Mr. Right vs. Mr. Right Now

MissPearl · 2014-04-16T23:00:10+00:00

I try to stick to a policy of never taking haploid genetic information from men unless I deem being tied to them for the rest of my life would not be a complete disaster- accidents happen and abortion access may turn out to be less available than you predicted.

purplepill2 · 2014-04-16T23:41:28+00:00

Uh, maybe I have different search results than you because of location and shit (my top result is canadianliving, probably not going to show up for americans). A quick look shows this.

Search Result #1: How to tell if he's not planning to stay with you long term.

Search Result #2: Don't dwell on relationships that could have been, or pass up great guys for some ideal of finding "the one".

Search Result #3: Percentages of women that have casual sex, regret it, think it's worth it, and how many get attached after a one night stand.

Search Result #4: You won't find Mr.Right if you're wasting time on the guy that TRP would consider alpha.

Search Result #5: You'll probably date a bunch of guys that don't meet your needs before you find the one you'll be with forever.

So what are you talking about, exactly? Because I can't find examples of this analysis of "standards" for these men or even a solid claim that "Mr.Right Now" means what you say it means.

SpaceWhiskey · 2014-04-17T02:29:23+00:00

I think both men and women (of all sexual orientations) will draw a proverbial line in the sand between "I wanna fuck you" and "I wanna marry you". This is absoultely a thing that exists, but it's not some woman-only thing. It is literally the exact same thing as TRP's "sluts are great for fucking but not commitment gotta get a high SMV gal" attitude with the genders reversed. So yes, if a man draws a line between Maddonas and Whores, it is the same when women do the equivalent. That's what I don't understand, though. If RP guys are cool with spinning plates, why is female "hypergamy" a big deal?

alifib2 · 2014-04-17T00:54:17+00:00

How is this very common sentiment very different than the way TRP talk about sluts vs. virgins and spinning plates vs. settling down?

You mean besides the shaming and judgment inherent in the way RP talks about it?

The woman doesn't think Mr. Right Now is doing anything wrong, it's just some fun.

A lot of guys on Redpill seem to hate "sluts" while at the same time doing everything in their power to get them to pay attention.

jacks1000 · 2014-04-16T22:30:07+00:00

As an aside, one of my favorite movies is Carnal Knowledge, where Candace Bergen chooses Jack Nicholson as Mr. Right Now and chooses Art Garfunkel as Mr. Right.

It's from 1972, and illustrates what manosphere types call "alpha fucks and beta bucks" long before the internet and PUA even existed.

Great acting, great cast, great script. I highly recommend it.

goatismycopilot · 2014-04-16T23:54:27+00:00

I guess for my own life I don't see it as either or because there is probably quite a bit of variation depending on stage of life. I never bothered dating guys who were the stereotypical "bad" guys ( heavy partying/unreliable/high drama/messy personal life) because they weren't appealing short term or long term. What counts as a "nice guy" might be quite different from person to person.

Villaintine · 2014-04-17T08:30:32+00:00

Once again it comes down to the language and tone that TRP uses. It's been said previously in other threads that TRP concepts aren't really as offensive as the harsh language they are communicated in.

[deleted] · 2014-04-18T16:15:09+00:00

Nope. Not the same in the least.

Mr. Right Now is not derogatory.

Slut is derogatory.

Plus, there is not an attitude, in general of disdaining those that do one night stands. With RPs, at best, they disdain and don't respect the women they have one night stands with. Often they downright hate them.

And the whole double standard BS in that it's "ok" for the guy to sleep around, but not the girl. Nothing like that with Mr Right Now.

Prime example of false equivalency.

RP is sexist and sometimes misogynist.

Totally_not_a_shill · 2014-04-17T02:35:09+00:00

In general I don't think there is an issue with having different criteria depending on what kind of relationship you are looking for.

I think TRP gets into trouble for two reasons. The first is focussing too heavily on a womans "number". Not to say it shouldn't matter, but everything should be taken into context and there are a whole lot of other attributes that should matter more. You guys focus on it to the point where it becomes slut shaming and you look like old timey sexist assholes to everyone.

The second reason is the hypocrisy in saying that a girls "number" is the best (or one of) ways to tell if a girl is suitable for a LTR, while at the same time promoting the idea of guys sleeping with as many girls as possible, and assuming that a guy is still suitable for a relationship despite a high number. That also makes people pretty annoyed at you guys.

slothsie · 2014-04-17T04:33:44+00:00

None of that is nearly as demeaning as trper's way of putting it in terms of women. Like, while reading the Oprah article, did you feel like a worthless piece of shit that was reduced to your sex organs all because while during your search for "the one" you still wanted to engage in casual sex?

Seriously, it's a realistic way to look at dating and relationships, TRP just takes it to whole other level.

Title	Mr. Right vs. Mr. Right Now
Author	jacks1000
Upvotes	2
Comments	39
Date	April 16, 2014 10:22 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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