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DenverKim/r/ExRedPill12/03/26 05:14 PM
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Bingo!
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 08:42 AM
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Insecurity. Insecurity destroys these men’s brains. It makes it so that they literally can’t understand words. It makes them incapable of rational thought. Avoid these kinds of men at all costs. Their insecurity causes delusion. They are literally dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:44 AM

Do you truly not know how to show emotional investment without simultaneously making another person feel restricted? The examples you are giving a really really bad. The responses you give make you sound like a robot. Maybe even worse, like you are responding in a passive aggressive or pouty manner. Like you aren’t happy about what she’s telling you, but you aren’t gonna be open and communicate that with her, but you are going to give her the silent treatment and just shrug her off instead. I le…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:41 PM
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Uhm, no. Women have been screaming from the rooftops for generations now that men are NOT normal and they are definitely not okay. I’m not sure why this is coming as new information to you. But also, I think you need to understand that there really is no such thing as “normal“. What are you referring to as “normal“?… Are you one of those young white red pill men who thinks that the propaganda you see regarding the 1950s is what should be considered normal? Do you think that the culture and lifes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:00 PM
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Most women don’t look at men in public and instantly feel sexual attraction. Most of them just see a potential threat or at best, a potential burden. It takes a lot more than physical attraction for a woman to truly “lust“ after a man. This is something that most men refuse to understand which is why most women don’t want anything to do with most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:11 AM
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Yeah, fair enough. At the same time, women shouldn’t apologize for prioritizing money and refusing to settle for less. Why would a beautiful woman date a broke loser who can’t even afford to support the family he hopes to someday create? Why would she give up her career to have his babies? Why would she pick him over a more wealthy man when she has the choice? Love?… No. I don’t think so. You don’t get to choose women based on physical attraction and then turn around and play the victim when non…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:05 PM
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There’s truth in this on the other angle as well. Dating ugly men is a nightmare. They are usually the most insecure men, which makes them impossible to live with. Their insecurity will make your life miserable and can even become dangerous. They often have absolutely no self-confidence and no respect for themselves, which means they will have no respect for you. They think that if you are with them, then something must be wrong with you and they will treat you accordingly. It’s very rare that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:16 PM
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I’m getting really confused by the evolution of red pill talking points. On one hand, y’all act upset and victimized when a woman wants to actually get to know a man before fucking him. It’s like you think she should just hop into the sack with you right then and there… Swipe right and match on a dating app, go over to your place and have sex. Done deal. Easy peezy. But at the same time, on the other hand, you shame women for their body counts and expect them to be virginal saints. Otherwise, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:04 PM
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OK. Whatever. I, for one, would not want this man living with my wife or my daughter and I would be the one who made that decision. I would not put it on my wife and expect her to be the one to say no. But you do you.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/26 01:23 AM
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For the sake of your own family… STOP living with this man. Tell him to his face, that his beliefs are toxic, and you don’t want it around your family. Tell him that by his own red pill logic, as a grown MAN, he should be able to support his own family without having to live with his brother’s family. Expecting your wife to live with this man is wild.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/26 09:10 PM
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No. You don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:46 PM
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It kind of sounds like you are trying to make it out like men are some kind of neglected victims. But all I hear you actually saying is that men are just assholes who don’t care about anybody else. They don’t want to bother socializing with someone if they’re not going to gain something from it. Why talk to someone if they aren’t going to fuck you or give you money? Meanwhile, women will talk to each other and embrace one another just for the sake of having a community.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:46 PM
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I’d be really curious to hear what your definition of chase is… I bet it doesn’t mean what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:25 PM
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Who on earth is telling you that you are supposed to “chase“ women? No. We don’t want to be chased. If we tell you we are not interested, believe us the first time. Are you confusing “chase“ with simply putting in effort when it comes to dating? Because that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:57 AM

You are the one making it sound like a doomsday scenario. Like the only way Women will ever need you is if you remove all of their rights. Remove the legal obligation for a man to support his own family financially. The only way Women will ever respect you or need you is if you are legally allowed to financially abuse them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:39 AM

What is it with you guys and your weird little revenge fantasies? Yeah… Let’s create a completely hypothetic doomsday scenario and you’ll show those women how much they need you 😂 Or, how about men just stop creating families they don’t give a damn about and can’t support. If you simply learned to control your sperm, you’d have a lot less problems. I wouldn’t give a damn about any of that though. Only thing on that list of yours I ever used or care about is birth control. For obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:34 AM
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You do understand that the majority of the people you are talking about, both men and women, are just online grifters profiting off of your attention, right? Those women are not representative of the majority of women. Not even close. This is 2026. Anyone who can’t understand this concept is honestly just a moron at this point. Online influencing/drifting is VERY BIG BUSINESS and a lot of you all are falling right into their trap. This is such a basic concept… The more controversial, the shit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:14 PM

All these men think they are Jeff Bezos …”my assets, my assets” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:30 PM

Relationships were never about companionship, love or emotional support. That’s all Disney fairy tale garbage. You need a history lesson. Marriages were essentially financial arrangements. Women needed to get married and they often didn’t even get a say in who their husband would be. Now that women no longer need to get married, marriage CAN actually be about companionship, love and emotional support… Problem is that most men don’t know how to provide that (or don’t want to), so a lot of women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:26 PM
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So men are jackasses? Got it. There’s a male “loneliness crisis” and women don’t give AF? Got it. Women en masse choosing not to marry or reproduce with men? Got it. None of this is new info. The only problem here is that men consider themselves to simultaneously be victims. They feel entitled to love, respect, sex and loyalty without ever having to do anything to earn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:24 AM
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You’re wrong in multiple ways. You don’t “remember” anything. You probably weren’t even alive before social media. You’re just listening to what a bunch of red pill grifters are telling you. You probably also believe that people were actually happy in the 50s and that women didn’t used to actually work. First of all, it wasn’t that common for men to just randomly cold approach strange women on the street. They typically met through friends/acquaintances, at school, at church or at work. Of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:41 PM
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Gotcha… I appreciate you elaborating. That makes complete sense. I agree completely. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for a woman to expect a man to be able to wait a little bit… It’s pretty offputting when you go on one or two dates and a man is already clawing to get in your pants. But I think a lot of women are misguided when they set arbitrary boundaries and hoops to jump through in order to simply establish sexual chemistry. Like you said, I think it ensures that they are pushing away good m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:59 AM
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I’m confused. I’ve never heard that term. And I don’t understand what part of what I said makes you think that this is “red pill” for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:12 AM
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What’s FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:13 AM
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No. Sex is just as important as the other characteristics one should be looking for in a partner. Nobody is claiming that it’s the only thing that matters. But it absolutely DOES matter and trying to advise people that it doesn’t seems cruel… Literally setting them up for failure and misery. We definitely have a problem with young men’s brains and sexual psychology being broken by porn, but that’s a different conversation. And it honestly means that determining someone’s sexual mindset is even M…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:44 PM
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Dude. Have you ever even had sex with a woman? You have no clue what you are talking about. The only thing I have to put effort into as a woman is making the man orgasm and I don’t even technically need to do that most of the time, as long as he is a healthy red blooded man. It does require effort when he has melted his brain mindlessly consuming porn like it’s oxygen for the last decade of his life. But if I want to have an orgasm, it requires almost 0 effort from me. All I need is a vibrator a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:23 PM
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You’re so off base here it’s hard to even respond. Those at “the top” are not telling me to be more selective about the values of the men I date. They are actively telling me that I need to shut up, get married and pump out babies in order to save a broken economy. They are telling me the exact opposite of what you are telling me they are telling me. I am TELLING MYSELF that I will not make the same mistakes as so many of our mothers and grandmothers did. I will not sign up to live with a man or…
/r/ExRedPill22/05/26 07:01 AM
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I don’t care what Word you want to use to describe this. It literally doesn’t matter. The point is that they aren’t small issues and they should be used to determine whether or not you want to be with someone. What are you even trying to argue here? What is your point?
/r/ExRedPill21/05/26 09:33 PM
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We aren’t talking about small aspect of their nature, though. We are talking about their character, their values and their morals. I don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/26 09:31 PM
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I don’t know. I guess it takes some people a little time to truly understand the nature of others. Sometimes it feels like it’s easier to pretend like you live in a world that is the way you think it should be instead of actually living in the world the way it is in reality. It can feel good (at first) to try and see the best in people. But that’s incredibly dangerous in most cases because it prevents you from seeing who they actually are. Trust me, in the long run… It’s a lot easier to just go …
/r/ExRedPill19/05/26 08:39 AM
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This is not a new concept when it comes to human beings. Tribalism goes back throughout the entirety of human history. It really isn’t something to lose any sleep over. You can’t possibly have room or time in your life to be friends with or date every single person in the world… So it’s perfectly fine if you automatically exclude half of them (or more) immediately based on their values, their beliefs and their general outlook and attitude towards life. In fact, I highly recommend it. How else ar…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/26 04:41 AM
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Misogynistic men desperately clinging to the patriarchy expect female “submission“, but have never had and never will have any interest in solving female specific issues or even recognizing them. There… I fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:38 AM
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You are so wrong in so many different ways. The “sensitive men“ who know how to actually take women’s feedback understand that all women are asking is for men to learn how to take no for an answer and to stop being obnoxious creeps. These men simply continue to approach women with a little bit of class and go on with their lives like normal human beings if she’s not interested. It’s not that hard. The only men who have stopped approaching women over this are the men the women didn’t want approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:51 AM
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Sorry, dude, but the way I view it, most men ARE absolutely “ignoring that”. What’s worse is that not only are a lot of them blind to the political realities of it all, but they are actively voting to make it much much worse. Not better. On one hand, they will complain because women aren’t feminine anymore. Women don’t want to have children. They will complain because they can’t find a woman willing to be with them. But instead of looking at the reasons, why a lot of this is occurring, they just…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:24 PM
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“The liberation” was never supposed to cause harmonious relationships. That was never the stated goal of feminism. Only equal rights. Leverage, necessity and power imbalance is absolutely not gone. It’s worse than it ever has been. The problem is that a lot of of you guys see things purely based on gender. It’s absolutely wild and foolish. This hyper individualism you speak of is not caused mostly by gender dynamics… It’s caused by a civilization that puts profits over people in every possible w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:47 AM
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Those women, declaring themselves as “strong independent women“ are doing this in an effort to distance themselves from certain types of men. To communicate that unlike women of the past, they don’t need to have a man in their life just for the sake of having a man in their life. They can pay their own rent, buy their own food and do everything else a man can do. They might want a man in their life, but they don’t need one. The only men who are offended by this notion are weak, undesirable men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:35 AM
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Men who choose not to have children or get married are not automatically hated (certainly no more than the women who make the same choices). But men who get on the internet and ramble on and on with red pill talking points and the need for MGTOW and becoming passport bros, are hated. See the difference? ESPECIALLY considering the current state of affairs in the world… With the climate, the economy, and the very clear path we are heading down… THAT is the reason most people are remaining single a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:27 PM
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Men who choose not to have children or get married are not called misogynists. Men who get on the internet and ramble on and on with red pill talking points and the need for MGTOW, are misogynists. See the difference? ESPECIALLY considering the current state of affairs in the world… With the climate, the economy, and the very clear path we are heading down… THAT is the reason most people are remaining single and refusing to have children. But when men conflate all of the very, very real problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:25 PM
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I very much get that impression from him. He might not outright say it, but he is saying that he “built a life” in order to attract a woman, and now that he has done that, he doesn’t want a woman because he wants a peaceful life instead. At some point when he was younger, he stumbled upon red pill advice that told him no woman was going to want him while he was still working towards these goals. He believes that it would not have been possible to find a woman who was also working to build her li…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:21 PM
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Yes. I do. Which is why women who are out there doing it themselves want men who can do the same. For those women, it’s a low bar to set… especially when looking for a man who is going to hopefully be the father of her children and be able to take care of a family if she needs to stop working to give birth to his kids at some point. This is symbolic of the overall bigger picture when it comes to men who are enraged at women and engaging with these gender war talking points… They constantly go on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:15 PM
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Nah. This guy shouldn’t date. He’ll be in for a very rude awakening. A 30-year-old man thinking that he is somehow elevated above others because he has hobbies, a job and a home is setting a pretty low bar for himself. Now that he has these basic fundamentals of life “mastered“, he thinks he’s above dating… It’s too much effort for him to even bother dating because a woman could never provide him with any benefits that he can’t provide himself. This man should stick to his original plan and rema…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:58 PM
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Dude, what are you even talking about? Who is “blaming you” for deciding to stay single? Who cares? Seriously… Who cares? You decided to take a decade of your life so that you could get a job, learn some hobbies and put a roof over your head. Now that you have these basic things required to just kind of live life, you’ve decided that you want to stay single. Congratulations. Again, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:49 PM
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If you want to talk about “fascinating“, you should try doing the same type of analysis when it comes to the behavior and expectations of the average man. He wants a “good“ woman who will be submissive, who will cook and clean and have his babies. She needs to be pure and clean. She needs to simply be “like an animal“ (as you put it) and be able to carry and give birth to his children, and then raise them and cook for them and clean for them and take care of the grown man as well… But in the mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:20 AM
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These men just simply can’t see and acknowledge the truth… that the vast majority of those women who end up single and childfree are going to be much much better off because of it. The men seem to think it is a threat while most of these women are nodding their heads and saying, “yeah, that’s the plan“. Mentally, physically, financially… Women stand to benefit far more when they choose not to get married and not to have children. Taking on the responsibility of having a man and a child to care f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:37 AM
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Are you talking about teenagers? Children? Or grown adult women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:39 PM
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Women are not the ones lying to men about what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:46 AM
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No. It doesn’t happen. This dude is just making stuff up. Probably doesn’t even know any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:45 AM
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I do not believe you. I do not believe you have consistently seen a significant number of women complain about this. You’ve probably heard a bunch of red pill men online rage bait and claim to have seen this… But in reality, none of you actually have. It’s not a thing. At least not on any significant level. Your entire premise is just nonsense and you sound like a crazy person yelling at the clouds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:20 PM
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You still aren’t understanding the point. Jesus Christ. The entire premise… Everything you’re saying is just wrong. Women are not complaining because men don’t feel obligated to be in relationships with them after they hook up. They are complaining because the men literally lied to them. Why the hell are you not able to comprehend this and respond to what I’m actually saying? THE THING YOU THINK WOMEN ARE UPSET ABOUT IS NOT THE THING THEY ARE UPSET ABOUT.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:03 PM
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So I see that we are having a reading comprehension problem here. What you were essentially trying to claim is that women feel automatically entitled to a relationship and that a man is under no obligation to state whether or not he wants a relationship. I am disregarding your narrative because it’s not based in truth. Women are not upset because men are choosing to just not tell them they don’t want relationships. They are upset because men are literally lying to their faces about it. The entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 08:50 PM
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What are you talking about? That’s not a strawman argument. I’m literally arguing against what you wrote. I’m rejecting your entire narrative. Women are complaining because the man just chooses to omit the fact that he didn’t want a relationship with them. They are complaining because he directly and literally lies about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:35 PM
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What women are calling out is when men lie to them in order to get them in bed. Men will knowingly lie and say that they actually want a relationship with a woman, and they will act accordingly as well. Not only through their words, but also through their actions… They lie in order to manipulate women into sleeping with them and then just disappear on them. Are you actually trying to argue that this behavior is acceptable and that women shouldn’t feel entitled to honesty from someone they are ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:26 PM

“Females” are human beings. There’s an infinite number of reasons why they do what they do and they all do different stuff for different reasons… because they are people and people are different. So yes. Some women will absolutely post nonsense comments on the Internet, just for the likes, the attention, the validation, the dopamine, etc. I already made a separate comment discussing and acknowledging that even on real life, a lot of women tell people what they think they want to hear. They are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:23 PM

Dude, do you even understand how the Internet works? A lot of people, and I mean, MOST people say whatever they think other people want to hear… Whatever is going to get them the most clicks and likes. A woman telling you that you are ugly in the comments section online is going to get lots of down votes and negative attention. A woman telling you positive and uplifting nonsense is going to get all kinds of positive praise regardless of whether it’s true or not. It gives her a dopamine hit or a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:50 PM

Women do this all the time online. They do it more to women than they do to men if we are being honest. It’s why I hardly ever bother with any of the women dominated groups online. They lie to each other and gas each other up to make each other feel good. It’s a weird form of virtue signaling or something… I don’t know exactly why they do it, but I have theories. The point is that they don’t just do this to men. They do this to everyone. A lot of these women are extremely sensitive emotionally. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:28 PM

You realize that a woman straight up telling a man to his face that he’s unattractive could literally get her killed, right? Do you understand that there is a large percentage of men out there who do not respond well at all to honesty? Especially if it involves them also being rejected at the time. I think this is a ridiculous question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:18 PM

We are not in agreement. You literally responded to my comment by saying that “none of that is true”. And you were actually trying to make the insane claim that laws meant to subjugate and oppress women were actually put in place in order to “protect“ women. Absolute nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:05 AM

Dude, WTF are you even talking about? YOU are the one that is making the past sound like some kind of caricature. You are talking as though men and women are completely different species. Men don’t need women and women don’t need men. People need people. It’s that simple. You guys attempting to boil everything down to gendered stereotypes is insane. The reason people are miserable these days is not because of some nonsense war between men and women. It’s because we are living in a society that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:37 AM

Men did not need women in the same way. They did not need them in order to own property, have a bank account or function as normal human beings in society. Men were not considered property. At least not solely based on their gender alone. They “needed“ a woman to give birth to their offspring if that’s what they wanted. And nothing else. And they didn’t even need her to consent in a lot of cases. Either way, this is the year 2026 and neither gender needs the other one anymore. But many still wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:18 PM

I literally don’t even know what your point is. Are you saying that they should be getting help from other men instead of expecting women to fix their problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:57 PM

They want someone who “listens” and doesn’t try to “correct them”? No. Absolutely not. I don’t care what they want. They NEED professional help. They don’t need a random woman to just sit and listen to their twisted nonsense while she smiles and nods and mindlessly agrees with all the lies and red pill propaganda that come pouring out of their mouths. They may want to be coddled like little toddlers, but that’s not what they need. That’s not the job of random women. That’s not even a safe thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:17 AM
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Physical appearance. Charisma. Pheromones. And confidence. Seems pretty obvious. It’s the same way there are some women who are just man magnets… There is something about them that just attracts men no matter where they go. But most women don’t just give up on dating because they feel like they aren’t the absolute most desired woman in the room. They understand that they are seeking quality and not quantity when it comes to the attention of men. I’m not sure why men have such a hard time figurin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:01 PM

Some people win the lottery as well. Does that mean that you’re gonna quit your job tomorrow and quit working because some people win the lottery so that means you think that you will too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:55 PM
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Well, I think if most men are going to these dating events expecting groups of women to fawn all over them, then they are going to be disappointed. That’s just an unreasonable expectation. It’s actually pretty immature to even want this. Not every man can be the coolest guy in the room. If they are going with the intention to practice their social skills, speak to actual women like they are actual human beings and put themselves in a position where they might have a chance of meeting someone in …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:59 PM
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I meant to say “junior high dance”. Middle school. Awkward social events where kids attempt to learn how to socialize with the opposite sex. It’s a common stereotype that most of the boys are too afraid to ask a girl to dance, so they just sit off in the corner, sulking alone or spend the whole time hanging out with their boys. Simultaneously, the girls are sulking in the corner, feeling devastated because no boys asked them to dance. Something tells me something similar is going on at some of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:02 AM
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OP is claiming that hardly any men even go to these events. Are you saying that the men who do actually muster up the courage to go to these events end up having several women “vying” for their attention because they’re outnumbered by women? … Or are you saying that OP is mistaken and that a lot of men actually do go to these events and still end up being left on the sidelines like it’s a junior high and they are too shy to actually mingle with anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:59 AM
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How are you saying on one hand that men do the majority of the work when it comes to dating, but then on the other hand, you are saying that men won’t even bother to show up to dating events because they automatically assume that all of the women are just going to go for the hottest guy anyways. It kind of makes it sound like men aren’t actually trying at all… It kind of makes it sound like they’ve given up before they’ve even started in a lot of cases. Kind of like if they can’t just sit on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:34 PM
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The real fun part, at least in America, is watching them mindlessly vote for and support politicians who are making their lives even more difficult. The “family first“ party is anything but family first. They are corporations and profit first over everything else. They will continue to make it harder and harder for a man to even have a chance at being able to support a family. And these men just keep voting for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:42 PM
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The problem these men have is that they can’t find a woman who wants them, so they need a woman who needs them. In a world where women don’t need men, they can’t get a woman. It really is that simple. The super twisted part is that most of them can’t even provide for themselves most of the time, let alone a woman or a family. The bottom line and sad truth is that any man who wants women to “need” men is simply suffering from major insecurity. It’s a skill issue. He needs women to be subservient …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:19 PM
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Your words make no sense. I understand that you were attempting to explain your endgame, but you didn’t make any sense when you did it. Legit… I know this is Reddit, but I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen someone use so many words to stay absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:23 PM
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No. That’s not what it means. You might have heard it misused online, but it is generally meant to refer to a woman who goes out of her way to insult other woman and put them down in order to make herself look more appealing. See: pearly things You’re referring to male centered women… Obviously the two of these can overlap on a venn diagram, but they are not the same thing. Women don’t typically hate other women for loving their boyfriends and treating them well… They hate other women who attemp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:21 PM
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wtf are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:16 PM
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If a lot of you guys had your way, women wouldn’t have rights either. They would go back to being considered property. Every time a red pill guy uses the term “feminism“ as though it’s a dirty word, you continue to prove your desired end game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:08 PM
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You don’t seem to understand what “pick me” even means. And you are wrong about your assessment either way… Most men will happily treat a woman like a doormat if she lets him. Obviously, everyone (both men and women) want their partners to treat them well and with respect. This should be mutual, it should go both ways. But when a woman allows a man to disrespect her, does everything for him while expecting nothing in return and allows him to consistently treat her like garbage, then he is almost…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:06 PM
23

I don’t think you love him. I think you love who you thought he was. And that person no longer exists. You need to look at who he actually is with eyes and ears wide open and choose very wisely. You are still young, but you won’t be for much longer. The whole reason we date when we are young is to find the right person, not to settle down with the first person we end up with. You still have time to do that, but only if you choose to move on from this one. Do not allow sunk cost fallacy to keep y…
/r/ExRedPill29/04/26 07:52 PM

wtf are you talking about? I literally already mentioned that women can use men as well. But in reality, women aren’t typically lying to men about their libidos, marrying them, having children with them, and then just suddenly pulling the sex back because they were faking wanting to have sex with them the whole time to intentionally trap him. They typically do this because they lose sexual attraction to the man because they are now taking on the role of being not only his children’s mother but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:58 PM
3

If a woman told you that she wanted a relationship with you, acted super affectionate and kind and told you she would be loyal to you and be with no other man… she basically pretended to be your girlfriend. And then you bought her some nice gifts, spent a ton of money taking her out on fancy dates and maybe even helped her cover some bills she was behind on… And then as soon as she got the money she wanted out of you, she just dipped out and never spoke to you again… How would you feel? Would yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:29 PM
1

I think that most women suffer the consequences of the actions of “the few men” that are dangerous far far more than any men do. I think that any man who looks at the harmful behavior some men exhibit towards women and thinks to themselves, “I wish they would stop harming women because they’re making things harder on me“ is part of the problem. I also think you are underestimating how many men there are out there who do this stuff. My God, look at the news just the last few weeks alone… and all …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:14 PM
0

You’re acting like that’s all red pill is saying when it isn’t. What you are talking about here specifically is just human nature. Women want to date men they are attracted to. The same way men want to date women they are attracted to. There’s nothing enlightened or even interesting in pointing this basic common sense fact out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:31 AM
4

This is nonsense. Absolute garbage. Men can absolutely choose to put down the video games, leave their homes, go make friends, build communities and find peace. What you are talking about is sex. A woman can install an app and get laid in five minutes, yes. But that does absolutely nothing to quench her loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:55 AM
2

Exactly. There honestly is nothing that women can do to help men who have fallen into this mindset. They have to help each other at this point. They will not listen to us at all. They don’t want help, they don’t want companionship, they want absolute control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:47 AM
5

No, it’s not. It’s just honest. Trust me… I have plenty of fair criticism towards my own gender as well. I am not pink pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:45 AM
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Let me be more clear. You are delusional if you think that loneliness is a male specific experience. It demonstrates the problem with a lot of you red pill men… You do not view women as human beings. It literally is that simple. And because you don’t view women as human beings, you will always be lonely… Even if you managed to find a woman who will put up with you. You will still be lonely because you won’t even view her as a human human being. Fortunately, not all men feel this way. This is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:27 PM
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wtf are you talking about? So, you’re agreeing that it’s delusional to say that only men experience loneliness? You can’t even stay on subject long enough to make a coherent point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:20 PM
4

I used to have a ton of empathy for these types of men. But the more and more I hear them talk about it and the more and more I observe their behavior in the real world and hear them offer their “solutions“, the less and less empathy I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:17 PM
13

That’s delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:11 PM
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Yeah, except the difference in this scenario is one side who’s trying to play the victim is desperately begging “their villain” to have sex with them, take care of them, love them, pay attention to them, cook for them, clean for them and give them children. The other side who is “trying to play the victim“ is pretty much just asking the other side to stop harming them and leave them alone at this point. One side has realized that life is easier without the other and that they are often victimize…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:26 PM
24

To see what what looks like? To be told that your fears, concerns and struggles aren’t valid? I’m a woman… None of that is new to me. It’s just new to men because they are losing a slight edge when it comes to their dominance over society. Women never had it in the first place. We’ve always been told that we were ridiculous, hysterical, dramatic, etc. Welcome to the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:05 PM
5

No. When you listen to these men ramble enough and you just let them talk and give themselves enough rope to hang themselves with, their solution is always essentially the same… Women should just freely give them sex. BUT ONLY THEM. No other men. They shouldn’t have to pay for it, they shouldn’t have to work for it, they shouldn’t have to earn it in any way. A woman should just automatically love them because they are little princes who were born perfect and are automatically deserving of female…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:33 PM
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I think that’s because of the pathetic tone that a lot of men are taking on the Internet these days. They are so desperately trying to make themselves out to be victims that it just becomes a bit ridiculous at a certain point. Most of the problems you are complaining about are not gendered problems… They’re just human problems. Loneliness?… Do you think women these days aren’t lonely? Manipulated?… You think women aren’t constantly manipulated by men when it comes to dating? Rejection?… You thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:24 PM
9

You being 35 and only attracting one girlfriend in your life is not because the average woman doesn’t find the average man attractive. It’s because, as you have already acknowledged, YOU don’t approach or have conversations with women you don’t know. Those studies are very flawed. They aren’t even studies. It’s just data gathered from corporate dating apps. It completely leaves out all of the women who are not on dating apps… Which is a shit ton of women. And obviously, when you just hand a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:40 PM
-1

This is nonsense. And as an anti-therapy dude, you should not be attempting to use therapy speak. You clearly don’t even know what gaslighting even means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:31 PM
1

Life is absolutely not like high school dude. And even in high school, all the women did not flock to the jocks. I don’t know where you went to high school, but at my high school, there were girls who were nerds, stoners/skaters, preppies, goths, jocks, etc. There were dozens of different cliques at my high school and they all consisted of both girls and boys and they all got together. The cheerleaders flocked to the football players… But that does not mean that all the girls did. A lot of the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:55 PM
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The same applies to men. They have no idea who the average woman is either. They see cherry picked manosphere street interviews with drunk chicks in Miami or Instagram influencers posting fake lives for clicks and likes and believe that’s the average woman. Most people who spend too much time on the Internet don’t actually have a clue how people in the real world operate. It literally breaks their brains. Newsflash dude… That woman you were listening to on Instagram or TikTok ranting about men… …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:24 PM
1

Care to cite your sources on those “facts“?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:51 PM

I can agree with you that this is how men actually feel about it. But I can tell you that it’s delusional. As a woman who has engaged with a fair amount of casual sex, I can tell you that just because I choose to engage in casual sex with a man, does not mean I find him exceptionally attractive. There is a basic bar you have to meet in order for me to find you attractive enough to either be in a relationship with or sleep with. If you make this very basic bar, which honestly 70% of men do, and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:25 PM
1

Absolutely nothing you said here is true. You meant to say, “some women“… Not most women. Where are you even getting this from? Most women absolutely hate rejecting men… A lot of the time, because they don’t want to hurt someone’s feelings unnecessarily. Other times, because it can be very scary to do so. And women in a lot of cases are more sexual than most men think they are in general… But most women are absolutely not more sexual than men. This is just an absolutely ridiculous claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:05 PM
2

What’s worse is that these days, the men won’t even bounce a lot of the time… They will just hang around being lazy drains, dragging down their own children and the mother of their children. They don’t even have the common courtesy to just leave… They stick around siphoning all the resources and energy they can until she finally has to kick him out or move herself and her children out of the house. Then, he turns around and plays the victim. It’s actually hilarious. NotAllMen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:27 PM
5

Genuine question… you had a wife and children in this scenario? All you wanted to do was come home and sit on your ass and watch a movie because you had been working all day? But she had to nag you and nag you and nag you to get you to do “chores“? Was she also working as well? Did she get to come home and just sit on her ass and watch a movie at the end of the day? Or was she expected to go out into the world and earn an income and work full-time and still come home and take care of the kids an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:05 AM
5

