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Literally against the EU's own laws under Article 8 of the ECHR.
/r/MensRights23/07/26 08:39 PM
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You cannot be serious? A casual girlfriend is still labelled a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:25 PM
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You know what the F in FWB stands for, right? It means you can do stuff like that together too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:27 PM
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By that same rationale she lied by omission because he thought the relationship wasn't serious when she thought it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:50 PM
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Every relationship is an audition. If the woman is auditioning for the part of "wife" but seems content with the role of "casual lover", that is on her for not making things clear. This isn't emotional labor any more than the guy doing the pursuing in the first place is. If you find this diabolical and disturbing, then you are being unrealistic. There is no lying by omission (other than her not being clear about her intentions), nor is time a factor (some FWBs last decades). It isn't thinking th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:25 PM
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We weren't talking about "rejecting" though, we were talking about "being rejected". For future reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:05 PM
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I'm not talking about shaming anyone, I'm talking about the rejection that you mentioned that guys experience by the bucketload and women don't. Whether someone was raped as a child has literally nothing to do with whether they are more or less likely to experience rejection as an adult. It’s not if it was you’d be afraid of women, you’d be afraid of authority too and people. Authority and people who would act on behalf of women, like in the "How can she slap?" video?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:00 PM
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At the risk of repeating myself, child-rape is entirely unrelated to male rejection. There is absolutely zero overlap between these two entirely separate topics. Dragging one in to the conversation as if it is relevant to the other is either bad faith or being unable to to have a conversation about one because of your unresolved issues related to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:44 PM
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Those are not related topics and trying to squeeze them together when they are unrelated smacks of bad faith. Children can't consent, so rejection isn't relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:34 PM
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Women legit face so much back lash from men. Lol! Outside of the top few percent of guys, half care if she has a pulse and the other half don't! This reaction from this intense rejection sensitivity can be scary for women. This tiny fraction of potentially what every guy goes through multiple times is scary, is it? Toughen up, Buttercup!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:27 PM
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Like wearing a seatbelt or studying for exams?
/r/MensRights16/06/26 07:12 PM
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I have a friend who is 23 years old and despite being 6'3, handsome, intelligent, has a great sense of humor, and could easily be a ladykiller, he has no interest in dating or relationships because of how he sees women behaving and what he has seen happening to guys who have made the effort. He feels the investment simply isn't worth the return. And as for marriage, why would he enter a contract that the other party is rewarded for breaking? So he's MGTOW and having fun with male friends, video …
/r/MensRights23/05/26 10:24 PM
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Entirely wrong, OP. Red Pill is about attraction and investing in maintaining that over time in a relationship is the key to a long and successful relationship. Neglecting maintaining attraction is a significant factor in most relationships ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:19 PM
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Ok, and what behavior of women can we use to judge their morality? Nail it to the wall for me. Whatever matters to you as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:55 PM
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Exactly, it is amoral and how it is used is what determines an individuals' morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:14 PM
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It concludes, “after years of widespread gender bias in so many aspects of professional life, at least some societies have clearly moved closer to equal treatment when it comes to applying for many jobs.” PC parsing is the only way to get published. Also says men don’t want to be school teachers and receptionists, recent research reveals muted moral concerns about male underrepresentation in traditionally female jobs, due to the perceptions that such roles are low in status Overlooking the point…
/r/MensRights20/05/26 09:16 AM
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Could be anything from occasionally making the effort to alternatives that they also enjoy or beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:58 PM
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We not talking someone is tired or not in the mood Actually, that is very much one of the things we are talking about. I only want an enthusiastic eater nothing less or we aren’t sexually compatible. And you can discard with impunity as there are a plethora of alternatives ready to dive in face first, so to speak. It's quite a position of privilege to be in, no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:57 PM
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You have the mindset of the top 0.0001% of men. Abundance mentality galore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:41 PM
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You don't think there is any compromise to be had?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:25 PM
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You don't think there is any compromise to be had?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:25 PM
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So you are okay with a guy never giving oral sex in a relationship, even if the girl wants it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:57 PM
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Reverse the sexes and you'd be calling it the absolute bare minimum and arguing how she could do much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:55 AM
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Who’s crying about it? All I see is happy cat ladies who claim they need no man. Well... One time the frame is that there is a “male loneliness epidemic”. And the questionable stats show that women are in relationships and men are more often single. Next time “women approaching their 30s are crying about being alone”. Which is it? Are men the lonely gender? Or both? Both, for sure. But guys become more desirable as they get older, wealthier, more developed as individuals, more successful, experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:59 PM
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Agreed, hence all the cat ladies and 30-somethings (and even women approaching their 30s) crying about this exact thing. And it's all thanks to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:42 PM
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Lmao any time men with fragile egos call men who are just real and actually confident in their realness “cucks”. No, literal cucks. Not figurative. I did specify that. Ironically you would call such men, men we actually are attracted to, cucks. If you believe that, you don't understand what you are talking about. It’s insecure to think that a woman, who’s been attracted to others in her past (or feels attraction toward others currently) is only settling and not genuinely choosing you. If she is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:25 PM
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There are two options here. You want your partner to find you more attractive than others and to have chosen you rather than settling for you. And cucks. Whether you realize it or not, you and those disagreeing with me above are the latter. Literally, not figuratively.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:41 PM
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Many men here espouse a very childish and unreasonable point of view - one which they would never want imposed on themselves. It is: "women are only allowed to jump on my cock immediately and lust after me. They cannot, however, touch any other man." This is neither childish nor unreasonable, and for such obvious reasons I am not sure you can argue this in good faith. Generally speaking, every guy wants to be thought of as more desirable than other guys rather than merely settled for. A female v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:21 AM
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You've just described The Red Pill. A woman with too many guys in her past does devalue a woman to guys who don't want to be a "chump". Your theoretical college aged woman should have been more cautious about sleeping with Alex in your example if she wanted to have a serious relationship with Trevor, because Trevor, rightly, sees her actions with Alex as a reflection on her character, particularly if he perceives his treatment as worse than that of Alex as a result. So in your scenario, Trevor i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:18 AM
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"Neither the rich nor the poor are allowed to sleep under bridges, the law applies equally to all!"
/r/MensRights02/04/26 09:25 PM
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Of the two sexes you want the smaller, weaker and slower sex to assume the protector role? That's an interesting twist on what I said. It could also be spun as the sex by far less likely to be attacked to attempt to diffuse situations. But neither is what I was saying, which is that the issue is one of perception of the individual's self-value determining the extent to which they fret about the fear of being attacked.
/r/MensRights27/03/26 09:43 PM
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It is less about actual danger than perceived danger. It's less about perceived danger and more about the importance the individual places on their own safety and well-being. Women place far higher importance on their own safety than men, who are socialized into the expectation of self-sacrifice in the event of threat.
/r/MensRights27/03/26 02:49 PM
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Such precedents risk turning marriage into an open-ended economic obligation for men I think "risk turning into" is at least several decades behind the horse having already bolted.
/r/MensRights13/03/26 01:09 PM
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Well over a decade ago it was a solid mens space on this platform No it wasn't. It was always a cesspit of misandry and hatred masquerading as equality-focused.
/r/MensRights18/02/26 10:09 AM
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Why? When I was "17, 16 or younger" I was attracted to people the same age as me, why would that disgust you? Weren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:21 AM
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Red Piller's generally agree The Wall starts at 30 on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:18 AM
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For a relationship? They very much do care about trustworthiness as they want to know her kids are also his kids. For a fling, you're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:59 PM
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This is hilarious. You've asked people protecting their own egos. It doesn't remotely check out. Guys don't care whether you are in med school or nursing school. They care if you are attractive, trustworthy and kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:14 PM
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Understanding reality and truth better than before is making the world a better place too, regardless of curing cancer being greater in terms of 'better'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:12 PM
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Is understanding how female attraction works making the world a better place for guys previously unable to make sense of why they were failing with women? To them, yes. To women who resent guys that they previously would have rejected now being able to succeed with them sexually, that's perhaps a different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:03 PM
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it seems like a lot of you blame women for your lack of success No one red pilled does this. Literally, by definition. is treating them like a monolith advantageous for you? Where it refers to consistent behaviors e.g. hypergamy - yes. you’d definitely refute blanket statements made about men being misogynistic and sexist. Not the same thing at all, but fetishes aside men tend to have a broad and realistic understanding of what they find attractive even if there are individual differences. I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:51 PM
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The alleged victims and media.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 03:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/@girlwriteswhat/featured
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:15 PM
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If you choose to have sex, then you take on the burden of responsibility for any potential child that is a result of that sex. Period. Wrong. Again, only one person gets to decide what happens should a pregnancy occur following sex regardless of whether you care about that or not. If there is a child in the world because two idiots decided to have sex. They cannot make other innocent third party taxpayers now be responsible for their mistakes. That's it. Taxpayers are responsible for people's mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:00 PM
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Single mothers are six times more likely to have offspring who become criminals than married mother's. Who do you think is responsible for this outcome if not those mothers producing far greater likelihood of criminal offspring?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:45 PM
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Incorrect. Two people cause a pregnancy, only one person makes a baby and that takes around nine months. That person can at any time unilaterally choose to abandon their parental responsibilities too, whereas the other party cannot. Holding one person responsible for the decisions of another doesn't make that person responsible for the choices of the other no matter how much anyone pretends it is so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:43 PM
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In everyone’s eyes I’m a crackhead rapist. Really it is only a handful of scummy bullies that think this. I was fixing my health, focusing on studies, and actively going to the gym and eating healthy. I cannot get myself to do any of that now. You need to find a way to do these things. Routine helps. Taking care of yourself helps. Anything you do to get your life back on track helps. Find a way. Just do one. Then another. Then keep at it. I hate myself I hate the situation I’ve put myself in and…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 02:43 PM
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Yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 04:14 PM
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Liberal feminism is UIs and a mask worn by radicals who control the money and the movement. Radical feminism is real feminism as it is practised.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 10:57 AM
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I'm not sure if you are trolling or believe what you write. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it is the latter though as this is something you should definitely think about if that is the case. Men do not choose who to have sex with, women do. Men apply, women choose. The same with pregnancy, only women can choose to abort (or give up responsibility). It is always the woman's choice that determines whether sex happens and what happens if a pregnancy occurs. Denying this reality can onl…
/r/MensRights20/11/25 10:00 PM
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That's the point. If a woman chose to get pregnant by a guy like that it is 100% her responsibility for doing so.
/r/MensRights20/11/25 05:47 PM
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And not the fault of the father who wasn’t there for the child? It is the woman who gets to choose whether to become a parent or not, not the man. You’re not pro-men you’re just anti-women. We're pro responsibility and anti irresponsibility. It is both interesting and telling that you inadvertently demonstrate how the sexes face differing responsibility with your above comment. You don’t even make sense to yourself let alone me. It makes perfect sense and is easy to understand. The woman chooses…
/r/MensRights20/11/25 05:21 PM
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A man’s absence causes worse results and that’s somehow a woman’s fault…? Yes, the fault of the mother for choosing a partner who wasn't going to be there for the child and to complete the pregnancy knowing this. 100% the woman's fault.
/r/MensRights20/11/25 05:08 PM
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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/03/02/most-dangerous-jobs-america-database/11264064002/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:20 AM
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Thanks for clearing up that you weren't pretending. It isn't insecurity, it is hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:58 PM
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I'm not sure if you are pretending to be stupid or not here. Men do it because they value being able to attract and retain a suitable partner. Dual-income has no bearing on hypergamy existing, unless you are attempting to argue that women out earn men in most marriages, which we know not to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:19 PM
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OP answers this in the OP; because it is the only way for them to attract and retain a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:51 PM
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Even if every single one did, which is about as stupid an argument as it is possible to make, women only stuck with it because it beat the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:48 PM
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The price was being protected from dangerous elements at the expense of men who faced them in their stead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:31 PM
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I'm responding to the assertion that men are forced to do dangerous work because women won't pick them otherwise. They are not forced, and you know this. You're dressing this up as something more honourable because you know that the truth makes men look weak and insecure. The truth is exactly what you are denying with the above statement. As in 99% of women. Shouldn't we talk about 99% of women, who cares what the 1% of noble women are doing? Well, it wasn't 99% then and isn't 99% now; it was al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:46 PM
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Serfs were paid 'in kind' meaning goods. Not fairly, but paid. More than you could say for women. Serfs were not paid. They were allowed to subsist on owned land in exchange for a tithe. I facepalmed at this. Women aren't coercing you into anything. If a man thinks that pussy is worth more than his life and his health, he has the choice to do dangerous jobs. Or he could choose not to, and have fewer options but live a safer, longer life. What an injustice. Interesting that you would automaticall…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:28 PM
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Men were not paid for their work? Unless you were a slave, you were being paid in either currency or goods for your labour. This is how economies work and have worked since literally the 7th century. History didn't begin at the end of serfdom and you can't have your cake and eat it when talking about 150 years as a small era. Not only do these men volunteer for these jobs and can take a different, safer job at any time, but there are still heavy regulations around how those jobs are performed pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:58 PM
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Except for a very small era men historically weren't paid or respected for work they did either by that yardstick. And in all the careers since then where death or injury is most likely men massively outnumber women, so again by your own yardstick men still aren't treated like human beings. I'm not sure that your comment adds anything to the discussion as it doesn't address my points, nor does it offer anything constructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:42 PM
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Do you think about the price that comes with though? Because it isn't really how you portray it and you are to a significant extent still exposed to remarkably similar circumstances than you were before women could choose to have a job that pays them. For instance, the effect of the two income family had on accommodation and living costs mean that for many (most?) you need two incomes to afford a home that previously only used to require one income. Effectively this forces many into working who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:43 PM
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As I already stated above, there are protections that can be put in place to protect sex workers whilst also accepting that it cannot be regulated the same as other roles, as per the example I provided. Suggesting this is a straw man is missing the point I already made about providing greater rights and protections.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:59 PM
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I can only imagine that you are thinking about the West and not the world as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:53 PM
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You're kind of doubling down on my point without seeming to realise that is what you are doing with your comment above. Although regardless of how you personally feel about incels, at least you seem to acknowledge they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:48 PM
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I think it's a fair chunk less than 1%. I think the number is a lot less than what you think it is. Clearly you do as I'd estimate it was around 25%-33%. Through that, a man can easily find connections and someone who will want to spend more time with him intimately. "Easily" is doing way too much heavy lifting in that sentence. And it simply isn't true regardless. There is such a thing as "the friendzone" for guys deemed not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:46 PM
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Those guys are very few and far between. Even if that were true, it would still be an awful lot of people. Most men would be able to get sex without paying by being a fun person to be around Being fun to be around doesn't grant the reward of sex. Hell, sometimes it isn't even a necessary condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:35 PM
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It has protections for workers in various places to various degrees, not in corresponding to regular employment that you can post a vacancy announcement for and be required to take the role or lose benefits if you are unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:33 PM
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I cannot fathom the combined level of privilege and lack of empathy required to think that way. Surely you must understand that there are some guys who will never have sex at all unless it is paid for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:28 PM
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Whilst some guys might use slurs against women they see sleeping around with guys other than them, few do the same if they are in the loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:26 PM
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It could be if we had proper regulation over it. No it couldn't. You can't garnish a woman's benefits if she wouldn't take a job in a brothel and would rather stay on benefits. Or a guy if he didn't want to do the gay-for-pay porn. I'm all for supporting sex workers and giving them greater rights and protections, but it is not and could not be like any other job if we had proper regulation over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:23 PM
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Bill Pullman's character in Sleepless In Seattle always seemed to be the least believable character ever shown on screen in any movie ever (including Howard The Duck).
/r/MensRights07/10/25 07:23 PM
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Caring more about what a guy can provide you with than about the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:27 AM
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She just wants to measure the future and your ambition. Thats it That is being a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:32 PM
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SWERFs don't acknowledge or even understand that those willingly engaging in porn/sex work are exploiting those they profit from and not the other way around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 11:00 AM
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had I not tried and assumed I'd never have a chance, then I wouldn't have had a chance. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:07 PM
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If there were someone for everyone then there wouldn't be such a things as incels or cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:01 PM
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With respect, you don't seem to understand what you are talking about. Alpha is an outcome i.e. a guy who is able to readily attain casual sex. Beta is someone who is not readily able to. You are trying to attribute these terms to traits they do not apply to. Height and athleticism may make things easier but they are not guarantees of alpha status at all. If the guy was needy, lacking confidence, ugly, dull, etc. these can all negate any positives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:56 PM
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Women are inherently valued with everything from programs to advantage them throughout every aspect of life from health to the workplace to education to socializing to women-only spaces to notions of "women and children first!", etc. The imagined 'male privilege' is actually the burden of performance expectation in practice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 10:51 AM
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Completely insufficient compensation for the cost to the two officers. The senior official who made the decision should be sacked and they should be reinstated with full back pay.
/r/MensRights02/09/25 09:19 PM
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I’m clear-sighted enough to see that objectively we live in a patriarchy. If you think that then you aren't clear sighted at all. There is nothing remotely resembling a patriarchy when men are at the bottom of every single quality of life measure and are dismissed and shamed for pointing this out. every woman in my life finds a reason to hate me more than loving me Chris Rock said it best when he said men are only valued for what they can provide. If you want someone to see you as more you need …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 06:45 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOkI2CmD2D8
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:36 PM
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"Okay, professor Wrangham, into the machine!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/25 07:37 PM
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a physically larger man is likely to be better able to protect and provide. Traditionally the biggest and strongest were the front line canon fodder as soon as homo sapiens started forming social groups. They were more for protection than provision, where those with brains, leadership skills, and wisdom have tended to historically dominate. EDIT: u/SidewaysGiraffe has blocked me so I cannot respond to their post below. Suffice to say that Homo Sapiens aren't the same as chimps and have substanti…
/r/MensRights18/08/25 03:33 PM
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anti-terrorism is "radical left"? No. Those applying PREVENT inappropriately against those espousing views they don't like but aren't within the purview of PREVENT are "radical left". You should see the issues the policy faces regarding disproportionately targeting Muslims boys, that goes against the grain a tad no? Actually, one would expect PREVENT to be disproportionately targeting Muslim boys. You are making false equivalents because you don't understand the policy. I assure you, I understan…
/r/MensRights10/08/25 01:44 PM
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But in practice, what is clearly going to happen is that basic, nonviolent MRA views will become tarred with the brush of "dangerous radicalism." This is the issue. Whilst /u/-Soggy-Potato- is correct that PREVENT is a gender neutral policy, it is being applied by radical left-leaning teachers, social workers and others who come into contact with children who are espousing perfectly mainstream and socially acceptable views that are not remotely misogynistic or dangerous, and these kids are being…
/r/MensRights10/08/25 01:02 PM
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OP means defeat at sports (although there is no reason that couldn't include full contact sports...)
/r/PussyPassDenied31/07/25 04:42 PM
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most of them exist because women kept getting talked over, sexualized, or ignored in mixed spaces. Even if that were true, it isn't justified when male-only spaces from scouts to golf clubs have been forced through legislation to accept women. Respect shouldn’t be conditional. Respect is always conditional on behavior and the behavior men are seeing from women when it comes to women only spaces are "One rule for me, another for thee".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:28 PM
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
/r/MensRights20/07/25 07:51 PM
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It is important to be aware that Valenti was being sarcastic in the latter article and not acknowledging this is making as huge a mistake as those feminists who didn't realise Paul Elam wasn't advocating beating women when he gender swapped the terms in a pro-male-assault article from Jezebel magazine in August 2007 to draw attention to it.
/r/MensRights17/07/25 01:27 PM
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Reddit has exactly the same policies that refuse to acknowledge hate directed at certain groups. It's the societal norm justified only through denial and hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 04:38 PM
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Men have never been the default picker. The very notion is ludicrous. Memes, jokes and locker room talk is still normal. Women have just reduced the size of their potential partner pool as a result of online dating creating the illusion that there are a larger number of attractive men looking for commitment than there are, leading to disillusionment for so many more women than previously as those they chase don't want them because other girls are chasing those guys too. There is no equity and ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:57 PM
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What some Red Pillers say doesn't denote what Red Pill is. What Red Pill is, is what is shown to empirically be true by virtue of result. One can argue all they want with the reasons an outcome has come about but they cannot argue that the outcome hasn't occurred when it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:29 PM
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But Red Pill see that no matches, and the only conclusion is "women choose 10% of successful men, 6,6,6..." and then act like its the only explanation. Occam's Razor? Do you think that they are right or wrong about women on dating apps only considering a very small pool of the total men on dating apps? Truth is you have to not only have a data but be intelligent enough to see multiple patterns and be able to prove them wrong. If you understand this, why is your flair blue rather than red? Becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:15 PM
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I haven't said that your specific perspective is a double standard, I've said that a double standard exists in the comments in this thread and that some contributors have acknowledged this. This may have got lost in the cross conversations, apologies for any misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:37 PM
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If you hadn't downvoted and had asked in good faith I would have happily pointed you to the plethora of data that exists regarding the consumption of "extreme" porn, but being snide like this you can easily find it yourself if you are so inclined.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:06 PM
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You still haven't explained how my perspective is a double standard. It is a double standard to apply different standards to each of the sexes doing the same thing. Have you done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:57 PM
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There are plenty of men who don’t consume pornography. No, there are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:53 PM
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Every study ever done on the subject shows this. There is no source that contradicts it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:48 PM
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I want to discuss why women judge men for looking at the same types of porn that women look like and why the double standard exists. This thread is perfect for that because it has produced so many women prepared to admit to judging men for porn viewing in a way that they do not judge women for the exact same thing. The fact that women predominantly consume the types of porn in question is useful for drawing attention to the double standard but neither in dispute nor the subject of the discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:47 PM
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I explained the failure in your thinking already where you claim "it's not the exact same type of action explicitly because they engage with it differently". when they haven't even demonstrated to have one They have and they did the decent thing and acknowledged it. you get defensive when they say something about men Projection? I've only talked about the double standards being demonstrated and flawed assumptions being made. And I've only done that so that the individuals making them can see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:34 AM
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Well, it is coercion now that you mention it as in this scenario you are literally coercing someone via threat, but I didn't mention that word previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:30 AM
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There is a double standard when you judge one sex differently to the other for the same action. And that is exactly what is happening in this thread where commenters aren't just talking about those they'd date but male friends who watch that type of porn too. Again, you've either failed to understand this or are being deliberately disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:40 AM
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You seem to be making incorrect assumptions about which gender is predominantly doing this though, as well as ignoring the consent element (and that's without getting into things like lesbian porn). Frankly it seems like you are trying and failing to find evidence to support your biases rather than trying to understand the matter under discussion. Women consume far more degrading porn than men, both with female submissives and male submissives. But you only judge men for this and seem to be assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:38 AM
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Because the judgements being made are making assumptions that men are consuming this when it is predominantly not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:29 AM
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It literally is imposing something on someone under threat of leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:24 AM
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This should be good - why is the exact same thing consumed by two different people not the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:24 AM
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If you think it is irrelevant then you've not understood the topic. The majority consumers of this type of porn are not the audience that is being referenced in the discussion. My drawing attention to this for those who seemed unaware is hardly spamming, but engaging in good faith discussion. Unlike your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:23 AM
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Thanks for clarifying. It's interesting that we were both thinking of porn as a substitute but for differing reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 10:00 PM
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Well, firstly, there is more porn of women degrading men than vice versa, but for the sake of argument let's assume that both a man and a woman are watching lesbian BDSM porn as their preferred niche. Would you still judge them differently for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:58 PM
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But you acknowledge your double standard in how differently you view male viewers and female viewers of the same type of degrading porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:48 PM
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I hadn't even thought of him actually acting out the fantasies he watches in porn, rather that the more similar to you the porn he watches is, the less reason there seems to be to watch the porn rather than be intimate with you. If he likes something you don't though and watches that, I can see the logic there in that. You seem to look at it the other way around to me and whilst your view seems to be the majority here in this thread I'm really struggling with how it makes sense to you when it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:44 PM
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Again though, that would seem more applicable if he wasn't fulfilled with what he does have and was seeking more of what he does have access to in reality from porn rather than the fantasy stuff that isn't close to his actual sexual experience. Do you understand what I mean and how what you are saying here seems counter-intuitive e.g. finding suitable partners for a threesome requires a lot more effort than finding a relatively similar-type of sexual partner to what you have already?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:30 PM
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Otherwise, who am I to yuck someone’s yum? Apparently it seems that in this thread you are the minority in being okay with other people having fantasies that diverge from your own!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:26 PM
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What about a female friend or romantic partner, as they tend to consume that type of porn far more than men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:24 PM
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Being that women are by quite a significant margin the largest consumers of that type of porn, why do you care if a man shares that fantasy? It isn't as if you'd have a relationship with someone unable to distinguish fantasy from reality (and you'd be able to tell pretty damn quickly if that was the case), so why take issue with such a guy sufficiently to deem him untrustworthy? Would you drop female friends who liked this type of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:23 PM
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If a guy watches porn that clearly depicts “noncon” or abuse against women I do not want to date him or be around him. Don't women watch this type of porn much more than men? If a guy watches “teen” porn or any porn with actresses that are supposed to be childish I do not want to date him or be around him Where would you draw the line? If a guy watches incest porn I do not want to date him on the sole reason that I do not want my future children around somebody who clearly gets off to the idea o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:20 PM
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Why? Isn't the whole purpose of porn to fantasize about the things you can't easily experience in your own life? Shouldn't you be more worried if he is looking at porn he can experience with you as why would he be looking at that if he has the real thing in a relationship with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:14 PM
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I just don't see lasting harm based on this interaction. I get what you mean, but the point others are trying to make here is that based on his reaction this appears to be not remotely the first time this has happened with this type of abuse and the covering up of it when he realized the cameras were on him demonstrating how normalized this was in the relationship. In other words what we are seeing here appears to be only the tip of the iceberg. Dismissing it as not being an action that causes l…
/r/MensRights28/05/25 05:22 PM
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Part of our societal problem is that normal and playful interactions between the sexes have been mislabeled as toxic or harmful Whilst you are correct with the above... this interaction between consenting adults ...no one who saw what happened could honestly say that this interaction was between consenting adults.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 09:06 PM
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I can't believe the number is that low considering how office banter has died!
/r/MensRights25/05/25 10:29 PM
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Exactly. The problem is not that society hates men and coddles women, the difference is feminism fought for change and the manosphere doesn't actually care about changing things for men. No, it's that neither sex listens to men's issues because men have an outgroup bias whereas women have an ingroup bias. Unless women campaign for change in this facet of society nothing will change. And because it doesn't benefit women to campaign for change in this facet of society, too few will do so for it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:46 PM
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My favorite book on men's rights that often sails under the radar because it is marketed as for young men when (whilst it is brilliant for young men) is great for everyone is Jack Kammer's Heroes Of The Blue Sky Rebellion. If you only ever buy one book on this issue this is the one I'd recommend over any other.
/r/MensRights15/05/25 05:43 PM
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Lol! Ouch!
/r/MensRights29/04/25 09:23 PM
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It's just small things. Self burn! Rare!
/r/MensRights29/04/25 08:59 PM
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The difference between false accusations and provably false accusations being referenced in the discussion above seems to have been lost on you because of shorthand. Ironically, if you'd read what you are posting under you'd have understood the semantics.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/04/25 09:32 AM
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What I am claiming is what actually happened. In my other post I've provided links that describe this in extensive detail. What you are doing is not accepting reality because you want to believe something else because of your own biases. I do not have those biases that you have because I investigated primary sources instead of relying solely on biased secondary sources that the evidence of the primary sources shows to be inaccurate. You'd realise this yourself if you'd ever bothered to do the sa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 08:40 PM
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A primary source is original material that provides firsthand evidence about a topic, event, or person. It's the raw material or original source of information, closest to the subject being researched. Interviews, documentaries, raw footage, public addresses, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVzKHw_1D8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnhwBoFxaDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YaOoQxT7Ug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiBsZErTk7Y https://www.you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 08:30 PM
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Physician, heal thyself. I get my information from primary sources, not what biased interlocutors say about them. If you did the same instead of accepting propaganda because it confirms your own biases you'd realise why you are wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 07:38 PM
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The EDL was founded to protest the abuse of returning soldiers and expanded into anti Islamism, not anti-Islam, against the Muslim rape gangs operating with impunity in the area. This is well documented and available online, what you are claiming is what the media said, not what actually was. Failing to differentiate between what you are told by a biased source and what the actual evidence shows is why you've been taken in by the propaganda misrepresenting the historic record.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 07:37 PM
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Morons on our side will use it to say it means 90% are false. Whilst some may say that, I've never seen it. What I have seen is people arguing that taking into account the evidence required for conviction (sometimes not even he-said-she-said) and taking into account the number of convictions that are later overturned on appeal (and the difficulty of obtaining the funds and evidence required for appeal), we can know that convictions are A) including at least some false accusations, and B) can be …
/r/EverydayMisandry13/04/25 07:20 PM
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It may not be a popular sentiment on a subreddit like this, but Feminism divides society into an oppressor class (men) and an oppressed class (women). It is this belief that society is a Patriarchy that makes feminism a left wing movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 10:46 AM
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It's really obvious. Only someone who doesn't understand the subject at all would think this.
/r/MensRights11/04/25 11:43 PM
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The EDL was founded as an anti rape gang organisation. You seem not to realise how uninformed you are about him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/25 11:42 PM
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It really isn't though. That is just what the media has said and too many people seem to accept it as true without actually verifying it. And if they do try to verify it they see it isn't true as everything about the guy has been misrepresented. He isn't far right, nor is he a thug. He's just a guy who wanted action taken on the rape gangs operating with impunity in his area and was wrongly vilified for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/25 10:40 PM
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Perhaps for a few hours, or even days in some cases, but it is very rare that shock would last longer than that, especially once you are out of imminent danger, and certainly not for decades.
/r/MensRights11/04/25 03:22 PM
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Not every allegation made about something that happened twenty years ago is false. Aside from the fact that you cannot know that one way or the other, it absolutely begs the question as to why the matter wasn't reported until after all the evidence that could have supported one side or the other is no longer available. Also humans like all other animals are natural rapists and the numbers are heavily underreported (for both genders). Are they heavily underreported? Again, how can we know? If any…
/r/MensRights11/04/25 02:21 PM
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On the other hand, the more convinced you are that you were raped the more seriously you take it at the time and the more likely you are to go to the police and hospital soon after.
/r/MensRights11/04/25 02:18 PM
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I've seen footage when he's been attacked and defended himself. I can only guess you've seen edited footage, like the guys at Manchester Airport at the end of July last year who attacked police but the initial footage released only showed the police response? Really though, if this is what you are trying to stick with in response to what I've said above, you'd be better off biting the cognitive-dissonance-bullet and re-evaluating the propaganda you've been fed and looking objectively at the fact…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 10:16 PM
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He's not far right, not racist, not defended a paedophile once the evidence came to light that the accusations were true rather than politically motivated, not been violent since his youth, and his criminal convictions are hardly an issue. All of which you'd be aware of if you were interested in the truth rather than reinforcing your bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 07:10 PM
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You know nothing about this, as if you did you wouldn't have provided such a blatantly partisan source for a link that doesn't even pretend to provide an objective assessment. Suffice to say that Robinson is painted as a far-right boogeyman by those who are emotionally invested in partisanship. The reality is that he's just a guy who has been wrongly vilified by the media because he's drawn attention to politically incorrect occurrences and fits the demographic profile of someone it is political…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 07:05 PM
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I did say why your premise was wrong; "Activists have been altering the wiki entry on this subject for some time now to try and paint an untrue picture of it as a conspiracy theory." Rewriting the truth is Orwellian, which you'd know if you'd read 1984. You haven't provided any evidence because there isn't any. A couple of YouTube opinions, TL;DW, won't cut it either. Although if either of them has anything you'd consider to be a relevant point, please do feel free to posit it. Also, projection-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 09:00 PM
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That post of yours above this was your opportunity to explain why you thought you were right about Cultural Marxism. That you've not done so demonstrates my point far better than I could have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 08:38 PM
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At the risk of repeating myself, if you'd done your research you would know what actually happened instead of regurgitating misleading and disingenuous second hand sources. Robinson's reporting on the grooming gang trials did not remotely "almost collapse" any trial, this was merely the judge's summing up of the seriousness of his contempt of court charge to press for a harsher sentence than was warranted. All of which you'd know yourself if you had done any research yourself into what you are t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 07:04 PM
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Why does anyone need single sex spaces? Let alone have them as some sort of “right”. Everything from a desire for privacy to wanting to be able to compete against peers in sporting competitions. Forcing people to use neopronouns is silly Yet fighting against compelling individuals to do so under law is how Peterson became famous and exactly the sort of thing that was proposed as legislation until Peterson and his ilk pointed out the elephant in the room. you’re pretending that some of the most r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 05:59 PM
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How is his idea of Cultural Marxism wrong? It isn't wrong. Activists have been altering the wiki entry on this subject for some time now to try and paint an untrue picture of it as a conspiracy theory. Anyone using it in the sense preceding your comment is either willfully complicit or a useful idiot as a supporter of Orwell's 1984 as a model for ideal society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 05:54 PM
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You seem to be implying that Robinson went to prison for collapsing a trial. This is not correct. He was jailed for contempt of court for filming outside the court building and his use of inflammatory language before the case had concluded which "could have", but did not cause a mistrial. The irony of you calling me a fool and telling me to do research when I understand what we are discussing here and you do not really does take the biscuit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 05:51 PM
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Jordan Peterson is pretty centrist on most issues, including those he is wrongly labelled right wing e.g. pronoun usage, which he only opposes as compelled speech. Tommy Robinson is not remotely accurately represented by the politically correct view you've posited and didn't come close to collapsing any grooming gang trials. Getting Kemi Badenoch was a coup for Peterson and he absolutely should have conducted the interview. Referring to him as a clown is at best self-delusional. Those suckered i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 01:48 PM
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but rules out a minister for men. All mouth, no trousers.
/r/MensRights24/03/25 05:34 PM
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Why do you act like people are black and white robots that act like this? Because, as a rule, people tend to behave according to rational self-interest. Again, I'm not a robot and I don't think like this. Yet you lost attraction when he tried to play games with you (and rightly so).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:10 PM
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How is that ridiculous? Because if he was your best option it would have been worth fixing things. Because he cried in front of me over a year ago? That's actually what you think? If you honestly believe that I don't know what to tell you. You didn't because he wasn't the best you could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:47 AM
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This guy was in many ways my 'best option'. Don't be ridiculous. I could've married this guy and had kids with him straight away, I wouldn't even need to work since he's making decent money. And yet you didn't. And we both know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:25 AM
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Dread game wouldn't work regardless, it's absolute bullshit cringe. You think that because you don't understand it. As I've tried to explain to you above, it isn't making the other party feel bad, it is demonstrating to them what they aren't appreciating adequately and at risk of losing if they aren't taking the relationship seriously. What does that have to do with literally anything that I said? I explained this above too. Had he not been insecure and engaged in unattractive behavior prior to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:28 AM
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Dread game is about demonstrating what the other party is at risk of losing, not making the other party feel unappreciated or undesired. It certainly wouldn't work if the party engaging in it is making themselves appear not worth keeping. Indeed, it could very well result in the "ick" which is what appeared to happen in the case you describe, OP. I hope it isn't lost on you that this all happened after he cried in front of you, too. Failing to understand how to maintain attraction resulting in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:14 AM
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Unicorns are a LOT easier to find than unbiased judges/shrinks!
/r/PussyPassDenied11/02/25 02:15 PM
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Shaming is a well-known and long-established tactic to denigrate others. The irony is feminism is just as toxic a label with far less egalitarian associations but I bet your 'friend' would not eschew that label. Ignorant hypocrites wrongly throwing stones in glass houses do not have the moral high ground they believe they do. Don't give in to them as doing so only makes the world a worse place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 08:02 PM
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Discernment in prior sexual associations doesn't mean not sleeping around. That is exactly what it means. You can enjoy getting cucked to your heart's content if that is what appeals to you and if you find a partner who is happy to do that to you, more power to you. But it is not normal and most women aren't looking for such a partner. Pretending otherwise is... cope. Not having sufficient sexual experience is a red flag. If you wouldn't date a girl because she was a virgin, that's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:44 PM
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To have a wide range of nuance is to ~not~ be TRP. Why do you think this when it cannot be correct? the only action you gave for women is to have as little sexual partners as possible. My question again is.. why? Because the sort of partners they are seeking tend to filter out women with multiple sexual partners from serious consideration. why is the number of partners you have valued for women but not men? Why do you think that is so? Discernment in sexual selection is valued by both sexes and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:25 PM
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I'm not sure if you genuinely don't understand what you are saying or not. Asking for specifics when generalities are the order of the day makes you look like you're either not acting in good faith or are ignorant of what you are discussing. The generalities boil down to "be the sort of partner the sort of partner you want would want" and the specifics would be based on that sort of partner. For most women, who are pretty consistent about the sort of partner they want i.e. wealthy, accomplished,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:57 PM
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if TRP warns women against the things OP said It doesn't. Why do they value women who don’t have experience? Experience is extraneous, it simply doesn't matter to most men whether a woman went to college or traveled. You seem to be mistaking this for valuing women who don't have experience. What does TRP mean then if they think men and women should do as they please? I literally addressed this in my first response to OP that you seem to be now ignoring. Red Pill advice to men is take responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:37 PM
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Actually, you just proved mine. All actions have consequences. Traveling and college both have positives and negatives, risks and rewards. Only an idiot (or a liar) would think that TRP suggests they are not worthwhile for women to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:29 PM
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This is just silly. Red Pill advice to men is take responsibility for their own lives. Red Pill advice to women is that actions have consequences. Advice to both is 100% valid. Your misrepresentations are at best disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:37 PM
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total numbers are a poor choice of statistic when more men are murdered in general. Do you think you would ever say "total numbers are a poor choice of statistic when more women are sexually assaulted in general"?
/r/MensRights21/01/25 08:18 PM
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My statement is actually true I mean you can look it up Your statement isn't true. I'm asking why you think it is? EDIT: Let me save you a bit of time. If you've looked at the research have you done anything beyond look at the conclusions? Have you looked at the rationale for them? The issues with data gathering? How determinations were made? What constituted confirmation of a false allegation? Whether they included accusations not made to authorities? Etc.? To save you a bit of time and effort,…
/r/MensRights09/01/25 09:36 AM
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The majority of sexual assault accusations are false. What do you think should be different?
/r/MensRights09/01/25 07:32 AM
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Why do you think this?
/r/MensRights09/01/25 07:23 AM
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False accusations happen no where near the rate that just literall assault or rape happens. Why do you think this?
/r/MensRights09/01/25 07:22 AM
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He'll always be remembered for: Trudeau: "Women never lie about sexual assault!" woman: "Trudeau sexually assaulted me!" Trudeau: 🤦‍♂️
/r/MensRights07/01/25 05:54 PM
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40% admit it. That doesn't mean the other 60% wouldn't do it, it just means some of them don't admit they would.
/r/MensRights29/12/24 12:29 PM
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TBF Labour told them in opposition that they'd make sure the WASPI's got a fair settlement and that is exactly what has happened with them getting nothing.
/r/MensRights19/12/24 10:58 AM
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You are almost certainly dealing with individual "feminists" i.e. those, like you, who self-identify as feminists but actually believe in equality. These are very different from what most people consider feminists i.e. those who are well known as leaders and icons within the feminist movement and control the money, the narrative and the influence. Such feminists have consistently fought against equality whenever it has disadvantaged women in everything from campaigning against ending lifelong al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 02:08 PM
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It is interesting that you refer to yourself as a feminist when mainstream majority feminists are against each of your bullet points you say you want on your list. Wanting to address men's issues too would put you firmly under the label of a men's rights activist yourself according to most feminists and an egalitarian according to everyone else. Most of this sub will agree with you about abolition of gender roles and ending the women are wonderful effect in principle, but most men's rights suppo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/24 10:58 AM
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The simple answer is because they project their own default views onto the other side and assume that this side hates women as much as they hate men. They don't even conceive that this side supports actual equality whereas they support equality only in areas where women are disadvantaged whilst retaining special privileges where equality isn't present.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 12:39 PM
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Any of the things you cited that they feel aren't reciprocated enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:56 PM
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What relationship lifting exactly? Whatever feels like too much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:20 PM
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If a woman is genuinely attracted to you, you don’t have to do all this shit. Nonsense. Being attractive in the first place requires a great deal of investment. And maintaining that within a relationship requires a lot of investment too. A woman left to do any real lifting in a relationship will soon get fed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:24 PM
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It's like when Google dropped it's "Do no evil" motto. Endorsing hate because of a perceived non-vulnerability of the victims demonstrates that they are an acceptable target for hate disproving the non-vulnerability hypothesis. Only someone incapable of logic could be so blinded to their own bigotry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/24 12:04 PM
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You've identified the issue, which isn't that women aren't seen as less competent but that men are expected to be competent because they are only valued for their utility instead of innately. Women are given the luxury of not being required to become competent in a way that men are not. In other words, this supposed disadvantage feminists argue women face is actually proof of the opposite i.e. it is an advantage women have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/24 11:06 AM
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Some feminists have been swayed to our cause by coming over here to argue with us only to find that they've been banned from other subreddits for doing so. It's a real slap in the face for many of them who honestly didn't believe that their side was as censorious and authoritarian as they are.
/r/MensRights26/11/24 01:08 PM
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I believe I am talking about drink spiking, specifically Rohypnol IIRC, but it may be that I am misremembering. Certainly I think you are correct about injection spiking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/24 10:04 PM
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I remember reading some time back before COVID that the UK police had found that when blood had been tested there was actually not a single case of spiking in the entire country and that in every instance it was instead a case of too much alcohol being mistaken for spiking. I've no idea what the numbers of real spiking are now but am aware that citations may be for accusations rather than verified instances and should be treated with caution and scepticism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/24 07:47 PM
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The wage (not pay) gap is a result of female privilege in not having to bear the burden of being the breadwinner and instead having the option to choose more personally fulfilling work.
/r/MensRights22/11/24 01:32 PM
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There was not even a false allegation here, just the supposed feeling of discomfort, which for all we know may have been coaxed from the woman via teasing from peers about the incident, was enough to destroy this young man's life. Something is very wrong in a society where this can happen.
/r/MensRights09/11/24 03:57 PM
24

