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Ok great we’re in agreement. Yes, she was asked for her advice, I never said she couldn’t give her advice, all I said is that her advice is laughable because of how unhelpful it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:56 PM
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Because the supply of women would be theoretically greater in those pro choice states. But in real life, the attractive top 20% (or arguably less) will get tons of pussy regardless of abortion law. Women simply do not have the same appetite for casual sex as men do. And when they do have casual sex, it is with higher value men because of the supply and demand dynamics when it comes to casual sex. This whole question is a joke because there’s nothing the average guy can do except go for fugly wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:50 PM
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If the average guy on the street approached you (while you’re single) and asked "Hey, if you are ever single... Can you tell me how to get on the short list, for next time you are lonely for some late night company?" How likely would be get casual sex with you? And when I mean average guy, I mean a 5’9 forklift operator who earns $60k/yr with the face of JD Vance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:47 PM
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Excuse me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:20 PM
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That would lead a lot of men running to pro choice states to get casual sex, but the women looking for relationships would move to the sausage fest states to better shots at relationships. I don’t think that would change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:51 PM
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I said maximum 2%. Might as well swipe on a dating app it’s less effort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:34 AM
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Just like pro choice women can move to states where abortion is legal right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:31 AM
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She doesn’t admit to this, but I suspect this is why she’s worrisome
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:30 AM
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I don’t have tik tok so I can’t see. But you women don’t want low value men anyways so you aren’t affected
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:32 AM
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I’m a woman. This is my opinion. “Never ask a fish how to catch fish, ask the fisherman”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:26 AM
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Lmao this is comedy "Hey, if you are ever single... Can you tell me how to get on the short list, for next time you are lonely for some late night company?" This will have a 2% success rate tops. IRL, this type of neediness/desperation is repulsive towards women (unless the man is out of their league)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:48 AM
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Legalize prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:42 AM
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You’re only proving my point. If western women don’t care then why should passport bros be stopped?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:30 AM
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None of those things (except #4) are caused by an international marriage. In regards to #4, women don’t want those guys anyways so it shouldn’t hurt them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:27 PM
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Why should this be stopped? You did a CMV without even explaining your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:24 PM
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I probably have read more nonfiction books than you. You cannot disprove my arguments. The fact that women (including feminists) usually prefer tradional male gender norms like men being bigger/stronger, higher status, high earning, more confident, and get turned on by dominant men is contrary to egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:01 PM
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How is Chris Brown desirable for a long term relationship? Isn’t he a woman beater, violent and drug abuser? He also doesn’t have a great relationship history. You tell me. Tell me why 9/10 woman would rather marry Chris brown than an average guy who works as a forklift operator. I don’t think this is rocket science. Women who would want Brown for “long term” are probably after his money Yes, money is a big part of men’s mate value because women give large weight to a man’s resource capacity in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:12 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39575680.amp No I asked who is more desirable for long term relationships, Chris brown or Lana Rhodes. For short term sex is different because most men are willing to have short term with a promiscuous woman, because they’re hoping history will repeat itself 😉 Reily Reid is married to a nobody lmao, same with Mia khalifa. Anybody can find a marriage partner if they go low enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:24 AM
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If a 40 year old only wants to date 20 year old women, would that be as acceptable to you as a short woman who wants a tall man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:55 PM
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Not wanting a promiscuous woman isn’t necessarily a value judgement. It can be for people who are religious, etc but for people like me I don’t think promiscuous women are immoral, I just can’t be attracted to be with a promiscuous woman in a long term relationship. Here are more examples involving non physical features Are non 6 figure earning women who want 6 figure earning men hypocrites? Are low status women who want high status men hypocrites? Are insecure women who want confident men hypoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:31 PM
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Status is in part determined by resource capacity. Ancestrally, a man who owned 100 goats would be deemed higher status than a man who only owned 2 goats
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:03 PM
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Melania was a model who took one topless photo shoot. Not exactly a pornstar or sex worker If you think men and women’s preference against promiscuous mates is not that different, who do you think would have more people interested in being with long term, Chris brown who fucked a thousand women or some beautiful model woman like Lana Rhodes who also got fucked by a thousand men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:01 PM
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They are opposite preferences. Anything pro sodomy is controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:57 PM
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About what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:53 PM
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According to the people who think it’s hypocritical for a man who wants a virgin even though he’s not a virgin himself, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:49 PM
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Again, similar misunderstanding. You are taking little excerpts out of context to try to get a “gotcha” moment. When I said the previous comment it was in relation to this thread. When I said men are invisible in those screenshots it was referring to men being invisible to women of their mate value. For instance, women of average attractiveness don’t wanna be with men of similarly average attractiveness, average women want above average men. This is because of female hypergamy. Technically a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:48 PM
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Lmao that was from over two weeks ago but I think there is a misunderstanding of the word settle. When I used the word settle back then I meant mate with men below their mate values. Like a female who is an 8 with a man who’s a 6. When I’m saying women settle right now I meant in the sense that they can’t fully actualize hypergamy. For example that 8 female may want a 10 man, but she may settle for a guy who’s an 8
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:41 PM
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You didn’t really answer the question. Previously you said you shouldn’t justify preferences based on evolution. However preferences tend to be based on evolutionary traits. Bisexuality isn’t based on evolution so that’s not a good example
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:39 PM
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Chest
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:13 AM
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I said that women usually want more dominant men. Not that they want to be dominated and bossed around. Basically women usually want a man who’s more powerful and in a higher position of status. Also women usually want taller and stronger men. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want men with more resource capacity. No, parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:13 AM
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Quick Google search: Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more noun either of the two soft, protruding organs on the upper front of a woman's body that secrete milk after pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:15 AM
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Sure. The original point was the women are more unified than men because women are weaker and benefit more from the unity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:10 AM
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The big deal is I’m not attracted to men. Women like you put us men in a lose-lose situation just blame us for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:10 AM
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I didn’t deny any of these things. I just said women are more unified than men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:09 AM
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I never said average men are invisible I never said women don’t settle Ok whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:08 AM
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If a man pretends to be a multimillionaire with fake money, photoshopped photos, counterfeit money cars and clothes, a blue check mark on Instagram, etc, wouldnt that make women’s preference for high status pretty illogical and not based in fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:06 AM
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I agree that cues of high status is cultural and change over time. But that’s not my question. My question was is women wanting high status men a biological drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:02 AM
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Hot take but with the knowledge that men would do a lot of things if they weren’t illegal Sure, but so would women A man saying he wants to only date 18 year olds is pretty deviant. No statistically it’s not deviant because 18 year olds are the most right swiped age for women on dating apps “For Online Daters, Women Peak at 18 While Men Peak at 50, Study Finds. Oy.” https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html#:~:text=That%20anecdote%20came%20to%20mind,who%20are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:01 AM
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It’s an attribute that they want in the opposite sex that they don’t have themselves. Attributes can be physical, financial, mental, emotional, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:58 PM
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What an unintelligent argument. Everything I named are traits that women have. Women have varying heights, money, status, and degrees of mental strength. Breasts are something men can’t have because males don’t develop mammary glands
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:56 PM
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That’s nonsense. Dr David Buss’ 37 cross cultural study proved that in every single examined culture, men cared more about a women’s sexual past than the reverse. This is an adaptive trait to content with the evolutionary problem of parental uncertainty that men had to contend with. It’s not low standards, it’s a specific adaptation to an adaptive problem Those porn stars are not getting married to high status men. Sure any woman can get married to some bum, that’s not an achievement. There is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:55 PM
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Sorry, men and women have different evolved mating preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:51 PM
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Men won’t say it in person for obvious reasons. Also the lower mate value the man is the less likely he’s going to be picky
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:50 PM
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I agree. And some of them are higher status than others in that structure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:49 PM
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You get the point, some animals do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:48 PM
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Maslow heirarchy of needs is well accepted in the scientific community. Any person with half a brain will tell you you need a sex life for a self actualized fulfilled life. Evolution is a theory. Gravity is a theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:48 PM
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I never said men have a preference against high earning women, I just said men tend not care care much about it. It of course desirable but not the main attraction cues of women. Men chase 22 year old women because they’re attractive, not because they’re high status. It is funny old women like you try to tell men to stop chasing girls in their twenties and go older, but as a man in my twenties older women don’t want me because I’m to young/low status/broke and young women don’t want me either be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:45 PM
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So where do you draw the line between preferences and evolutionary instincts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:39 PM
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OP's saying that a man who says he wants a submissive partner should be viewed the same way as a woman saying she wants a dominant partner, but those things aren't equivalent they are in the sense of evolved mating preferences. Evolutionary, men were more dominant than the women, that’s why most women prefer a more dominant man and most men prefer a more submissive woman If a woman expressed a preference for a partner they could boss around, I would judge her too. This does not fit my argument t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:38 PM
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Not as much as women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:29 PM
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I just drew an analogy. Men tend to be stronger and more independent than women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:29 PM
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Maybe but not as fast as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:28 PM
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You can say the same of pedophilia and incest
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:28 PM
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Unprotected male homosexual sex leads to the highest STD’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:27 PM
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Glad we are in agreement, too bad the previous commenter won’t answer she totally ignored Lisa Bilyeu so I think she realized she’s in a lose-lose situation if she answers the question
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:10 PM
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You claimed pedophilia and incest are unnatural based on the immorality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:06 PM
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I’ve never heard of Lori Harvey and doja cat getting slammed for their preference. I think you’re just hyper focused on women who get small amounts of push back
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:59 PM
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Because biologically there are cues of high status. Women pick up on these cues. For example, men with the most resources land respect from the group are cues of high status. Even other animal groups like chimpanzees and lions have status heirarchy. There was an experiment done on chimpanzees where the chimps stared at the faces of the high status chimps longer than the low status chimps, just like humans would. There is something biological about status. If status is not biological, why do wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:57 PM
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Those things you mentioned is not part of the Maslow heirarchy of needs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:48 PM
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More often then not. You’re trying to dilute the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:46 PM
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So it’s more unfair to discriminate against the short man than the promiscuous woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:48 PM
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His book is based on studies “This book provides a unified theory of human mating strategies, anchored in the best scientific evidence available on sexual psychology.” Also they are not all dominant cultures he studied. He studied rural tribes like the Yanamamo, Zulu, peoples in rural Kenya and papaua New Guinea. None of these cultures have access to tv, radio, music, etc that can provide cultural exchange. Because in all those tribes without exception the men preferred purer women than the reve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:47 PM
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Again, I agree men should be more collaborative. But I don’t think you can out do biology (on a society wide basis). Men are more egotistical, self reliant, etc. If there is a way to do it I’m all for it but I just don’t see men becoming unified like women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:26 PM
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Naturalness has nothing to do with morality. It’s natural for other people to kill others and take their wives and property, but doesn’t make it moral. You are creating a disingenuous argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:21 PM
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No I don’t think it’s hypocritical. People want what they want and they dgaf if they have those attributes they want. BUT if we are using her logic it is hypocritical. It is a double standard to say that high body count men are hypocritical for wanting low body count women while saying it’s not hypocritical for a short woman to want a tall woman or a low status woman wanting a high status man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:19 PM
