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| 1 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)Thanks for the reply. It feels good to know that there are women like you in the world. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/07/25 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)You are helpful and don't mind writing a long reply, I'm grateful that you took the time to reply. Thanks for helping me and everyone else who reads here get rid of red pill beliefs. I understand that it's frustrating engaging with people like me who worry about red pill being true to some extent, because it's very hard to get rid of these beliefs, at least for me, I guess because it scares you and you can't stop worrying about it and start to only notice evidence for red pill and forget other e… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/07/25 01:19 PM |
| 3 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)I think I understand now. When you talked about having a skill i leaped to what I've seen red pillers and evolutionary psychologists say about how men needs to compete for status by being impressive somehow. It sounds more like you're talking about someone who's fun to be around and passionate about life though? Obviously I'd like a girlfriend who's that and not a couch potato. Sharing an interest for something would be the ideal I guess. I hope you and others here at exredpill are right since r… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/07/25 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)Why do men need some special skill in something in your opinion? As a man, I don't care at all if a woman as a special skill, so I can't relate to why that's important to feeling attracted to someone. Can you explain? | /r/ExRedPill | 21/07/25 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)Thanks for the advice, lol | /r/ExRedPill | 20/07/25 09:41 PM |
| 0 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)What about the dating expert who said that most men suck, did she say that because most men seems untrustworthy? That's a weird way of expressing it, if so. I don't doubt that what you say is true, but there seems to be more going on than just that. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/07/25 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)Thanks for the link. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/25 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)Thanks for the link. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/25 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)I guess it means things like basic hygiene, dressing in decent clothes, having decent enough social skills, trying to have an interesting life or some hobby of some sort, etc. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/25 03:38 PM |
| -3 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)I hope that what you said about how women like men with a skill and are funny doesn't mean they do that in a picky way, where only the funniest and skilled men are attractive. Being skilled at something and funny requires intelligence and since most men are average in intelligence I don't know if they can develop an impressive skill or be particularly funny, even if they tried hard to learn it. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/25 03:35 PM |
| -3 | Do women seem picky because many men don't put enough effort into being attractive? (not meeting easily met basic requirements)I appreciate your encouraging reply, but when I talk about pickyness I don't mean just looks, but also charms, social skills and social status, which afaik women value more than looks. I hope that what you said about how men need to be driven, knowledgable, skilled about something and funny doesn't mean that they have to be that in competition and be at the top, because that would still suggest to me that women are picky, even if they don't care much about looks. By the way, when I talk about pi… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/07/25 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Robert Sapolsky, a neurobiologist professor, says that humans are half-way in between being pair-bonding/monogamous and competitive/only a minority of men finds mates - what does people here think of this and does it suggest that RP isn't completely incorrect about hypergamy?I read your links, interesting. If you really were able to debunk the claims made by these scientists its strange how incompetent they are. While your writings look right, I'm still not completely sure if I believe that you really debunked them simply because they are scientists who you'd expect should know what they're doing. Why do you think a lot of evolutionary psychologists parrot red pill/black pill talking points? That makes me think that there must be a reason they do that, like that a l… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/25 09:24 PM |
| 1 | I am so interested in what is keeping men in TRP+ my woman experienceSorry for misunderstanding. I still think romantic love is shallow, but that for a relationship to be healthy we must probably behave as if it isn't shallow I guess. The reason I think it's shallow is that I don't see how it could not be if it's important to be sexually attracted to your partner for their looks, status, charm, life competency etc, so even if we feel like our love is deep and would still exist even if the person we love lost these things, I don't think that's true. People will sa… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/07/25 05:26 PM |
| 1 | I am so interested in what is keeping men in TRP+ my woman experienceWhy do you recommend being ambitious if women don't care about it? Also, do you think attraction and romantic love is shallow and transactional? I mean that it's based on status, indicators for genetic quality, looks, charm etc and not something that exists beyond these things, like how people talk about "real love" being for the person beyond all of this and that it can't be broken by losing these things. I hope I made it clear what I mean, it's hard to explain. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/07/25 03:41 PM |
