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Purge Discussion!CrazyBaby8891/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:14 AM
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Like I said, I'd have to see it to know definitively what my opinion is. And just because I don't see every Batman film the day it comes out doesn't mean I can't be a fan, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 11:29 PM
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Ohh... Well I haven't yet seen the movie so Idk what my own opinion of that scene is, but they might possibly have a valid point there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:14 PM
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I see, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:11 PM
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Off-topic but as a Batman fan I gotta know what inspired your flair, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 09:39 PM
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As others have pointed out, it's pretty funny how Twilight is your go-to for this argument. Jacob also imprinted on Renesmee while she was still in the womb iirc, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:21 PM
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Based AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:04 PM
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Not every woman looks down her nose at inexperience. I never really saw it as a bad thing myself; in fact it's leagues better than promiscuity and/or baggage. Many virgins (like I was before I got married) would even appreciate it, provided you also don't have a toxic attitude toward women or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:59 PM
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You're welcome! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:55 PM
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I've suspected this for a while too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:53 PM
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True; it depends on how these women are talking about their SOs' height. That being said, I have read some comments in this sub by women admitting they weren't attracted to their SOs when they met them, which is... yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:09 PM
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If my partner was debating against assertions that guys only like big tits and brought up my lack of massive hooters I wouldn't feel undesired, because I don't have doubts he desires me. In fairness to the OP, there's a major difference between "Not all dudes are into busty chicks; my SO is a small B-cup which is my preference!" vs. "My SO is flat-chested but her personality makes up for it!" The former statement is flattering and denotes satisfaction. The latter statement is offensive and denot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:46 PM
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I didn't say there should be no mutual effort in marriage, although viewing it predominately as work doesn't sound conducive to much more than a transactional relationship imho. Marriage takes mutual love, both eros and agape (the agape is where the effort comes in.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:26 PM
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Guess how men would like to be seen and described by their wives. "Stunning mansion" or "slightly shabby house with good bones"? And guess in which one of those two cases the wife treats her husband better. Yes, this! And it goes both ways. In a truly successful marriage, both spouses should see each other as the catch (obviously this doesn't mean either of them has to be impossibly rich, good-looking, etc. from an objective perspective, but to each other they should be ideal.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:57 PM
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I just don't understand applying studies and science to your personal relationships. Welcome to PPD, where romantic love (er, excuse me, I mean lust since apparently love doesn't exist in these Redditors' minds) is a math problem to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:38 AM
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Like I said, their off-the-rails thinking definitely leads to that and I don't condone it at all. But they are aiming at protecting themselves from philanderers and other abusers, deadbeats, etc.; they just aren't going about it right in some ways and that's their downfall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:03 PM
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Good treatment obviously goes both ways; I never said it's ok for one to abuse the other and that the other should just tolerate it. I don't think it should be thought of as something that has to be earned either, but rather something that (in a healthy relationship) is the way it should be (on both sides, ofc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:21 PM
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I agree to strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:21 PM
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No, NAWALT just like NAMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:17 PM
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"Treat men like garbage and they will love you and respect you." That's a real quote with 150 upvotes from a comment on FDS. This kinda cements them as a mirror TRP doesn't it? Oh yeah, this is definitely bad. I think the end goals of TRP and FDS differ though; the end goal of TRP is to selfishly use women whereas the end goal of FDS is to avoid men who behave and think like TRP. But while FDS can undeniably offer useful knowledge in how to recognize players and other abusers early on, there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:06 PM
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Oh, yikes. 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:44 PM
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😬 Pedo alert! 🚨 Assuming her niece was a child. But even if she wasn't, incest is creepy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:18 PM
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Ok dude you gotta tell the rest of the story! Don't leave us hangin', lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:12 PM
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Disgusting and want nothing to do with it. calling it sex work is just such transparently manipulative language, and I try my best to never use the term. Based AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 01:09 PM
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I think it depends on the man and his motivations. If he's one of those plating RPers who hypocritically seeks a virgin or low-n woman when he either gets bored of being community D or can't do that anymore (or couldn't do that to begin with but would totaly jump on the opportunity if it presented itself), then yeah he perfectly fits your description. But if he's, say, a virgin for moral reasons who is seeking another virgin who shares his values and is on his experience level then that's entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:23 PM
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It's more common than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 06:52 AM
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do you have some neurological diagnosed things? Or is it just radical feminist groups that have this on the head strange wished for guys? Or maybe the average age here is like 15 or so Is it really so hard to believe that there exist women who don't want, as the Internet puts it, "community d!ck?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:17 AM
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I'd feel betrayed that he wasn't truthful with me before we got married (when vetting I made a point to stress mutual full disclosure as things grew increasingly serious, so that we could both make an educated decision investing in each other and our relationship... as it should be, imho.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:35 PM
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And with me! Lol I just realized I've been reading your username wrong all this time. I kept reading it as "Houston Gardener" when it's actually "Houston Grad Engineer."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:28 PM
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Sounds like you got a rare keeper; congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:27 PM
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Because everyone owes honesty to whoever she (or he) is with. There's no excuse for deceiving someone like that, even moreso if the other person is inexperienced. And I say this as a woman who waited until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:09 PM
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This is blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:07 PM
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Read u/poppy_blu's replies above. Here is her first one which sums matters up nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:04 PM
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Selfish instant gratification. That's literally it in a nutshell. I say "No pun intended" as I snicker like Beavis and Butthead. I wholeheartedly agree with you on the absurdity of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:27 AM
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trying to unredpill some dudes You're doing the Lord's work. Keep it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:26 PM
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Maybe I'm just uneducated though. Nah dude, you're just wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:23 PM
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I am manipulative and sociopathic. Flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:05 PM
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Guy 7 gets the top spot, with Guy 2 coming in at a close second. (They sound more like my husband in an overall sense than the others on this list, too.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:16 PM
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I'm just lurking here but I gotta say: Right? OP runs to a place that's all about transactional situationships and then is surprise Pikachu-faced when she gets played.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/22 06:33 PM
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Ohh I see. It's ok to not be interested in dating; being in a romantic relationship isn't for everyone. Just ensure that you aren't actually developing hatred of women; I say this because you don't seem to believe women can be decent friends and are always drama queens, which isn't true. Some regrettably are, but others thankfully aren't. You don't have to hang out all buddy-buddy with women ofc, but there shouldn't be lingering hostility toward them as a sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:11 PM
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Thank you! 😊 I'm glad you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:05 PM
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If you're only encountering users, it's understandable that you'd get frustrated so I don't fault you for that if that is the case. However, I can't be entirely certain that's the case (with the exception of the single mother; sounds like she was leading you on while dating some other dude on the side and got ditched by him) since there aren't enough finer details about those relationship dynamics and I'm also getting slight vibes of only putting forth any effort with the expectation of somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:41 PM
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How is that link relevant to anything I've said?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:02 PM
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I thought it was pretty unfair of her too (I didn't get to finish reading it before it disappeared though.) And it was literally the third post I saw get deleted within that hour! I've only tried making posts three times in this sub myself and every time they'd get deleted so I don't bother anymore (I just can't take PPD ideologies seriously enough to write full-blown essays about them anyway so whatevs.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:46 PM
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Glad I made ya laugh! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:41 PM
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"Femcel" is the female equivalent term to "incel" (I learned that from this sub, lol.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:59 AM
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You kiddin'? They hang out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:46 AM
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Mods deleted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:44 AM
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Lol yeah I've noticed so many Q4W threads in this sub basically go like: RP Man- "Would you consider dating a RP man?" Women (with the exception of GimpGirl)- "NOPE!" RP Man- "What if..." Women (with the exception of GimpGirl)- "HAIL NO!" RP Man- "But take into consideration..." Women (with the exception of GimpGirl)- "DID WE STUTTER?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:35 AM
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Ok, if you didn't know then that changes matters. I don't blame you for making your move in that case. As for the bf glaring, maybe he thought you knew? Or maybe he was an unreasonably jealous (bordering on abusive) type. Idek why the other guy (the one who charged at you) got so involved; it wasn't really his business and he just sounds like a bully. Anyway, you did nothing wrong there. What you need to do now is work on moving past it and do something positive to help you feel better about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:13 AM
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Let me get this straight... You were interested in a girl who already had a bf and you've been holding a grudge all this time because her bf glared at you? I'd glare too if some rando tried to move in on my dude, js (ofc that's under the assumption that the rando/you already knew the other person was in a relationship.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:41 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:44 PM
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It really depends on the woman. I think you're correct that a lot of those women are on copium but there are also some who truly are happy with their lives. Marriage isn't for everyone. Kids aren't for everyone. The single life isn't for everyone either. Everyone needs to discern their own lifestyle based on their individual needs and strengths.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:47 AM
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When one demands youth as a requirement (with the exception of that person being young and wanting a gf/wife of similar age to himself) what happens when the woman physically ages? She either gets cheated on or traded in, maybe even both in succession. That's what happens when one fetishizes youth and can't find one's own same-aged gf or wife attractive anymore. Those types also tend to be the ones to go for jailbait and they'd go even lower than that if they thought they could get away with it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:59 AM
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Why do we as a society continue to engage in hook up culture and the degeneracy that comes with it, when it leaves most people so empty inside? Because so many people would rather do that than practice self-control. It's definitely a shortsighted thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:41 AM
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Are you saying that men want to bang the same woman all their lives? Some actually do. That's why some men want to get married, to commit to one woman for life and likewise have her commit to him for life. Why? Because a chick seeking real commitment doesn't want a dude with a wandering eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:02 AM
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Good one! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:58 AM
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Normal men want sexual variety. It's biology. Nah, it's rationalization or as it's known 'round these parts, "hamstering." If a guy can't get other women, it's usually a red flag. "Can't" and "choose not to" are two different things. But anyway, being a player or wanting to be a player are red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:41 PM
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Men worth keeping have options. Men worth keeping won't care about other options because they'll be devoted to who they chose to commit to. Those won't are guys that other women don't want. Usual cuz they're weird somehow. Weird isn't always a bad thing. It just depends on what kind of weird. And I didn't select my husband based on what/who other women wanted; I selected based on what/who I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:21 PM
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But it does succeed in the purpose of getting the guy to stay with you. Maybe, but that's not a man worth keeping. Men are going to fuck other women anyway. That really depends on the individual man. Some will, some won't. The trick is to vet as well as humanly possible for one who won't. I got him an apartment where he can keep a mistress. Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:01 PM
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She may be younger, but I can buy him hot thots. Lol this obviously defeats the whole purpose of not getting cheated on. Just because he stays doesn't mean he's being any more faithful than if he moved out with a younger mistress.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:40 PM
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everything he mentioned there is temporary. I said inherently temporary. Youth is the only thing on that list that's inherently and inevitably temporary in a specifically obvious way that the other things aren't per se. Is your partner going to weather the storm with you no matter what One who considers youth a basic requirement (if he isn't as young himself) certainly won't. Thank God I didn't marry one of those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:10 PM
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The difference between all of those other things you listed and youth is that youth is inherently temporary and thus anyone having a specific thing for youth is not going to be good marriage material since marriage should last through all life stages. Heck, such a person wouldn't even make good relationship material in general because he'd be wasting the other person's time when that other person could be finding someone else who would actually remain attracted and stick around. Also, what u/Sus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:07 PM
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what's the problem with a guy filtering for younger women as long as he has honest and good intentions? That's really no different than women filtering for men of a certain height, or within a certain tax bracket. Lol if he's filtering for youth his intentions aren't really good unless he is young himself. That's the difference I specified between dudes who just so happen to fall in love with significantly younger chicks, vs. creeps. The creeps are the ones who deliberately filter for a wide age…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:11 AM
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I'm no more biased than you are. You're getting defensive because you've dated significantly younger and you feel that I'm attacking your choices, but unless you fit the description of the particular type of guy I'm referring to this isn't about you. I'm just pointing out what I have observed of age-gapped relationships. Yes there were/are some good ones but they are not the majority from what I've seen. Btw just because the guy doesn't initiate a particular relationship doesn't mean he isn't fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:11 AM
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My point was that most of those relationships stem from fetishization, with a few exceptions in which the relationships are actually healthy and happy. I've seen it time and time again, and listened to others who likewise have seen (and even experienced) it time and time again. And choosing to enter such a relationship doesn't necessarily make the relationship non-toxic. People willingly get into toxic relationships (and other toxic situations, for that matter) all the time, although toxic peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:25 AM
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Yeah it can happen, but the difference is in that situation the age gap wasn't a founding factor of the relationship. Those exceptions are just that, exceptions. 99 times out of 100, it's fetishization along with other red-flag baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:59 AM
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This, along with avoiding the dudes who are bent on dating chicks who are significantly younger than themselves or who otherwise hold viewpoints which would indicate a desire for that (which includes but is not limited to RPers.) That being said, even then the future cannot be fully known (people can change and unfortunately that's not always for the better) but the above methods can greatly aid one's chances of not making the biggest mistake of one's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:52 AM
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The Red Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:56 PM
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My husband is shy but not cowardly, and we're happy together. I found (and still find) his humility endearing; none of that conceited douchebaggery (I guess known as "Chad" 'round these parts) for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:53 PM
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"if I fuck all his friends he'll be impressed with how sexual I am". This just cracked me up too much to not comment on. You really believe most dudes have a cuck fetish? 🤣 (Rhetorical question, because I don't believe you really believe even half the things you comment.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:29 PM
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33 and 21 are over a decade in age difference, so that's something I'd consider a big age gap. And I've seen time and time again toxic relationships in which older men exclusively chased younger women. There's also this: "Patterns of population-based rates of heterosexual intimate partner homicide for couples across 14 categories of couple age discrepancy support the hypothesis that the risk of IPH is elevated for couples with a large discrepancy between their ages." I checked out your link and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:14 PM
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🙋🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:04 AM
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A lot of times the younger person is in fact more naive due to the major differences in knowledge and experience, and doesn't realize how unhealthy the relationship really is. I'm not saying an age-gapped relationship can't ever be healthy, but healthy age-gapped relationships are the minority and they aren't the ones with the age gap as a founding factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:16 AM
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Being a 35 year old women working in the same department as an uber successful, handsome man making good money only to see him only date women 10 years younger than himself is depressing, and they use their concern trolling to try and persuade younger women into stigmatizing large age gaps in the hopes that they will then have a chance with successful men their own age. As others have pointed out, men also see the red flags in such relationships but I'd additionally like to point out that there …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:49 AM
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I'll be celebrating Valentine's Day with my husband, and the next day I'll pig out on discounted Valentine's chocolates. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:58 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:40 AM
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Technically I discovered it over a decade ago when I read online comments in various threads on different websites that fit TRP viewpoints but I didn't know it was an actual movement or whatever and didn't know it had a title; I simply noticed that a lot of dudes shared the same ideas about dating but that was about the extent of my knowledge until I joined PPD and saw how deep Manospherians' bitterness and misogyny runs, which makes me forever grateful that I didn't inadvertently get married to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:30 AM
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Even if you do see it as a transactional game to win, self-improvement is still the most sensible strategy. Yeah but in that case "self-improvement" only refers to surface qualities: looks, money, etc. You'll never hear those types stressing the importance of improving one's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:34 AM
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Yeah dude, both you and u/gfcheatedwithchad deserve better than this. I know some couples are somehow miraculously able to work their way past it and I commend them for that if the cheater truly changes, but if they can't then they can't and I don't judge one for leaving over something so destructive even if married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:08 AM
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Because then that would ultimately mean taking personal responsibility for their own bad behavior and making the necessary positive changes. If they keep treating dating as a transactional game to win, they can more easily maintain their selfish delusion that there's no need to improve in the ways that matter most (and that are most conducive to an actual meaningful relationship as opposed to using someone.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:03 AM
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Lol I knew exactly who this is as soon as I read "sloot." 🍿 Edited to add: Most of the comments so far sound like Purge Week.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:46 PM
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Generally speaking, sure. I myself hold that same view, in fact, that the past and its context do indeed matter when vetting someone for dating and potential marriage. The only times it bothers me are when people don't hold themselves to the same standard as the standard they hold others to, and when they dehumanize someone for her or his past.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:14 AM
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can I say that you with perfect reasonableness that you are wrong in your assessment? No, because I'm not wrong in stating there's a problem with keeping "trophies" of exes. Am I wrong about you having gotten so attached to your "trophies" that you couldn't bring yourself to delete them at all? Sure. But that still doesn't make me wrong for saying it's a bad thing to keep those "trophies" and/or to lie to your current gf about them. I would have to lie to you to make you leave me alone for the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:17 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:05 AM
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Oh yeah, forgot about that! Actually they both are afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:53 AM
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ideology based on trans women Wait, is it really? Lol I wasn't aware of that!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:42 AM
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Ah, the classic "I can quit anytime I want!" That's what addicts say, lol. Would you be so perfectly cool with your gf hoarding nudes of her exes and dismissing perfectly reasonable opposition to it? If you can't be honest with each other then you shouldn't get involved with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:29 AM
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Plot twist : The bike was no other than the infamous Gigachad Zeus Ok I must admit that one amused me. 😂 Have an upvote for wit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:19 AM
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Whichever dynamic is better for the individuals involved is the way to go. People can't all live the exact same lifestyle because different people have different needs, capacities, and interests. So I consider it a case-by-case matter. As long as everyone is reasonably happy and healthy, the particular setup doesn't matter too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:19 AM
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If you weren't invested on some level, then you could easily get rid of the nudes and not miss them. And even if you lie by omission, the truth will out in one way or another and it won't be pretty when it does. It's like when promiscuous women lie by omission by concealing how promiscuous their past really was and then their bfs or husbands find out about it later. Better to simply be honest from the start, even if that means a breakup after telling. To do otherwise is to lead someone on, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:15 AM
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My concern is not so much for myself since I'm not single and my husband doesn't follow any Reddit ideologies RP or otherwise, as it is for other women who are single or with RP men. TRP inherently views women in a shallow light and as inferior to men, relationships as transactional competition, marriage as undesirable, manipulation and abuse ("holding frame", "plating" and other PUA tricks, "negging", predatory age gaps, etc.) as the optimal way of pursuing women (not "a woman" but "women" beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:51 PM
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If it's wrong for a woman to do, it's wrong for a man too. This isn't about gender; it's about disrespect. There's no way there isn't some level of investment (even if not overtly emotional investment) if you keep "trophies" to reminisce over and are so attached to said "trophies" that you're being dishonest with anyone you date about them. There's no excuse for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:06 PM
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Is it scratching an itch? Something precious to be given to the love of your life? An irritating distraction from what's important? A form of connection with others? That second thing. My ideas do reflect how I was brought up but I genuinely believe in them for several reasons both spiritual and rational, instead of mindlessly going along with what I was told without real conviction. I think it helped that I also witnessed some of my peers' folly in hookup culture enough to know I never wanted a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:50 AM
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We need more like you in this sub. My husband hates Reddit, so he's out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:39 AM
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Assuming you are happy with everything else in your relationship (views on children, finances, sex etc.), would it be a deal breaker for you if your SO was adamantly against getting married? The scenario of which you speak would be fundamentally incompatible with my views because I believe sex and children should (ideally) only be had after marriage, therefore it would be impossible for me to be happy with everything else in the relationship because we wouldn't even agree on that much. And if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 12:34 AM
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You're the voice of reason in here, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:56 PM
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Honestly I did too until I started reading the body (pun unintended, lol) text.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:04 PM
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remind me of fake bowling ball shape boobs. I always say steroid tumors, ahem uhm I mean bodybuilder muscles, are the male equivalent of bolt-on breast implants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:57 PM
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I don't get it either, dude. I don't share either; that's degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:51 PM
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So that's what those hideous tumor-looking things are called: Traps. TIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:56 PM
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You're very welcome! 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:04 PM
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Be my guest! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:57 AM
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"I love the science!" \dabbles in Manospherian horoscope evo-psych**
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:30 AM
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porn use is pretty common among men, and that is a pretty major judgment call. Just because something is common doesn't make it acceptable. Personally, I can distinguish the difference between pornography and actual sex. But your brain can't. There are studies showing that porn use affects the brain. These are just working people providing an entertainment service essentially. Sex shouldn't be made into a commodity, for numerous reasons. Hope your current relationship continues to be a happy one…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:25 AM
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I don’t understand why this post is targeting just women. You must be new here, lol. Love your username, btw!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:21 AM
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do you just mean watching porn while single as a dealbreaker, or only if they continue to do so during the relationship? Watching porn even while single is a red flag because it says a lot about how a man views sex and women, and it can be an outright dealbreaker depending on various factors such as the genre(s) he watches, whether or not he's conflicted about watching it, whether or not he's actively taking steps to stop, whether or not he's open to sincerely considering my view and other educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:10 AM
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\clicks your album and sees all the long hair** Ah, I see you're a woman of culture as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:07 AM
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I no longer have to worry about options and my husband is on the same page as myself about this (yes, such unicorns exist.) And porn always has a negative effect on relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:50 AM
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If it inspires dudes to practice self-control and hopefully even kick their porn habits altogether that's fine by me. That said, the NoFap community does have some out-there woo-woo ideas that I don't exactly agree with therefore my overall verdict is...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:21 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:11 AM
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porn and the like? Are those deal breakers? Are those red flags? Is it still a red flag if most everyone does it? Yes. But where is the line drawn on how people get their rocks off in the absence of that somebody? Self-control is a thing. Most people are simply too lazy to bother with it, but it can be done if they apply themselves. But who am I to judge others? That is personal imo, and it feels wrong to me to talk shit. We all have our opinions. They can do what they want, but that doesn't mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:04 AM
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IKR? This whole idea of "sexbots" is sheer degeneracy, real-life Black Mirror, social cancer, lost-cause, inherently depraved sht. A dealbreaker. A whole Soviet parade of red flags. I believe sex actually means something and it's meant for marriage and as such should always include mutual love and respect and monogamous fidelity; it's not a fkin' sport to be played with whoever, or in this case whatever. Ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:47 AM
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THANK YOU! I chose not to do casual sex for moral reasons. It was a conscious decision for me, not an orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:45 AM
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There was no repercussions for me. So you don't care how your actions affect other people. it's always a bad idea to send nudes, even if you're in a "serious relationship" At least we agree on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:41 AM
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That's no excuse. Also, he could easily have been lying to you about the dynamics of his relationship; cheaters often do that so they'll have a better chance of getting laid. And you "just wanted some sex regardless of the repercussions." FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:44 AM
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😁 \points to my flair**
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:40 AM
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The ideal is to not fk around or do "serial monogamy" at all. I believe in saving sex for marriage so mutual virginity is the ideal. That being said, virgins are rare so it's almost impossible to make that an absolute requirement these days, especially when taking into account other equally-important factors such as what kind of person one is in other areas of ethics and other things that could affect the relationship/marriage. The non-virgin option closest to the above ideal are low-n guys who …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:19 AM
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Y I K E S. Sounds like you knew he had a gf when you got with him too...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:41 PM
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I am not one of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:33 PM
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Yes. Any lingering attachment to exes is a dealbreaker because that's major baggage that I wouldn't personally be willing to tolerate (I didn't have such baggage myself either.) If you're truly so invested in your "girl", you won't be keeping other "girls" (especially any you've personally dated and/or hooked up with) on file. Also, PSA to the women who send nudes to their bfs: You have no idea who else will see those without your consent even after you've broken up, so it's better to simply not…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:19 AM
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Have you guys ever seen the movie series Ip Man? I watched one of those movies with my husband! I can't remember which one but it was the one in which <span class="md-spoiler-text">his wife dies.</span>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:36 AM
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I was just chasing validation to prove to myself I am lovable Why wasn't your good gf proof enough that you are lovable? What's the point of seeking validation from random thots (who probably dgaf about you) when you already have someone special who's actually worthwhile? Then the dudes here wonder why chicks get radicalized in FDS. I am concerned for your gf; she sounds like the type prone to be a doormat and I hope she has come to know her worth enough to not tolerate this if you do it again. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:28 AM
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Neither; they're just neutral to me. If you like them, wear them. If you don't like them, don't wear them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:19 AM
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I said simple earrings/tiny studs are ok. The gauges (also called plugs, I just found out) are different; they leave huge permanent holes in the ears that you could fit your finger through.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:19 AM
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mediocre How dare you talk about Seal that way! His music is beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:44 AM
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​ Apparently people like one or the other. Rarely both. Lol it's true! Happy Cake Day, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:32 AM
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I'm pretty neutral about male earrings/studs as long as they're not those gross gauges that stretch out the ears like raw pizza dough. I wouldn't assume a guy is homosexual simply because he has pierced ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:30 AM
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TIL my mind's in the gutter, because I thought your comment was going in a different direction lol! But to answer your question, I love going out to eat because sometimes I'm simply craving certain recipes that can't be replicated at home. It's also convenient because it's quicker. That being said, we don't get takeout all the time but occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:22 AM
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A wise dealbreaker indeed. Too many people are naive about that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 01:38 AM
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I'm happier married than I was when I was single, for many reasons. Those reasons include the facts that I married the right person for me so our relationship is actually happy and healthy, I have intimacy I didn't have when I was living the single life, there's security in us having each other's back for the rest of our lives in a unique way, etc. But I'm not every woman. As individuals, women can vary greatly just the same as men. Some people are more inclined to marriage, others are not. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:19 PM
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Men's superior physical strength is honestly impressive; as another commenter in this thread pointed out they're like superhumans compared to us women in that regard. When we got a new hybrid mattress which is heavy AF (but also comfy and sturdy AF, for which I highly recommend them!), my husband hoisted it onto the bed frame by himself and he doesn't even work out. Lol the bro doesn't even lift, but he can lift, y'know? Another cool thing, which stands out to me as an overthinker, is how straig…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:11 AM
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You're welcome. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:59 AM
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PPD in a nutshell, I tell ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:12 AM
