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i don't want sex. i want a woman to want to fuck me and stick around after for bullshitting and cuddles
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:37 AM
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generalize to everyone: you get a lot more slack for everything if you're hot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:21 AM
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have seen an overweight woman order up men like takeout, so no, it's not the same thing at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:49 PM
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some do. the ones who want a spooky library and some tea don't show up at raves too much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:48 PM
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who's looking for chaste? this more reads like "if you were actually attracted to me, you'd be making excuses to get me in bed, not to keep me out"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:51 PM
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different, but if you can't see it, there's no hope
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:36 PM
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nope. all you do is state a position, but never actually support it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:35 PM
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no, it's different when i do it. i'm pointing to things we can verify in order to support my point. i can also reference norah vincent, but there's some disagreement over whether women injecting T is the same experience that men get.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:31 PM
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Again, the lack of gender diversity in teachers is NOT because schools are refusing to hire men, it's because there are no men to hire. and men don't go into education due to bias and low salary. it's like the CS discussion in reverse, except that with that, it at least appears to be preference based
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:28 PM
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no, not how it works. claiming something just because it's fashionable doesn't make it true. and really, it lines up with reality pretty well that men are hornier: more sex in the gay scene, much less in the lesbian scene, but more violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:25 PM
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with something? all you did was reassert the original thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 08:12 PM
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men leave teaching because it's dangerous not to. it's that simple - in primary education, you're viewed as a predator for having that sort of ambition any more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:06 AM
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i would go with the first one; hot and fat tend not to go together. the other stuff - over 60? or maybe 45? not sure. the race thing is just some weird victim seeking stuff i don't want to touch. imagine not thinking that rosario dawson is absurdly hot...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 09:45 AM
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what are you even doing? this is a debate sub, you have to actually support that sort of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 09:33 AM
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not really, i've heard the jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:46 AM
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I think you're working with old information, i think you don't understand how weak our information even is. at least your link expands on the notion that there's a portion of accusations that are likely not crimes without being false. The people altering protocol know far more than you or I do about how best to update practices while still getting the information they need. we'll have to see how this develops. the whole area is a bit of a mess and highly politicized. I don't know why you think i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:57 AM
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any account of a title 9 case. typically, they're unbalanced in how they treat accuser/accused, cross examination, evidentiary standards are nil, precedence isn't a thing, transparency is minimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:53 AM
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It's also not my job to hold your hand and dilineate a complete "how to not be a bastard cop" dissertation. it actually is. it's your job to make a case that this isn't going to be some sort of collaborative exercise in creating a narrative and instead also maintain evidence that is remotely reliable. that's the flip side: memory is malleable, and if you do things wrong, all you get is ways to ignore people who can't maintain a lie in the effort to get the people who are still rattled. The rare …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:37 AM
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which they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:31 AM
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You don't actually know that. Having a lower standard than the justice system doesn't mean having NO standard. yes i do. it becomes apparent when you see who runs these things and how they run them. their state of practice is about what you'd expect from people who have no fucking idea. But there are usually codes of conduct that can get students expelled for far less serious issues than rape. but they aren't demonstrated to have done anything. that's the point: no reliable process = no real way…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:31 AM
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yeah, but that's a personal problem. you're free to have whatever standards you like, and deal with the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:58 PM
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yeah, they've decided that sandrah oh is justthe high side of fugly. wat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:16 AM
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having been hit on by agay guy, i'm failing to see your point. it's really just flattering
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:12 AM
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not the point. you're kicking someone out based on a shoddy process run by the incompetent, saddling the person with 100k in debt and no real way to get into another college. the point here is that it's setting the person up for failure and is damn near arbitrary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:04 PM
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the penalty for not holding the hearings and using a preponderance of evidence standard
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:02 PM
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no, i want to hear what specific training you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:01 PM
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Well that's not my job, so provide a link. i'm not going to take your word for it, given how much BS is floating around Do they? That seems rare. it's called a bail hearing and conditions of release
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:15 PM
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I just considered a reason that the school may have ruled the way it did the way you say it makes it sound like the likely reason instead of something barely possible Threat of death? What are you talking about? the penalty is removing all federal funding, which means the college shuts down
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:13 PM
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it is based on nothing at all, as they don't follow process, bother with precedent, or allow anything like a fair trial. can't question the complainant? can't have a lawyer, have your evidence dismissed out of hand? rule in favor of whoever complains first? yup. again this isn't court and no one goes to jail based on a college ruling. you say this like it means something. the consequences are that you can get booted out of college with 6 figures of debt and no way to get into another college (be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:03 PM
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They may be in denial or simply afraid of retaliation or stigma. no, they most likely were annoyed at being harassed by the third party. you're clearly reaching for a narrative instead of considering that this can easily be someone uninvolved misinterpreting things first transfer to another school should be considered ok and sealed if the preponderance of evidence was low. this is BS. colleges have deadlines, and no obligation to take transfers. abrupt mid term transfers are unusual and will lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:57 PM
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If the victim is unable/unwilling to proceed for their own mental health, what's the solution? that's a question for you. if they're so terrible, what's the better alternative? Inconsistent timelines/memories were seen as proof of false accusations even though that's a common response to trauma. of course, allowing convictions when the timeline is 3 different conflicting narratives is bad too. how do you suss out the changes from trauma and the changes from people lying and doubling down? If it …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:48 PM
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not really, no. their basic notion is of leader/follower, with context being important. beyond that, the general idea of not getting your value from whether a woman likes you is healthy and also attractive to women (you have some sort of mission and demonstrate that you work towards it). fat, skinny, short - you gotta have something going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:20 PM
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No, I do not, I find Redpill to be a very nihilistic and pessimistic belief system. that's the bad taste in your mouth. distinct from being wrong. Not every woman is as shallow as TRP makes them out to be. only about half. before you brand me misogynist, ask me what i think about men. I merely pointed out that they have some beliefs I agree with. it's not really a belief system. more of a model that predicts outcomes. so, if they've got a decent chunk of it right, congratulations, i'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:07 AM
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i usually cast it like this: these people are told that being forward and a bit up front about your interest is something only assholes do. it's something they get in their formative years, so the mold of 'asshole' is set and unlikely to change. put on their shoes and they're right, because (only) assholes are forward, a bit sexual, and not afraid to ask for what they want, or talk to someone else if she's not game. those traits are fairly attractive to women, assuming that you're not uggo, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:05 AM
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hence why i'm more attractive when i'm drunk. the brain isn't there second guessing me and i am obtusely successful at it, which has obvious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:01 AM
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let's also do some studies around the whole 7 year itch/fuck the poolboy thing. we may find that a decent number of them would still be doing the same old tricks if only they could
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:59 AM
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it sounds like you do agree, and you don't like the way it tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:58 AM
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careful, erin pizzey said that and look what happened to her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:50 AM
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upthread.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:16 AM
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you can't pay a woman to be attracted to you, come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:58 AM
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so you're saying that alpha and beta are things, but they're more like aspects of our being. just like the terpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:56 AM
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it seems that I’m a catch among the obese unemployed college dropout crowd. ooh, sign me up for being a meal ticket for someone who isn't even really into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:55 AM
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or are they penalized for attempting to stay in the family? you can thank welfare for part of this, assuming that a man in the house = someone being lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:48 AM
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I'm not trying to say that a household with two parents isn't ideal for a child. then i will: it's far better than a single mother raising a kid. Like single mothers are the parents that decided to stay to take responsibility and raise their child. they don't often have much choice in the matter. it's that or put the kid up for foster care. so, why would anyone resent them? single mothers didn't do anything to you, i'm just not inclined to play surrogate dad and be number 3 in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:47 AM
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yes. 9:1 is even generous - that's why so many OLD places employ fake accounts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:43 AM
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it's possible, but he doesn't show any obvious signs and no clear indicators that it's anything other than him starting early.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:46 PM
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no, killing all men so that the women would have no choice but to line up for him. boy was a total headcase
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:36 PM
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friend of mine started at 10, but i assume with other 10 year olds, not actual adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:35 PM
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no, it means she lacks the legal capacity to consent. it doesn't relate to her physical ability. People are very capable of consenting while drinking alcohol but in order to not blur the lines/ make things complicated our standard for that is pretty extreme - you'd have to be absolutely blitzed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:34 PM
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However, if these men have tons of women available, the usual idea would be they're too apathetic to care because they can just go to the next woman. If a man has abundance, he won't care about one girl. But the real world seems to contradict this. i view this as a question of entitlement. if you feel entitled to interest, or build your ego on your ability to fuck, getting rejected strikes at your core. if you actually have a mindset around abundance and don't build your identity on how well/poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:26 PM
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not from anything i've heard. the whole 'unstable lifestyle bad boy getting laid left and right' is a trope - he's exciting and appealing, but hasn't got shit for money. that's the thing: be exciting, attractive, and forward and a lot of people will be into you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:20 PM
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no, women have different problems because most of them are passive about it. being active gives you 'chooser' problems, and i encourage women to try both and see which they prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:16 PM
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stupid people crime. i'm stealing this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 04:02 AM
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How do you "refute" that? you demonstrate that feminism has helped someone. preferably in the past 40 years to avoid claims of 'classic feminism' vs modern.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 03:50 AM
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not to denigrate the women of bletchley pak, but if you're going to say things like that, understand what the roles were. they were hired for a specific job - it looks to be mostly clerical.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/11/20 03:31 AM
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yep, there's plenty of other discussion about the hazards of sharing the rich guy in here. further, now you've got a sizable population of men with no prospects. that's dangerous too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:55 AM
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that implies that all/most men are rich or top tier. this is by definition not possible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 01:48 AM
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If women are all married to a rich top-tier guy that's by definition impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 01:07 AM
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i'll take that as no, you don't have anything better. each woman is different, but you can take a group of them and see what common themes pop out. like PH did. you don't really have an argument here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:39 PM
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aka class based discrimination. that keeps popping up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:19 PM
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do you have anything actually better? at least PH tells us what women actually seek out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:16 PM
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so this how you deal with the reality that a lot of people won't tolerate that sort of thing, even when it's not relevant to the job. then you act like you're oppressed to the same degree as black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:11 PM
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I remember it was hermione. For other people, not her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:40 AM
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i know where my money is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:23 AM
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Think of all the guys now talking about big buts and slim-thick and that shit. that's more tiny waist and a big butt, ala mixalot. it's nothing new, and the HAES crowd starts around 250lb
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:21 AM
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There is the angry misogynist incel argument that women should just pair up which is usually repugnant, but this isn't what most men feel who espouse a form of this. i think the argument is that: social mores pushing mono relationships and shaming single people results in far more men with spouses large numbers of single men with no options generally precedes violent revolution
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:19 AM
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oh hell yeah. people think think you can make a dad bod sexy, as if cultivation theory says anything like that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:15 AM
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he looks like a goddamn hapsburg
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:12 AM
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Maybe if we changed commonly consumed media to have dadbod men in sexually highlighted positions, it would be easier for more women to find them attractive. that doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:11 AM
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so, a sacrifice to some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:04 AM
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culture has less influence on that than you may think
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:02 AM
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If you flipped the genders on this, would it still be acceptable to tell average men to settle for average women? no, it just sounds prosaic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:29 PM
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i was thinking more of jewish thought, where both men and women are expected to attend to the needs of the other
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 05:16 PM
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it's not actually as good a reason. it's still a reason, but nixing it because you're in a mood isn't as good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:27 AM
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it's bad because you're doing it just to lash out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:09 AM
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anniston can spend my entire salary on maintaining her body and not feel it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:06 AM
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sex communism? what's that got to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 01:04 AM
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uh huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 10:59 PM
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it's saying "I don't want to hear your bitching"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:38 PM
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well, no, you can't. you could go for negligence, but not murder. no intent to kill. again, learn to do it properly and it's safe-ish
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:38 PM
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You are talking about strangulation. nope. arterial choke, applied lightly. Men don't know what they are doing and don't care. i do know what i'm doing, and i do it when the women request it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:33 PM
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it's not a dictate, it's a rebuke - you're unhappy about RP, fine. got anything better? if not, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:32 PM
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it was written as SCUM; the acronym was on a draft, but not in published versions. feminism - unclear Ti-Grace Atkinson, the New York chapter president of the National Organization for Women (NOW), described Solanas as "the first outstanding champion of women's rights"[65] and "a 'heroine' of the feminist movement,"[66][67] and "smuggled [her manifesto] ... out of the mental hospital where Solanas was confined."[66][67] According to Betty Friedan, the NOW board rejected Atkinson.[67] Atkinson le…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:32 PM
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i'm not talking about strangulation, that involves the throat. you really shouldn't talk about things you don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:06 PM
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Feminist women like Valerie Solanas (S.C.U.M. Manifesto) it's SCUM, no dots, and when was she ever a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:03 PM
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all of them? you can't change women anyway, only yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:52 PM
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you put pressure on the sides, over the carotid. don't touch the throat. use just a bit of pressure, and pull down a bit. there, you've given her a pleasurable sensation without danger
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:51 PM
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okay, the problem is that it isn't nonsense, so you can't really reject it without offering a better option. people aren't going to walk away because you're upset
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:49 PM
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well, it kinda is. either point to something better or stop complaining. complaining about a thing other people use to some success is kinda pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:45 PM
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it's the core of the argument? give you a demo of abiogenesis that is repeatable and it's no longer really a debate on if, just the mechanisms involved
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:44 PM
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murder a woman with light pressure to the neck in the exact place she put my hands. right... you know this literally describes consent culture, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:42 PM
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for dating/getting laid. that's the thing we're discussing. Do these opinions stand the test or are they things that have been tried before?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:41 PM
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Women offer alternative opinions here. Men either ignore or dismissed them. are they known to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:37 PM
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Considering that TRP treats women as an expendable resource that can be “gamed,” of course most women are going to refute it. expendable resource is another way to say "don't get too attached to someone, there's more of them all over". the alternative is getting overly invested in one or two women, and that tends to scare people. very few women refute this, they just don't like the implication. Everyone is different; I personally can’t imagine being with someone I’d have to “game” they aren't ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:36 PM
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gotta love this. "i think it's wrong and will bitch about it endlessly, but god forbid i work towards something better"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:31 PM
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porn has men thinking it’s sexy and women want it. women do want it. gotta do it right, though - light pressure just to provide a sensation. and before you grouse at me, the ones who want it will often put your hands on their throat themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:29 PM
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TRP encourages you to fundamentally change your lifestyle lift have a mission stop pandering to women so terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:28 PM
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I haven't heard any kind of in depth explanation of how abiogenesis would work from laypeople. recreate rough equivalent of early earth in a sealed environment, see proteins form almost immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:22 PM
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I don't need to offer some broad theoretical framework to replace RP just because I think RP is shit. this is predictable. nobody is telling you to do that, they're asking why basically nobody does a better job. presumably, you want people to not use it, but it works. are you going to tell someone to stop doing the things that bring success after years of no luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:21 PM
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I see pretty blatant misogyny in the desire to make rape legal or in arguments that men are owed sex no you don't. you see hyperbolic arguments taken out of context and arguments that men and women are both obligated to look after their partner's needs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:17 PM
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The obvious conclusion is to remove the dogshit so the conclusion about the redpill is keep the good stuff and get rid of the bad stuff and you have a pretty fucking good guide everyone can agree with. right, so why doesn't someone do that? all i see is people putting in different flavored dogshit, or removing the fundamental parts in the name of not offending people who aren't involved
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:15 PM
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i didn't say that either. i'm saying that prior behavior is likely to continue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:51 AM
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same as anything else, what they've done with others is what they will do with you. it's like cliff notes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:32 AM
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why would i bother (beyond the obvious)? women are variable enough that there's no real predictability in it. just make your shot and see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:28 AM
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don't have to. i've been hit on by them; they take a no easily. might be a factor that it's way easier to hook up with another dude i did have a gay asshole harass me over messenger for a long time. then he transitioned and she kept it up. so i called her out, said this is done, and she decided that i was a stalker creep and blocked me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:25 AM
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if obama did it and it worked out fine, maybe it's not literally the worst thing ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:24 AM
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I think people need to be more conscious of what attitudes are being displayed on TV and movies and what messages are portrayed by that media. this sounds like cultivation theory, but it doesn't apply. I really agree with the message of this comic, explaining why the coupling of concepts like neckbeard or virgin or incel together as an insult is problematic. try using better words. problematic is just super lazy. to your point, those are generic insults - they don't mean anything. they literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:23 AM
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And then he starts talking. And suddenly he's hot. better start fast, you have a short window before she stops paying attention and then it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:04 AM
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Ok,so why do you think men's desire is more spontaneous then? no data. how would you even test that? it's just an observed fact
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:03 AM
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it is so not. only difference is that there are additional requirements and it's harder to pull the hot male ass
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:01 AM
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meanwhile, photogenic mugshot guy is a felon, got a modeling contract and was dating an heiress.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:01 AM
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well, it establishes interest off the bat. i'd say it definitely has its advantages
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 06:58 AM
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i thought they explicitly acknowledged that a lot of women do just that: date a bit, find one guy, check out. and now they're off the market, so focus on people who are around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 11:41 PM
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i can be friends. if this woman wants a buddy, that's fine with me. don't be jealous if i start dating someone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 09:20 PM
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yes you can. s21.12 says that this is illegal for a teacher and their student
/r/PussyPassDenied22/07/20 11:02 PM
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student can't consent to a teacher at that age
/r/PussyPassDenied22/07/20 10:59 PM
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and people wonder why men are less willing to mentor women
/r/PussyPassDenied22/07/20 10:53 PM
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yeah, because you can't have sex after marriage. you're company property at that point. really, japan is sexually liberated in places (i can hire a 15 year old for an hour?) but also socially rigid and the hoops required to actually date are crazypants. it's just a fucked up place
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:37 AM
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well, when white men are told that it's all their fault because 'reasons'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:34 AM
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I work out to be stronger; women around here don't give too much of a shit about that. i diet to be more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:10 AM
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not at all. it's correlated, but mostly mental
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 03:30 AM
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he's looking for women he's actually attracted to, which is fine. everyone does this. anyway, i'm not asking advice, just pointing out that even with you, nice isn't enough; i'll wager that nice is fairly far down the list for most women. at the top: cute, charming, social standing, witty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:14 AM
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surely there's more to the guy than him being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:32 AM
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it definitely is. common advice is to lie about being a version until you aren't one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:28 PM
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for men it is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:24 PM
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mainly, if you're that unattractive to women, or that oblivious, just ignore that aspect of things unless a woman is being super obvious. since you can't tell anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 03:30 PM
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own their shit and awkwardness and try to find someone through that. it's not exactly time efficient, but i think it'd be their best bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 02:07 AM
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oh lord, looked up 'soul tie'. /winces so damn hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 02:20 AM
1

which is kind of the point: being a nice guy is largely irrelevant to sexual success
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 02:19 AM
1

so, how do you think the scene where they sack a hospital, rape the nurses, knife the babies, and set the whole thing on fire, then rape their way through old town will go? will it be a two parter? note that Oskar doesn't appear to have suffered any consequences for this until being captured the next year.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 05:05 AM
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they've done that before. it usually comes off as chilling - casual malice, indifference to mass slaughter of innocents? stuff of nightmares.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 05:00 AM
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nah, they use nice as a courting method, it fails, so they try it more on the next girl. the eventually get frustrated, act like a dick, it gets results, and they get super pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:59 AM
1

rick and morty got this right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:48 AM
2

that's me up until age 15 or so. combine it with a mother who was stuffy to an absurd degree and taught me that everything was my fault always.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:47 AM
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yeah, there's some of that. basically, it boils down to people complaining that "when i slip up and actually treat a woman nicely (like I actually want to), i can fucking see her lose attraction." for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:45 AM
5

