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Da_Famous_Anus/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/20 12:55 AM
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Hidden ExpectationsDa_Famous_Anus/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/20 12:20 PM
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Cock Carousel RiderDa_Famous_Anus/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/12/20 11:40 PM
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DiscussionDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:56 AM
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DebateDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:41 PM
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CMVDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:58 AM
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Question For MenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:52 AM
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Question For WomenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:21 PM
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Question For WomenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:59 AM
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BitchDa_Famous_Anus/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/07/21 08:59 PM
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Question For WomenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:11 AM
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Question For WomenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:42 PM
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Question For WomenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:05 AM
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Question For WomenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:53 PM
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Question For WomenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:08 PM
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Question For MenDa_Famous_Anus/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:48 AM
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$ Bailout $Da_Famous_Anus/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/07/21 09:40 PM
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Thource!
/r/MensRights25/07/26 03:43 AM
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The women who abuse only men stay untouched for eternity. Workplace abuse is only workplace abuse if it’s against women.
/r/MensRights20/07/26 09:01 PM
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Guys are killing themselves, women most affected.
/r/MensRights13/07/26 10:02 PM
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No content, just a negative adjective. Got it.
/r/MensRights08/06/26 09:54 PM
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It’s trained on bofa deez nutz.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 10:35 PM
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You could literally ask these women what if the situation were reversed, they wouldn't even be able to compute getting conscripted. These are people who have every advantage in life and still complain as if they're oppressed.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 08:46 PM
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wtf?
/r/MensRights19/05/26 11:21 PM
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No, I don’t think matriarchs or good women have been ‘de-valued.’ I think women of today have just learned that there are no repercussions for them being terrible people.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 08:15 PM
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There are completely different standards and social laws for men than women. The standards that used to apply to women are being shed as misogynistic oppression. In the end, women have absolutely no duty to take responsibility for anything and there is no mechanism that forces them to be accountable. It really is that men are second class citizens in the effective practice of life.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 05:53 PM
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If we were not capable of violence we would be seen as lesser men. They like to criticize both sides basically so they get to be a victim no matter what the situation is.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 05:01 AM
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It’s reasonable. Don’t let anyone try to shame you for it.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 05:56 AM
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You have to gray rock method, nod as if you agree, and plan your exit.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 07:43 PM
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Well then I should get paid for deez nutz
/r/MensRights13/04/26 06:37 PM
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But crypto scamming is okay
/r/MensRights11/04/26 11:32 PM
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They classify themselves as ‘partnered’ Some of these women proudly admit they’re the side piece to a certain category of man
/r/MensRights28/03/26 02:14 AM
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Women have a partner because they’re all sharing the top men. Of the women who truly are single, they get to use the strong, independent, empowered female narrative.
/r/MensRights27/03/26 09:55 PM
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Sounds like a topic change
/r/MensRights26/03/26 06:40 AM
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Where did I say that?
/r/MensRights25/03/26 09:14 PM
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Sounds like you answered your own question
/r/MensRights25/03/26 08:13 PM
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Withholding affection is abuse.
/r/MensRights25/03/26 08:11 PM
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It’s true
/r/seduction13/03/26 03:01 PM
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Misleading criticism is huge. I never got this from any male educator in my life. I have also gotten it in some form at every stage of development from some female educator, somewhere, even in grad school.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 07:25 PM
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r/ihadastroke
/r/BlackPillScience09/03/26 02:54 AM
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Massive jail time or some kind of violence
/r/MensRights02/03/26 07:42 PM
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Education is an environment that’s toxic to men.
/r/MensRights02/01/26 05:15 AM
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It’s much worse than this actually
/r/MensRights02/01/26 05:14 AM
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Not really. Feminists have no problem taking the advantages and if the woman wins, create the narrative that women are better at tennis inherently.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 10:19 PM
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There's no money in it. It's female dominated and an unfriendly work environment for men and women still want men who earn more than them.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 10:16 PM
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I’m literally in the business. Of course people aren’t going around ‘mentioning quotas’ openly. I’ve already said this before. Publishing is a very big world. There are many different genres of writing. The romance novel situation is a very specific case. This is probably one of the more market driven genres because it’s falling less and less within the purview of traditional publishing. If you know anything about this genre you would know that the bulk of it is going the way of independent, Ama…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 08:23 PM
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No. What I’m telling you is that it’s not.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 03:03 PM
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Hot it is. Cute sounds like a loss.
/r/seduction28/12/25 02:40 PM
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As you should know, publishing is a very big world and there are many different types of writing, which often can be under the purview of the same company. For a nonfiction book on a specialized topic, the identity of the author may not matter. As an example, for any type of contemporary call for fiction, and you can check the releases yourself, right now, the stores as well, they are looking for certain types of identities over others unless you are previously well established, of course. This …
/r/MensRights28/12/25 02:29 PM
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I work in publishing as well, currently, and it is true that there are quotas and preferences for authors of specific identities over others.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 02:03 PM
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That is absolutely not true.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 02:02 PM
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The people doing it are going to own up to it. Are you kidding me? It is already well known that there are quotas.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 12:53 AM
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Publishers don’t want male authors these days
/r/MensRights27/12/25 09:39 PM
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What? How dare you slap an incorrect label on something that I’ve said without even explaining why you out of pocket slapped said label.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 05:34 AM
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Nah. Men support women and have absolutely no problem doing so. Women support only certain men for however long it suits them. The vast majority of men not registering as human.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 10:46 PM
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They want all the advantages of both gender roles with no disadvantages or accountability.
/r/MensRights03/12/25 01:37 AM
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Men build ramps for disabled people, men are firefighters etc You're gonna build Beansie a ramp.
/r/MensRights21/11/25 11:48 PM
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I don’t see fat funny guys doing well at all these days.
/r/seduction19/11/25 09:28 PM
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Any instance of anything happening in life is what it is. But when speaking in general, you're putting together an average of how things tend to go. It's true in my experience and from what I've seen in other people's experience that a man who prioritizes his woman tends to lose out in every conceivable way in the relationship. It's just true. There's no point in trying to convince you, personally, because you're just going to say what you say. Saying what you think you want is really just that.…
/r/seduction18/11/25 09:58 PM
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Set him up for a deez nutz
/r/seduction16/11/25 02:40 AM
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It sounds like a completely different situation that's not like the one described in the post. "Leaning in hard literally" what does that mean? In person? Leaning into you? "he apparently went on a date with someone one night." Yea. It sounds like he went with that option. Duh.
/r/seduction16/11/25 01:35 AM
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What?
/r/seduction16/11/25 12:37 AM
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The job of guys is to initiate with as many women as possible.
/r/seduction15/11/25 11:05 PM
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If she's such a catch out of their league, then why would they stop when she likes them?
/r/seduction14/11/25 06:48 AM
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Men out of your league that is.
/r/seduction14/11/25 05:44 AM
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Life expectancy gap.
/r/MensRights10/11/25 05:58 AM
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I think they just phrased the title wrong.
/r/MensRights27/10/25 04:04 AM
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Are they against paternity fraud? I thought they were for it.
/r/MensRights26/10/25 09:21 PM
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And men are more homeless than women for the same reason there is more rich men than rich women, men take more risk, sometimes they Win and sometimes they lose. And also because women are more social, more family/friendship oriented than men. Incorrect. What you say about men taking more risks is correct. What you say about women having better support systems in society is correct. Those are not the reasons why. Even if we pretend that they are the reasons why, it changes nothing of the inequali…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 08:32 AM
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You can't abort because you can't get pregnant, Clearly you don't understand abortion as an issue. The woman's right to choose means that men have absolutely no say in whether or not a birth happens. Women have complete control over reproduction. If the man wants the child to not be born, he does not have a say. If the man wants the child to be born and the woman doesn't, the man doesn't have a say. In either case, the man doesn't have a say. There's no angle here where men in the equation are g…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 08:25 AM
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Yes but specifically women getting to have desicions over voting doesn't match up with war. This connection has already been established and explained. I'll take the 'Yes' as, you understand my point now. It completely matches up because it has to be enforced every day that there is voting in this country. Do you think the moment humans first entered the world men immediately had more power? Gee. I don't know. Who wins in a fight there? Really? But in my opinion I highly doubt that one gender wa…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 07:58 AM
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Men didn't do anything more for women than did for men, Explain abortion. Explain family court, child support. Explain 75% of homeless are men. Explain resources that go to women only. Explain 60% lighter sentencing on average for women committing the exact same crimes. Explain the social mores around protector providership in relationships. The list goes on. You truly must be joking. And women have always worked, stop acting like men bring everything and women just wait for them giving them eve…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 07:33 AM
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You are saying that giving the right to vite to women was not good for the household No. Again. Stop trying to claim that I said something that I didn't say. Warning number one. That is bad faith conversation strike one. Men didn't do anything for women, letting us vote isn't giving something to us, ut's just equality and respect. Men did not gave me anything, and they should help each other more instead of crying because women get the right to vote. Yes, throughout the whole of human history, m…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 07:08 AM
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And why should men have power over women? Where did I say that men 'should' have power over women? Thank you for proving my point. I'm sorry. I didn't realize you had a point beyond attempting to troll on a Men's Rights sub. Life is not easier for men but women getting right and respect What are you talking about? r/ihadastroke Men get less help because they don't do anything to healp each other So, again. How have women done anything for anyone other than women? women create association for the…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 06:45 AM
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In what world does men fighting in war correlate to women's [anyone's] voting rights? In our world and exactly in the way I previously described. We don't get to have civilization unless there is sovereignty and enforcement in place. It's really not complicated but it is fundamental to the world we live in. Women never asked for that. No one asked women what they think. What are they gonna do about it? We all started off equal in this world and at some point men ended up with more power in socie…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 06:38 AM
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Voting wasn't established as a 'basic right' in the beginning of the United States, at all. It used to be in most states you had to be a land-owning taxpayer to vote. The idea was that these are people who are actually invested in the outcome of policy. If you don't have skin in the game, it's possible for people to simply 'troll vote' and ruin the country for everyone. In fact, it could be something that the most powerful use to their advantage because they have the resources to produce propaga…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 06:09 AM
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That's not what I said at all. Before women had the right to vote, women still had power in society. There were actually a lot of women who were against the women's suffrage movement. As it turned out, many women, and many men, actually, decided that women should have more 'political power' in having the vote. Even if these votes go against the interests of their own household. This does not get done without men giving it. We live in a world, like it or not, that is ultimately enforced by men. T…
/r/MensRights23/10/25 05:47 AM
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No. Here’s one difference: men have demonstrated they’re willing to give up their power. More women now vote in U.S. general elections than men do, for every election since the 60s and by an average margin of 10 million voters. When it comes down to it, women will not curb their selfishness or give up their power to help men. They rationalize this through a false narrative that suggests life is overall easier for men. This allows women to see men as less deserving of help. The implication here i…
/r/MensRights22/10/25 08:23 PM
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Most of the women in these classes don’t really give a shit about yoga either anyways.
/r/seduction21/10/25 10:24 PM
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That’s what I’m saying and that’s why I said it the way that I did. You’re not entitled to give him a blowjob. He doesn’t have to tell you why he declined.
/r/seduction18/10/25 11:45 PM
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Yea I mean. You’re entitled to do whatever you want with him sexually because he’s a man. How dare he decline. Is less of a man now?
/r/seduction18/10/25 10:58 PM
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How dare he? Am I right?
/r/seduction18/10/25 10:46 PM
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And that’s what I came to comment on. They don’t really care about men’s rights.
/r/MensRights16/10/25 06:32 PM
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I don’t really have solutions. There’s currently no authority or social mechanism that forces women to be good people to men. The only thing women might bend to is top 1% Billionaire men. Even here it ends once they get the bag. Women are simply rewarded for being terrible people.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 10:05 PM
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1) Why does the movement come across as so hostile to women and even men who don't fully agree with you? Women can decide if they feel like something is 'coming across to them' as 'hostile' for any or no reason. They call it hostile because they don't like it, also sometimes for no reason. Most of the time, women have no basis at all to call things names that they've convinced themselves they don't like or don't see themselves 'in alignment' with. They require absolutely no reason at all to beha…
/r/MensRights15/10/25 08:05 AM
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No. It’s a very simple singular point. I said what I came here to say and I stand by it. Nice guys are scapegoated for ‘manipulation’ that doesn’t work (how is it ‘manipulation’ when it doesn’t get results?). Meanwhile the effective operators of women are the ones who find success and the evidence of this is found in womens’ complaints. At the end of the day, the nice guys are at least offering the gesture of sometimes actually very genuine nice treatment. But again, how dare they right? Because…
/r/seduction14/10/25 11:31 PM
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Women don’t hate genuinely nice men, it’s exactly the opposite. Some of them actually do and there are reasons for that. One of those reasons is what I discussed in my comment. They hate disingenuously nice men who have ulterior motives. All men who are attracted to a woman might have some type of motive with said woman they are attracted to. This motive doesn't get erased by any type of behavior toward said woman. Women, also, clearly do not like men who are genuinely nice if they don't like th…
/r/seduction14/10/25 09:52 PM
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The most manipulative guys are the assholes who mistreat women and get tons of success. If a nice guy is being ‘manipulative’ through being nice, at least he’s being nice. Women hate genuinely nice men in part because if things go wrong, they won’t be able to win in a reputation destruction contest after the fact.
/r/seduction14/10/25 09:15 PM
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You posted about the young Turks and your most recent comment was about where they are politically.
/r/MensRights12/10/25 05:53 PM
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Yes, the Turks are quasi woke opportunistic critics of whatever they latch onto. Possibly the most left leaning actual political issue they seem to believe in (outside of identity politics) is campaign finance reform, which anywhere else in the civilized first world has already been accomplished or is considered center. They are serving the mainstream by doing this. For all their talk about discussions of masculinity they don’t really care about men. They care about what it does to the Democrati…
/r/MensRights11/10/25 05:42 PM
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They don’t really care. This is a convenient opportunity for mainstream democrats to outcast AOC which is something they’ve been want to do for years. The party will go less woke in appearance only. It won’t help men. This party will continue to support corporate globalism, and it will claim to represent the interests of working class non-men only.
/r/MensRights11/10/25 07:15 AM
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I couldn’t agree more with what he has to say about her comments. That being said, he’s a completely self-professed conservative commentator. And the behavior he has here is one clearly looking to score points. Constant callbacks to the character of liberals and ‘lefties’ as a whole show he’s looking to take it back to that, including the phrase ‘liberals being soft’ lol. The criticism here is clearly not that her words were ‘soft’ and her ‘apology’ is more of a double down than anything else gi…
/r/MensRights11/10/25 12:05 AM
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The OP gave their views on why marriage is advantageous to women and disadvantageous to men. Again. This is not a conversation on the topic of what marriage 'is about.' Read again. I gave a single example from Japan. Japan is not western culture. It says nothing about dead bedrooms in the west. It's an example that is not on the topic. It was the only example you provided on the topic of dead bedrooms. What here do you not understand? There's tons of western men who are the cause of their marria…
/r/MensRights06/10/25 12:49 AM
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but a traditional marriage was not and is not about a gold digger finding a target. No one made a claim attempting to state what marriage 'is about.' Marriage, in the west, in practice, IS effectively as described. This is so in the sense that any woman COULD find a target and have that work for them legally and socially. It's not a controversial thing to say in this day and age. What marriage 'is about' is entirely irrelevant here and is a completely different topic. For example, in Japan... Re…
/r/MensRights05/10/25 11:32 PM
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Yes
/r/MensRights11/09/25 07:13 PM
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None of the stuff in the pro GF is guaranteed. It should all be ‘maybe from time to time’
/r/MensRights14/08/25 07:21 PM
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Well done for proving my point and outing yourself at the same time.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 09:44 PM
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In what countries do men live longer?
/r/MensRights09/07/25 09:32 PM
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To assess power, you have to understand what power is.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 08:56 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights09/07/25 08:52 PM
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No, it's the premise of my comment.
/r/MensRights17/05/25 10:01 PM
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And yet some are as this is the premise.
/r/MensRights17/05/25 09:45 PM
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It kind of doesn’t matter. Desirable men are desirable. The ones that are desirable will not have a preference for older women if they have a choice, hence the ‘desirable’ part of the equation.
/r/MensRights17/05/25 09:29 PM
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Yes. No feminists hate men because hating men isn’t as bad.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 09:01 PM
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It's not 'privilege' to be born with this or that anatomy under the presumption that one suffers 'worse' than the somehow. That's a victimhood Olympics narrative that asserts, somehow, men 'owe' women because they're born with vaginas? It's bullshit. When people talk about 'gendered' privilege, it's about societal treatment. Attempting to lean on 'anatomical' difference is not a part of that conversation. So, again, you've listed absolutely nothing that pertains to privilege though you did vague…
/r/MensRights05/04/25 03:04 AM
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So basically nothing and you’re not going to mention the advantages women have, just refer to them.
/r/MensRights04/04/25 09:55 PM
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And yet purportedly 18 out of the 255 female participants admitted to having already falsely accused men. 101 out of the 255 responded that they would consider doing such a thing in the future. I don’t really know what kind of ‘pie in the sky’ makes this acceptable.
/r/MensRights22/03/25 01:28 AM
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Imagining a situation where a person would choose to do something is different than simply just imagining doing something.
/r/MensRights21/03/25 09:10 PM
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We don’t get to do civilization if we don’t have security. Men provide security, men enforce the laws we decide to legislate. Health institutions tend to prioritize women’s health above men’s. And educational institutions are similar, probably even more female leaning these days. And yes women take this situation for granted.
/r/MensRights05/03/25 02:02 AM
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They don’t want male writing. If a woman writes it, they’ll publish whatever it is regardless.
/r/MensRights06/02/25 08:47 PM
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It’s schrodinger’s patriarchy for sure.
/r/MensRights05/02/25 08:46 PM
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Divorce
/r/MensRights19/01/25 06:19 PM
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Data that doesn't mean what you think it does.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 09:56 AM
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Yea. Not buying this line of thinking for one second. Just look at the disparity in overall life expectancy for starters. Furthermore, the men who are marriage material are a data set of men successful enough to have marriage as an option.
/r/MensRights05/01/25 11:39 PM
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We’ve collectively decided that crimes against women are illegal. We also have a culture where men protect women. This is not so the other way around and yet women are ‘constantly afraid’
/r/MensRights05/01/25 11:10 PM
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So, yes, the language around ‘sexual assault’ has moved to include things that aren’t ’assault.’ Meanwhile, whenever men get literally assaulted by women it doesn’t count.
/r/MensRights05/01/25 11:00 PM
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Men are the primary victims of violence
/r/MensRights05/01/25 10:58 PM
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No. I don’t think divorced men have a leg up over divorced women. At all.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 07:51 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights23/12/24 08:26 AM
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Both the female lead characters are beyond psycho
/r/MensRights17/12/24 04:19 AM
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Body Heat 1981 The Last Seduction 1994
/r/MensRights17/12/24 02:14 AM
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Yes. How dare men have rights
/r/MensRights12/12/24 09:39 PM
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No. Your dad knows that some men are either not ready or not good for his daughter. He’s looking out for your best interests as a human that he knows very well, probably better than you know yourself. This is a man who has the honesty enough to call out the bullshit that men do in life particularly when they are your age. He’s honest enough to inform you that some men are immature, might not have sincere intentions for you, and might not have their shit together or may never get their shit toget…
/r/MensRights26/11/24 08:22 AM
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Maybe you’re just interested or curious. Maybe you change your mind later. If there’s any level of interest, it needs to be communicated. Men are dragged over the coals for ‘not communicating’ and it’s bullshit because we all know the group that expects the other side to be mind readers is women. Look, you all asked to be treated the same as men in every way. How about you start taking on a sliver of what’s expected from men? We aren’t asking you to work on an oil rig. We’re simply asking you to…
/r/seduction25/11/24 11:00 PM
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Yes. Too much can go wrong if it’s not made abundantly clear that you’re specifically interested in a guy romantically. Women have used plausible deniability so much to the point where it’s literally unsafe for men to assume anything. And it’s sad. But if you’re a man today, you are always running the risk of serious consequences unless the woman literally says she sees you that way. If you’re the one here complaining, you need to be asking men for some numbers.
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:25 PM
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Think about the possibility of these viewpoints being funded and encouraged.
/r/MensRights04/11/24 06:59 AM
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women most affected
/r/MensRights02/11/24 06:03 AM
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Now we're changing the topic to rape and violence. Classic. >Women also have to worry about rape, getting beat up, getting killed, men also can be gold diggers Why do men not have to worry about these things? Men are the primary victims of violence. Men die significantly more than women. >Women don’t kill men as much as men kill women. Proxy violence. Men are more capable of violence. This doesn't mean that women are less violent. They are less physically able to successfully do it. Women instig…
/r/seduction31/10/24 07:47 AM
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>OP has been nothing but gracious towards you I don't have a problem with her tone. We've been having a conversation that started out pretty structured. I don't think anyone has a need for the tone police but it sounds like you've stepped in and volunteered to say she has had a 'gracious' tone. It actually hasn't gotten to the point where you commented on my tone exactly despite mentioning hers. So, thank you for bringing up her tone? > into this self-victimising narrative. For pointing out some…
/r/seduction31/10/24 05:09 AM
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>Where is the problem? I feel like this has already been covered pretty extensively.
/r/seduction30/10/24 11:48 PM
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I'm not throwing any shame your way for seeking out the right kind of guys and properly hitting on them. You're probably going to have to in order to find quality. I think that people need to date differently and grow up. That explains why I'm here. I've given up on actively looking for women as the juice isn't worth the squeeze and I have too much to lose. Your fear is you 'might get ghosted.' I have a lot more to lose than just getting ghosted. If you get involved with the wrong woman, I could…
/r/seduction30/10/24 11:46 PM
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Saying that an anecdotal experience is an anecdotal experience is not the same as saying that an anecdotal experience is invalid - it might not be a valid basis for convincing someone of anything. It certainly is invalid in probably most societies all over the world to use one bad dating experience of ghosting that's pretty common to most people and use that as a basis for restructuring to a highly fear based outlook on dating, and men as a whole, without acknowledging that you are also an adult…
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:58 PM
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>he just butters up new women while he’s in a relationship before the exit. I've already acknowledged that people lie, do fake things, and change their minds. This isn't unique to women only. If this is happening to you a lot, you should probably ask yourself - what are you selecting for? Turns out superficial charm guy worked on you. The guy you actually want to be with, might be completely invisible to you. This is what I've been talking about pretty much from the start. >instead i got ghosted…
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:39 PM
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There's nothing bad faith about saying what you're bringing to the table is anecdotal. Men have their lived experience denied all the time, especially online. More people default to defense of women in general even in situations where they're in the wrong. There's nothing bad faith about examining your own account of yourself which states that a thing happened to you once. One time. Already discussed it.
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:28 PM
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Not sure why you downvoted me. I actually brought extensive content on all these issues and all you had to offer was "this one thing happened to me one time" and "I've had married men hit on me." Please.
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:20 PM
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>He was vulnerable with me. I couldn’t see through the act and I can guarantee most men can suspend belief long enough to enjoy an escort. Look. We don't really know. When women don't get what they want from men, our general default assumption is that the man was bad or he did bad things with malicious intent. You know what women do all the time that is completely defended by society? They just change their mind for any or no reason. Women are allowed to change their minds. Men aren't. Once a ma…
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:03 PM
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>You’re saying this to someone who has literally been played by a player before. Lots of men say all the right things, warm you up, express long term intentions, lie and future fake with you. Firstly, I've been played by women as well. Women might do it differently (after sacrificing everything you have "My feelings changed") but it's just as devastating. Even further we live in a time where women's selfishness is celebrated. Women ruin families in a way where it's legally permitted and socially…
/r/seduction30/10/24 10:03 PM
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No. It’s an analogy and I’ve said what I have to say about it.
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:30 PM
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?
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:27 PM
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This is kind of a really messed up analogy. Going to a bar full of escorts is not where men who are looking for a relationship would start. If a guy is going to a bar full of escorts, he's going there to have the kind of dynamic that guys have with escorts. If a guy is going there for that kind of transaction, specifically, there's a lot he's not going to care about and this would include, particularly, interest in getting to know you kind of stuff. It's kind of disgusting, actually, that you ma…
/r/seduction30/10/24 09:10 PM
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No
/r/MensRights25/10/24 08:56 PM
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No. How bout we start with punishing female pedophiles proportionally in the first place.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 08:56 PM
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I frankly see very little anti-man sentiment in the activist/organizing spaces I frequent; Yea, right.
/r/MensRights15/10/24 06:56 PM
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Please walk away my friend.
/r/MensRights12/10/24 07:55 PM
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That’s kind of the point of bringing up power and class in America and how it actually works in practice. For example there are tax laws and wealthy individuals who successfully get away with paying no tax or far less than what they should.
/r/MensRights09/10/24 12:02 AM
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I don’t think it will be passed either but not based on the principle of power dynamics you point out. While most representatives are still male, you have to acknowledge 2 things. Firstly, women have outvoted men in every major election since the 60s by an average of 10 million more votes. Secondly, which is perhaps more direct to your claim, the legislative class, quite often skirts the very regulations they set for others. Men at the top control men at the bottom in ways that suit their needs.…
/r/MensRights08/10/24 08:08 PM
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It’s not wage gap it’s income gap.
/r/MensRights08/10/24 08:00 PM
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Looks like they got canceled
/r/MensRights08/10/24 07:57 PM
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Because they can get sex, they can get a relationship if they want.
/r/seduction23/09/24 08:50 PM
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My mom is in hater camp and it’s been impossible growing up male under a single mother who essentially hates men.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 09:09 PM
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Because there have been more female voters in every American election since 1962 by an average of 10 million votes.
/r/MensRights04/09/24 08:53 PM
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"Fourth, some women got into relationships with Germans to protect their families. Not a pretty fact, but that’s war. People will do anything for protection, food and survival. You cannot judge them if you hadn’t experienced it." Yes. When the enemy tribe invades your territory and murders your men, it's a great show of loyalty to open your arms and legs to them. Survival is so paramount that we 'cannot even judge' women who do this. Talk about truly disgusting.
/r/MensRights03/09/24 09:16 PM
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Really, in the end, loyalty based on feelings isn’t loyalty at all.
/r/MensRights03/09/24 03:49 PM
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The difference was male coerced collaborators were shot. Women had their hair cut as a form of public humiliation.
/r/MensRights03/09/24 03:03 PM
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And their feelings can change in an instant.
/r/MensRights03/09/24 03:00 PM
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Basically proves his point.
/r/MensRights30/08/24 07:29 PM
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The problem is not that all women are like that. The problem is that enough of them are because they can get away with it.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 08:00 PM
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All you need to do is just read what his point was. Whether the marriage is ‘arranged’ or not there are still the socially understood expectations that he listed that are one way expecting something from men only and judging them. Both families are judging him, what are they judging the woman for? Nothing.
/r/MensRights12/08/24 10:55 PM
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Arranged marriage is fucked on both sides but the stuff this guy mentioned was on one side not both.
/r/MensRights12/08/24 09:44 PM
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It’s more like you’re handing out ice cream to fat women and charging men triple as well in a town that has no food.
/r/MensRights08/08/24 08:48 PM
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No. It's simply easier for women to cheat.
/r/MensRights06/08/24 11:04 PM
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What about the woman's infidelity?
/r/MensRights06/08/24 11:04 PM
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Would she really be though?
/r/MensRights06/08/24 11:03 PM
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No. He presented a situation where he persuaded a woman. Which is pretty remarkable. So remarkable that he wrote a post about it. He vaguely referred to ‘facts that he dropped.’ I was interested in the kind of factual substance that might resonate with such women and actually work and if not work at least inspire an amount of empathy toward men. Upon further elaboration there were facts, more details about the delivery and the admission that he was likely dealing with an exceptionally reasonable…
/r/MensRights05/08/24 10:41 PM
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Dude. I don’t know why you’re so defensive. I’m just trying to understand what happened.
/r/MensRights05/08/24 09:49 PM
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We get it but let us determine that for ourselves by telling us what you actually said right?
/r/MensRights05/08/24 08:45 PM
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Well I think it’s important since you’re presenting a narrative about persuading a woman. I lay tons of facts on the ground and get called a misogynist. It’s like a religion to these people. So I’m wondering how on Earth you were able to get this kind of response.
/r/MensRights05/08/24 08:27 PM
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But like what evidence did you present?
/r/MensRights05/08/24 06:53 PM
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What did you say to her though?
/r/MensRights05/08/24 05:24 PM
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I think this holds true for a lot of opinions that women in general may have.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 06:35 AM
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It’s simply to say that there’s no objectivity to a ‘household standard’ and women can bully men by always claiming authority over the household realm. This allows women to complain about stuff even if it’s just fine. By the word of some women, some things are never clean enough even if they are. This is also not to say that all women do this. It’s not that every woman does this, it’s that any woman can do this if they feel like it and everyone knows it for the destructive bullshit that it is. Y…
/r/MensRights25/07/24 08:22 PM
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The ‘burden’ of household work is just another form of dick swinging that women use to measure themselves against other household keepers and to control men. When men have a lot of money they just hire a fucking maid service. At 550k a year you can order a fucking maid service.
/r/MensRights25/07/24 06:23 PM
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"in terms of gender equality women are in the minority." You have me at this. This may very well be the perception of things. But if we're being honest, what do people even mean by 'minority' anymore? By population there are more women than men in the US by .51 percent (a difference of 3 million people). More women have voted in every US election since 1964 by an average of 10 million more voters. What even is that? I disagree with the premise.
/r/MensRights24/07/24 02:50 PM
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I think mens rights should be acknowledged across the political spectrum. This means it really shouldn’t matter what part of the political spectrum you’re on. I’m not sure that it helps the cause for him to show his cards on politics. I’ve listened to him for years. It’s kind of cringe when he gets into politics. I think it’s an easy way for people to write him off. I listened to basically 5 years of him denouncing women for doxxing and canceling men. In a recent video he rethinks this when Trum…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 11:38 PM
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I live in the Pacific Northwest in a major city. It’s extremely feminist here. If I were to speak up on any topic related to male suffering, I would be met with hate and called a misogynist. The women in my family are also pretty awful but people very much allow them to be awful.
/r/MensRights06/07/24 06:08 PM
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He was not talking about someone who had sex at all. Strawman. When you get pregnant you must have had sex. You are responsible for your sexual choices and actions and should be held responsible for your sexual choices and actions the same as everyone else. If you can't accept responsibility for your sexual choices and actions then you probably aren't responsible enough to have sex in the first place. These adults are pregnant from having sex, therefore they should be held responsible for that. …
/r/MensRights04/06/24 12:21 AM
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No, it's not. You didn't have a response.
/r/MensRights04/06/24 12:09 AM
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He was not talking about someone who had sex at all. I know what he said. I quoted him. He was talking about children not being able to consent to medical procedures in general. I understand that and I responded to that by simply saying that the difference between the way we treat children and adults in one serious legal respect is that we hold adults fully accountable for their choices and actions. How many contraceptives do these people need? The point was just that the fact that kids can't co…
/r/MensRights04/06/24 12:08 AM
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Yea. I read all that and quoted you. Should be self-explanatory.
/r/MensRights03/06/24 11:04 PM
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Friend, that's because they're children. You're talking about a person who is 'adult' enough to consent to sex and choose to do so without contraception, and then choose no morning pill, gets pregnant and then wants to click the 'undo' button. If they're not children, then this is a person who isn't mature and responsible enough to engage in sexual activities. If we are to play the 'woman' card in this situation, letting them off the hook according to their whims, we're effectively treating them…
/r/MensRights03/06/24 10:38 PM
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The woman deserves the right to bodily autonomy, She has the right to not have sex if she doesn't want to. She has the right to seek birth control or not. She has the right to the morning after pill. If only women gave us a fraction of the amount of grace we give them. If it's rape or there's a medical thing, fine, I agree. But in the end, it's not as if women are guaranteed always going to abort a child that a man wants to keep, it's that she can.
/r/MensRights03/06/24 09:41 PM
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Maybe. But that’s not the question of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:59 PM
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I’m not going to disagree with you but does that then invalidate what I have to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:59 PM
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I wouldn’t. Imagine a world where it's either that or be single your whole life. No need to “flip out,” it’s just a red flag because this is common language for people with certain attitudes to use. Context obviously matters. If I were a guy I would definitely run if she used “scrotes.”lol Okay. I will scale it back from 'flip out' to 'bothered by it at all.' And yea I think 'scrotes' is a bit extreme. I point it out because while women take issue with the use of the word 'female' as an 'extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:19 PM
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Of course. But just because they're RP doesn't mean they're inherently an asshole, and just because they're an asshole doesn't mean they're inherently RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:58 PM
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I certainly respect women who know what they want and are able to effectively and respectfully communicate those things. I don't even have a problem with the conditional part, maybe I see it as a little unfair. I also think men want their women to be happy and are willing to work hard for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:27 PM
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There's lots of reasons to not want to date someone. Just because you don't want to date someone for any or no characteristic, doesn't mean you've correctly identified them as RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:24 PM
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beer? Damn. Lots of guys like beer. into active disrespect of others. We already have a word for that. It's called 'assholes.'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:20 PM
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It's simply to say that many people have a completely different concept of what RP actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:14 PM
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men are pretty unbothered by things, I don't know that they are unbothered though. Tolerating something annoying doesn't make it not annoying. Does that mean he loves her more? Not sure if this was the direction I was going exactly. We were talking about conditional vs unconditional. Maybe, or maybe he's just more "meh" about things. This is definitely an interpretation. Not sure if that's actually what's happening. He wouldn't care if she left her socks on the floor every day, but she would. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:12 PM
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You will know current RP by their blatant misogyny. Kinda hard to disagree with. Pretty obvious one though. Give us a real world example? how can you be so vitriolic towards the thing you believe will bring you happiness? Good question for a lot of hetero feminists as well, no? Old school RP is about I tend to see that this is what RP is really about before it got adopted and twisted by people looking to sell cracked relationship advice and sensationalize ratchet behavior. finding women who want…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:55 PM
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I was more thinking in line with telling women you aren't RP when you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:44 PM
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Approaching dating as an adversarial game. Are we supposed to tolerate women who do this? “Females” as a noun. I still don't understand this. I get the angle, but men don't flip out when being called 'males.' I mean FDS goes a step further and calls men 'scrotes' lol. Really? Referring to himself as “alpha” or “sigma.” I think that shit's kinda weird too. There are little language choices that can give clues Such as? A lot of manosphere guys like to follow little scripts, and some can’t seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:44 PM
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Why would a man lie about being RP? Maybe to hit it and quit it? Obvious, no? Why would I want to keep dating a man who lied or joked about being RP? You gotta know that he lied first, right?. If he says something ironically and gets the laugh then it might be a joke, no? Aren’t women supposed to be “choosing better”, aka not men who hold sexist or misogynistic views, I think so. I think we're having a discussion about how to for sure screen guys. who think they are funny/unserious? Sometimes gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:28 PM
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It's a really interesting idea. "🎵 ..I wan-na know what love is....🎵" I feel like mens' love for women is unconditional to a point but probably more unconditional on the spectrum, comparatively. And I think part of this is the design that women, once they have children, love their children unconditionally. I think that men in romantic relationships typically don't experience that kind of love from their woman. I think that women tend to care a lot about what men can do for them moreso than the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:18 PM
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Well then what’s the point? Describing it is what I mean by helpful. If other people aren’t able to grasp it in tangible terms then you’re not describing it very well which does not help others understand. If you’re trying to describe it to someone else, no one is going to understand if it’s all based on your personal feelings in any given moment and loose numbers. Doesn’t sound like you have it figured out at all if everything is so vague. If you don’t want to help other people understand then …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:25 AM

