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| 11 | We pathologize male passivity in dating but reward female passivity and nobody can explain why without circular logicI largely agree with you, but I find most young women complaining about the quality of male attention rather than the volume and I think that’s where your advice best applies. The men who approach women are a heavily filtered sample that overrepresents men who are comfortable pushing women’s boundaries and men who ask for forgiveness rather than permission. If that’s not your type you really need to do some portion of the approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 12:25 AM |
| 4 | Women have male-like sexuality when they attracted to other womenMen definitely worship stretch marks, there’s an entire nsfw subreddit dedicated to it, body hair that I’m not so sure about but there are probably a few guys into it too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/26 11:31 AM |
| 6 | Most young women are dating the same set of terrible menWhat about a good and moral woman who’s overweight and frumpy? How many overweight and frumpy guys are giving her a chance. Sure she can go on to Tinder and get hundreds of likes an hour but very few of those men are going to commit to her, even the unattractive ones. The simple reality is that unattractive people are also unattractive to other unattractive people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 01:11 PM |
| – | Women don’t owe it to society to raise birth ratesGlobal warming is also going to make many places that were too cold to grow food more fertile. The real problem is that richer northern countries will benefit and poorer southern ones will suffer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 09:03 AM |
| 6 | If women treated men like men treat women we would love it.The whole sub is first world “I can’t get a partner,” “the other gender sucks” issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Men should be able to treat women like objects the same way women doThere are problems with OPs post, but I’m pretty sure the woman at least knows this guy at minimum because she handed him her handbag (which looks expensive). I don’t know that a single rational or even irrational woman would hand a mall worker her handbag. And I don’t think OP was focusing on the post anyway. But the comments (some of which have over a hundred thousand likes) saying how they love for their man to do this. Even if you assume some are bots, there’s no way a post can get this popu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 07:36 AM |
| – | Most dating problems wouldn't exist if women were into menPretty much goes for all social movements tbh. Everyone wants to benefit from other people catering for them, no one wants to put anything in for other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/26 05:59 AM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromI don’t disagree, but the same goes for men too. The men saying that women owe them something are a fringe online group too. The vast majority of forever single men are in their sheds working on their hobbies, doing their own things, quietly going about their lives. The whole “male loneliness epidemic” which while having some truth to it is exaggerated, twisted, and pushed by pop media to divide people and drive engagement. They want you to believe there are millions of men who think they deserv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 12:26 PM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromYup, both of them are just pushing a narrative that their audience wants to hear | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 12:18 PM |
| – | Y'all need to talk to a woman who is not single by choice to understand where men are coming fromYeah some of these dumbasses exclude your group from their theories because it interferes with them, it’s sad to see. In reality there are many women who want a date, long term relationship, and a marriage but can’t get one. I think a huge disconnect between the unhappily single men and women is that most women don’t really want to have casual sex and casual relationships and don’t consider the ability to do so a real plus. However the men are jealous of that option being available (despite the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/26 12:15 PM |
| – | Why are women like this?It’s crazy to see a woman acknowledge this. So many others are going out of their way to miss the point. Props to you. Some of the disagreements in female subs just feel so unnatural and strange. I rarely see any moderate disagreements there, it’s either full and vocal agreement or dunking on the other person for being too regressive if they can frame it that way. If we’re being fair, many men’s spaces have the inverse problem too. Some men are so obsessed with being “brutally honest” that they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/26 02:28 AM |
| – | Why are women like this?That’s not really the point of this post. Frankly, whether this woman is picky or not in your subjective view (or OPs) is actually a moot point. The point is that this woman was clearly unhappy about her situation and was seeking answers (presumably) not comfort and validation. And the only comments suggesting she might have been picky or that her standards for others didn’t match her standards for herself were downvoted and suppressed. They were ultimately doing a disservice to that woman by su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/26 02:06 AM |
| 0 | No way most men are friends with a rapistThat’s a reasonable take, and it should be extended to every aspect of crime and all genders. In your lifetime you’ll likely meet people that have done bad things, they probably won’t be close friends maybe they’ll be coworkers or in the same social circles (ie friend of a friend) or similar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Yeah, I find people in the “middle” get pushed out pretty often by people by need you to “pick a side” that’s kind of the problem with these spaces Opinions with nuance don’t get amplified on subs like these because it’s so much easier to upvote a two sentence comment dunking on someone cringe than actually try to analyze an argument and break it down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 03:57 AM |
| 3 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?You are not wrong on a person advice/individual level, but adverse social pressure does exist and is worth fixing for the benefit for society. If lots of people feel like they can’t make connections in public then some society wide messaging is necessary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 03:48 AM |
| 1 | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanI see a lot of double-income-no-kids lifestyles these days. This is far more cost effective than being single. Having kids is a huge financial burden but not having kids and being paired is very beneficial | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 03:14 PM |
| 2 | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanI don’t think that economic argument works anymore. It’s significantly easier to rent a two bedroom apartment with two working adults than it is to rent a one bedroom or even a studio with one working adult. Single people have a much harder time financially if they live alone without roommates (which is the situation you have to be in for dating). Otherwise it’s roommates or living at home with parents. Single people renting a one bedroom are financially struggling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 09:07 AM |
| 0 | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanYeah. “Ignoring men” as an argument doesn’t work when those men are the creepy homeless guys catcalling you at a gas station. If this happened to men by creepy homeless women they wouldn’t like it either, but it rarely does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 09:03 AM |
| 2 | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanOkay, that last guy needs to be prison like yesterday, wtf. But seriously, that does suck. It’s rarer for women to struggle on dating apps, but when it does happen it’s just as demoralizing as it is for the men who struggle. I think the red pill guys genuinely don’t ever think about women who struggle with dating and have huge blind spots about it. Also being propositioned for sex by seedy men is not something that women want at all. Not only are these men often aggressively repulsive, it’s a hu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 09:00 AM |
| 7 | Men say they just want a normal, decent partner and resent women for wanting ‘perfect’; Women are terrified of being chosen merely for being decent and acceptableLots of people who only have the time, money, and energy to manage a Toyota Corolla want a used BMW just because it’s desirable and theoretically costs them the same (it doesn’t). Lots of people’s “desires” are fundamentally broken and self harming. Yeah, you desire a high but can you deal with the withdrawal? You have to beg them to get the sensible choice or simply opt out because that’s what they can manage and they’re just making themselves and everyone else miserable by giving in to desires… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/25 08:30 AM |
| 3 | Why do men think there are so many good menI’m assuming you fit into all of these beliefs yourself? The first point is completely reasonable. The second would depend on where your cutoff is (I’ve seen people completely inaccurately guess whether someone is overweight or not based on how they look), but let’s assume you’re reasonable. The third point is mixed, there are plenty of people who’ve slept with less than 5 people but pretty much no one, man or woman, (unless they’re religious) who’s had zero lifetime porn use, smut and erotica i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 04:08 AM |
| 11 | Why do men think there are so many good menI mean there are tons of people doing really well for themselves in America right now, it doesn’t mean we’re not in a cost of living crisis for a lot of people. I can find tons of examples of average couples, but I can just as easily find tons of examples about average singles who’ve been struggling to date for years and just gave up. Maybe Moses got lucky The difference is that the ratio of the “have nots” to “haves” has increased very dramatically in recent years. It used to be that at least 7… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 03:50 AM |
| 11 | There are not enough conservative women for conservative men to date.Yeah. Statistically most people in America are center, nether leftist nor right, they don’t have extreme opinions on many topics. “Yeah, it would be nice to have free healthcare, but I don’t want my taxes to go up,” “I think immigrants are fine as long as they’re legal and decent people,” “I think people should be treated equally,” “I’m a little patriotic but we could improve as a country.” Reddit often forgets that normal people have a mix of views and don’t spend all their time on political su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 09:35 PM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenCould you provide an example for the class? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 10:35 PM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenThe overwhelming majority of men who are lonely do not hurt others and therefore do not make it “someone else’s problem.” That’s not even close to being a reasonable concern. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/664e145fae748c43d37940af/140224+SISNET+Incel+Report.pdf This study which was literally created to identify and study incels as a terror group found that 31 attacks since 1989 (killing 59 people) could be classified as incel attacks, and they admitted a few amount those are disp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/25 10:27 PM |
| 19 | People are frustrated because they're essentially wasting their prime years without intimacy and romantic affectionI think the point is that toys are a manifestation of love, fulfillment, and care from your parents. If a kid doesn’t have toys it’s not like they’ll grow up to be serial killers, it’s not a need, maybe there were extenuating circumstances like money that prevented that from happening, but on the flip side it’s something a lot of the population gets fulfillment from and something considered part of a “good” childhood. Sure you can compare it to a medieval kid and say “they didn’t have toys so wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 01:28 PM |
| 1 | A Swedish NGO released a dating manual aimed at lonely menThis manual is just dating advice from 2012, not that that’s bad. At that time most red pill stuff was also just dating advice like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/25 07:41 PM |
| 12 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.That’s still an assumption. There are tons of women that are insecure about lots of things related to their looks and dating, are they all bad partners too? Sure, persistent insecurity will kill a relationship, but lots of people a way bigger portion than what used to be normal are just genuinely struggling to find a date (who would’ve paired up maybe 30 years ago) because of the decline of social spaces, societal atomization, and the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 05:30 PM |
| 3 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.I mean, surveys and studies? Here’s what the Google AI spits out if you ask: By age 30, research suggests men tend to report having more sexual partners, while women often report being in more committed/married relationships, though both genders see shifts with age, with men being single more in their 20s and women becoming single more in later life. A key trend shows more men under 30 are single, while women in their 30s are less likely to be single and more likely to be partnered or married, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.I mostly agree with this but on dating apps the few matches that men do get are not guaranteed to be of any quality or promise. A lot of them are fishing for Instagram followers, scammers, just bored, or not serious. The benefit men have is that they don’t get flooded with options and get decision paralysis, but the drawback is that finding quality matches, even in smaller samples, is hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 05:13 PM |
| 4 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.Plenty of women are still dating and happily marrying, they’re just not on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.I don’t know why so many guys don’t acknowledge this. Just because dating is harder for men, all things being equal, doesn’t mean it’s easy for women who aren’t conventionally attractive. For truly ugly people, both men and women struggle equally, for significantly below average people a trace few men can make up for it with money or personality but most women can’t. For slightly below average looking people, this is where it noticeably easier for women than men to get dates and opportunities fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 05:07 PM |
| 3 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.I don’t think dating is “easy” for anyone unless you’re attractive, young, well off, and fun. I just think that on average the average woman by the age of 30 or 35 has had more relationships than the average man and there are significantly more men with 0 relationships by that age than women. As they age it may be different, but at least for young people this is the case. Just because women have it easier in comparison, doesn’t mean it is easy overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 04:57 PM |
| 0 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.I think it’s more that women get that thing both men and women value (opportunities to date) but it comes along with a lot of unnecessary and undesirable tradeoffs (too many men hitting on you, not taking a no for an answer, casual sex only when you want a relationship). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 04:50 PM |
| -1 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.It’s more like they have severe allergies to much of the food, every restaurant that’s advertised to them is incompatible, and they were never taught or guided how to look for good hole-in-the-wall restaurants. Women just don’t value having lots of men interested in them, that’s not something they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 04:47 PM |
| 21 | Modern society won’t admit that dating is harder for the average man than average woman, because it pushes a narrative that men don’t experience disadvantages, or women have privileges.What makes you make a blanket statement like that? Plenty of guys that struggle with dating would make excellent partners who don’t make you the center of their world. This is a recurrent trend I see. If a guy struggles with dating = something is wrong with his ability to be a partner, when in reality is usually more complicated than that. Lots of good guys struggle too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/25 04:43 PM |
| 5 | "Women are happier single compared to men" is a case of extremely dishonest framingr/asablackman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 10:52 AM |
| 13 | "Women are happier single compared to men" is a case of extremely dishonest framingYeah these numb skulls don’t understand that for many women having sex and being dumped isn’t a win. Sure some women are like that but not most | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 10:47 AM |
| 6 | Why do women think that men have it easy compared to them?Married women are batter off than single women in every statistical category, they have a higher quality of life. What people erroneously point out while trying to make the point that women in marriages are suffering, is that the delta in quality of life between single and married men is greater than the same for single and married women. Since women do better than single men and worse than married women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 09:01 PM |
| 20 | CMV: There are no laws or regulations in the civilised world that discriminate against women - but many that discriminate against men.It looks like all of his examples save for one are from America or Europe, so it’s not “all round the world.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 08:30 PM |
| 2 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.The point was that even if a majority of people think she was the party at fault, these internet spaces like TwoX and MensRights will still find justification to make the person they share a gender with the victim. I’m sure there are examples of male spaces defending men that have been broadly condemned but I can’t think of any right now, the point is that TwoX is similarly insular and toxic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 03:59 PM |
| 1 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.Fair enough, I can respect that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 10:50 AM |
| 4 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.I don’t think the uncle over Thanksgiving is what we were referring to here. The above commenter references studies saying women don’t express political views within their own spaces or groups or even anonymously, it doesn’t say anything about the uncle at Thanksgiving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 08:46 AM |
| 6 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.You could’ve pulled a different example of a woman legitimately getting judged unfairly and that would’ve been a better comparison. As it stands what you said doesn’t make sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 07:38 AM |
| 2 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.If that’s the case, are most blue pill feminist men here just female larpers? I think this panic about people larping as the other gender is insane and unproductive, debate the idea, not the person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 07:35 AM |
| 7 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.That’s such an infantile view of debate. Debate is figuring out whether YOUR ideas can withstand opposition and revealing the merits or demerits of each other’s ideas in a demonstrable fashion, not whether you can convince someone. 99% of debates will not convince the over side, that has never been the point of debate, it’s to test ideas against the best opposition to them. In a courtroom or legislative hall for instance, the point isn’t to convince the other person, it’s to convince third parti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 07:33 AM |
| 6 | "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.I hope you hold that standard for all the manosphere content that’s watched by even less men in real life. If that’s a minority, then the manosphere stuff may as well be entirely irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesUm not sure why we’re only talking about NYC, there are other places too. Also, you’re massaging the numbers a bit. That proportion of rent increase is VERY significant. Paying one quarter of your paycheck in rent vs one third is different. Plus utilities and groceries have gone through the roof. I don’t know why it’s so hard to admit that things were a little easier back in the day. That doesn’t mean they weren’t a challenge, but the current challenges are harder and simply broke the camel’s ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesMy sister in Christ, Millennials need to stop acting like 2008 and now are comparable in any way. Yeah, the availability of jobs was worse from 2008-2010, but other than that everything was better. Everything was massively more affordable In 2025 the average rent is $1650, in 2008 it was $845. If it only kept up with inflation it should be $1245. The minimum wage has not increased since 2009, wages as a whole have not kept up. In 2008 the CPI adjusted average weekly wage was $337, in 2025, it’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:46 PM |
| 5 | Why do so many young men think they shouldn’t be grinding for professional success and for women in their twentiesObviously people mean post WW2. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 12:27 PM |
| 1 | The more we push the me too movement, the more men’s fears are substantiated of false reports for personal gain as the reward to do so is larger. As such you can never “believe all women”.I can agree with that. Sexual assault convictions should be taken seriously. The only problem is that it will reduce the conviction rate, fewer people are going to want to convict someone for 20 years vs 4 years if they don’t feel confident about the evidence. It’s not about your feelings or mine, but about the jury’s. Now serial offenders, that I agree with. There’s no reason to give them leniency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 06:03 AM |
| 1 | The more we push the me too movement, the more men’s fears are substantiated of false reports for personal gain as the reward to do so is larger. As such you can never “believe all women”.I’m so tired of people doubling down on horrible slogans. “When people tell you who they are believe them.” If you use a dumb slogan, most sensible people are going to be weirded out by it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 05:40 AM |
| – | Why so many men suddenly became undesirable?You seem really hell bent on asking a question that will never have a right answer. First off, define equality. Because we will get some insane answers if we do: “women will never be equal to men unless 50% of billionaires are women and 50% of all wealth in the country is owned by women,” “women will never be equal to men unless we invent artificial wombs and create steroids for women to be as strong as men.” I’ve legitimately seen answers like that pop up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/25 12:09 PM |
| – | Why so many men suddenly became undesirable?The way of life in the South, especially the more rural areas is VERY different from somewhere like NYC for instance. You had boomer women in the 1980s with careers even in cities in the South but if you were raised in a tight knit religious community things would obviously be different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/25 11:57 AM |
| – | Too many men make normal bad experiences their whole personality, and allows it to stunt their growth.I was literally telling you to keep the topic relevant one sentence before the part you just quoted, which was the reason why I said that. You just cut out that part because it didn’t fit your narrative. You keep selectively cutting out stuff you don’t like because your trying to force a narrative, arguing with you is a waste of time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:38 AM |
| – | Too many men make normal bad experiences their whole personality, and allows it to stunt their growth.No I’m telling you to keep the topic relevant. Topic drift is a common tactic online grifters use when they’re losing arguments. And fyi, I actually do have some experience living outside the west, so between me and you I’d listen to the person with more experience. Sure you can find a couple men to agree with you, I’m sure I can find a couple women to do the same for me too. We can keep this anecdote charade going and you can refuse to learn anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:31 AM |
| – | Too many men make normal bad experiences their whole personality, and allows it to stunt their growth.We can argue till the cows come home about whose experience is real or not. How would you like to if I accused you of not getting to know men that much and just making terminally online assumptions? I’m sure you’d take that well We live in the west, let’s keep things contained to modern western society. I’m pretty sure most people in this sub, you included, have not lived in these societies and don’t have the knowledge to speak on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 01:09 AM |
| – | Too many men make normal bad experiences their whole personality, and allows it to stunt their growth.My Lilith in Christ, your experience is not representative of everyone else’s. Plenty of people have known unhinged women who have gone unhinged from much less trauma than men. Plenty of male trauma is ignored or about properly diagnosed as trauma. Men have the incentive to hide trauma from other people because other people, including women, don’t take it seriously. The reason you haven’t heard of male trauma is because men would rather hide their trauma from people who would make fun of them, e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 12:52 AM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingYou’re talking about two different topics. Safety and corporate greed is definitely a problem, it doesn’t explain why women are not in the field. Even in “safe” fields like being a dealership auto mechanic, there are hardly many women. Do you ever ask why those men fight safety regulations? It’s because a lot of it is just another corporate greed tactic. A lot of sites will reduce hours citing burnout as the reason, which will reduce pay for the workers. It seems you think that blue collar men a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 09:42 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingA huge number of men work blue collar jobs, what are you talking about? Nearly 50% of Gen Z men with degrees are in the trades compared to a quarter of women. https://thehill.com/lobbying/5373671-gen-z-trade-jobs-rise/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 07:57 PM |
| – | Women expanded their gender role to include what women traditionally do and what men traditionally do. A lot of men are rejected by society because they dont want to do anythingThis is the dumbest option I’ve seen today, and that’s saying something. A wrench or a socket is the size that it is to fit the equipment, it doesn’t care if it’s turned by male or female hands. Maybe you can say that gloves and boots were hard to find in female sizes in the 70s but that’s absolutely not the case today and hasn’t been for decades, there’s plenty of female protective equipment for blue collar work. There’s also plenty of work where being small is an advantage, yet we still don’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 07:53 PM |
| 2 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.Are you sure about that?? I’m sure like 10% of them are, maybe 20% more have casual sex occasionally, but a majority of women only have sex in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 09:52 PM |
| 2 | 30 year old women hitting the wall and regretting things won’t change anything for men.Huh? I’ve literally never met a guy like this. The vast majority of guys (and gals) want a monogamous relationship when they’re young, like right out of college, to enjoy their youth together, have kids, and grow old together. That’s the ideal People who want casual sex past 25 are not the norm whatsoever. Sure there are weirdos but most people are normal. The problem is that the social, financial, and cultural barriers to having a normal life are being extended | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/25 09:19 PM |
| 1 | It doesn't matter. Everything always leads back to it being men fault.The numerical difference in men killing their intimate partners vs women killing theirs is 1700 to 1100 per year. Yes, women are more likely to be killed, but it’s not an epidemic of solely women being killed by solely men. It definitely not a justification for 99% of shelters being prioritized for women and there being no public funding for men’s shelters. Women face more violence but it’s nowhere near the disparity that shelters have | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 09:51 AM |
| 2 | It doesn't matter. Everything always leads back to it being men fault.That movie is 65 years old. The blockbuster movie wasn’t invented until 15 years later. It was a hit film in its time, but absolutely nowhere near universally popular. Plenty of fathers are also blamed for their kids’ behavior. The only difference is that the absence of a father is very common in troubled people so there’s not a person to analyze except for the fact that there’s a missing figure in their lives Are there crazy boy moms? Sure. But there are also plenty of obsessive girl dads who t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 09:45 AM |
| 24 | How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism?I think 99% of people have the condition of their partner “adding value” to their life. It’s just that people differ with some of the specifics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 03:22 PM |
| 19 | Why do conservative men say that they despise liberal women, but are still open to dating them?I think this really does explain a lot. There’s a huge divide in “conservatives” right now. Traditional conservatives are the ones that are usually religious, have usually grown up in a rural setting, and usually have traditional gender expectations. The “conservatives” that a lot of people erroneously point out as conservative are the Joe Rogan types. They didn’t grow up in a conservative environment, they grew up liberal. They’re not even socially conservative, they’re just anti-establishment … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/25 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Why do some women say its the guy’s fault for being single?Dude, being a stay at home dad means that you’re back to having one income. One income is not enough to raise kids on for most people in 2025 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 07:30 AM |
| – | "Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple storeExcept the app has literally been exposing people’s full names and personal information. That’s the whole controversy. The info is not public | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 10:39 PM |
| – | "Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple storeWhat? Source for that? I don’t think there’s ever been an example of a serial killer who’s done that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 10:34 PM |
| 2 | A noticeable amount of women care more about hating men than they do about helping womenMy friend in Christ, this snippet is talking about employment in the non-profit sectors not free volunteering. People are paid wages to work at non-profits. They aren’t there for free. Sure the company as an entity is not there to profit, but you have to pay your workers so they can live and not starve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 04:03 AM |
| 3 | Men are discouraged from approaching women they don’t know as well as discouraged from asking out women they do know.I actually think there’s some good information in this comment but I think some of the conclusions you’ve come to are wrong. First off, the guys that are scared of being seen as creeps are scared of upsetting or making women uncomfortable, they’re the same guys. I don’t know why you think guys are only concerned about their image and not about making women feel uncomfortable. These guys have empathy. Second, the guy in your story will not listen no matter what messaging you give to him. Unfortun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 01:06 AM |
| 4 | Men are discouraged from approaching women they don’t know as well as discouraged from asking out women they do know.It’s nice to see a woman finally acknowledge this. Tbh, I know this is a very generalizing statement but girl groups tend to be much more averse to disagreement than guy groups. Sure in monolithic echo chambers they both act very similarly, there’s a narrative and they need to stick to it and they shut down counter narratives. But the difference is a lot more apparent in neutral groups like r/Askmen or r/askwomen. I see men being far more perceptive of the difference between men and possessing a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 12:47 AM |
| 6 | Men are discouraged from approaching women they don’t know as well as discouraged from asking out women they do know.Except the “sort of know” line is always getting moved depending on who’s asking. For some people a “sort of know” is one conversation with the person, for others it’s a few months of seeing them around, hanging out, and several conversations. This is the problem with these vague statements, different people have different ideal dating scenarios and different standards. I’m not going to fault anyone for being non receptive to someone not approaching the way you like but it also bears repeating t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 12:34 AM |
| 6 | Men are discouraged from approaching women they don’t know as well as discouraged from asking out women they do know.You aren’t understanding that from a guy’s perspective there’s nothing “natural” about falling into a relationship with someone. Every time I’ve heard this said I always probe a little deeper and it ends up being the guy who pushed into the girl’s comfort zone and made a move. When it’s successful it’s “naturally falling in love” from a woman’s perspective, when it’s not it’s “I never showed romantic interest but they still asked.” Women have a very easy time gauging interest from a man because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Men are discouraged from approaching women they don’t know as well as discouraged from asking out women they do know.That’s great and you have a balanced approach to social situations. Unfortunately many people don’t and will call people creepy for a lot lot less than the guy on the train. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 12:18 AM |
| 0 | Men are discouraged from approaching women they don’t know as well as discouraged from asking out women they do know.It’s fine for a woman to have different preferences. It’s not fine for women to call men creepy and disparaging their character for doing a dating approach that a large portion of the female population would be okay with and is generally socially acceptable even if it’s not universal. There was a guy who left a note with his number for a girl he fancied who he met at a hackathon, then it got posted on Twitter for everyone to shame the guy. That is not okay. Thankfully everyone with a brain calle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Would you live in a male only city/society?I don’t think 8 families is enough to be a commune. Sounds like it was just a small group of similar people. That’s normal. In fact it doesn’t sound different from a sorority that just expanded outside of college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 04:25 PM |
| 0 | Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by FeminismAs an example of an influencer who shouldn’t be deplatformed, which is what I said in my original comment. That doesn’t really detract from my original point. BPs mention him way more than RPs. You should direct your sentiment to them if you don’t want to see him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 12:43 PM |
| 4 | Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by FeminismAn actual nuanced take… maybe this subreddit isn’t doomed after all. Most people subconsciously adapt their personal politics and narratives into ways that justify their own actions and demonize others in ways they can benefit from, the difference comes from people who are willing to recognize that and actively work on being fair and charitable to people who don’t agree with them, and those that don’t. Lots of men want to go 50/50 on money but also expect their woman do all the housework. Lots o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 12:18 PM |
| 5 | Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by FeminismWhere did he say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 12:09 PM |
| 4 | Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by FeminismI agree with this. It’s a very weird and dehumanizing way of viewing the opposite sex. Sure, some people are predictable like that, but by treating others this way you’ll never get any real emotional connection with someone you’re basically manipulating like a dog. I’ll also add that a lot of female influencers and women do the same thing, just with better PR. “If you ask a man out he won’t put in effort,” “if you sleep with a man too soon he won’t take you seriously,” “don’t compliment men or h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Society Hates Men Who Adapt to the "New Normal" Created by FeminismTbh, I have never seen a single instance of an actual red piller on this sub liking or promoting him. At the very most you’ll get someone saying he’s shouldn’t be deplatformed but that’s far from being his fan. Blue pillers talk about Tate about 15 times as often as reds do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/25 12:01 PM |
| 1 | If women love misogynists, then why do so many men here struggle?He’s literally an average guy from that information you got | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/25 09:33 PM |
| 1 | If women love misogynists, then why do so many men here struggle?Most of the very most attractive guys get approached by women, I don’t know why that’s controversial. Or at the minimum they’re invited to approach and people really want them to be in their social circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/25 09:31 PM |
| 4 | Women, by and large, are not "settling" with guys they aren't attracted toIt depends on what generation you’re talking about. Blue pill thinks “settling” was rampant up until the 1980s when women had no choice, and red pill thinks that settling is rampant up till today. Honestly red and blue pill agree on a ton of things, the one difference is what time period they’re talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/25 04:31 PM |
| 1 | You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problemIf you’re seriously using ChatGPT instead of your brain, you need your head examined. Like WTF, what kind of world are we living in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 06:29 PM |
| 14 | Why are modern woman so keen on "vetting" a man?OP is dumb as heck for disregarding women’s very real safety concerns but I think a lot of the “choose better” rhetoric doesn’t just come from women choosing obviously awful partners but from women ignoring or eliminating decent partners over reasons that don’t make sense. Like, a lot of college educated women perceive blue collar men as less erudite and worldly than college educated ones which is a weird metric to judge someone by and not really true either. Women should absolutely consult the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/25 10:04 PM |
| 2 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.How do I know you’re not making that up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 05:32 PM |
| 2 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.Then so is your comment you dingus. How do you know the good looking guys you deem to be good looking are considered good looking by us? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 05:26 PM |
| 2 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.Then what about all the experiences where women are treated badly by good looking men they married? All the divorces, all the deadbeat husbands, all the emotional labor, all the runaway dads? Everyone who complains on r/Marriage Judging someone by how they look is dumb. People's character isn't defined by how they look. Go back to kindergarten and learn this. The consequences of being raised as when you were good looking vs when you weren't are apparent, but every individual person's response to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 04:47 PM |
| 9 | Why are trans women more targeted than trans men?If transphobes saw trans women as women, they wouldn’t be transphobes, they’d just be regular assholes. The whole ideology is rejecting the idea that you can be different from your sex at birth. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/25 08:37 AM |
| 26 | Why are trans women more targeted than trans men?Nothing you said makes sense. IMO 99% of the hate trans women get comes from the perception that a man is invading a woman’s protected space. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/04/25 08:34 AM |
| – | Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average.I don’t know where that quote is from but it’s great | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 08:14 AM |
| – | Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average.Dude you know this reasoning is BS. If confidence was the issue here the sample would be more evenly distributed. Plenty of average and above average men have confidence issues. A lot of them are fat and hairy too, or they just have low self esteem. A small dick doesn’t make you less confident, lots of guys have never even measured. Either that or you’re saying that women automatically associate being bad in bed with small dicks or have no ability to determine their man’s size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 08:10 AM |
| – | Time to settle the dick size debate once and for all using data - women generally prefer bigger dicks until a certain point and the ideal size for most women is larger than average.Yeah. I think most people are misinterpreting that comment of yours. It’s not that she suddenly doesn’t love a man because he has a small dick, that’s ridiculous and the red pillers telling you that it is that way have never interacted with a married couple. It’s just that long term, after the infatuation fades the immutable “faults” of your partner don’t disappear. Maybe they make less money than you expect, maybe they’re overweight, maybe they have a disability, maybe they have bad BO, maybe t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 08:03 AM |
| 1 | Why doesn't porn seem to warp womens' perceptions of sex the same way it does for men?Had to scroll down too far for this comment. Yeah, visual porn is very male dominated and the female equivalent is literary porn. I’d also say general romance, rom-com, and women’s self help is also often toxic to women’s perceptions of men. A lot of them have men acting in completely bizarre and unnatural ways, just like women in porn. A lot of them have men acting in ways that are unhealthy both for themselves and the women they romance. The ideal male in women’s romance is a man that acts in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/25 12:20 PM |
| 0 | If a woman voted against your reproductive rights, would you still want to date her?This outrage doesn’t work when we draw an arbitrary line at birth demarcating personhood when that line clearly has a lot of blur. Premature babies as early as 21 weeks have been born and survived. If we confer personhood at at line, it would already conflict with a lot of abortion laws. It would be legal to electively abort a 21 week old baby in 27 US states in 2025. For the record I believe in everyone’s right to bodily autonomy. What I don’t believe in it suddenly pretending to be outraged by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/25 05:30 PM |
| 4 | Everything being men's fault may be somewhat true, but THAT might not be men's fault.You literally left out the most important point of his comment The world I came up in. Soft, weak, noncompetitive men die. They might die at work, on the street, or by their own mates hands, or their own. This is why he believes what he believes, he believes men have to be tough because otherwise there's literally no choice for survival. At the very least there's a consistent worldview here. The problem with all our your comments is that you don't seem to have a consistent worldview beyond "men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 02:16 PM |
| 18 | Everything being men's fault may be somewhat true, but THAT might not be men's fault.I knew this sub had tons of misandrists but this comment is more blatant than I’ve ever seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 12:54 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Families are happier with the modern wife/mom than the traditional typePaintings are different. Different fields are different. For instance modernist philosophy spans from the late 19th to mid 20th century. We’re in the post modernist era now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 10:21 AM |
| 6 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.And here we go with this topic again. An acceptable approach needs to be defined by how the approach was done, however that’s not how a lot of women view it. The actual attitude often is “You should’ve been able to tell from my body language or the hints I’ve given that I did not want to be asked out by you.” Which is nonsense because all women are different and don’t read the same way and unless it’s super obvious either way most men can’t accurately tell. But that’s how an appropriate approach… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 11:29 PM |
| 8 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.I don’t think anyone was saying that. I think the point was that women are just as superficial as men but less likely to admit it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 09:38 PM |
| 15 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.Yeah, if the filter is “I want a guy that has the confidence (read: lack of respect for boundaries) to approach me” you’re going to get way more guys approaching you that don’t care about what you want, but will simply push through the social restrictions of the environment to get what they want. The “I like her but I’d rather not make her uncomfortable” guys are the ones you will never find. If you still want a man who approaches you first, then fine, have your preference. But don’t ever compla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Social awkwardness in men is exactly as much of a turn-off to the opposite sex as being a fat woman.Regardless of what you think of him, he is objectively extremely good with people. If he wasn’t he’d be Mark Zuckerberg, who never needed to be socially successful because he founded his own company and went from there, Musk bought in and collaborated for almost all his projects. Somehow Elon keeps managing to convince thousands of people to invest in him and even if you hate him, you have to respect objective achievements. He’s a little awkward on stage but otherwise he’s a master at people ski… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/25 02:10 PM |
| 3 | Social awkwardness in men is exactly as much of a turn-off to the opposite sex as being a fat woman.That makes more sense. 1974 sounds about right since landline phones were everywhere but cellphones weren’t even a concept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/25 02:04 PM |
| 13 | Social awkwardness in men is exactly as much of a turn-off to the opposite sex as being a fat woman.Awful people often have lots of friends, lots of good people don’t. It’s all about the vibes, that’s all it ever was, there’s rarely any logic behind that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/25 02:02 PM |
| 10 | I thought r/men was a neutral sub for men. But they’re as censorious as men’s lib.Holy shit. And he’s the moderator over there. Honestly the whole concept of mods participating in subreddits is ass backwards, if you get into a pissing contest with someone you can just ban them. There’s a conflict of interest there. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/25 01:39 PM |
| 18 | I feel abandoned by men, what has caused so much anger?I’m reminded of the Linkin Park song “Robot boy” You say you’re not gonna fight cause no one will fight for you. And you think there’s not enough love and no one to give it to. And you’re sure you’ve hurt for so long you’ve got nothing left to lose. So you say you’re not gonna fight cause no one will fight for you. You say the weight of the world has kept you from letting go. And you think compassion’s a flaw and you’ll never let it show. And you’re sure you’ve hurt in a way that no one will eve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/25 01:50 PM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.When did I say otherwise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 05:12 PM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.That doesn’t really change things. Some of the most hostile interactions I’ve seen were at fancy restaurants. There are lots of assholes with money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:56 PM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.Warm approaching used to be a good way of approach. The problem is that it’s now socially unacceptable in all but one scenario Friends: No one wants to be the creep that asks someone out in their friend group and gets rejected. And if you do you can only ask out one, otherwise you’re the desperate weirdo who approaches multiple women in a friend group. Work: good strategy in the past, 30% of marriages came from work. Universally discouraged now, even if there’s no real work relationship or repor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:54 PM |
| 2 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.Good data, don’t know how reliable it is, but it’s definitely something. The only real thing we can glean from the this data (assuming we don’t consider how many people were being truthful and what population was being sampled and how) is that the rate of sexlessness has definitely increased in the past few years, at least when measuring things according to this method. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:40 PM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.In one hand I get your point, it’s definitely common enough to worry about, on the other hand a bar is literally the worst possible place to sample test this. It’s like a magnet for all the lowest people of society, depending on where it is obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:36 PM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.That’s because you’re old. Young men aren’t approaching young women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:34 PM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.I suspect it’s a very rare occurrence, but common enough to go viral on TikTok when it does happen and common enough to fear happening to you should you put yourself in a risky situation. It’s the same with every phenomenon. Women getting snatched off the street is very uncommon but common enough for every woman to worry about it. It remains uncommon partly because most women don’t take the risk of walking alone at night but it makes headlines when it does happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:32 PM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.But would you be upset or bothered by gay men approaching you? A lot of women see men approaching them as a negative experience, even if he does take the rejection well and leaves, which granted, doesn’t always happen so there’s definitely a reason for women to anxious, but that’s also not the individual guys’ fault and it doesn’t make the approach itself more welcome. So for women it’s the difference between wanting an attractive guy to approach them vs being actively terrified of rejecting a g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: how would you feel if your wife made these typically “male” comments/ posts online?Most guys hate these guys too, it’s the same as when red pillers dig up evidence of female gold diggers and say “see all women are like that/typical woman behavior.” Shallowness, resentment, and toxicity are all gender agnostic traits. They’re present in men and women I don’t mind this question because a lot of people can’t see the exact same behaviors if the presentation is a little different or if they’re part of the same group. But the answer is that there aren’t really “male” and “female” co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: how would you feel if your wife made these typically “male” comments/ posts online?Huh? What kind of idiot is arguing that this isn’t enough to break up a marriage? I haven’t seen anyone say that. Dumb reasons for breaking up a marriage are that you’re bored/you want to see what’s out there/or any other reason done on impulse. Having your partner resent you in subtle ways is a recipe for disaster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:12 PM |
| 4 | The Reason Getting Dates is So Much Harder For Men Is Women Won’t Look Past Any FlawsI wonder if anyone posting this opinion is below the age of 30, or even 40. Do you guys not go outside? Do you not see that people want to date and can’t find anyone, or at least not anyone good? Gen Z women are in the same boat as Gen Z men, lonely and isolated. Most people aren’t happy being perpetually alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:02 PM |
| 8 | The Reason Getting Dates is So Much Harder For Men Is Women Won’t Look Past Any FlawsExcept that they are? Just because it’s not as bad for women doesn’t mean that women on the whole are less satisfied, less happy, more frustrated with dating, and more lonely than women in the past. There’s tons and tons of research about this, it’s pretty much fact that modern people are more lonely in every way (friends, family, partners) than their predecessors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 02:53 PM |
| 15 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?This is interesting. I agree with all the obvious stuff. It’s obviously awful when someone gets spiteful and bitter after rejection. I just don’t get where the myth of “physical attraction is the only attraction” for men comes from. And for another, men aren’t a monolith, there’s variance. It’s probably more true than not that most men do instantly know whether a woman is physically attractive. But, depending on his circle, many women in his age group could be equally physically attractive. This… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 04:18 PM |
| 0 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?What is with you people and your made up “I never want to see you again” scenarios? This isn’t a K-drama. Real life is more complicated than that. People grow apart, best friends drift away into strangers. Maybe after such a confession one or both parties just slowly drift away from each other, not replying, not really putting much effort into meeting up. That’s normal. It happens to every adult. Seriously, some of you need to touch grass. Friendships fade away, for a myriad of reasons, it’s a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 04:02 PM |
| 6 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?Question: what if the woman who was asked out was the one who broke off the friendship cold turkey? Does that then mean the woman never actually valued the friendship with the man? Does that mean she just saw him as a convenient yet disposable hang out opportunity and nothing more, so that she bailed when the mildest friction was applied to the friendship? I think it’s weird to view things in such black and white terms. There’s a possibility that either party didn’t value the friendship, but ide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 03:55 PM |