TRP claims that women are inferior because they are, by and large, held to a lower standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:36 AM
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i see the confusion now: RP is more or less anti feminist; since these feminists think of themselves as standing for all women, anyone opposing them is necessarily opposing all women. makes sense now, but that's just a deconsttruction of the feminist worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:35 AM
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that's not how it's used, and that's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:33 AM
1

sex isn't that important to me. having a girl who wants to have sex and then has sex with me is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 10:41 PM
1

who cares? this was an argument that a sensible person could match trump's fiscal results without really breaking a sweat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 09:40 PM
1

this is more about starting from zero. musk had a EE dad and a model in south africa, gates had a trust fund and was unconcerned with rules. Dell - son of immigrants Jobs - started from nothing special
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 09:20 PM
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good for you. fact remains that trump is a buffoon born on third base. you want self made man, maybe look at jobs or michael dell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:54 PM
1

so what? i can state it with 80% confidence and that's good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:35 PM
1

no, he hasn't. you and i could eclipse him had we had similar starting points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:30 PM
1

and somehow managed to get a submarket rate of return doing all that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 08:08 PM
1

not hardly better. sex is damn easy to get if you don't want emotional intimacy. sexbots are just a variation on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:51 AM
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I used to do that stuff. so, i have empathy, i understand that women are not men and that they have no real interest in things i consider common courtesy and that i can't really change that. i used to respect women more. i respect them less, but do better sexually. fighting prejudice gets me labeled an MRA, so fuck that. MRA gets me not laid. I'd see women better if they actually gave me the common courtesies we had only 10 years ago. I can see people here complaining that men in general are sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 06:40 AM
1

what exactly has trump done that's so great?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 10:20 PM
2

you can do a shitload when you have 30 years to grow it and have controlled your daddy's company for 40
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 02:09 AM
1

Yes you are giving it. If they are taking it from you - then it goes from you to them, i.e. you are giving it to them. right. that isn't giving it away. the whole RP disdain for sluts is that they give it away to all and sundry. You are still giving it away albeit unwillingly. The result is the same. no it isn't. Doesn't tell much about your judgement and that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 05:01 PM
1

then i'd see evidence of that. and 'oppressive masculinity' isn't really on my radar
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 05:00 PM
1

the priority is. you can only put one thing first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 07:16 AM
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She's trying to explain to men that yes, they can be feminists, because ultimately its about men and women being equal i hear this, then i go looking for examples of feminists working for men's issues when they aren't a side effect of women's issues. all i find is them opposing men's issues, or giving lip service. so, why be a feminist if you're a guy? they sure as hell don't have your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 07:06 AM
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if you give something unwillingly, you aren't giving it. it is being taken from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:15 PM
1

the thread we're on is about how RP guys will/won't hold that against a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 09:30 PM
1

and they're more concerned with women who are spendthrifts than ones who got mugged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 09:22 PM
1

Why do you think there's this discrepancy? because taxes are a collective thing, and paying for public education benefits you in the long term. you also don't pay all that much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:21 PM
1

so if i get mugged, are you going to get on my tits about my spending habits?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:20 PM
1

no, it's a lot different
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:19 PM
1

yeah, no. you're just mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:19 PM
1

well, the virginity thread, for one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:18 PM
1

I was told I would be sent to jail for a rapist and plenty of men have been expelled from universities for much less than this. this is true. one guy hadn't even talked to his 'victim'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:39 AM
2

AKA, "why didn't u just get it". maybe he was me and spent too much time around tumblrinas... went the other way, had a gropey dance with some blonde chick i had just met, to the point that she was jacking me off through the pants, then afterwards felt slutty (I assume) and suddenly wouldn't talk to me or meet my gaze. that gave me a minor scare, esp when i got a msg a few days later from someone about how i got drunk and was extremely forward - assumed it was like the blonde and i was going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:37 AM
1

weird. i at least bathe, but stopped with deodorant when people started complimenting me more when i didn't bother. but, here's the thing, i do pay attention, and there is scant connection between hygiene and sexual success. would that some of the women i meet smell better, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:32 AM
2

so you're saying that the unattractive men aren't seen as attractive. that's vacuously true
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:18 AM
1

you kidding? i'd keep her naked and fuck her between meals as a sunday sort of thing. basically, i can and will go for hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:15 AM
1

you mean 'well crafted twilight fanfiction?'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:35 AM
1

um, i don't need to be drunk, but it'd probably go better for the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:31 AM
2

sure. may as well comment on the weather for all the relevance it has. telling someone that you have the ability to drag someone into an alley and rape them is amoral. encouraging them to do so is vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:21 AM
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Now, the claim that information, especially the act of spreading information, is amoral is false - if someone wants to murder a person who's hiding and you know that person's location, telling the murderer about it is not amoral. you're talking about enabling a soecific felony. helping someone get laid with some girl isn't illegal or even wrong, so the comparison isn't valid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:19 AM
1

Why is it imporant that an employeer not discriminate against employees due to "fairness"? because of a historical practice of not hiring people for being black. we decided that your right to pursue a career outweighed an employer's hatred for blacks and women, etc. Why is it important to make STEM more welcoming to women, due to this "fairness"? it's not fairness, it's a presumption that the low numbers are prima facie evidence of discrimination rather than women having other priorities and opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:36 AM
3

RP isn't a movement, so why would that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 02:37 AM
1

yeah, and then they conflate the new improved you with someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:26 AM
2

if they were confident and assertive, the wouldn't be beta. they'd be confident, assertive, and willing to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:59 AM
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yeah, i stopped doing so many nice things when i noticed that doing that with women i was interested in (before we were dating) resulted in them being suspicious. like, it repelled them. i still do nice things, but only for people i don't want to date, or ones i am dating. i'd like to be able to do that shit, but not if it means killing my chances with people i like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:58 AM
1

the fundamental advice is to take what works and discard what doesn't. it sounds like a cop out, but it's incumbent on anyone to evaluate how well the things they do work: if you lack that ability to reflect, the only thing that can save you is a 9" cock and dumb luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:56 AM
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RP allows that anger to be expressed. what you see is a bunch of people working through that anger. the ones past that sort of thing are quieter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:50 AM
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1,2 sure. 3 was more recognizing that i had a shitty idea of how to attract women (my mother didn't know how to seduce 20 year olds, shock, and wanted me to marry the sort of women i wasn't into) and the fact that there simply wasn't good advice available. also, a bunch of feminists acting all pissy about getting attention from men, but that's more about my location. they want to be desired purely for sex, AKA in a shallow way. no, i want to be desired and lusted after, and avoid being someone's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:45 AM
1

damn, now i feel better. i've got more definition than that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:34 AM
2

title of the thread, and yes, we're discussing SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 12:48 AM
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by definition they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 09:58 PM
1

well good for them. this whole discussion centers around attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:29 PM
1

you made something up because you want there to be two numbers and are now arguing that we've got it wrong. sorry, doesn't work like that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:25 PM
1

no, that's something you made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:24 PM
1

yeah, it's not strictly a market, and you aren't trading a man for a woman anyway. it's more like 'i'm a 6 and that can get me an 8 guy for a night'. this is just an abstraction for discussion approximate levels of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:52 PM
1

based on what, exactly? your assertion that she should be able to bed a man of the same value, but not higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:06 PM
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we're not using another term, and saying that you're an 8 because you can fuck 8s is pointless. it makes the exercise useless for discussing the fact that she can't get relationships from them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 05:32 PM
1

The two scales are unrelated; you can say those things, but you can't substitute one for the other, so equating them doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:27 AM
1

i asked this very question 5 years ago. the answer i got was anger about being approached. i'm not really sure if any of the women were dating anyone at the time, or since then. 3) is my preferred option. RC is bunk. cheesy lines for fun, a bit of flirting, or arguing about batman and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:59 AM
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he's at least something high, pretty much by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:56 AM
1

speak for yourself. i like long legs, sure, but also small tits and lean bodies. firm tits are way better than big ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:54 AM
1

oh good, someone's doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:48 AM
1

not how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:47 AM
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sure she is, just not for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:47 AM
1

SMV value isn't a percentile system, it's a semi objective to rank yourself against the population, with a rough set of markers at set points (like 5, 3, and 8).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:46 AM
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not possible. in the context of the SMP, a hetero woman's attractiveness is determined by the men interested in her (or her him). you don't get to declare your own level of attractiveness. edit: your social circle doesn't count unless you're dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:42 AM
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of course not women want the entertaining sexy hunk who comes by it naturally. RP is seeking to emulate parts of that, but also build the guy up so that he isn't using sex as validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 06:23 AM
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Are you saying it's not transparently obvious that lower class men are expected to work in those jobs with workplace fatality? i'm saying that's not relevant to the discussion. We do that (imbecillic history) with everything though. yes we do. it's disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 04:12 AM
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It's a manipulation of the prospects of the lower classes, transparently. well, not really. men are the 90% for workplace fatalities. women in low classes work shitty jobs, but those aren't nearly as dangerous. regardless, my point was that nobody really cares, or they assume that men already had that right. the truth is that the franchise was extended over the course of 70 years, then regressed for another hundred (jim crow). women got the right in 1920, and we got to elect senators directly in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 01:26 AM
1

you mean, like the political lesbians?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 11:53 PM
2

/punches producer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 11:50 PM
1

Nah, I'll claim that they didn't trade anything for it, and further that nobody really talks about men's suffrage
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 10:53 PM
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The American aristocracy had many options available to them, if they didn't wish to fight. who cares? he's talking about the average men. poor people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 10:01 PM
1

i'm saying that there was a fair amount of crossover in the movements. and yes, probably a bit of that too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:18 PM
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there's a lot of crossover between the us/uk in that time period. you can't consider them in isolation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:47 PM
5

suffragetes spent a bit of time in the UK bombing things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:56 PM
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no, it took a fair amount of terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:57 AM
2

ergo, they are not fringe. fringe implies some sort of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:32 AM
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no, it'll make a different first impression and make you more likely to be attractive to her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:59 AM
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currently hung up on the crazy hot girl while i go flirt with random other women, so that one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:09 AM
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no, they aren't fringe. they simply aren't there in your country.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:37 PM
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let's see... don't supplicate tease don't let them know that you had to work for what you've got - it should look easy and natural there's always another woman (don't get hung up on someone) don't show weakness have your own value - if she leaves, you're still awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 09:44 PM
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There's more, but that's a good start
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 09:03 PM
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They mostly go after the ones in power, who are the looney ones. Also, the hipocracy tends to annoy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 08:43 PM
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so they're clearly fringe because they aren't in your country
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:58 PM
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which ones? i've met a fair number of the ones that RP bitches about, and they are in fact batshit. i tend to agree that the attractive women tend not to make feminism their identity, so it makes a good dating filter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:55 PM
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oh look, you did it again
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:54 PM
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I would. it's common knowledge, so demanding a citation is like demanding a peer reviewed study of where the grocery store is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:52 PM
1

still illegal. that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 09:26 PM
1

Where? I just showed you that there are no criminal defamation laws in either the US or California. you know damn well that something can be illegal without it being a criminal matter. I'm saying that's exactly what women who make false accusations do, and that's exactly what they get away with. the fact that they get away with it doesn't mean they're acting within the law. people just aren't willing to enforce consequences, lest they be branded rape apologists. so, instead of pursuing legal rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 09:11 PM
1

point being that there are laws against calling someone a rapist and causing them reputational damage and impacting their physical safety. or are you saying that it's perfectly okay to engage in character assassination against someone and that they have no recourse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:40 PM
2

fine, it's a tort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:32 PM
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it probably does, it's just hard to prove. if you claim rape when it didn't happen, it comes down to proving that you knew it was false and made the claim anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:20 PM
2

ok then, defamation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:13 PM
1

to be fair, this was something you had to already know about; most articles weren't providing the context
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:12 PM
3

lying to the cops about a crime is a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:33 AM
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men don't report DV because going to jail sucks, being laughed at by the cops sucks, and there's fuck all upside.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:26 AM
3

1000 is a perfectly large sample. it's sample selection that's the big thing. for instance: one college
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:21 AM
1

pick a position (that isn't lizard people level crazy)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:20 AM
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i doubt most people see it as satire. my FB was dripping with calls for violence in the past week, including 5th column style infiltration. basically, a lynch mob.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:05 AM
1

pizza is for losers who can't get sushi
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:29 AM
2

women are depicted as the disadvantaged sex in the hookup culture, and are fighting over the top 10 percent of men, and have to go by the male's rules if they want to be with them god, that's funny - women chase the top 10%, but it's the men's fault that none of them settle for someone on the lower tier, or perhaps find someone with unfortunate fashion and work on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:12 AM
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I do look like i'm in my 20s; i have maybe 10 more years of that. sure, i'd like to settle down, but i know the cost of choosing poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:08 AM
2

FTB, and what's the deal with jezebel shilling for wall street?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 04:47 AM
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"Women ruin everything that men can enjoy without them." because they see these men only gatherings and demand admittance, and their mere presence changes the vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:13 AM
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no, they're BB. BB is about provision, not attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:09 AM
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become friends (actual friends, not covert boyfriend in waiting), and over the course of your friendship demonstrate your good boyfriend qualities. and when she's done fucking the hot guys who are actually forward, she'll confide in you that she really wants a guy like you, just... not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:09 AM
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some of them are crazy, too. mostly find that out by getting to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:57 PM
1

i'm thinking about cute girls dressed in lace and fetish gear in public. i really like it, and while some of them are crazy, it's not a good predictor
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:45 AM
1

you can assume a lot and be right most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:41 AM
1

you listed a bunch of ways your style of dress says things about you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:46 AM
1

so you agree with him. you just listed off a bunch of things that your clothes say about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:35 AM
1

or, you know, they want to enjoy being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:34 AM
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sure it's rocket science - if someone told me i couldn't leave when i wanted to, i'd fucking leave
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 10:29 PM
1

she doesn't like rape play, she just says no when she doesn't mean it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 10:26 PM
3

that's great, but what we have now is the RP boundary pushing (which actually seems to mesh with the whole 'say one thing mean another' that lots of women do) and the ultrafeminist line about explicit consent, which appears to be devised by people who don't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 10:25 PM
1

try again - marry a 24 year old when you're also 24 or possibly late 20s - RP skews young
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 05:28 PM
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it advocates marrying young because they're then committing when they have lots of options. this demonstrates actual interest and a willingness to commit when you aren't forced into it. in addition, marrying someone with a low partner count also corresponds to a better shot at a long relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 05:19 AM
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it advocates marrying young because they're then committing when they have lots of options. this demonstrates actual interest and a willingness to commit when you aren't forced into it. in addition, marrying someone with a low partner count also corresponds to a better shot at a long relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 05:19 AM
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there was discussion on there about how socially conservative groups have lower divorce rates; they also tend to get married and have fairly functional, stable family units. so, if you're not in that crowd, it may well be irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 05:17 AM
1

is that so shocking?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 11:54 PM
1

that sucks; i'd think this would be at least somewhat endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:55 PM
0

you think math helps you navigate the ape dominance games we engage in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:53 PM
1

i know a guy who was falsely accused (as in, the girl was the aggressor, then pressed charges a year later due to family pressure). he got charged, got a restraining order, and then she showed up at an event he was already at. so, cops called, dude is arrested, bunch of people think he's a rapist. Also, it looks like she caught a beating, possibly from his friends who were hacked off about the whole thing. total shit show. i'd like to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:52 PM
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eh, i've been there too, and i've been mugged. i rate them above equal. worse is the toxic rumors that someone started a couple years ago; that shit is far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:49 PM
1

of course they do, they want the shit they have to count and the shit they don't have to not count. just like everyone else. only difference is that they're entitled enough to demand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:42 PM
1

yes, seriously. if you're hot enough, the shit you pull that gets the cops called on average men gets you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:40 PM
1

