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This is better advice than the commenter above. But female selectivity ie hypergamy still exists which will make it difficult for men seeking casual sex. You would think it’s easier to have casual sex with a girl who’s average in attractiveness at the club but it’s still relatively difficult for the average attractiveness man https://preview.redd.it/klwc2khczklf1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78b9026045697db161b0909e3ab34f8d31a96a2b The average man wants the average woman. The average w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:30 PM
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This is apart of a previous comment I made on this post “This whole question is a joke because there’s nothing the average guy can do except go for fugly women beneath him or improve his SMV to join that top 20%” I will add there’s one more thing a man seeking casual sex with comparably attractive women can do and that is to deceive her into thinking he’ll commit. But I don’t recommend this because it’s unethical
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:26 PM
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Ok great we’re in agreement. Yes, she was asked for her advice, I never said she couldn’t give her advice, all I said is that her advice is laughable because of how unhelpful it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:56 PM
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Because the supply of women would be theoretically greater in those pro choice states. But in real life, the attractive top 20% (or arguably less) will get tons of pussy regardless of abortion law. Women simply do not have the same appetite for casual sex as men do. And when they do have casual sex, it is with higher value men because of the supply and demand dynamics when it comes to casual sex. This whole question is a joke because there’s nothing the average guy can do except go for fugly wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:50 PM
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If the average guy on the street approached you (while you’re single) and asked "Hey, if you are ever single... Can you tell me how to get on the short list, for next time you are lonely for some late night company?" How likely would be get casual sex with you? And when I mean average guy, I mean a 5’9 forklift operator who earns $60k/yr with the face of JD Vance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:47 PM
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Excuse me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:20 PM
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That would lead a lot of men running to pro choice states to get casual sex, but the women looking for relationships would move to the sausage fest states to better shots at relationships. I don’t think that would change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:51 PM
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I said maximum 2%. Might as well swipe on a dating app it’s less effort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:34 AM
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Just like pro choice women can move to states where abortion is legal right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:31 AM
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She doesn’t admit to this, but I suspect this is why she’s worrisome
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:30 AM
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I don’t have tik tok so I can’t see. But you women don’t want low value men anyways so you aren’t affected
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:32 AM
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I’m a woman. This is my opinion. “Never ask a fish how to catch fish, ask the fisherman”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:26 AM
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Lmao this is comedy "Hey, if you are ever single... Can you tell me how to get on the short list, for next time you are lonely for some late night company?" This will have a 2% success rate tops. IRL, this type of neediness/desperation is repulsive towards women (unless the man is out of their league)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:48 AM
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Legalize prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:42 AM
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Because women get more financial security by being married than not being married
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:41 AM
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You’re only proving my point. If western women don’t care then why should passport bros be stopped?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:30 AM
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None of those things (except #4) are caused by an international marriage. In regards to #4, women don’t want those guys anyways so it shouldn’t hurt them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:27 PM
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Why should this be stopped? You did a CMV without even explaining your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:24 PM
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You think a man can have a satisfactory and self actualized life fucking obese walruses?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:30 PM
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Use your brain. If they are so selective they only swiped on 4% of men it’s most likely it was the most attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:30 PM
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No we live in the opposite society
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:28 PM
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I probably have read more nonfiction books than you. You cannot disprove my arguments. The fact that women (including feminists) usually prefer tradional male gender norms like men being bigger/stronger, higher status, high earning, more confident, and get turned on by dominant men is contrary to egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:01 PM
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No just to illustrate an example
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:31 PM
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You think a man can have a satisfactory and self actualized life fucking obese walruses?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:31 PM
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Sexual intamcy is more than vagina. It’s the whole person and the experience with them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:30 PM
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Women swiped right on 4% of men, I’m asking you what’s more likely, are they swiping 4% of above average attractiveness men or not? One would think if you’re that selective you’re only going for the attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:30 PM
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You think the average man will be satisfied sleeping with an obese walrus?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:13 PM
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I think the answer is the same for both genders but men in particular tend to have a stronger need for sex because of biological reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:13 PM
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“ Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Because if women are only swiping right on 4% of men, who else do you think they’re swiping on?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:12 PM
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You think a man can have a satisfactory and self actualized life being a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:11 PM
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It’s a problem because sexual intimacy is literally on the Maslow heirarchy of needs. So of men aren’t getting this need met, they will not live a satisfactory, self-actualized life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:50 PM
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Because you are not taking what I say in its full context. You are just searching for excerpts that seem contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:24 PM
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Men are lonely and struggling to get dates with women on their own attractiveness level
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:22 PM
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Yes. This imbalance in the mating marketplace causes a lot of single men (and women)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:22 PM
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Ok and so do whores like Melania now what? Mate value is a myriad of factors looks, age, past, money, status etc.. Brown would definitely have more value if he wasn’t a POS he’d probably be married to a high status woman. Melania is not a white, but yes she did in the past have high mate value (of course she is older now with a kid so not quite anymore) Yea so? You made it sound like men who are good looking but broke have no “mate value” this isn’t necessarily so, it depends on the women’s mati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:31 PM
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Average men are largely ignored by average women. Average men are not ignored by below average women, however average men don’t really want below average men, therefore they are struggling in the mating market
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:42 PM
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I meant different things in different contexts. Big deal. You are just being an ass about it to create a “gotcha” moment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:41 PM
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Yes and? That means Chris brown has high mate value regardless of his past crimes Lol that’s a lie most women would sleep with the handsome guy and cuck the ugly rich one lol. Women sleep with broke hotties all the time. I specifically said marry Also Chris Brown isn’t ugly so a 1 to 1 comparison would be an attractive woman who is rich. Yes many men would want to marry such a woman. Most women would rather marry Donald Trump than a handsome Walmart cashier Yes you did you said it doesn’t count …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:11 PM
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Copy and paste the FULL question Also answer my questions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:11 PM
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You made that number up. Secondly I told you he is rich. Obviously some women will want to marry him just for that. MOST women want to marry rich men, that’s why his mate value is so high You think men would rather marry some waitress than a multimillionaire? If the waitress is physically attractive and the multimillionaire is ugly, most men would marry the waitress. The same is not true for women, most women would choose the ugly mean millionaire than a handsome nice guy who stocks shelves at W…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:03 PM
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I think you’re talking about a different question. What you are asking about is not something you asked about on this tread. I don’t even know what you’re talking about as I can’t find what you’re asking on this thread. Please answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:40 AM
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Which question did I not answer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:26 AM
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Do you think most people (beside you) think that one can have a satisfactory self-actualized life being a lifelong virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:03 AM
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I answered your question TWICE Answer my questions now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:01 AM
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How is Chris Brown desirable for a long term relationship? Isn’t he a woman beater, violent and drug abuser? He also doesn’t have a great relationship history. You tell me. Tell me why 9/10 woman would rather marry Chris brown than an average guy who works as a forklift operator. I don’t think this is rocket science. Women who would want Brown for “long term” are probably after his money Yes, money is a big part of men’s mate value because women give large weight to a man’s resource capacity in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:12 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39575680.amp No I asked who is more desirable for long term relationships, Chris brown or Lana Rhodes. For short term sex is different because most men are willing to have short term with a promiscuous woman, because they’re hoping history will repeat itself 😉 Reily Reid is married to a nobody lmao, same with Mia khalifa. Anybody can find a marriage partner if they go low enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:24 AM
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It’s not a moral judgement. Just like women who don’t like bisexual men but are still pro LGBTQ. They’re not morally against gay/bi men but they’re just not sexually attracted to them Many people don’t believe in morals because they can be subjective. Some people just believe in the laws of nature, strong survive weak die, etc I will reword that. If a woman doesn’t want a man who cries as often as her, is that hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:26 AM
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Promiscuity isn’t necessarily a moral behavior either like I told you. Plenty of men who don’t have believ in religions or morals but still are disgusted by being in a relationship with a high knotch count woman. desiring a specific type of behavior is called a VALUE If a woman who is not generally confident wants a man who is generally confident, she wants a behavior in a man she doesn’t have herself. Pure hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:59 PM
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If a 40 year old only wants to date 20 year old women, would that be as acceptable to you as a short woman who wants a tall man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:55 PM
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You just contradicted yourself. You said that me wanting a behavior in women that I don’t have myself (purity) is hypocritical but women wanting men behaving confidently even though they’re insecure is not hypocritical. This is what I mean in my original point that women’s preferences are seen as valid but not men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:40 PM
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Not wanting a promiscuous woman isn’t necessarily a value judgement. It can be for people who are religious, etc but for people like me I don’t think promiscuous women are immoral, I just can’t be attracted to be with a promiscuous woman in a long term relationship. Here are more examples involving non physical features Are non 6 figure earning women who want 6 figure earning men hypocrites? Are low status women who want high status men hypocrites? Are insecure women who want confident men hypoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:31 PM
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Do you think that one can have a satisfactory self-actualized life being a lifelong virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:17 PM
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That was literally the point of contention, I said that sexual intimacy is a need for a self actualized life because it’s in the Maslow heirarchy of needs. Then you said that Maslow is bs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:06 PM
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The harms of gynocentrism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:03 PM
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Status is in part determined by resource capacity. Ancestrally, a man who owned 100 goats would be deemed higher status than a man who only owned 2 goats
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:03 PM
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Melania was a model who took one topless photo shoot. Not exactly a pornstar or sex worker If you think men and women’s preference against promiscuous mates is not that different, who do you think would have more people interested in being with long term, Chris brown who fucked a thousand women or some beautiful model woman like Lana Rhodes who also got fucked by a thousand men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:01 PM
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They are opposite preferences. Anything pro sodomy is controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:57 PM
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So you think that one can have a satisfactory self-actualized life being an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:55 PM
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About what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:53 PM
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I did answer your question. My answer was no. But according to the commenters logic above, yes. Are short women who want tall men hypocrites? Are non 6 figure earning women who want 6 figure earning men hypocrites? Are low status women who want high status men hypocrites? Are insecure women who want confident men hypocritesz?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:53 PM
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According to the people who think it’s hypocritical for a man who wants a virgin even though he’s not a virgin himself, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:49 PM
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Bring public awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:49 PM
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Again, similar misunderstanding. You are taking little excerpts out of context to try to get a “gotcha” moment. When I said the previous comment it was in relation to this thread. When I said men are invisible in those screenshots it was referring to men being invisible to women of their mate value. For instance, women of average attractiveness don’t wanna be with men of similarly average attractiveness, average women want above average men. This is because of female hypergamy. Technically a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:48 PM
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Lmao that was from over two weeks ago but I think there is a misunderstanding of the word settle. When I used the word settle back then I meant mate with men below their mate values. Like a female who is an 8 with a man who’s a 6. When I’m saying women settle right now I meant in the sense that they can’t fully actualize hypergamy. For example that 8 female may want a 10 man, but she may settle for a guy who’s an 8
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:41 PM
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You didn’t really answer the question. Previously you said you shouldn’t justify preferences based on evolution. However preferences tend to be based on evolutionary traits. Bisexuality isn’t based on evolution so that’s not a good example
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:39 PM
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Chest
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:13 AM
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I said that women usually want more dominant men. Not that they want to be dominated and bossed around. Basically women usually want a man who’s more powerful and in a higher position of status. Also women usually want taller and stronger men. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want men with more resource capacity. No, parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:13 AM
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Quick Google search: Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more noun either of the two soft, protruding organs on the upper front of a woman's body that secrete milk after pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:15 AM
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OP is just trying to create a “gotcha” moment by comparing something unusual (male homosexuality or male sexual submissiveness) to something unusual AND widely considered morally repugnant ( pedophilia or incest)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:13 AM
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Sure. The original point was the women are more unified than men because women are weaker and benefit more from the unity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:10 AM
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The big deal is I’m not attracted to men. Women like you put us men in a lose-lose situation just blame us for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:10 AM
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I didn’t deny any of these things. I just said women are more unified than men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:09 AM
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I never said average men are invisible I never said women don’t settle Ok whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:08 AM
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If a man pretends to be a multimillionaire with fake money, photoshopped photos, counterfeit money cars and clothes, a blue check mark on Instagram, etc, wouldnt that make women’s preference for high status pretty illogical and not based in fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:06 AM
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I agree that cues of high status is cultural and change over time. But that’s not my question. My question was is women wanting high status men a biological drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:02 AM
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Hot take but with the knowledge that men would do a lot of things if they weren’t illegal Sure, but so would women A man saying he wants to only date 18 year olds is pretty deviant. No statistically it’s not deviant because 18 year olds are the most right swiped age for women on dating apps “For Online Daters, Women Peak at 18 While Men Peak at 50, Study Finds. Oy.” https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html#:~:text=That%20anecdote%20came%20to%20mind,who%20are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:01 AM
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It’s an attribute that they want in the opposite sex that they don’t have themselves. Attributes can be physical, financial, mental, emotional, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:58 PM
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What an unintelligent argument. Everything I named are traits that women have. Women have varying heights, money, status, and degrees of mental strength. Breasts are something men can’t have because males don’t develop mammary glands
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:56 PM
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That’s nonsense. Dr David Buss’ 37 cross cultural study proved that in every single examined culture, men cared more about a women’s sexual past than the reverse. This is an adaptive trait to content with the evolutionary problem of parental uncertainty that men had to contend with. It’s not low standards, it’s a specific adaptation to an adaptive problem Those porn stars are not getting married to high status men. Sure any woman can get married to some bum, that’s not an achievement. There is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:55 PM
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Sorry, men and women have different evolved mating preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:51 PM
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Men won’t say it in person for obvious reasons. Also the lower mate value the man is the less likely he’s going to be picky
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:50 PM
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I agree. And some of them are higher status than others in that structure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:49 PM
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You get the point, some animals do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:48 PM
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Maslow heirarchy of needs is well accepted in the scientific community. Any person with half a brain will tell you you need a sex life for a self actualized fulfilled life. Evolution is a theory. Gravity is a theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:48 PM
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I never said men have a preference against high earning women, I just said men tend not care care much about it. It of course desirable but not the main attraction cues of women. Men chase 22 year old women because they’re attractive, not because they’re high status. It is funny old women like you try to tell men to stop chasing girls in their twenties and go older, but as a man in my twenties older women don’t want me because I’m to young/low status/broke and young women don’t want me either be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:45 PM
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So where do you draw the line between preferences and evolutionary instincts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:39 PM
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OP's saying that a man who says he wants a submissive partner should be viewed the same way as a woman saying she wants a dominant partner, but those things aren't equivalent they are in the sense of evolved mating preferences. Evolutionary, men were more dominant than the women, that’s why most women prefer a more dominant man and most men prefer a more submissive woman If a woman expressed a preference for a partner they could boss around, I would judge her too. This does not fit my argument t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:38 PM
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Not as much as women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:29 PM
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I just drew an analogy. Men tend to be stronger and more independent than women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:29 PM
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Maybe but not as fast as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:28 PM
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You can say the same of pedophilia and incest
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:28 PM
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Unprotected male homosexual sex leads to the highest STD’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:27 PM
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On the news every year they keep saying they are close to finding the gay gene, but they can never find it 😂 And again, I didn’t say homosexuality and incest and pedophilia are equally harmful, I said they’re equally unnatural because they go against our evolved mating strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:27 PM
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Glad we are in agreement, too bad the previous commenter won’t answer she totally ignored Lisa Bilyeu so I think she realized she’s in a lose-lose situation if she answers the question
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:10 PM
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You claimed pedophilia and incest are unnatural based on the immorality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:06 PM
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It’s self explanatory. Let’s say self harm, is it unnatural to starve oneself or amputate body parts for non medical reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:05 PM
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I’ve never heard of Lori Harvey and doja cat getting slammed for their preference. I think you’re just hyper focused on women who get small amounts of push back
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:59 PM
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Because biologically there are cues of high status. Women pick up on these cues. For example, men with the most resources land respect from the group are cues of high status. Even other animal groups like chimpanzees and lions have status heirarchy. There was an experiment done on chimpanzees where the chimps stared at the faces of the high status chimps longer than the low status chimps, just like humans would. There is something biological about status. If status is not biological, why do wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:57 PM
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Those things you mentioned is not part of the Maslow heirarchy of needs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:48 PM
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More often then not. You’re trying to dilute the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:46 PM
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I’m not
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:48 PM
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So it’s more unfair to discriminate against the short man than the promiscuous woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:48 PM
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His book is based on studies “This book provides a unified theory of human mating strategies, anchored in the best scientific evidence available on sexual psychology.” Also they are not all dominant cultures he studied. He studied rural tribes like the Yanamamo, Zulu, peoples in rural Kenya and papaua New Guinea. None of these cultures have access to tv, radio, music, etc that can provide cultural exchange. Because in all those tribes without exception the men preferred purer women than the reve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:47 PM
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Again, I agree men should be more collaborative. But I don’t think you can out do biology (on a society wide basis). Men are more egotistical, self reliant, etc. If there is a way to do it I’m all for it but I just don’t see men becoming unified like women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:26 PM
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Naturalness has nothing to do with morality. It’s natural for other people to kill others and take their wives and property, but doesn’t make it moral. You are creating a disingenuous argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:21 PM
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No I don’t think it’s hypocritical. People want what they want and they dgaf if they have those attributes they want. BUT if we are using her logic it is hypocritical. It is a double standard to say that high body count men are hypocritical for wanting low body count women while saying it’s not hypocritical for a short woman to want a tall woman or a low status woman wanting a high status man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:19 PM
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If someone is doing something against their innate biology, would you agree that’s unnatural?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:17 PM
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So women wanting high status men is not biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:16 PM
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Do you say you want to be penetrated roughly in real life? Most normal people don’t say their sexual desires in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:15 PM
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I care for other men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:15 PM
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Is women’s want for a higher earning, more dominant, higher status man seen as unacceptable in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:14 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:13 PM
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You don’t agree that women want richer and higher status men? Are you a hypergamy denier?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:13 PM
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I’m generalizing. IN EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY MOST OF THE WOMEN HAVE KIDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:12 PM
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Because it affects how men get treated in real life. Stop acting like society doesn’t affect your life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:12 PM
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Just extrapolate the American data to a fit the same relative heights of Europe. Also 6’ is still taller than most of Europe. West Europe is still about 5’9 on average and south Europeans are even shorter. Regardless, women tend to prefer above average height men (relative to their society). I made a sound argument based on the same logic you told me. You said it’s okay for an average height woman to prefer a tall man, because height is a dimorphic trait that women are shorter. I’m telling you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:11 PM