Again. Super helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:01 AM

Oh, a feelings based answer. How helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:40 AM
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A significant number. Way to narrow it down. What number is that? None that are specifically red pill, no. Well, there's a lot of RP beliefs that aren't specifically RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:19 AM
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He expresses belief in red pill beliefs, All RP beliefs or just 2. And which ones? Are there any RP beliefs that you find acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:16 AM
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I don't know if this can be said for certain. This also is getting way off topic. We could consult some really rich philosophy on friendship but that doesn't mean that 'most people' agree. Deep Fried Frenz is a song about friendship. "I had no idea I should've been concerned about my friend" You're really reaching with this one. There is no doubt that I have concern for my friends. There's a difference between 'concern' and having information that lets you know you should be very concerned, in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:13 AM
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If you have a problem with how I defined it, then either give your own definition or quit whining. I'm allowed to go with what you think red pill is and disagree with it if I do. Not sure what your problem is. Nobody said otherwise. I'm just going to link the wikipedia page for straw manning every time you do this. It sounds like you're more interested in calling something 'strawman' and running away from the subject rather than actually attempting to clarify what it is you actually mean to say.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:13 AM

Is this one of those word game puzzles, like Susie is taller than Jacob but Jacob is twice as short as Lucy? Now, within a half an inch, how tall is Susie? Like who's who and what's your point? How do I know what else you would look like? Is this for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:57 AM
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Now here's how i know this is a lie. Ypu became spiky with the feminist egalitarian lady who i know for a fact has very good, compassionate takes and never uses a bad tone. Just like i said: the mask drops. There could be any sort of reason or no reason at all for whatever it is you're mentioning. But you insist that the only explanation is that I'm putting on some kind of 'mask' for some reason. What reason is that? I won't even mention the fact that I can't even imagine what could possibly be …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:21 AM
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I think. Like. A lot of women want men to be providers, no? I'm starting to think I just don't know anything anymore. What do you think about the guy's question to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:02 AM
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You had me until this one: Another guy talked about how his ex moved in with him but he didn’t charge her any rent because he believes men should be the providers. What, would it have been better for the guy to charge her rent?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:58 AM
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Hence i don't consider myself a feminist so i don't accidentally get bundled up with misandrists. That's really cool. It makes me unreasonably happy to hear this. You, on the other hand, keep the RP label. I don't believe in labels. I also think that what a lot of people are saying RP is, really isn't RP. It would be similar to if I were to say - this misandry stuff and this non-sense, that's not what feminism is. I think that 'feminism' now means so many different things to different people tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:54 AM
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ignore the red flag The only reason you've given for it being a red flag is that you've called it a red flag. give him a chance!" meme Cool. You do you. Don't give any guy a chance ever. Doesn't mean it makes sense. You could say the same about avoiding any obvious red flag like criminal history, past DV, cheating. Just because they could be good for you doesn't mean the trait isn't a red flag. Yea, but I didn't say that now did I? XD. Serious question: Do you think that men should consider it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:29 AM
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My very first question to you was what you were defining as "bad RP men." No. I just said RP = bad man, per the narrative. You had the opportunity to define Red Pill That's not what I'm here to do I named specific traits associated with red pill men who are toxic in relationships Some can be toxic in a relationship and not be RP. "men who are shitty in any way shape or form." I made an honest attempt to summarize what you said and distill it into a brief description. It was based off what you sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:29 AM

Cool. Thank you for giving us a very useful response.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:46 AM
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There's a difference between a man lying to you and a man specifically lying to you about being red pill or not. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:46 AM
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we probably don’t share belief systems Are you a slave to your belief system? I thought love conquered all? Red pill people tend to believe a lot in strong gender roles in relationships How strong are you talking about? I don't know. I feel like some guys are like - as long as I don't have to wear a dress if I don't want to. Is that a crime? I think whoever is best at something should do it. I feel like this is the premise of gender roles in the first place. I couldn't imagine why an RP or a non…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:28 AM
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Okay, so it sounds like what you're saying is that you will know they are RP by their misogyny. Do we have an example that's more specific? Like what is something you can observe to identify that in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:04 AM
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Help me understand what you're saying here. Any type of buzzword in particular? How do buzzwords relate to self-awareness exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:01 AM
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I don't know if you can 'always tell' anything but that does sound like it might be a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:00 AM
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I navigate "life with men" just fine, thanks. I was speaking of your belief not you as a person. Either way, I'm not convinced. Either fucking define red-pilled men or let us have our own definitions You can define it however you want, doesn't mean that your definition will necessarily at all be in touch with reality. IDGAF what "the other side" It's a conversation about ideas. No one cares about what you actually think about that specific example. It was an analogy. Glad you understand how absu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:40 AM
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I made the post. Are you trying to claim that you wrote my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:48 AM
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i don't really see any similarity or connection between the two. Yes. They are poles with a range in between. How do you spot an RPer with certainty then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:42 AM
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How do you tell if a guy is 'Red Pill' and not just a guy who has a basic level of respect for himself as a man? ^ This was the question. You can suck and not be a bad person. You can be a bad person who is very good at pretending not to suck. ^ This was your response. Try again or don't, idgaf. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:51 PM
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So, you're not going to answer the question. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:40 PM
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You can also be really effective in dating, charismatic, successful in your career, and still be a bad person. I don't understand why you felt compelled to ask me if I understand human beings? It also doesn't look like you've answered the question at all. Thanks for your response I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:36 PM
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I agree there are many factors at play which is I why I'm trying to get to the bottom of this in all of its complexity. Charming + asks what i bring to the table = 👎 Charming + easy going, fun to be around = 🫦 I don't disagree. I do consider these fairly obvious. Ask your grifters why RP narrative is so different. I think that what some people think 'RP' is, is actually just the grifters. Grifters are grifters, RP is RP. Aaand the stoic mask dropped and emotions spill. I have not attempted to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:33 PM
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you asked if i would trust a man i am identifying as bad, sorry, does that not seem like a dumb question to you? No. I asked you if you trust men who lie to you. You can go read it again. I see why you're confused now. i have no idea what you are claiming to be sarcastic about. I see that you're confused about this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:26 PM
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Once again, we're talking about generalizations. Right but the process of identifying RP men is all about generalizing in the first place. That's the point. In general, TRP men are conservative, Some aren't. while also seek casual sex It really isn't about casual sex. they heavily rely on hot and cold games. You can be RP and not do this. Oh, they're fucked up. So you're perfectly okay with telling these women that they are fucked up for liking what they like? I support you but good luck with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:24 PM
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Okay. 'Red Pill' means men who are shitty in any way shape or form. Got it. Very useful. so they are usually very concerned with their public image. And women are not? Isn't public image a little important in this day and age if you expect to have a career? What if you're Mayor? Are you still not allowed to be concerned about your public image? Help me understand. known for 10 years commits DV, rape, or child abuse, then suddenly nobody knew he was like that. Oof. I mean, to be fair, sometimes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:16 PM
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i'm not sure how you are confused by this. It's not confusing at all. Help me understand why you think there's any confusion on my end. I would end a relationship with someone who said they are a bad person whether they are telling the truth or lying. So sarcasm is not permitted around you. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:56 PM
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Husband did quite a lot of things that TRP recommends against. It's really not a hard concept. Even lots of men who have pretty focused RP beliefs may also occasionally do things that aren't in line with whatever behaviors you're using to define RP. Which RP is more about men are allowed to do whatever they want to do and what works for them. The people who are giving hard line dating advice are the grifters or they're centered specifically around how you get a girl in Miami or Las Vegas. Basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:54 PM
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RP men being charming or charismatic?!? They wouldn't be RP in that case. This doesn't make any sense. Men who come across as charming or charismatic might precisely be so because they're pick up artists. Foreign concept to you? Something like how lucky i am to meet him or things like this. This is an ego-centric douchebag and may have no bearing at all on whether or not he has RP beliefs. Accountability, complaining about how women aren't what they used to be, Anyone who expects more from women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:49 PM
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How do you tell if a guy is 'Red Pill' and not just a guy who has a basic level of respect for himself as a man? ^ This is the question. Red pill people are usually on the conservative side and are often right leaning. Not always. What if they're just apolitcal? So if I’m on a date with a man and I tell him I like going to Drag Queen Brunch, if he grimaces and says that stuff is weird and gross, well now I know we’re not compatible. A lot of these things are easy. Some of them aren't. Just becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:45 PM
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I don't understand the strategy beyond the general advice to recoil from things that you don't like. Obviously, if a guy says something outrageous it makes it very easy. Sometimes it's not easy though and that's more to the point of the conversation. It's worked so far. Do you really know this for certain though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:41 PM
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Simply saying 'I married my husband that's how I know he's not that' doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:38 PM
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So you trust men who lie to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:36 PM
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Venn Diagram of "a guy who knows himself, respects himself, and thus has healthy standards and boundaries in his life and relationships" and a red-pilled man has no overlap. This might be what you believe which is fine. The basis of this belief is probably not likely to give you a useful road map for navigating life with men in reality. The other side could just say the same thing about feminist women. Doesn't mean it has any truth to it at all. You have as well done everything aside from actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:36 PM
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First i'd look for possible hints: fit, keeps a cool mask like emotionless or stoic, lack of charisma, charm, humor and wit. Usually it's the other way around, no? nagging Nagging you to do what? manoshpere buzz words. Such as what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:28 PM
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Dating-wise TRP concentrates on "spinning plates" This is not necessarily true. I think some of this is simply to say that, since it's easy for women to get interest and acquire dates, then men should be advised to keep their options open until happy, committed dating actually happens. Because as much as women criticize men for 'spinning plates,' many women do that themselves in the background and if they're not literally spinning plates as in dating, they often will have a roster of interested …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:27 PM
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I used to go on their Instagram click on "following" and search for manosphere creators and peep the meme pages. Okay. So you infocreep. That's actually a good strategy. What if you don't have their social media? What if you don't find the evidence there? Some people only use Insta for business nowadays. I think men are smart and cultured enough to handle their socials appropriately these days. I think this has limited value. You'd maybe catch the guys who are the worst about it. If it's a dude …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:20 PM
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What if he says he's 'Red Pill' but that totally just doesn't seem like him based on who he is and how he treats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:11 PM
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'Red Pill' is defined as whatever it is you think 'Red Pill' is. Hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:10 PM
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I don't think that a man who is in TRP is inherently a bad person. The context is dating. And many women try to avoid dating RP men. Maybe it's not a value judgement on them as people so much but it certainly would disqualify them as dating material - hence the use of the word 'bad' in the context of dating (to date). You're kind of making it into something else at that point if you're digging into an overview of their moral character and that's not what the question was necessarily intended to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:09 PM
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Harder or easier is the question. So, as far as that goes, it’s the only relevant thing. It’s hard to follow your logic through this tangent you’ve taken us on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:01 PM
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I have to ask why you don't chase then? I believe at the time what I was describing was a situation where I had minimal interest in them and there may have been minimal interest both ways or no interest in my direction. Let's assume that's the situation. I'm not going to chase someone who presents themselves as potentially not interested in me (I mean that sounds kind of cringe no?). Conversely, if I'm possibly open but not really that interested in the woman, I probably wouldn't 'chase' them to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:22 PM
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It's been said here before that guys would be much more comfortable having their first experiences with a woman who is also a virgin as well. I really don't think most men here or anywhere actually think this. I chose to go for women more experienced than me, Like I said. However, I wonder if having to do it this way is really so horrible for most guys. I don't think that it is and, again, I don't think most guys really see it as an issue at all. In a sense it's learning the hard way where the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:48 PM
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An average-faced man can do “fine”. An average-faced man who has something going for him and through a lot of work can do 'fine.' Male fashion is so basic that anyone can do it I don't know that this is true. You have to keep in mind that your audience is women, and they're the ones who care about it more. If 'anyone' can do it, why do so many consciously dress poorly? aka confidence, not simping and not being desperate, help you in dating. They have to like you first. How do you get them to lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:25 PM
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Nope. I have a pretty good body and below average face, Then what makes you think it would make dating easier as a man? I’m not motivated to dress up either with cosmetics and fashion/style Not knowing how to dress is not going to help you as a man. not charming or empathetic or emotional, Not going to help you as a man. dump friends and partners easily. Not going to help you as a man. People do like my competence, skills and leadership, but find me brusque and too logical Not going to help you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:07 PM
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Are you not attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:00 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:58 PM
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I see boss masculine girls date easily all the time. They can order up a man the way one does a coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:37 PM
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One of the most frustrating things about it is, you might be doing something for the sake of one of those 'tests' despite the fact that said tests actually don't work the way they think they do. As in, despite such precautions other men have passed those tests and turned out to be the very thing they were trying to screen in the beginning. So, their tests don't even work because they're looking at the wrong things, and yet even truly good men have to suffer through them. And in the process of al…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:14 AM
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Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:07 AM
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It seems like it would be pretty easy to understand, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:52 AM
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My resistance to having to play a female body as a man when I know what the men in my family would be like? But don't pretend you're being reasonable by saying, "hey ladies, would you want to be a man with your height and build????" I'm giving you inches that you don't have. I'm not giving you a foot and a half. Fuck no, but approximately 98% of men are not a woman's height and build. You won't even give me average height because....you're so reasonable and rational? Yea. Because you're fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:55 AM
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In addition to being fit (maybe enough for a hookup), for a non-superficial relationship women have to have a lot more qualities that appeal at least to the type of guys she likes. No shit. And if you read you'd know that the female version of myself would have no problem with that. My husband didn't marry me and my bf's didn't date me bc I was just fit. Again. It helps the introduction. Already been discussed. Summary: you sound like you're generalizing and simplifying what women want in dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:52 PM
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5'8" is enough to make you want to change genders I don't have a problem with how I was born. It's how people treat you without knowing anything about you. Btw, women have to do a lot more than just be fit, tho that's a good start. Being fit, gets you in the door. I never in any way suggested that that's all women need and if you actually read what I wrote you would know that I would have no problem in areas beyond fitness and superficial appeal. I already have a lot to offer, I just don't get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:51 PM
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No it’s not complicated Right. You would understand that you're not them. Again, not complicated. It’s easier for a 35 year old man to start a family than than a 35 year old woman. It's not complicated to read the comments on here. Despite the fact that there are biological truths that I agree with you on, there's a loud contingent on here that cites an increase of sperm degradation at a certain age. They use a study to then conclude that any such child would 100% be born hideously deformed in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:05 PM
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In general, however, I am very happy being a woman. I wouldn’t change it at all. A very unnecessarily long way to find out that we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:56 PM
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It's not my fault you don't understand. I've happily clarified it to many people, just not this one because we already know she doesn't care anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:52 PM
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Okay. That's an opinion. And you can feel however you want to about that. Perhaps you should talk to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:50 PM
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Again, my brothers have never been without a relationship since high school, Again. You are not your brothers. It's really not complicated. Men don’t have to get all their ducks in a row by 33 if they want a few kids. I truly don't understand the basis on which you consider this to be true. Are you new to this sub? There's a huge swell of hate for older men all over this place, online, and in society. “where are all the good men” and watch men rag gleefully on I thought that place was about wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:49 PM
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Girls need their fathers. I'm not saying they don't but there is a who needs who more as children develop into their roles and expectations that society thrusts on them. And I think you know that. Trust me. Trust me, bro. They want their daddy to love, protect, and care for them. I never suggested otherwise. But again, in terms of them developing into adults, some models are better for a reason. To just cast aside a child because they aren’t the gender you wanted is very damaging and painful. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:44 PM
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Of course it not “all” men, but it’s still lots of men Your brothers are just a few men. Again, we are big, loud people, extroverted and opinionated, Have you ever thought to maybe work on this? You do realize that men put in work too, right? It definitely would have been easier to be a man contemplating marriage and children at 28 than a woman. I don't know if that's necessarily the case and largely depends on other factors such as how well off you are and how well you're able to get women inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:20 PM
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if it wasn't "acceptable" (to some) for women to be less go-getting. There must be something specific to your area or social circle because I don't really see it being like that. Even if it's your dream job it's still work. A lot of times people find jobs in their passion and the job part ruins the passion for them. It sounds all fun and games like it might be motivating, because you're not forced to so you won't really know that feeling. I would 1000% trade places with my female counterpart. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:17 PM
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You lost me at ‘men don’t have trouble dating.’ Your brothers might be doing fine, but, again, that’s not all or the majority of men. Kind of hard to believe that you make that mistake. As for your hard time dating, how would it be easier if you were a man? Just make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:02 PM
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Well I feel like I would be above average man, even If you count out face. Height, money, good talker. Yea. Like you could also 'feel' like you're really a giraffe. Doesn't make it so in reality. But for building a family in the future I would want me to work and him to not work, so one person would take care of the house. Also I love my job. Why is it that you have to be the one who works and could you truly provide for the whole family?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:51 PM
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I'd be 5'5" and I'm sure I'd make it work. You wouldn't have a choice, you'd be 5'5". The question is not could you persevere, the question is - would dating be easier or harder than it is now? It's just dating was effortless for me as a woman and I'd probably have to put some thought into it as a man. It would probably be a lot harder, no? On the bright side, as a man, society would have higher expectations for me career-wise, How is this the bright side? Not every man finds career success. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:31 PM
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I'm 30. I am 4'11 Right. So, this is why I'm asking for what you are and not what your brothers are. Your resistance here makes sense now. What you're saying about your family might be genetically true but I'm not going to expect most people to believe that if you were born a man then you'd be over 6 feet tall. It's just too much to ask other people to believe despite the fact that it might very well be true. If you're 4'11, I'll give you 5 or 6 inches. What is your opinion about men who are 5'5…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:19 PM
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But I'm a woman, not a man. No shit. I would be a man physically like my brothers with my own temperament? How do you know that for certain? Just say what you are as a starting point. Age, Height, Job, Income, Attractiveness out of 10, Hobbies or anything interesting about you. The sexual assault did not include hitting, it included sexual assault. The other example was of physical abuse. I expressed preference for physical abuse over sexual assault. Which I saw as more likely if I were not a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:39 PM
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I dont think it would be difficult for me to have a girl like me. Why do you think that? The question is - would it be more difficult or less difficult than it is for you now? Bi women hit on me, so I think id be fine. Because you're a woman. What if you were a man? I work from and do housework by myself as well. I dont currently live with my bf. Just in futures sake id like to work and have my house taken care of. I don't understand, it sounds like you're doing that just fine as it is. Are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:27 PM

