themselves and often feel that straight sex is “supposed” to look a certain way due to the fact that there are really very few honest cultural depictions of mutually satisfying straight sex. Women may often feel reluctant to communicate their own needs because they think it breaks the expectation of what straight sex should look like. Queer couples often have no existing script, so they HAVE to communicate because there is no pre written …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:35 AM
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People like leopards ate my face type stuff. Same reason why some people like to say homophobic slurs to conservatives implying they are in the closet. They assume all men derive self worth from sex so it’s just another form of bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:00 PM

People who never solicit service sex acts (eg where only one person is being brought to orgasm) yet expect them as a default are selfish. I don’t know how to explain this any more than that. This isn’t as big an issue with lesbians because their needs are less asymmetrical but also that penetration is mutually pleasurable in a way that’s unique to straight sex (ofc mutual masturbation exists but that’s not really the same). There’s no good argument against communication. People who communicate c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:15 PM

Well fortunately we don’t have to rely on that unless you think sex stores lie It’s still pretty black pilled my guy. Women prefer a top 10th percentile penis. The average penis is significantly shorter than ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:12 PM

What numbers? I literally gave you self reported numbers from sex stores. Go on any website and just sort by most popular my guy Here ya go: https://www.pinkcherry.com/collections/dildo-sex-toys?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=87583512&utm_content=130503592307&utm_term=best%20sex%20toy%20website&absrc=Google&abid=782398473563&abcampid=87583512&abgroupid=130503592307&abkwdid=kwd-11852616389&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=87583512&gbraid=0AAAAAD-nqajjWrpNo7uEKhtw0jw_sJf9p What is actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:05 PM

No it isn’t https://www.wickedsextoys.uk/adult-toys/sex-toys-what-is-the-best-selling-dildo-size/ https://www.weloveplugs.com/blog/how-to-choose-the-most-popular-dildo-size-for-maximum-pleasure “Studies show that the average dildo size purchased is around 7.52 inches (19 centimeters) in length. This is nearly 3 inches longer than the average penis size. When it comes to width, the most popular dildos have a circumference of about 4.71 inches (12 centimeters).” Likewise “investable” length is a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:56 PM
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The peers of the woman you date (friends and family)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:48 PM

6.75 to 7.25 inches is widely considered to be the ideal penis length Your dysmorphia is actually fueled by male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:45 PM

Women who like PIV orgasms absolutely care They care about it being too big as well. There’s a fairly sharp cutoff before 8 inches in length whereas it is less extreme on the bottom end of the curve
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:42 PM

This is tautological. The only people who forgo their independence for relationships are people who have been abandoned by their parents. Parents would not let their child be financially abused Even your use of the term “adopted” means that somehow there was a transfer of paternity. Why would a family let someone else “adopt” their child?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:00 AM

The kind of young adult who willingly chooses to have a relationship over becoming independent adult (going to school and getting a job) is typically a young adult who has been abandoned by their parents. Most families won’t let their college aged daughters forgo their self development for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:52 AM

Mods deleted my age gap post for being shitposting but basically I was saying that the only exploitative age gap relationships are the ones where the younger person comes from an unstable household/got a bad education or were working at a young age in entertainment or industries where children are used. We definitely are in the era of where we assume age gap relationships on their face are exploitative. Do these people bother to find data? Ofc not. And yeah some blue pilled folk end up projectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:48 AM
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Are you sure you’re replying to the right person? I’m not OP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:34 AM
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This has literally nothing to do with my reply my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:25 AM
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Yeah I think biphobia is overblown. Women just think bi men will have dick fomo and that they’ll want to sleep with a man at some point because she can’t provide the same thing a man can. That’s not really biphobia, that’s just some cunt with trust issues They could just date bi tops. Girls have assholes too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:09 AM
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Pretty gendered. Sometimes it’s expected of men to not only tolerate a woman’s insecurities but to actively indulge them and be used for external validation to assuage their insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:16 AM
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When this feeling isn’t mutual, this is how women get stuck on the situationship merry go round
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:25 AM
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Same here. But we are not the norm my guy and nor are the women we date
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:38 PM
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Correction: aroused by men Sure heterosexual women are attracted to men… just usually not the idea of having sex with them. That’s a cost many will eat
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:32 PM
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That’s because we find the women who are attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:26 PM
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Most women are insecure so they need to be chased to feel secure in the relationship. If a woman sticks herself out there to pursue a man, she doesn’t know yet if he’ll reciprocate. Most women can’t handle that emotional risk. If a man is pursuing her then she doesn’t have to guess whether she is liked or not. But yes it is a tragedy given how much more successful relationships are when initiated by women. Whelp. This is often because even in relationships insecure women will continue to need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:45 AM
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Lol pick your stereotype girly: either men like to hear themselves during sex or men aren’t making enough noise during sex. Which is it? You’re not mature enough for sex if you can’t self advocate period
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:36 AM
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The orgasm gap is mostly deserved. I’ve had one female partner solicit clitoral stimulation out of almost 2 dozen. If you can’t be bothered to ask a man to touch your clit then you’re selfish and deserve a jackhammer or two pump chump
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:45 AM
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Yeah, according to quite a few women I’ve dated. Usually you get a friend out of it too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:10 AM
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Ehhh some people enjoy sex more than masturbation believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:58 PM
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As Redditors have pointed out my misread: Apparently according to UBS, this isn’t true. Women who make more money still on average defer to men for investment decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:20 PM
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I can’t edit the title obviously, but the discussion on “who really is managing the money” then is clearly the next logical step. Women seem to take primary responsibility in one aspect and men the other. Nominally it could be men with respect to investment, but I don’t think this would apply to the median. Women may be spending more time making budgeting decisions comparatively and may be more relevant to day to day life Granted mods would probably prefer this be a discussion thread rather than…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:19 PM
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I’m not making that conflation in the edit. Managing investments and assets≠contribution I found the wording of the fortune article ambiguous and was more clear from UBS directly. Presumably “breadwinner” implies that it is already the person contributing more money. I’m sure you could break it down more but it could get subjective quickly in trying to define money kept for self vs money contributed. Savings can be used productively for couples and obviously you don’t need a joint bank account t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:14 PM
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It seems there are two dimensions: who is the breadwinner and gendered associations with consumer goods vs investments. Yes breadwinners often find a comparative advantage with their partner in giving them more responsibility to make financial decisions so they can focus on their own work more. But also… regardless of who is the breadwinner, women often see men as being more competent with investment and men see women as more competent with household management.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:10 PM
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The wording of the fortune article imo is not clear whereas it is in the UBS report. The data concerns investments not all household expenditure generally. So this report doesn’t contradict this data: https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/news/women-almost-twice-as-likely-as-men-to-do-the-bulk-of-household-budgeting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:02 PM
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👍 This is making more sense when the data appears to contradict: https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/news/women-almost-twice-as-likely-as-men-to-do-the-bulk-of-household-budgeting But when thinking more it means that women trust men to manage assets/investments and men trust women more for household budgeting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:58 PM
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So another Redditor pointed out to me that given this is investment bank data, so this is more narrowly referring to financial decisions regarding investments, not household expenditure generally. The data appears to contradict, but if you think about it… it makes sense: https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/news/women-almost-twice-as-likely-as-men-to-do-the-bulk-of-household-budgeting Women trust men more to manage assets and investments, and men tend to trust women more with household budgeting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:56 PM
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This makes sense. UBS’ data set can only refer to investment resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:54 PM
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Is the data then correlated the other direction then (when women make more they make fewer financial decisions?) Because according to UBS, 52% of women are responsible for most financial decisions in couples: https://www.ubs.com/global/en/media/display-page-ndp/en-20210506-own-your-worth.html https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/news/women-almost-twice-as-likely-as-men-to-do-the-bulk-of-household-budgeting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:48 PM
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This is a good point but savings can be used productively… although this is not the main point of OP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:42 PM
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From the article: “But just half of those women breadwinners take the lead on financial responsibilities in their households, compared to 79% of men in the same position.” I can look it up when I’m free but pretty sure on average women make most spending decisions even in primary male breadwinner households. That was certainly my experience when I worked in sales as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:42 PM
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Thanks for letting me know about this… I honestly didn’t know it was that bad https://fortune.com/2023/06/13/female-breadwinners-rising-ubs-report/ That said, women date down a lot more than TRPers suggest but clearly a good proportion of these women are just seeking convenience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:16 PM
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This is why so many women have no hobbies and that they need to “decenter men” to give them space to have one as if they can’t have balance I wouldn’t be surprised if the idea of having hobbies feels unattractive to these women because they don’t want to be like men. So their hobbies are more specifically feminine or they try to gatekeep certain hobbies as feminine. These are the women who complain about men not reading and or being emotionally intelligent and then they find an emotionally intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:26 PM
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Girl boss culture and redpill culture are adjacent. Pseudo feminists now see traditional roles as a means to create a binary for men whom they see as the enemy: either men are sequestered and fail to reproduce due to not meeting traditional standards OR girlboss women can use traditional standards to their advantage and have their cake and eat it too (eg my money is my money and his money is my money) The goal of a lot of girlboss culture is to try to find maximum efficiency in extracting what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:10 PM
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Why does OP think fat women don’t want to be woo’d? Everyone wants to be woo’d but only a minority of people have “bring to the table” mindsets. Plenty of men, myself included, have casual sex with non overweight women without having to bring something to the table the woman herself isn’t bringing. You just have to touch grass. OP is just describing what unattractive men have to do and ironically it tends to be black pilled/incels who are most aware of this not the opposite. Attractive people do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:01 PM
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Women obsessed with the male loneliness epidemic like to make things up about incels because it validates their misandrist worldview (OP feels it is in their nature to be parasitic) OP should learn that if fat women want more than casual sex with men of average weight then they need to woo men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:59 PM
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I’ve found that toxic protector narratives have been increasing among younger daters. Often it’s perpetuated by a cycle of trauma: last man I was with fucked me up so my next man needs to be protective and then he’s got the same problem ad nauseum. These women pretend the problem is the solution. Maybe we should call single women “unprotected women” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:22 AM
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Same reason why plenty of women are pro life. “Unwanted pregnancy won’t happen to me because I’m amazing and only bad people unplanned pregnancies.” With being in a relationship with a misogynist it’s “oh I’m amazing. He won’t be misogynistic to me. He’ll only be misogynistic to the women who suck because I’m amazing” Blue pill ofc are going to use victim narratives again to maintain a woman are wonderful fallacy. They’re not wrong, but they won’t resolve the cognitive dissonance that women can …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:11 AM
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I find this isn’t really an issue when people enjoy the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:03 AM
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It is for sure not average. But it’s common on apps where the man is often the more attractive one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:20 PM
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Cope lol Yeah most men don’t say anything to get laid believe it or not? And by “anything” could you provide examples and then try to have the audacity to claim this is average behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:43 AM
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None of the women replying have asked these men out. They are just going to give you a hypothetical that doesn’t make them look shallow Lots of women don’t like shy men because they need uninitiated affection to feel attractive. The idea that these women would have to solicit affection for a shy guy to feel comfortable giving it is a nightmare existence for them. They’re so pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:56 PM
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I’m not saying it never happens. I’m saying it’s not the norm. So if it is always happening to you then you’re the lowest common denominator and it’s probably not that men are mostly fake to you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:45 PM
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As long as men care more about women’s issues than vice versa, it’s kinda hard to see this argument as not being hypocritical Likewise men don’t face institutional barriers so much as social norm barriers. The people men need to rebel against are often their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, teachers, coworkers, dates etc. Men rn are in a similar position to women pre sex revolution where women needed to abandon their local support systems to become independent women where their families want…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:07 PM
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I don’t think any man who complains about these things think they deserve love for existing. 99% of men who complain about this know that if they want a date with a woman, then they have to arrange a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:39 PM
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Seems to revolve around sex girlie even if there are adjacent topics. Doesn’t seem to be just relationship problems
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:38 PM

You’re projecting Classic PPD woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:24 PM
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Most people are private about their sex life. It’s not the norm for you to treat it as a dealbreaker if someone doesn’t want to hear about it. Would you do the same with coworkers or is it impossible for you to be friends with them because you can’t talk about sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:12 PM
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Like a more traditional humblebrag usually with more embellishments And I assume you mean insecure men not all men. I meant insecure women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:11 PM
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lol sorry for your friends that they can’t set boundaries with you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:51 PM
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Insecure women seek validation for their shitty love lives. It’s like a bizzare humblebrag that they have romantic problems
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:30 PM
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lol at least edit your og comment to say “why should anyone be entitled to buy sex” if integrity is something you care about fuckin lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:28 PM
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That’s why you have to buy a prostitute silly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:39 PM

The problem is also people who have a problem with it when it is not encroaching on said responsibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:20 PM

Hahaha it’s a variant of my recent post although this one is getting upvoted more but it’s the same thing: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/YadyLJmU1i The only people who have lists of attractive and unattractive hobbies (outside of hobbies that are violent and or unethical) are people who are uninteresting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:15 PM
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The only men I’ve cucked made way more money than me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:29 PM
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I’m saying that people in general do not fake themselves. So most of the time if the effort falls off, it is not because they are fake but because they are matching energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:26 PM
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You get what you give in life generally. Most people do not choose to put on an act they can’t maintain. If he’s putting less effort in, most likely he is just matching your energy. This is absolutely the majority of cases. Most of the time it isn’t some fake front they put on, but rather they put in up front investment that had no return so they adjust their investment accordingly. Usually this happens when the woman thinks her time, her presence and her body are what constitutes a good return …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:14 PM
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The majority of men settle but most men don’t have the self esteem to admit it to themselves. Women’s standards are kind of a roadblock for men being able to date a woman they want. Apps made it so that women just go after the men they find most attractive, and the people you find most attractive rarely like you back as much as you’d want. But then again, that’s not different than most men who just take what ends up on their plate. Along with low self esteem, men are more willing to settle becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:07 PM

As women have gained financial agency, they seem to be struggling with the shift in roles. They don’t want to do what men have done for hundreds of years, so now they won’t have anything more than situations or casual. The only way we could have more complete couples is if women take up the slack and take on roles that men did before women had financial agency. But women don’t want to do that so we won’t get these couples. There are very few women today saying they will take care of most living …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:51 PM
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I think you can be mad at a gender as long as you don’t project that baggage onto the person you are dating. So you assume they aren’t one of the bad ones till they prove otherwise. It’s the people who assume they are dating someone who sucks and they make it a test to prove they aren’t one of the bad ones who will suffer the most when dating
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:47 PM
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People don’t become FWBs for validation. But I guess since sex is seen as something that validates or invalidates a woman’s value, it is socially destructive for her to admit she is letting a man have sex with her without the perks of him being her boyfriend. Everyone will see her as being taken advantage of and throwing away her sexual value Society doesn’t like to empower women who have casual sex even if it’s what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:39 PM
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I linked a meta analysis Context is not meaningless either: “These differences are less apparent when the conformity occurs in private (Eagly, 1978, 1983)”: Women conform more in public contexts. So this confirms what OP is saying about the “performative” aspects of conformity No meta analysis says there are no differences between genders when factoring all variables. There is still a difference even if it is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:37 PM
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I think OP is using it as a shorthand here but when you read OP it has more to do with social group dynamics. Herd mentality usually just means that you make a decision based on what the group you are in decides while bypassing personal rational thinking (eg movement of a herd of animals) I don’t really think, literally speaking, that is what we mean when we say herd mentality in human relational contexts. In this context, to me, it simply means that you feel pressured to be agreeable so as to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:21 PM
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It makes sense that women wouldn’t like ONS, but why not FWB? Presumably if they are FWB, then the sex isn’t bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:17 PM
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Because most women simply don’t like sex enough for this to be a reality. And it makes you realize that these women also create dead bedrooms marriages and simply are not sexual enough people to satisfy a monogamous partnership yet we make these people conform to it. But there are women like the ones in OP and I have had a similar experience in college and 20s. Plenty of women have “spontaneous sexuality” just like men and have visceral attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:17 PM
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Some do. And that’s for themselves to decide whether it is self sabotage or not. They are often pro life due to the social optics of being a “responsible mother.” It’s “look at me I would never get an abortion because only irresponsible people have unwanted pregnancies and I’m a responsible woman.” It’s fucking crazy but some women are like that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:49 PM
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Tends to only be myopic queer folks (not to knock on queer folks generally) who see cis straight men be averse to non gender conforming behavior then generalize that means they aren’t maverick. It probably comes from some weird place of jealousy that men can be normies but also be trailblazers and that not being heteronormative in queer communities doesn’t make them unique in those communities
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:45 PM
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It’s says what the quote I listed says. Sure there are situations where men conform more and women less but TAKEN TOGETHER women conform more than men. You simply have listed parts where men feel more averse to gender non conforming behavior. Herd mentality imo is agreeing for the sake of not rocking the boat. Why is it only women on PPD who move goalposts like this? Even blue pill men don’t do this. They tend to say the data is bad rather than trying to claim the very obvious wording of the stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:39 PM
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https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Courses/Macomb_Community_College/PSYC_2600_Social_Psychology/07%3A_Influencing_and_Conforming/7.03%3A_Person_Gender_and_Cultural_Differences_in_Conformity#:~:text=Taken%20together%2C%20this%20means%20that,Eagly%20&%20Chravala%2C%201986). “Taken together, this means that, at least when they are being observed by others, men are likely to hold their ground, act independently, and refuse to conform, whereas women are more likely to conform to the opinions of others …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:19 PM
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OP should have put that women hate statistics and will cite gendered counterexamples and pretend that is an argument 🤮🤮🤮🤮 https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Courses/Macomb_Community_College/PSYC_2600_Social_Psychology/07%3A_Influencing_and_Conforming/7.03%3A_Person_Gender_and_Cultural_Differences_in_Conformity#:~:text=Taken%20together%2C%20this%20means%20that,Eagly%20&%20Chravala%2C%201986). “Taken together, this means that, at least when they are being observed by others, men are likely to hold t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:15 PM

lol you mix up icks with standards and dealbreakers and now have the audacity to write this condescending crap? This is clearly an intellectual aptitude issue on your part. None of what I’m saying is debating the definition of ick. Plug in the definition you wrote and my argument still applies as I’m not using the term any differently than it used conventionally. And yes I’m saying a few people do this and then you are the one who thinks I’m generalizing. I’m not generalizing about people who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:43 PM
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Women swipe on men they don’t talk to so men swipe on women they won’t date so women swipe on men they don’t talk to so men swipe on women they won’t date etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:57 PM
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Fat women are selfish to expect anything more than casual sex from average weight men. But we demonize average weight men for wanting casual sex with fat women rather than telling the fat women they are selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:50 PM

I have multiple icks too girlie. I’m not qualifying it. Can you read literally the first sentence back to me? Hilarious of you to say I’m qualifying anything meanwhile you bring up standards and dealbreakers which are not the same as icks. Kinda rich to say that when you are treating different terms as synonymous I’m not talking about people who have just a few icks There’s a group of people who are insecure and use icks to feel better about themselves. Nothing inherent to the term “ick”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:14 PM

Well you can start a thread about standards and dealbreakers if you want but I’m talking about icks and not just a few icks, people who have more than just a couple of them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:54 PM

And I’m saying uninteresting people are more likely to have a longer list of arbitrary turn offs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:39 PM
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They get stuck in a cycle of situationships then blame everyone but themselves. That’s what happens They end up with partners who lack negative characteristics but there is no chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:54 PM
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It’s an illusion of choice because they are depending on the notion that the asymmetry of the interaction implies that they are the desired ones but in the long run they are committing to behavior that makes them less desirable than people who match energy. These people get dates not relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:42 PM
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This isn’t about icks. It is about people who aren’t interesting who use icks to make themselves feel more attractive than the people who are putting more effort in the talking stage than they are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:41 PM
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This dynamic happens before the rejection occurs: It happens during the talking stage where one person is clearly providing more value than the other person. The person who is a slog to talk to is riding on the fact that the other person is still initiating interaction as a sign of interest, but they really are just exploiting that people give each other benefit of the doubt until more substantial interaction happens. These people are self conscious of this dynamic and know they lack confidence …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:37 PM
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Never ceases to amaze me how many men on Reddit believe that they can get a take of what the average woman thinks on Reddit. Reddit represents average men way more than it does the average woman. Women know Reddit is where men often congregate online so just think about what kind of woman would be drawn to Reddit outside of niche hobbyist spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:06 PM
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This thread isn’t critical of icks. It is discussing the phenomenon of uninteresting people who use icks to make themselves feel better than others
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:35 PM
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I understand. I guess I’m saying that if these people felt they had showed their true self then this wouldn’t be a concern. They are deciding for themselves that they are uninteresting to the other person before they even attempt to show why they are interesting. They just wait for the other person to be curious without having any material to be curious about. It’s like they want their dates to FORM (family/occupation/recreation/motivation small talk) into being interested in them. You have to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:07 PM
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I genuinely do think most couples and most people in human history don’t get into loving romantic partnerships. But the weird part is that even in my most casual relationships, I’ve never felt as if basic relationship needs were conditional as many men here feel. I’ve never felt like affection was conditional in my relationships. The basic conditions that make being in a relationship preferable to single were never used as bargaining chips in any of my relationships. I think relationships where …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:00 PM
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I mean it should be clear that I’m not saying this is what all icks are. I’m specifically talking about people who lack the confidence to match energy in the talking phase and make little conversational contribution. Likewise, it is weird to make a decision for yourself that the other person doesn’t seem interested. If they want to keep going on dates then they are interested. It’s just a problem you’re creating for yourself if you think someone is full of shit for wanting to continue dating whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:45 PM
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And I don’t get why you think I should just shut up lol I don’t care if you think this isn’t something I should talk about lol This isn’t about dating these people. It should be fairly clear to anyone in this thread that these aren’t people you should date. But that doesn’t mean that we should only criticize the people we want to date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:42 PM
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I literally say first line that this isn’t a general condemnation of icks girly 🙄 I’m talking about people who are low bandwidth during the talking stage and like being chased before they’ve actually demonstrated anything of substance on their part. They use icks to compensate for the fact that they lack the confidence to match energy in the talking phase
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:39 PM
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It’s usually obvious when people are being self flagellating or when they are bullying. And it’s not like I’m being super serious. I love making fun of my girl friends when they bring up a stupid ick. I enjoy roasting them so that’s what I get out of it typically. It doesn’t matter to me personally. Why does it matter to them if I’m critical of their behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:36 PM
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This is too ideal a definition of “ick.” Sure in theory that is what an ick is but in practice that is often not the case Most icks now are constructed based on subjective cultural experiences. Being superficial imo means that your disgust is self programmed and not instinctual
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:33 PM
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You’re on your own tangent here. I don’t care how you joke about it as long as it is generally accepted that you’re not putting people down behind their back. People are allowed to have their preferences in humor and you shouldn’t get defensive if they don’t match. Just agree to disagree and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:31 PM
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If you have casual banter discussing “icks” while also not being tongue in cheek about how the concept itself is dumb, then most likely you still have insecurities about not being interesting. People generally don’t have casual banter about what makes a person “icky” unless you enjoy being a bully
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:26 PM
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Projecting the shame they feel about their own flaws. These people tend to be so self obsessed with righting their own flaws, that they end up losing their identity in the process and become uninteresting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:21 PM
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I think we are in agreement? I’m not saying that this is a tactic that works. It’s something that is delulu I’m saying it’s typically a coping mechanism for people who don’t like their options. They can’t acknowledge that not matching energy results in driving away more desirable options or failing to keep them around. Rather than accept that they aren’t interesting and being more interesting will yield better results, they can double down and try to maintain a faulty sense of self worth by putt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:18 PM
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Yeah I agree that the people who saw personal growth and romantic experience as mutually exclusive tend to end up being adult children when they only decide to first start dating in their late 20s. But I’d say this has less to do with social skills and more to do with literal relationship skills. There are lots of social butterflies who fail at relationships because you still need a separate skill set for that. I think having an absent parent is more damaging in the sense that people tend to lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:06 PM
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It’s more like I shouldn’t be the only one who is the source of dopamine. It’s most likely because now that I’m in my 30s I’m dating women who were able to coast in relationships based on young male hormones and now that sexual value is more equal, they flounder to actually provide much value elsewhere in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:03 PM
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Internal locus of control means that if a man sees his partner as boring, then men feel it is his job to help her be less boring. I think most of the time this is the best approach. Most women who complain about being bored also happen to be the women who are most passive. If they still feel bored when single and need to be in a relationship to not feel bored then she is the problem not her partners. I tend to dump women who aren’t reciprocal. I don’t need tit for tat but once it becomes clear t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:37 PM
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Redpill men are stuck Eskimo broiling each other with women who have daddy issues Their tactics do a great job of scaring off most women and attracting dysfunctional self loathing women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:19 PM
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Social adolescence is often a regressive social skill. Coed adolescent social environments are superior. If your adolescent social environment mainly involved people with the same gender and activity (often a sport) then most likely you have bad habits to unlearn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:52 PM
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I’m seeing a girl rn who cries whenever she has an orgasm. Sure she is emotional. Emotionally available? No. Emotional dogpiling is toxic as well. But this happens more often with my female friends than girls I date. And it’s definitely something women do amongst themselves in their friend groups and they probably see it as emotional intelligence when it really isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:36 PM
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I’m constantly finding that almost all women I get into situationships with from apps are incredibly emotionally closed off. They think men are so stupid that they don’t know any better but it’s the reason why they are situationships and not relationships. Some women nowadays seem to struggle immensely with vulnerability and think they can choose to only be vulnerable with someone they are in a secure committed relationship with but this puts the cart before the horse. A deep committed connectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:17 PM
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They are just projecting disgust they have for the men that do approach them. The men who do approach them do shower and have jobs, but because the men who approach them aren’t the men they want to be approached by it makes them feel unattractive. They use these terms because men who don’t shower are gross and the men who approach them make them feel gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:27 PM
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Women who try to force men into trad gender roles while trying to not adhere to themselves live lives of getting pumped and dumped. There exist no men who like this dynamic. Trad men will see you as useless and your desire for trad dynamics will scare away liberal men. Whores like this will literally try to emasculate men by saying that men who don’t like this are boys meanwhile they aren’t really “women” themselves: just a whore. Never had this issue dating women with careers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:24 PM
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I will say when it comes to your situation, it typically means that the man is doing things that most people would see as embarrassing if made public. You probably were publicly stating the dynamic of your relationship and a lot of people see people who have your dynamic as something that men would be publicly embarrassed to admit. While you probably see it as something to brag about, most people see the issue is that the man is doing things that would indicate he lacks self respect. Likewise th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:23 PM

I’m not saying that people who don’t put their money where there mouth is should be given benefit of the doubt. It takes zero resources and the time it takes to ask a single vetting question is a few seconds. And no this doesn’t have to risk your safety (says the girl who puts her socials on her dating profile). Shows you don’t really care much about your relationships. Again it’s a decision informed by illusory opportunity costs/grass is greener mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:10 PM
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What you “deserve” starts at zero with each new person you meet and you build from there. The idea that a partner is your constellation prize for living a life is new social media quasi narcissistic brain rot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:35 PM