| 1 | I am so interested in what is keeping men in TRP+ my woman experienceI hear you, but can you answer clearly about whether you think that women feel like men need to achieve impressive things/gain status in order to be attractive/have value as a human? What if a man can't achieve something impressive? Most men couldn't achieve something impressive I think, either because they lack the capability or they don't have the mental strength needed. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/07/25 02:33 PM |
| 2 | I am so interested in what is keeping men in TRP+ my woman experienceWhen you say be ambitious, do you mean that men need to be higher "status" than the woman/achieve something impressive to be attractive to women? Do you agree with red pill that men need to create their value through achievements in the world, while women have inherent value? | /r/ExRedPill | 06/07/25 01:33 PM |
| 1 | I am so interested in what is keeping men in TRP+ my woman experienceThe insidious part of TRP: there's a lot of truth about it but it's laced with pure nonsense. What do you think is true about red pill? | /r/ExRedPill | 06/07/25 01:12 PM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyChatGPT was wrong. I looked up OkCupid's blog post and it said the opposite, women judge men's looks more harshly than men judge women's looks, but are less picky than men with who they message. What's interesting is that when you ask men who judge men's looks, they're almost exactly as harsh as women. I don't know what that means. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/25 09:40 PM |
| 3 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyThanks for your reply | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/25 09:37 PM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyThat makes sense. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/06/25 10:59 AM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyBecause research into what we find attractive and the evolutionary psychology explanations for that suggests that humans are just like animals with how we select mates: we're hard wired by evolution to fall in love with people based on health, beauty, status, genetic quality etc. I think that love is shallow in general and based on these things. Mentally ill, disabled or mentally disabled people are treated badly in society and as if they have less worth than healthy people. Ugly people are trea… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/06/25 02:22 PM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyMaybe it's cultural, but it's hard for me to imagine how you can feel satisfied in a relationship if your wife wasn't attracted to you or liked being with you or enjoyed your company. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/06/25 02:10 PM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyMany men might want casual sex, but my impression is that most men and women want a relationship, at least at some point, with a partner who loves them for who they are, a bond that's called "real love", not for their looks, smarts, status etc, which is why you see people become upset and defensive when someone says that love is shallow. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/06/25 02:08 PM |
| 2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyThe study can be seen here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180406045814if_/https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e Unfortunetly the link doesn't seem to work now for some reason. It worked yesterday. I didn't know that how you word your question can affect ChatGPT's answer. Anyway, it was wrong when it said that women were picky with who they messaged, so I've learned my lesson in trusting AI. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/06/25 02:02 PM |
| 2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyYes, I've learned that lesson for sure. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 09:27 PM |
| 2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyYes, ChatGPT might be better at diagnosis than doctors but at the same time it can't even describe OKCupid's research accurately. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 09:26 PM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyWell I don't know about you but I imagine that most people would feel sad if their partner didn't really like them or feel attracted to them and was only with them because they couldn't find a partner who they felt attracted to. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 09:23 PM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyYou mean why is it a problem that love is shallow and based on these things? Well, it probably means that many people are unlovable and can only be in relationships because people settle for them, because their looks, smarts, status etc aren't impressive enough. It probably means that many people feel insecure in relationships, since the reasons their partner loves them are based on things that can be lost, if they lose a job, become sick, etc. There are many things I can think of. Most people b… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 09:20 PM |
| 2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyFrom what I've read they used ChatGPT in that study. But yeah, it's apparently having problems describing the results of OkCupid's research, so I've no idea whats going on with its accuracy. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 09:01 PM |
| 3 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyWhy are you so rude? I'm here to learn about anti-red pill arguments and ask questions and you insult me. So people on this forum aren't allowed to ask questions? I thought it was meant for people who learned Red Pill and then wants to unlearn and challenge the beliefs. The study about ChatGPT was shared on many news sites, including New York Times, by more people than this Ben Kessler. (including a medical website: https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/features/109444) But it doesn't mat… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 05:39 PM |
| 3 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyI'll go into the site then. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:55 PM |
| 3 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyMy browser warns me that this website isn't safe to use. Do you have another link? | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:39 PM |
