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Hormonal oral contraception has a regime of 21 pills, and 7 empty days of no pills. To have a continuity of taking pills, certain manufacturers give 7 placebo (meaning they don't do shit) pills along 21 working ones.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/16 02:48 PM
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This is also the Serena Williams who boasted as "not one of the greatest female athletes, but one of the greatest athletes".
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 12:38 AM
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So the woman mentions a paper by Szasz about patient-doctor relations. Let me give you a brief line about Szasz : This started to shift in the 1940s due to what the book calls “dynamic psychiatry” (although they use this phrase a bit differently from how I understand the definition). The old, tired psychiatry was a simple dichotomy between sane people (who don’t need psychiatric help) and insane people (who are totally out of touch with reality and need to be locked up for their own good). And i…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/16 05:09 PM
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[https://youtu.be/JymN5yu-K_o?t=6m18s](At 6:18). [http://archive.is/rxhZK](The bigger issue behind the development of a contraceptive pill for men is that women risk losing control of conception.) And women made several laws like VAWA and Duluth model, destroyed nuclear family, and tipped scales heavily in their balance. If they can shame young men at the height of patriarchy to die for their right to vote (google White Feather), they can ban one single drug easily.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/16 01:08 AM
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Her: "I'm not a slut." Translation: "I'm a slut, just when you're not around." Every, and I do mean every woman is a slut. Will she be your slut, or someone else's - that depends mostly on you.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/16 12:18 AM
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Betas reproduced because women did not choose their own partners. But I would not call betafied marriage any kind of life.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/16 08:56 PM
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Well, I was just joking. I don't bother with "journalists". Who wants to find shit on TRP will find it, even if they have to strawman it hard.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/16 08:55 PM
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Of course it does. Rape is really horrible in its own right. But imagine if I said "rape is horrible". Where would TBP get their outrage porn from. All jest aside, sexual strategy is a neutral term. Strategy to get sex. Some strategies are worse than others, some are downright monstrous.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/16 08:29 PM
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But women do not see the bigger picture... they just see the current situation, react to it, and then come up with some words designed to maximise her outcome ie make her feel good / makes her look good / something other women will approve of / maximise rewards from betas / blame men, etc. Truth isn't even a distant consideration. Yes. Truth is irrelevant. If a man accepts sex as transaction, he is beta. If he is beta, he is unattractive (for sex). If he is unattractive, he is even a bigger beta…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/16 06:31 PM
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I played Ingress before, and it was pretty much the same with landmarks. Ingress and PG are from the same company, so it's really not a wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 06:18 PM
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and hell, I am learning about the historical sites of my city, haha. Same. I've lived here for as long as I remember but I never realized that some of the "banal" landmarks like chapels and crosses are from 10 to 15th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 06:06 PM
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Yeah, fuck dating stuff. I just want my GPS to work normally so I can catch mah pokemans. Also, I really think it's stupid that there are more Pokemons in an urban area, while backwoords forests and villages like mine are suffering one pokeman every 2 kilometers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 06:04 PM
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This is an example of something called "anarcho-tyranny". 1) Let in a bunch of foreign Muslims from a culture that values women like TBP thinks TRP does. 2) Have a rape outbreak or two. 3) Since you can't actually punish foreigners, cause that's racist Islamophobic White Imperialism, propose a law that should protect them. 4) Use the same law to punish law abiding men at behest of manipulative women. 5) Don't actually use the law (since it's raycist) when there is an actual rape scandal not inve…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/16 11:24 PM
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Let me try to give you another story to help you "zen" the message into you. If you still don't understand it, I will explain the story in the last paragraph. There was a story back here from a newcomer. He claimed to be "redpilled". However, he shared that his ex and he (they parted on amiable terms) had a rule : no displays of affection toward others in front of each other. On the surface, this seems neutral and fair. However, men and women are not equal in strategy or desire. By ceding this, …
/r/TheRedPill14/06/16 11:14 PM
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A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side. The two monks glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman. Then, without a word, the older monk picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/16 09:11 PM
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The Hot Barbie scale? ... Wait, HB means Hot Barbie? I legit did not know that. Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 02:17 PM
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I predominantly date women between the ages of 28-32 at this time in my life. I've seen this and put up a major red flag in my mind. Women near Wall are more prone to getting baby rabies. Why would someone aware of RP even do such a thing and then I saw : Oh and the twist. I got the sip at 28, 8 years ago and I've had 4 sterile checks since. Fucking savage.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 09:36 AM
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1) TRP builds upon traditional roles on what is and what isn't attractive in men without the "provider" role. Tradition is accumulated knowledge of all mankind, and it is more than oft (more than not) proven right in the end. Since you're probably American, let me draw the parallel with FDA. The FDA won’t approve a treatment unless some drug company has invested a billion dollars in doing a lot of studies about it. It doesn’t count if some foreign scientists already did a bunch of studies. It do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:14 PM
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The problem is that Overton Window is so far in the feminist's court that any mention of intersex relationship without giving lip-service to how oppressed/awesome women are is considered misogyny. I can advise a female friend about not trusting a husband surrounded by hot promiscuous women daily with "he's a man", but I cannot advise a male friend about not trusting a wife surrounded by hot men daily with "she's a woman". Whenever I take an approach to understanding men, I must either include wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 08:08 PM
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Oh, so your disagreement with that is due to the fact that there is a range of 2-8%, and we cannot really take median (5%) as the referent value? I can dig that, I misunderstood you then. I thought that you silently agreed with 5% being the referent value of false rapes, and then denying that there are three categories (prv.false, prv.true, inconclusive). Well, then I do apologize for misunderstanding you. However, I must question the non-usage of average/median of many studies for any thing eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 01:03 AM
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Four times lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 12:14 AM
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Yes it does. There are basically three categories, provably false, provably true, and inconclusive and they all amount to 1 (or 100%). Provably false are 5% (more like 8 but okay), provably true are 10% (more like 8 but still okay), and the rest are 85%. Now, when you claim "it doesn't mean the minimum [number of provably false rape claims] is 5%" then you basically say that maximum number of false claim rapes is 5%. This would mean that 95% rape claims are true, which is a huge leap from 10% pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 12:12 AM
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In a thread regarding odds of false rape charge, one which is implying that women do lie about rape (please not that I didn't say all women, but merely some) you post a survey based on asking those same women (who've established can and will lie about rape) if they were or weren't raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 12:56 AM
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The report says that claims were false or baseless. False claims are provably wrong. Baseless claims are just that, baseless. I'm aware of that, but in the link says : As with all other Crime Index offenses, complaints of forcible rape made to law enforcement agencies are sometimes found to be false or baseless. In such cases, law enforcement agencies “unfound” the offenses and exclude them from crime counts. The “unfounded” rate, or percentage of complaints determined through investigation to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 09:53 PM
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The 8% figure comes from a miss-attribution to an FBI presentation. The FBI said 8% of reported rape cases were provably false, as that got re-reported the provably part was lost and it became "only 8% of reported rapes are false". Provably false means that by FBI standards of proof the person accused could prove they weren't (for example) even present when the alleged rape occurred. :3
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:49 PM
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There was an older post on PPD, dunno if I can link it, that was absolutely the best thing ever written on this. I don't quite know how to do archive so I'll link it and whatever goes goes : LINK Because no one reads links, I'll post snippets for the tease : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape And indeed, if you look at the studies, they really are all over the place; there’s very little agreement.So why are these so variable? And why is the 2-8% statistic so misleading?The pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:27 PM
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Okay, thanks for the explanation. Also, you do realize the media is also at play here, right? It's an understantement to say I'm not a fan of media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 03:44 PM
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Okay, thanks for the explanation. Suppose a scenario : man and woman have consensual sex. Woman claims rape. He's not found guilty but is still socially branded as rapist. Is there any way that a man can claim retribution over woman through legal means?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 03:26 PM
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Well, I must admit that I have nowhere near law experience to speak with confidence about it. But I always figured that if X sues Y for doing Z, and sentence is passed (which means that he was found innocent, regardless of whether Y is innocent) Y can have some sort of retribution if Z is unjustly claimed. But I repeat, I might be (and probably am) wrong. It's basically woman can claim rape, no sentence must be passed, and she gets off scott-free while he is branded as a rapist. I thought that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:47 PM
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"You must always be cognizant of your Other and always tolerate it" "But, are't we kinda your Other?" "LOL, shut up Nazi"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:44 PM
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I might be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that since your reputation is tarnished, and no conviction was made therefore insinuating that you are in fact, not guilty, meaning that you are innocent. You have a de jure innocent person meaning that he "didn't rape" (in scare quotes since he might or might have not, but was found not to), and that means that she "lied" under oath. Cause if you cannot sue for defamation then it's pretty much she-said-he-said and there is zero legal c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:13 PM
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The guy attacked me first, I attacked him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 12:54 PM
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From the most right wing person on the internet : The world is sick of anarcho tyranny, and hungers unknowingly for the power and authority of Kings. [...] The purpose of due process was supposedly to ensure that the innocent do not go to jail, and the guilty do go to jail. But anarcho tyranny means that with so many laws, the innocent are bound to be guilty of something or other, while actual criminals are deemed the oppressed, and are coddled and protected by the state. Due process lets real c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 10:06 AM
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False rape charge is hardly good faith basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:30 AM
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"So you did something against her will while having sex with her?" "Yes, I did. I did not rape her though." "Fine, we're still gonna persecute you for that crime." ENDING 1 : "Sure, kinda fucked up it's a crime because I have no way of protecting myself." "Suck it up." "BTW, I'm suing the whore for perjury/defamation. That is still illegal in feminist lalaland? Since the aforementioned whore really fucked me and my reputation, I'll invest everything I have into making sure the aforementioned who…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:09 PM
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OK, removed the last part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:35 PM
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Okay. Then say "I don't have any sexual desires or want for sex at all and that pretty much guarantees I'm never going to find someone sexually attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:16 PM
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Totes agree with you on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:16 PM
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Say "I haven't met a person I'm sexually attracted to". Not make up an identity with its own state and flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:07 PM
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incel = involuntary celibate asexual = no sexual attraction and therefore sometimes voluntary celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:03 PM
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Asexuals are either two things. First is a bunch of losers who have to justify their inability to score and instead of going neckbeard MRA they go full retard and see themselves as a special snowflakes, or even start as special snowflakes who rationalize the new in. Second is a mental illness (or at least something that impacts evolutionary fitness hard, like homosexuality) that is not statistically significant and should be ignored and barely tolerated. The Asexuality is an identity and sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:01 PM
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He doesn't suggest anything. It's not his part to suggest anything. It's not designed to give you an option where you're an equal in the eyes of law. It's Catch 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:52 PM
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I know you're just being contrarian, but when someone is sentenced to jail time, their consent is not needed. Never thought I'd have to type that sentence out. Defending yourself against an attack is just... why am I even arguing about this with you? I hope to god you're just trolling me. No I'm not. You have a poorly constructed sense of morality based on "consent", and this is constructed solely around a woman's perspective. If a man tapes his sexual intercourse to prevent false rape accusatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:49 PM
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Strawmans galore. Without her permission means without her verbal permision.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:45 PM
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Taping someone having sex and creating a whole new human being are two very different things, and not what this thread is about at all. They're the same in this scenario. Wo/man consents to sex, not to X. X being parenthood and being taped. That's how general principles work. You cannot have series of unprincipled notions based on fluid sense of what is and what isn't different thing. But if you're taping her without her consent, what you're taping is non-consensual! So? When you vaccinate your …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:31 PM
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I have lots of sexual encounters with women, I don't have to tape a single one of them. And I was never robbed or killed. What do we need police for? Saying that X can't happen because X doesn't happen to you is beyond stupid. Did you catch the whole without her permission part? That's not healthy or natural. I was under the impression that it was without her EXPLICIT VERBAL permission. There's more than one ways to say "yes", and verbal communication is not even the most of human communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:28 PM
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By the same metric shouldn't men have option of financial abortion, after all, they consented to sex, not children. Furthermore, considering that taped sexual intercourse is the only way men can prove their innocence in a false rape claim, it should not be forbidden. Men are then stuck between a rock and a hard place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:00 PM
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I do not consider this behavior to be healthy. It's not. It's not healthy that men have to tape their encounters to stop false rape allegations which are possible and can destroy a man's life. There was a case about a Swedish girl crying rape, then a boy showing video proof. He was sentenced because he "slandered". That it is natural for men to ravage women without their permission, that sooner or later her desire will just kick in and he should go for it. I do not consider this behavior to be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:42 PM
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She consented to sex off camera, more than likely, breaking those terms revokes consent. She consented. Each time when a thread about male financial abortion comes up, one argument is that consent to sex is not consent to parenthood and that argument is being just handwaved away. Why is this different? Has she explicitly said "don't film me"? Did a team of lawyers confirm the statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:32 PM
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RP worldview is kinda simple : 1) Women pursue dual mating strategy. 2) Dual mating strategy is Alpha and Beta dichotomy. 3) Alpha is anyone women want to have sex with or any action/behaviour/personality/fill-in-blank that makes a woman want to have sex with a person exhibiting action/behaviour/personality/etc. 4) Beta is any thing that makes a woman put you in a "provider" role and any sex resulting from there is "duty sex", or in other words, sex has role of a transaction. It's that simple. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:50 AM
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Isn't this pretty much BP's modus operandi?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:39 AM
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You know BP is fucked when they word-twist rape into "anything womyn feelz is rape is rape". No shortage of strawmans and absurd hyperboles there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:35 AM
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I learned that, according to TRP, there is no such thing as rape unless the woman is actively fighting back, and screaming NO at the to of her lungs. Yeah, that's pretty much the only sane definition of rape. Using violence or threats of violence while verbal NO is explicitly given. The "omg I cheated on my BF while drunk RAPE" nonsense if feminist poison of any sane civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 11:27 PM
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eastern Europe? :3 tall, white, westernized, and a little bit exotic :3 But be warned, I'm a hardcore fascist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 10:14 PM
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I take issue with all leftist studies and derivatives of "cultural marxism".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:59 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:58 PM
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This is motte and bailey. The writers of the paper compare this to a form of medieval castle, where there would be a field of desirable and economically productive land called a bailey, and a big ugly tower in the middle called the motte. If you were a medieval lord, you would do most of your economic activity in the bailey and get rich. If an enemy approached, you would retreat to the motte and rain down arrows on the enemy until they gave up and went away. Then you would go back to the bailey,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:48 PM
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More feminism doesn't necessarily mean more women in male centric jobs. I agree, but only because men and women are wired differently, and stereotypes are astronomically accurate. Not because some "patriarchy". If "patriarchy" -> less egalitarianism and more gender divide, then Iran/India would not have more f-engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:43 PM
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Do you mean "Production, transportation, and material moving occupations" where women are 21.8%? I tire of repeating myself : In most of individual jobs I broke down, they're overwhelmingly more than 90 percent male. I handpicked the most productive and necessary jobs a civilizations needs to have. If there are more "useful" jobs (by a sane metric, not "feminist dance theory" professor) please pick them off and show them to me. Besides, why settle for just production when you have natural resour…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:38 PM
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I'm not seeing any studies linked that have found classes which aim to elicit critical thinking don't do that, what I see is a statement that they don't as well as expected, along with a link to a study that found they do, a link to a study asking why philosophy classes don't do a better job, and a description of a study that found liberal arts,including science and math classes, do elicit critical thinking. If a course is marketed as teaching "critical thinking" but is worse in teaching critica…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:34 PM
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In fact, alpha is any behaviour that makes a woman want to have sex with you. I don't know where they pull that shit from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:06 PM
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AWALT is heuristic that is specific only to sexual relationships, and can hardly be applied elsewhere. Analogy with a gun. Remember all guns are loaded. Don't take chances with them. But if you notice that a gun isn't loaded, then you're not going to be overly cautious with it. So, while they claim there's no barrier on women entering mostly-male fields, they don't see that they themselves can be that barrier. All those fields are hard. If you can't handle a stink eye from a coworker, you cannot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 08:00 PM
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So you are basically shifting the goal post from "women are working in productive fields shitlord" to "they're not, but who would want to live in a world where you don't need to be a parasite to live lol". Survival of society is the primary need of any society. Prosperity of society isn't what it being built by women, but being drained.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:56 PM
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No, you are missing the point. He is telling you that those fields do not produce critical thinkers, but liberally indoctrinated robots. Opposite of critical thinkers. Let me just give you select quotes from this: Classes that you might think would teach critical thinking, like logic, or philosophy, or statistics, don’t seem to do especially well he only positive result anyone’s been able to find is that “liberal arts” (here viewed as a broad category including science and mathematics) seems to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:50 PM
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I'm not saying that it's "perfect". I'm saying that it's more "feminist" than India or Iran. So clearly, thesis that "more feminism"="more women in male centric jobs and vice versa" is flawed when you show that countries which have less feminism have more women in male centric jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:41 PM
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In most of individual jobs I broke down, they're overwhelmingly more than 90 percent male. I handpicked the most productive and necessary jobs a civilizations needs to have. If there are more "useful" jobs (by a sane metric, not "feminist dance theory" professor) please pick them off and show them to me. Note that topic of this thread isn't "women don't do jobs" but it is "women don't do productive jobs" and by productive, OP probably means jobs that don't require government cushion to support t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:40 PM
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90% is a rough approximation. There are some that rank lower than 90 percent (like 65 surgeons) but there are a whole lot of others ranking near 100. Besides, I really cannot argue that human resources and other "make believe jobs so we satisfy diversity quotas" are really productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:27 PM
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If only there were some sort of "gender equality index". Plus, this is the main point of The Gender Equality Paradox episode of Hjernevask. Less "feminist" countries like India or Iran (and lol if you think they're as egalitarian as Sweden) have more women as engineers (in percentage) than Nordic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:20 PM
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http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.htm 100% of power plant operators, distributors, and dispatchers are men. 91% of U.S electrical engineers are men. 97.6% of electrical power line installers and maintenance workers are men. 95.5% of water and liquid waste treatment plant and system operators are men. 95.9% of aircraft pilots and flight engineers are men. 98.4% of aircraft mechanics and service technicians are men. 100% of locomotive engineers and operators are men, as are 100% of the workers who o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 07:12 PM
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Well, the fact that all women are "whores" is impossible to intuitively know and embrace. Let me clarify. Suppose that you go tutor some dense kind in math. He has problem with derivations. So you just tell him the cookbook definitions of such (like ax derived is a, or a(x)2 is 2ax or such) and have him just cram it by heart. He now "knows" derivations. Next time, you have him understand the process that led to derivations, and what exactly are they, in plain words. He now "understands" derivati…
/r/TheRedPill11/05/16 12:02 PM
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Except that on the sidebar we have insight in the true face of feminism. It's called Hjernevask and it shows academic feminists in Scandinavia - which is as close as it gets to "Rightful Caliphate of Feminist" in all their glory. Plus, white feather, Solanas, Steinem, Dworkin, etc... are hardly tumblrinas heretical to feminist mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 11:35 AM
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That is the male equivalent to women shit testing us Yep. Men think of Women on a Madonna-Whore spectrum. Women think of Men on a Alpha-Beta spectrum. When he realizes your madonna is a whore, he thinks less of her. When she realizes her alpha is actually beta, she thinks less of him.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/16 08:28 PM
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History demonstrates that my "theories" are facts. Multiethnic countries tended to collapse violently and ethnic genocide occurred quickly after. I should know, I've felt the direct consequences of one such collapse. Ad hominem is a logical fallacy. I can have rational reasons for dislike of someone. You dislike me and my kind, is that also a form of "irrational" hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:19 PM
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Calm down, it was an ill-done joke on whites. It boggles my mind that your kind (white progressives) cannot use heuristics or even understand what heuristic is and differentiate it between a rule of nature and random chance. I mean, you can say definition of heuristic, but you cannot apply it as anything other than a rule. Same thing with AWALT. You take it to mean ALL women are same in a very specific brand of evil. Eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 03:49 PM
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Get discriminated against for being a white male and denied a job because of it and tell me that's good. It's good because the employer practices the right to freedom of association. Rights trump feelings. Get discriminated against because of your race and denied a bank loan and tell me that's good. Your races tends to not pay money back, bank goes bankrupt, economic shit happens. Discrimination good. Get discriminated against because of your race and charged a higher rent and tell me that's goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 03:43 PM
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Of course not, they did all of their slaughtering back during the crusades. Crusades were a series of defensive wars against vicious invaders who conquered 2/3rds of Christian world (you know North Africa and Levant and Anatolia used to be fully Christian) and took males as castrated slaves, women as rape concubines in harems, and brainwashed children into being warrior slaves (something white Christians never did). Your right, now those children would be getting raped by sick f*cks of the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 03:38 PM
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That also doesn't work because if you mix population of IQ of 150 and IQ 90, you do not get IQ 200. And I see no reason why we should race mix against our own will to stop something as silly as "racism". For the past 200 years, racism by whites has been the least of our problems. In fact, lack of white born racism is the majority of our problems. Rotherham rapes of children wouldn't happen in ethnically unified country. The problem is that one side wants to stop racism from one side, and not fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:18 AM
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I mean his point was that it's racist to believe that entire races are inferior. His point was that racism is irrational. Mine was that it is perfectly rational. I do not subscribe to religious where I must avoid racism label.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:18 AM
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We do not preach. "DO NOT MARRY" is not a command by our High Priests, as much as it is a heuristic for "Marriage is a bad deal for men reasons outlined in several spanning RP theory threads I have no desire or will or time to link into one coherent whole". It's a warning, not a command. The latter is a mouthful, so we just say "DO NOT MARRY".
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 01:03 AM
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We should write a detailed and comprehensive topic on why marriage is a bad idea. As far as I know, there really is no such thing, only snippets of examples of divorce rape.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 12:58 AM
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I have no pretensions about myself. I am not special. I am not some protagonist of a Chinese cartoon no matter how much I think that would be cool. The same laws that apply to rest, apply to me. The same rules that others are guided by, guide me too. To tell otherwise is to actively lie to myself. My own instincts are good for short animalistic purposes. But they are fundamentally vulnerable at some academic quakery - as long it sounds good. A proper indoctrination can shell out even the most ba…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 12:45 AM
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There is an easy way to approximate which party has more power within any given agreement. The party who can walk away, is the party with more power.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 12:37 AM
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The reason people bulk at the idea of racial differences having any sort of scientific backing is because historically people used it to justify any number of atrocities that furthered a given agenda. Historically, people used egalitarianism as justification of far more atrocities than equivalent right wing racists. American Civil War, for example, and this quaint episode. Not to mention another explicitly egalitarian ideology that just cannot help itself but to murder violently whenever possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 12:30 AM
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Yes, that is a sort of problem with whites, isn't it? You either march in a black uniform with your right hand high up, or you're bend over as a rape toy to some random Muslim. I mean, when I see a person not from my own group, the first thing I do is a stereotype of the group of that person. Then I judge on individual basis. Sterotype is a heuristic, a rule of thumb. Not stone cut rule. Evopsych in general is descriptive - it says why X is X. It's not proscriptive - it doesn't say X needs to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 12:16 AM
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Sigh Let me give you a brief rundown of your life, provided that you're an average male. This isn't something precisely quantified (reasons for that will be obvious shortly) but I've seen it repeated enough times to make it obvious : You're not high stakes player, but you're no incel either. You can converse with women just fine, occasionally have sex. You trudge through life, work hard, save enough, have comfortable life. You actually don't need a lot of money, some for expenses (but you're not…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/16 12:11 AM
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What if I don't give a shit about IQ tests? What makes them more important any other test? Could it be because... white people have higher scores solving puzzles? What makes it more worthwhile than any other test? What if I don't give a shit about modern physics and think that Moon is made of cheese? In that case, you'd think of me as a pseudo religious retard. The point of an IQ test is to find intelligence. To measure it. PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD AT TAKING IQ TESTS ARE HARDLY GOOD AT ONLY IQ TESTS.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:49 PM
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In what way were they genocidal? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism The subject matter is far to nuanced to have a catch all. A1: The race is a real and valid scientific category with real life implications. B1: No it's not, race leads to racism and racism is horrible! A2: How is the fact that we're on average different horrible? B2: Well, some people smacked darkies too hard and were racist. If we allow racism once again, it will lead to a slippery slope where we'll go full RIGHT WING DEAT…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:43 PM
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To be fair historically racists used different skin color to justify KILL IT WITH FIRE. To be completely fair, people who tended to be egalitarian also tended to be genocidal to the point their actions over 100 years ago are still felt in countries today. I'm more concerned with those people, that some occasional whitey who hit a darkie too hard. From there its a slippery slope to justifying taking away personal freedoms How about an opposite slippery slope? Since people are not inherently more …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:21 PM
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sub human Not human. Look, this is going to delve too far into crimethink to you for even to try to think rationally about (I don't blame you, someone mentions feminism and I'm all like where my RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS at). In every group (race or ethnicity, doesn't matter), there is a distribution of characteristics. There are clever people, stupid people, aggressive people, peaceful people, etc. It's Gaussian distribution brah. But, all people in a group are defined by average and their standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:52 PM
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I can show you more that claim otherwise. I seriously doubt that. Unless it's one of those Brainwash things. NO, we do NOT And "racist" don't believe that different skin color means KILL IT WITH FIRE. Oh and by the way, you can think some group is more stupid, more aggressive, less capable, and overall inferior to your own without denying the humanity of that same group. False dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:23 PM
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I agree with your point, but Einstein was Jewish/atheist/special snowflake deist or something. I think Newton would be a better example. Dude was fucking hardcore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:20 PM
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Slavery was practiced for 400 years on the North American continent, we agree now that it was horrifyingly wrong. Slavery was something that no one could agree over. There were periods when it was normal, and there were periods when it was abhorred. It doesn't show historical consistency as racism and sexism. Racists believe just as fervently that people with a different skin color are less than them, and no amount of rational discourse will shake them from that faith. But that is true. Race isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:12 PM
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It's about basic respect and human decency. And this is as motte&bailey as it gets : The writers of the paper compare this to a form of medieval castle, where there would be a field of desirable and economically productive land called a bailey, and a big ugly tower in the middle called the motte. If you were a medieval lord, you would do most of your economic activity in the bailey and get rich. If an enemy approached, you would retreat to the motte and rain down arrows on the enemy until they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:59 PM
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Likewise with racism and sexism. Any of those things demonstrates conclusively a fucked up belief system. You can't have rational discourse with an irrational believer. Please tell me how "racism and sexism", a belief system practiced for nearly all of human history, bar the last 50 years and only in white lands (still practiced when you avoid "ghettos" and "youths", but you don't say it), is fucked up. And please tell me how differentiation based on something as huge as race and sex is irration…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 09:47 PM
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I highly disagree, and I think this is pedantic. Well, then we have a major point of disagreement then. Your definition of eugenics is far too narrow and structured only to contain the worst possible methods of it. It's sort of like defining only stalinists as communists, and shelving all other communism under vague non-definitions. "My" broader definition is more in tune with the denotation of the word, with eu being good and genos being, well, "genetic stock". Nothing in eu or genos that impli…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:39 PM
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Sexual selection is not eugenics Not every sexual selection is eugenic. But that does not mean that no sexual selection is eugenic. Eugenics is far from killing or forced sterilization. By definition, eugenics is everything that promotes good genetic material. Giving educated women free maternity leave and maternity benefits counts. But the guy you responded to is wrong on one count : Human evolution has ceased in any meaningful sense of the word. EVOLUTION NEVER STOPS. Criteria of selection are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 07:54 PM
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If someone else would like to explain to you why the fact that there are far more men marrying younger women than vice-versa over every demographic proves the fact that it is more statistically likely by a considerable distance that a man will leave a woman for a younger woman than vice-versa No it is not. You cannot infer X from Y, unless you can establish a causal relationship between the two. Foundation of all causal relationships is causation. You first must prove causation, and this is only…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:10 PM
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And hypothetically, what if someone loved Community S1 and S2 but disliked later seasons because they flanderized most of the characters?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 12:09 PM
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Complain how X group is doing bad all while minimizing male issues. You do that on feminism due to "intersectionality" - all issues are equally valid and we start at really bad ones first. Get pointed out that male issues are worse in intensity and absolute numbers. The worst of them all. Complain that solving male issues, which are worse in intensity and absolute numbers, trivializes all other issues. Trivialize male issues. Projection is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:56 PM
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feminist issues" then does that make them white supremacist Gals love a dangerous guy in black.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 07:51 PM
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Oh yea, that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 07:49 PM
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Yes. All those issues are less important as male suicide. Women dying from self-induced abortions isn't as important as male suicide? Unless abortion is illegal, it's not. Even if it were, it's not that important. In India lol Apathy towards the murder if the victim is a woman Is made up. There is greater thought given to crimes versus women than versus men. Murder / suicide of trans people isn't as important as male suicide? Nope. Guess why? There are less trans people killing themselves than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 07:39 PM
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I specifically stated in OP that I would not be messing with that part of the definition. Learn to read. I specifically states "without understanding that it's founded on more than". Alreadyredschool gave you 14 points of fascism. RP fits only on 3. Again, read back through the thread. There have been plenty of RP men in agreement. No there isn't. Link me to one person being in agreement. So far, I am in a disagreement. AtlasBSrhugging is in a disagreement. AlreadyRedSchool is in a disagreement.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:39 PM
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How many men have been killed by their wife or girlfriend this year? That male on female violence is more potentially fatal means nothing if women are more likely to be abusers. Because violence by men against men or women is much more common than violence by women against men or women. Because violence by blacks against blacks or whites is much more common than violence by whites against blacks or whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:33 PM
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irony Hypocrisy. Irony requires a degree of intelligent and self-aware thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:23 PM
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and I know full well what irony is, obviously better than you do :) Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:21 PM
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Take definition of Fascism from Wikipedia. Take partial definition of Fascism from Wikipedia, without understanding it's a political philosophy which is founded on more than "male worship of masculine power" whatever that means. Compare to RP. Compare it to RP, a highly individualist philosophy, and somehow claim that Fascism is anti-Collectivism because it's anti-Communism and Communism is a form of Collectivism DESPITE fascism being a poster boy of tribalism and nationalism. Ask if any RP guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:19 PM
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You know, I'd even agree somewhat with this line of reasoning 1- Fascist comes from fasces, alternative spelling is faggot 2 - RP are bunch of homos 3 - Therefore all RPers are fascists. It's more in tune than your average "herpaderp, I hate X and I hate RP therefore RP is X".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:16 PM
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Calm your titties, it's a reference to an example of your kin. Link. studying and understanding literary techniques is laughing at the irony Well, you should study it some more because then you'd know what irony means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:14 PM
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I'm going to C/P a comment I made to the OP: Sigh. OP claimed that the reason fascism is abhorred is because it did heinous things. The issue with Fascism, and the reason it has become a pejorative, is that they did such heinous things when they eventually came to power, as history has demonstrated. Communism did much more heinous things, yet it is not as vilified as fascism. Therefore, "did heinous things" is not the only requirement for vilification. Nazis were fascist. Is that what they teach…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:12 PM
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as a lit major Ah yes, found the reason of such inability to debate and default mode of "are you seriously asking me to explain my reasoning you FUCKING WHITE MALE" mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:34 PM
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Yes, actually. I also see a lot more of people being called fascists compared to those actually being fascists. Hell, just look at this thread and the previous one, where you break heaven and earth just to prove TRP=fascism. Look at how Trump's been received by Establishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:32 PM
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So in an argument where you literally try to prove that TRP is similar to fascism, you give out opposition to communism as "trending towards" fascism as a proof of it "trending towards" fascism and now you do, what exactly? Back out? The fact that A opposes X, and B opposes X, doesn't mean that A is B, or even that A is a lot like B.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:28 PM
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Sigh. You claimed that the reason fascism is abhorred is because it did heinous things. The issue with Fascism, and the reason it has become a pejorative, is that they did such heinous things when they eventually came to power, as history has demonstrated. Communism did much more heinous things, yet it is not as vilified as fascism. Therefore, "did heinous things" is not the only requirement for vilification.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:25 PM
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So yes, every "group" in the world is now Collectivist, according to your ridiculously broad definition. First off, it's not my definition. It's wikipedia definition. Collectivism is a moral stance that EMPHASIZES group over individual. For a group to be collectivist, it must first be a group, and then believe that group is more important than individual. I mean, just scroll over to wikipedia and you will see fascism as one of many forms of collectivism. pre-emptively militaristic and started wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:23 PM
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Any group that is violently opposed to communism or socialism as those terms are commonly defined is trending towards Fascism. This is what you said in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:49 PM
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A: Fascism opposes communism, and therefore opposition to communism is fascism - TRP opposes communism,and it is fascism. B: So every opposition of communism is inherently fascist? A: Oh no, it's a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:40 PM
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So any group is guilty of Collectivism? Way to dumb down a definition to something completely meaningless. ... Reading comprehension is a bitch in TBP world? Collectivism emphasizes GROUP over INDIVIDUAL. Fascism emphasizes GROUP over INDIVIDUAL. Fascism is collectivism. A group doesn't have too be inherently collectivistic. But a group of people WHOSE CENTRAL OUTLOOK IS THAT GROUP IS MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORLD is. Which is what fascism is. You're making my point for me. Thank you. No I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:31 PM
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So you have no argument other than "do you really want me to explain my reasoning". Compare Pol Pot and Mussolini. Who was worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:22 PM
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Invading other countries So no group ever invaded other countries. Commies never did that? Capitalists never did that. Holocaust Nazis. too many war crimes to mention Mention them and compare them to commies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:21 PM
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There are a lot of Fascist themes that I will not be touching on in this particular post that were brought up in previous ones; namely the pagan worship of power and the hatred of weakness. And yes, that "definition" was mostly made up bullshit of TBP who wants to link TRP with fascism any way the see it fit. Kinda like "I hate TRP, I hate Hitler, therefore Hitler=TRP". It is key to note here that Fascism is NOT collectivism This is probably the biggest bullshit I've heard in a while. Holy fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:58 PM
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If you are trying to make the point that Fascists were the good guys in WW2 He's not. He's asking for historical examples of heinous things of fascist. Please develop reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:30 PM
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What exactly fascist of Italy, Spain, and Romania did? Especially compared to their communist and "liberal" counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:29 PM
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And I apparently hate women. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 07:56 PM
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I wish this was more commonly espoused here on TRP. Like I said in an earlier post, unicorn syndrome is very prevalent here for some reason. If only there was some sort of a quick phrase that succinctly conveys the notion that within all women there is a prime blueprint that they follow unconsciously. A sort of phrase that can be easily abbreviated and followed like a "all guns are loaded" heuristic. Some sort of All Women Are Like That or AWALT.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/16 09:46 PM
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So basically the first one - "spectrum"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:13 PM
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Explain why my way of categorizing group traits is wrong? Before I do so, I must first understand your argument (and if we agree I might not even do so). Uh, let me see if I have it correctly now : 1)You two circles, masculine populated mostly by men and feminine populated mostly by women. These two circles are overlapping like a Venn diagram, and overlap is significant. Majority of people find themselves in that overlap - despite the fact that majority of masculine/feminine are men/women. Essen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:47 PM
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Well, this is just going to be a discourse on what stereotype is most accurate. I'm afraid that we have a difference of fundamental values here and there is little that we can discuss productively. I am of inclination that "gender neutrality" fails, especially in sexual and romantic context, and that gender specific areas are necessary for any coherent workable system. Man/Woman stereotypes are more accurate and productive than "gender neutral". Hell, Scandies showed that when there's a safety n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 07:55 PM
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No, every poll has said the opposite. ... From my survey I gave awhile back, most BPillers and RPillers said it was a mix, but BP slightly prioritized socialization and RP slightly prioritizes biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 06:10 PM