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I don't agree with it either, and I call it copium.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:20 AM
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Kudos to you for breaking that toxic cycle! Username fortunately does not check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:15 AM
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I pretty much cheated at Every opportunity. Well, most of them. I ain’t like that no more. Now this is real self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:11 AM
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we are not enabling community dick in 2022 and beyond. It's bad, we have the power to stop, and we will. Who's with me? Aye! I mean, I never enabled community dick... but still... Same!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:23 PM
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The only idea that I can attempt to CYV on (because you're right about everything else) is the idea that all men who are willing to wait have low sex drives. You forgot an important demographic: Men (including high-libido ones) who choose to wait either for religious/moral reasons or because they respect and love their gfs who are choosing to wait to the point that they are willing to wait with them. (Yes, they exist. And yes, they're relatively rare but they do exist.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:16 AM
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They basically view men as sperm donors. That's not true of me. I'm against sperm donation for a number of reasons, none of them being the above. It's basically the closest comparison I can think of to a man being cucked but for women. This is one of my reasons, among many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:58 AM
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🤣 You made my night with that comment, thank you! I'm not a furry though; I'm a werewolf. 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:54 AM
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If a guy donated young and then married, then the sperm was used and ended in a child, assuming that guy didn’t know what happened - would that be marital infidelity as well? I don't see how he wouldn't know what happened; the entire point of donating sperm is to medically impregnate one or more women; granted, not all donations get used but still... donors know what the purpose of it is, so clearly they have no qualms about having a kid out there somewhere with some stranger. Your scenario woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:43 AM
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I'm vehemently against this for several reasons, the first and foremost reason being that it violates marital fidelity. That would still be his child even if he wasn't doing anything physical with the other woman, and any child of his should be a child of mine conceived in the natural way and not some outsider's conceived in a test tube or any other way. (Inb4 "What about stepchildren?", we don't have any stepchildren.) That wife in the post you're referring to has every right to feel the way sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:38 PM
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✨🦄✨
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:11 PM
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Do you see any women calling out this behavior? I just posted a comment calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:50 PM
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what is the logic behind "rewarding" someone who isnt a good enough man to become your boyfriend Honestly, I don't get this "logic" either. I mean, I get wanting to do it because of horniness but I don't get the rationalization of why something that intimate should be done more quickly (or at all really, since I believe in waiting for marriage) with somebody one doesn't see a future with. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:47 PM
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I don't claim to have all of the answers, but I do have some answers that can be helpful in one way or another if people are willing to give them a sincere try or at the absolute least seriously consider them. Problem is those answers often aren't what people wanna hear, in which case it's their life to lead but their bitterness and/or whatever else they're allowing to hold them back isn't gonna do them any real good in the long run. I simply attempt to aid where I can and it's ultimately up to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:56 PM
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Nope. I'm just another imperfect human.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:01 AM
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Funny how men here will insist women don't care about n-count when that isn't even true (high-n women aren't likely to care, but virgins and low-n women generally will to varying degrees unless they're super naive.) I certainly avoided f-bois and guys with lingering sexual/relationship baggage like the plague when I was single, and I didn't marry one of those types either. It is a standard that men could easily live up to if they'd simply cultivate self-control, same as with porn. But no, they'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:59 PM
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You're welcome, and Lawd hammercy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:26 PM
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reading so I know the signs of my son becoming RP (in the future, if it happens) and trying to prevent it. Great parenting! 👏🏻 Keep it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:19 PM
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I saved my best friend from falling into the RP ideology God bless you, brother. You did the Lord's work there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:18 PM
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Basically, just doing my part to make ice cubes in hell. I love this and I'm stealing it! That actually is one of the reasons I stay too, although I don't think I'm helping much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:14 PM
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After Yahoo! stopped allowing comments on their articles, I needed a new place to go and I kept coming back to Reddit. I kept noticing this sub so I took a closer look at it. I stay for the interesting discussion topics. It's pretty entertaining, to say the least. I also try to help people where I can, but that doesn't usually go over well in here because people (the men especially) are too deep in their biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:09 PM
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You're welcome. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:33 AM
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I agree that quite a few of their ideas (being overly concerned about a man's salary and other shallow qualifications, being too bitter to see that they at times aren't holding themselves up to the standards they set for their dates, having misandric attitudes, etc.) are indeed counterproductive. But they do have some good ideas too, when it comes to warning women about certain dangers (because they've been there!), and that is what OP sorely needs in order to be prepared for what's unfortunatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:21 AM
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I warned her to not heed everything they say and I pointed out that they are extremists. It's just that they do expose certain types of abusers that are very common, which can be helpful to a woman who isn't savvy to the ways of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:43 AM
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Reddit in general is toxic when it comes to dating advice, but the FemaleDatingStrategy sub is great for teaching you about red flags. Just don't get radicalized by them (don't become a misandrist), because they have a lot of toxic things to say too. Their stances on porn, "polyamory", age gaps, and "pickme" pitfalls are generally solid though. I think you need to simply lurk there a bit (no need to actually join and I wouldn't recommend that anyway since like I said they are extremist in some a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:51 AM
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Of course it doesn't. Flat out, full on, literal cheating is not ok and nothing justifies lies in this regard (this will not hold back anyone though unfortunately). It'll hold back anyone who maintains integrity and values relationships. These thoughts only flourish in affluence. I don't believe that's true. There are social and cultural factors at play and if we look at current affluent society, there isn't a whole lot of morality being upheld most especially in the realm of human relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:06 AM
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The fact that many people are promising exclusivity, and fail to follow up (not just some, plenty, some studies show that about 60(women) - 68%(men) have cheated at least once) shows that sexual exclusivity (ie. monogamy) is not the only way people do relationships. In this regards, cheating is proof that monogamy and non monogamy is both part of human nature. Alright, but that doesn't prove cheating is an ok thing to do. All it proves is that several people choose to be lax in their ethics. "In…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:43 PM
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False. I claim that both monogamy and non monogamy is part of human nature. Fair enough. Is it not a proof? No. Just because something might be difficult for some people doesn't mean it's impossible and/or unreasonable. I recall asking questions, not making statements. I asked why do we have such expectations almost by default (despite the facts above), not stated that these expectations are unreasonable. Ok, I misunderstood you then. I'd say it's ultimately because there is supposed to be an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:06 AM
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You claim humans aren't naturally monogamous, you cite the fact that many people decide to be scumbags and cheat as "proof" that it's not really doable long-term, you imply that fidelity isn't a perfectly reasonable expectation to have by claiming it's "possessive" and to "treat people as property", etc. When one makes that promise of fidelity, it doesn't have to (and shouldn't!) be a false one. Nobody's holding a gun to the person's head forcing him or her to commit. People can love each other …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:22 AM
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I read some of these posts and just sit here thinking wtf kind of relationships have y’all had that made you so angry?? I wonder that at least once for every time I'm on this sub, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:29 AM
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Simps are boring as fuck. So a quality gentleman who actually loves and respects his chick enough to commit to her (as opposed to a f-boi who strings her along or whatever else) is a simp? Blatantly.... correct. Nah, just blatantly wrong. When I pet my dog I am manipulating him into feeling good. Without addressing in detail the problematic nature of comparing a romantic relationship to that of a dog and his owner, how does petting a dog in any way compare to playing head games with one's SO? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:14 AM
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Your whole post is rationalizing why you believe the expectation of loyalty isn't realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:03 AM
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WTF? Explain? The idea that commitment = boring. The idea that passion will inevitably disappear with commitment. Deep, deep inside we are all sluts. Blatantly wrong. No, no, no. Dread game and silent treatment are one thing. Not telling your GF where your limits are is another thing. It's all manipulation, which isn't conducive to anything meaningful, lasting, and fulfilling. I don't understand why one would want to be in a relationship with someone one couldn't trust enough to be open with. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:32 PM
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Correct; I didn't think of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:26 PM
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Because relationships, by their nature, are personal. You can't barge in aiming to rationalize cheating in a relationship and not expect pushback for your unreasonable take.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:46 PM
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This, but also being unemotional can be a glaring red flag for sociopathy depending upon various factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:12 PM
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Once man fully commits he has been conquered, and relationship can become boring. This is just the Madonna/Whore complex with extra steps. If woman knows what her man is thinking she will often push things to the braking point. NAWALT. If man doesn't open up she won't know where the braking point is, and her own dread will keep her away from pushing things too far. So in order to keep a relationship, use manipulation a.k.a. "dread game?" Lol that's not gonna lead to anything meaningful and lasti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:06 PM
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They'll have babies with women they won't marry. That's not full commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:20 PM
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You just wanted to rant about women specifically. That's all the majority of men in this sub ever do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:34 AM
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True that! 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:18 AM
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Good call, especially in this sub lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:43 AM
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Love your flair, btw!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:39 AM
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Nor am I, but sometimes they stick. If the shoe fits...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:37 AM
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Why not be a good human being instead? Says the rape apologist. 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:26 AM
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mUh MiSaNdRy. These cretins calling this misandry is a deplorable insult to actual good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:20 AM
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He's in a relationship? Yikes, that makes his comment even worse than it already was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:01 AM
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Username (unfortunately) checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:59 AM
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Oh, I see. I have indeed noticed there are many women here who are either married or in some sort of relationship, but they're pretty varied in their worldviews (some agree with mine, some don't, and some are a mix between the two.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:14 AM
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I wasn't aware PPD is only for those who are single. I just stumbled across it in my suggestions one day and having been intrigued, I wanted to check out the interesting-looking discussion topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:06 AM
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I'm happily married to a gentleman of integrity, one who isn't one of those"nice guysTM" who consider respecting boundaries simping, and he doesn't hold silly double standards either. I just wanted to point out that female virgins experience stigma too, because so many guys here seem to be mistakenly under the impression it's not a thing that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:44 AM
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I think those types are guys who would cheat but don't feel like they can cheat until they gain whatever it is (in the scenario you've outlined, that would be money and status) which gives them the confidence to know they can cheat. In which case they aren't good guys; they're simply opportunists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:47 PM
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You tell a man you're 25yo virgin, he'll fuck you in a heartbeat. And he'll do the same with a promiscuous woman (who he may or may not hold in double-standard contempt.) Your point? You tell a man "no sex before marriage", he'll be upset regardless. And if a woman has decided to wait until marriage for sex he'll try to coerce her to make a special exception for him, he'll tell her she's selfish and using sex as a weapon (even if she's a virgin who's waiting for moral reasons; ask me how I know)…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:34 PM
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Based because the worthlessness of "casual" sex and the value of monogamy and celibacy are being unabashedly addressed, and by someone who has lived that "casual" life no less. And no matter how many times it's stated, it remains true whether people want to acknowledge that or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:38 PM
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Yes, attraction is important to both women and men (lol don't act like you would marry someone you aren't attracted to) but a healthy romantic relationship requires both attraction and character. And yes, many women do go for character along with chemistry (I did and am happily married to a great guy.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:22 PM
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Because women only like bad boys, right? 🙄 r/niceguys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:41 PM
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💯 to both you and OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:26 PM
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It's true. By "quality guys" I don't mean rich f-bois, which seems to be what guys in this sub think it means. I mean gentlemen of actual character (who may or may not be rich, but wealth is irrelevant to what kind of person a guy is.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:00 PM
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Quality guys don't whore around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:42 AM
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Nope. Women who are wife-material don't want hypocritical players.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:44 AM
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Yup. And if the players want wife-material, they should be husband-material by not being players.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:23 AM
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What they should do is break up with players who are leading them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:28 PM
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👍🏻 I wish you the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:09 PM
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In a nutshell, they don't want to be forever-gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:24 PM
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I won't tell you whether or not to break up with your bf because only you can really know that since you're the one actually experiencing this relationship, but there does seem to be a mismatch in affection that I would consider a red flag to take a closer (and honest) look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:20 PM
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Can't believe I had to scroll so far down to find this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:50 PM
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A lot of RP men wouldn't seek marriage either, but there are exceptions. Her ex-husband sounds exactly like a garden-variety typical RPer to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:01 PM
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Based AF! Glad you're speaking out about it too. Also, so sorry what happened to you. I wish you all the healing you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:26 AM
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Well if those people want to marry marriage material, they should be marriage material too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:01 PM
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🤮 And then some people wonder why some other people don't want to date promiscuous people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:22 PM
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I had one of my FWB over last night who has blonde hair and she found a long curly brown hair on her leg from a woman I had over Friday. Yikes. 🤮 So you don't even, at the absolute least, change sheets between hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:14 PM
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Says the guy who is also hanging out on this dumpsterfire of a sub lol. I guess the truth hurts for you; plenty of women are literally saying they don't like anal but you refuse to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:08 AM
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I'm not loling at the women, but rather at your claim. More likely than not, they're doing it to please their pornsick bfs/husbands or they are pornsick themselves and are made to feel as if they're supposed to like it and so they convince themselves they do. If you read the comments in this thread the vast, VAST majority of women here (and even some men!) are talking about how bad anal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:51 PM
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A woman with a strap-on isn't being stimulated directly by pegging. True; it differs in that particular sense. It's more of a dominance / pleasuring him thing. The dominance context applies to many guys who want anal too. Some women 100% like anal, ask for it, prefer it even Lol. you are categorizing some women who happen to like anal as "pornsick" You didn't know that women can get pornsick too? Well they can and many are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:52 PM
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Missionary is uncomfortable for you? If not, that still doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:29 PM
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So would you be willing to be "a little uncomfortable temporarily for the pleasure of a woman?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 05:15 PM
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Yet you wouldn't do anything that would make you too uncomfortable while fully expecting her to. You wouldn't go ATM (which is perfectly reasonable; nothing at all wrong with that) but you'd expect her to "suck it up" for uncomfortable and maybe even painful/injurious positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:58 PM
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it isn't really the same thing Except it actually is. ​ Blowjobs were probably also considered extreme at many points in history and going down on a woman definitely was. Having sex during a woman's period or even being around her was also extreme. Using contraception... Extreme and maybe illegal for most of western history. 69ing? Extreme. None of those are really comparable to anal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:49 PM
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How is it not an unfair double standard to only care about your own comfort and expect the woman to "suck it up?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:46 PM
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The Kama Sutra includes instructions for "when and how to commit adultery" too. Does that therefore make adultery normal and/or healthy? No. Edited to add this comment from another Redditor further upthread: "The kama sutra explicitly says blowjobs are for trannies and anal will land you in hell so..." Heterosexual couples all across the globe were not widely participating in anal sex. Modern porn made that more mainstream-acceptable, at least to pornsick people. Anal used to be considered somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:34 PM
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OPs definition of passionate is “sacrificing more than one hole for him” So clear to say he has no idea what passion is outside of porn. Ditto!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:37 PM
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You are definitely onto something there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:35 PM
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That, paired with their obsession over "Chad", "Tyrone", and "alpha males" makes me wonder if they're not really heterosexual. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:14 PM
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You: Ass to mouth is not appealing or desirable. I mean, it looks hot on camera, but IRL I would be disgusted by it. Also you: For the second claim (looks good=/=feels good)... so what? If your man thinks it's hot, suck it up and try the new position. if I want to try a new position that feels awkward for you but it looks hot, suck it up and let me have my fun. Putting too much emphasis on how sex "feels" is to minimize the man's enjoyment. Unfair double standard there, doncha think?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:06 PM
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The difference between anal and those other acts is that anal is inherently dangerous because of health concerns; it literally takes special prep to do it "correctly" and even then it's still risky. And anal wasn't being actually normalized until modern porn started trying to make it mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:00 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:53 PM
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^💯
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:17 PM
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Based AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:01 PM
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Bingo! It's totally a symptom of pornsickness, because where does this normalizing of anal sex between a man and a woman originate? Porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:56 PM
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😁 Well stated!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:54 PM
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I can't seem to find anything recent on that (it was some time ago when I read it somewhere but I can't recall the source), but I can still provide evidence of the health risks of anal sex in general: Rectal Chlamydia trachomatis and Neisseria gonorrhoeae Infections Among Women Reporting Anal Intercourse Is Anal Sex Dangerous? A Gynecologist Explains Risk Factors for Anal Cancer ("Receptive anal sex also increases the risk of anal cancer in both men and women.") Cancer Risks for Gay and Bisexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:49 PM
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Even many homosexual men are not doing anal anymore because of its health risks. So yes, that is a pornsick expectation which has nothing to do with real passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:12 PM
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You can’t speak for all men when you say they don’t care about surgery. That’s an asinine statement make and comes off as something you’re saying to make yourself feel better. A good number of men prefer a natural woman. Yes, this. I got a keeper who not only loves me just the way I am but also prefers it (he even told me I'll still be pretty with wrinkles.) I wouldn't wanna be with someone who couldn't accept and be attracted to me as is, and through all stages of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:46 PM
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Is "natty" short for "natural?" If so, I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:38 PM
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Tbf they aren't referring to literal micropenises when they say that; they just mean average size is perfectly fine. Although there are some women for whom even a literal micropenis won't be a dealbreaker (I read a comment thread somewhere on this site under a post by a guy with such anatomy and there were more women than you would think who were fine with that and a few even straight-up preferred it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:48 PM
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Meat and potato types, not vegans who tend to have a much more varied diet. Lol much more varied, when you eliminate whole food groups? I won't even go into the negative health impacts of your malnourishment diet because you'll experience them eventually if you haven't already. And you really believe there's no corporatism in veganism? For-profit companies make the ultra-processed fake meats, fake milks, and so on. Bill Gates (who is not even a vegan, btw) has investments in such products. As pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:35 PM
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Ok, but RPers respond to a lot of those unverifiable stories with RP talking points claiming those unverifiable stories prove TRP right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:16 PM
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Not in their own personal dating experience, no. But that doesn't mean they can't look at other people's (in this case, women's) experiences and admit how effed-up it is. Otherwise they lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:10 PM
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Calling out bad behavior isn't a gendered thing, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:48 PM
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Unexpectedly based, considering the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:51 PM
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I don't understand how it's unrelated. If you want to bitch about men not being altruistic perfect beings who behave completely morally then it's perfectly fair game to point out that no human does this, isn't it? So every time you complain about a specific issue with women, I should shoot back with what men do? How about staying on topic instead and then moving onto other topics? Every time I see someone in this sub talk about bad things women do, no guy here jumps in to complain about men inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:27 PM
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A bare minimal amount of sexuality when youre in a long term relationship in order to have children is important. Everything else is unnecessary. Sex isn't only for reproduction. It's for further bonding as a couple. A marriage isn't gonna thrive as well as it could if the couple cut each other off after reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:06 PM
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And? That's his right. He doesn't need to do what you want to do. I never said he can't make his own choices. But that doesn't mean I or anyone else can't have an opinion on said choices, especially when they impact other people too. Ah so any mention of women's behavior is forbidden. No, but that's always the go-to of guys in this sub, always deflecting from men's bad conduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:22 PM
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C'mon, I know you've probably watched Dominion, Forks Over Knives and/or other vegan "documentaries" (talk about useless propaganda.) But whatever. Lol your source is The Guardian and you're criticizing mine? 🤣 (And just as I predicted, you automatically dismissed the sources you did deem legit and you'll probably dismiss these other ones I'm posting too.) Does Circular Reuse of Chickpea Cooking Water to Produce Vegan Mayonnaise Reduce Environmental Impact Compared with Egg Mayonnaise? \<sup>Our…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:11 PM
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🙋🏻‍♀️ \high-fives** Edited to add: Cool username and snoo btw! Your snoo somehow makes me think of the Parents in Anne Rice's Prince Lestat And The Realms Of Atlantis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:27 AM
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No you said they had no self control then backtracked. I said they didn't cultivate self-control; I didn't say they lacked it altogether but rather that they didn't utilize it as well as they could. Nobody is fully self controlled. That's a copout for not choosing to do better. I mean we can't just assume things. When someone has a sociopathic enough mindset that he views people as things to be used and straight-up hates them even while using them, it's a pretty fair assumption to make. I never …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:17 PM
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Yet you'll consider biased "documentaries" on Netflix that fit your narrative as reliable sources. But ok, here are a few non-YouTube links for you to check out (which you'll likely ignore or dismiss on sight): Tillage farming damaging earthworm populations: Reduced tillage practices will restore productive earthworm populations and help maintain soil structure and nutrient recycling Does a Vegan Diet Really Result in Fewer Deaths Than an Omnivorous One? Grazing livestock could reduce greenhouse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:59 PM
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Of course as a typical vegan you'll ignore anything that doesn't suit your agenda. We can agree to disagree, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:36 PM
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If they had zero self control they would just harass random women. Instead they limit their interactions with women to those they feel benefit them. So, bare minimum like I said. That's hardly what could be called fully self-controlled. And even that bare minimum is probably only done because there would be bad social or even legal consequences otherwise, depending on how bad the harassment would be. Women are similarly Machiavellian in their interactions with men, they don't interact with men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:00 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:06 PM
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Oh, so doing the bare minimum in the outward sense (not openly harassing women) = a self-disciplined gentleman. Riiiight. Again, using women as playthings isn't self-control, and if one does that while actively hating them it's rather sadistic. Serial killer vibes there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:04 PM
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I'm not the one with hurt feelings here, lol. You immediately came at me with an emotional outburst because you didn't like my criticism of militant veganism, and btw veganism is actually what harms the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:36 PM
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You're confusing self-control with selfishness. Using people isn't self-control.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:30 PM
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Well lucky you for not encountering militant vegans (or maybe you're getting all defensive because you are one.) They're rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:25 PM
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Men don't have to like you to fuck you. Yeah but that's an asinine way to go about it. And men's sex drive is too high to go monk mode because women suck as a whole. Lol by your own admission men be out screwing women they literally hate because they refuse to cultivate self-control, but women are the bad people. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:18 PM
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That's exactly what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:17 PM
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You've gotta be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:24 PM
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But why would you leave anyone you hate alone when you can be fucking them instead? A better question would be: Why would you want to, as you put it, "be fucking" anyone you hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:09 PM
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they are not interested in debate, just pushing an agenda. Absolutely true on all counts, but especially ^this one!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:01 PM
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Worse than vegans? Yikesss I don't even wanna imagine how bad that is. And wow, attacking you in DMs is definitely a move from the vegans' playbook. Lol love your username!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:59 PM
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The thing is that I have no qualms with a lifetime commitment, so I don't understand the necessity of marriage It's not really a lifetime commitment without marriage; it's playing house with one foot always out the door. The whole point of dating for me was for the right man and I to find each other in order to wed, and I most certainly didn't have to browbeat him into proposing to me nor would I have tried to browbeat him because that would've made a pathetic farce of mutual commitment. I didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:45 AM
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FFS, intactivists are sounding more and more like vegans who wrongfully compare drinking milk to rape and eating meat to the Holocaust, which automatically causes me to not take them seriously as well as strongly side-eye them for believing such comparisons are ok. Every cause I've encountered whose adherents do this has been partially or entirely bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:56 AM
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\dudes screaming about FDS have entered the chat**
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:50 PM
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It's what these degenerates call women, short for "femoid.". A sexist slur, basically. There's also the male equivalent of it: moid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:49 PM
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The time for an informed decision is prior to marriage and other entanglements. Ditto! I called him a derp-a-lerp earlier This made me snicker! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:04 PM
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As a woman I feel the same way on the matter of sexual past as the men here do, but without any double standards about it. I'd be heartbroken and livid in your coworker's situation, presuming his fiancee hasn't discussed it with him for honesty's sake so that he could truly know her and decide whether or not that's baggage he could handle. Make no mistake, even if she hasn't told him it's gonna come out one way or another and it won't be pretty when it does... and it'll be even worse if that hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:53 PM
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Im sure they as adults talked about their past Unfortunately that's not always the case; some people even outright lie about their pasts (especially when they're as wild as OP's coworker's fiancee's past was) so we really don't know how it is for OP's coworker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:44 PM
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I'm not one of those types, so I can't say from experience. Based on my observations though, it appears to be a female version of the Madonna/Whore Complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:40 PM
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At first I was confused and was going to say "But when she was with Jack she wasn't married to anyone yet" but now I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) you meant the whole movie her actual husband (who she married after Jack's death) wasn't even part of the main plot and was only mentioned at the end. Gotcha. Yeah, I too thought it was crappy that Rose never even bothered to tell her husband about Jack. Edited because I accidentally put "Leo" instead of "Jack", lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:30 PM
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^YES! 💯 I've noticed quite a few of your comments in this sub and you are so based.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:03 PM
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She wasn't actually married to Cal yet, but engaged. She really didn't wish to marry him either (and no wonder; he was abusive), but she felt forced to so that she and her mother wouldn't be destitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:01 PM
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As a woman, I think OP's coworker has the right to know, especially since for the time being he still has the chance to back out of commitment to her if he so chooses. He deserves to be able to make an educated decision. Ideally the coworker's fiancee would have already been honest with him about her past, but... unfortunately that doesn't always happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:46 PM
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they had decided not to have children for completely different reasons but are using the opportunity to virtue signal. Ding ding dinnnnnggg!~ We have a winner!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:03 AM
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This Purge Week seems tamer than last year's though, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:04 PM
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Lol this reminds me of Lloyd in Dumb And Dumberer saying "Chicks are for f*gs."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:31 AM
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The flowers in their hands should be replaced with D-pix on smartphone screens. Just because there might be suitors doesn't necessarily mean they're quality gentlemen worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:24 AM
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So, what do “dick appointments” with Chad’s off tinder do to “intimacy and love”? I'm not who you were replying to, but I couldn't help noticing how you (and so many other Reddit dudes) try to make it sound like nobody is against porn and promiscuity both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:53 AM
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And don't try to tell us that you don't watch it either But that's the truth; I actually don't watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:48 AM
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I cooked for my husband when he was hungry and I wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:30 PM
