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^ 100% this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:52 PM
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This guy is like the human embodiment of the soy wojak meme, lol. He may legitimately be your ideal man, but I find it incredibly dubious that he is for most women. I suppose he is "taking care of her" by being a house husband (absolutely unnecessary without kids, but that's another topic), but he's not at all providing for her. Just the opposite, she is the one paying all the bills. So again, do most women want this arrangement? Highly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:50 PM
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It's even more simple than this for wife material. Men do want a woman that is sexually free, but for him and him ONLY. She doesn't have to dress like a nun, but we don't want a Kardashian either. TL;DR - don't "advertise" you're free if you're taken. I put "for wife material" in bold because non-religious men have two distinct categories of women: "fun" (sex) or long-term/marriage. This is true about 99% of the time for non-religious men and unfortunately it's even true for some religious men (…
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/23 02:20 PM
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I’m waiting for marriage, & this has been a turn off to every guy I’ve talked to. You're talking to the wrong guys then.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/23 02:08 PM
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OP, you are a rare kind of western woman in 2023. Stick to your morals, you'll find a good man and he will absolutely cherish you! I'm assuming you're religious, so why not try to meet a man at church / synagogue / mosque? That is your best best IMO.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/23 02:07 PM
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I'm 41 and my wife is 29. We met 2 years ago. Both of us had been married & divorced before we met (no kids from the prior marriages, thankfully). We have our first child on the way now and are overjoyed! :) I think I was a bit of a rarity in that I was in my late 30s without kids and want them, and I'm a high earner. However, I bet there are a lot of men out there like me. If it suites you, you may want to date slightly older men as we tend to be more serious about having kids and have higher i…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/23 02:58 PM
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a trans a "woman" ...a single mom No one is owed an explanation for your sexual preferences, period. Just don't give them ammo, it's none of their business anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:23 PM
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OP, you're coming at this all wrong IMO. If you're ever comparing yourself to any of her exes you've already lost. Try and cultivate an abundance mindset and a strong belief in yourself and what you offer, then you'll naturally stop caring about her exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:19 PM
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…attractiveness is the top box metric yes, but it’s just one of many.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:40 PM
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You misunderstand. I’m not saying most men are claiming most women are unattractive, but rather that men are saying these women’s demands for a man are unreasonable for who the women are and what they offer. For example, a single mom wanting a man with no kids that’s a high earner to provide for her and her kid/s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:38 PM
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TMK, the main issue is that most of these women looking for an attractive, HV man do not have the looks and personality themselves to be demanding it. The qualities they’re looking for in a man are unreasonable for what they bring to the table. If you can get the partner you want, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:50 PM
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And if she doesn’t, just forget about her. Good lesson here IMO.
/r/seduction21/10/22 02:46 PM
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Can't speak for all men, but for the group of men I know and associate with? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:06 PM
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this mindset is ingrained in the y chromosome. Respectfully, that's nonsense. Men that are active fathers know and appreciate womanhood because they understand the extreme difficulties of childbearing, childrearing, and just motherhood in general. You may say, "but what about childfree women?" To which I would say those aforementioned men can of course remember what attracted them to their wives / girlfriends originally, so they understand and appreciate that aspect of femininity as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:02 PM
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Not that I really disagree, but there are plenty of feminine women left in the West if you know where to look, friend. And to be fair, "they" are trying to kill masculinity and that's also working, albeit probably not as well or as rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:55 PM
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Feminine energy, absolutely. <bites tongue to not type out diatribe about how it's systemically being eroded away in the West>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:51 PM
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I love how thoughtful and sweet my wife is. She cooks for me, cleans our house, helps me find things I've lost, and just makes my life better in so many ways! And yes, I do the same for her (minus the finding stuff, lol). Edit: Traditional feminine qualities in general. Heterosexual people need supporting, complimentary "energy" from a person of the opposite sex, respectively, to make a good couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:43 PM
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Hard agree, yes
/r/seduction20/09/22 06:54 PM
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^ exactly the common mentality that I'm talking about. That's what I did, but my point is not _all_ women that "make you wait" are doing it because they aren't into you. However, unless she's religious there's not really a valid reason for waiting too long, IMHO (although quantifying that time value is difficult and subjective). Aforementioned girl was holding out for marriage because she wanted a "golden ticket," a man to just give her whatever she wanted....extremely hard pass.
/r/seduction20/09/22 03:23 PM
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Yes, this is absolutely true. To make matters worse, the whole "if she's really into you she will give it up no matter what" BS is espoused everywhere by both men and women. I dated a girl a couple years ago that said she was a virgin (at 27) waiting for marriage, but I couldn't believe her because she wasn't religious and that's nearly impossible for an attractive woman in her mid-20's. I could not get the "if she's really into me she'll give it up" thing out of my head...and yeah, it's usually…
/r/seduction19/09/22 04:21 PM
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Serotonin reuptake inhibitors. They are prescription drugs for depression, anxiety, etc. Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, etc. I have generalized anxiety and my doc gave me Paxil because he said it’s the lightest of the bunch. It’s basically done fuckall for my anxiety but I can last as long as I want with my woman easier now, so it’s not all bad.
/r/newTRP16/09/22 01:31 AM
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This is the way it should be! Congrats to you both! =D
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 08:34 PM
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I"m with you, OP. If you find a good woman, just hang on to her.
/r/seduction29/07/22 03:40 PM
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You are right, but it’s simultaneously disingenuous to suggest that data points and patters do not exist - they clearly do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:13 PM
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You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills.
/r/seduction06/07/22 05:25 PM
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^ it’s this, 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:34 PM
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As a “tech bro” I’m just trying to make a living myself. I didn’t create this system and if I’m upholding it by making a damn living, sorry, but I literally cannot afford to GAF.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:12 AM
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I can agree, unless you want to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:07 AM
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Life is too short to stroke some woman's ego and give her unearned and undeserved attention: ("You should be friends with me after I rejected you because I'm such an awesome and interesting person!"). Not to be overly cynical - while that MIGHT have been true, by rejecting the man she closed the door to him ever finding out. If she wants friends she can easily go find them by other means. Personally IDNGAF if this is "rude" or "fair" or any other childish, subjective terms. I'm not interested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:16 PM
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I work in tech. Shock and awe, I know /s 😜 And yes, it’s male dominated but wow are they (my employer and pretty much all others in Silicon Valley) pushing hard to get more women in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:26 PM
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High-value men (“Chads”) are often very intelligent and high-class. They are often good guys. Very hard agree. "Chad" was a mock/insult originally (reserved for rich, preppy boys with daddy's money), but if anything it's usually a complement now AFAICT. Being a "Chad" is more-or-less synonymous with being a HVM in 2022.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/22 04:17 PM
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Because it's a bad-faith take on men and, coming from a man's perspective, I can tell you it's (at least mostly) untrue. That is not how we think.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/22 03:58 PM
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Your last point part is painfully true. Porn, booze, weed, video games, junk food, etc....is killing young Western men and almost no one gives a shit, least of all the men who are suffering from low-T. :/
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/22 03:52 PM
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Never seen "Chad" portrayed as a leftist...at all. Typically he's the "Adonis" guy and is the polar opposite of a leftist: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/gigachad-meme-instagram-meaning-irl
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/22 03:49 PM
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Men who accept the reality of “Chad” aren’t necessarily insecure. You’re viewing this through the lens of a woman’s eyes, which explains why you’d see these men sharing memes of “Chad” and automatically think “oh they’re insecure!” That’s a woman-thought. 1000% this ^
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/22 03:46 PM
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Not only that, you see it play out in "regular" subs like Tinder, Bumble, Dating, and DatingAdviceForMen as well, only they typically refuse to acknowledge the "ugly" truth of the matter.
/r/RedPillWomen05/05/22 03:41 PM
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When in doubt consult The 9 Iron Rules of Tomassi: https://youtu.be/jadEr-0uKXk?t=820 Rule # 2 explicitly addresses this. TL;DR - the answer is "no."
/r/newTRP02/05/22 07:48 PM
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Exactly this. They can't handle anything that resembles critical thought.
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:33 PM
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It puts me in an awkward spot because when I tell them straight up what's going on, they get very upset. Because they know you're right. Truth hurts, but IMHO you owe it to your sisters to be honest with them. Edit: Re-reading this I think (hope?) you mean your sisters' friends, but not your sisters themselves.
/r/seduction26/04/22 04:55 PM
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OP, have you tried telling them "Chads are gonna Chad"...? Because Chads are gonna Chad. </shrug>
/r/seduction26/04/22 04:53 PM
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Condoms obviously help, but they don’t prevent all STDs. For example, the herpes virus can live in the groin region outside of what the condom covers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:31 PM
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*Is everyone And yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:28 PM
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If that’s your actual take then you really need to do some introspection. You are the one choosing the men, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:24 PM
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I'm a (mostly) RP'd man and I'm getting married. Gotta find a woman that's worth having kids with, which is obviously quite difficult, but it can be done. :)
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/22 07:41 PM
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I hear you, that’s just my opinion as a man and from what I read online. Everyone in my personal life is fully supportive of my relationship with said 28 y/o woman. At any rate, crying about a 25 year old woman getting “groomed” is hyperbolic, ridiculous and undermines the autonomy and mental capacity of said woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:31 PM
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If a couple are both adults and they get along personality wise, then why is age such a big deal? It's really not, I think it's mostly just that women can't stand the idea of younger women being hotter, despite the fact that they exploited the exact same dynamic when they were younger. And yes of course, there are predatory men that ruin it, but the human brain is fully formed at 25. Also, from a legal standpoint men can go die in a war at 18, yet I don't see anyone crying about them getting "gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:22 PM
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In a word: yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 09:32 PM
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I’d probably rather be celibate and go monk mode. Thankfully I’ve never have to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:03 PM
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Not just intelligent, but also wise. Well said!
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/22 03:34 AM
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Nailed it. I work in Tech and wholehearted agree. Intelligence is sexy!
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/22 03:32 AM
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It means sex is transactional and he’s a beta provider. If she was truly attracted to him she’d do everything she’s done before and more…and it might even be her ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:20 AM
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I have always found it hot when guys are vulnerable with me Ehh, define "vulnerable." It's a man opening up on his hopes and dreams, then sure. But if it's a man showing weakness and/or crying about his problems then I guarantee you that most women don't find it "hot." Also see: "I'm not your therapist."
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:59 PM
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Aesthetics. Arm tattoos look masculine, so can perhaps be complimentary for a man (although I don’t have any myself). Reverse would be like a man with a tramp stamp - that is considered “feminine” (for a tattoo).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:49 AM
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I do see them as a red flag IF they are excessive, for instance any plainly visible arm tattoos. And nope, I happen to have no tattoos, but like most things discussed here, it's not the same for men and women... Ultimately though it's more of an aesthetic issue for me. Tattoos on a nice pair of tits is like slapping a bumper on a Ferrari. Arm tats just look trashy and masculine AF to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:23 AM
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I agree, but you need to experience it for yourself to really make that call. And funny enough, once you can see through the matrix the women come a hell of a lot easier. Abundance mindset, gents. You don't need them, they need YOU. Never forget it.
/r/seduction12/04/22 11:50 PM
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If you think you want the opposite of an agreeable, submissive woman then I don’t think you’ve ever dated one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:08 AM
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Men are still committing and getting married, just not as much anymore. However, women aren't either. Unless you meant women want something else other than commitment...?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:26 PM
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those "Polar Bear Plunge" people Cold showers are amazing and are good for you! They give me a nice norepinephrine boost to start my day! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:56 PM
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Every single man is born and raised as a blue pilled simp This isn't really true IMO. Talk to men that grew up in the Southeast or the Midwest (US) with strong fathers. They are naturally RP'd in many respects, though it's closer to Trad (being a provider is highly valued).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:56 PM
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There is nothing wrong with porn. The data says the opposite: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:28 PM
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Bro, you are coping. You are free to eat junk food all day, but don't get online and try to tell people it's healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 03:14 PM
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However you define it, porn IS negative: Part 1-5: Your Brain on Porn | Animated Series The great porn experiment | Gary Wilson | TEDxGlasgow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:59 PM
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I can't believe someone did this to a nostalgic gem of my childhood.... ...but also, LMFAO xD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:54 PM
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Damn, I'm sorry that happened to you. Child rearing is hard work and should be compensated. I'm no expert by any means, but my understanding is that you are entitled to 50% of the "marital assets" in a divorce, by default (unless there's a prenup). They weigh the man's net-worth against the woman's as well though, hence my comment about SAHM's (potentially) getting more. My ex-wife worked and made about 1/2 what I do but she actually had more in her retirement accounts, so there wasn't a huge di…
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/22 06:34 PM
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Ironically enough, it’s the sole breadwinner men that get taken for the most if they get divorced. While I of course get the value of a SAHM 100%, from a financial standpoint it’s a lot smarter to marry a woman who doesn’t need a man’s financial provisioning. Also the one and only woman I dated that didn’t want to work was lazy, entitled, and privileged - very unattractive personality.
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/22 05:08 AM
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Facebook dating, believe it or not.
/r/seduction31/03/22 10:55 PM
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^ bingo
/r/seduction31/03/22 09:21 PM
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I’m 40 and my GF is 28. Anyone that doesn’t like it can eat a big ole bag of dicks. Tell them to mind their own business and stay out of yours.
/r/seduction31/03/22 09:20 PM
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Bro, figure out what you’re fighting about and make it stop. I can almost guarantee you it’s some shit she is doing you don’t like, or something you’re doing that you need to get her in line and set expectations on. It sounds like you’re not being firm enough with her. Fix that shit. You are the man, so LEAD. And for fucks sake, stop telling about your weaknesses and insecurities! Just play it off, blame work/stress, whatever. Never let your woman see you weak.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/22 05:07 PM
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I’ve had covid and my dick still works fine, and I’m 40
/r/TheRedPill30/03/22 05:04 PM
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If she’s a feminist then OP should definitely leave her, no question. They will make your life hell.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/22 05:01 PM
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I take it you do not approve?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 12:59 AM
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Yes, and I can agree. Women don't need tall men anymore to ensure they have strong, healthy children either, but we all see how that's working out here in 2022, don't we. Biology takes a very long time to adapt, if it ever does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:46 PM
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Well, cheating is certainly unethical and shitty. I don't know if cheating is "natural" or not, but a successful, powerful man having sexual access to multiple women is quite natural, according to human history. One could even argue that monogamy is unnatural (despite my personal belief that it's the best fit for most humans, so I wouldn't be one to argue that point). Men's sexual strategy is to "spread his seed," after all. That is how a male ensures his genes will live on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:22 PM
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Two things come to mind: It depends. If his woman is okay with it, then yes. This is of course assuming neither of them prescribe to a religion that dictates monogamy (Christianity). Some couples bring in a woman as a 3rd. That's probably the most common set up TMK. Men and women are not the same. Throughout human history women have shared HVM. To the contrary, men knowingly sharing one woman has been extremely rare. In nature you see mammal males kill each other for sexual access to female/s - …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:00 PM
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A man that would deserves no friends, hard agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:12 PM
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Because most men are so thirsty and dumb they'll do it anyways. Again, you have trash "friends" if they would fuck you over like that. Men are horny sure, but we're not animals, FFS. I have never and will never fuck one of my buddies GFs or wives. And we all hang out and drink regularly. And the bigger issue in this hypothetical is your woman throwing herself at your friends. She's for the streets if that happens even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:11 PM
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Fuck that noise. If this is true then you have shit friends, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:06 PM
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Stay based, my dude. The friend-zone is 100% real no matter how hard women deny it and lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:05 PM
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You wouldn't catch feelings for a friend's mom I wouldn't be so sure about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 06:02 PM
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I have female friends, but most of them are GFs or wives of my buddies. It's tiresome even being friends with some of them at times (try to bring you into drama, gossip, etc). However, I am also coupled, so this dynamic typically works fine. I don't "hang out" with other women 1-on-1 or in a private setting because I'm not trying to have sex with any woman other than my fiancee. Similarly, I do not allow her to do spend any time with men alone either. Understand, I trust her 100% but this is a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:59 PM
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Extremely hard AGREE
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:16 PM
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Any man that lets "his" woman have sex with other men is a cuck in my book, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:51 PM
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This was not "alpha" behavior, full-stop. I can see how people could misconstrue it as standing up for your woman, but it was beta AF. You don't even need the context or backstory IMO... If you see a drunk idiot in a bar picking fights and having emotional outbursts, do you think he's alpha? No, clearly he's projecting his insecurities for all to see. That's exactly what this was.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:47 PM
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^ 100% this. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:34 PM
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confidence in a man means nothing to women. Not that I really disagree with you, but I wouldn't go that far. Think about two more-or-less equally attractive men - if man "A" is super confident and man "B" is painfully awkward and insecure, then obviously man A will clean up and man B won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:08 AM
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"Men, this is ultimately on you." Maher nailed it with that closer. Who gives a shit what women say they want or don't want? Only white-knights, "nice guys," and betas. Men that are on their purpose and staying true to themselves DO NOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:45 AM
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Haven’t you heard? Being truthful isn’t friendly anymore. Oh no, you have to tell your friends whatever comforting bullshit they want to hear. God forbid you say something that….offends them! /s “Woke” culture is fucking cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:45 PM
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Those are reasonable standards in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:41 PM
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First of all you’re starting with the false premise that these two things can’t be mutually exclusive. It is readily apparent that both conditions are true: men are horny and women are hypergamous. Fix that and we can have an honest debate. BTW, I guess we can add this to the already miles long list of shit that is “men’s fault” according to women. I think at this point it would be easier to simply keep track of shit that isn’t (supposedly) “men’s fault.” For being adults, the lack of accountabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:32 PM
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Book, checkmate! ^ Good stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:30 PM
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“M is a total whore” is the first thought that came to mind, but you’re right, she’s a liar too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:36 PM
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Thank you, /u/sritaunicelular 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:10 PM
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Do you dudes do intermittent fasting? I read it’s a good way to get your body onto ketosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:37 AM
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Oof, feel you hard there. My ex wife had major depression issues and it was one of the biggest reasons our marriage didn't make it. You can't really "fix" someone, they have to do it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:54 AM
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Nerdy and needy, OUCH 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:24 AM
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I assume you live in a Nordic country…?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:22 AM
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Loll, avatar checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:20 AM
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Female physical attraction standards are so strange, lol. My ex and her bestie went on a rant one night about how hot old dudes like Jeff Goldblum (ok, I can see it) and Sean Connery are…and yes, they meant current day versions of these men (it was when Connery was still alive, obviously). TF! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:18 AM
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Relationship Market Value
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:22 PM
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Can’t outrun that sabertooth tiger, but on the plus side she gets eaten instead of you and the tiger is full for a long while 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:10 PM
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The few dudes I know that dated fat girls seemed to relegate themselves to said girls, believing they couldn’t do better. “Hey man, fat girls need lovin’ too!” Was how it was put to me, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:07 PM
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The truth is “BBW” are not actually “beautiful” by most men’s standards. Sorry, but it’s the truth. But I can understand why this is being pushed so hard… Yes, beauty standards for women have been brutal and unrealistic. Yes, it has been fucking up women and girls for awhile and that’s clearly no good….but this isn’t the answer (IMHO). I don’t know what is, but this ain’t it. Maybe get off Insta for awhile and just look at pretty women IRL, I dunno. Tons of them are beautiful, but not model stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:03 PM
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This is a big one (pun intended). Fat girls get smash-n-dashed waaaaay more because their RMV is much lower than a fit woman’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:55 PM
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^ Hard agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:53 PM
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Thin/fit women with smaller T&A > fat women with a gut. All day every day, and it’s not even close for me. My GF is a b-cup and she is sexy AF. Long legs help (she’s 5’9). I’ll happily die on this hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:52 PM
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Just read the a few books like “Models” by Mark Manson and “No More Mr. Nice Guy” I don’t believe dating coaches are really useful or effective, but then again I’ve never used one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:12 PM
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No. Your premise is predicated upon A.) These "fun" women wouldn't be out there having sex and hooking anyway (which they would be) and B.) That said women are being tricked and/or are not culpable for their actions, which is also false. Women put themselves in one of these two categories first and foremost, men just place them accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:48 PM
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I took OP's statement as men having more "life" options (not mate options) than women, which is basically true. Of course women do have more mate options though since our biology dictates that men pursue and women chose, yes.
/r/RedPillWomen24/03/22 04:29 PM
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when a girls sees right through your tactics? This is your problem right here: "tactics" I'm sure some will disagree, but IMO being truly RP'd means you are not acting, it's just who you ARE. That is what is meant by frame. And sure, you may have to "fake it till you make it" but as anyone that has done this (or anything similar) will tell you, once you change your behavior long enough you are no longer "faking" it, you ARE it.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/22 03:43 PM
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...also, I'm not condoning "fuck-zoning" women or being a man-whore, but merely offering an explanation of how men operate in this respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:40 AM
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OP, I see where you're going with this and why it seems nonsensical or even paradoxical, but you're forgetting one major thing: most sexually successful men put women into two very different categories: Suitable for LTR or marriage **or** Just for "fun" (sex) Note there is a hard *or* delineation here. A woman almost never switches categories, or goes in both category simultaneously - if she does the man that's doing said categorizing is foolish. Women (mistakenly) believe they can go from categ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:35 AM
3