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Still. After this, I have zero understanding of your post. I have vague thoughts about it, and it looks to me as a rebuttal of your first, grounded in logic, part. Kinda like how a creationist would say "yeah fossils are real and evolution makes more sense, but still...". Correct me if I'm wrong. Unless you're saying that describing a group with a stereotype is correct but proscribing a behaviour on a particular individual due to his membership to a group is wrong then I have to agree. Evopsych,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 06:08 PM
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And I'm going to want to fact check that Scandinavian thing. https://vimeo.com/19707588 If you don't want to watch it, here's a summary: It sounds cliche, but this is a documentary which made the Norwegians pull the plug on Gender Studies. It's called Brainwash, and it deals with a comedian going over to social scientists, asking them questions about X, then going over to evolutionary scientists and biologists, asking them about X and showing them what socscientists said, and going back to socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:37 PM
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After writing this out, I understand how autistic it sounds. I really do. I still can't help myself. There was once a bunch of people who got together and tried to develop a realpolitik style sexual strategy uninhibited by mainstream thoughts and dogmas (muhsoggyknee for one). They called this realpolitik style sexual strategy "red pill". They called things opposed to this newly created sexual strategy blue pill. For example, red pill states that one should be very cognizant of potential romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:31 PM
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I once got attacked for saying that nationalism was originally a left-wing construct, a sort of ur-leftism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:09 PM
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It always boggles my mind about SA. He's so insightful and has the unique talent of combining both this tremendous insight and ability to articulate it. Plus, his mind operates on extreme pattern recognition of something that's so borderline autistic. He is dedicated to truth, yet at the same time he is so indoctrinated in the dishonest,evil nonsense of all variants of progressivism (feminism,anti-racism,multiculturalism,etc) that when he starts to question them and uncover them at their core - …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 09:05 PM
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I actually agree with everything you said. Of course, with a caveat that such behaviour erodes civilization till it's no more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 06:29 PM
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"Well kids, if I were you, I'd go to college in X town rather than Y. I went to Y and was thoroughly disappointed and I heard my peers from X be that X is very very good." "OMG, HOW DARE YOU GIVE US ADVICE TO DO SOMETHING YOU YOURSELF HAVEN'T DONE. ARE WE SUPPOSED TO LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES OMG SO HYPOCRITE"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 06:24 PM
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Women have to stop their biological inclinations. Ah yes, I see that the nefarious spells of Hitler's top wizards rendering women totally unable to do their own thing without consent of random internet wackos is still strong. Sieg Heil! Sex is a natural urge, just like hunger. Hunger can be satisfied properly, or it can be indulged in gluttony. So can sex be satisfied properly, or it can be indulged in lust. Gluttony produces obese and disgusting people, lust produces evil and vapid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 12:06 AM
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How about you stop eating for a week or two? Biological inclinations aren't that easy to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:41 PM
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Well, I have this but I didn't read it so I don't "endorse" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 09:03 PM
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What are you not blue about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 12:12 AM
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Certainly it is. But one shouldn't kick out a person from college that he paid for based on he-said-she-said situation. If a man is not judged as a rapist, it's unjust to consider him one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:25 PM
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Civil court doesn't help rape survivors who have to live with their rapists. Rapists are jailed last time I checked, and very rarely does the victim of a rape have to live in the same prison as the rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 10:02 PM
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In that case I agree with that statement. Power imba makes sexual relationship no-no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 09:58 PM
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I see. My country's college works a bit differently. Undergrad and post-grad are merged together so this confused me slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 09:01 PM
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For example, if it was a grad student with a undergrad student in his class. ... Why is this an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 08:12 PM
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First time you've mentioned a strawman, which is actually a (potentially) legitimate critique. YES. He is strawmaning Evo Psych. EP does not say "there are no acquired traits during the last 10000 years whatsoever". EP says "civilization accelerated human evolution".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 12:42 AM
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Sigh. The analogy is not due to sciences, but due to modern vs. classic approach. He is using what modern evo psych is saying against his strawman of evopsych.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 10:50 PM
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Sigh. Pay special mind to the bolded part. Imagine if there was someone who wanted to prove that ALL PHYSICS is false attacking classical physics using arguments from modern physics. He's not attacking physics, but classical physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 08:01 PM
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This is presented in a nice and neutral way. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:54 PM
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Researchers need to develop the discipline to keep that kind of thing out of their published papers, and the population needs the skills to distill and crystallize those papers ourselves. Otherwise, policy aspirations pervert the science and disdain for (or naive acceptance of) that kind of science perverts policy. A science which was perverted is no longer a science. Disdain for that kind of science is desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:53 PM
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We have a game between two actors. Both actors have an incentive to win. Both actors are self-serving. Both actors have every reason to bluff and deceive each other. Game is structured like this. The biggest victory for Man is for Woman to have sex with him and raise children on her own. However, the biggest victory for him is also the biggest loss for her. So before letting him between her legs, she must be sure that a man will not pump-n-dump. She can't ask him, because he as incentive to bluf…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/16 04:48 PM
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Not if you make it so that beta providers are more evolutionary fit than their alpha counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:28 PM
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If they're not practicing methods of empirical inquiry, then by definition they are not a scientist, no matter what the degree on their wall says. :3 I like this argument. Leftist bias in psychology renders it unable to form any coherent system which corresponds to reality. You might argue that it stops being a science then. You would be right. I imagine a depraved murderer killing a person and wearing their face - it's not the murdered person that wears his face. Still, there's a problem when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:27 PM
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Imagine if there was someone who wanted to prove that physics is false attacking classical physics using arguments from modern physics. He's not attacking physics, but classical physics. Therefore, he has nothing to attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:21 PM
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In my experience, only ultra-conservatives suggest that our species controls nature That's a problem. psychologist who attempts to function as an engineer is not a leftist. ... This ignores leftism for the past 200 years. Plus, watch Hjernevask.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:19 PM
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It turns sex, which is almost a sacred, beautiful act, into a commodity. You're 60s conservative with a dash of female drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:09 PM
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If you need unconditional access to someone's shithole in order to feel loved, odds are you're one yourself. That's not what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:04 PM
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Just look at any of the redpill threads where they claim a woman who had anal in the past but won't now, doesn't really love you. That's not what they claim. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:02 PM
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I'm European from ex-communist country whose ruling party is headed by a member of communist secret police. Those "sciences" are leftist. Just watch Hjernevask.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:53 PM
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So we have no reason to believe that evolutionary forces stopped working once we started civilizations, and there's no reason to think that 400 generations isn't enough time to see significant changes. ... That's the basis of evo-psych and human biodiversity ala Cochrane/Harpending. Considering the guy is philosophy professor, and the fact that he so severely misunderstands the position he argues against, you can reject everything he complains about. Suppose a creationist barged in, said : Those…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:29 PM
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mainstream sociology, whatever its shortcomings may be, isn't leftist. Yes it is. So is psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:19 PM
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Why is that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:48 PM
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Oh Holy Hitler.... TRP is about the open worship of power and strength YES. Power and strength is good. which makes it very much in line with fascist theory NO. Fascist theory has its goals and means, but ultimately all ideologies view power as a good thing AND A THING TO BE PURSUED. It's not fascist-only. In Marxist sociopolitical thought, the dictatorship of the proletariat refers to a state in which the proletariat, or the working class, has control of political power. TRP worships "Chad", ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:48 PM
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Imagine if I told them that there exists another creepy right wing movement who looks at fascism and balks at their excessive modernism and tolerance, and that it has a much more significant overlap with TRP. It bothers me when someone accuses me of being fascists much like it would bother Stalin if someone called him mild socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:33 PM
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No. Race persists even when you control for SE conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:53 PM
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Why are people so afraid of white people becoming a minority? It's not like minorities have ever been treated badly! It's just that countries which have "minorities" such as Muslims and Africans as majorities have no rights of minorities, and are generally shitholes to live in. LOL I'm as white as they come and I still don't understand this ridiculous (and arguably racist) fear of white people no longer being in the majority in the US. Google Mugabe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:40 PM
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That guy was an ass (lol @ hating on asian and indian cultures), but all those people you mentioned pale in comparison to European contribution to both culture and sciences. Hell, to be perfectly honest, it's not all European, just the Hajnal line ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:37 PM
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just because Erin Pizzey encountered militant feminism NO. top leading women of UK's Labour party and THE OLDEST AND LARGEST WOMEN'S CHARITY ORGANIZATION IN SCOTLAND ... Erin Pizzey encountered militant feminism, that suddenly means she's no longer a feminist. "Describing the harassment, Deborah Ross of The Independent wrote that "the feminist sisterhood went bonkers"" she's lobbying for feminist issues, yeah You can lobby for women's welfare without being a feminist, much like you can lobby for…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:27 PM
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Roosh did nothing that bordered on bomb threats or harassing women's shelters. He didn't even seriously advocate rape. feminism is illegitimate because militant groups exist has proven by default that they have done exactly zero good-faith research. Nope. See, top leading women of UK's Labour party and THE OLDEST AND LARGEST WOMEN'S CHARITY ORGANIZATION IN SCOTLAND both engaged in harassment of Erin Pizzey. Not your average "militant tumblerinas xD". If you've bothered not to circlejerk with "om…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 05:00 PM
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So let me get this straight, a guy opens up with a group of statistics, you counter with a group of statistics, then he counters harder with a group of statistics - and suddenly statistics are fluid-you-can-prove-anything-lies? Correct usage of sampling, logical inference, and correct processing results is not something that you can do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 03:22 PM
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Feminism explicitly lobbies for the improved awareness of male domestic violence victims, because they are staunchly against toxic masculinity. Or are we using the crazy red-haired street feminist chick as our basis for what "feminism" is, again? Oh god. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey She became internationally famous for having started the first domestic violence shelter in the modern world. Haven House[2] is often cited as the first women's refuge (called women's shelters in Canada …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 03:14 PM
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No, they can't
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 07:07 AM
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Why is that more serious than sexual assault? The woman harassed a guy, conspired to defame him as a pedophile, succeeded, had him barred from touching a computer, put him through a court because he harassed her, ruined his life, and condemned him to court battles on the basis that normal men are rapists. This argument is absurd. "X case that I picked out of thin air seems outrageous to me, even though I haven't explained why, Seriously? Guys getting fired over a private dongle joke I get. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:53 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/4266i0/toronto_man_found_not_guilty_in_twitter/cz7yekb This is more serious than sexual assault. And I was not arguing seriousness, but using those two things to show that women have power, and that protecting their social standing is something they can manage. I mean, imagine if I told you that slaveowners who beat their slaves suffer a slight on their social standing as they are perceived as sadists and thus beating slaves is pretty rare - would you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:33 AM
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If she faced no repercussions, why is she considering "fading" the name Stoya? ... You yourself said it: although she probably knew she was near the end anyway, based on her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:08 AM
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Jackie wasn't universally villified and neither was Emma Sulkcowicz. All mainstream media is feminist, and there are no faux outrages in media about them - they are given platform, and when it turns out that they're both lying whores, they are simply hushed away. All "hate" comes from hushed tones in private settings between small group of people, and not in public and especially not in public, lest something like Donglegate happen. Or even something like this. The fact that a woman can get a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:07 AM
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There really is none. Abstract social standing is questionable - as there is no mechanism for shaming that kind of people since most of mainstream media is feminist. What happened to Emma Sulkowitz or Jackie the UVA rapee? Were they lauded in the media, or vilified? Plus, when you subtract damage to man's life (the goal of false rape accusation) and punishment (which barely includes social standing in victimhood culture and feminist media), the net result is usually positive. It doesn't help tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:46 PM
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It's going to become harder and harder to claim that women somehow have an incentive to come forward with false allegations, as if it helps them. You misunderstand. We don't say that there's a guy giving women 100 bucks if they do a false rape accusation. We don't care about direct incentives like that, or even acknowledge they exist. We're not saying that she will magically become nation's pet - despite the liberal indoctrination, most people will instinctively "avoid" them. What is more plausi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:38 PM
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Earth. It's very different that liberal's la-la land. woman's reputation is destroyed by trying to report a rape Is laughable, especially when victimhood is our generation's "it" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:03 PM
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Because women calling police to defend them against rapists results in women being prosecuted much like men calling police to defend them against abuse results in men being prosecuted. Oh no wait, women calling men rapists regardless of what happens can only damage men with no harm to women. These things are not the same. Turning it into a dick-measuring contest is exactly why there are gender conflicts in the first place...ironically. No, there are gender conflicts because feminism exists. Any …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:52 PM
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Nope. The most common insults flinged against us, and men in general, by your kind are virgin, neckbeard, creepy, loser, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:48 PM
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Red Pill boys are digging their own graves. Men have to be stoic and hold frame Holding frame =/= taking abuse but then complain that men don't report violence enough because useless parasitical classes as feminists and other SJWs are actively shaming them and treating them as a prior evil aggressors Fixed for you. FYI, those two are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:35 PM
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linked to SSC Good. SSC deserves more views and money, far more than those unspecified members of unspecified tribe at Cracked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:26 PM
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Gee that emotional abuse. :3 Its not a good enough sample to say women are more abusive in general. Sample is fine. I though all women lied on surveys according to red pill? Nope. It says that women have incentive to lie to make themselves appear better. Lying to make yourself appear worse is not what RP says. Not to mention: That paragraph is just hamstering without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:22 PM
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Oh. My mistake then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:02 PM
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lol You commented this 38minutes ago when /u/NalkaNalka and /u/RareBlur posted statistics, theory and confirmation of it in lieu of pyschological research 1 hour ago. So that means that you either did not see responses (unlikely), or that you ignored them. Considering that you're a blue pilled woman, I think it's the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:01 PM
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Most gay men (90.7%) reported having only male perpetrators of intimate partner violence. [...] ... how is this not 100%? I feel like I am missing something hard. Will reedit if I realize my stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:53 PM
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neorxn.com
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:14 PM
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A misunderstanding. There's really no AA in the Slavlands, but gender which gets "shafted" are supposedly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:38 PM
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How quaint :3 There's a DarkEnlightenment sub, so swing by when you want to. As with any fascist neckbeard wanna-be Hitlers, mods can be overzealous dicks so try not to be asshole or a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:37 PM
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Well, I do something STEM - pharmacy and medical biochemistry. It's female dominated - a lot of professors are women (vast majority), and students too. Can you guess which gender gets "shafted"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:30 PM
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Cathedral, which promotes liberal progressive values. This is a peculiar phrasing, especially Cathedral. Where did you get it from?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:20 PM
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The difference is that in false rape accusations, someone is actively acting on the accused which is not the default setting. In child support, the woman is privileged to get paid which is not default setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:04 PM
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That's a valid criticism, but I'm not straying into realm of making someone "guilty" - a process by which a person's rights are infringed (differ this from "privileges not given"). Not giving person A money of person B because persons A and B did not have explicit agreement with exchange of goods/gifts in mind is not making person A guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:56 PM
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I don't deny that these women exist. They're the scum of the earth imo. Using a child for your own advantage is very low. Good. We agree on this, and it's important to remember that we agree on this. To further clarify and prevent many confusions, we agree on two things : 1)these women exist and 2)they're absolute scum(I called them "evil", but your label works for me too). But I do question the use of these kind of women in general child support discussions, since they are outliers and thus not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:48 PM
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Oh man, wait till you get to the gender part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:35 PM
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In the past, you stayed with a partner who was abusive. Yes. And you yourself said : "we advanced". And yes, we have improved since the early twentieth century, when it comes to mental health. No more lobotomy solutions for same sex thoughts. Yes. That doesn't excuse a world where you can hospitalize someone for psychotic paranoid schizophrenia, and they won't even necessarily stabilize them before re-releasing them, because insurance decides the length of the stay. It doesn't, but that is beyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:33 PM
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No, not really. I have a pet theory which is totally not based on any statistic or actual research but I consider it a fun though experiment. It's that women feel shallower and more often, while men feel deeper while more seldom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:05 PM
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No [to "The reason we have the explosion of single mothers over the past few decades is because we created financial incentives for women to choose this path."] I'm not saying that what you said (less stigmatization of casual sex and divorce) isn't true, but I'm going to ask you to consider a following train of thoughts while keeping an open mind : There are bad and good people (rough approximation, nothing absolute) and they are found in all groups of people - black, white, male, female, atheis…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:03 PM
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Let me get this straight, in past we had much more brutal criminal justice system (more racism, more corporal punishment), more power in the hands of men (what you mean when you say abusive partners), and mental health networks were fucking brutal. But somehow, lessening those three (and they are lessened harshly) somehow resulted in rise of single mothers while somehow all three show positive correlation with single motherhood? The guy above you ( /u/DevilDwarv ) has it right : the reason is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 03:52 PM
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I like you for being so offensive and to the point. Are you familiar with Jim?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 03:48 PM
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Has any 6 year old tried explaining to them that life isn't fair? And this justifies making unfair laws that are found nowhere in history but the last 20 years or so how? I mean "it's unfair that women have to carry parasites in their wombs but then again they can abort it whenever want but it's unfair lol xD here some baby trap child support rape. Imagine if we said "yeah, it's unfair that a woman can get sex whenever she wants it so yeah, we gonna force women to have sex with low value males j…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 03:47 PM
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Well, pretty much this is what I was getting at. No one hates on single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 12:39 AM
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In what obscene world is defending yourself with lethal force against assault edgy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 07:33 PM
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Feminism is the best way to kill a population for good. Take from that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 06:50 PM
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All three of which have substantial proportion of certain people of unspecified religion and color of skin overrepresented in matters of welfare usage and criminal activities. And these certain people of unspecified religion and color of skin are actually much higher in number in USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 06:37 PM
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Criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 11:09 AM
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Snark changes nothing. You get more of whatever you subsidize - reinforcing those people through parasitic welfare states gets you more of those people. But hey, words are shallow. Look at Sweden, Germany, UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:22 PM
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Bullets are cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:34 PM
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I'm going to be very detailed here, because you're either dense on purpose to troll (badly) or really stupid - no offense meant. Thinking that your SO had been abducted and replaced by a clone isn't giving a productive answer. Do you even metaphor? I don't think she was mind controlled, but in a way - the person I would be with in that scenario is "gone", as in there was such a dramatic shift in her personality that makes her effectively gone. This explanation sets frame to my continued explanat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 12:18 AM
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This is untrue. I said that my experience doesn't match the question, but IF it did, this is a hypothetical scenario (in this situation) I said directly, that I would not believe it - believe that my SO was raped and wasn't cheating on me. 1) Why are you nitpicking my response when my response is direct affirmation of the post I replied to? 2)What value are you adding to conversation? 3)I said that I would not believe my SO in the scenario OP said. Not the OP's scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:44 PM
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No it's not. Can you read what I wrote? If the situation in OP happened, I would believe that the person I'm in a relationship with is gone (reasons not important) and someone else is in her shoes. And I would not believe it. THIS IS AN ANSWER.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:17 PM
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If your experience is so far outside of the spirit of the question, what are you adding to the discussion? Did you miss the second part where I said : If the situation in OP happened, I would believe that the person I'm in a relationship with is gone (reasons not important) and someone else is in her shoes. And I would not believe it. The bolded part being a direct answer to the original question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:59 PM
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This is pretty much my response to a T. If the situation in OP happened, I would believe that the person I'm in a relationship with is gone (reasons not important) and someone else is in her shoes. And I would not believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:05 PM
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Well, I still don't think TRP is placebo or a noble lie, but to answer the OQ - yeah, TRP doesn't believe in true things because they are true. They are only guided by desire to maximize their penis-in-vagina and minimize the responsibilities that come in - the anti-feminism, the occasional trash talk is just loaded locker talk with a shit eating grin. TRP is a heuristic, a way of solving a problem. Treat all guns as loaded. Not every tiger ate a person, but tigers are still dangerous predators.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:54 PM
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TRP advice - dread game, spinning plates, keeping frame, etc is being actively looked down upon, shamed, and in general has an air of hostility of people against it. When I say "stacked cards" I mean mainstream consensus - the same one that bans Roosh from entering Australia or UK despite their rape jihad going on (especially UK).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:02 PM
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Well, I cannot think of something false that still works optimally, unless bolstered by sheer weight of people believing it. Noble lies must be believed by majority to work, so if we have a disagreement here, we cannot come to an understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:00 PM
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You know the type of people who watch zombie shows, fantasize about arsenals and perfect zombie defense bases, play stupid buggy games with zombies and "survival", have daydreams about what to do about in a zombie apocalypse? That's pretty much you. But instead of zombies, it's red pill putsch, when thousands of redpillers have a metaphorical March on Rome and institute a regime so fascist it makes Mussolini blush and giggle like a 16 year old girl. I'm talking about chaining women pregnant and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:31 PM
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Also, we as a society cannot afford to let children grow up without resources and support. It makes the most sense that the man who contributed half of the DNA should contribute to the survival of his offspring. Yes we can do that. You cry about how nature isn't fair while simultaneously promoting "unfair" and artificial oppression of men to mend that unfairness. This isn't biological unfairness, it's a legal one. There's no biological imperative towards child support/welfare state - in fact, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:20 PM
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Unfair laws are never good for the society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:14 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:01 PM
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A sort of "noble lie". For something to be false and still work (like a noble lie), it must have the full weight of a mass population believing it and altering their behavior to suit it. A majority of us has to believe it. If TRP was a noble lie, it would have to be accepted by the mainstream and believed to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. But TRP is far from the mainstream. TRP makes statements about women, and operates based on these statements on "unsuspecting" women and finds a great deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:00 PM
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if they were false but still "worked", would they get rid of them or not. How is possible for something false to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:51 PM
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This reminds me of this : http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/02/17/lies-damned-lies-and-social-media-part-5-of-%E2%88%9E/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 03:19 PM
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Well there's plenty of places that have never felt the horrid taint of Feminism and they are complete fucking shitholes. The implication of this is that feminism somehow makes Feminist countries not-shitholes is stupid. The same thing that makes countries not shitholes is also something that can make feminism possible. If you're violent, suboptimal time preference, low-cooperation type of people/culture - then you will naturally be a shithole. There is no evidence that feminism makes people less…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:35 PM
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It's just kinda odd to throw that in, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 01:05 PM
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Feminism is about rights and benefits to women - and this is primary. All other principles - justice,equality,blabla are secondary and to be dismissed whenever they do not serve (or even damage) the primary cause. To say that first wave feminism was about equal rights would be mildly incorrect - but not entirely correct. It was about "equal rights" since equal rights are a subset of "benefits of women". But feminism, as a whole movement, is primarily for benefits of women, not "equality".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:49 AM
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Still, no one ever bothered to argue against it, just have faux outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:41 AM
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no longer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 12:39 AM
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Right to pursue a career and right to a career are two very different things. Furthermore, just because people around you disapprove of your choices, it doesn't mean that you do not have them. Keep this in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 05:51 PM
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In what way and what careers? Be very specific and illustrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 05:43 PM
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If you were barred from things you have a right to Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 05:41 PM
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This is unrelated, but your flair is purple "Chad's Dad" and lower it's blue "Misogyny is Beta". How's that possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:24 PM
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A person who pitches their dinner into the trash doesn't "lose" anything That is weird, because the other guy said : She didn't lose anything, she threw something away. Big difference, IMO. Huh. A callous language but nothing that I, as a mod, would remove.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:21 PM
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How about you C/P that deleted comment so if we can judge if it was a legit ban. Since I'm hardcore right winger, I always give the authority the benefit of doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:07 PM
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"I would never date a rape victim, she just has too much mental baggage and is damaged goods" "ZOMG YOU SHITLORD. You can't call a woman damaged goods for going through something traumatizing, you hate all women and you have nothing but contempt for them you muh soggy kneeist pig" "Would you date a man who is falsely accused of rape but you knew it to be false?" "Hell naw, he is not boyfriend material and from this ordeal he hates women - plus, I don't want to deal with that mental bullshit his …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 08:24 PM
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Except it does in refer to the man in your story instance. I never understood it to refer to the hypothetical man. Objectifying a woman and basing her value on her usefulness and mental health is screwed up One always considers the virtues and flaws of a person when entering a relationship with her. You directly interacted with me by making that a question and thereby got my opinion on the matter, because you asked. No take backsies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question It's my birt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:26 PM
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different people are different and want different things. I'm just gonna copy paste what exit_sandman wrote. The list of people redpillers suggest not to date is long. Single moms are among them. Women with lots of debt and a spending habit. Sluts, reformed or not. Habitual drug users. Women with trauma or psychological disorders. And so on. And for every single one on that list there are compelling reasons why they shouldn't be dated; even though bluepillers are eager to deny them and to engage…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:50 PM
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That the you see is directly stating that it is the redpill man from your story. NO! That's not how definite article works. The might refer to the man in the story, but it can also refer to the abstract typical RP man. Aren't you smart? You figured out I was voicing my opinion on this very specific branch of the original topic there. Good job, buddy! What you quoted from me with that response has no relation to each other. No one asked you for your opinion, I never said I cared about your opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:43 PM
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There is no difference whatsoever between "I Don't Want To Date Rape Survivors" and "It Is A Bad Idea To Date Rape Survivors" You're a rational, self-serving actor. If you do not want to date someone who is X, it implicitly sends a message that there is a quality of X that is potentially a deal breaker. Plus, if you articulate why you don't want to date someone who is X, you are implicitly arguing against dating someone who is X - and in that giving advice against dating X.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:21 PM
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In the scenario you devised and even then, that was not what they said. They were talking about your hypothetical evil man, not RP as a whole. You assumed that is what they meant. /// The RP man won't go out of his way to help a rape victim because he sees her, others like her and women as objects. Less than human. He performed no introspection to come to his decision. His decision came from a place of hate. Of Contempt. I never said that the man was RP. He never said "the man in your story". He…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:16 PM
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Wat? You brought up hate. The person to whom you are replying was replying in a hypothetical manner to you. The person I responded to called all RPers as irrational evil woman haters. For not wanting to date a rape victim. For not wanting to invest in a woman who owes you nothing. You imply that you would do it for men No I do not. I am implying that the person who I responded to implies that if I do anything that doesn't help women, I am coming from a place of hatred. This is excluding a group …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:34 PM
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Yep. I'm also racist, if that helps. EDIT : Forgot the Jews. You can't forget the Jews. And the Dutch too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:25 PM
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I actually agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 08:31 PM
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Not all tigers have eaten people but it doesn't stop them being a dangerous predator, so would you let a tiger sleep on the foot of your bed? I like this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:46 PM
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Then try to change his view. This is a debate sub, you're supposed to debate here. You cannot say "you don't want to change your view" to a person who comes to a debate sub with CMV tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:46 PM
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They both have the same actions but it's their inherent sets of differing principles that make them say the things they did the way they did. Which is precisely what I'm saying. In order to argue with you people, I need to merit the principle I'm coming from, the argument itself, and how it's presented. To me, the truthfulness of something comes from truthfulness of it, not from the principle it is born from or how it comes packed out. The rest of your post is blatant attack of RP as coming from…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:43 PM
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I understand the point of your thread, you operate by default on logic mode. You saw the syntax : "Refusing to date rape victims is asshole behaviour" and immediately started drawing the general principle behind it. If refusing to date rape victims is asshole behaviour, then refusing to date anyone who has psychological issues is also asshole behaviour - otherwise, it doesn't make sense as it has no consistency. One subset of people with psychological issues is also pedophiles. Therefore, refusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:35 PM
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TRP is still for you. what do I need to keep in mind? Nothing more than an average white male Western TRPer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:09 PM
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Look, if TRP can teach you only one thing, it would be nullius in verba. The other thing would be - it doesn't matter WHAT you do, but WHY and HOW IT LOOKS. This is especially true for women and women-like creatures (BP males). You can see that in sexual objectification versus sexual empowerment - both are the same thing, but differ in intent. Now, suppose that there are two men - both refuse to date rape victims. First one says - "women who get raped are damaged goods, and a huge load of mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:04 PM
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Bingo. A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her.The senior monk carried this woman on his shoulder, forded the river and let her down on the other bank. The junior monk was very upset, but said nothing.They both were walking and senior monk noticed that his junior …
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 03:05 PM
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depression Lifting might seem as a typical dude-bro advice by typical dude-bro people, but it has certain psychological and therapeutic effects. Don't do anti-depressives if you can help it, and psychology is basically shame-you-males area. There was a story about a guy whose GF got raped, had trauma, went 1 year without sex with him, and then cheated on him with her coworker - therapist said "she's liberating herself". It's in askTRP sub, one of top there. Well my plate got upset with how littl…
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 02:45 PM
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I dont want to be rude, but are you sure you understand RP? Im sleepy as fuck so expect a longer and detailed response tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 12:15 AM
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What do you mean by TRP society?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 12:07 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
/r/TheRedPill16/01/16 09:58 PM
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I've heard this argument many times. If a 250lb bloke decides to beat the shit out of his 125lb girlfriend, it is extremely dangerous and frightening for her. You will never understand what this is like. Men never have to face this. And you have no counter-argument for it except "it's scary for her". Now imagine being beaten by a baseball bat without the option to defend yourself - and if you do, off to jail you go. To be forced to weather battery and not being able to defend yourself for fear o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 10:28 PM
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You are using evo psych (har har har!) to explain why men are more violent. That is true. *Let's conveniently not touch on how blacks are represented there - using the same logic and sources to cast a shadow on peaceful negro bad whitey theory is rayciss when you can't But then you conflate domestic violence with non domestic violence. And 1 in 4 versus 1 in 7 isn't that much - when you consider more men are murdered than women. But let's not talk about that. Let's do something more interesting.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 10:21 PM
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Agreed. But only if TBPers tag themselves with a neat little yellow star.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 08:12 PM
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If I were someone who I am not, I do not know how I would be. The mindset would be alien to me. But even in Sweden, I would still rather be a man (considering I'm ultra right wing shitlord). Why? Go to the subreddit called nosleep and search for a story called "Tampon Recall".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 10:11 PM
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I'm biting. Let's assume that women and men are somehow deserving of equal rights (don't tell my boys at the The Red Klan) and unjust (denying them equal rights) things happen to them both. So if A happens to women, and B happens to men, we shall judge not on who events happen, but rather the intensity and amount of suffering A and B create to women and men respectively. If I were to do otherwise, to consider a small slight on men more important than a huge issue of women, that would not be equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 09:40 PM
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You're probably getting downvoted and snarked (in a most despicable and TBP way) because it seems that you said that women in USA can't have office or vote and that USA is obviously a patriarchy from that. It's a misunderstanding based on your somewhat clumsy wording (it happens) and more snarky part of TRP refusing to actually try to understand what you said. Definitions of "patriarchy" are a discussion that are best left to some other chain of comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 09:24 PM
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You forgot the two biggest double standards of them all: 1) Men have penises but want women with vaginas 2) Women have vaginas but want men with penises
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 09:19 PM
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I'm thinking that there is a misunderstanding here. You are defining patriarchy as a regime where women cannot hold power - and in a republic, this would translate as women not being allowed to hold office and vote. Now, I think that you're not saying "in USA, republic like we have, women cannot hold office or vote" but because of "like we have" it seems like you're somehow implying that women in USA cannot hold office or vote. Correct me if I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 09:16 PM
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Civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:03 PM
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So you have nothing but a baseless accusation made by have you feel TRPs are. Show me where he called himself Red Pilled, instead of lamenting how he cried about Chad Thundercock - which is a meme not created by TRP or exclusively used by us. ER even posted on a forum called puahate but I suppose he's TRP because they hate womyn or something xD. captain of his high school debate team At least you're not calling me 13 year old neckbeard virgin, so that's some progress for TBP I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:13 AM
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Barring women from universities is stopping them from succeeding if they had talent and creating a different standard. So? No one actually owns them entry - it is immoral to force someone to associate with someone they don't want to, regardless of the criteria. Equality for equality's sake is kinda empty. Your standard is that a woman has to change the entire society to actually succeed Nope. How can you create a university environment while not being educated yourself and denied the opportuniti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 10:55 PM
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Point me where he said that he was a TRPer and that he used TRP as justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 10:42 PM
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This is still not nearly as extremist as calling for murder of all men, and attempting murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 07:01 PM
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No, I think she's a pretty good example of feminist extremist. So is Valerie Solanas. American radical feminist writer who is best known for writing the SCUM Manifesto and attempting to murder artist Andy Warhol. Point me to a TRPer who uses TRP as justification to say "kill all women" and has attempted murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:13 PM
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The original goal of feminism was for the equality of men and women. No it wasn't. It never pretended to be anything else. It pretended only to be that. getting women the vote and into paid jobs which was a bigger and more pressing issue. According to women, things that disproportionately affect women are more important and pressing. Women voting has bigger advantage over men being shamed into dying. You are bringing up conscription which has been mostly abandoned Doesn't matter that it has been…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:03 PM
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You have no way of quantifying extremist of TRP. And whatever you think TRP extremist are (oh noes, women't can't vote!!!), feminists are more dangerous and insane. Moderate feminists are those featured in Hjernevask. And they are more ignorant of sciences. "Extremist" (actually supported by their campus gender studies) are like Bahari Mustafa who tweet "kill all men". Do you see TRP tweeting "kill all women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 05:57 PM
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Judge both movements by its extremist and you will find feminism far more rich in both intensity and amount of violence and lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:51 AM
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You do not even bother reading what I write? I could say "banana banana terracota pie" a hundred time and the answer would be some cookie cutter feel-good phrase such as this one. In a thread where we argue for and against goal of original feminism being equality you say that we should not take what original feminist did and advocated for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:47 AM
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schools and roads are also "socialist" No. "Socialism" that born schools like this was a result of ideas of French Revolution, and not of Marxist thought. The very same ideas that borne USA. Calling schools "socialist" is stupid semantics - a bait and switch. Prussia wasn't a socialist country in "marxist" way, and neither was Habsburg Monarchy, and both these countries adopted compulsory education before nations that held a vast amount of "early socialist" thinkers such as France (Parisian Comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:17 AM
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Trying to get feminism to improve male's position is like trying to recruit Soviet Union to help you fight communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:05 AM
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You mentioned an anti-feminist. I pointed that out. No I didn't. The other guy's quote was : World War I In August 1914, at the start of the First World War, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald founded the Order of the White Feather with support from the prominent author Mrs Humphrey Ward. The organization aimed to shame men into enlisting in the British Army by persuading women to present them with a white feather if they were not wearing a uniform.[2][3] This was joined by some prominent feminists and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:03 AM