| 15 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?Have you considered that men aren’t a monolith? Seriously, whenever any seemingly contradictory behavior from women is noticed, the logical reason is that women are different. Same for men. Some men know they’re attracted to a woman immediately. Others are not attracted to a woman immediately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 03:50 PM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?You know that they’re just the leaders and the most public figures right? It’s not like there are just two people alone, they have lots of internal non-public supporters in their organizations/movements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 03:44 PM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?This is a really great comment. I think that there is a place and a necessity for venting, even when the venting is politically incorrect and toxic. Humans need a place to dump toxic stuff that’s eating them up and a single gender support group is the best way to do it. That’s why I think female only and male only spaces have a place in 2025. Language like that should however not be used in a public space outside of very specific circumstances. A lot of people season their facts with spite and b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 12:53 PM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?Fair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 12:17 PM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?A lot. Earl Silverman famously in 2013 tried to found a men’s shelter for victims of domestic violence, as he’d been a victim of it personally. It was entirely funded by his own personal funds and a few donations but the money ran out eventually. He tried petitioning the local Canadian government to fund the project since they already funded many women’s shelters in that area. However the government refused. He kept trying until the money was gone and he hung himself. The Innocence project aims … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 12:15 PM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?Do you see the difference between a bigoted statement and a factual one. Saying “men commit a disproportionately high percentage of recorded violent crime” is a factual statement. “Men are dangerous” is sexist. Saying “black people commit a higher proportion of recorded violent crimes compared to the norm” is a factual statement. “Black people are more likely to be violent” is a racist statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 11:58 AM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?Be careful with that language. The most horrific humans in history have all used “trends” to justify their behavior. It’s fine if you observe a trend, but the issue is making definite and absolute statements about people’s character. “Men commit more recorded crimes than women” is a factual observation of a trend. “Therefore men are less kind, less moral, and less trustworthy than women” is a social extrapolation of a data point into discriminatory territory. “Men have problems or men create pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 11:46 AM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?That’s true and it’s a good answer. If people just listened we’d be able to speed run solving so many social issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 11:37 AM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?I agree with everything but the last point is very if applicable. Most men are only close with like 2-3 other men. And they choose their homies carefully, usually mirroring their own personalities. There’s usually no one to hold accountable. The guys who harm women probably stick together because like attracts like, but I find it’s very odd for women to have this idea that it’s very common for decent men to be in a group where they just ignore locker room talk (or far worse) and just turn a blin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 11:36 AM |
| – | Genuine question; what do you want me, a random guy, to say/feel when you brought up a problem about men and/or gender inequality?Whenever I hear something weird like that 95% of the time it’s because the person isn’t very good at writing abstract ideas or their first language isn’t English. It’s almost always the normal, boring explanation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 11:25 AM |
| 12 | Trans misandry is real.That genuinely is insane. You are allowed to have really stupid and shitty preference but that doesn’t stop them from being stupid and you are not free from criticism for those standards. If someone doesn’t want to date someone because a piece of information about them gives them the ick, it better be justified. Some icks are stupid and should be criticized as such. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/25 06:02 AM |
| 22 | Trans misandry is real.Yes, there’s sort of an inverse for TERFs Trans Accepting Radical Misandrists. They acknowledge that trans men are men and trans women are women, but then they proceed to hate on trans men because they’re men and they transitioned to a gender with more historical privilege (in their views). Whereas TERFs hate on trans women and think they’re sexual deviants, their hate comes from rejection the concept of transitioning your gender. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/01/25 06:00 AM |
| 0 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?Men aren’t rewarded for degeneracy. Sure if you poll some frat bros or dudes online, but most of respectful society doesn’t reward that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?That’s because suicidality is heavily under diagnosed in men. The vast majority of early psychology was focused on wealthy women. This is like saying autism is less common in women when really it’s under diagnosed in girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?Any idea WHY men don’t want to be teachers? It’s because they’re already discriminated in early education hiring. It’s probably worse discrimination or at least as bad as women in STEM. Most parents (of both genders) would want their very young kid hanging out with a woman all day instead of a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?Jesus Christ. You really haven’t talked to a man in like 30 years. Men don’t get to coast, that’s just your narrow minded view by self selecting the men you want to focus on. Men face insane pressures too. Men don’t get anything handed to them on a platter unless they’re from money or have connections. I hate this “one gender has it massively easier than the other” game. It’s the same as dudes thinking girls can get into a relationship any time they want. Yeah, they can probably get into a relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?“Peacefully stalked” Dude, the oxymoron. I guarantee that it would’ve been scarier if you were a 4’11” woman and your stalker was as big as a bear. Even peaceful stalking becomes worse. Just because you didn’t feel its effects as badly doesn’t mean the behavior was more morally justifiable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?That’s just a giver who’s okay with not receiving much back. Everyone wants that, humans are selfish. Whenever I hear “more x should be like that” always ask “who benefits from that.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 08:21 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?Is that unprotected hand holding I see 👀🚔🚨 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 08:01 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?You bring up good points but I think you’re missing something. There’s a difference in magnitude. It’s not maxing out all your credit cards, but rather being very austere with your spending on your spouse. It’s not about the exact acts but about the effort and enthusiasm put in. Are you willing to put your best foot forward for your GF? Are you going to be hyper conservative with money just because your previous GF used you. Are you going to be reserved and cautious. Even in your own comment: “I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 07:56 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?I would implore you to go read up on r/deadbedrooms. It is horrifying. If your partner isn’t 100% passionate about you, this is where you’ll end up. Anger and resentment will set in and you’ll be in for a divorce | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 07:39 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?A woman is not a product that you can just get X amount something out of. She’s a human being with her own wants,needs, boundaries, goals, worldviews,life experience , growth etc.If you’re compatible with how she is in the moment and both r willing to accept each other, and learn to grow with each other, then this question doesn’t even make sense. Ironically you’ve just uncovered the answer. A lot of people (you included) are talking about women like they’re products (“if you want a sexual woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 07:34 PM |
| 4 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?Not buying a single toy for your kid is absolutely wack. Best case scenario is that he’s just waiting for the kid to grow up a little, then he’ll play video games with them or something. Some parents just never grow to like the baby phase. Even so, that’s not great parenting. Love your story though. It’s nice to hear that perspective. Obviously men’s feelings during childbirth completely fall into irrelevancy and for very good reason. The woman is doing all the work and she should be the focus. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 07:22 AM |
| 9 | If you’re waiting 3 dates (or a month) to fuck someone, you would have been better off having a hookup and fucking immediately.There’s a point somewhere here but it’s lacking nuance. A lot of guys have gone on dates where they feel like they’re putting in all the work, almost like they have to “convince” the woman they’re worth it by being as charming as possible and pushing the limits of their personality to make a spark happen. That’s where this advice of “if she’s not putting in effort, then don’t waste your time” comes in. One of the most obvious ways women put in effort is by showing or reciprocating sexual attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 06:55 PM |
| 2 | Why is it some men both simultaneously look down on women but also seem to want their approval for everything like we are their mommy?Modern? I’d agree with your take but I don’t see men of old being less so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thing“Listen to victims” or “support victims” would be a much better quippy slogan than “believe victims.” The former is far closer to your expanded interpretation, the latter subtly implies some unconditionality which goes against your message. It’s bad phrasing. Time and time again people will double down on a horrible phrase instead of just changing it to something that makes a bit more sense. Same with “defund the police,” “reform the police” or “end qualified immunity” are light years better as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 08:36 AM |
| 1 | What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern eraI think we call this response projection. Just because you’ve experienced something does not mean that “guys just cause their own problems.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 06:01 PM |
| 1 | What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern eraI think we call this response projection. Just because you’ve experienced something does not mean that “guys just cause their own problems.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 06:01 PM |
| 4 | What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern eraIf your answer to any question is a broad statement of how one group is bad and problematic then I don’t know what to tell you. Ironically you’re doing the same thing as the guys you’re criticizing, just to a different group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 05:56 PM |
| 8 | What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern eraThat kind of proves the opposite point? The only time when young women are more single is when they’re 21, at every point after that does it not show that men are significantly more likely to be single than women. Sure women are single too but there’s a gender gap | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 05:51 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Why are males more likely to stay in miserable marriages?This absolute statement doesn’t help. It really depends where you draw the line of a bad relationship. If it involves fighting and constant stress and anxiety then clearly it’s awful, but if it’s just dead or loveless but you get along just fine then it’s probably nice to have two incomes and live comfortably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 12:16 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Why are males more likely to stay in miserable marriages?Well, my life experience shows the opposite, so we cancel out. I just think this whole generalization is dumb, men and women definitely express emotion and act differently but they feel the same basic emotions. Men are self critical in a way specifically designed to be private and unseen. Women express it publicly because they are looking for support. It’s not normal but it happens just enough that men are shamed and degraded for showing vulnerable emotions (as opposed to anger which isn’t by vu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 12:13 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Why are males more likely to stay in miserable marriages?I don’t think those are remotely the same men. Men who blame women for their marriage choices are red pill bros will probably have a prenup and an exit strategy ready, but unfortunately that’s not the case for most people, your life and finances are so interwoven that it’s hard to do that and people don’t have the energy, least of all at the prospect of having to restart dating. We live in a stressful world and for some people leaving a dead but not abusive marriage is less stressful than all th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 12:05 AM |
| – | Literally no man is “mad that women can choose their partners now.” This has absolutely nothing to do with TRP or men’s frustrations whatsoever and needs to stop being used as a deflection.Dude “women should” does not equate to “women should be legally mandated.” One can criticize a choice while still believing that having choices are good. It’s more like “women ought to.” Certainly women do this all the time with men. “Men ought to go to therapy more” does not equate to “we need to round up men and force therapy on them” for instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 11:54 PM |
| – | Literally no man is “mad that women can choose their partners now.” This has absolutely nothing to do with TRP or men’s frustrations whatsoever and needs to stop being used as a deflection.Exactly. I can’t fathom people in this thread that think that criticism of a choice = wishing to strip away choices. People should be allowed to make horrible choices for themselves, they should be allowed to make bad decisions, but you can still criticize the specific decisions. If your view on freedom only extends to what you approve of then you don’t believe in freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 11:47 PM |
| – | Literally no man is “mad that women can choose their partners now.” This has absolutely nothing to do with TRP or men’s frustrations whatsoever and needs to stop being used as a deflection.Everyone already does the last part, but people can still complain about the culture, women certainly complain about it, as do men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 11:43 PM |
| – | Literally no man is “mad that women can choose their partners now.” This has absolutely nothing to do with TRP or men’s frustrations whatsoever and needs to stop being used as a deflection.No it isn’t. What the OP is talking about is the broad social culture of being able to date freely, no one is mad about that. However, that doesn’t preclude you from criticizing the specific type of people other people go for. If someone gets back with their toxic ex for the 15th time you can criticize that decision and still respect the idea of people choosing any partner. You can criticize someone’s choices while supporting the system that allows someone to have any choice they want, even the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 11:41 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about the idea that women may put men into two groups- those who are “hookup/ONS” material and those who are “relationship/husband” material?That just means that women are bad at rating men, and also that wasn’t the conclusion of the study. Men messaged far more people because they found them attractive, women messaged people they didn’t rate highly simply because there were so few people rated highly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 06:52 PM |
| 6 | What do you think about the idea that women may put men into two groups- those who are “hookup/ONS” material and those who are “relationship/husband” material?Honestly, that second example is a perfect mirror example to this. What the woman is saying is basically saying “you’re not the most handsome.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 06:47 PM |
| 11 | What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events?You can be a blue piller and still upset at the state of dating or your own dating life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 07:42 PM |
| 16 | What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events?You can’t possible be this obtuse. Anyone can go to an event and be a wallflower, most women do wait for the man to make the first move and wait to be approached. If you don’t make the active step to ask somebody out you always have the social plausible deniability of “I didn’t find any of them attractive anyway” if it happens that you weren’t approached. There’s no rejection there. Not being approached doesn’t count as rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticityDude that was a meme, it’s not a real story Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 11:19 AM |
| – | The conversation has been hijacked by undesirable men, the REAL issue is that actual DESIRABLE men are being viewed as beneath average-below average womenIf that’s the standard then men complaining about not being able to get a gf is also not entitlement. Also “where are all the good men” is a rhetorical question, they’re not asking literally where to find these men as if they were hiding beneath a specific rock. It’s the same band of complaining that both genders do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 11:24 AM |
| 3 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherNo, Trump actually won a ton of people over. From the exit polls and the other data, he massively improved with minority men, women, and young people. He won whole counties of almost entirely Latino voters. Pretty much all the demographics which used to be universally liberal have shifted. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/24 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage?I can see why you have your flair now, lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/24 03:30 AM |
| – | Do we have to pin women down to a science.It’s tone, it usually always tone. The negative perspective black pillers bring seems to be coming from a place of “it is how it is” rather than “let’s discuss the issue and see if we can find a resolution.” People don’t like the negative tilt. It is true that your sexual desirability is overwhelmingly connected to your superficial features, but even within those (often phrased hyperbolic by BP) limitations there’s still stuff you can do to connect to people and experience romance. It is hard an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 06:45 PM |
| 4 | Men need to stop believing and spreading the idea that having sex with a lot of women is more ideal than just having sex with women you can find through your passionsIt’s a high energy activity, you are taking care of your health, and if you enjoy it, you’ll find happiness and fulfillment. You’re not cooked at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 03:28 PM |
| 11 | FD Signifer Makes a 28 Minute Video attacking Abuse Victim Johnny DeppThese idiots preach “intersectionalism” and then completely fail to understand what that means. Black men are at the intersection of issues directed at black people and issues directed at men. Why does he think false accusations happen to black men overwhelmingly and not black women? It’s because they’re men, the men part of black men is more distinguishing than their race in cases of gendered crime. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/10/24 12:10 PM |
| – | CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25Dude, it’s crazy to me that people are acting as if doing adult things is rocket science. Sure, the brain might only be 99% developed at 24 and it needs another year but you don’t need a fully developed brain to do basic adult things. People with brain damage literally manage. Getting a job, moving out, paying taxes, opening a retirement account, planning for the future, dating, getting married, driving, drinking, taking on debt, none of these are hard. Literally none of them are asking you to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/24 10:46 AM |
| – | CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25I was going with option 2 until I saw who posted it. If it’s windmill it’s bait. She’s a master at this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/24 10:37 AM |
| – | More boys are now out of school globally than girls, and the inequality is bound to get worse [There is no patriarchy series]They keep saying “men should help men,” but then also demand that men should help women because they hold physical and societal power, but women shouldn’t help men because that’s emotional labor and a burden. They don’t see people as people, just pawns in a gender game. They don’t get that there are families and friends where opposite gender people can help each other not because they’re men or women but because they’re fucking people. The problems might stem from something related to gender but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 03:09 AM |
| – | More boys are now out of school globally than girls, and the inequality is bound to get worse [There is no patriarchy series]The problem is that most teachers in early education are female, and there’s a good reason why, men are extremely stigmatized if they have a job that requires being around little kids. So I think women AND men should take the lead on boy’s issues. It doesn’t have to be one gender’s domain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 02:46 AM |
| 22 | What are your thoughts on this? - A woman expressed discomfort sitting between two male passengers and abused the crew.Yup, and an airline’s right to kick her off if she doesn’t comply with all the rules. Honestly after seeing so many crazy airline passenger videos post Covid on YouTube, I feel sorry for flight attendants and airport security that have to deal with this. Lots of drunk people as well. No one has time for that, just kick them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/24 12:18 PM |
| 10 | What are your thoughts on this? - A woman expressed discomfort sitting between two male passengers and abused the crew.If she wants to avoid sitting next to men, she should book a ticket on the airline that has that feature. I don’t mind airlines having a feature like that, as long as they disclose it, in fact it might be useful to avoid not having to sit next to obese people and others that genuinely make the flight more uncomfortable (although I doubt that since that’s not politically correct at the moment). People can vote with their wallets. Demanding that other paying passengers accommodate her seating requ… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/24 12:16 PM |
| 0 | Q4W - Why is there hesistancy to acknowledge how good you currently have it?I actually agree with this, in the past there were different rights and responsibilities given to each gender, depending on your situation and personality being born into one gender or another would be advantageous. However, in most economic systems in history men had more control over their lives in exchange for economic expectations. I don’t like the way modern intersectionalists think about this. They think about it like a score. If you’re a minority that’s 5 oppression points, if you’re a wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4W - Why is there hesistancy to acknowledge how good you currently have it?Colombia is not even the worst country, you can be South Asia or the Middle east or North Africa or sub Saharan Africa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4W - Why is there hesistancy to acknowledge how good you currently have it?History shows a clear divide between people that were privileged and those that weren’t, it came down to economics and social class. If you were an upper middle class woman born into a noble family in the Middle Ages, you lived a life of leisure. Servants, serfs (or slaves) did all the housework, and your only job was to have kids and preferably give your husband a male heir. That’s not nothing, but it sure beats working 15 hour days and barely having anything to eat as a serf, which 90% of men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4W - Why is there hesistancy to acknowledge how good you currently have it?I see men being grateful for not having to go to war all the time. So many men see what’s happening in Ukraine and Palestine and are thankful we don’t live in countries affected by war. I am baffled that you are turning this into a question of dignity, there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging modern sociology-economic privileges. OP used the word “acknowledge” which means to accept it as a basic fact so we can set a baseline for modern arguments, otherwise we’d constantly be in a loop of “my lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 02:05 AM |
| 27 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areThere’s a specific type of person that defends stuff like this. Their agenda is that there are no bad behaviors, only bad targets. If something unfair is directed at a person or group they don’t like then anything goes. This is the attitude of so many people who justified evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 05:16 AM |
| 4 | High earning women don’t intimidate men from dating themI’m baffled that so many women think that older couples live in the Handmaid’s tale; but ignore the thousands of shows, art, history, and fragments of culture where a woman bullies her man around the house. A lot of people say that’s because “the man doesn’t take charge; the woman has to do all the mental load.” But a lot of women don’t want their man to dictate big decisions because they hate his taste or his way of doing things. So for men it’s either acquiesce or argue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 12:56 AM |
| 4 | High earning women don’t intimidate men from dating themWomen can do a lot more, like ask men out and pay for dates. Also I think more people would adopt the traditional lifestyle if it was cost effective, it’s not for the vast majority of people. The ratio of wage growth to living cost increases has been getting lower and lower. A lot of men would want to be stay at home dads, but the economy won’t let them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 12:51 AM |
| 5 | Married men or men in longterm relationships: does your wife/gf financially contribute to your household? If so, please elaborate.Flair checks out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/24 01:51 PM |
| 18 | Married men or men in longterm relationships: does your wife/gf financially contribute to your household? If so, please elaborate.Brother, you are too normal and sensible for the subreddit. Go and enjoy your life with your significant other, the perpetual gender war will distract you from the happiness you already have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/24 01:47 PM |
| 10 | To the female losers here, why won't you date a male loser?That’s where I’d politely disagree with you a bit. I think the reason that these nerds or losers are shying away from romance is twofold. One is that there’s nothing more revolting than a man complaining about how he can’t get dates/sex/romance or how he’s lonely and how that makes him feel worthless. You are either pathetic or dangerous or both. This is the vocal minority and the silent majority of nerds does not even want to be remotely mistaken for one of those creeps so they know how to keep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 05:26 PM |
| 6 | To the female losers here, why won't you date a male loser?Yeah, the problem with the Gen Z generation is that there’s a huge lack of networking support for young people, in person and online. I guess you can find others on discord and Reddit but I don’t trust either of them. Honestly a dating app that connects introverts would be amazing. But it’s got to do a lot Be safe for both women and men Not be super high effort to drive away users but not super low effort to welcome in bots and scammers Give you the right amount of options, not overwhelming you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 02:11 PM |
| 11 | To the female losers here, why won't you date a male loser?Sometimes I can’t believe how dense people are. That woman you responded to is creating the very problem she’s faced with and is oblivious to that fact. Some people just need to be burned over and over before they learn what a tool they are I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 12:38 PM |
| 4 | To the female losers here, why won't you date a male loser?I agree with you but that was an awful example. Getting incarcerated is the red flag. Maybe the guy was just dealing with trauma (also a possible red flag) or just focusing on himself, working on his career, or staying single just because he wasn’t ready | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 12:35 PM |
| 26 | To the female losers here, why won't you date a male loser?There are a lot of male nerds your age who are looking for exactly you and are basically the male equivalent of you. Quiet, introverted personality, works a comfortable but stable job that allows him to have hobbies but has no interest in being a millionaire. Spends most of his time alone, plays video games and watches anime, spends time on indoor hobbies like building PCs or working on cars. Dude, you are perfect for them. The only issue is that neither of you can flirt and the first few intera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 12:29 PM |
| 21 | Men are worse off than women in all developed countries. This is so controversial that UN falsifies the Gender Development Index to hide this factWhat is this terminally online take? Did a substantial portion of men used to be hostile to their wives? Sure. But the majority of relationships, even in the deep dark past were mutually beneficial and loving. Having a family that loves you is a huge benefit during times of external stress like wars or economic turmoil. Modern humans are doing that less and less. Contrary to popular belief, most decent men don’t get a kick out of controlling their wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 05:21 PM |
| 20 | Men are worse off than women in all developed countries. This is so controversial that UN falsifies the Gender Development Index to hide this factHonestly that’s insanely strange to me in retrospect. No one needs to be a CEO or the president, it’s a nice to have for equality but the glass ceiling is hardly a pressing issue. The female executive manager earning a good income doesn’t need another promotion to keep living a comfy lifestyle. The actress that gets paid $20 million and is upset that her male co star got paid $30 million should take it up with her producers, not turn it into a feminist movement. Rich celebrities have tricked the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 05:16 PM |
| 6 | Sexual ultimatums aren't necessarily sexually assaultBro, leave for the sake of your sanity. You’ll see posts like this sometimes, there’s some good discussion occasionally but there’s also this stuff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 02:03 PM |
| 7 | Sexual ultimatums aren't necessarily sexually assaultThis post might be the most unhinged one I’ve seen this month. And that’s not an easy feat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 09:38 AM |
| 7 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Yup, I want to point out that white supremacists and the KKK literally did use that language against black men. Black men were hated because of their apparent sexual aggression towards white woman, there were entire cartoons with black men drawn as lecherous creatures preying on white women. One of them had a white housewife trembling in fear because she heard a knock at midday and didn’t know if it was a black man outside. When they were lynched the racists didn’t write “black men bad” at the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 11:06 AM |
| 5 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Yeah they would 100% be on the wrong side of history if they were born in a different community. Their ideology is “my group deserves more” not “treat everyone equally, even the ones I don’t personally like.” If they were white supremacists they’d believe they were oppressed by the Jews or the DEI or lgbtq agenda something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 10:58 AM |
| 6 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I think the joke was that you’re an alien because you’re female and believe in equality (or just not demonizing all men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Men need to learn to be happy being singleI wasn’t talking about that, I was responding to your complaining of not having a rebuttal to the claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Men need to learn to be happy being singleAlmost all the information about single women being “happier” comes from Paul Dolan, a certified grifter who’s been debunked and roasted multiple times. He sells a self help book to single women, there cannot possibly be a more severe conflict of interest. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness Vox did a great piece on him looking into his sources and they didn’t hold up. The rest of the studies generally say that the delta between … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 06:50 PM |
| 2 | Men need to learn to be happy being singleI wonder if people can hear themselves while they say things like this. Never take happiness advice from someone who isn’t or wasn’t in the same position as you. Rich people think that money is overrated, married people think marriage is overrated, people with a degree think that college is overrated, people who’ve travelled think that travelling is overrated. It’s overrated for them, based on their unique baseline of privilege/happiness/quality of life but it’s not for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 06:46 PM |
| 4 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?If he misrepresents how important sex is to him to secure the relationship then yes he’s he is a deceiver. If he says blowjobs aren’t important when he wants them then also yes. You don’t need to tell everyone everything on a dating profile. Different parties of people require different types and amounts of information. In dating discourse, like this subreddit, asking what one wants in a man is asking for all the major general requirements. If you don’t specific looks then it’s gonna look like t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 05:00 PM |
| 11 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.I think the point they were making is that the bar for a man to be considered attractive enough to be romantic is higher than it is for women. In high school having a little bit of money helped a guy with dating, having a vehicle was another huge plus. Girls just had to show up. Guys were the ones tasked with entertaining the girls and girls could get away with being completely passive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 06:11 PM |
| 8 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.Dude, your comment just helped me figure something out. It’s kinda like how people in the west don’t want to hear about the starving children in Africa because it makes them upset and then they try to argue against giving money to those nations because they’re morally uncomfortable with the topic but prefer for it to just disappear before actually engaging with it, because the discomfort challenges their worldview. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 06:05 PM |
| 5 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.That doesn’t make someone a role model | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 05:53 PM |
| 12 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.Can we just acknowledge that some women are shallow? Why is it that everytime a woman does something stupid someone comes out of the woodwork to rationalize her behavior and spin it in a way that fits their worldview (both red and blue pillers do this)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 05:52 PM |
| 33 | Blue pillers and Red pillers agree on somethings, one of which is "The guy has to wait his turn"Yup. And if you keep pressing them they will eventually default to “well you should be okay with being single. The reason you aren’t getting dates is because you’re not internally content with being single.” They remind me of Facebook Republican boomers who think that if you just work hard enough and pray to god you can own a home and live an affluent lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 11:02 AM |
| 14 | Blue pillers and Red pillers agree on somethings, one of which is "The guy has to wait his turn"They didn’t say good looking, they said good person. I don’t know how one makes it to adulthood believing in the just world fallacy. Most people are not terrible but rarely in life are rewards based on effort and fairness, there’s so much else involved. Do you think a black man in a 99% white town in 1960 couldn’t get dates because he wasn’t a good person? Race may no longer be a big factor but people have replaced that with other more socially acceptable superficial features | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 10:58 AM |
| 3 | Porn consumption is one of the biggest threats to empathy, connection, and love between men and womenHeavy male chauvinism, strict power hierarchies, religion/authoritative state control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 07:50 PM |
| 12 | Men on here complaining that "women will call the police for talking to them" are not neurotic, they're fairly accurate, the problem is they project this (true about themselves and their experience) fact out into wider society when it isn't true for 99.99999% of men.Except that did used to happen, ask Emmett Till. When black men were lynched you know what they used to write under the hanging bodies? They didn’t write “black men bad,” they wrote “We will protect our mothers, wives, sisters, and daughters.” Their crime was literally talking to women. These days race is much less of an issue in America at least, but there are many avenues to “other” the men that you don’t like. It still happens in many other countries. Lower caste/class men are routinely jaile… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 07:43 PM |
| 6 | The me too movement was a moral panic that fundamentally overreached and caused new issues for regular menIt literally DOES matter how many sexual assaulters there are causing all the sexual assaults. Take any other group, a minority of bad actors cause the majority of violence and reputational damage for the group. Telling those groups to hold the entire group accountable for the actions of a few individuals doesn’t work. In the western world, no one who’s taken seriously supports sexual assault unless they have zero other morals or are active psychopaths. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 11:12 AM |
| 4 | Porn consumption is one of the biggest threats to empathy, connection, and love between men and womenHave you ever considered that one can be all those things while watching porn, as long as it’s not a ridiculous amount of porn? I don’t get why sex-positive feminists suddenly become southern Republican evangelical preachers when it comes to porn. “My sexual activity is the only moral sexual activity.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 06:42 AM |
| 12 | Porn consumption is one of the biggest threats to empathy, connection, and love between men and women“It’s so sad that men resort to porn, it’s all fake.” “Cool, are you going to do anything to help lonely sexless men, other than preach at them?” “Hell naw, they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. I don’t owe them anything.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 06:38 AM |
| 2 | In democracies, there are no laws that discriminate against women, only laws that discriminate against menWhat do you mean just made? That subreddit is well over a year old and has hundreds of posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 05:11 AM |
| – | Why aren't males attending singles events anymore?It’s strange to see a woman admit this. For a period of time on the internet, all I saw was women denying that they want anything to do with men, that they were disturbed by being approached by men, that they were terrified of having to reject a man because he would turn violent, which apparently is a super common occurrence. I don’t deny that this is the case for many women around the world, but it was never the case in my (admittedly privileged) communities. Women couldn’t care less about the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 05:50 AM |
| – | Why aren't males attending singles events anymore?Flair checks out I guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 05:40 AM |
| – | Why aren't males attending singles events anymore?Dude, it’s nowhere close to that. A college mixer, either organized by the college or by a frat or Greek life organization is miles from a singles event. A bunch of mostly privileged, educated, hot young people in a place with alcohol where the full responsibilities of life have not kicked in yet, where being single is the default for most of them is a vastly more cohesive environment than a random event with random adults that haven’t found a partner. Not even slightly the same thing. A lot of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 05:37 AM |
| 2 | Would you still be interested in a woman that sleeps with you on the first date?I’m not saying that was the case for you, rather it’s more the case in first interactions. You don’t know their intentions. It’s a shame that some relationships where people love each other devolve into sexlessness. Sometimes you really can’t see it coming. I don’t know about men and women having the same sexual libido. I think for men it’s just more consistent across the population and across short periods of time, whereas there’s a much greater variability of women, some have very high libido … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 07:13 AM |
| 11 | CMV: Males are more likely to accept being fetishized in a LTR than women.I think you’ve hit the nail on the head for why men don’t want to be fetishized. If the fetishization is purely physical, it’s rarely ever a bad thing. I mean when you think about it, by being attracted to humans, you’re fetishizing humans. It’s a bad thing when you start to add stereotypes to it, and especially when you start fetishizing by personality, men despise this. It’s the difference between a girl saying: I love Asian men’s eyes, they’re so pretty. And I love Asian men because they’re h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 07:05 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Males are more likely to accept being fetishized in a LTR than women.It’s not evo psych. It’s more of personal observations from real life. Men are interested in way more women than women are interested in men. I think Taylor Tomlinson (bi comedian) had a joke about it. Attracting men is like throwing a brick through a window, attracting women is like threading a needle while walking on eggshells. I don’t remember the exact joke but the point is that even for bi women it’s way harder to attract other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 06:49 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Males are more likely to accept being fetishized in a LTR than women.Idk if jail is the right comparison. It’s more like taking ownership of a shady, slightly decrepit house. It’s way better than nothing, but a lot of it is a mystery and you don’t know whether it’ll backfire on you or not. Trying to fix a house is no joke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 06:41 AM |
| 2 | Would you still be interested in a woman that sleeps with you on the first date?You bring up a great point about men being turned off by women wanting sex. I think from the man’s point of view being horny is not a turn off at all. It’s WHY the woman wants sex that’s concerning for the man. In dating apps whenever a woman seems too into sex it’s always because she’s a scammer or OF girl. If it sounds too good to be true, it definitely is. If you take any random average man, chances are that 100% of their interactions with “hot and horny” women have been negative, manipulativ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 06:26 AM |
| 2 | Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with themDude, do you want an answer or are you just here to voice your own views? Yes, I agree that the primary cause of social decline is the internet and the isolation and loneliness people face irl. But I think that this issue definitely affects men in a uniquely bad way. Think of it like this: healthcare access and treatment is a huge issue for everyone, but certain aspects affect women in a uniquely bad way, due to pre-existing social structures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:59 AM |
| 3 | Why women reject most men and how men can empathize with themOP, I think you missed the point. Women’s primary concern about dating isn’t being burdened by having to reject hordes of guys, if that were the case then it would be tedious at best. Women’s primary concern is that the man might be dangerous. He might not take no for an answer. Women’s secondary concern is pregnancy. After that we can talk about their problems with men’s personality and not finding an ambitious enough college educated man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:13 AM |
| 1 | At point would you acknowledge a man's efforts are sufficient and the environment he is in is the issue?This is the first time I’ve seen someone who isn’t a passport bro actually recommend comparing the dating experience abroad. Usually you’ll get the usual gaggle of “the women are just pretending to like OP because they want to immigrate to the US (or other western country).” There is a bit of an argument there since the US is a very desirable country to immigrate to and it’s not unreasonable to think that many women have done that, but I don’t think comparing say the US to the UK or Canada or Au… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:35 AM |
| 3 | At point would you acknowledge a man's efforts are sufficient and the environment he is in is the issue?I really applaud you for genuinely helping OP. This sub has a vibe of being filled with bitter misanthropists so it’s nice to see someone genuinely help another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:29 AM |
| 1 | At point would you acknowledge a man's efforts are sufficient and the environment he is in is the issue?I am interested in what you have to say. As a woman, what do you think the average man’s dating life over a lifetime is like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:26 AM |
| 2 | At point would you acknowledge a man's efforts are sufficient and the environment he is in is the issue?All those things you listed are controllable though. I interpreted “environment” as factors outside the man’s control not the literal environment. A man can move to a bigger city, move out of his parent’s home, and get a better job. I think the better question, and what OP was getting at is: how much of it is out of his control. If a man is a minority in a country (moving to smoother country is substantially more difficult so I would count this), short, has physical defects, disabilities, health… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:08 AM |
| 2 | "Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similarGenerally, I agree with you. Everything here is the most sensible explanation. However, I think that the point that the above commentator was (poorly) attempting to make is that in a hypothetical scenario, a lot of the eventual partners for women wouldn’t have been swiped on if they were on a dating app. The point here isn’t that women are settling necessarily, although there may be some who do. The point is that women’s initial physical attraction to average men is very fickle and weak. Hear me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 02:41 AM |
| 3 | "Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similarYup, handsome shy guys get women throwing themselves on them. Shyness/introversion/social awkwardness is only a real dealbreaker for average or below men. If you’re handsome you’ll stand out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel any male soliditary with male refugees/immigrants or view them as sexual competition/invaders?Spot on. I also see men in the center thinking that liberal women are too naive when it comes to immigration. And in a way, I think they’re more racist than the average liberal man. One moment I remember is that during the height of BLM, a lot of liberal women (and some men) cheered on the riots and protests until they came into their neighborhoods. Then they turned into 40 year old white suburban Republican Karens when they realized that they were going to be personally affected. Men in general… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel any male soliditary with male refugees/immigrants or view them as sexual competition/invaders?I’ve never seen this opinion before, but maybe it’s common in Europe. In the US it’s unheard of. Mostly US conservatives are concerned about jobs and cultural similarities, not the ratio of male to female immigrants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 01:43 AM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?Dissolve the marriage and split custody based on the family court proceedings. I’m not sure why anyone would want to stay with their partner after that accusation (true or false), so that’s the only solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:36 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?If it’s a truthful accusation that doesn’t have enough evidence then everyone just goes home and we give both parties a no contact order. It’s really simple. Proving that an accusation was not only false but also malicious (ie not an accident like identifying the wrong guy), is very very hard. If a chance for a false conviction is rare, the chance for a false conviction of a true accusation is infinitesimally small. Also, it’s not in the same trial. You’d have one trial for the original crime an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 04:33 AM |
| 8 | How come introverted men seem less attractive to women than extroverted men?Thank you for respecting the male perspective. It’s so rare to see the “yes, guys have it harder” opinion in any scenario in any conversation about social issues. I’ve noticed a lot of women think men roll out the red carpet for other men and immediately form a boys club with other guys just to exclude women. That may be true for a few men, but most men have to offer something to get accepted into any group, whether that’s a group of men or mixed gender. At the same time I don’t think shy women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 03:16 AM |
| 5 | How come introverted men seem less attractive to women than extroverted men?I generally think that’s true. Most unattractive shy women are ignored. However, I think theres a difference between average looking shy men and average shy women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 03:04 AM |
| 10 | How come introverted men seem less attractive to women than extroverted men?I’ve noticed a lot of introverted women have a similar idea, and that ties in with traditional gender roles really well. They want a man to be the instigator, to lead, to be adventurous, to plan activities and dates and they’ll follow his lead. If the personalities match this can be a good dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 02:59 AM |
| – | Why do so many straight men seem to want anal sex with their women? Will you be in an LTR with a woman if she says she abhors the idea?It’s so weird that so many men in this thread are telling women whats pleasurable for a woman and having women personally disagree with them. It’s wild. Humans are diverse can feel different things though, so no one should be speaking for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 06:44 PM |
| 3 | Q4M men with zero options, do you consider it a silver lining that you can't attract women who would treat you badly, or do you mourn over not being able to attract them as well?Bruh, this is the most down bad comment I’ve read on ppd | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 05:46 PM |
| – | Average guys are made to feel "dirty" for having a sexual desireWhat kind of rancid high school did you guys go to? Most people in high school were talking about normal stuff like classes, movies, clubs activities. Sure there were some dirty jokes here and there but literally no one would just randomly talk about bjs. At most someone would discuss who was dating who. Seriously, is this a joke question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)triggered Dude, it’s not 2016 anymore. Also you’re not “presenting the truth,” you’re making a declarative statement with no argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:23 AM |
| 4 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)What exactly is “oppression” to you? I find feminists using this word to describe everything they don’t like even when they make zero sense. Oppression is the systemic or cultural effort to hold down or put barriers on a group. Women unable to open bank accounts on their own without a male co-signer is oppression. Having an asshole bf (or even multiple one) who doesn’t care about your pleasure is not oppression. Being from a hyper religious society that denounces female pleasure is oppression, l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)Denying basic reality You sound exactly like a toxic red piller here. That’s not how you convince people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:12 AM |
| 9 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)I wouldn’t say feminists want this, they’re indifferent at best. Most feminists say that men aren’t oppressed in body image because an average looking guy like Adam Sandler is seen getting hot women in movies (no joke they’ve used this line). Men’s body image isn’t a priority at all for feminists. If anything they’d argue that men have too much self confidence in how good they look vs women (because if they complained about body image they’d be called losers and incels). This is despite record n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:10 AM |
| 4 | Blue Pillers on this sub are committed to keep men down (part 2)The problem isn’t that we have patriarchal standards, the problem in the modern world is that we have patriarchal standards and feminist standards but no egalitarian ones. Under the patriarchal system the goals and rewards were at least clear, it wasn’t a system that worked for every man, in fact it held down most men, but at least it wasn’t vague. Now we have something that works for no one. Men are expected to be both traditionally masculine and egalitarian without any reciprocation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:57 AM |
| 2 | Society and women definitely equate being unable to attract a woman with being a loserMost intellectually rigorous argument on PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 05:56 PM |
| 6 | Society and women definitely equate being unable to attract a woman with being a loserMen view women having excessive casual sex the same way society views men watching lots of porn: something easy, fun, an instant dopamine hit, and ultimately self-destructive. The upshot is that people don’t respect other people who stuff that’s fun but detrimental. They don’t respect addicts, they don’t respect people who waste their days away gaming, they don’t respect people who can lose weight but choose not to. Women want men with ambition and success because that shows discipline, men want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 05:50 PM |
| 10 | Society and women definitely equate being unable to attract a woman with being a loserIf you get offended and hurt by criticism from the average person, it’s because deep down you’re not satisfied with who you truly are, which is determined by your actions. You’re clinging onto the false self you project to others, which is also fragile and dependent on the validation of others. This is literally word for word, what the red pill guru bro types used to say. I think the assertion that if you’re offended by something that means something’s wrong with you is catastrophically stupid. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 05:45 PM |
| 8 | Do you think the world would be better for women with no men in it?I never thought I’d see a woman say things like this. It must be Opposite Day. I liken it to how we need differently types of cars. A Mazda Miata sports car is not inherently better or worse than a Chevy Silverado pickup, it’s just that they have different roles and use cases. Both are needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:35 AM |
| 19 | Do you think the world would be better for women with no men in it?For longer than I’ve been alive the rhetoric has been “women can do everything a man can do, but they’re less evil.” Everyone, even school teachers, would implicitly send this message. Seeing a woman say genuinely nice things about men is always so weird. It hardly feels real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:31 AM |