I hear what you're saying but the 'just don't tell him' strategy is deception that women wouldn't stand for if it happened to them. What if we told men - 'cheat but just don't tell her.' Rules for thee not for me. Aside from that there are other indicators. People are going to know. The problem is - if what you really desire is a long term relationship at any point in your life, you can't live your life the opposite way and then switch gears later. By the time you reach that stage, you will not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:38 PM

A lot of people would argue that if she doesn't have sex with the guy early on then it would make the guy feel like there's not a suitable amount of genuine desire. Really the only issue that guys have is if he's made to wait for sex while some other guy didn't have to wait. I think it makes sense that guys would feel that way. It doesn't solve anything to rely on the 'just not tell the guy' strategy which doesn't change the reality that the woman did at some point have sex with a different guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:24 PM

Men can often figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:16 PM
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Those are certainly eye openers for people who actually go through those experiences. I was on an app talking with a woman once and she asked how long I'd been single and after answering sincerely she ghosted and left the chat. I felt that my availability would be what women want not the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:07 PM
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Because I will know from the get go If a woman actually wants a relationship. You have to get them to like you first. My bf refuses to be a SAHD I work from home and do both by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:03 PM
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What would you say so them to try to get them to understand that their experience would be different in some way? I kind of don't have a problem with people not having any idea about a thing but I have a problem with them not having any idea and yet at the same time assuming with 100% confidence that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:30 PM
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This is not a question about your brothers. And just because your brothers had success also doesn't mean that dating is easier or just as easy as it is for you as a woman. I've probably said some variation of this about 30 times at this point. Everyone is like - I have a brother and he's done fine. That doesn't mean at all that dating for you would be just as easy as it is for you as it is right now as a woman. I think if I were a man I’d have an above average time dating. Based on what? You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:18 PM
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You understand that she knows who her brother is right? You understand that she's not her brother, right? You understand she knows her brother’s personality and how closely it mirrors her own right? You understand that I never attempted to deny that she knows some things about her brother, right? You understand that she can actually see her brother and see how closely her looks and his match right? You understand the question is about her attributes and not his right? It's pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:14 PM
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Why not? If I have similar genetics and upbringing, why would I assume very different outcomes? You were born and raised to be yourself and not them? It's pretty simple. You don’t think she would be more popular if she had been born male? The question is would dating be easier or harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:06 PM
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What the fuck is your purpose in asking the question and all your follow up questions if you don't want people to actually answer? Nowhere did I indicate that I don't want you to answer. I'm allowed to respond to your answers. Not sure what your problem is. The notion that dating is generally harder for men on the whole is merely something that a lot of women on this sub right now are actually saying. I'm not a giant argumentative arsehole This conversation might suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:04 PM
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The title is at the top in bold, so how is that hard to understand? You can think what you want that doesn’t mean anyone would agree with you. No different than obese women claiming that they’re 10’s. Yea, they can say it, doesn’t mean it’s true. You can’t say that height is meaningless though. This or that anecdote of a guy doesn’t resolve the obvious cross-cultural, global preference that women have for mens height. All that’s needed is to imagine yourself as a man. Your dad is your dad and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:48 PM
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That sounds sad but it might sound worse than it actually is. I know women in that situation and they make the whole thing about them. I think that men are more needed in the task of raising men. And despite how wrong it might come across I think that women are better at raising women as well. I think the reason is simply that men and women live in entirely different worlds. What is successful for a woman would not necessarily be successful for a man and vice versa. My instinct says that regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:33 PM
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There’s no need to compare yourself to an entirely different human being, you say what you are not what your brother is. You aren’t your brother, pretty simple concept. Yes, in life, avoiding abuse is impossible. If your metric for ease in dating is entirely oriented around avoiding abuse, I don’t know if you’d be so sure. Both of your examples involve hitting btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:14 PM
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Humor and charm as a woman is one thing, you’d have to be attractive to women. Have you ever done that? Do you really know what you’d be signing up for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:06 PM
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You’re posting charts and claiming that they mean things that they don’t. That’s not ‘facts.’
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:57 PM
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You have to be more than just attractive. Lots of guys are just attractive. You will find though that top percent level guys happen to most often be attractive. Once you’re attractive you can play the game but you have to have something going for you and you have to get them to like you. How are you going to do that? As a woman you can just show up and exist. That doesn’t work for men. Your lack of understanding here speaks for itself. You would probably have a much harder time dating as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:55 PM
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That’s also an assumption that doesn’t make any sense. By your logic we could just as easily say the same thing about women when referencing the preferred height chart. Preferred doesn’t mean dealbreaker. It could not be more simple but I see you don’t respond to reason anyway so stop trolling on my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:49 PM
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Look, I don’t know what more I can do other than write the question I want answered. If you really just read the comments you would find that I’ve redirected everyone back to the actual question so which is it? I really have a hard time believing that as a person on the shorter end of spectrum that you’d have it just as easy as you say. Pretty bold assumption. Also just because your dad is your dad doesn’t mean that you would be your dad. Regardless, if your equivalent ended up being at the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:45 PM
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Again, preferred age doesn’t speak to the point in any way. It’s an incredibly simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:28 PM
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A lot of guys are just attractive. What’s your appeal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:26 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:21 PM
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A closer hypothetical, since you mention it, is actually simply considering who they are not who their brother is. You understand that a person’s brother is a different human being right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:21 PM
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No. Some are literally not answering the question. You can read and like everyone else, see it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:18 PM
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You’re only the 1,000th woman to do exactly what you did. It’s almost as if it’s a pattern. Why do you think it would be the same? Just make it easy - Age, attractiveness out of 10, Height, job, salary, hobbies or anything else that makes you remarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:06 PM
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Yes. Some women aren’t answering the question that is asked to them. It might seem like I’m arguing. Just because I ask a question in the post doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to question their responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:03 PM
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Easier or harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:00 PM
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Right and again the hazard there is the assumption that you would be just like your brother. That’s not necessarily always going to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:59 AM
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Yes. Every single woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:28 AM
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I’m not saying that she doesn’t know her brother, it’s just not relevant to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:26 AM
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That doesn’t mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:52 AM
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A lot of these women are saying they think it would be super easy. What do you say to them? Also, why do you think it’s so much harder for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:31 AM
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Would. It. Be. Easier. Or. Harder. Compared. To. Now? That’s the question. Not if you’d ‘do alright’ or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:24 AM
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How much harder is it for short guys and why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:20 AM
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That’s not what most of these women seem to think. Look around, a lot of them are saying it would be super easy. What do you say about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:00 AM
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It might not be though, “champ.” As in it’s possible. You’re right to point out that it’s not a big ask and I wasn’t speaking of every woman I meet. At my age, they have to be the right age, single, available as well. I wouldn’t even say there are zero non-batshit insane women out there, it’s simply to say that it’s all I ask for and it’s been hard to find. I think it would be even harder if I hardline stuck to ‘agreeable.’ Agreeable is asking for a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:27 AM
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I don’t know. Good strategy. Get the girl to ‘vibe with you.’ Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:03 AM
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I don’t even know what that is but I’m pretty sure 100% that’ll work. Idk maybe it means you’re a 5’10 chubby dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:02 AM
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Like if you’re a 22 year old guy, why would a girl be interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:46 AM
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I just don’t think 22 year old law student guys are at the height of their desirability compared to 22 year old women. You can just say ‘slay’ this ‘slay’ that, it doesn’t make it so. There’s tons of kids out there like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:37 AM
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That’s cool. I don’t know that the 22 year old male equivalent version of yourself would have quite the same appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:28 AM
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Okay. What constitutes an LTR nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:25 AM
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Okay. Sure, if you have no dating goals then anything’s a win. I don’t know that the ‘just existing’ strategy gets the same kind of results for men as it does women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:24 AM
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Okay. How old are you now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:21 AM
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As a man with the exact same personality, I'd be a "dominant, authoritative, confident go-getter." I feel like women hate on the too. Do they not? Take yourself for example. I know 5'10" (178cm) is, according to TRP, not tall enough for a man This isn't according to TRP. This is according to women based on what they say. Surely, there's more to this complete package. So far, you're 5'10" and obnoxious. As if there aren't hordes of men who are exactly that. What else you got? except getting out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:55 AM
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Okay. Cool. Maybe you need some help. I'll help you. Age? Attractiveness out of 10? Height? Job? Income? Hobbies or something interesting about you / what are you passionate about? Not super social. Has some masculine features.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:15 AM
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This is what seems to have happened over and over with this post. Women have spotted a guy that they like or have some similarities with and have imagined themselves as those men if they were men. It's as if there's a pattern happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:49 AM
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The first one. Even the most conservative people in my region are like this at a bare minimum. Except for the equal partners part where the woman is obviously more 'equal' than the man in many ways including but not limited to being able to say and do outrageously inappropriate things without consequence. I quoted the connection. Not sure what the problem is. It's simply to say that the terms 'egalitarian liberal' can mean quite a lot of different things to many different people in a way that va…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:18 AM
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Is that really true? How do you know this for certain?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:48 AM
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America is a big place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:37 AM
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Where though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:34 AM
2

Ah. What community is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:33 AM
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I'm not sure what your paragraph has to do with my comment. Which paragraph. There's more than one. My husband and I are "looksmatched" and have similar background This alone doesn't mean anything that would suggest that your experience dating as a man would be similar in any way. Age, Height, Attractiveness out of ten, Personality, Job, Income, Hobbies. You have those things, now how would that play in the dating market as a man? ^ I asked these things to make it easier for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:32 AM
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Again, the question is easier or harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:29 AM
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It’s clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:27 AM
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Well I didn’t cause them which says little because the assumption is that I caused them. Like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:27 AM
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You're the one who brought your personal life into the conversation, and your reasons given for why you're not responsible for your relationship woes are not entirely compelling, as being good with interacting with people in some contexts doesn't mean you're a good romantic partner. In addition to the first thing which is I don't introduce problems into my relationships. The latter evidence is simply to show a wider view. Maybe you did and you're lacking in self awareness Yes. I cheated on mysel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:30 AM
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I've said this too many times already. It's not about what your brothers are and just because someone is successful in dating doesn't mean it was easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:20 AM
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My husband doesn't complain about our chores division or my ability to make compromises - we both view each other as equal partners, hence we treat each other with love and respect. Even the most conservative people in my region are like this at a bare minimum. Except for the equal partners part where the woman is obviously more 'equal' than the man in many ways including but not limited to being able to say and do outrageously inappropriate things without consequence. I think it would be realis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:08 AM
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So, for you, dating would be harder. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:03 AM
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It's sufficient to say that I'm good with people and relationships. It's also sufficient to say the part that you left out which is very important, and that was - I was not the party that introduced problems into my previous relationships. Which is important. Saying the one thing without the other, says a lot. You seem to be putting me in a position where you're trying to ask me to 'prove' that I'm not the problem in all my relationships, under the assumption that I AM the problem in all my past…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:02 AM
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Would the Male Heterosexual equivalent of yourself have an easier time or harder time in dating? We don't even have evidence to show that your brother is your male equivalent in the first place. Also, he could have success, that doesn't mean that dating is easier. A guy could have a lot of success in dating on account of really hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:10 AM
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Well, you're right in pointing out that no one cares about your job. All the other shit, you're still wrong about. When you compare average men to average women, it's not even close, even when men have good jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:08 AM
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The question isn't - how successful was your brother? That's not what I asked, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:06 AM
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But are you him?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:03 AM
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But are you him?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:02 AM
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I’d be like my brothers- ^ What do you think this means?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:01 AM
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Everyone is like - I have a brother and he's done fine. That doesn't mean at all that dating for you would be just as easy as it is for you as it is right now as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:01 AM
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I don't know that it's sufficient to just say "I have a brother and he's done just fine." That doesn't mean that your experience dating as a man is going to be just as easy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:59 PM
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So now do every other characteristic that's of note when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:58 PM
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The question is would it be easier or harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:48 PM
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The question is not could you do this. It's easier or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:47 PM
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No, you didn't get my point. If I was a man, I'd have easier time looking for a woman with compatible views and values than vice versa. No. You didn't get MY point. You'd be a man. That would not be what you want once you're a man. I'm a man and I'm just about as liberal as it could possibly get. It is unpleasant to date extremely feminist women. They simply view themselves as more important than men and any attempt to push back against their selfishness is met with shaming language having to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:46 PM
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I have considered that. If that were the case I’d be the person causing issues in relationships not the other way around. If that were the case I’d also probably be a less prominent figure in my community and I’d be less successful in life, especially in areas of life that involve dealing with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:38 PM
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Damn. The question is better or worse, not - I'd do okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:31 PM
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Average men are invisible to women. Having a good job is a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:29 PM
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Scroll up and read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:28 PM
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there are more liberal egalitarian women than men, at least in Russia. But then you wouldn't be a woman anymore. Do you see how that works? "Liberal egalitarian" means nicer to women not men. You'd be a man in that equation. They treat you worse, not better. demi men struggle more than demi women. 100%. You would be toast. When the pressure to approach and initiate lies wholly on men, it's harder to take your time and not to be in a hurry. In the end, how is that even remotely 50/50? There would…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:28 PM
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Yea. That's not how it works. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:21 PM
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I understand that some of the questions I ask are a little too hard for some people here. You could just pass or not comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:21 PM
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20 something male religious goody two shoes me Yea. Women go crazy for that type of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:19 PM
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I would scale the language back even further to - men just want peace and to get along. I threw 'agreeable' out years ago. I simply want a woman who's not batshit insane. Still can't find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:45 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:11 PM
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So basically we're allowed to have superficial elements of a relationship, only if those are things that women want. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:52 PM
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Okaaay.... can you admit that murder and fraud exist? Even if you've never seen them? Have you ever seen Finland or does that not exist either? We can look all this shit up. Where is your data on what you're talking about? Part of what game?? Lying? What lies would exactly be considered ok and where's the line drawn? Where do women draw that line? Where is the line that women hold themselves to? There are still sites that are up where you can order women. Where? There are also sites that claim t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:49 AM
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The literal women who spoke up about this kind of treatment. Where? Who? Where is the documentary? Where is the data? Where are those women? Why is it so far fetched to you to hear that some of them are treated really badly? I can full accept that many abhorrent things happen every day, but I don't speak of rare occurrences as if they're the default thing to happen in any given situation. Why is it the default that men looking abroad for love are treating women really baldy in that process? Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:39 AM
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Because in a lot of cases they are. Where? How? According to who? How do you know this for certain? I'm sorry, but being aware and conscious over a lot of these women are treated If the women are being treated so badly they don't have to date anyone. It's a very fundamental concept in dating. Men going to date women abroad is not abducting them and selling them into sex slave trade market, it's dating. We're talking about just men going to places to date. And they get more matches and they get m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:13 AM
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Why do I have admit to something that I've never seen in person nor have heard of actually happening in real life? Why do I have to admit to your narrative here when I don't see anything supporting it other than you just saying that it's so. Do people lie in dating? No shit. That's part of the game. When women lie and manipulate men what happens? What happens when women do that to us in the west? What happens when men are scammed and killed? Most of the time, not a damn thing. They take everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:03 AM
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The assumption coming out of the gate is that they are treated badly though. It's an assumption that is unsubstantiated and it doesn't even stand to reason since women choose who they want to date in the first place. Why would a man who likes a woman even more than women he's used to, treat her somehow worse? It just doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:56 AM
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I'm not from the US. Still doesn't necessarily mean that it should apply to you in the least. Where are you from and where are you currently living. Men might not even want to go to where you are anyway. If you were raised in a certain place, you may be fine to date anyway. I would be concerned about this attitude What attitude? If anything is being pedastalized it's the notion that there are women in places who are naturally inclined to treat men with respect and compassion. Yes, excuse us for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:17 AM
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I'm closer to the "foreign women" party, What does that mean? And like I said you're free to date whoever you want and always will be. No one is holding a gun to your head. Date or don't. Date foreign or domestic, date long distance or the guy next door. The choice is yours, and no one gives a shit. If other people want to date that's their business too, not yours. They don't care if you approve or not and nor should they.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:06 AM
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Foreign women, 'the receiving party' are free to date whoever they want. And if they're concerned, they don't have to date whoever they don't want to. It's not like men are traveling and holding a gun to their heads forcing them to go on a date. It's more like men are traveling and meeting women who like them, find them desirable and actually treat them with respect. It's like a whole different universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:58 AM
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That. And when women pick tall men over short men, fuck their feelings right? It's a preference. Men aren't allowed to have feelings. Those are for women only.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:13 AM
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What if the foreign women really are better than the western women and what if those women are actually legitimately happy and treated very well by those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:04 PM

Every guy wants to be used for their dick. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:11 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:09 AM
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If loving a man came easier to the big tittied Asian girl then she’d be with a man and not on pornhub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:20 PM
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Absolutely. And the guys in her harem who attempt to show love and devotion as a means to keep her are received as losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:16 PM
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I think he’s on the mark as a whole when it comes to the specific point that once a woman has decided the relationship is over, it’s over and there’s no convincing women of things if you are the guy. Many women would likely agree with this. There’s a difference between generalizing all and speaking in general per generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:58 PM
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That mean things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:11 AM
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Customary is customary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:11 AM
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You’re right, it’s customary for women to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:56 AM
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Yes. If reversed stuff that women would say is below bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:27 AM