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Homosexuality leads to higher rates of veneral diseases like HIV/AIDS. You can find potential harm in anything Anyways, do you agree that for a sexually reproducing species to exist, the organisms must be sexually attracted to the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:02 PM
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The commenter above said wanting attributes you don’t have is hypocritical. I am just using her logic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:00 PM
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They hear it from her or other people How does a woman biologically or evolutionarily know if a man is high status?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:59 PM
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Because I want men to have fair treatment in society. According to your logic it should be worse to have a height preference than a body count preference because you can’t change your height, but you can change your body count. Accordingly it’s immoral to discriminate against people who have features they can’t control. Again this is how your logic is easy to twist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:58 PM
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So nothing unnatural exists because if it’s happened it’s natural according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:55 PM
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If a woman marries a tall rich man, but stays quiet about her preferences, she won’t catch any flack. However if she’s vocal about her preferences, she will catch some flack. Same here for men. If men just fuck young attractive women but stay quiet about their preferences, they won’t catch much flack. This is what Leo is doing. But if they do it while stating preferences, they will get grilled up the flagpole
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:54 PM
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What’s natural to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:52 PM
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They shouldn’t be judged worse than women for the same thing (innate sexual preferences). I just want men to get treated fairly in society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:51 PM
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The solution is to have a less gynocentric society. Neutralize the simps, white knights, gynocentrists, and radical feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:51 PM
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Most people don’t complain about women’s standards, it’s just a small fraction of society like manosphere. Most people think women’s standards are acceptable Ok women have preferences outside of looks and height that are seen as acceptable like wanting a man who makes more money, is higher status, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:49 PM
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The overwhelming majority do. You are just trying to keep this vague
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:45 PM
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Guys have made it clear what they want sure, but the topic is acceptance. What women want is more acceptable by wider society. How did I communicate this information rudely? I do not see evidence in scale of men wanting all unattractive to not exist, I only see a trend men trying to holding women accountable for bad behavior and unfair treatment. Science gives us evidence of what men and women like and their evolutionary bases. Some people are more unnatractive than others, people who don’t like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:45 PM
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Wtf when have you ever heard a man say he wants a 6 figure earning women even though he doesn’t earn 6 figures? Don’t do this mental gymnastics. Men almost never have desire women more successful than them Men are only 5 inches taller than women in America (5’9 and 5’4 respectively). That is the sexual dimorphism. A 5’4 woman who wants a 6’ tall man is not merely sexual dimorphism, because the 5’4 woman is 50th percentile in height for women while 6’ man is 14th percentile in height for men. I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:40 PM
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I didn’t compare the harm, I compared their naturalness. Also adult incestuous relationships don’t even hurt kids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:27 PM
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You are misinterpreting me. Women and men are attracted to different things, so they have double standards in this regard which is fair. What I’m pointing out is that women’s mating preferences are justified with biology and evolution making them acceptable to wider society while men’s mating preferences (also supported by biology and evolution) is not accepted by wider society. This is an unfair double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:26 PM
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No it’s just that if you want to make comparisons they gotta be apples to apples
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:25 PM
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Are they natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:24 PM
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You saying that in public is less controversial than a man saying he wants a young large breasted virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:24 PM
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I agree. Men are more competitive and stronger so there is less of a need. There’s a reason why zebras run in packs while lions hunt alone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:23 PM
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Ok that we might be using the word natural differently
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:22 PM
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No you got it wrong. In the Buss study, it said that Swedish men valued virginity the least compared to all the studied cultures, but they still valued it more than women did. It also says that in every single studied cultures without exception, men carried more about premarital chastity than women. It explicitly says this preference against promiscuous women is due to paternal uncertainty. Paternal uncertainty reduces men’s reproductive success. And for the other source, humans are not exactly …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:21 PM
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I don’t care about me being judged, but I care about how men in general are judged
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:14 PM
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So you think women don’t want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:13 PM
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Women do have high standards but they’re well accepted by society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:12 PM
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A 5’4 woman preferring a 6’ man is literally an average height woman (50th percentile) wanting a tall man (14th percentile).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:06 PM
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I make 6 figures and I married a man who makes much less than me. So? Exceptions don’t prove the rule. I’m tired of women arguing like this <image> Yes some women are vapid and terrible and hypocrites just like men. Do you mean most? Because most women prefer tall men [Women want taller men much more than men want shorter women Women on average were most satisfied with men men who were 8 inches taller. Men were most satisfied when the woman was only 3 inches shorter. https://www.sciencedirect.co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:53 PM
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Incest and pedophilia existed since Rome? You think they’re natural too?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:50 PM
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Nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:49 PM
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So guilt by association?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:49 PM
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There are more examples than height. Women tend to want 6 figure earning men even though they don’t earn 6 figures. Women tend to want high status men even though they’re not high status. Women tend to want confidenct men even when they’re insecure. We can go all day here with women’s hypocritical prefernces
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:47 PM
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He’s not making his preferences known like these women online like Lisa Bilyeu
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:45 PM
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I don’t in my personal life. But society wide I don’t like how much get treated unfairly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:44 PM
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My guy, you can bleat about women saying contradicting things till the cows come home. if you want chaste women, DO NOT FUCK AROUND! You can’t demand something when you do the one thing that guarantees you won’t get what you want. That is madness. Are you trolling? Women’s mating preferences are full of demands that they don’t live up to themselves. Many want tall men, even though they’re not tall. Many want 6 figure earning men even though they don’t earn 6 figures. Many want high status men ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:44 PM
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So most women are weirdos than? Because the average height woman (5’4) prefers a tall man (6’) “Women on average were most satisfied with men men who were 8 inches taller. Men were most satisfied when the woman was only 3 inches shorter.” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:40 PM
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A man being attracted to another man isn’t natural either. Do you think incest and pedophilia are natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:38 PM
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Yes because you’re on a male majority sub. I am saying in general, as in society wide
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:37 PM
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Yes I agree we are not slaves to our biology but this is besides the point. Right now in society, women’s innate preferences are seen as more acceptable than men’s’, this is a double standard and it’s unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:37 PM
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So what, he’s entitled to his preference just like women are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:31 PM
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Idgaf about being accepted by others, I live my life how I want. What I am pointing out here is that there is a double standard in society where women’s preferences largely are accepted while men’s are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:30 PM
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Women’s innate preferences are more accepted than men’s innate preferences. Thats the double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:29 PM
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Dude idgaf what people think about me personally. I’m just pointing out this society wide bias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:27 PM
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That’s my point. Women’s preferences are more accepted than men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:26 PM
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No I don’t give a fuck in my personal life either. My point in this post is society wide most people have this unfair bias
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:25 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:23 PM
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I think the root problem is how accurate are those "biological studies" or were they just confirmation bias. Because the first generation of women truly able to make the choice of having children: are increasingly choosing to not have them to a point economists are panicking. Kinda weird right? The studies on what? The overwhelming majority of women are still having children, this is not a good argument But you get to decide what a deviant preference is? No I don’t decide what is deviant, statis…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:23 PM
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Lmao I agree that’s the textbook definition but it doesn’t get used the same way in dating. When women say they prefer tall men or rich men, do you think they’ll be willing to be with a 5’6 pizza delivery driver?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:42 PM
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Right but he never stated his preference. He is very quiet about that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:41 PM
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is he also a virgin? If you don’t hold yourself to the same standards you hold others too, people won’t respect your preferences So I shouldn’t respect women’s preferences for tall men if they’re not tall? So I shouldn’t respect women’s preferences for high status men if they’re not high status? So I shouldn’t respect women’s preferences for confident assertive men if they’re weak and insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:40 PM
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Is it weird when women want a guy who’s tall even though she’s not tall? Is it weird when a woman wants a guy who’s earns 6 figures even though she’s doesn’t earn 6 figures? Is it weird when women want strong confident men when she’s weak and insecure? This is exactly what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:37 PM
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That’s just as asinine as a woman saying she only wants wealthy men over 6’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:36 PM
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I said seen as valid (by society)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:35 PM
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You have excellent points, and you were interesting to read. Thank you ‘Men don’t want promiscuous women, because of paternity doubts’. This is likely very true. However! It’s just as true to say, women don’t want promiscuous players, because they won’t stick around to help raise their offspring. This is true but you are missing the forest from the trees. Men’s preference against promiscuous women is MUCH stronger than women’s preference against promiscuous men. I’m sure most women would more pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:34 PM
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The hypocrisy is what makes people mad. Like the hypocrisy Lisa Bilyeu and so many other short women have for height preferences for tall men? Women’s preferences are full of hypocrisy. Many want 6 figure earning money even though they don’t earn 6 figures. Many want high status men even though they’re low status. Many want confident men even though they’re insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:23 PM
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All preferences are valid. Great. Problem is society doesnt see it that way, especially for mens, which is the point of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:21 PM
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Ok cool but that’s not the point of this topic. The point is men’s innate mating preferences are seen as less valid than women’s’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:20 PM
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I agree, men are less pack oriented than women because men are stronger so they can afford to be lone wolves while women are weaker so they benefit from being in a pack. However there are tons of white knights who will attack men for their innate preferences too. Much more than women will attack other women for women’s innate preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:03 PM
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First of all, he never outright said he prefers young attractive women. Secondly, he does have a negative reputation amongst most women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:57 PM
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Agreed lol. I find it ironic how women politically are more pro LGBTQ people than men but as far as mate preferences goes women are FAR more discriminatory against LGBTQ people then men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:56 PM
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I don’t think men can state preferences that will be acceptable if they’re just “not be an ass about it”. If a celebrity man says he only likes young women with no experience, how do you think that will be received?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:54 PM
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I didn’t say people didn’t know. I just said there is a double standard of the societal acceptability of men’s vs women’s preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:52 PM
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I agree, that’s my approach. I just brought the topic in terms of how societies views this up for debate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:51 PM
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No lmao. A lot of people do care. A man who says he wants a a virgin will get ran up the flagpole for being sexist, misogynistic, predatory, immature, and has a small penis
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:50 PM
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First of all, he never outright said he prefers young attractive women. Secondly, he does have a negative reputation amongst most women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:46 PM
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That’s not a natural preference. People tend to attack unnatural/deviant preferences. The topic of this post is that society sees women’s natural evolved mating preferences as acceptable, but not mens’
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:45 PM
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Sure women get some criticism for their preferences, but men get MORE. If a celebrity man publicly says he wants a young attractive low n count woman, he will get CRUCIFIED. If a celebrity woman (like her) says she wants a wealthy man who is 6 ft tall, there is some criticism but not even close to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:41 PM
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Sure women get some criticism for their preferences, but men get MORE. If a celebrity man publicly says he wants a young attractive low n count woman, he will get CRUCIFIED. If a celebrity woman (like her) says she wants a wealthy man who is 6 ft tall, there is some criticism but not even close to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:41 PM
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There are a bunch of preferences that don’t relate to behavior. Like if a woman wants a man who is 6 ft tall, being 6 ft tall is not a behavior, it’s literally a preference. Linebackers are usually overweight, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:35 PM
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There is a difference between short and long term mating strategies. For short term mating, yes men tend to like sluts because they’re easy and sexually experienced. If you are trying to fill up a party, you want a ton of sluts, not virtuous church girls. For long term mating, men tend to not want sluts because subconsciously, investing in offspring of a promiscuous women invokes male paternal uncertainty. Most men would not marry a sex worker who’s been with lots of men in the past. The sources…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:31 PM
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Easy. Female hypergamy aka sexual selection to filter for the fittest male genetics to pass on so the species survive. Basically biology
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:59 PM
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The word “need” depends on the objective, it doesn’t automatically mean need for survival. If I say you need wheels to drive a car, that need has nothing to do with survival. In this context to have sexual intimacy, which is apart of the Maslow heirarchy of needs, you need to have a mate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:58 PM
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No because literally most feminists want men with traditional gender norms when choosing a man like the man being bigger, stronger, higher earning, higher status, etc. They want men, not women, to pay alimony, conscript in war, pay for the dates, etcHell just look at 50 shades of grey, women, including feminists, were gobbling that up even though most of the book went against egalitarianism values
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:57 PM
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everything is based again on how you personally defined the words. According to your definitions it is normal, according to the definitions of others it is not No, the words “normal, natural, and moral” are based on the actual definition the fact that this is natural is also just one of the theories of evolutionary psychology Yes, just like how gravity is a theory. Doesn’t mean gravity doesn’t exist I'm trying to explain that trying to reason objectively about things without moral judgments is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:46 AM
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Murders are not normal simply because most people don’t murder. However sometimes murders are natural because we have instincts to kill other people if they are a threat to our lives, security, property, etc. Murder can also be moral but depends on the context. This is reflected in our laws, military, etc. There is a distinction between what’s natural and what’s moral and what’s normal. You are just trying to mix them all together. Most celebrity men are married to women who are lower status tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:08 PM
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So you seriously think most male celebrities are not promiscuous and don’t cheat? I agree most women won’t put up with constant cheating, but that’s only for women with normal guys. If a woman gets with Chris Brown, I’m sure most would not leave if he cheats. Do you really think women get with Chris brown expecting him to be totally monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:57 PM
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It already is normal, lol. A celebrity man who hasn’t been promiscuous or cheating is an exception to the general rule, everybody know this. Ok so women are pieces of shits too then because they are innately hypergamous, even if they don’t actualize hypergamy. Anyways you agree that most women will choose Chris brown (because of his mate value). You just proved my earlier point of how women will choose a high mate value men in spite of his promiscuity because he has higher mate value
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:49 PM
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There are no studies on celebrity affairs, how am I supposed to substantiate this without anecdotal evidence. Anybody being intellectually honest knows that male celebrities are promiscuous like crazy and the ones in relationships usually cheat. Again, you are putting words in my mouth. I didn’t comment on the morality of male celebs cheating, I just said they usually do it because of biology. Just because an oncologist explain how cancer works, doesn’t mean oncologists think cancer is moral. Ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:02 PM
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So you think both men and women’s evolved mating strategies are immoral? Great, thanks for being consistent The thing about promiscuous men is that most of them are having sex with promiscuous women. In that case that wouldn’t cause other men to be single because they would get with those women after they’re fucked by the previous men I didn’t say what I was doing is morally right, I just explained my actions through science. I can’t say that a cheetah eating a warthog is necessarily moral, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:55 PM
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Most male celebrities “cheat” (really they probably just have an agreement or understanding the man will do what he’s evolved to do). I would definitely say that MOST male celebrities cheat, I just gave an example. You can add Justin Bieber, Neyo, the maroon 5 singer, and Kevin hart to that list. If they are A list celebrities in relationships, they probably have cheated. Do you not agree that the higher mate value a man is the more likely he can get away with cheating? Also when women dump men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:04 PM
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Ok if you think men are bad for having their innate mating strategy, I think women are bad for theirs too. Female hypergamy deprives large swaths of men from romantic opportunities and reproduction. What you find “disgusting” is indeed very subjective because that’s influenced by your innate mating strategy. Women aren’t driven to build harems, so I wouldn’t expect women to find them appealing. It’s like me as a man saying it’s “disgusting” to get penetrated, of course I will think that because …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:00 PM
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You think men are bad for having instincts they were born with? You yourself admitted you most desired a man 6’5 even though you don’t act on it. So why are men bad for having instincts that most don’t even act on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:34 AM
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I would rather fuck a 5'0 incel than a man with a high body count This isn’t true for the overwhelming majority of women though. Thats why Chris browns Instagram DMs have 10000X the amount of girls as a short incel Almost no woman is okay with cheating, that's what i'm saying Again, if the man is not high mate value. Because you would have to explain Beyonce, Hillary Clinton, melania trump, bill cosbys wife, and countless other women married to male celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:32 AM
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And most men are not promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:10 AM
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I’m sure they want that. But the point is that these women will marry Chris brown and Drake despite their crazy high body counts. Women like you tend to say “women don’t want high body count men either” but when a high mate value man comes along who has fucked tons of girls (precisely because he is so desirable), all that goes out the window. Don’t you see the paradoxical relationship between a man’s body count and his attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:03 AM
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It’s also impossible for most marriages to form to begin with with female hypergamy https://preview.redd.it/8o4dguv4h4jf1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a90507b3a71620c7cfee00e28f831534eb37178
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:52 AM
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and about 99% of women do not want to marry promiscuous men If this is true most women would not want to marry Chris brown or Drake or any male celebrity. See what you are missing is that in order for a man to be promiscuous, he has to be very attractive to women (because women are extremely selective compared to men). So it’s a paradox. What tends to happen is that the most attractive, desirable men are the most promiscuous. The least promiscuous men are the least desirable, least attractive me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:43 AM
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a man who leaves a woman with a child because he needs variety does a lot of harm. A particular woman who dates guys taller than her does not denies anyone reproduction, they can still find another woman. You just made a bunch of leaps. A man doesn’t have to leave women to have a bunch of kids by different women, just look at how they do it in the Bible or polygamous societies You also twisted what I said. There is relative and absolute height. Many women want men who are relatively taller (tall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:37 AM
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If you that that men and women are both hypocrites, wtf is the point in arguing this? Debatable but I think the woman who does that is worse. A woman who only dates tall men is filtering out average height and short men. This denies most men the ability to reproduce and have sexual intamicy, which is one of the Maslow heriarchy of needs so it is an important part of life men are getting deprived of. Do you have no empathy for the “invisible” men? https://preview.redd.it/ckk178gyl3jf1.jpeg?width=…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:57 AM
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You said that a woman should be with one man, that's why I answered you. I found it funny that you think that women should be monogamous but you yourself are not. But if you do not morally judge women who sleep with many men and do not tell them how to live, then you and I have nothing to argue about Ok I think this is settled then The children of a woman who was able to secretly cheat on her partner with a HiGh VaLuE male could have a genetic advantage. also an assumption that true monogamy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:44 AM
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Height is not hypergamy, I agree, it is a sexual preference. But you are proving my point. If women are allowed to have their evolved mating preferences that they act on, why is it not okay for men to do the same for their innate mating preferences? THIS is hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:29 AM
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PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:00 AM
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When did I say it was immoral for women to have casual sex? It seems you don’t understand innate biological mating strategies. If a woman has sex with 100 men in a decade vs one, she will not have any more offspring. If a man has sex with 100 women in one decade vs one, he will have potentially 99 more offspring. Thats why promiscuity is not in women’s evolved mating strategy because it doesn’t provide any reproductive benefit When I’m talking about what’s “right or wrong” I’m speaking from a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:33 AM
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You pointed out extreme examples of hypergamy, rich men and 6’5 men are like 2% of the population. Most women are still hypergamous even without the 6 6’s standards. Let me make this easier to prove, would you be willing to be with a guy who is shorter and lower earning than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:17 AM
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I'm not arguing with you about this, Cuz you know I’m right. you continue to hide behind biology, pretending that you are not capable of conscious decisions, and your decisions are a magical call of nature and not the actions of a person who understands what he is doing Ok let’s entertain this. Men are bad for acting on their evolved mating strategies. Ok now let’s look at women. Women are STILL persuing their evolved mating strategy of hypergamy. Women are rejecting men for being not being high…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:35 AM
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Ok I’ll give you a more realistic example 1/do you want to have a garbage man pick up your garbage? 2/do you want to be a garbage man/woman? And exactly, I agree the priest is a hypocrite if he practices homosexuality even though he thinks it should be forbidden for everyone. This is not the same as this case because I’m saying it’s in men’s innate mating strategy to fuck a ton of girls, but it’s not women’s innate mating strategy to get fucked by tons of guys. Why? Simply because of biology: th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:31 AM
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The innate sexual strategies of men and women are different. Often conflict with each other. I keep telling you this. That’s like saying it’s hypocritical to have a predator and prey existing in the same enviorment because of the fact they have conflicting goals. In the competitions of survival and reproduction, there are winners and losers. For some people to win, there has to be people who lose. In order for a lion to survive, a bunch of wildabeasts have to die. In order for a woman to be hype…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:21 AM