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I remember there being a hot-pink flair for it last year, so this time I didn't notice either at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:27 PM
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My, time flies! It's Purge Week already?!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:16 PM
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i don't believe in this theory, i think its too absolute and trying to generalize 8 billion people is never the smart play. ^This. Only certain types of women (gold-diggers, etc.) are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:17 PM
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The line that male sexual violence is worse is accepted wholesale and unquestioningly by the overwhelming majority of the population. Lots of things are accepted unquestioningly by the majority, but that doesn't automatically make them correct. I'm pretty sure most people aren't using that logic in an attempt to somewhat excuse female rapists though; they simply don't realize how destructive some female rapists can be even if they aren't the majority of rapists. You, otoh, are using similar logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:33 AM
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the pineapple zoomer haircut Lol! Ugh, I freakin' hate that haircut (and short haircuts in general.) Long live long rocker-dude hair!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:23 AM
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I always see self-proclaimed virgin women say they want a "LOW N COUNT" man. They never say a virgin man. When I was a single virgin, I was seeking either a virgin or low-n man (I didn't bother making nonvirgins a dealbreaker since virgins were so rare, but I did make related baggage a dealbreaker.) I'd also like to point out that in the link you posted, pornsickness was alluded to and that is something which is unattractive no matter whether the guy is a virgin or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:03 AM
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There is an aboslute, night and day difference in how these things are viewed, and handled. That's a societal issue though. You keep trying to distract with specific circumstances and society's attitude toward certain topics, but the core idea is that you believe men who cheat shouldn't be criticized as much as women who cheat, and with that I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:07 AM
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The difference here is that I'm not using highly-specific scenarios to partially absolve one sex of accountability. For the zillionth time, we can argue specific circumstances all night but when it comes to rape or cheating by itself both sexes should be equally to blame for what they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:55 AM
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sexual misconduct (rape/sexual assault/harassment etc) by men is in fact treated and viewed completely differently to sexual misconduct by women. The two things are absolutely worlds apart. We're not even talking gradation here, it's a night/day kind of difference. That can depend on the circumstances of the rape, though. Obviously it's rare for a woman to be able to overpower a man due to biological differences in strength, so drugging and/or the man having an extremely severe disability has to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:33 AM
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it's because they're trying to be more traditional now that the cock carousel is over Nope, I've always looked at johns and prostitution negatively. Also, I never rode the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:51 AM
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Numerous types of birth control exist. Sex acts that aren't PIV exist. So there is some, or even total if the latter option is chosen, control over conception. And again, either a man or a woman is rolling the dice with what should only be shared with the spouse when he or she is risking potential conception with someone else. You act as if it's not devastating to a woman if her bf or husband has a baby with another woman. While it's true that she can't be tricked into raising one so easily as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:23 AM
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Smh, still peddling that tripe I see. Well, I still wish you a merry Christmas! 🎄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:25 PM
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Merry Christmas! 🎄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:23 PM
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How would keeping ovaries make things more interesting? I figured that was about still having the hormones necessary for a functioning libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:16 PM
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Oh, there you are! I was wondering what happened to you. ​ my man was ready to leave me after my second kid. You deserve better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:11 PM
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Men rarely leave with the person they cheat with. That is patently false. Many do, especially ones who aren't legally married. And even those who stick around are still betraying their women when their women are at their most vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:15 AM
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I want to entirely avoid a man who has been influenced by redpill ideas entirely. My fear is the only reason men want to date is for sex. Now I know this is probably irrational The easiest way to avoid those types also happens to be the hardest (if you have a normal sex drive, that is) option to carry out: waiting until marriage (or at least until a LTR but I strongly recommend waiting for marriage.) It will easily weed out an astonishing number of guys who simply want to use you when they find …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:00 AM
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would you agree that the consequences of rape are the same for men and women? Just like with cheating, the particulars of each situation can vary and some are worse than others but yes, rape is equally harmful to both women and men. Cheating is no better when a man does it than when a woman does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:03 AM
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You and so many other guys here keep distracting with more and more specific circumstances when the actual topic is cheating itself. Cheating in and of itself is equally bad for both men and women. Apparently many guys here want to absolve themselves and/or their bros of responsibility in that regard, so they do mental gymnastics to pretend it's somehow not as bad for men to commit infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 06:07 AM
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I didn't claim child support is useless. Both parents should be responsible for their children. But child support doesn't undo all the other damage caused by a philanderer's selfish cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:09 AM
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A woman WILL NEVER have to raise a child that isn't hers against her will. What if the mistress wants the philanderer to have full custody and the philanderer is set on raising that child? The only way for the wife to get out of that is to divorce. I'll say you have a point that a betrayed wife couldn't be tricked into it the way a betrayed husband could, though (but even so, DNA tests exist.) But as I've repeatedly stated in various replies in this thread, if we're keeping to the general topic …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:05 AM
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Wrong again. He ignores the worst-case scenarios for women in his outline, which are as bad as the worst-case scenarios for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:14 PM
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You're conveniently ignoring that OP's statement is that cheating in itself is inherently worse when women do it, and the specifics of a particular scenario were tacked on in a weak attempt to back up that main point. There are varying scenarios, some of which can be worse than others in the sense that multiple offenses compound the hurt, but infidelity in itself is equally bad no matter whether it's a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:45 PM
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Ok, but that still doesn't make the cheating itself any easier for one or the other. I wouldn't say learning that one has been living a lie either way is less of a gut-punch. OP's argument is that it's worse when women cheat. We could always add in more repercussions to the cheating scenario (some psychopathic monsters cheat and literally murder their spouses so they can run off more easily with their scummy side pieces, for example), but the crux of the issue is that cheating in and of itself i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:49 AM
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He has still betrayed the relationship in one of the worst ways. Even if he doesn't leave, she likely won't be able to trust him again because he's already shown that he doesn't care enough to actually be faithful to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:22 AM
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It's never "just sex" though in either case. Sex isn't "just" something that should be shared around like that, especially after having vowed sexual and other commitment to someone in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:13 AM
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We are talking about cheating, not dumping. Cheating leads to dumping in many cases. And in the scenario I outlined, the dumping directly followed the cheating in a chain-reaction dumpsterfire of continued infidelity. It is because the man is using his resources to raise someone else's offspring at the expense of raising his own. When a woman is cheating on a man she could potentially terminate his whole bloodline. The same cannot be said about women. What if the wife/gf happens to be infertile?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:13 AM
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We are not talking about breakups. We are talking about cheating. Yes, and there are cheaters who leave their pregnant or postpartum wives/gfs for their mistresses with whom they have been cheating all along. And if he does abandon you he will be forced to pay child support. That doesn't lessen the upheaval that his cheating causes. True, but you know that those kids are not yours. There is no chance of you unknowingly raising kids that are not yours. Women have 100% parental certainty. Men don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:48 AM
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Men who get cheated on are seen as a big joke aka cucks. Women who get cheated on are seen as victims who deserve sympathy. First of all, both men and women who get cheated on are victims who deserve sympathy and both should be seen as such. There is a possibility a man might raise kids that are not his own whereas women never have to worry about that. True, but a woman might get abandoned during one of the most vulnerable times in her life, i.e. her man runs off with some thot while she is preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:11 AM
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Do you think experience is unimportant? Couples can and should gain experience with each other; there's no actual need to experiment with other people, especially with all of the info out in the open about the finer points of sex these days that couples can apply to their sex lives. Women have no issues with high n-count men Many of the comments in this thread, my own included, indicate otherwise. and this is validated by their behavior where they go after these men more than any other I conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:01 AM
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That is likewise true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:08 AM
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Lol you really think sex is so complicated that one has to screw around with whoever in order to get good at it? And if you're one of those guys who expects women to be low-n, how would this logic apply to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:26 AM
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I haven't seen the movie, but no it sounds like you spelled it right the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:44 AM
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When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: avoid the bad boys, the cool boys, and the commitment-phobic boys., the crazy boys. But d Do not date marry them. They things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands., and if you choose to date it should be for discernment of potential future marriage (but don't rush things either!) When it comes time to settle down, If you are serious about marriage as a life goal then you should prioritize mutual love, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:54 AM
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If a guy is good in bed, he has almost certainly been with a lot of women. Or couples can, y'know, practice together with their moves actually tailored to each other's preferences as opposed to doing a one-size-fits-all thing with anyone and everyone. It's not rocket science. And there are many promiscuous people who are definitely not good at it, judging from all the complaints I've read/heard about "jackhammering" and "starfishing."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:48 AM
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The likelihood of those issues increases with n-count, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:38 AM
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No offense (since you do seem sincere in your questioning), but this is one of the most ridiculous ideas I've ever read in my entire life. No, whoring around is not how a man shows he's provider material or anything else of any value. In fact it's a sure sign of the opposite; it shows he won't be as likely to build a life with one woman in marriage and be faithful to her. He's investing his energy in chasing thots, rather than reserving that attention for the right woman. Mutual love and passion…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:00 AM
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ideally he was never able to get a girlfriend in his life and no women are want him. If he's only "faithful" to you for lack of opportunity, then he isn't truly faithful. And if shameless homewreckers want him, he can't control their desires but he absolutely can control how he responds to them. And sis, unless he takes an unrelenting "Begone, thot!" approach there, he is not worthy of you. i would already perpetually feel like he deserves better than me, let alone if there's other women who wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 08:09 AM
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^This.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:55 AM
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Based hot takes you have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:09 PM
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Disclaimer: I probably don't represent the average PPD woman. I saved sex for marriage because I hold both sex and marriage in high regard, therefore I've always taken a serious approach toward both. do you care about a man's sexual history/body count? Do women care about a man's sexual past? Yes. One's past can affect one's present and future, and in order to fully know a dating/marriage prospect the context of that past must be known. Some women care more than others, but there are more women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 11:03 PM
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I gotta admit, that is a pretty witty zinger. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:03 PM
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how would you deal with your friends teasing you abt it ? Would you like to be seen in public with them ? Could you get past the lack of physical attraction ? You're arguing two different points here: other people's opinions on the attractiveness of who I'd be dating vs. my own lack of attraction to a particular suitor. The way I see it, real attraction is quite subjective. A man I might find to be gorgeous could be a man another woman finds to be completely unattractive or just meh, and vice-ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:57 PM
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I think the other commenter meant "Somalian."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:53 PM
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I’m not gonna ask him, I want to see if he likes me enough to work up the courage. what I may do is to start a conversation with him next time. If I see signs that he likes me I’ll start light flirting and see how he responds This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:40 PM
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^This lady gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:35 AM
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I'm inclined to say TRP, because at least FDS acknowledges that high-quality gentlemen (who they refer to as HVMs) exist whereas TRP generalizes all women, even the supposedly good ones, as hypergamous opportunists. Edited to add: In terms of bitterness though, I'd say TRP and FDS are about equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 09:27 PM
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I read some of those stories and they baffle me as well. Afaik I have never dated anyone that unhygienic, and those stories certainly make me even more grateful for my clean husband than I already am. u/thegtd22 has provided a plausible explanation and stated a valid point about yet another PPD OP blaming women for everything, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:45 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:22 AM
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Even if it were true (and I don't think it is since quality people do exist; they're just harder to find), no one has to condone it and accept that status quo. I have no qualms about calling out bad behavior no matter how common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 01:38 AM
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It's still quite possible to have kids in her 30s, and for a few women even at 40. Sperm quality also declines with age, fyi. Personally I'd care much more about my connection to the actual person, fertility or no, instead of choosing someone from a whole different generation who could be young enough to be my kid or even grandkid. There's also the possibility that you'd get with a young woman only to later find out she's infertile despite her age and doesn't want to do IVF or surrogacy; what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 01:32 AM
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I wouldn’t think any less of him. A man is only as faithful as his options. This mindset right here is why so many people are disgusted with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:33 PM
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minus 4 if she’s single mum (dealbreaker) minus 1 or 2 for being a small / huge bitch Interesting how you didn't list being a "bitch" as a dealbreaker. ​ plus 1 for every 7 years age difference between us That one pretty much speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:19 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 11:04 PM
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Hahaaaaaaaaaa!~ (Accurate) shots fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:10 AM
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This question is like being asked shot in the head or decapitation? It's irrelevant because both are oblivion. ^This.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:51 AM
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Interesting, I haven't noticed those similarities among hairdressers myself aside from the working hours and perhaps the gossiping. But then again I never really paid attention either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:39 AM
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Genuine question out of sheer curiosity: What do you have against hairdressers? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:06 AM
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Yep! And while they're at it they hypocritically talk about how bad women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:30 PM
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im pretty sure everyone is sick of trp because its nothing more than pickup artists with dweeby theories. ^This. manosphere more like mlmosphere. 🤣 *BA-DUM TSS!\* the typical response to something like this is "lets ignore that and focus on talking about if it works or not." just like a fucking cult ^This too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:27 PM
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Yeah I am getting such rapey, false sense of entitlement vibes from OP's premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:09 PM
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But they probably weren’t what OP is thinking of in terms of women a wholesome family man would go bang. A true wholesome family man wouldn't desire to cheat on his wife with a prostitute or anybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:53 PM
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Unfortunately, many men and women don't take this fact into consideration when choosing a partner and very needlessly complicate their lives. Sad but true. As someone who's recently gotten into the redpill Ah, so you're a newbie. Get out while you're still levelheaded, lol. Well you have my respect, hope there are more like you 🍻 if you look at my previous Reddit posts I myself am a virgin just like you (were) whom wanted to wait until marriage. Though after being redpilled I'm realizing that fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:56 AM
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Right! "The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:09 PM
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It's a certain type of man who puts women down and/or otherwise minimizes women in order to feel more manly because he has a skewed concept of masculinity and femininity. This type of man also tends to feel like he has to fit into some stereotype in order to be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:18 PM
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How is a woman making more than her husband or being smarter than him shitting on him? It's not. I think the other commenter was referring to the rest of the things on that list (being overly domineering, immaturely making fun of a guy she isn't interested in asking her out.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:44 PM
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Plenty of men and women whom they themselves are vehemently against red pill ideology on this very sub argue that sex can be emotionless and just a transaction. They use this as an argument in favor of "her past doesn't matter". Yeah, I didn't say it never can be emotionless (or if I implied that, I didn't mean to) but the risk of carrying all kinds of baggage from any given encounter is high for both men and women. And yeah, I'm not one of those people. I'm against much of TRP but I'm not one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:17 PM
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I see; yeah it can definitely be harder for people who aren't conventionally attractive to date. But even so, attraction is way more subjective than the manosphere would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:42 PM
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Why do you have a problem with it? You believe cultivating an attitude of sex (and women's bodies by proxy) being an entitlement and a commodity to use in commerce is a good thing for society? I bet you call yourself progressive. Not exactly. Looks pretty wholesome to me. Ah yes, ordering a woman like a pizza (directly paraphrased quote from the trailer) to use and discard is so wholesome. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:34 PM
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Men's bonding hormones are swept away by testosterone. This is utter BS. One of the main purposes of sex is the bonding of two people not one. Dudes in this sub will try to justify their own promiscuity or would-be promiscuity no matter what. Which is hence why a woman is tainted if she's been around then block and was ploughed. She might be thinking about her first time even though she's been in an ltr with a man for years. I've read so many comments in this and other subreddits by dudes who st…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:02 PM
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I'd say so, since he has gotten compliments from random strangers a few times. But he isn't 6ft. (I never cared about that) and doesn't look like a generic Chippendales dancer or whatever (I'm not into that look) if that's what you mean by conventionally attractive. If you're thinking this is a "gotcha" moment you'd be mistaken, because my husband has substance along with his good looks and good looks won't make up for an ugly personality. Ofc attraction matters in a romantic relationship/marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:38 PM
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If a minor: My husband and I would likely limit, or maybe even eliminate (except for supervised educational purposes) his Internet access for a time depending how deep into the ideology he is, and get him out more. We'd also thoroughly counsel him, get other counseling if needed, and administer tough love if needed. If not a minor: My husband and I would likely reason with and advise him in an attempt to get him to see the error of his ways. If he's so extreme into the movement that he becomes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:56 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:31 PM
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Imho, sex is meant to go hand-in-hand with committed (in marriage) love and should be a natural expression of said committed love. Sex by itself isn't love, but sex accompanying an exclusive emotional bond and real commitment is definitely a crucial component of romantic love. And yes, people should be honest with each other about their views on sex and their intentions regarding such; that's how those with compatible worldviews find each other without wasting time in dead-end relationships. N-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:26 PM
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There are men who are shy True that; I married a shy guy. Women who aren't into cocky attitudes likewise exist and can be largely invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:05 PM
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It's great that the disabled also get to experience it. At the cost of commodification and objectification, treating sex as something of an entitlement, with taxpayers' money at that. Real nice./s Yep, definitely agree to disagree here. Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:24 PM
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Correct, I have never.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:14 PM
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I as a male I am also aganist prostitution. I do not want transaction I want real emotions and true affection. 👑 Here, you dropped this. So based.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:58 AM
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Yet the "clients" consistently objectify the person in a way that would be considered sexual harassment or worse in an actual workplace. And sex isn't supposed to be a public "service" but I know we'll agree to disagree on that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:52 AM
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Prostitution and its Adverse Effects on Nigerian Society "Bad for the Body, Bad for the Heart": Prostitution Harms Women Even if Legalized or Decriminalized Comparing Sex Buyers with Men Who Do Not Buy Sex: New Data on Prostitution and Trafficking "Bitch, You Got What You Deserved!": Violation and Violence_in Sex Buyer Reviews of Legal Brothels
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:37 AM
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The OP claims women are against prostitution predominately for reasons that don't have anything directly to do with trafficking and/or making sex a commodity, but those are two of the biggest reasons I as a woman am against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:20 AM
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Well last I checked Reddit was a public site, so literally anyone "belongs" here. I get what you mean about many of the other women Redditors though; it is true that many of them seem to believe sex is trivial. Oh, and it's Mrs. 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:16 AM
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Except it actually does harm both individuals and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:10 AM
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I view sex as something far more intimate than "a service" and I view people as human beings whose bodies shouldn't be commodified as "a service" paying "customers" are entitled to. And plenty of prostitutes actually are trafficking victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:06 AM
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I guess if one views sex as nothing special. I view it as something that should be meaningful and exclusive, not a job and/or commodity nor comparable to such.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:14 AM
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So is having a ONS with a dude way out of your league on Tinder who wouldn't look twice at you in real life. Yes, "casual sex" in general is objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:09 AM
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The point is, human beings are not products and shouldn't be treated as such. Prostitution is one of the worst forms of objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:00 AM
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"Arguing that women have the right to sell their bodies is an attempt to hide the argument that men have the right to buy women." - Francoise Heritier
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:52 AM
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^Real talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:21 PM
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This is what the term "technical virgin" exists for. As in, technically one who hasn't done PIV is a virgin, buuut clearly one who has done other things (oral, homosexual acts, etc.) is not the same as a virgin who hasn't done any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:03 PM
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it means the man just wants untainted goods. Yet he is "tainted goods" himself and by being a hypocrite he is not worthy of an "untainted" woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:21 PM
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/thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:02 PM
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Also I am allowed to make observations in my comments just as you are allowed to make observations in yours. I never said you aren't. How would you know if the person was giving serial killer vibes without talking to them? Sometimes there can be instinctual cues about a person's behavior that can clue one in to said person having nefarious intentions. Your prior points made it seem like I MUST talk to every women whether they are attractive or not. Here is where you're misunderstanding me. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:00 PM
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It was unrelated to anything else in my comment. If it was unrelated to anything else in your comment or OP's post then it seems that would be an irrelevant point to the topic at hand. You already said you won’t talk to men you perceive as creepy, or dangerous. That means you will not talk to a man (make the first move aka motivation) unless you feel motivated to. Huge difference between not wanting to initiate a (platonic or otherwise) conversation with someone because he's/she's giving off ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:30 PM
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Iirc this sub was suggested to me, and the whole reason I got on Reddit in the first place was because Yahoo! had shut down their comment sections which used to provide me entertainment while checking my emails (they've since revived their comment sections but only to a point, so even now I don't go on there much anymore.) I was a lurker before I had an actual Reddit account. Anyway, I thought this sub had a funky title (I was only vaguely familiar with TRP and not really familiar at all with ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:48 AM
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you take the stuff you like are morally ok with from trp and disregard the rest. Ok but what I don't understand about that is what purpose the ideology serves in the first place, since all of the positive advice (watch out for red flags, get in shape and dress better to build confidence and make oneself more appealing, etc.) can easily be done without it. ​ Why do you think every man doesn’t have the ability to think for themselves? Pretty sexist don’t you think? When did I ever claim men can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:12 AM
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You can't read what's in the sidebar of your own ideology and a little bit of commentary about it tacked on at the beginning and end? Your own ideology is too much to read and yet you follow it? The things specified in that linked comment are what I'm disagreeing with, along with PUA rhetoric ofc; there's no need for me to type it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:56 AM
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you fully accept the reality of women, aren’t bitter about it, and you’re having the success you’ve wanted to have. Ah yes, this supposed "reality of women" doesn't sound extremist at all. /s <sup>See the lengthy comment by Fleischpeitsch under the main post.</sup> \<sup>With</sup> a description like that in the official sidebar (as opposed to posts from random dudes who are in what TRP calls "the anger stage"), a relatively well-adjusted person cannot really take this ideology seriously. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:40 AM
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You called it, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:02 AM
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I very rarely encounter flaky women in real life too. And that’s the point you’re misunderstanding. Awalt doesn't mean all women are going to be flaky. It means "hey dumbass, women have the potential to be flaky That sounds like basic street-smarts in watching out for red flags in dating, which can be learned without TRP. As far as nuances are concerned, you do realize most men who are experienced and at least somewhat agree with the red pill say something along the lines of “I don’t agree with …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:33 AM
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I think if a man tells you you look pretty, you take it to mean something different than when a woman does. Only in the sense that he's more likely to be saying it as a flirting tactic than a woman would be. However, I wouldn't automatically assume any man who tells me I'm pretty is flirting with me; it depends on the context. I think you generalize/interpret men’s actions differently than those of females. Nope I don't really generalize much overall; in fact I'm one to focus more on the nuances…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:27 AM
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I do too! 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:12 AM
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\hic** 🍷🥴🍷
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:09 AM
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Ooh, thank you! Nice to have snacks while I watch the fallout. 🍿 😋 🍪 I brought plenty of milk too! 🥛
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:07 AM
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I'm not being dishonest about anything, and I was addressing you rather than OP (I scroll comments and reply to various ones all the time in this sub and others) since it was you I was replying to. But ok, so OP said men always associate women's beauty with arousal and you disagreed by saying you can find things such as landscapes pretty without being aroused by them. But when talking about pretty women you brought porn and arousal into it (in the first couple of sentences of your first comment)…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:00 PM
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Notice How when I said little motivation To interact.... DOESN'T mean I WON'T interact... This statement means I will not go out of my way to initiate the interaction. Yet somehow you had to make it about a woman's looks instead of whatever other point you were going for. Being willing isn't INITIATING (which is the point I am trying to make) a conversation. So you initiate conversations with women based on their looks, even if the context is strictly platonic? If so, that's... not normal, dude.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:36 PM
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Plenty of men gaslight people the same as plenty of women do. Just because you haven't personally experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Plenty of humans, no matter their sex, suck. Plenty of other humans, no matter their sex, are genuinely decent people. It's better to assess human beings as individuals than as representatives of the entire male or female sex, the latter of which is what pill ideologies do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:58 PM
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So this means.... I owe everyone I look at.... a conversation. For the third time, I. Never. Claimed. That. All I said was that it's shallow to look at women (or anyone, really) as either "doable" (or at least pretty-looking) or NPCs. It's objectification. Why not simply see them as people the way you see men? It's not like you're gonna date the women you aren't attracted to. And no, that doesn't mean you have to talk to everyone you see no matter whether the person happens to be a woman or a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:50 PM
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typical female BS. See, this right here shows the negative bias toward all women that TRP is rife with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:13 PM
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Awalt means “you should assume all women have the capacity to be like that.” It doesn’t directly translate to “all women are like that.” That's... pretty much the same thing. If you're going to automatically assume everyone of the opposite sex is more likely to be a bad person, then you'll never truly see the good in any of them. That isn't the same as simply being street-smart about watching for red flags and assessing each person as an individual; it's a bias that will only blind you to the ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 06:56 PM
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No need for the condescending tone there, bud. if you think men can only be attracted for sex then it's easy to see why women make the misconception of porn being cheating. With my example of landscaping demonstrating that I can find objects beautiful without fucking them Now you're likening women to objects. And if people are being real about it, porn is an indirect form of cheating, obviously not exactly the same as direct cheating but the overall concept is the same: lusting after and even or…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 06:50 PM
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I don't swallow any of the pills but I can acknowledge that each one contains individual notions that can apply to limited segments of today's dating scene. The key phrase here though is "limited segments." I disagree with the bitter biased, extremist, sexist and often downright hypocritical AWALT/AMALT defeatist sh!t (which is the majority of what makes up pill ideologies) and how they'll try to turn something as complex as a human relationship into a statistical equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:13 AM
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This Post by The original poster…. Said that men can only see attraction as fuckable. The poster said all men see attractions as only whats fuckable. They did not mention porn in the OP. Correct, OP didn't mention porn; it was you who brought porn into the discussion. In your first comment, you said (and I quote): This explains why some women think looking at porn is cheating. landscapes can be beautiful without arousal.(unless you're pan-sexual?) If I see a woman I think is beautiful I'd be aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:44 PM
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If you were expressing an opinion you would not have made a false accusations of how you claim I view women. I was literally going by what you said, nothing more. The point of my pist was to illustrate I’ll still help people but, they aren’t entitled to my time. You limited that to women though. Do you view men the same way? Because what I got from your comment is that women are either fckable or pretty much worthless to you. You took that to mean I view people as objects…. Not necessarily all p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:54 PM
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Yes, I am free to respond to a statement just like you. I never indicated you aren't. You're the one who got offended that a feeemale replied to you and went off on a tangent over that. It's called Virtue signlaing. Nope, merely expressing my opinion in response to your opinion. That's kinda the point of public Internet forums. Just because you are a woman? right..... (You're reply implies that ALL men OWE women Conversation) I'm not the one ranting about how the opposite sex in particular (as o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:40 PM
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Lol why do you think I'm so desperate for a conversation with you? I simply noticed a statement and I replied to it just like I do all the time in this sub and in other subs; it ain't personal. Nothing to do with being "entitled" or whatever. Pretty extreme of you to go off on me for simply replying to your comment on a public discussion forum. But you clearly think you're inherently better than me and any other woman just because you're a man so ofc you project that onto me with the "just becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:17 PM
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Nice whataboutism, AWALTer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:05 PM