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The lady in question was the president of a major anti-suffrage organisation. She was AGAINST women getting the vote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather#World_War_I **This was joined by some prominent feminists and suffragettes of the time, such as Emmeline Pankhurst and her daughter Christabel. They, in addition to handing out the feathers, also lobbied to institute an involuntary universal draft, which included those who lacked votes due to being too young or not owning property. Mrs.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:37 AM
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I agree with you. From that all men and women are created equal follows that there is no reason to deny women vote. From giving women vote, as per HBD, it naturally follows to maximize female privileges, and minimize female obligations. The more time progresses, the more feminism evolves, the more accurate will this be. I would position it further, that a Victorian mentality makes first wave possible. In a sense, Victorian mentality is proto-feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:34 AM
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Equality Equality of feminism is the bait, and Duluth/VAWA/Rape hystera (when it's straight white male)/women invasion/redistribution of resources to women/etc is the switch. Women like Nicole Arbour say "Ooh I'm not a feminist" yet they are standing on the shoulders of the brave women who made it possible for them to do as they do. No they're not. Feminists are hysterical, hypocritical women. To call such people brave is an insult to anything bravery stands. The "feminism made them possible" is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:31 AM
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So you are basically ignoring the entire argument that with enough zeal (and average crazy woman will have it), she can drag your entire reputation to mud, with little to no repercussions, with a plethora of leftist media sites willing to side with her with "lalala it doesn't happen, it really doesn't". It would run contrary to the sub's policy if I said I wished you got branded as rapists, so I won't say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 10:18 PM
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You are not arguing in good faith, any argument I give you, you will ignore. But okay. Have this : https://vimeo.com/19707588 Fucking strange that not one BPer ever commented on this series, even though I vividly remember posting at least one thread about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 10:13 PM
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Your prediction is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:16 PM
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No. Not ones like this. (1) When something is framed in a negative context, in which you cannot derive any moral superiority, there is a tendency of BP/feminists to disassociate with it - regardless of whether they actually support it. Just one post away : Personally, I don't see it as a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 12:13 AM
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Holy shit, you BPers are delusional to agree with this income nonsense. Can you provide sources for your argument or is it something professor Shekelberg told you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:39 AM
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GG&S is wrong. Will edit this when I have time to show you how. Plus, it's full of bad history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:36 AM
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Don't forget the fact that White Europeans single-handedly constructed the modern society in which we live today. What useful technology have the Africans ever developed? Technological advancement has been driven primarily by White societies following the Dark ages. That is all a coincidence. It's because they had better education. Because institutions which educate are not built of smart people, but of magic space goo, it's totally random. It doesn't take a lot of smart people to start up insti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:20 PM
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Exclude people who do not give a shit for third wave feminism - the ultra traditional countries like Middle East (acid in face, stoning), Africa (lololol), India, China (they call unmarried women over 30 sheng-gnu, or the "left overs"). These countries are TRP in principle, but not in name. The total population of white countries (USA, Europe, Canada) is 1100 million. Half of that (men) are 550 million. I'll average out the percentage of old (65+) and young (less than 14) from wiki and other sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:17 PM
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That difference can largely be explained in the difference in incomes between black and white and, resulting from that, the quality of basic education. The gap persists even when you control for that income. This is some basic fucking shit m8. For example. How can someone in anno domini 2015 spew that discredited bullshit is beyond me. Hurr Durr it's all income xD and education. Seriously, mixing up cause and effect. Do smart people create institutions and result in better education, or do insti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:59 PM
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Just wanted to write this kind of things, but I scrolled down and saw you covered everything. Divorce rape means shit if you won't get a man to marry you. The false rape means shit also if you go against someone who might go Cheng Sheng on your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:40 PM
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By your logic they would be. By logic (and not my logic) they are. White men are smarter than black men. This doesn't mean that all blacks are stupid, or that all whites are smart - there's plenty of retarded whites. But on average, whites are more smart. See the differences in IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:34 PM
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You're including Africa, Middle East, India in there? You understand that these kind of society are the type of traditional societies which unlike mean things online, has slut shaming in flavor of acid in your face? That TRP to them is probably too liberal and feminist? You do understand that "feminist approach" to LTR has only taken hold in white countries and white people - less than 1 billion (probably less than 800 million)? You do understand that more and more men are giving up on any prosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:31 PM
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But really, I could provide goddamn mathematical proof of the fact that men and women hold equal value and you still wouldn't believe it. Because there isn't any. All your kind has is faux-outrage that someone even dares to think, what has been thought for majority of human existence - especially during the zenith of greatest civilizations, that men are sort of better at civilization building than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:10 PM
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Nope. See Brian Banks. Supporting wild belief that all women who say were raped makes you more likely to be put in jail. Regardless of what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 10:43 PM
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This is the only response someone like her needs to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 07:07 PM
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The purpose of all theory is to give you a vast system in which you can put a variable - and then watch the variable transformed to a conclusion/consequence/outcome without reference to the real world. The purpose of the system is to supplant the real world, so you do not need to actually waste time and resources testing with that variable. For example, you do not need to throw a ball of a building to see if it will fall to the ground - you've got a theory of gravity so you know it will fall to …
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 04:30 PM
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HR HR is literally make-believe government ordered function that exists solely to satisfy progressive "requirements". But okay. Your first quote says that many companies are narrowing gender gap. It still exists, so the point is moot - "it's gonna narrow down soon" doesn't mean shit. And what the hell is that about employee productivity? The fact that companies lose more time for medical leave is irrelevant. Medical leave + maternity leave > medical leave. Your second quote is that mothers with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 09:48 PM
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So all women cannot be hired because some women may get pregnant while at your job. A risk I am not willing to take. 17% isn't non-existent A woman's word carries a heavier blow than a man's, regarding sexual harassment. But even if the chance was 1% smaller, which I doubt, then nothing changes - they're still a bigger risk. But society is biased in favor of women, amirite? I like how you ignored the last paragraph and weakly assumed I believe that by default, all women are incompetent. Not to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:09 AM
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You won't hire a woman because men can't work with her and she might have a child. Even if she's competent. Even if she's more competent. Two in harmony surpass one in perfection. Regarding teamwork, I'd hire the person who is most compatible. But the maluses for hiring women are greater than the bonuses. They include : can get pregnant and since motherhood is sacred, you're fucked can sue you for sexual harassment on a whim The former is never argued, and is only passed up in silence with "b..b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 10:49 PM
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wub1234 told you everything and I don't think anything useful can be derived from this discussion - it's like "men have thicker frames". It's true, yes, but what of it? Well I can't study...so I will procrastinate by posting this lingering question. Don't do this. I am most guilty of posting retarded and inflammatory content here to spark a horrible discussion that I have in the back of my mind like "oh I gotta solve this discussion" so I can rationalize non-studying. Just pick up the book. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 08:00 PM
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I'd like to see statistics on that too. Absent mother. All I have are personal experiences which I will not share in detail, but will just say that children without mothers perform equally or better than children of both parents - but this could be a fluke also, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:07 PM
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Trying to call out TRP for those "nasty racist" (because border control over of religionofpeace.jpg is the love child of Hitler and Rhodes) is the same as calling out BP for those nasty feminazis. They're going to say "ooh, we're not like that" but like all the other ideologies, moderates have tacit support for extremists. That being said, you asked for comments. 1)Calling for border control is not heavy racism. 2)Deporting people who are not natives of your country, disproportionally commit vio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 11:52 PM
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manipulating/indoctrinating It's not somehow making them bad, as if the media is some sort of congregation of warlocks. It's enabling them to be the worst version of themselves and get away with it. And it is self-referencing problem. The more you involve women in politics, the more will they push for maximizing their privileges and minimizing their responsibilities - and doing the inverse for men. This culture didn't come out from vacuum, Martians did not enforce it on us. They (women) wanted i…
/r/TheRedPill01/12/15 10:04 PM
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Partially because of what I now know though TRP, partially because... mehhhh... just don't feel like it. Not her, that's for sure. This is you, not yet "taken the pill" but it being in your mind like a catchy song you find yourself humming at strange times. She flagged you down as a provider. You and men in general, do not want to be considered only providers. Thus, there is a certain aversion to LTR with her specifically, an aversion you cannot concretely articulate because you lack the necessa…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 12:23 AM
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That can easily be true too. It's a vicious circle, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:46 PM
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"we'll emasculate you so you don't feel toxic masculinity". ... Domestic violence: Responsible for introducing Duluth model, and attacking Erin Pizzey for opening male shelters. Write few posts about how that's not nice. Totally equal. Pizzey has been the subject of death threats and boycotts because of her research into the claim that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are equally capable of violence as men. Pizzey has said that the threats were from militant feminists. Other …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:44 PM
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Oh dang, overlooked that. Sorry. But being honest, sex is not that big of a deal. Sex is only a proxy for something, and that something is being wanted. A woman who refuses sex with her husband is not attracted to him, despite the shit ton of hamstering she might spew. That is painful to men, much more than not getting his rocks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:32 PM
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Wouldn't you have to admit that 'the vote' is a very different animal to 'being invaded and massacred'? I agree with that. I told you, "don't fight, don't vote" is a stupid argument. If it had been me, I wouldn't have joined the white feather campaign. Pretty decent of you, but also irrelevant. Just looking at it logically. I'm also going to repeat this : They could campaign for right to go to war, because they could campaign for votes. But they didn't. This makes pro-war feminists hypocrites. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:30 PM
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Why, the one with the better personality, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:18 PM
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Look, you can hamster it all you want. Most people were in support of women-not-voting back then, too. Yet that didn't stop them. They could campaign for right to go to war, because they could campaign for votes. Still doesn't change the fact that Still supported by pretty popular and canon feminists. Look, I don't buy the argument "women shouldn't vote cause they can't get drafted". It is among the stupidest argument one can make against women voting. But please don't whitewash history with "bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:17 PM
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Oh my god. Here's a piece of history for you. The one he mentions. So the assertion Feminists were historically anti war and anti draft. Is incorrect. It's a lie. As /u/PetticoatRuled says : No, supported by 'some feminists'. Some feminists were historically antiwar and antidraft.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:05 PM
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Lol, expecting feminism to help with men's issues is like expecting help from Soviet Union to fight communism. All your "feminist resources" are delusions that somehow "help" men along the lines "we'll emasculate you so you don't feel toxic masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 09:01 PM
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Still supported by pretty popular and canon feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 08:58 PM
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Instigated by a man. Supported by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 07:54 PM
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Most of human psychological evolution happened 200 000 to 10 000 BC Oh boy. Start here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:31 AM
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In what goddamn universe is retreat better option than retaliation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 12:27 AM
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What's ED?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:03 PM
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The Swiss Army Knife of Hate. I love it. I finally found my perfect flair .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 10:23 PM
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I hate the term SO or LTR. Significant other to me seems so dehumanizing. Also, LTR? Long term relationship just seems so nasty, you literally reduce a person to their relation to you. I prefer the term girl/boy-friend, because the first (gender) signifies romantic love while the second emphasizes a sense of kinship with the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 08:33 PM
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Because you are attempting to be unselectively rigorous and objective. You won't see that in feminist or women - hell, you won't see it even in leftier men. Today's women/feminists use ideas to their welfare, and not the other way around. Thus, when an idea has "exhausted" itself - when you can no longer derive any benefit from it, but will have to give something up, this idea is simply abandoned or just posted as an empty platitude, a lip service. Biological explanations are a-okay when it's al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:35 PM
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Pandering to men has seen her income rise as her academic relevance falls. Or her academic relevance fell as she is pandering to men. Which says something about academia. Then again, you are accusing CHS of being a "clickbait money pls" when you've got folks like Sarkeesian and student loans from gender studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:58 PM
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1) Ask for an example in mainstream academic feminism that they're horrible. 2) Get one. 3) Respond with "omg how horrible guise xD". 4) Despite being in a position of authority and accepted by mainstream feminism as one of them, she is not representative of movement which made all men default aggressors and has tweeted "Yes All Men" and "Kill All Men" numerous times. 5) Repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 07:56 PM
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Again, victim shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:29 PM
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Don't walk through seedy alleys in ghettos if you don't want to get raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:56 PM
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Of course you do. When it's socially acceptable rapist (straight white men) then we're all feminists. When it's immigrants, then "who has time for that stuff". I mean seriously, the difference between England is USA is like huge. As if you are different species. Also I don't understand the intersection between rape and racism. And this is why you shouldn't be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:55 PM
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Because you hear only those who talk about women. Others don't even say they're MGTOW, but coyly deflect with some socially approved nonsense when asked about their bachelorhood. In an age of private-dongle-jokes-get-you-fired I ain't gonna say MGTOW things out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:40 PM
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Well, you're a feminist right? So you're all into women's rights and welfare and other nonsense? Personally, it's too queer for me but everyone's got their kinks. You'd expect for someone like that to be aware of such major breaches in women's rights and welfare when they're busy with stuff like catcalls and such. Dunno about you, but being raped and then shunned cause I'm apparently racist now (cause I got raped) is kind of several times worse than "nice skirt slut". Isn't that kinda the "poh l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:37 PM
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Swedish girl got raped and principal blamed her and her parent's racism. Link - but you're gonna have to google translate if you don't know Swedish. One instances mean nothing? How about this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism But there's more, and this is just what we're allowed to hear and what you will accept …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:28 PM
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They don't hate marriage, they hate divorce rape. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:20 PM
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And this is why anything you say should not be taken seriously. You fret about some imaginary white patriarchy that ,gasp, catcalls women while the real rape culture you defend cause you don't wanna be called racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:07 PM
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Is that victim blaming I see?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:43 PM
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Nah, I was never used (fortunately) despite the desire being there. But more like that this sentence is a summary of what this woman is like, and what would probably do to our Sith Lord OP.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 07:44 PM
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Reading this I kinda feel for the woman. Then I comprehend this : unless my feet were cold, and once they warmed up I would push the guy away" and have a strange feeling I cannot articulate - can you help me with it?
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 06:40 PM
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I'd like to preface this by saying that viewing every single book/movie/comic/Tibetan animated pictogram through RP lenses is nauseating. I recently watched "History of Violence". The story is about a mild mannered man who turns out to be hardcore mob killer who left his ways. When his wife realizes that, there is a scene of intense and rough sex. That was something interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:13 PM
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I wasn't saying that Chen was disproportionate. I'm saying I would be.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 09:45 PM
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Chen Sheng was an officer serving the Qin Dynasty, famous for their draconian punishments. He was supposed to lead his army to a rendezvous point, but he got delayed by heavy rains and it became clear he was going to arrive late. Chen turns to his friend Wu Guang and asks What’s the penalty for being late? Death says Wu.And what’s the penalty for rebellion? Death says Wu.Well then… says Chen Sheng. And thus began the famous Dazexiang Uprising, which caused thousands of deaths and helped usher in…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 09:26 PM
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animu I believe the proper term is "Chinese cartoons".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:38 PM
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Male feminist at the bottom of the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:03 PM
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How are women supossed to create their own science? Institutions. You say they have a burning desire to integrate and say they dont want to contribute. They want to integrate for integration's sake. And I will be staying thank you very much. Suit yourself.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 07:13 PM
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I don't hate you or women for that matter. I don't consider being a woman being stupid. There are plenty of smart women, and women smarter than me. I just acknowledge the fact than any smart woman needs male created institutions to show off her skills. An individual woman may be genius, but women as a whole lack the ability to cooperate in a meaningful way - as evidenced by their burning desire to integrate themselves in male institutions as opposed to creating their own. You're mad because you …
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 06:38 PM
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No, your contributions are drastically low. I am sorry - but understand that I too personally come from a race which also had pretty pathetic history compared to the truly great Cultures. You come from a sentiment where male organized, male created, male associated institutions are seen as obligated to give women - whose contribution is wholly deleterious - equal chances, because the underlying notion is that free association (and thus free exclusion) is somehow oppressing. This demonstrates the…
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 05:53 PM
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Genius transcends boundaries imposed on it. The cultural explanation for women's tragically infinitesimal contribution falls short. If there were cultural barriers for women, then we would have zero important women through out centuries. We have, for example, Hildegarde of Benin or Marie Curie. However, if meek cultural barriers are strong enough to stop women from making it big, then they perhaps couldn't make it big.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 04:02 PM
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It's something I noticed in a certain thread on PPD. A user's argument was that women weren't give the same choices to show off their talents because they were women. But then I asked - why didn't they just make their own universities and colleges? It's not like we forced each and every women to breed - nuns were capable of making progress in science, and they did. Marie Curie was eventually admitted, and so were many of ancient Greek women - despite the Classical views on women. There was Srini…
/r/TheRedPill25/10/15 12:01 AM
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That's the main differences between all ideologies and political activity organized by women and by men. Their concept of freedom, equality, or whatever buzzword they want is just "give me". Ours is "leave me".
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 10:37 PM
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So, you have these fantasy scenarios and black people can't be in them because you hate SJWs so much? I have these fantasy scenarios in which PoC can't be forcibly shoehorned in because those fantasy scenarios are derivative of Slavic mythology. The equivalent of what you now asserted would be to make a movie called "The Last Black Man" starring Tom Hanks . Also, women have been playing games too for a long time. You need to talk to more women. No, they haven't. Not to the extent of men. Also, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:27 PM
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There have been female video game characters for ages. Women have always played video games, it's just some men happen to feel the world revolves around them. The latter does not lead to former. Why is having PoC's bad for a game? No one is saying that. Shoehorning PoCs where they couldn't be - as in The Witcher's case is what I am criticizing. Not wanting to be shamed and forced to "diversify" something not diverse =/= hating PoC. She isn't a fake gamer The fact that she said that she doesn't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:16 PM
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Refusing 1 million dollars and missing out the opportunity to humiliate people who harass her (didn't you say something of the "she's mean to people who are mean to her") is proof enough to at least tilt into "she faked it" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:11 PM
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it's harassment, it's rape threats, it's death threats She was offered 1 million dollars to go to police and report those same threats and provide a police document about it. It's safe to conclude that she is fabricating them for attention. This isn't without precedent - Meg Lanker Simmons did that, she sent herself rape/death threat to provide sympathy for her cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:48 PM
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Antia Sarkeesian is public enemy number one for anyone sane because she is someone who openly said that she doesn't enjoy games, while at the same time injecting tumblr-like heavily politicized feminist theory filled with pseudo-science to make money and shame men for having preferences in field made by men for men, the same field that was prior to "nerd culture xD" a social suicide for men. The very same heavily politicized SJWism that made major franchises like Mass Effect or Dragon Age into t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:45 PM
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By the end of the 1990s, we already had Bejeweled. Oh God.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:20 PM
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Why Nurnberg 1933 when you Muslim world of today is much more closer?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:26 PM
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Yet when the same "thing" has a disproportional effect on women and minorities, then the person in question no longer has the right to chose who they want to employ.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:23 PM
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I consider it to be utterly opposite. It is the ritual that is the important in the religion, and faith the cosmetic addon that makes it both aesthetically pleasing and a discriminating factor that makes sure only certain kind of people - those capable of performing and sustaining the ritual - be drawn to it. It isn't that the faith justifies or creates your view, but makes sure that you are welcome in religion to even have faith in the first place. I consider a near universality of certain ritu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:16 PM
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And the guy was parodying you guys. If you had any ability to sense parody as anything other than snarky unfunny attacks on things that make you wah-wah, you'd understand. Especially when he says They should have thought about that before adopting viewpoints that offend me. People with unhealthy views of relationships deserve to lose them. and The fact that you're fabulously successful in life despite your offensive beliefs is a total fluke. That just makes it more right for someone like me to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:05 PM
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Your point is either that men disqualifying women based on A, D, X, is somehow going to result in men disqualifying all women or that certain attributes are not good enough criteria for complete disqualification. The former is not true, and the latter I will propose an alternate mechanism over which some attributes take precedence over others. A better analogy of what that RPer was, and what I am, trying to say - consider a "RP relationship qualifying process" as a mathematical equation. Qualifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:03 PM
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Marriage is a beautiful symbol, and that meant a lot to me. And this is indicative of something. I would say that your primacy of marriage as a symbol is what makes you both sexually conservative and a welcome addition - and the faith being there to give you a rationalization of marriage as a symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:02 PM
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Then why be drawn into a discussion of a RPers trying to find "quality" women? This guy says: By avoiding these groups we greatly increase our chances of finding a quality woman. This implies that he wants a quality woman, and the context implies that he believes that they exist. Are you sure you're not deliberately misunderstanding something to feed your prejudice?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 08:20 PM
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Have you perhaps considered that the same thing that makes you a welcome addition to any man's life also made you want to stay virgin or sexually conservative? If you have, would you consider the possibility that the lack of latter is somehow indicative of the lack of former?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 08:13 PM
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This is the guy who said something akin to "well sure, if you have to know that the child is yours, then why not kill it" in a thread about paternity couple of months ago. It is not that they do not understand analogy, or hyperbole - they do that all the time when they compare TRP to rapists. It is that they do not want to take your viewpoint even into a iota of consideration. They cannot be persuaded with rhetoric anymore than you cannot sweet talk a zealous Muslim into tolerance of LGBT. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 08:11 PM
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This somehow implies that "good" women are found in those categories at a rate significant enough to offset "bad" and "fucking horrible" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:54 PM
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I thought that stuff like "access to birth control" and "family leave policies" were determined by society Don't be coy. Bitching at having leave policy especially for you is bitching at social construct - more specifically bitching for its existence. Funny how places like Scandanavia are so biologically different from the US. Yes, they are. But on the flip side they have higher taxes, I guess that's just another biological difference. Yes, it is. It's almost like you have no idea what Patriarch…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 11:05 PM
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That's the gist of TBP argument. They take what you say, reduce it to absolute extremism, and then argue with what they created as if they were arguing with you. Saying that UNESCO has a liberal bias turns into a frantic and schizophrenic diatribe how Illuminati Lizard Jew-people turn men into women by blood magic. Saying that considering every man a prior rapist is wrong is saying that rape is okay, and that you're probably raping a 7 year old right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 10:55 PM
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No, feminism bitches at things they believe are social constructs. Example 1 from a wonderful sample. The woman in here is an university academic, Gender Studies in Norway - the closest thing to Caliph/Pope of Feminism. We are led to believe a Patriarchy, an abstract and unquantifiable miasma is what makes mother want to dress girls as princesses and girls want to dress as princesses and that in absence of it, there would be 50-50 divide. Of course, you cannot show the law (which TRP can), you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 10:49 PM
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Disadvantages TRP brings forth are disadvantages created artificially, with intent to redistribute natural power from men to women - a social construct that cost more to perpetuate and that one can do away with. Example being "child support" for a child man doesn't want and he got by "sperm jacking" (it happens, albeit rarely) which is not culturally universal nor is it present in any time. Example being "ban to paternity" tests in Germany and France. Example being alimony. Things that feminists…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 10:31 PM
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Women are fundamentally intellectually inferior. Eh. Good enough approximation but upon close inspection utterly and completely wrong. It isn't that women are stupid - they're not. Average intelligence is basically the same - and by that I mean that the difference is non-statistically significant. But what makes difference in sexes - other than the difference in "desires" that makes men more "mechanically" oriented and women more "organically" (see below) is the standard deviation. Men are the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 10:14 PM
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There is a person claiming that extreme sexual promiscuity in women is something that makes men want to marry them. Within the thread that uses shitty statistics to back the "benefits" of an obsolete patriarchal institution to the group that oppressed the most and that oppresses the most. It's not that I don't have ways to refute it, I've done that - in convo with "give_me_shinies". But I find it interesting that TBP uses snark, then when they get it in return, they bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 11:39 PM
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The left turning their back on a straight white old male? Really shocking. In seriousness, don't bother to expect reason from left or women. I wrote this at PPD but stands true this - feminism is ultimate and extreme consequence of female mind. A woman doesn't have capacity of abstract thought - and by that I don't mean that they're stupid or they can't imagine mathematical models - I mean that they don't primarily operate in this kind of mode. Normally, people can operate in logical or emotiona…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 10:34 PM
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One man's trash is another man's treasure. So yes, there are men willing to wife up what you'd consider "used goods". Willing is very different from wanting. Also, "used goods" is not inherently marriage-attractive. If there is a man who marries the town bicycle, it's probably not because she's the town bicycle. And they're not. Think what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:53 PM
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red pill doesn't believe in raping women. Wait, what? Fuck these guys then, I'm out. At least we have our racist Hitler thing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:22 PM
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Again, victimhood and pity aren't "status". Yeah, they shouldn't be. What the wider culture would consider "used goods" to the point that "no man" would be willing to commit is very different to what TRP considers "used goods". Irrelevant to the discussion. The person said "contrary" to my claim "no man wants to marry used goods". I never claimed TRP preferential definition of used goods. So really, do you think that a man wants to marry "wider culture" used goods?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:21 PM
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When someone makes an assertion so out of touch with reality, and then resorts to snarky comebacks, that person is probably not worthy of a decent and well thought out line of argument. I mean, what do you want me to say? You literally said "contrary" to my citation that "no man wants to marry used goods". I mean, what? Do you seriously think that having 100+ dicks in your vagina is insta-marriage boner for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:20 PM
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If you're going to trumpet the fact that RedPill is amoral, then why aren't people allowed to post about things that are considered immoral. Like rape? "Here you are, saying that hammers are pretty amoral. Why aren't you bashing people's heads with them?" Maybe, because these things are fucking immoral? You come with the prejudice that all TRP are immoral, and then wonder why they actually aren't. To a BPer, an average RPer is probably Hitler without the Third Reich power.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 08:28 PM
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A "reputation" as in her sexual exploits are extensive and indiscreet enough to be the talk of the town, not some girl who had a few flings at uni. This is why I wrote "lol". In what bizarro universe does a divorced woman with a history of abuse have high status, esp. compared to a (seemingly/outwardly) happily married woman? Yeah, this depresses the shit out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 08:10 PM
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Most men in the Anglosphere dgaf about "n count" unless the girl was/is in the sex industry, or has a reputation. Okay. DV isn't a top-cited reason for divorce, and I see a lot more "we grew apart" type divorces than women saying their exes were abusive. The OP asserted that leaving LTR is a status negative. I said that if the woman can portray man as the abuser, then leaving him grants her victimhood. Did I say "most women seek to portray husbands as abusers to leave a marriage"? No. Do women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:13 PM
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Most evidence to the contrary. lol And no, 'most' women do not seek to portray their husbands as abusers to leave a marriage. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:16 PM
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Being married Being in a LTR. Most single guys I know could give fuck all about seeing a doctor, especially for anything preventative. This is very true for me, my father, my brother, and every single male person I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:02 PM
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Hit up google scholar, married men live longer, are healthier, earn more money and report higher happiness than unmarried men. Or women are not attracted to (and thus don't marry) men who have predisposition to live shorter, unhealthier lives, and men who don't make lot of money. Mixed cause and effect here. Most women aren't like that. lol breaking up from a LTR or divorcing is a major blow to their social status (which they are very sensitive about) No. Breaking up from a LTR or divorcing a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 12:47 PM
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No, this won't happen. It won't change to be more "gender fair". What you see now is something the feminist thought has not yet been able to process, as it is increasingly rare. When it turns out that women can by some magic draw short end of the stick, law will change to protect them. Feminists, as the extreme of feminized mind, do not use abstract concepts as justice or equality for their own sake - but they use them as tools of welfare (or what they at least think of) of women, not the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 06:07 PM
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I thought we were having an adult conversation, not a straw-woman conversation. How am I straw-wymyning you? No, I'm saying it would've been highly unlikely for women to study a subject like math, they were expected to pursue feminine arts if upper class, or to work at their family's or husband's farm or business. So? orking class (formerly serfs and slaves) were seen as less intelligent, decent and morally upstanding compared to those above them, and unfit for work above their station And that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:43 AM
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Disinterest is the excuse thrown out by people who don't understand how society pressured men and women to take different paths. I'll repeat what I said: If women are so fragile as a slight microaggression can send them spiraling into depression, then they are not robust enough to undertake actual science. Did the Srinivasa, a young (13) poor Indian male in England at the height of English colonialism face discrimination and prejudice, while being plagued by health problems all his life - includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 11:49 PM
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You are focused solely on the fact that women were barred from man-made, man-sustained, man-contributing institutions while the ForeskinLamp is trying to tell you that these same institutions are not crucial in success of a person. Obvious example is this guy. He actually did calculus for fun. All it took was an English book borrowed from a friend The difference is in values, so it is smart thing to stop this. No, really, don't respond to this. If a person is genius, his or hers talents will shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 11:21 PM
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So no, masculinity was never defined by aggression in traditional societies : it was defined by culture, manners and bravery
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:37 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry#Chivalry_before_1170:_The_Noble_Habitus ... Forbearance: knights' self-control towards other warriors and at the courts of their lords was a part of the early noble habitus as shown in the Conventum of Hugh de Lusignan in the 1020s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:24 PM
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Well buddy boy, there's no law saying you have to consent to be a parent. If there is no such law, then that is not just. There is abortion and adoption for women. There is no equivalent for men. Bodily autonomy of women allows them to kill a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:22 PM
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No. If the man voided his right within a certain time period, giving the woman plenty of time to safely abort, and giving her the sole sale of whether or not she puts up the child for abortion, he should not spent a single cent of his money, give up a single luxury, or do something he does not want to do. I understand that this kind of perspective, which shifts the tone from emotional rhetoric over a child, arguably the most vulnerable form of human being, to some general principle which places …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:19 PM
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Yes. But not really that straightforward without any caveats. I'm not going to repeat what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:00 PM
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Men built everything worthwhile while women suck. Now that's out of the way (it's a joke), testosterone is kind of odd thing. Some folks say that higher test means X, while other people say that it means anti-X. However, it's far from magical civilization building hormone TRP thinks (or at least TBP thinks TRP thinks) and far from evil straight white male engine of destruction some specific people think it is. To be quite honest, for someone who has an interest in how biology works in humans, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:55 PM
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Neglect is the guilty act on the person who is responsible for the child. Person who had zero say in the child's life, who did not consent to be named father, is not responsible party. Suppose you give the child for adoption, and then child dies in the orphanage. Are you legally responsible for its death?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:42 PM
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That's not murder by neglect. Reread the context. Neglect is the guilty act on the person who is responsible for the child. Person who had zero say in the child's life, who did not consent to be named father, is not responsible party.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:38 PM
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No one lauds single mothers, they have ceased to vilify them (mostly) but generally, they just get on with their life. It's a common, not very interesting occurence. Then why do I see "vilification" of single mothers only on TRP and fringes like that, while all the major media are so for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:52 PM
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Go back and read my commentary. Never do I mention concern for the rights of mothers. I've been very clear that my problem with this system is the fact that children will be made to suffer consequences for the actions of their parent(s). You do not have to mention your concern for the welfare (not rights) of mothers. Your bias is enough. Current system is corrupt and prone to misuses far too much. And no, your thinly-veiled concern for the "child" fools only you. Your problem with this system is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:51 PM
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I stand by my words. A woman who gets pregnant has plenty of choices and is lauded by everyone for being a brave single mother. A man who gets sucked dry, is denounced as a dead beat. Single motherhood carries far more social prestige than a man who doesn't support "his" child. Plus, there is actually no guarantee that a woman will take care of that child with the money provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:41 PM
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I don't see how a man having a financial abortion automatically compels woman to an actual abortion. Sure, it tilts it in the favour of it. But it doesn't guarantee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:39 PM
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The woman gets to choose both. Man doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:25 PM
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Not be willing to support someone you don't want is not the equivalent of killing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:24 PM
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Did you just read what I wrote? You're hammering in that strawman hard. Dude. Imagine if I said "abortion should be wrong because women will just kill 10 year old children and call it a late hour abortion". I am not saying a father can opt out whenever he wants. Do I need to ALL-CAPS it for you? I believe in accountability for both parents. No you don't. You believe that only women should have the right to choose. You believe that women have reproductive rights while men have none. You just thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:24 PM
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It actually astounds me how much women use anti-abortion arguments against financial abortion while simultaneously supporting actual abortion. You can easily live without daddy's money. You can't live if you're dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:06 PM
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My view is normal. Your view is warped and so deep into female gynocentrism it's astounding. It's impossible to have a balanced discussion when you only acknowledge potential abuses for one system, and refuse to acknowledge the potential abuses for the other. Because all the potential abuses for the other are your strawman. If a man is father, knows he's the father, he has a period of time during which he can waive his fatherhood - with all the privileges and responsibilities. If he does not act…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:03 PM
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Nope. I believe men are accountable. I believe women should be held too. So no more baby traps for lady to snatch a man. The very same argument you say can easily be applied to abortion. Hell, your "men lie on being birth control" is even applicable right fucking now. This would even the odds and grant equality which, by the way, doesn't mean that women get everything from everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 10:34 PM
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It's not his child if he doesn't want it, didn't want it, and won't want it. He consented to having sex, not to having a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:37 PM
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I beg to differ. 9 month discomfort and social privileges is not even comparable to being sucked dry for 18 years. It's far far easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:36 PM
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Don't take it out on the child for whom you took the risk, or the woman whose right to bodily autonomy will ALWAYS trump your feelings on what she does with it, including abortion, pregnancy and childbirth. No, it won't. Welfare of the child and the mother comes second to justice. The right of a man not to pay for what he had zero say in will ALWAYS trump your feeling on what she does with the child she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:23 PM
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The same argument can be used for abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:22 PM
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That's nice. But you cannot have the same argument weight for financial abortion only to be it null in abortion. If life is not so precious to warrant a 9 month breach in bodily autonomy, it is not so precious to warrant a 18 year old breach in financial autonomy. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:59 PM
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No. I believe a man should not be billed for something he didn't want. That's your strawman of it. See my other posts on the first trimester. It's not like a man says yes, then bails out scott free after a child is born. Ironically, flip the genders on all your "unjust" examples and this happens to men. A woman took sperm and impregnated herself, and man has to pay child support. A woman had sex with a minor (a crime), got pregnant, and he pays child support. It's not mercifully, it's unjustly. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:58 PM
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If you're advocating for accountability, why is the man considered a victim to you? We could just flip it around and say what anti-abortion advocates tell pregnant women: should have kept it in your pants! You see the problem here? You use the same argument against financial abortion while you don't support it against abortion. The fact remains that if two adults create a child, they are both responsible for it. No, the mother is. A man did not have a say in it. Men got the short end of the biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:32 PM
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A scenario was presented where A or B are the only possible choices. They're not, it's a false dichotomy. Society doesn't not have to support the mother. TANF is something artificial. Easily made, and even more easily done away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:29 PM
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I beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:19 PM
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Nothing you said makes any impact on the fact that it is unjust to artificially bill man for something he doesn't want to. Yes, probably, single parenthood is no joke. But her choice, her consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:19 PM
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If a child's life is not important enough to warrant a 9 month breach of bodily autonomy of a woman, it is not important enough to warrant a 18 year breach of financially (and thus bodily) autonomy of a man. Two people dying doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:16 PM
