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I’d rather hold onto my self respect and respect for my partner than have a fling. The right woman would break you like a toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:06 AM
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It could be if you don't adapt to it, but good or bad it's coming anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:50 PM
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Buddy damn, there are large swathes of men who could cheat but choose not to Not the same thing. There are lots of men that could hire a prostitute—short term or long term—and fuck her. But very few men actually get the sort of attention from women they're attracted to, that OP is talking about. That animal, visceral sexual hunger. That is rare as fuck and the average straight men has no defense against it. The Fox and the Grapes scenario. Aesop knew what's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:39 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:28 PM
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The revulsion and resentment created by the expectation of physical intimacy with someone I wasn't sexually attracted to. It took me a while but eventually I learned there are worse things than not getting sexual validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:48 PM
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The sexes are are inherently at odds due to our mismatched reproductive interests. There's always been a gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:32 AM
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It doesn't exist yet, but it will soon. That's the whole point of the post. A conversational agent like ChatGPT would be a good interface, add in a facial recognition model trained to mouth read on and micro expression and facial capillary data and you've basically got the closest thing to mind-reading we'll get before brain-computer interface. We're kinda going through an AI revolution right now. It's going to affect everything, but especially digital facing services like online dating. We're b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:49 AM
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That isn’t possible Look up ChatGPT on YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:36 AM
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You're still missing the point. Imagine Siri being smart enough to act as your dating coach and let you know when people around you are attracted to you. Or is capable of looking through dating profiles and social media to match you with people you have near perfect compatibility with. That's coming soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:32 AM
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But the point of these apps isn’t compatibility. Grindr and similar apps actually try very hard to make sure that their users can get exactly what they want. In some of these apps you can select guys down to circumcision status. With such a big technological advantage it would be a no brainer for Grindr's owners to open up the service to the heterosexual market. Even if it'd only attract the small percentage of women seeking excellent casual sex and the few men capable of attracting them, it'd i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:07 AM
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I mean the point of Tinder and Hinge is to get you to keep using it. Grindr or a Grindr competitor will absolute use this technology and its effectiveness will make consumers want it. Upstart startups would pop up to meet demand if the current market leaders didn't respond. Remember Tinder is nothing but a sad clone of Grindr they attempted to adapt to the hetero market. More importantly, any AI assistant trained to serve as a dating/life coach could do this really. You're getting too caught up …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:47 AM
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How would that issue be fixed? It's not an issue to be fixed, at least not by dating algorithms. They will help you compete for your target but they can do nothing to disqualify worthier males from getting there first. It's very possible such an AI would just tell you outright that you're not attractive enough for the people you want and link you to a sex doll store or give you advice on how to use cognitive behavioral therapy to help you lower your standards. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:57 AM
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Of course. If the relationship started with an expectation of physical intimacy and both partners were committed to maintaining sexual compatibility stuff like that needs to be taken seriously. Otherwise that's just a first class ticket to dead bedroom town. That said... It's only reasonable if you communicated those preferences before the relationship got serious, though. Sexual compatibility should be the kind of stuff you hash out in the Tindr stage of dating, not after you're married with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:55 AM
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And you say women can multitask better than men? Eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 07:57 AM
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Unless your partner's penis is magically changing sizes, your ability to do it with different sizes is useless. Do you expect to only have sex with a single person until you die? I didn't sign up for that and neither did most modern people. It's also not just about size, it takes feedback from multiple partners to truly learn the ins and outs of the male body because the overwhelming majority of sex education out there is aimed at teaching straight men how to please womem. At least it did for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:43 AM
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That man is an idiot. Sexual skills are generalizable if you've got more than three brain cells and know how to communicate like an adult. No one is born knowing how to deep throat a dick, how to suppress the gag reflex or how male erogenous spots work. It took me dozens of times with guys with different sizes and techniques to feel comfortable with my oral skills to that extent. Sex gets better the more of it you have and diversity of experience matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:27 AM
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I understand the argument that girls just want to use you for money or take advantage of you by robbing you, or whatever, but can you blame me for having a false sense of hope. If you didn't feel that way then men wouldn't be such an easy mark for ambitious women. Always remember that this only flows one way; women will on average never want a man, any man, as much as men want women. And third world women are typically heartless predators when it comes to men. I grew up in one of these countries…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:54 PM
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Suicide was the 'retirement plan' for elders in many traditional communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:47 PM
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Natural selection doesn't care about your feelings, soft boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:22 PM
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Stop sending internet randoms your personal pics bud, that's dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:00 PM
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Your terms are not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:07 PM
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I'm speaking purely in terms of sexual desire as the determining factor. Any man can purchase access to women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:45 PM
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Straight men sure seems to think so. They kill and die for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 08:46 PM
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You can't discount random body parts arbitrarily to make a point. The value of female sexuality an intrinsic apart of what makes women valuable and men not. The value of women is determined by men and vice versa. And men want women a lot more than women want men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 08:10 PM
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The lowest rung of males have always led worthless lives. Modern times are still better than the overwhelming majority of history for leftover males. Look at the percentage that reproduced according to our genetic record.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:33 PM
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If you know the spirit of the statement why are you arguing about the letter of it? Just to waste both our times? Also, 'high value compared to' is an acceptable qualifier here anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:24 PM
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What will talking about it do, besides informing previously oblivious males that they're worthless? It's a problem with no readily apparent, immediately available solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:19 PM
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Value is value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:16 PM
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You're missing the point. She might not be high value according to you, but her value will be higher than a male in a comparable position. Certainly higher than a crackhead. Let's revisit my original statement: the average male is of lower value than the average female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:13 PM
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It doesn't matter what men they are. Demand increases value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:06 PM
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My best guess is that you are suggesting that widespread monogamy (however instituted), which is a kind of male sexual socialism, whatever impact on women's actual selectivity it has had, has suppressed their ability to fully manifest that selectivity for so long that the dysgenic impacts have piled up. Exactly. Look at Indian and Chinese males. Long-term social marriage civilizations like these will struggle to transition to love marriage without massive population decline. They've been telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:06 PM
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Is an attractive stripper high value Much higher value. There are men lining up to date hot strippers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:58 PM
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Every human alive today is descended from a few thousand survivors of some cataclysm. We'll be fine in the long term. It's the transition that will be painful for leftover men and lonely women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:48 PM
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Look at Dinka and Nuer men. In these tribes where the only way to get a wife is to beat another guy, kill a lion or even wrestle down the woman you want to marry. And you end up with tall, beautiful men with massive dicks. I don't think it's a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:44 PM
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Women overrate themselves all the time. Men set women's value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:30 PM
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The average woman is high value compared to the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:27 PM
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They sure as fuck can intuit that a short father is more likely to produce short sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:20 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers, they determine which males are fit to mate. If women don't think you measure up it doesn't mean their standards are 'too high'. It is completely normal for unfit males to go unfucked and not reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:19 PM
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It is possible that the current, Black Pillish, perceived prioritization of women on male appearance is actually a distortion brought on by low absolute levels of male attractiveness in the west. The west has had one of the freest sexual markets of any civilization for centuries. Men from arranged marriage, cousin-marrying and family-match making cultures are much more fucked in the long term because they produce the least desirable males. Women won't want to birth sons for these men if they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:14 PM
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But if he just can’t get any women it’s not really a ridiculous point. If he literally can't get any women to show interest that's an answer too. He's unfit to mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:59 PM
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Fat women have higher SMV than fit men. Is this somehow news to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:57 PM
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Not automatically, no. But being cheated on by all of your multiple partners is not normal either. There's some personal responsibility there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:55 PM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:53 PM
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Imagine thinking being physically active is 'extreme fitness'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:52 PM
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You're not the oracle at Delphi sweety. Spare us the vague prognostications
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:25 PM
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Something that seemed impossible until just recently. It did not. We always knew conservative supreme court justices were a threat, people just didn't prioritize it politically and now here we are. Abortion helped destroy Republican momentum in the midterm and basically marginalized the party for a generation. Look at Kansas, Minnesota and so on. Abortion restrictions will fail at the ballot in most places. The long term effect will be red states getting poorer and becoming more of a sausage fes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:17 PM
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Abortion didn't get banned. Powers were devolved to the states, with mixed results.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:04 PM
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Law and Order 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:31 PM
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Men simply don't have the votes. Women and their allies dominate the electorate, overwhelmingly so once you control for age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:18 PM
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Yes, that's how supply and demand works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:34 PM
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The mating game is the most important contest there is. Calling those that fail to mate losers of that game is completely apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 04:31 PM
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Do I need to repeat myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:52 AM
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Loser in this context being shorthand for men women don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:21 AM
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Women of previous generations didn't want losers either. That's why families usually stuck these guys in monasteries or sent them off to get killed. The modern world is the golden age of losers. They actually sort of kinda get to participate in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:11 AM
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Men should not have to settle for ugly women because women are delusional. Dying alone is a perfectly valid option too. They don't have to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:31 PM
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All of your posts so far come across as extremely bitter towards females.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 11:53 PM
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So you're queer? How does one of our kind end up a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 11:47 PM
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How can the orgasm gap be a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 11:02 PM
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You're coming across as a closeted sub/sub in denial attempting to maintain your self-respect. I'm not your therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:44 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:22 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/most-popular-sex-positions-141155079.html It's common knowledge among those of us that study sex has been and often replicated. There's a hypothesis that women evolved visible breasts even when not nursing as a proxy for the buttocks during missionary sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:21 PM
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There's been surveys on this. Dom straight men's preferred position is doggy, which makes perfect sense in light of primate mating behavior btw
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:58 PM
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Holy non-sequitur. Imagine needing pussy so bad that it makes you hate women this much. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:35 PM
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I don't disagree. Both things can be true: dominant men are rare and people that claim to prefer dominance don't often prioritize it during mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:58 PM
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I think the idea as I’ve said it before is that dick is the polluting organ. If that were the case then heterosexuality is doomed. There's simply no way to fit this point in view in a world where the sexes cooperate for their mutual wellbeing and actually enjoy and desire each other. Women are simply going to continue divesting themselves from men until the sexes are living side by side but not interacting much beyond professional or social reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:35 PM
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Nope, it's mechanical pussyfeel. Uh huh. It's the mouthfeel bruh... 🤨 Also, you're thinking in a dom/sub dichotomy when it's more complex than that. Sure, you could be a switch but I think it's safe to say you're disqualified by OPs standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:26 PM
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By far my best orgasms are in that position. You're a sub. Sex is mostly psychological, even for men. If you have disproportionately better sexual experiences when being put in a sexually submissive position...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:16 PM
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Every man I know into submissive things refuses to admit it’s submissive lol You can't blame them for internalizing society's preferences, but it's actually impressive how well they hide it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:15 PM
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Seems like you’re talking about gays/subs. I am talking about human sexuality as a whole, male, female and everything in between. I meant masculinity as a whole. For example if you have a wife that serves all her womanly duties and you provide her safety and security you are experiencing a more masculine lifestyle than 90% of the west. That's not what neither OP nor myself were talking about. Also you place a weird importance on sex within masculinity, its much more than sex. I'm keeping things …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:03 PM
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Maybe in the West, the opposite is true for Middle Eastern men. Everyone plays their role You can lie to others, maybe even yourself but at the end of the day you are what you are. Specially sexually. In the West we are just open about these aspects of human nature. In more traditional cultures only the wives typically get to experience all the ways men fail to measure up. Specially in the bedroom, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:20 AM
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I'm someone that used to have similar preferences in men and concur with your assessment that there are actually rather few men that genuinely fit that mold. And so many pretenders and poseurs it's almost impossible to sort through them to find your target. I've come to realize over the years that patriarchal masculinity is completely aspirational. It's what some men wish they were, what some men look up to and admire. But most men don't actually measure up and most that seem to at first or seco…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:49 AM
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Worldwide? Without question. It's hard to guess in developed countries but the millennial and gen z cohorts are now in the majority so maybe not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:18 AM
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but I've never experienced this on my end in such an extreme way that could literally kill a desire that's always been there. The world doesn't revolve around you. Other people are very different from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:26 PM
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That's often a sign that sex WAS working before, and then stopped... Not necessarily, maybe not even primarily. There's a lot of diverse factors driving dead bedrooms. Examples: One partner thinks the sex was fine, the other can't or won't communicate otherwise They develop sexually or discover incompatibilities that makes sex undesirable One partner was never sexually actually attracted, the other assumed attraction People lie to themselves and others about their needs to bargain in the sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:04 PM
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points once again to r/deadbedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:02 PM
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From what I've observed, the conflict here comes down to so many heterosexuals neglecting sexual compatibility when picking a mate and expecting things to 'just work out'; as if every woman and men were sexually interchangeable for anyone else of the same sex. They often prioritize attractiveness, productivity, status, personality... and end up in dead bedrooms. You don't get to have it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:36 AM
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A lot of Christian Americans would quickly answer yes to that question without hesitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:31 PM
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Conflict is literally built into gender relationships because the sexes have different biological priorities. Also, when you say you want a return to a time of harmony between the sexes, when exactly are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:42 PM
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Dating protocols as an average straight man are one hell of a gauntlet. There's typically just no option to just sit there passively and see who approaches for guys that can't handle the soul crushing pain of rejection. Wanting people that don't want you; being desired by people we don't desire. The human experience right there. Males typically get it worst but ultimately none of us can help what we're attracted to so most of us are dying of thirst at sea. It sucks, but dealing with stuff like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:13 AM
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Alot of the males are at zero. Lower class. From what I understand male mating success followed your typical bell curve. The pair bonders, the middle class as you describe them, being the overwhelming majority. The polygynous alphas and their harems at the top being as small a minority as the the left overs and deviants at the bottom. (Keep in mind that not every man that failed to mate with a woman actually had any interest to, for a number of reasons. Male neurological diversity is insane.) We…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:07 AM
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No we need high IQ first world populations to breed like mad. Thats it. thats how we start to fix anything. They won't. So we will grow babies in pods like we do salmon, because we can and most importantly because we'll have no choice. There's no salvation for our species without technology. We must both offset our losses and increase our level of development to avoid extinction. It's not negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:56 PM
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Low birth rates are an intrinsic characeristic of industrial civilization. The only way to avoid extinction in the long run is to remain technological and to go that we will need industrialize reproduction, just as it was only way to finally escape the Malthusian trap of agricultural yield and population scaling. Groups like the Amish and Orthodox Jews have zero defence against existential risk or technological bad actors. And those are the conditions required to maintain high fertility; there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 11:33 PM
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100 years is a very long time, we don't know what the future will be like 10 years down the line, let alone 80. In the meantime, all industrialized nations are experiencing a demographic crisis and the United States is by far the best situated to ride it out. Civilization collapse would just take us where we're going (ancestral mating habits) faster. Forced monogamy where every man gets a wife isn't coming back. Only the worthy males will fuck, as it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:39 PM
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Whatever your personal justifications, our societies have resoundingly decided that is not the way we want to live. Less charitably, high value males, women and their allies outnumber and outvote low value males and will hunt them like rabid dogs if they become ungovernable. These guys used to become monks and such, it's not like there's anything new under this sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:11 PM
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Bottom men get absolutely nothing form this system; in fact the system punishes them for things that are mainly outside their control. If these leftover men had a collective voice, what exactly would they ask for? A return to forced monogamy? That's untenable. We all can see the gender war raging around us and where it's leading. But a clear off ramp is yet to manifest. So what men tend to contribute the most is easily distributed by government, such as protection and wealth, but what women cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:38 PM
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In the event of WW3 western societies would find themselves crippled and this would led to the downfall of them. Meatsack soldiers are only a concern for poor shitholes. Let me keep this discussion in context by reminding everyone that this entire country was basically the equivalent of a classroom hamster for the United States. We got bored and moved on, losing only 2,456 of our brave and beautiful American heroes.🦅 Soon though—like within the decade—we won't need to risk our precious American …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:17 AM
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Property and lineage weren't such a factor until land became something one could inherit though. I also don't see how that makes rape specifically desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:59 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:44 PM
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I don't really. My experience in gay spaces tells me men will push implied consent as far as they can and do whatever they think they can get away with while avoiding social censure. I think men wish to exist in an ideal state where consent is assumed and a lot of nonviolent rape stems from the mismatch of that expectation and the reality that their preferred partners simply have a sexuality that is alien to the male experience. My belief is that men don't want to rape, they want to live in worl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:16 PM
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That's patently stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:13 PM
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So women are not overreacting with the way they view men. the threat is ever-present unless actively curtailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:12 PM
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It's an evolved preference. And it evolved because males can fuck and leave and women cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:57 PM
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Then you cant Have an endless pleasure carousel where only the top 20% of men get anything better than bitterly settled for. That has always been the case. Womem in the past didn't desire ugly men any more than modern women do. Husbands would just beat their wives when they. communicated things they didn't like and maritally rape them. At best the woman would live a lifetime hiding her true desires and manipulating her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:56 PM
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How is OP hateful? I mean, the poster might be but the post itself is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:54 PM
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Are most men potential rapists/inherently evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:53 PM
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The most robust forms are always the F1 feral forms. But men raised in patriarchal societies steadily degenerate from wild wolves into toy chihuahuas. This then becomes a problem for those men, women forced to fuck them, and the species as a whole. Especially once fairer competition is ever restored. I'm so glad to see this sentiment begin to gain traction. Patriarchal civilization produced weak, unfit and undesirable men and I'm sick of weak, undesirable men attempt to gaslight away this realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:51 PM
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The drive gap exists because women invest more on their offspring than men do. It is biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:41 PM
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you don't have 5-6 girls flocking to a top guy, so every guy feasibly can get a wife. Guys that don't deserve wives 'getting' wives typically involves some women ending up with men neither they themselves or anyone else wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:15 PM
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Thankfully, in our modern society we can increasingly ignore what any person or group thinks. Social atomization for the win I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:13 PM
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Men can't win when they're primarily fighting other men. Nature will always have its say. Patriarchal culture was unnatural and unsustainable; hence it only lasted a few thousand years and has now collapsed. Men can't win because men can't cooperate unless literally forced to. That was what patriarchal civilization was; everyone that didn't adopt the values got killed off or absorbed. There's no similar force pushing that kind of cooperation nowadays and there might never be again. Men are so we…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:59 PM
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Yes, there's injustice in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:50 PM
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You can't have expectation of paternal investment in an environment of promiscuity because it fucks with perception of paternity certainty Which is why we should have financial abortion for fathers. The fact that we don't is a clear example of women abusing their power against men. Modern civilization no longer relies on inheritance and lineage as one of the primary means of self-perpetuation. If you want to see what the future of (some) human reproduction will be like, look at the Jacana. Repro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:39 PM
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What the poster above said about millennial and gen z marriage/divorce stats is accurate. Marriage nowadays is rarer because women don't have to settle for schools to survive and men don't need a wife to be socially acceptable. Now, only people that want to be together stay together. Hence divorce rates going down as marriage rates drop. A majority of couples from previous generations should have never been together in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:16 PM
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That's no evidence, just confirmation bias. It's always been the case that people see what they want to see; it's not until they start trying to put numbers to it that reality begins to intrude upon the delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:09 PM
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Is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Guns are legal here and I'm an excellent shot. I'm perfectly capable of protecting myself against violent Boomers. 😁 If these men did maritally rape their wives they have no incentive to admit such or see things in such a light. But nevertheless, marital rape was ubiquitous for most of human history, as was women being married off to men they found repulsive or settling for the first schmuck that came around in order not to starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:02 PM
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Patriarchal culture as you're describing was a direct consequence of farming, which upended mating strategies fit to the local environment and replaced them with a one-size-fits-all form of social arrangement that outcompeted others. Such pressures are obviously no longer in effect, since agro-patriarchal values have been slowly collapsing since the industrial revolution and with the advent of capitalism. There have always been sociopathic, cruel and controlling men. Sedentary agriculture allowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:55 PM
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Don't talk to women if their opinions get you so pressed. Surely it's not worth it. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:48 PM
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Ah so all of our grandparents/great grandparents were evil rapists huh Google the history and legality of marital rape. Why don't you go tell them? They're dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:47 PM
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And if only one gender can win, it might as well be men It won't be. There are as many men that would fight this as approve. Most typical men would; they wouldn't have given women the vote and every single thing they've asked for since otherwise. This male delusion of the modern world as something woman have forcibly taken from men is ridiculous. The majority of men are natural simps that want nothing but to serve women and they will kill any man that threatens their goddesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:42 PM
