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InsideDarth_Bicycle/r/MGTOW20/09/17 09:57 AM
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Rofl! XD
/r/MGTOW20/12/19 02:05 PM
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I guess you could say I'm pro feminism, but anti women. Yeah, it's an unpopular opinion Hehehe! Kinda like Bill Hicks was "for the war but against the troops?"
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 04:06 AM
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Yeah. It seems history works in cycles. It's not linear at all. Honked times indeed.
/r/MGTOW14/12/19 03:35 PM
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I suppose one problem with ever increasing debt is intrest rates. If the debt goes high enough then all the taxes government collects would go to paying down the interest. So there would be no more money for roads, hospitals, schools and so on. You'd just tax people and get nothing out of it. You can already see this playing out in Japan and Europe. My guess is that that is one reason why there are negative real intrest rates in Europe; We are already technically bankrupt. That's a good point. I…
/r/MGTOW14/12/19 05:41 AM
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I guess that as our country kept getting more wealthy after the world wars people also started valuing safety and comfort over anything else. So this desire finally culminated in all female government. There is this motherly desire among some people to ”heal the world and open the country to all people.” I think that Oswald Spengler and Nietzsche pointed out that something like this was probably going to happen as a civilization declines. It becomes feminine in spirit and action.
/r/MGTOW14/12/19 05:19 AM
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We weren't really vikings. The Swedes and Norwegians were. I don't know if that makes it worse or better though, heh. But we did put up a great fight against the soviets. Both my grandfathers took part in it the war. These days we just let invaders in and give them welfare. That's how far we have "progressed."
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 06:27 AM
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Well I hope you are right.
/r/MGTOW12/12/19 03:53 PM
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I am a Finnish workingclass man (MGTOW ghots) and yeah, this is going to be a disaster. SDP as a party is horrible. I resent it. Finland has massive structural problems underneath the glossy exterior. Like most European nations we are getting poorer and can't really afford all these new government programs. We can't even afford to keep our infrastructure going the way it was. Healthcare system is crumbling. Laborforce participation rate is low, aging population, growing debt...etc etc... So now …
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 09:40 AM
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I am not opposed to nuclear, but there's a problem with it too: You can't run the trucks and planes with electricity. The batteries would be too big, so there wouldn't be enough room for cargo. There's all these problems with other sources of energy and we don't really have a viable solution right now.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 09:23 AM
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Thanks. Chaotic times ahead, for sure.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 09:21 AM
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I live in Finland. We have huge problems here and people seem to be in denial about reality. This new government reflects that. There is lots of hopium and optimisim but no real concrete plans. For example: It is great in theory that we want to reduce our carbon footprint. In reality that means that our standard of living will go down at least 50%. (That's being optimistic.) There is no way to run Finland on solar and wind alone. It is physically impossible. We'd have to go back 300 years and ou…
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 12:24 PM
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They want a carbon free country and more welfare. This will turn out to be impossible. You can't have both. You can't have less economic growth and more welfare. This is a serious predicament and our progressive politicians and people live in unreality these days. If they try to enact these policies then our country is headed towards more political chaos. If it wasn't so tragic it would be funny. It's late in the game and the country is basically turning into a matriarchy that can no longer see …
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 04:13 AM
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My mother has alzheimer. I am taking care of her affairs. Due to her illness she lives in a nursing home these days. She is not long for this world. In a way a part of her has already died and will never come back. She used to argue and fight with my father a lot. I used to argue with her a lot too and she made me realize harsh truths about this life and how women view us men. My father was basically a utility to her, a walking ATM. When he lost his job back in the day, whatever she might have f…
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 06:14 PM
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Yeah, I quit visiting r/collapse for the same reason; The SJW infection has spread there as well. I wonder if the SJW are now secretly realizing that their intersectional paradise isn't coming to save us after all and now they are looking for someone to blame. In a lot of ways the whole SJW cult is like an offshoot of the techno-industrial narcisissm. They seem to be loosing their minds.You can't run an SJW intersectional paradise without fossil fuels either. So that must be a dissapointment.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 08:07 AM
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People here made the mistake of assuming that the good times would last forever. People don't realize that this was just an unusual period in history when we had access to cheap energy and resources. This allowed us to build complex and rich societies, but we never had any idea how to maintain them long term. There never really was a plan. Some people are now beginning to realize that and panick is starting to set in. This is something that has happened many times before in history. Nation becom…
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 10:05 AM
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In the immediate future there isn't all that much to worry about. It is the long term structural problems that we need to worry about. Those problems are beginning to rear their ugly heads. So if you are under 50 years of age you will not get a pension. If you are over 70 then you will notice how poorly the system takes care of you. So the elderly already see everyday problems and poverty. The healthcare system is slowly imploding as well. There will not be enough money for education and infrast…
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 12:05 PM
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Yeah the IQ's are dropping here as is the birth rate. Right now our birth rate is lower than it was during the great famine. That's how devastating the current social order has become. I'm reminded of what George Carlin said; That the elites want a population just smart enough to work, but too stupid to ask real questions. We are getting there day by day. By now we should be asking difficult questions here, but instead of that there is this wishfull thinking (among some people) that we could som…
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 07:18 AM
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Yeah, I live in Finland and we have major structural problems here. So what politicians do here (like they do everywhere), is that they keep kicking the can forward hoping that the whole thing doesn't crash on their watch. Finland simply can not afford more government spending for much longer. Everyone knows that. (Well except for the women ofcourse.) We simply do not have enough tax payers. Our labourforce participation rates are bad and we have an aging population. Our health care system is al…
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 10:45 PM
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They drive the consumer economy. So corporations love them. That's why we have all this crazy virtue signaling going on as well. But the fact that we have "consumer economies" should be a big concern. If you constantly rely on people consuming shit that they don't need with money that they don't have... Well.. How long can it go on?
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 02:48 PM
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Good for you. Yeah the Finnish ”ladies” hit the wall something fierce by the time they reach 30. I'm over 40 as well. Did you bring your wife back to Finland though? This country is basically a matriarchy by now in my humble opinnion.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/19 08:47 AM
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One of the reasons I cancelled my Netflix account was because of the lack of German and French subtitles. Funnily enough, they did have Arabic. I live in northern Europe so this was kinda amusing and the last straw. The straw that broke the camels back, if you will. Oh, so progressive.
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 07:37 AM
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As someone who lives in Europe I have to say no, we can't be saved. We are bankrupt not only financially, but spiritually and morally too. Our technocrats can't keep our systems going, we can't guarantee decent lives for our children, we have trouble taking care of our elderly. We have successfully destroyed our past and our future in the name of progress. We can't solve any of our problems in any kind of sustainable manner. Yet at the same time we talk about universal basic income as a real pos…
/r/MGTOW06/03/19 07:19 PM
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Xbox one x ;)
/r/MGTOW05/03/19 03:46 PM
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Albert Camus; The Stranger Albert Camus; The Fall Jean-Paul Sartre; Nausea Kierkegaard; Diary of the seducer Waltari; Sinuhe The Egyptian Nietzsche; Ecce Homo, Beyond Good and Evil, Gay Science
/r/MGTOW02/01/19 01:49 PM
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It was on last Tuesday. I missed it too.
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 01:18 PM
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We need more bureaucracy to deal with the increase of bureaucracy.
/r/MGTOW19/11/18 11:14 AM
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PC gaming master race. May our frame rates be high and temperatures low. ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrkRliHHjFk
/r/MGTOW17/11/18 08:13 AM
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It's a great movie!
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 10:49 PM
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Yeah. I wonder if they also do it to sort of provoke their male feminist allies to do more. Make them grovel more and cause them to whip themselves into self hatred even more. I think somewhere along the line feminism turned into a weird religion with deities and original sins.
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 01:14 PM
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We live in places not worth caring about. What the neo-liberal, state feminist, corporate, consumer culture did, was to make our countries not worth caring about. Once you do that, then the natural response is to go your own way. Only care about yourself, because the whole is not worth it anymore. Oh and we are running out of all the essential resources needed to keep this absurd circus going. So that's a nice added bonus. It's a shit show and the money to run the shit show is gone.
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 01:53 PM
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There are already more migrants in Europe than what the official statistics say. I am sure of it. In my town of 100 000 people there are plenty of muslim migrants here. Every time I visit my local bank or shop during the day time, there are lot's of unemployed migrant men about. All kinds of street hustlers and petty criminals. What the liberal middle class European doesn't know, is that they are being taken advantage of on a huge scale. They just don't realize how many unemployed migrants there…
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 09:12 AM
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What a world. I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. It's like some how the Onion has become a reliable news source today.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 09:22 AM
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One day at a time. Don't make this giant declaration: ”I will become a monk!” There's no reason to make such boasts. Just go one day without sex. Go to library, or to a hockey game instead. Or what ever you fancy. If it was a good day, then repeat it the next day. Play a good video game. Read an interesting book. What ever floats your boat. One day at a time.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 04:47 PM
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Descartes was looking for truth beyond all doubt. Modern people are looking for doubt beyond all truths. Even objective reality no longer matters. 2 + 2 can be what ever I feel like.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 04:44 PM
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I read the book (Decline of the West) about 3 years a go. It was a very chilling read. Many times the hairs on the back of my neck stood up as a lot of what was going on in the world started to make sense. The only problem was that none of it was good. ​ The leftist causes that have dominated the last century in the press and in politics, such as equalism, feminism, and Socialism, to Spengler, were only tools used to assist the moneyed powers to be more effective. These monetary powers permeate …
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 09:09 PM
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I'm in my 40's and I can only talk about what was going on in my neck of the woods in the late 90's. Back then we already had much of what is going on today ( The CC, the chads and the betas, the starter husbands...and so on...) . The difference was, that a lot of it was hidden in various ways and a lot of the guys didn't pay attention to what the girls as a collective were doing. . The better looking girls cheated and slept around a lot. You could see the damage that it was doing to them as wel…
/r/MGTOW28/10/18 04:36 PM
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Projection is just one of the weapons of Feminist Inquisition.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 02:20 PM
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Yeah, Finland is a really weird place to live in these days. I'm middle aged and I can scarely believe how fast the feminst movement has corroded the fabric of the society. I mean on the surface, who cares about some ”polyamorous” wife? But then...just look at those pictures. This is how people live here today. This is who they are as people. That's what the decline of the society looks like. Stupid duckfaces and selfies. I suppose it's nice to have some documentation for the future historians t…
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 09:05 PM
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This is an excellent post. Well said indeed!
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 09:16 AM
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Biggest consumers on the planet are women. This is not by accident. Just look at how much media caters to women and how women even view relationships as part of the consumer culture. (They have lists of demands for men. Much like actual shopping lists of yesteryear. They approach relationships the same way they approach buying a new car) So naturally relationships with women in consumer societies are incredibly expensive. The system needs men to finance this insane consumerism that women do. Jus…
/r/MGTOW11/07/18 08:10 AM
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Yeah. Now the women don't even have to travel for sex vacations, because they brought the sex vacation home. So to speak.
/r/MGTOW04/07/18 11:02 PM
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No. In my counry the women are having sex with the migrants. The migrant men are like exotic sex toys for women. By the time our governments really go broke and can't afford it, they will likely just blame the European men for being lazy or not tolerant enough. It will be our fault for not keeping the systems going. Things will just keep getting crazier. Some of the women here already can't figure out why there isn't enough money for social services. They will never get it, but they might get an…
/r/MGTOW04/07/18 09:48 PM
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Yup. Older guy here too. You are right, unfortunately. Young MGTOW men should prepare for this outcome mentally.
/r/MGTOW02/07/18 01:10 PM
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I'd like to hear more of those stories very much. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW28/06/18 10:52 AM
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That..was very incoherent to say the least: Men having expectations towards women and women not being able to meet those expectations is abusive? Or our reactions towards emotions based on that reality are abusive? Or we wish to abuse emotional women who don't meet said expecations? Oh, it is much simpler than that. I have no expectations for women anymore. So, as far as I am concerned, women are 100% free of ”patriarchy” now. There are no more expectations. No role for you to play to play, no h…
/r/MGTOW25/06/18 09:32 PM
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We wrote romance for ourselves. So we could pretend for a moment that we weren't disposable. That ”love was meant to be”..And all that. It was a sweet little lie that got out of hand. A day dream that we took too far. We men love our illusions too. That's why the women sometimes put on a good show for us. They know by instinct that we men love our illusions. I think women of yester year knew this very well. I wonder if that's part of the reason why some men hate feminism so vehemently, because n…
/r/MGTOW10/06/18 10:37 PM
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Yeah, they do that here in Finland too. There was an article about it on an online paper. According to that article the women were also paying underaged boys for sex.
/r/MGTOW05/06/18 06:59 AM
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Well if the man is a western middle class man, then he most likely is richer than most people on the planet. So he does work hard and he is rich. He just isn't part of the 0,0000001% of the earth's population. The woman who he is married to, who doesn't even do housework, is part of the new leisure class. This same leisure class person tries to convince herself that she is oppressed to justify her useless existence.
/r/MGTOW19/05/18 11:49 AM
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Some of the western philosophers that are phenomenologists seem to imply that as well. For Sartre the ego, or the I was actually the object of consciousness and not the subject. So it is not the "I" that thinks, but rather the consciousness thinks of the "I".
/r/MGTOW16/04/18 10:59 AM
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Get woke, go broke? :D
/r/MGTOW16/04/18 10:42 AM
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Even though I am a lowly console peasant, but damn that was glorious! Anyway, carry on.
/r/MGTOW16/04/18 07:30 AM
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I had to google nordic preservationists. Never heard the term before. So they are like some sort of white nationalists? Yeah, well look, these are unusual times and people are looking for answers in unusual places. It's not pretty. I think you may be miss interprating why white nordic Europeans are frustrated: There are a lot of people who live in northern europe that realize that our situation is not sustainable. Even the people who can't articulate it, can feel it in their gut. It has nothing …
/r/MGTOW15/04/18 10:48 PM
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I have to comment briefly on your Point number 4. As a white nordic man the last thing I want to do is impose some kind of dictatorship on other men. Having said that, I have no desire to go work hard and provide resources for some other guys I know nothing about and who may not even share my values. I have to be honest with myself about that as well. Our governments (and women by proxy) want us to become plowhorses for people we know nothing about. I am personally trying to weasel my way out of…
/r/MGTOW14/04/18 07:25 PM
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Finland as well. We are having an epic decline in birthrates here. :D Even the government is panicking. ...and blaming men ofcourse. Oh well, we will go extinct even faster than the Japanese.
/r/MGTOW12/04/18 11:43 AM
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..and those are the good parts.
/r/MGTOW13/03/18 09:21 AM
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Yeah, I guess it's the former middle class already.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 08:39 AM
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But it's still not enough (for the governments. The debts are too big) and a lot of them have learned how to hide assets as well. Not that I blame them.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 08:37 AM
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Governments are broke. They can't tax the poor, well because they are poor. They wont tax the rich, since the rich own the governments and the banks...So who is left? The middle class. They are going to get fleeced before it's all said and done. Governments will end up punishing the people who work the hardest. Funny how that goes.
/r/MGTOW11/03/18 08:56 PM
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According to the anthropologist Jospeh Tainter, collapse is basically rapid loss of complexity. Also collapses are known to happen perioidically throuhgout history. Collapses even happen today. Think of Greece. There is nothing new in that sense. And yes we have a global civilization that is highly complex and requires lot's of resources and work to maintain. I think it is arrogant to assume that our civilization isn't vulernable to collapse. Also collapses take a lot of time too. Very rarely do…
/r/MGTOW11/03/18 07:53 AM
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Lo Wang
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 05:59 PM
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Yeah, there's really nothing that individuals can do. I don't like it much either, but trying to stop this would be like trying to turn an aircraft carrier around in a bathtub. It ain't happening.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 08:48 PM
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Our government just doesn't have the resources to run hospitals the way it used to. So there are more patients and less doctors. And there is a fairly large bureaucracy involved as well, that we can't afford either.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 08:45 PM
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The standard of living has either stagnated or even decreased for a large portion of the population and things are getting much worse. Yes, quite so. These days in my country it can take up to 5 hours to visit a doctor. It used to take less than an hour. It's things like that, that makes it clear that we are indeed collapsing.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 05:35 PM
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I'm really sorry to hear this. My own mother (who definetly is an AWALT) was recently diagnosed with Alzheimer too, and I can also already see the difficult road ahead. My heart goes out to both of you.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 05:32 PM
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Well, the good thing is that in this scenario the society doesn't get flushed down the toilet over night. This process could easily last over 100 years. Humanity has lived through hard times before, so it is doable. Besides, there is lot's of good things to enjoy and life can still be meaningful. It's just that our society itself is kind of doomed. I guess on an individual level the key is to not get attached to this current western society, since it is going down anyway.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 02:49 PM
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I think we are in the middle of a collapse right now. It's a catabolic collapse. There will be periodic crisis and then periods of stabilization, followed by more crisis. Such as: Debt crisis → bailouts, Greek crisis → emergency measures, refugee crisis → ”new normal”.... and so on.. With each crisis the society goes down one step. Each time we enter a new normal. Like today in Europe we have massive unemployment rates, but that's now the ”new normal”. By the end of the process very few people e…
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 02:22 PM
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Agreed. Future is female after all. I'm sure Jar Jar Abrams would agree.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 01:46 PM
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There is another side to all of this that a lot of guys seem to miss at the beginning. Namely you are now free to find your own meaning and purpose in life. It used to be that we were forced into being providers and protectors for women and society. For the first time in history (at least on this scale) we are free to find and discover our own purpose. And this purpose doesn't even have to be anything majestic. Finding your own purpose wont come easily, but nothing worthwhile is ever easy. Life …
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 12:59 PM
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on the positive side, there is a high chance of accidental Battle Royale if these nice and accomodating people cross eachother. may the meanest witch win! Hahaah! Now I wanna see it! "Finnish feminist Battle Royale! Whose privilege gets violated first? Reeeee!"
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 06:15 PM
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Agreed. It's a great movie.
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 02:57 PM
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Oh noes! The upper-middle class Finnish white women are so opressed they need their own island to cope with it. What horrible beings we Finnish men are! When will this fucking oppression end? Surely our women have had enough of it! P.S. I think we should house some refugees in this Island as well. 2 oppressed groups could live in safety and harmony away from us horrible Finnish oppressive men! I mean we are running out of places to house these refugees in, and we can't kick all our students and …
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 12:23 PM
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The left wing has gotten corrupted, but in a different way that right wing has. Left wing used to mean working class. The working class got taken out of the left wing and now it's just a place for academics, feminists and alt-lifestyle freakazoids (Thanks Diversity&Comix). Left wingers today are about oppression, emotion, social justice and feminism. That's why they don't give a shit about men, because men are usually part of the working class that the left has abandoned. So thats why they mock …
/r/MGTOW10/02/18 09:14 AM
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I'm over 40 and I can see how people take advantage of young mens idealism every day. But it's not just the politicians and women. It's also institutions that prey on young mens idealism. It's also university professors too who fill young mens heads with agendas and ideas that are unworkable in real life (or require so much work and sacrifices that we would be better of not following these agendas). I sometimes try to make young men question their university professors and idealism they espouse,…
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 03:26 PM
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Yes, indeed. Leo's character was basically a chad she used just to relieve herself of boredom. It was never going to be anything more.
/r/MGTOW08/02/18 01:08 PM
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They are in the business of selling romance to the masses.
/r/MGTOW08/02/18 12:16 PM
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Colttain's interpretation has lot of truth to it as well, I think.
/r/MGTOW08/02/18 12:16 PM
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It was Slavoj Zizek's point as well: Imagine if Leo had survived; A working class man with an upperclass woman? Imagine what their life would have been like? Soooo romantic? Yeah, right. Dude comes home from work and get's nagged to death for not living up to her standards.... So Hollywood had to kill him in order to save the romance. That's why Leo's character had to die. Even Hollywood understands hypergamy, they just pretend not to see it.
/r/MGTOW08/02/18 07:39 AM
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Our country is very gynocentric. It's like living inside of a passive-aggressive vagina.
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 10:06 PM
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One of the major problem in Europe is that asking common sense questions is considered fascism: (Where are we going to get money for the migrants/refugees? Who is going to pay? Where are we going to get housing for them? Jobs for them? How are we going to integrate them, when we can't even integrate our own young men? Etc etc..) Since we can't ask common sense questions, nobody has presented a workable plan. The left and the right just keeps playing politics with the issue, meanwhile the EU itse…
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 06:10 PM
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I knew it! Kate Upton is inverse raping me! How dare she not date a middle aged man from a Nordic country she has never heard of?!
/r/MGTOW29/01/18 05:39 PM
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It's going to get interesting as the feminist infighting intensifies. Grab a cold one from the fridge and enjoy the show.
/r/MGTOW22/01/18 02:19 PM
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It's one of the big problems, yes. World population has grown 7 times larger during the past 200 years. (On average). That's a massive population boom. If it was any other species we would all be alarmed. But because we are talking about humans, we seem to think that this is not a problem. In my country the population has increased from 250 000 to 5,5 million in 250 years. That's a massive population boom and the politicians want to increase the population even more with immigration. This is a d…
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 11:31 AM
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It's part of a larger shift in society. Everyone it seems, is trying to get men to work harder for less. When there is no carrot, the stick must come out. Even the left is doing that now to the working class men. They used to be on the side of the blue collar workers, but now they just shame them all the time. Best just to ignore these people and focus on your own life.
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 11:07 AM
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”Russia won”. Lol. I live next door to Russia, and when they decide to ”influence” your country's political system, you'd know. Trust me. Tanks on the streets would be kinda hard to miss. Jesus. What happened to liberals?
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 09:04 AM
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Because on the other side of the equation is a void: ”What am I and what is my purpose in life, if I am not looking for external validation?” These people are convinced that the meaning of life can be found inside woman's vagina. If you took that away from them, then what would they do? I don't mean to sound so demeaning, but humans can ascribe purpose and meaning to silly things. It's like how Sartre puts it; We are condemned to be free and cursed to find our meaning in life. Some people find t…
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 10:11 AM
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Xbox X and Switch I like RPG's the most
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 07:07 PM
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I don't think we have the resources anymore to do much in terms of space travel. If we halted all the car production and personal driving around the world, stopped all the welfare (public and corporate.. Although we might actually need more corporate welfare) then we might have resources for space travel. But then halting car production would probably collapse economies and anger people. I think we are in the same predicament as ancient Rome was; Just enough money to keep the bread and circuses …
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 11:42 AM
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Yeah, and we could already be in overshoot mode. I wonder what the real carrying capacity of earth really is without fossil fuels. I am pretty certain that Nordic countries for example can't maintain this type of lifestyle without access to cheap resources. Mass migration to places like Sweden is batshit crazy from resource perspective alone.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 09:14 AM
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Start by killing off your social media accounts. A lot of people live fake lives there. Besides most of the time you only see a glimpse of other people's lives. You see the side that they wish to present to the world. Often this side is very fake. Most people in the West live lives of quiet desperation anyway. Lost in useless materialism, chasing that elusive carrot.... Most of the time though, a hard life is a good life. Or at least, the most interesting.
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 08:50 AM
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I Like that my life has a pacing and a rhythym of my own choosing. I like that a 41 year old common man like me, can devote time to studying philosophy and history. I like that I get to cook for myself and experiment with new recipes. I like that I don't have to own a car. I like that I can own 3 gaming devices; Pc, Xbox one x and Nintendo Switch I like that I can have my own mini library with my favorite classic literature and philosophy books. I like that I can live a minimalist lifestyle and …
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 09:48 AM
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Uuh la la ,Somebody is going to get laid in college.
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 12:27 AM
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How many of these liberals have actually stopped driving cars? I'm tired of their endless virtue signaling too. I mean they never put their money where their mouths are. Time to walk the walk too.
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 11:41 AM
4

I suppose one feels sorry for him, since he never really had a chance. Lambs to slaughter type of thing.
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 12:00 AM
24

Jesus. On the one hand I do feel bad for Boogie. He seems like a really nice man. I wish him all the best. On the other hand, who didn't see this coming? Reality is like a bad joke by now that just keeps repeating. Stuck in a loop.
/r/MGTOW15/12/17 03:52 PM
2

Thanks. I gotta read that book now.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 03:30 PM
3

Yeah, this is a great comment. I think Schopenhauer essentially said the same thing. Individuals happiness doesn't really factor in the survival of species. Quite the opposite actually. Often our instincts drive us of the cliff.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 09:48 AM
13

Wow. They are going after the socialist Bernie? They are going to run out of allies soon.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 01:55 PM
1

Life in Finland is like being a midget at a urinal these days; You have to be on your toes all the time. Ba dum tish! So no wonder MGTOW is growing here. A lot of men are absolutely fed up with how things are going; Politically, economically, socially....etc etc... It's all going off the rails.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 10:50 AM
1

You think their eating is bad? What comes out of their mouths is even worse.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 10:47 AM
3

Yeah. I'm the same way. I'm pretty much set in my ways. I have no desire to complicate my life .
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 02:47 PM
6

Some of them are hitting on older men now. It's like they burned through the men in their own generation, and they think men in my generation would be more willing to deal with them. ”This 40 year old guy will deal with my shit and provide me with a family.” -Right.
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 10:30 AM
2

I'ts funny how scared Marvel is/was of this guy who makes youtube videos, that they tried to silence him. They even hatched a hairbrained plan to try and aggravate his non existing PTSD. ”Lets' agitate a war veteran and then mock him!” Nice going there Marvel. Oh how the mighty have fallen!
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 06:33 PM
4

Still with the lists I see. Well good luck with that, fish.
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 11:56 AM
5

The first comment is so common. ”Why don't you go your way already? Pfft!” Well we still live on planet earth. It's not like we can just launch ourselves into outerspace. Neither do all of us become hermits. We still live in the same society the feminists do, how ever we often create our own meaning and purpose in life. It's like they expect us to behave like some cartoon villains. As if we should have our own secret lairs and minions. Outwardly we look the same as ever, what has changed is the …
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 12:13 PM
5

Substitute straight white men with the word "Jews", and you understand how racist this actually is.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 09:13 AM
1

But where will I take my Islamophobia then? In all seriousness, you'd want racists to be able to speak their mind, just so that people can debate them. If you publicly point out how bad the racist ideas are, it is way better than banning people from expressing bad ideas. Bad ideas should be debated and exposed.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 08:48 AM
4

Rofl! XD
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 08:22 PM
2

I'm 41. I've been on my own (as far as other people know) since my mid 20's. People stopped caring about my relationship status in my early 30's. They know I am single and they don't really care. If push comes to shove in social circumstances, I joke about it. Like ”Who knew that middle aged philosophers aren't in high demand by women? Had I known this, I would have chosen a different carrer path!”....etc etc... The long and short of it is, that by the time you reach your mid 30's people will st…
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 10:47 AM
12

How do the writers at the Onion come up with stuff like this? XD Oh wait..It's real? Satire has become real life.
/r/MGTOW11/11/17 08:02 PM
1

I object! I am indeed a white gamer, but I am not a racist. I am in fact a Lyndon LaRouche minion. I wish these people would stop discriminating against us. People's front of Judea shall rise again!
/r/MGTOW07/11/17 10:23 PM
2

To be honest, my K/D ratio is just as bad in SW Battlefront. All I gotta to do now is grow some tits and I am all set.
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 11:54 PM
8

That's what I do with young, white ”leftist” women; When they start talking about privilege, I turn the tables on them and talk about how much privilege they have. They don't like that one bit. They don't like to be in that position at all. For them, it's much more fun to be a victim of the ”white, cis gendered, hetero-normative- patriarchy”. Hehe. I also sometimes debate them, but what I am noticing is that they are basically racist towards white guys these days. I would have never believed it,…
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 04:49 PM
6

Haha! "Yes, I am better than you." - Anna Whatshername from the Young Turks.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 06:07 PM
17

Ah, a shit test in the form of a haircut. She is fighting the patriarchy and looking good while doing it! Also, why do SJW's always have that smirk? The social justice smirk?
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 11:11 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/MGTOW29/10/17 06:00 PM
35

When they start saying stuff like that and I'm in the same room, I start looking for an exit. At my age (41), that stuff is more than a little annoying by now. ”No, I am not a captain save-a-ho. I have my own life to live. I can't give you back your youth, nor can I magically give you a family.” That ship sailed a long time a go.
/r/MGTOW29/10/17 08:41 AM
9

It's a way to get people to focus on other things than collapsing economies, infra structures and corrupt governments. That's why they push all these social issues all the time. It's an old trick that leaders have used for eons; Push people's buttons on social issues, so they wont notice how things are falling apart.
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 02:41 PM
3

Finnish men are fed up. - Good news for once here.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 09:16 AM
3

I suppose some people think it's a ”sour grapes” type of thing; That we secretly do want women. But we already know where that path leads, so now that we do something different, some people can't quite take it seriously. Like it's some sort of game that they think we are playing, I suppose? Some of my friends thought so too, but a decade later they realized that I was simply being honest when I told them that I didn't want another relationship.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 08:29 PM
23

Yeah, that's an excellent point. Industry used to mean that you actually produced something. Other than scams and ripoffs, that is.
/r/MGTOW16/10/17 03:23 PM
13

There was one Youtuber by the name of Shinu Asami (?, I think) who basically said that once things start collapsing, feminists will try to do an 11th hour compromise; really half-assed 11th hour compromise. I think we might be starting to witness that half assed attempt at a compromise. I mean she ”declares feminism dead”. And I declare that I am re-incarnation of the late, great Gordie Howe. That's how much weight these declarations have.
/r/MGTOW16/10/17 03:18 PM
2

Oh Gods, lol. ”White Rose”...Rofl!
/r/MGTOW13/10/17 09:08 AM
4

not all women are racially aware -What? Why is she bringing race into it? Blaming other races? I mean can't people drop the identity politics just for one day? "Oh she fell onto some bad boy cock because she wasn't "racially aware"" - Yeah, seems legit. Jesus!
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 10:37 PM
1

This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper. I hate this country so much sometimes.
/r/MGTOW12/10/17 08:43 AM
3

I think he was talking about some men's desire for revenge. I can't speak for huMan of course, but that was the impression I got. That it was unhealthy to hold on to some kind of revenge fantasy. I think huMan would agree that our current situation in the West is completely unsustainable and feminism and female nature is in large part to blame for that.
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 08:51 AM
2

Yeah. This system does make the banks very powerful indeed. I can only guess how much influence they have behind the scenes. There's another interpretation to all of this though; Namely that the debt is actually a shadow cast by even bigger problem. The debt gives us a way to access natural resources in a way that we couldn't otherwise. Debt allows us to push the cost of resource extraction into the indefinite future. It also allows us to run these very expensive centralized power structures wit…
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 08:41 AM
5

