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Sounds like the women you know are just boring in bed and shitty conversationalists.
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 07:27 AM
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What does that even look like as a facial expression though?
/r/MGTOW22/07/18 07:25 AM
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It's not, AWALT and AMALT are statistically impossible. EWALT is definitely true though. Just because "only" 90% of the jelly beans in the bowl are poisoned doesn't mean it would be smart to eat any. Sure, it's within the realm of possibility you'll get a nonpoisonous jelly bean/meet a empathetic, non-hypergamous woman since we do exist... but it's not likely and it's better to not hinge one's happiness on finding one. MGTOW is still quite valid even though AWALT is false, hence why I support it…
/r/MGTOW15/07/18 11:36 AM
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If that's true, it's pretty interesting. There's tons of jokes and references about it in the media, most women and teenage girls know what it is, and in my own family it's openly spoken about by the older women like our mom's, grandmothers, and aunts. Heck, we learned all about menopause and andropause when I was in 10th grade Health class, and I didn't go to a fancy private school or anything. Andropause/menopause is just the decline of the core sex hormones in a person's body, typically occur…
/r/MGTOW14/06/18 11:37 AM
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I absolutely agree. Which is why I am not a feminist, and have never once referred to myself as one. I am a secular humanitarian and egalitarian.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 07:54 PM
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Yes, people who have multiple, non-exclusive partners and don't get tested are indeed more likely to have STDs. That doesn't have anything to do with people (of any orientation) who actually have exclusive, STD free partners and are in good sexual health prior to entering those relationships. Also, I find it hysterical that you believe I lack the ability to comprehend your rather biased opinion, given that I'm a Mensa member. But hey, feel free to remain ignorant and arrogant when speaking to pe…
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 04:24 PM
1

True. There are many hypocrites and liars in the world.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 04:10 PM
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Why is my relationship disgusting to you? Do you also find Red Pill men who "spin plates" and have numerous relationships with multiple women disgusting? I'd say they tend to be far worse, since they are not typically open about it and their partners don't know they are having sex with other people. What exactly am I agitating? I'm not a feminist, I actually loathe both Traditionalism and Feminism. I'm simply in favor of human beings who live their lives as they see fit, so long as it hurts no o…
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 03:44 PM
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I don't have any need for "total control" over anyone, no. Other than control over myself and my own life choices, obviously, but most adults including yourself want that. I do have two bearded dragons, but they were rescues from my local SPCA who doesn't typically accept such animals. I adopted them because they needed a safe and loving home with someone who had previous experience caring for reptiles, not to have control over them.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 01:20 PM
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Holy shit...
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 01:16 PM
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Thanks. Apparently other people aren't, but I'm guessing they actually wanted to procreate.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 01:10 PM
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Infants have no moral end state. They have a basic sense of empathy/sympathy for others, and learn the rest according to how they are raised. I'm unsure of what you mean by "dropped"?
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 01:04 PM
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Hardly.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 01:02 PM
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Then I am still not a feminist under your definition because I don't give a rats ass about female empowerment or privilege. I care about everyone having equal opportunities and responsibilities, which yes, includes women but also very much includes men. Men, who I'd also argue, currently have fewer privileges than women and thus need more assistance.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 01:02 PM
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You speak about egalitarianism and morals but women in polyamorous relationships with two cuck boyfriends doesn’t sound so egalitarian to me. Why does it not sound Egalitarian? Also, if I'm "cucking" them, they are also "cucking" me, because both of them are bisexual. My boyfriends have sex with me, but they also have sex with each other. In fact, they moved in together earlier this year, and I'm very happy for them. Now, if we were cheating behind each other's backs, you'd have a point. But eve…
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 12:59 PM
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I don't have any mood swings, but I agree with not wanting to share my company or genitals with you. I also wasn't telling you what to think, obviously you can do that on your own, as can most adults. If you tell me your opinion about what your favorite flavor of ice cream is, or what religion you think is best, or what your preferred method of government would be, are you telling me "what to think"? Of course not. You are giving an opinion, much as I was giving my opinion on what personality tr…
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 12:52 PM
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Nope, it's not affected.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 12:48 PM
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How so? Chivalry is inherently misandric, and I wish to see it gone.
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 12:47 PM
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Surely we're close though? Unless they start forcing men and women to get married/pay a "singlehood tax", or make paternity testing illegal, or something likewise unethical... how much further can we fall as a society?
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 10:22 PM
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You too, enjoy the rest of your weekend.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 10:19 PM
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I didn't deny they exist. I know quite a number of men who are loyal to their spouses, and also men who are honorable. However, I've also known women who are and I know without a doubt that I am. In other words, I'm not saying strawberries aren't red. I'm saying both strawberries and raspberries are red. However, sometimes these fruits go bad, and then they get discolored, but this can also happen to both.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 10:17 PM
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Loyalty is devotion of one's own volition. Correct. But then do you agree some (perhaps only a small percentage) of women have this masculine trait similar to how some men (cheaters/adulterers) lack this trait?
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 10:13 PM
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That would necessarily mean that 100% of women are Feminists, or at least agree with the basic ideology. As this is untrue, you cannot logically say that women = Feminism. That would be like saying men = incels or whites = the KKK.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 10:09 PM
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This is true of many women yes. EWALT to make going one's own way a decent choice.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 09:04 PM
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Which is also not a good way to raise children. However, the point is that baby girls and boys aren't immoral or evil upon birth. Infants are amoral, and become ethical people through the combination of strong positive nurturing and our our natural sense of empathy.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 09:02 PM
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Any evidence for this assertion? Loyalty is a trait of whoever is both a) taught it's value from an early age, and b) continues to hold on to that value into adulthood. If you want to call it a "masculine" trait that is fine so long as you understand that some women have masculine traits in the same way as some men have feminine traits.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 08:59 PM
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True, but I think it's worth working on. Obviously most MGTOW are different from MRAs in this regard. You tend to have a "watch the world burn" mentality rather than a "raise our voices against misandry" one, but I believe if enough men and women care the system will become more equal.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 08:58 PM
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I agree, and treat every man and woman as such. Western society (at least in the US where I live) is definitely as you say. Tradcons are constantly breathing down the neck of any male or female who has decided against marriage and procreation, Feminists can't seem to write an article or hold a Meetup without condemning "the patriarchy" or seeing male privilege in every facet of male/female interaction, and SJWs find a new "microaggression" to be offended about each day. I'm not only a WGTOW, but…
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 07:16 PM
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That's really good! I'm glad you are both happy and healthy, and hope you continue to be so.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 07:05 PM
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No, I think that's what the newest male procedure is. Essure is where they take a thin, flexible metal coil and insert one into each of your fallopian tubes. It creates a kind of scar tissue that effectively blocks sperm from reaching your eggs, thus eliminating the threat of pregnancy. It has an over 99% success rate, and is the easiest and quickest form of permanent birth control available. I'd say it's even better than a vasectomy, because it requires no cutting or anesthesia at all.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 05:56 PM
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Not every MGTOW believes that women are inherently bad though. One of my good friends irl is a MGTOW, and he puts no beliefs into biological determinism. Rather, he thinks that both boys and girls are able to be equally ethical or unethical, typically dependant on their upbringing. I agree with this view, because to say one's morals are connected to one's sex chromosomes is a view without supporting evidence. In other words, men and women alike can be cold, manipulative, narcissistic, heartless …
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 05:48 PM
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That's actually really interesting. So long as you don't have an underlying physical issue like diabetes or low blood pressure which I know can screw up one's sex drive or ability to maintain erections, then maybe you really did just kick what your mind considered a habit instead of a need. Which yeah, does have bigger implications for society at large. I know a woman who was previously straight and after being in two back-to-back abusive hetero relationships, essentially turned herself lesbian …
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 04:35 PM
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I'm going to guess that the reason you are getting downvotes is because you are a women who has entered a male space and is now throwing your opinion around and all of us here resent it. It's odd to consider a piece of the internet a "male space". Sounds like how the r/askwomen subreddit gets pissed when men offer their own take on questions or conversations going on there. Even when the men are supporting the women or hold the same exact opinions (like how I'm a WGTOW and actively spread and su…
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 04:21 PM
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But beverages don't have any morality attached to them. It's a drink, so it is amoral like a baby girl or boy who hasn't been taught anything yet. Adult women and men can be either moral or immoral, but no living person is inherently one or the other unless you count actual sociopaths who suffer from a true lack of empathy.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 03:43 PM
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Sure thing. If anything, I'll be even happier with my decision since having children at age 40 sounds absolutely idiotic. Who in their right mind would want to be waking up in the middle of the night at 40, or chasing toddlers/kids around in their 40s and 50s? No thanks, other people can go procreate.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 03:39 PM
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Isn't not wanting sex or not having a libido the definition of asexual though?
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 03:37 PM
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The woman in this clip. Thank the flying spaghetti monster that AWALT isn't true, I'd throw myself off a bridge if it was.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 03:37 PM
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Do you not want sex?
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:44 PM
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Ah, okay.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:41 PM
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You think beverages are evil too? 🤨
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:40 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by bringing up net worth, but yeah. If a woman assaulted you and you defend yourself, you should be able to "get away with it". It's odd to think of preventing harm to yourself as something to "get away with", though I understand why that is and hope society changes.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:39 PM
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Yeah, I agree with that. If someone punches you once in the jaw, that's obviously a very different crime than if they stabbed your shoulder with a knife. Running a stop sign is not the same as driving one's car on the sidewalk. So on, so forth. My point is that it does not matter if the driver of said car is a man or woman... they should receive the same sentence.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:36 PM
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I gave one example of sexual and potentially physical assault (basically if the perpetrator is using physical force to hold the student in place, or uses threats of bodily harm to prevent them fighting back) and two examples of purely physical assault. Sexual assault will typically involve some level of physical coercion alongside it, though I suppose this may not always be true. No goalposts have been moved in my comment. The point is that female criminals and male criminals should be given the…
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:32 PM
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When did I say that? I said that the physical traits of another person shouldn't be used as a determining factor in your decision to hit them or not... because I firmly believe that you should only hit in self defense or defense of someone who needs help. I never said that assaulting someone physically incapable of defending themselves is the same action as assaulting someone who can.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:26 PM
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Females are not synonymous with Feminism.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:21 PM
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Okay...
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:20 PM
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True, but that doesn't mean that adults of normal intelligence and capabilities shouldn't be held to the same standards under the law. If a female teacher forces a student to sleep with them, she's a pedophile and should be just as severely punished as a male teacher. If a woman beats her husband so bad he ends up in the hospital, she should be treated just as a male domestic abuser is. If you and I are having a verbal argument and I escalate it and slap you, I should be held accountable for my …
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:19 PM
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Then we agree.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:12 PM
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Or just don't hit anyone unless they have hit you first...
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:11 PM
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No male or female person naturally has honor or loyalty. These are traits instilled in us by our upbringing, or sometimes if a particular woman or man has a better sense of empathy and justice than their peers. They aren't inherently "male traits", it's just that fewer of us women seem to be taught them in recent generations. I was raised by my loving egalitarian grandparents for my entire childhood, but my younger siblings (1 brother, 2 sisters) were raised by our miserable tradcon parents. The…
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 12:11 PM
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Well, yeah. If they throw the first slap/punch/kick, go ahead and give them a taste of what they're dishing out. But my grandparents always taught me to never be the one to escalate. Words are just words, bringing it to the physical level is almost never okay (unless said person is trying to start a riot, I suppose).
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:57 AM
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It was just a hypothetical. Traits like height, weight, sex, skin color, disability, etc should not be determining factors in whether you hit someone or not.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:54 AM
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Can't we just finish killing off chivalry instead? That's far less important to individuals and society than basic empathy.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:52 AM
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Yes, it actually does sound fair. The crime would be that of unprovoked physical assault, and I'd want my attacker to be held accountable in a court of law no matter what sex they are. I'm an egalitarian, that's how I roll. Treat everyone the same as much as possible.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:50 AM
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Not sure why either. Thanks for acknowledging it, I appreciate your comment.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:47 AM
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Yeah, and this is what needs to change. Hence why an Egalitarian version of society, where everyone is held to the same standard and given the same punishments for crimes like assault, rape, murder, theft, etc is vastly preferable to the shit show we currently have. Like I said, people of both sexes can suck. You should be held accountable for your level of suck, not your genitals.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:46 AM
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Who doesn't want sex? I greatly enjoy sex, and have it 2-3x a week. However, I knew from the time I was 16 that I didn't want kids, and had the Essure procedure (basically a female vasectomy, and much cheaper than a tubal ligation) done when I was 24. I'm 32 now and still no regrets! Lol. Downvotes for making it impossible for me to ever get pregnant, now I've seen it all. I thought MGTOWs would be happy to hear some women actively change their reproductive systems to not spermjack men.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:40 AM
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Thank you!
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 11:38 AM
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I've known 4 in my 32 years of life. There's also a hell of a lot of men who are shorter than me by a few inches where I live, since there's a high Hispanic population. Seriously, I go to the grocery store and about 1/3 of the men I walk by only come slightly above my shoulder or to my chin.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 07:44 AM
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What about a 250lb male getting into a fight with a 100lb male? Or a 6'4" male getting into a fight with a 5'2" male? A man who is in great health fighting a man with a heart condition or asthma? Or if I, a 5'7" 140lb woman who strength trains at the gym 3x a week get into a fight with a woman who's 5'1" 100lb and has never worked out in her life? Or if I got in a fight with a 100lb, lanky, no muscle male? It's rare that humans are exactly equal in physical strength or ability, but this doesn't …
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 07:13 AM
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This is an absolutely stellar analogy.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 07:02 AM
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There are very few women haters here. In fact most of us love women and Our philosophy is basically this: Women are evil by nature are oppositional beliefs. It takes a lot of cognitive dissonance to believe both simultaneously. Interesting that I'm receiving downvotes for pointing out you shouldn't love someone if you truly believe they are evil, especially if you irrationally think that this evilness is somehow inherent to their core personality.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 07:00 AM
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Nah. Some of us women don't ever want children and have undergone surgery to prevent any pregnancies, and some men absolutely want to be fathers and would be miserable as MGTOW. Maybe not a majority but we do exist.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:58 AM
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Because those kinds of women literally cannot comprehend that men also have lives outside of just their sexual needs. These are likely women who spend the majority of their mornings "getting ready" to be seen in public, and when you don't "recognize" their cosmetic work it pisses them off.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:55 AM
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Whether the person is same sex or opposite sex, doesn't matter at all. I was raised to believe the only valid reason for raising your hands to another person is in self defense. Not because they're saying words that hurt your feelings or because they're being obnoxious or mocking you... literally only if they physically come at you or someone you care about.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:52 AM
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A man should never hit a woman, a woman should never give a reason to be hit. Likewise, a woman should never hit a man and a man shouldn't give a reason to be hit. That's true equality. Everyone, regardless of what's between your legs, keep their hands to themselves.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:48 AM
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Honest question: why would you escalate it from a verbal confrontation to a physical one, regardless of whether the person using words against you is male or female? Until a man or woman actually starts getting physical with me, I will not raise my hand towards them.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:46 AM
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If you're a total moron or actually crave the lost privilege, yes.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:41 AM
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A man should never randomly hit a woman. Likewise, a woman should never randomly hit a man. Men also shouldn't hit other men for no good reason, women shouldn't hit other women for no good reason. Just keep your fucking hands and feet to yourself unless it's in actual self-defense or to defend your friends/family from a physical attack. Simple as that.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:40 AM
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This is why Deadpool is fantastic.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:37 AM
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Lol. How stupid.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:37 AM
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Women can be incredibly disloyal, men can be incredibly disloyal. Basically, all humans who are without empathy/morals are capable of being pieces of shit.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:35 AM
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MGTOW is only terrifying to those who have something to lose from it. Anyone, male or female, who is likewise going their own way either doesn't care or is supportive of others who break out of this broken system.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:33 AM
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How revolting. Is empathy dead?
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:31 AM
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Women won't ever fully understand it, nor can they ever become part of that brotherhood. It is possible, but takes work/ability to prove oneself as different and the majority of women don't want it anyway.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:29 AM
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It's not actually a goal, per se. It's just that they stop caring what they look like because they've "caught their man". As a woman, I can tell you that we're usually raised to believe our looks are incredibly important... but only as a way to obtain a relationship. The majority of women wear makeup, tight clothes, do their hair, march around in heels, and keep to strict diets just so they can stay as conventionally attractive as possible to ONLY so they get male attention and a husband or prov…
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:27 AM
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This is why marriage is a shit deal for both sexes. Not to mention you essentially get married to the State/government, not really each other. As Tom Leykis says, what can you truly get out of marriage that you can't out of a loving LTR without the piece of paper? Answer: incredibly little, and almost nothing worth any man or woman giving up their freedom for.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:14 AM
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You really doubt anyone knows? Or did you mean you doubt that many kids/teens actually know? The second I'd believe, the first is just wrong.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 06:11 AM
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Maybe I'm reading more into this than there is, but in my experience, 99% of the time someone says "my dynamic with Person A is different than with Person B" it's pretty major differences. This really makes me wonder how you could be "friends" with a person who is treated as such. For example, I've had "friends" in the past who would go to the movies, out to lunch, or hang out after school with me no problem... but I never once got invited to their birthday parties, sleepovers, or holiday dinner…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 07:40 PM
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Interesting. My position is different, in that if I wasn't 99.999% positive my boyfriends weren't having sex with anyone except myself and between them...well. I would not be in said relationship. Are you worried more about accidental pregnancy or STDs?
/r/TheRedPill18/05/18 10:15 PM
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Yeah, if for some reason you're with a partner who is prone to cheating, you don't think you can control yourself, or have sex with random men/women condoms would be a must. I've never been in that situation (I'm sterilized, as well as one of my boyfriends, and we're poly only with each other) so it wasn't immediately what came to mind.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/18 05:02 PM
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True, that can happen with certain kinds. Is that the situation?
/r/TheRedPill18/05/18 04:59 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:22 PM
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Lol...What am I missing out on? In those particular instances, you're missing out on true friendship. You said you feel like a guy Yes, I've always been a tomboy/nonfeminine then you say you let women know you are not friends. Yes, because otherwise it would be leading them on, thinking they mean more to me than they actually do. It sounds like we are in the same boat. I'm not sure how? Those women would rather me just continue our current relationship rather than me say something so silly to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 12:23 PM
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That's the part I'm having difficulty understanding. Maybe it's because not orgasming during sex is painful/physically frustrating for me, but I don't see much point of having sex if you're not going to cum. Believe me, I love giving my boyfriends' oral sex if they're tired and really aren't in the mood for more active positions, but they still finger me so I cum too. How many times have you had sex and honestly not given a damn whether you came or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 12:15 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 12:11 PM
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I do experience that, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 09:15 AM
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Well go figure. Didn't know there was a term for it, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 09:14 AM
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Lol. I've heard this kind of sentiment before, and told my boyfriends about it. As my older partner pointed out, female babies don't have breasts, hips, other body hair, or are well over 5' tall. Similarly, it's impossible for me to see my boyfriends' shaved groins as "childlike" because baby boys don't have face stubble, broad shoulders, weigh over 200 lbs, or have chin clefts. We find it odd that people like yourself think of hairless sex organs as being inherently neotenous, instead of accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 08:01 AM
1

If only. It may be a dream though, given the snowflakes who are graduating high school and college currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 07:51 AM
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Yes, INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 07:50 AM
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It depends on the woman as an individual. I'm almost 33 and my entire life I've heard from family, coworkers, even well-meaning busybody strangers and customers that "I'll regret getting sterilized" or my life "will never be fulfilling without children", and other such unasked for opinions. The thing is, I'm the oldest of 7 siblings and I spent a very big portion of my "childhood" playing parent to them all. It sucks ass not having any freedom as a teen because you are responsible for the care o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 06:14 AM
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Precisely this. Although another big part of it for me isn't just the power, but the fact my boyfriends say I'm the best bj giver they've ever experienced. It's good to be accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 06:01 AM
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Yes, 100% prefer when my boyfriends are shaved bare. This goes for their pubes and faces alike, though I don't mind hair on the rest of their bodies. Edit: I keep myself completely bare as well, I don't understand the point of just trimming if you're already down there, and hate having it natural. Hair makes for gross oral sex, no matter whether you're a woman or man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:57 AM
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True, though I think women should do the same. Most divorces seem to be centered around the fact that the woman cannot make a concrete decision regarding wanting kids vs wanting freedom, so she tries to have both. Either decide that your goal is to be a happy mother/wife or to be happily single/unmarried LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:56 AM
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Could just get a vasectomy. Or find a woman who has gotten sterilized herself.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/18 05:52 AM
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There is only little solid research regarding whether humans possess the ability to produce and secrete "pheromones " in order to attract a suitable mate during the courtship process. From personal experience, it seems that pheromones are absolutely real. My boyfriends aren't conventionally attractive, most women would likely say they're 6/10, but their natural body odors are total aphrodisiacs to me. The reverse is true as well, if I go to see one of them after a walk/workout, they act much mor…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/18 05:49 AM
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If she never had a period, she definitely had something biologically wrong with her. Low body fat + lack of menstruation usually = amenorrhea. It's not a condition for her to take lightly. I'm horny 24/7/365 as well, but at least everything works.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/18 05:43 AM
1

That honestly makes me kinda sad for you. Not in a "that's pitiful" way, more like a "wow, you're missing out" way, not being able to have opposite sex companions and confidants. I don't know what it would be like to have someone I call a friend to their face but don't actually think of as a friend. It would be lying to them, referring to them as something they aren't. If I was one of those women, I'd 100% want to know so I could break off the "friendship" and find people who truly consider me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:33 AM
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Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:21 AM
1

...and a willingness to uproot yourself from your home, family, friends, and country to try and start again in a new one with different languages, customs, social etiquette, culture, laws, and climate, lol. I suppose if you're truly desperate to get married and procreate, and are wealthy with no major relationships in your native country it would make sense. Otherwise it sounds like you'd just be better off as a MGTOW/WGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 06:32 AM
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What if he's not a beta bux? Neither of my boyfriends have the finances to do so, one is 29 (2 years younger than me, makes $30k like I do) and the other is 46 (15 years older than me, makes about $50k). All of us value "youth" in that we don't want partners who look "old" but none of us want kids and the 46 year old and I are both surgically infertile. It's odd how a lot of RP guys assume that by the time someone is in their 40s-50s, they'll almost certainly have a great job, big nest egg, lots…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:48 AM
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I agree with the sex part, but not sure if I agree with the youth part. That sounds like it would only be a requirement (for either a man or a woman) if they wanted children. A 50 year old can't realistically expect to find many youthful 20 year old women/men to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:17 AM
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What humor?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:13 AM
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Yeah, typically that's the men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:40 PM
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The majority seem to. I greatly prefer to lead though, and my boyfriends prefer to be led. It works best if one of the partners is an Alpha and the other(s) are Beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:39 PM
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Hmmm. I guess the difference between how you feel and I feel about sexual attraction is my ability to compartmentalize it, which you seem to be missing...or it's just not as strong in you. I'm attracted to the majority (about 70%) of men I see and interact with on a daily basis; friends, co-workers, strangers, the guy who always bags my groceries, etc. Obviously I don't have the time, money, or social skills to date even a small percentage of these people, so I acknowledge my sexual attraction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:37 PM
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I don't know. I'm anti-marriage for the reasons you mentioned, it's far too misandric for my taste, even though I wouldn't take advantage of said double standards. Also, I would never want a relationship devoid of sex or the relative youth of my partners either, so of course I wouldn't expect anyone else to be fine with it. But I think it's incredibly stupid to only look for those traits, and assume it's the best you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:31 PM
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Umm. Why punch him in the face?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:28 PM
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I wasn't being sarcastic about the first part. I really do have a much easier time sexually than either of my boyfriends. It just seems really weird to not care if my partner orgasms or not so long as I'm satisfied, which is what u/Maikowski2 was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:27 PM
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Surprised to see a RP guy saying this. Aren't you supposed to be against "sluts" and her "cucks", even if everyone involved knows and is happy together?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:24 PM
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Lol. I'm not saying we discuss the latest theories regarding quantum mechanics or advancements in artificial intelligence. I just meant that it's much more stimulating than looking out a window by yourself for hours at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:22 PM
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"Mental pleasure"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:19 PM
1