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Why are you listening to these women in the first place unless you are going out seeking material to injure yourself with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:38 PM
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90% marriage rate in 1950 A huge chunk of those women had to stop themselves from recoiling in disgust every time their husbands touched them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:36 PM
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Do you have any evidence to substantiate any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:35 PM
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Everyone in a democratic society gets to decide how resources are allocated. If you don't like that you are free to tap out and go live in a cave. You could also become politically active and try and get votes I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:29 PM
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I don't think your dad or anyone is to blame here. It's just your nature and there's nothing wrong with that. We are what we are and that's OK, even when it puts us at odds with everyone else. You're not broken. A distaste for promiscuity is just as natural as a tendency towards it. Humans are diverse. The bigger question here is why you're so down on yourself. You're not responsible for being cheated on, even if your partners were sexually dissatisfied. They should have spoken to you about thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:25 PM
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As I said in one of my other comments……not using condoms in situations where condoms should be used now, will be a thing for the dumb. It's called having a male sex drive. Testosterone lowers inhibitions, increases risk-taking behavior and makes sex into a terminal value for males in a way it can never be for females. Men will literally risk AIDS to get their dicks wet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:20 PM
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Sure but women are not gay men…..and you can only get women pregnant. Men are men regardless of sexuality and they want to rawdog. And typically, some women have been open to it. You think condoms are not used in hookups and not committed relationships? Heterosexual have relatively low condom usage and it's overwhelmingly contraceptive according to everything I've read on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:00 PM
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But this will not help avoid STDs, so condoms will still be necessary. I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of heterosexual condom use is contraceptive and it was low to begin with. It's like HIV in the gay community, AIDSs and pregnancy are much scarier boogeymen than Chlamydia. Now that there are superior options for HIV prevention gay men are increasingly going back to bareback sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:53 PM
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Firstly, casual sex is about getting off. If your motivations for fucking casually is anything but the sex act itself, you've already gone wrong. Don't use it as a proxy for a relationship with someone you couldn't otherwise have. The truth is the overwhelming majority of people you have casual sex with, unless it's that type of dysfunctional parasocial attachment, will not typically be the kind of person you actually want to be exclusive with once you get to know them better. You're not actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:47 PM
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Males are more diverse than females across all traits. We know this. You're missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:31 PM
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No, why should undesirable men get sexual attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:30 PM
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I didn't mean your sister's situation specifically, but size difference is something I've seen both sexes obsess about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:36 PM
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You know tall men pursue this dynamic for their own reasons though, right? A lot of these guys with tiny little women are fantasizing that she's a child, either coverlet or overtly; age play fetish, daddy/little girl kinks and such are increasingly more visible in straight kink spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:28 PM
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Condoms reduce sensitivity and many men can't stay hard with them on. And vasectomies are not necessarily reversible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:06 PM
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Btw easy for you to act the moral high ground given that you're blessed with Chad looks. Where did you get this from? I already do just through the little destructive things. Gotta destroy society from the inside because it doesn't care about men's needs. Well, once you're in prison you will no longer have to worry about your virginity. I love this for you. 💛
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:04 PM
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Women obviously want a penis that will satisfy them, and each woman will have varying standards as to what that means. But they don't spend their time looking at dicks and obsessing about them like men do. The overwhelming majority of women don't give dicks a second thought unless one happens to be right in their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:50 PM
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But it does translate into forcing our hard earned money back to society through taxes...into stuff that the average single guy (think the average Billy) is not gonna benefit from...pretty similar to forcing women in your example I'd say. You're free to tap out of society and go live in a swamp. No one will ever bother you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:48 PM
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Support for the homeless typically doesn't translate into forcing women to satisfy their sexual needs. Some people are too undesirable to mate, by nature, and that's OK. It's normal. We should support unwanted and leftover people through government subsidized therapy and such, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:24 PM
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Why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:17 PM
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Women couldn't give less of a shit about penises, that's a male obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:16 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:52 PM
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The point is that you can't fight biology. You can work with it or you can tap out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:02 AM
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Weakness is repulsive in men. Women typically can express weakness without disgusting people; men cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:47 PM
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The dollar dominates because the United States dominates. You've got your cause and effect backwards. Dollar isn't going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:01 PM
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What made you decide to date men? In my experience most men that have sex with both will do the opposite; date women, fuck guys. I found your post very interesting by the way. People tend to prefer exclusivity but they realize that the person they're having sex with is more attractive than they would be able to get exclusivity with so rather than lower their expectations sexually or physically they lower their expectations emotionally which is probably not good but it's it's one of two choices. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:42 PM
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So you end up getting a bunch of bitter quasi feminine dudes who have mostly female friends or other feminine male friends who are very upset with men in general You've spent a lot of time watching our community. What does ex-hetero mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:14 PM
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This is always the question isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:14 PM
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I think the disconnect here comes from the fact that some men secretly and openly don't really care whether their partner enjoys sex. She's basically just a vessel for his sperm and they want one that hasn't had other sperm in it. Contrast with the men whose primary concern is whether their women feels genuine attraction and sexual hunger towards them. Both types of men are represented in this community.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:16 PM
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Hair removal. 😖
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:02 AM
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they get cucked by black and arab men nowadays tbh Seems to be the growing opinion among nonwhite men but women clearly don't see it that way yet, if they ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:23 PM
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I agree, white men are currently very desirable in our globalized world. Definitely at the top of the male hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:15 PM
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What truth? The only truth that deserves any air time in this ridiculous debate is that a significant minority of men simply aren't good enough for the partners they want. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:56 PM
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where are you from? Rural Cuba. And yeah, male sexuality seems to be getting weirder and weirder. You'd think guys so desperate for female attention would try harder to at least keep their degeneracy in check. A lot of these guys even if they get a girl they'd probably be bored to death with sex with an actual woman cause it can't measure up to hentai. All the weird porn that they've been posting during this purge says everything that needs to be said imo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:39 PM
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I literally grew up in a third world shithole seeing unwanted and sexually neglected men fuck farm animals so often that it was was basically normalized and joked about. And so many of these fuckers think they're too good for black women and any other vaguely feminine person that would ever want them. They have no idea how much worse things are about to get. 🍿💅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:26 PM
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The only way to avoid the suffering that comes from living in a society is to remove yourself from it. You can try to change it but typically your time would be better spent changing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:19 PM
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I'm staying out of this one. 🍆🍆
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:33 AM
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They provide a tangible service and are compensated for it. Scammers, by definition, do not. And to the dudes subbed to OF girls, get a fucking hold of yourself and have some self respect. My OnlyFans sub helps my favorite bodybuilder afford his gear. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:19 AM
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And they should be free to do so. Even if it means a lot of men die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:40 AM
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just like today The difference is consent. People getting into polyamorous or open arrangements willingly is not the same as doing it because they have no other choice or are forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:03 AM
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David Sinclair thinks we're a few years away from curing aging; who else's opinion would you trust here? AI experts are seriously discussing the prospect of artificial super intelligence. GPT4 comes out this year, expect some incredible things
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:03 AM
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The issue is technology isn''t moving fast enough We're literally in the middle of a AI revolution right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:24 PM
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You... seriously believe this? Look at the fertility rates of Muslim majority countries around the world, one or two decades from going below replacement or already there. Your incel revolution isn't coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:06 PM
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There's just something about a mature man in a well-broken pair of boots. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:05 PM
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I get the feeling that society is going to go ahead and disregard your input on this one. 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:45 PM
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Low testosterone effort. 😫
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:51 PM
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It should extend to relationships, women can't remain an exception and do whatever they want, then ask other to pay their bill. The solution seems obvious. Tax women more until they're no longer net tax receivers. I don't know but that ses preferable to sexual slavery to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:41 PM
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According to Goodreads I have 461 books on my shelf. About 23 books per year since I started keeping track. Seems low but I mostly read for pleasure. Except for notable books, I prefer to go directly to the papers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:40 PM
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Epstein wasn’t white. He was Jewish 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:18 PM
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Women aren't children; they are as free to make bad choices. If we're going to constrain any groups freedom for the sake of social well-being, we'd be better off sticking men in single-sex penal colonies and only let them out to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:06 PM
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Yes, that's definitely true. The Epstein-style trafficking that white men are typically involved with doesn't get as much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:59 PM
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Can you elaborate or am I supposed to read your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:39 PM
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But it’s a group that exists for not attractive people that can’t get casual sex in the normal way attractive people can. It’s a false promise for most. Men that prioritize sexual compatibility might prefer choosing a woman that shares their specific kinks and fetishes over fucking a more attractive woman that they're not compatible with. And since men are more sexually diverse than women, unless you prioritize sexual compatibility you're going to end up with a woman that doesn't want to peg you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:34 PM
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We don't have to explain the why to measure the effect. The desire to conquer and possess smaller, weaker beings seems to be an intrinsic aspect of the sexuality of dominant males. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:28 PM
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Women are not participation trophies. When losers speak of 'high quality' women what they actually mean is subjugated women that didn't have many choices. The evidence is that as soon as women had choices, the first thing they did was to get as far away from these men as they could. Take a hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:22 PM
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In an open sexual market where women are fully free to choose, you'd expect to see both polygyny and polyandry in my opinion. The bottleneck for both is female preference, not male. There are millions of sexually submissive men that would give anything for a dominant woman to choose them, and they would not mind sharing. But these women are much rather than the men that desire them. Similarly, once you take away the material reasons that drove women into polygynous arrangements you actually end …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:15 PM
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Driven purely by men's thirst, yes. And it's only going to increase until we get full dive VR or sexbots.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:44 PM
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All purchases increase value. Merchants don't care where their profits come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:37 PM
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I do wonder if we’ve convinced ourselves of a narrative that people did not used to love each other because marriage was about property, land, inheritance, etc Love is not sexual desire though. Incels' obsession with this over all else is very modern and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:28 PM
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Value is value. It's the reason we can assign monetary values to highly disparate goods and services. Value is only determined by how much people are willing to pay. That's it, nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:24 PM
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🤭 Men stupid enough to believe this have always been women's favorite mark, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:21 PM
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Doesn't matter why. The one-way flow of attention and resource is the proof of women's value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:19 PM
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It proves you demonstably wrong when men are willing to help non-white girls a fucking ocean away but you claim they somehow don't care about non-white girls in your own country That statement was part of a larger point: that many men already do everything they can for pussy, openly and covertly. Like your husband who works with teen and preteen victims of rape and prostitution? Nope. My husband has a type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:19 PM
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sorry you aren't that special If men treat women like goddesses why should women not expect worship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:14 PM
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As someone from a developing country; sexual desire has nothing to do with traditional relationships. At least not for women and very often also not for men for whom it is only one of many competing priorities. The massive drop in marriage rates in developed countries is a result of only people that genuinely want to be together, being together. And it will drop even further as both sexes become increasingly more entitled to sexual fulfillment. The idea that a woman must desire her husband in or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:11 PM
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What does Boko Haram have to do with victims of sex trafficking in the United States? The subject of this discussion is what men are and aren't willing to do in order to fulfill their desires. What OP advocates is already the case; men will do whatever they think they can get away with and more beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:07 PM
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Yes, female AND children, name a combination more hated by society. As opposed to white children, yes. Is this surprising or unprecedented? As long as you don't actually show any numbers, it truly can be as grim as you want it to be. How convenient Somehow I doubt men prone to publicly minimizing the rape and torture of little girls will suddenly have a change of heart when presented with enough data to meet some arbitrary threshold. There's so many of you in this world; men that secretly and op…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:59 PM
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So you're saying your issues are much more complex and deep-seated. So, mental illness, lack of masculinity, off-putting preferences and behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:44 PM
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Her embryos failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:41 PM
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They already do. My husband works with teen and preteen victims of rape and prostitution. I'm ashamed I used to think that sex trafficking was your typical feminist non-issue. Sad to be proven wrong. The reality is grim and we actually hear very little of just how bad it is because most of the victims are minority girls that no one cares about. Literally until very recently these girls could be beaten, burned with irons, starved, hooked on drugs and everyone would just shrug their shoulders and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:33 PM
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We're just getting started. You will be a gay sex slave and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:43 PM
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To be fair, dicks are delicious. Who can blame her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:11 PM
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Some of my best ruts have been with fat, ugly studs. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:37 AM
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It's an old joke Cpt. Autismo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:23 AM
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Nature is healing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:04 AM
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We're just getting started.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:28 AM
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Succubus legion is ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:14 AM
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Our biotech is getting pretty impressive; current research should reach maturation phase in about 10 to 15 years, depending on our progress on AI. We should have full morphological freedom, the ability to fully edit your body's appearance and functions before the end of the century.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:39 PM
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Nah. We'll see the first femboy pregnancy will by the early 30s. 🫄
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:17 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:55 PM
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^ Never had a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:13 PM
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Of course he does. This is PPD. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:43 PM
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It'll happen. We have no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:20 PM
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Thousands of relationships like this are formed every single day around the world. Many people in poor countries don't marry for sex, life's just easier with someone on your team. And it's absolutely possible to have a long, healthy and loving relationship like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:46 PM
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Once you stop prioritizing sexual compatibility it's actually very easy to find someone looking for partnership and companionship, just make sure you're both on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:35 PM
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So hot. 🥵
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:25 AM
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Certainly doesn't hurt the sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:07 AM
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That's the average age of marriage for men in polygamous societies if I remember correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:27 AM
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That's what I said, this is my first purge actually paying attention to the sub and I'm not surprised at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:23 AM
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"Women" (male)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:19 AM
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Circumcised. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:18 AM
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there's no such thing as free dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:07 AM
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Savage and true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:43 PM
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😒
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:39 PM
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I have no idea what you just said but I bet you it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:37 PM
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Nah. It was over before it could begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:33 PM
1

If anything the women of PPD are likely to be more tolerant than the average out in the real world. This is just not what a woman wants from a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:30 PM
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It's the same weird unsexy shit to the average woman. Like, how can you not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:23 PM
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You're making your ancestors cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:19 PM
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I don't understand the big deal about skin color. They all taste the same on the inside. 👓
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:18 PM
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OK, make it 35 and I make the cut. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:06 PM
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Your nasty cartoon femdom cuck fantasies shit is not it. Like, it kinda explains why you're posting on PPD and getting no bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:05 PM
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Men can’t share a woman’s womb Cats can do so theoretically so could we, with a little tweaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:00 PM
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Bro, you got issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:39 PM
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Everyone single after 30 is leftover garbage, no exceptions. My advice? Just pick someone that you enjoy spending time with. We're social monkeys, we're not meant to be along for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:32 PM
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Sounds gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:28 PM
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Yeah. Typically the most cartoonishly, overtly evil and physically violent people tend to be male. Male homophobes are literal murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:25 PM
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Your gay son will suck a hundred dicks before he's 30, what's the difference exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:24 PM
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Ye but I'm not worried about other men, I'm worried about me. This inability to cooperate is my favorite thing about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:21 PM
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This means most men won't get either the casual sex or the chaste wife. It's mathematically impossible, specially taking women's preferences into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:16 PM
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Demographic collapse will be economically devastating, but slow. Pre-industrial cultures will not be a threat to the industrialized world in any sense through the end of this century. We've got about a hundred years to figure out how to grow babies in the lab.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:12 PM
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A weeb and a submissive... There was never any hope for this one. ✂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:00 PM
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If this is what PPD men fantasize about it would explain so much. 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:57 PM
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I hate this art style. Japan was a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:50 PM
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Yes. Femboys are feminine guys, typically homosexual. Transgender people identify as the opposite sex and can be straight or gay. Most trans women are lesbian afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:20 PM
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So we're going back to eunuchs, pederasty and catamites huh. There's truly nothing new under the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:16 PM
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Femboys aren't trans. That's homophobic bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:15 PM
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Now you're speaking my language. That said, if we survive to the end of the century people will be able to look however we want, pornographic experiences will be indistinguishable from reality and babies will be grown in clinics. The end of sexual activity is within sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:13 PM
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I certainly enjoyed a few “Miss Right Nows” while I was looking for “Miss Right”, but I never expected them to be the same woman. The fact that men think they can separate the two is the source of so many dead bedrooms and divorces. Doing things that way doesn't necessarily result in better outcomes for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:03 PM
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Any guy that doesn't excite you sexually is bad in bed by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:50 PM
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Well yeah, you aren't supposed to become his baby mama. That's an obvious failure mode. Just dip in and out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:38 PM
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What's the difference between trying hot guys that you'll have good sex with hoping to find a decent one vs. having bad sex with a decent but boring man and hoping he'll magically become attractive? At least with the first option you're having fun while you search. Serial monogamy is not fooling anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:28 PM
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As I said, these preferences are universal among everyone sexually attracted to males. The basis of the sexual attraction to maleness is inherently tied to the dimorphic size difference between males and females. You guys were colonized by whites so fucking hard, that no other dick satisfy you. Nilotic peoples literally have the darkest skin in the world. Whiteness has nothing to do with it; only power and the ability to take up space in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:14 PM
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It has nothing to do with race. Some ethnicities are naturally taller, thicker, have greater muscle density, longer limbs etc. I find the same qualities attractive in Mongolian males as do Scandinavian males or East Africans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:54 PM
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Mangolians have everything different from whites Not where it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:32 PM
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Mangolians are large Funny because Mongolians are my favorite men from that region. They remind me of Polynesians. Arabs are large And they can be very beautiful, particularly the Mediterraneans. So are the Nilotic males of East Africa; comparable in beauty to any viking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:59 PM
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I mean it's you theory that facial structure, body type or whatever has a universal unique criteria which whites have. Larger men, in every sense, are universally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:36 PM
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That's why you need to go out and travel other countries I've lived in and traveled to multiple countries and continents. You can pick and choose whatever you think is unique about white guys and say these are universally attractive traits. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:18 PM
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As one of those people pleasing doormats, I'll go against the grain here and say that everyone loves to compare 'nice' to the ideal, well-rounded partner they wish they had. But how many of us actually end up finding that kind of perfect compatibility? My husband and I are both similar in that sense. So we're a bit co-dependent, always rushing to comfort and please the other sometimes to the point of absurdity and smothering. I still find it preferable to my single life and my experiences with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:10 PM
2

Google the evolution of altruism and eusociality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:47 PM
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Why do you need to be peacocking to get interest? Why do peacocks display their tails? To impress the peahens. We're not a lekking species like them, but our females still enjoy a good show.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:43 PM
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I make a distinction between sex you have to pay for and sex someone's eager to provide but my point is that unwanted sex is unwanted sex. If we had no standards or preferences no one would be sexually frustrated. Ultimately it doesn't matter who wants you, only who you want. This is true for the ugliest man as it is for the most beautiful woman. Our preferences disqualify us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:31 PM
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Like, yeah, it's so sad the person you set out to exploit was better at exploitation than you are because they come from a world built on exploitation. Exactly so. People from rich countries don't understand just how dog eat dog life can be in poorer regions of the world and what effect that has on people's moral inhibitions. How often does the average American feel true desperation for survival, where you don't know where your next meal is going to come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:24 PM