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If someone is doing something against their innate biology, would you agree that’s unnatural?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:17 PM
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So women wanting high status men is not biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:16 PM
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Do you say you want to be penetrated roughly in real life? Most normal people don’t say their sexual desires in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:15 PM
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Is women’s want for a higher earning, more dominant, higher status man seen as unacceptable in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:14 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:13 PM
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You don’t agree that women want richer and higher status men? Are you a hypergamy denier?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:13 PM
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I’m generalizing. IN EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY MOST OF THE WOMEN HAVE KIDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:12 PM
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Because it affects how men get treated in real life. Stop acting like society doesn’t affect your life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:12 PM
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Just extrapolate the American data to a fit the same relative heights of Europe. Also 6’ is still taller than most of Europe. West Europe is still about 5’9 on average and south Europeans are even shorter. Regardless, women tend to prefer above average height men (relative to their society). I made a sound argument based on the same logic you told me. You said it’s okay for an average height woman to prefer a tall man, because height is a dimorphic trait that women are shorter. I’m telling you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:11 PM
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Homosexuality leads to higher rates of veneral diseases like HIV/AIDS. You can find potential harm in anything Anyways, do you agree that for a sexually reproducing species to exist, the organisms must be sexually attracted to the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:02 PM
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The commenter above said wanting attributes you don’t have is hypocritical. I am just using her logic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:00 PM
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They hear it from her or other people How does a woman biologically or evolutionarily know if a man is high status?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:59 PM
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Because I want men to have fair treatment in society. According to your logic it should be worse to have a height preference than a body count preference because you can’t change your height, but you can change your body count. Accordingly it’s immoral to discriminate against people who have features they can’t control. Again this is how your logic is easy to twist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:58 PM
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So nothing unnatural exists because if it’s happened it’s natural according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:55 PM
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If a woman marries a tall rich man, but stays quiet about her preferences, she won’t catch any flack. However if she’s vocal about her preferences, she will catch some flack. Same here for men. If men just fuck young attractive women but stay quiet about their preferences, they won’t catch much flack. This is what Leo is doing. But if they do it while stating preferences, they will get grilled up the flagpole
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:54 PM
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What’s natural to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:52 PM
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The solution is to have a less gynocentric society. Neutralize the simps, white knights, gynocentrists, and radical feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:51 PM
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Most people don’t complain about women’s standards, it’s just a small fraction of society like manosphere. Most people think women’s standards are acceptable Ok women have preferences outside of looks and height that are seen as acceptable like wanting a man who makes more money, is higher status, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:49 PM
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The overwhelming majority do. You are just trying to keep this vague
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:45 PM
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Guys have made it clear what they want sure, but the topic is acceptance. What women want is more acceptable by wider society. How did I communicate this information rudely? I do not see evidence in scale of men wanting all unattractive to not exist, I only see a trend men trying to holding women accountable for bad behavior and unfair treatment. Science gives us evidence of what men and women like and their evolutionary bases. Some people are more unnatractive than others, people who don’t like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:45 PM
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Wtf when have you ever heard a man say he wants a 6 figure earning women even though he doesn’t earn 6 figures? Don’t do this mental gymnastics. Men almost never have desire women more successful than them Men are only 5 inches taller than women in America (5’9 and 5’4 respectively). That is the sexual dimorphism. A 5’4 woman who wants a 6’ tall man is not merely sexual dimorphism, because the 5’4 woman is 50th percentile in height for women while 6’ man is 14th percentile in height for men. I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:40 PM
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I didn’t compare the harm, I compared their naturalness. Also adult incestuous relationships don’t even hurt kids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:27 PM
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You are misinterpreting me. Women and men are attracted to different things, so they have double standards in this regard which is fair. What I’m pointing out is that women’s mating preferences are justified with biology and evolution making them acceptable to wider society while men’s mating preferences (also supported by biology and evolution) is not accepted by wider society. This is an unfair double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:26 PM
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No it’s just that if you want to make comparisons they gotta be apples to apples
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:25 PM
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Are they natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:24 PM
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You saying that in public is less controversial than a man saying he wants a young large breasted virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:24 PM
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I agree. Men are more competitive and stronger so there is less of a need. There’s a reason why zebras run in packs while lions hunt alone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:23 PM
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Ok that we might be using the word natural differently
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:22 PM
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No you got it wrong. In the Buss study, it said that Swedish men valued virginity the least compared to all the studied cultures, but they still valued it more than women did. It also says that in every single studied cultures without exception, men carried more about premarital chastity than women. It explicitly says this preference against promiscuous women is due to paternal uncertainty. Paternal uncertainty reduces men’s reproductive success. And for the other source, humans are not exactly …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:21 PM
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So you think women don’t want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:13 PM
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Women do have high standards but they’re well accepted by society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:12 PM
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A 5’4 woman preferring a 6’ man is literally an average height woman (50th percentile) wanting a tall man (14th percentile).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:06 PM
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I make 6 figures and I married a man who makes much less than me. So? Exceptions don’t prove the rule. I’m tired of women arguing like this <image> Yes some women are vapid and terrible and hypocrites just like men. Do you mean most? Because most women prefer tall men [Women want taller men much more than men want shorter women Women on average were most satisfied with men men who were 8 inches taller. Men were most satisfied when the woman was only 3 inches shorter. https://www.sciencedirect.co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:53 PM
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Incest and pedophilia existed since Rome? You think they’re natural too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:50 PM
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Nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:49 PM
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So guilt by association?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:49 PM
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There are more examples than height. Women tend to want 6 figure earning men even though they don’t earn 6 figures. Women tend to want high status men even though they’re not high status. Women tend to want confidenct men even when they’re insecure. We can go all day here with women’s hypocritical prefernces
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:47 PM
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He’s not making his preferences known like these women online like Lisa Bilyeu
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:45 PM
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My guy, you can bleat about women saying contradicting things till the cows come home. if you want chaste women, DO NOT FUCK AROUND! You can’t demand something when you do the one thing that guarantees you won’t get what you want. That is madness. Are you trolling? Women’s mating preferences are full of demands that they don’t live up to themselves. Many want tall men, even though they’re not tall. Many want 6 figure earning men even though they don’t earn 6 figures. Many want high status men ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:44 PM
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So most women are weirdos than? Because the average height woman (5’4) prefers a tall man (6’) “Women on average were most satisfied with men men who were 8 inches taller. Men were most satisfied when the woman was only 3 inches shorter.” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:40 PM
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A man being attracted to another man isn’t natural either. Do you think incest and pedophilia are natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:38 PM
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Yes because you’re on a male majority sub. I am saying in general, as in society wide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:37 PM
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Yes I agree we are not slaves to our biology but this is besides the point. Right now in society, women’s innate preferences are seen as more acceptable than men’s’, this is a double standard and it’s unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:37 PM
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So what, he’s entitled to his preference just like women are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:31 PM
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Idgaf about being accepted by others, I live my life how I want. What I am pointing out here is that there is a double standard in society where women’s preferences largely are accepted while men’s are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:30 PM
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Women’s innate preferences are more accepted than men’s innate preferences. Thats the double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:29 PM
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Dude idgaf what people think about me personally. I’m just pointing out this society wide bias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:27 PM
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That’s my point. Women’s preferences are more accepted than men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:26 PM
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No I don’t give a fuck in my personal life either. My point in this post is society wide most people have this unfair bias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:25 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:23 PM
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I think the root problem is how accurate are those "biological studies" or were they just confirmation bias. Because the first generation of women truly able to make the choice of having children: are increasingly choosing to not have them to a point economists are panicking. Kinda weird right? The studies on what? The overwhelming majority of women are still having children, this is not a good argument But you get to decide what a deviant preference is? No I don’t decide what is deviant, statis…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:23 PM
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Lmao I agree that’s the textbook definition but it doesn’t get used the same way in dating. When women say they prefer tall men or rich men, do you think they’ll be willing to be with a 5’6 pizza delivery driver?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:42 PM
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Right but he never stated his preference. He is very quiet about that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:41 PM
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is he also a virgin? If you don’t hold yourself to the same standards you hold others too, people won’t respect your preferences So I shouldn’t respect women’s preferences for tall men if they’re not tall? So I shouldn’t respect women’s preferences for high status men if they’re not high status? So I shouldn’t respect women’s preferences for confident assertive men if they’re weak and insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:40 PM
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Is it weird when women want a guy who’s tall even though she’s not tall? Is it weird when a woman wants a guy who’s earns 6 figures even though she’s doesn’t earn 6 figures? Is it weird when women want strong confident men when she’s weak and insecure? This is exactly what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:37 PM
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That’s just as asinine as a woman saying she only wants wealthy men over 6’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:36 PM
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I said seen as valid (by society)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:35 PM
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You have excellent points, and you were interesting to read. Thank you ‘Men don’t want promiscuous women, because of paternity doubts’. This is likely very true. However! It’s just as true to say, women don’t want promiscuous players, because they won’t stick around to help raise their offspring. This is true but you are missing the forest from the trees. Men’s preference against promiscuous women is MUCH stronger than women’s preference against promiscuous men. I’m sure most women would more pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:34 PM
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The hypocrisy is what makes people mad. Like the hypocrisy Lisa Bilyeu and so many other short women have for height preferences for tall men? Women’s preferences are full of hypocrisy. Many want 6 figure earning money even though they don’t earn 6 figures. Many want high status men even though they’re low status. Many want confident men even though they’re insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:23 PM
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All preferences are valid. Great. Problem is society doesnt see it that way, especially for mens, which is the point of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:21 PM
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Ok cool but that’s not the point of this topic. The point is men’s innate mating preferences are seen as less valid than women’s’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:20 PM
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I agree, men are less pack oriented than women because men are stronger so they can afford to be lone wolves while women are weaker so they benefit from being in a pack. However there are tons of white knights who will attack men for their innate preferences too. Much more than women will attack other women for women’s innate preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:03 PM
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First of all, he never outright said he prefers young attractive women. Secondly, he does have a negative reputation amongst most women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:57 PM
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Agreed lol. I find it ironic how women politically are more pro LGBTQ people than men but as far as mate preferences goes women are FAR more discriminatory against LGBTQ people then men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:56 PM
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I don’t think men can state preferences that will be acceptable if they’re just “not be an ass about it”. If a celebrity man says he only likes young women with no experience, how do you think that will be received?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:54 PM
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I didn’t say people didn’t know. I just said there is a double standard of the societal acceptability of men’s vs women’s preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:52 PM
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I agree, that’s my approach. I just brought the topic in terms of how societies views this up for debate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:51 PM
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No lmao. A lot of people do care. A man who says he wants a a virgin will get ran up the flagpole for being sexist, misogynistic, predatory, immature, and has a small penis
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:50 PM
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First of all, he never outright said he prefers young attractive women. Secondly, he does have a negative reputation amongst most women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:46 PM