There is truth in what you said too. No doubt about that. But they have let the problem grow for so long, that even reforming the system is not going to work in many countries. All that debt still keeps piling up. I think we live in the era of consequences; No matter what we, or the politicians do, the systems can't keep on going the way they have been going.
/r/MGTOW07/10/17 08:05 AM
6

Yeah, like many others have said, if these women were really traditional they'd be raising kids by now. I mean they are in it for the money. They are to conservatives, what gamergirls are for nerds. Well, times being what they are, I can't fault these women for trying to make a buck. We all gotta make a living and God knows these girls won't be able to do what they are doing once their looks fade. So gotta cash in fast.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 08:47 PM
1

They are pretty arrogant for one. I'd also rather work with males. But there are some exceptions as well. It's very difficult to get anything done with the females. Even just getting some documents looked at takes a long time. What I do is I visit the women personally face to face if I need something done. Sending email is useless.
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 09:05 PM
5

One thing about academics is that they are rarely ahead of the curve. They often lag behind it. If there is a change in a society, academics often interpret it, rather than instigate it. If there was a revolution tomorrow, 99% of the academics wouldn't notice it until weeks later. So Peterson might also be ”lagging”, in a sense. He might just now begin to understand all the problems that out of control feminism has done to the society at large. For now he has been focusing on women studies in th…
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 07:30 AM
7

It's what happens as you get older as a man. You start seeing the burden that these women really are. And a part of me hates saying that, since we are talking about human beings here, but it is what it is. It's what Paul Proteus says: he doesn't look at women as 10's, 9's, 8's...etc..But rather he looks them as 10, 12, 13, 14....So on... Those numbers are the extra hours of work per week you'd have to do if you were to enter into a relationship with them. So, as you get older and wiser, you kind…
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 10:13 AM
5

She is very lovely indeed. What an elegant lady.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 01:36 PM
4

It's a nice straw man. Does anyone here actually advocate punching feminists? I personally just let feminists marinade in their own juices. I don't really care about their sex life either. That's kind of the whole point of MGTOW for me, but what ever. As for single moms, -best just to avoid them altogether. It's not misogyny to let people take responsibility for their own actions. One would think that feminists would advocate this too. I mean freedom and responsibility go together. But I forget,…
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 01:30 PM
1

Yeah, pretty much.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 12:07 PM
2

Yeah. It is really bizarre and funny. Future historians are going to have a lot of fun figuring out what went on in our gynocentric societies as they were nearing collapse. Declining civilizations seem to all exhibit these weird contradictions and behaviors.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 12:44 PM
10

Yeah. He is not wrong about that.
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 11:22 AM
1

Hehehe! Thanks I will!
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 06:16 PM
5

I'm going to fix my guitar and play it a bit. Gonna make some 3d models, watch a movie, play with my Nintendo switch and read. Being a middle aged heavy metal nerd can be a lot of fun. ;)
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 06:06 PM
1

Personally I think there's a natural limit to wealth, it's something like three generations. Very few Finns had anything resembling prosperity 100 years ago. We've now had that three generations of welth, collectively, in Finland. People have forgotten what poverty is and have gotten unappreciative and spoiled. I think you are 100% right about that. I'm also glad that you're studying stem and have observed that there are women who have children before graduation. That is indeed good. It's not so…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 05:22 PM
1

These are dark topics, so naturally the discussion is often heated. What John Michael Greer is fond of saying is: ” When you encounter a problem, see if it is actually a predicament, rather than a problem. For predicaments, there are no solutions.” I think Finlands situation is a predicament, rather than a problem. There are no good solutions for it, but at the very least we could stop making it worse and start some kind of public discourse. Anyway we slice it, our future is going to be a lot po…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 08:43 AM
1

But you see, I don't complain. What I wrote was an observation of a decaying system. It was a bit satirical even. I am personally just a man who tries to muddle through and live with the cards that I have been dealt. I haven't even used the healthcare system in 20 years. I don't even use roads because I don't own a car. I do use the library, but I have paid taxes before so those taxes should cover something at least. I am not asking for political change, neither do I make any kinds of demands. I…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 08:11 AM
1

Oh Jesus. I am not complaining about myself. I am observing. Not once have I complained about my situation. I muddle through life the best I can. Not once did I make myself a victim. Now put a hand over your chest/heart and tell me that you are OK with the government giving away people's resources to the migrants. You are fine with that? Or do you think there is some injustice in it all, when we sometimes can't even feed our own kids? People react things that look like injustice to them. I react…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:47 AM
1

I think it is because of the cycle. Like it works in the beginning when you have resources and wealth. So people who look at these systems and only see the early stages of the cycle. They don't don't see how it all ends. So they look at it and go;”Oh wow! We should have this free shit too! Look at how wonderful it is over there.” But they don't come back in like 50 years to see the difference.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:35 AM
1

Heh, well I hope their offspring can find away to live without electricity in minus 30 degrees celsius in the winter. Because that's what's coming. I hope for their sake that Allah can keep them warm, because the government sure as hell can't, the way things are going.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:33 AM
1

We have already dug ourselves in the hole. It's too late to even try radical solutions.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:31 AM
2

Yeah pretty much.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:30 AM
1

Well it does seem to be so. I mean how much does the entire world owe itself now? Something like 5 times the gpd of earth. And we still need to borrow more to keep our consumer societies going.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:30 AM
1

Jesus Christ! It's even worse than I though. XD
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:26 AM
1

Yeah it does seem that way.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:25 AM
1

I make my own money. That's why I work in the grey sector. How does that make me a ”prime” abuser? Wouldn't a ”prime abuser” be a person who comes here to just live of the labor of others? But hey, have fun feeding those guys with your own labor. At least you're not a ”prime abuser” yourself. Have a pat on the back.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 07:23 AM
1

Yeah. They replaced real economic growth with these insane housing bubbles and debt. So it looks like there is economic activity. But as a result it's too damn expensive to live now (unless you can get the government to pay for your housing). It was an insane idea and the consequences are starting to bite. I myself live in a small bachelor box.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 08:55 PM
2

Yeah it's very sad what's going on. I suspect this is the main reason they keep the interest rates so insanely low. Everyone's up to their eyeballs in debt. Can you imagine what would happen if the rates would normalize? The whole system is already cannibalizing itself. With higher interest rates it would turn into a feeding frenzy.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 08:05 PM
4

Heh. Well drinking, going to sauna and then jumping in snow naked is almost as fun as escorts. You gotta try it at least once in your life.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:45 PM
2

Yeah, I mean I know one guy who is shacking up with a post wall woman, and I keep wondering ”whatta hell for?”. Last I checked they bought some cats. The woman can't even cook. There's something really sad about that couple now. It's even sadder to sack up with a woman that can't have kids, then to just live alone IMO. I don't know, but life has this cruel side to it, and I think we spend too much time trying to deny that this cruel side exists. Especially many people who live in these Nordic we…
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:42 PM
1

That's an excellent write up. I have to actually copy this and save this to my hd. Thank you. I don't think I can add anything to this.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:35 PM
2

Perhaps, but the real question is, why would they want to sell oil to countries that aren't exactly friendly towards them. I mean I'm sure Trump and Putin both are pretty fed up with Europeans and their antics.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:32 PM
1

Yeah. It is one of those interesting paradoxes that seem to occur in declining civilizations.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:31 PM
1

It is interesting though, but I don't think we can do anything about this at this stage. Hopefully you guys can learn something from us, if nothing else.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:30 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:29 PM
2

For a while they are cute.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:29 PM
1

I really doubt the KGB has anything to do with this, but one never knows... They might even resurrect Lenin the way things are going.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:28 PM
2

Hehehe, yeah indeed. That's the irony of it all. One would think that in a country like this women would be having children more. I mean they get taken care of, the crime rates are low..The environment is great...But no. The exact opposite happens. I do find that interesting.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:28 PM
1

Cheers mate!
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:26 PM
3

Maybe. But don't you think that it is ironic that our grandfathers earned much less and had more children. The women back then had no help from the government either.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:26 PM
2

I thought it was Estranged by Guns and Roses. But like a rolling stone is also apt.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:24 PM
2

Hehe. Good advice!
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:23 PM
1

That's crazy. It seems that all over the developed world the populations are crashing.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 09:09 PM
3

You raise a number of good points. I don't know how to really even answer. I'll just write down some thoughts that I've been thinking: I think a lot of men are so apathetic, beaten down by this system, by false promises, that there is no motivation to even defend the culture. If that's what's even called for. European culture itself has been deconstructed, turned into a post-modernist joke and then digested and vomited out. I don't know if a culture can survive this type of meat grinder that Eur…
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 09:07 PM
2

Yeah, and I think in Sweden too. I think governments tend to let the elderly suffer first, because they are too old to go the barricades and protest. That's the cruel logic behind it. Out of sight, out of most people's minds.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 08:12 PM
1

Thanks. I suspect a lot of people will move out after the whole thing goes tits up. People are opportunistic; If you offer them free money, then don't be surprised when they come. Somali's are taking advantage of a silly situation. In a way I can't really blame them for that.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:31 PM
3

It's been ages since I've been to Norway. I also wanted to move to a small Norwegian town to live. I suspect that the smaller towns are OK. It's a beautiful country, that's for sure.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:28 PM
2

I know it sounds shocking, but there are all kinds of ways to hide the actual unemployment rates. Lot of the guys who are unemployed stay inside the whole day. But if you can, take a day off from work and go take a walk in the center of the town/city where you live during the day time. Just by eyeballing the situation you can see there are lot's of people hanging around without jobs. These numbers aren't my own. The official unemployment rate doesn't include people who are working age, but consi…
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:26 PM
2

Norway is really interesting. Theoretically it should be one of the few countries on earth that could maintain a feminist/welfare system the longest. But if it is already so underfunded....Well wow....
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:17 PM
3

The culture has turned anti-male over time. Cultures change slowly. The change creeps up on you. One day men start waking up and asking:"What the hell kind of country is this, really anyway?"
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:15 PM
2

Well, it could be. Every day that goes by like this, the more I think that your view turns out to be true in the end.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:13 PM
3

They are using all kinds of gimmicks to make the stats look better than they really are. They have basically backed themselves into a corner; I mean they need foreign investment, but no one is going to invest into a country that has unemployment rate of 15%. And the only way to get the unemployment rate down, is to have foreign investment, since the country itself is broke. So it creates an incentive for the government to fudge the stats. Just by talking to people you realize how many are actual…
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:12 PM
13

I think that by pandering to women, they create a society that's easier to manage. The downside is, that this type of society doesn't have long to go before it starts imploding. Tragic, really.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:08 PM
1

That might be wise, I'm sad to say.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:06 PM
10

Thanks for the comment and suggestions. I'll just say a thing about that racism bit. This isn't even really fully directed at you. It's just something I've been thinking about a lot: One of the big problems in Europe is not skin colors, but our fiscal situation. Anyone who points this out and mentions how unsustainable our fiscal situation really is (combined with mass migration), gets often labeled a racist. Europe does not want to talk about this issue, because it is uncomfortable. So we'd rat…
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:52 PM
2

Well you're right of course. But they do make it so easy to be a life long bachelor, now don't they?
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:19 PM
6

Yeah, we are living in interesting times. That's for sure.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:09 PM
11

The last time the birth rate was this low here, there was a great famine. Imagine that; Feminism is outdoing great famines. ;)
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:08 PM
8

Greetings!
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:07 PM
3

Cheers!. Yup, we are boned.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:57 PM
7

Heh. I'm glad you had fun with this.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:56 PM
9

Yeah thanks. I guess it was time that we got this show on the road, so to speak.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:56 PM
3

Thanks. I'm a fairly happy guy. Life is pretty good. Well it would be, if that pesky fempocalypse wasn't on the horizon. ;)
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:54 PM
10

Cheers. Get paid by paypal or patreon. Or with cash. Find out if your goverment tracks those things of course.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:53 PM
6

It is indeed sad (surullista, exactly). Thank you for the comment. Dark times ahead.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:52 PM
4

Western governments tend to hide a lot of ugly statistics. So the real unemployment rates rarely are accurate. This is true for many countries. They started doing this in the late 90's. For political reasons.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:51 PM
6

Hmm..I'm not sure I quite follow you. But why am I concerned? If I may get a bit philosophical, then being concerned over others is one of the ways us humans relate to the world and being in general. German philosopher Martin Heidegger pointed out, that having ”care” (sorge) was fundamental to humans. We care about things, people and culture. We can't help but care. I hope that this rambling made some sense. I can't really explain it any better in English, I'm afraid.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:49 PM
3

Thank you. I'll be sure to check out your movement.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:45 PM
6

Yeah, the oil story/predicament is quite interesting. I've been studying it for a decade now, almost. Norway is headed towards...well...Interesting times as well. Don't know how long the Norwegian dames can afford to have those attitudes, given what's coming. But then again same could be said for almost all Western women.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:45 PM
3

Yup. Our country will make for an interesting case study for future historians, if nothing else.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:42 PM
11

Ah, cheers mate. 11 years, huh? I think I've been a MGTOW for over a decade as well. Time flies. Yeah, a MGTOW man can live a fairly good life here, as long as he knows how to avoid traps. Well, for now at least. I like to do some gaming as well (just bought Nintendo Switch for shit and giggles), I play the guitar, study philosophy...and so on... Life is pretty good. I quite drinking when I turned 40. But I did enjoy my booze and can't blame the lads for drinking a lot. What else is there to do …
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:42 PM
6

By now, Putin would get a red carpet treatment if he decided to invade the country. That would be my guess at least. One way to end the madness...
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:37 PM
8

Well it's way too late now. Now we just have to get through this weird time period and see what's on the other side. I'll be dead by then, but maybe there will be an effort to rebuild then.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:36 PM
6

I'm sure you're right.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:35 PM
40

Oh Jesus! I know. I have had the "pleasure" of meeting some American exchange students. You guys have it even worse. I know some American men come here for "unicorn hunting". Good luck to them.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:34 PM
9

They don't really care as long as the party is still going. Once the music stops, then who knows? But it will be too late then.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:33 PM
3

Well there is that at least. Agreed.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:32 PM
11

Everything is connected, as the wise Zen masters used to say.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:31 PM
9

True, but our population is also smaller than in Sweden. Also I think they are hiding the true numbers of migrants that came here. They are hiding and censoring the situation in the news as well. There were already migrant riots in my town. So things are pretty heated.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:31 PM
2

Cheers. the situation is pretty dire and they are doing all they can to hide it. Our fiscal situation is horrific.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:29 PM
5

I think people will move out of the country when the free stuff ends. Not many people would live here during the winter without government services. So we might avoid a fate worse than death, but a lot of suffering is coming.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:28 PM
7

Thanks mate. Things will get more interesting for sure.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:25 PM
9

Thanks but I think it is too late to fix things. I read somewhere that the real debt to gdp here (private and public) is around 500%. If that's true, then it is way too late. Train of Consequences is coming.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:24 PM
19

Hejsan! Howdy neighbor!
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 10:25 AM
11

Yeah. That's how it happened to me as well. One weekend I just stayed home and read a book instead of going out. I enjoyed it. So the next weekend I did the same thing. Then the next weekend I stayed home and played video games. So on and so forth....
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 02:54 PM
44

I haven't been on a date in over a decade, heh. I just realized back in the day, that if I was honest with myself then I'd rather not go on dates anymore. I'd rather spend that money on myself. Just staying at home, reading a book for example is more enjoyable to me than going on a date.
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 07:16 AM
6

These women don't get it. Being TRULY Red Pill means telling the ugly truth, NOT trying to explain your negative/promiscuous behavior. Just own it already and accept "damaged goods" status. I guess it's the old; If your salary (beta wallet in this case) depends on you not understanding something, you probably will not understand it.
/r/MGTOW08/09/17 07:32 AM
2

The comments on that article are hilarious:Nothing but various shaming tactics thrown around.. Heheheh. It's like something out of Monty Python. rofl.
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 09:32 PM
1

There wouldn't be a group called ”women” if they did not all share something in common. That's how groups work. All women have something in common. Otherwise they wouldn't be women, but something else. I am sure some women can treat men better than others, but I am equally sure that they are still women and are all alike in some way. So the NAWALT thing to me is kinda non existent. It's like asking are all elephants like that? - Well yes, otherwise we wouldn't call them elephants. Could there be…
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 05:12 PM
5

Well a lot of the stuff Simone wrote about sounded like it came from the pages of Being and Nothingness. I studied a lot of Jean-Paul Sartre's writings for my bachelors degree. I've read a little bit of Beavoirs work as well and it honestly was heavily influenced by Sartres exitentialism. At least that was my impression of it. Or at the very least they influenced each others and it shows. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/MGTOW02/09/17 04:06 PM
14

Sartre was never married. He was opposed to institutions like marriage.
/r/MGTOW02/09/17 03:06 PM
11

Ahh, the spinster bubble is getting closer to bursting.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 09:02 AM
9

I eventually stopped hanging around my friends and their girlfriends.The guys were no longer fun to be around and everything they did had to be OK'd by the Frauhlein. It's just depressing to bear witness to; To see your friends become pussywhipped in front of your very eyes. I just couldn't take it. To see my male friends lose their dignity like that was too much for me. Heh. I didn't really get over it. It's just something that happens. Women are very good at making sure that their boyfriends l…
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 10:02 PM
2

Thanks for the info and putting it into a context.
/r/MGTOW25/08/17 01:32 PM
1

Jesus. One wonders how dangerous and toxic that makeup actually is to a baby.
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 07:23 AM
18

Without even reading the article, I'll just say this: First outsource all the jobs. Remove the ladders of upward mobility. Then feminize the colleges. Create the biggest debt bubble in human history. Demonize the young men and finally have them watch as their fathers get divorced. Then complain when young men don't ”man up”. What was it that Hunter S Thompson said? ”In a nation of swines, only pigs are upwardly mobile.” That's the west in a nutshell. Too late now anyway. Who wants to ”man up” to…
/r/MGTOW19/08/17 05:32 PM
3

Wait a minute! Aren't you the guys who destroyed our prestigious Karl Marx memorabilia and our Lenin cosplay costumes? Damn you!
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 07:32 PM
26

Jokes on them. I'm secretly part of the Ctrl Left.
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 05:40 PM
1

Their movement today is a textbook example of Nietzsches ”resentment”. It is based on envy and hostility towards a made up enemy, if you will. Their own inadequacy needs a target to blame. They need an outside force to take the blame for their existence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ressentiment There's not that much that you as a young man can do about it. This type of resentment will eventually implode on itself. The trick is to be as far away from the implosion as possible when it happens. O…
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 11:48 AM
1

That's because this is Men Going Their own Way. Not "Men with waifus", or "Men and women going the same way"....Etc... WGTOW sub is elsewhere.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 11:27 AM
1

Oh man. It's so funny and sad at the same time.... Can't cook...Complains about having to do the dishes. One woman that I know tried to combine pie and soup. ”I'll just add these two things together and magic will happen..” Spinach – pie - soup. I suppose it's good that a lot of these women don't have children.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 10:57 PM
1

Hahaha! Jesus! I shouldn't laugh but... Oh man!
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 09:36 PM
1

This is what Top Dollar said about traditionalism; These fish are cooked: ”Imagine having an aquarium. One day you wanna make fish soup out of it. You can do that. But you can't turn a fish soup into an aquarium. You just can't reverse the process.” And this is why traditionalism won't work today. The fish are cooked. These women that wrote all that stuff...Well they are cooked. Fish soup. You can't have a family with women like these. They worry about patriarchy...The patriarchs couldn't do any…
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 07:02 PM
6

That's really nice to hear. I think your Mom did you and your sister a great favor. I mean that's how it used to work: Mothers and Fathers used to pass their knowledge and skills to their children. That's how we in turn became useful to our societies; By learning these skills that benefit us and others. We lost all that and we lost a sense of having real communities as well. I honestly think that we are headed towards hard times and having skills will help a lot. Your sister is in a lot better p…
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 09:01 PM
15

Yeah, it's actually sad on some level. They have lost so much. I mean they have even lost the respect that men used to have for them. Sure there are simps who adore women, but men used to respect women. It's very sad what they have allowed themselves to become. In my life there is only one or two women that I respect. What can I say? Being a MGTOW these days comes naturally. Women have made it so easy for us to turn our backs to them.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 07:05 PM
12

Yeah, I agree. I mean both men and women have lost a lot of skills due to modernity. But modern women have lost all their skills. Women used to take pride in the skills that they had. These days, what do they take pride in? How many guys they have slept with? Today, if a man learns how to cook and clean, and learns to go without sex, then he can do without a woman easily. In fact his life will be much easier for it. That's a sad testament of what modern women have become.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 07:02 PM
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Well, they used to have skills. I mean my mother can cook, clean, make clothing, mow the lawn and do housekeeping. She not an engineer who designed paper factories like my father, but she does have some skills. Modern women, not so much. In fact I wouldn't let a modern western woman near my kitchen. She would just burn it to the ground. So these days they are an even bigger burden than ever in human history.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 05:01 PM
20

The corporations must be happy. This woman is the perfect consumer. She applies consumer logic even to her love life. It's as if she is buying a car, or a kitchen appliance. - ”Must have this and this color...” -”Why certainly madam. Step right over here. Perhaps this model might interest you. Chad McChadderton. Money back guarantee and if you regret you get vaginamoney”
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 08:02 PM
2

Hehe, thanks. :D
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 06:44 PM
58

Oh boy, that girl is in for a surprise later in life. (Hey I'm a poet and don't even know it!) I'm 41 and MGTOW monk. I'm happier now than I've ever been before. I'm working and studying. Reading interesting books, exercising, playing videogames, 3dmodeling and enjoying life. The funny part in all of this is, that I get far more attention from women now, than I ever did when I was younger. It's bloody crazy. But the thing is, I don't want anyone anymore. I like the calm serenity. I like coming a…
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 10:38 AM
4

It's a great post. I've heard it said somewhere that before Martin Luther King died, he wondered if in fact he was leading his people in to a burning building instead of freedom. It's kinda an enigmatic thing to say, but I think he might have seen our way of life as a trap: The whole career, 9 to 5, consumer debt, vicious cycle to upgrade, to climb the career ladder...Maybe all of that at the end of the day really doesn't make us happy, but empty instead. We really aren't the content of our wall…
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 07:17 AM
7

A prostitute who is a communist. Now that is funny. Didn't Marx call them ”lumenproletariat”? - People who are basically swindlers and hucksters? According to Marx these people have no class consciousness. If she wants to get married after 40, then one wonders if she has any kind of consciousness at all, or self awareness....
/r/MGTOW29/07/17 09:10 PM
2

Their ”problems” these days are existential; They feel patronized by ”mansplaining”. They feel bad about bodyshaming..Shit like that. Asking men/society to carry their existential burdens is just so lazy, it's difficult to even comprehend. Women have to women up. Line has to be drawn. We have to say that this shit has gone far enough. These women have to understand that existence comes with burdens and difficulties. It's just how it goes. That's the most irritating part of 3rd wave feminism: It'…
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 08:24 PM
3

Men really need to learn how to say ”No!” to women. This shit really has to end. Women have to solve their own existential woes.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 06:03 PM
2

I'm just sick and tired of it all. It would be better to just sent them all to Malawi, I agree. But at this stage of the game, the Nordic welfare state is done. It is over. It's being kept together with spit and duct tape. They can barely even afford to hire doctors these days. A lot of these women have no clue how bad it is going to get in a decade or two. Their gender neutral matriarchy is going to look like absolute hell on earth.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 05:59 PM
1

Yeah it's getting tiresome. I personally couldn't care less if they are getting boned by some Somali migrants. I just don't wanna pay for this insanity. The Nordic women can have their ass backwards matriarchy if and when they pay for it. Just leave me out of it. It's all I ask.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 01:39 PM
7

It's like huMan says: It's just one female crisis after another. ”Oh noes! What ever shall we do about womens and their body image problems? Quick! Call all the whiteknights! The government must do something!” These first world female problems are so God damn tiresome.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 01:33 PM
5

I've said this to my friends: If Finland opened it borders to Japanese Christmas cakes (single women over 25) and let 50 000 of them in (with no passports or I.D. of any kind), because their government is harming their health (fukushima. Argument can be made), then the women here would have been up in arms. But because we let in 50 000 (or more. I don't trust the government) young men from middle east and Africa, all the women here were just happy to stick it to the patriarchy. God knows how man…
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 12:04 PM
3

Heh. Not quite. I retired my bicycle and sith cape many moons a go. But I kept the name for old times sake. Dueling Jedis just doesn't seem as fun as it used to.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 01:31 PM
2

Yeah. And now you know how I got my name. ;)
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 01:14 PM
17

Nah, our women have Jedi powers. Like in this video. They don't need no lame armbands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJjO47jLQUk
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 12:46 PM
5

The headline, and the smug look on her face in the picture. -Just perfect. If picture could tell a thousand words and all that... ”Mush slaves! Produce! Produce! Your queen commands you!”
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 09:48 AM
5

Lord Cuckington I presume?
/r/MGTOW25/07/17 10:52 AM
22

Yeah. I gotta write this shit down too.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 09:57 PM
1

I hear you. My grandfathers were the last true patriarchs that I knew. They both fought in WW2 against Soviet Union. They had to rebuild the country after the wars. They had to take care of their women and make sure the children became responsible adults..So on and so on.... Sure they were respected, but what did they get out of all this? Early graves. They both died in their early 60's. I spent my summers with my grandfather and loved him very much. But I could see the heavy responsibility weig…
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 11:21 AM
3

Well, I'm making a 3d model of Star Lords mask and weapons. That's a challenge. I haven't really made 3d models like those before. But it's going fairly well. I'm also going to study some Swedish. My Swedish is very rusty. Gonna make some 3d renders later as well. I also borrowed a book on Diogenes from the library. So I'll be reading that, plus a new Witcher novel as well. The witcher novel is damn good, as they all have been so far. It's going to be another busy weekend for me.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 09:31 AM
13

Right. Well, I'll stick to video games then.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 04:02 PM
58

What companionship?
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 01:25 PM
7

Eventually yes. Even in my former hometown of 32 000 people, there are now lot's of 3rd world migrants there. But, guess what? No jobs.Massive unemployment rates, massive dependance on the state, states and municipalities going bankrupt because of lack of taxpayers and low wages..On and on...I mean they can't even hire doctors anymore, but somehow progress is still happening. Eventually things will get violent. The west has slit its own throat already. It's just a question of how this will end. …
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 02:32 PM
5

Yeah. Many places in Europe too. I mean we now have no-go zones in Sweden of all places. (If the reports are true and I believe they are.) Hang on to your hats, it's going to get rough over here as well.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 01:19 PM
9

Yeah, I don't hate Trump at all. I can understand why people voted for him.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 01:15 PM
5

Yeah. Pretty much.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 12:28 PM
4

It is. It's picking up speed. I wonder if they (Trump?) can stabilize the system for a while. That would be good.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 12:28 PM
15

I think their timeline might be a bit off, but otherwise I agree with them. The collapse is happening right now and picking up speed. I think the collapse started somewhere around 2001 -2008. Maybe even around 1970, if you look at how much real wages have declined. Individually many people have been in a collapse mode for a long time. Collapses usually take long time though. Usually multiple factors factor into it. We might be able to survive sexual liberation, but not sexual liberation and peak…
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 10:02 AM
1

Yeah, that would be best for everyone considered. I wonder that, maybe the guys are coming here because traditional relationship advice is so gynocentric and doesn't really work, that they are looking for new answers. Hmm. I hope they do find those answers.
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 12:50 PM
3

I agree. Those guys really do need another sub where they can talk about their relationships. The only relationship advice I can give is:”Get the hell out of a relationship. It's not worth it.”
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 12:27 PM
2

Indeed. I just hope they can stretch it out just a couple of years more, so I can get better prepared.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 11:48 AM
2

Yeah. Many European countries are over 100% debt to GDP. Many hide their debts as well. We are reaching the point where we can't produce our way out of it, because any wealth that we might manage to produce, goes to paying the interest on the debt. So we are running faster, just to stay still. At some point we are going to inflate our ”way out of this”. And then it will take decades to build the wealth back. That is, if we can even do it. Because all of this is going to lead to insane political …
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 10:41 AM
2

Yeah. It's starting to catch up in Europe big time. Our banking system is bigger than the physical economy. The debt will eat everything up. That's a big sign that things have gotten way out of whack here. Our state feminist societies are being kept afloat with duct tape and spit at this point.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 10:22 AM
2

Yeah. I guess ”inner migration” (as one historian calls it) is the only option. You limit your exposure to this degenerate culture as much as you can and spend your own time pursuing meaningful things instead. In solitude, if you have to. It's the best I can do in this situation. I'm also going to move to an even smaller town in the future, but that will present it's own problems.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 09:52 AM
1

These are really beautiful. I like both of the paintings on the left hand side. I think the portrait of the woman with eyes closed really came out nice. Her face especially looks good. Her neck and hand are a bit off, but the overall paining looks great regardless.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 09:12 AM
2

Yeah. A lot of men here are fed up with how things are going. You can hear men just spontaneously shout ”fuck this shit country” when you walk around the town. I mean, that's how fed up a lot of men are. The mass migration certainly didn't help either. It's been building up for 25 -30 years now. Once a country implements state feminism, everything goes to shit.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 09:06 AM
2

The other day I realized that all my friends here in Finland are MGTOW. Even my brother is MGTOW. But a lot of guys here don't call themselves that. Hell even my feminist male friend (sigh, I know) is a MGTOW. The dude hasn't been on a date in over a decade, lol.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 08:26 AM
7

Yup this country (Finland) is being flushed down the toilet thanks in part to feminism.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:49 PM
1

I think you're right. I think this economic situation is also a factor. People just don't have the patience for extra feminist bullshit on top of everything else.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:25 AM
10

Middle aged mostly. Sometimes if I am "lucky" it will be early 30's single mom. But sometimes even younger women. But those younger women are just trying to figure out if they are attractive enough to charm a jaded middle aged dude, I think. But it's mostly middle aged women who used to be attractive.
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 07:22 AM
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Oh yeah. To me it started happening after I turned 30. I wasn't really angry at that point anymore. I would still acknowledge that some women were beautiful, but I had no desire to sleep with them, or ”have them”. Because despite their beauty, I could also see how much trouble they would be. It's been like that for a decade now. Some women when they still approach me (God knows why they do that), even look confused when I politely just ”disengage” and don't pursue them. I can still appreciate be…
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 10:45 PM
1