What are you confused about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:46 AM
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Why should I care about my boyfriends pleasures? I can get them hard and orgasm within only 2 minutes of riding them, while they need more time/stimulation than that. After all, I did my job taking care of my own pleasure, they should go take care of their own. If they have trouble getting off quick, or at all, that's their own issue, correct? What's stopping me from constantly blue-balling them after I get the sexual satisfaction I needed? Oh...wait. That's right. They're my boyfriends and I lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:46 AM
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Very important, for both the man and the woman. The action of actually fucking only lasts about 5-8 minutes, foreplay can (and imo, should) last over an hour to maximize pleasure for both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:34 AM
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Most women have nothing to offer more than their youth and bodies. I'm straight so I've never dated women and all my friends are men because I'm a tomboy, so don't have much close experience with others of my sex. However, it sounds weird to say that most women have nothing to offer outside of their youth and "bodies" (not sure if you're actually referring to sex or attractiveness here). Are you honestly saying that the majority of women don't have any other redeeming qualities or personality tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:26 AM
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I only have two... maybe I should get working on finding more recruits for my "harem" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:15 AM
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No offense, but just because you don't doesn't mean other people don't... Random conversations with the people around you can be fun and more intellectually stimulating than just looking out the train window for an hour or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:11 AM
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Probably for the same reason I strike up conversations with random men/women while waiting in line at the post office, or in the car repair lobby area, or on the train, etc. Because it helps to pass the time quicker and it's fun to talk to random people and gain new perspectives, plus it sometimes makes people feel better to talk about their day and that's a rewarding social interaction all on it's own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:08 AM
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That's an interesting way of life. All my friends are men, and my boyfriends have always had female friends too. What would you/your SO say if one of you made friends with someone of the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:03 AM
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I think you're confusing the term "alpha" with "asshole". A man can be an alpha and an asshole simultaneously, just as a woman can be an alpha and a bitch, but they aren't necessarily interlocked. I personally am not attracted to alpha men, but it's not because they're all assholes. It's because I'm an alpha woman, and thus am attracted to the balancing qualities in my relationship counterparts, aka beta males.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:57 AM
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It's honestly thanks to RPW that I actually would look at myself in the mirror and see how much of a fucked up person I could be, and also how much I could improve. Couldn't a day or two of honest self-reflection do this just as well? I mean, my home life is fucked up too, with no good role models amongst my relatives or my parents friend circles. Growing up I had to deal with a physically abusive bipolar father, emotionally abusive and gaslighting stepfather, a cruel as fuck stepmother, and a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:43 AM
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Unless the person had an incredibly shitty Health class/was homeschooled, I seriously doubt that anyone over the age of 16 doesn't know what menopause is.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 12:51 AM
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I don't think an unwillingness to engage in sexual activities if it's just going to lead to being blue balled/blue pussied has anything to do with hypersexuality...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:44 PM
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1: Is there a shortage of (1) talented, (2) skilled, (3) dominant men when it comes to the bedroom? In my limited experience, no. I have a 100% success rate, but again that's just 2/2. Both my boyfriends have been talented and either learned skills quickly or already had them. To be fair, I don't care about dominance though, so that's not something I look for/usually want. 2: Assuming it exists, how bad is this shortage? To hear other women talk of it, it's an epidemic of biblical proportions. 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:35 AM
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even gets offended at using lube and thinks she should always be gushing wet all by herself during sex and takes it personally if she's not To be fair, if that's how she normally is during sex, she could be upset because something is physically wrong with her/she's sick. I'm 32 and have never needed to use lube for anything other than anal sex, so if I suddenly had to just for vaginal, I'd automatically think I was ill or book an appointment with a gynocologist 'cause something is obviously not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:24 AM
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Considering that TRP thinks 25+ to 30 is the beginning of "old age" for women, definitely not. Life is, in my experience, leagues better now at 32 than it ever was when I was in my late teens/early 20s. The age at which all the pieces finally started falling into place was about 26 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:16 AM
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I've heard only 10% of the population truly are attracted by the shape and the idea of the other's genitals tho. This doesn't sound correct at all. If it was, then the porn industry wouldn't do so many close-up shots of pussy/cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:08 AM
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Women wanting sex constantly for the sake of having sex, even without orgasm, is a different thing, and is strongly linked to mental health issues. Are there actually any women (or men, for that matter) who'd be willing to have sex if they weren't going to orgasm? Then what would be the point of having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:06 AM
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For me, if I have sexual tension with a woman there is no way I can interact with them as much as I do with my male friends without flirting with them, being coy, etc... Ah, see, we don't do that because of the whole LTR/marriage/being gay thing they all have going on. It's been over a decade since I had a male friend who was single and not seeing anyone (male or female) at all. The last time I did, he did try to flirt with me when he was first invited into the group, but I asked him to stop bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:16 PM
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Exactly. There is no sexual tension between straight guys who are friends. That sexual tension alone changes the dynamic. I'm not really sure it does effect anything though. I don't treat my male friends any differently than I do my female friends (when I have had to in the past, I don't currently). We may also be thinking of friends in a different context. I would say the way you are referencing it, in my mind, equates to "Close acquaintances" Definitely not. I have close acquaintances, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 09:21 PM
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Oh, okay. I see what you mean now. Yes, I'm only sexually attracted to about half of my friends, the other half not at all. Two of them are gay, so I know there's no attraction from them either. Two of them I'm actually dating, so the attraction is openly known. As for the rest, they are straight but in LTRs or are married...so even if they are attracted to me (whether I share said attraction or not) we won't be doing anything about it. I imagine I'm similar to a gay man who's attracted to his s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 07:35 PM
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Do you have male friends that you shoot the shit with like two guys would who you don't like a bit, or can guarantee they don't like you? I'm unsure why you would spend time together with people you don't like...? Isn't that the entire point of being friends, that you enjoy each other's company and can relax around one another in ways you can't do with family or co-workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 02:04 PM
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What volumes does it speak?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 12:26 PM
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Because of sexist and misandric double standards. Personally, I find overweight men attractive (one of my boyfriends is 6' and 265 lbs, and I adore his body) and try to smile more at heavy men when out in public. They should feel nice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:40 AM
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If a woman doesn't want to get married, then making it to over 30 without doing so is a win, not a loss. I'm 33 and never married... just as I planned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:36 AM
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Not really, no. I was a virgin till I was 22... it's not a big deal unless someone makes it so. I'd absolutely date a 40 year old male virgin waaaaay before I'd consider dating a guy who'd been married numerous times, had many Stars, or was a player/man-whore. At least with the virgin man I don't have to worry about what kind of STDs might be lurking in his balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:32 AM
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Why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:29 AM
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Why do you think that? All of my current friends are men, and it's been like that for the overwhelming majority of my life. Seems like it's not an "unlikely" scenario at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:28 AM
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"Tingles" sounds like a very bad reason to stay with any man or woman. If that's all one's relationship is based on, then what happens when it eventually wears off?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:32 AM
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Agree wholeheartedly. Honestly, I've been dating the same guy since I was 22 and for these past 9 years it's been great. We're very complementary in some ways...like how I'm INTJ and he's ENFP, for example... but share a love of gaming, reading, and discussing politics. If I hadn't met him, I'd probably be a 31 year old virgin because modern dating is like a foreign culture. It's good to hear you only have one relative who doesn't understand. None of mine do, and even my younger siblings think t…
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 09:46 AM
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Today, I changed my mind and my formula: A minor correction: -1 SMV for each extra 3 years and NOT -1 SMV for each extra 2 years. That will bring down the slope a bit. So, you got -2.6 for these 8 extra years after 23. But bear in mind, all SMV will eventually get to 0 in only a few years. So let's you're 1+1.6 =2.6 SMV. Be happy with that. What made you decide to change your formula? With good fitness training you can reach 4.5. I already go to the gym 3x a week, take a 2 mile walk to the groce…
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 09:33 AM
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None of what?
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 08:52 AM
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Interesting. I get why being 31 would be a potential deal breaker for non-MGTOW men, because they may be looking for a woman to marry and raise children with. In that case, if you date for even just a year and then take another year to enjoy married life without the burden of kids, now you're probably both 33 at minimum. I know if I was going to have kids, it wouldn't have been with a 33 year old man since that's too old to be a first time dad imo...so yeah, a man would probably think the same a…
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 08:51 AM
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True again. And I am also odd, so now there's 3 odd things here.
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 03:26 AM
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True. I doubt that has anything to do with u/genesisofman's odd comment however.
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 03:16 AM
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Is 31 a weird age to be or something? 😅
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 01:08 AM
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Because some men and women used to eat paint chips as children, apparently.
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 12:25 AM
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Yes...?
/r/MGTOW21/04/18 12:24 AM
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The problem is that many men do want their wives and girlfriends to wear makeup to enhance their looks and be a better piece of arm candy than when her face is naked. Believe me, I have never worn makeup and take very good care of my skin precisely because I know it's what everyone will see. For some men I've gone on first/second dates with, that wasn't enough. So NAMALT.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 09:33 PM
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Let's see... Start with 5. +1 for body/skin. +1 for cooking/cleaning. Gives me a 7. -4 for being 31 years old. -2 for having BMI of 21. I've never been married, don't have kids, am sterilized to prevent any pregnancies, am not a feminist or tradcon, don't have any social media accounts, and have never had an STD. So my "real" SMV is a 1. I consider this a "victory" since it's still a positive number, lol. 😉 Why are there no positives for things like being childfree, pleasant personality, or havi…
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 09:27 PM
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It's just easy for them to generalise, rather than have thousands of posts like "my ex (insert name here) is a bitch. That's true, and I understand/empathize with men who've been shit on by multiple women whether at work or in their relationships. Heck, I have a friend who has said to me that literally the only women he trusts are his mother and myself... other than that, he tries to avoid female company. One thing I also disagree with is the assertion that all (meaning literally 100%) of us are…
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 09:10 PM
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I guess the misogyny can be excused, they're just directing it at all women rather than the ones who actually hurt them. But the guys here are mainly ones who are going through raw patches. And young guys like me who learn from other people's mistakes. Yeah, that's the part I have trouble understanding. I've been hurt both mentally and physically by not only my father and stepfather, but also numerous jocks and assholes in high school. They are definitely worthy of any misandry coming at them be…
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 07:15 PM
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I know you'll pull through. You sound very resourceful. Eh, surprisingly I like it better here than on r/purplepilldebate. Sure there's a little misogyny once in a while but it appears most MGTOW here believe EWALT instead of AWALT. One of you even made a post talking about the number of NAWALTs that exist, and he figured it's roughly every 1/5000 of us. It's just that we're either taken already or going our own way too and aren't out in the dating pool. So unfortunately you're left with all the…
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 01:08 PM
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Damn. Hope something goes in your favor financially so you can get away from that place, man.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:32 PM
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Not much of a difference, then.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:31 PM
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That's where men should remind their spouses/girlfriends that they are strong, empowered women, fully capable of driving themselves places. Throw in a comment about the countries where women can't get driver's licenses or go anywhere without a male relative for good measure, to help the precious snowflake recall that she lives in the West and can take care of herself.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:17 PM
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Wow...just...wow. That's pure evil.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:12 PM
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I don't think even an ultra BP guy would be able to excuse this kind of behavior. But then again, they do say surprisingly moronic things...
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:10 PM
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Don't shit where you eat, don't fuck where you work. This is good advice for every person.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:09 PM
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If this is truly what the typical woman needs from a man to consider them LTR material, she's an unempathetic, entitled bitch.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:06 PM
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Yeah, I find it impossible to fall asleep before 11pm unless I hit the gym on my way home from work. Typically I sleep from midnight until 5am, can't get anything more than that. Sorry about your neighbors...can you ask the apartment manager to have them keep the noises down?
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 12:04 PM
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I didn't go to my high school prom (decades ago), and I've never felt that I missed out on anything. Me neither, but then again I hung out with my friends instead as I said above. When you're in the nerds/outliers group like us, prom is just a way for the jocks and cheerleaders to show off more and possibly prank you. No thanks. Someone would have had to PAY ME at least $2000 to get me to go to my prom back then. I had a rough time in high school, and was frustrated and miserable much of the tim…
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 11:22 AM
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To hell with prom. It's a case of wanting to impress people for one night...and you'll most likely not recognize or even see those people again 10 years down the road. Amen.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 10:22 AM
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True, but most colleges and even some high schools have tutoring centers specifically for this type of thing. I worked in one during my college days, tutoring other students in Spanish, English, and Biology when I had gaps between classes. Got paid $7 an hour too, which helped with the fact I was putting myself through college and didn't want to eat Ramen all the time lol. It was actually frowned upon to interrupt other students in the library and computer lab as the picture above shows.
/r/MGTOW20/04/18 10:16 AM
1

What trouble with sleeping do you have? I have insomnia and sleep paralysis, and have dealt with it ever since I was 16 (I'm 32 now). ASMR videos help a hell of a lot.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 08:23 PM
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I'll definitely look into it. I'm always interested in cases that show we need more support for men's rights groups.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 03:57 PM
1

Yeah, exactly.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 03:56 PM
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Nah. If someone is over 18 and has a IQ greater than 90, they're an adult. No reason to treat them otherwise and let them get away with shit.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 03:56 PM
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Lol
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 03:54 PM
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You're lucky dude. Some women and men turn it into a weird power struggle.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 01:59 PM
1

Shit. I'm sorry. That's fucking terrible. Are there any higher ups you can write to? Or family friends looking for a good worker? When I was unemployed a few months ago, that's how I survived... doing odd jobs, lawn work, and dogsitting for my friends and neighbors.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 01:01 PM
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Y'know, I'm not sure. Maybe it's just an instinct? If there's a big group coming in/going out, it certainly makes more sense to bypass that and just use another one.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 12:02 PM
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Totally. Make a memory you would want to have, not what everyone else thinks you should.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:59 AM
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Ah, okay. Thought maybe you read my username. I'm not trying to troll or be sneaky like I've seen some female commenters be here. No worries, dude. What country do you live in? I'm in the US and we have a decent Hispanic population in my area but the majority have either factory, farming, or warehouse jobs just like the whites and blacks here. It's rather rural, lol. Wouldn't necessarily call you lazy. Probably more like you're trying to stand up for your principles. Unfortunately principles don…
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:58 AM
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It's a memorable night if you make it such. That depends on whether or not you think you'll actually enjoy it. I never went to my senior prom because I absolutely hate getting dressed up, getting hair done, etc. So the guys and I ordered pizza, played racing games on the n64, and watched anime all night instead. Nobody had to wear a tux or dress, we didn't spend money on a limo, and actually had fun instead of putting up with the pranks the jocks usually played on us. 10/10 would do your own thi…
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:53 AM
1

This is frickin beautiful, man. Well said.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:46 AM
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True. If you're an atheist like me it doesn't work out quite so well...Then people seem to believe you should just get hitched for the hell of it because it "doesn't mean anything to you so why are you dawdling". Idiots.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:37 AM
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Nice. Surprised to hear you actually have it easier being unmarried in your country. My friends are pretty accepting and only lightly tease but my family and even complete strangers can be very damning of my decision to never marry or have kids. Hell, when I got sterilized so I'd never have to worry about accidental pregnancy, my mother actually cried and my stepfather said I was "incredibly selfish". It's really good to know that you don't have to go through the same thing and have family that …
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:34 AM
2

Lol. Indeed. It's why I vote Libertarian...get the government out of our lives except for where it exists to protect our freedoms. It's not supposed to be in our bedrooms or relationships.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:24 AM
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Lol, I forgot what a different time zone we're in. Enjoy your dinner. Damn, that looks great. Can't wait to see it, this year is going to be fantastic for movies! Thanks for the link. I'm going to share it with my friends.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:14 AM
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I live in the US, so am not familiar with Malaysian culture. How are unmarried men viewed? Is it an acceptable way of life to remain a bachelor, or do you experience shaming for not doing so? Unmarried men and women do get shamed here, but it is probably nothing like what you might encounter there.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:08 AM
1

Eh, agree to disagree then.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:05 AM
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Nah, go right ahead man. I'm getting ready for work right now, but will answer you during my lunch break if we can't talk this morning.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:04 AM
1

Well thank you very much, good sir. I thought you were being sarcastic because I'm a woman, but am glad to see it was a sincere response. If I may, what could improve in your life? Is there anything specifically you have need of? It's not likely, but if I can help you it's worth trying.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 11:03 AM
2

Holy shit. I didn't know there was a separate definition specifically for "transactional sex". I was literally just talking about the basic act of sex being transactional because you're essentially trading satisfaction for satisfaction. Damn... what a circus this has become.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:59 AM
2

Fair enough. It all comes back to the acceptance of the Duluth Model in law enforcement. Sure, Feminists have claimed it's supposed to be gender neutral, but when the very language of it specifically refers to the male as the aggressor...well. Obviously those of us who are literate know better.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:56 AM
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Lol
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:54 AM
2

When you get wed in the West, you're not even marrying each other. You're marrying the state/government. Just as Tom Leykis says, if you love each other and want to be together... just fucking be together. No marriage contract necessary. Hell, unless you have kids, cohabitation isn't even a necessity.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:53 AM
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Not AWALT, but close enough that it is dangerous, or at the minimum incredibly frustrating, for a man to find someone who is simultaneously A) in his area B) single C) attractive D) actually looking to date. The odds are not in the single modern man's favor. You have to determine for yourself if it's worth it to look...or just stick to what you already know and enjoy.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:47 AM
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And yet there exist people in this world who would still say males can't be raped by females. Bullshit.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:41 AM
4

They documented the entire journey through social media. I've run out of facepalms...
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:40 AM
1

HATRED OF MALE PREFERENCES INTENSIFIES.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:34 AM
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Isn't this why teachers/professors have open door hours? So that students can receive their help instead of upsetting the studies of other students?
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:33 AM
0

I don't disagree with you, but what does that have to do with the article here? Or were you just giving another example?
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:31 AM
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This case is absolute bullshit. The man and his wife both testified that the medical condition seen in their infant was already present due to external pressure during pregnancy. The man admitted to losing his hold on his daughter and grabbing her head/face to prevent her from hitting her head against the table (thereby preventing a more serious injury), and the prosecutor didn't have any direct evidence that this was actual abuse. Apparently he just thought it was a "strong match"and that was e…
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:30 AM
1

Yeah, sounds about right.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:21 AM
1

Life is about pleasure and pain, it creates a balance of human experience. Peace comes through enjoying the pleasures we have in the moment and making fond memories of them, and accepting the pain we encounter as a obstacle to work through that will make us more resilient. Both are needed to have a life worth living.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:19 AM
2

What kind? I work at a sex toy company, can tell you some of the bestsellers if you want.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:16 AM
6

Strangely enough, this goes both ways. I've had many (but not all) men use the other door instead of the one I'm holding for them. Or if they're leaving and I'm coming in, I'll hold the outside handle and step to the side so they can keep walking but they'll just stand there in the vestibule telling me to come in because "ladies first". Meanwhile there's other people trying to leave behind them so it's just getting backed up. Can we all just agree that it's no longer the 1920s and both sexes are…
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:13 AM
1

Right? If you see someone...a man, a woman, a kid... coming in the building behind you or out of the door you just went through, it takes seconds to hold it open a little longer. Just common courtesy.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:07 AM
2

Pretty much this. If we're driving past a place that doesn't serve you grease on a plate, just park there. Most menus have at least 20 items, even a vegetarian like me can find something in the appetizers or side dishes.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:03 AM
3

Why would you want to be in charge of another adult's life?
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 10:00 AM
1

All sex is transactional. You're trading pleasure for pleasure, even if no money, gifts, or food was had. The issue is that most women see sex as a commodity that requires a different form of payment other than more sex.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:59 AM
3

If you're dating a woman who's not paying her share...why are you dating her?
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:54 AM
2

True. That kind of woman is a red flag unto herself.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:51 AM
3

Hey there. It's all good, man. Can't complain about anything, love my job and relationship is smooth sailing. Got tired of Purple Pill Debate and it's Feminists/Blue Pillers talking about how much I don't understand shit, figured I'd hang out here for a while. How's life treating you?
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:50 AM
3

Lol. I had someone tell me "If it's not updated on Facebook, it's not a real relationship". Bwahahaha!
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:47 AM
2

It is entirely possible that the electronic scale I'm using is incorrect. I do know I'm 5'8" and 145 definitely, because that's what I was during my annual checkup 2 months ago. When I look in the mirror, I do look very similar to the woman in the red/pink bikini as well, so it seems the scale is correct though. Why would you say it is inaccurate? I'm always trying to learn more about ways to stay fit, so if you have more info on measuring body fat I'm all ears!
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:45 AM
1

Too true, sir.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:32 AM
9

Anyone who uses the term virgin as an insult is incredibly small minded. Good for you, sticking with your principles.
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 09:32 AM
1

Makeup is for women who don't like their own face...or who have partied/tanned so long that they're 30 and look 50 without it.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 09:08 PM
7

Exactly! What the fuck is wrong with this woman? It's safe to say that the only reason she's still alive and/or not in the same condition is because of him. The bare minimum she can do is make his life as easy as possible.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 09:06 PM
10

Holy shit, what a bitch.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 09:04 PM
17

166 lbs, and the average woman in the US is 5'5". That's no longer "curvy" or "thick", that's fat. No getting around it. Hell, I'm 5'8" and weigh 145 currently, and that's only because I have 25% body fat. Not saying that we need to be assholes and fat shame people but this subculture of actively accepting obesity and overweight bodies is just not healthy.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 09:03 PM
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Who even cares about Facebook and putting your relationship status up for everyone to gawk at? So fucking glad I got rid of that app 2 years ago.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 08:58 PM
1

Was your response to me sarcastic? Edit: It's cool if it wasn't. Just seems like it was either sarcastic or tongue in cheek.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 08:55 PM
1

I agree with you that the first couple dates shouldn't be a meal, or at least not "dinner and a movie". That's a good way for men to get financially hosed, and a shit way to find out if you actually enjoy each other's company. Just saying that back when I still dated I always made sure to go dutch because it's important to show you intend to be an equal in the relationship from the start. Can't do that if you let him pay, and it's unfair to stick the guy in the provider role when I have my own p…
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 11:24 AM
1

A committed MGTOW might consort with a NAWALT for friendship or sex or companionship, but a NAWALT who wanted marriage wouldn't be a NAWALT Precisely. So many MGTOW talk about finding a NAWALT who then unravels and starts nagging him to put a ring on it, throwing idiotic shit tests at him, decreasing or stopping sex even though she still claims to "love" him, etc. It's blatantly obvious that these men have not actually found a NAWALT, just a bitch masquerading as one who finally showed her true …
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:56 AM
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I realize this comment is on the older side, but wanted to point out that there do exist women who are happily childfree and do not have a reproductive goal. In such cases, marriage is totally unnecessary and there is absolutely no time of vulnerability to worry about. Because of this, it makes it easier for such a woman to date MGTOW, since she won't try to get pregnant or rope him into a "marriage of necessity".
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:52 AM
2

Holy shit, this is fantastic. Could have been completely avoided if the agreement upfront was that they'd each pay their own bill though. Seriously, there's too many fucking con artist women who literally use "dates" with men to get free food. Always, always, always go dutch from the first date and forward.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:41 AM
4