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The fertility rate in industrialized Muslim countries is cratering.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:10 PM
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points to the local gloryhole
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:08 PM
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No their is nothing special about white males except they are rich and ruling class. That's enough. Status is attractive; much more so to women than my kind, too. But I was referring to physical traits: Height Facial structure Secondary sexual characteristics Body proportions It's actually very easy tease out which preferences are socially derived i.e. racism and which ones are intrinsic, since human attractiveness runs along ethnolinguistic lines, not racial ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:59 PM
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If I’m bigger and stronger than you, then I’m probably able to take your shit from you by force. But the police will intervene on behalf of “society” and stop me (or at least punish me after the fact). Yes, the social contract is something we give each other. If you try to hurt me a big burly cop will tase you because my taxes pay for his wages. It's called cooperation. We don’t and have never lived in a complete free for all society where winner takes all and it’s survival of the fittest. Thank…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:52 PM
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Yes, that's what a simp is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:37 PM
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Cishet males such as yourself tend to see male sexuality through the same predatory and injurious lens that women do; not surprisingly since you have an outgroup bias towards them. But in reality male sexuality is not any more dysfunctional or problematic than female. The two co-evolved, in essence men are what women have made them and vice versa. Males are sexual specialists at the individual level and generalists as a population. Women are the opposite. In other words, males focus sexually on …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:35 PM
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You see men being attracted to a human being physically, so, not to objects, and then have an open mind regarding this person's personality. And you decided to call it objectifying. More than that, male sexuality can actually be humanizing in practice. The hyperfocus that some call objectification is actually part of what makes guys more open to seeing sexual beauty in a broader range of people i.e. being less picky as you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:20 PM
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Why are you expecting stacy treatment when you are not stacy? A better question to ask is why simps are giving them the Stacey treatment. Everyone likes free shit. Women are not going to be lining up to spoil an average guy. That's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:06 PM
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Desires are local bro. There are physical traits that are universally sexually desirable among everyone attracted to males. Female sexuality, being much less flexible than male, in conjunction with hypergamy means that women's eyes will always wander to the top of the hierarchy. And the hierarchy is global now. I don't pretend to understand what makes women desirable or the inner workings of those that find them attractive. But I've spent all my life around people primarily attracted to men, of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:59 PM
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I'm already partnered and not attracted to women, I'm just discussing my understanding of female/human desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:28 PM
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Anyone can get something, just not necessarily something they're attracted to. There's always going to be people into you that you aren't into, regardless of who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:23 PM
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Trust me as an immigrant guy most of white guys look faminine/dumb to me as they we were shown as such on TV in my country. You're not a woman. There's peak masculinity as women's genes understand it and there's masculinity as in the tricks men use to make themselves more desirable in women's eyes. There's overlap but only one of those is mutable. Thats what I am trying to tell you and look I guessed you nationality. How? Dumpster diving through my profile? You have me at a disadvantage; where a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:19 AM
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Yes. They're physically desired but take a hit on status. Black men are the equivalent of girls you fuck but don't take home to your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:57 AM
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It's the colour of skin because blacks are more masculine looking And black men are sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:41 AM
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That's horrific. You realize this logic makes men and women fundamentally incompatible while both sides expects to be fulfilled, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 02:02 AM
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Mostly everyone that is attracted to masculinity is attracted to roughly the same physical qualities. And different populations of men across the world don't express these equally. In other words, once the dating market became global all men are competing under the same rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:56 AM
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The male ideal is universal. When you have different groups with such radically diverse phenotypes there are going to be closer matches than others by population. It's inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:36 AM
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Well, I'm Latin. Not brown nor female but close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:23 AM
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My question is why is there such an imbalance? Why can't the man just have sex normally and both be happy? Men and women are different and have competing interests, needs and desires. The compromise between these opposite forces is the core of heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:17 AM
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Never get them a citizenship and you're good. 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:01 AM
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The nerd deserves his looksmatch Gross. No one deserves anything in this world; you get what people are willing to give or what you can take for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:00 AM
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Women in my birth country find any random white dude attractive. Why shouldn't they? The 'average' white man is pretty attractive in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:45 PM
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Women might not get they want, but they're not forced to settle for what they definitely don't want. And that freedom is a win for them and human dignity. I can't imagine what it would be like to have to make yourself sexually available to a gross guy for decades of your life as the only way to survive. I knew so many women like that in my birth country.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:36 PM
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A lot of things are said to be just around the corner in headlines/press releases but we never seem to round the corner and the timeliness just keep getting pushed out. Technology progresses along a series of s-curves. The ones we care about here are just now leaving the early adopter stage. Also that is just aging It was just an example of the progress we're making with biotech. There are dozens of other relevant breakthroughs in biotech in the last two decades, such as the discovery if CRISPR …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:20 PM
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Soon. We live in crazier times than most realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:44 PM
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Casual sex will go away when welfare ends and a recession hits and suddenly beta bucks is sexy lol. Not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:10 PM
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Women are becoming more and more unrealistic and bloated with here expectations, Women have always desired the same exact type of man. Always, across all cultures. Now they're just free to tell the losers that they're losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:09 PM
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At the end of the day that (icky) truck driver grinding 50 hours a week is starting to look pretty juicy. Since when are truck drivers icky?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:00 PM
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I don't see what they wouldn't, society's trending towards being more tolerant of sex and gender outliers. And those technologies are close.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:55 PM
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Your league is what you can get, basically. And some people are going to be inevitably priced out of the market when they run out of things to compromise on and still can't find someone desirable. It's unfair, it's excruciating but it's reality. At least until it's cheaper and less invasive to change our appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:44 PM
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Your incel revolution isn't coming. We're not going back to subsistence farming and forced monogamy. You'll get sexbots, virtual reality and government subsidized sex changes though. Have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:36 PM
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That's a misunderstanding of the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:35 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:49 PM
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Additionally, traits like rebelliousness are less attractive in societies that value stability like China, You're confusing social and sexual desirability. In societies like China and India a man has to impress her parents and marriage is purely about assets, lineage and the family name. These women aren't picking husbands out of sexual desire and haven't been for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:35 PM
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OP is literally complaining that the women he thought was just ugly enough to settle for turns out to actually have better options. How is she the problem here and not the fact that OP is not attractive enough for the kind of women he thinks he deserves?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:04 PM
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You didn't say a single good thing about this girl in your rant You were looking for someone to settle for and are salty to learn that she was out of your league all along. Your standards are too high, simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:01 PM
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If you're hoping billions of people die so you can get your dick wet (this is what societal collapse actually entails) you deserve to die alone, suffering every step of the way. Your incel revolution isn't coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:59 PM
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Nope. My kind lacks in empathy by definition. We can be productive members of society if we are given the right incentive. There's a difference between instinctive altruism and enlightened self-interest. Complex societies couldn't function if people were like you and made decisions as you do. She got even better results. The kind of life that would be completely out of her reach without me. Assuming this is not a LARP; it's not actually over until the fat lady sings. Are you going to put her in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:15 AM
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I am built for society, Your kind is parasitic by definition. Society can't function with that many defectors, I think the max is 10% antisocials before things break down. I got results That's your side of the story. Most women are not good partners so they are not in a position that advantaged compared to their competition. Your definition of a good partner is out of step.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:29 PM
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The latter. See the flair. It is not a secret. You're an outlier; society is not built for you or your preferences and generalizing from your personal experiences and values will never give you an accurate map of normal humanity. Honestly you belong in this discussion less than I do and I'm not even into females. The only reason a woman that dedicates her life and efforts to be a good partner ends up divorced is because she stopped being a good partner (under her control) or because she vetted p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:32 PM
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This is an ever growing minority of men and if we don’t take steps to rectify this it’ll explode and we’ll be back to Hunter and gatherer harems And why is this a problem? If certain ethnic groups and civilizations produce so many men that are repulsive to women to the point they'd rather stay alone or share, the only path forward is for only attractive men to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:20 PM
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You have offered no defense to your argument that I can see. Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:08 PM
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She can just get another job. Getting a new husband, specially with children, is considerably harder. Your argument is either very stupid or autistic/sociopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:57 PM
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Simply put. The level of obliviousness and entitlement in this post is off the chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:02 PM
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One you reach ages 65-80 Sixty-six percent of respondents were married or partnered, 15 percent were divorced or separated, 12 percent were widowed and 7 percent had never married. Why do you assume the younger generations will age into similar stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:20 AM
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Level-headed. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:15 AM
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It's too early to say. There's a lot of cultural momentum behind our social institutions, but the trends are not encouraging. We still don't even know the 'natural' rate of sexlessness for our current male population, as it keeps increasing year on year. Once we have an idea how many leftover men there actually are it'll be easier to model the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:09 PM
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That first guy, it's bizarre to me what some hetrosexual men think is attractive in other men. Not just heterosexual men. I have to say, as a homosexual male with a huge hero crush on Zelensky... That arms dealer is still a beautiful chunk of daddy meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 02:28 AM
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Nah, warriors are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:02 PM
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I think that we can largely agree here that women and gay men have a far easier time with dating than straight men No, homosexuals have an easier time getting casual sex, not dating. Why do so many straight men use these interchangeably? The reason why gay dudes can easily get partners is because they don't have to be masculine, if they are a bottom. Because bottoms take the woman's role in gay relationships. The competition for tops among gay bottoms is more brutal than anything straight men ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:55 PM
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I think my tastes are pretty diverse but overall I like BIG men. Muscle, fat, height, big dick, big hands, big personality and yes, a big wallet. Also a deep voice, prominent secondary sexual characteristics such as thick body hair and full beards and so on are very desirable. I love men that take up space in the world and men that like to be the center of attention. Any combination of these can be sexually attractive on a dominant man, even just one if he's outstanding in his niche to be honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:34 PM
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I'm neither young nor poor. I just find this subject fascinating; there's some very intelligent men involved in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:21 PM
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What old order is being dismantled? The patriarchal cultures that used to dominate the world are in the final stages of decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:10 PM
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Good luck with that one... Lile I said above, none of this affects me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:04 AM
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OK. 🤷 What you gonna do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:28 AM
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What goes on in your head determines if you're a good or bad person. Then most of us males are bad people. Am I supposed to feel bad? Pray that my fellows don't realize this or someone is literally going to eat you Dahmer style. 👓
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:25 AM
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Or maybe we should judge people on their actions and not their thoughts? 'Cause yeah, if you think thought crime is a thing most males are going to end up on the naughty list. Look, I'm androphilic so I wouldn't give a shit if we split the sexes and put men and women on different continents so you princesses can feel safe. Do what you must, I give no fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:13 AM
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This is a dumb tangent that's not even related to the original topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:17 PM
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You're literally pulling that out of your ass though.🍑
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:05 PM
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The West is literally gearing up for cold war against China. Biden's CHIP acts is basically a declaration to China. American citizens aren't even allowed to work in the industry in China without renouncing their Citizenship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:58 PM
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That's typically not a thing in liberal democracies. You can tell the difference based on which civilizations have closed themselves off from the internet in some way e.g. China, North Korea, Russian, Iran,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:53 PM
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competition in terms of what? In any sense. every developed or developing nation is admiring china and try to replicate what they did China is a clusterfuck inches from collapse and utterly reliant on the American global order. No one with two brain cells is looking to follow in their footsteps right now. The improvement is mostly judged by the net positive outcome in all of society/world. The dominant cultures determines what is good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:41 PM
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Catholicism? I agree. Jokes aside, cultures rise and fall and create winners and losers as they do. There's nothing unusual about the current times in that regard except for the fact that we're living through a transitional period for civilization so we've had a front row seat to show as the old order is being dismantled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:37 PM
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One group restricting the others access to the public square and the ability for them to propagate their ideas is competition. Do you expect your enemies to be nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:20 PM
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That's literally competition bruh. The Catholics gained cultural hegemony by burning dissidents to death. All is fair is love and war.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:18 PM
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Well, it's like smoking; when your target demographic keeps dying you gotta keep creating new customers...➰
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:11 PM
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How do you know what you think is an improvement is in fact an improvement? Competition. Beliefs compete for headspace just as genes compete for survival. Whatever memes, norms and ideals survive are the most fit for that that milieu.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:54 PM
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blue" folks think we're perfectible. It's a fact, at least depending on the means. Our values are primarily determined by genetics and developmental factors and increasingly we're gaining dominion over both. Silicon Valley tech millionaires doing embryo selection for IQ is just the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:51 PM
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That just means women's standards/hyoergamy had run amok. Women have always been attracted to a specific type of man, best illustrated by the millions of stories they've written over the centuries worshipping these men. The only thing that sets the modern world apart is that women no longer feel compelled by society and economic circumstance to settle for bland men that make them feel nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:04 PM
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Self-evident and undeniable. The reason men refuse to accept this is not out of autistic, video-game style stat crunching though. The truth is simply too painful. And the reason women here will deny it is the typical just-world fallacy that informs so much of the female perspective. Plus, self-interest and solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:01 PM
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I have not given a “personal definition” of rape, here. You’re just projecting some weird fantasy you have of me and pretending you can mind read. It’s weird. That was a generic 'you'. Basic misandry isn’t right. It's a fact, depending, as I said, on your definition of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:07 AM
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people talking about rape fantasies are not the same as rapists willing to actually commit rape. It's a spectrum and there's plenty of overlap based on your personal definition of rape. It’s amazing you think it’s solipsism for me to say most men are not rapists— Most men are potential rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:05 AM
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Therefore you can’t say that we’ll always choose the friends with benefits over genuine friendship. Genuine friends can have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:32 PM
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And to modern people such as us, with so little else to be sad about, the emotional toll that takes is unbearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:12 PM
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I like this explanation. Honest and insightful. I'm not female but I used to consume a lot smut written by women, for women. And this is the impression I've always had of female sexuality; women can actually be quite sexually adventurous but as you say, it requires 'context'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:56 PM
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Yes, reactive is a much better word in my opinion. Men put on the show, women are spectators. 🦚
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:49 PM
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How do you know why and how men rape? Because I've talked about the subject extensively with hundreds of people with rape fantasies. You know, the thing you do when you actually want to learn about the motivations of others. Oh and my husband works with rapists. Your solipsism is impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:20 PM
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Learning to hide something is not the same as turning it off. We're still thinking about fucking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:37 PM
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Those of us with social instinct just learn to hide it well. I check out the crotches of 80% of the males that walk by my line of sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:33 PM
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OK Nostradamus. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:22 PM
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Many women also agree with restoring patriarchy You don't have the numbers and more importantly you have no support from people that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:20 PM
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Modern gynocentric society and the associated dating market will do that just fine. Men being lonely and needy is their natural state.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:16 PM
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Women and many men disagree with you and collectively their power and influence eclipses anything men that share your views could ever bring to bear. Also, most modern men wouldn't be satisfied with maritally raping a wife that wasn't into them. Male standards have risen massively over the last few decades
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:11 PM
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The marriage rate was 90% in 1950. A massive chunk of those women weren't attracted to their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:08 PM
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Because rape is about power, don't you know? 🙄 It's insane how little women understand men while constantly bitching about the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:08 PM
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sexual frustration drives men *To be productive to the benefit of women instead of living for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:05 PM
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The human penis is not significantly longer than those of other primates relative to body size, and the human glans is very similar ... I'll have to read the book but just from memory, my extensive knowledge of animal genitalia 😅 makes me doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:19 PM
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Based on comparative morphology with other primates across a range of breeding behaviors (some of which would benefit from this kind of sperm competition and some that wouldn't) human penises weren't found to be particularly specialized in any significant way. The shape of the human penis is actually a bit of a scientific puzzle. It's way too large, the glans is freaky by primate standards. Oh and no baculum. I like the sexual selection and social selection hypotheses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:30 PM
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Your posts are probably the most well informed I've seen in this sub. Brilliant. 💛
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:09 PM
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You said that the steppe barbarians "built nothing and left nothing behind". This is true. They assimilated into Chinese civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:49 PM
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If you take a look back in the past couple of years, what a desperate and painful fight we had with this pandemic MRNA vaccines are miraculous and we're on track to effectively use the technology against cancer and possibly HIV. An enhanced AI (e.g. AI from Westworld) is maybe realisable till the beginning of the 22th century but the biotech is a different story. Look up AlphaFold. Your timelines are... bad. Metalculus has the date for the advent of AGI at 202...8 I think now. The consensus from…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:45 AM
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your wonderful new culture... :D When I think of the near future, within my lifetime, I think of the artificial intelligence revolution, brain computer interfaces, exowombs and sophisticated biotech. Complete morphological freedom. Our world will be unrecognizable by the end of this century, at least in developed economies. Come visit us on r/futurism. The world will be unrecognizable by the end of the century.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:10 AM
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Guys that grew up believing that all they had to do was follow the blueprint set by society and they'd naturally fall into a relationship and marriage with a woman that can't do better or doesn't know better. Those days are gone, which means men are hustling more and more for worse payoffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:23 PM
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China is not patriarchal in the sense that leftover males refer to here. The average American incel would be even more fucked in China. Women have the overwhelming majority of the power in the Chinese sexual market due to the skewed gender ratio. There are no truly patriarchal countries of consequence left, not in that sense, with the possible exception of place such as Afghanistan, if you don't account for relevance. Even Iran and Saudi couldn't hold out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:21 PM
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Russia is utterly irrelevant and China will have to do everything right and get lucky just to survive to the end of this century. There are no contenders to Western supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:50 PM
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The greatest form of romantic love is two independent, powerful and self-contained individuals choosing to sacrifice a bit of their agency and autonomy to build something that's stronger than the sum of its parts. It is rare and beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:21 PM
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It balances out because so many men that used to assume they'd just get a wife by going through the motions are starting to find that it's not so simple anymore and they're going in hard. The amount of attention that women are getting is increasing as low value men become increasingly aware of their fate, as is their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:09 PM
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Women of today are doing things that make them less valuable The balance of attention between the sexes remain the same. If anything, as competition becomes tougher simps are more likely to double down on simping. Women's social power and desirability is higher than it's ever been, exactly because so many men are missing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:01 PM
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Read my original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:52 PM
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Keeping things relevant to the original discussion. Try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:20 PM
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If I wanted to lick boots they'd certainly not be women's. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:15 PM
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Please, feel free. 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:07 PM
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There's a difference between not 'chasing validation' and actively working to enslave 50% of the population. Short of very specific forms of brainwashing and abuse necessary to shape that kind of male, it's not going to happen. l
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:06 PM
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The "1950s" you're referring to were a tiny sliver of human history that was only even possible due to the United States relative strength in the post war period. This might be the stupidest thing I've read today and that's saying something. Like, by what process do you even see something like that happening? Are women going to vote their rights away? They're the majority of the electorate. Are low value men going to cooperate in large enough numbers against the elite males to overthrow the US g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:05 PM
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This sounds like women actually. Women are valuable, men are not. Their sense of self-importance is wholly merited.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:58 PM
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Simping is hardwired into males. It actually takes a lot of cultural pressure and brainwashing to turn men callous enough to enjoy hurting women or disregard their pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:54 PM
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There's many kinds of patriarchy. There's still patriarchal hunter gatherer cultures out there but I doubt you'd want to live in them. A dominant, patriarchal civilization will not be seen again as long as we remain technological unless women buy in; and if they do it's guaranteed that whatever form it takes won't benefit low value men. We're more likely to see old school patriarchy where high value men get most of the females and low value men get nothing and still have to brutally compete for …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:53 PM
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The Chinese have been conquered repeatedly by outsiders So? The cycle of Chinese history is one of outsiders being tamed by superior memes and adapting exactly the same kind of civilization as the one they invaded. Barbarians being civilized by the sheer weight of the cultures and becoming assimilated. Where do you think Hinduism and Greek mythology come from? Peaceful farmers who worshipped fertility idols? Why is this relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:47 PM
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It clearly doesn't work. Men seem to struggle to be able to find a reason to live beyond women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:25 PM
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Go ahead and try You guys are literally marginalizing yourselves, as we speak. So many young men now feel that if they can't get pussy life is not worth living and just give up. I can't see the endgame yet but I'm not bullish on the future of our sex. Because men can't seem to feel anything for other men besides disgust and fear, it makes you extremely easy to divide and conquer. Specially in a age where concepts like honor and brotherhood have been turned into a punchline. Men have no way to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:17 PM