| 2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyYes, apparently ChatGPT is wrong when it said that women were picky with their messaging, as I read the blog post by OkCupid about the data | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:37 PM |
| 2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyI see, it's weird to me how it can be so hard for AI to just regurgitate straight facts. It seems like that should be easy. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:32 PM |
| -2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyI believe that love is shallow and based on looks, smarts, status, genetic quality, so it's not strange to me that anyone would talk shit about their partner, whether they're with them for their looks, status, money etc. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:18 PM |
| 5 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyYes, ChatGPT is wrong when it says that women only messaged the most handsome. I've definitely learned a lesson in trusting AI. So if men rates men's appearance as harshly as women does, it seems to suggest that it's not something about women's sexuality but rather how men looks. Thanks for sharing that. Interesting | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:07 PM |
| 5 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyI just read the study and you're right, ChatGPT is wrong. I've learned a lesson in trusting AI. I thought it was pretty accurate, since according to research ChatGPT is more accurate at diagnosing people than doctors. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 04:00 PM |
| -10 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyMy impression that ChatGPT is pretty accurate comes from a study that showed that ChatGPT was better at making diagnosis than doctors https://qz.com/chatgpt-beat-doctors-at-diagnosing-diseases-1851701953 | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 03:42 PM |
| -3 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyYes, but we don't know of their wives and girlfriends are really into them or if they just settled. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 03:40 PM |
| 1 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyhttps://qz.com/chatgpt-beat-doctors-at-diagnosing-diseases-1851701953 | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 03:37 PM |
| -7 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyI had the impression that ChatGPT was pretty accurate for the most part, but I'll try to find the study and read it myself then. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 02:51 PM |
| -2 | People here have said many times that according to OkCupid's research, while women think that the majority of men are less attractive than average, they are still less picky than men with who they message, but according to ChatGPT this isn't true according to the studyMy impression was that ChatGPT is pretty accurate. It's accurate enough to be better than doctors at making diagnoses acording to research, so for the most part it works fine it seems. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/06/25 02:49 PM |
| 1 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I was wondering if these men are people-pleasers, like you described, but I thought that since the woman describing them is a psychologist she would've noticed a people-pleaser personality I guessed, but maybe she missed it? Yes there's nothing wrong with ending relationships, but the psychologists I showed in the op makes it sound like many women are attracted to toxic men and can't stay in relationships if they're healthy. But again, maybe the men they're describing aren't healthy but are peop… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/06/25 11:20 PM |
| 1 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I guess so. I hope that's the case and that these women's behavior aren't representative of something inherent in women.. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/05/25 10:12 AM |
| 2 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I guess you could be right. I hope so, because red pill is very depressing. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/25 11:20 AM |
| 1 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?The reason I called the men "feminist men" are because the quote I shared said that these men might meet your expectations of gender politics, which I assume are feminism. When I said "someone said that research shows" I was talking about one of the replies that I got here where someone was arguing against my post and the opinion of these psychologists. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/25 11:18 AM |
| 2 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I really hope you're right and that my impression of dating is too negative. Maybe it's my depression that makes me have a negative lens and bias. There seems to be evidence for the negative views though, like the ones I mentioned, but there's also evidence I guess for the more positive view as well, and maybe it's stronger and the women for example I mentioned in my post are in a minority view and are biased but then gets a lot of attention because negative, scary news sell. Thanks for replying… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/25 11:13 AM |
| 1 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?My impression was that the average attractive men struggle until eventually women reach an age where they give up scoring a more attractive man and settle for the average men, but they're still not attracted to them. That's how most people end up in relationships even though women are generally not attracted to average men. I've seen several feminists complain about how unattractive and repulsive most men are, while most women are great. Red pillers would see this as evidence of women's pickynes… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/05/25 10:53 AM |
| 0 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I'm not completely convinced that red pill doesn't speak some truth when they say that women are picky and that average men with average qualities and social status will struggle because of women's pickyness. I guess that you disagree? So what about men with problems in life? I for example have depression, ptsd and chronic fatigue and live on disability. I've pretty much given up on finding someone. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 10:12 AM |