I've always just assumed there will be people luckier than me, richer than me, in a better life situation than me, healthier than me etc. I don't stew on how unfair it is, life is fairly unfair. Pretty much. I'm worse off than some people, but also better off than others. Hell, I'm a middle-class American with a nice apartment and steady job...that automatically means I'm doing better than a huge portion of the world's population. That the majority of women are as you describe probably comes fro…
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:33 AM
2

This is the truest statement on the internet.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:26 AM
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It's not a movement, but it's still good to see more men deciding to live life on their own terms. Getting the word out is definitely something to celebrate. Of course, not all the subscribers are MGTOW. Some are women like me, some are trolls, some are alts of men who are already subscribed under their other names, etc. Some are probably Femidiots who use the comments for their misandric fodder. It's not like this number is truly indicative of just MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:24 AM
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After turning down a few very obvious hints that she's now interested, it seems the friendship has just completely imploded. She puts no effort in, and wants nothing to do with my advances to keep in touch. I'm somewhat surprised, as we were very good friends and short of not acting upon her 'hints' there is nothing that could have upset her. This exactly what the Red Pill tells men to do if they are friendzoned. Cut off ties, don't keep spending time with the object of your affections, keep you…
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:13 AM
2

I have to choose my self preservation over everything else now. This is where people get stuck. This is the part they can't comprehend. Because society teaches it's members to not upset the status quo, to just follow the script, be a good little worker bee who pays their taxes and creates offspring to keep the system going. Anyone who deviates, be they man or woman, is automatically viewed with mild suspicion at best or told they are immoral and selfish at worst.
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:02 AM
1

It doesn't have to do with being insulated from modern culture or evolution, it has to do with one's ability to emphasize. Empathy is putting oneself in another's shoes, essentially living through the Golden Rule of "treat others as you'd like to be treated". If you live with this always in the forefront of your mind you will just naturally be a kind-hearted, helpful, caring person. A "unicorn" by today's sad standards. Which is the problem, honestly. Modern society suffers from a lack of empath…
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 09:52 AM
3

Yeah. Like just because my great, great grandmother couldn't vote but her husband could that means somehow I'm oppressed? Pffft. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:04 PM
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Not to a woman who hates facial hair lol. It would detract from his status in her eyes because he'd be unattractive. But to a woman who actually likes face fuzz? Yeah, I could see that being an indicator of status since it's what she goes for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 11:23 AM
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Lol. Teasing isn't a display of dominance. I tease my boyfriends and co-workers all the time about stupid shit, and they tease me back. It's just being playful and friendly, busting each other's chops, building comraderie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 11:21 AM
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At least we aren't giving out false signals though. Can you imagine how bad the relationship would be if a woman who's truly a tomboy at heart dressed like she was feminine and attracted a man who was expecting that... only to be unpleasantly surprised when she doesn't act how he expected whatsoever? No, it's better for tomboys to be comfortable with ourselves and our looks/clothing choices. That way we find men who are attracted to our real selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:47 AM
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The reason I didn’t use the word tomboy is that it’s harder to imagine a tomboy adult woman. There's not many, but you can still find those of us who don't let social expectations get to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:41 AM
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Definitely wouldn't consider a woman butch just because she does CrossFit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:39 AM
1

I didn't really disagree with anything else you said, so I guess we'll have to concentrate on our current conversation instead lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:19 AM
1

There are, but what does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:19 AM
2

Wow, thank you! I'm happily surprised you think I'm interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:18 AM
1

Yes! Tomboy and dandy clothing for the fucking win.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:15 AM
2

If tomboys can be considered butch women (as it seems according to your definition of short hair, masculine mannerisms, and dressing in neutral/masculine clothing) then I love being this way. I'm heterosexual too, which surprises some people. My relationship with my boyfriends has been amazing. I do like being the most "masculine" person in the relationship. It was a struggle for many years though, since every other man I dated wanted to change me or couldn't accept that I wasn't ever going to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:13 AM
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I am surprised you think this way since monogamy is a societal construct. I agree it is a social construct. Falling in lust trumps years of hard work and dedication? I disagree. But I don't think that falling in lust trumps the years of hard work one puts into a relationship. Not sure why you think I do? Coming from a guys perspective, being the creature that we are, and having girls approach you constantly with the ability to choose from a large pool of high level women, I give him credit for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 10:05 AM
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Lol. It's not something I "tell myself", it's just that I'm not attracted to muscular or chiseled men, and there are other women like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 09:48 AM
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For some women that may be the reason. My reasoning is that I am creeped out by muscles/defined abs and prefer men who look warm, huggable, and comforting instead of hard, chiseled, and weirdly shaped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:57 AM
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Untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:55 AM
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If he took it beyond the roles they were playing as part of their job, and cheated even though he was getting consistent sex and intimacy at home? Yes, that would definitely be low quality. It showcases someone who cannot control themselves or their body. If he wasn't receiving any intimacy or sex at home, then that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:53 AM
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I take it you're not using the word "any" to literally mean "all"? Because it's incorrect to say that every woman prefers chiseled men over chubby men, even if it's true for the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 11:13 PM
1

Hmm. No, doesn't look like I did any further responses. But I'm up for it. Which part did you want to keep discussing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 11:11 PM
1

Maybe? Why, did he cheat on his wife? I don't really care about celebrity stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 11:06 PM
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Agree 100%. It's essentially wanting to always be the recipient, never the giver, and having bullshit reasons as to why that's actually "fair" somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:13 PM
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If he's cheating just to stroke his ego, prove to himself he's still desirable, or because he doesn't give a shit about his wife or their marriage, then he's incredibly low value. However, if he's doing it out of desperation for sex that's still being denied by the wife after he's spoken about it and tried to fix things, I don't think that affects his value. He could still be an amazing man but stuck in a horrible situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:09 PM
1

What is the last comment you have a response from me about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:04 PM
1

I have done research, I've spoken to escorts and prostitutes who work at places like the Bunny Ranch. Never said it was, regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:03 PM
1

Well, my boyfriends are great examples but I don't have pics of them to show you. But there's actors like Jack Black, or Chris Pratt when he was still on Parks and Recreation. Btw, how can a theory get simpler than "both men and women are attracted to people they think are hot"? I just got down to the truth in less than 13 words.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 11:32 AM
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How exactly is liking slightly overweight men an example of not knowing what someone wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:20 AM
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I want men who look attractive to me and aren't assholes. A chubby nerd who likes the same hobbies and interests, who is egalitarian and will neither pedestalize me or think of me as inferior. It's literally that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:19 AM
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A woman must be more decisive in picking partners, as when she is impregnated she goes through the whole 9 months. .. Therefore if the woman will be going through the difficult 9 months it would make sense in finding a high value man which will be able to protect and provide for the offspring and her. True, this made sense in previous generations exactly for the reasons you mention. However, we are no longer constrained by biology, we have outpatient sterilization procedures for both sexes and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:15 AM
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I agree with your assessment regarding falling for mind games, but would still classify such men as bad boys. Just because they don't necessarily look the part doesn't mean they don't fit the role incredibly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:00 AM
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Walking around the edge of the woods and through my neighborhood at night is one of my guilty pleasures!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:56 AM
1

Yes, but not disregard it completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:55 AM
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Ah, you're in a city. I'd wear headphones if I was too... it's way too distracting and loud otherwise. I hate being in NYC at night, there's just...too much of every sound and light and smells. It's overwhelming. But I don't think I'd ever want to wear headphones where I live. When I walk to the grocery store it's very relaxing to hear the birds, leaves, insects, and a car once in a while. After a rainstorm, I can even hear the creek down the hill which is also nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 12:59 PM
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I'm only stronger than one of my boyfriends, but yeah I get what you mean. I also just fit better in those roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 11:49 AM
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As soon as I saw the name Michael Kimmel, I knew it would be misandric.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 11:48 AM
1

Do you usually wear headphones? I'd be afraid of missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 11:45 AM
1

Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 11:10 AM
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I'd agree with that. It is a good way to be, for both sexes. If you live by your own rules, it means you're relatively immune to things like peer pressure, gender roles, social expectations, etc. Going your own way, in other words. Not taking shit from anyone is likewise good for men and women, it means you're not a pushover or doormat, so it's an admirable quality to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 04:09 AM
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Does it? I don't think someone is approachable because they are smiling, I just assume that person is happy for whatever reason going through their mind at the moment. Approachability would be indicated by eye contact and an increased smile/grin...or at least that's what my brain says. It could certainly be wrong again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 02:13 AM
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You don't have to, just like I don't have to smile to combat my resting bitch face if I don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:25 AM
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Eh, I haven't seen this in my area. It honestly looks like men age slightly worse than the women I typically see. Both groups of older people (talking about those who look over 50 here) tend to be overweight, thinning hair, wrinkled, and have some blotchiness to their skin. However, the men's faces have significantly deeper lines and wrinkles, and their skin looks more leathery. It's likely because this is a rural area. Yeah, there are men and women who are definitely aging well and obviously ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:11 AM
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For people that agree that men and women should be treated the same, are there any aspects you feel uncomfortable with this treatment being extended to? In a male-female relationship, these would be things like the man's protection of his partner, pursuit and initiation in dating, providing money and resources for the family, (for most countries, this would have the women making more than the man), etc. Nope, not uncomfortable at all. Equalize all that shit. It seems as though Masculinity has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:06 AM
1

I wonder why that is. Obviously this is anecdotal, but I'm an American and I think it's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 12:55 AM
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Lol 🐐
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 12:54 AM
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Geez. That is just...super unfortunate all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 11:22 PM
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Lol. I am stealing "scowl owl" for future use.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 11:21 PM
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Oh, definitely. He's the only one who actually looks like he's having a good day. All the others look terribly forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 11:20 PM
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I agree. The males in those pictures don't actually look happy, the smiles aren't reaching their eyes. It's making them look psychopathic, not friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:52 PM
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It's off-putting in men too. You pass by a dude with RBF and think "holy shit, he's having a really bad day" when he's probably just thinking about grabbing milk on the way home lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:49 PM
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Nah, they do it when other men are in earshot. Or at least it's always been when other people are around when it happens to me. I don't actually get upset by it though, because it's a good reminder. I have resting bitch face and will look slightly pissed if I don't actively remember to smile, which of course I don't want people to think I'm upset when I'm not. As a social experiment, I've actually spent the day at a park telling men I walked by to smile while smiling at them. A small percentage …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:44 PM
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That's intriguing. Were their fathers also bad boys and they're looking for another one because it's the type of man they are used to? Or did they not have one at all growing up and don't know what a good man is supposed to be like? See, I have a biological father I stopped seeing when I was 14, and a stepfather I stopped visiting when I was 18, and I never loved either of them or felt totally safe around them. Walking on eggshells would be a good way to put it. But I had mostly male friends, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:34 PM
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Women are attracted to guys with tattoos as it shows risk taking behaviour, pain tolerance, a willingness to say "fuck you" to society and a whole lot of other things that women find attractive in men because they're Alpha characteristics. Why are some men attracted to women with tattoos? Honestly, I don't like tattoos, so can't comment about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 07:28 PM
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Yeah. She said he was everything her parents disapproved of. He was 23, thought he was god's gift to the world and had just enough charisma to convince other people of it too. Didn't help that mom was naive, rebellious, and fresh out of high school when they met. My mom isn't a bad woman, she's just the type who wants a "leader" in her life, a man with a plan. She had me only a few months before she turned 19, which wasn't part of his plan however. Thank goodness she divorced him and her parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 07:18 PM
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Women, have you noticed this, or have ever made the same assumption? The only times I ever was treated like I was automatically dishonest was growing up. My stepfather really did think that all (yes, 100%) females were more prone to lying, manipulation of truth, "misremembering" the truth on purpose, etc as an inherent flaw. He used verses in the Bible to "prove" it but I don't recall which ones. Other than this particular jackass, it doesn't seem to be something I've encountered. Is this going …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:40 PM
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A lot of people are much nicer, kinder, generous, etc than societal expectations and biases would have you believe. I'm a tomboy gamer/nerd who wears nothing but jeans, geek t-shirts, and science hoodies but most of my friends in high school and college were punks, goths, and metalheads. Despite looking "dangerous" or "troublesome" our group was known to be some of the nicest kids in the entire school. But... I never got the impression that TRP is talking about a certain look or clothing choice …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:26 PM
1

Somewhat. If possible, I'd still prefer to set humane traps for them at problem areas of my house instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:05 PM
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It's only a man's world in that instance if he dates or marries a golddigger or a woman who sees relationships like some kind of legal whoredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:04 PM
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Ironically, I'm not conservative either...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:22 PM
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I always feel like I'm an unpaid therapist when I talk with women. Why are you telling me all of these problems that you have no interest in fixing? :/ I know! I've actually lost female friends because I've tried to fix the problems they kept venting to me about endlessly. The one that hurt most was my supposedly "best" female friend in 10th grade, Christine. We'd been friends for 2 years and as she was telling me about a fight she had with her "idiot boyfriend" for the 3rd time that particular …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:43 AM
1

Do you mean somatotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:31 AM
1

Do you mean somatotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:31 AM
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Q4All: Will we see a rise in goodlooking poor men looking to trade up in the world, if more women become independently rich and powerful? Will this arrangement be attractive to men? Will it be attractive to women? This kind of mate selection has been and will always be attractive to some men and women, yes. Perhaps we will see a rise in it... certainly be interesting to see in the future. Q4W: If you were to be rich and successful, would you consider marrying a very attractive (whatever that mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:25 AM
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Can't change your view because I agree with it. Women who want mates who look like the guy in the above picture are wanting men who cannot naturally have those bodies. It's just not what the human form is meant to look like. Also can't change your view because I don't have a horse in this particular race. I find the guys above to be very unattractive body-wise, but most especially the one on the left. Everything below his neck makes me squeamish, it's just so wrong, like he's an alien creature o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 10:05 AM
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I’ve noticed in a lot of comment and replies recently that ‘women don’t like nice men’. Which, depending on your definition of nice, I very much disagree with. There are plenty of women who like... and love...nice men. Which makes me wonder, how do people know genuinely how nice somebody is? You can't usually tell right away, but after more than 10 minutes of talking to someone you can usually get an idea based on their actions and/or opinions. Like, not explicitly expressing your sexual desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 02:08 AM
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I don't believe in such a thing as "sisterhood". Where did you get the idea that I did? There's no rationality behind siding with someone based purely on your shared gender. But I also didn't call anyone a bitch because it's not up to me to define any other person's sexuality. Both men and women can be sluts if they want and are able to procure that many sexual partners. Hookups and ONS are just not things I've ever wanted to be a part of because I believe sex is not something to be taken or don…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:47 AM
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Well, it's silly to think every single woman has the same tastes in men's bodies, personalities, sexualities, etc. If you base all your experiences with women on those who like clubbing or partying, you won't meet those of us who hate clubbing and partying... because we're not there, obviously. 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:38 PM
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It's almost like relationships work best when each person plays to their individual strengths. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:17 PM
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Purple, as my flair says. I have no fucking idea, and it is both disgusting and disturbing on a visceral level. It's one thing to see a random guy on TV and think he's hot without knowing anything else about him. But it's almost guaranteed that these girls know what kind of bottom-feeding scum he is, and it's the only reason they are even aware of his existence. I don't understand it, nor do I want to delve any closer to that part of these girls' psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 08:56 PM
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OP, you may be confusing women who have casual sex with women who do not have casual sex. From what I can tell, women who enjoy having ONS or fuck buddies actually differentiate between men they would only fuck vs men they would be in a relationship with. Those of us who don't have casual sex do not make this distinction, so the men we want to fuck are the same ones we want to actually love and be loved by.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 05:51 PM
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I'm beginning to wonder if there really is a "normal" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:38 PM
2

I think that is very fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 02:02 PM
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Yeah, exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:55 PM
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Lol. No, they're definitely not. I had a sterilization procedure done a few years ago in my late 20s. I've known since I was a teenager that I didn't ever want to have kids. One of my men is vasectomized too, so his sperm isn't worth anything. I guess Q's the only one of the three of us who should be protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:54 PM
1

Ah, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:51 PM
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I always tell him how handsome/cute/attractive he is. (But idk if that would be considered "masculine" I think it's just something one should do for their partner) This is so very true. Good on you for making your man feel loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:09 PM
1

Yes, a fellow spider saver!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:57 PM
1