What’s up with these inane false dilemma questions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:01 PM
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I can admit that I don’t know everything. I know that you didn’t answer the question earnestly. Based on what you’ve written it looks like you haven’t expressed what I would call a point. You might be holding an unexpressed point in reserve for some weird reason. Rather than pursuing on actual point and communicating that you have a point, you’ve instead focused on me and the level of confidence I have in that assessment. It only builds more confidence that you don’t really have a point and if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:44 PM
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Your leading response to the post was facetious and no one mentioned sex except you. Pretty non-sequitur. So, I’m sure a lot of people are having trouble figuring out whether you even have a point or not. You can earnestly answer the question or not. If you just came here to troll you can go elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 08:45 PM
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That’s not the question of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 08:17 PM
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I don't think men should be given a free pass on this topic exactly. I don't think this is what I'm saying. I will say that we often already hear that women want men to communicate 'more' or 'better.' (There's a side of this where if women are really being honest, many of them don't choose guys who are good at communicating or don't choose guys for that reason, it becomes an issue later when it's time to make one. There's also the meme of women losing attraction for men who give them what they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:23 PM
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Never said anything about sex at all either til you mentioned it. What are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:55 AM
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Where did anyone say ‘stranger’?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:56 PM
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Yes. Men never pay for sex in one way or another. That's why free is the expectation. Free sex is everywhere. How dare men desire to be sexually satisfied in a relationship. Sex should revolve completely around the whims of women at all times. Anything less than that is misogyny. And as for autonomy, you know it's misogyny and toxic masculinity when men have wrong opinions and do things that women don't want them to do. It's also misogyny if a man asks anything of a woman that differs from what …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:50 PM
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Totally. It’s impossible for it to be fake contrived or superficial in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:26 AM
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I've read Shakespeare and performed it. Macbeth is bit more complex than what you describe. And there are female characters far more evil and grotesque than Lady Macbeth, obviously what she does is wrong. Though ambitious and willing to propose and assist with murder, she's also a victim in the end to some of the same evils and she appears to show a level of remorse. That's not really all that evil in a pure sense. I would also not reduce Macbeth to merely a simp. You can't forget that there's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:24 AM
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Sounds like a great beginning of a troll larp fantasy romance novel for lonely neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:07 AM
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I don't know that my post or film recommendation is about that. If you want to see an older film about the dangers that can happen to a man being victimized by a woman in a relationship, I recommend that and it's a far better one and honestly a far better rendering of a female antagonist. In Fatal Attraction the woman is certifiably insane and presented more at a demonic level. It's just not interesting and rather horror film grotesque. Body Heat keeps you guessing because you don't know what's …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:26 AM
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It’s was clear enough to literally every woman I ever dated. Doesn't mean that what you said was an example of good communication. And just because it was clear enough to those women does not mean it would be equally as effective to all women. Regardless, it was not optimal communication and the results shows that. Again. It's also very natural that less needs to be said between two people who are familiar with something already (chores). I didn’t mock his feelings or his points in any way. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:10 AM
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Body Heat (1981) is far better imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:18 AM
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No shit, but it is communication Anything is communication. We're having a conversation about good communication. Just because you 'communicated' doesn't mean that you communicated said thing well. It's not enough to just communicate. Just communicating by itself doesn't make you a good communicator. I could stop and say your exact script for asking I could give you several scripts off the top of my head in any given moment that are far more clear, more effective to a broader group of people and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:11 AM
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Sparing men’s feelings and thus being indirect and vague instead of asserting hard boundaries from the get go. I'm not sure I understand. Perhaps you're being too vague. Again, I don't know that everyone dating today has actually seen Fatal Attraction (1987).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:50 AM
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Correct - because I mostly dated women and they DID understand those things. I have to alter my communication style for men though. Again. Communication is about making sure other people understand not just assuming that they do. And if you find that it's difficult for you to communicate effectively (being understood, understanding, effective style) with entire categories of people who are different than you or not your specialty, then it sounds like you have a lot of work to put in, in order to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:43 AM
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You guys know that chemistry is fake right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:23 AM
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I have. Not sure about these youngins. That's a pretty old movie at this point. This seems like a worst case scenario although I can imagine worse. I don't think it's statistically very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:11 AM
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You say this: I’m aware of what communication is about. But then you said this: There’s things that I don’t think need to be said because it seems obvious to me, but if I don’t say it, my partner won’t pick up on it Part of communication is making sure you know other people are getting what they need whether that's obvious to you or not. Just because it's obvious to you doesn't mean it's obvious to another person. That's what communication is all about. In this example, you saw no need to commun…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:06 AM
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I won’t say that women communicate badly - just very differently than men Communication is about being understood. It's also about making sure people know what they need to know. Or sometimes during an argument with him, I’ll try to deescalate by making dumb jokes about the argument for instance, but for whatever reason, I’ve never had a male partner pick up on that - as if jokes about the argument = jokes on his understanding/intelligence (which gets interpreted as a personal offense, I guess).…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:38 AM
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Boys get reprimanded for rudeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:07 AM
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Regardless they’re clearly bad parents. Clearly you've lost the plot because you're making assumptions about people you don't know anything about at all. Raising a girl or boy isn’t that difficult in terms of difficulty. Again, this was one person's opinion and explanation for that opinion. The majority of about 10-15 other mothers agreed with her. I'm not here to say what's correct or not, that's not really the point but if you're a parent and you set example through your behavior that it's acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:53 AM
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The same things as in men. Yea. I don't know that the most commonly recognized worst things about men and women in dating are the same things. Maybe you could start by perhaps listing one of those things with more specificity than lumping it under the general umbrella of "abuse." What kind of abuse? What specific words, actions, and behaviors are we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:16 AM
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Yea. I don’t think that’s the only reason and from what I can tell I’m very sure that’s not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:38 AM
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Women are exhausting. Can't help but agree. "if you are not perfect - you are worthless" The nitpicky neurotic perfectionism is ironically what's making them imperfect. Perhaps if they just chill the fuck out they wouldn't be so exhausting and they actually be closer to 'perfect' and if not perfect they might just allow themselves to live a happy life somehow. So many women I know are miserable because they make themselves miserable. It has nothing to do with me or other people, it's all about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:21 AM
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And again, I'm not here to preach about telling other people what to do. I hear what you're saying. I don't think it's a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:42 AM
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I literally just said the paying for the meal isn't the actual issue. I don't mind paying for dates and for many this is still the expectation - for men to pay. The issue is paying for dates with women who are using men for that purpose. Kind of a topic change after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:15 AM
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It's simply to say that it's incredibly common. Everyone has their own process for that. I'm not here to say what people should do about it, they can do what they want. I don't mind paying for a date even if it's expensive but I'm just looking to actually date and not just pay women's tabs. you gotta appreciate ambitious women and their hustle for their own money. What do you mean by this? Don't come back later and want them to be SAHM with no home business to maintain their previous financial s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:00 AM
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Some women date out of boredom, for entertainment, a quick dopamine/ego boost, to fill their social calendar, because we're socialized to partner, etc. But they don't put forth effort because there's no goal attached to the dating. Again. If they had no need then they wouldn't be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:23 AM
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I don’t think you need a relationship to be happy and fulfilled I never said that you do absolutely, in every case, require a relationship to be happy and fulfilled. I simply don't think it's the core widespread issue you were claiming it to be. And, yes, since you were talking about women not dating at all, that's not what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:54 AM
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I'm only responding based on what you said about the issue being that "Women don’t need a relationship to feel fulfilled in life." Thank you for agreeing that you don't actually believe this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:48 AM
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Just men like me? If you really believed in what you were saying I'd expect to see an answer more along of the lines of "steering clear of all men," right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:42 AM
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I’m explaining a phenomenon why women tend to be unmotivated in the dating scene. I understand what you're trying to say. I just find your explanation dubious. If it's true that 'women don't need relationships to be fulfilled in life' then we'd likely see a lot of perfectly date-able women straight up not dating at all, in which case those are not the kind of women I'm talking about anyway. I don't see that happening though. What I do see is women ordering up men to date on their phones the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:37 AM
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Women don’t need a relationship to feel fulfilled in life Well, then they're not dating. The question starts with "When it comes to dating..."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:26 AM
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Why bother with something so time consuming and expensive when you barely know each other? My question exactly. I think some of these women have an idea, with 'foodie call' dates, that they really want to maximize extracting anything out of a man that they're able to. Some of them really see it as an opportunity to get something for free, especially if they don't even like the guy - they still got something for free. This is actually how a lot of women think nowadays. It's messed up and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:13 AM
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If we talk about the minority of batshit crazy psychopathic women We can talk about that if that's what people really want to do. But, again, this post (and I'd probably say the spirit of most posts on here that are simply trying to spark a fruitful conversation about dating in general based on how dating generally is in general) is about, in general, for the most part, commonly what you're going to run into with dating and dating women, trying to figure out what is, on the whole, the worst part…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:08 AM
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Okay. So, again. When it comes to dating, what then is the worst thing about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:47 PM
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You basically just said that the worst part about women in dating is that there's a trend of a certain behavior. You've not quite linked that to women themselves choosing to do a thing or doing a thing by virtue of the fact that they are women in dating. Or are you saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:42 PM
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Thank you for a very honest answer. I don't know if this is the top one that most people would agree with but you make a good case for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:40 PM
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'Fashionable' is another way of saying it's a trend. It's not about clothing. Fashionable - "characteristic of, influenced by, or representing a current popular trend or style." Something can be 'fashionable' and have nothing to do with clothes. I don't really think of qualities or characteristics based on gender. Humans have qualities and characteristics. But that's really what the question is asking though. What is the worst part about women when it comes to dating them as opposed to men and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:38 PM
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That's not really what the question is about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:35 PM
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I don't know if I agree with that as the worst thing. But I think there might be something to be said for the fact that, as a woman, you don't really have to accomplish much for yourself in life in order to be date-able and find people who will date you and go on dates. Maybe that is an issue - that women take a lot of things for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:27 PM
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Yea. So. When we're having a conversation about things in generalities we're trying to discuss things that are more common than not. Are you suggesting that you really believe 'the worst thing about women in dating as a whole' is that they're murderers? Sure. The worst thing that could possibly happen is you date a woman who murders you, I guess? It's not really a common issue but it has happened. I'd say it's pretty rare. I don't think that the biggest, most common problematic characteristic of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:24 PM
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Okay. What are some of those characteristics then that specifically apply to women in the context of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:04 PM
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I’m trying to ask about a quality or characteristic. If it’s just a ‘trend’ are you saying that women are doing this kind of thing for the most part because it’s fashionable to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:58 PM
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I kind of understand what you’re saying and I might not disagree but what exactly is that quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:52 PM
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I won't marry a woman because I won't marry anyone full stop. Not having 'great chemistry' would not be the reason. I could date and stay with a woman for the rest of my life and not have 'great chemistry.' The concept of 'great chemistry' isn't even in my top 20 list and is probably close to completely irrelevant. 'Great chemistry' has no bearing on whether your relationship is going to be successful or not. If we share similar values and want some of the same things, that's more than enough. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:33 PM
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So it seems some men here seem to think for the sex to be good for the woman, all that he needs to do is stay hard and not cum straight away. I don't really think most men think this. And if there's a dude saying this he's probably a teenager or never had sex before. My own personal thoughts are that I like an experienced man who knows what he's doing. Different people like different things on account of emotional, psychological, and physical differences. Some women seem to speak as if they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:17 PM
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I never used the word ‘favor’ in my comment. Which time period are you talking about and which men in said time period are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:56 PM
21

You had me at ‘they meant well.’ I don’t think they did mean well by answering bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:55 PM
8

You can get all those things without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:52 PM
18

What he’s saying is quite simply that the consequences of a long term relationship not working out are so severe for men specifically that many men are avoiding them altogether. This means that more ‘attractive’ ‘datable’ ‘marriageable’ men are choosing more casual forms of dating and hookups over longer term committed relationships until or unless absolutely necessary, on account of the risks involved. It’s a pretty simple concept and among the top percentage of men who can get dates, I believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:51 PM
1

Sorry, are you saying that, to women, there's no difference between Chris Hemsworth being chill and laid back and a Chris Hemsworth who flies into a tearful rage anytime things don't go his way? Nowhere in your 'witty' hypothetical false dilemma do you even discuss men who aren't Chris Hemsworth. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:08 AM
1

How many references to Chris Hemsworth does it take for you to understand that your use of Chris Hemsworth as the 'default' reference point actually affirms what the other commenter was saying about looks and status coming first?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:03 AM
1

Yes. When your only reference is Chris Hemsworth, someone is certainly bound to pick some type of Chris Hemsworth. You sure showed him. You make his point for him "Looks, status.." comes first. The Chris Hemsworth part comes first even in your own scenario. How does that prove anything that someone would obviously pick one Chris Hemsworth over another? No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:59 AM
1

Comparing two flavors of Chris Hemsworth has nothing to do with what he just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:54 AM
-2

Sounds like you came here just to call me names. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:48 AM
-8

You made the assumption that I was talking about looks. And then you woman-splained to me on how 'looks aren't everything to women'. I KNOW that. Whatever it is that led to a date was obviously something that you were attracted to enough to go on a date with them. LOL. It's really that simple. When you assume wrongly, it makes YOU look like you're bad faith strawmanning the conversation. I said nothing about looks per se. YOU did. Now you're taking the conversation off topic which ALSO looks pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:40 AM
-6

Where did I say 'looks'. LOL. I never said that. Obviously you considered something about them attractive enough to go on DATES with. LOL. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:47 AM
-3

I don't think you understand what I'm saying at all. You were still initially attracted to those guys you went on dates with, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:07 AM
1

It’s funny how so many women are claiming that they’re now avoiding RP men once they realize RP isms and actions in those men over time. The question is, how are they still ending up on dates with all these RP guys in the first place? They don’t sound like they’re very good at filtering them out and they’re at least going on dates with them. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:15 PM
4

How do you end up dating such men in the first place? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:05 PM

I think though when you try to bring these complaints into a discussion, you don’t win the crowd over. You actually probably get mostly denial and resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:02 PM

I’m not exactly invalidating circumcision as a legitimate answer though it does beg the question of - why is this practically the only legitimate answer this post was able to come up with and have support behind it? It’s also simply to say that it’s more likely to find sympathy among women because it’s a situation where children are being victimized. It’s not something ‘made up’ that women tend to categorize between ‘threats’ and ‘persons who need to be protected’. It’s a notion that other peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:00 PM
1

You’re right. Men are more likely than women to have that option in life.
/r/MensRights03/05/24 03:40 PM
1

I don't think that is the correct answer. That's why I said what I said how I said it. Should poverty exist in the first place? No. But it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:36 AM
-6

You know who deserves to be lifted out of poverty? A woman who is simply just nice. You know who doesn't deserve to divorce r*pe men? An entitled western feminist Karen. What is wrong with dating women who are through no fault of their own born into lower socio-economic standing? How is finding love with or considering dating such people 'wrong'? You're saying we should not date them because they're poor? That might be how western women think and that's exactly the problem in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:25 AM
1

The post is a question. The question is very specific in what it asks. Your response is not an answer that qualifies. All that’s needed is to read the post. It’s really not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:01 PM
1

Intersectionality This is why the question is phrased how it is. no matter what you say, someone is going to push back. Again. This is why the question is phrased how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:49 PM
1

Then you don't understand. The 'male specific' means male specific. How those complaints are received by a general population public forum is also a qualifier. What male specific injustices or circumstances of unfairness are men permitted to complain about and have that be received as legitimate by the general population in a public forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:02 PM
1

Again. That's not the question. Read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:24 PM
1

Read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:22 PM
3

Well regarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:05 PM
2

I thought that one was called “Cocaine Bear”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:53 PM
105

Yes. I wish I did a screenshot of one experience I had. She led with ‘hi’, I countered with ‘hi’, her response was something like ‘oh I’m sorry, I expected something a little more than that, good luck out there.’
/r/MensRights30/04/24 08:45 PM

That's the guy I feel sorry for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:09 PM

Yea. No one agrees with a dude like that, if he truly is the way that you describe. Why would a man like your ex be like that? Because he's an insecure piece of shit? I don't know. Why does anything exist? Why were you with him in the first place if he is so awful? Our kids? What? You had kids with this guy? That aside, it does appear that he DOES value this work being done at home. This is to the point where he's making it a huge priority. He might not be nice or grateful about it but it's clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:05 PM
0

Either clarify what you're trying to say or stop trolling on my post, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:42 PM
-1

This looks like the same exact thing that you wrote earlier. Again. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:39 PM
1

If you can't even explain what you're trying to say then that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:04 PM
1

isn't children complaining I'm aware of this but it's people being victimized at the time that they were children. This is much more palatable to women than sympathizing with an adult male who was victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:02 PM
4

“guys make 3 friends when they’re 15 and decide that’s enough socialising for a lifetime” I think this is a cruel take when you think about it. Yes. Men will keep that same friend group that they formed early on. Sometimes it's not really a choice. Sometimes it's the problem you all were just speaking about. It's comparatively brutal trying to make friends as an adult male. When you say a quote like that in that way, it takes a struggle that men have and twists it to - men are choosing to do thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:00 PM
2

Again. Have you ever seen those posts complaining about the same thing but as a male versus as a female?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:49 PM
1

I said public discourse, a public forum. That could be a lot of things. Private becomes public all the time with these issues. Personal anecdotes are a part of these discussions. You’re really reaching. On the whole you’re gonna get much less victim blaming comments to the woman who was raped unless it’s a highly sus sounding ‘r@pe’ claim. False claims are a thing. Who is more likely to be doubted though on their stories? And the threshold for agreed upon sympathy is not one comment one time in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:38 PM
2

👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:26 PM
1

You can read the post. Where are the posts you’re talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:25 PM
4

Gee, I don’t know, have you ever seen those posts complaining about the same thing but as a male versus as a female? Female specific issues seem to get addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:24 PM
1

I have the Reeves book. There’s not widespread change or understanding of these facts yet. It certainly hasn’t worked its way to the point where men receive sympathy for being purposefully held back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:22 PM
2

I’ve experienced that as well. There are some boomer parents who are so narcissistic that they would actually feel better about themselves if their children failed. Which is pretty much the opposite of what parenting is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:19 PM
2

Exactly. There usually isn’t agreed upon sympathy. There’s often a very loud sizable naysayer contingency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:17 PM
1

I don’t know what this means. More information about the question is in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:15 PM
3

You can read the post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:13 PM
2

If people are really mostly onboard with this complaint then that's cool. But in thinking about it, I don't even know if I'm onboard with this complaint in the sense that I hold this as a complaint personally. I understand if other men complain about it though. Like I said, I don't even know what I would prefer and I would have no way of testing it out. The TMI facts are, I was circumcised. I see how it's messed up. I happen to like how it looks. I don't have problems with size. I don't have pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:24 AM
5

Yes. Every uniquely male gripe is a yacht maintenance complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:13 AM
2

I thought I was clear enough in the post. Sure, you're bound to get any kind of response to anything, really. It is yet another exercise that's about speaking generally, as with most of these kinds of conversations. One commenter put forth the claim that 'men and women get about similar levels and degrees of sympathy and shame.' If we're using this as a starting point, I just don't think it's true. Using her examples I explained why, you can find it on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:11 AM
1

So again, acknowledging that men are falling behind from a statistical point of view and acknowledging that it’s a problem is not the same as a man voicing a complaint about his lack of opportunities and being firstly believed and secondly met with sympathy. There’s still a majority view out there that still assumes a ‘patriarchy’ or that men are more ‘suited’ to careers and certainly that men are more ‘responsible’ for providing and having career success. Despite the fact that we’ve helped wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:13 AM
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I mean if we are all the lucky 4 and are white and live in Bradford uk. Lol. Is that 400 month really making a difference? I just don’t think you can translate all those qualifiers and say - look, we’re helping men. Pretty weak sauce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:45 AM
3

Right so it’s very specific to a region trying to boost a demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:41 AM
3

This would be a situation where men are saying - there’s not opportunities. The question is - when men complain about this how are they received?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:36 AM
2

I thought a lot of women were pro-circumcision.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:16 AM
3

White ‘working class’ males get 400 a month. This is the first of anything I’ve seen I’ll give you that. It’s more of a social mobility effort than an effort to help men as a whole really. I think it’s strange to focus in on white people. It also pales as insignificant when compared to the kinds of preferential treatment we give to women all over the west doesn’t matter their skin color, you might get even more for different skin colors. Cool. 400 a month to 4 students already living there. Miss…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:13 AM
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I think it’s beginning to be acknowledged as an issue from a statistical perspective. I don’t really see the sympathy for the men themselves that are falling behind, or men as a whole. And don’t see anything being done about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:01 AM
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Interesting. I don’t know enough about this. I feel like in my situation I was circumcised and didn’t have a choice. So that’s maybe wrong. I do wonder if I posted something like - I’m an upset and aggrieved adult male because even though I don’t know which I would prefer, I was circumcised at an age where I could not consent to that. I’m not sure what the response would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:54 AM
3

So there shouldn’t be female only spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:49 AM
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No. I'm sorry, we're not going to play games with our own idiosyncratic idea of what constitutes 'normal' and use that to then move the goal posts of the discussion. 'Normal' can be anything and my use of #3 in my response to you was simply an example not a rewrite of something you said though it does happen and we can't honestly sit here and pretend that it doesn't. Women have demonstrated that female only spaces are important them. They have them because they asked for them. Men do not really …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:31 AM
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Let's start with one for example - cheating. Man cheats, you get more universally shaming comments unless it's a man of a certain standing maybe. Woman cheats, there's very often a - she wasn't happy, it didn't mean anything, how dare you try to say what I can and can't do with my body you don't own me, sex negative, judgmental, etc. There are actually even comments that are like - the man deserved it because he wasn't performing well enough in bed for her. I don't think the reactions in public …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:23 AM
5

You literally led with It’s much harder to men to make new friends for the reasons listed above. You're now invalidating your own example of a legitimate grievance that you brought into the discussion. Can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:09 AM
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I’m not so sure about that last paragraph. "Men’s complaint about the loss of male only spaces is a stumbling block of men’s own creation." Really? Yes. Men heard from women that they want to be included in male spaces so they changed it to now where there are hardly any male spaces left. Which is it, women? Do you want us to have male spaces or not? You decide. Smells more of the textbook victim-blaming I describe in the OP as category #3.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:51 AM
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I don’t think women and men get a similar amount of sympathy and shame. I think it says something that you spent your response trying to convince me that it is similar instead of really sticking to answering the question where you have the opportunity to provide some kind of examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:47 AM
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Again, I don’t think a majority general population receives these well. They are problems. Nothings being done about them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:43 AM
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Your first paragraph is most certainly true in my experience. Women very often redirect this complaint in various ways. One category is - the woman always has a right to their perceived ‘safety’ which can be anything they deem it. So, even when a man jumps through hoops to prove he’s a civilized human who doesn’t have suspect motives, one of the women in the group can always simply say the words “I feel unsafe or uncomfortable” - game over. Speaking towards your overall claim - ‘every aspect of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:41 AM

If I really like a guy he’s going to know it Sounds nice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:00 AM

The only time I've ever participated in this act is when women have vehemently asked me to do it. I was scared to do it, and with a new partner I always will have some fear of doing that with a woman for the first time. Somehow there's this narrative that men are the instigators of this shit. It's just not the case. It's not the case at all in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:59 AM

It seemed pretty clear actually that I was the first choice in that situation and not the second. She was giving me the pick of which day. And I think, by speaking of it in such a manner, she was communicating this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:53 AM

That's how I interpreted it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:50 AM

"Op has defined too available as dating one person at a time and giving full romantic interest to one person." I agree with this. "[most people] in the comments have interpreted this as having nothing going on in life and having 0 social network and no friends." It certainly looks to be the case. I think the guy was just trying to say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:49 AM

Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:48 AM

I understand this I just think it's immature and pretty dumb for them to think that way. That being said, women being like this even into their 30s is more becoming the norm it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:47 AM

Be honest, 'desperate for you' works only if you like them and want them to feel that way. If someone is 'desperate for you' and you don't want that, then it's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:41 AM

Strom Thurmond was a racist who got with black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:52 PM
3

This actually sounds way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:46 PM
53

I see plenty of married women I’m not attracted to who are dating men who earn more than them. Marrying up financially or in any way is typically an option only reserved for women.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 12:30 AM
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Not really. Women want the top guys. Guys just want a woman.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 10:35 PM
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I think it’s mostly men though. Generally it’s more likely that women can fall back on the marry a rich guy option.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 07:42 PM
50

The men ‘asking’ in drizzle drizzle are being ironic only in response to sprinkle sprinkle type shit.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 07:41 PM
9