Again just like all the other people I’ve replied to: None of this is mutually exclusive. You can both judge people for their actions as well as having open, honest and trustful communication. People who do both get objectively better results. You’re the one who thinks she accepts dates from liars
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:33 PM
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9 matches are 2/3 of your matches? Rookie numbers lol But I’m sure you got worse screenshots than these lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:40 AM
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This guy apparently? Have you seen how queer/fet people often introduce themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:31 AM
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So you chose to swipe on someone named magic tongue and you gave the audacity to get mad at this!?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:28 AM
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If it was harassment then you could report it and get him banned
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:27 AM
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That this guy is a sub? What’s wrong with that? Fine if it’s not your thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:26 AM
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Your preference
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:26 AM
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You asked for this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:25 AM
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Again your preference that you don’t like transactional relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:25 AM
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This is funny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:25 AM
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Trashy. But again not anti social. You’d hate feeld lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:25 AM
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Now this one is for sure sus, but still more likely than not total lack of self awareness like French kiss guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:24 AM
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Soliciting nudes as a first message is for sure trashy af. But again not anti social as he isn’t demanding them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:23 AM
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Bad “French Kiss” line But wild to assume this means he’s rapey
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:22 AM
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Also nothing wrong here. You don’t share his kink preference. Men are allowed to have kinks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:22 AM
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So you don’t like transactional relationships. Your preference. Not anti social
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:21 AM
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Insecure women tend to project that people who are sexually attracted them are devaluing their other non sexual traits
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:38 AM

Has nothing to do with time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:07 PM
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And what exactly is an abusive message? Are they threatening violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:46 PM
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So they send an abusive message within 3-5 replies?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:39 PM
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What colors are these? Like he just wants to hook up even though that’s already usually listed on the profile so usually a non issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:16 PM
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Most women are flooded with matches which means they thought those options were decent enough to swipe on then they proceed to not talk to most of their matches. How can you know whether a match is quality or not if you don’t talk to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:18 PM

Depends. Some women with big friend groups it doesn’t feel like you are dating an individual but rather the hive mind of her friend group. It feels like you have no privacy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:44 PM
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Doesn’t matter the quality. They are swarmed to begin with and for some reason women choose to keep swiping on more people despite having people who are waiting for their reply. It’s not as if women actually know whether their options are decent or not because they aren’t talking to them. Hinge has been updating their app to prevent women from abusing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:41 PM
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My ratio is that for about every 5 yes’s to dates there are 2-3 ghosts and you’ll get stood up once. Granted, I have also had several weeks where I’ve had 2 dates a week and 3 dates one time. I really couldn’t make rational decisions and I was going through the motions. If it feels like you are talking to a woman who is going through the motions, then she simply has too much on her plate and she most likely swipes on apps compulsively. Hinge is the only app that prevents this as it won’t let you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:39 PM
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Men who had a sexually fulfilling youth are less tempted in marriage. Lots of “beta” men who marry were less sexually active at a young age so they are going to be more tempted to cheat to see what they missed out on. This is the real reason why women avoid older male virgins. You’re almost guaranteed to be his practice fuck and few men only one 1 sexual partner for their entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:57 AM

“Demonize” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:43 AM
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It still creates a receipt for the liar to be held accountable to. It will just make that much more obvious if they don’t put their money where their mouth is I think it’s pretty clear in OP that I’m not suggesting verbal vetting should be the only form of vetting but that people who forgo it for other kinds of vetting are simply vetting with fewer tools in their tool belt
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:36 AM
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Alpha skeets beta cheats more like
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:30 AM
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That’s my point: women feel it is superficial to judge people based on their physical attractiveness so they use character assassination as a crutch to rationalize their lack of attraction. Women feel judged harshly for their looks so they use character assassination to avoid feeling hypocritical I don’t see why you’d think my OP is questioning that these women aren’t into the men they character assassinate. I’m not arguing that. But they typically aren’t rejecting the actual person in front of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:43 AM
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If you make up your mind about someone without talking to that person then relationships may not be for you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:33 AM

I don’t date women like this lol These observations about women do not affect how I conduct my dating apart from that I just avoid people like this (not that I don’t end up on dates with people like this but I’ll set a boundary)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:39 AM

Where did I say crazy? It’s wild to seek out posts on the internet of men being shitty and then using that as a way to inform your approach to dating. That’s what incels do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:38 AM
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But you didn’t get fucked over. You just think you will because you’re playing armchair psychologist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:54 AM
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Agree with the first part, but the second part implies that you don’t trust the person from the start. I think everyone starts at neutral and then prove why they are compatible. The idea that you prove that you aren’t going to fuck them over is trying to prove a negative and thus not a logical. If someone is going to screw me over, I’m not going to waste time trying to use shit tests and vibe checks to try to glean what they might do to me. I give benefit of the doubt until I get fucked over the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:38 AM
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Sounds like a you problem my guy A+ feedback lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:07 AM
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Yeah most TRPers are not the ones women are racking up their n count with. Most TRPers are just like the women who think all men lie: they had some traumatic experience that probably wasn’t actually that traumatic, but was humiliating enough for them that they are TRP as a defense mechanism. The loser women in this thread think men lie and loser TRPers think most women are hoes and only the minority of women who are modest. The fact that they think this, just shows their lack of experience and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:57 PM
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Again the reason why men slut shame is because TRPers get embarrassed dating a woman with a higher body count than their own If TRPers had high body counts then they wouldn’t slut shame as much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:24 PM

“Reads story on Reddit about a man lying. Assumes men are liars.” -terminally online misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:22 PM
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This is a you problem not a man problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:04 PM
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I’m not saying they do. Men don’t need redpill if they are already getting laid. They don’t slut shame due to patriarchy, they slut shame women to feel better about not getting their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:01 PM
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That’s an adjacent but not totally the same problem. I address this in OP as well: women use these snap judgements to justify avoiding the men they don’t find attractive. This doesn’t mean they are chattiest with the men they want the most. If anything insecure women will be more passive communicating with a guy they want the most because they want to see him extend himself for her. A lot of men on tinder feel like they are just on the other side of the spectrum and if they were attractive enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:37 PM
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My argument would still be that direct communication does not necessarily endanger you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:22 PM
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Women aren’t forced to stay in relationships with expiration dates. It’s not men’s fault that you’re a manic pixie dream girl. Hence why I personally do agree with your statements about investment (and yeah 6-12 month mark is a good time frame)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:16 PM
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I used to think this, but the reality is that insecure women use passive communication to feel validation that the man “really wants her.” Being a passive communicator is itself a shit test that insecure women do. It was a big eye opener for me when I got a bunch more matches (quality didn’t increase much but quantity did) after putting a shirtless selfie on my profile. A lot of these women still communicated just as passively but now they were just saying yes to the date. Attractive women who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:14 PM
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You don’t have to. I think it’s fine if you don’t want to be casually dating but would still like to be in relationships before settling down and starting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:04 PM
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And this is because serial abusers have been conditioned to pass shit tests and they take advantage of the fact that women are uncomfortable asserting boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:01 PM
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Ok well that’s usually much further down the road than what I’m talking about in OP. The “medium term” relationship is popular among men in their 20s who are not settled in their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:51 PM
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They don’t have to. Women don’t communicate well enough on apps generally for me to buy the idea that they have no choice but to make snap judgments. It’s usually just a girl who collects more matches than she can talk to for validation. The irony is that secure attractive women swipe much less often and don’t purposely match with men they don’t invest in interacting with. Just buy the coffee meets bagel stats and you’ll see that attractive women respond at a higher rate and send more first mess…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:47 PM
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So do you ask if they are just looking for sex? Or again do you just choose not to waste literally 15 seconds of your time because you assume he’ll lie? Men aren’t evil for wanting casual sex so it isn’t rude to ask the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:42 PM
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Im not talking about the other person im talking about yourself. I do not “act guarded” to protect myself. I am independent and secure enough in my own life that if I get fucked over, I have the self respect and agency to remove myself without traumatizing myself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:41 PM
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People don’t communicate enough on the apps for us to truly blame the apps for how people act. It’s definitely mutually reinforcing but it’s more that apps encourage people to cultivate their existing prejudices: not that apps make people prejudiced
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:38 PM
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At what point do you feel you are worth the investment to a man? Should it be the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:36 PM
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Just because you have a deeper relationship with someone doesn’t mean that the relationship CHANGES YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:35 PM
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No I don’t think verbal communication is a time inconvenience as people are saying. If you can’t even be bothered to ask a question then how is going on a date any more convenient? I’m saying that women see verbal communication as creating an opportunity cost because why put the effort when I can just keep dating until I find someone I can’t make snap judgements about (who often end up having more dark triad traits ironically)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:32 PM
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Again this isn’t much different than assuming men are liars. Emotionally healthy men get angry sometimes and having conversations about said anger is also healthy. Negative past experiences do not justify unhealthy relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:27 PM
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Asking someone why they react a certain way is not controlling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:24 PM
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If something is non existent, you still have to nurture it so that it grows into something that exists. It makes no difference if someone passes your shit tests or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:24 PM
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People who act differently in the talking vs a relationship are typically playing games. I do not avoid direct communication because I’m not in a long term relationship with someone because then literally every relationship will start on the wrong foot and assumptions we are making about each other that may not be true and will end the relationship. It’s not only toxic but it is foolhardy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:23 PM
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Accusatory to someone violent. But again you’re assuming that asking someone why they had the emotional response they had will result in violence. (Eg men can’t be angry so women date abusive men who repress their emotions)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:21 PM
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God bless you know how relationships work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:20 PM
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“Thorough enough” Is still less thourough. No one is so busy that asking a question is a waste of time. You’re just rationalizing avoiding uncomfortable conversations that are necessary for relationships to grow And my point is that often the incompatibility an assumption made by the behavior rather than the behavior itself being problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:19 PM
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That’s what I mean: women tend to think that such questions are rude while also making their decisions about relationships without actually involving the other person. Personally, I think most people just see what their lifestyle is and decide if the way they live is compatible. Usually financial solvency is an issue discussed once you are at the point in the relationship where financial liability is a concern. Unless the relationship is transactional, this doesn’t usually happen until cohabitat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:17 PM
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Why even date if you have this perspective? Aren’t you just wasting everyone’s time because you assume even your partner is morally corrupt? What’s the point apart from you wasting the time of people who are actually sincere?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:10 PM
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No it’d just less thorough vetting. More thorough vetting is both verbal and non verbal communication. Less thorough is just non verbal. The idea that verbal communication=deception is not protection, it is just fearful-anxious attachment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:09 PM
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Not necessarily. Often these women are permanently on guard. Some anticipate a 7 year itch. Some don’t trust he will be the same after marriage or children or menopause. Plenty of women go through their entire life being guarded. And imo this is the perspective of someone who does not have secure attachment. People with secure attachment give benefit of the doubt until trust is broken. They do not start with them not trusting the person as default. This is just an uncomfortable courtship ritual …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:07 PM

Oh look another person who assumes their partner is a liar Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:03 PM
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Sure only if you think you can glean “everything you need to know” based on their actions. Not an excuse to not verify that. And it shouldn’t change whether their actions say something negative or positive about them. Even if you can be communicated things that are positive non verbally, that is also not an excuse to avoid verbal communication. It’s all just bad relationship habits
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:01 PM
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The thing is “observations” and “communication” are not mutually exclusive. And yeah they get upset so they slut shame to get back at women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:57 PM
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Two things: Incompatibility with someone expressive is a real incompatibility. But the danger is also that this can provide a false sense of security among men who are repressed as you may not feel direct communication is necessary because they “seem” ok. Secondly is just that there is an association between male anger and violence. IMO men need a safe space to express their anger openly in order to have a healthy relationship. If that is triggering, then that is incompatibility as well. I do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:50 PM
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Auditions vet for aptitude not compatibility. And I agree I don’t date women like that. I even go on dates and call the behavior out in real time and am clear that I don’t like that as I am comfortable asserting boundaries with strangers (perhaps a male privilege). But a lot of this is that women can feel uncomfortable asserting boundaries due to risks they face, but by the same token, a lot of women engage in nasty behavior with the men they date that is often worse than asserting and do so wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:32 PM
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Appreciate the clarification. I am using it informally here and don’t mean it as libel or slander: I mean it as making negative unverified assumptions about someone. It’s not premised on that. My argument kind of the inverse: people avoid direct communication due to dunning Kruger causing them to over inflate their ability to vet people via other means (see “he invited me to a party as a first date so he just wanted casual sex” comment below). And the idea that direct communication is not only n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:23 PM
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“Hey I notice you’re taking me out to really nice places but you live at home. Can you explain your situation for me?” Insecure feminine energy often prevents women from communicating clearly and asserting boundaries because they project that doing so is rude or that they assume men are liars
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:18 PM
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But you’re not wasting your time. That’s how you’re supposed to have a healthy relationship: clear communication. You only think you are wasting your time because you think a bunch of men who want to sleep with you=men who want to have the relationship I want. The reality is that grass is greener mentality is pointless if you can’t even be bothered to water the grass you are currently standing on. You’re literally just admitting that you don’t believe communication is important for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:17 PM
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I’ve already addressed this and you are assuming I’m a liar so kinda confirming my post. You can verify if someone is lying or not. Assuming it won’t get you far
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:11 PM
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You’re not being particularly specific here. Did you communicate this was a boundary? If no then how were they supposed to know it was a boundary? And if you did communicate it, then why wouldn’t you say “hey this was a boundary I communicated, why do you think it was ok for you to cross it?” If they get defensive, then I can see why ditching the guy is warranted. How do you know someone is living above their means if you don’t have their financials? And yeah pretty wild assumption on your part …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:11 PM
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I don’t think you’re really contradicting me here. It’s all monkey see monkey do with assuming the worst about people. It is fundamentally insecure feminine energy. Men who are secure are fine to give people benefit of the doubt until the person they give benefit of the doubt fucks up then they have the self respect to leave that person. Assuming the worst about people really doesn’t help to prevent these situations as much as people think it does. It’s just arm chair psychology These folks shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:06 PM
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I feel like if you’re a woman who has these thoughts then that’s just confirmation that you’re an undesirable partner As soon as you commit to a mating strategy that assumes the opposite gender is disingenuous, then you’re no longer able to have authentic romantic connection. These types of coping mechanisms are for people who lack the emotional resilience to have functioning long term relationships. These are the people who get burned and then define their personality as a woe as me narrative. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:39 PM

Ofc! I think the other issue is that there almost is no flattering dating content that comes from either gender. So it’s not like you can even train the algo to show you positive stuff I like Dr max butterfield on Instagram lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:12 PM

It just seems like it’s everywhere because you have an obsession that the algo picked up on
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:07 PM

So you don’t have male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:06 PM

AWORALT all women on Reddit are like that hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:01 PM

“If you look hard enough, you’ll find a man on social media saying something that confirms my prejudices” Kinda weird to categorize your non romantic relationship priorities based on gender. Most of my friends are women. It’s not like I have a quota for how many or few people I want in my life based on gender. I can only see that making sense if you reduce a gender to a stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:52 PM

I don’t think so. I do agree with OP that this is a cultural pendulum that swung in the other direction. I don’t think the fact that women were financial slaves meant they secretly wanted to date someone who is physically as attractive now. It’s definitely social media that has influenced the ceiling of standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:55 PM
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Goes both ways: trad con girlies now have a caricature of what masculinity is and if you’re a straight man who doesn’t present gender conforming then they see you as less of a man. And queer girlies will see you as an imposter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:10 PM
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I agree. Zoomers seem highly dependent on archetypes to validate their world view. They have a narrow view on what people of all genders and sexual orientations SHOULD behave like. Queer but you dress preppy? Zoomers hate it. Straight man but you speak in a higher register and like to talk about tea? Zoomers hate it. It’s like they hate to see heteronormative behavior that doesn’t offend them. It’s as if some zoomers are so miserable they WANT people to conform to their offensive stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:07 PM
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Younger generations are ironically wayyyyy more sensitive to gender non conforming behavior despite being more feminist on paper than millennials, but I think millennials are fundamentally more inclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:45 AM
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Haha if you have to do that to incentivize someone to marry you then you simply weren’t desired enough as a partner to begin with and you are building your marriage on a house of cards. Like if he’s not marrying you when you cook for him, why would not cooking make him want marry you? It would simply be easier to find another woman and date her if she cooks before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:49 PM
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It’s not the failure itself but the response to it: internal vs external locus of control. Culturally we overemphasize internal locus of control for men and we overemphasize external locus of control for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:06 PM
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The better question to ask is: how did women gain the agency to be hypergamous in the 20th century? Redpill for some reason thinks hypergamy is a female state of nature when it’s a relatively new phenomenon. For most of history, daughters were effectively the family’s property. They’d use their daughter to attract wealth, thus it was the will of the parents for women to have transactional relationships and it was rarely a trade between beauty and wealth, but more often YOUTH and wealth. Most peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:10 PM
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Point is that self regulation is where men on average rank higher than women with respect to emotional intelligence. Men and women are not as far apart in terms of emotional intelligence as we think because it is easy to label men’s ability to self regulate and manage stress as repression. And we can overestimate women’s emotional intelligence because we often perceive emotional=emotionally intelligent. And I think when a lot of women complain about lack of emotional intelligence, it is often th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:36 PM

She backtracked. Then proceeded to ignore most of the data Typical scorned woman Now is moving goalposts because she can’t be bothered to read the actual stat on how many couples are where men are breadwinners so she’s trying to infer that the obvious is incorrect through ancillary data that doesn’t actually confirm what she’s saying. But she ofc could just look up how many couples are where men are the breadwinner but that would be too simple
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:35 PM

Most couples are where men are the breadwinner Man (46.7+4.4+1.4)=52.5 Woman (33.4+9.4+7.3)=50.1 And in egalitarian couples, women don’t do more than what men do in breadwinner couples. It’s less than a 2 hour difference so this hardly confirms the “women do double the work” hypothesis. It’s only where women make more where the lazy man trope makes sense. This is where the data exposes the deadbeat dad phenomenon but that isn’t most men. Angry internet women think most men are like deadbeat dads
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:27 PM

Hours contributed to household=paid work+housework+caregiving Combine the three and men do more on average what do you know
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:08 PM

The data is clearly separated by parents vs husband and wife and has a caregiving column. What is this caregiving column measuring? Where is this amendment? Can you give a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:03 PM

Time for men to grow tits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:56 PM

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-child-care-market-trends-132300714.html But go ahead and rationalize why literally pew data is underestimating what women contribute PPD hates stats for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:50 PM

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/st_2023-04-13_breadwinner-wives_08-png/ (Most couples are where men are the bread winner) And in egalitarian couples, women don’t put more hours relative to their partner than men do in breadwinner couples: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/st_2023-04-13_breadwinner-wives_06-pn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:44 PM

The amount they work more than women exceeds the difference in leisure time: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/st_2023-04-13_breadwinner-wives_08-png/ (Most couples are where men are the bread winner)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:42 PM

When combining paid work and domestic labor, men contribute more hours to the household than women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:26 PM
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I’m not saying they are? I’m just asking why misogyny isn’t a deal breaker for SO MANY women? Kyle Rittenhouse just got married. If Trump got divorced, he’d have women lined up to marry him. Why are there almost like a seemingly endless supply of women that high status misogynists to go through? Where does this supply of women come from? Do you think they come from households with fathers who abused their wives but treated their daughters well so the daughter has positive associations to misogyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:23 PM
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Then they suffer dunning Kruger when the relationship guy they ignored the red flags with blows up in their face and they say “ugh my intuition is always right, why did I do that”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:04 PM
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Why are women so willing to toss morals out the window when choosing misogynists to have their children and thus endanger other women by making sure misogyny stays in the gene pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:08 AM

It’s a skit. But if this is cruel to you then please seek mental health assistance. Seriously. Like hate to see society go down this track. This is all just getting so gross now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:14 PM
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Yes women who have sex before commitment are not using sex to manipulate someone into a relationship. You use sex as a carrot to manipulate men into giving you commitment that they will readily give up when they find someone else who is easier than you because the only people who date people who withhold sex are celibate people who agree on their values. You said “it’s about vetting and seeing if actually likes the person he’s dating” so yes just because you had sex sooner than later doesn’t mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:26 PM
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Yes picking men who are choosing to have sex with you instead of other people is the definition of not using sex to manipulate someone and is how actual trustful monogamy is established. It is delusional to think that men who have sex with you sooner than later won’t like you as a person. The timing of having sex has literally nothing to do with whether they like you as a person or not. Moreover the dynamic of the relationship changes after you have sex. They may have liked you as a friend but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:03 PM
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Withholding sex is using sex to manipulate someone girly. Then after you have sex how every arbitrary months in, how do you keep him after that? Does making a guy wait make you feel “safe?” Do you think men prefer to be committed with women who manipulate men with sex? If anything guys who wait for sex are the ones more desperate for it and would be more likely to jump at the opportunity the next chance they get because they don’t get many chances. Date the guy who has sexual options but is choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:34 PM
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STDs and unwanted pregnancy is an education issue. The point is you have to explore yourself. Ofc your drunken one night stand is going to be mid. And that’s my point: women are trying to use their looks and sex to bargain for relationships and it’s failing hard. New tactic needed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:29 PM
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This is why a sex negative society is bad for relationships. A thriving hookup culture means that people enter relationships with honest intentions. Relationships improve when casual sex is accessible to as most people as possible. When people stopped having as much sex (early 10s) we transitioned from hookup culture to situationship culture. Women (and tech companies) wanted women to retain their sexual value as means of bargaining for the best partner they can get. This has been a massive expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:26 PM

Most women don’t verify their intuition imo and they tend to hyper fixate one the one time they ignored their intuition and it bit them in the ass and they use that as a way to rationalize why the assumptions they have about others are correct and don’t need verification
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:27 PM
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I guess you’d assume that if you’re immature
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:14 PM
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Arguably a lot of women are doing 4B without realizing it. A lot of incels don’t necessarily call themselves that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:10 PM
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I think a lot of it is parental shame and guilt by fathers. Fathers say “boys only want one thing” and then this scares young women into having very irresponsible committed relationships at an early age where they are not mature enough yet to “play house” and then miss out on a lot of sexual self exploration. I think late Gen X and early millennials have the women who were most free in this aspect And then there is parental shame generally where if a girl brings home a boyfriend who isn’t someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:57 PM
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IMO that’s only if you are sexually dysfunctional and/or emotionally unavailable. Which may be most (single) women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:53 PM
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4B still implies relationships with men are a choice. A lot of women simply cannot do better than a 6-8 month situationship and they need outside guidance and advice to improve this. But most double down with misandrist rationalizations and try to make their lack of success a men’s problem because social media has destroyed female ego. This is like saying MGTOW=redpill And pink pill has not been advice for women from the perspective of having an internal locus of control. It’s just doubling down…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:50 PM
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Dating is hard for women because we don’t think women do anything wrong in relationships so we don’t give women advice on how to be better partners and now women flounder in the post talking phase part of dating. Wish we could replace the word “femcel” with something like “relationcel” because it is the “involuntary” part that is more important. Women are choosing not to have sex but they seeming can’t choose to have the relationships they want despite men statistically wanted committed relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:26 PM

I’m comparing misogyny to racism. Men are fine to lust after what they hate but also that women are professional character assassins and enjoy projecting their trauma onto half the world
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:12 PM
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Misogynists are to women what Sean Penn’s character in One Battle After The Other is to black women. Patriarchy depends on female labor. It’s only misandrists who hate men so viscerally that they are disgusted at the thought of any association with the other gender. “Nasty women” arguably hate men more than misogynists hate women Misogynists can even be traumatized by a woman and then not project those stereotypes onto all other women. They will just cling to their narrow set of beliefs that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:31 AM

Looks alone will get you a 6-8 month situationship max. I can assure you the best looking woman I’ve dated did not get the most effort from me. In fact, this girl in particular got some of the least amount of effort from me And it’s about half and half. Half of the very attractive women I’ve dated feel that looks are just what they bring to the table and the other half are cognizant of the fact that their looks tend to sabotage the possibility of sincere and authentic connections so often the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:57 PM

There’s just a small group of women who have mediocre sex with men who are much more attractive than they are and then they have rose tinted goggles about it when the short balding guy probably has way better head game. She just came due to the fact that an attractive man made her forget her insecurities and made her feel excited even though the sex was probably actually mid. Men need to stop feeling insecure about your woman’s past lovers. She’s just with you now as someone with similar SMVs an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:51 PM
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TIL those are two different words
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:43 PM
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I agree but body language will never replace asserting boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:20 PM
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Yes you’re not supposed to take terminally online misandrists seriously. Most women are WEARY of men not fearful of men generally. Most women are still imo more approachable than most men. But you do need to be cognizant of when women feign politeness to avoid conflict. I do think this is becoming more and more common again (I think this was common for women pre sexual revolution and women continued to become better with asserting boundaries, but a lot of that progress has been erased post socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:38 PM
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This is just a glimpse behind the curtain of which women you are talking to on Reddit. Reddit is primarily an amab space. The few minority of women who do frequent Reddit come to Reddit knowing it’s an amab space. They are here explicitly to see the “man zoo” and find fodder to hate so their miserable lives have more meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:47 PM
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Yes women are knowingly choosing to stay with men who aren’t into them and choose to not date the men who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:20 PM
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The point is that men don’t have options. They choose being alone or someone they tolerate. It’s just silly because women don’t really want to date anymore so it’s not like men have a choice except to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:16 PM
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Why is it men’s fault that they are with women who aren’t their type?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:14 PM
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It’s funny how women think they are black belts for vetting men who they are incompatible with yet they simply can’t decenter men when it comes to vetting them for the kind of interest they show in you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:13 PM

It’s a cycle. the discard cycle isn’t permanently getting rid of you. It’s designed to get you crawling back to them. Then they become nice to you again and the cycle repeats
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:14 PM

Sexually appealing≠looks for women. It is a combination of looks, personality, humor and health Nor do women associate money with sexual competence. It matters for the scope of long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 08:22 PM
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Social media pop psych is basically just a huge industry that preys on women with fragile egos. Even some of the older bimbofied dating gurus are starting to call this stuff out now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:57 PM
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Again that’s just cope. People don’t leave satisfying sexual relationships. Men will start rosters before they leave a woman they enjoy sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:47 PM
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You’re literally just describing someone who changed their mind about you. Was he insincere? Who knows! But the fact that he left you isn’t evidence that it was insincere The entire point of love bombing is that it is a form of narcissistic abuse intended to form toxic attachment. If he left you then clearly he doesn’t want you attached to him
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:41 PM
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No this is just betabux for unattractive men. Men who are sexually appealing don’t really have to make the same demonstrations. It’s only a factor for the defining the scope of a long term relationship, not her interest to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:22 PM
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These sound like broke women problems to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:21 PM
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No love bombing in its actual form, not what weak women complain about, is narcissistic abuse and pretty classic bad boy behavior. Love bombing implies a discard cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:42 PM
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Love bombing in its current pop psych brainrot form is just cope for women who struggle with emotional vulnerability Love bombers don’t pump and dump. If you got pumped and dumped then you weren’t love bombed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:25 PM
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I’m not I’m just saying “getting dates” doesn’t mean your strategy is working. But there are plenty of studies showing relationships have higher success rates when women initiate https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/love-sex/women-first-move-men-love-lucky-success-relationship-study-a8220701.html
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:45 PM
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Getting dates isn’t some sort of goal to strive for. Dates are a means to an end. So imo if your approach isn’t leading to relationship satisfaction then you’re not above criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:11 PM
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Oooofff been saying this on this sub for a while Fathers telling their daughters when they meet a new boy “boys only want one thing” Translation: I disappointed young women when I was a teenager by having bad sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:55 AM
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Women have absolutely no legitimate reason to be mad at men who only want sex from them and nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:22 PM