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That’s not “using” then. The priest example is a bad one because in Christianity, homosexuality is prohibited for everyone. In this case, I’m saying it’s in men’s innate mating strategy to be promiscuous Answer this, 1/do you want a military for defense? 2/do you want your son (or future son) to be conscripted into a brutally violent war? If your answers are different, is it hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:11 AM
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No im not admitting to using women, because women want to have sex too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:52 PM
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No it’s not hypocritical. The different sexes have different innate sexual strategies, often at the expense of other people in both the same and opposite sex. You know I’m right, that’s why you can’t defend the logic so you are resorting to personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:51 PM
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What’s good for the goose is NOT good for the gander. For example, female hypergamy, while good for the individual female who is able to attain that hypergamous relationship, is not good for others in the marketplace like the invisible men or the other females who uncessfully compete for the same men https://preview.redd.it/21omjz6bn2jf1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=397d1a159707005f65c87faf37c4ec145d382919
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:43 PM
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When I was in school the popular girls were all above average in physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:18 AM
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Do you think most men would do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:22 PM
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Would you go on a date with a woman who looks like Woopi Goldberg if you guys had chemistry like no other girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:01 PM
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Because “chemistry” and compatibility is contingent on baseline attractiveness. Most guys are not this illogical. Men know that they would not want to be with a woman who look like Woopi Goldberg even if they had the most chemistry and compatibility out of all girls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:35 PM
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I didn’t ask
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:56 PM
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That’s based on your opinion. What I’m talking about is the marketplace’s ratings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:14 PM
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Dude eating ass is submissive and humiliating. Logically I can understand why most women don’t like to get their ass ate, because women are hypergamous they need to look up to the man to feel sexually attracted to him. An ass eater is the opposite lmao. You’ll have better luck asking a woman to eat yours than eat hers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:12 PM
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You don’t have to rate people, people are rated based on market value. Do you agree that some people are more or less attractive than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:21 PM
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Maybe temporarily, but long term women want relationships. Do you agree that woman on average can get men of higher attractiveness for casual sex but not as high for relationships? For example if a woman is a 5, on a 1-10 scale of attractiveness, she can get smashed by a guy who is a 7 but for a marriage she can only get let’s a guy who is a 5
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:21 PM
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Women will typically settle for a man when she’s looking for a relationship, but typically won settle when looking for casual sex. The reason is due to supply and demand, there are less men looking for relationships than casual sex, also more women are looking for relationships than casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:54 PM
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Lol you don’t get it. Those men who get laid while being honest are not getting laid because they’re honest, they’re getting laid because they’re attractive. Unnattractive men (which is most men due to female hypergamy) won’t get laid as much if they’re honest, that’s why they tend to deceive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:37 PM
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Because most women are looking for relationships. And the few times women are looking for casual sex, they are extremely selective only going for men who are above them in attractiveness so the average to below average man feels like his best shot at getting casual sex is to act like he wants a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:32 PM
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Nobody was arguing that. What I am disputing is your claim that it’s about this “chemistry”, but I’m telling you most men get disqualified on metrics of baseline attractiveness, like height, before “chemistry” is even a factor
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:54 PM
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The problem is many times the woman will only be with a man for to purposes of a long term relationship. What some call the “beta bucks”, women won’t even be with them to begin with for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:52 PM
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Can you answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:36 PM
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It’s visualizing the absolute distribution too. Idk what you’re trying to prove. The bottom line is according to the bumble data, most women don’t want men under 6 ft (which is like 85% of men being eliminated purely based on height). This is in no way men comparable to men not wanting flat chested women, but the average woman has average sized breasts which the average man would find acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:35 PM
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No that filter was designed to filter out men who don’t meat the requirements. Stop playing mental gymnastics. We all know the difference between a preference and a requirement. If an employer says “college degrees required”, is that a requirement or preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:32 PM
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No, if it was truly a preference it would not be a be requirement. If a job opening says “college degree preferred” that is different from “college degree required”. This is common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:25 PM
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Relatively, yes, 30% is 50% greater than 20%. Absolutely, no, 30% is only 10% greater than 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:23 PM
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This is not merely a preference, this is filtering. A preference means you are still open to others, but a filter is a requirement. Regardless, what I said is the outcome of female preferences is that most men are going to be deemed unnatractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:13 PM
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The average woman does not want the average man. The average height woman, doesn’t want an average height man. The average income woman, does not want an average height man. This is why most men are unnattractive to most women https://preview.redd.it/8fhn6w4k9thf1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6487d58da461ef4bc9714c9ace1cc7e1e590f8a1
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:06 PM
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This “precipitous spike” went from from 20% to 30% from 5’9 to 5’10 😂 meaning women don’t even want a slightly above average height man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:04 PM
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No it doesn’t. Because denigrating someone has nothing to do with wanting to fuck them. It would be hypocritical to say you don’t wanna fuck but then you go ahead and fuck, because they are both the same topic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:19 PM
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<image> Did you even actually read the graph? Average height in America is 5’9 (which is taller than like 90% of women), yet that was only acceptable to about ~20% women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:18 PM
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Doesn’t matter. You can denigrate a woman and want to have sex with her at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:16 PM
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Ok but all that is contingent on baseline attractiveness (such as height)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:12 PM
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Men (generally) aren’t the ones saying that it’s all about chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:09 PM
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How can I find these “female hoes”? (Just so I know where not to look)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:59 PM
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That’s not hypocritical though. You can critique women while also wanting to fuck em
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:59 PM
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It contradicts what you said earlier about it being about chemistry. If women only have chemistry with attractive guys, then it’s not about chemistry, it’s about attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:58 PM
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🎯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:56 PM
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Fuckboys by definition do not want relationships. If you are describing men who want relationships as fuckboys, you are using the word fuckboys incorrectly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:51 PM
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Well said. You write like those original contributors on the red pill sub. What I find interesting is all these anti red pill women using nothing but red pill terminology. They believe in it while trying to distance themselves. This “vetting system” is a joke. In real life, the way women vet men is #1 by their attractiveness and #2 willingness to commit. That simple. The reason why this usually doesn’t work is because the men who they’re attracted to usually don’t commit because they have too ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:48 PM
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Women: It’s about chemistry and mutual like! Also women: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:38 PM
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They’re not mutually exclusive. You can complain about women’s mating behavior while leveling up and fucking a bunch of them. This is what Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines does
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:36 PM
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This doesn’t matter to fuckboys. They (like most men) are just trying to get laid, so if they are successfully getting laid they don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:35 PM
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Simply to bring awareness to everyone. Women will accuse men of being players, cheaters, and non comittal. But really the 80/20 rule shows that most men are not players and cheaters and commitment phobic, rather they are invisible and 80% of women just chase the top 20% of men so those minority of men are players and cheaters and non commital because they are given so much choice by hypergamous women. Of course this doesn’t apply to everyone but this is the trend <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:34 PM
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Exactly. Women will say “I had sex with that guy on the first date but I’m making you wait because I like you more” or “I used to have threesomes with men I didn’t really like but now I won’t do threesomes with you because I like you more”. No awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:28 PM
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Which is what most men anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:27 PM
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If a girl wants sex on the first date, is she a fuck girl? If a girl says she isn’t sure she wants a relationship, is she a fuck girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:26 PM
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I think the romantic connection that you make through church might just be a bit stronger There’s no evidence for that. A connection is something that can be built, doesn’t matter where it starts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:42 PM
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Ok but if a man goes into a space WITH ulterior motives (like a rooftop patio) and talks to 12 different women, he’s more likely to find a romantic connection, and quick too. Thats all I’m saying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:03 PM
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The whole post is about men cold approaching women for romantic opportunities. The commenter above advised to meet women at church, but I’m saying as a man that’s an extremely inefficient place to get women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:50 PM
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Going to a church is the last place I’d go to pick up women. What a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:33 PM
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A church is not even meant to be a social mixer, it’s primarily supposed to be for worship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:09 PM
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Nobody said average guys get nothing. Red pillers say most women aren’t interested in average guys. Which is true. Average guys still have access to below average women. Now below average men are in trouble because there’s not much other pickings. I’m pretty sure women generally don’t wanna be providers for men long term, seems to be a big sticking point amongst women. That’s why women are a lot more likely to divorce their husbands after receiving a big raise or promotion. Women are also twice …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:12 PM
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Then why are emotionally unavailable players more successful than emotionally vulnerable nice guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:09 PM
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I’m not necessarily arguing against that. I’m just arguing that men and women have desires, but most settle because they can’t obtain what they really desire
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:49 PM
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Same thing applies to women. Most women not appealing enough to get tall, handsome, rich, high status men. The most popular romance book ever was 50 shades of grey, Christian Grey was over 6 ft tall, a billionaire, successful, and handsome. Most women cannot attain even a similar man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:45 PM
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I “lost” my virginity at 15 too, that doesn’t mean a man is a Chad. A high mate value man is determined by the attractiveness of the women he is able to pull. Not what age you first had sex or even how many women you had sex with. Because if you only have sex with 3’s you are still low mate value man. The fact that your man doesn’t make much money already tells me most women find him very desirable, because women over the age of 24 put a high degree of a man’s attractiveness based on income. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:27 PM
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Ok but I’m sure he’s not a billionaire, very handsome, etc I have a few dozen under my knotch count, mostly girls in their 20s, so I’m still working on it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:07 PM
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100 was a hypothetical too. You said you want above average height men, most men are not above average height. So stop fucking whining, most people don’t get what they really want in life, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:02 PM
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I said I would RATHER have sex with 100 women than 1 woman a hundred times. Don’t you understand that is a hypothetical. What women will settle for is nowhere close to a 5’9 forklift operator You women can save your emotional energy and skip men, just read romance novels to get what you really want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:48 PM
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That was a hypothetical example. I don’t even have time to fuck 200 different women. I want variety, like most men, but I didn’t say I wanted hundreds of women. Statistically most men watch porn, so yes. Just like how most women read or watch eroticas and romances that satisfy their unrealistic desires. Per your logic, men have no reason to marry either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:38 PM
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I said that men wanted youth and variety. You moved the goalposts to every man wanting a hundred barely legal teens
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:27 PM
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are you genuinely okay? i told you several times I DONT AGREE WITH YOU, its just YOUR OPINION and you’re acting like its “the general consensus of women”. No no no, you answered what YOU thought Chris browns value is. IDGAF about what YOU think of him. I’m asking what does THE MARKET (most women) think. **For the fifth time, do you think MOST WOMEN would rather be with Chris brown or the average man?****PLEASE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!! your opinion and feelings ≠ the general consensus. I agree. I told y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:16 PM
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If your theories are correct, men are settling to a much, much higher degree than women, will never be happy and maybe women need to stop the fantasy of a long, happy marriage altogether. Disagree. If your theory is correct, Most women want 6’4 handsome billionaires (like in the most popular romance book in history 50 shades of grey), so most women will never be happy in a marriage because most men are far from Christian grey, they are average height, average looking, average earning men. 5’9 dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:10 PM
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Yes I’m speaking on what I believe represents women’s consensus. But then I asked you (a female) to confirm, but you ignored the question three times. Got something to hide? For the fourth time, does Chris brown have more mating marketplace value than the average guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:01 PM
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I said they don’t care much about marriage. I didn’t say they didn’t wanna be married in the FUTURE. Big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:59 PM
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Yes, straight women like tall and strong men…men are tall and strong. Yo I’m really questioning your intelligence here. You are conflating “tall” with “average height male”. There is a difference here that you are trying to avoid. The average height man is taller than the average height woman. However the average height woman does not prefer the average height man, the average height woman prefers a tall man. Most men are not tall men, most men are average height men. Please comprehend this befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:58 PM
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Six foot tall (5 feet 11.61 inches actually) is a median height for a man of my ethnicity, so my preference for 5’10” to 6’ is actually quite average. Idgaf about your ethnicity or your height. Stop making these irrelevant arguments. We are talking about the marketplace here. In America (the country the study was conducted and probably where you’re from), the average women’s height is 5’4 and the average man’s height is 5’9 Here you go again, not adressing things that need to be addressed, and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:49 PM
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Being tall and strong is a dimorphic trait. You have this weird habit where you ignore the questions I ask, then address questions I don’t ask. I didn’t ask if height and strength are dimorphic. Also idc if women’s attraction to men with more resources and status is hardwired or not. But the bottom line is women in real life do tend to want men with more money and status. You are trying to use assortative mating data to prove that women don’t have preferences for higher value men driven by hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:40 PM
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It’s not my personal taste that sets the marketplace, it’s the consensus of the opposite sex. You ruling out Chris brown in the mating market place is fine for yourself, but you are not the marketplace, so you don’t determine his market value. The consensus of women determine his market value. Do you agree that Chris brown has higher mate value (in the marketplace not in your opinion) than than the average guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:27 PM
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The evidence is the tinder swipe rate by gender. “ Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Most men want most women. Most women do not want most men. I told you the hinge data is not representative of how much women men are open to because men get a maximum of 8 likes per day. Men would like way more women if they could, and many of those would be more average attractiveness women. They’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:13 PM
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The average male height in America is 5’9 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/body-measurements.htm) so that is about 20% on this graph. I’m sure more than 20% of men would right swipe on 38 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:04 PM
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It was always a masculine field, it’s just that in an exceptional period of war, women were called to do masculine duties while the men were fighting overseas If you think that gamers are 50/50 men/women, then that just speaks to your intelligence tbh I’m not even gonna debate this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:02 PM
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Nice guys get rejected like mad they are probably invisible to you so you don’t notice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:01 PM
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If women have preferences for a tall men, one somewhat taller than her is probably someone she can feel genuine attraction to. Wrong. The research says the average woman prefers men who is 8 inches taller than her. On average, men are about 5 inches taller than women. Meaning a woman who is 5’4 wants a man who is 6’ but the average man’s height is 5’9. Women want taller men much more than men want shorter women “Women on average were most satisfied with men men who were 8 inches taller. Men were…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:00 PM
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Wow, again not answering the actual question. Reread the questions. I didn’t ask if women wanted men taller than them, I asked if the average woman wants a man who is above average in height. Is money and status dimorphic traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:52 PM
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What I said was just parroting what you said in reverse. You twisted my question. I said the average height woman prefers a tall man. Not a taller man. For example a 5’4 woman prefers a 6’ man over a 5’6 man. Right? And also when I said strong, I also meant mentally/emotionally strong ie confidence. Most women don’t want a man who cries as often as them, right? I don’t understand what you’re crying about. Men have their preferences, some of which are unfair. Women have their preferences, some of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:32 PM
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High value men tend to have low investment sex with attractive women. That is a good representation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:26 PM
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Ok I don’t deny I said that. I said many times men are hardwired to want to spread their genetics, billions and billions of sperm are produced in each man every day. You keep ignoring my question no point in arguing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:25 PM
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Did you even read the article? It said the computer coding had a lot of women in the start only because this was during ww2 when men were mostly overseas and women were called to work in industries. Obviously during wartime is an exceptional time period where gender norms may bend just for sheer survival. Gaming in total is not even close to 50/50. There are few games where women come close to being 50% of gamers, but those are usually child like and not violent games. Still most gamers are male…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:24 PM
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Women: “Men want younger women!! Bohoo that’s so unfair” Also women: https://preview.redd.it/r21jrapv5ahf1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74c9720860f69ae19b60161766a2f8c670cdd9a3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:51 PM
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No I mean the average woman wants a man who’s tall, handsome, rich, high status, etc while the average man wants the average woman. Men can’t grow taller. Men can’t grow their bald heads. Men can’t get handsomer. Men’s money and status is limited by the country they’re from. A goat farmer in Yemen doesn’t have the economic oppertunities that men elsewhere have, but a Yemeni woman can be beautiful and be wifed up by a millionaire in a first world country if she’s beautiful enough. Also things lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:27 PM
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When tf was computer programming and gaming female majority? It has always been male majority
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:23 PM
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You totally misconstrued what I said. I never said all men wanted abc or all women want xyz. I said all men are hardwired to want abc and all women are hardwired to want xyz. Massive difference. Most people can’t achieve what they’re hardwired to be driven to. Therefore people adjust their preferences to their reality. I didn’t ask for your personal details, I specifically asked for the average woman’s preferences. So let me rephrase: Do you agree that the average height woman wants a man who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:23 PM
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The average woman is MORE opposed to being with the average man than the average man to the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:16 PM
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Are you trolling? Most women rate most men (80%) as unattractive <image> https://web.archive.org/web/20120723173702/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ “ Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Women are way more selective than men. The average woman doesn’t want the average man. But men do want the average woman. The average woman wants an above average man. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:14 PM
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Thanks for that suggestion, I just ordered the Creepers. I bought cheap ones online but I did not like them and I think I have really small pinky toes because they did not fit well on that toe. As far as correcting the overlapping toe, I’m not too optimistic about stretching/exercising. My view is that the toe needs constant long term pressure to reform the joints in order to fix the deformity. Stretching and exercising is just short term force so the toe joints will just go back to their deform…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:37 PM
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Most men don’t like surgically enhanced women. And you might have a different taste but on average men are drawn more to the fertility cues that a 20 year old has (even if she’s a bit overweight) than a 40 year old naturally has lost to an extent. That’s why there are a significantly lot more 20 year old porn stars than 40 year old porn stars
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:02 PM
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The article you linked has major sampling issues. Furthermore, specialists use words in ways typical of their field. Scientists have a precise definition of life, and it does not involve consciousness or personhood. Fundamentally, when life begins is a moral question, not a scientific one. You are not going to convince me that abortion is the killing of a human life. We may have to agree to disagree on this point. I do not think fetuses before the point of viability are persons. You can disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:57 PM
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Fine we can disagree about semantics. But the bottom line is the average man would like the average woman. The average woman would like an above average man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:31 PM
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Revealed mate choice is that 70% of men are currently in relationships and those men come from all over your 1-10 spectrum. Yeah but that’s not what they want. Thats what they can get. Revealed mate choice shows the average man is with an overweight woman who is a 5. Do you really think most men prefer overweight 5’s? You will likely resort to claiming that those women are not into their men, but will lack the evidence to prove it. Most women rate most men (80%) as unattractive https://preview.r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:29 PM
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Again, you’re not answering my question. Ok, now women are hardwired to be driven to want tall, rich, high status, handsome men, right? I didn’t ask what women typically end up marrying. I asked what are their preferences. Obviously not everybody can get what they prefer. Same reason I told you earlier how men want various young attractive women but in reality 98% of them don’t. Do you see this analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:27 PM
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Yeah but the increase in abortion is totally unrelated to abortion bans
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:25 PM
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These are Instagram models and social media influencers, not sec workers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:22 PM
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The point is that feminism liberates women to leave abusive men and causes rates of abuse to go down. Ok but all these liberated women with money and status are still flocking to men like Andrew Tate who is believed to be a sex trafficker, rapist, pedo, etc. Why do you think this is? Do you think Jordan Peterson’s daughter is a feminist? Don’t know. But I do know she does not have to identify as being a feminist so enjoy the liberation that feminism gave her. She would not be able to make her ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:17 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/eh7rx2p5u7hf1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a11d253c60bb3a87fc5ad6d2e8024e6d4ea19a0
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:02 PM
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No but that’s not the point. The point is women will often stay with attractive men despite them not being good partners. Men usually tell women to choose men in this aspect. Can you respond to why all these high status western women are having sex with Andrew Tate? You made the claim that he moved to Romania to prey on poor women, but I nuked that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:00 PM
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Answer my question. Stop arguing while covering your ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:56 PM
