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right, so your experiences = valid while mine aren't. another non-point for you. i present a study by a respected scientist supporting my argument and it's 'rationalization'. your claims apparently need no evidence. another non-point. seriously, who do you think is grasping at straws and rationalizing here? if the study was biased, why haven't you or any peer reviews torn it down yet? it's because you have no ground to stand on. you're dismissed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 11:50 PM
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my experiences, and my male and female friends' experiences don't match yours at all, that's why a scientific study is helpful. a study which you admit you have not even read, and have not even given examples of supposed bias for. this is pretty typical and frankly i'm disappointed. your whole argument is that men and women want vastly different characteristics in a mate, which supports SMV and 'the wall'. i show evidence that this is not the case, invalidating your entire argument and all you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 10:31 PM
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do you have evidence of your claim? dismissing a study as biased out of hand because it doesn't align with your anecdotes doesn't make for a strong case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 09:08 PM
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i don't need to dodge arguments with put-downs because my claim is unsupportable either
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 05:27 PM
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Men do seem to have a bit of a longer shelf life if they take care of themselves. that a person takes care of themselves seems to be the biggest factor in my experience, although i'll admit some people get screwed by genetics. women do tend to gain fat and men muscle more easily, and muscle does have 'a better shelf life' as you say,so i'll admit women have to work a little harder to stay fit but it's doable. There is a way graying temples are seen sexy at men but not at women. There is a way ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 04:21 PM
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RP isn't a philosophy. It isn't telling you what to like or how you should live life. o rly? then what exactly is it besides a thinly veiled excuse to spread hate? the 'self-improvement' aspect is nothing a sensible person with some experience couldn't relate. I can only guess, but I'd bet men would place higher value on earing potential of their partner for sure. Haha. so i guess you are not of my generation. guys my age usually want to be the ones taken care of by a rich beautiful partner, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 02:43 AM
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Just look up the definition of a unicorn or a perfect woman (with femininity, submissiveness, cuteness, follower, etc). i'm honestly fine with this being trp ideal. ideals are only obstacles to reality. The ideal woman would be susceptible to being taken advantage of. but this is some creeper shit right here, you realize that? and you know it's creeper when you can replace 'women' with 'men' and it sounds equally horrible. It doesn't have to be blatant. It's the subtle, plausibly-deniable disres…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 02:24 AM
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Again, what would you describe as an 'ideal woman' besides suceptibility to being taken advantage of? Or is that all a woman needs to be 'ideal'? 'RP' guys are the ones attempting to use negging and dread game to manipulate their date/partner into a power play. I don't care whether they do it successfully or not. I don't care whether other guys view them as 'beta' or 'alpha' or not. it's the ones using predatory and manipulative 'strategy' to get sex. So let's think about dread game and negging.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 01:32 AM
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The ideal woman WILL be taken advantage of by an abusive guy. describe the 'ideal woman', or is that just having a propensity to be taken advantage of? That is also why you need to judge potential mates harshly (shit testing) before going into an LTR with them. i thought TRP was dead set against shit testing? So is the guy who is acting with dark triad traits and disrespecting women. having been with someone willing to treat me like scum, i can't help but see these guys as scum too. it's why i d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 01:02 AM
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No woman is 100% a doormat regardless of what you think. i don't think people are born doormats, they're shaped into them by people/environment. You also say "doormat" which if you took an objective outlook on it, it is probably something else (eg: a guy who is abusive is the one with the problem, not you). oh no doubt, but being a doormat is more than being with an abusive person, it's allowing people in general to walk all over you because you're too afraid to lose whatever you're clinging too…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 12:32 AM
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so you're arguing that someone with low self-esteem and no backbone is sexy? someone who doesn't stand up for themselves is sexy to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 11:37 PM
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the problem is that 'nice guys', as you describe them, are 'pleasant, agreeable, satisfactory'... the first two are valued qualities in any person, so long as that person is also confident in themselves and has backbone and their own life and hobbies. if those traits are dominating their whole personality, if they are too agreeable and never make waves and stand up for themselves...that's a doormat. i think most women want a guy who has the qualities 'pleasant and agreeable', but not if he takes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 09:22 PM