How come inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization is MUCH higher in women's prisons? Because women have to be six times as violent as a man to get sent to prison, so those women who are in prison tend to be far more serious criminals than the vast majority of men in prison. You would expect the ratio to change if men and women were treated equally by the courts in terms of sentencing, but the courts are so biased against men and in favor of women that only the most serious female offenders end up w…
/r/MensRights27/10/24 08:20 PM
7

What you've written here is completely disingenuous and misleading. What actually happened is that the "bitter ex", as you describe him published details of Zoe Quinn receiving endorsements (including funding and positive reviews) without acknowledgement of the personal relationship from journalists she was having sex with in what was at the time known as the "Five Guys Memo".
/r/MensRights26/10/24 11:44 AM
4

Why do you think it isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:44 AM
2

You're allowed to hate it all you want , but so is he for you being willing to do something sexual with someone else that you aren't prepared to do with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:25 AM
2

It is really only the top single digit percentage of men who have the option of women who are "casual sex material". Your invisibility to the 90+% of men is what leads to you misunderstanding what you are describing above, which for most men is whether a woman would make a faithful and good partner or whether you know they wouldn't but they are so desirable that you'd ride the wave for as long as you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:54 AM
6

Why would women be immature in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:35 AM
6

And calling man "full package" is dehumanizing, we aren't packed goods in shop. Everyone knows the story about the husband store...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:34 AM
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the implicit association test https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/rabble-rouser/202203/12-reasons-be-skeptical-common-claims-about-implicit-bias
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/24 11:57 AM
3

It's not a toomah!
/r/MensRights02/10/24 10:54 PM
5

Actually, they've supposedly accepted this now but are instead arguing that this counts lesbian women who've experienced violence in relationships with men before they came out as lesbian and that when they have relationships with women things are nothing but rainbows and unicorns. But this data includes women who've never had male relationships and gay male relationships suggest violence is less likely to be instigated by men too. It's just their way of accepting the data is correct about lesbi…
/r/MensRights01/10/24 05:38 PM
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Look, ladies, you have to choose. They don't though, and as a result they become crazy cat spinsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:22 PM
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Reddit's admins have a history of being hostile-to-tepid with respect to men's subs, but sometimes they do take this stuff seriously. Narrator: Only if the sexes were reversed would the admins take it seriously.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 06:16 PM
1

I'm not sure if you are pretending not to understand or not, but it is clear you are refusing to whether it is intentional or not. Suffice to say that it is a lot easier to get rid of anything in life you have a plethora of than things that are more irreplaceable and required a great deal of investment to obtain. This is not limited to relationships and is independent of whether you are choosing to be positive in the good and bad times or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:21 AM
2