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I'd rather have a woman know she can't freeload off a man than save a single child's life. I'ts much more just that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:58 PM
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In the current system, it's both parents. No, it's the father. Mother wanted the child, father didn't. Wanted consequences are not the same as unwanted ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:57 PM
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I'm sorry, but a parent's money is not more important than a child's life. Yes it is. society will have to through their taxes to support the mother on welfare. No it won't. It's a bodily autonomy issue. A woman's bodily autonomy is not more important than a child's life. See how retarded that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:56 PM
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If you flip the script, then this is just reverses the genders, while this injustice persists. The fact that now women suffer for it, does not diminish the injustice. Ditto for men. Your scenario is a strawman. Financial abortion will be available to father if he knows in the first trimester that he's the father. It's something proactive. If he does not take the abortion, he is stuck with child support. It's that simple. The current scenario is a business transaction in which one party pays for …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:46 PM
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Child needs money, either lives in poverty/starves, is supported by tax payers, or gets child support from absent parent. The lesser of those evils - making a parent pay for their own child - is currently the best solution we have. I disagree completely. I think that the better of three options, is for child to live in poverty. I think that it's fair. Tragic, but fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:39 PM
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So your argument hinges on something more on "this is how we now feel"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:29 PM
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I am saying that financial abortion is fair. Just because it has consequences for women, doesn't mean we should artificially create something worse for men to leverage it out in the interest of some kind of faux-equality. Suppose a woman takes your sperm, and impregnates herself with it. "Abortion is much too hard, and adoption could potentially traumatize me" and there you are, forced to pay for something that happened out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:28 PM
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If the alternative is someone being singled out and forced to pay for him, then the death of the child, no matter how tragic, is the more just outcome. There are, of course, alternatives. An entire community can help pay for him, or something on a more voluntary basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:26 PM
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Okay. But you do understand this kind of argument? Imagine if you say "well, sorry, but that's how it is" in Nazi Germany or antebellum South.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:16 PM
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Financial support for over 18 years is worse than abortion and adoption. Just because it isn't easy for women, that doesn't mean it should be hard for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:15 PM
2

Well, government is wrong here. So is the majority of society, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:14 PM
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Yes. The child was wanted by her, birthed by her, using resources that belong to him and in a manner which the man did not consent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:13 PM
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It is not feasible because women form half of political electorate. Women do not vote for abstract concepts like justice, but for their own interests. Financial abortion is not a nightmare of any kind. All it takes is stopping a societal institution, passing a few sentences of law, and there it goes. What is made by society, can be usually unmade by society with far less effort. But it will never happen because women have political equality with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:10 PM
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Yep, because it's in her body. She can choose what happens to her body and anything growing inside of it. It's a real shame that men don't get to go through pregnancies/abortions, because I'm sure if they did they'd feel very differently about both options, but that's nature for you. Your pro-female bias is astounding. Financial support to a bastard is a social construct, something not real and tangible, hell something that's not even that long. It's something that's, in normal societies, looked…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:07 PM
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Why should there be an an option for creating a child and walking away consequence-free for men only? There never has been and never could be for women. Abortion. Giving up the child for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:04 PM
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When the options are force her to have an abortion, force her to live in poverty if she can't support her child, have her use taxpayer money to support the child, or make the father pay, they're going to make the father pay. And that is unjust. They should force her to live in poverty. She and her child deserve to starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:00 PM
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First and foremost, getting this out of the way - TRP says do not get married. Now on to the thing. You refuse to marry women who might be able to financially support themselves Just because a woman might financially support herself, doesn't mean she won't divorce rape you like a woman who can't. "Alimony/child support is for the baby/poor oppressed womyn" is a motte while bailey is that alimony (the one TRP dreads) means you get to pay for her to keep her "standard of life". Nas pays 25,000 dol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 01:05 PM
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So you can't say guns aren't responsible. They are the direct enabler of the majority of the deaths. Yes you can. Saying "it's the gun" devalues the act of killing, and partially takes the spotlight of the killer. It's the people who do the killing. And guns don't exactly depersonalize the act that much - bombs depersonalize it much much more, and it is quite easier to create an explosive/incendiary device than it is to obtain a gun. Plus, the act of actually pulling the trigger, aiming, hitting…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 11:01 PM
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Also, I'd like to be very very suspicious that this is related to 4chan. I mean come on, 4chan gets daily posts like that. Also, media is taking too long to report on the race of the person, and his motives - this makes me think that the shooter wasn't white and probably was religiously motivated. But time will tell. Unless he's non-white and Muslim. EDIT: He asked for religion. EDIT2: This is pretty fucked up. 4chan did a lot of fucking with the media, but how quickly they are blaming straight …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:47 PM
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/r9k/ used to be a very fun and creative board. Then it got invaded by people like this. Anyway, the /r9k/ mentality is that they seem to "worship" societal exclusion. "Normies" are disdained and hated. They stop trying to integrate into normal progression of life. They, much like the tumblr, looks to find the most despicable human qualities, and exemplify them only to wear them as badges of honor. /r9k/ is the incel equivalent of tumblr. They find despicable qualities, seek to embody them becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:31 PM
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I'm not a complete layman, I had taken courses in human physiology and anatomy (as a pharmacy student) - the math in there intrigues me though. I'm an absolute sucker for mathematical formulations of things.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 09:01 PM
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You would be amazed what a woman can do involving headlocks. IRC, it was Gracie who said something akin to "there are no toughguys in a rear naked choke".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:19 PM
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♂ This is well written and insightful text that demystifies certain things which proves absolutely invaluable. Once you understand certain things in a scientific-like manner, those things top looking so terrifying and/or addictive. A bright side of reductionist approach - one that is almost inherent in TRP. On a personal side, this textbook you linked is absolutely invaluable to my interests. I'm gonna buy that shit when my paycheck comes.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 08:16 PM
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"Male nature", or the inevitability of the "violent male brain" as some might suggest has never been a satisfying answer to me, so I consider the question worth asking personally. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:43 PM
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I think it's better to have anti-murder programs targeted towards men, since 90% of the murderers are male. I also support anti-rape programs teaching men not to rape for the same reasons: the perpetrators are overwhelmingly male. Do you think it's better to have anti-terrorist programs targeted towards Muslims, since terrorists are overwhelmingly Muslims?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:42 PM
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There is something called Gell-Man amnesia. Briefly stated, a person suffering from it describes himself as follows :I believe everything the media tells me except for anything for which I have direct personal knowledge, which they always get wrong. The generalized and alternative version of it states that "if X lied to you, then you should suspect X's legitimacy/desire to tell the truth". Feminism is an organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests. It is a political movement. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 06:54 PM
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I would hazard a guess that people who come to a debate sub are more open minded and less dogmatic than others, so in general we're going to get less radicalized posters here. I would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 05:50 PM
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I'm just gonna go and say that putting your face online (especially here) is not the brightest idea. Also, on topic, are you sure you're fully black? You look a bit light skinned and like someone even Hitler would betray his race with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:35 PM
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Sometimes I feel bad about Western civilization dying, but then I strut over to r/TBP and see that it kinda deserves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:43 PM
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Because SAHM does not have a formal codified duties that she must do. And just because someone is stuck in an office it doesn't mean he doesn't work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 01:33 PM
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GWW?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:26 PM
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Should I take that as a justification of paying someone for doing next to nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:24 PM
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You can spin it however you want. She is a shitty person. The law might reward her for being shitty, but that doesn't make her any less of a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:13 PM
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I don't see how this relates to my comment. She cannot even comprehend what she did, and how it affects John. She's a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 09:11 PM
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her own professional development for the benefit of her man, she is entitled to be looked after. Here's the thing about this whole alimony stuff. It's so fucking abstract. You can't quantify it. How do you know the time she spent would be used for her professional development? How do you quantify that she "took care of her man"? Is it there in the law that she has to do that, with penalties if she doesn't? How do you know that she wasn't just a free-loader? On the other hand, you have a working …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 08:03 PM
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And it's not even her fault. Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 07:46 PM
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I've lost counts of how many times this has been linked here. Twice by me, I think. It evoked no response. Don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 09:19 PM
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Now imagine if those creationist Christians occupied your school, college, and daycare center your child is going to. Just because you personally are not interested in dealing with X, does not mean that X is not interested in dealing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 09:19 PM
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It takes some intelligence to understand that T in AWALT does not stand for "evil, vicious whores" - and it's no wonder that BP or PPD don't get it. But merely that from behaviour of women, you can approximate their fancies, their dislikes, and the things that can do to you (good or bad). "Cuckolding divorce rapist child trapping" fits under AWALT because every women can potentially be like that - unlike men. When women want to be vicious, they will be vicious in woman-like ways. When they want …
/r/TheRedPill26/08/15 09:15 PM
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Also, you totally shouldn't link to actual threads. Use nonparticipation links. But I'm going to be banned in like, an hour or so, so it's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 09:06 PM
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You bombard them with links to studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 07:47 PM
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Rotherham.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:21 PM
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As for sign holding that's another matter, I'd argue that women's strategy for affecting social and political change is totally different than just the act of protest, vote, etc. But that's a different topic too. I didn't literally mean that. It was a hyperbole. But please do articulate what you meant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 11:44 PM
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bell hooks. Oh God. Where do you think that "if you're white male you're by definition the oppressor in the society white males built that has ton of affirmative action for womyn and pocs" come from? Do you think those tumblerinas came from a vacuum? Or was there some sort of place that radicalizes people into hard left wing?Some sort of people who believe that kind of stuff could gather there and preach away. It's a nice thing - oh, no those radfems are just tumblerinas and totally not represen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:53 PM
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You do have to understand - find any bloody event in Europe's history and you will have young men at its core. It's not being "racist" (heh), it's just being real. Disfranchised womyn hold signs. Disfranchised men storm the Bastille. You might think "oh, but men are not really that bad" but French aristocracy thought the same thing. It doesn't even matter if the disfranchisment is real. It matters that the feeling is. I am not saying I condone that shit or somehow subscribe to that bullshit, I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:34 PM
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Young (straight white, but Asians can apply too) men have been the engine of overwhelmingly lot of relevant processes - from sciences to the bloody revolutions. The American Revolution was straight white young men, the French Revolution was straight white men, the Communist Revolutions were straight white men - hell, even the emancipation of slaves and liberation of concentration camps was straight white men. The best others, and by that I mean mostly women, could do was hold signs. Hold signs a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:05 PM
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+/u/User_Simulator /u/Denswend
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 05:27 PM
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+/u/User_Simulator /u/Denswend
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 02:08 PM
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Blacks also commit more violent acts than whites so their overrepresentation in jails is more due to their overrepresentation in violent cri.... Oh wait, that was racist. Funny how we can use men are more violent to justify anti-male policies, but we can't use blacks are more violent to justify anti-black policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 08:37 AM
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Let me just say it : All forms of male oppression is not in any way related to feminism. It is a remnant of traditional gender roles which are abusive to women and men - they dehumanize women by placing them in can-do-no-wrong category and dehumanize men by placing them in the provider role. Feminism seeks to combat traditional gender roles by empowering both men and women. In a perfectly feminist world - there will be no traditional gender roles and therefore women will be held to the same stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 08:36 AM
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In that case, I stand corrected.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 08:09 PM
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Probably the most important thing I've got from TRP is that you never take what a woman and female-like creatures says out of context, and then try to apply it generally. "Oh, silly, it's the who raises them that's important" when it comes to banning paternity tests while at the same time "It's your sperm, so pay shit up" when the topic of child support comes up. A person might ask "but isn't that hypocritical - cause you support cultural thesis in one instance, but deny it in the other". Dead w…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 08:32 PM
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Oh, that would be most interesting - you should definitely try to organize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 10:46 AM
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This works under the assumption that feminism is about equality. A casual glance at VAWA and Duluth model and ban on paternity test speak otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:56 AM
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Can you explain the rationale behind thinking sexism and negativity towards women are counter productive to sexual success?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 04:10 AM
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I like how your entire critique of TRP is trying to portray us as "losers of the dating world" - essentially attacking us in one polite ad hominem as hateful virgins. Especially when you have yet to demonstrate how well does less skilled negative gamer correlate with loser in dating market. Are you sure you didn't misread something? Or do you somehow think that being negative to women negatively correlates with winning the dating market? Then you have to prove that being RP correlates with losin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:41 AM
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Reread the picture - the guy says he doesn't believe in patriarchy and white/male privilege. A lot of socialist big shots would shit on 3rd wave feminist mode. And who do you think is more fit on r/socialism, a guy who is socialist but does not believe he's the Devil for being born a white male, or a feminist who prefers capitalism to socialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 03:28 AM
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The only thing I've read was Elementary Particles, and this was so long ago that I can't even remember what it was about. But I do hear his Submission is well-received. If you are wondering about the quotes, it's something I picked up (including the All Socialists Are Like That, but it was a bitch finding the image to fit) over the net.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 02:50 AM
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What exactly is this pills collide and how is it different than Purple Pill Debate?
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 02:16 AM
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Well, let me explain the crazy mindset the cult of TRP has. It's going to be a long post, so brace yourself. It will even have some Dork Enlightenment stuff in it (think like fascists on steroids, except instead of muscles, neckbeards and fat) cause there's a lot of overlap between two. TRP has this crazy thing called Briffault's Law (more like Brifag's Law, amirite?). Read up on it. No, seriously, read up on it it's like a half a paragraph long. Take note the following corollaries the Grand Mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 02:05 AM
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Goddamn it I wanted to post this. I'm even Dorkly Enlightened (I'm euphoric too). We should really cut back on our extremism, otherwise I'm gonna lose my special snowflake identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:18 PM
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Yeah, try explain it to BP folks. "Hey guys, we really want to limit those nasty brown people from reproducing because those icky brown people are folks who do the actual bad stuff to women and tha..." "WAH WAH WACISM HITLER" And they they'll have their real rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:16 PM
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This reminds me of the #EndFathersDay 4chan hoax. Basically, /pol/ tried to do a false flag feminist trending with the goal of ending father's day. The real genius (or tragedy, if you will) was that even though people found out it was fake, people could still believe it was made by feminists. Especially considering #YesAllMen. When we debate AWALT we do so in a sexual context - all women act similarly and we can generalize 3 billion people pretty well (after all, if we couldn't generalize 3 bill…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 06:05 PM
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IRC he loved her and she loved him, but his philosophical outlook had him shun her completely.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 05:57 PM
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"It’s a fact, I mused to myself, that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or ne…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 03:20 PM
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You do realize which demographic is the fastest growing? Hint : it ain't the privileged white race. Good luck trying to convince other people that a lot of Muslims and blacks isn't a good idea for a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:29 PM
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It's fairly simple logic. Societies that "oppress" women by taking away their opportunity to achieve higher status have higher birth rates. Culture means quack, even if it's Islamic "don't let women watch volleyball games", if women still retain their ability to become higher status - as seen in Iran which retains silly restrictions on women while holding non-silly ones. Now the societies which are "nice" and supplicating, give women participation in the workforce which more or less lowers the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:25 PM
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It will take a couple of generations of adjustment but we should ideally decrease our numbers to survive as a species. We're not decreasing our numbers as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:53 AM
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Okay, no one is judging or forcing you to talk with me. Sorry there was no meaningful information exchange. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:47 PM
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Brevity is the soul of wit, friend. Please do try to prune back your verbiage next time, you're presently at the border of the signal-to-noise ratio I'm willing to deal with. Herp. That's quite the leap. I've said that I don't think gender is a useful category on which to base heuristics. Therefore I reject all category-based heuristics? Would it surprise you to learn that I do actually believe that some category-based heuristics are useful, but I don't think gender is one of them? Okay. How abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:33 PM
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You haven't really defined "universal equality". The innate equality of races and sexes. That black people are equal to white people are equal to Asians. That men are equal to women. What is it that you believe I believe? We've already established that I don't think everyone is biologically identical. Which plays right into the narrative. You believe that, while all people are biologically different, there can be no useful category drawn from their biological similarity to one another - either t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:31 PM
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I'm not saying you're dumb or that I'm smart. I don't really think that there's much of a difference between you and me - the only difference between you and me currently relevant is the difference in value systems. I'm not saying anything about your mental abilities. I'm sure that you're not stupid. I honestly do not think that you are any stupider than a Catholic or a Muslim. They too believe certain things even though they are impossible to reconcile with our current understanding of reality …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 01:42 PM
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Yes, I've seen the "studies" you lot use to support your biotoofs that men are naturally more ambitious (because they need status to get sex), natural leaders (because testosterone), natural entrepreneurs (because testosterone), and naturally more logical and intelligent than women (because, uh....you're a mangina if you don't agree ok??). No, I don't find them convincing. There could be a culturally universal study done by all the best scientists of the world that shows one percent difference i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 12:31 AM
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Oh this reminds me of "the real misandry" bullshit radfems love to spew. No, the real misandry isn't the fact that a woman can accuse you of false rape with zero consequences or the disgusting divorce industry - the real misandry is saying that men are too shallow for used up CC riders. Nah. All this "misandry" stems from generalization about male nature. You can generalize about human nature, and you can generalize about male or female nature. The degree of accuracy of any particular generaliza…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 11:52 PM
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It would work because she's a woman - and not because of this newfound masculine attitude. She can get sex anytime she wants. Now whether or not this type of behaviour would increase the chance of men committing is debatable. Personal opinion is that it wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 09:13 PM
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I would be quite surprised and doubt a woman could be so straightforward and juicy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 05:16 PM
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Oh, you mean he didn't actually say bad things about women with a malicious intent to preserve a boy's club in all of STEM? Damn boy, Sherlock's got nothing on your deductive skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:26 PM
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I didn't comment on what you posted - merely remarked on something generally heard. Communicate. But I'm not quite sure how they would quantify all these things. Even my inner autist who squeals at any attempt to categorize the uncategorizable is confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:44 PM
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The funny thing? Had he come here, we would tell him the exact fucking thing. You don't plate a gal who wants LTR with you. You don't. No, you don't do it cause muh-6-billion-women-oppressed-by-patriarchy. No, you don't do it cause she's a human being and we can simply say you're not treating women equally/as human beings when we don't like you. You do it because she builds a resentment towards you. A woman who considers a plate status is the prior step to a LTR status is not someone you want to…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 06:39 PM
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That is a really, really contrived way of saying "people who love each other tend to have lasting relationships". This is golden. Also, I'm just going to throw out that communicate does not necessarily mean verbally communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:22 PM
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Yeah, that is a false dichotomy if I've ever seen one. The commenter is good with logic, but not consistent. Yes, women enjoy sex. Yes, they trade it for affection and stability. Those two are not mutually exclusive. However, women place less emphasis on sex than men. This does not mean that women don't value sex. Now, why do women value sex? Because they get A)progeny and B)stability. The same reason men value sex - with a less emphasis on B. These things aren't rational, and they aren't negoti…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 06:21 PM
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Funny thing is, had this guy come to TRP, we would tell him what is healthy for him. No, committing to an easy woman is never a good idea. Sex dries up, you are stuck in a relationship where you cannot fulfill your basic needs, and she considers you less than a man - but they will never articulate it because they need their moral superiority. Currently, committing to a 11/10 traditional RPW is not a good idea either - because divorce rape and such. So we would shield him from an abusive relation…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 04:21 PM
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You misunderstand their position. They consider equality of men and women, of all races, something that is set in stone - an undeniable truth, much like the wetness of water or 2+2=4. Sure, they might say that certain races/genders/orientations do things differently and have different dispositions - but the dogma is still here. It's what happens when you don't add "but people are not all equal because that's fucking stupid and contradictory to evolution and basic common sense" to "all people sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:07 PM
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Global change in brain structure of men and women. No social "programs" can change that which nature made. Unless of course your social program includes a train ticket to a gas chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 10:21 PM
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Countries that provide parental leave, health care for all, and other stuff have better upward social mobility, are better off as a whole, etc. See, that's an interesting idea. I look at countries like Norway, Sweden, Germany, etc and it certainly makes sense. But then again, Soviet Union and Yugoslavia had this things too. And it kinda sucked to live there. Perhaps there's something else that makes these countries so awesome to live in, that isn't parental leave, health care for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 12:04 AM
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Yeah, this is pretty abusive. But then again, locking up rapists and pedophiles is abusive too. Imagine being stuck in a concrete cell with nasty criminals for a long long time. So yeah, this might be asshole move on his part, "emotionally abusive", but this is totally just.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 11:55 PM
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In the books, Ramsay is cowardly porker who can only do damage to prisoners who can't fight back. In the series, Ramsay is kinda hot, takes out heavy metal vikings shirtless with his dogs, destroys a opposing king's camp (seriously, how the hell did he find supplies?) with TWENTY GOOD MEN, and has a woman (Miranda) who worships him. Series Ramsay is being Draco Malfoy'ed to appeal to tumblr girls who sorted themselves in Slytheryn back in the 7th grade. And it's working. EDIT : And Khal Drogo di…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 10:47 PM
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So what is the difference between this and putting on ex-girlfriend's nude picture she sent to you on the internet? Wouldn't a nude picture be a "gift," and thus you are fully within your rights to do whatever you want with it, even if she hasn't given her explicit approval about that particular use of the gift? The difference in who can potentially get damaged from applying the law equally. If it's women, then it's taboo. But we already know that. That BPer should be outraged that a man got sue…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:01 PM
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Scouring through PPD I saw a thread decrying TRP for being offensive. Pretty standard jab, they took the Girl on TwoXChromosomes continues hooking up with "an inconsiderate, disgusting douchebag" for 3 years straight. Hamsters ahoy! and ran everything they could to make us look as evil woman hating extremists. Things like not agreeing with woman by default and second guessing what she says. Pretty standard spiel of "TRP EXPLAIN URSELF" when the content is not even that bad. Yet this thread is th…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 09:37 PM
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This is a classic BP attempt of "look at how bad the TRP elite are, and look how everyone agrees with them". And you're gonna have a nice circle jerk about it here. TRP doesn't try to appeal to people, that is true. Things TRP says are often taken out of context, yes - but not in this case. Things TRP says are often hyperbolic, yes. Take it from a EC of TRP, and other folks there, there is nothing that you quoted that is morally bad, or somehow a thing TRP has to feel shame for. The bad thing al…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 08:35 PM
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You are confusing the genetic strategy I am talking about for the genes with a correct strategy for the meatbag puppets (you). Marriage is monogamous institution. If you put yourself in a position where you are only able to impregnate one woman, then that is disadvantageous. Now, you can cheat on your wife, but then you get divorce raped. Now your SMW is lower, cause you're a man and your financial power is crippled. So lower chance for sex. Lower chance for sex, lower chance for procreation. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 09:41 PM
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Marriage increases the liklihood they are yours and has done so through human history to greater and lesser extents. No it doesn't. There is nothing innately in a marriage that makes your children yours.How would that even work? A woman can easily cheat on you and convince you the child is yours, regardless of her marital status. You may put a ring on her finger, but that doesn't really change much. And besides, marriage is not some kind of womb unlocker. A woman can get pregnant even outside ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 07:06 PM
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1) Ensuring the copies are yours so that Marriage doesn't ensure copies are yours. It ensures that you have to take care of them. Some marriages, like in France or Germany, even prohibit you from making sure that copies are yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 05:02 PM
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You say : But I think they're the exception to the norm, rather than the norm like many on here would suggest. You see, it isn't that one instance of false rape that sends my alarm bells ringing. It's the way society, the college campus, and Mattress girl's social circle treated it. She filed a false rape charge, got proved to be a liar and she only got a slap on the wrist. He got, at best, slandered reputation and ruined life. At worst, he gets a pounding in prison by 6 foot guy with 8" cock na…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/15 10:18 PM
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Something always irked me about alimony. Let's say you have a SAHW and a working husband. They divorce and she gets alimony under pretenses that she "sacrificed" her earning potential. So he reimburses her for "potential". Why isn't the woman reimbursing him for taking care of her by feeding her and providing shelter. This way it seems that whatever the woman did do at home (note that nowhere does it state that she has to do anything) is more valuable than actual monetary work that put food on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 08:25 PM
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1)In order to have working polygyny, you need to have more women than men. 2)If there are more women than men, women will have rule making power. 3)If women have rule making power, women will vie for women rights and empowerment. She made a statement about how you need more women than men to have polygyny. She then made a statement that women majority means that women will have the rule making power. Both statements are false. Latter only works in a context of democracy. And I really don't see m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 01:28 PM
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Kinda like how Islam (the world's biggest polygyny community) is a pioneer in women rights and empowerment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 10:37 AM
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I, personally, will say I don't know. But I don't see it as a cop out. Good for you. Some people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 07:31 PM
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This type of thought process, which belittles the recognition of uncertainty that we have on human nature, will stop you from reaching objective truth. I do not belittle the recognition of uncertainty. I belittle the notion that certain things should be kept uncertain. I belittle the notion that we should stop and marvel at uncertainty, much like "God works in mysterious ways". Read this and tell me that this isn't "stop doing this cause political implications are bad" and tell me that this is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 07:31 PM
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I hope I won't offend you but "yes, there are both ingrained and learned differences, but we can't find out which are more important and which are not" is something I encounter in meek people who are more concerned with maintaining internal consistency rather than getting objective truth, and who use this to simply handwave all this stuff away and think of unicorns and rainbows. We can figure out what is nature and which is nurture. We are working on it. So far, it's not going well for nurture. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 05:01 PM
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People that are raised in different cultures also tend to be different people altogether. But if you really and honestly want to know the answer to "nature versus nurture" without hammy "well, it's both but we don't really know cause we are so gosh darned complex creatures and blah blah blah" you take people from other cultures, put them into different cultures, watch them raise their children within this new culture and see the differences. Anti-TRPers (those who are too meek to consider TRP to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 04:47 PM
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Nah, I'm a Croat and we're quite similar to Ukranians. We're not the same, but we are pretty similar. All Slavs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:25 PM
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Ah np bro, it's all so similar anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:07 PM
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If it wouldn't inconvenience you, could you perhaps post a link to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:43 PM
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First off, sorry for responding so late, I had IRL stuff I had to do which I could not postpone. Now, with that out of the way. Secondly, there is too big of a discrepancy between one study and the second. Foubert, who is not himself without bias (like HoffSummers), has his criticism, but so does HoffSummers. There are two surveys here, one which is biased towards your side (the CDCs) and my side (NCVS). For example, the article compares the older Campus Sexual Assault Survey (which found 14-20%…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 06:00 PM
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I like how the bluepilled quickly put it on /r/thebestof only for folks to call bullshit on it. The argument of alimony is one that is so puzzling. The non-working party is to reimbursed for the potential they could have earned during marriage, while the working party should not be reimbursed for the actual labour they put feeding and sustaining the non-working party. The fact that some men receive alimony (what, like 3 percent of all alimony receivers) does not even impact it. An injustice done…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:32 PM
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Nah, his points aren't valid because his beliefs are completely biased and show that he really has no idea about what he is talking about. I wonder, can we apply the same thing with feminism. You know, since they're heavily biased. Or is feminism, an organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests somehow immune to this. Because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:22 PM
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Let me put it this way. There's a reason that a wiki article for "Frankfurt School" exists while an article for "cultural marxism" does not. It's not called "cultural marxism," it's the Frankfurt School. There was a wiki article on cultural marxism. It was removed, and the guy who removed it considers himself a cultural marxist. Plus, many of contributors to wikipedia called bullshit on relabeling the wiki page, since it clearly followed ideological paradigm : Oppose Cultural Marxism is an estab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 11:20 PM
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Let me just quote my man, H.Dampier : The idea of phobia derives from the thought of Freud. Although there are theories about what physically causes the symptoms observed by psychiatrists, there are no objective tests for the existence of this syndrome (collection of symptoms). Further, most of the writers accusing various people of having ‘phobias’ are not clinically qualified to do so, and even if they were, they would not be able to legally diagnose it outside of a clinical setting. .... Ther…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/15 09:34 PM
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I'm not sure why you're linking this? It just seems to be saying that college women experience sexual assault/rape at a rate 1.2x higher than non-students. This shows a sexual assault rate of 43 per 1000 and not of 250 per 1000. Why do we have two different results depending on your survey? Furthermore, this recent one puts it at 6.1 per 1000. Why am I able to find statistics from U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics (one which is more recent and doesn't come with the stamp …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:20 PM
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Many of those abusers walk the streets. Why is there a UVA rape panic when those walk free? Why do they have a need to create fictional boogeyman when there's a real one in our midst?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 11:30 PM
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Maybe I should have clarified this earlier, but I'm not talking about rape experienced specifically by students. I don't see how it's relevant to distinguish between rape of students vs non-students, what I'm referring to is the general trend of rapes which is covered by sources like the CDC. Guy took the entire number of rapes in the entire USA. Then he even included unreported rapes. That number is significantly lower than the number of rapes of colleges if we go by 1 in 5 women are raped on c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 11:28 PM
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It would actually be effective if John Durant examined rape culture instead of pointing the finger at feminists for their 'coverage' of a widely reported incident. Basically, since the news were all over it, feminists did not need to fight against this rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:50 PM
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You are really, really clutching at straws if you think this is compelling. Fair point. I should reexamine my findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:49 PM
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On a side related not, I kinda "hate" you. I always get in this kind of arguments with you when I really really don't have the time for :p No, I did not see your edit. Sorry, I'll respond to it right now. Your edit posts huffpo which states : "Over the years, I've grown to distrust NCVS," Foubert, who is also president of the advocacy group One In Four, told The Huffington Post. Foubert said the study's methodology, which includes telephone calls, can leave the data open to errors because resear…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:47 PM
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So it's a conservative women's group that pretty much parrots whatever CHS says...not exactly a neutral source dude. You wouldn't let me get away with posting a jezebel opinion piece as credible would you? They are conservative group. Which is why we doubt them. I never said that we should use a neutral source. I only said that you should check their facts. Which they don't cite or link to, unlike the article I linked earlier. ... http://www.soci270.carvajal.ca/documents/KossTheScopeofRape.pdf I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 09:14 PM
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http://twitchy.com/2014/09/03/john-durant-compares-coverage-of-rotherham-abuse-vs-jennifer-lawrence-nudes/ He found left-leaning news website Slate had one story on the Rotherham child exploitation scandal, but four stories on nude Jennifer Lawrence. He also found that feminist website Jezebel had only one story on the Rotherham child exploitation scandal, but six stories on nude Jennifer Lawrence. Feministing gave Rotherham a one-sentence mention in a links roundup (just underneath “five hundre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 08:08 PM
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http://twitchy.com/2014/09/03/john-durant-compares-coverage-of-rotherham-abuse-vs-jennifer-lawrence-nudes/ He found left-leaning news website Slate had one story on the Rotherham child exploitation scandal, but four stories on nude Jennifer Lawrence. He also found that feminist website Jezebel had only one story on the Rotherham child exploitation scandal, but six stories on nude Jennifer Lawrence. Feministing gave Rotherham a one-sentence mention in a links roundup (just underneath “five hundre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 08:08 PM
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Actually, the 1-in-4 statistic came from a scientific survey conducted in 1987 by Dr. Mary Koss for the National Institute of Mental Health, which found that 28 percent of women in college experienced rape or attempted rape, and 15 percent had experienced rape, since age 14. ... The one-in-four statistic, she found, was derived from a survey of 3,000 college women in 1982. Researchers used three questions to determine if respondents had been raped: Have you had sexual intercourse when you didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 07:56 PM
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Oh yeah, sorry about my long response. I didn't even noticed you had commented - only by looking at my inbox history. It bugs out like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:49 PM
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Replace UVA with 1/5 women are raped on colleges. It certainly does. Doubt MRM as well as you doubt feminism - a group promoting men's rights promotes men's rights, not equality. So doubt the presentation. Doubt White Supremacists when they give you crime statistics for blacks and their theories for that. Doubt even unbiased people like scientists. But always check the sources, and see if they the methodology for collecting facts was good and as objective as it could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:47 PM
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Are you trying to get to /u/strategicatomicmoose to put you on BP? Cause you've got to be more subtle than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:28 PM
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... Rotherham rape scandal had less coverage than Jennifer Lawrence's nudes and Gamergate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 06:27 PM
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Yeah sorry but some sources don't deserve to be taken seriously. By that extension, should we doubt all feminists because they are unbiased and prone to hysteria. Like the rape scare of UVA?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 04:25 PM
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No-one who isn't being faceitious or ignorant genuinely disputes this. Hell, most RPers and even some MRAs would concede this. No, they wouldn't. Only in third world. In first world, women's "oppression" is vague and abstract. I disagree. I dont think Feminism deliberately or directly increases gender discrimination against men and I think you'd be hard pressed to find a mainstream feminist who desires more discrimination against men. Here. This has enough sources to last you quite a while. ead …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 04:21 PM
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There are almost no wife-driven divorces in Pakistan. Does that prove relationships in Pakistan are happier? Pakistan and Western world are not equivalent. There is more noise made by Western feminists about how the Western world in unfair to women. There is almost next to no noise made by Western feminists about the unfairness of Muslim countries to women. Since feminism is all about equality, does that mean that Muslim countries treat women better than Western countries? Of course, to indulge …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 04:09 PM
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There is a saying in my country which roughly translates to "who beats you loves you". And this vile thing is told to women from day one of kindergarten. How do they not end up in abusive relationship is beyond me, especially with that much of women objectification rampant in media. I mean, from Princess Leia in a bikini (the fact that she was the one who wanted to wear it only proves how much society weights down on women) to a common trope among ads, how do they not get lesser self esteem from…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:59 PM
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So basically, a higher divorce rate among couples who share egalitarian view on chores is in no way related to the happiness of the couple and a divorce is a good thing because it enables unhappy relationship to pass, but only those relationships that don't share egalitarian view. Perfect BP sense. Maximal logical inconsistency with maximal attack on non-egalitarian worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 03:35 PM
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(that there is no discrimination based on racial prejudice, just differences in racial aptitude). No one is claiming that. Tribal mentality and clannishness is a part of HBD. And yes, there are differences in racial aptitude. And no, this doesn't mean that all whites are smarter than all blacks. You claim to be advocating hard science devoid of moral pre-supposition, and yet you disclaim all the scientific evidence that racist-driven racial discrimination is a massive problem. I've yet to see sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:33 PM
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Oh, I remember that case where a guy had a penis in her for five seconds after she withdrew consent (lololo) and he got charged for rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 01:22 PM
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I'm a sweet and caring guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 08:25 PM
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What is this? A wild RP sticking to principles of both genders having a right to their own preferences? Shocking. Next thing I'm going to see is a male friendly feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 04:50 PM
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Says a person who built a strawgiant out of RP. And no, I never made any rhetorical questions - you're free to answer them all. And are you not making these cases? TRP doesn't shy away from telling men to work out to attract a good partner ... You also seem under the impression that being a good LTR material leads women in a LTR with you, a LTR which is beneficial to both (marriage!). TRP constantly says that being a good LTR material drastically lowers your chance of sex, let alone a LTR. At le…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 04:49 PM
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Oh, I never said it doesn't exist. Why would I? You are under the impression that being a good LTR material is beneficial to men. You also seem under the impression that being a good LTR material leads women in a LTR with you, a LTR which is beneficial to both (marriage!). Furthermore, you think high partner count men should not aim to LTR chaste women - holding the other party to a standard you yourself do not adhere to is hypocritical, right? Should men, who have penis, stop wanting women, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 01:05 PM
