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CMVCyclone619y2j/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:37 PM
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Question For WomenCyclone619y2j/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:34 PM
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Cyclone619y2j/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:20 PM
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Question For WomenCyclone619y2j/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 07:08 AM
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Cyclone619y2j/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:29 PM
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And definitely do not pay attention to the guys telling you to just be yourself, be genuine why?
/r/seduction29/01/20 03:12 AM
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And here's the kicker----I still look better than you lol. It's not projection. I can see that you look like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:26 PM
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I'd still rather be a manlet than look like that. You look like a failed attempt at cloning a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:26 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/0lmdBF5.jpg Soy boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:13 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/0lmdBF5.jpg Dude, you literally look retarded. Your mother must have drank a lot of that Chinese beer since you look like you've got FAS
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:12 PM
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There's nothing for me to do about it. There's nothing I CAN do about it. You don't get it. It doesn't matter what you do if you're short. You lose either way. I've seen successful short guys who are well rounded. They are still miserable. Women still don't like them and only want their money so they can run off with a taller hot guy behind their back. People still ridicule them and make fun of them for being short. Our life will always be garbage. There's no escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:09 PM
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It's not about crying, it's that you couldn't fathom what short guys go through. You don't understand. You don't see what they are going through. On top of that, we have to deal with people who lie about it and trivialize it. But you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that height isn't a factor even then. There's clear evidence everywhere showing it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:07 PM
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Get real. You have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:05 PM
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All it takes is for me to lie about my height on dating sites to go from zero matches to a dozen matches. But no, height is apparently an individual preference that some women only care about. You're out of touch buddy. Anecdotes are not evidence. I don't give a single shit about 'guys you know'. Lots of people exist. It's not anecdotes. There is more evidence to support what I'm saying than what you are saying. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/ You are generalizing and generalizations …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:04 PM
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I'm not talking about age. My point is that bullshit about womens preferences being so unique is nonsense. The only women who don't care are the ones who can't afford to care about it. Height is a universally attractive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:46 PM
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You're on truefemcels. You perfectly prove my point. You don't care about height because you can't afford to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:42 PM
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This is just definitely not one of them and the height narrative here is so silly to me. It's silly to you because you haven't experienced what short guys go through. And you also have ZERO empathy. The narrative on the other side is what is stupid. Height is a CRITICAL factor and short guys understand that better than anyone. How would you even know it's importance?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:41 PM
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B I L L I O N S of women exist. Are you saying there is no variety there at all? ALL of them think exactly the same way and think the exact same things are attractive? Tall is a universally attractive trait. It's like ice cream flavors. something as complex as attraction. LMAO. It's not complex at all. Any guy I know who is above 6 feet , has broad shoulders, and a strong jawline instantly gets pussy. It's very simple. Have the right physical traits and you get laid regardless of how much you la…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:39 PM
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Hey look another white knight who whines and comments anyway. And then complains about being subbed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:34 PM
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People's preferences vary. Their natural preferences really don't. Women who claim to not care about height are only doing it because they can't afford to care about it. If that same women got plastic surgery, big tits, big ass, and liposuction, you'd see her preferences change.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:33 PM
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. Women don’t do that. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:31 PM
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People forget how much women bully men that are not attractive. Women are only pretending like angels around guys they deem to be somewhat attractive. They are horribly mean towards guys like him. The lack of compassion from women in this thread/sub perfectly demonstrates that. They are definitely the same women would be laughing at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:11 PM
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when the fact of the matter is that hardly anyone gives a shit. That's so easy of you to say when you're not in our position. Women have ZERO empathy. They don't know how much shit short guys deal with. I know it doesn't suit your agenda but trust me, they DO laugh at short guys. I've experienced it and observed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:09 PM
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And he will be ridiculed regardless of his behaviour. I totally believe they were laughing at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:03 PM
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Asking people here is pointless. Never listen to what women say, look at what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:43 PM
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Women are definitely more stringent. They won't even date a guy if he's not tall enough, REGARDLESS of his other traits. Men don't do that with breasts, height, ass, or any trait with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:55 PM
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So much dishonest garbage here. Trust me. As a short guy, people do laugh at you and smirk at you. I've seen them do it it to me and others. What is it about women laughing or smirking that sets some guys off? I've seen plenty of women laugh or smirk before, and I've never the ego to think it was about me. So, maybe it's an ego thing? No, you're not in his shoes. He's dealt with that his whole life. When you deal with it forever, you're conditioned to assume people are laughing at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:52 PM
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Absolutely. Voice is very important to women. I've never cared about a womens voice but women are very picky and superficial when it comes to mens voices. It's that whole stupid hollywood bad boy stuff that they are obsessed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:47 PM
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Yeah, and bitchy Stacy gets plenty of male attention even though she’s an insufferable cunt. So what? You think only women are shallow? You think that there aren’t guys lined up to try to get with vapid airhead women? YOU suggested that his height was not the problem and that it's his personality. You're making a Tu Quoque fallacy. His personality is not the reason because there are plenty of tall guys with douchey personalities and they get laid all the time. In his case, it's mainly his height…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:46 PM
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I think as a short guy I would know better than you do. Everyone who has made mean comments about my height has been a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:25 PM
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Absolutely not. The body positivity movement is for women only. Women want it to center around them because they want the media to portray fat women in an attractive light so Chads can be drawn to them. They absolutely are not including short men in there. It goes against their agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:24 PM
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Being defeated is far more unattractive than being short. That's bullshit. I know plenty of tall, buff guys with shitty personalities. They still get pussy. I have a 5'3 friend who is full of life, very well-rounded. He gets ZERO pussy. Height is a requirement. It doesn't matter what else you have if you don't meet the requirement. I'm not saying personality isn't important. But people like you who have zero understanding and compassion don't get it. Short guys develop these personalities AS A R…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:18 PM
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First of all, YOU suggested that terrible personality is the reason why short guys are unattractive. That's bullshit because there are plenty of tall buff guys who are douchebags but get PLENTY of pussy. The same guy who bullied me got girls all the time. Personality is not the main reason why a 5 feet tall guy is doing poorly with women. It's height. If he was 6 feet tall, he could act like a douche all day and get women. Yep, every single woman will get uglier, no sarcasm. So? Stay single and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:12 PM
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Do you check and make sure porn stars are sweet girls who love puppies and send money to their grandma before beating off? That analogy doesn't even work. I would not date a pornstar, wheras women were desperate for Meeks. A billionaire heiress and some other celebrity dated him. Sounds like “I deserve a woman with a higher smv than my own” to me. In that case, better learn to play lead guitar. No it means that relying on SMV is dumb because women who look better than men in their 20s, usually d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:55 PM
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No it can't be overwritten. Much rather have a hot and interesting short dude than a tall plain boring dude. That's not true for most women and even then, it's stupid to suggest it because the short guy would never get that first chance anyway. Most short guys can't even get their foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:28 AM
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No. The women on reddit say "height isn't that important". They downplay it's importance and trivialize what short guys go through. You're just one outlier. The trend is still against short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:27 AM
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I don't have all the money in the world to find the right therapist. I've already had five and spent more than I could afford. I appreciate you giving me your perspective. But society and women absolutely are my enemy. These same women are on twitter shaming short guys. Or trivializing the shit that short men deal with. The same guy who bullied me? Women LOVED him. There was that incident with the bagel boss guy yesterday. You wouldn't believe how many women were making height jokes and being co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:25 AM
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5'6 and below
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:16 AM
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The twitter girl you linked is obviously talking about a specific and personal situation. It sounds like she was into a "short" guy who dicked her over and now she is bitter. Really, her post points toward a man's height not mattering so much if you read between the lines. She says in her next comment that she's never dated a guy under 6 feet. The attitude and personality of such men holds them back. It makes no difference if you don't meet a women's height requirement. I've never expressed this…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:16 AM
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Height affects it FAR more It's the reason why so many women were swooning over Jeremy Meeks even though he was a convicted criminal who assaulted a teenage boy. Height is a requirement. No amount of personality can make up for it if the requirement is not met. The idea of matching your SMV is stupid. Women don't even age as well which also makes SMV a questionable indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:13 AM
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It absolutely always matters. A lot of women have height requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:04 AM
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Ball shaped women are fat fucking lazy slobs. Even then, they can go on tinder and do MUCH better than a short guy can. But I know plenty of flat skinny girls who do very well with men despite not having a voluptous frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:04 AM
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I can think of two guys off the top of my head who are 5'3 or less who get plenty of action. I can think of two who, despite being very well-rounded, get ZERO action. I can think of plenty of more douchey guys who get plenty of action. The same guys who bullied me were drowning in pussy. I already spent thousands on therapy. IT's a stupid exercise. They want you to accept your mediocre shithole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:01 AM
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It's much more important that WTH ratio. Men won't disqualify women based on WTH ratio. Women will completely disqualify a guy if he's not tall enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:19 AM
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No, people in my country. Not piss poor countries with poverty and malnutrition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:18 AM
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Preferences with height go towards a certain trend. It's not varied like other preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:16 AM
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Absolutely. Those same women who say it's because of his personality will date a douchey 6 feet tall guy with a criminal history who treats people like trash. It's completely virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:16 AM
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Absolutely false. That analogy is wrong in so many ways. There are many men that like small breasts over big ones. There are hardly any women who prefer short men over tall men Women also have height REQUIREMENTS. Men don't have boob requirements at all. If you don't meet a women's height requirement, she will not date you no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:14 AM
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Dude, let's be real. We all know that's never happening. Look at how much ridicule short men can when talk about their struggles. Women and taller men, who have NO fucking clue what it's like, mock us all the time. You really expect male positivity movements to work? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:11 AM
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I don't live in those countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:09 AM
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Ya she's arrogant but she has no filter and these kinds of women say what women actually feel. Women aren't sexually attracted to short men. Some women on reddit won't admit that and will attack men who complain about it, but it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:08 AM
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It's super obvious to me. Women want the body positivity movemet for women because they want the media to present fat girls in an attractive manner. Why? Well fat girls don't like fat guys. They still want hot guys to like them. So they want the body positivity movement to focus and center around them. They despise short men and don't want them to gain and leverage, not just with dating but in society. You would be amazed how rude women are to short men We are victims for them because they like …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:03 AM
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at different people like different body types? That's not the case. Most people are drawn to a particular body type. There aren't just as many people that are drawn to George Constanzas body type as Chris Hemsworths body type. Look at the vast range of taste and opinions people have about breast-size Example doesn't work with height. Women like average height and above. Rarely do women prefer short. I don't even know why I have to prove this, there are studies clearly showing women prefer taller…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:00 AM
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I don't think it's fun or just triggering though. It's done because they have a superiority complex and like to put people down. Studies show that women like to be mean towards less attractive men. I've faced that my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:57 AM
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Because women want to hide the fact that it is important while also attacking men who complain about it. It's a win for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:54 AM
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There are plenty of women who don't obsess over six foot dudes, but you know what's super fuckin' unattractive? You see this is the problem. People who aren't short men don't get it. You're already disqualified as a short guy. It won't make a difference if you had a good attitude. online dating is a cesspool of people at their most shallow and So what? Online dating is where dating is going. It's super common now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:51 AM
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So what? The trend is always this on twitter. You don't see the opposite view by women. I've never seen one girl on twitter say we should stop body shaming men. Twitter is far closer to my IRL experiences. Women really are that nasty towards shorter men as is the the rest of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:43 AM