Assuming someone is insecure without actually interrogating their motives is character assassination No most people do not hide their true selves. Assuming people are liars is also character assassination. It’s all just an excuse not to have tough conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:42 PM

I don’t think anyone is assuming there are no underlying values. People just seem to assume what those values may be despite there being a variety of values that may motivate such a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:08 AM

Understandable. Just don’t get mad if someone leaves you after you’ve invested in them if you divulge info they don’t like. Although I’m sure you’d do your diligence to know that wouldn’t happen but there always will be a risk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:14 AM

Ofc everyone has a right to privacy. My comment doesn’t contradict this so I frankly don’t understand your reply apart from it just being deflection. And I have the right to ask why you’d want that privacy in a relationship. Just because you say it’s irrelevant doesn’t make it irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:09 AM

I don’t see why privacy about sexual history is important for a person you have a long term relationship with. What’s the point apart from not wanting to be judged for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:02 AM

So you assume that men who express this preference IRL are secretly withholding misogynistic views that you see on Reddit? You perceive Reddit as “what men really think?”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 09:00 AM

So you’re saying men try to attract women with similar preferences by shaming high n count women? How do you know he would want to be promiscuous if he could? This sounds like another assumption to me. .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:55 AM

So if a guy says he only wants to date low n count women, what reason would you need to assume he’s misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:48 AM

Why do so many women have a knee jerk response to perform character assassination immediately when they hear someone who has a differing preference? Ofc there are men who want low n count women for misogynistic reasons, but do you actually stop to examine whether the person in front of you actually has those misogynistic motives or do you just assume it outright and then wait to see if he proves that he isn’t misogynistic? If women are so proud of their intuition, then why do they so rarely atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:44 AM
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Women who are repulsed my expressions of weakness are just women who can’t regulate their nervous system well enough to have functioning relationships. Stop crying over spilt milk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:40 AM
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Humans are pretty pathetic in that we abandon relationships during economic hardship. Like you can still fuck and support one another without money. But it’s like we are incapable of being social creatures unless we are associating with people who provide material benefit. It’s like our genitals are capitalist pigs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:38 AM
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Most men don’t not have pedo fantasies and i just assume women who say this are bitter about getting less attention when they are older as if men are pedophiles to be attracted to women in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:52 AM
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And I’m saying if your partner feels emasculated by you being dominant then you clearly didn’t “vet” very well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:51 PM
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Plenty of cishetmen would love to be led but there aren’t many women good at it because they have a caricature of masculinity in their head Women who ignore the fact that on average men are better leaders and women better followers in relationships tend to be low EQ in relationships. Not that exceptions to the norm exist, it’s just usually women trying to force a dynamic onto a man they are attracted to and not a man they are compatible with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:32 PM
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And that changes the argument how? You think “lead and follow” disappears because the partners are the same sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:23 PM
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I’m still tired of leading women who are in infantile energy not feminine energy. Feminine energy is being led, but it’s not a charity. Feminine energy, while being led by masculine, creates synergy and provides a roadmap for men to lead women on. This is why Tango compared to other traditional dances is so much sexier. Tango involves women almost mirroring men every step of the way and is more fluid. This is why other dances give a more “father-daughter” dynamic. Too many women who want to be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:18 PM

And imo the obsession with fae/supernatural men in erotica is an expression of their hatred toward “real men”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:05 PM

Not if vibrators, erotica and SSRIs have anything to say about it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:59 PM

Once women gained more financial independence, we are just seeing all the women who really never wanted a relationship in the first place simply making that choice rather than being forced to be with a man she has to lie about loving. These women were never romantically inclined in the first place and only see relationships as a means to an end for personal gain The requirement that successful relationships have upfront costs, require investment and some personal sacrifice disgusts them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:38 PM
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This echoes my above comment: Dating advice to men generally is just criticizing their competence. This isn’t really earth shattering nor is it even humiliating for men to hear The dating advice women need to hear is more along the lines of their moral decisions and toxic behavior. This criticism is inherently humiliating so we avoid giving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:26 PM
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Both genders are currently shitting the bed when it comes to relationships. We just have an approach that women’s shit doesn’t stink because telling men what they need to do for relationship success isn’t actually all that humiliating advice. Saying you need to get a good job, get in shape and have better self awareness is not embarrassing. I can see that the message to women won’t have as clear a solution. The ways they mess up relationships are much more due to psychological blind spots and to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:23 PM
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Dunning Kruger effect is real. So yeah people who think they can avoid deception often exaggerate their own ability to detect it…. But you also can’t see the people who avoid liars/manipulators in the fist place. The reality is that a lot of people who have experienced with manipulation often avoid it before the manipulator even decides whether they intend to manipulate or not. Dunning Kruger applies to manipulators/scammers too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:01 AM
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Again still doesn’t mean that they think their other characteristics are worthless. I can value the traits in someone without feeling the need to be in a relationship with them Whether or not someone wants a relationship with you is not an indicator of what your value is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:32 AM
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They just have a bad case of Prozac pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:48 AM
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Insecure women feel slighted when they think men only value them for sex. They think that men who only value them for sex must imply their other characteristics don’t have value but that’s just their own insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:45 AM
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There’s one Chinese study versus the literal dozens of studies showing men who don’t do their fair share of domestic tasks have worse sex lives This study is more or less saying people who are wealthy have more free time. So yes they have more sex and thus more orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:19 AM
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Women obsessed with providers don’t enjoy sex Equitable relationships pretty much unequivocally have more satisfaction. When one partner feels like they contribute more disproportionately (usually finances) this often means they feel entitled to not contribute as much in other areas. Basically men entering into transactional relationships don’t care about the sexual pleasure of their partners generally because to them, the sex they get is their reward for providing for her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:12 PM
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Thanks for being real. I’ve been saying on this sub forever that it isn’t about standards or having to be perfect. It is mostly the expectations vs reality issue and that women are realizing that the reality is not going to accommodate what their expectations are for a relationship. I do think you can have relationships that don’t give anxiety, but often these may require a lot of boundaries that have to be set as well as having a relationship that is smaller in scope. The “misogyny paradox” mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:26 PM
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The only people who don’t want to have small talk with strangers seem miserable to me regardless of gender. I make conversation with strangers all the time and it’s just part of being in a community. IME women are the most receptive to small talk with strangers. But there’s a clear sharp cut off with women close to my age as they project bad intentions on me if I try to make conversation. Most other people like pleasant conversation by contrast. But they tend to be older. But I would still say y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:45 PM

My initial comment is that we exaggerate the risks women face in public with strangers and we downplay the risks men face
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:16 AM

So basically you’re moving the goalposts to avoid addressing the fact that the statistical likelihood of men being victims of a violent crime committed by a stranger is more likely for them than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:13 AM
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Most murder is between two men. Women try to extrapolate the risks of IPV to all male strangers, which is no way to live imo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:48 PM
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It means you can market a lifestyle through your reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:18 AM

Don’t get in long term relationships with people who seek negatives not solutions. They can only advocate through shame, which means they want LTRs but cannot function properly inside them. Make sure that when you dump them that you realized that you fell in love with them, but they never actually loved you because they simply are not a person capable of loving another person until they work on themselves more. Always set a boundary with new partners that they advocate for themselves by at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:50 AM
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Hoping someday we can move on from “ew men are gross to not want to be in LTRs with overweight women” to “ew overweight women are entitled to think they can find an LTR with a man they find attractive. They shouldn’t expect more than casual sex from average weight men and these men aren’t evil for only wanting casual”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 10:51 PM
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So now we’ve moved on from strangers relationships to their own relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:16 PM
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No gossip is damaging. Without verifiable information, hearsay can genuinely be hurtful to people. It’s low Eq stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:56 PM
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If they are strangers to you then you most likely can’t assess the couple well enough to make a concrete judgement call. It’s just gossip at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:33 PM
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Because grooming and exploitation is a serious thing and if you think being nosy is a big enough reason for you to not intervene then you really don’t care Ofc I ask my male friends if they are ok with being treated that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:24 PM

The concept of leagues falls apart when you talk about race: Even white men on apps will mostly match with non white women. This isn’t because being a non white woman makes you less valuable. It’s just that white women are more desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:11 PM
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I don’t get the concept. Are these women not being “maintained” when they are single?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:51 PM
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My litmus test for this is if whether the person concerned for the woman confronts her, the couple or woman’s peers If they don’t feel comfortable doing so, that’s because they know that they are just being judgemental. If we actually were concerned about the woman’s safety then someone would say something about it. If they are gossiping from afar then they are most likely just someone miserable trying to feel morally superior
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:29 PM
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I’m not sure what this has to do with my comment. Most men who aren’t attractive enough for apps will lose their virginity elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:43 PM
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Hahaha this shit made people so mad Bait taken
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:54 AM
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Yep and realize that women use the apps for validation because she has exactly 4x the market value on the app vs real life. It can be easy to go down the misogyny rabbit hole if you judge women solely based on the women you meet on the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:36 AM
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It’s basically bottom 50% are invisible. Top 40% basically have to rely on luck. Top 20% are having lots of casual sex with women they don’t want to be in LTRs with because they can’t actually find women they want to be in LTRs with and the top 5% can date like the top 50% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:07 AM
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Whattaboutism is a cancer People who make whattaboutist arguments have anti social tendencies and are low EQ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:29 PM
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And so are the women with an obsession with it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:19 PM
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Lots of Redpill men are former losers who still often have weak dick despite the self improvement women don’t care as much about as they think. They are for sure more likely to be paranoid about getting cheated on so they tend to rationalize why women with male friends are to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:22 AM
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Yes. This is why we have the term for “frosh meat” meaning senior boys dating freshman girls. There are more relationships with a 3-7 year age gap between the older man and woman than 0-3. This is also in women’s best interest so that careers are offset and men tend to take about 5 years longer for their brain to fully mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:54 PM
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I find that creating an environment where the person feels like they are in a safe space then I can actually get to know the person for who they are rather than speculating what their intentions and motives are based on superficial observations about their affect
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:32 PM
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You just lack EQ then. Most people are anxious because they are walking on egg shells
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:32 PM
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Women assume that men who are timid and anxious are men who are concealing devious intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:12 PM
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There still are more age gap relationships with an older man than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:03 PM
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She can find an ambitious man then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:07 AM
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Most people with a “worth” mindset never end up in happy relationships. “Quality” means nothing if there isn’t chemistry and compatibility. The only people who feel like they need to go on a scavenger hunt to find “quality” partners are the people who don’t really have their priorities straight when it comes to successful relationships in the first place. They’ve convinced themselves that their lack of fulfillment is due to a lack of quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:04 AM
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White pill is basically optimism about a just world: eg dating is fair Blue pill imo is a reactionary ideology to redpill. It’s the notion that neoliberal social norms are the dominant social norms for dating. I don’t think blue pill assumes fairness, but it does dismiss a lot of complaints about dating as marginal issues and that for the most part, upholding neoliberal values will result in general dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:49 AM
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Ad hom is when someone claims an argument is invalid due to the person making the argument. Saying that I personally find that most women who go on tirades about how awful men are tend to be unattractive women with trauma is not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:03 AM
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But the issue is that bars now are full of women who aren’t single. It gets really old to take a girl home then next week you meet her bf at the bar. In my area, I’d guess about 70% of women at bars are not single so why are they there? Would they not be better suited for a women’s only club? It’s just bizzare to have women lament that men don’t want them to have girls nights out then these women in relationships have to have their girls nights out at a bar with single men. I remember one time a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:30 AM
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I still have no idea what I’m being defensive about. Objectification has overlap with hyper sexualization for sure but they aren’t the same. I’m not sure why you think I’m being defensive when I’m being critical of people who conceive objectification=hypersexual content for male gaze. These people exist whether you accept it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:14 AM
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Pretty women generally only hate on individual men. Literally all the women in my friend groups who go on rants about the nature of men have all been fairly overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:46 AM
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“Sex craved cheater” As in they don’t feel like being your only source of sex is a way to keep you loyal. I agree it’s visceral disgust. But I’d also argue that straight men who are sexually confident and also don’t feel the need to rely on relationships for sex can illicit a similar disgust from women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:26 AM
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They don’t like the power dynamic of you having easy access to casual sex. It makes you harder to manipulate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:07 AM
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Catcalling, workplace harassment (eg denying professional interaction and replacing it with a sexual one). It happens in media and advertising but I think most people have too broad a definition for objectification in media because this would also include objectification that isn’t sexually devious. “Hand model” would fit the definition of objectification then, but obviously that doesn’t zero in on what is problematic. IMO this ad is objectifying (although the cultural context of Chinese brides …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:57 PM
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lol what am I being defensive about It’s never the pretty girls in my friend groups who yap about how objectifying men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:45 PM
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Well my HS sweetheart was the last girl to dump me if you want to know lol So you’re a guy? Hard to tell. I wasn’t really making assumptions about you because I’m not some miserable terminally online human who makes assumptions about people based on their opinions. Who knows. Either you are pretty vanilla and have had maybe like 3-4 relationships or you do kink stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:44 PM
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So TL:DR there are only 3 pills so I picked the one that bothers me least. I’d argue like 30% of people who claim to be blue pill here are actually white pill
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:38 PM
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lol I want you to guess how the relationships are with women in my life so I can know how conceited you are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:34 PM
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No that’s still not objectification. Women who feel that their non sexual traits are being overlooked for sexual ones are not being objectified. Objectification is literally treating you as an object. As if your own wants and desires don’t matter and all that matters is that you are passive and that you let the person objectifying you have free use. This is why I am not attracted to hard subs as a soft dom. A lot of hard subs want me to have free use but I’m attracted to humans with agency and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:32 PM
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I’m just saying who the type is. They try to use male objectification as a way to generalize men as animalistic while simultaneously using their objectification as a subconscious way to affirm their own attractiveness which they are insecure about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:26 PM
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No men’s sexuality is much more well adapted to modern relationships. I think it’s women’s sexual caution that is a relic of prehistoric times that is actually more incompatible with modern relationships. Although I think women today are more repressed than even what their “natural” tendency is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:24 PM
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Not if they aren’t a lawyer lol They can make any assumptions they want. There’s a balance as I think cry wolf people end up shooting themselves in the foot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:22 PM
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Usually they are unattractive women who had experienced sexual trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:21 PM
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I get hit on by gay men all the time and it never feels that way. I don’t care how sexual someone is as long as they respect boundaries. Most people who flirt don’t think you’re some tease if you don’t give them physical touch in response. Personally I find that bi men can be a little creepier in that they try to bro out with you and connect with you on more personal level then they bait and switch and become sexual when the conversation didn’t feel that way from the start. If I was a woman, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:02 PM

He needs to see her tax returns to finish
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:58 PM
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Zoomers generally (men and women) don’t have social skills. So their gooner brains can only judge based on presentation for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:52 PM

When you get older you’ll learn that men approaching you isn’t a good indicator of how attractive you are. It’s the type of men who approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:49 PM
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“Limited information” is doing heavy lifting here If this info is verifiable by a third party then it is absolutely advised. If rumors then no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:45 PM

Yes. He is saying in theory the man is dating down but in practicality he is not due disproportionately higher demand men have for sexual relationships with women than vice versa. A woman has more options than a man with equal SMV on paper
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:42 PM

Women are hypocrites when they argue men want relationships more than women and then say in the next breath that men just want a porn star bang maid. Women hate accepting their own pussy privilege because it puts their sexual market value into context when they are discontent with their romantic life despite having pussy privilege. Pretty embarrassing when you lose at the dating game playing on easy mode
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:39 PM
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Again you’re assuming that I’m saying I want women to stop caring about things that they find unattractive. IMO women don’t prioritize attraction and sexual compatibility enough as those are not superficial things. And yes women are often attracted to men they are not sexually compatible with ironically. No woman has orgasmed by avoiding icks. Women cum by finding what they want. I’m saying some women don’t care enough about the things that actually matter when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:14 PM
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Assuming guilt isn’t accusing. You can assume whatever you want about someone but it’s different when you make a public accusation. An accusation is made presumably because someone has incriminating information. Your OP seems to put the cart before the horse and isn’t necessarily a bad argument, but it just seems like you don’t get the definitions. A trial is there to verify the veracity of the claims made by the accusation. “Believe women” was part of MeToo, because giving benefit of the doubt …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:26 PM
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Then what about women who are single or in a bad relationship who want to be in a good relationship? Should she double down and increase her “standards” further or is she simply not prioritizing the things that would actually contribute to a happy relationship? Personally I don’t think “high standards” are necessarily what contribute to women being discontent with their romantic life even if sometimes they have standards that will filter out a large amount of qualified candidates. It’s just that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:15 PM
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Does it make a difference if the person making you cum is drunk or not? I’d take an orgasm with a drunk stranger than bad sex with a friend I warm approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:01 PM
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Not into sex? What if you’re a good person? Then he may want more than sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:51 PM
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Who goes to clubs in expecting that people won’t try to make romantic advances? Those women only clubs need to become more popular
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:31 PM
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But isn’t the theme that it’s poor men who’d do better if women changed? OP is suggesting women would do better if women changed. Sorta like how we talk to incels
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:28 PM
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I don’t see what the post has to do with shyness
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:45 AM
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I’m honestly trying to figure out what your comment has to do with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:17 AM
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This sub is probably a more accurate representation of the average man than it is an accurate representation of the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:39 PM
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Soft bigotry of low expectations. Fathers have soft misogyny often towards their daughters often coupled with a mild pedophilia when it comes to being protective of their daughter dating other men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:12 PM
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Nothing wrong with insecurity or watching porn It’s a non issue for me bc I’ve never dated any woman who has an issue with it. I’ve dated a woman who was addicted herself and there were issues from it but not actually dealbreaking for me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:34 PM
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Why do you think I want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:44 PM
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Why do I have a knee jerk reaction to seeing women wanting men to watch no porn as being insecure? I’ve dated women who have watched more porn than me. Why no porn and not porn in moderation? Not everyone watching porn is addicted
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:20 PM
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They’re making the kids more sexist as evidenced by your sexist comment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:25 PM
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The very nature of gender segregated platonic friend groups is contributing to sexism among younger generations and leads them to see the other gender as subhuman It’s getting to the point where straight boys and girls are barely having any interaction until they start dating and this is fucking up the younger generations when dating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:41 PM
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No they are complaining because the men who passed their nitpick filters don’t want LTRs with them and some women will choose to be single instead picking the only options available to her for an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:11 PM
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No gender segregated platonic friend groups are a cancer
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:57 PM
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And women constantly think that some men are suggesting this as a remedy for the dating crisis that women who don’t enjoy sex with men claim doesn’t exist? They will ctrl f on any obscure forum to find some miserable dude making a rape joke then suggest that this is what incels generally think would help them (To the women about to reply to me, I have more sex than you)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:05 PM
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ND men are minority. The average woman is having a harder time converting dates into relationships than the average man even if the average man is having fewer dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:51 PM
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These are the questions that our educators need to answer but are failing to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:41 PM
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Parenting is things like teaching your kids manners. Teaching them to self regulate. Teaching social skills themselves are not curating a social environment. It’s not the same thing. A camp counselor for instance will schedule group activities. This isn’t parenting my guy. If educators of children are only doing the teaching part then that’s bare minimum. Sports for the most part have traditionally been the only alternative but we haven’t really adapted to younger generations
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:38 PM
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Yeah these men fail to set boundaries with their wife so they too are part of the toxic dynamic. I’m not defending “betas” here. You shouldn’t be in a relationship if you can’t be bothered to “address” an issue you have. It’s not a burden to communicate. You seem to be slipping from addressing to “solving.” They are not the same. If something bothers you and you can’t communicate that, then unless you’re a child, expecting someone to fix a problem you have that you don’t address is selfish. If t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:35 PM
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I’m not saying you should parent. Parents are responsible for raising a kid that can behave in school. But parents are not physically there to facilitate their social environment. They can arrange playdates with parents they know with kids but not much else
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:09 PM
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It’s not talking shit. My friend was a pre school teacher and she said that she doesn’t think parents raise boys properly and that she has to prevent them from growing up to become misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:07 PM
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Where am i suggesting that’s a solution. All I’m saying is that educators need to do better. If they were mostly men then I’d be saying that for them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:06 PM
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And the idea that somehow only one gender is to blame for the issue is wild to me. The gaslighting of men that the loneliness epidemic is somehow only the fault of men themselves is equally absurd. The fact that friend groups of younger generations are more gender segregated means that sexism is growing and it’s growing among both genders. Women no longer can claim to be moral paragons with respect to gender. Terminally online feminism has converted patriarchy from referring to white cis men of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:19 PM
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“My anecdote disagrees with you”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:05 PM
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No there needs to be an integration between the family and the education system rather than a wedge between the two where responsibilities are compartmentalized. A parent has a responsibility to raise a child such that they can behave in school. But parents are not at the school. The teachers are. So when it comes to socializing, the majority of that happens in school. Parents can only do so much. They can arrange play dates with parents of other children but I can’t really see what else is obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:44 PM
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The sheer ambiguity tells me you either don’t set boundaries or you resent these men for no good reason. Not like I haven’t had girls catch feelings for me either. But I just don’t write off that gender for platonic friendships as a result bc I’m not sexist lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:38 PM
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“Twice” Yep explains it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:21 PM
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I’m not saying they are causing the issue but the primary burden resides with them to help address the issue. It’s crazy to see women both have the majority of child care and education jobs while simultaneously criticizing boys for not doing their own part to prevent themselves from being lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:09 PM
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They’re not lying. Men just can’t find women that they want more than sex from. The vast majority of women who feel like the guy only wanted sex fail to realize they are a disappointment to the guy. Most men want LTRs and we are better at finding them in scorched earth conditions than women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:08 PM
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I’m saying you would not tolerate that energy if it wasn’t your female friends play flirting but one of your straight male friends. You will assume they have feelings about you that you’ll assume they’ll get sad about you don’t reciprocate. It’s mostly your narcissistic projection. Not every straight man who finds you attractive wants a relationship with you. Women talk as if there are all these men who want relationships with them and then complain that men don’t want relationships with them wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:21 PM
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I guess it’s what they are NOT doing rather than what they are doing. I would not be surprised if female teachers nowadays encourage kids to avoid boys who seem estranged and isolated. I also didn’t think much of it at the time, but ik women in pre school education who see toxic masculinity as a form of original sin that can only be corrected through their efforts as many have vocalized to me that they think cart Blanche that the parents of the generation raising boys today are inherently blind …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:18 PM
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This is because Gen z women are uncomfortable with setting boundaries and don’t want to be friends with men who find them attractive. And Gen z men are paranoid of being used by women. I find all my female friends attractive and platonic heterosexual relationships between millennial men and women and older can even involve play flirtation. I don’t think younger generations are comfortable enough with themselves to have these kinds of relationships. If there is a moment where a male friend shows …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:11 PM
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I went to private school and that’s not how it was for me. Public school curriculums need to incorporate not just anti-bullying campaigns (do these still exist) but also courses about gender and inclusive social practices. Even as an introverted kid, I grew up with kids who tried to include me in things and I would reciprocate. Now with smartphones, kids simultaneously lack real social skills while learning skills that encourage subterfuge via remote communication. We are well into an era where …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:02 PM
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Society perceives men with low self esteem above a certain age as liabilities to society and more likely to be a threat to innocents. This is why white collar men who are married can get away with so much. If you are a man with high self esteem and has surplus resources then you have license to do antisocial things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:47 PM
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Given that a huge part of the issue is how boys are treated in the education system, and most educators are women, then I’d say at least women may disproportionately be a part of the problem relative to men. We tell men to seek help from other men and go to therapy, but this assumes that the male loneliness crisis starts when men turn 18. It starts earlier so toxic masculine narratives of internal locus of control (eg fix your loneliness by lifting yourself from your bootstraps) tend to just mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:37 PM
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No (straight) men genuinely are better than women at finding committed LTRs. Gay men and straight women seem to be the worst at securing commitment from other people. (lesbians have the opposite issue of uHauling) While men struggle to get the date in the first place, men are better than women at converting those dates into an LTR. Many women often are their own worst enemy when it comes to this and don’t realize how often their demands for a relationship are precisely what pushes men away. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:29 PM
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Women are not willing to admit how frequently they are getting passed up on guys that they filter through on the apps. None of the men they want will give them the relationships they want. I recently updated my profile with a shirtless selfie and now i can go on multiple dates a week similar to women (yes it made a big difference. I am 6’3 and girls will assume you’re skinny if you don’t show your physique. Tall isn’t enough). But now I’m regularly going on dates with women who complain about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:01 PM
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Millennial friend groups were way more gender fluid than gen z. Gen z are literally being sexist on the premise that it’s feminist. I think the switch happened when it used to just be men interpreting friendliness as flirtation. As women have become terminally online, they have begun to assume flirtation from male friendliness like millennial incel men. You can’t ask any woman below the age of 28 “how are you” without her thinking you’re trying to have sex with her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:35 PM
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This isn’t how the dating market works. Because men demand relationships with women more than vice versa, this means that women don’t have to settle for someone who has the same traits as her. Women don’t need to be athletes to date one. An average weight/height man is not going to be as attractive as an average weight/height woman. The average weight/height woman is still going to be attractive to men who are physically more fit and healthy than her. Moreover the stats show that overweight wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:22 PM
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Because you can validate someone without agreeing with them? It’s not a false apology. I can understand how my actions can impact people but that does not necessarily mean I regret my actions. This is pretty basic emotional intelligence and I think these are where women tend to lack it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:58 PM
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I find terminally online women who criticize the “epidemic” to often be hypocritical in that they often don’t have straight male friends on the presumption they think all men are trying to have sex with them. People who think platonic friend groups should be gender segregated are part of the problem. If your friend group is exclusively women and queer men then I don’t really think you can speak on this issue without recognizing your part in causing it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:56 PM
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This is just because we put women on pedestals and see them as being emotionally superior to men. The reality is that if you be vulnerable to someone who is unstable then they will think you are unstable. Women who are not emotionally grounded will perceive male vulnerability as a signal to his incompetence and lack of reliability. These women don’t really deserve to be in relationships but male sex drive prevents these women from being accountable. The toxic dynamic is that men repress their em…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:50 PM
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The problem is that a lot of women feel “invalidated” so long as the man doesn’t fix what she wants fixed. I’ve had women tell me that I haven’t apologized for something that I immediately apologized to her for purely because I voiced that I had a different perspective on the issue after I apologized. She just forgot the apology because I didn’t do what she wanted ergo the validation was useless. Validation is only useful if the person isn’t entitled. If the person is entitled then validation an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:19 AM