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I never said anything about men who want LTR. Men who go to TRP want plating - maximum sex at minimal commitment. LTR is the opposite of that. TRP (disregarding marriedTRP) teaches strategies for plating, not LTR. And something being sexist as hell doesnt make it false by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 11:43 AM
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self improvement Why exactly would making a man fit for a LTR be improvement for him? Especially in the context of marriage. Men fit for LTR (beta bux) are what they try to avoid to be. Making a man fit for a LTR =/= improving a man
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 11:55 PM
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It's nothing factual, nothing I can actually ground in evidence. It's just my irrational thought, my instinct, that I rationalize when I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 11:53 PM
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I think that high partner count women are unfit for LTR. I think that high partner count men are unfit for LTR. This is relatively founded. I also think that high partner count men are generally worse people than high partner count women. That's just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:10 PM
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Imagine how it's for me! My gender is fascist (my preferred pronouns are Fuhrer, Fuhrers, Fuhrerself). I'm oppressed left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:21 PM
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Non-racist people don't make gross generalisations based on someone's skin colour. Is different than Non-racist people don't make gross generalisations based on someone's race. Since skin color is not race.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:45 PM
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I just want people to stop shitting on HBD as if I was promoting genocide on racial basis. Just you know, acknowledge that we're not all equal in everything. Plus, this isn't how stuff works. There are variations within race. It's pointless to think in binary "all whites must be smarter than all blacks". It's the gaussian curve. Blacks are on average less smarter than whites, who are on average less smarter than Asians, within standard deviation. Average of something doesn't tell you anything ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:44 PM
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Race isn't just skin color.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:40 PM
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You do realize that it isn't? Race based drugs are indispensable to pharmacy, as are race based medical treatments. Anything where genes are related, people try to find variance of them in different population. And besides, it has the "potential" to encourage worst in people. So does communism. So does feminism. So does religion, which has a pretty good record, including Islam - which currently takes the cake. Ban Islam! Different political ideologies lead to worst of human behaviour. Ban politi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:52 PM
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In the context of moral questions, questions about how people should be treated or what assumptions we should make about individuals, racial differences are not relevant. It makes sense for institution. Not for an individual. There are no areas in which a racial difference in intelligence, if one exists, are relevant to practical concerns in modern society. Racial differences exist. So do racial differences in tendency towards violence. If you don't want to get mugged and raped and killed (which…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:49 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2u2i26/nailed_it_a_beginners_guide_to_the_redpill_right/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:34 PM
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Other sciences have the potential to destroy the world. Mathematics made physics possible. Physics made the nuke possible. Chemistry made bio-weapons. Sociobiology has the potential to encourage worst in some people. Why not ban chemistry instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:31 PM
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Who denys the existence? We deny the RELEVANCE Basically, you deny the relevance? What about lactose intolerance? Is race irrelevant then? How can such an abstract justification possibly outweigh the potential harm The same thing was put forth by de Maistre, a counter revolutionary (a hard core reactionary) against ideas of liberalism. You would inhibit science because there is a potential "harm" threat. He would inhibit "social ideas" because there is a potential "harm" threat. And I find that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:21 PM
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How hard is it for you to understand? 1. TRP makes up BP mentality and RP mentality, BP mentality is the first definition of BP 2 A group of SJWs takes up the mantle of BP, a group of SJWs is the second definition of BP It's kinda like "if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound" paradox. If you define "sound" as "vibration of molecules of air" then it does make a sound. But if you define "sound" as "something people perceive with their ears" then no, it doesn't. Both …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:17 PM
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I consider myself a pretty nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 12:20 AM
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No. I don't lean towards any position here. I said "I don't know whether he isn't or isn't. I don't care". But I noticed that you do have a pattern of making it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 03:24 PM
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There is no "tolerance". This article elucidates that : It seems to me that you only pardon the sins that you don’t really think sinful. You only forgive criminals when they commit what you don’t regard as crimes, but rather as conventions. You forgive a conventional duel just as you forgive a conventional divorce. You forgive because there isn’t anything to be forgiven. Their value is "equality". Tolerance is only a buzzword that long departed from its original meaning. And I do not mean "equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 03:23 PM
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I'm not saying that you're making it up right now. I'm saying that BP side has a history of making it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 03:05 PM
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The black lesbian trans woman is also trans racial. She is born Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:50 PM
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Observe, two BPers outside their natural habitat prowling for RP trashtalk. They made contact. They are too few in number to make a circlejerk, but damn they are trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:49 PM
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I never said I'm pretending that you're making it up in this instance. I only said that I've seen the BP side making it up quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:47 PM
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Sometimes when you use BP you mean a specific, narrow group of radical feminists. Sometimes you mean "anyone on the left" and sometime you mean "anyone not RP". I cant keep track of which you mean this time. It's pretty fucking simple : RP came first. They discussed difference in post RP and pre RP WORLDVIEW. They said the former is just RP, while the latter is BP. This is RP defining what BP is. Then came a bunch of SJW zombies, and adopted BP name "ironically". So we have two definitions of BP…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:46 PM
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The people "investigating" bio truths are rarely proper scientists either to be fair. They are philosophers, political scientists etc. That is false. It is more true to say that people investigating "racial blindness" are not proper scientists. People who used bio truths (let's just call them truths because that's what they are) are found here. I can fathom being blind to race when discriminating. Okay, everyone deserves an equal chance. But I cannot possible fathom denying existence of race. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:35 PM
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I like it a lot because it shows that certain things about societies is true. They need a myth to keep them together. In Islamic world, it's Islam. In Christian world, it's Christianity. In communist world, it's communism. In progressive and "tolerant" world, it's "progress" and "tolerance". And all societies which find their myths questioned will quickly spring to inqusitional level. Rationalist liberals of the 18th century prioritized rational inquiry for the sake of rational inquiry. Liberals…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:29 PM
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I don't care much for him. I find it funny this BP mentality where you like rats peruse RPers for nasty comments and then when you find it you share it among yourselves and circlejerk/outrage yourselves to oblivion. I didn't bother to read his story, nor will I. It wouldn't be the first time you BPers made rape of something that isn't - like that time a guy said he had a drunken anal sex with his wife and you screamed RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:26 PM
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So I was told. And he did. Oh lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 02:11 PM
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Came there from /pol/. I expected a detailed summary of Jewish lizard people controlling the White Race through cultural marxism and anime. All I got was an edgy PUA community.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:38 PM
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Question - if a black Muslim hairdresser refuses to cut a black lesbian trans woman's hair, who do you side with?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:02 PM
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http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/10/17/ignoble-lies/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:00 PM
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Oh chillax, occultism is fun for everyone! If your movement doesn't have some crazy occult theory of world, then it probably sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 12:59 PM
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Of course he does. He is the stereotypical BP. Try to bait your opponent into "racist", "sexist", "whatever nonsense is in lately" stuff, if you don't just reframe it or take it out of context ("women are great but men suck" --->"women ... suck") or even give your own insightful claim ("here you can see a wild RPer explaining why some people find the notion of marital rape stupid, clearly they're all rapists"). And voila, you've got yourself A grade circlejerk and self esteem boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 12:57 PM
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Yes its ethnocentric, but I'm not apologising for that. Obviously my value judgements only apply to modern western socieities. So do yours. Its the perspective we come from. I'm not a westerner. But okay. Even still, you disregard my second objection - BP paradigm only existed for about 20 years or so, and still isn't commonly accepted. To say that BP paradigm, which is in direct opposition to Greek philosophers (cough cough, Socrates and Aristotle), to German philosophers (like Kant or Hegel or…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 12:54 PM
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There's a difference between self-proclaimed BP, and RP theory of BP. B/RP are more of a paradigm about sexual relations. BP paradigm only applies to small percentage of population (Western Europe and USA, with some peculiar countries here and there) so to say that BP applies to almost everyone is Ethnocentrism (or better termed - whitecentrism). China, Russia, African countries, Muslim countries (which hold quite a bit of population) do not share feminist/BP sentiments. In fact, I suspect that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 12:03 PM
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This should cheer you up even more! It has Red Pill/NRx = Nazis but mentions all the cool occult stuff too! What is Nazism without occultism? Nothing!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 11:31 AM
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The thing that pisses me off the most is that they failed to mention our Luftwaffe division hiding in Arctic waiting to strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 11:30 AM
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Be sure to check out "Mouthbreathing Machiavelians who Dream of Silicon Reich"! Other than that, this is just BP outrage porn. Fill an article about RP/NRx/Conservatives/White Men with "racist/sexist/misogynist/ableist/Islamophobic/homophobic/transphobic" and add a variation to the theme and voila! Of course, mention that feminism is all about equality, Islamophobia is just blind paranoia which does not translate into real world (other than in minds of hateful bigots, that is), and fighting raci…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 11:22 AM
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/u/strategicatomicmoose linking to BP with the name "Serial TRP rapist hamsters away his rapey tendencies in 3..2...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 11:21 AM
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Furthermore, something that I always wanted to know. How do they quantify unreported crimes to make "reported vs. unreported" percentage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:44 PM
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Well, my mode of logic is that both men and women want the other sex, and are vaguely aware (or even on subconscious level) of what other sex wants. But put this in intra-sexual competition and you get quick distortion of what wo/men want as men and women compete for women and men but with other men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:37 PM
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My question is not posed to people who find "false rape crime" ambigious but who are staunch opponents of it. Your stance would be better suited to the thread mentioned in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:34 PM
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Basically publicity around making a new law regarding false rape allegations is likely to have more of a negative effect on reporting and current punishments are roughly optimal ratio of punishing false rape claims and discouraging reports of a crime I can dig that. It's a good perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:33 PM
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Is there something wrong with my logic? Other than the fact that was put forth by a racist, misogynist modern day Hitler?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:31 PM
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Female ideal of masculinity and male ideal of masculinity have just as much in common as male ideal of femininity and female ideal of femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:08 PM
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More like as technology advances there's less and less justification for relying on and basing our actions on gender roles. It is good to think of social administration as a form of social technology. But I am wary of efforts to improve social technology, as well as untrusting of the notion that social technology improves linearly and to infinity like non-social technology. I think that the difference of social technology and non-social technology is quite significant to warrant a completely dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:10 AM
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Equality is related to the direct interests of individuals who are bent on escaping certain inequalities not in their favour, and setting up new inequalities that will be in their favour, this latter being their chief concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 11:21 PM
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I do not think that we can have a discussion about this. You're the Whigish school of linear history progressing slowly to the utopia. I'm of the Spenglerian school of rhythmic rise and fall of different high culture. You basically think that as we progress further, feminism will achieve gender equality and gender roles will be abolished as a remnant of obsolete social technology. Places like TRP are vestiges of reactionary thought, a modern day kulaks who will make themselves obsolete by a fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 09:03 PM
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Do you agree then that it's a disorder. If it needs to be ameliorated with sex reassignment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 05:47 PM
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I like the fact that TBP has a circlejerk about such common things. I mean, TRPers are supposed to "distance" themselves from "radical" TRPers but TBPers welcome their radical and insane and downright stupid members. I mean "herpa derp, there are 2 sexes, gb2 biology class" nevermind that those are genetic aberrations and complete disorders. No enemies to the left they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 04:28 PM
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Feminism's ostensible goal is to eliminate gender inequality, with a focus on the prevalant form of gender inequality, being inequality against women. If unequal gender differences are largely social constructs, then feminism as social movement is a reasonable course to achieving equality. This hinges on the assumption that inequality against women is the prevalent form of gender inequality, as well as that the inequality against women is somehow worse than inequality against men - and apart fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:22 PM
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Now you are flipping it to the other side. You said : If they are social then feminism is justified I said : If they are not, feminism is to be fought against But this ignores the bigger picture. That many of the most important "gender differences" are not inherent, (citation needed) and are in fact socially ingrained. This is objection number one. Objection number two is the assertion that gender roles are something to be fought against. Objection number three is the assertion that feminism is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 12:52 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome XX male syndrome (also called de la Chapelle syndrome, for Albert de la Chapelle, who characterized it in 1972[1][2]) is a rare sex chromosomal disorder. ... This syndrome occurs in approximately four or five in 100,000 individuals, making it less common than Klinefelter syndrome ... Symptoms usually include small testes and subjects are invariably sterile. Individuals with this condition sometimes have feminine characteristics, with varying degrees …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 12:45 PM
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No, their end goal is impossible. Just because you stand for something pointless, and you do your best to reach something impossible doesn't mean that you will not harm people along the way. Which feminism does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 12:40 PM
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I can't take the people who say that there are exceptions to XX and XY that are deserving of their own sex category seriously. Especially since all those abberations are genetic disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 12:31 PM
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There are two sexes. XX and XY are by far the most commonly occuring chromosomes. Yes, XXX, XXY, XYY all occur. They are always equal to the same sex and are bodily deformations caused by chemical imbalances/underdeveloped genitals. People suffering from Klinefelter syndrome (XXY) have deficits in executive functions, and have a degree of languange learning or reading impairment. Triple X chromosome is not necessary to elucidate (since it defaults to women), but it carries an increased risk of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 12:30 PM
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Oh lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:37 AM
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Oh, well that makes sense. It reminds me of not calling the garbage men garbage men, but sanitation officers. Kinda silly that we let such policing of the tone, especially on the net.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 10:45 PM
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As well as the 88 references.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 10:41 PM
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Okay. Point out what exactly is wrong with my logic when you have the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 10:17 PM
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Of course it was. All the good white power puns are taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 10:17 PM
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Is there something wrong with my logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 09:48 PM
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And how exactly do you quantify the market value the work an at home spouse does? We take into the account the real world price of house keeping, child caring, and occasional sex. Your approach is a rather austistic view of a relationship that will end up in nothing but resentment. Of course it is. It's also hugely dickish. I mean, coming home to the person you love and being like "bitch, where's mah dinner" is disgusting to no end. Of course I believe in cleaning after yourself and helping the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:53 PM
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I am looking at the traditional marriage from the perspective of absolute legal and formal fairness, a one size fits all to make sure that everywhere, in any case, people subscribing to this system will be receiving a fair deal. In this case, take X where X is the amount of money and support SAH party receives, and Y where Y is the amount of priced labor SAH party does for the working party. Then we retract X - Y. If X - Y is larger than zero, then there is zero obligation for a working spouse t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 07:01 PM
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The statement men are more logical does not mean that men are without emotions. Men are also heavier on average than women, so does that mean that women are ethereal beings who have no mass?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:45 PM
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Promiscuous women are sluts. Sluts are promiscuous women. A promiscuous man calling promiscuous women sluts is alright, since by definition promiscuous women are sluts. A promiscuous man has every right for putting down (as in not date) a promiscuous woman. A man has every right to have standards which he himself does not qualify for. A man has every right to want a vagina even if he has a dick. And no, men and women are not equal in sexual areas. So yes, condemnation is misplaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:43 PM
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“Hot girls” are not another species of human completely devoid of insecurities and other human emotions. Putting a “hot girl” down because you think she must get complimented all the time, acting aloof and uninterested to attract attention, and being rude or mean because you assume she’s catered to will NOT work. Okay. Now, who exactly tells men to put down hot girls? And I mean like, "dude, tell this hot 11/10 she's stupid". The only thing I can think of is TRP, and TRP only tells men to put do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:33 PM
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Yeah, I know. I only took this one because "Aryan vs. Predator" was taken. So was "Pulls a trigger when sees a nigger".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:06 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:59 PM
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It can be flipped like this, for the at-home spouse there is no guarantee that she will do anything. There is no written contract which says she will do X and Y pertaining to house management. There is also no way to terminate the agreement if she doesn't uphold the standard, that will not result in a man paying alimony to her because of reasons. Hence, she can relax from the tasks and stresses of her job whenever she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:58 PM
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Rationality is a tool. A tool has it's purpose. A person who uses a hammer to write is stupid. When rationality no longer serves you, it should be discarded. Anyway, the point is, if women are more irrational, men can't be much farther ahead. If we believe that genders are different innately, or even that gender differences exist (which we pretty much all do) regardless of how they're formed, you need to prove that this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:55 PM
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Tough luck. The time you put in your labor is not proportional to the profit you should see of it. I use scissors to cut a tree, while the other guy uses a chainsaw - it will take me longer to cut it, and him shorter. It is only fair that he is paid more. But if you're hammering about gender wage gap. We've had this discussion. When you control for all the conditions - it's probably from 5% to 0, and it is largely the result of women's own choices. If it is because of discrimination, well, discr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:29 PM
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That's because TBP, much like the left in general, acts like a parasite, and not a creator. It usurps the preexisting words and morphs them the way they see fit. It's noticeable so that even our leftier friends see it. Racism turns from differentiation based on race to mean differentiation based on race to evil differentiation based on race that only white people are guilty of. And no, I'm not fucking kidding. People already do it. Same thing for sexism. Misogyny turns from conscious irrational …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:24 PM
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So basically : It's true that one party is responsible for putting food on the table and being responsible for maintaining a roof under our heads, and that the other party is responsible for the luxuries (as in not necessity) of doing chores. But it's simply not realistic and fair to burden the other party with the entirety of all chores, when it is realistic and fair to burden the other party with the entire finances. Plus, being a caregiver is a full-time job, but somehow, being a non-paid car…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 01:56 PM
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Intelligence Intelligence is a moot point. Men are more likely to be extra smart. And are more likely to be extra stupid. Women are in the comfortable middle. So we can't use the "women are stupider than men" line without considering what exactly do we mean. I have no reason nor desire to quote differences in IQ. I believe it will come up here if it already didn't. Standard deviations and all that jazz. We can sum it up roughly like this : Smarter men are more numerous than smarter women. Median…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 09:02 PM
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Your detriments are due to reality which is unchangeable. Men's detriments are due to artificial system. System that feminist did well to contribute to. And besides, your "detriments" are nigh harmless when compared to men's. You saying "sigh, we all have out troubles" is a hand-wave away. It's kinda like a slave in ancient Greece complaining to an aristocrat, but then the aristocrat says "Meanwhile, we aristocrats are shamed if we do our own physical lifting. We all have our troubles. Lets not …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:34 PM
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Thank you. I must once again apologize for not being able to respond in my full capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:21 PM
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That still isn't motte and bailey. Red pill is the radical notion that truth isn't always pretty and Women who ride the CC do not have the same capacity to bind with men, they're going to divorce rape you, and blahblahblah, women are like children, blah blah blah Those two statements do not correspond to motte and bailey. Motte and bailey is like bait and switch. Those first statement affirms the second. To have motte and bailey you must not have the first statement (motte) affirm the second sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:19 PM
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I'm going to confess that I did not expect such a strong reply. This debate may be productive, but I'm not currently in position to give you much attention (and for that, I apologize). I will, however, in a couple of days start a new thread regarding this very much issue, so I would ask you to participate in it with the same zeal that you are now discussing with me. Once again, I'm sorry I won't respond to you shortly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:13 PM
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Because TRP is stupid and misogynistic reactionary cesspool. Women aren't teenagers or kids. Women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:11 PM
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That's not Motte and Bailey. Especially since most TRP members admit to having an anger phase. Motte and Bailey is like this : Bailey : As feminists, it is our duty to force men to pay us the difference in gender wage gap, we must assume that every man is a rapist, Duluth model and VAWA are equality, gender quotas are a natural thing to stop "institutionalized oppression", etc Motte : Feminism is the radical notion that women are people Another example : Bailey: Niggers are the worst possible pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 10:06 AM
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the paper Melbourne School of Psychological Sciences, Melbourne Business School, and Centre for Ethical Leadership, University of Melbourne, Carlton, VIC 3053, Australia Department of Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies, Barnard College, Columbia University, New York, NY 10027, USA Department of Social Psychology, Institute of Psychology, University of Bern, Bern, 3012, Switzerland 4 Aston Brain Centre, School of Life and Health Sciences (Psychology), Aston University, Birmingham, B4 7ET, UK …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 09:46 AM
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I'm already in bed on my cell so I'll check your sources tomorrow. Thank you for your time. Also, I wasn't kidding about music.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 12:16 AM
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Elevator music. Okay, I'll be perfectly frank here - I didn't expect any credible and scientific argument for you. I dunno why I bothered. But I will respect your opinion (because that's what it is, opinion which happens to be wrong). So, I'm going to switch the topic. I like listening to music while I study. But I never quite managed to find something appropriate. Something soothing yet bombastic. Mars Volta is too chaotic for me to focus on my thoughts and shoegaze just depresses the shit out …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 12:09 AM
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No. That is bad statistics to a huge degree. There are so many outliers you left out of that it is insane. So basically you are saying that there are too many outliers to form a statistically coherent data. Can you prove that? The radically different econonomies of those two parts of the world is one of the most basic things you would have to account for in order to make it possible to eventually have statistically sound data, but that is not anywhere near all of the factors you need to account …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 11:46 PM
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I have, in fact, proven that matriarchies did exist, and you agreed with me. Therefore, your statement is false. Which statement? The one that all civilizations were patriarchies? I stand by it. You can make a correction that one or two civilizations was in fact a matriarchy, but let's not be too liberal with what we consider a civilization. Pointing out a list of patriarchies adds nothing to this conversation. Yes it does. You list a patriarchy, and compare it to the matriarchy. We will investi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 10:22 PM
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Roman Empire Tacitus noted in his Germania that in "the nations of the Sitones a woman is the ruling sex."[60][g] Now a Roman Emperor said that Germans are ruled by women. This is the only source we have. Let's find out more about Germanic tribes. Once again, wikipedia. All freemen had the right to participate in general assemblies or things, where disputes between freemen were addressed according to customary law. Free women did not have a political station of their own but inherited the rank o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 09:15 PM
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I think our culture encourages men and women to live in slightly separate worlds, with different social rules and expectations. This appears to create/foster hostility towards the gender one is not a member of. Have you ever seen Hjernevask? First episode. The gist is that in patriarchal societies like in Iran or India, there is 70 percent of women in engineering (numbers may vary but percentage is higher). In egalitarian societies like Scandinavian ones, there is 10 percent. Basically, if the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 08:30 PM
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Patriarchy is a social system in which: males hold primary power; males predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property; and, in the domain of the family, fathers or father-figures hold authority over women and children. Straight from the Wiki. Those (not so) rare instances where a woman gets in charge like Queen Victoria or Tsarina Katarina or Maria Therese change little. In fact, Queen Victoria was pretty ardent opponent of women's rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 08:21 PM
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I don't care for pudding. Oh wow. I mean wow. A person who doesn't like pudding. outsize reaction to one joking comment Hey, I do understand not giving a shit about internet debates. Frankly, I support this. But please don't make comments if you didn't watch at least one episode. Shitposting has its own special circle in Hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:52 PM
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Oh, okay. I meant to say that I perceived that you implied that only men slut shame. I might have made a mistake. Sorry about that. But, I want your honest opinion. Who do you think slut shames more - men or women? And is the reason cultural or biological? Perhaps both?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:51 PM
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That is money. That's what I said I don't care about. Why would I need a house for if I got single again? So basically, you're okay with feminists twisting marriage to give access to a man's property to women without any pardon, and you're okay with this being abused to black mail men en masse because you don't care about money? That is totally self defeating. Kinda like the guy who got conquered and then apologizes for his conquerors. I mean, sure the alien reptiles from Tau Ceti V raped, kille…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:47 PM
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It is not a call for moderation. It is showing that the other side is insane and extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:38 PM
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These days, we have guns. Irrelevant. Russian Empire and Holy Roman Empire had guns too and they lost it big time against Napoleon. And they even outnumbered him. If guns also disappeared from the world, women would be taking off on their own and developing muscles and strength and their own enclaves. That's not how evolution works. That's how Pokemon work. You don't just magically grow same amount of muscle and strength it took men millions of years of evolution to achieve. Not under patriarchy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:36 PM
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But what is the difference then? Only money. Let me put it this way. You risk half your shit, you risk losing custody of your child, you risk false abuse charges, you risk everything. You give a woman control over you. It isn't money - it is half of your life. Of course this is huge motte and bailey argument. Marriage can work. But not Feminist Marriage. Marriage as you mentioned as a ride of passage was a traditional non-feminist marriage - no alimony, no cheating, no no-fault divorce and rigid…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:29 PM
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that's ridiculous and just outs you as having an issue with women that loser men can reform but not loser women. does any part of you realize that makes no sense? Nope. It makes perfect sense. A man can up his count at any time. A woman cannot decrease her count. It is physically impossible. You are operating under biased idea that women and men are equal. They are not. past partner count only matters if you stay the same, maintain the same smv. Nope. Past partner count stays forever. You can tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:24 PM
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i postulate that high partner count females and incels are equal in having a low smv. Their SMV is equal. SMV of an incel can be increased. SMV of a slut cannot. but that's not true there are men with far higher smv than you that might have had less partners because they prefer relationships and go from dating one high smv female to another. Yes. But the question is of only SMV function relating to a partner count. A man can increase his partner count. A woman cannot decrease her partner count. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:55 PM
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Very well then. But I would ask you to refrain from further commenting if you only say "TRP IS STUPID" with multiple variations of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:50 PM
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http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/gpr/6/2/166/ The view that men suppress female sexuality received hardly any support and is flatly contradicted by some findings. Instead, the evidence favors the view that women have worked to stifle each other's sexuality because sex is a limited resource that women use to negotiate with men, and scarcity gives women an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:49 PM
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Fine. Let's go with actual research and statistics. The view that men suppress female sexuality received hardly any support and is flatly contradicted by some findings. Instead, the evidence favors the view that women have worked to stifle each other's sexuality because sex is a limited resource that women use to negotiate with men, and scarcity gives women an advantage. Oh would you look at that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:48 PM
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I have a friend who's a Nazi. No really, he's a Nazi. He never killed any Jews. Does that mean that Holocaust is a fabrication? Now, let's see actual research done on this : "Sex is coveted by men,” she said. “Accordingly, women limit access as a way of maintaining advantage in the negotiation of this resource. Women who make sex too readily available compromise the power-holding position of the group, which is why many women are particularly intolerant of women who are, or seem to be, promiscuo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:45 PM
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If this is true then why do gay male couples have more sex than heterosexual couples and heterosexual couples have more sex than lesbian couples? You can spin a joking tone, it still won't make it right. Or is there some special component of inequality between heterosexual couples that is absent in homosexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:38 PM
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I personally dislike non-english documentaries with subtitles. Oh my, a fellow free thinker. Despite being non-english speaking native, not hearing english language in movies is hell of odd. Strangely, I can take Japanese just fine. I may watch some of them due to interest at some point, but most of the time I have better things to watch on my second screen. I'll watch the gay/straight one right now though, since it is relevant to me personally. I thank you for you time and honesty. I would also…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:36 PM
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Then refrain from commenting. It happens often that I have serious IRL business that reminds me that bitching online over some stuff that happens in countries far far away from me is irrelevant to my studies and work - which unlike bitching on the net puts food on my table. In those rare instances, I refrain from posting and/or make it known that I am not knowledgeable about the issue at hand. It is here for you pleasure. 40 minutes is not a long time. You can whip yourself a pudding and watch i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:25 PM
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Oh fuck... I meant evolutionary psychology. Evolutionary biology, and psychology is the means evobiology AND psychology. Evolutionary biology and psychology to mean evolutionary biology AND evolutionary psychology. That's at least how it works in my language. But still, I do not think psychology is to be discarded. If anything, it should be differentiated from social sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:22 PM
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understandable as it's clear the content confirms their beliefs even without watching it. You have no grounds on which you can assert that red pillers didn't watch it. I watched it, mods watched it, AND HELL IT'S THE FUCKING SIDEBAR. But, it makes no difference. I asked you, the non-redpillers to take 40 minutes out of your life to watch only the first episode. I do not care about TRP's side. If you cannot at least watch it, then please refrain from commenting. It is rude to say "MAN, YOU KNOW W…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:20 PM
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Stability can come without marriage. Settled family life also. A nice house, kids, dog, smoking that pipe in front of the fireplace while wifey is baking a cake (it seems to me that you're one of those shitlords who want to chain women in traditional gender roles which are like the love child of Hitler and Stalin, raised by ISIS). And lol, it is nice to thank your parents with a wedding party? Seriously brah?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:15 PM
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Note that this kind of argument works only if I am the one leaving her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:28 AM
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Hjernevask is side bar on TRP...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:18 AM
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I have no intention or desire to prohibit a career and financial independence her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:12 AM
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Oh lol. This isn't male solipsism, this is "Denswend solipsism" at best. And this is beyond the point as OP's topic is about how men can protect themselves against cheating. An inane and stupid topic, on this I agree. And now, repeat after me: MARRIAGE IS NOT A NECESSARY COMPONENT OF SPENDING YOUR WHOLE LIFE CLOSE TO THE SAME PERSON. YOU DO NOT NEED TO GET MARRIED TO LOVE SOMEONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 11:38 PM
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Okay, sorry if I wasn't clear. So here we have someone saying something that is not true. Women are not like teenagers but are like people. This implies that teenagers are not people - and this is something that is dehumanizing in the fullest meaning of the word. But, it turns out that the person who said such inflammatory statement meant something different altogether, and something that is pretty much a self evident truth. This greatly reminds me of AWALT. An inflammatory statement that is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:38 PM
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WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU MARRY IN THE FIRST PLACE?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:33 PM
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All I know is that TRP is miles better than feminism to instill in young men. Exhibit A. Exhibit B.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:57 PM
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An interesting thing, saying "women are not like teenagers, they're people" is not remotely offensive or condescending to teenagers, and in fact contains hidden "wisdom" that is packed in crude language with which we all agree once it is "unpacked".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:54 PM
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Should we flip it and say the following : "If they are inborn then feminism is to be fought against"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:03 PM
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You postulate that women and men are equal, despite our current debate where you find differences easily. i feel like both those terms are negative, but sluts is more negative, which is unfair because they are equal. I do not have any hatred at women who have sex. I like sluts. Some of sluts I met have been the nicest and friendliest gals. Women and men both use it as an insult, yes. Slut has a certain history the term "incel" doesn't. Chalk it up to historical oddity. Yet, I have no reason to u…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:02 PM
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but there should be no animosity towards this type of women. Certainly. Anger or hate at them is pointless. A resigned amusement of tragedy of their existence, yes. But there also shouldn't be any encouragement to commit to them. If a person can advise against commiting to them, then he should do this - as a moral obligation. if so, it's not unfair for male incels, low partner count males, to end up with high partner count females. It is not unfair, of course not. But it is unfair to force male …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 08:14 PM
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That's actually a pretty good viewpoint. If you don't mind, I would like to expand it further : High rate of sluts may be the result of women chasing the alpha alpha men who actually don't give a fuck about them except for sex - the Pareto principle at work. Again, the assertion "women would rather share an alpha than have a beta" rings in my mind. Still, women fought for that right, and they should suffer the consequences. In a way, what you postulate - that "plating" is "abusive" since women n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 07:37 PM
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The person who said that teenagers are not people has "unmedicated" as her flair. I think that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:39 PM
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that's just what the evidence i've seen (studies i've read) has led me to believe. Oh, I must certainly agree with you. They desire commitment above physical sex. is she at fault for being delusional? yes, but so are the men that used her (at least if they knew she wanted a relationship). They hold no obligation to treat people to higher standards than they deserve. Besides, consent is an important component of slutting it up - a woman does not slut it up without desiring it first. I have no sym…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:38 PM
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Why would you believe that? Sounds like you believe such a thing purely to rationalize your cognitive dissonance. You misunderstand. Cognitive dissonance comes when you hold two contradictory statements. Rationalization comes after there is cognitive dissonance. TRP is based on the fact that women and men are not equal in sexual standards, preferences, selections, strategies, and desires. Hence, there is no cognitive dissonance. Now, why would you believe such a thing. Because the opposite - tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:31 PM
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so taking advantage of delusional people is not abusive? From wiki : A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.[1] As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception. From what OP said : If a plate wants LTR, drop her for her own good You believe in preprogramming for commitment among women. If that is true, then why is there casual sex culture? Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 11:03 PM
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Women are not like teenagers, they're people. ... Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:30 PM
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define practical? that's a broad term that could mean anything. Practical? Well, he does not say that you should be a dick for a dick's (hehe) sake, nor should you be a dick just because you can. Being known for dickish behaviour (or if you prefer the game theory, defective behavior) is a good way of getting the boot in a cooperative society (some restrictions may apply) and at least tarnishes your reputation. In some cases, it's a good way to get rape charges and physical abuse charges against …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:27 PM
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but if "leave people better off than you found them" becomes a red pill core belief, or simply a common unofficially stated belief, it will definitely be a different trp than i'm familiar with. I'm afraid that your belief in a tolerant TRP is misplaced. No, the guy told people to leave them better off than you found them purely out of practical reasons - if one doesn't need to be a dick, then one shouldn't be a dick. the problem with the OP's ethical logic is that most women want to be in relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:44 PM
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it's a sign that as a growing group, democracy will likely change things. dark triad types are such a small percentage of the population that the bigger red pill gets, the nicer it will likely become. the whole fuck married chicks posts are not being received well of late. the mods will have to adjust to that reality or /r/theredpill will splinter (which frankly isn't that abnormal of any growing group). It's kinda interesting to me that you see the effect which entryism and populism have on peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 09:15 PM
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Hold on. He says "many red pillers won't get it". Yet he is the top most upvoted there - and do you think a upvote of mass scale like this (what, like 500?) is a sign of hims losing that label? Many red pillers who don't get it may be bad people who don't want to get it - and I told you about this specifically, it is pure statistical reality that within ANY movement, there will be people who abuse the power. The difference is in degree of power they hold, the degree of power they want to hold - …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:33 PM
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Yeah, the analogy in English is really stupid. In my language it translates to having both the sheep and money (of course it rhymes so it is easily said). That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:30 PM
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There is no cognitive dissonance, because everything can be explained away with broscience/confirmation bias. Cognitive dissonance only exists when there are two contradictory beliefs. For example : 1) Women sleeping around during youth and then getting married is wrong 2) Men sleeping around during youth and getting married is not wrong You will notice that these two things are not contradictory. They are only contradictory if you have the same criteria for men as you have for women. If you do …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:29 PM
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And the only guys who would give her enough patience are beta and therefore she doesn't respect/want them. Don't abuse your power. If a plate gets too attached like that and I don't want a relationship from her, IMO, that's a sign to drop her. For her own good. Fucking her up in the head and keeping her on the hook just to get a few more goes at the pussy ain't fair on the girl when new pussy can be had so easily. IMO, OP, you let Lisa go if she's that interchangeable with other hoes, or you LTR…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:16 PM
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A rather dissapointing end, but given your demonstration of mental (in)ability, not entirerly unexpected one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 12:14 AM
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No, you don't. You just repeat what you've been told, and when someone challenges you turn you simply repeat louder. Your attemp at attaining intellectual and moral high ground would be amusing, if it weren't so pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 12:03 AM
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You have not given me one argument that wasn't ad hominem or some insanity that is easily picked apart, and your posts reek of hypocrisy so common for so called liberals. Ultimately , neither of us learned anything. I should commend whoever indoctrinated you and pray that you never feel the consequences of the things you support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 11:45 PM
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That's good to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:53 PM