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It's not a conspiracy, but they feel better about themselves ridiculing short men. Also, studies show that women feel better about themselves after rejection by an attractive male, BY being mean towards less attractive men. They do it to make themselves feel better. Then they all trivialize anything the short men complain about because that doesn't suit their body shaming narrative that is catered towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:37 AM
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Not a used up whore who settles after she is done having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:35 AM
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Maybe take your own advice and don't whine. You don't like my post? Leave
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:32 AM
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It's women on twitter who do this. Besides, she has 16K likes and a large crowd of women supporting this view. Most young women endorse this. They want short men to remain undesirable and ridiculed but still make it so that fat shaming is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:31 AM
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A Twitter thread were some women say no one under 6 feet and short guys with complexes say SEE ITS WOMEN! Just look at twitter in general. It's not one women, have a look for yourself. She also has 16K likes Height does matter but not to the extent you see it talked about on incel subs. Bullshit. I do expermient on OKcupid where I adjust my height. I go from no matches to instant matches immediately. Height is by the far most important trait in the sense that if you don't meet a minimum height r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:25 AM
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This is insanely obvious. Women sleep with all the men they are sexually attracted to BEFORE marriage. Than they marry the dope who is "their best friend" for his money and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:23 AM
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Easy for you to say if you're not in that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:14 AM
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No, because women on reddit like to wave it off or trivialize it so they could shame men. You think as a short guy you're going crazy because you hear two opposite messages. Women on reddit lie. You know why? Because when I adjust my height on OKcupid, I suddenly start getting matches. Women on reddit want only fat shaming to be the central topic of discussion. The same girls who say we need to stop fat shaming are the same ones who attack short guys on twitter trivialize their struggle on reddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:13 AM
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Can't be changed either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:39 PM
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Introversion and inhibition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:33 PM
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Mods are literally banning any post that isn't pro-bluepill now. I don't get it. Isn't this a debate of many sides? I made two posts about sexual attractiveness and it gets banned for incel content. What? Talking about sexual attractiveness is not incel. The problem is that the bluepill camp will call anything they don't agree with "incel"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:11 PM
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Do you want to have an actual relationship? Not if I'm not sexually attractive. I'd rather be sexually desirable and without a relationship than be a financial provider who women want after they've had their sexual fun with the hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:59 PM
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Most of them who are charismatic are also attractive physically. The Rock for example. He can never be him if he was a short weak-framed guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:57 PM
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I have dates short guys with great personalities...but yes. They had to work harder to get noticed. One of them was 5’3...as tall as me. So yes...I made decisions based on visual data, but I will still arrive that men are more visual. Not just that, but the short guy wouldn't be as sexually attractive. A lot of women will date a short but they'd rather not have a ONS with him. The swooning over an actor on tv is frequently a peer pressure thing Not what I;m talking about. I'm referring to hot gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:54 PM
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Ya but my point is that face> everything else is not true. If you need a 9/10 face to be more attractive than a 5/10 face guy, it means that other physical attributes are even more important. Height, frame, masculinity are more important imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:27 PM
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True. Also, a lot of women like a deep voice or a 100% always confident attitude. But most men don't have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:25 PM
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How? My views are rooted in reality. I don't care about the incel tribe. I'm debating this from the viewpoint that I think is correct. I haven't seen evidence to contradict this. What am I saying that is incel? I'm saying that short guys with weak frames are not going to be sexy. They are more likely going to be long-term partners. Incels actually insist that you will always be alone if you're short. I disagree. I'm saying you won't be sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:23 PM
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Masculinity is sort of imperfect in itself. I don't want this, I want this With all due respect, you are clearly in the minority or maybe not sexual at all. Not a single one of the guys on /r/ladyboners looks like that second guy.. We are not as visual as men in that it doesn't turn us on as much, or attract us as much as it does for men. I haven't seen any evidence to show that. Even than, it's part of the selection criteria. That second guy the is what women might settle with but that first gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:20 PM
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Online dating is pointless unless you are a tall, attractive, buff, white guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:12 PM
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Yes. Face > everything else. Tell that to my 5'3 friend. I know plenty of ugly tall buff guys who do better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:11 PM
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It all depends on masculine vs pretty and short term vs long term For sex, women don't care about pretty. They mainly like hyper-masculine men, tall, broad, strong chiseled jawline. For LTR, women might prefer pretty a bit more. They also value personality traits for LTR but mainly because they want a good well-trained provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:10 PM
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Oh come on. PUA culture is such a marketing scam. If a short guy with shit frame touches a woman, she will call police. There's nothing inherently turn-off about being short. What? This is just delusional. Try being a short guy on dating apps. Women won't want you unless you lie about your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:56 PM
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but I won’t sleep with him until I know him personally. That only means you are more picky. But in that case physical traits are still the disqualifier. If a man doesn't have those physical traits, he's never sexually Do you have some more research you can share? You don't need to see research. Just look at women's actions? Who are the guys they tend to swoon over? I don't see women going crazy over short guys with good personalities. It's mainly buff 6 feet tall guys. Women who do watch porn te…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:53 PM
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Doubt. Otherwise dead bedrooms wouldn't be so common. Most women won't do the kinky stuff they did with their STRS/ONS as they would with their long term partner. It's because one is more sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:38 PM
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You literally just said you like BD porn. Which most women do. That's why it's the most on of the most searched term by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:35 PM
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Ok but how are women less visual. They look at guys with hot bodies and big dicks. I would argue that women are not as horny as men are. But when they want sex, they are just as visual. . I am actually unattracted to someone who looks too "pretty". Also, this shows that you don't get what I'm talking about. I already know that women don't care about pretty. I've been described as a pretty boy before. I know that what is sexually attractive to women is mainly height, frame, strong jawline, dick s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:34 PM
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They're banning you for incel views. They are not incel views. They are reality. A lot of people here will agree with me. Source : Guy who punches way the fuck out of his league. Behavior (frame) makes a big difference. Having strategy etc. What does that entail? Again, I'm talking about sexual attractiveness. I know a lot of guys end up in a relationship as her personal dud, but that doesn't make him sexually attractive. She'd rather being banging a tall, buff guy with a big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:29 PM
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You've never had a girlfriend and yet you're trying to tell people how women work. Ok but I can easily observe from their behaviour what they like. Just look at ladyboners. There aren't many short, narrow, weak chin guys on there. It's clear that there are physical requirements for what women find sexually attractive. Women are not visual in the same way as men are. I How so? Why are they going on ladyboners or searching big dick porn if they aren't visual? Why do women on social media swoon ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:24 PM
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You contradict yourself though. You say it's nicer to see a big dick but women don't care? Bigger dicks make men more sexually attractive. Just like height, frame, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:21 PM
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But an otherwise attractive and attentive man is not going to be rejected by the vast majority of women just because he is less than 6 inches I never said that either. But's it's one of the main features that makes men sexually attractive. Sure a tall guy with a good frame who has an average dick can still be somewhat sexually attractive but only be because he has other physical traits. If you lack the physical traits, you can't be sexually attractive no matter what. Also, women would still much…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:19 PM
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Yes, but that does not mean women are less visual. Women just spend less time thinking about sex. When it comes to sexual attraction, women are just as visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:17 PM
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Yes, but this is a minority of women. Most women won't be turn on sexually without the right physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:16 PM
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It doesn't matter, it's more sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:14 PM
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But emotional and other factors feed in as well. But most of the sexual attraction is comproiised of physical traits. A short guy with an average dick and a poor frame won't be sexually attractive no matter what he does emotionally. I like that graphic but isn't relevant. There are physical traits that will completely disqualify guys from being sexually attractive. Sure a tall, buff guy who smells like shit might be a turnoff. But a short guy, with an average dick, poor frame will never be a tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:13 PM
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Women are visual...just not as visual as men. Women’s porn is mostly written while men’s porn is mostly visual. I don't agree with this because women like to read more so of course men won't consume written porn as much. Also women absolutely watch porn. 33% of pornhub viewers are women. Also, most common searched terms tend to include big dick. because women do look at visual porn from time to time doesn’t mean they are as visual as men When it comes to who they find sexually attractive, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:09 PM
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The discussion is about what is sexually attractive to women. Well of the sexual stuff women look at, these are the things they focus on. There seems to be this idea amongst some here that women are not visual. And that they would only like adult novels. But that's not true. Women are just as visual as men. And they emphasize physical traits just like men do. Men like big asses. Women like big dicks. Men like curves, women like broad shoulders. Women are just as visual and in order to be sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:06 PM
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In my experience, there is nothing a meh looking woman can do to excite me with emotional tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:04 PM
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But does that make him sexually attractive or just emotionally attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:03 PM
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Umm if thats the case, why do women visit mainly big dick subs on reddit? Also, big dick is one of the most popular term searched by women on pornhub
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:42 PM
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I work out but there's nothing stopping most fat woman from hooking up with a 6 feet tall chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:29 PM
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Lol this trope is getting really tired. All the women on this sub say this but outside of this sub, it's a completely different story. If this was true, there would be more non-conventional looking guys presented in posters, ad, or sexual subreddits. Women don't want to see that though. They want to see jacked, 6 feet tall guys, with big dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:28 PM
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Oh I'm sure some women don't care for a RELATIONSHIP. But in terms of sexual attractiveness, they absolutely care. The only case where they don't care at all is if she's not a sexual woman at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:25 PM
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I don't know the percentages but I remember there was a thread asking women which was their favorite porn subs and they mainly said those two.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:23 PM
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Fat women can get Chads if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:22 PM
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If the woman finds you attractive she will make it obvious and you can't fuck it up. Wrong. NOTHING else matters. Not your confidence, not what you say, not how funny you are Wrong. I agree with negging and PUA tricks being stupid. But confidence, extroversion, sense of humour, social dominance absolutely matter. If she is attracted to you she will be open to converse then date/have sex with you, if not, the conversation dies. You've never seen a hot guy with aspergers or poor sociability? They …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:14 AM
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No, that study says very attractive men have the highest chance of forming a sexual relationship quickly. Yes but it didn't adress personality traits. It just compared hot guys to average looking guys IN GENERAL. It didn't necessarily prove your point. Of course you would take en empirical study...one of many such studies....with a grain of salt, because it refutes your worldview. But it didn't prove your point. Cool regarding mass vs pretty boy...the literature says otherwise. Attractive is att…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:12 AM
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All men like boobs but not every girl has considerable. There are men that prefer or like small tits. That doesn't exist with short men. Also, it's not comparable because women will outright disqualify short guys. Men don't disqualify women based on tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:18 AM
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Disagree. There are gradations. A 6'3, broad, hypermasculine guy is much hotter than a 5'10, fit, somewhat masculine guy. Even if both are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:29 AM
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Such BS. There's a fucking study showing that 80% of men are considered unattractive by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:21 AM
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physically dominating presence esp OVER me social mastery of the group I'M a part of What do these mean? Could you give examplse?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:10 AM
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I think we all like a little height (5'10 and up). Lol, how delusional. So 50% of men are practically disqualified and people think that women like a broader range of attractiveness. If anything, it shows that men like a broader range of beauty since both tall, medium, and short girls are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:09 AM
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You don't have any evidence for this. The fact that 80% of men are considered unattractive by women proves this is wrong. Women are pickier and only date ugly guys for resources not because they find them sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:05 AM
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i can't think of a single guy that the vast majority of women would say is "very attractive. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Brad Pitt. He's hot to most women. If you're a tall, masculine, broad male, you will be attractive to most women. Men definitely have broader interest. work off of a more binary scale of 0 or 1 in my experience Not true, otherwise women wouldn't be hypergamous. A lot of girls will leave a 5'10 guy for a 6'2 guy. Why? Because it's not binary, there are gradations of attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:52 PM
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which includes personality, i.e. not being a 'bad boy. Don't listen to what women say, see what they do. Yes, introvert girls will like guys like that. Extrovert girls will only like betas once they've had their fun. BTW, I looked at that study and it absolutely does not prove your point. It merely says that physically attractive men get more sex. There is nothing that suggests that beta male hot guys guys get more sex than bad boy hot guys. It mentions little about masculinity, bad boy traits, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:39 PM