Men and women have never been the same, are not the same now, and will never be the same in any point in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:19 AM
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Taking the logical conclusion to its illogical end, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:45 PM
3

Two things come to mind: Being truly alpha is just doing what you want and giving no fucks but... You are your own worst enemy. Yes, do what makes you happy. Fuck what society says, women say, or even what men or TRP says. DO YOU. The issue in hedonism, laziness, excess, etc, etc, is that (IMO) it does not lead to actual happiness, but rather to just short lived pleasure...and ultimately to emptiness and another round on the hedonism treadmill, then rinse-repeat, ad infinitum. But this is a road…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/22 03:38 PM
1

Matrix was a recent blockbuster? The latest one didnt bust any blocks lol Hate to say it, but yeah, the new Matrix movie kinda sucked. Good example of "go woke, go broke."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:48 PM
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Hard agree, yes. Also, the asshole/jock boyfriend of many 80s/90s movies comes to mind. The narrative is that the nice guy simp will get the girl in the end...but that never happens IRL. It's even pervasive in pop music like the Wheatus song "Teenage Dirtbag." Her boyfriend's a dick And he brings a gun to school And he'd simply kick my ass if he knew the truth He lives on my blockAnd he drives an IROC But he doesn't know who I am And he doesn't give a damn about me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:38 PM
2

Damn, lucky man! My GF is okay with me getting a rub-n-tug, but it stops there, loll If I may ask, is this a "open relationship" thing where you also get some on the side, or is your guy that high-value that he legit has a harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:25 PM
4

One word: Vodka
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:21 PM
1

You're conflating being "genuinely kind" with being a doormat, but they are not the same thing. You do realize you can be firm and respected without being an asshole, right? Because you absolutely can. Not to even mention that being an asshole doesn't necessarily make anyone fear you, but it will make them resent you and avoid you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:19 PM
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because they’re “white” Just because a person isn't from the UK or western Europe doesn't mean they are not white. They're "white" loll, what TF else would they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:12 PM
2

99% sure you're thinking of Hispanic women, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:09 PM
2

My fiancée is Russian - that has not been my experience AT ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:08 PM
2

Extremely based, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:06 PM
2

her husband being allowed to have "concubines." Pretty sure the vast majority of Russian women are not cool with their man having other women, but I don't want to speak for u/LittleDragonMaiden.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:04 PM
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My GF is Russian and basically says the same thing (I'm American).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:01 PM
1

You are probably worse off in the US Any data to back up this claim? The only countries I know of that have it arguably better than the US are certain Scandinavian countries, such as Denmark. Canada and Australia have "free" healthcare, but no free speech. Extremely hard pass. In Australia you could be arrested for merely using the internet to try and organize an event (note: not actually going) during lockdown and at least one person actually was arrested for just that. Their version of "freedo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:46 PM
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That’s immaterial. The statement I made is demonstrably true. People that want to blame external factors for their plight in life will always be doomed to fail, period. RP rule 0: Own your shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 04:41 PM
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Victim mentality bullshit. If you live in the West you are extremely privileged, especially in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 10:32 PM
1

It happens. A few months ago back when I was single I was chatting up a cute blonde at a bar. We were on the back patio smoking and it was relatively private, so I made a move and it worked. We made out for a bit and then exchanged numbers. I text her the next day about the band we were talking about……and nothing. Chalk it up to just being drunk. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I say just take the L and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:37 PM
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First and foremost I admire my fiancée - she is the most incredible woman I’ve ever known. And of course I admire my mother and other women in my life. Even for relationships that didn’t work out, I’ve dated some pretty remarkable women. I also admire women I don’t know IRL that are amazing musicians/artists like Tori Amos and Bjork. Not the same at all, but I suppose worth mentioning. Understanding generalities of female nature != “hating women.” In fact I’d argue that the more you understand a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 10:39 PM
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Multiple women in the pics have the center nose ring, colored hair, and/or excessive tattoos. They’re attractive enough, but these are giant red flags IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:05 PM
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I’m not trying to discredit her, only point out the fact that people need to take personal responsibility for choosing poor partners. I’m sure there are systemic issues for men, just as there are for women. One has to decide for oneself if it’s “worth it,” but to disparage either gender as a whole is silly and childish - the more likely scenario is that person chose shitty partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:36 PM
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My point was that if a person consistently chooses poor partners, there is always one commonality: the person who chose said partners. Unless you just want to believe “all men are bad,” in which case there’s nothing to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:31 PM
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I have no idea what the answer is on a societal level, but even if you vehemently agree with everything else TRP is about, its principles for men are sound AF: - Be true to yourself. Read the book “No More Mr. Nice Guy” for details - Lift and workout. Eat right and take care of your body. - Don’t waste time doing counterproductive bullshit like jerking off and playing video games - Own your shit. Kill any shred of victim mentality inside you, stop making excuses!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:23 AM
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I won’t deny there are RP men that are (at least seemingly) bitter, but you can also present objective observations without being bitter about them. That’s a foundational idea of TRP: “Accept female nature for what it is, not what you want it to be.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:13 AM
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You admittedly have your choice of men, yet all the men you choose suck…? Did I get that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:10 AM
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Women that are in the 3 to 7 range in terms of looks get “fuck zoned” plenty, TMK. Meaning they want a relationship, but the dudes they hook up with just hit and quit. At least that’s what I hear…not that I’ve ever done that, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:03 AM
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Obviously a cam girl or OF “model” is an immediate HELL NO. 👎
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:59 AM
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+1 for women that work with kids! They will make excellent moms. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:57 AM
1

Only woman I talked to on a dating app that I was like “nope” because of her career was a lobbyist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:55 AM
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I can't believe what I'm reading in those comments. Blue pill brainwashing is the norm. Imagine if the tables were turned and it was a woman that complained that her husband stopped working and/or turned into a slob. 100% guarantee you the Reddit consensus would be that HE is "the asshole," not her.
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/22 04:15 PM
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The OP man desperately needs to read the book "No More Mr. Nice Guy." This is typical "nice guy" behavior: withholding his true feelings and opinions until he can't do so anymore, then blowing up. And to boot he's going to Reddit asking for the opinion of strangers.
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/22 04:12 PM
2

I met my fiancée on FB dating. I’m a chad 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:29 PM
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and/or big time daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:31 AM
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Dated an ex-stripped that just said "it's up there" and when I pressed for a number, she told me....wait for it.....80! We were just in a FWB situation, so I suppose that helped her feel at ease about disclosing her number. So while I do agree, sometimes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:30 AM
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IMO, having children is the only reason men should get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:16 PM
2

Not really giving us a good look here, my guy.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/22 06:17 PM
2

Also sounds you talking about liberal men, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:47 PM
1

That is true, but it's less common now. Less supply, so greater demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:46 PM
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Because modern feminism has made women needlessly combative, competitive, and even vindictive towards men. And, surprise surprise, men hate it and find it repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:03 PM
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Literally no trad men that I know do that. That's liberal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 08:00 PM
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Interesting feedback here, thank you. I work in tech and there are a handful of women devs that are good, but yeah, the overwhelming majority are men.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/22 04:18 PM
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You're right, and that's the main reason why I refuse to date single moms.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/22 02:57 AM
1

I like your creativity here, but nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:25 PM
3

Don't be afraid of free thought. FFS, it's what founded TFP after all...
/r/TheRedPill06/03/22 03:25 AM
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Perhaps I guess, but I posted “beta bucks doesn’t work anymore because women make their own money” on another post here and got a lot of upvotes. There is something to it for sure. Plus, despite the truth of your above statement, I don’t think most women marry with the intention of ever getting divorced. I agree that being a higher earner than your woman is obligatory for her to respect, admire, and be attracted to you, though.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/22 02:12 AM
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Honest question: why would Beta Bucks even still work now...does it still work? Because women make their own money.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/22 01:30 AM
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I mean yeah, but it kinda depends too. I get offers all the time on LinkedIn, but it's not usually something I'm super interested in, or it's some tiny no-name company. If you work in tech and want to get into a FAANG company, you're probably gonna have to apply.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/22 06:47 PM
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You're right, but it's less common. However, even high earning women are still hypergamous and want men that want more than them.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/22 06:37 PM
2

Where or how did you get that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:05 AM
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Beta bucks doesn't work anymore. Women make their own money.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/22 02:58 PM
1

I guess the "crazy" women in my past just weren't that crazy, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:42 PM
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Live in the US, so I wouldn’t know, but yikes 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:51 AM
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I know I’m not immune, no one is. My ex had severe depression and mental health issues and I tried to help, but I of course couldn’t. I don’t think she willfully manipulated me, but suffice to say the relationship wasn’t always good for me, but I stayed in til the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:39 AM
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OP, you already are living in fear by obsessing over this (AFAICT). Relax and go with the flow, you’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:35 AM
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I think your heart’s in the right place, but trying to normalize this is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:32 AM
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To counter, it’s up to the receipt to verbalize her lack of consent for sex if she suddenly feels that way, especially if she’s been giving “yes” body-language the entire time leading up to that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:28 AM
3

Why are you so worried about this? I can guarantee you this is the polar opposite mindset you need to succeed with women and get laid. It’s very “beta.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:23 AM
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Depends on the relationship. If it’s new or we’re just dating I stand down, but if it’s my GF or wife I might put in a little more effort into getting her in the mood IF it’s obvious that it’s a soft “no” (which is in actuality a “maybe”).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:22 AM
3

1000 times this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:19 AM
2

RP ranges from “just feel it out and go for it” to “she will claim you raped her no matter what, you can’t win.” I very much prefer the former and cringe at the later. And I’ve never, ever had a single issue with consent. However, I’ve never had trouble getting women and getting laid either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:18 AM
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I can only speak for myself, but if my woman is constantly being a bitch and/or hard to deal with, we’re done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:15 PM
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Hard agree. It doesn’t (edit: usually) work on healthy people, thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:58 PM
0

Absolutely this. The more you demand of yourself as a HVM, the more you demand of your woman and the less you GAF about pursing women, especially ones that aren’t worth it. I don’t need her to be rich at all, but just financially stable and have little-to-no debt, no drama or bullshit, and most importantly, no kids. All standards that I also hold myself to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:12 PM
1

I’m confused by your avatar: are you yourself not a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:44 AM
0

Elaborare please?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:27 PM
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This isn’t really a RP thing IMO. I’ve seen it listed as advice for non-RP dating advice forums for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:24 PM
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TRP makes no such delusional claims about just magically getting women as you get older. It’s not copium, that’s the other pill. If it were there would be no concept of “red pill rage.” As for my personal experience, I had no difficulty getting women in my 20s around my same age. I was the frontman for a band, and that certainly helped. However, I drank way too much and partied my ass off, never worked out, smoked and didn’t give AF about my health. Point is, I wasn’t waiting to get older, think…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:15 AM
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Absolutely true. The concept of “leagues” isn’t total bullshit, but it’s largely overblown IMO. Most men have limiting beliefs when it comes to dating and that is what really fucks them. Abundance mindset, gents. If you believe it, you become it. That’s why TRP isn’t about “larping,” it’s about actually becoming. If you’re larping you’re doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:54 AM
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Lol, I actually did date one ex-stripper. She was a fine woman, it just didn’t work out. And she’s a professional now and doing fine with money, so that wasn’t the case for me. Edit: oh, you didn’t mean me, lol. I thought that comment was a bit out of left field.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:50 AM
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I’m 40 and my GF is 28, yep. Had no issue dating women in their mid-late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:05 AM
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Age counts against both genders of course, it just counts against women more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:58 PM
4

Why do you know how big your dad’s 🍆 is though? 😬 Just jokes, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:19 PM
0

Hard same, bro. It’s hard AF to get really lean but I can rip my arms, shoulders, and chest up all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:13 PM
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Having a thin(ish) waist is a very close second, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:43 PM
1

Yes, engaged. Getting married this fall. Worth noting my fiancée is an immigrant and was raised in Eastern Europe. Yes, but don’t believe that TRP is a monolith and disagree with some tenants, namely the “never get married” one. I’m mostly trad-con, FWIW.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:28 PM
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Beautiful face > everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:22 PM
1

Speaking as a millennial, our generation was raised on selfishness. Sorry, it’s just the truth. AFAICT gen-Z is just as bad, if not worse. Having kids is extremely hard work, and you’re signing up for it for literally the rest of your life…a lot of millennials are just too selfish to even consider it. Ironically enough, many of said millennials will end up sad and regretful that they did not have kids IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:12 PM
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Not necessarily true, I agree. It is cultural, ultimately. What drives said culture can be religion, or other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:25 PM
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The baldness gene is actually carried by the mother’s father, oddly enough. Hard agree though, super grateful I still have a full head of hair and am old enough to know it’s here to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:29 PM
1

To try an analogy: eating nothing but junk food that is slowly killing you and making you fat vs. eating healthy foods that make you stronger and well. Everyone knows that junk food is bad for you, but most Western men see no issue with jerking it to porn everyday. IMO many people don't differentiate between the Takis and the kale. And look, I fuckin' love Takis, they taste amazing...but I don't kid myself into thinking they are good for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:33 PM
1

…also, it’s a bit of a trap because by watching porn and jerking off all the time, a potentially higher value man is lowering said potential (and thus his value). We need drive and testosterone to go make the "kill" IRL, be it in a job, at the gym, with women, etc. Porn and masturbation robs one of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:58 PM
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That's fair, yes. TBC, I’m not trying to telling anyhow how to live, just promote awareness. I was oblivious to this shit for far too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:55 PM
0

This is Reddit, we must be a nerd about everything haha But yeah, of course ignorance is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:54 PM
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As a man, I’m against porn for other reasons: it’s tricking your brain and body into thinking you are “winning” when in fact you are not. Especially with jerking off, men get all the happy, reward chemicals of a job well done when they did no work. Get out there IRL and do the work, earn it! You’re only doing yourself a disservice by not. And yes, I fully realize this is not feasible for some men, but those that can, should.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:06 AM
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Those don’t make you last longer, they just make you hard. If you’re looking to last longer you can get on a SSRI like Paxil. Too much of a dose though and you legit cannot cum. Takes a couple weeks to start working BTW
/r/newTRP18/02/22 05:06 AM
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You don’t get it, wasn’t meant to be about me specifically. The point was that hard mode is TRP way, but it’s by choice and opposite of a victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:59 AM
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Males as a whole collectively believe that they "live life on hard mode." Privileged, upper middle-class, straight, white male checking in here. ;P I take cold showers, workout and lift, climb mountains, push myself hard AF in my career, etc, all kinds of shit to make my life "harder"...because I prefer it that way. So yes, I do live life on hard mode, but it is by choice. I actively seek out challenges and hammer away until I fucking crush them. Growth mentality - this is the polar opposite of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:47 PM
0

Gay dude pretending to be into women. Notice how all the "bi" dudes are young. It's a "I'm so cool" phase AFAICT. I know plenty of gay dudes in their 30's and 40's and not a single "bi" man in that age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:25 PM
1

He thinks being a twink and getting pegged is "getting women" hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:21 PM
1

Suicides among men are rampant because of toxic masculinity. JFC, you are hopelessly lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:18 PM
1

*Any men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:15 PM
3

Yet another good argument for the 2nd Amendment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:08 PM
2

Yes, same concept. Employees stay when they're happy, but quit when they're unhappy with the agreement - when the compensation offered by the employer is inadequate. In fact we're seeing it in mass currently with "The Great Resignation."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:57 PM
1

Women control sex so men don’t really have much say when it comes to smv. Nope, SMV doesn't work that way. Woman (supplier): "This is the new iPhone 14. Don't you love it and want to buy it?" Man (buyer): "That's a flip phone. No, I don't want to buy it." ^ see how this logic immediately falls apart? Flip the genders - same concept applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:26 PM
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The subjective definitions of it are all fine and good, but there has to be an objective, general definition of femininity as well. You can't just say "it's anything," that's a cop-out. If it's "anything" it's nothing. And for most straight men it does mean pleasant, warm, agreeable, supportive, etc. Again, the buyer dictates the value in the market, not the supplier. Same goes for women's definition of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:19 PM
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Never said that I am, I said go ask... But sure, I'll take a crack at it: essentially it's "play to your strengths." You are espousing that femininity is less-than, but that's not what they say in the r/RedPillWomen sub. They see femininity as a positive. They also promote being traditional and submissive for their men, but it takes a woman of sufficiently high value do so. I think this Ayn Rand quote sums it up well. "It means an intense kind of admiration; and admiration is an emotion that can…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:36 PM
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It's all about framing and perspective: if you think you are a victim, then you are one. However, if you think that who you are makes you valuable and desirable then you will see that in your life... So the question is of femininity itself, what is it - good or bad? Equal/greater or less-than? Strong or weak? However you answer, men are attracted to it and see it as valuable and (thanks to attitudes displayed in posts like this) it's becoming a scarce commodity in the west. And no, modern femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:28 PM
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That feminine means “vulnerable, docile, submissive”. All of these words indicate that not only is the woman less than the man, but the man has inherent power of the woman. Go ask in /r/RedPillWomen to see if they equate being feminine with these characteristics. Then go ask it in any of the liberal, modern feminists subs, of which there are plenty. Who exactly is pushing the false narrative that being feminine is "weak" or less-than? It's certainly not men doing so. Edit: Thanks for the silver,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:16 PM
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No one is talking about your individual preferences Men preferring feminine women is hardly a unique or individual preference, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:53 PM
0

OP, your first and strongest associations with being feminine == weak and subservient? Guess what "ism" did that....it was not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:51 PM
1

The only time it's good advice is if your self is already attractive...but in that case you don't need advice to begin with, so it's a bit paradoxical, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:39 PM
0

Fantastic analogy - take my upvote!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:24 PM
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One of my buddie's uber liberal and feminist GF openly mocks him in front of their guests, one of them being me. Shit like "he's the big dumb ape and I'm in charge." Plays it off as cute or endearing but it's cringe and toxic AF to me. He does/says nothing...it's unbelievable. Yet they are still together and seemingly happy, so what do I know. I just wouldn't tolerate that shit personally. I also would never insult or demean my GF, especially not in front of friends, FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:19 PM
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Yep, vindication and ego validation are strong motivators, perhaps even stronger than the want/need for love and acceptance. It's sad, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:34 PM
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Start from this position; Most people are pretty awful, gender has almost nothing to do with that underlying fact. Wise words here. I personally take a slightly different approach: - My woman: "Trust, unless she's given me a reason not to." - Society (& women in general): "Doubt, unless given a reason not to." So the baseline is different, opposite even. Moreover though, I agree with OP that if you are disdainful or resentful of the opposite sex you're not going to have a successful romantic rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:30 PM
2

I can only speak for myself, but I do not have these negative views/feelings/etc towards women. I have no reason to. I'm engaged to an amazing woman and we're going to be married later this year. I've always had good luck with women, gotten dates, sex, and GFs easily. I was the frontman for an indie rock band that had moderate regional success in my 20s, had multiple releases, toured overseas, played SXSW a few times, etc. I discovered TRP when I was going through my divorce two years ago. I, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:19 PM
0

Lifting and being in shape is of course good, but I personally don't like the aesthetic of overly muscular arms on women. It does not look feminine. Just don't overdo it and you'll be fine I'm sure.
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/22 09:57 PM
1

No, and don't bother. I'm sure you have nothing of value to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:51 PM
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You sound like a Mormon. I'm not religious. Romantic sex is different and requires a sincere connection with someone. The act of having casual sex does not diminish the meaning of later romantic sex. In your opinion, which is demonstrably wrong (IMO). your opinion is showing your insecurity. Nope, that's your confirmation bias. If your worldview is so easily threatened by those that disagree with it who is "insecure" here exactly? your n count was 20 something I've had some "flings" but the bulk…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:57 PM
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HV is somewhat subjective, but objectively they meet the 666 rule easily, and then some. They're the two richest men on the entire planet, after all. they're parasites extracting wealth from workers Communist drivel. That wealth would not exist without them, they created it. But sure, start your own business and do better then. Give it all away equally to the workers, or better yet to your oh-so-benevolent-and-wise government! At least you'll have the moral high-ground while the government steal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:13 PM
1