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Men need patriarchy If heterosexual male happiness is predicated on the subjugation of women then the male sex should be allowed to peacefully die out. Or at least we should engineer heterosexuality out of them because clearly it's an antisocial trait. If you can't fulfilment in life solely from the product of your actions and must instead rely on parasitizing others, then you don't deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:35 PM
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I'm talking about selective pressures. Species that do not grow will inevitably get outcompeted by those that do. That applies regardless of your level of technology. Look up Robin Hanson's grabby aliens theory, specifically his math; we could go intergalactic and still be subject to the same forces of scarcity and competition as any other animal. The solar system can comfortably house trillions of souls. It's no coincidence that the only people that seriously advocate degrowth are misanthropes …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:57 PM
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Men seem to innately think of themselves, each other and masculinity in general as a disgusting and corrosive force. Add in a massively overinflated sense of their own value and women no longer willing or having to put up with their shit and we get... this. The future of cishet men is grim. And this is just the begging of the reckoning; reality will continue to slap them in the face with their own inadequacies until we reach a new cultural plateau.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:51 PM
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In nature, if you're not growing you're dying. Balance and stasis in nature are myths and a productive decline is an oxymoron. Right now, technological civilization is at risk and with it the entire genetic lineage of this planet. I believe we will address the fertility crisis within our lifetimes and maintain our supremacy, but must grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:40 PM
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You are literally pulling things out of your anus here. Sedentary farming communities were like hippie communes wallowing in their own shit until they were conquered by bands of outsiders. Points to the Chinese These come directly from those steppe cultures Are you serious? 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:31 PM
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Men are hypocrites like everyone else and just as delusional as women, maybe even more so as they have much less bargaining power. They're caught in this schizophrenic tug o' war between their need to be desired and validated and the knowledge of their own disposability and inherent low value. This leads to scarcity mindset, which leads to mate guarding and jealousy. But the heart (or dick) wants what it wants. In short, just like women men want to have it all. They fantasize about fucking hundr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:28 PM
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Sedentary farmers who were conquered by suave, sly young men on horseback. Who built nothing and left nothing behind. Hence their descendant cultures all being irrelevant today except for what they could steal and appropriate from others. These cultures were patriarchal but they weren't the basis of Abrahamic style patriarchy. Many "aggregations of life" emerged around farming communities, but Civilization doesn't emerge from merely grinding out an existence as a collective. Technological civili…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:50 PM
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Agriculture vs hunting is a good summary of feminine vs masculine general "work styles". And yet virtually every successful civilization today descends from sedentary farmers. The most so, in terms of longevity and numerically, are arguably rice farming civs and the requirements for that have basically turned those populations into homogenized worker drones. Technology doesn't care about what you're good at or what the heart yearns for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:08 PM
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I love that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:12 AM
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I think patriarchal civilization is an example of male cooperation that could only occur after some degree of urbanization. In the ancestral environment (Dunbar's number communities) I think women were a lot more capable of leveraging their aggregate social power to control men and spur on competition. From a sexual antagonism and sexual selection standpoint, it's in women's interest to destabilize men's ability to cooperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:32 AM
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A hundred years is a long time. If this were the 20th century it'd be 1922 right now; think about everything that has happened since. Western civilization has a lot of momentum behind it and not a lot of viable competitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:13 AM
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I think a simpler explanation for the historical prevalence of patriarchies is that men are far more biologically suited to violence Farming* Hunter gatherer cultures were patriarchal in a radically different way that sedentary farmers have been, and not universally so. Before agriculture a tribe's success was much more dependent on the unique characteristics of their immediate environment so there was a lot of room for social diversity. Agriculture created caloric surplus that was hard to compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:11 AM
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We're in the beginning stages of the transition, but the technologies necessary haven't matured yet. Things should reach full swing on the 30s and 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:37 PM
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People are so shortsighted about the future. All the posters here repeating the tired line about how technology can't replace human connections are missing the point. Most won't use technology to replace human connection, they'll use it as social lubrication, as aids and facilitators. And regardless of what people do, there will be massive consequences for society. Couples with low sexual compatibility will be able to be happier together without factors such mismatched libidos, fetishes and jeal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:27 PM
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I'm speaking of humans in aggregate, including prehistory and the ancestral environment. From a gene-centred view, males and females are rivals as much as they are allies. We are ALL what society makes us. To an extent. There's both social and biological factors. But the old nature vs. nurture debate was quietly settled years ago. We are products of our genetics more than anything else. While we can show remarkable diversity and divergence, we are still ultimately constrained by our evolutionary…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:05 PM
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We're the same only inasmuch as we're all following our programming and seeking an advantage, but not in actual behaviour or fundamental nature. Women are more monolithic while men are diverse psychologically, cognitively. Men are also less agreeable, more prone to risk-taking, less inhibited and more aggressive... Sex is a fundamental value for males in a way that's outside the scope of female understanding. If we split up males and females into different societies, assuming access to reproduct…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:32 PM
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How Males are r-selectors and females are K-selectors, it's the foundation of sexual antagonism. The sexes are at odds reproductively even as they cooperate but, absent the external pressure that forces them to, self-interest will dominate leading to social divergence. We're seeing this corroborated through the current crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:21 PM
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Men and women are fundamentally different though. The sexes are dimorphic enough that one could argue there's more difference between them than between some closely related species in terms of behaviour and preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:56 PM
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All is fair in love and war, if you can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:38 PM
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Literally every known metric we have about human sexual behavior shows a massive gap between males and females in every possible sphere, good bad and neutral. It is in male nature to do horrific and miraculous things. Any random outlier from any human population is overwhelmingly likely to be male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:19 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:13 PM
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I wonder how much of this, '' men need sex,'' ''men want sex more than anything else,'' and my favorite, '' men kill for sex,'' is just nothing more than posturing and an attempt to come across as more masculine. You don't actually understand men at all. I used those examples of what the male sex drive can do to motivate certain types of men. Because the male sex drive is an excellent motivator. What you are missing from that is that many men aren't actually warriors or conquerors by nature. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:23 PM
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I don't know about other males but masturbation and sex don't feel similarly satiating. Masturbation gets rid of the pressure, the physical discomfort and mental fog but it doesn't get your mind off hunter mode. I can jerk off five times a day and might still be checking out guys looking for a sexual opportunity. If I've had actual dick I don't think about men as much and kinda ride the afterglow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:06 PM
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Ok first off sperm reabsorption is actually psychological fact. Yes it is. Stop trying to 'gotcha' me and think about what I said. Males have organs that swell up and become tender when they get horned up and don't cum. You're physically incapable from experiencing what we experience. All you can do is listen and believe. I'm not doing a good job of understanding? So do most men strive to understand female sex drive? I don't know. I don't care. I'm not attracted to women and don't care about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:00 PM
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100% true. It varies from man to man but in most guys I've been with you can definitely tell the difference in weight and size of the testicles when a guy hasn't cum for a while. Though it can take a few sessions to realize what his 'normal' is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:54 PM
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Your body reabsorbs sperm that is not ejaculated. Stop femsplaining for a second and try to think about how it would feel for men. These are literally body parts you do not posses but I think you can make some correlation to having random body parts swell and become tender... I'm trying to convey the point that you're fundamentally incapable of understanding what it feels like to be a male, have male genitals or have a male sexual response. The only think you can do is listen to the male experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:42 PM
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The male sex drive feels like building pressure, it doesn't diminish and you can't sleep it off. The volume of the testicles perceptibly increase when a man is pent up and you can literally feel it. From the inside and outside, physically, the fullness and weight. I would compare the feeling to one of addictive withdrawal, almost. A craving that lowers inhibitions, reorders priorities and impairs cognition. It can become all you can think about; your senses become hyper aware to arousal queues s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:20 PM
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I honestly don't think females are capable of understanding the male sex drive; it's like trying to explain the color blue to a blind person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:06 PM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:18 PM
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*grabs popcorn*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:00 AM
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If you genuinely want to have a lot of casual sex then go for it, assuming consenting women. But most men... don't. I had to work through that myself Thing is, it often takes experience to realize something's not for you. Or at least the chance to get it out of your system if it is. And this is not something most straight guys get so they build so much of their identity around these fantasy lives where sex isn't also messy, awkward, scary, painful and degrading as it often can be in real life. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:32 PM
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Sure, but there's no parity between males and females. Men start out with a massive disadvantage in the market that they have to overcome. Many will fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:59 PM
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I didn't say it was their fault, I said they were a mess. As in, they're not coping very well with reality and giving up on life. Women might have crazy high expectations but at least they seem capable of living with the consequences of their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:07 PM
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What advice would you give men to help them shed these concerns? Do whatever it takes to want it less, then whether you succeed or fail you'll be OK in the long term. I know from personal experience it's easier said than done but it's worth it. Men's biggest weakness is that they want women more than women want men. It's hard to work around our fundamental drives. There's also the problem that it's easier to give something up when you've had enough of it to realize it's not worth it. Too many me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:37 PM
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I want state subsidized dick so I don't have to deal with Grindr. Sorry OP, you're a gay sex toy under California law now. If you travel within state boundaries you'll be arrested and taken to the stud ranch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:32 PM
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Women that clearly have better options Women that are very sexually responsive, but just for them Men are really bad at gauging their own value. Which is funny considering how often guys whine on here about women's standard's being too high. Modern guys are just a mess. The obsession with being actively desired by women runs contrary to their mate-guarding neuroses against sexual women. I would say men's fantasy of a sexually proactice, insatiable woman that's only into them is utter fantasy. Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:26 PM
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Unwillingness of a person to date a men do not make him undatable. That's exactly what it means. I don't see how else it could be: our value in the sexual market is determined by who's paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:53 PM
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For men, either they think they deserve better than what they can pull or they just sit around with their thumbs up their ass waiting for the universe to rearrange itself to their expectations of human nature. Plus a good chunk that rightly deserves to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:31 PM
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Some, maybe many, men are undatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:27 PM
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There's just something electric about big men. Very few traits can project that sense of power and strength. It's a similar but much stronger, primal response as one might experience seeing a man in uniform and such. It's a quality that's pretty universally desired by anyone with the typical androphilic sexuality i.e. attraction to dominant men. And that's most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:22 PM
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Nope. Tall me are just inherently desirable by pretty much anyone attracted to masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:13 PM
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It's literally a dating app with AI matchmaking no one's forcing you to do anything. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:51 PM
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This is a century of transition. A lot of things will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:55 AM
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It's not a small lie. Men subjugated women to their delusions to sell this lie, to their own benefit. It was evil. Death and suffering is normal in nature, but wanting to avoid death and suffering is also normal. Not at the expense of others. There's no solutions to this problem and we're not going back to the past so men will have to find a way to exist in this world like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:34 AM
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Look, we all have a sob story. I've had to claw and scrounge for my happiness, this world gave me nothing. I learned to fight or I would have died. They will too. I know that sounds cruel but OP asked for tough love. The above is what I wish someone would have told me. Fight, kiddos.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:27 AM
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I grew up being told I was an abomination destined for hell. Still pay taxes. They'll survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:35 AM
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Well, does it actually bring you any peace to know the truth? Do you wish your parents had sat you down when you hit puberty and handed you a fleshlight; "this is all you'll ever fuck son." Very few of the men that post here in your situation seem very peaceful in spite of all these truth pills...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:47 PM
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and we would appreciate it if we were told the hard truths instead I'm going to call bullshit on this one. Men have literally spent hundreds of years telling themselves that women are these pure, innocent beings that are disgusted by sex just so they don't have to wonder why their wives are never in the mood. They went as far as trying to gaslight women into believing it too. It was easier for men to fabricate a whole damn new reality than accept that fact that it's normal for males in thousands…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:05 PM
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The trend that shows less people (men and women) are having sex these days when compared to gen X? Given the fact we're hanging out less and less in person combined with the huge asterisk that is COVID, I'm not sure it's pointing to the problem you think it is... Or maybe women are just having as much sex as they want to be having, with the men they're attracted to. And this will mean both less sex in general and no sex or only transactional sex for a plurality of the male population. It doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:57 PM
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I didn't realize we disagreed in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:44 PM
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That's what these men are already doing, it's not exactly new. Power to them, I did exactly the same thing when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:41 PM
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Looks at the vast majority of men getting laid and entering into relationships "Hey Siri, what are trends..." 📈 Do you actually think that figure has stabilized? Imagine actually believing that gender relations today are in a healthy spot and headed towards a bright future. Nice attempt to make things personal though. Nothing you are saying could possibly apply to me; you know nothing about my personal circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:37 PM
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Supply and demand. There's little the average man can realistically do to raise his value that much so mostly they're in the way. Most men will never have 'options'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:34 PM
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Why would I care about what you think of women? Most women in america are fat and unkempt and not even worth a shag. Many, maybe most, men anywhere in the world are not good enough to secure exclusive long term access to a woman in a free market. I'll only be proven right the more women gain independence and we can observe in real time as they refuse commitment when they no longer have any use for these men's resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:25 PM
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As far as your opinion on men, it's nowhere near the reality out there, and thankfully, never will be. Looks at the 50% increase in sexless men in 20 years There's nothing but bitterness and resentment on that path so I'm not sure why you'd want to travel down it, but good luck... Whatever you think you know about me chances are your assumptions are wrong. I've managed to make a pretty sweet life for myself while being realistic about my prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:23 PM
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I have no bias against men, in fact I like them more than most. Doesn't invalidate the fact that most men just aren't worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:03 PM
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Obviously so. In order to be able to make any sort of demand during a negotiation you must have some leverage. Most men are in no position to ask for anything; their choices are to take what they can get or go without.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:02 PM
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The whole n-count back and forth in this sub makes me think men still need to fall further; a lot of them have seemingly yet to realize just how little value they actually bring to the table and just how little their desires matter. But I get the feeling that women will continue to show them. Maybe at some point they'll finally get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:59 PM
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Women don't have to be interesting, they've got pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:50 PM
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It's sarcasm. She's literally mocking you. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:14 PM
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I think porn and hook up culture makes it much harder for the average guy to ignore how much greener the grass could be. So many -pilled men are constantly comparing themselves to anyone that's having better, easier sex than them. If you think about it our culture was kinda set up to hide the reality of human desire from both men and women so we could all pretend that it was normal. The current situation is reality poking its head in and men haven't figured out how to live with it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:59 PM
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Uh huh... 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:40 PM
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There are entire civilizations with billions of people that have not produced many males of quality up to female standards for thousands of years. It's so much more complicated than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:21 PM
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Social media is huge for the exponential decay in this too So another point is that men in the past had more of what women biologically want compared to that percentile of men today Nah. Men of the past thought they could fake it, women have always known.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:44 PM
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I've already presented my argument, address that or go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:48 PM
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Previous generations of men had just as many undesirables. Women just didn't have as many choices and had to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:23 PM
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They'll probably do that, yes. Will men stop whining about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:55 PM
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I agree with you about the significance of initiation ceremonies. But you need to understand that some cultures have not had those ceremonies for thousands of years; look at highly successful rice farming civilizations like the Chinese and their conceptualizations of masculinity. Those cultural assumptions and labor/economic incentives, over time, change the playing field and diminish the physical masculinity of the men. Female choice becomes irrelevant because when arranged marriages based on f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:07 PM
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Great post. Hopefully it won't fall on deaf ears. And it has little to do with their biology and more to do with the quality of men who are out there for them to pick from. But I think this one merits a bit more discussion. This goes much deeper than just men failing to step up socially. Part of the reason we have so many low quality men that women aren't attracted to is because we've spent thousands of years forcing women to marry unattractive guys and actively working against sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:30 PM
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They won't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:25 PM
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It’s a shitstorm of a situation so the only options are to either make women be less sexually liberated or ask women to create a new standard to assess potential mates Or we do nothing and see where it goes. Pretty sure we're going to pick that one. There's no ultimatum here. Women don't have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:22 PM
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You're simply wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:06 PM
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What exactly is being measured here? The math is beyond me. On the other hand, I know what matrilocal and patrilocal means and I'm struggling to find the relevance. Can you elaborate on this paper?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:21 AM
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Under promiscuous mating rules, females are typically solely responsible for child rearing. Also is there even a need to keep the population growing? Everything we have depends on a productive work force paying into it. We might not need to grow but we definitely need to at least maintain what we have. If technological civilization collapses women may have the most to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:08 PM
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Men do so, so much more in the service of collective civilization than pay taxes. If you take your pussy blinders off for a single second maybe you can try and read some examples in my previous replies above. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:56 PM
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Once again, you're conflating long term pair bonding with the nuclear family. For the overwhelming majority of human history, people loved in small clans comprised mostly relatives and employing a diverse range of mating strategies. It's literally named after the era that birthed it. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:29 PM
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If people put this much thought into trying to find ways to excuse men's failures and vices, they would find them. Only women get the benefit of the doubt. I've already addressed the parallels to reproduction as a social responsibility, compared to other duties that women can do, but do not. Basically, only women can create kids so it's reasonable to expect them to step up to literally keep our society alive. Even if it means their life is less pleasant for it and even if no one helps. We ask th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:32 PM
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Women pay taxes just like men Read what I wrote again. Then analyze your seemingly instinctive reaction to come to women's defense. There's no similar instinct in men's favor, from women or other men. They aren’t having children because the price of childcare is a daily fortune and men haven’t stepped up in regards to being a good parents to help I literally gave a list of some of the ways women continue to fail to step up. Only one sex can get pregnant, ultimately the responsibility to fulfill …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:59 PM
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Women as a class are not actually very good citizens, in terms of social output. They are net tax receivers, aren't having enough children to maintain technological civilization and they still contribute comparatively little to defense, security, infrastructure or scientific progress. Typically when anyone points this out gynephiles will blame sexism in general and often men specifically for women's failures. When boys and men do badly, we seek to find ways to hold them personally responsible. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:42 PM
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You're confusing pair bonding with nuclear family. The nuclear family is one man, one woman and their children living independently. Humans have never lived like that until basically post-war America. As to mating strategies, humans in the ancestral environment mating was much less prescribed and varied from clan to clan. Polygyny at the top, temporary and long-term monogamish arrangements in the middle and polyandry and single males at the bottom. A lot more diverse than anything we had after a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:32 PM
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Blame society. It's what we do when women fail to measure up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:46 PM
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Patriarchy exists. Or did. Patriarchy was a concerted effort by powerful males to leverage their labor advantage at a critical time in order to pacify other men, at the expense of women. A lot of men that got access to wives in the last few thousand years should have died and their genetic line with them. They're utterly unfit. Look at civilizations like the Chinese and Indians where there's very little mate selection going on. The result are weak, unattractive males and frigid, hypergamous fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:46 PM
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Thankfully men can rarely cooperate. Powerful men would rather kill you than hurt women, because they feel empathy for females and nothing for other males.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:35 PM
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You're missing the point. The nuclear family was better than atomized individualism but much worse than the extended family model.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:33 PM
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Brilliant response. The nuclear family was a mistake. Like trying to balance a stool on two legs, having the stability and potential future of the entire line dependent on the well being and labor of just two people was never going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:31 PM
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Gay men have a different sexuality How so? Men need to ensure paternity. Paternity anxiety, like almost everything else in humans, is flexible. Before ubiquitous patrilineal inheritance and land ownership there was a lot more cultural diversity in mating strategies that got outcompeted. But genetically we're still roughly the same. Harem species like gorillas will kill any unrelated juveniles upon taking control of a troop, humans males will happily bond and raise other men's children. Plenty of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:13 PM
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Yes. Mate guarding to this extent is not intrinsic to male sexuality or we'd see comparable levels among gay men. Sex is like water, you only get this anxious about it when you don't have it. The average straight man is so chronically starved for sexual validation that it becomes pathological.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:52 PM
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There are multiple ways for a man to be bisexual and not all of them are equally attractive to every person. A lot of vanilla women are extremely put off by the image of their big manly husbands with a dick in their mouth and lose respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:44 PM
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These countries are cultural, technological and geopolitical dead ends with no future. Look at the fertility rates of any country actually trying to remain relevant; they're two decades away from the same demographic crisis as every other industrialized nation with no path forward. They've got most of our problems with none of our advantages. When I say patriarchy is dead I mean it is irrelevant. There are still hunter gatherers put there; I don't mean they're all going to disappear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:21 PM
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Meanwhile, you have the most greatest, prestigious and worldwide known event taking place in Qatar, which is perhaps the most mysoginistic place in the planet, and nobody bats an eye. Absolutely not. The world cup has been a clusterfuck that's severely damaged the image of the Western organizations involved and will not be repeated any time soon. This is not the "fall of Patriarchy", this is just a small, helpless country coming to it's end under western superpower influence. You're right, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:46 PM
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It's alot easier to have an open relationship when you can still get as much attention from others as you want even as an average guy. Yeah, is true cishet men don't have a comparable sexual outlet. Do you think technology could be used to bridge this gap for men somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:27 PM