Misogyny paradox forces women to feel shame if they are not in a relationship that is perceived in an idealistic way. (The misogyny paradox is that women feel like they are getting a raw deal no matter the relationship type: marriage limits her freedom but casual relationships diminish her feminine value) This creates myopia when they have relationship dissatisfaction because the actions required to solve the dissatisfaction usually would just result in further feelings of invalidation. To a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:15 AM
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I do think that hookup culture needs a jump start The kids are not having enough sex clearly. Zoomers take themselves too seriously and think they hold the knowledge to have a successful relationship when they are really just wasting time they could be gaining experience so they can have real skills for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:08 AM
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Women aren’t monolith. You can speak for yourself but you can’t speak for other women. Lots of career women want convenient boy toys. Some can only stand to date men who make more than them. They’re both neurotic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:23 AM
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circular argument. Sexual satisfaction is a physical skill. It’s not as if a man’s income has any affect on a woman’s ability to have an orgasm. The issue is less a black pill one but rather of internalized misogynistic narrative: women feel shame enjoying sex with men who aren’t providing or don’t have outstanding traits about them. Women see their sexuality as something to guard but as long as they feel that way, then they won’t have enjoyable sex lives. It’s the mentality of a breeding machin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:19 AM
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Yet again this assumes broken sexual dynamics. The only women who make money to be independent from men are the ones who don’t enjoy sex with men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:42 PM
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Why don’t we call women who are provided for by men “roommates?” Why do we only call men who make less money roommates and not wives? Again it just doesn’t translate to sexual dynamics. You can make less than someone but still be dominant. The idea that a man who makes less than you can’t take charge is just a bias, not a real instinct. I don’t buy AFBB, but the reality is that broke men can make women orgasm when men with money can struggle with dead bedrooms Women are failing to find relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:27 PM
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Most people with ok jobs can’t afford a home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:19 PM

You think men who can find sex also don’t have problems finding mates they want more than sex from? The reason why men don’t commit to a lot of women are the same reasons why some incels can’t get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:29 PM

Destroying gender norms because I already get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:12 PM

Why do you think the only men who say this aren’t getting laid? It’s like some sort of auto reply yall have as a shield for all criticism of the female gender. “He has problem with women? He probably just wants sex!” And yeah that’s often a sad truth that even men who have no success with women will still most likely not want much more than sex when he finds a woman. But unlike what you think, that’s not because he only wants sex. It’s because he can’t find a woman he likes enough to want more f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:51 PM
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I have no issues finding women to have sex with who make more money than me. But in the back of my mind I’m thinking “if you were a man and I was a woman, then so much more of your money would be used to invest in the relationship.” I’m still making most of the plans and paying for more dates than women who make more than me. IMO it’s also that these women need to let go of norms about them losing their femininity if they are investing more money into the relationship and letting go of the idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:43 AM
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Siblings are a good way to determine your looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:17 PM
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Evo psych also doesn’t even agree with the male provider dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:14 PM
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Just going to say that regulating your nervous system (eg stress management) to someone emotionally unintelligent will appear to be repression or avoidant behavior. Culturally right now we associate “emotional volume” with “emotional intelligence”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:19 PM
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I can count on one hand the amount of plumber butts I’ve seen and a good amount of them are women. I just have to step outside to start seeing women wearing yoga pants and athletic wear who shouldn’t be wearing it. I guess it’s just so normalized now. But I understand that the appeal is that it’s kinda like wearing your pajamas in public but people aren’t going to call you out for being a bum
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:41 PM
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We don’t notice it because the only men who wear revealing clothing are already super fit. The issue is that women who barely go to the gym wear revealing clothing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:27 PM
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Yeah I think OP should have said “men burn fewer bridges with friends”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:40 AM
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Has this ever been disputed? Reality is still that women produce a finite amount of eggs in their lifetime whereas men do not go through menopause. Statistically I believe it’s about 50/50 when it comes to which gender is responsible for pregnancy complications. But you also have to factor in that there are way more couples where the man is older so that also affects the spread
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:19 PM

I’m soft dom and I let pure subs I know that I am not attracted to women who don’t want any control because they seem like objects to me and I’m not attracted to objects. The idea that women think all men are hard doms is just hilarious to me. It’s projection because CNC is so common. It’s not necessarily themselves who have CNC fetishes but they are aware of how common they are among women so they assume that men “mirror” this frequency of fetish when in reality men prefer less dominant forms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:37 PM
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You don’t have to listen to us. Just listen to women who are happily married. I give every woman the benefit of the doubt that she’s a good lady. I don’t need to be guarded to protect myself from something I’ve built resilience toward. Only weak people approach life with a sense of caution that everything is going to turn out badly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:25 PM
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Lol whenever I see black pill stuff I just think about some fat slav dude who only wears sweats with his trophy girly. Dunno what they’re into tbh. The cultures that had family structure most destroyed by the state tend to be the cultures with the worst relationship norms. I’d suggest OP seek out polish women and other Eastern European women who are either Catholic or Muslim as they have retained more positive relationship virtues (unfortunately the opposite is true for catholic latin women)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:25 PM
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Why are commenters replying as if this only applies to onlyfans and not also relationships generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:01 PM
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They wouldn’t be wives in the first place if they had value. I’m talking about single women who want relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:10 PM
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I recently saw a reel of an attractive young woman complaining about men who “soft ghost” her. She said men after 3 to 4 dates just only have online communication with her. Everyone there is commenting that these men are simply waiting for this girl to initiate making plans. She invented “soft ghosting” as a concept to shield her ego from the fact that she’s getting the treatment she deserves for being a freeloader I’ve personally been in an almost year long situationship with a woman who wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:09 PM
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How do you talk about men when discussing misogynistic locker room talk? Or are women supposed to do something about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:39 PM
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No you’re just interpreting it as AWALT when clearly the title is talking about women who call out men for body shaming. I don’t personally agree with that being the demographic of women who do this, but clearly he’s not talking about all women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:19 PM
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I had to scroll down two comments to find the first female comment and she’s kinda implying he’s gay here and proving his point. I don’t see women replying to her. What examples of ostracism come to your mind from personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 02:17 PM
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It’s come full circle. I went on a tinder date recently and got called a “clairo boy” and I don’t know who she is. I’m a millennial so I’ve been unironically doing girly shit since 2010. I don’t do it performatively but because of the times, people now assume that sometimes about me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:08 AM
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The confirmation bias cuts both ways: It’s not just that men can’t find relationships, women can’t get the relationships they want from the men that do end up passing their filters. On Reddit, people tend to hyper focus on these filters and how men don’t get past them, but we never talk about what happens when the man does pass the filter but still doesn’t choose to have a relationship despite wanting one. Dual income is the standard but what percentage of women in dual income relationships woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:21 PM
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The issue is that women have lost self awareness in that what they want from a partner is not something many men are willing to give or even a healthy way to have a mutually reciprocating relationship. Lots of women don’t know that they have “anti social” standards and it’s not just their standards in the partner themselves that aren’t realistic but the very expectations they have for relationships themselves that are unrealistic. Lots of women think men would be ok with a relationship where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:02 PM
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No I am not withholding sex for six months. I’m just saying that’s how long the relationship will last in total when women do not invest. During these six months I may stop having sex at some point in hopes that it will spur on more investment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:28 AM

Straight demis are in denial about their visceral attraction to the opposite gender. I don’t bother trying to make sense of their sexualities. Demi means you’re attracted to intelligence which is by definition a queer identity. If the intelligent person has to be a man then you are by definition not primarily Demi Granted there are Demis who are queer but are attracted to both genders for unique reasons which is like a lite version (eg Julia fox)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:20 PM

Other women who think women only have responsive sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:01 PM
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I understand. I guess I feel like some ladies could be more straight forward with the truth about penetration mostly being unnecessary when it comes to actual physical pleasure. I think for most people, penetration is about emotional connection (which imo a lot of women tend to discount as well) But even a guy with a small package can put as much motion in the ocean as he wants but at the end of the day he will have to focus on clit play if he wants to bring a woman to orgasm. Even as a bigger g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:34 PM
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Yeah most women buy vibrators and don’t even buy dildos my dog because most women don’t even care for penetration According to Google the average dildo size bought is 6.5 inches so it all tracks. Below average dicks are rarely pleasurable to women for penetration. These men really just have clit play as an option to please women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:32 PM
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I mean it’s not what I do. But if I was a below average dude then I’d admit to myself that most women just see penetration as something for my own pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:19 PM
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lol I am reiterating what she said and her reply is saying she’s confused with me “arguing” because she agrees
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:19 PM
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Am I arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:18 PM
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I give benefit of the doubt that they may increase investment. I have ceased sex as an ultimatum to get the girl to try to invest more as well. 6-8 months is the window usually. It’s situationship culture. It’s not like men don’t want relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:50 PM
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Happier single≠happy The older the women I date, the less happy they seem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:48 PM
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What’s the point of penetration if you don’t feel it? Most women will prefer one big enough to feel (and obviously this will differ women to woman but “average” is probably on the lower end for preferred size for penetration) Men with below average size are pretty much useless for penetration and most women would prefer a guy with a small dick just focus on clit play. And once he’s finished he can just do penetration for his own pleasure to finish
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:37 AM
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When is this sub gonna make a dick size mega thread sticky
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:18 AM

A common story I hear is: Female/male best friend then male best friend says he develops feelings for her. Do you think these men are lying and that they just wanted to fuck from the beginning of the friendship. Do women never develop unrequited feelings for their male friends? And is it gross when they do it or is it less gross than when men do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:31 AM
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“Specific bad behavior” these women don’t use these episodes to justify being sexist Exactly. These women don’t generalize. They see the men who try to cross boundaries as an exception. I’m just trying to understand why there are also women who don’t complain yet are more attractive than women who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:53 PM
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A lot of people who are terminally online think a lot of stuff is terminally online when it isn’t because if you are terminally online then you don’t know what’s common in the real world. Not that Instagram is the real world, but if you think PPD is bad, literally just spend 30 seconds on Instagram threads
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:44 PM
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Once you realize a lot of the mods are also in that demographic then this sub starts to make more sense. Shouldn’t call it blue pill. We should just call it xennial myopia (the good ones are the best tho)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:29 PM
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“Jar opener friends” Do they know you call them that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:20 PM
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Which “men?” All of them? Or the ones you want to generalize so you can indulge in your confirmation bias about men being dogs? Like if you don’t have straight male friends that you enjoy that’s a you problem not a horny man problem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:18 PM
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So what do you make of women more attractive than you who don’t make these complaints?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:21 PM
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Why do women assume men can’t have platonic relationships with women? Did one male friend make a move then these women swear off all platonic straight male relationships or is it social isolation?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:30 PM
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How do you verify that he lied vs he changed his mind? IMO that only involves unkept promises. But I agree with the sentiment of your comment that situationships are usually enabled by both parties. IMO it’s less of a gender thing and more of attachment style incompatibility. (Eg Avoidants often attract anxious types and they tend to mutually reinforce their bad habits)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:49 PM
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OLD puts women in a masculine approach to dating by prioritizing spontaneous sexuality over responsive. And women swiping on men is in of itself a masculinization of previous habits where men would approach and woman would accept or reject. Now women themselves “approach” men on the apps but it’s a half hearted one so this has created dating market anemia.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:25 PM
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No they’re young people who are FWB. It’s just that casual sex has never been less popular since early boomers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:04 PM
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It’s the arrogance that is astounding imo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:37 PM
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In an FWB that is mutually agreed upon and in a situationship it is not and there is an unspoken expectation that it could change
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:27 PM
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Yeah they should refer to you I guess 😂 https://www.grindr.com/blog/situationship-vs-friends-with-benefits https://kraks.co/situationship-vs-friends-with-benefits-whats-the-difference-really/ https://danieldashnawcouplestherapy.com/blog/situationship-vs-friends-with-benefits https://danieldashnawcouplestherapy.com/blog/situationship-vs-friends-with-benefits https://pickmeupgame.com/blogs/pick-me-up-blog/what-are-the-key-differences-between-friends-with-benefits-vs-situationships?srsltid=AfmBOooV…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:24 PM
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https://www.wikihow.com/Situationship-vs-Friends-with-Benefits Everyone please refer to the above for clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:15 PM
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No back in the day, the people who avoided FWB were just the people who didn’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:11 PM
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I mean not all the time. But even then, situationships don’t start with clear intentions at all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:10 PM
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“but the hallmark is lack of clear boundaries” Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:58 PM
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Ok find me articles about why FWB is bad. Then see if you can find more of them than ones about situationships being bad. Like it seems like you haven’t actively dated for a while. Most people who are single and dating now pretty much all agree situationships should be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:57 PM
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No, FWB has clear boundaries dog Again very obvious you don’t have experience with these things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:54 PM
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It’s just something women tell themselves to preserve their ego. “It’s him not me” most times a fling ends
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:49 PM
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99/100 they didn’t fake anything. They just got to know you better and changed their mind about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:46 PM
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https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-is-a-situationship I suggest OP put this in their post for reference so people don’t try to make themselves the dictionary authority
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:44 PM
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No not at all. Situationships are where one or both people want the relationship to progress and/or become exclusive but for a variety of reasons no one takes the leap. FWB does not have a bad rap. Situationships do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:31 PM
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Women get what they deserve by not setting boundaries with these men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:26 PM
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lol no it isn’t. Situationships are very different than casual/open/FWB. Clearly you haven’t been in both
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:25 PM
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So you’re saying men must treat all women the same to prove that they aren’t misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:59 PM
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No women who want long term relationships are struggling to acquire and maintain them. Men don’t think women are worth more than sex nowadays, apart from the men who don’t have access to women who are centering their lives around a marriage that won’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:13 AM
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Being single is always more expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:28 AM
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Because no one should take seriously the idea that the reason why relationships today are failing is due to solely male incompetence. This is just soft misogyny toward women imo. It treats them like children who are victims to male incompetence
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:47 AM
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OP is talking about “harems” and I’m saying that men nowadays have little incentive to have sex in one place at a time nowadays because women offer so little. As men have begun to offer less financially, women in turn offer less non financial acts of service.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:43 AM
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Yet men who can find women don’t want to marry them at the same rate as before. Everyone kinda needs to do better right now. Pretty hilarious to act as if men are the only ones lagging It is in men’s best interest to get sex at as low a cost as possible given that relationships are no longer the same boon as they used to be
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:38 AM
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And plenty of men are making good choices but are still incels. This is just all just world fallacy bs which probably means you also subscribe to women are wonderful fallacy (that is women are perfect moral arbitrators so only morally corrupt men are single). Attraction isn’t fair my guy. Women today are much more easily repulsed than in the past (not that I’d recommend dating a woman with a sensitive ick response as the sex won’t be good)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:47 AM
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Well you’d probably be an incel too today if you were born later. I was pretty decent at dating prior to Covid. Barely any of the skills transfer. Going to therapy and getting a decent job has not helped me nearly as much with dating as putting a shirtless selfie of myself on my dating profile. But sure at the end of the day it won’t help to blame things you can’t control. But since men propose for marriage and marriage rates are down, women also could work on themselves if they don’t want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:42 AM
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The issue is that we project conservative “lift yourself by your bootstrap” hate fantasies onto men. Probably comes from a place of being bitter as a progressive who see young men become conservative and then try to use “leopards ate my face logic” against them. Reality is men won’t become better partners until society invests in men more. Education system needs to be revamped. Male birth control needs more investment. We need to culturally elevate male heterosexuality like we did up to the mid …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:27 AM
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We won’t have extensive welfare programs for unmarried elderly women (and men for that matter). We are going to see lots of old ladies bagging groceries 30 years from now. So it will switch back in probably 2 generations as young women will feel “forced” by seeing the bad outcomes of single elderly folk. They will see a stark difference between the life paths of these people vs their parents. So while today most kids don’t want to emulate their parents, this will flip at some point We are curren…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:14 AM
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Someone said there’s content with big boobed women taunting small boobed women? Still not really analogous. I want to see a male dom body shame a female sub
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:40 AM
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I don’t think you’re understanding…. They contradict themselves in doing so. They say, “no women are different from each other” and then proceed to talk about themselves as if all other women feel the same way they do No one said anything about 80/20. I don’t believe in that. Why do you think I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:43 PM
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That’s my point. There is no monolith but women (here especially) love to describe their personal preferences as a norm for other women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:37 PM
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PPD women will say they aren’t the norm then proceed to describe their own personal romantic preference as monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:29 PM
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It’s pretty telling that most “small dick” porn is centered around the concept of humiliation. Imagine if there was porn where body shaming women was the kink. “Oh look at you and your pathetic tiny tits. You couldn’t feed a baby mouse with those.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:15 AM

Girly I’ve already given you peer reviewed data. It’s 16.3% of women. Accept reality. Literally the medical article I shared with you says that damage to the cervix is rare when stimulated. And STIMULATED. Not pierced. Not pounded or whatever goal post you want to move to as if all cervix stimulation=jackhammer Again talk to these women and tell them that they don’t know their own biology or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:55 AM

The Reddit comments aren’t medical advice. They are testimony on what they find pleasurable. They aren’t insisting that cervix stimulation is pleasurable to all women. They are saying they personally find it pleasurable. With many saying it is not painful at all. But again please dm these women. Please have a conversation with these women. Not for medical advice but to cure your myopia. No one is talking about having sex with pregnant women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:32 AM

You arrogant ladies need to actually talk to other women https://np.reddit.com/r/badwomensanatomy/s/V91MbbMNTT <image> You should dm these women and tell them they don’t know their own bodies and see what they think about you and your doctor’s opinion. Next time you see your doctor, ask them if some women enjoy cervix stimulation. You might learn a thing or two
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:16 AM

Just another day on PPD educating women about women: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/uvu0G0lIFP Like do you think me or the root commenter are making women bleed without realizing? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321574#before-trying “It is unlikely that cervical stimulation would permanently damage the cervix… Bleeding during sex is not typical. This may indicate a person has an injury.” And here’s some advice on how to approach cervical stimulation! Maybe give some of thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:08 AM

Girly, no one has said anything about jack hammering. Your projection is obvious. We are not talking for other women. We are telling you what women have told us whom we’ve had sex with. How many women have you had sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:16 AM
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“Always on texters” ime almost all have severe anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:58 PM

You can find peer reviewed studies on Google. I even linked one on this comment thread But why am I not surprised. It’s expecting too much of PPD users to do “research”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:48 PM

Ok so you’re speaking for you and your friends. Try Google next time babe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:59 PM

No you are a woman speaking for other women’s pleasure. You’re being more misogynistic here than us because you’re the one treating women as monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:48 PM

Quit what lol Literally the medical profession agrees that the cervix is not an inherently painful organ to touch. So obviously the only experience these women have with cervix stimulation is in medical contexts and they are using that as a way to reason that cervix stimulation during sex is painful. These women have not had sex with men with members big enough and they most likely don’t masturbate with dildos. They are just speaking for themselves as the data proves them wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:33 PM
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How do these women know this unless they are talking about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:15 PM

Misandrist women tend to speak for other women’s sexualities. It’s a trend I notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:08 PM

Absolutely not true https://thepelvicpeople.com/blogs/journal/painful-sex-is-the-cervix-to-blame?srsltid=AfmBOooz75LM7Ch9b2guxI3SlGozlQggBOEZbtOyG6kWcLaZVuIFajny “As Dr. Karen Brandon, DSc, PT says, “The native state of the cervix is not tender or sensitive, but we know [that certain procedures or events like] colposcopies and LEEP procedures can cause cervical pain.” This basically means that the cervix isn’t usually super prone to pain unless something else is going on. In fact, cervical stimu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:05 PM

No all these women have been brainwashed by patriarchy to interpret their pain as pleasure https://np.reddit.com/r/badwomensanatomy/s/Vm6Ye7ZnS9 Just another day on PPD educating women about women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:40 PM

You need to have sex with more women girly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:31 PM

Imo the the lie isn’t that big dicks are super popular but that lots of women enjoy cervix stimulation There are women with very shallow vaginas that a 5.5 inch dick could hit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:07 PM
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Just try to avoid telling women in casual/FWB arrangements that they are subhuman I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:07 PM
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So you’re a misogynist too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:53 PM
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Exactly. These myopic losers are so obsessed with what shitty men say that they don’t actually end having empowered sexual selves. They just think that because that some men look down on women who have casual sex that it’s ok for women to agree with misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:53 PM

Imo the issue today isn’t that women are trad but that women think transactional relationships are trad. They think a john-whore dynamic is trad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:16 PM
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There’s a not so tiny group of insecure women who are allergic to emotional vulnerability (they only want performative vulnerability in the relationship) and if you try to to cater to these women then you won’t be able to have good relationships with good women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:19 PM
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Poly peaked in like 2022-2023 Everyone realized most poly people are just dysfunctional monog people larping as non jealous people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 09:17 PM
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I’ve started
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:48 PM

My tip is to avoid women who project trauma onto you so you don’t have to worry about this bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:43 PM
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Talking to yourself. Women don’t have enough casual sex imo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 09:43 PM
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Well I guess my point is do not confuse your preference with getting dissed by men who aren’t interested in long term relationships with you. They aren’t actually dissing you. You’re dissing yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:58 PM
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It’s insecurity too. You’re saying your perception of your own worth depends on how men treat you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:11 PM
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It’s internalized misogyny that you think a mutually reciprocal sexual relationship devalues women. Lots of empowered women have satisfying sexual relationships. I hope you don’t think they have less worth because they aren’t in a committed relationship. These women would not like it if you referred to them as fleshlights
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:06 PM
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No not in particular. They just lack the interpersonal skills. It’s often professional women who avoided relationships in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:45 PM
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I think the mark of an insecure woman is to interpret pure sexual interest as a slight to her worth. Even in a situation where it’s just FWB, that doesn’t mean you’re a fleshlight, it just means you’re not compatible for an LTR. But lots of women cannot think in the compatibility mindset and are stuck in a worth based mindset and think any man who wants anything short of a committed LTR from her is “devaluing” her. I guess it’s a combination of insecurity and internalized misogyny. Pump and dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:36 PM
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And it’s also a fairly well known fact that at least 40% of men who kill themselves do not have depression. Like pretty common story to hear among my therapists about middle aged men taking their own life without any signs of depression
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:47 AM
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You’re assuming the only difference is under diagnosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:39 AM
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So less than 2x (close but not quite). But this data still supports that women are on average more neurotic and that men take this toll on in relationships because under-diagnosing is not the only variable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:34 AM
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Women have anxiety and depression at twice the rate as men… do you think women go to therapy twice as often?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:14 AM
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You should be immediately flag these women as pump and dump material. They’re often unfixable because a part of their subconscious wants their trauma to repeat as a fucked up power dynamic where they can’t be in a relationship and not be the “better person.” Talking into a pillow is about all these women are good for
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:14 AM
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I’m not disagreeing here that these women are settling. I’m just saying the best they can get will be settling to a lot of women. I don’t want you to operate on any system. I’m just saying the majority of women operate on the system of responsive attraction not spontaneous attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:47 PM
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Women who lack self awareness don’t understand that the person they are settling for is the best they can get. Granted I am unsure if this post is about women not having spontaneous attraction. Most women don’t. But responsive attraction is by definition negotiated. Perhaps you’re a woman with spontaneous attraction projecting your sexuality onto other women. I’ve dated mostly women with spontaneous attraction and it’s much different than average. If I don’t wash the dishes, it’s not that she be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:35 PM
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Men settle for less than what they deserve often Women settle with what they deserve often
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:00 PM
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Only if we were going to start a family within 2-4 years with certainty. I’m about 2-3 years from that stage in life so it would just be a no for me for the time being until I’m at that stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:45 AM
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They aren’t terrible. We just blow smoke up high school girls’ asses by telling them they are mature enough for a long term relationship when they should just be hooking up at that age. The boys are doing the right thing by avoiding serious relationships then low iq/Eq women think these boys are evil for doing something completely healthy Boys who don’t hookup cope by imagining these men are evil Most of what these women post on are we dating the same guy probably aren’t true because they are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:02 PM
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Have you read Herland? Women can still be racist. Queen Victoria was one of the primary figures to advance western colonialism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:37 PM

No we do not historically see what we consider to be patriarchy until the first states and the origin of agriculture. There is no systemic oppression of male bodies over female bodies observed in nature. Might never made patriarchy right as rival male gangs always prevented might from consolidating power among men. Patriarchy was formed by a bunch of old dudes who managed to convince people to oppress themselves via ideology: eg a priestly class. And women were part of this. This is why internet…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:38 PM

Same reason why women have a double standard for bisexual men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:29 PM
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No most men make themselves cum inside women. I can’t tell if you’re changing the subject or trying to make excuses for being quiet by framing communication as “arguing” I’ll be clearer: women who don’t use their words in the bedroom deserve a jackhammer or two pump chump bf who doesn’t touch your clit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:02 PM
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lol remember a post on r/tall of a woman saying she feels fetishized because a tall guy said he didn’t enjoy being with women 5’3 and below
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:07 AM
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Then you don’t deserve good sex Ofc we know what the clit is. You know what the dick is too and you would think men would be selfish and entitled if you think we are owed handjobs and blowjobs without asking. Would never consider more than a 3-6 month sexual relationship with a woman who doesn’t ask for what she wants. If it’s like the 25th time I’ve touched your clit and you’ve never actually asked to have it touched then I’m going to start to think you’re a selfish fuck who doesn’t deserve to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:56 AM
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Women need to learn to ask to get their clit touched just like how men ask for handjobs and blowjobs. Super weird to get resentful of dudes for not doing things you don’t ask for. Lots of women deserve the jackhammer/two pump chump
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:15 PM
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Healthy sexual relationships are mutually reciprocal These men could all be taught fairly easily how to make a woman orgasm with clit play. It’s really not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:19 PM