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This explains why some women think looking at porn is cheating. landscapes can be beautiful without arousal. Lol are you really comparing porn to landscapes? The whole point of porn is to arouse. ​ If I didn’t think she’s beautiful, she would at best be boring to me at worst ugly and I would have little motivation to interact with her.( aside from co-workers who I would be forced to interact with) I’m just not going to spend more than 5 minutes talking to her about her grandkids. Way to say you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:39 PM
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You. I like you. And your flair is great!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:25 AM
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They'll also try to distract with whataboutism by constantly comparing TRP to FDS. Now don't get me wrong, FDS is very misandrist sometimes and they hold certain double standards which ofc hurts their credibility, none of which I condone and all of which I will absolutely criticize. But at least FDS does contain quite a bit of real wisdom and calls out toxicities that mainstream society sweeps under the rug; FDS' goal is for women to avoid f-bois and abusers. Whereas TRP is ultimately about usin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:28 AM
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Exactly! But if a woman tries to point out all of these flaws in their ideology, they'll reduce her POV to "hoes mad" which is particularly funny when they find out I was a virgin bride.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 06:44 PM
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This sub goes on and on about how shitty and horrible women are, then you make a playbook to actively seek out shitty and manipulative women so that you can do less in a relationship. TRP in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:46 PM
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women have a problem with such women because them having sex with whoever and whenever they want without expecting anything in return destroys the market for their sex, which they want to be able to exchange for dinners, commitment and hopefully a diamond ring. Wrong. To me, sex isn't a commodity to be bartered in the first place nor is it a chore to be tolerated for material prizes. It's supposed to be an intimate (and ofc enjoyable!) union reserved for marriage, and as such I didn't do it unti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:20 PM
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I'm going by what you've said in your post and in this thread, which is a lot in terms of heavy-handed provocative ideas. It can be, yes. But it doesn't necessarily mean that; one can be closedminded due to bitterness and bias but otherwise intelligent. I never speculated on your intelligence level, just the conclusions you've made.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:05 AM
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No, not everyone carries toxic ideas. Issues, sure, but if those issues are properly dealt with then we can nip any toxic ideas that develop in the bud. Sorry you feel that way, but to be fair you are lacking a lot of nuance in your thinking. That doesn't necessarily mean you're a moron or anything, just incredibly biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:50 AM
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I never said you were stupid or anything (also, autism and stupidity aren't mutually-inclusive but with that aside I never said you were autistic either.) You do hold some toxic ideas about women and the family though, which makes you sound exactly like the typical RPer in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:13 AM
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You act as if it's never a choice. I had opportunities that I turned down because I consciously chose to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:33 AM
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When you say I am a muhsogynyst what do you mean by that? Specifically what exactly is a meesogynyst when you say I am one? It's clear that you harbor hostility toward women. You'll go on and on about how society devalues men (and I don't disagree with the points you've made on that) but then you'll turn around and do the same thing to women. Controlling is not bottling. I control my emotions, I self-regulate, I don't bottle them. At some point you have to face them though and deal with them in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:38 PM
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Um, no I didn't. My mistake, that must have been someone else I was replying to in another thread. My point still stands though; I'm certain that if you look hard enough at your upbringing you will notice influences (good and/or bad) instilled in you from your parents. The only way we can achieve - and have achieved - great things is if these align with our nature and with reality. Otherwise it's a false reality in which such false superiority complexes like racism and sexism both have their fou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:21 PM
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You act like you don't see women as people and you think it's ok to use them, so yes there is misogyny in your mindset. Bottling everything up isn't going to help anything; it will only make you a burnt-out parent. And if those who know you in person could see your posts here, they'd probably change their tunes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:19 AM
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You are arguing that both parents are needed to raise healthy kids and I am disagreeing with you. Growing up in an intact home is optimal, so both parents are needed. Extenuating circumstances exist, but they shouldn't be sought out on purpose. Both of my parents had almost no influence on my character. Yet you cited experiences growing up as influential of your perspective on women. Even if parents are absent, they still influence their child's worldview on some level. I would argue that those …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:19 AM
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You're clearly not actually dealing with your issues, given your misogynistic outlook that results from bitterness at your negative experiences in life. You're merely stuffing everything down in avoidance and ascribing to toxic beliefs that feel good to you but are ultimately detrimental. And you think you'll be able to raise a well-adjusted son or daughter with all that going on? If any such child turns out to be a decent person who also doesn't suffer psychological harm then that'll be in spit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:04 AM
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Wow, you're making so many assumptions about my worldview here. Spouses should be committed to each other first and foremost, yes (inb4 So YoU'd LeT yOuR SpOuSe AbuSe YoUr KiD, no that's not what I'm talking about.) Yes, there are women who have done what you described in shoving fathers away but NAWALT and I and plenty of other women don't condone that. And I never said men can't be trusted to raise their children alone; I said both parents being together is ideal so of course that applies to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:51 AM
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Yeah that’s the point isn’t it? Uh, yeah? There's no excuse to not be a decent person; it's not an impossible standard like you seem to believe. And I’m sure it makes you feel better about yourself to throw out these random strawmen and position yourself as morally better than everyone else behind an anonymous user name, huh? You're the one throwing out strawmen here; I only mentioned my marriage at all because you seemed to assume I was single and claimed I was too immature to date (by saying "…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:35 AM
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People can be decent without being impossibly perfect. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good; that is such a weak excuse for not trying. Also lol, you're like the 4th Internet rando over the past couple of years who has bitterly assumed my marriage is doomed to fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:49 PM
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I view them the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:54 PM
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How is it virtue-signaling to simply point out that immature toxic behavior isn't conducive to a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:53 PM
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Lol for all you know I may well be happily married a few decades. I get it, you're bitter so you decide to be a jerk to others. I say with all due respect, you need to work on that because bitterness won't help anything or anyone including yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:34 PM
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I'm happily married. But yes, players are not mature enough to be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:10 PM
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I'm not the one who needs to grow up here. Treating people like disposable objects is immature and sociopathic. Your flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:58 AM
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It is tough out there no doubt, but I still think it's wrong to place money over people (which is what tends to happen when people care that much about someone's wallet when vetting for a relationship/marriage.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:55 AM
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It's your decision which preferences you keep and which you don't. All I'm saying is that there are consequences to such decisions, not only for you but for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:51 AM
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It's still hypocritical because think about what you're doing here. You mention all the insecurities you have, do you think female virgins never have those insecurities? I know so many Redditors in this sub often imply or even outright state that women never care about things like that but it's a lie. Now imagine having those insecurities after having waited for someone who didn't wait for you yet who actively sought you out in part on account of your virginity (I'm not saying this to shame you …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:08 AM
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See for me, I only want to have sex with someone I love, preferably in a marriage or a committed relationship. If a woman told me "yes I've had sex in the past, but that meant nothing to me, I regret it and didn't enjoy it, in the future I only want to do it with someone I love", I'd feel less insecure because her and I would be on the same page and I wouldn't feel any insecurity with regard to her past sexual partners. I wouldn't be worrying if she would compare me to them, because I'd know it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:43 AM
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I don't think I'd call it hypocritical, but I believe it's shallow to care that much about a man's salary. Work ethic though, that's different because it's about the man's integrity instead of shallow status symbols. For example, I didn't want to marry a lazy deadbeat (laziness is a character flaw) but I didn't want a workaholic either (being addicted to work can also be a character flaw and besides, a healthy work-life balance is important to me and I wanted someone like myself whose priority w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:28 AM
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I think women in general are less used to that, and that's why there's this feeling that being rejected for a small facet that's beyond their control is actually being "shamed", when it's not. I don't think it's that so much as it's reliant on context. I've noticed plenty of promiscuous women especially will rag on a guy for preferring a virgin even if he is a virgin himself, in which case yeah they're often being unreasonable about it. If the guy is being hypocritical or otherwise dehumanizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:10 AM
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society pretty much makes you feel like you've failed at being a man if you're a virgin in your 20's. Yeah, and that's a problem. Society is wrong there, and it should be called out. ​ I've never seen women teased for being virgins. It doesn't happen as much as it does to men from what I can tell, but it does happen along with guilt-tripping from guys who aren't happy about their advances being refused. When I was a single virgin I once got accused of "using sex as a weapon" because I wouldn't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:04 AM
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No, that changes nothing. A woman is still being used as a means to an end and a child will be growing up in a deliberately(!) broken home, being raised by a parent who will instill toxic ideas (implicitly even if not explicitly) about male-female relationships and household dynamics. If you were truly MGTOW as the acronym implies, you wouldn't aspire to be a father because that's something which is meant to go hand-in-hand with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:50 AM
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my mind is garbled in emotional knots that have been getting ever more tangled over the years and I have never bothered to sort any of it out. You don't need a baby. You need therapy. I say that in all seriousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:30 AM
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You do not need a couple to raise a child. That is the ideal setup though, so that children can witness a healthy marriage and family dynamic, and be well-adjusted people. They can also learn such from other adults in their lives, but it's optimal if they learn it directly from their first teachers, their parents. And besides, a family should be grown under a foundation of marital love; the couple shouldn't regard each other as lesser-than. Why does it surprise you that I take a utilitarian view…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:52 AM
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I didn't claim it was my personal call to make; people can do what they want with their lives. What I meant was that it's understandable if a person calls out another person for hypocrisy, especially if they're considering dating each other. When I was a single virgin, you can bet I called out promiscuous (and wannabe player) guys who sought me out as a conquest or didn't hold themselves to the same standard they expected of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:55 AM
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I mean, if she really was regretful, I'd consider it That makes sense. The other person's attitude and feelings about his or her past is crucial in determining suitability for marriage, and I wasn't saying regretful nonvirgins should accept someone who is fond and/or proud of his or her past or some other such problematic trouble. It's when a double standard is held in that regard that it becomes wrong. I think people should have whatever standards they want when seeking a marriage and there doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:33 AM
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"Exhibit A" of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:22 AM
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I take absolutely zero issue with a virgin preferring another virgin for marriage or someone who'd rather marry someone else with an experience level similar to his or her own, just as long as no one (virgins and nonvirgins alike) is being dehumanized by being reduced to his or her virginity or lack thereof. It doesn't sound like that's what you're doing; you're simply aware of potential red flags that can (but don't always) crop up when someone has sexual experience. That's where vetting comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:54 AM
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Well what if a nonvirgin woman regrets her past too? Such individuals do exist. Does it make you a total hypocrite to expect a woman to love you enough to forgive your past without you being willing to do the same for her? (The answer to that question is yes.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:35 AM
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things like game and negging are just normal part of managing interactions/relationships with people (anyone who pretends they’ve never done something to make a partner jealous just to get a reaction is lying). These aren't things that should be accepted as ok to do. Where is the love in such toxic "relationships?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:53 AM
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It's sheer projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:43 AM
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Why do you assume I wouldn't care about her? You literally said all that counts are procreation and the child's feelings. You wouldn't see the child's mother as a crucial factor in the equation aside from biologically, and even that much is probably only because it's impossible to have a child without a woman's biological contribution. There's no love in the act of reproduction according to your view. And you'd find no real value in the woman as a person or in any relationship with her; she'd be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:59 AM
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I know the term misogyny is overused these days, but you sir are absolutely a misogynist. You want to literally use some poor woman as an incubator without a single care in the world for her. Absolutely abominable! Children are supposed to be conceived out of love between spouses who are fully committed to each other first and foremost. There is an apt saying (and it goes both ways, naturally): "The best thing a father can do for his children is to love their mother." A child being raised by you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:40 AM
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Modern feminism most definitely has its problems, but that still doesn't make what you did simping. And fyi, not all women identify with the current brand of feminism. It's unhealthy to hate an entire sex just because of one societal movement (I don't hate men just because current feminism's male-equivalent movements TRP and MGTOW exist, and I realize that there are men who do not identify with the toxic rhetoric in either of those ideologies just like not all of us women identify with the toxic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:22 AM
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The absolute most simp shit I have ever done was physically step in when I saw a woman being physically assaulted by her boyfriend of husband or whatever he was. That's not simping at all; that's going above and beyond to be a decent person (I say "above and beyond" because depending on your level of strength it could put you in danger too, but any decent human being would at the very least call the cops if witnessing something like that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:43 AM
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WTAF, that's a whole simperina fest! I... literally can't even.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:59 AM
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Based AF! Way to go, dude. 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:35 AM
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any woman who dates a man because she prefers guys who are strong and have nice thick hair will cheat on him when he ages and loses muscle mass and starts balding. The difference is that there aren't women out chasing jailbait or otherwise significantly younger men (aside from a minority of cougar outliers) no matter how old they themselves get, and women aren't the ones claiming that people of the opposite sex hit the wall at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:28 PM
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the entire pool of men going for the same small - and shrinking - group of women makes life hell for young men. Yet they'll whine about the "80/20 rule", haha. So much projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 10:19 PM
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Female Dating Strategy. It's a subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 09:53 PM
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/s \That's how it's supposed to look in a post. Example:) Data? Stats? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:36 AM
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What, the "/s"? Yeah, that's a symbol for "sarcasm" at the end of a sarcastic comment to show that you're not being literal. If you meant the thing about RPers, yeah that's a thing here too. They act like human relationships are nothing more than wild animal mating rituals being studied by National Geographic or something, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 12:11 AM
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You should've added a "/s" at the end. I thought you were serious too, because the RPers in here unironically post replies like that all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:05 PM
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/thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:39 PM
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Inkwells, huh? Oh wait, did you mean to say incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:50 PM
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Tbf she did say "most" not "all." I'm only here for the popcorn-worthy topics and comments myself, and to offer help wherever I can if someone is seeking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:00 AM
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Sounds like he's really reaching to rationalize the sexual double standard (promiscuous man=good, promiscuous woman=bad) but he still isn't making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:54 PM
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They might've mistaken it for trolling, since my tone was a bit lighthearted at the end. But my post was sincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:08 PM
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I tried to make the post you suggested last night, but the mods deleted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:35 PM
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Maybe you're not the target audience. Lol posting sexually-provocative photos is them clearly making simps their targeted audience. Let's not be disingenuous here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:14 PM
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Lol mods deleted this before I could finish reading it, but you're right about the narcissism of women who post sexually-provocative photos. That being said, everyone calling you out for stalking the profiles is also right; you're contributing to the problem by giving thots the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 08:13 PM
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This is the difference so many men here don't seem to understand. Guy crying over a death? Valid and nothing to shame him for. Guy crying because he's struggling with childhood trauma? Valid and nothing to shame him for. Guy crying because he's struggling with other trauma? Valid and nothing to shame him for. Heck, guy crying (happy tears ofc) at his wedding, or crying over a sad movie or something else emotional that pulls at his heartstrings? All valid and nothing to shame him for. You get the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:44 PM
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/thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:26 AM
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Women who are into the bald look will often go for a balding guy who shaves his head and beefs up (not like freakish steroid buff though, just natural working-out fit with defined muscles.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:07 PM
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Neither did I. I didn't even know what I'd gotten banned for since my comment was milder than what some of the others were saying to the OP (who was a guy with a gf and he wanted to peek at a mutual friend's tits; dude was legit wondering if he should ask her to see them! And on top of that he was making some hilariously and infuriatingly bad BS excuses about it not being a lustful thing somehow.) So I messaged the mods asking why I got banned since I had read the rules of conduct before posting…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:58 PM
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I decided to make a purity pledge to myself which I have never broken. I have been dating women in the hopes of finding someone who waited for me as well. Way to take initiative in your own life by practicing self-control and looking for something real, in spite of the current dumpsterfire of a dating culture! Seriously that is the way to go and this was so refreshing to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:45 PM
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Yeah, they exist. I'm the opposite (I love long hair specifically), but I have heard many other women say they love a bald (as in totally bald ofc, not male pattern baldness patches)+muscular combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:57 PM
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Are men paying to masturbate to women with degrees? Lol you're missing my point. Sexual roleplay is not that complicated. How long have you been married? Cuz things change over time. Long enough to have experienced both ups and downs in life together. And things don't have to change; it's just that many people stop nurturing their bond and that will ofc cause problems in some way or other. But it doesn't have to be that way and really shouldn't be that way. The commitment is exclusive. The sex d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:44 AM
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Oh ok, gotcha. Yeah it's good that misandry wasn't tolerated. It's no better than misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:10 AM
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Ohh I see. Well that sucks. The Handmaid's Tale remains solid at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:08 AM
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That's ironic, since those are the types of guys who rant at women for supposedly expecting to get Disney princes (because seeking men who respect them is too high of a standard, apparently.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:06 AM
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Lol your (current) username checks out! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:57 PM
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You're supposed to put a "/s" at the end of sarcastic comments. At least that's what I've observed on this site, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:36 PM
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I'm a woman, no pill really although I acknowledge that any of the pills can have certain valid points here and there on specific issues that apply to specific types of people and situations, but then they overthink everything and apply broad sweeping statements as unvarnished truth and take everything to extremes. Anyway, I got permabanned from the RelationshipAdvice subreddit solely because I used the term "pornsick" once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:31 PM
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I haven't read that book. I just looked it up and it doesn't sound like you've described but I'm presuming you've mentioned spoilers rather than a basic summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:12 PM
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Why, thank you! 😊 Perhaps I will, when I have the time and attention span to read all the notifications that'll blow up on such a post. I have read The Handmaid's Tale and surprisingly found it to be a poignant novel (I was expecting it to be a hyperbolic rant about certain conservative and/or Christian values in an attempt to be "edgy" or whatever, but it really wasn't that at all.) I can't say I have a particular opinion on the show though, since I've never watched it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:36 PM
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AF/BB is really just women's Madonna-Whore dichotomy. Yes, I've been thinking this ever since I learned about AF/BB in this sub! Where do women have a Madonna-Whore complex? Have a look around you'll see it. Whenever women use Tinder to "blow off steam" after breaking up with a boyfriend, that's the Madonna-Whore complex in action. Whenever women talk about hookup dick and boyfriend dick. Women's magazines often talk about women fucking the whore and getting comfort from the madonna Indeed, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:39 AM
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we STILL apply the Madonna-Whore dichotomy to men, while there is ample evidence that women are doing it too. Women do that how? If you mean AF/BB then I agree (obviously not all women though, just like not all men have the Madonna/Whore Complex.) And so, while 2nd wave feminists were making a big deal regarding the patriarchy and men's Madonna-Whore dichotomy, there's no discussion about the rise in women's Madonna-Whore dichotomy, which I've seen really become prevalent in mainstream media in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:26 PM
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Hmm, deleted account I see. I must've struck a nerve. Well to anyone else reading this thread who wonders what I think, I'll address the points anyway: Interesting how you dont even consider your husband as history. Have you ever even questioned why you're even here married and fufilled wife? I do, but there's a clear difference between waiting until marriage and not waiting until marriage. As for why I'm here, the discussion topics fascinate me; it's really no deeper than that except when peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:16 PM
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I think most here would agree it's sex outside of LTRs, but I take it further than that since I'm one of those wait-till-marriage types. I think there are varying degrees of promiscuity though; serial monogamy is quite different from ONS for example, and FWBs is kinda in-between those two. And higher n-count = more promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:06 AM
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Lol what history? I literally have only one sexual partner and he's my husband. One can refuse to be boxed in without having to identify as gender-neutral or something. I believe that too much complementarianism is bad because it reduces both men and women to roles and doesn't take them into account as individual people, but that still doesn't mean they can't be distinctly male or female just because they might not fit a complementarian stereotype (for example, a man who is a stay-at-home-dad or…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:54 AM
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I know of the types you speak of and I did account for them since I said you're "predominately" (not entirely) encountering other overtly promiscuous people in hookup scenes. But not every would-be promiscuous person has a super high n-count, whether that be because they can't get more people to take that kind of interest in them or they feel religious guilt despite their efforts to go contrary to that, or they tried it once but didn't like it, etc. There is a clear difference between them and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:53 AM
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I literally posted fhat not all women Yeah, and you also posted that women who aren't like that almost aren't even considered women to you. That shows a strong hateful bias toward assuming women are somehow inherently bad. Youre just unable accept that youre grouped in with something I posted that hit a nerve I don't see why it would hit a nerve with me if you're referring to promiscuous women. I am not and never was promiscuous, and it isn't that I'm "different to all other women" but that not …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:03 AM
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Each person, no matter whether male or female, is in control of his or her own sexual decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:29 PM
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Actually, I have. But I don't swing that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:27 PM
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That's a lot of words for "I don't want to take any responsibility for my own decisions so I'm gonna blame scientific-sounding speculations that equate rational human beings to animals."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:22 PM
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Some, some women somehow do come out of these bodies and grow but they are really exceptional. I would even hesitate to call them women at all. You really need to get rid of that misogyny, dude. The problem I have is humans that refuse to leave their own generalisations and band together while expecting the other side to do all the work. But that's exactly what you're doing with all this hooking up and AWALT thinking (and yes it is AWALT thinking when you literally hesitate to acknowledge decent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:15 PM
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Men and women value different things out of each other and that's natural. You're conveniently forgetting that there do exist women who value chastity in men. They won't be promiscuous women, though. I'd expect my future wife to carry a baby for 9 months that's a rule for her I don't hold myself to. You'd "expect" it as "a rule?" Having a baby should be a joint decision, and given that the wife is the one most (physically) affected by it the husband especially should care about her views on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:39 PM
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It can only be solved by both women's actions and men's actions. If it's only one or the other making any real effort there will be an imbalance because all of the blame is being deflected to women when the men are just as capable of making their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:24 PM
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Yeah, they have a lot of support for their ideas from their male peers on Reddit. So they're enabled to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:19 PM
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Yes, promiscuous women tend to do that. But in the scenario of women being worried about men thinking they're sluts, it stems from... men having the Madonna/Whore Complex (since those men generally aren't waiting for marriage either.) And women aren't the ones making these outrageous "Would You Rather?" polls on Reddit, from what I've seen thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:17 PM
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But why? Because one cannot truly value sexual exclusivity in this way unless one practices it too. Otherwise it's a "rules for thee, not for me" mentality. How is this blaming anyone here either? It's placing all the blame on women when guys say things like "Well if women would do x then I would do y" because said guys aren't taking any responsibility for their own actions. The fact is, both men and women who hook up are equally to blame for hookup culture; it's impossible to have intercourse b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:08 PM
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^This right here! As someone who was a virgin bride, I steered clear of guys like him. They aren't worthy of women like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:42 PM
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If women made men feel like being chaste would give them more options they would do it. Or they could simply exercise their autonomy instead of blaming others for their own actions by deciding on their own to be chaste and seeking out likeminded chaste women. There do exist chaste women who are seeking chaste men. But since chaste people in general are in the minority, being and finding that takes more effort than most people are willing to put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:24 PM
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What I don't understand is, why do guys in this sub constantly insist with these insane and soulless scenarios that people can't have both love and desire at the same time and with the same person? It's like all the dudes here suffer from Madonna/Whore Complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:54 PM
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That isn't why the double standard exists. And women who aren't promiscuous themselves will have more of a negative opinion of promiscuous guys than promiscuous women will, because promiscuous women don't believe n-count matters either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:45 PM
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Its difficult, in their minds, to justify the extra effort Yeah but if they're still sleeping with women like that then they really cannot reasonably complain. They're directly participating in promiscuity themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:36 PM
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I would gladly put more emotional, social, financial effort into maintaining a relationship IF the person on the other side had anything OTHER than her sex to offer Well since you're a high-count man, women could say the same about you. And your whole post is a whole lotta words for "I view women as sex objects and their pesky personalities and needs get in the way." (Tbf I'm sure you've met many harpyish women because they definitely exist, but you seem critical of all women not just certain ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:32 PM
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It is true that some of the complainers are promiscuous women, but I understand their POV too in this regard... I mean, if a promiscuous woman has men aiming to sleep with her but then they're criticizing her for doing so when they are doing the same thing, that is a hypocritical unreasonable expectation. Either it's ok for both or it's ok for neither; there can be no compromise on that. But yeah, I likewise oppose their view of removing the standard altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:06 PM
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You're welcome! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:57 PM
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That's like saying that you can learn to be a nurse by practicing with your partner. Being a nurse and sexual roleplaying are two very different things. I don't think one needs a degree for sexual roleplaying, lol. In fact, most women aren't. And that costs them points with men. There exist men who are likewise not into that (I married one of them.) But some women do. Yeah, some do. That doesn't make it a good thing though. If it's real and committed you should do anything for your man right? Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:56 PM
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There might only be a few super-promiscuous players (this sub calls them "chads"), sure, but "serial monogamy" goes on all the time among other people. If more people waited until real commitment (taking marital vows) then that would solve this whole argument. But not many wanna put in the effort required to do that because it's no fun, lol. That's really the only way to help matters though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:42 AM
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I believe that the people who preach that the double standard is unfair don't actually give a hoot about the unfairness of the double standard. If they did, they could solve the problem themselves. It's much easier to control yourself instead of insisting the world to change for you. I controlled myself by waiting until marriage and I refused to date promiscuous players when single. I still hate the double standard because it is unreasonable; it takes both men and women to create a better dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:52 AM
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I'm glad, and you're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:16 PM
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Sorry that happened to you, and I'm glad you're now aware of how wrong it was and that it wasn't your fault!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:23 PM
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Did you learn how to do themes from practice? Any of that can be learned with practice and communication. C'mon I think that all women have been curious about it at some point. Maybe, but not everyone is actually into that. you need to pay attention to both of the guys, all the time. And then you might have a situation where one guy is about to cum, and one guy is going soft - what are you going to do about that? I've no interest in threesomes, so none of that is relevant to me. You can have bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:19 PM
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I agree that long hair is the default and it's very beautiful and handsome on men, so I wish more men were encouraged to grow it out / not have to go to the barber to trim it all the time! Same here, sister! My dude's hair is longer than mine, haha (and mine isn't exactly short.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:35 PM
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You may deny not experiencing attraction like they do, but the biology is there. I don't know if I experience attraction exactly the same way men do, but I can relate more to how they experience it than I can relate to how you experience it. When I was single it was always my conscious mind telling me not to entertain it (because sex is something I consciously value as accompanying love and real commitment, not something I'm supposed to share around) rather than straight-up not experiencing desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:36 PM
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The customer is always right. Lol tell that to all the people working retail who deal with unreasonable stupidity from customers day in day out. There are many things that you can't learn on your own. I didn't learn solely on my own; I learned from practice with my husband in addition to theoretical knowledge before that. Okay. Let's say that a girl wants to try 2 guys at once, the guy has never seen porn. How is that gonna work out? That's just one of the many perversions porn helps normalize (…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:25 PM