I’m not sure that as things currently are that women do get hate for their shallowness.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 07:38 PM
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I think he’s just saying the only people who tend to get pushback for their shallowness is men.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 06:33 PM
15

I mean men shouldn’t have to be put in the position of proving themselves in any way just because they’re single.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 06:17 PM
0

Based on her reaction, I'm sure I could've played it slightly differently. I thought that being open and honest was what it was all about. They were direct questions; I don't see how the truth should be a problem at all to be honest. Why would that even be something to hide? I think that's really what the point of the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:52 PM
0

even though i'm a homebody who wants to stay home and read a book 7 days a week, i'm still "busy". I'm busy doing the things i want to do. i wouldn't immediately jump into a relationship or see someone multiple times a week right away, because i'm busy. ^ This is not relevant to any of the topics or anything I've done in my life at all. I'm also a bit of a homebody and consider some of that time to be important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:47 PM
1

i dont do is announce to men that i am giving them free monogamy and they are now the center of my life. ^ Yea. I didn't do this. There's nothing that I said in my post that implies that I've ever done any level of this. Another personal story I'm willing to share - I got a girl's number because she showed me attention, so I asked for her number. Great. Later she emails me and says I need to pick Saturday or Friday because her date with the other guy is going to be on the other day I don't pick.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:45 PM
1

what did you say, specifically? I answered her question by saying - the last time I was in a relationship was X and the last time I went on a date with a woman was Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:40 PM
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thats it Seems reasonable and that's where I agree. if its more than this, the woman is immature and playing games. (which is stupid af). Then the dating world in my region and market is overwhelmingly populated with immature women who might be playing games. And I'm an older guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:39 PM
1

There’s room to say all sorts of things in different modalities for different reasons. People are simply saying that what you said isn’t true therefore technically it’s a lie. It’s not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:49 PM
2

It’s a lie. You might be joking. You are nonetheless saying something that isn’t true. It’s a very simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:46 AM
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This is predicated on the assumption that all men at every stage of life are relationship avoidant sex hounds. That’s just not the case. Honestly, if access to sex was as easy for straight men, life would be better for everyone. Women would be less hurt just for sex and men would find that they’re able to focus on more important and deeper things, having the ability to satisfy their immediate base biological needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:19 PM
1

It’s actually most men. The men who aren’t forced to do that are the men who have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:34 PM
4

It takes til the third paragraph to say you’re talking about high SMV, the quotes I took were from your first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:30 PM
6

The post is about more than high SMV people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:28 PM
3

Read the post. A lot of men must use commitment to access sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:27 PM
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Men can get sex from sluttly Mc chubbs easily. Not true If you personally are content with a 5 in looks McDonald's manager who plays too many video games. Props. Most women would not accept that. Most men would accept the female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:25 PM

It’s a false dilemma. No man wants any woman like these. In a world where women aren’t shamed for asking for 666, men should be able to ask for the bare minimum - not a whore, not a slut, not a domineering single mom. I’m interested to see what your opposite examples are. 1. Dude who’s acceptable in most ways except he’s only 5’10 2. Dude who is everything else except he only makes 99k. 3. Dude is everything except his Johnson is only 5.9 inches. Unacceptable choices, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:05 PM
24

Listen to the torrent of people who’ve already explained it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:59 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:57 PM

Lol. None of them. Why do the choices have to be whore, slut, or masculine single mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:30 AM

Yea. They complain about their advantages as if they’re drawbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:54 PM
1

I’m pretty sure these women are wanting to do it. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:20 PM
1

I didn’t realize live-in polygyny was the standard though I fully see one live-in partner in the picture in many cases. This is exactly the lifestyle mode of ‘polyamorous’ people in my area. It also fits the structure of what I spoke about as ‘gig relationships.’ It’s happening. Men doing the ‘soft harem’ is shocking and shameful but women doing it is empowering. In my region, many women do this. If you try to call them out on it, it’s like how dare you. Or they have this bullshit ‘sex at dawn’ …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:01 PM
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Feelings based equality. I feel like things are unequal, therefore things need to be addressed at the societal level. This is despite the fact that I’m actually inherently advantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:48 PM

And any method women use to do anything is celebrated to at the very least excused.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:20 AM
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Having advantages aren’t really advantages because it’s possible to still find something to complain about even when life is easier for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:58 AM
1

Nah. It's already happening. It's like the gig economy but for relationships. Women have all sorts of guys on their roster. They got a guy or multiple guys for 1. Bills 2. Dick 3. Emotional stuff 4. Handyman type shit 5. Niche interest of the month, etc and then they could also have a primary female live in partner. I've already witnessed this as a common lifestyle in my region. As a man, you have to know how to avoid getting involved with these people. They don't want a monogamish relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:32 AM
0

It's way more common than it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:19 AM
2

It really has no bearing on her level of hypergamy in her nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:54 AM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:57 AM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:16 PM
2

What I'm saying is - it makes no difference whether her previous partners were unattractive or not. And furthermore, this has nothing to do with her nature being 'hypergamous' or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:38 PM
1

I think the word 'misogynist' is used far too lightly and frequently and to the point where it no longer has any real meaning. Basically, you're kind of like - if you are RP, then PROVE you aren't a misogynist. LOL. It's like the assumption is that RP, as a default state, might very well be. I don't think RP men need to prove their innocence under the assumption that they are guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:05 PM
3

No. How does this make any difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:58 PM
2

So the entire idea of a bluepill man is to be redpilled but pretend like you aren't This might be true some of the time but not all. A lot of men haven't yet realized any of the uncomfortable realities of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:49 PM
3

I literally had a time with a BP user on here who might present himself after I put this comment out there. I simply defended people's rights to date abroad if that's what they wanted to. He called me a 'Passport Bro' and tried to shame me. Later it turned out he had dated abroad and I'd never had that experience before. He was the only Passport Bro in the conversation, attempting to disrespect other people for being, essentially, just like himself. This sub is a wild place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:47 PM
1

No. That’s how leagues work. Especially with age. Grown men aren’t wasting their time on women who aren’t at their level. You’re approaching them, they’re declining you, that’s how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:49 AM
2

Did they reject you? They were out of your league then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:41 AM
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Yes. Reframe lack of social skills to ‘incompatible.’ The reality is most likely that you’re only bothering to approach guys way out of your league. Of course those guys will say no but not because you approached, unless your approach is really that bad in which case that’s the reason as stated previously. “It tends to not work out if I approach therefore I don’t approach” I would say more likely than not, all things being equal, that women have a FAR higher success rate approaching compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:39 AM
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Maybe it’s not that the guy doesn’t like you. Maybe you’re doing it wrong. This is what most everyone here would say to a man who said what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:29 AM
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Rooted in your experience of operating on that assumption. So of course. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:50 AM
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Go on bout yo bidness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:41 AM

Anyone can call anyone a boyfriend for any or no reason and the OP hints at this with use of contrasting perspectives. Which brings back to the original question, how do you prove your commitment to these online groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:26 PM

Which, again, has no bearing at all on OPs point that you helped prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:19 PM

You brought the word ‘cheating’ into the conversation. That was you. If the people going to groups online are suspicious of cheating, what is the process for proving their mutual commitment with these men? This is only being said because of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:16 PM

This has no bearing at all on what people are saying. Matching is still a part of the selection process. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:12 PM

The guy is not saying that you’re picking them because they’re married. He’s saying that women tend to end up picking the same top guys despite claims suggesting a highly varied sense of taste that woman claim to have in men. Why do your matches online even concern you then? The fact that finding out if they’re married or not is a problem for you in the first place is evidence to his point directly from yourself. All people are saying is that you’re very often swiping on the same guys. So either…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:42 PM

You said what the ‘picking’ was in the first sentence - the matching part. Lol. That’s what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:30 PM

Again. Where do they submit their proof of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:29 PM

So when they make their claims on these sites how do they submit their ‘proof of commitment’? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:17 PM

You realize this is based off of real actual are we dating the same man groups that exist for this reason. If these stories were so unbelievable we wouldn’t have the groups with exposés like west end Caleb or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:06 PM

90% of the ones you’ve been picking, which is OPs point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:03 PM

You looked up the ones that you picked though. This is kind of the point of what the guy is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:01 PM

Perhaps there’s a new pill theory at the intersection between gay frogs and bird law.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:58 PM

The source is on your team.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:55 PM

Tell that to the source then. I never claimed to invent the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:21 PM

I just checked it out. You are attractive. I would take you out on a date that I pay for at a nice place, without hesitation. Based on appearance alone, you have the level of attractiveness. You wouldn't be the hottest girl I've ever dated but I would marry you and pay for your entire life if you weren't too much of a pill to deal with. The problem is - I don't even hear back from girls like you. You cannot honestly pretend that you have no offers and nobody interested in you. I do not feel sorr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:10 PM

I’ve given you a definition from a source. Not sure what else I can do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:50 PM

She should change her thesis statement to focus on that part then. The tell is that she acknowledges that women as a whole get to ask things like ‘above 6 ft tall’. It’s very commonly iterated. Men don’t get to ask for things like that. Men try to say - ‘please don’t be obese,’ and are met with - how dare you for body shaming. Dating is very regional. But across regions, who do you think has a better chance? A black woman of any kind or a below average height man of any kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:49 PM

Sounds like you’re moving the goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:42 PM

It sounds like you don’t. I posted a definition from a source for you twice that you clearly refused to read the first time. ‘The manosphere’ sounds like ‘the manosphere’ ‘Red Pill’ sounds like ‘Red Pill’ It’s almost as if there’s different terms for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:40 PM

The population of excluded women is smaller. Most women could drastically improve their situations by simply getting in shape. This is, all things considered, comparatively pretty easy. The majority of men are excluded based on characteristics that are unchangeable (height) to very difficult to change (achieving top socio-economic status). We can’t all be tall and top 20%. The reality is that much fewer men are chosen and reproduce. It’s always been this way. This should be all that needs to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:38 PM

'Red Pill' is not an 'extreme.' There might be 'self proclaimed Red Pill aligned people' who say extreme things. That's not 'Red Pill.' This is so even according to sources that don't like it. "The “Red Pill,” a term that comes from the 1999 film The Matrix, has become a framework for individuals to describe their awakening to some previously hidden supposed reality." "to be blue-pilled is to accept the mainstream narrative and choose to live in ignorance of the truths of the world." Red Pill - …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:50 PM

'Red Pill' is not an 'extreme.' There might be 'self proclaimed Red Pill aligned people' who say extreme things. That's not 'Red Pill.' This is so even according to sources that don't like it. "The “Red Pill,” a term that comes from the 1999 film The Matrix, has become a framework for individuals to describe their awakening to some previously hidden supposed reality." "to be blue-pilled is to accept the mainstream narrative and choose to live in ignorance of the truths of the world." Red Pill - …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:48 PM

'Red Pill' is not an 'extreme.' There might be 'self proclaimed Red Pill aligned people' who say extreme things. That's not 'Red Pill.' This is so even according to sources that don't like it. "The “Red Pill,” a term that comes from the 1999 film The Matrix, has become a framework for individuals to describe their awakening to some previously hidden supposed reality." "to be blue-pilled is to accept the mainstream narrative and choose to live in ignorance of the truths of the world." Red Pill - …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:47 PM

'Red Pill' is not an ideology. This is so even according to sources that don't like it. "The “Red Pill,” a term that comes from the 1999 film The Matrix, has become a framework for individuals to describe their awakening to some previously hidden supposed reality." "to be blue-pilled is to accept the mainstream narrative and choose to live in ignorance of the truths of the world." Red Pill - There are uncomfortable truths about dating and relationships today. Blue Pill - There are no uncomfortab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:46 PM

'Red Pill' is not an ideology. This is so even according to sources that don't like it. https://www.newamerica.org/political-reform/reports/misogynist-incels-and-male-supremacism/red-pill-to-black-pill/ "The “Red Pill,” a term that comes from the 1999 film The Matrix, has become a framework for individuals to describe their awakening to some previously hidden supposed reality." "to be blue-pilled is to accept the mainstream narrative and choose to live in ignorance of the truths of the world." R…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:45 PM
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No one feels sorry for you. Lol. That’s all that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:39 PM

I don’t watch reality tv, You don't have to watch tv at all to know what The View is. Does this prove that misandry is mainstream and misogyny is not? ^ I don't know that this was the original claim. We've already said what we came here to say. There's no need to change it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:12 AM

Your hostility is uncalled for There was no hostility involved. I’m not sure what the ratings are like, but they may be a bit low to call it truly mainstream. ^ You went with this. A one-second google search can tell you that's it's a show on a major network. In fact, some would say that media on a major network kind of doesn't get more mainstream. Mainstream media kind of epitomizes the mainstream, no? which avenues misandry is acceptable and commonplace. As people have been saying, a lot of di…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:09 AM

The exception is now the rule! Waiting to have kids in your 40s is now somehow WAY BETTER!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:03 AM

getting chewed out publically for daring to ask if the person was single. It's funny because women will also rage if you DON'T approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:55 AM

The last time I saw cat calling was in a show that was produced in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:54 AM

I have never in my life seen a woman berate a man to his face for saying “can i take you to coffee sometime?” Try being a man for one week. a brick wall of general disinterest Walk in the park compared to what men go through. Check your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:52 AM

Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:47 AM

You were guilty of being a man and saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:46 AM

Shallow values are promoted today - but not just in women, it has to be said. No. There is actually more than enough shaming and gate-keeping of man-hood. You just don't see it because you're a woman. It’s absolutely disgusting that a man being mutilated was joked about It wasn't just a joke, an enormous audience laughed at it out loud. It took one courageous woman to not agree. One out of how many people in that room? Do you think they could air a show like that about a woman being mutilated? D…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:36 AM

The View is a syndicated television show on a major network (ABC). I guess you've realized that the key to winning this argument is having a very narrow and limited view of what 'mainstream' is. LOL. I can't think of anything more mainstream than a show on a major legacy broadcast network. One of the old ones, like right when the stream first originated. LOL. ABC, NBC, CBS, that's ... the stream. Fine. Name a television show on a major network where men speak of women in a similar fashion. Or is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:29 AM

to do what they want. Yea. Sometimes people want to do stuff that's fucked up. It often isn’t in response to any behaviour towards/about men Sometimes it is. encouraging a woman to do her own thing I have a buddy who's ex-wife decided to 'do her own thing' - it ruined their entire family. The new relationship she tried on, like it was a t-shirt, fizzled out within months and she actually tried to go back with him. There's certain things in life where there's just no take backs. Her sons are stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:06 AM
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I'm not interested in casual sex. As a man, the desire for sex is pretty biologically hardwired and strong. This is to say that even though I'm not into or looking for casual sex as an end goal, if sex is on the table and I'm attracted to the woman, I would want the sex. There's really nothing wrong here and no contradiction. As an older man I'm looking for a lot more than that. At the end of the day, however, sex is important - this doesn't mean I'm looking for a hookup or a sex club or anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:40 AM

Welp. Try saying it and we can all stand by and witness the comment not get removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:24 AM

Oh, that's TOTALLY the same thing as "all short men should be eradicated."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:19 AM

We can have this discussion. You and this other guy should probably first agree on what you think 'mainstream' is, and then don't move those goal posts. I would start with something ubiquitous and small. But I think, keeping it on point to what we were talking about in this post, we can just look at what kind of expression iterated in public discourse is generally more accepted than not. And I think, for the most part, we already know how that tends to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:15 AM

Yes. The Internet has nothing to do with public discourse and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:57 AM

Great anecdotes. The exception is rule!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:51 AM

I think that it’s not the ‘you go girl’ inherently, rather it’s surprisingly what many people will say ‘you go girl’ to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:34 AM

Correct. Only women are allowed to be victims. Even when they’re not!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:31 AM

Those are the best examples she can come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:29 AM

Oh, so you can see the rest of Reddit, which is now and has always been dominated by men. So dominated by men that you can see them being called 'incels' for any or no reason on the daily, with no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:26 AM

It's impossible to be genuinely kind and it's impossible to be single by choice. If you are a man only.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:24 AM

Yes. Let's abolish r/askmen. Only asking women should exist. LOL. Yes. Let's get rid of r/deadbedrooms. Lol. Women do not have enough control over language and culture today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:23 AM

They are active, not banned. Some of these groups have been banned on the male side only. Meanwhile we can go over to FDS right now and still see them scrote it up on the daily. What's more is you can go out in public and women can say it out loud unchecked. Men outnumber women on reddit 3:1. This population stat has no bearing on the discussion whatsoever. A simple population break down is just that. Public discourse is very often policed by extreme minorities in a population, and this has been…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:18 AM

Again. You're deliberately not reading. By comparison, misandry is completely accepted not just online but out in the open. No one gets corrected or canceled for saying openly misandrist things in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:44 AM

And many of these places get banned out of existence. And I'm not here defending one iota of their content. You can read my comment again to see what it was actually about. I'm sure men are like this online in part because there's a lack of places where they'd be able to get away with such things. By comparison, misandry is completely accepted not just online but out in the open. No one gets corrected or canceled for saying openly misandrist things in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:42 AM

I've been in leftist groups my whole life because I'm a leftist. Men keep their mouths shut so they don't rock the boat. Women get away with saying literally whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:36 AM

I'm not here to defend whatever it is you're claiming these other men are saying or doing online but you can't honestly pretend that women don't do the equivalent harsher, more openly, and less taxed, every day, offline as well as online. Check your privilege. “lmfao nobody wants you you are expired”. Women say this shit about men every day, except it doesn't stop at age. The only* point I agree with is that we shouldn’t mock small dicks. But you should be able to diss men for everything else I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:29 AM

I'm sure men are like this online in part because there's a lack of places where they'd be able to get away with such things. By comparison, misandry is completely accepted not just online but out in the open. No one gets corrected or canceled for saying openly misandrist things in public. And if we're talking about online, let's be honest, women come here to call men 'incels' just for being men who have an opinion that they don't like. 'Mansplaining' can be 'a man saying anything.' Words can co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:02 AM
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If they were truly ‘happy being single’ they wouldn’t be on a date with a guy in the first place. It’s bullshit because at some point in this process women like this are not being honest about something. You’re happy single? Cool. Enjoy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:20 AM

I am told that all men, regardless of their own age and marital status and parenthood, prefer childless women age 18-35. Prefer is just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:04 PM
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Intelligibility and reading comprehension are two different things. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:13 AM
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There are a lot of older married women here (if they're married and happy why do they spend so much time on here?). They come here to antagonize younger single men. They very often get caught lying, contradict themselves, and engage in purely personal attack based interactions. This kind of person and this kind of behavior is what I would call a troll. The men who come here and do those things typically get spotted and banned, which is fine. However, nobody is stopping these women who come here …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:13 AM

When you really boil it down, the man's attractiveness is the reason behind most issues to be honest. The problem is the constant gaslighting we see here trying to convince us otherwise. If we weren't met with such vehement denial, there wouldn't be as much of a need for these kinds of posted. So, I'm not surprised that they're so common. Don't worry. You're a woman posting. Mods won't delete.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:05 PM
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Age: within 15 years older or younger Personality: someone who likes me and wants to be with me, is nice, and does not suffer from extreme npd or bpd - like personality disorders. Sex: Likes sex and understands that it's important. Interests: Literally doesn't matter. You are curious enough to have a read a book about something one time in your life. Values: They value keeping our relationship together through thick and thin. How do they treat you? Nice. Which means no games and they have no nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:33 PM
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I know you won't because all you know is ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:23 PM
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Cool. You can speak of the content to express that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:17 PM
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Then you would think it would be easy to prove that through a discussion of what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:09 PM
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Says the person who began by labeling penises as inherently dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:30 PM
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Yes. Being raped is only scary if it's a man raping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:25 PM
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Yes. Because it's impossible for men to be chased and raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:19 PM
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Then one would think you'd have a lot to say about the content then. Not leave a one sentence comment about the speaker as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:17 PM
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omg penises are so fkn dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:15 PM
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Men are the ones who congratulate boys other if a high school kid dates a woman in her 20’s. Not women. r/ihadastroke
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:12 PM
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Classic. Top comment has nothing to do with the content. Just the speaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:09 PM
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You know. I've never investigated that issue. Whether it's that specific 'they' or not, I've never seen the kind of people who sympathize with female murderers victim blame men for their mental health struggles. Just never seen that happen.
/r/MensRights13/04/24 07:05 PM

If a straight woman was in her thirties & still has never been in a LTR, would you consider that a red flag? Yes. If people tell her she’s attractive, very reserved, sex isn’t important at all & she uses the dating apps primarily but pretty casually, are all these traits of a woman that actually wants to be in a relationship? She might want a relationship, she might think that she wants a relationship, she might be just saying that she wants a relationship. If she truly wants a relationship, how…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:59 PM
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It’s like they care more You produced the 'they'
/r/MensRights13/04/24 06:48 PM
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Yes. And they behave the same when it comes to mens' mental health.
/r/MensRights13/04/24 06:43 PM
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Because they meet you and they realize you are such a pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:37 PM
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Clearly still found a guy though. "relying on me for money" Welcome to dating as a man, where you are expected to provide and the moment you question the other person's careless expenses, you are shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:35 PM
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Men suffer from low quantity and quality. Because there's a lack of quantity, many men have no alternatives to putting up with low quality women. This allows women en masse to get away with being low quality and they can still get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:33 PM
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You can only say that because you have the privilege of having gone on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:28 PM
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Most men would be fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:09 AM
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Like I said it could be picking out of her league or personality. Based on what I’ve read, sounds like a combination of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:42 PM
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Doing nothing is always easier than doing something. The world’s smallest violin is playing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:23 PM
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Yea. Sounds like a personality problem and a picking out of your league problem. Much easier problems to deal with than the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:21 PM
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She gets dates and has admitted she is now in a relationship. The post could not be more deliberately troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:20 PM
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Still claims dating is harder. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:18 PM
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You're picking out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:17 PM
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If 99% of the guys you went on dates with rejected you then you have your answer right there. "Most did not attempt to have sex with me either. They just did not like me and were not attracted to me despite me using no filters on my photos or anything." You are not at their level. You are picking the wrong guys. But you get to pick and you get those dates anyway. This is why no one feels sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:17 PM
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First world problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:14 PM
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You must be joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:13 PM
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Male icks don't matter. In fact, men should be shamed for having any icks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:15 PM
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Remaining single because you don’t like your choices enough is either being picky or settling for not settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:04 AM
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Picky and single by choice are not the same thing. The reason is simple - the choice that the person really wants is a significant other that they don’t currently have. True single by choice are people who are happier single. And that’s different from merely saying you’re ‘happier single’ because we all know that many of those people are in fact liars and are miserable. Single by choice is setting out to be single and achieving that vision. Being single because there aren’t options that you like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:50 AM
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So in our society, by and large, we expect women to pay?
/r/MensRights10/04/24 09:03 PM
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I’m sure there’s men who have no problem stepping in to do fatherly things for children. Stepping in and being inherently responsible for paying the tab are two different things.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 08:38 PM
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Alone beats a helluva a lot of alternatives out there. Make no mistake about this.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 08:35 PM
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I mean you can claim anything is ‘incel rhetoric’ for any or no reason. Saying such a thing also has no bearing on the truth value of the original statement. You don’t want to have a conversation about whether the statement is true or not. You just want to call it names.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:16 AM
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So you admit that, by and large, height is important to women. That’s the only point that’s being made here. And if you agree with that, there’s really no need to cite anecdotal exceptions or evoke the term ‘incel’ at all really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:37 AM
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He’s right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:07 AM
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Yes. The exception is now the rule!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:06 AM
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In the last one, firstly look at what's happening in Ukraine. Being a male Ukrainian is a death sentence and that's because of the draft. Secondly, the fact that a nation hasn't used a draft is immaterial to the fact that men are registered to be drafted and women are not. Every response is a cop out.
/r/MensRights08/04/24 06:03 PM
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hardcore feminists You don't have to be a dedicated ideologue in order to treat men poorly and contribute to casual misandrist culture. Basically if you're a woman and you find it impossible to acknowledge male specific suffering then you are the problem. I don't know that I'd say most women are like this but many are - enough that are worth talking about. The real problem is that most women, if they wanted to, probably could get away with this and not be shamed one iota of a peep for doing so. …
/r/MensRights08/04/24 05:23 AM