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Well, have about you, how would you rate my arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:41 PM
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It isn't getting over a bad relationship. It is a shift in paradigm. Red pill outlook denies the existence of romance, it reduces love to biology - a woman loves you as long as her subconscious primal mechanisms find a suitable mate, while conscious love is rationalization of primal instincts. In this way, a sort of Schopenhaurian outlook, the raw and animalistic Will enslaves Reason to work for it. This is why biological reductionism, and the way red pill does stuff - find the most true general…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:41 PM
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That's actually a pretty good outlook. Old people, people over the age of 65 who have low pensions (actually, the pension needed for free public transport is equal to average pay in my country) get free public transport.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 03:36 PM
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PART TWO: So I want to be absolutely clear on something: I don't give a flying fuck about the statistics. It could so happen that 90% of black people have violent personalities, and I'd still give them the benefit of the doubt for the sake of the remaining 10%, because those 10% deserve it. It's their right. That's the equality part. The benefit of the doubt. Okay. Do you now see who is the bad guy here? Who would rather sacrifice the prosperity and well being of people to sate those violent and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:34 PM
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PART ONE: I have a confession to make. Up until this point I haven't been taking you particularly seriously beyond trollishly indulging you with a lot of rhetoric that doesn't actually address the issues. I'm sure you'll agree. But now, I'm intrigued, because comment is leagues more thoughtful than your other ones, and you did it without calling me an idiot. You know what though? It makes me uncomfortable that you didn't call me an idiot. Of course it makes you uncomfortable. The arguments I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:33 PM
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In my country there is a custom to let someone older sit on your seat in a public transit. Naturally, since this is a post-socialist country, there exists a good portion of old people who feel not only entitled to your everything, but that you should feel thankful for letting such parasites sit on your seat and take from your wallet working your ass till you're 80 and those fuckers going in retirement in their early 50s. On the other side, there are some genuinely good people, and some genuinely…
/r/TheRedPill14/01/15 11:37 PM
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The only reason to have anger is to achieve catharsis of the spirit necessary for shifting your paradigm. Anger is optional. At the end of your catharsis you should expel your anger and not have it fester. There are groups who let their anger born of entitlement fester and bubble until it becomes their primary imperative, and those groups function only as perpetual imaginary victims, and who use their victimhood to persuade others to do their bidding. Men, straight, white, cis, men - especially …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:27 PM
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You know, you've raised some important issues about democracies around the world and throughout history. That shit keeps me up at night Okay, I'm glad it got to you. Democracies can be just as irrational and just as bad and just as horrible as fascist and communist countries. I am not also without some sympathy for democracy - I do recognize the merit of it. Democracy is indeed a system for the functional tuning of government, operating through electoral feedback, and predictably enhancing its s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 08:31 PM
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To consider patriarchy a crude and overt conspiracy of men, a sort of real boys club with real men of flesh and blood, a touchable conspiracy, a sort of anti-woman version of permanent Ides of March is to do the concept of it a disservice. No, the patriarchy is a set of intangible, and abstract, set of socio-cultural norms which permeate entirety of Western society, the ones which put all men and women in crude rigid gender roles. The patriarchy acts in synergy with biological reality, and suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:22 AM
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I'm conflicted. Does he know I'm trolling and is counter trolling or is he really convinced I'm a feminist? I must explore further!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:10 AM
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Normally I'm always tempted to use it as a slur against someone who's not actually a fascist. And this shows your bias. You don't have anything against fascism that isn't "b..but they kill people who disagree with them, it's in authoritarianism". Then I demonstrate to you that original democracy killed people for disagreeing with it, origin of modern democracy killed people for disagreeing with it, and largest and most consistent democracy invades non-democracies for profit. And then you shift t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:10 AM
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just because discrimination can be overcome does not mean society should tolerate it. it's inefficient to have any flawed/bias thinking in your society. You are still thinking that discrimination = flawed/biased thinking. Differentiation between what is "good" and "bad" requires discrimination.Two contrary developments now present themselves. Firstly, there is a sublimation or sophistication of discrimination, which might be called cultivation. Abstract concepts, modes of expression, artworks, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:06 PM
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the problem with your examples is you assume pure merit is how people find/hold, and perform in their positions. This may be false in a fascist society. This may be false in a communist society. This may be false in aristocratic society. But this is, most definitely right assumption in a capitalist society, one that is free from politics - an anarcho liberal one, if I may use Victoria 2. In such a society, refusing to hire minorities/women because of irrational prejudices while minorities and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:39 PM
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If I go by your standards - "someone that's sexist doesn't have the mental ability nor emotional stability to be in a position of authority", I am in this case someone of mental ability and emotional stability. If I am someone of mental ability and emotional stability, I can correctly gauge your prowess as an accountant. In your story, I think that you are a good accountant, so therefore you are a good accountant. But, it turns out that you steal from me. It shows that you're a criminal. But, mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:23 PM
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i don't think someone that's sexist has the mental ability, emotional stability to be in an authority position over the target of their bias. Okay, so basically you do not believe that sexism as "prejudice against people of other sex while in a position of power" is possible. Since by your definition, the mental ability and emotional instability would result in that person being kicked out. So you basically say that it is impossible for people in STEM fields - or similar highly intellectually de…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:11 PM
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You don't even know the meaning of indignance until you understand my indignance. Your indignance is an indignance of a spoiled child who cannot form a coherent position to defend it, and all it can think of is "fascism!fascism!freedom of speech as long as it is not hate speech!". It is indignance born of stupidity clinging to false arguments. None of what you've written here makes a lick of sense. Now that is incredibly pathetic. You are accussing me of now making sense (lol, and it is only bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:07 PM
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I'm more for discrimination, because people should have freedom of association. Discrimination is a necessary component of freedom of association. I do not think that a person who gives up because on physics because her physics professor was "sexist" would have mental capacity and emotional stability needed for the actual science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:53 PM
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Now, I don't think that you understand things. It is true that the "77 cents" thing is false. Sure, we give this to a closer scrutiny, and we show that in similar careers for similar work hours, the gap dissapears or turns minimal (like 2-5 percent) or even turns in favour to women. Sure, it shows that the main reason for this raw gender wage gape is women's overrepresentation in lower paying areas and underrepresentation in higher paying areas. But do we ask why this is so? Why do women gravita…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:50 PM
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This topic is kinda stupid and let me tell you why. You've got the Mainstream Outer Party which represents the "right wing" (Republicans), and you've got Mainstream Inner Party which represents the left wing (Democrats). Occasionally, the two change places, but this is irrelevant. The relevant stuff is that the Inner Party dictates the term of discourse by censoring what the other party can say, and how they are perceived. Inner Party thus gets a monopoly on the Overton Window. You won't see any…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:42 PM
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Men out-pace women in STEM representation, and in actual sciences. should this be equal? what methods should be implemented to make this equal? Women earn 77 percent of what men do. are men getting an unfair advantages by employers, or are women just inferior workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:49 PM
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No, it's you who doesn't see the the bigger picture. You only see it selectively. You somehow think that democracies are without the "criticize the system get canned" stuff. Honestly, how can someone be so ignorant of history is beyond me. The ironic thing? In the open democratic republics I've taken a liking to, you are free to speak your mind. The ironic thing? No, you're fucking not. The Reign of Terror: (5 September 1793 – 28 July 1794),[1] also known as The Terror (French: la Terreur), was …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:45 PM
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Your "progressivism" is authoritarianism. If you think that NRx is authoritarianism, then we have authoritarianism vs. authoritarianism, so your point is moot. Your extreme position "them fascist/reactionaries will kill meeh because they kill and are bad people and this is inherent in their ideology :(" has no basis in reality. If mass murder is inherent in every form of authoritarianism, why did Roman Empire had Pax Romana where Roman Republic conquered much of the known world?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:23 AM
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Oh boy, way to live up to your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:20 AM
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Women who understand and believe RP would override their physical attraction to alphas and find a good 20% alpha/ 80% beta hybrid instead. Just look to RPW for evidence of this. Women would also work to keep their N count as low as possible, ruling out casual sex. True alphas would end up either committing rape, suicide, or learning beta traits to get sex. BINGO!!! You've managed to convey what I was trying to explain in a few words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:16 PM
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Wingman definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:57 PM
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Foreword: since OP had not specified conditions of entire world taking red pill, I will put following assumptions : everyone took RP instantly, and by everyone I mean both men and women, and the RP is the RP, not BP perceived RP. Feminist sexual revolution is response to traditional and regulated sex market. TRP is sexual revolution for men as a response to feminist sexual revolution. RPW is sexual revolution for women as a response to TRP. Both TRP and RPW agree on the fact that men and women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:56 PM
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He ain't waking up. He's a rationalist looking at this rationally. Throughout the article his research is in-depth, his facts all check out, and his logic is impeccable. But, at the conclusion, due to peer pressure or God knows what disorder, he short-circuits and says "I'm still 97 percent for". I find that kind of dishonesty disgusting. It's an honest waste of brain power trying to rationalize feminism. Alternative is something that others have proposed, that he's a neoreactionary masquerading…
/r/TheRedPill12/01/15 06:26 PM
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Feminism is a lot like Inquisition, the Devil being Patriarchy. Inquisition may torture you, and maim you, but see, Inquisition is not "evil", since by definition "evil" is caused by the Devil! So you should give more power to the Inquisition so that your torture, as necessary as it is, stops! Never does it cross the mind of common believer that the Devil hides best behind a smiling face of zealous and self-righteous preacher. This is highly relevant.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/15 05:51 PM
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They use the same arguments. Go ahead, dispute me that Germans used "Jews are overrepresented in X so they are oppressing us Germans" argument. And dispute me that feminist don't use "men are overrepresented in X so they are oppressing us women". You're being dense on purpose, putting "HERP FEMINISTS WANT TO GAS ALL MEN" in my mouth, when I'm not saying that at all. I even said that feminist wouldn't literally gas all men, they need them too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 03:43 PM
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And why does this principle follow? Because Jews "oppress" native Germans by manners which I have listed. No Jewish oppression, no Jewish extermination. This is why they wanted to exterminate Jews, instead of Bavarians - despite them both being culturally German.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 12:32 PM
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You forgot the lifting. Never forget the lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:32 AM
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However, using eventual commitment as a bargaining chip to get what you want is as low down and dirty as the women who use sex to maintain control over men. Good. I want you to realize as long as the woman's body in relationship/marriage is only hers to distribute, a man's attention in a relationship/marriage is only his to distribute. It does not matter if both of them are shitty. True, both of them are shitty. But just like a woman should own her body, a man should own her attention. Me not ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:30 AM
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If your ideology were to be realized in my country, I would be sent to the gallows. Why? What is your country, and why would you be sent to gallows? I'm not looking at the thing from your perspective because you haven't shared it yet. So what's your position in your country?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:15 AM
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And what principle is that? If closely examine both ideologies, you'll find that both of them find "oppressors" due to same reasons. Consider the following, we are told that disproportionate representation of men in STEM and lack of women in STEM is due to discrimination of women, and not due to their personal choices divorced from any "perceived discrimination". We're told about that for a lot of areas, mostly high paying ones. Feminism goes by the dogma (because it is never challenged) that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:11 AM
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Likewise. Let's just call it truce and be done with this. It's taxing on my mind to think that I might have not responded to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 10:02 PM
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The gal I was responding to said that she cuts her hair to chin length. I like that kind of hairstyle. But shorter than that is pretty much hard to achieve, even though I know a girl who could do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:45 PM
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A criminal is assumed to have violated someone else's rights, and therefore has forfeited some of his own Has nothing to do with what you said. "But equality is simply the self-evident truth that all of human beings are entitled and subject to the same rights and duties."Point still stands. Now you rationalize it "unless he does X then he doesn't". But then let's go even more in detail. Does a doctor has a same rights and duties like his patient? Clearly not! Existence of nations proves your ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:43 PM
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Je suis Charlie Martel Fixed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:09 PM
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Then by all means go about your day. May Thor guide your cock whenever you need him. Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:15 PM
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So basically you show up in his thread, say, this guy is cray cray because he holds some crazy crime think, then go about your day. ATrue, this is not ad hominem. My mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:09 PM
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No, this is pretty much ad hominem. His arguments and are not valid because X, but because he's a shitty person who doesn't believe in marriage rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:04 PM
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You can hate it all you want. But equality is simply the self-evident truth that all of human beings are entitled and subject to the same rights and duties. Specifically what those rights and duties are, is perhaps a matter of debate. You can assert that something is self evident truth all you want, it won't make it true. You can assert that Earth is flat is self evident truth, it still won't make it so. All it takes to prove you wrong is to show you one person who disproves you. Human beings ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:02 PM
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Difference is that all those people perform criminal action. TRP methods are not criminal actions. Even TRP methods, including dread game with plates, are not even morally wrong. Holding frame is not morally wrong. Not caving to women is not morally wrong. Captain and first mate dynamic is not morally wrong. "Mistreatment" by dread game is no more of a mistreatment than a woman refusing to have sex - if she owns her body and I am not entitled to sex, then I do to own my body and do not offer her…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:49 PM
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French Revolution is irrelevant Nope. French Revolution was actually pretty hard and bloody. People who opposed it were reactionaries. There were reactionaries in Hitler's Germany, and they hated fascists. I think it's safe to say that the fascists would have liked some things about the French Revolution, and disliked other things about it Nope. Hitler and folks had actually pretty negative thoughts about aristocrats. Sounds like you pick your rulers the same way the fascists do. Nope. A fascist…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:38 PM
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I bet he's racist as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:08 PM
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Just the shorter hair alone is enough to.make a RP man shit himself in a fit of anger. Ah yes, the short hair on women, my dreaded nemesis. It ranks just slightly below granting women right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 07:02 PM
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You know the stuff about French Revolution? The "Spring of Nations" stuff? Folks who battled against it were "reactionaries". Folks who battled for it were "revolutionaries" or as you would call them today - "progressives". The rallying cry of French Revolution was "liberte, egalite, fraternite" and the end game was full on nationalism. Fast forward and there is another "revolution" against nationalism, more specifically against the bourgeois caste that in absence of true aristocrats naturally d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 05:13 PM
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It's a sad state of my political affiliation. Always, and I do mean always, I get confused with a fascist. I'm most definitely not that liberal and progressive. Sure, it's a movement that has a lot of potential, and all that jazz. But still, too liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:38 PM
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cry divorce rape Lol. I think that you're basically making me in your mind, a hyperbolic exaggeration of who I am, so that you do not have to "sully" yourself by arguing with me. Kinda like "I'm so outraged that this cishitslord does believe stare rape is real so I won't even". That's pathetic. You should go back to TBP, they eat this shit up. But argue against this : But feminists who are irrational, biased, prejudiced, illogical are not the small minority. Most feminists fall under category of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:12 PM
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Have I said anything else? The problem with Christianity and WBC is that WBC is a huge minority, and not entirely representative of it. For that reason, Catholicism has the Pope and his seemingly irrational dogma of papal infallibility - he basically comes out when there's a question of what is and what isn't Catholicism, and essentially shuts it up. But feminists who are irrational, biased, prejudiced, illogical are not the small minority. Most feminists fall under category of those people, esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 01:23 PM
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The one feminism which guarantees freedom with caveat that it is limited by freedom of others is an admirable cause. The other feminism which implicitly seeks to extend privileges to the undeserving while trying hard to limit freedom of others is something revolting. The latter feminism is gender quotas, the "employer can't ask you if you plan on having a baby", the "it's her body, but birth control must come from budget of everybody", the alimony and divorce rape laws, the constant shitting fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 12:16 PM
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No, they ban pretty easily. I got banned for posting stuff about Roterham Rape scandal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 11:44 PM
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most extreme RPers :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:40 PM
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Fuck : Every reasonably hot woman. I would need pictures. From debate, it would be cuittler and perly9. Marry : Lel. KillVernichtung durch Arbeit: All female BPers for being feminist. All male BPers for being feminist. All gender-neutral BPers for obvious reasons. All male RPers indulging in plate spinning for degeneracy. Of course, I'm actually joking about the kill part. A dead human being is useless. A live human being can be used as cannon fodder in my glorious Wehrmacht. EDIT : Oh yea, taib…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:38 PM
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most likely to become fascist European overlord Oh please, I'm not nearly that liberal and progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:18 PM
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It's actually a simple thing if you bear in mind cause and effect. What makes society run good is tradition, and proper tradition. Proper tradition makes or breaks a civilization. The things that RP knows as BP male behaviour, are extremely good for a cooperative society. Sadly, women don't like it. So civilization lends in a hand and makes BP male strategy the best strategy for getting women, either by constraining female sexuality or by other means. So because things work so well for tradition…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 08:06 PM
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So, again, extracting DNA from people for legal purposes is serious business and not at all routine or easy. Fair point. Note that this is my "ideal", so not real laws. Of course that DNA extraction can be abused, and is an extreme violation of privacy. "Abortion abortion" = no child is ever born, the would-be mother took responsibility for her behaviour and prevented it, no problems. "Financial abortion" = child abandoned by his/her father. Financial abortion = foetus abandoned by its father. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 05:03 PM
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In traditional societies, women's duties ("oppression") are offset by their privileges. Men's duties are offset by their privileges. Feminism is a strategy to minimize women's duties while maximizing their privileges, a side effect of which is the maximization of men's duties while minimization of male privileges. Any society which lets feminism progress further is gynocentric.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 02:32 PM
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Read this. Feminism is like the Inquisition, while Patriarchy is the Devil. Sure, they're gonna torture you (straight white male), but it's not "evil". See, evil is caused by the Devil, and Inquisition fights the devil. So if you want to stop torture, you should empower Inquisition more. There is no compromise with feminism, any more than there is a compromise with a parasite. What may be good for tapeworm may not necessarily be good for the dog in whose bowels it resides. Indeed, the single wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 02:11 PM
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he may like sub girls for the long term, whilst liking sluts for the short Bingo! A woman may like beta guys for long term, and alphas for some mindless fun. I have no moral judgement on AF/BB strategy. Ditto for this. If it flies, and both parties are happy, then by all means do so! If AF guys are not happy, tell these abusive bastards that women owe them no attention any more than they owe them their bodies - and they don't owe them their bodies. If BB guys are not happy, tell these entitled s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 02:07 PM
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I can't imagine it being perfectly acceptable to compel a man not involved in any crime to give DNA. Our opinions on this matter then differ. You said earlier : In some states in the U.S., single mothers are forced to name their child's father in order to receive welfare So I did quick google on forced paternity tests. In many states, an action for determining paternity is actually considered to be a civil lawsuit. In such claims, a court will often order the alleged father to submit to a patern…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 01:10 PM
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Yes. Watch what they do and not what they say. If a guy says he likes chaste, submissive girls then goes around chasing easy sluts chances are that he does not really like chaste submissive girls. This is why TRP as a sexual strategy for getting women is male only, and this is why RPW as sexual strategy for getting men is women only. The difference in goals and means (TRP being Machiavellian while RPW being altruistic) is due to innate differences in both genders. Can you apply gender neutral ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:38 PM
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No... Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:07 PM
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Abortion isn't necessarily covered by public health care I was going on from assumption that they should be. And they should. They're not forced to give DNA samples though. Okay. Your original statement was "I don't see how a grown man can be compelled to give a sample of his DNA against his will". How do they get DNA samples from suspects? male abortion Abandoning the child you do not want is not as bad as killing the child you do not want. It has everything to do with compelling BOTH parents t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:06 PM
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I really really do recommend reading it. It's one of articles I bookmarked and put in my special folder. Are you inferring that the people wanting to do these studies were ostracized by the scientific community? Yep. Just look at Watson fiasco. What kind of offensive tweets were people jailed over? This for example, was back from a while ago. I also have a list of this kind of things (UK,France,Germany) which I will try to locate as soon as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:01 PM
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It's a convenient way to social ostracize people who notice stuff. It's only going to grow more and more pervasive. For example consider the following : For the most part, I am a hard-core defender of freedom of speech and science. But research on race and intelligence—no matter what its conclusions are—seems to me to have no redeeming value. Far from it. The claims of researchers like Murray, Herrnstein and Richwine could easily become self-fulfilling, by bolstering the confirmation bias of rac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 10:46 PM
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And what if there is no other variables? You said that crime correlates with poverty, instead of race. I corrected you. Now you want to find variables other than poverty and race. Unless you can find fault in the original study I gave you, my point stands. The source may be biased, but facts are not. Increases in diversity correlate with problems worldwide, and the downsides of diversity effect everyone, it's a universal human problem: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/the-downsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 09:48 PM
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you really think a white separatist organization is a good source for info? I never did get this kind of argument. Suppose someone has good info that X sucks backed with facts and statistics. He happens to be anti-X. Is he anti-X because he has good facts that X sucks, or does X suck because he is anti-X is something we can easily scrutinize! Are the facts good, statistics sound? If yes, then he has a valid reason to be anti-X. Consider white separatism. If it is true that crime correlates with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 09:22 PM
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it's cynical of academia when the research contradicts trp and pro academia when the research seems to affirm trp. Provide examples. There was one thread on TBP about a guy who took one evo psych course and attempted to debunk TRP. He ended up saying exactly everything like TRP, without the lingo. And it is not up to you to judge if TRP is or is not pragmatic. If TRP methods work, TRP is pragmatic. why do you think trp is so fond of terms like the dark enlightenment and cave man game? There is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 09:02 PM
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EDIT 2: I interpret your interpretation of that "disclaimer" as "covering" up for earlier as absence of higher mental faculties.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:39 PM
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Who's Anders? EDIT : This guy? I didn't play DA2. Never got into DA. I might try it after the semester is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:23 PM
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TRP is a sexual strategy. All the stuff it says, like Laws of Power or Captain/First Mate dynamic, is byproduct of it. Imagine for one second, that women were somehow magically and biologically attracted to people who are nice and placating. Then TRP would be filled with people discussing new strategies of being nice and altruistic. Laws of power would be replaced with laws of nice. But sadly, it is not so. It turns out, when you shelve all the PC feminist bullshit, that women are into some real…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:22 PM
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Yes. But feminism having power is not good for me. So I will not support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:19 PM
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The guy in your first post is being satirical on purpose. For example, the same person says : Hi. I am Archwinger. I am an endorsed contributor at r/TheRedPill. All women everywhere are stupid cunts, with no exceptions. This is representative of the entire manosphere. We all hate women because they're stupid and inferior. Please cite this throughout reddit. Just because it rustles your jimmies. Hell there's an EC dude out that is racist as hell who doesn't even identify as that any longer. LOL. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:12 PM
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I don't think this The most you've seen on me is shitting on feminism and abusive women. But as I've said, your feminized (as in derived from feminism, not women) thought process automatically links it to hatred of all women. I've been called out before for being EC on RP, but post that made me EC is the one in which I praise a woman's nature.Just a quirk, posts that got me points (the number thingy next to names) are not necessarily those that make you EC. If you want, but please don't make me …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 08:06 PM
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If one parent has full custody, does the other have to pay child support? Yes. That just comes with living in a cooperative society. Health care is a necessity and if you live in a country with public health care, it's something that society has decided everyone has a right to. MY POINT EXACTLY. No reason to exclude a paternity test. But making a paternity test saves a person from going to have a mental anguish of calling the person he loves a cheater, and the alternative of forever not knowing.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:23 PM
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I am not racially insecure. You will find that my position is secure because reality confirms it. And I don't think I'll be needing good luck. You'll need it more, especially when your beliefs come in direct contact with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 02:49 PM
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For someone obsessively writing out long tracts of nonsense (I think it just feeds your ego and nothing more) you have an extremely lazy worldview. Eh, writing long posts on the internet, when I end up being shat on by people who think paternity test = child killing, is not that nutritious to my ego. The sheer fact that I am here, with people who are hostile to me and my beliefs is a testament that I don't care much for you ego. My lazy world view is a fact that I want only the bare minimum, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 02:25 PM
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And we can add racism now to things that the redpill endorses? Nope. I am not redpill. But I was answering to your ridiculous idea that social progress is good for the people. That if we tolerate other people the other people will tolerate us instead. It is wrong. But pray tell me, why is racism so bad to evoke such a trigger reflex of immediately shutting out any discussion? Is the systemic rape and abuse of 1,400 girls under the silent approval of anti-racism worse? Or do you think that those …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:39 PM
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I commented on this in another post, but the same point was made here, so I'm going to do this again. TRP (rightfully) loves its endprsed contributors, so this may well earn me downvotes, but I'd like for this to be read even if the post hits -5. Oh don't worry. There is something ironic about the fact that communities of toxic misogynist and mouthbreathing Machiavellis that dream of Silicon Reich are more tolerant than their progressive counterparts. If you can voice your concern clearly, witho…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/15 01:35 PM
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There is no such thing as social progress or regress. Democracy, and its more extreme versions of universal suffrage are not objectively best forms of governments by a long shot. Political freedom is an absurdity, it is not a freedom, it's the freedom to take freedom of others. Voting is an act of force, of violence. To give someone an opportunity to exact violence on others is not progress. Women are not entitled to voting by default. The conflation of technological progress and social "revolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:17 PM
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What if 50/50 custody isn't feasible? What if one party isn't interested? Easily amended by conversation and agreement. I'm not sure how necessary it is to have laws mandating paternity tests and public money being spent on the same, given that a man can easily get a paternity test on his own with his own money if he's so inclined. My state has a government sponsored healthcare. Women use more healthcare than men. Why the hell should I pay for them, especially since they can easily afford it? An…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:02 PM
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it doesn't need to be counterbalanced with men being put in a bad light if you don't think of men in a bad light (as often as you think that way about women, or some women). You say this, but you do not mean this. I do not know if this is conscious deception or unconscious cognitive dissonance. i was just curious if your vitriol was gender neutral, i.e. you go off on, degrade men as often as you do women. My vitriol is gender neutral, at injustice. In instances where injustice is done by members…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:56 PM
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No, it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 11:18 AM
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I've written before about this phenomenon and I'm going to simply repeat this : The problem isn't that RP is extremist. I've argued before that if you compare moderate feminism to RP, and even radical feminism to RP, you will find that RP is more "moderate" in their beliefs than both. RadRPs want to ban women from voting (while giving credible arguments for), while RadFems consider Principia Mathematica a rape manual. The problem is that Overton Window is so far in the feminist's court that any …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 10:24 PM
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Pretty much this. As bad as it sounds (lol), women emancipation only gives you watered down like-men-but-worse workforce and lowers your fertility to the point of below replacement. And since women don't fare well in workforce, they insist on having the work suited to them (hurr, sexism!), instead of them suited to work. They expand the government so that it is a useless mess of bureaucracy, and vote for redistributive policies that empower them at the expense of men. This guy goes more in detai…
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 07:50 PM
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When you say no child support in a no-fault divorce, is that because you assume custody is 50/50? What if it's not? My idea has a lot of problems and it rough as fuck. But custody is shared equally, and such share is mandatory (unless extraordinary circumstances are presented). Whose paying for the mandatory paternity tests? The same couple that's paying costs of childbirth. What if the father refuses to take one? Couldn't women just guilt trip men into not taking them? Baby, if you really loved…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 07:45 PM
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Oh. I thought my collection of 2k Yu Gi Oh cards was huge. Bummer about your cards though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:54 PM
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1.2k cards isn't a huge collection?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:40 PM
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but i don't know how you can trick someone to be in an exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 09:56 PM
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i don't dispute that. Good. Exclusive relationship are abusive to men. i think most red pillers don't tell a plate that they have no intention of ever being serious with that reality. Why don't you try verifying this thing with a new thread titled "Question for Red Pillers, Red Pill identifying folk, and RPkin : Do you tell a plate she's a plate?" You can even go to TRP itself to ask this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 09:22 PM
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I think that some men would rather have sex with ten 9s than one 8. And by some, I actually mean vast majority. "everything that moves" is a hyperbole. I think they were entirely honest with women they were that type of guy Dude, plating is not done in secrecy and assumption of a relationship. Plating is done by openly saying (or showing through action) "LOOK AT ALL THE BITCHES I'M FUCKING. I'M FUCKING A LOT OF BITCHES. NEVER GONNA COMMIT TO ONE. TOO BUSY FUCKING LOTS OF BITCHES." Of course, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 09:06 PM
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And this is how you do satire properly. You should go over to TBP and teach them thing or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 08:52 PM
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as plating is abusive by nature as women are wired to want exclusive relationships (which i think even red pill admits) Men are wired to want to fuck everything that moves, hence exclusive relationships are abusive by nature to men. Women are wired to want exclusive relationship. Women are wired to want to abuse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 08:50 PM
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This is pretty much what I would have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:07 PM
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hostile label Uh, I'm pretty hostile to that type of men. But seriously, to sate you. Men who violently rape women are some bad assholes who should be castrated and fucked with a hot iron poker. There, there's a plenty of hostile labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:05 PM
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I discussed this with my female friends. A lot of us aren't comfortable with abortion or adoption. None of us are pregnant out of wedlock. We are smart. Of course you are not fine with abortion (you know what I mean) done as easily as buying cookies. This is a sign that you're a healthy woman. Abortion is fundamentally some serious business, both physically and psychologically. Taking something like that lightly, and something like that being taken lightly is a sign of a really unhealthy person.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:03 PM
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One more thought I should in depth consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:54 PM
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The link I gave you, from Scott, seventh part : Once again, discrimination on the basis of party was much stronger than discrimination on the basis of race. The size of the race effect for white people was only 56-44 (and in the reverse of the expected direction); the size of the party effect was about 80-20 for Democrats and 69-31 for Republicans They used that Implicit Association Test.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:54 PM
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I told you again, and I will keep repeating. I AM NOT HOSTILE TO ALL WOMEN. ONLY TO WOMEN WHO DO SHITTY STUFF. I AM HOSTILE TO SHITTY PEOPLE. But fine, have this. A man who is insane enough to consider that any mention of personal trauma/any show of vulnerability towards him by a woman who cares enough for him to tell her the truth is a shit test should seriously reconsider himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:49 PM
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You are right, and this is something I should consider more indepth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:44 PM
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If she really was raped, well, I don't want to be a dick, but that's just bullshit that I don't want to have to deal with. Sorry and all that. Of course you have a right to not deal with that. No one should force you to repair traumas, we've got people who are trained in that. And it's something that is inherently counter productive. You cannot help her in an effective way, and she only stresses her out. Both parties are fucked.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 06:38 PM
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Well, there is a difference between childhood trauma, and the "my ex was such a douchebag who abused me for a long long time, and magically took away my agency to dump him". The latter is a shit test and a sign of faulty woman, who is to be nothing more than a plate. The former is a sign of a deeper problem, which is not to be taken lightly or made fun of. I get your sentiment though.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 06:36 PM
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doesn't cover the example i gave. where a family member exploits trust and then exploits shame to keep things quiet. care to revise your answer? You mean like some sort of whitemail...no wait, uh, blackmail? ha, are you saying those men don't exist? Nope. Lol. or if they do, why do they not merit your anger as reflected in your reddit comment history? They do merit my anger. But why would I be concerned with them in this case? When you learn that someone close to you was raped, you feel anger at…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:34 PM
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I fundamentally consider ideology to be more divisive than biology. The reason? Take for example, WW2. Yugoslavia was the only nation that liberated itself. Serbo-Croatian communists (partizans) fought against the defacto alliance of Croatian Nazis and Serbian ultra rightists. Croatian Nazis really hated Serbs (with genocidal fervor, may I add), and Serb ultra nationalists really hated Croats (trying hard to create a Greater Serbia at the territories of Bosnia and Croatia). It was a really funny…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:28 PM
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That's cool. I'm glad the notion of financial abortion appeals to both sides, as far as I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 06:21 PM
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A woman who is insane enough to use child rape as a shit test is to be nexted immediately. A man who is insane enough to consider that any mention of personal trauma/any show of vulnerability towards him by a woman who cares enough for him to tell her the truth is a shit test should seriously reconsider himself.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 04:46 PM
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What do you do when the incidental pregnancy is discovered late? I said that a woman has three choices (pre-coital, post-coital, post-birth) to terminate their obligation to a child. A man has one (pre-coital). The post-coital choice is a consequence of biology, and cannot be transferred to men, more importantly, should not be transferred to men. The post-birth option is the one which can be easily amended in law - women by default have the option of "financial abortion". I do not see any reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:44 PM
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She gave me the advice to go back to "being myself". I told her "This IS my NEW self". Wrong. Don't admit you ever had any change. People close to you respond turbulently to any change. Especially if that change makes you less prone to being a doormat. People love having you as a doormat. she's generally been a huge support and I didn't want to burn her too bad Good. Keep the mental image of her being your support when you start "woof woof, all womyn r whores" idiotic anger phase. I apologize fo…
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 04:41 PM
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Almost forgot the guy. No, but Sowell is also an oddity. Nah, the guy I'm talking about is jayman, a guy who runs a HBD (human biodiversity) blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:40 PM
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You know, sometimes I find it quite amusing that the most extreme proponent of MRA/anti-feminism is a Jewish woman. Like the fact that the most hardcore HBDer is a black man. Life is just full of funny things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:13 PM
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Wow, that was a polite and well structured reply. I'm seriously impressed, props to you. I seriously did not expect that. But, this way, this is structured to force a man out of his money at the whims of a woman who has more choices than him. A cent he pays on the child because the court ordered him to is two cents too much. If you allow financial abortion on part of men, this will incentivize women to abort, and not be burdened by both having the child, and taking care of it. The system you pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:58 PM
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It gets tricky when only one parent wants to keep it. The parent that wants to raise the child can receive full custody and the other parent can choose the degree to which they want to be present in the child's life. If they want nothing to do with the child and agree to forfeit rights to them they would be required to pay a smaller amount of child support Why? Women have three chances to terminate their obligations to their child. One pre-coitus (BC), one post-coitus (abortion), one post birth …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:24 PM
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I don't deny that there aren't ambiguous and vague cases, but that's certainly not all of them. Scrapping emotional abuse law altogether denies victims justice. A law which is based on something not self evident and logical is a faulty law. Some emotional abuse, terrible as it may be, will be covered by abuse laws. Some, as you noticed, is not. The primary duty of law is to protect the innocent, and punish the wicked, in that order. The worst possible type of law is one by which not only are inn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:19 PM
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I seriously have no idea. This stuff I wrote is pretty much like when you were a kid, and you designed a star ship. You put the quantum warp hyperdrive here, you put the shiny screens there, you put a bigass laser on the hood and you color it wicked black. You let some eggheads work out the details on how it would work. Of course, those details are what pretty much makes the system work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:10 PM
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Of course they can do terrible damage. But emotional abuse is so vague and groundless that pretty much anything goes, it's a system which can be prone to abuse more than it can do legitimate good. Also, is that Binding of Isaac reference in your flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:07 PM
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does rape have to be violent/vicious to be rape? for example, do you think when a relative gains the trust of a family member and then takes advantage of them that is usually violent/vicious? Physical violence is a necessary component of rape, whether it is potential (i.e. I'll kill your family threats), or direct. Blackmail also goes into this. also, can you link me to a post where you have labeled men in an equivalently angry tone like "dumb bitches"? Why? I do not label all women dumb bitches…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:05 PM
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People predicted Fidel Castro will die in 1985, in 1990, in 1995, in 2000, in 2005, in 2006, in 2007, in 2008, in 2009, in 2010, in 2011. The conclusion? Fidel Castro is immortal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:21 PM
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Permit no fault divorce. If the couple decide to do a no fault divorce the following occurs : no alimony, no child support. Child custody is equally shared between partners, regardless of their circumstances. In other cases, alimony only happens if one party cannot financially support themselves, or does not have someone who would support them. No "keeping her standard of life" bullshit of 10,000 dollars a month stuff. Both parties are obligated to spend a percentage of money proportional to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:11 PM
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Oh yes, Hungary is keeping it real as fuck. Props to you Mađar bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:00 PM
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In this case, the rapist was sober enough to aggressively fuck her and mock her for her drunkenness. There's almost no ambiguity here. Certainly. In this case, it is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:46 PM
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To say it does is a major understatement. Violent, vicious rape is one of the worst crimes ever for which the present criminal system is way to lenient. Which is why dumb bitches who dilute its meaning into "regret sex" each time they open their mouth should be punished harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:45 PM
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Is it hypocritical of you to prefer vaginas while you yourself have a dick?