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But what if things were more equal? What if she's not someone he's necessarily attracted to but is otherwise an attentive, loyal partner? It's fairly common in the queer community for sexually incompatible people to pair up for marriage, children or just to have a smiling face waiting for you at home. Life's hard, we're not meant to go at it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:17 PM
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Tall white men are hot. Especially the bearded ones. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:12 PM
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It's not hard to accept, most of us have accepted it, but that doesn't mean we're happy and willing to commit to women who make us work for something they gave to someone else for free. What about companionship, affection, partnership? Modern men are more socially isolated than they've probably ever been. One can be happy without sex but not without human connection and touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:10 PM
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If this is true will the tradcons in the manosphere finally realize that patriarchy is dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:05 PM
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Virtual reality porn Sex bots Polyamory I guess we could also bring back fertility cults like in the old days where temple priestesses and catamites would bless supplicants through sex. Imagine how faithful men would be if Sunday service came with complimentary BJs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:55 PM
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The issue then becomes that some men will get sex without committing, which will leave the other men disgruntled that they had to offer something in return for sex from their partners, whereas other men got it without much effort But why is this so hard for some men to accept? It's no different from wealth. Some are privileged and desirable and get to have the things they dream about. The rest of us have to fight, beg and steal for every scrap. We take what we can get and find our happiness ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:36 PM
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I guess my point is , if modern men are "entitled" for expecting better outcomes than what nature would have intended cant the same also be said of modern women? Can you elaborate? Also I though even in the past polygamy was more the norm? For most of recorded history yes, but the past is a long time. Before we urbanized we mostly used to live in small clans among relatives. The top dogs might have had a few wives, some would pair up for a season or for life, some women would have multiple husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 01:53 AM
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True! 😈 Nature is vulgar and perverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 11:01 PM
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In the ancestral environment women pulled their own weight and the sexes were utterly reliant on each other. But even then, there wasn't reproductive parity. It wasn't until agriculture that men were able to leverage their productivity to subjugate women. In the long span of our evolutionary history the few thousand years of patriarchal civilization are a blip.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:00 PM
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That's because you're not good looking. Literally not into females but OK. 🤣 If you were, you would knew women do get jealous and insecure about your past and women who could potentially "steal you away" from them. Doesn't mean it's sexually motivated. By definition women only compete for high value men, as I've already said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:51 PM
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When would it have been normal for a guy to be exclusive/devoted to one woman whom he is sharing with other men?? Remember the cultures that are left today are the ones that managed to endure thousands of years of patriarchal encroachment. Polyandry is very rare today, but not unheard of. I believe that in the past civilization-wide mate selection strategies like we see today would have been rare. Instead, mating behavior would be adapted to specific niches. You can still see remnants of these c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:52 PM
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If i'm understanding you correctly, most people will end up single for the rest of their lives? We don't know yet. I can say though that humans have never just accepted scarcity. I believe men will engineer away sexual scarcity as they've done every other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:43 PM
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You could also just say you care about her more than most men will Men will say a lot of things to get what they want. It doesn't change the underlying reality. It's expected competitors are going to claim that they're the best choice and everyone else are sociopathic fuckboys. Plus it's not exclusive to men - mate guarding goes both ways. Humans are too similar for any behavior to be exclusive to any group. Both sexes can exhibit scarcity-driven mate guarding but they don't have the same origin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:34 PM
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There are more women than men in the world, so in theory, every man can win. A lot of these men aren't desirable enough to even be in the running. The only way they ever got anything was because our economies and cultures made women reliant on them to survive. The modern expectation that an average man should have exclusive access to a fertile female was never sustainable; for much of our history he'd either share her with his brothers if he was lucky. Unlucky ones fucked farm animals or each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:15 PM
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It's not illogical but modern men are outrageously entitled. There's a difference between wanting something and the expectation that you should actually get it. It's rational for males to desire these things but thinking that this is something they deserve by virtue of merely existing is completely out of step with reality. The natural state of human relations is that desirable males should have access to many females vying for his attention. Mediocre men will share females and the left over guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:58 PM
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Insecurity goes both ways Sure, women compete as well but not as brutally as men do. Females compete for access to high quality men, males compete for access to women full stop. Females also don't have to contend with paternity anxiety. If human females were more promiscuous males would adapt through strategies like sperm competition and communal parenting and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:46 PM
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I think all these posts about what men want or don't want miss the plot. Everyone knows what men want and why, they've been shouting it from the rooftops for hundreds of years and calling it their birthright. It's women's preferences that have been gaslighted and suppressed. Unlike women, men need little discovering the truth of their nature. What they seem to be struggling with is accepting that there are winners and losers in the mating game. As is the case everywhere else men will inevitably …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:26 PM
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Most promiscuous people aren't exploring but having basic sex with lots of people because they only really try to get themselves off. Not true at all in my experience. More experience = better sex as long as the participants are compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:05 PM
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Less experience so she's "purer". i.e. the anxiety that if she ever tastes that artisanal chorizo she might not want you little canned Vienna sausage. Mid males have to live with the knowledge that a better man could take her away at any minute or at least use her up behind his back and send her home with some extra cream filling. A free and open sexual market is an average man's nightmare. They don't want to compete as they would under natural rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:31 PM
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Nothing you think matters I'm old and happily married; no dog in this fight. I didn't force you to read my posts and don't care if you take my advice to heart. Die raging I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:37 PM
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Thats a clear condradiction to what you said earlier. Individual men can be valuable but as a class men simply aren't. Not the way women are valuable. Either they learn from their mistakes or they stop complaining Their 'mistake' here is expecting commitment from the few high value men, not rejecting low value men. That's a wise choice. What part of 'people don't have to do what you want because you stomp your feet and cry' don't you understand? Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:29 PM
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And yet women end up in relationships with them. With men that have managed to breach that threshold where the value they bring to her life makes it worthwhile. They could stop complaining about men being worthless because their latest fuckboy pumped and dumped them. They won't. They don't have to do anything you want because you don't exist to them and nothing you think matters. You're just going to have to learn to accept your place in this world as we all must. They might not want to get pump…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:14 PM
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If they're getting what they want and avoiding what they don't want, their standards are valid and serve their function. Women are worth what men be paying'. And men are just worthless 'cause no one buying that shit. Like, what would women even be getting here by dropping their standards? Decades of shitty monogamous sex with men they're not into? Wow, what a prize, they're missing out for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:52 PM
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Physically, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:16 PM
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So I can't help you get sex without paying. If you aren't having it already after a certain age your problems are possibly insurmountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:17 PM
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Sorry, I have no idea. If I were into chicks I'd probably be an incel. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:14 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:00 PM
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"your league is who you can attract, sweety" Your league is what you can get, sweaty... Like, imagine thinking otherwise. If you're selling something, you can ask for whatever price you want; its actual value is ultimately determined by who's buying—or not. Dick has negative value. You're not so much selling it as begging someone, anyone, to take it off your hands. Any product that people are actually insulted when you try and give it away is less than worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:21 PM
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What's the point? The guys currently getting sex will keep getting it, gelded or not. And the ones not getting it... Edit: It just seems really base for the sex with all the reproductive power to demand even more concessions from the sex with none. I can't see this as anything but an attempt to humiliate and emasculate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:28 PM
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Men are the most diverse sex in every other sphere, I doubt it's any different here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:17 PM
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Not true, women do not want to be fertilized by any sperm. Not relevant. The fact that they could be is enough to influence the market; under those dire circumstances females would mate with the one remaining male, if there's even a choice. because men still have to compensate for mating by producing equivalent value. There's a difference between practical value and social value. It doesn't matter whether society would collapse without garbage men, that practical value doesn't translate to respe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:40 PM
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There's a difference between the men I find beautiful and the men I find arousing. There's lots of overlap, mind you, but also plenty of disconnects. I've had blistering hot sex with ugly men that have left me desperate for more and make me respect and appreciate the guys. In my understanding, female sexuality is more holistic. By that I mean that women need every relevant characteristic to be above a certain threshold. They're more concerned with avoiding glaring issues than maximizing any one …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:32 PM
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Sure, but often that dick will be more valuable as women often only value a few top men. Sperm is sperm in a pinch. You're missing the point: female reproduction is by far the biggest population bottleneck, which makes women the single most important factor in our collective survival. Sure, but that money $200, is valuable for the woman for the exchange, so men have an equivalent value, just not on the context of genitalia. Women's value is inherent, men's value is based on his ability to produc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:57 PM
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I think male sexuality is beautiful. Women are just frigid and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:47 PM
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The body of your post contradicts the stated premise. You claim men aren't less valuable then proceed to list the reasons why they are. Reasons females are more valuable: 1 dick and a hundred cunts can repopulate a village, 1 cunt and a hundred dicks is a collapse scenario An hour of mediocre pussy costs around $200, dick is so worthless and disgusting to so many that you literally can't give it away People don't feel true empathy for the male sex. They can only abstract males as part of a valua…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:35 PM
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This is fallout from male disposability/empathy gap. People will pay lip service to concepts like equality and universal compassion but they don't really feel those things towards males. No one cares if men suffer or die as long as they do it quietly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:13 PM
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Women in the past had a lot of economic and social pressures pushing them to settle with subpar men. They might not have necessarily chosen these if they had their own money and didn't have to deal with the social backlash. You can't assume that women's actions in the past reflect their preferences because they made those choices in a much more desperate and restrictive environment than what exists today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:19 PM
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It is staggering to me that your entire knowledge of the subject comes from an article It does not, but I doubt you'd read anything else I post in good faith. Also, I never said we already had all the answers. In fact, I've explicitly said several times that it warrants further research. You should listen to me when I say date a woman that finds you attractive and you'll know for sure their testosterone has fuck all to do with being able to fuck that much. I'm married and not into women, but tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:26 PM
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This corroborates my personal understanding on the impacts of testosterone, estradiol and progesterone on female sex drive, as does everything else I can find. It's far from clearcut how the different hormones interact, at least to me, but existing research clearly shows it is a valid avenue for further study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:07 PM
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I think people just have an automatic, negative response to some ideas and want to communicate that discomfort but lack the arguments to justify their reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:32 PM
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Can you substantiate that please? As far as I'm aware testosterone serves the same function in females as it does in males in respect to libido, though progesterone does supposedly play a role as well. It's also irrelevant. My argument was always that modifying female preferences was the moral and practical thing to do; I don't care how we actually do this. It'd just be convenient if testosterone has the same impact on cis women as it does for trans men, who do report massive increases in libido…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:24 PM
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points to trans men It actually could be that simple. Or it might not; it's still worth researching.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:10 PM
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I believe this exchange has run its course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:03 PM
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I never claimed to know whether hormone replacement therapy alone might do the trick. Since the brain and body masculinize at different stages I expect there might be some leeway to engineer there. If not, well there's always genetic tinkering to the germline. We have the tools for sophisticated modification, we just need effective delivery and deeper knowledge of the genome itself. Your experiences as a supposedly high value male are irrelevant here; the social benefits of equalizing mating str…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:49 PM
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I'm obviously speaking at the population level and referring specifically to human females' low inherent promiscuity. With the massive resource surplus we enjoy, we should be moderating towards the r-selected end of the sociosexual spectrum. Instead we're swinging hard towards harem mating, the most antisocial of all mating strategies, with little counterbalance. Sorry about your mangled dick though, however irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:38 PM
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Our reproductive window is too short. It also coincides with the years when young women are at their most productive, physically healthy and capable of learning i.e. the time when women's choices will most impact the course of their lives. Our current fertility crisis wouldn't be an issue if women could have healthy kids at 50 with little intervention. It's good for society for people to marry older and defer life-altering decisions like reproduction for optimal timing. We should also probably l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:02 PM
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Agreed 100%. Most of our social validation and affection should come from friends and family. The modern expectation that a girlfriend or wife should be the only human connection a man has is insane. And both men and women feed into this. I've seen both sexes purposely isolate their significant other from friends. Also, the acceptable range of expression for a heterosexual male just keeps shrinking. You hear zoomer boys talking and literally everything is 'gay'. Male friendships are no longer de…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:46 PM
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I wouldn't fuck with gender ratios but if I was supreme overlord of humanity I'd definitely look into increasing female libido and fixing human reproduction. Those two things create by far the most conflict between the sexes. There's biological reasons why females are less horny than men but they're no longer relevant for modern humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:42 PM
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I like both and I think if most men had the option, they'd want both as well. Me and my husband have married couple sex for intimacy and bonding and we bring in a third occasionally to spice things up. We find adding another dick to the mix supercharges our libido for days after the hook up and it makes sex between us more exciting and fulfilling. The fact that most males with normal typical sexuality crave variety has never been a secret and it shouldn't be controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:17 PM
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The future therefore will be conservative Anyone so confident that they can predict the future actually has nothing of value to say. Specially when they write something like this. You have absolutely no idea what the world will look like in 50 years. It's 2022, literally the roaring 20s. We still have the 30s, 40s, 50s and so on ahead, with comparable technological and social progress. You should read more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 01:48 AM
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You're assuming hostility and bias when in reality these perspectives are merely a reflection of our intrinsic biological nature. Dicks are simply worthless to everyone but gay men. Only homosexual males, out of every demographic and human intersectionality, are androphiles---lovers of men. It doesn't mean everyone else actively hates males, masculinity or the male form. They just... don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:05 PM
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Hetwomen love to trauma-bond based on the shitty sex they're having w men. Yeah, what's up with this? Every. single. time. If there's no straight guy around the conversation will inevitably take a turn to talking about male significant other penis size, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation or some other complaint. I don't understand why this is something girls feel they need to confess to me. I'm sorry your guy's hairy lump is malfunctioning but unless you want me to fluff him there's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:11 PM
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This right here, no amount of ideology can do away with the labor requirements of an agricultural society. Only technology can do that. Women's liberation is a byproduct of the industrial revolution. Always pissed me off how so many women are back-to-nature, anti-tech hippy types.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:50 PM
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Absolutely. I've always dated men older than myself and I've noticed after the 40s most are pretty much fossilized; utterly incapable of change. They expect you to fit into their lives with minor compromise on their part. My husband's been the exception and part of the reason I'm with him. He's 12 years older but patient and flexible even though I can be annoying sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:00 PM
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That's the mother of all non sequiturs. You're still not understanding what I'm trying to convey so I think this is a good spot to end this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:07 PM
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many other weaker groups would have been wiped out without government Small religious cults actually get erased all the time, often by the state. The were only a few thousand Amish at the beginning; they owe their prosperity to American stability and kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:42 PM
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Also it's possible that they have guns to defend themselves, like many farmers do. Firstly, the Amish are pacifists. If they weren't, the inevitable sectarian conflict would have wiped them out a long time ago. Look at the persecution against the Jews as an example. The only way the Amish way of life can exist is in the shadow of a powerful state with the power to maintain the rule of law and the economic and technological might to remain competitive at the civilization level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:43 AM
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Life is not mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 05:37 AM
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I thought they grow all of their own food and live off the grid. Why don't outlaws steal their resources, rape their women or kill their sons? I've even seen them shopping, dining out and going to amusement parks so they do support mainstream economy I revise what I said above. Not parasites then, pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:53 AM
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A few males are more powerful than any one woman. But they are, as you said, extremely rare. Women, collectively, wield a power that outshines the sun and unlike men they cooperate well in the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:45 AM
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No. Adapt or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:42 AM
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They rely on the institutions of the United States for protection and give nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:40 AM
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We pick up closeted bisexual dudes to fuck all the time while, I presume, their loyal, loving wives wait for them at home. Guys will literally drop their kids off at school then drop by the gloryhole for a drive by blow. Can't say I've ever felt any guilt about it. This is the reality of male sexuality that has always and will always exist. That's not an excuse, mind you. I don't feel compelled to apologize for my desires. There's few hangups that a fat dick to the face won't wash away in my exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:43 AM
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Too early to tell but I no longer believe that the future of humanity will be one of male/female pair bonding as the main reproductive strategy. I think, absent social and biological pressure, the sexes will naturally and individually come to the conclusion that they'd rather do their own thing and simply drift away with no hard feelings. Ideally. It could also turn into a hostile and contentious divorce if men refuse to come to terms with not being sexually desired. Those saying that people tod…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:26 AM
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Grok the caveman didn’t simp for pussy, he just bashed the women over the head with his club and dragged them back to his cave Grok might have done that; he might have even had multiple female orbiters depending on his status. His cousin Grog on the other hand shared a single female with his three brothers. But loser Greg just fucked his hand and his lineage died with him. High status males don't have to simp, by definition. They also typically don't have to force females.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:20 AM
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It's the simple truth. In nature, you're either growing or dying. over 2.1, at current mortality, we grow. Under 2.1 we collapse. This is not negotiable or subject to feelings and ideology. It's irrefutable math. Point is, birth rates are what they are for a reason and a trend is typically not forever anyway. We've never had near universal below replacement fertility before and have no reason to believe it will stabilize. Countries like South Korea, at below below 1 fertility, are already doomed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:08 PM
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You need 2.1 children per woman. Anything lower society collapses. It's not really negotiable unless we cure aging or lengthen women's reproductive window.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:01 PM
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I think got pulled into it 'cause I'm gay and have the same natural tendency for simping for guys that straight guys do for women. I drifted away because I realized it was pointless and didn't really have anything to do with my life. And the concern wasn't reciprocal; I don't believe modern Western men are capable of caring for other men. The only thing they care about is pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:47 PM
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No I think you're right about that too. It's pussy-starved mid men that hate other men and see them as enemies/competitors. HVM can afford to be gracious since LMV aren't a threat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:20 PM
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I don't disagree either. Still thinking about it. It's a good post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:58 PM
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Find someone loyal who adds value to your life and settle. Get all that sex out of your system and settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:22 PM
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If I understand correctly, OP is saying that it is low value men, not high value, that have destroyed male brotherhood in an attempt to simp and white knight. I'm not sure I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:19 PM
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It's a fact. Men, at least the low value ones, have no power. The discrepancy in SMV between men and women guarantees female social dominance in an free market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:10 PM
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The original question was about doing something to reverse declining birthrates, I’m simply advocating to do nothing. I don't want to die. I don't want to have to kill my old relatives. I don't want humanity to go extinct at the mercy of nature. I don't want our infrastrcuture, social services and social system to collapse. You have to be either extremely sociopathic, misanthropic or ignorant to wish for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:55 PM
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As I said, what men think or believe is irrelevant. Only women's feelings matter and they don't look back to patriarchy with fondness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:50 PM
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Do they have patriarchy? They sure as fuck have tried to keep it alive. Saudi Arabia literally didn't let women drive until what, 5 years ago? Look at Iran, they're raping and executing teenage girls and they're still barely above replacement. A 2.1 fertility rate is not stable; Iran's two decades away from inevitably dipping below replacement. Your actual model demographics, like the Amish, are utterly incapable of self-sufficiency. As I said, they're parasites that we allow to exist at worst, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:28 PM
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I'm a recovering MRA, so I would say I'm still more sympathetic to men than the average person. But guys on this board, and men in general, just aren't very likeable or easy to defend. Some of the shit they come up with...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:15 PM
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We're not going back to forced monogamy. The only people that want it are male losers and they're invisible to society. They always had that choice Literally everything about patriarchal culture was designed to punish women for exercising their agency and to sublimate male sexuality into productivity. Women have no interest in that deal anymore. They don't need it. What leftoever men want or need is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:13 PM
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The answer is pretty obvious: exowombs. The technology is coming along well, we should have it before the end of the century. Grow babies in pods and raise them communally. Sooner or later we're going to have to industrialize the process of reproduction; what we're doing currently is like trying to feed billions of people by hunting and gathering. The pressure on 50% of the population to sacrifice their most productive years to take advantage of a cruelly short reproductive window was always unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:10 PM
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There's nothing about demographic collapse that is good. Nothing. It would kill hundreds of millions of people, force us to Euthanize old people, force us to use even dirtier, easier to access energy like coal... It'd also put us on a path for the entire of Earth's biopsphere being sterilized by the sun, so you're not even protecting anything in the long term. Environmentalists are some of the most retarded people on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:06 PM
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But ugly women clearly don't have to be with ugly men. They'd rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:57 PM
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It's not raping women You want to steal their agency i.e. enslavement. If women actually wanted to be having children or marrying ugly men, they'd be doing it right now. They don't. When given the choice women have done everything in their power to be able to support themselves without having to rely on men. Women fear men's shackles more than they love children, family or basically anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:55 PM
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That's retarded. Do you think once society collapses and people are forced to dig out every bit of accessible coal it's going to improve things?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:52 PM
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That's the truth. Look at the Amish, Islam, and Orthodox Jews. Wrong. The industrialized Islamic world is undergoing the same fertility crisis and every other developed nation. Technology, not religion, is the difference. In order to maintain traditional birth rates, you have to abandon technology and turn yourself into pets or parasites of advanced patrons. The Amish and orthodox Jews couldn't exist as they are without protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:50 PM
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But with the seemingly-limitless growth of simping Simping is the natural state of men. The more women continue refuse to fuck low value men, and they will, the more simping you'll see. The only way men have managed to cooperate sexually was by subjugating women so ugly men could get wives. When you remove that possibility from the equation women's higher value does the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:56 PM
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Female sexual preferences are timeless, monolithic and nearly universal. They're not nearly as diverse as males are and never have been. You can believe whatever you wish. The proof, as they say is in the pudding. If I'm right, we should expect to see greater diverge between the sexes as women gain independence and don't need to rely on men. After all, ultimately only women's choices matter here. Men's desires, preferences and needs are irrelevant. This doesn't negate the fact that there were fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:38 PM