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facial adiposity is more correlated with attractiveness than masculinity and give or take about as much as symmetry. I'd like to see a source for this. I totally disagree. It's only attractive to a certain extent. Obese people look like shit of course but people in the normal body fat range won't look better by getting even leaner. Hell sometimes, they will look worse. Not all women like bad boys. For STRs, it's better to be a bad boy. I bet this apparent preference for bad boys would vanish Def…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:19 PM
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Some guys will simply not being sexually attractive. One reason is that sexy features like height, strong jawline, wide shoulders cannot be obtained. Leanness is definitely not sexy if you lack muscle or the right frame. I'm lean but with a narrow frame, I look like shit. Furthermore, women like bad boys. Bad boys are sexy to them. Nerds are not sexy. Even if they don't want that in a relationship, bad boys are what women desire sexually. Lastly, women who wants STRs tend to be a particular type…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:05 PM
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Because being sexually attractive is important as a man. You want women to sexually desire you, not just see you as a provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 10:57 PM
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It's horrible advice because response to training is highly genetic. A lot of it also just has to do with frame. Some just look better with muscle than others. If everyone could have massively wide shoulders than yes it would be great advice because that is what women are sexually attracted. Most guys at the gym don't look that good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 10:54 PM
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It's not really easy to measure but simply the amount of attraction to men based on purely physical traits. To me it seems obvious, that women are not less visual because I've seen so many girls get turned on just by the sight of a hot guy. I can tell easily from their reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:57 PM
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Fuck no. Women who look like that have even higher standards than the skinny girls. Skinny women aren't hot anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:26 PM
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Or maybe there is nothing to suggest that women are less visual? What evidence do you have asides from erotica that women aren't as visual?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:25 PM
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We’re saying men’s attraction relies more heavily on the visual. That's completely untrue. I pay attention to womens' non-physical traits as well. No less than woman do. Both men and women rely main on visual, equally so. Also, why did this post get removed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:23 PM
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Untrue. A small short guy with poor frame will be unattractive regardless of vibe. Vibe is just how women rationalize it after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:14 PM
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Women settle in LTRs because they have to, Chad is not a safe option and will be more interested in plowing other women. Women only care about looks for short-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:13 PM
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Lot's of women watch porn. "Big dick" is also one of the most common searched terms by women. Women read erotica because women like to read more than man do. Even than the erotica is hyperfocused on physical traits so the women can easily visualize what the guys looks like. Tall, buff, hypermasculine, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:12 PM
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That's a brutally sad reality for any average man in a marriage right now. The realization that she would not have had a fling with him and would easily just other guys. I don't know how a man can live with himself in that situation. He's just an emotional and financial provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:08 PM
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Yes. I see no reason why it would be different. Honestly, the reaction women have to hot guys IRL is even more intense to how I see guys react to hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:06 PM
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No shit, because thats the whole point of that subreddit dude. Ya, what's your point? 33% of pornhub viewers are women. It's not really male porn site because plenty of women watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:05 PM
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I don't see many women going crazy for Jay Z honestly. The hoes in his circle might but that's because they want to be part of lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:00 PM
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If you're sexually desirable to women, you don't need personality. Personality only makes a man her personal jester. If women had their way, they absolute would still be fucking Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:58 PM
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Proof? Just look and listen at girls get thirsty when a hot guy walks by. That's evidence. As for static boners. Go to /r/ladyboners. Lots of women there go crazy over guys purely based on their physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:56 PM
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The celebs that women like are attractive because of their physical traits. Women don't give a shit about Danny Devito or Jonah Hill. But to pretend that women go crazy for Jason Mamoa because of things outside of his physical appearance is just BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:54 PM
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The majority are visual. You're probably in the minority or not a sexual person. I see so many woman at school, work, etc. getting thirsty for guys they don't even know purely based on physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:52 PM
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For a woman to maintain todays ideal of body beauty, she has to train Women CAN obtain the beauty standard. Most men absolutely can't unless they take steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 10:54 PM
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excessive hyperbole You definitely lack self-awareness. This is coming from someone who think watching calories is too much work. Men have to put in far more work than women do. Rare exceptions of that don't mean anything. Women only have to be lean. Men have to be buff and lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 10:45 PM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 09:25 PM
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Bull. Ever heard of the pareto principle? Ever notice how women are attracted to men that other women like. Women have more of a hive-mind than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 09:24 PM
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"losing weight" doesn't mean you have a flat stomach. If you're under severe stress or facing disease, probably not. And you don't need to eat that few because you're a man. Yes, bigger people eat. But guess what there are 6'8 men who are fat. Why because they eat too much for their size. You will be er have sympathy for women I will never in a million years have sympathy for women because how much fucking sympathy do they have for men? They expect guys to look buff with broad shoulders while st…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 09:22 PM
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due to Crohns disease and Ya, I wonder why you looked unfortunate. This doesn't apply to what we are talking about. Yah, because i want to live and enjoy life and never eating anything i like or enjoy sucks. Nobody said never, again you're doing restrictive dieting because you don't know how to properly diet. It was depressing, and HARD and took active conscious effort to deny myself of all those things that week. Imagine that while also having to put on 30 lbs of muscle. That's what men do. Rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 09:05 PM
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And most women aren't going to look like Megan Fox even if they literally starve themselves. I'm not talking about face, I mean physique. If you don't think women can look like that with some self-control, you probably lack self-control yourself. There is nothing inspirational about her physique. She's just thin. Such hyperbole. No women wouldn't look like that if they starved themselves, they'd look like a holocaust survivor. They would be even thinner than her. But if they didn't do a fad diet…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 08:39 PM
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You can call what I said pseudoscience but I’ll defer to the Ivy League educated nutritionists in my network. That absolutely makes no difference because what YOU said is absolute pseudoscience. You can't defer to them because you probably didn't really understand what they were saying. I can't expect you to perfectly understand what a supposed expert says. Why would that give you credibility, lol. I’ll also defer to Google and the infinite amount of research on biological and physiological diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 08:20 PM
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My ex is naturally 6’5 with a wider frame. Ya, that's an outlier so most men would have to do a shit ton of work whereas as some men would have to do some work. You’re here to be mad That's projection, you're mad because women can't be fat slobs with zero self control while getting credit for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 08:16 PM
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which requires some level of fitness activity outside of eating healthily. Lol, some. This is just so out of touch. And you wonder why men aren't impressed with the effort women put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:49 PM
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Her argument is that women are putting more effort than men think. My argument is that's bullshit. They think they are putting effort. self proclaimed fitness pedants And that would make you a self-proclaimed expert on metabolism and muscle physiology. I'm sorry but the pseudoscience you just throw out sounds like something one of my gymbros would say. The main reason women struggle with weight is because they follow stupid trends and don't actually read any of the scientific literature. Your ps…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:39 PM
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Ya I know but there's no way to remove the male comparison out of it because it still doesn't seem like effort to most men. Okay, great the 140 lb women has to put some effort, big fucking deal. It's nothing compared to what men have to do and that's why I will never have sympathy for women who are doing jackshit compared to me. What is a "doing a lot". By my metric, what women are doing ain't as much as what men need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:54 PM
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Can you blame me? Some girl literally just told me a minute ago about how I was mansplaining because I told her why drastically cutting calories with low protein, and tons of excess cardio will contribute to further weight problems. No one is talking about Chris Hemsworth. It's pertinent to the discussion because women DONT have it harder than man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:18 PM
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Everyone with common sense knows women’s bodies are made to store fat in ways men’s bodies are not; and that men’s bodies metabolize and build quick twitch muscle (muscle burns fat) in ways women’s bodies do not. Holy mother of self-serving feminist pseudoscience. Here's the reality. There are plenty of women who can get away with being chubby and still being hot. For most women, they can be appealing to men by simply not being obese. I know plenty of 160lb+ girls who would never date me and are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:03 PM
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they were murdering themselves trying to keep that 20 lb off Hyperbole. They were doing what any responsible person is expected to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:58 PM
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Ironically, this post perfectly proves the opposite of what she is trying to say. You really have no leg to stand on if you're bitching about no being able to guzzle as much alcohol or because you're ignorant about sauces/oils in salads having calories. Women really do have it easy. Meanwhile, most men are never going to look anything like Chris Hemsworth if they killed themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:53 PM
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What I'm doing is WORKING, Clearly it isn't, you wouldn't be bitching about it. Fuck off and go bang one of those super hot 160 lb women that are apparently so common. I could literally throw a rock and hit one of them. Most of them wouldn't fuck me because they are dating 6 feet tall buff guys. So you can't say I have low standards either. needs you to mansplain THERE IT IS. Fine keep looking the way you do and keep being miserable about it. But you've got no case to make about how it's difficu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:50 PM
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Actually you are in a rut. Most women who do things the right way can look hot at a heavier weight. But no, they go do stupid you tube routines. They don't enough protein, they don't take diet breaks. And they are left eating 1500 calories while still not looking they way they like. It could be easily circumvented.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:23 PM
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And again, I'm not trying to do the bare minimum of "not be obese," I want to actually look good for my husband and myself. Your low standards aren't my problem. I don't have low standards. To me face is more important. Ariana Grande is petit, but she looks like shit to me because of her face. Good for them. I don't. I look good at 120-125. I can't even imagine what I'd look like if I weighed 160lbs, I'd kill myself before I ever got to that point. You've muscle then. You've probably burnt it of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:09 PM
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People call me red pill and incel all the time. I never joined any of those but I naturally share their views. Only a minority of women want abs or 6 feet tall men. hahahaha, no. That's just delusional. Many women want a man that has good proportions of shoulders and hips, but that has a lot to do with posture. Posture won't make your clavicle grow wider. There's nothing that can be done. Women ABSOLUTELY prefer broader shoulders and more overall muscle. Studies have proven it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:59 PM
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"healthy" BMI, BMI don't mean shit. Waist circumference is the only valid indicator. I've seen women who are 160+ at 5'7 and they still look good. Of course, there is a limit. 200lb women aren't going to look good. Lol bullshit. Of course that's what women say, but what they do is different. Study after study shows women prefer the strongest men who also have good conditioning. All women need to do is not be an obese slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:57 PM
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Such BS. I've found women right up to size 14 attractive. Women expect the 6 feet tall guy with broad shoulders and washboard abs. That is 100x more difficult to obtain. No wonder so many guys are on steroids now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:43 PM
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Yes because that's what it takes to stay 120lbs at 5'7. Except most men don't expect a 5'7 women to be 120 lbs. Most men just expect women to not be a disgusting hambeast. Whereas women expect men to be 6 feet tall with abs, broad shoulders while having a large amount of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:41 PM
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That's just not true. Women simply need to not be fat. Whereas men have to put on muscle while not gaining too much fat, AND THEN lose fat without losing too much muscle. It's much more work given that they are practically paradoxical processes. All a woman needs to do is watch her calories. She doesn't even need to step inside the gym. st restaurants don't give nutrition information, and these days even salads are dangerously loaded with calories, so you can't even just make the healthy choice …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:37 PM
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Yes it is. An attractive women will not be physically attracted to an ugly guy. An ugly girl is more likely to be attracted to an ugly guy .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:40 AM
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I don't my wife to be fantasizing about other men. I don't want to have a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:23 AM
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Why would someone’s own attractiveness impact their attraction to others? Lol, what? Generally, more attractive people are attracted to more attractive people. An ugly girl will find an ugly guy attractive. Whereas as a beautiful girl would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:11 AM
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Just because you're less attractive from an objective standpoint doesnt mean that your wife sees it that way. That might be true but generally it's because she's ugly and from her point of view, you look good. The emotional connection factors into sexual attraction pretty heavily for some of us Disagree. Love can't make someone sexy. That's why dead bedrooms are common. One of the people in a relationships get fat, and is no longer sexy. The love is there, but there is no lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:07 AM
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Why wouldn't it. It's common sense. The more attractive a woman, the less attracted she is to a less attractive man and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:52 AM
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Yes but it depends on your husbands level of attractiveness compared to you. If you're both a 6/10. It's not a problem. But if you're a 8, and he's a 5, then you're probably not that sexually interested in him even if you are emotionally interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:48 AM