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I'm a woman but I cannot personally relate to your first comment at all. And I agree that all the splintering of terms is a bit much; to me demisexual just means having standards and/or morals... I'm opposed not only to hookup culture but also premarital sex at all so some may classify me as demi but it's not that I didn't feel such attraction when I was single; it was just that I didn't act on it in terms of being sexually active because I was saving that for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:35 PM
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But men of my generation expect a porn star. And that's a problem. Funny how they'll say they know porn isn't real but then expect porn in real life. So you can be told about sex but you can't see it? What's wrong with women exploring their sexuality? There's no reason to watch other people do it in order to learn. I learned just fine without that. Sexuality is to be explored in marriage (that goes for both men and women.) ​ But Instagram gives women unrealistic expectations of life. Not to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:01 PM
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^This. And more likely than not she will sense his true feelings at some point anyway, making their inevitable breakup all the more bitter due to him deliberately having wasted her time and having inflicted self-image and trust issues upon her that she will most likely carry over into her next relationship. It's an utterly despicable sociopathic thing to do to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:32 PM
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Honest question: Do you identify as asexual? Because that sounds like asexuality to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:21 PM
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How is it supposed to happen? Wow, you really think no one was able to figure it out before Internet porn was invented? It's not rocket science. It's supposed to happen by learning with one's own spouse (and it is possible to have rudimentary knowledge of some things in advance without actually having done and/or watched them, especially in today's open society in which people talk about that stuff.) Lots of women have perverted fetishes too. Yeah, because men aren't the only ones addicted to po…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:43 PM
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This sounds like AFBB just from the female perspective. That is exactly what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:19 AM
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How are they supposed to lern about sex then? Rofl! As if porn is a good teacher for that. Mostly what's learned from porn are deathgrip and perverted fetishes. I learned about sex just fine without porn; they can do likewise. Social media tells women to aspire to unrealistic lifestyles. So does porn, with its more outlandish genres and scenarios. The difference is not all users of social media fall for its illusions, but porn users always do to varying extents. So what do you want men to do whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:45 PM
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But social media doesn't? Riding the carousel doesn't either? Men are going to watch porn. There's no way around that. Anything can be addictive, social media included, but let's not pretend the negative effects of social media are on the exact same level as those of porn. Porn is inherently unhealthy, whereas in the case of social media it all depends on how one uses it. Riding the carousel is every bit as bad as if not worse than watching porn. I never said riding the carousel is ok. More men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:48 PM
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There is no such thing as "pornsick". Oh, but there is. Studies have shown that porn negatively impacts the brain. Men bring money and resources. Women bring youth and looks. That is a laughably simplistic view. Men don't know how badly most women hit the wall. Unless they've lived in an isolated cave all their lives, they have seen elderly people about. Btw, men age just the same. Men can have casual relationships just like women. Just because people can do something doesn't necessarily mean th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:37 PM
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It was never historically the reason for marriage. Just because something has historically been done doesn't mean it's necessarily the best way. Before advertising companies sold women on it love was never a part of why people got married. It actually began from a societal standpoint with courtly love not advertising companies, a reflection of the status-quo at the time which was arranged marriage while discreetly keeping mistresses on the side (hence its emphasis on adultery, since people would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:02 PM
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I agree that some attitudes being pushed in today's society have undoubtedly encouraged and enabled more women to become abusers. I don't believe marrying for love is marrying for the wrong reason at all though; that should be the reason a couple marry (and that was the reason to marry for both me and my husband.) Agape has to be included with the eros though, otherwise the commitment won't be taken seriously enough when things (financial problems, health issues, aging, etc.) get tougher. You're…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:31 PM
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It's a benefit for men because women have to bring more to the table in terms of looks and sex. Yet pornsick men still treat women like sexual objects, by far more than non-pornsick men do, and often to their own detriment hence pornsick men being the biggest whiners about feeling lonely and not getting to pair off. It doesn't make sense for men to be with old women. If the woman is the man's own age, then she isn't too old for him. And if the couple get together while both are young, there's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:27 PM
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obviously there's way more selfish women than men I disagree there. Both can be selfish and selfishness is equally in the faulty nature of both. All people have to work at not being selfish (I don't mean self-care which is good for oneself; I mean legit self-centeredness that is harmful both to oneself and others.) Not all divorces are for frivolous reasons; quite a few are due to infidelity and/or other abuse. And many more, I think, are due to trivialization of marriage in general. It's not al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:14 PM
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I'm not religious and don't know if women there would date someone like that. Some would. Ask me how I know. 😉 My husband was identifying as Atheist when I married him. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that a devoutly religious woman will expect to wait until marriage, not just until she's in a LTR or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:37 PM
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I understand what you mean. Apparently "redpill" and "bluepill" terms did start out as references to politics but I don't think many people are aware of that (I wasn't either until my husband explained it to me), especially given how many people are snarking at you in here (ofc many if not most people in here are bitter so they'll jump at the chance to snark at anyone.) But the terms have since evolved into something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:22 PM
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It's only a problem for women who fail to live up to those expectations. It's a problem for everyone - women, men, society at large. There will always be suckers. Real quality gentlemen aren't suckers if they seek out their counterparts: real quality ladies. The type of women who want marriage are usually out for divorce rape or let themselves go once they got the ring. Nope; I got married because I'm in love my husband and with the intent to never divorce, and I still keep up my appearance part…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:37 PM
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Lol I'm older than you think, and I got married at an older age than you think. So no, I didn't change my views on this with age. Status or lack thereof isn't what causes divorce; selfishness and lack of love are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:28 PM
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Yeah, abusive parents are another common thread in it all. Not really sure which is worse. I imagine they're about even.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:46 AM
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People are free to do what they want and unless they want my advice I won't try to stop them. But that still doesn't mean I have to toe the "It's all good; there are no wrong ways and I think everyone's doing just fine" line.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:34 AM
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True, a lot of it is simply common sense but sadly so many girls haven't been taught these things growing up so they have to learn wherever they can. Unfortunately most learn from bad experiences, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:30 AM
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BS. You don't have to believe me, but it's true. As for your questions about my husband's job, I won't share such personal info about what he does for a living on Reddit but no, I didn't ask him what he did. We met in university though, so I already knew (after we got to know each other) what he was studying for anyway but he ended up not working in that field. And I helped him get an apt. when he was struggling financially due to unfortunate circumstances and he was still poor (yes, poor!) when…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:27 AM
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Money/status wasn't even a consideration when I was vetting for my husband. Work ethic, sure, but that's different because it actually tells something about the person's conscientiousness and work/life balance (I didn't want a lazy deadbeat but I didn't want a workaholic either.) Chasing money/status isn't really about attraction at all; it's about practical (and in most if not all cases, shallow and/or transactional) concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:11 PM
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I agree with FDS' stances on porn and "alternative" lifestyles (poly, etc.) as well as certain toxicities/red flags they call out which denote misogyny (I mean real misogyny, not getting offended over the word "manhole" or whatever lol) and/or other bad traits/abuses, the harms of being a pick-me (a real pick-me, not simply a woman who is kind to her man), things like that. Where I draw the line and disagree with FDS is in their sociopathic approach to relationships (I understand most if not all…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:54 PM
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Lol! Yeah that's one of the things I disagree with FDS on (I agree with them on a few things) and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:29 PM
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How else could she be attracted to you if you exclude the external reasons like money or status? Only golddiggers are "attracted" to money/status, which ofc is not genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:25 PM
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I'm settling in for the show! 🪑
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:21 PM
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It really depends on intent and context more than anything as to whether or not something is objectification. A few examples: Dude makes an overtly sexual flirty remark/move to his wife to indicate he's in the mood = generally not objectification Dude makes an overtly sexual flirty remark/move to some random chick or an acquaintance = objectification Dude sees an attractive chick and wants to ask her out. Does he: Say he thinks she's beautiful and would like to get to know her, ask her on a date…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:42 PM
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Men get all their ideas about women from porn. That's a problem. Most men are attracted to women in their early 20s. Which is why it's important for women to seek out the men who aren't fixated on that one age demographic if they want something real. The men who are, are the types to trade their wives in or otherwise cheat on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:53 PM
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Young guys don't know what women look like after 30-40. Riiiiiight, because they have never seen a 30-40-year-old woman before. 🙄 They've only ever set eyes on women their own age and younger, and they're utterly ignorant of how the human life cycle works. The more important question is why women want to stay with men who are not sexually attracted to them. I agree this is an important question, as in why any woman would want a guy who is fixated on one narrow age range; it's pretty much a guara…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:31 PM
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Everyone knows people age if they live long enough. So yes, he did make an informed decision. If he didn't think he could remain attracted and faithful to her then he shouldn't have married her to begin with and shouldn't have wasted her time by continuing to date her indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:34 PM
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Since it's okay for women to reject men tjat they don't have chemistry with, it's also okay for men to reject women when they get old. The difference here is that "Chad" is breaking literal vows of lifelong commitment he knowingly and willingly took whereas Barb in OP's scenario isn't even starting a relationship with Bob, with whom she just went on a few getting-to-know-you dates to gauge whether or not they'd have potential as a couple and she found that they were incompatible in the chemistry…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:20 AM
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I thought it was Kim's porn that snagged their claim to fame...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:19 AM
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The guys who are determined to insist their biased beliefs are indisputable universal truths are those who refuse to see nuance, and that is the problem with their thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:53 PM
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Tbf, there is a difference between outlier age-gapped couples who just so happened to fall in love with each other specifically vs. the more common older creep/younger gold-digger purposely seeking out an age gap for nefarious reasons. I won't assume which category your relationship falls into either way, but if it's the former then I don't think this post is really about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:57 PM
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Even in the current degenerate climate, monogamy is still thriving among the couples who truly value it. It's just that the new "status-quo" is being pushed so much more loudly which makes it seem more popular than it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:36 PM
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Nope. It's bad for women which why they're so mad about it. Especially the spinning plates thing hits right in the taco. For once I agree with you! RP does nothing but use and abuse women, as far as I can tell from my observations of its proponents in here. As for "having several options" it's not the fact that guys have options; it's the fact that they see women as interchangeable objects, caring about none of them. Monogamous love and commitment (especially when there are "options" that one is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:08 AM
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Go ahead and think that all men are stupid for caring about it I don't think anyone is stupid for caring about it (as long as they aren't dehumanizing others over it, but that clearly doesn't seem to be the case with you.) I feel like a man in a woman's body for seeing this issue the same way, considering all these other women in the comments acting like it's not something that matters even a little (and it matters both ways.) But that's what hookup culture has done to people...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 06:59 AM
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You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:04 PM
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You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 02:01 PM
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Would you say that women and men...uhm... value (?) sex differently? Because I could imagine myself being at least sad that my girlfriend liked to do something with her ex but doesn't do with me. No, not all men and women are that different from each other. There exist women (probably mostly virgins, but virgins who are also not naive about these matters as a concept) who care as much about that stuff as you do. In fact, when I was a single virgin myself one of the things I made sure to avoid wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:42 AM
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As a woman, I too am sarcastically amused by those hamstering responses. Why won't they just admit it's valid (for both men and women) to be genuinely put off by something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:29 AM
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You're probably one of those people who cries DoN't KiNk-ShAmE, yet you'll shame someone else with accusations of homophobia for not being into your kink. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:37 AM
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Cool, you're welcome! ^_^)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 02:14 PM
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Lol! I watch anime as well. Here are a few recommendations if you haven't already seen them: Psycho Pass, Death Note, Pet Shop Of Horrors, Samurai Champloo, Oh! Super Milk Chan, Vampire Hunter D...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:35 AM
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Daria started out as a Beavis And Butthead (another funny but way less cerebral cartoon, lol) character. Later she got her own spinoff show. It's one of my favs, but I understand if it's not your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:51 AM
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You'll eventually get a bullseye if you throw the dart enough times. Yeah but at what cost? Doing that'll jade a person big time, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:53 AM
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You're welcome! ❤
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:47 AM
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We see how letting people "live their own lives" affect others. It used to be "Oh, that aren't hurting anyone, just let them live their lives!" That couldn't be further from the truth. People will always ask for more and more, thus infringing on the rights of others. It no longer is just about them, but society as a whole. You are on a roll tonight! Username does not check out, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:38 AM
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Because sex should only be between two people who are in a loving, commited relationship. Everything else is degenerate. Anyone else creeped out that in order to lower incidents of abuse and rape, we have to sell men pussy? Exactly! And in truth it does not lower those incidents; it only enables men to further view women as objects to be used. "Arguing that women have the right to sell their bodies is an attempt to hide the argument that men have the right to buy women." - Francoise Heritier
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:35 AM
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But like…does this dilute the idea that sex should be about passion and romance and human emotion? Trying to quantify and commodify every facet of life and especially sexual behaviour seems like a cold and boring existence to me. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:31 AM
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I don't want it to become just another job. I don't want unemployed 18 year old men and women to be referred by the job network in my country and then cut off payments to starve because they won't let a pimp organise an endless stream of wealthier people to use their bodies. I don't want the sheer Dickensian awfulness of that Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:30 AM
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"HoW wOuLd YoU kNoW? yOu HaVeN't HaD mAnY rElAtIoNsHiPs!" Not all people need to go through many of the same or similar experiences to learn something, Nicole. Exactly! They act like observation of others' screwups isn't a valid way to learn what to avoid, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:23 AM
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I just hate that I’m like this and I am trying to change. Ok now we're getting somewhere! You obviously see where you're going wrong and you want to change the course of your life and your marriage for the better. I have some strong recommendations, and you may not like them because they aren't the easiest/most effortless options but they are the real solution: So, in order to tackle your wayward feelings you first need to quit acting on them. You mentioned actively flirting with other women; th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:39 AM
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people say "well if women said no sex until you give me commitment" which might be true, but that also confirms what a lot of men say that a lot of women like to push back on is most of women's value to man is sex🤷‍♂️ That, plus it conveniently absolves all men of their own responsibility in choosing to wait for commitment as well (it takes both to make that truly work.) They act like they wouldn't have a choice if a woman were to approach them for sex, as if they can't refuse advances. What's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:47 AM
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Christianity and fundamentalism aren't inherently mutually-inclusive. I actually scare fundies/radtrads because I'm an eccentric chick who's married to an equally-eccentric hippy-haired dude, lol. One subreddit I frequent, FundieSnarkUncensored, actually points out everything that's wrong with fundamentalistic/radtrad thinking. I also lurk on a few subs which aren't necessarily reflective of my own views (I've occasionally posted a comment on ExCatholic, for one example.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:29 AM
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Fair enough, haha! I'm no fundy or "radtrad" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:37 AM
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You can't judge people on looks. Yeah, I find it pretty ironic how dudes here will whine about how they think all chicks are entirely looks-focused, while in the same breath being overly looks-focused themselves. There are both conventionally attractive and conventionally unattractive people who suck, and vice-versa. Character is not dependent upon appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 12:01 AM
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You’re trying to make logistics to emotions/attraction when that quite literally can’t be done. Yep that's literally what TRP is, from what I've seen. They've struggled in dating and so they attempt to figure out its formula, but fail to realize there is no such cut-and-dry formula unless we're talking about shallow transactional relationships/hookups which aren't even worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:07 PM
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Granted most men definitely hope for one And that isn't a bad thing, unless the man is a nonvirgin specifically seeking a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:04 PM
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Lol so which one am I then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:00 PM
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So if a man has had any kind of sexual contact, he has zero right to turn down promiscuous women? I wouldn't exactly say that (if by promiscuous women you mean high-N women whereas the man in the scenario is low-n), but it certainly is laughable if he tries to demand a virgin gf/wife (and some definitely do that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:39 AM
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She's the main character in a very funny '90s cartoon titled Daria. I highly recommend watching it! And if you do, lemme know what you think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:26 AM
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Guess we'll find out when the spinoff (Jodie) comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:24 AM
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Yeah, I've seen what they think "female nature" is and it's wrong. What they describe are gold-diggers, and not all women are gold-diggers. They build a limited narrative based on their limited (and usually bitter) perceptions and claim AWALT. No, you implied that No, there are literally guys who hold those double standards. Not all guys, ofc, but quite a few. By promiscuity you're likely referring to extremely high-N counts but when I say promiscuity I don't limit it only to the highest-N outli…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:28 AM
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I actually have dated a virgin, and I don't consider virginity a negative thing at all in that regard. Using prostitutes (and being otherwise promiscuous), otoh... ew. I'm one of those no-sex-before-marriage people. So between those two choices it's no contest, all other things being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:00 AM
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What about those of us who don't fall into any of those categories? 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:30 AM
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TRP is against marriage and puts emphasis on being a "chad", no? There are guys who will sleep with as many women as they can but at the same time criticize those women for not being virgins or at least low-n. I didn't say it was contagious. We're all responsible for our own actions though, so if we're going to be against something like promiscuity then we should be consistent about it by not participating in what we're criticizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:37 AM
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I've seen some of that too, but I've also seen some who dumped guys for cheating on them. It's a mixed bag really, like most things involving individual humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:35 PM
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That's men with options aka men who can cheat if they want. But the men who choose not to exercise those options or even keep them around are the ones women actually want. That's not the same as wanting a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:07 PM
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Rofl TRP is all about "getting your dick wet" (hello, plating and other manipulative anti-marriage rhetoric?) And guys who sleep with women (or would if the opportunity arose) while criticizing those women as easy are hypocrites because they are easy themselves; if they want a woman with self-control then they should likewise practice self-control and stop chasing sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:34 PM
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No matter which gender, I base my opinions of a person on the individual because I don't see either men or women as a monolith. There are many great guys and many douchebags, many great gals and many harpies. I like that you asked this though; I'm curious to see what all the bitter sexists will say, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:03 AM
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I'm not absolving women of anything, which is why I said both men and women in general are equally responsible for the current problems in dating. So many bitter men here simply want to blame women for everything, and the "gatekeeper" argument is part of that (iT's aLL hEr FaULt BeCaUsE sHe SaiD yEs To My SeXuAL aDvAnCeS; sHe'S sO LoOsE bUt i'M a FiNe UpStAnDiNg NiCe GuY!) I agree that promiscuous women griping at non-promiscuous men for not wanting to date them because of sLuT-sHaMiNg is wrong,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:37 AM
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Lol as if a virgin can't learn and hone technique (and that improves the most when tailoring such to each other's unique bodies and preferences.) And given how many dudes gripe about starfishing and how many chicks gripe about jackhammering, it sounds like many of the promiscuous aren't great at sex themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:07 AM
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I don't think the majority of women "love to date men who cheat." I do think many have poor judgment in dating due to never having been taught how to discern and/or due to childhood trauma, though. Then there are the men who seem nice and upstanding until their masks fall off. It can be tricky out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:57 AM
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I don't disagree and I'm against that normalization as well. It's abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:53 AM
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But lemme guess: AWALT, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:28 AM
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I can respect that you're at least gracious instead of reacting in a knee-jerk way in the face of my righteous anger at your unfair double standard. 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:17 AM
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1: My husband After perusing your replies to others in this thread, I found that you disgust me with your double standard in this regard. That sh!t doesn't fly with self-respecting ladies such as I, and I sure as hell didn't marry no high-N hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:05 AM
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Yeah, sh!t like that (among other things) is exactly why I don't identify as a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:52 AM
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Based and spicyyy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:47 AM
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I can't speak for all women, but in my case I state my opinions honestly every time I post so there's not much left for me to say during Purge Week anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:45 AM
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Ok but when I posted my comment no one else had said anything yet, but I knew it was coming haha! Edit: Oh, actually that comment was posted right before mine; my bad! I just hadn't seen it at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:28 AM
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He does have great hair, ngl! 😆 Also, surprised no one has already said "Fking furries."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:45 AM
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I’m still convinced that this is just dom/sub role play with an added dose of exhibitionism That's what I think too, especially the exhibitionism part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:00 AM
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Based solidarity! ✊🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:30 AM
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Mind games isn't something you can really opt out of, as you'd end up with ridiculous FDS logic of "would you consent to sexual activity with me, m'lady?" or MGTOW for men. Eh, I'll agree to disagree there. When I was single I was careful to watch out for manipulation and other red flags and I kept certain boundaries in place to help prevent such, but that didn't make me a misandrist. And my careful efforts helped me avoid the pitfalls so many other women tend to sink into. (The same applies to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:24 AM
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That's a good psychological assessment of the situation I think, but when I said some women would in fact refuse to put up with such crap I was thinking more of intentional action based on knowing what to avoid. When one is consciously aware of what to watch out for in the first place, one can make much wiser decisions such as breaking up with a scumbag once a serious dealbreaker has been acknowledged (the same goes for men too ofc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:46 AM
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These are all good points. And this is why people shouldn't focus solely on one or the other cognitive style; it takes both to properly understand the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:30 AM
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People (both men and women) even as groups are more nuanced than that though. Sure, there are some generalities that can be made but they're not as broadly-sweeping as you imply. The problem with so many Redditors is they'll take one particular individual and/or small subset of individuals and apply their actions to an entire sex via strict black-and-white thinking and then claim they know all there is to know about people/relationships when they aren't even seeing the whole picture. And if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:18 PM
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Some do, some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:45 PM
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That's why I said self-respecting and savvy. One needs self-respect to know one's worth and not in a narcissistic sense, just in the sense that one will have certain principles established and won't settle for maltreatment, but one also needs to be savvy to be able to recognize red flags in the first place before anything gets too serious. It's not "just-world nonsense"; it happens in the real world and I see it in some single people I know. Promiscuous people often don't see other promiscuous p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:33 PM
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My bad. My dog got hold of my phone 🤣 Ok I gotta admit that one was funny! Here's an upvote for humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:57 PM
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Why are you spamming me with nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:36 PM
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You don't have to believe it, but it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:51 AM
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A woman being professional and driven doesn't really have anything to do with her approach to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:50 AM
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The bf's emphasis was on acting "cool" to get laid, not on avoiding social awkwardness for the sake of properly conducting oneself while still being genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:44 AM
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I think so and I've been saying for a while that the insane toxicity of current parenting culture is what has spurred many people to not only identify as childfree but to be actively repelled by children in general even when they might not otherwise have been to such an extent. Here's an apt article.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:28 AM
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I am an adult under 60 who has never watched porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:11 AM
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And I've noticed those guys tend to go after easier women, not the more discerning ones with real standards and ultra-strict vetting against f-bois (or if they do go for any such savvy women they'll either get shot down, or leave on their own because they don't want to bother living up to those women's higher standards since they care more about getting laid in general than they care about any actual woman or relationship.) As I said in another comment, like often attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:03 AM
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I'm not the only one suspecting it's a larp. You like it, even though it cannot be verified as a real incident, simply because it fits your own bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:46 AM
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I'm not running from the truth, because this isn't even true. Sure, some naive or troubled women might settle for a douchebag but NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:44 AM
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But I really wonder what types of women they're going after with those games. Such nonsense won't fly with savvy self-respecting ladies so that leaves loose women, some of whose promiscuity stems from unresolved trauma so these players are preying on their vulnerabilities. As for the ones whose promiscuity doesn't stem from unresolved trauma they're the female counterparts to the male players, toying with other people for selfish reasons, yet the players go after them and then claim AWALT when r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:12 AM
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LOL you were the one who asked me in the first place! And now you claim you don't care? Besides, I don't have to ask myself since your assumption was incorrect in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:22 AM
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Why would that be my power fantasy? I simply think it sucks for the gf in such a scenario that she'd tolerate subpar treatment from some undeserving f-boi even after he told her directly what a bad person he is. Although as others have pointed out, this all sounds too neatly put-together to be true anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:50 AM
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True; I could see that being the case since the whole scenario seemed too perfectly aligned to the ideology. And most RPers aren't gonna say the quiet part out loud unless they're posting in anonymous forums (and some won't even then.) Btw your flair amuses me every time I see it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:09 AM
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I don't find anything inherently wrong with flowers on a first date, although I can see how they can be a bit much if the dates aren't yet acquainted enough with each other to have become friendly at the very least. What I hate is the bf's emphasis on playing stupid games and having a f-boi mentality. Lol I'm sure he thinks sex on the first date is just fine but fLoWeRs ArE tOo MuCh. It's so absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:03 AM
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Ugh, her bf is the living stereotype of a RedPiller. When he told her "You're dating me and not him" she should have shot back "Y'know what? You're right; why am I even putting up with this crap?" and dumped her douchey bf on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:40 AM
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This sort of thinking, the thinking that unless there's constant novelty for the sake of novelty sex will inevitably become boring, commonly results from pornbrained desensitization and lack of real connection to one's partner. Sure, novelty can be good at times but porn is completely unnecessary for that and besides, the types of novelty porn offers are nothing desirable to aspire to: cucking, painal, other gross fetishes, etc. And healthy novelties such as variety of positions, sexy games and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:57 PM
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Wrong. I've never even watched porn but I know enough about its toxicity from other people's experiences with (both viewing and producing) it as well as from studies done of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:09 PM
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From what I've seen, many bitter people who are (understandably) frustrated with the current dating climate (which is honestly an ever-devolving dumpsterfire) and trying to cope and figure out solutions for themselves, with most of them doing so in unhealthy ways. Me though? I'm here for the interesting topics of discussion, to help where I can and generally offer a balanced perspective and a glimmer of hope (to show that NAWALT and NAMALT and that both men and women can do and expect better in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:46 PM
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My guess is that they (the ones who could afford to move) don't do that because deep down, many of them do want the happily-ever-after love. It's just that they're too jaded with a sour-grapes mentality and too self-centered to attract it, and they don't have the patience to wait for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:42 PM
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it’s guys figuring out how to get laid. So my original point (in the first comment I posted) has been proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:25 PM
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I mean there's a valid reason why promiscuity is off-putting even if one isn't personally against promiscuity; sex is supposed to accompany real love and commitment and isn't meant to be shared around with whoever, hence the involuntary visceral reaction. But I know we'll agree to disagree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:17 PM
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Then why does RP complain so much about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:11 PM
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The best thing to do would be not separating sex from love and commitment (and yes ofc attraction would be included in all of this), but way too many people prefer instant gratification instead and then they wonder why dating is so confusing and chaotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:07 PM
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Just when it suits you eh Did you pull a muscle making that reach? When I started committing, women's sexual history grossed me out. Perhaps try exploring why that is. Don't you think there could be a valid reason behind that, a deeper meaning to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:04 PM
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Well at least you're consistent; I'll give ya that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:53 PM
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I think women who are focused more on money than the man/relationship are being shallow. It's reasonable to expect a decent work ethic because work ethic is relevant to one's actual character (no self-respecting woman wants some lazy loser who sits around smoking pot all day when he's perfectly capable of holding down at least a basic job and/or putting in his fair share of effort in other ways such as childcare, etc.) whereas how much money one makes isn't; it is possible for a poor guy to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:52 PM
