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So what? It's the same where I live. Believe it or not, but there aren't many grown ups having sex with 14 year olds despite it being half legal. And that's the point, it's a grey zone and not really legal. You can still get in trouble for it, but you will not be called a rapist or something like that.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 09:31 AM
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Haha, you must have little experience with women. Especially in that age they prefer older guys. If the other guy is not a 10.0, it should be at least +2 years. The usual 15 year old will prefer a 25 year old over a guy her own age anytime. I'm not saying that it can't be problematic, just that it's not because they wouldn't enjoy it.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 09:28 AM
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Why should I care what others say? You don't really get what MGTOW is about, do you? Going your own way means not just following some group. The only thing all men on here really have in common is, they don't want to be beta providers and that's it. Other than that, a MGTOW can be anyone. So, if you don't have some criticism for me personally, I suggest you take your straw man arguments elsewhere.
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 08:38 PM
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Exactly, it should be the same for both sexes. Even girls that age often really enjoy sex with older men. Why not let them? Even if I wouldn't fuck a 15 year old girl, I really don't see why anyone should be put to jail for it.
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 04:19 PM
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That's because statutory rape is just plain bullshit, no matter who commits it. I really don't know why you guys even call it rape, that's really confusing. Should it be illegal? Maybe. Should it be something you make a huge fuzz about? Definitely no.
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 04:17 PM
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Well, different women THINK they want different things. But in the end, deep down, almost all of them want an alpha, even if they don't fully realize it. But only 5-20% of men are like that (depending on how strictly you set the requirements), so of course they will eventually start going for other men. They might even think they are happy in such a relationship. But deep down, they still have that longing that her partner just can't fulfill. Some women can cope with that frustration better than…
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 04:14 PM
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The one is the biological need for the alpha. The other is simply a career path for women in modern society. It works and is much easier than the usual 9-5 job, so they do it.
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 04:09 PM
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There are feminists that believe that any kind of penetration is a form of rape, no matter what happens first.
/r/MGTOW19/05/19 10:04 AM
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I was doing that on purpose of course to prove my point. There is no hard line in this matter, only a very, very blurry one. Since we all seem to agree that there is no definitive answer to my question, I think the best approach would be a logical one. Emotions usually don't give the best advice anyway. So, what do you think is worse for a child? Being killed before it even formed its first thought or being born and then neglected or even hated by its parents for the rest of its life?
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 04:05 PM
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Yeah but where do you draw the line? Is plan B murder then? When does it start?
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 03:01 PM
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So the 50 Million abortions were all trimester babys?
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 02:51 PM
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At least now you know, better late than never. That's one of our biggest advantages over women, we learn from our mistakes and adapt. They never learnt how to do that, because they usually just get a man to solve their problems. The day they lose their last beta provider, will be the end of them and they will come crawling back.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 02:25 PM
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And you can't really blame them for wanting more. I just blame them for refusing to go through the molding process that makes a man a man but still wanting all the privileges that come with it. They can be our equals anytime, they just have to do what every man is already doing and that's it. No additional laws needed. Not gonna happen any time soon though.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 02:18 PM
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That would actually make much more sense.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 12:39 PM
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32? Most of them basically stay children all their life. If you never have to stand on your own two feet with no support from anyone, you don't really grow up completely. Most women never have to deal with the real world, because everyone goes easy on them. So they stay children that throw a tantrum every time they don't get their way.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 12:38 PM
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Empty phrases, nothing more. Manslation: she very simply thinks he is out of her league and she can do better. But at least she breaks up with him right away, instead of staying and cheating. I guess that's the maximum level of honesty you will get from women.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 12:33 PM
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Not really compareable, since these were not fully developed humans. Or would you say that masturbating is murder too? Think about it, all the children that never got the chance to live because of you.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 12:20 PM
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Only mistake you made was swearing back at her. You were lucky this time but she can easily turn that against you. Just don't play crazy women's games. Tell her to piss off and then ignore her hard. Women crave for attention and even negative attention is still better than none at all. Not even aknowledging their existence is how you really get them. The best thing about it is that there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 11:48 AM
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Don't worry too much, many people try for years and don't get pregnant. It's not like you cum in her once and that's it. You can't do anything now anyway but seriously, the risk that something happened is really low. Just let it be a lesson for you, never trust a woman desperate to win you over. They will do crazy stuff to lock you in, this was nothing, believe me. If you want to make absolutely sure this won't happen again, get snipped.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 11:03 AM
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Money knows no gender, no skin colour, no religion.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 10:55 AM
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Better being killed early on than having such a mother, don't you think? Why prolong their suffering?
