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0	To The Guys Who Don’t Kiss Or Flirt On Dates…. Uhh, the advice sounds unethical tbh. When I have sex with a girl, it is important to me that I know she is making an informed decision that she thinks is best for herself. Making out in public is a very clear message preceding sex as it is generally the most one can sexually escalate while still remaining within generally accepted social norms. If a girl is willing to go somewhere where social norms no longer become a limiting factor when you have already reached the point where these norms are…	/r/seduction	22/10/25 08:16 PM
1	Is being a nice guy really that bad? Being a "nice guy" is unattractive because it is the safest, most universally inoffensive, mode of social operation. Typically this means that "nice guys" are actually socially manipulative men motivated by fear of rejection. They don't think their authentic self is good enough to attract their muse, so they act out the socially castrated nice guy role instead.	/r/seduction	14/10/25 01:39 PM
2	Are btch shields and sht tests really a thing? The way you are responding suggests you don't understand how the shit test works/ why it is done. A shit test is done to assess the internal psychology of the man. I agree, some basic social competency and a completely logical assessment would make most shit tests easily identifiable, but these tests do not occur within this theoretical vacuum. The difficulty of the test is not logical, but emotional , the litteral antithesis of rational thought. Going back to the example I provided, if I sincer…	/r/seduction	23/04/24 02:55 PM
7	Are btch shields and sht tests really a thing? OP sounds like a good looking + tall dude with super basic level game. Shit tests 100% exist, I had a ONS this past weekend where the girl, after having displayed overt sexual interest, suddenly started acting demanding and highly implying that I was friendzoned. The moment I reached out and pulled her close to me after her shit test, she showed a devilish smile and became even more sexual than before the test. Also, it is not a fantasy that a woman can be seduced. Just because she is initially …	/r/seduction	23/04/24 02:21 PM
2	What does having strong "frame" mean? In the example I gave, you are directly confirming that you are a "poopyhead", there is nothing subconscious about it. If a poopyhead is a bad thing that a girl wouldn't like, why would a guy claim he is one to a girl he is extremely attracted to unless he doesn't care what she thinks?	/r/seduction	18/04/24 07:21 PM
3	What does having strong "frame" mean? I don't think defending the hobby would be submitting to the girl's frame depending on how you convey the message. If she says "only losers do X" and you respond by saying "Sure, I like X because of XYZ" with a somewhat amused attitude, you might be overtly agreeing to her frame, but you are also conveying that you are indifferent to if she thinks you are loser. This indifference is what would pass the shit test.	/r/seduction	18/04/24 06:16 PM
2	What does having strong "frame" mean? It is a complicated way of saying that you should be authentic, and to a lesser extent, particular when expressing yourself. If you like something, be unwavering in the fact that you like the thing indifferent to what anyone else says or does, and have the ability to articulate to a nuanced degree why you like the thing you like. I am adding this bit about the ability to effectively articulate yourself because of a real-world interaction I had: I met a girl while cold approaching out at some bar…	/r/seduction	18/04/24 06:04 PM
2	It’s better to assume a girl is not interested than to assume they are interested, saves you a lot of time Heh, alright. Kindly fuck-off with your black bill ideology bro. The people that view this sub are trying to improve themselves and their lives. Spreading hopelessness, in hopes of validating your own hopeless world view, is parasitic and disgusting.	/r/seduction	21/10/22 05:37 PM
5	It’s better to assume a girl is not interested than to assume they are interested, saves you a lot of time This is probably the worst advice I have ever seen on this sub. There are many problems with assuming the girl is not interested, but the main issue is that , when one is required to make a subjective assessment about what is and is not an "outright sign that she is interested", men, and inexperienced men in particular, are basically always going to assume the "signs" are not "signs she is interested". This same problem does not exist if you always assume she is interested. The calculation is mu…	/r/seduction	21/10/22 05:31 PM