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I see I've struck a nerve, lol. And I don't have a dog in this fight on a personal level since I'm not single, but my suggestions could help those who are currently single and searching for the right person if they'd only apply them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:14 PM
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Nah, it's men making excuses for wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Either they're ok with premarital sex both ways or not; it can't reasonably be ok for one but not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:54 PM
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If women required marriage as a precondition for having sex, then that is what would happen. So men should take no responsibility in that; it's all on the women to uphold? It goes both ways; both should require marriage as a precondition for having sex. We can't blame others for our own actions. I waited for marriage and this double standard did not fly with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:47 PM
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If you want a non-promiscuous woman, you should be a non-promiscuous man. No double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:41 PM
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From what I've seen, the guys (RP and otherwise) who tout those ideas are simply looking for scientific-sounding (but not scientifically sound) excuses to screw around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:05 PM
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If you don't believe me because of your overly black-and-white thinking then whatevs, but it's still the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:18 AM
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^This! I'm married to a shy introvert but he doesn't have their attitude. I didn't go for "bad boys" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 12:35 AM
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We can make the world a little bit better by making the choice to be better though. We don't have to do what the rest of the world is doing if we don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:57 PM
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But it should, and it is doable (except for the babysitter part; that depends on how reliable one's relatives are and/or how much money one has to hire help.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:17 PM
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There should be breaks though, via parents shouldering the childrearing together so neither gets burnt-out (negotiations can vary but both parents should be actively involved somehow) and getting trusted babysitters when necessary and possible. Everyone needs a break; we are all human. And while a kid is undoubtedly an enormous responsibility, that's not the only responsibility or challenge in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:57 PM
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Nope. It's not real until you have a baby to care for 24/7. Lol wow. So someone facing a severe health crisis or wondering where one's next meal is coming from or dealing with a loved one's death or family drama or something else serious is nothing real, all because one has no kids and/or isn't married? That is some warped thinking right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:34 PM
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Ever heard of the honeymoon phase? I've been married long enough to be past the time they say the honeymoon phase is over (but the honeymoon phase doesn't have to end aside from the newness aspect, if the couple maintain their romantic bond over time. Holding the view that it automatically goes downhill from there is just an excuse to grow neglectful of each other and otherwise take each other for granted.) It's after that that things get real. Lol we've been through financial and (physical and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:18 PM
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which does not reflect the beliefs of most red pills individuals I dunno, RP men are anti-marriage (generally) and constantly talk about "plating" as many young chicks as they can for as long as they can. I wouldn't say the hypothetical doesn't reflect them on some level although yes it is false in the sense that NAMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:27 PM
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I was retaliating, but you're right. Neither of us was perfect here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:55 AM
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women think the average man lives like chad Lol one doesn't have to be a "chad" to be sexually active. Plenty of average men and women sleeping around to at least some extent. I don't want to ignore my biological imperative. So you'd rather be like an animal with no further meaning to intimacy than biOLoGy? If one wants a more meaningful life with a more meaningful relationship, one will have to be more discerning and selective via self-control. Modern women are not abstaining though That still …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 10:38 PM
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That wouldn't be in my best interest, nor would it be in the best interest of my children. Mention of literally everyone's interests except those of the wife, when that's what OP's question was about no less. Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:46 PM
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I just wanna say bravo; you are absolutely on-point correct and that's so refreshing to see in an environment like this! Also: Flair checking in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:55 AM
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Here're my (admittedly blunt) thoughts on your whole spiel: You are a despicable excuse of a human being for moving in on taken women. You don't have to be though; you could stop doing that and become a decent person for your present and future. But the choice is ultimately yours to make... My husband doesn't control or supervise me like I'm a child and I have absolute zero desire to cheat anyway, "opportunity" or not. Nor am I impressed by romantic/sexual validation from some rando; I get that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:54 PM
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most men cannot simply engage in hookup culture like its a decision lol. Most men can't get into a triple-digit n-count, sure. But that doesn't mean they haven't participated in hookup culture; there is plenty of non-commital activity going around among average people with medium to low n-counts. either doing mgtow or finding someone who doesn't partake Yes these are options, abstaining from dating altogether (preferably without any "pilled" ideologies though since from what I've seen they tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:35 PM
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If you have to tell people you're a good man, maybe you aren't as good as you think. If you truly hold this double standard, then you definitely aren't as good as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:32 PM
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Men and women are different. Not so different that they cannot be held to the same moral standard. That's nothing more than a flimsy excuse men make in an attempt to justify their own bad conduct so they won't have to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:41 PM
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Yes, because height was never a physical dealbreaker or even a real concern for me. (I use the past tense because I'm happily married now thus no longer seeking, and no my husband is not 6 ft.) I don't understand why you're implying there's a link between height and age gap though, unless you're somehow implying that women who want men within 5 years of their own ages and 9 inches taller than themselves have unreasonable standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:57 PM
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How does caring that my wife isn't a whore make me Trad? It doesn't necessarily make you Trad, but it does make you a hypocrite if you think it's ok for you but not for your wife to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:34 PM
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I don't blame anyone? If you're actively engaging in hookup culture while blaming hookup culture for your own decisions ("Well everybody's doing it; might as well enjoy the decline and do it too") then yes you are blaming others for something you yourself could opt out of. What they do is indeed their fault, but what you do is your fault. I don't really get what excuses and laziness has to do with anything...like getting dates? It's lazy to claim to hate the status quo while participating in and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:31 PM
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This is simply a case of twisting the Bible to fit your own narrative; don't misrepresent Christianity. I noticed you left out the additional part about man also coming from woman via pregnancy/childbirth. And if you really wanna go down that road, why are you doing porn and stuff when the Bible literally says "...whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:10 PM
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Noooo. Women were created for men. To serve men. Just lol @ equality. I thought you were being sarcastic until I read your username. Well there you are; I was wondering when our resident larper would show up, haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:01 PM
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It's ok to screw around with those women just don't LTR or marry them. That's just stooping to their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:07 AM
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Eve came from Adams rib they're not equal Lol that doesn't mean they aren't equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:53 AM
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Argue with God not me If you truly believe in (I'm assuming the Christian) God, you should know that both men and women were made for God. It is true that Adam was given Eve as his equal companion and wife, but that doesn't mean every human on Earth is called to marriage and it especially doesn't mean women's inherent purpose is to be servants to men, let alone men who aren't even their own husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:08 AM
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No way to know if the outlier is a true outlier until it's too late. Modernity always wins, and it only moves in one direction. What does this even mean? Yes there can be ways of knowing whether or not one is an outlier; otherwise all the RPs wouldn't be telling women who go for "bad boys" that they need to choose better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:57 AM
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It's all same shit now That's a defeatist attitude. Outliers can and do exist, and the more people (both men and women!) reject the current status quo the more society can be salvaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:35 AM
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I believe you're conflating trad cons with RPs. Perhaps, but RPs seem to care a lot about low-n if not virginity, all while aiming to "plate" as many chix as they can. That's hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:28 AM
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Hows that part of the problem if you don't recognize it as a problem? I do recognize hookup culture as a problem. And both men and women are to blame for partaking in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:26 AM
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So become a degenerate like the current status quo, blaming others for one's own bad decisions with no personal autonomous integrity at all? Nah, anyone can be better than that if he/she actually puts effort into it. If I'd gone by your logic, I would have been one of those CC riders RPers say AWALT about, but I wasn't because I held higher standards for myself than that. It wasn't easy, but I made no excuses for such laziness and I am all the happier for it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:24 AM
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Yeah sure martyr themselves for NOTHING 🤣 Because being a gentleman of quality and vetting for a lady of quality are not options. /s 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:08 AM
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So basically RPers are going with the "If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em" approach, then. Still no excuse to be just another part of the problem by contributing to hookup culture and screwing around with the very types of women you don't even want to be with (NAWALT.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:50 AM
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This only goes to show that they're hypocrites, lol. They want all the "casual" sex for themselves, but expect women to remain pure except when being plated by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:29 AM
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I don't understand the point of a ho phase Yeah, I don't really get it either. I mean, I get how people can fall into such a phase circumstantially (impatience and lack of conviction to wait for someone worthwhile, lack of guidance in what to avoid, past trauma making them feel worthless and self-destructive, etc.) but I don't get how it can be so glorified in society at large when it does no one any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:36 AM
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I... honestly don't know because I can't relate to that experience. I never had a ho phase and I never liked "bad boys" (since I was taught how to spot red flags I was relatively wise to their abuse tactics from the get-go); I always wanted a good one to whom I was also physically attracted and I found him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:45 AM
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Not a man, but I'd like to add to your apt observation of that specific subset of men: They also tend to be the ones who complain about women not genuinely loving them and only seeking them for resources. Well when they're holding such an extreme view (which isn't the same as merely considering the working husband/homemaker wife dynamic as being the best option for them both as individuals and as a couple and thus loosely planning on that with room for flexibility if it turns out not to suit the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:20 PM
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Aww, thank you for both the compliment and the upvote! Very refreshing to see on a platform such as Reddit, hehe. Here's an upvote for you as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 01:07 PM
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But you do sound like a busy body church lady. Because I disagree with you and am pointing out the negatives of something you like? Lol whatevs dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:53 PM
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Sure Believe whatever you want. I'll just carry on my happy way and continue to warn singles about pornsick people like yourself so they'll have a better chance of a relationship/marriage like mine if that's what they're aiming for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:49 PM
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GTFOH! You sound like an ignorant boomer grandma. Now excuse me, I am going to beat off Riley Reid in grandma cosplay. Oooh, guess I struck a nerve for you to lash out so immaturely. I see you have no valid rebuttal to my argument, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:34 PM
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A busy body is happily married Having an opinion doesn't make me a busybody. The whole point of this sub is debate and discussion (y'know, the sharing of ideas and opinions), and for some (anyone who asks for advice) problem-solving. And Idgaf whether or not you believe me; the truth is still the truth whether you do or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 06:32 PM
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It's not about me personally; I'm happily married to a quality gentleman who doesn't use porn and who sees the harms in it as I do. It just sucks to see so many other people go through those problems when things could be so much better for them. I encounter so many other anti-porn folks (roughly half of whom were once pro-porn, even) pointing out how and why porn is bad while their own SOs along with other people try to justify it and gaslight them into believing they are the ones in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 03:42 PM
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It's another dancing monkey attempt by women, as if we need to justify ourselves to you. Lol way to blame women for your own issues. Typical. It was a valid question by the OP of that thread, since many women (some men too, for that matter) are sick of dealing with porn addiction harming their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 02:01 PM
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Since Internet porn became widely and easily available many boys and even some girls have grown up watching it, which undeniably warps their brains because it shapes their malleable perceptions of sex all wrong before they even start dating. Playboy magazine back in the day was bad enough, but poorly-parented (and even some well-parented, because toxic outside influences exist too and parents cannot hover 24/7 without warping their children in other ways) kids these days are growing up viewing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:27 PM
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I'd say the main catalysts are bitterness and ever-increasing selfishness on both sides. Such people become jaded through their own experiences and/or what they observe around them without seeing the bigger picture, plus they want to receive but not give in their one-sided perceptions of relationships that lack the self-awareness necessary for said relationships to thrive, thus creating more bitter selfish people until it's a whole vicious cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:37 PM
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You're welcome. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:50 AM
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I don't particularly ascribe to any Reddit dating ideology, but I do have suggestions. To start with, "well I should just fk a lot of girls and give up dating" isn't the way to go. Yes it can be frustrating, but in order to find a good partner you need to be a good partner and being a player won't accomplish that. Naturally you should be on the lookout for untrustworthy behaviors and other red flags because chances are you will meet a variety of girls both good and bad and you will want to avoid…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 02:29 AM
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Well I was a virgin when I got married. However, one doesn't necessarily have to be a virgin and definitely doesn't have to be perfect (the latter is humanly impossible) to achieve a healthy happy relationship dynamic. A non-virgin who has since gained understanding of what she was doing wrong and genuinely (as in not taking the AF/BB approach) ditched promiscuity and worked on herself to become a better person and an ex-porn-user who has since gained understanding of what he was doing wrong and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:32 PM
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OP is addressing a specific issue though, which is men watching porn and defending their porn use to the detriment of their relationships. If one were to reply by complaining about AF/BB for example, it would be off-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:08 PM
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(inb4 the dudes here brigade me with BuT wHaT aBoUt WoMeN's ToXiC hAbiTs?, Whining Nope, that was simply me foreseeing the butthurt off-topic replies coming and nipping them in the bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:17 PM
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Women make excuses, men make excuses, people in the end do what they want and justify it however they can This is true in cases of people who don't care enough to take an honest look at themselves and strive to improve themselves. Oh and I'm not whining; I'm simply telling it like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:46 AM
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I didn't mean to come across as judgmental, snarky, and condescending. My intent actually was to advise and everything I said was sincere. I guess my tone came across the wrong way though (I can sound pretty blunt sometimes without meaning to, so I apologize for that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 02:11 PM
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I'm a woman but there are some important issues that need to be addressed here that I don't really see anyone else taking on, so here goes: You mentioned wanting to build a connection and how strongly sex emotionally affects you, yet you're doing it on the 2nd date with someone who, in all honesty, you can't really know that well in such a brief time frame. You said yourself that you don't even know if he's on the rebound or what he's looking for! You have no idea where you truly stand with him,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:24 AM
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Why would I advertise porn to women who are against it? You're not exactly. You're advertising it to anyone who sees it who might be interested. I could just post samples to my pornhub And undoubtedly you do, I presume. But you also market here in the form of comments. You think I haven't seen that before? I have literally seen women advertising their OnlyFans on Facebook in comment threads. They're good tutorials. Only for those who want to be piss-poor excuses for human beings (case in point: …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 11:37 AM
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If I wanted to promote my porn then I would post it on a porn sub. I don't have time to do it because I waste too much time arguing here. Well you do seem to be advertising it at times, including during debates. I know your pick-me arguments will attract that type of audience when they happen upon your comments while they're in-between porn-watching sessions. I refer people to my youtube when they accuse me of being a troll. Yes but you also do that when the troll accusations don't apply. Case i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 10:46 AM
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Thank you! ^_^)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:38 PM
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/thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:32 AM
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I married for love, and so did my husband. To fully and officially commit to each other all throughout life shows complete love and trust as opposed to keeping one foot out the door. I didn't have to pressure him into it either; he wanted to marry me every bit as much as I wanted to marry him. If someone has to be pressured into marriage, that person is gonna make a sh!t spouse... and the one doing the pressuring isn't much better by tolerating that lack of commitment and being ok with nagging s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:30 AM
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I dunno, this sub generalizes men and women too much (hence my flair, lol.) So many people in here seem to think that there's a highly-specific formula to relationships and they'll deny anything that deviates from that (I'm not claiming that's you btw, but many others on here.) It's such an overly simplistic view of relationships, imho. Such totalizing thinking artificially omits all human individuality. As for gimpgirl555, I've been noticing her comments on this sub for a while and I've reached…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:42 AM
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He has gotten compliments on his appearance from random strangers while we've been out and about, so apparently he is objectively attractive but he is not what is associated with being a "chad" on Reddit: douchebaggy, high-N player or former player, shredded with muscles. But here's the thing: Even objectively attractive people aren't attractive to everyone. When I was single I met other guys who would be considered objectively attractive "chads" or whatever, to whom I honestly wasn't attracted …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:49 AM
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Ikr? The above scenario is limited to gold-diggers which obviously isn't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:45 AM
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Meanwhile here's how that conversation should have gone: "My man beats me." "Oh no honey that's horrible and you need to leave! This is abuse!" "My man beats me because it gives him a boner." "Oh no honey that's even worse; he is literally turned on by your pain! That's horrible and you need to leave! This is abuse!"
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/09/21 09:17 AM
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Nope. Most women don’t find most men physically attractive. That's too big of a generalization to assume. There are plenty of women (myself included) who are genuinely passionately attracted to their SOs. They do it to lock it down. Once they're safe the sex stops. Wrong again. There are very likely some who do that, but I and numerous others didn't/don't. I in fact did the opposite: abstained completely until marriage and now... well for the sake of polite decorum I'll just word it this way: I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:15 AM
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Ohh so as long as it "only" affects the partner (y'know, the one who suffers the most directly because of the literal vow that was broken) then it doesn't matter the damage? Btw your premise isn't even true; there literally exist people who grew up with cheating parents whose perceptions of marriage, faith in loving relationships, and trust in the opposite sex were ruined by that no matter whether their parents stayed together or not. It is often what creates misandrists and misogynists. And if …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:17 AM
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Commitment is supposed to actually mean something, so a guy who cheats on and/or divorces his wife because she doesn't look the same as before is a POS. He can (respectfully!) express his concerns to her and they can work it out, but he has no valid cause to abandon his marriage whether that's via philandering or divorce. What if a guy's wife gets in an accident and becomes disfigured in a way that plastic surgery isn't advanced enough to restore her previous appearance? Do you think he's justif…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:26 PM
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And cheating doesn't do emotional damage that affects the remainder of the relationship and household? People suffer infidelity-induced trauma and get their hearts broken over it. In your scenario the guy utterly betrayed the one he supposedly was so happy with out of sheer selfishness. He took something that was supposed to be solely between him and his beloved (sexual intimacy) and wasted it on some rando. He displayed a complete lack of love and gave his SO well-founded trust issues because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:06 PM
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their body becoming completely different over time while yours doesn’t change as drastically is a potential problem for their ongoing attraction to you. Still no excuse to cheat. Cheating is wrong no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:56 PM
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I'm not normally one to make generalized statements, but this issue is an exception to that. Even leaving is better than cheating because at least that's more honest albeit still a crappy thing to do to the person one took literal vows to. Cheating is cheating and is bad in and of itself. If a couple took wedding vows then they vowed fidelity to each other, which includes not sleeping with anyone but each other. Not reasons, excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:33 PM
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It seemed like you were trying to invent an excuse for him cheating, as in "Aha! It's because she wasn't putting out!" And I absolutely hold women accountable the same way! Cheating is cheating is cheating, no matter who does it and no matter for what "reason." And yes, I post about it online but I don't see as many female Redditors making excuses for it as male Redditors do, so I don't get as many opportunities to vent about that side. But yes, I hold them to the exact same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 06:03 PM
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I have heard that, and I would say it's probably true (my husband and I are each other's first love though; we'd both dated others but we've never been in love with anyone else so I wouldn't know how to compare two different loves experience-wise.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:57 PM
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Her cheating husband is no more objectively desirable than she is except to shallow gold-digging hoes. Also, you can't project your own preferences onto everyone; just because you'd prefer a slimmer figure and colored hair doesn't mean every man does; maybe I got a rare gem but my husband legit told me he'd prefer I not color my hair when it goes gray; he truly thinks I'm naturally beautiful as is no matter whether I'm dolled up or not (I do doll up sometimes because occasionally I like to) and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:53 PM
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The fact that you feel your current relationship will never live up to the past one in that aspect no matter what is contradictory. But that's none of my business, so I won't argue with you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:16 PM
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What are your thoughts on the female partner not having sex enough and that being a factor in the male partner exercising one of his available options or cheating in your terms? Obviously that is a serious problem (I'm assuming you mean wives who use sex as a weapon and frequently deny their husbands without valid reason) which absolutely should be worked out but still no excuse to cheat. Two wrongs do not make a right. If a guy views his own wife as just "one of his available options" and is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:03 PM
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Thank you! Right, I forgot about Heidi Klum. And she's far from the only one; celebrity relationships/marriages are infuriatingly rife with infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:16 PM
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I know, lol I remember when that came out. I just thought you were being snarky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:32 PM
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I don't know her but I can pretty confidently say she was way too good for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:18 PM
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I saw her photo, and? Looks are no excuse at all to be a POS who'll simp for some likewise POS homewrecker. If a man marries a woman with the mentality that she (and he!) won't age if they live long enough then he is not mature enough for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:15 PM
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Couples should make reasonable efforts to remain attractive to each other, but! There is absolutely no excuse for cheating whatsoever, full stop. That is the fault of the cheater and no one else. No point in getting married if one thinks there's a loophole to break one's vows. And again, objectively beautiful people such as Shania have gotten cheated on too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:12 PM
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If she wanted to keep him from straying one thing she should have done is focus on her appearance far more. Wow, way to blame the victim here. Shania Twain got cheated on too, so I guess that means she's ugly! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:32 PM
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Because people are ridiculous sometimes. Yes, willing to film some acts but not others. And there wouldn't be many if any girls to "hire" if the "directors" cared about explicitly stressing consent because few to no women would want to perform many of the nasty acts that have become normalized in porn. So the directors gradually (and oftentimes not so gradually) build them up to it. She wasn't the only one, though. This is a regular thing that happens in the "biz." It's not a business; it's obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:47 AM
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don't forget to be tollerant to others I don't have to agree that everything everyone does is ok. I respect that it's their own choice to make, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:16 AM
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Again, yes that sub definitely has its issues and I'm not discounting such at all, but they also call out a whole lotta BS and that appears to be the real reason they get so much flack. I don't hear those same dudes harping on other toxic subs the way they do the FDS sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:14 AM
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There have been literal rape videos uploaded to porn sites and the victims fought tooth and nail to have them taken down (one in particular couldn't even get that done by the trashy porn "company" until she convincingly posed as a lawyer threatening to sue their arses.) Also, even some of the girls who were willing to film porn in the beginning were coerced into doing more extreme stuff or not get paid. Some would be in the middle of an act and want to stop but the guys would keep going anyway a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:11 AM
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I'm referring to viewers not being able to tell the difference. Pornhub alone is getting into trouble over literally this. Lol yeah that's what has popularized things like painal, choking, scat, deepthroating until one literally vomits, etc. How romantic./s I don't consider porn fun and have zero interest in either shooting any or watching any.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:07 AM
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It’s all luxury entertainment. Porn isn't even entertainment. It's just trash. But I know several here (yourself included) will agree to disagree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:02 AM
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There are some truth bombs there that many women would benefit from reading. But yeah, somehow porn must NEVER be criticised or else a bunch of men will show up to defend it till their last breath. I honestly think that's why so many dudes here (not all dudes obviously, but you know the specific types I'm talking about) rant about FDS; they don't like FDS calling out their nonsense and exposing their "precious" porn for what it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:14 AM
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Yeah they can do what they want but that doesn't mean it's the optimal choice (btw a lot of porn is not consensual and there's really no way to tell the difference.) And couples can healthily explore their sexuality with - get this, it's groundbreaking lol - each other. But like Mutteriman said, you're just a bad troll so I don't even know why I'm bothering to respond anymore. If by some rare chance you aren't a troll, I do sincerely hope for your own sake that you'll someday realize your worth …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:12 AM
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Wholeheartedly agreed! While there are clearly some misandry issues which I do not condone within FDS, at least FDS as a whole contains quite a few useful nuggets of wisdom and brings awareness to certain toxicities in relationships and society. Porn, otoh, well... it contributes literally nothing good to the world and in fact brings harm. r/FightTheNewDrug
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:51 AM
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Actually, it doesn’t matter what their sex is. They’re insane either way Yep and my theory is that person is some type of fetish larper. Lol I even replied one time "This is some type of kink for you, isn't it?" and I never got an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 08:12 AM
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those times have no bearing on any future relationships nothing will top some of the reunion kisses and sex I had with my first gf These statements are contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:01 AM
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I remember reading that post and feeling so awful for the poor guy; he did not deserve that (presuming it's real.) I found an update he posted and I'm so proud of him for breaking up with her because their relationship was doomed from the start; she'd been pining for her ex ever since before she and OP had even gotten together and she'd never really gotten over the ex. That, along with her humiliating boundary-breaking gossip about their sex life (and while keeping OP, the only one it should hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:24 AM
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Actually all the girls I knew who were actively into "bad boys" did not have the best home lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:17 PM
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Good that your mom helps out. As for the rest... smfh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:59 AM
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So... you rely on others (welfare, family, etc.) for living expenses and/or derive an income from OnlyFans, etc.? And what reasoning does he spout in refusing to work whilst being able to? Not trying to pry, just genuinely curious because as odd as I am even I'm puzzled by this situation with so many... strange... factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:37 AM
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Lol yeah, she's... a character in this sub for sure. I have suspected for awhile that she's larping.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:55 AM
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refuses to work. In a reply to me on another thread in this sub a while back, you said he enabled you to be a SAHM. How did that happen if he won't work? Not even gonna address the rest; I figure you already know based on my past replies to you and my other comments in this sub where I stand on all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:51 AM
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I was worth a reply apparently, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:55 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 03:00 AM
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Nope. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:40 AM
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Short answer: Both. Long answer: I'm against sex outside of marriage and I view sex as something sacred that is supposed to include love and commitment together, and that's what I recommend for others as well but it's up to them to decide what they'll do. Dating and marriage are such dumpsterfires nowadays because of hookup culture, yet so many just don't seem to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:04 AM
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It's common sense. Look at all the problems it causes when people compartmentalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 12:39 AM
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And OP's post illustrates why they should be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:58 PM
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Agreed. A scenario more similar to the latter would be orbiters hitting on or otherwise trying to be inappropriate with one's SO and the SO isn't shutting it down entirely as in not only turning down their initial offers but also not taking advantage of the attention for validation or whatever else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:43 AM
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Your verdict is absolutely correct. No reasonable woman would promote this tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:31 AM
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IKR?! ^_^)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:05 PM
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There can be equivalent exchange with various types of arrangements because people are individuals and what works for one couple might not work for another. But if one goes into marriage mathematically measuring every contribution, that's an unhealthy transactional mindset that lacks love and reeks of selfishness. Instead the focus should be on both putting forth their full effort to make a happy home (which ofc starts with making each other happy without constantly thinking of only themselves) …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:32 PM
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Many of them got duped by f-bois yeah, but whether or not they're attractive isn't necessarily relevant to that. Attractive women get mistreated too because f-bois care more about quantity than quality. Some of those women also grew up in dysfunctional homes so they never had a good relationship example to emulate. Some have even been victims of rape. Many regret stupid decisions they made in the past such as being pick-mes for guys who weren't worth the effort and didn't reciprocate (basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:36 AM
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Responsibility can be equal no matter the setup of who (whether one or both) works outside the home; different arrangements are optimal for different couples and they should negotiate together whatever's best for their household while keeping their own and each other's individual capacities and needs in mind. Are you really arguing that just because one might be a stay-at-home parent one deserves to get cheated on (sexually, financially, and/or any other way?) If you are, why is a whore entitled…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:47 AM