Do you let him drive yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:56 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:55 PM
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Yes. I was dating S for a handful of years before he asked if we could open our relationship to include another man. I agreed so long as the newcomer was also bisexual and attracted to both of us so I could have more sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:46 PM
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Actually, it's more like Q is shared by S and myself, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:45 PM
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As far as I am aware, none of us are dating or fucking anyone else. Each of us understands that if someone wanted to see another man or woman, it would be discussed first. Not to gain permission, but to just make the other two people aware of the change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:44 PM
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Probably. I mean, S and myself were dating first, then we invited Q into our relationship. Since they are planning to move in together I don't see why they'd break up just because I'm dead. I actually hope that would bring them closer together through mutual comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:42 PM
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I don't think any man or woman has an obligation to protect anyone other than their offspring. I was thinking it's more just instinctual to automatically protect someone you see being hurt or in danger. Like it's not even something you consciously decide, your body just reacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:39 PM
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But they would still have each other. Also that's a...weird way of thinking about it. I'd rather give my life to potentially save the two men I love than to lose either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:37 PM
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Why do you resist yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 12:19 PM
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Yes, I do. But I don't understand the other question. If something happened to me, like I got in a car accident? Sorry, I don't know what that has to do with dating multiple men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:59 AM
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Yup, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:57 AM
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That's because sex work unfortunately is shady in the US...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:41 AM
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Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:40 AM
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Those are all pretty good examples, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:39 AM
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Huh. You don't experience any automatic drive to protect other people? Or you do but you deliberately don't follow through with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:38 AM
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I don't think it's come up in any of our conversations, no. I've been diagnosed with PDD, which is on the autism spectrum. Thankfully mild in my case, but still causes issues with verbal communication and dealing with loud/bright/busy sensory processing. But there's women out there, and in PPD, who aren't autistic and may still have more masculine tendencies, either because that's just how they are or how they've trained themselves to be. It's entirely possible to acknowledge you're an outlier w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:36 AM
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And anvils!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:29 AM
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I'm on the spectrum too, but mine is actually diagnosed. It seems like there's a chunk of us on this sub. Was your mom also a feminist? Both my mom and stepfather were tradcons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:29 AM
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That's intriguing. So which side is the real you? Like, are you naturally more masculine and act feminine at home because it's better for your relationship or are you naturally feminine and act masculine at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:27 AM
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Cool, I hope it continues to work out for both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:24 AM
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Do you not typically cohabitate, or is it that one of you travels a lot? I don't live with my boyfriends either, just stay the night now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:08 AM
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I wish there were more women like you! Are you naturally that blunt and direct, or was it something your parents tried to instill?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:06 AM
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I don't think I'd be able to kill it... I'd just put it back outside lol. I've had too many pet rats to disconnect enough to kill one unless it was being violent. But it's good that you protect your home.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:04 AM
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Lol, that's an awesome way of putting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:01 AM
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Man, I wish I could sleep like that! 😅 It's only happened 3 times, at no point was it a human intruder though. Once was a raccoon which I lured back outside with grapes and crackers, the other two times it was just weird noises. Still, better safe than sorry. I live alone too, so am used to checking like you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 11:00 AM
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Interesting. I protect anyone I see who needs it, even if it means putting myself in the path of physical violence, rare as that is. Since you mentioned clarification of a situation here's one from a few years ago that immediately comes to mind. A woman was walking behind me in a mall hallway yelling at her boyfriend (maybe husband?) but then began to repeatedly hit him around the face. He verbally protested but didn't hit back just blocked her blows. I turned around and asked him if he wanted m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:45 AM
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Precisely one of the reasons I enjoy reading Wilde. Also, from another great writer, Robert Frost; "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:28 AM
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Is this based on your experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:58 AM
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Would you protect other men and children?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:57 AM
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Hear, hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:57 AM
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Is polygyny inherently wrong in your view, or just the way it's practiced in certain cultures? What about polyandrous relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:55 AM
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Q4ALL: Would Atlas agree that you should never lie and you should never fabricate anything? Idk. You should ask her. Q4ALL: Once you abandon "Be Yourself", how exactly do you shape/sculpt/FORGE yourself into the Ultimate Man? First I'd need to get a penis and attach it somehow... Is this post supposed to be a Q4M? If not, and women can answer too then the path is pretty much laid out imo already. I don't change anything about my personality, but I will do things that improve upon it. For example…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:49 AM
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Purple, so commenting under Automod. Surprisingly, I agree with the content of this post. Most women do use a lot more covert forms of communication, like tone of voice, body language, emotional significance, etc. It gets very confusing because sometimes there's a bit of doublespeak going on too. It's easier to communicate with men in general, because talking with women can be like knowing the language but not the dialect. Like a lot of autistics, I have trouble with this and am better at direct…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:33 AM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:19 AM
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I wouldn't say it like that, but I'd say "That dress doesn't do you any favors" or "That dress is not made for your figure".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:19 AM
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No, they should embrace egalitarianism. Or better yet, find a woman who either isn't hypergamous or has little of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 02:01 AM
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I'm really not sure how to define masculine or feminine anymore without resorting to stereotypical behaviors or appearances. I know that I am not what people typically consider to be feminine, and my boyfriends aren't what most people would consider masculine (or at least not "Alpha" or "manly"). Given this, I guess it would be most accurate to say I prefer men who are slightly feminine by traditional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:59 AM
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I totally agree with the fact that rape is more prevalent in certain areas and/or subcultures, just not the idea that it affects the entire nation, and not to the extent Feminists say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:55 AM
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How would one access it like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:10 AM
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Indeed they do. Very lucky for me. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:09 AM
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The good thing about facts is that you don't have to believe in them for them to exist. True, but I need evidence to believe in it. When you're a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. I don't know what you're trying to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:19 PM
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I'm an egalitarian, not a feminist. I don't believe in the patriarchy, rape culture, female-only oppression, the wage gap, or that life in the West is significantly harder for women than for men. In fact, I lean more towards men's rights because I see more males needing equality than females.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 04:15 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:53 PM
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Male, definitely. Maximum of 6' tall, no more (I'm 5'8"). I prefer the chubby, dadbod look. Don't want him to be muscular or too lean. No facial hair, piercings, tattoos (unless they really mean something personal). Clothing choices and hair style don't matter. Personality I like men who are accepting of their sexuality. I have a high libido and am very into trying new things so a willingness to experiment is a must. Bisexual a huge plus. Above average intelligence like myself, and interested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:43 PM
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Cool, thanks for answering. It's interesting to see how different people are in regards to attracting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:33 PM
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They're all white, anywhere from 5'6" to 6'5", are slightly overweight, wear glasses, typically have short beards, most have dark hair and eyes, and are teachers/IT/admin workers so they normally dress in corporate casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:32 PM
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Ah. That does explain it a bit more. Most of my friends and myself are introverted, but we'll be introverted together in our little group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:54 PM
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So...me. 😅 Surely there must be other qualities. That seems too easy to find, frankly. Maybe not so much the hair/makeup but could probably find a gal who only does the minimal...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:53 PM
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I suppose? Honestly I've never spoken to anyone about what their ideal mate would be like. I've seen what people are seeking on dating profiles (damn, those lists can be long) but didn't think that was how most people are. How about you? What's your ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:52 PM
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Do you think that introverted men and women are just by themselves all the time? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:22 PM
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That's more true than either of those sides would like to admit, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:21 PM
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Does it? I must say I enjoy playing with my occulus, and VR is pretty cool, but I prefer living in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:20 PM
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I don't think so. Maybe a lot of people, but not everyone's. For example, boyfriend S is practically my ideal already. The only thing I'd add to his personality is a better long-term memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:19 PM
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Depends on how many kids they have and what quality of life they want to give to said offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:17 PM
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Uh I'm not sure to understand, I don't meet newnerds people at game stores, I see children there most of the time. Are you talking about a hacker space? No. It must be a demographic thing. I rarely see anyone under the age of 16-17 in my own two local gaming stores, and the majority of customers I encounter when I stop by on Wednesday nights and Saturday afternoons are mid-20s to early 40s. On the occasional Friday night I'll swing over, all the Magic players are definitely college age if not ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:51 AM
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Aw, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:22 AM
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Lol, that's adorkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:19 AM
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Good bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:18 AM
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How much of the nerd population does this really describe though? I mean, unless you live in the middle of nowhere most towns and cities have at least one FLGS that serves as a meeting point for the nerds of the area, some of which will be women themselves. And the overwhelming majority of us went to co-ed high schools, colleges, and have some female coworkers. You almost have to work at it nowadays to be the caricature of a nerd people still automatically think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:18 AM
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Darn. I was going to say have a friend over here make a Dalek and just put a screen in it, but your connection would be shitty at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:12 AM
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Honest question here. If you want a man to seduce you because you find him attractive but he doesn't, would you then attempt a seduction of your own to try and get him to reciprocate? Like say you're at a party and see a guy you think is hot, but he hasn't noticed you, or he has but is still just hanging out on the couch talking. What do you do? Would you go up and introduce yourself in a blatantly flirtatious way?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:09 AM
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Unbalanced how? Because they have hobbies that can take up a lot of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 10:03 AM
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I agree with that. Like how I enjoy going to reptile shows, but neither of my boyfriends do. Or how one is into watching hockey and the other enjoys pub crawls, but neither of those things interest me whatsoever. Having your own hobbies is a sign of being your own independent person who's life doesn't revolve around your relationship 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:52 AM
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But after all it depends what you think a nerd is. To me a nerd has a big big passion or hobby for something and is introvert. So using your definition, could a mechanic be a "nerd" if his passion is refurbishing old cars? Here in the US, the term nerd is typically used to describe someone who is in a specific subculture related to gaming and/or comic books, is usually socially awkward, introverted, and does very well in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:49 AM
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Very true. Like you said, when we were growing up playing videogames or reading comics or knowing what a 20-sided die was for spelt out your social pariahship. We were automatically cast out as the nerds, geeks, awkward kids and basically banded together to "survive" school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:43 AM
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You can't rewire attraction, but you could date someone you don't find attractive. I wouldn't recommend it though. Maybe it would work if you found someone on the tail end of your attraction threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:36 AM
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guys don't want women to always be up in their hobbies. This sounds weird, like it's actually the guy's hobby and his girlfriend/wife is just... what? Tagging along? It could be her hobby as well. My first boyfriend and I met and connected over a 4 hour long D&D game, and we still play with mutual friends once a month and buy comics together every 2 weeks. Neither of us are "up in the other's hobby", we just happen to share some. I admit though, it would be absurd and way too clingy if a chick d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:31 AM
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You don't know any female nerds?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:24 AM
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Nerds play games to a fun, not find women...But annoying ass chicks make it about themselves and are so self-centered they don't understand why guys get annoyed by this shit Exactly. Like I said in my own comment, I've never experienced any misogyny when I game. But I am not a "girl gamer", I am a gamer who happens to be female. Just don't bring up your gender. It's not relevant to the game, and makes you look like an attention whore instead of someone who's in it for the hobby itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:21 AM
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Oh, for fucks sake. Kotaku is bending over backwards yet again to try and prove the majority of male gamers are totally against the very idea of female gamers. Newsflash: Some are, most are not. Of the ones that are, even some of them have good reason to be frustrated and suspicious of us. There are female gamers who don't let you forget they're women and bring it up in every goddamn conversation, ones who pester you for codes or items that they should just go find or buy themselves (and instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 09:13 AM
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Lol. Is the name of the man in question Brian van Hoose? shout-out to any of my fellow KODT fans! But seriously, is it just that it's a long distance relationship and nobody else has met her? That's fine. Is it a case of severe hallucinations? That is significantly less fine. Is she a "ghost"? That would be cool since I don't believe in the supernatural but would be willing to change my mind given testable evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:38 AM
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To each their own. I found it very unpleasant when I tried it on my arm and inner thigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:28 AM
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Maybe? It's possible we don't have the separate words to adequately discuss this. All I know is that my physical self and part of my brain is always "ready" or actively seeking out attractive sexual partners, and I do find a decent amount of men sexually attractive in passing, but I don't want to consciously have sex with all of them because that would just be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:26 AM
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What personality would your ideal woman have?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:15 AM
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Same shit, different shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:37 AM
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Exactly. Everything is a trade-off and it's almost impossible to find a woman who is completely in the middle. Those are the true "unicorns"... essentially a Stepford Wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:34 AM
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Being sexually aroused and wanting to consciously act on said arousal are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 01:30 AM
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So, what do you think of these comments? They have a definite ring of truth to them. Are you sad that men seeking homemakers get some scorn? Admittedly it's not that much scorn, particularly when you move away from r/relationships. Not any sadder than I am when I get told I'm selfish for not wanting to be one. Are you happy this tradition is falling out of style? No, because I personally have known about a dozen women, including my own sisters, who would absolutely love to find a man to support …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:39 AM
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Ugh...yeah, I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:29 AM
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So what kind of woman does the average man truly want? It sounds like at least some (obviously not all) want an unrealistic female mate who is simultaneously masculine and feminine but doesn't have a real personality of her own and relies on cues of acceptable behavior from his current desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 12:28 AM
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I really thought that there were more Feminists...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:48 PM
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Yeah, they suck. I have no clue why anyone likes those things, but who am I to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:47 PM
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Aw, man. You need to come back!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:46 PM
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Yes, exactly! It's the eyes that are worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:46 PM
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I agree. You'd think it at least would be genetic, but my mom, sisters, and aunts are all "normal". The weird thing is I'm also the only one who got my period before age 11, and the only one who has never had cramps, nausea, PMS, or food cravings. I wonder if there's a correlation between having really easy periods and the way sexuality is experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:45 PM
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Pudgy is awesome! In my personal opinion, though. Obviously can't speak for anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:37 PM
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I have actually noticed this when I still was trying rather unsuccessfully to date in high school and college. The majority of men say they like tomboys and think we're awesome and gods gift to men... but then when they find out you're not going to be growing your hair out long for them, or wearing heels and dresses for them, or acting like arm candy or being demure and cultivating any feminine grace? Well. The majority become disinterested quickly. Took me years to find just one who didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:37 PM
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It definitely was when I was younger and hormones were a new thing for me. Nowadays it's just mildly inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:31 PM
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It's in downtown Indy, a 4 day gaming/cosplay/nerd convention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:29 PM
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And that's fine, everyone can have their own opinions. Mine is that the second pic looks disgusting, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:28 PM
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I honestly don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:27 PM
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Thanks for letting me know. I'm just copying the link off of Google, but maybe it's giving problems because it is on mobile? I'll try posting pics another way!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:27 PM
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That's pretty cool. I know there's at least two other females here who also have very active sex drives, but we really are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:08 PM
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Ah, okay. Yes, I was trying to find out if women would choose A over B, or vice versa and it didn't quite work out that way for some responses. Sorry, I thought you meant I was creating leading questions in my op.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:50 PM
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The majority of men I see in passing are average to slightly above. Anywhere from 5-8, if we're using a 10 point scale. Maybe my standards are just hella low, but that's good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:45 PM
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Thanks for your input!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:40 PM
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Right? That's what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:40 PM
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Unfortunately that's what I'm picking up here. Very unexpected given this is PPD, not 2X or r/askwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:39 PM
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I wasn't trying to prevent any responses though. I was confident people would say exactly how they felt about this. Though I admit I was expecting more acceptance of dolls over prostitutes, and am surprised by the results, I tried to keep all factors even to not push anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:38 PM
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Do they have to be all three?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:36 PM
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I wasn't, but maybe I should... Honestly, I am blown away by the reactions towards sex dolls I'm getting. I'd read about this type of visceral, grossed out feeling women have towards dolls from men on a MGTOW channel I watched, and I was positive that they were exaggerating. Apparently they were right on the money though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:35 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:30 PM
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Q4Women: Is your "type" anything other than fit? Why? I prefer anything from dadbod to chubby. Not horribly overweight and not morbidly obese, but "pleasantly plump" I suppose you could call it. These types of men just look better than one with bulging muscles, less than 18% body fat, chiseled abs kind of guy. Like, c'mon...look at this guy. His body looks healthy and normal in the first pic, but the second pic looks like he has some eldritch abomination crawling under his stomach making it all …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:29 PM
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True. When was the last time you were there?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:22 PM
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Like some of the other female commenters here, my libido is always switched to the "on" position. I honestly can't recall a time since puberty that my body hasn't been kinda idling in a state of semi-arousal. It sounds similar to what my boyfriends and male friends talk about, where sex is just a constantly running background program, if that makes any sense. As such, I don't think there's a way for me to see men in a non-sexual way. Sure, men can be cute (like if they're playing with a puppy) o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:18 PM
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It is a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:27 PM
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Not usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:06 PM
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Is this something they have discussed on r/sex or r/askwomen? The majority of dildos I sell, both in store and online are under 7" long and under 3" wide. If the average woman really wanted a huge penis, it'd be really easy to buy toys that match said demand. I know from trying to use toys that are larger than 6" long that it's actually uncomfortable, bordering on painful and am quite happy both my boyfriends aren't big sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:05 PM
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Okay, that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:02 PM
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I wouldn't know if they didn't know. Due to the nature of our relationship we're all extremely pro-consent and verbalizing what we need/want. It is possible, but I know that if they detected any hesitation from the prostitute in question they'd just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:01 PM
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Isn't that like saying a deli owner can't get robbed of his groceries because he sells them to paying customers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:59 PM
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You said you're growing in number. I was asking if that's true. It'd be interesting if it was, because I had thought most polls showed fewer Feminists nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:57 PM
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We've actually only had a threesome twice. It's not really our thing, one-on-one sex is preferable. But... I get what you're saying. I'm only against sex that is non-consenting, everything else is fair game lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:56 PM
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Cool, thanks for your input!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:01 PM
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Idk. Is she open to having a "threesome"? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:01 PM
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I definitely believe a man's or woman's sexual history matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:00 PM
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Are we usually?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:00 PM
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Yeah, I'm honestly surprised by the reactions I'm getting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:59 PM
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Are you? I thought that fewer women identify as Feminists nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:58 PM
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Thanks! My shift is starting now but I'll take a look at the link on my lunch break.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:57 PM
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Do you think it's the lifeless aspect of it? I will admit to being slightly creeped out by the dolls on the rare occasion someone buys one, it really is like carrying a 95 lbs "body". But I've seen hand held toys that are far more "terrifying", lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:56 PM
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It would be interesting to hear from someone here who lives in a country with legalized prostitution...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:53 PM
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I thought that he was looking for a male version of the actual phrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:52 PM
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That's okay with me. Can you explain why you believe that someone cannot sell their consent to have sex for money with a client?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:51 PM
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Is this true in other countries where it is legalized? I have a hunch that criminal activity begets more criminal activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:50 PM
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That's fair, thanks for explaining!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:48 PM
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I'm not talking about sex trafficking. I'm specifically referring to people who actively choose to work as a sexual contractor at a brothel or who work independently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:21 PM
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Interesting. This seems to be the case with most responses so far. Can you say why the doll is a worse choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:19 PM
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Then what would you say about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:18 PM
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Yes, sex dolls are toys. Humanoid ones certainly, and definitely very expensive, but I don't see a difference between those or a large mechanical dildo machine or a sybian or a penis pump with a vaginal and anal attachment. They are not alive, they aren't sentient, they're actually just pretty toys that are heavy to move. I'm not saying you are wrong or trying to judge you for your reaction, I'm just not seeing where it comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:17 PM
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Why not? Let's take an escort I knew in college for example. Carmen was 21 so obviously above the age of consent. She came from an upper middle class family who was paying for the majority of her education. She was an escort on the weekends for extra cash, and admitted that she frequently had sex with her clients, not in exchange for actual cash but for tax free "gifts" of jewelry that she could then sell or keep. If my classmate wasn't selling sex...what was she doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:13 PM
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I guess my question was more of why would you be disgusted by the choices? I can understand the prostitution one a bit, because like I said I prefer men with N counts similar to mine and having one significantly higher is gross to me. But I can't understand having a visceral reaction to a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 01:09 PM
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Even when the woman (or man, to be fair to male sex workers) chose that job themselves? Is there actually a problem if men and women "objectify" themselves as a living?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:51 PM
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Well, I mean it is both sexes trying to claim that the other is severely lacking in good potential partners...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:49 PM
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I disagree with your assertion, but appreciate your consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:47 PM
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He would have been monogamous with you. My post specified this actually, when I wrote "or a man who visited sex workers once a month up until meeting you?" Fleshlights or other toys can presumably be used with a partner, but a sex doll is a replacement for a partner. So if a woman uses a dildo or a man uses a fleshlight without a partner, regardless if they have one or not, do you think that's not healthy? It's comparable to that time I dated a guy in college, and he dropped three months in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:33 PM
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So then do you have a problem with the fact that the Real Doll company makes male dolls for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:28 PM
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How would you determine that he thinks of women as nothing more than sexual objects from either of these two possibilities though? I think if someone is a rapist or molester, then it's obviously true but don't see the connection between that and using expensive toys or paying for sexual services.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:27 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:37 AM
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Power plays? I'm not sure what you're referring to. One of my boyfriends has told me that when he had a dry spell in his late 20s he'd go to a massage parlour for a rub n' tug. Neither of us count that towards his N though... Like I said in my op, I don't want a high N partner because I'm low N myself. If he visited the same one or two prostitutes each time, like a repeat customer, I'd be okay with that. I'd not be okay with the knowledge he stuck his dick in a different woman each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:37 AM
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Oh! Okay, thanks for the explanation. I can understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:33 AM
2

Would learning either one be an immediate deal breaker for continuing your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:59 AM
1

Why would both be?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:57 AM
1

Lol. I don't know what this means. Aren't we already talking about sex robots? Do you mean just toys that aren't humanoid looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:56 AM
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Because it's important know things about my boyfriends, like what their favorite foods are, what movies they hate, when they had their first crush, if they like amusement parks, what vegetables they don't eat, if they've ever been to a different country, etc. Just knowing more about them as a full person with their own lives before I met them, and keeping up to date with them once we're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:55 AM
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Okay...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:52 AM
1

Would you break up with the guy in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:28 AM
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I agree, I've always thought dolls...even regular baby dolls or Barbies...were kinda unsettling. But I'd still prefer my boyfriend getting a sex doll than sharing sexual intimacy with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:27 AM
1

You wouldn't prefer to know this about a partner at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:25 AM
1

What's that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:07 AM
7

"All Women Are Like That"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:06 AM
1

Many people do still call it the Mecca of Gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:04 AM
1

Lol. Oh, I know. I've been to Gencon the last 14 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:02 AM
1

Do all Alphas necessarily have big dicks? Because that can be a turnoff for some of us...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:01 AM
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Ew, gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 08:59 AM
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I don't know if they were orbiters, but it has already been created. http://geekologie.com/2014/08/penis-ring-thrust-counter-and-sexual-per.php
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 08:57 AM
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Thinking they are awesome and respecting them serve the same function in this discussion. It is a better starting point if they feel that way if you are trying to attract them. Okay. I am leery of using the term "respect" in this way because imo it's on a much different level, but will agree to it for the purpose of our conversation. Fair enough and I agree. But 2 things. EMALT/EWALT does not flow off of the tongue as nicely, Eh, saying ee-walt instead of ay-walt isn't any different, nor is typi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:27 PM
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1) you have probably ruled yourself out of really being LTR material for any young, attractive and unmarried woman. Why? Other than the fact he'd probably have kids, I don't see any reason to not date a divorced man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:02 PM
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I'd agree with that. Kind of like how I can sympathize with the people who cheat after being in a dead bedroom for years. Sex is a need, it's cruel to claim exclusivity to your partner's sexual access and constantly deny them, regardless of whether you're a man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 08:37 PM
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For people with penises (who haven't gone through HRT), teasing during sex - letting the anticipation build - is frustrating and can range from uncomfortable to painful. I am really dubious of this "fact". Both my boyfriends enjoy orgasm delay play, teasing, and half hour long blowjobs, slow fucking, or penile massages. If it were painful, I doubt very much that they'd constantly request that I "slow down and take my time".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:43 PM
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That's just what I was about to ask...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:40 PM
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Q4All: Can you negatively judge such sexual activities between two consenting adults while remaining sex positive (assuming Jams is sex positive)? No. Q4All: Is operating under the assumption that women are emotionally damaged by sex, sex negative? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:39 PM
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Well, if they are fine being the monogamous one in an open relationship, then that's fine. If not, it shouldn't be open to either partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:38 PM
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Why should I love a man monogamously for my entire life if he's not willing to do the same? That's like having a "friend" who wants you to pick up the check when you eat out together but never does it themselves and is just a mooch. For what it's worth, I'm not monogamous either. I have two boyfriends and we're in a poly relationship together. But when my initial boyfriend asked me if he could open our relationship to include another man, my response was that the newcomer also had to be bisexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 10:48 AM
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Untrue. Most men do not want to be monogamous. If anything, the majority of males want to have numerous partners. I'm not saying all are like that, and perhaps you are not, but it's disingenuous to say "most" men want a monogamous lifetime relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 10:08 AM
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How do most men want to be loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:32 AM
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If there was such a scan, it would show things that are not capable of being given value but still combine to make you unique. For example, my scan would show; -Physical factors: Female, 5'8", 146 lbs, 36-27-36, Caucasian, blonde, freckled, grey eyes, short hair, pinkie toes that curve inward, very slight spinal curvature from scoliosis, etc. And -Mental factors: 132 IQ, tomboy, on the autism spectrum, fear of rollercoasters, loves the woods but doesn't like beaches, minor OCD especially when wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:11 AM
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I don't think I'm anyone's hope, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 08:52 AM
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But at the end of the day, we still want to be loved by women regardless. Do you think this is still true for those in the manosphere who actually believe women are incapable of loving men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 08:51 AM
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What about human individuality/uniqueness? I am a unique individual because of my combination of traits, not in spite of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 01:20 AM
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Even when I click the link now it says there is nothing there. But I see this so its all good. Cool. I agree. But I can see why. We respect people more who do the hard things. Meh, not really. Or at least I do not, I'm willing to believe other people do. For example, if I met someone who had successfully climbed Mount Everest, I'd think they were pretty darn awesome but I wouldn't have any respect for them because of it. It is easy to not approach anyone. Think of our culture and how much automa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 01:18 AM
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Really? It shows up fine for me... Here's what it said: Part of being proactive in your attractiveness as a man is approaching women. Unfortunately this does seem to often be the case. I don't see why, because being physically attractive is irrelevant to your ability to approach, but that's a whole other conversation. I don't think it is dumb at all. I think everyone has their own passions and if it is for the greater good, I am for it. Thank you. It is not my passion to correct every time becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 08:47 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 06:42 PM
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I actually already answered you last week... https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/868cyg/comment/dw6ip0s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 06:41 PM
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Definitely not. Not unless he did it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:13 PM
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I think the reason for this phenomena is that women use too many cosmetics. They know that it's possible to cover up minor issues with their blushes and foundations and powders, so subconsciously they are thinking "this guy doesn't look nearly as good as I do when I walk out the door". Meanwhile his face is completely naked and obviously natural while hers is not. Even when they have a "natural" look, like when my sisters use the Bare Minerals products, it's not their true face... it's an ideali…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 11:14 AM
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Only sometimes? 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 11:10 AM
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And my point is...so what? Unless you are literally deformed, with big lumps on your face or jagged teeth or a significantly cleft palate, few people are going to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:33 AM
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Purple Pill, so under Automod. But I have many small missions. 1) Become debt free. This one is going well, if I'm careful and live like a hermit as I had to while unemployed, I can accomplish it by this December. I just want to know what it's like to not have to budget all the time. 2) Start making a stock portfolio and contributing more to my IRA. This is dependent on when I finish the first goal. 3) Do more for my local community. I already volunteer at the SPCA doing dogwalking on Saturday, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:17 AM
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Your husband sounds like me. Last week my younger boyfriend was over and we were killing Nazi zombies in CoD, I just randomly asked him if he wanted to fuck after the mission was over. I could practically hear him rolling his eyes, lol. But I got sex, that's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:00 AM
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Maybe all the ones he gets on apps are shallow or have terrible personalities when he talks to them. I know if I were a guy, I'd be very cautious about using dating apps and would prefer to meet people IRL. I've seen what women say to men online...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:55 AM
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Indianapolis
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:50 AM
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Symmetry isn't the end all, be all. I don't think I know anyone who has a perfectly symmetrical face, not even myself. One of my ears has a "dent" in it along the top and I have a 1 centimeter lump on the right side of my nose. The freckles on the left side of my face are darker than the right too, which gives an optical illusion of asymmetry. Damn, I must be pretty hideous by this guy's standards...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:49 AM
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What are the key takeaways from Nancy Friday? Lol. All you have to do is Google some of her books and read the synopsis to get that answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:44 AM
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Mostly, hubby needs to verbally and physically demonstrate his desire for me to get me in the mood. How would he do this? (No need to be graphic obviously, I'm just curious about the actions taken.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:04 AM
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Nope, you understood it fine!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:02 AM
1

Wow. I'm honestly very glad for you that you're no longer together. That sounds like a hellish sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 02:00 AM
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Don't let anyone else see you say that. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:55 AM
1

I didn't realize you were such a Chad, squidracer...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:44 AM
2

Possibly. The ones I'm dating and are friends with are all kind, friendly to newcomers, egalitarian or slightly feminist, are generally teachers or administration workers in colleges and hospitals, and just easygoing in general. Neither of my partners has ever asked me to put on makeup, heels, or dresses and they say they don't really care. What were the ones you knew like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:42 AM
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A steady job is definitely a good thing. I can understand being between jobs or being temporarily unemployed...hell, it's happened to me and my poor savings account took quite the hit until I found a new job...but I don't want to be financially supporting anyone, the same as I don't want anyone supporting me. Sex, love, and companionship, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:36 AM
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Agreed, it absolutely depends on where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:32 AM
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Really? I've never had that experience. Maybe it's a geographical difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:31 AM
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Yeah, definitely varies by location. I'm on the opposite coast, and in a combination rural-suburban area. Prices for apartments here are pretty sweet, it's only $950 a month for my 1-bedroom apt with a big living room and balcony which has all utilities included other than cable. Now, if I lived in the city? Holy shit... I'd have to live on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:28 AM
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Yup. Kind of like the tradcon men who claim MGTOW aren't "real men" because they don't want kids or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:17 AM
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Family members, co-workers, complete strangers who try to compliment you by saying "You're so nice/good with kids... you'll be an excellent wife/mom someday!" Then when you smile and say "Thanks! But I have decided not to get married or have children" the judgment comes out. I've had both men and women that I only met 2 minutes ago try to tell me how unfortunate my decisions are and how my life will be nothing but regret and loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:15 AM
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It's retarded. Also, what does it have to do with PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:11 AM
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So do you agree that we should work to change this in upcoming generations?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:09 AM
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Lol. You don't hang out with gamers or nerds much, huh? Trust me... they are not rare in those communities at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:07 AM
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Sorry...a lot of people don't. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:06 AM
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That would be assuming I have any right to their personal resources and wages though... which I don't. My money is mine, their money is theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:45 AM
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If we are going to continue enforcing the gender role of men being the primary bread winner Agreed. That should be up to the individual couple if they want to be Traditionalists, but it's frustrating to see other women try to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:43 AM
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There's nothing wrong with any of this. Uh... really? You don't think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:41 AM
1