You're right to say that the opposite sex determines what is HV, yes. Obviously market demand is dictated by the buyer, not the supplier. But when men tell you our criteria for HVW (low n-count, pleasant/agreeable, feminine & submissive, etc.) you also disagree. And men do "get" that women say that kindness and empathy, etc., is most important, but we don't see women behaving accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:56 PM
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Step-dads are usually HVM, seeing as they meet the basic requirement of having care and compassion for children. No, they are betas and and literally cucks. Step-dads are the genetic "losers" whereas the biological fathers are the genetic "winners." This is not my opinion BTW, it's basic biology. Why do men believe this? This is so delusional, lol. Because seeing is believing. I'm living proof that HVM in their late 30's / early 40's can easily get attractive women in their mid-late 20's, and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:51 PM
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Yes. I do not believe in "casual sex." The physical act of love, which creates human life and bonds people deeper than anything else in the known universe...is not "casual" in any respects. Any woman that treats sex that way is a hard NO for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:38 PM
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Why, because of the premise of it being due to sexual inexperience and/or insecurity? Well, here's the thing: that's a false premise, at least for me. "Should not" or "should" is extremely subjective. You don't get to say "it's because of this or that" for anyone but yourself, nor do I. Personally, I don't want a woman that is used/damaged goods, simple as. Obviously looking for a virgin is unreasonable unless you're quite young (and I'm not, ha), but at the same time expecting a high n-count wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:12 PM
2

Prostitutes are popular because sex is popular and it’s the easy option. “Repulsed” might be too strong of a word, but majority of men don’t want to even date an OnlyFans “model,” let alone consider a relationship with one. Men have been conquerors and explorers for the entirety of human history. I think that has something to do with it. We also don’t want used (and often damaged) “goods.” And yeah, I’m sure insecurity plays a big part for some men but it’s disingenuous on its face to just say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:50 AM
2

20-something. If that’s low (or high) I’m fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:45 AM
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It’s always relevant to topics in this sub. If feminism wants to be perceived by men in a positive light then it needs a major image change, but I assume even the mention of that is offensive, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:02 AM
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Interesting, thanks. This is the first I’ve ever heard of feminism advocating for anything that would benefit men, usually it’s the opposite. If it’s actually for equal rights of all adults regardless of gender it seems a new movement is needed because MRAs and feminists sure seem to hate each other!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:58 AM
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It’s not conditioned or learned, it is innate. The only social conditioning is being done by feminism, that it’s supposedly “bad” to slut-shame. Women do plenty of that anyhow. And that is why most men don’t speak on it IRL, myself excluded. IDGAF 😚
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:53 AM
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This bullshit again, lol. So predictable and laughably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:49 AM
4

This makes sense, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:46 AM
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Because liberal men are a bunch of pussies that apologize to women for even existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:41 AM
1

For once I agree with you, lol ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:57 PM
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In its roots feminism was positive, and I am 100% for actual equality, TBC. The problem AFAICT is that modern feminism is no longer about equality, but rather about superiority over men. Angry feminists are bitter towards men and seem to want revenge on the "patriarchy" (which isn't a thing, BTW). Perhaps it's unfair to lump reasonable feminists in with them, but their voices are the loudest. Moreover, when I have dated feminists I found that their attitude towards men in general poisoned the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:44 PM
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I hate that a lot of people minimize the job of a housewife and validate it only when there are young kids Didn't mean to do that, TBC. I just meant to say that a woman that is lazy and content with doing nothing all day is unattractive.
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/22 05:34 PM
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Should be, yes. The issue with feminism is that it can and does give women an adversarial attitude towards men, thus it's misdirected at their partners. You can't have a negative view of the opposite sex without it impacting your personal relationships, and yes, RP men included.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:12 PM
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It’s gaining popularity for sure. Men are getting tired of the bullshit.
/r/newTRP09/02/22 04:03 AM
1

Yes, but feminists do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:47 AM
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You’re right, a relationship that is adversarial is doomed. That’s why feminism is bad for both genders in romantic relationships: when men and women compete someone must lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:45 AM
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Hedonism leads to pleasure, but not happiness. Love, friendship, making time for your hobbies, enjoying your work…these are what lead to happiness. I spent years figuring this out. Human interaction is the most important part of being happy IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:41 AM
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That’s totally reasonable and I can agree, especially if the mother is homeschooling the kids. Mostly I just wouldn’t be ok with having a woman that is lazy and doesn’t want more out of life. BTW, I don’t at all mean to say that SAHMs are lazy, just the opposite. I respect them completely and wish more women could and would do it! My buddy’s wife just quit her Engineering job to be a SAHM - I think it’s the right thing to do. They have 3 young kids and that time is so precious and short.
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/22 03:31 AM
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If I may add: Laziness and being entitled is unattractive. I am engaged to my dream woman. Yes, I am going to 100% financially support her (us) while she’s pregnant, having our kids, and until our youngest kid is preschool age, but then she’s going back to work. Her decision, not mine. Here’s the thing: she wants to work. She is a business owner and loves what she does. I find this and her financial independence very attractive, personality. I want a partner, not a dependent. Now of course mothe…
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/22 01:57 AM
2

All TRP does is weaponize it against women. Having knowledge of something does not equal exploiting people with said knowledge. Have you read the book "The 48 Laws of Power" by Robert Greene? Same concept. Just because you're know how to make a weapon (or how it works) doesn't mean you go out and use it on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:53 PM
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I can’t help but feel everyone is a crab in a bucket and they hate seeing anyone happier than them for any reason It's ego. They're assuming they're right and you're "wrong" for accepting your life as it is. In actuality they are wrong for pushing their idea of happiness on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:40 PM
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True, and that's why Blue Pill is the default. Numb out on Netflix after long day at your boring job. Have some booze, smoke some weed, eat some shitty food that's slowly poisoning you. Crank one out and go to bed. Rinse & repeat...until you die. And yeah, I'm speaking from experience. Most people in the west are lazy, entitled, and most of all, complacent. And that's all fine and well if you're actually happy, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the many people...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:04 PM
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Connection Community It's all available at the touch of a finger It's all fake though. People are generally unhappy AF these days. What changed is people are not connecting IRL as much anymore. :\
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:49 PM
5

I was a liberal 5 years ago and more and more I feel myself becoming a libertarian conservative. Welcome, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:57 PM
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Not mate guarding does not equal letting your woman flirt with other guys. Exactly this. Allow zero disrespect from her. If your woman is flirting with other men then your turn is over - next her. The key is in knowing the difference between flirting/disrespect and merely talking to another man...some guys hold the reins too tight, others not tight enough. Best to err on the side of the later (less controlling) IMO. And obviously you can't control what other men do, but can control how you react…
/r/TheRedPill08/02/22 01:01 AM
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Lol, I assume he meant more like "From Dusk Till Dawn" Salma
/r/TheRedPill08/02/22 12:49 AM
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Depends on if I have kids with Betty or not. To your point, if it was early-mid 90's Salma Hayek it'd be extremely tempting, but I couldn't live with myself if I abandoned my kids...so no.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/22 12:47 AM
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One was a virgin but has an active OF account where she posts vids of her sticking bananas up her ass This sub has officially jumped the fucking shark, lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:57 PM
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Exactly, lol. I read this title and thought to myself, "FFS, we getting waaaay too far out now. This isn't a hypothetical, it's never-never land fairytale world."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:56 PM
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Plenty of RP men already are, they just don't advertise that they are RP. There are also men whose beliefs and attitudes align with TRP even though they've never even heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:50 PM
1

Sad but true, yeah :/
/r/newTRP07/02/22 10:09 PM
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TRP does not say “women always cheat, so treat them like shit.” TRP basically says to improve yourself to get the best outcome, but also plan for the worst and know the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:20 PM
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^ copium
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:45 PM
3

Yep, everyone’s a badass online. No wonder why RP is so misunderstood and misrepresented.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:44 PM
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You’re confusing PUAs with actual RP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:43 PM
2

Based and Godpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:40 PM
19

So you admit that feminists are low-value women, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 02:30 PM
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I don't advertise it, but I answer questions if/when my friends ask. Like if the topic of porn comes up. "I don't watch it, and I don't jerk off" is met with "Dude, that's crazy....why?!" I don't tell anyone how to live, just what works for me, again, if they ask. Also, FFS **do not** tell ANY women you are Red Pilled IRL. 100% of them do not understand and will think you're a "misogynist" lol
/r/newTRP07/02/22 05:21 AM
3

Exactly right. Also they won't believe it because it's "easier" to just stay plugged in and numbed out (blue pill).
/r/newTRP07/02/22 05:18 AM
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This, but also I don't associate with weakass dudes. They will drag you down.
/r/newTRP07/02/22 05:17 AM
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Do you want to attract them? I'm not really seeing that you do by your comments here. If you believe you are doomed then you are. Start by trying to cultivate an abundance mindset instead of a scarcity one. I can only speak for myself. My experience has been that I've gotten out of life what I've put into it, but I've seen enough to know that this does work for others as well...but only you can make this true (or false) for yourself. Again, never, ever underestimate the power of belief. It can l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:40 PM
1

You absolutely nailed it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:03 PM
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You are assuming that men are saying hypergamy is negative or wrong and that women should change - we are not. We just accept this as a fact of life. TRP repeatedly tells men to accept hypergamy and do better. Some men drop out and go MGTOW instead if they feel it’s impossible and/or not worth it. ”God give me the strength to change what I am able to, the ability accept what I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:54 PM
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Good example here. I loved my last partner and she was a perfect 10 in my eyes and I never once even came remotely close to cheating on her in the 10 years we were together…. But had she given me permission to fuck other women, or wanted to bring a 3rd woman into the bedroom would I have done it? Absolutely. Base instinct can be and is overruled for the good of the relationship, but let’s not pretend it doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:43 PM
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It’s like 52/48% male/female in Denver, CO. Hardly a landslide, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:40 PM
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…I’ll leave the characteristics of AWALT for someone else to post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:33 PM
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I find AWALT and AMALT to be a bit too oversimplified or black and white to be accurate, but it’s a decent starting point. At the very least it’s better than nothing… The thing is, patterns exist, hard data exists, studies exist. The whole “everyone is different” excuse is a lazy, bullshit cop-out that is powered by fairy dust. If that’s true then why even bother trying to understand human behavior/nature? If it’s so unknowable and mystical…..but it isn’t. No, you aren’t that special or unique. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:30 PM
1

You attract what you are, not what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:19 PM
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You will get out of life what you expect from it, so if you expect to fail don't be surprised when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:57 PM
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The can of biscuits analogy killed me, lol 😂
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 06:41 AM
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I’m happy for you and don’t mean to be insulting at all, it’s just my take on the subject. How you treat your partner is extremely important, I agree.
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 02:06 AM
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You are absolutely right, and this is a huge (no pun intended) part of what TRP for men calls “the wall.” And yes it’s calloused, perhaps even cruel, but for better or worse there is plenty of truth to it.
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/22 02:04 AM
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I work in tech and this is accurate. It’s extremely male dominated. They’re always advocating for women to join tech, but I see very few coming in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:54 AM
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Reading comments like yours here gives me hope in humanity. Seriously, thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/22 08:28 PM
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What men say: “We like thicc women.” (big boobs and butts, yet small-waisted) —vs— What women & society hear: “Men like fat women.” For the record, the vast majority of men are NOT attracted to fat women. Similarly, almost any man that is with a fat woman simply cannot do better. Of course “fat” is somewhat subjective, but we all get the picture. Yes, it’s harsh but it’s the truth.
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/22 08:20 PM
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Most reasonable men are pro-reality. The evil “patriarchy” doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:20 PM
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Causal sex = she belongs to the streets There is no such thing as “casual” sex IMO. If she has done that or thinks it is even remotely acceptable behavior then I’m not getting into a relationship with her. Anything of high value is not given away easily. Past performance doesn’t guarantee future success, but it can damn sure predict failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:12 PM
1

Absolutely based, my man 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:06 PM
3

This Is SPARTA!!! Oh wait, that’s 300. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:04 PM
1

Absolutely this ^
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:03 PM
1

Honestly, it’s hard to quantify this sort of thing, so I just go with my gut: if it feels like “too much” I don’t commit to her, if it feels adequately low, I do. But again, it’s more about “is she broken or not,” less about a number. That said…. Emotionally and mentally healthy women I’ve dated: less than 10, some less than 5. ~vs~ Alcoholic ex-stripper with extreme daddy issues: she said it was about 80. There IS a correlation and anyone other who says otherwise is in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:56 PM
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I’m happy in America and generally against socialist pipe-dreams. My comment was for the person that was espousing the glories of Scandinavian countries where everyone is white and distant cousins.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:49 AM
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Yeah, also broke my GFs hymen at 19. They are most certainly not a “myth.” Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:44 AM
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^ THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:50 PM
3

The Nordic Model countries take almost no one in, BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:49 PM
3

meritocracy is real Honest question: how is it not real currently?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:56 PM
5

Which is why you have to be extremely careful who you procreate with!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:13 AM
3

She’ll start thinking of you more like a friend if you text too much anyhow. Just tell her you’re busy and don’t like texting back and forth, but can FaceTime if she wants. Keep those short too IMO. Two weeks isn’t long at all
/r/newTRP04/02/22 04:59 AM
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No kids. Colorado, US
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:55 AM
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They don’t accept second best because they’re empathetic, lol. Nothing against step-dads, but we’re lying if we’re saying they are usually HVM. No, a successful, attractive man in his late 30s or early 40s can still land a hot woman with no kids in her mid-late 20s. He only accepts another man’s kids if he has no better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:53 AM
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Smart man!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:48 AM
3

Absolutely this. I was a pussy hound in my 20s (and was in an indie rock band, so did pretty well), married at 30…and years later now that I’m single again I have clarity and restraint I never had before. Makes raising your standards a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:47 AM
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Swing and a miss. It’s because no HVM is going to seriously date or get in a LTR with a single mom. Life is too short to raise another man’s kid/s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:44 AM
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As a man that’s been divorced (but not “divorce raped”), I can personally attest to this, yes. She made about half what I did at the time, but it wasn’t that bad. Most painful part financially was splitting the equity in the house (about $100k for her, a refi and higher monthly mortgage payment for me), but I kept the house so I can’t complain. My takeaway: if your wife is a housewife/SAHM you damn sure better not get divorced. And just as a woman can have her own emergency funds/assets out of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:25 AM
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Links to the archive.is site are all dead, FYI.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/22 06:46 PM
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That’s what I’m saying, you really don’t have a choice. Most men can physically overpower women, and most women can weaponize sex. Power imbalances always have existed between the sexes and always will. I don’t see this as a negative or a positive, but rather just the way things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:59 AM
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Egalitarianism is a tiresome charade IMO, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:31 PM
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Who said anything about “want” though? No, this is just the natural order of things. You’re assuming I am for the power imbalance being in favor of men, but I never said that. There are negatives that come along with power, always.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:28 PM
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We’re just making generalizations here, yes. Of course it goes without saying we don’t really know each other… But anyhow, why would would one person naturally having more power in a relationship make them an “asshole.” I really don’t think it would, at least it’s far from obligatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:09 PM
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I run my own businesses. Then you can make all the money you're able to, congrats. I'm being 100% serious and sincere, BTW. I also run my own business, but it's just a side-hustle as of now. Anyhow look, I'm not here to piss in anyone's cheerios in particular. I'm not a woman, I don't really know what they like. However, from all that's I've seen/read/lived, I can't imagine most women are into the idea of their man making less than them and doing more housework than they do...but if it works for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:49 AM
2

I've seen/heard enough to share your sentiment of /r/FDS. The internet tends to polarize and create echo-chambers, Reddit being one of, if not the biggest offender. Probably why I find this sub at least somewhat palatable, ha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:37 AM
2

Glad someone else here gets it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:27 AM
1

Easy with the assumptions there. It's just Reddit, relax. Why are you here then? You seem....angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:27 AM
3

Yep, it's this. ^ Women, you should understand that men put you into two categories if we're having sex with you: serious or "just fun" If you want to be in the "serious" category you have to offer more than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:24 AM
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Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman? Absolutely, without question. ...but partaking in casual sex with lots of women prior? A.) The two are not mutually exclusive for men. As unfair as it may sound, men are generally much better at decoupling emotion from sex, so have a easier time racking up a "high" (see point B) N-number, then settling down and successfully pair-bonding. B.) You'd need to put a number or at least a range on "lots," but this is also a "yes" for most (non-r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:20 AM
2

You're a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:10 AM
2

Hey, thanks. I swear some of us in this sub are at least a tiny bit happy, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:10 AM
1

I wouldn’t know. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:09 AM
0

Of course. What else could it be based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:04 AM
2

If you ask any man that is an authority on it (a blogger/author like Rollo Tomassi) and not just some random dude on Reddit they’d tell you that RP does not hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:02 AM
1

Lol, yep
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:00 AM
1

Also there are tons of women that find celebrities in their 40s to be very attractive. Moreover, I see your point, but biological programming persists even when the driving need has become obsolete. If that were not true then women would be attracted to men that are shorter just as much as men that are taller… But they are not, despite the fact that they don’t really need to be “protected” anymore because society is (more or less) civilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:00 AM
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Link to a scientific study about younger men supposedly having “healthier” sperm? I’ve looked and only found one study and they concluded that only older men from poorer communities show any difference from younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:56 AM
2

That’s true. We just use generalities because they work and are true…in general. But yes, not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:54 AM
1

Everything you listed under “what actually helps” is in fact advocated for in TRP, with the one exception of befriending women, which is for white-knights and “nice guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:52 AM
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Lay off the blue pills, bud. “Fragile masculinity”, loll. Check the stats on women leaving their man once they make more money than him. Knowledge never killed anyone, but ignorance sure has.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:32 AM
1

Facebook dating, believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:28 AM
3

RP is more commonly associated with trad than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:28 AM
0

And some straight dudes like being pegged. Point is they’re in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:25 AM
1

Yep, it tracks. I got divorced at 38, never dated a woman older than 32. My fiancé (she’s 28) was also married before, but neither of us had kids. We both want kids and will have them together now. We got really lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:23 AM
3

Well, not with that attitude you’re not. Seriously though, hope you’re alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:05 AM
2

It’s not about reciprocity. Men, regardless of their own age, are most attracted to women in their 20s because we are biologically hardwired to reproduce. Women in their mid 40s can’t make babies, so are less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:56 AM
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I'll admit you're at least partially right. RP is for sure more tailored towards dudes that just want to get laid, although the concepts of TRP are nonetheless true IME. Information is just what you do with it, after all... Specifically, a RP critique I have: the whole "marriage is RP on hard-mode" concept seems inaccurate to me, like they have it backwards. I've been married and spun-plates (not at the same time, FFS) - the later is definitely harder. 50% of marriages succeed...so are the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:01 PM
2

Again, that's black pill, not RP. How many times do we have to go over this...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:48 PM
-1