I find it repulsive to imagine marrying a woman i don't lust after.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:37 PM
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probably not. they're BB material, but not particularly good at being sexy. hell, a lot of them make great fathers, but they were raised on a strategy of appeasing women and showcasing their niceness, and that isn't sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:35 PM
1

RP is in line with observing the situation and using it to your advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:14 AM
4

Statistically, yes it is. That doesn't mean men who are subjected to DV shouldn't receive support. But it is primarily a man on woman thing. no, i posted a study that shows this to be false. it's simply false.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:00 PM
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it's DV; seriously, if someone is chasing you with a weapon, that counts. And i don't get to smack my GF around because she's fucking someone else - still DV. never mind that you're wrong on the broader thing: DV isn't a primarily man on woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 05:20 PM
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point being, if he beats her, it's DV, if she beats him, it's funny. sorry dude, you gotta stop with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:53 PM
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my study is better than your shitty article; 30% or so of DV victims are women. 70% are men. We are inundated with news stories about domestic violence , from athletes beating their significant others in public elevators or in their own homes to celebrities publicly abusing their girlfriends. and when Tiger Woods' GF chases him with a driver, we laugh about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:49 PM
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try again: Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Read More: http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:41 PM
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i can look at DV stats and see that women are just as frequently the abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:25 PM
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men are just much more likely to be violent. hah, bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 07:02 AM
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domestic violence because people like you dismiss it due to women being physically weak, and people generally assuming that the duluth model is at all accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 07:02 AM
1

Bernie sanders, who marched with mlk?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 05:58 AM
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it's not sexist per se, it's claiming that men are on the top and demanding that women be accorded equal status
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 05:37 AM
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the 'we were lied to' thing was more about being told that being a good guy, or nice, was important, or that looks weren't too important. you appear to agree that looks matter, even though the specifics change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 10:00 PM
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so, guys that look like they could end someone, but who treat them well, or at least know how to back off/not push too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:56 PM
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i think it's more that they've seen the witty guy, or the one you describe as your type chat up a girl, do well, then lose it in 5 minutes because an abercrombie motherfucker shows up - that dude isn't particularly smart or erudite, and he's personable, but not nearly as witty, and the girl just drools over him. they see that repeated 10 times and very infrequently see her ignore the model hot guy, so they get a bit strident
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:54 PM
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access to interested women is certainly a factor, but i sure as hell feel better when i have a nice place and the clear means to pay for it, plus spare money in reasonable quantities. add in a buffer that means a job loss is something i have 6 months to deal with and i can be at the least content without a woman interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:50 PM
1

lift, lose weight, lie about the virginity if it comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 08:59 AM
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man. not gay, so dating isn't relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 08:19 AM
0

hell, their kids could pay their own way with a summer job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:58 PM
1

what's any of that got to do with white supremacy? get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 08:09 PM
1

well, an absolute morality. god is hardly objective
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:02 AM
0

could be worse - men are punchlines
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 08:04 AM
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:rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 08:04 AM
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mostly that there are no CK models in the market for their broken down ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:13 AM
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sure i did. do you have anything to suggest that this impacts performance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:48 AM
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you keep saying that. are you sure? can you support it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:13 AM
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all those athletes are nominally natural. this basically implies that AAS steroids would close that gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:48 PM
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pretty sure that's mostly muscle mass, which is tied to the T levels; they do tend to run more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:25 PM
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i dispute the anatomy part - it appears to be mostly driven by hormone balance - the only other material difference is the difference between working sets and 1RM - that points to women being wired more for safety
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:03 PM
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got in an argument about that with a guy i know. he also doesn't believe that testosterone is related to strength
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:13 AM
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pfft, a man loses half the stuff he's accumulated over his life and a chunk more going forward through no fault of his own, enforced by the courts? that's a man losing his future because his wife got bored. this part: Men who use the phrase "divorce rape" demonstrate how little they understand about women is funny. you tried to invalidate anyone who uses the phrase by saying that if you use it, you deserve to get it done to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 12:36 AM
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if i had a higher sex drive at 18, i'd explode. at 35, i'm still a mountain goat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 12:33 AM
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in that case, nothing can be proven to be objectively real. or maybe don't go down a philosophical rathole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:18 AM
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they are objectively real in a social context
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 03:51 AM
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threatening him with being cut from the will isn't a financial thing - if he's got a pile of cash, he doesn't need more
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:06 AM
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isn't jude law rich? i'd assume this is some sort of shunning thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:44 AM
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maybe after dating the next guy for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:36 AM
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sounds like the dude needs counseling anyway. and to stay away from radfems too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:32 AM
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they demand 3, and want 1 and 2. you haven't really said what it is about the man that you think they want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:30 AM
1

that's pretty objective
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:23 AM
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RP is in no way a movement
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:20 AM
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so what exactly is a loosely defined group of people with no police powers, or even regular meetings supposed to do about someone who is apparently saying mean things?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:19 AM
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TRP is more about watching what women do. is this a controversial thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 12:25 AM
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okay, but now you're removing something i want to keep
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:12 PM
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no, they're two different things. humans are fallible, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:11 PM
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she hasn't got proof, so he'd likely be able to sue her. I believe it is her right as part of her freedom of speech. unsupported accusations are not free speech
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:11 PM
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hah, i broke up with one girl, maintained a friendly relationship for a few months afterwards, and then she blew up on me for posting about another girl. aftercare doesn't help that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:49 AM
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so, if i killed a guy, i can just work that out with his family? no, this is a serious crime. if it happened, then prosecute. if you go around telling people that someone is a rapist without supporting it, he'll roast you in court
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:44 AM
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I personally know two men falsely accused, and suspect a third. the social consequences were rather serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:41 AM
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no, they decide what can be proven. what has happened is a separate thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:39 AM
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If marriage contracts were done on an individual basis, without government, contracts are just paper. more fundamentally, 'without government' is a temporary phase, so discussing anything that lasts for a while 'without government' is a null concept
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:34 AM
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that's the line. there's some truth to it too: every rape has two phases - the time before the attacker decides to do his thing and the time after. your actions can affect the first part more readily than the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:44 PM
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just there: this is a prelude to introducing an expanded version without acknowledging that it's different
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:43 PM
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no, we have plenty of people disagreeing on this topic - you don't get to define what rape is and then cast men who see things differently as rapists who don't know they're rapists. hell, you don't get to unilaterally declare what rape is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:33 AM
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you first. what are the top two causes, since doing stupid things in bars isn't one?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:32 AM
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funny, last i checked, it was a fairly large portion of bad decisions and rape. but do tell me what the top 2 are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:43 AM
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The problem comes in when we imply that exercising caution is the solution to assault, it isn't the solution, it's a solution. exercise a bit of awareness and plan ahead if you're gonna get hammered, and you reduce your already low risk by a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:04 PM
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damn straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:00 PM
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just because i don't drink the moonshine doesn't make me a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:00 PM
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AWALT = they're all capable of fucking you over big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:59 PM
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'teach men not to rape' has been a thing for a number of years. how are you not aware of this? it's absurd, since most of us men already know about that,and the ones who don't care, don't care. so, you're going to go on a digression about teaching consent practices, which are mainly about us guys taking the responsibility for getting it right, but nothing about clear communication on the woman's part - she can do whatever and it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:51 PM
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what i've seen so far is shit for education - posters telling women to hate and fear men, mandatory sensitivity training for men (only) demanding a pledge not to ever hurt women, not even the acknowledgement that women can and often are aggressors. it's fucked, and yet you expect my support to do more things in that vein
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:54 AM
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what bit are you even referring to?i'm saying that you've got a choice in how you act, not in how others act
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 02:05 AM
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so, you want a reason that something is legal, aside from the actual law? is this going in to some stupid reductive debate about the age of consent? nah, fuck off. this is a question about whether you'd let your daughter take up with a guy roughly twice her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 08:02 PM
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it's legal. that isn't really the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:57 PM
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So what is it, other than your arbitrary personal opinion and what the government says, that makes it perfectly ok for a 35 year old to fuck an 18 year old, but completely wrong to fuck a 17 year old? define 'ok'. as her dad, i'd say to stay the hell away, and in the general case, they're both naive in the ways of the world. If he's Chad Thundercock...better yet, Brad Pitt circa 1999, then you can bet your ass almost all of them would be interested maybe for a night. but if that's all you want, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:55 PM
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no, they want to be the one that women chase and lust after, regardless of best interest. because those women aren't acting in their best interest anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:49 PM
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no, your 17 year old daughter will not be allowed to go fuck a 35 year old RP (or any other) dude to the extent you can reasonably enforce that. fucking an 18 year old is fine - two teens fucking around is no BFD. According to your logic, they are an adult, and thus capable of consenting to sexual activity with a 35 year old. yeah, and they're probably not interested in the 35 year old. never mind that these are guidelines and not hard and fast rules
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:47 PM
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it's plenty good enough of a reason to treat your daughter like a child when she's considering taking up with a 35 year old. it's not something i can prevent in this state, but it's certainly not something to encourage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:42 PM
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they generally aren't. you're an adult when you can support yourself independent of your parents
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:41 PM
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this is the focus of TRP. These questions are not rhetorical, either - there are answers on the RP sidebar. Everything in the fitness subreddit is geared towards fitness as a topic. RP subject matter is/should be geared towards sexual strategy. you don't talk about getting interest from a woman on fitness, and you don't get a form check in TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:36 PM
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except that it doesn't, because men do 90% of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:12 PM
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sexual strategy. did you not look at the subreddit at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:03 PM
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cosmo is meant to be taken seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:01 PM
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you'd think that it would impact sales, then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:00 PM
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all through the lens of fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 06:54 PM
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they're children because they've been in the nest all their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 06:53 PM
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generally, they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 06:52 PM
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mostly, it implies the second part. i'd only be bitter if one of those wall-hitters ignored me before the wall, then started hitting on me after.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 06:50 PM
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you're focusing on fixing the rapists, but they don't see that they should be fixed. thankfully, there aren't many, at least among men. We do have programs for dealing with rapists, but that takes time to prosecute. meanwhile, women can take steps to be less vulnerable - shouldn't we do that? after all, rape is a nasty business. and while we're on the subject, men can do the same - it's not like rape only happens to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 05:01 PM
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that strategy doesn't actually stop rape from happening yes it does. we are tacitly accepting that women's actions are the cause of rape no, we are accepting that a woman's ability to affect the situation is limited to their own actions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 08:19 AM
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friendzoning is only primarily a girl thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:28 AM
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i've met some who argued with me on whether men were stronger than women. because the social construct thing. actually, a sizeable number of 2nd wavers buy that line
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:09 AM
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because they get attached too quickly. the ones you like don't do that, but then you do bitch when you go for them and they don't get attached enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:22 AM
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yes it is, but it's applied indiscriminately.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:21 AM
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you made a simple assertion about what is basically accepted truth in most of the country
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 01:23 AM
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yes they do. they accept that women are consistent enough for some things to be true for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 01:02 AM
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No, you're flat wrong. NG is the strawman. you see someone bitching about a romantic fuckup, and impute the whole NG thing from what you see. this isn't real, it's you projecting your insecurities on some poor bastard so that you can keep your simplistic bad guy scenario instead of accepting that it's just a sad scene. it also makes it easier to reject someone if you can make them a bad guy instead of merely unattractive. I wish when I was young, single and dealing with this nonsense, I had the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 11:28 PM
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yeah, you are. you go from getting mad because someone isn't attracted to you to getting mad at them to feeling entitled. you started with someone having bad luck with women and turned into something shameful that you can justifiably be angry at them. if i had to guess, you're too much of a pussy to admit that you aren't attracted to the guy and made up all this BS to protect your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 11:09 PM
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the assertion is that these douches are minority and that you're tarring a huge number of people with a really broad brush. you're mostly shaming men for being unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 10:59 PM
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here's the thing: entitled douches exist, but stop fucking painting every nice guy as one of of them. here's a quick guide to my buttons: rejection: ghosting is an asshole move. we were getting along for 3 months and you one day stopped acknowledging me, and refusing even eye contact. outright rejection is fine. wish more women were adults in this manner. rage: you can lie to me about something important. i will get mad and then dump you on the spot when it becomes clear that you are not to be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 09:33 PM
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considering that i've seen it, yes. never mind that i find nothing wrong with most of the criticism in that link - oneitis is something that RP and most of feminists seem to agree on. the idea that friendship is failure is reasonable - i can't see how this is a criticism. the bit about bargaining for sex is hardly sexist. i find it hard to wrap my head around this one - they think that's sexist because men do it to women (mostly)? sure, it's not particularly effective, but so what? now to the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 09:00 PM
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probs. maybe we should be more cool with importing moderate muslims and dealing with the loons (like isis) more harshly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 08:46 PM
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if 20% if women are child free and the rest are having 2.6 kids, we'll maintain population. any less and we shrink over time. aside from that, i don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:40 PM
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i'm saying that they can, but usually don't
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:29 PM
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average joe can be hot and exciting with a bit of work. what he can't be is greek god territory - that's fine, hot/exciting works for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:21 PM
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friends in bdsm land were having some fun with the whole "6 swats" spanking scene. it wasn't mild so much as milquetoast. If you want fun bdsm in a movie, i recommend The Secretary
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:19 PM
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to be fair, the bdsm was apparently rather pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:07 PM
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uh, most romance models feature late 20s billionaires with model hot bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:07 PM
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just because an idea or type of person makes someone orgasm does not mean that's what the desire. yes it does. making someone orgasm is pretty much the most clear indication of desire i can think of. I for one know that , if a porn star i found attractive came on to me, i'd be on board. You see, for most people desire and fantasy are aspects of a larger multifaceted internal conversation about one's own personality. right, and romance novels play at desire and a fantasy life. not, you know, tyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:04 PM
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no, it isn't. if that were the case, i'd be on board, but i've never heard that part until just now. mostly, they get called entitled for complaining about a lack of success where people can hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:59 PM
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in fact, it's to the point where mentioning that a guy is batting above his paygrade, but not successful is enough for them to get tarred, even if you say nothing at all about how he actually deals with this disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:58 PM
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damn wolf, because danny devito has trouble with women (or maybe not), average guys are fucked? or maybe you can recognize that there's the 90% of guys in the middle - they aren't greek gods, but they aren't built like milton.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:56 PM
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no, it declares that the ones who identify as nice are assholes because they try to use nice as a flirtation technique
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:53 PM
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that's what alpha is. alpha = leader and attractive, but it doesn't require the perfect genes; add perfect genes and it's even better, but that isn't the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 06:19 PM
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RP discourages femininity because it isn't attractive to women, for the most part. That's the end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 03:50 AM
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so, why are you even in here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 11:34 PM
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finally, we've got an answer. you quit the game and are angry that someone would put in work to attract attention rather than sit back and wait. so, why are you even in here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 11:30 PM
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fine, you're asex. why do you even get to speak on the subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 10:32 PM
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oh, finally you tell me which side of this you're on. that does impact your experience, you know. gay male = outside of RP's scope. I figure that if I can have a conversation with someone, then it's enough. and guys operate a bit differently. Who said it isn't? It's certainly good for RP because they just want the sex anyway. no, they additionally want sex. don't tell me that this is a bad thing. I'm not a bluepiller, I don't care about TRP's antics. nor should you, as you aren't party to any of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:41 PM
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But I've already told you that I don't want a shot with them. it's only in the past post you let on to being a woman. It has nothing to do with definitions. it has quite a lot. if you don't define what you're talking about, it's hard to discuss it. I was deliberately providing a specific example in which it's possible for a shy person to be more interesting than a confident one. in the middle of a general discussion, it didn't come off that way. Yeah well, that's the kind of idiocy that I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 05:12 AM
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because you need both to have a shot. And really, shut up about the goalposts - you didn't define a damn thing, so it's up to me to come up with details. many people who are not confident can be quite enjoyable to talk to moreso than some confident frat guy. lulz, there's only quiet and frat boy. with you being a girl, this makes more sense - you hate the notion that some guy you find interesting had to put in work specifically to get your interest. So if women find the task impossible 'the task…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:38 AM
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well sure, if you're a guy talking to other guys, it isn't a dating context. if you're talking to girls and aren't confident and interesting, she's probably not that interested and will go find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 12:41 AM
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who said anything about not being yourself? it's about selling yourself effectively, unless yourself is an unconfident doormat. who'd want to be him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 12:20 AM
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you can do that, but it's silly. Being passive and 'just yourself' won't work for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 11:59 PM
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ambition, charm, and dominance are internal, status, success, and popularity definitely figure into your attractiveness. I think that you failed to specify what you meant in the first place, and also have a warped idea of what makes you attractive to women. Not moving goalposts, defining terms. Because, you know, "i want someone to love me for me" screams naiveté.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 11:42 PM
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what's that got to do with RP stuff? do you really think that learning how to be more charming and dress well, or finding a balance between forward and friendly are external factors?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 09:21 PM
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as a guy, my job is to make it happen; if i don't work at attraction and game, it won't happen. i'm above average, and if i sit around and wait, i may have one interesting woman approach me every 2 years, and i want to not have to just take whomever might be worth dating - working on flirtation and fashion, etc leads to more women being interested and me having actual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:34 PM
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yeah, back when those things signified richness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:57 AM
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hypergamy is a thing, and ignoring what she says is good common sense. watch what she does instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:45 AM
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so you want it to 'just happen'?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:41 AM
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Sounds good. campuses are not equipped to investigate rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 04:03 AM
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i care a whole lot more about her lying about her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 04:03 AM
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that's not it, even. the girl has to make you see 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:55 AM
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sex is about sex - it's a fundamental force in psychology. do people pursue power simply to lord over others?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:46 AM
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i'm suggesting that getting accused of rape can devastate you socially and economically, regardless of any court proceedings. further, you may run afoul of a crowd of do gooders looking to make an example
/r/MensRights04/11/15 12:29 AM
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what happens when the accused gets some extra judicial justice? just think - you could accuse someone of something heinous, he goes to the hospital courtesy of a mob, and you get no consequences
/r/MensRights03/11/15 10:10 PM
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know some. remember, feynman wasn't always a ladies' man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 07:15 AM
1