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Selection bias has to be taken into account. There's a lot of submissive straight men on Reddit with sexualities that are out of step with normal hetero dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:09 PM
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I honestly don't know. Technology makes things hard to predict. I have no idea what the world will look like by the end of the century.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:50 PM
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This flies in the face of reactive desire that women experience. I already addressed this. Women's arousal is reactive towards men they already find appealing, men that have passed the great selective filter to the point they're someone that women actively want in their space. That's actually a very high bar. In traditional cultures, women that settle aren't actually aroused by their husbands. I come from one of these cultures and have been privy to women's private conversations. Traditional wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:49 PM
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Of course not. This is just the beginning, shit's going to get much weirder before we settle into a new status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:40 PM
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Hence what TRP teaches. Avoid commitment. Perfect, so both sexes are getting what they want and we can shut down this subreddit. The great crisis of heterosexuality has been averted. 🎆
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:26 PM
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You claim they don't want to be beta bucks under any circumstances, but that's not true I did not. I said generally and increasingly as women have better options. And women specifically don't want these pathetic pussy-starved muppets they can't respect. Actually wanting to go back to those standards makes those men even less attractive, because they reveal their inability to compete in a free sexual market. That's female repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:16 PM
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Can you point out the contradiction? they can grow to find physically unremarkable men attractive over time based on behaviors And they might actually believe this, because most pre-selection is instinctive and low value men are invisible. I thought it was red/black pill wisdom that when women generalize anything about men they're usually speaking about pre-selected, non-invisible men. What exactly is your position here; what are your arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:12 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:07 PM
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If everyone is beta bucks, no one is. High value men still got enthusiastic sex from the women that pursued them and this has been the case throughout every age and culture. You're saying that low value men would be happy to go back to pretending this reality doesn't exist. Do you not see the sheer insanity of this? You actually expect millions of women to perform this sick pantomime in perpetuity just so beta bucks can pretend they're wanted. It's not going to happen. Low value men will have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:03 PM
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Literally only applies to men that have already been pre-selected and only refers purely to sexual arousal. It doesn't mean ugly, low value men can typically become sexually attractive to women, it means that even sexually attractive men have to put in the work to spark up that sexual response. You're conflating two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:52 PM
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It's a moot point because women have no use for these men. What they want is irrelevant. They want a macro restoration That's an euphemism. Say it plainly: you're stating that most men would be happy to go back to the days where women had no choice but to be financially dependent on them and would give them pity sex once a year on their birthday. Is it really any wonder that women are almost universally disgusted by that level of pathetic desperation and entitlement? Also, I call bullshit on tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:38 PM
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Women aren't sexually attracted to single characteristics the same way men are turned on by certain features or body parts. That's a pure male sexuality. It's just a high value trait; it doesn't actually change female reactive sex drive or cause spontaneous panty-wetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:22 PM
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Modern men won't be happy knowing that women settled for them and are using them for resources. And women won't settle in the first place because they have no use for men anymore. Guys want women to desire their dicks and women have no incentive to touch all these gross dudes. You can't handwave that reality away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:54 PM
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Not everyone would be beta a buck though. High value males would still be desired and pursued by women as they always have been. Thanks to our ubiquitous connectivity every low value man will see this and inevitably compare their own experiences and be dissatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:21 PM
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That's a paraphilia, not a mere preference and it's a hugely disruptive one. People with paraphilias are generally not sexually compatible with anyone that doesn't share the same fetish. I'll chalk this one to guys not actually understanding how bizarre and off-putting male sexuality can be to people that don't share their interests. Men are into some genuinely bizarre shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:46 PM
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It's all about priorities. We all value different things primarily. And most of us will have to settle in some way. If you're low value, you might find that the price of winning a mate you can actually keep is intolerable and being alone is preferable. Someone that is highly motivated by sex might never be content in a sexless relationship; people that prioritize companionship above everything might be. We can dismiss those relationships as friendships as many do here but at the end of the day a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:39 PM
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Men's sex drive has existed through human existence Women had to pretend to like average men to gain access to their resources. Now they can buy wine and cat food on their own and have found they'd rather be alone than be touched by someone they find revolting at worst. Women's preferences haven't changed, only their ability live comfortably and honestly. And modern men don't actually want to go back to the old contract anyway, they explicitly don't want to be beta bucks. In that sense, men's mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:21 PM
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While it's certainly true that modern men feel alienated, and frustrated, no creature on earth is as "entitled" as the western female. And why should women not feel this way? Straight men completely debase themselves for their attention. Men have collectively determined women's value—and it goes both ways. In the heterosexual market, pussy is expensive and you literally can't give dick away. Men turned women into queens and now we all have to bow or is off with our heads. Thanks a lot... It's al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:05 AM
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I disagree. Straight men have felt entitled to women's sexuality for thousands of years. And they've inherited an unnatural sense of worth from patriarchal culture that is at odds with their actual value, biologically and to women. It is normal for a significant portion of the male population to fuck nothing but their hands and die alone and men have been violently raging about this for all of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:03 AM
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If you can't understand the difference between serial killers/sex offenders and terrorists coalescing into an ideology/movement... It's obvious that you're not engaging in good faith here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:24 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:03 AM
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I'm here to learn. Trying to change people's minds is pointless. If you had anything useful to say you would have said it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:29 AM
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Wanna' reject men all day and treat them like garbage? Don't get surprised if you get targeted. It'll just lead us into a minority report style police state and more gender segregation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:37 AM
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I'm not here to convince you of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:39 PM
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I didn't say straight men are overvalued, I said they overvalue themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:23 PM
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You don't know anything about how the gay sexual market works. There's supply and demand as anywhere else, and winners and losers. We all have roughly equal access to bad sex with ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:22 PM
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Please, we literally just had another huge anti-SGM terrorist attack. Not only do I not think cis women in my culture would disagree with my previous statement, they're also not the only ones that will be the targets of incel rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:17 PM
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'Manageable' is primarily a factor of the means used to manage. If there's an incel uprising all we'll get is universal surveillance and Amazon-branded hunter killer drones to hunt down gender terrorists. Be careful what you stir up...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:43 PM
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This is not a 'single men' issue. A lot of gay men resign themselves to being alone and they don't shoot up straight nightclubs or women's gyms. Straight men have an entitlement problem and a massively overinflated sense of self-worth. The rest of us learn we're worthless pretty much as a matter of course. There's no path to male self-empowerment that doesn't start from within; no one else can make you worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:25 PM
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Straight men can come to terms with being unwanted and we'll put any that get uppity in prison. That's the solution .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:19 PM
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You're refusing to understand, so let me simplify: women are priceless, men are worthless. Biologically, I mean... Please don't ban me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:25 AM
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I mean, I've done some pretty ratched things for dick so who am I to judge. Go forth and multiply, kings! ✊
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:21 AM
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How are these women being overvalued if this is what men are actually willing to pay? Maybe, just maybe, women are simply worth more...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:58 AM
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You're out of your depth in this discussion. Not worth continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:51 PM
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Nope. The sexes are just segregating; politics and ideology is being gendered, with the high value men and their women on one side and the worthless leftover men fruitlessly raging on the other. Maybe actually try looking at some relevant polling...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:28 PM
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No one believes this more than men. Men are disgusted, fearful and hateful of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:26 PM
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Then your suffering is just beginning. 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:24 PM
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They are out populating us. You don't understand how demographics work. Simple as. A 2.2 fertility rate is maybe two decades from going below replacement. Not a single industrialized nation in the world, regardless of culture, has stabilized at replacement. If Saudi Arabia, China or Iran can't do it who will? This has been said countless times throughout history Only artificial intelligence can replace human labor and we've never had that before. Furthermore they will catch up with us technologi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:20 PM
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Nah, only tech matters now. Male labor and violence will become even more irrelevant, replaced by factory robots and autonomous drones. Look to the Latinos and the Muslims to do this to the US and Europe respectively. Look at the fertility rates of the Muslim and Latin world. Patriarchy is not competitive; that's why it failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:21 PM
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Well, for starters, I expect at at least 40-60% of men won't be valuable enough to secure exclusive access to women they find attractive. They will either have to share, slum it or do without. We have harem/hypergamous tendencies and human females don't appear to be very naturally promiscuous... This will lead to a transitional period where leftover men create a violent backlash, justifying women's fears and causing even more sexual segregation. Secondly, if we look at sexual scarcity through an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:42 PM
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You're not wrong, but this is just the beginning. The innate dysfunctions of heterosexuality will only become more apparent as both men and women increasingly act in their own interests, as opposed to following the outdated script set down by our ancestors. Shit is going to get so, so much weirder. We're still far from baseline human nature, there's a lot more social baggage that will fall in the next few decades. Straight people aren't still prioritizing the sexual compatibility discussion but …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:10 PM
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I think being alone (and unhappy) is better than being in an unhappy relationship. This one. Two unhappy people together just just compounds the misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:41 PM
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I've already addressed it. Modern civilization is mostly descended from sedentary farmers, which we are no longer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:17 AM
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That sounds like the perfect arrangement for someone in your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:06 PM
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Yeah your odds will be better off pursuing women in my opinion. Increasingly fems can get the pick of the litter 'cause so many heteroflexible dudes are so hard up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 08:00 PM
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Oh yeah, you'll absolutely get a lot of hate from every angle. Stick to cruising and anonymous sex and you shouldn't have any issues getting sex. Interacting socially with the community is probably out of the question though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:58 PM
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Do you have a very specific type? I notice bi tops tend to prefer the femboy aesthetic, feminine bottoms have higher SMV than women these days. If that's not the case I don't know. You shouldn't behaving trouble as a top, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:55 PM
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Gay men are at least as bad anyway . Can confirm. Most gay men dislike bisexual guys for similar reason women do: most bisexual men are bottoms and that grosses out other bottoms. Doesn't help so many bisexual guys refuse to come out or date openly. But it's mostly down to sex; the reality of bisexual-identified guys ruins the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:51 PM
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As in we will no longer have to worry about the things we worry about now. New tech, new problems. By the way, by end-game techs I mean: Transformative AI Exowombs Fusion power Sophisticated genetic engineering Brain computer interface etc Technology progresses on an S-curve. Right now, we've got a dozens of technologies in the maturation phase that will completely transform our civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:40 PM
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Settler states like the United States are perfectly suited to devouring the youth of other countries and making them Americans. It's the ethnostates that can't compete in this new world. We're going to be absolutely fine as the core of Western civilization with the prospects for the best quality immigrants. Also, we've got better neighbors than anyone else. When every other industrialized society is imploding we'll simply open our borders as we've done before and drain them dry. That will keep u…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:11 PM
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Communities like the Amish can only exist under the protection of a high tech patron. They're living fossils inside a human zoo. Utterly helpless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:35 PM
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Our demographics are too old for revolution. There's actually not that many of those surplus young men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:54 PM
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My husband's is almost as high and we love to bring in thirds. A lid for every pot. I hope you find someone that you're as compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:56 PM
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I probably have a 4 digit body count. Paradise is already here; it's just unevenly distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:45 PM
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Silence brainlet; your betters are speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:35 PM
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Yes, patriarchal civilization is helpless against industrial capitalism. They've failed evert single time against us; only something new will take our crown. We're too rich, too technologically advanced and our culture is simply to viral.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:26 PM
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Some humans choose monogamy. It doesn't matter how many do, only how many dont. Compulsory monogamy has failed and in the vacuum, mating strategies more suited to the current environment will emerge. Monogamists are literally dying out. That's failure. What they want is irrelevant. If 99% of humans alive today die, the remainders could repopulate the Earth back to current levels in a few hundred years given a reasonable doubling time. We have no idea what group what mating strategy will prove mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:24 PM
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You got it. Men won't cooperate, they're happy to move in on women other guys reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:36 PM
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Did you somehow miss the 'compulsory' part? You're utterly missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:35 PM
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Long term sun exposure is far and away, the overriding factor for external physical aging /thead Use sunscreen people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:45 PM
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People will take whatever they can get, it's human nature. We all like free shit and attention. Women don't have to do anything at all, because they're more valuable than you and don't give a shit if they get laid or not. Men decide' women's value; pussy is worth what men are willing to pay. And it's a lot. The weakness males determines the which sex has power; in love, the party that cares least is strongest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:35 PM
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women lying and always wanting what I say that they demand is never going to change. The opposite is true. Women are being more honest than they've ever, because they don't need men anymore. And the simps are here wishing they went back to lying because they can't handle the truth. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:28 PM
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They've always wanted this. They used to lie and settle and men pretended not to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:15 PM
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But they almost never do that. They don't have to. The fewer women participate in the market the more expensive pussy becomes. It puts the women that remain in an even stronger position.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:14 PM
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Oh they'll still complain. Tune it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:03 AM
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One if the ugliest writing systems in the world. My condolences. 🍷
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:38 AM
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Not by women's standards, men have been arrogant enough to assume these are the same as their own. Women always wanted the very best. There's a lot they're willing to settle for, depending on how dire the need. That's what hypergamy means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:29 AM
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I can't prove a negative. I simply see no evidence that they have, anywhere. Have you actually ever read women's romance literature? There's all the evidence you need about what women prefer: high status males of exceptional genetic quality. There, that's your type. What women have 'secretly' wanted all along. They've only been writing about it openly for two centuries... Men pretended not to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:16 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:11 AM
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I only have a vague idea. Still working on that one... Need to read a lot more romance novels... But we all know who doesn't fit. Who is unfit. They post here. We know who doesn't fit those standards because if they did, they would have girlfriends now that women have full control of their dating choices. 🌌🧠
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:10 AM
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They haven't increased, just been revealed. Women have always wanted the same thing, men have just been too stupid and pathetic to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:03 AM
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See above. We will all take the best deal we can get. Women are worth what thirsty simps are willing to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:01 AM
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Everyone loves free shit and no one likes to do work they don't gotta. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:00 AM
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Bait post?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:26 AM
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Interesting question but it won't gain much traction here. I can't say about epigenetic factors. But we should be having a lot more babies, given the sheer resource surplus. It's like all our r selectors are sleep at the wheel. We should be breeding like rats and desperately trying to spread ourselves far and wide. Instead, even the most reactionary cultures are dying out. I think birth control, the legacy of patriarchal monogamy, and industrial capitalism has robbed us of something vital.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:18 AM
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Women's standards haven't increased. They can now afford to live pleasant lives without a man's resources and many have found that they prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:03 AM
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We are in no immediate danger of going extinct, absent some kind of truly catastrophic event. I never said we were. You're not actually thinking about what I'm writing. 8 billion people are descended from less than 10,000. My hometown could repopulate the world. We don't know what groups are actually going to be successful this century. It could be that a tiny fringe minority of a few thousand people are the ancestors of trillions in a few thousand years. I can see some pretty significant pushba…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:00 AM
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Natural selection doesn't give a shit about numbers, it only cares about fitness. Nature will end a species of trillions of individuals in the blink of an eye. At some point our entire species dipped lower than 10,000 people and we're all descended from these survivors. That's how close we've been to extinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:36 AM
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So I'm saying, if your claim were true, etc. Be specific. Enforced monogamy is still highly successful among various minority populations, especially those that hold to more traditional values. Look at the fertility levels in Iran and Saudi Arabia. They'll be under replacement within two decades. Capitalism wants consumers with disposable income more than it wants mothers. Whatever comes next will have to outcompete both industrial and patriarchal values.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:48 AM
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Sorry for being overly critical, I'm just being cynical. I genuinely hope it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:49 AM
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If this were true If what was true? Enforced monogamy became the dominant norm because it works better than other alternatives. It worked better. Now it does not work at all, hence the current fertility crisis. Technological civilization must adapt to survive, so it will.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:54 AM
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A few lesbians will inevitably do it when it becomes technologically possible. And their daughters will have daughters. Our current world, and hopefully the world to come, is actually the perfect environment for a species like that to thrive. Parthenogenesis is typically not very competitive but it does exist in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:43 AM
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That's why I said both natural and adaptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:41 AM
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There's no way to differentiate between successful and preferred. And we humans are at the stage of our technological development when our preferences are all that matter. I posit that: Compulsory monogamy only became hyper dominant due to the neolithic revolution Compulsory monogamy has failed since the industrial revolution Other reproductive strategies will emerge or be revived to fit our environmental and social preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:12 AM
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Well, we need to make babies regardless and those babies will decide the future. We might choose to grow babies in pods and only have 'sex' with sex dolls, that's still reproduction. It's valid as long as it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:06 AM
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Those are not the only options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:40 PM
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Compulsory monogamy only became the dominant strategy after the agricultural revolution as far as I'm aware. As we move away from it, other strategies more suited to the current environments will emerge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:38 PM
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Bonobos are mentioned in the OP. I expect female parthenogenesis will be a viable reproductive strategy soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:35 PM
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There's a difference between being successful and being preferred and scientists have no way to separate the two. Since the advent of agriculture forced monogamy has been the most successful arrangement. The transition from hunter-gatherers to farmers itself showed us that the new system need not be perfect or even comfortable, it just needs to be more competitive. We don't know whether monogamy will remain the most successful strategy going forward; our cratering fertility clearly shows that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:27 PM
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There are a limited number of ways that sexually reproducing organisms can negotiate reproduction and we humans have employed all of them. I believe we will again. It's very relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:05 PM
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Maybe not, but there's more than one way to successfully arrange a society. Other primates show us the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:59 PM
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We're returning to monke. This is how our ancestors did it before the neolithic. Forced monogamy was an artificial construct that is not even universal in patriarchal cultures. In the modern world I expect we'll end up employing multiple mating strategies, because humans are sexual generalists and so diverse neurologically. We will see: Pair bonding like the Gibbons. Mind you, that doesn't actually mean sexual exclusivity Polygeny, like gorillas. Chad Silverback and his hypergamous concubines Po…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:15 PM
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That 400lbs woman might be the only woman in the state that has the same fetish for furry breeding gainer femdom porn. And those scrawny nerds are actually the lucky few who get to live out their freaky sex fantasies in meatspace. Do you not know the bizarre shit millennial basement nerds have been jerking off to all these years? The upper range of that generation are in their 40! Even some of the slowest of bloomers among us have managed to pair up by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:18 PM
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You'd have to pay me to play that too... I think that applies to most people with a Y chromosome, even a defective one like mine. I just don't see any average male spending that much time helping other dudes get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:29 PM
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Sounds like you've thought this through. I say go for it, it can't possibly be worse for society than what's available now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:53 PM
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People say a lot of things. Most of it is bullshit because most people are stupid and don't know themselves. You can't fully what people would do in a situation they've never been in, at best you can approximate. And straight men have never been sexually satiated in the history of our species. Unless there's something fundamentally different that separates gay and straight male sexuality, which I'm not discounting here, it's fair to assume that straight men would react to sexual satiation the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:52 PM
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Sounds like a job. No actually, matchmaker is literally a job. Unless I get to sample the dick to make sure it's good what's my incentive to participate as a married person? Like you said, most people interested in this are going to be young women of a very specific kind. Unless I misunderstood the process, they're going to massively overvalue females and undervalue males, leading to the same mismatch as any other app targeted to the cishet market. With added virtue signaling to boot. Incoming C…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:23 PM
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I can't respect guys that are so timid that they'd care if their nudes got leaked; guys that would never actually take them in the first place might as well be sexless golems. I don't think I even see them as men. Im my native culture being sexually forward is an integral part of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:58 PM
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No way anyone really wants to see that anyway. Wrong! 50-60 is my fav age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:53 PM
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Why is it normal for people to have sex with strangers? Evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:51 AM
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Men who are 7s and 8s like myself... You're not a 7 or an 8. SMV can only logically be determined by your your target population and the specific dating market you're competing in. If the only women that engage you are 4s, then sorry to say this, you're a 4. Grindr knock off apps simply don't work for straight people. They only make any sense when the parties involved have similar priorities and gauge each others' value along the same axes and men and women might as well be different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:52 PM
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But I can't imagine a single Republican or independent looking at that photo and changing their vote on the basis of that. Magatards only care about sexual misconduct when they can use it as a justification for their bigotry or their deranged conspiracy theories. But what do I know, I'm just a groomer trying to make the whole world queer. 🌈
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:41 PM
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Female preferences are instinctual and were shaped by our ancestral environment a hundred thousand years ago. Whether they fit our modern society is wholly besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:45 PM
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There are many ways to settle: the one that challenges hetero men the is the idea of women settling sexually. Most are absolutely not OK with this once they think about it, they just don't know any better. A lot of men that are settled for are lied to and manipulated into it. I think fewer would take the deal if it was explicit. That said, if both parties go into it with eyes wide open it's a perfectly fine way to start a relationship---specially when both sides are coming from the same situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:50 PM