| 6 | Do you think the world would be better for women with no men in it?The vast majority of people in dangerous/heroic roles are also men. Firefighters are almost always men for instance. Look at Ukraine, most women have fled to other European countries and most men stayed behind to fight. If it wasn’t for young men, say goodbye to your country. Men commit a lot of injustice but men also perform a lot of good deeds at the cost of their own safety or survival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 01:22 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?It’s so weird seeing a woman tell another woman to be nice to men. Although I don’t know about using “men can take away women’s rights” as a hypothetical. That’s never going to happen. Too many decent people exist for any vindictive social attitude to change that. It’s more about community strength. If you want to foster a good community you have to help those who are struggling. I don’t get why people on this thread keep asking for a reason to help men, you’re on this subreddit wasting time tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 02:18 PM |
| 6 | What is the most generous thing you have ever done for your boyfriend or husbandI feel like asking if you’re okay is a redundant question here. But from just reading into a small window into your life I think what you did is very admirable. 99.9% of people will never do something this altruistic in their entire lives. He might not have made it without you during those times. I hope that someone does the same for you someday should you ever need it, cause the universe owes you one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 02:10 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?They are? I haven’t seen anybody opposing that message | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 02:01 PM |
| 2 | I'm tired of people saying that divorce is good for kids.I think there’s a lot of nuance you and the rest of this thread is missing. Separated parents range on a spectrum. It can either go really well for the kids or get even worse. In some cases the toxicity can be worse when you’re alone with one parent, abuse can be worse, parents can take out their emotions on a child when they’re separated. Loveless marriage ≠ toxic marriage. Two parents can basically peacefully resign themselves to living together and raising the kids even if they aren’t in love… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:56 PM |
| – | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileI mean, they could’ve asked them that or there could’ve been reasons they didn’t. It’s just that one person asking one time and then tumbleweeds afterward is not the solution. It’s more about fostering a helpful community feeling. Or the guy could’ve just not been that close with those people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:47 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?A small fringe group of political pundits hated the Barbie movie, and there are legitimately criticisms about the way some of its messages were delivered. However the VAST and overwhelming majority of people, including men, liked that movie and it grossed a ridiculous amount of money. Dude, it made over a billion dollars. No movie does that without getting a majority of the male viewer base to watch. If anything this proves your opposite point. Ken, the single guy, was actually portrayed in a go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:41 PM |
| – | Do you consider it a red flag when a woman is a feminist?You've been given examples of what this would look like when reversed on to teaching women something. The issue is that you're predisposed to believing that this in particular is justified, while "teach women not to do x" is not because it doesn't happen often enough to be a legitimate problem. Sure it's common sense. But it's usually covered under teaching kids to be nice people. Going out of your way to teach a specific group of people a lesson can imply bigotry on your view of the group depen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 08:01 AM |
| 5 | What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"?I think a lot of young men would be totally fine with having an assertive woman. They seek an egalitarian relationship in both monetary and domestic chores, often don’t want kids, and just don’t need a super feminine woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 06:05 AM |
| 2 | Women simultaneously dislike men approaching because they feel treated as "romantic prospects" instead of "regular people" yet dread the moment a male friend would suggests something moreThat last paragraph, I think it’s very telling. I think the fundamental problem is that the “complaint” needs to be delicately phrased in a way that doesn’t put the blame on others, and there’s a bit of a social double standard when it comes to that. Why do all my guy friends ask me out after I get to know them for a while? It’s so frustrating. Is just the female equivalent of: Why is it so hard to get a date as an average man? It’s so frustrating. Both complaints are valid in the sense that lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?Agreed. I think the only nuance is how well you have to know a person to trust them, and what the delta for that threshold is between a man and woman all things being equal. I think those are the only points of debate really, protecting your child always comes first, especially when there are many unknowns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 06:28 PM |
| 4 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?I legitimately respect your response, although I don’t agree with everything you’re done a nice job of trying to be fair and balanced to all parties. I think there needs to be a line where people can exist and take calculated risks while not actively adding their own damage. The cost of being a bigot is not zero. Every time you make a decision on who to trust based on instinct, that is driven by all the personal biases you have. The harsher and more discriminatory those divisions are the biggest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:29 PM |
| 21 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?Exactly. Also there’s a very important distinction to be made between private reservations and public ones. If you privately are uncomfortable around black or brown men because of your experiences that’s fine, just never open your mouth about them. If you do then expect to be challenged. It’s abominably stupid to spurt out a generalizing option and then be surprised that it’s challenged or that it offends people. Sure there’s a line between acceptable criticism and just vitriol, but if you have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:02 PM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I agree with your assessment. I think both genders are happier when in a relationship but single men are significantly unhappier than single women. Partly, I think it’s the ease of getting into relationships and sexual validation. As a young woman if you were ever really thirsty you could go to a club or a bar and get some attention and sex. It probably would be extremely mediocre at best and generally not fulfilling but at least it’s always an option and at least initially there’s a dopamine hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 05:21 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Yeah, they reject dating apps because they know about the cesspool they are, if an actually viable way to meet people online was present, they’d go for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 04:56 AM |
| 0 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I don’t think anyone’s life is being saved by doomscrolling on Reddit or Twitter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 04:55 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.This comment is very insightful. I think that to actually understand the other gender, reading unfiltered thoughts is about the worst way to do it. Humans have a negativity bias and an in-group bias. When you hear something off it’s only natural to take the worst interpretation of it and move your walls in. That’s been the way life has worked for most of human history and it’s what kept us safe. If someone was acting sus, being defensive would at worst burn a bridge and at best save yourself. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Feminists in general oppose gender neutral lawsBut I wasn’t talking about the post, that’s its own disaster. I was specifically referring to this void, where I don’t think you should be shitting on a guy saying that he thinks one thing is preferable to another if it happened to him. I don’t think the discussion of something being worse than another thing on a broad scale is productive. Different people have differences fears and different tolerances for traumatic events. Someone who’s been in a car crash is likely to fear one more. If someon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 02:13 AM |
| 3 | Feminists in general oppose gender neutral lawsThat is really stupid from a western perspective, but it’s par for the course for India. The problem with India, aside from the regressive culture, is the legal system is very very incompetent. There’s corruption, red tape, layers of bureaucracy, and bribes all over the system. Even a simple task like acquiring a driving license requires a bribe or waiting an obscene amount of time in line (physically and metaphorically). What this country needs, more than news laws, more than a culture shift in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 02:02 AM |
| 3 | Feminists in general oppose gender neutral lawsDude you are literally invalidating a rape victim’s experience right now. That is textbook what your statement is. You are free to think one thing is worse than another, but to say that someone else’s view of their experience is fucked up is really stupid Don’t argue with people about their own experiences. It’s always a losing battle. If an acid attack victim said they’d rather be raped than acid attacked or inversely they’d rather be acid attacked than raped, while you may personally disagree … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Are men not also hypergamous?Your comments on this are extremely fascinating and well thought out. I’m surprised and glad to see a woman acknowledging this dynamic. One thing I will disagree is that if men stopped pursuing women, women would reluctantly pursue men. I don’t think that’s the case. We’re already seeing men stopping pursuing women everywhere outside of dating apps and women aren’t pursuing men at all. Maybe a few here and there but on the whole the phenomenon of women pursuing men is pretty much dead. I’ve met … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:49 PM |
| -1 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soWow, you didn’t listen to single word I said. Somehow you don’t seem to understand the difference between fantasy and reality. Go speak to someone in BDSM and try to learn something. There’s nothing more we can discuss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soI think you just have a problem with BDSM in general. The separation of fantasy and reality is one of the most critical things to understand when looking at a BDSM sub like this. The subs have far more to do with BDSM than any actual real life misogyny. Many women in BDSM would be appalled at how you’re describing it. Also, I didn’t look into the last sub enough in my last comment, that last sub literally has 3 people on it now. It’s literally irrelevant. If what you’re saying is true (about pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soYou seem to be very vague on definitions and you should take your own advice on learning statistics. Do I even have to explain to you how the populations of races differ? Do I also have to explain to you that many men with origins in Asia come to the US for educational opportunities? Explain the relevance of that statement? If there truly is a glass ceiling preventing everyone but white men from climbing the ladder then Asians coming here for education should struggle as well. If you do, I suppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:05 PM |
| 4 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soDude, this is the funniest and most telling reply yet. The first one is literally a BDSM porn sub, read the description. It’s both exploring a non-con fantasy, the rules of the sub specifically call out bigotry, homophobia, and are very clear about consensual non consent being a fantasy, not a real thing The other two are literally porn subs. Like 100%. Again it’s literally just porn with some spicy titles that are supposed to “degrade” women (even though the entire thing is pure play). Again it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soThat is such a weak sauce defense, everytime someone points this out someone brings up AVERAGE stats to argue a point no one was making. No one cares both the average. Just because there are some white male billionaires driving up the average doesn’t mean that the lowest echelon of that group isn’t struggling massively. Also in your own example Asians make the most money, white people were not even on top. It doesn’t matter since it’s an average, but your own logic doesn’t work. No one was argui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 10:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.I think you come from a good place and I’m guessing we’re about the same age, both younger than the cat rescue guy. I think that most of what you’re saying does make sense. But I also think that far too many people overestimate their own tolerances for the type of partner they’re willing to have. I’m not saying you’re misrepresenting yourself, but not everyone who says they’ll financially support a partner is actually ready or willing, or happy to do so. It’s work. It’s just that I’ve seen a lot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 04:19 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.Stop calling me out like that big bro. But seriously Jesus, this comment felt like everything I wanted to say out in words. Holy shit everything makes sense. I’ve volunteered and been around mental health advocacy and support spaces for a long time, well as long as someone my age can support it. If you can write with a bit of a “tortured artist” vibe you’ll have women come up to you with stars in their eyes and praise you. I had no idea this was happening at the time, only in retrospect. I don’t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Femininity is largely considered inferior to Masculinity and there are no good reasons for women to embrace femininityBy that logic there aren’t any reasons to be masculine anymore if you’re not looking to attract women. Men can let themselves go, play video games and get a comfy if not ambitious job and live their life like that, which is what’s happening now anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 09:19 PM |
| 11 | The bar is on the ground for men is an incredibly toxic statementNo, the problem is not with them having low standards. I hate the modern statement that anything you do wrong in dating is only because you don’t have high enough standards for your partners. That’s the equivalent of saying that you’re too much of a perfectionist in an interview. The problem is having an entirely wrong framework for dating and marriage. There are a million reasons for why a marriage got to the point it did that don’t have anything to do with the bar being on the floor. It has a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 11:05 PM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.That’s reasonable. I too hate the “easy mode” rhetoric from anyone, saying anyone lives life on easy mode only creates division. I also think that a lot of men forget that women don’t want casual sex as much as men so free and unlimited casual sex is not as appealing. That’s a fair point too. In the modern age women also face a loneliness epidemic and difficulty finding relationships, it’s just a fair bit less severe and widespread for women. I think one thing that men in this sub just can’t exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 12:36 AM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.I keep hearing this argument of “women hate each other” over and over but I don’t see it. I don’t think women are any more hostile to each other than men are to men. I think it’s expressed differently, but it’s the same stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 07:14 PM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.Wow do you have a link to that thread. Wild, if true. But the internet brings that type of behavior out in people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 07:01 PM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.🔫🚨🚔Illegal opinion detected. You will now be called a pick-me and sentenced for enabling the patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 06:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you want women to be open about their preferences, stop treating them as dealbreakers.I mean yeah, but it’s not really about that. It’s more the hit to self esteem that comes with it when you expend the amount of energy required to “fix” your looks with personality. The guy who approaches 2 girls a bar and has one girl reciprocate is going to feel much better than a guy who has one in 20 girls reciprocate (by which I mean actively respond to his conversation/flirting rather than deflect it and show disinterest). At the end of the day if a guy had to spend countless attempts and c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 12:23 PM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.This is the best explanation of it yet. People used to date within their classrooms and workplaces, it wouldn't be uncommon to view a few of them as potential romantic options (emphasis on the word "potential," they weren't thirsting for every remotely attractive person and asking as many of them out on dates as possible, it was more "idk but I'm open to the idea.") Nowadays people, especially women, are more likely to say they know zero dateable people in real life despite being better connecte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:54 PM |
| -1 | I don't buy the narrative that single, childless women are the happiest groupI think you’re greatly overestimating how easy that is. Sure you can get married to the hobo off the street, but is it a quality marriage? You can get knocked up overnight but have you set yourself up to have kids? You have to plan for all this and if you don’t your chances of getting it will be dramatically lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 09:26 PM |
| 4 | Misogyny on the InternetNo one said anything like that dude. All I suggested was that people actually help. I just don’t see anyone even attempting to help. Everyone just has excuses about why they can’t or won’t even try. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 07:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: being a stay-at-home parent is harder than being the breadwinnerNormally it’s in good practice to have the edited sections listed out separately after the original post so people can more clearly see what’s edited, now it’s just confusing for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 06:16 PM |
| 16 | Misogyny on the InternetI see that among my mother’s generation and maybe millennials as well. But as for Gen Z, they do it but they spin it very differently. No Gen Z girl would be caught dead saying they self improved to get a man or a bf, the narrative is “you are beautiful the way you are” and if a guy can’t accept you for that he’s not worth it. They self improve but it’s always for themselves. At least that’s what they say. Whereas Gen Z men openly admit that they get fit and attractive to attract a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 06:10 PM |
| 3 | Misogyny on the InternetThat last line unironically speaks to a different point that every blue piller seems to be missing. Struggling men can’t help struggling men. At no point him history has a struggling group of people successful dug themselves out of their own struggle. It’s always been done by getting the attention of outsiders, by making it other people’s problem, by protesting until people gave in. Like seriously, why is this so hard to understand? The red pill was literally struggling men trying to help strugg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Perspective on autistic dating, from an autistic womanThat’s not an excuse. You don’t have to be safe but you also don’t have to be hostile | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 05:53 PM |
| 21 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?I think people are overanalyzing this and spinning themselves into despair. You can’t tell. You can never tell whether in the most critical situation of your lives the partner you’ve chosen will do the right things. Sure, you can look out for obvious signs, like “being rude to waitstaff” or “having toxic friends” is relationship 101, it’s ridiculously rudimentary, you should already be doing basic stuff like that for every single person you meet. At a certain point you just have to take the risk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Women enjoy sex, but is it ever mentally "fulfilling" to them?That seems not healthy, but understandable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 03:40 AM |
| 0 | Why do women who have casual sex morally condemn prostitution?I’m a little suspicious of the claim that sex trafficking is higher in countries with legal sex work. I think there’s a self selecting sample going on. Those are reported rates. For one, I think there’s a bit of opportunity cost going on. Pimps will probably choose the countries with the least restrictive laws around prostitution in order to front as a lawful establishment. It’s not reducing the amount of sex trafficking worldwide, it’s just funneling them into a more specific set of countries. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Why do women who have casual sex morally condemn prostitution?What lol? I’ve never heard of that opinion, at least not from anyone who has the base understanding to be logically consistent from argument to argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 05:52 PM |
| – | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?There’s so much. For one, fund men’s shelters and houses. https://www.change.org/p/oppose-the-single-men-shelter-proposal-at-41-beekman-street/c There’s literally a change org listing that has almost 2000 signatures opposing the opening of this project. It’s practically all women. Look at the comments, like maybe 15% of them are men, and even then they aren’t viscerally condemning it like the women are. These Karens flat out say that no men’s shelter is safe for kids to be in the neighborhood of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 07:27 PM |
| – | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?Not to the same extent. I don’t get why this is always misunderstood. Both genders can have a problem but the problem can be worse for one gender. Sexual assault happens to both genders but it’s generally worse and more frequent for women. Victims aren’t taken seriously in general but there’s still a huge gap between male and female victims being accepted and respected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 07:12 PM |
| – | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?Idk man, it’s more chronically online to not be able to admit you were wrong. That guy agreed with the above commenters response, he did a lot more than just grasp it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 07:09 PM |
| 5 | The reason redpill guys don't date women like Pearl that agree with all their talking points is because they like the idea of "breaking" an independent woman.Honestly the fact that Pearl acts the way she does makes her look so much uglier. She gives off vibes of being the nasty PTA or HOA leader if she wasn’t being a political grifter. Putting down other people of your gender just makes you look universally ugly. There’s such a difference in the way non-political women (and men) and political women and men act. The man vs bear thing genuinely confuses “normies,” they picked “man” with no hesitation because they weren’t trying to be a contrarian edgel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 05:01 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?Stop making sense, this is the PPD sub where people use armchair psychology to generalize large groups of people and then yell at each other for not coming to the same unfounded conclusions. 🚨🚔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 08:13 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?Is he even struggling though? Sounds like he just doesn’t care. As long as he doesn’t whine or complain he can wait for his princess as long as he wants. They described a lot of qualities about him but nothing about any effort he puts in to meeting women. I’m guessing that’s because it doesn’t exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 08:10 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?That’s why you can’t use red piller terms to argue logical inconsistency. Everyone in every pill community has a different definition for “chad” there’s no definition for it lol. Some people think it’s a guy who’s physically attractive, some have the requirement of social skills, some have the requirement of dating success. I’ve seen tons of Redditors describe themselves as this type of guy and yet have no success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 08:07 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?Exactly, you need to have both looks and dating/social skills. You don’t need many skills as someone who’s truly unattractive physically, but you can’t coast on your good looks you have to put in effort. Even for beautiful women, guys expect a little bit of this at least. If she keeps responding with one word answers lot of guys will still approach her but few will stick around after the first attempted conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 08:02 AM |
| 3 | "Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agencySouthern states consistently have the lowest disparity between black and white incarceration rates. https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2021/images/10/13/the-color-of-justice-racial-and-ethnic-disparity-in-state-prisons.pdf I don’t even care about southern states, I don’t live in one. But are you doing any research at all? You have so much confidence in opinions that you aren’t backing up with any data. If you can find a source on sentence length I’d love to see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 09:19 PM |
| 5 | "Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agencyDo you understand what the “women are wonderful” effect even is? It’s not saying that women are automatically angels that are made of sugar, spice, and everything nice. Is that what was on your mind? It’s (often subconsciously) consistently giving women the benefit of the doubt in ambiguous scenarios. It is (often a small) bias that adds up over time. You are a cop who comes to stop a domestic dispute. You don’t know who did what because neither of them have serious injuries and both claim self … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 09:08 PM |
| 5 | "Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agencyFemale offenders of all races received shorter sentences than White male offenders during the Post-Report period, as they had for the prior four periods. https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2017-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing PS, everything that can be controlled of was controlled in these studies, that’s the bare minimum | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 08:56 PM |
| 2 | "Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agencyNo, the severity of the crime was controlled for in the study. Also they found that the criminal’s past did not have an effect on sentencing. It was the same methodology used to determine that black men get longer sentences than white men. https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2017-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 08:49 PM |
| 2 | "Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agencyThe study by the us govt controlled for that, and it was also the same methodology used to figure out that black men receive longer sentences than white men for the same crime https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2017-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 08:46 PM |
| 10 | "Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agencyNo, they controlled for that and it still persists. The same study with the same methodology used to identify the disparity in sentencing between black peoples and white peoples was also used against men and women and found that women of all races receive shorter sentences than white men. https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2017-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 08:44 PM |
| 8 | "Women are wonderful" mentality that bluepillers advocate for is actually disrespectful towards women because it removes their agencyLiterally yes. Being unaware of having a bias does not mitigate the bias. Most people think they’re fair but most people also have at least a little bit of bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issueI agree, people are living differently but I don’t think they have free will to actually pursue their goals, I think the vast majority have their choices restricted for them based on the economy or circumstance. There are tens of millions of people who want to date and get married or buy a house but can’t, even if they’re willing to put in the work. The current system just isn’t good, it seems to divide the haves and have-nots more strictly than ever. More people are having choices taken away fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 02:10 PM |
| 3 | How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement?Thank god there are some rational responses here, because holy shit this sub is actually terminally online. It’s simple: If I’m not related to either of them then I refrain from making judgements because I don’t have all the facts of the case and it’s best that we don’t play spectator court. If I know the person accusing (and especially if it’s my friend telling me), then 100% of the time I’ll believe them because I don’t make friends with liars. I’ll stake my reputation on their story. If it tu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 05:06 PM |
| 2 | How likely are you to believe someone who says they've been raped? What factors would influence your judgement?What is up with all the edgelords here? Can you not hear yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 04:52 PM |
| – | Hypothesis on the Bear Situation. Choosing Bear is a statement, not a real life decision.Nah, it's one thing to call someone a "snowflake" for declining to use pronouns, it's quite another to wildly and prolifically fantasize about rape and mauling as a hysterical overreaction to "Hey, maybe lone men should back off of lone women because it's stressful" Dude, you are twisting this into the most one sided argument I’ve ever seen. Who is fantasizing about that? Like seriously, I haven’t seen one comment like that. The first I’ve ever heard of it is from you. You can twist it backwards… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issueThat’s a pretty good take. I think there’s some nuance around “aspiration” though. And especially the generational and quality of life aspects of it. Sure, becoming a multimillionaire is 100% a pipe dream, it’s very rare and you need to be realistic. But I think goals like “Getting married” used to be a very common thing. Like 80% of people would eventually find someone and around 75% of those would work with their marriages. Buying a house used to be a common thing, now it’s not. More and more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 04:25 PM |
| – | Hypothesis on the Bear Situation. Choosing Bear is a statement, not a real life decision.I love that you think you've said something edgy here, when damn near every man who overreacted in hysterical fashion to the idea that women are uncomfortable around lone men in the woods with threats. This is just one threat on top of thousands in social media in the past few weeks. You didn't do anything surprising, in fact, your words are entirely predictable. Bro, this is the most edgy thing I’ve seen on this thread lol. That last sentence is just gold. You’re talking about this like it’s a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 04:06 PM |
| – | Hypothesis on the Bear Situation. Choosing Bear is a statement, not a real life decision.Yeah, the bear just wanted to talk about climate change and deforestation, not get dragged into a gender/culture war, smh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issueI think that you’ve explained it very well. It’s the natural charisma that most people have at least a bit of that always gets destroyed behind a screen. I feel like there’s just a lot of toxicity around this subject. People will either tell you you’re not optimizing your profile online or that it’s not that hard. Also a lot of men are nervous because of the “we can always tell” crowd. Women claim they can always tell when a man is creepy, or has low self esteem, or a secret misogynist, or is fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Women harp endlessly about entitlement and men feeling “owed” but in reality most people expect to be able get someone similar to them in all areas and framing this as “entitlement” is a deflection from the real issueIt’s not that tricky to compare, the only caveat is that you need to take the aspect of bare minimum survival out of it. Say you’re guaranteed a menial job that pays a just barely minimum livable wage where you can rent a small place and have a tiny bit of money left over, nowhere near enough for aspirations like cars or vacations or houses, that’s technically qualified as survival but it’s not a pleasant life. If someone wants to improve their life and puts in the effort, yet they’re stuck in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 03:32 PM |
| 1 | This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex.Fair enough, in that case the partner would probably like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/24 12:40 AM |
| 1 | This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex.Idk, girls don’t like being called soft and nice and that they smell good. In general, I just think women really dislike the idea of men (especially male friends) getting and sensory pleasure from their existence. It gives them the ick. They like to be complimented on their intelligence and personality. I don’t think you had any wrong intentions with this line, I think your post was otherwise very sweet. I just observed this attitude among women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 11:34 PM |
| 3 | This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex.Tbf I think the tolerance for a personal attack is really high here. I’ve seen so many “that’s why you’re so single,” “you’re (insert bad quality),” and “you’re the reason (bad thing happens).” Like, the mods would be worked to death if we made them count all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 11:25 PM |
| 5 | This sub is all negativity and debate. Post what you admire, appreciate, and enjoy about the opposite sex.It was going so well until the last paragraph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractiveI mean that’s kind of on you though. At some point one has to stop being a victim of their own personality. I’ve seen shy girls complain that the only men that pursue them are overly aggressive men that don’t care for social boundaries or “nice guys.” But a lot of them just expect a good man to approach them. Shy guys at least try. Sure there are some entitled neckbeard guys that do nothing and complain about women, but there are plenty, I’d say the majority, that try because they have to. Often… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractiveThat’s… what reasonable people do. WTF is this sentence. You don’t have to not agree with someone to criticize them. In fact this entire subreddit, nay the world, would be so much better if people that agreed with each other criticized each other just as much as they did the other side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractiveWhen? The last time I heard that was when stereotypical frat bros tried to make themselves seem more aloof by not caring about their woman’s needs. “Dude she wants to go on dates every weekend, she’s clingy.” These boys see caring about a girls feelings as simping. Women have terms like “emotional labor,” “mental load,” “manchild,” “coddled,” “mama’s boy,” The amount of times I’d see a severely mentally ill girl with perfect understanding boyfriend is astonishing. The guy would write notes every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 10:54 PM |
| 5 | Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractiveWhat is this point lmafo? If women were interested in pushing men to be great they would date men worth dating and see him succeed. Tell that to all the women who want an already established man or are okay with a deadbeat loser as long as he’s hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 10:40 PM |
| 5 | Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractiveThat’s because this question is dumb. What is nice anyway? Men are far more likely to risk helping a stranger out or do heroic actions, women are more likely to lend emotional support. Both are valuable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractiveBruh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 10:35 PM |
| – | Women are unable to handle rejectionlol, we should do a woman vs shark battle as an ode to the man vs bear battle. Sharks barely kill anyone and most are peaceful, women kill thousands of men a year, female partners alone killed 1100+ in 2021 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 05:22 AM |
| 6 | Women are more suitable as corporate slaves.You really think that that message will click? We’re on PPD my man. Also this is a point I like to make, having a partner can dramatically increase your standard of living in certain situations. Covid for instance, you either live alone or with people you like or with people you can’t be around for too long. Also, it would be great to get a bigger place pay half the rent, it would still be a lot lower than what it costs for a single bedroom/studio rent. Relationships help increase wealth but tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 01:57 PM |
| – | Why do women here try to assert that any man expressing frustration with dating must be undesirable or needs to improve in some way, and that they are some small fringe of the population?Honestly I had to do a triple take on when I saw your flair. This is way too nice and understanding for a woman on the topic of men’s dating struggles. The script says you’re supposed to tell men that every problem he’s ever had is self inflicted or resultant from the nebulous group of “other men” hanging out somewhere in the patriarchy. The only women I usually see saying things like you’re saying now are either very young <24, or old enough to be raising a growing son or grandson. I think part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 07:37 AM |
| 2 | Covert Narcissism and the Red Pill ManIt gets funnier dude. For half her studies there were links to the whole articles right there right next to the giant button “Full Text Links.” She just admitted that she spent less than 2 seconds on each article, because that’s how long it took me to find them. Either that or she’s incredibly tunnel visioned, which is an even worse quality for analyzing research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Covert Narcissism and the Red Pill Manare you going to pay for me to have an academic library subscription to read and cite each article? No? Then sit down. 2/4 of those articles had free links right there, under the headline. <image> You’d know that if you actually attempted to read literally anything on the webpage. Usually when people are called out they actually read the article, but you just admitted that you had so little interest in the article’s actual contents that you couldn’t find the button I found in 2 seconds. This is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Covert Narcissism and the Red Pill ManWhere are the actual articles? Dude, you just posted the abstracts of the studies. I really hope you’re joking here. Also what in hickory’s name is the relevance to red pill men or men in general? The first paper talks about adolescent behaviors in high school kids The second about about an NPD woman who has had poor interpersonal relationships The third is about how certain traits correlate to drug abuse and relapse The fourth is a about perceived rejecting in already established romantic relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 01:35 PM |
| 3 | Covert Narcissism and the Red Pill ManI don’t know if you know this but “large group of people I ideologically disagree with” is not that much better than “everyone.” People will always assign negative characteristics to those that don’t share their beliefs. Christians think non-Christians are sinners, (insert the litany of political mud slinging examples), red pill men think that women are (insert undesirable trait). What you’re doing is literally no different than when some dudes call feminists blue-haired, mentally ill, land whal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 01:06 PM |
| – | As a Man, the saying that "todays women are delusional in terms off standards" is not true. In the first time in 2000 Years, women can choose a Partner based on attraction and love only. This is a good thing.I think that point is quite fine but I think that both attractiveness and finances become shallow at a certain point if you take them too far. It’s the difference between saying “I’d like a reasonably modern, safe, reliable car that can carry all my things from A to B.” vs saying “OMG, I can’t be seen driving a 1999 Honda Civic that’s such a basic car. My car needs to have rolls out 20 pages of requirements and I won’t accept anything less because that’s what I deserve.” I’ve recommended cars to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 01:15 AM |
| – | As a Man, the saying that "todays women are delusional in terms off standards" is not true. In the first time in 2000 Years, women can choose a Partner based on attraction and love only. This is a good thing.Yeah there’s a difference between “any man that can’t make six figures is a failure and can’t be provider or good father. Providing is attractive and you aren’t a man if you can’t.” And “times are tough, if we were going to start a family together I’d prefer he make the around what I make so we can afford a reasonable lifestyle. It doesn’t have to be extravagant but I want to constantly worry about money.” Same as when guys say “women whose weight starts with 200 are just land whales not real wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 12:48 AM |
| – | As a Man, the saying that "todays women are delusional in terms off standards" is not true. In the first time in 2000 Years, women can choose a Partner based on attraction and love only. This is a good thing.Genuine question, do you think the dating scene is actually any worse today than it used to be and if so why? If there’s been no change but the discussion has gotten more widespread why do you think that it or has the discussion not changed at all either? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 12:42 AM |
| 4 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existSeriously, these comments are unhinged. They’re doing the exact same thing as cringe red pillers, boiling down the opposite sex’s behaviors into ruthless psychotic deterministic algorithms | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 12:12 PM |
| 5 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existThat’s … normal. I mean it’s your funeral if you decide to forgo a good woman over FOMO, but that’s just a human tendency. As long as you know the risks and accept them, it’s fine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 12:07 PM |
| 8 | Telling women they need to select undesirable men to avoid being cheated on doesn't work because prostitutes existDude you’re on the PPD sub, no one here is happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 12:05 PM |
| – | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?“I was dumb. I made a mistake.” Thats it. That’s accountability. No need to psychoanalyze it and they to justify yourself. The “I didn’t love myself enough” gives YouTuber apology video vibes. Cut the massive preamble about self esteem, and just get to the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 05:27 AM |
| – | How Should Women Hold Themselves Accountable?Picking bad partners because of low self esteem is a relatively rare problem, tbh. You have to be significantly damaged for that to be the only reason. The real reason is that you were dumb and thought with your heart instead of your head. It’s the same thing when people make bad financial decisions, or bad career decisions, or just bad decisions in general. When they realize it they use the sunk cost fallacy rather than cutting their losses. “Not having high standards” is a way to dodge respons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 05:23 AM |
| 7 | Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much?That’s literally every subject to a non-expert. The ignorant shouldn’t be voicing opinions on a subject they know nothing about, it’s like when people who’ve never worked on a car talk about working on a car, “There’s no way a car has that many parts, you’re just making stuff up” “Ma’am I assure you that a timing cover is a vital part and yes it costs that much to replace.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 05:14 AM |
| 8 | Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much?Whenever I see a guy talking about makeup, it’s always the most cringeworthy thing. They have no clue what they’re saying. Dude, you’re just embarrassing yourself. Very very occasionally though, there will be one unassuming straight guy who’s never worn makeup himself yet can do a dissertation on the chemical structure, color theory, cultural anthropology, biology, artistic history, and economics of makeup. It’s the equivalent of those “clueless white guy orders in perfect Chinese” videos. I lov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 05:04 AM |
| – | Neither genders are oppressedI think the commenter below explained it well enough. Oppression is an active term, that means that the people “on top” so to speak are actively limiting and excluding certain groups. Redlining is oppression. A homeowner who suspiciously never selects black tenants despite being in a black majority area is sus, but not oppression. That’s discrimination. Whoever’s doing the oppression needs to have significant power. It can’t be a group of individuals or “society” it needs to be more concrete tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:36 PM |
| 2 | What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed?That is a great point. The design of social media pushes users into agree/disagree dichotomies. Actually you’re on to something. I find that the questions/context is always very complicated or too broad. Yet the answers have to be very simple. A short joke comment that roasts the OP is more likely to be seen and upvotes while a long winding comment isn’t. Some social media is better than others but it’s a trend. We’ve gone from the Information Age to the byte-sized Information Age. Content is co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed?Doesn’t it? I think the boundary lines in this discussion are being blurred. Yes every human has dream like fantasies and desires like becoming a billionaire, but every human also has realistic fantasies and desires like owning a house and being financially comfortable. Determining which type of fantasy a partner goes into is becoming increasingly questioned. The “realistic” fantasies are things that are often a means to an end, living a comfortable life but you’re not too incredibly picky about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 10:03 PM |
| 6 | What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed?That’s because people with nuanced opinions can’t really “belong” to one of these political groups. Each political group has a mission and if you’re too critical of even one part of it suddenly you’re the enemy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 09:47 PM |
| 4 | Female hypergamy makes total sense for this one reason...Avoid all cities with a population over 1M. A lot of medium cities with populations between 100k and 1M will be better. New England has many affordable suburbs close to but not in cities, so does the South. Southern big-medium cities are still fairly affordable, semi urban Midwest is affordable as long as you stay a little outside the massive cities. Upstate New York is still good. The mountain region is getting less affordable in urban Colorado and Utah, but Arizona and Nevada are still not the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 03:16 PM |
| 5 | Female hypergamy makes total sense for this one reason...You seem to be using very confusing language. Your whole point stems from men specifically leaving their wives while they are pregnant to get out of paying child support. That’s a very specific situation. Yeah, a poor guy is more likely to do that because he can’t pay child support. A richer guy can just pay the child support to not have to deal with it. I’m baffled that this is your entire point to prove hypergamy makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 02:59 PM |
| 6 | Female hypergamy makes total sense for this one reason...You do know there are high and low cost of living areas in a country right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 02:53 PM |
| 24 | Female hypergamy makes total sense for this one reason...Uhh, what? You sound like a kid who hasn’t experienced a wide variety of people in different situations. I say that as a kid who hasn’t experienced a wide variety of people in different situations. But at least I’m self aware. Also, $60k a year isn’t exactly a low paying job. If he was 40 living in a high cost area then sure, it’s a struggle, but if he’s like 25 in a low cost area that’s absolutely doable if his wife works and brings in $40k or something. This also tells me you have limited gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 02:46 PM |
| 1 | How valid are womens fears of men?You bring up an entirely good point. And I’ve wanted to talk about this for a long time. In hegemonic masculinity stronger men are the less creepy, more trustworthy, safer ones. It’s not even in question. In fact, the buffer the better, as long as he can still smile and doesn’t have a terrible personality. That’s why you see so much positivity when a jacked gym bro offers to walk women across college campuses at night. And good for them, they can get some socialization in while also doing a good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 03:02 PM |
| 0 | How valid are womens fears of men?I think the fact that you specifically worked in an abuse center especially with extremely violent men is clouding your perception. Like, the fact that I used to counsel mentally ill people every day would lead me to believe the entire world has depression, but no, that’s not what’s happening. Every single person from every single walk of life, and every single reason, they’re all there. Yet the majority will never experience clinical depression. Even hypothetically 2-5% of men is an enormous ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 02:41 PM |
| -1 | How valid are womens fears of men?Live in a good neighborhood. That’s really it. The neighborhood makes more of a different than any other factor. It’s not perfect but it will dramatically swing the odds in your favor. On quiet gated suburbs there’s literally no one around at night, or at most times of day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 02:30 PM |
| 2 | How valid are womens fears of men?What are you even doing? Did you respond to the right comment because it makes no sense in context to his reply? He’s saying that objectively women’s fear of him specifically is not valid (and again, both he and the OP are not dismissing emotions of fear, but rather the objective reality of it) because he specifically won’t do that to a woman. But fears of other men are because there’s a certain percentage of men who statistically, will do those things each year. His comment was vaguely worded b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 02:24 PM |
| 5 | It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriendsThey’re not saying that in a sinister mustache twirling villain voice, lol. A lot of them are normal popular guys that allude to this in front of women, they’re just socially skilled enough to disguise it as a joke or just a bit of spicy flirting. It’s like those girls that openly admit to going on a date with a guy for a free meal but also wrap it up in a joke and a cutesy voice. You ever watch a Netflix comedy, or just a local bar comedy? You can pull this joke off you just have to do it reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 12:14 PM |
| 2 | If men go away women would not look backYou are right, women won’t be begging men to “come back” if they ever left in the first place. Realistically, it will be a slow creep in living costs. One day you’ll notice that shipping costs are really high, that’s because every step of the shipping industry is dominated by blue collar men. Gas is going to cost $10 a gallon someday if oil rigs have to shut down because no men are working. A studio apartment racks up $400 in electricity each month. It costs $600 to get your brakes serviced not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 07:42 AM |
| 5 | Women justify their biases against men all the time, but men are condemned for doing the sameYeah, that’s because men are killed a lot outside of intimate partnerships, whereas women are not. When you take a look at the absolute numbers it turns out that they’re comparable. If you want parity, advocate that men not be murdered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 08:32 AM |
| 2 | What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America?What even is this question? You can want kids far into the future, just not right now, it’s still something you should ask. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 01:15 PM |
| 4 | Women justify their biases against men all the time, but men are condemned for doing the sameWho decides if it’s too much stereotyping? Let’s take an example, in 2021 1100 men were killed by their female partners and 1700 women were killed by their female partners. Does that give women the right to be 50% more stereotyping of male partners? That’s ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 11:44 AM |
| 7 | Men, if you made $1M a year, would you want a bang maid or a 50/50 relationship?I guess we have a different definition of “ultra.” Don’t get me wrong, 1M is definitely, solidly rich but it’s not “ultra” rich. To me that means having enough money to throw it around Mr Beast style. 1M is a lot of money, but if you’re not careful it can go down the drain. At this point we’re just arguing semantics. You can keep going down the adjective soup rabbit hole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:49 AM |
| 2 | Do You Know a Guy That is Top 5% on Dating App?That sucks for your friend, he didn’t deserve to be betrayed like that. It’s awesome that he has a friend like you though. I think the guys in your life really appreciate you for your attitude | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:40 AM |
| 5 | Do You Know a Guy That is Top 5% on Dating App?Just checked out your profile. Yeah, it checks out. You are almost a perfect archetype for the type of guy that would get 1300 likes from women, you’re basically what I imagined in my head. I wouldn’t too surprised if you didn’t get many likes, a few very attractive guys in rural areas struggle, mostly because of external factors. But with a profile like yours and a bit of luck, it’s not surprising that your Tinder experience is like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:34 AM |
| 5 | Men, if you made $1M a year, would you want a bang maid or a 50/50 relationship?Their thought process is grounded all right … in money. I too know ultra rich people and while the “modestly” rich people have a traditional marriage with a loving lifestyle there are many who are busy signing prenups and making sure they know exactly who gets what in the event of a divorce, which happens a lot. Also 1M in income isn’t ultra rich, that’s still modestly rich. Inflation has reduced the value of a millionaire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:26 AM |
| 1 | The "quiet" male revolution.That last sentence is false, there are some but not many men who do that. Men are slightly more loose with their partner requirements but few will accept any woman. And no, before you say it, this sub is not a good sample of the general population | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:13 AM |
| 5 | The "quiet" male revolution.I think discourse on this has become so muddled. Most women aren’t getting desperate men simping over them with flowers and gifts like some kind of Victorian romcom. I like to break it down into a 10:40:40:10 distribution. 10% of women receive insane attention, not men falling over their feet, but rather lots of general interest from guys, all their male friends ask them out, they are convinced everyone wants them for their body and most of the guys do. The upper mid 40 get a decent amount of at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:00 AM |
| 1 | The "quiet" male revolution.It’s amazing some people can’t see that people will say batshit crazy things for views and money, and it’s working, he got the view because the commenter is talking about him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 02:47 AM |