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i specifically said men 45~55 and you're still not getting it: of course men of the above age still marry and date! so do older women! they just rarely date people in their twenties unless they're fabulously wealthy like hugh heffner. seriously, read the study you will understand your argument that men and women want very different things doesn't hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 07:02 PM
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and i think you're missing my point. 'the wall' hits men who 'screwed around' young in a similar way. the fantasy is that men can screw around all they want when they're young and somehow be more attractive to young women later on. that's not what happens, it's a fantasy. i would encourage you to check your adobe is updated and read the study i linked you yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 06:07 PM
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i will post the link when i get home but there is a study by David Buss wherein he ranked characteristics desired by men and women and they were nearly identical. the men didn't even rank physical attractiveness as #1, and it also revealed that the ages of the couples tended to be one of the strongest similarities, especially for young couples. if you can't wait for me to post it in a few hours look thru my posts from last night, and make sure your adobe is updated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 05:15 PM
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dude, the point is that everybody ages. men aren't going to have an easier time getting casual sex at 45 and 55 than they did at 25 either. no one looks young forever, so if you're older and looking for a mate you make up for looks by being kind, charming, generally good company and hopefully wiser. the part of 'the wall' that is fantasy is that this only happens to women and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 04:03 PM
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this is what i have observed: in regards to 'the wall' in RPT, it is only used while in reference to women is based on a woman's physical attractiveness and 'feminine behavior', her 'SMV' as you say, which excludes intellect and other traits 'useful to society' and that as they age, women inherently lose SMV while men acquire it simple, right? all a guy has to do is acquire loot and young hotties will fling themselves at him! :D but no This link is to an article by David Buss on the study of wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 01:16 AM
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the reality is that physically attractive women have the greatest chance of catching the attention of an attractive man. no one is denying that, and it's the same for women. my argument is that women do not lose their inherent value as they age, unless you think the only value a woman has is her looks. This is not the premise of the wall. We are talking about attraction, or value in terms of the sexual market. Physical beauty is key to male attraction, usually followed by feminine behavior. you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 11:27 PM
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is an old guy, even a rich one, ever going to get the same sexual attention as a young, hot guy? never, so why would you even bother with comparing youthful and mature 'hotness' in women? for either sex, age takes it's toll and that's life. my argument is that women do not lose their inherent value as they age, unless you think the only value a woman has is her looks. a smart man or woman will enjoy their youthful looks, but not derive their total value from them. they don't deserve to be shat o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 10:36 PM
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straw man, none of those are things i said. everybody ages, and depending on your genes and how well you care for yourself affects how well you are preserved in old age. TRP concept of "the wall" is that only women have expiration dates on their "value", and aging, having children or having many lovers seems to attribute to this "equation". it's a revenge fantasy for guys who aren't getting as much sexual attention as they'd like when they're young. it must be satisfying to imagine all the peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 09:33 PM
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no one has to disprove your claims, that's a logical fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 09:02 PM
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undeniable, she so flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 08:04 PM
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your genes and taking care of your health play a huge role too. some people born the same year can look a decade or more apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 07:26 PM
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it's a fantasy like "the wall", far as i can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 06:23 PM
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oh yea, me too! ...o.o
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 08:11 PM
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well of course, compatibility on a range of subjects is major. some people just need to find their niche in terms of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 09:41 PM
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serial monogamy is a woman's strategy. "Spinning plates" - i.e. polygamy - is men's strategy. mmmm i don't think that's the whole truth. back in pre-history it worked something like this: women give birth and are physically unprepared to handle a fistfight during pregnancy. that's why it's smart to mate with a guy who is both strong enough to fight off threats, intelligent enough to find and bring her resources while indisposed, and gentle enough to be a good father, thus making their offspring …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 08:54 PM
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I guess I would have to ask then, why is female hypergamy worse than male hypergamy in TRP? why is it wrong for a woman to explore her sexuality with casual flings before settling down? these aren't really directed at you since i'm not sure how you see this, more to TRP where this seems to be common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 04:33 PM