That not only doesn't make any of what I wrote above not true, it is much easier to be happier staying single if you have an abundance mentality because you know that should you not be satisfied single it is also a state you can easily change. In other words, what you wrote here entirely supports my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:01 PM
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Abundance mentality. It is a lot easier to walk away from someone if you have others lining up to take their place than if it took a lot of time, effort and resources and there is no alternative in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:56 PM
2

Okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:59 PM
18

rape is so hard to prove The number of wrongful convictions later overturned on appeal demonstrates that this is not remotely true. Rape convictions require zero evidence. Not even the alleged victim accusing the defendant i.e. the Ched Evans case. But getting a wrongful conviction overturned cost the accused over £350,000 in this case, which most people don't have when they are in prison. Thank God for groups like The Innocence Project.
/r/MensRights03/09/24 07:49 PM
4

Being "red pilled" is just awareness of how female attraction works in practice. It doesn't guarantee success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:38 PM
5

Rape happens more to men and women tho than false allegations Why do you think this? you seem more upset that a few false allegations happen per 100,000 rapes per year than the actual issues surrounding rape Where do you get these numbers from and how is it that you don't understand why they cannot be accurate?
/r/EverydayMisandry25/08/24 10:09 AM
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Imagine thinking that supporting men’s rights and acknowledging their issues is uncivilised and bigoted. They don't think that. They are just evil people and pretending that anything anti-feminist is anti-equal rights to justify their fascism.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/08/24 04:48 PM
1

Fortunately the UK does not follow the Duluth model for IPV, nor is this related to PREVENT.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 04:36 PM
2

She literally says this is going to sound insane, bc she knows that it is... She was probably high out of her mind when she took and sent the photo. When you've taken a bunch of MDMA things that are insane don't always seems so much at the time.
/r/MensRights10/08/24 01:48 AM
5

Surely even she has to realise that she wasn't promoting a conflict about her job but her behaviour beyond her job if she's going back to the hotel of a customer after her job has finished?
/r/MensRights10/08/24 01:40 AM
0

The ICC has plenty of evidence of sexual assaults by Israeli soldiers, mostly on Palestinian men and boys I'm going to call bullshit on this. Humiliating and degrading treatment? Sure, I'll buy that as a possible interpretation. But men being raped by dogs? Only an idiot too biased about which side they support would give that any credence whatsoever. The fact that you've cited UNRWA and other even more blatantly biased and equally unbelievable partisans makes you look like a credulous dupe. And…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 07:33 PM
9

What has happened to bring on this change?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 09:47 AM
1

I've been banned from a bunch of subreddits but never for any reason other than bad faith mods abusing their authority, the same as OP here. From /r/soccer to /r/LegalAdviceUK as well as the usual suspects like /r/offmychest and /r/interestingasfuck too. Too many of the sorts of people who seek mod roles (or, worse, admin roles) are the sorts of fascists who should be kept away from any and all authority because they aren't capable of not taking advantage of it to censor those who hold different…
/r/MensRights28/05/24 05:15 PM
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Only someone "absurd" would be incapable of understanding the difference between a harsh punishment being a disincentive to commit a crime in the first place being a very different thing from a harsh punishment being a disincentive to admit to a crime that has already been committed. EDIT: u/eldred2 wrote: Hey, the punishment could prevent false accusations too. How is that "absurd"? Because the false accusation has already happened.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 11:01 PM
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No, you've completely misunderstood the point and your counter-example has no relevance. The point is that it is better that 100 guilty people go free than 1 innocent person be wrongly imprisoned. If you are more interested in punishing the wrongdoer in this scenario than protecting the rights of the falsely accused then you are behaving exactly like a feminist rather than someone who cares about men's rights.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 10:16 PM
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Whilst she deserves that, if that was the punishment there is no way she'd have admitted the truth and would instead likely have stuck with her lie, which would be far worse for the innocent guy as there would always be many people that'd believe her no matter how obvious the lie is.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 08:11 PM
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I've never understood why the idea of family is so hated in the modern world. Feminism argued that the nuclear family was oppressive to women and agitated for its abolition through manipulation of everything from the courts to public opinion. That all said, I can't help but think they wanted so badly to be treated like men, well now they are being treated like men. They are really not though because unlike men they are treated with sympathy and compassion when they face the consequences of their…
/r/MensRights20/05/24 06:03 PM
10

What feminism gave her is a choice which generations prior didn't have and choosing means taking accountability even if you end up choosing wrong. Feminism didn't give a choice at all, it made it a necessary condition for two incomes to provide the lifestyle that previously one was sufficient for, by flooding the labor pool. It priced women out of marriage and having children within the healthy ideal unit by making the education system so anti-male that women outperform men at every level. And i…
/r/MensRights20/05/24 05:49 PM
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Yes. And affirmative action is just discrimination.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 04:59 PM
42

/u/Knirb_ is saying that DEI is the reason women are getting a better deal in academia. This is 100% correct.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 04:54 PM
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Diversity, equity, and inclusion
/r/MensRights19/05/24 04:44 PM
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"Small man syndrome", regardless of what is intended by the user of the term, is actually the same behavior as anyone else judged differently because of who is engaging in it. It says nothing about small men but a lot about the person using it, especially as even if the intent mattered it still stems entirely from a response to societal prejudice against an intractable condition that would rightly be unacceptable if used against any other intractable condition from disability to race.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 10:38 AM
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Your first point is semantic. Women work less for their employers when they have kids and so earn less. Keeping a home is not paid work and no one owes anyone pay for doing it unless they have a contract to pay them for it. Emotional labor is done more by men than women in relationships and if it is not then the relationship fails as the woman seeks out a partner who will provide more emotional labor than her. Many adults enjoy socializing with little kids, but it is so obvious that I was referr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:38 PM
2

No it’s not. It cost money to provide childcare. It does. That money is provided through opportunity cost or volunteering which are subsidized by the breadwinner, unless it is outsourced in which case it is paid for directly. My point is when women take time of work to provide care for their kids they are still working they just aren’t getting paid directly for the work. Get it? They have no contract, they have no employer, they are not 'working', they are keeping their household. Okay so you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:08 AM
1

This is brilliant and an absolute manifestation of a conversation I was having in another thread in this subreddit. This is exactly what was responsible for her believing that her emotional interpretation of matters was correct and that the actual facts were not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:49 PM
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The point was that someone has to do it and women do it for “free”. It makes as much sense as saying a vacation that someone else pays for you to take is you doing free work. That’s not what the study showed. Both men and women judged women’s spaces more harshly. Because everything men as a group do (because of their innate out-group bias) do is about supporting women's interests and women judge each other about that sort of thing. That is absolute not true. If it weren't true then there would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:13 PM
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Thanks for engaging in good faith. I'll try to address each of your points in turn. Caring for a baby isn’t working less hard It absolutely is so far as the employer who pays them is concerned. Sure but that’s because men won’t do it [housework] and women are judged more harshly for not doing it. Women are judged more harshly by other women because women care more about this than men. Huh? [emotional labor] Emotional labor - the support and care provided by a partner - is something men do far mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:28 PM
5

That's about the level of intellectual response I'd expect from those who disagree with the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:15 PM
7

From the study abstract: "Reported victimization and perpetration prevalence rates vary depending on the sample and question phrasing." The authors chose meanings to achieve the result they wanted rather than looking objectively at data.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 10:27 AM
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Every single one of the points made in this post is incorrect, meaning the premise is very deeply flawed. The supposed fatherhood penalty is men working harder due to their increased responsibilities. The supposed motherhood penalty is women working less hard due to their alternate priorities. Men gain clout and social status just from the presence of a woman because women are inherently valued whereas men are only valued for what they provide and having plenty of women around marks them as a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:21 AM
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http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/573
/r/MensRights28/04/24 09:26 AM
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This proves that feminists actually don't hate men. It really doesn't though. Just reading the abstract reveals a plethora of inaccurate assumptions that have influenced data interpretation and how bias has influenced both thinking about the studies assessed and the conclusion from doing so. Determining from this that feminists don't hate men is for all intents and purposes the moral equivalent of determining that parents who abuse their children don't hate children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:23 PM
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This has been the case since The Long March Through The Institutions was completed during the early 1990s. It is insane that more than 30 years later it still isn't universally acknowledged.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 10:59 AM
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The original author of this quote was the Godfather of the men's rights movement, AngryHarry.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/04/24 08:21 PM
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When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/04/24 07:28 PM
16

He's The Man.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 06:24 PM
7

I remember when this was originally posted a couple of years ago. User was pretty quickly suspended for their sexism IIRC.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/04/24 01:52 PM
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Not sure what you were expecting, but the sort of people who hold those kinds of views are neither rational nor reasonable. And the facts contradict their world view so they have to ban you to avoid experiencing cognitive dissonance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 10:46 PM
2

Have to say I have not seen a great deal of bad faith there, just a lot of genuinely mistaken belief about what the other side supposedly believes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 10:42 PM
2

Considering red pillers' disdain for women Red Pill adherents do not have disdain for women, they believe that women are coddled by society to the extent that they lack accountability for their actions because they are so insulated from the consequences of them. This is disdain for societal preference for women from both sexes and how it manifests in practice aka The Women Are Wonderful Effect/Male-outgroup-bias-female-ingroup-bias. it seems counterintuitive to seek advice from individuals who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:05 PM
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isn't it better to talk about solutions and hoe to survive than to cry about it ? Before anything can be done about it, society needs to acknowledge the problem exists, and as is amply demonstrated in the comments section over there, there are massive amounts of denial. This kind of awareness raising is an essential component of finding solutions. society, media and corporations have been anti men since the 60s revolution but you all know that this isn't gonna change. Things are changing though,…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 04:09 PM
8

Ignorance, hypocrisy and lack of empathy.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 03:58 PM
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The only thing preventing gender relations is ideologues being unwilling to acknowledge the pro-female bias exhibited innately by both sexes. Activists since the late 60s have been undertaking The Long March Through The Institutions, aimed at ensuring their agenda is still being pushed as mainstream regardless of not being able to get it promoted via the ballot box. As a result they've entrenched systems that only promote those who adhere to goodthink and those systems now operate as successful …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:07 PM
3

Ace Ventura's realizes that Lois Einhorn and Ray Finkle are both losers, and whilst there are issues with that, at the time the realization is made and before that, Ace still thinks of Lois Einhorn as a loser.
/r/MensRights21/03/24 06:12 PM
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It makes every interaction between the sexes with any interest from the male a case of Schroedinger's sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 06:14 PM
2

There is a reason there is no male equivalent phrase for "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".
/r/EverydayMisandry07/03/24 06:54 PM
2

Clint Eastwood in The Rookie.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/03/24 07:05 PM
6

“women’s biggest fear is not getting raped, mine is wi-fi” "Women care about their safety more than men" FTFY. Daniel Sloss and other unthinking plebeians don't understand the difference between which sex faces the greater risk to their physical safety versus which sex cares more about their physical safety. Such moronic thinking wouldn't be worth dignifying with a response if it weren't so prevalent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/24 07:17 PM
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Why do women get upset that men watch porn? Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:59 AM
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*Pareto principle
/r/MensRights29/02/24 10:11 AM
4

She is delusional and incapable of reason. You are dating a zealot who sees you as belonging to the oppressor class she hates. Her bigotry will prevent the relationship from ever being worthwhile. Your options are to try to get her to overcome her brainwashing, which will be hard as she doesn't want to experience cognitive dissonance, or to leave and find someone more suitable. Only you can decide which of these two choices is right for you, but there are no other choices.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/24 07:03 PM
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It isn't a matter of agreement, it is a matter of understanding. Extrapolating from that understanding is what you've highlighted above as being what The Red Pill supposedly is. Some people do make that mistake, but fairness is essentially irrelevant. What matters is what actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:15 AM
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I'm stunned you weren't instabanned! Not sure it is true that any users here have gone there at all, let alone harassed anyone (this seems like projection TBH), but I 100% believe they don't want anyone directed here and would brigade if they thought they could get away with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 10:29 PM
3

The explanation is more for those reading this who want to understand what is being discussed rather than those who made up their mind without the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:20 PM
8

The Red Pill is literally what works for men in terms of attaining female attraction. If a guy is "undateable", he is not Red Pilled - because he is exhibiting behavior that makes him unappealing to women. Not being a great person is not Red Pilled. Blaming women for your lack of success is not Red Pilled. Not being able to find dates is not Red Pilled. Not having looked inwards to solve your problems is not Red Pilled. I hope the irony is not lost on you that every single thing that you think o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:28 PM
1

"I can't see the trees, this forest is in the way!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:19 PM
0

Exactly. These "failure" guys cease to be failures once they change the behaviors that were preventing their success. Once they do that women do date them, but not until they adhere to the thinking of Tate and his ilk. And women don't date them when they disagree with Tate because as you rightly point out they see them as failures before they turned to The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:18 PM
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Women as a group are far picker than men about interracial relationships, whether their partner is bisexual, and stuff like that than men are. It's ironic that they don't see themselves a group exhibiting these supposed far right ideals of Anti-miscegenation and homophobia far more than the guys the criticize who may be more vocal but exhibit far less in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:52 PM
3

Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:48 PM
9

what red pill ideology actually IS Red Pill isn't an ideology, it is simply acknowledging the difference between what women as a group behave as if they are attracted to as opposed to what they say as a group they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:42 PM
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The late, great Angryharry said of this issue that: Female sexual harassment of men is like junk mail that you can't prevent from being sent to you, or advertising you are exposed to wherever you go. It is pervasive, deniable should they wish it to be and totally unstoppable.
/r/MensRights22/02/24 08:31 PM
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The tax gap, the benefits gap, the spending gap, the hours worked gap, the death in service gap, the healthcare spending gap (excluding pregnancy - which makes it even more extreme), the sentencing gap, the life expectancy gap, the likelihood of being a victim of violence/crime gap, the preferential scholarships, quotas, hiring, etc. Is there any meaningful quality of life metric that doesn't benefit women at men's expense?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/24 10:39 PM
5

it seems that I am shadow banned site wide Appearing clearly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:03 PM
5

Based on your update elsewhere in this thread, you should totally get a male friend to give you a peck on the lips next time you are at work and hint or even state that you are homosexual to protect yourself.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 12:17 PM
6

Couldn't agree with you more on that point.
/r/MensRights23/01/24 06:07 PM
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Why? A fool and their money are soon parted. I hope the suckers don't get their money back and instead learn from the experience not to be so gullible in future.
/r/MensRights23/01/24 05:47 PM
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You are not responsible for someone elses decision anymore than you would be responsible for murder if someone took your car without your consent and had an accident killing someone.
/r/MensRights23/01/24 05:01 PM
14

you also need to think about baby Why?
/r/MensRights23/01/24 04:49 PM
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I live in a country where fathers are not legally bound or required to pay any form of child support for children born out of wedlock. Oh, man, I'm goin', that's all there is to it. I'm fuckin' goin'.
/r/MensRights23/01/24 04:48 PM
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Couldnt of have said it better. 👏
/r/MensRights19/01/24 05:44 PM
2

Clearly genuinely believes what she says to the point of being over-emotional about it, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with making money from doing what you believe in, or, indeed, in doing stuff you don't like for that matter (there is a reason it is called 'work', after all).
/r/MensRights14/01/24 12:42 PM
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Sounds like there is a story there, TinMan. What the hell happened?
/r/MensRights14/01/24 12:39 PM
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You’re clearly a guy who’s very inexperienced with sex if that’s what you think. Lol! Ask any woman on this sub and see if they agree with you. Go on, I’ll wait. Whether they agree or not has no bearing on this being true or not. The reality remains that most women seeking one night stands prefer guys who are selfish and inconsiderate lovers and with no irony whatsoever it is easy to identify such men because they are those who tend to be picked for one night stands and as a result have no incen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:21 PM
1

I cannot imagine being so dense that you'd ever be able to imagine the answer wasn't anything other than obvious. For those who lack the wit to figure it out for themselves, it is obvious whether a potential partner will put in the effort or not through making an informed judgement based on the evidence gathered beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:06 PM
1

It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experience That's 100% women's fault because of who they pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:12 PM
1

Yes, you were the asshole.
/r/MensRights02/01/24 02:43 PM
8

Stupidity of this argument aside, it is akin to saying if a woman achieved an orgasm during rape that denotes consent. Suffice to say one can be aroused without wishing to have sex with the person one is with at that moment and that any sex without consent is rape regardless of the sexes of the parties involved.
/r/MensRights31/12/23 03:25 PM
2

It does, because otherwise she would not have been nominated. That's just how the system works. No one would be nominating her for her work to support women because she hasn't done it for five decades, as I've explained elsewhere in this thread.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 10:22 PM
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Just because they are aware of her pro male advocacy, doesn’t mean that’s the main reason she’s being recognized. Yes, it means exactly that. No one would nominate her for her work to help women because she's been helping men for 50 years and very vocal about the amount of help women already got in relation to men. Which is precisely why the nomination for honours is necessarily for her work to help men regardless of the excuses about her setting up the world's first women's refuge. That is just…
/r/MensRights30/12/23 10:15 PM
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Yet her award last year was based largely on her past advocacy for women I think you are mixing up the excuse and the reason. The way the system works is that candidates for honours are nominated in a given year. If Pizzey was nominated this year or last year it will have been by individuals who will be aware that she has campaigned against feminism for the past five decades, regardless of how politically correct the justification to nominate her actually appears when submitted.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 09:58 PM
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It didn't say it anywhere but that isn't how the honours system works in the UK. She will have to have been nominated in the current year by someone and anyone doing so will know she turned her back on feminism over half a century ago.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 04:34 PM
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It is for her advocacy for men, she's been an antifeminist for over 50 years and has been advocating for men all that time.
/r/MensRights30/12/23 04:27 PM
24

This sub absolutely is right wing and that is a good thing. People who think right wing means "bad" are idiots. The left wing men's rights sub is r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates - although there isn't a great deal of distinction between the two on most issues under discussion.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 11:22 AM
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It's Capitalism The shoehorning of agenda politics into previously successful franchises is the antithesis of capitalism, literally the polar opposite.
/r/MensRights14/11/23 07:21 PM
4

You haven't communicated that you are upset clearly to her and are expecting her to read your mind. She thinks of your interactions as good natured ribbing, not hurtful. If you don't let her know they upset you she will keep on doing them as friendly banter.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 09:12 AM
22

You accidentally slipped a "1" in the percentage figure above that didn't need to be there.
/r/MensRights19/10/23 09:46 PM
2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9J5ehCOBM Hyperbole is a thing, but the point is a perfectly valid one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:46 AM
6

Perhaps in the early 1970s this might have been a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:17 PM
27

When you're used to privilege, actual equality feels like oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:15 PM
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It's not just two years, it is an entire career gone - you think he'd be able to teach after this even if he still wanted to? Plus the reputation, emotional, psychological, family and friendship damage as well as the ongoing "there's no smoke without fire" thinking from others going forwards in life? £450k would be completely inadequate.
/r/MensRights18/10/23 11:06 AM
1

/u/LowAd3406 is right about the purpose of dating being to find someone who won't behave like this, but people choose poorly and that's why the divorce rate is so high - men marrying women for reasons other than their suitability as a life partner. Sure, some women change and the menopause can make people crazy, but the majority of divorces are pre-menopause and a result of poor partner choice by the man in the first place, either because she fooled him or he fooled himself as to her true nature…
/r/MensRights18/10/23 10:10 AM
3

Affirmative action is a countermeasure to previous discrimination. No, it is current discrimination.
/r/MensRights14/10/23 08:55 PM
2