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They literally came up with a super duper special word to describe basic as fuck everyday female sexuality. 💀 "Oh, I only get turned on in late spring when Mars is in retrograde. How many victim points is that worth?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:37 AM
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Men are their own worst enemy. I gave up on them years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:32 AM
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Sure. Obesity too. But straight people still don't talk about sexual compatibility, it's not just about boredom. The subject doesn't typically get the attention it deserves until people find themselves stuck in a dead bedroom. Men will often keep quiet about their tastes 'cause they think they can't do better and women have less incentive to care, and are often ignorant Historically, millions of guys, even if they managed to get a wife, still often had to pay for the pleasures they couldn't get …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:44 PM
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Porn is just a black mirror, it revealed what was already there, which patriarchal civilization can no longer conceal as it collapses. It was required for men to be kept in the dark about female nature or the whole house of cards would have crumbled down much earlier. The Greeks had this shit figured out thousands of years ago. It took a lot of gaslighting, lying and outright violence to create our current paradigm. We're just reverting to our natural state.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:02 PM
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It's literally true though. If real life were a civ game we've won tech, cultural and economic victories.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:52 PM
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Because Western civilization has terminally cucked every other. Look upon our greatness and despair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:49 PM
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Watches anime. I feel bad saying that since I'm a huge geek myself but anime people are just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:46 PM
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We've been ducking each other in the ass since before we were even human. How do you think the prostate got so sensitive? 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:43 PM
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50% increase... 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:24 PM
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Men only whine about high body counts because sex is so scarce to begin me. If they could get it on tap they'd be too blissed out on pussy to give a single shit. Source: gay culture. Sex is like water. You only think about it that much when you ain't getting it. 💦
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:55 PM
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The percentage of sexless men has grown 50% in 20 years. Do you have any reason to believe this trend has plateaued? I don't think it's going to stop until we're down to Pareto, though we'll probably unravel long before we get to that point. Polygyny is probably the single worst mating strategy for social stability and guess where we're headed? And don't say it can't happen, we've done it before. One of our closest relatives, the gorillas, are a harem species. The other two are promiscuous, one …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:32 PM
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Dichotomous thinking helps no one. There are other paths besides female enslavement or the extinction of technological civilization. We can't change males to be more like females or we'd stagnate and die. So why not make women more like men? It's not like we're going to die out next Tuesday, we have some time to figure shit out. But we actually have to talk about the problem... If we find a way to engineer our daughters to produce as much testosterone as males without interfering with reproducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:14 PM
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I'm attracted to men. The overwhelming majority of guys women dismiss are not ugly. Why can't women just admit that their biological nature is problematic and out of place in the modern world? No one lets men forget about every shitty aspect of their naturally evolved characteristics, preferences and behavior. It's always deflect, deflect, gaslight... Here's the truth: women's nature as the determiners of genetic fitness has caused untold amount of human suffering, conflict and despair and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:20 PM
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I'm Latin. I don't see that at all. People think because Latinos are integrating into American politics and half might end voting Republican that this marks some kind of fundamental value shift in these populations. These divisions have always existed, minority populations aren't typically monolithic. American blacks are outliers. There's a reason so many Latin American countries legalized same sex marriage, outliers among much more developed economies. Latin culture is distant descendant of Rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:06 PM
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as if men are chasing down big Bertha Supply and demand still applies; there's more fat women than men specifically into fat women these days but men are still overwhelmingly more sexually diverse than women. There's no type of woman in this world that doesn't have at least a small loyal following that loves them exactly as they are. Male sexuality is massively adaptive. So women don’t want ugly men?!? The average man is not objectively ugly. It is purely female nature that makes them seem that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:29 PM
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Latin culture is hypersexual, with very little of the baggage that Americans have, in spite of the reputation for Catholicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:14 PM
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I think men's sexuality has evolved beyond women's due to the fact that subcultures have developed around men's fetishes. If a guy's main sexual fantasy is getting pegged, he's not going to be very satisfied with a submissive, starfish woman no matter how attractive she might be otherwise. The internet has unleashed straight male sexuality to the point I would say the average straight men these days has almost the same awareness of his preferences and fundamental sexual nature as gays. You can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:06 PM
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We're quickly sliding back to the days were female purity is sacrosanct and men are seen as even more of a corrupting, degrading influence. Expect Muslim-style segregation, but feminist and non-problematic this time around. 🧕 The sexual revolution was a complete psyop. Women were never interested in getting dicks in their holes, they just wanted to be free to compete for the few trophy husbands that make them look good to their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:54 PM
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I'm friends or friendly with all of my exes. People that loathe one of their exes might have gotten unluck, people that hate every single one are bad judges of character and I don't feel comfortable with them being interested in me. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:43 PM
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I would say I’m personally not attracted to submissive or cross dressing males, for me I’d prefer to have him dominate me and watch him dominate another male. This, right here is the whole answer. There's multiple ways to be bisexual and they're not all sexually attractive to everyone. A lot, maybe most, self-identified male bisexuals are submissives bottoms with other men and that's what women are put off by. It's basically the same way gay guys relate to bi guys, the masculine tops are desired…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:11 AM
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So they need to find something positive and attractive about their partners No, they really don't. Have you heard the things third world women say about their husbands when no men are around? I don't know about other cultures but Latin women are brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:56 PM
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Yeah sure, but I’m a straight male so my opinion is biased. Women's opinion of what's attractive is biased too. Women fundamentally feel and understand sexual attraction differently from men. We're all biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:05 AM
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Nah... How is that a counter for for anything I said? Women like what they've always liked. It wasn't any different in the past, women just don't need men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:48 AM
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All of us have equal access to bad sex with unattractive people. Human sexual compatibility and attraction are unfair and the world would be a happier place if everyone was happy to fuck everyone. But that's not our reality; we like what we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:44 AM
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Look up the definition of outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:30 PM
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You're an outlier. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:42 PM
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Almost any average male will cheat give the opportunity and an attractive enough incentive. The guy that might not cheat with a fat girl might reconsider a for a threesome with two models. These opportunities are just rarer for low value males. Humans are sexual opportunists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:47 PM
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I've post here before. I delete my comments, posts and accounts regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:52 PM
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:02 PM
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I'm 33. That's old enough to be considered a full adult even by millennial standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:41 PM
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Absolutely. I was always puzzled growing up when I noticed long-term couples that no longer sit together, no longer hold hands. I know we're all built different but it always made me wonder if they loved each other. For that reason I'm always consciously aware to show my husband that he's actively appreciated within my space. I enjoy randomly running my hands through his beard or ruffling his hair when I walk by he melts like a puppy. Touch your partners more people. There's a hundred thousand w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:38 PM
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I'm not an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:21 PM
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I'm a radical centrist. Mostly I just want to be left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:24 PM
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Mate selection is one of the most important choices a female will make. Pre-selection from other females ideally does most of the work of weeding out the unfit, so the trait persists. Males need not jump through such hoops as their mating strategy amounts to nothing much beyond spray and pray. That's the reasonable, boring answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:05 PM
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I actually just finished writing a reply about that to the other poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:55 PM
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As I see it, virtually all modern discontent among young men stems from the realization that women simply do not desire the average man as they wish to be desired. The substance abuse and suicide epidemics, the political issatisfaction, depression and low self-worth all exist downstream of this. Our culture spent hundreds of years gaslighting us about human nature and now straight guys can't seem to cope with reality of being a leftover male. Specially in a culture where they see a minority of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:16 PM
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You're right. It's very obvious for those of us looking in from outside the cishet dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:05 AM
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Not so much in terms of heterosexual males being sexually attracted to young women. 🤨📸
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:33 PM
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Our patriarchal cultures spent thousands of years artificially selecting for hypergamous, frigid women. Now that we're switching back to promiscuous meating strategies, we could have had a society like the bonobos if our women were sluttier. But since men burned all the sluts at the stake now we're stuck in chimp hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 11:32 PM
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EDIT: I see that a lot of guys are ignoring the part about psychopaths being extremely focused on mating, and jumping straight to the "be an asshole" part. Yup. They conveniently missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:11 AM
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psychopaths behave like charming supersimp Holy shit, this makes perfect sense. 'Antisocial' personalities are what's left when you strip out everything but the mating drive. They're fucking cuckoos. Of course evolution would throw out something so vile. 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:08 AM
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Yes of course there are always outliers. I'm generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:28 PM
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The only truly androphilic humans are homosexual males, everyone else is gynephilic. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:43 PM
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That's the trick isn't it? Differentiating from tech that will save us from the mess created by previous tech and the ones that will kill us. Going back means certain death; moving forward means almost certain death. Let's hope our winning streak holds up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:25 PM
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People have made the same arguments since the neolithic revolution. It doesn't matter if peasant farmers are less healthy and and unhappier than hunter gatherers, sessile agriculturists had an advantage and thus their values flourished. This centralization and the labor specialization that it enabled led to such the massive caloric surplus that's responsible for the unprecedented growth in our population. Without technology we'd still be at the mercy of the forces that brought us within an inch …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:07 PM
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TLDR
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:54 PM
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I'm sure the last step in this patch technology will be widespread acceptance of euthanasia, death as the "final solution" to the problem of life itself, which means progressivism itself will be closer to a death cult. I cannot wait. Or we'll just grow babies in pods or clone our brains digitally and stick them in android chassis. Your bitterness is blinding you to the fact that technological progress is not over, in fact it's only accelerating, including this what will have precipitate huge cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:47 PM
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Women are still subsidized by male labor we've just replaced husbands and fathers by state welfare. Women as a class are tax sponges, they consume more than they put into the system. The strong independent woman that needs no man is fiction; nothing more than social engineering and gaslighting, at least collectively. And before anyone @s me about domestic work or 'emotional labor'... Those of us that ain't your baby daddy don't benefit from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:30 PM
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but most men won't? Hmm. You're right. Gay men will, though. As fetishization of certain archetypes. Women consume the overwhelming majority of erotica. Female sexuality is more... symbolic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:56 AM
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As I said, out-competed. In the timescales of current civilization biology has been outpaced by technology. If nothing changed, in a hundred years the demographics might matter---but the world will be unrecognizable by the end of the century due to technology. Going forward, communities like the Amish and such can only survive under the protection of a technologically advanced patron.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:09 AM
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And those cultures got out-competed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:22 AM
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Clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:18 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_de_Waal#Books
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:14 AM
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Wrong. Google sexual conflict/antagonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 08:12 PM
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It's not a competition. The point of technology is that everyone should be able to get what they want without having to fight others for it or have others suffer for your pleasure. More sexual and reproductive choices for everyone can only improve gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:00 PM
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Nothing is being wasted creating sexbots. All of that is downstream of the massive progress in artificial intelligence that is happening right now. Same applies to virtual reality and every other technology that will be used for people to connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:58 PM
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There are different kinds of love. It's possible to love someone deeply, romantically but lack sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:36 PM
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It's all fun and games until the sexbots come equipped with a fully functioning artificial uterus...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:33 PM
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Loneliness can be solved technologically. There's no solution to women's preferences. Even if we engineered every man to be a 10 by today's standards I don't think it would be enough. The hypergamy treadmill would probably just shift to status, sexual dominance or another proxy for genetic fitness, as female genes 'understand' the concept. Does not necessarily coincide with social fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:32 PM
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I was just as surprised. Growing up I was taught the same as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:13 PM
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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/120306-gorilla-genome-apes-humans-evolution-science Old news.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:11 PM
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Actually, recent genetic research has revealed we're virtually equally related to bonobos, chimps and gorillas. That's the three main mating strategies in primates represented. I think we are the sexual generalists of the, which I'd bet partially explains our success.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:07 PM
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Capitalism didn't create this problem. What we're seeing is a force of nature, being unleashed as the old patriarchal cultures that kept it in check continue to collapse. Men have always been this desperate and pathetic when it comes to sex. The difference now is that women are once again performing their biological function: to wean out the unworthy. And it turns out that being told your genes are unfit and should die out is kinda of a bummer...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:50 AM
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Reading women's perspectives on this sub with an open mind is low key changing the way I see the world. You ladies have taught me so much.💛
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:23 AM
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We've always had an open relationship, I just haven't taken advantage of that freedom in a very long time. He still does occasionally, though increasingly less so as he's gotten older. We also like to pick up strangers together once in a blue moon but that's even rarer as it's hard for us to find someone we both like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:03 PM
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Until people understand that human males and females are locked in an evolutionary war against each other, gender relations will never make sense. What's left of the old cultures emphasizes the complimentary nature of men and women but under the hood our genes, the actual units subject to selective pressures, are duking it out. Ironically, our ancestors probably understood gender relations better than we do in some ways. Female and male reproductive strategies are inherently at odds. Males are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:08 PM
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I find this constant talk about n-counts hilarious---het men that often can't get a single vaguely female human being to swing on their dicks dreaming of alphadom. I've had sex with hundreds of guys while I my husband's count is still below triple digits. I feel like I've gotten my money's worth when it comes to sex so I haven't stepped out in years. I still don't begrudge him the rare instances where he manages to get a blowjob from a drunken chick while traveling for work. It's never been an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:09 PM
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Hold on just a little bit longer and you might find the current suffering would have been worth it. I genuinely believe a second sexual revolution is coming. A real one, that doesn't leave anyone behind. It'll start out in niches like virtual reality and at the fringes of heterosexual identity but it's definitely coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:19 AM
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My husband is a sex crimes detective. Listening to his stories about the wild sex lives of literally scum of the earth, bottom of the barrel thugs pretty much destroyed any illusions I had left when it comes to humanity. Evil men are more sexually desirable than prosocial ones to a vast number of women. This is undeniable. Talk about a perverse incentive; the future of heterosexuality is deeeeep black.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:51 PM
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In matters of love and sex, whoever cares least wins. Women have an evolutionary and social incentive to always be cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:16 PM
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That’s not the way to approach this. Obviously. That said, men continue to fulfill their part of the social contract even at a time in history and in places that actively hate and undermine them. Women, on the other hand have failed to pick up the slack and remain unproductive and essentially subsidized by male labor. This is not stable. It cannot continue thus it will end. Somehow. Hopefully, as I said, exowombs instead of Handmaid's Tale. Biologically, there's almost nothing a female can contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:26 PM
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Most males in this sub are genetic dead ends hopelessly railing against the cruelties of nature and evolution. It's the women that participate here that I find highly suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:20 PM
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Not at all. I believe reproduction should be democratized. Expecting half of the population to be essentially breeding caste for the rest can only ever result in either subjugation social supremacy with no in-between. We need more babies than women are willing to have just to avoid extinction so we have no choice but to industrialize the creation of new humans. Baby pods are coming and with them the possibility of real equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:02 PM
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There's been plenty of research on this. Women have in-group bias, men have outgroup vias.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:34 PM
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For detractors, there's never a 'right man'. It's a transparent motte & bailey. It's not the tone that haters mind, but the content. Nicer, more competent and qualified men like Warren Farrel have tried and were demonized. No privileged group likes having it rubbed in their faces, especially if they feel they're in a precarious position where they feel, rationally or not, that their privileges could be taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:13 PM
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Thanks! 💛
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:01 PM
1

Can you substantiate that claim that married women are happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:38 PM
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That's a still a sexual incentive. Usually not an issue, until something like the pill comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:56 PM
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That's hilarious. Men don't want babies, they want sex. Evolution in its stupid glory thought one was a viable proxy for the other and now we're in this mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:19 PM
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Men will stop spending money a lot quicker if they get a quality match. I haven't used any of the gay hookup apps since I met my husband and that's primarily used for sex. If we used our current AI to create a dating app it would be massively successful at creating viable relationships and also be a terrible business model.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:16 PM
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No, you can't because 'real life's doesn't exist in a vacuum. Neither does the Internet mind you but it's a lot freer from the influences of dying cultures. Our 'real life' is a continuation of thousands of years of patriarchal cultures designed and evolved specifically as a check on hypergamy. A return to primal values, as we're experiencing will create a culture unlike anything the world has seen in centuries upon centuries and that's before you even take technology into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:13 PM
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Matt Damon is beautiful. When I see a guy like that in Home Depot I'm not the only one rubbernecking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:46 PM
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Why is it women's responsibility, after getting unwanted attention to boot, to give men dating advice? It's literally not her problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:22 PM
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Smart reply. When in doubt always look at the porn and it'll give you an idea of what the sexual market actually looks like within that niche. People will lie to themselves and others but consumption does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:08 PM
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Have you ever heard 'the juice is not worth the squeeze'? If human males and females are fundamentally incompatible sexually, it's only going to get worse as technology makes it better for men to have convenient access to more realistic pornographic experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:08 PM
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I’m glad I’m old and married. Same. W. T. F. I'm glad I just missed this fuckery as an old millennial. I feel bad for most of the people in my generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:55 PM
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I'm all for sex tourism, I'm pretty sure it's Cuba's second largest source of income after foreign remittances.💲🇨🇺💲 Prostitution is legal there btw. Please visit my home country they really need the money. That goes for you saggy Karens too, don't let Jamaican men have all the fun I know what you get up to in the islands...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:32 AM
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I hope that's sarcasm. Otherwise this subredito has rotted your brain. I can believe it's me saying this, given the theme of this account, but can we stay grounded in reality here? This is happening: https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/08/25/1058652/grow-new-organs/ It's real. We need to deal with the consequences of these technologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:31 AM
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Since again it’s always been an option for men to have a child without a woman ( adoption , fostering? Are these not options?) this just boils down to revenge fantasy. Only if you're ignorant or oblivious enough not to notice that industrial civilization is barreling towards collapse due to a demographic crisis. 2.1 children must be born per woman, this is non-negotiable if we want to continue to exist Ultimately these kids will come from somewhere, whether women are involved in the process or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:47 AM
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I just hide my nails from people lol No you don't. People notice more than they let on but it's a very strong taboo to draw attention to things like that. Nasty hands are gross. You're reinforcing behavior that makes you repellent to NTs. Another good answer to the OP question is right here: autistic people's disregard or ignorance of social convention and collective taboos comes across as entitled, arrogant or disgusting and bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:19 AM
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That wasn't meant as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:15 PM
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Straight women's behaviour isn't the topic of discussion. Though I can see why you'd be confused; you're biologically incapable of thinking about anything unless it has a pussy. 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:33 AM
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Women cooperate sexually to maintain the pussy cartel and compete with each other for men's resources. Gay men cooperate to keep tops in circulation and compete with each other for their long-term attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:49 AM
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Getting sex from people you're not attracted to is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:17 PM
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Every group has innate preferences that trigger near-universal disgust responses. But gay bottoms are typically the most flexible of the man-loving peoples. Only hard rule seems to be that vers wants vers or top and bottoms want top.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:14 PM
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Apparently not so obviously, since we keep having to remind cishet men that sex you don't want doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:17 PM
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I'm not moving the goalposts, I'm saying we have different priorities because we're fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:13 PM
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Easier time getting sex does not equal a happier life or easier partnerships. It just feels that way to straight guys 'cause they've got high libido and few outlets
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:56 PM
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Umm... yes. Wait, is this actually news to you? We have a friend whose favorite thing to do is pick up day laborers at Home Depot. He gives them beer, lunch and a couple hundred and blows them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:51 PM
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Which part are you having trouble understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:56 PM
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Human sexuality seems purposely designed to torture each and every one of us in unique and special ways. Trust me when I say no one is getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:44 PM
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Definitely former. The demand for men who prefer to penetrate (even orally) far exceeds supply. It's actually more complicated than that culturally as most gay men identify as verse, but the market doesn't care. Being a top ads a massive bonus to your SMV. 🍆>🍑
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:39 PM
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He’s speaking in general and they do have it easier by default of not having to deal with the opposite sex Each sex has enough issues, just within itself, to create plenty plenty of unhappiness when combined. Two males means twice as much of everything bad about the male sex, with no tempering force. The good is really good, the bad is really bad. Human beings are not... I don't even know how to put it. Your needs are not interchangeable, like a recipe where you can substitute one thing for anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:25 PM
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OP only thinks LGBT people have it easier because he knows next to nothing about our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:38 PM
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Cool, so is there a red pill subreddit for gay bottoms? You're not understanding. The red-pill equivalent for bottoms IS gay culture, because while bottoms are not high value, they're still the majority so their choices determine the social environment. A huge chunk of mainstream gay culture already revolves around activties and values that will maximize everyone's ability to get at least some dick. Gay men cooperate sexually and compete romantically as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:53 PM
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No offense but cishet men have no clue what goes on in the lives of queer people. Others don't exist to you guys unless you want to stick your dick in it or need to prove a point. Gay men are the perfect example here because RPers seem to be downright jealous of how easy gay men get laid. How many of you know about the epidemic of loneliness among gay men or the struggles with sexual compatibility... The gay sexual market is the opposite of the straight one, with bottoms being low value and tops…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:37 PM