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as someone who has always been attracted to brainy guys, this line of reasoning is leaving me feeling a bit overlooked. but seriously, people tend to be most compatible with others whom they share similar traits and interests. maybe there aren't as many women clawing each other over physicists because that's not their interest. it certainly helps to be about as smart as whoever you're chasing too. i'll bet you there are some little-known scientists who get nerdy girls hot and bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 04:14 PM
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You must be new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 04:04 PM
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Partially a consequence of the upward marital social mobility that women have. She might not be as privileged as her male counterpart, but it was far more common for her to have married upwards (into greater wealth and power). That should contribute to the power discrepancy you're talking about. what are you talking about. marriage was a business deal, men didn't 'marry down' socially unless the woman had something to offer like wealth or land. men who had wealth but no social standing also 'mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 02:33 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights Although males seem to have dominated in many ancient cultures, there are some exceptions. For instance in the Nigerian Aka culture women may hunt, even on their own, and often control distribution of resources. So there it is, on the women's rights page of wikipedia. But it's not all bad, those Nigerian ladies get to hunt at least. The status of women in China was low, largely due to the custom of foot binding. The status of women in ancient Greece …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 02:17 AM
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men throughout history weren't expected to be faithful husbands Were most men even husbands? and many cultures allowed extra wives and sexual freedom for men. While it might suck to be one of many "extra wives", let's not claim that it was soo much worse to be living in luxury vs living as one of those impoverished or enslaved men who didn't have the option to marry. many women were also impoverished beyond marriageability and slaves as well. married women were also used as slaves of sorts: they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 02:00 AM
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I suppose we should all take your word for it, and that the burden of proof is on me to provide "counter evidence" for your non-existent evidence. you're right i was being lazy. when i'm off my mobile i'll throw up some links. as for the other part you quoted i was specifically referring to the modest way of living, not heirs, sorry that was unclear. as for the heirs... i'm not seeing how not having children = unhappy. again, i'm on mobile so i'll check that study when i'm home. i've go a few qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 09:36 PM
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You're the one making bold claims like, *"we could travel to almost any time or place in history and men would have more freedom and power than women." no i'm pretty sure that's true but i welcome any counter evidence you can find. in many times or places in history we visited, we'd find that the average guy lived a fairly modest, powerless existence and then dying without siring an heir. sure and most women as well. but depending on your social standing a man did have more freedom and opportuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:49 PM
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personal risk? almost everything pre-modern era was risky, but regardless you are ignoring the personal risk involving childbirth. many, many women have died due to complications in birth. women weren't allowed to take as risky options as men could either, such as war or trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:42 PM
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i'll take a look at this when i'm not on my mobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:37 PM
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you are the one who moved the goalposts, my friend. when the user above me pointed out that men suppress women in S. Arabia, you then said it was some, not all men. i just pointed out that it was an incorrect assumption. 99% of recorded history men had more access to sex, education, opportunity and power. men throughout history weren't expected to be faithful husbands, and many cultures allowed extra wives and sexual freedom for men. women were often executed for the same. men from prosperous fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:36 PM
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do you think women aren't being killed and exploited for labor? you need to read up on your history. you realize women are also castrated? look up FGM if you have a strong stomach. these women are castrated for no reason other than cultural pressure, and most FGM victims can never enjoy sex… and its excruciating for them. many are mutilated without proper anesthetic or painkillers. many do not survive. i can agree that MGM is also an issue since there have been far too many botched circumcisions…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 07:27 PM
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we could travel to almost any time or place in history and men would have more freedom and power than women. even in the present day they still do in a lot of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 05:47 PM
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thought that was if there was a gender discrepancy in 1~2? didn't think i was advocating any gender discrepancy. Edit: to clarify, if a man put his career on hold for his partner's sake or to raise their children, i think he'd be deserving of some financial support too in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 05:34 PM