Why do you want stories? Because that's what I asked for in the post. If you don't want to share, that's fine. That being said, this post does not ask for your dating advice or worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:45 PM

What you’re talking about is women’s whataboutisms to support their shitty hypergamous, I know what I'm talking about. The post is pretty clear. It's actually a lot more specific than just general gendered whataboutism, etc. You just have to avoid these girls as best as you can You're really not hearing me. This post is not asking for dating advice. You said you had 30 more examples. Let's have it. All the stories you won’t boil down to a similar scenario Again, I didn't mean to ask something el…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:19 PM

Like you want a story? Damn dude. I just don't know how clear I can be for you all. The title of the post is a question which reads - Who here has experienced the male availability double bind? Followed by a description of what I'm talking about to be clear. Followed by real life specific examples from my own experiences. Followed by a question highlighted in bold which reads - My question is, for men, have you come across this and what is your story? I could tell 30 more. Then do it. I'm asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:04 PM

If you date around you’re going to experience other chicks dating around. I know this. Again, for maybe the fourth time, this is a question to other men asking about their experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:46 PM

I'm not asking for any of this 'advice' or 'explanation.' The question is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:37 PM

It seems like no one is actually answering the question of the post. Instead, it's a lot of people trying to reimagine things that I've already described in the post or put words in my mouth that I didn't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:36 PM

Okay, you seem to be really struggling with a very fundamental understanding of women and mating. Nah. The post is simply a question to men asking if they've had similar experiences and what they were like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:28 PM

I appreciate that you have thoughts about this. I'm not really struggling for an explanation as much as I'm asking other men if they've had specific similar experiences and what they were like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:24 PM

We have all experienced what you're describing here. Then what are your experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:22 PM
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Women do not date losers. They very often do. Objective losers maybe ^ That's obviously what I'm talking about. Which leads us to the question of what really is a loser now doesn't it? Because it doesn't matter if the guy is a loser or not. The woman simply for any reason or no reason at all rejects him. Keep in mind the context of how I originally used the term 'loser.' You've already taken that term outside of that context and now to the point where it has no meaning. In my original post, 'los…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:59 AM
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It's clear that you're putting absolutely no thought or effort into these comments. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:15 AM
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‘Label’ is not necessarily ‘perceived.’ People are capable of calling others names without believing those things to be actually true. I don’t know or claim to know what women are perceiving or thinking. So stop changing my words. Again, not sure you’re getting the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:04 AM
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Yes, people typically exist on a spectrum, not as a binary option. You will find that most traits that people find attractive are only attractive at a certain point on the bell curve, but on either side of that the attraction falls off. For starters, let's examine your first comment. Never did I say that actual people don't exist on a spectrum. That being said, there is often a vast gulf between what men actually, objectively are and what women label them as based any or no reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:58 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. you believe women perceive me to be This conversation has never been about you at all. Again, I don't think you're grasping the concept of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:53 AM
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It's clear that you're not grasping the concept of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:50 AM
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My conclusion is that we are bundling two types of women into one. I don't know if this is necessarily true. I've talked with many women about this and how they see guys they're dating. I also very much have witnessed women saying something one day and then very strongly saying the opposite a different day. Not only do I not think it's only 'two types of women,' I think it's very often sometimes the same woman, just a different day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:39 AM
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You are making a very big mistake It's not a mistake. You can read some of my examples. The "loser" that she rejects even though he is available is rejected for being a loser, not for being available. He would be rejected even if the woman has no information on the status of his availability trait. That's an assumption. Women date losers all the time. You're assuming that women are knowing enough about the men to know that they are losers. We can objectively evaluate guys as losers but it's hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:34 AM
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'Emotional availability' means a lot of different things to a lot of different people in many situations. I think what some women mean by 'emotional availability' is basically men who are relationship ready. What it often actually is, is that man giving her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:28 AM
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My experience is that women don't like low maintenance men in and out of relationships. In dating, they don't like men who are easy to get along with because it's not a challenge. They don't like being in relationships with low maintenance men because it bothers them being around men who can be happy with so little. I've seen this many times. Men love dating low maintenance women. Those are more rare. Women tend to not like other women who are low maintenance but men love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:26 PM
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It doesn’t matter what the particular comparison is, though I think both are applicable due to the inherent differences between men and women. The fact remains that you consider a list of behaviors tantamount to cheating only if it’s men doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:22 PM
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Okay. So nothing other than cheating is cheating for women. But when it comes to men, all sorts of things outside of cheating are cheating. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:13 PM
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Lol. Okay. So then women using sex toys should be cheating right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:09 PM
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What if I’m getting off to this post right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:53 PM
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So, women getting attention from other men is cheating too then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:50 PM
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Male victims of domestic violence don’t usually get any support at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:27 PM
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I mean, yes?? Why would anyone want to have kids that old? Ask old women who freeze their eggs. Lots of people. LOL. 'Sperm quality' please. Everything degrades when you get older. If men are able to have kids and still want to have kids, like what should that be illegal? "Proper dad stuff." Lol. As if that's an age specific thing. Then tell me where is the line for that? Certain age - Nope, you can no longer be a father figure to someone. As if YOUNG fathers are SUPER ON POINT with being father…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:57 AM
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If you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:21 AM
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a man that old would be running into pretty significant health problems while his child is relatively young. That's not necessarily true though. 45 is not even old. Lol. should forget about it. What people should do, according to kids on the internet. Lol. You should put away that TikTok and stop with the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:02 AM
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Men and women have different situations in life. I don't make the rules. What I referred to as morally repugnant is the notion that 'men need impregnate a woman before 45 if they desire to reproduce.' Pretty disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:57 AM
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I mean. If women have to worry about starting a family before age thirty then I really don’t care if you find it morally repugnant to think a man should have children by forty five. What? I literally don't understand what you're trying to say with this. I didn't make a rule that men are able to father children at older ages than women are able to have them. I did not make that a rule. Just make anything you say make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:49 AM
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My uncle is forty, fat, ugly and smokes and managed to get a wife and have four kids. She however was ugly. Okay. What's your point? Lol. I mean men on this sub say that about women who are thirty and older. It’s not that different. I think it really IS that different. Some people, men and women, consider certain dating ages appropriate. Are these men also uncompromising on appearance, height, income, weight, etc? Lol. We all know what women want because we've listened to them. Lol. Some men jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:43 AM
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I have pretty flexible standards personally. I’d be open to dating just about anyone at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:13 AM
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Most men have pretty flexible standards. Especially compared to women. You would think that would be enough to refute the claim in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:13 AM
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Up above them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:11 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/s/AH4rGqV0t2
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:10 AM
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That last sentence is not true though and we’ve been over this many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:02 AM
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When you’re a man and you’re looking to date, marriageable options don’t just come to you. Lol. Options come to women. Most men are invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:00 AM
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I already have very low standards. Ugly women still have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:58 AM
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Where did I say that was the ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:56 AM
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So again it’s ‘mens’ fault.’ I don’t think you understand how dating works. Men who don’t get noticed don’t have options. With no options, there’s no ‘potentially should’ve’ anything. In fact it’s probably smart for men to build up stability. In the end, you’re basically saying that if you haven’t impregnated a woman by 45 then forget about it. I can’t think of anything more morally repugnant that’s been mentioned here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:54 AM
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Yea sure. Lots of incredibly rare things still exist sometimes. What’s your point? You what about that conjoined twins that still found a decent husband. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:48 AM
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If you’re a man and want to reproduce, you can’t really date 40+ women. Like you physically have no choice. Lol. Those 40+ dudes have been trying their whole lives to get noticed by any woman. It probably didn’t work for them in their 20s and 30s. So after investing in their career for decades they come to realize - women still don’t like them. What do you honestly expect these guys to do? Lol. Divorced women with kids look for men with money and no kids all the time. How is it all of a sudden n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:45 AM
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Old women chose not secure a man in their youth. Promiscuous women chose to be promiscuous. Fat women chose to let themselves go. Short men have no control over the height they were born with yet we are allowed to openly judge them. This place is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:38 AM
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I know an anecdotal token short guy exception to the rule!!! That means the exception is now the rule!!!! Women prefer short men!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:30 AM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:28 AM
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It really just means men leaving dating. Somehow it has to ‘also mean something else,’ the more sinister the better. Spite is irrelevant if you’re no longer interacting with women in the first place. If you’re spiteful, how do you know? You don’t if you’re a woman because they’re not interacting with you. Lol. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:11 AM
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I literally only wrote this in response to comments in this post from women suggesting that the problem is mens’ simping. We have women who are complaining about something that often benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:52 PM
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This is a double bind. The only party creating the double bind is women in this scenario. Which obviously means that the only way this can be changed is if women can manage their feelings and expectations better. We do not have a mechanism that forces women to do this. It's a double bind because it stands as follows: As men we are expected to 'provide' for women. Men who are perceived by women as 'inadequate providers' are disregarded and seen as men who are 'less than' as men. Cheap, broke, dus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:25 PM
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Men going their own way = misogyny. Got it.
/r/MensRights30/03/24 11:54 PM
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Women aren’t even into casual hookups so it doesn’t even make sense. If you look around most men date down even lower because they want a woman who will stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:44 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:25 AM
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Why should women take advice from people who loathe them? It's common to see tradcons and red pillers alike... ^ When you reduce advice to 'who speaks it' rather than weighing the merits of the actual advice, then that's when you know we have truly lost the plot as a thinking society. This topic seems to really focus on the 'who' is giving the advice. The challenge of advice is really to sort out the truth of which advice is worth listening to. Sometimes the right advice is not what people want …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:48 PM
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? I’m not sure what you’re describing. Look. You created the hypothetical situation of “men going away.” If they’re going away they’re going away. How women respond to that is not relevant to men who have already left. Just make your own scenario make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:22 AM
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If men are going away then they likely don’t give a shit so who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:12 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:35 AM
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I don’t think ‘most women’ do at all is what I’m saying. Lol. https://statusofwomendata.org/explore-the-data/employment-and-earnings/employment-and-earnings/#MedianAnnualEarnings https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity https://www.statista.com/statistics/241535/percentage-of-childless-women-in-the-us-by-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:15 PM
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Can most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 09:55 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 09:49 PM
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I've already explained why it's important to a declaration post entitled: "I would rather be single than settle for a man." Lol. It says it's about her and the reason you know that is because of the title, where it says "I would..." Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:51 AM
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I said I haven't been 200 pounds all my life. But you've been over that before. it's kinda weird that it's being focused on this much tbh I don't think it's that big of a deal Yea. It's kind of weird that you've made a post dying on the hill of 'you can have any standards you want for any or no reason.' Now people are beginning to piece together why the speaker would say such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:00 AM
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If a standard is "out of touch with reality" then that would exit the realm of "healthy and happy" yes? Even so, I guess I don't comprehend this attitude that random bystanders can determine what standards another person should have? People just wouldn't agree with you, that's all. You're the one here posting a general blanket statement. Lol. You're allowed to do you, just don't expect people to agree with that being reasonable. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:06 AM
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It kind of is important to your post and I explained exactly why. I don’t think that people would agree with ‘whatever standards that they want’ if the example set for that is unreasonable and out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:54 AM
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But you just said you’ve never been 200 pounds in your life. Lol. This is everything anyone needs to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:48 AM
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This post is meaningless without your actual bare minimum requirements list. “Settling” can be anything including but not limited to perspectives that are completely out of touch with reality. If your perspective is out of touch with reality you still have the right to choose that but since you’re posting here, people do have the right to have an opinion on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:45 AM
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That’s what their idea of ‘friendship’ is though with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:34 AM
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Right. So it's a better idea. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:00 AM
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Do you think sex should only be reserved for people that you’re in love with? It kind of depends on what you want in life. So you didn't have feelings for him but you still chose to have sex with him. This was a rhetorical lead in to my question that you didn't even attempt to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:04 PM
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Everyone experiences sex differently when they’re knew to it so no need to judge. But you realize that people still do judge others based on the choices they make in life right? The guy i first had sex with was a good guy, super respectful, but yeah, i wasn’t in love or anything So you didn't have feelings for him but you still chose to have sex with him. How many guys have you turned away because you 'didn't have feelings for?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:40 PM
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"Bruh." Did you not read what you wrote? Not having a relationship protects you emotionally from someone having who can potentially hurt you. That’s what drove me to lose my virginity with someone I knew I wasn’t compatible with. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:25 PM
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Right. So just have sex with people you know it won’t work out with instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:09 PM
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Yea. So just have sex with people you know it wouldn’t work out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:08 PM
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I think the point is that women try to justify their bad choices. When they don't end up with the result they want, they sometimes end up later complaining about it being mens' fault somehow. I don't have anything invested in caring about a woman who ends up not getting her desired outcome whatever that is. I just don't have as much sympathy for a woman who has made poor choices. I also certainly would not date a woman who has made poor choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 09:33 PM
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and you're 6 ft 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:51 PM
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I don't understand the logic of this either. You should want to share sex with someone you actually see a potential future with. It's shit like this that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:51 PM
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Yea. Seriously. Somehow women on here read 'men don't want to wife up the town bicycle' and translate that to 'men are only interested in women who are virgins' lol. Happens every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:48 PM
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Nice false dilemma. I don’t need a maid. I don’t need the woman I date to have a job or an income.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:39 AM
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Neither of these accomplish anything and are both a waste of time. tell you that they like you but don’t want physical intimacy with you ^ Well then they don't like you. Simple as that. If I'm looking for a romantic connection with someone and she says she doesn't want physical intimacy, then she either doesn't like me in that very necessary way or it's simply a situation where I'm never going to get the kind of dynamic that I need from that connection - and this is a primary relationship need -…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:22 PM
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Forcing people who don't want children/marriage to do it anyways doesn't always make a better society Does it sometimes? Neither way makes a difference honestly. If people are "forced" to breed like rabbits Idiocracy style, perhaps we will have opportunity to crash the system. The world will be populated and troubled. If we stay on this path and leave everything up to choice, fewer and fewer people will choose to have kids including people who probably should be having kids. So, again, it looks …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:35 AM
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What does that have to do with us? I don't know what you're asking. I don't know who 'us' is. This seems to be close to getting off topic. why are you taking it personally There's really no taking anything 'personally.' I said what I came here to say and I stand by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:25 PM
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As a man, it's pretty soul crushing seeing this stuff literally happen at the frequency that it does today ^ I know that women are going to behave how they behave regardless of what I do or say. There's no frustration here so much as sadness for those people involved. ...what is the expectation of honesty here? Are women supposed to like go sport a Scarlet Letter for a week every time they have sex in a non-committed relationship? Why don't you just ask women what their expectation of 'honesty' …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:10 PM
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If they are invisible, you don't know or will not be able to assess accurately. Right. But you realize there exist assessment outside of self-assessment. Even within self-assessment, we know that average women will on the whole have more options than average men. And that's really all people are saying here. but they rarely stop to think about how that doesn't make sense on the face of it. Where is the part that 'doesn't make sense,'? This is clearly the point of why these conversations are happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:39 PM
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That there are any women who could be invisible to them. I think that may be partially attributed to the fact that less women are invisible to men. Men tend to consider a wider net than women. There are people who are invisible to everyone for the purposes of relationships. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:33 PM
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which is different from "claiming" its not casual 🤦‍♀️ through lying or omission of key details. ^ might very well be the case. i would never have argued with you if you just said women describe casual sex differently than men do. My thesis statement is not very controversial. Many women distance themselves from 'casual sex' in various ways because they don't like how 'casual sex' sounds as applied to them. yes but "claims" are explicit. i've never heard a woman who has had casual sex claim it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:25 PM
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Outright deny what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:52 PM
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did you mean you infer that's what women are doing a lot, then? No. You can read my comment again. I discussed different categories disavowing their association with 'casual sex' in various ways per my original comment. I said what I came here to say and I stand by it. these things are mutually exclusive. If you actually read the full length of my comment you would know that I discuss situations where women refer to a sexual episode and attempt to skirt around its 'casualness' through lying or o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:50 PM
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It's more so a conversation about options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:14 PM
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With a lot more of those men being invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:14 PM
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What's your frustration? I never expressed a frustration. I responded to a comment that suggested - 'casual sex people' hunt for 'casual sex people.' Like people wear name tags that say 'casual sex person.' The reality is that there are many women who don't self-identify as 'casual sex people' and yet literally with their actions engage in casual sex. See also my entire comment. a guy complaining that women maintain a public facade of innocence but secretly enjoy sex can only be frustrating for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:24 PM
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It won't necessarily sound like anything if it serves someone to keep that real actual sexual activity they're having a secret. So what it sounds like is irrelevant. That's kind of how that works. Also, it takes so many forms on account of there being so many different types of people, stages of life, and situations. As I've already described earlier in previous comments, many women don't like associating themselves with the term 'casual sex.' So, in surveys you will find that a pretty low perce…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:47 PM
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i've never heard a woman who has had casual sex claim it wasn't casual? I've heard it quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:43 AM
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Are you saying that EVERY SINGLE WOMAN I mean, you can read what I wrote. I said many not EVERY SINGLE WOMAN. lol. The point is not so much the percentage of women who do it but simply to point out the phenomenon of hiding behind terms such as 'casual sex' and 'sex positivity' as a ruse. It's so easy to point out how it's a very small of a percentage women who self-identify as 'casual sex' women. That doesn't mean shit. Of course they don't 'self-identify' with that because they 'don't like' the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:07 PM
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Where on this sub are men saying "I just want some good pussy" etc? And more to the point not being then met with a torrent of name calling and/or ban?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:48 PM
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every single guy who says he's a nice person You people are truly hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:45 PM
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There's a lot of men who are simply incapable of a decent level of talking, joking, flirting. I understand this and I addressed it in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:32 AM
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I think that having a healthy body is a good thing but is still fundamentally superficial if you're speaking about it as a factor in attraction. Unless the way you meet guys is strictly on the beach I guess, you may not know what a guy has going on. For it to be a factor then it's clear what you're looking for. One could have a very healthy body and not 'stand out' for example. If you're choosing guys for height, for example, then that's actually a relatively poor measurement of 'health' - lots …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:09 AM
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I think that's actually the thing that's the most upsetting about it. Being liked for things that are totally superficial and aren't really about who you are as a person is a pretty empty feeling. First of all, fruit is reasonably healthy. These women don't want fruit, they want candy and redbull. Having had experiences as a man, seeing how women operate, it's pretty disgusting. I have put myself into situations where I've been seen as very delicious candy and redbull but the thing that sucks ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:38 AM
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Most people do not care IRL. I'm pretty sure there's IRL backlash because I've seen it. That being said, per my previous comment, that's what I was talking about. I was talking about here, online, on this sub. And sure, the backlash is disproportionate on here. That's part of the context of what I was talking about. It makes it hard to talk about things here and everywhere when this is the kind of rules for thee not for me one way policing of discourse. Even if it just happens online it's still …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:19 AM
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I don't know if this is the same thing. With what women have done to the term 'nice guys' it now no longer has any meaning. Secondly, who is going to describe themself as 'not nice'? And why would that somehow be better? What baffles men about this one is that there are morally unscrupulous players out there who effectively pass off of superficial charm and it gets them success with women. This is despite the fact that there are many very sincere, truly good hearted, well-meaning men who never e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:34 AM
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Just choose people who fit your values. That's what I just said. Sexual choices are part of that. You're the only one objecting here. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:16 AM
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You can read what I actually wrote and it’s not that. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:04 AM
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Sexual choices are part of values lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:03 AM
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If a woman has an LTR it doesn’t discount what men still prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:02 AM
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Well, good news, it's not slimy. Not everyone has the same values. You may be slimy to someone in a moral sense or it may simply be the reason you are ruled out by many men. They are allowed to have preferences too. hold themselves to the same "virtuous" standards they hold for women. Men become what works and avoid what doesn't work. Women aren't as bothered by men who are experienced. Men and women are different. I don't make the rules. At least men are saying what they want. Women hear it and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:10 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:47 AM
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It really shouldn't be. People are evaluated by the choices they make in life. The notion that your sexual choices should be exempt from that is pretty slimy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:46 AM
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don't really love it and it's not your goal Sometimes they just say that's 'not their goal' because that sounds nice. There's a meme about women who say 'no hookups' on their dating app profiles - it's alarmingly often the case that those exact women often do or have often done hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:42 AM
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Early and mid 20s people by and large are not doing this. I don't know that this is the case. I know lots of 30 and 40+ women who spin plates, in some cases are married. It's very much normal to have some level of sexual activity the 2nd date even if it's not sex. Okay. Again, your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:39 AM
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Sometimes you just want a good dicking? Imagine being a man and saying the equivalent. What kind of reaction would you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:07 AM
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Is the facade of innocence thing an old people thing? I think a lot of that depends on if the girl sees you as long-term relationship material or a fuccboi right? Regardless, I think it's kind of common in general, younger or older, for people to not disclose a lot of stuff as a general procedure. We can't pretend that 'making him wait' doesn't exist as a strategy because we know it exists. It exists and women often actually admit it as a calculated intention. And I think a lot of guys would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:02 AM
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Nobody gives a shit that the avocado will be lovely in four days when they want guacamole now. Kind of speaks to a mentality. But none of that changes the fact that people shopping for ripe fruit buy ripe fruit. Sometimes people regularly go to the candy aisle, but they should really incorporate some vegetables into their diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:42 AM
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Casual sex people There are a lot of women out there who dish out the term 'casual sex' and insist that they are definitely not a part of that 'icky sounding' group despite the fact that this is indeed what they engage in regularly. Some keep it as a secret and others rebrand to the terminology 'sex positive' - it sounds empowering and less 'icky' but is essentially the same thing. So, I think it's actually more complicated than you say. And this is exactly the problem that many men have. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:36 AM
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You can show them any time you have them. You made the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:51 AM
3

Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:42 AM
4

That’s not exactly abnormal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:41 AM
3

Grey in your 40s is not premature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:36 AM
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Probably. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:15 AM
1

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:01 PM
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That’s not what I said. What I said is, more often than not, a male 4 is invisible to a female 4. Which, you would think doesn’t make sense, but it’s what’s happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:00 PM
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What he's saying is that even the women who are 4's act like they deserve men who are 9's and 10's.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:40 AM
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Sometimes it really is that simple. I’m sure we could put more effort into imagining others to be max level demonic if that was our goal or imagining situations to be infinitely complex when they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:43 AM
2

Chores are very deep and meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:00 AM
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A: Introverted stoner nerds who’s idea of a good time is playing Nintendo Group A listed video games. I am saying passive hobby so what do I mean by that, a passive hobby is any interest that involves consumption of media. This includes video games, TV, movies, social media usage, pretty much 90% of entertainment and internet based activities. Note passive hobbies are not a bad thing they are just not interesting as they are the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:07 PM
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^ I don't think that this is exactly what your post says.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:03 PM
2