I think you desperately need both a history and a sociology lesson. What do you even know about gender relations in pre-Roman empire times?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:12 AM
6

Tell me specifically… Pretend like you are a woman in the early stages of dating a man. What are the red flags and what are the green flags that women should be looking for? I mean specifically and literally …what are the flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:09 AM
2

Guys like you show that you don’t actually understand most of these men at all. You don’t understand it because you’ve never had to date them, marry them or raise children with them. They don’t act like losers in the beginning. They put on a mask and they act like decent respectable men. But gradually overtime, they become different people. It varies, depending on the man, of course, but they often become depressed, lazy, entitled, unfaithful, abusive, neglectful or any of all of the above. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:07 AM
1

Yes. And that is where we are heading. And nobody is going to give a damn about the birth rate and men are not going to be given artificial wombs to inseminate and spawn their own “legacies“. Both men and women are disposable to society, just in different ways and for different reasons. OP’s premise that women are somehow treated as more valuable because they are the incubators is just absolutely absurd. Completely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:14 AM
1

This would be a societal reset, but barely. We’ve already seen this done on a much lower level when it comes to our handling of the “war on drugs“. We have proven that all we need to do is create a “moral panic” and we will justify throwing people in prison and locking away the key despite the fact that they have never harmed another human being. I think what you mean to say is societal collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 05:43 AM
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No American men have “had to” go die in war for over 50 years now. The men who join the military now are typically doing it because it is the most realistic way for them to escape poverty, get an education and have a chance at homeownership and career advancement. This opportunity will no longer be available to them once we no longer need human soldiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 05:37 AM
2

I don’t think this is the way it’s going to go. I think the people who are freaking out about the declining birth rates are living in the past… They are mentally stuck in a world that no longer exists. We are going to need less people soon, not more. We cannot sustain a population that does nothing but grow and grow and grow. We eventually need it to reduce. We will have less jobs, not more jobs. We have housing shortages, not surplus. The same will apply to both water and food as the climate co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:55 AM
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Never going to happen. At least not within the timeframe that any of you guys are going to be able to have babies. This will be a technology only available to the wealthy/elite. And nobody is going to step in and just give you an income. At the rate we are heading, it is more likely that people will just be thrown into prisons and euthanized than they will be given an income. Especially if these men continue to vote for Republicans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:28 PM
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Men are not just randomly assigned to be soldiers and take on crappy jobs because they are viewed as replaceable… They choose to do this because it’s the only skill that they offer. They often view reading and education to be a “feminine“ thing and they don’t want to put effort into that, so they voluntarily sign up for these jobs. It’s obviously not exactly the same, but it is similar to when women choose prostitution. They choose it because they feel like it is their only option to make money …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:46 PM
2

I don’t think this is necessary. I think the apps should just shadow ban anyone who likes every profile. Or maybe limit people to only liking 10 profiles a day or something. Likes should have to mean something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:06 AM
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Sex. It’s that simple. (they like to refer to loneliness, but it’s just sex)
/r/ExRedPill07/04/26 09:21 PM
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Men are often criticized over women because it is the men who have the orgasm and then just stop because they are done and don’t care about the pleasure of the woman. Once he gets what he wants, he’s done. That is what men are criticized for. And it’s not all men, but it is common enough that a lot of women have come to believe but it is all men. And it’s a huge reason why a lot of women stop sleeping with their husbands. They no longer want to have sex with him because he doesn’t make her cum. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:23 PM
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Thanks, but I’m not actually going through any of that. I realize that the way I wrote it could be confusing… I should’ve put those “my husband“ things in quotation marks. I wasn’t saying that I was personally going through that, I was referring to when other people say things like that… I don’t care what anybody’s excuse is. I won’t accept it. Which is why, thankfully, I’m not going through any of that. Never again.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/26 11:20 AM
2

I’m very sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, if it hasn’t already, there might come a time in your life when you’re no longer able to have your brother as an active part of your life.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/26 11:14 AM
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That old cliché saying, “hurt people hurt people“ is very very much true. This is why I do not give people passes for their behavior because of their mental health problems or childhood issues. We’ve all got issues. It’s up to us to control how those issues affect those around us and if someone cannot do that, then I will not be around them. A lot of people will say that “it’s not their fault”… my husband treats me like crap and is a possessive asshole because he has abandonment issues from his …
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 04:37 PM
2

Yeah, that’s what I meant. 20% of men don’t leave their wives… But 20% of men whose wives get sick do. When you strip away the sickness factor, the number drops to 8% to 13%. I don’t think this is exactly a favorable statistic for men… The fact that they are more likely to leave their wife when she is sick than when she is well. The number of women in general who leave their husbands is much higher, but they aren’t leaving because he got sick. I can understand how you could misunderstand what I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:20 PM
1

I’m not saying that a woman “should” leave her husband when he gets old or sick, I’m saying that it can be a good deal for her if she does. It’s approximately 20% of men that leave their wives when they get cancer or something and only 2.9% of women who leave their husbands. A lot of women are finally figuring this out and are now willing to go back to the old days of just marrying a man for the initial benefits… Difference between the old days and now is that she can easily leave him when those…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:13 AM
3

This comment had me thinking about something I hadn’t thought of before… If the hypothetical situation you mentioned actually were to happen, the responses would be completely different, depending on which gender was affected. I truly do believe that if a virus were to wipe out half of the male population on earth, the leftover men would rejoice at their newfound “desirability“ and have little concern for the men who perished because they really don’t care that much about other men. Women would …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:20 PM

I think it has something to do with them not wanting to regulate capitalism because they have convinced themselves that someday they might become wealthy… But they don’t mind the idea of regulating women because they know that they will never become women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:13 PM

This isn’t 100% on topic, but it is related. I will never understand why the same people who will adamantly defend unregulated capitalism are often the same people who complain that the dating “market“ is cooked and it’s “not fair“. It’s the exact same as our society as a whole… Those born into our economy with wealth, status and privilege automatically win the game with very little effort required and they are able to make constant mistakes that they will inevitably be forgiven for. Those born …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:34 AM
2

Yeah, I already very clearly said that “most women” absolutely don’t do this. My point wasn’t that it’s a common thing, my point was that an age gap relationships can be a very good deal for women… in specific situations. But I will also say that you probably don’t see it happening yourself, because you probably don’t have a lot of wealthy friends. If you hung out with rich old men, I think you would see it a lot more often. I guess my point is that I find it super naïve when people look at a 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:44 PM
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Seriously. I’m just hoping that this poor woman lives a long and happy life never truly knowing how big of a bullet she dodged.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/26 01:27 PM
2

Yes, thank you for pointing that out… But I thought it was already pretty obvious that I was saying, in this scenario, the woman doesn’t actually love this man. That was kind of the entire point. Also, when it comes to foreign women versus American women, I think you might be underestimating how bad things are getting financially for a lot of Americans these days. We may not have fallen to the level of a Third World country yet, but believe me… We are on our way. If you can’t understand why a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:44 PM
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I’ll be curious to hear what she has to say about that when she’s your age and you are nearly 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:57 PM
2

That’s not an age gap relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:55 PM
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Age gap relationships can be a great deal for women …But only certain types of women. If she gets with him when she is like 20 and he supports her while she gets her education or covers the bills while she uses her own income to invest (see: compounding interest)… they have a kid or two and then she leaves him once the kids are self sufficient and he is old… She ends up with some grown kids, financial security, debt free, likely a home owner, and she has her freedom… And she’s still only like 35…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:39 PM
2

I’m with you on the kids, but leave the pets out of this. They’re perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:47 PM
0

You are the one who is not arguing in good faith. Men like you try to villainize all women when you know damn good and well that the vast majority of women just want to be free to live with the same rights as you men. It is literally the most American thing there is. Yet you sit here trying to convince others than women gaining their freedoms is somehow harmful to men. You are too stubborn and entitled to even acknowledge basic cumin sense… that feminism is not what’s harming men… This specific …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:34 PM
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I’m not moving the goal post. I just don’t believe that you have demonstrated that men in general have been significantly harmed by feminism. I think your points are incredibly weak to the point of being pathetic. I think you could cherry pick a few individual men who can claim harm by some flawed policies… But not by feminism in general and not at a significant scale. I think this is a very weak minded argument, and I think that you know that. Any man who would claim to be against feminism beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:02 PM
-1

Your examples are very, very weak. The Duluth model is flawed, but it was not only implemented by feminists… Men were involved in that as well. And it has been criticized by feminist as well. It’s not even a law… It’s just a framework developed 40 years ago that individual cities, counties, or agencies can use (or ignore) as part of their policies. If your local law enforcement is implementing the Duluth model, then I suggest you bring it up with your local government… Not feminists as a whole. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:21 PM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:50 PM
1

But what makes it actually funny is that they aren’t actually even on the receiving end of anything. They are STILL in power. But give them just a small taste of equality and they think it’s oppression and snap like a twig. It’s insane how truly fragile they are proving themselves to be. So very weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:49 PM
1

You’re unhinged dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:45 PM
1

You are so delusional. Women are not “doing anything” to men… They are not trying to “get back“ at them. You guys can blame DEI programs all you want, but the statistics are clear… Men are failing in nearly every metric there is and it’s not because of DEI policies. It’s because so many of them are lazy, entitled, emotionally unstable, and they take much much longer to mature than women do, so now that women are receiving the same opportunities for education, the women are leaving them behind an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:06 PM
1

This is childish nonsense. Women are simply asking men to take no for an answer the first time she says no and not be creepy. If that makes you as a man to afraid to so much to speak to a woman, that’s your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:16 AM
1

Feminism is what has made it harder for you to get a woman? Women having equal rights means you can’t find a woman? That’s an interesting take. It’s almost like you need women to be forced to being with you… Almost like you need them to need you and don’t even care if they actually love you or want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:14 AM
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That’s interesting… Most brain dead Americans you’ll hear talk about it (as well as other people claiming DEI is a significant issue in the grand scheme of things in 2026) claimed that they specifically didn’t vote for Kamala Harris because of her support for DEI policies. Even though they couldn’t name a single DEI policy, she ran on. According to them, the buck stops with the President of the United States and electing him (again) was going to magically fix our culture and make America great a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:12 AM

Yeah, no shit. That’s because most women don’t expect you to “roll out the red carpet“ on a first date. But if you intentionally put in as a little effort as possible, then you are going to turn her off… She’s just going to think you are a lazy thoughtless man who will only treat her worse with time. By effort, I mean actually investing your time in talking to her, spending time with her, treating her like a human being, making her feel good about herself by showing your interest in her… And yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:57 AM
-2

Isn’t that all over with now? Didn’t Trump make America great again already?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:05 AM
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The entire purpose of life is whatever you want it to be. Plenty of people do not have children, and they lead perfectly happy lives. There is no shortage of human beings in this planet and no lack of genes in the gene pool. The world will go on exactly the same with or without your DNA being propagated. Human beings are more than just mindless cancer cells… We have a greater purpose than to just spread and spread and spread. We get to determine that purpose for ourselves. It’s one of the things…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:41 PM
11

Get mental help and realize that there’s more to life than just being physically attractive to the opposite gender. That would be a nice start.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:22 PM
11

What does that have to do with someone falling into red pill? Just because someone’s partner doesn’t find them attractive does not mean they have to become a red pill weirdo
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:15 PM
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There are tons of ugly unhappy people out there who do not lower themselves by subscribing to red pill ideology. WTF are you even taking about?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:33 PM
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Get them off of social media and into the real world.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 05:43 PM
8

But this conversation was about NOT wanting a traditionally masculine man. That doesn’t automatically mean that he’s getting fucked in the ass. You have serious issues, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:40 PM
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Just because a man doesn’t want to be fucked in the ass by another man does not mean he is a “traditionally masculine” man. I don’t think you even know what these words mean at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:36 PM
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wtf, dude? Are you saying that any man who doesn’t want to be fucked in the ass by another dude is automatically obsessed with being a traditionally masculine man? What the hell is going on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:17 PM
6

But the comment I was initially responding to was claiming that all men do is give in a relationship and all women do is take. I think maybe you jumped in the middle of the conversation and are trying to have a different conversation out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:11 PM
5

⁠Having to worry a lot more about being falsely accused of sexual assault or sexual harassment So you prefer the good old days where women weren’t listened to, and weren’t able to attempt to seek justice or protection when they were assaulted or harassed? Have you personally ever been falsely accused and punished for assault or harassment? Or is this just something you’ve heard about happening online, so you assume it’s a common thing? ⁠Being denied job opportunities due to preferential treatmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:36 PM
5

You didn’t answer that question. I can see you are having a hard time with this… So I’ll repeat my main question again… You didn’t answer this one either… “You said that leftists want men to give up their own benefits without getting anything in return. What benefits were men asked to give up when it comes to feminism?” You clearly have no answer, because you know that this is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:24 PM
3

Reread my questions. You did not answer them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:06 PM

I actually do want men and women to both get the same things out of relationships… Love and respect. Companionship and security. YOU were the one saying that men are just in relationships with women in order to get sex and validation. I didn’t say that. You did. And based on my observations, the vast majority of women do provide love, respect, companionship, and security to the men they choose to be in relationships with. If that isn’t something you have experienced yourself, then I’m sorry… But…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:23 PM
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Did you just follow me over here from a different conversation and randomly start debating with me in the middle of this conversation? Are you even attempting to respond to my comment in the context of this conversation, or just coming in swinging blind? You are literally proving my point. Men DO get something out of being in a relationship with a woman… Otherwise, they wouldn’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:01 PM
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So then he does get something out of it? You’re saying that women want to be in relationships with men because they want to go on dates, spend time with him, feel loved and cared for and do fun things together? And men want to be in a relationship so they can have easy consistent sex (a cum dumpster, as many of you call it) and show a woman off as though she were a trophy put on earth to validate him as a man? And women are somehow the problem in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:47 PM
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Nothing I said indicates that I don’t believe that women’s (or men’s) sexuality can be influenced by culture. What I’m trying to explain to you is that their mom’s typically did the same thing at the same rates… You just didn’t hear about it. And OP‘s anecdotal experience does not indicate a greater trend… It’s just his limited experience. Are you seriously probably like 17 years old trying to comment on what women were into sexually 30 years ago. You don’t seem to have a clue what you are talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:42 PM
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So you are saying that these men don’t get any benefits from being in a relationship with a woman… All they do is give and give and get nothing in return. Yet they choose to stay in these relationships simply out of the fear of being alone? You seriously think this is a common theme for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:32 PM
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What? That’s not what I said. Seriously… How old are you? Is this that reading comprehension problem I’m hearing all the kids are having these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:19 PM
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Eww. That explains alot. And you did say that, and you are refusing to answer my questions because you can’t… Because you know you don’t have a leg to stand on. Your post is literal nonsense and you can’t back up your own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:13 PM
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You said that leftists want men to give up their own benefits without getting anything in return. What benefits were men asked to give up when it comes to feminism?… All I seem to observe is men actually gaining benefits from it. And you are acting as though the fact that women wanted/deserved the same LEGAL protections that men have when it comes to employment, medical care, marriage, birth control, voting, and financial freedom that that means that suddenly they were saying that men could no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:01 PM
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Can you legitimately tell me in what ways men’s lives today have become worse because of feminism? Because from where I see it, all it has done is create a society in which women are now expected to work full-time, but also still do the bulk of the domestic labor. Feminism has removed a ton of weight off of the shoulders of men and placed it squarely onto women. Men have become the main beneficiaries of feminism when you look at reality. I would love to know how you could possibly argue against …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:34 AM
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I would love to know where you are getting your facts from. Like what on earth makes you actually think that the reality for most men is that it’s all give and no take? Is that just something you made up because you heard some dude on the Internet say it? Why on earth would “most men” stay in a relationship with a woman if they felt they weren’t getting anything out of it? (I’m assuming the way you actually worded it in your comment was just a Freudian slip)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:07 AM
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If you think it’s “exhausting” to simply go on dates with your partner, then you are with the wrong person. It shouldn’t feel like it a chore, dude. You know there is no requirement in life to have a girlfriend or a wife, right? If you don’t want to do it, you don’t have to. You can just choose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:03 AM
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We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:14 AM
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What are you talking about? What are you not understanding. According to red pill men, women are hypergamous mindless shallow sluts because they “want tall rich men” and these men will cry about how that is “not fair”. At the same time, they will also claim that these women fuck losers, drug dealers, and criminals just because they are a handsome “Chads“. They use these contradictory talking points to paint women as though they are all trash and undeserving of love… They say things like, “she’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:30 AM
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It sounds like you are getting your information from manosphere grifters online who are pushing cherry picked street interviews with drunk college chicks on the streets of Miami. You should try getting to know some actual women before you try and tell other people what women want. Like… In the real world, not on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:09 AM
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Not in my experience. Whenever they do try to justify their own preferences, they always try to wrap it up in some sort of pseudoscience nonsense about caveman and ancient tribal leaders. Just like this post was attempting to do. Even the very concept of the “alpha man“ has been debunked as pseudoscience bullshit and rejected by even the man who originally first coined the term. Yet men still attempt to use this term today as though it has any real meaning whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:29 AM
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Uhm… Yeah. They absolutely do. The women who actually do want tall rich men only for their height and their money absolutely admit it… they admit it loudly and proudly. Red pill guys love to cherry pick and share videos of these women vocally admitting it on camera. But most women don’t think that way, so they can’t and won’t “admit it”, because it’s not what they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:15 AM
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I do not believe that women wanting a more dominant sexual partner is a new thing. I think the “new thing” is that women have the freedom and ability to actually look for the kind of sexual partner they want now vs having to choose only from the few limited number of available men they randomly met in real life back in the day… And of course, now we have social media and are talking about it. You are aware of the fact that social media didn’t used to exist, right? Like, I’m only 43 and social me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:10 AM
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This comment doesn’t even make sense. Just because there’s nothing wrong with something doesn’t mean everybody’s going to want it. That’s just not how sexual attraction and desire works, dude. Plenty of women do want this stuff, but I don’t think this increases or decreases just because a woman is on one side of 30… and just because some women want this, doesn’t mean that all of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:58 AM
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Yeah, I would really love to know where he is getting his information from. No judgment… I know that people are a lot more open about their kinks now than they used to be (including myself) and porn has made it easier for people to realize that they even have kinks in the first place. But I still think he’s stretching this quite a bit. He’s probably just casually dating woman on the apps and he has or attracts a specific type without even realizing it… or even worse, he’s never actually experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:07 AM
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For you to claim that it’s more attractive for a 40-50 something year old man to find “true love“ with a woman who has a low “body count“ and not post-divorce with kids is kind of proving my point here. Especially when the man has the same. An older man specifically wanting a younger woman with no experience has nothing to do with Love… That’s all about possession, control, power and influence. And I say that as a woman who knows there are exceptions. But I’m not talking about the exceptions, we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:09 AM
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I never said anything about investing 100%. I’m responding to OP‘s advice that men should invest “as little as possible early on”. There’s a pretty big difference between investing as little as possible and investing 100%. Any man who considers taking a woman to a casual dinner for some pizza or tacos, communicating with her consistently and treating her like a human being to be “investing 100%“ is a joke. And that’s pretty much all most women want from men these days. I have no idea what the he…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:46 AM
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This is just a wounded man who cannot face rejection. He self sabotages and refuses to “invest” in a woman so that he can say he didn’t really even care when she inevitably rejects him. I’m glad these men are ruling themselves out… I just feel sorry for the young boys who actually read this stuff and buy into it. Those poor kids are destroying their chances at happiness before they even have a chance. No emotionally competent self respecting woman would date a man who thinks or behaves this way …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:30 PM
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Exactly! This is the kind of advice that virgin men give other virgin men because they have no idea what they’re talking about. Men typically give their best effort in the beginning and things will only go downhill from there. Once they have sex with you a few times, their effort drops by at least 50%. This is standard across the board and any man who claims otherwise either has no idea what he’s talking about or he’s just lying. This whole mentality of “put in zero effort at first and then when…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:23 PM
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I don’t disagree with you there. But that specific sentence was really more of an analogy than meant to be taken literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:49 PM
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Exactly. And it also reinforces the idea that alot of men are mindless heathens who refuse to evolve and adapt to the world in which they actually live. Men’s failure to evolve is why so many of them will never reproduce. It’s the most natural thing there is. Those who fail to adapt, fail to thrive. They justify their mindless behavior based on the behavior of “stone age chieftains” and think that somehow makes them sound less ridiculous. What’s even funnier is that the majority of today’s moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:36 AM
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Yeah, that and they typically don’t give a damn if they are rejected. They just don’t care, because they don’t care about these women (and these women don’t care about them). A lot of red pill advice might occasionally help you get meaningless sex if you can handle the repeated rejection and you are operating in a space/community where your reputation won’t be impacted… but it’s the opposite advice you want to take when it comes to actually being friends or having a real relationship with a woma…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/26 07:21 PM
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When they are hooking up with these women, they aren’t typically honest with them. They lie to women to get them in bed and then disappear on them. Either that, or they are just going out and getting drunk with random women who don’t give a damn about their personalities and are just looking for the same thing they are… Quick, easy, drunk sex.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/26 02:47 AM
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It’s not easy to do, as everyone has some insecurities. I would say that the best way to clock this is when you see multiple signs that reveal a pattern… Not just one random thing. For example, if a man seems overly concerned with my “body count“, if he is uncomfortable with me having male friends, if he responds negatively at the mere mention of an ex-boyfriend, if he gets irrationally upset if it takes a few hours to text him, if he demands to know my location at all times, and if he gets extr…
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 10:45 PM
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I agree that for a lot of them, it’s more about control than companionship. I think most of them just feel horny, emasculated and powerless… Not lonely. It almost feels like a lot of them are actually saying something like this… “I don’t care if politicians take my rights, the wealthy control my life and corporations destroy the very planet I need to live on… as long as someone will just give me a woman to possess, I can fool myself into believing that I actually have some control in this world …
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 05:07 PM
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I agree, but it’s also more than that... It’s propaganda and to a lot of people, it’s actually really effective propaganda.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 04:43 PM
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I already answered you and gave you two different examples. And metaphors aren’t literal. That’s why they are called metaphors. If you have a point to make, I wish you would just make it.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 11:55 PM
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How do you tell if something is considered punching up or punching down?… That’s where critical thinking and observation skills come in handy. It requires the ability to look at situations from an outside perspective and be able to accurately identify which group is the one actually doing the harm. Something red pill does not allow.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 10:53 PM
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In the context of people “punching up or punching down”, it is typically used to imply that somebody is blaming a particular type of person for a particular problem. For example, when an American blames an immigrant living in poverty for “stealing their jobs“… They are punching down. When an American blames a wealthy CEO for shipping all of the factory jobs to China and “stealing their jobs“… They are punching up. In the case of the gender wars, men will often “punch down” at women simply becaus…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 04:42 PM
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I always offer to pay. If they suggest somewhere super expensive that I don’t want to pay for, then I will politely suggest a more casual option instead. They rarely let me pay though. If they do, I honestly assume that it means they aren’t interested. And so far, that instinct has never proven me wrong. If a date goes really well, I usually ask them if they want to get a nightcap at a bar nearby, at which point I will buy the drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:37 PM
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Yeah, I definitely think young women are missing the boat as well. From what I see on social media, they are focusing on all the wrong things right now. So many social media grifters on both sides, it’s embarrassing. They’re over here complaining online about how men won’t ask them on dates anymore, won’t pay for anything and all kinds of other petty nonsense… Meanwhile, their rights are actively being stripped away and they are being slowly but surely stuffed back into the kitchen without even …
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 02:06 AM
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I’m obviously not referring to “all men“ or “all women“. And I already explained this. One is reacting defensively, and the other is reacting offensively. What I’m hearing is women in general saying that they want the same rights that men have, they don’t want to be forced into marriage or childbirth if that’s not something they choose for themselves, they want to be paid equally and many of them would prefer to just remain single and not merge their lives with a man. And the ones who do want to…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 01:58 AM
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I’m hoping that that is exactly what happens. That a lot of people continue to make the decision to not have children (and some just won’t be able to) and that society will sort of “reset“ itself with a more intelligent societal structure. I’m hoping that the majority of the young men who are falling into this ideology will just sort of continue living their lives “in their basements” playing video games and what not and hopefully not actually have much of an impact on society as a whole. I’m ho…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/26 11:04 PM
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I can understand how some young men may feel this way considering their very limited life experiences so far. And I can also understand how young women would feel that way considering their also very limited life experiences as well as the things they have been taught by older women who have had very different experiences than they have. Each feels as though they need to be punching at the other. But both are wrong… Except for the women who feel the need to punch back when the men are punching a…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/26 10:53 PM
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All very good points… Which is why I take this issue so seriously and don’t just shrug it off as internet nonsense or “just a few lonely men” like so many others in my generation are currently doing… especially older men who don’t seem to grasp how seriously the younger men need them to step up and spit some knowledge right now.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/26 09:13 PM
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I’m definitely aware of the fact that all men absolutely do not think this way, but I am really scared for the younger men… At least in my country. I fear that it’s causing them to increasingly vote in ways that will only exacerbate our current problems and will essentially create a vicious cycle that we won’t be able to get out of… The most recent presidential election in America being my prime example. I’m afraid they will vote for worse and worse politicians who will enact worse and worse pol…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/26 06:16 PM
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I fear this might be the exact problem and the exact reason why things will only continue to get worse… it puts alot of pressure and responsibility on minorities and women to fix all of these problems, though. I just wish the men would join us.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/26 05:45 PM
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Exactly. It’s your choice if you feel the need to invest in luxury beauty services, clothing, and makeup. I would actually kind of understand a similar argument when it comes to women working in the workplace… I’m not even the kind of woman who buys super expensive products, I don’t dye my hair, I don’t pay to have my nails done… I don’t do any of that nonsense. But since I’ve been working from home for the last like four or five years, I have saved an extreme amount of money when it comes to ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:32 PM
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In my experience, there isn’t really anything you can do in the very very beginning to demonstrate these things. If you try to state this vocally, you will just come off as being performative or disingenuous. When it comes to showing a woman that you are capable of participating in domestic responsibilities, the only thing I can think of to do in the beginning is to just make sure that you keep your own home, clean and enjoyable. If a woman comes over to your place and she feels comfortable ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:09 AM
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He was probably just bad in bed, if we’re being honest.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/26 02:54 AM
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Lying about who the father of their children is. But I don’t think that most women would disagree on that one. I also think it’s ridiculous when women criticize men or play the victim simply because a man says that he doesn’t want to date her because she has children. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for a person to not want to date someone with children. I also think it’s unreasonable when women expect a man to pay for everything when she is not the kind of woman who is looking to sideline her…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:47 PM
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Did you tell her that you viewed her only as a hook up before you fucked her?
/r/ExRedPill08/03/26 08:32 PM
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Yes. You had sex with this woman and then didn’t communicate with her for four days. Men who are actually interested in women and actually respect them don’t do this. You literally pumped and dumped her. If she has any self-respect at all, she will never speak to you again.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/26 08:31 PM
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If you don’t want to waste time and money going on dates with women you don’t see an actual future with, then maybe you just need to choose better. Nobody is forcing you to take a woman on a date… You should only ask a woman on a date if you actually like her and think she is a good person. And if you want the kind of woman who is not traditional and will pay for her own way on dates, then you are perfectly allowed to establish these things about people upfront. But you have to actually talk to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:45 PM
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The idea of dating is to find the person who is right for you. Not to avoid rejection at all costs. If you go on a date with someone and it doesn’t work out, you shouldn’t feel like it’s the end of the world. You should be grateful that you didn’t waste weeks or months or years of your life with the wrong person. The person who is right for you will not be disinterested due to some simple stupid little thing… She will like the simple stupid little things about you. But if you are too busy worrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:34 AM
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You just need to choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:07 AM
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What extra stuff? What are you even talking about? Did you even read my comment? You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to do. But if you want to date an “extra” Instagram model, who is a 9 out of 10 obsessed with physical appearances and material things, then you’re gonna have to do whatever she wants. And posing for a date is the bare minimum. Alternatively, you could just focus on finding a happy, healthy, well-adjusted normal woman who doesn’t have unrealistic expectations (but you wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:11 PM
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I’m reposting the comment I already made on another comment because I don’t feel like restating the same thing in different words… Yes, dates do cost money. Everything in the world costs money. Even the water we need to live. Which is why you should be selective on who you choose to go on dates with and actually chat with them a little bit beforehand versus what most men do by just casting a super wide net and desperately going on a date with any woman who will say yes. And choose dates that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:03 AM
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Yes, it does. Which is why you should be selective on who you choose to go on dates with and actually chat with them a little bit beforehand versus what most men do by just casting a super wide net and desperately going on a date with any woman who will say yes. And choose dates that aren’t ridiculously expensive… It doesn’t have to be something lame like a cup of coffee that feels more like an interview than a date, but it can be something simple like meeting for a happy hour drink at the end o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:01 AM
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That’s kind of the point. All women are different and they will get disinterested over different things. So there is absolutely no reason to obsess over the outcome when you are on a date. Just focus on trying to have a good time and actually getting to know the person you are there with with… She’s already on a date with you, which means she finds you attractive enough. If you are genuinely just focused on getting to know who she is as a person, you will almost always be successful. And if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:24 AM
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Don’t worry, I have plenty of contempt for women as well. Did you actually disagree with anything I’ve said here, or do you just not like it because you’re afraid it applies to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:04 PM
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YOU were the one saying that men are undateable. That’s why your post is so funny… You are literally saying it, and you don’t even realize it. You are so close to the point, yet still so far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:07 AM
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Fair. I honestly haven’t seen a picture of her in a very long time. I just picture her from Transformers and I’m aware of the fact that was nearly 20 years ago. I can’t imagine she’s gotten better looking than she was then (because I don’t see how that’s possible)… But if she has, then good for her!
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 09:58 AM
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You know it’s OK to just say that you are jealous of men who are more attractive than you are and due to this jealousy you believe that they are all garbage human beings… It’s OK to just admit that if you had the looks and charisma to lie to and take advantage of women, then you would do the exact same thing. It’s OK to admit that you are just upset about this because you don’t have the ability to do it yourself. But instead, guys like you like to pretend like because you were born unattractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:56 AM
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I would love to know specifically how you believe that in the situation you describe (where all men are essentially undateable) women are supposed to effectively vet or screen these men. Are you basically just trying to say that women have to date men they are unattracted to because all attractive men will treat them like garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:41 AM
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Yet you still think that one of the biggest problems is that women don’t screen properly?… You are blaming women for the fact that men are undateable. You don’t see how your logic is flawed here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:37 AM
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Exactly. “She won’t put up with my bullshit like a 20-year-old will… She’s jaded” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:34 AM
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The only reason you see this being an issue specific to women is because you date women. You should try dating men for just one week. They’re far worse off. But men just hide it better (especially in front of other men) which makes it worse in the long run. But to answer your question, yes… It does get better for women over 35. It sounds to me like you are running into a lot of women who are in transition points in their lives and feeling quite low. Women usually drop their standards during time…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:28 AM
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So you’re saying that… number one, people need to be physically attracted to their partner. And number two, they should look for loyalty, respect, and a willingness to commit? Wow super enlightening. Truly riveting thoughts you’ve got going on here. Seems to me like you’re also essentially saying that the vast majority of men these days can’t even meet these basic expectations… only one of two options, but not both. And yet you actually think that one of the biggest problems in modern dating is …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:20 AM
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Just remind yourself that the exact same thing applies to you/her as well… flip the script. You’d probably prefer to have a 20-year-old who looks just like Megan Fox did in her prime. But you can’t have that, so you will “settle” for the woman you can get. Women know this too…. we always have. We are always very much aware of the fact that there are many women who are hotter than we are. We just deal with it, dude.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 11:57 PM
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This would be a flawed strategy. If a woman approaches a man, he is almost always going to respond positively …especially if he is only interested in sex. He won’t even really care if he’s attracted to her or not, he will see her as an easy option to get some easy sex. It really is that simple. It will be an unpopular opinion, but in my nearly 45 years of life, I have learned that the best and quickest way to find out if a man is only interested in you for sex… Is to just go ahead and have sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:58 AM
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Almost every time I have tried to be friends with benefits with a man, he always expects more than sex. He expects the full boyfriend package and gets offended when he doesn’t receive it. He expects to be able to eat my groceries, mess up my apartment, yap my ear off about all of his problems and then has a meltdown when he realizes that I’m dating other people. I’m not opposed to FWB at all, but I am very cautious about who I’m willing to engage in these types of relationships with. Usually, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:03 PM
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I think that what most people actually mean by this is that there is no point in arguing with someone who is being irrational (man or woman). Like the woman in the DMV today… Why argue with a lunatic? Nothing good will come from it. But any one, man or woman, who literally tells you that you should not argue with a person simply because they are a woman is just a misogynistic moron… like they are implying that there is no point in arguing with a woman because a woman is almost subhuman and never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:30 PM
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Jesus Christ. I am not saying that ALL insecure people are toxic… But practically all of the people who are toxic are deeply insecure. And everyone has insecurities, but I’m talking about extreme insecurities. It’s usually very easy to spot, but most people end up feeling sorry for these people, and thinking that if they are just nice to them, then they can “help them”… When it comes to romantic relationships, that rarely ever works. All it does is cause the extremely insecure person to start tr…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 01:41 AM
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I mean no offense, but I feel like this is pretty much common knowledge to anyone outside of red pill. It essentially all stems from deep deep insecurity. When you look at the majority of toxic behavior from most people, it almost always stems from deep insecurity on their end. This applies to both men and women. Toxic people are often toxic BECAUSE they are insecure. And it can even result in abusive and dangerous situations. Aside from cases of certain severe mental illnesses, I don’t think I’…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 12:58 AM