| 7 | The "quiet" male revolution.That’s a poor comparison. Almost none of them start out by resigning themselves to be single parents though. A comparison would be women who buy sperm and impregnate themselves, then raise the child on their own, or just adopt. Very few women do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 02:45 AM |
| 3 | The "quiet" male revolution.This conversation seems to be devolving into semantics. Everyone agrees that no one strictly needs a partner to survive, you can have food, water, and shelter without one. And everyone agrees that two partners being so codependent they can’t function without each other for 5 minutes is bad. People seem to be struggling to describe the middle ground. There are so many ways in which one can “want” a partner. Languages other than English have lots of different words for degrees of “want.” You can w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 02:41 AM |
| 0 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Yup, it’s all about attraction, that’s really it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 10:13 PM |
| 1 | manosphere dudes are turning off the very women they are trying attract and seem oblivious to this.Is it just me or does this sound like an extreme opinion. I get having a preference for wanting your guy to initiate but why is it such a hard rule? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Those raised by parents/caregivers who didn't conform to gender roles, how did that affect your attitude to dating and the things you're attracted to?Man your life is a rollercoaster, and the lows were really low. Glad you survived that and got to a better place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 07:23 PM |
| 12 | Blue Pillers constantly respond to criticism or men venting with “well clearly your attitude/personality is why you struggle” but this makes zero sense, as venting anonymously online has absolutely nothing to do with how you interact with women/people in real lifeI mean, no one disagrees with that. The guy in the room screaming “FeMaLeS are all the same” is going to be pretty darn obvious. But I think most guys who are a little bitter and resentful of their lack of romantic/sexual success are pretty normal. A lot of people complain about tipping culture but few of them are cruel enough to stiff the waiter/waitress in that serves them. People can complain without ever treating the person they interact with poorly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 07:19 PM |
| 17 | Blue Pillers constantly respond to criticism or men venting with “well clearly your attitude/personality is why you struggle” but this makes zero sense, as venting anonymously online has absolutely nothing to do with how you interact with women/people in real lifeI mean, come on. Using the most extreme example to prove a point is not convincing at all. There are tons of people who host extreme frustration, sometimes vent it online but are perfectly nice, even successful, and seemingly happy in real life. The vast majority will never hurt a fly. Like, Hitler’s neighbors said he was a nice enough, ordinary guy. Ted Bundy was a charming, normal seeming dude. There are hundreds of counter examples to show that people cannot detect the most violent and derang… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Do men not care about having female friends?If you keep it to yourself you never have to defend your disinterest. Ever tried that? If you’re going to voice things publicly then get ready for people to scrutinize them and point out how dumb they are. I assume you have no problem vocalizing your views on men who get disinterested when they decide a woman is promiscuous based on some arbitrary trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 05:12 PM |
| 3 | Unsolicited dick picsIf there was consent, it certainly wasn’t intentional. The guy probably sent it hoping a portion of women would say yes and they did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 05:06 PM |
| 3 | Do men not care about having female friends?I don’t get how people keep forgetting the fact that 90% of rape/murder of women is committed by people the woman knows personally. Often by close friends and family. A guy being alone doesn’t mean he’s less safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?Yeah lol, no woman is dating 100+ dudes a year. Young women definitely date more often than young men, but it’s not two orders of magnitude different. The median guy probably has 1 relationship by 22 while the median girl has 2-3. And the portion of guys with zero is much higher than for women. Don’t quote me on that though just hypothetical numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:48 AM |
| 3 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?That’s not true for the very newest generation of young adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:44 AM |
| 10 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?He was saying the opposite, it’s supposed to take way shorter for the girl to be attracted to the guy. 4 months is way too long | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:40 AM |
| 2 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?It definitely is an excuse, but imo it’s far more true for women than men. For men, dating requires work that has to be done before dating since they don’t get asked out, putting yourself out there on its own doesn’t do much. For women dating begins when they accept a guy’s approach, for men it begins long before that. Finding girls your age that are single and open to date, approaching them to have a conversation or two, flirting, gauging whether she’s into you and whether it’s a good idea to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:36 AM |
| 2 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?How old are you, just curious. My social circle is the same, just out of college, 50% of the guys and 75% of the girls have a relationship. The guys who aren’t in that 50% have never had a relationship before, there are virgin girls as well, but they’re a smaller portion of the girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:27 AM |
| 6 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?But the relationship comes with benefits too. You can split rent which can save hundreds of dollars a month, you have someone to lean on when you’re sick, the chores are split, you have easy access to socialization. Really it’s been single that’s by far the more challenging prospect in career movement. There’s a reason married men earn more than single men. Married women without kids do better as well. It’s mothers who sacrifice their career. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:24 AM |
| 0 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?That’s been true from my observations too. It’s immigrant kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 04:21 AM |
| 2 | She has to like you moreI think the thought that sex is something a woman gives to a man is flawed, definitely. However there is something to be said about effort. Women can be horny just like men but they’re often less motivated to initiate sex. They like sex but they’d be okay to go without. It’s like an introvert who has a blast every time they go out but their friends have to convince them to get out of the house. The introvert is still reluctant to start even if they end up having the best time ever. I’ve seen thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:40 AM |
| 5 | She has to like you moreHonestly, if you believe that most men aren’t decent what are you doing here? You’ve given up on men. Unless you actively choose to confront that assumption there’s no progress that can be made. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:30 AM |
| 5 | Why whenever a divorce post is made the scenario is always assumes the woman met the man before he gets money.Don’t question the narrative, they need to believe that all women are money grubbing leeches for their theory to work. Ignore the millions of women who support their husbands | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many gay men get along with straight women?Then I’m sorry, he was an asshole and nothing warranted that kind of treatment. Sometimes long time friends turn out like that. I’m only saying it’s not something you can generalize to most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many gay men get along with straight women?Unsolicited dick pics is a completely different ball game. It’s not comparable to someone asking you out. There’s a very big difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 11:15 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many gay men get along with straight women?Then tell that to the rest of this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 01:02 PM |
| 0 | Why do so many gay men get along with straight women?“I’ve lost decades long male friends over this.” WHY is this a bad thing? It sounds entitled when you say it like that. Sometimes the friendship has run its course and it’s time to bring it to a close. Do you really expect them to be friends until death??? Sometimes divorce is better, sometimes leaving is better, desperately trying to keep I’ve a relationship that doesn’t deserve to be alive is stupid and counterproductive. Go make new friends. Don’t be desperate for the ones that will never be.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 01:00 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many gay men get along with straight women?Delusional. Most men are not like that. Either they fall for their friend after getting to know them for a while and take a chance, or they don’t want to be romantic with them, some guys definitely plan it all out from the beginning but they’re vastly smaller than the first group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 12:55 PM |
| 2 | How do you feel about the fact that women are encouraged to do things in relationships that men aren't?Do you have even the slightest sliver of evidence for this ridiculous claim? And no, saying “look at the men on this subreddit” doesn’t count. You can’t point to saturated cesspool of misanthropes, and make sweeping generalizations about men. Most normal men who want monogamy are, you know, normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 02:46 PM |
| 5 | Teen convicted of killing her boyfriend and his friend by deliberately crashing car they were riding in.W mod response | /r/PussyPassDenied | 05/03/24 01:16 PM |
| 17 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesDude, the study shows that men and women are functionally equal. 1.5 of the 2 hours that men have in extra leisure time comes from not sleeping. Men get 1.5 fewer hours of sleep. Men are clearly pulling their weight at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 08:09 PM |
| 10 | Men shouldn't dismiss so quickly the idea that unequal distribution of housework/childcare contributes to divorcesHuh, it’s weird that I tend to see concentrations of these 3 types of marriages: Dad breadwinner/mom stays at home, roles are very clear. (I had this one growing up). Strict 50/50 relationship: chores are split down the middle. (Mostly millennial couples) Mom breadwinner, also does all the chores, dad doesn’t really do anything, sometimes the dad pursues a passion although is usually not successful (my uncle and aunt) I don’t know why the third one exists tbh. For some reason it does. It’s so we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Too many people overthink datingYou still have a chance to make friends, especially if this isn’t your final year (and even if it is, it doesn’t matter). Most people are going to be more social in college than they ever will be the rest of their lives. If it’s hard to find people similar to yourself maybe think about the places other awkward people would visit to the clubs that they’d be in. Parties, and classes aren’t the only places to meet people Clubs and events are great. Try joining a club. If you’re not ready, wait till… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Too many people overthink datingConcerts and festivals sound like good idea. Meeting online sounds doable too, but where exactly (please don’t say reddit lol) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Too many people overthink datingI’m sorry, that sounds rough. Sounds like not a lot of people here are offering you empathy :( How long has it been since you were in school or college? Do you have any friends left from there you can catch up with? It’s not a long term solution but it’s something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 02:34 PM |
| 3 | Too many people overthink datingI believe you, you seem to be genuine from your replies, but I’d like to help you understand. You also seem a little older than many of the guys who struggle with dating. There are 5 problems most guys have when starting off. First off is knowing where to meet people Second is knowing who to ask. Third is knowing how to get a yes to a first date Fourth is knowing how to make a first date fun, make a good impression, and get a second date. And fifth is continuing to build a relationship from ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 02:23 PM |
| – | Why do you care what men masturbate to?It kind of is the same. A person’s past isn’t something that has no impact on their present. Does she have a crazy ex? How does she handle conflict? Does she have trauma? History of mental illness? Would you want to date a guy with a criminal record even if it’s all long in the past and he’s done the time and since cleaned up his act and has genuinely changed? Of course you’d still want to know, it has an impact on the present. Hell, a company can fire you for stuff you said 25 years ago. Whethe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 12:32 AM |
| – | Why do you care what men masturbate to?If you want to spend the time researching if what you jerk off to is ethically made or not then go ahead, be my guest. If we’re going down the ethically sourced route, there are many many more things more damaging than porn, where do you think the rare Earth minerals for your phone or every other electronic device you have coming from? It’s slavery. Hell, even if we take essential products out of it, it doesn’t get any better, most recreational stuff is unethically made too. Even if you take art… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Men should be able to safely approach women without fear of humiliation or being shamed, and there should be more venues other than bars for meeting womenNobody really approaches strangers, that’s actually pretty rare. A previous post discussed why women don’t like their friends asking them out and a distinction was made between close friends and acquaintances. Most agreed that the perfect middle ground was the approach acquaintances. However if you hang out with them in the same social groups you’ll have the problem of gossip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Gender misconceptionsFair enough, I think if we want to go further it’ll get really complicated and we’ll have to define a lot of terms but I think we can just agree that we live in different worlds and leave it there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Gender misconceptionsIt depends very much on the situation. If it’s a literal friend or a work colleague describing something very sus, yeah you should absolutely speak about what’s on your mind. As for Daniel, that’s on him, he made a mistake making friends with a guy like that and he deservedly feels bad about it. Good. Maybe he’ll think more carefully about the people he associates with. I don’t know the specifics of the situation (I watched a bit of his comedy but I haven’t come across that part), but if there’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 06:37 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid pissing off a girl on a first date when making small talk?Would it be different if you replaced employer with your mom or dad? You project a different face to every person you meet, for people dating that face has to be as attractive and charming as possible, it’s why you dress well on dates. Literally nothing about you is representative of your average state on a day to day basis when you come in for a first date. Introverted men put in their most charismatic self to talk to a stranger when on any other weekend they’d spend their time indoors by thems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Gender misconceptionsThat’s somewhat of a fair point but it ignores the realities of the situation. I don’t get the idea that male rapists have a decent enough best friend in the wings who could or would change them or at least call them out if not for whatever reason is limiting them. The men who do this either have no friends or hang out with other predatory people or are very aware of the social consequences and are really good at hiding it. Most men have like 2 close friends that they’ve known for a decade. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 06:08 PM |
| 1 | How much are men told to bottle up their emotions relative to girls?It’s always the same tired old argument. It’s the exact same when women complain about body standards, then men point out how women always criticize other women for their bodies and pick up on things men can’t care less about like thigh gaps and cellulite. Then women get offended and try to spin this into a way to put the root cause on men. Yet they fail to articulate the root cause of all gender issues. It’s the coach vs judge. The opposite gender enforces the gender role passively not actively… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 05:53 PM |
| 1 | How much are men told to bottle up their emotions relative to girls?Women absolutely hate to be called masculine. You just have to find masculine attributes that are looked down upon by women, there are several. Appearance wise it depends, some women purposefully go for a masculine or androgynous style | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 05:42 PM |
| 2 | How much are men told to bottle up their emotions relative to girls?And vice versa. If you describe a woman like a man in terms of strength or status it’s a compliment. If it’s personality it can go either way. If you describe her as a man in social appearance terms, comment about her body, or like her attractiveness then it’s a deep insult. “You have the ___ of a man.” Can absolutely be an insult, you just have to find what to fill in the blank with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 05:40 PM |
| 12 | Late bloomer men should absolutely not date younger womenThis is 100% a troll post. Lol, nothing you’ve said so far resembles the shape of an argument or intelligent thought it’s all just inflammatory fluff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 05:30 PM |
| 3 | Late bloomer men should absolutely not date younger womenGood point, it’s just that there aren’t enough of them to match all the late bloomer men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themNonverbal communication is different from social cues lol. Someone gesturing for you to come over is nonverbal communication but it’s still direct and clear communication. Someone touching you indicates that they want to touch you. Someone blinking faster than usual and making eye contact for 0.25 seconds longer than usual is not an indication that they’re attracted to you. This question was about asking someone out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 12:44 PM |
| – | Why do you care what men masturbate to?This is literally the woman equivalent of a guy asking about how many partners a woman has. Sure, if it’s important to you, go ahead. But it’s not information that you’re automatically entitled to know. Don’t be surprised that people find it weird when asked | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 12:38 PM |
| – | Why do you care what men masturbate to?Generally when someone says “you owned this dude” they haven’t owned anyone, they’re just agreeing with people who agree with them Besides that phrase has been out of date for years now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 12:31 PM |
| – | Why do you care what men masturbate to?If you’re going to spout an opinion online, especially if a lot of people think it’s dumb, expect it to be challenged. I’m highly doubtful any of the people here are arguing with their friends or partners about this irl, but if you say it on the internet expect to be challenged | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 12:26 PM |
| – | Why do you care what men masturbate to?That’s illegal, and who’s debating that anyway. I think everyone agrees that it should be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 12:24 PM |
| 6 | We’re constantly talking about guys jacking off to porn but what about guys jacking off to girls they know?Ikr, this is one of the most chronically online posts I’ve seen in a while. No one cares. This is such a non-issue. Do whatever you want, as long as the information doesn’t make it back to the someone who really would rather not know. Just keep private things private and everything is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themProperly socialized humans speak their mind and communicate their intentions for other people. Crazy idea, I know. If you want to work with social cues go to Japan or Korea, in the west and especially America being direct is the social cue. I’m sorry you struggle with basic communication, but this is how most normal humans operate. If you want something, take the risk and ask for it. There are risk/reward considerations whenever you do speak your mind but to rely on a vague and inconsistent set … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 11:49 AM |
| 2 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themYou could say that for 99% of posts on this sub imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 04:21 AM |
| 3 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themI mean that’s fine, isn’t it. Women aren’t entitled to give out romantic attention and men aren’t entitled to give out platonic attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themPeople don’t realize that everything has a risk and reward and that you aren’t entitled to anything even if you used to be entitled to it. That goes for men and women on this sub who assume everyone needs to act and think exactly like them for society or function. There will always be friction, it’s how you deal with the friction that is important. If you can’t deal with it that’s on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 04:09 AM |
| 3 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themThis is it. You should establish the nature of the relationship after a few meetups/encounters. Don’t wait for a year. It’s fine if things change later but accept the heartbreak it might bring in that case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 04:06 AM |
| 8 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themI think the confusion comes from defining what “hitting on you” means. From a girl’s perspective it’s all natural, the chemistry builds up. From a guy’s perspective it’s planned. There has to be a moment where he asks the question at which point there’s no ambiguity. Also what does “mutually agree” mean? Someone has to start that conversation, and it’s almost always the guy. Women often discount how much effort it takes to prop up a “natural” connection. You have to have one party leading and it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on them“Cues” don’t exist at least not anymore. In this generation, where people have atrocious social skills, women don’t know how to give out cues. There are thousands of posts on Reddit about a woman being utterly incompetent at this type of dating. Unfortunately if you want to socialize you have to make up for the other person’s lack of social skills. More true today than in the past. Socially well adjusted people, even if they can’t give or receive cues, can give and take rejection. That’s how peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 03:56 AM |
| 7 | Apparently women in your "friends circle" really dislike you hitting on themIs there a 100% percent reliable way to find out where she stands without asking? I thought not. If you don’t clear things up, don’t be surprised at the confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Most of the advice women give automatically weeds out introverted menPart of the systemic issue. 60% men aren’t hermits. The vast majority of men do enough socialization and would’ve gotten partners in another era, it’s just that the era has changed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Most of the advice women give automatically weeds out introverted menThe study you linked is 12 years old. That’s half a lifetime ago for the people who are now graduating and entering the workforce. I don’t know if you are actually a young current STEM graduate or what your experience is but having boots on the ground and listening to opinions is more valuable as to assessing the subjective climate of this field | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 07:45 AM |
| 4 | Most of the advice women give automatically weeds out introverted menA lot of STEM guys wish there were more women in STEM, but it’s just not happening. A lot of women from my generation say that they were pressured into STEM but they were actually passionate about something else, the dropout rate for women in STEM is high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 04:29 PM |
| 12 | Most of the advice women give automatically weeds out introverted menThis is what I keep saying, random encounters don’t produce that many couples. Most people today meet either through school, work, friends, or family connections, some meet through church and some meet on dating apps. Now take someone who’s not in school, who works from home, lives thousands of miles away from family and friends, has a few friends but none of them have a big social circle, isn’t religious, and doesn’t have success on dating apps. Plus your hobbies are mostly solo. Now you have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 04:26 PM |
| – | For all you - fertilityA Louise Perry enjoyer? Nice to see one. I loved her talk with Chris Williamson | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/24 07:04 AM |
| – | For all you - fertilityThat’s fair. I don’t get what’s so controversial about saying that older men and women have a harder time having and raising kids. It’s just a fact of life. Older dads will struggle to keep up with their kids, older moms will experience more painful childbirths. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/24 07:02 AM |
| 5 | So I went to Ask Feminists… It wasn’t that badHonestly, I think it’s a response to red pillers in their own language but they sincerely believe the wacky stuff they say. The core of the ideology is that men aren’t as complex, loving beings as women and women need to recognize that in order to survive in a relationship. You need to make men see you as the prize, manipulate men, be the “alpha” female (ie trophy wife). Men are naturally disloyal, you have to keep him “in line” Don’t show too much appreciation, make him feel like he’s lucky to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/24 05:41 AM |
| – | If a guy truly wants a healthy, romantic relationship, he wouldn’t be jealous of assholes that pumps and dumps and/or stay in toxic relationships.Well, at least someone’s trying something. https://fortune.com/asia/2024/02/16/south-korea-worlds-lowest-fertility-rate-seoul-mayor-city-sponsored-dating-event The Mayor of Seoul organized an event for people to meet. It was limited to 100 men and women equally divided. There have been a few events like this since mid 2023, lots of people had the “ick” reaction when they heard the local government was organizing it, and a lot of armchair activists said that the government wasn’t focusing enough … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 09:05 PM |
| – | If a guy truly wants a healthy, romantic relationship, he wouldn’t be jealous of assholes that pumps and dumps and/or stay in toxic relationships.I don’t love the comparison that dude made either, those issues are too extreme and too unrelated. However, dismissing the problem as “struggling to get laid” is very reductive and leads to the fundamental problem of misunderstanding that’s going on in this sub. If a guy “struck out” after talking to a few women at a bar one night and then complained about the world being unfair, that’s stupid and it’s totally justified to make fun of him. It’s one night. Thats what “struggling to get laid” mean… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 08:36 PM |
| – | If a guy truly wants a healthy, romantic relationship, he wouldn’t be jealous of assholes that pumps and dumps and/or stay in toxic relationships.They do, ever heard of prison rape? They’re just as angry at these men for taking out their sexual frustration on people which leads to more violence. It’s just that prison is something most civilians never hear about and don’t care as much. I could make the same case about children struggling in Africa, having to eat bread laden with maggots. That’s a bigger issue than the glass ceiling or whatever that western women deal with, but you don’t care enough to donate more than a few dollars a year.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 07:53 PM |
| 3 | If a guy truly wants a healthy, romantic relationship, he wouldn’t be jealous of assholes that pumps and dumps and/or stay in toxic relationships.Exactly people who have gone long enough without having one will downgrade their expectations to have something else entirely. It’s just how people work. I’m surprised everyone on this thread is surprised by this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 07:38 PM |
| 4 | If a guy truly wants a healthy, romantic relationship, he wouldn’t be jealous of assholes that pumps and dumps and/or stay in toxic relationships.Honestly, I’d refute the point about girls who want love not being jealous of gold diggers. What on Earth makes you think that’s the case? If a girl really wants a relationship, she’s not going to want to be in the exact same situation as the gold digger but she’ll 100% be jealous. It’s not so much “I wish I had the opportunity to be a gold digger” it’s “I wish I had the same opportunities and the same level of interest directed at me from the people I desire” as the gold diggers. You can make t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Guys Opinion about this last statement?Insert something about punching down and class struggle that’s the best explanation I’ve received from them and it’s not very good. If you press some of them hard enough you’ll get the quiet part out loud: the world is biased against women therefore men or the world or society owes us. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/24 03:27 AM |
| 5 | Guys Opinion about this last statement?I think you hit the nail on the head. I might even bookmark this comment for future reference Edit: I went to dig up a comment I saw earlier today it’s this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bumble/s/xC7lh8p0fc Men are expected to “police” other men to help women because women are the historically oppressed class. However, I highly doubt she would do anything about the social issues of men. It’s other “not a real problem” or “not women’s fault” or “yes but women have it worse,” depending on the mood… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/24 06:26 PM |
| 5 | Guys Opinion about this last statement?Conservatives like Josh Hawley play into the culture war but they don’t care about men at all. He voted against the bill it make the draft gender neutral, and appealed to other conservative men to not let their daughters and nieces fight in war. They have a weird obsession with social Darwinism. Interesting the left does much the same thing when they run out of options for moral grandstanding. They’re willing to send men out to fight wars they want to fight and they once again use social Darwini… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/24 11:21 AM |
| 20 | Guys Opinion about this last statement?It isn’t even that they say men don’t have problems, I find that a lot of left wing creators have a dogma that limits what men’s problems should be. They claim men are only suffering from a few specific problems stemming from patriarchy. Men are “suffering” from misogyny, leading them to be unable to connect with women The male loneliness problem is down to men being hyper masculine and not showing affection to other men Men “suffer” from a lack of teaching of consent. (It’s great to set up this… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/24 11:13 AM |
| 2 | Most of what gives women the "Ick" is just what got you called "Gay" by dude brosHonestly, this is the core of the problem I have with people who use the patriarchy as a talking point. You assume that patriarchy has a major influencing force on the attitudes and cultures of society but never what any modern or even 100 year old cultures (which don’t derive from patriarchy) do to influence society. It’s like the logic works backwards. Instead of looking at society today (the only one you’ve lived in), and working backwards to find what forces shape it, you start with the theo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:18 AM |
| 2 | Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept"Again, most normal men aren’t doing that. Maybe they’ll go to a club once in a while when they’re single, but the vast majority get partners through these 5 ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 06:34 PM |
| 7 | Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept"First off the “billions of women” is such a stupid talking point, and I’m confident you know that it is deep down. Even if you met a new person every hour from now on you’d never even make a dent in the “billions of women.” Your extended social circle is maybe a few hundred people. That’s it. Long distance relationships make up a vanishing fraction of all relationships. Most people just date someone around them, whether through school, work, friend/family connections, church, or dating apps. If … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 06:15 PM |
| 7 | Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept"Dude, what? Most guys don’t get shot down 3-4 times a night. Most guys don’t even ask 3-4 women a night, or a month. The vast majority of guys with partners meet their partners at school or work or through friends and family and some met through religious organizations or through dating apps, that’s what normal men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 06:01 PM |
| – | Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept"Lol, you fell for the Red pill guy’s troll. It’s pretty clear you weren’t expecting that and came up with weird and unrelated tangents to take a dig at him because you couldn’t admit you were wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 05:52 PM |
| – | Women on this sub really need to stop calling men who struggle in dating "socially inept"Who exactly is doing that? Also who the fuck thinks that the misanthropes on here want to date each other? I can assure you that no one here is planning to date anyone else here. Arguing on this sub does nothing for your real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 05:48 PM |
| 1 | "Ugh. I'm gonna be on the dad's side."I think in a lot of cultures, Asian cultures specifically. The paternal grandparents are a lot more involved. The husband and wife live with the paternal grandparents as a joint family and the grandparents help raise the kids. Obviously, I think traditions should be followed in so far as the people want to follow them and I’m sure that in come cultures it’s the inverse but the point is that it doesn’t matter. You can just create your own micro culture in your household. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/02/24 03:22 PM |
| 12 | Men who complain about not getting casual sex don't put themselves in the right environments.I feel like men are a bit more qualified to talk about their experiences than women are to talk about men’s experiences. Maybe you and your friends approach a diverse group of people, but you just know that. Men know who they get approached by and who their friends get approached by | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/24 04:47 AM |
| 12 | I have a question for LeftWingMale AdvocatesThe majority of the right started being concerned when they realized that birth rates were going down, the economy was tanking, and men were getting unfit for war, before that they were content to blame video games and call men who didn’t make it losers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/02/24 02:28 PM |
| 4 | I have a question for LeftWingMale AdvocatesI think an even better way to describe it rather than masculine/feminine is lead/support roles or pilot/copilot roles. Support roles are extremely important. I think for a long time, starting with the Industrial Revolution, they have been overlooked as individualism took over and everyone became their own leader. In some ways that’s good but people started focusing on hyper individualism and forgot how to coexist. The support role is a very important one, and it’s not always a “feminine” role. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/02/24 02:26 PM |
| 7 | I have a question for LeftWingMale AdvocatesWow, thank you so much for saying this. I think I finally know how to describe it. It’s true, these women act like a caricature of a man because they don’t understand what men are actually like. Men and women are judged differently. But it’s not in a men good women bad way that people who subscribe to the theory of patriarchy believe. In many ways men are judged worse, in some ways better. The most masculine men I’ve met are Mr Rogers/Bob Ross types. They are strong, calm, don’t break down in ti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/02/24 02:17 PM |
| 3 | It seems for the average guy every woman is suddenly "demisexual"I don’t know why there’s this belief on PPD that all the men on here are goblins who haven’t seen sunlight since ‘09, the vast majority of people lurking here aren’t 300 pound Cheeto dust-covered, fedora wearing, nerds. Most are normal people. Most have lives and blend in with society. If I had a dollar for every time there was a “oh no, I found out my totally normal friend has red pill views, how could this happen?” I could buy this website. Even though a person holds (on the extreme end) resen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 07:32 PM |
| 13 | If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of themIt’s like asking someone for help on calculus, and they tell you to learn algebra better. A: Hey dude, I can’t understand this, have any advice? B: It’s simple, all you need to do is understand the basic foundations of algebra and the rest will flow naturally. A: Okay, but I already know algebra, and I’m pretty good at it, what’s next. B: No no no, you need to really understand the basics. Like, it’s really important, start there and you’ll figure out the rest A: No, I know all that, I’ve been d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 02:04 AM |
| – | The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurdYeah, I get that, it can be hard to tell if someone means most women/men or some women/men or if they mean a specific group of men to women. Like one of the biggest gaps I see is what people under 30 and over 30 have experienced. Life is completely different socially. Today the advice that worked in the past isn’t working anymore. So when people say women/men they almost always are talking about their own age cohort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:41 PM |
| – | The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurdOf course not. The majority of married women are in good relationships. A feature of toxic relationships is that they typically don’t last. Where are you getting crazy ideas like that from? The metaphor is what you make of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 08:50 PM |
| 1 | AI, Augmented/Virtual Reality PartnersI mean it will take men off the market, some of whom might have found partners in another era. Dating isn’t perfect and people won’t date indefinitely, at a certain point they will get tired and give up. Just because they can’t find a date in this system doesn’t mean they can’t in any system. Women who can’t find partners have their own consolation prizes. Pets, hobbies, romance novels, idk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 06:11 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about platonic co-parenting (non-romantic family creation)? That is, finding a partner to create a family with you're not actually in love with.Uhh, what? Obviously nuclear families are ideal but what are you going to do if they just don’t happen, despite people wanting kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 04:20 PM |
| 3 | What do you think about platonic co-parenting (non-romantic family creation)? That is, finding a partner to create a family with you're not actually in love with.Idk, maybe you really want a kid but don’t want to be a single parent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?What country do you live in where it’s easier to date Hindu and Muslim guys than Christian ones? I’m guessing it’s not America or another western country because it’s easy to find Christian guys here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 11:04 AM |
| 1 | AI, Augmented/Virtual Reality PartnersI don’t think this is a replacement for that, but rather something for people who don’t have that, tried and failed, and probably never will. A consolation prize is better than nothing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:51 AM |
| 1 | AI, Augmented/Virtual Reality PartnersI mean people already escape into video games, movies, and TV. It really just seems like a different form of entertainment, just designed to scratch a different itch. Some people can’t get relationships. I think we just need to accept that. Some people are disabled, some are physically isolated, socially isolated, autistic, mentally unwell, etc. This clearly isn’t being marketed to fit, healthy, people with good social lives, it’s for those who that’s not a possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:46 AM |
| 1 | What is the best way for a man to understand sex from a woman's point of view considering they have different equipment?I think most men know this, OP just explained it really badly. It sounds like there were two separate dildos but that’s an easy detail to miss | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:28 AM |
| 0 | What do you think about platonic co-parenting (non-romantic family creation)? That is, finding a partner to create a family with you're not actually in love with.I’m fairly sure the living together bit isn’t part of it. The child would have two homes and you can either have casual relationships (unrelated or the kid), or a committed one and they’d be a step parents. Basically it’s like what happens with divorced couples except they were never married to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:21 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about platonic co-parenting (non-romantic family creation)? That is, finding a partner to create a family with you're not actually in love with.Honestly, it just sounds a lot more normal when it’s presented that way. Just call it two-household parenting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:18 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about platonic co-parenting (non-romantic family creation)? That is, finding a partner to create a family with you're not actually in love with.Idk man, I’ve been hearing this idea a lot. A decent number of women just want kids and only kids and they’re fully willing to do it alone. Some do this because of a lack of options, but some want this. Adopting a slightly older child is popular, you skip out on the physically hardest years and can fulfill your parenting dreams as a single adoptive mom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:16 AM |
| 0 | What do you think about platonic co-parenting (non-romantic family creation)? That is, finding a partner to create a family with you're not actually in love with.I was under the impression that these platonic co-parents wouldn’t be living together, it’d be like a divorced parent’s house hold. Kid gets to stay with one parent 50% of the time and then the other. It’d only work if they were able to live close together for the lifetime of a kid, otherwise one parent gets primary custody. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:13 AM |
| 4 | What do you think about platonic co-parenting (non-romantic family creation)? That is, finding a partner to create a family with you're not actually in love with.India’s age of population growth is over, the birth rate is already below replacement levels so the population will fall over time, and for a country that’s as overcrowded as India that’s probably for the best | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:09 AM |
| 15 | Is the the old cliché “you’ll meet someone when you’re not expecting it” true for men?They got lucky. I know what you’re saying but that doesn’t seem like a great way to go about it, for every guy that didn’t “actively try” and ended up with a partner, there’s a guy who hasn’t had his first kiss at 49. If the alternative is a passive lottery then men have to do stuff to increase their chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 10:06 AM |
| – | A majority of men underestimate just how good-looking they are.- All of human history | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:35 AM |
| – | A majority of men underestimate just how good-looking they are.I feel like the AI is definitely inflating the numbers (seriously why’s the minimum a 6.5?). It sounds like a scheme to get more test data for another AI honestly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:33 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.I find that that hierarchy works in many places. Men make up the most extreme ends of the spectrum and women fall close to the median. Men make up the highest earners, most stem graduates, most business owners, but they also make up the majority of those struggling in school, unemployed, homeless, and incarcerated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:26 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Exactly, race, gender, and even attractiveness pale in comparison to the amount of privilege you gain just by being born into a wealthy family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:23 AM |
| – | The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurdEh, there were other issues with the OP’s bf. I agree that people were hyperfixating on his age when his actions were more concerning but idk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:14 AM |
| – | The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurdWork on themselves. If you’re attracted to people who are bad for you, that is a you problem. Our preferences are largely based on the type of people we grew up with, and the things we value, and that is a malleable thing. Self-reflect, go to therapy, introspect, understand why you are the way you are, figure out what you want for your life and for your future, learn to be straight-forward, learn to be socially-discerning (ie spot “bad boys” from a mile away), change your lifestyle. And most imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 09:08 AM |
| – | The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurdYeah what’s your actual point? Is it that we should be at the mercy of our whims and desires and not try to change at all? Some parts of attraction are within your control, that’s indisputable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 08:49 AM |
| 1 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toAny evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 09:39 PM |
| 0 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toWhat kind of man is openly and unironically saying that he wants to trap his gf into not leaving him? People usually hide that. Do you even think that kind of man would take advice from another man or anyone else seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 09:34 PM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?One of them attributed it to them just being more confident and in tune with themselves after transitioning. It exists but it doesn’t seem to be a dominant feature, rather it’s about how they didn’t realize that men had problems they didn’t even think about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 08:06 PM |
| 2 | People go about separating feminists and traditional women from each other in a very disingenuous way. And this is harmful for male issues.Yes, there’s a point to be made both women not having the freedom to choose any job they wanted, but that ignores all of human where men have been slaves, serfs, laborers, factory workers, or other jobs that they were undesirable even at their time. Only the rich and powerful men had good jobs. It’s only in the 1950s that the majority of men were able to find gainful employment with the bare minimum of workers rights whereas women weren’t. 20 years later that was fixed with Title 7. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/24 03:21 PM |
| 7 | People go about separating feminists and traditional women from each other in a very disingenuous way. And this is harmful for male issues.Exactly. Women had a role in society. Was it restrictive? Yes. Is it outdated now? yes. Did they have zero power or influence? No. I swear sometimes people think the Handmaid’s Tale is real. The Handmaid’s Tale is just 1984 for women and feminists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/24 03:17 PM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?Suicide isn’t a decision it stems from a disease, an illness. It should be treated like any other health issue. For the rest of your examples, every one is a strawman. It doesn’t matter if men are assaulted by other men, that doesn’t make the average man’s life any easier. In fact you’ve almost perfectly argued yourself into repudiation. The fact that a few very privilege men benefit from patriarchy does not outweigh the suffering of men that don’t. It doesn’t even come close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 07:22 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?I mean transgender people exist though. Obviously, they can never simulate the experience of growing up and experience life as a cis person but they do have some insights. Like this, transmen have had some of the most heartbreaking experiences after transitioning to becoming a man: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fwp%2F2018%2F07%2F20%2Ffeature%2Fcrossing-the-divide-do-men-really-have-it-easier-these-transgender-guys-foun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 07:13 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?I think death is a very bad comparison to anything, no one here has experienced death and lived to tell the tale. Death seems easy because there’s no suffering. Compare it to something that you’ll have to live with and that will be a fair comparison. Also suicide isn’t about death, it’s about the years and years of mental suffering before death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:58 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?Yeah, but the percentage of “friends with the CEO” men are vanishingly small, most men will never see that happen. If you’re jealous that you can’t do that because you’re a woman, then I think you’ve got the wrong idea. You wouldn’t be able to do it if you were a man either. It’s like being upset you aren’t eligible for the lottery, like yeah sure but even if you were you wouldn’t win anything. The average benefit is zero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:53 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?What exactly do you define as “normal life”? For most people that’s having friends, and marrying and having kids, that’s easier for women. Friends is probably the same for men, but getting married is harder for men. Biologically things are harder for women, socially things are easier for women. Women don’t have to worry both being perceived as weird, creepy, anywhere near as much as men. Both men and women are more sympathetic to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:50 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?CEOs make a tiny number of people, it’s really dumb to use them as a measure of social progress. Middle management is where it’s at and where the vast majority of women and men will stay. In the US 40% of middle management is made of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:46 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?Interesting, I’d have said something very different. I think at the highest end lowest level of society men have an advantage, much more so for the latter. At the lowest level, being physically strong is vital. Being in a bad neighborhood, homeless, in a war zone, or just desperately poor, you wouldn’t want to be a woman there. Similarly I’d prefer to be a male celebrity than a female one, although that’s a very small gap because both are very privileged. At the middle of society where 60-80% of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:43 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?I mean, the stats are fine, but what it shows is that sexual assault isn’t really a unique crime in terms of how it’s prosecuted. It’s very difficult to prosecute, the more severe the crime the harder it is to prosecute, and sexual assault is one of the most severe. Only 2% of robbers and 3% of physical assault perpetrators go to jail is in that sense sexual assault isn’t unique. More criminals should be prosecuted, that’s for sure, but it’s a problem involving the entire foundation of the curre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:32 AM |
| – | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?I definitely agree with this. But it’s surprising to see a woman say that women have it socially easier. The vast majority of women deny it and bring up something like women being ignored in the boardroom full of men, forgetting that men get ignored for the same reasons. Men just have the shyness beaten out of them at a young age whereas women don’t. It appears to be an advantage for men, but it’s actually one for women. There’s a more broad range of acceptable personalities for women. Physicall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:23 AM |
| 3 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toWhat lol? Men like shy girls because it’s cute and because it suggests they’re hiding a personality that they don’t show everyone. That’s the appeal for any shy person. It’s wild that every time a man has a preference it’s twisted into some scheme with ulterior motives. There’s way too much armchair psychology going on here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 05:54 AM |
| 4 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toUhh, you should take a look at the name of this subreddit. If you have a problem with “Chad”, that’s the least of your worries | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 05:50 AM |
| -5 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toWould a person who’s “absolutely unbothered” explicitly mention that they’re absolutely unbothered though? 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 05:48 AM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingIf you’re old enough to not be single in 10 years you’re definitely out of the peak dating app age demographic. People who got a taste of what dating was like before apps vastly prefer real life dating, but people who came of age in the late 2010s or later have only grown up with apps. Meeting in real life is about half as common or less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:01 PM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingThat happens for some people, usually people who go to clubs are looking for the type of people who frequent the clubs. But the general population isn’t meeting at clubs. A big portion of young people meet on dating apps, through school or college, friends or family connections, or work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 05:58 PM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingNah, OP has their head in the clouds and desperately needs to touch grass. They say the average man has friends they see every weekend (not too uncommon), and friends they take trips with like going to Ibiza and post pictures of that on social media. Dude what, that only happens on social media. People who are privileged enough to have money post that stuff to make other people think they have the perfect life. You never see the boring parts. Social media is not life. In reality the average guy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days?I guess it’s not so much a status symbol in terms of glamor as it is respect. To me, guys respect competence especially when you do something difficult and succeed. What it signals is that “oh this guy probably has social skills, is well put together, and knows what he’s doing.” Obviously it doesn’t go automatically for any random guy. The tons of Reddit stories about terrible boyfriends and the misdiagnosis of “the bar for men is on the floor” by women who failed to raise that bar says otherwis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days?I think it’s a status symbol precisely because getting a gf, any gf, is a difficult thing to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 05:59 AM |
| 9 | Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days?For men having a girlfriend, if she’s relatively pretty and not obese is a status symbol. For women making a boyfriend a status symbol is a bit harder and more involved. People care way too much about what their friends think of their partners and way to little about what older people in their life think because older people will prioritize character and young people will prioritize looks. “Aww he’s such a sweet guy, why don’t you like him?” “Mom he watches… anime, and all my friends have decide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 04:11 AM |