Why not just date a guy who doesn't care about that stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:39 AM
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Even that is debatable. I make $34k a year and would be absolutely fine dating a man who makes the same as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:38 AM
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Wasn't me. I don't care about (or even want that really). So I wouldn't have written it. Yeah, I'll have to go back and see who it was. Well, I was really naive when I was young... That's quite a life history there. Sounds like you were following the PUA advice to basically "overdose" on pussy so you could see all women as replaceable/not unique. Obviously it works for some guys but doesn't lead to a good past for people like you (or like me, for that matter). I'm glad you are working on your bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:35 AM
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Well, that's great news! I wish you a lot of luck in finding more friends and a partner. If you ever need to talk, feel free to PM me...I know what it's like to be socially anxious. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:24 AM
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Yeah, that's never been specified in any conversations I've had. If it was, that would shed some light on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:22 AM
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I never said that I'd prefer a virgin. I don't care if the girl is a virgin. I would prefer a girl with a low n count, but, again, it's not a big deal to me and certainly not something that's a dealbreaker (it's an actual weak preference as opposed to a requirement). That's weird. Maybe it was from another commenter then... I could have sworn on my life that in one of your previous comments you said you wanted her to be a virgin. Sorry. I can't find anything on this on my usual resources. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:36 PM
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Some of them have said that it's difficult, but nobody has told me it's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:25 PM
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I've seen the same, and even though you tell them...as a woman who has the very anatomy they claim can only be "truly" satisfied with 7+ inches...that you prefer dicks that are under 6 inches, they usually don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:24 PM
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I don't think I need a higher libido though... it's trying enough as is. I worry about oral medications too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:21 PM
1

After I finish this mission...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:04 PM
1

Well yeah, Viagra is temporary too. If it wasn't, nobody would use these things lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:03 PM
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That sounds wonderful and relaxing. Good for you two 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:01 PM
1

Dick cleavage is my new favorite phrase lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:00 PM
2

Just bought my 4-day badge and plane ticket for Gencon, woot!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:47 PM
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Awesome! Got anything fun planned, or just going to enjoy each other's company?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:47 PM
1

Correction...it should be springtime, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:46 PM
1

The ones I used increased clitoral sensitivity, ergo my libido was also increased. I'm sure there are ones out there that don't do as promised though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:44 PM
1

I agree! A clean living space is a good indicator of self responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:34 PM
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No, that's really okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:32 PM
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No definitely not. My n count is high (30s). Damn, that's high. Again, I did not say that women with a high n count is in and of itself a dealbreaker. Ah, so you'd prefer a virgin for your own reasons, but if you fell in love with a non-virgin that'd be okay. However, I no longer sleep around (in fact, I have not had sex in almost 4 years since I have become an almost complete recluse in that time) and I don't trust women in our current society to not be sleeping around (while telling me that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:31 PM
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Because a few millimeters doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:13 PM
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This, exactly. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:08 PM
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Absolutely. -Not dressing in feminine clothing for special occasions shows "you just don't care what people think about you". -Never wearing makeup means "you don't practice proper female hygiene". -Getting sterilized without ever procreating is basically a sin and proves that you are "selfish" and "hate children". -Refusing to get married means you "don't have your priorities in line" and that you're "obviously a feminist and/or man-hater". -Having very short hair shows that you are "trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:04 PM
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It's all bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:52 PM
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Okay, maybe I'm just weird but...For example, the creator was going on about how because of this nasal ridge and that eye spacing, etc, etc, etc that the man in question was only a 3 in looks when I'd say he's at minimum a 5. It's just kinda cringey, like how incels who post their pics to "prove" they are ugly are almost always either average or above average. Like one guy who kept saying he was a "sub-3" but his picture clearly showed him to be a 7. I'm pretty much convinced that the overwhelmi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:51 PM
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Lol! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:46 PM
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I've never had either of those things and the idea of themselves isn't arousing but what you could do in the room definitely is. Like how I don't have a fireplace in my apartment, but some fancy hotels do... it'd be nice to have sex in front of one as a change of pace, kind of like having sex outside (which is much easier to accomplish, lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:45 PM
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Eh, just put a towel on the bed and have some fun! I hear that sex helps if you're one of the women who gets cramps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:42 PM
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I had a different experience, but accept that maybe yours was not so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:41 PM
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Are you a virgin too? I can appreciate a guy or gal wanting a virgin spouse if they are the same. Personally, I have a very low N and wouldn't want to date anyone with more than 10 previous partners, maximum. Thankfully both my boyfriends are low N too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:40 PM
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3) I'm hornier on my period, unfortunately. No changes with or without birth control Why is this unfortunate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:14 PM
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I don't know what you mean by romantic, do you mean gifts and stuff like that? Yeah, I was curious about the idea that some women get turned on by things like expensive dinners, lavish hotel rooms, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:14 PM
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Really? I've had a lot of fun with various lotions and cremes. Like I said in my post though, I don't take pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:12 PM
1

So you're going to buy some for him now? 😁😉
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:08 PM
1

Do you think that would actually help her? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 02:09 PM
3

Which hormones are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 02:08 PM
2

This is really interesting. Thanks for breaking it down!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 02:08 PM
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4) No. Once every few months I start a video, just to remember why it doesn't do it for me. I prefer my imagination, or porny fanfiction. If fanfiction does it for you, do you think seeing those characters in porn would do it for you? I guess I'm wondering if it's the characters themselves vs the kind of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 01:43 PM
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I've never heard this, although I have heard that obesity has a negative effect on sex drive. Is this what you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 01:41 PM
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The majority of these women (though not all) are in either marriages or LTRs with their boyfriends, so obviously they do want to desire their partners and have in the past, or are trying to become more sexual to improve the relationship. What advice would you have for a woman in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 01:39 PM
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Absolutely!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 01:35 PM
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4) i used to on occasion, not much anymore. i don’t really do ‘solo’ time that much anyway, though. Not enough time, or not enough need? 5) would need more. i see my husband naked all the time, and nudity (even when it’s him) is not inherently sexual to me. if i know that is his intent/desire, though, that does change things (but it’s more the desire than the nakedness having that effect). Do you think if you didn't see him naked as often it would make it more sexually enticing when he was? I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:54 PM
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I've made my post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/870duk/nsfw_female_arousal_and_reactive_sexuality/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:36 PM
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I was looking over the comments in your post, and think that the best way for you to understand them is to actually talk to Atlas since they're her views. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to repeat them again in my post since you already have them here with lots of discussion. Why beautiful women specifically? You don't want advice from average and above average women also? I'm just saying, I don't think we're going to have more than a handful of women who are 9/10 here the majority will be 5/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 11:14 AM
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Honestly, I try to simply avoid any long-term commitment while in the US. I'm currently building up my business and plan to leave the country in search of something serious over the next few years. Hope that works for you and that you find what you're looking for. Frankly, while I don't necessarily believe in AWALT, I think women that are not constantly sleeping around are so rare that it's not even worth trying. By "sleeping around" do you mean serial monogamy or ONS? In other words would you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:56 AM
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Sorry, u/DefiantShallot, but as soon as the weird face mapping started a 6:12 in the video I couldn't watch it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:48 AM
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Regarding sexuality, anything written by Nancy Friday.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:39 AM
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Is this really a common thing or is it just the girls who like to fix someone? Can't recall ever hearing someone say this. I would guess it's only from women who date those kinds of men. It probably would get tiresome from either sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:34 AM
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I would be very concerned, because my partners and I talk a lot during sex and it would be bizarre for them to be annoyed with it. I'd be extra attentive to their body language as we continued fucking, paying attention to see if they're in pain (maybe they pulled a muscle earlier in the day) or look like they are pretending to not be upset/wanting to cry (maybe they had a shit day at work or a fight with a family member and are still processing it).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:30 AM
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True, but how does one know what an individual woman typically behaves if he does not know her well beforehand. He doesn't, but she doesn't know you well either. You could be having sex with other women while dating her, and she wouldn't be aware. It is best to do some research on people before dating them for this reason. Look to see what they post on social media...if they go out drinking/partying most weekends, have had numerous flings, or have their relationship status as "Complicated" that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:21 AM
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Basically, yeah. Either that or people who just want to be able to say they got hitched.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 12:41 AM
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Fwiw, I can understand a guy getting upset if he knows that a specific woman is known for having casual sex with random men after an hour of meeting them at a bar, yet she makes him wait for months before having sex with him. It's like if you have two dogs and one gets a bone just for being there but you make the other one do a bunch of tricks before letting them have it. Since even canines are social animals capable of jealousy, it really isn't a surprise that humans will react in similar ways.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:53 PM
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Sex + love + close friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:42 PM
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Have you ever tried using the Meetup app like I mentioned above? It's much easier to make new friendships with people who share your hobbies. Or what about any of the people you work with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 09:41 PM
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I find cocks and male chests/nipples to be very attractive. Ass not quite so much, although I do enjoy anal play.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 09:00 PM
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True. I am sorry that you are lonely though. It's rare for me to experience that because when I come home from work I need a few hours to myself to unwind from the day, so I like that I live alone. Don't get me wrong, I do love my boyfriends but don't want to be around them during every minute of free time I have. Do you have any female friends you could take as your "plus one" to social events? Even if your relationship is purely platonic, at least you won't feel like a third wheel...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 08:56 PM
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No, I don't mean "things I do", I mean they question some of the same things I also question. I'll PM you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 08:22 PM
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Oh my, that thread is amazing already. They definitely question some of the same things I do...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 08:07 PM
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Because for some reason women think men's toys are "objectifying" to the female body, while their own toys are not. I find it amusing and ironic indeed when a woman buying a lifelike, veined, perfectly molded, pureskin dildo that looks exactly like a penis will find a likewise molded, perfectly shaped, handheld pussy sleeve complete with labia to be "gross".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 07:59 PM
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You can cope a bit by doing hobbies that interest you, you'll still have fun and social interaction withhout needing to worry about any romance crap. It'll help keep your mind on yourself and give you goals other than finding a partner. Always remember to go your own way, and don't settle for a woman who isn't what really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 06:54 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odour_and_sexual_attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 05:30 PM
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Thanks! I don't see her comments, so this is helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 05:15 PM
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It's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 05:14 PM
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You know, I think even parts of my attraction are more feminine. I consider my attraction to be driven by an emotional connection just as much (if not more than) physicality, but at the same time recognize I wouldn't want to date someone that isn't hot to me. (Look at that cognitive dissonance). Wanting both physical attractiveness and emotional connection from a partner isn't cognitive dissonance, it's just wanting a total human being. After all, people have mental, emotional, sexual, and physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 05:14 PM
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Okay, I'll try to work those in then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:49 PM
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No problem. Is there any particular question you'd like me to include?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:38 PM
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Hmmm. Maybe she smells good to them because they are compatible, but you're obviously not...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:37 PM
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Definitely. Fair warning, it probably won't be until tonight (it's currently 12:30pm where I live).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:34 PM
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I didnt really mean it like that, I think people do certain things to like "pay their dues" so that they can be selfish or less generous in the future Maybe some people do? I don't know, that seems really off. Like, just because I'm a really nice person to my partners Monday thru Friday doesn't mean I can be a bitch on Saturday. Or that because I gave 12 cans of vegetables instead of 6 to the food pantry this weekend doesn't mean I should just skip it totally next time. It doesn't work like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:33 PM
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Interesting. Are you bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:04 PM
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We don't do it in my relationship, but I can understand why other men and women might feel it's necessary or they like that their partner does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 03:49 PM
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Definitely. And it's not even a case of smelling bad like old sweat/lack of hygiene. It's because of things like histocompatibility and immune systems that work well together, thus producing stronger offspring. Even if the man or woman in question doesn't want kids, our bodies still look for good potential mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 03:44 PM
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So my experiences with an open relationship don't count because my partners are bi, is what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 03:40 PM
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You sound a hell of a lot like one of my boyfriends, who is also very empathetic towards others and doesn't go to any great lengths to hide his emotions. Frankly, those are some of the traits I like best about him, particularly because I'm pretty stoic and outwardly closed off so he's a good complement to that. It helps him a lot at his job (he's a daycare provider at a rather fancy program/pseudo-school for rich toddlers) and makes him popular at parties because he's a bit of a entertainer with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 03:15 PM
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Nah, we've spoken quite a few times. You're hardly a child in any sense of the word. I blame your school, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:31 PM
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You mean bisexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 02:30 PM
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Did you find yourself just generally distrusting the opposite sex? Definitely not. Like many autistic females the majority of my friends have always been males, even as young as first grade (though the nuns really disapproved of it). Have you managed to overcome it and have meaningful relationships with males? There wasn't anything to overcome, honestly. My brain doesn't automatically catalog people into "Horrible Men" vs "Horrible Women", it's more "Assholes: Sex Irrelevant" vs "Nice People: Se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 01:32 PM
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You will never be able to lay this topic to rest because women are individuals just like men are. Some care a hell of a lot about having a man who's taller, some don't care at all, and a minority actually like being the taller partner. I personally don't give a shit. I'm 5'8", one of my boyfriends is 5'11, and the other is 5'5". There's women out there who would deem both of them too short, even if she is only 5'4". It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:50 PM
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Perhaps it's because people tend to think of all female "wetness" as lubrication? My second partner didn't have a good health education, and had previously only dated males. He was amazed (but thankfully not grossed out) to learn that women's genitals do indeed get wet when we're aroused... but the vagina is also a self cleaning organ and we have non-blood discharge at other times as well, either just daily or on certain parts of our cycle. I have a hunch that a lot of guys out there still haven…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:42 PM
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I kinda want to do a Q4W post about this, it'd probably help women like us and men in general understand this "reactivity".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:15 PM
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Maybe it's just extrapolated from how women in general seem to "work"? I work in the sex toy industry, and the amount of female customers I've spoken to who had "negative" experiences with creams and pills that supposedly increase female libido is pretty damn significant. The most common complaint is that while the creams/pills did indeed make their clits more sensitive to touch or increased blood flow and lubrication to their vaginas... apparently this doesn't translate into horniness for them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:12 PM
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Absolutely. I've felt similar to how you do, and even if I hadn't it's quite easy to sympathize with your experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:00 PM
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The thing I'm having trouble grasping is how you're coming to the conclusion these women are shallow, if by shallow you mean they are only attracted to you for your looks? I know a few men who are shallow because they bullied me, stole my books, and called me names in high school because I was an awkward, 4-eyed, acne ridden, nerdy bookworm who wore loose fitting clothing and struggled with dandruff all through puberty. Nothing of my personality has changed significantly, I'm still the same pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:38 AM
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I don't mean any offense when I ask this u/Maikowski2, but why are you asking "how horniness manifests"? I mean, you have genitals of your own. Did you not have a health class that taught the similarities and differences between male and female arousal? It's okay if you didn't! A lot of people apparently don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:12 AM
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Nah, I'm the same exact way. We're not defective, we just have active rather than reactive libidos. Neither is better or worse, they're just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:07 AM
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1) I agree with the part where she says "Not only am I talking about physically attractive women, but I think the more neurotypically female a woman is the less likely she is actually to be physically attracted to human males." My sexuality is not reactive to things like money, status, resources, etc but rather how a man looks and smells. If I find a man attractive, he will be attractive because of his body... putting him in front of a Lamborghini vs a Jeep, or giving him a fat wallet vs him ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:04 AM
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That's good. Too many women and men think that a shit relationship is better than no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:37 AM
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Thanks, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:36 AM
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As soon as your date puts you down, speaks to you in a childish or patronizing way, or verbally abuses you...next them. There's no need to put up with that shit when there's plenty of men who view women as their equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:35 AM
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I have no idea. Can't think of a single time I've said that, or even heard it. If a guy does something helpful, I just say "wow, he's a legitimately nice/helpful dude". Like, why the need to point out he has a dick? If a woman does something helpful she's also just a nice dude, I don't say "Wow, she's such a woman". It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:30 AM
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That's fine. I haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:25 AM
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It would help me, because I'd have $25 more every month. That adds up quite a bit over time. I identify as an egalitarian, so donating towards men's causes which get far less attention than female ones is simply me living up to this identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:25 AM
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How? It is an open relationship with numerous partners. Any one of us, myself included, is 100% able to go sleep with other people if we want. Nobody "owns" anyone else. The fact that we've thusfar all chosen to be poly with the three of us doesn't sound like it should disqualify it from your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 04:23 AM
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Absolutely. Being fake takes work, being myself is as natural as breathing. Who needs extra stress in their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 10:21 PM
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So Change My View: The only time an open relationship is a good deal for a guy is when he is considerably more attractive than his women. Otherwise, sex is a women's weapon and he will lose this battle In my open relationship, he's the one who wanted to do so because he's bisexual and I'm only capable of being a woman (obviously). So now I have a MFM poly relationship. We are all quite happy with this arrangement and my boyfriends actually moved in together recently to save on bills. I truly do …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:11 PM
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That's the only way change happens, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:06 PM
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Okay. It didn't seem to match to anything I said, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:05 PM
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It is very safe to assume all women are hypergamous at their core. Is it though? The majority of Red Pillers seem to believe hypergamy is inherently biological to all (using the literal meaning of all) females everywhere. I don't believe that, and think it's more likely to be a social norm taught to girls when they're young. If a girl isn't taught to look to men for resources and instead taught to procure her own and never expect handouts, then she simply won't be hypergamous. The same could hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:04 PM
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Thanks. Apparently some people don't like it though, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:59 PM
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That's not guilt, that's empathy. I am not responsible for the fact there's no male birth control pills yet, and don't feel any guilt about it, but I still donate to the Parsemus Foundation since they're working on it. It's out of a desire to help men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:58 PM
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That's what I call an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:55 PM
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True, but we shouldn't keep making sexist comments against men and women just because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:55 PM
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I always use EWALT... enough women are like that to warrant men being cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:53 PM
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You mean someone who uses the BLM hashtag to make comments that incite violence but don't go out in public and therefore are safe from the riot they helped create?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:41 PM
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You think the only reason people donate their time and money to help others is because they "feel bad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:36 PM
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nah. I just think that treating women as if they're not is dangerous, due to past experience in my own life. It can definitely work and there are women out there that temper their hypergamy if not curb it altogether. Personally I don't think all of us have hypergamy. In some cases, we aren't curbing it because it's not even there to begin with. This is something I disagree with trp about, the same as I disagree with Feminists that "all men have the potential to rape". Both are false. It's just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 10:14 AM
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I spend a lot more time on YouTube than the r/TRP sub, so it's probably just that we're looking at a different demographic. It's not nitpicking in my experience in the RP community as a whole including all mediums, but will accept your assertion that it may be a minority on Reddit alone. I have seen it more in r/MGTOW than r/TRP, to be fair. So question for you as an individual... You don't believe that all women are inherently hypergamous or that we're biologically incapable of loving our male …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:51 AM
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How are you defining popularity, OP? In high school I was not one of the Popular GirlsTM like the cheerleaders or makeup queens that could literally walk through the hallways like Moses parting the Red Sea, floating above us all like in the movie Heathers. But I was popular and well known in my general social circle of nerds, geeks, goths, and anyone from debate club, anime club, honor society, and the after school Environmental Science projects. I'm guessing that the kind of popularity you're r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:33 AM
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you've been here long enough to know that trp accepts there are potential exceptions. Some do, some don't. Awalt is promoted because a lot of women tend to fall under it, with the idea being that you're better safe than sorry. I have no problem at all with men "treating each gun as loaded" especially in the current social climate. I take issue with assertions that every single gun ever comes out of the factory preloaded. Generalizations are never inclusive of EVERY type of individual, humans can…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:18 AM
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I never got married It's better to not get married nowadays. and I agree with AWALT (although I have met some extremely rare western-born exceptions). So... you don't actually believe AWALT then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:06 AM
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I wasn't even going to comment on this thread, but just wanted to say I adore your analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:04 AM
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They both make fair points. They both make shitty points, and basically right at where the other does the opposite. This sums it up very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:59 AM
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Doesn't feminism scapegoat men entirely? Yes. I'm not a Feminist though, I'm an Egalitarian. Two wrongs don't make a right, and like I said previously I call out both sides for saying "all men are X" or "all women are X". Isn't the idea that "society, gynocentrism, and social norms in general" being "the true cause" pretty feminist/culturally Marxist in the first place? Isn't cultural Marxism just a conspiracy theory regarding the Frankfurt school? Or are you using a different definition? Most F…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:56 AM
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Well, at least they are inviting both of you. That's much better than trying to steal him away like those other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:37 AM
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Well yeah. We're made into scapegoats by some RP and MGTOW guys within the manosphere for everything wrong with male/female relations. Just go onto almost any MGTOW or Red Pill channel on YouTube, and you'll see a flood of comments like "men didn't start this fight, but women have ended it", "sorry ladies, you've burned too many bridges for us to ever want to rebuild them", "all the good men really are gone because none of us want your cheating, alpha chasing asses", "just remember gentlemen... …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:34 AM
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I don't believe everyone is purely self-interested, but than many/most are. If 100% were we wouldn't have humanitarian organizations or charities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:23 AM
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I know, I was being flippant because of the Chad worship that is frequently brought up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:21 AM
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Did you mean to reply to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:19 AM
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This is pretty much my stance in your words. But with that knowledge I think, "of course 100% of women do not fall into the same category". But if most do, it is probably more effective to be proactive in your attractiveness, instead of seeking the minority. I agree. You are better than me in that regard, because I do not call out men whenever I see them say things like that about women. It's a choose your battles sort of thing. I just hate double standards. It's a rather personal thing for me, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 02:33 AM
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Honestly, there's not much crap I've gotten as a woman. Sure, there's a few instances of misogynistic insults and three times I was sexually harassed/assaulted by random dudes but other than that life isn't bad at all. I've felt more "oppressed" due to my atheism or vegetarianism than my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 02:04 AM
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I would agree with that, but it still doesn't mean they are mind-readers. There's no actual way to tell someone hasn't had sex just from body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 02:01 AM
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Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:02 AM
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Is that it? I've actually asked some of the more talkative/open to communication incels about this concept and am always just told "women know because they have a second sense" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:01 AM
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A few brazen ones don't even care that I'm sitting right next to him. What the hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:59 AM
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Yeah, I'm ridiculous that way. I also signed up for the Draft with my friends when I turned 18, and always pay for my shit on dates. (Unless it's my birthday!) Seems to cost a lot to avoid double standards. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:57 AM
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Sounds about right. I mean, yeah it wouldn't have been an absurd number of recipients but definitely enough to start hurting the overall budget.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:54 AM
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Why's that? If you know, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:15 AM
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I feel the exact same way regarding male sluts. I don't think our view is typical though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 12:02 AM
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Purple, and no. There was no preselection involved in choosing either one of my partners. My first guy I met at a friend's birthday party where I was the only female present, we all hung out, watched movies, played D&D. Found him to be a pretty awesome dude, asked him out for dinner, we have stuck together for the last 8 years. Our other partner has been with us for for about 3 years, we found his profile on PoF, chatted for a few weeks, then started dating him both together and separately. Hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 11:59 PM
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Quick tangent if it's okay...Pansexual? How is that different from bisexual? I speak in generalities though. So the women I refer to are not like you. Yup, precisely why it doesn't matter to me. If it did, I don't think there'd be a way for me to take pride in it though. I'd probably be ashamed and try to improve myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:56 PM
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I wish mine was like that! I was in the 99th percentile in everything but math, and even that was 86%. Shoot... I need to go back in time and get tested in your state lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:53 PM
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Damn. Okay then. Most of my friends try to be egalitarian/non-pedestalizing towards women, although a couple are indeed slightly misandric Feminists. I'm slowly trying to introduce them to some RP concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:51 PM
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Are the average men you know and hang out with really like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:27 PM
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They're still an attractive alternative to someone who's an opinionless yes-man vs a bad boy or alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:26 PM
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Makes sense. I don't like Alphas or bad boys, so the above comment doesn't offend me either. It's difficult to take offense to something that doesn't apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:25 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:23 PM
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That's pretty cool. I got offers for a few grants since I was in the Honors Society and was going into a business program, but I declined 'em because they were only open to women. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:23 PM
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That makes sense. I couldn't afford to only work part-time unfortunately, though I definitely would have if possible. I'm glad you were able to!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:34 PM
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Would you still "take pride" in it if it didn't describe you personally? And what is there to take pride in at all? If it does describe your 'woman self', then I guess it's good because it's honest. But if your 'woman self' wasn't like that it'd be a purely neutral statement about what other people prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:31 PM
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Since it's speaking in generalities, no. It is not offensive or even critical of anyone in particular. Don't see how anyone could disagree with it. Although I do wonder why the only two choices are "bad boy" or "spineless wimp"...No average men for this dichotomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:27 PM
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Maybe u/RockinSocksII was putting themselves through college? I know I was basically running around like a headless chicken all through college. Between taking 12-15 credits each semester and holding down a full time job and dogsitting or babysitting on weekends for grocery/car insurance money, I had like...6 hours on a Saturday night to game with my friends. That was pretty much my "social life" until I graduated. After age 22, I finally had time to myself again because I wasn't scraping togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:23 PM
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Lol. Thank you for pointing this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:11 PM
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Very well put. Agree completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:08 PM
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Is there anything in TRP you disagree with? Obviously, or I would be Red Pill. Who's falling for the "fair world" fallacy now? I have no idea where you see any Just World fallacy in what I wrote. Well, that's true, but you couldn't quite address the train of thought because I never made it explicit. True, you didn't. Men that don't make efforts to have sex don't have it at all. Men that don't have sex feel somewhat weak, and that is unattractive. Except for Chads, right? Such men find partners t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:07 PM
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Okay, why would you ban a poster just for that? No warnings or second chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:01 PM
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Calling women hypergamous sluts is a mean way to phrase it, and when it is phrased that way it's usually from years of being burnt, or for humor. I don't care about it being "mean", I care about it being true. If someone wants to say many women are like that, or enough women are like that, I'll definitely agree with them. If someone wants to give the example of the loaded gun/poisoned candy jar where you decline a relationship with a woman because you can't be sure she's not like that, I'll agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:00 PM
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Why would you ban a commenter just for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:43 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:23 PM
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You are red pilled, not blue pilled. It seems you simply misunderstand the catch behind RP. No, as I stated above I'm Purple. That's the idea. You don't NEED to be excellent to no one though, life is unfair, you don't have to be fair. Be, if you want to, and the VAST majority of men there want to, but there's no obligation to be more catholic than the pope. True, you don't have to be kind or caring towards people who are kind and caring towards you. However, humans are social animals and being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 05:05 PM
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But at the cost of making the entire female sex as individuals into a scapegoat, instead of acknowledging that both men and women...aka society, gynocentrism, and social norms in general...are the true cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:56 PM
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You'd have to be married in order to get a divorce... I actually am anti-marriage until it becomes less gynocentric. Hopefully we'll begin to see changes to how monogamous divorces are done prior to fucking things up further with poly ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:54 PM
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You're acting like I promised him a relationship, when instead I promised him it's a possibility instead of an impossiblity. It's like someone saying "there are absolutely no albino humans in the world" and I respond "no, I promise you that there are and I have personally known two". In either instance, what I say is simply the fact of someone's existence, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:52 PM
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Q4ALL: How female loneliness differs from male loneliness? I don't think it varies by sex, but rather by individuals. Q4ALL: Is it possible for men to sympathize with women and vice versa? Of course. If you've felt X emotion in your life, then by all rights you should be able to understand how X feels to other people. Q4W: Have you ever felt or feel right now lonely? I've felt lonely in my life before, but only sporadically and rarely. I am the type of person who enjoys my solitude and needs lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 02:05 PM
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Being a Purple Piller, I'm not anti-RP but don't agree with some parts of it. That being said, yes there is a twofold problem. First, society doesn't particularly care about men, their rights, their bodily autonomy, their issues, and their feelings. This needs to be addressed if we want boys and men to have opportunities to grow and thrive. Yet the majority just want to stay safely behind their keyboards and not actually bring attention to these problems IRL. Secondly, too many Red Pillers, part…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:17 AM
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Is anyone denying the agency of men and women who have premarital sex? I haven't heard anyone saying it's impossible, just that it's difficult because A) sex feels fantastic B) most people have active libidos and have to deal with the drive to have sex everyday C) sexual advertising is everywhere in the West constantly reminding us of it. It's kind of like being hungry while on a reduced calorie diet and reminded 24/7 that there's cheap, easily obtained food on every major street. But men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:32 AM
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It's not up to me to keep that kind of promise. It's up to OP to acknowledge his worth and not settle for anything less than what he speaks of here. I'm simply letting him know it's not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 12:04 AM
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I didn't say you couldn't. I have two boyfriends because of the coping strategies and self-improvement I undertook, it's just more difficult than normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 12:03 AM
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but it sounds like you're asking what kind of body language a man should have? To which I would answer "Whatever feels natural to him". I'd give the same advice to a woman, too. Take sitting in a theater or on a park bench for example. You can sit with both feet on the ground, or ankles crossed, or knees spread apart, legs crossed, or one ankle up on the opposite knee, or knees together. All of these are simply just ways to sit. I prefer sitting with my a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:41 PM
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No worries, man.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 07:32 PM
1