Because most women actually put a shit ton of effort (and money) into their appearances while most men put little to none. Is this even a serious question? Also, of course this is annoying… What kind of man would actually say something like this to a woman? Only a very very annoying man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:37 AM
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This should be the ultimate take away
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:17 PM
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I think the point some of these women are trying to make is that Fiona had other options than to just sit in that tower or runoff and become an ogre in a swamp with Shrek. But many people, yourself included act as though those were her only two choices… sit in the tower in exile, be with Schreck… Or I guess the third option, be with Lord Farquad or Prince charming‘s dumb ass. They are also pointing out from their perspective that even when she followed her heart and chose the man (ogre) who was …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:12 PM

I think that a lot of women who prefer to date older men have just come to the conclusion that they are very likely to be become a man’s caretaker regardless of his age. They’ve just observed the way it typically goes, and they think that dating an older man will mean that there will be more benefits to being the one always taking care of a man… A lot of times, they think that the older man will have more money and take better care of her in return. But unfortunately, it doesn’t always work out …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:30 PM
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“Most women say…” where the hell do you guys even get this nonsense? This is just not true. Stop watching red pill podcasts. Please. They’re melting your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:47 PM
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I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but this is actually the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:50 AM
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In my opinion, women who choose to have children and get married, typically have far more stressful lives than they used to. But the women who choose to remain single and childfree do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:14 PM

I pity your mother for having a son like you. What a pathetic embarrassment for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:31 AM
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No. I have never in my life used the word “stud“ to describe a man in my life. Nor would I. And I don’t care what you say, seduction and lying are NOT the same thing. Not if you’re doing it right, buddy. YOU are the one who sounds jaded if you actually believe that you have to lie to a woman in order to seduce her. How sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:07 AM
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Why on earth would a man feel like it is “wrong“ to pay a woman to have sex with him, but that same man wouldn’t also believe that it was “wrong“ to lie to a woman and trick her into having sex with him? This makes no sense. It’s completely ass backwards. One of these things actually harms someone and the other one does not. Are you saying that these men are complete morons with no critical thinking skills or moral character?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:05 AM
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You still aren’t getting it. It doesn’t mean she “wants the D”. It means she’s willing to tolerate it. It’s honestly kind of sad that you don’t already know this. The way you talk makes it sound like you are a 15-year-old version, but who knows. I’m not disagreeing with you that most men actually think this way… What I’m telling you is that their thought process is flawed. I get that it makes them feel proud and wanted, but I think it’s pathetic that they don’t realize that it’s just not the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:13 AM
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Yeah, thanks. What I’m saying is that the guys who are lying to get the sex should just go ahead and pay for the sex. I’m aware of the fact that they aren’t doing that, but I’m saying that they should. I think it is far more pathetic to “resort to” lying to a woman in order to get sex than it is to just pay for it. At least if they are paying for it, they could have sex with the women they actually want instead of sleeping with the ones they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:55 AM
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I’m pretending. I have literally trained my brain to never be actually interested in a man until he gives me a reason to do so and it usually takes at least two or three dates for me to know if I like him… sometimes even longer. Because number one, I’m aware of the fact that the person you’re meeting on the first date is not really the actual person. You’re just getting trivia facts and tidbits about their life, but you don’t typically meet them for real for quite a while. And number two, I am n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:33 AM
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This is the main benefit. But it would also be excellent for the economy in multiple ways. Absolutely amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:18 AM
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A lot of times, she just wants a relationship with the guy. There are many reasons that women want relationships. They are lonely, they have been socially trained to want them and feel inadequate if they don’t have one, etc. It doesn’t mean that she thinks he’s so hot and sexy that she absolutely “wants his D”. In fact, on some occasions, she’s only sleeping with him in order to try and get a relationship out of him. She just wants a man to love her and she knows that she has to have sex with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:17 AM
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Yes, but I still think it makes them pathetic. It means that they have to lie to a woman just to get laid, which is embarrassing. Not only because they have to lie in the first place, but also because it makes them a piece of shit garbage person. If I were a man looking solely for sexual satisfaction, I would much rather pay a woman. It would be easier and cheaper in the long run and I don’t even know if I could get my dick hard and enjoy the experience, knowing in the back of my head that I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:09 AM
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What bothers me is that a lot of men seem to have a problem paying for sex, but those same men never seem to have a problem lying for it. They will mislead a woman, lead her on and tell her what she wants to hear to the point that she will sleep with them, and that gives him the ego boost, but he still doesn’t realize that he might as well have just paid her because she didn’t have sex with him because she wants HIM… She had sex with who SHE THOUGHT he was. She doesn’t actually want him, she jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:40 AM
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Exactly this. They don’t even realize they are doing it, but they are essentially saying that the only reason a man will treat you well is if he doesn’t have any other options. Problem is that once a woman actually gives one of these men a chance, he becomes lazy, entitled, overly confident and ends up treating her like shit anyways because he suddenly thinks that if he can get her, then suddenly he can get better. It really is a tale as old as time. They don’t realize that they are literally ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:36 PM
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Again, what are you talking about? You actually think it’s OK to lie to women for your own “happiness”… So you manipulate them into having sex with you? You think that what you need to be happy is casual meaningless sex with strangers, so that means that you are entitled to it, and it’s OK to intentionally lie to women? How am I being a “thorn” in your happiness? You literally tagged me in your comment. Are you just seeking attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:48 PM
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Is that a thread where OP deleted it so I couldn’t even respond once you actually said that because Women wouldn’t just grant you access to casual sex that you felt you were entitled to lie to them in order to get it? Why do you feel so entitled to casual sex from women you don’t even know that you think it’s OK to lie to them in order to get it? It truly baffles my mind that men like you can say the nonsense that you say while simultaneously trying to make it sound like women are the problem in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:59 PM
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wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:39 PM

I’ll tell you what… If you spend some time reading a free books and consuming some different content on the Internet to the point that you can take an unbiased view of the whole situation and actually feel the need to re-label yourself from red pill to purple pill, then maybe I will regain some hope in the less-fairer sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:12 AM

Just because you can’t get laid, doesn’t mean I’m wrong. How old are you? What kind of area do you live in… Urban, rural, suburban? What do you talk to women about when you talk to them?… Or do you just walk up like a dog in heat sniffing their crotch with nothing interesting to actually say? Do you have good hygiene/grooming or do you constantly look like you just finished a 48 hour video game, bender? Do you take care of your teeth, your skin, your hair, etc.? How/where do you meet these women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:02 AM

Again, I find this very hard to believe. But if women did tell you this, I think there’s a really really strong chance that the reason they told you that is because they were offended by you essentially telling them that all you wanted from them was sex. It probably hurt their feelings, so they responded by lashing back and hurting yours in return. That’s a super tacky and disrespectful thing to say to a woman… “Let’s just fucking see where things go”. And then you wonder why she said something …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:53 AM

Honestly, my attraction to men is fading more and more every day. But I try. A lot of y’all are just not OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:50 AM

Most women don’t have higher standards for looks when it comes to casual hook ups versus settling down… They are either attracted to you or they aren’t. But of the few women who might have higher standards for hook ups, it’s because when she’s just having casual sex with a man, that’s all there is to it… She’s going to be far less concerned with his personality, his character, etc. Why would she care about all of that other stuff if all she wants to do is have sex with him a few times and then n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:41 AM

I literally said “they will never understand this” and then I wrote a lot of other words. And your response is to say “understand what?“ Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:29 AM

Seriously 😂 this place is unhinged. But it’s one of those train wrecks I just can’t look away from for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:26 AM

Average looking men absolutely DO experience this kind of spontaneous casual sex. But first, they have to stop whining, get off of Reddit, get out of their basements, touch some grass, and stop treating women like they are an alien species. We are all just human beings dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:59 AM

I’m pretty sure that they are just going to think that you are a black pill dude telling them to fuck teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:55 AM

I think you overestimate the average red pill dude’s reading comprehension skills
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:46 AM

Because sex is fun. A lot of women will happily fuck a man they find hot even if they don’t view him as “relationship material”. ESPECIALLY if they don’t view him as relationship material. With these specific guys, she doesn’t really give a damn if he thinks she’s promiscuous, because she doesn’t want a relationship with him anyways. She typically knows exactly what kind of guy he is and she doesn’t care because she’s using him for the exact same thing. But when they are dealing with a man they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:44 AM

I don’t think this will be as effective of a strategy as you think it will. It sounds incoherent and unhinged and there’s no way to decipher it from the ramblings of a red pill lunatic or a woman attempting to talk men out of red pill lunacy. This just doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:33 AM

Honestly, when I read the post a second time… I kind of wondered if that might be the case. But then I thought, “no way this was actually written by a woman“. I actually had to read it a second time because it seemed so unhinged and incoherent. Either way, this was written by a crazy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:31 AM

They will never understand this. It’s almost embarrassing for them at this point. It’s so absolutely ridiculous because the very same guys who will complain about having to “wait or work“ for sex are the same guys who will spout shit like what he said in his little b1 point. They will blatantly admit and almost brag about the fact that “men” don’t want a woman who puts out early or on the first date because that means she’s promiscuous… Then they will turn around and complain when women won’t pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:03 AM
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I see what you did there 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:19 PM
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I’m just chiming in to say that I love your flair. You might be my spirit animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:50 AM
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If abortion are legal where you live, it should also be legal for a man to opt out of fatherhood as well. I’ve already mentioned that it would be complicated because they would need to do it immediately before the child was even born and while the woman still has time to make her own choice as well. I ultimately do not think it is right that the entire decision rests solely on the wants of the mother. Obviously, I believe that it should be her decision if she wants to continue that pregnancy, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:13 PM
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Thanks, I agree with you. But the main reason I believe these men should be legally allowed to “opt out” is because I believe those children will be much better off in the long run without those men in their lives. I also believe that it should be made abundantly clear to young naïve women that when they choose to have sex with a man and get pregnant there are no guarantees that man will help them raise a baby. They need to understand that if they choose to have sex, get pregnant AND THEN also c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:02 PM
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So you are referring to an event that occurred 12 years ago? They switched locations after being asked to pay for their events own security so they switched locations and the conference occurred with no violence and no significant problems? OK, dude. Either way, that organization‘s own website is full of nonsense and there’s a reason only a few hundred men chose to attend. Not because they were scared of women, but because that organization is targeting mindless idiots an attempt to convince the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:48 AM
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I would love to know… Seriously… What specific organizations and conferences are you referring to? Also, I think it’s kind of delusional if you don’t think that plenty of women faced death threats, harassment, and violence while fighting for basic rights like voting, property ownership, and financial independence. Not only that, but verbal abuse, physical abuse and death threats even from their own partners or family members. Some were arrested and force-fed in prison during hunger strikes. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:55 AM
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I am a super far left woman who is incredibly pro choice. And I also believe that men should have the opportunity to opt out of their legal obligation when it comes to being a father. It would be very complicated of course, and he would need to do it immediately in order to give the woman the information she needs to make her own choice in time. For example, he couldn’t just randomly decide once the kid is two or three years old that he no longer want to be a dad. But he could choose the moment …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:34 PM
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I find this analogy to be hilarious. In my opinion, you just described the average American… Buying shit we can’t afford is kind of our thing. Especially cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:25 PM
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“Big parts of feminism argue for the abolishment of all gender norms” This just simply isn’t true. I don’t know where you are getting your information, but I don’t think you even understand what feminism actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:13 PM

I’m aware that there are multiple reasons why someone might be a 43-year-old virgin. And I never said that means they are a bad person, I specifically said the opposite. Someone could be an absolutely wonderful person, but still not compatible with me as a romantic partner. I challenge you to give me one single reason why a person would be a virgin at 43 years old… One single reason that would not instantly rule them out as being someone that I want to date, marry and merge my life with. There i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:32 PM

No. I don’t think this is something people actually “wonder” about. I think most people understand very well why some men lie about being virgins. Some men also like to play dumb and pretend like it’s the same thing to be a virgin at 20 years old or even 30 years old as it is to be a virgin at 43 years old… but I assure you, it’s not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:55 PM
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Yeah, I get that. I’m commenting on the fact that I see constant posts and comments like this about age gap relationships, and how inappropriate they are from people all over the internet all the time… to the point that it’s a cliché talking point these days. But nobody EVER comments or talks about how inappropriate it is to saddle these “kids“ with predatory lifelong debt. I think we would be much better off as a society if people would refocus their priorities a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:48 PM
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Yeah, me neither. I just wish people would focus more on THAT topic than this one …then maybe it would actually change. But people just love meddling and everyone else’s sex lives for some reason. When someone complains about debt their parents and teachers very clearly coerced them into taking on when they were 18 or 19 years old and say that they can’t afford to pay it back, people tell them that they agreed to the terms and now they need to pay the price. Too bad. But for some insane reason, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:34 PM
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I understand this isn’t exactly the topic at hand, but it’s absolutely wild the way Americans choose to infantilize young people when it’s convenient and treat them as fully grown adults when it’s not. An 18-year-old can sign up for and commit to a lifetime of never-ending college debt and interest when they are 18. They can legally get married, get pregnant and they can sign up to go to war and die and in some cases be forced to do so. We accept all of this as normal and acceptable, but then we…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:24 PM

I think the problem could be easily solved for men… If you don’t want to date a woman who demands that you pay for every date and doesn’t offer to pay for her own share, then don’t dating her. This is 2026, there are plenty of women who work, earn money and will pay their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:03 AM

I don’t know about you, but I have always found myself to save money when I’m in a relationship. You can typically split the rent 50-50 unless you are dating a mooch, which I absolutely did for a while. But whenever I have dated men that contributed equally, it has been a financial gain for me. And for them. Obviously, this would be different if you own your home and aren’t renting or if you live with your parents or something. But if you’re an average renter in the United States, it’s definitel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:52 AM
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Of course it is possible. That doesn’t mean that it’s always the reason why a woman chooses not to have sex with a man on a first date. You sound insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:27 PM
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No. Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:04 PM
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That’s not how it works. You should truly do some reading about psychology… I don’t mean on Reddit, I mean, like actual psychology textbooks. Psychopaths, narcissist and sociopaths are often very, very good at masking and giving off “good vibes“. That’s not to say that all rapist are psychopaths or sociopaths, it’s just pointing out that people can be very good at putting out whatever vibes they want to put out while hiding who they truly are. I promise you that most women have much better radar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:12 AM
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How would you know? Do you actually think that rapists and pedophiles go around telling their friends about the things they do? Like, seriously? Their own mothers, their own children, their own spouses don’t even know. They don’t tell anybody. For obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:07 AM
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So you’re saying that either way, men are the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:09 AM
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I said that women “just naturally know that who someone is actually matters”. That’s nowhere near the same thing as saying that they are mind readers. Did you even read what I wrote or are you just trying to argue for the sake of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:48 AM
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What? That’s literally the opposite of what I said… Women ARE NOT mind readers. But they do care about a person’s personality as well as their looks. Unlike a lot of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:29 AM
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I don’t think so. I think the only time women want to hire men is when there’s physical labor to be done. And that’s becoming less and less necessary in American culture. But yes, some men only hire women because they want something pretty to look at around the office. That’s definitely not women’s fault though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:12 AM
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No, that’s not what I was implying at all. I was implying that these men are morons because it takes them 1 to 2 “starter“ relationships to realize that they should care about someone’s personality and not just their looks. It’s because they naturally view these women as sexual objects, not actual human beings. Women don’t typically have that problem, at least not to the same degree. They just naturally know that who someone is actually matters. The problem is they can’t get these men to actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:10 AM
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I don’t give a shit. If a man starts asking me about my body count demanding to know my entire life history, then I’m not going to date him anyways. I’m not gonna lie to him, I’m just gonna laugh in his face and walk away. He’s entitled to know if I have any STDs or if I have any children and omitting any of that information would be completely wrong. But other than that, I will provide whatever information about my sexual past that I want to… And if I don’t want to, then I won’t. Because it’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:49 PM
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I think there might be some truth to this, but I also think there’s another huge grain of truth that needs to be acknowledged… In a lot of cases, women are just better at their jobs and easier to work with (typically, but not always) …and even the men doing the hiring know this and would prefer to work with women over other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:27 PM
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Yeah dude, in case that wasn’t clear, I was talking about current western dating culture. What did you think I was talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:04 PM
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Are you just playing dumb, or do you actually not understand what I’m talking about? A woman choosing not to have sex with a man unless she’s in a relationship with him is absolutely not the same thing as a man lying to a woman about wanting a relationship with her in order to have sex. Neither of them owe the other one sex. But they do owe each other honesty. Frankly, I find it shocking and embarrassing for you that I need to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:01 PM
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Excuse me, sir. I wasn’t coming at you trying to “school you” on anything. YOU are the one that responded to my comment, whining about how “men have to approach women”, even though that’s not the point of the conversation that was taking place… and you just won’t stop. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:39 PM
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You’re not even responding to the point of the entire conversation. I don’t care dude. I am well of the aware of the fact that there are some people that are socially awkward and hate dating, so they just marry the absolute first person that will have them. I’m not saying that nobody does this and I’m not saying that by doing this, it means you are a bad person. But I don’t think you should try to imply that it’s “normal” or that it should be encouraged. I also don’t think you should try to tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:10 PM
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Because when the women are just interested in a guy for casual sex, THEY DON’T LIE ABOUT IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:18 PM
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It’s really sad that you are not super young, because you sound like you are. Really really sad. You are a GROWN ADULT MAN referring to people as fives and sixes and labeled as a top 1% red pill commenter on Reddit. Pathetic. And I don’t owe respect to anyone who doesn’t earn it. Sorry if that hurts your fragile ego… But I’m not gonna pretend to respect you when I don’t. Good luck, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:38 PM
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Yes. I agree with you. It’s incredibly abnormal and weird to marry the first person you ever date. Most people need to date for a little while. They need to learn what they want out of their own life, from other people and when it comes to their sexuality. But I was specifically responding to this person referring to men’s first girlfriends as “start her girlfriends and acknowledging the very well-known fact that most men will keep dating women they don’t even like in order to have easy access t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:33 PM
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wtf are you talking about? I didn’t say anything about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:17 AM
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You have no idea what you’re talking about dude. You have never dated men. You are delusional. Most women absolutely do not only shoot outside of their league. The problem is the moment a woman is the one to initiate with a man, he suddenly believes that he is automatically outside of her league or that she is a worthless whore… Because why else would she be hitting on him otherwise? He immediately doesn’t respect her anymore. This is something that we have been taught not only by real life expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:15 AM
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Yes, and THE REASON why so many women will not approach men is because of the behavior of other men. I personally don't do it anymore because men in the past have ended up treating me like I'm an easy whore when I do. So I just stopped doing it. And I realize that not all men do this, but most of them do. So if a man is interested enough in me, then he can approach... then, I can at least see HOW he chooses to approach me, which tells me a lot about what kind of man he is and whether he's worth …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:14 AM
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“Men have standards beyond looks, they just don’t realize this about themselves until after he’s gotten in 1 or 2 relationships. That’s what “starter girlfriends” are.” …And people are acting shocked and confused that young women no longer want to bother even dating these men anymore. They consistently prove themselves to be entirely lacking in critical thinking skills, empathy, or even basic common sense. Young women are sick of being their guinea pigs while they figure out how to actually be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:26 AM
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I agree. Nearly all of the complaints red pill men have these days are problems caused by the behavior of other men. It really is that simple, but they just can’t see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:23 AM
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Those men you are referring to… The ones who don’t care if a woman puts in any effort, only feel this way towards a woman if he views her as being beautiful and she is having sex with him. It really is that simple. Women should not be looked down upon for having higher standards than men do in this regard. As far as all those other standards you listed out… I think a lot of that is just nonsense. The average American woman these days does not have standards that are THAT high. You are repeating …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:35 PM
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Where did you hear that stat? That’s not accurate. Yes, far more women take antidepressants, but it’s not 1/3 of women… It’s approximately 15% of women. And that’s not because they are more depressed than men, it’s because they are far more likely to seek professional help for their depression than men. Also, men are nearly twice as likely to self medicate with alcohol and other drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:21 PM
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What are you talking about? Nobody considers this to be cute or endearing. That’s not a thing. Maybe, just maybe, a few men might view it this way because it makes them feel desired… But I assure you that the only women who actually think this is cute or endearing are the women who themselves are behaving this way. Nobody else thinks this is cute. I actually once had a man, when I was in my early 20s, get irritated with me because I WASN’T jealous. He said that it meant I didn’t love him. It was…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:15 AM
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I definitely think he’s full of shit, but I also think he was quoting me… I literally said this exact quote to him a few hours earlier, “Typically, when a woman is interested in a relationship with a man, then she will sleep with him early on or on the first date if she’s the type to do so…” BUT i said that in the context of a much greater conversation and taken out of context, removing everything else, it could sound like I was saying something I wasn’t. The conversation was essentially debatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:05 AM
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I think that’s fine. I think that if you are the kind of man who doesn’t want to put in much effort, then you don’t have to. But these men should really shut the hell up about the male loneliness crisis, and how unfair life is and how no women want you. Of course nobody’s gonna want you if you don’t wanna put in any effort into anything. On the flipside, if you’re the kind of woman who wants a guy from the 666 club, or has insane expectations in general, then that’s fine… Just don’t complain whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:44 AM
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It’s not an “exaggeration”. You said it for a reason. It’s a common term often used these days BY MEN to describe a man performing basic tasks associated with dating. I have literally heard even my own male friends say it in real life when describing simply asking a woman out…. “I’m not going to chase a woman”, he says while he wonders why he can’t find a sane normal woman who actually wants him. “They’re all crazy” he says, while not realizing that’s because he’s likely only ever been involved …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:37 AM
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I think the term “chase“ is very much misused these days. I do not expect a man to chase me. In fact, I don’t want him to. If I am running away from him or rejecting him, then he should leave me alone. On the other hand, I am very much aware of the fact that if a man ACTUALLY likes you and is interested in you for more than just quick, easy sex, he will do things to show that he is interested in you… He will want to talk to you either via text or on the phone, he will want to see you in person a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:36 AM
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Well, you might wanna tell that to your fellow men, because A LOT of them disagree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:54 AM
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That is not how it should be. You should not decide that you are suddenly in love with a person after knowing them for only a few hours. That’s called lust, not love. True love and passion is something you build with someone over time. Instant feral passion can also very nice and fun, but it is not the same thing as love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:53 AM
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Then why are you so concerned with whether or not they sleep with you on a first date? You watch too many movies dude. Life is not a romcom. You don’t just meet a stranger off of an app for dinner, instantly fall in love, go home that night, screw each other‘s brains out and then live happily ever after. That’s not how it works. Flings that begin immediately with “passion and fire of love” often burn out just as quickly as they started. Please do not fool yourself into thinking that just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:50 AM
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You think I’m not fun at parties because I don’t click on PDF links from random strangers on Reddit? OK dude. I’m actually really fun at parties… I can also get laid whenever I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:51 PM
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There. I fixed it for you. You clearly knew what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:48 PM
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And they also complain when women have high “body counts”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:47 PM
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WTF! Are you quoting me!?!? I replied to you earlier by saying “Typically, when a woman is interested in a relationship with a man, then she will sleep with him early on or on the first date IF SHE’S THE TYPE to do so with anyone else. And for the women who don’t do this, the reason isn’t because they are somehow trying to punish the man… It’s because they know how a lot of men will treat them if they do.” I said this in the context of some nonsense where men were trying to claim that if a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:42 PM
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What? Are you for some reason under the impression that women are supposed to sleep with you a few hours after having even met you? You think that if they don’t fuck you the first time they meet you, then that means they aren’t interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:15 PM
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That’s not true. She’s just choosing not to date this man because she unequivocally knows that he is attracted to something she can never give him, so the chances of him being happy with only her long-term or much much lower and it’s something that she will always worry about even if it’s irrational. You are just playing dumb if you can’t understand this. And again, not wanting to fuck someone does not make you prejudiced or biohobic. Not wanting to work with them, be friends with them, be neigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:06 PM
2

What? Are you just randomly roaming around your local community, your family and your friend group, constantly proclaiming how much you refuse to date bi people? Why is this even such a prevalent topic of conversation to you to the point that you have seen this be a consistent reaction? I gotta be honest, if I had a friend who just randomly felt the need to bring up the fact that they won’t date lesbians, I would probably raise an eyebrow as to why they felt the need to mention that in the first…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:31 PM
1