Ah, well that does explain a lot. Heh.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 04:43 PM
1

I'm sure she will find her Chad just before she turns 30. Plenty of time for her... hahhaha!
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 02:38 PM
5

MGTOW explodes in Finland.. Boom! https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=mgtow All around the world men have had enough.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 11:29 AM
15

So I've been wondering...Does Lauren actually have kids? I mean if she is a true tradcon, then she should be raising kids and baking cookies, not making youtube videos. Or maybe she is not ready to settle down yet, lol. Oh well carry on Lauren.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 08:17 AM
1

Yeah. It's really sad what's happened.
/r/MGTOW13/07/17 08:29 AM
5

Yeah. There's actually an interesting youtube podcast with Transgender woman (mtf) and a gay guy that I sometimes listen to. They talk about gender related stuff from their perspective. They don't seem at all pleased with how feminists are trying to speak on their behalf. They seem pretty fed up with feminism as well. Their views on gynocentrism and Micro aggression against boys are really interesting stuff. I do like listening to ”crossing ways” and ”Jay”. I'm rambling but they seem to indicate…
/r/MGTOW12/07/17 03:10 PM
3

Well you're right about that.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 05:10 PM
12

There's a great video huMAN made the other day. In it he suggested that pretty soon the females will be demanding welfare husbands..Lmao! "Quick! We must lobby the government to make husbands to these left over "career" women!" Yup, a new government program will come to the rescue no doubt. Roflmao. And they aren't reading our minds, they are reading our sub.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 11:38 AM
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I like how almost right away some commenter says it's better in Scandinavia. Well try living here for a while. See if it is really any better. If we somehow created a gender neutral paradise here, then why are our birth rates also dropping like a rock? Why are the divorce rates here almost 50% officially? (God knows what the actual rates are? 60- 70%?) I love how people will just bargain instead of smelling the napalm in the air;”There must be a place on earth where this shit actually works! We …
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 09:10 AM
18

Yeah, ditto.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 01:52 PM
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”Must...Whiteknight...for European women...Attempting...to give..a fuck...Speaking...like Shatner. now..”.Nah, fuck it. I'll just have a beer and play some Elder Scrolls online. Later I'll read an interesting book on Nietzsche that I just borrowed from the library. The tax money does something useful sometimes. As for European women, well I'll just follow Homer Simpsons wisdom; ”Let nature take care of her own..:” Adios!
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 04:57 PM
2

Thanks for the heads up. I'll go see Ronin Mans videos. It was actually one of Sandmans videos. He talked about this dating service thing they had for women in Toronto. Only two guys showed up for that dating thing: One blind man and one war veteran with no legs. The ladies rejected both guys. That's kind of a bitter redpill to swallow, but Sandman was able to somehow keep the atmosphere light in that video. He is pretty good at that; Just keeping things humorous that might otherwise send guys r…
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 10:47 PM
2

If I would have to redpill a friend quickly, I'd show his some funny Sandman video, or a video by Paul Proteus. I know some people have some issues with Sandman, but he has some really good, snarky and funny videos as well. There's one really good video about men not dating in the Toronto area. It is shocking and funny the first time you listen to it. (Can't remember the name). But after watching that video you realize that other guys are thinking what you are thinking. We are all thinking it. I…
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 08:20 PM
1

Hehehe. Praise Kek. Someone also came up with a clever scheme on how like Sweden or Finland could get rid of their debts and migrants problems; Declare war on Russia. Then 5 seconds later declare unconditional surrender. Putin would be going; ”What the hell just happened? Oh, wait. We own Sweden and Finland now. Alright! OH WAIT, we own their debts now too.Shit!” Could work. ;)
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 02:03 PM
1

I think our leaders are basically trying to solve one problem by causing 2 new problems. Not enough taxpayers, ”let's import people from Middle east! Oh shit they don't pay taxes! Now there is even more people sucking on the government tit! Import more people! Let's double down!” I think our leaders are short sighted. Kinda like what was going on in Rome and recently in Soviet Union. They just fixed one problem and then created 2, or 3 new problems that they then had to ”fix”. It's like popamole…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 11:21 PM
1

Well this is where I disagree with both the left and the right; The debt can't go on forever. The debt is actually linked to resource problem. It's used to mask the fact that we already are running out of resources, mostly energy. Illinois is just the first domino. Or maybe Detroit was. Or my own small former hometown that is drowning in debt. Debt is claim on future economic growth and prosperity. The problem is that future growth or prosperity isn't there anymore. Pretty soon all the taxes col…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 05:19 PM
1

Well that's true. But what I am trying to figure out is, what will be the long term consequences of this? You have to at least be able to keep those 990 men alive to reap the benefits of this scheme if you are elite. And I don't think 10 men with jobs can do that forever. In fact this is what we are already seeing in Europe in some states and counties; Namely they are going bankrupt. We were able to borrow money for a while to keep those 990 from completely falling out, but now that's becoming a…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 02:31 PM
1

Well there is that. There is no denying that for a while overpopulation benefits the elite. However a large population also becomes unruly and difficult to govern. I mean what are those 990 men going to do who didn't get the job? Are those 10 men with jobs going to be able to pay unemployment benefits for 990 jobless men? Yeah. And then what? I expect there to be food riots and all kinds of clashes in the future in the western world as well. That's one of the reasons why the elites are buying bu…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 02:03 PM
1

Yeah. There is so much denial going on. People seem to think that we are this special species that's going somewhere awesome and rules of nature don't apply to us. Because we are this magical species and universe owes us a happy ending. Overpopulation doesn't affect us, because laws of nature don't apply us. Some day soon they will discover that gravity doesn't affect us either. I'll be eagerly waiting for that day.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 11:23 AM
1

Perhaps. But then again the blue pill men who reproduce too much end up proving Thomas Malthus right. The more population → the more drain on resources → poverty increases. In fact I would be willing to bet that the current economic woes in the world are partly due to the fact that there are over 7 billion of us now. There is no way we can all live like the social democratic Swedes did a couple of decades a go. In fact the Swedes are finding out that even they can't live like they used to. But I…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 10:32 AM
1

Maybe. But then you wonder, what the hell kind of society is it, that some men must simply sacrifice but not get any benefits? They can't even come up with a sweet lie anymore; ”Do this and God will let you into heaven.” It's more like:” Well just do it anyway, because the rest of us really need you to sacrifice for us.”
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 07:47 AM
1

Maybe. But don't you find it interesting that society is always trying to come up with reasons for men to sacrifice their lives for. It almost never gives us a reason to live for. It's always:”Go to war, for God and country. Marry her for the sake of society. Think of the children!” That's really what tires me with Jordan Peterson and his ilk. It's like ”once more, but with feeling”. Just do it all over again, for reasons. I wonder if he has read Albert Camus. Because at some point the question …
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 11:49 PM
3

Heh. Well there is nothing wrong with binge watching some MGTOW videos. I think we've all done that.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 11:35 PM
10

I suspect that a lot of people here just post for shit and giggles. All that negativity is often not really serious. You can't really look at what's going on in this sub and then think that this is all we are and all we do. We have a life outside this sub, and outside MGTOW circles as well. I mean I discuss 3d modeling and philosophy in another subs and places. I suspects it's like that for other MGTOW guys as well. They talk about their interests and hobbies elsewhere. People just often vent he…
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 08:01 PM
8

Haha, yeah. That would be my guess as well.
/r/MGTOW03/07/17 10:49 AM
1

Yeah. Understood. I guess it starts out as equal opportunity corruption between the state and the feminists: At first the state gets the votes, and the females get little bit of resources. The politicians pay them of. But as the process continues, the state has to dole out more and more. Then they start going into debt. How ever, it's not just the feminists that are milking the state. It's also multinational corporations and their lobbyist. My guess is, that people who work for lobbyist or for t…
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 04:21 PM
4

I have to be a contrarian here: Isn't the idea of anarchy to basically not have a state? What is the biggest problem men have today in the west? –> Women have been artificially empowered by the state. The state is transferring massive amounts of wealth from productive men to women and to the political class, and to the elites. The bigger the state, the more empowered women become. There is a reason why feminism doesn't really stick in poor countries; They can't use the state to transfer resource…
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 02:29 PM
19

She already has that thousand cock stare.
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 12:16 PM
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I used to read a lot of Jean Baudrillards writings. He was a French thinker/sociologist. What I was able to understand from his writings, was that the social structure has already imploded; The apocalypse already happened, but we were too busy to notice it. So we didn't get an EMP or an asteroid, but instead a slow march to suck and implosion. All the social structures are in the state of corrosion, from families to to the institutions that supposedly govern us. And most people just cheer this p…
/r/MGTOW30/06/17 01:38 PM
2

Arun Eden-Lewis, known as Arunji, teaches Advaita, Yoga and Tai Chi retreats on the Organic Farm in Ibiza. All are welcome Bwahahahah! "Yes, I also live in eco-feminist collective, where I teach people to be in touch with their feminine side..."
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 06:05 PM
6

Well even the mainstream Japanese game developers are making fun games; Sega and Capcom come to mind right away. Even their female protagonists, like Bayonetta are a lot of fun. So they are still making fun games. As for books; It's incredibly difficult to recommend books to someone. My tastes are probably different than yours. I mean I like Paul Aster, Albert Camus, Beckett and Kafka. I haven't really read epic war novels.. I think Mika Waltari's works are pretty epic, like Sinuhe the Egyptian.…
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 05:31 PM
5

I'm a middle aged gamer. I've been playing games since the days of commodore 64. They were attacking games and gamers even during those days. In a sense it is nothing new. There was all kinds of moral outrage about the fact that boys were having fun playing video games. Almost all the outrage came from women. And that's really what it boils down to: There is a subconscious fear in society of men having fun and enjoying themselves, and not slaving away and producing resources to the society. Thes…
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 04:17 PM
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Well, she is 30 years old. Nature is now making room for younger women. She had her time to find a man. Now it's other women's turn. Nature gives women youth and beauty, but they only get to play that card for so long. When it's over, it's over. In a way, the older women have let down the younger women. They used to understand this way better. The older women would remind the younger women that youth and beauty don't last for very long. Nature really doesn't care about individuals happiness. If …
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 02:42 PM
70

Yeah, I've also been using the nice guy stick for years. It's easy way to ghost women. If you are nice and pleasant it's like you don't even leave an impression on them. The only problem is single Moms; Some of them look at nice guys as potential suckers with wallets.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 10:07 PM
7

NOBODY expects the MGTOW Inquisition! Our chief weapon is Indifference ...surprise and Indifference ...Indifference and surprise ...and ruthless efficiency.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 08:21 AM
2

PC mostly. (My God I've bought so many games on Steam I don't even wanna think about it.) But I actually bought Xbox one yesterday. Can't wait to play some Gears of War again and NHL games. I sometimes play Guild Wars 2 too.
/r/MGTOW18/06/17 08:38 PM
5

It's like that Futurama joke of trying to explain what the essence of dogma is to robots: ”I choose to believe what I am programmed to believe!”
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 06:00 PM
4

It's real. It's happening in Finland as well.
/r/MGTOW08/06/17 12:33 PM
9

There are similar rumors in Finland. There was even a newspaper article about it. As you can all guess, the investigation was silenced and no one has talked about it ever since. We as a society can't deal with it. It's one thing if men buy sex from women, but the idea that middle aged women buy sex from under aged boys....-gasp!- I am shocked! Shocked I tells ya! Our fair maidens/landwhales banging under aged boys! Who could have guessed? Refugees welcome! And let's not forget that Finnish men r…
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 03:02 PM
15

According to Dr Joseph Tainter collapse is basically a rapid simplification of a complex society. In other words, at some point your ability to run and maintain all the complexity that the society has built up vanishes. And ours is a very complex society: The global supply chain, the internet, just in time delivery, The 100 mile Caesar sallad (Thanks Kunstler)... so on and son. So obviously we are not there yet. These thing still operate. But one has to wonder for how long. I mean already we kno…
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 08:05 AM
6

Socialists used to be working class dudes who operated heavy machinery and worked with their hands. But I suppose that was a long time ago, when factory conditions were horrible. Modern socialists are just cut from a different cloth altogether.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 07:43 PM
5

I honestly don't see anything wrong with waifus. Why not? I sometimes toy with the idea of buying a life sized Kasumi (DOA) pillow as a private joke, kind of thing. I tickles my fancy, the idea of being a middle aged guy with a life sized Kasumi pillow. It's like being so past the shaming, that you can take jabs at yourself and find it amusing.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:55 PM
3

Yeah. I also wonder if technology also speeds the decline. Through technology bad ideas can spread like wildfire and burn everything to the ground that much faster. Western decline seems to be happening at the speed of light. Things that should take a hundred years to happen, take only a decade these days. It's just one crisis after another these days.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 11:54 PM
5

Yes. It is quite sad what is happening to our countries, but all good things must come to an end. It is no different in our case. What saddens me the most, is that a lot of people will suffer a lot because of this. The welfare state might come to an abrupt end. I don't even know who is stupid enough to lend Finnish government more money. We can't pay any of it back. And the Arabs and Africans aren't able to build new wealth here. I mean they can't even read or write. It's not that difficult to s…
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 06:35 PM
28

Same thing is happening here in Finland. Mind you, I have nothing against Arabs and Africans, but we simply do not have the jobs for them. And right now our safety nets are starting to implode as well. Does this bother Finish women? -No. They are boldly fighting against racism and for multiculturalism as the very systems they depend upon are imploding. So what can one say, really? I suppose our bold and brave Nordic women have figured out how to run the welfare state without tax revenue. That's …
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 12:43 PM
2

I think everyone has their epiphany phase at some point. We have to make the choice to cast off our childish mindsets and focus on what matters - now what matters to different people varies. Yeah, but you are talking about personal growth and change. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact it is inevitable. How ever, what I am saying along with many MGTOW's is something slightly different. Namely, that female nature is fickle. In a certain sense there is nothing wrong with that either. It might…
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 10:33 PM
2

My attempt at this 'different perspective' is again another evolutionary analogy. We have completely outgrown our purpose - which was to survive and pass on our genes (only if they were the good genes, of course.) Your explanation for this is the whole "alpha fucks and beta bucks" charade, women want to fuck "alpha males" then settle for "betas" when they can't marry higher up the totem pole. It may be the case for some women, but it seems to me like it isn't that simple. Well I like how Rollo T…
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 10:39 AM
1

It's usually really bad idea to come out as MGTOW. When I was your age I played the ”Oh noes! Woe is me, for I can not get laid” -card. It worked really well. People would eventually feel sorry; ”Jesus. I guess the dude really can't get laid.” They'd offer me ”advises” ”You have to be more confident. You're too nice”....etc etc... I already knew all that shit., They on the other hand, knew nothing of my sex life, or what was really going on with me. But eventually they left me alone. Then later …
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 04:22 PM
1

Haha. Yeah. We found a way to infinite prosperity! Finally! Our printing press is mightier than yours!
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 02:10 PM
3

We will collapse long before that actually happens. lol. There's not enough workers to keep our welfare systems going right now. Once the welfare runs out, it will be fun on the bun. Think it's bad now with the migrants? Watch what happens when governments can't give them "free" money. We are boned either way.
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 12:14 PM
1

You're welcome!
/r/MGTOW16/05/17 10:20 AM
8

" A real man was sighted near Burkina Faso. If you hurry, you might catch him. Rumor has it, he hasn't touched a video game since Giana Sisters was hot shit."
/r/MGTOW15/05/17 06:31 PM
1

Yeah. Seems so. Or they just ignore the test results and come up with new tests.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 08:39 AM
5

Well, can you live on welfare for the rest of you life, and sexually assault European women? If the answer is yes, then welcome to Europe!
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 08:37 AM
7

They look at history and go :”See? See? 100 years a go men wouldn't marry intersectional feminists! The women had to stay home and cook. They were oppressed!” While conveniently leaving out that 100 years a go a lot of countries were still agrarian and those peasants simply couldn't marry a woman who only regurgitated feminist dogma. No, they needed someone to help them. Everyone had to do their part. Life was much harder for everyone. The oppression that women now think they had, was due to mat…
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 08:25 AM
1

Yeah. I read an article that stated that over 60% of Psychology test can't be replicated. So, what kind of science is that anyway then, if they get different results over half the time when they re-test their theories?
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 08:14 AM
2

Regarding Peterson: The academics are usually the last to figure out what's going on in the society. There's a legend about the Platos academy that illustrates the point: They were trying to define what a human being was and the definition they came up was this :”Human being is a featherless biped.”. The Athenians heard the definition and Diogeness plucked a chicken. ”Here's your human.” So the the academics were doing a lot of naval gazing even 2500 years a go. Not much has changed. So, Peterso…
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 12:52 PM
12

Broke?
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 08:32 AM
1

No. They control it all. The "busts" are when they receive the hard assets for fake money through foreclosures. But couldn't it also be more like an unintended consequence of their actions? I mean bankers may end up owning almost everything in the world, but what the hell do they know about running for example paper factories? They are also loaded with all kinds of toxic assets these days, that they want to get rid of. I'm not so sure they planned it. Have you seen the movie "Margin call"? I thi…
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 06:40 PM
1

Hahah! Yeah, could be that it is an age thing. I think young men tend to be very idealistic often times. Sometimes this idealism goes off the rails.
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 06:35 PM
1

Yeah, I have read about Prescott Bush and the Nazi connection. I'd say that there were some elites who were banking (pun intended) on that Germany win the war, and others bet on the allies winning. I mean there is always huge sums of money to be made in wars. That's certainly true.
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 02:08 PM
1

I think it would be more accurate to say, that sometimes they unite. The elites in Russia and China aren't going along with any type of western lead NWO though. That's why there is all this sabre rattling going on. There's even infighting inside the countries; Putin versus the oligarchs for example.
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 02:03 PM
1

I don't know if they caused it, but I doubt they could control it though. I mean there was also a stock market boom, roaring 20's, the credit boom, sovereign defaults in Europe..Aftermath of ww2...There was plenty of chaos already all over the world. Also according to Hoover, capital was moving around like crazy during the great depression. It was looking for a safe haven. I'm sure the elites want to control as much as they can, but then there is also human nature that makes it difficult for ind…
/r/MGTOW09/05/17 02:01 PM
3

What is it that TFM likes to say? Something like : "What has the race ever done for you? - F the race." Sounds about right to me. But on the other hand, being a white guy, I don't really understand this self flagellation thing either, that some of my lefty friends are into.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 08:18 PM
1

When there are 3rd parties involved, a country might just stir up conflict between 2 neighboring countries. After depleting themselves, they might just be ripe for the picking. That's true of course. I've read some articles that try to argue the point that, the reason why US entered WW2 so late, was because they waited for the Soviets and Germans to weaken each other first. Obviously the US didn't orchestrate the conflict, but did emerge out of it as a world Superpower. So pretty well played, if…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 07:06 PM
3

Sören Kierkegaard, the Father of Existentialism was basically a MGTOW. He was a Christian. To him, Christianity was the highest stage of existence. And he went his own way and like I said, he became known as the Father of existentialist philosophy.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 05:54 PM
2

The wars are mostly about resources. Oil in particular. Or oil pipelines. The older Europeans are trying to save their own pension systems through mass migration. It wont work, but that's what it is mostly about. It's economic reasons. They are in desperation mode. They try to avoid what's happening to Japan.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 04:20 PM
3

I'm sure that you are correct. I mean they don't go to places like Davos to bake cookies to each other every year, that much is certain. But how united is this group though? During the good times, during growth they might be sharing the same agendas, but on the way down? I see them getting more divided. I mean they started pissing their pants because of Trump, but I think they managed to get Trump under their agenda. But next time? It might not happen. It didn't happen during the great depressio…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 02:27 PM
2

Yeah. But they couldn't really control the population on the way up, so I doubt they can control the population on the way down. It seems far more likely that nature will do the depopulation for us. Unfortunately.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 02:23 PM
4

It's not chaos per say (chaos is not their intention, it's what they end up creating), but what we have in power is a group of people, for whom borders, old identities, cultures...etc are seen as obstacle to increasing the corporate bottom line. There is a kind of perverse logic behind it all. If you want people to be consumers, then you have to get rid of the old culture that gave them purpose and direction. If you want free movement of labor and a race to the bottom, then you got to get rid of…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 01:38 PM
12

It's actually worse than a global communist conspiracy. Namely there is no one at the helm of this Titanic. OK? The people who are nominally in charge of this thing, are only concerned with quarterly profits, expanding corporate balance sheets, bonuses and so on... Globalism itself is about access to cheap labor, resources and energy. We give them paper (Euros, Dollars) and they give us tangible stuff; Products, labor, oil, so on... It's a massive swindle. Paper for stuff. In fact just digits on…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 11:26 AM
2

The alpha thing is probably a part of it, yes. But there are even more self serving reasons behind it. You have to look at how feminist politics operate in practice: They sort of view the state as this ultimate producer, like an apple tree of goodies. The way you get to those goodies, is that you bring a large group of people with you and then start shaking the tree for apples. Some of those apples then fall to women's lap as well.That's how it goes these days. And they use all kinds of peoples …
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 09:46 AM
2

I believe it. Like I said, I'm 41. Never married and I am quite happy. When I wake up in the morning, I am happy to go through another day.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 10:01 PM
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Well, I am 41. I've been a MGTOW for about 15 -16 years. What you are going through is what I went through at your age. It's at that age (30) when most of your friends will be gone. They will be married, have maybe children and you'll see less and less of them. It's just the way things are. Even if you were married, you'd lose your friends anyway. In the modern western culture men spend most of their life with their wife (until she kicks him out that is). So feeling of alienation and isolation i…
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 10:06 AM
2

Haha! Yeah.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 09:10 PM
1

I'm from Finland
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 04:10 PM
3

I'm a Hockey fan. Red Wings fan for many moons. They didn't make the playoffs this year, so I am not so enthusiastic about the NHL playoffs as I usually am.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 01:55 PM
1

Well, can you name one group that likes us? Or is even lukewarm? MRA's? Sometimes? I guess? Heh.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 12:34 PM
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Are middle aged women crazy? -Yes Signed; Middle aged man. P.S. If you think they behave crazy when they are angry at you, think how weird they get when they wanna flirt with you. Middle aged woman trying to act all flirty like a 16 year old. That shit is scarier than one of them H.R. Gigers Aliens creatures.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 10:30 PM
4

Yeah. Well, you're already seeing glimpses of the shitstorm; That's what those shaming articles by millennial women are all about: Their eggs are starting to dry up, so now they are trying to shame millennial men into ”stepping up” (as if millennial men could do something about biology, but that's how women's minds work..They can look straight into reality, and deny it). That's the shitstorm in the glass. It manifests itself in how they blame and shame millennial men, but that's what it really i…
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 09:30 PM
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Women don't really air their dirty laundry in public. It's all about appearances. If it ever comes up, it will be more subtle. She'll tell you how much she loves her cats. No joke, I've had a woman tell me that and she is your typical alpha widow.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 03:38 PM
13

Women going their own way from gynocentrism! Oh yeah, that will happen any day now. I'm sure they would totally do that, if only the wage cap wouldn't exist.. Oh wait!
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 02:04 PM
4

Yeah. No doubt. ”Video games and porn corrupting the young men and boys...” What they won't ask is, why do boys rather play games than pursue girls? I mean questions like that would lead to pretty uncomfortable areas.
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 09:53 PM
6

Hi and welcome. The women I talk to in Finland, who are aware that there is some kind of problem (with the economy mostly), say that the problem is because men started drinking more beer. I shit you not. Just men one day started getting lazier and started emptying more beer bottles than normally. Interesting theory, wouldn't you agree? Some of the more educated women how ever think that the problem is with the patriarchy, or with oppression in general. Pretty vague stuff. And I think that, that'…
/r/MGTOW20/04/17 07:31 PM
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Cheers. Yeah. Your grandparents could tell you a thing or two what it was like back then. Most people these days only see what these movements have become. Not what they were. It's very sad and dangerous what has happened to the left. Because now there is no one that speaks for the working class men. No one cares. They don't have a voice in these modern western democracies. Hopefully Trump can do something. At least he spoke about the right things. But the feminists and women voice all their idi…
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 07:26 AM
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You may not know this, but leftist movements started out as working class movements. Blue collar workers were getting shafted; You could lose your arm operating a machine and then you'd be out of work and an arm. No compensation. Just go die, you are no longer useful. World didn't used to treat it's workers very kindly. Kinda how China treats them today. Male disposability anyone? This is pretty basic MGTOW stuff actually. But the lads back then organized and fought back. Over time the factories…
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 06:48 AM
1

Why, 11 of course! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 05:09 PM
6

Yeah, I know. I went with the option number 2 myself. Raising healthy kids in this culture just seems like an impossible task now. ”No honey. Mommy is proud feminist. That's why she had to kick your no good beta daddy in to the gutter. In the mean time, here's your new dad; Chad Sexington!” Oh well, I'll just keep on keeping on and maybe buy that Fender Stratocaster instead. The dude abides, or so I've heard.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 05:06 PM
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Oh yeah. I'm reading it right now. All the similarities...It's quite astonishing. Human nature really doesn't change much.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 04:16 PM
20

Well, it was fun while it lasted. Smoke if em if you got em and enjoy the decline.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 12:03 PM
3

Welcome! Check out LiberationY on youtube!
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 09:17 PM
2

If you want to build a bridge, would you hire a hobbyist engineer, or an engineer with a degree? Most likely you would choose the engineer with a degree. The one with a degree likely knows his field a lot better than the one without a degree. It's the same principle when you construct a philosophical argument. It's not that different with philosophy. Western philosophy goes back over 2500 years. There is a long, rich tradition there. We don't have to re-invent it on our own. We take what we lear…
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 02:39 PM
3

Yeah, pretty much.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 02:00 PM
2

Oh well, cheers.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 01:53 PM
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You do what they did in Soviet union 40 years ago: In public you believe the official party line; That women are both oppressed and equal at the same time. Workers paradise is real! 2 + 2 = 42! Equality over everything. In private you believe what you really believe, and live your life. But in public you believe what you are supposed to believe. Be a good citizen, part of the nomenclature.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 12:25 PM
1

Does he really? Last I checked he has a degree in History (his podcasts on history are far more interesting). You still get general know-how and tools by doing a degree in philosophy. They make you go through courses and books in ethics, ontology, metaphysics and so on.. A hobbyist doesn't have to go through those books, or learn about those areas. So it helps. I'm sure there are great hobbyist engineers as well, but you do get useful tools by going through an official engineering program. It's …
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 11:46 AM
12

I've seen the video, but it's not just the women, it's also the men raised by women that are the problem. Most of my male friends are basically progressives. If you push them hard enough to see what their core political beliefs are, you will realize that these people have had it too good, for too long. I think our values reflect our material conditions. Most of the European progressives think, that every problem is solved through having the right (kind, gentle) values: We just need to increase t…
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 08:29 AM
4

Well, I said it before; Molyneux is a pseudo philosopher. He doesn't actually have a degree in philosophy. It often shows. His own book on ethics doesn't really cut the mustard. It's written like the author is more of an enthusiastic hobbyist than a professional philosopher. Nothing wrong with that per say, but it's worth keeping in mind. I'd take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt. The worst part in my opinion is, that he seems to be very influential with young people and he lives off o…
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 08:03 AM
1

Yeah. That would be my bet as well. Also considering that there are no jobs either....
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 08:42 PM
1

I know. I'm just pointing out that there are always consequences. There will be consequences to letting in all these migrants/refugees as well. We just haven't seen what those consequences will be yet. This could lead to all kinds of horrible things down the line. In fact I am betting that it will. Why are they young men? Good question. We are asking the same question. It seems that our governments look at them as potential taxpayers, not as potential troublemakers. That's how crazy its gotten h…
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 06:45 PM
1

It was the bombs that drove them out of their homes into Europe. It was our governments that opened the borders. US government bombs them. EU governments points a gun on to our heads and says: " Guess what? You're now going to be altruistic, or else." So, something came out of it, alright.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 01:07 PM
3

Something came out of it alright. In fact I am seeing the results of it all the way up here in Northern Europe. They call it "the refugee crisis".
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 09:04 AM
2

One thing about us humans is, that we don't come with a pre-made purpose in life. A knife that was manufactured in a factory, came with a pre-made purpose; To cut things. We humans are condemned to freedom. Most people get angst and get depressed because of this: This freedom and lack of clear purpose seems too much. So they will jump on to the first thing that makes this freedom go away: Marriage and family: There! I have a purpose! I no longer have to think of this horrible thing called existe…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 06:00 PM
1

Well, I've been a MGTOW for about 15 years. I was surprised to find out that there were others like me. Who saw the world roughly the same way I do. It wasn't just me after all.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 10:13 AM
1

I don't think devout, religious people have tattoos. Or they had them before they converted. Tattoos seem to be a secular thing. Maybe not among modern Christians though.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 09:51 AM
3

She agrees that society is fucked up with the whole court-case bias, the institution of marriage, dating conventions; she even agrees that many women are manipulative. They are fickle. They can genuinely, honestly, with all their heart believe in one thing one moment, and then change on you and disregard what they believed before. On top of that the problem is at a cultural level: If your culture teaches you that it is OK to exploit other people and get away with it, then it's game over. You can…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 09:48 AM
2

It's a really cool shirt.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 09:40 AM
6

I can give you one pragmatic advice on how to distance yourself from certain people: Wear Heavy Metal T-shirts. Something with an atheist theme on it. Slayer has a lot's of those types of shirts. (God hates us all...You know that type of stuff...)That should give a signal that you're not religious. I don't know what you young whipper snappers listen to these days, so find something similar to Slayer. I don't think a devout Muslim would wear a Slayer T-shirt. I'm sure you can figure something out…
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 10:31 PM
11

Yeah. There's lot's of lefties and former lefties that are sick and tired of feminism.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 09:38 PM
38

Yeah, well I was pretty much a left wing guy, before the SJW's and feminists took it over. After that it was; ”You know what? Fuck it. I'm done with this too. Enjoy the decline.” Just saying that MGTOW's come from all over the political spectrum and all over the world. This isn't limited to certain section of the population.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 06:37 PM
2

Some novels that made an impact: -The Stranger, Albert Camus -The Fall, Albert Camus -Plague, Albert Camus -Nausea, Jean-Paul Sartre -The Wall, Jean-Paul Sartre -Seducers Diary, Sören Kierkegaard -Notes from the Undergound, Dostojevsky -Crime and Punishment, Dostojevsky -The Trial, Franz Kafka -Sinuhe The Egyptian, Waltari -Molloy, Samuel Beckett Philosophers that I found helpful/useful: Jea-Paul Sartre (Being and Nothingness), Martin Heidegger (Being and Time) , Sören Kierkegaard (lot's of book…
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 04:35 PM
1