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That’s not a natural preference. People tend to attack unnatural/deviant preferences. The topic of this post is that society sees women’s natural evolved mating preferences as acceptable, but not mens’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:45 PM
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Sure women get some criticism for their preferences, but men get MORE. If a celebrity man publicly says he wants a young attractive low n count woman, he will get CRUCIFIED. If a celebrity woman (like her) says she wants a wealthy man who is 6 ft tall, there is some criticism but not even close to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:41 PM
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Sure women get some criticism for their preferences, but men get MORE. If a celebrity man publicly says he wants a young attractive low n count woman, he will get CRUCIFIED. If a celebrity woman (like her) says she wants a wealthy man who is 6 ft tall, there is some criticism but not even close to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:41 PM
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There are a bunch of preferences that don’t relate to behavior. Like if a woman wants a man who is 6 ft tall, being 6 ft tall is not a behavior, it’s literally a preference. Linebackers are usually overweight, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:35 PM
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There is a difference between short and long term mating strategies. For short term mating, yes men tend to like sluts because they’re easy and sexually experienced. If you are trying to fill up a party, you want a ton of sluts, not virtuous church girls. For long term mating, men tend to not want sluts because subconsciously, investing in offspring of a promiscuous women invokes male paternal uncertainty. Most men would not marry a sex worker who’s been with lots of men in the past. The sources…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:31 PM
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Easy. Female hypergamy aka sexual selection to filter for the fittest male genetics to pass on so the species survive. Basically biology
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:59 PM
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The word “need” depends on the objective, it doesn’t automatically mean need for survival. If I say you need wheels to drive a car, that need has nothing to do with survival. In this context to have sexual intimacy, which is apart of the Maslow heirarchy of needs, you need to have a mate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:58 PM
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No because literally most feminists want men with traditional gender norms when choosing a man like the man being bigger, stronger, higher earning, higher status, etc. They want men, not women, to pay alimony, conscript in war, pay for the dates, etcHell just look at 50 shades of grey, women, including feminists, were gobbling that up even though most of the book went against egalitarianism values
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:57 PM
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Would you go on a date with a woman who looks like Woopi Goldberg if you guys had chemistry like no other girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:01 PM
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Because “chemistry” and compatibility is contingent on baseline attractiveness. Most guys are not this illogical. Men know that they would not want to be with a woman who look like Woopi Goldberg even if they had the most chemistry and compatibility out of all girls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:35 PM
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Lol you don’t get it. Those men who get laid while being honest are not getting laid because they’re honest, they’re getting laid because they’re attractive. Unnattractive men (which is most men due to female hypergamy) won’t get laid as much if they’re honest, that’s why they tend to deceive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:37 PM
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Because most women are looking for relationships. And the few times women are looking for casual sex, they are extremely selective only going for men who are above them in attractiveness so the average to below average man feels like his best shot at getting casual sex is to act like he wants a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:32 PM
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The problem is many times the woman will only be with a man for to purposes of a long term relationship. What some call the “beta bucks”, women won’t even be with them to begin with for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:52 PM
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No it doesn’t. Because denigrating someone has nothing to do with wanting to fuck them. It would be hypocritical to say you don’t wanna fuck but then you go ahead and fuck, because they are both the same topic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:19 PM
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<image> Did you even actually read the graph? Average height in America is 5’9 (which is taller than like 90% of women), yet that was only acceptable to about ~20% women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:18 PM
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Doesn’t matter. You can denigrate a woman and want to have sex with her at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:16 PM
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Ok but all that is contingent on baseline attractiveness (such as height)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:12 PM
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Men (generally) aren’t the ones saying that it’s all about chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:09 PM
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How can I find these “female hoes”? (Just so I know where not to look)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:59 PM
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That’s not hypocritical though. You can critique women while also wanting to fuck em
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:59 PM
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It contradicts what you said earlier about it being about chemistry. If women only have chemistry with attractive guys, then it’s not about chemistry, it’s about attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:58 PM
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Fuckboys by definition do not want relationships. If you are describing men who want relationships as fuckboys, you are using the word fuckboys incorrectly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:51 PM
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Well said. You write like those original contributors on the red pill sub. What I find interesting is all these anti red pill women using nothing but red pill terminology. They believe in it while trying to distance themselves. This “vetting system” is a joke. In real life, the way women vet men is #1 by their attractiveness and #2 willingness to commit. That simple. The reason why this usually doesn’t work is because the men who they’re attracted to usually don’t commit because they have too ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:48 PM
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Women: It’s about chemistry and mutual like! Also women: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:38 PM
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They’re not mutually exclusive. You can complain about women’s mating behavior while leveling up and fucking a bunch of them. This is what Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines does
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:36 PM
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This doesn’t matter to fuckboys. They (like most men) are just trying to get laid, so if they are successfully getting laid they don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:35 PM
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Simply to bring awareness to everyone. Women will accuse men of being players, cheaters, and non comittal. But really the 80/20 rule shows that most men are not players and cheaters and commitment phobic, rather they are invisible and 80% of women just chase the top 20% of men so those minority of men are players and cheaters and non commital because they are given so much choice by hypergamous women. Of course this doesn’t apply to everyone but this is the trend <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:34 PM
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Exactly. Women will say “I had sex with that guy on the first date but I’m making you wait because I like you more” or “I used to have threesomes with men I didn’t really like but now I won’t do threesomes with you because I like you more”. No awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:28 PM
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Which is what most men anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:27 PM
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If a girl wants sex on the first date, is she a fuck girl? If a girl says she isn’t sure she wants a relationship, is she a fuck girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:26 PM
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A church is not even meant to be a social mixer, it’s primarily supposed to be for worship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:09 PM
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I’m not necessarily arguing against that. I’m just arguing that men and women have desires, but most settle because they can’t obtain what they really desire
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:49 PM
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Same thing applies to women. Most women not appealing enough to get tall, handsome, rich, high status men. The most popular romance book ever was 50 shades of grey, Christian Grey was over 6 ft tall, a billionaire, successful, and handsome. Most women cannot attain even a similar man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:45 PM
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Nice guys get rejected like mad they are probably invisible to you so you don’t notice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:01 PM
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High value men tend to have low investment sex with attractive women. That is a good representation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:26 PM
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Did you even read the article? It said the computer coding had a lot of women in the start only because this was during ww2 when men were mostly overseas and women were called to work in industries. Obviously during wartime is an exceptional time period where gender norms may bend just for sheer survival. Gaming in total is not even close to 50/50. There are few games where women come close to being 50% of gamers, but those are usually child like and not violent games. Still most gamers are male…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:24 PM
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When tf was computer programming and gaming female majority? It has always been male majority
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:23 PM
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The average woman is MORE opposed to being with the average man than the average man to the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:16 PM
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Are you trolling? Most women rate most men (80%) as unattractive <image> https://web.archive.org/web/20120723173702/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ “ Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Women are way more selective than men. The average woman doesn’t want the average man. But men do want the average woman. The average woman wants an above average man. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:14 PM
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Most men don’t like surgically enhanced women. And you might have a different taste but on average men are drawn more to the fertility cues that a 20 year old has (even if she’s a bit overweight) than a 40 year old naturally has lost to an extent. That’s why there are a significantly lot more 20 year old porn stars than 40 year old porn stars
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:02 PM
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No point at all! Carry on. You are trying to make a point while ignoring the counterpoint. Your basically arguing while closing your ears
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:19 PM
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Hypergamy is about innate drive ie preference. Women are driven to by hypergamous, but they can’t always realize hypergamous relationships because they are limited by their own attractiveness Dating app statistics support female hypergamy because it can be seen that most of the women are swiping on a minority of the men who are the most desirable. Meanwhile men comparatively swipe on a larger array of women of more varying attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:14 PM
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You’re proving that Shannon sharpe is really a victim , not a predator
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:01 PM
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This coming from the guy who says all men only want harems of young fresh meat? lol. You and every other man only want to bang 100’s of women, the younger the better. Ok but I also said that even though most men want this, they realistically cannot get it. Women want tall, handsome, rich, high status men but clearly most can’t attain such (for long term relationship) so they settle for a man who’s closer to average What’s the point of marrying at all? You think any woman wants to marry some guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:58 PM
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The evidence for him committing rape is not strong. It’s mostly testimony from exes. But the second part you called him a pedophile, you’re going to have to substantiate this. There has been no allegations he had sex with underage girls
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:37 PM
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The average 20 year old is not much overweight. People usually gain weight as they get older. Are you a man or a woman. I suspect you are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:35 PM
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It’s not rage bait. Ending the life of a live human is by many definitions murder
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:34 PM
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You are conflating different things. Yes most people are average and end up with average people. But women are way more selective and have a drive to want to be with a more attractive man than themselves (hypergamy). The dating app data proves this, “Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104. The average man is much more open to being with an average woman than an average woman wanting to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:03 AM
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Deal. I’m not defending male hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:31 AM
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Proof of pro life laws causing substantially more abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:30 AM
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Murdering humans is line that should be drawn before free government entitlements, agreed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:16 AM
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No because he will spend close to life in prison, I’d rather go through a pregnancy than
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:37 PM
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I didn’t say they were equal, but men do pay the price (literally) for creating a child. It’s not our fault that biologically the woman is the one who bears the offspring. We literally send men to jail who don’t pay child support, you are not living in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:36 PM
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Murdering humans is line that should be drawn before free healthcare, agreed? Also those things you mentioned (clothes, healthcare, food, shelter) are all things that for 99% of human history has not been provided by a government. All of Africa doesn’t have free any of those things but they are still surviving. Sure there lifespans are a bit lower on average, but again the right to life is more important than the right to an easy high quality life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:34 PM
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You were just yapping about brain development blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:08 PM
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Obviously there is prioritizies to how much you want to protect people. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Drawing the line at not killing humans is a good start. Free health care blah blah blah is less of a priority
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:07 PM
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Ok feminist. You win. We men will stop being attracted to young, fertile, attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:59 PM
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Most people would rather go to bed hungry than be killed without consent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:58 PM
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Of course a feminist woman is accusing a man of rape with no credible evidence and being a pedophile with no accessions of him having sex with underage girls
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:56 PM
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Men are already punished with excessive child support
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:55 PM
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What you are doing is a crime. I’m reporting you to law enforcement. Once again, two wrongs don’t make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:55 PM
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Dude, guys don’t wants a promiscuous woman for long term mating. Men want their wives to be pure but freaky only for him. “Freak in sheets, lady in the streets” is literally what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:53 PM
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Red pill is not anti-monogamy. Red pill is just pro facts regarding human mating. Some red pillers choose relationships while others choose to life like a bachelor. Andrew Tate has multiple wives. Myron Gaines has a girlfriend. See?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:51 PM
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Because that same man will get less attractive as he gets old, bald, weak, slow, and less mentally sharp. She will probably find him less attractive too. So they will decline together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:50 PM
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That’s not the fault of the law, it’s the fault of the enforcement of the law
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:46 PM
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Yeah I’m not defending them on that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:23 PM