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Thanks to feminism, Rihanna made her own money (tons of it) and she still choose to stay with a man who beat her up. Thanks to feminism, Canadian based political pundit Lauren Southern with upwards of a million YouTube subscribers, flew out to Romania to party and have sex with Andrew Tate (https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/rightwing-influencer-lauren-southern-alleges-she-was-raped-by-andrew-tate-in-2018/news-story/6c972b12f0ec55281d00afb14493508a?amp) Thanks to feminism, US …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:51 PM
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Ok, now women are hardwired to be driven to want tall, rich, high status, handsome men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:28 PM
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No point at all! Carry on. You are trying to make a point while ignoring the counterpoint. Your basically arguing while closing your ears
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:19 PM
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Please enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:14 PM
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Hypergamy is about innate drive ie preference. Women are driven to by hypergamous, but they can’t always realize hypergamous relationships because they are limited by their own attractiveness Dating app statistics support female hypergamy because it can be seen that most of the women are swiping on a minority of the men who are the most desirable. Meanwhile men comparatively swipe on a larger array of women of more varying attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:14 PM
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Lmao, did you even read the report 😂😂😂 They said the reason for why abortion rates increased was due to broader availability of telehealth for medication abortion and more financial support, not due to abortion bans
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:11 PM
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Women think their relationship marketplace value is higher than it really is because they have short term sex with higher value men in the sexual marketplace. Scott Galloway (who is a Democrat) explains it well in the clip near the start of this video https://youtu.be/xAiNAgM0lfA?si=ju_ZNHMAfZ2opwKA
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:08 PM
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I think you are confusing different things. When it comes to attraction cues (like men’s status, looks, money, etc), women are very much selective. But when it comes to relationship qualities (like being monogamous, not a cheater, not an abuser, not a not being a narcissist, not being toxic), this is where men tell women to “choose better” because women tend to prioritize men’s attractiveness at the cost of relationship qualities. For example, a woman will get with Chris brown, knowing full well…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:50 PM
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Go reread our comments. You said pro life laws caused more abortions, I asked for proof
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:11 PM
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You’re proving that Shannon sharpe is really a victim , not a predator
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:01 PM
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This coming from the guy who says all men only want harems of young fresh meat? lol. You and every other man only want to bang 100’s of women, the younger the better. Ok but I also said that even though most men want this, they realistically cannot get it. Women want tall, handsome, rich, high status men but clearly most can’t attain such (for long term relationship) so they settle for a man who’s closer to average What’s the point of marrying at all? You think any woman wants to marry some guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:58 PM
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We are in total agreement. No we’re not. You said women don’t want sex as much as men. I disagree, I think fertile women do want sex as much as men but in different context. They can’t get the kind of sex they want, loving and committed. I agree with this, but the reason for this is because of women’s excessive hypergamy You “red pill”, porn brained neck beards, spewing that banging hundreds of women like their idol Andrew Tate is their true goal in life Biologically this is men’s’ innate reprod…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:51 PM
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The evidence for him committing rape is not strong. It’s mostly testimony from exes. But the second part you called him a pedophile, you’re going to have to substantiate this. There has been no allegations he had sex with underage girls
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:37 PM
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The average 20 year old is not much overweight. People usually gain weight as they get older. Are you a man or a woman. I suspect you are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:35 PM
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It’s not rage bait. Ending the life of a live human is by many definitions murder
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:34 PM
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No it’s an intelligent point. Answer my question, you’re the one avoiding the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:33 PM
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You don’t think women are much more selective than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:33 PM
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No. I do not. I think a fetus has the potential to develop into a human. … I do not think abortion is murder Human begins at conception according to 96% of biologists “Biologists from 1,058 academic institutions around the world assessed survey items on when a human's life begins and, overall, 96% (5337 out of 5577) affirmed the fertilization view” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36629778/ However, I am saddened more by mothers who neglect and abuse their living children. I don't want women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:31 PM
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There’s no proof that’s related to abortion. In fact, European countries have even lower birth rates while having pro choice laws
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:21 AM
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Maternal and infant deaths aren’t murder
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:20 AM
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Wow that’s good for you happy to hear that. I bought correct toe spacers and a pair of Lems but I haven’t started wearing them regularly. Reason being my overlapping toe (my fifth sits on top of the 4th digit) on one side. When I put on the correct toes, it ends up distalizing the fourth and fifth digit up and down more than it pushes the them apart side to side, meaning the pinky toe mostly just gets pushed upwards. I fear this is going to make the overlapping toe worse so paused my plans. Do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:20 AM
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You are conflating different things. Yes most people are average and end up with average people. But women are way more selective and have a drive to want to be with a more attractive man than themselves (hypergamy). The dating app data proves this, “Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104. The average man is much more open to being with an average woman than an average woman wanting to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:03 AM
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Deal. I’m not defending male hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:31 AM
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Proof of pro life laws causing substantially more abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:30 AM
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Glad to hear you are pro male. However there are a few flaws in your arguments I have always been very career-driven and make a lot more money than my partner (not that it matters; I just don't care how much my partner earns). No offense, but do you think most men would rate you below average, average, or above average in physical attractiveness compared to other women (in your age cohort not trying to compare you to young women)? I don't think abortion is murder. Abortion is the intention termi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:30 AM
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Murdering humans is line that should be drawn before free government entitlements, agreed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:16 AM
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Women do things that are bad for society but do you hold them to the same standard? Such as hyper hypergamy (which leaves most men invisible), abortion (which kills live humans), and reward emotionally unavailable guys who display dark triad traits (harmful to society) with casual sex, screwing over empathetic nice guys. I’m getting tired of these double standards where men have to be moral and contain their biology but when are allowed to go feral because it’s “women’s empowerment”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:41 PM
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No because he will spend close to life in prison, I’d rather go through a pregnancy than
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:37 PM
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I didn’t say they were equal, but men do pay the price (literally) for creating a child. It’s not our fault that biologically the woman is the one who bears the offspring. We literally send men to jail who don’t pay child support, you are not living in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:36 PM
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Murdering humans is line that should be drawn before free healthcare, agreed? Also those things you mentioned (clothes, healthcare, food, shelter) are all things that for 99% of human history has not been provided by a government. All of Africa doesn’t have free any of those things but they are still surviving. Sure there lifespans are a bit lower on average, but again the right to life is more important than the right to an easy high quality life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:34 PM
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You were just yapping about brain development blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:08 PM
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Obviously there is prioritizies to how much you want to protect people. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Drawing the line at not killing humans is a good start. Free health care blah blah blah is less of a priority
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:07 PM
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Yes they want sex but are picky about it, can’t get the sex they want in the right context
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:59 PM
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Ok feminist. You win. We men will stop being attracted to young, fertile, attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:59 PM
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Most people would rather go to bed hungry than be killed without consent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:58 PM
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It gives her a better insight than most people because she sees the behind the scenes data on swiping/liking data. She probably can see emperically that women are swiping on men above their attractiveness leagues in a hypergamous fashion https://preview.redd.it/34b0mxb323hf1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea1111e574ce35a0a914a33fdcef04ea9ad55be5
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:57 PM
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Of course a feminist woman is accusing a man of rape with no credible evidence and being a pedophile with no accessions of him having sex with underage girls
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:56 PM
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Men are already punished with excessive child support
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:55 PM
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What you are doing is a crime. I’m reporting you to law enforcement. Once again, two wrongs don’t make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:55 PM
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Either way they want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:54 PM
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Dude, guys don’t wants a promiscuous woman for long term mating. Men want their wives to be pure but freaky only for him. “Freak in sheets, lady in the streets” is literally what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:53 PM
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Red pill is not anti-monogamy. Red pill is just pro facts regarding human mating. Some red pillers choose relationships while others choose to life like a bachelor. Andrew Tate has multiple wives. Myron Gaines has a girlfriend. See?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:51 PM
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Because that same man will get less attractive as he gets old, bald, weak, slow, and less mentally sharp. She will probably find him less attractive too. So they will decline together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:50 PM
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it’s not even something they have to worry about. Ok old women don’t have to worry about being old then. the men who are short can fix everything else about themselves. Ok old women can fix everything else about themselves. you guys say they have no value, they’ve hit the wall, you call them hags, etc You guys call them manlets, say they are only good for friends, say they have napoleon complex anytime they get frustrated over issues that have nothing to do with height
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:49 PM
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That’s not the fault of the law, it’s the fault of the enforcement of the law
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:46 PM
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Yeah I’m not defending them on that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:23 PM
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Men’s attraction has nothing to do with women’s (alleged) brain development
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:22 PM
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Just like how people get murdered even though murder is against the law
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:12 PM
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There’s no credible evidence he committed rape and he hasn’t even been accusing of having sex with underage girls
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:05 PM
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I agree that monogamy is man made (but women wanted it as well for their own security and parental investment). But just because something is man made doesn’t mean it’s bad. A car is manmade but nobody thinks we should get rid of cars. Monogamy takes work (on both ends) because it’s unnatural but is overall good for society and productivity so men don’t constantly have to figure out how to get laid, which is what the other animals in nature do when they are not looking for food and running from …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:46 PM
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No it’s just that in matriarchal countries women spend half of their reproductive lifespans in schools and riding the cock caurocel. In undeveloped countries women get married shortly after puberty and have no birth control so they are constantly getting impregnated
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:44 PM
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Women should find a husband as young as they legally can and have kids and grow old with that same man. Just like the good old days. Being a sex worker is not good for women or society, finding a beta providers for the sake of security is not fulfilling either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:43 PM
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Men can’t control their height, you completely omitted that. About 1/3 of men are short, which is the same proportion of old women . There are many tik tok trends of bashing short men, haven’t seen any bashing old women. I know there are some mean men, but women are no better, they don’t have any moral superiority over men. That’s what I’m disagreeing with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:41 PM
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Sure, it’s women’s innate biology. When women mates value surpass the man’s, they have a tendency to want to monkey branch because they feel like they can do better hypergamy wise. For example, women are a lot more likely to divorce their husbands after receiving a big raise or promotion. Women are also twice as likely to divorce a man after winning a political election or being promoted to CEO. (https://www.businessinsider.com/research-shows-women-more-likely-get-divorced-after-promotion-2020).…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:37 PM
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Women make fun of men for being low status, having low resources. Women make songs like “bills bills bills”, “no scrubs”, “no romance without finance”. Women make fun of short men. Men don’t have it easy either, women aren’t any less brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:35 PM
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Because women have a very strong biological drive to reproduce (hence why the overwhelming majority of women have kids by menopause even though they say men ain’t shit)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:32 PM
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Because women brought those alive humans into the world by their own volition (99% of the time)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:30 PM
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How do you know they aren’t looking? No evidence for that. Most likely they can’t get one because there is not enough desirable men for all these women who have these hypergamous standards https://preview.redd.it/3p051znmb2hf1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4afff1a5c3c09b248b43cf19b8f465a31ce1e8fb
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:29 PM
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It’s not old men affected by male loneliness crisis, it’s primarily the young men, because of young women’s hypergamy and choosiness selecting men with higher status, wealth, etc which takes time for men to accumulate. Don’t lie, most older women are not happy about older men dating much younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:28 PM
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It’s a win for her but a loss for human rights. Also she didn’t win $50M, she sued for $50M but they settled confidentiality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:22 PM
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He is high value. Men will fuck almost anything fertile. 99% of men will fuck that girl (if they could with low investment). A mid 20 year old is more attractive than a attractive 40 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:20 PM
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Did you also graduate from Harvard? Did you work at Google? Are you a director at Hinge or any comparable job position?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:53 PM
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Logan Ury has a Bachelor's degree in psychology from Harvard University. She also worked at Google's behavioral science team, The Irrational Lab. Currently, she is the Director of Relationship Science at the dating app Hinge
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:46 PM
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Those clips are multiple social scientists on multiple podcasts saying the same thing. Scientists are evidence They do want to date me, the problem is they want me to be monogamous
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:25 PM
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Those women are probably holding off sex for a relationship with a man who she wants and also wants her back for a relationship. They still want to have sex, but in a committed relationship ship a man who satisfies her hypergamy. Go tell men you don’t believe in true human love , but rather a conditional love based on their financial earnings, social status, height, face, etc. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:23 PM
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Name one society out of all the examples I gave the reverse is true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:19 PM
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Here’s supporting evidence. many non red pill social scientists are also echoing the same thing. Some dub it as the “high heel effect” or put it in different words, but the bottom line is that there is not enough desirable enough men for every woman who wants one, which is causing the men at the top to have disproportionately high access to women, many women not finding a monogamous mate due to excessive hypergamy, and a large percentage of men who are invisible to men because they don’t satisfy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:18 PM
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Sometimes laws don’t work as written. Look at emit till and oj Simpson. Exceptions don’t break the general rule
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:16 PM
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The graphic is an illustration, it may be a bit off but that’s the overal market trend. Women are hypergamous (seeking to mate up) and way more selective than men I’m interested in variety. I’d rather have sex with 100 different attractive women than the same average woman 200 times
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:38 PM
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Medically necessary abortions is protected by the federal constitution Two wrongs don’t make a right so idc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:36 PM
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Its just an illustration, but I get what you meab
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:36 PM
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Most women are still having sex. Why? I didn’t say casual sex, I just said sex in general. Sex is a biological thing that basically all sexually mature animals are driven to want. Obviously most women would prefer sex from a committed mab
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:35 PM
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Like women are known for accusing men for money. Give men a break
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:32 PM
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When they are ovulating, yes I do. Women might not gloat it but they are just as likely to do it as a man who is given easy sex from a woman outside of his relationship That chart supports my point, more sexless men than women. So women want sex more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:12 PM
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No I lost my virginity and have more sexual success women now than I could’ve dreamed of 5 years ago Being an alpha male has nothing to do with relationship status. Simply put, alpha males are the dominant men at the top who control the most share of power, resources, and female sexual access. Some alpha males are in relationships (many have side pieces), others are single banging chicks left and right. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:10 PM
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Murdering other humans is not a human right
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:05 PM
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Ok Einstein
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:05 PM
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Men who have sex with consenting adults are not predators, you are MAD calling him names unjustifiably. If anything she is the predator who extorted him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:04 PM
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Last I checked women want to have sex too 😂 most adult women aren’t virgins. The incentive is simple biology. If yall don’t want relationships and marriages so bad, why do most of yall keep hammering us for them? By that logic, why should we men accept relationships from yall if yall would rather be with a man who is richer, higher status, taller, higher mate value, etc if you could attract such man for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:02 PM
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Redpillers want to hate women, use them, and discard them. I’m a redpiller and I don’t want to hate, use, or discard women. It sucks for them that this will never work. It worked for me. The reason why it worked is because I took advice from men who are successful in getting women (like Andrew Tate) rather than women (who usually just say to be more emotionally vulnerable and a nice guy, even though they usually give their bodies to men who are the total opposite)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:58 PM
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Last I checked it’s women who want relationships and married more than men. I’ve never heard a man put an ultimatum on a woman, it’s always the reverse Men want variety, but are still willing to be in a committed relationship with one. It’s due to biology, nothing personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:51 PM
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To goal of red pillers is to get more access to women (which he is successful in). I just disproved your silly comment now all you have is strawmans
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:49 PM
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You are construing red pill and the red pill community. The red pill community has some men who are bitter and extremists. However the red pill fundamentals are still true, it’s mostly based on biology and evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:23 PM
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Men are more willing to date down in attractiveness than women (because women are hypergamous). I’m not doubting a 5’4 can get laid easily, but they are probably with below average looking women (unless he has a lot of money or status)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:18 PM
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Is Andrew Tate (the guy who fucks Instagram models and high status women) an incel too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:16 PM
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How is it shallow to want sex? Women want sex too. The difference is it’s harder for men to get than women. Sex is literally on the Maslow hierarchy of needs so it is a need to live a satisfactory life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:15 PM
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Yes and another thing is what is the quality of women that these 5’4 guys are banging left and right? Generally, the most desirable women want the desirable men, it’s unlikely to be a 5’4 man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:14 PM
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So many women love reading Yes but they read different things. Men typically read non fiction, women typically read fiction) also have similar political interests too what a odd observation. Again, men are usually right wing, women are usually left wing. And men usually care about economics/military/immigration while women usually care about social causes like women’s rights, gay rights, free healthcare, environment, etc gender is generally mostly sociological and learnt. No. Gender is innate be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:10 PM
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Simple evolution/biology, it’s men’s innate reproductive strategy to spread their seed as wide as possible to maximize their reproductive success
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:00 PM
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Why should men establish a long term monagmous relationship with women who are innately hypergamous and only are with men for their money, status, height, and how they make them feel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:54 PM
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Doesn’t matter to men and their attraction both are relatively young and fertile
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:51 PM
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Lmao women get really mad when men consensually date young women 😂😂😂 cope and seethe woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:50 PM
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Shannon Sharpe is a HVM. He is representative of HVM but not most of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:49 PM
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This is just rage bait trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:48 PM
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Women do choose average guys. This is what I’m disputing. Do you think most women would like a man who’s 5’9 forklift operator making $55k/yr?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:46 PM
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Abortion is murder. This has nothing to do with punishing women. It has to do with punishing murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:43 PM
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Abortion is murder, this is different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:42 PM
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People who want to “eliminate reproductive choice” want to do so because they think abortion is murder. Not because they are trying to get back at women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:40 PM
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Not really, why would they care if they just wanna be with the most desirable men at the top? <image> Would you care if a bunch of 300 lb women went their own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:39 PM
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These are bad analogies As men, we want a girl who's gentle and nurturing, but we also want her to be fiercely loyal and protective They are not mutually exclusive We want her to be competent and reliable at day to day tasks, but we also want her to be a damsel in distress who needs our help. No man has said he wants an idiot incapable of every day tasks We want her to be demure and dignified and pure, but we also want her to go bug mode on us in bed. We want here to be sexually pure, and then a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:37 PM
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If a woman ignores a bunch of nice guys (which I’m sure they’ve done) just to be with a bad boy, that says a lot about her and it’s unlikely she’s good relationship material
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:30 PM
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You think Andrew Tate, the guy who fucks high status women and Instagram models, is sexually unsuccessful?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:28 PM
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Women want a fun, funny, exciting, outgoing man more than men want fun, funny, exciting, outgoing women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:27 PM
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Women don’t want average guys as much as the average man wants the average woman. Thats why on tinder men right swipe on 55% of women while women on right swipe on 5% of men <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:23 PM
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Women have a trend of saying they want sensitive, emotionally vulnerable nice guys but then end up giving their bodies to men who are emotionally unavailable, nonchalant men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:17 PM
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And the same goes for women. Women also choose partners who match what they say. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:15 PM
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Humans are confident Men are usually more confident and women generally want men more confident than them Humans are risk takers (certainly not all humans). Men are more risk takers (on average) Humans marry within their socioeconomic brackets and outside of them. Women generally want to marry across and up socioeconomically. Men don’t really care as much so as a result they tend to marry across and down
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:12 PM