What you’re saying just isn’t true. Maybe in extremely rare situations where you are dealing with a lunatic on the Internet, but it’s not a “thing“.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:17 PM
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No. But again, sexual preferences are a much bigger deal than eyecolor. My point in making that comment was exactly that… It’s a stupid comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:49 PM
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Oh my bad. You two have the same profile icon so I thought it was him. 😂 The question makes much more sense in that context!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:47 PM
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I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree. I actually DO think that WHY someone has a preference does matter. The women I’m referring to don’t believe that bi men are somehow inferior, it’s not because they view them as being feminine, and it’s not because they hate them. They aren’t angry at these men, they don’t feel entitled to these men… They just don’t want to be in relationships with them. The reason for this I have already explained and I think that it does matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:44 PM
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This is typically geared towards women who do not want to date bisexual men as much if not more than the men who don’t. It’s very rare for men to even be claiming that they don’t want to date sexual women, and like I already said… those men are usually being ridiculed not because they don’t want to date bisexual women, but because they hurl misogynistic insults at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:11 PM
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There is a pretty distinct difference between someone having a different eye color versus having completely different genitals and physical appearance. And I think you know that. Also, for what it’s worth, if I were dating a man who had blue eyes, I would never tell him specifically that I like men with brown eyes, because I know how that would make him feel. I would tell him that I love his blue eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:06 PM
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“…Or at least no more than a monogamous straight guy towards women.” DING DING DING! It’s because he’s a man, not just because he’s bi. Most women are already terrified of being cheated on because they know how common it is. But once they clearly know that a man also prefers having sex with other men, it makes this concern even greater. It’s not only because he’s bisexual… It’s because he’s a man. You can call it bi phobic all you want. But it isn’t… It’s based on how the person feels about THEM…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:02 PM
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I don’t click on PDF links from strangers on Reddit. You can just tell me what the number the study quotes as being “a lot”. And when it took place. Or not. I really don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:47 PM
1

wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:45 PM
0

What are you talking about? I never said all of anyone were perpetually thinking with their penises or anything like that. I’m specifically talking about people who flip out and accuse others of being bi phobic simply because they aren’t interested in dating them. That’s a specific subset of bi people… I think most bi people aren’t too concerned over people having their own individual preferences and don’t go around accusing them of being bigots for it. If what I said doesn’t apply to you, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:45 PM
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No. It is not a wrong assumption to assume that a bisexual man will be attracted to men. That’s literally what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:42 PM

Dude… You’re all over the place. Typically, when a woman is interested in a relationship with a man, then she will sleep with him early on or on the first date if she’s the type to do so with anyone else. And for the women who don’t do this, the reason isn’t because they are somehow trying to punish the man… It’s because they know how a lot of men will treat them if they do. A lot of men do not take women seriously when they fuck on the first date. They treat them like trash. It’s a natural resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:35 PM
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I honestly think that for a lot of people, at least women when it comes to dating bisexual men, it stems from their own insecurity. They know they will be constantly concerned that they are not “enough“ for this man because they know that he is attracted to other men. They don’t want to be in a relationship with someone that they will constantly feel like they aren’t enough for. This isn’t because they are prejudiced or believe a stereotype that all bisexual men are cheaters or something… It’s b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:26 PM
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“Men who aren’t as preferentially attractive in a visceral sense”? Seriously dude, that’s the same thing as saying men who aren’t attractive to them. Why do you red pill guys love playing semantics so much. You really do not sound as smart as you think you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:21 PM
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I’m pretty sure nobody is going harshly judge a man for not wanting to date a bisexual woman. I promise you these women do not care if you want to date them or not. But they might judge him harshly if he is making public statements claiming that bisexual women are ugly feminazi whores who should live their lives according to the will of men and be forced into submission. But that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:15 PM

She was asking you why you “value” casual sex so much because you literally said that a woman choosing not to have casual sex with a man makes him into the “thirsty incels” we hate and that it’s somehow “corrupts the good”. You are the one that seems to value casual sex to the point that you think it is something that a man is entitled to… And if he doesn’t get it, then he’s justified in becoming “corrupt“. A very dangerous and toxic line of thinking, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:10 PM
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I am not being unnecessarily condescending. I am being honest. He’s claiming that a woman’s flings “say a lot” about her as a person, that women are “insecure” because they don’t like men who judge them, and that when a woman actually wants to date a man, it’s only because of his resources. He’s misguided. And it is absolutely not a common dynamic for a woman to “settle” for a man she is not attracted to because “Chad” wouldn’t commit to her. You’re just parroting red pill talking points, not st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:03 PM

This is exactly it. It all stems from their own insecurity and the fear that they could never live up to other men. It’s really really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:53 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:51 PM
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No. But I enjoy sex and I’m not going to be in a relationship with a person just for the sake of being able to have sex. I’m also not going to live a life of celibacy when I’m single. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:49 PM
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I’m sorry if you haven’t experienced it yet, but sex is fun… that’s why people partake in it. Not everyone feels the need to be madly in love with someone in order to enjoy having sex with them and not everyone associates it with “value” the way you’re trying to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:44 PM
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This makes no sense at all. I do not withhold sex from the men I want to actually date and randomly give it away to the ones I don’t. Neither do most women. And I assure you… The ideal man that everyone wants absolutely DOES get casual sex if he wants it. Also, “good men” are not corrupted simply because a woman doesn’t want to have casual sex with him. That only happens to insecure, entitled, narcissistic, misogynistic men who view women as sex dispensers. You really need a reality check, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:41 PM
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What are you talking about? This isn’t a thing. Straight men love dating bi women. It’s a major fantasy for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:30 PM
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I agree. It annoys the hell out of me when people accuse others of being biphobic because they don’t want to date bisexual people. I think it does a great disservice towards the progress the LGBTQ community has made and gives conservative lunatics ammunition to use against them… it allows them to claim the “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile” nonsense by claiming that other people‘s sexual preferences are suddenly being forced upon them. The moment you tell someone that them having their …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:25 PM
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“Studies” have shown that “a lot“ of promiscuity shaming is being done by women? I would love to know the exact numbers you are referring to when you say “a lot“. I would also love to know when this “study“ actually took place and what it’s methods were.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:15 PM
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What? You’re not even making sense. Why do you think that someone having a fling somehow reduces their “character“? You’re thinking on this is so flawed. Anytime I have had casual sex or a FWB situation with a man it has been because I was physically attracted to him, but he was not what I was looking for in a partner… Meaning our lifestyles were not compatible. Like, he has kids, or he doesn’t live near me, or he just wants a different things out of life. But when I’m in a relationship with a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:12 PM
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You’re making a point that I have heard made over and over again and it just doesn’t matter. Someone is either attracted to someone/something or they’re not. It doesn’t matter if it’s someone’s fault they are fat or not… Some people will find that attractive and some people won’t. It also doesn’t matter if it’s someone’s fault that they are short or not… Some people will find that attractive and some people won’t. Trying to justify your own physical and sexual preferences while villainizing othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:38 AM
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Yeah. Most people don’t want to date people who have no standards. You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying… The problem isn’t a person having standards, the problem is when those standards are both hypocritical and based solely on physical looks. Obviously, everybody wants to be attracted to their partner, but when your standards are based only on how a person looks, you’re going to have a bad time. Like some of those men who only go after a certain type of woman… You know the type… The one who …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:36 AM
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Typically, the women who are dying single and without children are doing so by choice. The same cannot be said for their male counterparts. And these women are rarely pennyless. This is because statistically, women do much better when they are single. There are obviously exceptions, but there’s a reason why you hear everyone yammering on about a “male loneliness epidemic” while the women are just out there living their lives, enjoying time with their family and friends, traveling, building their…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:23 AM
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Unfortunately, in this sub, OP’s statement is a very controversial and inflammatory opinion. A lot of men actually somehow believe that they are just automatically entitled to an attractive woman, regardless of whether or not they themselves are also attractive. The same men who will openly admit to only caring about a woman’s looks will ruthlessly villainize all women because some of them have height preferences or don’t want to date broke people in this economy. They are truly blind to their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:27 AM
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It’s proving to be quite profitable entertainment for many. These online grifters have these young men in the palm of their hands and they’re not letting go anytime soon… in order for them to keep their interest, though they have to keep escalating and creating more and more “compelling” content. Which means that this is going to get much much worse before it gets any better. And many of these young men will unfortunately die childless, womanless, penniless and alone because of it. It’s actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:47 PM

So as to the point that I’ve been trying to make in this comment thread, these men are not some kind of undercover left-wing progressive activists, who “value cross-cultural connection, linguistic diversity, and global movement” as OP was suggesting… they just want to try and get “hotter“ women? But again you’re not answering my question… WHY would these hot foreign women be willing to date these men when hot American women are not? …what makes them different?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:53 PM

So you’re saying that if a man is short, he won’t be able to get an American woman who isn’t fat. So that’s why he needs to go to a developing country? …to find a foreign skinny woman who is willing to date him? Why do you believe the woman over there are so eager to date these short men and American women aren’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:45 PM

You are aware of the fact that American men and women are obese at nearly the same rate, right? It’s not American women who are fat… It’s Americans in general. About 40% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:47 AM

What is it that makes these women you’ve never met in these other countries “worth it“ over western women? What is it that makes western men deserving of more than their American women counterparts? Like specifically… What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:44 AM

You’re not even making any sense at this point and you’re clearly trying to “trick” me into saying what you want me to say, so let me make it clear. I do not think that men should be specifically traveling to developing countries for the specific purpose of dating in an effort to give foreign women some kind of opportunity in life. That’s not activism, it’s not charity… It’s just fucking weird. If a man actually wants to help people who are less fortunate than him, he can,join aid organizations,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:39 AM

Ok, chief. But I don’t think that’s the flex you seem to think it is. Good luck out there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:29 AM

Dude. You are delusional. You’re just spouting random tired red pill talking points that don’t have anything to do with this conversation. Are you drunk? Responding to the wrong comment? Do you just keep this shit on copy paste? Legit… You aren’t making any sense. You truly honestly sound like you never even learned how to read or comprehend basic sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:04 AM

Yeah, I’m aware that OP wasn’t saying anything about power and control. That’s my point. He was trying to sugarcoat being a passport bro as though it’s some sort of progressive ideology… It’s not. He’s not an activist. It’s about being able to have power and control over the woman in your life and attempting to find a woman who will be with you solely for what you can provide for her financially… Not a woman who is actually sexually attracted to you, who respects you as a person, loves you and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:01 AM

My statement is not based on the way I view women from third-party countries. It is based on how THESE MEN view these women… what I have heard these guys repeatedly say and what I have seen them do. I am in no way attempting to tell these women what they can and cannot do. You clearly suffer from some reading comprehension problems if you believe that I am. Again, this is based on the reasons why THESE MEN SAY they want these women… because the men themselves are the ones that view these women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:29 AM

Yeah, and if you would put half that energy into your life here in America… Maybe an American woman would actually want you and you wouldn’t have to “train“ to become a passport bro. But you don’t do that because you have convinced yourself that the only woman who will want you is one who doesn’t want you, but NEEDS you. If you marry and knock up an American woman, she can leave you if she decides to. A woman from a third world country with no other options won’t be able to do that and you know …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:40 AM
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When will you guys ever finally understand that the fact that I can go on a dating app and get a date within an hour is NOT the advantage you think it is. The apps are filled with desperate thirsty men… Many who are married, in relationships and only on there swiping right on every profile they see in order to get as many women in bed as possible. Women are not the “employers“. We are the “prey”. You have no concept of reality on this issue and appear to be absolutely incapable of looking at it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:14 AM
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The problem is that you are saying things like “dating is simple, women make it complicated“. And you are claiming that it’s understandable that men should be confused by basic common sense things. I’m not arguing with you about the fact that a a lot of men are confused… That’s clearly very evident. I think where we are disagreeing is that you seem to think that this is somehow women’s fault for having “confusing” or unreasonable expectations to the point that it’s just impossible for men to eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:53 AM
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No, I do not believe this should make things confusing for a man. Not unless he is a complete moron equivalent to a cartoonish caveman grunting and beating a rock with a stick. It seems like basic common sense to me. I actually think you are doing most men a disservice by assuming them to be morons like this. I think many men also have their own preferences when it comes to how their potential partners show up during the dating versus relationship stages. I think this is a concept men are perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:55 AM
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Yes. I am telling you that I would not date a 43-year-old virgin. I don’t know when exactly that cut off would be… But I would not date a 43-year-old virgin. If he’s a virgin at 43, then there’s a reason for it and him and I have had vastly different life experiences, and we would not be compatible. It would absolutely not matter what that reason is… Any reason given for the fact that he was a 43-year-old virgin would rule him out when it comes to someone I would be interested in as a life partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:38 PM
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Yeah… Most men, especially young men these days, don’t have this option. They are actually going to have to pursue a woman if they are interested in her. It’s bad advice. For a few different reasons that I already mentioned and you haven’t even acknowledged… Most women today won’t respond well to this at all. They’ll just think he’s a lazy loser who has no personality, no confidence and will expect her to carry the entire relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:59 PM
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Yeah? How long have you been out of the dating pool? I don’t think your strategy would help you “stand out” in the way OP was implying that it would in most dating circles these days… But like I said, I guess there would at least be one out of 300 women that would go for this strategy. It’s all a numbers game to most of you anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:42 PM
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Ok dude, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:33 PM
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You’re just living in a different world. I’m a 43-year-old woman who has had three very significant long-term relationships and dated several other men aside from that. I have never in my life lived in a home that had a lawn because I live in a city and I have never dated one single man who knew how to or even needed to fix anything around the apartment. Men don’t know how to do things anymore. Most of them at least. My most recent ex didn’t even know how to change a damn tire, but was like a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:53 AM
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You are wrong. Taking out the trash and cutting the grass are basic simple tasks that rarely even need to be done when compared to things like cooking the meals a day, dishes, laundry, vacuuming, bathtime with the kids, and every other never ending thing that needs done to maintain a household. A lot of people these days don’t even have lawns to cut, and if they can afford to own a house with a lawn, they typically pay someone else to do it. And I find it humorous that you think that most men ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:32 AM
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But you are talking about a literal stranger. This woman doesn’t know you from the next man. How is she supposed to know if she likes you or not? 99% of women are going to assume that if YOU are “genuinely interested” in them, then you will contact them first. They want to see how you approach them, what’s your vibe… when you contact them and start a conversation, how do you do it, what do you say… Are you immediately steering the conversation towards her tits and ass, or are you treating her li…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:31 AM
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I disagree. I think the best strategy is to ask for her number and text her immediately. I’m talking about like while you are still in her presence. Send her a cute little smile emoji with your name or something… And if that’s not possible, then text her immediately afterwards. Keep the conversation going. Don’t just give a woman your number and expect her to reach out to you. If you’re attracted to her enough to ask for her contact info, then so are a lot of other guys. If you actually want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:24 AM
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This is going to vary drastically depending on who you ask. For me, it becomes a problem when it defines his identity or causes him to behave in extremely insecure ways. It’s also a problem if it’s for religious reasons because I am not a religious person and I refuse to date people who are. That said, I’m a 43-year-old woman and I would never date a virgin because I’m just too old to do so. But when I were younger, I wouldn’t have cared that much… In fact, I didn’t really make it a habit of ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:16 AM
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I think you’re misunderstanding what red flag means. It doesn’t mean you’re a bad person and it doesn’t mean it’s your fault. But it does mean that it’s not something somebody wants to live with. Why would somebody feel a desire to date another person who can’t get out of bed? Honestly… Why would anyone voluntarily sign up to share your life with a person who is facing this type of problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:13 AM
1

I think people get this kind of vocabulary all mixed up on social media. You have a combination of grifters who try to post the most outrageous things because it’s what gets the most attention online and then you have the super young people who just don’t know what in the hell they are talking about or what they even want yet. You also have some straight up lunatics and some people who just aren’t very articulate. All of that said, I think that when most women say something to the effective, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:57 AM
1

I think this is all a silly debate because it affects both equally, but they approach it differently. For example, men will say things like a woman with a high body count is unclean, unpure or ran through… But in reality, it just makes him feel self-conscious because he thinks that statistically speaking, there’s a strong chance that one of the men she was with previously has a bigger dick. He can’t handle the thought of being compared to another man like that. On the flipside, when a woman know…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:35 AM
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It’s just one of many examples of how people will do things and normalize things that we never thought they would and it actually happens very very quickly. We could use the concept of passport bros if you prefer something more closely related… The idea that men would purposely travel to a foreign (often third world) country specifically to find a less fortunate woman who is desperate to date him solely for his financial resources is a perfect example. It’s loser behavior, but many men are now w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:04 AM
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I don’t think this is true. At least not in the near future. There used to be a time not long ago, I remember it well, when people said the same exact thing about dating apps. It was only meant for losers who couldn’t get a date any other way. Now it’s the most common way for people to connect. People said Uber would never work because people would never want to get in a strangers’s car. meanwhile, they’re literally rolling out the robot driverless cars in my city this very month. They said nobo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:52 AM
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The part of social cohesion I’m worried about is related to class and race… When members of the opposite race, but the same class are at each other’s throats, we end up where we are heading now. I am less concerned about men’s ability to easily get laid or the fact that some women no longer want to be randomly approached by strange men on the street or in the grocery store. Anyone who finds this to be one of our more significant societal problems right now has a few screws loose in my opinion. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:47 AM
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That’s a human problem, not a man problem. There are tons of people, both men and women who are born ugly, disabled, mentally challenged, etc. I don’t understand why you seem to think that’s a man-specific problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:41 AM

So, to answer my question, you are saying that, yes… in order to make friends, men MUST have spaces that are completely void of women. You are incapable of making friends if any women at all are present? That’s what you are claiming?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:39 AM
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This is true. But in order to find someone who truly loves and cares about you and be able to return that love, you must first truly love and care about yourself. It really is that simple. It’s a vicious cycle that these men are perpetuating against themselves. I will never understand why when so many women historically felt unloved and uncared for, they fought and struggled for the ability to just be free, but men these days seem to be OK with just wallowing in empathy regardless of the consequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:37 AM
0

This post would be a lot more useful if you would mention some of the specific dating advice you think is disingenuous as well as maybe stating a few key pieces of advice that you think would be genuine. Otherwise, you’re just kind of yelling at the clouds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:54 AM
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Dude, you’re kind of making this whole new reality sound pretty appealing. Kind of explaining why a lot of women don’t like to be approached by random men on the street anymore. Your poor mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:37 AM
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Don’t worry about it, dude. We’re well on our way to the point where there will be no people in any streets, malls or grocery stores anyways. The big corporations and AI overlords are already seeing to it. We’ll all just be living in our little boxes, having what we need delivered from fulfillment centers with no need to go anywhere or do anything but work (until the robots kill off the remaining jobs). None of this matters and nobody cares if men are approaching women anymore because we can jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:34 AM
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As a woman, I have no problem sympathizing with men who can’t find a woman. I absolutely DO have sympathy for them. The problem is that when you actually talk to these men and listen to what they say, you realize that they don’t want the sympathy of women… They want their submission. To them, being sympathetic to their problem means that you have to actually date and f*ck them. They don’t want my pity, they don’t want my friendship, they only want my body. If they were content with only my sympa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:28 AM

Oh, I know. I know exactly who and what they are. It’s just become a morbid little hobby of mine to “debate” them on Reddit in hopes that other younger men will start to see how foolish they actually sound… A lot of times they will make super vague blanket statements that these boys take to heart, but once you get them talking and trick them into elaborating on their actual full thoughts, they reveal themselves as the lunatics and losers that they are. It amuses me and in some twisted way feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:25 PM

No, I don’t!!! I absolutely do NOT have a victim mindset because I am NOT a victim. Luckily, I was born in the early 80s when, unlike my mother and my grandmother, I actually had equal rights guaranteed under the law. But if men like you still controlled the world, then yes, I would absolutely be a victim. Thank God, men like you can’t even rule your own personal lives, let alone the country anymore. So I am not and never have been a victim of your kind of lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:19 PM

Dude, you legitimately sound insane. “Women literally make it illegal for men to MGTOW” …What are you talking about? What law have women passed that you are referring to? Where are you getting your information? Women are absolutely not preventing you from making friends. This is just a delusion. You are hard coping and denying reality if you truly believe this. Also… Claiming that men have “never held women back in anything” is just laughable and insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:15 PM

What state do you live in where it is illegal for men to have men’s only spaces and what law are you referring to? I genuinely want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:11 PM

I don’t care if the dynamics are different. This conversation is in context of the original post ABs my specific response to it. If you’re trying to change the subject, then make a new post. Men already have the ability to play grab ass with their male friends without women present. Your comment was not relevant to what we were originally discussing. Maybe you should read OP‘s post again and rethink whether or not you actually want to defend what he is actually saying or maybe just move along if…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:09 PM
5

What rights have women taken away from men? And when have men in general historically ever been “peaceful”?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:34 AM
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Individuals sacrificing their own freedom and rights is absolutely NOT necessary to live in a functional society. You sound insane. Maybe you are from a different culture, in which case this is a pointless conversation… But I am an American and what you are saying is the exact opposite of the “American way“.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:31 AM
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Yeah, but he’s the one claiming “male loneliness epidemic“. I think it would be perfectly fine if he decided to stay single and avoid women for the rest of his life. He could have a happy life if he chooses to. But it doesn’t sound like that’s what’s happening. Instead of just happily living his life without women, he’s acting like it’s a catastrophe and now claiming that he can’t even make male friends because of women. It’s delusional. And yeah, no shit. Everything in life is a gamble and a ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:30 AM
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He literally said he’s in favor of women losing their rights. What else would you call that other than “subjugating“ women. If a man chooses to get married, have children and create a family… Then no, it is not subjugation when he is then obligated to support them. But if a woman is forced by government laws and policies to create children, prohibited from supporting herself financially due to her gender and required to seek permission from men when it comes to how she lives her life, then yes… …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:21 AM
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Because he is literally making multiple statements dehumanizing women, while claiming that it’s women who dehumanize him. Because he says he only views women as “bang maid therapists”. Because he truly seems to believe that women are the ones who are preventing him from making friends. This man needs help because if he doesn’t actually figure life out, he’s not going to live much of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:16 AM
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So you’re telling me that women are no longer allowing you and your friends to go to the bar or go to your living room or your basement or wherever the hell it is you wanna hang out and do your little bro-bullying so you can feel some camaraderie or whatever it is, you guys do? That’s absurd and it’s not happening. I’m not arguing that men don’t benefit from spending time with other men while women are not present… I’m saying that women have absolutely not robbed you of your ability to make a fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:12 AM
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Thank you for proving why feminism was necessary. Lonely bitter men like you and many others out there would much prefer to subjugate women than to peacefully live alongside them. Which is why men cannot be allowed to dictate their desires over women under the eyes of the law. Because too many men are toxic, selfish and literally evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:03 AM
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Seek help, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:44 AM
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I’m confused. Are you saying that in order for men to make make friends, they MUST have access to spaces that are completely void of any women at all? The mere presence of a woman prevents you from making friends with a man? Can you explain this phenomenon to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:35 AM
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I’m not reading all of that, but regarding your first sentence… Most violence is carried out against men BY OTHER MEN… What does that have to do with feminism? Feminism is about attempting to make it so that women have the same freedom and choice to live their lives as men do. It’s about changing laws and policies to allow for equality, not hierarchy. We ALREADY HAD and enforced laws against man on man violence… But for a while there, when it comes to the laws regarding violence against women, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:48 AM
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You’re coping so hard it’s almost funny, dude. You’re not even addressing what I’m saying, you are just spewing more red pill, talking points and demonstrating how you view all women as being the same. But you know nothing about me… I’m not one of those 19-year-old drunk college chicks that you guys love to watch being interviewed on the street to validate your twisted views of all women. I’m a 43-year-old woman who has way more life experience than you. And you are just simply wrong if you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:47 PM
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Yeah, this all may be true anecdotally about your neighbor, but seriously, dude? …most women aren’t getting the advice to stay single and prioritize themselves over men from Vogue Magazine. They are getting it from actual real life elder women who HAVE been married and HAVE had children and wish that they hadn’t. Hell, most of them just look at their mothers and their grandmothers lives and think to themselves, “hell no, I don’t want that”. They don’t need a magazine to tell them anything. I gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:37 PM
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I think the point he’s trying to make is that he thinks women are stupid and it’s their fault when their husbands spend a lifetime lying to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:03 PM
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I’m happy to agree to disagree with you. But it is common sense. I already acknowledged all of the essentially infinite number of reasons why a man might be insecure in general… But when they reach the level of the kind of woman hating that Andrew Tate and extreme red pillers engage in, I guarantee you there’s a 90% chance that man is not happy with the size of his dick and it is why he specifically specifically specifically specifically begins to hate women.
/r/ExRedPill20/12/25 12:16 AM
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If you’re woman who has dated a lot of men, then I would expect that you would know what I’m referring to. But the good news is that most women these days don’t typically end up dating these men for obvious reasons. At least not for long. And no, of course, there is not data to back this up… It’s common sense when it comes to human psychology. I don’t need a study to tell me what I already know. Confident men do not behave this way.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/25 11:59 PM
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How many men have you dated or fucked? I challenge you to genuinely ask real women about this and get their honest feedback… I bet you will struggle to find one example of a man who was content with the size of his penis, yet still acted like, spoke like or thought like Andrew Tate. Confident men do not fall for red pill nonsense. The funniest part is that some of them actually have perfectly acceptable average size penises, but they have melted their brains with porn so they end up thinking tha…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/25 11:30 PM
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That’s not body shaming. It’s pointing out how extreme insecurity causes people to turn rotten. Men can be insecure because they have a small penis, because they are bald, because they are short, because they are old, because they are young, because they are poor, etc… There’s basically an infinite number of reasons why a man can be deeply insecure, and it often causes them to become incredibly toxic, if not straight up abusive and violent. Andrew Tate is an insecure man (pretending to be a secu…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/25 09:25 PM
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It’s been very very profitable for him to hate women the way he does.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/25 09:19 PM
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I completely agree with you, but I think one of the problems that is often overlooked is that that young man literally can’t even afford to buy himself a Slurpee at 711, let alone buy one for someone else. A lot of men are broke as hell due to our current economic policies, and it’s destroying their brains. It makes them feel like absolute failures, rejects ands losers and that naturally makes them sad and angry… So then they start acting like failures, rejects, and losers and red pill tells the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:11 PM
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Wow, you have an absolutely terrible opinion of men. You should speak for yourself… Not all men are actually sociopaths, ya know? You’re probably the same kind of person who would argue that women need to “choose better“ and it’s their fault for choosing “Chad”… While simultaneously claiming that all men are garbage at their core regardless of what they look like. Basically… The only way a man will ever be faithful to you is if he literally can’t get any other woman to give him the time of day? …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:44 PM
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You think that voluntarily choosing to take a woman out on a date equates to “a bunch of hurdles“? You’re upset because society pressures you to take a shower, brush your teeth and clean your ass? You’re right that dating is different for men and women, but LIFE in general is different for men and women. This is just part of life and I think it’s really weird that you seem to feel victimized because women are allowed to set their own standards when it comes their own personal love lives and choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:11 PM

A woman being financially viable without a man does not equate to her having “1 foot out the door“. You sound like the kind of man who is just upset because women have Freedom and Options now which means they are no longer forced to stay with men like you. How about you view women as human beings and find one that you actually love who actually loves you in return instead of viewing women like property or your own personal bangmaid. Then maybe you wouldn’t have to worry about our leaving you as …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:07 PM
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Men (who usually don’t even have any assets these days) are saying that assets should not be split in a marriage “you own what you earned”. Then they simultaneously wonder why so many women no longer want to get married, stop working, abandon their careers and have children with these men. It’s hilarious watching them get exactly what they wished for and collectively crying about it. Also, in case you weren’t aware, BOTH parents, the man or the woman are legally held liable for child support… It…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:01 PM
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This is nonsense. Most men only care about looks first… If she passes a certain bar, then they might care about her personality (but not very much). There are exceptions, but they are few. You are also overlooking the fact that the majority of women who ARE confident in themselves are NOT interested in men who are not confident enough to approach them. They know that if they are too forward with men they will be judged and they often don’t approach not because they are not confident enough, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:24 PM
1

No. But that’s typically because he thinks the only thing he needs to provide is a paycheck. Neither one of them end up happy. Which is why I would not wish this kind of relationship from the man’s or woman’s perspective on my worst enemy. A lot of people think that their dream relationship as a woman is to just have a man cover all the bills so they can stay home, cook, clean and take care of babies every day, and the man thinks his dream is to have a woman at home cooking, cleaning, and having…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:23 PM
2

Then go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:03 PM
2

You make $200-$300K per year? Own property? Got a solid retirement plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:53 PM
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Well, you can choose to use whatever words you like however you like, but it’s also wise to understand how these words are actually used by the rest of society if you ever hope to have any meaningful conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:54 PM
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Well, this is 2025 and the term “conservative” means something different now. It doesn’t really matter what it means to you… I’m talking about what other people perceive when you refer to yourself by that term. It means a whole hell of a lot more than not wanting to pay taxes, not wanting to register your gun and wanting drugs to be legal. That’s libertarian, not conservative. And just to add on… I’ve been working in drug policy reform for about 20 years now and it’s the conservatives that fight…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:50 PM
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You sound like a libertarian, not a conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:54 PM
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I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this, but I don’t care… as a woman who grew up in the south, based on my own observations, I have come to believe that most conservative women claim to value a man who is loyal, honest hard-working and “loves Jesus”. But their choices tell a completely different story. The only thing I see them valuing is his paycheck because they aren’t capable of or willing to make their own money and that’s what they need him for. If you want to date a conservative woman, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:52 PM
1