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 10:53 AM
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How else are you gonna make sure there is a constant fresh supply of happy beta providers?
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 10:38 AM
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It's even worse if you're a blue pill guy. You will believe that's the way to a woman's heart and walk right into the trap. When you realize you have been tricked, you can't get out anymore, you will be a slave for life.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 10:35 AM
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Yep, that's the main problem with feminism, it is not about equal rights, it's about gaining an advantage. Since many people are self centered liars, they will say anything, if the know it will help them achieve their goals. Honor is dead, it has been for a long time. No wonder women make full use of a system that gives them an advantage over 50% of the population. Most of them propably seriously don't know what's wrong with that. What a career is to a man, a marriage is to a woman. Problem is, …
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 10:14 AM
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Honestly, if I believed that I could help someone back on his feet permanently by giving him a bit of money, I would. But my experience has shown me that most of them will be back on the street within no time. Sad but true.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 10:07 AM
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I don't get why this isn't the standard worldwide. If abortion is an option, it's the woman's choice only, wether she will keep the child or not. May make the man pay 50% of the costs but that's it. If she alone decides to keep it, it's only logical that she will also take care of it alone. The only reason not to do this is because the government wants more children and needs men to pay for them.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 09:01 AM
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You're right, it's just a damn shame you had to learn the hard way. I think more men need to be told about the methods women use to manipulate us. It should be a subject in school, like math. If someone had told me all this stuff when I was a teenager, my life would have been much easier. I'm just glad I managed to escape the prison anyway. I guess I got lucky, even if it didn't feel like that back then.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 08:54 AM
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That's fine. Just remember that there are a lot of women out there, who are exceptionally skilled in the art of deception. They will make you believe 100% that they are the perfect partner, until they have all the power. I think the secret is to connect on a deeper level. If that doesn't work with her, she's not the right one. Also watch out for the typical red flags, irrational behavior, shit testing, stuff like that. Watch out for cracks in her mask and if you spot some, don't just dismiss the…
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 08:43 AM
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Nah, she just thinks long term. Maybe she's also not too pretty and will have some difficulties finding a better replacement. You know, like a broken car, you think about how much effort and costs repairs are gonna take and then you decide if buying a new one is the better alternative.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:55 AM
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And why? Because men like this one allow it. It works, so why would they even think about changing anything?
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:53 AM
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Why would anyone want to stay with such a woman? Seriously, I would dump that bitch on the spot. She is rotten to the core and no level of optical attractiveness can compensate for that.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:52 AM
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Sorry to break it to you, but the relationship actually was already over before that, she just didn't tell you.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:49 AM
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That's because you make the mistake of paying for the date. Let them pay their own tap, they are grown ups, they earn money, they can take care of themselves. A woman that actively demands that I pay for her stuff is automatically uninteresting for me.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:29 AM
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Well, actually I'm pro abortion. Since I still have sex with women, I see it as a way out, if an "oops" happens. It's just not fair that she decides this alone and the father is forced to pay if she keeps it. But abortion itself I think is absolutely fine.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:25 AM
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A smart MGTOW takes the free BJ and then gets the hell outta there.