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Men’s attraction has nothing to do with women’s (alleged) brain development
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:22 PM
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Just like how people get murdered even though murder is against the law
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:12 PM
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There’s no credible evidence he committed rape and he hasn’t even been accusing of having sex with underage girls
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:05 PM
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I agree that monogamy is man made (but women wanted it as well for their own security and parental investment). But just because something is man made doesn’t mean it’s bad. A car is manmade but nobody thinks we should get rid of cars. Monogamy takes work (on both ends) because it’s unnatural but is overall good for society and productivity so men don’t constantly have to figure out how to get laid, which is what the other animals in nature do when they are not looking for food and running from …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:46 PM
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No it’s just that in matriarchal countries women spend half of their reproductive lifespans in schools and riding the cock caurocel. In undeveloped countries women get married shortly after puberty and have no birth control so they are constantly getting impregnated
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:44 PM
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Women should find a husband as young as they legally can and have kids and grow old with that same man. Just like the good old days. Being a sex worker is not good for women or society, finding a beta providers for the sake of security is not fulfilling either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:43 PM
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Sure, it’s women’s innate biology. When women mates value surpass the man’s, they have a tendency to want to monkey branch because they feel like they can do better hypergamy wise. For example, women are a lot more likely to divorce their husbands after receiving a big raise or promotion. Women are also twice as likely to divorce a man after winning a political election or being promoted to CEO. (https://www.businessinsider.com/research-shows-women-more-likely-get-divorced-after-promotion-2020).…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:37 PM
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Women make fun of men for being low status, having low resources. Women make songs like “bills bills bills”, “no scrubs”, “no romance without finance”. Women make fun of short men. Men don’t have it easy either, women aren’t any less brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:35 PM
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Because women have a very strong biological drive to reproduce (hence why the overwhelming majority of women have kids by menopause even though they say men ain’t shit)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:32 PM
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Because women brought those alive humans into the world by their own volition (99% of the time)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:30 PM
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It’s not old men affected by male loneliness crisis, it’s primarily the young men, because of young women’s hypergamy and choosiness selecting men with higher status, wealth, etc which takes time for men to accumulate. Don’t lie, most older women are not happy about older men dating much younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:28 PM
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It’s a win for her but a loss for human rights. Also she didn’t win $50M, she sued for $50M but they settled confidentiality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:22 PM
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He is high value. Men will fuck almost anything fertile. 99% of men will fuck that girl (if they could with low investment). A mid 20 year old is more attractive than a attractive 40 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:20 PM
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Name one society out of all the examples I gave the reverse is true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:19 PM
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Sometimes laws don’t work as written. Look at emit till and oj Simpson. Exceptions don’t break the general rule
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:16 PM
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The graphic is an illustration, it may be a bit off but that’s the overal market trend. Women are hypergamous (seeking to mate up) and way more selective than men I’m interested in variety. I’d rather have sex with 100 different attractive women than the same average woman 200 times
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:38 PM
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Medically necessary abortions is protected by the federal constitution Two wrongs don’t make a right so idc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:36 PM
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Its just an illustration, but I get what you meab
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:36 PM
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Most women are still having sex. Why? I didn’t say casual sex, I just said sex in general. Sex is a biological thing that basically all sexually mature animals are driven to want. Obviously most women would prefer sex from a committed mab
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:35 PM
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Like women are known for accusing men for money. Give men a break
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:32 PM
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When they are ovulating, yes I do. Women might not gloat it but they are just as likely to do it as a man who is given easy sex from a woman outside of his relationship That chart supports my point, more sexless men than women. So women want sex more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:12 PM
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No I lost my virginity and have more sexual success women now than I could’ve dreamed of 5 years ago Being an alpha male has nothing to do with relationship status. Simply put, alpha males are the dominant men at the top who control the most share of power, resources, and female sexual access. Some alpha males are in relationships (many have side pieces), others are single banging chicks left and right. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:10 PM
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Murdering other humans is not a human right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:05 PM
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Ok Einstein
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:05 PM
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Men who have sex with consenting adults are not predators, you are MAD calling him names unjustifiably. If anything she is the predator who extorted him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:04 PM
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Last I checked women want to have sex too 😂 most adult women aren’t virgins. The incentive is simple biology. If yall don’t want relationships and marriages so bad, why do most of yall keep hammering us for them? By that logic, why should we men accept relationships from yall if yall would rather be with a man who is richer, higher status, taller, higher mate value, etc if you could attract such man for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:02 PM
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Redpillers want to hate women, use them, and discard them. I’m a redpiller and I don’t want to hate, use, or discard women. It sucks for them that this will never work. It worked for me. The reason why it worked is because I took advice from men who are successful in getting women (like Andrew Tate) rather than women (who usually just say to be more emotionally vulnerable and a nice guy, even though they usually give their bodies to men who are the total opposite)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:58 PM
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Last I checked it’s women who want relationships and married more than men. I’ve never heard a man put an ultimatum on a woman, it’s always the reverse Men want variety, but are still willing to be in a committed relationship with one. It’s due to biology, nothing personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:51 PM
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To goal of red pillers is to get more access to women (which he is successful in). I just disproved your silly comment now all you have is strawmans
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:49 PM
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You are construing red pill and the red pill community. The red pill community has some men who are bitter and extremists. However the red pill fundamentals are still true, it’s mostly based on biology and evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:23 PM
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Men are more willing to date down in attractiveness than women (because women are hypergamous). I’m not doubting a 5’4 can get laid easily, but they are probably with below average looking women (unless he has a lot of money or status)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:18 PM
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Is Andrew Tate (the guy who fucks Instagram models and high status women) an incel too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:16 PM
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How is it shallow to want sex? Women want sex too. The difference is it’s harder for men to get than women. Sex is literally on the Maslow hierarchy of needs so it is a need to live a satisfactory life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:15 PM
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Yes and another thing is what is the quality of women that these 5’4 guys are banging left and right? Generally, the most desirable women want the desirable men, it’s unlikely to be a 5’4 man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:14 PM
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So many women love reading Yes but they read different things. Men typically read non fiction, women typically read fiction) also have similar political interests too what a odd observation. Again, men are usually right wing, women are usually left wing. And men usually care about economics/military/immigration while women usually care about social causes like women’s rights, gay rights, free healthcare, environment, etc gender is generally mostly sociological and learnt. No. Gender is innate be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:10 PM
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Simple evolution/biology, it’s men’s innate reproductive strategy to spread their seed as wide as possible to maximize their reproductive success
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:00 PM
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Why should men establish a long term monagmous relationship with women who are innately hypergamous and only are with men for their money, status, height, and how they make them feel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:54 PM
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Doesn’t matter to men and their attraction both are relatively young and fertile
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:51 PM
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Lmao women get really mad when men consensually date young women 😂😂😂 cope and seethe woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:50 PM
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Shannon Sharpe is a HVM. He is representative of HVM but not most of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:49 PM
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This is just rage bait trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:48 PM
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Women do choose average guys. This is what I’m disputing. Do you think most women would like a man who’s 5’9 forklift operator making $55k/yr?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:46 PM
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Abortion is murder. This has nothing to do with punishing women. It has to do with punishing murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:43 PM
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Abortion is murder, this is different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:42 PM
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People who want to “eliminate reproductive choice” want to do so because they think abortion is murder. Not because they are trying to get back at women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:40 PM
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Not really, why would they care if they just wanna be with the most desirable men at the top? <image> Would you care if a bunch of 300 lb women went their own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:39 PM
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These are bad analogies As men, we want a girl who's gentle and nurturing, but we also want her to be fiercely loyal and protective They are not mutually exclusive We want her to be competent and reliable at day to day tasks, but we also want her to be a damsel in distress who needs our help. No man has said he wants an idiot incapable of every day tasks We want her to be demure and dignified and pure, but we also want her to go bug mode on us in bed. We want here to be sexually pure, and then a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:37 PM
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If a woman ignores a bunch of nice guys (which I’m sure they’ve done) just to be with a bad boy, that says a lot about her and it’s unlikely she’s good relationship material
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:30 PM
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You think Andrew Tate, the guy who fucks high status women and Instagram models, is sexually unsuccessful?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:28 PM
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Women want a fun, funny, exciting, outgoing man more than men want fun, funny, exciting, outgoing women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:27 PM
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Women don’t want average guys as much as the average man wants the average woman. Thats why on tinder men right swipe on 55% of women while women on right swipe on 5% of men <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:23 PM
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Women have a trend of saying they want sensitive, emotionally vulnerable nice guys but then end up giving their bodies to men who are emotionally unavailable, nonchalant men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:17 PM
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And the same goes for women. Women also choose partners who match what they say. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:15 PM
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Humans are confident Men are usually more confident and women generally want men more confident than them Humans are risk takers (certainly not all humans). Men are more risk takers (on average) Humans marry within their socioeconomic brackets and outside of them. Women generally want to marry across and up socioeconomically. Men don’t really care as much so as a result they tend to marry across and down
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:12 PM
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Women take dating advice from The View and The Steve Harvey Show. Not any better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:11 PM
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Men should take dating advice from men who are the most successful with women. Thats what pill content is based on and it’s the most logical approach. The girls red pill content creators features are there just to prove red pill talking points (like female hypergamy), not to take their advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:10 PM
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It does change things. But men with the least experiences think they are the experts on women. How do you not agree with what you implicitly said? If men with the most experience with women are the biggest experts, men should be taking advice from them right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:06 PM
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What a good partner is is universal more or less
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:03 PM
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Obviously we have to generalize here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:50 PM
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I agree women aren’t totally monagmous in nature, but the difference is that women usually want mate with one guy at a time while the men usually want to mate with multiple at one time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:10 AM
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<image> Here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:27 PM
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I literally said the graph is exaggerated. The purpose was to illustrate the overall trend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:22 PM
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Ah, you got me! Sike. You are “pink pill”, so you guys agree with most red pill fundamentals. Also many non red pill social scientists are also echoing the same thing. Some dub it as the “high heel effect” or put it in different words, but the bottom line is that there is not enough desirable enough men for every woman who wants one, which is causing the men at the top to have disproportionately high access to women, many women not finding a monogamous mate due to excessive hypergamy, and a larg…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:19 PM
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In adulthood, male brains are, on average, 10% to 15% larger than female brains (Ruigrok et al., 2014)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:26 PM
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I think many men resent that most women do not appreciate a cold approach and prefer a warm/ friendly approach where they get to know the guy a bit before being asked out. What is seems like is that women resent that most men prefer to cold approach a bunch of women over joining social groups and trying to take it slow with a limited amount of women because women want to feel special and not like they’re one girl out of 50 that the man approached
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:27 AM
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wtf is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:49 AM
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Why would women want to be romantically approached at a church 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:45 AM
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Why is heightism banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:44 AM