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Many of those women have suffered trauma inflicted by men and that sub is a place for them to vent among each other; it's quite reactive. Granted, not everything they say there is good or healthy but I understand where some of them are coming from. I'm not an FDSer myself but I lurk there occasionally because some of their ideas (anti-porn/trafficking, anti-F boi, anti-pickme-for-f bois, etc.) are right and I see few other sources calling out those ills so boldly and explaining them so thoroughl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:12 AM
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Couples are supposed to take care of each other to the best of their capacities and negotiate together how they will accomplish that. But arranging who works and who stays at home (or whether both spouses will do both) has nothing to do with my point about not throwing the couple's resources away on some thot. And obviously sexual and other fidelity goes both ways; I never said it shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:31 AM
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If we polled women, they would much prefer financial fidelity than sexual fidelity. Imagine this scenario. You are married to a man. He is going on lavish trips, buying cars, and paying rent for his affair partner. He is cheating, but not sexually. Women would much rather forgive sexual transgressions than their man taking potential resources from their household. Not I; I'd be righteously furious over either of those actions. Fidelity means fidelity, and that means in all aspects. And if some d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 12:14 AM
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It's not correct, period. Anyone in a healthy, loving, respectful relationship knows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 11:13 PM
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Yeah, those ideas are two sides of the same coin. Both wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 10:33 PM
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Key phrase there is "sugar babies." They're not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:33 PM
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Nah bro, based.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:03 AM
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I'm happily monogamously married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:49 AM
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x'D I'm also happily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:45 AM
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Lol! That's funny. (I'm a woman.) No, my flair is actually indicative of my view that the way so many men and women generalize each other is inaccurate and often stems from bitterness. Not all men are like that. Not all women are like that either. Misogyny is bad. So is misandry. The sexes shouldn't be enemies. We're all individual people and should act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:35 AM
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Good luck with that mentality tho. The same to you. And yeah, I can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:40 AM
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Sounds like a Madonna/Whore complex to me. Romantic attraction and sexual attraction can and should go hand-in-hand with the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:09 AM
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Unconditional love exists, and it can be mutual. Mutual unconditional love is the ideal (but not an impossible one!) for a relationship. The man in the scenario is not loving; he's reactive. Cheating just because someone else did it is only stooping to their level; there is no excuse for that. Rofl I'm not the one being petty and immature here by pointing out that a healthy relationship involves effort and unconditional love from both sides, and I'm not denying my own role in doing such. I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:09 AM
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I am being realistic. Unconditional love exists, but many people are too selfish and lazy to practice it (but they don't have to be.) One doesn't have to be perfect to express agape; one simply has to, y'know, genuinely care about another person and actively put the other person before oneself at times. The guy in the scenario is really only ever thinking of himself, because he's putting himself first at all times in order to decide how well or poorly to treat his woman. "He will not treat you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:28 PM
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No, I mean my point. You don't want to be in a relationship with any of those women because they are... doing exactly what you yourself do. And consequences go both ways no matter whether it's a man or a woman making the bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:25 PM
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If he were really madly in love with me then there would be an unconditional component included in that (in his case the agape portion is entirely missing.) If he were really faithful then there wouldn't be the unspoken but ever-present threat of him leaving on a whim or at the very least treating me worse if I'm not perfect at all times (btw no one is perfect at all times so that's an impossible expectation on his part.) A guy like that doesn't want a wife; he wants a Stepford plaything. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:23 PM
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You're welcome. It sounds to me like you may have gone from one extreme to the other, which isn't a good thing. Before, you were being too open with women giving them bank cards without commitment (you needed to set boundaries and not give them wife privileges.) And now, you're closed off entirely in some aspects (but your wife is the one who deserves all of your best. And ofc that goes both ways and it's not limited to money.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:58 PM
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I found the woman I was looking for Oh, congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:40 PM
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Yes the attitude in the scenario generally stems from bitterness, but the problem is that bitterness is not good for a relationship because it turns one into the very thing one despises and it can even be a self-fulfilling prophecy. My advice to you personally would be to not disclose your high salary in the beginning stage of dating; this will help you weed out gold-diggers who only see you as a wallet and you'll be likelier to find a quality lady who loves you for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:55 PM
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Haha, you are on fire! Seriously excellent points in every single one of your replies to KirthWGersen. You're killin' it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:37 PM
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You have a valid point there, but at the same time couples usually want to grow old together and not be widowed early so in this case it is a valid consideration. There's even an episode of Fresh Off The Boat that addresses this concern, when Marvin was checking out retirement homes and Honey was imagining the absurdity of potentially living with him in one at 30-something years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:29 PM
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I wasn't basing my negative opinion of the character in the scenario on my own experience (I'm in a mutually-loving marriage), but on what I have always believed a healthy romantic relationship entails. No matter whether it's the man or the woman, if a person has an attitude like the character in that scenario then said person is neither a good romantic partner nor a good person in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:16 PM
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women absolutely do not feel that they have to put forth any effort into a relationship. No, that's what the hypothetical man in the scenario is doing. He wants the woman to put in all the effort and he bases his own effort on that. That's where my problem is. Love is putting in effort without necessarily expecting anything in return, and that goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:27 PM
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This scenario would absolutely be a dealbreaker, because there's no natural love on his end and a relationship lacking in mutually-natural love won't be worthwhile. It also sounds like he'd be one of those "only as faithful as his options" types so I'd ultimately be expendable to him and with a transactional mindset he wouldn't really be kind; he'd just be putting on an act of kindness as long as he feels like he's getting what he thinks he is entitled to without any unprompted effort on his par…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:20 PM
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I don't know if you've seen my comments elsewhere in this thread, but I've already addressed the exceptions (when age-gapped couples just so happen to connect but are not actively hunting a big age-gapped relationship.) They are not who I'm talking about here. Additionally I never said this is limited to the older man/younger woman dynamic; I agree that younger men aren't all good either but no demographic is all good. The thing is though, there's a specific pattern in the older man/younger woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:52 PM
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Sometimes they don't know the creep's intent right away, though. Some creeps are sneakier than others. And an age difference of a decade is in most cases not healthy even if it is legal; usually it's someone deliberately seeking such a big age gap because one has warped opinions of people one's own age. Usually that type of person sees a trophy to collect and not a partner. The healthy exception to that is not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:18 PM
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Ok, but my point is that you are not living any better than they are by doing exactly what you disapprove of in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:11 PM
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But you don't want a chick who was and/or is promiscuous ("riding the CC") yet you're blatantly promiscuous. That does make you a hypocrite. Don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:24 AM
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Sure some (usually those with daddy issues and/or other issues) are bent on learning the hard way and there is the occasional rare exception of an age-gapped couple who simply fell in love without actively seeking the age gap who have an actual healthy relationship, but plenty of girls are not interested in significantly older guys and in fact find them creepy and gross, and some have their mothers and/or other older women to mentor them about the red flags that ensue when an old perv hits on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:39 AM
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Lol it's not about doing "whatever older women tell them to"; it's about learning from others' experience (which one is never too old for, fyi.) Older men who specifically seek a widely age-gapped relationship tend to be manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 03:07 AM
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"How is that stopping you from dating younger women?" My guess is that older women are warning younger women about how sleazy those guys are, and thus more younger women are wising up to detect and avoid the red flags commonly associated with wide age-gapped relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:10 AM
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It is highly debatable that no one gets hurt. Poly lifestyles have brought to utter destruction many a marriage and relationship. When people view their partners as interchangeable in the bedroom, they tend to ultimately view even their "primary" relationships as expendable when someone else enticing enough comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:59 PM
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People are free to do what they want, but that doesn't necessarily mean what they're doing is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:39 PM
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Imho, it counts in dating too. But then, I see dating as something that should help one find the right person to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:20 PM
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Fidelity is always necessary. In fact, it is the most necessary aspect (alongside love) of marriage imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 08:18 PM
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Still unattractive because nearly all of them have dealbreaking baggage (hung up on exes, etc.) and they tend to have a cavalier attitude about relationships. The ones who don't are the exception from what I've witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 07:48 PM
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Child free women over 35 are going to be way more picky. they probably aren’t going to be so strict about traditional roles and fidelity. Picky but not about fidelity, what? No. Just like non-childfree women, childfree ones can vary in their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:06 PM
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because they don’t think they can keep them. Well yeah, infidelity is unattractive. But there are several additional reasons as well: potential babymommas, STDs, etc. We certainly don't find any of that more desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:40 PM
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So you corrupted him instead of the other way around (not that bluepill is necessarily right either; I don't know as much about that one but it clearly isn't as bad as red and black pills because at least it's not misogynistic and morals aren't entirely disregarded from what I've seen)... talk about an unexpected twist from a self-proclaimed pick-me. This is a kink for you, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:27 PM
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I prefer a quality gentleman who thinks for himself. My husband DGAF about any "pills" and is not a misogynist like the red and black pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:22 PM
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So that makes you a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 03:36 PM
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Wow. Tbh though I don't think it's a good argument to discourage loving marriages based on what the kids will look like (people have done that in the past for racist reasons.) I get what you're going for in debunking the pro-age-gap arguments about breeding, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:27 PM
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i think it all depends on the age of the people in the relationship. That, but also motive(s.) It's two totally different things when an age-gapped couple simply happen to fall in love despite not deliberately seeking an age gap vs. those who strategically reject perfectly eligible and compatible people their own age to entirely weed them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:01 PM
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I have no interest in older women who were too busy riding the CC Yet you're doing the male equivalent of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:14 PM
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The only thing stopping me from upvoting this is #2 (you could make an argument for sperm quality declining with age though.) Your assessment is right on the nose!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:49 PM
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My partner is 11 years younger. And God knows I didn’t seek that out but we are so similar and had so much in common. That's the difference; you weren't strategically rejecting everyone your own age and purposefully going for significantly younger; you just so happened to fall in love with someone significantly younger. I don't think you're the type OP is referring to in this post. I for one definitely don't view people like you the same way I view the older shallow creeps who seek a trophy to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:43 PM
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The OP advocates for banning any relationship with a 5+ year age gap. I don't know about banning; what I got from what OP said is that OP thinks such relationships should be socially shamed but not necessarily banned. As for my view, if an age-gapped (but legal ofc!) couple just so happen to fall in love then so be it. But more often than not, it's some creep purposefully going for someone younger, who he'll cheat on/trade in/etc. once she ages out of his preference. No matter whether or not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:47 AM
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You and u/spinsterchachkies, now kiss (if you're both single that is, lol!)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:50 AM
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\silently smirking at all these borderline jailbait-chasing dudes getting all triggered and swarming to the defense in response to this post\**
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 07:25 PM
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As a man, break down and cry in front of your wife / girlfriend. Share your feelings with your wife / girlfriend. They're just totally disinterested. So when men show feelings women don't like it, because they don't expect or understand it. This isn't my experience at all; I most definitely don't view my husband as less of a man for opening up to me, his own wife, in a vulnerable way. There's a whole world of difference between that and being a wussy soyboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:43 PM
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Seems like a case of good relationship > being single > bad relationship. That's my view too. I'm much happier married than I was when single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:45 PM
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it is some kinda online or coworker situation Online you can easily ignore randos attempting to hit you up; I always do. Don't even reply; just delete 'em without a word. My husband told me that replying at all makes those types think they can wear you down, so don't even acknowledge their existence. The coworkers can be dealt with via reporting them for sexual harassment if verbal denial doesn't work by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:21 PM
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There are more of them than you're aware of. I don't know any who like balding, as in going bald but struggling to fight it with bad combovers, but bald can work for those who are into it. And you don't have to have the majority of women be into you, just one: Mrs. Right. And I know there are definitely more than one who would go for bald men, so you'll still have some options to choose from. Edited to add: It definitely helps if you work out to build some muscle; from what I've seen many women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:33 PM
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Same here, on both counts! So you see OP, it really depends on the woman. While there are those of us who have a particular thing for long hair, there are others who actually prefer bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:48 AM
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Ok, but it still involves throwing at least some virtues out the window, such as fidelity. Ohh right, the ol' "Society has always done it this way so that makes it right" argument. Bollocks. There are a lot of things people don't necessarily "have to do"; that doesn't mean they shouldn't still do them out of love. And no, it wouldn't be any less degenerate if he'd not married you but the thing is that it's degenerate regardless because he throws you a bone here and there and calls it good, yet h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:12 PM
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Yet he wouldn't be "serious" enough to do the same for her, hmmm... Also, no one should expect anyone to throw morals out the window; that shows a lack of humanity. I suppose you think Jasmine Richardson and Jeremy Steinke's relationship would be something to aspire to. Gentlemen don't bang other women even in 2021. Philanderers simply like to justify themselves any way they can conjure up, but they absolutely can control themselves. Ok, but none of that is worth being with a selfish degenerate.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:19 PM
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Lol well is any other woman gonna murder his boss, help him hide the body and take the legal fall for it if he wants her to? So is having no morals (him, and her by association) or standards (her) at all high-value? No, "as vanilla as it gets" would be having sex with only his wife whom he is in love with and fully committed to, and thus he treats her well by not having a wandering eye. There are quite a few guys who will do and have all the things you listed and on top of that they'll actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:25 PM
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What's wrong with trying to be a high value woman? Scoping out new F-buddies for the guy who supposedly cares about you (ha!) is not high-value; that's just being a degraded doormat for an undeserving degenerate. I say with all sincerity: you can do so much better than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:16 AM
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Because it goes against everything I stand for: that marriage is a lifelong (barring certain exceptions of infidelity and/or other types of abuse, ofc) exclusive sexual and romantic committed union that actually means something for the good of both individuals and society. Polygamy wouldn't lead to a better life for me because I don't see true romantic and sexual love as sharing someone (and yes, that still applies no matter how much money the selfish douchebag has; money by itself does not impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:42 AM
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It isn't that they literally don't care about getting used and tossed aside, it's that they don't want to make the necessary sacrifice (abstinence) that's required in order to not have that happen anymore. So they keep doing what they're doing and attracting noncommittal douchebags instead of quality gentlemen, thinking eventually it'll work I guess... and you know what they say the definition of insanity is: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 10:14 PM
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I've never been into "bad boys" except in the superficial aesthetic sense (the long-haired rocker look that normie society tends to associate specifically with the bad boy stereotype.) So my husband looks like a bad boy stereotype but his personality is the total opposite (and I find that attractive; I can't stand douchebags.) I know other women who do seem to actively go for actual "bad boys" (who, btw, do not always look like society would expect them to) and those women all have daddy issues …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 09:07 AM
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I see. Finasteride still seems too risky to be worth it as a first choice, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:25 PM
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Finasteride can inflict harmful side effects such as ED (which can be permanent even after going off the medication!), so I wouldn't want my husband to take that and I wouldn't recommend it for other guys either. The next options I could accept. A hair transplant is a great option; one of my in-law relatives got one and it's a major improvement compared to before. There're also alternative combover styles (think Pickles from Metalocalypse) that I could see my husband potentially rocking if he ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:39 PM
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Good points. Thank you! ^_^) And I agree; I'd say a maximum of 5 years difference either way is normal and beyond that are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:30 PM
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Why thank you, but here's something to remember: Women like me are not into men who hold double standards such as the Madonna-Whore dichotomy, and unless a man is not sexually simping for thots he does not truly respect even the women whom he theoretically places on pedestals. Either he's all-in, or he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:13 PM
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"...which gives you an idea of how far things have fallen." If you think that is what's fallen instead of the clusterfvck of an idea that adultery is a good thing in the first place, that tells me all I need to know. Fyi, not all men are weak and selfish enough to believe they should have one chick for love and another chick for sex; real gentlemen realize love and sex are supposed to go together and they have no issues being passionate about their wives and ignoring thots. The Madonna-Whore com…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:41 AM
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"if you invested in me then get your money's worth of sex. If you get your sex somewhere else then you're a sucker giving women a free ride". For the first time, I actually halfway agree with you on something. Simping for thots (especially when already committed to another woman) is as weak, desperate and dare I say "beta" as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:21 AM
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"In reality, just being older doesn't make one a predator. Being predatory does. Also, the younger person can be just as likely to be predatory." This is true; it all depends on one's motives for dating with a wide age gap either way with either sex. If a guy is exclusively going for younger girls then it's likely that he is predatory and shallow (he'll be the type to abandon his gf or wife for a younger one once she ages out of his preference and/or hold sexist double standards for himself and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 10:38 AM
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The key phrase here is "as long as it is by a committed partner", meaning that sex is a meaningful and exclusive expression of love in the context of the committed relationship. That's not the same thing as a man selfishly using a woman as a living fleshlight (a.k.a. "pump-and-dump.")
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:58 AM
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Fewer men losing everything in a divorce too I'll concede that that one can be a legitimate concern. Couples really shouldn't go into marriage with the mindset that divorce is a general option, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:00 PM
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If that's the case, then fewer weddings are a good thing because men who basically don't see women as human beings shouldn't get married... or date either, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:49 PM
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Yeah, I once got accused of (and I directly quote) "using sex as a weapon" all because I told some selfish guy who'd kept trying (and failing) to coerce me to go at least halfway (stripping on webcam, being naked without penetration in person) that I wasn't gonna bend my principles for him or anyone else (like your best friend, I was waiting until marriage.) And the irony was that he'd previously said he cherished virginity and greatly respected me for my decision, blah blah blah... but in reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:57 AM
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I think this is unfortunately true in plenty of cases, but it really depends on whether or not they genuinely enjoyed each other's company when they got together and why they got together in the first place; if it was for any reason that didn't first and foremost include mutual love then they're likely to fall into that settling category of remaining together only because they're afraid of the consequences of being alone. This can also happen if they haven't been properly prioritizing and nurtur…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:24 AM
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Not everything in life has a stat, and stats aren't all there is to life. The problem with so many Redditors is that instead of actually going out and meeting people and learning about various individuals from a variety of backgrounds they think they can find a playbook on the Internet with an indisputable answer key, but human relationships are more complex than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:25 AM
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something that requires immediate rectification at the closest gymnasium. I pity any woman you ever get pregnant, then. I understand wanting her to be healthy and your preferred body type attraction-wise and that's fine, but I'd hope you'd be understanding of her if she struggled to drop baby weight and/or had other health issues that made it impossible for her to be overtly slim. It's fine to see the problem in actual gluttony (I see that as well), but it doesn't do any good to dehumanize peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:35 AM
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I wasn't just referring to Reddit women. Yes there's a threshold but not every woman has the exact same threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:16 AM
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No I'm literally talking about worldviews, morals, interests, etc. I've never been shallow enough to not take non-appearance dealbreakers into consideration, because I wanted a full-package relationship with the right guy which would lead to a mutually-fulfilling marriage (which I have now.) Btw my approach to this was no different with tall guys and I turned down incompatible tall (yes, including 6+ft.) guys who hit on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:46 AM
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Ok, but I was just pointing out that there are more women than men here are aware of who don't care about height. If you're looking for something real like love, then it doesn't really matter what all or most women think; the only one who matters is the woman who is right for you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:02 AM
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None, but it wasn't because of height being a dealbreaker or even a consideration for me. I did have crushes in the past on a couple of ultra-short guys (they were in the 5'2-5'4 range) and some other guys who were shorter than 5'9, but most of them didn't seem interested in me that way and as I got to know them better I noticed incompatibilities in our values and that one of those guys (one of the shortest ones, btw) already had a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:50 AM
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I'd imagine that other physical qualities would take much higher precedence. You imagine correctly. I for one never really cared about height. Long hair has always been my thing instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:56 PM
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Yes, I totally get your frustration because I've been there too. However, exceptions exist and it is possible to actively seek out those exceptions (in this case, people who are not hoes.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:43 PM
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So hoe mode is the default now for men and women ? Huh? No, I meant you don't have to participate in the hookup BS that's so popular right now. You said "I would ideally not like to be a hoe."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:27 PM
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Standards are set by expectations. Expectations are set by consenquences. Sure, but there should also be a personal conscience present in order for one to be a proper autonomous human. And I met my husband in university; my family didn't know him before I did. Granted, I did get to know him very well before we got married (as it should be.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:05 PM
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The problem is that many people don't hold themselves to proper standards and take responsibility for themselves. They'd rather blame "the wrong stimuli" or whatever for their own bad decisions. That's no excuse; people can and should do better even when there's no inherent danger or benefit to influence their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:49 PM
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/thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:33 PM
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Women likewise have genetic factors in their appearances changing (for examples weight distribution over the years, bra size, etc.) ED isn't strictly genetic; that is something which can happen to men due to age (or when younger, porn addiction, ofc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:21 PM
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While I understand the point you're making about people holding him accountable, if he's not being a gentleman even when no one's watching then he's not truly a gentleman and thus not marriage material. The thing to observe most when vetting is how he is when he expects to experience no negative consequences for anything he might potentially say and/or do; that is what shows the quality of person he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:47 PM
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Waiting until marriage for sex (and no sexual "loopholes" either!) is what worked for me. No F-boi was gonna stick around once he saw I was serious about that (and I never had any of those regrettable "pump & dump" encounters as a result.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:40 PM
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I accept that double standards are reality in the sense that many people hold them (but not all people do.) I don't accept that double standards are ok though, because they're not. And it isn't true that traits women find attractive in men don't likewise degrade; many of us love a full head of hair (even long hair specifically, in my case) and yet there are some guys going bald as early as their teens! The problem with black-and-white thinking is reducing women's preferences to wanting a guy's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:28 PM
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Just because double standards are reality doesn't make them acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:41 PM
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I'm genuinely repulsed by being a hoe and hoe culture. I would ideally not like to be a hoe. You don't have to be. You can stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:12 PM
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"That's what all the 'she had sex with other men faster/kinkier/cheaper than me' discussions boil down to." Not necessarily. There're still plenty of guys who sleep around yet don't like it when women do. It's called a double standard. Besides if people truly want dating, relationships, and ultimately marriage to improve then both men and women have to exert the effort necessary to actually, y'know, be worthy partners... which automatically makes promiscuity a no-go. "Only when you can say with …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:04 PM
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now that genders are flipping your suddenly all for it. No, what I'm not for is creeps who chase age-gapped dating/marriage for nefarious purposes (I include sugar babies and other such types in this too, not creepy older men alone.) Personally I don't prefer a large age gap, but I can acknowledge it can work for some couples if neither person is a creep and they just so happened to connect with each other specifically. 'Twas LittyKitsune (I now realize I got her username wrong in my previous co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:00 AM
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men dont age as badly as women Riiight because male pattern baldness, low T, and ED aren't things that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:13 AM
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Statistically, 10+ year age gaps don't bode well for relationships but I never said there aren't exceptions. I was using this particular example to point out that not all men think women hit the wall at 25. It's creepy to solely go for a big age gap for nefarious reasons and make excuses for it as opposed to just so happening to fall in love with someone of a significantly different age (the former is very common especially among older men, whereas the latter is relatively uncommon.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:10 AM
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Please see my replies to Top_Bedroom_4007.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:03 AM
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if Jason Momoa shows up to your doorstep tells you he left his wife for you. I'm happily married, so I'd reject him just like I would anybody else. When I was single, I'd've still likely rejected him because I didn't want a guy with baggage (I considered a divorce baggage, particularly since I was a never-married never-been-in-love virgin myself thus I sought a guy waaay closer to my level of experience.) I'd also like to reiterate the fun fact that Lady Kitsune pointed out: Jason Momoa's wife i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:14 AM
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Well those who see virginity as a red flag tend to be the ultra-promiscuous types who aren't what a self-respecting virgin tends to want anyway. There are low-N and virgin women who would see it instead as an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:48 PM
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So you'd prefer a binge-drinking, promiscuous (and likely unfaithful) woman with skin like leather over a woman who steers clear of hookup culture (and is certainly faithful) and the party scene in favor of participating in activities that actually add wholesome spice to life and who takes care of her health and appearance, just because the former is younger? That only proves you don't actually care about the quality of the person in any aspect and simply want someone naive or otherwise unaware …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:07 AM
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That's such a cop-out answer. Let's say there are two women; one is 20 and the other is 30. The 20-yr.-old is promiscuous, fries herself in tanning beds, and parties hard (drinking to the point of embarrassment, etc.) The 30-yr.-old is selective and trustworthy, wears sunscreen, and enjoys interesting activities (concerts, art galleries, sports, light social drinking, whatever) that don't result in doing regrettable things that reflect badly on her. Who's hotter, less jaded, and more fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:41 AM
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Ah yes, the ol' biology argument. If that's the case then it goes both ways. Men age too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:21 AM
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Just by virtue of being younger alone? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:15 AM
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Don't forget including "virgin" to that list too ROFL Oh my gosh you just made me laugh even harder! Both male and female virgins are rare nowadays. Unless you mean that women consider virginity baggage for a man... in which case, I thoroughly disagree with that notion. Self-control (if in fact he's deliberately waiting for marriage or something) is attractive. There are some women who don't share my view, but they're usually promiscuous types themselves. NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:14 AM
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Like? Divorces, baby-mommas, STDs, becoming bitter misogynists after getting burned (I mean, those feelings are understandable but will never be good for a relationship or for the person either), carrying torches for exes, pornsickness, etc. The same as women with baggage, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:02 AM
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I'm talking about actual baggage too, and guys have it just as much from what I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:41 AM
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most men at 30 are just starting out basically and dont have baggage. Rofl oh lawd, thanx for the hearty chuckle dude! It's rare these days to find anyone without dealbreaking baggage, and I'm ever-grateful to be out of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:30 AM
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I think they mean that women hit the wall earlier whereas men with high SMV peak in their 30s That's just a BS double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:18 AM
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if women are fine with treating men so brutally, i will do the same. So you've decided to be no better than they are, yet you think you deserve a better woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:17 AM
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Funny how guys who are bent on going after significantly younger gals will claim it's because they're rejecting the women who rejected them in the past as if all of the women their own age were the ones rejecting their ilk. I think that's just a male form of hamstering. Added to it is the fact that said guys will refer to women their own age as "old" but won't view themselves as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:30 AM
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Excellent move, Germany! Such good news indeed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/07/21 09:13 AM
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True, but I didn't know if it's still popular or not. (I know there is a CGI remake coming out though.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:21 AM
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Gonna show my age a bit here :P but Gomez & Morticia Addams are relationship goals. They're genuinely in love with and committed to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:01 AM
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Personally I honestly think Keanu's current gf is beautiful, which brings me to the point that beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. Perhaps Keanu doesn't see himself as "dating down" in looks at all! I think it knocks conventionally-attractive (objectively speaking from a societal standpoint) narcissistic chicks off their pedestal a bit to see that someone they perceive as "beneath" them in appearance is who a HVM like Keanu Reeves wants and that not every man is necessarily desirous of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:02 PM