Board level diversity is hugely important and even non-executive directorships, where the role used to be about getting in competent people with experience and knowledge unavailable within the organisation, are now virtually solely about DEI representation. You obviously aren't at board level yourself or you'd know this.
/r/MensRights14/10/23 08:54 PM
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Why do you think that it is false?
/r/MensRights14/10/23 08:51 PM
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Many job applications have a requirement to to complete a diversity questionnaire that includes things like race, gender, sexuality, age, religion, disabilities, etc. Officially this is so that HR can monitor recruitment practices to ensure no discrimination. Unofficially it enables diversity quotas to be filled and bragged about in corporate literature.
/r/MensRights14/10/23 08:42 PM
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The courts have very different legal standards to the university kangaroo system that assumes guilt and doesn't allow exculpatory evidence. And that's without getting into successful appeals, etc. As always, it depends on what you can prove with the evidence but it is absolutely worth investigating if you have a case if you have been wrongfully held accountable for something you didn't do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/23 02:30 PM
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It happened to the content creator in the video OP posted too, you shouldn't be downvoted for saying this happens to women too, especially as it appears to be used as a tool against women who support men because they support men.
/r/MensRights13/10/23 04:41 PM
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Im from Afghanistan and I’ve heard rumours that some of the foreigners also raped a few of the villagers That is almost certainly made up to build hostility towards foreigners as there would be neither opportunity nor motive for foreign troops stationed there to do this when the reprisals for doing so would be so extreme from both sides towards them.
/r/MensRights09/10/23 05:30 PM
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Yeah, they have problems which definitely outweigh ours That's just it, they don't though. Suicide, homelessness, likelihood of experiencing every level of violence, likelihood of experiencing crime, educational attainment, hours worked, the spending gap, the tax gap, the benefit gap, life expectancy, etc. men's problems outweigh those of women in virtually every quality of life measurement. What little information about the struggles of men in the powerpoint was quickly swept over by the teache…
/r/MensRights05/10/23 09:11 PM
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https://avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/ten-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/23 09:15 AM
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This speaks to how seriously each sex takes the idea of risk to themselves. Women take a tiny chance of physical harm incredibly seriously because although the risk is negligible, it is the only risk they face and so the one they focus on. Men are far more likely to experience a false accusation that destroys their life (like the Mattress Girl thing) than a woman is to experience any physical harm (let alone be murdered) or emotional harm, but men don't focus on that because a far more likely ri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/23 08:53 PM
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And the money that would have gone to the kids instead goes to lawyers.
/r/MensRights21/09/23 06:44 PM
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So 55% of donations to non-Republican candidates? And if you don't think CNN toes a feminist line, I've got a bridge to sell you in London. Oh, and advertisers support feminism as well.
/r/MensRights20/09/23 10:58 PM
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You are the one insane if you don't think that those who control the media, as well as those who work in it, all follow the feminist line. But then you are sexist if you think the gender of those who own the media matters more than what they believe.
/r/MensRights20/09/23 10:23 PM
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Where'd they get the 2% and 10% from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape#Estimates_of_prevalence
/r/MensRights20/09/23 11:31 AM
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We have an idea what the rate is, we just don't know with absolute certainty.
/r/MensRights20/09/23 11:30 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape#Estimates_of_prevalence
/r/MensRights20/09/23 11:28 AM
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It's actually 1%-1.6% of reported rapes that result in a conviction in the UK at least and this figure doesn't take into account those who were wrongly convicted and later exonerated either on appeal because of confession or DNA evidence. Essentially when feminists argue "Only 2% of rape accusations are false!" what they are actually arguing is "False rape accusations occur approximately two to five times as frequently as actual rapes!" according to how they are using the statistics they are cit…
/r/MensRights20/09/23 11:25 AM
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https://avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/ten-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common/
/r/MensRights20/09/23 11:21 AM
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Use this > symbol at the start of the line you want to quote... ...and it will look like this.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 10:06 AM
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That can make you even more of a target.
/r/MensRights10/09/23 06:03 PM
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It doesn't exonerate though, it merely casts aspersion on the accusations. Revealing it to the prosecution before trial means they can try and get it excluded or otherwise strategise so that what should have been virtually exculpatory is either inadmissible or otherwise negated in terms of impact.
/r/MensRights10/09/23 05:59 PM
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Quote a source that’s not Fox News or take your weak ass “it’s the libs” BS and piss off back to your moms basement. https://avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/ten-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common/
/r/MensRights30/08/23 04:58 PM
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No crime was committed here. Certainly not rape.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/08/23 06:00 PM
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And many won't be suspicious who ought to be.
/r/MensRights13/08/23 05:15 PM
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Why are men greedy? So they can provide for women. Why are women not greedy? Because they have men to provide for them so don't need to be greedy themselves, they just seek out the best provider they can obtain the services of. Even on a biased bit of research like this the anti-male ideology underpinning the thinking behind the conclusion that reveals the shortfalls in the authors critical thinking abilities. Men sacrifice far more than women to obtain resources that they give to others. That t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/23 07:07 PM
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It is called The Long March Through The Institutions. Read the book, or at least the wiki.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 11:12 PM
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I feel like just talking to the police and explain everything. Never talk to the police.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/23 10:05 AM
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For those interested in learning more about this subject I'd recommend reading this: https://avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/ten-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common/ As well as this: https://avoiceformen.com/featured/13-women-who-lied-about-being-raped-and-why-they-did-it/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/23 05:12 PM
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This presentation is a great way to open people's eyes to how reality differs from the narrative they are taught, and to start a constructive dialogue.
/r/MensRights20/07/23 04:19 PM
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"I did absolutely zero research into what I was doing and discovered the grass isn't at all greener like my faith-based beliefs assured me it was!" There is no patriarchy, toxic masculinity is actually male sacrifice of men's interests for female interests, and no, no-one cares that you've lost the privilege you were too naive to realise you had. Welcome to the equality that you made happen.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 08:12 PM
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This is only funny because it hits so close to home.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/23 05:57 PM
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That 20,30 odd women just made it all up? Mandela Effect.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 05:12 PM
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Obviously they don't know history or they wouldn't be saying such things. We should educate them about the difference between the quirks of managing inheritance through lineage through coverture (i.e. what patriarchy actually is as opposed to how they wrongly imagine it to be) and what this meant for women not being liable for debts they incurred and crimes they committed, as opposed to non-personhood in reality.
/r/MensRights17/07/23 02:59 PM
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If you read the article, it just say how a “rapist” walked free. Disgusting. What? Why? She did walk free.
/r/MensRights15/07/23 09:44 PM
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There is no suggestion to my knowledge that the women were lying. I've not been following this case closely, but my understanding is that the accusers were a group of escorts who worked together and concocted the story in an attempt to fleece Mendy of more money.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:23 PM
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I wouldn't say that men's rights is welcoming of "men" any more than it is welcoming of everyone. Anyone who cares about equal rights, fairness and justice is welcome with many women having prominent voices and support here.
/r/MensRights05/07/23 02:40 PM
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Good bot.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 05:06 PM
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Even though he is 100% correct, unfortunately I cannot imagine there won't be further negative repercussions for him for admitting this politically inconvenient truth publicly.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 05:05 PM
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How anyone can watch this and lack the social skills to understand that the white knight who took him down isn't just evil incarnate but also completely proving the point the guy is making is beyond me.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 03:34 PM
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Norah Vincent (RIP) kind of did the opposite. If you haven't read her book "Self Made Man" I would recommend it.
/r/MensRights12/06/23 02:04 PM
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It is bad faith, as is your first paragraph in the post you just made as I'm not acting that way at all. And, no, the costs are not high for women when committing to a relationship, the costs are high when choosing poorly who to commit to a relationship to. But here we are talking about ending a relationship. The costs for women are far lower for women unless she has bagged an exceptional guy - and if he was so exceptional then she wouldn't want to end things anyway. Your third paragraph above a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:32 PM
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This kind of bad faith question, that reminds me of Cathy Newman interviewing Jordan Peterson, doesn't really warrant an answer. However, for the sake of unambiguity - no, that is not remotely what I am saying. What I am saying is that when the costs for something for two parties are different, they will have different attitudes towards that thing. Ignoring this, as OP does, is what leads to poorly considered opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:04 PM
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Your premise is flawed. Women choose partners, men make themselves available for selection as partners. Obtaining sex is far harder for men than for women, the consequences of turning it down because of distrust about the partners birth control decisions make it significantly more costly to do. Same regarding men who've been mistreated, it is far harder for a man to obtain a relationship than it is for a woman. The consequences of rejecting a relationship with someone showing red flags for abusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:33 PM
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I never hear any women say anything about fat men. That's because fat men are invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:29 PM
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No man ever has that as a significant consideration for why they want a low N count woman, and if they think they do then they are in denial about why they really want a low N count woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:45 AM
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/Note to self, make sure you buy an Android phone to filter out these crazies
/r/MensRights04/06/23 09:07 AM
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A woman can almost ALWAYS find a better option within a couple of months of trying, so why would they settle? Because this is only the case until it isn't any more. By the time she turns 30 "All the good ones are taken". There comes a time when the guys she is interested in are no longer on the market and she either has to be a side piece, settle for a guy she'd previously have rejected, or by a cougar for single, younger guys. That is a situation most women don't want to face. That's why they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:49 PM
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Yet if you gave up job security and financial privilege to become a struggling artist, or even wanted to be a stay at home parent...
/r/MensRights03/06/23 06:24 PM
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Ah yes... "its not sexist if its true." If you believe that women resolve conflict by lying and spreading rumors to hurt another people's social connections then feel free to substantiate that. I cited an extremely well known book, the findings of which are not and have never been in dispute, because it is universally agreed upon by researchers that this is indeed true. Considering that there are countries where women are still economically dependent on men and have practically no political repr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 09:00 AM
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It was never a thing, as demonstrated by how the NOW treated Warren Farrell when he tried to push for it. And whilst there are some self-labelled feminists that do believe in actual equal rights, none of them have any authority, power, control, influence or status within the feminist movement. It isn't applying the actions of the worst members to the whole that results in feminism being disdained, it is the actions of the leaders and icons over a period of decades.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 10:10 PM
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Women resort to social destruction to resolve interpersonal conflicts, this manifests as spreading rumors or lies to hurt the other person's social connections Have you read Queen Bees And Wannabees? This comment is not misogynistic, it is an accurate reflection of the different strategies the different sexes use to address social conflicts. minimization of their struggles Comparing two things and finding that one is minimal in relation to the other is not minimising one, it is an accurate refle…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 10:07 PM
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I didn't say that it was or was not stripping rights away from women though, I said that it was not a campaign against women because it still grants women greater reproductive rights than men. I'm not sure if you were aware you were making a straw man or not but as it is an emotive topic I'm prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you simply misunderstood that it isn't an adequate example of what you are arguing as well as why it isn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 03:53 PM
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I addressed this exact issue in my post and explained why this is not something that can be taken seriously as a campaign against women when it doesn't even level the playing field for women and men when it comes to reproductive rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 03:31 PM
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Fuck your sister Don't.
/r/MensRights02/06/23 03:22 PM
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there are still unfinished campaigns against the oppression of women and girls in our society. I think that whilst most people would agree with the rest of your post, this line stands out as something most would dispute. Perhaps you could provide a few examples so that people can see what you mean by this? Otherwise most people will assume you mean things like abortion restrictions (which still provide women more rights than men) or the wage gap (which is actually a choice & earnings gap and whe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 03:13 PM
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Fathers only apply for custody if they have a cast-iron guarantee that they should get custody because otherwise they know they won't get it and it will be a waste of money. Most fathers would want a fair and equitable custody arrangement for 50/50 with only very few wanting less. They tend to only ask for more when they have proof of the children being unsafe with the mother and even then they do not always get full custody because of innate biases in the judiciary and the system that assume fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 10:25 AM
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No sane or objective person thinks this is a hate sub, only those projecting their own hate onto others could do that.
/r/MensRights31/05/23 12:54 PM
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Have to be stupid to not at an absolute minimum check out the social media of anyone you trust to look after your infant.
/r/AntiFeminists30/05/23 03:30 PM
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Red Pill is just knowledge of how attraction works. It doesn't guarantee an ability to successfully apply that knowledge, plenty of people can understand something but not be able to do it, from mathematical calculations to art. But it is not possible to be successful in terms of obtaining casual sex or successful long-term relationships as a man without applying The Red Pill, whether you realise this is what you are doing or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:57 PM
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Care to provide a few links to examples?
/r/MensRights23/05/23 09:38 PM
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It is seen as getting the result by cheating if you had to put any effort into it. If it isn't "natural" occurring then it is slipping through the net when it should have been weeded out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:43 PM
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have a ...?
/r/MensRights10/05/23 12:20 PM
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Yeah!
/r/MensRights10/05/23 12:18 PM
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I'm not sure now if you're pretending to be an idiot or not, but I made it overwhelmingly clear above that the rape conviction rate is too high because it puts so many innocent people in jail already as demonstrated by successful appeals and The Innocence Project. I want to make it harder to put innocent people in jail. Calling innocent people "rapists" doesn't make them rapists, so you don't have an argument beyond "Put more innocent people in jail!" whether you realise this is your argument or…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 11:35 AM
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Other crimes have conviction rates around 88% Like what? Burglary? Assault? Murder? Theft? none have anything approaching 88% Everyone wants rapists in jail so arguing not to try and put more rapists in jail is strange. You aren't arguing about putting rapists in jail though, you are arguing about putting people accused of raping someone in jail regardless of whether or not they did what they are accused of. Pretending, as you are, that it is about putting rapists in jail is bad faith and dising…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 11:02 AM
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Radical feminists don’t have enough power to oppress men. They have more than enough indirect power which is how and why it is happening in everything from prison sentencing to recruitment practices. They have influenced, controlled and shaped the social narrative that results in these discriminatory matters. They can’t even keep access to abortions in America A single hot-button issue the religious radicals are fighting back against, after having lost their battle on this for generations prior.…
/r/MensRights23/04/23 12:55 PM
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This is a great find, UnHope20. Thanks for posting.
/r/Male_Studies02/04/23 10:00 PM
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If women just started doing what we did they'd get paid more. It's not that simple. Firstly women and men are perceived differently when behaving the same way by both men and women. Women need to play to their strengths in order to get ahead, not to men's strengths. the two sexes are fundamentally different and what works for one doesn't work for the other and vice versa. Also, women don't have the same drive that men do to earn more. They don't risk missing out on love if they don't earn enough…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 09:58 PM
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Non-biologically related adult males in mother only households are the most likely persons to harm children i.e. the mother's new partner. This is not the same as mother's committing the harm.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 07:52 PM
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Which happens more?
/r/MensRights01/03/23 03:35 PM
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We are where we are as a result of male disposability. "Women and children first" is what has got us this far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:27 PM
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Women as a class? What are you talking about? I'm talking about women as a class. Obviously. You can’t just take half the population and say they do or don’t care about something. It’s ridiculous. There’s no nuance to that and it’s not based in anything that is even factual. Of course you can. It is called a generalization and it is so demonstrably and obviously true not just now but throughout history that it isn't possible to argue as you are doing in good faith even from a position of extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:32 PM
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Individual women love individual men. Women as a class do not love men as a class.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:06 PM
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You've hit the nail on the head, the definition of The Red Pill is objective but people have subjective interpretations (and opinions) about it. What you are describing from Rollo Tomassi is a number of specific phenomenon identified within The Red Pill that aren't actually The Red Pill itself at all. The "Cock Carousel" is the aspect of women sleeping around during their 'prime' years. This is attributed to seeking out sexually and physically attractive men who are unsuitable as providers for p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/23 10:09 PM
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The Red Pill isn't subjective, it is objective. Some Red Pill adherents are subjective. And the only definition of The Red Pill that is correct is the one that refers to how female sexual attraction and mate choice works in practice. Every other definition is incorrect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/23 08:22 PM
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gynocentrism? The concept behind everything from "Women and children first!" at the lifeboats to the UN measuring sexism by classing areas men are ahead in as sexist and areas women are ahead in as not sexist. Or, perhaps most importantly, it being so politically incorrect to identify societal female privilege.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/23 08:20 PM
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"redpill" has come to mean a very wide variety of things. Not really. It is either used correctly or incorrectly and incorrect usage is still wrong just as using "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less" is wrong. it always includes some perspective through which to interpret reality that is very specific to it. People do, but the theory isn't a value theory. Aspects like evolutionary biology/psychology are about explaining why our innate drives are as they are, not saying what they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/23 08:16 PM
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What you are referring to is the concept of hypergamy and whilst it is true that homo sapiens are a hypergamous species this isn't something wretched, scary or repulsive about women. Your cultural values shape how you interpret hypergamy though and once you understand the issue is with your cultural values rather than anything inherently wrong with innate drives to seek out a good father for her offspring you'll cease to hold the wrong-headed ideas you do about this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/23 08:12 PM
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Systems of oppression are large scale problems They don't exist and are entirely fictitious, excuses to protect the ego of those less successful. Even if something is one way on paper it is not always reflective of society on a macro level How right you are as we see preferential treatment for women in the courts, the workplace, every sphere of life. It’s not just women btw. Search up intersectionality wheel. The totem of oppression is an inverse of societal expectations and cushioning with thos…
/r/MensRights09/01/23 10:50 AM
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Which is why one of the first questions asked on them is so frequently about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:23 PM
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You forgot height, that's used as a filter on all the dating apps far more than any other physical attribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 04:45 PM
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This is an entirely inaccurate article that ignores reality: According to The Journal, this difference can largely be attributed to ticket sales. The USSF sells broadcast and sponsorship rights for the men’s and women’s teams together, and as a result, it can be difficult to determine the exact broadcast value of the two teams. In reality both the US women's and men's were given the choice of performance related pay or guaranteed fee. Women chose guaranteed and men chose performance. Men got pai…
/r/MensRights26/12/22 04:32 PM
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It's really not at all hard; be sexual with those you have vetted to ensure they are in it for the long haul if you want to have a successful long-term relationship. If you don't, do what you want with who you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:43 PM
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Kramer V Kramer for its accurate portrayal of anti-father court bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/22 03:14 PM
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I would have preferred a shorter one. I see what you did there.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 02:26 PM
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He certainly looks like he's succeeded in purging it from his system.
/r/AntiFeminists06/12/22 10:44 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:19 PM
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This surely must be satire? No one could be so stupid as to say and mean something so utterly bereft of intelligence. It is literally insane to think this if they mean what they say.
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/22 01:37 PM
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Sorry to hear that you had to face that evil response on top of everything else you are going through. I'd recommend having your wife ask for help for you rather than you asking for yourself as the opposite of what the evil feminist said is true, no-one helps men but a woman asking for help is listened to and people act on it much more.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 04:28 PM
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Just so you are aware, Pizzey wasn't a researcher and didn't find "proof", she opened the first women's shelter for victims of domestic violence and found that the majority of those who sought her refuge had engaged in domestic violence themselves. She received bomb threats, death threats and her dog was actually killed by fanatics not wanting her to reveal this information, causing her to flee her home in Chiswick.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 08:48 PM
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Who, specifically, would you suggest is more eloquent?
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 01:10 PM
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That's projection on your part. She's popular because she is decent, erudite, reasoned, rational, fair-minded and communicates exceptionally well.
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 11:58 AM
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She is the most eloquent advocate of equality there is.
/r/AntiFeminists19/10/22 06:42 PM
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I used to think this was true just like you, OP. But it isn't. I'd suggest reading this quite thorough debunking of the issue: https://np.reddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/qnp5qh/the_claim_men_leave_their_sick_spouse_more_is/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:16 PM
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As a demographic women are not net contributors to tax, they are net beneficiaries. Only individual women are net contributors. The author seems not to realise this in their thinking.
/r/MensRights08/10/22 07:13 PM
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It is telling about how bad the previous position truly was that so many people are unhappy with women now having the same rights as men have always had.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 11:24 AM
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If you chose to have a child then that child is your responsibility even if the mother splits up with you and takes the child against your wishes. But what you should owe in terms of support should be based on what the government gives as support to those who do not have a father to provide it i.e. the minimum necessary, with anything beyond that requiring good will to encourage positive relations between the children and the parents. Obviously if the guy did not consent to fatherhood then he sh…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 06:30 PM
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There is no such thing as ex-redpill in reality. You can't unlearn knowledge. Once you know it you know it. All you can do is attach different value judgements to that which you know and that's what those in denial about redpill thinking are doing. It causes cognitive dissonance to them because of their beliefs so they straw man it and reject the straw man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/22 11:19 AM
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The only loonies are those who don't already realise this. But to explain it to the simpletons, only around 5% of rape accusations made make it to court. Of those only about half (2.5% of the total) result in a conviction. This includes wrongful convictions that are later overturned on appeal, as a result of recantation, DNA evidence, and things like The Innocence Project. We know that there was no evidence to convict in these cases because the wrong person was convicted. This happens in hundred…
/r/MensRights02/10/22 10:25 AM
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Firstly, the number of false accusations necessarily massively outweighs the number of actual rapes that occur (both M on F and F on M added together). Secondly, there is no injustice when a rapist is held accountable for their actions (except in the many cases where they are later shown to be innocent by DNA evidence, recantation, on appeal, or the work of groups like The Innocence Project) so nothing to be discussed. The way you look at this issue makes you a bad person and you should feel bad…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 02:16 PM
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what are these consequences? They are regarded as less of a catch and represent a greater risk of infidelity and divorce to their partners. why is it not the same for men who sleep around? I'm sure you are familiar with the key and lock analogy, suffice to say that there is a far lower correlation between men who slept around before settling down and marriage breakdown than there is with women. This just seems like another attempt to shame women for having sex. Lol! No. Guys still want to sleep …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:08 PM
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It is just another aspect of life that can and should be provisioned more effectively through the state than the individual, like healthcare, policing, or a military. Taxes should be increased to cover the cost of basic necessities for all children rather than forcing reluctant individuals to pay child support for children they did not consent to having.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 10:31 AM
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I have been blunt. To the point of patronization. And, no, I'm not delusional because you are projecting your own erroneous and exaggerated ideas onto me instead of what I'm actually saying. You are privileged in terms of ability to discard romantic relationships by virtue of your sex. What you choose to do with that is up to you. If you choose to remain in a bad area that's up to you. But there is literally nothing stopping you relocating elsewhere should you so wish other than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:57 AM
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The pseudointellectual rant in the "shattered" reply says otherwise. It was plain English, nothing anyone who speaks the language should struggle with. How? Explain how exactly I lack empathy. Again? Okay. Other people's upbringing and circumstances are not the same as yours. And by virtue of your sex you have an abundance mentality that all but a select few of the opposite sex do not have. You being accustomed to that has made it so that you are unable to understand that this isn't the case for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:50 PM
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I am speaking plainly. If you're not understanding what I'm saying that says a great deal about how little you grasp the obvious. You lack empathy. Until and unless you can remedy this you will remain incapable of grandstanding this issue (as it requires empathy to do so).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 07:11 PM
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are there any merits to dating an abusive meth-head or a gang member or a heroin addict? Have you forgotten the thread you are posting in? This happens all too often. Regardless, bad options are still better than no options. So, you don't have a real answer beyond this idea that I'm just a picky If that's you're understanding of what I wrote it is no wonder you are wrong about everything! Suffice to say the dynamics for the two sexes are different. I don't lack empathy; I just don't waste it on …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:31 PM
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It is a solid answer that if you have a plethora of options to choose from, rejecting one is not a matter of self control, especially compared to someone with few options. Your world view is one of ignorance regarding how easy it is to reject because it doesn't take account of the consequences of doing so for others. This lack of empathy is inherent in those too privileged to realise their own privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:53 PM
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Don't use Google unless you don't have any joy with Duckduckgo.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 12:33 PM
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Self-control is an abundance mentality? Don't be silly. The abundance mentality comes from your circumstances. Self control? No, the ease with which you can replace that which you are lacking influences your behavior. Any self control at all comes from that place of abundance mentality. You are like a kid who has never gone hungry congratulating themselves for rejecting fast food by comparing yourself to someone who is starving and doesn't know when they'll get their next meal who took that fast…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:24 AM
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I was raised to have self-control, so high sex drive isn't an excuse for stupid choices or stupid behavior. You were raised with abundance mentality. Not everyone has that. my mentally defective ass can avoid a string of shitty relationships So why do you think that isn't the case with so many others?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:26 PM
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Quantity does not equal quality though, and for a lot of guys they have to go where the opportunity is or get nothing at all. The different drives the two sexes have make it so those things cannot be equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:41 PM
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So you are saying women going for bad boys whilst lying about their n count is the equivalent of men doing, what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:15 PM
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I haven't. You are agreeing with me that men and women do not have an equivalent, because arousal is largely an insufficient condition for men to have their desires met, not so with women. Unless you are suggesting that the sexes achieve the same when it comes to having their sexual desires met?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:14 PM
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It's a contrast rather than an equivalent, but I see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 05:41 PM
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Except you're not, you are agreeing with me. You just don't seem to realise that is what you are doing because of your sarcasm. If you genuinely don't think you are agreeing with me then do feel free to chime in with why you think so many women do go for guys who treat them badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 05:40 PM
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So you're agreeing with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:52 PM
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So when they see women making choices they perceive to be bad It isn't a matter of perception though, it is objectively so if women are dating guys who disrespect them, beat them, cheat on them, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:48 PM
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I haven't, so what point are you trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:46 PM
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That makes no sense. What else explains why women go for bad guys? Men have no equivalent for women so it doesn't seem like projection at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:38 PM
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Furthermore this 50% figure does not include "baseless and inconclusive reports", nor reports where it cannot be conclusively proven that the complaint was made knowingly and maliciously.
/r/Male_Studies14/09/22 12:03 PM
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I just don't see a society with that many frustrated men being sustainable. Why would they just collectively accept such an unfair system? No one could be so stupid that they don't realise the options were accept or die, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:43 AM
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Damn that sucks. She was someone I hugely admired.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:50 PM
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They literally pay full salaries to union officials in the civil service who only perform union duties and don't do their civil service jobs.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 05:02 PM
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That's putting the cart before the horse. Men who have the prospect of their lives improving get married. Those who do not, do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:30 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/science/comments/wowxgi/women_tend_to_generate_more_novel_ideas_during/ This? ^
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:44 PM
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The "dual mating strategy" studies did not replicate What studies? Dual mating refers to types of attraction by women towards men, sexual and as a provider. Or the other guy yesterday who said that RP's definition of hypergamy was established science, and he cited the incel wiki. Hypergamy is a well established phenomenon. That someone used a source you dislike doesn't negate this in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:34 PM
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Something tells me your not a parent Only your bias tells you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:27 PM
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IIRC it was just under 3% of men get alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:21 PM
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Tsk, tsk Not sure what point you think you're making here, but men generally put up with far more than women when it comes to relationships even without the costs of divorce from alimony to legal fees, so much so that it takes a level or intolerable situation most women would never get close to in a relationship for a man to decide to end a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:19 AM
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Something this sub will never understand, childcare is exceptionally hard, particularly the early years, constant interruptions, constant noise, lack of sleep and very little free time. It isn't exceptionally hard at all. It is a pleasure, one that is a privilege to have. Pretending it is a noble sacrifice rather than a bestowed benefit is disingenuous. I’m not saying there are no bad mothers who abandon their babies but in my experience it’s usually the dads. Which makes perfect sense when you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:12 AM
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You're thinking about it through the prism of the bias of those who wrote the headline. The reality is often far different e.g. arguing for years, dead bedrooms, hen-pecked husbands, continually belittled, nothing is ever good enough, despite him working and being her carer, etc. until the entitlement just gets too much and he decides he's finally had enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:56 AM
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I suspect you may be right on gambling and drugs but it is well established that men do not engage in more cheating and violence than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:58 AM
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Women and men break up about every during dating. But with marriage women's rate of ending things increases. No they don't break up about evenly during dating. Women are even more likely to initiate break up in dating than they are in divorce. And single women report happier, healthier lives. They might say that, but it obviously (and necessarily) isn't (and can't be) true. Could it be that men are more likely to get comfortable amd not invest in the family they created? No. Could it be men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:55 AM
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isn’t murder the most common way a pregnant American women will die? RTA, but both that and murder are rare too. A lot of these women in domestic violence situations also admit their partner wasn’t abusive until he got her trapped with marriage and kids. Child support laws mean she can get all of the financial benefits from the guy without any of the relationship if she so wishes. The "Sleeping With The Enemy" stereotype simply isn't how 99.9% of relationships involving IPV function. I can assur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:49 AM
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Absolutely really. If you think otherwise then you've not understood the subject matter and are falling prey to the exact phenomena I'm describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:24 AM
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It's not a thing though, it is a biased expectation that gets exaggerated because it fits a narrative. Colloquial anecdotes are contradicted by the data, as per the study referenced being withdrawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:23 AM
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I read that domestic violence increases for pregnant women by 30% (in the uk) Intimate partner violence against pregnant women is taboo and extremely rare (massively falling, not rising at all even in already violent relationships), not least of all because women involved with violent men often leave those men when they get pregnant as they reprioritize. I know a handful of couples where the dad just up n left either right before the baby was born or right after. TBF that's virtually always if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:21 AM
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You'd be wrong though. What makes RP data RP is its replicability, that is what the entire ethos is about. If it doesn't work in practice then it is disregarded as at best irrelevant. It isn't pushing an agenda, it is the absence of an agenda. I appreciate that this is hard to grasp for someone who cannot imagine pushing their agenda and that even some RPers struggle with the concept in practice, but RP at its essence is the removal of agenda-driven data from the equation so that whatever is lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:14 AM
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but it is a very, very small number of accusations. No it isn't. It is certainly massively more than the number of actual rapes. Would you say "Nobody denies rape happens, but it is a very, very small number of victims"?
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 09:17 AM
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still why his step sister lied tho ? I don’t get it https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/12/13-women-who-lied-about-being-raped-and-why-they-did-it/
/r/AntiFeminists11/08/22 09:16 AM
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https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/12/13-women-who-lied-about-being-raped-and-why-they-did-it/
/r/MensRights09/08/22 10:20 PM
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The Long March Through The Institutions started with infiltration, then became injection, and now is the default for recruitment and promotion criteria.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:35 PM
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Women spend around 85% of all money. When they lose access to a their husband's full salary following a divorce their disposable income is necessarily reduced. Many still get alimony and/or child support to keep them in the lifestyle they've become accustomed to, but even so it is always less than having full access to the breadwinners resources. Hence the statement being technically true that women lose out more than men in divorce whilst simultaneously being disingenuous and misleading.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:10 PM
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I didn't say it did, but surely even you can see the parallel where criticism is seen as a rejection of them as a person regardless of whether it be in terms of ability or attraction? I can't believe I am having to explain this to someone who claims to be 30 years old!
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:14 PM
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I appreciate that you have drunk so much Kool Aid that you are incapable of even conceiving why you are wrong, but suffice to say that there is a reason we have the expression "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" and no equivalent for men because men accept criticism, rejection, being proved wrong, etc. better than women; your above tantrum aside.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 07:51 PM
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Not at all. Interesting projection on your part though. I was just pointing out that you are wrong, men overall accept criticism far better than women, as is obvious to anyone with any experience of interacting with either in any capacity whatsoever.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 06:50 PM
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Of the two of you, /u/WestwardAlien is not the one who knows nothing about women in the above discourse, irrefutably proved by you saying: when it comes to hurting egos men have a really hard time with accepting real criticism ... as you clearly know as little about men as you do about women if you said the above without sarcasm.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 04:15 PM
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They say that they aren't against the rights of men per se, just the movement - arguing that the movement comprises chauvinists and misogynists, not those advocating for equality. Basically they've drunk the Kool Aid and can't see the wood for the trees and so give every men's rights thing they find the worst possible spin in order to maintain their misguided narrative that a Patriarchy exists and therefore a men's rights movement isn't needed. Wilfully ignorant individuals in the face of facts,…
/r/AntiFeminists25/07/22 04:45 PM
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Even when OP is ignoring height, baldness, difficulty to earn a higher wage, become famous (or gain status in other ways), etc. and it is still exponentially harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:10 PM
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Because I have eyes, ears and a brain Unfortunately for you they seem to be filtering their input through your bias though, otherwise you wouldn't need me to explain why you are incorrect. I'm old enough to have seen the tail end of the oppression of women What do you think this entails? And when are you talking about? The era of Margaret Thatcher? Katherine Graham/Anna Bissell? Marie Curie? Pretending that men are oppressed will not help It isn't pretend. Women don't have to register for select…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 08:22 AM
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You are way off because you do not understand what you are talking about. The Supreme Court didn't take away any rights, state courts did. And now men and women in some states have the same rights when it comes to pregnancy (and obviously women are not happy about that).
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:34 PM
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Feminists know they are lying and that women are privileged. I don't think so. Most are delusional and genuinely believe what they are saying. It is only when confronted by reality (which normally they are insulated from, by men they ignore and take for granted) that the wool is pulled from their eyes, like Cassie Jaye.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:33 PM
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when they do it to women, they don’t just alter it, they remove all possible means of pleasure Only in the most extreme of cases and only affecting an unfortunate few. The most common type is a ritual pricking or nicking that is classed under Type IV. to say that women have “no disadvantages” shows a strong disconnect Considering that it is used with reference to the developed world what you say here is simply incorrect. Forced pregnancy is a pretty fucking big deal and in some cases is fatal. L…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:30 PM
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Men are not "oppressed", just stop it please. Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:24 PM
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Apologies, cross conversation contamination: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1418878112 https://www.linkedin.com/business/talent/blog/talent-acquisition/how-women-find-jobs-gender-report https://gap.hks.harvard.edu/national-hiring-experiments-reveal-21-faculty-preference-women-stem-tenure-track https://www.science20.com/news_staff/genderblind_recruitment_process_leads_to_more_men_being_hired-225169 https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeshumanresourcescouncil/2018/04/03/the-benefits-and-shortco…
/r/MensRights13/07/22 07:35 AM
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First you need to understand context. I'd suggest starting with the work of Murray Strauss who was the world's foremost researcher on domestic violence before his death. The Harvard Study was the most comprehensive research yet conducted into this area of research in the USA, although in the rest of the world the same has been found everywhere from Canada to New Zealand.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 06:51 PM
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Interesting pseudostudy. Sadly most study's that have done this on a bigger scale and controlled for more factors the opposite is true. Most larger scale studies in the English speaking world have replicated this finding, not contradicted it.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:40 PM
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Presumably a male dominated and a female dominate area of work for the sake of contrast.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:39 PM
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LOL other than blatant and pervasive sexism in the workplace Sexism against women in the workplace is career ending. Sexism against men isn't even acknowledged. lack of ownship of your own body Try spending 21 years of your life giving 25% of your income to support someone else's choice that you have no say in. much higher risk of domestic violence Equal risk of domestic violence, you mean, but much, much lower risk of violence overall. inequity in the home With women controlling 80% of expendit…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:25 PM
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participants of both sexes predicted that the average man and woman would exhibit considerable own-sex favoritism. Things like this never cease to shock me as I forget how uninformed the average person is on gender issues, particularly those that operate in the field of gender studies. No one I know would ever think men would show in-group favoritism because I've spoken to them all many times about how men show out-group bias favoritism.
/r/Male_Studies09/07/22 02:29 PM
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No offence to your professor, but an excellent reputation in academia is gained by saying politically correct things. And my take isn't radically different, it is just more thorough and actually addresses the assumption biases that get entirely ignored in your professor's take.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:35 AM
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Yeah I’m gonna need better evidence than one article about one case to believe that majority men are not contesting custody because their lawyer told them so. This is an example. The more likely scenario is that both fathers and mothers prefer the women to be the primary custodial parent. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:17 AM
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Always sensible to check the sources yourself, but even a tenured professor could have their career ended for pointing out the obvious yet politically incorrect reality underlying the conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:14 AM
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It is not a fact it is a convention under current law in some jurisdictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:19 PM
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That could explain why you are getting this wrong - you are looking at it through the prism of what is legal rather than what is moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:42 PM
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I don't have a link tot the study to hand but you can see my interpretation is entirely consistent with the conclusion presented, it just goes further into explaining why this is so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:02 PM
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You are making assumptions about legal matters and assuming that even if you were right, which you are not, that those legal matters themselves would also be correct, which they are not. Do you not realise that you are doing this? Suffice to say that a stay at home parent does not earn or meaningfully contribute to the acquisition of assets within the marriage stemming from the breadwinner's earnings and decisions on how to invest those earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:00 PM
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You wrote: Like I said, most men are happy with the arrangement with the mother as primary custody. After that you mentioned a different issue that had no bearing on anything discussed prior, but for the record, even when children are at risk with the mother and fathers fight "tooth n nail", if your lawyer advises you that you aren't going to get custody then they are probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:56 PM
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You aren't remembering wrong, you're just failing to read between the lines and accepting the conclusion at face value. But anyone with even a passing familiarity of family court systems can see the politically incorrect elements underlying and informing the conclusion that were left out because they were inconveniently undermining the mainstream narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:48 PM
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It isn't, but please do attempt to explain why I and I will correct you once you've done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:38 PM
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You really are trying to impose your flawed and unfair justification onto reality but it just makes you look unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:37 PM
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Child support is not income dependent, existing accommodation also already exists prior to divorce, and anyone with a full-time job saves for their retirement. You just don't have any rational points and are denying reality because it completely contradicts what you've been trying to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:46 AM
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Like I said, if the child is at risk from the mother You didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:39 AM
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Everyone gets these things, even those on benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:33 AM
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If you think that then you aren't just an idiot, you are a bad person. No one is giving up on their child by retaining resources to give to that child rather than giving them to a lawyer advising him that he will not win custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:32 AM
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Men tend not to lose alimony payments from their wife if they remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:25 AM
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That is not what that study showed at all. That study showed that men tried for custody whenever there was even a slight chance that they would be awarded it, throwing disproportionate resources at making it happen - but that most of the time it was never going to happen because of how biased family courts were regarding custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:25 AM
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No. Whilst there always be some Don Quixote's most are sensible enough not to throw resources away on a losing battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:23 AM
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Child support, pension, assets, etc. on top of alimony, which is far more common than you acknowledge all mean the point disproves your thinking on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:22 AM
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Your hypothesis is faulty. They don't lose half the marital assets, they gain assets that they had no hand (or minimal) in obtaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:21 AM
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You say this as if it doesn't support my point. Many don't cohabit precisely because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:18 AM
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They are less high, but courts still generally favor women (especially mothers) even if their husband was the primary caregiver and the wife was the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:17 AM
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It's the way the system works, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:16 AM
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Poorer on paper, not in poverty nor in reality as the system incentivizes them to retain the resources of their ex whilst moving on to a new provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:15 AM
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Because it is true even if women end up financially worse off from a divorce (due to no longer having 100% access to the breadwinner's resources).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:13 AM
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Because if they remarry they lose the alimony!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:45 PM
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Even if she got 75% of all assets, she's still worse off financially post-divorce. 75% of the assets with none of the obligations. Most of the woman-initiated divorces I've observed have been because the man cheated or was abusive. Most divorces are unrelated to cheating or abuse, with "no longer being in love" cited more than all other reasons added together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:44 PM
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Seriously? Look at the thread you are posting in.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 10:15 PM
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Alimony awards don’t happen very often. And men and women marry within the same income bracket typically. They happen frequently and usually in hypergamous relationships. This is true, however most men don’t push for primary custody AT ALL. Because doing so is costly and unless they have been the primary caregiver they rarely succeed. They'd just be taking money that could have gone to themselves and their children and giving it to their lawyer instead. The majority of men prefer the mother to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:07 PM
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All data shows that women are worse off financially after divorce. Because they no longer have access to 100% of the breadwinners resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:03 PM
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Because women find it easier to obtain a new partner and procure his resources as well as those of her ex than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:01 PM
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It isn't obvious, other than being obviously incorrect. Divorce isn't an admin task, it is an emotional and financial decision. What you posit is so patently ridiculous it is hard to believe you are doing so in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:00 PM
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So is incitement to violence.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 09:57 PM
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Men don't divorce because the cost is too high. Women do because the benefits of doing so are so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:56 PM
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To stability? What if one of the victims family decided to take justice into their own hands? How stable would things be if we had a system that encouraged vigilantism rather than rule of law? Because that is what happens when criminals are allowed to act with impunity.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 09:45 PM
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To serve an evolutionary goal. You said it yourself: to increase... stability
/r/MensRights02/07/22 09:27 PM
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This is why chimps kill bullies Retributive justice.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 09:20 PM
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Those are secondary benefits. The purpose of punishment is retributive justice. The concept of justice is subjective and varied depending on who is asked. But the concept of punishment is not. The function of prison is to keep society stable You seem under the mistaken apprehension that it does so by keeping criminals off the streets whereas you do not seem to understand that it does so by preventing people from taking the law into their own hands because they feel that wrongdoers will be punish…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:50 PM
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/u/thatswhyifuckedurmom 1 point 13 minutes ago Ahhh I see what your doing. Very funny
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:28 PM
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Clearly you do not as there is nothing funny in my pointing out why you are wrong.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:20 PM
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You kinda have when you talked about radical feminism and shit. I haven't talked about "radical feminism and shit". I also never said I wasn’t or was a feminist Nor did I say you were, I said you were an idiot for thinking women aren't more privileged today, because they are both legally and culturally with everything from selective service to the sentencing gap.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:10 PM
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Well in that case it just sounds like your ignoring any other factor and just blaming everything on feminism. I haven't mentioned feminism. And yes it is kinda obvious and it is also correct. If you think that you aren't a feminist, you are an idiot.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:04 PM
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Retributive justice.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:54 PM
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Bro what the fuck are you saying? It just sounds like your saying a bunch of random stuff to sound smarter. I didn't use any long words, even someone like you should be able to understand what I am saying. i.e. that just because gender was a factor it doesn't mean there were no other factors. I also never said it was a good thing that women aren’t more privileged I didn't suggest you did. I was just stating the obvious. Except it not only isn't obvious, it isn't correct.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:49 PM
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Punishment for crime through having your freedom taken away.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:46 PM
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What good does it do to throw Nazis in prison? Or murderers who killed along time ago? Or rapists from the previous century who were only caught recently? If justice delayed is justice denied, justice actually denied is more so.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:35 PM
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The fact that you are this delusional is concerning. The only delusional one is you for pretending that because someone acknowledges a gender element they are discounting all other factors. P.S. women aren’t more privileged today. This should be good, why?
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:32 PM
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You cannot trust judicial decisions when biased judicial guidance is issued by governments, policies are enacted that go against the interests of justice in order to increase prosecution rates, or literal exculpatory evidence is excluded from the jury! Incidentally, I'm not the one downvoting you - I appreciate your willingness to engage in a hostile forum. I wish there were more people who thought as you do who were prepared to engage!
/r/MensRights30/06/22 08:19 PM
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The concept is as simple as the concept of a judge excluding exculpatory evidence because it may impinge upon the accusers privacy.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 08:02 PM
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How are people not understanding this? Because it is not the default, it does not happen in practice (as per the UK disclosure scandal), and this proposal is to change the law further to make it even less possible to obtain exculpatory evidence against the interests of justice. The real question is how are you not understanding this?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:55 PM
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Seems like a nothingburger. Only to someone who knows nothing of the law. Look at the acquittal of Ched Evans, for example, had she not been doing the exact same thing she did with him each weekend before and after with different guys he'd still be wrongly convicted.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:32 PM
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if you don't like Trudeau somehow you get labelled a far right wing nut Only by far left wing nuts. No sensible, centrist voter likes blackface "women don't lie about being sexually assaulted, except for that woman who lied about me sexually assaulting her" Trudeau because he is a transparent woke hypocrite.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:26 PM
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If a girl texts you that she really enjoyed sex with you last night and wants to do it again, that is proof of consent and you absolutely should be able to use it as evidence in court. If it is less clear cut than that but in context her saying beforehand that she wants to have sex provides that context then again it absolutely must be permitted as evidence. No one is arguing your straw man and it is bad faith to posit such nonsense.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:24 PM
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https://c.tenor.com/56ewO_NRtXgAAAAC/aye-yes.gif
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:56 PM
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In what possible way could it be misogynistic to ask about someone's weight in relation to their social beliefs? It isn't even a gender specific question, FFS!
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:55 PM
1