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Most women are too blue pilled to even understand. They think men are hardwired to be monogamous and not want to spread their genes with other fertile females (even though we see basically every male animal behave this way) I’m not trying to justify anything. You are trying to attach morality to nature. Nature/biology doesn’t care how you feel about these things. If you don’t like men so much then just stay single, never have kids, but that goes against you’re reproductive hardwiring so idk what…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:41 AM
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Men are hardwired to “fantasize” about cheating because men’s innate reproductive strategy is to pass on their genetics as far as possible. This is biology, just about all male animals are like this. So if a man is choosing not to cheat that should be respectable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:22 AM
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It changes everything. If men have no other sexual access they will stay loyal and committed to the one girl they have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:39 PM
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Most men like to keep one steady girl for secure sexual access. Drake probably has a main chick at home
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:37 PM
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Not necessarily. A lot of boyfriends are still interested in other girls, waiting for something better, some even cheat. If they’re so committed they’d marry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:58 PM
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The stereotype is based on reality. Women’s are evolved to nurture children, that’s why they’re more emotional, to tend to the offsprings needs. Women’s brains are literally smaller in size and wired differently. Asking for a study to prove that women are hardwired to be more emotional is like asking for a study that men are more violent. It’s so obvious that it’s not worth debating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:28 PM
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Sure but even genuine nice guys who care about women and their feelings still don’t do as well as emotionally unavailable assholes (on average). When you think of players, you don’t think of caring, thoughtful, nice guys. You think of emotionally unavailable guys who don’t really care about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:35 PM
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You seriously need a source to tell you that women are more emotional than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:34 PM
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I’m not even trying to be like that but it’s just the fact of the matter. Just facts and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:27 PM
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No you just misinterpreted me. Can you answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:25 PM
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I was exaggerating but you get the point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:24 PM
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When I said weaker I didn’t even mean physically weaker. I meant mentally. Typically women want men who are more confident, more assertive, less emotional (for example they don’t cry as often as the woman), etc. Since you until nitpicked me on that one thing, do you cede that the rest are true?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:18 PM
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This includes “the boyfriends”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:15 PM
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Men and women have different innate reproductive goals. What you are describing is analogous to the many women who are dating to marry, putting 3 month rules, etc, but in contrast men don’t do that they usually like to take things naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:05 PM
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Well I think that’s an important point because basically everyone will settle down or do xyz if the offer is good enough. If Chris brown proposed to the average 18 year old girl who is in her party phase most would settle down. And the reverse, most women who are looking for husbands will have casual sex if the guy is a sexy celebrity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:59 PM
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I'm talking about preferences. Hinge is actually much better than tinder for determining preferences. On tinder a man can just open it every day, swipe right 100 times, then filter out matches on the back end. That strategy tells us nothing about his preferences. It says a lot about men’s preferences. It says that most men are attracted to most women. And that most women are not attracted to most women. Hinge forces users to save their likes for the options they actually prefer. If a guy opens h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:54 PM
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Link? That's certainly not the case on Hinge, based on the data I linked to. A woman in the top 1% receives over 70 likes for every one like received by a woman in the bottom 50%. You can do the math on that table to find that men like a maximum of 8.9% of women on average on Hinge. “Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Hinge is not applicable here because on Hinge you can only like 8 …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:06 PM
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Link? That's certainly not the case on Hinge, based on the data I linked to. A woman in the top 1% receives over 70 likes for every one like received by a woman in the bottom 50%. You can do the math on that table to find that men like a maximum of 8.9% of women on average on Hinge. “Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Hinge is not applicable here because on Hinge you can only like 8 …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:06 PM
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Depends. But this is besides the point. Men are hardwired to find the most fertile women the most attractive. Most men find 22 year olds more attractive than 32 year olds (https://np.reddit.com/r/OkCupid/s/h8y8PjxULt)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:49 PM
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The new guy may not wife her. She may try to monkeybranch but fall
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:46 PM
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An average woman getting with a millionaire (who is abuses women) is NOT settling. She’s negotiating for the highest male value man she can attract. Like I said everybody has flaws, some more serious than others, but that factors into their mate value. According to the marketplace, a billionaire who cheats has higher mate value than a minimum wage worker who is loyal. Settling = picking a mate lower in mate value than you can attract
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:44 PM
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Exactly that’s what I’m saying. Women generally don’t settle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:34 PM
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Yes I know everybody has preferences for attractive mates but the defining difference here between men and women is that women have much more selective and have more rigid preferences than men. The average woman doesn’t want the average man. But men do want the average woman. The average woman wants an above average man. That’s why men swipe right on 55% of women while women only right swipe on 5% of men. If you ask women, would you like a man who is 5’9 and makes $55k/yr (which is the average m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:34 PM
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Settling depends on the objective, I think we agree on this. If a woman wants a rich high status man and gets that, but he’s also an abuser, that’s not settling because the objective was to get the richest highest status man she can attract. If being with someone who has simply has a flaw is settling, then everybody settles because nobody is perfect. A woman might meet a nice rich guy but he’s short. Or a reliable guy who will be a good dad but he has a small penis. This goes into womens unreali…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:48 PM
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That’s not settling because you know that risk is not worth taking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:43 PM
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That’s not settling, not my fault they’re using the word incorrectly. If you only have $2k to buy a car, so you choose to buy an old beater for $2k, that’s not settling. That’s market value
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:42 PM
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Most women don’t respond well to emotionally vulnerable nice guys, even the ones who say they want one. The “other” women who do are a minority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:41 PM
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It’s a commonality. The dynamic where on one hand women say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys but on the other hand in real life they respond to emotionally unavailable stoic men is definitely a commonality that is so popular there are many blogs written to help women with this problem https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-high-functioning-hotspot/202102/why-you-dont-feel-chemistry-with-nice-guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:40 PM
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Sure women are individuals but still there are commonalities that exist. And the pattern where on one hand women say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys but on the other hand in real life they respond to emotionally unavailable stoic men is definitely a commonality that is so popular there are many blogs written to help women with this problem https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-high-functioning-hotspot/202102/why-you-dont-feel-chemistry-with-nice-guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:38 PM
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Good critism of women = incel take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:37 PM
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Women want bigger, taller men because they want to feel smaller and weaker. It’s comparable to age because the younger person in an age gap is also in a weaker, more vulnerable position. It’s also comparable to wealth gap, women want to be the lesser earning partner, so that puts them in the weaker more vulnerable position financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:36 PM
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Men want sluts for short term mating but chaste women for long term mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:34 PM
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Women aren’t a total monolith but there are commonalities that exist. And the dynamic where on one hand women say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys but on the other hand in real life they respond to emotionally unavailable stoic men is definitely a commonality that is so popular there are many blogs written to help women with this problem https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-high-functioning-hotspot/202102/why-you-dont-feel-chemistry-with-nice-guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:31 PM
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Always the best comments getting downvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:29 PM
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Yes as the blog post exists because this is a common problem many women face. They say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys because they are better for relationships but in real life they respond to stoic. emotionally unavailable men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:27 PM
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Have you ever considered there are commonalities among women so OP is generalizing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:25 PM
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It’s not reasonable to disagree though. If women want to be smaller, weaker, less earning, lower status, etc than a man, the only reasonable conclusion is that women want to be inferior to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:20 PM
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There’s no rebuttal really. Women do have a massive trend of saying they want one set of attributes in a man but then respond sexually to a different set of attributes. And that’s in part due to women’s emotional nature and not being as logical as men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:18 PM
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We are strangers so we don’t know the same women so this is not a good question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:13 PM
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The meaning of settling is to not choose your best option, it’s to compromise and choose a less desirable option. You are misusing the word settling. What you are saying is that if a woman gets into a relationship with Chris brown (knowing he is an abuser) or Andrew Tate (knowing he is an abuser), that she’s settling because they are abusers. I’m telling you that’s not settling because women who choose Chris brown and Andrew Tate, chances are those are the most attractive men they can get with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:10 PM
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Ok I see the misunderstanding. If you pick the best option you have, that’s not settling. So the first comment I used the work correctly. But the next comment I said women were settling for the best beta providers, technically that’s not settling if they re looking for beta providers. I used the word setting in relation to how sexually attracted they are to the beta
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:06 PM
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You seriously think women pass up on more attractive guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:51 PM
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Yes, they settle for the highest earning beta they can attract (when they are looking for a husband, but when they are young and peak attractiveness they are usually not looking for a beta)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:50 PM
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Yes I do. Many people are saying women are still finding themselves in their 20s, and while that may be true, that’s doesn’t matter to men assessing their attractiveness. As women get older, sure they will be more sure of themselves but at the same time men will find older women less attractive than younger women. And as women get older their standards for things like money and status increase because their money and status are increasing. This is a bad combination, increasingly demanding a high…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:48 PM
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Men usually dgaf about women being educated when they are assessing how attractive she is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:44 PM
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<image> The reason why those men didn’t want to commit is because those men are high demand men at the top who are the least incentivized to commit because they have the most options. Mathematically, there is not enough men at the top for every woman who wants one so mathematically most women are not going to be able to have a long term relationship with who they want. (I know this graph exagerates a bit but this is still the overall trend)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:43 PM
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TLDR: I think the majority of women would “settle down” in her 20s if the man she wanted to settle down with wanted to 1) settle down and/or 2) settle down with her. I agree but the problem is that the men that women in their 20’s want are guys who are usually high demand men at the top who have more women competing for them than the quantity of these men. Mathmateically amost of those women on the left cannot get long term relationships because there’s not enough desirable men for every woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:40 PM
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You are under the impression that looks determined all of a man’s attractiveness to women. Looks is important but there is money and status too, (and some personality) which factor if a man is top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:34 PM
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Women generally don’t settle, women are hypergamous and they go after the best man they can attract
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:30 PM
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The advice to not tolerate men treating you badly is BECAUSE most men don't think you're special. Bullshit. The average women can get tons of guys who will treat them like a queen, worship the ground she walks on, and be an all around great guy. The problem is she doesn’t want those guys, women usually want guys above them and naturally a guy who is above a woman is not going to pedestalize her and treat her like she’s special, because to him she’s really not special she is replaceable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:26 PM
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To solve your reproductive problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:15 PM
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Hell yeah. Matter fact I would like that setup even if there was enough sex in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:38 PM
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Most people who actually want to go to Coldplay concerts are women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:37 PM
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😂😂😂 that’s why average men have to lie to be able to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:35 PM
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Sure some are hookers but most are not. (legal) teens so what? That’s like the most popular porn category Mikayla Peterson and Lauren southern are high status women that he’s fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:21 PM
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Right I understand that. But that’s besides the point. The point is that math is used to assess attractiveness. Generally speaking the man with more goats will be seen as more attractive because mathematically women tend to want guys with more resources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:52 PM
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Women using math to determine men’s attractiveness is not a trend. A thousand years ago, a man with 100 goats would’ve probably been seen as more attractive by women than a man with 10 goats. Math is simply how we quantify things that relate to attractiveness, in this case height and resources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:24 PM
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Obviously I did not mean all women. And this is a recent phenomenon of course women 100 years ago weren’t as obsessed with height as much as they are now. You totally missed the point that math matters in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:02 PM