It's so bad that I can't tell the difference between reality and satire any more. How do the guys at Onion still keep going on?
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 02:32 PM
1

It's not worth it. Save your money for that Tokai guitar. You will enjoy it a lot more. 20 years later it will look a lot better than that girl too. Spend more time with your mates. You'll miss them once they are gone and once they are married. Those times will never come back.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 08:06 PM
6

Who knew that oppression Olympics would backfire like this? gasp
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 09:29 AM
1

The anti-social media is certainly a part of it. You're right. There is definitely a narrative in operation in Europe though. You get it almost as through cultural osmosis; People here believe in progress the way they used to believe in God and Christianity. Economic and technological progress will deliver us endless goods, it's just a matter of tinkering with the political system to ensure that our Star Trek future will happen. That's what most middle class people here believe in. If you stick …
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 12:15 PM
1

The writer Daniel Quinn, basically was asking the same questions. Why is it so hard to walk away from a civilization that obviously doesn't really function anymore? Even the stories we tell ourselves (Disney) make no sense anymore. Most people seem to latch on to this sinking ship even tighter, as it keeps going down (looking at trad-cons and white nationalists). There's some mystery involving the collapse of Maya civilization apparently. One explanation is, that they simply said; ”Fuck it. I ai…
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 12:50 PM
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I think they want to cut the bond that the man had with them. I mean now the bond for them is a nuisance that they want to be rid of.
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 05:18 PM
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The ideological root of SJW's comes from Michel Foucault and Postmodernism. Foucault argued that power is everywhere: It's in the discourses, institutions, language... etc etc... Post modernism in general is very much at the heart of SJW's. You can in turn track the ideology back to it's roots in France. Their intellectual classes started to go insane a couple of decades a go. It was an effort by the French intellectuals to appear more relevant than they were. So they used big mumbo jumbo words …
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 10:32 AM
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I don't see the mass migration as a shit test per say. I see it as a desperate hail Mary pass by western governments as they try to save their pension systems. The West really is a ponzi scheme in many ways. It needs constant economic growth and population growth to keep it's systems from collapsing. But that doesn't mean that various faction within the west don't play politics with mass migration, I mean they all clearly do it. The feminists, the greens and the communists think they can use thi…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 04:19 PM
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...she confessed to me that she'd slept with 15 men in the previous year and felt horrible about. Naturally, I married her” There's your problem.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 07:42 PM
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It's mostly about hedonistic pleasure; ”I'm young. Why shouldn't I enjoy my youth and have a great time?” But it is also about resentment towards men: ”Well why shouldn't I be allowed to have as much sex as men? Why are the men celebrated for having multiple partners? It's sexism! I should be allowed to have as much sex as men and also get married at 31. It's what all the men are doing too”. It's this natural resentment towards boys(men) and solipsism running amok. It's the feminine collective t…
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 01:54 PM
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When I was younger I felt the same way as you. Chalk it up to being a young idealist, ready to change the world for the better. I have progressive friends who still believe that some kind of utopia is possible, we just need the right attitudes, or what ever. I think they are in deep denial, because the truth is too depressing for them. But at some point you have to take a sober look at the world. In my 41 years of being on the planet, all the problems plaguing humanity have simply gotten worse, …
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 01:18 PM
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Yes. And I also think that passionate love can turn into a compassionate love. Ultimately it would be the near perfect thing. But in a culture that chases hedonistic short term pleasures, this transition is no longer really possible. People don't value these types of things that we used to value so many decades a go. So the culture keeps getting more hedonistic and short term oriented, as it tries to fill the void with temporary pleasures. → Mass consumerism, mass entertainment, endless sex. So …
/r/MGTOW16/03/17 10:25 AM
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Yes, but differently than men. They wish to be desired by desirable men. Love as something that she could consume, that could thrill her. - That type of thing. I think that women love very differently than men, and desire different type of love. Hence, the exciting bad boy. Not, really no. Being needy, clingy and showing weakness repulse most of them. But there are of course other types of emotions. With time that desire for romantic, passionate love goes away (ironically this is where modern wo…
/r/MGTOW15/03/17 11:08 PM
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Well, Edward Gibbons made it pretty clear that Marcus Aurelius wife, Faustina, was basically banging other guys behind his back. And if that wasn't enough, she even made Emperor Aurelius promote Faustinas lovers. So, being the wife of the Emperor of Rome wasn't enough for Faustina. It wasn't enough for her to fuck around either, but she even made her husband promote her lovers.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 10:37 PM
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True. Yeah, I guess they do believe that they can somehow overturn capitalism, once things get bad enough. I think it's a fools hope and more likely scenario is that things will just keep getting worse and worse. Besides, there is no guarantee that the next system after capitalism will be any better. If I had to guess, then my bet is that it will be much worse. If they do manage to collapse capitalism, then things might just stay collapsed for a long time. Dark ages. One of the major problems in…
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 12:22 AM
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Well sadly you are 100% correct. The working poor end up paying for all these ”progressive” policies, until they can't. Is it any wonder then that people like Trump get elected? You also described my progressive friends to a t. They are university educated, unemployed and underemployed. I mean they have this endless sympathy for the refugees and migrants, but none for their own working poor. It's really sad what has happened to the progressive movements these days. They can't see that the bottom…
/r/MGTOW05/03/17 04:46 PM
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Well if these trollops are upset now, can you imagine how pissed off they will be when the welfare state collapses? I mean in the near future, there will be a Somali family living in Sweden or Finland with 8 kids who can't pay their electricity bill because the government can't give them money. Is the father going to be upset about that? Then factor in what kind of skills he has to ”rectify” the situation, and you can see the potential for absolute chaos. And since the government can't pay other…
/r/MGTOW05/03/17 11:02 AM
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Bwahahah! Granted, I'm no expert, but I think she might be doing the Islam thing wrong. But I am sure she will come to enjoy the many freedoms and liberties that Islam grants it's followers.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 01:05 PM
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There is a downside, or darker side to all human systems. That includes capitalism as well. I mean there is this sleazy, hustling side to it all, but on the other hand I would never ever want to live in a Communist system. I mean I like private property just fine. I sell stuff on the market place and all that, but still it's never perfect. I'm sure that the next system, what ever it will be, will have it's uglier side as well. We are humans after all. Everything we do reflects that. There's no u…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 12:56 PM
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Codweiner Bird has some positive and good MGTOW videos. liberationY as well, in a sense. That is, if you find freedom to be a liberating thing. That seems to be their core message.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 03:47 PM
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Yeah I also think that the technological widgets will mask the decline for a while, but long term..I think we are going down, so to speak. The overall trend is downwards.
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 07:05 PM
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It seems to me, that one of the main concerns of the EU has been nationalism. In order for the union to work (in their minds) we needed to forge a new European identity. Something not based on nation states. I mean they have been pretty open about this. And maybe not without a justification; We have had our horrific past with nationalism. So I'm sure the eggheads at the EU thought that if they could bring about this new European identity, everything would be hunky dory. But it looks as if what i…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 04:40 PM
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It's a good example in my mind. Once you start paying attention to things like this, you start to notice that entropy has already set in. In a lot of ways it is getting ever more difficult just to maintain things the way they are (or were).
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 04:24 PM
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Yeah, exactly. Yuri Bezmenov (spelling?) said that in reality, once the communist come into power, the first thing they do, is kill all the Marxist academics. Why? -Because the academics would realize that they will not get the power that they want , and then they would become the new critics of the Marxist system.It's pretty funny, in a horrifying way.
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 04:19 PM
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Cheers!
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 03:03 PM
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Where did they get the idea that they are oppressed? They literally got that idea from Karl Marx. Marx thought that history was about the proletariat getting oppressed by the lords of the Capital. And that the historical duty of the proletariat was to overthrow the masters. Now the feminists flipped the script and changed the proletariat to females. It literally was that simple. The problem of course was that Marx got his ideas from Hegel (just perverted them to suit his own needs) and feminists…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 03:02 PM
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Yeah, Laura Perrins is going to ”fight these Islamic scumbags again and win.” You know what? That's a great idea Laura. Why don't you lead the charge noble lady? I'll just stay right here, out of your way and drink beer.
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 12:53 PM
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I think we will see more of what is happening already: Berkeley riots, crimes, no-go zones in places in Europe where there used to be none, terrorism, political chaos, crazy ideologies (feminism)...etc etc.... When the history books are written, they'll say that in France and other places civil wars started somewhere around 2010 (meaning they are already going on, but people don't think of it that way yet.). We'll have problems with currency and energy as well. So all in all, a very chaotic futu…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 11:55 AM
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None of my friends go to bars or any other places to meet women. They are all under 40. I mean we don't even talk about women any more. This forum is probably the only place where I talk about women, or even think about them any more. Heh. I think the last time I was in a bar was almost 10 years ago. I guess some of the younger guys here might think that going Monk is extreme, when in fact it's almost like a natural thing for a man to do after a while. At least it feels that way to me. I guess y…
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 08:10 PM
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You're ruining our movement! XD
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 01:51 PM
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It's mostly about crushing wages. Import cheap labor from outside → fuck you to European blue-collar workers. The feminists in my country are already trying to use this thing as a way to extract more resources from the state. I mean they even write articles about how ”power, resources and heroism” now get's redistributed because of the migrant crisis. I mean they are very open about their agenda. But this is blowing up on everyone's faces. The migrants (most of them) can't even read or write in …
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 02:37 PM
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I don't think there is this grand cosmological revenge that women will have to face. But on the other hand, they do get to live in the world that they have created. It's a more subtle type of thing. I think the women's march actually kinda reflected his; There is this general anxiety among women, that something has gone terribly wrong. But they can't quite put their finger on it. I mean this is the chaotic world that they demanded for themselves and now they get to live in it.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 01:10 PM
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SpaceX SpaceX eh? Well it's one of those subsidy dumpsters headed by Elon Musk. Take away the state funding and watch how far those rockets will get you. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html The point being is, that innovation still happens, but it gets more costly. A lot of the people who are doing innovation are also miling the state for subsidies.
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 03:39 PM
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There are limits to everything. There are no infinite lifespans. For example, The people who freeze their bodies in hopes of being resurrected at a later date, already assume that the institutions and countries that store their bodies are immortal. No countries or institutions have ever lasted. Nothing here lasts for ever. Even those robots need to be powered up and we probably hit peak oil production globally in year 2005. That's one of the reasons the global economy is such a mess. The cheap e…
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 03:19 PM
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Science will never be in a crisis. Only bullshit artistry from social sciences increasingly is. Well Edmund Husserl would certainly disagree with your line of reasoning. More to the point, western science is already headed towards crisis. The low haning fruit (electricity for example) has already been plucked, so now it requires more and more resources just to innovate. Jospeh Tainter agrees also. Funding thinsg like particle accelerators will become increasingly difficult as the state funds sta…
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 02:40 PM
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There was an article on Truth dig (I think) that stated that many (40% is I recall) of the psychological tests fail when re-tested. Imagine that in any other field of science. ”Whoops. Well I guess this calculation didn't work today then. Never mind, lets build the car anyway!” So we are essentially dealing with bunk science. I know the psychological department in my university is trying to be very reductionist: ”Oh something happened in the brain when some stimuli was introduced..Isn't that int…
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 12:02 PM
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Agreed. It's much better if they think of us as losers. Easier to go unnoticed.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 11:58 AM
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More thoughts on the confirmation bias: Usually when we look at the world our ego is kind of involved. We tend to look at the world in terms of how we wish it to be. We have our hopes and aspirations involved. I think most men have an ego that thinks and hopes that women will love him. To look at the world without this ego and hope, is kind of going against that natural bias that we have. That's not to say that we shouldn't critically think about our position as well, but to me it seems that the…
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 09:58 PM
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Yeah. Middle aged women especially do this. As if there needed to be an extra reason to stay the hell away from them.
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 09:31 PM
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Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man . - Nietzsche When I think of the possibility of a NAWALT, it seems to suggest to me that the idea behind her is, that there is something wrong with the average woman, the AWALT. In fact nothing could be further from the truth in my mind. She has done a hell of a job over populating the planet and following her biological imperative, and we helped her along just fine. Most men's lot in life is to be fucked over by …
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 06:53 PM
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It's a great game! :D
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 05:59 PM
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Paul Proteus has some excellent videos on youtube.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 12:50 AM
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Yeah, I know. Some of the more ”conservative” women in my country are already starting to sing that song : ”Why did the men let those immigrants here? They should be out there controlling the borders, like those Easter European men do..:” etc etc... Yeah they are getting out their white feathers again.
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 08:26 PM
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Well...How many women actually die in traffic accidents and plane crashes per year? I suspect the numbers are very high. According to this logic then we should ban all airplanes and cars, and instead bring in more immigrants. It's insane, but this is the shit we have to deal in Europe as well. I mean these women are slitting their own throats. The European an American men simply can not feed, clothe and house all these immigrants The systems are running out of tax money, and these all women have…
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 02:08 PM
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I was angry when I was younger, sure. But that anger does go away. By the time I was 30 and woman approached me I was only slightly annoyed, because I knew what they were like: ”It wants something from me? What does it want now?” Women always want something from a man. It's merely annoying now, so I try and avoid them as much as possible. It's like Paul Proteus says: He doesn't look women as 10's or 9's, instead he looks women as 50, or 60. That's how many hours per week you would have to work t…
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 11:17 AM
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A lot of those women were feminist when they were young. They were just as bad as the younger woman of today.
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 09:53 PM
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It's pretty funny actually. One of the websites I visit has all these NAWALTS suddenly emerging from out of nowhere. They are informing men in the comments section that they were victims of cultural Marxists, who bedeviled the women. There was this mischievous plot to destroy families, but fear not! The women were innocent victims of it all! You should welcome them with open arms back. We must now unite and boldly fight against feminism! Our innocent women were victims of it all... Hahahah! This…
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 07:56 PM
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I'm an existentialist (one of the last remaining). I think man's freedom is the most valuable thing he has. You can't give your freedom away to the state or to the woman and live an authentic life. It's an impossibility. I also think that this current materialistic, nihilistic European way of life, is no way for a man to live. Our culture is sick and dying. They have us serving corporate overlords at work, woman at home and our only escape is alcohol and TV. Fuck that type of life! That's not li…
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 07:01 PM
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I listen to stuff like Slayer, Sepultura, Tool and Pantera. No mushy love songs.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 11:55 AM
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You have to also understand that almost all of that romantic stuff was actually written by men. Romance is a male fantasy. I was a romantic as well when I was young. The thing that cured me of all of those romantic ideas, was getting a Finnish girlfriend. I mean there is no creature on earth that is more mundane and unromantic than your western woman. I was bored out of my skull being with her. I still rather like romance fantasy to this day, but it is no more real than ”The Force” or ”Mines of …
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 01:12 AM
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Lack of empathy is a bad sign. Talk to her. Explain how she hurt you. Oh yeah, that will work.
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 10:25 PM
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They have also outsourced a lot of good paying, value added jobs as well. As a result the tax base has shrunk considerably all over the western world. (Except maybe for Germany). They have flooded the markets with cheap consumer goods, and low wage jobs. But those jobs aren't enough to keep a welfare state going. There's simply not enough high paying jobs to tax. You can't keep a welfare state running by taxing wall-mart greeters. So we will hit a brick wall. The European debt crisis (not solved…
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 10:47 AM
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I think there's probably some pretty powerful psychological forces at play, judging by the venomous reaction you got. I think there is this fear among the people that the bottom is falling out of the society and that they might be next to fall. So there's a lot of anger and denial about how we got to this point. On some level it's pretty painful for the guys as well to come to terms with the fact, that the era of beta-bux droning is coming to an end, and they wont be able to attract a partner th…
/r/MGTOW24/01/17 12:25 PM
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You do realize that you'd need huge amounts of cheap and abundant energy to run this New World. The problem is, that energy doesn't want to stay cheap nor abundant. Robots will become a lot more expensive to manufacture and run in the future. It's a lot less expensive to flood your country with cheap labor from the 3rd world. They will be your "robots" of the future. If you can maintain law and order, that is. "All eyes on Germany and Sweden."
/r/MGTOW22/01/17 08:56 PM
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The Muslim migrants have no money or power that the vaginasty can extract. Trump does. The state does. They don't protest against the rapists because they can't get any money or power out of them.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 04:02 PM
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Yeah, and the head of the IMF is Christine Lagarde. Some patriarchy we have, huh?
/r/MGTOW20/01/17 02:59 PM
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Haha! That would be fun.
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 06:38 PM
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Not really, no. But relationshits are even less worth it the older you get. Relationshits are less stressful (potentially) when you are young. The older the girls get, the more trouble they are. I mean they will cheat on you even when they are younger, but when they are older they also hunt for wallets and expect a lot more from the man.
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 06:38 PM
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What is it that PUA's say?..Hmm..Oh yeah! ”Agree and amplify!” If your ego can take it, then you can act really beta and needy. ”Oh I can't find a girlfriend..Woe is me..:!” Etc etc... I often go that route and act all like a shy, needy, clingy beta. Usually my female family members then start taking pity on me;” Oh don't worry Darth! I'm sure you'll find your fish soon enough. There's a special kind of fish waiting for you. I am sure of it..” After that, they leave me alone. They don't realize …
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 04:18 PM
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Yeah. The script really flips in midlife. Now these aging spinsters are chasing men and yet they have literally nothing to offer.
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 02:56 PM
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I think hypergamy works just fine in a kind of Hobbesian state of nature situation, where you are rewarded by following you instincts. Short term rewards outweigh long term rewards, since there might not even be a long term at all. But in a civilization phase, unleashing hypergamy to the extend that it has been done in the west, is basically too chaotic to build anything long term. You can't really have a family if the woman is constantly looking for an upgrade. So unleashed hypergamy basically …
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 02:45 PM
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No. No temptation what so ever. Besides there really are no women that are marriage material. Especially at my age (40) the women tend to be pretty horrible. Single mothers, former cock carousel riders and emotionally unstable women...etc etc..
/r/MGTOW18/01/17 02:45 PM
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Great blog posts. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 12:09 PM
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True enough. Boomers had that as well to deal with.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 02:30 AM
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Curious. Same thing happened in my social circle as well; One day they started talking about gender roles in video games and how poor Anita Sarkeezian was getting death threats.. Things like that. ”What on earth? Why is that stuff so important to you? Gender roles in video games..I guess we better run to the barricades then!”
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 12:59 AM
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Yeah. I only hope men aren't fooled by that "feminism made us do it" - mantra. There's a deadly siren song if I ever heard one. But women are getting ready to sing it regardless. That's why all these "anti-feminist" women are making videos on youtube.
/r/MGTOW16/01/17 10:17 PM
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Well younger men are angry and rightfully so. I mean the western world is a mess, so they are looking for the ones that fucked it all up. I can understand their anger, but there wasn't really much us old geezers could do about any of this. The world had already embraced feminism by the time we were going to college. No one man can really change the arch of history. Most of us just muddle through life the best we can.
/r/MGTOW16/01/17 10:12 PM
2

Heheh. Moi.
/r/MGTOW16/01/17 11:40 AM
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Suomi, Finland, Perkele!. Terve!
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 08:29 PM
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What are you talking about? What male fantasy? I just said leave them be. I know my English is hardly perfect, but I didn't write anything about going out there and somehow ”saving women”. Quite the opposite. There is nothing to save here. This is what they wanted. I just said to enjoy a beer and watch the decline. There's nothing to be done here. I don't have any illusions about any of this. The economy will continue to get worse and women will blame men for it. They are already doing it. I mea…
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 01:46 AM
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I don't think European leaders want to push us into war, quite the opposite. I think they are scared shitless of the potential backlash. Some people in power realize that all these bank bailouts, mass migrations, refugee crisis..etc have pissed off the populations of Europe. So the leaders are doing everything they can to keep a lid on this. But it only makes it worse. The more they censor news papers and social media, the more people will know that something is really wrong here. This has just …
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 12:23 AM
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I suppose so. It just left an impression to me when I was a kid. it was so obvious even at that age what was going on.
/r/MGTOW13/01/17 10:56 PM
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It's a pretty common ”scam” in Finland as well. A lot of landwhales and post wall women have refugee/migrant boyfriends. The boyfriends are usually a decade younger than the women. They ”treat the woman like they should be treated”. In other words; They act as if these women are still desirable. The women fall for this scam, or don't really give a shit as long as they have a good time. Once the men get Finnish citizenship, they dump the woman. Then they start collecting social welfare. I saw thi…
/r/MGTOW13/01/17 06:44 PM
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Yeah it's a great book. I don't know what feminism used to be, but what I see around me is a cult that just wants to burn the world.
/r/MGTOW13/01/17 02:43 PM
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There have been these crazy cults around throughout history. And that's what feminism basically is to me; A crazy cult that's gone political. I mean there was this cult of Dionysus in Greece. There was one in Egypt and multiple in Rome. There was this whole theme in Greece; Apollonian (represents reason, and I think masculine) vs the Dionysian (impulsive, feminine). I guess the pressure of living under rules and laws gets to some people, so they need an outlet. I think that's what the cult of Di…
/r/MGTOW13/01/17 02:15 PM
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People are going broke all over the western world. Women included. You have to also remember that a lot of these women are carrying a huge student debt loads from their worthless degrees. So they are looking for men as a bailout. Everyone is broke. I read that half the municipalities in Germany (of all places) are technically bankrupt. The point being, is that everyone now has a hand in someones pocket. Everyone is looking for a bailout or a handout. But most people have no money. The states hav…
/r/MGTOW11/01/17 03:32 PM
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Same here. I have a pretty easy life to boot. I work fairly little and spend a lot of time pursuing things that interest me. I see my country going to shit, but I don't have to worry about it much, since I don't have any kids who will have to live here after I'm gone.
/r/MGTOW11/01/17 12:31 PM
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It's what George Carlin said; They want obedient workers. Just smart enough to do what they are told, but dumb enough not to question why. Women tend to go with the flow; Don't rock the boat. I mean, they are almost perfect drones for corporations. They just tend to be a bit lazy and spend a lot of time gossiping, but other than that perfect for the corporate culture.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 04:55 PM
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Our political and media elites in Finland are very much into multi-culturalism. They sort of go over board with it, so they do stuff like this for self congratulatory reasons: ”Oh look at us, how tolerant we are! Unlike those regular Finnish smucks!” It's what the French sociologist Bourdieu observed about upper classes: They have this need for distinction; They wish to show they are different from the the regular unwashed masses. Our upper class does this by vigorously supporting multi-cultural…
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 04:30 PM
2

I guess every once in a while people like to impose their way onto all MGTOW's, with predictable results. It's about going your own way. You figure out what works for you. I'm a MGTOW Monk myself. It works for me, but I realize it doesn't work for everyone. Some men desire sex a lot and don't want to live without it. It's fine, but do be careful. I mean we live in a day and age where false rape accusations happen and all kinds of swindles are being hatched by the governments to extract wealth fr…
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 01:42 PM
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Without even watching the video more than 5 seconds all I can say is, it's peak feminism. I mean they had their fun, the cash cow is getting empty. Now it's time to switch to the side that still has resources. Some of the more clever females can sniff which way the wind is blowing and adapt before the rest. That's all. We will have more anti-feminist women and even MGTOW groupies from here on end. They will pour honey in our ears, because feminism as a movement has done about all it can do. They…
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 02:11 PM
1

Cheers. His novels are worth reading too. He is an excellent writer. The Fall and Stranger are one of the best novels ever written in the western world IMO.
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 02:29 PM
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Good for you. Albert Camus is a great writer and a thinker. He is very lucid and easy to read, unlike other western thinkers. If any MGTOW's are struggling with finding a purpose in life, I recommend reading Camus essay's.
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 10:56 AM
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Look. This type of centralized power and out of control feminism is only possible during the good times. In a lot of ways our current system runs on abundant, cheap energy. The reason you didn't have huge, global governments any time in human history before, is because there really wasn't the infrastructure there. Rome was large, but it wasn't really global. Britain was the first empire that tried to go global, because it had that infrastructure and energy for a while. Guess what? There won't be…
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 10:35 AM
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Very incoherent rambling that basically boils down to: Men should do more. That's it! And that's what they have been saying now for decades. No introspection, no looking critically at the society and modern women: Men just simply should do more regardless of, well... regardless period! With each passing day I think I understand the Herbivore men better and better. It's simply pointless to even point out problems to these women. You might as well debate a brick wall. Better to just leave the bric…
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 06:03 PM
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It's similar to psychology of previous investment type of thing. I mean a lot of guys have invested a lot of their time and resources into a woman, and that investment is losing value year by year. So when they are around a guy who didn't make that investment, they don't like to be reminded about it. So, they would like you to make that dumb investment as well. It's basically that simple. If everyone invests in a worthless thing, then that worthless thing looks like it has some value. And modern…
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 04:28 PM
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Well you're in good company with that theory; Arthur Schopenhauer (German philosopher)essentially said the same thing.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:57 PM
2

What do we do guise?!?! Women today control the fucking world. The west is heading towards a dystopian socialist women-led society. Birth rates are at its lowest thanks to the state feeding women, we're being infested by an alien culture that surely will have democratic majorities within 35-50 years! When are we gonna say enough is enough! I know MGTOW is about going our own way, but the collapse of western societies as we know it, enlightenment values, free speech, use of fucking reason to dete…
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 02:33 PM
2

Cheers. My brother is a programmer and even though the money is good, his life is very busy.
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 11:08 AM
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Oh yeah. I'm pretty much the same way, except I don't even belong to the lower middle class. I voluntarily dropped out of it and I technically live under the poverty line currently. I'm a Monk and a ghost. I work about 4 hours per day and the rest of the time I read, write, exercise, study history and philosophy, make 3d models, take walks and even sometimes play videogames. I don't really need more money at all. Most of my countrymen (I'd like to spell it cuntry) are stressed out, depressed, wo…
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 12:52 AM
1

Cheers mate. Yeah, I suspect it's the same all over the industrialized (or post industrial) world by now. Men are relegated to worker drone role and the women dominate the household. I was trying to explain it to this dude, but he keeps on fuming and ranting about how men are responsible and how he has no symphathy. On the one had, it's almost like the feminist argument all over again; But this time men are also responsible for the behavior of women as well. Societies change. Not always for the …
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 07:12 PM
2

I have no clue what your problem with me is, or if you have some kind of bone to pick with me. And I couldn't really care less. I tried to give an sociological explanation to all of this, but it seems you really are having none of it. Fair enough. That's not my problem. Nobody cares about your lack of pity either. The world is full of internet tough guys. I tried to explain why your type of gung ho individualism isn't going to work, but hey, you're welcome to try it yourself. Be Alpha bro, and a…
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 10:49 AM
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No one here is asking for your pity. Societies are what they are. I tried to give an explenation as to what was going on. That's about all I can do. (That and not give a shit) Cultures and societies change. One day you wake up and relize that the country has changed. You don't even know what the right thing to do is anynore. Change is not always for the better. Wasn't that great before the women took it over either. Plenty of North Americans are also quietly suffering just the same way as I desc…
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 12:35 AM
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It's easy for an outsider to say ”grow some balls”. I mean it's the entire culture itself. Same as in Japan, I imagine. People live it, breath it and don't generally think there is anything wrong with it. Men just drink themselves to death here, but people don't know why. Women took over the households when our country industrialized itself. They turned their children against the husbands and a couple of decades later, here we are. A lot of men don't even realize that they could grow some balls.…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 11:22 PM
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The other day while I was doing some shopping for groceries, I noticed an old man and her daughter at the entrance to the shop. The old man was in his late 70's judging by his looks and leaning on some ski poles. It's a thing older men do here often; When their legs start to give in, they use ski poles for balance. The daughter wouldn't even let the guy into the shop. She was hounding and nagging him like crazy. My heart sunk. Poor guy. Can't even do some shopping in his old age. The daughter wo…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 08:32 PM
4

It's funny how feminists, especially Nordic feminists seem to get really excited about Islam. They see Muslims as some kind of political ally in their fight against patriarchy. Amusing.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 09:43 PM
2

It's consumer logic. Man as a happiness producing unit; If one is defunct, switch for a new one. Switch men like you switch lip-gloss.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 02:28 PM
14

I love how this is presented as some sort of journey of self discovery and discovery of earth shattering new wisdom: ”Not acting like a bitch makes interaction with other people easier..Hmm hmm..” Yeah better write it down, so you won't forget. Man, who knew these life lessons could get so complicated?
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 12:58 PM
10

Godspeed young man!
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 12:16 AM
3

Boldly fighting against feminism with a piece of a paper. Gotta love slacktivism.
/r/MGTOW02/12/16 09:32 PM
2

Feminists love the attention and drama, like all women do. So one way to get attention is to be annoying. That's why they dye their hairs in bright colors as well. I mean feminists tend to be very ugly, so they don't get normal male attention, so they settle for negative attention. That's why they always try to push your buttons as well; To get some of that sweet, sweet drama.
/r/MGTOW02/12/16 09:28 PM
4

I think he was knocking at the MGTOW door. Not quite there yet. But moving into that direction. I think that pedo angle in the movie was distasteful, but on the other hand he did not pursue it in the end. So he was moving beyond chasing younger girls as well.
/r/MGTOW02/12/16 05:26 PM
5

Cheers
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 10:20 PM
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Exactamundo! It's like what Hegel writes in a famous passage :” What is a master without his slave?” What exactly is he a master of without his slave? The same applies to modern women; Without a man, what is she? More to the point; - What is she without the labor of men? Without the roads, the hospitals, the indoor plumbing, the office jobs, the husband...so on and so forth. On some level our society knows this, but can't admit it because then the whole edifice would come crashing down.
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 02:33 PM
1

What it truly comes down to is becoming happy and finding natural happiness, which lays beyond the shitty muds of social and political correctness. Watch the world burn while having a nice drink! Yeah. In a sense this is nothing new. I'm reminded of Taoism; Many of their wise masters would ditch politics as well, and just live a life more in accordance to nature and Tao. I mean the world is filled with all kinds of hopeless causes that men are supposed to die for. Ironicaly the world seems to be…
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 01:45 PM
11