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:22 AM
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In your 30s you definitely become more interesting for them, I'm currently experiencing this myself, it was never so easy before. When I was 20 I usually took everything I could get, now I have rather high standards. I find myself turning down girls I would have gladly fucked back then. However, I also know that the hotter ones are only looking male approval to push their ego. As soon as you give them that, you become interesting. That's why they seem to become so desperate if you don't look at …
/r/MGTOW17/05/19 07:15 AM
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Indeed and it's no wonder that feminists already start talking about sex-robot rights. It's ridiculous but they really mean it. They actually say that the robot would have to consent somehow or would basically be rape.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 08:02 PM
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I would upvote but it somehow feels wrong...
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 07:58 PM
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Of course they are, such movements always attract scumbags as well. It's hard to filter them out, since it's a completely open community. Concerning women, you really can't blame them, society raised them this way and it is also in their nature, just as it is in my nature to fuck with as many of them as possible. However, I learned discipline and self control early on, because I had to. Society doesn't put that kind of pressure on women. Just look at their reaction, if they fail at something. Th…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 06:28 PM
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It might but may also just change it. Think about how fast these developments occur nowadays thanks to the internet. We currently see changes happening in a few years that used to take generations. And it's still a long way to the extinction of western society. Also, I would rather see our society end, than becoming the slave of some stupid bitch that can't get anything done herself but acts like she is the best thing that ever happened to humanity.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 06:17 PM
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Haha, I always wanted to have sex with an elf. :D If I think about it, just imagine how much money men are willing to pay for sex. If that money would go directly to R&D and production of these robots, almost everything should be possible. That could easily become the biggest industry in the history of mankind.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 06:13 PM
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Problem is that most false accusations can never be cleared up. So the sentence should be so extreme, that no one does it. She is doing way more damage to society than even a rapist ever could and should be punished accordingly. At least when you finally have a clear case like that, it would make perfect sense. Maybe not execution but a lifetime of social work (1-2 days a week) would surely teach her and everyone else a lesson.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 05:39 PM
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Better even, a mental hospital for being a danger to people around her. Once you go in there, you usually don't get out so fast and it's much worse than your usual prison.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 05:35 PM
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Wow, the US really is a fucked up place. I hope the lawsuit works out for him and the university is forced to pay a huge compensation. Would go a long way in preventing such things from happening in the future.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 05:33 PM
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Ok, you asked, so I will give you a full answer to your question. First of all, I never really suffered in any of my relationships. I am not that easily manipulated, so most women bite out their teeth, trying to play their games with me. I also have the common sense to end a relationship that is not healthy for me. However, not all guys are like that. There are really soft, kind hearted men that become so desperate over time (hardly any woman wants them), that they will do anything for an attrac…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 03:48 PM
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That's just an empty phrase. Women are not logic beings, they don't argue for the sake of finding the truth or anything, it's simply about winning at any cost. When they lack facts supporting their claims, they resort to stuff like that. Next up would be namecalling / shaming, making you look like an idiot and distracting from the fact that she has no reasonable arguments. So don't interpret too much into that sentence, she propably didn't even think about if it is true or not. Women use these p…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 03:27 PM
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Yep, and have you seen the reactions of the other passengers? Exactly, they did nothing. Even going near an angry single mother is begging for problems and people know that. Society is sick, she should have been punched down on the spot and the child should have been taken away from her. That's how people would have reacted, had it been a white male.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:20 PM
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Unfortunately I think you're right, she propably won't even lose child custody.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:16 PM
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Well, someone has to warn all the oblivious guys that they are running right into a trap. Men are social, we won't simply stand by, while our brothers are slaughtered, even if many of them brought this on themselves.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:15 PM
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Once you marry and have kids, you have already given her everything she needs from you. At that point, she can simply divorce you, keep all her financial privileges and regain her freedom to fuck with anyone. Small wonder, so many women do that, it's a really good deal.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:12 PM