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Women take dating advice from The View and The Steve Harvey Show. Not any better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:11 PM
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Men should take dating advice from men who are the most successful with women. Thats what pill content is based on and it’s the most logical approach. The girls red pill content creators features are there just to prove red pill talking points (like female hypergamy), not to take their advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:10 PM
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It does change things. But men with the least experiences think they are the experts on women. How do you not agree with what you implicitly said? If men with the most experience with women are the biggest experts, men should be taking advice from them right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:06 PM
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What a good partner is is universal more or less
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:03 PM
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Obviously we have to generalize here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:50 PM
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That’s why I said usually. In humans it is the case. That’s an evolutionary theory, not proven. Do you really think most women would like to have sex with multiple men at the same time? From what I see women might talk to multiple men but there is only one guy she really likes. And it’s hard for women to sleep with multiple. From my experience when women sleep with a new guy they fell for they don’t wanna have sex with the last guy because she lost feelings. This makes sense evolutionarily becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:43 PM
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I agree women aren’t totally monagmous in nature, but the difference is that women usually want mate with one guy at a time while the men usually want to mate with multiple at one time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:10 AM
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A man on a women’s level is more likely to commit to her. Right? Given the graph above, why would women expect monogamous relationships from men above them who are the least likely to commit because there is more of them than the women who want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:11 PM
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They are going to be nicer than men above women’s leagues because they have less options so they have be more accommodating to the woman. Do you seriously think it’s easier for an average woman to get commitment from a 6 ft 4 handsome millionaire than an average guy who drives a forklift?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:21 PM
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I don’t understand why female 5’s think they are entitled to monogamous relationships with male 7’s and 8’s, and then generalize men as no good cheating players when they don’t get that monogamous relationship from men above their leagues while ignoring the nice guys on her league who would treat her like a queen and commit to her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:37 PM
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<image> Here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:27 PM
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I literally said the graph is exaggerated. The purpose was to illustrate the overall trend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:22 PM
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Ah, you got me! Sike. You are “pink pill”, so you guys agree with most red pill fundamentals. Also many non red pill social scientists are also echoing the same thing. Some dub it as the “high heel effect” or put it in different words, but the bottom line is that there is not enough desirable enough men for every woman who wants one, which is causing the men at the top to have disproportionately high access to women, many women not finding a monogamous mate due to excessive hypergamy, and a larg…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:19 PM
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In adulthood, male brains are, on average, 10% to 15% larger than female brains (Ruigrok et al., 2014)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:26 PM
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I think many men resent that most women do not appreciate a cold approach and prefer a warm/ friendly approach where they get to know the guy a bit before being asked out. What is seems like is that women resent that most men prefer to cold approach a bunch of women over joining social groups and trying to take it slow with a limited amount of women because women want to feel special and not like they’re one girl out of 50 that the man approached
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:27 AM
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And why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:23 AM
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wtf is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:49 AM
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Why would women want to be romantically approached at a church 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:45 AM
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Why is heightism banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:44 AM
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Women in their teens and twenties (when they’re the most fertile/attractive) cheat the most. People in demand cheat more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:42 AM
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Most women are too blue pilled to even understand. They think men are hardwired to be monogamous and not want to spread their genes with other fertile females (even though we see basically every male animal behave this way) I’m not trying to justify anything. You are trying to attach morality to nature. Nature/biology doesn’t care how you feel about these things. If you don’t like men so much then just stay single, never have kids, but that goes against you’re reproductive hardwiring so idk what…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:41 AM
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Men are hardwired to “fantasize” about cheating because men’s innate reproductive strategy is to pass on their genetics as far as possible. This is biology, just about all male animals are like this. So if a man is choosing not to cheat that should be respectable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:22 AM
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Why is your answer no? That doesn’t make sense Women are not more biologically loyal than men. Women are driven to monkey branch when presented with a more attractive man. That’s why women cheat more than men when women are peak attractive years. But after that they’re oppertunity to cheat decreases because there is less HVM demand for older women, as you can see in the survey https://preview.redd.it/7zdpp9pv5pgf1.jpeg?width=787&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53aa86a918da43a15db608b840b2825cc52ba37c
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:15 AM
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Ok and if an unattractive women becomes attractive she will monkey branch to a more attractive higher status man. Please answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:00 PM
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It changes everything. If men have no other sexual access they will stay loyal and committed to the one girl they have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:39 PM
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Most men like to keep one steady girl for secure sexual access. Drake probably has a main chick at home
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:37 PM
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I agree with the first part. But I think men settle on what they want more and are more content because men have realistic expectations. But can we get back on topic please It’s not reasonable to disagree though. If women want to be smaller, weaker, less earning, lower status, etc than a man, the only reasonable conclusion is that women want to be inferior to men. Do you agree with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:37 PM
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Not necessarily. A lot of boyfriends are still interested in other girls, waiting for something better, some even cheat. If they’re so committed they’d marry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:58 PM
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The stereotype is based on reality. Women’s are evolved to nurture children, that’s why they’re more emotional, to tend to the offsprings needs. Women’s brains are literally smaller in size and wired differently. Asking for a study to prove that women are hardwired to be more emotional is like asking for a study that men are more violent. It’s so obvious that it’s not worth debating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:28 PM
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Most women would prefer a higher earning man over an equal earning man, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:35 PM
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Sure but even genuine nice guys who care about women and their feelings still don’t do as well as emotionally unavailable assholes (on average). When you think of players, you don’t think of caring, thoughtful, nice guys. You think of emotionally unavailable guys who don’t really care about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:35 PM
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You seriously need a source to tell you that women are more emotional than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:34 PM
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I’m not even trying to be like that but it’s just the fact of the matter. Just facts and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:27 PM
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No you just misinterpreted me. Can you answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:25 PM
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I was exaggerating but you get the point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:24 PM
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When I said weaker I didn’t even mean physically weaker. I meant mentally. Typically women want men who are more confident, more assertive, less emotional (for example they don’t cry as often as the woman), etc. Since you until nitpicked me on that one thing, do you cede that the rest are true?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:18 PM
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This includes “the boyfriends”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:15 PM
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Men and women have different innate reproductive goals. What you are describing is analogous to the many women who are dating to marry, putting 3 month rules, etc, but in contrast men don’t do that they usually like to take things naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:05 PM
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I’m not talking about myself, I’m talking about the marketplace. You are being too emotional. We are talking about the marketplace, not your opinion. Would you agree that Chris brown and Andrew Tate has higher mate value than average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:03 PM
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Well I think that’s an important point because basically everyone will settle down or do xyz if the offer is good enough. If Chris brown proposed to the average 18 year old girl who is in her party phase most would settle down. And the reverse, most women who are looking for husbands will have casual sex if the guy is a sexy celebrity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:59 PM
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I'm talking about preferences. Hinge is actually much better than tinder for determining preferences. On tinder a man can just open it every day, swipe right 100 times, then filter out matches on the back end. That strategy tells us nothing about his preferences. It says a lot about men’s preferences. It says that most men are attracted to most women. And that most women are not attracted to most women. Hinge forces users to save their likes for the options they actually prefer. If a guy opens h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:54 PM
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I said abuse gets factored into men’s mate value. Do you not agree a man who is abuser lowers his mate value? Who do you think has more mate value, Chris brown or some average guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:37 PM
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I just told you, it’s gonna leave a lot of men and women are gonna be single because of not setting for anything less aka excessive hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:31 PM
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You asked me why it matters. I just told you why. A woman thinking a man on her level is settling messes up the marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:12 PM
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Stop twisting what I’m saying. I never said abusing people was okay. What I said is that being an abuser makes a man less attractive, but according to the marketplace, women find high mate value male (rich, high status) who are abusers more attractive than low mate value males (ugly, broke, low status) who aren’t abusers. This is true and you know it. So if a woman attracts that highest mate value man she can attract (with abuse being factored into men’s mate value), she is not settling if she a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:11 PM
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Link? That's certainly not the case on Hinge, based on the data I linked to. A woman in the top 1% receives over 70 likes for every one like received by a woman in the bottom 50%. You can do the math on that table to find that men like a maximum of 8.9% of women on average on Hinge. “Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Hinge is not applicable here because on Hinge you can only like 8 …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:06 PM
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Link? That's certainly not the case on Hinge, based on the data I linked to. A woman in the top 1% receives over 70 likes for every one like received by a woman in the bottom 50%. You can do the math on that table to find that men like a maximum of 8.9% of women on average on Hinge. “Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104 Hinge is not applicable here because on Hinge you can only like 8 …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:06 PM
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Because it creates unrealistic expectations for women. A woman who of average attractiveness, let’s say a 5, should be matched with a man who’s a 5. But with all this “never settle” nonsense she will see the flaws in the male 5 (like he’s not wealthy enough or tall enough or educated enough) so she’ll feel entitled to a 7. That male 7 won’t want the female 5 long term, why would he if he can attract better. Now the problem with this the strain it creates in the marketplace is that large amounts …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:59 PM
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Depends. But this is besides the point. Men are hardwired to find the most fertile women the most attractive. Most men find 22 year olds more attractive than 32 year olds (https://np.reddit.com/r/OkCupid/s/h8y8PjxULt)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:49 PM
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Agreed. But women are the ones being told not to settle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:48 PM
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The new guy may not wife her. She may try to monkeybranch but fall
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:46 PM
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An average woman getting with a millionaire (who is abuses women) is NOT settling. She’s negotiating for the highest male value man she can attract. Like I said everybody has flaws, some more serious than others, but that factors into their mate value. According to the marketplace, a billionaire who cheats has higher mate value than a minimum wage worker who is loyal. Settling = picking a mate lower in mate value than you can attract
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:44 PM
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Exactly that’s what I’m saying. Women generally don’t settle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:34 PM
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Yes I know everybody has preferences for attractive mates but the defining difference here between men and women is that women have much more selective and have more rigid preferences than men. The average woman doesn’t want the average man. But men do want the average woman. The average woman wants an above average man. That’s why men swipe right on 55% of women while women only right swipe on 5% of men. If you ask women, would you like a man who is 5’9 and makes $55k/yr (which is the average m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:34 PM
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Settling depends on the objective, I think we agree on this. If a woman wants a rich high status man and gets that, but he’s also an abuser, that’s not settling because the objective was to get the richest highest status man she can attract. If being with someone who has simply has a flaw is settling, then everybody settles because nobody is perfect. A woman might meet a nice rich guy but he’s short. Or a reliable guy who will be a good dad but he has a small penis. This goes into womens unreali…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:48 PM
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That’s not settling because you know that risk is not worth taking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:43 PM
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That’s not settling, not my fault they’re using the word incorrectly. If you only have $2k to buy a car, so you choose to buy an old beater for $2k, that’s not settling. That’s market value
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:42 PM
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Most women don’t respond well to emotionally vulnerable nice guys, even the ones who say they want one. The “other” women who do are a minority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:41 PM
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It’s a commonality. The dynamic where on one hand women say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys but on the other hand in real life they respond to emotionally unavailable stoic men is definitely a commonality that is so popular there are many blogs written to help women with this problem https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-high-functioning-hotspot/202102/why-you-dont-feel-chemistry-with-nice-guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:40 PM
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Sure women are individuals but still there are commonalities that exist. And the pattern where on one hand women say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys but on the other hand in real life they respond to emotionally unavailable stoic men is definitely a commonality that is so popular there are many blogs written to help women with this problem https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-high-functioning-hotspot/202102/why-you-dont-feel-chemistry-with-nice-guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:38 PM
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Good critism of women = incel take
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:37 PM
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Women want bigger, taller men because they want to feel smaller and weaker. It’s comparable to age because the younger person in an age gap is also in a weaker, more vulnerable position. It’s also comparable to wealth gap, women want to be the lesser earning partner, so that puts them in the weaker more vulnerable position financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:36 PM
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Men want sluts for short term mating but chaste women for long term mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:34 PM
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Women aren’t a total monolith but there are commonalities that exist. And the dynamic where on one hand women say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys but on the other hand in real life they respond to emotionally unavailable stoic men is definitely a commonality that is so popular there are many blogs written to help women with this problem https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-high-functioning-hotspot/202102/why-you-dont-feel-chemistry-with-nice-guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:31 PM
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Always the best comments getting downvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:29 PM
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Yes as the blog post exists because this is a common problem many women face. They say they want emotionally vulnerable nice guys because they are better for relationships but in real life they respond to stoic. emotionally unavailable men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:27 PM
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Have you ever considered there are commonalities among women so OP is generalizing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:25 PM
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It’s not reasonable to disagree though. If women want to be smaller, weaker, less earning, lower status, etc than a man, the only reasonable conclusion is that women want to be inferior to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:20 PM
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There’s no rebuttal really. Women do have a massive trend of saying they want one set of attributes in a man but then respond sexually to a different set of attributes. And that’s in part due to women’s emotional nature and not being as logical as men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:18 PM
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We are strangers so we don’t know the same women so this is not a good question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:13 PM
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The meaning of settling is to not choose your best option, it’s to compromise and choose a less desirable option. You are misusing the word settling. What you are saying is that if a woman gets into a relationship with Chris brown (knowing he is an abuser) or Andrew Tate (knowing he is an abuser), that she’s settling because they are abusers. I’m telling you that’s not settling because women who choose Chris brown and Andrew Tate, chances are those are the most attractive men they can get with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:10 PM
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Ok I see the misunderstanding. If you pick the best option you have, that’s not settling. So the first comment I used the work correctly. But the next comment I said women were settling for the best beta providers, technically that’s not settling if they re looking for beta providers. I used the word setting in relation to how sexually attracted they are to the beta
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:06 PM
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Ok I see the misunderstanding. If you pick the best option you have, that’s not settling. So the first comment I used the work correctly. But the next comment I said women were settling for the best beta providers, technically that’s not settling if they re looking for beta providers. I used the word setting in relation to how sexually attracted they are to the beta
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:06 PM
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You seriously think women pass up on more attractive guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:51 PM
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Yes, they settle for the highest earning beta they can attract (when they are looking for a husband, but when they are young and peak attractiveness they are usually not looking for a beta)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:50 PM
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Yes I do. Many people are saying women are still finding themselves in their 20s, and while that may be true, that’s doesn’t matter to men assessing their attractiveness. As women get older, sure they will be more sure of themselves but at the same time men will find older women less attractive than younger women. And as women get older their standards for things like money and status increase because their money and status are increasing. This is a bad combination, increasingly demanding a high…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:48 PM
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Men usually dgaf about women being educated when they are assessing how attractive she is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:44 PM
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<image> The reason why those men didn’t want to commit is because those men are high demand men at the top who are the least incentivized to commit because they have the most options. Mathematically, there is not enough men at the top for every woman who wants one so mathematically most women are not going to be able to have a long term relationship with who they want. (I know this graph exagerates a bit but this is still the overall trend)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:43 PM
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TLDR: I think the majority of women would “settle down” in her 20s if the man she wanted to settle down with wanted to 1) settle down and/or 2) settle down with her. I agree but the problem is that the men that women in their 20’s want are guys who are usually high demand men at the top who have more women competing for them than the quantity of these men. Mathmateically amost of those women on the left cannot get long term relationships because there’s not enough desirable men for every woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:40 PM
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You are under the impression that looks determined all of a man’s attractiveness to women. Looks is important but there is money and status too, (and some personality) which factor if a man is top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:34 PM
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Women generally don’t settle, women are hypergamous and they go after the best man they can attract
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:30 PM
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The advice to not tolerate men treating you badly is BECAUSE most men don't think you're special. Bullshit. The average women can get tons of guys who will treat them like a queen, worship the ground she walks on, and be an all around great guy. The problem is she doesn’t want those guys, women usually want guys above them and naturally a guy who is above a woman is not going to pedestalize her and treat her like she’s special, because to him she’s really not special she is replaceable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:26 PM
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To solve your reproductive problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:15 PM
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Hell yeah. Matter fact I would like that setup even if there was enough sex in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:38 PM
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Most people who actually want to go to Coldplay concerts are women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:37 PM
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😂😂😂 that’s why average men have to lie to be able to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:35 PM
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Sure some are hookers but most are not. (legal) teens so what? That’s like the most popular porn category Mikayla Peterson and Lauren southern are high status women that he’s fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:21 PM
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Right I understand that. But that’s besides the point. The point is that math is used to assess attractiveness. Generally speaking the man with more goats will be seen as more attractive because mathematically women tend to want guys with more resources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:52 PM
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Women using math to determine men’s attractiveness is not a trend. A thousand years ago, a man with 100 goats would’ve probably been seen as more attractive by women than a man with 10 goats. Math is simply how we quantify things that relate to attractiveness, in this case height and resources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:24 PM
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Lmao, it’s legit science “Results suggest those who are high on the Dark Triad traits create advantageous environments for short-term mating” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886911003011
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:14 PM
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Obviously I did not mean all women. And this is a recent phenomenon of course women 100 years ago weren’t as obsessed with height as much as they are now. You totally missed the point that math matters in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:02 PM
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So treating a woman like shit is more attractive than a guy pretending to be nice? Who do you think gets more pussy, nice guys or assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:01 PM
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Men date down in looks. I’d say hypergamy’s definition should be changed to dating up in survival fitness. Because not only do women generally want to date men of higher financial and social status, but they want men who are bigger, stronger, more confident, more assertive, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:59 PM
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The definition of hypergamy is socioeconomic status. Men did not change the definition of the word at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:57 PM
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This is mostly true but you are omitting the fact that most mens don’t have the sexual market value and the sexual options in order for A and B to actually pan out. Most 50 year old men can’t attract 20 year olds and most men in general can’t have low investment sex outside their relationships. So I would retitle your post “(high value) men are fundamentally unsuitable for long term relationships”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:56 PM
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Not all but most
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:51 PM
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She is trying to infantilize women. She doesn’t want to accept the fact that women can want and like to get physically dominated by her own choice because that undermines her views on feminism and egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:50 PM
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That’s because straight men don’t WANT to be choked and dominated. People who want that are usually straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:48 PM
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Do you disagree with the conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:47 PM
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She’s got a point. Yes there are generalizations but by definition generalizations are usually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:46 PM
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OP is a woman so you can’t call her the usual names (misogynist, incel, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:45 PM
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Blue pill is basically gaslighting to men actually trying to increase their reproductive success. It is based on feel good idealism, most people are not ready for the truth because it’s brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:44 PM
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Jordan peterson’s daughter Yeah sure but why does that matter The point is that Andrew Tate has fucked a bunch of girls, including girls who are high status and not sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:43 PM