It was different for me. I was never a feminist. I grew up in a feminist household. My God, it was fucking crazy. But it didn't get any better at school. When I was in high school the whole class room had like 30 feminist teenagers there and they were using me as target practice for their ”bold fight against patriarchy!”. It was just me and some Chad Sexington dude vs 30 teenaged feminists. I was a teenager. How much ”structural patriarchal” oppressing can a teenaged kid even do? And sure enough…
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 03:35 PM
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Well, there is so many aspects to it. I think Nietzsches slave morality – master morality illuminates our predicament very well. So how do the weak take over a nation? They can't do it by force, so they have to use some other means. - Well morality is the key. You make sure that your morals become dominant in the society. In our case ever people have adopted feminist morals and value systems. Men today think a hell of a lot differently than men did just 50 years a go. We think that our value sys…
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 02:53 PM
3

Yeah, I'm not optimistic either. Neither do I have any illusions about Islam. I just think that people tend to get more radical when the hard times hit them. So you might see even more secular Muslim men get pissed off and start looking for different answers when they can't get a job.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 12:05 AM
5

What really worries me about this situation in Europe is, that we couldn't integrate these people into our societies even during the good times. So what happens now, when the economy is in the toilet and people are getting angry? Usually politicians take the countries to war after economic implosions. So lot's of young European men might end up dying and fighting against young Muslim male immigrants. European women will egg them on ”on our side” (save the wimmins!) and radical clerics will manip…
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:54 PM
13

Yeah. It's almost funny how modern women have decided that men are these ”happiness producing units”. If one fails at this task, then you simply find a new one. I mean this is weird, perverted, consumer logic. It can't apply to human beings.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 01:04 PM
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Even if I took what these women say seriously, there would still be a major problem; Namely one person can not be responsible for other person's happiness. Life simply doesn't work that way. You can't ”outsource” your happiness to some one else. No one else can be ontologically responsible for what makes you happy. If you can't make yourself happy, then you will be miserable the rest of your life.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 10:37 AM
4

There was an article I read about a year a go, that stated that almost half of all the psychological experiments failed when they were re-tested. Almost half. So, that leads me to believe that modern psychology is close to being junk science.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 10:06 AM
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I'm not saying, ”let's avoid blame”. I'm just not interested in somehow trying to fix, or cure the situation. I don't think that's possible. I also think as a social scientist, that tracking down the birth of feminism (or female emancipation, or current gender relations) into singular events is basically impossible and unfruitful. They may give you some insights, but the picture usually is much larger. When it comes to societal change, things are more complicated than locking down a patient zero…
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:58 AM
1

There are some reports (I think i was the Hirsch report) that indicate that we hit global peak oil in 2005. In 2007 the banking system started to croak as a result. That's why we have things like fracking now. The peak oil is playing out in front of our eyes right now, is my guess. I think you are correct that the consumption is related to women. I know that we can't extrapolate much from single experience, but since I am not chasing women myself, my consumption rates are very low. I don't even …
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:49 AM
1

Actually most of them (flyover land) didn't, it was mainly just the (already somewhat wacky) ones on LawnGuyLand, the Jewish neurotic ones in the Beltway, and the fruitloopy ones out on the left coast Tracking down patient zero doesn't matter anymore. The damage has already been done to the western world. Nah, they didn't HAVE to --and the cause wasn't really peak US oil either - It doesn't really matter any more. A lot of these things correlate with US peak oil. It's not the same as causation, …
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 08:14 PM
9

I'm not looking to date anybody any longer. I will live the rest of my life as a single. The problem also with foreign women is, that once you bring them to the west, the Pandora box might open. It's our whole western culture that's the problem now. Plus, as Paul Proteus puts it, hypergamy floats. So you bring her in here, and all of a sudden she will start looking at all the other males she thinks she might have a chance with. Also the laws are on her side, so should she decide to act on her hy…
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 07:22 PM
5

Sure they are easier, but there's no point in trying to start a family with a 30 year old woman. Especially with a 30 year old western woman.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 07:02 PM
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Well yeah. The women went bonkers first, when the machines replaced their household work. They also had to push women into the labor force after the US hit peak oil in the 70's. More people working to offset the rising energy costs. More tax money for the governments. But it wasn't all that easy for men either. I think a lot of us have had to deal with trying to find a meaning in a world, that seems devoid of meaning and purpose. The machines have replaced us men as well. I think that's kind a c…
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 05:30 PM
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I'm not complaining, I'm explaining. There is a difference. The guy asked why dating after a certain age feels different. That's because it is different. The women now treat it differently. Their fertility window is rapidly closing and if they ever wanna have kids, it's now or never. It is what it is. Now, I am a MGTOW and a bachelor. I rather like this way of life. But if other people wanna wife up 30 year old women with baby rabies, they are welcome to it.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 05:19 PM
3

Look, I didn't say that their strategy makes sense. It doesn't. But it doesn't stop women from thinking this way.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 05:03 PM
3

Cheers!
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 02:26 PM
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I'm not looking to marry anyone, thank you very much. Plus there are inherent risks of bringing a woman here from a developing country. When she figures out how women in the West generally live, then good luck keeping her. She might just change on you.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 02:19 PM
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Yeah. That's great post. I think the industrial age has unleashed hypergamy (and female materialism) now to such a degree, that very few western men can actually satisfy it. And a lot of guys are figuring out that it's not worth the effort any more. Hence MGTOW. It will be interesting to see how the industrial age unwinds itself down and what it will do to gender relations. I suspect that even fewer men get to reproduce in the West, as more and more men are thrown out of the industrial economy. …
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 02:16 PM
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If it feels like a job interview, it's because that's what it is. You're being interviewed for a provider role and eventually being set up for divorce rape. That's basically the mating strategy of western woman: Have fun in your 20's and then try to trap a guy before you hit the age of 35. That's why they have all these lists and demands the older they get; Time is running out for them.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 11:50 AM
9

I know this is hard for the alt right to wrap their heads around, but capitalism has morphed into something really nasty. It has turned into this central planned economy. Command and control style. With banks, corporations and government sharing the same bed and fucking over the rest of us. I understand that libertarian minded folk focus a lot on sound money, but things have really gotten out of hand in other ways as well. The western world is going to have a very difficult time getting any kind…
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 03:36 PM
4

Haha! I gotta try that actually. :D
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 02:52 PM
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Doesn't surprise me at all. I started using the nice guy stick as a way to ghost women, when I realized how much nice guys repulse them. Except for 30 something single moms, the nice guy is invisible to women most of the time. It's funny though when they sometimes say stuff like ; ” Oh Darth_Bicycle you're such a nice guy. I'm sure you'll find a woman soon enough..” And I think to myself channeling Lewis Black :”Ha! I'm on to you fucker! Don't even try that with me!” And then I smile and nod my …
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 02:33 PM
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Yeah. The other day I realized also, that all these western career women are actually paying for other people to have babies. Isn't that ironic? They are still being used for having babies, but this time just to feed them. Other women get to have babies and experience motherhood. Western women pay for it. Even those that are not working end up paying for it, since our welfare states are going belly up. Plus at the end of their career they wont have pensions or anyone to look after them, as our s…
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 11:29 AM
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Almost 10 000 likes. Enjoy the decline!
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 07:04 PM
1

Yeah, they do have lot's of kids because they get a lot of benefits. But most of those benefits are paid by the European tax payers, not by the immigrants. Those systems are starting to implode. Also I think that we are already in the second Great Depression in Europe. We already have bread lines in my country. Even educated academics are using bread lines. This will be the final depression of the industrial age. One that we can't get out of. The governments in Europe simply can't give away reso…
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 04:44 PM
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I lost my anger about a decade a go. Ironically I didn't think of what women do, or what they are like until I started reading these MGTOW forums and watching the videos about a year a go. MGTOW content can get you all riled up, and anger is a good short term boost. But it's better to let go of it in the long term. That's why I often contemplate not reading or watching MGTOW content. I don't really have a use for that anger any more. Nature is what it is. Swimming against the current and getting…
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 04:27 PM
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Well, we will see, wont we? It's a pretty safe bet that the safety nets will implode soon in Europe. The 3rd world immigrants don't pay into the system, they take out in the form of unemployment benefits and social security. In my country the pension system is imploding as we speak. The education system has started to implode. The post industrial Europe won't last in it's current form much longer. A lot of people no longer have careers, so there won't be a tax base to support those migrants and …
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 04:17 PM
3

Someone quoted Napoleon here earlier : ”Never interrupt when your enemy is making a mistake”. It also means, that be quiet when your enemy is making a mistake. That's what always comes to my mind when I see these anti-feminist men; Not that they are wrong, but be quiet before the women actually realise what a horrible mistake feminism was for them. Feminism was this beautiful, well placed own goal. Let us celebrate it silently and encourage more own goals instead. Let the plantation go empty in …
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 02:50 PM
14

Oh good grief! Mangina O'hoy!
/r/MGTOW18/11/16 08:11 PM
1

Heh. I have a cd labeled "Best of Tchaikovsky" I listen to it. Not any specific piece, although I do love the 1812 overture, but so does everyone I suppose.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 07:59 PM
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Yeah. That's the Chomsky and Richard Wolff angle. We scale these experiments up and remove the wool from people's eyes and they will embrace some kind of socialism as a result. I just have a hard time believing that will happen. I think the most likely outcome from all of this is right wing revolutions and societal convulsions. Maybe after the dust settles there will be something better, but there are dark times ahead and I am not holding my breath.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 10:31 PM
1

True enough.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 09:01 PM
1

Yeah. It's sadly true. If we get rid of hierarchies, we get rid of society itself. Anarchist dream is just a dream, we can't go back to being hunter gatherers. And even if we did, there would be some hierarchies there as well. Big fish eat the little fish and all that.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 03:34 PM
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Yeah. Feminism has basically peaked. I mean there is no more free shit for women to have. The western systems have so much debt, that there simply is no more left to give. They can't get blood out of stone. All the slutwalks in the world won't fill the state coffers.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 03:30 PM
1

I explained it to my father and he got it right away. Well almost.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 02:49 PM
1

It's a fancy word for ”libertarian socialist”, which itself is a fancy word for a world without hierarchies. Which itself is more and more a pipe dream and will never happen. At least not in my life time.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 02:46 PM
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I do have sympathy for some women. Nature gave them one card to play (trap a man into servitude via pregnancy) and now fewer and fewer of them get to play that card. But on the other hand, this is the world that they wanted and demanded. It's not our job to save people from the consequences of their own actions. This is what the feminine collective wanted.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 02:18 PM
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Seems so. In my country there is now even ”eco-feminism”. I shit you not. I give the environmental movement about a decade before it implodes. ”Evil patriarchy is raping the feminine goddess mother nature!” , Then the brave eco-feminist activist buys another consumer product that's made in Chinese sweat shop.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 02:08 PM
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All of this is funny to read. I was a left winger. Basically an anarcho syndicalist. I saw how these movements started crashing and imploding once the feminists took over: Everything was now about how their vaginas were oppressed and the guys started white knighting for the women. So no more talk about how these ”free market” deals were fucking up the working class man. No! Now it was all about identity politics. Is it any wonder then that Clinton's campaign imploded? Even the left wingers are s…
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 01:18 PM
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No. I don't think that's true at all. Especially in Europe, the populations were a lot more homogeneous before. And there were functioning economies in Europe before the onset of multi culturalism. I'm not a right wing nationalist at all, but it's easy for me to see why they are gaining popularity in Europe. Re-revisionist history isn't helping.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 11:20 AM
2

I only watched a couple of minutes of the video. It's pretty bizarre. She just turns the other cheek. And some of the girls that were slapping her in the face looked pretty white to me. So maybe this is some SJW bullshit as well? As for the guys that comment later on; Well they are white knighting of course. It rarely makes any kind of rational sense. It's kind of silly male fantasy anyway ”I'll protect the girl and she'll be grateful...” But the other thing is, that as our economies tank, it is…
/r/MGTOW14/11/16 09:09 PM
1

Yeah. We can't put toothpaste back into the tube, or unfuck this chicken (as they said in another forum..heh.).
/r/MGTOW14/11/16 03:59 PM
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It's the modern liberal mindset itself; Everything is viewed through the lens of progress: Women are now free and we have this open society, so a lot of sex is doupleplusgood for women. Everything gets filtered through that lens of progress. It applies to all kinds social phenomena. It's the sort of progressive narrative that gets applied to everything. ”Europe has progressed now!” It is multi cultural. ”Women have been liberated!” They are getting boned by Chad Sexingtons en mass. I'm not a lib…
/r/MGTOW14/11/16 12:05 PM
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I'm a death metal guitarist who loves Slayer, Sepultura and oddly... Tchaikovsky as well.. :D I will have to check out the link. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 10:21 PM
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I've been in Monk mode for years now and I do talk to women, just as I talk to anybody. I just won't do any flirting. Sometimes some lonely middle aged women try to flirt with me (kinda), but I just pretend like I don't notice. I mean life goes on as it does, even for us monks. There's no need to hold some extreme position and dig bunkers to avoid women folk. They aren't even worth the effort needed to avoid them. I'll talk to them and after we are done talking, they are on their way to find ano…
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 11:06 PM
1

I see your point. In real life the tomboy would be 100 times better, no doubt. But there was something amusing about Morrigan. She reminds me of modern women so much. ”The wait is long, the ride is short and there are hundred men behind you waiting for their turn..:” ; I think that's how TFM put it. Luckily it was only a game, so her actions were merely amusing. In real life I would run like hell from women like her.
/r/MGTOW11/11/16 02:09 PM
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The thing is, that he is not wrong. And in a lot of ways Morrigan is more "strong indepedent womyn" than that bulldyke Cassandra. 100 times more interesting, and realistic too..Heh. She comes off as a NAWALT, then maniupulates you, spermjacks you and then she's out the door. Only the alimony is missing, but other than that it's pretty realistic.
/r/MGTOW11/11/16 11:05 AM
2

Indeed.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 11:38 AM
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We have lost so much of our old culture, that I don't even wanna think about it. It's so depressing. We are one of the most "Americanized" country and people in Europe. In certain sense we have undergone a cultural collapse here in slow motion. Most of that old stuff exists only in the margins now.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 06:09 PM
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That's a good point. Also we in the West have the option to walk away. At least on an individual level. Probably not as easy to do in other societies.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 06:06 PM
1

And so it begins....
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 12:47 PM
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Pretty much have disengaged. I have some dealings with the local university and the philosophy department there, but otherwise I keep to myself.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 03:09 PM
2

I couldn't finish Dragon age 3 either, for the same reasons as you. I mean the bulldyke feminist character was just too much. Bioware these days is very much into identity politics and their fan base consists of SJW's. They pander to SJW's a lot. If you haven't played Witcher 3, then give it a go. One the main characters there also is kinda emancipated, strong woman, but there is consequences to that and it makes it interesting. Bioware characters in contrast exist in a vacuum, at least in Drago…
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 01:06 PM
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I can't tell the difference between satire and reality anymore. I don't know how the guys at The Onion can keep up. Or can they?
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 11:35 AM
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It's like what Adam Smith found out: The productivity of the nation depends on the productivity of the people. So what they do in many countries, is that they shame men like crazy to become the worker drones of the society. Those that fail, or those that the environment fails, often kill themselves. "What kind of a man are you, if you can't even bring food to the table? You're not a real man!" Many men find it difficult to deal with that. My father almost killed himself because of that and a lot…
/r/MGTOW29/10/16 04:50 PM
1

And on a related note, while this is easy to say in retrospect, there is a this part of my brain that says, no, screams, "and why the fuck don't the rest of these monkeys see it?" Yeah. It's very difficult for guys to see it, and there is a reason for that too; The way we live today, as species is very unusual. The normal human male experience is different. Once the boy grows up, the men take him hunting and pass on their knowledge to the boy. I mean this worked even in traditional societies; Yo…
/r/MGTOW29/10/16 01:54 PM
2

I agree. Women going their own way, is exactly what we are see going on in the society today: The Chads, the divorces, the gender studies majors, the 20 year old cock carousel riders, the massive debts, the crushed beta drones, consumer economy, government debts...so on and so on... I mean this is what it looks like when women go their own way. The women went their own way and left us with the bill. That's why I rather not pay taxes; I don't want to fund their ”journey of self discovery and empo…
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 08:19 PM
2

Yes he was.
/r/MGTOW27/10/16 10:42 AM
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I love this quote from Samuel Beckett's Molloy: For in me there have always been two fools, among others, one asking nothing better than to stay where he is and the other imagining that life might be slightly less horrible a little further on. That's kind of how it was with dating for me; When I was alone, the fool in me wanted to be with someone. When I was with some one, the other fool wanted to be alone again. Eventually the other fool just gave up.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 06:37 PM
1

It's just more of the ”female empowerment and self-esteem, you're beautiful girl” -genre. You don't really have to be Sigmund Freud to figure out what's going on here. If you do have a good self esteem, you don't need to write these fluff articles to yourself. The women of the West are constantly kind of huffing and buffing their own egos. It's constant, 24 hour circlejerk these days. Gotta keep those ego's well massaged. Shrug it off and move on. This is only going to get much louder and much w…
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 12:07 PM
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It's funny, the only comment left by a woman, and of course she writes how marriage has always been a bad deal for women. Heh. But in a lot of ways, that's why their movement will eventually fail. There comes a time for every political movement where they must either reform, or lose steam. Feminism is reaching that point. But there is a core problem there; They gain their power through victim-hood , so they won't relinquish that. But in order to reform, you have to turn a critical eye to yoursel…
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 10:28 AM
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The West is what it is. We will get more girl power and things like that from our ”culture”. But you can watch older movies and read books for entertainment. Just visit the library in Toronto. You might be surprised at what you can find. I personally recently read H.P. Lovecraft and some Robert Howard's Conan stories. No PC or SJW's stuff in those books ;) . Also you can use the Red Pill stuff in reverse, and go ghost in public. Once you know what attracts women and SJW's (wealth, status, power.…
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 10:54 PM
2

Well, either I stole the idea from you, or great minds think alike. (Probably the former, or both..lol) I also sort of think that Spengler is correct; That civilizations mature and once they reach certain point, all the great deeds have already been done. At that point it can only decline , but you can sort of enjoy all the fruits of that civilization before it sunsets itself out.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 09:30 PM
2

That's the long and short of it. I agree. I sometimes wonder if it is actually better to live in a decline, rather than during the peak of civilization. Because the traditional shackles and expectations start to crumble, so you can be freer to just enjoy life and just observe what's going on. Oh well, the historians can figure that out.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 09:20 PM
1

My apologies. I misunderstood. It's quite crazy to watch all of this unfold. Might as well make yourself comfortable. P.S. I really like Manson too. I saw him live in Helsinki when I turned 25. Great show. Many moons a go.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 08:45 PM
2

I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just trying to make sense of the time period I'm living in.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 08:34 PM
4

desert of the absurd Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus. He talks about living without meaning and coming to terms with the absurd.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 06:07 PM
9

It's every month now that some anti-feminist woman comes here. What you should do, is now your business. Go and enjoy the world your sisters have created, or go fight against it. Choice is yours. This goes for all of you anti-feminist women and MGTOW groupies, as far as I can concerned; Go and live your life. If you want to fight against feminists, that's your choice. You don't need anyones permission or sympathies.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 03:40 PM
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Well, you answered your own question; Men want a purpose in life. Serving a woman is one of those things that can be a purpose in life. Not many can live in the ”desert of the real”, or in ”the desert of the absurd” - as Camus would put it. It takes a special brand of man, who can forge a meaning by himself. Isn't this partially what we are doing here as MGTOW's?
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 02:56 PM
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Declining civilizations basically double down; They just do more of the same. So in our case we will see more feminism and female empowerment, plus investment in all kinds of technological boondoggles. Until the money runs out that is. The collapse is already well under way. That's why people spend more of their time in virtual reality, because the real reality is looking more and more bleak with each passing day. I'm sure that the West will keep spending on female empowerment as long as they ca…
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 02:10 PM
3

Time heals all wounds, it really does. Don't worry about balding or about your current "lack of success" with women. All of that stuff is irrelevant. Just take your mind out of the dating game and think of something else to do for a while. By the time you hit 30, things will be a hell of a lot different.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:11 PM
4

Well at least that gives as more than 13 years before the Omicron uprising happens. So it's well worth it.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:08 PM
1

Well, Sweden also has a feminist government, so none of this craziness really should surprise any of us.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 09:11 PM
13

Thanks Socrates. I became a philosopher without a wife(philosophy major). Win/Win and no regrets! (No money either. lol)
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 07:09 PM
9

AWALT's, AWALT's everywhere. Well lads, we better start importing better men from the planet Omicron Persei 8, since our earthling women are so displeased with us.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 05:09 PM
5

It's kinda funny, because if I recall Wonder Woman had a pretty dubious origin. For example a lot of those earlier stories have quite a bit of bondage in them. She really didn't start as a feminist icon at all. Her origins are far more...heh... well.... In a way it's a perfect metaphor for feminism, so I approve of this 100%.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 11:02 AM
1

Some countries have started closing their borders, others that don't, collapse first. Merkel basically destroyed shcengen now and possibly the EU itself. Even Sweden is having some type of border control and they are talking about deporting migrants. (Talking though, I don't think it will go any where). If even feminist Sweden is talking about things like that, you know it is bad. My estimate is, that the welfare state probably has about 5 to 10 years to go before it collapses. There is mass une…
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:29 AM
1

It's a beta-male hive, or spawning point.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:20 AM
3

Yeah. I'm trying to pick up different skills as best as I can. I need to learn from my father what mushrooms are edible and so on... Things like that should come in handy.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 11:07 PM
2

Love the essay. Oswald Spengler meets Hunter S. Thompson.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 09:34 PM
3

Overpopulation will be a bigger story the next 100 years, than feminism in my opinion. My country ”only” took in about 40 000 refugees last year in few months, but that number alone was enough to overwhelm the system. They started talking about housing those refugees in shipping containers. That's how close to the bone the industrial system operates. There's very little slack. Now also take into account that most of these refugees can't read or write, so what is going to happen during the next 1…
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 08:31 PM
1

It's another attempt to neutralize discussion: ”Oh MGTOW's are just pathetic guys. Oh they are just White Nationalists. Oh they are just virgins...” etc etc... You can see a lot of this in Europe, when it comes to this refugee crisis; Anyone who has 2 thoughts to rub together, realizes that this type of flood of migrants will cause huge problems. Now the political system doesn't want to deal with this reality, so for now any critique is labeled as ”racism and white nationalism” ..etc etc... In t…
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 02:39 PM
4

I think with MGTOW the way is the goal , so to speak. Celibacy works for me. It's my way. But what works for others, it's for them to find out.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 09:15 AM
1

For me the rage part started when I was in high school and the only other male in class. The girls dropped off their masks so fast, I could scarcely believe it. My mother was also a feminist who almost drove my father to suicide (I found him at railway tracks waiting for a train to end his life.) It was a shock for such a long time, that I went numb. The numbness took a long time to go away. But I found a way out by reading existentialist philosophy.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 08:45 AM
1

Thanks for the tips. I have to really sit down and ponder all of this in great detail. I knew already that we as a nation were going down the tubes economically, but this migration thing has the potential to really get nasty. And it will.. Damn it. I just hope the system stays intact for a few years more, so I can get my shit together. This thing started too fast. I'm not anti gun at all. Lot of people in Finland own guns and they like to hunt, but I can't hit a barn door with a weapon myself. I…
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 12:11 AM
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Well, you're lucky in that regard. The gun laws are really horrible in Europe. In my country we are allowed to have some guns for hunting, but God knows how difficult it is to get one. Someone suggested to me, that I should maybe get a crossbow. Those things are deadly, but apparently the law isn't too strict with them... What a mess. I mean there is no way this thing doesn't turn violent. So many European governments are virtually bankrupt already. I heard that in Sweden the cops are basically …
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 10:18 PM
1

Well, I'm not looking forward to any of this. This whole thing is turning into one massive clusterfuck. it will take decades for Europe to get back to anything resembling "normal". I don't even know what normal means anymore. I just wanna batten down the hatches and survive as long as possible, as long as life is tolerable.
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 06:01 PM
1

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to any of this at all. We have such horrible laws in Europe that if you defend yourself, you'll end up in jail 9 times out of 10. Every day the system is working more and more against us, yet we are expected to pay for it all. What the hell were those feminists and state socialist thinking? That this would end well somehow? Magically? I just hope that this system lasts for a few years more, so I can buy a gun and move to some safer area. And I never even liked guns!
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 04:17 PM
2

Yeah. Unfortunately you are 100% correct. That's already starting to happen here; Some of the more conservative women are blaming men for letting in all those migrants. Liberal women are blaming men for checking out of the society: ”They are just drinking booze all the time! Losers!” . It's really ugly. We will always get the blame. That's one of the reason I don't watch TV anymore. I can't listen to it anymore.
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 01:19 PM
5

It's definitely happening in Europe. The welfare state is going bankrupt. It's like how Hemingway put it in one of his novels :”How did you go broke? - Gradually at first and then suddenly.” I mean I work during the night and evenings. I do my grocery shopping during the day. Many of the shops have lot's of unemployed Muslims and Africans hanging there and spending their welfare checks. Meanwhile the healthcare system in my former hometown is imploding. They have to now resort to things like amp…
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 12:56 PM
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Nordic women hit the wall the earliest. Some of them start losing their looks at 18 -19. Many of them cut their hair short at that time, because it starts thinning. There's a bar fairly near where I live. When I go on for a walk in the evening I see and hear these post wall women with their screeching voices sitting there. There's also younger men walking by with their young girlfriends. It amuses me that they won't make the connection. - In 10 years your girlfriend will be at the bar, laughing …
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 10:37 AM
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Tomassi, Howard, TFM and Marcus have all talk about this in their own way. Most of these guys are talking about Nietzsche's concept of slave morality. And I think they are right. What we have here is, female subverting men into accepting feminine values (or female imperative as Tomassi puts it). The ultimate expression of this subversion is the mangina or the simp. I think a lot of guys have this feeling in the back of their heads, that somethings wrong here. Well that feeling is because we live…
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 11:29 AM
2

We have a post-industrial-feminist- consumer-welfare economy. It doesn't create jobs around manufacturing. Manufacturing jobs go to places where there are no welfare and no high taxes. So the economy in Western world doesn't create jobs. Add Peak-oil into the mix and the picture starts to get clear: We have a debt based economies in the west. Much of it is based on women consuming shit that they don't need, with money that they don't actually have (credit). Consumer economy only has service sect…
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 10:02 PM
2

What about indie games though? I sometimes buy those on steam and I rather like them.
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 08:03 PM
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Apologies. That was my lame attempt at humor. I suppose they just want male attention. If they are not getting any, they wonder what's going on.
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 05:42 PM
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Well, if I am ignoring them, then how can I notice them? Sorry I couldn't resist. But yeah. Happens in Europe too these days. I wonder if it's the side effect of them inviting all those migrants here. They might feel unsafe..Oh well they always feel unsafe.
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 05:08 PM
2

Let's give the villagers a breather first, before we bring in more vampires.
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 03:01 PM
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I'm afraid you'll have to take one for the team. But I heard that the sensation when the vampire drains you of your blood, is quite intoxicating. Kinda like drowning. So there's that to look forward to, at least.
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 01:11 PM
1

Me too :(
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 11:51 AM
3

You know, when Karl Marx described the wonderful life we would all have under communism, he failed to think of MGTOW. Under communism, in Marx utopia, we'd all be reading poetry and drinking wine during the afternoon. Our jobs would be meaningful and we'd have fun working. Our lives would have purpose and meaning.. Well guess what Marx? I have that existence (I don't drink whine though) and it didn't take overturning capitalism. All it took was not getting married. The reason why men worked like…
/r/MGTOW17/10/16 10:07 AM
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In other news; Transylvanian villagers rejoice as Vampires announces that from now on, only type O negative will do. All other blood types need not bother.
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 07:07 PM
8

People still date? What for?
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 04:29 PM
5

How do I become a decent human being in the eyes of MGTOW, because it honestly doesn't seem possible since you immediately assume that I am nothing but utter scum because of my gender. I don't know what you want from me. That really is the wrong question and directed towards the wrong crowd. These are the types of questions you have to ask yourself. No one else can asnwer them for you. So, what is it that you want to do with your life? What kind of person do you want to be? What kind of person i…
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 12:36 PM
9

On top of that, these women actually think that behaving like children makes them seem more desireable. Unfortunately that children bullshit works for allot of men because of their biological drive. Yeah, they do that whole ;” Teehee, I'm a girl!” - type of thing. They think it's cute for some reason. It's kinda funny when a woman who does that is actually; a 28 year old philosophy major and a single mother of 2. ”Wait a minute, wasn't I actually in a philosophy seminar with you just recently? D…
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 10:54 AM
1

I think that when I was still in my early 20's that I could have treated a NAWALT really well. I was so idealistic and a romantic back then. Sure, I would have been a great bicycle for some special little fish. These days? Pff! Not a chance. I won't even let a woman inside my appartment, no matter how much of a NAWALt she might be. She ain't getting in. I don't need that type of headache in my life. (Even a NAWALT would be a headache for me.) Men do change a lot when they get older. A lot of you…
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 03:05 PM
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Well, it's like what Michael Hudson says: ” Debts that can't be paid back, won't be paid pack. It's just a question of figuring out how they wont be paid back...” 2 ways that I can think of are : Inflation or default. Inflation means devaluing the currency (the preferred method of bankers and politicians). Outright honest default would cause political and economic turmoil right away. So that's why the central bankers all around the world are printing money like crazy. But because there are so ma…
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 02:52 PM
7

Sounds much like the local philosophy department at my neck of the woods. I never did find out what feminism and dancing had to do with Heideggers ontology, but I'm sure it was something great.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 08:18 PM
6

There was this really dumb Japanese toy that came out when I was a kid: Tamagotchi! Some kind of virtual pet. You pushed it's buttons and stimulated it and as a ”reward” it grew bigger. That's essentially modern relationships with a woman in a nutshel. The girlfriends that I had were easily bored and I had to act as an entertainment unit for them. It felt really demeaning. ”What the fuck am I entertaining her for?..Oh right, the pussy..Still not worth it though.” The feminists always get riled u…
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 11:06 AM
2

I think that's something every guy remembers. But not everyone can be a Chad.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 08:37 PM
1

Yeah. Well Jets have a nice team (unlike the Wings).
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 08:36 PM
7