Well, it's like a lot of Red Pillers say... "You use what works for you and disregard the rest." I read it, took what would help me succeed and become a stronger, better human being and didn't use the stuff I thought was immoral or manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:04 PM
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Precisely, thank you!
/r/MensRights21/03/18 07:02 PM
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Ugh. That's fucking disgusting. How does she live with herself, or even look in the mirror...
/r/MensRights21/03/18 07:01 PM
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Yeah, definitely. That's what I said above too. 😉 Personally, I think this discrepancy could most likely be explained by the fact more men are willing to ask for raises or talk to a new employer about their wages before being hired.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 07:00 PM
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I don't have it on me but will look after work today.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 06:59 PM
1

Aw, dude...
/r/MensRights21/03/18 06:58 PM
1

It gets difficult to deal with, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 06:58 PM
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Who says they made a series of terrible choices though? It's entirely possible that a man or woman made a single bad choice in who they married and only stayed until their kids were grown, or their spouse changed on them personality-wise, or they initiated the divorce because they were the ones cheated on. There's too many different possible reasons for a divorce to occur, I wouldn't disqualify a man from my dating pool just because he'd been a husband before (although I wouldn't date a guy with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:58 PM
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I really hope there aren't people who think like that.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 01:55 PM
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That's an awfully true and therefore terrifying way of putting it. Zealots are horrifying, regardless of ideology.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 01:05 PM
2

Why would they have rock bottom SMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 12:06 PM
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It'd be interesting to see how the dating world in the US would change if we made prostitution legal. I wonder if more women would be outraged...or if more would just be open about expecting money and gifts in exchange for sex. Either way, the majority of men would still be paying unfortunately.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:56 AM
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Holy shit, those percentages... Are they even attempting to prevent it?
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:52 AM
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I can't change your view, because it's correct. There was a study done fairly recently, where every single aspect of various jobs were compared to the men vs women doing them. Same job, same position, same amount of hours worked, same education level, etc. When all factors are fully equal the "pay gap" goes down to about 2%, as in men make $1.00 and women make $0.98. Personally, I think this discrepancy could most likely be explained by the fact more men are willing to ask for raises or talk to …
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:48 AM
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It doesn't end. These women are insane.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:42 AM
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There's a big difference between the sexes ignoring each other and men justifiably wanting an equal partner who doesn't take their money, and spends some on him too.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:41 AM
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That's only true for women who lie and want to seem "virtuous" by not caring about looks. Believe me, if I'm walking around on the beach and I see a tight male ass or a nice bulge in his shorts and he doesn't have rolls of fat, I'm going to find him visually attractive.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:39 AM
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We're going to see cheaper and easier to purchase options as time goes on. You can buy a very good one for only $3k nowadays.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:36 AM
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This is very true. I work for a company that sells porn DVDs and a very wide variety of sex toys, including dolls. The ones we have aren't the Real Doll brand, but damn if they aren't close. For only $3,000 you can buy a 100 lb doll with amazingly lifelike features, and interchangeable wigs, assholes, and pussies. And "her" skin feels close to real as well, it's almost scary, like a person frozen in time lol.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:34 AM
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They're dolls... what exactly is the harm? How on earth do sex dolls "encourage rape"?
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:29 AM
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An expert evaluation committee had looked at the three candidates, and had concluded that Franzmayr, who at the time was already the head of one of the two sections being merged, was the best candidate for the job. However, the ministry still refused to accept the ruling and said they were obliged by equality laws to offer the post to a woman. That's not equality, that's inequality. Equality means picking the best candidate for the position regardless of gender, skin color, sexual orientation, e…
/r/MensRights21/03/18 11:27 AM
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Yeah...part of the reason I don't watch TV or have cable at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:58 AM
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I'm already there, WGTOW for life. Life is far too short to go any way but your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:56 AM
1

Nothing would make me be submissive, it's just not a part of my personality. I'm assuming you're a man, OP. What would it take to inspire submissiveness in you? To let your female partner lead, make major decisions, have more control over the relationship than you, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:51 AM
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I think it should be done automatically in the hospital, and both parents told the results ASAP. I wouldn't force a man to raise a kid that wasn't his unless he already knew it wasn't (like in cases of adoption, surrogacy, using other sperm if his don't work).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:46 AM
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So long as his N is under 10-15, then yes. I don't want to date a man with a large number of previous partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:43 AM
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Yes. One of my boyfriends is 5'11, I'm 5'8", and the other is 5'6".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:36 AM
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For men it's not rocket science: just be feminine, be attractive (slim, nice boobs, nice ass, tight clothes, beautiful long hair, nice face), have a nice feminine voice, and have feminine body language. We will want to have sex with you if you have these things. Hell, guys will want to fuck you if you don't have all these things either. I don't have long hair, feminine body language, or wear clothes that look like they're painted on, but managed to get two boyfriends. I do agree a healthy body a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:26 AM
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Bookworms are sexy, I think so. yoga pants still look good at 32 ffs unless you camp out at ihop. Ihop pancakes taste like ass compared to the ones I make at home, and their hash browns always have tiny pieces of bacon or sausage in them... which is gross when you're a vegetarian. 60 yrs old is the minimum age to chase kids off your lawn but you should really be teaching them how to throw a pocketknife blade first so it sticks, at that age. I'd have to learn it myself first! And correct me if I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:10 AM
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Nah, unless it's really terrible like it looks like a disease or something, it's not the acne. You seem to be an average height and weight, so probably not that either. Although I'm high T for a woman and it gives me acne too... what I use to control it are Stridex Essential wipes. They're cotton pads soaked in a 1% salicylic acid solution, comes in a white and blue cylinder, you can buy them at pharmacies or the grocery store. Just wipe down the problem areas after washing your face. Holy shit,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 10:05 AM
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Really, escorts? Are you in the US? Just wondering since we have rather archaic laws regarding sex workers here, so imo it's impressive that you've been with two.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 09:57 AM
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Are you autistic? I am, and if it made dating difficult for me then it's probably making it hard for you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 09:55 AM
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Never said there weren't. I acknowledge that my tastes for men with meat on their bones instead of defined musculature is in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 09:52 AM
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Are you saying my parents were actually better equipped to raise a child or not have me in the first place than they would be now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 09:51 AM
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No problem. I hope you find someone that matches what you want from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 09:49 AM
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Really? I'll have to research that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 09:47 AM
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Well, unfortunately those people are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 02:12 AM
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Nobody needs RP to see that, lol. It'd be obvious to a blind man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:47 AM
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Damn. When am I going to be able to yell at kids to stay off my lawn? It could be that as well. I've never been fat, but I encountered a similar attitude in high school when I "broke up" with the football player who asked me out after only 2 dates. Geez, but he was just so freaking dumb I felt like my IQ dropped in his presence...But he was pissed I didn't want to keep going out with him because I am was/am a tomboy nerd and apparently should have been grateful he even acknowledged my existence.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:46 AM
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I don't know any fat women, nor have I ever spoken to one about the kind of men they fuck and/or date, so I wouldn't be comfortable making that type of statement. However, I accept your anecdotal evidence as true based on your experiences. Out of curiosity, what height/weight are you and how did this match (or not) to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:39 AM
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Eh, I'm 32 so not what I'd consider "young" anymore. 😉 I honestly don't know what their goal is or why they do it. Maybe it comes from a place of entitlement, where they are pissed off that not all women are attractive for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:36 AM
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I don't know where the obsession part comes from. However, various people may see more obese or overweight women and men because of different areas people live in. So perhaps it's on their minds more often? I know in my area the fact I'm a size 6 makes me slimmer than the majority of other women I encounter daily, but I would probably be considered fat in places like France or Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:27 AM
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Some men do indeed like overweight women, just as some women like overweight men. But it seems safe to say that isn't the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 01:03 AM
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Easy targets. And no, I don't mean that as a joke. Being significantly overweight or obese is just literally a flaw that's out in the open and can't be hidden, so that makes it easier to target the woman. This differentiates it from other issues like women who are narcissistic, bitchy, manipulative, cold, cruel, gold-digging, misandric, passive aggressive, etc since you can't see a person's mental state. To be fair though, there aren't many people talking about how awesome it is for a man to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 12:40 AM
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Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 12:33 AM
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but anyone in any LTR or relationship that will not turn out to be a marriage is still being counted in the pool (as they should be, because they will return to it). Are you assuming they'll return to it simply because they don't get married? If so, does that mean your charts aren't taking into account the divorcees, aka people you've counted as "out of the dating pool due to marriage" that actually do return to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 12:32 AM
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Question: Are you assuming that the men and women who are unmarried are actually looking to get married as a life goal? Or are you including people who are in unmarried LTRs as still "available" for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 11:47 PM
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Yeah, a lot of us millennials are quite "boring" by the standards of our parents. My mother and father were both far more wild and rebellious in their teenage years (hell, they had me when mom was 19 and dad was 21, unmarried, fresh out of high school, no college prospects, and in a rock band... you can tell how long that relationship lasted) than I ever wanted to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 10:29 PM
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I'd like to know the answer to that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 10:24 PM
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I saw a bumper sticker that said Antimisandry.com and I know a guy on Facebook who's a MGTOW. I started researching it myself and here we are. Nothing really draws me into it, although as I am a tomboy, nerd, and on the autism spectrum I've successfully used some of the more self-improvement aspects of RP to grow as a human being. (Lifting, losing weight, gaining confidence, watching out for verbal manipulation, asking out men, etc). I don't actually need to use any of the "bad" parts like dread…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 06:47 PM
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As I'm currently in a polyandrous relationship with two men, yes I would legalize it. However, I'm of the opinion that marriage itself is too inherently misandric to take part in right now, so that would have to change first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 06:42 PM
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Ah. Yes, I agree that having kids is a disadvantage, both socially and biologically. Though obviously not evolutionarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 04:31 PM
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Yes, I agree. My argument was that some people don't want to put the necessary work in, and would be happy with a simulacurm of one with a bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 04:31 PM
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What is the "kids = fat minus" you mentioned? I've never heard of it before, and it doesn't make sense in a sentence as far as I can tell. Typically it was blamed on the woman's "humours" not being in sync, as far as I know. Some royalty almost certainly used other sires though... there's a theory that the Man in the Velvet Mask was a sire for the family. Yeah, but that would be a potential partner being repulsed by his STD as such. Well yes. But even in older times midwives understood that thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 12:07 PM
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Let me put it like this: Having a vanishingly low N (down to 0) tends to worse than a high one - I've seen more women dismiss a male virgin out of hand than a guy who was a player. In fact, most comments in that regard seemed to be along the lines of "if this part of his life is behind him, I don't see why it would matter". Of course with the added caveat that women aren't exactly transparent about their actual feelings on that (or any other) matter - if they're aware of them themselves. I've ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 12:01 PM
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This has already been overridden in the past, but don't think that the guy didn't care: He married that woman despite her already having someone else's kid because (a) she was beyond compare and thus her kid didn't make a difference or (b) the kid sufficiently lowered her RMV to a point that made her available to him. Yes, or he wants to be a father but his sperm don't work. Thus, it's much easier to marry a widow or divorced woman who has children already since adoption costs are through the ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 11:18 AM
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Not the person you were talking to, but all relationships and friendships are transactional. If they weren't, you wouldn't be in them. You give to your lovers and friends, and get the same back...things like sex for sex, comfort for comfort, fun for fun, companionship for companionship. Unless they're using you, in which case stop being their friend or lover. There's no problem with transactions so long as they are balanced in a way that both sides are happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 08:51 AM
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What kind of psychology are you reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 08:46 AM
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This. The concept of "shit tests" and belief that they are a daily, if not hourly trial for men in relationships has caused the death of honest communication for many people. A cigar really is just a cigar 99% of the time, unless you're with someone who honestly is manipulative. In which case, don't stay with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 08:45 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly. There's also the fact that successful relationships, even ones where you truly love each other and are best friends, take some degree of work and compromise to become LTRs. For what looks like an increasing number of people, they prefer to not put the time and energy into this and so use toys and/or porn to satisfy themselves instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 08:32 AM
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While I think that you're on to something here, I'd like to point out that the whole "women have more options in college" probably only applies to women who are a part of the subculture you mention. If you don't care about frat parties, sports, gym culture, co-op parties (what is that?), concerts, etc then you won't have any experience with these kinds of men other than knowing them from class or passing them on campus sidewalks. Yeah the options exist but a quiet, awkward, introverted bookworm …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 08:26 AM
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I don't agree with the red pill about the "wamen are inferior" thing because I think it's dumb and that there's more to be looked on that. Well that's mighty kind of you, McCree. 😉 However, I became convinced that women just want money and attention while men just want sex, and to me this is really making me hate society as a whole, because to me this is shallow as fuck, for both sexes. But you know this isn't true already from the statements of some of the women here and your own comments in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 07:59 AM
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Meh, she's a bit too New Age for my taste. What part do you think is hype vs truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 07:17 AM
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Lol. That really depends on your partners. The best sex advice is to have open and honest communication about what you each enjoy. As for resources, I look up author Ian Kerner, PhD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 07:15 AM
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You're only thinking of the external clit. A clitoris that is doubled in size would be 8-10 inches long and about 6 inches wide. Thankfully this doesn't happen, as I doubt that could safely fit in a pelvic area without pressing against other organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:58 AM
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The average clitoris is about 4-5 inches long and 2-3 inches wide. The majority of it is internal though, so the tiny bit that is external is all people typically think of. However, when a woman has a good, strong orgasm it can feel like your entire inner pelvis is contracting and experiencing pleasure. It's also worth noting that the "g-spot" is actually not a separate small organ or bundle of nerves, it's just the back of the clit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:55 AM
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True. Sad too, because an increase in self-reflection would lead to one actually bettering themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:49 AM
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You should make an edit and go into why the clitoris is such an interesting and central physical feature as well. For science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 12:06 AM
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As she says in the vid, "I can feel it in my uterus." Holy shit, I fucking hope not. 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 12:05 AM
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The penis is also hidden until sex, so there's also some other psychological fact about having a huge penis in that it's a surprise because the woman doesn't necessarily know about till you reveal it; the penis is a hidden feature, so there's a game in which she has to pretend to not care about size but then IF you reveal it to be huge she will be wildly visibly impressed; she has to mask her hopes in case it's not huge, but if it is huge then the mask comes off and it's clear that she's deeply …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:52 PM
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What's wrong with age "fetish"? (even though I disagree with this descriptions, let's say it is a fetish) True, I should have said kink instead of fetish. And I never said there was anything wrong with it. My partners and I have quite a few kinks though, and rarely are they viewed favorably so I don't think it's a stretch to say the majority of people would take issue. Two adults do whatever they want, just like homosexuals do whatever they want with their dicks and anuses Or pussies! Don't leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:45 PM
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It does. And for the record, I don't think it's a crime or even bad to say you find someone who is 16 or 17 attractive, because some boys and girls do look older than they really are. It's just that you have to be careful in the dating world because the law considers it statutory rape even if it's consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:40 PM
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Eh, I guess I just think people don't have anything to hide behind the anonymity of the internet. I'm very honest online as opposed to with my mother and siblings for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:38 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:36 PM
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Interesting. Do you really not care about learning why these men and women love each other in different ways, or do you just think they wouldn't necessarily be honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:31 PM
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That is a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:29 PM
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I'm not misunderstanding it, that's why I specified that EWALT is a better acronym to use and that men should always be very careful to not pick one of those types of women. It is possible to find women who won't lose attraction for you in these scenarios, but it is certainly not easy. Kind of like how you just wrote "Every woman is hypergamous because that’s how they’re biologically programmed". Given the fact you obviously don't believe the literal definition of AWALT, I'm unsure if you actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:28 PM
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so, you agree that treating her like a full and equal partner in all things is not conducive to a good outcome for you, the male partner? What reason would a woman (unless she's tradcon/RPW who prefers her man to be the leader) have to respect or stay with her male partner if he doesn't treat her like an equal in all things? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:17 PM
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OP, is it that you're being shamed for saying "I am most sexually attracted to young women" or are you shamed for saying "I am most attracted to 18-19 year old women". The first sentence is something that the majority of people would understand. The second one makes it sound like you have an age fetish, which would not be viewed so well by the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:10 PM
1

Are you asking why Purple Pillers give combination advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:03 PM
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And that's one of the things I disagree with RP about, why I'm Purple instead of Red. I absolutely agree that some of the advice they give (don't be a doormat, have self-esteem, project confidence, don't put up with people who disrespect you) is good for every man. Heck, I think most of it is good for women too. But there's some parts that wouldn't help certain men (possibly a small amount) in their relationships, like the RP hypothesis that "all" women are hypergamous or that "all" women will l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:02 PM
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I was mostly referring to conversations I'd had in real life, or on blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 08:53 PM
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That's fair. I could see how being soft Red would be a better definition. I was going with the "in between" because I personally have little use for RP in my life but understand and appreciate that it has helped many men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 07:02 PM
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Good point. I'm a Purple because while the BP ideology works in my own relationships, it's pretty darn obvious that it doesn't work for many others. Thus I typically use egalitarian/BP ways of doing things, but will give RP advice to other men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 06:59 PM
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I was when I showered this morning. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 06:57 PM
1

Sounds like a good theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 06:56 PM
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BP gives advice targeted towards those who are already at least slightly successful in the dating world. RP gives advice targeted towards those who are not successful, or who have met too many bitches and become disenfranchised with the SMP. Purples usually give advice that is a combination of the two, like RP but phrased in more palatable ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 02:03 PM
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That's a good analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:38 PM
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Yeah, it's rather disingenuous when they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:36 PM
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So RP ideology appeals most to men who are unhappy with the women in their lives? I thought some of it was neutral/could just be considered self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 11:03 AM
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If a guy doesn't experience that, does he just remain BP? Or are there instances where a man has had a good life with women who care about him but he turns RP anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:38 AM
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Unfortunately, it seems we'll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:32 AM
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True, it seems to work best with men who have a more passive personality, who are shy, nerdy, quiet, or "beta" as we'd say here. If you're the type of woman who likes "alphas" instead, it may not give you as positive results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:31 AM
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Yes that's how things typically go. But if waiting isn't working or producing the results you're looking for, it's better to get up and do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:25 AM
1