Yeah idk Trump 2024 is way more empowered than Trump 2016 and this is due to how popular the red pill is among young men. But I lump alt right influencers with redpill. You could argue that folks like Andrew Tate are falling off but I’d say that’s due to the fact that their sources of revenue are now in markets that are over saturated. Andrew Tate’s prime as an onlyfans pimp is over. He’s scurrying for other sources of growth now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:03 PM
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I’ve worked in sales. You wouldn’t need a salesman if the person already wanted the product. Game is just a form of manipulation to convince someone to buy a product without showing the real merit of that product. The very act of doing game implies you’re unattractive from the start so you need to game your way into being attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:59 PM
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Unsolicited affection, proposing plans (and yes im fine with making the plan, but I don’t want to be the only source of imagination for activities in the relationship), acts of service (I have typically cooked more than my exes but I like to be treated sometimes), words of gratitude not affirmations: this is just nice letters on bdays and anniversaries, gifts that are made (knit me something lol), and unfiltered emotional vulnerability
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:03 PM
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That’s the point: If you aren’t “aware” of it then it’s a sincere and authentic interaction. As soon as you revert to scripts and rules while courting someone then it’s game
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:41 PM
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No they told me they wanted an LTR girlie
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:33 PM
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You’re just making stuff up now. Literally this post is about women who want an LTR with me. They voice the desire first. I agree on the goal but then I have another conversation about what needs to happen for an LTR to occur
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:16 PM
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They’re not hypergamous my dude. That’s my point. I think you’re kinda reading what you want to see. My post is saying we overestimate hypergamy. We just see a lot of serially monogamous women as hypergamous when they aren’t. They just are people who don’t have self awareness that they are driving on the wrong side of the street I’m just describing a situation where I’ve dated women like this and it’s baffling to me why they want LTRs because they clearly aren’t cut out for one. Ofc we had where…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:09 PM
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Probably was a 5 year anemic relationship then he found someone compatible and the relationship grew with much more ease. You can still project what ROI of a relationship will be. You can see things going nowhere with someone you’ve been with for years and then you can also have a more productive relationship with someone you’ve recently met but are more compatible with. And I’d argue using relationship length as a measure of investment is the exact delusion I’m trying to debunk here. If you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:01 PM
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I mean you don’t just suddenly become an exclusive without a conversation. And for me, the distinction between “exclusive dating” and a long term relationship aren’t important. If you’re exclusively dating, that already implies you’re seeking a long term relationship. And if you aren’t exclusive, that doesn’t mean you can’t have a relationship either. And open relationships are usually the endgame for most of these women I date, but as I’ve gotten older and have dated more career women, the situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:57 PM
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Maybe you’re still stuck in the 10s but we’re in the job hugging era rn I agree there’s a power dynamic. Perhaps sports is a better analogy. Sure you can find a different league to play for but you got to practice your swing at the end of the day if you want to play a good game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:44 PM
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I’m saying this type of person confuses the lack of relationship quality with them not picking the right person. No amount of pickiness will ever solve these people’s problems because they lack self awareness that the reason why their relationship sucks isn’t because they haven’t found the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:43 PM
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The post would still make sense if I removed the entire section about flaws You’re just avoiding the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:58 PM
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They don’t matter. I’m talking about people who don’t realize all their relationships will suck because of their own lack of investment These are people who want LTRs in theory but don’t actually like the work involved
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:09 PM
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In the short term it’s not true. But we get what we deserve in the long run outside of violence/crime/abuse etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:09 AM
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Because grown adults self advocate in relationships? And that isn’t combative nor does that kill vibes unless you’re avoidant
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:08 AM
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What does pumping and dumping have to do with their boredom? Usually the person doing it is the one who is bored What untrustworthy vibe? I’ve never cheated. Been in several LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:05 AM
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I agree. If we put some men’s brains in women’s bodies then they’d do the same. But I don’t think the grass is greener mentality is why the dynamic i describe is so toxic. It’s the fundamental misunderstanding about how relationships grow and how to get the best out of our partner that is the issue. For some people it’s just totally not on their radar that they may have to be proactive about getting what they need from their partner. I’ve dated women who were shameless about doing this as well a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:53 AM
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I mean chemistry is purely just an in the moment thing. It doesn’t account for the fact that relationships are not just about what’s in the moment but also what’s invested over time. If anything women understand that better than men. I didn’t feel appreciated in a way that motivated me to want to have a committed LTR with this person but I still enjoyed their company otherwise. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with trying to advocate for yourself so that you can grow the relationship mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:35 AM
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The problem is that sometimes they are making holes in the ship themselves/see holes in the ship as someone else’s problem exclusively. It’s like they are watching their partner bail out water on the sinking ship while she is pissing on the deck And these people are often perpetually dissatisfied because they can’t connect their own actions to their own dissatisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:41 AM
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What? Why do they think I’m boring? Have been in LTRs with women who aren’t like this. It’s just mostly the women on apps who act this way and typically over 30. Ironically less of this behavior from younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:35 AM
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With one of these situations I’ve straight up made an ultimatum that we won’t have any sex until I feel more of an emotional connection from them + effort on their part when it comes to providing some input on what activities we do when we hang out. Nothing happens apart from them trying to get me to cave on not having sex. And this girl in particular stank a lot more when we stopped having sex for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:16 AM
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And I’m tired of pumping and dumping these women They weren’t even the ones who made the sex exciting. I do everything I think some believe that splitting the bill is their “contribution.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:07 AM
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Then I have no idea what your point is. I’m not complaining about shit not going anywhere. I’m complaining about how many women want the relationship to go somewhere but I would never in a million years offer commitment to someone who treats me like how some of these women on apps treat me (and yes I am lucky to have had a 1 year LTR with someone from the apps but that’s been it)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:58 PM
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Months And the point is that we aren’t yet gf/bf I want to have a committed relationship, but I’d never give that to someone who isn’t matching my energy. These women verbalize that they want an LTR, but it’s dumbfounding to me because they aren’t acting differently than women I’ve had casual relationships with. And I had a 2 year hs sweatheart relationship and a 7 year one out of college and a 1 year one during covid. All women imo matched my energy. If I made an effort for them, they would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:56 PM
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It’s to preserve ego so that if the relationship goes awry, they can just blame the other person and not take ownership Big red flag with people like this is that whenever you bring up a grievance, they respond by bringing up one of their own grievances that has nothing to do with the issue you’re complaining about. These people aren’t trustworthy and am very glad to have never given someone like this my commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:50 PM
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Why do you think I haven’t initiated negotiations? I’m initiating the negotiation and saying “hey I’d like an LTR but I can make that leap until we have x” Then nothing. It’s supposed to be a dialogue. Not a request for an order that you wait to be fulfilled Again why is everyone here assuming I’ve never been in a committed LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:49 PM
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Why are you unsure? I’m telling you this is a significant cultural thing that affects quite a few women. They see commitment as something that is given to them automatically if they simply spend enough time with a guy and they don’t factor in the quality of said time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:41 PM
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Hahaha so you think I’ve never been in a relationship with a woman who puts in effort? I have and I gave them my commitment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:39 PM
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Controlling and nagging are not healthy. Self advocate in a healthy way: https://dbt.tools/interpersonal_effectiveness/dear-man.php
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:36 PM
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There’s some symmetry, I think the analogous version are men who are deadbeat fathers. But you’re hilariously naive if you think men and women do this same behavior at same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:33 PM
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Do men lie about wanting a relationship for sex as often as claimed? Don’t you think men who want LTRs but meet a girl who they only feel strongly enough for FWB are disappointed? I think they are. I feel like people who make this argument assume most men are incels. Most men are content with FWB but still would prefer an LTR. Men want LTRs at the same rate as women and more men want to be fathers than women who are mothers. I mostly see the statement “men lie about wanting a relationship to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:31 PM
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The merit for commitment is based on the relationship you create as a unit. The idea that “I’m great therefore I deserve to be committed to” is mildly narcissistic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:28 PM
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I guess a lot of women don’t think that man exists so they become jaded then avoid attachment then try to use relationships for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:27 PM
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I tried my best to not make quantitatively falsifiable statements. A “large amount” could still be a small minority of women. My premise is still that I believe most people get what they deserve in the long run so if you are perpetually dissatisfied then you probably lack self awareness of how you are simply getting the treatment you deserve
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:25 PM
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No I ask them how they show what MY significance is to them. I don’t exactly feel like I’m particularly important for you if all you do is let me take you out on dates that you never reciprocate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:23 PM
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No because I’m giving them my loyalty and time too. What’s the other option? They don’t spend time with me? Then there’s no relationship. Literally the definition of bare minimum. If I have a T chart of “things I’ve done for her” in one column and “things she’s done for me” in the other, then it’s quite a bit lop sided. These women are selfish to want LTRs I have been in committed LTRs with women who have shown me affection without me asking, who have given me gifts, who have done acts of servic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:20 PM
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No it’s just women think doing nothing is being in their feminine energy when it’s actually infantile energy. This is a new phenomenon. I believe it’s motivated by fragile ego: they need a committed relationship as a safe space to show emotional vulnerability but this puts the cart before the horse. Making a commitment to someone before any exchange of emotional vulnerability is foolhardy. Before social media shattered female ego (causing situationship culture) women used to do these things call…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:16 PM

I’ve been in a string of situations via the apps, all with women who have verbalized that they want an LTR meanwhile I’m the only person breathing life into the relationship at all. When I ask, “how do you show me my significance to you?” They reply by saying “well I spend a lot of my time with you” as if I’m supposed to be flattered by that But I have also encountered women who absolutely only wanted casual but internalized misogyny forced them to lie on their profile
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:47 PM
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But we need to preserve he moral purity of women who feel hurt my guy. Like her feelings are hurt 😤 Obviously her feelings wouldn’t be hurt if he didn’t “betray” her ☝️☝️☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:56 PM
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You can end a relationship and be empathetic about it. What’s not empathetic is guilting someone who wants to end a friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:43 PM
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You can spout as many synonyms as you want but it doesn’t justify hyperbolic language. None of those words would apply except for maybe “cease to support.” Desertion implies leaving your post. Sort of the inverse of abandonment. Giving up implies that there is something you could continue to work toward. You know what words are also appropriate? “Leave” the relationship “End” the relationship “Cease” (without “to support”) the relationship This is just classic autistic Reddit arguing with dictio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:09 PM
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It’s not abandonment my dude Abandonment is when you expect someone to be there but they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:37 PM
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They are making a choice for their mental health and you’d be entitled to think that you’re owed a friendship at the expense of their mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:31 PM
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Abandonment has a specific meaning. Someone leaving a relationship is not always abandonment. A mom leaving her infant on the side of the road is abandonment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:19 PM
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It’s not “abandoning” Abandoning implies that someone expected someone to be there but they weren’t. If he ghosts then maybe you can call that abandonment. But someone saying “I don’t want to be your friend anymore” is not abandonment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:17 PM
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You have abandonment issues
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:11 PM
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I would recommend you speak to a therapist if you see that as betrayal Are incels “betrayed” when a girl doesn’t want to fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:08 PM
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Grieving a lost relationship/friendship is ok Saying he’s a bad dude bc you don’t want to fuck him means you feel entitled to his time and friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:36 PM
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No one is making you cook for and clean after your roommate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:20 AM
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Men have always been the prize. Social media brain rot has been trying to convince us otherwise. The culture of making women the prize has coincided with inceldom. Women are the prize because sex. But this is only a prize to men who don’t have access to sex. A woman’s sexuality is not worth much to men who are the prize. Usually his sexuality is worth more than hers and really it’s just her appearance that is a prize not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:22 AM
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Most women don’t want casual sex. The idea that most women have a ho phase is a cope for redpill dudes who didn’t have a hs/college hookup phase. Women who want LTRs avoid fuckbois. Fuckbois get fuck zoned all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:40 AM
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It’s not due to bigotry or even traditional roles but due to the power dynamics involved over sex. Bisexual men don’t rely on women for sex so women can’t exploit the power dynamic of gatekeeping sex to manipulate their partner. Lots of women know that when a man feels that his partner is the only opportunity for sex then he’s more malleable. This is actually another reason why women avoid fuckboyes bc it’s a similar reason. They don’t like not being the most sexually desired person in the dynam…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:09 PM
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You’re literally doing it right now. Just because someone wants to have sex with you, that doesn’t mean they think your other qualities don’t matter. Just because someone only wants to be FWB with you, that doesn’t mean you’re only good enough for sex. That’s just you projecting your insecurity. Plenty of people like their FWBs for other reasons than sex and them not wanting an LTR doesn’t mean you’re low worth; it means you’re not compatible for an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:01 PM
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Insecure women take sexual attention as a slight to their worth. They think you’re ignoring their other features or think they don’t matter to you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 06:27 PM
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By definition the fact that there is an ongoing relationship means it’s not rejection. You just felt entitled to a committed relationship so you see it as rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:25 PM
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Women are myopic in dating situations bc they don’t think about how the man is disappointed that the girl wasn’t the one. And if you add the fact that most of them don’t ask questions like “what do we need to do to turn this into a committed relationship” then my sympathy is less. Someone giving you a fair chance is better than none at all typically
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:04 PM
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Attractive women only discourage men with outcome dependence. I actually think this is a good automatic filter for attractive women. Very attractive women probably do get approached less than “above average” women but I think that comes with the benefit. Unfortunately this makes some of these attractive women jealous or at least it puts a chip on their shoulder because a lot of these women feel like they should be getting the most attention when “lesser” women get more attention. I’d argue that’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:20 PM
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Ok makes sense why ur not close
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:21 PM
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lol hilarious when the men on this sub know what they are looking at
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:13 PM
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How many platonic straight male friends do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:22 PM
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It’s feminine projection to assume that complaints are demands
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:40 PM
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We have pretty significant data on how significant a number of women who can’t regularly achieve orgasm via masturbation. And yeah it’s a pretty large number compared to men. I had a few female friends in college tell me they’ve never had an orgasm in their life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:07 PM
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Most women just hump regularly during cowgirl. If they are grinding, it’s more like belly dancing than a twerk. There is both spinal flexion and extension. During reverse cow girl (and doggy but less twerking) the girl is mostly in spinal extension (cow pose)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:29 PM
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This is cat pose. And it’s what women who are bad at sex do (some women will involuntarily cat pose out of pleasure but that’s different). No one wants to put their dick in a girl posed like this: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:27 PM
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<image> It’s not always comfortable because men have tendons that run down their pubic area and connects at the base of the top of the penis. This makes it hard for a lot of men to point their penis toward the floor with an erection. Most men naturally have their erection point slightly toward the ceiling. So having sex like this is not viable for a lot of men with healthy erections. I usually do this only as one of the first positions or after we’ve already done a first round. It’s fun to look …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:25 PM
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While I actually do prefer women who prefer clitoral stimulation over penetration as an orgasm preference (piv girls are exhausting after a while), I find that the girls who don’t enjoy PIV to be emotionally vacant and hollow. Penetration is about feeling “one” with your partner and a feeling of close intimacy and togetherness. Some women just have those super impersonal vaginas. It’s also just much hotter foreplay to have a girl tell you how she wants to be filled up. While I love compliments o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:18 PM
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Reverse cowgirl can be pretty similar Like have you ever had sex with a woman from behind who went into cat pose instead of cow pose? 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:15 PM
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Yeah when you’re at the bar flirting with a guy, you’re just afraid of that person around the corner who’s gonna pop out and shame you for flirting with him. Which is absolutely ridiculous. Most of the shaming women do in this regard is self done. We need to stop taking seriously the argument that women see misogyny on social media so then we rationalize why women aren’t functional lovers IRL. We tell incels all the time to not get hung up on rage bait content but it’s ok for women apparently to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:07 PM
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Once I got enough bodies I started to look at the orgasm gap stat a little differently. I’d say literally about between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 people in general are generous lovers. And this sort of correlates with the 20% or so orgasm gap. Men who are selfish lovers results in the man cumming but not the woman. But if the woman is selfish… it’s the same result. Women who are bad lovers have self awareness problems and will rationalize their bad habits as men who just can’t get them off It’s a cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:41 PM
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It’s just the Madonna whore complex playing out. Pseudo feminist women see critiques of promiscuity as slut shaming so they proceed to try to rationalize all female sexual behavior as Madonna. It’s a binary and a dirty political tactic in their war against heterosexuality Reality still is that healthy casual sexual experiences can in fact empower your long term relationships later. But unfortunately most promiscuity is not empowered. It usually comes from a place of low self esteem. This is also…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 06:33 PM
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Father: “my daughter, boys your age only want one thing…” Translation: “I was so bad at sex when I was younger that I had sex with girls my age who regretted it.” 16-21 should be when you experiment with sex in a low stakes environment. People who don’t will be less prepared for relationships than the people who do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:46 PM
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https://thematchartist.com/tinder/why-do-guys-not-message-first-on-tinder#do-girls-ever-message-first-on-tinder K “data from Tinder shows that only 1.4% of women think they should send the first message”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:12 PM
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This is because women want the top rated profiles to message them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:30 PM
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Source? I mean boxers and wrestlers are celebrities. But you even see most pro wrestlers date within their job. The ones I know are some of the most sexually frustrated dudes. Catcalling is one of the ways they cope with rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:30 PM
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Yep. Have hooked up with plenty of shorties but I don’t want to dilute my tall genes. My height filter on the app is set to 5’6 and up. I’m 6’3 making me about top 1-2 percentile. I believe the height for women in the same percentile depends on source but somewhere between 5’9 and 5’11. I’d ideally like to be with someone that height that but not a deal breaker if they are couple inches taller or shorter. Taller women ironically are often harder to match with as they tend to more often have slen…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:13 AM
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Yeah never understood the logic Men are sexually visual, but that does not imply they prioritize looks more. Really it just means that men have a minimum threshold to be physically attracted to a woman, which is much more binary than responsive sexuality that most women have. Women are much more easily turned off by men who aren’t physically attractive and have a narrower range of men whom they find physically attractive. The filter women use to pick attractive men is much more selective than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:28 PM
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No the gender dynamic is what drives the profit model they use. Men are the product on the app that women shop for as these apps appeal to female consumerism. Men give money to the app so that they effectively get better merchandising akin to food suppliers who pay to put their product on end caps in grocery stores. Granted recently hinge has been trying to get women to buy roses. Clearly hinge realized it’s a problem to have women collect matches with unreplied messages so hinge now is trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:17 PM
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Dating apps are designed to give insecure women the illusion that they can pick from a soft harem when most of their matches are men who suicide swiped on them and the ones genuinely interested in going on a date rarely like the girl enough for a long term relationship. People like to argue that the apps are the way they are due to fundamental differences in sexuality between the sexes when the app design and gender ratio are far more relevant than pseudoscience evolutionary biological differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:52 PM
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Classic Reddit whataboutism I dunno it’s more of an FDS thing. Redpill dudes seem to be fine with girls who put out quickly if they don’t have high body counts There’s a teeency minority of men who have sex with a girl on a first date and then go “oh she was willing to have sex on the first date so I don’t think she’s a loyal partner” that’s just women tell themselves to feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:32 PM
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This is just what girls who get pumped and dumped tell themselves so they can sleep at night By this logic like no one in Scandinavia would have long term relationships as it’s more traditional there to have sex first People just want to judge and look down on people who are sexual up front as being inferior for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:47 PM

Be ok with me having sex with other women Asexual women need to be reminded that it is selfish to expect romantic relationships with sexual people. Either find someone asexual or be in an open relationship with someone sexual. There shouldn’t even be a consideration for alternative arrangements
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:41 PM
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Naw there’s a basic level of civil interaction that strangers are owed so that social interactions are not contentious for no reason People who by default are not nice, deserve to have strangers be nasty to them. They’ve “earned” strangers not owing them niceness. https://youtu.be/O8aNfg0LBgQ?si=uV1zB1Y2H8K_a6GG Having worked as a doorman, I can’t imagine how hard my job would be if I acted “nasty”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:52 PM
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Women just need to be taught how to have financial boundaries. I’m dating someone who makes way more than me but she doesn’t have to take care of me. It’s a prejudice that you have to take care of people that make less than you. I think lots of women project the patriarchal dynamic of breadwinners infantilizing their stay at home partners when it doesn’t need to be like that. It’s also just an illusion that straight women somehow doing much better than straight men. The reality is that marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:02 AM
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Genuinely curious to hear what you’re imagining about/projecting onto me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:42 PM
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Naw this is just what miserable women who can’t make other people happy think
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:40 PM
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It’s a really shitty road we are going down by pitting queer culture against straight culture. You have gay people telling bi folks now to “decolonize” their brain and see heteronormativity as a form of colonization.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:51 AM
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It’s just women who lack confidence and can’t set a boundary that they don’t want sex outside of commitment. If he didn’t promise commitment then she wasn’t used. It’s just something they say to soothe their bruised egos. And no men are not bad for having sex with a woman that they had emotional intimacy then quit. They are only bad if they straight up lied which really doesn’t happen as much as scorned women think it does
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:20 AM
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IMO knee jerk response to vulgarity (outside of professional settings) is a sign of a lack of emotional intelligence. A lot of people are being witty and intelligent when they are being vulgar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:02 PM
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Wild that my root comment got upvotes but this one further down the thread got downvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:58 PM

I convinced her to stop swiping when she could no longer maintain the conversations she was juggling and she said she’s had a better time since she’s made the adjustment. I personally stop swiping when I have 4-5 ongoing convos
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:54 PM

A female friend and I decided to go on the apps at the same time and we talked about our experiences. I did ask, “do you think all your matches want to go on a date with you?” And she was like “why not?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:19 PM
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Of course not. But women also don’t like being in situationships. So if they want a more committed LTR then they will have to make such choices. Likewise women have responsive sexuality. You’re assuming women are gooners like men. I would also argue fat women preferring skinny men and short women preferring tall men actually isn’t just about attraction: it’s also about insecurity. The fat girl wants to feel attractive by having someone who isn’t fat be attracted to her. She’d feel shitty about h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:42 AM

Often it’s not even a hookup. They just assume all their matches they get on the app are dtf when plenty of men who are way more attractive than her may have just suicide swiped her. That’s why bumble stopped making women message first and that’s the real reason why women (mostly mid women) never send a first message because they need the man to send a first message so she can have certainty that he intentionally swiped on her. Attractive women more often send me a first message on the apps than…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:38 AM
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Vulgar is fun tho I know plenty of vulgar women who are trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:35 AM
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I’m saying this girl is literally saying the opposite. Terminally online misandrists seem to back and forth on the idea that unsuccessful men either have no standards at all or unrealistic standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:31 AM
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Ehhh not really because there are also men who match up with these women demographically. A cup girl should date the hard gainer. It’s objectively a better fit than if he dates the fat girl because they both can try to work on their analogous health issues together. Just because a skinny guy isn’t healthy, doesn’t mean that’s somehow like some fair trade for a completely different type of unhealthy. Same with short girls… they should date short men… especially if they don’t want to be on a merry…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:28 AM
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Because they’ll vote for Trump If you want men to care about women then you got to care about them. Dunno what you tell you. You get what you give in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:14 AM
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Like do you even try https://www.zippia.com/mortician-jobs/demographics/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:12 AM
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The 29.2% is lesbian victimization by other women. 3 lesbians in a room. 1 is likely to have experienced IPV. Why do they need to have had multiple partners to have this happen? You can experience IPV with your first or last partner What is this 1.3% number from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:09 AM
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What about the femcels who say incels only want supermodels/pornstars?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:04 AM
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Truthfully tell me what percentage of men are necrophiles before I get stupider reading what you write
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:03 AM
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Well fortunately that isn’t an issue because there are basically an equal amount of fat women and men. The fatties should just date the fatties. Nothing more pathetic than seeing a fat girl complain about how men only want casual sex with her when she’s literally only sleeping with average weight men. Average weight men aren’t shallow for only wanting casual sex with fat women. It’s that fat women are selfish to want long term relationships with average weight men. They’re just hypocrites who cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:51 AM
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No they are only bi if they have a consensual relationship. Queer women SA’ing straight women is more common than you think. We don’t say lesbian women are bi because they’ve been assaulted by men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:25 AM
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It’s one of those “inverted” issues. Black on black crime is a right wing talking point but at the same time its severity is exacerbated by white supremacy. Black folks calling the cops might make their situation worse than if they had not called at all so often they do without formal legal institutions which leads to underreported crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:23 AM
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Straight women do indeed experience IPV from other women so with these margins it is sort of hard to make an exact case. Experts in the subject just say it is “comparable” Likewise IPV is an umbrella term that encompasses stalking and psychological aggression as well and not only physical violence. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26319709/#:~:text=IPV%20within%20the%20context%20of,compared%20with%20opposite%2Dsex%20IPV. “IPV within the context of same-sex relationships led to more depressive sym…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:48 AM
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A well fitted plain white T with nice jeans>>>>>anything formal made of polyester
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:49 PM
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Not a random woman. I just mean it’s a woman you are not romantically involved with but you have a comfort zone of being able to make comments about bodies/hygiene/sexuality. I do think this has somewhat died out with zoomers who are more gender segregated than millennials. I have female friends I’d go shopping with and sometimes they’d want me to come with them to the dressing room to give them feedback. You just turn around when they are changing. Used to also work on an all female sales team …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:44 PM
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If you don’t have a female friend that you can tell “your tits look great in that dress” then I’m sorry you have yet to fully get women to feel comfortable around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:52 PM
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When a guy is giving a first impression that his primary motivation to interact with you is physical attraction. This means he’s flirting with you from the beginning. Sure he may participate in small talk (FORM… family/occupation/recreation/motivation) but his tone is clear in that the small talk is not the same tone that he would have with someone he is not physically attracted to. It’s the brainrot idea that men are predatory for finding women attractive despite men not knowing her personally.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:39 PM

Women who feel dehumanized when treated sexually in a way that is respectful of boundaries have a warped view on sex and view it as inherently degrading to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:29 PM

Aren’t there studies that people become pickier as a coping mechanism for rejection? Sounds like OP had sex with a man and she didn’t meet his standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:23 PM

This thread is pointless unless OP clarifies “conventionally attractive.” Women are just going to say the person they like the most is the most attractive TO THEM and that the person who hurt them is less attractive by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:41 PM
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Not really how it works. There’s just a sliding scale of enthusiasm: Some girls I was enthusiastic about upfront ended up casual and some girls I wasn’t as enthusiastic about up front ended up growing into an LTR and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:37 PM
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Fr I meet girls on dating apps where we are in a situation for months where literally nothing would ever happen if I didn’t make it happen and plan it. They just expect me to be a date pez dispenser then these women have the gall to want a long term relationship with me. It’s fucking ridiculous. They’re just so used to having a flock of desperate men doing things for them that they’ve lost self awareness of how to be a contributing partner in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:41 AM
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Ime only women with bad sex lives think this way No one should be proud that they cum mostly from a vibrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:33 AM
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So you think celebrity couples may even have a higher proportion of women initiating? I’d think the opposite because celebrity men would feel like they can find someone new after divorcing meanwhile imo the reason why men don’t initiate divorce as much is because they don’t think they could get another option after.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:16 PM
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This is also why celebrities/athletes have a significantly higher divorce rate than the average population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:57 PM
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No. Having emotional intelligence as a man is like having money as a woman. You just make everyone with less than you insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:18 PM
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Cougars love boyish men. Lots of old women go for men who look young.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:30 PM
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Hypermasc is a gay aesthetic Women generally prefer “pretty” men which OP probably thinks is alpha male but we have so many environmental estrogens now that the average teenage man is hormonally void so now any dude with a decent jawline and wide clavicle is an alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 04:59 PM
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Educate passport bros that the women they are dating are even less sincere than the ones they are avoiding here. They are encountering the same things they don’t like about western women but they just don’t notice because their SMV is different due to socioeconomic differences. None of the women they seek would genuinely want them if they had the same opportunities afforded to western women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:15 PM
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Passport bros are just the male equivalent of sugar babies. If we start valuing compatibility and chemistry over transactional relationships then that would stop passport bros. So a lot of the same women who criticize passport bros are enabling the same dynamic here in the west. So passport bros will go away when women stop wanting transactional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:59 PM
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I usually experience the opposite: more attractive people (men and women) on average tend to have more pleasant personalities. But there are exceptions on the margins. Lots of pretty people can be self absorbed and have vanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:48 AM
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Self sabotage exists. You can have preferences that have little to do with a successful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:53 AM
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I was buffer spoon for between two female friends one of whom was uncomfortable with cuddling with the other so I was in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:35 PM
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This one wasn’t middle aged. Who knows why these like 2 or 3 girls gave me side eye
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:04 AM
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These aren’t women I’m approaching lol Bad look is probably an overstatement but more side eye
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:57 AM