Aren't modern women just lazy fuckers? Could be, and the equality thing is just a copout. Regardless, the women shrieking about the horrors of housework are almost always in the "I don't need no man" club (which is a self-fulfilling prophecy), so the point becomes moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:45 PM
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That's fine and reasonable. I make 2x what my fiancé does, so once we're living together I'll expect her (edit: yes, she has agreed to) to do 2x the housework and cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:40 PM
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The man isn't required to make more money and the woman isn't required to do most of the house work. Lemme make sure I got this: he makes less than you and stays home and sweeps, and mops and shit....and you are attracted to him and respect him?! GTFOH You can say you're for equality all day, and that's fine....but you are straight up lying if you say women find this "mister mom" bullshit attractive in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:38 PM
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But if one of us HAD to go deal with it it would most probably be me RIP, hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:28 PM
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Bro, it's an analogy. Point is, men and women are very obviously NOT equal and it's fucking silly to pretend like they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:28 PM
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Me and my partner are equals Lesbians? Otherwise you're definitely not...might not even be true of two lesbians, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:21 PM
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Yes, he's a natural "alpha." Also, one can be unconsciously RP. In fact my boomer father is, as was his father, and my grandpa on my mom's side. My grandfathers probably died before the RP was even a mere concept, and my dad has sure AF has never even heard of it, much less studied it, lol. Think about it: the concept of the "evil patriarchy" was simply not a thing in their age. Masculinity was praised, not demonized. Gender roles were more clearly defined and enforced, being a man was just the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:18 PM
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Not sure that’s true: /r/RedPillWomen I think they just want more trad-type guys that are RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:51 PM
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36-24-36 and it was a Funk/Soul song by Commodores, but yes. Sorry, Redditor moment. ;P #Actually
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:25 PM
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Long distance = automatic no IMO.
/r/newTRP29/01/22 05:12 AM
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Should I just lie to her, but keep my plates on the side? No, I wouldn't. Relationships built on dishonesty are doomed to fail. Better to just not start one at all if that's how it would go. I have the highest connection with the 9.5 but I don’t want to develop oneitis. Ask yourself: do you want a LTR with her, or do you want to bang other girls....what you do YOU really want? Don't overthink it, just decide what you want and go after it. That's true alpha behavior.
/r/newTRP28/01/22 08:54 PM
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Seriously though, u/grandmapurp is absolutely right. Think about it: "peacocking" would not work if this weren't true. And demonstrating value in a genuine and authentic way is even more attractive I'd say, because peacocking can be (and I'd say often is) seen as bullshit or pretension. When I was on stage killing it I was not doing it to get girls, that was just a nice side effect that it had. Hell, this is even true for men! Take early 90's Bjork or Tori Amos. Sure, both are pretty enough off …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:21 PM
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https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/web1\_Elsa-and-Will-Oldham-by-Christian-Hansen-mrez.jpeg She must give great head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:13 PM
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^ I was in a decently successful indie band for 10 years and yes, it’s this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:02 PM
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Best of luck, bro!
/r/newTRP25/01/22 08:39 PM
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It makes me somewhat insecure and I hate not having control over logistics. Let's not sugarcoat it: this is a turnoff for most women. It can and will prevent you from closing. You are 30 years old. Get your own place.
/r/newTRP25/01/22 03:33 AM
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That fact that all men don't know already this is astounding to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:48 PM
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Good question, and I don’t know, sorry. I’ve never upgraded a plate to LTR.
/r/newTRP23/01/22 05:40 PM
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TRP can do that sometimes.
/r/newTRP23/01/22 12:16 AM
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Remember gents, if she's willing to let you bang her without being her BF then she's (probably) willing to do that with other guys as well when you're not around. Gotta decide if you're ok with that or not. "She's not yours, it's just your turn."
/r/newTRP22/01/22 09:57 PM
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Traditions of marriage, family and aversion to vice is a difficult life to maintain. I disagree. It's easy to do IF that's what you really and truly want. If, even in just the back of your mind, you think you're missing out on having a good time, boozing out at bars/clubs, having casual sex, then yeah, it's going to feel labored and unnatural. They see it as oppressive and unfun, evil even seeing it as slavery. Who, liberals? Goes back to the FOMO idea. If you're free in your choice then you are…
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/22 07:44 PM
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Male RP strategy is incompatible with conservatism; there is no conservatism that I am aware of which endorses casual sex, avoiding marriage, avoiding children, treating women as disposable. True, and it's a shame. All those things ultimately leave a man empty, lonely, and bitter IMHO (and I'm speaking from experience). As a RP guy, I fully understand the aversion to marriage and kids - i.e. the risks that are taken on with marriage and children, but all of life is risk...you just need to decide…
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/22 07:36 PM
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“Women don’t care about your struggles, they hang out at the finish line and pick the winner.” -Richard Cooper
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:11 PM
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many men are not ready to offer the type of relationships that are worthwhile until they are almost 30 anyway! I'd even say 35 or 40. The age has been pushed up in the last couple of decades.
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/22 06:17 PM
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shitholes like ukraine, thailand, russia Honest question from an American (US'ian): why is the Ukraine or Russia a "shithole" country in your opinion? I've heard very, very good things about the women from both of these countries and they are obviously attractive.
/r/newTRP18/01/22 10:17 PM
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I dated a gold digger here in Colorado, USA. And she wasn't poor at all, but rather just lazy and wanted a sugar daddy. Just one example, but if you watch stuff like Fresh n Fit vids it seems there are plenty of insta-thots that get flown out to exotic locations on private jets and shit. Obviously average dudes can't compete with that.
/r/newTRP18/01/22 10:15 PM
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Words are cheap. The actions of feminists consistently demonstrate that it's not about equality. When that stops being the case then it will stop being a question. Did you see any feminists in favor of the female military draft? Didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:18 PM
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Boomers > coomers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:11 PM
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I'm not an expert and it's not my field of study, but it is yours either? Again, the point is that porn is obviously not helping. It doesn't take a PhD to realize that porn and jerking off is instant gratification. When it's that vs. going out in the real world and pursing women, actually putting in the work, most men are going to take the easy way out. Feel free to prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:59 PM
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Go ahead and prove me wrong then, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:53 PM
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If it were still about equality (and not superiority) like it was at its origin I can guarantee you LOTS more men would support feminism, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:47 PM
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Be gone, coomer! loll
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:45 AM
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I'd sooner be a rock-climbing monk than move back east. West is BEST, baby!! ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:44 AM
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Sexual variety is great and is man's biological imperative sure, but I found it not to be worth it. When I was single I was hooking up with 2-3 women a month, but the hottest one would be a 7 or maaaybe an 8 if was lucky....and there were for sure some 6s in there, although I tried to make that my rock bottom. IMO it's preferable to have a hot wife or GF, so long as her libido matches yours. Less sexual variety sure, but you will have more frequent sex, and better sex too actually because the tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:42 AM
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Huh? Dudes are for sure playing video games and watching porn more now than ever before. Now, I don't know if that's contributing to the rise of male sexlessness, but I'd say it sure AF isn't helping things...with sex or anything else in their lives. RP is absolutely anti-porn and (unofficially, at least IMHO) anti-video games too for these reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:34 AM
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Inter-mural softball
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:30 AM
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Generally true, but there is such a thing as "Alpha Bux" men. Yes, they are probably just as rare as "unicorn" women (no, not the peggers, FFS. The good kind), but they nonetheless do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:20 AM
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And that tracks, seeing as how men are more sexually visual than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:17 AM
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What are you, 90?! Who uses this as any kind of reference, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:14 AM
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1000% this!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:45 PM
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I have the opposite of a dominant personality. Then you are feminine, which is attractive to most men. However, advertising that you are "confident" (even though actually a positive) can and will give the impression that you are disagreeable, dominant, etc....masculine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:42 PM
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I don't think confidence itself is necessarily a masculine trait, but I'd say an open display of it...typically is. Said display can be done in a tactful or distasteful way, for both men and women. Either way, you're going to see more of it from men. ...but moreover, I've just seen many, many more confident men than women in the 4 decades I've been alive. I think women second-guess themselves much more often than men do. A quick google search turned up articles on "the confidence gap," but also …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:35 PM
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u/errrright, Slightly off-topic, what is "white pill"...?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:28 PM
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Women acting like men -and- women believing they are superior to men. Both are reasons why so many men hate modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:25 PM
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And to further expand on that, this is the main reason why men hate feminism. It’s not so much the equal rights aspect that we’re concerned about… it’s the attitude changes it brings about in women. I.E acting like men. LOUDER!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:23 PM
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You can disagree, but the science is pretty clear on this subject TMK.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:27 PM
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Not exactly true. Men are naturally more aggressive and dominant than women because of testosterone. In the hypothetical situation here women would be just like men if testosterone levels were also flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:13 PM
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I agree with the rest, but 5” taller than his girl seems a bit arbitrary IMO. I’m 6’0 and my lady is 5’9 and it works well. I think you just need to be taller than her, but even if just by a little bit I can’t see how it matters much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:01 PM
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Since we’re honest on this sub: Being a single mom without a doubt is a huge negative for the majority of HVM. Being older is also a negative. Put those two things together and you’ve effectively eliminated any men that want their own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:47 PM
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Thank you! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:56 PM
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I’m 40 and my fiancé is 28. We plan on having our first kid next year. Younger for me would’ve perhaps been better, but life just didn’t work out that way. Regardless, I don’t harbor regret in my life, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:08 PM
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I feel like if I talked to a therapist they wouldn’t understand. I think you do need a counselor, actually. It's their job. It sounds like you don't love yourself enough. Best of luck, OP.
/r/newTRP15/01/22 12:09 AM
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His character in Girls is the most pathetic beta ever, haha. Also that show is complete shite, but you know, just my opinion!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:40 PM
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It’s being treated like a woman by a woman that is playing a masculine role. So I’d say yes, TRP advises against it. However, work that angle if you want, more power to you. I can’t imagine most women want this kind of dynamic, but to each their own.
/r/newTRP14/01/22 04:12 PM
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Yeah, stop doing this, OP. Guys that look for women as "friends" are betas, white-knights, and male feminists. It's a backdoor tactic into sex that rarely ever works, and if it does it's not worth it.
/r/newTRP13/01/22 06:48 PM
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If you want to bone a sugar momma or a cougar, you do you, but it’s just not for me.
/r/newTRP13/01/22 12:45 AM
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push me into a more LTR commitment If you let this happen I can pretty much guarantee you'll regret it. We're not you though. Good luck.
/r/newTRP08/01/22 10:34 PM
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Do you know what TRP is? Because it sure doesn't sound like you do. You cannot maintain frame like like OP is doing. He is 100% in her frame.
/r/newTRP08/01/22 10:31 PM
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I can't see this working as a LTR. She's a lawyer and you're.....not. Women date up, not down. She's effectively playing the role of the "man" in the relationship, providing for you. I would hate that, personally. I require my woman to be feminine and submissive. She sounds like the opposite. My 2c: Just have fun with her, nothing more.
/r/newTRP08/01/22 10:29 PM
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I know trp generally advise against SMs Not generally, always. Fine for a hookup, but women are pretty much never okay with a FWB situation longterm. Get ready to bail because your days are numbered on this IMO.
/r/newTRP08/01/22 10:20 PM
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I’ve had sex with plenty of married women Great way to end up with a bullet in your head. Fucking dumbass, you're a disgrace to your fellow man.
/r/askTRP08/01/22 10:14 PM
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It's cultural for sure, and some western countries are better than others. For example, Slavic women (eastern Europe) and MUCH better than American ones, in general.
/r/askTRP08/01/22 10:11 PM
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The only thing that has been "proven" here is that you know exactly fuckall about his culture.
/r/askTRP08/01/22 10:09 PM
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^ this. Women that are not from Western countries don't seem to suffer from these issues, or at least not as much. However, the underlying biological imperatives like hypergamy are true of all women....but again, societally reinforced or repressed differently throughout the world.
/r/askTRP08/01/22 10:07 PM
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Extremely hard agree. Sorry guys, but Forums.red/i/askTRP is a garbage site. Maybe get some UX and UI people to fix and it'll be worthwhile.
/r/askTRP08/01/22 10:05 PM
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Not sure about him being a bodybuilder. I know he was a musician in his younger life.
/r/askTRP08/01/22 10:00 PM
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I'm in a similar position, except I'm 40 and she's 27. All of life is calculated risk. If you choose not to marry and have children, you risk having major regret later in life. Sure, plenty of RP'ers don't want kids, but I'm not talking about them. If you chose to marry and have kids, you risk divorce and all that comes with it. Myself, I'm getting a prenup and going with the later because I really want to have my own kids. My GF has no kids and very much wants to have my kids, BTW.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/22 05:21 PM
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extremely defeatist You can say that, or you can say realistic. That's why the concept of "Red Pill rage" exists as step 1, the intro to RP. It's all perception, but perception is reality... Personally, I've lived long enough to find it's best not to battle things I cannot personally change. I've been in shit jobs and had shit girlfriends. In both cases I fixed the situation by removing myself from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 12:56 AM
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she wouldn't even go down two steps to be with me while I am expected to go down 20. Don't get mad at women for being hypergamous, it's just who they are. "The Red Pill isn’t about making a man hate women. It’s about educating a man so he won’t hate women for what they can never be to him." - Rollo Tomassi, author of "The Rational Male"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:37 PM
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IMHO yes, women ideally want a man that's sexually attractive and a good provider for marriage ("alpha bucks"), hence the whole "alpha fucks vs. beta bucks" concept. They want the alpha more when they're younger, the beta more when they're older... One could probably apply this same thought process to men that want kids: they chase the hot "Stacy" when they're younger, the more stable woman when they are older and want to settle down. I think the biological urge for "nesting" is stronger in wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:09 PM
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Slut-shaming has always existed in humans and always will because of our mate-guarding instincts. And that's not even getting into how territorial men are. Also, many men are "pro slut" insofar as they want to have sex with them....but that's as far as it goes. Modern women see this then seem to think that men don't differentiate between "would bang" and "would marry," but in the overwhelming amount of cases, men absolutely do put women into these two different categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:37 PM
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Which isn't to say that a man shouldn't know how to be open, emotional, or expressive. He should, otherwise you get repression which is very unhealthy. Right, I meant this. I'm not naïve enough to think that women want an emotional man, and they sure AF don't want a turbulent one. Expressiveness is good, but really only when the emotions are positive.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/21 10:56 PM
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OP, I feel for you on this. My ex-wife and I ultimately split because of this. She refused to have children because of her mental and emotional issues. Please get the help you need and try to stay positive and believe that you can get better (my ex did not). Best of luck.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/21 06:13 PM
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Vulnerability in a (partner) is attractive; dysfunction is not. I'd say this is actually true for both genders. I often see other RP men saying how women will leave you if you show any weakness, which I think there is a lot of truth to (at least for toxic women), but moreover I think it's what you said here.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/21 06:10 PM
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And most men have little standards at all I mean for a quick fuck, there is some truth to this. Not proud of it, but I've been "hoggin" a time or two, haha (and yes, I know this sounds horrible, but works as an example). ...but for a relationship men absolutely have standards (at least high-value men do). She better be a very pleasant 8 or I'm out! Also overly career obsessed and/or angry feminists = automatic hard pass. IMHO the whole "be his peace" thing is what has been lost most with modern …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:03 PM
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I'm sure way too much of it is, but the point is that it's not supposed to be! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:43 PM
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Umm, I would always drink coffee smoke on my morning commute...back when I drove into an office....and smoked. Don't see how that one's a big deal, personally. ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:42 PM
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I'd wager to say your experience with friendships has been the opposite of most men, but that's of course fine. I'm glad you have a good female friend (or friends). Personally, my male friends come at an emotional net positive, and by a lot. At any rate, I'm just here to generalize about most men's experiences from a (mostly) RP perspective, not to necessarily give accounts my own. Even though I am (again, mostly) RP I don't actually believe in "AWALT" and know that there are kind, giving, wonde…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:41 AM
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Why are you only talking about intersexual relations when it comes to platonic friendship? Because that's the topic of the post: "Do men value 'sexual intimacy' over all other forms of intimacy?" that kind of relationship with a women upsets you It doesn't "upset me" lol, I just see it for what it usually is: a waste of my resources. I would encourage all heterosexual men to use the same line of reasoning - am I getting a return on my investment in this relationship...is it reciprocal? Again, on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:26 AM
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Of course aesthetic is subjective, but we can make generalizations about the kind of women that get tattoos, and they are not good ones: impulsive, rabid feminist, high n-count, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:37 PM
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All of that is good, and we do want it, but sex still comes first on the list of priorities. She is having sex with some other man (or she has before, obviously), so by denying sex to this man she's signaling that he is less than. He is (at best) second place. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:25 PM
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I agree that loneliness is a pandemic for western men in 2021, but platonic "friendship" with women is not anything remotely close to a cure. If anything it makes the situation worse... Women take far more than they give in these supposed "friendships" with men, and I don't even mean just asking for errands, favors, money, etc. The emotional and mental toll of befriending women is obviously higher than it is for men. Typically these women are users and the men are beta simps that are waiting aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:19 PM
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High T in relationships now as a tool or excuse it stupid, women don’t care anymore and it will only get you bad results rather than good. What are you saying, that men should be less masculine in their relationships than they naturally are? If so, that's nonsense. I'm not going to try to be something I'm not, and I don't want my woman to do so either. I think you're conflating testosterone with the mythical and largely overblown bullshit known as "toxic masculinity," friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:12 PM
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Hard agree. Testosterone isn't compartmentalized to just your professional life or just your love life - it is applied to all areas of your life, or at least it should be. It is what makes you a man, as u/Playful_Art_5364 said. Why else would people that are biologically female start using it when they transition to become "male" (another topic, which I won't get into here, but still)? It makes them behave in a masculine way, naturally. There's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:08 PM
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In a word: YES
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:02 PM
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To each their own, I just don't care for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:43 PM
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That's fine, and I can even agree but, look at the data. Women DO leave men that earn less than them, so it's something that should be taken into consideration at the very least: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/upshot/when-wives-earn-more-than-husbands-neither-like-to-admit-it.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:18 AM
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This. I do not understand why women get so many tattoos now. They hook horrible IMO, especially on their arms or breasts! On her back or shoulder is fine, but it's like putting stickers on a Ferarri FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:05 AM
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Ya, I'm just giving you a hard time, lol. I'm sure you're smart enough to be sweet and submissive...when you're with the right man. You have a good night as well. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:18 AM
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Sounds like you’re the ladder. Good luck, lol *latter Pot meet kettle, haha. Here ya go: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/former-and-latter-usage#:\~:text=Former%20refers%20to%20something%20that,in%20a%20group%20of%20several.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:25 AM
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Healthy men don’t want to be the center of a woman’s life. Sure, but we want women that want to have kids with us. That means your career is at least going on pause for awhile. intelligence, high earners One of these things doesn't necessarily lead to the other, especially not for women since they go into fields where they make less. My GF is incredibly intelligent and speaks 4 languages fluently but makes about $30k/ yr less than I do because she works with special needs kids (and I work in tec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:11 AM
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Absolutely this. I used the filters in dating apps to avoid women with kids and it worked out just fine. I'm dating an amazing woman now that has no kids and wants to have kids with me! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:36 PM
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You're woman #2. Good luck, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:44 PM
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Absolutely this. I used the filters in dating apps to avoid women with kids and it worked out just fine. I'm dating an amazing woman now that has no kids and wants to have kids with me! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:59 PM
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I'm sure not all do, but his book "The Rational Male" is the quintessential RP book. It's pretty much TRP bible. Also, you're setting yourself up for unnecessary drama and bullshit if you're hiding the fact that you're seeing other women...but to each his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 07:47 PM
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Have you met women? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:00 AM
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Making demands and making it transactional: "Do this or that, or no sex for you."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:28 PM
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Per Rollo Tomassi (and other's I've read) this is actually not RP behavior. You should let your "plates" know that you are not exclusive with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:51 PM
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Maybe it's just women talking dumb bullshit about being a "goddess" then, but I swear to fuck some of them seem to believe. it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:15 AM
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Lol, no. Lots of simps and gold-diggers in the world, unfortunately. They can have each other and be miserable though, it serves them right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:13 AM
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By a simp, ya. They can have each other. She's toxic AF and has the emotional maturity of a 16 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:11 AM
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aren‘t red pill men only getting in shape and all that stuff to literally get the maximum amount of pussy out of women? Per TRP maxims, no. You will fail if you do. Mindset is everything. https://youtu.be/9d7xMSauLdg
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:58 AM
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No, I wouldn't date a FDS type of woman since they are gold-diggers and manipulators. And even though I actually believe in equal rights and treatment for all humans, I don't date self-proclaimed feminists either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:24 PM
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I dated a girl that was a solid 8, but the worst gold-digger I have ever met in my life. She was very cute and fun, but her "pretty privilege" was off the fucking charts. She wasn't really a 10 but good luck ever convincing her otherwise. Some of the things she told me: - Expected to never have to work and for her man to provide for her 100% and buy her _anything_ she wants at any time. - Supposedly "wants" kids, but doesn't actually want to be a mother or raise them (TF?!) Not exactly a FDS wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:22 PM
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The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children," Dolan explained. A puff piece from a women's fashion magazine with no credible source, lol. What utter bullshit. Here ya go: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america And the unhappiest profile?:- Female- 42 years old- Unmarried (and no children)- Household income under $100,000- In a professional position (doctor, lawyer, etc.) And another o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:04 PM
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I'm happy for you, u/Dapper_Art_8269. :) Adoration is very subjective and (IMHO) does not equal pedestalization. I adore my GF as well, but I do not pedestalize her - she is human, not a "goddess." If a man puts his woman on a pedestal then the relationship will fail. He loses his self-respect and she in turn loses respect for him. Also he has formed an idealized vision of her that is not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:57 PM