reminds me of jessica rabbit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 07:13 AM
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i wonder if he realizes how dangerous it is to interfere with a couple fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 04:28 AM
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well, he is. he took control of a country and conquered europe. how is taht not alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 03:23 AM
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when was he a role model? maybe an example of extreme power, but a role model?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 03:06 AM
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you can find the answers in history
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 07:04 PM
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bowies's DQed, simply because he's a 10 to too many people :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 01:16 AM
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you're right, that's a dumb question. now, why does it matter if women want men in their jobs when it doesn't matter whether men want women in their job?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 06:40 PM
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and it'll make it difficult for the man to succeed. Or are you saying a woman should work 2x as hard and deal with being constantly sabotaged at the same job /bitchslaps you either it matters that the women don't want men in their shit and vice versa or not. and turning it into 'we're scary' doesn't change a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 08:35 AM
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oh sure, get two serious beatings at the hand of public opinion one after another and see how whole you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:50 AM
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Also, do male truck drivers and male sanitation workers WANT female coworkers. why is that a factor? it isn't one when things are going the other way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:16 AM
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Comcast is at the mercy of its customers. how do you figure? they control something that is a near necessity and there aren't many alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:07 AM
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no, sarkeesian is trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 02:54 AM
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neckbeard isn't a socially marginalized person so much as a caricature of an ugly entitled man - it's not that you're ugly so much as possibly dangerous and to be feared.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 05:08 AM
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No women who had ever had "unconventional" sex awesome, i love those girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 04:21 AM
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deflect? imagine the accuser as your kid sister, react accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 04:14 AM
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So, what's wrong with you guys? nice opener. is that how you approach dating? because it's kind of a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:47 AM
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realistic, but not all that common. i've done it, and i know a few people who prefer their men 10-15 years older. does TRP promise this unrealistic reward to older guys that when they hit 30 their SMV will peak and they will have the opportunity to scoop up young girls including virgins? lol, that's rich. TRP promises nothing, but does tell men that there are common things they can do to improve their appeal, and that it's okay to have standards
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:46 AM
2

heh, i lived this - did the whole "getting permission" thing, let her escalate, and when she felt too slutty afterwards, i was the bad guy anyway
/r/MensRights26/10/15 06:09 AM
2

there's a difference between 'guarded' and 'knows the chief of police and will fuck you over if things go wrong'
/r/MensRights26/10/15 06:07 AM
1

Every day I see comments from people saying that women are always awarded custody of kids. Nobody mentions that courts only refuse access if there is a strong, legitimate reason to do so. access or custody? those are two separate things, unless you're going to tell me that shared custody is now the default. i don't really buy it, but go ahead...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:31 AM
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As for VAWA, there have been several attempts to make it more inclusive to men. It is meant to be gender neutral. it's based on the duluth model, as are many DV artifacts; that makes it anti male by construction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:30 AM
1

yes and yes. results are never guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:15 AM
1

how about they aren't on a massive rise? it's 25-35/decade, and has been for 50 years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:11 AM
1

hell, that's the plot of a number of sitcoms. MitM, for instance
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:09 AM
1

funny, i hear "this is why it's important to teach guys like this social skills"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:55 AM
2

Who's even asking for this? it sounds terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 02:22 AM
1

well, you've got a warped perspective on healthy weight (from the OP), so it's reasonable to assume portion size is also in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:30 AM
1

yup. learn about lean meats, veggies, and correct portion size. that should get you on your way. eat simple and low carb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:53 AM
1

duh, it isn't perfect, but it works more or less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:40 AM
1

forgot your /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 06:10 PM
1

totally a serial killer, but the comment is more about how genius is more prevalent among men, but expresses itself in positive and negative ways. we all know who marilyn vos savant is, but we don't expect to find a lot of women like her out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 06:00 PM
1

grisly, but not a spree killer. she's more a greedy woman with no morals whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:01 PM
1

well, at least be proactive. the friends -> dating thing doesn't work that often
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:43 AM
2

nah, the women they get who've failed to get a top guy to commit are often resentful about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:41 AM
1

it's important to her religiuon
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:36 AM
1

In fact, since the majority of consumers are women, a woman may have a unique viewpoint on the shit people will actually buy. sort of like how that makes their dating advice so valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:33 AM
1

nah, that counts. takes chops to pull off that level of fraud
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:32 AM
1

he was one of 3 people in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:30 AM
1

No, to paraphrase Paglia, we have no female Jobs because we have no female Jack the Ripper. and playing off CopperFox, Pao was a diversity hire. Fiorina is arguably the same - I wouldn't place them anywhere near jobs - find me a female founder that made it big or has that potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:30 AM
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the conflict is that people hear from people they're into that they wish so and so was 'nice' and believe it - they also get told that nice is the thing to be, and it's not true. that's the source of the anger - being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:27 AM
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*tenet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:28 AM
1

pfft, this is more a criticism of the ideology for ignoring contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:26 AM
1

i think i was 10 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:13 AM
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wow, you're mocking someone for being pissed that an ex took half his stuff and got monthly checks for some number of years. yeah, i don't get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:07 AM
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no, but he has no obligation to the child whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:15 AM
2

well that's certainly going to head off the next disaffected youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:52 AM
5

wow, at what point did anyone say this was justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:47 AM
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sort of the point, i suppose. he was a null point and made no difference. kill 12 people and suddenly people notice you. possibly for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:46 AM
3

TRP, where sexual success is sold as a side effect of pursuing things for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:43 AM
2

this is why RP or something like it is necessary. to wit: effective and actionable advice for getting laid without being deceptive (because getting laid only through lies is probably really bad too).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:43 AM
3

we have shitty psych care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:41 AM
0

nope. i want sex with her. she's never available, and she has driven me to other women. I have a simple solution. Take her out on a date and don't push for sex at all. Be romantic. yup. romantic date, happy wife who falls asleep afterwards. you don't see her as just a sexual object uh, gross. how's this: she's freezing me out and shaming my desire, so i'll drop all affection. it isn't returned, and i'm being taken for granted. Honestly tell her that you do want sex but if she doesn't want it rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:11 AM
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i'm saying that if there's no sex, you're roommates. sexual exclusivity implies that there is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:57 AM
1

i've offered no advice save that at some point you stop working on appeasing the beast
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:56 AM
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cheating on someone who isn't participating isn't cheating. i have a roommate. if i bring a girl home, am i cheating on them? That you cannot be faithful and consider vaginas interchangeable. i can be faithful, but not celibate. fuck you for marrying someone you won't fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:55 AM
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that is not force. I want sex, my wife is frigid. i'm going to get a GF. You aren't asking your lady friend what the issue is. "you always want sex". for 6 solid months. goddamn, woman, fuck me for coming on to my wife. Your response to the problem is literally "find another woman" or "she should just shut up about her problems". she isn't addressing her problems, because she's fine with the situation. well, until i find someone else to fuck. you're ignoring that this also goes the other way, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:54 AM
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psst, we haven't really gotten to that. but i'll save you the legwork: over in /r/deadbedrooms, you will find that, time and time again, one partner is doing all manner of things to get their partner interested to no effect. they sure as fuck care, but the partner is done. so, you get the whole "I'd rather fuck you, but that's off the table. i'm doing something about it"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:49 AM
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nobody is suggesting that you force the sex. you get a choice: either you like fucking your husband or you let him fuck others. or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:44 AM
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if my wife doesn't want sex, and i do, then what's wrong with me getting it elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:43 AM
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you expect me to have sympathy for a woman who won't fuck her husband for months on end but doesn't want him to get it anywhere else either?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:29 AM
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oh please. i said that there is a mutual duty to court and attract your spouse. that means that you should both work on fulfilling the other sexually. if the wife checks out on that, then she's got no right to bitch when he goes elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:09 AM
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lol wat? gotta explain that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:48 AM
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funny, i'm arguing that my feelings and needs actually matter and you're calling me a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:06 AM
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Eh, fuck you. I happen to love smart and successful women, I simply don't buy the idea that marriage implies no sexual obligation. I'm signing up to screw one woman only, but she doesn't have to do anything? Lol, no. She's got an obligation to entice me, and I her. If she doesn't want to have sex, she can't complain if I go elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:27 AM
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if she doesn't approve, but doesn't want to fuck him, where does she have room to complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:47 PM
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i don't have an obligation to be celibate. fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:46 PM
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so i have no obligation to be exclusive with my wife? why even get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:45 PM
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is that because academics tend to be so tight that you're lucky to get a finger in?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:23 PM
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sure, are you near by?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:23 PM
2

just ignore the ones that act entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:03 AM
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huh, i get shit on a bit for being a trog, but i can't really relate to this. IDGAF if a girls's screwed black guys or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:59 AM
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Keep in mind that we're assuming physical attractiveness follows a bell curve distribution so an 8 isn't necessarily 80th percentile. no it fucking doesn't. it's a rating system. 5 or 6 is average, but come on - bell curve? Most people are in the 4-6 range and most guys on TRP who think they're 8s are really like 6s. because what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 04:45 AM
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eh, you don't give two shits about them unless you need an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 03:46 AM
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no it isn't. jesus, is everything privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 03:32 AM
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lulz, most men my age and country are grinding our $25/hr, more or less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 03:10 AM
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so, do you mean men who can't get any action, or men who can't get action from women they find attraction, assuming somewhat reasonable standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:28 AM
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too damn angry and random. skipped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:42 AM
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no it isn't. rape culture is rape being considered normal. for instance, prison
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:57 AM
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you don't. their world view has no room for dissent - you either agree or you're ignorant of the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:08 AM
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right. they demand a higher income/education level, limiting their dating pool, making it harder to date
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 10:15 PM
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duh. i know several.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:46 AM
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So, if women dislike catcalls, even from guys their age who are decent-looking who says they do? the difference between a cat call and a successful approach could very well be whether she was receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 01:44 AM
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that's actually explicitly a RP thing - the more dick you have, the more likely you've got dick that outclasses your partner in a big way, and that can make it that much easier for you to stray.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:33 AM
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Male victims of domestic violence and rape not taken seriously: Ok, first of all in my experience the ones who don't take these men seriously are usually not the feminists but the traditionalists the duluth model, which is a pillar of feminism, is the reason for this. I remember in high school we were talking about a case where a man got raped by a woman and the ones who were laughing the most were the young boys who said that "men can't be raped" and that "if he didn't enjoy it he must have bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:09 AM
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you've forgotten what an original feminist is, hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:05 AM
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adding T makes you physically more masculine, so it's easy enough to pass as male, and that makes the whole thing a nonevent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:51 AM
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oh, this is too funny. you don't even know your history
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:50 AM
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that's what the discussion is about. nice guys using the wrong sort of dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:32 AM
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it's a known trope. why don't you go google some stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 12:13 AM
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if i had a choice between someone with mental problems and someone without, things being approximately equal, why would i date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:34 AM
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so, if i get enough points, i'm datable? Or, if i'm missing dealbreakers and over the line on the important shit - that's a better model.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:29 AM
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how about avoiding high risk bets when better options are available?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:26 AM
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women are inherently irresponsible. so are men, but we don't let them skate. So, you're right, but also wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 12:47 AM
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i see plenty, and it tends to encourage experimentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:16 PM
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This is hilarious, all you do is make claims and insult people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:38 PM
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you didn't answer anything related to the question, you just made some vague claims. so, good luck with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 04:22 PM
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so, you 're saying that the cartoon of TRP that is in your head doesn't match reality. shocking, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 04:15 PM
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guess i forgot the /s tag. totes not serious
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:12 AM
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not too bright, are you? Engineering is the process of making things and making it better. Science is the process of discovery and explanation. Engineering predates science almost out of necessity - you do a thing, science figures out why it works and refines it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:28 PM
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science = WTF did the tacoma narrows bridge fall over? engineering = No idea about tacoma narrows, we'll build the brooklyn bridge extra stiff. hell, we've been building bridges for a long time, longer than we had theory telling us how much load they could take. then we went to steel bridges and didn't even triangulate the fucking things. Engineering got us guns and cannons. science got is lighter cannons and better powder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:24 PM
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no, it isn't. science is based on engineering. then engineering is refined from the science. you can create ery functional things without exactly knowing why it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:56 PM
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sweeping things that happen to work. it isn't science, it's engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:48 PM
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what are you getting at? should I not use RP things until it's properly peer reviewed? what purpose does that serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:30 PM
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exactly how many repeated lessons does it take before you stop calling it confirmation bias? if doing the thing breeds success and not doing it leads to failure, that's a pretty good lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:12 PM
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women prefer toned athletic builds to bulk based on studies i've seen (and reality). yeah, they want hemsworth and jackman. you know, bulky and lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:10 PM
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fullbacks can't run a mile either. it's a different optimization. what you call functional athleticism is merely endurance and speed - you're basically declaring the world to match your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:09 PM
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Given that most of the erotica field reports in there are clearly fictional and that a lot of the men saying that TRP has helped them become their inner sex god are the same guys writing these fictional field reports yeah, given that, you're absolutely right. what basis do you have to say that this is all fiction? if anything, i'd say the most unsettling thing is when it works exactly as you'd been told. some combination of 'hey, that's all it takes?' and disillusionment. But most men don't fit …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:59 PM
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no, no, you just have to accept that you don't get to have much sex. nothing will change that at all. honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:55 PM
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And then the same people go on to preach that "women are individuals" love that part. it basically means "never generalize about anything"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:51 PM
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that's a variant on argument to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:29 PM
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the ones who don't have plenty of miso opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:29 PM
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we can play this experiment in real life: hermione, errm, emma watson is the spokesmodel for feminism or something, and she gave a speech about just this - look at what she did. oh wait, she dropped her wispy intellectual guy and dated a rugby player.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:25 PM
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why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:22 PM
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they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:21 PM
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seems you've never been in geek culture. highest level girl is a 9, just like anywhere. she just happens to be weird and like lots of board games
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 02:56 AM
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the response to this might be 'presumed fatherhood', where any child conceived in wedlock is automatically your legal child. even if you were deployed at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:22 PM
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When did you ever hear the proper explanation for what's happened - that he changed into a beta under her influence and she's not attracted to him anymore? first on the onion. then, many years later, the red pill went into greater detail. At no point did anyone in the feminism or nerdlove camp ever come close to the real reason. they were instead overtly hostile to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:06 PM
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it won't. if she isn't hot for you, this pill won't change anything. Everything about seducing your wife properly still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:03 PM
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nah, i want her to acknowledge that she's getting interest, just not the kind she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 12:02 AM
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more than that - they don't realize they're there, or else that they're hitting on them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:46 PM
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legitimate and thorough there are studies, just ones you don't like. i don't want to get in a dickwar over whether study X is truthy enough. that's just a rabbithole
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:43 PM
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this is too funny. Says who? ... Athletes have status. Bill Gates isn't exactly jacked but he has a wife. I put it to you that status is a universally admired trait in humans regardless of your gender. you say that. you think men care a bunch about status, though - i'd fuck emma, but i wouldn't date her. she's a supermodel going all over the damn place - i'd have to be her boytoy or an a-list actor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:24 PM
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In men, a very small percentage, like 5-15% depending on age and where you live, spend a LOT on their appearance...they work out an hour or two a day, tan, spend effort on their hair, spend a lot of effort buying clothes and putting on outfits huh, TIL I'm in the 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:21 PM
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because the fraction doesn't vary all that much - if you cut out the bottom half and show the group of men to another bunch of women, you get the same distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:18 PM
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it's more the idea that they have a distorted view of what their partner should be and that most men can never measure up. Basically, be hot and dynamic and exciting while also a good provider and really into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 09:50 PM
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yep. she was painfully hot and also smart. And crazy as a shithouse rat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 04:15 AM
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All men are potential rapists. Women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 03:51 AM
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the feminists i've seen seem to assume it's an external cause - discouragement from men, usually. i hardly ever hear one say "gee, maybe girls don't want to do CS"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:27 AM
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i know some. they're by turns infuriating and amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:21 AM
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not really
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:19 AM
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Men and women are equal, and in an equal society they should enter these fields equally. No. Men and women are equal, but not the same. You can't make this logical jump. the point is that we can see that men and women are clearly not equal not the same. what's equal mean in this context? RP view that women are inherently wired to not go into STEM. Maybe they are bad at it, maybe they don't like it. Doesn't matter, but the idea is that women are just programmed not to like STEM. Problem is that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 06:18 AM
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because i'm angry and i didn't get it, and it's easier to direct anger outwards. there isn't logic here, it's just emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:07 PM
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i think it's way overblown and an attempt to lend legitimacy to what is in essence collected rules of thumb
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:51 PM
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hah, no. the whole hyper-sensitive thing is fairly recent and regional. i'm in seattle, where girls will almost never be up front about their disinterest, while in other places (DC or LA), they're happy to reject someone. This is, IMO, a result of the rape culture hysteria - tell someone for 3-5 years that they're in terrible danger of being drug into an alley and raped, they start to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:35 PM
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They also have weapons, and they use them. these days (not 1000 years ago), women can use violence with relative impunity - even getting a cop out to deal with her can be a chore. They can attack their fiance with a golf club and we'll make jokes about him. they've got a free pass, more or less. Yes, rape is much overstated, and the RP rape is exactly wrong - the whole sexual strategy in RP is about making women desire you so that you have choices between a handful of women. no rape, and you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:12 PM
4