1

A random man would be unattractive, because most men are. It's basic probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:41 AM
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but a woman can be charmed by a man who she is not initially attracted to. And how common is this vs. the chance that she's being harassed by someone she finds obnoxious at best, revolting at worst? Because I hear more complaining from women about harassment than I do sweet love stories. If I understand this right, the black pill says that women are not heterosexual, they're chadsexual. Or 'Chad only' in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:38 AM
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Right? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:44 PM
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That feeling is the point of the post. That's how most women feel about being approached by random men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:32 PM
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Cishet men are hard to love. ☝️🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:37 PM
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My only argument so far is that modern men wouldn't be happy with the natural status quo. And they wouldn't be, patriarchal civilization was the sweetest deal in terms of access to mates that human males have ever had. Going the opposite direction towards a market that overwhelmingly favors women is giving men whiplash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:27 PM
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The goal is to better understand people and the world. It goes without saying that the views in this community are skewed, but that's the same for every community. The only good solution I've found is to pay attention to what every community has to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:11 PM
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Anthropologists typically assert that tribal humans were cooperative and solved problems together No. This is noble savage whitewashing. Hunter-gatheret societies have the highest rates of violence between men. It wasn't quite 80% but a LOT of them died in war and inter and intra-tribal conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:44 PM
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No. It's not possible for the average heterosexual male today to be sexually satisfied while women have agency. The sexes are fundamentally at odds in their mating strategies; females are obligate K-strategists and males evolved to both compliment and take advantage of that. Traits that regulate female sexual receptivity, like estrus, give females their only leverage. Lots of selective pressure reinforcing that over the ages, both genetically and socially... The reason so many men will not be sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:20 AM
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We know that only 40% of men that have lived reproduced. Not quite 80% but still not great odds that would satisfy the modern male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:27 AM
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we are on the cusp of a very strange and alien humankind. Unlike many people I'm not scared of change. I love novelty. Even I get nervous when I think about what's ahead. It's almost impossible to imagine a world where the moderating influence (or reproductive and sexual bottleneck, less charitably) of the female side of the equation simply no longer applies. It's going to be some New Babylon shit and I'm here for it. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:10 PM
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As others, I think that sexual behavior can be partially understood in economic terms. Under those assumptions, the the way females collaborate to decide which males are excluded from reproduction across so many species can be described as a cartel. For the first time in history, I believe we're seeing what happens when an intelligent species uses technology to undermine the collective power of these cartels. The next few decades are going to be wild... Like 30,000 years of social change as expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:49 PM
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I thought that it would be a useful type of posturing to get my point across The content of the post is good but most reader won't understand. [...] but men each are unique as are women if they have the courage of heart to deny the various memetic attempts to browbeat them into the undermining of their own psychology and self worth. I'm hopeful about the future because, as you say, men are variable. Many will undoubtedly become drones to the gynocracy, in the vein of OnlyFan simps. But a signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:12 PM
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Your writing style is obnoxious. I thought I got self-indulgent when writing long posts...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:43 PM
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Seed on barren soil. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:04 PM
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Many species love to eat babies. It's not intellect that separates you from them, but your evolutionary history as a social primate. To believe that you arrived at your values solely due to reason and choice is both arrogant and ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:44 PM
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As much as it is a choice for you not to murder an eat babies. Everything you are, fundamentally, is a product of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:10 PM
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Sexual antagonism is literally written into our DNA. Females and males compete with each other genetically as much as they might cooperate otherwise. It can't be any other way when genes are the primary unit of selection and optimal mating strategies for the sexes are so different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:58 PM
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Being thrown from a building isn't very good for your health either. 🌈
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:46 AM
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However, you don't have to be in character 24/7. The exact opposite actually. You want to be "in-character" every waking minute, and correct yourself instantly when you slip up. If you start young enough and keep it up long enough, eventually you'll actually forget your 'real' self. Voice, posture, mannerisms... It's what most feminine homosexuals. who are often visibly gender non-conforming from a very young age, have done for centuries in repressive cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:26 AM
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I like porn of every type but have always preferred erotica. The key distinction here is actually not between visual and written porn in my opinion, that's just a factor of the biological differences between men and women. Both written erotica and hentai fulfill the same fundamental need: they're an outlet for needs that have grown beyond the scope of reality. Men's more visual porn of choice makes it obvious why men gravitate towards it. It's harder to gauge for women unless you read the materi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:26 PM
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I wish I could make 10-20K a month off me just taking pics and videos swinging my cock around but alas, we don't live in that world. You definitely can. The $600 in OnlyFans tips I just paid off is evidence of that... The male market is smaller because the audience is smaller but a LOT more chill than what women creators have to put up with. And you have to be OK with kinky shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:58 PM
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My cumulative impression from all of this is that men don’t actually love women, not in the way you love a person, as greater than the sun of their parts. They just care about the parts. This is true but you don't understand what it means, how it works, what it does. Your blindspot here, like most women's, is male sexuality. Men's love of parts, as you put it, does the opposite of what you believe. This sexual hyperfocus is actually one of the mechanisms modern males have appropriated in order t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:44 PM
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Mutual touching, oral, masturbation... Elderly people have sex differently but it is still sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:32 PM
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Not with a falling population, unless we automate everything and cure aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:00 AM
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Enough people will reproduce to sustain humanity... We would have a mini dark age. No thanks that would fuck up my retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:36 AM
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That would lead to the collapse of technological civilization. We need to come to terms with reproduction in this new age, even if we have to clone people, create artificial wombs, have AI babies...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:19 AM
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By their logic, reducing online use for children and monitoring their could reduce the potency of a fetish. Umm that's not what I said. I'm a free speech absolutist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:42 PM
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Why regress? I know modern culture is very doom and gloom but don't count us out yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:05 AM
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Ok, have fun with that. I am. We were primates for hundreds of thousands of years before we were people. Your view of the world is a sliver of our genetic history. You don't understand anything about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:29 AM
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Are you really comparing human sexuality to that of other primates? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:05 AM
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Nothing. Our demographics are just not conducive to the exuberant violent displays of younger civilizations. We'll be lucky if we can have enough children just to keep from collapsing as we transition into this new age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:46 PM
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Nothing is guaranteed but I see possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:50 PM
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There's several technologies that I expect will have a positive impact for men's sexual health Morphological freedom. Our ability to modify our biology will only increase which means everyone looks like they want to, including females natural competitors, such as homosexuals, that were previously held back by inferior biology from entering the market Virtual reality. Porn has already massively reduced demand for sex to the point that it's had an impact on men's choices. This is only going to inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:18 PM
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Why do you think that? I expect the inequality to grow (like the financial one we are seeing) Our males are natural pioneers and technology is about to open up a dozen different new frontiers for our species. I'm very optimistic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:55 PM
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Fetishes are a fundamental aspect of male sexuality. They are the reason males are so sexually diverse and thus one of men's most powerful reproductive tools. They create mating opportunities that would otherwise not arise and thus provide a massive competitive advantage. It’s okay if you have a fetish, you can’t change what has happened to you, You can actually alter specific kinks, including reducing their allure, if you know where they comes from. I've done it. Paraphilias are (often) irratio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:27 PM
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We can't just send surplus young men off to die in wars like we used to but we can monitor them with ubiquitous high tech surveillance and pacify them with legal cannabis and internet porn.... For the record, I don't think that's an acceptable solution nor will it be viable long-term. I believe the current status quo is transitory, growing pains as we settle into a new civilizational paradigm. I actually expect males will be very successful once the dust settle but the sexes will just continue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:25 PM
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I don't think pedophilia is an abnormality, not in the sense that you can pinpointing to certain developmental issues like with intersex or antisocial people. Likely It's a extreme expression of the average heterosexual men's inherent attraction to young females, taken to the unproductive extreme. Evolution is messy and dumb. Obviously you need a balance between youth and fertility but it doesn't always throw out viable results. As men are generally more variable you will see a lot more instance…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:53 PM
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Why haven't you measured your own test? Why don't you go on TRT? By being so passive/risk-averse you're basically contributing to your own emasculation. GPs don't typically measure test unless you ask for it. It's something you have to be referred to an endo for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:48 PM
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The size of your testicles literally tell the entire story of female promiscuity. The reason you don't have raising-sized nuts and a dick the size of a pinkie is female promiscuity and sexual selection. Culture is transient. The accelarating death of patriarchal values is proof of that. Biology, on the other hand is eternal. At least until we can engineer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:43 PM
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Sleeping around a lot destroys pair bonding and has negative effects on your ability to form healthy relationships, that goes for guys and gals. Why would you assume that pair bonding is in our cards for the future? We're biological species subject to natural selection and have a plethora of adaptive tools under our belt. Humans are extremely versatile when it comes to mating. By all physical markers, we fall somewhere in between other primates which basically make us sexual generalists. We migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:30 PM
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yw
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:30 PM
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What they want is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:22 AM
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As opposed to? GDP is directly correlated to cultural and technological power. Regardless of your values we all need resources to live and compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:14 PM
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🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:24 PM
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You're misunderstanding. Research shows that men naturally perceive an erect penis as a mating challenge and react by becoming aroused themselves. This is in line with evidence, like the size of human testicles, that show we exhibit somewhat higher levels of sperm competition than a purely tournament species. We evolved to gangbang.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:19 PM
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Prove it. Where's your evidence that sexual orientation can be changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:09 PM
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You can't condition someone to be attracted to something they don't naturally have an intrinsic affinity for. Not to that extent.This is bordering on conversion therapy apologia tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:50 PM
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Not our problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:50 PM
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Most Americans are descended from dirt poor European garbage. In contrast today migration systems in developed nations seek to drain away the most skilled and intelligent from developing countries. These are people you want in your nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:57 PM
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You misunderstand. The study doesn't just show that women care for women more than they do men, it also shows men care more about women than they do about fellow men as well. It's directly relevant to the OP...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:21 PM
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Men don't want help, friends or allies. The only thing they want is women and women simply don't want them. It's tragic, but so are all our collective stories when it comes to attraction and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:43 PM
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Scarcity. For a look at how men act in a lower scarcity sexual market look once again at gay men. That's the kind of life the average red-blooded heterosexual male wishes he could be living. Everything else is cope and institutionalized mate-guarding. For the typical male, when they can get sex on demand it becomes as trivial as a handshake. But when they can't get it at all, well you know what they're willing to do...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:01 AM
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OK I can respect that. I have good news for you, a GPT-like model should be able to pass a Turing test to fit your girlfriend needs in the very near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:50 AM
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Liberation through technology or extinction are the only ways out. I'm an optimist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:37 AM
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I think the only reason men are capable of putting their possessiveness drive in neutral for casual sex is that they don’t think about her being with other men or prefer to assume she isn’t. Not really actually. Most men are intrinsically aroused by images of women in the presence of (large) penises. It is undoubtedly a competitive response but the result is that many men are quite capable of enjoying a female with their friends or even sharing their mates. In some pre-patriarchal cultures broth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:31 AM
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So she's right. Your ideal partner is a female body with a male's mind and male hormones. I don't need to point out why that's an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:22 AM
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And honestly, i rarely see men actually help men just because he is a fellow man. Men are men's worst enemy. Take the radically different places lesbians occupy within womanhood vs. gay men within manhood in modern countries. Gay guys love men and maleness more than any other group on Earth. As punishment, straight men's favorite pastime across dozens of cultures seem to be finding creative ways to torture and murder them. I love men but I worry for their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:11 AM
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No, he's right. Gender differences in automatic in-group bias: why do women like women more than men like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:53 AM
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The only people that are attracted to men the same way straight men are to women are homosexual males.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:32 PM
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The reality is that you are just as picky as the people you criticize. We are all picky. You reject the overwhelming majority of those attracted to you just as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:08 AM
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Sex only counts if it's sex you want to be having. Which is why you are posting on Reddit right now instead of getting your dick sucked. No one cares how many unattractive people are into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:55 AM
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OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:05 AM
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I'm literally telling you that there's a likely at least one private gloryhole in your town. Just go in, flop your dong out and get blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:03 AM
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Women have an edge, but it's not a massive one once you take into account personal preference. You didn't answer my question: why don't you visit the local gloryhole?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:36 PM
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don't live in the us You can get head in freaking Saudi Arabia. I'm starting to think that your problem is that you're just sexually sheltered. You tell me your region and I could find a local site with at least a dozen active ads seeking an oral top within ten minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:16 PM
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You could if you wanted. You expect women to lower their standards and have bad sex, why don't you do the same? There's dozens of open gloryholes in every midsize city in the US. You could be balls deep in a throat right now instead of arguing over penile ratios on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:09 PM
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Guys with small ones can't. No girl that would just give anyone a bj after some talking in a dating app would do that for a guy like me. Yeah, that's how the sexual market works. You've been priced out of enthusiastic sex with most cis women. On my side I've been priced out of my own dating market by younger, more beautiful bottoms. Or would have been if I hadn't gotten married. But neither you nor I have no access to sex whatsoever. We have access to shitty sex, like most other people. We're al…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:02 PM
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because NO GIRL IS INTO SMALL ONES. No women you're attracted are into small ones. And that might actually be the case. It sucks when your two choices are to have sex with people that are attracted to you but that you're not attracted to or that you're into but don't like you. Where you lose the plot is assuming everyone else, including women, aren't in the same exact spot. We're all having to make that choice. As I told the other guy, you could go on double list right now and get an hour long B…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:53 PM
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That is the point. There's more people out there that find you attractive than you could ever hope to have sex with. Just like women. And just like them, you don't feel they're attractive enough for you. This is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:34 PM
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So you don't believe you could go on doublelist right now and get a blowjob?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:32 PM
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Besides, it's not like you measured your partners, did you? It gets pretty easy to gauge after you've seen hundreds far closer and longer than any uncomfortable lab technician. You seem to be really hung up on this subject and it makes me sad. I guarantee you that your penis is perfectly suited to it's purpose. Millions of dick lovers around the world would be happy to worship it. Don't emasculate yourself like this. I know firsthand it's hard to maintain a positive image of oneself when all of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:57 PM
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You literally said "studies doesn't matter, my experience told me other stuff Yes. I've had sex with a large cohort of men from as random a subject group as you could ever want. Men are much smaller than the porn ideal but typically not uniformly so. There's crazy diversity of shape in human penises than never make it into porn because guys are embarrassed about their genitals but they'll gladly get blown at an anonymous gloryhole. And with how many small did you hookup repitedly? Dozens? The fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:29 PM
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I bet he is not. You said 5x5 is your average Is the real average. Research data is not fine enough to put a number on things like guys with thin shafts but huge cockheads, or long, thin dicks etc. The average penile volume is around 5x5. It evens out even more if you count balls and guys with huge balls and small dicks are both common and hot as fuck. We were talking about hookups to begin with I have a XXX body count. Maybe even XXXX tbh. 🍆♂️💛💦
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:05 PM
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You wouldn't give a smaller guy a chance irl My husband is probably smaller than you. I'd bet I've been with guys at least two inches smaller than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:33 PM
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Do you agree that it’s much easier for women to have casual sex? It’s a simple question. No. I literally said you could have someone swinging on your dick in 5 minutes if you wanted. This is a fact. This is reality for the overwhelming majority of men in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:31 PM
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Girls don't hookup with guys with small penises Maybe but that's not the same thing. I said you could have sex on demand. But not with who you want to. And you didn't meant what you said Of course I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:20 PM
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Whatever the reason, it just supports the fact that a woman of average attractiveness (i.e. mode of the attractiveness distribution) has a WAY EASIER time (as measured by relevant metrics like effort, rejection rate, etc) banging and having casual sex than a man of average attractiveness. The average woman is repulsed by the average man. To them it's in the same league of desirability as prison sex for men. You could get a blowjob from an eager guy in 5 minutes. Does that feel like privilege to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:18 PM
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Lol no I literally said I'd suck your dick bruh. You could get on any one of a dozen apps right now and get a blowjob in 20 minutes. That's sex on demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:06 PM
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Yep, but people still have a preference, and that preference is not people like me. Once again, that's true for most of us. The people we want don't want us back. That's the universal human experience when it comes to sex except for a very tiny sliver at the top of hierarchy, maybe. But you can absolutely find someone that will love your penis. Easily. Btw, 5 inches of girth is massive. Check your sources again. Sources? This is just my personal experience. Men have incredibly diverse penis shap…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:18 PM
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People like me were not meant to hookup, or have sex My previous partners wouldn't agree with that. I don't agree with that either, I think all men are worthy of love and pleasure. Yeah... Take that and lower your expectations. Most guys are 5x5". You can have mind-blowing sex with much smaller dicks than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:49 PM
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And I'm not exactly blessed down there. Most guys aren't in my experience. They still taste good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:26 PM
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I mean, I wouldn't literally travel to wherever you are in the world just for dick. That's crazy. But if it slapped me on the face I wouldn't say no. No offense but has it never occurred to you that some people actually enjoy penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:11 PM
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Just proving a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:03 PM
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Where do you live, I'll come suck your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:58 PM
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Super easy for the average women, much harder for average man. It's not easier for an woman to bang someone they want because their standards are overwhelmingly higher than men's. They can choose to have imperfect sexual contact with people they're not necessarily turned on by, just as you or anyone else can. The average woman desires the average man as much as a drunk guy wants that crossdresser behind a dumpster at 3 in the morning... There's a reason drinking and drug use is so strongly linke…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:57 PM
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You can have sex with someone you don't find hot at any time. So can virtually every other person. We're quite equal in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:46 PM
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I said humans, not women. I never made any claims about specific sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:45 PM
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I was alluding to the fact that it’s much easier for women to bang someone. It's easy for anyone to bang someone, but banging someone that you want to bang is not easy for anyone. This is a reality for the hottest girl as it is for the lamest incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:45 AM
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but nothing beats having someone to bang who also gives a fuck about you. if they’re hot, fit and attractive The statement you are mocking above applies to almost every person Earth, specially the guys. Humans are very social creatures with odd needs to thrive; intimate contact is one of those needs for many of us. I believe many of us would benefit from authentic and caring sexual contact with another person, even if it's imperfect. That's the point OP was making, I think: regardless of your ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:48 AM
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Casual sex is available to all, at any time. Just not the kind you, specifically, might want to be having; this is true for people in every rung of the social hierarchy and for every sex, gender and orientation. Not everyone is equally picky and a lot of people have fetishes and preferences specifically for things others find ugly or strange. The world of sex is wild and strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:31 AM
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Human tastes are diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:17 AM
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Men are the same or better than they've been historically. But somehow they're responsible for the ongoing collapse of our civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:03 PM
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I feel so sorry for straight men. 😓
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:29 PM
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It's kinda undisputed that in a typical hetero relationship My point is women might do more things but that doesn't necessarily translate into more work. I've personally seen wives get angry with men because they don't want to do shit after coming home from roofind all day, some of the most dangerous and backbreaking work of the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:54 PM
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I've got no bone in this fight but from my observations cishet women typically have much higher standards than men, understimate the physical toll of male work and are all around harder to please. Just looking at the lives of my high school buddies, I wouldn't trade my husband for a wife in a million years regardless of the social benefits. Women claim they do more work. Has anyone actually bothered to measure this in any meaningful manner e.g. calories spent, distance walked, weight lifted etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:05 PM
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yeah that’s not easy at all. Many of them wish they were straight in that regards. Nah. Gay men aren't jealous of straight men, they're jealous of the women that get to fuck and marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:41 AM
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Duh, black's literally in the title. Wait what's pink? 🌺
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:19 AM
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I can't keep track of all these pills... Red Blue Purple White Any more?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:40 AM
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Men want women. Women want attention. In our ancestral environment men's sexual interest was axiomatic so women have not had to compete for men's sexuality to the same extent, competing for their time instead. It's a vital difference. As the state has replaced husbands and fathers as provider, for the first time in thousands of years since the advent of agriculture, women as a class no longer need individual men. The result is that they're now only having as much sex as they want, and only with …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:28 PM
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If men treated women like they treat each other women wouldn't be able to tolerate existence. What is it lefties say: when you're privileged equality looks like discrimination?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:33 PM
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The countries where you'd want immigrants from are experiencing child busts too. There's a reason immigration from Mexico to the US has basically stopped. More and more countries are running into the demographic wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:25 PM
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Masculinity is earned. It's a status conferred by other men and can also be revoked. There's a reason so many traditional cultures have rites of passage for males, such as circumcision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:21 PM
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The extended family is the natural human social unit. Everything else is cultural engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:00 PM
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Millennials are a huge generation. We will monopolize American culture almost as much as the Boomers did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:58 PM
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