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 08:09 PM
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I'm not telling her that her personal experience is wrong. My penis really does make me invulnerable to mugging.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:12 PM
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What I am saying, is that in comparison to typical patriarchal cultures, matriarchal cultures seem to be more egalitarian and here's why: Okay. I can dig that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:22 PM
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Perhaps that was an overstatement. I was always kinda biased towards victims telling the truth. Now, not so much. Reactionaries aren't the only people who react to change. People react to change. Feminist may be changing the national conversation, but they're changing it in such a way that will discredit them more and more. Seriously, making up rape stories then selling them as journalism, thereby hurting innocent men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:18 PM
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Feminists haven't figured out how to do that while still ridding society of these negative ramifications of victim blaming Which is why they have a tendency to overblow rape stories, the most famous one being the one about imaginary UVA gangbang. Which led to fraternity in question being assaulted by protesters. Before feminism and exposure to it, I would have seriously considered rapist all a priori guilty. Now instead of doing that, I consider the probability of "meh, the girl probably had sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:04 PM
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They'd wink at any guys around saying, "and you too, mister!" and all the guys would chuckle like, "lol, I don't need to worry about that shit". Yes, my penis makes me invulnerable to being mugged, it contains magical chemicals which make me immune to date rape drugs. If a guy tries to mug him, I just flash him my penis. He's quickly all like "oh my bad man, didn't know who you were, the alley's dark as fuck and you've got a nice long hair". I propose an alternative, the reason why they tell wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:59 PM
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In a rape, the rapist is the active party, the doer. In a drink driving incident, the driver is the active party. What if a "rapist" is also drunk? Who rapes whom then? In an intercourse between a drunk man and a drunk woman, who is the active party, the rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:50 PM
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This is the last time I'm going to address the semantics of 'matriarchy', if I'd known RPers were going to completely ignore the actual post to nitpick this shit... Oh, I'm sorry if this wasn't your goal, but please do understand, nitpicking definitions of matriarchy is important. Controlling the definitions and words allows for control of the discourse. It's pretty much important that we understand that Matriarchy (matris - mothers, arkhein - rule) is NOT gender equal power distribution. The de…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:49 PM
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Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:38 PM
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Uh, this goes contrary to the narrative that RPers are raping machine without prejudice. Unless the prejudice is racism. Also, if a woman drinks and then drives a car and gets into a traffic accident, does that mean that she gave no consent and should be TOTALLY absolved of all responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:49 AM
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Ok, how about this: societies which have things like matrilineal inheritance, females as heads of family and/or occupying leadership positions in the community can be said to have matriarchal practices, and are distinct from patriarchal societies. How about this. Female counterpart of patriarchy. Like it says on both matriarchy wiki, and patriarchy wiki. The problem is the latter definition, as distinct by patriarchy. Matriarchy is not egalitarian. It is female dominance. You and the folks who k…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:46 AM
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academia It isn't the hard science academia, but soft science one. The guys who piggy back on technological progress contributing nothing and then going "hmhm, without us, there wouldn't be this". As if human social "progress" is like technology. Gays didn't want rights up until Newton invented calculus, and had we not granted suffrage to women, there would be no nuclear bomb or computers. So, I urge you to watch Hjernevask (the side bar under GENDER STUDIES IS NONSENSE), or even just take a sam…
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 11:01 AM
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You have a problem with the linguistic notion of the word, you want matriarchy to be the definition of patriarchy but with women, but it's not. Uh, wikipedia definition says that Matriarchy is : "form of social organization in which the mother or oldest female is the head of the family, and descent and relationship are reckoned through the female line; government or rule by a woman or women." ... "female dominance". ... Within the academic discipline of cultural anthropology, according to the OE…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:56 PM
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My father's people are a matriarchal society that trucked along happily They actually constantly waged war one against the other, often enslaving and brutalizing and raping and all the other fun stuff. I wouldn't call American Natives matriarchal, and I wouldn't call them trucking along happily. Unless you consider torture and rape and wanton murder fun. Then I would agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 04:53 PM
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Neoreaction accepts both sides on this.There are pro-Feminist Neoreactionaries.But there are also many, many, many anti-Feminist Neoreactionaries. Uh, what? You cannot be pro-Feminist Neoreactionary. It's a complete contradiction. If you want Hegelian synthesis of Neoreaction and Progressivism, you've got modern day Conservatism, in all its corrupt and pathetic glory. No, to be a Progressive signals that you do not compromise with the right, you do not want to move right (God forbid!), and you d…
/r/TheRedPill25/12/14 11:18 PM
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and the other person is enabling them My own personal value system, which may be contrary to your own - and that is fine (over value systems we don't bicker as we do over facts), holds that if you want to actually learn how a person is, put them in a close proximity of temptation. If they yield, you now know what a person they truly are. The source of that temptation is for me, not a person, but merely an object. I absolve him/her of all guilty, and put the guilt entirely on the cheater - after …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:39 PM
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I think the math has been done here in PPD, and it came into favour of not-marrying, even without the risk of losing half your stuff, and without the fact that marrying does not in any way guarantee a service like a maid/chef/personal assistant. based on the imagine of a stay at home wife Yeah, this is what irks me. Imagine if I used the same logic, went to my highschool teacher and said "give me back my 1 billion money", I could have bought a lotto ticket during the time I spent in school and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:31 PM
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unemployment tax Unemployment compensation is designed to pay benefits to workers when they lose their jobs through no fault of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:26 PM
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Personally, I think the best reason to expose cheating is to help whoever is being cheated on leave a bad relationship. We agree on something. But the thread and similar ones have a point. You do not "steal" a woman. The concept is ridiculous. They do not get "seduced". They have a choice, and if they chose cheating, well, you know what happens. Burden of loyalty lies not on the person who has sex with a cheater, but on a cheater. It is ludicrous to think otherwise, and it completely denies the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:24 PM
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On the sidebar, under "New Here?" there is a link called "Gender Studies is Nonsense". It is about a documentary called Hjernevask (brainwash), about, well, what folks would call "cultural marxism" and how it is implemented. It contains 7 episodes, and you can see the way progressives and academics/"sociologists" think. Start with Sex/Gender Equality, then go for the HBD (Human Biodiversity). These folks literally consider "acknowledgement of race" to drive all whites into non-white killing fren…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 11:30 PM
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I said I know. But the way this new financial abuse mechanic is going to work, I'm afraid it's not going to be like this. It's easy to abuse it. And it's completely redundant. If you don't want to be responsible for a SAHM, don't marry someone who wants to be one. Why, that's victim blaming. But just so, I'm going to make a slight tweak. What if your wife suddenly desires not to work, while she previously wanted? How would you solve this problem, legally speaking? There's an assumption that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:07 PM
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Men, most of whom are kind-natured and not TRP men, don't intentionally deceive and manipulate women. LOL. I would never be so daft to say something like this. Why yes, all men are gold-hearted, kitten-petting, baby-saving angles. When men do bad, it's because those evil harpies of female gender trick and manipulate them into that, when those evil female overlords are not busy kicking puppies and eating babies that is. To give you my personal opinion, many things that women and men do is conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:15 PM
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Uh, no. It's like finding that your political party lied about X issue, and starting to think about what else they might have lied to you about, as opposed to accept everything else, except the things you know positively to be lies, blindly.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 07:08 PM
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PPD does not give DE platform, and considering that DE outlook is vastly more represented in history than "feminism" or "common human decency", it isn't DE that needs legitimacy. And besides, DE is not fascist. We're not nearly that progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:01 PM
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Clothing is meant to inflate a woman's looks (and therefore her attractiveness) through artificial methods. Clothing is meant to inflate a man's looks (and therefore his attractiveness) through artificial methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:55 PM
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Make up is meant to inflate a woman's looks (and therefore her attractiveness) through artificial methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:50 PM
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Imagine that you're some kind of an expert. For example, an expert in physics. One sunny morning, you're sipping a cup of coffee and reading the newspaper. Up comes an article about physics. You, being an expert in physics, see that pretty much everything is wrong with it. The journalist writing this has no grasp on facts behind it, he often reverses cause and effect, and he misattributes stuff. You conclude reading an article proclaiming that this was the biggest bullshit you ever read. And the…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/14 06:44 PM
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then their work has value that deserves to be recognised. Yes, their value has to be recognized. But because one partner stays at home, while the other works (something that people oft forget), does not mean that the value of both partners is equal, and that the stay-at-home partner is entitled to entirety of money the other partner earns, especially not entitled at a gunpoint. Cleaning + cooking + sex + child rearing has it's price, and considering that neither of these are guaranteed within a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:33 PM
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Financial abuse is a redundant type of crime which can only be abused. If a man works for his money, he does not owe his woman a single dime. Vice versa. If there are two incomes, and one party denies other party access to their money, it is theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:43 PM
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Hold on, let me get this straight. You say that by explicitly pointing out two "major" and/or "unique" traits, you implicitly deny that other traits are present? It may certainly be that TRP considers beauty and fertility a major asset, and it is something that I personally agree with, but TRP doesn't, for LTR purposes, say that these are the two only criteria. TRP's "slut shaming" is proof to that. In fact, RPW is even borne out of idea that there are types of female behaviour that make even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:38 PM
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long term benefits to humanity I cannot force someone else to sacrifice their own time and resources for some vague greater good, it is contrary to my own value set. Especially when we're not talking about a short term greed of abstract corporations, but small business owners who depend on min maxing the cost to profit ration. I also do not want to force someone else, by soft or hard power, to employ people who they do not want to employ when they have a "better" alternative. Paternity/maternity…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:35 PM
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How about you go ask this in RP? There is only a small part of people from RP here, and if you go straight to the source, you'll get more diverse opinions and strategies? Also, I could tell you how I would hypothetically check for that. You ease it up with showing a nonjudgmental attitude. You can do this by being libertarian (as opposed to liberal) about everything - everyone has his own personal autonomy, blah blah blah. Important thing to note is that you do not actually lie, since you will n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:56 AM
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I think you're correct that in a purely financial sense it might make someone a bit more money And this is the only criteria I was going by. To me, it is more important to make a compromise and make it viable for people to continue to have children and devote more time to them Certainly. My own personal opinion is that the state itself should provide for a maternity/paternity leave, as it is the state itself that benefits from it (more children = more meat for the meat grinder). Also, it should …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:28 AM
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Let's assume that sexual beauty is entirely subjective. Is it still not a major asset of women in getting a mate? Do you really think that beauty, however subjective may be, is not one of the criteria for men? You can argue that it's not a "major" criteria, but you can only argue that if you yourself have an attraction for women (which you yourself said that you don't). And of course many women are not fertile and still have worth as romantic partners. I do not see a problem with this. TRP says …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:25 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JymN5yu-K_o From the 5th minute onward.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/14 06:09 PM
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The original post you said "all things EQUAL, some would hire a MAN over a WOMAN". It took dedication on your part to bring up those statistics. But it is still riskier to hire women because as you say : women are more likely than men to take parental leave because they get pregnant It isn't a matter of not hiring a woman, or hiring a lower ability man over a greater ability woman. It is a matter of choice between two equals, only different in gender. if employers are basing their hiring decisio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:58 PM
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major asset and unique selling point is their sexual beauty and fertility So a major asset of women aren't their sexual beauty and fertility? It is not something that is unique to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:04 PM
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Again, you really need to understand that your value-based normative judgments are not the same thing as objective facts. But that is an objective fact. A woman's value is her attractiveness to men. A man's value is his attractiveness to women. What the hell is it so hard for you to understand? Women don't get to decide their attractiveness, nor do men. Arguing with people on the internet, such tyranny. LOL. Cut the hyperbole next time. Unless it's shitting on TRP. Then they're Hitlers. I am gay…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:45 PM
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You were arguing "you shouldn't be mad when people say your value as a woman is based on your attractiveness, you're conflating that with your value as a person!" Yes. Because that is true. A woman's value is based on her attractiveness. Never have I said that is is based solely on her attractiveness. As for that matter, neither did TRP. In fact, they sometimes make claim that there are factors which might decrease a woman's value or increase them for that matter, which are unrelated to attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:19 PM
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You're contradicting yourself, with parents it's a "numbers game" because women are more often the involved parent but with false accusation of harassment it suddenly doesn't matter how often it actually happens? How is that a contradiction? It's also a numbers game, especially when related to men. A woman has a greater chance to be physically incapacitated due to her status as a mother than a father. A woman has a greater chance to falsely claiming sexual harassment took place than a man. The f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:12 PM
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but in all other ways an involved male and female parent will look the same to an employer Nope. The very fact that women have to undergo pregnancy, physical recovery, and undergo severe hormone changes is not something that is that easily dismissed. Being an involved mother still happens more frequently, but it's no different than being an involved father. That is the only thing worth talking about. It's a numbers game. how often does this happen? Doesn't matter. They're still a liability in ey…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:41 PM
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The distinction between "value as a woman" and "value as a person" is a meaningless distinction. No it's not. So "value as a woman" is a subset of "value as a person". See, here you understand that value as your gender is actually a subset of value as a person, and you use the term "subset". You then imply that there are things that are outside of value as a woman, but within a set of value as a person. Hence, the distinction is not meaningless. You manage to contradict yourself within three sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:34 PM
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How are female parents anymore an economic liability than male parents? Females get pregnant. They are physically unable to do work they are contracted to do. Men don't and. How can you deny that female pregnancy is more work incapacitating than male having a child? And this isn't just paternity maternity leave. It is about a danger of woman who gets irrational indignant, and sues for sexual harassment, even though such harassment never took place. You can pull out the fact that sexual harassmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:13 PM
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A woman's value is determined by the amount of things she has that makes women wanted BY MEN. A man's value is determined by amount of things he has that makes men wanted BY WOMEN. A person's value is determined by the amount of things he or she has that makes OTHER PEOPLE want him or her. Those three are not related to each other. What society wants or what you want is not what will necessarily make you attractive to other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:06 PM
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Well, the guy who started it - Curtis Yarvin called it formalism. In Europe, it also goes by the moniker Nouvelle Droite, or the New Right. Russia's version of it owes its existence to Aleksandr Dugin, and his "Fourth Political Position/Theory". The Dark Enlightenment is actually a term coined by British philosopher Nick Land who also made an impressive intro to it - link. But guy's pretty cray cray, and highly verbose, so if you don't have the patience then he's not your man. He blogs at Outsid…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 12:13 AM
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You think I'm misunderstanding something here but I'm not. ... It is saying there is *literally nothing else desirable about a woman. ... is very clearly talking about overall worth as a human being. You moved goal posts from "they literally think women are stupid and inferior" to "the only major assets you should look for in a relationship are sexual beauty and fertility" a notion TRP doesn't say. IT DOESN'T USE THE WORD SHOULD. IT USES THE WORD "IS". BECAUSE SEXUAL BEAUTY IS A WOMAN'S MAJOR AS…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:40 PM
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It is saying there is literally nothing else desirable about a woman. Seriously. You take that from a quote. Fine, let's pick it apart. Their major asset ... is their sexual beauty and fertility So, when someone says that a person has a major asset, it is then implied that that asset is not the only one. Otherwise, this major asset would be said to be "the only asset". If I were to say that major part of my staff are women, it does not mean that I only employ women - in fact, it means that I pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:14 PM
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Suppose that I'm an employer. Small time, my life and ability to feed my children depend on being cost to profit effective. Can you give me a valid reason why hiring a woman is just as safe as hiring a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:04 PM
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I find it interesting BP women so often conflate worth as a human being with comments on their sexual attractiveness. Then he says : Well put. Your worth as a man is your ability to do the things for which men are wanted. Your worth as a woman is your ability to do the things for which women are wanted. Your worth as a person is your ability to do the things for which people are wanted. Value is inherently tied to who is doing the valuing and for what. You reinforce his position by not being abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:03 PM
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Dark Enlightenment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 10:38 PM
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Lol, explaining TRP to my father and grandparents would be like pointing out the sky is blue. I would, however, have to take considerable effort to explain DE to them. But that too would be easy, all I'd have to say is that instead of creating NDH or communist Yugoslavia, I'd rather have Austria-Hungary back. I have not yet met a fellow Croat who has disagreed with this prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 10:26 PM
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A: It has been said, and proven, that women are less inclined than men to be logical. B: So you say, that I, as a woman, am unable to be logical? A: Nope, just that women, generally, are less inclined than men to be logical. B: Wait what, so I, a femfolk, am not allowed to be logical, and am unable to be logical, but here I stand, a logical woman. How does your ideology cope with my existence? A: You're allowed to be logical, but women generally are less inclined than men to be logical. There is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:36 PM
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So would I. Explain to me, why should I hire a woman over man if bother are equal. If a woman gets pregnant, she gets to have a paid maternity leave. Who pays for a maternity leave? I do. She is a liability to me. If a woman gets indignant and decides that she can easily cry sexual harrassment and ruin me, she can easily do so. You can argue that rape is still underreported, but when I can easily see a major newspaper printing out a rape story which is so false and calling for a witch hunt, I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:12 PM
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It says I am not allowed to be logical It says that women are not inclined to be logical. It does not mean that YOU PERSONALLY are not "allowed" to be logical. TRP is not a political movement, they don't want to be in a position where they allow a vast majority something. If I were to say that women are not inclined towards fields like physics, which is backed by evo psych and REALITY, it does not mean that I would want to forbid women from entering colleges. If I were to say that women are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:09 PM
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OP can easily be wrong. Especially when you think about the line "women and children first".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:57 PM
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But, it's going to be unfair to solely attack TBP, as it most certainly should be, without answering your question. Since you're posting here, and not circlejerking over there, I'm going to assume that you're somewhat willing to open mindedly discuss stuff. TRP is first and foremost a sexual strategy. It postulates that there is a certain set of behaviour which will elicit a positive response in all women/nearly all women/statistically significant amount of women to want to have sex with you. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:56 PM
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You can't take some example of feminist hypocrisy and hold TBP accountable for response. Don't worry, we have enough of TBP hypocrisy to go with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:40 PM
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Oh my, are you perhaps insinuating that being sexually liberated young woman is somehow comparably to being a rapist. Because that was mind rape. I am literally triggered. This is BP worthy. There is a difference in treating every man like a rapist, and difference in treating every woman like a potential slut. The latter is passive, don't marry the hoe and GIVE HER THE HALF OF WHAT YOU MADE, you deserve to have your preferences and ENTIRETY OF WHAT YOU MADE. The former is active, chain every man…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:28 PM
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All TRP "field reports" are most likely fakes made up by sad and ugly men, which show incredible bias towards Red Pill narrative. We should always believe a woman's account of something is the most unbiased one. If a woman says she was emotionally abused, SHE WAS YOU FUCKING CISLORD SCUM.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:23 PM
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Many of us are very critical of the shittier parts of feminism. No you're not. You're critical only when it turns out that you cannot possibly side with it and preserve your smug moral superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:55 PM
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It's ok to have a distaste for sleeping around, but you gotta keep it consistent for both genders. Lol, no you don't. What insanity possessed you that both genders should have exactly same standards which must be reflective of what they can offer? If I have a dick, and I a piece of shit for wanting a vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 03:10 PM
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Also, what's the deal with those deleted comments? Isn't TBP supposed to be a satire sub where anything goes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 03:04 PM
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The brother is at fault for ruining their relationship with the rest of the family because he decided to get involved with and ruin another relationship. A woman's past history doesn't matter. You shouldn't get involved with telling folks about it (especially her parents) because it's so irrelevant that it's a waste of breath. You best keep your fucking mouth shut. Another topic, TRP is a place where free thought and speech contrary to their muh sogge kneeist narrative is being censored and ridi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 03:03 PM
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Sometimes I wish we could use pure hypocrisy as an energy source. TBP would then keep us running for the next century. If I ever were to come across RP men or men who share RP standards for woman's sexual history, I would instantly drop them. Such men are toxic muh sogge kneeist douchebags and I hate them so much. Ohmahgerd, a guy just dumped my cousin because he found out she was ~a slut~ sexually liberated and empowered woman holy shit TRP is ruining relationships left and right. Of course, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 02:59 PM
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Then I'd hate to be that person, but I would try talking to his [the brother's] girlfriend and warning her of what he has become- LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 02:30 PM
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You sound absolutely lovely. That family loyalty is delightful. /u/reliably : Just cut him [OP's brother] out of your life as much as possible. He's an adult, he's made his choices, don't give him a chance to do to you or someone else you can about what he did to Nikki. /u/strategicatomicmoose That a great point. Her brother might try to sabotage her future relationships if she stays in even somewhat close contact with him. It doesn't help anyone to have him around. Her brother is somehow a Mach…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 11:46 AM
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If you can point out a red piller who has completely left the anger phase let me know and I'll point out all their recent posts demonstrating clear anger at feminism, liberal ethics etc. Unrelated to the topic at hand, but something I noticed. If there is a particular subset of behaviour/type of something, and you decide to name it differently than it currently is, you're obfuscating. If you don't, there's a lot of misinterpretation. This is such with TRP lingo, obnoxious as it may be. Anger pha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 11:13 AM
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I'd say most women look for a good balance between the two. Neither extremes are good options for a LTR. Bingo! Going for two different extremes at the same time and kinda averaging it out is pretty fucking dangerous for women - especially since men kinda have this problem where they don't like being cuckolded.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:30 PM
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Do you think feminism manufactures the sexless gammas somehow? If I am to have a conspiracy theory, I am not going to go with feminists. Masons, lizard people, or Jews are my favorite "guilty for all the wrongs in the world" architects of Ilerminaty. But if I were to try explain stuff through mass action instead of actual conspiracy, I would say that feminism has an impact on culture. But I would not place the creation of sexless gammas solely on it. Hell, I don't know what happened. Is it the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 06:53 PM
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Oh yes, but not less prevelant. Just less open. Certainly. You can't control sexuality 100 percent. If there was no moral element, there would be no anger. To be perfectly honest, the "anger" phase is supposed to be a cathartic experience after which you lose it. Sort of like taking a dump. Hence, the "anger" phase might be a extreme result of red pill's perceived blue pill indoctrination ("herp herp, the society LIED to us, LIED to us!). I don't buy the anger phase and do condemn it in TRP beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 06:46 PM
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Which is why r-type and K-type both can be interpreted as "courageous". And why it has its limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 06:36 PM
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if this were true, more advanced cultures would have more sexual differentiation and i think the evidence suggests they are more androgynous. Well, I would hardly call Rome or Egypt or Victorian England or Chinese Empire or Umayyad Caliphate a gender equal places. If they truly were gender equal places, then there would be no need for feminism. If anything, all prior societies have differentiated between gender roles, and took them seriously. if k values result in a better society, higher qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 09:06 PM
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I'm not sure I agree, how much do you know about men in the 1950s? To be perfectly honest, not much. But I do understand that during the conservative days of my country, and especially conservative parts of today, male sexuality and plate spinning is heavily frowned upon. Isnt your political philosophy is a measure of what you say and believe, not what you do? Most people are hypocrites. They do not focus on a return to a previous status quo. But only on how to make the best of it. They do somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:33 PM
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Anyway, I have always wanted to visit Croatia, any city in particular I should visit that you would recommend? From the continental side, the capitol, Zagreb. From the coastal side, Zadar, Split, Rijeka or Dubrovnik. Basically all major coastal cities are a worldwide tourist attraction with a shitton of monuments, lovely beaches, and a vibrant nightlife. Dubrovnik is especially ancient, and has a long and rich tradition, but it is also quite costly (but to a foreigner from West, not that much). …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:26 PM
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Superior fertility rate would only make sense in a society where a ton of babies/kids die and *need to be replaced. A lot of progressive countries have their native birth rites below replacement. This necessitates mass immigration which very much changes the culture and the atmosphere of the native countries. repressing women politically and economically I can offer you an explanation (which I myself am not really sure in) that should women take political power, they will redirect the distributi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:22 PM
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TRPers themselves generally express admiration for the sexual politics of the 60s and disgust for the sexual revolution and liberation of women. This is a classic reactionary view. Certainly it is and I'd somewhat agree that they do. But the fact stands that TRP existence only makes sense in a sexually liberated world - the fact that redpillers "prefer" 50s doesn't make them reactionary or conservative especially since their methods are completely opposite of male sexual policy of 50s - watch wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:10 PM
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This is sneaky, I'll give you that. Reactionaries want to adapt to a status quo by going back to previous status quo. True. But, TRP does not adapt by returning to previous status quo. Hence, TRP is not reactionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:17 PM
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this post assumes culture is a result of indoctrination and not a result of the k style being a genetic trait, and culture merely being an expression of a k style dominant population. Certainly. Certain memes stick, either because they are somehow advantageous to human condition or because mysterious reasons X. Those memes then make up a culture. I would not call K style a genetic trait. Humans, races, individuals might vary in proclivity to K or r style which may be partially genetic (or wholly…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:40 PM
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Environment either fosters r type or K type. K type is fostered through extensive control and male and female sexuality. r type is fostered when there is no need to foster K type. Society, namely Western civilization (but it extends to any civilization), had a K type outlook. I would argue that civilization in general has a K type outlook. Female sexual revolution made it so that women can pursue r strategy regardless of their K indoctrination, and despite their K indoctrination. Male's innate s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 05:43 PM
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Using the r/K terminology has its limits. You cannot really just compare a street gang to rabbits. That's the point of misusage of this terminology. r and K societies are only r and K through resources and their scarcity. Resource production also favors in the resource scarcity. I suppose I can somewhat agree with risk=r-type, but I can look at it like risk=K-type. Hence the confusion, it not being an exact model.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 03:58 PM
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They said The topic was the difference between rad feminism and rad TRP. To change the goal post to "yeah, both are kinda shitty" is dishonest. Especially since one is several degrees more insane and powerful. I only compared rad TRP to "moderate" feminists (who were known for violence) and "contemporary established" feminists (the folks in the Hjernevask video). As it turns out, TRP is more grounded in reality and pacifism than feminism. So we're doing a comparison. If we drop the comparison, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 03:40 PM
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What the article suggests is that women do it willingly, there is no reason for this repression RP seems to want to have. The willingness of women is a crucial part of maintaining any society, no matter how much traditional or progressive they are. The willingness of women to suppress their sexuality factor may be heavily distorted with cultural/religious indoctrination and/or the innate biological realization that promiscuous females are less likely to attract a providing mate. As for the repre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 02:48 PM
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However, within the context of people I would say the environment has been r-selected. TRP is a pragmatic adaptation of that, which is why it seems r-selected to you. This is something very very true that I failed to notice in my post. If we consider female sexual revolution a mark of "social progress", then subsequent male adaptation to this revolution (a revolution of their own) is "social progress" as well. Female sexual revolution is progress for women, male sexual revolution is progress for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 01:33 PM
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The r-type and K-type is something that is known to prominent Red Pillers /Manospherebloggers/PUAs like Roosh and Roissy (in fact, I vaguely recall that he was criticized for his usage of it, much like the OP quoted). The critique went something along "r/K type is too simplified, and it's not really applicable to humans as it is a method to understand various species as opposed to races and ethnicities and cultures, etc. This theory is something that has been already looked at from a political p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 01:25 PM
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So then it's only socially progressive for straight males? This phrasing is something that I very much like. Nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:46 PM
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red pill world view is based on a pile of pseudoscience and closed minded bullshit. As opposed to feminism which is based on hard science and open minded bullshit? See, you harp on about TRP being pseudoscience, but it uses evo psych pretty scarcely. And when it does use it, it is very hard to refute unless you go "bleh bleh biotrufs" libtard route. But on the other hand, you've got this. This is a person who TEACHES Gender Studies and Women's Studies at Norwegian Gender Institute. She is OPENLY…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:56 PM
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Sigh, we had this stuff before. Red Pill is a reaction to female sexual revolution. No, Red Pill is not reactionary. You can react to something and not be a reactionary. A reactionary favours return to a previous state in a society, and he actively promotes such a return. Red Pill piggybacks on the change feminism brings to culture in West and how it alters power balance with singular intent for red pilled men to take the best that they can from it. Sexual "empowerment" makes it so that women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:37 PM
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My money's on it being a testament to cuittler's patience and goodwill, though. Well, the user myfriendscantknow also debated me, so did many others who had no problem understanding me. My money is on your ADD. The fact that they engaged something in what they labeled debate says something. And my arguments are solid. Also, the fact that I was upvoted and gilded in this sub goes for my case more than it goes for yours. Also, chastising someone for insults only works if you DON'T insult people No…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:10 PM
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Most of my relationships have been long term I have only been with 18 guys and I have been sexually active since I was 17 years old. What the holy fuck? I have a distinct feeling that this is a troll post. EDIT : Saw TRP mention in a top most comment. This is a troll post.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 07:04 PM
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No it isn't. My point, from the beginning, keeps today's feminism in mind. Uh huh. I think the problem here is that it's a lot easier to identify the "prominent" redpillers than it is the "prominent" feminists when asking what the difference is between calling out radical redpillers and radical feminists. What represents a prominent feminist? Nowhere do I see "what represents a prominent current feminist". But let's play it your game. You say that it is easier to identify prominent RPers than pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:05 PM
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A funny thing is both the guy I'm debating currently with, and the others on this sub, the most prominent debater which I ever had a pleasure of debating is (cuittler) had no problem understanding me. Otherwise, there would be hardly any debate, let alone 5-6 posts in contrast. But then you come with insults that my posts are incoherent and say so little. The fact that I can debate stuff with this guy and that he can understand me is a testament against your position. Or perhaps the fault lies i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:00 PM
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It's not. Then why say : What represents a prominent feminist? There's no standard because it's a political and sociological belief, fluid and changing with the time. This is a contradiction. Or is your stance fluid and changing as feminism? TRP is sitting at about 80k or so subscribers, with a rigid hierarchy and fairly strict posting standards. TRP is a subdreddit. Feminism too is a subreddit. It has as rigid and strict structure as TRP. So does the mainstream movement. And the mainstream femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 09:28 PM
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I think the problem here is that it's a lot easier to identify the "prominent" redpillers than it is the "prominent" feminists when asking what the difference is between calling out radical redpillers and radical feminists. What represents a prominent feminist? How do you identify prominent Communists from the guys who wank over Che Guevara? How do you identify prominent fascists? How do you identify prominent scientists? How do you identify prominent philosophers? Any child will tell you that A…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 08:27 PM
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Monogamy is the standard, and anything outside of monogamy is considered extremely taboo. Nope. I believe everyone should be free to pursue whatever the form of sexual relationship they want, with a caveat that they understand the consequences of it. If you're the kind of gal who prefers ONS, then go for it, but don't complain if men respond negatively - they are free to have their preferences. If you're the kind of guy who prefers girls shit on his chest while loudly yelling "I'm Margaret Thatc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:49 PM
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Replace her with Mia Love, Condoleezza Rice, Laura Bush, or Sarah Palin then. I greatly disagree with Hilary's politics, and that line is one of the main reason why I would never vote for her (and note she's gotten a lot of well-deserved shit for that). The point was never in Clinton. The point was that you just picked feminists by their popularity, and not by their contribution. The folks you mentioned are not prominent feminists, they are actors (you know, there is a reason why actors are cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:05 PM
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Hillary Clinton Oh, the gal who said something like "Women are the primary victims of war". Compared to "never met a bitch who wasn't crazy" which is a personal experience, and not implication that all bitches be crazy, or to the fact that women are most responsible teenager in the house (what does that even mean?) the former quote is many times more insane and psychopathic. Oh and, age of consent is not something that is carved in stone. It may be that the poster was right, that a society does …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:02 PM
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I really hope you never have a daughter OR SON who is in an abusive relationship, because your lack of compassion or understanding for their situation will hurt almost as much as the abuse itself. Oh lol. That is pretty empathic. I hope you get your offspring damaged. Firstly, I'm not going to show empathy for them and support them through every single thing they do. If my 18 year old daughter starts hitting herself I'm not going to try and be understanding of her because if I do stand by her th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:28 PM
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Punching Morpheus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 06:33 PM
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Your entire post could be boiled down to "I dont believe in emotional abuse. Blame the bitch for not leaving". OH YES IT DOES. After a certain period, do blame the bitch for not leaving. This however, does not mean that you do not blame the guy. I am showing a lack of empathy. I do not show empathy to those who had a choice and folded it because of their own stupidity. And no, there is difference in physical abuse and emotional abuse. Actual law, the only sane version of it, differentiates betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 06:29 PM
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Every scientist I know is timid, shy and has difficulties finding a girlfriend Selection bias. And let's not consider finding a girlfriend the height of masculinity, because that's simply not true. It is however true that masculinity attracts women, but masculinity is not defined through women. As for mentality, "manly man" wants to win arguments, not to be right. The scientists wants to be right because being right is one of the best ways to win arguments. There is a great deal of hubris in sci…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 06:10 PM
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This reminds me of my very first post here on PPD. There was this big commotion about RP being "abusive" and encouraging "abusive behaviour". There was this story about a woman who spent 5 years with her boyfriend, who was essentially "abusing her". I put "abuse" in quotations because he did stuff like kicked her out from his house when she didn't put out, or was emotional distance. At any point in time, she could have just said fuck off, and both her brother and father would kick this guy's ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 05:55 PM
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It's a bit weird to talk about science being feminine, because it was never particularly masculine to begin with. In the sense that athletes being more masculine than mathletes. You're making it seem like the only form of masculinity is the physical one. If we go what you said, all brain no body, bring only your logic and check out your emotions at the door, STEM fits more into masculine types of behaviour (because avoidance of emotion, stoicism, RP "frame holding" is all about leaving your emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 07:57 PM
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Perhaps I should clarify. I have no idea where you will find them in USA. It's a different culture to me, don't ask a fish for advice on flying. But the mindset of OP is self destructive and highly degenerate. Folks who dislike the casual sex culture extremized in club scene by pure instinct should abstain from it. Not because I want to perpetuate BP blueballs, but because they will feel disgusted by it and by themselves, like OP did.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/14 05:29 PM
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Oh wow, what a huge flaming faggot you are. BPed and recently "Red Pilled" have some vague grasp on what hypergamy and T in AWALT stands for, but ultimately cast them as some sort of evil boogeyman that makes all women seem evil succubi who spermjack/babytrap/divorcerape etc. Yes, women who ride the CC are pretty much not relationship worthy. No, despite what other folks tell you, if you engage in the CC your relationship worth will drop, not rise. Yes, women are hypergamous. That means that the…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/14 09:17 PM
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I can dig that. I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 10:52 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:12 PM
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So your view is "everyone is biased". Nope. My view is that her assessment of her situation is biased. It is then silly to make conclusions based on what she tells you. A person who makes conclusions on her own statements alone, and not on her actions, is by default biased to her assessment. Suppose that X has been killing and raping women, but telling you this story about how they all had it coming. Isn't it safer to assume that X is a bloody psychopath than that they all had it coming? RPW are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:10 PM
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I've claimed that the differences are one of degree, and small ... To sum up: I think there is more than "a shred of evidence" for sex differences that are relevant to statistical gender disparities in elite hard science departments. This is contradictory. Small differences are statistically irrelevant. Statistically relevant differences are not small. whereas red pill think they are QUALITATIVE Red pill focuses only, and only, ONLY on differences in sexual standards and selection, and ONLY on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:59 PM
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One of reasons the woman in the infamous spreadsheet cited was not "mental stress" but watching reruns of Friends. Given that she didn't object to it as a valid reason, and that the account was given by her and only her, it is safe to assume that her reasoning is biased in the favour of portraying herself as a victim. In other words, she is hamstering - rationalizing her actions in such a way that she is absolved of all guilty. We doubt the veracity of TRP field reports, so I see no reason to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:44 PM
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Thats not true at all, you just consistently failed to understand what this means: No offense, but I think you failed to understand my analogy, and how your statement offers nothing constructive. There is more variance between folks in Chinese culture and German culture, than there is difference between Chinese culture and German culture. Yet there are distinct differences that we could use to approximate (NOT ACCURATELY PINPOINT EACH AND EVERY INDIVUDAL PERSON) and differentiate between culture…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:16 PM
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Finally there's a sex difference in variability. It's crucial here to look at the right samples. Estimates of variance depend highly on the tails of the distribution, which by definition contain smaller numbers of people. Since people at the tails of the distribution in many surveys are likely to be weeded out for various reasons, it's important to have large representative samples from national populations. In this regard the gold standard is the Science paper by Novell and Hedges, which report…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 06:13 PM
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I don't quite see the point of this. He made a statement completely opposite of what you're now saying, and completely illogical one at that. I was correcting that. I don't really care for whatever is TBP's latest false outrage on TRP, nor do I care what latest revenge porn have folks at TRP written. I'm not willing to defend TRP on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:33 PM
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It's fine to make generalizing statements about both of those groups. Yet this guy says There is vastly more variance withing each gender than there is between the averages of each gender Which is faulty logic. As per TRP rhetoric and their inflammatory statements, which are quite oft misunderstood or taken without context as to provoke "lel, TRP hatez womyn" response, you're asking the wrong guy. I was simply replying to what he posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 10:17 PM
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Not really a place to discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:49 PM
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But I've came to realize an appeal of emotions is more effective. I am indeed refining my rhetoric and tactics. If logical thinking would be the thing that moved people, the world would look a lot different and would have had far more bloodier history.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:44 PM
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Do you know the capacity for children to listen to the same song over and over again? I've got RHCP ruined by my younger brother like that. Especially when it's at 2AM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:39 PM
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I apologize for any generalization of your posts, but honestly, it just sounds so whiny. I can be capable of it, and choose not to partake in it. I can dish and receive heated exchanges. It seems like a lost cause. Nothing is a lost cause. You refine your rhetoric and tactics. If you truly do not want this, then leave without uttering a sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:37 PM
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Actually, this sub serves a good purpose. It is often good to articulate your thoughts, gather facts that serve your belief or disprove it completely, and to hear what the other side has to tell, in those short moments where all the snark and snide dies down. Folks from the BP side this serves as a sub in which they can seriously try to dissuade RP folks, without having to keep the guise of "satire". Folks from the RP side this serves as a place where they can articulate their thoughts and refin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:23 PM
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There is vastly more varience within each gender than there is between the averages of each gender. There is vastly more variance within Chinese and German culture than there is between the averages of each culture. Chinese and German culture don't exist. EDIT : Where are your proofs of similarity?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 06:11 PM
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Oh cut the bullshit. Mods are fair, and they don't mod instantly. This thread "How do redpill men feel about blah blah" is up for the past 20 minutes, and it is impossible and really unrealistic to have something moderated instantly, especially since this is a relatively slow sub. As for BP personal attacks, holy crap, if you cannot take some snark and ridicule it, then why are you even here? Personal attacks with snide language and fake endearment are tolerated, as they should be. EDIT : Perhap…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 10:02 PM
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Look, I'm sorry you're having trouble with the comparison but I think the attitudes are similar in their extremeness towards a behavior, enough so that I thought it worth pointing out. But when you acknowledge that there is a huge difference in being a slut and being a rapist, one which gets men in jail, gets them ostracized from community, etc, while being a slut in comparison warrants zero jail time, those two are not similar in their extremeness at all. Hence, comparison on the extremeness ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 05:59 PM
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But you explicitly (well not really explicitly, but you kinda get my point) said that being a slut is not even similar to being a rapist. Why do you draw comparison between being a slut and being a rapist, when you yourself know that such comparison is retarded as there is not even a hint of similarity between a slut and a rapist? They are both extreme attitudes But if you do admit that there is no similarity between being a slut and a rapist, and that being a rapist is a different thing altoget…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 04:54 PM
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Then why did you make that comparison? It would be different if the user who you responded to said "treat every woman like a spermjacking divorceraping banshee", then that comparison would somewhat be valid. But he specified a slut, and as far as I know, slut isn't something that warrants a legal procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 04:13 PM
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Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished Yep. Fits feminism to a tee. What happened to folks like Paglia, Hoff-Sommers, and Farrell is pretty much the same. Plus, I got banned for posting a link about Roterham (on r/feminsm). The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality Yep. Once again fits feminism. But I don't see how it fits TRP. TRP doesn't have us-verus-them mentality. People who TRP considers Blue Pilled aren't considered evil or anti-TRP (what TRP considers B…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:50 AM
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Are you perhaps insinuating that being a slut is like being a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:00 AM
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Are perhaps Marxist who think that what Marx says is an accurate representation of Marxism cultish too? Are Democrats who say that what Obama says is an accurate representation of Democratic Party cultish too? And you don't understand that one can be devoted without agreeing to something, and agreeing to something without being devoted. Saying that what THE FOUNDER OF THE RED PILL SUBREDDIT is pretty much representative of the red pill school of thought is not being devoted to him. False equival…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:58 AM
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True. Still, that massive riot in Ferguson is pretty much counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 10:23 PM
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Relevant. But it's okay. We all remember that time when whites went into a riot, destroying their own cities, because OJ was released.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:02 PM
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Why do you think gender quotas exist?