I think the problem you are observing is when certain men are cold and emotionless until they blow up with misguided emotion. For example, they might feel lonely, sad, insecure or scared … but instead of processing or sharing those emotions in a healthy way and trying to understand why they feel the way they do, they will only allow it to come out as expressions of anger, jealousy and resentment and it often involves a door being broken or a hole being put in the wall. Not all men, but when you …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:37 AM
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Unfortunately, not good partners in my experience, just great lovers. There a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:24 AM
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You don’t know anything about me. Why are you so offended? Are you just automatically assuming that if given the opportunity, I wouldn’t think that you were good in bed for some reason? Did my original comment strike a nerve somewhere in you because you think that I meant that the fact that you personally are not “crazy“ means you must be bad in bed? It wasn’t about you, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:22 AM
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You have no idea what you’re talking about. Plenty of men mean that when they say they are “dominant”. How many men have you fucked to be able to say what these men mean by “dominant”? I don’t know what porn girls sound like when they are interviewed about having sex and I don’t care. You sound like a virgin who doesn’t even know what the word “introspective“ means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:13 AM
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No. It isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 06:03 PM
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I can be quite “introspective” actually. But introspection is about examining one’s own thoughts, feelings, and motivations… Not speculating on the thoughts, feelings and motivations of others. I’m not going to attempt to claim to know why some men are the way they are. I gave three different possibilities for why this might be the case when it comes to my own personal experiences. And most importantly, I don’t really care why they are that way or not. The “why” doesn’t really matter to me. If w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:28 PM
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No. That’s not what I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:08 PM
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I have no idea. Maybe I’m just unlucky. Maybe they’d learned to put more effort in because they knew that they had to. Maybe I’m crazy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:08 AM
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Unfortunately, some of the best men (when it comes to sex) that I’ve ever been with also just happened to be crazy as hell. They weren’t necessarily assholes, they were just crazy and there was no way I could merge my life with theirs. Had to let them go.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:48 AM
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I think a lot of what is confused about this topic is what you mean when you say “approach“. Most sane people are not going to shame you for “approaching“ a woman and having a conversation with her like a normal human being. But they will shame you if you learned your personality from online pick up artist grifters and the only thing you can think to say to her is something about how she looks and you can’t read the room and take cues when she’s letting you know she’s not interested. Unfortunate…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:51 AM

There’s a very strong chance that the women you are referring to are also religious like you so they have certain hang ups when it comes to sex… That, and they have probably only been with selfish men who are bad lovers. Sometimes, when a woman has never had the opportunity to have sex with a man who cares equally about her pleasure, she just starts to believe that sex is not enjoyable. She doesn’t realize it’s just because she’s never had good sex. This is not most women, but it is most women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:02 AM

Are you, as a virgin, actually trying to claim that “most women“ just starfish in bed? Where are you getting your information from? To answer your question, yes, there is a way to express that you are sex positive. Nothing you’re saying here is doing that though. If a grown man tried to tell me on a dating app that he was sex positive, but he was also a virgin waiting until marriage, no offense… Seriously, no offense, but I would think he was insane and end the conversation right there. I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:20 AM
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I think teens should absolutely date. But I think they should absolutely NOT get married, not have children and not let their young relationships dictate decisions that will affect the future of their entire lives. I think teens should date for the same reason children should have pets… To teach them the inevitable truth of life that all things eventually die and essentially every relationship will eventually come to an end. It’s just part of becoming a sane, healthy adult… learning how to cope …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:14 AM
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I think you’re already aware of the fact that the mindset you are falling into is not based on reality, but based on your own insecurity and anger towards feeling rejected. I think the best thing you can do at this point is to avoid certain online content that will only fool your brain into believing things that simply are not true. If you are feeling that down about yourself, then it can make you feel good to hate other people and blame them for the way you feel, but as it sounds like you are a…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/25 07:03 PM

I completely agree with you on this because I want men in their 30s and 40s to be able to see when they are being fed talking points and advice from 17-year-old virgins who don’t have a clue about how the world actually works yet. A lot of of these men/boys just regurgitate the same red pill talking points they’ve heard from online grifters and they say it in a way that makes it sound like it’s actual life experience when it isn’t. Even a 20-year-old man who actually has had a little bit of dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:02 AM
3

What? No
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:19 AM
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I don’t know where you’re from, but it sounds very different from where I am. There’s no point in discussing gender dynamics and the culture of dating with someone outside of my own culture. The crap you’re saying here does not apply to my environment or my experiences. Where I live, even if a woman is receiving child support from two different fathers, she is absolutely not profiting at all and women absolutely do not treat raising children as a single mother as a viable financial strategy. It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:53 AM
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First of all, both parents are responsible by law. Not just the men. The reason the men are the ones who usually pay child support is because they don’t want (or literally couldn’t handle) the burden of actually raising their children. It’s much easier to just send a small percentage of your paycheck instead. And I highly doubt that women where you’re from are en masse, choosing to have children with deadbeats as a career plan. When you have an abnormally high rate of single mothers needing gove…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:26 AM
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Yeah, there are laws that will make men pay child support, but it typically doesn’t actually provide the support necessary to actually raise a child… It’s just a percentage of that man’s individual income, which is often really low and relatively useless. Women are kind of damned if they do and damned if they don’t because if they are only willing to hook up with or be in relationships with men who make a lot of money, then they are called gold diggers… If they get into relationships with men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:38 PM
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The only way these men can get sex is by lying to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:42 PM
1

That was a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. You’re basically saying that men should not be honest about their intentions, but also saying that they shouldn’t lie about their intentions either. Some of you guys are unbelievable in the way your minds work and the word salad nonsense that you spew out into the world. Are you basically trying to say that men shouldn’t tell women they only want casual sex with them because then the women won’t have sex with them? The only way to get casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:41 PM
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Yeah, I agree. My point I guess is that when women do this it usually doesn’t work… Nothing actually happens. They just have to leave those men behind, but a lot of them don’t have the ability to do so. And when women in general just start leaving men in general alone, well in that case, we are already kind of seeing what happens. Tons of women are already opting out. They’re opting out of marriage and they are opting out of having children. All you have to do is scroll through this sub and list…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:35 PM
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Dude, be so for real… If a woman was ACTUALLY approaching you, setting up dates, paying for everything and initiating sex with you, you would have no respect for her and treat her like a desperate slut. You’d say she was “for the streets”. Recreational use only. You can say that’s not true, but I won’t believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:49 AM
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This is exactly what I did before I ended a seven year relationship with one of these men. I know exactly what happens when you stop doing it. The house becomes disgusting and unlivable because a lot of these men will gladly live in filth before loading a dishwasher. He was just upset because he wasn’t getting sex anymore, and I was upset because we were living in filth and I hated everything about what our lives had become. The bottom line is that if I didn’t do something, it just absolutely wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:44 AM
1

Yeah, most of these women do take turns paying or they split the bill. I was talking about basic social etiquette and who pays for the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:00 AM
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I think that generally speaking, women have been asking for quite a while for men to stop giving them so much attention. I don’t think anything at all would happen if men actually did this. I think the reason they won’t stop “giving them so much attention“ is because they know that women will not approach them no matter what happens, so they have no choice. It’s just kind of a silly thing to even discuss too heavily because it will never happen and it’s not the core root of the issue here. Men’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:13 AM
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No, you’re not right. You’re not even making any damn points. You just sound lonely and miserable and like you’ve never actually been on a date with a real woman. Or maybe you’ve never even actually liked a real woman. You keep talking about “average women” and I doubt you even know any. You legitimately sound like your entire world view comes from red pill talking points you saw on YouTube. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:54 PM
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Men in general aren’t supposed to buy food for women in general in 2025. But if a specific man invites a specific woman to dinner, then it is polite for him to pay. Nobody is requiring you to invite a woman to dinner and nobody is requiring you to pay for it if you do. But it is polite to do so. Why would you ever invite a woman out to dinner and not offer to pay for it? Serious question… Why would you do this? As a political statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:47 PM
2

Yeah, dude, is calling these women “prostitutes” which is kind of ridiculous because it’s clear that he’s just upset that they’re NOT sleeping with him just because he pays for dinner. More likely than that, he hasn’t even been on a date, he’s just listening to red pill content and thinks he actually knows what he’s talking about. It’s really sad what the Internet is doing to these poor guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:44 PM
2

Ok dude. Whatever you say. Good luck out there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:41 PM
2

Are you serious? I’m not gonna sit here and try to explain to you how dating rituals came to be when it comes to how humans interact with one another. That was your parents job. The general idea is that if a man is actually interested in a woman… This man knows that because she is beautiful and sweet and kind that means other men are interested in her as well. He asks her to go to dinner with him. And she agrees to give him time and they go sit across a table from one another and get to know eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:39 PM
2

Listen, I always offer to pay on a first date. Every damn time. But we aren’t talking about you and we aren’t talking about me. We are talking about men and women in general these days and how they view dating. Most women do not demand that men pay for dinner. But they do like it when he does because it signals that he might be kind and caring… when a man doesn’t offer to do so it turns them off because they assume that he either legitimately cannot afford a simple dinner or that he just doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:07 PM
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Where are you getting this information from? How many dates have you even been on in the last year? What makes you think there are all these desperate women out here that just want free dinners? Some TikTok you saw? I promise you that most women are not out here desperate for a free Applebee’s cheeseburger. We legit do not care about your crappy cheap dinner dates. Most of us are just looking for a man who isn’t insane at this point and who hasn’t rotted his brain with porn to the point he can n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:56 PM
0

A woman is allowed to be independent and consider herself a feminist and still be attracted to a man who is capable and willing to pay for a first date. But if you are expecting the kind of woman who is going to cook for you, clean for you, be there at your beck and call and birth/raise your children… You better damn well be able to provide something. If you can’t afford to take woman to dinner, then you can’t afford to support a family and you should just go after the super modern boss babes wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:52 PM
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I find it interesting because this general idea is suggesting that men should fight within themselves individually to overcome their crippling obsession with sex so they can stop being forced to subject themselves to “boring“ women who only view them as providers. Meanwhile, women in general, had to historically fight the entire system for the right to become their own providers and now that they have successfully done so, many of them no longer need men and are vilified for it by lonely helples…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 01:29 PM
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Look, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said here, but you need to know… this sounds like ChatGPT wrote it. If you’re trying to promote your content, then you need to do a better job with your marketing copy.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/25 11:40 AM
1

I think the problem here is that what you mean by “successful with women” is that they get laid a lot. But honestly, how many of them have managed to build happy healthy relationships, and hold onto them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:41 PM
1

I didn’t say I don’t think it’s a problem. I said I don’t care… It’s of very little concern to me considering all of the other problems we are facing. The bottom line is that women are not the problem in today’s society. We are not the reason why men cannot afford to get an education, find gainful employment, buy homes and support families. That’s the fault of our government and the corporations controlling it (and in some cases, the man himself and the decisions he makes). Any man who believes …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:32 AM
1

Yeah, I will acknowledge that this has happened in some cases. But honestly, I just don’t care that much. The world is not and has not ever been a fair place and I don’t know why in the world these men suddenly expect it to be. I think it’s hilarious that for generations, women weren’t even allowed to apply for most jobs and in recent history, employers would absolutely exclude women applicants simply for the fact that they were women. Why weren’t men upset when that was going on? Now that thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:49 AM
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I don’t know about this. I think the biggest percentage of men who feel this way are the ones who have yet to actually start their lives. The ones who are currently 25ish or younger. I think the real problem they are facing is the fact that they don’t see a path forward for their future. And in all fairness, that’s because there really isn’t much of one available to them at the moment. They have every right to be filled with rage and sorrow… The problem is that they are pointing that rage and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 06:37 AM
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I really do sympathize with you and I understand that a lot of people, both men and women are incredibly lonely. My question though, was what is it that you all are suggesting that society does specifically to help men like yourself? The comment I was responding to was implying that when it comes to men’s individual lives and their feelings of loneliness, that it is the fault of society as a whole because society doesn’t “do anything” to help them and doesn’t care about them at all. I think that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 02:15 AM
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I never once told you to “draw up” the perfect man. I simply asked you to think about men in general and ask yourself what percentage of those men do you think you would be comfortable with marrying your daughter and becoming the father of your grandchildren? Think about what it means to you to be a good husband and father… What qualities does someone have to possess? Patience, selflessness, strength, resilience, kindness, loyalty, etc? Think about what it takes to financially and emotionally su…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:27 AM
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This is not sexist. It is just reality. Are there exceptions, of course. But the fact remains that most men who are online complaining about the loneliness epidemic and how nobody cares about them are doing absolutely nothing to attempt to care for others, for themselves, to build their community or form healthy relationships with either men or women. They expect it to all be handed to them as though it is their birthright requiring no effort on their part. If this doesn’t apply to you specifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:01 AM
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I’m sure you’re aware of the fact that many many people no longer want these traditional relationships… Especially women. I was specifically asking what it is that SOCIETY SHOULD DO to help these lonely young men. Are you trying to imply that you believe that society should force these types of traditional relationships onto people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:53 AM
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So you think that only 20% to 30% of men would meet the criteria you would like to see for the type of man to potentially marry your daughter or your sister and start a family with them? You do realize that’s a pretty low number, right? That would make 70% to 80% of men undesirable to women. I think that’s a much bigger problem to be discussing and trying to fix than any dating apps or algorithms or the fact that men don’t like the fact that most women won’t swipe right on men they don’t find ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:50 AM
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Nobody ever said that everybody is terrible and that nobody is good enough. There are actually still a lot of people who are in relationships, married and creating families. I wasn’t asking you about your one specific friend, though… I was asking you what percentage of men in general that you know and that you come across in your daily life would you consider to be the kind of man you would want to be the father of your grandchildren? What percent? Either way, I do not believe that all women wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:56 PM
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I disagree with your sentiment. It sounds to me like you view a potential wife and children as though they are “the boat“. I think you should view yourself as “the boat“.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:43 PM
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It sounds like you just have a crappy family. I’m not trying to discount how painful and real that can be, but I don’t think this is necessarily a problem faced specifically by men. I think this is a problem that anyone can face. We all want people to listen to us and “lift a finger“ for us. But some of us are just dealt better or worse hands when it comes to the families that we are born into, regardless of gender, race, economic class, sexual orientation, or religion. I’m still not understandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:40 PM
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Genuine question… Do you have a daughter that you love?… Maybe a sister? If not, pretend like you do… Pretend like you have a young woman in your life who you truly love and want the absolute best for. Then start looking at your male friends, the men you encounter online, the ones that frequent dating apps, the ones that cross your path on the street… Watch their behavior, listen to their words, and then truly ask yourself what percentage of those men would you actually want dating, marrying and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:47 PM
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I’m legitimately asking, not trying to start a debate. What exactly is it specifically that you want society to do for these lonely young men when a lot of them don’t seem to want to perform even basic life tasks in order to improve their own lives? Do we need to offer more mental health services? Would they even use those services? Do we need to somehow force them out of their basements and into society against their will? Force them into the military? Or does it just come down to finding a way…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:35 PM
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“When you don’t have your own family, you most likely end up pouring your energy into a faceless corporation.” Hard disagree with you on this one… When you have a family to support, you are actually more likely to end up pouring your energy into a faceless corporation because you have fewer choices. When all you have to do is support yourself financially, it provides you with incredible freedom. You might think that is a selfish outlook on life, but I think the selfish outlook on life is the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:29 PM
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But when you hit the wise old age of 19 years old and you STILL don’t have a girlfriend, a wife, a career or a family yet, then how is one supposed to even buy into the lies of blue pill… they’re all just sheep. Even if you do manage to find a good woman to love you, marry you and birth your children, she’s still going to expect you to contribute financially AND help take care of your family’s home and raise your children… And when you refuse to do so because video games and porn are more fun, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:59 PM
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I never said all men are incompetent and I don’t even believe that the men I’m referring to here are incompetent… I believe they are selfish and lazy. There’s a difference between those two things. And I understand your point about choosing to focus on the 10% of women who have said that they have never orgasm in their lives. I don’t have the stats on that, but I would be interested to know what number of those women were virgins versus how many have actually been with men. If you want to talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:20 PM
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I know (I was just trying to go easy on men in general, so their heads didn’t explode)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:37 AM
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In a lot of cases, these are women who have waited quite a while to actually sleep with a man… Because of their culture or religious values, they have waited a long time and now feel emotionally connected to this man. And then they have sex with him, he does his thing, rolls over to go to sleep, and she is just left there feeling lonely and sad. At that point, they have no idea that they were just having sex with someone who wasn’t good at sex… They fell in love with this person before sleeping …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:15 PM
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Sorry, purple pill man… But unless you’ve had many male lovers yourself, then please take my word for it when I tell you there are plenty of lazy selfish men who will not listen to a woman even when she tells him what she wants. Are there some women who won’t communicate what they want? Yes. Are there some women who don’t even know what they want yet (because they’ve never had it and nobody’s bothered to ask)? Yes. But this does not negate the fact that many men simply go into sex with the inten…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:21 PM
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I think the women who you have seen posting this stuff are a very small percentage of the population when it comes to women and I think the main reason they feel this way is because they have literally never had a man give them actual pleasure during sex before. Many men are selfish and lazy lovers who have no idea how to please a woman because their only chosen source of information is the porn they watch (which is typically geared toward his desires and not hers)… and many of them just don’t c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:55 AM
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That’s not true. You are talking about the average man who sits on Tinder and swipes right on every profile he sees, hoping that a woman will magically fall into his lap without him having to put in any real effort or risk face to face rejection. The average man isn’t even on Tinder. In America, it’s less than 20% of men who are even actively using Tinder. Stop listening to online grifters, go out into the real world and experience life some more… Form your own opinions instead of parroting the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:55 AM
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Most women already know this and most women do not engage in “unrestrained hypergamy“. Stop trying to lecture and teach women and maybe start listening to them and learning something yourself. If you are having trouble finding a woman to give you a chance, then it likely has nothing to do with hypergamy or “Chad”… It’s because you self-identify as red pill, you talk and think red pill and you believe that women are so stupid that we need you to tell us what we want, what we deserve and even what…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:40 PM
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That’s exactly what it is. He’s jealous because nobody picked him so he subconsciously just wants to bring all women down a peg so they feel as bad about themselves as he feels about himself. Which would be understandable, but he sounds stupid because his logic is just flawed. He’s delusional if he believes that the majority of women have their “pick of the litter” when it comes to men. They may have alot of options when it comes to casual meaningless sex, but most women do not want casual sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:19 PM
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These are not facts… You’re just making shit up. Seeking independence and freedom is not “purely a masculine characteristic”… It is a HUMAN characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:00 AM
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And you men wonder why so many women have started referring to masculinity as “toxic“? Seriously, you really need to get some help for your issues. Your mindset will end up destroying your life, if not the life of others as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:14 AM
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Feminism is absolutely not about women trying to become “men like“. It’s about women having the freedom to do whatever they want to do, just like men do… it’s about women not being viewed as property, about having the same rights under the law that men do and the ability to choose how they want to live their own lives. That doesn’t mean they are trying to be like men. And guys should absolutely not become feminine unless they naturally want to become feminine. Everyone should just do whatever th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:07 PM
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First of all, you should probably stop looking for it because I promise you that it’s NOT everywhere. Most of the media you are referring to is 20+ years old at this point and back then everybody was made fun of… Especially women and minorities. Not just virgin men. Also, the writers of the media you’re referring to were almost exclusively always men. Again, everybody was mocked or objectified in comedies back then… Fat women, old women, nerds, sluts, gay men, straight male virgins, disabled peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:36 PM
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You turn on the TV, put on a random show or movie and you’re bombarded with people shaming virgin men? …or you see women on tv and that reminds you that you’re a virgin so you shame yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:47 AM
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What the hell kind of media are you consuming?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:07 AM
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I think one of the problems with young men today is that many of them aren’t even going to college and if they do, they’re too busy hustling, working or racking up debt to even think about trying to meet their future wives. And for obvious reasons, most of the women going to college are definitely not looking for a husband at that point in their lives. I’m pretty neutral when it comes to college and I don’t think people should be pressured into it the way they used to be because the cost is ofte…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 05:56 AM
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Yeah, this guy sounds purple pill to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:31 PM
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Uhm… no? Where did I say that? I think some women think they will be happy with that life when they’re young and naive, but in the long run, most of them end up miserable, divorced and broke. Most women are happier becoming educated, supporting themselves and just never getting married… unless they are lucky enough to find a man who they truly love and who truly loves them back. But non-transactional love like that, where two people are together for decades because they simply love each other in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:02 AM
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I think there are plenty of men who are worthy of dating… But very, very very few who are worthy of marrying. It has nothing to do with their height, looks, income or intelligence… It has to do with the fact that most of them just don’t contribute equally. There are far too many of them now that expect a woman to perform all of the traditional “wifely“ duties and chores while simultaneously expecting them to work full-time and pay for half of the expenses. It’s going to be a very unpopular opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:11 PM
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This is me… tons of single dads I’d bang, but would never actually date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:27 AM
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It’s a grift to get attention and make money. And people fall for it. She’s not as stupid as she pretends to be… just shameless.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/25 02:44 AM

I’m honestly genuinely curious what in the world it is that makes you actually believe that it is more common for women to shame and belittle men for being virgins than it is for men to shame and belittle women for having too many partners. I don’t see this being an accurate statement at all and would love to see some data to back up this claim. Just because a woman doesn’t want to sleep with a man or isn’t attracted to him for whatever reason, doesn’t mean that she is actively shaming and belit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:19 AM

Yeah, but in all fairness, it always kind of has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:08 AM

That absolutely might just be wishful thinking on my part. What you just described is literally the premise of the movie Idiocracy and I think that’s probably a more realistic path for society to take moving forward. But in that case, we would be heading down a completely different path back towards Puritanical rule and men would no longer face the same challenges when it comes to dating as they do today. They won’t even need to be dating anymore because they will just be issued a wife. I view i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:03 AM

It is my hope that there will also be less single mothers as well. It’s my hope that there will be less children in general and that the children who are born will be raised in a much more healthy way than how we are raising children now. The only way I see this as being possible is if people stop having children just for the sake of having children. In America, I feel like we are in the middle of a sort of battle right now… A battle between one side, who wants everyone to have more and more chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:58 AM

Yeah, but I’m talking about the future kids of these kids. I believe, at least I hope, that the boys becoming indoctrinated with black pill content now are not going to be raising children of their own in the future. My hope is that this is a growing pain of our society, and that it will not continue through multiple generations, but die out with this one. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’m hoping for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:52 AM
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I think a really nitpicky side tangent I’d like to address is also the fact that most women aren’t necessarily complaining that Hollywood somehow convinced men not to find fat women attractive… It’s that they convinced them to think that women who are NOT fat are. A lot of men (and women) have come to have a really warped view about what a healthy normal human woman body is supposed to look like. That is what women blame the media and Hollywood for. The vast majority of women realize that most h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:48 AM

Yeah… Definitely not in all cases, but in most cases, these redpill dudes are just going to be the creepy uncle pointed to and used as a case example of what not to do. They won’t be the men raising these children. At least that’s what I hope. It’ll go something like this, “OK little Timmy, it’s time to get off Reddit now and go to soccer practice… You don’t wanna turn out like uncle Kyle now, do you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:40 AM

I don’t think it’s going to be the same problem it is today because I think that our future sons will not grow up feeling like they are entitled to a woman and that life has no meaning if they don’t get laid. The men who possess this attitude about life are not the men who are going to be raising the next generation of children… The next generation of parents will hopefully learn from past mistakes and raise their children to not become doom scrolling dopamine addicts with no social skills, who …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:05 AM
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I don’t think most women actually expect a ridiculous fairytale when they get married. I think a lot of them are pretty realistic in their expectations, but often end up with husbands who can’t even meet the bare minimum standards for maintaining a healthy relationship despite the woman never expecting a fairytale.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:25 PM
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Yeah, I was just joking. I think it has a lot more to do with their religion than it does quinceanera’s. I think it also might have something to do with their strong sense of community in general versus Americans “rugged individualism”. Seems to me like American culture does not value extended family and community the way other cultures do. When you have extended family and community to lean on then that puts a lot less pressure on individual spouses to be anything and everything to their husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:13 PM
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So you think we should just start giving all women quinceañeras when they turn 25 or 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:47 PM
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Yeah, I don’t understand why all these guys seem to think that most divorces occur because a woman just gets bored… Isn’t it usually something to do with money or infidelity? Although these days, I’m not sure about the stats, but I would take a strong guess that it has more to do with men not pulling their weight when it comes to supporting their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:45 PM
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He literally said “every girl I have met” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:52 AM
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I agree with you and I will never understand why so many men find this to be so offensive. I have never said this to a man because I think it’s a stupid thing to say… But if I ever actually told a man that he was “hook up material“ then what I would be saying is that he is not someone I deemed as a good fit as a partner FOR ME, but that he was attractive enough for me to have sex with. If I told him he was “boyfriend material” that means that I feel like he is attractive enough for me to have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:43 AM
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I don’t care, that’s not what we were discussing. I was responding to OP trying to claim that if a woman doesn’t want to date a bisexual man herself, then she doesn’t support equality and she is reinforcing “toxic gender roles”. Equality does not mean you are required to date anybody and everybody. You’re trying to start a different conversation here and I’m not interested in it. But if you insist on changing the subject, I will say that a woman is allowed to support equality… Equality when it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:19 PM
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I do not believe most people think that straight men should “have to” date trans women. I don’t know where you get this from, but it’s not an accurate claim. They might think that you should treat everyone with the same amount of respect you would anyone else and respect whichever gender they choose to identify with… But that doesn’t mean they believe that you should be required to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:18 PM
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Again, I’m not here to debate whether that is right or wrong… I’m saying that this is one of the main reasons why so many women don’t want to date bisexual men. It’s because they don’t want a partner who is attracted to another gender because they feel like they won’t be able to satisfy them. It’s more about feeling secure in their relationship than just wanting “masculinity“. I’m not interested in debating whether or not this is right or wrong… I’m simply saying that it is the case. You can arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:15 PM
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It makes no difference. Just because a woman decides she doesn’t want to have sex with someone who is of a certain sexual orientation, regardless of her own, does not mean that she is reinforcing gender roles. It just means she’s attracted to some people and not others. The very beginning of your initial post says that women who don’t want to date bisexual men (most women, as you claim) are reinforcing “toxic” gender roles / masculinity, despite “claiming to” support equality. Your very words ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 02:26 AM
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If you want to try to make the argument that a woman who expects a man to pay for everything, fancy first dates, open the car door, princess treatment, and all of that… But simultaneously refuses to cook him dinner, do the dishes, do his laundry, etc.… THAT is an example of a woman negatively or hypocritically reinforcing gender roles. I would agree with that argument 100%. Trying to use the example of a woman not wanting to date a man who fucks other men is not a good argument. It’s idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:54 AM
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Yes, so you can see why the average woman might not be interested in dating bisexual men. It typically has nothing to do with masculinity. You can’t even tell most bisexual men are bisexual. It has to do with feeling safe in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:22 AM
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I didn’t say that that’s how I feel. I said “right or wrong“, that is how a lot of women feel. Regardless of how you or I feel about it, I think it’s understandable for them to believe that if a man is sexually attracted to both men and women, then he will eventually get bored and seek the company of men. She knows she will never truly be enough. Regardless of how loyal or trustworthy he is, he will never truly be satisfied with only her. That’s a hard pill for any woman to swallow. But that’s b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:20 AM
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Again, you are lacking a fundamental understanding of the situation. Feminism was never about turning men into women or women into men. Women didn’t fight for feminism because they weren’t attracted to masculine men… It was simply self-preservation. Removing rigid gender roles is about giving people the freedom to do as they choose. If you want to be bisexual, then you can be. If you want to be gay, straight, trans… If you want to stay home and raise children all day or go out into the world and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:14 AM
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You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how equality works and what most progressive actually support. Supporting equal rights for all means that you believe that bisexual people should have the exact same rights as you or I do (the right to be free of discrimination when it comes to employment, housing, medical care, marriage, rights, etc). What it does NOT mean is that because you support equal rights for all people that you have to date or fuck all people. Also, it is perfectly rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:23 PM
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It sounds to me like OP believes that the fact that he’s tall and considers himself good looking is enough to land him a solid relationship with a solid woman. The fact that he thinks this to be the case is probably why he isn’t able to land a relationship. If all he “brings to the table” is his perceived good looks, then all he’s going to get are women looking for casual hook ups… women who are looking for relationships care about much more than height or former modeling “careers” when it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:17 AM
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Yeah, but it’s so true 🤣 3 is an exaggeration, but even 1 inch feels like a mile. In my experience, they are always way too low and never high enough. Like they think their tongue is supposed to go where their dick goes. It’s very frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:32 PM
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Oh my God. How is this so true? Even in their 40s, even after you tell them where it is… They’re always like 1-3 inches away from where they need to be. Like they actually think they know better than you or maybe they just have the listening skills of a bag of rocks. Not all of them of course, but it’s way too common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:15 PM
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What are you even talking about? Your claim that the majority of women expect men to make more than them is a completely different topic than the claim you are trying to argue that most men make more than women. The fact that most men make more does not mean they are automatically expected to be providers. Women want to and have fought hard for the right and ability to work outside of the home and provide financially for their families. The fact that women tend to make less money than men is def…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:16 AM
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I’m curious where you’re getting your information from. Pew Research Center says it’s 55%. Not 90%. But those numbers are from 2022 and I would bet it’s even lower now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:13 PM
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I understand that there are a lot of women on social media saying that they want a man who makes more than them (but that’s because most of these women don’t actually make that much money and they eventually want to have children and know that they will have to stop working for at least a little while and they want a man who can pick up the slack financially during that time). At the same time, there are also a lot of men who won’t date a woman who makes more than them because it makes them feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 12:20 AM
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I don’t know what backwards town you are living in, but the vast majority of American society no longer expects men to be providers in heterosexual relationships. It is far more common now for men and women to share expenses. The problem occurring is that while women have picked up carrying half of the financial load, men are not doing the same when it comes to the domestic labor and raising of the children. So women now have more responsibility on their plate than they ever have and men have le…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 10:03 PM