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So treating a woman like shit is more attractive than a guy pretending to be nice? Who do you think gets more pussy, nice guys or assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:01 PM
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Men date down in looks. I’d say hypergamy’s definition should be changed to dating up in survival fitness. Because not only do women generally want to date men of higher financial and social status, but they want men who are bigger, stronger, more confident, more assertive, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:59 PM
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The definition of hypergamy is socioeconomic status. Men did not change the definition of the word at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:57 PM
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This is mostly true but you are omitting the fact that most mens don’t have the sexual market value and the sexual options in order for A and B to actually pan out. Most 50 year old men can’t attract 20 year olds and most men in general can’t have low investment sex outside their relationships. So I would retitle your post “(high value) men are fundamentally unsuitable for long term relationships”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:56 PM
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Not all but most
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:51 PM
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She is trying to infantilize women. She doesn’t want to accept the fact that women can want and like to get physically dominated by her own choice because that undermines her views on feminism and egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:50 PM
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That’s because straight men don’t WANT to be choked and dominated. People who want that are usually straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:48 PM
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Do you disagree with the conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:47 PM
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She’s got a point. Yes there are generalizations but by definition generalizations are usually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:46 PM
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OP is a woman so you can’t call her the usual names (misogynist, incel, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:45 PM
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Blue pill is basically gaslighting to men actually trying to increase their reproductive success. It is based on feel good idealism, most people are not ready for the truth because it’s brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:44 PM
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Jordan peterson’s daughter Yeah sure but why does that matter The point is that Andrew Tate has fucked a bunch of girls, including girls who are high status and not sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:43 PM
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Then why do women filter men who are 6 ft tall? If they don’t care about math they would be okay with a 5 ft tall man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:41 PM
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People are unique but still have commonalities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:19 PM
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Except you’re leaving out the fact many women reject men who are too nice, too available, treat them like queens, etc. It’s no secret that bad boys get more pussy than nice guys, and this is with looks being even
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:07 PM
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Mikayla Peterson is a sex worker? Lauren southern is a sex worker? That Indian Instagram model is a sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:05 PM
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I said these drives are innate to the sexes, I didn’t say each person from each sex actually does it. Big difference. Sometimes people do things that they are not innately hardwired to do, for example people choose to starve themselves (for religious, political, or health purposes) but nobody would argue we are hardwired to want to starve. But what you’ll see is that most of the time it’s true, because the innate drive has a big influence on actual behavior. That’s why you don’t see celebrity wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:20 PM
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Fresh and fit regularly invites college educated women including doctors, lawyers, real estate agents, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:21 PM
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Men are amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:21 PM
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Why should the man pay if they’re both getting the same date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:20 PM
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$200 for a polite thanks? Wow what a bargain for men!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:19 PM
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men they want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:18 PM
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Except for the fact that women travelers are going to be looked over by the men they want because most men don’t want permiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:14 PM
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Women who travel a lot are a red flag to me. That signals promiscuity (flair checks out)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:07 PM
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100% agreed. Who’s paying for these trips? Who is she meeting at these traveling destinations?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:04 PM
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Traveling is BORING. Everything that can be seen traveling can be seen in a YouTube video.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:54 PM
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The constitution is a document of rules. I’m sure you want to live in a society with rules
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:50 PM
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Yeah I think it goes against females’ innate biology. Females are generally driven to sexually select for the best genetics(prioritizing quality) while males are driven to pass on as much as their genetics as they can (quantity)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:42 PM
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Yeah I think it goes against females’ innate biology. Females are generally driven to sexually select for the best genetics(prioritizing quality) while males are driven to pass on as much as their genetics as they can (quantity)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:40 PM
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Most women who have sex outside of relationships don’t sleep with a rotation of men. I don’t think you reflect the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:38 PM
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Yup, typical female behavior from my experience. Generally they can’t separate sex from emotions with a man they’re having sex with for a long period of time. And usually they turn bitter after you don’t act like you want to wive them in 2 months. It is ironic because if you are too interested in her at the beginning, she would have never been attracted to you enough for her to want sex. It is like women are just trying to chase the man’s validation, not the man himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:37 PM
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The question didn’t ask “dating” it asked “talking” to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:24 PM
2

Sorry I can’t understand what you’re trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:24 PM
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Ok well just have to agree to disagree I guess. Even as a man, I can clearly notice (on average) the guys who are 5’4 are not as cocky as guys who are 6’4
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:10 PM
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Ok but do you see why it is a stereotype?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:45 PM
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Right but she still butchered the definition of hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:23 AM
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Sure but that’s what I hear frequently. Do you think this stereotype has any grains of truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:22 AM
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Women constantly sexually selecting assholes even though publicly they claim they want nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:55 AM
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Many women say tall men are usually more cocky and selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:53 AM
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I don’t agree with the first statement but the second statement is definitely true
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:52 AM
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Yeah this was a really dumb post. She must be new to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:51 AM
1

Have you ever read a popular romance/erotica?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:22 PM
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Money is a big part of what makes men attractive, you can’t separate the two. It’s like saying a woman is only attractive because of her body parts. Like, duh. What’s so immoral about a man having sex with young fertile women as he’s biologically hardwired to be driven to be sexually attracted to? Why are men’s innate preferences shunned but women’s innate preferences are respected?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:44 PM
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I can agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:35 PM
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Which of my points am I wrong about? Can you actually counter my arguments, or are they too good to be countered?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:36 PM
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I just gave you half a dozen points but you totally ignored them because you know I’m right. The facts favor my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:57 PM
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Women still want to be weaker ones or the more submissive ones compared to men even given when given the choice. Just look at female mating preferences, generally women prefer more powerful men. women still want a more dominant man. Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:06 PM
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That sounds good to say but that’s not how reality works. Drake, Chris brown, or Leonardo DiCaprio are (collectively by women) regarded as the top 1% most desirable men but no woman knows how clean their room is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:02 PM
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What if he was the most desirable man you were ever able to attract? Would you rather be with a less desirable man who keeps his house clean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:43 PM
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That’s what I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:02 AM
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Most women get weak and submissive for men they are really sexually attracted to. Not every woman has a man they are very sexually attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:02 AM
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Ah, the classic choreplay propaganda. Now tell me again, how many chores do Chad and Tyrone need to do to be able to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:18 AM
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Ok well that reason you’re probably thinking also doesn’t affect his ability to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:17 AM
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My point exactly, it doesn’t really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:26 AM
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There’s a reason why those societies are now extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:42 PM
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If it was cultural there would be some cultures where women were more dominant. The fact that there are none proves it has nothing to do with culture, the only common denominator is our biology so it must be biological
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:14 PM
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I said given the choice, being single was not a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:41 PM
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Women in western countries like to be weaker and more submissive even without being forced
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:40 PM
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He had high mate value, he’s getting laid a lot regardless if he cleans his room
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:39 PM
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Do you agree that women (generally) want more dominant men? Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want higher earning men. Status wise, women tend to want higher status men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:31 PM
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It’s an extreme example to prove a point. But even with everyday guys, same applies. A 5’4 guy who is low status but keeps his room clean is not gonna have as much sexual access as a 6’4 who is high status but leaves his room a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:21 PM
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It’s totally related. I have an example of my point. You just don’t want to understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:11 PM
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I’m proving to you that cleaning has no effect on a man’s ability to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:08 PM
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What don’t you understand about the fact that one sex is more dominant and the other is more submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:07 PM
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It is reflective of the natural power dynamic between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:06 PM
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You think Chris brown without cleaning his room will get laid less than an incel dork who does clean his room?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:06 PM
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Yes you do know lmao, don’t try to weasel out of this one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:02 PM
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I agree. One sex is designed to be dominant and other is designed to be submissive. Nothing we can do about it other than use strap ons and dildos
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:01 PM
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Sex reflects the natural power dynamics between men and women. One is the dom the other is the sub. Men and women are not innately egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:44 PM
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The person penetrating is the dom and the person getting penetrated is the sub. This is not egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:43 PM
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I don’t disagree but at the same time modern women tend to do the same thing. They tend to want the benefits of traditional gender norms that are self beneficial (like wanting the man paying most of the bills, the man protecting her, wanting taller men, wanting higher status men) but then they complain about men wanting traditional gender norms that don’t benefit them (like wanting a woman who will submit and obey, wanting a chaste woman, wanting a young woman, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:42 PM
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That’s not the point. Given the choice, most women would rather be with an attractive man who doesn’t clean than an unattractive man who does clean. Right or wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:25 PM
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No such thing as egalitarians. Do you guys take turns pegging each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:23 PM
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Same deal for a wive. Women (generally) would rather marry an attractive man (financially, etc) who doesn’t clean than a broke man who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:22 PM
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Ok so you’re willing to date an ugly low status man who cleans over a handsome tall high status man who doesn’t? More attractive men have less incentive to do these things because they got more options
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:21 PM
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You are proving my point without realizing it. You are agreeing that women want a more dominant men. You see, men don’t care about having a dominant women, that’s why men usually date women who are weaker physically, mentally, emotionally, economically and status wise. Only women are driven this way, not men. Because women want more dominant men, that by definition makes them the more submissive sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:19 PM
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Outside the bedroom women still want a more dominant man. Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want higher earning men. Status wise, women tend to want higher status men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:14 PM
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I don’t need to live there to know that hundreds of years ago the male Vikings were more dominant and the females were comparatively submissive to the men. This is common sense. There is no recorded society where the women were more dominant than the men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:10 PM
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There’s plenty of evidence. Just look at all the popular romances and eroticas that women consume. All of them women are sexually attracted to being smaller, weaker, lower status, etc compared to the a more dominant man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:08 PM
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The difference is that men innately want to dominate. If they lose yes they must submit. This is in contrast to women who want to find a more dominant man to be subordinate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:05 PM
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I have family from there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:04 PM