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Of course they do, they can't earn money themselves, so this is their career path. She doesn't even need to have sex with him too often, just the first few years to make him believe it can work and get children, so he can't leave as easily anymore. Then she can go back to fucking alphas while is working late to pay for her lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:04 PM
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This only works if you can fake being an alpha convincingly or have extremely good looks (top 5% of men). Just being an asshole is not enough and faking is not something, everyone is willing to do. I'd rather stay true to myself and single, than being dishonest all the time just to get what I want.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 01:00 PM
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Me are told from childhood on, that they will have to sustain themselves at some point, maybe even provide for a family as well. Women are told (maybe not directly, but society shows them), that they just have to marry the right guy if they don't want to work themselves. Even in dating they don't have to do anything but look nice and wait for a guy to come talk to them. So basically, a woman only needs 2 skills: Good looks --> hence all the makup, expensive clothes, jewelry etc. Ability to selec…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:57 PM
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Thats why I hold it very simple with them. Get what you want from them and if they demand more, tell them some lie why that's not possible for you at them moment. As long as you don't give her any means to control you, she only has emotional blackmail. That may be efficient if you're inexperienced but if you know that this is just a manipulation attempt, you can easily ignore it. This way you can get sex and some time with her, whenever you feel like it and just cut out all the toxic rest.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:49 PM
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Haha, willing beyond control, I would call her a sexist pig for saying that. Beat them with their own weapons. Logic is wasted on women, they are not logic beings.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:43 PM
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Just remember, a woman will say anything if it makes her win the argument. It's not about logic, it's not about truth, it's not even about finding a good compromise, it's just about winning, plain and simple. That's why men can't seem to win an argument against women, they are not really arguing, they are trying to manipulate. Logically sound arguments are only used, if it serves their purpose. Otherwise they simply revert to full emotional mode, make you look like a mean asshole and wait for th…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:41 PM
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Actually men don't even need that, your hand will serve that purpose just fine. A sex robot that can have any face with the help of VR however, that would really be something. Properly done, this could completely replace a woman and even excel her in some ways. Still a long way to go but this is the future.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:27 PM
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Red pilled myself as well a long time ago. I too thought that something was wrong with me at first. So many guys got a girlfriend and seemed to be happy at first sight. Now I realize that they just pretend to be happy and all the jokes about their women being the boss are actually not jokes, that's just gallows humor if you know what I mean. Keep going, you are heading in the right direction. Do what makes you happy and always remember, even if you do find the right girl one day, don't let her c…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 12:09 PM
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It's usually because of pride. Men feel ashamed that they were not capable to satisfy their partner, so she "had" to cheat. It's how society trained us, if he cheats, it's his fault for not beingt able to contain his urges, if she cheats, it's his fault for neglecting her. Remember that for your next public discussion >> women can do no wrong <<, it's always someone else's fault
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:56 AM
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Every man has to discover MGTOW himself though. Mass media won't promote it and if they do a report on it, they portrait MGTOWs as women-hating misogynists with mental issues. No one wants to join the movement after seeing something like that. So every year, new young men will grow up, get a job and become potential providers for women. Family laws make it easy to enslave them forever. The trap is way too tempting, especially for a young and horny guy. At the time he discovers MGTOW by himself, …
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:48 AM
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You can't expect people to work against their own interests. Women united a long time ago, men didn't, thats the problem. Many are still afraid to officially go MGTOW because feminists will crush them. I hope this movement will reach the critical mass soon. If everyone does it, exclusion and shaming doesn't work anymore. But right now, there are still too many white knight pussy betas out there, eager to fulfill their every wish, no matter how absurd it is.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:38 AM
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In my country the feminist party (they call themselves "green" but everyone knows what they really are) just lost all it's seats in the parliament. They went from over 12% to under 4% in just a few years. Now you would think they start reflecting on their own actions, maybe even realize that they made some mistakes but - haha - no, of course not. All they said (over and over again) was that people didn't understand their message and they have to communicate it more clearly. So what they do is pe…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:34 AM