/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 07:28 PM
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I call bullshit. Call it whatever you want, it won't change a thing. Men will always value a chaste woman over a slutty one for commitment. A high partner count is a trait which will always be repulsive for men. The fact that we have those statistics shows that this instinct is well placed. Bark at the Moon all you want, but nothing short of a collective lobotomy on half of the world's population will change that. YOU'RE JUST INSECURE SHITLORDS Yeah and? Why do you think this angry tone will mag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 11:05 PM
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I didn't say that X predominating in a movement = movement is biased towards X. Which is why I added : discusses which X is related to But fair point. This doesn't necessarily detract from the veracity of the ideology in question -- just something to take note of. Good. That's the heart of the manosphere. I don't particularly care if you find that terribly offensive. Again, fair enough. If that is the case. Also, remember the context: OP didn't ask why is HBD bullshit? and I responded because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 08:22 PM
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Pretty much. It's a women's special interest group -- they lobby for women, sometimes at the expense of men. Wow. Well, to be perfectly honest, I didn't expect this much of consistency. Props to you for being consistent. So you think that if X is majority within a movement/group which discusses issue which X is closely related, this movement is inherently biased in the way that it favours group X at the expense of others? I can dig that. But with HBD being an example here, as folks pointed out, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:35 PM
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Jew who started the Dark Enlightenment, not HBD. But Jews/Israelis do have a significant appreciation for HBD. As do Asians, more specifically the Chinese.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 09:28 PM
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Do you honestly believe you are who you've become simply because of your skin color? No. I am who I am because I am who I am, which includes my skin color. My skin color is as a part of me as is my ability to think rationally and solve abstract problems. Granted, skin color is not as important as the latter. But my "self", my skin color, my rational ability, my restraint in emotional matters, all come from the same thing which effectively consists the entirety of "me". The same thing which cause…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 09:26 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that HBDers are overwhelmingly white men And the fact that HBDers are overwhelmingly white men (if we exclude the Chinese to support your narrative) doesn't impact veracity of it. But let's take this argument further. You say that just because HBDers are overwhelmingly white men (if we exclude the Chinese to support your narrative), the HBD is biased from the start to give unfavourable treatment to non-Whites (excluding Asians and Jews to support your narrative) and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:24 PM
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Race realism What exactly do you mean by putting it in scare quotes? Do you deny the biological category of race or biological category of human races? Or do you think that race is "skin deep", a mere cosmetic? It's mostly angry, white dudes It was arguably started by a Jew. The same demographic which started both communism, and "cultural marxism". I would hardly consider it a "white nationalist" community. Putting aside the fact that "angry, white dudes" is a blatant ad hominem from which no ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:18 PM
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I wouldn't call it good. The less TRP overflows to, and I will use my cultural privilege to appropriate a "safe" word, toxic subreddits, the more butthurt will it generate, and in turn the more SJW (who sadly, have a significant presence on plebbit) into shutting TRP down - censorship under the guise of "hate speech". TRP won't work on rabid SJWs, much like it wouldn't work on a religious zealot. It will work for a common average man, who is not really sure of his position in the world, and who …
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 11:37 PM
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The fact that comments are negative to OP, even in 2XC, and that I see a lot of TRP lingo and some TRP posters, makes me kinda feel weird. Just saying.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 10:43 PM
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Anyone else bothered by the fact that he never answers the question of how men and women differ? He bangs on about how it's not hypocritical because men and women are 'different' somehow, but never explains that difference. I've seen 'race realists' do it too. Dancing around the question with half answers and weak analogies. For "race realists" (what a stupid term, race is real no matter how much you harp on it) there is humanbiologicaldiversity.com. For HOW MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 09:07 PM
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She has no respect for you, and that's not likely to change. Not only that, but she sounds particularly vindictive and nasty. She's purposefully trying to push your buttons in a most blatant way, and people like that are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 09:04 PM
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Oh, sorry then, I'll check that and see it. Well then, I would have to disagree with you that the criticism is because of the her intent and not her execution. Especially the comment where it says "Why do you let her talk to you like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 07:44 PM
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This is valid advice given with an honest intention of helping the person. To chalk it up with feminist conspiracy is insanity. But I would still have to disagree with it. But this applies on to when there is a conscious and rational reason for emotional detachment. When "shit test" isn't done "irrationally". Furthermore the usage of something that evokes the dread game (flirting with other men, for example) may not necessarily be something she does on purpose, and verbal communication might eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 07:05 PM
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What dictionary are you using? I don't disagree with neutral definition given in the dictionary. I disagree with how it is constantly applied. If we used neutral definition for everything, it would turn out that Hitler wasn't a real Nazi. So for any movement or a word, you look not at what it "pretends" to be, but where it came from, what it does, and with what purpose. But words are required in relationships. Most relationship experts will tell you that communication is the most important part …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 07:03 PM
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That's actually a spot on definition of the dread game. I like that. But I have a slight disagreement with the last part (both partners are capable of getting emotionally invested and want to prevent loss) - while they are capable of it (both men and women), men value physical more while women value emotional more (like that study in Hjernevask). Dread game has to be effective to be a proper dread game. What is effective for women is not witholding your emotional investment, but physical. You co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 06:45 PM
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Certainly. If she does flirt with other guys in order to make me jealous, then I would first apply dread game (depending on the emotional investment I would hold off breaking up) to see how she goes with it, then have a conversation after a few day and then decide what to do. I might have been to hard when I said that I would break up instantly, but if she did stuff that evokes my usage of "dread game" often, I would consider the LTR seriously. I'm no perfectionist when it comes to women or anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 06:37 PM
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Manipulation is gender neutral. It has a static definition. I would disagree. It doesn't matter who does what first. I don't see why you need to point fingers. Manipulation is manipulation, and it's toxic in a relationship, regardless of who starts it and who responds. And it is precisely why I dislike the redpill as a "sexual strategy". Not to mention the obnoxious PUA lingo straight out of D'n'D. But I do concede to it - some of "manipulation" women do without realizing what they're doing. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 06:19 PM
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Oh God.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 05:57 PM
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What constitutes as men being "manipulative" has changed in the same way what constitutes as men being "emotionally abusive". "Game" is manipulation the same way makeup is manipulation. Dread game is the extreme aspect where a man stops being responsive to a woman (something that he has every right to be) and flirts with other women (something he has every right to do) instead. It's the male reversal "You're not entitled to a woman's body if you give her attention" in the form of "You're not ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 04:30 PM
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Technically speaking TRP is not at least bit hypocritical. Imagine that there are two neighbouring countries, Glorious People's Democratic Republic of Artzoka and Republic of Zokart. Artzoka is a totalitarian country which openly says that it censors free speech. Zokart is a liberal democracy which prides itself on free speech. Suddenly, folks from Artzoka realize that Zokart censors free speech in the form of "hate anti liberal values" speech. They politely point that out to which Zokart respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 04:09 PM
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They called her a liar before she even told her story and held an investigation. I'd like a link before I have any further comment. The bolded part (before an investigation was held) is the one I will return to soon. She has a US senator campaigning with her. Irrelevant in determining the veracity of her claims. She has a politician campaigning with her (I dunno how this works?) is not something that makes her accusation any more valid. Politicians aren't exactly the type of people known for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 03:49 PM
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The Protomen <3 What do you think about The Megas?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 11:22 PM
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Another way to phrase the dilemma - Why do you, by default, believe that a rape victim (who has also been called out as a liar by a police officer)1 is telling the truth instead of lying? You by default assume that she is indeed a victim, and when this is questioned (as it normally should be), you consider it extremist. This is precisely the point of this thread. To question if one is a victim of rape or not has become tantamount to the very act itself. What I found disturbing is that if asked w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 10:43 PM
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And this is something that can be discussed properly without WHITE RACE MASTER RACE GAS THE KIKES stuff low-level trolls have. There is a connection between red pill, manosphere, HBD, neoreaction, and all this stuff. But not like this. On a side note, I find white supremacists (and their critics) who use IQ as a testament to white supremacy (so not relative superiority, but absolute one) a bit silly. If anything, whites are in the middle, with Asians and Jews (them being a Schroedinger race) bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/14 03:32 PM
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Now you see why I hate my generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 06:44 PM
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So basically speaking, since X crime was usually (http://departments.kings.edu/womens_history/witch/werror.html#women) committed by women and punishing crimes is just, using Y activity to explain something that is solely female, is equivalent of thinking like punishing women? I don't quite follow it. Perhaps you consider thinking in distinct gender terms to be equivalent of thinking in distinct gender crimes? For example, using your "only women can be considered sluts, the same line of thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 03:16 PM
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The evolutionary explanation is because I am made to procreate. Yeah, it's kinda sad. It's like using a conspiracy theory to validate certain large scale social shifts. You can do it, sometimes it's true, but it's just not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 01:11 AM
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Nah, it's cool. I never outright said disgust (my bad, thought I had). But there is an aversion to it. And if you want explanation to it, it's evo psych. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 12:23 AM
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Bottom line: I think it's weird that TRP people develop alpha traits JUST to get pussy. I think so-called "alpha" traits are often ones that are healthy for people in general, for their own sake. I've seen it the countless times on TRP - "Don't chase pussy for pussy's sake. Don't chase money/fitness for pussy's sake. Do it for yourself". You also demonstrate natural masculine behaviour, but you don't realize it. There really is nothing blue about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 12:12 AM
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You positioned question basically like this : "We know that you don't like sluts. Why? And don't bother using statistics or evo psych because that is not satisfactory." You essentially said "how much is 2+2, but don't say 4". You didn't ask for the motivator emotion, but what motivates the motivator emotion. You know that the motivator emotion is disgust. I told you so in my first response. And no, motivator emotion is not the root cause. Root cause causes motivator emotion. I want the "why," ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 12:09 AM
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I guess I'm fairly ambitious and confident Interesting. But I talk about emotions and feelings and shit all the time. Emotions themselves are not contra to the traditional masculinity. If you talk about your emotions and that kind of shit, but still remain ambitious and confident, that's only going to up your game. Traditional masculinity is a perfect synthesis of Alpha and Beta behaviour, in just the right percentage to make her want to fuck you, and keep you. RP behaviour is just Alpha without…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 11:25 PM
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Actually, all those blogs link to reputable and scientific sources. Even one of Legion's bundle of links links to a reputable and scientific sources. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr049.pdf "yeah, sluts shouldn't be allowed to marry. We should legally forbid it." There you go again. Seriously. I'm not saying this cause I don't like you, but because this is a poor debating tactic that will only irk the person you're responding to and make you look like an average troll. If I say X, you stre…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 11:18 PM
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I wouldn't exactly call it a selection bias seeing that she was the one who harped all about "baad gender roles, baad". Gender roles are the love child of Hitler and Stalin. But traditional masculinity and traditional femininity is the type of behaviour that is the most attractive to opposite sex. That's why some gender roles are culturally universal and when emulated, provide results. If anything TRP "proves" that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 11:05 PM
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Because they dig their hypocrisy nice and deep-fried in pseudoscience and fear. If I might for one second interest you in actual thing. My second link actually shows that there is a good reason to "fear" sluts. TRP does not fear sluts. We just don't want to marry them. They have the capacity to settle down, because they can, and do change. I have faith that we can both be understanding of each other's pasts and work our relationship around issues that may follow that, even if she remains a "slut…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 10:43 PM
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The finer print is that if a man acts like non-traditional masculine type, he will not get sex. But hey, you should be free to act like it. You're also free to punch yourself in the balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 10:34 PM
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Aren't you that guy who said that asking for a paternity test is like genital mutilation? Now you say that because TRP shames women for being sluts (?) by NOT ENGAGING THEM IN A MARRIAGE WHICH THEY DO NOT WANT ANYWAY is like the burning witches. Can you for one second go without absurd hyperboles and strawmans?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 10:33 PM
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What exactly do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 10:31 PM
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You're making these sweeping generalizations and then getting upset when I point out that they're only generalizations. Of course I make generalizations. Have I said that I do not? I defined axioms (wo/men want X/Y) which may or may not be true, but I strongly suspect that they're highly reflective of reality, and defined them in such manner that I can make the sweepiest generalization possible. But what I responded to wasn't criticism to my accusation, but rather the perceived logical discrepan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 06:56 PM
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Then you'd have to demonstrate how slut shaming is a necessarily negative practice, which it's not. To be fair, I subscribe to the idea that slut shaming is a pro civilization thing. But the moral value of slut shaming isn't what I'm discussing here. I'm discussing why BPers think TRPers slut shame when TRPers are very much slut positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 06:04 PM
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Is this your reasoning? Despite TRP being very much slut positive, you then assert that TRP are some form of Nice Guys (capitalized so we don't think that women, our special bearers of the holy vagina, somehow don't like nice guys in general), and Nice Guys shame a lot. So you tie TRP to your imaginary concept of a group of people who slut shames without any evidence. Imagine if I said that all women hate men because most of women seem to be total Feminists who hate men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:50 PM
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Because a lot of TRPers like to feel like they're classic gentleman who would totally settle down and get married if more women were amiable to the idea of getting married at a young age in modern society But actually that's pretty wrong. TRPers are against marriage 2.0 with such a person because marriage 2.0 is an unfair institution from the start. Also, I've gotten an impression that men would not want it back to marriage 1.0 (granted, I've yet to see if that's true). It's not the women, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:37 PM
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You're playing retarded on purpose. Stop that. If behaviour X causes men to stay, that's successful female behaviour and this is what MEN LIKE. BEHAVIOR THAT MAKES THEM STAY. NOT FUCK. STAY. THIS IS A BEHAVIOUR THEY LIKE SO HARD THAT THEY WILL SET ASIDE THEIR INNATE PREFERENCE TO SPINNING PLATES AND PUMP'N'DUMP RANDOM WHORES. If behaviour X doesn't cause men to stay, and only indulges in men's carnal desires, only men who act like TRPers will favour this behaviour because TRPERS DONT WANT COMMIT…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:35 PM
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C/P from another post : You complained that men do X and they don't want women who do X, X being promiscuous behaviour. You called it hypocritical. I chimed in to tell you that's wrong, as hypocrisy can only exist when you shit on thing A while you do thing B and things A and B equivalent/equal things. TRP is not hypocritical since TRP presupposes difference in sexual selection, standard, and attractive behaviour. Hence, there is no real hypocrisy or "double standard". There is only different st…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:26 PM
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I said generalize a bit, within a generalization there's also a particular subset of people who must be roughly ignored. For example, take a glass of water. You're going to say "it's in a liquid form". But technically there are always some particles that are in gaseous condition. Are you going to call a glass of water solid/liquid/gas at the same time? And plus, when I meant "like" I meant as long as the action achieves desired result within the opposite gender. If we go from "All women want com…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:21 PM
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What you said just now has no relation to what I responded to. You complained that men do X and they don't want women who do X, X being promiscuous behaviour. You called it hypocritical. I chimed in to tell you that's wrong, as hypocrisy can only exist when you shit on thing A while you do thing B and things A and B equivalent/equal things. TRP is not hypocritical since TRP presupposes difference in sexual selection, standard, and attractive behaviour. Hence, there is no real hypocrisy or "doubl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:16 PM
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The personal "why". There is no personal why - especially when you deal with something why ALL MEN don't like sluts. The personal isn't "why", it isn't question. It's action. Emotion. I don't know why I act the way I do, but I can only infer why from certain logical axioms which more or less reflect reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 03:07 PM
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My immediate thoughts? I want in on the game too. But don't put much faith in my male brain - when we see tits and asses our blood goes somewhere else so we don't think properly. Someone might say we're irrational. I would be inclined to agree with them. My next immediate thoughts when she suggests going exclusive? Uh yeah, um, no. You see, I like you as a friend and I would not want to ruin the friendship we have right now. Don't intellectualize or rationalize this. That is impossible and count…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 03:02 PM
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It's logically inconsistent to sleep around then criticize others for doing the same, completely hypocritical. No it's really not. "Equality" of genders is what you guys are all about, not what TRP is about. TRP is a sexual strategy for men, if there were no innate differences between men and women in sexual selection, TRP would not exist in the form it exists now. Think of it like this, I want to date partners who have a vagina but I myself have a penis (just checked, it's still there, no worri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 01:16 PM
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Funny thing I noticed browsing through BP comments. TRP gets flack for not communicating enough, whatever that means. But here you are, all so anxious to divorce your SO if he, God forbid, asks for a paternity test. Where's the talking and communicating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 01:56 AM
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That's the point - we always have a reasonable suspicion and you can't really help women understand it without some extravagant allegory. Certainly, you would be hurt. Hell, if I were woman, I would be hurt too. But do understand that it isn't because your man doesn't love you or trust you. It is because it is important to men and very very damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 11:45 PM
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I think we're going into personal worldview here. There is no further discussion to be had. I understand your argument (a man not confident in me is not fit for me), and you understand mine (a woman who does not want to make me genuine confident in her is not a woman who is fit for me) so our difference is rather due to personal issues. That's fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 10:39 PM
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MY WIFE IS ONLY A POTENTIAL CHEATING WHORE WHO I ONLY KEEP AROUND FOR SEX AND CHILDREN! THAT'S ALL! Yeah. There was this thread here where people calculated how it's better to have wife. Turn out, that you should only get married if you want sex and children. Oh and "love" isn't quantifiable. If all you care about is the potential that your wife, who you MUST have some form of love and trust for is going to cheat on you (you would know, YOU MARRIED HER), then I suggest you not get married What t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 10:31 PM
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There are many types of insecurities. There is a body insecurity - you're not confident enough in your looks. There is general insecurity - you're not confident enough in yourself. All those insecurities are bad if they're irrational and ill-deserved. Pushed enough it can get very bad. If a 11/10 woman thinks she's fat and ugly then this kind of insecurity is bad since it's ill-deserved and irrational. However, making sure that a child, the thing that will wreck your marriage and keep you up all…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 10:05 PM
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It's logically obvious you'd need a paternity test? In this context is there any indication your SO is cheating? If not I don't see how it's obvious. Yes? A woman knows a child is his. A man doesn't. A man can easily do so. Any marriage that boasts itself with "equality" will want to equalize these two things. And paternity is not something that's easily dismissed by emotional tantrum - FFS we have civilization because of it. I'm talking about relationships in this context. Again, the point stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 07:57 PM
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I'm going to trust you on this statistic (even though I might have something else to work with) and this statistic doesn't factor in men who don't suspect and thus don't get a paternity test for two reasons : 1) Paternity testing is, for example, banned in France. When something like this, an "equalizer" of unequal is banned and something that prides itself on "equal rights" is so strong, there is a something that must be "odd". It must be unraveled. 2) If a woman is hurt when I ask for somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 05:18 PM
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There are ways to determine you're dating someone genuine without needing to accuse her of being not genuine. Yes. There is also one GENUINE way of knowing that she is GENUINE. Hint : it's not believing every word she says. It's a paternity test. Cheating does happen, and it really sucks, but both genders do it. NOT AN EXCUSE. Yes cheating happens, and yes men do it more. But a woman's cheating has the potential to absolutely ruin a man's life for the next 18 years. I saw someone on trp CONGRATU…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 05:10 PM
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Funny thing. I would also like to draw parallels with dread game and this stuff right here. A man who is using dread game is essentially going over to the next gal and acting aloof to his SO - she is under "dread" that he will cheat on her because all the things are present here. You've got a man who's ignoring you and being near a woman you don't like (if you didn't like her before, you're going to start hating her now). But when a woman reacts emotionally to a paternity test, you've also got a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 04:35 PM
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If you love the person well enough to have an legal verification that you are going to be exclusive with them (like marriage), I feel like you should be able to trust that the person you entered a marriage with is not going to cheat you. As you say, it doesn't happen very often because, whodathunk, men AND women want to be exclusive with the people they enter the marriage with. If a reassurance that the person won't cheat (like a prenup) is REALLY necessary, then it's something that's going to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 04:19 PM
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To trust someone is to give him power to hurt you. To demand trust and using "emotional abuse" (it's misogyny when TRP calls for dread game, when a woman is angry because her SO doesn't trust her enough to make sure that the baby he is going to raise and pour money into for the next 18 years is his and decides to play "if you don't reject paternity test, you don't trust me enough" emotional games" is a normal thing) when that same trust is questioned is a huge red flag. When doubt arises then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 04:10 PM
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I find this related.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 03:55 PM
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OTOH, as a woman imagining being pregnant and my SO either demanding a test or going behind my back and finding out later...it's a dealbreaker, plain and simple. He may as well just say "I think you cheated on me, I don't trust you", and honestly I'd just dump him since I find it pretty unforgivable. Baby or no baby, it wouldn't be worth it to me to be tied down to someone who didn't trust me. Using that very same logic I could demand a complete submission of a woman, both financially and physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 03:54 PM
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Honestly, this Album of Shame is just pathetic. If we switch it over to "I love my dogs than men" then you've got yourself a U GO GRRLL moment. When the opposite side paints every man as a rapist and a criminal it's just to be on the safe side, then when the opposite side says "meh, I don't think it's worth it to chase around women anymore" then that's misogyny. Then the half of it is pulled out of context (/u/trudatness even explained that when he and his wife are drunk they get kinky, so no ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 03:49 PM
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Or the same way Jews see Nazism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 08:59 AM
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A some sort of alpha who will fuck her, and beta that will console her? Something like Alpha fucks, Beta bucks? That's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 09:15 PM
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Depends. If I'm the type of person preferring chaste girls and actively looking for a LTR, all while subscribing to the belief that a woman's marriageability and her sexual history are inversely proportional, while being "chaste" myself (not engaging in the hookup culture and not being another cock on the cock carousel), then yes, I would. If I'm the type of person who prefers chaste girls while subscribing to the belief that a woman's marriageability and her sexual history are inversely proport…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:07 PM
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Well, that pretty much settles the debate, if there was any. It's certain that rape is a horrible crime, as it's certain that people who abuse the system will be ever present. Personally, I feel that in cases of casual sex/one night stands, explicit consent is required, but in long term relationships we default to refusal of sex. Eh, casual sex/one night stands are the main problem, I'd personally go with explicit refusal, as in the heat of the moment no one actually asks consent (I don't). But …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 04:45 PM
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Feminism doesn't fail. It succeeded in what was supposed to do - separating natural allies in two distinct and bickering groups. FeminismTM is what fails by default. Feminism is a fight for women's rights and interests as much as Nationalsocialism is a fight for the rights and interests of Germans.
/r/TheRedPill18/09/14 12:56 PM
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You could apply the unfounded rape claim rate to unreported rape cases. I find it very hard to believe that there is the same percentage of unfounded rape claims in the "unprosecuted" and "prosecuted" (I'm not going to use unreported because technically we can't really apply the unreported to the statistics). It would make more sense to be a higher rate of unfounded rape claims in the "unprosecuted" section. Furthermore, rape is a unique crime. Rape is essentially sex without consent. What rape …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 12:53 PM
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Math isn't the problem here. Statistics and Bayesian probability are useless if you don't understand what they represent. If there are instances of false rape claims going not only persecuted, but punished even, why are you so certain that the unpersecuted and unpunished rape claims must necessarily be true. Unprosecuted rape claims are not necessarily true, as prosecuted rape claims are also not necessarily true. Whether the rape was persecuted or not does not necessarily answer that the actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 12:23 AM
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If there is a percentage of rape claims which turn out to be false (as in man gets legal process and gets legal punishment for a crime that he did not do) within all rapes that are processed, and this percentage is relatively high (YMMV, 2 to 9 to 40ish percent) - what makes you so certain that that the majority of those unprosecuted and dismissed rape claims are actual rapes being done instead of those false rape claims that are so badly done that there is no doubt that they are false? Furtherm…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 11:52 PM
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Social conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 06:31 AM
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First off, you were both drunk - you even moreso. Why should it be her that was raped, and not you? Secondly, did she explicitly communicate no - and by explicitly communicate I mean both verbally (saying it in a clear way) and physically (like resisting)? This is where I might go into unpopular opinion but unless explicit refusal is given, there is an unspoken consent. To clarify, imagine a woman hailing a cab. She then says "The 221B Baker Street". Cabbie then drives her there while she is sil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 08:43 PM
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If you care about "long term compatibility" why even play into "hook up" culture. Just find your wife at 21 and get on with it. Unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it too. This goes for men and women. And this is why TRP community gets shit from both sides of the spectrum. Socons are pissed at hook up culture when women do it, and pissed when men do it too. They're extra pissed when a whole community of men discusses it to the detail of TRP. Yeah, sure, there technically isn't hypocri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 08:31 PM
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