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as often as both he and his partner are in the mood. a wise person will gauge their partner's sex drive beforehand. if a woman put a hold on her plans for life and career for her partner's sake or to raise children for them then yes. if there are no kids, she didn't want or take the opportunity to have a career on her own, then no. absolutely not paying me with dinner instead of cash for sex would still be a form of prostitution anyway so why not just go straight to a prostitute? a guy can buy m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 05:18 PM
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this whole comment chain is so going to get deleted, but it was fucking hilarious. obvious troll /u/typicalbrah is being too obvious for PPD lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:25 AM
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thanks for the sauce, but after reading this and seeing why women have become less happy: …women's movement into the paid labor force was not accompanied by a shift away from household production and that they were now working a "second shift". and we can add childcare to that too so... looks like women are taking on work both in and out of the home and men are not so much. i'd be more stressed than my partner too if i was working and doing most of the housework and childcare. so i guess to op's…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 11:53 PM
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＞women's happiness and life satisfaction levels have declined since the 1970's in absolute terms and relative to men. source?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 05:36 PM
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i was on OKC at 18 and got about 5~10 messages a week tops. most were from married couples or swingers looking for a third, or they just said 'hi' or 'what's up'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 07:42 PM
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trp is certainly making guys angry, it's a matter of perspective as to whether or not that anger is useful or justified. it does seem like trp advocates going for a certain type of girl - one who is susceptible to negging and dread game and likely has low self esteem, or place their value on their looks... i would be absolutely miserable hanging out with someone like that, so it wouldn't surprise me if guys using rpt also came out more jaded and miserable than before. unless you're already kinda…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 03:54 PM
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now i understand why you say the things you say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 11:32 PM
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they literally just said what they were referring to. you quoted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 07:23 PM
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lol yes it is hope this article was posted in jest and not seriously, but with that poster it's hard to tell
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 04:06 PM
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this reads like an onion article
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 07:14 PM
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to be fair, obama was pretty comfortably set too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 08:59 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 08:58 PM
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Who is bestowing "social status" on slutty men? Who is calling these slutty men "studs?" other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:47 PM
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mmm no its more like rich white men have the resources and connections to run and fund a nationally recognized campaign compared to non rich non white non men people. and they have these advantages because of a long history of exploitation of non rich white men （everybody else）. in case you are going to bring up a notable example of someone like bill gates... the reason he is such a notable example of a non rich person becoming rich is because it rarely happens. and being white and male probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 06:36 PM
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if you dare, check out /r/deadbedrooms... those folks may have the answers you seek...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 09:29 PM
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if you dare, check out /r/deadbedrooms... those folks may have the answers you seek...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 09:28 PM
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there are gamers who are girls and there are the internet famous girls who make money off people willing to watch them play and use gamer lingo. the former are average players, the latter are some sort of gamer fetish. they may also be gamers, but once you start marketing it with over the top sexualization you're fetishizing it imo. personally i don't mind them, i just don't like people telling me i'm not a real gamer cause some other chick stuck her tits out for a webcam raid to pay for college…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 09:18 PM
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well, it's been almost ten years since the start of my tragic mmo addiction. since then women have been a lot more common online but it still seems to be dudes playing mostly. my best friends are usually female, but the majority of my friends are male. i'd attribute that to my interests than anything else. back when i was into anime i had a lot more female friends but that kinda died off in college. i'd say i get along with anyone who can think openly and intelligently. tend to clash hard with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/14 04:25 PM
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don't get all upset, i was responding to your assertion that no one on trp felt they deserved sex. i pointed out instances where that was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 09:36 PM