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Sounds like a lotta naive women in these comments, ngl. Men can settle just the same as women can, and that's definitely something to watch out for no matter whether one is a man or a woman. As for my own answer, well I'm happily married now so I'm speaking here from the perspective of when I was single and seeking my future husband: In this scenario it sounds like we'd both be settling, because if I subjectively viewed him as merely average-looking then it sounds like I'm really not that attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:35 AM
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Women aren't a monolith. Are there some who regret not having children? Sure, but there are also regretful parents. There are likewise both mothers and women without children who are happy. Besides, putting the entire meaning of one's life into reproduction is a toxic way of thinking. That's why women who define themselves that way only to later find out they're infertile emotionally suffer unduly. Disappointment over their lot in life is normal, but not to the extent that they feel like failure…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:53 AM
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You misunderstood me. I meant women are socialized to tolerate men "hitting the wall."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:20 PM
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Male youth has no value so we can’t really waste it That isn't true; men can "hit the wall" as much as women can. The only difference is that women have been socialized to tolerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:05 PM
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Any self-respecting unicorn isn't gonna want a guy who refuses to live up to the same (or at least similar) standards the unicorn herself has been living up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:37 PM
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Yeah, and that (both parties being engaging during dates) is one of the areas in which FDS is wrong. I never said they weren't wrong about that, about their misandry, etc. All I said was that they have some highly valid points that can be applied while tossing out the toxic parts. Generally men are the ones who ask out women, so they should plan the dates when they do. I've noticed it seems more and more men are just not wanting to put in any effort and want the woman to do everything for them (…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:01 AM
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It doesn't have to be so extreme. So many people seem to think that it either has to be fundamentalistic complementarianism or feminazism, neither of which is healthy. Husbands and wives are equals as human beings. That doesn't mean one can't defer to the other when needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:17 AM
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A relationship that is equal is a relationship that the woman leaves. Rofl I guess you're expecting me to divorce any day now... imagine thinking having respect for one's spouse causes one's spouse to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 06:28 AM
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And ya a lot of men don't put in any effort and why should they when you women don't put in any effort in? There's the blame-game I was talking about. Each person is responsible for his or her own actions and should put in effort to be a decent person regardless of how others act. This does not mean one has to date people who don't live up to the same standards, but it does mean that one shouldn't let oneself grow so bitter that one unduly scapegoats others. Holding a conversation and engaging i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 06:24 AM
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Rofl well your flair checks out totally. Marriage-minded gentlemen (with emphasis on gentlemen) marry for love, not for a jailbait PUA-approved trophy. Ages can vary, and 25-year-olds can be virgins too (admittedly rare in this day and age, but not nonexistent.) Well in my experience Kevin Samuels is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:43 AM
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First of all, most women don't want to be "pumped & dumped" so setting sexual limits is reasonable and helps weed out the players (most particularly if a woman is waiting for marriage, and don't say none do because I myself did and I'm not the only one.) Paying for dates and making plans are simply minor efforts, and as the relationship progresses there's nothing wrong with the partners switching out paying and planning. Ofc so many guys today don't want to put in any effort at all unless it's c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:22 AM
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So it doesn't matter for them. It does matter to women who know the difference between marriage-minded men vs. men who aim to screw around as long as they can and only after that decide to settle for a wife (usually a significantly younger one, ofc) because they can't pull as many "plates" anymore. More women in general are wising up to double standards, and more quality ladies are seeking a quality (and often close in age) gentleman who lives up to the standards they themselves have been living…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:07 AM
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I did say FDS are misandrist and that's a fault, yes. However, their expectations are not all unreasonable. Many men just don't like being called out on BS and would rather blame it all on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:51 AM
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Women can't expect "real" if they have wasted their youth though. Men waste their youth too, so that's not strictly a female thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:45 AM
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Exactly! A hiking date sounds fun to me, because it's not about the money but about gauging relationship potential and spending quality time together (understandable to not want to go hiking in a secluded location with a date one doesn't yet know well though; I'd say that's probably more of a bf & gf thing to do or at least a thing to do with a friend group.) Picnics, public park dates, coffee dates, etc., there's nothing inherently wrong with those. I get that there are likely some actual miser…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:49 AM
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Simping to get into girls' pants isn't taking responsibility. TRP is largely about manipulation and racking up one's N-count ("plating" and other such BS which is no better than women riding the CC.) Practicing self-control while seeking something real is taking responsibility. Quality ladies and gentlemen aren't about hookup culture and the toxic mindsets that accompany it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:38 AM
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Wow, that's quite a history to say the least. But the good news is that you see it for what it is and want to change. You can't change the past, but you can change the present to improve both the present and the future. Don't give up on that. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:30 AM
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They go overboard by crossing over into misandry and getting caught up in materialism (caring too much about a man's salary), but they definitely have some solid advice otherwise that coincides with my own viewpoint. I think the real reason so many people rail against them is because they unabashedly call out a lot of BS (and I admire FDS for that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:23 AM
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No pain, no gain. Everyone should be striving to be a decent person regardless of relationship goals anyway. And if they'd do that, relationships would improve along with other aspects of life. It's really not an impossible feat for each individual to consciously do better; it's just that most don't want to let go of their selfishness and/or laziness to accomplish it. But that's literally their own fault and can be remedied.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:02 AM
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Yah.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:53 PM
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Well that goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:46 PM
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This here is the crux of the issue. In order for relationships to function properly and love to flourish, both men and women are going to have to take responsibility for their own improvement and actively seek real quality people instead of blaming each other for their own bad behavior and toxic mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:54 PM
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Based AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:16 PM
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"Stable." "Polyamorous." LOL I LOLed in the literal sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:09 PM
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Might just conclude that anything that didn't lead to marriage was casual Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:06 PM
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fuck buddies What's the difference between that and FWB though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:02 PM
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You're welcome! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:19 PM
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I love your flair! Also take my upvote for your comment. ^_^)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:57 AM
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I'd say the overall content matters more than the posts themselves. Scantily-clad pictures, too many opposite-sex "friends" (especially if they all "happen to be" physically attractive), excessive personal drama-posting, etc. are all red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 10:25 PM
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Interesting, I wasn't aware of that!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 03:46 AM
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Oh no. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:46 AM
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Noice! Clever and cool poster too. "At the moment, I don't know what stomach there would be for stories about societies falling apart, so I'm not working away on one of those." Dude knows his audience, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:43 AM
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Previous generations' hookup cultures were bad enough, but just imagine what Zoomers will face being raised on Internet porn and artificially-enhanced Internet "influencers." It's gonna be a dumpsterfire on top of a dumpsterfire for their future relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:18 AM
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Read the synopsis of the first episode to decide whether or not you wanna skip that episode (I will say it's not overtly graphic, but it is disturbing.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:10 AM
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I made it all the way from the first episode in season 1 to the first episode of season 2, then I quit because it was depressing me lol. All excellently-executed intelligent cautionary tales, but dang. Literally every single ending was dystopian AF (not that that's a bad thing; they are cautionary tales after all... but definitely not the kind of stuff most people would wanna binge-watch like I did, lol.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 01:08 AM
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Point 1: Exactly; completely selfish motives without substantial care for the other person and without regard for a real relationship, essentially using people as a masturbatory aid. Point 2: True, although some people will branch out and date others with different beliefs to see if it can eventually work if they already like the person (or out of desperation at not finding anyone eligible with matching beliefs.) Point 3: I don't think it's as cut-and-dry as that, but the RPers love to tout it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:56 AM
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Describe how hookup culture creates such a large group of virgin men and an even larger group of sexless men. The mindsets prevalent in hookup culture are inherently selfish. Hookup culture is rife with double standards and it's all about using people rather than actually finding the right person. Any decent person (man or woman) who has higher standards than that will often get rejected for his or her values. Guys who want to be players but are too socially inept to pull that off (blurting out …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:38 AM
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...there wouldn't be such a significant portion of the male population struggling with finding a spouse... 1/3 of male college students are virgins and that 2/3 of them didn't have sex for over a year And this is automatically women's fault entirely? I don't think so. Hookup culture and toxic mindsets on both sides are to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:25 PM
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Yeah, I imagine a lot of toxic relationships would end which wouldn't be a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:05 PM
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I am simply making the point that anyone who is in a LTR who publically posts pictures of themselves on whatever platform is giving both an incentive and the means for any interested party to privately contact them. My only public social media pictures include my husband in them. And that's in part specifically to discourage creepers (I have gotten a few attempting to hit me up anyway, but they got promptly ignored and deleted and my husband and I would share a chuckle about it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:51 PM
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You're not accounting for the scope of human individuality and how much leeway there really can be in natural, instinctive attraction. Many people can hold the same standards, but I wouldn't say most. And some people, both men and women, are pickier than others for various reasons (some of which have to do with social conditioning.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:47 AM
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Yeah it is optimistic but I'm not naive, hence I see how crucial it is to vet thoroughly. There is such a thing as unrealistic standards, but not everyone holds those. There exist people who are subjectively attracted to features that society would deem objectively unattractive (chubbiness, ultra-thinness, big noses, whatever) and people who don't care about society's objective beauty standards (for example, some women don't care about men's height and some men don't care about women's bra size.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 09:54 PM
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Yes, there are both men and women with significant issues still getting into relationships. If there weren't, no relationships would be dysfunctional in the way so many of them are. And that's what I meant by standards. The standard should be to find the right person instead of settling out of desperation. Sure it may be a longer wait, but it'll be worthwhile provided one is not thinking in a one-sided manner and thus also has the self-awareness to strive to become a better future partner in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:27 PM
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Both lack standards when it comes to substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:46 PM
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There are even guys in relationships who pull this crap (I see complaints about it all the time in subs for relationships and advice), so I don't think that's the issue here. And no guy is "having to do this"; they choose to instead of holding out for something real. Yes loneliness sucks, but doing this won't make them less lonely in reality, and it just shows a lack of self-control and standards which is unattractive. Quality, self-respecting ladies don't want guys who'll simp for any ho. The c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:41 PM
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Still, if your ex had misgivings about gender identity prior to marriage, then your ex should have been open with you about that so you could've made an educated decision about following through with the relationship and wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:22 PM
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I thought I was bi and they were a straight man. Turns out she was also a bi woman. Ok lemme see if I've got this correct - You thought this person was a biological man but turns out this person was actually a biological woman, no? This person was dishonest with you, and therein lies the problem. Waiting wasn't the issue; deception was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 05:03 PM
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Oh, we exist. Admittedly we're rare in today's world, though. But as much as it sucks for people to be alone, that's still better than settling for the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:48 PM
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Yes!!!!! No more degeneracy, everyone should stay as virgins until they are married, and they should only ever have sex with their spouse, not just for children but also for enjoyment so that they may bond better as a couple. Well you had us in the first half, not gonna lie. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:15 PM
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I wasn't putting sexual attraction before romantic attraction/caring; to me they go hand-in-hand but in order to love or even merely like somebody as a person one has to actually get to know the person whereas sexual/physical attraction can be immediately determined just by looking at the person, which is why sexual/physical attraction occurs first. I didn't sexually act on initial physical attraction (I was a virgin bride and I don't mean just a "technical virgin"; I'm talking full abstinence w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 01:45 AM
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People who say sexual attraction first are setting themselves up for a garbage life. This isn't true. Here's why: When we first meet a person, said person is a total stranger. Romantic attraction comes from actually getting to know the person. At first sight we can tell if we're sexually attracted, though. So in my case I was immediately sexually attracted to my husband when I first saw him, and once I got to know that he is not only hot but also a good guy (and the right one for me), romantic a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:37 PM
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The way I see it, aging is going to happen if we live long enough. While we can mitigate some of its effects by taking better care of ourselves, aging as a whole is unfortunately inevitable and that possibly includes balding. And marriage is for all stages of life, including old age. Couples in love tend to reminisce about their early days together and that along with their well-established bond helps them keep their "spouse goggles" on and they can even still be legitimately attracted to each o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:19 AM
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there are awesome men out there without hair, it is just something that I'm not attracted to. There are many other women who are though, so to each their own. I'm the same way about that. And I don't just like hair in general; I'm into specifically long or at the absolute least longish hair (short hair is a straight-up turnoff.) My husband has beautiful hippy hair, haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:55 PM
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I didn't say you personally were complaining; I was comparing your situations to a phenomenon other men often complain about which is AF/BB (a.k.a. using people.) And if you loved that one girl, your utilitarian mindset wasn't demonstrating it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 10:01 AM
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Most of that is true, sadly (I disagree about siblings though; contrary to the stereotype only children are not inherently spoiled; that depends on their upbringing just like it does with multiple children.) But change can still start with individuals and every individual, children included, should adopt a mindset of accepting responsibility for their own actions (ofc children have to be taught but they can still take responsibility for the times when they do something they know is wrong; learni…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:55 AM
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Like what is supposed to regulate our behavior. We should each regulate our own behavior. We're each responsible for our own actions. Parents should prepare their children for doing so by properly educating them from the start about that and not making excuses for their children's bad behavior. It would help if society supported such values too, but it ultimately has to begin with individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:51 AM
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I haven't had one GF that I needed for anything other than sex I came close with one she was good with things like ordering stuff we needed on Amazon,keeping track of my schedule.My friend has a rich GF that takes him on trips and buys him things, interestingly he says he's not sexually attracted to her but other than that she's the perfect GF. This is just using people. I see no mention in that paragraph of mutual love and mutual attraction going hand-in-hand, commitment, etc. (despite the fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:42 AM
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"Men can cheat on women who they love..." That's not love and your GF was not in fact the center of your world, since you were picking and choosing stand-ins for whatever you felt your GF was lacking. If she'd truly been the center of your world you wouldn't even have noticed the others enough to even remotely consider cheating with them and you wouldn't have perceived her as lesser than them in any way. To truly love a person in a serious romantic relationship is to love all of that person, phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:32 AM
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Like you I've always had consistent preferences too, and I know I'm not the only woman in the world who does. And as I've demonstrated in my previous comment I don't ascribe personality traits based on physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:02 PM
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"If women did not find bad boys attractive, then muscular men would not be popular with women." This is assuming muscular and/or otherwise physically attractive men are always "bad boys." It is possible to select for both attraction and substance without sacrificing either; I did and I know I'm not the only one. I never saw bad boys as having any specific appearance (although society does superficially associate certain looks with them); a bad boy like you're talking about is defined by his acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:44 AM
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It's how society has been set up under a male dominated system for thousands of years... And that is relevant to today's freer environment, how? As for the why, well most of the responses did not appear to be the result of old sexist norms but instead quite love-oriented and devoid of double standards (note how the scenario is that the men would have the same low N as the women, and several commenters were not only accepting of that but actually eager for it) which I find wholesome and romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:40 PM
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First of all, it's an epidemic of both female and male irresponsibility and poor choices. Each individual is responsible for her or his own behavior. Secondly, you misunderstand. I wasn't proposing that we force anyone to be together. I was only proposing that both parents should do their parenting whether that's together or with joint custody arrangements. Thirdly, these are not my choices because women (and men) are not a monolith; I never participated in hookup culture and I literally have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:29 PM
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I've been faithful to her since we met Yet you keep written chronicles of exes for... what, fond nostalgic reminiscence? That's not faithful in the emotional sense. She deserves so much better than this. Why not do your best to eliminate that baggage from your life if you care about her (or ever having a healthy relationship in general) so much? As you can tell from this thread, there are many more women who are turned off both by N-count and such attitudes toward it than guys on this sub are aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:48 AM
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Eh, I'm neither traditionalist nor modernist. I take the good from both and ditch the bad from both, because both go to opposite extremes and balance is key. I agree that some of the laws (no-fault divorce, etc.) should definitely be reexamined and changed and attitudes toward hookup culture should also change, but I'm not in favor of returning to the old ways of women being considered chattel. Besides, individual people can still make the right decisions despite what's going on in society; all …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:03 AM
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I'll seem experienced if I'm ever lucky enough to meet a girl who's legitimately relationship minded Trust me, fewer of us are impressed by "experience" than you think. Especially those of us who are legitimately marriage-minded. You don't need to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:32 AM
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I'm pleasantly surprised that the majority of responders are answering in the enthusiastic affirmative (I was cynically expecting the replies to mostly consist of the hypocritical players who wanna ho around and then expect to marry a virgin or low-N woman once they feel like they're too worn-out to continue their promiscuity.) I wish I had wholesome awards for all these dudes, but my upvotes will have to suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:06 AM
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Hard disagree, because this is just making excuses for fathers to be deadbeats. Yes the mother legally decides whether the baby lives long enough to be born or not, but the baby already exists regardless of the parents' wishes (if the new life didn't exist, then abortion wouldn't be sought to get rid of it.) Both men and women should be responsible; they're equally involved in the creation of the new life (barring rape, obviously) therefore they're equally accountable for raising that child if n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:16 AM
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This comment section is pretty refreshing to see! I'm kinda surprised how much awareness has begun to be raised about this porn trash in an environment such as Reddit, even if it is in response to a CMV post. 1 and 3 are very often caused by porn. There is scientific evidence that porn affects the brain in negative ways which include the alteration of sexual preferences and perceptions of people (porn in general rewires the brain to perceive them as objects instead of human beings, and certain g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:35 AM
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and no one else ever. Then the best way to do that is for both men and women to wait until marriage. This hookup culture BS results in people being used for and using others for sex and then getting dumped or ghosted or doing so to others, which obviously results in higher N counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 10:56 AM
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We all do. We'll, some of us think you are traps. My husband would disagree. He views me as neither of those things. But then he's a quality gentleman who is capable of love, so... I understand if you're bitter about past experiences of rejection, being cheated on, whatever they are but you shouldn't take that out on the entire female sex (and naturally the same goes for bitter women taking it out on the entire male sex.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:24 AM
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If you're that bitter, might wanna just stay away from women altogether. Also to address generalizations, see my flair. To reiterate: we aren't all Reddit stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:30 PM
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There's nothing wrong with wanting more than one kid, but if that comes at the expense of valuing one's wife in and of herself then it's pretty darn misogynistic. And it's blatantly misogynistic when you literally said "What the fuck good are you if you're not an incubator" and described a wife as an "aging boring burden." (As if you won't age too.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:10 PM
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Do you only see women as incubators? What the fuck good are you if you're not an incubator Clearly he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:58 AM
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I am! (^_^) (I'm neither TRP nor PUA btw.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:52 AM
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/thread. I'm unfamiliar with those books but you totally nailed the underlying issue! I chose to never participate in hookup culture for several reasons (including its shallowness), but the more I hear/read about others' experiences in it the more I'm appalled at how much mediocrity and downright disrespect so many will repeatedly put up with. It makes me go "Wow, that really sucks. I already knew it is generally empty but I didn't know the activity itself could be that unenjoyable when it's so …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:19 AM
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Still real people's voices. There's no such thing as porn without real people in at least some capacity, though I will concede that hentai is below liveaction porn on the totem pole in terms of human trafficking. But hentai does have the same negative effects on the brain as liveaction porn. How do you think the concept of having (and in the most extreme cases, even preferring) a fictional "waifu" instead of, y'know, a real wife, came to be taken seriously by certain niche groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 11:49 PM
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With an FwB you use a real person to get off. You do realize that the actors in porn are real people too, no? It's often more indirect than direct hookups but then there's the interactive cam girl thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:08 AM
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I agree with you, except where you said "...when the bride is not pure..." it should have been "...when the bride and groom are not pure..." If one truly values abstinence until marriage, then it goes both ways no excuses. A somewhat less important correction I'd like to make is that the white dress didn't originally signify purity; that was merely a trend started by Queen Victoria. But yes, virginity was considered relevant in the past and some of us still hold that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 03:59 AM
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You don't want them to pop up in the middle of dinner. xD This induced Alanis Morissette's "You Oughta Know" to start playing in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:34 AM
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My mistake; I didn't notice the flair at first. I won't be offended if my comments are deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:44 AM
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I would just prefer my partner to have experience in pleasing me Even the most promiscuous/experienced person started out as a virgin, yet he/she managed to learn how to have sex long before racking up that sky-high N count. And couples can arguably more easily grow in satisfaction together if they aren't basing their techniques on exes who might differ in preferences from one's spouse. And while it is true that purity-culture causes potentially life-ruining issues (which can often be remedied w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:43 AM
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Women who don't like sex are more likely to be virgins. I'd say that depends more on why the woman in question is a virgin. If it's due to full conviction in certain moral reasons to the extent that she'd practice the utmost self-control even despite her desires to the contrary, then her being a virgin has no bearing on her natural libido unless she's also internalized some toxic purity-culture ideas. I am a woman, actually. And prior to my wedding I was one of those virgins you're so leery of, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:49 AM
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How many virgins have you met? Virgins are individual people just like everyone else; there are both suitable and unsuitable ones for marriage. And there is a way to combat ugly surprises such as you've mentioned: open and honest communication about those matters before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:33 AM
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You're welcome! ^_^)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:19 AM
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People can do what they want, yes, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily what they should do. And it does make you a hypocrite if you're judging them for being easy when you yourself are easy sometimes. I will concede that it's understandable to set standards like "I don't do ONS, so I'd prefer my future SO to steer clear of ONS as well" or "I'd like my future SO's N-count to be around the same as mine" or "I don't have kids so I'd prefer that my future SO not be a single parent." But you just …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:12 AM
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To anyone serious about waiting for marriage, it's about reserving something that's supposed to be completely exclusive for one's future spouse. With this mindset sex is not a game, it's not just something to do with whoever; it's meant to be a meaningful form of intimacy and practicing self-control is a sincere commitment to one's future spouse even before they meet. As for knowledge, one doesn't have to be entirely ignorant just because one isn't actively partaking; one can read about the mech…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:37 PM
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I don't know why sexually frigid women would be preferable in the first place!? Virgin does not necessarily mean sexually frigid! Many virgins actively choose to wait until marriage, not at all because they would prefer to do so in terms of desire but entirely because they believe it's important to do so despite their immediate desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:20 PM
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Never met a guy who wasn't a creep that had a preference for a virgin. There is one exception to that: guys who are virgins themselves. Nothing wrong with someone who's waiting and seeking someone else with a similar value system and/or someone inexperienced who is seeking someone else with the same level of inexperience, as long as they're not fetishizing it by dehumanizing the other person for said sexual experience or inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:03 PM
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I would rather a girl reject my advances and make me wait. See, herein lies the problem. Virgins (and nonvirgins who have since changed their ways) who are serious about waiting for marriage aren't gonna be down with your hypocrisy and even nonvirgins who aren't waiting will likewise call it out, and for good reason! Each of us is independently responsible for how we handle our own sexual desires; we don't need babysitters to police our own behavior. If you truly value waiting, then you should p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:38 PM
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So basically he’s mad that he didn’t live it up while younger and projecting it on to her. No, the way I see it is he's mad (and most importantly, devastatingly hurt) that he got betrayed and clowned by their whole marriage being built on a lie, and his and her values never having been truly aligned (if she had fully renounced her past and been honest with him from the get-go, perhaps things could have turned out differently. Even if not, at least she would've been blameless of deception and man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:49 PM
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I do not hail from such a culture and in all honesty never have been in favor of arranged marriage. I've recently read enlightening comments in a sub titled r/ABCDesis, most of whom in more than one thread pointed out the problematic nature of such lackluster utilitarian unions and the pressures to go along with their families' wishes (and many here are likewise pointing out those concerns.) One in particular on that sub summed it up well: "I had a decision to make and I chose my love relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:39 PM
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Oh I see, yeah RedPill ideas are a retaliation just as FDS and other ideologies are. Like I said, there is a tiny bit of RedPill I can see as having a point but problem is they take it way too far with their misogynistic AWALT bitterness, not to mention double standards (understandable to feel bitter but that's something that should be fought against not embraced, because it hardens one's heart to hatred.) I feel similarly about FDS; there are more FDS ideas I agree with (hence I lurk there occa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 11:32 PM
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I don't have any reason to lie, but it's up to you whether or not to believe me. Those people who supposedly don't party but actually do on the down-low are hypocrites who don't practice (and generally don't fully understand or even believe, usually due to lack of proper education about the purpose behind it all) what they preach. When I was single I turned down guys who thought they could disrespect my boundaries by attempting to weasel me out of my convictions, and I also avoided the hypocriti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 11:08 PM
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There's very little about the RedPill I agree with but I understand and acknowledge their point about AF/BB, but unlike them I think it's every bit as bad for men to F around with the "hot crazies" or whatever and then settle for proverbial naive "good girls" once they start feeling old. Both are equally reprehensible to me (that's not to say such women and men can't see the error of their ways and then sincerely regret their pasts and change, but I'm not referring to them.) It's ok to take issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 07:03 PM
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Your perspective there is limited though, because all of what you witnessed was in the party scene. Of course wild partiers are going to act trashy. That's too small a sample size to go on. It is relevant info, but only in conjunction with the bigger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:31 PM
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I thought they were pretty much the same thing? Neither are big on marriage, both are into hookups (generally speaking) from what I can tell (granted, I only have rudimentary knowledge of these things from reading Reddit posts though, lol.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:13 AM
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I agree with ya about the double standards. As for dating multiple people the way it's done these days, we can agree to disagree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:57 AM
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Actually it's equally bad for either to participate in such destructive behavior, and two wrongs don't make a right. And just as not all men are promiscuous misogynists, not all women are promiscuous misandrists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:40 AM
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Women I am using? No, because I don't do that and I am a woman myself. Women the F-bois are using? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 12:00 AM
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What are plates? That's a RedPill slang for chicks a player uses to sleep around with. Basically a wannabe harem situation; "plates" clearly aren't respected as people and are kept in rotation (the player is "spinning plates", as RedPill misogynists say) until said player gets bored of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 08:38 PM
3

Buckle up babies, because I've got an incredibly unpopular opinion barreling through! No, neither of these is acceptable because philandering is direct infidelity and porn is indirect infidelity. Self-control and fidelity are the answers here, and if a guy feels like he's missing out or whatever due to choosing his own wife over porn and hoes/side pieces then he should do some serious in-depth soul-searching into his perception of marriage, sex, relationships and women, as well as reconsider how…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:55 PM
2

It is feasible; it's just that people don't want to practice the incredible self-control necessary to accomplish it. The trick is to actually be convicted in the belief that it is truly the right choice. If one is on the fence about it, ignorant about its importance, or otherwise feels half-arsed about it, then one is likely to stumble; I certainly would have if I hadn't been fully convinced. Don't give up on yourself. If instead you're referring to potentially not ever finding another virgin to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:19 PM
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Username checks out. I definitely wasn't expecting a comment like yours, especially after reading the others on here (some of them include good points, but they miss the main point imho.) This is so refreshing to see! I too waited until marriage, and I believe that is truly the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 08:55 AM
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