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The phrasing was off. She will, but if she's ugly enough, you won't seem undesirable to her. A woman whose slept with a 6 feet tall Chads, is never going to find her 5'5 boyfriend sexy. At least, an ugly girl will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:41 AM
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I'm sure both can and have gotten both. They are rich and famous. I used those examples only to give an idea of what they look like. So we can understand that IRL, women are more sexually attracted to masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:29 AM
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No I mean WOMEN prefer guys who are more masculine for short-term flings. They are more sexually attractive. I'm not sure if men actually behave that way if they are like that. That's not my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:20 AM
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Do steroids help get more pussy or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:15 AM
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Not true. I lust after Stacy but I don't love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:13 AM
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No I mean masculine faces. Studies show that generally women like a masculine face (strong jawline, strong brow, narrow eyes, wide nose, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:06 AM
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I can think of physically appealing men on either side or the spectrums you described. Yes, but isn't one more sexually attractive than the other. Let's give examples Hypermasculine- Jason Mamoa, Chris Hemsworth Pretty- Jared Leto, young Dicaprio Men who are in the masculine category are more short-term material because they are more sexually attractive. Would you agree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:04 AM
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So sexual attractiveness is not visual for you? It's more behaviour? But how do you know it's the behaviour that's attractive? Maybe the behaviour is only attractive because it's from a man you are already physically attracted to. Danny Devito or Jonah Hill could act confident but they still probably would not be sexy. If anything, it wouldn't even seem appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:42 AM
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Women will never love a man the way he loves a women. You will have to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:40 AM
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Because Chads don't have to buy the cow when the milk is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:36 AM
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I see women as gaming guys who are like me. They want the hot masculine guys for sex and they want me as an emotional and financial provider to settle with. I can't respect them based on this. It's probably just biology and can't be changed but I don't like that feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:34 AM
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That's not true. Studies show women rate the strongest men as most attractive. Some guys who have a good frame can simply get lean but for most guys, you have to put on some muscle before slimming down if you want to look "hot".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:11 AM
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Absolutely true. Most women themselves tend to be so afraid of lifting weights because they think you will accidentally blow up just by touching dumbbells. That's why they expect guys to have a Brad Pitt physique very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:09 AM
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NFL wide receiver. Tall, buff, broad, hypermasculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 02:58 AM
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It's not just that. It's that I'm bitter and cynical about women. When I was younger, there was this douchebag at work who used to bully me. He got plenty of attention from ALL the girls at work. It wasn't just the trashy girls but all the girls. They were always hovering around him despite that fact that he was a bully, he would sexually harass women, and do other douchey things.. Those experiences have made me so cynical. Made me feel like women just care about height/muscles. They are going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 01:32 PM
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How they won't like me either way. No woman ever talks to me or flirts with me. There is nothing I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 04:40 AM
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It's not just internet. I've heard what women IRL say. A lot of women say they have STR, ONS, FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 04:15 AM
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this totally detached thing, with total depravity from women based solely on a guy’s hotness, with the women not asking for any kind of commitment and doing any kinky thing he wants purely because of looks Isn't that what a ONS, FWB, STR is? I get the impression you don't think young women are not having sex with no strings. They definitely are though. often liked the random guy and hoped for more from him That is not true. I've heard many girls IRL and even on reddit say that she knew he was no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:58 AM
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In terms of sexual attraction, physicality is very important. In terms of emotional attraction, it may be less important. Women might marry the dad bod, but they don't lust after him like they would for a Tall, broad-shouldered, buff guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:44 AM
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no AF/BB. You literally described AF/BB. Women don't have much responsibility or worry for a relatinoship when they are young. They're not on the clock and don't have to worry about anything. So they fuck the Chads. When they're on the clock, they realize that Chad isn't the best long term partner and dupe some sorry dud who she thinks will be a more safe and tameable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:42 AM
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For women, absolute it does. It's a period where they are free from responsbility. So they don't care about the hard-working, intelligent, type of guys. They just want to have fun and fuck the tall buff quarterback. Once they are old and have been pumped and dumped by the quarterbacks, they are willing to settle with the guy who is less attractive but is more of a safe long term option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 12:36 AM
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It obviously happens but you have to atleast be tall, buff, facially attractive, white etc. I've never been approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 12:15 AM
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Absolutely. Women in their younger years are not tied to as much responsbility. They want to have fun so they are not going to give any time of day to guys that are LTR material. They mainly sleep with the studs. When they are done, they settle with the beta provider. Their best years are with alpha, their worst years are with the beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 12:14 AM
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😂 you must be young. This whole thick ass obsession is new to y’all. Black people been loving big booties for time. Clearly, you don't understand evolutionary psychology. Again, you're out of touch. women are sexually attracted to more types than your strict ‘masculine’ look I didn't say it's black and white. Not every women can fuck a Chad. But the ideal standard is the same archetype. Sure somen women might fuck a skinny tall guy. It doesn't mean she wouldn't rather fuck a tall buff guy. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:30 PM
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I didn't say it perfectly works this way. But this is the pattern that we should expect given the mating strategies of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:18 PM
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I don't give a shit what you think. You're at best giving me a view of YOUR sexuality, you can't speak for other women. You're just one woman on reddit (which already makes you not representative of women IRL) Research is more valuable information than your opinion. Real life isn’t doing the scientific method for everything and screeching about muh research or muh stats. You literally have no rebuttal for the research. None. The burden is on you to explain why your idiosyncratic view if more tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:08 PM
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You're ignoring the research which shows a clear preference for height and shoulder width. Those are clear signs that those traits are things women sexually prefer. You can't be an alpha is women clearly prefer several other men over you. A 5'5 scrawny guy can never be alpha. I don't think you know what alpha is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:56 PM
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I AND MANY WOMEN DATED SHORTER WIRY GUYS That doesn't mean that women necessarily found them very sexually desirable. They might've simply found them more trustworthy or cute. Also, what is your response to research that shows that women prefer taller and broader men, thats actual research from several women. Your facts are really the opinions of one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:53 PM
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why you’re so fixated on the gay male aesthetic It's not a gay male aesthetic because research shows that WOMEN prefer a broad shouldered guy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:13 PM
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Manlet is a man who gets too buff because he’s short, it’s a meme. That's gymcel. You didn't give a single fact. You gave at best your opinion and you didn't even justify that. What fact did you say? You're weaseling away because you have no counter argument
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:09 PM
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The responses in this thread make it very evident that's not the case. This over-reliance on what the media and social media present as sexually attractive leads to limited conclusions. It's not over-reliance on one thing. You're over-relying on what women on fucking reddit say. I'm basing my experience on social media, research, and IRL observations. all white people loved that shit in the 90's. That is just bullshit. Straight out of the ass bullshit. Honestly, a lot of black folks have more ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:00 PM
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Short guy=manlet. Women will take a skinny lean short guy with some scars and a cocky attitude over a try hard gym cel who’s trying to compensate for height. LMAO. How the hell does a women know if a guy is trying to compensate for his height by working out? Maybe he just likes working out? BTW, that's absolute bullshit since women will prefer muscles and research supports that. Even more hilarious is how a cocky guy gets a pass and is not perceived as overcompensating. But moving along. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:47 PM
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This is more of a black people thing on twitter. Hardly a dynamic that applies to the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:26 PM
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Barely. Women care about height much more than weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:23 PM
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That's a no brainer. For men. They are commiting to a woman (who other men have pumped and dumped for free) and she's more likely to initiate divorce and take majority of his belongings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:20 PM
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Bullshit, I can think of several tall,buff guys who absolutely continue getting hookups from girls who look like shit. Your friend is an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:18 PM
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There are absolutely hot alpha short skinny guys. Like who? No it's not mansplaining because even women will say one thing and do another. So listenining to what women THINK they like is often meaningless. I've learned that you have to observe womens actions not their words. Who do women generally find attractive? It's not scrawny manlets. Research even shows this. The research is more accurate. Explain to me how a short/skinny guy is just alpha as Jason Mamoa or the Rock? He's not, that's bulls…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:14 PM
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It's not projection, I'm straight. Why are you making bold claims about another man's sexuality? Because I'm making observations of what women actually like? All it takes is for me to observe what women like. Take a quick look on social media and you can see that women are generally swooning over the same type of guy. Women know what men like. They know that a flat ass isn't attractive so they workout. You don't need to be the opposite sex to know what the opposite sex likes. Hell, in evolutiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:47 PM
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You can't be Chad if you're short and skinny or not masculine. That's not hot and alpha. Being hot/alpha requires you have at least physical requirements I didn't say women because a lot of them will already admit to what I know. You might be in denial of it, but it's true either way. Even research shows that women are generally attracted to these kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:43 PM
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Huh. It's hard to be both, they are almost like opposing forces. Being nice/honest sort of kills the sex appeal. Also, whether women admit to it or not, the bad boy thing is still real. It's not just real in the teenage stage either. Lot's of women fuck convicts and criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:29 AM
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because he was this dad-type dude. What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:10 AM
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Skinny is not Chad. You got to be tall, buff, broad, masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:31 AM
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No it does not have to be some stereotypical “bad boy.” But yes being some pushover or something isn’t attractive either. Lol. What. You don't even know what you are talking about. Height, bone structure, shoulder width, jawline, etc. That's it, it's that simple. I've never been a pushover, it's never mattered. It's not hard for most men to not be pushovers. That's never going to be the deciding that sexually appeals to women because every guy can easily not be a pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:30 AM
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How am I dead wrong about hypermasculinity? Aren't most attractive men in hollywood like that? Jason Mamoa, Chris Hemsworth, Henry Cavill, The Rock, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:27 AM
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If a woman chooses a guy she never would've fucked 15 years ago for a LTR This is the norm. I see it all the time. I knew a girl who always thought her husband was unattractive in high school but she ended up marrying him. Women change their mating strategies from hookups and to LTRS. This is as clear as day. The type of men that women choose for STRs are not the same as LTRs. Women are absolutely emphasizing looks less when it comes to LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:24 AM
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Why not? Does it have anything to do with their lacking of long-term relationship traits? It's the evolutionary mechanism that prevents them from choosing those guys long term because the feeling is that they will be harder to tame and will be less trustworthy as well. Why not? Does it have anything to do with their lacking of short-term relationship traits? It's not sexy. And the type of guy that has to commit long-term probably isn't a sexy guy. Men have to choose to be either a dad or a cad. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:19 AM
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I guess I am. But why are you right about women preferring those guys over Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:58 AM
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I've asked one person a dozen times and they've refused to answer my question so it's not like I'm not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:57 AM
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No its far more common. MOST women commit to guys they enjoy fucking. They are sexually attracted. I mean their ideal sexual interest. I'm not saying the guy they marry is an absolutely disgusting slob. But majority of time women are settling with a guy who is not as sexually attractive as her flings ,ONS, and FWB. Have you ever been in that position? If you have you’ll realise it gets old. Novelty wears off and most crave more permanent companionship. It won't wear off for quite a while. Obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:28 AM
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Women want men who are sexually desirable for long term relationships. Well there is obviously a minimum level of sex appeal that women require but more often than not the guy who women settle with is nowhere near as sexually attractive as the guys they have flings with or sexually fantasize about. Almost to the point that many couples have dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:18 AM
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I’m a 43 yo woman Of course. Even more convenient for you to pretend like the guy who you settle with is a winner. I've noticed a lot of women in that age show interest towards guys like me. Eventually have to get tired of the Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:15 AM
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I don't see it. Look just answer this. Are beauty and sexually attractiveness same thing for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:10 AM
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It's not necessarily that she doesn't trust the better looking dudes. I see what you mean now and it's a fair point but just to be clear, I didn't say good looking, I meant hyper masculine sexually attractive guys. A guy can be pretty while inspiring little sexual lust. So I mean women don't trust the hypermasculine guy and would not want to have a relationship with them even though he is more sexually desirable than her normie boyfreind. That's really the basis of my argument. People always try…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:07 AM
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i don't remember you answering how it's different
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:01 AM