Apex fallacy.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:52 PM
1

The fourth guy who identifies the Chad is the real Chad though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:26 PM
1

You seem to be mistakenly conflating theory and practice when it comes to legal convictions. If what you said were true there would never be any wrongful convictions and no need for things like appeals or The Innocence Project. The reality is that both judges and juries are flawed human beings with innate sexual bias towards women which all too often results in convictions without proof, simply on one persons' say so (and sometimes even on less than that like when Ched Evans was wrongfully convi…
/r/MensRights12/06/22 03:29 PM
1

What kind of backwards ass dumbfuckery is this? It isn't. Women want to get equivalent pay for equivalent work. Makes sense, yes? They already do and, the entire point is it doesn't make sense if they also want a male partner to earn more than they do (which they do). In the scenario women collectively want there are not enough suitable men for them. You neglected to mention that 72% of men feel that it is important for a man to be able to support a family financially They've bought into gender …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:49 PM
3

Feminism always fights against equality where the result is negative to women. It isn't an equalities movement, it is a women's interests movement masquerading as an equalities movement.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 07:01 PM
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It would be better if they weren't also denying actual imperfect victims like Depp whilst they were doing it. The author seems genuinely oblivious to her own hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights23/05/22 12:38 PM
2

That is indeed a delusional take on TRP, you couldn't be more correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:25 PM
4

You don't have the right to stop working due to "imputed income".
/r/MensRights19/05/22 12:29 PM
1

Forgive me, I can't read into the minds of teenage boys. If that were the case you wouldn't snipe like one with quips like this ^ What did you think you were doing in posting that picture? Showing me that an already attractive girl can look more presentable with make up? This is a before and after picture of a woman who made their face look different pretty easily, entirely disproving the point you attempted to make in your preceding post. Did she give you permission to post that picture? I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:37 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/jAww69r.png
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:24 PM
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This, for me, is the biggest issue of inequality - the systematic dismissal of inequality when it occurs because of who it occurs to.
/r/MensRights12/04/22 03:48 PM
1

If you want to take it at face value, that's your business. But it seems foolish to do so to me taking into account context. It sounds more like spite and convenience than honesty on his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:33 PM
1

I'm pleased you found this comment and are happy to join the conversation, but respectfully you are not disagreeing with me - you are just providing an example of an exception, an exception that sounds like sour grapes and may not be remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 12:25 PM
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Homisapiens did not wipe out the Neanderthals. Yes they did, both directly through conflict and indirectly through competition for resources. Tall men are stronger, faster, and more intimidating. They also die earlier, have more health problems during life and present larger targets for ranged weapons. The reason why men are bigger and stronger than women is to die protecting women. Whilst a dozen or so millennia of civilization doesn't touch hundreds of millions of years of evolution in terms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:39 PM
1

I addressed the why in my second paragraph, outdated societal and cultural expectations. I meant why for you? If you know that these are holding you back why allow yourself to be constrained by conventions that don't benefit you in any way? it is something that is a work in progress to me. Seriously. Therapy. I just can’t help but feel like a giant wooly mammoth when I’m in heels and 6’0 next to a man that’s 5’6. Address your self-image problems and this issue literally ceases to exist. I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:45 PM
1

Project much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:41 PM
6

More than that, it is wrong. Neanderthals were taller than homo sapiens but homo sapiens wiped them out through better cooperation. This kind of biological preference for taller males is a Darwinian dead end that would have resulted in the extinction of the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:27 AM
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I can’t help but feel uncomfortable next to a man that is significantly shorter. Why? Society, and my culture, has always engrained in me that the man should at least be of equal height or taller. How is that different to, say, a culture that engrains something like female genital mutilation? If they’re significantly shorter, you’re the butt of all jokes Bullying and social shaming are ugly facets of a culture. It got to the point I wouldn’t buy sneakers with any sort of higher sole because I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:15 AM
3