Very true, some men don't think women should be asking men out. Some even think a joke is being played on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:23 AM
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Yeah, exactly! Takes all the guesswork out of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 02:20 AM
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Even if women are "shitty at using flirting/body language," that's still indirect communication and some guys are oblivious to indirect cues at certain times, unless they're always "on the prowl." I see your point, but I was referring to the fact that some of us... knowing we are bad at flirting, nonverbal communication, and other social cues... decide to just forget all that and just go for directly asking a guy out. I mean, why waste time using a form of attraction you know you suck at when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:15 AM
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That's kind of you. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 12:11 AM
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Lol. Sterilization doesn't work that way. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:25 PM
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Glad we're on the same page then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:12 PM
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I'm very attracted to both of them, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:02 PM
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I will agree that this is true of the majority. However, some of us know what we're attracted to and will do the asking out ourselves, especially if we're shitty at using flirting/body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:42 PM
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Unfortunately you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:41 PM
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Yeah, some of us do. I prefer approaching actually, gives me more control over the situation and is easier to start conversations than to be dragged into them unprepared. I asked out both of the men I'm with now, and it worked out quite well. Interesting that I get downvoted for being active in dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:41 PM
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I've volunteered at my local soup kitchen and SPCA for the last 5 years. I give money to The Parsemus Foundation since they're working on a male birth control pill, and to an organization in my area that helps rehabilitate children who've been abused or trafficked. I'm kind and polite to everyone I meet, and some may think it's juvenile but I try my best to do one good deed a day. I'm not rich and I don't have social influence, but I do what I can to improve lives with the few resources at my di…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:38 PM
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This is a good way of putting it. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:11 PM
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If the wrong kind of men are always approaching you, take matters into your own hands and approach the men you're attracted to. Not a difficult thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:10 PM
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Sounds like you are a fence sitter like me. Welcome to the glorious world of online debate where neither side agrees with you and both think you're wrong. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:06 PM
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Something is driving nice liberal girls I'm not a liberal girl, I'm a Libertarian woman. towards individualism That's just a result of living in the Western world where individualism is revered over conformity. and the whole cluster of childfree sjw tumblr asexual -insanity. I don't have a Tumblr, I'm anti-SJW, and most definitely not asexual. I do greatly enjoy being childfree though. I'm the oldest of 7 kids, and our parents worked or were out with friends more often than not. I already did my…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:04 PM
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I agree. That's part of the reason why I'm egalitarian, not a Feminist. Although by now it has been worked into the ideologies of both Feminism and Red Pill, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 09:49 PM
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I already have found my answers, and am already going my own way in life. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 08:52 PM
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Things like altruism are inherent to human beings too, not just our capacity to selfishly persue what is pleasurable or desirable at all times in a clearly hedonistic manner. The Red Pill attitude that "we're all going down anyway, so lets just fuck bitches and spin plates" is the essence of Nihilism. I'm definitely not a Red Pill woman (I'm purple pill) and I don't read pro-RP subs often, but for what it's worth I only see some men with that attitude. A lot of them do suffer from an AWALT compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 08:09 PM
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I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:53 PM
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Toxic masculinity: Man-cards What is a "man-card"? I've heard of calling virginity a v-card, is it similar slang? calling someone a faggot because he cries, calling someone a woman because he can't tell the difference between a clip and a mag, etc This isn't necessarily reflective of masculinity as a whole though. There's nothing inherently "masculine" about being an asshole. Both sexes are quite adept at such behaviors. Women have a much less restrictive/fragile gender role. They can wear pants…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:52 PM
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Neither am I. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he responds to either of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:32 PM
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Nihilism: the philosophical viewpoint that suggests the denial or lack of belief towards the reputedly meaningful aspects of life. This doesn't describe me, nor most other men and women who've decided that going their own way in life is the path for them. I absolutely think that life has meaning to it, just that procreative obligations are not a part of it. Instead, I live a life that increases the amount of happiness, health, and contentment of myself and those I love, followed by helping and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:30 PM
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It's not a man's job, duty, or responsibility to get married and procreate any more than it is mine. Some men and women want to do those things and I am happy for them when it works out for the entire family. However, some of us have never wanted that. Do you really think that shaming men and women like us into being spouses and parents when we've made it quite clear it's not what we want out of life will actually be beneficial to society? Wouldn't you rather have happily married people who actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 06:46 PM
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Female, purple pill. I have never done or had done to me any of the above red flags in my romantic relationships. One of my partners was sexually assaulted by a man he was dating, but that's as close as it gets and I honestly don't see how that part of his history could be considered a "red flag". Being a victim of assault doesn't have anything to do with him, just his attacker. I don't know why having an abortion is on that list either? It's not what I'd consider a red flag if I were into women…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:48 PM
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So then can you give me some examples specifically of toxic masculinity and toxic femininity? Whenever I have had a Feminist discuss this topic with me, two things happen. First, I'm told there is no such thing as toxic femininity because the Patriarchy doesn't affect women that way. Second, I'm told that "toxic masculinity" refers to men who are dominant in their relationships, don't enjoy spending time with children, have mostly/all male friends, are assertive, emotionally stoic, and believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:38 PM
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Lol. Yeah, didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:19 PM
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Right? I have never thought of my relationships like this. It's more of a "I really like my men, what can I do to help them relax and have fun" not "how do I get the best deal out of our arrangement". Of course, it's very easy to want to make your partners happy when they do it for you in return. I suppose if I was stuck in a shitty relationship where I was being used or taken for granted I'd actually need to consider how to improve my situation by increasing my leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:07 PM
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That is pretty cool, but probably wouldn't work for me. I've never wrestled in my life, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:02 PM
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That... actually makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:00 PM
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You're putting a lot of faith in your punching power. Not really. I'm taller and stronger than the majority of women I know, but understand I wouldn't win against an average male. Doesn't mean I'm going to just let myself get hit without fighting back. Personally I'd rather just shoot a takedown and sit on their chest until they calm the fuck down. "Shoot a takedown"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:44 PM
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Why do you think that is? Is it less competitive in the UMC areas compared to your past? Also, this is slightly off topic but what do you think the distinction between working class and middle class is? It's not well defined by American standards, and as far as I can tell most economists typically divide people into those who have degrees vs don't have degrees, not so much based on income... which doesn't quite make sense imo. Like how I have a bachelors degree in business and psychology and am …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:42 PM
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True. Wish they'd do away with the affirmative action part though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:31 PM
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First, where does this obligation you speak of come from? You'd need to prove it exists in the first place. Secondly, what is so special about me that more of "my kind" are needed? I don't even know what "my kind" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:30 PM
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Secretarial work, hairdressing, human resources, social work. Check this list Thanks, I'll look at it over breakfast. Feminists typically don't think that anyone should be just hitting back. This is why this seems disingenuous to me. Either restrain her, or leave the situation. Wanting to hit her just seems like a revenge fantasy. Really? I guess that's another reason why I'm not a Feminist. Yeah, if someone...man or woman... tries to start a physical fight with me, I'm going to try and either j…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:16 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:06 PM
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Oh, I'm sure. It's just odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:06 PM
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Are you really sure that you haven't seen anything about the above ever? That seems really alien to me, honestly. I mean, if you haven't, you haven't, but that doesn't jive with my experiences at all. Not never, but it's very rare. You know that feminism typically doesn't want anyone to hit anyone else, right? Unless we're talking about the "kill all menz" branch of the philosophy, nobody's going to care about a dude physically restraining a woman who is attacking him. Getting into a fistfight w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:33 PM
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they state that preference is given to male applicants to support equality. Is it ok that they state that? I'd have thought that openly stating hiring preferences would be flirting with the concept of equal opportunity, and someone may have a problem with it. I guess it depends on how it's worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:17 PM
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Okay, but we weren't talking about jobs, we were talking about gender roles. I was honestly thinking more around the lines of how men shouldn't be expected to pay for dates, they should be able to be SAHDs if their partner can afford it, they shouldn't be expected to put themselves in harm's way to protect a random woman, or be chastised for hitting a woman back if she starts a physical altercation. But if you want to talk about jobs, we can. A lot of men don't take "feminine" jobs because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:14 PM
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My point exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:05 PM
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Is it? Usually when I hear/read Feminists talking about toxic masculinity it's in regards to the "bad parts" of being men. I've not heard it used to say "men and boys should be free to take or discard whatever gender roles they want".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:05 PM
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The reason that feminism has historically struggled to open non-traditional roles to men... Do you have examples of them trying in the first place? Almost every single Feminist I've ever spoken to, either online or IRL when I went to a hyper-liberal college, has said that it's not Feminism's job to fight for men because men aren't oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:26 AM
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He's not, his parents are. The argument is that by not allowing Jewish parents to cut their infant son's penis, you're denying them an important part of their religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:21 AM
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It could be due to being upper class growing up and middle-class on my own, or it could be that I'm autistic and social interactions are confusing regardless, but it's not my experience that you have to be a bitch when you're good looking. Outside of high school and college, people are generally nice to you if you're nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:19 AM
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Eh, sorry if this sounds like nitpicking, but it's more like an example of Egalitarianism in action. While historically Feminism has worked towards making non-traditional roles open to women, it hasn't done the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:11 AM
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Honestly, I think that's the only thing government should be used for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:59 AM
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That's why I haven't seen it, I stay away from those. Btw, nice to see another Libertarian around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:58 AM
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I'm guessing it's because I was caring about my weight/health and actually doing something about it, whereas she was not so it "made her look bad". She also mate-guarded like a freaking lioness whenever her husband dropped off lunch for her, it's like she thought the other woman in the office and I were making eyes at him when we didn't find him attractive at all. She's just a very insecure person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:56 AM
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Yeah, I'd never use online likes or swipes as an indicator of attractiveness. Too many studies have shown men just swipe right on every picture to obtain more/quicker matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:51 AM
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Precisely this. It's not wrong for men or women to have traditional preferences, just like it's not wrong for them to have non-traditional ones. I only see people arguing against this in cases of hypocrisy, like if a man says his N doesn't matter but hers does or if a woman wants to marry a tradcon man because she likes being provided for yet shucks off traditional female gender roles as "oppressive".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:49 AM
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All three of those are indeed gender disparities, but they are also all due to socialization. Other than being raised with a particular set of expectations and never really questioning them, there's no reason why women can't ask men out, can get just as much validation from positive traits other than looks, and not crave attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:43 AM
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What is this about "leverage"? Is this truly how you see male/female relationships, as men using marriage as a bargaining chip like how some women use sex? That's rather depressing imo. Listen, I was also raised to believe I had to get married, that my worth was inherently chained to my ability to find a husband who would knock me up and provide for me and the resulting offspring. But you know what? I grew up, eventually went to a public school, and got introduced to new people and new ideas. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 10:37 AM
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Ha! I suppose it could be that they are, but it would be strange for both to be since they aren't the same in height, weight, diet, or even use the same shampoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:22 AM
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Can you give a link to one of those studies please? I can't find one that studied male N and divorce and/or cheating rates, only female N.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:19 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean to make you feel that way. I'm beginning to think my family's noses are just freakishly strong now. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:14 AM
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Oh. Then... I hope it stays the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:12 AM
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So true. What's odd is that both of my partners are circumcised and they are happy about it. They say foreskins look weird and are glad their own dicks "are normal". I can't say I'd think the same way if someone cut off my clit hood as a baby. I'd likely be pissed off and feel betrayed by my lack of bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:09 AM
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Lol, that is a possibility. Women in general have a better sense of smell than men, just like how we're better at hearing high sounds and differentiating colors. But that doesn't mean AWALT. 😉 Or it's possible that the females in my family just have amazing senses of smell. If you have a male SO, you've never walked past him after he's been outside sweating and his scent has made you want to rip his clothes off?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:04 AM
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Well, I hope your relationship continues to flourish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 01:00 AM
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I think most women do. It's hard not to notice, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:59 AM
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The strange thing is, it has no cultural or religious significance for her. She's a Christian and second generation Mexican, which is a subculture of the US with less circumcisions than blacks or whites. Honestly, I think she just doesn't like the look, since when we sell porn she always gets grossed out if one of the actors on the cover has an uncut penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 12:58 AM
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Yup. I don't believe we're living in a patriarchal society today unlike some Feminists who do. There'd be a lot more harems and young men getting sent to war if we were.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 10:00 PM
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True, a man can be tricked into raising a child that isn't his, so that would account for the aversion most men experience towards high N women. Of course, in modern civilization this is sometimes consciously overridden, like when a man marries a woman who already has a kid/s, or when they decide to adopt as a couple due to a lack of fertility on his part. Likewise, I postulate that some women like myself have a built in aversion to high N men because it is an indicator of potential disease (as …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 09:09 PM
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Yes. That's another unique opinion of yours. Nice to see at least one Red Piller who doesn't think a high N is inherently attractive in men. If I use the bar at closing time example... This is the best explanation I've ever read. Most of the time, there's no distinction made between +100 or +10 men/women, it's usually reduced down to nothing more than high N male = valuable stud, high N woman = worthless slut. Not always in those exact words, but definitely the gist of it. As though a woman with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 08:26 PM
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I wasn't talking about online though, just being approached in person. Is that not a good metric either?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 07:49 PM
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I was talking to a female co-worker this week about circumcision, and how I think it's unethical that we still allow it to be done to infant males in the US, and in some cases doctors even pressure new parents into doing it. If it were up to me, it would be made illegal just like female circumcision is (other than cases of medical necessity or making the choice yourself as an adult, obviously). She was against making it illegal because it is "blatantly anti-Semitic", and that the government shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 06:46 PM
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Yes, we exist. While I can appreciate female beauty, and even think female genitals are quite pretty a lot of the time, I've never thought of being with another woman sexually. I'm a dick-and-balls-only kind of woman, lol. I think some of this has to do with pheromones. Males and females both have scents when they sweat, and I like my own scent just fine. But other female smell doesn't do anything for me, whereas a lot of men I've walked by during the summer smell quite arousing indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 06:30 PM
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If you believe in the patriarchy...😅
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 06:26 PM
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Hmmm. Different explanation than what I'm used to, but that's rather refreshing. Question though; you're at least willing to admit that a high N is probably going to be seen as a negative (we'll use -10 like in your example) but that he's alright with disclosing this -10 because it's "being balanced against +100 positives they have elsewhere". Yet you also say of women that "many of them are in this situation of having this -10 negative despite only having a +10 positive ". What are these other …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 06:04 PM
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I don't know if it still happens on Reddit, but it does to an extent IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 05:48 PM
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Yeah, it just always struck me as odd, especially when I grew up and learned our uniforms are considered sexy and even feature in some lingerie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 05:46 PM
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Lol. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 05:44 PM
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I've seen that, and I've seen the same with men. The majority of high N men I know, either through work or as acquaintances, have issues with finding stable girlfriends, have baby mommas, are divorced, are constantly involved in some relationship drama, or have cheated on their girlfriends. I think it's safe to say that for some men and women, if you get used to the multiple sex partner lifestyle you won't be able to leave it behind. Something or someone in your past will likely pop up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:11 PM
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But you could pose the same question to men. Particularly promiscuous RP men. "Why does her history matter to you, but you expect her to look past your history". The difference here is we actually have an answer to that question. What is the answer? The only thing I've seen is RP trying to make it out as though the woman would be "lucky" to have a man with a high N, and they usually throw some concept of "preselection" in there for good measure. But that's kind of like saying look at this bridge…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 04:05 PM
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Many women tell their SO about being hit on specifically to try and make him jealous, instead of just relaying a funny story of something that happened to them that day?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 03:53 PM
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Huh. Yeah, that is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 03:23 PM
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I know this is an older thread, but found it to be an interesting topic. Are our perceptions of the female orgasm skewed? I've never understood why there's this idea that a woman's orgasm is this magical, mystical, difficult to achieve monumental occasion where you need to push her buttons in just the right manner and the stars need to align just right. This is not my experience at all, being the owner of a clit and pussy. I typically masturbate twice a day just to keep my sex drive from becomin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:30 PM
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I know this is an older thread, but thought it seemed an interesting topic. I'm obviously a female but have significantly higher T than most. Honestly, yes, the thirst for sex is real and horniness is an unrelenting force in the back of my mind every day, for the majority of the time. Thought it would have lessened by now since I'm in my early 30s, but it's just as strong as when I was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:15 PM
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What does a lack of jealousy look like? Do you mean she openly flirts with other men but you stay stoic or something? I'm having difficulty figuring out what the point would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:56 PM
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Q4Women: If such extreme cases prove that past indeed matters then why do so women falsely have this delusion or an idea that "woman's sexual past shouldn't matter" I don't know, double standards suck ass. I believe my partners N matters and that mine matters (though definitely not because it's "the only thing of value" I have... that's just stupid), because you can tell a lot about a person's view of sex by their N. (In general, obviously.) Have they slept with 35 people by the time they're 30?…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:49 PM
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😁
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:37 PM
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Exactly. It makes you an egalitarian. Some feminists are also egalitarian, but no egalitarian I've ever met (self included) has identified as a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:55 AM
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I'm not "hot" (I think you have to wear revealing clothing and makeup and heels for that...?), but I am attractive judging by how often I get asked out so I guess I'll answer. I've always been told I was, even as a child. And looking at my childhood pictures, I definitely was the definition of "cherubic"; heart shaped face, bright blue eyes, slightly curled platinum blonde hair, very photogenic. Being raised in a highly tradcon household, I was told that physical beauty is one of the greatest as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:43 AM
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Unfortunately it's not something I know much more about, other than what I said above. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:06 AM
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It's okay! Thank you for explaining. I also get frustrated by neutral comments of mine that are downvoted seemingly without reason. For example, I made a pretty neutral comment a few days ago supporting the idea that nobody needs to conform to gender roles and within a few minutes it was at -3. Idk if it still is, but it was confusing as fuck. Like really? That's worth downvoting but not giving a response to? The thing I always try to remember about up/downvotes is that there's a ton of people h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 11:05 AM
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I'm not feigning being autistic, I am autistic. I thought your comment might be a joke, but then you claimed I was being passive aggressive, that I was talking to you as though you were a kindergartener, and that I was trying to make myself out to be an absolute authority. I had (and honestly still don't) no idea where this abrupt turn came from, so thought it may be due to offending your religious beliefs which usually makes people super defensive. Since you've explained that it wasn't, can you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 10:56 AM
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I know. I was just having a bit of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 10:47 AM
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Yeah, you would think. Idk, it could just be that the job itself is still looked down on a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 10:45 AM
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Nah dude. Sex is much more pleasurable than commitment. 😉 10/10, would choose great sex over commitment every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:09 AM
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I don't believe in having double standards, so yeah. It's unethical no matter the gender of the person doing it. And no, two wrongs never make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:08 AM
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I would agree. I've known women who worked for "escort services" and apparently they are more like contractors who can make their own rates, only pay back 15% of what they make, and the company keeps tabs on the clients history. They even have to check in afterwards to ensure everything went smoothly. Sounds so much better than being stuck with some pimp, working the streets and not knowing if the john is going to fuck you or kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:06 AM
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Why wouldn't it make sense? I have two partners and my N is 2, because I've only been with them. My older man is 40 and has an N of less than 9, and my younger one has an N of 2 also, since his second was me. Just because someone is in a poly arrangement doesn't mean we're swingers or sluts or fuck a bunch of other people we aren't in a relationship with. Is that what you thought? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 02:01 AM
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Y'know, I didn't even think of this possibility. Here in 'Murica prostitution is illegal in 99% of the country... even though it would probably reduce the amount of sex trafficking and actually give people a steady source of income. 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:57 AM
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Why? I thought our conversation was going pretty well until your last two comments calling me a passive aggressive downvoter... Seriously, if I made you upset by saying there's no heaven or hell, I apologize. It probably came off as flippant when it's really just what I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:54 AM
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What on earth are you talking about? You know that you are on a debate sub, and people usually have minor disagreements on the topics here. I am certainly not an absolute authority on women, just like you're not an absolute authority on men. But in general I think that what I said is true...women don't think about "respect" when they're getting in a guy's pants. I can honestly say that when I'm with my partners I'm basically just thinking about their dicks + what positions we should do. That's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:52 AM
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What? Dude, I have no reason to downvote anything you said. In fact, I upvoted your last comment to me because I thought it was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:43 AM
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That...is not what we feel when we want to fuck. 😅 Eh, neither heaven nor hell exist. So you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 11:43 PM
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Damn. He must have eaten all his vegetables as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 11:42 PM
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Apparently? I don't know anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 11:41 PM
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Okay? Did I offend you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:14 PM
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Porn? If so, then yes. I actually work at a sex toy shop, and sometimes take home titles to review and enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:11 PM
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And what is masculinity in your opinion? I'm honestly not sure what it is, other than the opposite of femininity. I'm not a feminine woman myself, and am on the autism spectrum, so am usually at a loss when trying to interact with feminine people. Masculinity is much easier to understand, and so is attractive for both love and friendship. Edit: Ah, okay. I am familiar with this post. My DL is about a 6, my older male partner is around a 6 as well, and our younger male partner is probably a 3-4.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:05 PM
1

He's 37 though, and if was was sexually active for ~22 years (since 15 years of age) .. that's like 3-4 women / year. Waaaaay too many partners for my taste, but you have a point. It just sounds like a number he came up with to impress his friend and the interviewer though. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:02 PM
1

Well, I do support men's rights groups, so that's probably why. What would be your way of phrasing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:57 PM
9

Absolutely. There was a woman at my old job who was both short and more than a little hefty (5'4" and over 250 lbs). When we worked together I was a size 8 (5'8" and 165 lbs)...so already much slimmer than her, but wasn't happy with how I looked. I began cutting my meal portions and using half my lunch break to jog around the building. Within 5 weeks I was down to 145 and felt much healthier, and my partners thought I looked better too! Holy shit though. You would have believed I drowned a baske…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:54 PM
0

Maybe it's not. I don't know exactly what you are thinking of, so perhaps it actually is asking for a lot. What do you mean by it? When I read it, my immediate assumption was "a woman who takes responsibility for her decisions/their consequences, and treats men like equals instead of being misandric or entitled".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:42 PM
1

For what it's worth, I read your entire post and agree with it 100%. Sex isn't about "power" over men, it's about pleasure and hopefully love between the two of us. I loathe that concept of "women are gatekeepers of sex" precisely for the reasons you mentioned above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:38 PM
0

That's it? No offense intended, and I'm not being sarcastic or snarky. I'm really just surprised that your bar is set so low for a woman to be a NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:28 PM
2

So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:27 PM
2

I have this with my partners, and frankly I didn't think it was anything more than an adult fairytale until it happened. As an atheist, this is the only time I might be able to get away with saying I "feel blessed" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:26 PM
1

I don't think that's the entire truth, but wouldn't doubt that it's a part of history. Especially here in the US where our government has lied to us many a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:23 PM
1

Exactly. It's like a status symbol to some people, instead of a commitment based on love, desire, and close friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:16 PM
3

Do you really think so? If that's true, then I and many other women of PPD are "unicorns". On the other hand, I believe many women (and men, to be fair) are typically more introspective and capable of planning ahead than that. What we are actually discussing are the loud, bitter, entitled ones who write articles about "where are the good men".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:14 PM
2