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Quit focusing on some tiny sliver of the media to base female attraction on, that isn’t how it works, especially since you’re acting like it exclusively exists this way. Female attraction is influenced by much more than looks - women aren’t men. Prove this. How are women so unique. I can just take one good look at social media and see plenty of women drooling over pictures of hot buff guys. It's not a tiny sliver. Those evolutionary mechanisms are present in most women even if they are supressed…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:37 AM
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Honestly, you don't get it. Chris Hemsworth is just the archetype. Maybe not the best exampe, but think of athletes instead. A lot of them are not pretty, kind of ugly even. But they are sexually attractive to women because they are tall, buff, hypermasculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:32 AM
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To me it's simple. Gerald butler in 300 is what women sexually desire. Gerald butler after the movie is dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:19 AM
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You're making a lateral shift out of the current discussion. I don't think you even got my point. Your analogy is garbage because you cannot work on sexual attractiveness. You can't change height and bone structure. Most men will not be sexy like Jason Mamoa no matter how hard they try. By getting picked last I mean only being appealing to women as a long-term option because you're not sexually desirable. Also, that can't be changed. A man can work on becoming a better long-term option, he can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:15 AM
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heavy cost of raising a child makes pursuing a pure sexy son strategy inherently risky for women, That is definitely true. But in some ways, the short-term mating evolutionary mechanism is still present even if it's not active. That's why a women might never have flings or short-term relationships. But she still doesn't find her husband as sexually attractive as other men despite the fact that she wants to be with him..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:10 AM
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You probably want your husband to be pretty/beautiful. You don't want him to be a hypermasculine buff guy even though you find that sexually more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:07 AM
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I've heard women say that. My guess is you're a woman who emphasizes the first mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:05 AM
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my pants in my 20’s and I never really noticed his body because he was soooooo boring Not everyone who works out is sexually attractive. He was probably a gymcel and wasn't tall, broad, or hypermasculine. Ryan Lochte is the most stupid and basic motherfucker on the planet and women go crazy over him. Why? Physique. They don't want him long-term of course but they'd rather fuck him instead of their skinny 5'9 boyfriend. That’s what the average woman wants. You're missing the nuance of it all. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:04 AM
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Attempting to distill how female sexuality works down on the basis of one movie is really short sided. Ya but you mentioned strippers not being popular. Also, it's not one movie. It's two successful movies and.. Women swoon over The Rock, Henry Cavil, Chris Hemsworth, etc. All these guys are literally archetypes of the Chad. Tall, buff, hypermasculine. Very similiar. I'm willing to listen but you haven't provided me any evidence that 1. beauty and sexually attractive are same thing for women and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:59 AM
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A man who makes a decent husband/father while also being sexually attractive exists. Not saying it doesn't exist but it is far less common. It becomes an issue of supply at that point. Why would a guy who can get plenty of pussy for life not keep doing it ? Only reason, is because he eventually will age and knows he has to settle down. But most young chads have no reason to do that. Also, as I've mentioned here before, sexually attractive and good-looking are not the same. A guy can be good look…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:56 AM
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That's a weird duality. They all agree on one guy. But they don't agree with other guys. Also, I don't think women sexually lust for harry styles. I know that sounds crazy. He's a beautiful guy and they probably see him as a prototypical next door boy long term guy. But secretely, I think they would rather get plowed by a Jason Mamoa type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:52 AM
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I said sexually desirable. These are men who are hypermasculine. Women ranks really buff guys as sexy but as less trustworthy. It's duality. They sexually desire them more but want to be dadbod because they know he's sexually not that enticing to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:47 AM
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And more women who conveniently deny it because they want to pretend like men are getting a prize by getting picked last by women who sexually desire other men more. Gee I wonder why women are upset that this doesn't fit their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:45 AM
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I'm really not sure about the last sentence. Could be true but I think it's really the masculinity which is the main indicator of sexual desirability. I see no evolutionary reason for why a women would be more interested for a short-term relationship with a guy who is a player if they are both hyper masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:42 AM
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Magic Mike was definitely a thing. Why? Tall, buff, hyper-masculine guys. There absolutely is a similar look. You seem to be confusing how male sexual attraction works to how women’s does. I didn't say they are the same but similarities exist with how there is hot and then there is beautiful. There are beautiful men and hot men. Sometimes overlap but often two different categories of guys. Athletes are a good example. A lot of them aren't beautiful but women sexually lust after them. Why? Tall,b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:38 AM
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The idea that only some chiseled masculine guy you’re describing is sexually attractive to women is false though. It's not false. Look at chippendale dancers. None of them look like Ed Sheeran even though women think he's cute. He doesn't inspire sexual lust. His beauty inspires trust from women, but not sexual lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:08 AM
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Young women in general. I doubt that most young women(20-35) are living a hermit lifestyle. TBH, I'm not sure I undertsand what you are saying. I'm not saying 100% of women will fuck 10 Chads, and settle with a familial dud. I'm saying (or atleast what I mean) that these evolutionary forces are always applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:06 AM
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I don't think you can tell the two apart. The evolutionary mechanisms are operating, they just don't know it. They THINK that the pretty next door guy is sexually attractive but he's really a long-term partner that she trusts. The guy that she sexually desires the most would be someone else. Beautiful men= not hypermasculine but facially attractive. They are trustable. Sexually attractive men= hypermasculine. Women sexually desire the hypermasculine guys more so. They would rather be plowed by C…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:55 AM
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We are talking about different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:48 AM
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Because sexually desirable and pretty are different things. You're thinking of pretty. Women marry a guy is pretty and is a good all-around man. In fact, a pretty face is perceived as more trustable and reliable. I'm not saying pretty guys aren't appealing to women long-term, they absolutely can be. I'm talking about sexual lust. A pretty next door boy who is a family man doesn't necessarily inspire that. A tall, buff, chiseled, hyper-masculine stud inspires that sort of sexual lust from woman. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:48 AM
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Well that's something else dude. I'm not a fan of using numbers because it's almost like there are two or more dimensions to it. Being pretty and being hypermasculine is different. Lot's of guys are pretty but they are not sexually attractive. The opposite can be true. A guy can be meh looking but be very sexy ( think a tall, buff guy). That's why scoring it out of 10 is over simplistic. It would have to be based on either hotness or beauty specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:42 AM
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I won't describe as a good looking dude. Because there are good looking guys who aren't masculine. They aren't necessarily sexually desirable. Not to humble brag, but that's sort of me. Short, narrow shoulders, less masculine and more neotenous face. I'm the guy that gets picked last. I inspire no sexual lust. I don't agree with supply and demand being the thing. Women can get PLENTY of hot tall studs on a date. I know several beautiful women who settle with the less physically impressive guy. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:36 AM
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The real important point I wanted to make is that women more often than not, will not marry guys who they find sexually desirable. They know that those guys inspire sexual lust from other women and those guys have other options. This was the source of my confusion. Why do women say they like dad bods? It's such bullshit when they clearly lust after the hypermasculine guys. It's merely them saying that they know that dad bod is more tameable and that he can't really have as much options. He doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:30 AM
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I'm confused. Firsly, I wouldn't use the word gorgeous because I'm talking about sexual attractiveness. A guy can be pretty but get zero sexual lust. It's very common. What do female bodies have to do with it? if you're a 10 you'll land a 8-10 If you're a 10 man? or a 10 woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:24 AM
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Yes the masculine guy is an untameable beast. The familial guy is a safe option. The offspring will be genetic trash but's will atleast be taken care of. Of course, abundance is a problem. But, I'm sure every women would rather rather tame the hyper-masculine guy. She knows she can't but if she had her way, definitely would leave her wimpy husband for him. Also, women cheat on men with better looking guys. Men cheat on women with uglier girls. It also makes sense in terms of evolution. Have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 12:20 AM
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Men don't care. Studies show that only women care what other women think about a man's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 05:15 AM
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But that's a movie. IRL, women don't even give me that first chance to get to know me. IRL, I've just gotten tired of always being the undesirable one in EVERY social setting. I'm tired of women always checking out or flirting with the other guys. I hate the feeling of being physically undesirable to every woman. It makes me feel inferior. Besides, this ain't a movie. I'm not getting many chances if women are initially repelled by the way I look. I also don't want to wait for some girl whose had…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 04:27 PM
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I don't understand what you are saying You want a guy who can defend you? I mean in this day and age, do women look for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 12:46 AM
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You said a mix of factors can make a guy you were not initially attracted to, become attractive. So I figure part of that would be his personality, intelligence, etc. But do you experience attraction to that guy the same way you would with a guy who initially looks hot? I feel like the carnal desire women have for hot looking guys cannot be replicated with a guy who has attracted woman because of his personality. The guy who attracts with his personality is illicit love and feelings. He doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 12:34 AM
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You mean a guy that you have feelings for is just as sexually attractive as a hot buff guy at the beach that you spot? I doubt this is how it works for most women. For instance, a lot of woman may love their husband. But if he becomes fat, they will still love him but not have as much sexual lust for him. Instead they will lust for hotter buff guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:40 PM
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Why? How are you sure that other women have the same perspective as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:16 PM
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No, that is how women are. They aren't outliers. I've seen plenty of women see a guy they don't know and mention how he looks hot. Not just IRL, but even in terms of just seeing a photo or a video of a hot guy. Maybe you're the outlier? most women will get turned on by the sight of a hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:02 PM
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The fact that a lot of women do date or marry guys they don't find that physically attractive. You've never heard women say that they didn't find him physically attractive, but fell in love with him because of his personality? I've heard women say this. What remains unchanged is sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 07:51 PM
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Not for sexual attractiveness. Humour doesn't make an average looking bloke as hot as Jason Mamoa or Henry Cavill. It's not the same sexual desire to rip of a guys clothes. That is purely raw sexual desire that is linked to physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 05:05 AM
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No. He doesn't have time to do that. He's strict a wham-bam-thank you mam guy. It's us less attractive guys that have to commit in order for women to be interested in us, albeit not for sexual reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:53 AM
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That's still a strict height requirement. You can't say that height doesn't matter if you are eliminating several men. Also, a lot of woman wear heels, so their height requirements are more strict than just a bit taller. Aesthetically, women are also more attracted to tall men. It's not just a taller preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:40 AM
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No, research actually shows women are more physically attracted to taller men. It is height.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:36 AM
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why? You're seriously suggesting to me that the average women gets just as much sexual excitement from her 5'8, with pot belly husband as she would with Jason Mamoa?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:34 AM
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It's not the same sort of sexy though. The body is the only real indicator of sexy. Because when two people are naked, all that's left is the body. The humour is not there, the intelligence is not there. It's all about the body. Those woman find him attrative for 10 seconds when performing But who would they rather bang? Jason Mamoa or a little manlet like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:28 AM
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I'm not missing the point. Yes sometimes there is only one type of attraction going on. Ya I know that's what I'm talking about. In the case of less physically attractive men, this is what happens. They only get emotional attraction and very little sexual attraction. They are still sexually more excited by Jason Mamoa or the hot buff guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:14 AM
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Part of this is also the fact that women are not going to be as attracted to random pictures of celebrities the same way they would be after actually knowing someone who ticks their boxes. Except they are. There are instagram pages, lot of posts on social media, where it just features pictures of hot guys that most women don't even know. Most women aren't that sophisticated. If a guy looks hot, they get turned by a picture. Women's sexuality is also reactive, What evidence is for this? because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:10 AM
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. Many people still love their partners but no longer lust after them as they once did because of weight gain, lack of hygiene etc. Ok well that proves my point. Emotional attraction can not convert in to sexual attraction. Sexual attraction is not influenced by love. It exists independently. The only thing that determines it is physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:00 AM
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Jason Momoa is more discussed by men than by women. I don't know but that's irrelevant. Women on social media go crazy over him. You underestimate the importance of game. Game is a meme. It's pushed by PUA conman who market that bullshit to desperate guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:49 AM
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How am I wrong? Danny Devito could have all those other traits, he's never going to be sexually appealing. The most important determinant of sexual lust is physical traits. Name me a guy who is sexually attractive without being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:47 AM
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You're missing the point Attraction is combo of sexual and emotional No, sometimes women are physically attracted to a guy and not emotionally attracted and somtimes they are emotionally attracted but not really that physically attracted. Some times, both. But a lot of women settle with guys who doesn't really excite them sexually. Ever wonder why women are more sexually adventerous with their FWB and ONS? Than when they marry, their all of a sudden not a sexual person anymore. https://www.reddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:44 AM
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Ok. What do you mean by dominant? Like being a leader? Or just confidence? Can you give an example? So you're suggesting that tall buff guys are hot because they can be dominant alpha males with lots of confidence? TBH, that does make sense. As a smaller guy I just feel silly trying to act alpha or dominant, partly because I know it won't be taken seriously. So, it's entirely possible for women to be super turned on by men they don't find physically impressive. How comes there are not examples o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:35 AM