Imagine how miserable of a person you need to be to compare consensual sex to rape You don’t deserve to have someone to touch your clit if you can’t be bothered to ask. Women who are like that are no better than men who expect handjobs without asking. You deserve two pump chump or a jack hammer
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:13 PM
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Yes. Most people with good sex lives do the things necessary to make it happen. If you have an external locus of control about the quality of your sex life then you probably are a fundamentally selfish person sexually and as a result you will also experience selfish lovers because you’re just attracting that energy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:04 PM
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Women who have bad sex usually deserve bad sex. You don’t deserve to have someone touch your clit if you can’t even be bothered to ask. It’s good that men only care about their own pleasure with these women. Men who can’t get sex at all usually don’t deserve sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:55 PM
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I don’t think monolithic thinking is gendered but they come in flavors. Men tend to reduce things to universals that contextualize their personal struggles. Women try to extrapolate their own personal preferences as universals. Similar thing but inverted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:21 PM
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One time I made friends with a lesbian at a bar and she literally barked at any girl who gave me a bad look and told them I was better looking than them lol Have gotten the “women ☕️” line a decent amount of times from middle aged lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:31 PM
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Ime, the body count doesn’t matter that much. It’s just whether she has had positive experiences with men in the past. A woman with a body count of 15 but generally had more positive sexual experiences is going to be easier to be in a relationship than a woman with a body count of 3 but has trauma or is cynical based on how she was treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:26 AM

Women are just being lied to that dual income relationships imply disproportionate domestic burden on women. The issue is not with men generally being disproportionate non contributors to relationships, but with deadbeat dads/men who didn’t want the kid. Pew surveys just don’t show this disproportionate domestic burden that women claim in dual income relationships. The statistics only bear out once children are involved, which is where women do indeed are statistically fucked over very often. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:17 AM
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There are way more overweight women who would only date average weight men than incels who would only date a porn star/supermodel/celeb lookalike
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:27 PM
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This is a result of industrial capitalism. It was very common for men to marry into nobility. If anything 200+ years ago, the only people voluntarily engaging in hypergamy were men. Most women who were “hypergamous” were in arranged marriages Just watched Barry Lyndon. Great movie literally about male hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:21 PM
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Who said wants that he wants to be supported by her either? Maybe she needs a lesson on how to set boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:43 PM
2

It’s way rarer than women think that men literally go “I’ve already decided I only want sex with this person but I’m just going to pretend to want a relationship.” This is just what femcels tell themselves to sleep at night. It’s a loser take because any dude who has hooked up/had casual sex knows pretending to want a relationship is a bad strategy to get easy sex. It literally would only work with someone who already likes you and that would have already taken work and rapport that can’t be don…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:36 PM
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It’s something lots of people do. 3-7 year age gap relationships are more common than 0-3 statistically. If you want someone “on your level” then be prepared to contribute equally to the relationship. You’re not going to find someone who wants to be a “leader” in the relationship if you’re looking for an equal. Been dating quite a few women recently who are my “equal” yet don’t plan any dates or have a proactive role at all. So they’ve been flings that they’ve wanted to turn into something more.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:29 PM
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It doesn’t need to be finances. It’s just using a relationship for purposes of personal consumption. It’s probably not most but a significant amount of people date with the mindset that they are “acquiring” a partner. These people literally run away from people who see relationships as requiring upfront investment and sacrifice. They want the relationship to improve their QOL zero point. Could be finances/material benefits or it could be acquiring a social circle or popularity Spreadsheets aren’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:19 PM
-2

It’s purely counterexample that mismatched worth can even have its own advantages not that it should be a goal. It’s a narcissistic mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:16 PM
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Worth based dating is for miserable people For women who want families, it’s objectively better to date a man at his career peak and for that man to date a woman who can continue to have kids and won’t be middle aged raising children (so she can resume her career when kids are in college). Ideally it’s better for a man who has his shit together to date someone younger who might not yet have their shit together than to date someone his own age who already does unless they themselves are offering …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:37 PM
6

Perma downgrade to open relationship no path to wifey status will be looking to upgrade
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:58 PM
2

Can someone explain to me why pretty women are so much nicer to me than ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:03 PM
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Yeah straight folks are having much less sex than before covid. Yet 70% of lesbians have reported having vaginal intercourse. You can still only exclude people who are exclusively homosexual which is by no means all queer people. I can only assume that you think I don’t have sex because I hurt your fee fees showing you quality data By choice? You mean mgtow/4b? That is not contradicting my point at all. You’re saying that zoomers would rather jerk off than to be with a real person And are you no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:57 PM
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Here’s some 2024 data big boy (newer than your eharmomy survey): https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericwood/2025/02/10/comparing-the-hook-up-culture-to-intentional-dating-in-young-adults/ “However, according to the 2024 National College Health Assessment, 50.4% of college males, and 46.1% of college females reported never having vaginal sex” Wow what a crazy 1% “spike” post covid Try to get data from accredited academic institutions. Next you’re gonna show me a feeld survey. Going to enjoy you seeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:35 PM
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Kids today are not like early millennials/gen x Over half of UCLA students graduate reporting never doing any sexual activity. Get with the times my dude. https://healtheducation.ucla.edu/topics/sexual-health
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:51 PM
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There’s incel-femcel horseshoe theory with this: Incels think the only men who have casual sex are 666 chads who get away with behavior that wouldn’t fly with the same woman with a less attractive man Femcels think that the only men with high body counts are emotional manipulators who lie their way into sex Both femcels and incels confuse promiscuity and libido and treat them as the same. Incels think horny women are more likely to cheat. Femcels think women with high body counts are above any k…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:31 PM
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I’ve never misrepresented intentions. Some women have told me after sleeping them for a couple weeks, “I only see us being in a long term relationship” then ghost. Women pay in full on dates more often than you think. They want a dick appointment. More women would do casual if they were comfortable with the power dynamic involved. They sacrifice their sexuality as a bargaining chip, which many women like to fall back on as a way to have control in the relationship. But it doesn’t matter for thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 04:50 AM
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I’m sure it’s fairly equal but the reactions may be different. Men probably are more traumatized when something does happen but they aren’t as weary as women. I’d say men become more avoidant whereas women may become more guarded and cynical. Not that men don’t become cynical, but their cynicism becomes more like “women ☕️”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:30 PM
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No. mid women have different rules for men who are more attractive than they are. Attractive women treat all men they are interested in the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:34 PM
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I think it’s more that most people do not recover from relationship trauma. It’s both genders but women may be more sensitive. Instead of doing self work or learning to live and let live, they double down on being guarded and prioritizing traits in partners that often have little to do with why their previous trauma happened. One bad thing happens, then the exact things they do to prevent themselves from experiencing future heartbreak is exactly the same behavior that will guarantee men in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:11 PM
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I frankly think redpill men overestimate the amount of casual sex that women have because their ego can’t cope when a girl picks another guy over him so he has to lie to himself that it’s casual
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:39 PM
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Yes they are worse. What’s your point? Can please show me where men are saying doxxing or libel is worse than child rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:04 PM
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You’d be better off addressing people who defend r/CreepShots or r/Jailbait directly. You’re asking us as if I think that’s ok while I don’t think Tea is ok. You’re not addressing actual people. So I suggest you ask the pedophiles themselves why they have the double standard because most people replying here are gonna be like what are you smoking Like both are bad my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:50 PM
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Who is dying on the hill to defend pedophilia apart from pedophiles? False equivalence much?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:46 PM
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“Tea app is ok bc men are pedophiles” You got us there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:40 PM
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IME they want you to clean up after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:11 PM
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I’m pretty sure on hinge that you can only see the person on the top of your like stack without paying. This is set up poorly because it sort of encourages women to suicide swipe their like stack so they can see all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:51 PM
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I don’t think you guys are understanding how the base app for women would function. They can still use it but basically the tinder likes circle is their base app. Women would automatically see the men who already like them and can match. They just have to either pay to swipe right on a man who hasn’t swiped on her already or she gets one message to send a day And I think you guys are exaggerating how good women have it on apps. They’d much prefer a gallery to a card stack. And yeah you’d pick yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:40 PM
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Ideally you won’t have to. It’s sort of like women have to pay to role play as the man (being the picker) and men need to pay money to use the app passively (stereotypically like the woman). The app funnels women directly to the men who already like her and men who pay to like her expand her likes queue beyond the normal limit. The issue is that men suicide swipe and women regularly deal with getting matches who don’t ask them out. And women also engage in attention seeking behavior while still …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:47 AM
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While it takes away women’s ability to window shop, it gives them back for free a perk they need to pay for on the other apps. Women would only match with men who are serious about them. It would create a more natural incentive for men to avoid suicide swiping (not by paying walling infinite swipes). You get back some of the old benefits of bumble but not as extreme (it incentivizes women to message first sometimes but they don’t have to if they don’t want to) while also making men send a messag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:37 AM
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A “like” is just someone who has already swiped right on you. It becomes a match when you like them back. On tinder you can see who has swiped right on you in your likes circle but both men and women need to pay to use this. I’m suggesting women actually get this for free but they actually need to pay to swipe as normally. Women will be able to use the like circle right away for free on my app idea although men perhaps have to pay to use this feature. Women can browse but in order to swipe right…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:32 AM
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Likes or matches? Women still have to pay for tinder gold to see their likes. Basically this app ensures that men take initiative but only with women they are sure about. And it also preselects the men who are actually serious about the women they want to talk to so that women don’t have to deal with as many suicide swipers and fuckbois. And also it prevents women from “window shopping” or engage in attention seeking behavior by making them message as a requirement to browse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:13 AM
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They can use it, but can only match with men who have already swiped right on them: basically the tinder gold circle is the base (free) app for women. And maybe women can browse men on the base app but have to send a message in order to swipe right on the base app with only a certain amount of messages a day. But also the other way round: if a woman chooses to match with someone in her “like circle” the man has to send the first message in order for the match to happen. This would hopefully prev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:02 AM
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The only solution is a different app: Forced 50/50 gender ratio (eg men have waiting lists) You can’t match with more than 8 at a time and you need to delete existing matches if you want to talk to more people. You can see how many other people they are actively talking to No more card stack: you can browse all people in your area as a gallery and pick your top 8 Users who ghost get shadow banned Women need to pay to swipe on men who haven’t already swiped on the woman and can only see men who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:02 AM
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You’re talking to yourself. OP is talking about virtue not advantage. And he’s saying women aren’t advantaged not that men have the same advantage because they can just as easily get gay sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:07 AM
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Objectification is not by definition something that violates boundaries and requires consent. Objectification can occur both in public and at a kink party. And in both situations you can have both objectification that violates boundaries and objectification that doesn’t. You can objectify someone purely by your opinion of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:41 PM
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You’re just inexperienced and are taking what terminally online women say about women online as gospel then see the “contradictions.” This is because women aren’t monolith. And this also applies to their morality. Terminally online women will claim women aren’t monolith but only with respect to their preferences, but they present women as monolith when it comes to their morality. It’s the gender swapped version of the “I’m a good guy but why am I still an incel.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:30 PM
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Most OF revenue comes from married men. It’s this hilarious revenge dynamic some sexist sex workers have: they think they can profit off of the “male loneliness” epidemic by trying to findom incels but incels don’t have money so they end up becoming parasocial mistresses to men in dead bedroom marriages They do more harm to other women than they exploit the incels they hate (yes the men bear more responsibility)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:52 PM

This begs the question as to why roster dating and plan b partners have become so common with women. I wonder if it’s because these women have gotten burned and are like “well (the top 5%) of men do it so I can to”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:26 PM
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I’ve slept with high body count women with small hips and have had to squeeze my way in and have been with low body count women with tall hips that I can only bottom out in certain positions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:12 AM
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https://youtu.be/O8aNfg0LBgQ?si=sRa-M5G4gxWbNAel
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:50 PM
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Prisoners dilemma: the more women are generally less friendly to men, the more likely men are going to interpret the now relatively fewer acts of kindness as flirting. You’re making it harder for other women. Decenter people who decenter the other gender is the only solution
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:28 PM
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It’s an interesting breakdown. Friendliness is way more common than flirting so that would also imply that men have more experience with friendliness than flirtation but also bc flirtation is relatively rarer than friendliness, the opportunities for confusion are by definition fewer in the aggregate The question is the rate of confusion I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:52 AM
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Highly recommend that you also check out coffee meets bagel and try out their stats feature for a week (it’s paid). The two key stats they show are % of first messages sent and reply rate to their matches. I have not looked at dating apps the same way. Across the board, the more attractive women on apps sent more first messages and responded at a higher rate. It scaled as well: moderately attractive women would maybe reply to about half of their matches but very attractive women would respond to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:10 AM
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It would be very easy to start a “Am I on a roster” group. You’d simply privately share exchanged phone numbers with texts showing you’re dating then they’d create a list of other submissions to cross reference to. If the numbers match and you both are texting the same number and dating then you’re on a roster
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:52 AM
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Yeah I don’t have a good feeling about this. It was founded by a man and I’m pretty sure it’s a trap to leak account details of these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:23 AM
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I’m saying that for a select group of women it doesn’t matter how he presents. The very fact that he’s approaching a stranger they see as logically implying he’s a predator (eg they only trust men with already established social proof) Are there men who will openly cross boundaries in public venues? Sure but nearly as there are men and strangers in general who wouldn’t respond and try to protect a girl in a public place if her boundaries are crossed So no matter how much trauma these women exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 10:52 PM
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It tends to be men who are providing for families that we make excuses for. There’s a massive white collar norm to cover up the infidelity of men who are providing because they see maintaining appearances as the better outcome for the children
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:52 PM
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Having worked in non-profit, this bias absolutely influenced me to be more vigilant of unprofessional behavior from OTs in training to my supervisors. There was an OT in training who was being very inappropriate with how she disciplined our neurodivergent volunteers but none of my coworkers cared to notice because they just thought she was doing her job. She’d regularly scold a particular volunteer for skipping the line to the microwave to heat her food. It was sort of a routine and would often …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:51 PM
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It’s more that cold approaches (and romantic bids in general before the guy knows the girl well) are assumed to be “objectifying” when it most often isn’t. The logic is that “well he doesn’t know my personality so why would he be interested if he wasn’t objectifying” when the reality is most men who make such romantic bids do indeed want to get to know the girl better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:13 PM
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Two things: How does it imply they are okay with ignoring male abuse? Are the men who make these complaints friends with these abusers? It’s usually not about abuse. It’s about toxic relationships where the woman wants the guy more than the guy wants her back. These women complain about not getting what they want and because the man they picked is not compliant so they revert to sexism as a coping mechanism (eg men are afraid of commitment) to avoid accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:08 PM
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People confuse trad dynamics nowadays with sugar baby/sex worker dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:37 PM
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OP is saying people are making it harder for themselves than it needs to be and they’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:19 PM
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Women can only use sex to manipulate men who are bad at sex. Men who can consistently provide orgasms actually have more agency to manipulate their partner with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:37 PM
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Not at all. But they shouldn’t assume that men who display attraction to women upfront are trying to take advantage of them. It is impossible to build chemistry with a guilty till proven innocent approach. It kills chemistry and prevents idealistic dating. “Safety” is confused for “compatibility” and “toxicity” ends up being confused for “excitement.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:39 PM
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Men and women want LTRs at equal rates so if you’re a woman who is driving on the wrong side of the road thinking men just want hookups then it’s a skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:23 PM
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I’m not interested in “reading social cues” (at least not when it comes to expressing romantic interest). These women come off as lacking confidence as well which I also don’t find attractive in of itself I’m interested in making my interest known to her and for her to reciprocate in a way that I find attractive. If I throw the ball in your court and you drop it or just hold it then I’m going to move on to the next person. It’s rude to make other people work on your time frame that you’re not co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:07 PM

Supporting victims is not the same as only holding violent men accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:19 AM

Men being victims of male violence is equally a problem as is addressing perpetrators of violence is an “answer.” You can’t pick one and not have the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:08 AM

But men are still disproportionately the victims of violent crime committed on behalf of other men. Apart from IPV it’s not as if women are victimized by men in any statistically significant way that men themselves are not already privy to. Men should get more attention given to them relative to women when it comes to most violent crime. And when it comes to sexual violence women really only deserve about 30% more attention given to them. But that’s not how the dialogue works. It’s a binary and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:05 PM
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Yep. Women who need to use sex to manipulate men are by definition still relying on manipulation to get what they want. If they could get what they want by not using sex to manipulate men then they wouldn’t. But since they are, then that means they are ostensibly lacking in other areas that is preventing them from getting what they want. It’s creating a gulf between experienced and inexperienced men. Inexperienced men are naive and make themselves vulnerable to emotional abuse and will rationali…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:18 PM
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You’re describing a completely internal subjective state. Do you communicate to men that you are considering them romantically? If not then how are they supposed to know what direction things are going? Going on a date IS what you do if you want to get to know someone. You’re inventing this idea that women who accept a first date are admitting that they want a steady romantic association when that’s not what accepting a date implies. It is much more preferable to assess compatibility when there …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:07 PM
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I categorize you as friend material or gf material and once I decide that, it will dictate how I get to know you. If they’re not receptive to flirting from the beginning then I’m not interested in their courtship process. I find the whole camping as a friend until she decides to find me attractive to honestly be a kind of creepy process. You hear women all the time complain about male friends who are just waiting to fuck them so it’s hilarious to hear that some women literally want to be courted…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:12 PM
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Bell curve. Most high libido people are men. But women can have extreme libidos that are physically impossible for men to have due to the refractory period. HL women are their own category. Granted, usually it stems from either a mood or sensory disorder although mood disorders lend to an erratic libido that goes up and down whereas IME women with sensory disorders are the ones who are stuck in horny mode all the time. HL women are great but for LTRs past a few years, there needs to be boundarie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:00 AM
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No. The elephant man could make a girl cum if he was pointed in the right direction. They want the men they find physically attractive to be invested in their pleasure, but that’s not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:56 AM
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He’s saying this person doesn’t match all the boxes. Sexuality is a pretty big box lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:34 PM
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If they don’t have a health issue preventing them from having sex I’d tell them to go to therapy to talk about asexuality. Asexuals are selfish for wanting relationships with sexual people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:32 PM
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Some people don’t generalize harassment. Lots of women have the social intelligence to know that it is only particular types of men who harass and not a guilty till proven innocent approach to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:30 PM
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Only for early boomers. By late boomers and gen x, the bar scene was pretty significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:29 PM
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I get numbers from women like this all the time. Even the men who approach and seemingly successfully will still get ghosted. Most of these women want to just feel attractive and if anything doing so without the risk of sexual interaction is actually preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:28 PM
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I guess I just don’t relate at all from my perspective having had several casual relationships and have an FWB. Making a woman orgasm isn’t hard at all. You could train a monkey to do it. Women just want the monkeys to know it already. IMO women who are too timid to talk in the bedroom don’t deserve to cum and I hope they only experience shitty penetration
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:25 PM
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What “trick?” Has he offered commitment? If not then what “trick?” If he has offered commitment, how can he change his mind without it being a “trick?” Why would any of this matter if the sex was good?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:14 PM
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I tend to assume women who need financial compensation for male sexuality just don’t enjoy sex very much. Probably too timid to be assertive in asking for clit play or something. They just let him jackhammer or two pump chump her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:00 PM
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So you seriously think most men just want to have no committed relationships and die having only had casual sex? What exactly are men telling you? How do you know that they aren’t just saying they only want to have sex with you and would want committed relationships with other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:46 PM
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Your father is just saying he disappointed a lot of young women in his day. Men who are competent lovers don’t say shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:43 PM
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Because this is a turn off for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:34 PM
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Typo: meant to say aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:34 PM
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I think it’s just a black pill fantasy that women arent vetting properly. Women who are in relationships they’re complaining about are typically just getting what they deserve and lack self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:12 AM

The young woman of today is having considerably less casual sex than the young women of just 15 years ago. Redpillers just love assuming daddy issues are more common than they really are
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:10 AM
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I no longer hold back my sexuality and if women get uncomfortable I tend to confront them that they make me feel like I’m anti social and wouldn’t respond well to boundaries. I’ve only had to do this twice but both times I got an apology. I much prefer that than to censor my sexuality because it makes some girls feel uncomfortable. I’ve never SA’d anyone ever and have been a victim of it myself so the solution I think is just to not take paranoid people seriously. That it’s their problem if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:01 AM
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Why is someone asking for your number mean their intentions are purely sexual? And aren’t you just assuming that they won’t respond to a boundary well? If you find someone physically attractive, does it not make sense that you’d want to get to know them better? What’s so wrong with having romantic intentions with someone you don’t know yet? Isn’t the point of getting a number precisely so that they can get to know you better and see if a nice person accompanies a pretty face or whatever? I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:56 PM
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Of course I have. I’ve never used that as an excuse to assume everyone is a predator until proven otherwise. But I guess I’m also a large human The most sexist women tend to also be the most traumatized tragically
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:46 PM
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It seems highly generational that some women feel that being friendly=consenting to sex. Like I smile a lot at strangers if we make eye contact. There’s a particular group of young women who seem to feel sheer panic when this happens. I think it’s because men their age probably are so inexpressive to women that they see any form of politeness exchanged with men as a risk. I’m literally tempted to tell these young women that I literally just smiled at some old man with nice shoes the same way as …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:25 PM
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Is it bad that I just read this as you using sexism as an excuse? Like do you assume that any man you approach is just going to want to use you? How does that not make you sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:05 PM
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Which goes back to my earlier point…. They only have tradcon voices who speak for them because we insist on sanitizing feminist spaces of issues that relate to cishet men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:31 AM
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No you are making assumptions and are unempathetic. The only people who think men’s issues is just about men feeling entitled to women’s bodies are people who are willfully ignorant. It’s making a strawman so you don’t have to be bothered with actually having a productive dialogue “What they say” is almost never what they say verbatim but rather putting words in their mouth so you can create a boogeyman to deplatform an entire gender
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:34 AM
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No. socialist women would just end up dating the bureaucrats just as the sugar babies are dating rich dudes. If anything socialism would put women further down Maslow’s hierarchy of needs with respect to disposable income and would probably date for resources in an even more aggressive way than now. This is why Eastern European woman are like what they are now. Rich white girls going to liberal arts colleges see Soviet propaganda posters of women in the military thinking that was socialism givin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:20 PM
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I’m saying that’s a prejudice that is reified as we continue to sanitize feminist spaces of cis male heteronormative participation. All it takes is a google search to see that there is actually little correlation with incels and their political affiliation and that they are mostly non white. But pro men’s perspectives now are deemed pro white tradcon narratives till proven otherwise. I see this as a massive failure in accountability in actually being able to listen to what men are complaining ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:53 PM
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Totally reasonable. But it’s kinda our own fault as long as we make feminist spaces exclusive to catering to women’s issues. There’s basically a gulf now where if you’re a progressive man, you basically just have to accept being gaslit that everything is fine for you. The reality is that this is why there has been a massive shift among male youths to the right because the only men who can tolerate being progressive are men who are already self actualized and don’t deal with class struggle. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:45 PM
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It’s called feminism lol and as long as feminists make gender issues partisan issues then men’s movements are doomed to be tradcon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:28 PM

I doubt that guy actually has much sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:09 AM

So you’re saying that men you’ve refused sex in the early stages of a relationship have accused you of not caring about sexual compatibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:57 AM
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I think men and women are actually converging on what they want but many among both genders are not tolerating the transition. Toxic people are digging their heels in and trying to have relationships for personal consumption instead of trying to live up to either gender’s expectations. The extent to which men are in their “princess era” is also the extent to which women are in their “soft life” era. I’m dating women in their mid 30s now who have their life way more together than women I’ve dated…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:22 AM
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People who assume that the people they are dating are using deceptive communication without reason to believe otherwise are some of the most awful people you can date. And none of this really matters imo if the sex is enjoyable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:11 PM

Celebrity glow effect is very real. I think it’s worse with men but Sabrina Carpenter is an example of a “sex symbol” who is less attractive than women you could very easily find in public on any day of the week. If any of these women I see in day to day had the costume and makeup team that Sabrina has then they would also be drooled over https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/g4612/hottest-men-of-all-time/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mgu_ga_har_md_pmx_hybd_mix_us_17944…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:04 PM
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I mean I assume someone looking for an LTR isn’t only using apps. But I’d also argue that you’re artificially limiting yourself if you don’t use them. Dating apps have existed for a while but they didn’t become a dominating form of dating until the 10s. If you combine the fact that people aged 18-29 are less likely to have met their life partner by 29 anyways/more people in that group prefer casual vs 30+ then that 20% number is not insignificant whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:52 AM
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From the study: “According to a survey conducted in the United States in August 2023, men were more likely than women to have met someone on a dating app and have it lead to an exclusive relationship. Overall, 75 percent of men said they had entered into an exclusive relationship with somone they met on an online dating service, compared to 66 percent of women.” The stats say that most people who are using apps use it to find LTRs, but that they have a high failure rate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:42 AM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1481135/us-adults-exclusive-relationship-dating-app/ “Men on apps are just looking for hookups” -undateable woman The 10% number simply means that LTRs from apps have a high failure rate. It doesn’t mean that people on the apps are lying about their intentions. But some people who are driving on the wrong side of the road think that to avoid accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:21 AM
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This reads more like you don’t have many straight platonic male friends and are trying to guess what incels are doing based on what they complain about online. I guarantee you there are men who have ZERO standards and are still not getting dates
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:07 AM
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It is. I don’t personally suicide swipe. I got better results being selective but I understand that most men don’t have that option. But also saying that dating apps “aren’t the real world” is ridiculous. If 40% of new relationships come from them, then dating apps at least correlate with the real world by 40%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:52 PM
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It’s not personal. I’m just saying women who have a general dating app experience of only matching with men who don’t seem interested either lack self awareness that they are picking men out of their league or they are entitled or have anxious attachment and don’t have conversations on the apps with the men that entice the men to ask them out. Women who say that men aren’t interested in the girls they match with because they want supermodels is just using sexism as a way to feel better about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:57 PM
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Women are saying dating app data is meaningless because men apparently all swipe on women they aren’t interested in. But the point is that if you’re a woman and only matching with men who aren’t interested then that isn’t a reflection of men generally having super high standards that is a reflection of that individual’s lack of self awareness. And you’ve written mostly about dating apps and haven’t said anything about how “real life” shows men want porn stars and super models. That just comes of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:55 PM
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And one of the ways men filter the women they match with is not based on their age and how they look but how responsive they are. If you’re only matching with men who don’t want convos with you, then it’s not the man’s standards who are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:32 PM
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Yes this is true but this is also just you outting yourself that you are matching with men out of your league. After buying the stats feature on coffee meets bagel, I was astounded to learn that the most attractive women sent more first messages and had a higher response rate than the uglier women. This is because attractive women are confident and feel that they can use their words and actions to attract men as well and that they even enjoy the process of attracting a man. Mid women are stuck i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:27 PM
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This is not data about who they are swiping on. This just means if they match with women of a variety of ages, that they’d prefer the younger over older. They’re still swiping at a very high percentage of profiles they see
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:09 PM
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I just would like to see evidence of this because dating app data does not in any way show that men are only swiping on a tiny percentage of women. They are swiping on like half of the profiles. So while I agree w you in theory, I just don’t see the evidence People think that the people who are ok with having sex with you are your equal when that’s really not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:31 PM