And back problems!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:10 AM
3

So. Once more. WORDS. SHE. WROTE. You keep copying everything I say. Copy EXACTLY what she said so I know what you are talking about. No. You can read her comments as well as I can. I don't know where you are seeing this information. It's a single small paragraph. You didn't read the comments, did you? Also, "reading in between the lines" is a surefire way to misinterprete information in many cases. Not in this.
/r/AntiFeminists25/03/22 11:33 PM
2

im unsure of what to do Don't talk to the police. Do seek out advice and support groups local to you. im at the point of ending my life Don't do this. Seek help. The Samaritans are a good place to start but talk to your doctor too. There is lots of more readily available help for getting out of this mindset than there is for your situation so this might be a better place to start.
/r/MensRights25/03/22 11:31 PM
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It is too late to say "Never talk to the police" but never talk to the police is the best advice you could get. Having spoken to the police you may have inadvertently given them evidence that can be used against you in court, confirming you were with the accuser on the night in question, for example. It is too late to worry about that now but do not say anything else and speak only to your legal aid lawyer about the case. As things stand you absolutely need a lawyer. If you have any resources yo…
/r/MensRights25/03/22 06:39 PM
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You really like making stuff up don't you? No. Now because I don't agree with you I must have no social skills. No, you have no social skills because you cannot understand the social interaction that took place. You just make fallacious statements and arguments and keep repeating that she ghosted him. It isn't fallacious, it is the name for the behavior she engaged in with him of waiting for him to always instigate and then ending all communication when it was well beyond her turn to do so. Do y…
/r/AntiFeminists25/03/22 06:21 PM
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If you don't see that she literally describes never instigating conversation with him despite him doing it all the time and now clearly waiting for her response to his efforts then you are not going crazy, you are a moron with no social skills - just like her.
/r/AntiFeminists25/03/22 05:26 PM
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That sounds like your interpretation. It is what she said happened. I really didn't get that from this. I imagine you don't get a lot of stuff if you didn't even get this after she literally said it is what she did. She seemed like she felt like she got ghosted. Because she is too stupid to understand that she ghosted him. She could have messaged him sure. But she didn't, hence the ghosting. Since none of use actually know her or witnessed the situation we can't really say we know everyone's mot…
/r/AntiFeminists25/03/22 05:13 PM
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Feminism has created a culture of completely infantilized women who expect to have everything handed to them. She's literally ghosted this guy and is too stupid to see what she has done as a direct result of this.
/r/AntiFeminists25/03/22 01:47 PM
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Not convenient if you are struggling with social cues, but now that you are aware of what you've been doing wrong you can do something to remedy that if you so choose. But you can't say that you understand social cues just fine if you are making the sorts of mistakes that result in what happened to you in your OP, because you are not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 10:22 AM
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If you can pick up on social cues you'll understand NVC and not be having the issues you're having because you'll see how simple it is to get a clear steer before asking. What you've been trying to do is ask first without getting a clear steer and as you have found out to your cost, that isn't how things work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 10:40 PM
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The reality is that it is somewhat complicated and difficult if you take things at face value, but once you understand the dance going on below the surface it becomes a lot easier and makes a lot more sense. Obviously it is harder for those who struggle with social cues than those who do not but that is just how life is. Fortunately the hidden rules are pretty simple and as I described above - make sure you are going to get a "yes" in response before you ask by playing the flirting game enough t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 07:57 PM
1

I admire countless women including but not limited to Erin Pizzey, Christina Hoff-Sommers, Elizabeth Fox-Genovese, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Daisy Cousens, Wendy McElroy, Camille Paglia, Cathy Young, Janice Fiamengo, Karen DeCrow, Bettina Arndt, Jean Bethke-Elshtain, Norah Vincent, Karen Straughan, Lauren Southern, Diana Davison, Janet Bloomfield, Alison Tieman, Cassie Jaye, Margaret Thatcher, Marie Curie, Golda Meir, Monica Seles, Svetlana Boginskaya, Sabine Schmidt & Queen Elizabeth II.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:28 PM
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I suspect from nothing more than how you've described things you are asking without having first flirted and obtained an indication that you'd get a positive response with those you'd like to get to know better? Without ensuring you are going to get a "yes" before you suggest an invite through putting in some ground work before asking, a guy can come across as socially inept and thus essentially guarantee the outcome you've experienced. The reality is that you need to obtain the "yes" before you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 03:38 PM
3

They are so confident in their absolute dominance of the only acceptable narrative about equality that they forget to hide that they are actively anti-equality!
/r/MensRights13/03/22 05:03 PM
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Username fits.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 10:49 AM
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Whilst the actual number is a grey number and can never be exactly known we have enough evidence from exonerated convictions to know that hundreds of convictions are wrongful and these are the cases that are brought to court, thousands more there is enough evidence to prove innocence (as he-said-she-said evidence - and sometimes even less evidence than that - is enough to obtain convictions): https://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/ten-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common http://www.fa…
/r/MensRights08/03/22 10:22 PM
2

7 1/3. 7 1/3 as many people would prefer to save a woman over a man. I.e., in a classroom with 25 students, 22 would prefer to sacrifice the man, and only 3 would prefer to sacrifice the woman. Correct me if I'm wrong, but could there not also be no preference for the 3 rather than they'd prefer to sacrifice the woman?
/r/Male_Studies08/03/22 06:33 PM
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Perhaps sarcasm is the wrong word, but it is clear she didn't mean it literally and still thinks of unsolicited compliments as harassment. Here is the original article so you can decide for yourself.
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 07:24 PM
2

The quotes aren't faked, they are just taken out of context. Valenti was being sarcastic with the second quote, like Paul Elam when he copied the "bash a violent man in the face" article and literally just swapped the sexes.
/r/AntiFeminists05/03/22 03:07 PM
1

"There are (half) dozens of us!"
/r/Male_Studies28/02/22 08:11 PM
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One of the things all studies find is that n-count matters far more for women than men in terms of successful future marriage. So whilst technically what you are saying is not entirely incorrect in that it is a factor for both sexes in terms of likelihood of successful future marriage, it is still disingenuous what you are saying because for one sex the difference is statistically negligible whereas the opposite is true for the other. Also, there is nothing BS about the lock and key analogy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 07:02 PM
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Female only scholarships are allowed but male only aren't despite women dominating academia. Sweden has already abandoned programmes to help under-represented groups in education when they were used to benefit men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 06:42 PM
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It is only wrong when we have a societal structure that promotes an idea of "equality" that sees favoritism towards women as demonstrating a successful example of equality but favoritism towards men as an example of inequality e.g. female only scholarships but no male only scholarships despite women dominating in academia. In such instances, as we have in the West right now, all this leads to is large numbers of unhappy people unable to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:06 PM
3

Is there any wonder women don't find that desirable? They absolutely do find that desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:24 PM
1

I do consider myself a feminist, if a feminist is someone who believes in equal rights for women. That's an egalitarian. Someone who believes in Patriarchy Theory (i.e. that society is structured to benefit men at the expense of women) is a feminist. Antifeminists do not believe in Patriarchy Theory and are active in disavowing it. Most antifeminists are egalitarian, although some believe in traditional gender roles.
/r/AntiFeminists19/02/22 07:36 PM
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Glad you've taken this step as whilst it is obvious to anyone interested in this topic what the difference is between obvious and ridiculous false flags by feminists and regular material they only need to get the nonsense in front of one of many biased admins to get the sub banned.
/r/AntiFeminists19/02/22 07:24 PM
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Men have created their own version of feminine and then brainwashed women into believing this is how women naturally act. No they haven't. That feminine means “vulnerable, docile, submissive”. All of these words indicate that not only is the woman less than the man, but the man has inherent power of the woman. No, they don't, they indicate that a man has an obligation to provide for those who are not able to provide for themselves. This, imo, is why a lot of women are rejecting femininity altoge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:28 PM
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I came across a different article online that says he actually touched the girl. It says he "allegedly" touched her and that was rejected by the police who said no further action was warranted.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 10:46 AM
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The RIGHT thing is to be the desirable guy and ASK. Nope, asking makes you into an undesirable guy. You're supposed to not ask and take your life in your hands if you make the wrong call. Schroedinger's sexual assault.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 10:37 AM
1

If you are attracted to him, he is. If you are not, he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:37 PM
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Not least of all because he couldn't stop her from incurring that debt he'd be liable for. It's like coverture laws that made husbands/fathers liable for their wife's debts never actually went away.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/02/22 03:28 PM
3

Say "It is set by women and the Matriarchy. Men are just policing other men on behalf of women."
/r/MensRights03/02/22 10:17 AM
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More concerned with protecting their narrative than with boys being discriminated against... I think it is also only reasonable to consider that without putting in such a qualifier to appeal to the dominant feminist narrative that this study might be dismissed or the author refused research opportunities in future and that this statement was merely protecting one's self against reprisals for producing a politically inconvenient finding.
/r/Male_Studies02/02/22 03:55 PM
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Yes, they are literally admitting "We don't have a rebuttal to what you've said so we are going to attack you as a person because we can't refute what you said".
/r/MensRights02/02/22 10:53 AM
1

No, we were talking about an android, not an AI. An android is a robot designed to look like a human. An AI is a sentient computer. A dildo that looks like a person is still a dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:27 PM
1

Are you one of those people who think the woman who married a bridge isn't insane then? Regardless, a sex toy is not a person, even if it is designed to be aesthetically similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:38 PM
1

Whether she imagines it in her mind or programmes a sex toy to do it, it is still just masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:17 PM
6

I remember that! Regardless of whether it was true it was insane not just as an idea but to then tell her current partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:56 PM
2

This but without the sarcasm. It is literally no different from a dildo. There is no "relationship" with a sex toy regardless of the aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:05 AM
5

True, but the 80s was the pinnacle of the action movie genre, so it is de facto the greatest action movie ever made.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:52 PM
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How dare you! It is the quintessential 80s action movie, Arnie's best role and has Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura, Bill Duke and Sonny "Absolutely insane - scares the Hell out of everyone" Landham, as well as Shane Black and even The Muscles From Brussels himself was involved in some of the earlier creature work before Kevin Peter Hall took over. Great quotes, acting, tension, lore, setting, action, explosions, etc. Get to to da choppa! Ain't got time to bleed Dylan! You son of a bitch! She says t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:06 PM
3

It is truly shocking how few people, especially in a fora like this, understand that you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:10 PM
2

Successful relationships require (correctly directed) effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:48 PM
1

Then I'm afraid you haven't understood the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:48 PM
0

I’ve had men get/act bored of me and I didn’t feel some strange need to capture their attention or hold onto them? Okay, but do you accept that this isn't the case in all instances (not least of all with sunk costs, dread game, fear of not being able to do as well in future, etc.)? What do women have to gain from trying to hold onto a man that’s not interested in them? What do women have to gain from staying with men who cheat on them, beat them up, pimp them out to others, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:56 PM
5

And "familiarity breeds contempt".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:44 PM
2

Why, when it is incorrect? TRP is about creating and maintaining attraction and that applies even more in LTRs. Maintaining the spark requires effort as well as understanding so that you actually do things that work to keep it alive as opposed to wasting effort and energy doing things that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:43 PM
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Because intelligent people can determine the validity of an argument based on its supposition and this argument is valid. If women are attracted to guys out of their league and a guy is bored in the relationship and looking to leave this makes it seem that he is worth holding on to. It also happens to be a well established truth with plenty of proof available should you choose to so look but that merely reinforces the validity of the claim - it would still be true without proof that it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:40 PM
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I'm asking about "patriarchy", the idea that men tend to hold power in society and exclude women from it (paraphrase) Apex fallacy thinking. Men don't hold power in society, although they often wield power in society, it is just that when they do either they do it on behalf of women's interests and not men's. As such, according to your definition patriarchy does not exist.
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 03:47 PM
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Are those the deleted posts? All I can see seems to be mostly explaining how and why male emotional labor is disregarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:46 PM
2

The two of you are in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:53 PM
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I'd like to have a productive and helpful conversation with her to help her cope with her anxiety, as well to burst her myths regarding this. Is there any way to do this without severing our friendship ?? I'd just say that the grass always looks greener but that 99% of guys in the developed world would happily trade their lives for the life of an average woman. You can mention things like the life expectancy gap, the empathy gap, the tax gap, the educational attainment gap, the touch gap, social…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 10:45 AM
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They prioritise based on location. Shouldn't they prioritise on first come first served?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 09:42 PM
1

Start with the oldest video here and work your way through to the most recent: https://www.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:30 PM
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No offence but it was pretty clear from your position that you had no idea about the reality of events. I don't hold it against you and have upvoted your posts.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:29 PM
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School really failed us huh. You have no idea. I had no idea about any of that. Most of those only looking at the past from the perspective of today make the same error you did and feminism deliberately distorts the truth to claim historical victimhood. It was always focused on the negatives That's because they weren't trying to teach you, they were trying to convert you.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:24 PM
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They wrote them with the ideal that women couldn’t do things on their own. They wrote them with the idea that women shouldn't have to and men should have to do it for them. If women worked a job It wasn’t appreciated and it was thought more of a hobby. More often a necessity for a woman who didn't have a man to provide for her.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:23 PM
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No problem. I'd also suggest reading this discussion synopsis: https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/er5kel/a_very_interesting_exchange_on_rpurplepilldebate/
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:11 PM
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https://twitter.com/manumiss1on/status/1003998735289012226 You'll need to scroll upwards
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:10 PM
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If you remove the context that sounds terrible. But if you understand the context that was merely a quirk of how laws were written and not reflected in the day to day experience of women who had the de jure same rights as men without the same responsibilities. Women can and did divorce, work and own property. Yet if they had them it was the responsibility and obligation of their husbands, fathers or other male relatives to provide for them. Furthermore their husbands, fathers or other male relat…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:09 PM
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I showed you exactly as much proof as you showed making your argument. But because you are clearly poorly informed on this issue I'd suggest you start here: http://fact.on.ca/Info/dom/husband.htm https://digpodcast.org/2018/02/25/coverture/ http://empathygap.uk/?p=2646 https://www.purplemotes.net/2015/08/16/coverture-domestic-violence-criminalization-men/ https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Domestic-Violence-Against-Men-By-Suzanne-Steinmetz-FK44NM3VUXZW
/r/MensRights19/01/22 05:48 PM
3

The earnings gap is a result of productivity, responsibility, qualifications, experience, hours worked, etc. Those responsible for generating more income for the business tend to earn more on average than those who don't. When accounting for race or sex it for all intents and purposes disappears. Sexism and racism have been illegal in the workplace for a long time and the costs of entertaining them far outweighs any benefits for employers of doing so regardless of how individually racist or sexi…
/r/MensRights19/01/22 05:37 PM
6

Women were oppressed in that time. They were often home waiting for abusive husbands. Men were oppressed in that time. They were often working hard for abusive wives.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 05:31 PM
3

You're missing the wood for the trees by failing to understand what "confidence" is referring to in this discussion. No one is triggered by confident women as OP suggested. But being confident doesn't mean you can achieve what you believe you can achieve. You can be confident that you are a unique special snowflake all you want but that doesn't translate into sexual marketplace success. In order to obtain that success you need to be desirable to prospective partners. Confidence needn't come from…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:42 PM
2

The point is that your confidence may not translate into results.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:25 PM
4

It is important to value yourself in a relationship, but it is equally important to understand that not everything you value about yourself will matter to someone else and that regardless of how highly you yourself your worth to others is determined by their value of you rather than your own. Those with the best prospects have attributes that others value more than what they value in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:11 PM
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Guys often appreciate the things you value but don't necessarily value them as much. Intelligence, career success, popularity, an Ivy League education, etc. are far less important to men than kindness, attractiveness, sexual compatibility, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:31 PM
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Perhaps you came across as arrogant, but generally when women are "confident" about their worth they are basing it on what they find attractive in men rather than what men find attractive in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:16 PM
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Is a confident woman a threat? No. Why do you suppose people felt inclined to put me in my place? They aren't putting you in your place, they are advising you that the things that you value about yourself don't matter in the slightest to most potential romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:59 PM
2

Who the fuck writes this shit? Bigots.
/r/MensRights13/01/22 11:42 AM
1

"or claims that Jews control the media" Is this not factually true? No, it is not factually true and that assumption is racist as well as being incorrect. Are not the majority of stakeholders in the media of Jewish origin? I think it's pretty easy to prove... That isn't what you said above when you were making the Apex Fallacy. Jews do not control the media. Some Jewish individuals do occupy positions of influence in some media though.
/r/MensRights13/01/22 11:41 AM
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Replace "men" with "blacks" and it is easier for those on the fence to see what a bigot this person is.
/r/MensRights13/01/22 10:53 AM
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It's not just compelled speech, it is completely wrong. Women falsely accuse other people of all kinds of stuff all the time as anyone who has ever had to deal with teen girls knows. Honestly, there are so many that are so bad they make Regina George look like Mr Rodgers.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 11:03 PM
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It's not merely compelled speech Boston University is demanding, it is the wrong answer. False accusations are far more common than truthful ones as anyone who has ever dealt with teens striving for social dominance knows; lies about others are a way of controlling social power and the sorts of individuals who who do this, of which there are many, make Regina George look like Mr Rodgers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/22 10:39 PM
3

Nothing from the time but: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/banks-wrongfully-convicted-rape/ https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/brian-banks-why-did-his-accuser-wanetta-gibson-allegedly-lie
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:02 PM
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What makes you think the system protected the falsely accused in this particular case as so far as I can see no one has suggested that? It has happened in many other cases though. And she didn't confess, per se, he recorded her admitting she made it up but even then she wasn't prepared to come forward because she was concerned she might have to give back some or all of the money she was awarded. This is not a great outcome by any stretch of the imagination and heaps injustice on injustice but th…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 10:00 PM
3

From the initial trial. They never had sex.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 08:13 PM
1

As already explained in the link above, those who make false accusations lack the forethought to think about the consequences and only think about their immediate gratification. That's literally why they make false accusations. All having lengthy prison sentences does is make them less likely to recant, it doesn't affect their initial false accusations at all.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 08:04 PM
3

If there were any way to have both I'd fully support it, but until there is it is more important to protect the falsely accused.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:55 PM
0