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women being shallow sluts So that's what TRP and PUA are about then : when we give you reality you walk all over us but when we play you like a game you suck our dicks, so you're getting what you deserve. So is this what bluepillers are really trying to do? Protecting men from the very bitter, if not downright despairing realization that women are so shallow, so easy that none of them can be trusted not to fall for the first jerk who knows how to pull them ? So you're protecting baby boy from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 08:06 PM
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if you are just trying to get laid and not going into creepy rape territory, fine. it's not illegal to be an asshole. but you are aware that the sort of tactics employed by trp attracts a certain type of person, yes? namely, low self esteem individuals. and btw these tactics would work on a low self esteem man too. i'm not looking down on you because you want to get laid, i'm looking down on you because you purposely search for these individuals, use and denigrate them for your amusement, and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 10:49 PM
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mmm i'd have to disagree. i've seen plenty of posts along the vein of "my ltr didn't give me vacation sex, hard next?" and "if she doesn't want to sex i'll spank her, if she calls the cops i'll beat her til they arrive"... many rp dudes seem to feel very entitled to sex, and get angry that they have to work to attract a quality mate. guess what most people do. we're no longer barbarians who hand over our unwilling children to be mated for a business deal, sorry. maybe this isn't you but it's all…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:29 PM
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dude, i appreciate you posting actual points, but this whole long ass post makes you sound defensive. you have to understand that there is no one out there, man woman or inbetween, who deserves sex. not me or you or anyone. you also have to understand that there are as many women as men out there not getting any. i hate to be anecdotal but i can think of many lovely women i've known over the years who've been extremely unlucky in romance. it's not any easier on them than it is on the men i've kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:38 PM
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that's called 'learned helplessness' the good news is its unlearnable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 03:12 AM
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and to be honest, i think its pretty insulting to compare racial prejudice and discrimination （true hatred and ignorance）to you not being able to get laid. when you get lynched for applying to eharmony, let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 10:24 PM
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i have seen and experienced intense attraction to guys who might be rated a 4 or 5. they were chubby, had acne, had torn, old clothes, but never, ever without a girlfriend. honestly if i were just looking for a fuck i might not have noticed them. but god damn were they charming. always had a great joke, always confident and having fun. they didn't put people down, they brought people up, made them feel good about themselves. i've also seen this work for women of the same type. these sorts of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 10:05 PM
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if you're out of shape... work out. if you have a bad wardrobe... buy some new duds if you have a low-paying job and want to attract materialistic mates, find a better job （although this sounds super lonely, who wants a gold digger） if you have social anxiety, i feel for you, but you have to learn to either live with it or live alone. work on building confidence anyway you can. if none of these things are an issue, pay attention to how you conduct yourself in social settings. women don't always …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:57 PM
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wait... so they want both casual sex with many women and for women to go back to the casual sex-fearing days? am i missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:45 PM
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what do you mean by the blue pill way? what were you doing before that didn't work, and what are you doing now that does? did you change anything about your overall appearance? pls answer for science
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:38 PM
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is there someone whose judgment you would trust enough to ask for some honest feedback? you might be doing something you don't realize you're doing. or you're too worried, stressed over it - people can sense that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:34 PM
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also, i hope it's not necessary to say this but if you're rejected don't take it personally or make a big deal out of it. other women may be watching and no one wants to bone a dude who gets all angry and hysterical over rejection. just keep cool and move on. :D source : been in clubs, seen what successful people do regardless of level of facial symmetry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 07:34 PM
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mmm i see, sorry it was implied that you are also being fun, conversational, confident, attentive of cues, well put together, etc. also not that difficult imo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 07:28 PM
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if you keep striking out with all kinds of women the problem might be you. shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 06:37 PM
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if you just want to get laid why not go to a club or something. i'm under the impression most people there are looking for some quick fun, how hard can it be if you take care of your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 04:23 PM
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