Men suicide swipe (eg swipe on every profile) so that they can simply just see every girl who would match with him then they make their decisions from there. And this is because they get so few matches to begin with. As a result this means a lot of men match with women they have no intention of talking to. Then this creates a messed up dynamic where women do bare minimum messaging or never send first messages because women need proactive conversation from their matches to feel like they actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:27 PM
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“Reputation” often is just misogyny that women accept from their friends and family. My FWBs have kept me a secret in the past and not bc they were cheating. It’s just embarrassing for women to admit to their friends that they only see me to sleep with me and I’m not exactly paying any of their bills
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:39 PM
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I’ve been SA’d by men as well. It was in a professional context where I didn’t really have a way to defend myself. Men leverage their position of power often. But ime as a man, on average women have been worse with personal boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:03 PM
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This is a somewhat terminally online take by saying that what guys who like warhammer and building computers like him. It’s more than Henry Cavil is into nerd culture so he’s sort of a role model for guys who don’t want to feel embarrassed for having nerdy hobbies You don’t seriously think you see men online saying “this is what women should be attracted to”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:36 PM
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I did it for 3 years then it got old
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:07 PM
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Most people who explicitly vocalize that they want to be “protected and provided” for are usually asking to be infantilized Women benefit more from good sex than men do. Women were the primary providers for most of human history until patriarchy Are single women just “unprotected?” This just sounds like women who have bad sex they want compensation for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:52 PM
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Simply put, women have friend groups where their friends are regularly taking photos of each other whereas if I ever hung out with my guy friends, it would be kinda bizzare to do something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:35 AM
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Jude law in The talented Mr Ripley…. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:14 AM
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My gay friends don’t exactly gush over him. Arguably now he’s just a little too bulky for what most women would consider ideal but there’s also plenty of women who like that as well just like gay dudes like bears and twinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:44 PM
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Female gaze isn’t monolith. You just don’t have taste You haven’t pointed out a single feature or a reason at all why you find him attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:00 PM
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Ok u/My_House_on_Mars spokeswoman for all other woman’s preferences. He’s a good looking dude no doubt. But it’s not much different as to why Pete Davidson and Keanu also get so much attention. Personality is a huge factor. He’s got a patchy beard and a funny nose. But he is very endearing and has a great smile. But plenty of men pull off that look much better than him. Was watching a Knights Tale the other day and was floored by beautiful James Purefoy is. He literally outclasses Heath Ledger i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:55 PM
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<image> She looks so much better w/o makeup actually Not a flattering shade of lipstick on her. So many of her makeup looks online look like 2005 wants their makeup back. Like she just got back from a limited too bday party
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:45 PM
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The reason why he’s a heart throb has little to do with his looks imo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:45 PM
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<image> “I see his face is good looking” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:43 PM
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I find that women are equally obsessed. Lots of basic bitches out there who put themselves in either the Chris Evan’s camp, cavil or Chris Hemsworth. It’s like a recurring bar topic in a few of my social circles
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:40 PM
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She’s not bad looking at all but I’d argue her looks match would be more like a Timothy Oliphant (also a really good looking dude). And I can see how the bi girlies would like her given her more masculine jaw line (I don’t mind that btw. Ali larter imo is also very attractive) <image> Henry cavil is just widely considered to be somewhat of a gold standard for conventional masculine attractiveness. Kate Beckinsale imo is basically like the female version of Cavil in terms of conventional attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:38 PM
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Thanks! I’m not a big celebrity gossip person. I think I probably confused his partner with Hugh jackman’s ex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:10 PM
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Henry Cavil is also dating an older woman who is by no means unattractive but is not his looks match Attractive men have already had sex with attractive women. For a long term relationship, peace is more important than being with someone hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:58 PM
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6’3 190lbs lean. Decent face card. More likely to be groped/harassed by women than approached with any kind of politeness. That said most polite approaches I’ve experienced in life were when I was young and they were young (eg 21 and under). Post college it was like a light switch with these things. Much less warm behavior and very few polite approaches and more harassment. I attribute that more to common third spaces more available when you’re being educated that provides implicit social proof …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:46 PM
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I think a lot of social media brain rot advice exists due to people who had yet to have a serious LTR before COVID by trying to make sense of a scorched earth even though none of the “rules” they are trying anchor themselves to are real or universal in any way shape or form. The “rules” are 100% subjectively defined by parties consenting to relationships. People who choose or avoid potential partners on the basis of adhering to these non existent rules are literally just reading tea leaves It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:04 AM
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The issue is that sexual preference is really just loosely correlated with gender. It’s called sexuality not “genderality.” But I think it’s still a Kinsey scale thing. Fucking a trans woman is less gay for a man than if he fucked a cis man. And arguably having sex with a neovagina is a little more gay than fucking a homegrown one as the stimulus profile is a little different. But this is also where I think things devolve: A clit is a phallus. The clitoris itself is mildly masculine. In fact, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:50 AM
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I would be interested in a study examining violent tendencies of incels. I am curious what the rate of inceldom is among the average prison population vs the general population
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:17 PM
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You can find anyone justifying anything more or less. Even Jordan Peterson advocated forced monogamy. But then obviously most advocates for arranged marriages are not incels or adjacent. Often this is just a way for people to dismiss people who complain about being an incel. They want to turn their very complaint into something they can ascribe malicious intent onto. They want people to assume that people who complain about not having x must feel entitled to x. The political divide is interestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:55 PM
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I have a theory that this is what causes most or at least a statistically significant amount of in law drama. I basically ended a 7 year relationship because of this. I was subject dysfunctional behavior from an ex’s parent and my ex basically just told me to get used to it. Fuck that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:48 PM
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I’m not pointing at any evidence and nor is OP I don’t think people who complain about lack of commitment are any more or less entitled than people who complain about not getting sex. Love is different. I don’t know how OP thinks anyone could be forced to love. Makes no sense. Sure you got Elliot Rodger extremists who want to turn women into breeding receptacles but I don’t even see the most misogynistic incels claiming that love can be forced. Seems like OP is punching air They should make vide…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:39 PM
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Nor is commitment from people who have sex w you lol No studies show any correlation between rape and male virginity (inceldom) and actually stats show men who are virgins are more likely to be victims of SA than non virgins. Rhetoric like this is just people trying to ascribe malice onto incels that they very clearly hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:29 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/ “Analyses of pooled data from the American Time Use Survey of 2003 to 2011 indicate that on average, men spend about 10 hours more than women per week in paid work, although women spend about six hours more than men in household work and about three additional hours in child care, bringing the total work time to 45.6 hours per week for men and 45.2 hours for women.” Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:41 AM
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As fucked up as it sounds it’s probably better when it’s one way. When the dynamic is mutual it often ends with mothers being emotionally abusive to their kids with the dad rationalizing it and saying “your mom is just having a rough day” rather than holding her accountable for emotional abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:20 PM
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I’m sure we could come up with better terminology. IMO it’s “well my wife is better at boiling pasta so I’m not going to bother learning myself”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:51 PM
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It’s usually mutual and common. I call it the weaponized incompetence/hysteria exchange The man exchanges his weaponized incompetence in for having the right to shame his partner for being hysterical. So even though the husband is clueless when it comes to boiling pasta, the husband gets to feel like the adult by shaming his partner for being more unhinged. And sadly a lot of women are fine with this arrangement as many like to have the right to have emotional outbursts without being held accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:16 PM
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And this is why birth rates have been basically near zero until the Industrial Revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:58 PM
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Patriarchy changed gender roles my dude and in an unnatural way. Basically the rise of governments, militaries and modern agriculture coincided with this. Women’s gathering skills became less valuable once the plow was invented and their reproductive capacity overvalued due to the threat of conquest meaning that more babies=more soldiers. Nature wants women to be the breadwinners. Patriarchy has forced them to become whores
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:39 PM
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Because you picked an anxious avoidant who doesn’t like confrontation so she assumes all men she rejects directly will lash out at her. She doesn’t want that because her ego isn’t strong enough to not take seriously the words from men she wants nothing to do with. Some dude will call her ugly when she rejects him then she’ll literally assume that his word carries weight even though he’s demonstrably a pos and now women like this will make every man who doesn’t do that suffer godforbid she doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:53 PM
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In other news, Al Pacino expecting another child with his 29 yo partner
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:49 PM
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You don’t get it. Doordashers are my wife
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:17 PM
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No women also acquired protein as well just low risk game although I think studies show that even close to a third of women also participated in high risk game in some ancient societies. The modern equivalent would be a man starting a business and a woman having a steady job. Calories are calories. Money is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:22 AM

Much of the lonliness epidemic exists because women don’t want straight men to be a part of their friend groups because they care too much about what their jealous boyfriend thinks or they assume that straight men just want to fuck them I’ve got straight female friends so women who dismiss the loneliness epidemic yet have no straight male friends are kinda full of shit. I’m not sure why so many women insist on gender segregated platonic relationships. I would argue that straight men are actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:42 AM
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You’re literally citing evidence that women have been the primary breadwinners for most of history. Saying calories from high risk game is money and calories from low risk game/gathered food is groceries makes no sense. Both are forms of wealth. The act of buying groceries is not analogous to being the primary supplier of calories in hunter gatherer times
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:28 AM
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Most women do not have strong enough egos necessary to have the communication with a near stranger to have a satisfying sexual experience (also the sheer danger felt by being with someone of larger body mass than you). The experience itself will make them feel too vulnerable to communicate in a clear and unambiguous way and to feel confident enough initiating sex acts that they themselves feel they could derive pleasure from. They will fear reprisal from the man if they do something to upset him…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:18 AM
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It also just doesn’t reflect my experience. Many women purposely pick partners they see themselves being morally superior to as they feel being morally superior gives them security and leverage in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:32 AM

No only sexist femcels/cunts think that men just want sex If these women bothered to accept reality, they’d know that men want exclusive LTRs at the same rate as women and more men want to be fathers at a higher rate than women want to be mothers. Stats are stats Women just say only men want sex as cope after being in a 6 month situationship after the guy decides she’s not worth it long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:45 PM

And who are the ones complaining that men just want sex? Sure there are less eligible bachelors today, but today’s eligible bachelors are not proposing at the same rates as before. You’re trying to say because lonely virgins can’t get dates is the reason why eligible bachelors don’t want to marry women. These are not the same demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:40 PM
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It’s natural for everyone to respond to feedback as criticism. It’s not a gender thing imo and I think often women project a gender dynamic and assume that feedback is emasculating when it’s just plain old someone not responding well to criticism. I’ve had women just stop and throw their hands up in the air when I’ve told them I’d like to be touched differently. It’s just a super vulnerable state and people want to feel like their efforts are appreciated. Giving positive feedback on not just how…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:18 PM
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No just sexually attracted expresses sexual attraction in a confident manner
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:22 PM
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Pretty much like clockwork: The women I’ve slept with who have said men don’t care about their pleasure have mostly been women who barely speak during sex. The women I’ve slept with who say they’ve generally enjoyed sex were communicative. Men can’t be good listeners if they have nothing to listen to Quiet female lovers are the female equivalent of the male selfish lover
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:13 PM
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Majority of marriage proposals are from men. Marriage proposals from women have actually risen from 5 to 15%. If there are fewer marriages, it’s mostly because men aren’t proposing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:19 PM
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Are you seriously claiming women would be better off with no bc option as opposed to ones with risks? Are you seriously claiming that male alternative hormonal bc could be on the market but it doesn’t because men didn’t like the side effects that women tolerate? Do you think if there were similar options for men that they wouldn’t take them because of the risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:49 PM
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The risk of pregnancy is the only disproportionate risk but men don’t have access to birth control for themselves wo a vasectomy so women have more means to mitigate risk than men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:58 PM
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Masturbation and sex aren’t mutually exclusive. You don’t have to stop masturbating because you have a partner. But most satisfying sexual relationships require a degree of cooperation, communication and investment so often people addicted to porn or erotica can’t be bothered with the upfront costs. Women benefit wayyy more from good sex than men do. Moreover, most of the responsibility and work to make sex good is on the man. If there’s a good sex life, it’s because the man took initiative and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:39 PM
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Broken records can be easily fixed by setting boundaries: “hey you complain about this thing a lot to me and talking to me doesn’t seem to change anything. Could you try to find someone else to talk to your issue about who could be of more help?” Not hard imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:45 PM
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I think single women who can’t find good men are forgoing this as an option. I just can’t see how being an independent woman with a vibrator is a better situation than an independent woman with an FWB. Women are selling themselves short. Once I got to my 30s, I find it easier to get an FWB than someone who wants a relationship with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:27 PM
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Women simply are choosing to not go on the dates available to them/put less stock into dates generally. Singledom is rising and marriage rates are falling. That’s what the data says.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:00 PM
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These things that make isolation tolerable also make you a systematically worse partner. Getting your emotional needs serviced platonically in no way prepares you to be a supportive sexual partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:58 PM
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Ime, the extent of tolerable emotional regulation is defined by how much the other person regulates, which usually ends up creating a double standard where men tolerate women who don’t regulate themselves as well as he, and women who can’t tolerate men who don’t emotionally regulate as well as they do. Likewise, there is also just a basic level of emotional expressiveness that is not a matter of regulation but rather just how passionately some people communicate. Someone expressive may turn off …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:21 PM
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It’s just that the internet has encouraged anti social sexuality: Men are trained by the adult content they consume to be poor lovers (eg pov content sets the expectation that women are sex workers who perform sex acts on you) And women are being trained by erotica or porn as well so now women don’t know how to cum with anything besides a vibrator. It’s wild to see zoomers forgo having a sex life because they don’t feel like the can find someone who can be used to increase your qol of life via a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:05 PM
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It’s been zero sum. The degree to which women’s SMV has been inflated has been the extent to which their relationship value has deflated. It’s easier for a woman to get a first date today vs 20 years ago but harder to get married. Just how men on average have become lower value on the dating market with respect to their ability to signal resource providing and masculine affect, so have women lost value as long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:58 PM
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And you’re ignoring that sexuality is itself something that is marketing toward women. Buy a cosmopolitan magazine. Sabrina carpenter is more about women feeling sexy than being sexy for men Rihanna was the last mainstream pop artist to market herself explicitly to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:25 PM
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Sexual imagery=targeted at men? So things targeted toward women are desexualized? Go to a Sabrina carpenter concert lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:16 PM
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I can’t take people seriously who feel that 24/7 communication is a normal way to have a talking phase. I feel uncomfortable being on the beck and call of someone I just met. It feels forced and inauthentic to give impulsive replies rather than reading the text then making a more high effort reply later that helps me get to know you. Went on a date with a girl who practically ate my face off at the end of the date, I still send the goodnight text and she texts me the next day about something we …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:19 AM
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She literally went for the bi crowd and failed. So now she just is trashy for attention so she lost her female fans. That’s the only reason why she has a slightly disproportionate male demographic: not because she appeals to male gaze but because she failed to capture a queer audience. Otherwise I dunno if red curly hair Afro was the look that men typically go for. Anyway, there’s an overrepresentation of male pop artists who explicitly market themselves to women and a horrifying drought of fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:06 AM
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Rihanna was the last mainstream pop artist to appeal to male gaze I don’t think for either songs that men are the target demographic. WAP is a “feeling herself” type song. Juno is selling a fantasy to coomer girls. Sabrina’s sexuality comes off as incredibly fake. Her music is for sexually insecure white girls who want to feel sexy with each other without the risk of actual heterosexual interaction Granted I think Sabrina’s new cover art is controversial in an intelligent way. I think saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:13 PM
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I would be afraid of being used for her insecurities (eg she dates skinny men so she can feel like she’s “got it” bc she’s dating a skinny man)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:19 PM
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I talk with my female friends about their dating app escapades. I tell them that they are crazy for continuing to swipe when they already have several ongoing conversations. I cap my dating app convos at about 4-5 convos then I stop swiping. I guess I don’t get to experience a slot machine of dopamine because a match doesn’t mean I get someone sending me a first message with each match I get, I have to get the momentum going with every person more or less. And the girls who send first messages a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:07 PM
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Most of the hate fantasy of picking women out of his league directed towards incels is just projection of women who feel that they aren’t getting what they want because they are not pretty enough. If they bothered to look at the stats, incels aren’t swiping on only the top women on apps, incels are actually hurting themselves because they suicide swipe on every profile. Incels more often sell themselves short before they act entitled to supermodels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:04 PM
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How would you react if you dated a fat girl who says she can’t date fat men herself? I wouldn’t want to date a fat woman if she didn’t find other fat men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:01 PM
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I’ve only experienced female friend groups throwing a grenade (the ugly girl in the friend group) onto me then shaming me for not hooking up with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:59 PM
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It’s not black and white. Testosterone does mean that boys have the hormones for higher rejection tolerance and the ability to take risk even though girls recover from trauma better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:57 PM
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Getting stood up/ghosted is what happens most of the time so I don’t know if I can rank my ghostings and stoodups from worst to best. It’s just they’re all kinda shitty but it happens more often than actually getting the date. I guess the shitty ones are the girls who stood me up yet will even go as far as replying to some of my stories. It’s fucked because I’m probably just one of the hundreds of dudes they’ve matched with on an app that I gave my socials to and they probably forgot that they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:35 PM
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The hallmark of a good relationship is being with someone who can know your wants and needs without you having to tell them. The hallmark of an entitled woman is a woman who thinks she can get that without being a proactive communicator if she just finds the right guy. To get to the point in a relationship where your partner can read your mind, you have to be a proactive communicator in meantime to build up that knowledge base for your partner. People who are too anxious to ask for what they wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:30 PM
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No we just have terminally online femcels and their white knights who don’t know what the stats say https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/news/incels-are-not-particularly-right-wing-or-white-but-they-are-extremely-depressed-anxious-and-lonely-according-to-new-research
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:54 PM
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There’s no conspiracy. But there is a social media meta of tradcon men using incels as pawns as a grift to manipulate women. (Eg get women mad at incels so they don’t mind their rights being taken away because virgins in basements are the real threat to women today and not politicians and con men)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:08 PM
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There are more age gap relationships where the man is older than vice versa Likewise with environmental estrogens being so high, young women are getting their period earlier than ever in history. This is causing younger women to age much quicker than previous generations meanwhile the opposite is occurring in males where they are having their puberty delayed later than ever due to environmental estrogens. This is resulting in young men with stunted growth, little musculature, weak jaws and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:57 PM
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There never were many unspoken rules to begin with. It’s just that people who had little experience dating before Covid are grasping at straws by projecting unwritten rules to try to make sense of things but they are just pulling bs out of their asses or think brainrot dating content is representative of real dating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:27 AM
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This is probably just because these women have few straight male platonic friends so they only see what they see on the internet and use that as their data sample
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:02 PM
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(Terminally online) Women have a tendency to indulge in sexism based off of cherry picked life experiences. All they need to see is one comment of a man on instagram making fun of going to therapy or downplaying women’s mental health relative to men and they’ll use that as justification to deride the concept of men’s mental health entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:01 PM
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Because being romantic is important for me to have emotional intimacy w someone. Sex alone doesn’t really cut it so it would be a casual relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:46 PM

This only applies to women who prefer their vibrator over a person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:36 PM
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Only casual no exclusive LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:23 PM
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Quid pro quo isn’t the same as gratitude. I find that people mostly project quid pro quo that isn’t really there especially when there is a mismatch between people’s level of personal charity. Some people keep to themselves more than others and often these people think that “nice” people are manipulating them for favors. I’m also convinced that people who “complain” about “nice” people have trouble setting boundaries and are more susceptible to hot and cold narcissistic manipulation in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:12 PM
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Which is often why ending the relationship is a good solution if the changes in libido are permanent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:36 PM
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This is why I tell men to avoid swiping mid women because mid women get addicted to feeling like they have a bunch of options that aren’t really there for them. They get discouraged themselves when men they match with aren’t as into them as they’d like so that’s why so many women on the apps don’t respond to first messages and give low effort responses. They want to make men that they match with that they aren’t obsessing over feel lower value than themselves so they can get the validation of gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:23 PM
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It’s triggering because women don’t have success on the apps either. Especially the ones on Reddit. People don’t want to admit that it’s the people who use the apps who tend to suck and not just the apps themselves. Apps turn people into dopamine starved, anti social attention seekers. All the bad communication habits (eg ghosting and breadcrumbing) that were rare before dating apps, were normalized by the people who use them: especially the ones who had little dating experience prior to Covid w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:51 PM
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The goal is to make women susceptible to con men by sequestering incels to consumers of sex work. Doesn’t really work in practice as married men still consume the most sex work. It’s an unsustainable grift as this is a recipe for dead bedrooms. The very men they want to engender patriarchal power to are going to end up consuming sex work anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:45 AM
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Not what the stats show. Late gen x and early millennial women were wayyyyy more sexually active. It’s part of the redpill grift to enrage men by making them feel like most women have a ho phase when in reality the dating apps crashed the hookup scene and replaced it with the situationship scene. You can literally see the rate of casual sex nose dive in the early 2010s You’re brainwashed and not only deluded. Kids in high school and college are not fucking like they used to. It’s sad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:39 AM
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Redpill has switched to a dynamic of owning women as reproductive goods rather than sexual goods (with the exception of when redpill grifters are onlyfans pimps). “Enjoying sex is gay” is one of their new slogans. The reality is that young women today are in general way more prude than what’s in their best interest. Women are growing more and more disconnected from male sexuality and young people’s sexuality in general is antisocial and coomer like all around. Encouraging sex negativity among wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:08 PM
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And personally, I was in a relationship with a woman who I lost attraction toward after getting a dog and I did a disproportionate amount of the puppy rearing. The obvious solution was that she should just pick up the slack, but it can be hard to tell women that they aren’t pulling their weight. And yeah a breakup was the only solution. It’s incredibly difficult to want to fuck someone when she’s throwing tantrums about not getting sex meanwhile it’s her own behavior that is resulting in my lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:10 PM
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There are two kinds of dead bedrooms: The kind where it’s the man’s fault and the kind where it’s the women’s fault. When it’s the man’s fault the solution is simple: he just needs to take up the slack on his domestic responsibilities. When it’s the women’s fault, the only solution is to get a mistress or a divorce. The cognitive dissonance though is hilarious “Women don’t date men they aren’t attracted to.” “Step outside and you’ll see attractive women with ugly men in couples all the time” Peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:08 PM
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Awesome link I’m gonna save this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 06:07 PM
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One of the biggest reasons why zoomers are so sexually repulsed by each other is because of environmental estrogens leading to women having their first period at younger ages than ever meanwhile men have delayed puberty. We have female freshmen in high school nowadays who look like they are adults and their male peers look like they are still peeing their pants. Young women of course are repulsed by their same age peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:33 PM
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Love this response. I’ve heard from some psychologists that health conflict resolution creates a strong form of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:17 AM
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I agree with you. I’m just saying other people would react differently to that. My mom had a stroke when I was billed to cook thanksgiving for my ex’s family. I FaceTimed my mother discreetly and got her permission to stay with my ex’s family and cook them thanksgiving
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:11 AM
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A lot of people would consider what your husband did to be trauma dumping if he didn’t keep that to himself sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:51 PM
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Isn’t it endearing when you tell your husband “ugh you’re not listening” when you are ranting about something when he seems to not be paying attention then he responds by parroting everything you said back to you? Or if he genuinely fell asleep while you were talking and you shake him awake and he feels all guilty and then proceeds to give you his undivided attention when he’s a groggy mess? Do folks not want that? 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:38 PM
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Yes conversations aren’t just speakers and listeners which is why it isn’t rude to interject someone if they are rambling. People assume that someone rambling doesn’t listen. If you just communicate that you can’t follow their stream of consciousness and are having trouble relating to what they are saying, then they will make an effort to listen. I do this with my neurodivergent kids I work with all the time who have hyperfixations. They often are even apologetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:30 PM
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Because you’re assuming rambling is a lack of emotional intelligence. I’m suggesting that if you don’t communicate your preference to not be rambled to then you may be projecting that someone else is emotionally unintelligent when it’s actually your own lack of emotional intelligence I’m asking you how you gauge emotional intelligence and you say that by definition that ramblers aren’t emotionally intelligent. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:26 PM
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Does this ever feel contentious? I think most deep discussion happens when one person discloses a bunch while the other person waits and listens then the roles reverse. Tit for tat conversation to me feels more appropriate with a client or coworker. Some call this “question tag.” Often when meeting a client there is almost like a war to see who can be more polite. With meals this can also lead into who pays the bill with the person offering first being the one who gets brownie points then you se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:14 PM
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Ok I’ll make it simpler: Someone is rambling. You’re not enjoying it. Do you ever tell them that or do you just keep that to yourself and let the poor person dig their own grave?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:08 PM
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I’m just saying you’d be surprised by how many ramblers are perfectly capable of feedback and adjusting the conversation if it isn’t fitting your taste. Letting ramblers control the conversation meanwhile you’re not communicating what you want in your head is indeed another type of emotional illiteracy. It’s akin to people pleasing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:00 PM
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One time I was at a dog park and a college aged guy was with his pointer and I said something about bird dogs. He proceeded to give me an entire speech about how he trains his dog and what his dog is like. He didn’t know that I had a hunting dog with field experience and I pretty much knew everything he was telling me. But tbh I felt so happy to just be someone he could talk to as I’m sure he’d doesn’t get the opportunity to talk to someone who doesn’t give him subtle hints that they dgaf about …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:57 PM
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This as well. I think women regularly think that men are narcissistic when they probably are just nervous. Women will talk less when they are nervous but this doesn’t come off as rude. It becomes a recipe for bad social interaction when both people are nervous: the girl talks less and the guy feels compelled to fill in the gaps. This is just natural to happen, but unfortunately people make gross judgements about your character based on this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:44 PM
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But do you communicate that? I’d argue people who feels that interjecting someone rambling is inherently rude also lack social intelligence. Some people are fine with listening to someone ramble such as myself. What isn’t emotionally intelligent is assuming that everyone doesn’t want to hear a ramble and that ramblers are by default rude. I noticed this became an issue in college with discussions with underclassmen and just generally found it more prevalent with younger kids as I took time away …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:42 PM
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Some people like to ramble. I don’t really consider that lack of emotional intelligence but rather just more simple lack of self awareness. Sometimes it can be endearing. This is why I asked if you just let those people ramble. Someone who rambles and is emotionally intelligent would be understanding and will be fine with adjusting the topic if made aware that they are rambling. Someone who is emotionally unintelligent will simply just ignore you then continue to ramble anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:06 PM
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Women want to be friends with men who find them boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:11 PM
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IMO women don’t go for what they are attracted to enough. But often what tech companies have brainwashed women into to thinking is attractive has little to do with what their body responds to sexually. Women regularly pick men they are “attracted” to yet their body viscerally rejects him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:46 AM
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Men have almost systematically wiped their own preferences due to scarcity mindset and desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:44 AM
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A sequence of events that can only happen with the opposite sex in an appropriate age range?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:40 AM
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So what does that special spice consist of if it’s not only emotional connection? Again this just seems like het women with cognitive dissonance who feel ashamed to admit that there are aspects of masculinity that they are attracted to on a visceral level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:02 AM
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I haven’t really said anything about the timing of sex nor reevaluating their heterosexuality. I’m saying the other way around, if you are exclusively attracted to men and “demisexual” then if anything it’s your demisexuality that needs qualification. Are demisexuals capable of having deep platonic relationships with the opposite sex with emotional intimacy? If yes then why are you not attracted to them? Plenty of people refuse to have sexual relations until after an emotional connection is esta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:57 AM
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Not at all if you think that you’d be just as capable of having the same attraction toward women if you have an emotional connection with them. Demisexuality as a queer identity I don’t think is problematic. It becomes problematic as a heterosexual identity. Why would an emotional connection with men then create sexual chemistry but not with women? I’d argue if that’s the case then you still need to unpack your sexuality more as clearly it isn’t emotional connection alone that causes attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:38 PM
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There is no scientific correlation between your development of your prefrontal cortex and your “maturity.” There were meme articles that went around a couple years ago about how we aren’t fully mature until we hit 30 which have all been debunked by licensed psychologists who all agree that maturity is a matter of experience, not cognitive development in the long run. Prefrontal cortex development affects your ability to judge risks and rewards so younger people are more likely to take on risk fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:24 PM
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For me, if you do not express healthy attraction toward masculinity and are not secure and content with your sex life, then I assume you are in one of those categories unless proven otherwise. Even if a given woman has sincere and authentic attraction toward a male individual, I do not think that is enough to persuade me that these women don’t have self absorbed dating tendencies. The irony is that men fundamentally stand more to gain from transactional relationships than women. Nothing women ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:03 PM
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Wink and smirk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:52 PM
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There is pretty severe social stigma around men who have lots of sex but aren’t financially supporting the woman they are having sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:22 PM
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Data is difficult to find because of the confidentiality and privacy that OF affords their creators and also the incentive for OF themselves to keep this information under wraps. But this is a study focusing on one pimp alone: https://www.unco.edu/social-research-lab/pdf/of_report_1_19_24_final.pdf Literally only one trafficking operation afforded OF and their stakeholders a quarter of a million dollars. Corporate OF is massively profiting directly from human trafficking and is much worse than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:47 PM
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OF has massively increased young women’s exposure to sex trafficking Legalize prostitution You used to have to be poor and homeless to be vulnerable and now she just needs an instagram account
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:18 PM
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Lol you don’t think OF girls have pimps? Do you know how Andrew Tate makes money?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:15 PM
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We need to ban women from filming themselves having sex with their hairy ass sugar daddy with a fupa
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:14 PM
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Couples often understand each other better than academics understand gender
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:12 PM
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Yeah that’s because you’re putting the cart before the horse. Lots of (unhealed) people think limerence and falling in love is love bombing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:27 PM
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When you walk into a strip club, the dancers were not solicited to dance. It is simply their job obligation to do so. This is why we have the term “erotic dancer.” When they are being asked for perform a dance (not by their boss but by a patron), that is sex work. Like this is a pretty unambiguous line.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:23 PM
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Does that make any actress who makes money off of doing a sex scene in a movie a sex worker? You guys can argue all you like but the law is the law
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:16 PM
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Then all sex in marketing is sex work. Sexual depiction in cinema is sex work. Sex work is not causing pleasure, it is selling a sexual service that someone explicitly asked for Don’t know what to tell you. Porn stars aren’t whores. Most OF girls are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:14 PM
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They’re selling a video. Not chatting with dudes they’re telling to cum for them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:12 PM
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And couples who film themselves fucking aren’t sex workers either what’s your point? What’s so complicated that you can’t understand the difference between someone who is being solicited to perform a sex act for/on them vs someone who makes money acting? I guess I’m on Reddit after all
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:08 PM
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No not all strippers are sex workers. Many do prefer to be called dancers and anyone in burlesque would say that’s libelous. Strippers perform sex work when they get paid to do private dances. And yes cam girls are effectively doing the same as a stripper performing a private dance by doing it over the internet to chatters who solicit sex acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:07 PM
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Porn stars aren’t doing sex work. They are actors. They don’t sell sexual services to those soliciting them. They make money off of being paid by being an actress to perform with another actor or actress who is also getting paid. They earn a fee. Obviously plenty of porn stars do OF. And tbf if you’re just selling your videos but not having paraaocial relationships with your “subs” then that’s not really sex work either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:59 PM
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Literally that is not how the law sees it. Porn stars are actresses contracted to do a performance. They are not selling sexual services to patrons For the zoomers: https://everaccountable.com/blog/porn-vs-prostitution-a-fine-line/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:58 PM
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Zoomers don’t know the difference between a sex worker and a porn star. I’d literally rather be in a committed relationship with a pornstar long before an OF girl who only does solo content
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:59 PM
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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/newzoo-video-games-now-embraced-by-all-post-war-generations#:~:text=Unsurprisingly%2C%20the%20number%20of%20gamers,Alpha%20(2010%20or%20later). I’m surprised at how many gen xers game. Most of the rise of in how many people game is mostly attributable to it becoming destigmatized for women. But basically 80% of young men have gamed for several generations now and it’s not like zoomer men game that much more than millennial men did
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:09 PM
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No dating absolutely was easier IRL before dating apps. Dating apps have displaced what would be a lot of IRL dating today. The disappearance of third spaces has led to gender segregated socializing and reduced the amount of coed interaction from a HS to collegiate level when everyone is supposed to be mingling. Millennials arguably were more financially handicapped than zoomers as they were reaching employable age right when the recession happened. And contrary to redpill and even progressive s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:02 PM
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Because they’re pissed at how many dates they are going on that lead to nowhere. Acknowledging men’s struggles would also be admitting to their inadequacies so it’s easier for them to say that there just aren’t enough good men out there even though the good men aren’t giving them commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:11 PM
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I call this the zoomer fallacy of the “pious whore”: that using your sexuality as currency is only vain provided you don’t do it too often. Now we have sex workers who think they are pure because they don’t sell “bg” content when in reality pornstars are not sex workers, even though OF girls who don’t do bg content are technically sex workers as they are selling parasocial relationships no matter how “clean” or “sfw” their content is. Pornstars are actresses contracted to do a performance and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:15 PM
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I like Keira’s videos but she lost me when says that women bring sexual energy and men bring “relationship” energy. I think it’s contradicting herself to say that in one breath then in another say that women can either manipulate men with their appearance or they are dressing for themselves. Women attract and men act. Men bring sexual energy and women receive sexual energy. I think she is a little young and naive and tends to think how women can use looks to manipulate men when in reality you’ll…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:41 PM