As a Wings fans, I gotta admit I'm jealous... Auston Matthews will be a heck of a player for the Leafs.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 07:36 PM
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True. But also, sometimes a nice guy is simply a nice guy. A lot of these guys don't expect to be rewarded because they are nice. They just silently go their own way and don't make a big fuss about it.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 06:12 PM
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Yeah. I see this first hand with my brother; All around nice guy. He has his shit together too. He is the type of guy who remembers what kind of ice cream is your favorite and then when you visit him, he has that in his freezer. Etc etc... The fact is, that the women don't want him. Proof is in the pudding, as they say. I mean he is even a decent looking guy, but no dice. So, I suspect that a lot of guys like him are simply saying ; ”You know what? - Fuck it. I'll just be a bachelor and enjoy my…
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 02:24 PM
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Of course. Not that they'd wanna guy like him, but on the other hand it's nice to have options, I'm sure. What a world.
/r/MGTOW13/10/16 01:14 PM
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Ding! Ding! Ding! Indeed. This is a horrible place to bring children into. Well, horrible place to bring boys into. When ever I am out and about and I see young boys playing and having fun, I feel so sad because I know what the state and the women expect of them.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 02:08 PM
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Someone had something like this in his signature on another MGTOW site: We have no demands to present to you, no terms to bargain about, no compromise to reach. You have nothing to offer us. I personally live my life without a woman in it. What the hell can they do? They can nag and manipulate each others, their husbands and the state until it all comes crashing down. When that day comes, I will go for a walk, as I do every day.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 12:20 PM
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True. They won't get any blame. In fact they might be the ones forcing men to go out and fight the migrants once the welfare money runs out. Man, the women are going to be pissed and then the white knights will go and fight. But yeah, women will escape blame. In my country that's what the conservative women are starting to do. They shame men for letting the migrants in.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 09:21 AM
1

Perhaps. But I think that we are in the beginning stages of ”fempocalypse” that GWW talked about; Europe educated it's women (women's liberation) → educated women have less babies → Less babies, less tax payers → system begins to crumble → import taxpayers from outside, AKA refugees → refugees want welfare → more red ink on the state budget → system begins to implode → fempocalypse begins!
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 11:05 PM
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Great article. Great find. It made me think of this online conversation I've been having with one of these liberated European females; She originally responded to some tradcon guy by stating what we have come to expect: That women are free now. They want to have careers. They are not baby making machines anymore...All the usual. In many ways all of that is just fine, as long as you understand what you are getting into. A lot of these modern women think of careers as ”super-happy-fun-things” -to …
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 02:36 PM
4

It's a ”wonderful” paradox of female nature: Relationships are so important to them, yet when they are in one, they sabotage it to no end. Then they project this need to men as well; That we are constantly looking for relationships like they are (and that we should be looking for a relationship). That's not really the case. Relationships are just one thing we can do among many other things. ”Do I wanna get into a relationship, or would I rather play with Xbox? I think I'll play with Xbox.” That'…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 02:52 PM
3

Men peacock like crazy (cars, wealth, status, clothing, jewelry...etc etc). That's a lot harder to do, than painting ones face with makeup. But because Dawkins himself is a male, a lot male behavior is invisible to him. He himself does a lot of peacocking and tries to inflate his own status by appearing in TV programs.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 02:22 PM
1

Interiors too. I'm currently not a vendor at Daz. I'm more like a private vendor. I don't make erotic renders, because I have to keep my gallery somewhat clean for customers. I've made a lot of Superhero clothing actually, heh. I'm not quite sure how I ended up doing that... heheh
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 09:41 AM
1

I make some stuff for Poser and DazStudio (clothing, props etc...). Mostly for sale. I also make some scifi stuff for myself that I render in Vue. Death star corridors, buildings, vehicles...etc.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 10:45 PM
10

Being single is not hard at all. It's rather enjoyable. I for example spent the day exercising, making 3d models and reading Lao-Tze's thoughts. Next I'll watch a movie, read some more and go to bed. The key is to.... Oh it's a woman complaining..Never mind then.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 05:45 PM
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Yeah, I think that really sums it up well. Great post.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 10:42 PM
3

That we are. True.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 10:40 PM
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I have to admit that I was really disappointed as well. I was quite the romantic up and until I was about 25 years old. I said this before (and so did someone else here. I forget who. I'm sorry), it was as if I realized that Middle Earth from lord of the Rings wasn't real. That I had foolishly believed that it was real. Also almost all romances are written by men, so that's something to think about as well. We men are actually the romantic types. Women are more like the consumers of romance. Lot…
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 08:22 PM
4

There's a Buddhist video at the end of the rant. If this woman is a Buddhist, then she is the most selfish Buddhist I have ever seen. Not that it's any of my business, but she seems to be doing the whole Buddhism thing ass backwards. Edit: It is also going to cause a lot of suffering to her, if she doesn't realize that men aren't happiness producing units, put on this earth to please women.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 02:56 PM
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I don't know how to write this without sounding like a 10 year old boy, but this thread makes us sound like 10 year old boys.... ”We are men, boldly going our way...And uh..What do you girls think about that? 'Cause we really wanna know!” Sorry, just calling it the way I see it. So a year from now, it's boys going their own way with girlfriends, lovers and wives.... and waifus..Actually I'd like a waifu.....
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 11:38 PM
5

Dr. Joseph Tainter has said that we are ”a species that muddles through”. What he means by that, is that we come up with things that work for a while, until they don't. And then we have to come up with new solutions. It's never perfect, but we muddle through. I suppose it was like that with marriage back in the day; It somewhat worked. The wife nagged and bitched and manipulated as they always do, but at least the farm didn't burn down and you had some help. It was far from perfect but it allowe…
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 06:04 PM
1

Not really my type of music, but the message is pretty clear. I've always been fond of Perfect Circle's "Passive" They always bitch about men having it so good and about the patriarchy, but don't have a clue as to what is to live as a man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFw9fHN6Bhc The chorus talks about someday walking away and saying: "Maybe you're better of this way"
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 11:45 AM
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Strange..It's as if the world isn't there to fulfill women's needs after all... But these European women have been complaining for decades now. Is it any wonder that men no longer listen to their endless whining? What man in his right mind would want to deal with a Goldilocks like her anyway? A man has to be Not too hot, not too cold...
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 10:24 PM
4

To think that I didn't even know that I was in trouble! Woe is me for I have too much free time and no stress. I must quickly become office plankton and acquire a nagging creature to house at my place!
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 09:49 PM
1

It was good while it lasted (speaking as a Finnish man). These days it is very difficult to actually get services from the government, especially if you are a male. All the services are buried behind a mountain of bureaucracy. With the refugee crisis, increased debt and mass migration the welfare state is on it's last legs. I know some of the people here try to put on a brave face on all of this, but it would be a small miracle if the government services lasted more than 10 years. The taxes are …
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 10:56 PM
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Material abundance of industrial civilization + feminism + hypergamy + cavewoman mating strategies = female misery
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 07:18 PM
2

There are things in LOTR that are plausible and meaningful; Things like Frodo's and Sam's friendship. Curiously enough, the book really doesn't have much of a romance in it. It's merely hinted at. While slaying orcs shoulder to shoulder might sound terrible to some, it is far better life than what the modern office plankton man-ape has to endure.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 05:15 PM
1

Well thank you. I always found Sartre's philosophy very helpful myself.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 05:09 PM
2

Consciousness, as Jean-Paul Sartre wrote, exists as a lack. Consciousness is always consciousness of something. It is always directed towards something it itself is not. Most people try to drown out this predicament of human condition by throwing themselves at relationships or institutions and what have you. Often this lack is also thought of as loneliness and it makes us seek out ”love”. I personally think that this is also the cause of much suffering in the world; It is why people try to fill …
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 02:46 PM
3

Not really, no. And not because I'm some bad ass dude, who doesn't need no love, but rather I slowly and over time came to this way of thinking. I wished romantic love was real, almost the same way I used to wish middle-earth was real. I wished I could ride with the riders of Rohan. That I could visit Gondor...and so on... But I am the son of, what I could best describe as, the European version of Japanese salary man. We have almost as bad a workhorse culture here as they do in Japan. For middle…
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 11:21 AM
2

I've been asked out once (by my first girlfriend). I didn't reject her, since she asked me out. I've been losing a lot of weight myself recently and even though I am 40 years old, much younger women hit on me sometimes. That's something I didn't really believe about the red pill for a long time, that age doesn't matter with men. But I've now seen it with my own eyes. Anyways, I've tried to gently reject their flirting and the women get confused. If they see me again later, I detect some slight h…
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 09:25 PM
4

Well the rapes did increase here. But you're missing the point here.
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 11:36 AM
6

In Europe these women really think that they have some special powers over men. We had that refugee rape epidemic and the way the feminist ”solved” the problem was, that they started holding some feminist seminars in refugee centers to the men. I shit you not. They think they can just hold a seminar and these men will magically do as they are told because a woman said so. So female power over men is just immense if you believe the feminists; A couple of seminars and their ”rapey, patriarchal” wa…
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 09:42 AM
2

Not in my country, no. I live in a state feminist country and so far us MGTOW's have been left alone. Thank God. But whenever there is a "problem" here, it gets filtered through the feminine lens. Everything here runs through the Borg hive collective. You really don't want to draw their attention. The worse thing would be, that those lizard queens tried to "help" young men to not go MGTOW. There's already a slight panic going on about younger men dropping out of society.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 10:29 AM
3

Well think of what Hesse wrote as a religious experience; When a woman smiles to him, it's as he has caught a glimpse of a goddess. Chivalry, courtly love....etc..there's always been a religious aspect to it.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 03:39 PM
2

Yup. I keep to myself as well most of the time and pretty much for the same reasons as well.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 07:30 PM
2

Hehe, yeah. Principle is the same. Stardusk even called women "pussy merchants" in one of his videos..Heh. I think that's why they shame male virgins so much. They need to have men hooked on the product as soon as possible, before they realize how bad the side-effects are.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 07:30 PM
2

Oh? Well I'm glad you found it useful.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 09:52 AM
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They are like merchants who are upset at people who are not buying their product: ”This product is too good for you anyway! You don't know what good wine tastes like anyway. You don't have the acquired taste for this product..:” etc etc.. It's a way of making sure that your other customers don't start asking questions about your product. If a customer is not buying, it's his fault! Modern women really have nothing else to offer than relationships and sex. It used to be (long ago) that marriage w…
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 09:50 AM
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Well, like I have said before; I' a MGTOW monk myself. Works for me personally. What others do with their lives, is their business. But anyway; I wonder if these women call Buddhist Monks ”Kissless virgins” as well. That's how little sense articles like these make to me. But this article is also sad commentary on the modern female; She has nothing else to offer to a man than sex. That's why they have to push it all the time. ”You're a man! You have to want the sex that women are offering! ” But …
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 02:55 PM
2

Oh yeah. Gold is a useless relic! Don't buy it! MGTOW is a neackbearded loser! Don't be like him!
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 02:02 PM
7

Well, if you view what they say from a parasites perspective, it kinda makes it easier to understand; MGTOW guy is someone who they can not leach, and is therefore useless to them. It's kinda like if you're running a pyramid scheme and someone has bought gold with all of his money, then that guy is kinda useless to you and to your scheme.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 10:18 AM
2

Being from Europe myself, I'd be careful with this European girl. They can't be as crazy as American girls right off the bat, because the culture doesn't allow it yet. But it's your life.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 09:48 AM
1

Yeah.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 01:44 PM
2

That's another good point. China actually has something to show for the debt. They talk a lot about those ghost cities, but at least they are there. What the hell is the west supposed to do with it's army of Gender Studies majors?
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 09:51 AM
2

That's a good point. Governments here can't even do anything productive with borrowed money.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 10:33 PM
4

It's basically defeating itself right now: Governments coffers are running dry all over the western world, the family unit is all but destroyed, there is rampant unemployment, hookup culture, men reluctant to give commitment, single mother epidemic..and so on... They can burn their bra's all day long, but that's not gonna give them the ring of power. Rapefugee crisis in Europe (if the women have indeed been raped)...The women can't even scam these refugees out of money because they don't have an…
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 08:05 PM
1

I really like Top Dollar, LiberationY, Codwainer Bird and DarkLoner. I don't think Top DarkLoner makes any content any more.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 02:41 PM
2

Funny question: ”-Do you love the people you love?” Hmm..Gee..I gotta dwell on that for a while. Yeah I do love my mother, but she is definitely just like all the other women. And I don't pursue any ”romantic” relationships with women. Sometimes a woman tries to be friends with me, but once she realizes she can't extract favors from me, that ”friendship” ends real quick. A lot of the time I just ghost women.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 04:40 PM
2

I'm working on my 3d models and 3d art. I'll continue reading Frank Herbert's dune and Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West. I'll exercise and take long walks as well.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 04:12 PM
3

I don't know. Could be that they want children. Who the hell knows. A lot of middle aged women here take immigrants as their lovers for a few years. Then the young migrant men dump them after they get married and they get a citizenship. Lot of the refugee kids that make it all the way here are penniless after the long trip. So I guess they have to resort to fucking ugly women to make money.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 02:09 PM
1

Yes, I know. Most are like 30 to 45 years old. Lot of these guys flirt with teenaged girls here, since they don't have money to go to night clubs...That is until the government here hands them out some free money. But there are some kids as well.. Not many, but few. Those refugee/immigrant kids do get exploited a lot. By other immigrants and by women here.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 02:06 PM
1

Yeah, I know. I have the same exact thoughts.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 02:04 PM
38

They were fucking under aged migrant boys in my country as well. The boys got barely enough money to buy a pack of smokes for banging some post wall degenerate Nordic feminists. Ugh. There are all kinds of nasty, sick rumors going around about those refugee centers as well.. One wonders why most of the workers there are middle aged women....
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 09:47 PM
4

Do not put any trust on the government. The western pension systems are essentially ponzi schemes. They won't last. Get a stress free job (if possible) and save money. Take good care of your health and find someone to help you with investing. I'd buy gold, but that's just me.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 02:00 PM
5

Every great civilization that has ever existed has declined and eventually fallen. Ours is no different. The cycle just repeats itself. So, in a lot of ways a citizen of Rome circa 400 a.d. would recognize all the woes and problems that we here talk about. It would be like deja vu to him. It does suck having to live through a time period like this, but on the other hand there still exists a lot for a man to do in western civilization. You can travel, play videogames, learn about other cultures.e…
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 09:40 AM
4

Same here in Finland. Luckily we imported a lot of hard working people from middle east and Africa. So it shouldn't be a problem in the future, right? Right? Once they have been on welfare for a decade I'm sure they will be motivated to work hard and pay taxes so our elderly people get to enjoy their pensions.
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 06:31 PM
24

The older you get, the more you will enjoy your solitude and time. Once you hit 40, you will begin to understand how short life really is. Your time is valuable. All these ideals of ”sharing life with special someone”, are just that, ideals. Those ideals are most potent in youth. Once you hit middle age, your thinking has changed a lot from your youth. Or, it should have. Also take a good look around at women who are 40 years or older. You really wanna live with a lizard like that? By the time t…
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 10:19 AM
1

They can't really fix this. The politicians desperately need more taxpayers. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they threw young women under the buss in the future too. The ship of state is sinking.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 10:58 PM
1

Well, more of them will lash out violently against the system in the future. i think it's pretty much guaranteed the way things are going. This country is like a pressure cooker. And that's true for many places in Europe. My fear is that once countries have lot's of men without hope, the state takes them to war.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 07:40 PM
15

I live in Finland and this sort of thing has increased a lot in the past decade or so. I hate to say it, but this country and it's young men are going into a very dark place. See, the women here live inside this massive safety bubble (feminist state) that the men are expected to shoulder. The culture is very much based on shaming men. I's like Adam Smith said; The wealth of the nation is not based on it's resources, but on the productivity of it's people. More to the point; The productivity of m…
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 04:55 PM
2

I don't know..Most of the time I feel like Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon:” I'm getting too old for this shit.” I'm just slightly annoyed with it. The older I get, the more tiresome all of these pointless mating rituals of the gynocentric society seem to me. Besides, I'm trying to ghost here. Female attention means I've failed somehow. After the migrant crisis hit, I'm having a harder time ghosting as it is. I'm sure some guys are happy about the new female attention they are getting though.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 01:52 PM
7

I'm a former lefty, today I'm a declinist (there is no way to save this tower of shit from collapsing). I never bought into the ”gender-is-a-social-construct-I'm-aspecial-lil-snowflake-my-vagina-is-oppressed” thing. But I saw the feminist loonies take over the left and now there is nothing left of the left, but toxic identity politics. The left used to care about the working man, but those days are so long gone, it's not even funny. Also the state is using the left to support mass migration. "Do…
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 09:31 PM
2

All hail the European Cuntocracy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fptue_EaMjw
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 08:43 PM
2

Oh it's ”MMO speak”. It has to do with MMO game mechanics.How do I explain this quickly? OK. In Mmo games there usually is 2 types of player controlled characters: One is a tank (big muscular fighter type) and the other is DPS (a smaller guy, in the background mage, thief..so on). The DPS guy actually does all the damage against the monsters, but the tank gets the monsters attention. He shouts and yells and acts all visible, while the thief stabs the monsters from behind and gets no attention.
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 09:02 AM
1

True, black is a powerful color, but it is also a color associated with grief and sadness. The key is to not over do it. A black sweater with some dark blue jeans will be enough.
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 08:52 PM
2

Yeah, I'm a former heavy metal lead guitarist, so I know what you mean. You have to tune that shit way down when you're out and about. Can't be walking around looking like you wanna murder half the planet as you're playing your favorite riff in your head. That will get you some attention real quick. Darker blue and mellow colors like that work the best IMO. Just some plain and simple clothing, but you don't wanna over do it either. Otherwise you'll get more attention that way. Just looking like …
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 12:05 PM
5

I just think of them as MGTOW groupies. They are kind of cute in a funny way; "Hey, I like you guys! I'm so against feminism! I'm not like the other girls..." -Isn't that cute? Utterly useless, but cute in a silly way. "Aaaw, it's trying to be a NAWALT." But as MGTOW grows there will be more of them. They are kind of biologically hardwired to seek out male attention and spaces. In the grand scheme of things they are irrelevant. But it also goes to show, that they can't actually do anything. I me…
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 09:55 AM
3

True. I work at home, but I can't avoid all social gatherings. I have to attend some and I also have to deal with the local government bureaucracy as well.
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 09:49 AM
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Wear darker clothes. Black works, but darker blue is the best. It's a calming color. Be nice and polite when you're out and about. It makes it quicker and easier to deal with people. Also nice guys leave no impression to women. You're like air. ”Who was that guy again?” poof! Only single moms like nice guys, but they are looking for suckers. Nice guy signals ”sucker” to them. So keep an eye out for those. Ponytail works as well. It's a great woman repellent. Bad haircut is a pretty good thing. U…
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 09:43 AM
2

Yeah and considering how messed up their dogs are...
/r/MGTOW12/09/16 11:52 PM
3

Indeed. In real life, we do get to enjoy a happy ending.
/r/MGTOW12/09/16 08:54 PM
7

Some pigs are more equal than others. Or was it fish? I forget.
/r/MGTOW12/09/16 06:41 PM
27

What's really amusing is, that when they are middle aged they are still hypergamous. Even though they really can't act on that instinct any more. Some of them will try and flirt with you as if they are still 16, or 26.
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 10:49 PM
3

Well, if the feminist narrative was even half true, we would be living in a totally different world by now. There would be new eco-friendly (nothing wrong with that, mind you), feminine industries popping up left and right. We would be living through an unprecedented boom time in history. Women would be building new things just to spite us, just to show us that our patriarchal ways were so wrong. We'd be forced to admit how wrong we were. You'd read from the New York Times things like; ”Women bu…
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 11:47 AM
29

If the fish keep talking about how they don't need bicycles, and this behavior keeps on going for decades, then you don't have to be Sigmund Freud to figure out that there is something fishy about all of these denials. I for example, don't need a hairdryer, but you don't see me writing articles about it for decades. I simply don't interact with, or own said device. My lack of need for a hair dryer is simply not something that concerns me at all. Writing articles about it would be rather dull, I …
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 05:59 PM
1

There was article on it on state media web site. The link is gone with the wind now. Everyone just went silent about it real quick.
/r/MGTOW09/09/16 09:24 AM
2

Yeah well...I agree in principle..How ever.. When the refugee crisis hit my country, we had middle aged women here buying sex from under-aged refugee boys. You can take a guess how long that headline remained in the news. They didn't even give the boys much money for their services. Barely enough money to buy a pack of smokes. Imagine if the men here had bought sex from under aged girls...
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 10:28 PM
3

I agree with your analysis. I suppose I personally view the system as ”corporatism”; You can't really tell where the corporations end and government begins. It's equal opportunity corruption between the politicians and lobbyists. Best democracy that money can buy! I guess in Europe we also have layer upon layer of government bureaucracy on top of the damn thing. Everything gets hollowed out in the EU. Only thing left standing is the mega banks and giant centralized bureaucracy in Brussels. It re…
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 08:26 PM
3

Well, I suppose you could say that females outsourced the cost of reproduction to the society and ultimately to males. I suspect it will have the same end results as economic outsourcing; - Destruction of your own markets. In this case, society and the males not being able to shoulder the cost of reproduction and having no motivation to do so either.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 02:58 PM
9

Women hate MGTOW for the same reason they dislike their boyfriends single male friends; Single men's lives are better than what women have to offer. Most modern women know on some level that what they are offering to a male is a shitty deal. Servitude for some sex. That's all. That's why they are afraid of those single males that have no girlfriends. That's why they have to ”dress up” their shitty deal with empty words as ”partnership” , ”love” and ”true love”. ”Don't you want to be loved?” - Ye…
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 09:52 AM
0

True. I doubt that the male feminists can grow a backbone though. It takes quite a lot to get rid of an ideology (maybe a hard punch to the head could do it). Basically multiculturalism in Europe is collapsing already anyway. There's no money to keep it going. You can't turn Somali goat herders and Afghani street kids into programmers fast enough. The tax base in the EU can't actually keep this thing going for much longer. Our pension system is already broke, as is the entire welfare state in ma…
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 10:12 PM
4

I read and study philosophy and history. I also create 3d models and 3d art. I also exercise every day.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 07:25 PM
1

This is good advice. This is kinda how I approach my life in these troubled times as well.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 07:24 PM
8

This woman is basically again asking men to go die for women. I'll pass, thank you very much. Call feminists or Soldiers of Odin. If that doesn't work, give the rapefugees some flowers. Besides, not all the men have been emasculated. They are starting to fight back in my country. I honestly wish they wouldn't. It pisses me off that young Finnish men have to fix the problems that the feminist state has created. They are basically being fed to the wolves because the feminists wanted to experience …
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 07:11 PM
3

Thanks for the link. I have to check out the book. Yeah. Europe has become a pretty weird place to live. After the wars we ditched Christianity and started believing in the myth of progress. Most Europeans (used to) think that we will have a Star Trek future; It will be multi-cultural and gender neutral. Technology will provide us with endless material goods and we will just have to tinker enough with the political system to make it happen. Some small adjustments needed. So, feminism tapped into…
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 04:36 PM
3

I'm not blaming Chrsitianity. What I am saying is, that as Europe became more secular people still had that need for a religion. So a lot of them turned to Marxism and feminism (Workers paradise on earth, equality among the masses). They both function as ersatz religion. People still needed to believe in something, no matter how secular they became.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 02:43 PM
22

Feminism is also very popular among male academics and they basically think that ”it's their turn now”. They get to show females how understanding and supportive they are, compared to those ”jerk alpha's”. A lot of the feminist theories basically make no sense, and the only way you're able to talk ”feminism” is, if you ”educated” yourself in post-modernism and the like. i.e. You need to be modern day academic. I can actually understand their bullshit theories, because as a side effect of my educ…
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 12:41 PM
2

Me thinks Pamela Anderson is 'corrosive'.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 09:39 AM
2

They do that at the university level too. The psychology department here is filled with these positive thinking lunatics. Granted, the female psychologists have always been a little crazy, but this new breed of shrinks has gone of the deep end.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 09:38 AM
8

It's not pathetic on your part. It's nature. This is the world we have now; Women chasing the top 10-20% of men. You don't even have to be good at math to realize how many of them will be miserable later in life. Here's a secret though; We men can live without women. Nature made sure of that and the older you get the less of a fuck you will give. Womens love and affection is so fickle, it is almost worthless anyway. Another thing to keep in mind: Your status as a male changes throughout life. Yo…
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 08:26 PM
1

Thank you. It's good to be home. :)
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 07:03 PM
7

I had a good friend who was basically an Alpha. His story is almost the same as yours, but it ends differently. He was a lead singer in a band, I was the guitarist. The guy would get all the hottest girls and they all ended up cheating on him in the end. It really didn't matter what he did, or how loyal he was. It was quite an eye opener for me, that's for sure. In the end he settled for a pretty average girl and became pussywhipped. The band collapsed and he became basically a pussywhipped beta…
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 03:11 PM
4

Slightly off topic: I use that nice guy shtick a lot when I am out and about. You'll become almost invisible to most of the women. Like air, heh. So it's a good way to go, if you wanna ghost them. You'll leave no impression on them by being a nice gentleman. Works maybe about 90 -95% of the time. It's funny to me how women have kind of painted themselves in the corner; They have made these redicilous claims of having some sort of moral superiority compared to men and now they have to constanty h…
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 08:20 AM
0

Kudos to you. Let go, or be dragged.- As they say.
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 10:13 PM
1

Yeah, that's the one. She looks older than 23 IMO. Yeah, hope they get some help.
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 03:08 PM
5

Alcohol is not treating them kindly either; One of the girls says she is 23, but looks more like 33.
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 01:21 PM
1

"Mgtow needs to redirect it self towards an idea of men ignoring the sluts/unfit mothers in society (Offers an incentive for women to change) while still being open to the idea of a relationship with a women that is marriage material." What?!? Yeah, you can go ahead and do that.
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 10:06 AM
2

Yeah, it's going to get a lot worse. I know some of them that try to re-invent themselves in middle age as homemakers and these women can't even boil an egg. They are overweight, looks gone, unhealthy and have no useful skills. Nor do they know anything about the world. Once the current crop of 20 something party girls hit middle age, it's going to be a hell of a mess. My advice is to find an outlet for your energy. Once you go Monk mode, you'll probably notice that you have lot's of time and ex…
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 09:38 AM
7

Don't feel so bad about it. You kept her from ruining another mans life for 6 years.
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 08:01 AM
7

I'm a middle aged MGTWO monk myself (40 years old). I've been this way for 15 years. I can remember how bad the situation was even when I was a teenager, some 25 years a go. Granted, I live in a Nordic country, so alcohol here is a way of life, but the girls started slutting around very early indeed. I can only imagine how bad it is today. Most of my male friends were repulsed by it all. Some of them swore off alcohol entirely. None of us are married. I think it is at least partially instinctual…
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 05:54 PM
1

Existentialism in general. Works of Jean-Paul Sartre, Kierkegaard and Heidegger. If you want some harsh red pills, then read some Nietzsche and Spengler.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 12:32 PM
1

Swedish women apparently.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 09:55 AM
2

I'll take your word for it. I have to keep it in mind in case I run into any Syrian refugees here. The migrant men keep the female migrants under lock and key here though (while the men roam the bars freely. Or so it would seem.) But luckily I can cook for myself. I have no need to outsource that task to a woman. I kinda prefer Asian cuisines myself though.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 09:54 AM
1

Yeah, me too. Well if anyone would say a thing like that, it would be Mike Patton.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 09:50 AM
6

It's really sad what's happened to Sweden. Well...same shit is going down in Finland... We are just a decade late... sigh But yeah, you can't let a European woman anywhere near the kitchen. She'll just burn it down. And what the hell was this woman even trying to fry? Cheese doodles?
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 08:26 PM
2

Well...Nature needed to give women something, to make us chase them. God knows their personalities aren't doing it.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 08:21 PM
3

There was this urban legend back in the day that, Faith No More's Mike Patton said that he preferred jerking off to sex with women. It was kinda a taboo back then, to say a thing like that. More so even than to day. But yeah I'm the same way. Getting laid involves talking to a woman, and I'd rather drill holes to my head than talk to a European woman.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 08:28 AM
6

These anti-feminist women still have an ontological problem; That problem is, that they are indeed women. Women only care for what man can do for them. So it's selfish care. This is not something they can overcome, so any reform that they might do, would still be a reform that benefits women; i.e. Reform towards feminism. So, in a lot of ways, as long as they are in power they can only make things worse for men, even when they might think they are ”doing it for men”. They are acting for selfish …
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 07:39 AM
3

Last observation, take japan for example and their term Karōshi, which means death by over work. Which at one point was seen as a privilege to die while working, which is preposterous. I mention Karōshi because we then have an understanding of how far women are willing to push men, we are literally cattle. They can whip you to death even in Western countries. My father worked 7 days a week. 10 hours per day. Once he got fired (because of economic depression), his lovely wife drove him to suicide…
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 09:25 PM
1

Yeah, but imagine doing the Amish thing as a MGTOW man; You're there at your farm and looking at your comely wife thinking ;”I know what lurks beneath her appearance and it's nothing good...” Everything would be a delusion and you'd know it.
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 09:23 PM
1

Yet with strange aeons even death may die.
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 05:37 PM
9

The big problem with MRA's is, that they can't actually fix the underlying issues. What causes men to kill themselves? Our whole western culture is eroding. It used to be that we would get meaning and sense of direction from the culture, but these days none of it works. A new consumer product can't fulfill our deepest existential needs, but for some reason it seems to keep those girls happy for a while. Lip-gloss is a poor substitute for meaning, but I wonder how long it will take for the women …
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 12:10 PM
9

Look, don't be ashamed. There's nothing to be ashamed of. You're not the first guy to orbit a girl. You won't be the last one either. It's like a failed mating strategy that some guys try to use. It almost never works. Just try to get her off your mind. I know it's easier said than done, but this thing won't lead to anywhere good.
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 12:32 PM
28

Why do guys come to MGTOW forums to ask for relationship advice? It's like asking an atheist on how to become a better Christian. My advice: Stop orbiting the girl. You have already lost. Orbiters rarely become lovers. Even if you can get some relationship going with her, you'll never be respected.
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 11:52 AM
9

I live in Northern Europe and feminism here is boiling the frog at the right temperature. Everything that is happening in the US, is happening here as well, but it isn't as much in your face. The divorce rates are almost 50% and women initiate most of them. Recently 50 year old women have started divorcing their husbands in droves. The female nature is the same everywhere. In some places they just know how to boil the frog better. It's something to do with culture, I'm sure. People here are so o…
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 12:22 PM
2

Yes and no.. I'm not trying to help him get a girlfriend. That would be pretty cruel, all things considered. I'm just trying to make him understand what's going in the world.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 09:47 PM
15