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He can tolerate it or divorce. Either way, she will get his money. Once you married such a monster, maybe even have children with her, it's game over. There's really nothing you can do at that point. He's propably just trying to limit the damage by being nice to her. That way, maybe she will even have sex with him every once in a while.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:21 AM
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The husband is only a moneyslave and easily replacable if necessary. You don't respect a slave or even care about him, you let him work until he can work no more and then you get a new one.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:18 AM
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Wow, as if being a Golddigger is not bad enough, no, she's even proud of it. At least she is open about it, may give some guys the chance to run before it's too late.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 11:15 AM
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They don't sell sex, they sell the promise of sex. So as long as they keep up the illusion that you still have a chance (even a very small one), the system will continue to work. At least as long as not too many men go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 09:47 AM
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I think he is right, seriously. Women should not be forced to have an abortion or don't have one or whatever. However, I also think that men should have a choice as well. I the man says he doesn't want the child, but the woman insists on keeping it, the man should not be forced to pay for it. That would be the perfect compromise and absolutely fair in my eyes.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 09:44 AM
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You're right, it shouldn't. However, she is right. What will you do? If she decides to break up, she will get the child and you will pay for it. I calculated the cost in my country with my current salary. Studying is free here so you can expect your child to do it and that will take at least until 25. This would mean 150k total and no, I'm not rich or anything, so this is a huge amount of money for me. So, let her get away with it or pay 150k. I see no way you can win at this point.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 09:40 AM
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Same reason why you will find more muslims protesting against a cartoon about Muhammed than against radical Islamists. They simply don't think it's their problem and some part of them even believes that it can only be to their advantage. You don't protest against something that will give you an advantage.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 09:20 AM
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People always want to see world in a way that confirms their beliefs. If you look at the comments on MGTOW websites you will see a lot of men who simply hate on women in a rather radical way. They pick out these comments and tell themselves that that's the average MGTOW. They don't see us as people who walk away peacefully, they see us as people who are full of hatred and on the verge of a rampage. ​ Always remember, women are raised to believe that whatever goes wrong, it's never their fault. S…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 09:12 AM
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Every night? Haha, you wish! Maybe once a month, but only if you're a good boy.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 08:49 AM
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And you're right with that decision, never every doubt that even for a second. My philosphy is, I just stay a MGTOW, if I find a woman that will still be with me, fine, if not, I will accept that as well.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 08:23 AM
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Desperation is your worst enemy. Women can smell that and will use it against you. Problem is, society advertises sex as the greatest thing you could ever experience in your entire life, basically worth dying for. While we all agree it's good I think everyone over 30 who gets it regularly will also agree that it's not worth giving up your entire life for it. But you only know that once you're at this point and many men don't get there fast enough to prevent being imprisoned by manipulative bitch…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 08:15 AM
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Nope, people are just plain stupid, as easy as that.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 08:05 AM
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Talked to a few single mothers on tinder, even had a few dates with them and the pattern is always the same. Smoking hot (otherwise I wouldn't even talk to them), so she is used to having a free pick among men, whenever she is in the mood. But as soon as she brings up the kids, 50% of men back off almost instantly. 40% will try and see if they can have easy sex with her. Of course these 40% are not top grade material in her eyes. They would suffice as beta providers but that's it. But simply hav…
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 08:02 AM
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Women don't even know what they want. You might think it's all part of her genious plan but fact is, they are little children testing how far they can go. Let them get away with everything and they will only become angrier and angrier over time.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 07:29 AM
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Nah, they just want future tax payers and prefer that someone else pays for them. That's what child support and alimony are for. So the mother can raise her children in peace while someone is working his ass off to pay for the party. No politician would survive it, if he shifted these kinds of expenses to the tax payers. No, you have to give that to the most naive people of society, the beta males. Many will even be happy to accept the honor.