| 7 | Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days?I think it’s because most guys here are young and every young woman they know uses social media at least a little, and most modern dating problems are focused on the youth. It’s like people under 30 live in a different world compared to those over 30. If you are over 30 or hell even 25, this is going to seem weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 04:04 AM |
| 2 | “genuinely kind guy” is a rebrand of the “nice guy”Never heard of Substack before, but it sounds really cool. I should check it out. And thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 01:20 AM |
| 5 | “genuinely kind guy” is a rebrand of the “nice guy”Yeah I get the comparing people to cars thing kinda triggers alarm bells because red pill bros will call a girl with many sex partners “high mileage” and other weird stuff like that. It’s a “look deeper” flag but it’s not indicative of a person’s quality. I treat cars like people, not people like cars. Each has a unique story and a place in this world. There are a few truly bad ones, but most have something at least a little quirky or unique about them. They deserve love. I’m glad your marriage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:21 AM |
| 11 | “genuinely kind guy” is a rebrand of the “nice guy”The fact that you are a woman and calling this out is wild. I’ve seen it before but they usually get called pick-me and are dog-piled with retorts until they cave into the peer pressure. But I think I know the answer, I think you know the answer, I think it’s obvious. There’s a huge segment of the population that values excitement and thrill over safety and practicality. Men included. Time for a car analogy. Henry is a 2006 Range Rover, our hypothetical sincere and respectful guy Ali, is a 2023 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 05:46 AM |
| 3 | “genuinely kind guy” is a rebrand of the “nice guy”I venture that most people, probably the majority of people have been actively taught to be nice as kids. Let’s say 70% at least. Over time you realize that kindness in its traditional forms (being giving, helpful, and pleasant), is not the only kind of kindness. You learn that some people are aggressive takers, and some people are just emotionally messed up. If this stage goes badly, you become one of the not-nice people because you’ve been taken advantage of and are resentful. Okay, so you lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 04:01 AM |
| 3 | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”I think that’s a great topic for a post. It’s that horniness, for both genders is looked down upon by society. It’s thought that for women, it’s easy to have casual sex, it basically free pleasure (it doesn’t matter if the assumption is correct it just matters that it exists). So a woman who has a lot of that is seen as a loser. Quantity matters though, occasional use is seen as fine, but constant engagement is derided. For men, a horny guy can’t have all the sex he wants, he actually has to hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 04:34 PM |
| 9 | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”I think I’ve got it. It’s because society views pleasure, not just sex but all pleasure, as unvirtuous. And yeah, there’s nothing virtuous about it. But somehow the denial of pleasure is viewed as virtuous. It’s that Stanford experiment that show how children with delayed gratification do better in life. This is the reason why women who have a lot of sex and men who watch a lot of porn are looked down upon. Those are equivalents. It’s seen as easy, cheap pleasure. The woman probably didn’t have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 04:16 PM |
| 5 | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”I totally agree, except with the dating apps part. Dating apps are fundamentally flawed in their customer model and don’t exist to help you at all. They exist solely to make money for their owners. It’s capitalism. It’s fine if you want to use them but they should be called out for what they are: money making schemes, not useful social tools. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 04:01 PM |
| 3 | “Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].”For someone who criticizes someone else another social awareness, you have no social awareness. The subtext of his hyperbolic example was that women a woman freaking out over a normal interaction with a man is abnormal and will only be taken seriously by the terminally online. You could really do with some social skills yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 03:57 PM |
| 3 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."But it isn’t life. The “bottom” has been doing much better in the modern era. In the feudal era everyone but the elite was the bottom, there was no middle class. The “bottom” today is living like a king in ancient times. Now we’ve decided that radical inequality is kinda bad. So we’ve fought for better conditions. Society will get worse if we return to social, economic, and political inequality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:38 AM |
| 3 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."“Grade A American beef stock” This has to be a troll account | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:35 AM |
| 2 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."Horseshoe theory once again. This is exactly what the redpill believes, now apparently a blue pill woman does too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:34 AM |
| 4 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."It’s pretty bad for everyone. The lesser of two evils is still pretty evil. Let’s not whitewash what divorce does to everyone involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:29 AM |
| 7 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."But living costs are way higher. In the past a single income was enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:28 AM |
| 7 | Does the Destiny situation prove that redpill is right?Most? No, that’s ridiculous. More than previous generations? Yeah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Debate : People dont understand that Money and status makes you GENUINELY more sexually attractive as a Man.They’re not instantly attracted but a woman making similar or less money would consider him a prospect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 09:28 PM |
| 0 | Debating women's preferences won't lead to women changing themIt depends on what stage in life you are. Teen girls like the boy band guys in their teens and 20s because they look young and “cute.” You won’t see many older woman calling older men cute because that’s not what they’re looking for anymore | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/24 01:18 PM |
| -1 | Debating women's preferences won't lead to women changing themHow is that a revelation? I’m not saying you’re wrong or right but a lot of people idealize the young, vivacious, fertile women plus wise, weathered, experienced male. Most of the reason femininity is associated with youth is because of child bearing abilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/24 01:12 PM |
| – | Females are way creepier towards males than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other wayOut of the 5000 publicized lynchings from 1865 to 1965, only around 1% of them were of black women, the rest were men. The patriarchal white supremacists didn’t say “black people bad,” they etched on their lynching sites real phrases like “we will protect our wives, mothers, sisters, and daughters” because they believed wholeheartedly that they were being social justice warriors that they were combating evil. They published pamphlets and posters about the typical southern woman being terrified t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 04:34 PM |
| 7 | Females are way creepier towards males than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other wayYes. But why are you trying to frame it as an “issue between men” rather than a societal issue? That doesn’t make sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 05:10 AM |
| 5 | Females are way creepier towards males than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other wayWTF is this reasoning? Also it’s not men that are most at risk, it’s boys. I don’t know why you constantly excuse the behavior of women. They have the soft power to influence culture. For one, the vast majority of adults that little boys interact with are women. In daycare, school, and even at home. They teach boys these things. Men aren’t socially allowed near children because of the idea that every man who likes kids is a predator. Go on any teacher forum and talk to a male teacher, its pages … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 05:04 AM |
| 2 | Females are way creepier towards males than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other wayYou really think that being a woman automatically makes someone more empathetic? Didn’t a woman just strangle you? It has everything to do with character and culture and not gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 04:54 AM |
| 8 | Females are way creepier towards males than vice versa, but society mostly looks the other wayWhite women get less harsher sentences than white men. That’s very well established. Black men get harsher sentences than black women, or any white people. The darker your skin is and the more masculine you are the less society is sympathetic to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 04:51 AM |
| – | Why do women pick the worst partners?Are they the same women though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:35 PM |
| – | Why do women pick the worst partners?This, I don’t get how people can still deal with the cognitive dissonance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:22 PM |
| – | Why do women pick the worst partners?This is the answer, but also that people just take the path of least resistance. If a shitty person is offering something they want then just going along with it is the easy way forward. They’ll make decisions based on things that make absolutely no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:06 PM |
| – | Why do women pick the worst partners?There’s a common idea that women can “smell desperation” and “detect creeps from a mile away” and that any man they reject based off of that is a justified action. Also there’s one that says incels are incels because they hold toxic views or bitterness about women and women can always totally tell even if the men try to “hide” it, or even if they act nicely but secretly hold bitterness, so that’s why they’re single. But there’s also this idea that charming abusive men are such expert manipulator… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:02 PM |
| 5 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.I mean, that’s kind of where the red pill thing about a few men having all the sex with a variety of women comes from. I think people see it as a single sum game where there is a limit on the amount of sex people are willing to have and if everyone is taken then there’s no opportunity for anyone else | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Is the attention women receive from men the equivalent of being bombarded with food choices?I don’t know why more people neglect doing this and then have no clue how their ancestors dated. Communities and third spaces are important. Nothing can substitute real life interaction. People, women in particular, are rarely charmed by reading reviews of food, they need to taste it in person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/23 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Is the attention women receive from men the equivalent of being bombarded with food choices?That’s not how this works. Sexualization has a definition, it doesn’t matter if you sexualize them back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/23 02:28 PM |
| 3 | Is the attention women receive from men the equivalent of being bombarded with food choices?Uh, you need to touch grass. Neither women or men have either the special power to perfectly suss out liars or perfectly lie about something. It’s all just guessing and there’s a lot of luck involved. Also, not being a virgin does not give you anything to tell a good person apart from a bad person. In the real world people are complicated and no one can accurately identify subtle traits in anyone unless they’re blindingly obvious. Let’s not pretend that anyone has that ability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/23 02:25 PM |
| 3 | Why don't feminists just stick to dating male feminists?Every attractive man will have a lot of options regardless of his political view, feminism will attract a few more women. However, it won’t do much for an overweight neckbeard guy. I’ve always seen it listed as a bonus rather than something fundamental, most people are fine with someone moderate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Why don't feminists just stick to dating male feminists?WTF if this black and white opinion? I don’t love people who call themselves male feminists, and some of them do the things you’ve listed, but to pretend that it’s all of them or even the vast majority is ridiculous. Some of them are at least a little sincere, and you should be able to see that even in a group you disagree with or aren’t part of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Why don't feminists just stick to dating male feminists?🚨🚔Reasonable opinion detected. You are supposed to talk in extremes and generalize large groups of people with unfounded and biased assumptions. You shall now be detained and reeducated in the ways of bitterness and hostility. 🔫 All jokes aside, I agree with you. Most people are moderate and can get along just fine. If you can’t have a reasonable discussion with someone then you are clearly not compatible and should leave, if you feel that way about a large group of people, then you are the extr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 05:08 AM |
| 0 | Why don't feminists just stick to dating male feminists?Those are traits of traditional hegemonic masculinity which is associated with conservatives but not exclusive to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 04:57 AM |
| – | Women want to split housework and childrearing but don't want to compromise anywhere elseMost rational people don’t need to signal to other people that they’re rational, and they don’t salivate over watching a “train wreck.” The rational people are trying to discuss things, even with people who seem to not make any sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 07:18 AM |
| – | Women want to split housework and childrearing but don't want to compromise anywhere elseDude, do you even hear yourself? That was the most insane own goal I’ve seen today | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 07:10 AM |
| – | Women are the ones slowly destroying the dating market without knowingYeah, this post is a disaster. At this point I might make a post trying to explain this but with all of the nutcracker energy (and math) removed. I think pure visual attractiveness still has more of an impact on how women are perceived but overall attractiveness, including status, social proof, wit, charm, humor, extroversion, social skills, wealth, competence, intelligence, and even race and ethnicity has more of an impact on how men are perceived and even valued as humans. Idk why men think th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 02:27 AM |
| 3 | Women are the ones slowly destroying the dating market without knowingOP, you have explained things in the confusing way imaginable even if you have a point. Like dude, WTF? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 01:41 AM |
| – | Women are the ones slowly destroying the dating market without knowingI think what he’s saying (in a really badly explain way) is that the perceived delta between a below average man and an above average one is greater than the delta between a below average woman and an above average women. He’s proposing that men inhabit the extremes of desirability and undesirability. An ugly man will be deeply repulsive to everyone around him and attractive man will have the world at his feet. Whereas an ugly woman will be ignored and an attractive woman will be have a lot of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 01:38 AM |
| -2 | Women are the ones slowly destroying the dating market without knowingWhy is that the only response you can think of? School shooters are a vanishingly small minority of incels. Even if you want to argue that incels are dangerous and that their ideas are harmful for society (which there’s an argument to be made), jumping directly into the most extreme fear mongering is a really stupid way to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 01:30 AM |
| 1 | We cant expect women to care about the inequality in the sexual marketplace. Its just wishful thinking.Yes, and I agree, but you can address societal issues without taking anyone’s fundamental freedom away. If a union representing all women decided that they don’t want to participate in society unless demands are met, then your authoritarian idea would make logical (but not moral) sense. Until all the unsatisfied women have partners, there’s no theoretical need to force anyone. And yeah, no man is obligated to date these women, but having a large and unsatisfied population is still a societal con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 01:20 AM |
| 2 | We cant expect women to care about the inequality in the sexual marketplace. Its just wishful thinking.There are a lot of women unsatisfied with dating as well, no one needs to be forced to do anything. Even ignoring the morality, it’s just unnecessary. It’s telling that this group always gets erased or overlooked in these discussions. It’s the guidance and social structures that need reshaping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Societies response to anger is gender specific and bizarreAbout 30% of the opinions seem to be representative of what OP described, the others are condemning the woman. However some of the others are condemning both parties equally, which is just wild to me. Yelling at a child is worse than your partner recording you yelling at your child. And even on the posts that do condemn the woman there are a lot of benefits of the doubt given to the woman. I think the OP incorrectly attributes these opinions as the majority when they aren’t. However, the people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Societies response to anger is gender specific and bizarreI just want to appreciate you for going out of your way to support men and sharing your own experience. It’s so rare on PPD. There’s definitely a “mommy privilege” where abuse from moms is completely overlooked. Abuse is not less worse if it’s a woman or if that person is “going through a lot.” The child certainly isn’t going to see it that way, they’ll just remember how scared they were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 03:26 PM |
| 0 | We cant expect women to care about the inequality in the sexual marketplace. Its just wishful thinking.Dude, you left dozens of comments on this thread most of them filled with long winded diatribes about what you believe men think. You’re no less emotional than OP here. Like come on, can you look past your hubris and acknowledge that. The guys on here are emotional, most people are because this is a heated debate sub, but I’ve yet to see even the extreme ones be offended by women having freedom and autonomy. You’re translating their being bitter about their experiences into a belief that they do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 03:06 PM |
| 2 | We cant expect women to care about the inequality in the sexual marketplace. Its just wishful thinking.At least he learned. It’s not much but it’s better than all the other people on this sub who’ll pick a stupid hill to die on and defend it to the point of insanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:56 PM |
| – | We cant expect women to care about the inequality in the sexual marketplace. Its just wishful thinking.Why is that always the only solution that the blue pill can come up with? The status quo is not the best we can do. Nowhere did OP suggest such a barbaric and idiotic solution, it’s a strawman that you’ve convinced yourself into believing in order to win imaginary arguments. The red pill has nonsense solutions and the blue pill fails to propose any solutions beyond accepting the status quo. And happy cake day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:44 PM |
| 12 | On the topic of military draftEven in the US the last draft was in the early 70s. I see progressives constantly make the argument that it was only “a few decades ago” that black people didn’t have civil rights and women couldn’t open a credit card without their husband’s permission. The draft was more recent than that. The “it was a long time ago” idea can’t be applied to something in the 70s when “it wasn’t long ago” is applied to the 60s. To this day every male who turns 18 and wants to go to college is required to sign fo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/23 03:21 AM |
| 2 | How are men supposed to deal with being the hornier sex?Yes there is. Pseudoscience isn’t quirky, it’s harmful. People with legitimate problems are duped by snake oil salesman into doing nonsense that won’t help them. Sure, they’re not forcing anyone into doing anything wrong, but by peddling BS, someone who’s not as discerning or just desperate can be fall into it. Not everything people “enjoy” is good, like illicit drugs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 04:25 AM |
| 1 | How are men supposed to deal with being the hornier sex?These guys speak as if SR gives them superpowers: I would say it’s not just the physical. Your vibration is higher when you’re on SR. It manifests itself through you. They talk about SR helping them achieve a masculine aura and command attention from women through pheromones. Like come on, this is just healing crystals and essential oils for men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 02:19 AM |
| 1 | How are men supposed to deal with being the hornier sex?You really just linked to that cringe sub. You know that normal people think that’s weird right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 05:44 PM |
| 8 | Silly woman. Sex is for Chads!All subreddits have toxicity. The feminist subreddits do and this one does as well. However many of them do discuss legitimate social grievances (if not in a refined manner), and it’s worth taking into account why they’re saying these things. I don’t agree with this subreddit just like I don’t agree with many feminist subs, but you can learn from people you disagree with. The problem isn’t any less problematic just because the people expressing that problem don’t voice it in a way that appeals t… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 12/12/23 01:17 AM |
| 6 | Silly woman. Sex is for Chads!Get a divorce lawyer, a well reviewed one, and discuss your options with them before filing for divorce or making any moves or separate. If you change your mind, you can always back out and your wife won’t have to know. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 12/12/23 01:13 AM |
| 3 | Single men are bitter. I wonder why?Have you been on Reddit? Capitalism is public enemy #1. I don’t disagree with you, but society has been playing the blame game for every issue, vocally, all the time. It’s not different for this one either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 03:19 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?This is actually really good advice. I think that there's just a sense of doom for the youth (not even getting into socio economic issues), and it feels like time is running out all the time. I think there's a lot of FOMO especially when it comes to life experiences. There's an analog to OP's insecurity which young, sexually-frustrated men have as well. Time is constantly running out to have formative life experiences which are dependent on chance and randomness, with no guarantees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 10:37 PM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I mean this with all respect, but please go to therapy, this isn't the optimal life attitude to have. The more you think about how much other groups hate you the more miserable you'll be, even if it is conditionally true sometimes As a minority race, I know there are people who make negative subconscious judgements about me for my race. But dwelling on it will not help, it'll only make you more of a magnet for negative attention in the short term and destroy your mental health in the long run | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 08:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesYou can’t reduce every human issue to “government bad.” It’s more complex than that. It’s also far more complex than sexlessness, that’s just one small part of a bigger problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 11:49 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesI mean we're already living through it. A lot of European and Asian economies are already past the point of no return, and it's not like the US has great prospects for the youth. It's like climate change, a slowly developing long term problem, no one notices or cares until it finally hits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 02:17 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesYou're not even responding to the right person, that wasn't my comment. Doesn't bode well for my hopes that you'll understand any of this. You're supposed to interpret it as: "If a group of people feels isolated/disenfranchised by society they will be incentivized to not participate in activities that work for the benefit of society." The race riot wasn't meant to be a direct analog in the same way that discrimination based on skin color isn't a direct analog, neither of them are as severe as wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 02:12 AM |
| – | What icks/turn off do you have for men?Totally off topic but I love how old school that first point was, it made me imagine this list was made by a woman in the 20s (the 1920s not the 2020s) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:46 PM |
| – | What icks/turn off do you have for men?Wow, you actually have all your priorities figured out. That’s more than most people on this sub I’ve seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:39 PM |
| 4 | Why do some women object to the stat that women find 80% unattractive, if they also say there aren't enough quality men?That’s fair I guess, everyone has a different picture of what “ugly” and “average” mean | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:34 PM |
| 4 | Why do some women object to the stat that women find 80% unattractive, if they also say there aren't enough quality men?You said that girls who aren’t hot have dated ugly guys, but what about all the girls who haven’t dated anybody or are waiting for the right guy? I don’t know any average girl who dated an ugly guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:32 PM |
| 0 | Where do people get this notion that dating in your 20s isn’t a struggle?Dude, there are fat people in India, Vietnam, Singapore, and all the other Asian countries too, mostly middle aged living in the big cities with sedentary white collar jobs. Sure, obesity is totally preventable but it takes more time and effort to maintain a good shape all things being equal than when you were younger | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:27 PM |
| 4 | Why do some women object to the stat that women find 80% unattractive, if they also say there aren't enough quality men?That’s true, I remember when literally every boy liked Emma Watson for the most generic reasons | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:22 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere heavily struggles with differentiating vulnerability and weaknessI mean, cheaters will use anything to make themselves not the villain. Can’t really expect any accountability. The statement could totally be true for other people but he could manipulate a true statement into emotional leverage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:20 PM |
| 2 | The dating market is saturated for menAnything else really. Seriously you can think of something more insightful, can’t you? Otherwise the conversation just bounces from one captain obvious useless statement to another | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:16 PM |
| 10 | Why do some women object to the stat that women find 80% unattractive, if they also say there aren't enough quality men?lol, but also I don’t think a boyband is the most convincing example. I’ll be honest, all the Nsync guys look basically the same to me (seriously you could swap their outfits and hair around and they’d look like each other). They’re all the same ethnicity, same build, similar height. I mean all boy bands are literally curated to have the same “style” and vibe but be just individual enough that you can tell them apart from one another. That’s the formula. They’re not real dudes, their personas ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:14 PM |
| 7 | Why do some women object to the stat that women find 80% unattractive, if they also say there aren't enough quality men?That sounds like something you just made up. Source? What about all the girls who don’t date (but ideally want to) but can’t for some reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 11:04 PM |
| 5 | The dating market is saturated for menI agree, but I see just as many blue pillers and women talking like this too. “If you can’t find a partner, that means what you offer isn’t desirable enough to attract one. Since women are independent they don’t have to settle for low quality men and will pick the best they can get.” It’s weird how almost everyone reverts to social Darwinism when pushed into a corner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 10:53 PM |
| 18 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesNo they’re not, don’t be obtuse. They’re not saying that if women don’t provide sex that men will unionize and go on a violent strike until their demands are met, that’s absolutely idiotic, and asinine. Like what the actual F are you picturing??? What will actually happen is that men will feel disenfranchised from society, they’ll work as little as possible (see Japan’s hikkikomoris, or China’s “lying flat” movement), they’ll avoid interacting with society as much as they possible can because th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 10:48 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesBut that’s your great grandma, that’s three generations ago, not one. There were several generations in between where women did have a choice but technology wasn’t the way it is today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 10:28 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesThat’s literally the entire point of this subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 10:23 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Most young guys struggle in dating because of the society and time we live in, not because of themselvesJesus H Christ. How on Earth did you come to that conclusion? Solving dating issues has NOTHING to do with forcing people to do things against their will. Literally no one wants people to be compelled to sleep with people against their will. Even the extremists almost never say that either. Every single time I’ve heard this truly deranged line of thinking is from people who think the other side is trying to discredit people they disagree with by saying that they believe this when they don’t. It’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 10:20 PM |
| – | Why do men make fun of things women like?Your last paragraph, it gives me an idea for a post. I think what both men and women are doing is judging the other off of “icks.” Everyone knows that one smelly anime nerd with waifu body pillows or that crazy bpd astrology chick with healing crystals, and the initial contempt is overwhelming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 03:16 PM |
| 5 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsBut that’s what I’m saying. Even if you do suffer mental illness, you do objectively notice things like attention from the gender you’re attracted to. Mental illness works despite that, every positive experience is burned in somewhere deep inside (and so is every negative experience which creates trauma). Yeah you can have terrible self esteem despite the positive reinforcement, but it’s very different from having terrible self esteem without the positive reinforcement or with negative experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 10:24 PM |
| 12 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsBut that literally contradicts almost everything you initially started with. He definitely does notice women throwing themselves at him if he’s never single. Like dude, do you not see the contradiction. No guy who has never had to make the first move or has never been single for an appreciable amount of time as an adult has ever sincerely doubted their attractiveness, at the very least to nowhere near the degree that someone who has never had romantic interest has. I’m sorry but that’s beyond me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 10:16 PM |
| 22 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsWomen are not a monolith, men are not a monolith. Some women are like you, some aren’t. Some men are lost, but many aren’t. Your story is nice and all, but I find that a lot of women who say women are “throwing themselves” at a guy don’t actually know that. I find that many women seem to like romanticizing other women’s behavior is “she’s giving him a hint,” as if life is a romance novel when all that really happened was that she was just going about her day and being friendly and it only looked… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 09:27 AM |
| 8 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsWhat are you talking about? The OP didn’t link a study he just linked a psych today article about a stereotypical view modern psychologists have. The content of the link was supposed to be against what he’s saying Did you read OP’s post or did you just come here to preach? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 09:15 AM |
| – | What are successful women supposed to actually do for dating?Fair enough, but I wasn’t saying I agreed or disagreed though, just pointing out that that’s not his argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 06:37 PM |
| – | What are successful women supposed to actually do for dating?He doesn’t say college educated women though, he said women earning more than the man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 05:47 PM |
| 3 | are women doing okay?What else do you want me to say, hard quotas have always been illegal since 1974, but preferential hiring and diversity targets aren’t. And white women (the majority) did benefit from something related to gender based preferential admission. It’s semantics at this point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 12:10 PM |
| 2 | are women doing okay?I literally didn’t even try it silence you, I just provided an addendum to your statistics that I felt added context. That’s it. You’re kind of telling on yourself with that response. If you’re an advocate that’s great and all, but it’s not relevant here. Everyone’s can claim they’re an advocate, doesn’t mean they’re right. And as for me I’ve literally done an entire sociology paper on male on male prison rape, so yeah, I have a feeling I have enough of a grasp on the statistics for violence. My… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 12:03 PM |
| 3 | are women doing okay?Affirmative action doesn’t work on hard quotas, and I assumed everyone knew that already, but it does work on targets. The “action” isn’t a binary pass fail, it’s more graded on a curve where overrepresented minorities like Asians get a harsher one than average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 11:29 AM |
| 3 | Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy?I don’t think that it’s that simple, it’s just semantics, and you’ve cherry picked to fit a narrative. Like, I’ve also heard a LOT of “all the men in my area are trash” when talking about “where are all the good men.” In fact I’ve rarely seen that statement used in the context where it was literally asking where to find them but rather blaming men as a whole, and as a gender for being not good enough. And again, asking someone to lower their standards is typically something you see men doing bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 06:15 AM |
| 2 | "Treat women as human beings"I doubt his answer is yes, but it is a very defining feature of the red pill. Blue pill tells you to focus on personality, hobbies, and talking to people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 06:02 AM |
| 0 | AF: BB is still the ruling principleI think the fact that you recognized that there are “Betas” and “Chads” is heavily anti-Blue pill. Classic blue pill doesn’t even recognize these terms, they don’t even attempt to recognize anything that separates people based on universal desirability. Also the fact that you are describing them with those terms is shallow, according to the blue pill, and as for slutty, idk you tell me. Also you describe yourself born more attractive in your youth because of your youth, which is a premise blue p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Undesirable people today are treated as poor working people in Victorian timesExactly. The past was brutal to almost anyone, even the worst off in today’s society have it better than most in the Victorian age. There’s a lot to be said about the halo effect and life is probably generally harder as an ugly person (although how much harder is constantly debated), but it’s not as extreme as OP thinks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:40 AM |
| 3 | are women doing okay?What constitutes a privilege vs equality is very subjective. There that saying people like to throw around “when you’re used to privilege equality feels like oppression.” But if the group started off without privilege, you can use the guise of “equality” to oppress them, and vice versa. Furthermore there’s “leveling the scales” or “evening the playing field” to make up for past discrimination. It’s a more popular idea than just pure equality. That clearly more than just taking your boot off. And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:34 AM |
| 8 | are women doing okay?It’s long been known that white women are the biggest beneficiary of Affirmative Action. https://www.acluok.org/sites/default/files/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Affirmative-Action-Mythbusters.pdf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:25 AM |
| 2 | are women doing okay?The stats for men aren’t that far back. 1 in 9 men are made to penetrate and that estimate is probably a little low because of severe underreporting https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html#:~:text=One%20in%204%20women%20and,penetrate%20someone%20during%20his%20lifetime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:19 AM |
| 2 | are women doing okay?Sensible and rational take detected. 🚨🚔 You are being detained under suspicion of not having pessimistic, cynical views and hating at least one gender Okay, jokes aside, you make a really good point. I also like what you’ve pointed out about suicide. 95% of suicide attempts are unsuccessful, and one person can have multiple attempts, all of which are counted. Suicide is a complex problem that affects men and women slightly differently and it deserves to be studied more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:10 AM |
| 24 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderThank you, I find it crazy that the blue pill and many women act like this isn’t a thing. They posit that women are perfectly happy being single and independent because they have good relationships with their friends and (old) family, so it doesn’t matter if they can’t start a family themselves. Therefore men should just improve because there are no free lunches and no one owes you anything. A woman is happier on her own than with a man, a relationship with a man is taxing because men expect you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:59 AM |
| 1 | The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: childrenTo be fair, if they can’t even get past step 1, there’s no use learning about the rest. All that energy they put into developing relationship skills will just lead to more bitterness if they can’t get one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 04:41 AM |
| 2 | Why are so many women like this?I think the reason that people think there’s hypocrisy going on is that there’s never any pushback from women who hold the opposite opinion. On a post about a woman being dumped because she had an onlyfans years ago there’s nothing but support for that woman, and the only ones defending the man’s perspective were other men. There’s no friction between these opinions in situ, which makes people believe there’s hypocrisy. Because despite having such a strong opinion, as long as they’re not affecte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.It’s unbelievable how you managed to come to that conclusion. Reading comprehension is a dying skill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 04:45 AM |
| 5 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.When you paraphrase that much it changes the meaning. Also he’s not my “buddy,” you don’t need to be anyone’s buddy to argue against an idea. Anyway, bye | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 04:15 PM |
| 5 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Asking is different from “begging.” You’ve changed the tone pretty significantly. Also just look at your original comment towards OP, it’s made of wild strawmen, assumptions, and BS that OP never said or implied and you’ve argued with your own strawman. It’s a perfect fit. You desperately need a mirror. And as for moving on, I agree, there no more productive discussion here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:52 PM |
| 4 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Who exactly is begging for emotional labor? I’ve never seen anyone do that, like ever. I think you are just seeing what you want to see. Pointing out a social issue is not the same as demanding a quick fix for it today. If you feel personally offended by a post that calls for empathy from women in general, that’s more of a projection from you. I don’t think the OP was “begging” for empathy. One of the things people do to typically improve their lives is by engaging in discussion with others. I k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:35 PM |
| -2 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Did he have no options and make the conscious choice to settle for this person knowing he didn’t want her or did he think he had no options and convince himself that this was the woman he deserved and was right for him? Sounds like he liked her but ignored all the red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:23 PM |
| 7 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Yes, it is and you just introduced it. Um, no. You did. You used men and women as generalities. I'm free to do as I please. Expend my energy in the way that I choose. I have no obligation to anything other than what I want. And I don't owe you or anyone here a damn thing. Sure. And I’m free to criticize your choice and the way you go about it. You can keep stating that you don’t owe anyone anything, and I agree, but don’t expect praise or acknowledgement for doing the bare minimum. Not a complai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:18 PM |
| 12 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Come on dude, there’s no conspiracy here. I think that mainstream feminism has a lot of opportunists but the average woman isn’t a mastermind of manipulation, just like the average man. They’re just doing what they think is right. The demonization of the “outgroup” is a problem but it’s a problem that exists in many different circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:05 PM |
| 3 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Things can be a societal and individual problem at the same time. I don’t think it’s black and white. At some point people observe something happening in multiple different people and make the jump from individual phenomenon to a societal phenomena. It’s not always accurate, sometimes wildly so, which is why we need counter perspectives. It’s such a complex topic and I think people don’t give discussions like this enough credit. It’s very hard to reverse engineer a social issue because humans an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:01 PM |
| 7 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.You bring up great points. Every time you start a conversation with a stranger, especially online, there’s a risk that you’re not going to get any positivity back. I think it’s just important to manage that risk, if you’re not feeling emotionally prepared that day, then maybe don’t engage. If you are then only do so much that it doesn’t burn you out. I have also gained a lot of insight from people on Reddit and this sub, it’s definitely not a total loss, even if it can seem that way sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 02:52 PM |
| 6 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.I think you bring up a valid point. People giving out empathy will be confronted with other people who are abrasive and accusatory and will make wild assumptions for no reason. That happens a lot, and it’s not okay. But, that being said, the alternative is not doing it. You don’t want to help, then don’t. And people shouldn’t force themselves to help, that will only hurt them and be a net negative for everybody involved. But personally, I just consider that as being the cost of being a good pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 02:45 PM |
| 8 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.That’s not what he was saying at all. No, not all women are supposed to drop everything and cater to men, that’s a ridiculous strawman. Women have lives. But YOU are here, on a Saturday morning, presumably because you have nothing better to do. You chose to take time out of your day to participate in a thread. You are commenting on a topic specifically about male loneliness. You are the target audience. If you actually don’t have time or emotional labor to give, then you’re free to leave. This s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 02:26 PM |
| 9 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.You made a lot of assumptions there, you act as if the guy was a master planner. Very, very few people can or will do this, it’s far more likely they just didn’t know what they were doing. What I read was that he was lonely, one girl showed him some affection and he fixated on that rather than seeing her flaws and seeing how they were incompatible. You know, the exact same story that women give when they hook up with assholes. In a thread pointing out how men never get any empathy, you jumped to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Men who want to be loved for "who they are" and not "what they provide" are not being reasonableYou and me both. I think it’s because a lot of people are born and raised in a mindset where money is more important than anything else. They get their enjoyment out of life from materials, not human connections. It’s a shame. They’re missing out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 08:37 PM |
| 3 | Men who want to be loved for "who they are" and not "what they provide" are not being reasonableFirst day on here? I'm obviously joking but it's like this everyday, and it's been going on for years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 03:01 AM |
| 3 | Men who want to be loved for "who they are" and not "what they provide" are not being reasonableIt's more like when you ask someone a question "what do you love about your spouse?" and the answers go like "I like it when he pampers me on dates, or makes me breakfast in bed, or does the housework when I have a backache. I love his booty massages, and the dishes he makes. I love that he's a provider and he's generous with money, always pays the bills and makes sure I never have to worry about our finances. He totally treats me like his queen! It's hard to find those types of guys these days.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Men who want to be loved for "who they are" and not "what they provide" are not being reasonableI think that segues into a broader point about intrinsic and extrinsic value. Yeah, children are providing something, but that thing is provided not by any "work," but the mere nature of their existence. All a 2 year old has to do is exist, all a child has to do is exist and do their homework and be a nice kid, the expectations grow as they get older. At some point it diverges between men and women. Yes, men value women for their beauty and looks, no one is denying that, but a lot of men see tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 02:42 AM |
| 2 | The demonization and disrespect of men may be an even bigger issue than dating apps and social mediaIt’s refreshing hearing all that, and I agree extremism is always bad. There are a lot of women who are sympathetic to men’s issues who are scared away from discussing the topic in men’s spaces because of all the vitriol. I think the world needs to find ways of discussing issues without antagonizing each other. Both on the part of the speaker and receiver. One of the best ways is to have zero tolerance for hate and vitriol within one’s own “side” so to speak. If each group policed themselves the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Guys talk about being judged for being virgins but how do women know?I feel like a lot of people aren’t self-aware enough to realize how associating these two ideas leads to worse outcomes for debates. It’s exactly like how some men will call all feminist women ugly, fat, old, used-up cat ladies. It’s projecting an undesirable stereotype onto your opponent. It’s really insidious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Guys talk about being judged for being virgins but how do women know?Have you ever heard of the halo effect? Good people are portrayed as attractive, bad people are portrayed as ugly. Yes, humans consciously recognize that bad people can be good looking too, but that doesn’t stop the implicit bias from happening and going unrecognized. Rather it’s by denying that any implicit bias exists You see this online a lot. There was a debate between feminist men and anti-feminist men, where a woman in the comments said “I’m so glad there are are smart, attractive, kind, f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 08:31 PM |
| 1 | The demonization and disrespect of men may be an even bigger issue than dating apps and social mediaI broadly agree with you but I also want to bring up another point. In the 1950s “socially acceptable men” were well spoken white men and the non socially acceptable men were black and brown men. It’s so bizarre that some people (not you specifically) don’t recognize that these things are intersectional. They’re not intersectional like a social status configurator where each selection adds or detracts from your social value, nothing is that robotic, but the general attitudes that privilege some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 08:22 PM |
| 13 | "Male loneliness epidemic" is just a tool used to manipulate menIt depends on how you define normal. Yes, it’s “normal” in the sense this is what a small majority of people do and are used to, particularly older people. But there are increasingly more people for whom this isn’t normal (mostly under 30), and they can’t seem to find ways to make friends. It’s part of the death of social spaces and more isolated lifestyles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Men want what they would never allow to womenThere’s always been a debate about the idea that there’s “someone for everyone.” Tbh, no one really knows, and we’re all just guessing. There may be some people that no one is attracted to. Or more realistically some people that have never met a person that was attracted to them, maybe there’s a person on the other side of the world, but if there’s no one in your vicinity you are out of luck. I think the latter is what the debate should be focused on, are there enough people in your area that ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 12:19 AM |
| -1 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menThat’s not emotional labor, that’s mental load. Remembering birthdays and planning events taxes your brain, like a crossword, it doesn’t tax your psychological health any more than physical labor does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 04:53 AM |
| 8 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menIt makes it really hard for kids to distinguish what’s really a mental illness and what isn’t. When every diva on TikTok self diagnoses themselves with a mental illness and deludes themselves into false sincerity, it’s easy for a kid to think that that’s what it looks like, that only a certain type of manifestation qualifies you for that label. The way it’s portrayed is simultaneously overly sanitized (they act completely normal and do all their daily tasks, except being a little sad) and over d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 04:48 AM |
| – | [Q4All]What are your thoughts on “Foodie Calls”?I think the fact that these women are (by nature) serial daters exposes a lot of men to them and gives them an over representation of what women are like. Same with women too, the nature of dating makes you more likely to find and interact with people who have the dark triad traits. Therefore the idea that there’s an epidemic of shitty people is so common despite everyone who espouses that opinion (allegedly) being a good person. If you date a lot, chances are that men and women are a lot nicer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:11 AM |
| 3 | Women claiming men should "hold other men accountable" just want to deny their own responsibilyThat’s an interesting opinion. The trend in the last decade has been to fortify the link between misogynist and bad person to make it almost 1:1, every time there’s a school shooting journalists immediately dive in to see whether the guy had any misogynistic tweets or was of that ideology. Seriously, you can’t deny that it hasn’t been happening, to the point where these two words are almost synonymous. Everytime a guy expresses an opinion such as “I’m lonely, I’m struggling with dating, etc” peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 01:02 AM |
| 10 | Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple and boils down to 4 things, does not involve "mind reading", and coming across as creepy once will not ruin your lifeAlso, something I’ve noticed is that a lot of men are just flat out too embarrassed to say anything until the frustration builds up in them. If they come out and say it’s hard for them to date, the mainstream will say “oh you’re one of those people, here it comes” (the expectation is that you are a misogynist incel). Therapists are human too, they don’t have empathy for everything. When seeking help comes with a significant social penalty, it’s better not to seek help for social issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:52 AM |
| 9 | Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple and boils down to 4 things, does not involve "mind reading", and coming across as creepy once will not ruin your lifeI don’t know any therapist who specializes in men’s dating issues. That’s not even a field of study (feel free to prove me wrong). In general, therapy is not an exact science, it’s an art. That’s why people tell you to “shop around” for therapists until you find one that clicks for you. Getting along with your therapist is very vital. If you have general issues like lack of motivation, or grief, most therapists will work for you. If you have a more complex issue like PTSD, abuse, sexual trauma, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:48 AM |
| 11 | Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple and boils down to 4 things, does not involve "mind reading", and coming across as creepy once will not ruin your lifeIt’s extremely awkward, but “major creep vibes” is overstating it, especially since you weren’t there and the person who was actually there doesn’t seem to think so. It’s likely the guy was socially awkward and messed up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:42 AM |
| 9 | Not coming across as creepy to women when approaching is incredibly simple and boils down to 4 things, does not involve "mind reading", and coming across as creepy once will not ruin your lifeIt’s exceptionally easy to not come across as creepy. Just don’t do anything remotely non-platonic or take any risks. Problem solved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:38 AM |
| 7 | People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry?That’s absolutely right. You are a part of humanity, if you change yourself you have just improved humanity. Same thing for the people that don’t want to bring children into this “awful world.” We are living in the best time in history. If you really want to change the awful world, then raise good kids in a loving environment who will grow up to be strong, righteous, kind, and moral citizens of the world. That alone will make a dramatic difference. It’s the biggest impact most people can make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:32 AM |