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Would blame society/ women for his problems. Literal opposite of TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:58 PM
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80/20 You mean Pareto principle? Don't date any guys that know anything about business then, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:53 PM
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The desire to be accepted is usually stronger than the desire to manipulate Or you're mistaken and those men just don't give a fuck what you think about them, so have no fear of being honest. Good luck dating the ones that are desperate for your approval though, I guess..?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:50 PM
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Someone who doesn't want marriage or a family Negative, I'm RP and do want this. Tons of traditional guys do. I also don't think of "me vs her" in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:46 PM
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Don't put women on a pedestal. Do you really want a man to pedestalize you....really? Think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:43 PM
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Interesting. That's pretty much where I land as a mostly RP guy: slightly unfavorable view of modern women (in the west) in general, but I deeply love, respect, and admire my (Russian immigrant) GF. My ex-wife was Puerto Rican and was also incredible. I'm old enough and have enough life experience to know that AWALT is not 100% true, but there is some truth to it. It's redactive and oversimplified to claim AWALT is 100% true, but it's naive and childish to say that women (and men) are just unkno…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:38 PM
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"feminism" I know multiple men that have never heard of TRP but still do not date self-proclaimed feminists because of...you know, the way they tend to be (not very feminine).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:25 PM
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^^^ THIS ^^^
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:19 PM
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My legit never going back into an office (unless I change jobs, but I have no plans to).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 06:33 PM
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As a "USian" I won't even disagree, and I can't help but wonder how much Facebook (and even Reddit) has contributed to worsening this divide. We already know that FB has been silently putting profits over the interest of the public, even though it came as a shock to no one. Ironically, even though we are literally overworked to death, the US really does have better economic opportunity than most other countries. I live in the southwest and many of my neighbors immigrated here from Mexico and sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:47 PM
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Literally *everyone* (in the US) is tired of being a wage slave. It was already under the surface, but the pandemic has really brought it to light now. People got the chance to take time off and breathe and are valuing their time more now....or they got lazy, who knows! I'm not here to take sides on that, but it's clearly happening. That's what this supposed "labor shortage" is all about: employers vs the workers. Personally it makes me glad I have a nice gig in tech where I can work from home a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:43 PM
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Booze and drugs still ruin mens lives too, but you're right.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/21 04:47 PM
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Lol, fair. I guess I mean being more "conservative" about most things in life then. I think we all know that RP = conservative vs. BP = liberal (in general).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:30 PM
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#ReadingIsHard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:27 PM
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True, my divorce is what led me to discover TRP. I don't believe in "bad knowledge" though, so I wouldn't want to go back. Simultaneously I think it's extremely important to question the validity and truth of everything you read. The things that resonated with me about TRP stuck, but others (like the topic of marriage) I am skeptical of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:25 PM
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Blue-pilled men...set goals based off of societal programming and not what actually would make them happy. That is predicated upon the belief that the two are at odds with each other, which is not always the case. There is a ton of value and wisdom in traditionalism, and that can't just be brushed off as "societal programming" IMO. It's also interesting to me that TRP takes a more traditional stance on pretty much everything else in life except marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:18 PM
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/u/Mrs_Drgree, I don't follow, please explain. There's nothing in the sub rules about this...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:12 PM
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humans are complex and you can't predict people's behavior because of their gender, and that different people have different tastes regardless of gender Why does this sub even exist then? We're all wasting our time here if that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:09 PM
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You disagree with RP, ok fine. Read it objectively then, from a generalized standpoint: Is it better to be (potentially) "right" and feel justified later, or to be (again, potentially) "happy," even if you are deluding yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:07 PM
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Yes, I suppose it's just about which stats one chooses to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:56 PM
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No offense, but this is a non-answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:55 PM
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Agree, people should do as they wish. Personally I'm tired of just pursuing sexual novelty, but granted I've been successfully doing so for almost all of my adult life (I'm 40).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:54 PM
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Good points, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:51 PM
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These Fresh and Fit vids are (IMO) largely just for entertainment purposes, but I like this one. It's relevant to the topic: https://youtu.be/\_i3ULeivLLU
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:48 PM
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Being single is not that bad. I'm not so sure: https://youtu.be/8KkKuTCFvzI
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:01 PM
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Yes, you're right. Finding middle ground is the key IMHO. There also has to be some trust established ASAP because if you think the person is just trying to trick you and get something from you (be it sex or commitment) then it will not work out. Sadly, I think that trust is hard to come by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:55 PM
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Again, I'm just speaking in generalities and offering an explanation of how many modern men feel (even those that aren't consciously RP). The reverse could be said too: women don't trust men to offer commitment after a ONS because they've been ghosted after having them before - that's also a rational conclusion, IMHO. But you can see how it puts men and women at odds with each other straightaway... When I date I am looking for a woman that is worth my time, attention, money, etc - one that is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:16 PM
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That's a bit hyperbolic, but here's the thing - plenty of women have had one-night stands, so he naturally assumes you are one of them. It's the logical thing to do since arguably most women have had ONS's. And it doesn't help that women frequently lie about this and their number either. OP is not one of them, and that's cool and all (really), but the trust has been broken at a societal level, so men as a whole do not feel it is deserved anymore, and as much as I dislike it personally, they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:35 PM
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The data exactly doesn't support that claim, TMK. I read that study and it only showed that there was any difference with older men from impoverished communities, such as Baltimore. There was no discernible difference between younger men and older men from middle and upper-class control groups. AFAICT it's just a false narrative that feminist/women are pushing, I guess to promote "fairness."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 06:55 PM
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Modern culture of feminism (at least in the West) is constantly telling them you're wrong, so they don't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:00 PM
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Why are you sorry? Are you under the impression I’m an ugly professional woman who wants you to pick me? No, it wasn't meant to be personal at all. I only said "sorry" because I realize that it seems "unfair" to the older, professional woman, but that's just how it is. Whether or not that's you is immaterial to the larger discussion. ​ Professional men typically prefer a woman with a similar drive. Ultimately for a relationship, yes. But initially for fun (sex), we don't care. Ideally the "fun" …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:57 PM
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You are right, but by my estimation Japan is a notable exception. Perhaps South Korea is similar, not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:36 PM
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Any words of advice? Yes: Avoid women that have "daddy issues." Find out what her relationship with her father is like, seriously. If it's bad or even lukewarm, bail. Also, avoid Instagram thots / attention whores, overly needy/insecure women, etc. Work on yourself and get counseling/therapy if you need it. Remember, we don't attract what we "want," we attract what we ARE.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:51 PM
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Absolutely! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:11 PM
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A lot of people (idk about most) just go to work, then go home to their family (or pets). No social interaction Sadly, I think this is largely an American thing. :( At least for the sake of the rest of the world I hope it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:09 PM
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Absolutely this, and it's even true for my friends in their 20's. It's even true for my youngest friend, and he's only 21. It's worth noting that all my friends are professional/career oriented types, and/or they are married and/or have kids. Men do have close friends, it's just that we don't see each other very often, or even talk that often. We assume that each of us are all good, respectively, unless one of them reaches out. For me personally, my brother is my closest male friend and confidan…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:06 PM
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I’m not sure there is any evidence that career women are less likely to be pleasant. There actually is: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america And the unhappiest profile?: Female 42 years old Unmarried (and no children) Household income under $100,000 In a professional position (doctor, lawyer, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:10 AM
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I’ve had men tell me they don’t like women who are just grocery store clerks and prefer an educated or career woman so they feel more on the same intellectual level, can have interesting conversations with her, etc There is absolutely some truth to this, especially about conversational skills. However, I would give a pretty barista the benefit of the doubt - maybe she's a student, for example. And yes, if she's intelligent then the younger, hotter barista is getting my pick over the older, less …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:07 AM
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Beauty is going to trump career and status, yes, without a doubt. Like 10/10 times I would say. There's a joke among men: "Look at the career on that babe." Society and feminism pushes careers so hard, but men (for the most part) really don't care that much. Another saying is for her income it's "my money" -vs- for for his income it's "our money." Having been married I can say that yeah, it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:00 AM
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men here say how no man making six figures wants a “career woman” The subtext here is that we want a woman that is pleasant, low-maintenance, and agreeable, which is basically true for ALL men. This does not mean that career women are not this way, but it is more common for them to have the "boss bitch" and/or "I don't need no man" attitude, which is repulsive to men. Personally, I make over six figures and only date professional women, albeit ones that want to have children and meet the aforeme…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:52 PM
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Cancer, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:43 PM
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I've never seen a male friend, relative, or random dude online complain about a womans status or career choice I've dated one or two professional women that were just too busy for a relationship and did not prioritize it, despite saying that they want one. I hate the "who is more busy" competition that can happen between professional men and women dating. We're both busy, ok. Otherwise I agree though, yes. Also could've just been that she didn't like me that much. ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:42 PM
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STEM educated women are surrounded by men As a man working in tech, I can say for absolute certain this is true....but have you seen us?! haha. In all seriousness though, most of my colleagues are married or in a LTR, yes. Some of them are not very easy on the eyes, but are very intelligent. </shrug>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:33 PM
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Black Pill usually means "incel." Basically not opting out like MGTOW, but being forced out due to how undesirable the man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:16 PM
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Probably so, yes. Perhaps she could work from home, or work part time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:55 PM
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In contrast, I've seen that even if a man has no wrinkled, is physically fit and still has his hair, simply looking mature will make him less desirable to women than your babyfaced teen boy. Per the data that is false: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/201908/why-many-young-women-may-prefer-be-older-men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:51 PM
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men around 30 do not find find women their age physically inferior to teenage girls. Not teenage girls, that's too young. According to the data the median age of "most desirable" woman is 22-23.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:49 PM
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The data is in direct opposition to most of your claims here: https://www.parlia.com/a/men-prefer-younger-women "Women often prefer men older than themselves, and men often want younger women. When the wishes of both parties coincide, they usually appear to be a good match." https://www.newswise.com/articles/women-and-men-still-choose-partners-like-they-used-to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 03:48 PM
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Too many incels and blackpill idiots online. Even a lot of MGTOW guys are just bitter and jaded AF. I never said lie to her, I just said don't mention it. If she were to ask me about TRP I would explain it and tell her "don't believe a lot of the bullshit you see online about it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:44 AM
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That’s analogous to women thinking men will shower them with money and stuff just for gracing them with their presences. Believe or not, I dated a woman that was stupid enough to believe that, lol. I agree with you on your edit, but the fairness aspect of the relationship a.) varies wildly and b.) is very subjective and contextual
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:30 AM
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You get better when you have sex with the same person. Otherwise you get worse. You: I've literally never, ever done this activity. Also you: I know what I'm talking about said activity and you can't change my mind! Lmfao, that's called denial and delusion. But again, I applaud your chastity and wish more women would follow suit, albeit with reasonable expectations and an understanding of basic sex education. ​ I refuse to date a man who needs to practice sex or has experienced having sex with o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:27 AM
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There's cooking and cleaning, but I don't think I know any modern women that will do all of it anyway. They expect their man to do some, even if they don't work. Even if they did all of it, what's left?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 11:08 PM
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I love that! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 11:04 PM
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Tough questions, I don't know. Each couple has to figure that out for themselves. Usually men make more money and work longer hours, and most modern husbands also help cook and clean. What I do know is that if either partner is constantly assessing their contributions and seeing them as more than their counterpart's, that relationship is doomed. Traditionally this has happened far more often with men seeing their non-working housewives contributions as less than theirs (right or wrong), and divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 11:02 PM
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True, but someone of them are very bad at it, as evidenced by the very existence of my GF's career, and should mention she's constantly fully booked. Granted some of these kids are autistic and such, so that's not to say they are all bad parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:53 PM
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child rearing is a pretty full time job Except for when they're at school, which is almost all day M-F? Not counting homeschooling, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:47 PM
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Being a homemaker, for either sex, is a worthwhile pursuit. Especially if you have children. Why would anyone even consider it if they are not having children? I just don't know what you'd do with all that free time, other than work. So no, I can't see how it's a worthwhile pursuit for someone that does not have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:46 PM
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Women should cook , clean ,and have babies , be submissive, always be agreeable. Mostly agree, and that's how my GF is, within reason. women educated like your gf are a waste of time for a relationship HARD disagree. I don't want a woman that won't/can't pull her own weight financially. I've only watched a few Kevin Samuels vids, but Rich Cooper (another RP YouTuber) actively promotes ONLY dating women that are financially stable. I dated one gold digger and that was enough. NEVER again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:29 PM
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Women don’t want to sit around playing canasta with the neighbor ladies while their kids are in school. Maybe some do, but that's the kind of woman I'd want to avoid dating. Just conjecture, but I'd imagine many modern housewives started out raising their kids, but then once they went off to school they were left with not much to do around the house all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:06 PM
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Raised by their mother full-time and biological father (part-time, he's working) until at least the age of 3, preferably 4 or 5. Then they can go to school all day, at which point what does the SAHM do if she doesn't work? Cook and clean sure, but I don't know many (any?) women that are content to stay home and do only this, and even as a RP man...I can't blame them. I live in a modest home, doesn't take long to clean. Cooking for 3 or 4, also not very time intensive in 2021. Anything that she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:00 PM
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make the lion's share of our income Then I assume she works doing something? That counts, it's financial contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:49 PM
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not obsolete at all If you take children out of the picture then? I cannot think of much of anything the housewife would do all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:43 PM
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By 4 they can go to preschool, by 5 kindergarten. I'm not exactly an advocate for outsourcing the raising of one's children, but most couples nowadays need two incomes to make ends meet, so have no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:42 PM
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My GF is a child developmental psychologist and gets a great deal of satisfaction from her work. So much so that she has told me she'd do it free of charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:40 PM
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Well this is another post assuming that male and female attraction is again equal Not sure where/how you got that idea from my post. It should have been assumed that the man makes more than the woman in this scenario, but I didn't want to go too far off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:37 PM
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Interesting points, thanks. Your perspective is of course different from mine as I have no kids yet, so you are more authoritative on this subject. I still don't like the idea of my woman not contributing financially to the household, but if I were to marry and have children with a woman that was able to make it work as you described I would be open to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:35 PM
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Private schools worth anything are incredibly expensive I had not considered this, good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:32 PM
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so they can dodge the childcare costs that would eat up a substantial amount of income Also a very good point, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:31 PM
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work from home job, work on a side hustle I agree. This would qualify as bringing in income, so would meet the outlined criteria in the post for actually not being a "housewife." SAHM doesn't exactly mean housewife, per se. I work remote so technically "stay at home" all day as well, and will continue to do so as a father one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:30 PM
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Lastly, the one notable exception IMO for a SAHM (stay a home mother) is for when the child or children are very young - from birth until age 3 or 4. Children are developing their brains for their entire life during this crucial time and need their mother (and father, really) present. However, I am not a Child Developmental Psychologist (my GF actually is), so I won't pretend to know this subject well. ^ read the end of my post, and please think about it objectively. I don't see any reason to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:26 PM
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Rollo Tomassi, author of "The Rational Male" (arguably TRP "bible") is happily married. TRP is not nearly as much of a monolith as it's often made out to be. We are human first, men second. Differences are bound to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:36 PM
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Impressed to hear this from a self-proclaimed blue-pill woman. It's honestly refreshing. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:32 PM
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"I get that there is the "anger phase" but some of these people never seem to leave it." You can leave it once you're with a good woman. It's not that hard IMO. However, this doesn't mean you stop improving and working on yourself. "Prepare for the worst. Plan for the best."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:31 PM
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Damn this is good! FFS ladies, please don't lump in good RP men (the former) with the bad (the later). There is a tremendous difference. I sincerely hope you all can see it. Funny enough, the most "Red Pill" men I have ever met have never even heard of TRP and don't spend much time online. I mean the old-heads like my dad and grandfather. They didn't need any "game theory," they just LIVED IT, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:28 PM
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RP Men - LISTEN UP - DO NOT TELL ANY WOMAN YOU ARE RED PILL! She will not understand. She will make you regret telling her. Keep that shit to yourself!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:22 PM
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"Get the Escalade! We're outta here!" https://youtu.be/jWnj3g8XtOw
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:21 PM
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I'm (newly) 40 and my GF is 27, almost 28. She is the most intelligent and amazing woman I have ever dated, not to mention beautiful. It's worth mentioning she is a Russian immigrant (in the US), so she wasn't indoctrinated with nonsense like so many young American women have been. To insinuate that she even could possibly be "groomed" by any man, older or not, is just downright fucking insulting to her - she could not be. We are happy and in love. Anyone that doesn't like it can pleasure their …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:18 PM
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u/Good_Girlfriend. No, the opposite. He said older women are easier, which is the truth. They are more desperate and get far less attention from men than younger women. Also, they're more likely to have baggage (emotional and physical - kids), want marriage sooner, obviously be less attractive. The list goes on. Not to mention women in their 20's are hotter than older ones, full-stop. But yeah, keep deluding yourself into thinking that men in their 30's or even 40's that date women in their 20's…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 07:06 PM
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I'm not talking about my narrative though. There are ample studies on this, just look: https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/ I only added that last bit to state that IDGAF what people online say. I'm going to do what I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:47 PM
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You can't be feminine and have boundaries?! Now I've heard it all, SMH.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:41 PM
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Hard disagree on romantic relationships. I will not tolerate a "boss bitch" for a GF, let alone a wife. Be feminine or be gone. Now, for the workforce of course this is true, but why? Because it is intrinsically a masculine environment. For better or worse, this is the truth. I am 100% for women in the workforce, BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:40 PM
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I agree it is indeed context driven, but when would you say it behooves a man to act more feminine? I'm having trouble thinking of an example, as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:34 PM
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I think this is a good way for modern women to operate, and I'm a (mostly) RP guy. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:33 PM
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Introversion can manifest itself in being passive or non-confrontational. If you are a passive man, you will fail with women. Be assertive. Be aggressive. Be bold. Make moves. These are the things that successful men do, with women and just life in general. Make yourself do it, even if it's uncomfortable and feels unnatural. Everything gets easier with practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:14 PM
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We have evolved to find women in their 20s to be the most attractive. It's really as simple as that. No amount of shaming attempts is going to change that basic fact. Even if hypothetically this weren't true (it is), it doesn't matter. Shaming attraction does not work. Can you shame women into not being attracted to tall men? Didn't think so. They should stop trying, it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:10 PM
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lol, wut? There would be no reason for these men to lie if not for the fragile egos of older, less attractive women that keep pushing this bullshit narrative that men are "predators" if they prefer younger women. Even still, most men like me (I'm 40, my GF is 27) simply just do what they want and are honest about it - online and IRL. The salty feminists and post-wall hoes can die mad about it, IDGAF. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:07 PM
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I'm a man. I've taken the virginity of three young women respectively, several years ago (high school, then college). However, there's no equivalency for women because again, they do not perform sexually - the man does that. Women receive - men give. I'm repeating myself, but this is why men need practice and experience. Sex is special yes, but just like anything else, one (men, in this case) gets better at it with practice. What I meant was you will understand all this once you become sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:59 PM
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It's most prudent to invest in yourself first, then find and secure a partner to have children before you're too old to do so, if you want them. For women this means by 30, for men this means by 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:25 PM
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Who is "they" in your above statement, RP men? I mostly identify with RP but I'd never even date, let alone marry a woman that wants to be a housewife her whole life. Other than raising very young children, the "job" of a housewife is virtually nonexistent in 2021 thanks to technology and modern conveniences. That would be like a successful woman marrying a man wants to be an elevator operator - that profession was made obsolete years ago. Now, the notable temporary exception being when a couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:22 PM
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women only value men under 30 and mostly under 26 Not only is this false, but it's the opposite of the truth. Look at the data on the subject, it's doesn't lie. Women greatly prefer men that are older than them, and more successful and established than them, particularly financially established.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:07 PM
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I hope she sees this and gives you a crumb of pussy, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:00 PM
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We like to have fun here and have these things called jokes. ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:59 PM
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it’s probably cheaper to keep her TRP is chock-full of "divorce rape" stories of men being financially ruined by women. Sure, the RP answer to this is just to never marry, but that's hardly much help to men that are already married, especially with children. It is 100% without a doubt "cheaper to keep her," by all accounts, RP or not. The data on this is extremely clear. So remember men: https://youtu.be/IZ-w\_IKGRFM
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:58 PM