Some of these men believe that if a woman won’t have sex with them, then she has zero empathy or care for men at all and is somehow being cruel. You can smile at a man, have a conversation with him, be nice to him, etc.… But the moment you indicate that you aren’t interested in sleeping with him or being in a relationship with him, then suddenly you are an evil bully who lacks empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:34 AM
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She’s not saying that women won’t have empathy for these men. She’s saying that having empathy for them will not result in them actually wanting to fuck those men. Just because a woman is not sexually attracted to a man doesn’t mean she is not empathetic to him or being a “jackass” towards him. A woman can be kind to a man without being required to have sex with him. People rarely have control over who they are actually physically attracted to… It’s either there or it’s not. And one of the faste…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:31 AM
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I said you have to meet their “baseline“ level of attraction (which for many women is very low). What’s wrong with that? Do you actually feel so entitled to a woman that you believe they should date people they aren’t even attracted to? Do you want to date a woman you are not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:14 PM
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Wtf dude? How was it pretentious for me to tell men what most people already know. Men simply should not be dating women who make these types of demands right off the bat because women who actually like you will never do this. And if men would stop playing that game, then women would have no choice but to stop making those demands. I’m really not sure exactly what I said that you are disagreeing with, but it seems like you’re just talking shit because I happen to be a woman. You are only proving…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:44 PM
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Dude… You seriously scrolled through 2000+ photos of leaked data looking for a “single fuckable” one? Did you ever think that there might be more productive things you could be doing with your time? Maybe putting in some effort to improve your life somehow? And I don’t believe you when you say that every day you regularly see “obese whales” with athletic men. You probably saw a regular dude grocery shopping with his pregnant wife once and use that to justify your entire warped view of women in g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:15 PM

Trust me dude, women still take plenty of risks when it comes to dating. If you can’t understand that, then you are just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:37 PM
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The Tea app photos you’re talking about were obviously cherry picked to show some of the least attractive women and they are putting up photos taken in the privacy of the woman’s own home, used simply to verify their identities… Terrible lighting, terrible angles, no makeup, etc. They are being put against more flattering photos that these men chose to put out publicly on their own dating apps. Not exactly a scientific study if you ask me. Women of all types used that app… Gorgeous women, skinny…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:35 PM
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I have no idea what point your little OkCupid chart is trying to make in relation to my comment, but did it ever occur to you that maybe this is a semi accurate depiction of the attractiveness levels when it comes to men and women. A lot of men just aren’t naturally that attractive physically. And women know that… Which is why it’s fairly common in the real world to see women in relationships with men who are below them on the attractiveness meter… however you rarely see men in committed relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:29 PM

Just because women wanted to be viewed as equals in the eyes of the law… To be able to vote, have a bank account, get a credit card, have a job, obtain birth control, buy property, etc.… Does not mean they wanted gender roles to become nonexistent. Just because women are now doing more and taking on more responsibility, doesn’t mean men should now be expected to do absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:59 PM

Why don’t you just date an autistic woman who you actually get along with and leave the ones who don’t like you alone instead of trying to “mask” yourself in an effort to manipulate them into wanting wanting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:32 PM
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This is hilarious, thank you so much for the laugh. Everything she just said and your response is “WRiTerS aRe BaD” because they drink and do drugs 🤣 I guess we should all stop reading then. And we should all definitely stop appreciating any form of art, because the statistics on artists are even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:01 PM
2

I legitimately don’t know what point you’re trying to make and I don’t even understand part of what you’re saying. Like maybe you’ve made some typos or something. Either way, I’m not talking about when you or I were children… I’m talking about historically… The days of old time past that so many of today’s young men seem to glorify as though if we could only go back to those times and put women back into their little boxes, then all their problems would be solved. These men are clueless about wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:43 PM
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I’m talking about dating in the real world not just the apps. All these studies you guys like to mention about dudes in the top 10% are just based on swiping patterns when women are on the apps… But most women aren’t actually on the apps anymore, and when they are on them, they aren’t taking it very seriously because dating apps have become trash. If you think you are going to find the love of your life by sliding into a strangers DM’s on Instagram or swiping through endless profiles on Tinder, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:36 PM
1

Dude, you are so clueless. They don’t want to wine and dine us. They want to fuck us and then never speak to us again. I know that sounds appealing to you, but I promise you that it isn’t appealing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:10 PM
1

How does a princess behave?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:07 PM
2

Look, if you want to lump yourself in with the category of men who are trash on the dating apps, that’s up to you. But I didn’t call you trash. You did. You clearly have no idea what women deal with on dating apps. How could you? Men swipe right on every single profile they see most of the time… They absolutely do open conversations with “hi” and I assure you they are not entertaining. We are not just sitting back being entertained, nor do we want to be. We have better things to do with our time…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:06 PM
1

Most women DO put effort into dating. I know you guys think that getting 100 likes a day is a good thing, but I assure you that it isn’t. We have to wade through a never-ending pool of trash in an effort to try and find the good men, and when we do, we take the time to have meaningful conversations with them, try to make ourselves look physically appealing, take the time and risk to meet them in person, etc. We essentially put in the exact same amount of effort as men do when it comes to early s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:45 PM
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I think this wildly depends on age. The average 20-30 something man HAS gotten laid and can do so when he puts in some effort with the right woman. But he’s not hooking up with a new woman every weekend. The average young man, age 16 to 20, has probably not gotten laid yet. Especially not today’s generation of young people. Either way, I don’t care what these men think or how they feel. If they believe that it is their right or a desirable trait to be able and willing to “pump and dump“ women as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:27 PM
1

It’s both, you fool. Snowboarding, for example, is a shit ton of fun, but it also requires a lot of effort. You have to make money to purchase gear and ski passes, pay for transportation, etc. You have to make an effort to be physically in shape enough to do it. You have to actually learn how to do it, which is incredibly challenging for most people. You have to invest the time to travel to the mountain, etc. It requires a significant amount of effort. But it’s also a hell of a lot of fun and we…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:14 PM
1

There is no study to my knowledge that can prove or disprove this claim. I am basing my opinion on my own life experience and observational skills. It’s a well known standard cliché/stereotype that people like to claim that women are more “nurturing“ and more “emotional“. I think this is all just a nice way of saying that men don’t really care as much about things that don’t affect them directly and they aren’t as empathetic. I also think it doesn’t necessarily only have to do with the notion th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:06 PM
2

Yeah, I will never understand this. Like I know that there are women out there who are miserable to try and talk to… They don’t put anything in their bio, they respond with one word answers, they have no sense of humor, no personality, make insane demands, etc. But like, they’re the one who swiped right on her… Why are you even trying to talk to them? It’s so desperate. It’s not like these women are hard to spot. Then, when they actually do meet the right woman, they end up treating her like shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:57 PM
2

Why on earth would someone want to commit to a romantic/sexual partnership when they’ve never even had sex with that person? That’s a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:54 PM
1

Women have the power to choose who they do or do not date, but they cannot make someone date them who doesn’t want to. Men have that exact same level power. Any man who literally gives upon dating because women possess the free choice to date or not date them, shouldn’t be in the dating pool and their genes should die off. It’s what they deserve. But those men aren’t quitting dating simply because women have the ability to choose, they are quitting because like life in general, it requires effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:53 PM
1

What do you mean specifically by “top-tier woman“? Do you mean that she’s hot? That she’s submissive? That she cooks and cleans? All of the above? The bottom line is that women in general don’t need men the way they used to and are often only dragged down by having them in their lives. Many of them are deciding that they just don’t want one anymore. They enjoy their solitude more than they enjoy having today’s average man in their life because those men don’t do much of anything to actually impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:44 PM
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You are wrong. Average men have more options than you think. Not all of them, but a lot of them will pretend to be super into a woman, get her to sleep with him maybe once… Maybe several times, maybe even have a little relationship for a while… Then,his confidence grows and he starts to think he can do better. Trust me, it’s a common trend. Ask any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:22 PM
1

You’re right, f*ck those kids. They should’ve had better moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:19 PM
1

Yes, I can. The same way menstruating is a basic part of life yet only half the population does it. The same way you guys consider a woman cooking, cleaning and destroying her body in order to give you a child to be basic parts of life. The physical risk women take being intimate with a man… he might get her pregnant, he might rape her, he might beat the shit out of her or he might even kill her. These are all basic parts of life that women face everyday. The least a man can do is be the one to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:17 PM
1

“Nothing seems to have equalized in areas where women had the advantage”? What are you talking about? All I see, in general, is women getting stronger and men getting weaker. For women, “feminism” actually results in them typically doing far more work… Now, not only do they still do most of the child raising and domestic work, but they also work and contribute significantly to the bills. When they are younger, they are typically expected to go to school, then get a job, support themselves and li…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:12 PM
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I’m in my early 40’s… but I’m talking about before either of our lifetimes. Many men today act like they have it so rough when it comes to dating or just getting laid because women have rights now and can make their own decisions, but they appear to give no thought to how hard things would have been for them back then as well. Today’s average American man below 40ish (basically the ones who never didn’t have the internet), are weak, lazy and could never have even survived back then. Yet they sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:46 PM
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Women do not keep men from rising up. You do that to yourselves. You are giving women far too much credit. They don’t have that much power.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:40 PM
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You think that if you go on a date with a woman and she doesn’t commit to you then that means she “used” you? Something tells me these women are not trying to use you for a free meal… They’re probably trying to go on a date with you to get to know you and then, based on your vibes, once they get to know you, they bail. That’s not the same thing as getting used. That’s just getting rejected. Try not treating a date like a transactional arrangement and you might have better luck. It’s your fault. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:36 PM
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I’ve already addressed this. Typically, tens do not need to lie to women in order to get laid and most women who hook up with 10s know that it’s never going to go anywhere. It’s the average men… The fives and sixes who pretend to care about them and lie to women in order to get laid and then ghost them as soon as they get what they want. You would be shocked if you actually knew some of the hoops these men will jump through to get laid… even with a woman who is incredibly annoying and whose pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:29 PM
1

Like I already said, most women are not complaining about the 10/10 guy using them for sex. They aren’t stupid. They know what’s going on. It’s the normal average guys that lie to them and pretend to actually care about them, sleep with them and then ghost them the next day… That’s what most women complain about. Average men have to lie to women and pretend to care about them in order to get laid and a lot of them have no problem doing that. The “top 10% of men” do not have to lie in order to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:15 PM
1

Their dad died, you lunatic. And my friend didn’t raise them, their elderly grandmother did. He adopted the little girl for like four or five years until she hit 18. But he didn’t raise them and he wasn’t cuck. Something tells me that you are not the kind of man that’s not going to ever be knocking up any hot chicks. But keep dreaming “stud“.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:07 PM
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I don’t think you’re understanding how a lot of women feel about this. I can’t speak for all women, but for me… I do want to get into a relationship. Very much. But I’m not going to get into a relationship just with any random man for the sake of it. I do not want to spend my life with a cowardly man who sits on the sidelines pouting like a child about how women are equal now so they should ask the man out and be held “accountable” for their equality. I want the kind of man that sees a woman he’…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:03 PM
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So because we have climate change and unchecked capitalism, you feel like you shouldn’t have to put in any effort to find a partner? It sounds like you don’t have a problem with the actual process of dating, what you have a problem with is accepting rejection. Did someone somewhere when you were younger tell you that you were just going to meet the love of your life on the first or second try? Do you think that women don’t deal with heartbreak and rejection as well? It’s just a part of life, dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:18 PM
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Yeah, it’s getting really sad. This guy describes the very basic process of dating as painful and demoralizing. I don’t know what he expects, but I guess he thinks he should just be issued a random woman without putting in any effort to find one he actually loves and who loves him back. These men are so delusional when it comes to what previous generations of men had to go through when it came to dating… You had to prove you could provide for a woman, get the approval of not only her, but her fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:42 PM
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Well, I’m talking about volunteering for the big Brother program where they specifically vet their volunteers. Not just smiling at random kids in the grocery store… i’m talking about making an active effort in your community to mentor and support boys who don’t have other men in their lives. Making silly faces at an unknown baby in the grocery store does nothing to help your community and it’s irrelevant to this conversation. There’s a massive amount of young boys in America, who do not have pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:54 PM
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Yeah, I’m not suggesting that you just go up to random children in public. This is about the big brother program and volunteering for that. Their volunteers are vetted and matched with specific children. We’re not talking about men just randomly approaching strange children at the park. You definitely shouldn’t do that. The bottom line is that men rarely volunteer for these programs because most of them just don’t care. You can say it’s because they are afraid of being labeled a pedophile, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:14 PM
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He got called out in the middle of a fair? What are you even talking about? Also, my friend joined the big Brother program well before he built his business and my point wasn’t that being well-known or respected in the community gave him protection to do this, my point is that it’s something that respectable people do and people aren’t going to automatically assume you’re a pedophile because of it. Pedophiles typically work below the surface, not in broad daylight. If you go on a date with a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:16 PM
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A man is not a piece of shit for wanting casual sexual partners just to enjoy sex with… Neither is a woman who wants this. They become a piece of shit when they lie about it and act like they want more in order to manipulate someone into sleeping with them. As a woman who actually dates men, trust me when I tell you that the men with less options are the ones who are more likely to lie in order to get casual sex. The 10/10 men don’t need to bother lying. Either way, you are basically implying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 11:52 AM
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I have a longtime friend who is a well respected business owner and he volunteered for the big brother program a long time ago. He did this because he’s very active in his community and he actually cares about people. His own father wasn’t there for him and he doesn’t have children of his own, so he volunteered. He ended up forming an amazing bond with his “adopted brother” who is now an adult himself and he eventually adopted the boy’s little sister when their grandmother became too sick to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 11:12 AM
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I agree that some women are a little bit crazy when it comes to being attracted to extremely handsome men, sleeping with them, and then acting surprised when those men drop them for better options. The same exact way some men are a little bit crazy for desiring a super hot woman, marrying her, having kids with her, and then playing the victim when she divorces him, takes his money and leaves him for a better, wealthier man. This is a human problem, not a gender problem. But for the most part, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:26 AM
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I’m sorry, but this is absolutely terrible advice. Stay away from quality men that other women want?? So are you implying that any man who has options is going to be a piece of shit? You’re implying that women need to date a man so beneath her that he has no other options and this is the only way she can expect to be treated well by a man? That really doesn’t say anything good about the male species in general, does it? Ask your father to check him out? Number one, my father is dead. Number two,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:14 AM
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I see dating apps a bit differently. On dating apps you’ve both already expressed interest in each other by matching and chatting. I’ve asked a few guys if they wanted to meet for a drink or whatever, just because I have no patience for chatting with strangers for more than a few days and I’d rather just get on with it instead of spending the next few weeks going back and forth with some guy I don’t even know. But I think that’s completely different from just walking up to some random guy you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:22 AM
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Was he just a random stranger to you at the time or did you already know him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:20 PM
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I’m genuinely curious what “actions” you expect women to look for that help determine if a man is just going to hit and quit? Specifically, what hoops is she supposed to make him jump through before deeming him worthy of having sex with? An arbitrary amount of dates? Expensive dates? A verbal commitment? Like specifically, if you were a woman, how would you solve this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:18 PM
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Based on the context of this conversation, I was assuming that we were talking about American feminism and dating culture. Not Ukrainian. I highly doubt that many Ukrainian men are sitting on Reddit right now whining about how women won’t make the first move. Those men have no problem asking a woman out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:12 PM
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Yes, I would rather not take on that role. So I don’t. At the same time, I would rather make my own money and pay my own bills than rely on a man to do it for me, so I choose to take on that role for myself. I no longer expect a man to do that for me, but I do still expect him to have both the desire and the ability to simply express interest if he wants to date me. I personally don’t think that’s a very high bar to set. These are my choices. Just like you are able to make the choices you want i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:06 PM
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You are misunderstanding some really basic concepts here. I’m talking about what a woman wants in the man that she is going to date, fuck and eventually marry… when she’s looking for the man she might consider spending the rest of her life with and having his children, she is allowed to have expectations of that man and her doing so does not mean that she shouldn’t simultaneously be allowed to vote and be treated like an equal citizen in the eyes of the law. Feminism was about giving women equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:47 PM
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No. They just want a man who is interested enough to pursue them. She assumes that if he won’t even ask her out, then he must not be that interested, or he is just incredibly insecure. Also, women very much like to see HOW a man approaches her. Does he talk to her like she’s a human being or does he walk up with some garbage pick up artist line he heard from red pillers online. You learn a lot about a man when you see how he expresses interest in a woman. And the bottom line is that if you won’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:23 PM
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This just isn’t true. Women put in a fuck ton of effort. In their families, in work, in relationships, etc. The stats back that up. If anything, it’s modern men who no longer want to put in any effort. And I don’t even know what you are talking about when you say that men are meat shields getting slaughtered. That literally doesn’t even make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:04 PM
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I will never understand why some people think that it’s hypocritical for women to still want men to pursue them and treat them well just because we also simultaneously want the same legal rights as they have… to be viewed as equals in the eyes of the law is not too much to ask for and it doesn’t mean that every single gender/social norm has to be destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:38 PM
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Honestly, I think that in not all, but most cases, it does subconsciously make a man respect a woman less. And I also think that most of the men who are going to chime in here and say that isn’t true are only saying that because they’ve never actually had a woman ask them out before. And I’m not talking about a woman reciprocating with a man and asking him if he wants to hang out once they’re already dating… I’m talking about a woman just boldly walking up to a man she doesn’t already know and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:33 PM
1

With the exception of my very first boyfriend/lover and my last one (my most recent ex was a long time friend and it was a huge mistake)… all of my previous boyfriends stemmed from hooking up. I don’t typically get into relationships with people until well after I’ve hooked up with them. The hook up is one of many steps towards forming a relationship to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:43 PM

Absolutely not. It’s insane. I’ve been talking about this quite a bit lately. The whole red pill notion that if women would just date the little nerdy guys, then we would be set for life with perfect prince charmings is absolutely ridiculous. Those men are riddled with insecurity and anger, and in my experience have been the most dangerous and hurtful ones you could possibly date. The bottom line is that you cannot determine how a person will treat you based on their looks. One of the main thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:34 PM

It seems like a lot of men, not all, but a lot are not only NOT direct about what they want in a relationship, but they aren’t even honest about it. These men will tell a woman what he thinks she wants to hear and then once he thinks he has her, he will slowly take off the mask. Also, the men looking for a “traditional partner” who stays home, doesn’t go out with her friends and doesn’t have a good career will almost always call the woman saying she doesn’t want to go 50-50 a “gold digger”. A lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:28 AM
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I was questioning OP’s claim when they said, “The fact there's still incels in 2025 at a time when sex is completely monetized and you could have sex everyday for less than a phonebill proves this.” Because it’s nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:42 PM

I think your last paragraph nailed it. The men you are talking about, not all men… But the men you are talking about, would be thrilled if they had a woman to pay half the bills and do the majority of the house work… As long as she has sex with him regularly, I don’t think he actually gives a damn how she really feels about him and would be very happy if she just left him alone the rest of the time to play his video games or whatever it is he does. You just described their ideal relationship and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:46 AM
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Not back then, it didn’t. Children were raised much differently. Food, shelter and discipline were all that were really expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:13 PM
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This is not the solution. Those poor children do not deserve that. My strategy… As a woman… I have chosen not to have children, and I refuse to date single fathers (full time or part time dads). I’ve learned that if the mother of their own children doesn’t want them, then it’s highly unlikely that I’m going to want them either, so I don’t even bother with them anymore. And I perfectly understand if men feel the same way about single mothers… If I were a single child free man, I wouldn’t date one…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:10 PM
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Agree to disagree. Women in general possess far more emotional depth and empathy than men in general. Which is why they’re able to form friendships with one another and support each other… it’s why you hear so much these days about a male loneliness epidemic, but not much about a female loneliness epidemic. The difference now is that western women no longer need men for domestic or financial purposes, so they’re far less likely to put up with what women before them would. It’s not that they aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:29 PM
2

Western women have little appreciation for polarity or emotional depth in men because the majority of western men do not possess these traits (or if they do, they don’t demonstrate it), so many women have come to believe that men aren’t even capable of possessing these traits. Many women, anecdotally in their personal lives, have come to learn this and ultimately decide that if a man is not going to meet her emotional needs, then he at least needs to meet her physical desires. Which is why I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:52 PM
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As a woman, can I just say… A lot of us women have been trying to tell you guys that all along and many of you just won’t listen. The things women say online or regarding dating app swipes just aren’t true… it might be true when it comes to making snap judgments about strangers, but not in real life with men they actually know and like. All that stuff goes out the window if they like you and a lot of it has to do with your personality and how you make them feel… as long as you meet their baselin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:50 PM
1

Well, I’m all for legalizing sex work, but from what I’ve observed, most of the men you are talking about are extremely judgmental when it comes to sex positive women. Criticizing body counts and talking about their inability to “pair bond“. A lot of these men just don’t make any sense. They want women to be easy for them, but somehow virgins at the same time. Never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:20 AM
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I don’t know. Maybe some men. But a lot of them would just want more sex with more women. More more more. It’s the American way. Human nature. And they’d probably grow even more entitled in other areas of their lives as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:37 AM
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I kind of agree with you, but I think you’ve got it backwards. Instead of saying that “if the vast majority of men got laid easily, the United States would be a quasi socialist country”… What you should say is that “if the United States were a quasi socialist country, then the vast majority of men would get ladies easily.” I do not think that men having easy quick access to sex would make them any smarter, more empathetic or more concerned with the needs of their community. Nothing would change …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:54 AM
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This is not something you should worry too much about because every woman is going to feel differently about it. For example, at 24, I had already had an active sex live for 8 years. I was confident in my sexuality and view sex as an incredibly important part of a relationship. I would not have been interested in “taking it slow“ because I don’t like developing a strong emotional connection to somebody without establishing physical compatibility as well. And honestly I would get bored and frustr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:24 AM
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I don’t think your cousin likes you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:29 AM

I’m not reading all that… It’s like 30 pages of some random dissertation from nearly 15 years ago… From Houston. I don’t care what you think or what statistics you are choosing to cherry pick. It sounds like you are confusing household income with a woman’s sole income when you say that married women make more money than single women. You’re also probably not considering the extreme increase in expenses and lost wages when they have children, which certainly removes the vast majority of the incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:42 AM

In my case, usually their early to mid-forties. And I should reiterate, it’s not this behavior in general that perplexes me… It’s how many of them seem to have turned around either a few weeks or a few months later just automatically expecting me to want to instantly fall into a relationship with them because that’s what they decided they now want… and they seem genuinely surprised or even irritated when I’m not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:48 AM

Again, just because a woman enjoys sex and is willing to engage in casual relationships, doesn’t mean she’s a slut… And men who believe this are typically not men that most women want. To me, a “slut” is a woman who uses sex solely to gain something from a man, cheats on her partner, or will have sexual relationships with innapropriate partners (sleeping with half the guys in the office, for example). But that’s not what we’re talking about… we’re talking about women who enjoy sex and won’t live…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:32 AM

I think that might be part of the problem. Maybe a miscommunication. Not all, but most women DO want a relationship… But they do not want a relationship from the majority of men they go on dates with. And in a lot of cases, they don’t even want a relationship with a lot of the men they sleep with. It’s this fact that men can’t cope with… the fact that we usually DO want a relationship, just not necessarily with you. Typically, men who will refer to women as “sluts” because they enjoy having sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:17 AM

Definitely. I think what sometimes frustrates me about it is that by then, it’s too late. I have no interest in them because they’ve already treated me with a certain level of indifference that I can only feel that way towards them. I accept that indifference, reciprocate it (because we’re just casual) and THEN they expect me to suddenly care about them when they’ve done nothing to actually make me care about them. It’s like, no dude… you’ve been placed in the casual boy category. Like you said……
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:14 AM

I think maybe I’ve just become a bit odd in my “old age” (early 40’s)… to me, there are a lot of men out there who are really fun to hang out with, reasonably good in bed and I enjoy spending time with them… But they’d make absolutely shitty partners. And as I’ve gotten older, it’s become a lot easier to identify them. I don’t mind dating these men casually, but I will not commit to them. I want my next relationship to be my last relationship… even if that means I never have another relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:21 AM

I’d love to see the stats backing up this claim
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:33 AM

Actually, these days, women stand to lose significantly in a committed relationship when it comes to finances… atleast if children or other domestic duties are involved. Women with no children and no husbands, who can go wherever they want and do whatever they want have the potential to drastically improve their careers versus women who choose to tie themselves down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:32 AM

Dude, that was kind of the point of her initial post. These women don’t want commitment from these men. Why is that such a hard concept to understand? Why do so many men insist on telling women they’re wrong about what they themselves want? It’s just sad denial and cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:28 AM

Same… I’ve been dating casually on and off for a few years now since my last relationship ended and I’ve been surprised by how many of them have just assumed that I instantly want a relationship with them just because I’m willing to sleep with them. I’ve had to very politely explain three different times now to three different men that yes, in the long-term, I do want a serious relationship… But not with them. They seriously don’t get it. A lot of them think that we will just get into a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:22 AM
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1: Most of the single men you are thinking of actually can’t afford to support a whole other person, let alone give them a “good life”. 2: There are ways to be a sex worker and still keep yourself relatively safe. Most women who are murdered by men are murdered by men they are actually in a relationship with… Not some random paid hookup. 3: It’s one thing to sleep with a man you are not sexually attracted to in exchange for money (and then leave)… But it’s another completely different thing to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:04 PM
1

I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. When did I say anything about ghosting? Seriously no idea what you’re talking about… If a woman is completely not responding to you, then how is it you that’s rejecting her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:18 AM
0

Yeah, I’m not saying all men or all incels. But the same way some women only go for men way out of their league, so do some men when it comes to women. My overall point is that a lot of the men you hear complaining about these things online typically fail to acknowledge that what they are complaining about are human characteristics, not “female“ characteristics. I think most of them would be much better adjusted individuals and stand a stronger chance at finding peace and happiness if they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:55 AM
1

I wrote mostly about the dating app situation because that’s the specific comment I was responding to. Sorry, thought that would be pretty obvious if you were reading the thread. And I think I already mentioned it, but maybe that was a different thread… but I personally do not have a problem with men matching with me and then them not being interested. I can’t really comment on that topic very heavily other than to say that I know that men do it often and that I am facing my agreement with OP mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:58 PM
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I seriously have no idea what you’re talking about. I said this wasn’t about dating apps first of all. Second of all, how in the hell is a man supposed to filter his matches based on her responsiveness? You don’t even start messaging someone until after you match. Have you ever even used a dating app? Have you ever even matched with someone and had a conversation? It doesn’t sound like it. I also didn’t say anything about men not wanting conversations with me. That is not a problem that I have. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:47 PM
5

First of all, this is about real life, not dating apps. Most women aren’t even on dating apps and the ones who are get exhausted very quickly and usually stop participating. Second of all, those statistics mean nothing because most men just swipe right on every profile and then filter from there based on the few matches they get in return. Any time I hear a man quoting statistics about dating app swipes as though it’s a strong indicator of actual real life when it comes to the way genders intera…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:23 PM
1

This is so true. The exact opposite, but simultaneously the same argument they often make about how women choose men… They say women just need to choose better men, but then they themselves choose to go after social media obsessed women with Botox, fake hair, fake nails, fake tits, BBL‘s and porn star aesthetics… then they complain that “all women” are trashy materialistic gold digging single moms who only want them for their “resources”. But it’s because they are only interested in super hot ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:18 PM
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Yeah, that’s one of many reasons why I think that little 14 year-old study might be flawed and doesn’t prove what you think it proves. And you’re the one who hasn’t responded to my actual points. Maybe that’s because you don’t understand what I’m saying, or maybe because you just don’t care. Doesn’t really matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:18 PM
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Yeah, dude, sorry, but I’m not reading all that. I did notice this part though, “Dual-income fathers have more leisure time than mothers; the gap is about 4.5 hours per week”. I would guess that for ALOT of women, it’s way more than an additional 4.5 hours a week / 18 hours a month… but even that is a massive difference. Would love to see some updated statistics on this that aren’t over a decade old and like I said, focused specifically on how much work a woman does around the house when her and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:14 AM
3

Yes, I do apply this logic the other way… because it’s the truth. It’s why I personally despise women who make false accusations against men, or accuse them of being creepy just because they tried to talk to them. Their shitty behavior actively harms other women and it pisses me off. I desperately want women online to start calling out other women when they post those stupid videos, talking shit because a man just tried to talk to her. Yes, there have been a lot of videos come out that show men …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:58 AM
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You are not addressing my point. You’re kind of just arguing into the void. Got any stats regarding the amount of hours women who work full time put in around the house compared to their boyfriends or husbands? Your stats are including housewives as well… it skews the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:41 AM
2

I wasn’t proven wrong on anything, you fool. This is apparent in not only what young men are actually saying/doing in real life, but by the content they choose to consume and the candidates they choose to vote for. It isn’t all men, of course… But it is an alarming number of them. It’s very much common knowledge at this point what these men want. Most of them are upset because they can’t have it. They might be accepting that, but it doesn’t mean it’s not what they want. It’s one of many reasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:34 AM
5