I give my brother some red pill truths. I think he really needs it. He is 36 and is somewhat confused as to why women just don't want a nice guy like him.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 08:32 PM
15

Carpe Diem; I think the poets got it right. I can tell you right now that wanting to start snowboarding at the age of 40, is kind of out of the question for me. Damn, how I wish I could have done that. Be present when life happens. I don't know how to better say it; So many people just rush forward blindly and miss everything that happens around them. Art is also important. Find great writers, poets or musicians. What ever floats your boat. At age 40 there are often times when I realize that” Oh…
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 08:15 PM
1

2 beings that manipulate and back-stab can't get along with each other? Surely you jest.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 10:53 AM
1

That's a great comment. I agree. What I was thinking about with the charade, was the cultural aspect of it: The one true love, idea of woman committing to her husband for the rest of her life, the loyal wife...etc etc... This is the kind of stuff we get from our culture and feminism has amplified it to nth degree (men must make up for millennia of oppression. She deserves the best...etc etc...). All of this makes the man work really hard and gather lots of resources. In so many ways our western …
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 10:51 AM
1

Yeah. It's quite amazing how long the charade lasted though. The material abundance of industrial civilization and feminism ended it finally. I wonder though..If this is the kind of genie they want to put back in the bottle when all is said and done. The charade served them well in less abundant times, and it looks like we might be headed towards less abundant times the way things are going.
/r/MGTOW18/08/16 07:27 PM
8

It's not even punishing women for feminism in our case. We are simply walking away. They dug their own grave. I'm personally simply not helping them out of the hole they dug themselves in. There is this great quote by a writer (whose name and gender I forget. Might have even been a woman..How fitting..) that stuck with me.. I'm paraphrasing :” There is no greater enemy than the one you created yourself.” That's the kind of enemy one loves to fight! What a great challenge..., But in reality there…
/r/MGTOW17/08/16 09:25 PM
21

That point number 12 is very important one in my opinnion. It's what the French existentialist, Jean-Paul Sartre wrote a lot about; We are afraid of our own radical freedom. It causes angst and uncertainty. But it is also almost intoxicating. But most of the people on this planet are afraid of their own freedom; ”Tell me what to do! What is the right thing to do?” The fundamental lack of essence. ”Existence precedes essence.” - In other words; ”Men are human doings”. We are what we do in life. A…
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 10:25 AM
4

"Youth is wasted on the young..."
/r/MGTOW13/08/16 08:12 PM
15

These endless selfies and the constant attention whoring is getting so God damn tiresome.
/r/MGTOW12/08/16 11:35 AM
2

Sure. I think you should go MGTOW. You understand what women are like and they are not worth the effort. So now you can decide what else you wanna do with life. I mean it's not like we are running out of things to do. The world has never had this much activities and interests. You can learn history at a local library, go rock climbing, hiking in nature, play amazing video games or go spelunking if that's your thing..etc etc... For a man who figures this out, the world is his oyster. There is so …
/r/MGTOW10/08/16 12:39 PM
1

You are free to create your own meaning and purpose.
/r/MGTOW10/08/16 09:45 AM
8

I'd argue that in one sense they do care about MGTOW; We all know the whole ”Alpha fux and and beta bux” -thing. The mating strategy of the modern female is, that she has ”fun” in her 20's and goes for a soft landing in her 30's. The more men that go MGTOW, the more the soft landing turns into a crash landing; i.e. No beta's there to catch her. When modern woman reaches her 30's what Nietzsche wrote about women comes true :”Man is the means, child is the goal.” This is not good for the female im…
/r/MGTOW10/08/16 08:50 AM
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I can spend more of the limited time that I have on this earth the way I want to. Once my daily work is done, it's "me time" the rest of the day. And I also happen to like my work as well. Winning!
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 08:43 PM
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Short answer: Initially, yes foreign women are better than American women. I am not an American, but I live in a University town in Europe and we sometimes get American female foreign exchange students..These women......I can say this to you my American brothers: I understand fully why the MGTOW is growing there. These American bitches are obnoxious. I can't stand them at all; Selfie taking attention whores that can't even stand still at a buss stop. Sweet Zombie Jesus! In some ways Finnish wome…
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 01:18 PM
2

Female nature is what it is. Respecting it? - Sure, why not. But the respect isn't the kind of respect that you would perhaps expect and what you will get from emasculated men. It is pretty impressive (in a fucked up way) how they turned my country into a matriarchy. They even turned a labor party into a feminist party recently. Feminism and female values are now everywhere. Living in my country, is like living inside of a passive aggressive vagina. The Borg hive is now complete. They imposed fe…
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 10:39 AM
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These articles still revolve around shaming men. It'¨s a bit amusing. I live in a society where they have to start shaming boys at a very young age to turn them into ”hard workers”/slaves. It took me some years to see the programming and once I did, shaming stopped working on me. It was like seeing the code in matrix. You just shrug it off. ”So this is how the society works when you're a guy..Pretty interesting. ” - And then you move on from that. One thing women and feminist men have forgotten …
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 11:51 PM
2

The feminists in my country mostly only allow male migrants to come. So more cocks in the carousel. Foreign women that do come here, are like Muslim women, who live inside the house and don't even get to go out. So migrant women rarely get any benefits of feminism here. Although lately some of them have started to divorce rape their husbands. So I suppose they are starting to figure it out.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 05:51 PM
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Over here it happens even with girlfriends. The men in this country are so pussy whipped it's not even funny. They can't do anything without their women and if they can, the women tag along as matriarchal overlords. The women though can go to bars, cheat on their men and bang strangers as much as they like. This place is a crazy matriarchy. I can't believe we once fought off the Soviet Union. God knows it wouldn't be possible today.
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 11:32 AM
2

Yeah, that does sound like what most of the guys here do too...One way to pass the long dark winter.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 08:17 PM
3

It does sound like you worked here, heh. But yeah the women here are pretty horrible and they only get worse as they age. Imagine being married to one of these witches...Kinda explains why suicide rates here among men are really high.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 03:43 PM
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I don't think this is a shit test per say. This has been going on for decades now. The recent refugee/rapefugee crisis is being politicized by feminists. They think that they can hold a few feminist seminars and courses to the refugees, and that they will adopt feminist value systems like men here have. They are drunk with their own power and basically believe that their vaginas have some sort of magical power to make men do what they want. The feminists in my country believe that they can use t…
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 06:54 PM
5

So far, so great. Don't need a shrink to tell me that. Been single for 15 years. No regrets :D
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 05:11 PM
5

"How can you know anything about a river, when you are not a river yourself?" -I swam in it. The current was strong and the water cold.
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 04:14 PM
4

Yeah, they do that in Finland as well. The women even mock their husbands in public at times. There are government studies that clearly state that women run the relationships with iron-fists..The country is basically turning into a matriarchy and is undergoing a slow motion economic collapse as well. Basically the western women nag the white men to do more; To give them more time, resources and everything.. That's really what it comes down to; Female nagging gone overboard. It's now at state lev…
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 04:05 PM
2

My own position to MGTOW is that I am doing this simply for myself. I don't expect this to lead to anything big socially. How ever reading comments like the one here, has me re-thinking the whole thing. If they have to resort to shaming and ridicule, then this is already having psychological impact. I didn't think it would be the case. I mean if MGTOW doesn't matter and it's just for losers, then no one would be paying attention. There would be no reason to make fun of it. Kinda like what it was…
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 11:10 AM
2

40, Finland (Northern Europe)
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 12:07 AM
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Random thoughts on PUA's : -They are selling the same product as females (pussy) and using some of the same tactics: Shame (can't get laid), elevating the price and experience (sex as transcendental experience, the giver of purpose). Do these things to get the product: PUA: Buy our books, be an Alpha etc.... Female: Oh just be yourself, be sensitive, but tough and manly etc.... The Product is totally worth the effort: Be an Alpha and ride the same bicycle that has been ridden a 100 times. What d…
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 11:45 AM
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Women can't seem to comprehend that no man wants to be with a middle aged hypergamous hippo. I've had some of these come after me, when they realized I was still single. Sweet Zombie Jesus! 40 year old fatties still think they can do better, even though at their age even the manginas start to look away. I've had to quit one of my hobbies because there were 40 year old hippos there trying to flirt with me. These articles are a desperate attempt to turn the tide of biology around, by using shame. …
/r/MGTOW03/08/16 10:29 AM
3

Oh, I love those Camus quotes. He is my favorite writer thinker as well. :)
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 11:07 AM
3

You have to remember that Molynuex isn't a philosopher actually. He basically has no formal education in philosophy. It sometimes shows. He often uses sophistry in his arguments (ironically the Greek philosophers among Socrates thought sophistry was basically just mudding the waters and distraction of truth.). His book on voluntarist ethics was actually reviewed by a professional philosopher and turns out it didn't quite cut the mustard. Molyneux has his own personal philosophy of anarcho-capita…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 10:59 AM
8

Well it's like Top Dollar said in one of his videos a year a go; Feminism is a spent force by now. It wont help these women to land a husband. They can yell and march all they want, but that's not gonna put a ring on their finger. So now they are ”anti-feminists”, ”redpill-women” and so on... They'll pour honey in our ears to get that ring of power. But they will also keep all the benefits that feminism has given them. So what we'll see in the future, is an ever growing army of NAWALTS, who'll s…
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 02:31 PM
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I went monk mode 15 years. Reason: I mostly simply can't stand my countrywomen. They are horrible people. They've always been really bitchy ( I think it's the climate here. Only bitches survived.), but feminism has also made them bitter and resentful. White women tend to be really entitled and expensive to maintain. Almost all dealings with them are also taxing to your soul/spirit, what ever you wanna call it. With Finnish women you always pay, it's just a question of currency and timing. They u…
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 12:13 PM
3

Signal to her that you have low value.
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 08:58 PM
1

Yes, because they are useful to you. They help you attain your goals.
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 08:57 PM
2

But is she angry, or just really frustrated though? I mean like you said, she is trying to lure in the rich alpha. The problem is that she is catching thirsty betas. The wrong catch! Heh. Kinda like in fishing when you catch some small fish. The bait goes to waste. What this girl is doing is not much different; Her honey trap is attracting the wrong fish (or wrong bicycles, if you will). So, naturally she is frustrated. Her honey-trap also is only good for so many years. She better attract the f…
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 05:05 PM
2

Do you believe ideal humans are possible? Menschliches, Allzumenschliches Do you want to live your life in servitude? Serve the state, the corporation, the woman? All of whom view you as disposable. What kind of servitude is ideal one?
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 11:14 AM
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No, the default female position towards men isn't hate, it's indifference. Kinda how like man views a tool. Otherwise it would be impossible to ghost women. Ghosting women is quite easy. Most men are almost invisible to women anyways (garbage collectors, janitors, homeless and so on...) You can also use the tricks of the PUA in reverse and really become invisible to women. It's a good way to avoid head ache's. Even some rich men ghost women. When I ghost women, I sometime s(rarely though) get ri…
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 11:03 AM
2

I couldn't really finish that video. One thing to keep in mind, is that comics have flirted with propaganda and ideology before. (Just go look at superdickery site). It's no surprise that they would start going feminist, and indeed they have gone feminist for a long time. They just reflect the current, dominant ideology in the society at large. Also the golden age of comics is gone already. it's dying art form. In my mind it peaked with Alan Moore's Watchmen (horrible movie adaptation though). M…
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 12:22 PM
1

Yeah, exactly.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 06:05 PM
2

If each of us is a fortified castle, she had just raised her portcullis. I rode forth on my horse, without armor. Oh my God...This guy..Even the language he uses is that of a white knight. Jesus. Commitment is not the opposite of freedom; it is freedom’s finest hour. And this dumb ass said he had read Sartre. Did he understand a word? Marriage is an institution, the opposite of being free. Some of these "smart" guys are dumb as door nails in real life. They pedestalize"their" women, rationalize …
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 04:30 PM
2

I wonder if the sexual fantasy/fetish is there to help them overcome the subjugation. Turn the actual female domination into a fantasy. And in a way isn't that what white knighting itself is? - A fantasy? "I heroically protect a woman and she will see my worth and appreciate it." and behind his back she is banging a Chad.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:31 AM
2

You have to be really careful with them. One of my friends is a male feminist as well, and I can tell it's a huge burden on him psychologically. I mean this guy wants to go white knight for Anita Sarkeezian and he lives on a different continent than her. He might as well go white knight for squirrels while he is at it. Imagine that kind of emotional baggage that they carry within. That makes male feminists really difficult to deal with. I personally avoid all that stuff with my male feminist fri…
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 04:21 PM
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A lot of the white knighting is also a way for males to protect their own psyche. Red pill is painful, as truth almost always is. it tells them, that there isn't any "special one" waiting for them and that they are disposable to females. It's difficult to live with that truth in the modern world. If people let go of romance, then how are they going to find meaning in their lives? The whole thing becomes an existential crisis. So it's safer to white knight.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 04:13 PM
1

You have to understand that they have adopted a different religion and value system than you. It no longer matters what the reality is (like the fact that Nordic countries are the most "gender equal" in the world. Facts don't matter to religious fundamentalists). So if you treat them as religious nuts, it all becomes easier to understand and to deal with.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 10:01 AM
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Feminism really is the answer. You have to understand that large part of the population in northern Europe has adopted feminist value systems. It's the same as an organism losing it's immune system. No matter how strong the organism is, if it doesn't have an immune system it will get sick and die. That's what's going on in Northern Europe. People can't resists, because they don't have it in them anymore. I doubt the situation is reversible.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 09:57 AM
1

Well, the problem there is that so many so called "Christian" groups/churches have -- in one way or another -- become so completely watered down, feministed, co-opted by multiculturalism, even post modernism, etc... Same as here then. They are openly inviting their own destruction. About the only thing that can save them here, is that the money runs out before they can give it all out.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 09:53 AM
1

Thanks for the info. I'm waiting and watching to see what happens to Sweden. It's the canary in the coal mine for me. When it collapses, I figure I have about 5 - 10 years before things get really bad over here as well. I'd also like to find an area that still has Christians. I think Christianity forms a natural, sort of "immune system", if you will, against certain other, ahem- less desirable religions. I just listened to Ingrid Carlqvists interview. She was pleading men to save Europe. "You sh…
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 10:21 PM
1

My point though was that they were essentially being "gifted" what majority of the general (native-poor-white) population of those same nations would probably sacrifice something rather substantial to have the opportunity to live in -- individual, luxury vacation cottages. And while it is true they were out in the "countryside" it's not like they would be entirely "isolated" from their own kind... being as there were in fact a couple of BUSLOADS of the fuckers, and they were being offered cottag…
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 01:43 PM
2

Yup. Can't recall if it was Sweden or Finland where there was the "standoff" where the gimmegrants REFUSED to leave the bus because the housing being offered them was (Gasp! How barbaric!) a bunch of (luxury, vacation) "cottages" out in a rural, small town area in the north of the country. Still can't figure out why the "authorities" didn't just shut the damned engine on (and thus the heat on) the bus OFF. The gimmegrants would have exited that damned bus post haste once the cold set in at night…
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 01:09 AM
2

Yeah, I think you maybe right and they'll leave after the welfare system crumbles. I mean they are not here because of the climate. Once the wealth goes away, life here gets difficult. Yes! Not ”paving”, but ”clearing”. Thank you. ”Paving” sounded odd to me too, but I couldn't come up with the right word. It is really sad. Especially for people who are 40 years and older. We still remember what the country used to be and now it's imploding on itself. Each passing day the country gets deeper into…
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 10:10 PM
2

Haha! Well carpets are sexist anyway.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 09:37 PM
1

Sounds about right. In my country the Somalia will come to her... She won't have to go far for that type of excitement any more.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 07:53 PM
2

Well, there's also the argument that TFM makes: You can train the dog to be housebroken. But then again, in a state feminist society, the female nature is unleashed. So they will pee on your carpet no matter what.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 06:51 PM
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Under no circumstances. In the west relationships with women are Russian roulette at best and suicide at worst. It's over. Let it go man.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 06:46 PM
1

Yeah, could be. I think your regular North American guy is of higher status than regular Finnish dude. The women here always complain about how boring and mundane we are.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 06:42 PM
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Most Europeans are just like the Romans at the end of their civilization; As long as the bread and circuses are on, then things must be OK. Very few people understand how bad things are and how bad things are going to get. Mostly older people understand, like my father who is 70. I for example, only keep 20 Euros in my wallet, so if some ”pleasant cultural-enriching rapefugee” decides to relieve me of my wallet, I wont lose much money. Next step is to buy a dog for protection and companionship. …
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 06:37 PM
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I witness this with my own eyes. My former hometown in Finland is pretty small; about 32 000 people live there. Mostly ethnic Finns lived there. When I was teenager, 3rd wave feminism hit the country pretty hard. We didn't have much immigration before that. Now when I go take a walk in my former hometown it's full of Somali's and Muslims. They have no jobs and don't speak Finnish either. They are just living of the state and the town. The town is so broke now, that they are talking about not pav…
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 05:44 PM
1

There's that, true. If you're a foreigner (North America preferred), then you could have fun with the girls here. I could imagine Roosh type of PUA getting laid a lot here.
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 05:19 PM
2

Take this for what it's worth; I realized a while a go that the last feminine woman I met, was at my grandmothers funeral. I was almost shocked to actually be in presence of one. That's how big the difference was to your ordinary woman here. Anything feminine is a shock! I was briefly attracted to her, until I realized it was just an act that she had to put out for the older men and women. To make them remember the country as it used to be. In my country (Finland) most women are angry men. And t…
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 03:19 PM
11

"Fuck white people". -It wishes, because no one will touch it.
/r/MGTOW18/07/16 01:14 PM
1

But those simps and bluepillers also witness how their fathers, brothers and friends get divorced left and right. At some point their self preservation instinct will kick in. It's far stronger than the urge to mate. And we also have sky high unemployment rates in Europe and North America. Not enough beta bux available for status driven western women.
/r/MGTOW18/07/16 10:29 AM
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Civilizations rise and fall. Sure it sounds dramatic and all, but we still have our life's to live. European civilization was in decline long before the immigrant invasion. What is the EU itself, other than a pathetic attempt at resurrecting past empires? We had our Empire 2.0. But this time with more empathy, feminism and human rights. "We came, we saw and felt really bad about it." -Once more with feeling. It was never going to succeed. Empires aren't for those with weak stomachs and feminine …
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 09:08 AM
2

Well, quite so. It's basically just admitting that ;" I am a victim of my own stupidity."
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 10:26 PM
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The product is lousy and used. So they keep raising the price! Wonderful logic.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 09:09 PM
1

Well, when you put it like that, it sounds less exciting! Heh. But still, I wanna see how this shitshow ends. It's gotta be amusing.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 08:13 PM
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Yes. Well said. I personally find these ”sympathetic women” to be some what funny as well; They are like the firefighter who arrives at the scene after the house burned down: ”I'm here now! Ready to lend aid.” ”I have some water! Don't you want some water?” - The house is in ruins, and turns out it wasn't worth saving anyhow. Besides...Sympathy? At this stage..Is that all you have to offer? Marriage institution was there for the cupcakes and they ran it to the ground, just because they could. An…
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 08:08 PM
2

You're like firefighter that arrives at the scene after the house has burned down. Water, or in this case sympathy, is not something that has any use now. Feminism already burned the house down (The west), all that is left to do now, is to figure out what do with the ashes. In the grand scheme of things, hate and sympathy are now useless. What I am interested now, is to figure out where this path leads. I'm more excited about that. I have no time for hate, when there is something interesting on …
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 05:05 PM
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Looks like Top Dollar was right (he has an excellent youtube channel), MGTOW will get it's own groupies. What joy! Honestly, lady (if you are a lady) you should go write and talk to the men that are still working on the plantation. You're kind wasting your breath (or ink, or virtual ink) here. It won't even be appreciated. So why bother? If you want to be a groupie, then go hang out with the MRA's. They are always looking for more females. You'll get more attention and validation there.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 04:42 PM
2

Oh I just go along with it, when my relatives ask me about marriage :"Some day Bicycle, you're going to meet a nice Fish. - Oh gosh, I sure hope so...etc" And then I laugh a little inside.
/r/MGTOW14/07/16 09:30 AM
2

It's just what it is. I kinda think it may become harmful when a woman is 46, has 2 teenagers and is still looking to branch-swing to another guy. Marriage doesn't stop hypergamy. But water is wet, the sky is blue and a woman is hypergamous. It's what it is.
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 10:33 PM
9

I mostly just ghost them. It's just a hell of a lot easier that way. No head aches.
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 10:29 PM
9

It's reading things like this that make think, that the single mom epidemic is about to turn really weird in a decade or so. Imagine herds of 5'5 landwhales waddling around, escorting their 6'3 ”little Joe's” to soccer games.
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 03:43 PM
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I'm not on strike. I am living my life. If someone wants to waste their life providing for an ungrateful woman, then it's not my problem. If that's the only thing that gives meaning to your life, then some introspection is in order, me thinks. Being on marriage strike, is like being on hunger strike on death row. The idea is to end the death row, not make it more "humane". But, hey, maybe that's just me. Maybe every man really needs a nagging wife to make their lives have meaning.
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 02:52 PM
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Seriously? You choose MGTOW forum to peddle this NAWALT crap?
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 02:16 PM
3

Of course they don't. That's what the government and the feminists can't admit. The average Swedish man is a decent human being.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 08:01 PM
3

Yeah. Feminism is like the kobayashi maru of shit tests.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 04:22 PM
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You have to remember what feminism is actually all about: Female nagging gone global; Men must do more for women! Someone call Emma Watson! Now obviously the immigrants/refugees have no resources, so bitching about them yields no more resources for women directly. On the other hand feminists can try to use the refugee crisis to extract more resources from Swedish born men. And indeed that's what they are doing in my country as well (Finland). So the obvious hypocrisy is kinda what you would expe…
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 12:30 PM
2

"Collapse now and avoid the rush." -Thats kind of what I'm doing. This level of consumption is going away. One way or another. The world is running out of resources. So things will change despite of what MGTOW does. So it's better to get used to living more frugally right now, while it's still an option. In the future it will not be an option, it will be the only lifestyle available for most of the people. The consumer binge that your typical western cupcake is overdosing on, is coming to an end…
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 09:12 AM
1

Great post!
/r/MGTOW29/06/16 07:50 AM
1

Not for long, no. It's not even possible for regular people any more. EU is up to it's eyeballs in debt. The state, the banks, the municipalities, the cities...Europe is drowning in debt. Plus all those refugees that need welfare checks. Soon they will use the middle class as the piggy bank. I know that,that means breaking the social contract, but they are out of options. What they tried to do first in my country, was to squeeze the lower class people. It didn't work. People at the bottom have n…
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 10:10 AM
1

I'm really sorry to hear that. Hopefully you can stay in your boys life's as much as possible.
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 07:12 AM
1

But does the modern woman even know how to let someone be the captain, take the lead? To a modern feminist woman, that would be "un-natural." After all, these women have grown up in feminist households.
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 07:11 AM
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Some random thoughts: I think it could be worse for Alpha's in some ways: You guys don't yield, so when women try to pussywhip an alpha into being a submissive beta provider, things will go tits up. She can't turn him into a beta. So lot's of arguing follows. Usually beta's start to submitting at some point, just to make the nagging to stop for a while. Maybe the successful mating strategy of the alpha is: 1. Impregnate a woman. 2. Get the hell out of dodge. 3. Let some beta raise the child thin…
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 09:11 PM
1

That's exactly why they use humor; To deflect reality. It's too horrible to contemplate otherwise.
/r/MGTOW27/06/16 07:04 AM
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What do women want? - More.
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 08:13 PM
29

Humor is a coping mechanism. My father uses it too. They know they are screwed.
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 01:28 PM
9

Same thing happened to my heavy metal band: The singer/vocalist got one-itis and the next thing we knew, the guy could only attend band practices once per month. The woman wouldn't let him have a life. It's funny how these tough heavy metal guys ´get pussy whipped so quickly.
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 06:57 PM
2

True. And the global oil production probably peaked in 2005. So those boom times are never coming back. But more than those boom times, some men seem to miss those 50's house wife's. Those same wife's who got bored, burned their bras and jumped on board with feminism.
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 05:25 PM
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Indeed. That's what I try to tell these depressed blue pill beta drones; Feminism accidentally freed men. We don't have to provide and protect for some ungrateful bitch anymore. Do what you want! This is the unintended consequence of feminism. Every political movement has those. Feminism is the seed of it's own destruction. Women will have to provide for themselves as the state goes deeper into bankruptcy with each passing day. Oh, and those migrants that they love so much? Who are morally super…
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 07:38 AM
1

Oh my God! Hahahaha! Well, good luck to this guy. He is going to need it.
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 02:46 PM
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But this is the world they fought for. Tooth and nail. If you are a man and suggest to them that riding on the cock carousel might be damaging psychologically , then you're a miso...Ah you know what? Fuck it. I can't even complain anymore. It gets too tiresome and repetitive. I think I'll go for a walk instead. It's mens fault anyway! (Somehow!)
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 12:26 PM
2

Not with a Finnish woman, or a western woman in general, no.
/r/MGTOW20/06/16 05:52 PM
1

Yeah bail ins are coming. We might even get high inflation down to road, or even hyper inflation. The EU has miss managed the economy that badly. A lot of the women also live in a safe bubble. They can't understand the uglier nature of the world. There was this Finnish mercenary that a woman interviewed here. She was in complete shock as this soldier of fortune told her what kind of men were coming in with the refugees. (Hired guns, war criminals, thugs, rapists...etc) They just can't comprehend…
/r/MGTOW19/06/16 07:03 AM
1

Those are guys that I happen to know personally. They aren't MGTOW in name, but they are guys who couldn't bother with dating at all.
/r/MGTOW19/06/16 06:53 AM
2

”He contends that I am an ignorant naïf. I think, as someone who passed GCSE history based on repeated viewings of Blackadder, I should be congratulated for trying to understand anything. He thinks I should be punished for not already understanding. I think he should appreciate how far I’ve come and that not everybody starts from the same educational or any other kind of base – but, oh wait, isn’t that just the problem of all Tories everywhere ever? ” Oh boy. I hope that's her attempt at humor. …
/r/MGTOW18/06/16 07:55 PM
2

These questions kind of assume that women are superior by default. So anyone who disagrees with that is going to be sexist. When did women cease to be human beings, is what I wanna know. You know? Aren't they fallible human beings just like the rest of us. Also, where's the live and let die option?
/r/MGTOW18/06/16 07:10 AM
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I see you live in Sweden. If you want to experience dating and having a girlfriend, you may want to think about not dating nordic women. They are basically androgynous creatures with vagina. Nordic ”women” like to try to dominate men. You can see this clearly in the school system here as well. If you date a Nordic girl, odds are that you are not getting a ”girlfriend” experience. But luckily (in this case) Sweden has lot's of immigration, so maybe you can find some girl who is a foreigner and a …
/r/MGTOW18/06/16 07:02 AM
1

To quote Bender: "O' cruel fate, to be thusly boned! Ask not for whom the bone bones - it bones for thee." Yeah, he should run. Or he will be boned.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 09:36 AM
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In my country, some feminists argue that our language is sexist. I'll eagerly wait to see what kind of changes the feminists will make to my mothers tongue to make it less sexist. I'm sure any changes will be doubleplusgood. But I gotta go, it's time for the mandatory 5 minutes of male hate time.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 07:14 AM
7

I'm 40. I haven't dated anyone in over a decade. I'm at a point now, where I have to actively avoid single moms in real life. There is one that lives in my apartment building and avoiding her advances is getting on my nerves. On the other hand it shows how desperate it must be getting for single moms; even a ghost like me is on their radar. All the "good men" are gone. Heh.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 07:03 AM
4

This is one of the reasons the West wont be a top dog in the world much longer. Our universities are wasting precocious time and resources pursuing non sense, instead of real science. I know that patents in China and India are growing all the time. I think I read some where that China has already passed the US (The Center of the West). So this will have major geopolitical ramifications as well. Hopefully future historians will understand what a corrosive force feminism is, otherwise the next civ…
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 06:07 AM
3

They do it to boost their own ego. In my country bullying is out of control. People even bully in work. It's not limited to schools. Both genders do it. It's just an ego boost for them. If it wasn't you who they were bullying, it would have been some one else. Females get some extra pleasure by ridiculing someone they perceive as weak. No matter if their perception is wrong. It's not really worth getting upset over. Once you stop giving a shit, it will end. Only weak people need others to step o…
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 02:04 PM
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I think you're onto something definitely. I've had similar thoughts. I think it's natures way of taking us to the slaughterhouse. If life has any goals, it is to go on living. It has no use for the happiness or wellbeing of individual, only the species matters. (Schopenhauer seems to hold this view as well). So what our species seems to do, is project a false image of the woman into a mans head, and then off we go to the plantation, following this image. You can even sometimes see young women us…
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 07:10 AM
2

I sometimes pretend I don't speak the language if they try to extract favors from me. If they want me to ask them out, I just pretend I don't understand their cues and hints. I play dumb.
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 12:10 PM
5

They seem to be doing it periodically...Hmm I wonder what that could possibly mean....
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 06:34 AM
1

Alright. Thank you for the reply and the link. This is something that has been puzzling me for a while.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 06:48 AM
2

Yeah, I know. lol. Well luckily governments in the West are busy rectifying this problem. Soon we will have our own feminist air squadron, ready to rain death from above and brew coffee.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 06:34 PM
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Well they tend to offer drama among other things. But then I hear there is this thing called library. Apparently there's some good drama there for free.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 04:48 PM
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I found this comment hilarious: Sounds like you are looking for an excuse to give up and not live your life. Good luck fixing your own coffee every morning for THE NEXT 50 FUCKING YEARS! Is that REALLY what you want? I mean what? You can't fix your own coffee? Lmao! You need a woman to do that? I guess you better get married then. Wouldn't want to fix your own coffee for the rest of your life. On topic: It's your life. You decide what you wanna do with it. You only get to live once. I went MGTOW…
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 02:06 PM
2

That would make sense, but on the other hand there has been a population explosion in poorer countries where the resources are scarce.. Those populations are now trying to flood Europe.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 12:37 PM
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We live in a world where 100-200 species are going extinct per day. If this isn't mass evolutionary suicide, I don't know what is. One of the few species still going strong for now, is Homo sapiens. 7 billion strong and running out of habitat. I would personally think twice before bringing more life to this crowded planet.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 08:59 AM
2