so now it's get angry and blame others. no, still not entitled. actually thinking that you are owed sex from someone who didn't marry you is entitled. angry and blaming someone else is stupid and unproductive, but not entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:09 PM
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Which is why I'm guessing you went to an online forum to find ways to pick up women. well, i did, because doing it your way doesn't work. i met people who were cool, but not into me, because that's not what i pursued primarily. shocking!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:50 PM
1

oh yes the whole 'men are violent' thing. women are just as shitty as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:49 PM
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if you get angry when you don't get something, you are entitled bullshit. if you get angry at failure, you are human. there are 'entitled' attractive women who have no problem getting men, doesn't mean they don't have grave personality issues. such as? you haven't really unpacked 'entitled' beyond 'gets angry when they fail'. who cares if I get angry? I don't throw a tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:48 PM
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yeah, you think that common interests mean anything. god no - first you establish physical interest - do I want to fuck her rotten? - and THEN you look at common interests. going the other way gets you a friend you probably aren't into. if you're a reasonably attractive woman, men throw themselves at you and lie to get you naked. no idea how to deal with that, although maybe i should lie more...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:36 AM
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first link is a guy telling men to be the kind of guy they'd want their daughter to date. odd, but hardly awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:27 AM
1

that part is irritating. you say something about starting the relationship first and a rando chimes in about how her boyfriends were all friends first. maybe it's true, but she's one person. maybe it isn't and she just rationalized it. can't tell, and there's no point arguing it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:24 AM
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and the women accept said incompatible men on the basis of looks. you're telling men that they should focus on compatibility while telling women no such thing. why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:14 AM
1

based on what? I'm smart and I'd rather like a harem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:13 AM
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because women are any less shallow. right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 06:00 AM
9

increasing your ability to fulfill your entitlement if you want something and are able to get it, how are you entitled? not have to address underlying mental / personality issues if your personality isn't getting in the way of you getting women or whatever it is you want, what issues do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:54 AM
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which, really, isn't a bad thing. ZOMG, solving your own shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:47 AM
1

well, the tumblr feminists did, that's why it's so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 10:43 PM
0

nah, it's just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 07:57 PM
2

and they started #endfathersday as a hoax. that was hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 07:57 PM
2

and i've seen enough fat women in my area that i'm not about to get anywhere near. seriously, top 40% = not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:20 AM
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if i run into a woman who is past 30 and not fat, but still likes food, the odds are that she'll be far more pleasant than baseline because she's gotten into the habit of owning her own shit and not projecting it on others. fat is only the most obvious marker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:10 AM
1

Sure it does, but going Evo psychology on everything is just stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 04:36 PM
1

is it that important? RP aren't trying to convince anyone, only themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 06:25 AM
10

they go overboard on justifying shit with evo psych crap. it's fine to observe how people are and how they behave, but couching it in "the tribe way back when did it like this" is just silly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 06:42 PM
2

That's more about using the word loosely. Just because you aren't attracted doesn't make him a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:26 PM
3

It doesn't make sense to tell these guys that they shouldn't be seen as creepy by women. That they are doing fine and stuff. no, it makes sense to give advice. you really think that they'd be creepy if new what the fuck it was they were doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:17 AM
0

Many times I have seen MRAs talk about breaking the 'victim narrative' of feminists, and I take this to mean MRAs don't believe women's issues are a real problem no, it means breaking the narrative where victimhood is part of the female identity. really, that's what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:11 AM
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Do you have any statistics/sources yourself to back up your position that rape doesn't happen in the states? wow, you're not even trying
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:10 AM
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So you don't think that it's at all unfair that college guys can go on rampant drinking sprees and rape and pillage all they'd like how much does this actually happen? seems you're assuming a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:08 AM
1

if it's enough men that you can assume it to be true and mostly be right, then AMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:34 AM
1

so, you're going to tune your rejection to the small number of twerps that can't take a 'fuck off'? seriously? and then pick something weak sauce like 'I have a BF'. That doesn't even matter if she's into you - then it's down to your morals and whether the relationship is open.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:30 AM
0

and women are too weak to assert themselves, so they can't be expected to stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:22 PM
1

Mainsplaining is just a special case of a domineering attitude steamrolling an overly passive person. first case: he's presumptuous because you're asian and he thinks you're not qualified because of your squinty eyes. so be assertive. second case: nice shutdown. follow up by allowing him to supplicate by actually asking your question, then dismissing him. it's all power dynamics, and you're better served by learning how to play the game rather than whinging about mansplaining, vocal fry, 'just' …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:20 PM
1

Epicurean is recommending you lie about having a BF, and not just saying that you aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:15 PM
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don't do that. shit's too complicated these days, and half the women i know with BFs are poly or willing to cheat with the right guy. just say that you aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:14 PM
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well, usually they get iffy when you start with the duluth model and patriarchy and rape culture, which is all feminism talks about these days - with your thought experiment, that stuff isn't mentioned until after declaring them to be one. "you support equal rights, therefore the duluth model is a thing". conversely, I can object to that nonsense and get tarred as a knuckle dragger that wants women barefoot and pregnant. Critiques doesn't mean you don't still believe in the overarching ideology.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 07:09 PM
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oh, you're precious. I know some, and they're eyeballs deep in the screwed up worldview. they do shit like leaping from "I know more than you" => "no feminists have studied the subject"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:24 AM
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we can call it 'rage culture'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 11:42 PM
9

leave it alone, he's beyond hope
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 11:42 PM
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I love your attempts at dismissal. I learned more about the movement than you know, and it just meant i couldn't take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 11:42 PM
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no they are absolutely not. You don't get auto-added to an ideology. you can argue about the philosophy, and i'd agree on that, but we aren't talking about that. we're talking about the movement. Next time a woman tells you she is not a feminist. Ask her if she's willing to drop out of college, and or quit her job so that a man can take her place. don't pretend that this is the same thing as opposing the current version. you keep confusing the specific objections for a general rejection of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:20 PM
1

I was just using it as an example of a bad decision it isn't even that. it's a decision whether to join a group. And further down, you think feminism is off the reservation anyway. what's your position anyway? That spells doom for us as a movement. i'd say it was doomed when it started pushing ideology like the duluth model and attempting to suppress evidence that contradicted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:06 PM
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the point i'm making is that it isn't a reasonable comparison. seriously, you're saying that not being a feminist is an ethical lapse - see how that might polarize people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 07:48 PM
1

Got a pretty good idea. I haven't been that close, but it was still obviously wrong to my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 04:27 PM
1

probably not, because the guy would've let him drink. 5 minutes = flushed and no sweat, which is damn weird in the heat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:50 AM
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maybe she is that stupid. when you're on the verge of passing out, you look absolutely awful. And maybe he's bitter about women because of hist treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 11:00 PM
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no, her being hostile to someone i distress makes her a cunt. you can refuse without being an asshole. not really sure where the felony comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:06 PM
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did you just liken not declaring yourself as a feminist with cheating on your husband? really? and since when should I expect judgment for not following a movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:28 PM
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you look at how he treats people he isn't interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:12 PM
1

depends. if you say that it's objectifying to pay attention to a girl mainly because you're attracted, then objectification is no big thing. if you decide that she's got value only for her looks, then there's a problem. or you need to find better women. you seem to be looking at the first case, and if i'm at a bar, that's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:10 PM
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he did know, did communicate, was nice, and she was a cunt. go read it - "i'm dizzy, can i please have some water?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 11:05 PM
1

eh, i go to both places. i get far less blowback than i really expect when i go there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 06:31 PM
1

porn shows girls who are usually around a 7 or 8. i remember the girls in my hs geing hotter than porn stars, and the ones i flirt with these days are still hotter than most porn stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 06:28 PM
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I can buy a ticket to amsterdam and go fuck some whores who are paid to fuck me. I can also work on game and being attractive and get a girl who actually wants my cock, and it'll cost less too. you can't sit around just hoping and complaining that you're not getting anything. you know, nobody is seriously suggesting that. they're talking about wanting sex with no discussion about how they pursue it. edit: going to amsterdam for the purposes of fucking a whore is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 06:19 PM
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I'd say that if I were running a multiple year dry spell, couching traditional masculinity as toxic isn't likely to get me on board. Especially when it's clear that this is attractive to a lot of women. It's not that feminism is particularly bad, it's that my goal is sex and intimacy and feminism doesn't advance me to that goal (and i find the ones who play that game distasteful).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 06:15 PM
1

first 3 are RP advice. 4 is kind of stupid - starting something with someone I'm not into is just a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:58 AM
1

you know Sloanas isn't a feminist, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:57 AM
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He sounds entitled and irrational. it's almost as if heat stroke is dangerous and worth violating a social norm to resolve quickly. seriously, you just called someone 5 minutes short of passing out entitled for attempting to not die.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 02:56 AM
1

low functioning is commonly used to refer to autistics. regardless, the point here is that you address those gaps before putting serious effort into helping others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 07:36 PM
2

you labeled the NOW as extremists. you see how that's a problem, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 06:01 PM
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sorry, they're all feminists. feminism doesn't really have an entry requirement, and you don't get to write off the NOW as not feminist because you don't agree with their actions, then crow about what real feminists want. that makes no sense - your notion of what a feminist is has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 05:27 PM
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hate to break it to you, but that's the NOW. Are they now not really feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 05:11 PM
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Pfft, real feminists also fight against shared custody and paint men as rapists. he for she is just feel good and content free
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:33 PM
2

Now it's high functioning. Maybe use a different phrase
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:30 PM
1

You mean ending injustice? Don't compare third wave feminism with king and company
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 04:29 PM
1

people with the above mindset are not well liked. you take care of yourself first. why are you going to spend a ton of effort on others when you have serious gaps at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 07:35 AM
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how many people are giving you shit for not supporting the salvation army?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 07:33 AM
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why should you bother with feminism if it provides no benefit? sure, the base assumptions are reasonable - equal treatment in jobs and general social situations - but feminism is about making things better for women. it isn't targeted at men. Why would anyone expect them to flock to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 07:32 AM
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i said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:32 AM
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because it isn't sexual. it's more than platonic, less than sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 11:22 PM
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it's not sexual. seriously, there's a middle ground between "hi" and "I want to bend you over and shove my dick in your ass"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 11:03 PM
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it is not a fact, it is your interpretation. my interpretation is that he obviously wants more than to say that, but this gives her the option to stop and talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:57 PM
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no, you're stating your preferences. this isn't a factual statement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:51 PM
1

i think you've got your meter set too sensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 05:25 PM
1

Complimenting your clothes isn't sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:26 PM
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yeah. you're defining your own reality according to somewhat arbitrary standards and expecting the rest of us to follow along. The point here is that they have to try, and will often get rebuffed, because nobody wears that shit on their sleeve. Btw, no, saying "you look fine today" or other random reasonable comment is not cat calling. I mean really, is this you trying to demonize men for showing interest when you aren't interested. it's annoying, sure, but cat calling is way overboard
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:25 AM
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does this mean she can bathe in male tears any more?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:06 AM
1

most of that shit isn't cat calling. it's flirtation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:06 AM
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because they like the particular man and enjoy the validation. the trick is that you don't know ahead of time if you are one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:11 AM
-1

so, you made a friend. how about guys who like you the other way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:09 AM
2

what's that got to do with anything? BBT doesn't have realistic nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:50 AM
1

totally. especially sailor moon - how is that at all aimed at men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:49 AM
2

wait, her superpower is bulimia?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:48 AM
1

he's saying that PUAHate isn't a RP site
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:43 AM
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SB Shooter was a member of PUAHate - guessing he'd hate RP too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:42 AM
-1

let's put this in perspective - 50 shades sold roughly double the combined sales of all harry potter books.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:26 PM
3

not very far. it's mostly snake oil
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 11:19 PM
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nobody's being a dick to them personally, they're discussing people in general and some of the people under discussion show up and read the conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 11:17 PM
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he's an idiot. golf clubs are really good at blunt trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 04:29 PM
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nah, they prefer tools
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 04:28 PM
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so, women are harmless and not to be taken seriously, like children?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:19 AM
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who cares? they can both kill you if they're at all competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:16 AM
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it's a shitty analogy, since dating guides can't really do that - they can advise you to present yourself in one way or another, but a whole personality? bullshit. we could go and talk about how you never see the real person anyway and instead only see masks, but now we're into philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:15 AM
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yeah, it's basically an opener - we have something in common, maybe you'll tell me what you're after.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:58 PM
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Well, I did find the whole quote, it was a conference about women in science, he got laughs. You really think he's that stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:39 PM
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actually, that's a RP truth. They phrase it as a balance of the tingles and the provider role, but it's the same damn thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:59 PM
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how exactly does that matter? I can have personality, but if i can't get the girl in the first place, keeping her is academic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:58 PM
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First I was creep shamed. Maybe I crossed some lines, live and learn right? Then you tame down your approach. "Oh you need to be more confident." been there. my favorite is being creep shamed, then having other girls basically come on to me over the exact same behavior. so, i no longer care - if a girl is so socially off that she can't see that jacking a guy off is a very strong show of interest, she's off her nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:57 PM
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that's kind of the point of a neg - it's playful and can be taken both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:44 PM
1

I had a few men use PUA on me and I knew what they were doing. Now whenever he do anything the guide will be in the back of my mind. I would talk to him about it and what his motivation was. see, this is you shutting someone down for doing it poorly. Just say that you agree with that and we're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:42 PM
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have i decided to be attracted to a girl my lizard brain didn't like and had it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:41 PM
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Even if there are massive boons for women to get in STEM, there is still some vestige of manboy clubs that women - who want to go in a highly stressful areas - simply cannot handle. For example, look at what Tim Hunt said. wow, you're retarded. You think Hunt was mocking women. It helps that they only show the first half of the quote, which is intended to be humorous. They left out the second half which clearly puts the whole thing in context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:39 PM
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yeah, but in what context are you asking about his motivation? someone approaching you at a bar? because that's a guaranteed moodkiller. someone you already know and are dating? After prior experiences, i'd dump you for it. you're taking things from a romantic context to something clinical because the guy isn't natural enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:28 PM
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nah, it was a full on riot, barring the doors, shouting down the speaker, setting off fire alarms. basically, the work of terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:26 PM
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blaming the ones that can be traced to specific actions of feminists on feminists is absolutely correct
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:23 PM
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They waive your fees and put you on a higher starting salary as an incentive. That's weak sauce. i'd have to be an idiot to teach high school. one rumour and my career is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:21 PM
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if you say that, it will kill any mood. seriously, if I start talking to you and you start analyzing it instead of participating in the conversation, I'm going to think you're some sort of martian. so, are you going to find out where he's coming from or just dump him? can't do both, and you seem stuck on the fantasy of naturally smooth men wanting to build a life with you. That's simply not real, unless you've got something serious going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:17 PM
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so, why didn't you just seduce them yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:14 PM
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everything is a lie? you mean the approach is a lie - "i didn't wake up one day knowing how to talk your panties off". the dude is still well read and, should you turn sour because he used PUA stuff as training wheels, he will toss you aside if he has self respect. I disapprove of telling people to be someone completely different from who they are. funny, this actually pisses me off. I'm most of the things in OP's post, but i suck at the initial stages of seduction - keep getting girls who think…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:12 PM
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I would talk to him about it and what his motivation was. this is intended to shut him down cold, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:06 PM
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supposing that the guy had all those interests, but used the dating guid to determine how best to present himself, how to approach you, and how to deal with conflicts/shit tests in the course of the relationship. What then? Dude is still witty and well read, and who cares if he learned cool sex moves from a guide? he still does them just right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 08:00 PM
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have for what purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:46 PM
1

i find that RP explains quite a bit more about people's behavior than what came. Further, I find that the advice they provide is actionable and effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:25 AM
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That's fine, it's an ideology and everyone has one, but it's not sufficient as evidence to back claims about biological nature of human beings as dictated by sex. Well, firstly, the notion that we are animals with a thin veneer of rationality applied on top is hardly groundbreaking, and secondly, they don't need to convince you, they only need to be good enough to inform personal choices. Seeing those choices (consistent with RP ideas) work better than anything you've ever tried before is a pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 02:35 AM
-1

wow, dude, you just won't shut up, will you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 02:24 AM
0