5	The guys I know who attract the most women are among the most deeply insecure, arrogant, narcissistic, egotistical people that I know of I hate everything about the original post. The whole thing is just a long winded explanation of the the typical nice guy complaining about how woman just like "douchbags". A few things: 1.Confidence is an emotional state, it can't be faked. You imply (assume) a lot ,perhaps most, of success men have is based on some kind of limited agency woman have over their own sex life: A."they basically exploit womens biological mate selection framework" B."People(woman) are much more susceptible to manipul…	/r/seduction	20/10/22 05:17 PM
7	You are not preserving a woman’s honor by ‘taking things slowly’ or delaying sex. You’re only hurting your chances. Always escalate and avoid the White Knight mentality with sex I would add that woman generally know that men want to have sex sooner than later. Moreover, woman are fairly attuned to if a man wants to have sex with them/is sexualizing them. As a result, if you don't escalate when you truly want to have sex with her, she will determine that you are not being truly honest with her as you are not honestly and openly representing your desire to have sex with her. A man that is dishonest about his desires/beliefs in an effort placate other people is a man that …	/r/seduction	07/02/22 10:22 PM
2	How do I ask her to pay without making it awkward? Bruh, that situation sounds lame as fuck. Why would you accepts a situation like the one you describe unless you are extremely desperate? If I can tell you are desperate after reading a single paragraph, this girl 100% knows how desperate you are. You are allowed to set expectations for your relationships. If you are unhappy with the status quo, you need to let her know. If she stops spending time with you because you won't continue paying for her meals, then she sees you mostly as a free meal…	/r/seduction	21/09/21 05:11 PM
2	[FIELD REPORT] Rave Edition I think he was commenting that it is cringe that you lie about your career to pick up woman. If you don't lie about your career, then you should re-word your "Stats" section as your current wording implies that you pick one of the the various "prestigious" careers each nigh/each cold approach interaction.	/r/seduction	13/09/21 01:31 AM
-5	[FIELD REPORT] Rave Edition "Profession: Something prestigious (IE: lawyer, investment banker, FAANG tech, doctor)" You were lying about your career? If yes, that is weak as fuck dude.	/r/seduction	11/09/21 10:59 PM
1	Is cold approach worth it? My take after thousands of approaches There is no method better than cold approach when it comes to learning how to seduce a woman. Cold approach affords a consistent high number of interactions which allows for the fastest growth. Once one can successfully do cold approach, they also earn a certain unwavering confidence. Even if one's cold approach skills wane, they will always know that, with some time, pain, and effort, they can be successful with woman. It is also worth pointing out that many, if not a large majority, of male ho…	/r/TheRedPill	28/06/20 03:28 PM
1	How do I start flirting and for a lack of a better "signal" that I'm interested in them as more than a friend Your interpretation of my position is incorrect. Being direct in some ways is required. " Overtly stating interest, as you describe, is not advice on flirting or seduction " - This was my main point. If i had a problem with directly expressing interest, with no additional nuance, I wouldn't have said "as you describe".	/r/seduction	16/06/20 12:27 PM
4	How do I start flirting and for a lack of a better "signal" that I'm interested in them as more than a friend If you can tell a guy is trying to be suave, he is clearly not very skilled at seduction. Regarding your experience as a woman approaching woman, it seems pretty obvious you would need to be highly direct as by a large margin woman aren't romantically or sexually interested in woman. Look lower down in this thread and you will see my direct response to the OP. It is often good for a guy to communicate his sexual/romantic interest early on in an initial interaction, but the way he communicates th…	/r/seduction	14/06/20 10:43 PM
1	How do I start flirting and for a lack of a better "signal" that I'm interested in them as more than a friend I don't see how what you said is in any way a response to what I said in my post. I'm happy for your success I guess?	/r/seduction	14/06/20 10:26 PM