Oh yeah. I just finished Oswald Spenglers ”Man and Technics” the other day, and that was one of his main points; We are indeed animals. Predators to be more exact. Of course we don't like admitting this to ourselves and we have our civilization to keep us from entertaining these thoughts. Surely, in these civilized times we have risen above these animalistic tendencies? -Not so. Just scratch the surface and you'll see the predator.
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 09:09 PM
3

Yeah. I didn't catch that Theroux documentary, so I can't really offer any good comments. All I know is, that alcoholism tends to have it's own dynamics though. It's not always as easy to tell the victim apart from the enabler. There is alcoholism in my family, so I am somewhat aware of the dynamics. Alcoholism is pretty rampant in my country in general and victims and abusers are sometimes the same thing. But to be more on topic: I know that a lot of men hide their illnesses and misfortunes fro…
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 08:46 PM
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Is it possible that young women of the near future will feel pressure not just to look like porn stars but also to perform like robots, ever available and always eager to please? That's the fear, isn't it? It's just like the speech that Tyler Durden gives in Fight Club to other men:” You are not the content of your wallet. You're not the car that you drive...” ...etc.. But that's just it. So many men are the content of their wallet and the car that they drive. They never strive to be more. It's …
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 08:00 PM
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They don't have sympathy. Maybe, sometimes for their children, but that's pretty much it. You can't actually expect them to show empathy, any more than you can expect a dog to talk. It's just not in their nature.
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 07:24 PM
2

Look at the world feminism built. Anyone think this is sustainable?
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 08:40 AM
1

PUA= Pick Up Artist. They are bunch of guys who pick up women, have sex with them and then dump them and move on to the next. It's kind of a hobby/lifestyle, I guess for them. They claim to have perfected the art of seduction and they call it "game". But I don't think they are anything new. These types of guys have existed since the dawn of time. If that's how they wanna live their lives, I have nothing against it naturally. I just personally see no point to it.
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 09:43 PM
8

Oh My God!
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 05:32 PM
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Indeed! But it's to be expected that they wouldn't understand. I'll quote Upton Sinclair: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Just change man to a woman, and you will understand perfectly why women wont understand any critique of marriage. (Cash and prices!)
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 09:27 AM
2

I very rarely read an article how how bad men that just want mad pussy are. Its always stuff against the men who just want to do their own thing. Somehow, the pussy slayers are still getting the pussy, and we are the ones who get blamed for being an asshole? Da fuq? Very good point. In a way the PUA's are still pleasing women; giving them what they want. They please women sexually by being simulations of ”real Alpha's”. They still care about the stick and the carrot that the modern woman in a so…
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 09:05 AM
2

True. And sadly these days telling people that you spent your weekend reading "Crime and punishment" might make you a weirdo in their eyes. What strange times we live in.
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 08:46 AM
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Even if you're well read, doesn't mean she is. I've never met a woman who has read writers such as Camus, Sartre, Kafka, Dostojevsky, Beckett...so on... If you talk about the books you've read at best it's a monologue and at worst she'll get bored like you said.
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 07:52 PM
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I managed to read the first paragraph. That's more than usual when it comes to ROK. Bottom line; I don't give a shit whether or not Return of the Dweebs, or feminists, or who ever accepts the way I live my own life. It's none of their business. I don't go around writing open letters and articles to men who just wanna slay pussy. If that's what you wanna do most in life, then have at it.
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 05:04 PM
2

Ah right. Those stalwart intellectuals who read Harry Potter. What ever would our civilization do without their input.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 07:26 PM
2

Heh, yeah. They are like the new nobility, or the new leisure class. Oh well, I'm sure a degree "in post colonial women studies" will keep them warm during the night.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 03:12 PM
2

All the more reason not to let hem inside the kitchen. (Or the house.)
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 03:10 PM
2

Ouch. The funny/angry part (depends on how you look at it) is that cooking and cleaning are very easy tasks to do. Cooking is even a lot of fun. And they complain about that? These days I wouldn't even let a woman near my kitchen. I'm a lot better cook than your average female. These days I doubt most of them can even turn the oven on. How are these women strong and independent, if they don't have a job, can't cook nor clean? I mean what is it that they can do?
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 09:16 AM
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And who in their right mind would want a feminist housewife? That just has to be the worst kind of hell for a man. "I couldn't make you dinner, the potatoes were oppressing me!"
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 08:22 PM
2

My country already has a draft.(Women can volunteer to join the army. Isn't that nice?) Men are forced to join the army here. I refused to join the army. Learn to kill another men? For EU? There will be a cold day in hell before I go lay down my life for EU. Funny enough, most women here get really pissed off when I tell them I didn't go to the army. Cupcakes still want others to do the killing for them. Equality rocks!
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 08:09 PM
2

I wont deny that. All of those things are good things. What I am thinking though, is that a lot of the things that held the culture together, things that we took for granted are evaporating.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 10:48 PM
6

The myth of Romantic love is the last thing that holds the western cultural narrative together. (Well, that and endless technological progress.) If people lose faith in romantic love, then what does the west really have to offer? Meaningless jobs? Some hedonistic pleasures? But does it offer anything profound? Or just some dead ends? Western culture today is like a hall of mirrors. Each mirror merely reflects the other mirror, just like in Paul Auster's novels. Is there anything behind the mirro…
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 09:06 PM
1

Yeah.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 05:45 PM
2

Yeah, they are really into identity politics in the Bioware land. Biodrones are the worst.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 03:17 PM
12

Feminism has really turned into a religion where the original sin is being a man. But there really is no salvation for this guy.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 11:04 AM
1

Thanks. I'll have to check out HTC Vive. Usually though when a new thing comes to marker, I wait for a year or more, so the prices will come down. I also have to upgrade my modeling software soon too.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 09:37 AM
2

Good for you! :D The more I learn about the breed, the more I like them.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 09:34 AM
2

Thanks! No. My crisis wasn't really related to women much at all. I was losing my religion, and I was starting to realize that many of the things I thought were true about the society and the political system, were lies as well. It was then that I realized how shallow and materialistic women are here. So, it was merely icing on the cake. Women function as a carrot and a whip in this society; In order to tolerate that meaningless job that you have, you do it because of the woman you love. The wom…
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 09:34 AM
2

Well, I haven't been to a doctor in 15 years now. But if and when I do get sick, I have to rely on the public health care system here. It's funded by taxpayers. The public health care system here is undergoing a slow motion implosion though, but I suspect it will function for a decade before it goes kaput. You'll get treated here even if you are jobless, or homeless and uninsured.. It's part of the way the political system tries to legitimize itself.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 09:33 AM
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I have an online store where people buy my products. Some months I get lot's of sales, other months not so much. Some months that means that I have to work extra hard for maybe 2 or 3 weeks to make ends meet. Some months I don't have to work much at all. It takes time getting used to it. I had a small inheritance that I made last for a long time as well. When I don't make much money I cut down all my purchases to bare minimum. I don't recommend this lifestyle to the consumer orientated person. I…
/r/MGTOW01/06/16 10:13 PM
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I realize that I am not your average MGTOW. I'm a Ghost and a Monk. I live in northern european country, Finland. Here's what I've been doing the past 15 years; I went my own way 15 years a go. There was no MGTOW movement back then. I described my view on life as ”existentialism”. I had, what could be best described as severe existential crisis when I was 25. I came to the realization that I didn't want to spend any more time with Finnish women. Marriage and even romantic relationships were now …
/r/MGTOW01/06/16 09:34 PM
1

Agreed. He makes some great content and he has interesting insights.
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 11:43 PM
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I pretended not to understand the cues she was giving and then I played the romantic card :”I'd like to meet you again. Go on a date....” etc. That seemed to calm her down. She didn't question my manhood or anything else. The next morning she was banging at my door actually. I pretended I wasn't home. She left a note at the door. I pretended I didn't see it. End of story. Actually I saw her again once at a grocery store. She didn't say anything, but she looked angry. But after that I never saw h…
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 09:18 PM
1

Heh, yeah. Thanks for the correction.
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 02:02 PM
1

Exactly! It's kinda how a Voice for men turned into a Voice for Vagina.
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 12:08 PM
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They always invade male spaces. Nothing new. Soon tone policing will follow and the rest...
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 12:45 AM
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Yeah. The analogy is even humorous, considering that all money today exists as debt. People used to understand that getting married to a woman is a drain on mans resources. Not today though, since some women now have lighter than air jobs. But also because women have been able to hide this thought from occurring to men. Or you could see women as collateralized debt obligations, or exotic financial instruments that froze up the banks in 2007 and 2008. No one knows exactly what they are worth,( ex…
/r/MGTOW30/05/16 11:39 AM
2

I live in Sweden, and it's going to be a real mess for my generation when they realize they are going to be the generation that got less out of the system that their parents and that they have too foot the bill for the rampant immigration. We are further along that path in Finland. It's difficult even for a middle aged guy to get a career going here. We reached the point, where a college education is actually harmful when applying for a job. Most jobs that are available are for low skilled worke…
/r/MGTOW29/05/16 12:51 PM
2

So despite being the supposed "other half" of your race, women will gladly throw you under the bus just for political/moral/social capital. I was a teenager when the 3rd wave feminism hit the west. They've been throwing us men under the buss ever since. As we can already see, there is a growth in anti-feminist women and even nationalist women. I don't have any facts for this one (mainly because i'm too tired to dig for them right now), but my speculation is this: these women have been voting for…
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 04:26 PM
2

Jesus! lol!
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 02:45 PM
2

Yeah. They are fucked. But it's worse than that. Sweden is probably the first European nation to go medieval. The feminists don't understand what it takes to run a modern post-industrial-information-economy-clusterfuck. The third world immigrants wont be able to do it. Is Ahmed, the goat herder going to keep the power facilities running, when he can't even read? Or maybe there is some footnote in some feminist literature about how to run a nuclear plant, but I kinda doubt it. After all, nuclear …
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 02:38 PM
2

It's really funny too. The entire western world has never been in this much debt. And the women want more free stuff? lol! How many trillions of Dollars or Euros can the governments possibly borrow more? And what for? Free tampons? Hahahah!
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 01:39 AM
3

I know what you mean. There is a certain sense of irony in all of this; The women are largely responsible for emasculating the men. Yes, most of the men here are pussies, but it's their mothers that raised them. The feminists are getting the men that they deserve. And they hate them! Ha! But a lot of the ”real men” that they import are rough around the edges. They have no useful skills and they certainly can't find a job in post-industrial economy. So they mooch of the state. Considering the sta…
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 06:19 PM
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Hate to say it, but maybe getting laid would make these guys a little less pessimistic and resentful There isn't a condition that the almighty pussy can't cure. Antibiotics be damned: Depressed? - Go get laid. Jobless? - Go get laid. Homeless - Better get laid bro. Society not giving a shit about you? - Go get laid. Cancer? - Go get laid. Divorce raped? - Go get laid again. Existential crisis? - Go get laid bro.
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 04:59 PM
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I live next door to Sweden, in Finland. Even here the women are constantly gaining more and more power, but the thing is that they are largely oblivious to their own gains. They control the social reality of the nation already. Now they are gaining political and economic power faster and faster. They've emasculated large part of the male population as a result. There are even government studies here that state clearly that in a relationship women decide everything. Relationships are basically ma…
/r/MGTOW27/05/16 01:39 PM
1

Cheers! :)
/r/MGTOW25/05/16 11:40 PM
1

Oh, I don't know man. If I were a woman, I'd be the worst kind of lazy AWALT there is, or the second coming of Emma Goldman. I think it's best for all involved that I was born a man. ;)
/r/MGTOW25/05/16 11:38 PM
5

I stopped reading after this: They are videos made by MGTOW, Men Going their Own Way, only they never seem to go anywhere. They simply can't stop taking jabs at MGTOW. They always have to get one in. Heaven forbid if they actually had to take MGTOW seriously for one second.
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 07:44 PM
1

You seem to assume that there was a time when gender relations were not too hot, or not too cold. I doubt that that kind of Goldilocks balance ever existed between the sexes. I Don't think gender relations ever were harmonious, nor will they ever be, despite of what Hollywood would like us to believe. I think Nietzsche was right, that we all have a will to power. Men use this will overtly, women covertly. Marry a woman and she'll take control of your life little by little. Just because she can a…
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 02:58 AM
3

Henry Rollins was one of my role models growing up. I really like some of his music a lot.
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 12:47 AM
5

lol. Well good luck buttercup. I'm sure prince charming is just around the corner.
/r/MGTOW20/05/16 10:24 PM
4

Well, he is what he is. Sometimes he has thoughts that I also find interesting. His thoughts on history are quite interesting (I think he studied history). But on the other hand, his philosophical work/arguments are sloppy and are often closer to sophistry than actual philosophy. The guy doesn't actually have a degree in philosophy and it shows. I kind of doubt that he has even studied ontology or metaphysics on his own. I mean he has great enthusiasm, that's for sure. But enthusiasm alone isn't…
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 09:55 PM
2

Yeah, I know. He is a pseudo philosopher. I can't stand Molyneux either.
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 07:01 PM
5

"Much to her surprise, a feminist discovers men are human beings as well."
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 01:55 AM
22

You can't show them any weakness, or they will despise you. Then when you don't do that, they will ask you to be sensitive and open up....
/r/MGTOW18/05/16 11:26 PM
7

"Be a real man, buy me stuff! Me! Me! Me! Me!" What an enchantress, truly.
/r/MGTOW18/05/16 10:52 PM
1

Well as a preface, let me just say that over the years I have developed a healthy disrespect towards Nordic women. Attitude and personality wise, these women are one of the worst female creatures on the planet. I think some of the materialistic Asian women can maybe match Nordic women in terms of bad attitude. When I was a teenager, my mother had shoved the red pill down my throat, but even in my 20's I was still gagging on it. In Finland, women are supposed to be your equals and one of them is …
/r/MGTOW18/05/16 10:43 PM
6

-phew- For a moment there I was worried about climate change. Well thank God I am a man, so it won't affect me as much.
/r/MGTOW18/05/16 04:29 PM
10

All right nice guys! Claim your price! She's ready for you now... What? No? ...I thought so.
/r/MGTOW18/05/16 04:26 PM
5

Well, they do love their attention. One way or another, they will get it.
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 11:29 PM
1

I sympathize with your concern over the predicament where the west finds itself.. But I seriously doubt there is anything we can do about it, The thing is, that right now we can't ”win” in a traditional sense. We can't really reform the west, since that would require bringing women to the negotiation table. They won't negotiate, since they are the most privileged class the world has ever seen. They don't wan't to lose what they have now. (They can lie, cheat and steal with impunity. And people w…
/r/MGTOW16/05/16 05:12 PM
6

Jesus! Rofl! That's just crazy.
/r/MGTOW16/05/16 01:08 AM
2

Why you little!.. strangles Bus9ja2d
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 07:06 PM
0

I think western women just have more opportunities to act on their hypergamy. As for hatred; It implies a passion. I don't really have that any more. I am mostly indifferent towards women, but I still get angry at their hypocrisy. I still have a sense of justice, so I am not a complete nihilist.
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 06:57 PM
1

Yeah, I live in a fairly small apartment as well, but I am planning on getting an English Bulldog in the future. I just have to study more about the breed. Bulldogs don't have crazy amounts of energy, so that suits me. And they are pretty smart too....and lazy.
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 06:24 PM
3

I don't know if things will ever change. This is part of our societal programming. People automatically think that marriage is "natural", even though there is nothing natural about it. It's a man made institution. People are mostly on autopilot. They don't think of these things. Marriage = doubleplusgood. I was at a funeral recently. My brothers aunt asked me if I had a woman in my life. I replied that I didn't. She said:"Don't worry some day you'll find one." I thought to myself:"Yeah, I need t…
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 04:43 PM
1

I don't dream of unicorns. It's pretty clear to me what the female of our species is like. You either deal with her as is, or you don't.
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 10:38 PM
5

So, it's the old nature vs nurture argument. Fair enough. Here's an anecdote that might reveal to you what the situation is in the modern world: We've had some Iraqi refugee families come to Finland and guess what those women do after a while they've been here? That's right, they notice that their men aren't as "domesticated" as the Finnish men are and they are now divorcing their husbands. Womens emancipation. The feminists actually go to the refugee camps and spread their gospel to the middle …
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 03:52 PM
4

I'm not an American, but thanks to that add I now wanna vote for him!
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 09:51 PM
3

I used to go during my purple pill days. I hated those places deep down. Just meat markets.
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 09:33 PM
1

I wonder why, the government was called "the nanny state" in the first place. Clearly this woman sees the government as a God like "Big other", that is somehow responsible for even her weight. The master wish of the modern female; To have all agency removed from her, when it fits her.
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 03:02 AM
2

Well I'm really into 3d modeling, it's basically my part time job now. It's a hobby and a job at the same time. I also like to challenge myself by reading great works of philosophy. I'm currently in the middle of Jean-Paul Sartre's "Being and Nothingness". After that's finished, I'll read David Lewis "On the Plurality of Worlds". I also like reading some fiction. I recently re read H.P. Lovecraft's short stories. I'm also going through the Witcher novels. I also like taking long walks and hiking…
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 12:18 AM
1

Of course they don't want equality. It should be pretty obvious for everyone and it is becoming obvious, that's why they are busy re branding themselves. Feminism is a female superiority movement. They demand and extract more resources from the men and the state. They push and push and push, until there is nothing left to give. But this article made me think of the ”fempocalypse” that GWW talked about; I can't remember who it was that said, that once we inch closer to the fempocalypse (state run…
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 11:23 PM
2

Yeah, thats well said.
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 09:32 PM
2

Good luck buddy! Life does get better later on. I was an angry teen as well. It took me a while to find a positive outlet for that anger; I started playing guitar and heavy metal to be exact. It worked for me. Find out if you can find a positive outlet for your anger. Also, you'll need a place where you can mentally escape to, when your mother is going through the umpteenth Fukushima level meltdown. Video games might be a good place. For me it was books (video games weren't as good during my tee…
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 09:31 PM
12

That's well said. I think it was Spengler who said that "optimism is cowardice".
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 02:49 AM
14

I hope you will get some good advice from other men. I can just tell you that I lived under a matriarchy when I was a teen. My father and younger brother are simps. I actually fought against my feminist mother. I would argue with her, not do her bidding and I think in the end I got nothing out of it. Looking back, I think I would have been better of pretending to be a simp. It's not worth fighting a feminist, even if she is your mother. They will not respond to reason, they are resentful creatur…
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 01:20 AM
1

Good luck mate! What has the world turned into when bachelors are now perceived as being part of a "hate movement"?
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 12:57 AM
22

Haha! Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Some poor schmucks never learn.
/r/MGTOW12/05/16 12:52 AM
14

She's 25. She's looking for an upgrade. Too bad for this guy. But that's life.
/r/MGTOW11/05/16 11:43 PM
12

All these down votes are actually funny. "Oh you down vote my post, I guess I better go and get married then, to avoid this horrible circumstance."
/r/MGTOW10/05/16 03:15 AM
1

Can you find a way to ghost her? If not, just invent things you're busy with: "Oh, I'd love to help, but I gotta go help my brother move...etc" I do this when ever some woman tries to extract favors from me.
/r/MGTOW10/05/16 02:58 AM
1

Good luck! Sounds like a great adventure.
/r/MGTOW10/05/16 01:35 AM
1

Hahaha! What a poor schmuck her husband is. Well, go and make this bitch happy. I'll go have a beer.
/r/MGTOW10/05/16 12:29 AM
17

I recently went to my grandmothers funeral. Only one of her grandsons was married and had reproduced. The rest hadn't. I'm 40 years old and the other guys were in their late 30's and early 40's. I even heard one of my feminist male friends say that he dodged a bullet by not marrying.
/r/MGTOW10/05/16 12:27 AM
1

I've been living in solitude for 15 years now. it will get better, it does. Solitude gives you an opportunity to learn who you truly are as a man. Meditation (if you wanna call it that) and introspection help. I'm at a stage now, that I don't want women in my apartment. Most men live their lives running from one failed relationship to another. They never take the time to learn who they are. An unexamined life is not worth living for, as Socrates put it.
/r/MGTOW09/05/16 11:22 PM
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Yeah, but in reality a good rhythm guitarist is actually far more important than a lead guitarist. Only other guitarists listen to solos (well unless you're B.B. King) or care about them. Rhythm guitarists give the bands structure. Most of us lead guitarists are kind of loose cannons anyway. People like to listen to the songs, not to the lead guitarist masturbating on the fretboard. :D I was forced to be good at rhythm guitar simply because we couldn't find a rhythm guitarist. In reality, all I …
/r/MGTOW09/05/16 01:46 AM
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Oh yeah, I was really into Nirvana too, but I loved bands like Sepultura and Slayer. So I had to practice very hard to learn their riffs and solo's. Good times though. I loved guitarists like Randy Rhoads, Zack Wylde, Slash and Steve Ray Vaughn. Misspent youth well spent, I suppose ;)
/r/MGTOW09/05/16 01:19 AM
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Yeah. I know Sabbath influenced so many bands. They were the pioneers of heavy metal. But back in the day, when I was learning to play the guitar there were so many bands and great guitarists already. Almost too many to listen to and to learn from. That was a great problem to have.
/r/MGTOW09/05/16 12:24 AM
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Thanks for the link. Sabbath was one of those metal bands that some how slipped past me. I don't know why. I guess I was into Iron Maiden a lot back in the day. Listening to the songs, I realized what a great bass player Geezer Butler is. But the whole band sounds great! I personally liked a lot of the stuff that Ozzy did with Randy Rhoads and Zack Wylde. I never knew much about his personal life. I just like his music. But man that Osbournes show..I just couldn't watch it.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 11:48 PM
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Yeah I like Ozzy too. I like his music. There was some reality tv show with him and his family. I couldn't watch it because of Sharon. She just came across as a real witch.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 11:05 PM
1

Yeah, I lost 2 good friends as well. At first I was still able to meet them, but only when the wife/girlfriend was with them. So no hockey games are any of that. Eventually I just got tired of seeing them. These men just changed so much and their lives became so empty.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 09:33 PM
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I have never taken any pleasure from watching this civilization die. In fact I am sometimes still depressed because of it. But I also don't think this thing can be turned around. I think in the future we will be seeing major crisis periodically emerge and most people will be waiting for things to go back to "normal". It will be a gradual decline. I'm sure 100 years from now, the last CEO of a company will be thinking that next quarter the profits will be better.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 06:28 PM
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This reminds me a bit of Hegel's master-slave dialectic. What is a master without his slaves? To have slaves is a definition of the master. If the slaves run away, what is he a master of? We know that for the western leisure class, privileged woman, men are tools to be used and things to be owned and discarded. We are her divine right. The very notion of a tool rebelling against her will is absurd. So you can expect more of these feminist seminars in the future, labeling us as hate groups and wh…
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 05:50 PM
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Amen. What more is there to say really? This is what societal decline looks like.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 05:51 AM
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No, they don't sicken me. Most of them live lives of quiet desperation. They don't quite understand how their loving girlfriend turned into a nagging matriarch. I some times ask them to go to a hockey game with me. "I gotta check with my wife...I better go home..She doesn't like it when I stay out too long.." It's a miserable existence.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 04:25 AM
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But can they actually do anything? It was feminism in the first place that caused (some) men to open their eyes. The cat's out of the bag now. They can issue edicts all they want but female nature is now open there for anyone willing to see it. They shot them selves in the foot. No amounts of bans or edicts will make that go away. You simply can't go blue pill again.
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 03:00 AM
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My story is actually quite long, but I'll try and just shorten it: My mother ran our household like a feminist dictatorship. Father worked 10 hours a day, often 7 days a week. Mother nags and bitches him and me all the time. During summer vacation, I would live with my grandfather and grandmother and life was 100 times better. My grandfather was firm, but respectful. He was WW2 veteran, so he commanded respect. I loved him very dearly and my grandmother. God bless their souls. I realized that pe…
/r/MGTOW08/05/16 12:22 AM
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It's 400 a.d. Rome again. Women are promiscuous. Men refusing to marry and the barbarians are at the gates. Some are already inside the gates. Once the welfare runs out, pillage and plunder will follow. In Europe women are getting harassed, but what they don't tell you is that they are getting robbed as well. Sexual harassment is used to confuse them while they are being robbed by immigrants. That tells you how desperate things are. The cops can do 2 things about this: Jack and shit. And Jack le…
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 06:44 PM
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Well it's not surprising. Their movement always sought to destroy male spaces, where we could discuss about our experiences. So of course they go after the digital space as well. Instinctively they know that if males are allowed to share their experiences on women, we wouldn't deal with their bullshit. Because we would realize that their behavior is not our fault. We would not see them as angels, but as fallible human beings. Simpin would come to an end. This is something feminism simply can not…
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 02:15 AM
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You can't put humpty dumpty together again.
/r/MGTOW06/05/16 02:54 PM
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When it comes to fiction, I can't recommend "Sinuhe, The Egyptian" enough. It's very MGTOW/ red pill. It's a great novel as well. Very well written. You just need to find a good translation. :) Written by Mika Waltari
/r/MGTOW06/05/16 01:37 AM
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Jesus! 6 year old? A 6 year old?!?! Truly sickening.
/r/MGTOW05/05/16 09:42 PM
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Everyone dies alone. This is what the German philosopher Martin Heidegger pointed out. We all die our own deaths. No one can die our deaths. Death is part of what makes us an individual. "DaSein is towards death".
/r/MGTOW05/05/16 01:22 AM
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You go girls!
/r/MGTOW04/05/16 09:37 PM
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A youtube user, Finger University made a pretty good video about this. Check out his channel. I mean we are just checking out. There's nothing hostile about us, but on the other hand, if you walk away from society then people in society may have to ask some difficult questions. "Why are people walking out? Is something wrong here?" - Rather than doing that, it is easier to label us as a hate group, or as losers and what have you.
/r/MGTOW04/05/16 02:37 AM
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I think this is where a lot of their resentment comes from as well; They wan't to be free and independent, but can't really do it. It's simply easier to just find a man to support you. So, they resent the man that supports them and they resent themselves for having to rely on that mans support.
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 02:09 PM
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You can say that again!In my country even some of the feminist men go their own way, kinda. One of my friends is a feminist and he often talks about "dodging a bullet" when it comes to his former love interests. The guy is 38 I think. Never been married and has no interest in marriage. My brother 36, complains that he can't find a reasonable woman, so isn't married.
/r/MGTOW01/05/16 05:17 PM
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That sounds pretty bad. There are lot's of thirsty beta's here as well willing to buy women drinks. I think they do this simply because they don't know any better. It was actually sad thing to watch these guys pander to women who clearly had no interest in them. I never bought women a drink in my life, because I was a purple pill guy. I had seen how my mother drove my father to almost suicide, after he had lost his job. I had to go find him at the train tracks, where he was waiting to get hit by…
/r/MGTOW01/05/16 04:17 PM
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It's strange. I came to the same conclusion when I turned 25. I still remember sitting at a nightclub and asking myself."What the hell am I doing here? I don't like the music, the drinks and I especially don't like the girls here." So, I stopped going there. A lot of the Finnish women don't even pretend to act caring, so at least it's more out in the open.
/r/MGTOW30/04/16 01:54 PM
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Hehe! just like my friends Beagle.
/r/MGTOW29/04/16 08:30 PM
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Cheers. Finland is not as bad, but bad enough. Thanks for the advice. Much obliged. I'm trying to learn as much as I can about bulldogs before getting one. Beagles are absolutely adorable, but I can't have one in my appartment. They have so much energy, so it's not a good place for them.
/r/MGTOW28/04/16 09:13 PM
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I'm a Finnish guy and I am pretty much the same way. The last time I was in a club was 15 years a go. I was 25 back then. I like going for walks and reading books at my appartment. I'm on my own and I am fine with this. I imagine I'll do this till the day I die.
/r/MGTOW28/04/16 09:02 PM
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Sarah Heinämaa, philosophy professor. Took some classes that she had. She is great at what she does. My grandmother who passed away a week a go. She actually seemed to like her husband and even me. A dog called "Rilla". - I was nice to her and in return she was nice to me. - Mind blown. I still miss her.
/r/MGTOW26/04/16 08:39 PM
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She is so adorable! :D
/r/MGTOW25/04/16 11:31 PM
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She is very cute too. Congrats!
/r/MGTOW25/04/16 11:28 PM
1

I never found the anti-feminist stuff very interesting anyway. Part of the reason is, that when they do these rebuttal videos, they use footage from Lacy Green or Anita. I just don't wanna listen to these women, even in a rebuttal video. I think one of Sargon's rebuttal video lasted 3 hours. OK, feminists are crazy, we get it. Let's move on. But I do like anti-feminist stuff that guys like Raging golden eagle do. I like his sense of humor and I think his videos are more current. Stardusk and TFM…
/r/MGTOW23/04/16 08:58 PM
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So I've been lead to understand. Although I don't understand what has caused this. Sure the women in Finland are all feminists, but they keep their worst aspects hidden until it's too late for the male to run. Thanks for the advice. I plan to do a lot of research.
/r/MGTOW23/04/16 08:37 PM
2

Everyone dies alone anyway. We all die our own deaths, as the philosopher Martin Heidegger pointed out.
/r/MGTOW22/04/16 10:54 PM
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My friend had a beagle when we were kids. They are absolutely adorable. Good for you. I'm planning to get a dog as well. I'm thinking of English Bulldog. I know they have health problems, but I do like everything else about them. I just have to do some more research on them before I get one. I live in Finland and as I understand women here are not as bad as in Toronto, Canada. But still, I prefer a dog's company over a woman. That's a depressing thought in some ways.
/r/MGTOW22/04/16 10:50 PM
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What helped me personally, was reading some Buddhist writings. You quickly realize that, that beautiful woman that you see, will be a completely different creature 5 - 10 years from now. They are a pathway to suffering.
/r/MGTOW17/04/16 10:21 PM
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I'm 40 years old and I've been more or less ghosting for the past 15 years and I still sometimes get those dreams. "Ah, not this crap again." - Is basically my reaction, but luckily I forget about the dreams very quickly. Key is to let it go quickly. Don't dwell on it. This mythical romantic love is so central to modern western culture, that it is impossible to escape it fully.
/r/MGTOW14/04/16 05:16 PM
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"Men Who will fight for romance and commit quickly and stay indefinetly." Servitude. Is that all you have to offer? "Where have all the good slaves gone?"
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 12:22 AM
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I also loved lego's as a kid. That Millenium Falcon that you also made is so cool. I personally like 3d modeling as a hobby, so I can relate a bit.
/r/MGTOW11/04/16 12:37 AM
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