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Like who? I can't think of a single person. Also, the sexual lust that Jason Mamoa gets from women. No amount of personality will make an average guy get that sort of sexual interest. Sure, he might become a better partner, but sexually desirability won't change because it's mainly determined by looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:18 AM
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thats way more than enough sexual attraction totally disagree. Personality won't bump sexual attraction. You're thinking of OVERALL attraction. Maybe, if she's gauging him as a long-term partner, yes, you're right personality will take him from a 5 to a 7/10 in terms of OVERALL attraction. However, the sexual attraction hasn't changed at all. Sexual attraction is the hot buff guy with his shirt off at the beach. It's not a dad bod guy who is hard working. Just look at the men that women check ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:14 AM
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I'm not saying women date guys that they find unattractive. I'm saying the guys they marry are not as sexually attractive to them. They are more emotionally attractive. They don't have that same sexual lust for them as they would with a hot buff guy they check out on instagram. want to be sexually attractive, stop being neurotic. That's not what makes a man sexually attractive. It doesn't matter if I was or not. You have to be tall, buff, masculine. That's what matters for sexual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:11 AM
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Sexual attraction, as experienced by women, does not rest on looks in the same way it does for men. Even if it wasn't true for you, you don't know if that's not true for most woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:06 AM
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Seems that 100% of females are refuting you. Actually, no. 1. This is a speficifc subreddit, it's not even necessary refelctive of women IRL 2. A few girls actually said what I thought which was sexual attraction and emotional attraction are different. They might lust after certain men even though they love their boyfriend more but don't share that same lust for him. Lust/sexual attraction is toward hot guys, emotional attraction is toward meh looking guys with personality. Also, Mark Ruffalo is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:05 AM
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Height is universally attractive. It's not like skinny girls versus curvy girls. There isn't really a camp of women who prefer short men. Some might not care too much, but most prefer tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:42 AM
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I'm talking about sexual attractiveness. Also, you said guys under 5'10 aren't attractive so that sort of proves that there are physical requirements in order to be sexually attractive. Name one average-looking person who is sexually attractive to woman. I know plenty of guys with no personality but with nice bodies who are sexually attractive to woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:39 AM
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Voice is physical practically. It's not something men can really control. Some men just have deeper talking voices. Smell, is a moot point because it's not that hard for other guys to not smell like shit. Mannerisms and assertiveness are the only ones I guess. However, I can't think of a single average-looking man who is sexually appealing to woman because of his mannerisms and assertiveness. They might be factors. But in order to be sexually attractive, it's REQUIRED that you are physically att…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:29 AM
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This is a backpedal answer. You put your foot in your own mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:14 AM
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I'd say a tall guy is more important for dating because then they can brag to their friends about having a tall bf. Good to know where women place their priorities. And then people say men are the shallow ones, lol. But a medium short guy with good looks will do good with hookups. Not true. Height is one of the main factors women look for in terms of physical attractiveness. Average height guy, probably. Short guy is not sexually appealing to most woman. go to any bar, it's mainly the taller guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:08 AM
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Ok but which comes first for you, the physical or emotional? Also, other women have suggested something different. The guy they love with is perhaps somewhat physically cute and is definitely stable,caring. But the guy they have sexual lust for is very masculine, virile, buff etc. He's the type that they want to ravage. Lot's of women don't have casual sex either but they still see hot, buff guys who look more masculine/virile (eg. Jason mamoa) than their boyfriend. They might not fuck that guy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:04 AM
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Because I've heard different answers and because my observations don't match with this. Physical attraction isn't the term I should use. It's more sexual attraction. There was another girl in this thread who says that the guy she loves is not the same as the guy she has a carnal sexual lust for. They are different guys. Also, my observations don't match with this. Women fool around with the hot stud, and THEN settle with a safe option who is less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:01 AM
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No you don't get it. Emotional attraction and sexual attraction are different. I'm talking about sexual attraction. I'm not saying that women won't be in a relationship with a guy who is average looking. Women marry a lot of guys who they are emotionally attracted to them. But they don't have the same sexual excitement for them as they do with guys they've hooked up with that were more virile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:52 PM
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This is coming from a person who says she never finds shorter guys attractive, lol. Clearly looks is more than a small part. Hell, even men don't have physical requirements that are that strict. In some sense, you're even more focused on looks. I'm not talking about emotional attraction. I mean sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:50 PM
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Except plenty of women have said the opposite, maybe you should stop speaking on behalf of other women awell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:47 PM
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For sex, they do. If they want a hookup, they aren't fucking a manlet. The average height guy or somewhat short guy is more for long term relationships because he's not really sexually appealing but might be emotionally appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:46 PM
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his post agreed with all that though. He is saying that women have casual sex for fun. However, they mainly want it from guys they are physically attracted to. Rarely, is it from just a meh looking guy. That's whole premise behind Alphas fuck, betas buck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:44 PM
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okay interesting take. I'm curious though, how do you initiate a relationship with guys if you're not really physically interested in them? Do you expect them to be your friend first?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:40 PM
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You have read a single thing I've said it seems... Please listen to what I'm saying. I'm not saying that looks are the most important thing for emotionally attracted. I know that a lot of women date mediocre-looking guys that they are emotionally attracted to. I know that. The problem is that physical attraction and emotional attraction are different. Lust and love are different. I don't want just love or emotional attraction. I was lust too. I want a woman to be sexually attracted to me. If she…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:35 PM
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Maybe, you're not a sexual person?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:28 PM
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So you don't lust after men at all? If you see a guy who's tall and muscular at the beach, you don't get turned on at all? That does nothing for you? Most women have a guy they lust for and a guy the love. Sometimes, they have a guy they both love and lust for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:09 PM
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Not me. I need love and lust from a woman. For me, love cannot substitute for lust. It also gives me a feeling of inferiority over other men. Are you saying that you don't lust after a guy?? Or do you lust after guys you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:06 PM
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And women don't expect to fuck with celebrities as well. Well they don't know celebrities. But if they did, they absolutely would. A fat girl could fuck an absolute Chad for one night. It's not like that with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 11:05 PM
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I can give you examples of how female attraction does operate but you’ve basically dismissed them already. I could tell you men I’ve thought were meh but then thought were much sexier after I saw a role or character or they displayed traits that ticked my boxes. You didn't give me any details or examples so I had not how it would work. Atleast explain it to me in your case. There are men I wouldn’t look twice at at first glance but after I got to know them I couldn’t stop thinking or fantasizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:58 PM
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Except most women do. That's just reality. If you don't think that's the case, prove me wrong. Sexual attraction is mainly determined by looks for most women. Look at girls who swoon over guys on social media because of their physiques. Or ladyboners or many instagram pages where women swoon over guys with nice bodies who they don't even know. I mean Jeremy Meeks was a low life felon, and women went crazy over him because of a mugshot. The heiress of a billionaire married him. As for /u/ready2ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:49 PM
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It wasn't a few women, he was extremely popular online. Keep in mind we are speaking generally here. Ok, then how do we know that women generally are sexually excited with character more so than looks? I've atleast mentioned on case that is the opposite (Meeks, Lochte), but you haven't given me one example of an average looking guy who is sexually appealing because of his masculine personality traits. I don't know I guess I'm asking you to just how me how women are sexually attracted by personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:35 PM
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I got the perfect answer for this. Jeremy Meeks. If women’s sexuality is exactly like men’s then why do men and women consume porn so differently? I didn't say sexual behaviour is identical or sexuality is identical in men and women. I said sexual lust is similiar in the sense that there HAS to be be physical attractiveness. Also, Jeremy Meeks. Hot guy who was a lowlife convict. He became popular because of a mugshot. Even became a professional model. Women on social media were swooning over him…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:21 PM
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Ok I will agree with the dating/marriage stat but I 100% disagree with what you said about women being more sophisticated with their sexual interests. Ryan Lochte is dumb as fuck. He has no character or personality. Yet women go ape shit over him. Why? Tall, masculine jaw, and buff. women tend to “swoon” over celebrity men yes even hot ones but only once there’s some sort of character traits they’ve seen They will never swoon over him or lust after him if he does not have physically attractive f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:02 PM
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Ok answer my other point. How is lust or sexual appeal for a man determined mainly by something other than physical attributes? It seems to me that it's mainly physical. Because the hot guys always look like THAT. Very similiar appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:55 PM
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No. That's not the problem. I'm fine with settling with a woman eventually. The problem is that I'm not getting any sexual excitment or sexual lust from her that she gave to other men. It gives me a feeling of inferiority. Love is lame without sexual passion. Maybe women don't care, but as a man, I'm not that cucked that I can be ok with my potential partner finding me sub optimal in terms of sexual appeal. What you described is essentially my worst nightmare. Being just a familial dud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:45 PM
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No, it isn’t, you can’t use like the ugliest person around as your metric FFS. Okay, than give me an example of a guy who is average looking who excites women sexually. Not like an emotinally appealing guy but a guy that they want to fuck. Ed Sheeran is IMO an average looking guy who woman might find appealing for emotional reasons but he won't get that same level of sexual lust/thirst that women have for Jason Mamoa or Anthony Joshua.... regardless of how much personality/talent/confidence he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:42 PM
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Ok, that's an intersting take. But I doubt it applies to most women. Because look at how women on social media obsess over hot guys on instagram or twitter. They don't know much about these guys, they just sexually desire a hunky guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:32 PM
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there might be some women who want to be with someone taller, but for majority of men, height is not an issue. Again, that's not true. MOST women. Again, surveys and reports show that most women will not date a guy who is shorter. That means to most women, height is very important. So much so that they have a requirement for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:31 PM
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I've known a guy who I totally loved, but wasn't insanely attracted to, and a guy who I did not love but was insanely attracted to. I choose the former. every. time. that love is unparalleled. Ya that's my worst fear. I'd rather be the second guy. if you're emotionally and romantically attracted to someone, then physical attraction is inevitable i think. it may not be an intense, rip-your-clothes off attraction, but it's still physical attraction which is preceded by an emotional attraction. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:28 PM
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ya I know that but a lot of women settle with guys they don't find sexually attractive after having their fun with the hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:22 PM
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No, it isn’t. Yes it is. Danny Devito is not going to sexually excite women given how he looks. You have to look manly to be sexually attractive. It's not a conidencde that chippendale dancers look like that. Again, most women find their spouse pretty young. People are marrying later today than ever. I doubt that's true. I think you’re buying into the rhetoric a bit much. I don’t think it’s the case that women are by and large settling on sexual attraction the way manospherians claim. Than why d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:20 PM
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That’s just missing a whole lot of the puzzle! But it's most of the puzzle when it comes to sexual appeal. they believe being very attractive to a woman means you can’t also be stable or husband material Never said that. There are hot guys who are stable. Although, I would argue that a hot guy doesn't have to commit to women to get laid so there is less of an incentive for him to commit. My whole point is that the guys who aren't hot will never get sexual interest from their wife like she gave s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 08:20 PM
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Maybe, you're emotionally drawn to him as a person? Maybe, you're not that sexual so only personality traits appeal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 08:15 PM
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but height is not that important to most women. That's just untrue. To most women, it absolutely is. 90% of women in surveys report that they would not date a shorter guy. Height is especially important. I've had women tell me that they would not date me because of my height. In general, men seem to overestimate looks They don't. Maybe, you're not a sexual women. But look how successful movies like Magic Mike are. Look at how women on social media swoon over hot buff guys. Clearly the physical i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 08:06 PM
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I see, I've heard other views. But the part that confuses me is why is it that women in their younger years are having their fun with hot buff guys and then settling later with a less impressive physical specimen who is more caring and stable. I just don't see how those women are going to have that same sexual passion for their boyfriend/husband as they did with their FWB. Thats why I suspected that women are picking hot guys for sexual reasons and meh, caring guys for emotional reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 08:02 PM
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I see, I've heard other views. But the part that confuses me is why is it that women in their younger years are having their fun with hot buff guys and then settling later with a less impressive physical specimen who is more caring and stable. I just don't see how those women are going to have that same sexual passion for their boyfriend/husband as they did with their FWB or one night flings. Thats why I suspected that women are picking hot guys for sexual reasons and meh, caring guys for emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 08:02 PM
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The article makes some good point, but it's written by slate, which is driven by a particular agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:58 PM
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But does the average looking guy inspire any sexual lust the same way a hot guy does? Or are you just emotionally attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:53 PM