10	How do I start flirting and for a lack of a better "signal" that I'm interested in them as more than a friend Overtly stating interest, as you describe, is not advice on flirting or seduction. There is no art to your recommended approach. I agree that such a direct communication of your attraction is so outside the norm, so much so that it could be perceived as tactless and jarring, that it could be construed as confidence, but a quality woman understands that a single act of confidence is worth little. If one wants to seduce a woman of higher quality, multiple instances of proof of confidence are requi…	/r/seduction	14/06/20 03:28 PM
24	How do I start flirting and for a lack of a better "signal" that I'm interested in them as more than a friend The ultimate goal is to express interest while not putting lots of pressure on the woman. My personal favorite way to do this is whenever I had a sincere moment of attraction with the woman I was flirting with, I would quickly make a passing comment about it. For instance, if I was in the middle of a sentence I would quickly stop for a moment and say "wow, you are pretty cute" then continue the sentence/conversation as if nothing was said at all. This way, the woman doesn't have to respond, she …	/r/seduction	14/06/20 02:05 PM
1	Cold approach yes or no? If you want to get better at seduction, the fastest way is to do cold approaches. While doing cold approaches can be painful due to frequent rejections, there is no method that facilities a higher number of interactions to learn from. It is also worth mentioning that building capability in cold approaches imbues one with a sense of unwaving confidence when it comes to getting woman. Cold approach uses no crutches, it is just you and the girl.	/r/seduction	28/05/20 06:48 PM
2	Women, how do you feel about men giving you their phone number as opposed to asking for yours? I mean, I get there is some pay off for now, but I think you underestimate how much this strategy turns off every other woman who sees it happening regularly. The strategy itself doesn't need to be independently successful to be done. Even if cold approach pick up never worked at all (even though it completely does) it would still be worth doing. Men who do cold approaches have more interactions with different woman than men that don't do cold approaches. This means that the men not only are mor…	/r/seduction	12/09/19 10:25 PM
7	Women, how do you feel about men giving you their phone number as opposed to asking for yours? Do these guys think most women think like this? Many do. Even if most don't, it is a strategy that affords a high number of interactions. You think I'm number ranking men on their looks and deciding to give out my info based on that? Not entirely based on looks, but on some level you are rating how attractive the man is in general. The reason men in the pickup/seduction community use the 1-10 attraction scale of woman when describing strategies/stories of interactions is that it provides valuabl…	/r/seduction	12/09/19 07:21 PM
13	How did you guys get over approach anxiety? I picked up girls before, but it’s been like 5 years coming out of a long relationship. Seems impossible to get restarted You get over approach anxiety by, simply put, charging through it. About 6 months ago I was in a very similar situation to where you are now. The first time I went out was so crushing that I was on the verge of tears. Eventually after you suffer enough though, you will get past it.	/r/seduction	24/08/19 04:39 PM
1	Do sex ultimatums ever work? " I grabbed her cavemen style and guide her to a bj "- This sounds super lame. There are probably woman that find extremely dominant actions attractive. That being said, there are many different ways to seduce woman, and your method is probably the most volatile, risky, and brain dead method. Learn how to actually seduce someone slowly through calibration, confidence, and wit. "cavemen style" is at best a crutch and at worst makes your looks like a socially inept and desperate loser.	/r/seduction	13/05/19 11:07 PM
1	Goodbye kiss at the end of the date The end night kiss is pretty much a cultural expectation. For even the most conservative of woman, a kiss at end the night is typically acceptable. Really, in most cases, if she isn't willing to kiss you at the end of the night, she probably also isn't all that interested in seeing you again period. As an aside, the end of night kiss is such a culture expectation that it is a very safe move to make and, by extension, completely lame. Instead, build comfort with the girl by physically touching …	/r/seduction	02/05/19 11:14 PM