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you can barely tell the difference in a woman in her late 30s and someone in her 20s. Lol, good one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:53 PM
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A man lying about his sexual preferences for younger women -vs- Actively pursing older women to conform to bullshit social pressures Two totally different things. I've seen men online do the former, but do not know a single man IRL that has done the later, not even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:52 PM
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Very much agree. My GF is a business owner and she is crushing it. I am 40 and she is 27. I am also self-employed and make good money (more than her), which is of course important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:46 PM
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>a virgin man is going to be trash in bed Literally what. You'll see
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:18 PM
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I can at least agree with that last part, but I don't know a single man that says they were "good" in bed until they gained experience. You can try and reduce it down to physical movements if you want, but the fact remains that men give and women receive (in heterosexual sex), so yes it's the men who perform the giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:17 PM
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No, I'm having trouble understanding why a woman would prefer a man with zero experience. For hetero couples, sexual performance for men (givers) is vastly different than it is for women (receivers). That virgin man is going to be trash in bed, at least for awhile at the start. Again, this does not work both ways equally, so your blanket statement about a "person" doesn't work here in regards to sexual performance. I get the rest fully and can respect that, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:12 AM
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Just my personal experience, but this has not been the case for relationships. The woman who is my GF now literally asked me multiple times when I was going to make it "official." Don't conflate proposing or (asking to be exclusive BF & GF) with actually starting the relationship - if the man never initiates, it never happens. Maybe some men don't control access to a relationship, but HVM who are on their purpose absolutely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:01 AM
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There's just no way the data shows that...? None that I've seen at least. I will at least concede though that yes, you're right to say that pair-bonding is effected by having more partners, but again, not the same for men and women (women are more negatively impacted by it).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:47 AM
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Wow, that seems so low! Glad to hear it though, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:40 AM
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Lmfaoo, you're a rare one indeed ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:17 AM
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American lifetime average is about 7 for both men and women Not sure what you're referring to here...STDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:54 AM
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Higher n count affects your ability to maintain loyalty and a long lasting marriage. For women, yes. For men...maybe? But even if the later is true at all, it's absolutely less true for men. And before anyone tries to say this is "sexist" - it is not. It's merely an acknowledgement that men and women are different, which clearly they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:48 AM
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I can appreciate your perspective, reasoning, and even agree to an extent, but I can tell you that I don't think it works exactly this way - it's not fucking a lot of women that makes men unhappy sexually with monogamy, it's porn. I have lived this, so can tell you for certain (at least from my vantage point). It's one of the biggest reasons I cut out porn entirely. There's also men's biological imperative to "spread his seed" that contributes, but honestly this starts to dimish the older you ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:43 AM
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You do you, that's just crazy to me (as an American man that is not religious). Do you mind if I ask - are you religious? I legit cannot think of any other reason for something like this, especially for a woman having this preference for her man (vice-versa is more understandable).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:27 AM
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Literally never, ever, heard this, but ok. Just because a dude has a high n-count doesn't mean he's unfaithful. Same logic can be perhaps applied to women, although it doesn't work nearly as well for the data (women with higher n-counts really are more likely to cheat).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:26 AM
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Literally never, ever, heard this, but ok. Just because a dude has a high n-count doesn't mean he's unfaithful. Same logic can be perhaps applied to women, although it doesn't work nearly as well for the data (women with higher n-counts really are more likely to cheat).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:25 AM
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Of course, I fucked that up. Don't be down on yourself, king. You got one like her before = you can do it again, and this time keep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:23 AM
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He's also got a smaller dick and isn't tall, which are pluses in my book. You ladies are full of surprises on this thread, lol. I really am enjoying it, even if you're not being serious. And yes, I had the two names mixed up. Corrected now. Good catch, thanks. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:22 AM
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They’ll both have issues. Ex fat chick might have some jealousy or deep seated insecurities and cheerleader might have a Princess complex. I've dated both of these women within the past year. Personality-wise the "cheerleader" one had an attitude that was TRASH (entitled beyond belief, selfish and narcisistic) and was insufferable when she was unhappy. When she was happy though she was actually pretty fun, and of course she was a real stunner in the looks department. Not quite a dime, but close.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:07 AM
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Are you a heterosexual woman...that wants her man to be a virgin?! Lol WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:57 PM
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Just as Redpill says it is then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:56 PM
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Finally an honest Redditor in this thread, lol. Like the (edit, woops) Brad guy would even consider a Reddit chick for anything more than a quick bone, lol. HVM will fuck plenty of women sure, but they only get in relationships with a select few in their social circle, and marry even fewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:54 PM
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I want a lower N count partner Women want this? You're the first I've heard say it. I thought this only worked vice-versa, seriously. Why would you want a man with a low number?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:49 PM
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Ehh, define "enough." It sounds much more like you're speaking from personal experience or even biases. For both hypothetical men here, actually. There's nothing at all to indicate that "Brad" would cheat, yet you jumped right to that conclusion. So, by your own logic of making assumptions based on the provided information we could conclude you've known at least one "Brad" and that he was a cheater, but that says absolutely nothing about the hypothetical Brad here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:46 PM
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That's fair. It's easier to get here in the US, from what I hear at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:27 PM
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Life here is nice, soft drugs are legal, no need. I don't know where you're referring to (Canada?), but it sounds like Colorado or California....expect I know for a fact that plenty of people do coke in both states, despite the conditions you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:50 AM
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Of course it's easier for a "Chad" than other men, but that's immaterial. The point remains: Men pursue and offer sex (work for it) -vs- Women receive and accept sex (do not work for it) It's basic biology. It always has been and always will be this way. Not to mention the fact that this is literally how our genitals work: the penis goes in, the vagina receives it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:28 PM
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That makes no sense...at all. Your attraction to someone or lack thereof isn't because of some insecurity (or lack thereof) in yourself. Women are biologically ingrained to be attracted to taller men because height is a good indicator of higher levels of testosterone, fertility, healthy offspring, etc. To not care about those things doesn't make someone "secure," it just makes that woman indifferent or apathetic. The biological imperative remains though. Same for men preferring women with larger…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:06 PM
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Not all men are repulsed by their partners history. Of course not "all" but most men will never choose loose women for anything other than just some quick "fun" (using them for sex)...unless they have no better option. It's just that not all men have the balls to admit it. ​ It seems to me the men who are are insecure or they wish to shame women because they are jealous that women have more access to sex than they do. This tired old trope again. No, it has nothing to do with being supposedly "in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:59 PM
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Complaining to HR with false allegations And women wonder why rape allegations are questioned...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:09 PM
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100% correct and factual, demonstrably and objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:10 PM
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I lift and am in good shape and have been getting more matches since I changed my profile pic to one of me shirtless at the pool (note: that someone else took of me). Very important not to post a shirtless selfie, mirror selfie is even worse. Needs to be organic. Plenty of other tips like this for dating apps. Game is rigged, but that doesn't mean you can't score some wins. BTW, it's not like I just crush all the time. I honestly don't have much luck on Bumble. Tinder is ok. I actually do best o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:11 PM
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Mostly online/apps
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:03 PM
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Yes. Colorado.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:51 PM
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Fair critique, honestly. Men built society, after all. Get triggered all you want but factually, demonstrably, objectively...that's the truth. But now, as men, we're supposed to just roll over and accept that we're all doomed and why, because of women on the internet? LOL BRO. Sounds pretty pathetic when you frame it that way, doesn't it... I'm generally a fan of RP, but there are some logic gaps for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:34 PM
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I'd estimate it's more like the top 10-20% (and that's what OLD data corroborates as well), but I generally agree with him. I'm not egomaniacal enough to think I'm in the top 1-2% of all men, but I pull just fine (1-3 a month, which is enough IMO). Moreover though, I actually really want to find a decent woman and start a family. Hookup culture is empty in anything but the short run. I equate it to drugs and alcohol - fun and feels good in the moment, but destructive longterm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:29 PM
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I agree with this. My sex drive was too damn high when I was in my late teens and 20's. It feels more moderate now and it easier to control (late 30's).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 04:23 PM
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while needing a woman to do a physical job. Not "needing" but like I said, if she wants to outsource it, that's all well and good, but the bill is on her since she's outsourcing her own roles. I personally do not want a trophy wife either though, so perhaps I'm not the guy to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:52 AM
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I can read what you’re writing on PPD you don’t respect housewife or stay at home moms You are absolutely wrong, but I won't try and convince you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:47 AM
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I feel fine, thanks. I only tagged you because I thought you might have something to say in defense of modern women that take this stance (such as yourself), if it is even defendable. But yes, I certainly will not "harass" you (lol) again. Christ, your delusion and overinflated ego is fucking unreal. I learned my lesson well though, so thank you. Never again will I ignore such obvious red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:02 AM
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So you concede my points are valid, logical, and based in fact. That works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:34 PM
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Yes ma'am, lol. Debate me! ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:30 PM
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Lol, I legitimately don't know what you mean, u/spinsterchachkies. You're insulting me by calling me "fake" because my views don't align with yours? Ok cool. Stay triggered, I guess. </shrug>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:29 PM
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Well, that's shitty. I respect housewives and SAHMs immensely. I haven't seen men in this sub say that, but I can believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:11 PM
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Literally any/all women online? I'm honestly glad you're not that way though, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:08 PM
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Women still do the majority of housework and cooking As it should be. Where did I say they don't? "I don't want to" != "I don't do it." Attitude is important, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:05 PM
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when men here use the word “traditional” it’s more a fantasy projection than it is a description of any RL state of women. They’ve been conditioned by the rhetoric of the tradcon-hijacked manosphere to believe their “problems” are due to society’s mistake in giving women rights. Which I’m sure feels really good to a guy who’s failing at his goals. Very interesting perspective. As a RP man, I am actually very much in favor of full autonomy and freedom of choice for ALL adults, men and women alike…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:57 PM
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I was explaining to you how when men talk about women as whores and sluts I instantly see them as monsters 🤷🏼‍♀️ That's your own personal issues, u/spinsterchachkies. Men (society even) will not soften language to suit your tastes, that's ridiculous. Slut-shaming has always existed and will also exist because of how we are biologically hardwired as men: if we can't prove paternity we are trapped in a nightmare for the next 10-20 years. We have paternity tests in 2021 but not so long ago there wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:45 PM
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Do more research before commenting next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:35 PM
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Being traditionally feminine and submissive requires a very large sacrifice, and most men do not offer anything worth that sacrifice. Please explain how simply being true to yourself and your own biology requires a "very large sacrifice"...? Of course not all women are naturally feminine, but FFS it's literally in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:34 PM
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And go where? You've obviously never been around a woman in this situation. The hordes of single mothers / alpha widows clearly demonstrate that they always find somewhere to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:30 PM
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that she can walk away from an abusive relationship if she needs to. This tired trope of an argument again. Yes, women should be independent enough to escape an abusive relationship, of course! There are ample social resources to help women that are victims of domestic abuse, so it's not like she has to be a CEO to escape said abusive relationship. Lastly, and not to victim blame at all, but hopefully the woman would have good enough taste in men to try and avoid abusive relationships to begin w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:28 PM
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That's a fair critique historically, but in 2021 you can work 100% from home. As a RP man I want my woman to be free to do *whatever* she wants to do and trust and believe - I have no desire to try and control her whatsoever. If she wants to be a career woman, I fully support her. If she wants to be a SAHM, I of course support that too. The only issue is that I want (at least two) children, and those children will NEED their mother full-time for at least the first few years of their lives. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:20 PM
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Remember, the redpill is about maximizing casual sex Of course this is true, but we have to consider the why - how did we get here? It was because of the sexual revolution of the 60's, women's sexual "liberation." If most women were not opportunistic sluts then most men would still look to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:16 PM
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"Deprioritizing sex as a signifier of masculinity" is just another attempt to appeal to the female imperative. Hard disagree, and I'm fully RP. Men throughout the ages have pedestalized pussy...it needs to STOP. How do you think SIMPing came about? It's because beta men will do anything to get laid. Sex is the #1 power women have over men....it's arguably the only power women have over men. When you stop putting pussy on a pedestal you regain your power as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:11 PM
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Surely you're joking...? "He's single in his 40's...obviously for a reason!" -women everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:05 PM
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u/TodTheRod01 is exactly correct. TRP does not seek to change the modern world, but rather teaches men the truths of it and how to adapt accordingly. Sadly more often than not this means men will not marry or have children, which I personally want both of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:02 PM
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Who thinks this? I'm American and do not. You're implying that raising children and running the entire household is doing "nothing," which is not just insulting, but objectively and demonstrably false on its face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:59 PM
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...to be objective, it's possible we're just not talking about the same kind of HVM. I objectively meet the criteria of being a HVM, and most of my friends that are men do as well. None of us are looking for a debutant, elitist woman that considers herself above "the help." However, we are not trust fund babies, we didn't inherit wealth. We are business owners, hustlers, we're self-made and got to where we are through hard word. For a trust fund "Chad" that grew up vacationing in the Hamptons, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:56 PM
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Women don't get to define what a "real" HVM is or is not, but of course they do determine if they are attracted to him or not. There are objective guidelines for what a HVM is, generally the "sixes": 6'0 tall or more, 6 figure income, 6 inch dick (or more), etc. Of course many men find these guidelines harsh (especially height and dick size since that can't be changed), but they are generally agreed upon by TRP community.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:49 PM
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Most real life HVM look to women for their femininity and softness, not for the “traditional” jobs that a woman took on. You're 100% right on this part, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:43 PM
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No. You are wrong, u/06534956. Your assumption is that a HVM would look down upon his woman for cooking, cleaning, and raising children is absolutely false - it's rooted in the lies and dishonest narratives of modern feminism. Ladies, for the one millionth time: there is NOTHING WRONG with being a homemaker! To the contrary, it is a honorable and important job! For several millennia this is the way it has been - men hunt/gather/provide outside the home & women take care of the home and children.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:42 PM
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the red pill, despite wanting traditional submissive women, are very much against being providers I have not found this to be true, not at all. If anything modern women reject traditionalism in mass, while men are still embracing it (especially RP men). The result of this is that women still expect men to be traditional (providers, gentlemen, protectors), yet do not offer them the benefits of a traditional woman (low body-count, chastity, fidelity, integrity, cooking, cleaning, homemaking, child…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:45 PM
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Do workout for yourself, not for women. Anything and everything done in your life needs to be for yourself. Chase excellence and everything else will follow.
/r/seduction26/07/21 02:28 PM
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Colorado
/r/seduction19/07/21 05:16 PM
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these shaming rituals, and have little tolerance for them anymore I don't know what you mean. What "shaming rituals?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:46 PM
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what part of this is “being a man” and “acting naturally”? Taking the lead, taking initiative. Men are naturally assertive and dominant, women are naturally passive and submissive. Hot take in 2021, I know. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:45 PM
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is not a girl that actually exists. No woman behaves enthusiastically around you, and keeps her panties on for too long. This is an objectively and demonstrably false statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:44 PM
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Also, with option A you'd need almost all physical intimacy except penetrative sex. You have to at least be having heavy makeout sessions and getting as physical as she feels doing before marriage, otherwise yeah, that's just a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:17 PM
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Why would just being a man and acting naturally feel like a "chore?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:14 PM
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Bad idea to rush into marriage for sex though. Ask most any religious person that got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:13 PM
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an Eastern European girlfriend I'm curious how you got this from the post..? Eastern European women are extremely hot though in general, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:12 PM
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Absolutely this. Women (and LVM) chase validation from others. HVM chase excellence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:24 PM
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Simple, because plenty of men still want marriage and a family. The whole "never get married or have children" thing is one of biggest tenants of TRP that I vehemently disagree with. It's fear-minded and scarcity/lack minded bullshit. If you are a HVM you take calculated risks to get what you want out of life and are not afraid of the consequences of said risks!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:21 PM
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If it's only the sex I'm after I can get that from a prostitute From most any woman you date if, you're a HVM. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:15 PM
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Greatly depends on what you want in life and from your partner, but I'd choose option A because I'm dating for marriage and kids, so I want a "good girl" (read: a traditional woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:12 PM
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Thanks! :)
/r/seduction11/07/21 06:55 PM
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it could be seen as be a bit weird or creepy given the environment I disagree, but I should add that the trail I was on yesterday is a very popular one and this was mid morning, so there were plenty of people around. If it's just the two of you alone far out in the wilderness somewhere then sure, she could be scared by a man approaching her. However, most women that hike do not do so alone as it's potentially dangerous for them, so I really think you'll be fine.
/r/seduction11/07/21 05:44 PM
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To be clear, I was utterly devastated and heartbroken when my ex-wife and I got divorced. We couldn't agree on whether to have kids or not. A year later though I feel much better and I'm dating again. Although I have absolutely no ill will towards her at all, I know from mutual friends that my ex hasn't moved on and isn't dating again yet. Anyhow, I believe in the mantra "It's better to have loved and lost than never loved at all."
/r/askTRP21/06/21 04:15 PM
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I had a very similar situation with my ex-wife, OP. She's a Latina, also from a conservative, Christian family. I married her at 26 and we just divorced last year. At 26 she was an absolute fucking stunner, I mean a legit, dime-piece 10 (at least in my eyes). She still looks good, don't get me wrong, but I had her her prime for sure.
/r/askTRP21/06/21 03:45 PM
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^ True alpha behavior here
/r/askTRP13/06/21 01:28 AM
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If the only reason you're going is to get laid then you should just stay home.
/r/askTRP13/06/21 01:24 AM
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And in one little town in Oregon, legend has it they still do...
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:43 PM
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...but every day is a chance to reverse it!
/r/askTRP01/05/21 05:12 PM
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In a word: YES
/r/askTRP01/05/21 05:11 PM
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Fix your negative emotions then. Holding frame is not "exhausting" when you're just being yourself, when it is your actual frame. Then it's easy and natural.
/r/askTRP30/04/21 07:38 PM
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Leading by example. Walking the fucking WALK, not just talking bullshit!
/r/askTRP30/04/21 07:34 PM
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Only legit answer here
/r/askTRP30/04/21 07:30 PM
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There absolutely are scientific and medical reasons behind semen retention and (even more so) behind cutting porn out of your life entirely. In short there are a ton of "happy" chemicals released in your brain when you nut: oxytocin, dopamine, serotonin, etc. When you get these rewards from doing no work (masturbating) you are only cheating yourself, making yourself lazy and more prone to fail. That said, I found it too tedious to practice SR and be in monk-mode full time. I tried it last year f…
/r/askTRP30/04/21 07:24 PM
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No, you have it backwards. Jerking-off more decreases your libido. Jeff-off LESS
/r/askTRP30/04/21 07:17 PM
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Also, the men that have been burned the most by women are the most vocal in TRP, drowning out any positive experiences like OP's (on the rare occasion we even see a post like this).
/r/askTRP29/04/21 04:04 PM
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Although certainly uncommon, women like OP's do indeed exist. The thing is, these women don't make front-page news because there's nothing to complain about, so they are largely out-of-sight-out-of-mind in TRP.
/r/askTRP29/04/21 04:01 PM
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Latinas do love Goth, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:13 PM
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it has that masculine rough feel to it. Goth girls I've known have been markedly feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:12 PM
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they want a woman who will be mean to them/treat them like a submissive. They feel weak so they want a strong woman to humiliate them. It's absolutely not this, at least not for me. Anyhow, I think the goth girl aesthetic is hot sure, but I also strongly dislike tattoos on women, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:10 PM
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One major part you're missing here: people (women especially) with a high number of partners are usually broken. Perhaps it's not 100% true, but it has always been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:59 PM
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Fucking BAD. My ex-wife's mom was divorced not once, not twice, but three times. Guess who is divorced now.
/r/askTRP14/04/21 05:57 PM
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^ This. Proceed at your own risk.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/21 02:38 PM
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"Oh wow, look at the career on her." - No man ever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:20 PM
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Because if it's more than the man makes she'll leave him, and that's if she even gives him a chance to begin with (which is unlikely).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:20 PM
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Don't assume we're all "smart" here, bro! lol
/r/askTRP12/04/21 06:07 PM
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We're quite far off track from the original subject, but you're making a false equivalency about cannibalism, and I'm sure you're smart enough to see that. indigenous cultures... They are no more enlightened than we are. Firstly, you'd have to more narrowly define "enlightened" to even attempt to answer that. Secondly, they're most likely far happier on average that most Americans/Westerners, and I believe there's data to show that. One does not have to be a "doctor" to understand the basics of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:42 AM
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Anger is often associated with masculinity. But it’s toxic. I'm being pedantic, but anger itself is not toxic, it's the expression of anger though actions that is toxic. Controlling your emotions is one of the main tenants of masculinity, but that doesn't mean they aren't felt. We are men, not machines (unfortunately ;p).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:52 PM
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I think it's interesting as well, and thanks for the thoughtful and respectful exchange. :) your take is that if a chick is selling herself for money (emotional intimacy, nudes, etc) then it is unreasonable for her to be upset if her BF is cheating or if he doesn’t agree with the lifestyle? Correct, and not just that, it's unethical, immoral, and extremely hypocritical. AFAICT these women know this and simply do not care. ​ How can a man have sex with and have wife benefits from a woman who he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:29 PM