| 17 | What exactly do men refer to when they say they have to put in “hard work” to sleep with a woman?It’s not what you have to be, it’s what you have to do. Men’s social skill requirements are not same as women’s social skill requirements. You can be a great person with interesting hobbies, but if you don’t have the skills to show yourself off then no one is going to know. Few girls are randomly interested in what you, a random man, are. Most men have to lead the conversation. Approach, ask the initiating question, ask follow up questions, segue into different topics. The best they can hope for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:25 AM |
| 2 | What exactly do men refer to when they say they have to put in “hard work” to sleep with a woman?The amount of overt racism in gay communities is shocking. Like I’m 90% sure that overall racism is worse in heterosexual dating but at least they make an attempt to hide it. Saying “No Asians” just outright is wild | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:12 AM |
| 24 | What exactly do men refer to when they say they have to put in “hard work” to sleep with a woman?The steps I’ve seen mentioned are: Dress well. Better than most men at the club. Wear a cologne but not too much. Look like you out in effort into looking good but not too much effort. Practice conversations in your head, always have fun stories queued up, and a list of questions you can segue to if the conversation appears to be dropping off. Ask her about herself, don’t talk about yourself unless you’re going to drop a joke or subtly hint at something interesting about yourself. Never ask yes/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 12:04 AM |
| 10 | So, I mentioned Men's rights in a psychology class! Could have gone worse!That’s the equivalent of juniors and seniors in American high school. Many curriculums around the world don’t have four year high schools, they split it after 10th grade and consider the final two years separate, usually called pre-college, pre-university or something similar. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/23 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t respect the average man?I think what everyone on this thread is missing is there’s a middle ground between “doing the bare minimum” and “actively admiring someone.” Like seriously, a boss who barks orders at you and makes no eye contact but doesn’t do anything bad could be doing the bare minimum. But does he really value you? The most clear example of this was a white woman being sweet and talkative to all the other white women in line at the store but then being cold, quiet, and gruff when a black woman came up to her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 12:31 AM |
| 7 | Women don’t respect the average man?Exactly. Basic human decency is the bare freaking minimum that every human should have for every other human, and for the most part most people (outside of a few bad apples from both genders) have that. Admiration is only given to a select few in one’s life, it’s supposed to be rare. “Respect” is something in between, to me it means to value someone as a human. And disrespect can be either active or passive. Active disrespect comes from interrupting someone, talking down to them, yelling at them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 12:18 AM |
| 3 | What are some problems men face that isn’t caused by women?You’ve just stumbled on the problem that countless people have already been discussing for years. It’s not that those men don’t want male friends either, it’s that getting an intimate friendship is just as hard. Getting casual friends is easy. It might even be easier today than in years past because of social media and the internet. Getting a friend that can be your emergency contact is hard. A friend that would absolutely drop everything, no matter how busy they were, and come to you if you rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 12:03 AM |
| 9 | Men are told to "touch grass" and "talk to women" but if they fumble they get to be creep shamed on social mediaYou’re right, but cars aren’t the primary reason for this. They existed in the 1970s and people socialized just fine. They do make transport difficult through, it’s easier to just go for a walk than to drive somewhere with a specific purpose in mind. It’s more of a decline in social spaces. There’s no town square, a place just to hang out. Libraries are dead, coffee shops are declining. Parks are dead. There aren’t a lot of places where you can just exist outside of your home. College dorms have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:18 PM |
| 7 | Men are told to "touch grass" and "talk to women" but if they fumble they get to be creep shamed on social mediaWhat other popular ways to meet online exist, outside of dating apps? I’m genuinely curious. Sure, we’ve all seen posts about meeting through Reddit or whatever, but that seems to be a very rare thing compared to dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:15 PM |
| 18 | Men are told to "touch grass" and "talk to women" but if they fumble they get to be creep shamed on social mediaThat just reinforces the point that talking to a woman you weren’t supposed to has always been dangerous if you were in the wrong group and talking to someone in a privileged group. The men who did the lynching didn’t say they did it out of pure hatred. They had their own MeToo movement where it was just a commonly accepted fact that white woman were in danger by black men. After the lynching they would etch a message onto the site “we will protect our mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters.” Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:13 PM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.Theoretically yes, however raising a child as a single parent is really hard and expensive. Most single millennials are opting out of having children altogether | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:05 AM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.I think he’s saying that he’s hit on by women after he turned 30 despite being engaged now, whereas he wasn’t hit on by women when he was in his twenties and single and available | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 03:00 AM |
| – | I believe men struggle so much in dating because they no longer bring anything to the table.You are right, and again thank you. Honestly, I had to click on your profile for a second just to check because I couldn’t believe a woman on PPD was being this nice to men. There are lots of bitter, jaded people on here, but real life is still full of people who are optimistic and kind and won’t write you off instantly. I’m confident a lot of people on here are just venting and don’t hate the opposite gender as much as they say. Your last point about men being the pursuer is so important. The r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?I don’t know why it’s always so black and white, either men deserve nothing, no help or support (it’s a hyper-individualist philosophy that isn’t individualist at all but rather collectivist and oppressive, a real individual society would make way and make room for people to thrive). Or it’s state-mandated girlfriends or sex slaves. Jordan Peterson is crazy now, but even he’s never said that when he’s talked about “enforced monogamy” and he’s wrote several blog posts at this point saying he spec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 12:27 PM |
| 3 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?If he was pushy or crass or didn’t take no for an answer, then he’s a pos. But if he wasn’t then who cares? He’s more of an edge case but lots of people always question if they’re attractive/good enough to approach someone, no one knows until they try. Maybe it went really well the last time he approached someone similar. As long as they’re not harming anyone and they ask respectfully there’s no need to be mean. Live and let live I get the feeling. I’d be creeped out if a woman as old as my mom … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 11:11 PM |
| 3 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?Agreed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?Huh, that’s very interesting. I’ll have to do more research to see if this is a trend. Thanks for answering | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:46 PM |
| 2 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?I think it’s a product of being frustrated that men, in this case them, are not sexually desired and they’re trying desperately to be more sexually desirable by improving their physical appearance and social skills, being more exciting and interesting, and just trying their hand at any thing that might work. If all that still fails to attract a single woman, then these men figure they’ll take the L and be with a woman that doesn’t sexually desire them. At least society will view them better and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:44 PM |
| 4 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?I’ve never heard a man say the last part of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?What the difference between being romantically and sexually desired? Do you two have sex? How would things change, if at all, if she was sexually attracted to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:36 PM |
| 9 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?Thank you. The way she said that she was offended the old dude thought he had a chance with her just because he was short, old, and ugly was disgusting from her. It’s like those guys who constantly say they won’t date fat chicks, to the point that it becomes rude. Like dude, we get it, you don’t have to act all high and mighty, it’s cringe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 09:33 PM |
| 8 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?There are plenty of solutions to men’s lack of a sexual life that don’t infringe on women’s rights. For some reason, everyone jumps to government mandated girlfriends or other crazy ideas when no one takes them seriously. What men do want is help. The red pill/pick up artist movement started a decade ago to help with that. Teaching men who lacked social skills what to say to a girl, how to escalate touch, how to approach, when to ask for her number, all kinds of things like that. The vast majori… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 09:32 PM |
| 9 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?You are boiling down a nuanced situation into black and white. He asked to consider that a life of a mix of positive and negative attention may be preferable to one with no attention. That hardly an affirmative claim, and the tone is very mild. He didn’t say “women have it easy, men have it hard,” he was opening this topic up for discussion. The subtext of the sentence also implies that it’s not a universal rule that one situation has to be better than another, but that for some people some of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 09:13 PM |
| 16 | It's not that women's preferences are shallow, but that they're really homogenousDoesn’t every dude post the exact same thing though. Good facial features, reasonably fit body, average height or above, stable careers, exciting hobbies, vibrant social personality, friends for social proof, previous long term partners, confidence, traditional chivalry (but only from you). Is there ANY variation on this? I can’t think of any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 05:08 PM |
| 7 | I don't think average men get laid that much actuallyNobody moved the goalpost dude, dating success is one component of “society’s success.” I only used that word because this method of analysis can be used on any measure of a society. Sure, let’s forget about “society’s success” and focus on dating since you’re so hung up on that. I’m not concerned about which men have access to casual sex. Many young people are concerned with how hard it is to date today. That is the issue. If your entirely worldview/perception is based off of what you see outsi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 02:48 PM |
| 4 | I don't think average men get laid that much actuallyI think this approach is a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem. Yeah, basing all of your argument on OLD is stupid, it’s a good component but there’s far more to dating than that. Yes, if I go to JC Penny (dying store brand), I’ll see tons of couples most above the age of 35 and have kids. Amusement park, same thing. I don’t see too many young couples, but there are enough that it’s not a rare sight. Just because the car looks really good, and runs and drives fine doesn’t mean it’s healt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 11:58 AM |
| 2 | Women who are "done with shitty men" have helped create a whole new class of fuckboys by having "situationships" with a minority of men🚨🚔You are being detained for having too much logic and reasonability. You must make wild and extreme generalizations based on conjecture and view the world in black and white. Rules of Reddit 🔫 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:47 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Women trauma dump more often than menGet out of here with your reasonable, moderate, big picture views 🔫 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:12 AM |
| 5 | W*men complain when they don't get enough s*x, but they also complain when their partners complain about not getting enough s*xFor once TwoX is right, this is a terrible example. It looks bad from the headlines but if you actually read the comments it’s not as black and white. In the first post the vast majority of commenters are being sympathetic to the man who is in medical school, living with his parents, and doesn’t want to have sex. There are a few misandrist comments saying he might be watching porn but they’re the vast minority. The second post is about a man who works part time complaining about only getting sex… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 07:57 AM |
| 16 | What are some counterarguments to the claim that false rape accusations are a myth/extremely rare?False rape convictions are very rare. It’s very rare for a false accusation to result in a man being locked up for 20 years. But it’s more common for a false accusation to result in a man losing his job, livelihood, social connections, family, mental health, as well as being targeted and harassed. We don’t know how many cases are true or false. The vast majority of cases are “undecided.” There’s not enough evidence to convict someone so the defendant is let go and presumed but not confirmed inno… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/23 07:41 AM |
| 2 | 45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman in personNo, it depends on context. Avoiding women when discussing work topics is sexist, you are impeding someone’s work. Not being friends with women isn’t. You are not entitled to friends, least of all work-friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 04:27 AM |
| 3 | A political lesbians perspective on white supremacy.Just remember to direct your argumentative masochism at people who attack you first and so often that you can never see having a productive discussion with. Otherwise you might miss out on some insights. Aside from that, do you man | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/23 03:47 PM |
| 14 | The right-wing is harmful to men’s rights.Precisely. These men can’t seem to understand that the problem is complicated and a simple solution will not work. Society doesn’t hate men or women, society doesn’t have a mind of its own, which is why it’s so profoundly stupid when right wingers or feminists try to claim that society hates an entire gender. Social expectations disadvantage particular groups of people in complex ways. They create problems that some people feel way more than others. Yes, within society there are people who do ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/23 03:44 PM |
| 5 | The right-wing is harmful to men’s rights.I find that he has the most balanced takes (that doesn’t mean pure centrist, but rather he considers all arguments and possibilities before reaching conclusions). Sometimes he’ll agree with the left and sometimes he’ll agree with the right but he’s always well reasoned and he really does advocate in the best interest of men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/23 03:37 PM |
| 22 | The right-wing is harmful to men’s rights.Exactly, the left will say men should man up because they’re not oppressed and their life is easy under the patriarchy so stop whining, the right will say men should man up because that’s the only way men will ever get respect and men are biologically designed to be tough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/23 03:35 PM |
| – | Men, do you actually reject women for this reason?I think that men view women having copious casual sex the way women view men who watch copious amounts of porn, pay for onlyfans, or hookers in Vegas. It’s free or very cheap, it’s short term gratification, and it’s desensitized pleasure at the expense of the real thing (men are afraid women will compare them to past partners, women are afraid men will compare them to porn women or IG models). To BOTH men and women there’s something icky about someone who spends so much energy to get physical/me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 10:29 AM |
| – | Men, do you actually reject women for this reason?You are correct. The weird thing is that this is often a sticking point for many women (male friends not sticking around because the guy has unrequited feelings). It’s entitlement to ask to continue to be friends, sometimes that entitlement is more earned, like if you’ve been best friends for 25 years and have always had each other’s backs. But sometimes people do this with people they’ve known for less than a year, which is kinda desperate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 10:09 AM |
| – | Men, do you actually reject women for this reason?It can be a different set of girls. They’re not a monolith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 10:03 AM |
| – | Men, do you actually reject women for this reason?Yup, also dependent on age and other factors. If you’ve been with 5 people at 16, you need to slow down that’s a lot. 5 people in your 20s is totally normal. 5 people when you’re 80 is normal if you’ve had a 50 year marriage. It’s also about how much the other person cares about their own sexual, physical, and mental health. Do they get tested and ask for tests after each partner? Green flag. Do they constantly do things that they regret later? Red flag. Do they get into sticky situations under … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 10:02 AM |
| 8 | Why Men Can't Talk About Their StrugglesI’ve heard “trickle down equality” used as term lately. The idea is that men, by fighting for feminism and for women first will eventually see their own gender roles eliminated and have more options after the change is done. This isn’t how it works, it’s a gross misunderstanding of classical feminism. Ruth Bader Ginsburg argued for men to be given compensation when their wives died in the military, previously it was only something afforded to women. Even at a time when women had far less equalit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/09/23 12:36 AM |
| 14 | Why Men Can't Talk About Their StrugglesI’m always irritated by the use of “what about the children” in arguments like these. Children are invisible until they’re used as pawns in adult fights. It was never about the children. If it was about the children, men and women would put aside their differences and do everything not to traumatize them, but that isn’t even close to what happens. Men and women nearly always put their own interests first, and the children learn that only they can save themselves. It’s like the abortion argument.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/09/23 12:28 AM |
| 1 | CMV : A lot of men feel like a date went really well when it didn’t. They made a friend.3 dates is quite a way above average (and commendable). For most young woman at least, if they don’t feel a spark on date 1 it’s a no-go. Hell, some of them want to feel a spark on date 0, which is just a coffee date or something really quick that people on online dating use just to vet the other person before committing to a full date (I think it’s a good idea, but you can’t judge chemistry in 15 minutes). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV : A lot of men feel like a date went really well when it didn’t. They made a friend.I think he just didn’t know how to flirt or was just too nervous. There’s no way he’d constantly show up for dates if he wasn’t trying. But it’s not your fault it didn’t work out since you tried as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:28 AM |
| 2 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachTrue. But I think people are misdiagnosing the problem. The problem isn’t that men want to have sex with women that they talk to, it’s that they say something that makes the woman uncomfortable or can’t take a no. If the man had just kept it to himself everything would be fine. The whole thing would be solved if they just shut up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:21 AM |
| 5 | Women deliberately mischaracterize "Nice Guys" and set them up for failure no matter how they approachThat’s the best take on this situation I’ve seen. The only issue is that people disagree on what “blaming women” actually looks like. Some people misconstrue any complaint or frustration as “blaming women” and then the fights between the two sides start and then say start saying actual offensive things until no one can remember that the fight didn’t have to start in the first place. Actually this goes for so many internet fights. A person makes a reasonable complaint, it’s misinterpreted, then t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:18 AM |
| 2 | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?You’ve given this rationale for making these decisions: He was nice to me and i had low self esteem He was my best friend, was very smart and had a good sense of humour Similar values and desires for family, similar interests, good sense of humor Number one was entirely your fault. I’m really not trying to be mean but the truth has to be said. I’m curious how did you not notice a man who doesn’t wash himself when you presumably worked with him in some proximity? Low self esteem is not your fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:00 AM |
| 2 | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?It happens on Reddit. Reddit is made up of misanthropes who blame the world for their problems or just come here to soapbox and air out their own ideology in order to stave off boredom, just like everyone on PPD. A few stories on Reddit does not an accurate portrayal of reality make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 01:36 AM |
| 2 | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?I love that you actually admitted that you have terrible taste in men, it shows a great deal of self awareness. I legitimately think that the decision making ability to choose the right people to be around, the right things to do, and the right things to pursue is something that has to be learned. And I think if you make catastrophic decisions in that regard after the age of 21, you need to give up your adult license and go back to school (metaphorically of course). I also think it’s a great fai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 01:28 AM |
| 3 | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?The point isn’t that the rest of the men are perfect but rather that they are competent adults who keep their rooms relatively clean, take care of themselves, have good jobs, and have good personalities. At any rate, they effortlessly clear this so called ‘low bar.’ Yet they are not considered in the first place because of more superficial barriers that they don’t pass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 01:08 AM |
| 5 | The idea that « the bar is so low » for men is more and more prominent among women. Do you think that it’s true? Does it match reality?Most men are decent and wonderful people. It’s not their fault that the remainder of men—who get into relationships with women rather easily—don’t perform as well as them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 01:03 AM |
| 11 | What do guys do if they want virgin women but cannot get them?The Mormon community | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/23 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Today’s female dating strategy will lead to a demographic collapse of liberal progressives and a future where women are treated as second class citizens.That assumes these women are involved with the raising of kids (teachers for example) or have some kind of cultural influence on kids. A very small portion of those women will go on to do things like make the Barbie movie, but the vast majority of them will have no influence over any kids if they don’t have any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 08:19 PM |
| 5 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenIt’s insane that people are trying to tell you about what you’ve experienced. For Gen Z women it’s not that uncommon to have never been clearly asked out by a man. I can almost guarantee that there were probably men who were at least a little interested but that’s true for most humans, and 97% of men don’t cold approach. Obviously, that doesn’t do anything for you because hints and secret attraction is all but worthless to the other party. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to women“men that we have no interest in” I think that there is a ridiculous amount of confusion and misdirection when talking about female sexuality. Like, I’ve often heard that women aren’t instantly attracted to men. It’s either a hard no, or a maybe. So if you’re referring to the hard nos then yeah, it’s obvious why a woman wouldn’t approach them. But most women don’t approach the maybes either. Men know whether a woman is physically attractive to them or not instantly. Whether or not they’d like to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Most women are invisible to straight men just like how most men are also invisible to womenDo you think it’s similar the other way around, ie women being attracted to a small % of men, or not? I think that a lot of people have the same primary type that they’re attracted to. There’s a reason blue eyes and blonde hair is a stereotype. Some people, maybe 20%, are someone’s most desired type. Most people, maybe 60%, aren’t often someone’s primary type but a decent number of people could find them hot after some interaction. The other 20% are nobody’s type or the people who would be attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 01:27 PM |
| 4 | Why are indian men the least attractive?I think it’s because Indian guys represent everything women don’t like about men. Here are some stereotypes Unattractive by Eurocentric standards: Let’s be real, beauty standards are a thing Poor impressions from immigrants: Racism against dark-skinned people (despite them being dark skinned themselves), hygiene issues, strong smelling food, lack of courteousness, lack of manners, a poor fashion sense India’s PR problem with rape and the mistreatment of women The stereotype of being mama’s boys … | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 04:23 AM |
| 2 | Why are indian men the least attractive?Do you have a source for that? | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 03:42 AM |
| 3 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.Actually you’ve given me an idea. Instead of rating men or women on a numeric scale (which is a really terrible way of doing it), a better way would be matching men’s pictures to women’s pictures. I’d be super interested in seeing what happens then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Men should be able to get someone at or near their level of attractiveness, and being told “it’s not a points/bartering system,” “you are what you can get” or that “no one is obligated to date you” are simply deflections and gaslighting nonsense.The problem guys have is knowing what to do with this information. How should a guy know whether a girl sees him as a maybe or if it’s a dead end approaching her? And the ratio of “no” to “maybe” depends on each guy, some guys just rarely get a maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:54 AM |
| 5 | CMV: successful men do care about womens’ careersSounds like you have a traditional relationship where roles are defined and you both aim to pease each other. Relying on each other and doing different things means that both of you get something. An egalitarian relationship can work but both parties need to put more effort into determining what their roles are so that things are reciprocal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men.You definitely have mature takes for your age and seem way to pleasant to interact with for someone on PPD. You kind of remind me of me when I was almost 20, more optimistic about life and the prospect of being with someone. Hard to believe that was only a couple years ago. Perhaps staying off this subreddit is best, way too many bitter and jaded people ready to bear their fangs if you have an opinion. Can’t say I haven’t sometimes been too quick to comment without really trying to understand th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 10:22 AM |
| 5 | Women (most of the time) are REPULSED by inexperienced men.I think this is what guys are missing here. Few women want to go out with a manwhore, even if he’s attractive, it’s the female equivalent of a guy being a simp to an instagram girl. I think what’s most attractive to a general audience of women is a guy who’s had a few long term relationships and hasn’t had any major periods of singlehood. A guy who’s 30 with zero experience is not attractive to the majority of women, but there is a small group that would gladly take him in order to avoid the fir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/23 09:57 AM |
| 7 | R/menslib feels like so weirdThis is the most balanced take I’ve seen. I’m also upset that so many men’s subreddits get distracted by hating on women that they eventually forget their original purpose. I don’t think most users are ill-intentioned, although there are a lot of women who come from very insular feminist subs who get away with calling men things that men cannot defend against because optics. Certain people get away with being aggressive. Occasionally there is an eloquent comment that makes an indictment against … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/23 09:20 AM |
| 9 | R/menslib feels like so weirdAba and Preach are the most moderate, well balanced people possibly on all of YouTube when it comes to gendered issues. They’ll happily dunk on anyone who’s cringe regardless of their ideology and whether they are a man or woman. They’ve dunked on redpillers many times but also recognize why men wanted the advice the redpillers were offering in the same place. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/23 09:08 AM |
| 25 | Where do you think this new push to call men pedos for being attracted to 18-24 year olds is coming from?Perfectly balanced take. The idea that 25 specifically means that you’re developed as a human being is a meme. People’s brain development varies wildly. Age definitely influences maturity but it’s by far not the only thing. Most young people can make their own informed decisions as long as they’re not severely intellectually and/or socially disabled. I am curious though, this is a slightly unrelated question. What other factors do you think influence the power dynamic in relationships? Age is on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 04:53 AM |
| 0 | Where do you think this new push to call men pedos for being attracted to 18-24 year olds is coming from?That makes no sense, are you equating creepiness to looks or confidence to looks? Also psych today is not an academic source, it’s an opinion piece that is not professionally peer reviewed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 04:45 AM |
| 3 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?I mean it’s not like Gen Z is a different quality of human being, it’s just that modern societal standards are changing and much of the discussion is centered around that. PPD wouldn’t be as big if this was the 2000s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?We’re you a doormat? If so that’s a different problem. You can be as good to them as you want as long as you stand up for yourself. Plus if you’re transparent about your past there’s no reason to worry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?I think you stumbled upon the right answer that no one in this thread is seeing. It’s not about the behavior itself, it’s about values. Like if the guy valued traditional “romancing” when he was younger, and he took the girl out on an expensive date, bought gifts, then got burned by that, it’s understandable that he’d want to do things differently. Now he still picks his date up, but they go to a cheap restaurant, he buys small affordable gifts and basically holds the same values he always did j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 01:28 AM |
| 10 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?Yup for the average guy it used to “just happen” because of social opportunities. A friend would set them up on a blind date or they’d have a cute coworker. Then they marry them and all would be well. Now those social opportunities are decreasing and people are far more risk averse with their known social contacts. Dating at work is strongly discouraged by everyone, dating in friend groups is discouraged, dating a classmate is discouraged because then you’ll have to see them everyday and it’s aw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 01:11 AM |
| 6 | Do TRULY average men actually struggle to date and have sex?I mean in my industry (software) most hotter guys get a gf or three in college and have no issue dating, they just go to parties and things work out. The not hot, mostly Asian dudes or nerdy white guys don’t really get much attention at all, stay single throughout their mid twenties and then get married because statistically one girl who finds them just palatable enough should want to settle down with a software engineer between the ages of 30-35. I don’t know if this suggests “struggling” or no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/23 01:06 AM |
| 5 | What's the incentive for men not to be "toxically masculine", if that's what most women go for?I think you’re point about masculine pressure being grueling is interesting. A lot of people find the prospect of being socially rejected, isolated far more grueling than conforming to social norms. I think that’s where a lot of disagreements come from. One side says “learn to love yourself and be happy by yourself and don’t depend on anyone else for your happiness” and the other side says “change yourself to conform to social norms then people will love you.” In reality neither of these approac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:27 PM |
| 6 | What's the incentive for men not to be "toxically masculine", if that's what most women go for?I think they’re saying that it’s discouraging toxic masculinity and mainstream women are on board with that ideologically even if they disagree with it in practice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/23 05:20 PM |
| 8 | Life as a single man vs a single womenThis is unironically the best comment, thanks for sharing your experience. Lots of interesting information | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Life as a single man vs a single womenI don’t give a fuck about red pillers, they have some factions but none of them are trying to solve this issue. What are you on about? In another comment you’ve literally just given me a source that says men are more socially isolated than women, especially when they’re not married. So I think your use of the word “factual” is pretty funny. Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35856404/ Believe whatever man, but your insistence that there’s no problem even when your own source is telling you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 10:29 PM |
| 4 | Life as a single man vs a single womenYeah, and here’s a few studies that do support the idea that there is a male specific loneliness problem. Plus there’s reporting biases, women are more comfortable admitting they’re lonely and nearly all of the studies use self reporting. https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/prc/our-research/prc-brief-series/2022-research-briefs/social-isolation-and-gender-across-the-life-course.html Also this quote was literally from the study you just linked: Results indicate that boys/men are more isolated than gir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Life as a single man vs a single womenThat’s not relevant (whether it’s true or not), because we’re not talking about men and women on average. I was referring to the specific situation of single, socially-isolated men, and their relationship to broader society. You’ve constantly been reading half the comment and responding to an idea that hasn’t been said. You literally don’t have a single real point that’s relevant, it’s like you’re disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:39 PM |
| 7 | Life as a single man vs a single womenThat’s some weird logic. Social issues are either everyone’s problem or no one’s problem. You can’t segregate society and tackle social issues like that. The social problem isn’t men complaining. The social problem is the fact that there are issues getting in the way of everyone having the opportunity to pursue life, liberty, and happiness. No one is trying to legislate anything either, those are political problems not social ones. If you specifically don’t want to talk about it, here’s the door… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:31 PM |
| 4 | Life as a single man vs a single womenWhatever news that is, it doesn’t relate to this particular conversation specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 09:22 PM |
| 7 | Life as a single man vs a single womenNo one is saying that. The concept of freedom and women’s rights isn’t relevant to the conversation because no one is trying to take them away. What is reasonable is having a conversation that everyone participates, that society participates in, not just men. Not everyone needs to participate but this is just another social issue among other social issues and it needs to be treated as one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 08:44 PM |
| 1 | People like to give "healthy" advice, but what people want and need is unhealthy advice.That’s the worst interpretation of this. No one knows what their values are and what they want, not men or women. When it comes to love everyone is a buffoon and acts illogically, especially those think that they’re logical. What he’s advocating for is basically Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. You need to analyze why you want what you want. Yes, your wants have to be justified, not by outsiders but by yourself for your own sake. People’s wants are very flawed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Forget sex or relationships, how tf does a man even become friends with a woman?Idk why he specifically wants female friends but it’ll probably help understand women more and maybe they can give him advice and help him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 07:13 PM |
| 3 | Forget sex or relationships, how tf does a man even become friends with a woman?Yeah, that’s a genuinely good way to have casual friendships, and some of those friendships may turn into deeper ones. Nothing’s a guarantee for getting deep friendships though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 06:15 PM |
| 12 | Forget sex or relationships, how tf does a man even become friends with a woman?You almost had a legitimate question and a good point about male and female friend dynamics being different, but you’re being so combative and insufferable that you’re not learning anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 06:13 PM |
| 10 | I don't buy that romantic literature "means nothing" about people's preferencesBy “loser” they usually don’t mean totally incompetent and worthless, but rather shy/introverted, socially awkward, and doesn’t have many friends or much of a social life. The protagonist is usually at least half decent at something or has an interesting quirk about them and they’re very nice to people. Then some very extroverted girl or a very interested but too shy-too-say-it introverted girl takes an interest in him. The best recent example is My Dress Up Darling. The guy is very quiet and tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 06:07 PM |
| 5 | Where do girls go to meet guys?my type is nerdy/introverted guys though, idk where the best place to meet them is since they’re at home 💀 I was going to say RIP your DMs, but I think this sub is a bit too bitter and jaded to produce any As for nerdy/introvert guys. I think board game clubs, anime/game conventions, local D&D gatherings, trivia nights at bars (I used to go to a few of them and there were nerdy people there), libraries, that’s all I can think of now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 05:55 PM |
| 8 | Nightclubs are not the right place to meet womenI think that the camps of people who have problems with people approaching them 100% do not go to nightclubs. Most people who go to nightclubs are at least somewhat confident and more sexually risk taking. I doubt that they would be annoyed if someone came up to them elsewhere. What is a problem though is that there’s no etiquette to approaching someone at everyone can sign off on. Really, the only place it’s 100% socially acceptable to show interest is on a dating app or a singles meet or speed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 05:59 PM |
| 31 | Nightclubs are not the right place to meet womenActually I think it was formatted like this: Rule 1: Be attractive Rule 2: Don’t be unattractive I think the significance of ordering it like this was to say that nothing matters if you can’t get past rule 1. Being superficially attractive is the first and most important step. Rule 2 just basically says don’t be unattractive as in don’t do or say or be anything that makes you unattractive and ruins your chances granted to you by following rule 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 05:37 PM |
| 1 | How has your ex partner's life turned out compared to your own?I’m trying to guess what race you are but it’s just not coming to me 🤔🧐 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 12:34 PM |
| 1 | How has your ex partner's life turned out compared to your own?Username checks out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 12:32 PM |
| 3 | How has your ex partner's life turned out compared to your own?This story is too wholesome and reasonable for a PPD comment. An imperfect couple compromising, learning, and growing into a better one, not allowed 🔫 🚨🚔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 12:31 PM |
| 1 | How has your ex partner's life turned out compared to your own?I can’t see your whole flair but it has “fuck my ex” in it, so it checks out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 12:27 PM |
| 16 | Women get resentful from splitting half the costs with their partnersBruh, you need to calm down. The top 1% of men marry the top 1% of women. Women that are attractive, fit, fun, supportive, nurturing, modest, pleasant to be around, isn’t “high maintenance,” who have lots of domestic skills, good with kids, and who are highly educated and financially well off but are also willing to pause their career up temporarily to stay at home with their kids. Similarly the top 1% of men are: are attractive, fit, tall and strong, fun, caring, romantic, intelligent, financia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 02:40 PM |
| 0 | Being shy or a little introverted can be considered an endearing trait in women, but is usually a very unattractive one for menPersonally not liking him and not wanting to have anything to do with him is normal. Wanting him banned from society and from interacting with anyone else is not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Being shy or a little introverted can be considered an endearing trait in women, but is usually a very unattractive one for menJust describe it, what’s your dating life like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 06:29 PM |
| 0 | Being shy or a little introverted can be considered an endearing trait in women, but is usually a very unattractive one for menYour comment is almost as unhinged as the one you’re complaining about. No one gets to decide who “participates in society” unless they are a criminal and you are an officer, then you do. If you don’t like a type of person just stay away from them. It’s as simple as that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 06:00 PM |
| 2 | Being shy or a little introverted can be considered an endearing trait in women, but is usually a very unattractive one for menThe way you’re so combative here makes me doubt your social skills. Dude, the other guy wasn’t attracting you, yet you’re defending yourself as if he is, its lame. Plus you still haven’t answered the question. Anyone can claim that they “do well with women,” but that’s a statement that will mean very different things to different people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 05:55 PM |
| 3 | Romantic love in the West is basically full of fundamental contradictions... no wonder it is a mess.Something I see often: society used to be a lot more sex positive before the rise of the modern incel movement. The main villain was the Christian puritanical groups who insisted that sex before marriage was a grave in. The narrative was that sex was fun, everyone should have sex. Abstinence is bad and teenagers deserve to explore sexuality, and they’ll do it anyway so abortion is unfeasible. Hell, there was even the crazy idea that men in sexually repressed countries turn to rape and prostituti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 03:12 PM |
| 10 | Are average men really desperate for sex?The “what’s the longest you’ve been without sex” question posted a few weeks ago was an eye opener. There were so many answer in the order of months. Some of them said that the longest was a few weeks since they begun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Is a woman having a job a bad thing?Who was talking about fairness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Is a woman having a job a bad thing?What kind of privileged environment do you live him where old men have good stories? Every single man’s life story I’ve heard has been a saga of stress and work and trying to scrape together a life from poverty (now being rich). And it’s not boomers embellishing either, life is though if you aren’t born into at least a little money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 07:05 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you?Seatbelts don’t stop accidents and deaths. You can take any amount of precautions as long as they don’t affect your ability to live. Refusing to travel is irrational behavior, driving an M1 Abrams is irrational behavior. Any fear isn’t 0 or 100, at a certain magnitude it becomes irrational. Fear itself is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you?Yeah, that literally doesn’t contract anything I said, did you even read | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 08:30 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you?What is this question? It’s standard to meet in a public or semi public place before going into the bedroom. Otherwise you’re practically ordering a booty call off Amazon. As for safety: don’t be a weirdo. Don’t touch sexually until she touches first. Don’t be pushy. Offer her options for everything so she doesn’t have to say a direct no. Don’t date weirdos to people that give you weird vibes. If someone is not fit for human interaction, there’s nothing you can do to make them feel safe, she nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you?Fears can be real, understandable, and irrational dude, there’s a lot of nuance to it. If you refuse to get into an automobile of any kind because you witnessed a bloody accident, then that’s understandable. However, it’s not rational. Statistically, car accidents make up a major percentage of deaths, and permanent injuries, PTSD, and loss of family and friends for young and middle aged people. That’s all true. But the probability of you being paralyzed from the waist down on the 1-mile grocery … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:26 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: what steps do you take to make women less afraid of you?Actually, I’d love to see that question asked. I want to know if women have every considered that before | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:14 PM |
| 19 | 85% of Chinese are not marrying and 60% are not procreatingLiterally every economist ever disagrees with that take. Like dude, actually think about what would happen if no babies were born. Every industry that relies on children would collapse first. Schools would close, daycare wouldn’t get cheaper, people would just work elsewhere. The kids who are born will have a more favorable job market but they’ll also have higher taxes, they’ll be even less likely to afford housing because everyone who turns their house into a retirement saving would do everythi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 06:56 PM |
| -1 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach women1100 men got murdered by “intimate partners.” 1700 women got murdered by “intimate partners.” Unless gay men made up a significant portion of those murders, I don’t see how you could possibly construe this any other way. ~1000 American women killed their partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenDepends on the type of friend I guess, a close friend is a no-no. But a casual you-see-them-once-in-a-while at the club friend is not too bad. I guess I meant closer to an acquaintance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 06:11 PM |
| 9 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.Have you tried that, desperate men are kinda shameless? Also, they kinda have. The whole simping thing was dunking on pathetic men who bought onlyfans, pay for women’s stuff, and basically prostrating themselves for the chance of intimacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenI think soft-rejecting cold approaches is fair. You don’t know the person. Soft-rejecting friends is a little hurtful but still not terrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 06:05 PM |
| 6 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenI feel like a better phrase is “men want their approaches to be socially validated and encouraged at all times” as the male extreme because the one you have sounds too reasonable. It’s reasonable for men to want to not get socially attacked and it’s reasonable for a woman to not want to be asked out by pushy and potentially unstable guys who can’t take a no. It’s understandable for a woman to not want to be bothered and it’s understandable for a man to want his approach to be taken at least poli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:50 PM |
| 0 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenWhere you you draw the line though? Are all fears valid, most, or some? Validating all fears, as dumb as it sounds, might be the best. In my experience, people will draw the line right at the edge of where their fears are validated but their opponents fears are “crazy and illogical” with millimeters to spare. Then they’ll move it when discussing another topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:44 PM |
| 2 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.That’s the right attitude. Too many people are willing to compromise because they’re lonely and desperate. The two questions that have to be answered: are you sexually attracted to them, would you be able to be in a domestic relationship with them. A lot of people go hard on one or the other because it’s either “passionate love” or a “stable marriage.” Even if you’re 60% on both categories when considering someone it’s way better than being 100% and 0% or vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenThis has very “castle doctrine” vibes. He wasn’t referring to women just being rude, but women who yell at him for approaching. Do you support that? Dude, you sound no different from a Republican gun nut that has vague warnings all over his property, and will shoot a gun at anyone who rings his bell, even Girl Scouts. If you are such a time bomb you do not belong in polite society. No you are not allowed to shoot people who knock on your door, you are not allowed to booby trap, you are not allow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenMen are also unfriendly to other men all the time. Gang violence, crime in impoverished neighborhoods. Dude, why does everyone here assume that every guy was a privilege aristocrat who could walk down the street with the sheer ignorance and casual flair of Ken in the Barbie movie. Some guys grew up like that but the majority of guys are very scared of other men, especially the type of man that has “he has a gun and is a loose cannon” vibes. A lot of guys were bullied by the bigger and stronger a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:23 PM |
| 7 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenDude, you have to have some privilege to say that. Men get stalked, threatened, and harassed by men ALL THE TIME in bad neighborhoods, I know two guys that were mugged at gun point, both men. If a guy thinks you’re disrespecting him he’ll pull a gun or knife on you. I was always taught how to deescalate and to not run around at night, and not to do anything stupid like go out alone in the “bad” neighborhood after 8pm. Men have absolutely no problem hurting other men for no reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Women discomfort to reject men seems to parallel the discomfort men have to approach womenIn the US in 2021, ~1700 women and ~1100 men were killed by domestic/intimate partners. It’s sad but it’s low and not very different between men and women. Source: https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021 The reason the rate for men is so much lower is because men get murdered a lot outside the house whereas women don’t. Only 6% of men were killed by a intimate partner but men were murdered at almost quadruple the rate women were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:07 PM |
| 9 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.Your ETA is interesting, I think it’s less that and more that men want a sexual/romantic spark to be generated by being a stable, competent, respectful and sincere guy. It’s idiosyncratic, but so is the problem that created the situation in the first place, people will get into relationships based on lust but then be surprised when it doesn’t work despite never considering the factors that make a relationship work. It’s wild to see so many women complain about their bfs being losers, unemployed,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 05:00 PM |
| 4 | the criteria women use for men to get a chance at a relationship are vastly different and at odds with the things that create and sustain a healthy relationships - this is a big reason contributer to dating problems today.I mean, that’s a great idea. Now figure out a way to practically do it before suggesting it again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:52 PM |
| – | How are men supposed to meet women?As a gen z man, can confirm. The reason that men don’t approach isn’t because it’s outright harassment, yes aggressively cold approaching someone is borderline harassment or can be construed that way. But approaching in friend groups or communities is seen as a social taboo, you are making the other person uncomfortable because they need to say no and deal with seeing you around again. Also it’s two strikes, you can maybe approach one or two people in a group but people talk and no one wants to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:36 PM |
| – | How are men supposed to meet women?You ever hear of the “gym creeps” trend on TikTok. The one we’re women just record random men, some of whom are hitting on them, some of which are minding their own business. There is a gym, that I can literally walk to that was part of a viral TikTok where a woman recorded a man who she thought was trying to impress her, all because he performed some reps near her while never looking at her (that’s how she was able to get away with filming him). Having your life destroyed is very rare, yes. But… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Women who are sexually active, what’s the longest you’ve ever gone without sex and how much of a struggle was it?I really love the way you explained it and as a guy in an ethnic household and shy who’s a few years older, I definitely relate. Definitely talked to tons of people in college, but it’s hard to have something genuine, something real. It’s like getting 80% of the way there is easy but there’s a barrier for the rest of the path to true intimacy. I don’t have a formula for it, I really hate when people say empty platitudes about it. Sometimes I think about what life is like for those who can’t have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 10:59 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: if your wife asked you to get a vasectomy, would you?Regardless of the data, most doctors will not do it unless you are absolutely 100% sure you are okay if it’s irreversible. It’s treated like it’s irreversible for the best interests of the patients | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 11:49 AM |