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Then why do women filter men who are 6 ft tall? If they don’t care about math they would be okay with a 5 ft tall man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:41 PM
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People are unique but still have commonalities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:19 PM
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Except you’re leaving out the fact many women reject men who are too nice, too available, treat them like queens, etc. It’s no secret that bad boys get more pussy than nice guys, and this is with looks being even
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:07 PM
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Mikayla Peterson is a sex worker? Lauren southern is a sex worker? That Indian Instagram model is a sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:05 PM
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I said these drives are innate to the sexes, I didn’t say each person from each sex actually does it. Big difference. Sometimes people do things that they are not innately hardwired to do, for example people choose to starve themselves (for religious, political, or health purposes) but nobody would argue we are hardwired to want to starve. But what you’ll see is that most of the time it’s true, because the innate drive has a big influence on actual behavior. That’s why you don’t see celebrity wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:20 PM
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How are you going to tell them what men they want? If a woman finds Chris brown attractive, but he doesn’t want her because she’s ran through, you can’t tell her that she doesn’t want Chris brown. This is cope
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:26 AM
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Women who have sex while single aren't having any hard times finding men who want them. I didn’t say promiscuous women have a hard time finding men who want them. I said that promiscuous women have a hard time finding men THAT THEY WANT who wants them. Enormous difference, this is the reason why most single women in general are single. Women are hypergamous so they are much pickier than men. So the men at the top they tend to pick has a lot more options, so with more options he is naturally goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:11 AM
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In the beginning of this exchange you said “those women” as in women who are promiscuous. This isn’t necessarily about you, it’s about the marketplace. Promiscuous women are gonna have a tougher time finding a man that they want who wants them back because of this biologically rooted preference men have against promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:58 AM
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Why are you saying ew at a behavior you have been doing your whole adult life? You still have a vested interest in the sexual marketplace even if you’re married. You still want to know you’re desirable for security just in case you are no longer married. You are a typical blue piller. Most people don’t research human mating behavior not for some noble reason, most people just don’t have the intelligence or don’t want to put the work in. In the real world, human mating behavior is largely influen…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:24 PM
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The problem is you live in the real world. Therefore, emperical evidence supersedes your anecdotal experience. I’m sure subconsciously you have an interest in in optimizing your reproductive success, that’s why youre on this sub discussing intergender dynamics. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t care enough to regularly participate in a sub that’s mainly talking about dating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:51 PM
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The emperical evidence says that men have a preference for women who are less promiscuous “Men have evolved to exhibit a desire for chastity and sexual fidelity and an abhorrence of promiscuity in long-term mates” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886916300964
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:44 PM
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Promiscuous women simply want men they are attracted to. And I’m telling you right now most of those men she’s attracted to don’t want to be with a promiscuous woman. There’s a reason why Lana Rhodes baby father is a secret and won’t claim her or the baby. (It is allegedly nba player Blake griffin
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:24 PM
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Fresh and fit regularly invites college educated women including doctors, lawyers, real estate agents, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:21 PM
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Men are amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:21 PM
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Why should the man pay if they’re both getting the same date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:20 PM
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$200 for a polite thanks? Wow what a bargain for men!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:19 PM
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men they want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:18 PM
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Except for the fact that women travelers are going to be looked over by the men they want because most men don’t want permiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:14 PM
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Women who travel a lot are a red flag to me. That signals promiscuity (flair checks out)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:07 PM
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100% agreed. Who’s paying for these trips? Who is she meeting at these traveling destinations?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:04 PM
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Traveling is BORING. Everything that can be seen traveling can be seen in a YouTube video.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:54 PM
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The constitution is a document of rules. I’m sure you want to live in a society with rules
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:50 PM
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Yeah I think it goes against females’ innate biology. Females are generally driven to sexually select for the best genetics(prioritizing quality) while males are driven to pass on as much as their genetics as they can (quantity)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:42 PM
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Yeah I think it goes against females’ innate biology. Females are generally driven to sexually select for the best genetics(prioritizing quality) while males are driven to pass on as much as their genetics as they can (quantity)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:40 PM
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Most women who have sex outside of relationships don’t sleep with a rotation of men. I don’t think you reflect the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:38 PM
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Yup, typical female behavior from my experience. Generally they can’t separate sex from emotions with a man they’re having sex with for a long period of time. And usually they turn bitter after you don’t act like you want to wive them in 2 months. It is ironic because if you are too interested in her at the beginning, she would have never been attracted to you enough for her to want sex. It is like women are just trying to chase the man’s validation, not the man himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:37 PM
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The question didn’t ask “dating” it asked “talking” to
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:24 PM
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It’s easier for a 20 year old to be a 20 year old than it is for a 6 figure earner to be a 6 figure earner. Be grateful you are a woman and don’t have to work for your attractiveness (yes I know the attractiveness will later fade no matter how much work you put in but that’s besides the point)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:25 PM
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I understand that but you changed the argument. That 30 year old has had her chance to be 20 years old (without putting in any work). Most men don’t make 6 figures or higher, and if they do they’re gonna have to put in a lot of work
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:05 PM
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A man who earned $100k did more work to earn it than a 20 year old woman worked to earn her attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:24 PM
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Sorry I can’t understand what you’re trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:24 PM
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It’s harder to make $100k than it is to be an attractive 20 year old female who did next to no work to earn her attractiveness. I’m not saying all women who do no work are attractive, I’m saying all attractive women basically haven’t worked for it. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:43 PM
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No, it’s easier and takes less time to get a 6 pack than be a millionaire. But that’s not even the main argument. The main argument is that the most attractive women do less work to earn their SMV than men who makes lots of money
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:32 PM
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Great. But making a lot of money is not easy, agreed?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:21 PM
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Ok well just have to agree to disagree I guess. Even as a man, I can clearly notice (on average) the guys who are 5’4 are not as cocky as guys who are 6’4
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:10 PM
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Ok but do you see why it is a stereotype?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:45 PM
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Right but she still butchered the definition of hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:23 AM
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Right but if he had to work 3 jobs I’m sure he’s not rich
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:23 AM
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Sure but that’s what I hear frequently. Do you think this stereotype has any grains of truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:22 AM
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Lol, that certainly wasn’t my experience when I was 21. So you really think most women would say they’d date a man who’s 5’9 making $55k/yr (average US man)? I do agree with your last sentence, as we age the pattern reverses, the average 50 year old man probably doesn’t find the average 50 year old woman very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:22 AM
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Women constantly sexually selecting assholes even though publicly they claim they want nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:55 AM
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Many women say tall men are usually more cocky and selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:53 AM
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I don’t agree with the first statement but the second statement is definitely true
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:52 AM
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Yeah this was a really dumb post. She must be new to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:51 AM
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Women are just trying to be safe Also women I'm in a loving, committed relationship but I thought about downloading the tea app. Not because I don't trust my partner, but because I love drama that doesn't involve me. I'm just nosey. I only just heard of it like 2 days ago and they just had that big security "breach," so safe to say I will not be downloading it, but that shit did look juicy and I was so ready to curl up with the penjamin and go through it for kicks. I think the drama and intrigue…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:50 AM
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Because they would have to be dating the same men in order to give each other the “tea” about those men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:49 AM
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I thought the app was to “protect women” and “women’s safety” not laughing at men for bad dating experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:47 AM
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So would you agree that most 21 year old men find most 21 year old women attractive, while most 21 year old women find most 21 year old men unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:44 AM
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Making money is not easy. That’s why most men (and people in general) don’t have lots of money. Meanwhile top 20% of women did nothing to earn it (outside of basic grooming, fashion)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:43 AM
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I beg to differ. Do you think that women usually prefer more dominant men in and out the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:51 PM
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It was a general statement. Of course there are exceptions to every rule but they are still exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:13 PM
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Being penetrated is a submissive act. Again, women want more dominant men IN AND OUTSIDE the bedroom. You are just asking the same questions in circles and I answered them all. Do you agree that women usually prefer more dominant men in and out the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:01 PM
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For the third time, women prefer dominant men OUTSIDE OF SEX
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:40 PM
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The sex is reflective of the natural power dynamic between men and women But what I’m asserting now is that women prefer dominant men OUTSIDE OF SEX
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:56 PM
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Do you agree taller men are perceived as more powerful than shorter men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:03 PM
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That’s why I said generally. Even though individual preferences vary, a lot of preferences are common. For instance, most women prefer a man of higher status. Most women prefer taller men. Sure there are exceptions to these trends but that doesn’t disprove the trend
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:36 PM
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Ask who? That wasn’t a specific question, it was a general question (that we both know the answer to). The fact your trying to play dumb shows you are not coming in good faith Do you agree that women usually want a man who is more physically, financially, mentally, emotionally, and socially more powerful?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:51 AM
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Ok so on average, would an average height woman (5’4) prefer an average height man (5’9) or a tall man (6’2)? I already made the point several times but you just deflect and strawman. Women want a physically, financially, socially, mentally, and emotionally more powerful man. Women want to be the weaker ones. Weaker is synonymous with submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:48 PM
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Most men are not over 6 ft tall, why do so many women who are average to below average in height want much taller men instead of average height men who are taller than them? Clearly women as a whole usually want men absolutely tall men, not just comparatively tall. Also you ignored my other points how women usually want men who are financially, mentally, emotionally, and socially more powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:44 PM
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Ok let’s roll with your logic here. So which one do women generally want to be compared to men, weaker or submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:13 PM
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You are the one who started arguing with me. I said that women are hardwired to want to be more submissive. Submissive just means weaker. This is proven by the fact that women want a more powerful man, so that by definition means women want to be weaker. You can’t debunk this because it’s true. So if you want to stop arguing about something you’re clearly in the wrong about now is a good time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:47 PM
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Do you agree that taller people are perceived as more powerful? Like more people are going to be intimidated by a 6’5 guy than a 5’7 guy all things being equal? And in extreme cases I agree. But in normal cases, like a guy is 5’8 and a woman is 5’10 that doesn’t mean something is wrong with the guy. Women don’t care about a man’s income??? This is very intellectually dishonest. Women rarely marry comparatively lower earning men. Also you ignored the other points I made showing women prefer more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:59 PM
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Even in real life (not fantasy) women still want a more powerful man. Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want higher earning men. Status wise, women tend to want higher status men. This is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:20 PM
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That’s the main point of this discussion. I said that most women want to be weaker than men and they want a more powerful man. I said this is supported by women’s mating preferences and the popularity mainstream romances/eroticas where the male is more dominant. Then you brought up how some women like to watch gay erotica, which is irrelevant because it’s such a small nice that doesn’t apply to most women. YOU are avoiding the point. Please answer this question directly: do women usually want mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:44 PM
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For every woman who watched a gay male erotica there’s at least 10 who watched a conventional male dominant erotica like 50 shades. You trying to say they are comparably popular is intellectually dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:09 PM
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Gay male erotica is NOT extremely popular with women. If you look at the actual stats, the most popular eroticas are 50 shades of grey and similar eroticas involving the man being more powerful than the woman. Gay eroticas are more of a niche field and doesn’t come close to the conventional dominant male theme
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:57 PM
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Those sexual dynamics of the women submitting and the man dominating in the bedroom reflects the natural gender dynamics of women submitting outside of the bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:50 AM
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Yes but it reflects women’s preferences. People generally don’t consume erotic content of things that they’re not attracted to. If a man watched fiction erotica/porn involving homosexuality or pedophilia, wouldn’t it be reasonable to conclude that man has homosexual or pedophilic attractions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:47 AM
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Have you ever read a popular romance/erotica?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:36 PM
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Ok naturality aside, do you agree that most women want more powerful men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:20 PM
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Because you didn’t answer the intent of the question. You said some women, not all. DUH!!! You can say that about anything. What’s important is the general consensus, because that’s how we make general statements. You are trying to avoid this because it seems you understand it will undermine your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:14 PM
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It was a general question. Meaning most. Would you agree that most women want more powerful men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:05 PM
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You can force feed like they do in prisons Do you agree that women naturally desire more powerful men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:58 PM
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Money is a big part of what makes men attractive, you can’t separate the two. It’s like saying a woman is only attractive because of her body parts. Like, duh. What’s so immoral about a man having sex with young fertile women as he’s biologically hardwired to be driven to be sexually attracted to? Why are men’s innate preferences shunned but women’s innate preferences are respected?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:44 PM
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I can agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:35 PM
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Sometimes people rebel against things that are natural. Like having to force a baby to eat when they don’t want to. What are you gonna say next, eating is not natural?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:34 PM
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The things that make men hot are the things that make them more powerful. Sorry if i confused you with someone else. But I do not want to want to continue with this discussion if you won’t answer my 3 questions. Because they hit the crux of my argument. I think you’re avoiding answering them because answering them honestly would undermine your position. But if you do want to continue, these are the 3 questions I have 1/do you agree that taller people are generally perceived as more physically mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:29 PM
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I think you have the wrong idea about the word “dominant”. Dominant just means in the stronger or more powerful position. I think we can both agree that women want a man who’s more powerful than them physically, financially, mentally, emotionally, and socially. Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:53 PM
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Which of my points am I wrong about? Can you actually counter my arguments, or are they too good to be countered?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:36 PM
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I just gave you half a dozen points but you totally ignored them because you know I’m right. The facts favor my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:57 PM
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Women still want to be weaker ones or the more submissive ones compared to men even given when given the choice. Just look at female mating preferences, generally women prefer more powerful men. women still want a more dominant man. Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:06 PM
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That sounds good to say but that’s not how reality works. Drake, Chris brown, or Leonardo DiCaprio are (collectively by women) regarded as the top 1% most desirable men but no woman knows how clean their room is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:02 PM
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What if he was the most desirable man you were ever able to attract? Would you rather be with a less desirable man who keeps his house clean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:43 PM
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You made a ton of deflections and strawmans. Firstly, yes height does correlate with health in EXTREME circumstances. But not in normal circumstances, for example there is no evidence than a 6’2 man is healthier than a 5’8 man. However most women (who are average height like 5’4) will prefer a 6’3 man over a 5’8 man (even though both men are taller and stronger than her like you said). Please answer this question: is it true that women generally perceive a much taller man to be more physically d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:41 PM
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That’s what I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:02 AM
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Most women get weak and submissive for men they are really sexually attracted to. Not every woman has a man they are very sexually attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:02 AM
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Height does not equate to health. One can be tall and have cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and cancer, meanwhile someone who’s short can be disease free. If a woman is 6 ft tall, is she is not any healthier than a man who’s 5’9. In fact the science shows that taller people have shorter lifespans because they are more predisposed to cancer and blood clots. Humans are about average in terms of sexual dimorphism, just like most other female animals prefer more powerful, human females are no diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:01 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:50 AM
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Ah, the classic choreplay propaganda. Now tell me again, how many chores do Chad and Tyrone need to do to be able to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:18 AM
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Ok well that reason you’re probably thinking also doesn’t affect his ability to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:17 AM
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My point exactly, it doesn’t really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:26 AM
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Nonsense. Plenty of low status men around like her bodyguards, the mailman, the guys on MySpace, etc. High status men end up with low status women all the time, she could’ve done the same. She picked a man who had high mate value, I never said Jay Z is physically attractive but his money and status puts him in the top .01% of overall male attractiveness You got fucked by Chad, I understand. Doesn’t mean he wanted to wife you (or the reverse because of his other undesirable categories I mentioned…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:24 AM
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Lmao she did not necessarily choose love, she just a rich high status man. If she choose love she would be willing to choose to love a broke low status man. It is just an example but it shows you that you must make sacrifices the higher mate value men you persue. Men with more options are less incentivized to compromise, be nice, be loyal, or do the things you want him to do like clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:04 AM
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For gods sakes it’s a hypothetical question In real life, women have to make sacrifices. You may still be “attracted” to a man with better relationship qualities but the opportunity cost is an even more attractive man who may not have the same relationship qualities. Even the most beautiful celebrities like Beyonce still get cheated on, because they go for the most desirable man they can attract but it generally comes with baggage because more desirable men aren’t incentivized to have the best r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:54 PM
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There’s a reason why those societies are now extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:42 PM
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It’s a hypothetical question so you must stick to the options
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:42 PM
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Not in that hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:14 PM
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If it was cultural there would be some cultures where women were more dominant. The fact that there are none proves it has nothing to do with culture, the only common denominator is our biology so it must be biological
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:14 PM
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Ok I will change the word since you are so traumatized by the word dominant. Instead of dominant I will say more powerful to illustrate my point. Women tend to want men who are more physically powerful than them (taller, stronger). Women tend to want men who are financially more powerful than them (richer). Women tend to want men who are socially more powerful (higher status). Women tend to want men who are mentally more powerful (confident, assertive, tough). Women tend to want men who are emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:54 PM
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I said given the choice, being single was not a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:41 PM
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Women in western countries like to be weaker and more submissive even without being forced
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:40 PM
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He had high mate value, he’s getting laid a lot regardless if he cleans his room
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:39 PM
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Since when does “I don’t respect men shorter than me” mean “I think men who are taller are better than me”? I thought that was a rhetorical question. But I will answer that by saying it’s pretty straightforward. If you think shorter men are “beneath you”, by definition that makes men who are taller than you “above you”. It’s totally logical. It’s also kind of obtuse to require a question mark in order for you to generate a response to statements challenging your viewpoint. Your mental gymnastics…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:45 PM
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Why do I need evidence for something we both agree on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:51 PM
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I don’t think you’re being intellectually honest if you don’t believe women prefer taller, richer, more confidendt, and higher status men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:48 PM
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You agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:47 PM
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Is it really necessary to provide evidence for women preferring men who are richer, taller, more confident, higher status, etc? I’d say that’s unreasonable because we all know this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:45 PM
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I asked if you agree, then you totally ignored the evidence. So that’s on you. I made pretty good points
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:41 PM
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Do you agree that women (generally) want more dominant men? Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want higher earning men. Status wise, women tend to want higher status men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:31 PM
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Same should apply for divorce rape laws
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:28 PM
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I’m pretty sure most prostitutes are enthusiastic about getting hundreds of dollars for spreading their legs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:22 PM
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It’s an extreme example to prove a point. But even with everyday guys, same applies. A 5’4 guy who is low status but keeps his room clean is not gonna have as much sexual access as a 6’4 who is high status but leaves his room a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:21 PM
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You asked me why I think women are the more submissive sex. I just gave you a bunch of evidence that women want more dominant men. By definition if women are driven to want men to be more dominant, that makes women by definition more submissive. I suspect you don’t want to answer my question because it would only prove my point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:14 PM