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 09:01 PM
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Exactly, and in a few generations western society will be the minority in the western world. At that point we can be sure that nerd stuff like environmental protection will be very popular. Western society will die out in the long run if we continue like this and non of the other societies on earth are even remotely willing to put so much effort in saving the planet (and even we do far to little). Not that having children with a dictator would be an acceptable solution, just to be clear about th…
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 08:51 PM
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Anyone can have a bad day and simply less desire to have sex temporarily. If it turns into a habbit though, the relationship is already over in my opinion. You might be used to each other but that's not a relationship, at least not for me. I would consider myself a MGTOW, I still have sex with women and I even think an LTR might be possible with the right one (Unicorn). But without sex it's doomed to fail at some point in the future. You can wait for her to end it / cheat on you and continue was…
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 03:53 PM
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Well, she simply doesn't want to have sex with this guy, as easy as that. I've had sex relationships, i.e. it's only about sex, meet, have sex, maybe cuddle a litte, leave. If a woman actually wants to have sex with you, it really doesn't need much to get her started. If she acts like in this post, it's just a nuisance for her. Maybe if she is really horny, it will even be good for her. Otherwise it's just work she has to do, so her partner keeps being a happy little beta provider. This kind of …
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 03:40 PM
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Problem is, you go to jail, she gets another beta provider... but you will still be in jail. In the end, she gets back to you for not obeying her and there's always another guy who will happily replace you. I would rather quit my job and live of social welfare while earning some money on the side. Maybe I would even migrate to a country, that will not enforce her alimony claims. But I would sure as hell not go to prison.
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 03:25 PM
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That's propably the only decent thing she has ever done in her life though.
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 03:18 PM
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Indeed, most guys in such an abusive relationship will not even admit that their partner has any flaws at all. I can't believe how afraid they are of being alone / sexless / not conform with society's standards.
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 03:16 PM
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Unfortunately, mainstream media deny that this is even a common issue with women. They make it look like this is a total exception. Anyone who dares to speak up will be marked as the most terrible person imaginable, a misognyist. Try living your life with that mark on you. If more men were to speak up in public, things might change. But the average joe gladly believes the comforting lies instead of accepting the ugly truth and MGTOWs just want to be left alone.
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 03:13 PM
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Male thirst is just a feral instinct and can be easily suppressed if your will is strong enough. Just masturbate daily, even multiple times if necessary. I usually don't leave the house, if my sexual desires are strong enough to cloud my judgement. Important choices in life should only be made with empty balls.
/r/MGTOW15/05/19 03:05 PM
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Only thing you can do in that situation is to break of every contact with this woman. If she calls, block the number, if she comes to visit, don't open the door. If she does happen to get a hold of you somehow, dump every bad though you had over the last years on directly on her. No mercy, make her cry, make her regret and make it very clear that you don't give a sh*t if she suffers. I wouldn't feel guilty, not for a second. I would simply laugh in her face, tell her what a bad mother and genera…
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 11:58 AM
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Why would it be any different from the rest of life. If a man wants a career he works hard for it, sacrifices all his free time, hobbies etc. just to reach his goal. Most women can't do that, they never adopted that kind of mindset. Why should they? It's not required of them. Men accept them anyway, we chase them, give them compliments and free stuff, even if they have nothing to offer but their looks and maybe a few sweet words (sometimes not even that).
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 10:56 AM
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Well played, very well played indeed. I would have tried to get her to do a paternity test though. Just to let her waste her energy trying to prevent it. Then wait until she pulled every last of her trump cards and only then you drop the vasectomy bomb. At least she kept the child. Her life is basically runied now. The dating market for single mothers is brutal, at least where I come from. A guy who is maybe a 5 can easily get an 8-9 there, if he has a stable income. I would say I'm about a 7 an…
/r/MGTOW13/05/19 09:35 AM
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I kept it like that from the Beginning. Women want to be equals? I say let them but in every way. ​ Still, usually it's hard to get a woman who actually earns more than you do. I'm in my early 30s and most girls in their late 20s still don't have a real career, most are still studying. I finished my Master's when I was 24 and already had a job, while still writing my thesis. I always valued my free time but I still got ahead in my job and am middle-class in my country now. I don't know why I sho…
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 07:00 PM
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Yep, I would just leave out the first part of the sentence...
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 05:55 PM
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Problem is, no matter how bitchy, stupid or straight out crazy she is, there will always be a beta desperate enough to be super nice to her anyway, just for a slim chance of sex. So these women will always find someone to validate them in their behavior. They don't have to change so they don't do it.