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Agreed. If rape was so prevelant, there would be no such thing as evolution via sexual selection, because the men would just pass their genes on without female choice. However we know this is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:03 PM
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Biology doesn’t care about modern life. Biologically women are the weaker, submissive sex. We see this manifested in many ways even in modern society because women can’t change their biology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:01 PM
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In order for something to be submissive it has to get dominated. Like in the bedroom, without a sub there is no dom (women tend to like to be submissive and be dominated by men during sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:00 PM
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No it’s not a Christian ideal, it’s a biological drive. Many other religions like Islam and Hinduism say the same. But even in non religious western societies women generally still like to be submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:58 PM
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They were still submissive compared to the men. Religion has little influence in Scandinavia and women still like to be submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:57 PM
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The real answer is because there are other things that make him attractive. Men who are handsome, tall, and high status don’t have to clean their house and will still get more pussy than a sub5 incel who is a neat freak
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:55 PM
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There’s no correlation with how clean a man is to how much he gets laid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:54 PM
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You are doing a lot of mental gymnastics and conflations. I will ask you a simple question, please answer it directly: if women don’t respect shorter men, why should men have to respect shorter women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:04 AM
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You really don’t see any of the work that goes into being graceful, elegant, well-kept, having an engaging personality, or anything at all? Lol, ok. I’m sure you only go for disheveled women with tangled hair and misshapen clothes who grunt and slouch and grumble and frown and curse and step on your toes. As long as she’s got big tits and a tiny waist, you don’t appreciate any of the effort for the performance of femininity. Beauty is largely genetics. I can admire a woman for taking care of her…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:04 PM
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Yes. Most women find most men unattractive. Even most blue pilled women will admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:20 PM
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Yes that’s a good point, patriarchy is different from misogyny however feminists think that patriarchy is inherently misogynistic so that’s why I conflated the two, because it seems you are arguing from a feminist perspective. I believe in patriarchy but I don’t believe in misogyny Men send OTHER men to go fight and die in wars. It is patriarchal but not misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:40 PM
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It’s 2025 and we still reference the Laws of Newton
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:48 PM
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Yes some women did help in the war efforts in nonviolent ways but the point of what I said is that women were generally kept safe in war Yes some women do face violence and sexual violence during war but again, the point is compared to men they were relatively safe. Anthropological evidence showed extensive male casualties is wars The drive to stay alive is stronger than the drive to reproduce. Therefore if men actually hated women they would send their women and go sexless before they would sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:47 PM
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He’s not short, not fat, and overall average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:22 PM
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I think you consume too much red pill content. And that’s coming from me. Men are more attracted to disagreeable Kim Kardashian than agreeable Oprah. Agreeableness is a good personality trait for women in long term relationship, but it has nothing to do with their actual attractiveness. Men will get with disagreeable women if they’re attractive, but they won’t get with agreeable women who are unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:25 PM
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do you not admire women when they excel at being beautiful, graceful, feminine, and nurturing? Do you not want to give your bodies to them and get fucked by those women? No I do not admire women for being beautiful. When I see a beautiful woman I think she is attractive and lucky to have her big breasts or wide hips. But admire is a step too far. I only admire people for things they earned, not things they got handed to genetically. We all are dealt a deck in life, some better than others. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:08 PM
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For being attractive to men? No it’s not. It’s just a non factor. Do you think Kim Kardashian or Rihanna struggle attracting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:00 PM
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If you’ve read thousands names one where the main man was short, fat, and bald
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:12 PM
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Name one romance movie where the male lead is short, fat, bald, and facially unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:12 PM
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<image> This is the okcupid study where most women rated most men as unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:56 PM
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Most women find the same subset of men attractive. This is apparent because almost no women prefer short men with weak jawlines, bald heads, obese, and prey eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:55 PM
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No, I do not accept that. Marriages are supposed to be “till death to us part” meaning the woman is obligated to stay even if she meets a more attractive man and falls out. Women do this as adults too don’t move the goalposts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:47 AM
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Not wanting to be with a fickle woman who will leave me if she finds a more attractive man and take half my money is me not being emotionally mature?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:26 AM
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Smh. This is why men don’t want marriage as much as women. Why risk half your life earnings for fickle women like this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:00 AM
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Do you think this is acceptable behavior? A man leaving you after he sees a more attractive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:44 AM
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So you think this is acceptable? A man dumping you because he seen a more attractive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:44 AM
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Yup. Women want to blame men as a whole but are ignoring the fact that most men have shitty, probably worse than them. Most men struggle to get a tinder date. Even historically during the times of “patriarchy” 80% of men didn’t reproduce. Supposedly the patriarchy was so evil and mean to women. Turns out it was men dying in a ditch getting shot while women sat at home with the kids. If it was truly a patriarchy, the men can have the women fight we could sit around as say “you send your women, I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:43 AM
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It doesn’t matter about his interested, it matters about hers. She was interested in another guy while she already had a boyfriend, so she branched swung to the next guy. If a woman is in a committed relationship, she should not have eyes on other men. The fact that you are defending this money branching is why men have these AWALT stereotypes about women and generally don’t trust them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:26 AM
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Men usually don’t care about a woman’s strength or status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:19 AM
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She already had her hand on the next monkey branch while she was with him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:54 AM
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Like this data? “For Online Daters, Women Peak at 18 While Men Peak at 50, Study Finds. Oy.“ (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:07 AM
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Men will have sex with strong women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:06 AM
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This is true. Evolutionary women needed stronger men for security
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:50 AM
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Not everybody so sexually attracted to leaders. That’s the point of this post. Generally only women are sexually attracted to leaders. Men typically aren’t attracted to Oprah or Hillary Clinton because they are leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:48 AM
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Men admire other men when they excel in something, but we don’t want to give our bodies to them and get fucked by those men. That’s the difference with women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:40 AM
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She is probably answering thinking if he is crying over something serious like death of a family member. If he cries over a rom com or somebody calling him mean words most women would be turned off
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:22 AM
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MOST women want to be led
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:21 AM
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MOST women want to be led
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:21 AM
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Dominant just means stronger than you. Most women want a man who’s physically, mentally, and emotionally stronger than them because of the fact that women are the weaker sex so they seek security from men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:15 AM
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This is deflection. OP was referring to in a sexual context
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:14 AM
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Dominant does not mean control. Dominant just means stronger than, and I’m sure you want a man stronger than you (physically, mentally, emotionally) outside of the bedroom as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:11 AM
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What I find interesting about this phenomenon is that women who claim they are dominant want an even more dominant man. But also women who are more submissive still want a dominant man. So the bottom line is, women in general prefer dominant men, regardless if they consider themselves weak or strong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:09 AM
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Men and women are different. They have different sexual strategies. Men are hardwired to be driven to maximize mating opportunities AND at the same time prefer a woman who is more sexually chaste to invest long term in because evolutionarily that ensured paternal certainty. Two different goals here that you are conflating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:05 AM
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Women are (generally) attracted to attractive men regardless if they are misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:58 PM
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Women initiate the overwhelming majority of breakups and divorces. Women control access to sex, they are the buyers in the casual sexual marketplace so it’s not men’s fault for women being 304s. Average guy struggles to get a tinder date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:56 PM
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Men peak in their 20s physical attractiveness, but women generally prioritize non physical attractive cues like status over physical looks. Therefore men’s mate value peaks in their late 30s at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:41 PM
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Cold approach pick up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:31 PM
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Once a girl, always a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:30 PM
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That is monkey branching, just quicker than normal. There is no honor in what you did
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:28 PM
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You can either understand or respect women, but not both
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:25 PM
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Nice guys still approach women. They just get rejected more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:24 PM
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Red pill is right. You can either understand women or respect women as equals, but you don’t do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:24 PM
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There is no point in asking this question to women. Firstly, women tend to not know what they want. Secondly, even if they do know what they want, there is going to be this strong selection bias because women who do like strong, dominant men usually are quiet compared to women who believe in modern feminism and egalitarianism. Also the demographics of female Redditors skews latter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:21 PM
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Patriarchy only benefits the men at the top. Because they control the highest share of the resources, power, and sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:11 PM
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Women will get the things they want like usually provisioning (even women who make money want a man to make more than him so he can provide), protection, emotional support, attention, good dick, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:40 AM
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No they didn’t, it was always known it was a degenerative disease of modern societies. Because native or more traditional societies did not suffer from them. If you can’t accept that hair greying and skin wrinkling is apart of normal aging, you are definitely a conspiracy theorist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:59 AM
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Everything I said was facts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:56 AM
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Many women have zero interest in the “protector / provider” narrative that men seem obsessed with. Last time I checked almost all women want a man bigger and stronger than them. If a women gets assaulted, women will expect the man to provide protection We are actually looking for a partner, not a mindless servant… Women are looking for leaders. Partners implies equal status. Women (at least subconsciously) want the man to be higher status than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:37 AM
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So… women want an ATM emotional tampon bodyguard 🤢🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:34 AM
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Wrinkles and grey hair is not a disease, it’s the normal aging process
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:22 AM
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It’s easy. Just don’t be a 304, don’t be annoying, don’t talk too much, don’t try to be dominant or demanding, obey, cook and clean without being asked, and spread your legs when asked
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:22 AM
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I don't really have fine lines or grey hair, and even if I did, I would treat them with botox and dye. I don't hide my age
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:20 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:08 AM
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I don’t want an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:20 PM
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Thank you. I used to be a nice guy in my teens but after I started becoming more of a cocky asshole with women I notice get more interest from them. I can’t speak for other men but I think a lot of them are catching on now thanks to the explosion of red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:18 PM
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Yes men care about quantity. Most men struggle getting even getting dates, barely get any matches online that go anywhere, constantly get rejected in real life. So yes quantity is important to the sex that doesn’t get bombarded with attention. Can you please answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:03 PM
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Who gets more pussy, on average, bad boys or nice guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:06 PM
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If ephephilia is not a disorder what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:47 PM
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According to the DSM that’s not even a disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:40 PM
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What is your definition of pedophilia? I’m not defending pedophilia, I am talking about biological realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:38 PM
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Feminism makes some correct observations about male-female dynamics but they are totally wrong when it comes to why they exist and what to do about it because they ignore biology. For example, feminism says the world is a patriarchy, which red pillers would generally agree. It’s hard to deny that when in almost every single country men hold most of the political, financial, and military power. However feminism will blame patriarchy on men conspiring to oppress women to dominate them and keep the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:37 PM
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It’s evidence that most men would do it if it was legal. Because biologically and genetically we are essentially the same as our past male ancestors
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:24 PM
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Women have been gaslighting men about liking nice guys for generations now. And to a lesser extent looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:23 PM