if a snake bit you, would you spend your life resenting that snake, snakes? i'd certainly avoid that snake
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 02:16 AM
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okay, fine. do it in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:24 AM
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yup. forget loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:18 AM
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hardly. it only blows the theory if that's true often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:03 AM
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2) more partners can also mean more desirable - depends on the partner. 3) not really. it just doesn't follow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:02 AM
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good for you. this study doesn't cover them, and the people there most likely look different at 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 11:54 PM
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you make it sound like there's a strategy at all. people want what they want and it works enough to keep going. whatever works is good enough and probably fairly close to ideal (but no promises). That said, who cares about the third world? We're in the first world, and a 13 year old may look like an 18 year old there (or better). socially, you don't touch them, but you still find them attractive, and that's just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 11:43 PM
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you can point out holes in the theory (and there are plenty) without resorting to the tired old cliches they've already seen 100 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 11:39 PM
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nah, RP is explicitly anti-proselytization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 06:22 PM
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not surprising, given that TRP focuses on sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 06:51 AM
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+1 for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 04:15 AM
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If we factor out sex, guys are just easier to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:31 AM
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the biological imperative to persist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:47 AM
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of course it did. I can technically fuck a guy, but i don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 01:46 AM
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men don't turn me on. it'd be simpler if they did
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:45 AM
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because a family means some of you lives on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:44 AM
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look at it this way: if a woman isn't offering sex, then most of the other things are available more easily from a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:42 AM
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yup. had a big throwdown yesterday on Askmen (the nice guy thread) where it's apparently doctrine that nice guys following the wrong script are misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:38 AM
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your views are generally shaped by how you were raised. GP post was raised by a harpie from hell, and he got to see how she was supported by the system at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:35 AM
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Conspiracy theories? The fact that divorce court is heavily biased towards women isn't even controversial - that part of the rant was completely reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:34 AM
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Also you mean to tell me that you can't imagine that there is support for men out there? pretty sure there isn't. Otherwise, we'd have a substantially lower suicide risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:29 AM
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red piller who can kill any untrained fighter regardless of weight and height this part isn't much of a stretch; I'd give myself 4:1 odds against anyone with the caveat that they are untrained and it's a fair fight (which is something you avoid if you're really fighting).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:07 AM
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Truth there. Btw, the second sex was translated terribly for many decades; if you want to actually read it, you have to learn french.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 02:36 AM
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This is my chief gripe with all the feminists I've met: if i disagree with their dogma, it's a result of my ignorance. There's no room for simple dissent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 02:34 AM
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And that they don't know anything about what men want. but not that they want to fuck men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 09:41 PM
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Those "nice girls" may not be sluts, but if you look at the men they date, and the ones they ignore or use, they fall right into the pattern. They just don't have sex with them. confirmed. I know girl (friend's ex) who basically was the ultraconservative nice christian girl (until he got ahold of her). Yep, she uses guys and recognizes the status she gets for being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 09:28 PM
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While, just like men, women are complex humans capable of emotions, feelings, compassion, empathy etc. and disturbingly fungible. men and women both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 09:19 PM
1

race traitor refers to people who married outside their race; they were stuck in prisons and camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 04:15 PM
1

heh, elsewhere, I have some guy rip into me today because I noticed that Watson's he for she speech was completely at odds with her behavior IRL. Apparently, I'm bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 12:03 AM
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you know, i hate that term (for the obvious reasons), but damn does it fit in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 12:01 AM
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I am saying that v1 feminism is a pretty good idea - women can vote and have real jobs. that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 03:42 PM
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But apparently it has some kind of 'clean up gaming' purpose or something? the GG guys are largely pissed about the pervasive corruption on the industry press. Except that's the part where I got lost--like she's supposedly RUNNING gaming journalism. that's fair. the whole thing is a steaming mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:03 AM
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yeah, i know. and foucalt and his garbage led to the underpinnings of Privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 11:59 PM
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3rd wave rape culture and patriarchy. should be pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 10:24 PM
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why, are you suggesting that the current mess isn't a recapitulation of class struggle?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 10:03 PM
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that whole thing just confirms what we already knew. don't pretend that this is the first time it's come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:41 PM
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no, it's a shorthand that pokes fun at the current batch of feminists for using retreaded marxist ideology and not realizing it. it's really damn obvious, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:37 PM
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the viewpoint that feminism is bad is an old-fashioned ignorance that will leave with time nobody is saying that feminism is bad. they're saying that the radfems are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:36 PM
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maybe you should ease off - this is a discussion of broad social trends, not a building design. there will be different standards of what we can reasonably prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:31 PM
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there's ZQ's ex, who spewed a bunch of bullshit about her screwing other guys - this is being spun into him trying to own her, or control her sexuality. That's what the anti-GG people are presenting as the main story. ZQ's ex is alleging that ZQ got her horrid game good reviews via fucking, but the dates don't quite line up. still, it's a horrid game. Sarkeesian, at about the same time, published a series of youtube videos about how women are represented in video games as props/tools to engage t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 09:26 PM
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I'm guessing you haven't paid it much attention, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 08:57 PM
5

They don't get any romantic attention, but that's different than saying people "despise" them. how about "they don't exist as men in the eyes of the women they're interested in"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 08:53 PM
2

how about this: there's a whole bunch of women who are trying to make their real life as cool as they think the average mans' life is (which happens to be the sort of man they all want to date).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 08:41 PM
1

Nah, we're all 114
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 08:32 PM
5

male, 18-34 as of a few years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 05:01 PM
2

it gets rid of the news? why are you posting bare youtube links and expecting people to listen to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 04:56 PM
2

you're on a text forum. post some actual text.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 04:54 PM
2

and on a debate sub no less :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 12:44 AM
2

:) i do love bowie, but i liked him better on the blue jean video
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 12:29 AM
2

ooh, del toro rocks my socks!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 12:19 AM
2

too bad i'm blond and in an undisclosed location - i hit all those other 'unicorn' bits. got the horn and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:59 PM
0

ah, that sense of humor thing - so hard to convey a sly grin over text ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:57 PM
2

it's family court - expect them to not get alimony because they're men, and if they do, there will be far less enforcement of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 08:10 PM
5

Maybe it was casual sex for those previous people and now she wants something serious ah yes, the whole "you're important to me, so i'll make you work for it". sorry, no, if i'm that important, then fuck me now and plan dates later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:29 PM
2

nah, if it's gotten to that point, she isn't into you and you shouldn't stick around
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:27 PM
2

She fucked a bunch of guys, then made you wait. She isn't that attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:04 PM
7

Based on what? Near as I can tell, they'll just marry less
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 03:59 PM
6

nah, rape is usually about sex. rape that's about power is rape to establish dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:18 AM
1

disagree. alpha means that you a: have options and b: can elicit desire. you can be dominant and get them to beg for it, while betas generally can't - they aren't alluring, because beta behaviors simply don't inspire lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:17 AM
2

right, but they aren't shaming anyone. they're exercising choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:05 PM
2

that's fine. go be promiscuous. if you go looking for LTRs later, some of the men will not be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:50 PM
3

if you choose to define it that way, then fine. who cares? if they're less valuable as LTR candidates, that's just how it is. if they feel shame because fewer people want them for the long term, that's something they have to deal with on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:04 PM
7

you've almost got it - you're choosing to be promiscuous and you have the ability with men you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:02 PM
6

when you don't tell someone to their face that they're a bad person for being promiscuous, but that you aren't interested in a LTR, that isn't shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:36 PM
1

reminds me of the line is sometimes trot out when i want to start a fight: "nobody hates women as much as a feminist"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:22 PM
7

quoting you: Sexual strategy is now based around romantic relationships. no, it really isn't. it's based on lust until you can't get the lust. or it's romantic relationships formed in the early 20s - the 'traditional' model.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:18 PM
5

hell, I know a cute blonde chick who is decidedly anti-kids. she fits the 'gay guy' model if dating fairly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:17 PM
21

Human personality is comprised of equal parts nature and nurture can you support this? Gender is a cultural concept, often defined by institutions oh look, gender as social construct. why don't you support that as well? Most people enjoy and want sex. are you suggesting that someone disagrees with this? The feminist movement changed the institution of marriage from an economic arrangement based around producing children to an agreement based on mutual love and respect. when did that happen, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:15 PM
2

I'm tired of citing studies for things that are already confirmed by my experience. Don't care if you believe me, it's enough for me to make choices on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 02:22 PM
7

no, the women would fuck the 20% more, or just abstain completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:37 AM
8

jesus, do some research instead of demanding tons of work from others. it's fairly established that a small number of guys get all the pussy they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:36 AM
9

no, it makes wifing a decidedly higher risk. you can still be a top notch professional, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:34 AM
2

um, he made a business on extortion. not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:47 AM
2

apparently, you picking fights in a forum you moderate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:30 AM
1

i like it over here, where hostility isn't a shooting offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:29 AM
1

where do you get the idea that Solanas was ever a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 12:16 AM
2

I'd date her if I got royalties on the song she writes about it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:17 PM
2

isn't that the whole point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 07:13 PM
2

let's not look at 50 shades for anything. dear god, that's a whole bucket of crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 04:50 AM
2

Who gives a fuck? The question is without value. Men like younger women. this is not negotiable. in no world will you get a significant number of them to stop pursuing these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 04:48 AM
3

Seriously, can you be that boring of a person where ALL YOU DO IS WATCH NETFLIX AND EAT JUNKFOOD?! dear god, the last woman who initiated with me on okc was like this. cute, probably professional, but boring as fuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 04:42 AM
3

depends on the person. they say that those women are a bad bet for LTR, but what if you don't want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 04:34 AM
1

making you uncomfortable when hitting on you is pretty much the definition of creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 04:33 AM
2

well, they go looking for the motherly love, and that isn't on the menu, so some of them take it too far. i can slow down if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 02:32 AM
2

i'd say that the love from a mother to a child is usually unconditional, and it's the sort of love that a lot of men go looking for from other women. So, they get disillusioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 02:13 AM
3

you know, it just might be deliberate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:27 PM
2

Would you believe the daughter you raise or your own mother was incapable of love? I believe the line is that she only loves her children unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 09:18 PM
2

space cadet. she's spouting a tonne of bullshit and doesn't even know it. Now, if she had spent one iota of effort on describing why they're sexy to her, i might believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 09:15 PM
1

you're letting the TV tell you what to think. you can stop doing that and become a real person, or keep on doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 09:09 PM
1

People are entitled to voice their opinions where ever they want. no, they really aren't. you aren't guaranteed a soapbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:54 PM
1

society and the media portrays why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:43 PM
2

sucks to be you, letting some boob tube dictate your reality. change that, or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:43 PM
2

nope, if i turn up the asshole, i get more interest. no idea what the hell you mean by 'rapey'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:41 PM
2

is this your response to the notion that men need it more?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:39 PM
2

that's the point: if all this crap is cultural, why the hell would there ever be gay people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 04:11 PM
1

Heh, ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 05:36 AM
1

observation, refinement of process and hypothesis based on same. that's all there is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:36 AM
2

hell, where do gay people come from? there were gay people back when that meant getting drug out of bars and arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:25 AM
1

congratulations, RP methods aren't useful in a trial, or for peer reviewed research. so what? nobody is claiming that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:23 AM
1

it's science with a lower standard of proof. same basic methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:22 AM
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well, firstly, patriarchy is a silly concept and i shan't entertain it. secondly, we're talking about society lying to men and the bit about how society mostly sees men as resources to exploit. it gives no fucks about their happiness. that's the discussion. you can flip the gender and get similar results. this part: Of course men want to keep the status quo. is a complete non sequitor - you've ignored the content of the thread in favor of your notion that only women are expected to serve others …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 03:19 AM
2

dafuq did this come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:02 AM
2

well, this time it's more "You're incoherent, i can't follow your reasoning"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 01:56 AM
3

you said: Maybe clubs and raves don't really represent the best demographic of people? I said that it holds true outside of that. then you said i was only looking at hot girls. then i said that the other girls would do the same thing if they could manage it. simple, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:28 PM
1

you're delusional. the RP view meshes more with my experience than anything you've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:27 PM
1

what does that gain them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:19 PM
3

you're as loyal as your options - most of the girls you're whining about (not hot) would behave exactly like the hot girls if they could get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:04 PM
1

ok, we've reduced your objection to NAWALT. i think we're done here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:58 PM
2

so you're saying that the hot girls say the polite thing about 'nice guys' that they're supposed to want while blowing drug dealers in the back of the club, while the ugly ones settle for those guys because they can't get attention from the same hot guys they also want?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:52 PM
1

uh, the whole point of this thread is that she's lying about that and it's irritating at best. that's the complaint. I have a right to be annoyed about some lying sack of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:35 PM
1

because it's deceitful and some people are stupid enough to take them at their word?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:25 PM
4

women aren't doing that. When you hear them "asking for one thing" you don't know what they actually want. sure you do: just look at the choices they make. they say one thing, do another, and then get huffy when you call them out. They're allowed to fuck who they want, oh, will you shut the fuck up already? nobody is trying to control their vag, just complaining about the rather large gap between what they say and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:16 PM
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what if i told you that the complaint was that they are asking for one thing and pursuing another? would you shut up? because this is what everyone is saying and what you keep ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:33 PM
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are you stupid or just trolling? The statement is "I want a sweet, sensitive guy", not "I want a hot, dangerous man who's nice to me"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:22 PM
1

who's even talking about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:20 PM
3

doesn't matter; i get the same thing with people outside the rave scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:19 PM
2

who cares? If i wanted to be her friend, i'd pursue friendship, not a romantic thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 03:08 AM
1

m'bleh /tips servitor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 02:38 AM
1

because some guys think that you can change a no to a yes by being cool and building rapport; it's sort of true, but on a much shorter timescale - if you haven't had much success, you may have no idea about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:46 AM
2

maybe she could get a backbone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:25 AM
2

shouldn't people in general stop condemning feminism for the actions of a few misandrists who are holding the movement captive? that isn't the same logic - those people are driving the movement. They are the movement. All the other feminists are along for the ride. TRP suffers from parallel problems feminism does Nah, Feminism got hijacked by lunatics. TRP is usually painted as a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:25 AM
3

nice bragsplain
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:21 AM
1

sorry, must have missed that part
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 07:26 PM
3

RP theory is that transexuals are outside the scope of what they discuss. As an aside, the RP discussion that touches on trans issues seems to be sympathetic, or else points to it as an indictment of the gender as social construct thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 07:38 AM
1

no they weren't. usually, they were allowed to escape before killing the boys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:56 AM
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the point being that they did this for over a year and nobody cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:55 AM
2

that's hilarious. what actually happened was the labor movement and collective action that scared the rich into concessions. not before calling in the army, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:31 AM
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more like, they're the men, and everyone else is neuter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:28 AM
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it's more than that - you get grants that make it cheaper if you're a STEM major and a woman, and extra support in academics. My take is that women who can do the work probably have better options elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 12:49 AM
1

no, he's saying that it is used as a construct to cast contrary opinions as defacto wrong and avoid discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:21 PM
1

of course not. it isn't required, so most of them don't
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:19 PM
2

you know, if it just stopped at awkward and clingy, i'd be fine with it. i've been there. it's the need to vilify them as a group that pisses me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:16 PM
-1

But this is also used as a blanket term for girls who just pissed the guy off, or happened to show emotions, etc. no, it's usually someone who's legit crazy - edits their past, cuts casually, multiple stays in the boobyhatch, that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:50 PM
1

seems the exercise is overly limited; i'd prefer the RP/FA/get a pet choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:35 AM
2

it is usually known under its fallacious form, in which a person asserts that some event must inevitably follow from another without any rational argument or demonstrable mechanism for the inevitability of the event in question." I didn't say inevitable, and the rational argument is that they want to make this the legal standard, so they start with students. starting young is a proven strategy in itself. To form a logical argument, you need evidence that people are pushing the agenda. one millio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:20 PM
1

But why? That system would be extremely costly for the college. Education is expensive enough as is. so how about we refer this stuff to the cops. they're set up to deal with it already. Why does it matter? If someone interprets findings based on preponderance of the evidence as guilt, they're retarded. because he is still screwed, and now he's heavily impacted by the results. Well that's a university's prerogative. They can accept or reject whoever they like. nice way to sidestep this. why shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:04 PM
2

Where are the people saying they want to change the constitution to omit rape charges from reasonable doubt requirements? you don't get that until they're well into the strategy. they say "it's only this", then come back and go for a little more. why are you demanding proof for every instance instead of recognizing an effective strategy? Civil punishment. Civil punishment has existed for centuries. yup. maybe civil commitment - he appears to be overly aggressive towards women. commit him for a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:02 PM
1

Women are looking for a man who's honest and trustworthy and polite. Tell me about how this is a fallacy borne out of wishful thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:59 PM
1

You can call anything a cult true. RP doesn't make anything like an effort to keep you in the fold. Cult is a really huge stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:55 PM
1

there's the other part: if all you do is get laid, you'll still feel like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:47 PM
1

just because it isn't labeled as such doesn't make me wrong. the fact that practicing it can get you tossed in jail should be proof enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 10:38 PM
1

still splitting hairs. i'm sure that you'd feel better sitting in prison knowing that you weren't convicted of BDSM specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:51 PM
1

you are also risking a conviction, because people disapprove of it. so, are we arguing that it isn't illegal, but you might end up in prison anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:24 PM
1

i just picked something from google; considering that she was quite happy about it after the fact, i'll go with it being illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:17 PM
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By definition, whatever policy the college employs is due process. no it isn't. it's 'process'. really, you're lawyering, while I'm arguing that you have the right to something akin to the legal protections you enjoy in real life - knowing the charges, counsel, cross examination, etc. it's either that or the college should be barred from mentioning anything about why you left. As it stands, a single accusation can leave a black mark for life (no, most colleges won't accept you after being expell…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:11 PM
2