| 8 | "just be skinny" doesn't workYeah, all of them literally look normal. The only thing is that a 20 year old guy might not find most them attractive because they’re older, but they would all be attractive to some age appropriate men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?That’s equally wrong. You can do that, but you lose any sympathy from most people, you treated your prospects like objects and get treated the same in return. I think the only real difference is that most women are on the advantageous side of this dynamic first, earlier in life. So when men “respond” by dating younger women, and withholding commitment they feel justified in doing it. This is a dumb reason, but humans are dumb.🙃 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?The issue is that no one wants to be another person’s safety school or backup option. When men are young they see women prioritize looks and fun over anything else. But when they are 30 and financially stable they get more attention despite their physical looks getting worse, and and their interests, hobbies, and personality not having any dramatic change. The natural consequence of treating men like objects is that the men will treat you like objects back. It makes no sense that men want virgin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?This is the correct view that most good people hold. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who are neither good or obviously bad, just materialistic and self centered. This leads to men and women treating everyone, but especially partners as an object. Men are far more likely to divorce when their spouse gets disabled or a terminal illness. Women are more likely to leave when a man loses his job or has financial issues. They are just utilities and once their use is over, they leave. And the th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 07:16 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women are awfully entitled to male company and friendshipPrecisely, people don’t really have unlimited time. More established friends get priority, relationship finding gets priority, creating and sustaining a family gets priority | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 07:48 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women are awfully entitled to male company and friendshipI think your comment outlines why there’s such a disconnect. Anyone can have hundreds of “buddies” or casual acquaintances, people you see sometimes, have a little in common with, and act friendly towards but ultimately have no obligation to hang out or care about them. Whether that’s a “friend” is contentious. It’s all a both the definition. Personally a real friend is very different from a “casual friend” or acquaintance. If you act rude to someone or deny them common courtesy that’s awful, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 07:45 AM |
| 3 | A lot of women are awfully entitled to male company and friendshipThis is a perfect take. If a dude is salivating over every new woman at work and hounds them like a dog, then moves on to the next one immediately, that’s obviously bad. If a guy starts a conversation with a woman who’s new to the office, talks with her a few times, accompanies her to a company event, and then asks her if she wants to spend time outside, he didn’t do anything wrong. If he takes the rejection politely and says hi when he sees her plus occasionally makes small talk but doesn’t vol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 07:21 AM |
| 3 | A lot of women are awfully entitled to male company and friendshipI think the problem is that women are assuming friendship when there is none. That seems like a fault on their side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 07:08 AM |
| 4 | A lot of women are awfully entitled to male company and friendshipWhat does “be your friend to use your body” mean? Seriously, what does that look like? As an adult, unless you’ve known the person for at least a year you guys aren’t friends. You’ve just met and are being friendly with each other. There’s a difference between a friendly connection and a solid friend. If a guy waits years being friendly with you only to then reveal he was hoping your fall for him or he makes a move on you at a party then he’s both an asshole and a loser. If he gets to know you f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/23 06:35 AM |
| 3 | Is it true that a lot of guys are bitter about dating being better in their 30s?You have morals and values? You are not reading the standard issue redditor’s guide on how to eliminate empathy and reason, are you? 😐 Please comply, this is not a request. 🔫 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 08:18 AM |
| 3 | Is it true that a lot of guys are bitter about dating being better in their 30s?I think it’s because they feel like (and probably are) almost no different in terms of personality than their younger selves, it’s just that the advertising has gotten better their appearance, confidence, and maybe vibe and social skills. But their likes, hobbies, interests, views, sense of humor, and general personality hasn’t changed at all and if no one wanted them then, does anyone want them now? I think it’s hard to tell what exactly changes but it ought not to be a reflection of your value | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 08:12 AM |
| 3 | Is it true that a lot of guys are bitter about dating being better in their 30s?Honestly, it’s a great comment. I’m bookmarking it. I think that a reason why there’s so much disconnect in these posts is that the vast majority of people do not know how to deal with someone experiencing regret, anger, or bitterness over their “lot in life.” It happens so often in bad families, bad outcomes, lost opportunities. The outsider has 5 strategies to shut this down: Make it seem like it’s not such a big deal: “Hey your childhood sucked but you have your whole life ahead of you.” Make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 08:04 AM |
| 2 | Is it true that a lot of guys are bitter about dating being better in their 30s?Rural areas, 50k gets you a lot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 06:20 AM |
| 5 | What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon?Men are not exhausting. Stop with this misandry. I’ve watched every man in my family be abused by women. When I was a kid I thought I’d never get married because it was so awful. But then I grew up and realized that the world is full of various types of people, there are many men and women who are amazing and kind people. Blame yourself for not putting enough effort, or blame the dating system for not allowing you to find these people, but don’t blame whole swaths of the population just because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 01:56 AM |
| 2 | What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon?The answer to collapsing populations is always immigration | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 01:49 AM |
| 3 | What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon?The costs of raising kids are higher in developed countries. They’re not thinking about food or diapers, they’re thinking of college tuition and money for their kids to have opportunities. Also daycare is super expensive. The ideal western kid’s life involves having their own room, going to a good school (better more expensive neighborhoods have better schools), having money for sports and other activities, and having their college tuition paid by their parents. Even if you strike the last one o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 01:46 AM |
| 1 | What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon?They are; a lot of Indian immigrants who choose Canada because it’s easier to get into than the US and they don’t have a lottery system for green cards. When they get the opportunity to move to the US they do it, taxes are far lower and the salaries for software engineers are way higher, sometimes double or more what they can find in Canada. House prices are lower in the US (which sounds insane because US home prices are high but Toronto’s are off the charts). And in some US cities like Austin b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 01:37 AM |
| 6 | What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon?Bro, put down the tinfoil hat. Elon has no plan | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 01:31 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?Yeah, Japan is a depressing future for the world. It’s funny because they’re pumping out more wholesome romance anime than ever before but the opposite is happening in real life. A revolution would definitely change things. For one, the dating app monopoly needs to change and we need to bring back town squares, a place where teens and youth can just hang out and do nothing, both online and irl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 10:24 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?It’s so weird to see that opinion from a woman on here, you sure you’re not a bot? I’m kidding, but I think a lot of people, especially women, who reached the age of 25 before the pandemic just have a wildly different experience towards socialization. It was very visibly easier in the past than it is today. It affects young men worse than young women, but its stills way harder for a 25 year old woman today than a 25 year woman in 1998. Seriously, it’s hard enough to explain the financial system … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 09:28 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?Finally. I really appreciate your approach. It shows a high degree of self awareness. This is the closest evaluation to what the average guy experiences. Most normal, average guys have a few female friends and have no trouble just talking to a woman. I’d say with Gen Z guys 10% of them are—there’s no other way to put this—sluts, 10% of them are creepy and very off putting, but the middle 80% are just normal. The problem is that PPD and the internet just focuses on either 10% and makes up insane … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:21 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?What? The vast majority of normal men will not do that. The vast majority of normal women will also not try to humiliate a man approaching them. Normal people with just say “no thank you” with varying levels of subtle discomfort based on how aggressively you approach them. I swear PPD people need to touch grass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 08:00 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?That’s great and all, but it’s hardly an accomplishment. Like, congratulations on being a not-crazy person? The vast majority of people with the experience of being unattractive don’t do any of that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 07:55 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?I think your comment just perfectly illustrated the disconnect between men’s and women’s experiences. The male equivalent is a guy who doesn’t have a girlfriend and doesn’t have the girlfriends friends to tell him he looks good. He has female friends but they don’t compliment him. He goes to a party and gets zero interested looks from every type of woman. No one really bothered him, no one calls the cops on him if he attempts to talk to a girl but he doesn’t get any interest reciprocated. Hypoth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 07:50 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?This is an interesting point. It’s like men and women are comparing absolute values to relative values. Let’s say the average woman is invisible to 99% of guys and never asked anyone out, let’s say the average man is invisible to 99.9% of girls and gets rejected after he asked for a date in 75% of his attempts. To the average guy an average woman looks like she’s showered with attention, but to the average girl the instagram model looks like she’s being showered with attention. To the ugly guy w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 07:42 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?I agree with all of these but cosplay. There are many men in cosplay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 07:34 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?I mean the better question is why aren’t those women dating him? Someone needs to make the first move | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 07:30 AM |
| – | Female women, how would you feel if most men did not desire you at all?Why are we bringing age into this? Yeah most women aren’t 18-24 but all women were once 18-24. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/23 07:25 AM |
| 1 | What is the big deal about submission?I think it just comes down to bad experiences with that type of person. It’s especially grating when someone tries to defend their bad behavior by taking control as the moral authority. “I have to be like this because [insert justification that doesn’t have anything to do with the situation]”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 04:24 PM |
| 2 | What is the big deal about submission?Wow, this is the perfect way of explaining it! I watch a lot of Aircraft Disaster videos (I’m just really curious about them), and the cultures and practices of the aviation industry are some of the most advanced and forward thinking. I love the captain/first officer dynamic. One of my favorite stories is the 2018 Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 disaster. It had a 56 year old female captain and a 44 year old male first officer (interestingly it’s the only video I can remember with a female pilot,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Question for Women - Is it true that you find the majority of Men unnatractive?I don’t think most men are doing that. When men see something aesthetically pleasing it’s like a tiny spark going off in the distance, completely subconscious and it rarely ever results in a conscious thought. They’re not out here with clipboards evaluating women, lol. You’ll get way more attention in a burka in the US or any developed nation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 07:10 AM |
| 2 | Men dont NEED casual sexI don’t disagree, but you’d have to actually have read my comment to figure that out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Men dont NEED casual sexThat’s great for you, I didn’t mean it as a black and white child/not child divide but rather something that acts as a formative experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Men dont NEED casual sexIt’s definitely not a black and white thing. There are people forced into adulthood far younger for other reasons. It’s less about feeling like an adult and more about how these formative experiences change you and help you shape your perspective of the world. Being in the out group can leave you feeling isolated and different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:36 AM |
| 3 | Men dont NEED casual sexWhatever makes you feel good about yourself dude. Although your own comment history is nothing except bitching | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 10:29 AM |
| 5 | Men dont NEED casual sexOr you could also try engaging productively and intelligently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 06:43 AM |
| 9 | Men dont NEED casual sexLiterally every importantly guy in history was “some random dude with an opinion.” Except Maslow was also one of the most influential psychologists in the mid 20th century. You can criticize his theory but do it based on arguments, not on the fact that you think he’s just a dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 06:15 AM |
| 11 | Men dont NEED casual sexI think you are on to something, but I’d like to expand on that. It’s not necessarily a need, in the same way that having a birthday or celebrating holidays isn’t a need. Literally nothing will happen to you if you don’t have a birthday. Many people in many cultures don’t even know their birthday and have never celebrated it before. Nothing will happen if you never go on vacations or celebrate anything. But it’s the cultural context that determines these to be formative childhood experiences tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Men dont NEED casual sexBut you’re on PPD, listening to men complain. If you really didn’t want to you’re free to leave | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/23 05:42 AM |
| 7 | Women do not become more romantic later on in the relationship, women that say this don't actually know how to be that in a way that the other person appreciates.This sounds like you pulled it out of a romance novel marketed to middle aged women 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Women do not become more romantic later on in the relationship, women that say this don't actually know how to be that in a way that the other person appreciates.Not gonna lie, I appreciate a person who uses Gifs right and knows Persona | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 10:27 PM |
| 0 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsWhatever man, at this point you’re arguing against a sentiment no one made. No one denied that not having red flags is a good thing or an attractive thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 03:04 AM |
| 0 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsDude, you are saying the same thing. Also OP isn’t saying that all women will do this, just that enough women to make a generalization will do it. The central idea of both statements is that unusually high physical attractiveness will “make up” for a personality full of red flags, whereas that same personality wouldn’t work on those same women for a man who’s ordinarily attractive. To put it in crude math terms, if a woman wants a 7, she’d rather go for the guy with a 5/5 in looks and a 2/5 in p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 11:27 PM |
| 2 | If a man is really attractive, women will ignore his glaring red flagsYour position is exactly the same as OP’s. I think you just don’t like his tone so you’re repeating the same thing but rephrased. Some women will be “strict” about wanting someone with good character, and many won’t, they’ll just go with instant gratification. Same with men really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 11:05 PM |
| 4 | Reddit gives completely different answers depending whether a man or a woman is doing the asking for the same exact thing LOLMen have their friendliness misinterpreted as being flirty as well. It’s why there’s this common trope of men asking a woman an innocuous question or saying “good morning” and her responding “I have a boyfriend.” Similarly both genders also have it the other way around. I think he scenarios where these misunderstandings happen can be a little different between genders but both genders and nearly all people, even the most socially adept, have trouble finding the line between being friendly or fun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 10:47 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.Sure, not all women, I hope that solves it. Most women are reasonable people but there are enough crazy people to cause a fundamental shift in culture, especially if the normal people just ignore it. There’s a gym less than a mile away that was part of a mega viral TikTok earlier this year where a guy reacted to another popular TikTok of a woman who secretly filmed a guy who was just doing reps a few meters away and facing away from her, simply because she assumed he was showing off for her and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 09:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The potential negative consequences for warm approaching are much worse than for cold approaching.Fair, I respect you for admitting your mistake | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 08:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The potential negative consequences for warm approaching are much worse than for cold approaching.Dude, I liked your first comment, then the OP asked a question that could’ve facilitated you giving more details, then you said this. With a comment like that you should not be accusing someone else of self righteousness, you are ascribing negative traits to the OP and positive ones for yourself and using that to back up your argument, that’s the definition of self righteousness. Your attitude is preventing a productive discussion from happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 09:58 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.Fair enough, I guess that’s a more moderate view to hold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 04:22 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.Fair, I guess the point isn’t that it never happens anymore but that this situation is generally socially unacceptable and rarer, at the very least compared to previous decades. You hear stories like this all the time: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/comments/155mxhb/i_appreciate_it_when_men_hit_on_me/jsvh58c/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3 And on that post the majority of women don’t want to be bothered while grocery shopping… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 06:35 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.Being put on TikTok is hyperbole, it happens but it’s a minority of cases. But being generally socially unacceptable, at least compared to previous decades is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 06:31 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men who are not naturally good at dating and finding sexual partners cannot become good at it without making some women uncomfortable.Everytime this question pops up I ask women how old they are, can I ask that of you too? Invariably the answer tends to be over 35, when this behavior was acceptable. For the young generation, it’s been decided that it’s not okay to ask a woman for her number at a store or shop or cafe. If you do you’ll be recorded and posted to TikTok. The women are in that place to shop or eat or do something and you’ll ruin her day with an unsolicited conversation attempt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 06:49 AM |
| 4 | Why do women hold it against guys who are late bloomers?Those guys are dumb as rocks. But I think some of it comes down to the reason why you didn’t date as a younger person. I think there’s a very real fear of having your vulnerability exploited when you open up about the real reason why you haven’t dated. A lot of women say they had trauma growing up and they had to work on it (the worlds fault, not mine), or they were pursuing a career (strong independent woman), or that there just weren’t enough quality guys (the worlds fault), or that they didn’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 06:40 AM |
| 12 | Most discussions of overweight women are disingenuous because they reference women with desirable pear shaped bodies, but the vast majority of overweight women do not look like that.Bro made a continuity error | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 04:55 AM |
| 3 | Why don't women compliment and approach men?I appreciate your perspective. And I think it really fits in with performative masculinity. I think men and women speak a different language (that’s not a dig at either men or women, that’s age just how it is). When men and boys say wild, controversial, edgy, and sometimes even gross stuff they don’t mean it. They say it to get shock and attention and because it’s funny. Being a shy guy doesn’t get you anything. No one cares, the shy girls look down on you and no one really wants you around. Plu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/23 07:47 PM |
| 2 | At this point in time women already have complete psychological control over men.Lol at the edit, that was perfect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/23 12:12 AM |
| 17 | CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.I’d like to bookmark this comment and quote it later. I see 3 big problems this century, all deeply interconnected. The economy, human relations, and the environment. All of these systems require genuine human cooperation to work. Genuine human cooperation includes sometimes giving more than you receive in the short term so that we can all be better off long term. Right now we live in a culture that heavily prioritizes looking out for yourself and yourself alone. The only times those are flipped… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 09:08 PM |
| 1 | If a woman doesn't kiss passionately on the first kiss, she's just not into a guyIt’s not a contradiction so much as it is a jump from one extreme to another. This is the lifecycle of that though process: A lot of women are very passive in dating and men are just told to accept that. She shows up for dates but never initiates texts, conversations, touches, or anything else. Then when the guy opens up about this problems the internet clowns on him for continuing on dates with a woman who’s clearly not interested in him. Then he goes on a date with a woman who puts slightly mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 11:48 PM |
| – | Women have total control of the dating marketI mean I’m sure that happens, but for a lot of young guys that hasn’t happened yet, and there’s no evidence to suggest it’ll happen soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 06:10 PM |
| 2 | Beauty is subjective, but unattractive men should know their placeThanks for your answer. I find it commendable that you took time to reflect. I only ask because it seems like a lot of times people don’t clarify whether something is inconsequential, a bonus, or something they’ll tolerate. Many people prefer dating someone in their culture or race, but they’ll ignore that if they find someone they just happen to vibe with, same with any other physical or social attribute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 04:30 PM |
| 4 | Beauty is subjective, but unattractive men should know their placeFor a math teacher I’d expect you to know the pitfalls of statistics like that. Something that’s both subjective and self reported is destined to be very skewed, those studies are useful as a curiosity they don’t prove anything and the researchers acknowledge as much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 04:18 PM |
| 18 | Beauty is subjective, but unattractive men should know their placeI think it’s because there’s been a very concerted effort to make women feel beautiful about themselves. The push for “love yourself at all costs” has meant that people put self love about all else, particularly women. Men will say very different things about their unattractiveness. In person they’ll joke about being Adonis (even if they’re super overweight) or they’ll make self deprecating jokes. But in the company of other men or anonymously online they’ll say how ugly they are, how they’ve ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 04:15 PM |
| 5 | Beauty is subjective, but unattractive men should know their placeIt’s because insecure men are seen as attention seeking, whiny, unmasculine, and unattractive. Men have to maintain a sense of false bravado. Using self reported data is absolutely pointless here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Beauty is subjective, but unattractive men should know their placeQuick question. When you say “like” does that mean you actively find something desirable/preferable about that quality, or are entirely indifferent, or will tolerate shortness so long as the rest of the person is good Just curious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 04:01 PM |
| -1 | Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the worldI apologize for assuming you’re a woman, must have been thinking of someone else. But my point stands, it’s not that they can’t learn to code if they restarted their lives, it’s that that kind of career changing disruption is infeasible for almost everyone. It would take years for them to learn the required knowledge to start an entry level coding job, and then they’d have to start from the bottom, earning way less than a mid career coal miner. Perhaps coal miner isn’t the best example of the mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 11:43 PM |
| -1 | Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the worldI highly doubt they have anything to do with environmentalism. The vast majority of people aren’t thinking about the environment when choosing careers. Environmentalism only really became a thing 50 years ago because of the oil crisis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 11:31 PM |
| -2 | Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the worldUm, yes? Idk what they’ve taught you but all manual labor jobs involve a great deal of mental workload. It’s not like standing in one place in a factory and doing repetitive tasks. Dude, as a woman in STEM you should have put this together. Miners have to work with tools, line up heavy machinery, calculate safety risks, implement the best and most efficient systems to bring coal up to the surface. It requires training, knowledge, and mental work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 11:25 PM |
| 10 | Most controversial gender views here are literally just common sense, around the worldMost ancient people knew the Earth was round. There was so much evidence for it. The Flat Earth was a myth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 11:15 PM |
| 13 | Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinityI agree, I think the way men describe what a masculine man means to women is completely wrong. Women generally like men that are: extroverted (or at least an introvert with very high social skills), funny, charming, interesting, intelligent, bold, kind, hard working, emotionally resilient, is very comfortable financially, good with kids, has lots of friends/is respected in the community, and physically capable (doesn’t have to be a bodybuilder just big enough to feel protective and carry heavy s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Women actually want to be approached by a manWe weren’t even talking about the marriage rate. Dude, make sure you’re replying to the right person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 11:19 PM |
| -1 | Women actually want to be approached by a manBut you still need people to do the labor of taking care of elderly folks. And the tax has an opportunity cost, if more time and money is spent on taking care of old people, less is spent elsewhere. It has to come from somewhere, but you probably don’t care since you seem to be a nihilist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 10:55 PM |
| -1 | Women actually want to be approached by a manDude, it’s called labor, and it’s non-optional in any economy. The alternative is extinction. Someone has to take care of these old people in nursing homes, and that requires funding which requires taxing the working populations, unless you think people should just die after they retire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Women actually want to be approached by a manAustralian? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Women actually want to be approached by a manThat doesn’t give her any right to say “fuck off” to a stranger. That’s the mark of a socially mal-adjusted person, and probably needs therapy. Too often people who are doormats will flip to being aggressive when they’ve had enough. That’s not the right way to do it. A competent adult should be able to be polite but firm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?Fair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:52 PM |
| 5 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?A lot of people lack the ability to see others as human beings, many women included. Even cheerful people have to have serious and sad moments. I'm sorry that happened to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?I don't think those two types overlap. Maybe they have other qualms about women not related to this specific scenario? I also think it's rare for a woman to be mean if you do the second one. But say if the guy doing the second one gets rejected 25 times in a row, he's going to logically assume that women don't want to be approached or that even that approach was creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?She could also say she's busy to the cafe guy, like even in your example she is giving the guy an instant answer. If he just skedaddled after telling the girl where the show is then it would make sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 08:13 PM |
| 5 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?Lol, is jestermaxx a new term? I can't keep up with the new terminology. But the concept isn't bad, a lot of women are into guys that can lead the entire conversation, be funny, and have exceptional social skills. If you can achieve that then just do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 07:38 PM |
| 3 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?Can I ask how old you are (I know the "never ask a woman her age" adage), or just what generation you are from? I don't think most Gen Z girls would disagree with your experience. They get constant attention on dating apps, but don't get asked out in public, although this is extremely country and environment dependent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 07:21 PM |
| 4 | Men can't cold approach, but they can't ask out their female friends either. What options are we left with?What's your interpretation of TRP social skills? Is it: "Hey pretty lady, you look a little lonely, wanna come home with me? (creepy chuckle)." "Hey, I like your Pikachu backpack (continue small talk), I'm going to a cafe down the street, would you like to join me?" Because while the first one is sadly present in the community, far more people try to teach men how to do the second one. Sure, it's creepy if the guy is nervous and fumbles his approach, but that's what they're trying to learn what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Most dating problems are just men being horny, and women being selectiveThat’s just your garden variety socially dead dystopia. Japan is already there and has a sinking birth rate and everything. Resulting in inflation, high taxes, a huge retried population and a small working one… It’s not a big problem for the US since it has an unlimited supply of skilled immigrants who get paired up early, are ready and eager to have children and have a strong sense of community even after they’re thrown into a completely new country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 11:45 PM |
| 11 | How often are women marrying men they have little sexual desire for (or far little compared to other guys they’ve been with)? Are they cognizant of the long term effects of such decisions?This is the problem with pill language, it can mean both except it’s also context dependent. Also they tend to use the adjective and the noun completely differently. Beta guy vs guy who has beta behaviors. It’s kind of like how “girl boss” and “bossy girl” sound similar but have almost polar connotations. The beta is either the simping, doormat, puts women on a pedestal man who’s only redeeming quality is that he’s nice and provides and cares for the woman, or he’s kind of weak and hopeless and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever had a close, heterosexual female platonic friend before?Define “close.” If it’s a best friend for life, then no. But good friends that you can share details of your personal life with? Yes, at least 6 that were solidly “close.” Part of it was due to having a very small class size in school. Everyone was friends with everyone. And a few in college too, they’re no longer close, both physically and metaphorically, but I can still call most of them up and talk. I only asked one of them out. She and I used to talk for hours straight, several times a month… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 11:09 PM |
| 7 | Why don’t people just date people who align with their interests?That last reason is interesting. I think that a lot of people, young people especially, don’t feel like there’s plenty of fish in the sea despite being more connected than ever. A few decades ago you used to date people in the community, you saw them, grew up in the same culture, probably the same religion, and you at least were superficially compatible. Because you’re dating people from all over instead of your own community you’re more likely to have different experiences, different cultures, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 12:13 AM |
| 3 | Women look at the men they are dating glass half empty, while men look at them glass half fullI didn’t mean to suggest that female friendships don’t have encouragement or competition built into them. They do, but they also have emotional support and cuddles. For whatever reason it just doesn’t work that way for men. Separating the roles for these types of intimacy is more meaningful and feels far more natural. I think I need an example. Watch the both the spiderverse movies, but especially the 2018 one The way Miles Morales interacts with his (awesome) dad and his mother is so different.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Women look at the men they are dating glass half empty, while men look at them glass half fullI think you’ve managed to seriously misunderstand men (not hard to do on PPD). I see this opinion a lot from people who aren’t men, and it’s just wrong. To men, friendships (specifically male friendships) and female relationships fill very different needs. In fact they almost fulfill the complete opposite need of a female partner. Male friends are there to do things with, to be competitive, to show off your skills, to push you to be more ambitious, to push you to do better. They are there to com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 05:11 PM |
| 4 | What are mens opinions on gym girls?I don’t think showing skin is the reason why he’s insecure. I’d wager that he thinks that of any hot girl. Presumably because he’s not “hot.” Also therapy only works if you want to fix the problem and if you even think that it is a problem. If you don’t have motivation and a reason for getting better nothing will happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 05:32 PM |
| – | CMV: Maine legalizing the selling of sex, but criminalizing the buying of it is another example of institutionalized misandry.Fair enough, makes more sense coming from that point of view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 05:01 AM |
| – | CMV: Maine legalizing the selling of sex, but criminalizing the buying of it is another example of institutionalized misandry.I mean you can make the “due diligence” argument for anyone. If you want protection, hire a bouncer, work in groups, carry weapons, do it online, or just don’t do it at all, get a better job. If you keep going you can dismiss any crime saying the victim should’ve been more careful. The point is that there are a lot of predatory people preying on the buyers. Just because the victim was stupid doesn’t make the crime any less worse. Also, the in US prostitution is an underground industry, if you co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 04:17 AM |
| – | CMV: Maine legalizing the selling of sex, but criminalizing the buying of it is another example of institutionalized misandry.“Extremely privileged” compared to whom? If it’s victims of sex trafficking, yeah, every person in America is extremely privilege compared to them because they actually have freedom and aren’t essentially a slave. Also need a source for “legally buying sex increases sex trafficking” there is a lot of prostitution going on illegally in every country that has banned it. If anything having it legalized allows more opportunities for victims to escape and report their situation to the authorities. No… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:19 AM |
| – | CMV: Maine legalizing the selling of sex, but criminalizing the buying of it is another example of institutionalized misandry.Pimps vs consensually selling sex is completely different. It’s a different conversation. Even the most pro-sex work people oppose sexual slavery and trafficking. That will be illegal no matter what. It doesn’t have much to do with the pro or anti-sex work conversation because it’s bad no matter what, it’s going to happen whether general sex work is legal or not, and trafficking is a broader problem than prostitution (which is just the tip of the iceberg of human trafficking). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 01:37 AM |
| – | CMV: Maine legalizing the selling of sex, but criminalizing the buying of it is another example of institutionalized misandry.You don’t think buyers are introduced to risks that they can scarcely understand? Let me introduce you to STDs, theft, drugging, extortion, assault, revenge porn, and murder. It’s well known in many South American and other developing countries that you may get drugged with a “date rape” drug if you visit a prostitute, and have all your clothes and money stolen, also it’s common to be taken to a house where other men will kidnap him and extort the family for money, or just straight up kill him. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 01:16 AM |
| 0 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.No one asked you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 11:50 PM |
| 7 | [CMV] You have to PAY in order to be lovedEven children and pets have limits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 10:18 PM |
| – | 2 years of online dating. Here are the things I've learned about womenDepends very much from person to person. If they’re a romantic then being blunt will disappoint them. If they’re just horny or lonely and already like you then it’ll work perfectly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 05:16 PM |
| 7 | Dating in the Modern Age is Analogous to Wealth Inequality in Later Stage Capitalism.I mean the point is that the second guy is the real catch once you get to know him (and learn that he makes a ton of money and is smart with a decent personality). But on the surface all people can see is a sweaty electrician and a handsome, fit young guy. Increasingly, at least for Gen Z, there isn’t much of a difference between short and long term relationship finding. If you wouldn’t have a one night stand with them then why pursue a long term romantic relationship where the attraction just i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 05:09 AM |
| 4 | Should a man be required to support an ex-wife for the rest of his life?I think most people mostly agree with your take, and it’s the most balanced and reasonable one imo. Prenups should be much more popular, it takes much of the stress out of the divorce process. To me it says “I’ll always love and want the best for you even if our marriage doesn’t work out and we go our separate ways.” Kids don’t have to see their parents fight over money in the event they split up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Should a man be required to support an ex-wife for the rest of his life?If you get divorced at 60, or anywhere near retirement age, then assets gained during marriage, including retirement savings, should be split. Assets are a one time payment so the equation is much different than permanent alimony. However, if the spouse gets half the assets and a few years of alimony, I think that’s where the financial connections should end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 03:06 AM |
| 6 | Should a man be required to support an ex-wife for the rest of his life?Prenups are for the protection of both parties. Both of them know exactly what’s going to happen in a divorce which takes a lot of the headache and heartache out of it. It’s peace of mind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/23 03:03 AM |
| 5 | what do men really think of female virgins?I think that’s what most people want too. But it’s hard finding people that are in the same phase of exploring their sexuality. And there are way more male virgins than female ones, at least outside the religious community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:49 AM |
| 2 | what do men really think of female virgins?1 and 3 are just depressing. Hard rules and negative preconceived notions will get you nowhere. Each individual is different, it’s not wrong to expect sex quickly or to expect to wait but it is wrong to push those ideals onto a potential partner or be upset at them for having different views. If you disagree then you either talk it out and see if you can make something work or live on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/23 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys even like women? Why?That’s nice and all, but for a lot of people it’s not always as simple as saying “meet better people.” I think both pills often cling to extremes when talking about the results of love “everything will be okay” is just as toxic as saying “nothing will be okay.” Not everyone will find someone, even if they do everything right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Would you break up with your partner if she put on 25-30kgs/55-66lbs?Thank God some people are speaking sense. I swear half the comments are like “I’d leave her if she eats a chocolate bar” and the others are like “I have unconditional love for my partner, it doesn’t matter what they do.” You decide what matters to you, whether something like that is important to you. And then you deal with the consequences of your choices | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 03:05 PM |
| 1 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?I don’t think it’s so much that they’re saying looking for a job is objective and merit based—it’s not. Getting a job is not an objective process at all. It depends heavily on social skills, looks, preconceived notions about your background, the interviewers mood, etc. It depends on whether you have connections, whether they believe you went to a good school, how much your last place valued you, whether you even had previous experience, and random chance. Plus many people are filtered out becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:56 PM |
| 2 | Women constantly assert that men have inflated self images, yet it is abundantly clear that most men are desperate and have zero standards. Women, on the other hand, consistently feel entitled to men way out of their league and think they are models when they are completely average looking.That’s another opinion article from a non-scientific source. It’s a bad idea to use that as a source, even if the expert seems to have credentials, because those are not fact checked or peer reviewed and they have every incentive to be exaggerated for clicks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:41 PM |
| 6 | Women constantly assert that men have inflated self images, yet it is abundantly clear that most men are desperate and have zero standards. Women, on the other hand, consistently feel entitled to men way out of their league and think they are models when they are completely average looking.Please don’t post Psychology Today links. They’re a garbage source. Even if they list sources the article is often so far departed from the content of the sources that it’s more opinion than fact. Expert opinions are still opinions, and Psych Today is questionable on even those fronts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Who do you think has it harder in these two scenarios?I think you have to include average men and women into this equation too. Otherwise the picture just looks weird. Attractive ≈ top 10% in looks. Average people is the middle 80% and ugly ≈ bottom 10%. I don’t know what exactly you mean by “harder” but I’m defining it as social opportunities and interactions which allow them to benefit legally, financially, socially, romantically, and mental health wise. In that order I’d put Attractive man > Attractive woman > Average Woman > Average man > Ugly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 01:37 PM |
| 1 | How hard or difficult is it for you to find a hot, handsome guy for some fun ?I’m genuinely curious. How would you define a “thicc” man? Or rather, what male celebrity closest matches what your ideal is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Is is true that being a single mother penalizes a woman more than dating than being a single father does for men?That’s fair, not everyone can be a stepmom. And not everyone should. When it comes to dating parents, unless their kid is older and out of the house the kid will always come first. That’s neither a good or bad thing, it’s just a question of what relationship you’d like to have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 09:36 PM |
| 5 | Public/social life (what little there is) is totally hostile to single menI don’t really see that in modern times. There are a ton of social groups for 30-50 year old single women. However, I do agree that it’s pretty tough for lone women (no friends either), I rarely see a lot of older women doing activities alone. Women are expected to travel in girl groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 09:54 PM |
| 7 | Public/social life (what little there is) is totally hostile to single menThe answer seems to be no, and by “single male” I don’t think he’s implying that’s he’s just romantically single but that he’s a guy alone in that social situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 09:46 PM |
| 7 | The struggle between the elites and the brutes in Halo 2 is akin to the struggle between RPers and BPers in real lifeIt’s the first post in eons that isn’t “<gender> is doing something wrong” or a hot take that isn’t a hot take, or something about human nature. It’s beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | When men say they don't want a career woman, it's not that they don't want a woman who has a career, they just don't want a "boss babe".Nah, you’re good. I think that attitude is more than fair to have and it’s the right kind of thinking for a peaceful partnership | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:30 PM |
| 3 | When men say they don't want a career woman, it's not that they don't want a woman who has a career, they just don't want a "boss babe".That’s a huge misinterpretation of that comment. They said that they’d personally like their partner to share their values, or at least not be opposed to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:29 PM |
| 6 | When men say they don't want a career woman, it's not that they don't want a woman who has a career, they just don't want a "boss babe".Honestly those opinions are wild. It’s so weird that the red pill simultaneously has so many hardcore anti-traditionalists and so many traditionalists. The original concept wasn’t even about traditional roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4A : Do you think parents are confused as to why their perfectly normal son hasn’t found a partner in their late twenties and early thirties?I’m not kidding. Granted, I don’t live in a major city, but if I limit my search to events 50 miles away there aren’t a ton, but there are dozens of online ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:12 PM |
| – | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themYes, the same way we social condition children to not be assholes, respect others, not be evil, ask for consent, etc. You can tell them to do this, but they will decide how they want to lead their life by observing examples and thinking critically about why they shouldn’t do these things. You socially condition adults in the same way. You socially condition your parents when you tell them how to parent. They have some old school ideas that don’t align with yours, you sit them down and reason wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4A : Do you think parents are confused as to why their perfectly normal son hasn’t found a partner in their late twenties and early thirties?It varies across culture. I know that in Asian cultures like mine it’s extremely common, even in those born, and living in the west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 05:22 PM |
| 3 | Q4A : Do you think parents are confused as to why their perfectly normal son hasn’t found a partner in their late twenties and early thirties?You know, you are one of the only people on this subreddit that feels like… a trustworthy and wise adult. The rest of the time it feels like it’s run by frustrated and bitter children arguing about trivial things (and I’m including myself for self-awareness sake). Your response is very empathetic and at the end of the day I think that’s what most lonely young adults want, at least I think they do. Social life is harder in this generation than in any other. For introverts it’s about gathering the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Q4A : Do you think parents are confused as to why their perfectly normal son hasn’t found a partner in their late twenties and early thirties?If you have never tried then it’s worth a try, but if you have tried, forcing yourself to go to something you don’t like and trying to like it is a fool’s game. You will not have fun and you’re unlikely to socialize like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:30 PM |
| 6 | Q4A : Do you think parents are confused as to why their perfectly normal son hasn’t found a partner in their late twenties and early thirties?I’m highly skeptical of that last claim and I’m not Googling that term. But I do think the phenomenon is prevalent especially when parents believe they’ll be left to live on their own in their old age. The prospect of loneliness and isolation isn’t something anyone wants to deal with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason that men "play games" when pursuing sex/relationships is primarily because women are more attracted to men who can hide their level of attractionThe “hot and cold” thing is an asshole strategy. It’s meant to confuse the other party and it’s highly manipulative. Guys who do this probably aren’t serious. I think what the OP is saying though is more along the lines of “don’t be desperate” because that’s unattractive, and displaying too much attraction too early is interpreted as desperate, therefore don’t display too much attraction. It’s a jerk move to give affection and then take it away randomly. But this is being very controlled about h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Seriously? Dude, just admit you wanted something to complain about. Nothing about this puts women down. No person with a brain would think that. I haven’t said anything that isn’t correct or is offensive to anybody reasonable, so I’m not tone policing myself for your weird standards. Also what makes you think I “struggle” with something? Did I mention it anywhere or are you just making assumptions because you want a quick “gotcha”? Hint: It’s the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Good luck to you. It’s not bad to be vigilant. I hope you have a positive experience and get what you were looking for from the program :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.I’m sorry you received that comment, fuck that asshole. Retort with logic and facts, the military has hundreds of roles that don’t require the kind of peak physical strength that a much greater proportion of men than women have. Engineers, technicians, software developers, doctors, nurses, medics, admin, communications, cooks, operational staff, research, production, manufacturing, logistics, operating heavy machinery, pilots, etc. Being in the infantry is far from the only job in the military. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.I don’t disagree with anything you said. Just because there is sexism in academia doesn’t take away form the fact that many fields in social work are female dominated and that women’s issues are studied quite well, at least socially. And men clearly do have issues beyond sexlessness, just check the male suicide rate compared to women’s. Boys falling behind in school, big socially retreating, not going to college, etc. it’s not being studied, partly due to the dominance of women in the field, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 12:27 PM |
| 3 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themYou didn’t even attempt to understand my explanation. Also that’s literally not even passive voice. “She” is the subject, and she is doing the action. Active voice: She is doing <something>. Passive voice: <Something> is being done to/by/for her. We’re done here, if you won’t read, and I have to explain third grade English terms to you, we’re never going to go anywhere productive. Bye | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 11:28 AM |
| 3 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.What? Is this some kind of joke comment? Women’s issues are being studied. 95% of all studies involving gender as a variable are focused on women’s issues. Male loneliness has just now started being researched and makes up a drop in the ocean among all the gender related studies. Also men don’t outnumber women in academia. At least not in the academia that’s related to this. Most psychology graduate programs are majority women. Gender studies is almost entirely women. Sociology is majority women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Link to the paper? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:51 AM |
| 3 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Jesus fucking Christ. Could you take this seriously for one goddamn moment? No you don’t understand mental illness, nor do you understand socialization. Also, it’s not me that has a problem with socialization, I can talk to strangers just fine. I guess you wouldn’t understand empathizing with people who are different from you, and wanting to help them. Also autism isn’t a mental illness you absolute tool. It’s clear you know nothing of what you’re talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:47 AM |