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That's the thing. Women who don't have much sexual interest are the only ones who will have emotional attraction that intertwined with physical attraction. Women who want sex, want a tall buff masculine guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:53 PM
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That doesn't happen. I've never expected a Stacy at all, especially not for flings or short term. The girl that men settle with is usually the best looking girl he can get. The guy the girls hookup with is usually less attractive. It's the opposite of women where girls have flings with hot guys and settle with less physically attractive men who they aren't sexaully attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:51 PM
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Maybe, you're not a sexual person? Do you have the urge to sex up a guy who is emotionally attractive? Or is sex just not really a big deal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:02 PM
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Are you a woman? It's generally known that women prefer tall and buff men. There's even research to show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:01 PM
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ok but here where I'm confused. A lot of young women party and hang around these hot guys when they are young. They also follows hot guys on social media and have celebritity crushes on these tall buff guys. They watch movies like Magic Mike which purely focus on what women want physically. So.. how do they go from that to settling with a less physically attractive guy and still have sexual interest in him. Because most women do end up with guys that are physically less impressive than what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:48 PM
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women's priorities do authentically change over time. But sexual passion doesn't change. They just find a guy that they are now emotionally attracted but they don't have the same sexual lust for him as they did for the hot frat boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:42 PM
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That's the dilemma many women face This isn't that big of a dilemma for woman. It's much worse for men. They are ending up with a woman who is not sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:37 PM
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I meant in bed. How did he fall short?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 02:48 AM
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Most women have the same type. Tall, broad shoulders, strong jawline.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 11:57 PM
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How did he not deliver?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 11:56 PM
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No height is much more important. Height is a requirement for women. I have a 5'3 friend who is super well-rounded. He's never going to have a chance with most women because he doesn't meet their height requirement. Women are more likely to choose a 6 feet tall low life with a criminal record than to choose him. Men don't require nice ass or tits, they just prefer them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 06:36 PM
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WHY are you dodging my point. Don't women have height requirements? Men don't have butt requirements. They only have a preference. You're delusional. You just want to pin the blame on me. Women have been telling me since I was in elementary school till college that short is not attractive. I went on OKC where I normally get zero matches I changed my height, and I suddenly got matches. Now you're going to blame me and my attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:17 PM
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Most women will not date a 5'3 guy. Therefore, MOST women have a height requirement. Most men DONT require big butts even if they prefer them It's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:06 PM
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Some women care about stupid things like that. Just like some men care about stupid things. Not sure if that is comparable. That's a false equivalence Women put strict height requirements. I don't have breast or hip requirements for women. I might prefer big butts but I don't even have that as a requirement, just a bonus. Height makes up the majority of a mans overall attractiveness and is required. A lot of women require the guy to atleast be 5'9 and above.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:31 PM
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raw, unfiltered female desire and sexual interest? Then what the hell is the point of being with a woman in a relationship? So I can just be a provider or give her attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:27 PM
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For every one girl I've heard say it doesn't matter, I've heard SEVERAL say it matters a lot. Girls have rejected me and told me that I'm not tall enough and that's a turnoff. I get zero matches on OKC unless I lie about my height and say I'm 6 foot. Women absolutely do care about height. How can you deny that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:10 PM
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Ya but I feel like women are changing from a physical criteria to a non-physical criteria if they are in a relationship with me. Can non-physical traits make a short guy like me desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:58 AM
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Ya, hopefully you can help me out. Send me the studies. I've done a really good job of proving to myself that it really matters. I've found several studies that show women are more attracted to tall men. I've also watched several videos and documentary like the ABC 20/20 video that shows short men are never attractive even if they are super successful. I also just always pick or notice trends of tall guys doing much better with woman. Online dating also makes it look brutal. Lot's of women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:53 AM
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how tall r u? So muscle is more important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:48 AM
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How tall are you BTW?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:30 AM
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But does being married to your partner or best friend make him sexy? Can chemistry make him hotter? I guess you mentioned personality turning someone on. I just don't see how me having personality as a short guy would turn a woman on. I feel like it would just make me a better friend or a better companion. So she would marry me but really rather have sex with some who is taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:22 AM
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That's not the point... Read my post my question is something else
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:02 AM
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Women, on the other hand, are attracted to a variety of non-physical qualities in men. So what? The physical traits are still REQUIREMENTS. Personality won't make up for them if the height requirement is not met. They start filtering men on psychological traits AFTER they've ruled out men based on height. All the non-physical qualities in the world don't mean anything to a woman if he doesn't meet her physical requirements which for many women is a height requirment(over 5'9 or over 6'0). youth,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:13 PM
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No they are not. I've seen the same person say both on numerous occsasions. Both online on social media and IRL. I've seen people make this double standard in literally 5 minutes. But even IF we wwere to assume they tend to be two different people, the double standard in society still exists. Let's be real, there are no body positive ads for short men. There are millions for these fat pigs. When, if ever, have you seen women speak up against people body shaming short men? I've rarely seen it. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:46 PM
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I don't give a fuck about eastern europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:42 PM
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Is this the first girl you've been with?
/r/seduction14/04/19 07:05 AM
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You said most the sexiest men alive were short. They aren't. Most are tall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:51 AM
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Ok, why are you trolling me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 12:55 AM
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Hardly, as long as you make as much as she does, she's going to look more at physical traits. Height is much more important. Physique/bone structure is second to that.
/r/seduction14/04/19 12:52 AM
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I don't get what you're trying to say. What does that have to do with what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 12:08 AM
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Not a single one of those guys are under 5'7. Most of those guys you listed are average height (5'9) men. You said 5'7, 5'8 range. Zac Effron is 5'8, Wahleberg is 5'8 and Tom cruise 5'7. All the other guys are taller. Brad Pitt is fucking 5'11. WTF, is that what's considered short to women now? I'm 5'6. None of those guys are my height. My point was that the majority of hot men in hollywood or men in /r/ladyboners are on the tall side. That is DEMONSTRABLY true. Just go and look. They are mainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:05 PM
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Not a single one of those guys are under 5'7. Most of those guys you listed are average height (5'9) men. You said 5'7, 5'8 range. Zac Effron is 5'8, Wahleberg is 5'8 and Tom cruise 5'7. All the other guys are taller. Brad Pitt is fucking 5'11. WTF, is that what's considered short to women now? I'm 5'6. None of those guys are my height. My point was that the majority of hot men in hollywood or men in /r/ladyboners are on the tall side. That is DEMONSTRABLY true. Just go and look. They are mainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:05 PM
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Not short. Most hot guys are tall, few are average, rarely if ever short.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 10:16 PM
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and a LOT of "sexiest man alive" type actors are in the 5'7", 5'8" range Bullshit. Most hot guys in hollywood are tall. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Charlie Hunnam, Idris Elba, Vin Diesel, Jason Momoa, Chris Pine, Henry Cavill, John Krasinski, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Chris Pratt, Josh Duhamel, Alex Pettyfer, Cam Gigandet, Ben Affleck, Christian Bale, Joe Manganiello, Matthew Mcconaughey, Hugh Jackaman. The list can go on forever. The short guys usually play the role of the clown or the reject of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 10:04 PM
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How they are so sensitive about fat girls and how they are "treated unfairly". Yet, they constantly put down short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 08:49 PM
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Notice how insanely defensive these bitches are about fat girls and their body image. Yet, they will constantly demean short guys and put them down. Even though short guys have an excuse for being short, fat girls don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 08:49 PM
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Lol, those are exactly the guys who get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 08:25 PM
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Like what? Grunting? Being aggressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 08:07 PM
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You keep shitfting the goal post. The women to listed appeal to WOMEN. So what? Even then, you said that women are not acnklowedged for their accomplishments, when these women clearly are. Stop shifting the goal posts Was there an ugly female protagonist in an action movie marketed at men? Again, shifting the goalposts. You are such a sleazy debater. How did you go from ugly women are not acknowledged to this? I've already answered your question. Ugly women are acknowledged. Shorter men are actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 08:04 PM
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what number they can say their boyfriend's height is than how tall you actually are No girls are very much in to height. Most male actors are on the taller side, especially if they are in super hero movies or romantic movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:58 PM
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Hillary Clinton is a political figure. You said women who are ugly are not known for their accomplishment. Well there is a perfect example. Vin Diesel is a few inches shorter than the rock. WTF are you babbling about. At the shortest, he might be 5'10. Still not short. Name a model Models are supposed to make clothes look better. That's not what society considers attractive. That's what designers like. You're cherry-picking examples. Let's look at hollywood instead. If we look at hollywood, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:55 PM
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What's your point. Lot's of ugly women who are famous and successful. Lena Dunham is uglier than all those people you listed. Hillary Clinton looks like shit. Oprah looks like shit. Ellen Degeneres looks like a man FFS. People ridicule Kevin Hart all the time, not just as comedy either. Vin Diesel is 6 foot. Are you retarded? Look at male superheroes, they are mainly tall. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, Christian Bale, etc. Short men are portayed as weak and a joke. Soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:28 PM
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In life, ugly men have it easier than ugly women because, if FUCKING BULLSHIT. Lena Dunham is the ugliest turd on this planet and she's still famous. Short men have it 100X worse than ugly women. They are disrespected and bullied in life. People make fun of them and disregard their accomplishments. Men don't fear getting old or ugly. I'm sorry, are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:04 PM
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Masculine behaviours?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:01 PM
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I would change how they are all essentially attracted to the same guy. Tall, white, broad shoulders, holly-wood esque guys. Just look at /r/ladyboners. Overwhelming majority of the guys there are that. At least, with men there is more diversity in what we are attracted to. Some of us like tall, some short, some curvy, some thin, some asian/latino, etc. I feel like women like a certain gimmick that reminds them of their hollywood favorites. They don't want a real authentic person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:58 PM
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what were the hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:56 PM
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Exactly, all these girls talk about personality and shit. They all fuck the nearly identical 6'2, broad-shouldered, masculine jawline guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:16 AM
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If this doesn't prove that height > face, I don't know what will. Height is the most important thing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:47 AM
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The pictures of you doing hobbies... are they taken by a professional photographer? How were they taken?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:47 AM
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False. Plenty of ugly 6'4 guys who get girls easily. I rarely see good looking 5'4 guys doing well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:57 AM
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Are you stupid. There are plenty of women who have height requirements. Fucking delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:45 AM
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All others things being equal, who would you rather have sex with a buff-looking guy a lanky ropy looking guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:38 AM
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Most women do prefer that though, it's not just a select group Are you seriously tell me that most girls prefer short guys with weak chins? Let's be real The majority of women prefer that. A lot of you don't like to admit because you want to sound modest but if you had the choice, you know you'd choose the masculine type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:39 AM
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Disagree. Don't like skinny or shit face.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:15 AM
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Disagree. Don't want to brag, I've been described as pretty boy by others. Ugly guys who are taller and more buff do MUCH better with women than me. I've noticed it with other pretty boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:03 PM
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Models are different though. Most men don't like ugly girls with nice bodies, they prefer pretty girls. Women prefer ugly masculine guys over pretty boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:01 PM
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These are my observations. What makes you think I'm wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:14 PM
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Are you happy with what you've achieved? If yes, great. If not, well.... I have no idea if it will. I just know I'm certainly not happy now being undesirable and seeing every jock getting all the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:54 PM
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Sexual women tends to steer towards hyper-masculine. The non-sexual women like pretty boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:50 PM
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What do you look like? I'm guessing tall and broad, strong jawline?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:50 PM
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No that's the college girl ideal. Go look at any jocks Instagram page, plenty of young hot girls who are lusting after these kind of hyper-masculine guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:48 PM
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No I can't. You see, it's a numbers game. I can't try to appeal to niche groups of women who like guys like that. Most women don't like dadbod and definitely prefer jacked guys. I'd rather just take steroids like the other gym rats. I'm sick of being undesirable to most women and just being there as their lackey or provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:46 PM