No. But even if it did it is more important that they feel free to recant as it is more important that innocent men be freed than lying scum be punished. But if there were any way to have both I'd fully support it.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:55 PM
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She is responsible and she is a broke grifter in debt to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. The whole thing is just so unbelievably unfair but even if Banks sued her she has nothing to give.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:53 PM
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There was no sexual contact between the two. It was entirely made up.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:51 PM
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We need to teach our boys to stay away from one-on-one situations with women. Banks didn't have a one on one situation with this woman. It wasn't like they had consensual sex and she pretended it was rape, they never had sex at all. There was no evidence. None. You can't protect yourself against that.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:51 PM
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She has nothing. She's a habitual grifter and wasted all the money she got from the school district in the settlement. He can't even go after her for perjury because the statue of limitations passed when he was still convicted. It's a sick horror show of corruption, not-fit-for-purpose-laws, and injustice.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:49 PM
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Yes. And that is the prisoners dilemma in this situation. On the one hand you want to discourage false accusations with long sentences but on the other you want those who falsely accused others to admit it so that innocent men don't have to go through what this guy did.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:32 PM
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You are absolutely correct. It is horrible to let those who do this get away with it but it isn't worth the risk of one innocent man spending another day behind bars wrongly labelled as a rapist to give them the punishment they deserve.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:27 PM
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Highly unlikely. Most who lie about false accusations do so without thought to the consequences.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:25 PM
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Then cases like this would never result in the girl admitting that she lied. In cases like this you have to choose between the innocent victim being wrongly labelled a rapist, serving a rapists' sentence, and suffering the punishment of a rapist both in and after prison with all that entails, and punishing the false accuser. I say protecting the falsely accused is more important.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 07:24 PM
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The initial study which found the alpha beta social structure in wolves was tried again and found to be deeply flawed. That is entirely missing the point that the this is an analogy. Men who call themselves “alphas” and call others “betas” are just creating arbitrary titles with no actual basis in science or reality. They are outcomes based on approaches. Alphas are those who are able to obtain sex without offering commitment. Betas are those who are not and have to use commitment/resources. Sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:35 AM
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This is interesting because The Bell Curve postulates that men should be over-represented at both extremes. Perhaps China has cultural issues that make parents care less about their female children's education, perhaps stemming from the One Child policy or suchlike? I suspect replicability elsewhere will show The Bell Curve to be right and this to be an anomaly.
/r/Male_Studies09/01/22 10:53 PM
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'Fault' is a loaded and misleading term. 'Cause' is more applicable and the cause is a result of one sex being the selector of the other sex and the sex that is selected competing for selection. Some men may police themselves and/or their own sex on behalf of women's interests but it is more women (as a demographic rather than individuals per se) although those men who do so police are doing it on behalf of women (whether women welcome it or not), so deeply ingrained is such behavior in the huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:45 PM
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Just because you want to call it something else or dont understand what it entails doesn't mean your argument is valid. My argument isn't valid because of what I call it, it is valid because it is a more rational explanation for what is referred to as "toxic masculinity" than that preferred by those who attempted to explain the wealth of evidence contradicting their entire belief system without experiencing cognitive dissonance. Of course you think children would understand because they are prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:35 PM
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And those brought up to sacrifice themselves for others do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:56 PM
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Women aren't granted any more inherent value than men are, they are just typically inherently valued for different things. Tell me, have you ever heard the phrase "Women and children first"? Good people do get overlooked, mostly because being good doesn't entitle you to anything. Not valuing being good is precisely why so many men treat women badly - especially if they have plentiful options. The simple truth is that the biological imperative for the woman to be more partner selective than the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:00 PM
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And explaining in no small amount of detail why this is not toxic masculinity and what it actually is instead in ways even a child could understand. Yet you haven't addressed it, ironically demonstrating the exact phenomenon I'm talking about and why it isn't toxic masculinity at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:57 PM
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The point is why they don't save their own lives. I remember reading once about in prehisotirc times how injured men unable to hunt properly would still go out to do so to save the mother of their child from having to take such risks even though it increased the likelihood of all parties dying. That is how hard wired it is into our DNA and society only exacerbates that. Guys don't want to die but they are so overwhelmingly only valued for their sacrifice that it results in perverse outcomes as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:46 PM
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Women fought for the right to join the military. No they didn't, they were welcomed to fill the production roles that men were no longer able to because they were on the front lines. More women are against the draft than men are. Antifeminist women, sure. And nobody forces men into dangerous jobs because slavery is finally illegal. Social pressure exists. Why else would anyone take dangerous jobs? There is definitely a culture of toxic masculinity still out there Toxic masculinity doesn't exist,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:40 PM
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Think about what you are saying here. If it is so serious it is preventing people from literally saving their own lives then it is an important issue that we should all care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:32 PM
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You think women are always valued by men for who they are? Never for money or their vaginas? Sometimes they are admired for additional reasons as well but that doesn't change that women are granted inherent value. That's why it is so bad for women with issues that prevent them from being able to access that privilege as they are assumed to have it by society even if they don't. The world is equal like that. People are shitty and will value you for their own shitty reasons unless you find a truly…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:23 PM
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Some are less trusting but the reason why is as obvious as the elephant in the room no one ever wants to talk about - if men need help then they aren't providing utility whilst they are getting it. And whilst your father may have projected that on to you women are supported in seeking help across society whereas men are shamed for needing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:19 PM
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Respectfully, you are lying to yourself. Every developed nation has catered virtually exclusively to women's interests at the expense of men's throughout living memory and even going back centuries the balance of rights and responsibilities always favored women who were never drafted into wars or forced to perform lethal tasks to provide for their families because they were expendable, unlike all but the tiniest number of powerful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:08 PM
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What equality would make mens dating lives better? Being valued for who they are rather than what they can provide, for example. what could be modified to help men feel less lonely that wouldn't take away a woman's individual freedoms? Actual equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:42 PM
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Of course, but men have been attempting to advocate for themselves since the 1970s and have been completely dismissed. Women on the other hand have been completely accepted despite having issues and concerns that are objectively far less significant and starting from a better overall position in terms of quality of life. There comes a point where even the staunchest feminist needs to ask "If men have all the power how come women make the rules?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:33 PM
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This lack of understanding you have is making you a bad person as it leads to flawed assumptions on your part that make things worse. So as you don't continue to make this error going forwards, society is geared towards men competing for women. Whilst individual societies may be more or less successful at delivering this outcome all are geared towards it. Women's interests are listened to and acted upon by both sexes because of the inherent in-group preference women have and the inherent out-gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:17 PM
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You think most average or below average women have a bunch of men fawning after them? No, that is you projecting. You guys take the experience of desirable women and compare them to undesirable men. No we do not. That is an obvious lie people like you tell themselves to avoid having to confront the blatant double standards you exhibit so you can still pretend to yourselves that you support equality rather than what you are actually doing which is the opposite of supporting equality. An undesirab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:12 PM
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Project, much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:09 PM
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Sex is only one facet of this, not the whole picture. Are you familiar with The Red Pill concept of "orbiters"? The unreciprocated validation is what I'm talking about here, not just sex. Although your dismissal of the importance of sex to those who desire it but are denied it also speaks from a position of abundance mentality which most men (and even some women) can't even imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:13 PM
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It isn't a case of accepting or not accepting, it is a case of all that is available. It isn't something men can change, only women can. Indeed men who attempt to change it are shamed and insulted for doing so as incels, women-haters, virgins, losers, etc. Fortunately more and more women are coming around to men's rights as they see what feminism has been doing wrong over decades gone by and it is starting to make a small but positive difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 02:11 PM
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I don't mean to be all "Who hurt you?" but your response to what I wrote is so far removed from what I said it is very hard not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:51 PM
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It's not very PC to say but if a prostitute from Russia or wherever doesn't say that she was involuntarily trafficked to the USA she gets sent back if caught. Only the truly naive or those pushing an agenda pretend the statistics of those who claim to have been involuntarily trafficked are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:48 PM
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women are MUCH more likely to be victims of sex crimes and sex trafficking. Sex crimes are a subcategory of crimes of violence which women are much less likely to be a victim of. I've addressed sex trafficking elsewhere in this thread but your odds of winning the lottery are far higher than being an unwilling victim of sex traffickers - indeed most of those who are trafficked for sex work pay a fortune to be so. Women, at least in the U.S, are often treated less seriously, or we have our skills …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:44 PM
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This was not a personal example but rather a highlighting of how men are valued for their utility and denigrated when they not only cannot provide it but instead need it from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:33 PM
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It is true. The reason for the "unequal workload" as you put it is different tolerances and attitudes surrounding housekeeping. The sole reason things seem unequal is because women choose to do more. They aren't forced to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:32 PM
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The amount of people who actually think the average stays the same if people do this is too damn high!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:15 PM
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200%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:13 PM
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By happiness you mean dick. Pretty sure by happiness he means feeling valued for who he is by potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:13 PM
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It isn't an assumption, it is an analysis based on the evidence and statistics that show by virtually every quality of life measure women have it better than men from work/life balance to likelihood of being a victim of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:11 PM
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I’d doubt you’d last very long in your average woman’s shoes That's like saying "You may be experienced with playing a computer game on Nightmare Difficulty but you'd not last very long on Easy Difficulty". I’ve seen a couple videos where men experienced stimulated period cramps they could not handle it Pretty sure if women were experiencing simulated period cramps they'd react the same way but one doesn't need to compare this to things like work injuries/fatalities, suicide rates, likelihood of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:09 PM
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That is precisely the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:38 AM
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I got help for that. Must be nice to feel able to do that and be praised and championed for doing so rather than shamed and denigrated for needing help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:37 AM
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There are more than enough women in poor countries across the world engaged in sex work there who are happy to pay to be trafficked to a first world nation to engage in sex work there instead. It simply isn't cost-effective to sex traffic unwilling participants who don't generate repeat business. Most of those who claim to have been unwillingly trafficked do so to stay in the country and avoid prosecution because that is how the system incentivises them. The handful of truly unwilling victims ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:35 AM
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Interestingly enough women are more than four times as likely to be sexually assaulted by other inmates in prison than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:29 AM
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OP talks about expectations but totally leaves out society's expectation to women that women should do more total work because we're supposedly never off the clock at home. This is not a societal expectation it is a female preference that no one expects or forces upon women. more and more women are realizing that they simply have no need for a man because all they do is bring extra work and entitlement. Bigotry aside, this is incorrect and increasingly so as women outperform men in academia and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:21 AM
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I get physical freedoms and security that women just don’t have Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:18 AM
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Women and girls may seem like they show less interest in stem simply because their parents and educators treat them as if they wouldn't. It's a never ending cycle. Everyone bends over backwards to encourage women into STEM. I'm sure you've seen this?
/r/MensRights07/01/22 08:20 AM
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Like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic? Feminism has consistently fought against equality whenever it has disfavored women on everything from recognition of male victims of domestic violence to gender blind hiring practices. You can't be both for and against equality and feminism is against equality whereas men's rights is for equality. That's the reality of what feminism is and does in practice.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 08:14 AM
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it's not like men DONT and haven't had things like preference for ages. It is exactly like that and has been for ages. if there wasn't a problem with men getting hired over equally or more qualified women then we wouldn't need the outreach for girls and women regarding STEM education and career guidance. There was never such a problem. STEM is hard, that's why women tend to opt for it less. But from Marie Curie to Margaret Thatcher women were not held back in STEM.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 08:12 AM
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The courts don't allow you to do that and will issue liens on wages, seize assets, whatever they can to screw the guy over.
/r/MensRights04/01/22 10:10 AM
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She is exactly what those supporting actual equality are fighting against.
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/22 12:20 PM
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Not at all correct. Women who approach are deemed abnormal and it is regarded as a huge red flag. The best advice to give a woman in order to be successful with a man isn't inviting him to meet her somewhere else, it is saying that she'd say "Yes!" if he invited her somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:23 PM
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"Overt, actual racism is fine if it is done by a group we favor against a group we disfavor."
/r/PussyPassDenied31/12/21 04:47 PM
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The two women were not being racist they were being partisan. They were also being partisan but they most definitely were being racist. IMHO the white dudes intentionally went to that study area knowing that wearing “Did Not Vote For Biden” T-shirt and a “Police Lives Matter” on their laptop might cause a issue. That issue being demonstrating the vileness and nastiness of bigots too confident in their hatred to let something they disagreed with slide. they paid tuition to the school and were qui…
/r/PussyPassDenied31/12/21 04:40 PM
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And yet that comment still makes more sense than what the two girls in the article are trying to argue!
/r/PussyPassDenied31/12/21 04:37 PM
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Ultimately, what's the benefit of earning more money on average if it doesn't translate to a better quality of life on average? Help me understand. If you are a guy it allows you to appeal to a more desirable partner than you otherwise would. The same does not hold true for women which is why so few women make the sacrifices necessary to become a top earner - the rewards simply aren't worth it for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/21 08:20 PM
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The sorts of men who are most successful with women don't need to put in the effort to make the woman enjoy it because if it becomes too much of a chore there are plenty of other options for them. As such they tend to remain selfish lovers. Less appealing guys on the other hand need to put in more effort to be appealing and so are more receptive to being taught and putting in the effort. But as such guys are less successful and not the sort of guys girls want to be having great sex with most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:31 PM
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Two words. Russell Brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:58 PM
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There is no 'normal' there is a constant culture war between progressives pushing wokeness and reactionaries attempting to reel things back. But the woke brigade have infiltrated the ideological state apparatus through The Long March Through The Institutions and will not give up what they've one easily. Things are going to get worse, not better, until the Western powers fall and authoritarians like China become the new global superpower. This will happen in our lifetimes. The woke don't care as …
/r/MensRights15/12/21 06:05 PM
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Of course people should be judged by who they decide to have as sexual partners! And shaming is just policing societal norms. And guys who want to have sex will pressure those they want to have sex with to have sex with them because of those policed societal norms. It's like you don't understand why mating rituals exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:55 PM
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I think your reaction is pretty normal, but also very naive. Once you get beyond the bravado and into the detail you see that those who are on the forums are predominantly those new to the concepts who haven't yet digested them and are still trying to prove how alpha they are, masking their own lack of confidence behind braggadocio. Have you seen the movie The Karate Kid? You're seeing Johnny and Kreese using their karate to bully and harm and assuming that karate is bad. The reality is more lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:27 PM
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TRP doesn't use or refer to HVM, it refers to status. Alpha is an outcome dependent characteristic. Those who achieve selection success through alpha traits are necessarily bad choices for romantic partners because they can and will do better than you - that is what makes them alpha. Beta traits such as loyalty, provision-ability, thoughtfulness, etc. are a different means of attempting selection success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:28 PM
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This is a really good post. I'd add equal rights for men and women to decide whether to become parents or not.
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/21 02:47 PM
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red pill - I don't know... it would be really against my principles (which are respecting people, being altruistic, only having serious relationship that leads to marriage, treating everyone equally, showing empathy etc) and he would have an opposite view on the world... Why do you think they would have an opposite view of the world? I see nothing in your worldview that is contradicted by TRP. You seem to have a broadly accurate view of Incels and MGTOWs, why not TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:42 PM
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How about we stop attacking the women who are honest and accept it maturely What is wrong with calling hypergamerous sluts with unrealistic standards "hypergamerous sluts with unrealistic standards"? Nothing wrong with casting accurate judgement or asking hypergamerous sluts with unrealistic standards to be honest about what they are (or angry that they are hypergamerous sluts with unrealistic standards).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:15 PM
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society gave men a leg up for millennia until now Did it though? Because the evidence suggest the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:39 PM
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All I can think of reading this.
/r/AntiFeminists04/12/21 05:40 PM
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The answer is because men had every right prior to feminist movements, and women had essentially none. /sigh This is what feminism has told you. It is not at all what historically happened. Men have always been deemed expendable by society, forced to fight in wars, take dangerous jobs, provide for their families, etc. Women were historically protected from all of this. They had protections men did not and had far more power and influence over both the home and the political arena through soft po…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 09:45 PM
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What falsehood am I preaching? That anti-feminism is not the same as supporting the rights of men. I’ve mostly just expressed my experiences here and my own takeaways from interactions with MRAs. Without apparently understanding why those interactions have gone that way when based upon your assumptions it seems evident. It’s interesting how many men here are experts on the definition of feminism, and how it amazingly aligns perfectly with what you want it to be. Feminism is pretty much universal…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 08:25 PM
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I guess both sides have a good way of brainwashing their little army. Not really. Most feminists don't even realise they are doing it and MRAs aren't doing it at all, they are simply being objective. Also yes they are similar brain-wise. I'm not sure what you mean but this but it isn't true. Women have a larger hypocampus and it works differently, for example. Men have more grey matter, women have more white matter. Differences manifest themselves in terms of preferred toys, play and activities …
/r/MensRights03/12/21 08:22 PM
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That makes sense because of gender norms placed on women. It has nothing to do with gender norms and is instead a result of women being inherently valued, unlike men. women and men are very similar (brain-wise) They most certainly are not with different preferences manifesting from infancy and very different bell curve distribution. I’m speaking facts? You are voicing your opinion on issues you've been wrongly taught are facts but they are not facts at all, they are falsehoods that are widely un…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 08:12 PM
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TRP is entirely unrelated to the MRM. Women get more mad because they are more used to special treatment rather than equality (which feels like oppression when you are used to special treatment). You perceiving misogyny as being more of an issue than misandry is a result of society only recognising misogyny as a problem whereas it sees misandry as normal and therefore invisible. Women have always had historically more rights than men as men have always been deemed by society to be disposable and…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 08:08 PM
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Respectfully, you are revealing the shallowness of your understanding with this comment (and your other comments). Feminists are far more misandrist than MRAs are misogynistic but so is society which results in misandry neither being acknowledged or recognised by those engaging in it. If you'd understood this you wouldn't make the mistake you have of claiming the opposite. As for being welcomed, I'm not sure what you were expecting but your gender has no bearing here on your opinions, unlike wit…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:59 PM
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Which ones are doing this? The NOW, Oprah, Gloria Steinam, Munroe Bergdorf, Julie Blindell, Julie Burchill, Clementine Ford, Anita Sarkessian, etc.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:54 PM
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According to who? He thought he was. He hated them, thinking they were whinny pussies and thought of MRAs exactly the same as you say you do: "generally willfully ignorant of social issues, unaware of their own bias, and generally lack empathy and perspective." You have more in common with him than any MRA does.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:32 PM
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I don’t understand how they don’t understand that the fight is against the laws in court and not other women? Faulty hypothesis and bad faith to boot. Everyone here does understand that the fight is against inequality, not women. The problem is feminism supports inequality (whilst pretending to do the opposite) on every issue where there would be a disadvantage to women from a presumption of equal custody in divorce to gender blind sentencing for criminals to even acknowledging the existence (le…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:30 PM
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people especially wealthy people, overwhelmingly marry people in their wealth bracket. Hypergamy is a thing. Eating at McDonalds is a far cry from taking your date to a McDonalds That's missing the point and straw manning at the same time. I don’t have millions in the bank and can afford that.. I'm guessing you don't have a multi-million mortgage?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:32 PM
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Millionaires unless they are dumbasses date and pursue other millionaires. /Tell me you aren't a millionaire without telling me you are not a millionaire. Even if we were talking exclusively about relationships rather than casual sex and the complex myriad of everything in between things like trusts, prenups, etc. mean this hasn't been true for generations. Who exactly do you think keeps these restaurants who charge hundreds of dollars for appetizers and thousands for bottles of wine open? Expen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:58 PM
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Why do you think that? Because it most definitely is true and I've done it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:06 PM
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Not if you feel you yourself are more valuable and the same amount of effort will yield the same result regardless of how 'valuable' you perceive the other party to be. A wannabe playa might take a girl out to a fancy restaurant to show off but a genuine millionaire will go for coffee because he has nothing to prove. This is why FDS fails so badly at doing what it intends to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:24 PM
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Female doctors/lawyers try to snap up male doctors/lawyers because unlike men they aren't prepared to marry someone who earns less than them. Men don't care if she's a doctor/nurse or lawyer/admin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:53 AM
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If you believe that then you should be able to source your claim. But you won't be able to because your claim is the one that is false information. Nowhere in the developed world is it possible for a father to unilaterally relinquish his parental responsibility. This is referred to as Legal Paternal Surrender (LPS) or Paper Abortion and something men's rights advocates have been pushing for without success since The Pill.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 10:39 PM
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You cannot do it at any time. I am not sure why you believe otherwise but it is not correct. Only mothers can relinquish parental responsibility without the agreement of the other parent. Father's have no such right.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 10:22 PM
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This isn't entirely true. You can waive your parental rights and not pay child support. No, you cannot.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 09:29 PM
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It's an unwritten rule. If you pay for your own meal then you are showing that you are not interested. If you don't you are showing you are interested. To do the latter and renege is a shitty thing to do and makes you a cunt. On the other hand to do the former and still have sex makes you a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:45 PM
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/Woosh!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:19 PM
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No one who has even a passing familiarity with the men, often primary care givers, who have their children torn away from them by biased courts could make such an ignorant statement as you have above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 10:27 PM
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If you need someone to explain why that analogy is inapt then you are incapable of understanding the issue you are pontificating on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 10:13 PM
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If you know you are going to get shafted what difference does turning up make?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:51 PM
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That's because only those fathers whose ex's are demonstrably unfit mothers get custody and it isn't worth trying otherwise as the money is better spent on the children than on lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:51 PM
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Found an older case that looked similar from BBC that states "It classes as "false" all reports of rape that were dropped before they reached court, without analysing the reasons why.” Bullshit. EDIT: If it isn't bullshit, source it, but we all know it is bullshit because there has never been an instance of all dropped cases being classed as false accusations in any research, ever.
/r/MensRights14/11/21 10:54 AM
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Different distribution along the Bell Curve means men are more likely to be overrepresented at the top and the bottom of society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 11:51 AM
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I'm not the one proving the other's point here. And you should be able to figure it out for yourself without having to have it explained to you that women face various pressures to conform to expectations that influence how they want to be perceived in terms of how their sexuality functions. One doesn't need to have studied the topic for decades to be aware that what women say they want in terms of their sexuality does not exactly conform with what they actually chose when offered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:44 AM
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Take your first sentence and use it on yourself. Its the opposite way around, men didnt need to cater for women, women had to cater to men. I'm not sure why you believe I might be suggesting otherwise? Both sexes have to appeal to the other in order to attract the most desirable partners. Women weren't allowed to do shit. They needed a man. They were dependent on them. Which is why they used their sexuality to get what they wanted. Just as many do today but some (those OP references) do not. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 06:57 AM
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Being female doesn't give you any particular insight into female sexuality and socialization, peer pressure, culture, ego, etc. all play into disguising elements of it from yourself. One only needs to be aware of the differences between what women tend to say they want and what they actually go for to see how stark the divergence between what individual women believe (or want to present to the world that they believe) and what their sexuality actually is. I hope the irony isn't lost on you that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 06:53 AM
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This would be hilarious if it weren't so sadly misinformed. Men have always catered to women throughout history because we are a hypergamous species. Women have played on that to attract more desirable partners and have been largely successful. Contemporary female sexuality however prevents the historic benefits that women have accrued as men find high body count women untrustworthy and not worth investing resources into. That's why FDS doesn't work, they are shooting themselves in the foot. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:21 PM
3

Many jurisdictions allow "fair use" for such material that has been published if the purposes are to critique the content.
/r/Male_Studies30/10/21 11:22 AM
3

Interesting stuff and not something I recall seeing addressed previously. Also, any chance you might get to Part IV of your personal journey any time soon? I know I can't be alone in wanting to hear more about how you became who you now are (especially as you tell it so well!)
/r/Male_Studies21/10/21 11:14 AM
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Im lifting, giving my best. Other guys come to the gym to socialize. I come to sculpt my body. Im laser focused. I have purpose. I know the things i've been denied my whole life. Other people don't have this privilege. Even though I am smaller than everyone, even though outside gym no one else could tell I lift. I am proud of my hard work. In my mind I'm big, i'm strong, compared to my past self I'm infinitely better. It doesn't matter if others don't know, but I know that and it's enough. You'r…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/21 11:05 AM
2

So no prostitution, no one night stands, no sympathy fucks, no same sex intercourse(!), no recreational sex whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:02 AM
0

From the criminology courses of taken, there’s one thing in particular that I’ve remembered: domestic violence very often leads to a murder; it’s not a question of if, but when. That's insane that they are teaching such nonsense on criminology courses! IPV is massively more commonplace than murder, especially with how broad ranging the definition is these days.
/r/AntiFeminists10/10/21 03:48 PM
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This may sound bizarre, but the conservatives actually believed that the poor were living well while the middle class and wealthy had it terribly. I wouldn't have believed that someone could be so convinced of something that flies in the face of basic facts but there I was seeing it. It does sound bizarre to the point of sounding like a misunderstanding. Could it be that you have interpreted calls for a flatter tax system or something? That aside, I am really glad you are posting this and am enj…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 03:41 AM
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That was Julie Burchill, not Julie Bindel: https://j4mb.org.uk/2015/07/01/julie-burchills-son-commits-suicide/
/r/MensRights07/10/21 09:33 PM
4

Fifth columnist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 10:11 AM
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You forgot the best one, Justin Trudeau saying women don't lie about sexual assault before being accused of sexual assault.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:39 PM
4

Downvoting over there would count as brigading so far as reddit is concerned and that would not be good for sites like this. Besides, I'm quite happy for as many people as possible to see that cesspit of empty-shell's whoring themselves like the callous harpies they are, especially as the advice they offer will never work at attracting the sort of man they'd be actually interested in.
/r/AntiFeminists23/09/21 08:18 PM
4