1	Better to give your # or ask for theirs? Always get the girl's number. I pretty much never verbalize my request for the number. I'll open up a new contact page on my phone and hand the phone to the girl so that she enters it herself.	/r/seduction	30/04/19 06:06 AM
1	Ex randomly texts me not sure how to reply If you specifically told her to not reach out unless she was "serious about working things (out)" and she texted you that she is wondering if you are still willing to give her a chance, I would assume that she is sincerely interested in potentially getting back together. Be short and sweet in your text interactions. Say something like "Sure, once you're back in town shoot me a text and we can grab a drink from XYZ bar." Don't engage much farther than this. If she is sincerely interested she wi…	/r/seduction	29/04/19 10:32 PM
1	Got caught staring at a girl, should I apologize? Just let it go dude. Apologizing for the instance will only prove to her that you have been ruminating on what is most likely only a very small social blunder. This will also directly communicate to her that you also believe your actions were a mistake. As it stands, there could be many different reasons for you staring, some of these explanations might even be to your benefit. If you apologize for your actions, you are confirming that the staring was inappropriate/negative.	/r/seduction	29/04/19 07:43 PM
1	How to survive the shit tests If you have strong inner game you will pass the shit tests without trying. Learn to accept yourself and stand true to your beliefs and shit tests won't be a problem. For instance, I hardly even notice shit tests anymore. When the girl says something that could be construed as rude or judgmental, I kinda automatically assume she is just joking/having some playful banter with me.	/r/seduction	29/04/19 07:37 PM
1	Dance Moves Show off your dance moves, but don't go full try hard mode. You don't want to be the impressive spaz in the middle of the dance floor.	/r/seduction	29/04/19 07:32 PM
2	Going on a date saturday My big piece of advice is to have the courage to escalate. You don't need to try having sex with this girl, but you should try to establish the relationship is romantic/sexual in nature. Hold her hand, pick her up (woman love to be picked up), go for a kiss. Doing these things, assuming they aren't horribly timed, will make you more attractive.	/r/seduction	25/04/19 11:14 PM
3	Drinks just turned into dinner, how does that change escalation? Have some confidence. You are basically saying that her decision making skills need to be compromised for you to seduce her. Very few woman would not accept a kiss at the end of a good date, she is probably hoping/expecting for you to make a move. Just be your charming self, employ some seduction/game tactics if you know how, and go for the kiss at the end of the date. Honestly, you should probably go for the kiss at some point in the middle of the date if possible. The single kiss at the en…	/r/seduction	25/04/19 11:05 PM
1	Did I just get friendzoned by her (21f) or is this some kind of game? Uhh, make a move dude. Ask her to grab a drink with you later in the evening (this is more of a romantic/sexual setting). While at the bar/club engage in some light kino and see if she is receptive. If she is, continue escalating.	/r/seduction	25/04/19 10:53 PM
3	Frustrated. (24/m) Seduction is a skill. Throughout the OP you do not mention any seduction practice you have engaged in. If you want to make a change go to some bars/clubs this coming weekend and start cold approaching woman. It is going to be scary. Your ego will be hurt. You might even find that you hate yourself at the end of the night. That being said, if you persist for a few months, you will find that you have improved. Please keep in mind that your improvement will be much faster if you supplement your wee…	/r/seduction	23/04/19 10:44 PM
2	Is this a shit test? "Is it a shit test"- ehh, maybe. It depends on your definition of shit test as this situation is fairly nuanced. If you have no interest in being her friend, and you want a romantic/sexual relationship with her, you should have been direct and said you don't want to be friends. It sounds like you indicated to her you were fine with her demoting you to friend status. While you did indicate you would eventually want more from the relationship, when and in what capacity this "more" realizes itself …	/r/seduction	23/04/19 10:30 PM
3	Sometimes its so entertaining to watch other guys approach and employ seductive tactics " Was at the bar last night and i had no energy to do any seducing "- I'm just going to assume you never have energy to do "seducing"...	/r/seduction	21/04/19 05:14 PM