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 05:38 PM
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Also not true, Chad is basically just a guy who is assertive enough that she will not dare to question him and just do what he wants. That's it. If a guy has that mindset and is at least normal looking (not too small / ugly or whatever) he's often considered an Alpha by the typical woman.
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 05:32 PM
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That's it exactly! I've seen that kind of behavior more often than I care to count. The problem is that there are still so many guys who never get any female attention at all. When someone finally shows some interest, they immediately assume that this must be the one, their great love story. Men are victims of the media and movie industry. They believe the image they paint of women which has absolutely nothing to do with reality. If these guys would all wake up tomorrow and finally realize the t…
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 05:26 PM
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I know of course that this behavior is not limited to the hot ones. A long time ago I had a relationship with a below average looking and not particularly smart or successful girl. But she was 2 years older, willing to have sex with me and I was a young and horny guy. ​ She tried to make me a beta, telling me I should listen to her, because she is older and so on. She even tried the old "you have to ... if you want to be together with me" trick. Needless to say, I never gave in. I also didn't ha…
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 11:12 AM
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Yes, I guess that's the problem in a lot of cases, guys dating women way out of their league, thinking they can buy their loyalty somehow. But that's not how it works. If a women doesn't find you interesting enough to spend time with you, even if she gets nothing more out of it, then she's not really into you. That's just a huge red flag. If she starts demanding you to pay for stuff, you should simply leave right away. ​ Most guys can't do that if they find the girl really attractive. They think…
/r/MGTOW12/05/19 10:45 AM
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It's hard, I agree, but everyone can do it. Once you learn why some women are acting like that and what their motivations behind it are, you can easily spot the toxic ones. That's the hardest part, looking straight through all the sweet talk and the fake compliments, learning what real attraction looks like. Then you can finally stop wasting your time on women that only want to use you so they don't have to work themselves. And yes, sure that means you'll probably be single a lot and many people…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 11:48 AM
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Absolutely true. Most women love sex and even more so the older they get. So if she suddenly seems to have a lower libido, it's not a general issue, she just doesn't want to have sex >>with you<<. Usually it's because of loss of respect for some reason. Almost all women will only find you sexually attractive if they respect you. Once that's gone she might still have sex with you for benefits, but it won't be something she particularly looks forward to. Anyone who keeps going beyond this point is…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 11:34 AM
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I always ask myself, what do you guys see in such girls? Why do they keep paying for all kinds of stuff for them? Why did you do it? I was on several dates since I ended my last relationship 2 years ago. Sometimes I paid all drinks, but only if I felt like it and it was less than 10 bucks total (typical 1-2 hour date). Usually the women paid for their own drinks without even saying a word about it. I know there are a lot of women out there who expect the man to pay but why pick them? Why not pic…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 10:08 AM
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Well, you don't have to leave the geographic region and you don't have to leave entire society behind, just the toxic parts. Concentrate on people who are not like that. Be yourself, live your live and if you happen to meet a girl who accepts that, that's good. If you don't, you still have porn. Sex is overrated anyway, it's definitely not worth giving up the rest of your private life for it. And I say that as a guy who usually has sex at least once a week. I mean, yeah it's good, really good an…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 09:40 AM
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Luckily, there are things like genetic variance, so not all women are like that. Of course the ones who are different will often not work very hard to fulfill the usual beauty standards. Doesn't bother me, I don't like a lot of makeup anyway but a lot of guys want just this type of girl. That's the first thing, we have to change about ourselfs. ​ We have to stop chasing this type of girl. We have to stop treating them like some kind of special person, because there is a slim chance of sex. Most …
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 09:29 AM
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White knight syndrome is, unfortunately, very common in western countries. Those are super-naive guys who have to learn the hard way that women are not always poor little girls who need saving. That guy in particular had to really pay a rather large learning fee though. ​ Still, it's hard to really feel with him, because I know the type. Maybe he's the exception, so I don't want to judge him personally, just show my viewpoint on the general situation. Usually these guys have very high morale sta…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 09:09 AM
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