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I get the objective points you're making, but to say that psilocybin is a "neurotoxin" is disingenuous at best, insulting and ignorant at worst. Look at the indigenous cultures that have been using these magical (pun intended) mushrooms for thousands of years! Also, it's making huge strides in modern medicine as well: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/04/931377532/rigorous-study-backs-a-psychedelic-treatment-for-major-depression #DYOR
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 09:21 PM
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alcohol/wine/beer is everywhere people should be able to navigate maturely Agree, but the key word here being "should." Also, having taken some time off from drinking and reading books like "The Naked Mind" I can say with confidence, many people (myself included) who think they have control over alcohol actually do not. If a person is drinking at home (pandemic, anyone?), alone (like I was) thinking that their relationship with alcohol is just fine then there's a high probability they're deludin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:42 PM
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Psilocybin (shrooms) is really quite mild and enjoyable (even healthy IMO) in low-to-moderate doses, BTW. In higher does it can produce ego death, so you have to be careful, but even then I've never personally heard of it being negative for anyone...much like ceremonial Ayahuasca or DMT.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:51 PM
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Yes, but even by your own admission your crowd does drugs (coke). Booze really is a drug too, but that's another topic entirely. Of course it will vary, but my main point was this crowd usually does drugs, be it light or heavy ones, to some varying degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:47 PM
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I would assume women feel more used, but it's not exclusive to them, right. It's a human thing, moreover.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:00 PM
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I have lived this and you are right about human nature being this way...but here's the problem IMO: very often putting yourself in these social circles means being around drugs. For me, that meant partaking in them. If you think you're going to be around all this and never do it, you're kidding yourself. I don't just mean soft stuff like cannabis or shrooms, I mean coke, molly/exstasy, speed, lean/codeine, all kinds of pain pills, including Oxycontin...I even saw a friend (who I never thought wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:59 PM
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Good insight here, thanks. As a man, yes, this has also been my experience with ONS, although I'm not really a fan, so I haven't had very many.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:54 PM
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I see, thanks. I thought you meant something like OnlyFans, which is basically digital prostitution. I think everyone for or against OF could agree that it's "emotional cheating" - those lonely men are buying fake intimacy, but their want/need for it is very real. If he somehow does have a wife or GF, she will be furious if she finds out he's blowing his money on OF... Juxtapose said lonely dude to a hot girl that has a OF account, Patreon, a boyfriend, and a sugar daddy - all that's just fine a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 10:34 PM
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King shit right here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:58 PM
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I'm a man and hell no, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:57 PM
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i.e. MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:57 PM
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You're right about genetics, but that doesn't make "the wall" any less real, it only presents a gradient. It varies wildly, but as a general rule a women's attractiveness deteriorates in her 30's. Some women look very "tired" by 30 or 31, lots of wrinkles on her face (Caucasian women, mostly). Others gain a ton of weight in their late 20's or early 30's. The whole "look at her mother to see what she will look like later in life thing" is very, very true. In fact, personally I've never seen a cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:35 PM
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Confirmation bias. There are tons of extremely healthy and fit Americans (and the trend is only increasing towards better health), but the media only portrays Americans as "fat and lazy." Question the narrative and you'll see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:25 PM
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Sounds like OP is a woman that's offended by it. What a shock, I know, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:24 PM
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Haha, king shit right here! You dropped this: 👑
/r/askTRP04/04/21 04:13 PM
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Sad, but true. And how poetic that giving women "what they want" (equal opportunity, ability to join the workforce) has made them miserable, lol.
/r/askTRP03/04/21 11:41 PM
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I have enough confidence, entitlement, smarts, and appreciation for the little things that no matter what, I will end up getting what I want anyway. I believe you've proven, or at least corroborated my point, but please elaborate on the above. You will "end up getting what you want"...by what means exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:03 PM
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No, aging is not an American thing, it's a human "phenomenon" (odd word choice, BTW).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:31 PM
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Yep, this. "Can't turn a hoe into a housewife" 100% applies here.
/r/askTRP03/04/21 08:09 PM
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CCP flags meaning?
/r/askTRP03/04/21 08:05 PM
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Bullshit, no one really knows but OP.
/r/askTRP03/04/21 08:05 PM
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The red-flags alone are enough to know she isn't LTR material. Sorry bro, cut your losses, or just keep her on as a plate (but nothing more). She's in full-on party years.
/r/askTRP03/04/21 05:48 PM
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Yes, it's got to be this, and/or the anonymity factor as OP described. Just as young, attractive women exploit their attractiveness and sexual agency with men, young attractive gay men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 07:56 PM
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Ok, hmm, good insights here. Now we are on the same page. Thanks
/r/askTRP02/04/21 03:48 PM
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Thanks for this post, Andy. I recently stopped drinking and my God....what a difference! 17 days in, but I'm barely counting now. It's gotten much easier and my energy levels are higher than ever! I wasn't an alcoholic or anything, but I was a bit depressed...it's been a huge eye-opener for me to re-evaluate my relationship with alcohol. Will I have a drink again at some point? Yes, almost certainly. BUT, I'm not going to sit at home alone and pound whiskey all night thinking it's doing me any f…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/21 03:46 PM
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when you take it out of the equation, there is no reason to be in one In your opinion, sure. I do see your point, but IMO it doesn't negate the positive aspects of a healthy marriage, so my point stands. My grandparents were married for over 60 years. My parents just 40 years now. So, we're not on the same page, but so say that "relationships are doomed" is empirically and demonstrably false. And yes, I know that Rollo T. is just one of the TRP guys, not the founder. Anyhow, a huge part of TRP (…
/r/askTRP02/04/21 02:34 PM
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Sure, but it's role-reversal and it's rare. I've never met or even heard of one IRL, but I know multiple women with sugar daddys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:12 AM
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As a white guy, I agree. That's why I think it's so ridiculous when you see reactionary shit like a "straight pride parade." I'm happy being left alone. I don't need anyone (or certainly not society at large) to recognize me or make me feel important or seen. So yes, I guess I've always felt intrinsically valued, but I give credit to my parents for that more than society. However, seeing white men as heroes in all the movies I watched growing up (Indiana Jones, Terminator 2, Top Gun, etc) unques…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:07 AM
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Or maybe we do, but you're too accustomed to thinking we don't...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:58 AM
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I’m not upset with it or interested in changing it. King shit right here! Bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:57 AM
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I take it you've never dated (or been friends with) a very attractive young woman? Otherwise you'd know how insanely privileged they can be. Just swipe away on Tinder for a bit if you don't believe me. I dated a 27 y/o woman recently, solid 8, maybe a 9 even on her best days. She said she wants kids but would not raise them, would not cook, would not clean or do any housework....did I mention she wouldn't have a job or work?! We'd be married and all, but she'd just do whatever she wants, wheneve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:47 AM
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Main point of that quote is that all relationships are doomed to wither and die eventually as do even the most beautiful of flowers. I don't agree with this, and I'm not really even sure it's RP...? Rollo Tomassi himself is married. Look at the numbers: there are plenty of marriages that survive till (typically) the man dies. Roughly 50%, last I checked.
/r/askTRP02/04/21 03:28 AM
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Having “ the prize” attitude is all well and good but you have to get comfortable being uncomfortable. 1000% this! It applies to other areas of life too, not just picking up women. Put it in practice for your work, business, investing: you must take risks to reap rewards.
/r/askTRP02/04/21 03:23 AM
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Depends on if they need it, or how long you're standing there holding it open. Like if ole boy is on a Sunday stroll, checking his phone and shit, 80 feet away, yeah...don't hold that shit open, it's just awkward, haha.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/21 01:17 AM
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Dude hauling in a big box to FedEx the other day, both hands full, maybe not heavy but looked cumbersome AF. I hold the door open for him. #BrosBeingBros
/r/TheRedPill01/04/21 01:15 AM
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Wise words here! Thank you. I've saved this post.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/21 07:01 PM
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Not sure that's exactly analogous, but I do agree. I would take that to mean "the man that brags the most is the most insecure," which I don't have a problem with.
/r/askTRP20/03/21 06:38 PM
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I talk too fucking much. It's hard not to because I feel like it's part of my personality (I'm mostly extroverted), but I'm working on it.
/r/askTRP20/03/21 12:48 AM
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Just to have fun. If I hookup with someone, cool, but I'm not going to do that just because I'm drunk. No bueno. That's how you end up with a troll end your bed in the AM, lol ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 04:26 PM
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SAHM What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:04 PM
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Tiger Woods too. Plenty of examples, tons I'd say.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/21 01:57 AM
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that's because most women are hot You're joking, right? Most women are not "hot." I swipe left on AT LEAST 60% of the women I see on apps. The age demographic on Tinder seems to be younger yes, but there are also more tattooed skanks there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:31 PM
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I don't tell women I'm dating my n-count, so I have no clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 05:39 PM
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Are you are you not a woman, though? The statement I made about men having a much higher purpose than simply having sex (with women or men) is absolutely TRUE and 100% not based off any assumptions, but rather empirical and demonstrable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:28 PM
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To say that all (or even most) men built society "for" women is ridiculous, naive, and demonstrably false. The assumption there is that men aspire to nothing higher than having sex with a woman, which is (again) demonstrably false. I have to assume you're a woman? Hardly any man would say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 02:45 AM
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It applies to men too but only the ones that can. Agree, only the wealthy and/or famous....and to a lesser extent, men that hit the genetic lottery and are very attractive.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 11:15 PM
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Of course, by men for women. I'm sure plenty did, but this is by and large a false statement. Look at Nikola Tesla, Sir Issac Newton...both of whom died as virgins (or at least were never married or coupled with a woman). I agree with the rest of your post, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 11:12 PM
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You're absolutely correct.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/21 12:42 AM
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I'm with you 100% on this, u/ScummyMan12
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 09:58 PM
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I really still think hypergamy is legit Because it is.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/21 09:55 PM
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Perhaps, but society was built by men, full-stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 09:37 PM
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No, definitely not. Quality over quantity! If you can pull hotter women, than do so.
/r/askTRP23/02/21 02:00 PM
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It's Reddit, bro. Just do you and forget it. Works for me. </shrug>
/r/RPChristians23/02/21 03:45 AM
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I agree that personal accountability is a huge issue for young men. I'd say this a systemic issue, however - literally no one wants to take personal accountability anymore, least of all women. Not to finger point, though. The crux of it for men is that historically we have always had no choice but to take accountability...but not anymore. We live in very easy times....but I feel like they're coming to an abrupt end very soon! "Hard times create strong men. Easy times create weak men."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 10:09 PM
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Stop listening to that narrative, /u/prelude12342000. If someone IRL calls me a POS, I immediately dismiss them and cut them out of my life. Media is no different for me. Find media that builds you up instead of tearing you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:38 PM
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Most men regularly jerk off to women getting beat up by men. I assume you mean porn? It takes two tango, as they say. Women are against porn? GOOD, so am I! Do something about it. Perhaps older women (with experience) could talk young women out of participating in porn. I have no idea what the solution is, but I know that porn is toxic for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:33 PM
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not inherently flaws in male biology Because there are none, just as there are no "inherent flaws" in female biology. Same for "toxic musicality" - it's a myth. There is only toxic human behavior. And I'd like to think there aren't man-hating Feminazis in western society, but we all know they're out there. Hopefully they're just a small percentage and the internet just makes it seem worse (looking at you, Reddit).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:29 PM
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IMO, yes. Men need a healthy outlet for aggression, yet we have very few. I lift weights and run, listen to metal, etc. Hard pressed to think of many other outlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:15 PM
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Yep, you got me all figured out from a couple reddit comments. Wow /s Fuckin dipshit idiot
/r/TheRedPill22/02/21 07:13 PM
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Porn and masturbation are self destructive. I'd argue that video game addiction is as well. The vices that get men (especially young men) hooked absolutely ABOUND in our modern age, and what's worse is that no one wants to confront this. Your buddies all watch porn and play video games, so you're the "loser" if you don't. God forbid you speak up and call them on their shit! We need to get back to our roots as MEN and be what we are, what we were made to be, what is in our DNA, in our blood - WE …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:14 PM
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Not that I disagree at all, but is this a new thing? I feel like it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:07 PM
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TF are you on about? Never mind
/r/TheRedPill22/02/21 04:52 PM
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Ehh, no one man is 100% alpha or 100% beta. Plus, it's constantly in flux and largely dependent on the social situation. I can agree that alpha is an inherent trait, but don't agree that it can't be learned. That's a huge component of TRP: "fake it till you make it." And that concept resonates with the psychology of confidence as well - if you do something long enough, you become it. If you say something long enough, you believe it and yes, it becomes TRUE.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/21 03:53 PM
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It's not "game" if it's who you really and truly ARE. Isn't that the whole point - just become better.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/21 03:50 PM
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Lol, nah bro, I'm a dude. And like I said, I'm not against it, just saying it won't always work. I've had much better luck with light jabs and ribbing.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/21 03:45 PM
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"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" - African proverb
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:34 PM
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Men are disposable to society. Always have been, likely always will be. Men are only loved conditionally, for what they can DO. Men are never loved for what they ARE. Men very often have no healthy outlet for aggression, which is a natural by-product of testosterone. More boys are being raised without a father figure, or even any strong male role-model in their lives. Modern feminism is selling a narrative that it's "wrong" to be male by perpetrating myths such as "toxic masculinity." I could go…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:28 PM
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The Boy Crisis: A Sobering look at the State of our Boys | Warren Farrell Ph.D. | TEDxMarin
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:25 PM
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Interesting. Men don't have any trouble getting rid of toxic women, at least not when no kids or divorce is involved. But yeah, the horror stories of men's "divorce rape" abound on RP communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:30 PM
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Every human being on earth is out for themselves first and that's FINE! However, if men or women start being selfish, unreasonable, unrealistic in their expectations, etc.....then it becomes a problem. By my estimation, both TRP and FDS are guilty of this (at least to some degree).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:27 PM
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All the "FDS" I've seen here I was taking as "First Date Sex." I just realized you all meant /r/FemaleDatingStrategy LOL - hell no! I'm RP, full-stop. Anyone saying my post here is a "FDS" most is making the mistake of saying I'm encouraging this behavior - I AM NOT. How many negative behaviors does TRP try and make men aware of? Plenty. This is just another one IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:13 PM
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You mean like all of TRP, hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:29 PM
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Even those girls will be flirty and open if they like a guy. They just expect a ring after three dates, lol Exactly the kind of women I was thinking of when I wrote this, YEP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:29 PM
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it doesn't make logical sense. Since when are women logical? You're still looking at this from a man's perspective, which is fine, but I really don't think it's the full picture. The irony here (in my estimation) is this DOES qualify as something that women "just do" and it's not behavior that we, as men, can make them change, even if it's childish bullshit and we all hate it....that's what I keep seeing in the comments here from other dudes: "Don't feed into it." "She will change/be sorry later…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:25 PM
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Good points, and I can agree with most all of them. Here's my thing though - what is a man to do if he wants to find a woman that actually is virtuous? She would have to be moral, or at least chaste and have high-standards. Fucking is great and all, and of course we all enjoy it, but most (almost all?) men want a woman with fidelity for even an LTR, not to mention marriage. Women with a low body-count might be rare, but they're still out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:17 PM
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I can agree with both points, but I agree with the first one most. I don't think this is always a deal-killer if the woman is sufficiently desirable enough. That's the takeaway for me - almost all men immediately see this as a deal-killer, but I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:13 PM
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Chat them up at the wrong time? Not sure I follow there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:11 PM
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Thanks for this, /u/cherbonylfish. Your reasons are the exact things I have experienced first hand! It's funny to see how many dudes are so triggered over this...they just want women to be so simple and predictable (which they are in a lot of ways), but sometimes they just aren't!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 12:59 AM
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The men who have to accept this situation for lack of better options may do so, but that’s their risk (and ultimately loss). You're framing this as a man though, not a woman. My biggest issue with TRP is that it tries to make all these assertions for women, and sure, most of them probably ARE true! However, we have hard data, proof....attraction is _not_ the same for men and women! It's an oversimplification to say that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 04:56 PM
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Agree on all points, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 04:46 PM
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That's MGTOW and while that's all good and well for lots of dudes, that's not the target audience with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:17 AM
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I split with my ex-wife last Autumn and I've fucked 3 women since, granted one of them was a ONS, but still. ONE every two years!? Seems way too low IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:15 AM
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I don't agree. For example, if a woman is a 10 and she's giving me a green-light with every move I make, I DGAF if she doesn't text me back right away. I'm still going to pursue her. Now, if she says "no" when I ask her out and doesn't offer any other day/time then I'll know to forget her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:12 AM
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Because the M-F dynamic is not balanced, and it isn't supposed to be. In the past men have always had to take the lead, 10/10 times. The whole thing about women paying for dates, asking men out, even splitting the bill...all pretty new ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:10 AM
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If you mean attractive women wait for men to do all the approaching and initial date planning then yes I agree with you. However I do not think this is a conscious decision on their part. I think attractive women just have so many options she's not going to put a lot of effort into the early dating phase I just mean this, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:06 AM
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That is utterly ridiculous, u/alwaysonalongtrip. You're really going to live your life in fear because of what strangers write on Reddit?! I'm sorry, but that's just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:04 AM
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FDSers First Date Sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:56 AM
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^ Low-key perfect example of "playing hard-to-get" behavior, right here. Now, maybe it's actually not, but MOST men now will say "she didn't tex back immediately" get triggered and feel like they have to reject her (before she rejects him) - and let's be honest, this IS weak-willed!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:56 AM
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I can agree, but I think it's just an oversimplification of a very nuanced issue. Also see: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5fihmu/how_to_get_laid_like_a_warlord_37_rules_of/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:53 AM
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Valid point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:52 AM
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Just to play devil's advocate, if you as a man are "spinning plates" aren't you doing the exact same thing to her? Perhaps we can have double-standards as men sure, but this sounds like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:51 AM
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there isn't such a thing as "Playing hard to get". My experience differs from yours, but yours is the standard answer and the biggest reason why I wanted to post this. Maybe it's a red-flag, maybe's she a total princess and not worth it, - I'm not making a judgement call on that. However, if you've met an entitled, highly attractive woman then you know what I'm talking about. This is very much a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:48 AM
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AFAICT lots of 9 or 10 women are narcissistic _and_ insecure. Life's funny like that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:44 AM
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Another very good point. People only invest in relationships they see as worth of investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:39 AM
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I'm glad there are other men out there that get this. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:52 PM
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Indeed it is, you're absolutely right. I looked up TRP post you mentioned and I can see the similarities here: 11. Fight Club analogy Getting a hot woman into bed is like the hazing scene in Fight Club where the new recruits are lined up outside the door. Tyler berates the recruits with personal insults. “Too old, go away.” “Too fat, go away.” He forces them to stand outside for days. He tells them there’s no possibility they’re getting in. Most give up. But the few who stay are ultimately invit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:44 PM
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and is so out of my league Leagues do not exist, they are bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:33 PM
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They do and it’s pointless. Weak-willed doesn’t mean low value and strong-willed doesn’t mean high value. A lot of abusers and broke men are strong-willed. An important distinction, and a correct one, yes. I also agree with you on the part about it being ego-driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:19 PM
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You couldn't be more wrong, actually. For starters, I'm not trying to give anyone "advice," just a different perspective on a specific thing that I think TRP is too myopic and oversimplified on. I am mostly onboard with TRP, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:16 PM
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Interesting take, thanks. I'm very musically inclined and that has absolutely helped me get laid plenty. You could be onto something about TRP, but I am fairly certain that there is hard data to back a lot of the claims it makes. Any man has to play to his strengths though, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:12 PM
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Because their words do not match their actions. Smart men watch what women do. And that's not even getting into evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:01 PM
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Are quitting and opting out the same thing? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:58 PM
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Women are not rational, of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:51 PM
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You may think you want a BP man, but I can promise you that you do not. You will grow to despise him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:49 PM
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No one else can tell you if your vetting system if valid or not. Keep doing you, /u/alwaysonalongtrip
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:47 PM
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This is it - this is the crux of the point I wanted to make here! Perhaps not common, but some women: No matter how good the guy is, if he's not chasing me, he's not worth it. RP men: "She's not worth it. I'm not going to SIMP." This is a zero-sum game. Both parties LOSE and why? Because of a fundamental lack of actually understanding where the other person is coming from and being overly defensive. It's fucking sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:44 PM
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I would. No matter how good the guy is, if he's not chasing me, he's not worth it. ^ Gentlemen, I rest my case! ^
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:41 PM
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Hahaha, well sure you sure AF are funny!! lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:39 PM
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Because it's black-pill and for bitter losers (IMO). Life does not reward those that quit! You are a man - BE STRONG!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:37 PM
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What woman should do from the rational point LMAO, not that I disagree, but keep dreaming
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:24 PM
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Lol, ok sure. Also, it's COMEDY, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:21 PM
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TRP says to immediately dismiss these women, which I disagree with. Some of them can be worth it IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:19 PM
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https://youtu.be/GZ3QHTpMZgQ
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:15 PM
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OP says man just have to put more effort. Negative, too general. My belief is that you need to be aware enough to see the difference, then act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:14 PM