I don't think that works. Ask OP about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:02 PM
2

she will literally fill in the gaps in a mans personality if he's pretty enough They will tell themselves the story they want to believe. she'll make you the total package if you're quiet and good looking Having been on both sides of this, it's disgusting and soul-crushing. And it doesn't end there, women try to gaslight us about it as if it doesn't even exist and that our lived experiences are not real or valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:57 PM
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if you don't approach her and flirt in the exact way she wants at that moment Pretty much. And that moment could change.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:52 PM
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This is cope and a self-own. If you need a man for entertainment, it sounds like you're boring. Plenty of amazingly interesting guys are single. Some don't even get a chance to play the game because you have to get the date first and then people can really get to know each other's lives and interests in detail. but they are hot. Only hot and rich people get away with being boring because they have a quality that makes up for it. Now if you are both boring and not hot what do you have to offer. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:47 PM
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No idea what you’re saying. If you have crabs you might want to get that checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:48 PM
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Because lots of people just say shit. It’s a simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:30 PM
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You're a smart one. Children are a demographic of 'young people' - your words. When you work with kids in the community of a major city, you get to know a lot of people. And when you've been doing things like that for as long as I have, those kids in the beginning are now young adults finishing grad school. Assume more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:53 AM
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The ad hominem makes you look dumb. ^ It's ad hom-ception. People are fully aware that all you do is accuse others of doing the things that you, yourself, do. Somehow, it's 'invalid' for others to do but fully acceptable for you to have already done them 3 comments ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:24 AM
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But you didn’t reply to my comment with the intention of engaging with me Sounds like you're making assumptions about my intentions. You didn’t even really address what I said. When I comment only because of a comment you say, that sounds like a comment that is addressing something you said. It sounds like comments must 'please' you in one way or another or you view them as 'invalid.' That’s not an effective way to have a conversation, now is it? You can say something is 'not an effective way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:11 AM
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Doubtful as I work with kids in my community. Assume more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:44 AM
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Why do old married women who haven’t dated in 20 years regularly come in here and lecture 25 year olds about ‘how dating really is today’? Fuck if I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:37 AM
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I merely pointed out that you’re not the only person/gender in the universe who communicates clearly and consistently and yet gets ignored perhaps on account of gender. It’s a pretty simple concept. You were the first person to bring in personal anecdotes. You’re not the only person in the world who has those. And those should be theoretically just as valid as anyone else’s. By attempting to invalidate my comment you’re trying to invalidate my lived experience and right to express that. You’re o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:33 AM
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Translation “Listen to women hurl names at you. Their feelings are more important than yours.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:28 AM
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That’s not the landscape of this conversation. There doesn’t need to be any proof at all that anything in the house is unclean for a woman to assert that something is not up to her level of satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:21 AM
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I didn’t make generalizations. ​ All the men who insist most women cheat or have someone lined up before leaving are saying that to make themselves look/feel better. ^ This is a generalization. You are dishonest conversation participant. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:10 AM
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Many women do cheat and lining up the next man is a very common strategy. These are things that happen very often. ^ I don’t live in a world where these things don’t exist. Your claim about men moving on quicker is false. Your generalizations about men don’t offer a point. No one believes that you know enough to know ‘most men who x’ anyway. So we don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:06 AM
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Right. Women never cheat or line up the next boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:59 AM
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Misogynists are men that have an opinion that I don’t like. Misandry doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:16 AM
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Pretty much. Glad somebody gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:07 AM
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Women cite housework as a reason for the sexlessness in their relationships. It wouldn’t be a thing if it wasn’t already a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:53 PM
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Being comfortable in a relationship is not necessarily a sign of loyalty Staying in a relationship sounds like more of a commitment to making it work than leaving. Pretty simple concept. breaking up necessarily a sign of disloyalty Yes. Breaking up is the sign of a loyal person. People get uncomfortable because they are too bored In my experience, that's women. Loyalty when you try to compromise to make a relationship work. I never said otherwise. But to compromise, you have to do so in good fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:33 PM
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It’s what your comment is about. And yes, the presumption is that only women go through these kinds of struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:24 PM
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You can’t fathom a situation where women are claiming reality to be different than what it actually is by ‘clean shaming’ whether shit is clean or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:22 PM
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almost always have a new guy lined up. This is what I've seen as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:05 PM
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getting dumped with either all or the bulk of it This is what women tend to claim that the reality always is. Even in cases where the real reason is she's cheating and wanting to move on to be with the man she's cheating with. Dishes are always there as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:04 PM
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Well, then he would be guilty of being 'insecure' and that would be the reason she leaves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:00 PM
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The amount of times I've done that to a woman and was treated as if I wasn't allowed to have a voice because I 'don't have feelings' because I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:59 PM
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Which is really a question of - who's actually checking out first? In my experience, it's the men tired of having to deal with the women's poor attitude, high maintenance bs and the sex has stopped. I don't blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:58 PM
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most of the time we do not have a guy lined up to breakup Perhaps not you, but many women do. It's a thing only because it's a thing. If not, it wouldn't be a thing. Checking out happens because some grievances are repeated Men check out too. A man's checking out, could actually happen first and be the reason for her checking out down the road. But as we know only women are allowed to have grievances and check out, and then leave. They are often blindsided because something that is not important…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:54 PM
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Pretty standard on this sub tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:47 PM
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Which of the two is more likely?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:46 PM
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This is a question for men for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:44 PM
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We are don’t to listen to women and believe them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:35 PM
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We’re not here to debate the premise. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:34 PM
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You’re not a man, though. This is a question for men and there’s a reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:28 PM
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That’s cool. But she must have some gripes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:26 PM
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Yes. Women never cite housework as a factor in sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:25 PM
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This makes no sense. You clearly are not understanding what I wrote. But you disprove that line of logic yourself, by saying this: If a man has to do something to “earn sex” again the relationship is pretty much over Yes. Newsflash, there are relationships where women play games with sex, whether they still have attraction or not. There's not a 'lack of logic' by acknowledging that as a real phenomenon. Nothing can fix a lack of attraction Which is what I've been saying. women don’t claim that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 11:33 AM
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No. There’s no mistake there. They’re saying what they’re saying, firstly. Secondly, it could just as easily be - no sex - > guy is hurt and resentful - > chores really have no meaning if there’s no longer any sex - > if a man has to do something to ‘earn sex’ again then the relationship is pretty much over. The context is women are wanting guys to do chores even though chores have never been easier in the history of chores and they claim that men ‘not helping out’ with chores ‘not getting done’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:34 AM
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This post is a question for men, not a data discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:33 AM
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I’ve heard about this and it sounds sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:18 AM
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Firstly, there is no 'moral dimension' to clean shaming. Anyone can always just say something is 'never clean enough' for any or no reason. Is it 'moral' to select a guy who's slightly better at housework than another guy? There's no 'morality' in that at all. Secondly, because it's clean shaming, that would be more of a self-own on the woman. Cleanliness is something that women dick-swing over when they compare themselves to other women. And they use clean shaming to exert power over men in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:58 AM
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The question is for MEN and the question is - does it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:14 AM
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Again. As I’ve said before to others it’s only a talking point because it exists. If it didn’t exist, it wouldn’t be a talking point. We’re not here to debate the premise. This is a question for men who’ve found themselves in this situation and seeing as how you’re not a man, you can see yourself out. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:12 AM
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This is the kind of thing that’s very disheartening to hear and it’s the response that I hear about most often.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:28 AM
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she’d maybe start having sex if he did housework? ^ This is kind of the point of the post now, isn't it? The question is basically to find out if men have stepped up the housework and have actually gotten a more satisfying sex life out of doing so. That's the question. And there's a reason why I'm only asking men who've tried it. If it’s not an issue that he’d maybe start doing housework if they had sex why is it wrong that she’d maybe start having sex if he did housework? ^ Why is it wrong that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:57 AM
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I have had experiences like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:51 AM
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Tight. What does she complain about then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:50 AM
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^ Those are just words. Anyone can say that. If a man says this - that's not to be trusted. But because you're saying it and you're a woman, it makes sense to take you at your word.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:44 AM
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If a man’s not doing housework because he believes going to work makes him exempt there could be resentment. This sounds like a specific scenario. This could be what is happening and what the man is thinking or maybe that's just what the woman imagines this man is doing and thinking. Maybe there's also a man who brings in such an amount of money that, maybe, the most efficient thing for that couple is for him to, actually, take his mind off housework. ^ We just don't know what's happening becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:53 AM
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Ah. Downvoted for truthfully answering at face value. Dagnabbit. Got me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:19 AM
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Yes. Several. Are you a man? Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:45 AM
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Okay, throwaway. Answer me this: How does it make a woman come across as ‘more moral’ to housework shame her man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:26 AM
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Are you a man with an answer to my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:57 AM
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Right. Which is why they studied more than just one couple. Are you for real? If you don’t have answer you can just say you don’t have one. Or say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:50 AM
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So in the study there’s a chart. It shows ‘core household work’ and ‘sex.’ Did you look at it? It is a common thing that women say and it’s common in counseling. If you don’t have an answer then you don’t have an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:45 AM
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The only reason it’s a talking point here and elsewhere before I even posted this is because many women say specifically that. It’s just not part of the debate because we know it as something that is commonly said. It’s a common conversation in couples counseling as well as I’ve already pointed out. The man brings up his grievance of - we don’t have sex, only for the counselor and the woman to agree that the real change begins with the man doing more work around the house. Again, the only reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:35 AM
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I came here to ask a hypothetical question to men in response to something pretty specific that I’ve seen a lot of women say. This isn’t about what I think. But nice try attempting to change the subject to make it about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:20 AM
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It sounds like you’re changing the subject. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:16 AM
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So why do women proclaim that extra work around the house will result in more sex then? Are you saying it’s not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:12 AM
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It’s practically a dead bedroom trope online and off. The only reason it’s a topic is because this is what women say and it’s actually a stock conversation in couples counseling. So if you say it ‘increases the likelihood of sex happening’ does that mean it results in real actual increased sex in your experience? If it’s so simple you should be able to answer the question as stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:08 AM
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We’ve already seen women say it and say it in that way. Are you suggesting that it’s not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:04 AM
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Yea, but the ‘do more housework, bro’ is literally what women say on this issue. Both sides of it in fact. The starting point could be - man wants more sex -> housework, duh. Or - housework-> will have more sex. I’m only going off of what women literally say on this issue. The question is, has it worked for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:53 AM
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What do you say to all the women who say that then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:38 AM
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But it’s what women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:37 AM
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I’ve literally heard women in real life say that they treat men like toilet paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 11:38 PM
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Sounds like you at least have a great mom.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 05:08 AM
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It’s quite often the case that women don’t even respect the men that they, themselves, choose on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:34 AM
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Yes. That’s right. I did not even know who she was until today when I read this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:20 AM
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The super bowl is one game lol. And you’re including all of the Olympic sports together as one thing. Lol. Again, it’s a dating situation not a famous contest. The Rando NFL player is going to have a guaranteed stature, and one that I think is undeserving mind you. It just is. I didn’t know who she was until today. None of her popularity stats make dudeface a liar for not knowing her at first. Again. Let’s ask women if they would rather blind date an NFL player or a top male gymnast. Let’s ask m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:00 AM
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Cool. None of this has anything to do with what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:36 AM
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I doubt that you would recognize the names of all the NFL players on your local team. I don't watch NFL football. But. I'm pretty sure I could interview people and they would know all about their local NFL teams dating back many years. It sounds like we're getting really off track. This isn't a famous contest so much as it's about dating. Let's have a poll and we will ask only women - dating age, single women. The question will be - Without knowing who this person is, specifically, would you pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:30 AM
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Compared to what? All other Olympics events? Olympic Ping Pong? What is it that you're trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:25 AM
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The NFL is the biggest league in the world according to revenue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue It dwarves everything else in terms of revenue per match. So, it's pretty big. Soccer is the only thing that's bigger worldwide. There are many Olympic events that aren't very big. So to say just because something is an Olympic event means it's 'bigger' is not the case for better or for worse. It's just how is. I don't make the rules. The only claim I made…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:23 AM
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Who are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:17 AM
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That’s cool. I just learned about her today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:15 AM
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You can have whatever relationship philosophy you want and I support you. I already expressed my point which has nothing to do with your personal situation. For the most part, a woman making more money than a man is not a huge draw for that man when that man is considering prospective dates. I don’t make the rules, that’s just how it, in general, mostly tends to go. And that’s literally the only point I had to say about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:55 AM
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Again, I just learned about her today. I knew about the other two already.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:52 AM
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And yet I just learned about her today because I don’t follow gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:51 AM
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same money when we first started getting serious exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:29 PM
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"Trust me bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:28 PM
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So you don’t even know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:03 PM
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When you were first dating your wife, were you like - oh wow, she makes more money than me, this is going to be awesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:01 PM
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he might want her to have his kids If he valued her so much then maybe he would've spoken differently, right? they might just get along great and have a ton of fun together. Sounds like they're together for a reason and even after this interview. my wife makes more money than me and I love every minute of it. She doesn’t keep her money separate or whatever. Good for you. I'm not sure this speaks to the majority of relationship dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:00 PM
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It looks like he supposedly has a net worth of about 5 million according to the internet. It looks like she has a net worth of about 16 million. She's about done with her career, he's maybe about mid-career. Ah, but this is a conversation about dating, now isn't it? Guys don't date women for their money, largely because they'll never see a dime of it - "her money is her money, and his money is their money" - we all know how it works. So, no. A man who's worth about 5 mil and is still playing in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:51 PM
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I mean, what isn't a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:36 PM
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I never commented at all on the recognizability of Michael Phelps. I didn't come here to talk about Michael Phelps and I didn't realize this conversation was about Michael Phelps. That being said, I know who Michael Phelps is. I just learned about Simone Biles today. Do you know who the all-time GOAT of PingPong is? Who's the GOAT of cricket? Who's the GOAT of mid-distance running? Who's the GOAT of curling? It's simply to say that some sports are more recognized due to their following. Merit ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:26 PM
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I don’t think it’s the same because I just learned about her today. More to the point, this shows that in sports there are some that are simply more recognized than others. Who’s the GOAT of ping pong? Shouldn’t that be at the same level? It’s just not. I don’t make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:40 PM
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I don’t think it’s the same because I just learned about her today. More to the point, this shows that in sports there are some that are simply more recognized than others. Who’s the GOAT of ping pong? Shouldn’t that be at the same level? It’s just not. I don’t make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:40 PM
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Well if women shouldn’t do it either then why did this reaction even happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:37 PM
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The top gymnasts in the world are not at the same status of NFL players. They’re just not. They might actually be more accomplished but they don’t get paid the same and they don’t have as wide a net of attention in society. I don’t make the rules it’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:33 PM
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One example is the paragraph you wrote that starts with “Johnathan shouldn’t be comparing who the prize is…” It’s as if you’re saying men shouldn’t but women should. It happens all the time because a man’s status is important to women. And that’s the point of why I made my original comment. It’s in your own view of the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:30 PM
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Right. And I don’t care about either gymnastics or the NFL and I know neither of them. But I know enough to know that even the mid level NFL players get high status and earn a lot of money. I think there are more women who’d want to date this guy than there are guys wanting to date her. And lastly, NFL players enjoy a higher status than many other athletes who are the #1 in the world at their sport. I don’t make the rules, it’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:27 PM
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Iron Man is a fictional character. So that’s a self own. I don’t know enough of her to even know if she’s globally recognized or not, so I’m not ‘acting’ like anything. I simply don’t know who she is or why she’s relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:23 PM
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Well think about it this way, do even the top male gymnasts have the same status as NFL players?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:21 PM
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Who tf is Travis Scott? Why is that relevant? My comment here is simply to say when we have a situation where the man is higher status we generally tend to trivialize that gap, but when women are of higher status it’s very well noted by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:19 PM
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I don’t care for NFL but I at least know that name. Not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:16 PM
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Who can’t name Messi? That’s kind of the point now isn’t it. All I know at this point is the name of this woman. I have no idea what she looks like and I have no idea why she’s important. I just learned this afternoon that she’s a gymnast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:14 PM
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You know there are probably 100s of thousands of professional level soccer players in the world. Could you name and recognize all of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:05 PM
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I wouldn’t date a cruel bigoted man. You've created a monster that is easy to agree with. Who wouldn't be in the camp of - they wouldn't date a 'cruel bigoted' person? Do you want a merit badge? It's telling how you had to make it so extreme. You couldn't just say 'bigoted.' You had to say, 'cruel bigoted.' It suggests that just 'regular common variety vanilla bigoted' might pass the test for you. LOL. Sounds like you just now said the wrong part out loud. LOL. people who don’t have the presence…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:17 PM
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racist 'Racist' was never said in my comment. Nothing in my quote rules out racist women seeking out racist men. It happens all the time. There is a key word in the passage you quoted. That word is 'despite.' To use your example, a 'racist' woman aligning herself with a 'racist' man is not doing so 'despite' said man's racist characteristics. No where do I refer to all or any women as 'perfect angels.' Notice how I said 'one reason or another' rather than something in particular like 'racist' pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:52 PM
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A lot of women might chose a guy for one reason or another despite the fact that he totally doesn’t have the presence of mind you’re referring to. So, there’s that. A side observation is simply to say - it appears that you place quite a lot of value in a guy’s ‘presence of mind to not say [what he truly thinks inside].’ I think that, when you’re talking about a person’s character, what they think inside still matters. Whether they say it out loud or not is kind of irrelevant. They just might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:49 AM
1

I work, cook, clean, do all my own chores, have done so for years, have a great place in a major city, I always get compliments, people ask if I hire a maid, I don’t. Single. Have not even gotten a whiff of a date in years. This issue is either disingenuous clean shaming, or you’re picking the wrong dudes from the very beginning, or you’re picking the right dudes when it comes to other things but you expect them to do and be everything for you. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:19 AM
10

The last sentence kind of says it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:03 AM
105

This response is awful as well. Blame the ‘manosphere’ and recommend men do all the work and change. Women can keep being how they are, apparently.
/r/MensRights03/03/24 03:49 AM
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#1 - I don't know if 100% of 'red pill aligned men' see what you posted as phrased as 100% so literal. Firstly, the underlying concept of #1 is simply to say that - if there is no initial attraction in the early stages of dating, then as a man, you're probably not going to get the kind of connection that you want with this particular woman. Sex is the preferred form of intimacy that men want, that's just how it is. As an adult male, I don't read this issue strictly as - sex on the first date bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:36 PM

It’s completely out of touch because you made a comparison that doesn’t hold true to reality. Many people might dislike cheerleaders. Your claim was that they are hated the same way. They’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:47 AM

Just not interested in them. Your main thesis of ‘these people hate those people the same way’ is way out of touch with reality. So, no, it doesn’t ‘stand’ at all. Women have the kind of hatred for fuckbois that they then project on all other men as a whole. That is simply not the same kind of hatred the other way around in any universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:40 AM

It’s not worth the headache of having to deal with them and I don’t want a whore’s mouth piece touching me anyway. So, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:34 AM

Nah. I don’t like the super hot cheerleaders because they suck. Way simpler explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:21 AM

Too reductive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:18 AM

r/ijusthadastroke
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:39 AM

More posts that would have a point if they weren’t so poorly articulated. Seems pretty intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:26 AM
1

Yes. Because there’s really no burden or expectation for her to do shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:14 PM
1

Every guy pays for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:55 AM
1

Not really. Like I said, whether you accept evidence or not, men are, in general, more horny than women. I don’t make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:22 AM
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It’s usually a temporary thing. You really need consult the interviews with these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:55 AM
1

Firstly, nah. Secondly, men are hornier whether you accept any evidence or no evidence. Just ask women who have upped their testosterone for medical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:40 AM
0

The average encounter isn’t going to be rockin a guy’s world either, he just gettin his skeet on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:51 AM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:58 PM
4

Just because some women will cheat does not mean that they have a higher or even libido than men. People have sex for many different reasons. I never said that the majority of anyone would act on it. I simply said it’s far easier for women to have access to sex. I mean, could you imagine if every woman acted on every opportunity they could have sex every single time?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:22 AM
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I don’t think womens’ libidos are higher, and from what I’ve seen, most red pill associated people acknowledge the difference in libido between men and women. They often cite the experience of women who take testosterone for medical purposes. “Women cheat as much as men” is easily explained by the fact that it’s much easier for women to get sex despite the fact that women as a whole have lower libidos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:26 AM
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Access to sex is easier for women. That’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:07 AM
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Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:06 AM
5

It's almost as if some of these posts start with reasonable premises and crash on purpose to poison the well. How do you possibly go from "50/50 doesn't work because it's not really 50/50 when you think about it" to "keeping women 'trapped' is a great idea, and it's an even better idea to describe it exactly like that."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:36 PM

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:45 PM
30

Every woman’s dream is to work in a dealership. It’s a shame that men work so hard to lock women out of those automotive / sales commission type jobs.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 07:48 PM

Yea. It’s terrible to have a system in place where one income can provide a life for two adults and children. Just awful. Even women think it’s horrible to have the financial burden off their shoulders so they could have more time around the home or work any job or occupation of their choosing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:22 PM
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I think most guys would be fine with a big labia even if not all men are. Let’s find an example that actually ‘icks’ men and they don’t let it slide. Guy learns the woman is a single mother, gets the ick, and gets viscously shamed. This happens all the time with most men’s basic standards. We’ve already seen the memes and video documentation about the long list of women’s icks that are pretty out of control. And also this porn subject is bizarre. It used to be women would call porn girls ugly. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:39 PM
1

We have to change language so much just to not be immediately disqualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:06 AM
4

the cat is fed I love cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:19 AM
5

Great question. Thank you for the positive feedback. Sometimes it's hard to come up with an engaging question. Even though you can inspire very interesting responses and conversations, it can feel hard sometimes when you look at it, and it says 62% upvoted but voted down to zero upvotes. This is without taking into account the very negative comments that are here to condemn the mere thought of asking a question like this in the first place. make sure he is feeling loved and appreciated and cared…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:17 AM
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when would i ever be with a man i didnt want to keep Despite what you might think, you're not the only person in the universe. I did not formulate this question with you in mind. It's simply a question that acknowledges the fact that some women might be dating a man casually or a man that they're not that serious about keeping around long term. Obviously if a woman doesn't care or is indifferent toward a man longer term, then the question wouldn't really apply or have the same weight to it. So, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:10 AM
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you can’t say I can't say because I'm not you. Your opinion is yours. that’s exactly what this is. At least explain for us why you think that. I will not do anything extra to keep him. Nowhere in my post do I imply that anything is "extra." I legitimately don't understand where things comes from or what you mean by this. is worth sabotaging myself for. I don't know how reciprocating love is an act of self-sabotage. It's really all in the words of the post. I don't understand why this is a questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:04 AM
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Why does this seem like a rewording of the question “what do you bring to the table?”? I can't tell you why you think it seems like this. to keep someone who isn’t compatible. I specifically said in the first sentence of the post that this question is about a man you want to keep. Are you trying to keep someone you're not compatible with? "The situation is you're with a man you really want to keep."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:43 AM
1

And sons, and brothers, and uncles,
/r/MensRights21/01/24 12:08 AM
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I'm not anti-data or anti-statistics by any means. I think that part is true. I also think there's plenty of spin on studies that come out, for example - men suffer - 'due to it being men's fault,' men suffer - 'women most effected,' etc. But in addition to data, you really see people mostly on one side trying to get it live, in action, and on camera. There's something about interviewing people and seeing what happens that might convince someone who can't quite accept or conceptualize data. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 03:29 AM
3

The red pill and blue pill represent a choice between the willingness to learn a potentially unsettling or life-changing truth by taking the red pill or remaining in the contented experience of ordinary reality with the blue pill (i.e. the reality principle or the pleasure principle)[1]). The terms originate from the 1999 film The Matrix. It's really this - do you choose to learn potentially unsettling truths (RED) do you choose ignorance is bliss (BLUE) This is the reference they pulled for tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:55 AM
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I’m sorry, are women immune to jail/being sued/the police? Firstly, any attempt to suggest that the legal system treats men and women equally is delusional - because we already know this is not the case. Secondly, there are misdeeds and wrongdoings that are not crimes - horribly immoral actions but not technically criminal. When men do something horrible but not criminal (in some cases merely questionable but not criminal) people hear about it. In fact, there's quite an open season in our cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:47 PM

Right but again there’s a difference between intention and perception. This has already been explained at length.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:27 PM
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I will say you might be right from the point of view of subjective surveys asking women what they think. Women have a unique ability to solipsistically block out everyone but themselves, they clearly have super powers in the areas of complaining, exaggerating, and painting themselves as victims. So, I would accept the claim that you’d get a lot of that kind feedback by asking women what they think. But, objectively, I don’t think so at all. Firstly it sounds like you have a very narrow view of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:39 PM
1