Wait, what? Are you saying that men spend 30% of their time on household chores while women spend 60%? So women on average do twice as much work around the house as men do? Those are pretty outdated stats either way, but I don’t think they prove the point you’re trying to make. I would also be curious to see those numbers if they were broken down based on only the women who work full-time compared to their partners who also work full-time… Sounds to me like they are including the women who don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:26 AM
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No, I’m not. I’m trying to explain to you why some women have this standard. It’s not because they are incapable of doing it themselves, it’s because they want to know that a man can do so as well. I personally have no problem leading the situation… I never run out of ideas for places to go eat or fun things to do. But if I’m the only one ever suggesting anything, then I’m going to get really, really bored with him. These women are just simply trying to have a certain bar met before they waste t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:49 AM
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You’re not understanding me… I’m saying that we are told that our entire lives. By our fathers, mothers, our friends and all of society. And then often times, when women do approach men, it is CONFIRMED TO BE TRUE. Women who are regularly confident enough to just approach random men and express interest in them are often treated like absolute trash. A man will absolutely fuck that woman, but he will never treat her with respect. She’s not “wifey“ material to them. If you can’t acknowledge that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:43 AM
1

If a man were legitimately pointing out men the types of men who should be avoided, why would he care if those same men criticized him for it? Are men so weak now that they are afraid of a little online criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:35 AM
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I legitimately don’t know what you mean by “make sure she is OK and comfortable“. Again, you’re really not being very specific. Some women may expect a man to pay for everything when dating (and I disagree with those women, but I believe they would quickly change their tune if men would just stop dating them… Which they won’t do because those are usually very very hot women), but the vast majority of women I know don’t expect that. When it comes to finances, they just want a man who is financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:33 AM
1

Yeah, it sucks. But I’m talking about why women specifically lose interest in cold approaching men on the street. It’s because for most women, when they have done this in the past, it has usually not gone well at all for them. I’m not saying that it causes them to hate men all together, but it teaches them to be more cautious and let them approach. They want to see how they approach and they want to know that the guy is actually interested in her enough to approach. Not only that, but they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:26 AM
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No, I mean specifically. What do they mean when they say “lead”. That’s an incredibly vague term. Have you even bothered to ask what they mean by that? It sounds like you think they are asking for something unreasonable and I’m genuinely curious what they are asking for that you find unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:11 AM
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Well, from my perspective, I see a lot of men who are still like their grandfathers, or wanting to be like their grandfather‘s. The only thing that makes them different from their grandfather’s is that they can’t get a woman now so they are alone. The reason they are alone is because they haven’t adapted and still expect women to be like their grandmothers. Now they’re getting angry because they can’t get any woman at all. So no, men really can’t afford to be like their grandfather’s… But they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:10 AM
2

I believe the toxic women should be blamed when they treat men poorly. I believe that women who stay with toxic men should eventually be blamed for the trajectory of their own life for choosing to stay. But I think it’s perfectly reasonable when certain women are treated poorly enough times by men… They eventually assume all men will treat them that way, so they no longer feel safe initiating with them. It’s common knowledge that men in general will sleep with almost any woman who will let them……
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:07 AM
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You’re talking about two different things. There are both men and women influencers online who are making a killing by each continuing to just say crazier and crazier shit. It’s bad for both men and women. I have no respect for either gender who does this. It’s melting the brains of an entire generation. On the other hand, I was also talking about the majority of young men in real life… Not on social media. It’s very common knowledge that a lot of men these days do very much expect to go to work…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:03 AM
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What are the real women in your life asking for that you think is too much? Specifically? And I’m not talking about those idiots on those red pill podcast talking about wanting a man who makes 1,000,000+ a year. I’m talking about real women in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:59 AM
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I’m not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:57 AM
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No, most women will not take the lead. It’s not because we are incapable of doing so or scared of rejection as many men claim… It’s simply because we usually don’t want to. It’s very rare to meet a man that we feel like actually pursuing. And then, unfortunately, when a lot of women do try to “take the lead”, most men just use them for sex or treat them like they are desperate or needy. A lot of women have learned not to do this for that very reason. Unfortunately, it is true that some men pay t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:53 AM
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No, I’m referring to the women I know in real life. But I’m probably much older than you, which is why we won’t see eye to eye on that. Young women on social media are seeking nothing but clicks and likes, so they say alot of stupid shit. It’s unlikely that you actually know many women in real life, but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:50 AM
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You seem really out of touch. Honestly, like you are either really old or really young. Men aren’t telling women to stay home and not work anymore because they need a woman’s income. The vast majority of men cannot support a family on one income anymore. The problem arises when a man expects a woman to work full-time just like he does… But when she comes home from work, she’s also supposed to cook, clean and take care of the children while he sits around playing video games or watching football.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:11 AM
1

Unfortunately, this mentality has spread quite quickly. Depending on your age bracket, it’s absolutely not a minority of men that think this way these days. I’m grateful to be dating in my 40s, but if I were in my 20s, I probably would’ve given up… Almost all of them are chronically online. The men and the women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:00 PM
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I hear other women talk about it all the time. The “unattractive“ ones can sometimes be even worse. If they have deep insecurities, which a lot of them do, they are a nightmare to try to date. They can actually be the most dangerous ones there are. I’ve experienced this myself as well. Just because a man isn’t conventionally attractive doesn’t mean he is a good guy. And just because a man is attractive doesn’t mean he’s a bad guy. You just can’t judge a book by its cover. It doesn’t work that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:56 PM
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I was going to say the same exact thing. The vast majority of women aren’t even on Tinder. And they sure as hell aren’t at Coachella. The internet really is destroying some people’s brains and it breaks my heart for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:53 PM

I actually agree with you and regardless of whether or not there’s data to back it up, I have always considered people with less sexual experience to be more likely to cheat. They’re more likely to feel like they have been missing out on something and get curious… and as soon as someone is willing to let them, they are more likely to take the opportunity to cheat versus someone who has had a lot of experiences and is now actively choosing to be with one person. The person with more experience kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:45 AM

Obviously, you shouldn’t sleep with someone if you don’t want to, but if we are just simply talking strategy here, yes… It’s actually the best way to determine their intentions really quickly. If they were only there for sex, then you will know right away and can just move on to the next one. If they actually like you, you’ll know it. It’s not until after you have had sex with a man that you get to see who he really is and what he really wants. It also prevents you from getting emotionally attac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:33 AM
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I’ve been trying to figure out how to explain this to men for so long. So many of them seem to be under the impression that women just see an attractive man and are automatically sexually attracted to him and would just drop everything to sleep with him (the way men are with women). I’ve had a male friend tell me how he doesn’t care if a woman is stupid or not or what her political or religious views are… He would sleep with her and even be in a relationship with her regardless as long as she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:47 PM
1

Me personally, I put them in the following categories. It’s mostly subconscious, but the more I’ve been thinking about men and dating this last year, the more I have realized that this is how my head works. Undateable and unfuckable... I don’t find him physically attractive at all (probably 30% of men), he talks or texts like an idiot (also 30% of men, but a different 30%). Severe mental health problems. Under the age of 30. Over the age of 60. Trump supporter. Fuckable, but not dateable… exclud…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:29 PM
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Honestly, and unfortunately, my advice to you would be to just end it now. Tell him his personality has completely changed and you can’t be with someone who views the world the way he now does. Tell him it’s an absolute dealbreaker and you won’t allow that negativity in your life and it’s caused you to lose all respect for him. Nothing more to discuss. It is incredibly unlikely that anything you say or do will snap him out of it because the whole ideology behind red pill logic means he will not …
/r/ExRedPill28/06/25 01:21 PM
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I have never in my life, just looked at a man and felt that way about him. Of course you need to be attracted to someone, but that’s just step one. Being physically attractive will only get you so far. There are countless attractive men that I would have absolutely no interest in being with or even talking to. For myself, and a lot of women, that feeling is something that develops based on how a man makes you feel when you are around him. The sound of his voice, the way he smells, the things he …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:46 AM
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It’s not that I think that I AM entitled to this, it’s that I think that young men are entitled to it. They need to be told the truth… not just coddled by grifters looking to stoke their fears and tell them what they want to hear just to make a profit off of them. I don’t think men should be held accountable for how they are born, but for how they behave. I don’t believe that men are born to be this way… but many of them are taught to be and they need to be “untaught” if they ever hope to have f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:16 AM
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These men are the ones insisting on shaming themselves. They “out” themselves through their own words and their own actions. OP is absolutely right and more men need to call to their fellow men out… far too many of them believe that a relationship and a family are things they are just supposed to be entitled to with little to no effort on their part and they become consumed with anger and jealousy when they don’t get it and the only men “speaking” to them are online grifters trying to make money…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:28 PM
1

I agree. Especially once Trump’s deportations start to affect our workforce and therefore our food supply. Tariffs are far from our only concern. Him and his billionaires will not be the ones going hungry. It’s not going to be pretty. He’s getting America used to and acclimating us to military presence in our daily lives now. We are the frogs in the boiling pot of water and most of us haven’t even realized it yet. It’s such a basic strategy that it’s embarrassing. But I t’s actually working… He …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:31 PM
1

This is going to depend heavily on who you ask. But to people who do care about what’s going on in the world around them, they are typically not going to be mentally stimulated by people who don’t. They might even view them as stupid or selfish. If you say you are “apolitical“, to them, you are saying that you either don’t care or it’s too complicated for you to even think about. Which is fine if that’s how you feel about it, but not everybody is going to like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:59 AM
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People do not generally accuse men of mansplaining for simply sharing their opinions. Mansplaining is commonly referred to when a man is attempting to explain to a woman how to do something or how something works like she’s an idiot. Typically when she’s familiar with a subject equal to or often better than him. Like a co-worker trying to tell her how to do her job unnecessarily or a man attempting to explain to a woman how her own menstrual cycle works when he can’t even define a uterus. The te…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:40 AM
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I think most women just prefer a man who knows what he wants and isn’t afraid to go after it. He’s also capable of calmly walking away if someone doesn’t reciprocate or treats him poorly. He’s not afraid to express his interest in someone or something because he’s not afraid of being rejected. Some men attempt to fake this type of confidence, but only manage to portray a sense of unearned entitlement instead. Women also like a man who is in control of his emotions, but that doesn’t mean they lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:23 AM
1

The problem is that a lot of men don’t stop once they get into a relationship. Their brains become hardwired to be addicted to porn/only fans. A lot of women do not like their men consuming this content because it directly affects their performance in the bedroom (in a very very bad way) and honestly, it just makes a lot of women jealous because of their own insecurities. It makes them feel like they are not “enough” for their man. If the majority of the female population were watching porn and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:46 AM
1

What about women who weren’t born attractive? What about women who have turned 30 years old and “hit the wall” as you guys like to say? What about women who are infertile and can’t have children? Women have been commodified throughout history… It is only very recently that we have the ability to survive and thrive in this world based on our actual capabilities versus traits we were born with or without and cannot control. And you seem to think that it’s a bad thing that society has evolved this …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:40 AM
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I’m 100% in support of the protesters in LA and around the country, but I am very fearful that a combination of a few fed up protesters as well as right wing agitators/provocateurs are going to push things too far and give Trump the excuse he needs to declare martial law. I think these protests might evolve to the level where a lot people die… Potentially unlike anything we’ve seen yet in this country’s history. It will give Trump the excuse and the power he needs to really truly destroy what’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:35 AM
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Dude, you’re trying so hard to get it but you just aren’t. Women have always had to “transform into a commodity“ to be successful in dating/relationships. You say, “The corporate state wants to turn men into instruments of production which are easily replaceable. Just as your employer will easily replace you with a better, younger, more desperate person so will a woman. In the future, men will own literally nothing.” … it’s insane that you would say that without acknowledging that this is the li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:30 AM
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A lot of scenarios have happened in real life… But they are incredibly rare and shouldn’t be discussed as though they are common issues between the genders. In this hypothetical scenario, why would a man enter into a relationship with a woman who refuses to sleep with him? Why bother? It’s just a really really weird thing to post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:12 PM
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This is a really weird fake scenario you’ve created here. Why would either one of these hypothetical people want to be in a relationship with the other one? None of this makes any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:41 AM
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You definitely still need to be working towards your own financial future. You two could break up, she could get sick and need you to become the financial breadwinner… She could die. Anything could happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:31 AM
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As long as you are working towards becoming financially independent and are contributing around the house, then I really wouldn’t worry too much about it. But if you being there adds more work to her plate versus removing work, then you are going to run into problems. Just make sure her life is easier with you in it… Not harder. Because yours sure is easier with her in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:30 AM
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No, I think what women commonly complain about is men lying to them and pretending to be looking for commitments when they are actually just looking for sex. Women don’t need to do this, nor would most of us even if we did. We’re just honest with men when we only want them for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:27 AM
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Yeah, count me in that category. I would absolutely love to be a dad. No joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:18 PM
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As a millennial woman, I can tell you that this is absolutely not true. I absolutely do not want children. Do you have any concept of how large a burden it is to have children? …specifically for women? Men often make this mistake when thinking they actually know what women want because to men, having children really isn’t that big of a deal. Men typically think of children and imagine playing football in the yard, walking their daughters down the aisle, teaching their son how to drive, etc. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:41 PM
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Does it ever occur to some of you guys that it might be the women doing the pumping and dumping in a lot of these scenarios? A lot of of these “Chads“ y’all like to look up to so much are men that women will happily sleep with because they were lucky enough to have been born attractive, but the women dump them when they realize that they are dumb as a bag of rocks or end up being terrible in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:30 PM
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What you do or say can and will directly impact whether or not she’s interested. Seems like a simple concept to me. I’m not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to figure out, but if you want to improve your chances of a woman replying to you then you have to make sure and give her something to reply to. If she asks you a question, then don’t just answer it, but also ask her a question in return. I’m consistently shocked by how many grown men don’t seem to understand how basic convers…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/25 11:58 PM
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I think it’s normal for a lot of men to want to date women half their age… it’s just not normal for them to be able to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:45 AM
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Yeah, I caught that as well… Kind of a strange thing to say. Also, I’m pretty sure that women have been “accepting” men’s preferences for a really, really really long time now. Doesn’t mean we won’t make fun of them and think they’re gross for it, but we’ve definitely accepted it at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:08 AM
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I really don’t care about any of it personally, but I do find it amusing that so many men will say there is nothing wrong with a 40-something-year-old man dating a 19/20 year-old… Until their own daughter starts dating a 40-something-year-old man. Then, they usually feel quite differently about it. Either way… Men are shallow, women are shallow, people in general are shallow. People are entitled to make decisions based on their preferences, and other people are entitled to judge you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:03 AM

Maybe if you make 100K a year and live somewhere like Oklahoma. But again, that’s not the average man. The average man in the entirety of America, including high and low cost living areas only makes approximately 67,000 a year. Only 25% make 100,000 or more. And again, those men don’t need to hire surrogates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:03 PM

This is just really weird advice. The mid-range cost to produce a child this way with a surrogate would be about $150,000… But likely much higher. Then the cost to raise one child as a single parent in this country is near $400,000, but again can fluctuate and will only get higher and higher every year. That’s not even taking into account the mental/emotional burden he would be placed under while trying to work enough to provide all of this financially and single-handedly raising a child. Men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:42 PM

Well, the average man genetically isn’t (on average) wealthy either. It’s a very very small percentage of men who could actually afford to do this. And those men wouldn’t need to do it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:29 PM
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Yeah, speaking of which, I think someone should probably check this dude’s basement… Not just his hard drive (he only wants to “protect the birth givers”)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:51 PM

The AVERAGE man??? Do you have any idea how expensive it is to produce a child through surrogacy and then raise it? No average man can do that. Maybe if your mommy is willing to carry the baby for free and help you raise it, but if you have to actually pay for the surrogate and then continuously pay for childcare while you “work for it”, it’s literally not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:46 PM
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The delusion is actually getting scary at this point. I’m done telling these people to touch grass. I hope they stay in their basements forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:38 PM
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He’s “conducting experiments” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:35 PM
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You sound unhinged. It’s not discrimination. It’s just the simple fact that men are the ones that consume this content. If women chose to consume this content, then men would be able to produce it as well. That’s just capitalism. And no, every woman in the US does not have an OF account. Not even remotely close. For someone who claims to hate the platform so much, you sure do seem to claim to know a lot about it (even though you clearly don’t). You created an OF account to do an “experiment”? …s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:33 PM

You think the average man can afford to hire a surrogate and then raise a baby on his own? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:23 PM

If your only reason for dating is to “spread your genes”, then please, for the love of God, stop trying to date. Just step aside and leave the poor women alone. But also, you should probably be aware of the fact that sperm banks are actually more selective than most women are. They have strict requirements and most applicants are rejected based on health, genetics, education, sperm quality and yes… height. Even accepted donors aren’t guaranteed their sperm will be used, as only the most marketab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:20 PM
0

Since when do most men prioritize decency in dating? What planet is this occurring on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:05 PM
1

Whatever dude. If you make minimum wage and don’t live with your parents or mooch off of somebody else, then you are going to be broke. And just because somebody is mentally disabled or has children or is divorced, doesn’t mean they deserve to live in poverty. You sound like a pro-corporate bootlicker who’s never actually worked a day in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:24 PM
5

Yeah, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. He clearly has no idea what he’s talking about and probably lives with his parents or in some shit hole small town in rural America, where it cost nothing to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:21 PM
2

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:34 PM
3

You think somebody working two full-time jobs to make 60K per year isn’t broke? 60K after taxes does not go very far in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:30 PM
2

And most men these days actually benefit financially from their women… They don’t lose money because women typically contribute significantly to the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:26 PM
2

Whatever you say dude. No celebrity is going to fuck you for $500, but OK. You made it sound like you could pay to sleep with a woman every day for the cost of a cell phone bill. Now you’re making it sound like you would be spending about $1000 a month to sleep with a woman about three times a week. Whatever. I know words are hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:44 PM
2

Fair. But in its defense, my hypothetical robot wouldn’t ask me to do that. Robot +1 Man -1
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:44 PM
2

My phone bill is much less than this, but either way… you said every day. If your phone bill is $100 then this would be about $3.33 per day (per fuck). That’s not happening. Even if you meant $100 per day… That’s still probably not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:29 PM
3

I’d try (almost) anything once
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:27 PM
2

I mean you could be intimate with, fall in love with and not realize it’s not real. We are not there yet, but it will probably happen pretty fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:14 PM
3

It will eventually. But I’ll probably be dead by then. I do legitimately believe that they will eventually make robots that you cannot distinguish from other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:15 AM
6

That’s way more than my phone bill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:12 AM
7

Yeah, sign me up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:23 AM
16

I don’t know… If I legitimately couldn’t tell the difference, I might be interested in that 🤣 it sounds infinitely better than a long distance relationship and women engage in those all the time for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:50 AM
28

What do you mean in 2025 you could have sex every day for less than a phone bill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:48 AM
2

This. It’s essentially legal prostitution. I’m not saying it should be illegal, but these men should at least be honest with themselves about it. They don’t care if they have anything in common with these women and in a lot of cases, they don’t even like them. They just want someone who will pretend to be submissive, provide them with sex, domestic labor, and in some cases, children. I couldn’t care less as long as everyone is honest, but when they pretend it isn’t purely transactional, all I ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:17 AM

As a woman, I will say that women who think a man should pay for everything because she buys make up are just idiots. Usually very young social-media obsessed idiots. You should not listen to them, and you absolutely should not apply their logic to all (or even most) women. If a man wants a woman who is going to forgo her career to stay home, raise his children, cook, and clean, then he should pay for everything. Otherwise, finances and household chores should be equal. This is not a hard concep…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:18 AM
1

First of all the media barely even covers this topic considering how significant it really is. Second of all, the media gets basically everything wrong… Not just this. Nobody is needlessly demonizing incels and red pillers… They are doing that to themselves. People respond to them based on the words they use and their behavior. It’s literally that simple. If you don’t want to be treated like a red piller, then don’t act like one. Problem solved. And yes, of course not all men are violent and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:58 AM
1

You are all over the place and honestly it’s really hard to respond to your train of thoughts, but I’ll try. Nobody in their right mind claims that men can’t be treated poorly by women. Human beings treat other human beings poorly regardless of their gender. That’s just a fact you are going to have to accept. You are the one that sounds tone deaf if you think that a woman rejecting a man is even comparable to a man literally threatening the physical safety of a woman or acting as though he is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:27 AM
2

I’m not 100% sure what you are saying here, but I do believe there should be more opportunities for incels (and all men) to receive support. It seems like all they have right now (if they don’t have a good woman in their lives) are online echo chambers and grifter influencers looking to capitalize off of them. At the same time, I’m not sure that most of these men would even take advantage of the support if it were more readily available. But I don’t think that means we shouldn’t try. I’ve seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:12 AM
0

What you are talking about is incredibly uncommon and typically women who have been very seriously traumatized by men in the real world. They don’t just decide to think this way because they can’t get laid or have been constantly rejected by men on dating apps. And honestly, most are probably just trolls or bots, making it even more uncommon than it appears. There are a very, very, very, very small percentage of women who actually think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:01 AM
2

I agree for the most part, but I think the “patriarchs of yore” didn’t even give it that much thought honestly (they weren’t that smart). I think they just legitimately did not view women as human beings… Some individuals did of course, but men in general did not. I think what we are seeing now is men (in general) trying to cope with the realization that women have always been equal to, if not better than them in some cases and them being unable or unwilling to put in the effort it requires to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:26 PM
3

This is true. We do not want to fuck men we don’t respect. But instead of working to become men that we respect, they get angry and blame women for the fact that they never learned to function in life. Some of them going so far as to fall down the rabbit hole of thinking that the cause of their problems isn’t their own lack of effort, but the fact that women now have a choice in how they live their own lives. They actually believe that women should be forced to pair up with a man in order to sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:13 PM
8

The men that subscribe to this way of thinking know that women like this won’t tolerate them so they pretend like they don’t want them in the first place. They also know that one of those “feminine, traditional” women won’t stay with them because they aren’t capable of providing for her, so they become angry, bitter, and in some situations dangerous. This doesn’t describe all incels of course, just one of many subspecies of them. What’s wild to me is how they proclaim this nonsense proudly and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:05 PM
2

No. You are not correct. Most women put great effort into their relationships and making sure their men feel valued and loved. If your woman doesn’t do this, then you are with the wrong woman and the fault lies with you, not ask women in general. And if you actually use an old comedic bit from Chris Rock to shape your world view, then you are delusional. Women are absolutely not loved unconditionally. They are typically valued for their youth and fertility and often tossed aside once they no lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:10 PM
17

Typically, Dorothy is not a threat to other people and does not go online claiming that men should be forced to sleep with her. She responds by being depressed, gaining more weight and seeking companionship from her friends, her children and her pets… but she remains a functioning member of society and is kind to others. She doesn’t try to manipulate men or treat them like objects (usually). Bill often responds by becoming bitter, angry and ultimately dangerous. He engages in content advocating …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:00 PM
2

That’s not beside the point, because I was directly responding to OP’s post when you decided to chime in. Funny that you say you think his post was off the rocker, but it’s my comment you seem to take issue with, not his. And no, I don’t think that people can only speak up against injustice when it affects them directly. But I do think you sound ignorant if you are, in any way, trying to defend the original post. It makes me wonder what a man’s motivations are when they do something like this… L…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:26 PM
1

I actually care about this conversation, as it directly affects me because I am a woman and what this person is suggesting is legalized rape. You’re on here seemingly trying to defend the concept even though it’s an issue that doesn’t affect you at all. Who’s the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:58 AM
2

So what? Why do you care so much, dude? You wealthy? I honestly don’t care. If wealthy men decide to marry gold-digging trophy wives, then that’s their problem. When you treat a relationship as though it’s transactional, then that’s exactly what you are going to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:15 PM
8

Jesus dude. Most women do not get alimony these days and men can get alimony just like women can. It depends on the individual situations and I doubt you make enough money to ever have to pay anyone any alimony. Men who constantly complain about alimony online blow my mind… What kind of man would allow a woman, the mother of his child, to give up her career and potential future earnings to raise his children and then (regardless of the reason for their divorce), not care if she lives homeless an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:15 AM
10

We are aware of this, we just don’t care because it’s not our problem. We are not here for the sole purpose of helping men get laid easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:44 PM
1

I’m not being difficult, I legitimately don’t have TikTok so I can’t watch that video. But now it makes sense… I’m talking about real, regular women. Not TikTok grifters. The vast majority of women know this. They learn it very young. The vast majority of women posting this content also know this, they’re just doing it because it gets them clicks and views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:20 PM
1

Most women know this. I’m afraid your friend just isn’t one of them. But in all honesty, I’ll bet you she knows it… She’s just not admitting it to herself. At the same time, I do believe that one could easily make the argument that a man who will fuck a woman who he has no interest in while lying to her and leading her on to think that he does is definitely emotionally unavailable… It’s actually a pretty kind way to describe a man like that… emotionally broken is more like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:59 PM
1

Do you seriously believe women don’t already know this? We’re not stupid, dude. Most of us, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:37 AM
-1

You don’t seem to have a grasp on the reality of the situation for women in dating apps. You have tunnel vision thinking only of how bad men have it. I think you should set up a dating profile as a woman for just one week and see how it goes. Maybe then you’ll understand the swamp analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:25 PM
1

“Extra work”? 🤣 I’m too afraid to even ask what you consider that to be. Good luck out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:46 PM
1

Women do not expect men with small (or large) penises to be Superman. That’s nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:26 PM
1

Regardless of the size of your penis, you should be concerned with the sexual satisfaction of your partner. That is if you actually want to have and keep a sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:22 PM

“I actually disagree with this…” Next day… “Well I completely agree with you…” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:06 PM
1

So I bring up the problem in our society that there aren’t really any “third places” left anymore and your solution is to tell people to just get drunk before they go out… And then what? Just go stand around in a bar and try not to be weird? Good luck with that. In my city, I live downtown, and there isn’t even anywhere to go sit and hang out… except for a few parks, but most people there are not trying to meet people and socialize, they are just trying to relax with the friends they already cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:44 AM
2

The vast majority of women do not say that size doesn’t “matter at all“. Most of them say that bigger is not always better, there is such a thing as too big and average is absolutely fine. They will admit that small/micro penises can be a problem, but get annoyed when average men blame the size of their dick for their shortcomings in bed. For the vast majority of men who are bad in bed, it has nothing to do with the size of their dick. It’s just them… they don’t care to try or learn anything. Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:08 PM
0

Yes, of course there are toxic women who treat men badly when they show emotion. But not nearly as many men who treat other men badly when they show emotion. There’s also a lot of men who beat and r*pe women. There are terrible people on both sides. There always has been and always will be. But I’m talking about sane, normal people. When people (almost always men) try to make the claim that women, in general, don’t want men to express their emotions, they are either red pill grifters trying to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:55 PM
-1

Again, they are unaffordable for a lot of people in my city. Parking alone can make it cost prohibitive. And it’s not something that people can plan on doing on a regular basis, either way. You’re ignoring the entirety of my comment, sidestepping the entire point and focusing on one night you had a year ago with a random guy at a street fair and whether or not you consider them to be “affordable” or not. Your anecdotal experience is irrelevant when discussing the big picture and root causes of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:37 PM
1

You sound incredibly naive and disconnected from the reality in which most people live. People should definitely get out of their houses more often and mingle within their communities, but your fixation on random occasional street fairs is odd. Street fairs aren’t even that common in most places and honestly, most people find them incredibly boring. Glad you had a good night though. At a street fair. A year ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:49 PM
3

Honest question… This guy you met at this street fair when you had a great night… Was he not buying your drinks? Either way, a bottle of water at a street fair in my city would probably cost 6+ dollars. That’s after you paid $10-$15 just to park. But I’m happy to hear that you once had a nice experience at a street fair for only seven dollars. Regardless, I don’t think telling today’s young men that going and wandering around random street fairs (that typically only happen occasionally) with a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:59 PM
3

Depends on the street fair I guess, but if you actually want to have anything to drink, eat something, do anything or buy anything, they’re actually pretty expensive. At least in my city.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:35 PM
1

I think the main group in society that refuses to advocate for male mental health is men themselves. If you listen carefully, it’s usually the men telling other men to “suck it up“, mocking therapy and feminizing basic human emotional needs. Subconscious and deep rooted homophobia is one of the main factors that keeps them from providing emotional support to one another and it’s usually their fathers, grandfathers, sports coaches and even their fellow male classmates who have raised them with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:53 PM
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I think the problem, one of many problems, is that all of these things actually end up costing quite a bit of money. Most people (young men, especially) can’t afford to go to shows, street fairs and bars every weekend. It’s just not practical. We really don’t have any “3rd places” anymore, where it’s acceptable to just go hang out by yourself and socialize within your community. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I can understand how it’s very challenging for a lot of people. Would I give up? N…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:13 PM
4

It should absolutely be legalized. Tax it and regulate it. Just like everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:01 PM
2

I didn’t say it was
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:30 PM
6

The conservative/red pill men you are talking about actually don’t have respect for their female family members either. Definitely not their sisters, mothers and daughters. They might feel protective over them and feel the need to pay for their basic needs, but that’s because they view them as a form of property… Not because they respect them. All you need to do is spend one Thanksgiving dinner with a traditional conservative family to see this very clearly. And I’ve spent several unfortunately.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:50 AM