0	Is this a shit test? Ehh, It probably isn't a shit test. A shit test is typically designed to test how congruent your behavior is (that you are truly as sexy/confident/independent as you portray yourself to be.) A woman would have no need to shit test you if you have not shown interest in her/have not yet communicated some kind of baseline personality to her. They might be trying to flirt with you, they could also be laughing at you or giggling about something that has nothing to do with you. If you think thes…	/r/seduction	19/04/19 11:24 PM
3	I don't get the process, what am I doing wrong? Dude, I live in the Austin area and go out twice every weekend. Hell, I am going out to 6th street with a friend to game tonight. I am not a pickup god, but I am probably at a solid intermediate level. If you want to game some time, shoot me a DM on reddit.	/r/seduction	19/04/19 10:56 PM
15	One couple, me and single girl are going on roadtrip, need advice If you make moves on this girl, she is in a situation where she is trapped with you. This will make the trip miserable for everyone, and, unless she is already attracted/interested in you, will make her completely repulsed by you. Here is the deal brev, everyone on this trip understands the dynamic. Be very careful how you proceed, but keep a watchful eye for signs from the single girl that she might be interested. For instance, if she manufactures a situation where she can be with you 1 on 1,…	/r/seduction	19/04/19 10:26 PM
6	Female with question for the guys! If you are an attractive woman, it should be pretty easy. Simply maintain good eye contact, gently touch him (stuff like hugs and shoulder touches), make an effort to keep conversation going, create situations where you get to spend time with him 1 on 1, compliment him (compliments related to physical attractiveness work well to communicate sexual interest), get caught checking him out. These are all ways you can communicate interest without crossing any hard social lines. Really, if you are a…	/r/seduction	18/04/19 11:25 PM
1	What does it mean when she says "I'm not interested in hookups, I'm looking for a boyfriend and want to take it slow" It hardly seems like something you could forget... In any case, I usually sit down on my couch and call her to sit next to me. Engage in casual conversation. After a while I'll grab one of her hands and inspect it(usually will comment on rings/bracelts/ comparing hand size/whatever else). When you are making these physical touches make them deliberate and slightly lingering. The idea is that if she doesn't pull away when you are touching her slightly longer than necessary, she isn't rejecting yo…	/r/seduction	10/04/19 07:42 PM
1	What does it mean when she says "I'm not interested in hookups, I'm looking for a boyfriend and want to take it slow" Bro, she was giving you a signal to make a move. "we've met up at my place 3 times" + "how she likes to get to know someone before she fucks them.". Many woman follow the 3 date rule. Moreover, 3 dates is sufficient to get to know someone fairly well. I think she was trying to communicate that you have reached the threshold of her "getting to know you" and she is now ready for you to make a move. Just have her over again and slowly escalate.	/r/seduction	10/04/19 04:18 PM
1	How do I approach a guy at a gig this weekend and how can I be flirty? I want to leave with his number. Yeah, if he has some experience/confidence he might even start reciprocating your touch while on the date. In general, the societal expectation is for men to escalate romantic/sexual interactions. I would play the game as described in my initial comment, and only if it seems like he has no intention of asking for your number or is not confident enough to ask for your number, should you then ask for his number/snapchat/instagram/whatever.	/r/seduction	22/01/19 12:12 AM
3	How do I approach a guy at a gig this weekend and how can I be flirty? I want to leave with his number. 1.Hold strong eye contact with him. 2.Physically touch him. 3.Maintain a genial conversation. If the guy has any game whatsoever, and is interested in you, he will make a move.	/r/seduction	21/01/19 02:56 PM
1	How to approach very direct tinder girls? This in no way answers the OP.	/r/seduction	04/01/19 10:38 PM
-1	Outsourcing my tinder game 1.This is a manipulative and pathetic method of trying to pick up woman. 2.You are asking to get scammed 3.Even if you don't get scammed, you are inevitably going to get a bad deal here. It is significantly easier to get numbers/dates with unattractive woman. Do whatever you want with your money, but this is pretty much an objectively stupid idea.	/r/seduction	31/03/18 09:54 AM