The relationship would have also been lopsided if it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:38 PM
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Yes both men and women both hunted and gathered. Women on average produced more calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:39 PM
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“women's foraging (including small-prey foraging) may contribute as much or more to group subsistence as men's endurance hunting, which can be risky, unreliable, and confer as much social as caloric benefits (Bliege Bird & Bird, 2008; K. Hawkes et al., 1997; Lee, 1968). For women, time spent learning to and participating in endurance hunting would necessarily trade off against time spent learning to and participating in other foraging activities. Given the importance of these latter nutritional …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:13 AM
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I understand that if men can’t fulfill their roles as providers then they must compensate elsewhere. But tbh I have not gone on a date with a woman who has tried to test my emotional intelligence beyond asking if I read books or playing question tag. The statistical reality is that women think that men who make less money than them are apparently not as emotionally intelligent (which is obviously bs) I often hear women on social media complaining that all the men they date with don’t ask them qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:47 PM
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Its a projection of the fact that they feel that relationships are generally to big of an investment for themselves. If someone doesn’t bring something to the table, their actions will say so. But it is literally not true that men are natural providers. For most of human history, women provided the lion share of wealth to the community and wasn’t until modern agriculture, the modern state and patriarchy where that changed. Women became hypergamous as a form of survival. Now that women under 30 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:51 PM
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You’re assuming the purpose is manipulation. You’re putting the cart before the horse. Just because high value mate doesn’t need to lovebomb to attract a mate (I think love bombing generally does not work) doesn’t mean that they can’t “fall in love” and have limerence
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:24 PM
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This is not what love bombing is. This is just social media brainrot and you’re not entitled to other peoples commitment and they are allowed to change their mind. Not it’s not your “fault” that you didn’t live up to their “standards.” You just didn’t match their energy so you’re not compatible Love bombing is a manipulation tactic to force a toxic attachment. If they left you, the odds are you weren’t love bombed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:22 PM
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lol you clearly go out more than all these people who claim they “know a guy” and have been bystanders to hookup culture. Probably because they see hookup culture as degenerate but the decline of hookup culture is clearly a bad sign that we are less sexually empowered
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:10 PM
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Yes. Xennials were the most sexually active generation and zoomers are on track to become less sexually active than boomers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:03 PM
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You’ll strike a nerve with this because zoomers because have massive insecurities about being sexually kinda lame
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:59 PM
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I was once talking to a female friend who moved where she didn’t know someone. She said she made friends by saying she’s in town and doesn’t know anyone. That kind of blew my mind. People felt sympathy toward her where I would have been met with skepticism as my lack of friends would have been seen as a lack of social proof and that I’m untrustworthy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:54 PM

The information means that she is not LTR material. But the reality is that a lot of these women would invest more if I gave them commitment, but that is selfish behavior I find unattractive. I want someone to match my energy from the get go, not that they may or may not match my energy after I offer commitment. Unfortunately lots of women today think commitment is just something a man will give you if he likes you enough. It’s a sad time. If you want commitment you got to be committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:20 PM
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Also sex is a social activity. Masturbation isn’t sex. What works for masturbation doesn’t work for sex. I find zoomer sexuality so appalling because they are just trying to find a person they can masturbate to. They’re just a bunch of gooners who can’t understand that sex is a collaborative activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:08 PM
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A. “Chads” lie more about their n counts than other men. B. Hookups are not always no strings sex. Chads are having hookups with girls who want relationships with him. Girls are tolerating having shitty sex with socially popular men in hopes that it will turn into something. These women are rarely FWBs and chads are less likely to have FWBs than men who are genuinely more empathetic to women. They just have awkward hookups where Chad pumps and dumps and she doesn’t cum. C. Having word leak out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:01 PM

Haven’t given up on dating per se but am currently taking hiatus on dating for a life partner although I still am open for casual and have an FWB. I’ve stopped for the moment because i simply have too much self respect to be treated the way I am by people I go on first dates with. I have a base expectation that the person I’m going on a date with is going to try to get them to make me feel liked and I the same to them (EVEN IF IM NOT COMPATIBLE). If they cannot fulfill this basic expectation the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:51 PM
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Barely. And usually shitty sex. Women don’t select men for casual sex based on sexual competence unless she is HL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:39 PM
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This is a caricature of what the xennials did. Female xennials will have had way more good sex than zoomer females of the same age group. There absolutely was a college SA crisis, but it would be absurd to say that the decline in sex rates is only from people abstaining from bad experiences. It’s mostly from antisocial tendencies that younger people had. Not that zoomer women are more enlightened than xennial women If you don’t know how to sexually interface with another human being, then you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:37 PM
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Thank god I had a normal hs/college hookup experience. Wild to think kids who aren’t old enough to have a serious relationship are literally skipping out on having sex just because they think a dead af hookup culture is vain when hookups 15 years ago had more purity to them than most new relationships today. We’re gonna have a generation of women who think that being sexually empowered is reading erotica and having a vibrator. It’s pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:18 PM
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Makes no sense to task boys with fixing an education system that they are a victim of. There will never be enough men to mentor other men until they’re are broad cultural/social/political change
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:41 PM
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Projection. Most people who want to feel safe feeling vulnerable and want emotional support for it rarely have the energy to do the same for someone else. They are already too burnt out by the things they want emotional support for to give emotional support to someone else. And in the case of women, women sometimes believe that having to give their man emotional support means he’s unreliable and weak. Never has happened to me personally. Most relationships have one person being the handkerchief,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:52 PM
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Why are you making this about sex? If he’s just wiggling his dick and not doing clit play that’s because he doesn’t love you and sees you as low value
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:57 PM
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You’re contradicting yourself if you say women aren’t part of the solution and then in the next sentence saying that female educators have a responsibility for young men. The front lines for the issue of male “loneliness”(I think estrangement is a better term) are educators. Most educators are women and they are failing spectacularly at tackling this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:31 PM
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And id say these women care about being rewarded for things their employer would care about and not a romantic partner. Professional achievements are admirable: not loveable. You are a good partner the extent to which you invest in the relationship and make your partner feel loved. It does not really correlate much with personal achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:25 PM

It’s a common stereotype that physically attractive men get into LTRs with slightly less attractive women. Plenty of dating influencers talk about this. Sexually attractive men in a way take it as bare minimum that their partner is sexually attracted by default. Attractive men simply aren’t going to be interested in women who aren’t clearly interested in them because attractive men simply are used to that and aren’t going to downgrade their courtship ritual to being the one who is pining. They p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:20 PM

Most women who say this just lack self awareness that the men they are attracted just don’t like them enough to put the effort in that these girls want from them. Lots of women pick the guys they like based on what they fantasize about them and not what these men actually do for them. They see the men they have crushes on as cut out figures they want to paste into their dream life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:39 PM
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I generally think people who talk about boys having issues tend to assume that you’re just complaining about not getting laid so it spoils the conversation. It just seems like there is an allergy to having women participate at all on this issue. Men have a collective responsibility to be feminist. And female educators have a responsibility for young men. The second worst cohort are the people who think only women should invest in women’s issues and only men in men’s issues. The solution to this …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:20 PM
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This is news to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:18 PM
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By why is it failing young men moreso compared to young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:01 PM
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Or just have men only be allowed by invite only and strictly maintain a 50/50 gender ratio and only once a man deletes the app can a new one join. Men pay and it’s free for women. No card stack to swipe on: you get a gallery to view everyone in your radius before you swipe on them so you can pick your preferred partner out of all candidates in your region. No ELO system. Instead have a ranking system based on your engagement not on your swipe to match ratio. The gallery will recommend people at …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:50 PM
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Ok so you don’t know what an antitrust lawsuit is then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:17 PM
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Do you know what an antitrust lawsuit is lol? I agree the concern is wayyyy too focused on men trying to get dates when boys are being handicapped long before they are even done with puberty
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:03 PM
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I made an example that’s political as an analogy. But you’re entitled to feel however you want about this. Lots of people feel gender is political
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:53 PM
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How is saying you sound like an incel criticizing women whataboutism?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:52 PM
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On an individual level sympathy indeed does nothing. But society not having collective sympathy for male youth is the reason why they are falling behind. An antitrust lawsuit against match group probably would do the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:32 PM
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I mentioned it. the way you sound is like an incel criticizing women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:31 PM
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It’s always interesting that criticism of incels often sounds exactly like incel criticism of women (eg “victim complex”) I’m no trump guy but it’s interesting seeing folks on the left criticize his supporters for being overly sensitive like how progressives were criticized for being “snowflakes” It’s like a cycle of chips on shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:53 PM
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The issue seems that women think treating their partner nicely is patriarchal conditioning so women throw the baby out with the bath water and become awful partners once they liberate themselves from their conditioning. It’s not much different than incel misogyny, but tbh more of those men are not dateable and many women who don’t want to support male partners are women who are perfectly capable of being decent partners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:14 PM
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Where am I saying that having sex is the only point in dancing? No it’s more embarrassing to only dance with friends you do the same thing with every weekend vs someone new you have attraction toward. I already have decent friends who don’t make clubbing a routine. They actually invite people to their place or make plans to do things that don’t involve alcohol. I have a shitty group of friends that do clubbing Groundhog Day. And I feel sorry for all the boyfriends of these friends of mine becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:10 AM
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How the hell would I know they have boyfriends? These women go to bars without their partners. They don’t tell me until I literally meet the dude at the bar and then all their friends are like “do you know this guy? I don’t know this guy?” My experience is that most women at bars are not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:12 PM
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Collective emotional intelligence of all genders has nosedived in the past 15 years
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:56 PM
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Good for you. And the vast majority of women I’ve taken home from bars and clubs had boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:06 PM
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Where am I disagreeing? Dancing on its own is fun. Dancing with sexual tension is better. Not sure where you’re getting the impression that I think dancing and socializing isn’t fun. What isn’t fun is being a part of a friend group where some are alcoholics amd some aren’t who go to the exact same club every weekend and expect something new and exciting to happen every time. These people are not expanding their social sphere whatsoever. They are in groundhogs day with the same people every weeke…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:04 PM
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As someone who used to be a literal promoter and has failed to not split my pants at the past 3 weddings I’ve been to: The more sex appeal the party has, the more dancing there is. Dancing with your friends is great but dancing with someone of the opposite sex you’re attracted to is better. If you throw a party and no one had sex after it, then by that metric it wasn’t a good party. Clubs and bars for the most part nowadays is just a groundhogs day for people who don’t want to grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:00 PM
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If you’re going out regularly to clubs and not having sex, then that’s more embarrassing. Why are you going to clubs then apart from seeing music you like? Social media photo op? More embarrassing than trying to get laid. Waiting to see if people you know show up yet you have them in your contacts info? Embarrassing. Free drinks and attention? Embarrassing You’re an alcoholic? Embarrassing If the reason why you’re going out to a club is because it’s Saturday and not that there’s a particular eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:42 PM
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Parties aren’t going to clubs. The point of a party is that they can be more personal and are usually hosted by people trying to entertain guests. Clubs and bars attract superficial personalities who care more about the optics than the vibes. And you’re dismissive from your POV. Often people looking for romantic partners are dismissive of the routine alcohol consumption and seeming addiction to having repeat gatherings at clubs that are going to have the same experience every time. And to me peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:40 PM
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Lots of people go to bars and clubs to meet a partner and not because they actually like going to bars and clubs. Sadly this is becoming a smaller demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:15 PM
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I just say you look trashy af if you let other men order you drinks and if I someone I knew told me they saw my gf doing that then I’d probably say she wasn’t my gf and that it’s an open/casual relationship I will also say that I don’t mind going on girls nights out and I will complain about why they go have girls nights at bars where they can’t hear each other speak and the alcohol is way more expensive than if they bought it at the store themselves. I will say it’s immature and preventing me f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:53 PM
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The orgasm gap is simply a reflection of the average women’s preferences: good sex is not a priority for a lot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:01 PM
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Hypergamy is exaggerated. There are plenty of left leaning people who even think hypergamy is natural. I honestly don’t think the archeological data supports it. Hypergamy starts really around the same time patriarchy started (11,000 years ago). Hypergamy became a form of survival for women in early patriarchal society. Is it possible that patriarchy has rewritten the nature of women? I’m not sure. There only have been so many generations and history hasn’t really consistently gone in the direct…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:28 PM
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Hypergamy is exaggerated. There are plenty of left leaning people who even think hypergamy is natural. I honestly don’t think the archeological data supports it. Hypergamy starts really around the same time patriarchy started (4000 years ago). Hypergamy became a form of survival for women in early patriarchal society. Is it possible that patriarchy has rewritten the nature of women? I’m not sure. There only have been so many generations and history hasn’t really consistently gone in the directio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:27 PM

More women find older men hot than men find older woman hot. This is a cope comment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:40 PM
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Original definition of pick me: woman who puts other women down to get attention Brain rot definition of pick me that insecure women who think “black cat” energy will get them a relationship: women who put in effort to get attention from the men they like
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:38 PM
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lol imagine how pissed off the commenters would be if this was about rejecting men for being too small 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:31 PM
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Did the weight correlate with the age? (Eg the older the more healthy weight)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:09 PM
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Wild that you think that is analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:29 AM
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Men collectively lack an internal locus control to force society to recognize this is a collective issue. Men aren’t suffering because they lack initiative to improve their own individual lives, they suffer because men are politically unpersuasive and don’t know how to politically advocate for themselves without appearing tradcon. We are so collectively pussy whipped that we failed to convince a gynocentric society that patriarchy is meant to oppress men who do not meet patriarchal standards. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:27 PM
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I’ve worked with plenty of ND folks when I was in nonprofit. She was not on the spectrum at all. Just insufferable and has a superiority complex with a “I want what I want” attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:18 AM
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lol I didn’t tell her that she’s an insufferable miserable cunt. I kept that opinion to myself. She did ask me when I was free again. She was a killjoy as well. Just an all around bummer to be in the presence of. She did say that the homeless person who physically assaulted me probably thought I was cute so tbh I wouldn’t mind saying that stuff to her face
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:43 AM
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I feel so sorry for the men who think that getting a relationship means avoiding stepping on landmines. I’m seeing lots of younger men in relationships with highly reactive women who constantly are trying to avoid not setting their gf off. It usually makes everyone in the room uncomfortable because often these couples are an inconvenience in group gatherings. I almost panicked after I asked her if she’d consider living elsewhere and I was like “oh shit she probably thinks I’m some controlling du…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:21 PM
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Yeah I could tell this girl was pretty into women’s issues and felt a little detached from interests that men have. I was happy to talk about romance novels and quirky indie films with her but it was pretty obvious that she wasn’t going to want to branch out of her own interests. I could also tell she asked me if I read books a lot as a hobby because I’m sure she uses that as some shit test/dealbreaker question on dates. She most likely wants to date a guy whose hobbies are exclusively things sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:20 PM
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Yes they are almost all Jewish themselves and obviously can’t be bothered to date a Jewish man in their own height percentile. Hinge is almost unusable for me because hinge thinks because I’m Jewish then I must be compatible with Zionists. I’m probably gonna stop. It’s pretty obvious that I’m just being fetishized but it’s also easy sex. I’m clearly checking this list of arbitrary boxes they have meanwhile I’m trying to be a normal human being and find people I want to be in a relationship by go…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:02 PM
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She wasn’t fat. But she was short. I did say how men’s height probably isn’t a problem to her and she replied that she can’t help what she’s attracted to. I’m Jewish and says so on my profile. I’m realizing I’m being typed by women who want someone Jewish but is also tall (barefoot 6’3 so every girl I meet from tinder makes a comment about my height then I say it’s because you’re dating liars). I made a joke saying how I dunno if I want to share my genes with someone as short as her and she laug…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:29 PM
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Her prof had good pics. It wasn’t her physical appearance that was unapproachable but her demeanor. Like most women on apps, she had a superiority complex and obviously feels like the men who do ask her out are beneath her station. Avoided eye contact a lot. Also looked off into the distance whenever there was a lull in the conversation. Her questions were generic. Any time I spoke in general terms, she would follow up with “like what” as if everything I said was full of shit. Gave my opinion ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:20 PM
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Lol just went on an awful tinder date with a girl who complained about men not approaching her and I’m like maybe it’s because you’re an insufferable miserable cunt who looks about as approachable as a rabid raccoon. The lack of self awareness of some women who say this stuff is astounding. I don’t get why men who feel they’ve creeped out women aren’t very explicit about telling the women they creep out are paranoid. Timid men are too afraid of women who get creeped out. They should just say “he…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:01 PM
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Pretty much all wealthy couples I know met in college. College is often seen as a filter itself: if you’re going to a good college then you are signaling your greater potential
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:00 PM
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Why would you think that? How would men settling in any way invalidate what I’m saying? Yes both men and women settle, but they ways in which they settle are gendered
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:28 PM
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And his point is that it is a gendered issue lol Naive women will literally have sex they don’t enjoy in hopes that it will get better. Internalized misogyny causes women to stick to their bad choices because they’d feel slutty for not committing to their choice. They don’t want to increase their n count by admitting they picked the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:36 PM
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That’s lashing out? There’s social pressure for women to feel pampered and stuff you wrote that I didn’t. Lots of women are insecure about not having this experience that incels claim all women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:19 PM
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What am I lashing out? I mentioned other women lashing out and now you just seem to be parroting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:02 PM
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Don’t see how that has anything to do with what I’m saying. Women over 30 can still date just as men can choose to date women under that age. No bid deal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:56 PM
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Mostly a term that miserable people use to shame men who remind them of their own shortcomings
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:42 PM
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The average woman on a dating app basically has this experience and even if she doesn’t have this experience, she’s insecure about not having that experience and she will lash out on her insecurities about this by being a brat to men on apps who don’t fit her fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:22 PM
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Correction: only see people as individuals and people who don’t return the favor don’t deserve your empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:20 PM
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So only have sex you enjoy and understand you true love isn’t possessive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:45 AM
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Some women genuinely will prefer being abused by a man with money than to be treated ethically by a man who makes the same as her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:54 PM
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While rape culture is real, most critiques of it from terminally online pseudo feminists comes from a hate fantasy about a caricature of locker room talk. it’s the idea that dark male humor in male exclusive spaces causes rape. This is a plausible line of thinking when stuff like rape gangs in India exist, but those are not fueled solely by locker room talk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:34 PM
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I give the women I date period candy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:40 PM
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Correction: STRAIGHT men are not allowed to be feminine. Gay men of course are still policed for their femininity but not as harshly as straight men bc we expect femininity from gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:37 PM
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Compatibility is not a matter of right and wrong. It’s not as if you’re only compatible with ideal men who don’t want you. Them not wanting you is itself more “wrong” than being incompatible. Wanting an ideal partner without understanding how you need to be “wanted” as well is an antisocial approach to dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:57 PM
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I’m not. But it seems some people replying to me think that all of those 45% of women would rather be single than with an ideal partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:36 PM
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This still confirms that standards are too high if you are single. And the reality is that the you are no more a “wrong” or “right” partner than the people who are eligible to you. If you can’t attain your ideal partner then you are “wrong” for them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:17 PM
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Do you think 45% of women 25-44 all want to be single over having their ideal partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:10 PM
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It’s projected that by 2030 that 45% of women 25-44 will be single. So that seems like statistical confirmation that yes these women are not getting the relationships they want Women today (especially younger) don’t seem to understand that the quality of a relationship is not determined solely by your choice in partner but also by your own level of investment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:04 PM
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When combining unpaid and paid work men on average still contribute more on average than women. In egalitarian households (eg the data in the article showing hours spent by both working wives and husbands) women on average only contribute more than 1.5 hours more than working men a week which is smaller than the difference in leisure time. And even in those cases working husbands still do more paid work than the difference in leisure time. There genuinely aren’t stark differences until after kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:21 PM

Low IQ women are slaves to their dumb cunts. The irony is that non felons can also make them cum but it’s just that the drama is foreplay for them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:54 PM
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“Blue pill” you guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:49 PM

Relationships themselves are a skill that needs to be practiced. Going from never dating to being totally self actualized then starting to date for the first time can be a bull in a china shop scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:31 AM
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Despite having more opportunities, younger women today across the board have less sex than pretty much all generations going back to WW2 (which technically was a blip bc of ww2) so technically pre depression babies
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:55 PM
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That’s fine! I’d still be open to opportunities if they present themselves even if you don’t want to be proactive. Don’t push anyone away who wants to try. And maybe learning to be content with your solitude will make you feel less stressed when those opportunities do present themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:51 PM
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