My last point is that women are only sexually attracted to men they respect, and mostly only respect men they are sexually attracted to. I don't know what definition of respect you're using, so can't really argue that. Respect imo is never freely given, it must be earned by an individual man or woman based purely on their actions. Platonic friendship from women is worth about as much to men as purely sexual objectification from men is worth to women. Women can be friends with my dick. Your perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:10 PM
1

Honestly, that might make more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:07 PM
2

Huh. I'm going to ask my friends if I look odd. Of course, knowing them they'll definitely say yes, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 08:07 PM
4

You can recognize a man or woman as a sexual being while not being attracted (or available) to that part of them. After all, there's also the parts of you that are mental, emotional, and physical. All of them should be recognized. Some women don't have girl friends. I have no experience with what your last point is. I have a lot of male friends I'm not attracted to but they most certainly are full people I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 02:03 PM
3

I agree, but if the asymmetric portion of the relationship goes away, then it could be rebuilt into something real instead of a farce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 12:23 PM
5

If she's willing to do anything to keep him around, then I'd assume she'd also be friendly/do friend stuff for him in turn like buy him dinner or watch his pets when he's on vacation. In which case, it would become a real friendship even if it didn't start out as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 12:14 PM
5

Eh, I neither respect it or disrespect it. Knowing someone is a SAHD or a househusband is a neutral piece of information. If I was the marrying/cohabitating type and made enough to support two people I wouldn't mind if one of my partners wanted to stay home to cook, clean, expand my vegetable garden, and focus on getting a new degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:29 AM
6

I thought the working field is a terrible place where you're nothing but a wage slaves and women were stupid to want to not be safe and sound in the comfort of their home taking care of the kids and house? Note that I'm not saying this is your opinion, it's just one that's oft-repeated in manosphere circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:21 AM
10

Imagine we flip this sentiment around to guys that are being friend zoned or used for money, free gifts, attention, free trips and just general favors. This is why it's incredibly easy to determine if a woman is your actual friend or if she's friendzoning you. True friendship isn't a one-way street where one person gets lots of benefits and the other is left high and dry, it's hanging out because you like doing stuff together and both of you do favors for one another. If you're constantly buying…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:09 AM
3

I believe him more than I believe the other guy who said he's slept with 80-90. I think both have probably increased their N for the interview, but Ben is more believable based on what many other women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:54 AM
3

Yeah, makes it difficult to have a real discussion about this as anything but a hypothetical. While there definitely are women online who apparently never dated from the time they left college until they "suddenly" turned 35 and now need to rush to find a good man to marry them and have kids... it's really not as common as TRP or Cosmo make it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:49 AM
1

One way to tell a gamer who happens to be female from a "girl gamer" is to ask them about this topic. 99% of the time, we will say we're pissed about the influx of attention whores too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:45 AM
1

You mean like how they don't have rosy cheeks, very noticable eyelashes, colorful lips, or unnaturally colored eyelids?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 09:41 AM
2

Do you really assume that women you see in the general public are doing all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:18 AM
1

That may be statistically correct. I'm on the spectrum myself, although what I have is called PDD or "atypical" autism. I've been told by my lovers as well as other men it can be much less challenging to date females like us than "normal" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:16 AM
1

Seems like they're a bunch of busybodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:35 PM
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Neither. It depends on whether the woman herself becomes dissatisfied with her previous decisions, not anyone else. Edit: Also, why is it assumed that the career woman is a lonely old maid sitting at home by herself? Would you assume a "career man" doesn't date, or have a steady sex partner, or spends their free time with a significant other, or reaches age 35 wondering why he isn't married yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:33 PM
3

Too much emphasis on the status of being married instead of the actual health of the relationship. Almost no birth control opinions for men, other than vasectomy or condoms. Virginity. Whether you still have it, or you shared it already, or you're not sure what counts, or you're told you're "too old" to ever be rid of it... people are way too judgemental about this one particular aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:31 PM
2

They don't approve of women having casual sex because of the potential for getting "feelings" after 1 round of probably uninspired sex? Or they don't approve because they hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:26 PM
2

No. Men and women have to be responsible for themselves and their emotions. If they know doing X will make them feel negative emotions if it doesn't work out, then they should be mature enough to not do X. Edit: Besides, there's the other 30% of women who don't have this problem and aren't emotionally "damaged" by casual sex. Maybe they can teach others about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:42 PM
2

Then that's their own fault for not being honest with themselves and you regarding their reasons for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 09:03 PM
2

What? How did you reach that conclusion? Of course there's ways to have casual sex without hurting a woman's feelings. Just have casual sex with a woman who doesn't think in terms of being "used" and just wants to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:51 PM
1

I'm a woman. I think everyone has a responsibility to understand their body and what gives it the most pleasure, and then communicate this clearly and accurately to your partner. It is then the partner's responsibility to use said information to the best of their ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:42 PM
3

Q4All: What alternative do men have today? Dating sims, masturbation toys, sex dolls, porn, etc if all they are looking for are ways to bust a nut. Q4All: Why do women often feel "used" by sex? I don't know. If you and a guy are both in agreement about having sex at that time, it would seem there's no way to be "used". Q4Women: Are you threatened by men seeking causal sex? No, men and women are free to do whatever they want so long as it's consensual. I have never had casual sex and it doesn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:40 PM
2

I'd like start this off by saying that there's way more hot women than hot men. Are there actually though? Or is it the combined fact that society generally doesn't hold male "beauty" in high regard and women have the ability to give themselves an additional 1-2 SMV points by using makeup if they choose to? I'm thinking of how one of my younger sisters has a worse face than me (a 7) in reality due to acne marks, discoloration under her eyes, the fact she smokes and drinks almost every day, and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:34 PM
1

Eh, agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:20 PM
1

Kinda sad, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 06:39 PM
2

Only when I absolutely have to. 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 06:36 PM
1

Yes, of course. But they do this even when there are no children and no chance of reproduction either, in which case it becomes more of a bonding mechanism between adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:08 AM
2

Not everyone is into bondage, I can respect that. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:05 AM
1

Thanks for providing the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:04 AM
5

We must live in very different subcultures then. I'm in a very Republican and Christian/Jewish area of the US. I've never once been told my unmarried and childfree status is a good thing, by either family, co-workers, teachers, or strangers. The only ones who are understanding about it are my (male) friends, but even they don't outright support it...they think it's a little sad. In fact, my mother cried when I told her I got sterilized and I've been told by customers or strangers who strike up c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:03 AM
1

I don't think so, but yeah in the scenario above that might be the case. Kind of like how a guy really wants to sleep with the woman who's a 9 but she rejected him, so he sleeps with the 7 who responded positively to his advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:56 AM
2

If it's a big deal to that particular male, I'm certainly not going to invalidate his feelings about it. But I meant I wouldn't care if he didn't and would understand that sex is just not easy to come by for some people. I was a virgin til I was almost 25... it'd be very hypocritical if I judged anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:52 AM
3

I meant that I wouldn't disqualify a man as a LTR just because he's a virgin, unless it was for religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:49 AM
3

If her N actually was that high, or even if it was 1/6 of that, yeah. She may have been using sex for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:47 AM
1

True!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 10:46 AM
1

Well that would be the poster child for hypocrisy, wouldn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:30 AM
12

Well that would be the poster child for hypocrisy, wouldn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:30 AM
4

Both men and women are told we are selfish, irresponsible, childish, "peter pans", immature, or stupid for not getting married and/or having children. At the same time, none of us have to get hitched when we don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:18 AM
6

Virginity isn't a big deal unless you make it one. For one of my lovers, I was his second sex partner but his first female one so it was very much like he was a virgin. It wasn't off-putting at all because we used clear, open communication about what we knew we liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:13 AM
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Meh, it's really more the underlying attitude towards sex. I have a low N because I think sex is something to share with a person you really love, not just something to do on a Friday night with some person you met an hour ago or went on a handful of dates with. I want partners who hold similar views, which would mean they also had low Ns.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:09 AM
1

0-10, any of those numbers or in between. If he's a really awesome guy and had a good reason for having a higher N, maybe I'd be okay with it. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:05 AM
1

The attractive guy might become even more attractive to her because she can't have him. Not a fox and the grapes scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:46 AM
1

What about when the feelings don't go away?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:44 AM
3

Nah, it's cool. I don't experience it from watching TV, but playing rpg videogames (like Morrowind, for example) or reading a well written novel is kinda like being the director of your own personal movie. Or like a glimpse into another lifestyle. I have always loved reading, ever since I was a child... some of my favorite memories are of lying in my grandmother's living room reading books about the Dragonriders of Pern. Anne McCaffrey is one of those authors who just has a way of writing that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:41 AM
2

It's easier to do with books or videogames.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:29 AM
1

Your username is intriguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:27 AM
1

Did she start having sex at 13?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:26 AM
3

I thought part of being a Chad is that pussy flows like wine for him at any given time...or something equally ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:25 AM
1

Oh, I agree. I'd much sooner slit my own wrists than harm either one of my loves. But it's still just a fact of the actions I'm performing on them that, yeah, I'm very powerful in that particular time. It's kinda like how I know when I play the sub instead and my older partner chokes me...I double tap my fingers on his wrist when I finally need air, and of course he's very careful to not bruise me, but I acknowledge the fact he could quite easily kill me in that position. He wouldn't, of course,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:23 AM
1

That'd be an interesting view to have. If she's totally rejected by the attractive male, I wonder if the middle males become more attractive since they are realistically obtainable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:17 AM
1

Care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:15 AM
1

I agree. Notice I didn't mention Feminists in my previous comment at all. For the fact them make claims about being for equality between the sexes, I've never met one in my area who actively asks the men they date to not do chivalrous things for them. However, I'm egalitarian and I've met 3 other women in the atheist Meetup we attend who are also. That's probably the type you're seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 12:14 AM
1

Yes, and what I'm saying is that people tend to forget or be ignorant about that. I'm not sure if people actually "forget" as much as "don't think about in daily life". We don't do things for someone because we "love" them. We do things for them because our brains make us feel good to be around them, to see them and do things for them because we receive benefits (and more good feelings) for doings so, all for the express purpose of ensuring the survival of ourselves, our offspring and our specie…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:07 PM
1

If they aren't Red Pill, pro-chivalry, or tradcon women they won't expect you to have money or spend it on them. That would be a good way to see what they're like from the very first date. Tell them you only go dutch, no exceptions. If they are cool with this, you may have a "winner".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:53 PM
5

I don't understand how this can be true, unless the women in question don't "see" men who are 5s-7s. There's plenty of attractive-but-not-hot men out in public every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:48 PM
1

Why not use it to weed out women who are not your type then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:36 PM
5

I'm female, they are male. I feel incredibly powerful and aroused when giving a blowjob. I mean, think about it... their most sensitive body part is in my mouth, where I have tremendous jaw strength and sharp teeth. It shows a lot of trust and vulnerability on their part, which is an amazing gift. I like how dominant this position is, where I'm crouched over their prone bodies is addictive especially when I've tied them up beforehand. I'm the active one, I'm the one giving pleasure, I'm the one …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:29 PM
1

Yup. That's my argument exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:19 PM
1

All emotions are based on neurochemicals though. None of them are tangible, whether it's anger, fear, love, panic, affection, sadness, horror, jealousy, excitement, etc. Each one is a product of nervous system activity, and the combination of hormones and neurochemicals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 09:17 PM
1

Yeah, I know. Didn't say my personal story was indicative of the norm. In fact, I stated that this was only my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:15 PM
1

Oh, I agree. That's why I find it silly that RP guys say that you still can't trust the women's N counts... because apparently they're telling the machines 4-10, but they've really had over 50 dicks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:12 PM
1

Same here. I have 2 younger brothers and 4 younger sisters. Even without my contribution, the family is not going to lack for last names or grandkids in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:11 PM
6

yes but she won't attract younger man that easily as a man can attract younger woman (all things being equal or similar). I'm not sure that's true, but all I have is personal experience to go on. About 3 years ago when my lover and I decided to find another man for our relationship, we both made dating profiles. Even though I openly stated I was 29, I had a wide range of men looking to LTR me (of course, the vast majority declined when I discussed what I was seeking) anywhere from age 20-50, wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:56 PM
4

This is amazing, I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:34 PM
1

That's also something cared about quite deeply here. I've known 2 different marriages where the bride's family begged the groom to take her last name instead because otherwise it would have died out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:32 PM
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My point is, that a wall does not exist for a man as long as he takes care of himself. And second point is, that as long as you look good, even in your 40s, your dating pool is widest, from 18 to 40 (assuming it stops at 40). The same can be said for women, though. If a woman doesn't smoke, doesn't drink excessively, stay out late getting bags under her eyes, doesn't go tanning, eats well, works out or jogs a few times a week, and stays hydrated she can look years younger than her peers who inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:27 PM
1

Okay, so let's wrap this up. I'm not going to respond to every point unless you ask me to clarify something I say in this comment. In general, women are attracted to dominance (the leadership kind, not the BDSM kind), height, muscles, lean bodies, status, confidence, providership, and resources. This is true. It will probably never be untrue. I personally am attracted to confidence, chubby men, no real defined muscles, facial symmetry, kindness, empathy, no facial hair, average size cock, a stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 11:21 AM
1

We're quite attached, but definitely not codependent. Each of us has our own lives, non-mutual friends, finances, living arrangements, etc. It's basically "love each other, but don't rely too heavily".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:45 AM
1

That's fair. People tend to forget that every emotion we have, including love, is from neurochemicals. But one of the easiest ways for both sexes to feel love is to have sex with a trusted partner, so they definitely can be connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:42 AM
1

This really isn't the case if you pay attention to the couples who walk by in the grocery, at the park, in the mall, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:38 AM
1

I'm in the northeastern US, but most of this country has strong religious opinions, most of them Christian. My area is pretty Republican and has a lot of 3-4 kid families.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:35 AM
1

Cool, thank you. What do you think of the common claim around here that the CDC records of N are unrealistic because of the "men add 3, women subtract 3 rule"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:26 AM
1

Not a marriage... I'm not a fan of the current use of it, since you essentially get wed to the state. But I'm in a poly MFM relationship now, and it's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:14 AM
1

Sex/physical intimacy is a biological need, so you're missing a key component of life if you don't or can't engage in it. Love/belongingness is higher up on Maslow's Hierarchy, but it's still a need. Without sex and love, people are more prone to depression, suicidal thoughts, social anxiety, high blood pressure, skin hunger, frustration, and general lack of motivation for living.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:12 AM
1

That's part of the reason I don't wear makeup, it seems fake, like false advertising. (Also feels weird on the skin.) One of my sisters is amazing with her makeup, she truly looks beautiful with it on, really stunning, 9/10. But when it's just her real face, I'm better looking than she is lol. My other sisters go for the "natural" look which doesn't make sense to me. If you're going to put on a minimal amount anyway, why bother? If that single pimple on your chin bothers you that much, just go b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 10:07 AM
1

And that's because women, like men, are just evolved walking apes with more ingenuity and less hair. Once you understand that principle and apply it to dating, it becomes quite liberating. Pretty sure anyone who wasn't homeschooled by a hyper-religious, anti-evolution mentor already knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:06 AM
11

If you're an average guy, trying going for an average gal if one "out of your league" won't date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 03:02 AM
3

So it's the love part of sex that you dislike?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:59 AM
2

Do you not enjoy teh sexing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:22 AM
1

I don't really think so. I prefer keeping my hair like this so it's short enough to be out of the way but still has enough there to style if I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:20 AM
1

Yup, they definitely do. If they discuss it in depth at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:11 AM
1

I put myself at a 8-9 because I had times in my life I was truly miserable and felt unwanted/unloved/misunderstood by nearly everyone in my family and church. Now that I keep interactions with my family to a minimum, am no longer a theist, in a relationship where I'm loved for who I actually am, and have a job I really enjoy that lets me exercise my mind and body daily... I can honestly say I have no reason to be less than a 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:57 AM
1

That's certainly an odd question. So your friend thought that anal sex between a man and a woman could still potentially be gay? I've not heard of that before, but if her religious beliefs spoke of sodomy as a purely male-male activity, that could be why.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:48 AM
1

I disagree that bisexual men or gay men are not masculine, however I realize this is probably not a typical view of sexuality. Also, just wanted to point out that anal sex isn't as common between men as the porn industry would like you to think. Oral sex is far more prevalent, from what I've been told.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:04 AM
1

Your usage of the word "you" was confusing at quite a number of points, as it was unclear if it was directed at me or was the general "you" referring to women as a whole. A failure of the English language. What women actually respond to.... and what women tell you they would respond to... are extremely frequently massively different. I agree, which is why I've given men RP advice even though it doesn't do much for myself. I'm not the person they're trying to fuck or LTR, ergo my advice is closer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:01 AM
2

Yup. Been with one for about 9 years, and the new addition to our relationship has been with us for a little under 4. They're actually thinking of moving in together, it's so sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:40 PM
1

That sounds pretty awesome, I'm a bit jealous of you now. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:37 PM
1

Are these the numbers the CDC has come up with, or are you using a different source?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:33 PM
1

True. I've read that most women aren't fond of bisexual males, but men aren't usually turned off by bisexual females. It's one of those interesting double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:31 PM
1

Damn. I know I wouldn't be able to pull something like that, it'd be too stark. Hell, I don't usually think it's a good look on men either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:29 PM
1

Lol. I don't think those are worth crying or getting angry about either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:51 PM
1

Ah. I don't have a dysphoria, I know I'm a woman lol. Just a tomboy. My hair is indeed short but shaved seems... rather extreme. I've had female friends before, just not right now. They've either "grown up" from their tomboyish tendencies or moved away. It's kinda sad, but not the end of the world. I'll make more eventually!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:48 PM
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And above 25 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:44 PM
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That's cool though! I don't know any women who do, there weren't any in the Meetup I used to attend. My mother and aunt go "camping" but they stay in the RV the whole time... doesn't really count.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:43 PM
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Yes. I'm into card games like Magic, hiking, camping, painting miniatures, boardgames, console videogames, comic books... essentially anything nerdy. No female friends currently, but I've had them in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:18 PM
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That's what I mean. Whereas, even if I simply scowl or state (without crying, yelling, throwing things, etck that I'm pissed off at something/someone, the typical response is "are you really upset or is something else going on" aka do you have your period. It's like anger in women isn't a valid emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:32 PM
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Yes. My N is 2, my first male partner's N is 7, and our mutual male partner is also 2 (I was his second, as he was mine). Someone who has already slept with almost a dozen people before even meeting me therefore, imo, has a large N which is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:29 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:24 PM
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You're one of the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:23 PM
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In all of the above (and in my posts generally) I discuss women in general. I tend to relate that to the individual woman (or man) I’m talking too as very often that’s the easy way to get them to recognise the commonality, as they share it. Then the honest thing to do, if you're going to talk about generalizations and simultaneously try to get someone to admit which of said generalizations are also true for them is to say so. Not do a long-winded song and dance where you assume they are going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:37 AM
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Okay, thank you. I'm glad we are on the same page now. So you weren't actually asking my personal opinion on anything we spoke of in the last 4 comments, you wanted me to discuss women in general. It would have been a much shorter and productive conversation if you'd stated that at the beginning lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:01 AM
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And yelling and pounding desks is essentially a primate dominance display. Why are you talking about shouting and hitting furniture now? My original comment was only about being angry, not reverting to overly emotional, irrational behaviors. Men as well as women are quite capable of being angry without reverting to these kinds of actions, which is what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:56 AM
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Yes, but I don't necessarily think it's genetic. My mother, sisters, and some of my female coworkers get irrational, have severe mood swings, cry at the drop of a hat, and just generally are impossible to deal with during certain times of the month. But I also have a period every 29 days and do not experience any of this...the most that happens is I'll actually cry if I see something sad, whereas during the rest of the month I can remain dry-eyed. I honestly believe that although a temporary hor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:51 AM
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Yes, this exactly. Even if toxic masculinity is a thing, it has been completely warped into a caricature of the original concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:40 AM
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A little of both, I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:38 AM
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It's not a matter of people liking him or not, it's whether they acknowledge that his anger is valid or if it's "just hormones, not real".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:36 AM
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Red flags: A high N (over 10), insistence on chivalrous behavior, guilt over skin color or the fact he's a male, little/no empathy for others, plays mind games, engages in high risk behaviors, smokes, drinks excessively, is a single dad, remains private or withholds important information after months of dating, is passive aggressive, dark triad personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:29 AM
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No friends that are girls (intolerable once the allure of the pussy is gone) What if she has acquaintances that are?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:15 AM
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Lol. That may be a problem for people who don't have Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:11 AM
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It is one's consciousness and sentience that makes them have intrinsic value outside of the extrinsic value we gain from our actions in society. Living on a deserted island by yourself for the rest of your life would remove your outer value based on what others think, but your inner value would remain until the time of your death. Once your mind is gone, all value is too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 08:10 AM
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Okay...so if I have these pieces of paper with unintelligible symbols on them, I can't communicate at all with the species that uses them, and I can't ask my own people's experts about them, then yeah. They have no real value to my alien persona. I may as well let them blow away in the wind, or keep one as a small souvenir of my trip to Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:47 AM
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I have trouble accepting this hypothesis because a core component of it appears to be your assertion that there are many more physically attractive women than there are men. This is not at all what I see just in daily life, so can't agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:43 AM
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I'm usually about a 8 or 9 most days. I'm a woman, 32 years old, Purple Pill/egalitarian, and am in a poly relationship with two wonderful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:34 AM
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Then the bank notes have no value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:31 AM
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Let me ask it this way; Do you value yourself, and if so, why? Is it based purely on your job or how much money you make? Your faith or religious beliefs? The degree you got in college? The kinds of foods you can cook from scratch or the skills you have in fixing machines? Or do you value your life independent of all those traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:28 AM
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Listen...dude...If I say your comment is correct for the overwhelming majority of women and men, will you at least admit that there are outliers for whom these things aren't true? Even if I just say it's 1% or some equally small number?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 01:15 AM
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~rolls eyes~ of course. Because you just stripped all the rest out by putting them on the beach and taking away the psychological factors. You even took away status ques from their clothes! Put them back in. Okay, but I stripped everything away on purpose to literally just talk about pure sexual attraction based on physical looks. Y'know, so I could further this discussion by talking about how sexy a guy is, and how it's based on their faces and bodies. You’re at a party... Okay, but why did you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 10:00 PM
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Won't this only work if the users come back and help to further update the data by giving numerical reviews of their dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:40 PM
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Eh. Too bad, so sad. There's many of us who are far worse off. I have a difficult time feeling sorry for someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:38 PM
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I wouldn't. I'd shoot people with my ray gun and probe some asses. But if I was undercover, I'd ask a bank teller.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:37 PM
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People who believe that are so hiveminded it borders on the absurd. Not that I am disagreeing with you, I just think people who take offense on behalf of all their subgroup are a special level of narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:36 PM
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Yeah, man. That's what I like to see. Nobody in my family likes musicals besides me either, but I still sing "Defying Gravity" or "Satisfied" when washing the dishes at my mother's house.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:33 PM
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Exactly. Nobody has more inherent value over anyone else. That's where our actions come in, and whether we help or hurt society/individual people by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:30 PM
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I suppose, in as much as we are primates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:28 PM
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Good point. I was thinking of actual brothels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:27 PM
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If you don't think people have inherent value as thinking, feeling, sentient beings then obviously your worldview is just different than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:26 PM
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I can honestly say that none of the 12 grown men (ages 26-47) in my social circle, whether they are my friends, lovers, or close acquaintances, would definitely not call you names for liking musicals. Either they wouldn't give a shit because we're not in high school anymore, or they would ask which ones you like because most of us enjoy them too. Both my lovers, 4 of our mutual friends, and myself went to go see Hamilton and we all fucking loved it. Seriously, if someone really has a problem wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 06:59 PM
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