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Like Seth Rogan dadbod? Man, I don't know who to believe anymore. I feel like women say one thing, do another. If you girls like dadbods, how come you go to see chippendale dancers and male strippers that look super jacked. I think sexual women like hypermasculine bodies but non-sexual women prefer dad bods.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:35 PM
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And I saw college girls throwing themselves at skinny artist/musicians Ya but that's for romance. They want satisfaction from big buff guys. It's not my feelings, it's what I've observed. Go on instagram and you will see women totally lusting and losing their shit over these NFL-player-looking guys. I feel like women don't want to admit it or something. What do you consider an ideal hot/sexy body?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:33 PM
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You're exageratting the whole pansy liberal stuff. I'm conservative AF. I never let any women walk over me. Guess what? Women are still going to prefer a 6 ft 2 , 250 lb ape who is a white knight feminist over me. Political orientation have no influence on who a woman fucks. So far I've noticed it's just height, shoulder width, jawline..masculine features.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:14 PM
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God, PLEASE give me the dadbod guys I'm assuming for an LTR but for a ONS, you'd rather be with the 240 lb jacked guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:12 PM
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Status is for LTR. Do women really want to be fucked by dad bod? If that was the case, chippendale dancers and male strippers wouldn't be so jacked. I have a hard time believing that women don't want buff guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:11 PM
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You like the cheerleader type. Out of curiosity, what type are you? Are you the hipster type? I actually don't prefer the cheerleader type. What I'v assumed is that cheerleaders are more honest about what the like. Like the smart girls and nerd girls probably like jocks too but they just won't say it whereas the cheerleader type are more open about it. That's why I use the cheerleaders type because I'm assuming they are giving the honest opinion of what women really want (i.e., 6 ft 4, buff, str…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:08 PM
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What's an ideal sexy physique look like to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:04 PM
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You're not a college girl are you? I see college girls throwing themselves at guys like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:04 PM
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Instagram reflects what young people are like today though. Young women today no longer likes skinny pretty boys. They like big guys like Khalo Drago. In his case, he's good looking though but I see plenty of women tall/muscular guys who are ugly as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 05:59 PM
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You know women say this but if dadbods are so nice, why do you guys like watch men with Chippendale dancer bods? I've never seen a girl wooo for a dad bod. I just don't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 05:57 PM
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Did you not go to college? Women do have ONS sex, it's just only with the top 5% of guys
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:04 AM
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Ya, that's unfortunate. I don't share that notion that life is just fun. Life is also about sadness and contemplation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:56 AM
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Yes but there is one flaw with LTR. Women often choose men for resources and also choosen men for LTR because they know he can't do better and she can tame him. Not saying that's your case. Just that STRs are better indicators. If she wants to fuck him without him having to castrate himself, that mean he's desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:54 AM
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https://media.golfdigest.com/photos/5c61ed4361e4f272a9334071/master/pass/DzJgLuwUYAAwI-y.jpg What about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:47 AM
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In fact society has deem being masculine a negative. No that's a different topic. Even a harpy feminist will want to fuck a tall buff chad with a strong jawline. I was meaning more college girls, not high school. They definitely prefer the hyper-masculine type
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:46 AM
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Ya but LTRS don't mean desirability. STR determine where a man is actually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:45 AM
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Have you ever been on tinder? You think women just go with any guy who picks them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:26 AM
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If Brock Lesnar slapped your girlfriends ass, what would you do? Masculine men are more dominant. A pretty boy can't just dominate a setting in which there is a more dominant figure there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:25 AM
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Solidly built (not jacked or "cut", just having substance to him What do you mean? Bear mode? Otter mode? Yes and I have. Actually quite a few of my bfs have been quite "pretty" looking but with a hard personality. Teach me sensei the ways of hardpersonality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:58 AM
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Girls get APPROACHED by several guys. But ultimately they get their pick of the litter mate. You think women will go with any guy who picks them? Come on dude....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:56 AM
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Of course girls pick. Females are the choosers in nature. Could you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:48 AM
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I don't believe that because the masculine guys can dominate in situations where there is a pretty boy. They can act more dominant. If you were a pretty boy, you wouldn't date hit on a big guy's girl. But a big guy could easily hit on a pretty boy's girl. I just notice a lot of good looking guys with meh girlfriends. Whereas a I see butt ugly guys who are 6ft2 and buff, who get PLENTY of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:47 AM
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Maybe, not 6% , I didn't measure them but they are pretty lean. 8-10%
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:45 AM
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What would you describe as a masculine looking guy? I'm short. Have you ever seen a short masculine looking guy? It really isn't as simple as appearance. Let's say a guy wasn't masculine looking but had masculine traits. Would you fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:44 AM
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Well I'm talking about young girls so definitely not marriage and generally more for sex and dating. I would agree that yes women tend to fuck more hyper masculine men Yes but they don't care for looks IMO. Like the guy could be ugly as fuck. But if he's tall, buff, broad, strong bones, he's going to get laid more often than a 5'10 DiCaprio or Brad Pitt looking guy. It's like they just want to be ravaged by the savage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:36 AM
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Are you a woman? What do you think is more important good looks like Brad Pitt/ Dicaprio or masculine( height, muscles, strong bones)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:31 AM
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Is there a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:18 AM
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No, they mention it. Not to me, I just hear them say it often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 02:49 AM
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weird sexual exploits What? What do you mean then you need to meet someone new. how?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 02:47 AM
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What? Why not just lift both lower and upper body?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 10:37 PM
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Not the manlet fighters
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 10:36 PM
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No. I said a tall guy can get pussy as long as puts in the work. Short guys can't get pussy no matter what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 10:35 PM
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Really? I don't care about faces when it comes to ONS. I just focus on physique. Maybe that's why I feel women are doing the same
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:28 PM
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K, I need a womens view on this, which is mixed between yes and no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:26 PM
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How tall are you? IRL women aren't any different. I just heard some girl on the bus talking about how disappointed she is about her boyfriends height
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:23 PM
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That second study DID NOT show that face is more important for sexiness/hotness than height which is what you said. Here is a link that shows that face > body for attractiveness. Lol, your own link says muscle tone was number one. Nonetheless, you said face>height which is false as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:19 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:13 PM
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His body is NOT sexy. His shoulders are very narrow which women don't like. You just said he makes money? Dude, listent to what I'm saying. I'm talking about sexual attractiveness. The type of guy women would like to fuck. Henry Cejudo is just a tool for her. She's probably fucking Randy Orton or Roman Reigns for flings, big tall guys. Women use short men for resources, they want tall men for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:10 PM
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This guy is a tall dude with his in the sand. Women worship tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:08 PM
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You didn't lift though. Who cares if you lost weights, it's a given that you should be lean. Now add muscle and you could easily get more pussy than any fit short guy. If you're ugly and weak, people see you as creepy. If you're ugly and athletic, women don't see you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:05 PM
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I've seen a hive mind mentality from women on height so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:03 PM
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Dude, she is using him for publicity. You think if he wasn't famous and went up to her in a bar, that she would give him any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:02 PM
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LTRs maybe, I'm talking about short-term Women want something more physical/masculine for short-term. Tall and buff usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:00 PM
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I meant for a ONS. Sara Jay is ugly but so many dudes would fuck her but not marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:57 PM
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I have a friend like you. He was lazy. He didn't lift weights or have a proper beard. As soon as he did, he was drowning in pussy. You tall guys have zero excuse. Pussy is easily handed to you, you just have to make an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:53 PM
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What would you mean by austistic weirdo? Like bad social skills? Also, pretty boys tend to look effeminate. Or do you mean effeminate in terms of mannerisms? Also, why ugly and masculine for long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:51 PM
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Dude, women talk about height all the time. It's the first thing they mention when describing a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:49 PM
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Lol, and people say women don't care about height that much. If it makes a short Brad Pitt equivalent to the average guy who works at IBM, it's pretty important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:48 PM
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Ok but this is why I'm asking because I had the notion that a short guy can't be sexy. So can you please tell me how can he be sexy if he's short?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:46 PM
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The difference between being a guy being pretty and a guy being sexy depends on if the woman looking at him is horny or not. That's interesting. I had another perspective. Women view short but pretty guys as just pretty and would desire him long-term only. Whereas they view tall men as sex and would definitely like him for a fling. So you are saying that girls like pretty boys for sex too? They don't necessarily require a 6'3, 250 lb guy to ravage them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:45 PM
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How can a short guy be sexy (not in the long-term relationship sort of way)? Face, physique, or personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:43 PM
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I'm talking about height BECAUSE women are obsessed with height.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:41 PM
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What do you mean BE? If a short guy shows confidence, women usually try to put him down in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:40 PM
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Ya but v-taper has more to do with shoulder width which is a masculine trait so that proves my point still. Maybe provide some of that science. Give me a study showing that face makes men hot more so than height.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:36 PM
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Disagree. Women like to ravage by the savage. I see plenty of tall ugly guys with hot girls. Look at the guy dating Christina Hemsworth. I rarely see short guys with hot girls unless they have money. .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:36 PM
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You're not listening to what I'm saying. Please listen. I DONT WANT TO BE A DUD WHO IS COMMITTED TO WOMEN. I don't want to be attractive because I have to commit to a woman. My question is whether short men can be sexy in the way women would like to enjoy for just one night. I feel like us short guys are losers. Tall guys get to fuck girls with zero commitment, whereas the only short men ever get women is by having to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:33 PM
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So which is more important for sexiness, height or face?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:29 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:28 PM
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Why would women care that much about status/money for a fling? Women don't find Trump or lot's of rich old white guys sexy even though he has those other two things (money and status).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:28 PM
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Ya but it's prevalent IRL. Women talk about height all the time. It's the main adjective I hear women using when describing men. It might not make sense to you as a dude, but women worship tall men. Your short friends might be cute. But when women go out for a night, my guess is they want to be ravaged by a 6'3 guy. And then they will date the sorry cute short guy for long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:27 PM
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I don't really agree. When it comes to sex, it would make sense that women want a masculine man with height, muscularity. Let's put it this way. Most guys would fuck an ugly girl with a big ass for a ONS, right? Well masculine men are the equivalent of that. Women focus more on masculine features than beauty when they just want to fuck a guy. That's my theory at least. They are going to focus more on height, shoulder width, jawline for sex. Masculine personality traits won't do much. If you're 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:25 PM
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It's not really a stupid question given that the responses are mixed. It's not entirely clear. I've heard several women say they don't see short men in a sexual way at all. I had a huge crush in high school on a guy who was my height and I'm 5'5. FFS, you're not listening. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a guy you think is hot and would like to have sex with. Not some high school crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:20 PM
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Pretty boys will never do as well as masculine men (even if they are ugly). Pretty boys get to be a dud in a long-term relationship. Masculine men get to fuck as many women they want which is the much better alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:18 PM
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what is the retarded obsession with height in this place? I don't have the obsession, women do. Just listen to women describe their ideal men. They always talk about height. Look at how women on twitter ridicule short men. Women are obsessed with height, to me it makes no sense because it's just how many cms your head stick up in the sky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:17 PM
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This seems to be the only thing women care about. How long your legs, how wide is your clavicle, what's your mandible like. As men, we are nothing more than proper bones to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:14 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:51 PM
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Broad frame? Like muscular?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:51 PM
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I don't want to date any women. I'm not interested in committing to any women. My question is can short men be sexy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:49 PM
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I'm not talking about celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:48 PM
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