1996
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:08 PM
2

slippery slope is a strategy: simple example is seat belt laws. they were optional, then required, then they added click it tickets, but only as a secondary thing, now they're primary. You cannot be convicted of a crime unless you are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. right, so sidestep it with 'civil punishments' where it isn't criminal, but we've determined that we need to track you for the safety of others. really, the c'ton doesn't get much respect these days
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:06 PM
1

because the default position is to snicker at them. the wife has presumably demonstrated that she's worth his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:03 PM
1

speaking as a guy, there's a level of woman beyond which I'll choose being single and having a dog. so, this is a valid response: leave the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:01 PM
2

BDSM has always been ambiguous or explicitly illegal. there's more than one reason why people used to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:55 PM
1

People don't have a right to go to college. you have a right to due process in this situation. you're already in college and accused of something nasty. tell me you should just accept the ride out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:54 PM
2

the expectation is that they'll push to make it the legal standard in 4 or 5 years (maybe 10) after we get enough kids used to it via college.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:52 PM
1

that takes 5 minutes, not several dates. you can establish the interest in the first couple dates and go from there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 06:29 AM
1

he wasn't particularly coherent
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 06:27 AM
1

so you think chiros are charlatans. have a gold star - i found them very helpful for dealing with back issues. meanwhile, the orthopod i saw gave me a script and a boot out the door. meanwhile, TRP has fairly effective advice and encourages you to look at what works; what exactly is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 12:05 AM
2

speaking of taylor swift, the I Prevail cover of that song was hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:58 PM
2

the only thing that's surprising about 100 men out of 120 men fucking is that 85% of the men are fucking or have fucked someone on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:32 PM
3

"When did you stop beating your wife?" when we're done. She seems to like it, but my arm gets tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:31 PM
2

quiet, you. i'll have you know we have real beer in this country
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:29 PM
1

they'll just say that the rate for that is 2% and to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:25 PM
3

what if you didn't know everything and had to err on the side of liberty?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:25 PM
1

who cares? even when you adjust for that (in a sane way, not a goal seeking way), it's still way under the 1 in 4 thing. i'd believe something under 1%/year if you include marginal stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:24 PM
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hah, no. i'm a guy and i want to get to know the girl first. however, that leads to her thinking i'm a friend. so, i fuck her and then see if i like her as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:17 PM
1

sorry, only made it to 15 seconds, then started giggling like a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:05 PM
3

What if I told you that women want children BEFORE they turn 35 I'd tell you that some of them don't, but damn if it isn't easier to do at 28 than 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:02 PM
3

lulz. Most of the anger on that reddit is noobs who are working through their anger and disillusionment. Duh they aren't alpha, they're new to the idea of investing in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 10:01 PM
0

no, opinions (and consensus) have meaning. They're just trumped by a solid study or 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:11 PM
1

The other thing that damaged me was that my father worked a lot in a high pressure environment, so when he was not working, he liked to be totally relaxed and a bit of a clown. My mother constantly belittled him for this kind of behaviour and eventually, she started to belittle any sort of similar behaviour in either me or my brother, so we both became perfectionists and control freaks, slaves of "what may other people think" and unable to have any fun. wow, did she ever clue into the irony?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:00 PM
1

I repeat "abundance mentality" is about how many people desire you. sort of. it's about your expectation of having other options. That makes you less needy and more attractive as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:57 PM
7

i get a deeper connection and lack of drama from my guy friends. Maybe i just attract low quality women, but they tend to be demanding of me 'opening up' and generally shitty when that doesn't work; conversely, i can say shit to the men i know and expect reasonable reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:55 PM
1

You sure? "I'm sorry" usually indicates an apology. english may not be your first language. he was using "I'm sorry" to ask for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:24 PM
1

or, you know, there's a middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:22 PM
1

why would you fill out a survey about sexual assault when it isn't something you've experienced or worried about? sandman is right to question the sampling method.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:19 PM
1

no, it doesn't count male rape. read it against the situation where a woman forces herself on a man - that's not rape by this definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:18 PM
1

we keep importing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:17 PM
1

dunno, but it really took off about 2 years ago. last time i checked, the rate was around 118 per 100k in the area i live in, which isn't all that much. it's dwarfed by the usual things - larceny and assault
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 10:14 PM
1

social skills? that's part of what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 04:10 PM
1

who is successful without being particular good looking, witty, or rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:13 AM
3

The general concensus of TRP seems to be that if a guy is successful with women, he is either a Dark Triad/Alpha male, highly attractive or socially/financially successful. no, it is that DT is an effective strategy, and that markers of success help a lot. I'd agree insofar as it's really hard to be successful with women without some mix of social skills and beauty, though. However, it stops making sense once one takes into account the number of guys who aren't like that, yet are still successfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 06:30 AM
1

maybe it's racist. i don't care - you like what you like, and it simply doesn't matter enough to justify action or even strong words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 06:26 AM
1

Those aren't real men. yes they are real men. men will fuck more girls than they will commit to. women date up, men across and down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 06:23 AM
1

so... if your partner was into that, would you turn them down just because? i'm guessing no, or at least not all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 07:06 AM
7

she likes it just fine, but not with me. out the door i go.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:52 AM
3

it's possible, but hardly likely. I'd run.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:51 AM
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we aren't talking about you experimenting. if you had done it enthusiastically for 3 years, then won't let your hubby in the back door, there's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:51 AM
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can't think of a sex thing that i've gotten tired of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:50 AM
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the thing you miss is that the hormones that make a male brain don't always fire the right way, while still giving her/him genitals. what do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:50 AM
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what if my partner was into opera and i thought it was boring? what if she liked being beaten or set on fire and i was meh about it for its own sake?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:27 AM
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not like that they don't, and people generally don't shift much at all after maturity, unless they exert serious effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:26 AM
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the fundamental thing you're missing is that they aren't men. they're women with male bodies. if you deny that precept, there's no point in discussing followon issues
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:25 AM
3

what's that got to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:19 AM
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it's possible she doesn't like to do them anymore this is an utterly alien concept. why would you 'not like that anymore'?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:18 AM
2

well that's just not going to happen most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:17 AM
11

i do things i don't like for partners because i like them being happy. i expect similar accommodation from them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:16 AM
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BUT, she did perform these sexual acts with previous males she has had sex with, does this mean the female is not truly attracted to her husband or boyfriend? if it's a one off thing, no problem. if she did all manner of perversion, then refuses to do anything interesting with her lifemate, then no she isn't attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:16 AM
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fuck those girls - they're fighting over 10% of the male body and bitching that there aren't enough men around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 07:33 AM
2

re-rephrased because i'm a twisted fuck: aside from sex, what do you offer a potential mate? preferably something they can't get more easily from a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 07:26 AM
1

the Aussie accent might help you get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 05:25 AM
1

the second one tends to work better outside AU
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 04:57 AM
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i assume they've got some warped notion of how relationships start
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 04:56 AM
2

Schopenhauer was a raging cunt. if you want RP, maybe look at Kant?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 04:01 AM
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My problem with this is the assumption that the guy a woman eventually marries is not who she really wants, that she's settling for someone considerably less hot and interesting than she'd prefer. How do you know this? well, that is the main problem. if they aren't alpha widows, then they just fucked around. but if they're still hung up on the hot guy from 5 years ago, then you've got problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:39 AM
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my limited experience (due to difficulty finding women in the first place, never mind ones that are qualified) is that they're coddled - if anything they have to prove that they aren't a diversity hire. For instance, I graduated a university years ago where they had a rather severe gender ratio (5:1 or so). the year i left, i heard through the grapevine that they were now accepting all women who applied. if you had tits, you got in. Naturally, the women who were already there were pissed as hell…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:23 AM
1

What do you mean it isn't hard to be a guy in tech?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:10 AM
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Girls should be pushed to do better in math and science and boys in English and humanities. you can try that, and it might work, but probably not. Also, each field would have to be de-stigmatized. It's hard for a woman in tech, i rather doubt that, at least compared to being a guy in tech. You say it's being done in Norway, but for how long? probably 20 years. you'd expect some movement by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:00 AM
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AF study, but i'm sure you don't believe that one. There's another UK crime study where 10% were verifiable false, 30% (including the first 10) where probably nothing happened, a third where probably a crime happened, and 10% where it was considered enough to prosecute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 10:42 PM
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this is already done in norway - good schools, equal access, and 90% male engineers. Where a girl who would have otherwise not been comfortable enough to go into CS nope. what's wrong with 'not interested'? Why would it be a bad thing for more women to pursue CS and more men to pursue healthcare if they are equally qualified? it isn't, but if they don't want to, why force them? I don't understand why you are pushing so hard against this. you're saying that we should force women into these fields…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 10:33 PM
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You've gone on and on about how I've done a terrible job that's enough. your claims are baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 10:30 PM
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it's estimated at 25-40%. 1% is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 10:30 PM
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Diversity already go that. there's more to diversity than filling an EEOC checklist. Also, it's not my job to go try something new so you can say you've got a male nurse. As far as pushing kids in school, most kids are lazy and unless they are pushed, they will under preform. separate issue. demand performance of them, let them pick their majors and career. If my son grows up and is struggling in English class but is doing awesome in math, I'm going to be pushing him to do better in English and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:31 PM
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if men are biologically better at math and women are biologically better at language and interpersonal relations, push them harder in the opposite direction so that they are more well rounded. why? what is the basis for this goal to make men be nurses and women CS workers? Why would it be bad to push people to be better in all areas? it's bad to push people at all. remove the roadblocks and let them do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:23 PM
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why should I do work for you? you're a foul mouthed abusive child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:15 PM
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you aren't really qualified, and 8% is the rate of provably false accusations - doesn't include the ones that are probably bullshit, but can't be proven. it just feeds into the myth that women never lie about rape, so we should just trust all of them. how infrequently rape is actually reported because of the likes of petulant idiots like you. because i treat women like people. people lie and rationalize. I don't even classify you as a man challenge dogma = not a man. okay. My husband is a man. p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:12 PM
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uh... here i am teasing a girl lightly, letting her rationalize that she can fuck without being a slut, and that's manipulation. later on, she decides to stop fucking me, but if i tell her i'm leaving because of that, i'm a rapist. yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:08 PM
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but that's not what you're doing; you're pushing people to math or nursing to fill a quota. why do you demand that all occupations have demographics that line up with the population as a whole? Math and sciences are extremely important, as are language and interpersonal skills. Why shouldn't people be pushed to excel in both? we're talking about career choices here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:06 PM
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no, sarcasm. I'm quoting Jared Loughner at you because you're about as lucid as him. and now i have to explain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:05 PM
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about 2% or less of them actually are falsely accused. actually, zero. because they're rapists. if you're trying to make a point about the rate of false accusation, then i'd say the number is about a third. a bit over half in india, but there it's mostly families trying to preserve reputation or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:03 PM
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eh, i read your other stuff. you can't seem to follow a conversation, so why talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:01 PM
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a slight biological advantage i noticed. also that it's 'slight'. it exists, most likely. the fact is, CS is male dominated, even in places where there isn't much in the way of social pressure. I think women should be pushed in school in STEM areas and men should be pushed in areas that they are biologically less inclined towards also. what the hell for? no they should not. They should be given opportunity to pursue the goals that they choose, whether they're good at it or not, and people should…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:00 PM
2

If words have no meaning, why even talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:56 PM
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nope. threat in this case is a threat of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:53 PM
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this chick. seriously, run.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:52 PM
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Consent can be withdrawn WHENEVER the person giving it wants to withdraw it. no it can't. after you fuck, you can't go back and say "hey, i wasn't on board, so it's rape" when you were on board in the moment. Her body is NOT YOUR PROPERTY. oh shut up. we're talking about consent here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:49 PM
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the one from new york excludes a lack of active struggle (didn't say no) as a basis for consent. nothing in there is incompatible with setting up safewords and using them. I'm sorry I didn't live up to your expectations. wow, passive aggressive much? use a non apology to make me feel bad for pointing out that you screwed up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:46 PM
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it's something women SHOULD be able to do just as easily as men, but for social (and possibly slightly biological) reasons, they are really underrepresented. you mean that you'd like that they matched men in interest and ability, but they don't for some reason. you're banking on it being social pressure because that can be changed more easily, and anyone that even breathes the possibility that it's more biological is hounded out of their job, so there isn't a whole lot of support for that viewpo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:36 PM
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I posted the laws that led me to my beliefs. I keep telling you, you didn't. you posted regulations that apply to universities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:32 PM
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sure, there's a movement; the jobs pay well and aren't dangerous. I think you want it to be social, but we have evidence that it isn't: Norway has the same problem. read up on its dedication to gender equality - you'd expect it to have more female engineers, but it doesn't India has a lot of female engineers, but isn't particularly good on the equality scorecard. still, CS jobs pay really well, and that's maybe motivation to put in the work the whole notion that men tend towards things and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:16 PM
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That's the point: very few women like the work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 04:56 AM
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right, you didn't see fit to mention any men aside from the jocks, but that's enough to decide that they have it easy. My point was that men are capable of going straight into a well paying job right out of high school your point was that, because you're a woman in web dev, there aren't 'few women in STEM'. Basically, attempting to refute the statement with a single example. I'm also in STEM, and women are in the severe minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 04:00 AM
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i'm telling you that you haven't got anything that supports your view. you haven't made your case at all. that is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 03:04 AM
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you didn't post anything that changes the legal status of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:58 AM
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yup. which is why those jobs go to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:40 AM
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you know how i know you don't understand generalizations? also: men have the upper hand when it comes to school. I live in a small, rural, conservative town, and it seemed like the school was more strict worth girls. The jock guys were pretty much coddled and the teachers went pretty easy on them. men have it easier because the jocks are royalty. you're just confirming the RP stereotype about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:38 AM
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you didn't post anything that discusses rape law in CA.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:20 AM
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no, it's fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:17 AM
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usually. you don't have to, and if you stay in shape, you look nearly as good at 60 as 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:40 AM
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Your "holding frame" is literally "be yourself." which is hard to do if you're following someone else's lead. if you follow your own lead and give no fucks, then you have held frame
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:42 AM
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This is a very unredpill example of an attractive dude - emotionally open, happy, smiley, no chips on his shoulder, no attempts to maintain frame or come across as overtly 'alpha'. nah, he's RP: i can't imagine him getting too hung up on anyone or seeking their approval, he's likely got a bunch of stuff going on and he's happy to bring someone with (or not). basically, he's cute, having a good time, and likely outcome independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:41 AM
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you're fucking kidding me, right? dude looks like own wilson.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:39 AM
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the man can be prosecuted for rape. you haven't posted a CA law that supports that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:46 PM
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that isn't a law regulating the crime of rape. it regulates how CA colleges view consent. new york: A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when: He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without such person`s consent where such lack of consent is by reason of some factor other than incapacity to consent. if we negotiate safe words and agree to use them ahead of time, that can be argued to constitute consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:43 PM
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leme know how that works out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:35 PM
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This makes no sense. Why on earth would a girl just sit back and wait when the overwhelming majority of men who approach her are probably NOT what she's looking for? if enough men that she does like approach, then why would she do any more work? Fishing would be easy if all i had to do was go to the dock and open a cooler.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:26 AM
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are you trying to be clever or something? I get it: you don't like what i said. it's still true - if all you bring to a relationship is sex, it's basically the same as only being good for sex. because all that other stuff doesn't matter - it's off the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:08 AM
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so you're incoherent and okay with it. nice...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:57 AM
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can't argue that. mostly because it isn't an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:51 AM
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No, it means that she's only good for sex wrt me. It's contextual
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:12 AM
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between not bringing something to the table other than sex and only being good for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:47 AM
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What's wrong with being only good (to you) for sex? it means she isn't LTR material. fun in bed, though. If that's all she wants from you and frankly all YOU are good for, what's wrong with that? i'm good for quite a bit more. hell, i know at least a few girls who are good for more for sex, except that that's all they offer. if all they bring to the table is sex, what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:20 AM
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no they aren't. do you have any idea how much easier it is for a woman to get a STEM job?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:17 AM
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yeah, he got all pissy. then i posted evidence and he got even pissier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:16 AM
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yeah, I'm working on the six pack. being cute seems to be the big thing, not any of the traditional values. the conundrum is that, once i'm back to 175 lbs and getting a lot of attention, how could i ever take them seriously? people who won't look twice at me when i'm at 190 clearly value looks, so why would I ever commit at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:15 AM
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oh lord, went to a burlesque thing friday, and the organizer praised one of the performers as gorgeous. she was entertaining, but also obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:11 AM
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this is the opposite of miso-foo. jesus christ, he's saying that a woman worth wifing is more than a fucktoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:10 AM
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you say: I'm educated, have a job, and have a loving boyfriend. I'm independent, ambitious, and a proud feminist. I have hobbies. I can socialize with others and have a good friend circle. relevant to dating, i hear: the education and job are nice. the loving BF is a bit of a barrier if you were planning to date me, but whatever. Proud feminist is a yellow flag, hobbies is nice. here's what i'd need to know: do you take care of yourself physically (I do), are you actually fun to be around, do ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:09 AM
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makes sense. lots of women want to marry up and, if they're making more money, the men they're interested become more scarce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:01 AM
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well, it's nice to know that people on the other side gain value from this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 12:59 AM
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this isn't a CMV thing, so i don't have to convince you of anything, and i'm not assuming the conclusion either: the BP assumption is that they have a distorted idea of what women find attractive. you haven't got a concept of what BP is (it isn't stated). my conclusion is that their map is wrong, so they won't do the right thing. If you simply wanted to reiterate your position that you think RP is correct we aren't even debating that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 12:50 AM
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this makes sense when you define BP/RP as the happy fantasy vs. somewhat uncomfortable reality, which is how i view things. it isn't circular, it's simply based off things we don't agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 12:05 AM
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quoting you: Why wouldn't a bluepiller try to improve their situation? This seems to be contradicted by just observing people. you haven't provided any specifics to respond to, so I'm saying that they try, but do the wrong things, or still operate from the wrong set of ground rules. if you want to argue that this is wrong, I'm not sure how far we'll get - if they knew what actually worked (and didn't simply stick with their disney fantasy), then they'd be RP and deciding a course of action based…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 11:51 PM
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this is an opinion question, and my conclusions follow directly from what i see as the BP/RP dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 11:33 PM
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you have to expect a bad attitude for a bit when someone wakes up like that; that's why they are advised to not inflict themselves on others for the first little bit. Also, RP is something rare - it's a locker room. there aren't many male-exclusive spaces left.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:40 PM
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well, i'll make that one, then. BP dude may whine about not getting any, or may try to improve his lot, but doesn't fully grok the situation, so will usually be less effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:26 PM
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Why wouldn't a bluepiller try to improve their situation? he totally would, but (borrowing from someone else), he's studying for the wrong test.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:13 PM
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i like how you assume RP = bad attitude. i was over there the other day in a thread where everyone was gushing about how their life got so much better when they finally ditched all entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:12 PM
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4? probably. he could get some advantage by diet and dress and general confident behavior. the big bonus is actually knowing what the hell is going on and how good or bad his chances are. Then he can (if he's a 3 or something) say 'fuck it', and go get a motorcycle, sidecar, and dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:11 PM
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translation: I want some, so i'll slag in the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:58 PM
2