| 2 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?Just having nice qualities doesn't mean you'll find someone eventually. You make it sound so easy, but for many men it's incredibly hard to find a partner, or that is my impression from reading what men write online. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 08:50 AM |
| 3 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?In the article she describes these caring, good, feminist (I guess) men and implies that the men that the women are attracted to are different, which implies that they aren't caring, don't view women as equals, don't listen to their opinions etc. Isn't that toxic? Someone said that research shows the opposite of what these psychologists are saying, that the biggest things for a good sex life is communication and equality, so maybe you're right that this article isn't saying much about most women… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/05/25 08:27 AM |
| 0 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?But she isn't saying that they leave their husbands for no reason, but that they leave them because they have feel no sexual attraction to them. Isn't that a reason? | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 11:39 PM |
| 1 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?I see. Thanks for replying, I appreciate it. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 10:45 PM |
| 2 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?Got it. And everything you say is based on research? | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 10:34 PM |
| -1 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?So you're saying that according to research these women who are only sexually attracted to masculine, toxic men are a minority and not the norm? | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 09:56 PM |
| -4 | According to these female psychologists, women lose sexual attraction to men who treat them well, are respectful and believe in equality, and instead desire more masculine, toxic men - thoughts?The marriage counselor describes these men like this: "I am currently dealing with several of these great husbands. They are, across the board, respectful, quality, caring, devoted, cherishing, authentic, and supportive guys whose wives have left them for a different kind of man. These once-beloved men make a living, love their kids, help with chores, support aging parents, and support their mate's desires and interests. They believe they've done everything right. They are devastated, confused, … | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/25 09:32 PM |
| 0 | Still believe that women will leave for betterYour comment is good evidence for how shallow romantic love really is, something few are willing to admit. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/04/25 09:08 PM |
| 0 | This is what real love is aboutThis sounds like a bunch of woo-woo. I think humans are like any other animal and chooses partners for simple, useful reasons. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/04/25 09:02 PM |
| -1 | Many women are attracted to psychopathic personality traits according to studyWell the scientists who wrote the article seem to think that that study and the other data in the article is enough to make general statements that women find psychopathic traits attractive. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/03/25 08:37 PM |
| -1 | Many women are attracted to psychopathic personality traits according to studyYou make some decent points but in the article they said that women who are trained in psychology and are working with psychopathic inmates often sleep with them, so if they know that these men are rotten to the core but still sleep with them, it shows that it's the psychopathy that is attractive and not that they are fooled. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/03/25 08:19 PM |
| -2 | Many women are attracted to psychopathic personality traits according to studyI'm not entirely convinced your take on the article isn't a bit skewed. The extreme success of Fifty Shades Of Grey is another point of evidence that many women like bad boys. According to what I've read the love interest in the book is written as a psychopath with abusive and obsessive traits. But even if women liking bad boys or psychopaths isn't as common as red pill claims, I still think there's plenty of evidence that love is shallow. Plenty of that is shown in r/blackpillscience. I'm not j… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/03/25 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Many women are attracted to psychopathic personality traits according to studyMaybe, but it seems like the scientists behind the article thought that they could make assumptions about women in general based on the data. Since they're clever, educated scientists it must mean there's not a problem. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/03/25 02:57 PM |
| 0 | Many women are attracted to psychopathic personality traits according to studyWell the article certainly gave at least me the impression they're saying it's quite common. And wasn't Fifty Shades Of Grey extremely popular with women? I've read that the love interest in the book is basically written as a psychopath with abusive and obsessive traits. If the scientists behind the article felt like they could use research from prisons, doesn't that mean there isn't a problem with doing that? | /r/ExRedPill | 28/03/25 02:52 PM |
| -3 | Many women are attracted to psychopathic personality traits according to studyI actually hoped someone could debunk the scientist's opinion on this article since this article and the whole red pill is depressing. I thought that if the scientists behind the article thinks that they can make general statements about women in general based on a study with 108 young women and all the data from elsewhere in the article there shouldn't be a problem doing so. They're clever, educated scientists after all. About women leaving charming psychopathic men when they find out that they… | /r/ExRedPill | 28/03/25 02:51 PM |
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