I think most men simply don't want to commit to a woman who's married to her job. This doesn't mean that women need to be SAH. That being said, if women want traditional men then they should be traditional themselves. The PROBLEM is women expecting traditional treatment but in no way being traditional at all. And it's very common to see out there. That's really the only issue. The average man doesn't have the resources available to support this. I do. Also, women have started to catch on to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:16 PM
1

If you’re ‘embracing’ your insecurities, it sounds like you’re not doing any ‘work’ at all. You can date however you want, I’m just letting you know that this policy you have is really backwards and unfair to both yourself and the men you screen out before you even get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:37 PM
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Men can be horrible people. No one is blind to this. Our prisons are full of them. The vast majority of violent crime is committed by a very small percentage of men. Men, in fact, are so aware that men can be horrible that we’ve established militaries, legal systems, and police forces to ward against horrible men and men who do horrible things. Men receive 60% harsher sentences than women. If there’s any question on this issue, men are aware and in fact hyper vigilant toward the potential danger…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:57 PM
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It’s irrational to EXPECT empathy from ANYONE. Does that mean you’re going to chose to selectively empathize with only women? Is that even empathy at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:36 PM
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Apex Fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:31 PM

Are you a sub 6 ft man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:25 AM
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I know one guy who’s cheated on his gf. I’ve never cheated and most of the guys I know haven’t cheated. I do know a group of married women who brag about cheating on their husbands and openly support each other in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:24 AM
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We don’t agree at all. We agree on biology actually influencing women, which is obvious. Women succeed every day in getting the genetic material they want from one man and resources another. It happens often. Are there no divorces? Are there no single mothers? Are there no instances of paternity fraud? Just be real about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:42 AM
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Yes. That’s exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:34 AM
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Women always cheat and men are always raising kids who aren't theirs. I never said that. I don't agree with it. So we don't agree. I have no idea what the fuck this is referring to. I think you know full well what this refers to. You're trying to make everything 100%, your sarcasm. I get it. But I'm actually saying something serious that has a little bit more nuance to it than that. I sense that you fear there's some truth to what I'm saying and so that's why you're doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:25 AM
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I don't know that I ever meant to suggest that every single woman ALL THE TIME ALWAYS engages in paternity fraud. Are we pretending that it never happens? I mean, we know that it happens. 30% of tests show it's not the father they thought it was. Testing is expensive, not always available, and generally not common, but that's how those tests turned out. You'd think people would see that and test more. Last time there was a paternity test conversation on this sub, women were absolutely flipping o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:13 AM
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Why is it that women stay with men who get sick but men leave women at much higher rates when women get sick (long term illness) The most recent study on this that I've seen was back in 2009. In 2017, I was left by a woman when I was suffering from a serious illness that would have killed me. As I was scheduling the surgery that saved my life, she had already lined everything up with the next boyfriend. She notified me that she was taking her things and that I had to let her out of her part of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:52 AM
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Well, you clearly are performing anti-conceptual mentality, you've trolled in the past, why even come here if you're against discussing anything? Why are you trying to stifle discussion on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:19 AM
-1

So, then it begs the question - why do you even come here to type anything at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:17 AM
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Because some do then all do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:16 AM
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Not only have you proven yourself against conversation on this sub based on 'people you don't like' for any or no reason, but you're showing that you're not even interested in the things you say enough to expand on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:16 AM
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Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:11 AM
6

Yes. Guys are guaranteed to cheat even if they never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:10 AM
-6

What's different about what you're saying and what women literally do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:03 AM
1

It sounds like you’re not even giving them the chance to. Says more about you than it does about them if you’re honest. Your analogy to gay people doesn’t make any sense at all and I think you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:00 AM
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I mean, gee, you might start by getting to know them and prioritize for values? Seems a bit unfair and backwards to use a certain level of attractiveness as a proxy for a lack of ability to be faithful? It sounds like you’re ruling out men for being ‘too attractive’ while completely disregarding the true content of their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:54 AM
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Yea. I don't think guys have an income requirement. Most are not in a position to even if they cared. Just with the stats you mentioned with no factor of attractiveness - Age range : 18 - 85 Not married Any Race At least 6'4" Not obese At least $60,000 per year It says that the probability of a guy meeting this standard is .063% If you don't exclude obese it's .088% I Got Standards Bro - Female Delusion Calculator
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:33 AM
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It depends on what you think a ‘decent income’ is. And I don’t agree that most women are into 6/10 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:17 AM
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I understand that. What I’m saying is that it sounds like women are asking for all of those things as the minimum standard. Even with your comparative - a man who is all those things is at the level of a woman who is simply attractive. https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/s/FJVI3T6aEZ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:15 AM
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Most guys would be willing to date a 6/10 who comes from an average family with average values who doesn’t suffer from TikTok brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:11 AM
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Okay. https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/s/FJVI3T6aEZ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:09 AM
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I simply noted the equivalent comparative you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:06 AM
3

Well it sounds like the expectation is 6’4” plus being hot, plus having lots of money, so, in all honesty, where is the wiggle room?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:02 AM
3

Or just a guy who’s faithful. Why rule out a guy if he’s capable of being faithful to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:53 AM
5

Where’s the wiggle room on the being 6’4” part?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:51 AM
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Nah. Most guys, even way above average guys just want a woman they’re bare minimum attracted to who isn’t a complete nightmare to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:50 AM
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I like how at the end the comparative reveals: Hot woman = Hot man +he’s 6’4” +he’s a millionaire. What is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:49 AM
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I’ve minimally taken it to the Internet. Not sure I could possibly be more low stakes about it. I’ve simply said - rather than lie, don’t lie. If you have a problem with that or a problem with the fact that I’m expressing something so basic on a random online sub, it sounds like you’re the one who needs to seek help. You’re on a self-proclaimed throwaway account, you appear to be deliberately trolling, you don’t have a point, you came in to criticize a comment but now you can’t be bothered to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:32 PM
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But why is that your problem to solve? The war on truth is everyone's problem. I do not presume in any way that I can solve it. Why is me having an opinion on that your problem to solve? Why are you so concerned about the health of women you don't know? Why is it odd in any way to be concerned about public health? Are you the concern police? You have a preference for thinner women, so you won't date a fat woman, so whats the problem? I care about the rise of obesity and the decline of public hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:07 PM
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Isn’t that the whole point of “pump n dump” to deceive? Aren’t they otherwise just fwb? Right. So. Again. I've already written about this extensively in other comments. - https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/196t8rm/comment/khw79bb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 The main issue is that things can be 'perceived' a certain way despite intention either way. Many men, certainly want sex, may still keep the possibility open for a real relationship. It sometimes might depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:33 AM
1

The difference is the intent. Right. When men do it, there's always deceit involved and clear intention. When women do it, there's always good or unclear intention. I already addressed all of this in a different comment. You can find it if you look for it on here. While for serial monogamy, I’m pretty sure in most cases, there was an intent for the relationship to be longer. OP specifically talks about this. You can read the post again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:07 AM
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some women don’t go into relationships for resources if they have their own. Never anywhere did I say anything about women going into relationships for resources (whether women are doing this or not does not have any bearing on the point I made). It's a subject change but it's the same equivocating that always happens and needs to stop. Women will say it matters and then it doesn't matter whenever it suits them. Bottom line, I did not make the entire issue about resources - there are many forms …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:43 AM
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Also if you're too nice as previously explained at length.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:21 AM
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I feel like It sounds like you have feelings about it and that you may be projecting those or some other emotionality onto me as commenter who is basically, without any emotions about it, being very thorough on a subject which is my right as a commenter. But it’s clear that this is not the same as having a months or years long relationship with someone Which is WAY more devastating to men who have spent months or years investing in a relationship, personally, professionally, emotionally, and fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:17 AM
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If someone is 'trash and fat' then they're trash and fat. I don't understand why we have to do double backflips to protect the feelings of people who in all honesty could easily do better with just a little effort. I've already experienced this with women my entire life. You try to be nice and nudge them in the direction of correcting something. They simply experience that you're being kind to them, and they fail to register the actual message - which is, anything - stop being fat, for example, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:00 AM
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A lot of the time, serial monogamists mean to have their relationships last forever and would prefer it. Pump and dump, there’s never that expectation. This is not true to reality. Many 'pump-n-dump' situations, if you're honest at all about it, are budding relationship situations that stopped at sex or stopped early. They can be an early date where sex happens. It becomes a pump-n-dump when it ends early. Just because it became a 'pump-n-dump' doesn't mean that the man fully intended to do that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:22 AM
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Pump-n-dump - men get what they want on their terms. Serial Monogamy - women get what they want on their terms. We are allowed to criticize Pump-n-dump for two reasons. Firstly, it has to do with sex. Secondly, it's a situation where men are getting what they want. Men wanting sex is disgusting. Men getting sexually satisfied is disgusting. Women wanting sex is open minded and liberating. Women getting satisfied sexually is amazing, even to the point of spiritual. Serial Monogamy is not allowed …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:50 PM
2

Status Quo-ism isn't really a philosophy. And I've heard this before from "Blue Pill" people - they claim that "Blue Pill" isn't a philosophy or an ideology. It seems that this changes whenever it's convenient. Secondly, I would then ask - is this really what's 'fine' to people? Relationship wise are things going better or the same as they used to? I would argue not and there's a lot of evidence to support that. Thirdly, I would say that there's a lot to criticize about the status quo. I would a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:52 PM
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What even is “Blue Pill Philosophy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:58 PM
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This alone explains everything and you should make a note of it in your OP. You are speaking on discourse you were not actually around to witness in any meaningful capacity. Yes. I'm speaking on discourse as it stands now, not going back in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:19 AM
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doesn't change the fact that that's how it's used. By people who seek to strawman it. If you think that "Red Pill" is something that "Red Pill" isn't simply because you seek to demonize it, that's fine, that just says more about you than it. It's not a requirement that Trump supporters be racist So are you saying that it's reasonable to assume that everyone who voted for Trump in the last two elections is a racist? Are you saying that every person who seeks to criticize the actions of the Israel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:49 AM
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I don't see that there are any "RP" subs. I feel like those are banned. Bride is always a controlling bitch I've worked in the wedding industry. Brides can definitely be controlling bitches - the mother of the bride can be controlling bitches. The social decorum for this is largely to simply tolerate it even to the point that they're making their own event look bad and abusing friends, family, and staff, etc. It sounds like, based on what you described, these men are criticizing the woman that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:26 AM

This isn't that complicated of a topic. Makeup can enhance your look if you know how to use it tastefully and you don't overdo it in your life. Makeup is something that women get to use that men kind of don't. I'm of the view that a reliance on makeup is unhealthy for your skin, and your look long term. Yes, it can also serve as a cheat to look better in certain contexts. The goal should be to look like a healthy woman with healthy skin - without makeup. This requires that you get up off your la…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:13 AM
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salmon rushdie and padma lakshmi Yes. It only takes becoming one of the top literary figures on the planet. Super easy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:37 AM
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You’re jaded because you’ve been cheated on. There you go. There’s the bias. ^ This is all that needs to be said. This is the ad hominem you led with and stuck by. You've not discussed any of the actual content, you've simply attempted to disqualify my voice as biased. My lived experience is not 'ruled out' as 'biased' because women have done me wrong. I've simply told you facts I've seen in real life. It actually should be considered evidence of real life things that women have done. You’re try…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:05 AM
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Yes. I'm a male who has been cheated on therefore my lived experience is invalid. Brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:41 AM
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You seem to be very keen to women cheating. It sounds like you're projecting keen-ness in a way that you've not substantiated. Pretty keen to project keen-ness I see. It sounds like you're more interested in speaking on how 'keen' I am rather than debating the truth value of the examples I listed. You know that those are things that happen and thus you're not interested in debating them. You'd rather take your chances discussing myself as a person. Whether I'm a good guy or a bad guy - those thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:35 AM
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I don't believe it's nearly as ubiquitous as believe due to your personal experiences. Yea. So. I don't tend to have personal experiences in my life and go out of my way to diminish those experiences or convince myself that the opposite is actually true in greater reality by virtue of the fact that those are my true, lived personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:09 AM
8

Then I guess no one has ever cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:57 AM
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I think there’s a lot more opportunity for women to cheat making it easier. I also have seen in my experience that women will speak of it and think of it as not cheating even when it is ‘we were on a break,’ ‘our relationship was practically over anyways,’ cheating with the new boyfriend before ending the relationship with previous boyfriend. In addition I have seen women attempt to justify it after the fact as not really cheating or ‘it didn’t mean anything,’ when caught. I have then, a step fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:56 AM
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I’ve never cheated and yet I see other people cheating all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:47 AM
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It clearly isn’t a belief system if you know anything about it. It’s not even a ‘position.’ I can see how you could think that from reading your flair because you want it to be so. That would be like saying Blue Pill is a ‘belief system’ but your side would never accept that. Somehow Red Pill is, simply because you don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:55 PM
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By that you mean it literally is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:35 AM
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The red pill is not a belief system. Never has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:15 AM
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It’s interesting that everyone else thinks red pill is a belief system and this is despite the fact that you summarized the Matrix reference yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:24 AM
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I'm a man. I own a nice 2600sqft house in a major city. I do all the cleaning and maintenance inside and outside. I do not hire a maid service or a landscaper. People who visit, love my house, aesthetically, functionally and have never said anything negative about how I keep it. People are generally extremely impressed with what I've accomplished. When I'm busy, things can get out of sorts because I have a basic understanding of priorities in my life. When I know I will have company, I clean the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:23 AM
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No. My experience of simply trying to have organized and empathetic conversations at this sub has over the top confirmed my thoughts based on my personal experiences to the point where it’s way more disappointing and depressing than I ever could have imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:09 PM
3

You basically just proved the guy’s point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:04 PM
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I can, financially, but I can’t afford risking an alliance with a woman who might be able to fuck up my life for any or no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:12 AM
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Omg. I was yesterday literally touched inappropriately without warning by a female doctor. Forget and move on is the only thing I can do. She was a help overall. It’s hard to get appointments for what I need and I don’t want anything bad for her. But the truth is even if I did take action, I’d be laughed out of the room. The whole unit appears to be 99% female, she’s an older Asian lady and I suspect she’s actually quite attractive without her mask on. They could chalk it up to something cultura…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:32 AM
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I'm no longer involving myself in this kind of stuff. But I also think if I were to stand by and people saw me standing by not helping out, other women would shame me for not helping as well. There's really nothing that you're able to do anymore.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 12:29 AM
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If men were just treated better it wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:36 AM

What happens here is people disagree and then call each other names. Calling women names gets you banned. I don't exactly have confirmation that it works the same when men are called names. What I've seen is calling someone a 'misogynist incel' seems to be acceptable. Investigating the user as a person, seems to stick around for a while. Expressing hopelessness altogether is banned. On this sub I see the words 'incel' 'neckbeard' 'misogynist' 'passport bro' quite often. On this sub I don't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:47 PM
2

At least she's honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:19 PM
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Neither are worth very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:57 AM
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The way you've been treated in relationships is the reason passport bros almost exclusively target developing countries in Southeast Asia? Again. Never said this. I said passport bros are clearly driven by race fetishism. Sounds like what I thought you said, and I still stand by the obvious fact that traveling to date does not require the presence of 'race fetishism.' Where are all the criticisms of white women sex touring in Africa? You keep trying to motte and bailey passport bros with people …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:06 PM
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Then pray tell, what abuse are you referring to? The way I've been treated in relationships. That does not eliminate concern for other people. Never said it did. I simply pointed out your claim that all international dating is driven by a 'race fetish.' That is clearly not true. Just stick to things I've actually said and true things, please. I said passport bros are overwhelmingly misogynistic and racist. Ah, so it sounds like they're not all misogynistic then. Don't phrase it as such. Who need…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:12 PM
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Men are expendable, even in a civilized world. We have to completely accept that we will put our lives on the line for them knowing full well they wouldn't do the same for us. And we're not allowed to question or complain about it. It's the negative traits in men that inconvenience women that we must change because those things are 'toxic.' Got it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:51 PM
2

Women not dating men is not abuse. I never said this and there's nothing in my statement that even suggests it. Concern for poor women being exploited by misogynistic dudes with a race fetish is not the same as feeling threatened. You can travel to date and date within the same race. Duh. Women do the same. misogynistic dudes I didn't realize that traveling to date someone makes a man inherently misogynistic. I wonder if it works the other way around when women travel to find love?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:46 PM
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Yea. I don’t know, people. We can criticize people who get passports, and people who go their own way. I’m fine with being a ‘just don’t want to be abused by western women anymore bro’ because the ‘bro’ epithet has to be added since I’m a man doing something that western women feel threatened by.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:49 AM
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nepotism Yea. Okay. Lots of work or not, they slingin for free currently was the point. They're the only ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:23 AM
2

Any elite man with fame really.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:14 AM
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Yea. Think higher. There's a certain level of man who can have a dad bod and doesn't need to lift a finger to have supermodels fighting for his attention. I'm not naming any names but I think we know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:11 AM
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Id just ask what to you do for work because I actually want to know I won't disagree with this notion inherently. Although I will say there are many different types of people in the world and some people prefer to leave their work at work even if they're not a 'victim.' But if you're a guy who's been on any amount of first dates you can start to piece together particular lines of questioning that appear to be clearly about certain things, and certain things only really. yes but I think they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:09 AM

Same. I’ll add to that I was cat-called by what turned out to be my ex ironically doing so in a car full of her toxic friends with the intention of being outwardly mean to me in public - for context, our relationship ended because she cheated on me for a while and left me for one of my friends at the time. Edit: and to be clear. I’m a heterosexual man and I was cat called by women in a way that appeared 100% totally socially acceptable. My crime: being cheated on and left and out for a run.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:49 AM
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The only reason it’s not 100% in one way or another is the guys at the top that women jump on to fuck for free. Every other man pays in some way, usually at a pretty high cost. Also I’ve seen a lot of simple relationship conversations devolve into - well, why don’t you just get a prostitute, then!? Looks like some men are listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:41 AM
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No. I’ve already written on this. You can go read it or not. I don’t give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:14 AM
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I'm saying what I came here to say. And I've already said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:10 AM
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I’m not following you. Are you saying that because some women on Reddit ask about job to determine financials, it must be true that everyone you go on dates with is doing that and only that? I've not said this. It can’t be true that any women ask about someone’s job on a date to find out anything else about them? I've not said this and I've already expanded on this in another comment elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:04 AM
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Why do you think that? Strictly? Ask the other women on here who said exactly the same thing. someone’s job impacts their partner besides financial. I understand that and I already wrote a comment that unpacked this a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:57 PM
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From no options. Sure. Let me choose better. Still at zero. it's my fault. No, not at all! I'm telling you to choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:48 PM
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Women are the selectors. "Just be better at choosing" doesn't apply when you have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:43 PM
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If you only need to be attracted to a woman It appears that you did not read what I said. Get back to me when you scroll up and read.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:40 PM
1

This is happening because you are pursuing a certain "type" of woman Nope. No. Now, the majority of women care about income to some degree Yep. Yep. This is the majority of women as you say who aren't just 'baddies' as you tried to say earlier. what you're describing is brazen as fuck It's most dates for me and I imagine the experience for most guys pretty much. the kind of move only an exceptionally hot woman That's a hilarious. Normal women - hell, even self-proclaimed gold-diggers - aren't go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:36 PM
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Like I said, it could literally be just about anything positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:14 PM
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I am looking for a woman who I am bare minimum attracted to who is able to bring something to a relationship in any way, shape, or form. This is why I don't see "what do you bring to the table?" any better or any worse than the torrent of status/income questions I'm assaulted with on every first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:51 PM
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I’m saying you should find a better way to ask the same question and figure out what answer you’re actually looking for. There are many ways to bring something to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:47 PM
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Your job shows your income and class which are often important to women. That's literally what I just said. I don't see how these questions show 'better manners' or 'increased social awareness' at all. People know what those questions mean. income and class which are often important to women. And it sounds like you're saying that women are allowed to ask questions about what's important to women, but since you don't like the question - "what do you bring to the table?" Men aren't allowed to ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:43 PM
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It can be, if she actually cares and wants to follow me to work or support me with kindness and understanding when my work demands more of my attention than usual. It can also be an indirect way of really asking - how much do you make or where are you on the social ladder? The reason I know this is the other questions, and that there are large groups of right answers as well as large groups of wrong answers. Correct answers: Doctor, Lawyer, Investment Banker, Executive, etc. Incorrect answers: S…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:35 PM
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I'm not going to disagree with your right to have whatever opinion you want for any or no reason. As a man on a date, the first thing I get asked is what my job title is and where I work, then it's - do you rent or own? then it's - what part of town? Then there's other lifestyle questions such as randomly proposing spur of the moment travel ideas and pondering the purchase of a major investment. (All in the first 10 minutes of the first date). Now, this approach, to some people, might be 'well m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:57 PM
1

I’m completely open to provide anyone here photos and details in private if you’re really that interested. The woman in that picture is younger than me but looks older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:32 PM
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Looks like 58.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:08 AM

I understand that. You can look at the other comment I just wrote. She can be into any criteria for any or no reason. That being said, a woman who has failed in a marriage is a significantly bigger red flag than a male virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:38 AM

I’m not saying that you have to be into sexually inexperienced men. Clearly though, failing in a marriage is a much bigger red flag. These things might be connected for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:31 AM

Someone who has decided to marry and failed at marriage is the biggest loser I can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:24 AM
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They don't even care what it really means or is about. They just see it as a threat and try to throw rocks at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:02 AM
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women in third world countries who don’t have the privileges I just listed Looks like you already listed one.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:11 PM
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Misogyny is certainly everywhere when it's socially acceptable to apply that word to any criticism of women individually or collectively. Meanwhile, "misandry doesn't exist." I’m glad you stupid red pill pathetic ass men aren’t getting any women Great argument. Name calling is literally all you have.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 06:37 PM
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They very much want to sweep under the rug that women are still individually and collectively oppressing other women.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 06:31 PM
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Also the concept of inherently hating women.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:02 AM
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#1 is wrong. Dating is very regional. We've heard enough of the token "All my average male friends this or that" in the face of millions of perfectly datable dudes who don't get dates on apps or in real life. #2 is wrong. One only needs to hear what women say they expect and consult the female delusion calculator. I would not include #3 as a part of a conversation about dating. Most men who are dating are trying to date, not go to a sex club or hire a prostitute. This is despite the narrative we…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:41 AM

I think that global behavior patterns clearly show the limitations of self-reported survey data. Global behavior patterns show women claiming authority in the domestic arena whether this has anything to do with reality or not because they’re women. Same for women still being dominant in consumer spending whether it’s their money or not. None of these are controversial. But this is despite the narrative that women paint. My anecdote is all that and the bag of chips that this woman I dated earned …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:17 AM
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It’s a deception even when it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:47 PM

Nah. Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:43 PM
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I've been in relationships with women where I shopped to support my place for years. But her idea was that she needed to shop for my place even if she didn't move in. This one woman I dated made more money than me at the time but had us get a joint card together. I shopped for myself on my own card because I wanted to save the joint account for eating out at nice places. She would go to the grocery store and use the joint account to buy tons of food that I don't eat and that never got eaten ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:41 PM
1

It's not gross for you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:27 AM
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thinks ''Damn, nice ass'', and keeps his thoughts to himself, I know it's very 'thought crime' but let's be honest, that's still pretty gross. Fartbox is a funny word though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:19 AM
1

Well, okay. Why don't women just stop being in them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:17 AM
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So it’s good to see women arguing against that message. I have half a mind to think that some of these same women who argue against the notion that male sexuality is gross in this instance, would, if pressed in another conversation, play the - "how dare you, women aren't just a fleshlight" card.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:16 AM
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when someone doesn't respect other people's boundaries and tries to push them/guilt them into performing things they don't want, or when someone decides to make their sexual desires known to random people on the street (catcalling, for example). Not all men are pushy, boundary-disrespecting shitgibbons, and not all men catcall women on the street, I'd say it's a relatively small (but loud and obnoxious) contingent of men who do these things. I mean, this sounds like a long list of stuff that's g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:09 AM
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