i like my plan better - shock and air conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:57 PM
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duh, it's edward. does he sneak into her room to watch her sleep too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:06 PM
2

yeah, pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:33 AM
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and they all fit in one of those buckets. maybe not always the same one, but at any time, they fit into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:55 AM
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no, it's option 3. it's a fucking 4 square: sex, dating, both, neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:24 AM
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you really don't know what that word means, do you? There absolutely is a type 3, and they can often maintain the marriage for about 5 years before bailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:18 AM
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There is no type 3 for me. It's a myth. it isn't a myth just because it isn't there for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:06 AM
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they're perfectly capable - i've seen it. they generally don't have to and can disregard it with minimal/no consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 11:42 PM
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sure did. PUA became even more a surface level thing (aping successful actions), while RP focused more on making men more desirable and shifting the priorities around so sex wasn't as big a lever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 11:39 PM
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It's nonsense, and why i generally disregard anyone who's described as a feminist researcher. can't put ideology in front of facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 11:38 PM
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It would take a huge lack of self-awareness not to know what your gender is attracted if you can get laid and get all your other shit done while not putting effort into self awareness, how many people are going to put the time in to get self aware?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:51 AM
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i love this shit - someone talks about how to act differently to attract women and you try to make it some sort of quid pro quo thing. be an unselfish unbastard. no, be a selfish bastard. if they aren't doing anything for you, what are you burning time for? put yourself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:48 AM
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i do hope he's been warned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:09 AM
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again, she expects to be able to exact punishment on no evidence and takes the reasonable steps performed by the university as some sort of slight. it boggles my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:40 PM
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seems that she waited a year and a half to complain about the guy (who she had apparently hooked up with afterwards and was friendly with), had basically zero evidence, yet expected to be able to point her finger and make him disappear. So she drags around a mattress to remind everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:21 PM
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i think he's mostly tired of people like mattress girl crowing about their victimhood like it exists, which, you know, takes away from the girl who actually got roofied at a party or screwed while she couldn't stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 10:24 PM
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he'll treat you like a kid when you're being bratty. otherwise, he treats you like a flawed human, same as everyone else. still hate him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 06:28 PM
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Most women I know exclusively date, and marry, and have kids with, the guys who treat them like princesses. I dated a woman like that. thankfully I wised up - she was hella entitled. Reading through your post, you don't really get what RP is saying and almost certainly would like a RP guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:18 AM
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Having 10 children as a single mother on Welfare is a better "evolutionary strategy" than marry well and having 2. by what metric? a dozen marginally employed assholes (because they weren't raised well) vs. 2-3 educated and aggressive people achieving technical or political success due to work and connections - which is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:42 PM
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Do red pillers really think dark triads are just low life criminals? pretty sure not or they wouldn't be looking for ways to leverage the attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:34 PM
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I'm more pointing out that detroit and white flight are hardly natural. the blacks with means would have done the same as the whites, were they allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:22 PM
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title 9 is about equal opportunity. it isn't a criminal statute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 04:55 AM
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guy goes to party intending to only hang out and maybe have a beer. gets blotto, has sex with girl. is he a rapist, a victim, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 04:54 AM
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Not a deflection, just bored with your antics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:46 AM
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yup, and my experience is that all the sane women are already married
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:42 AM
1

so now your strategy is to deny that feminism discusses dating and flirtation at all. got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:38 AM
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it was a sidewalk conversation with a bunch of feminists bitching about being approached by people (at all). when i asked them what they would prefer (me being somewhat naive), they flipped out. older me thinks they were trying to bragplain about being desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:34 AM
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instead of talking about lack of strong fathers, which I don't think is the fault of feminism? because they pushed so hard for cutting fathers out of the lives of children of divorced parents (tender years doctrine, campaign against shared custody as default), so they get to own the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:32 AM
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we aren't talking about your rights, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:21 AM
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missing from that wiki entry: Larry said this in a closed door session specifically convened to allow free discourse and new ideas as to why women are not succeeding as much as men. The report of this question was leaked by an attendee, most likely against rules of the meeting, and smacks of the hundred flowers purge. basically he's saying that men at the high end are smarter and faster (they are). I could quote it better by leaning on Camille Paglia: “There is no female Mozart because there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:19 AM
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oh yeah, or else it has to be in this really narrowly defined manner, because girls are timid creatures that can't withstand the force of a stranger saying hi to them without a prior introduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:14 AM
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i've heard this complaint about GFs - even a momentary confession, like "I'm worried about my job" or passing insecurity has been described as making the desire go off like a switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:13 AM
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Again, this is not really the point of feminism or feminist advice. doesn't matter. if you want to tell someone not to do X and actually have them listen to you, then offer an alternative that you think will be effective. feminist dating advice is more focused on avoiding gender imbalances caused by ingrained gender roles which is pretty easy to feel out if you don't listen to feminists and reduce yourself to an object. what's missing is the initial contact. which feminism addresses only in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:03 AM
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your first complaint (or the complaint you perceive in most people) is that feminism doesn't provide an effective model or dating strategy. That's true, because it never set out to do so. Feminism is not about sexual strategy so when feminist peeps tell me not to approach women or in any way be aggressive, I should ignore them, because feminism is not about sexual strategy. glad we cleared that up. like everyone else gets to walk around being themselves but I'm reduced to what some guy wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:00 AM
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well, this is more or less true, but has exactly fuck all to do with the question of how I as a man can effectively meet and seduce women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 12:48 AM
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eh, it's more a pile of mixed and incoherent messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 12:45 AM
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Rp goes on about pedestals and how they think all women want to be on one. nah, they go on about how men insist on putting them there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 12:43 AM
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I like cock jungle - reminds me of cock rampage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:26 PM
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interesting; i do it like this: get to gym at 7. finish at 7:40. no shower. get home around 8, eat at 8:30, do things for a couple of hours. can't go out in 2 hours and really have a good time, but there's studying that i can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:21 PM
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what makes you think the black people were poor due to their nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 11:12 PM
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IF either a man or woman is the most "significant" abuser "predominant aggressor", which means "most able to inflict injury". that's how it's defined.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 07:17 AM
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If your partner hits you, call the cops. no, file a report later.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 07:10 AM
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i've been told that after merely making conversation with random people. so i do ignore it, because, sex aside, i like actually talking to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:46 AM
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i'm the same way. some of the stuff in there is bullshit, or guys spouting off because they have to do it somewhere, but there's enough in there that it makes for a positive change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:44 AM
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the overall discussion is how to address this problem at scale. You actually don't believe women are ever in danger from men? we weren't discussing that. we were talking about how women feel. I will not take responsibility for how you feel; if i like you, i'll make an effort to make you feel tingles or whatever by being around me (but not safety, because the last several times i did that, they thought i was a friend). If you want to talk about actual danger, then that's a different discussion. s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:43 AM
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First off, I don't think it would be socially appropriate or even smart if a man was stalking me and I said, "You know, you should try going to TRP!" don't be silly, his buddies would be the ones to do that. women absolutely do feel their safety is at risk with some behaviors that certain men exhibit. don't care. are they actually in danger, or just reading things wrong? i've had people fuck it up badly in both directions, and it's an adult skill to be at least okay about that. And to get the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:31 AM
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men who violate women's space, stalk them or refuse to take no for an answer are a problem. then maybe you should send them to RP, where they will learn that women ain't all that and that there are a ton more around if the one you hit on ins't feeling it. I think that's what women mean when they refer to aggressive behavior I think it means men they aren't attracted to expending any effort at all. Because experience. I'm not fearing for my safety when I'm being rejected. and women are? sorry, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:20 AM
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sure, even RP acknowledges this. However, men want to get laid, and the will do what they think gets them there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:17 AM
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Do we really need more aggressive men in our lives? who cares? if you're one of the guys who's been neutered, what you need is a way to be more attractive to the women you want so you don't end up being someone's chewtoy, or simply alone. if women respond to aggressive and assertive behavior, then so be it, teach that. if we want to avoid people going to TRP or PUA (which is a question in itself), then the thing we need to do is help them accomplish their goals more effectively, rather than thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 01:10 AM
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if you divorce someone, convincing yourself that the other person is an asshole lets you rake them over the coals more easily and feel good about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:52 AM
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pull a thatcher, see how that works for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 03:48 AM
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given the definitions i've seen for miso-whatsit, yes you would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:57 AM
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being misogynists, won't get you laid. the day i found out that it actually did was quite a shock
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:56 AM
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first, you must define what altruism actually is, then come up with some actual examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:55 AM
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so why not say that instead of "be yourself"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 01:53 AM
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your example is retarded, but i know girls that think this way. I don't plan to change my words because someone else is off being retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:19 PM
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someone is using TRP terminology, therefore they are speaking about a situation where the 'no' or 'we aren't having sex tonight' isn't a flat rejection. RP advice for girls that aren't interested in you is to find another girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 05:17 PM
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because it's using that terminology, so this is precisely what is being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:41 AM
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you mean the bit where you can work irish harder because they're rented? you seriously aren't getting that me being a guy doesn't confer much advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:40 AM
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i'm getting it from the commonly held understanding of LMR, where it's token resistance that allows someone to rationalize doing something before doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:57 AM
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Because they feel that despite having ran the show for the last middle class son of eventual irish immigrants here - did i miss the meeting again?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:27 AM
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It also makes rape more permissible in some men's minds so, I shouldn't call someone a slut because some bogeyman will think that sluts are always down to fuck? that makes no sense. Anyway, the whole point of sluts (in RP-land) is that they aren't really suitable for a long term thing. To be 'good' there are going to be all kinds of pressures and restrictions put on you to constantly prove your goodness yeah, and guys have their own pressures. so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:26 AM
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nah, if you're copping to 100+, what does it even matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:23 AM
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What's the endgame of the homosexual agenda? as a straight white man, i can answer this one: hold hands in public, go to the ER, adopt, inherit, etc, just like straight people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:21 AM
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she's tossing token resistance while not backing off - it's a judgment call whether she actually means that you should stop or if she's convincing herself that what she's about to do is okay
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:11 AM
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2, 3 4 is almost certainly illegal 6, 7 nope. had a girl who specifically requested i screw her while she was asleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:10 AM
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Sarcasm, baby
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 02:39 AM
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well... uni is the place for being fringe. then you grow up, start showering, and act sort of normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:13 AM
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If he acted douchy, you'd think he was a real asshole, presumably, if he acted nice, you'd give him shit for that too. bottom line: be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 01:11 AM
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very buff is a vague term - something like this takes a fair amount of work. this even more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:12 AM
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wow, you're an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 08:04 PM
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Why should society accede to someone's self definition?! because this is a minor change - they're on the other side of the gender binary. get over yourself and let them be girly. The biological differences run deeper than most pro-trans activists will admit. they are mentally women. the fact that they were born male physically means that they have different life stories, but so what? we aren't inventing a new gender or sexual orientation here. I don't see why I owe it to anyone to give up my vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 06:45 PM
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fine by me. i'm saying that if you're a trans girl, people should respect that, even if you don't pass. allowances should be made for honest mistakes, but not the whole 'born that way attitude'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 06:42 PM
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yes it is, and the solution is to modify the body to suit the identity as much as possible. What else are you supposed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 08:01 AM
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How should pronoun usage be policed in the classroom? don't be an ass. if someone identifies as a woman, call her she. same with any sort of respect issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:58 AM
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I have a number of female friends, and they get laid pretty easily if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 07:55 AM
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sex is generally expected on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 09:52 AM
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feminists called the study's writers "reactionaries" for implying that potential rapists may solicit prostitutes instead. that's kind of pointless. a potential rapist presumably wants sex with a specific woman more than they care about what she thinks of the matter. if you just want sex in general, then sure, get a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 09:42 AM
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from what little i've read, he spent a lot of effort complaining about being handed stuff and basically ignored by his parents. the whole isolation he felt certainly didn't help his mental state.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:38 AM
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hell, bad parenting would have been an improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:19 AM
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he needed parents, first of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:03 AM
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common wisdom says about 2 points. so decent, not earth shattering. Also, if you're short, stay off dating sites. ugly faces get prettier (usually) when you lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 11:49 PM
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ugly becomes defined when you lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 11:27 PM
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men typically don't use makeup, and the 90% middle of the population hasn't got those either. sorry, you're coming up empty: most men can be pretty damn attractive with the following checklist: lose fat - under 17% or so get some muscle dress well, clothes that fit and go together walk with confidence have something going on in your life that isn't womanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:19 PM
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i find that odd. she's cute enough and i'm about to fuck her. who cares if her nipples look weird or something. actual attractiveness versus the appearance of attractiveness. you're talking in circles. attractive is subjective and influenced by many things. there's no objective 'actual attractiveness' independent of dress and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:11 PM
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"treat women like children" is an attitude that tends to work romantically. "women are teenagers" is part of a discussion where women haven't grown up because they don't have to. if men weren't held responsible for their shit, they wouldn't grow up either. we all have plenty of examples of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:08 PM
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a nice guy is unattractive, so anything he does that can be interpreted as courting will be seen in a more negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:06 PM
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by the time she's naked, i care somewhat less about that. do you think i'd get more positive attention wearing a stained shirt that's too big and saggy jeans, or something a bit better? once that's off, do you think the girl really cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:01 PM
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as if that even matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 09:56 PM
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yes, how you dress can make you more attractive. this isn't rocket science. is this equally true for men and women? it's probably easier for women to find another door, but more or less less. why put up with a shrew?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:33 PM
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caught up on avoiding it - lots of RP converts are people that are or were BB and got royally reamed for it. that shit leaves marks. how does red pill fix looks/genetics? by being careful about diet and how you dress, and then by being good at talking to people. because while looks open the door, it's your personality that keeps you there. pretty people just have an easier time of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:24 PM
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duh, you think this hasn't already been beaten to death? Hell, there was a thread a couple weeks ago about one guy's friend - model looks, dressed okay. He got mobbed by women all damn day - it can't be any more clear. anyway, you're the one who seems to think that red pill advocates being someone's BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:42 PM
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still a valid strategy, it just makes you a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:21 PM
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the irony is that his 'growing out of RP' phase has made him more red pill. he just doesn't recognize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:02 PM
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However, if dread game (bleh) gets involved and you use the fact that you might leave in order to manipulate the girl into caving, dread game is a passive thing that occurs in a relationship. it's basically demonstrating that you have options, which is in itself attractive. not sure how you think it's anything like an ultimatum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:55 PM
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which are you arguing, effective or valid? i've seen you before (when you got railed in a thread earlier) - you just can't stand being wrong, and it pisses me off. you said the strategy wasn't valid. it clearly is, and is something to avoid. so now you say it isn't effective, which is the same thing. you fucked up, admit it and stop trying to protect your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:46 PM
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it's perfectly valid as a strategy, it's just something that RP is generally advising you avoid. because then you're a walking wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:29 PM
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Beta bucks is listed as one of two primary strategies on red pill is it not? yeah, it's the one you want to avoid at nearly all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:00 AM
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aren't you a gem. i'm mostly pointing out your iffy communication abilities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:30 AM
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here, let me help: "no, i don't automatically think of you as a potential rapist. I actually feel <insert emotional statement>"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:22 AM
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this: Joyful as another male voluntarily removes himself from the possibility of being a rapist? is not him identifying as a rapist, it's him speculating at possible reactions to a man stopping the chase. You know, the dworkinites?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:18 AM
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