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why focus on that one part of what i said, especially because it’s not really the main point i was trying to make? Just because I actually agreed with most everything else you posted. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:10 PM
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even if that means I “lose out” on opportunities with attractive women. To me this sounds like MGTOW (which I am against), but I do see your point, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:08 PM
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Because women often lie...? I don't know, it's hard to say. I think one has to take this on a case-by-base basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:06 PM
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^ Ding ding ding! Thank you - I should've actually worded it this way, but there's no real way to tell (at least at first) if they're playing hard-to-get, or actually just are that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:18 PM
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In general, sure. But to pose a hypothetical, what if she's a virgin and/or a christian (or any religion where sex outside of marriage is highly frowned upon)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:15 PM
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Very well could be the case, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:12 PM
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just like trp guys try to emulate “alphas” because they’re not actually “alphas.” I stopped agreeing with you here because this sounds like a personal thing against TRP and confirmation bias. Being "alpha" is a state of mind and it's constantly in flux. No man is 100% alpha or 100% beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:10 PM
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All too true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:49 PM
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This whole "play hard to get" thing is a fucking myth. By your own admission in the above post, it is not at all a "myth." You're passing negative judgement on it, which is fine, but that itself is also verifying its existence. Look, I'm not saying I like it FFS, just that it's out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:48 PM
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completely ignore them for his own benefit? This could also be interpreted as simply being confident. It's nuanced and different for everyone. </shrug>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:45 PM
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Perhaps not, dating and mate-selection isn't now and has never been fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:43 PM
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I assume from your response you're a woman. This is not what I'm talking about - I don't mean a woman literally saying "no," that's wholly different than playing hard-to-get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:42 PM
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Again, not passing judgement on it myself, so I'll dodge that. Just my take here, but a man that is overly concerned with the #MeToo movement is too cautious and not assertive enough. That's not something that I think of, ever. I simply am aware enough to know if I'm making a woman uncomfortable or not, just as I was years ago before any such movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:37 PM
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^ Exactly correct, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:34 PM
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This is TRP take on it, and while I agree with it in most cases, it's too black-and-white and dismissive. Humans are nuanced and complex and to think that RP ideology (or BP) is going to to be 100% correct and accurate 100% of the time is naive, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:32 PM
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I of course agree that "oneistis" is bad, but I'm personally still a believer in marriage (for having children only though, TBC). Moreover, is it bullshit that women do this? Of course it is. Is it worth it? In most cases, probably not. However, if you're outcome independent and have other options then in some cases I'd say yes, it's worth pursuing her. Ether way, just like the tenants of TRP, I think this is something that is REAL but people are ignorant of, or they pretend it doesn't exist (th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:21 PM
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I'm sure I'll swipe left on her in a couple years when she's tired of jerks and playing games, and now wants her beta buxx. True to my username, here: https://youtu.be/iq2RKTwyZg8
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:12 PM
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If a woman says no to a date then take her word for it and move on. Any more advances is harassment. We're talking about different things. Of course it's bad to harass women. What I meant was - if she doesn't text you back right away, don't sweat it. Men that are overly sensitive and require validation at every turn are going to "next" themselves by not being able to handle this very basic shit-test - see what I mean? Lots of men now days think that women should be just as assertive as men, whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:10 PM
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I can agree, yes. I've been on both sides of this - where a "good girl" let me fuck her on the second date after insisting that she never has sex outside of a LTR, and conversely where a woman is still playing hard-to-get after 3 or 4 dates. My takeaway from situation 1 was that the "good girl" thing is just as TRP espouses - by-and-large a myth, or at least it's a character that women play-up. However, of course there ARE some extremely prudent and chase women, and it's myopic to say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:01 PM
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Women who are actually attracted to you don't make you monkey dance to date them. Nice in theory, but it doesn't always work that way. Men think women think like them - they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:52 PM
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Also very true, yes. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:51 PM
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Yep, agree on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:50 PM
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That could be true, but is not always true (from my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 04:48 PM
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You're thinking that your baby batter is a magic bullet for women if you save it. Not thinking that, but questioning the possibility of it.
/r/askTRP15/02/21 04:01 PM
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Very good point indeed. I am unequivocally a believer in "quality over quantity!" Both women in question here are very attractive. I'd put Girl A at an 8 (maybe even a 9 at time), and Girl B at a very solid 7.
/r/askTRP15/02/21 03:59 PM
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100% agree. Also you have to be careful not to actually bruise a woman's ego or offend her too much. It's a fine line for sure.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/21 11:15 PM
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Yeah, I dunno about the whole "taking a woman down a peg" thing here. Speaking from personal experience, some women DO NOT respond well to it! Perhaps it works best on women that are more insecure. #YMMV
/r/TheRedPill13/02/21 11:13 PM
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As for your original question in your OP, it's not an easy question to answer. Thank you. Yes, it's certainly not an easy question. I feel like as long as I don't masturbate I'm good, but like you said, it's very difficult to know (perhaps impossible). I'm just going to go with what seems to be working. Thanks again.
/r/askTRP13/02/21 11:07 PM
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I hear ya, but you haven't seen her. She's a smoke-show!
/r/askTRP13/02/21 11:03 PM
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Agree, thanks
/r/askTRP13/02/21 11:02 PM
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Or it's ego, but sure. We all tell ourselves our own fitting narratives. Part of being human, I guess.
/r/askTRP13/02/21 12:38 AM
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Thanks, I might just do that.
/r/askTRP13/02/21 12:36 AM
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lol, I'm sure you're right - I overthink shit all the time. And yes, that has been my experience as well. When I'm already getting pussy, I get MORE pussy!
/r/askTRP12/02/21 09:47 PM
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I don't think that's exactly correct...? We all know that when we ejaculate we release dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin in the brain. Oxytocin is even known as the "love hormone" FFS, and women have WAY more of it than men. However, I agree that the more subjective benefits of SR are extremely difficult (if not impossible) to quantify or scientifically measure, so yeah, they could just be placebo.
/r/askTRP12/02/21 09:44 PM
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I've read research about it, but i'm not going to look it up and post here, nope. And yes, I'm going to trust my anecdotal experience. You know why? Because if it works for me then that's enough! I'm a big fan of books like You are the Placebo by Dr. Joe Dispenza. Not saying it's for everyone, though. You do you.
/r/askTRP12/02/21 09:38 PM
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Interesting, thanks. My experience was wholly the opposite, yeah - felt like freakin super man!
/r/askTRP12/02/21 08:10 PM
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Yep, fully agree. Shit, Tomassi himself even touches on it in The Rational Male
/r/askTRP12/02/21 07:55 PM
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Great feedback, thank you!
/r/askTRP12/02/21 07:47 PM
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I want to believe what's more scientifically sound. Human have pheromones, and I do think that jerking off all the time makes you weak and that weakness is conveyed to women, regardless of whether or not either of you realizes it on a conscious level. However, I'm really not sure about actual sex. It could even help for all I know.
/r/askTRP12/02/21 07:45 PM
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Pretty much my thoughts as well, yes. Thanks
/r/askTRP12/02/21 07:44 PM
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It's all perspective (and circumstance). Marriage was wonderful for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:00 PM
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Not for me, I very much want to be a father (but not a single dad!).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:56 PM
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To have children. I don't believe there's any other reason to get married, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:56 PM
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Yes, but it's not quite that simple. She has mental health issues, which ultimately led to our divorce since she did not feel able to have children. We loved each other very much and the heartbreak was unreal. When we divorced she wept and told me how much she was still in love with me, but that she had to "let me be free" to have children with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:55 PM
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All too true. And truth be told, a healthy relationship is like a see-saw - it's never really even. One person always has more power than the other, and the other person has to be okay with it. IMO, with heterosexual couples, the man needs to lead and direct the relationship the overwhelming majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:41 PM
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Too kind, too kind. Many thanks. Of course you haven't seen my picture (let alone any credentials), so you'll just have to take my word for it, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:34 PM
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The dude is just one of “fitness” experts who was born with really good genes saying stupid shit to those struggling to get mass to stroke his big ego. LMAO, really not at all my intent! I suppose my main point was that there *is* some merit to the whole "be yourself" trope....but your "self" still needs to be an attractive one. If you're trying to maintain a frame that isn't really yours, you will fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:33 PM
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There are a multitude of reasons why people get divorced and I meant to keep the topic generalized. At any rate, over the course of about 5 years, my ex decided she emotionally and/or mentally "can't" have children (read: doesn't want them). ...but I do. It's 100% non-negotiable for me - I want to be a dad. That's why we got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:29 PM
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What happened? Over the course of about 5 years, my ex decided she emotionally and/or mentally "can't" have children (read: doesn't want them). ...but I do. It's 100% non-negotiable for me - I want to be a dad. That's why we got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:27 PM
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She was indeed a self-proclaimed feminist and absolutely progressive (politically), yes. But she would still cook and clean and do things to make me happy. YMMV. </shrug>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:25 PM
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Fair, and good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:21 PM
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My ex decided she emotionally and/or mentally "can't" have children (read: doesn't want) ...but I do. That's why we got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:21 PM
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TRP isn't mean for LTRs. Somewhat true, but this cannot be said to be true as a blanket statement. Rollo Tomassi (author of the famous RP book The Rational Male) is himself, a married man. He also talks about how a man can have a LTR or marriage and retain his frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:48 PM
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Ehh, if they want kids, I agree. If not, then she's a compliment to his life. My point is, even if they have children together, she can't be the focus of his life or he becomes unattractive to her. Women say they want to be pedestalized, when in reality the opposite is true. "Treat her like a queen and she'll treat you like a servant."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 09:44 PM
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OP, you make no sense. You're admittedly a traditionalist, but don't acknowledge that a woman can't ever be more than a compliment to a successful man's life? Here's the thing - if you're the centerpiece of his life then he's probably a loser! It's not to say that you don't have your own life, just that you are not going to be put on a pedestal in his.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 08:53 PM
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This is such an adversarial approach, though. It's almost antagonistic. You've lost before the game has even begun... Seriously asking you OP, how do you expect to actually vet a man if you have your mind made up before even meeting him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 08:44 PM
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idk whenever a guy describes his dream girl it's mommy mcbangmaid. FTFY ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 08:30 PM
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I think that's fantastic, and I also wish more people would do the same. I guess it just struck me as quite odd that dating is laborious for you. I know women that are very much like your description here (in fact I'm dating one currently), but when she and I go out we have fun and enjoy each other's company. I just can't imagine anyone, man or woman, dating without it being enjoyable. It's not a job interview and it shouldn't feel like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 08:08 PM
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Also, your estimation of "all men just want sex" is vastly oversimplified. All corgis are dogs, but not all dogs are corgis. Yes, practically all men want sex, but that is not ALL we want! Trust and believe, if that's all you have to offer the relationship will be very short-lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 08:03 PM
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Firstly, I greatly respect your decision to NOT sleep around and honest to God, really wish more women were like you!! Now, that said... I would be HAPPY to pay for the meal to show the person that I take our relationship seriously and I'm not just trying to use them. If I were bitter about having to do this, that's probably because I am trying to use the other person and not respecting them as another human being. Let me give you a man's perspective on this - many of us (more traditional guys a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 08:00 PM
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Yep, this. I'm 39 and dating women in their mid-to-late 20's easily.
/r/askTRP01/02/21 10:50 PM
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To flip it: "It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all." So yeah, YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:28 PM
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This is the answer. Even if it's not actually true, he's conveying it to her (through actions, not words), and she 100% believes it.
/r/askTRP31/01/21 04:28 PM
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Maybe just keep lurking next time, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 03:31 PM
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I have to think there are multiple research papers on this subject. Just curious if you've found any? Not a hill I'm trying to die on, so I'll leave the research to you. ;) Thanks for the post, BTW. Interesting topic!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:21 PM
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I honestly don’t have any experience with those sorts of people - I’ve never known anyone with an N count anywhere near that, so if that’s the number you’re discussing, then I’ll bow out It's not arbitrary, but I don't know an exact number either. I'd estimate that by 20 or 30 partners, any woman is starting to numb out. For men I'd put it at 30 or 40. The point remains though - women are more emotional and cannot pair-bond as well after they have had more partners, as opposed to when they had f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:57 AM
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It probably is not equally bad for both genders Correct, it's not - it's without question much worse for women. The feminist, blue-pill narrative that says "women can sleep around and still pair-bond well" is another one of their delusional fairytales. Any heterosexual man that has dated in the past 20-or-so years has most likely experienced the repercussions of this myth firsthand. TBC, it's also unhealthy and damaging for men to sleep around, just not as much! Of course we are and should be FR…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:42 AM
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So no, I don’t think any of these “promiscuity is bad because pair bonding” reasons. You don't...believe them? That sounds like confirmation bias of a modern woman and (I assume) a feminist? Every adult on earth knows (generally all-too-well) that women are absolutely, unequivocally more emotional than men, full-stop. To say that women can pair-bond well after sleeping with 100 guys is delusional, especially when contrasted to a woman that has a low body-county, or perhaps is even still a virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:36 AM
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If you believe women will be wholly (or perhaps even moderately) truthful with you, you are not RP. That's pretty much the basic tenant of RP - women LIE, so watch what they DO instead of what they say.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 10:15 PM
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Your reality is not my reality, though - "reality" is extremely subjective. There's also those hundreds (or thousands) of people that have had near-death experiences that report an overwhelming feeling of love and peace, many (most?) of them non-believers. That's their reality. At any rate, what I know is that God is love, above all else.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 09:49 PM
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I appreciate your reply. My ex-wife was agnostic and did not want children. That is why she and I divorced. SHE initiated the divorce, I was still trying to convince her to have children, FWIW. What about this verse? But if the husband or wife who isn’t a believer insists on leaving, let them go. In such cases the believing husband or wife is no longer bound to the other, for God has called you to live in peace. 1 Corinthians 7:15
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:41 PM
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Thank you for the links, /u/DeChef2. I'm very glad I posted here, because I had not been thinking about this in this way - I am always looking for new perspective, and I've certainly found some here! I am going to try and find a VIRTUOUS woman (just like the verse), date/court, and eventually marry and have children with her. If she's the right one, I really think we can abstain from having sex.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:36 PM
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Thank you, /u/MichaelCeraGoneWild
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:31 PM
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Thank you for your feedback, /u/Country_medic_. In all honestly, that had not occurred to me...and of course you may be 100% correct. If I'm making excuses, I rationalized it by lumping it in with Leviticus law, Old Testament stuff like "don't eat shellfish" (not the best example since the New Testament clearly overrode this), or laws again homosexuality (a much better example).
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:30 PM
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I feel like some of you are getting triggered because RP ideology does not align with the "no sex outside of marriage" rule of Christianity - I don't know what to tell you! That's pretty much why I posted here. Go ad-hominem on me, I don't care. At least back up your statements, though. I've yet to see anyone even try to reconcile the "dump her if she won't give it up by the 4th date" RedPill IRON RULE of Tomassi with Christian values as of yet - here: https://youtu.be/vblot9RiULI?t=375
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:25 PM
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You say you don’t want to spin plates, but that’s exactly what you’re doing by dating four women. This is not true. I'm not having sex with them. The 1 of the 4 that I did sleep with I am not sleeping with anymore. Dating is not "spinning plates" by the definition laid out in RP, at least not in "The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi. One of the "Iron Rules" is that if the woman withholds sex from you by the 4th date, drop her. THAT is why I posted here. You guys are acting oblivious to that...
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:12 PM
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I don't mind getting dragged. I was raised Southern Baptist, so have been getting condemned and judged my entire life, lol. I never claimed to be a "good" Christian (whatever that may mean), nor did I claim to have not backslid.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:10 PM
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You misread my post. I've slept with ONE of the four women.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:07 PM
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Lol, cool story bro. So, by that logic 50% of the population isn't "entitled" to remarry. How many Christians do you know personally that have been divorced and remarried? Rhetorical question, BTW.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:06 PM
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This is good, insightful, and helpful advice. Thank you.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:04 PM
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Which begs the question—do you REALLY want marriage, or are you just telling yourself that? Yes, I do. To be more exact, I want children I 100% firmly believe they must be raised in a stable, two-parent (man and woman) household. So yes, I want marriage.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:02 PM
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RIGHT!? Thank you!
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:01 PM
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If you're saved, then God will have a field-day in punishing you for this wicked sin, should you commit it. I do not believe in a vengeful God. I believe in grace. I get what you're saying though.
/r/RPChristians27/01/21 08:00 PM
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Thanks very much! I agree with you on all of this!
/r/askTRP27/01/21 01:35 AM
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Thank you, I had no idea! I'll look for it...
/r/askTRP27/01/21 01:22 AM
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Agree with this mostly, except for hopefully the last bit. I grew up in the South (southeastern US, if you're not American), and trust me, there are tons of marriages where the woman still treats the man well, even after the kids are grown and have moved out! My parents are a great example of it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 01:11 AM
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I don't follow - what do you mean? I happen to be a professional in my field (tech), if that's what you mean..?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 01:10 AM
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Yes, but it can and does happen earlier in cases. It's cultural and largely depends on her family pressuring her (or not) to marry. Case in point - I'm dating a 27 year old right now that flat-out told me on the second date that her family is trying to marry her off (and she clearly wants to be, but she played it off by just putting it on her family).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 12:09 AM
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Because married women and divorced women are higher status than never married women. I can agree. What about a married and divorced man - he is higher status than a never married man...does it work that way too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 12:05 AM
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"If she smokes, she pokes." And she even brought rubbers, lmao
/r/TheRedPill25/01/21 11:54 PM
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I get you, but thugs and fuckbois != alphas. Of course they can be, but they are not necessarily alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 06:42 PM
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That's fair, and I can respect that. TBC, I am for men and women having equal rights (of course) and equal pay in the workforce. However, my preference is for a "trad-wife" kind of woman, and there a tons of awesome women that love that lifestyle. There's even a /r/RedPillWomen subreddit. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 09:44 PM
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Yay for modern feminism! Aren't you just so happy now that you have the privilege of slaving your lives away like us men have been doing forever, ladies!? But hey, at least you won't get shipped off to die in a war.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:40 PM
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If it's the first time ALWAYS go to her place! You don't know if she's batshit crazy and will stalk you or not...can't have a woman like that knowing where you live.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/21 04:37 PM
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I absolutely feel the same, but I'm 39 so I have plenty of experience. I think this is pretty solid advice for younger guys, or dudes that don't have many lays yet.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/21 05:10 PM
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Absolutely this. It shifts the power in the man's favor DRAMATICALLY. She's basically left powerless. The only leverage women have is their looks and the offering of sex (at least when you're first dating).
/r/TheRedPill15/01/21 05:09 PM
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No, I haven’t and neither have you. All I saw was, "I have never experienced this, so it must not be real." It's astounding to me that grown adults are this fucking moronic. Let me guess - you're probably a flat-earther too.
/r/askTRP13/01/21 08:11 PM
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/u/actuallythink, I honestly agree with you that jerking off is (mostly) negative, but you're going about this argument totally bass-ackwards. If you've ever been a teenager making out with a super hot girl that you were dying to fuck, you understand. The pain is VERY real, mental or physical. And no, it doesn't help if you bust later or not - once you have blue balls, the pain is there for a few hours.
/r/askTRP13/01/21 08:06 PM
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Absolutely true. You need a passion for it.
/r/askTRP13/01/21 07:58 PM
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Negging doesn't always work though. I was negging a girl that is a sugar baby and she got super offended and said I have an "ugly personality" lol. She was very hot, but as soon as she told me she's a sugar baby I decided I wasn't fucking with her (other than actually fucking her once or twice), so I was just mean to her. My point is, don't *actually* be mean. It has to be lighthearted and playful negging.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/21 12:09 AM
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Men from trp just don’t seem to understand female attraction at all, we care far more about charisma, social standing & ability to provide more than we do looks. Women’s desire is very negotiable, we can be swayed with other factors. The is patently false. Read the book "The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi, which is a staple of Red Pill literature. It frequently goes into how women are seen as sex objects, and men are seen as success objects (aka "status objects"). Note that this is a general ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:45 PM
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I’m more so trying to understand why people find it so unreasonable that an older man would want to go after what is objectively the most attractive group of women. Only feminists and post-wall women find it "unreasonable." From a biological perspective it makes perfect sense. I'm a guy in his late 30's that wants children. I have to date women that are (at the oldest) in their very early 30's, but preferably mid-to-late 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:38 PM
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18 girls are still girls. 21 year olds might be women, but it's like 50/50 IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:33 PM
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As a 39 year old recently divorced dude...NICE. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:26 PM
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Every woman I've talked to about Sean Connery said he was hot, period. These were women in their 20's and 30's and this was just a few years ago when he was alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:24 PM
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Women, yes. Men, not always - it depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:20 PM
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Thanks for the post, OP. I enjoyed reading it. I was quiet, introverted and even shy when I was younger, but certainly not stoic (at all, quite the opposite). Now that I'm pushing 40, I've found that I'm actually a lot more extroverted and talkative. But I agree with what you said about not talking too much with women. You have to remain mysterious.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/21 04:20 PM
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Tattoos and "bi" are two giant red flags for me, but the kids are a full-fucking-stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 12:17 AM
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Bro, I feel you majorly here. I am very analytical and a chronic over-thinker - you have to just LET GO. My brain tells me "do something" and basically compels me to chase her - I have to just ignore it. As an aside, I think it's best to only text to make plans. I think talking on the phone (or FaceTime/video chat) is fine, but not all women are big on texting. I don't read that as a sign of disinterest, just a different communication style. Don't read too much into it, but also don't try do har…
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