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You didn’t ask any questions. And my question was actually asked in a previous comment but you ignored it. Can you please answer my question then I will answer any questions you have (like a normal conversation)?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:12 PM
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It’s totally related. I have an example of my point. You just don’t want to understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:11 PM
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Woman want a more dominant man. Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want higher earning men. Status wise, women tend to want higher status men. Do you agree (in general) this is what women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:09 PM
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I’m proving to you that cleaning has no effect on a man’s ability to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:08 PM
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What don’t you understand about the fact that one sex is more dominant and the other is more submissive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:07 PM
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It is reflective of the natural power dynamic between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:06 PM
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You think Chris brown without cleaning his room will get laid less than an incel dork who does clean his room?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:06 PM
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Being dominant doesn’t mean controlling, you are conflating two different things. Being powerful is dominant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:05 PM
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Yes you do know lmao, don’t try to weasel out of this one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:02 PM
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I agree. One sex is designed to be dominant and other is designed to be submissive. Nothing we can do about it other than use strap ons and dildos
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:01 PM
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I know what women want, we are pretty much agreeing on everything except semantics. You want to twist the semantics in a way to promote equality of the sexes. The truth is one sex is more dominant than the other, and that other sex likes more dominant partners. Being a trust fund baby doesn’t make you more competent than a self made doctor. Being 6 ft tall doesn’t make you more competent than Manny Pacquioa who is 5’4. Jake Paul who has a blue check mark on Instagram is not more competent than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:00 PM
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I know what women want, we are pretty much agreeing on everything except semantics. You want to twist the semantics in a way to promote equality of the sexes. The truth is one sex is more dominant than the other, and that other sex likes more dominant partners. Being a trust fund baby doesn’t make you more competent than a self made doctor. Being 6 ft tall doesn’t make you more competent than Manny Pacquioa who is 5’4. Jake Paul who has a blue check mark on Instagram is not more competent than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:59 PM
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Sex reflects the natural power dynamics between men and women. One is the dom the other is the sub. Men and women are not innately egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:44 PM
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The person penetrating is the dom and the person getting penetrated is the sub. This is not egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:43 PM
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I don’t disagree but at the same time modern women tend to do the same thing. They tend to want the benefits of traditional gender norms that are self beneficial (like wanting the man paying most of the bills, the man protecting her, wanting taller men, wanting higher status men) but then they complain about men wanting traditional gender norms that don’t benefit them (like wanting a woman who will submit and obey, wanting a chaste woman, wanting a young woman, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:42 PM
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Yes you are, you are just trying to redefine and conflate things. First off, the definition of dominant is being stronger or higher status than someone. This has nothing to do with controlling. A man who is bigger and stronger than you, is more physically dominant. A man who is richer than you, is more financially dominant. A man who is higher status than you, is more socially dominant. Again this has nothing to do with trying to control someone. Elon musk has more money and status than me so he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:34 PM
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That’s not the point. Given the choice, most women would rather be with an attractive man who doesn’t clean than an unattractive man who does clean. Right or wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:25 PM
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No such thing as egalitarians. Do you guys take turns pegging each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:23 PM
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Same deal for a wive. Women (generally) would rather marry an attractive man (financially, etc) who doesn’t clean than a broke man who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:22 PM
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Ok so you’re willing to date an ugly low status man who cleans over a handsome tall high status man who doesn’t? More attractive men have less incentive to do these things because they got more options
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:21 PM
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You are proving my point without realizing it. You are agreeing that women want a more dominant men. You see, men don’t care about having a dominant women, that’s why men usually date women who are weaker physically, mentally, emotionally, economically and status wise. Only women are driven this way, not men. Because women want more dominant men, that by definition makes them the more submissive sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:19 PM
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Outside the bedroom women still want a more dominant man. Physically, women tend to want men who are taller and stronger. Mentally, women tend to want men who are more confident, assertive, and mentally strong. Emotionally, women tend to want men who are more stoic and don’t cry as often as women do. Economically, women tend to want higher earning men. Status wise, women tend to want higher status men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:14 PM
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I don’t need to live there to know that hundreds of years ago the male Vikings were more dominant and the females were comparatively submissive to the men. This is common sense. There is no recorded society where the women were more dominant than the men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:10 PM
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There’s plenty of evidence. Just look at all the popular romances and eroticas that women consume. All of them women are sexually attracted to being smaller, weaker, lower status, etc compared to the a more dominant man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:08 PM
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The difference is that men innately want to dominate. If they lose yes they must submit. This is in contrast to women who want to find a more dominant man to be subordinate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:05 PM
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I have family from there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:04 PM
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Agreed. If rape was so prevelant, there would be no such thing as evolution via sexual selection, because the men would just pass their genes on without female choice. However we know this is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:03 PM
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Biology doesn’t care about modern life. Biologically women are the weaker, submissive sex. We see this manifested in many ways even in modern society because women can’t change their biology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:01 PM
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In order for something to be submissive it has to get dominated. Like in the bedroom, without a sub there is no dom (women tend to like to be submissive and be dominated by men during sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:00 PM
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No it’s not a Christian ideal, it’s a biological drive. Many other religions like Islam and Hinduism say the same. But even in non religious western societies women generally still like to be submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:58 PM
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They were still submissive compared to the men. Religion has little influence in Scandinavia and women still like to be submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:57 PM
0

The real answer is because there are other things that make him attractive. Men who are handsome, tall, and high status don’t have to clean their house and will still get more pussy than a sub5 incel who is a neat freak
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:55 PM
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There’s no correlation with how clean a man is to how much he gets laid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:54 PM
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Yes I know you like to be dominated sexually (like most women). But even outside of sex you (and most women) also want a more dominant man (physically, mentally, emotionally). No need to argue against basic facts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:03 PM
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You are doing a lot of mental gymnastics and conflations. I will ask you a simple question, please answer it directly: if women don’t respect shorter men, why should men have to respect shorter women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:04 AM
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Typical woman. Therefore it’s reasonable to say that women (generally) want a more dominant man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:01 AM
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It’s a generality, and it’s based on net dominance. Some women give more weight to money, or physicality, or status, this kinda varies woman to woman. Like some women may be fine with a man shorter than her if the man was very rich. But the bottom line is that women generally prefer a more dominant man. Why are you denying basic biology? And I bet you get penetrated in your butt, so you are creating a double standard that is defeating your point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:37 AM
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Lol ok so I won the argument. If you don’t want to take turns pegging each other, you don’t want an equal, you want a dom. And outside of the bedroom you, you probably want a man who’s taller than you, you probably want a man who’s stronger than you, you probably want a man who makes more money than you, you probably want a man who’s higher status than you. Just admit women generally want more dominant men, this isn’t rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:44 PM
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You really don’t see any of the work that goes into being graceful, elegant, well-kept, having an engaging personality, or anything at all? Lol, ok. I’m sure you only go for disheveled women with tangled hair and misshapen clothes who grunt and slouch and grumble and frown and curse and step on your toes. As long as she’s got big tits and a tiny waist, you don’t appreciate any of the effort for the performance of femininity. Beauty is largely genetics. I can admire a woman for taking care of her…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:04 PM
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Ok back to the original point: generally speaking, women prefer dominant men. This is true regardless if the woman considers herself strong or weak. Dominant doesn’t mean controlling or abusive, it just means stronger or more powerful, so in the context between men and women, dominance refers to the man being physically stronger (bigger and stronger), socially stronger (higher status), and mentally stronger (more confident and stoic). This is not rocket science, this is basic biology. Sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:28 PM
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If he wants you to be the dominant one in the household, he wants to cry on your shoulder every day, then have you peg him in the bedroom. Would you be willing to change in this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:49 PM
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I can’t see what you attatched. And no I mean the general population. If you were to ask most women, “are you sexually attracted to most men” they would say no. If you asked them their income and height preferences, they would eliminate most men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:29 PM
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You’re not a woman. Plenty of blue pilled women openly admit to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:29 PM
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Yes. Most women find most men unattractive. Even most blue pilled women will admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:20 PM
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Yes that’s a good point, patriarchy is different from misogyny however feminists think that patriarchy is inherently misogynistic so that’s why I conflated the two, because it seems you are arguing from a feminist perspective. I believe in patriarchy but I don’t believe in misogyny Men send OTHER men to go fight and die in wars. It is patriarchal but not misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:40 PM
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It’s 2025 and we still reference the Laws of Newton
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:48 PM
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Yes some women did help in the war efforts in nonviolent ways but the point of what I said is that women were generally kept safe in war Yes some women do face violence and sexual violence during war but again, the point is compared to men they were relatively safe. Anthropological evidence showed extensive male casualties is wars The drive to stay alive is stronger than the drive to reproduce. Therefore if men actually hated women they would send their women and go sexless before they would sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:47 PM
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If a woman isn’t sufficiently hot, her personality doesn’t matter to begin with. No man (with options) wants a girl who looks like Lizzo even if she has perfect personality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:32 PM
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If you husband said he wants you to be the breadwinner and he wants to stay at home would you change in that way too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:30 PM
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He’s not short, not fat, and overall average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:22 PM
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But even the “housewives” need to have a certain level of attractiveness for a man to be want to marry her. You are misinterpreting red pill content
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:42 PM
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Yes but they are first based on attraction. I’ve been trying to tell you this for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:37 PM
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That’s illogical. You can’t change people. That’s like a man getting with a woman is initially extroverted and trying to get her to be introverted over time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:27 PM
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I said attraction. Men have sex with women they are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:22 PM
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You are conflating important with attractive. In general it is important for people to have emotional strength and a level of stoicm. The difference is that generally a man being stoic is sexually attractive, for women it has no affect on her sexual attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:22 PM
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I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. Yes men want agreeable women, but this is separate and contingent on baseline attractiveness. Just like how women say they want nice guys, but they tend to end up “toxic narcissists” who aren’t nice because women are really going for men who are attractive. Being nice for men is an ancillary trait that is separate from attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:11 PM
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Lmao yes I hear the same thing from women. That’s what women say out their mouth. However what women say isn’t necessarily what they respond to. It’s well known women will say they want an emotionally vulnerable man but in reality the type of men they tend respond to sexually are men who are emotionally strong and stoic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:07 PM
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Again, I’m speaking in generalities. Most women are heterosexual so they have more conventional attraction triggers. Most women want their man to be STRONGER and not cry as often as they do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:56 PM
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I am speaking in generalities. Women generally don’t want a man who cries as often as her or is just as insecure as her. Women want men who are stronger than them in general. Ie more dominabt
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:26 PM
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I think you consume too much red pill content. And that’s coming from me. Men are more attracted to disagreeable Kim Kardashian than agreeable Oprah. Agreeableness is a good personality trait for women in long term relationship, but it has nothing to do with their actual attractiveness. Men will get with disagreeable women if they’re attractive, but they won’t get with agreeable women who are unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:25 PM
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do you not admire women when they excel at being beautiful, graceful, feminine, and nurturing? Do you not want to give your bodies to them and get fucked by those women? No I do not admire women for being beautiful. When I see a beautiful woman I think she is attractive and lucky to have her big breasts or wide hips. But admire is a step too far. I only admire people for things they earned, not things they got handed to genetically. We all are dealt a deck in life, some better than others. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:08 PM
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For being attractive to men? No it’s not. It’s just a non factor. Do you think Kim Kardashian or Rihanna struggle attracting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:00 PM
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I think you are conflating dominant with controlling/abusive. Dominant just means stronger. The vast majority of women want a man who’s stronger than her (physically like height and strength, emotionally like doesn’t cry as much as a woman, mentally like confident, etc) therefore most women prefer dominant men in and outside the bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:34 PM
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It’s possible to stay married with the laws, but I agree you can’t force someone to love you. However that’s not the priority, divorce is immoral, bad for kids, bad for the man because he has to pay a large price even when it wasn’t his fault
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:33 PM
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If you’ve read thousands names one where the main man was short, fat, and bald
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:12 PM
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Name one romance movie where the male lead is short, fat, bald, and facially unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:12 PM
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<image> This is the okcupid study where most women rated most men as unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:56 PM
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Most women find the same subset of men attractive. This is apparent because almost no women prefer short men with weak jawlines, bald heads, obese, and prey eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:55 PM
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It’s possible with laws
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:16 PM
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No, I do not accept that. Marriages are supposed to be “till death to us part” meaning the woman is obligated to stay even if she meets a more attractive man and falls out. Women do this as adults too don’t move the goalposts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:47 AM
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Not wanting to be with a fickle woman who will leave me if she finds a more attractive man and take half my money is me not being emotionally mature?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:26 AM
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Smh. This is why men don’t want marriage as much as women. Why risk half your life earnings for fickle women like this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:00 AM
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Do you think this is acceptable behavior? A man leaving you after he sees a more attractive woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:44 AM
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So you think this is acceptable? A man dumping you because he seen a more attractive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:44 AM
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Yup. Women want to blame men as a whole but are ignoring the fact that most men have shitty, probably worse than them. Most men struggle to get a tinder date. Even historically during the times of “patriarchy” 80% of men didn’t reproduce. Supposedly the patriarchy was so evil and mean to women. Turns out it was men dying in a ditch getting shot while women sat at home with the kids. If it was truly a patriarchy, the men can have the women fight we could sit around as say “you send your women, I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:43 AM
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It doesn’t matter about his interested, it matters about hers. She was interested in another guy while she already had a boyfriend, so she branched swung to the next guy. If a woman is in a committed relationship, she should not have eyes on other men. The fact that you are defending this money branching is why men have these AWALT stereotypes about women and generally don’t trust them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:26 AM
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Men usually don’t care about a woman’s strength or status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:19 AM
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She already had her hand on the next monkey branch while she was with him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:54 AM
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Like this data? “For Online Daters, Women Peak at 18 While Men Peak at 50, Study Finds. Oy.“ (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:07 AM
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Men will have sex with strong women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:06 AM
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This is true. Evolutionary women needed stronger men for security
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:50 AM
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Not everybody so sexually attracted to leaders. That’s the point of this post. Generally only women are sexually attracted to leaders. Men typically aren’t attracted to Oprah or Hillary Clinton because they are leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:48 AM
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Men admire other men when they excel in something, but we don’t want to give our bodies to them and get fucked by those men. That’s the difference with women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:40 AM
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She is probably answering thinking if he is crying over something serious like death of a family member. If he cries over a rom com or somebody calling him mean words most women would be turned off
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:22 AM
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MOST women want to be led
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:21 AM
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MOST women want to be led
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:21 AM
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Dominant just means stronger than you. Most women want a man who’s physically, mentally, and emotionally stronger than them because of the fact that women are the weaker sex so they seek security from men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:15 AM
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This is deflection. OP was referring to in a sexual context
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:14 AM
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Dominant does not mean control. Dominant just means stronger than, and I’m sure you want a man stronger than you (physically, mentally, emotionally) outside of the bedroom as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:11 AM
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What I find interesting about this phenomenon is that women who claim they are dominant want an even more dominant man. But also women who are more submissive still want a dominant man. So the bottom line is, women in general prefer dominant men, regardless if they consider themselves weak or strong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:09 AM
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Men and women are different. They have different sexual strategies. Men are hardwired to be driven to maximize mating opportunities AND at the same time prefer a woman who is more sexually chaste to invest long term in because evolutionarily that ensured paternal certainty. Two different goals here that you are conflating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:05 AM
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Women are (generally) attracted to attractive men regardless if they are misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:58 PM
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Women initiate the overwhelming majority of breakups and divorces. Women control access to sex, they are the buyers in the casual sexual marketplace so it’s not men’s fault for women being 304s. Average guy struggles to get a tinder date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:56 PM
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Men peak in their 20s physical attractiveness, but women generally prioritize non physical attractive cues like status over physical looks. Therefore men’s mate value peaks in their late 30s at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:41 PM
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Cold approach pick up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:31 PM
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Once a girl, always a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:30 PM
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That is monkey branching, just quicker than normal. There is no honor in what you did
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:28 PM
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It’s supposed to be a compliment grandma
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:26 PM
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You can either understand or respect women, but not both
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:25 PM
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Nice guys still approach women. They just get rejected more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:24 PM
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Red pill is right. You can either understand women or respect women as equals, but you don’t do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:24 PM
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There is no point in asking this question to women. Firstly, women tend to not know what they want. Secondly, even if they do know what they want, there is going to be this strong selection bias because women who do like strong, dominant men usually are quiet compared to women who believe in modern feminism and egalitarianism. Also the demographics of female Redditors skews latter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:21 PM
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Totally disagree. The reproductive drive is extremely strong for women (and men, and basically any living organism). Being with a man for a woman is not fulfilling no matter how much women say they don’t need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:13 PM
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Patriarchy only benefits the men at the top. Because they control the highest share of the resources, power, and sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:11 PM
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🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:30 PM
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Ok but some people have it worse than others. A lot worse
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:40 AM
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Women will get the things they want like usually provisioning (even women who make money want a man to make more than him so he can provide), protection, emotional support, attention, good dick, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:40 AM
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No they didn’t, it was always known it was a degenerative disease of modern societies. Because native or more traditional societies did not suffer from them. If you can’t accept that hair greying and skin wrinkling is apart of normal aging, you are definitely a conspiracy theorist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:59 AM
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Everything I said was facts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:56 AM
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Many women have zero interest in the “protector / provider” narrative that men seem obsessed with. Last time I checked almost all women want a man bigger and stronger than them. If a women gets assaulted, women will expect the man to provide protection We are actually looking for a partner, not a mindless servant… Women are looking for leaders. Partners implies equal status. Women (at least subconsciously) want the man to be higher status than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:37 AM
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So… women want an ATM emotional tampon bodyguard 🤢🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:34 AM
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Wrinkles and grey hair is not a disease, it’s the normal aging process
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:22 AM
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It’s easy. Just don’t be a 304, don’t be annoying, don’t talk too much, don’t try to be dominant or demanding, obey, cook and clean without being asked, and spread your legs when asked
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:22 AM
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I don't really have fine lines or grey hair, and even if I did, I would treat them with botox and dye. I don't hide my age
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:20 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:08 AM
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Who settles?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:53 PM