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They want this double standards where women will have all the rights and benefits while not having responsibility or accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:17 PM
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Yes most would. Matter of fact most of our male ancestors did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:16 PM
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Capital punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:15 PM
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16 is legal age of consent in my jurisdiction. I think this is fair because basically all females have reached biological adulthood by this age frankly most of them at 16 already have some sort of sexual experience “An adult is a human or other animal that has reached full growth.[1] The biological definition of the word means an animal reaching sexual maturity and thus capable of reproduction.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:13 PM
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This is common sense. If this wasn’t true, only Instagram supermodels would be getting hit on and below average women would get no male attention. The reality for men is that if there is no possibility of success, there is not point in hitting on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:11 PM
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I disagree. You can accept biological realities (ie the red pill) but still have emotions about them (ie anger). Just like you can accept death, but still feel sad about death
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:08 PM
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Only in the efforts of proving the point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:11 PM
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I’m not trying to pick on the individual, I’m trying to pick on the position
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:02 PM
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If casual sex is so bad for women then why do they keep doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:32 AM
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Don’t be rude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:00 PM
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Their feelings aren’t rational in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:00 PM
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What do you do when you get horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:57 PM
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I notice that women often act like a chameleon trying to camouflage when asked these type of questions. For instance, a woman will complain about women paying 50/50 on bills, then I will ask “do you believe in gender equality?”, (now she anticipates I will box her into the gender equality position which implies women must provide equally) so she says “no I don’t, I’m not a feminist”. Then the next day she will complain about gender pay gap, orgasm gap, patriarchy, etc. Women tend to not have a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:50 PM
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Fair enough. But I would say that most women who watch romances/eroticas still dont like it when men watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:38 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:34 PM
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But you watch romances and eroticas of people you don’t know I’m sure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:32 PM
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Ok but this discussion is about the marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:37 PM
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Hypergamy is in regards to overall attractiveness, not just physical attractiveness. Beautiful women are rarely with broke, contextually low status, ugly men. There is a plethora of research supporting the existence of female hypergamy, it is basically the scientific consensus now I agree people are less social nowadays, but that’s not the root cause of why women are more sexually selective than men and large swaths of men are sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:15 PM
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It is legit data from okcupid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:40 PM
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Do you watch romances or erotica?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:39 PM
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Again, this is lack of female accountability. “Hollywood” is a business that pushes things that the market wants, because that’s how they make money. If Hollywood was to make G rated movies about lessons from the Bible, Hollywood would go out of business because most people aren’t going to be interested. Hollywood makes movies the market find appealing and sexy like 50 shades, because that’s what the market (women) want! Do not blame Hollywood, blame the market (women). A woman made that meme. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:51 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:44 PM
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In a sense I agree, the average guy is unattractive. But this is due to women’s hypergamy, they are driven to mate up. The average girl does not want the average guy, she wants an above average guy. So the average guy is unattractive to most women. So there are more amounts of men who are unnattractive than the number of women who are unnattractive. The effects of female hypergamy is the reason why marriage and fertility rates are all time low. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:44 PM
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Now you’re admitting you were wrong, you didn’t before. You need to take accountability for watching the rape/abuse content you used to watch. You are trying to blame your friends but it’s not their fault that YOU watched it. If I had a friend who asked me to watch gay porn, whose fault would it be if I decided to watch it? I think most women think that it’s okay to consume that type of content because of the popularity of that type of content. It is by far the best selling romance books so stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:37 PM
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It is a “gotcha” moment, that’s why you can’t refute it. You don’t want a man who watches rape/abuse content, even though you watched rape/abuse content. When men watch rape, it’s misogynistic. When you women like you watch rape, it’s “so what?”. That is a massive double standard that you are unable to content with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:23 PM
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Average guy puts in all this money, time, and energy only to get rejected most of the time, flaked on, used for his attention/money, hardly gets intamcy, etc. If he does get a decent acting girl it is probably a fugly or single mom below his league
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:19 PM
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Having sex with a woman after she says no and the safe words is not rape anymore? https://www.al.com/entertainment/2015/02/lines_from_50_shades_of_grey_t.html This is a good example of female double standards whenever it’s beneficial
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:15 PM
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No actually most male animals are not monogamous. “Monogamy in mammals is rather rare, only occurring in 3–9% of these species.”https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monogamy_in_animals I do not agree about the parts you added. Nobody should use anybody, but realistically a lot of women use men and the reverse. Romance is a real thing but romance has conditions, from men it’s contingent off of sexual access but from women it’s contingent on what value the man provides. Women typically don’t want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:05 PM
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Because most likely (based on statistics) she is doing xyz herself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:53 PM
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Right, women’s innate mating strategy is focused on quality while men’s is quantity. When women are fertile, I agree their sex drive is as strong as men. But women aren’t fertile for as long as men are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:48 PM
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I’d rather have sex with 100 “bad girls” than 1 “good girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:43 PM
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I am just pointing out the double standard because it’s related to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:40 PM
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I agree. That’s what I mean by most women have engaged in casual sex multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:40 PM
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It’s common knowledge that males are hardwired to be driven to spread their seed. With any other male animal, like if we were breeding dogs or cows, this would not even be controversial. It’s just with humans people will try to dispute this basic biological fact because of social condition and ego investments. The main constraint for most men not to do this is lack of sexual options. Being loyal for a man and woman is different. For example, when it comes to sacrificing one’s life for each other…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:39 PM
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I’m new here I didn’t know that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:58 PM
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Because this is a question for women they will remove my comment if I don’t post under a woman’s comment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:56 PM
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This is an oversimplification of men but it is true most of the time. Most men who are given an easy, low investment, attractive woman to cheat with, most men will cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:54 PM
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I don’t know you personally I’m just speaking in general. Most women don’t like when men watch porn, especially abusive porn. Meanwhile women are the overwhelmingly consume romances involving the same “abuse” they cry about and they usually have pornographic scenes as well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:52 PM
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No most women have done it MULTIPLE times. But on women aren’t hardwired to be as permiscuous as men so obviously a woman won’t have sex with as many people as a man would (if he had unlimited options)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:49 PM
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What about porn is a turn off?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:47 PM
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50 shades of grey entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:47 PM
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Women overwhelmingly consume content involving BDSM like 50 shades of grey. This is a double standard <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:45 PM
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I would feel insecure if he watched a lot of porn that depicts something he can't get from me. What about all the women who watch 50 shades of grey? Most men aren’t billionaires, over 6 ft tall, or very handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:44 PM
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50 shades of grey contains abuse against women, I bet you find that acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:42 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:41 PM
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Classic double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:39 PM
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You are the one who brought up there are studies to support your view, so you must bring up the studies first. I agree men are more interested in casual sex than women, but the number of people who actually do engage in it are about the same. There is a difference between women not being as interested in men versus women not being interested at all. A good analogy is who is more interested in marriage, men or women? Obviously women, but the amount of married men and women are about the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:30 PM
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Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Drake, Chris Brown haven’t accomplished much?
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/25 02:20 PM
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You summed things up very well. Basically men have to spend tons of money, time, and energy for women who don’t provide much value in return. If you are an average or especially below average mate value man, the ROI is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:01 PM
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Please show me a study where that shows most women haven’t engaged in casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:55 PM
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Why is the treatment of the women you are interessted in dependent on her looks? Same reason why women treat men in accordance to his looks <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:52 PM
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He’s probably average to the marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:35 PM
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Why would a woman’s standard for how she wants to be treated adjust according to how attractive you find her? Because women (generally) treat men in accordance how attractive they find the man. That’s why celebrities can screw women backstage without a date meanwhile that same woman will demand to be taken out on a bunch of expensive dates from an average guy trying to date her before giving up weak starfish sex. If you’re choosing to pay for dates and give gifts to women and then resenting thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:34 PM
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<image> This applies here. The fact of the matter is that MOST women engage (or if they are in relationships previously engaged in) casual sex. This is true regardless of how many of your friends take engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:27 PM
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Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:52 AM
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Lmao. So women are insecure for having their preferences. Men are insecure for having their preferences. I wouldn’t agree but it’s fair that you have consistency
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:57 PM
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Ok then why are you trying to invalidate incels have lack of mating success because they’re ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:54 PM
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Even if a woman is interested, 9/10 times men have to initiate most of the advances listed above
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:49 PM
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Ok so women who prefer taller men “feel” insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:39 PM
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That’s the scientific term
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:12 PM
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And which stage in life she’s in. (Which part of the dualistic mating strategy she is prioritizing)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:56 PM
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You are conflating physical attractiveness with overall attractiveness. OP finds the IG model type more physically attractive but finds more meek girls more attractive in other regards. It does not make a man insecure for not wanting an immodest women who sexually expose themselves. You don’t have to like the term 304s, but it’s undeniable that some women are indeed 304s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:55 PM
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Ok. Are women insecure for wanting taller men? Because they are insecure for about the need for protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:49 PM
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Ok, fine, we’ll use your logic. Now if women prefer taller men, are they insecure? Because it’s not rational in today’s modern world for women to want a physical protector because we live in civil societies where taller men aren’t necessary to protect because we live have advanced weapons like guns, police, and overall very low rates of violent crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:47 PM
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That can work for women but not for men. Men don’t just go out and “things happen”. Men are expected to initiate everything from a to z. Everything from approaching the girl, carrying the conversation, asking for the girls number, asking the girl out on a date, planning the date, etc. Women don’t have to plan because the man already takes care of the plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:43 PM
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Ok I see what you’re saying now. I think the semantics are being confused here. You are conflating beauty (aka physical attractiveness) with attractiveness in general. An IG baddie is more beautiful than an average looking girl who may be a virgin. However investing in a 304 is so repulsive for long term relationships, that many men will find the average looking virgin woman overall more attractive than an IG baddie for a long term relationship. If you think that’s pathetic, women do a very simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:39 PM
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Honestly, if men don’t want their women to expose their sexual body parts, it is not insecure. It is a preference rooted in evolution and biology (to ensure paternal certainty)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:28 PM
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No she is an immodest woman. Men generally prefer purer women, though men will sacrifice that for beauty to an extent depending on the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:27 PM
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Do you disagree that incels usually are physically unattractive which makes them struggle with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:16 PM
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Men preferring purer women does not make them insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:59 PM
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For short term mating- attractive provocative girl Long term mating- pure, meek unattractive girl
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:58 PM
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I wouldn’t recommend the first three subs. They are pro female echo chambers
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 06:21 AM
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Is there an income disparity between you two?
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/25 03:51 PM
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