What’s the site?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:16 AM
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This. I don’t care if they don’t drink, I just don’t wanna hear about it every time we go out. It’s exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:52 PM
2

Yeah, I completely agree with you. I’m not referencing what I think, I’m referencing what I’m hearing others say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:30 PM
4

I’ve heard alot of men argue otherwise on here. They argue that women are nurturers and men are providers and that there’s nothing they can do about it because it’s just the way it is. Maybe it’s dependent on their specific age because so much has changed in the last 20 years alone… Or maybe they’re just full of shit (which is what I’ve always suspected).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:54 PM
5

I think it should absolutely influence people‘s decisions in dating if they are looking for that traditional life. Why date someone you are not going to be compatible with? For example, I work and do not want children so there’s no way I’m going to bother dating a man who wants the kind of woman who will be happy staying at home all day taking care of kids. On the flipside, a man who is not capable or willing to provide financially for a woman should not bother dating one who is not looking for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:25 PM
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I think children used to be far more willing and able to do this for themselves because they didn’t have a whole lot else to do… Now, they can just mindlessly kill all their time scrolling on the internet, watching porn and playing video games. Then they look up and they are 30 years old and have no idea how to actually live life. It’s really sad and with AI now taking over I expect it to get much much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:42 PM
7

Where’s the cool uncles and fathers? Honestly, a lot of them were too busy busting their asses trying to pay the bills to be able to actually raise their children (or they just flat out abandoned them). It’s not a good excuse to be a shitty parent, but it’s just the truth. All you have to do is look at the overall increase in cost of living, inflation, and the lack of pay increase. I don’t know why people even have children anymore. It’s not fair to the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:39 PM
7

I don’t think that’s true. I think you mean women who are looking for casual relationships over long term. Those are the women who are more interested in things like appearance over personality… because who really cares about someone’s personality if you don’t have to actually spend a lot of time with them outside the bedroom. Most women looking for a longterm but equal relationship where both partners work are not shallow elitists, they just don’t want to have to rely on a man financially for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:22 AM
2

Yes, it is possible for both partners to work and share household responsibilities… But it’s still far more common than not for the woman to end up doing the vast majority of the household work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:57 AM
2

Fair enough, what I meant was that I don’t believe that it is possible to do this and still live a happy healthy life. Those women burn out, they resent their husbands, they have no sex lives and their mental health is garbage. The fact of the matter is that when men don’t pull their own weight around the house but still expect their wives to work full-time, the women and children are the ones who suffer. I’m not sure why you would advocate for anyone choosing to live that way. Most women these …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:29 AM
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I already said the men do about 10 to 20%. Try reading next time… some of y’all are so busy trying to come up with ways to argue with strangers on the internet that you don’t even bother to attempt to read and comprehend. Just go straight to regurgitating your same tired talking points. And I never said it’s impossible to do both, but it’s very difficult and it’s a miserable, thankless life. Who in their right mind actually wants to sign up for that? No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:34 AM
9

No, the vast majority people don’t do this, the vast majority of WOMEN do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:24 AM
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I think you’re glossing over a major factor here in that the majority of women who say they want a “provider“ say that because what they want to do is stay at home, cook, clean, and raise children. That’s not possible when you have to work a full-time job to contribute to 50% of the bills. So no, these women really aren’t much competition amongst each other because they aren’t interested in the same men. That’s why it’s so crazy when people say that men want this or women want that… Because all …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:04 AM
0

If you’ve had enough basic life experience to observe just a few individual women with and without makeup, then you can typically just subtract it in your mind, yes. If you are young and have not had that opportunity or didn’t go to school/grow up with 50% women, then maybe not. But I think it’s safe to say that most grown men understand that what they see on Instagram and only fans is not what you typically get in real life… and can make similar assumptions when it comes to dating apps. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:40 PM
2

The first paragraph of your response, kind of just proved my point. And just a random note, you might notice in some of my other comments that I am adamantly against the people trying to convince men to start wearing make up. That’s a terrible idea.If anything, women need to wear less make up. But in my opinion, if men are stupid enough or horny enough to be fooled into thinking that a woman is beautiful just because she’s wearing a bunch of make up, then they kind of deserve it. There’s plenty …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:01 AM
1

I’m not advocating for those big stupid baggy jeans either. Just normal jeans is all that is necessary. But when people reference skinny jeans, this is what they are talking about. Google “skinny jeans men“ and I dare you to find one good looking picture… And if you do, they’re probably not actually skinny jeans. They’re just regular straight leg jeans. Kit Harrington is my man and a photo of him just came up wearing them and I almost threw my Game of Thrones box set out the window
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:50 AM
2

No, you’re not understanding me. It just sounds like you guys are trying to say that men are too stupid to be able to tell when women have changed their appearance using makeup. Like they’re somehow being tricked. I find that insulting to all men. I think they are very much aware when women are doing this. I just don’t think they care. There’s a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:47 AM
1

So are you saying that when grown men are swiping on dating apps and they see a woman with a ton of make up or filters, they don’t have the common sense to know that she doesn’t actually look like that? Like, they haven’t figured it out yet? I don’t understand why so many men insist on infantilizing each other and talking about yourselves as though you’re stupid all the time. It’s incredibly obvious when a woman is wearing enough makeup to completely change her appearance. Most men know that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:40 AM
2

So are you saying that when grown men are swiping on dating apps and they see a woman with a ton of make up on, they don’t have the common sense to know that she doesn’t actually look like that? Like, they haven’t figured it out yet? I don’t understand why so many men insist on infantilizing each other and talking about yourselves as though you’re stupid all the time. It’s incredibly obvious when a woman is wearing enough makeup to completely change her appearance. Most men know that women don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:32 AM
3

This man is in excellent shape. I would have no problem looking at him naked. But those pants repel me like nothing else in the world could. They’re just stupid. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:26 AM
1

No, I’m talking about all men. Period. It’s just not a flattering look for the male form. I said 99.99%, because I never say 100% on anything, just incase. They don’t even look good on most women. But it’s especially egregious on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:23 AM
3

Skinny jeans look terrible on 99.99% of men (and 80% of women). Doesn’t matter how nice their ass is. I’m talking about what it does to their overall shape. It makes their ankles look weak and frail and their thighs look disproportionately big. Like little chicken legs that just balloon up in an extremely unflattering way. They look like they’re going to just snap at the ankles and fall over in a light breeze. It makes them look shorter than they are. Not to mention the way it sags around their …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:14 AM
3

Makeup doesn’t skew the dating market. People’s behavior on dating apps do. Men swipe right on practically every profile, usually without even bothering to read the bio, so women feel like they have more “options” than they really do. Meanwhile, women swipe right on very few profiles because the vast majority of them show no effort at all… the photos are typically terrible and I don’t mean that the men are unattractive, I just mean that you literally can’t even tell what they look like. And most…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:05 AM
1

Please please please don’t encourage straight men to start wearing makeup. We’re finally just now starting to move past those ridiculous skinny jeans. I can’t handle eyeliner too. Please just let them be men. Don’t get me wrong, if a man chooses to wear make up because he wants to, that’s fine. I don’t care. Everyone should do what they want… But don’t make them feel like it’s in any way necessary or that it makes them look hotter, because it absolutely isn’t and it absolutely doesn’t. Between Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:53 AM
1

I’m also talking about dating. I didn’t say women weren’t able to go in public because of it, but it makes dating incredibly difficult. Both genders have challenges when it comes to dating, is my point. And no, the vast majority of men are not just “stuck with nothing”. Are some people undateable? Yes of course. But that applies to both genders as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:51 AM
2

I can understand how you might feel that way if you never get laid, but I promise that if the tables were turned, and you had lived your entire adult life feeling like men viewed you as nothing more than a collection of holes for their own pleasure, you’d probably feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:33 PM
1

I knew one of you guys was going to say this 🤣 So, ok, yeah… but the difference here is that I’m not gonna die if I don’t date one of these men. Most women feel the same way, so we just pass. It’s not that we have more options than men, it’s that we are willing to just be alone versus drinking the poison. I’m not saying all men are poison of course. They’re often just not good partners in life and sometimes, it’s just easier to live without them than with them. It’s a stupid analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:27 PM
1

Don’t know where you’re getting your information, but the only reason a single man needs to live as an outcast is if he chooses to. And there are plenty of single women out there… men just don’t want to put in the effort or risk the rejection that comes along with actually trying. You can’t just sit on your couch swiping on random women all day and just expect one to fall into your lap. No, it’s not easy, but nothing worth having ever is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:08 PM
5

Well, from a woman’s perspective, most of us aren’t willing to date someone who will not be a good partner. So a lot of women have literally zero options as well. It’s like telling someone who is dying from dehydration that they should be grateful for a glass of water filled with rat poison or dog shit. “At least you have an option.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:07 PM
5

Nothing. My comment wasn’t about them. It was about the other men. The only thing you can “do about it” is keep trying and don’t waste your time with people who are looking for something else… just like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:03 PM
1

I don’t believe this is necessarily true. I understand how many people might perceive this to be the case, but I don’t think it’s reality. This is just a misconception based on data from dating apps because a lot of women have just decided to stop using them altogether or when they do use them, they don’t take them very seriously based on their experience of the way men behave on them. Women have pretty much the same “opportunities” as men do, they are just usually more selective because they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:36 PM
5

If men didn’t so often mislead and sleep with women they have no intention of being in a relationship with, then more women would be willing to give more men a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:12 PM
5

I think it’s much easier for these women to get men to sleep with them… but that doesn’t mean the men will commit to a relationship with them. Dating isn’t easy for the average woman either… just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:39 PM
1

Yes, I think we are in agreement that if men didn’t “validate” certain types of behavior, then women wouldn’t engage in it in the first place. But I still think the vast majority of men don’t validate that behavior and the vast majority of women don’t engage in it in the first place. It’s just that the ones who do are the loudest online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:47 PM
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I think part of the problem here is that you are referring to “online culture“, not real life (although I acknowledge that the two often merge, they are still not the same thing). The vast vast majority of women (or girls) engaging in that behavior online are either immature teenagers or they aren’t actually doing it to feel “validated“… they truly don’t care what men think. They are seeking the clicks and likes because they want to make money. Everybody wants to be a well paid influencer now an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:22 PM

I haven’t seen the show yet and honestly, I don’t want a lot of spoilers here, because I plan to watch it soon… But aren’t the characters in this show supposed to be children? Aren’t children just notoriously mean to each other… Girls, boys, they’re just mean to each other regardless of gender and always have been? Again, I have not seen the show yet so I don’t know, but if that’s the case, then it seems really dangerous to justify boys getting on the Internet when they feel bullied or rejected,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:51 AM
2

Seriously. What a ridiculous question. These dudes inability to think for themselves is wild. (But it’s definitely not just the men)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:31 PM
0

Will there be “issues” if the population declines? Absolutely. But those issues are nothing compared to the issues we’re going to face if we continue mindlessly increasing the population with no plan to support/care for one another and no effort to try and preserve the planet we all need to live on. Constant growth, constant profit… always more more more. Me me me. That psychotic mindset will be our species downfall. I think if we don’t naturally reduce the human population by decreasing reprodu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:28 PM
0

Sorry, it’s just true. I would never advocate for the intentional reduction of the human population, but if it begins to happen organically through a reduction in reproduction, then I’m not going to pretend like that’s a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:19 AM
1

yes it is, but it appears that a alot of people are preferring roommate situations over romantic partnerships. I can’t tell you how many women I know who are avoiding getting back into serious relationships/live in partnerships because they’ve done it before and found themselves working full-time, paying half the bills and still being expected to cook for, clean up after and just generally take care of their male partner. Obviously that’s not all relationships, but it’s incredibly common and it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:30 AM
-1

Yeah, I know the real world can be scary. But you are supposed to do it anyways. Being good at anything in life takes practice. That includes living life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:55 PM
3

You’d think so, but it appears to just be pushing people more towards roommate like situations. I can’t tell you how many women I know who are avoiding getting back into serious relationships/live in partnerships because they’ve done it before and found themselves working full-time, paying half the bills and still being expected to cook for, clean up after and just generally take care of their make partner. Obviously that’s not all relationships, but it’s incredibly common and it’s caused a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:11 PM
-3

I actually am sympathetic to men’s issues. It’s why I’m in this group and why I’m listed as purple pill instead of pink or blue. But I do not believe that young men’s inability to get laid or maintain romantic relationships in their 20s is the tragedy some of you try to make it out to be. I also don’t think the “phenomenon” is as new as some of you seem to think it is. It’s always been challenging for men to “secure“ a woman. It’s always required effort and a willingness to face rejection. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:00 PM
11

Nope. Didn’t say that. I just don’t think that men in their twenties being single is the global catastrophe some of you seem to think it is. Y’all’s unhinged and self-destructive responses to it might be, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:14 PM
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Hey dude, guess what? Even if you get married and live happily ever after, there’s a 50-50 chance you’re still going to die alone. Unless you both die at the same time, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:41 PM
-3

I believe it is one of the lowest priority problems we have right now as a human race. 60% of men in their twenties not being able to get a girlfriend is unfortunate, but I think in the grand scheme of things it’s probably happening for a reason. Maybe we could use a few less people on this planet. Maybe it’s just natural selection thinning the heard a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:27 PM
4

The primary “mainstream” advice I hear for these men is to get off the apps, get out from behind the video games and start spending more time in the real world. OP doesn’t even acknowledge that because most red pillers refuse to work up the motivation and courage to do that. They’ve become convinced that they should be able to just sit at home on their toilet scrolling through an online catalog of women and just pick whichever ones they want to be delivered for the mere price of a cup of coffee.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:23 PM
6

Considering all the distractions of modern day life, the extremely high cost of living paired with stagnant wages, and the fact that we recently went through a once in a lifetime pandemic… No, that number is not surprising at all for that age range. Nor is it alarming. I’m actually surprised it’s not higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:10 PM

So you actually believe that’s the way women think? …that’s the way they feel? Something tells me you don’t really know a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:43 AM
3

It seems to me like the playing field has just been leveled. Men used to have all of the leverage. Now that it’s an equal playing field you are saying that women have “too much leverage“. But in reality, they just have choices now. Kind of sucks that you think that’s a problem. Like you prefer the days when women literally didn’t have any options other than to hope she was pretty and young enough for a rich man to want to marry? And no, most women don’t want the life of the party guy. You’re thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:32 AM
2

I don’t really get this. Women have “too much leverage” now?… The only difference I see now is that women no longer need men to survive. So if a man doesn’t make them happy, then they can just choose to be alone. A lot of men are becoming increasingly upset because they are realizing that there are so many women out there who would legitimately rather be alone than be with them. This may not be the fault of any specific individual man, but it’s the way many women feel based on how they have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:42 AM

So true 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:47 AM

Y’all need to stop acting like love is something that’s calculated on a spreadsheet. Do people have checklists and standards when it comes to choosing partners? Absolutely… But that’s just to get your foot in the door. What it all boils down to is chemistry and just “getting“ each other. Without that, you have nothing. Typically, the type of person (male or female), that tries to assess another person‘s “value“ (or their own) based on a lot of the factors being discussed here are not the kind of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:41 AM
2

You’re not really making a lot of sense here. I’m aware that I’m free to ignore people on the Internet thank you. I’m also free to comment whenever I want to as well… It’s kind of a whole point of this entire platform, ya know? The bottom line is that nobody owes you a relationship, love, attention, or anything else in this world. Anything worth having requires some level of effort. That applies to everybody. I understand you think that it’s men’s prerogative to sit around and rot and encourage …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:52 AM

I don’t believe that the vast majority of women want men to silently accept “misandry“… I think they just want you to acknowledge the historic and in some cases continuing problems that the patriarchy has created for women. If a man respects women and doesn’t treat them as a lower life form, then he has no reason to be offended by what a lot of these women are saying… He would realize that they aren’t talking about him specifically as he’s not a participant and he would agree with what they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:44 AM
2

I legit can’t follow what you’re saying… But I can assure you that I don’t feel entitled to anyone trying their best. That doesn’t even make sense. I don’t know what you’re talking about when you reference engaging with someone’s thoughts online, but I can tell you that most women these days aren’t “banking” on anything when it comes to men. Women are the ones who have decided it’s no longer worth it to try and be in relationships with most men.Not the other way around. My point was that I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:31 AM
-1

I think that’s misguided. I think it’s lazy. Even Brad Pitt has to put effort into his appearance and his personality. Everybody has to put in effort… Some more than others of course, but that’s just life. If someone can’t understand that or refuses to try because they think others don’t have to try as hard, then they desperately need to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:29 AM
0

I think it’s perfectly reasonable for human beings to crave partnership, love and affection. Loneliness is a hell of a drug. It ducks with your head after awhile. What’s not reasonable is to feel entitled to partnership without putting in any effort. A lot of young men today have a lot to learn when it comes to putting in effort and learning to bounce back from rejection. They are giving up before they’ve even really tried, because in their defense, the world does seem a bit hopeless right now… …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:58 AM
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Sir, please get off the internet and go outside. You’re wildly misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:18 AM
7

I don’t necessarily think that red pill “makes” men insecure… the men who fall for this way of thinking are already incredibly insecure. Red pill influencers/grifters take already broken men and trap them in the same vicious cycle of thinking, which only makes things worse… but men who are confident and secure do not fall down the red pill rabbit hole in the first place. This is why I think it is a cop out when people blame social media alone for this problem. Social media definitely makes the p…
/r/ExRedPill28/03/25 06:22 PM
3

You seriously can’t understand why a human being would want another human being as their partner without also desiring reproduction? Do you see women solely as breeders… they’re basically just incubators to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:04 AM
6

Number one, do not get pregnant with this man! Number two, it is very unlikely that anything you say or do will change his mind because to red pill dudes, women are the “enemy“. They will blame all of society’s problems and their own on women. You are a woman so anything you say on the subject is invalid to him. I think you need to take a long hard look at your relationship and acknowledge the very real possibility that if he is mentally capable of falling down this rabbit hole, then he was prob…
/r/ExRedPill25/03/25 04:36 AM
2

I do not need an emotional connection to have sex. But it never really lasts long without one, because most men who don’t care about a woman are rarely capable of or willing to actually try to please her… they become selfish lovers very quickly and then it’s over. Even good fwb’s are hard to find these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:10 PM

Yeah, these dudes are wild. They want capitalism in the streets, but socialism in the sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:17 PM
6

I think this poor guy is confusing the concepts of value and desire. A lot of men consider younger women to be more desirable… This does not mean they view them as valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:06 PM
0

Literally what are you talking about? I never said that I think all women are angels. I think quite the opposite. But what you are saying is bullshit. I don’t know what communities you are trying to pick up chicks in, but maybe try getting out into the real world and speaking with some real woman before you try to label 99% of an entire gender to fit your narrow life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:38 AM
3

What? 99% of women don’t say shit like that. You’re just making up nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:11 AM
5

I’m 42f. My range is about 39-55. I’ve paid for discounted trials to premium a few times so I could see my likes before and was shocked how many of them were in their early twenties… explained why there were so many likes I couldn’t see naturally in my feed. I have never and would never lie about my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:57 AM
2

Yeah. A lot of them don’t get that. Most average men are NOT desirable. They’re generally unattractive, emotionally immature, selfish/lazy lovers and they don’t make enough money to support the family they claim to want to have. They expect a woman to shack up with them regardless, work full-time, and spend the rest of their waking hours cooking, cleaning and taking care of him and his children while he is expected to work a basic job, come home and relax for the rest of the time. Meanwhile, mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:33 PM
-1

Yeah, you’e right. Women now have the ability to take care of themselves. We are no longer helpless, so we’re useless to you now because we can’t be controlled. Sucks to be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:19 PM
-1

Yeah, totally. Now, imagine for a few moments how it must feel to be a woman right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:13 PM
-3

Seriously, dude? A lot of what you’re saying has nothing to do with modern dating. It was always men who had to put in the work in the beginning... but expectations used to be a lot higher. You used to have to actually meet a woman in real life (from a much smaller pool), find a way to make her interested in you, then dress up nice, buy flowers, go to her house and meet her father before you could even take her out. Then, in order for her to take you seriously, you had to demonstrate that you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:14 PM
2

Possible, but unlikely unless they really really want to.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/25 01:34 PM
1

I'm talking about the difference between sleeping with a guy on a first or second date vs. deciding to wait a few simple weeks. Not dragging that shit out forever. I'm usually not going to wait too long either way, because most of y'all are trash in bed and I'd rather figure that out sooner than later... just like to give the ones with potential a better chance. If that's a problem for you, then get bent. Sex is neither a punishment nor a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:20 AM
1

What? I don’t think you were understanding my comment. I didn’t say anything about friend zoning. I was talking about the fact that if I see a real potential with someone, I might decide to wait just a little bit longer to sleep with them because in that case, I actually care if I see them again and I want the sex to be great, not just mediocre. It’s a compliment if I’m being intentional when dating you. The complete opposite of a friend zoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:55 PM
6

It’s just gender war grifters posting this content for clicks and likes. They get a lot of responses to this content because there are a lot of people out there who have been hurt by the opposite sex. It’s just like the red pill guys online, but this is the women’s version. Most average people don’t actually feel this way and most happy people don’t spend a lot of time creating or engaging with this type of content, so they end up creating their own echo chambers, feeding off of each other and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:28 PM
1

You mean the same way a lot of women learned that “being good“ got them nowhere but left alone, with no career, living in poverty and raising children alone? No more Mrs. Nice Girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:25 AM
0

Something tells me you need a history lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:32 PM
-4

Because you are a man. Maybe if society had more respect for men, your life would be better. Why are you here making this comment now? How does it affect you in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:22 PM
-3

That’s a man making that post. Not a woman. And he’s not saying that you need to “police“ to them. Just acknowledge their bullshit when you see it, just like you do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:20 PM
1

Where did he suggest that you should pander to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:14 PM
4

I agree and the same thing goes for some women. When men try to call each other out, they are accused of “white-knighting“ and when women try to call other women out, they are accused of being “pick me’s”. It’s obnoxious and incredibly annoying. Both genders can be prone to toxic behavior and when all the good ones remain silent, it starts to feel like that’s all there is out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:12 PM
6

This is an interesting take. I can’t really disagree. Don’t forget about some men who claim that women “need“ to have a man in their life for protection (provide & protect). Then you ask them, protection from what? …other men, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:00 PM
7

In all honesty, for me, the majority of the time if I sleep with a man really quickly, it’s because I don’t really see much of a future there. I might find him attractive and fun, but there’s something there that doesn’t seem like we would be a good fit for the long-term (usually lifestyle differences, like they have kids, aren’t looking for a relationship, are too young, polyamorous, etc.). In which case, I’m not really interested in investing a lot of time there, other than to have a little fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:55 AM
5

Most women don’t hate to be complimented on their looks, they just get annoyed if somebody only compliments them on their looks. If it’s somebody we are dating or know in real life and all they ever seem interested in is how we look, that can become a little bit insulting for obvious reasons. If a stranger is randomly complimenting us on the street, it very much depends on the tone and context in which that compliment is being given. Women ultimately just want to be treated like human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:01 AM
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What’s worse is that a lot of these boys will try these kind of “tactics” on women and when we see right through it and reject it, they hop online and blame us, complaining about how women are delusional and don’t want them because (insert insecurity here) …he’s either too short, doesn’t make enough money, he showed too much emotion, she only wanted a free dinner, he was “too nice” to her or he just isn’t “Chad”. Then they will say that women just have too many “options” and we need to lower our…
/r/ExRedPill05/03/25 02:12 AM
2

I’d be super proud and grateful that he made it back home. Any woman who feels threatened or jealous by this needs therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:24 PM
1

What? Dude, please… Touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 11:56 PM
3

The initial premise of the post was that women have been conditioned… And now you guys are trying to claim the women are pulling the strings. Which one is it? Women conditioned themselves? With no input from the opposite gender? I mean that’s kind of a funny take, but whatever floats your boat dude. Also, I think I’ve acknowledged several times now that all people suck… both men and women. Why can’t y’all just admit that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:18 AM
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People like you act like men are the sole victims of their own lives. You could take your entire post and just flip the script, change a few words and make it the exact opposite. You could say that men only pretend to love a woman because she provides sex, domestic chores, and whatever else it is he desires at the time. He doesn’t actually love her, he just enjoys what she provides. I’m just trying to get you to understand that one gender doesn’t suck more than the other… People in general suck.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:23 AM
6

Do you not understand that now that women are providing 50% financially (and in some cases more), a lot of men still expect them to cook and clean for them? There are members of both genders who are delusional and are choosing to accept the benefits of this new culture while refusing to accept the shifts in responsibility. Yes, it’s sad that some women have been conditioned to only be interested in men’s money… But it’s also sad that some men have been conditioned to think that even if they’re n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:08 AM
6

OK dude, if you wanna blame everyone’s moms for society’s problems, go ahead. But while you sit there saying that many of today’s women still want to be provided for financially, you should at least acknowledge that many of today’s men still want to be waited on hand and foot… Cooked for, cleaned after, etc. They now expect their women to bring home half the income AND still feed them when they’re hungry, fuck them when they’re horny, clean up all their messes and not ask any questions. And when…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:21 AM
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First of all, you don’t know me at all, and you have no idea what I’ve been “programmed“ to think. Second of all, I happen to think that everybody is a victim when it comes to this stuff. Men were programmed to think that they shouldn’t have to cook, clean, do dishes, laundry, or any other household tasks... Hell, they weren’t even expected to satisfy their wives sexually if they didn’t want to. It was her duty. Even today, they still often refer to taking care of their own children as “babysitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:49 AM
4

Men. You mean men. Who do you think conditioned their mothers to condition them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:45 AM
7

I agree that it is sad. But I also believe that the majority of women, at least in America, do not view it this way anymore. Curious to know, though… You say that women have been conditioned this way… Who do you think it is that conditioned them to be this way in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:17 AM
6

These days it’s usually shared custody or the dad at least has them on the weekends and wants a live-in girlfriend to take care of the kids, cook and clean when they are there. Which might be fine if she weren’t also expected to contribute 50% of the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:07 PM
4

Don’t worry, for every one of these women, there’s also a single dad expecting a child-free woman to jump at the opportunity to date him and become his free babysitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:11 PM
4

I think women’s general mentality is going to depend on a lot of factors. For older women above the age of 30 who are not concerned with having children, a lot of us have had relationships in the past and didn’t really get much out of them. In a lot of cases, men ended up taking way more than they gave in significant ways, which leaves a lot of women deciding that it’s easier to just be single. I feel like a lot of younger women have observed this and are choosing not to make some of the same mi…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/25 06:05 PM
2

I’m not sure, but if you figure it out, let me know! All I know to tell you is that you are not alone with that problem. I think a lot of people suffer from it to varying degrees. It’s just part of the human condition. Most people want what they think they can’t have… And then when they actually get it, they find they still aren’t happy and they want more. It sounds cheesy and probably naïve, but when I’m feeling a bit down, I try to focus on being grateful for what I do have instead of bitter f…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/25 01:39 AM
2

Yeah, you might just have to find other ways to enjoy life than through a woman. Or maybe your attitude will naturally shift as you age.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 11:58 PM
1

There’s plenty of obese women who would be attracted to you. I’m just a bit on the smaller side when it comes to my body structure, so if a man is too big, we physically just don’t work. Overweight is fine (I’m a little bit overweight), but obese is a problem for me… not only because of the size difference between us, but lifestyle differences as well. The good news is that this is a trait that you can work on and change if you decide to.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 11:27 PM
1

First of all, everyone is attracted differently. We obviously have a baseline standard when it comes to attractiveness as a culture, but there’s still a lot of variation. I have dated incredibly attractive men before as well as men who were well below average. When it comes to the below average men, there was always something I found attractive about them… For example, maybe they were a little bit overweight, but as long as they weren’t incredibly obese, there was something about their eyes or t…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 11:08 PM
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That’s why I have so much pity for the young ones. They just don’t know any better yet and falling into this mentality will literally destroy their lives. I don’t feel as bad for the older ones because they should know better by now. I think a lot of of them are just looking to blame others for their own mistakes. But these poor young guys are being brainwashed before they even have a chance to try.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 10:09 AM
7

I feel the same way towards them. A strange combination of sadness and anger. Like I kind of want to strangle them, but also hug them and cry.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 10:06 AM
0

It’s really simple to avoid this problem. If you’re romantically interested in someone and they tell you that they only want to be friends, you say “Thank you, but my interest in you goes beyond friendship, so I feel like it would be disingenuous to pretend otherwise.” Then you move on. A lot of people offer friendship not to manipulate, but in order to not hurt someone’s feelings. I would say that’s the case in most situations and it doesn’t mean you’re a victim. And if you find yourself unable…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:29 AM
2

I’m not getting defensive, maybe you meant offensive? Either way, conversations involve context. You are taking that comment out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:32 AM
2

This is a conversation about men who do not appreciate the way their partner dresses or posts sexualized photos online. You think that if a woman does this, she’s doing it just for you? This woman that you don’t even know is behaving wildly out of character just to get your attention? …only your attention? That doesn’t make a lot of sense. Not sure why you would think that. That might be something you should work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:57 AM
5

Your assessment is inaccurate. If you want to say that most human beings enjoy positive attention from other human beings, then I would be able to agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 09:50 PM
22

Seriously. I’m starting to wonder if these guys aren’t even actually dating women like this, but they spend so much time simping over these girls online, they assume that all women behave this way. I don’t know, but it’s fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:45 PM
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