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This is not a gotcha moment. I said in my judgement it is morally acceptable to have sex with a 16 year old (with no cognitive impairments). So if someone else thinks it’s okay to have sex with a 16 year old with Down syndrome, I think that’s immoral and so I would disagree with that person. Also I don’t even think that’s legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:43 PM
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People with Down syndrome have a SEVERE mental impairment. This is not comparable to a 16 year old without Down syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:09 PM
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There is no way to prove it, it is subjective. That’s why there are different age of consents in different jurisdictions. And it’s not just my judgement, it’s my society’s judgement, that’s why it’s codified into law
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:58 PM
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Down syndrome is a severe cognitive impairment so I do have a problem with that. I never said this was okay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:48 PM
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Down syndrome is a severe cognitive impairment so I do have a problem with that. I never said this was okay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:47 PM
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You deserve a gold medal for your level of mental gymnastics. I am fairly certain that 16 year olds girls can generally consent to have sex on a practical level. Therefore if it is legal too, like it is in my state, I have no moral qualms with this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:25 PM
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Its not a problem for the bad boys and the women but I don think the nice guys it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:18 PM
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I clearly articulated why I think 16 year olds can generally consent on a practical level, I’m pretty certain about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:04 PM
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Many good guys get passed up for bad boys, I agree. But this is more so for short term mating, most commonly when women are young. But when women get older and they are “done with their crazy party years and looking to settle down” typically she’ll finally get with the nice guy who’s actually good for her. This is why they say nice guys finish last
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:56 PM
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Most men want casual sex, have you never been on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:47 PM
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The same way you are, I’m using my best judgement + biological facts. There is no exact formula to determine at what exact age one has sufficient cognitive ability to be able to consent to sex. It’s a subjective question, that’s why legal age of consents vary from state to state, country to country
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:46 PM
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Because the 16 year old’s cognitive abilities are sufficient enough to make an informed decision about sex. You asking this question is like saying a 18 year old doesn’t have the same cognitive ability as a 30 year old, so the legal age should be raised to 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:33 PM
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Right but I think 16 year olds have the cognitive ability to understand sex and make informed decisions about that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:23 PM
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Senile people have cognitive impairments that makes them unable to make normal every day decisions so no. Teenagers are not cognitively impaired like that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 09:05 PM
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Yes I think those are very good indicators
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:55 PM
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Per the DSM, they may or not be a pedophile depending on how sexually developed that 13 year old is. In my opinion I agree with the DSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:33 PM
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In general (of course there are some exceptions), I do think so. I think it’s evidenced by the fact that the average age of female menses is 12 so most of the females have been sexually mature for years, most surveyed females say they already lost their virginity by about this age, and overall from my experience (when I was that age) it seemed to me that they were able to sufficiently consent to the sexual activities they decided to engage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:32 PM
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Having sufficient cognitive ability about something to make a reasonably informed decision
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:05 PM
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Good for you👍 however biology doesn’t care about your opinion. Most men find 20 year olds attractive (if they’re being honest) because they are in peak fertility
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:03 PM
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If they are able to consent, I don’t see any moral problems. I don’t see it any different than dating someone their own age
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:56 PM
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You are inferring things I’m not meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:51 PM
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I don’t want an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:20 PM
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“Underage” is subjective. That can mean any age from 13-21 depending on the jurisdiction
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:19 PM
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Thank you. I used to be a nice guy in my teens but after I started becoming more of a cocky asshole with women I notice get more interest from them. I can’t speak for other men but I think a lot of them are catching on now thanks to the explosion of red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:18 PM
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I’m saying everything I want to say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:16 PM
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I already told you so I will copy and paste You said that if it was legal guys would go younger than 18. I agreed and said most of our ancestors did too because of biology. What is your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:13 PM
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Yes men care about quantity. Most men struggle getting even getting dates, barely get any matches online that go anywhere, constantly get rejected in real life. So yes quantity is important to the sex that doesn’t get bombarded with attention. Can you please answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:03 PM
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I didn’t say that I would, I just said there are some jurisdictions where the legal age is 13 so “underage” is a subjective term. Idc what you’re attracted to, but the fact that men are hardwired to find the fertile women sexually attractive, which is young biological women, is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:00 PM
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“Underage kids” is a subjective term. This can mean age 13 to age 21 depending on the jurisdiction. Also our sexual biologically is essentially the same, mine is not really different than yours
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:07 PM
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Who gets more pussy, on average, bad boys or nice guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:06 PM
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You just said it’s not pedophilia. You are being emotional trying to slander people to make it seem like you’re right something even though you’re not. You said that if it was legal guys would go younger than 18. I agreed and said most of our ancestors did too because of biology. What is your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:01 PM
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I’m pointing out the biological realities
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:54 PM
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If ephephilia is not a disorder what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:47 PM
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According to the DSM that’s not even a disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:40 PM
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What is your definition of pedophilia? I’m not defending pedophilia, I am talking about biological realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:38 PM
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Feminism makes some correct observations about male-female dynamics but they are totally wrong when it comes to why they exist and what to do about it because they ignore biology. For example, feminism says the world is a patriarchy, which red pillers would generally agree. It’s hard to deny that when in almost every single country men hold most of the political, financial, and military power. However feminism will blame patriarchy on men conspiring to oppress women to dominate them and keep the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:37 PM
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It’s evidence that most men would do it if it was legal. Because biologically and genetically we are essentially the same as our past male ancestors
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:24 PM
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Women have been gaslighting men about liking nice guys for generations now. And to a lesser extent looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:23 PM
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They want this double standards where women will have all the rights and benefits while not having responsibility or accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:17 PM
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Yes most would. Matter of fact most of our male ancestors did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:16 PM
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Capital punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:15 PM
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16 is legal age of consent in my jurisdiction. I think this is fair because basically all females have reached biological adulthood by this age frankly most of them at 16 already have some sort of sexual experience “An adult is a human or other animal that has reached full growth.[1] The biological definition of the word means an animal reaching sexual maturity and thus capable of reproduction.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:13 PM
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This is common sense. If this wasn’t true, only Instagram supermodels would be getting hit on and below average women would get no male attention. The reality for men is that if there is no possibility of success, there is not point in hitting on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:11 PM
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I disagree. You can accept biological realities (ie the red pill) but still have emotions about them (ie anger). Just like you can accept death, but still feel sad about death
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:08 PM
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I’m not trying to. I’m just bringing up a new topic. Unless you’ll really want to go back to the old topic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:03 PM
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Only in the efforts of proving the point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:11 PM
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I’m not trying to pick on the individual, I’m trying to pick on the position
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:02 PM
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If casual sex is so bad for women then why do they keep doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:32 AM
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You totally strawmaned what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:32 AM
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Why is porn misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:48 PM
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I am sure sometimes you have used more than your imagination. If not you soon will after you keep getting horny for all this time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:05 PM
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That’s an honest observation I noticed. It’s not rude if it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:05 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:00 PM
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Don’t be rude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:00 PM
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Their feelings aren’t rational in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:00 PM
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What do you do when you get horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:57 PM
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I notice that women often act like a chameleon trying to camouflage when asked these type of questions. For instance, a woman will complain about women paying 50/50 on bills, then I will ask “do you believe in gender equality?”, (now she anticipates I will box her into the gender equality position which implies women must provide equally) so she says “no I don’t, I’m not a feminist”. Then the next day she will complain about gender pay gap, orgasm gap, patriarchy, etc. Women tend to not have a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:50 PM
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Fair enough. But I would say that most women who watch romances/eroticas still dont like it when men watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:38 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:34 PM
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But you watch romances and eroticas of people you don’t know I’m sure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:32 PM
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Ok but this discussion is about the marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:37 PM
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Hypergamy is in regards to overall attractiveness, not just physical attractiveness. Beautiful women are rarely with broke, contextually low status, ugly men. There is a plethora of research supporting the existence of female hypergamy, it is basically the scientific consensus now I agree people are less social nowadays, but that’s not the root cause of why women are more sexually selective than men and large swaths of men are sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:15 PM
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You don’t care about men who are suffering? Very insensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:10 PM
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It is legit data from okcupid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:40 PM
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What should we do to solve inceldom?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:40 PM
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Do you watch romances or erotica?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:39 PM
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So in your example, I should blame men for the porn industry? Because if they’re only making what the consumers want, they’re not doing anything wrong! Yes exactly. They are just fulfilling market demand. A good analogy is the liquor store, you can’t blame the store for why there are alcoholics All of the young men being subjected to brain altering content from the age of 9 years old, are nothing but dirty consumers! Surely the porn and movie industry doesn’t prey on young people in any way. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:38 PM
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Again, this is lack of female accountability. “Hollywood” is a business that pushes things that the market wants, because that’s how they make money. If Hollywood was to make G rated movies about lessons from the Bible, Hollywood would go out of business because most people aren’t going to be interested. Hollywood makes movies the market find appealing and sexy like 50 shades, because that’s what the market (women) want! Do not blame Hollywood, blame the market (women). A woman made that meme. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:51 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:44 PM
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In a sense I agree, the average guy is unattractive. But this is due to women’s hypergamy, they are driven to mate up. The average girl does not want the average guy, she wants an above average guy. So the average guy is unattractive to most women. So there are more amounts of men who are unnattractive than the number of women who are unnattractive. The effects of female hypergamy is the reason why marriage and fertility rates are all time low. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:44 PM
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Now you’re admitting you were wrong, you didn’t before. You need to take accountability for watching the rape/abuse content you used to watch. You are trying to blame your friends but it’s not their fault that YOU watched it. If I had a friend who asked me to watch gay porn, whose fault would it be if I decided to watch it? I think most women think that it’s okay to consume that type of content because of the popularity of that type of content. It is by far the best selling romance books so stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:37 PM
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It is a “gotcha” moment, that’s why you can’t refute it. You don’t want a man who watches rape/abuse content, even though you watched rape/abuse content. When men watch rape, it’s misogynistic. When you women like you watch rape, it’s “so what?”. That is a massive double standard that you are unable to content with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:23 PM
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Average guy puts in all this money, time, and energy only to get rejected most of the time, flaked on, used for his attention/money, hardly gets intamcy, etc. If he does get a decent acting girl it is probably a fugly or single mom below his league
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:19 PM
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Having sex with a woman after she says no and the safe words is not rape anymore? https://www.al.com/entertainment/2015/02/lines_from_50_shades_of_grey_t.html This is a good example of female double standards whenever it’s beneficial
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:15 PM
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No actually most male animals are not monogamous. “Monogamy in mammals is rather rare, only occurring in 3–9% of these species.”https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monogamy_in_animals I do not agree about the parts you added. Nobody should use anybody, but realistically a lot of women use men and the reverse. Romance is a real thing but romance has conditions, from men it’s contingent off of sexual access but from women it’s contingent on what value the man provides. Women typically don’t want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:05 PM
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Because most likely (based on statistics) she is doing xyz herself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:53 PM
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Right, women’s innate mating strategy is focused on quality while men’s is quantity. When women are fertile, I agree their sex drive is as strong as men. But women aren’t fertile for as long as men are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:48 PM
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I’d rather have sex with 100 “bad girls” than 1 “good girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:43 PM
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I am just pointing out the double standard because it’s related to the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:40 PM
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I agree. That’s what I mean by most women have engaged in casual sex multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:40 PM
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It’s common knowledge that males are hardwired to be driven to spread their seed. With any other male animal, like if we were breeding dogs or cows, this would not even be controversial. It’s just with humans people will try to dispute this basic biological fact because of social condition and ego investments. The main constraint for most men not to do this is lack of sexual options. Being loyal for a man and woman is different. For example, when it comes to sacrificing one’s life for each other…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:39 PM
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I’m new here I didn’t know that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:58 PM
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Because this is a question for women they will remove my comment if I don’t post under a woman’s comment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:56 PM
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This is an oversimplification of men but it is true most of the time. Most men who are given an easy, low investment, attractive woman to cheat with, most men will cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:54 PM
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I don’t know you personally I’m just speaking in general. Most women don’t like when men watch porn, especially abusive porn. Meanwhile women are the overwhelmingly consume romances involving the same “abuse” they cry about and they usually have pornographic scenes as well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:52 PM
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No most women have done it MULTIPLE times. But on women aren’t hardwired to be as permiscuous as men so obviously a woman won’t have sex with as many people as a man would (if he had unlimited options)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:49 PM
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What about porn is a turn off?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:47 PM
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50 shades of grey entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:47 PM
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Women overwhelmingly consume content involving BDSM like 50 shades of grey. This is a double standard <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:45 PM
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I would feel insecure if he watched a lot of porn that depicts something he can't get from me. What about all the women who watch 50 shades of grey? Most men aren’t billionaires, over 6 ft tall, or very handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:44 PM
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50 shades of grey contains abuse against women, I bet you find that acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:42 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:41 PM
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Classic double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:39 PM
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You are the one who brought up there are studies to support your view, so you must bring up the studies first. I agree men are more interested in casual sex than women, but the number of people who actually do engage in it are about the same. There is a difference between women not being as interested in men versus women not being interested at all. A good analogy is who is more interested in marriage, men or women? Obviously women, but the amount of married men and women are about the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:30 PM
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Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Drake, Chris Brown haven’t accomplished much?
/r/RedPillWomen02/06/25 02:20 PM
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You summed things up very well. Basically men have to spend tons of money, time, and energy for women who don’t provide much value in return. If you are an average or especially below average mate value man, the ROI is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:01 PM
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Please show me a study where that shows most women haven’t engaged in casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:55 PM
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Why is the treatment of the women you are interessted in dependent on her looks? Same reason why women treat men in accordance to his looks <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:52 PM
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He’s probably average to the marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:35 PM
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Why would a woman’s standard for how she wants to be treated adjust according to how attractive you find her? Because women (generally) treat men in accordance how attractive they find the man. That’s why celebrities can screw women backstage without a date meanwhile that same woman will demand to be taken out on a bunch of expensive dates from an average guy trying to date her before giving up weak starfish sex. If you’re choosing to pay for dates and give gifts to women and then resenting thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:34 PM
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<image> This applies here. The fact of the matter is that MOST women engage (or if they are in relationships previously engaged in) casual sex. This is true regardless of how many of your friends take engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:27 PM
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Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:52 AM
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What people think is different from the facts on the ground. People, often women, will tell men all you need to do is the bare minimum shower and groom yourself and you will get women. Buts just not the facts on the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:47 AM
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That “possible reason” does not explain the most common reasons why they are incels. I said “the most common root cause” meaning they’re incels more times because of their poor looks rather than poor personality. We dont have to know how each individual incel looks like to understand most of them get no women cuz they’re physically unattractive. Not all, but most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 01:14 AM
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I am trying to be intellectually honest. You are trying to center the argument of the root cause of incels around them having bad personalities. But that’s not the root cause, they have pissy personalities as a byproduct of them being undesirable to women. The most common root cause of incels is their looks and we need to be honest about that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:06 PM
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Lmao. So women are insecure for having their preferences. Men are insecure for having their preferences. I wouldn’t agree but it’s fair that you have consistency
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:57 PM
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Lmao they would be very defensive about that. If I went up to a woman and called her insecure for wanting a tall man, she’d call me an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:56 PM
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Ok then why are you trying to invalidate incels have lack of mating success because they’re ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:54 PM
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Even if a woman is interested, 9/10 times men have to initiate most of the advances listed above
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:49 PM
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Ok so women who prefer taller men “feel” insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:39 PM
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That’s the scientific term
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:12 PM
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It’s not an insult if it’s true. A woman who exposes her body online is a 304, under the colluqueal definition
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:05 PM
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"When the debate is lost, insults become the loser's tool." -Socrates
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:01 PM
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And which stage in life she’s in. (Which part of the dualistic mating strategy she is prioritizing)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:56 PM
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You are conflating physical attractiveness with overall attractiveness. OP finds the IG model type more physically attractive but finds more meek girls more attractive in other regards. It does not make a man insecure for not wanting an immodest women who sexually expose themselves. You don’t have to like the term 304s, but it’s undeniable that some women are indeed 304s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:55 PM
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Ok. Are women insecure for wanting taller men? Because they are insecure for about the need for protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:49 PM
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Ok, fine, we’ll use your logic. Now if women prefer taller men, are they insecure? Because it’s not rational in today’s modern world for women to want a physical protector because we live in civil societies where taller men aren’t necessary to protect because we live have advanced weapons like guns, police, and overall very low rates of violent crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:47 PM
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That can work for women but not for men. Men don’t just go out and “things happen”. Men are expected to initiate everything from a to z. Everything from approaching the girl, carrying the conversation, asking for the girls number, asking the girl out on a date, planning the date, etc. Women don’t have to plan because the man already takes care of the plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:43 PM
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Ok I see what you’re saying now. I think the semantics are being confused here. You are conflating beauty (aka physical attractiveness) with attractiveness in general. An IG baddie is more beautiful than an average looking girl who may be a virgin. However investing in a 304 is so repulsive for long term relationships, that many men will find the average looking virgin woman overall more attractive than an IG baddie for a long term relationship. If you think that’s pathetic, women do a very simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:39 PM
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Honestly, if men don’t want their women to expose their sexual body parts, it is not insecure. It is a preference rooted in evolution and biology (to ensure paternal certainty)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:28 PM
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No she is an immodest woman. Men generally prefer purer women, though men will sacrifice that for beauty to an extent depending on the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:27 PM
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Do you disagree that incels usually are physically unattractive which makes them struggle with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:16 PM
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Men preferring purer women does not make them insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:59 PM
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For short term mating- attractive provocative girl Long term mating- pure, meek unattractive girl
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:58 PM
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I wouldn’t recommend the first three subs. They are pro female echo chambers
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 06:21 AM
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Is there an income disparity between you two?
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/25 03:51 PM
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