| 0 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.And you are glazing over the millions of young men who aren’t Andrew Tate fans who do want help. Sure, don’t help if you don’t want to, and sure go after Tate on the comments section of his YouTube videos. But don’t use him as an excuse to universally paint lonely men with the same brush. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.I have never suggested wanting an echo chamber. And yes, you are the person complaining. Your actions and your claims say two different things. And again, no what I suggested does not, in fact, imply what you saying. I’ve visited their subreddits and no, they do not, in fact, agree with me whatsoever. They’re going about everything the wrong way, as are you imo. They are similar to you: both of you are complainers who aren’t interested in solutions. Why do men need social help? That’s a great qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Great. Then I suggest you leave. I have never suggested that women act as mothers and therapists. If you really have nothing to contribute then again, why are you here? It seems like you do nothing but complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:13 AM |
| -1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Sure. Andrew Tate is bad. We agree. There are still plenty of men who want genuine advice, and many boys who ended up following him could’ve been persuaded otherwise if someone actually listened and helped them, which they patently did not. Now that we agree, can we refocus on helping the millions who want help? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.It no one’s “responsibility,” you are not obligated to help anyone. You do it because you want to. If you are not interested in helping people, that’s fine, but why are you in this sub? Do you just want to endlessly complain? And no, not all women do get boyfriends and friends. It a more common problem in men, but it’s by no means exclusive. You’re framing it as a “man vs woman” problem and implying that this is some sort of zero sum game. It’s not. I don’t agree that it’s a man vs women problem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:02 AM |
| -2 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.I’m not sure what you want. People are already doing everything you said. It’s just that this specific corner of the internet is talking about dating issues. Having friends isn’t some sort of qualification for dating, that kind of thinking will lead to shallow relationships. You can’t just will a social support structure into existence. If people want something they’ll pursue it and many people are already asking about friendships in other corners. Friends aren’t a substitute for relationships a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.I see from your profile that you’re not Gen Z. Things have changed. Friendships are harder to find. Yeah, most people including myself have one or two intimate platonic long term relationships where we really care for one another, but it’s difficult to find and make more. Sure casual friendships are not that hard to find. Everyone is happy to have casual friends, but finding the type of friends that are as close to you as family is what’s hard. In 1983 adults had on average, three close friends.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 03:13 AM |
| 5 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Because that’s not how this works. And that’s like telling a depressed person to just be happy, if it were possibly they’d have done it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 02:52 AM |
| 3 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Well, most women haven’t seen most men yet, most people will never see most people in their lifetimes so there are always new faces out there. Attraction is very fluid, culture, media, exposure, and lots of other things influence it. Yes, you can’t usually change attraction for people you’ve already met, but you haven’t met everyone. Also the idea of leagues and ranking people’s looks is stupid imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Sure, you’re free to interpret it in a simplistic way. But I don’t think you should be zeroing in on a reason for why these people have failed bedrooms, only the couple knows exactly why their marriage is failing, If you read experiences of those people it’s very varied and could be caused by a ton of other things. I highly doubt that loveless marriage is the only reason for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 09:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themI think there’s a fundamental misunderstanding here. But I have to spell it out. He wasn’t saying that a woman who has already decided that a particular man is unattractive suddenly flip a switch and become attracted to that particular man. Okay, with me here? He was saying that through a combination of social influence and conditioning, that women (perhaps only young women) broaden their understanding of men (as a gender or just blue collar men, I’m not sure) and view them in a different light.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 09:18 PM |
| 0 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.I don’t understand your last sentence at all. I’ve disagreed on ideas that other commenters have, I don’t recall ever tone policing anyone on this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 09:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themThis is exactly what I’m criticizing. He clarified what he meant in replies and you still misinterpreted it. His idea of a quota of women in dirty and dangerous jobs is fully insane but the underlying point isn’t (even if I don’t agree with it). He’s not demanding all women be attracted to all men. He’s claiming that women have inflated images of themselves because of social media, and the way to do undo (presumably on a societal level) this is to increase the respect for men as a gender that wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 08:56 PM |
| 2 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.No one can say what’s wrong and what’s right. There’s no blueprint for a perfect marriage. What we can do is give individuals the tools and opportunity to find someone and take a shot at happiness. The more people the better. And as for what’s important, the only answer is all of them. They’re all super closely connected, people who feel better have a better quality of life and contribute more to society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 08:37 PM |
| -1 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Great, we’re at an impasse. Somehow you are convinced that a sizable number of people are telling women to be attracted to men they aren’t attracted to. And I’m saying that’s not the case. We disagree on a fact. You are free to provide evidence for your claim, since you are making the non-null hypothesis. And again, we are not talking about these people. We are talking about people who want to improve but don’t know how. If someone wants to be a horrible person you can’t preach at them and sudde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 08:31 PM |
| -3 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Sure, I agree but your comment is completely unnecessary and out-of-topic right now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 08:25 PM |
| 7 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Sure, I’ll condemn all the men who do the shitty things to describe. But they’re not on the subreddit at this moment. Only an absolute idiot would go purposefully looking for people to condemn or preach at online. I’ll comment on whatever comes organically on my feed or inbox and right now it’s you, therefore I’m speaking to you, and my advice applies to you. No one is asking any individual women to find another individual man attractive. Full stop. Men don’t need “insider information” that’s co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 08:21 PM |
| 4 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.That’s your experience as an individual. It’s fine if you don’t see male loneliness as a problem, but it doesn’t mean that the problem doesn’t exist in reality. Not everyone needs to or is capable of helping. The only thing one can ask of you is that you don’t be a roadblock to progress on this issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.Yes, you are correct about marriage in the past. It was about practicality. But in the last century in the west it has transitioned to love-based relationships. But again, it’s clear that our predecessors didn’t get it right as there are so many unhappy couples, divorces, and marital strife. Just look at the r/deadbedrooms sub. But that just means that there’s so much optimization on the table. We have tons and tons of young people, both men and women, crying out for more socialization and compl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 07:59 PM |
| 8 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.We are addressing the lack of platonic relationships too (not everyone, but I speak for myself). In general the problem with male socialization is very similar to dating. In terms of GenZ, friendships are similarly hard to come by. Especially irl friends. Read the link in the post. It’s about a guy who tried to find friends and was shunned. It society as a whole, men and women, that needs to help, not one gender. If you are suggesting that lonely men just gather and become friends with themselve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 07:48 PM |
| 3 | Asking that women be with men they are not attracted to has never, is never, and will never be a remotely plausible solution to anything.It’s almost impossible to get everyone who wants it “paired up.” That reality has already existed. But we can do better than today, especially since we see more lonely people than in previous decades. If we can reverse that trend, that’ll be great, we will never get to 100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 07:24 PM |
| 8 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themI think the type of thinking that you described is very prevalent. It’s the same reason why when a woman complains about how men are scary and about all the bad things men do, men in the comments feel personally attacked and assume the woman wants them specifically to do directly something about it, rather than just understanding and empathizing. No one is obligated to do anything, these posts are made to help people empathize, to share ideas and to figure out something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 06:05 PM |
| 6 | CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to themJesus Christ, how on Earth did you come to that conclusion? Please link a recent comment from this sub that says those exact words. You are jumping to the worst, most unhinged interpretation of these ideas. No one in their right kid would even for a goddam moment entertain the thought of suggesting a woman be with a man she doesn’t want to be with. Seriously, I don’t like many of the red pill guys here, they’re crazy, but this is on a whole other level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 05:58 PM |
| 19 | Men who envy women dont appreciate what they haveI don’t think men’s “image” is a mirror equivalent of a woman’s “image.” More things go into a man’s image. Women are judged for their face, body, voice, disposition, and conversational skills. Men are judged for their face, body, height, voice, disposition, conversational skills, social presence, and financial standing. It’s mostly the same things but the weights are different, women’s are judged more for their looks and men are judged more for for their status and social skills. You have milli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 05:56 AM |
| 0 | Men who envy women dont appreciate what they haveBillionaires are a microscopic portion of the population. Ignoring that if we just look at millionaires, nearly all of them are in heterosexual marriages so women have access to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 05:15 AM |
| 2 | In what ways could both sexes come to a better understanding?What you are describing is damn near impossible, not just practically but on paper. How would you possibly engineer a solution to that that involves a fully grown human’s genes? It’s not impossible to make designer babies, modify the genes in a single zygote and allow it to grow. It’s just extremely hard to do and we don’t have the tools or procedures to do it with any success or reliability. But it is possible on paper. What you are describing isn’t possible on paper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 10:38 PM |
| 6 | The idea that these countless men who are struggling to get their equivalent are somehow ALL overrating their own appearance is just disingenuous. There are some men who do, sure but as a whole the disproportionate number of attractive men who have voiced this same complaint cannot be ignored.Really? Because I see men talking about what they bring to the table also the time. A typical pitch sounds like this “I’m smart, educated, have a decent paying job, a place of my own, and a car (covers the basics). I have cool hobbies like photography, rock collecting, and hiking (it’s always hiking). And I’m loving, generous, considerate, ambitious, introspective, supportive (insert list of endless good personality qualities).” That’s what I’ve seen (and many men are reluctant to list their goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 07:46 PM |
| 15 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themHow on God’s green Earth did you come to that conclusion? Yes, some of them were doing it for entertainment, but what they were preaching was doing it to harden yourself against rejection (I don’t agree with it, I’m just explaining the theory. Pick up artists were never a big enough movement to destroy flirting and small talk. Culture changed, standards change. People are far more afraid (justified or not) if other people because of online exposure. People are retreating online to have their soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 03:37 PM |
| 2 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themIn the US we have good samaritans laws to protect people who try to help others, like saving their life through CPR. If you save a man jumping off a building like Mr Incredible and he’s upset because he wanted to die, then you should be legally fine. If you touch for your own gratification that doesn’t count. It’s completely different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 03:31 PM |
| 2 | Why would studies show straight men and lesbians are more likely to be fat than gay men and straight women?I think women’s “social proof” depends on men’s status, if we’re going by your logic. Female friends, parents of daughters, and general society all looks down on women who are with a deadbeat, unemployed man. If he makes enough money to support both of you and raise a family, then he’s a catch because women will have less financial stress in that situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 10:09 AM |
| 2 | Loneliness cannot be solved in the long term without romantic relationshipsI definitely agree with that. But having friends (or at least good ones) is increasingly becoming a luxury just like romantic relationships have already become. Most people just have hangout buddies. Friends are people who are emotionally invested in you and it’s becoming harder and harder to find them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 04:27 AM |
| 2 | Loneliness cannot be solved in the long term without romantic relationshipsI think it’s great you have friends like that. However, for the vast majority of people, getting that kind of friendship is more difficult than getting a relationship. It’s a little unrealistic to hedge your bets on finding people who’ll bond with you like that, especially if they’re not in a place in their lives where they are also looking for the exact same thing. Most friends are temporary and take lower priority than romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Loneliness cannot be solved in the long term without romantic relationshipsSure, but it’s certainly not that common anymore. I remember my mother telling me what moving to an mostly-white upper-middle class suburban neighborhood was like. Dead quiet at all hours of the day and all days of the year, except maybe July 4 and Halloween. Occasionally you’d see neighborhood kids playing. Almost all of the social interaction happened at the behest of kids. Kids kept backyard parties alive, the adults just didn’t interact much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 03:12 AM |
| 3 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.I think you’re approaching this problem wrong. I’ve looked up your other comment for more context, and it’s not something that can be solved through laws. It’s not something that can be solved through a simple solution. I question your first premise. Is it certain that every male-female connection that can be made is already being made? Neither of us knows the answer to this, but I’m leaning no. What’s very clear to be is that most women aren’t happy with the state of socialization either. At le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 01:14 AM |
| 8 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.You don’t speak for all women, if you are not willing to help and you are not able that’s fine, no one asked. The is a societal level problem and it needs to be solved by society. Women are half of society. Men cannot hold a man town hall and fix these problems themselves; that’s not how any of this works. Not a single social issue gets solved that way. Those who can’t do anything but complain need to step aside and make room for the best and the brightest members of society to come up with solu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 11:15 PM |
| 1 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:30 PM |
| 6 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.I don’t disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:30 PM |
| 1 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.Sure, I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 05:30 PM |
| 49 | When guys claim their only problem is the lack of sex, we should believe them. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be so obsessive about not getting laid.I’m going to be honest, I’ve never actually seen a guy say this biggest problem was the “lack of sex.” Maybe I can believe some jaded red pill guys will word it that way, but I’ve actually never ever seen a guy say it like that. The far more common version I see is that men complain about is the summation of all the consequences of what a lack of any kind of attention from the opposite sex will bring: A lack of formative early adulthood experiences: Dating is a very important developmental exper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 01:19 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men greatly over-complicate dating.You just have to look at stats like this: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ Dating is much harder for men, particularly young men. It’s not for a lack of trying. Boys in school start dating a year later than girls. Although there are a quite a few highly promiscuous men skewing the average stats, there are more virgin/relationship-less guys than girls. I find that whenever a question like this pops up in this sub the dating opti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 01:39 PM |
| 1 | We need to give mothers a WAY better dealInstead of the insanely complicated and ineffective solution, just fix it the good old fashioned way. Immigration. Particularly high skilled immigration. Immigrant women have no problem having and raising kids despite working and they pay taxes. Perhaps one day America will run out of skilled people wanting to migrate here but that’s not going to happen this century and probably the next as well. Financial incentives don’t work. Russia tried, South Korea is trying. The only thing that will make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 12:44 PM |
| 1 | We need to give mothers a WAY better dealYeah, I’m actually pleasantly surprised that this time this thread doesn’t have many idiots going on about overpopulation. Overpopulation isn’t a concern in developed countries. Edit: scratch that. There are idiots going on about overpopulation What’s going to happen as brith rates decrease is that there are going to be fewer tax payers and way more elderly who need to be paid for. We’re going to see many more immigrants to compensate for that but it still won’t fully plug the hole in the econom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 12:36 PM |
| 10 | Maybe the issue is the extreme bitterness toward womenThat post about traumatized women is unempathetic, but I think that it is a broader mental health related issue. I think that a lot of people have bad experiences with people with trauma/mental health issues and come to resent them for taking their anger out on them and criticizing them unfairly or using them for endless emotional support. Traumatized people can be some of the most bitter people to exist. Trauma breeds trauma and hate breeds hate. I mean I think most women on this sub would run … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 10:50 AM |
| 12 | Maybe the issue is the extreme bitterness toward womenDo you realize the massive logical flaw your argument has? Those definitions are highly subjective and it opens the door to dismiss anything you don’t like. Who gets to decide what’s “shit they actually do”? One person might think that men use women for sex and that’s rampant enough that it qualifies while dismissing the claim that women use men for their monetary gifts/services because that’s rare and basically “never happens” therefore it qualifies as bitterness. If you want to tone police tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 10:30 AM |
| 3 | Do you agree with the belief that women don’t have to change themselves or dedicate significant time and effort to self improvement to have the relationship they want?I’m confused as to why you think men don’t value a woman’s personality. Even the most superficial men still want their partner to be nice enough, self sufficient, and to hold a conversation. If you’re listening to Reddit bros who say stuff like “the only thing a woman is good for is her looks” they likely only want or have experienced causal relationships and have no desire for something more. If they do try it they’ll quickly realize that a hot and dumb partner is a pain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 11:12 AM |
| 4 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestit just calls into question how strong your friendship is or how real it ever was. This is one of the most toxic and manipulative attitudes you can have about friendship. I don’t know how you aren’t seeing what several people on this thread. Just because x happened doesn’t mean you should go back and reevaluate all your previous interactions with the person. If they were a good friend before, then they were a good friend, and now the friendship has ended because of x. x can be anything. Most fri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 01:45 AM |
| 10 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interestDude, comments like that are not helping your case. You had a reasonable argument that I mostly agree with, and I was hoping it would convince some people here. But when you say something dumb like that it erases everything productive this post could’ve achieved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 01:31 AM |
| 3 | Men are showing emotional maturity and skill by leaving friendships with women after expressing unrequited sexual interest“Hole access” Dude this ain’t 18 hole golf. If you want hole access there’s places for that. A social bond isn’t supposed to be permanent and unchanging. If one is not allowed to change the relationship at all that’s not a bond that’s a ball and chain. Real bonds evolve, fluctuate, change, and sometimes fade. An emotionally mature adult recognizes that sometimes a changing relationship is no one’s fault and that it’s natural for people to enter and exit your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 01:27 AM |
| 4 | The reason why we forgive men more for picking crappy womenI have no idea what you think you’re defending here. You seem to simultaneously criticize and defend transactional relationships. Pick a stance. You imply that men who know they are going into a transactional relationship are a problem, and yet you claim we don’t need a solution. Do you want society to have eternal problems? No one suggested that women fake their attraction. Before even reaching a solution we need to define the problem in the first place. So tell me. Are transactional relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 09:39 PM |
| 2 | The reason why we forgive men more for picking crappy womenThe article you posted points out how unreliable that breakdown is in the first place. By breaking it down year by year the sample becomes a lot noisier and less reliable. Only 10-20 guys were polled for each year in the 18-20 year old group for instance. The GSS only works if you take the sample as a whole. And the article acknowledged as much. It’s not meant to be a precise breakdown of how much sex each age of man is having it’s a general survey to highlight trends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 12:00 PM |
| 2 | The reason why we forgive men more for picking crappy womenThis is a fair take. It really depends on how “obvious” it is and whether the person eve attempted to try and vet their partner or listen to the advice of friends and family | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 11:40 AM |
| 16 | The reason why we forgive men more for picking crappy womenThe scenario you posted makes the woman who “settled” sound like a far shittier person than the man. If she knew well and good that she wasn’t going to be attracted to him, then why did she say yes to the proposal? And why did she bring a child into a marriage that’s clearly falling apart? If a man was aware that his partner wasn’t sexually attracted to him, then yeah he’s dumb as a rock. That relationship is doomed. Can we just agree that anyone who willingly gets into a sinking ship deserves t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 11:29 AM |
| 1 | We as men should be thankful that the goddesses known as women participate in this sub with us.I’ve noticed that this sub’s demographics are bizarre. There are a lot of very young single men and a lot of older married women (many of whom are old enough to be the moms of these guys). Of course there are people from other demographics but a weirdly high concentration of those two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 05:43 AM |
| 3 | How redpillers sound sometimesYeah he’s a kid, but I took it to mean he’ll do that stuff when he’s older | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 04:16 AM |
| – | You deserved to be loved and adored...♥️🔥I take it that you mean deserved as in “worthy” not deserved as in “entitled.” Some people can (and some deliberately) misinterpret the word “deserve” so I usually caution against using it. It’s a good message. I see love as a gift that is given to you. It’s not something earned it’s something granted out of the other person’s desire. Some people, despite being worthy, will never receive that gift. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4A: Would you personally be happy and content with never experiencing romance for your entire life?That’s a fair attitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Q4A: Would you personally be happy and content with never experiencing romance for your entire life?Sure, you have a sex drive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:30 AM |
| 0 | How redpillers sound sometimesI assume he goes to clubs to hookup or dates casually or has a FWB | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:19 AM |
| 1 | The whole “wOmEn dOn’T oWe yOu sEx” narrative is bullshit, the vast majority of men do not think this at all. Most men just rightfully expect to be able to get women at or below their level of attractiveness.But you don’t know for sure that it’s not going to happen. You neither know or don’t know what the future holds but if you work hard, do the right things, and self improve, most people would be inclined to believe that it would eventually happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 01:15 AM |
| 4 | Very fucking equalWhat are you trying to say? Men have frequently been the solution to problems created by other men and other women. Most people in heroic, sacrificial positions are men. Women throughout history have ordered genocides, and erased human rights. Is it on the same scale or frequency as men, no, but that’s a moot point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 12:39 AM |
| 6 | Very fucking equalDon’t listen to him, he’s just a troll. I’m very sorry for what happened to you. It’s definitely a valid opinion. Hell, some people choose death over living an “on paper” decent life just because they can’t stand the mental illness. I almost did. But I don’t think you should speak on behalf of most rape victims (i don’t think—and I hope—no one has seriously polled them on this question before). It’s definitely a horrible act but idk if it can be compared to death. It’s probably more comparable t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Men don’t see unattractive women as humanIt probably not that high, but I assume the sample doesn’t include all women, just those in his age cohort in his country. If everyone who identified as a woman from every age group in every place was included it would be way lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 12:05 AM |
| 2 | The whole “wOmEn dOn’T oWe yOu sEx” narrative is bullshit, the vast majority of men do not think this at all. Most men just rightfully expect to be able to get women at or below their level of attractiveness.No, you’re even further away this time. “Owed” is a strong word it’s used to signify obligation and often legal consequences for not obeying it. If your employer doesn’t pay you, you sue them. “Expected” is a MUCH less intense word, it IS completely different from owed. Idk if you’re a native English speaker but we can’t seem to agree on basic definitions of words. There is usually no legal or moral obligation to fulfill most expectations. You can use “expect” in the place of “owed” but it would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 11:48 PM |
| 5 | The whole “wOmEn dOn’T oWe yOu sEx” narrative is bullshit, the vast majority of men do not think this at all. Most men just rightfully expect to be able to get women at or below their level of attractiveness.Idk what you think these words mean but they actually are completely different. Reasonable don’t think they’re owed a job. No one can force another person to employ another, no one can force anyone else to give them money. That would be extortion. However, reasonable people also expect that if they work hard, make themselves employable, someone somewhere will offer them a role that’s a decent match for their skills. They get rightfully frustrated when this happens and want to know how to fix it.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/23 03:07 PM |
| 18 | PPD Man Starter PackI think your analysis of what went wrong is spot on. There are millions of young people (men and women) with very little social life, possible trauma, no motivation, and no hope for the future. They get their worldviews from Reddit, YouTube, and other social media. However, I think the bigger problem is that the rest of society is not just not helping but is actively making the problem worse. If you are concerned about the incel problem then do something about it. Too often people are happy to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/23 06:20 PM |
| 3 | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingThat definitely seems the case, older people just seem done with romance after a while. But a lot of people have “missed out,” they may have only had a few opportunities when they were young and anyone they wanted a relationship with didn’t reciprocate. Now they’ve become older and haven’t had any experience at all. I know quite a few guys in their 30s in this situation. They’re extremely well educated, well spoken, and earn high incomes but they have nerdy interests, not conventionally attracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 01:52 AM |
| 4 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenMen cannot sign away their parental rights, I don’t know why you are claiming that. If a woman wants to have a kid and raise a kid, she can make the man pay child support. If a woman doesn’t want to have a kid and doesn’t want to have an abortion she can decide to legally abandon the baby at birth. Also she has no obligation to inform the father. If the father does know about the child he can go through the expensive legal battle of getting his DNA tested and having the birth certificate modifie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 08:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: I think women on these subreddit are more likely to get men to have negative perception of women than redpill communityThat thread just made me queasy. There’s something off about even the negative responses. A lot of people act like reasonable “let’s listen to both sides/get the full story” centrists when they hear something that goes against their beliefs but then throw themselves in complete self righteous indignation when it comes to something that confirms their beliefs. I’m sure at one point I must’ve done that, I’m sure all of us did, but it was crazy to see an entire subreddit doing this. I just feel lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 06:36 PM |
| 4 | Shaming men for being virgins or not getting women is cruel, mentally damaging and by far way worst than slut shaming is for women, in fact it severly affects women more than slut shaming doesI don’t think anyone claimed that men were being killed for being virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 11:27 PM |
| 10 | Shaming men for being virgins or not getting women is cruel, mentally damaging and by far way worst than slut shaming is for women, in fact it severly affects women more than slut shaming doesYou linked a Fox News article from 2016 talking about Islamic extremism from Muslim immigrants in the west. Come on, even the most daft have to admit there’s a bit of an agenda there. Officially the FBI estimated 27 honor killings the previous year. That’s statistically not a lot. I don’t agree with the competition of “who has it worse” which, from this post, appears to be talking exclusively about social stigma. You can throw in so many variables like mental health, or just health, social mobil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 11:20 PM |
| 0 | Do you think the red pill could actually help lonely men get laid and get in a relationship?You are an awesome person and you’ve described your relationship well as well as what makes you attracted to him. I think that men and women can make connections but modern dating has just made it more superficial and game of pride rather than love and both men and women have bought into this. The amount of times I heard “I wouldn’t have swiped right on my bf on a dating app” is staggering. Dating with sincerity involves being vulnerable. I don’t think humans can take unlimited rejection, and I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 07:13 PM |
| 8 | Study show that straight women are disproportionaly more likely to search porn with violence against women and where they are being raped abused and endure physical violence, than straight men do.Isn’t 50 shades hated by the real BDSM community for not encouraging consent enough and portraying a very strange and coercive type of relationship? That’s what I’ve heard but I never watched or read it. In practice BDSM is safe and very popular with women because it is voluntary and consensual, but the erotic literature genre is far less consistent and wholesome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 06:27 PM |
| 3 | What makes you think the “unlucky” men are average?Income, height, weight, age, race, education, basically anything that can be measured objectively. If a girl thinks that a man should earn $80-$100k by age 25, whereas the average man earns $40k at that age and her requirement is above the 90th percentile. Same with height, most men aren’t above 6ft, same with weight, the average American male is overweight, then if you add in other restrictions the amount of people that fit your criteria is vanishingly small. Some women see the man as a status … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 01:23 PM |
| 2 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to beBut you don’t speak for women outside of your social group. And why wouldn’t men know this truth then? If it was so easily communicable, it seems like it would be obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:34 AM |
| 7 | Dating as a “mid” woman isn’t as easy as most men make it out to beBut how do you know if women who are average have dating struggles if you claim to be an average woman who doesn’t face many struggles. Obviously anyone who tries to date a model is going to struggle. But most average people who aren’t delusional try to date other average people, at least people they perceive as average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 12:53 AM |
| 5 | Ironically, interacting more with girls is what got me redpilled, not Tate or whoeverThe amount of times a jaded guy completely drops the red pill rhetoric and “reformed himself” the moment he finds a girlfriend is hilarious. “I was blind but now I can see.” Then they come back to preach it as if they forgot all the emotions that lead them to that dark place in the first place. In the end all anyone wants is love and a relationship with someone who they’re attracted to and treats them well. If that’s fulfilled there’s no reason to even engage in a space that tries to analyze dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 12:49 PM |
| 6 | Ironically, interacting more with girls is what got me redpilled, not Tate or whoeverJesus Christ dude, you really don’t think highly of women in combat. Yeah, in frontline roles women are noticeably worse on average. But that’s only a small fraction of the overall military. There are tons and tons of support roles, medics, cooks, nurses, systems operators, engineers, mechanics, programmers, basically any role to support the guys at the front line. Those can be extremely valuable and the difference between winning and losing. Women can be extremely useful in combat. Maybe not in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 12:34 PM |
| 3 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.Sure, if you have the money for a Bentley go for it. There are rich people who won’t blink at a $20k repair bill. I’m sure Jean Claude Van Damme enjoyed his Bentley and is the perfect customer for one. You’re still putting things on a good - bad scale. It’s not about being good or bad. I’m saying that your Camry - Bentley analogy doesn’t fit the meme and is indicative of what a non-expert would think. You don’t understand why a Camry is a Camry and a Bentley is a Bentley. No, not everyone would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 05:09 PM |
| 3 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.No, I don’t think you understood it. My point wasn’t Bentley = bad, Camry = good, in fact it has nothing to do with good or bad. If you want a guy that’s shredded, you will need to be okay with him spending lots of time at the gym, if you want a guy with a high performing job you have to be okay with him spending all his weekends doing work rather than spending time with you. If you are similarly sporty or a workaholic then you will be a great match. However if you want to eat chips all day then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.Hey, don’t make car analogies if you don’t want them analyzed. I just think your point is incomplete. A lot of people who think they deserve a Bentley don’t actually deserve one. They probably don’t even deserve the Camry. It takes effort to own one, and the more desirable a car is, generally, the more effort you have to put in into maintaining it. No one just gets to pick between a Bentley and a Camry for no reason. If you want to date a supermodel, get used to dealing with supermodel problems,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.We’re not talking about a brand new Bentley. But there are plenty of Bentleys you can get for the price of a Camry. If you are dumb enough to cross shop them or even think about an “affordable” Bentley, which a shocking amount of people are, you will be in for a world of pain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 03:13 PM |
| 6 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.“Bentley than a Camry” HAHA, this comparison is perfect because it illustrates how uninformed the average person is about what it takes to maintain a Bentley vs a Camry. Yeah no, you are going to be crying WAY harder and way more often in a Bentley because you’re going to get $20k repair bills. Trying to repair them gives mechanics PTSD because every single job needs the engine to be pulled out, everything is inaccessible, everything is expensive. It’s a goddam nightmare. On the flip side even t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 07:06 AM |
| 2 | Women who tell men to "be confident" as a solution to dating issues are unaware that there has been a decades long societal shift to prevent most young men from developing ANY confidence to start with, which stunts the ability to ever develop relationships later.I don’t understand why you’re drawing demarcations between these groups when there is none. It’s not that black and white. Women, modern and old school, do run in the same social circles as all types of men. You might not realize it but they’re there. Society isn’t divided into neat pockets of people with the same beliefs, that’s why we have to get along despite them. And sure, women who don’t want to be controlled shouldn’t go for a man who wants control. What I was talking about is the social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 07:00 PM |
| 0 | Women who tell men to "be confident" as a solution to dating issues are unaware that there has been a decades long societal shift to prevent most young men from developing ANY confidence to start with, which stunts the ability to ever develop relationships later.That is an interesting perspective, but I think there’s more to it than you suggest. I’d be interested in knowing what era you grew up in as some of your points seem to be catered to the 90s. The lack of male “body positivity” isn’t exactly analogous to the way women face body issues. For women, they’ve been told that their body is equal to their self worth. That’s a toxic message against women. Men’s approval makes up a smaller percentage of women’s self esteem than the other way around. For me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:30 PM |
| 3 | The endless self-improovement treadmill, and the futility of it allNo one says the word maiden in real life. Even the most terminally online redditors know how to code switch in public. Redditors look like normal human beings, they aren’t constantly wearing fedoras and saying m’lady out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 11:41 AM |
| 18 | The "male housework list" or "honey do list" (the second shift) | Sources from Dr. Warren FarrellYou should definitely get on his case. If he doesn’t do anything, even “male” chores then that isn’t right. Also, I think a caveat is that this list really depends on your specific home dynamic and housing situation. If you live in an apartment there’s not yard work for instance, if you live with a pet that brings different chores. But the point is that couples should look at all the work that goes on in the households. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/23 05:07 PM |
| – | People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average manI agree, many options is different from good options. But it’s still a better leveraged position than what men have. I don’t know about slut shaming, don’t really see it in real life. If you ask a terminally online redditor or the old man sitting on his porch, or a church pastor, or the asshole in high school, you’re going to get the expected response. But in the real world who cares? You hook up with a random guy, tell your close girl besties about it, who else needs to know or care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 04:53 PM |
| – | People who say "Sex isn't a need" don't know how it is to be the average manWhy do you say that women aren’t as free to enjoy it? Most women have an easier time getting sex and arguably relationships than men. Most women don’t really want casual sex though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 04:38 PM |
| 8 | Ladies what is your opinion of husbands, boyfriends, brothers, dads, friends or any of the guys in your life worried about you visiting a male gynecologist?I’ve heard that a few of them go into this out of personal motivation because of reproductive issues in their family (at least a higher proportion of male gynos seem to have this reason than their counterparts). When they were little someone in their family had trouble getting pregnant or giving birth, or even died during childbirth, lost their baby, had their baby with birth defects, didn’t get adequate pre or post natal care, went through depression, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 09:41 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?There are definitely a lot of reasons that broken men say those things. I think a large portion of that comes from bitterness. It’s the reason why you see a significant portion of guys renounce the red pill and other associated concepts the moment a girl they like is genuinely nice to them, puts in effort, and he ends up in a relationships. It breaks every preconceived notion they have about women. The reason you get so many bitter guys is that there’s a lot of guys who aren’t able to get anythi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:43 AM |
| – | Why married women are you on this sub?Yeah, I totally agree with you there. It is different from generalizations. If you have someone acting in bad faith then it’s absolutely impossible to have any kind of discussion with them. But truthfully, I don’t really have a solution for that just yet. These people can’t be engaged with, they’re overly hostile and aggressive, and everything is a fight. Don’t really know what to do other than to block and move on though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 07:33 AM |
| – | Why married women are you on this sub?I find that perspective curious, and I disagree with it. What makes you think that men aren’t constantly generalized into negative stereotypes here? In my opinion the red pill is just far more explicit about this kind of rhetoric, but it’s by no means unique to them. The implied thinking “many people of x gender have a fundamentally incorrect/broken/amoral/stupid way of thinking, therefore causing many of the dating and gender relations issues,” is prevalent here. Even though the wording might b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 04:12 AM |
| 8 | More debates on Dutch FacebookThat’s such a good quote. It’s hard to change, especially for older people. You build an identity as a young adult based on your beliefs and values. Those are hard to change | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/23 11:15 AM |
| – | What are some things you cant understand about the opposite gender?I was hoping this thread would be interesting, but it seems like, rather than genuinely engaging, you’re just using this thread to confirm your existing beliefs. You didn’t attempt to discuss or argue against or engage with anything the above commenter said, you just dismissed everything. His ideas may or may not have been valid, but you are doing the discussion a disservice by replying like that. That’s not the recipe for productive conversation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 09:04 AM |
| 3 | The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men.Sure, if those same people are insulting others then their complaints ring hollow. Too many people in politics are hypocritical. That doesn’t stop the behavior from being morally repugnant and distasteful, especially to an outsider. If the best argument you have is that “the other side does it too” then your principles are weak and pitiful. JP’s Twitter is horrendous, but he’s far from the only person throwing out insults that conflict with his own morals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 04:35 AM |
| 2 | The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men.Dude, if you don’t know anything about him, don’t speak about him. It’s amazing the level of unmerited confidence you had to post an argument that you don’t even know applies to this situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 10:46 PM |
| 6 | The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men.Nailed it. Progressives will make fun of people based on comments that they think their target will be offended by/hurt most by, even when those comments contradict all of their narratives. Having a small dick (body shaming), being a man-child crybaby (toxic masculinity). They don’t realize that this action hurts the very thing they’re supposed to stand against. Many don’t even realize it, others rationalize it. And it’s really pathetic how some of them double down on their need to make offensiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 10:40 PM |
| 8 | How many of you were arrested after approaching a woman?I see what you’re trying to say, but I disagree with it. These pressures will exist whether anybody talks about them or not, and they will continue to grow. Will exposing them in an honest fashion put the spotlight on this thinking? Sure. But we will never get anywhere if they’re never discussed. The pre-requisite to making any social change is having uncomfortable conversations. It can blind side social moderates who feel like a radical ideology is sprouting from nowhere and focusing in on it w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 12:25 AM |
| 11 | How many of you were arrested after approaching a woman?The “no one with a brain” comment was in reference to getting arrested for approaching a woman. That’s outlandish. However the actual fears and social conditioning men are beholden to is more complex than this. Certainly more complex than the fear mongering of various pill communities. People tend to think of men’s confidence issues as individual failures and women’s as societal failures. However men’s confidence issues are in fact due to society. Both sides of the pill thinks that men are above… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:14 PM |
| 5 | CMV: "Approaching women" is dumb and a waste of time.I think people are constantly getting confused because they have different root definitions of the word “approach.” So many people think approach means strictly cold approach. Man walks up to a woman in a courtroom. “Hey baby, you, me, dinner. Kachow!” The failure rate of that kind of approach is 102% of the time with a margin of error of 2%. It’s obviously not effective. An approach is the first semi-transparent sign of romantic interest delivered to the woman/man. It doesn’t matter if you know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 04:32 PM |
| 117 | How many of you were arrested after approaching a woman?I’m actually surprised anyone is asking this, it’s pretty outlandish. No one with a brain thinks things are this extreme, no matter what pill they’re on. The reasons men are afraid to approach women are complex and psychological. Bear with me as I explain. This worldview isn’t mine but it’s what I’ve gathered: The problem isn’t anything overt. It’s that throughout their lives good boys and men are socially conditioned to not approach women. It’s because guys really really don’t want to make a wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 11:20 AM |
| 8 | "Madonna/Whore" and "Beta/Chad" are the same phenomenon.I don’t think it’s quite the same but I think this is the thought process: Madonna/beta — A sweet, homely person who makes you feel comfortable and taken care of. However they don’t excite you. Attractive character, unattractive vibe Whore/Chad — An exciting vibrant personality who pulls you into experiences that the Madonna/beta wouldn’t agree to do or wouldn’t propose, but ones that thrill you. Attractive vibe, unattractive character Both these people have their strengths but they don’t descri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 01:46 AM |
| 14 | CMV: Missing out on teen love as a male can be hugely detrimental in later years while courting a woman.I think “dated” is on the extreme end. “Went on dates with 30 different men” is far more common, but the norm seems to be having had 1-7 long term relationships by 25, with most women—at least the ones I’ve seen and was friends with—falling on the 1-2 side of that. A few women have 0. There’s a group of very promiscuous women out there, but most women aren’t like that. Even at 25 the majority of women haven’t been romantically involved with more than 5 guys at most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 11:19 PM |
| 22 | CMV: Missing out on teen love as a male can be hugely detrimental in later years while courting a woman.What would you say to someone who’s very good at talking to women and making female friends but can’t flirt or fails to make the connection romantic. I know a significant portion of guys like this, you’d never think they were struggling. They treat women as people first, but they can’t make women swoon, they can’t generate the “spark.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Q4everyone: Is your type into you?Your flair sounds so familiar but I can’t pin down where that pop culture reference came from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 03:54 PM |
| 1 | Why is most dating advice "for men"?Good stats. I don’t know what happened in late ‘19 and early prepandemic 2020 to instigate a massive rise in “how to get a boyfriend” searches. But it seems otherwise very even though slightly in favor of men recently | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 06:43 AM |
| 22 | If women don't go for the same top % of men, how did "Are We Dating the Same Guy" become a national thing?I mean I agree that the majority of guys will eventually find a relationship, but your experience sounds like it has a bit of a sampling bias. Of course men that are out and about, that you run into in social gatherings, socialize with at work, or just seem to be outside a lot are going to be far more successful in socializing with women than the guys that spend all their time online and that you rarely ever meet. Whereas if you poll guys online on what their dating life is like you’re more like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 06:34 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Fresh and Fit don't teach men to succeed.It’s one stupid podcast and they fell from grace years ago. There have already been a number of posts about them on this sub. They’re just grifters who don’t believe anything they say. You can find those types of people on every part of the political spectrum. However I think that instead of highlighting the bad parts of each movement we can highlight those who give good and sincere advice. Aba and Preach are a channel that’s more moderate that routinely calls out both women and red pill dudes (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Where would you ideally like/be open to find your partner (school, work, club, bars, apps, etc). Can you rank/score them in order of preference?Yeah, I’m really interested in app development. To make a basic usable dating app it really only takes 2-3 people and a year to do it. If you ignore the interface, a simple matchmaking service would probably just take a college kid a few weekends to complete. One kid did that in my college during the lockdowns, simply asking users to input their personality data and preferences into a Google Form and then batch processing the data to match two people together. You could meet only one person at a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Where would you ideally like/be open to find your partner (school, work, club, bars, apps, etc). Can you rank/score them in order of preference?Online dating should have its place and in theory it would suit you quite well. It’s just that the current app design and their associated revenue model is broken so apps are incentivized to keep you lonely. We could use some actual innovation in the app space in that regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Where would you ideally like/be open to find your partner (school, work, club, bars, apps, etc). Can you rank/score them in order of preference?This is a good insight. It’s very difficult to make a decision on someone if they make the interaction romantic immediately. IMO a good amount of talking and rapport is needed before, or an “I want to hang out/get to know you more” meetup rather than a strictly romantic date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 02:06 PM |
| 0 | It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits.I guess we have different perceptions on the role of technology in the future. Whatever. But I’ll say that I’ve studied basic AI and how AI works and how the population thinks it’s going to work are two completely different things. Plus this is what I’ve seen the majority of AI engineers to agree on. AI is not smart enough to take over most jobs without human backup. Standard machine learning AI doesn’t actually do any thinking at all, it’s just a hyper accurate guesser. Full self driving cars a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 07:38 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Where would you ideally like/be open to find your partner (school, work, club, bars, apps, etc). Can you rank/score them in order of preference?Thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 01:07 AM |
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