When I was a kid our school forgot that it had been invited to take part in a netball tournament. A mixed-sex team was quickly roped together for whoever was available including mostly boys who'd never played the game and didn't know the rules. Came dead last. No one minded. It's only when boys win that these hypocrites seem to care.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/09/21 10:26 AM
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Whilst the exact number of false accusations of rape can't ever be truly known, it is almost certainly the overwhelming majority of cases, probably >90%. We know that wrongful convictions occur thanks to schemes like The Innocence Project. We also know that only around 2% of accusations result in a conviction including these wrongful convictions. Therefore we know that convictions occur even in cases where there is no evidence. This suggests that in those cases that do not result in a conviction…
/r/MensRights17/09/21 10:20 PM
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No, you refused the definition, then changed the goal posts of what it means. That is explaining why you were wrong. It's not a fallacy, even in the most strict states you can find a girl to pay for sex. Not if you have no money you can't, or no access to prostitutes and cannot travel. Your ignorance is not an arguement. If only you practised what you preach. So not a single person that's not debilitatingly disabled isn't an incel. Sweet. Or mentally ill, or on the spectrum, or deformed, or has …
/r/MensRights16/09/21 09:54 PM
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I have already covered this. And you were wrong when you did. You can pay to not be celibate. I already explained why this was a fallacy. Not everywhere has state sponsored prostitution like they do in the Netherlands. you need to show you have value, whether that be natural physical attractiveness, competency in a skill, whatever. It is 100% your responsibility. And if you don't have the means or ability to do this, that makes you an incel. Even suggesting they are victims You are the one blami…
/r/MensRights16/09/21 09:14 PM
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You're further demonstrating my point here. What do you think makes a person involuntarily celibate? It is lacking the means to find and retain a partner. Whether this be as a result if physical or neurological disability, no suitable mates in reachable vicinity, a lack of means to attract a mate through inability to work or hold down a job, etc. there will always be people marginalised in the romance stakes who through no fault of their own do not succeed. Suggesting that such individuals lack …
/r/MensRights16/09/21 08:25 PM
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Prostitution certainly isn't always accessible for many whether due to location or finances. The sheer ignorance in presuming /u/DraganTehPro's rebuttal is invalid when it is your own that is invalid speaks to how little understanding of this issue there is even amongst those such as yourself who wrongly believe themselves informed.
/r/MensRights16/09/21 12:43 PM
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The standards are identical. Are they though? Do male leaders have articles written about them promoting their businesses simply because they are male? Are there specialist awards and schemes for men in business? Are men able to apply for male-only funding, sponsorship, support, etc.? The reality is that the standards are not remotely equal and despite this men do better and women do worse: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2016/06/23/the-truth-about-womens-impact-on-corporate-boards-its-…
/r/AntiFeminists16/09/21 11:54 AM
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They are straight.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 07:39 PM
2

It actually makes perfect sense, with the supposed common sense narrative you are referring to merely being one particular agenda. If the data were available I'd share it. Some of Murray Strauss' work is still available online but I'm not sure if he went into this specific an area. Most of the rest simply isn't available any more. It was about 15 years or so ago I remember looking into this and it was all on Google then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:37 PM
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She consented to sex. Placing conditions on it that she finds out after the fact were not met doesn't make it rape no matter how much anyone pretends otherwise any more than the guy was raped if she agreed to get an abortion if there was an unwanted pregnancy and changes her mind or lied about taking her birth control. It's a shitty thing to do but it isn't rape as consent was given at the time for the sex to occur.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 04:34 PM
1

Every study for the last 50 years except for the last few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:31 PM
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Yes. There used to be a lot of data available online showing that men were more likely to be victims of violence as a result of infidelity than women including everything from having their clothes cut up and car vandalized to being slapped and emotionally abused by friends of their partner. Anecdotally it is clear that this is still overwhelmingly the case but the data that demonstrated this has been scrubbed from the net.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:00 PM
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Taking off a condom during sex where the girl requested one worn is akin to rape. No it isn't. Especially if she gets pregnant or an std from the guy. STD's are already covered by assault laws. Men and women should have the same rights when it comes to unwanted pregnancies.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 03:47 PM
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It is widely considered that women and men cheat at approximately the same frequency overall. This is assumed to be due to women's greater opportunity and men's greater opportunity cost. Women are less likely to admit to cheating and at less (not more) risk of violence if they do admit to it. The article looks at those who are caught, which is not the same thing - the author seems not to be aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 03:45 PM
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Meninist is a type of comedian who uses humor to highlight the hypocrisy of feminism when it comes to equal rights. It is not a term to refer to egalitarianism, equality activism or men's rights in any way. The truth is most people are exactly like you, they've been tricked into believing that feminism supports equality when it actually does the opposite, whilst at the same time blind to men's suffering because of cultural and societal attitudes towards men being disposable and their suffering n…
/r/MensRights12/09/21 08:30 PM
1

Not in the UK if a woman is walking up stairs ahead of you in a short skirt or bends over to tie her shoelace.
/r/MensRights10/09/21 11:01 AM
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Most of the time men are willing to take responsibility for someone else's actions.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 05:01 PM
1

Men do complain about the lack of male specific birth control options. But they also get shamed for firing blanks so it is kind of a Catch 22 for them. When they complain about child support for unwanted children it is when their partner has reneged on an agreement not to bring the pregnancy to term in the event of an accidental pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 11:04 PM
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Far, far more likely is that in such jobs men are given the hard work whilst women are not and this is why they gain no benefit.
/r/MensRights31/08/21 09:01 PM
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I didn't see any reference to Emma Sulkowitz (Mattress Girl) or the protests at Toronto University. Also things like this: https://libertydispatch.com/use-mankind-penalized-university-gender-specific/article7006
/r/MensRights31/08/21 08:11 PM
1

Are you familiar with the Sexism Factsheet? It is by no means comprehensive on issues but does provide examples of research demonstrating bias against men.
/r/MensRights31/08/21 06:52 PM
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She comments on the r/mensrights subreddit from time to time and has relaxed her look somewhat since then but she's still just as awesome as ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/21 05:47 PM
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You pretty much hit the nail on the head. And these two links do a pretty good job of explaining how and why this happens.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/21 05:28 PM
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Feminism has had a broadly positive effect on dating for men as sexual liberation benefits men far more than women. Things that have made dating harder for men are online dating (effectively meaning that instead of men competing with each other locally they are competing with the most attractive men regionally) and women's educational attainment and greater earnings before having children (which do stem directly from feminist interference in the educational sector to improve the prospects for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:20 PM
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You got this place going and deserve all the kudos, but I'm pleased that you have two more mods to help you out too and kudos to them too for supporting this expansion in number as well. The posts here may not generate as much conversation as on some other subreddits because most of the people who visit here already understand the context but it is still a fantastic resource and I enjoy reading (and occasionally participating in) all that is posted here.
/r/Male_Studies28/08/21 08:12 PM
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Looks may be the most important thing to men and only the fifth most important thing to women, but women care about the fifth most important thing to them a lot more than men care about the most important thing to men.
/r/AntiFeminists27/08/21 08:41 PM
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I remember when this data was originally done, those answering that they would would only do this if there were no consequences (which inherently includes for the 'victim' - in other words to know what it felt like without it ever having happened): https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/third-male-university-students-say-they-would-rape-woman-if-there-no-were-no-consequences-9978052.html
/r/MensRights24/08/21 12:36 PM
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He was so obviously referring to when Caine made the mistake, this "journalist" has an ego significantly larger than her brain.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/21 07:59 PM
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You aren't listening and seem incapable of understanding. You are continuing to misrepresent what I am saying and arguing against a straw man of your own construction. I see no further point to this conversation as I would only be repeating what I've already said until you address it rather than continue pretending I said something else.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:43 PM
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Is English not your first language? I am explaining why a fact is a fact and not an opinion.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 12:24 PM
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I'm not saying that false accusations are but a problem but are you seriously saying that there are more (massively more even) false accusations than real ones? I'm not saying that there are massively more false accusations than real ones, I'm explaining why there are massively more false accusations than real ones. I'm sorry that you have been so badly hurt :( I haven't been, I am just able to look at the issue objectively outside of the narrative frame you are unable to look beyond.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 11:45 AM
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You had already stated your conclusion was/is that 98% of no verdict cases were likely false. Do you not know what statistical likelihood is? A likelihood function isn't a determination of what is, it is a determination of how well a model fits data when the available data is incomplete. Based on the data we have the statistical likelihood is that the overwhelming majority of rape accusations made are false. With approximately 0.5% resulting in conviction after appeals are exhausted and convicti…
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:23 AM
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it felt like you were jumping from a statement I can agree with- some cases are prosecuted without evidence - to a conclusion I can't Only because you ignored the conclusion and substituted your own which was nothing like mine! What does more evidence that a claim is false than true mean? Evidence the accused was not in the area that night? Or just evidence that they went to bed together with no evidence what then happened? How is that substantially different from a lack of evidence? Obviously i…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 10:42 PM
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Whilst the real number can never be known it is as certain as it can be without knowing the real number that false accusations are common, and probably massively more so than truthful accusations.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 09:45 PM
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You seem adamant that a lack of evidence = false accusation. No I do not and you haven't understood things at all if you still think this. As I have already explained, cases are routinely successfully prosecuted with no evidence. Lack of evidence does not mean a false accusation. However, lack of a prosecution means not just no evidence but more evidence that the claim is false than true. That some cases are prosecuted on he said/ she said does not mean that they all are. That's a big leap. No o…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 09:35 PM
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Just because some false claims are wrongfully found true that doesn't mean all claims with less evidence than those cases are also false. Correct, but it does make it significantly more likely. With the cases that dont reach court I think you are taking 'lack of evidence' as 'evidence of false claim.' No. For a case not to make it to court there needs to be more evidence that it is a false claim than not. Cases with no evidence routinely result in convictions even when six figure sums are spent …
/r/MensRights20/08/21 08:19 PM
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https://avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/ten-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common/ http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0109/np010908.htm
/r/MensRights20/08/21 02:04 AM
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Whilst the actual number of false accusations made will always be a grey number the reality is that there is plentiful data for us to be able to make informed extrapolations as to the likely rate of false accusations made. For example, we know that false convictions occur from cases like those of Brian Banks, Ched Evans and the work of The Innocence Project. Looking at the evidence needed to obtain even a wrongful conviction indicates that in those cases where a conviction (e.g. in the Ched Evan…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 02:03 AM
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"...more likely to lie and cheat for material gain and denigrate others as a means to get ahead."
/r/AntiFeminists18/08/21 07:02 PM
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Glad you managed to procure some good mods that RES tells me have contributed constructively elsewhere. FYI, only one of the new mods is showing up in the mods list as of yet though.
/r/Male_Studies17/08/21 09:26 AM
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The answer is obvious, because it pins down the man. Women want men to commit to them so that they are still provided for when they are no longer young and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 10:32 AM
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Not sure why you think that it not going into more detail equates to ignoring but suffice to say it doesn't. And behaving and being seen to be treated like a movie star is more important than looking like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 10:25 PM
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I haven't been wrong. The only one here wrong is you mistaking an analogy for fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:10 PM
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despite new research stating they're wrong. No such research exists. Stop being wrong. Physician, heal thyself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:43 PM
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Satire or documentary?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:42 PM
4

I was hoping someone would make that claim so I could point out that it isn't a No True Scotsman. 2+2=4 is correct, 2+2=(anything other than 4) is incorrect. Claiming the No True Scotsman here is like claiming the same for the latter sum above, you're just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:30 PM
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af/bb or afc AF/BB = Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks: Attraction based on appearance or ability as a provider. AFC = Average Frustrated Chump: A guy who doesn't understand why doing what women claim they want a man to do doesn't result in success with said women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:33 PM
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No idea what AFC is, though. Average Frustrated Chump
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:32 PM
4

Projection again? TRP is about what works. If it doesn't work it is necessarily not TRP. If you think what you wrote somehow applies to what I wrote do feel free to attempt to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:28 PM
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And what do women actually find attractive? Traits that denote status. These can (but do not necessarily) include signifiers associated with that status ranging from height to stoicism to dark triad traits. The only thing TRP knows women find attractive is attractiveness. But what is attractiveness? Anyone who thinks it is solely looks is as naive as you are because men are assessed on a plethora of other criteria associated with status including wealth, fame, talent, regard, confidence, etc. Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:53 PM
2

You are reaching so far here you are embarrassing yourself. I've told you what the difference is between the TRP view and the medical theory. They are not the same thing. At all. Pretending that TRP thinks they are the same thing just makes you look like you don't understand what you are talking about - which you necessarily don't if you are equating these two entirely separate and unrelated issues that happen to share the same term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:46 PM
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TRP references research on the dual mating hypothesis often, which is exactly this. This is what the dual mating hypothesis is - always has been. No, not at all. TRP references to dual mating strategy are what I have pointed out to you twice now. They have literally nothing to do with fertility cycles. They are about obtaining the best genetics, for offspring, and the best means, for provision for those offspring. The fact that TRP has cherry picked what it means so much that it has filtered dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:58 PM
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You seem to be conflating the TRP definition with the definition you've posted above when they refer to entirely different and distinct things. TRP references to dual mating strategy refer to AF/BB and are entirely unrelated to fertility cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:39 PM
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The "Red Pill" is "What do women actually find attractive?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:26 PM
3

per the dual mating hypothesis and past research we should expect differential odor sensitivity during periods of fertility. The dual mating hypothesis has nothing to do with fertility cycles. It is that different traits are looked for in terms of replication and caregiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:13 PM
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These are necessarily estimates based on self-reporting. The true number can never be known. There may be people in these studies who don't admit it to the researcher or don't even realise what happened to them and there may be others that make it up to the researcher. Take all such data with a pinch of salt and use reasoning to take account of social factors that influence such reporting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 04:50 PM
2

(Unless you count criticizing feminism as misogyny, but that's ridiculous.) Honestly, that is the closest I saw to misogyny there in the brief time I looked. But the issue isn't whether here or there is misogynistic but whether here will be banned even if it isn't misogynistic and on the brief evidence I saw it looks to be irrelevant whether there is any actual misogyny or not for a subreddit to get banned, it simply has to be critical of feminism to be labelled misogynistic (even though I agree…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 10:27 PM
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No worries!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 07:18 PM
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Doing it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:01 PM
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Ah, apologies for any confusion. OP said: Therefore, because of these factors and the fact that you need some type of physical attraction for the relationship to be romantic instead of platonic, it will be harder for men to get in relationships if they don't fit these societal norms. I said: Looks are not number one on that list but they are important and unless the guy is at least equal to her in terms of appearance he must excel in other ways such as fame, wealth, etc. We are agreeing that loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:58 PM
1

I think you replied to the wrong comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:14 PM
2

The issue I am addressing is that based on reddit's actions, not having anything ban-worthy here may not make any difference to whether here is banned or not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 04:03 PM
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He's very much the "you have to hear both sides of the story" type of person. So unlike OP actually wants to understand whatever he is pontificating on? Today, I shared a relationship advice post with him about a 25 year old woman married for 6 years to a now 40 year old man, so married when she was 19 and he was 36 Her mathematical ability is as solid as her logic. I just don't want to be with someone who won't believe a woman until they hear what a man has to say. Bullet dodged by that guy. Ed…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 09:31 PM
2

I have vowed to make as much $$ as possible to prevent such from happening again. Yeah, that's not gonna work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:37 PM
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OP said: Therefore, because of these factors and the fact that you need some type of physical attraction for the relationship to be romantic instead of platonic, it will be harder for men to get in relationships if they don't fit these societal norms. I said: Looks are not number one on that list but they are important and unless the guy is at least equal to her in terms of appearance he must excel in other ways such as fame, wealth, etc. We are agreeing that looks matter but disagreeing about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 08:20 PM
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There is a documentary about it on YouTube. I'll see if I can find it for you... Edit: I think this is it- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEgQiqL8TCk
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:44 PM
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And they are a vocal minority IIRC the Harvard Implicit Association Test found that >95% held such views. Whilst the minority might be vocal, it is not a minority view at all.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:36 PM
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r/misandry was banned: This subreddit was banned due to a violation of Reddit’s content policy against creating or repurposing a sub to reconstitute or serve the same objective as a previously banned or quarantined subreddit. Banned 2 hours ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 09:55 PM
2

I would but your mod requirements are too onerous and discourage me from applying 😉
/r/Male_Studies04/08/21 12:09 PM
1

I suspect that your mod requirements may be too onerous and are discouraging people from applying.
/r/Male_Studies03/08/21 10:20 PM
0

is FDS simply the natural balance to TRP ? No. FDS is what those advocating it want to be true but it is not true. TRP is what those advocating it don't want to be true but is. FDS is an extreme form of what has actually traditionally worked for women, so extreme that it prices those practising it out of the market and instead into what is de facto sex work. TRP is simply using the signifiers that trigger the same receptors that FDS attempts to screen for to bypass the screening FDS dishonestly …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:30 PM
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Most guys don't have $20,000 laying around to fund a decent lawyer in that situation (which she should absolutely have to pay him back for). And without the CCTV footage I don't think there can be much doubt that he'd have been wrongly convicted. Makes you wonder how many other cases were false accusations, especially as those convicted are used to inflate statistics to show how prevalent this is when that might not be the case at all.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 12:47 PM
1

That's already been addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:56 PM
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The joke about The Husband Store explains this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:57 PM
1

No one is confident it is true. This analysis is just explaining what it means if the assumption is true or if it isn't true.
/r/MensRights25/07/21 02:18 PM
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You're missing the point. The point isn't that the assumption is true or not, it is about what a calculation based on the assumption tells us. If we assume that black college men are 100 times more likely to rape than white college men then the calculation shows us a plethora of false accusations against white college men. It isn't about what the real number or ratio is, it is about what the extrapolation can tell us.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 10:54 PM
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Funnily enough I made this exact same point elsewhere in this thread. But I just wanted to explain the 95% figure you were asking about and probably ended up going on far more than I needed to knowing me!
/r/MensRights24/07/21 10:46 PM
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This is a really good analysis and you are definitely on to something here. That said, lifestyles, culture, the number of sexual partners athletes as opposed to nerds get, etc. can all go a significant way to explaining the discrepancy, just as the earnings gap evaporates if you take account of different choices men and women make. It may be that black college males are just having much more drunk sex, selecting less stable partners, etc. too. I've no doubt whatsoever that the false accusation r…
/r/MensRights24/07/21 10:33 PM
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How do we know 95% are false? We can't know the exact number of false accusations, that will always be a grey number, but we can make inferences from the data we do have that provide indications of likelihood and that is what /u/DavidByron2 has done in the OP above. Looking at the mathematical analysis OP explains the possible explanations for the figures which vary from at one end black people are 22.8 times more likely to rape women at college to at the other end all accusations made against b…
/r/MensRights24/07/21 10:06 PM
2

Whilst I'm hardly a regular I do frequent this sub and have never even noticed feminists posting here. Unless downvoting becomes a problem I think it is a positive that they contribute and get the opportunity to hear why others disagree. Most feminists simply have no idea what antifeminism and think it is just another word for misogyny rather than an egalitarian position that admonishes the hypocrisy of feminism claiming to be egalitarian whilst doing the opposite.
/r/AntiFeminists24/07/21 09:29 PM
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What people say they want is different to what people think they want. What people think they want is different to what they actually want. It's all just part of The Games People Play.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:52 PM
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It isn't remotely true, but what is true is that some men take advantage of politeness to test the waters romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 10:29 PM
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Their allegations of misogyny are mostly because they confuse our criticism of feminism with hating women. They don't though. They aren't confused at all, they know they are wrong and are saying it anyway. Gaslighting and bad faith is the hallmark of that subreddit. Pure unadulterated victim-blaming lunacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 06:02 PM
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There are bad people all across the political spectrum. But it takes a special kind of nastiness and hypocrisy to use racism against one skin color whilst claiming to be against it for others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/21 11:07 AM
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I have seen antifem groups who really seemed to just want to hate on woman Would you mind me asking who you're referring to there?
/r/AntiFeminists17/07/21 05:25 PM
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Honestly, what you've said is just nonsense. Negging is simply a type of flirting with teasing that works. Dread is just demonstrating you are worth putting the effort to maintain a relationship for. There is no getting anyone under a guys thumb, that is just projection based on how FDS types think, game is about creating a successful sexual dynamic (and TRP is about creating and maintaining attraction). This isn't game playing, it is putting effort into making the attraction in a relationship l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:07 PM
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I already have. Read the rest of the thread.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 03:13 PM
1

Whilst the motives may be different why wouldn't men also about rape?
/r/MensRights13/07/21 03:07 PM
14

None of what you linked remotely suggest it is a hate sub.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 03:05 PM
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That means prosecutors are only choosing slam dunks for false allegations and they are willing to choose rape cases that are more questionable. It doesn't prove anything that you said is true. It does however make it more likely that what /u/furchfur said is true. If you want to be exactly like feminists and just assume the vast majority of women are lying without any proof, that's fine. There is proof though. Overwhelming proof in fact. Despite <5% of accusations making it to court and barely o…
/r/MensRights13/07/21 03:04 PM
3

That depends on the study but it is where the 2% figure comes from.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 03:01 PM
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'Most women are lying about being raped' is not something people say when they want mens rights. It's what people say when they hate women. It is what people say when they take account of the evidence and has nothing to do with hating anyone. Not speaking the truth because it is politically incorrect and therefore embarrassing is morally wrong.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 02:59 PM
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they will not be a majority They almost certainly are a massive majority. When you look at how little evidence is required for a conviction in relation to how many accusations are made. And again at how many of these convictions are later overturned. It is virtually impossible that <50% of accusations are false with the true number likely being far, far higher. Whilst the real number can never be known, taking into account cases like those of Ched Evans and Brian Banks, I would not be at all sur…
/r/MensRights13/07/21 02:57 PM
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It is rigged because it is rigged. People like me understand how it is rigged so can work it to our advantage. That doesn't stop it being rigged though and I'll listen to anyone that knows more than me but as of yet there isn't anybody that does. There are increasing numbers who know the same however.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:10 PM
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Well, no, that assumes an equal playing field rather than the rigged game that we actually have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:11 PM
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I work in a place where my public opinion has the potential to cost me my job. Most do which is how the malign prevent those of us who care about equality from being able to support it, through the threat of career ending retribution of politically incorrect opinions. The best most of us can manage is educating those who are willing to hear it on anonymous Internet fora. And that's better than nothing and not to be sniffed at. But support and encouragement for those who've taken the plunge and b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/21 02:48 PM
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I realised that all this truly highlights is that people actually care and worry about women’s safety, and feel comfortable asking them about it. It isn’t evidence of danger, feeling unsafe doesn’t mean you are unsafe. It’s evidence of care. Care that people don’t have for men. Society only cares about one of the sexes. Always has, always will. The best you can hope for if you aren't the privileged sex is that individuals who know you care about you because society doesn't and won't.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 05:20 PM
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The real beauty of this is that she was filming it thinking that she was somehow morally right.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/07/21 12:17 PM
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This is simply not true. It is just a reference to the overt and openly stated practices of the Frankfurt School, specifically political correctness, critical theory and The Long March Through The Institutions. Those pretending it is a Nazi conspiracy theory are either liars trying to hide the truth or useful idiots taken in by their lies because they are so gullible. There is nothing far-right nor antisemitic about it, although ironically the antisemitism label does come from the similarities w…
/r/MensRights01/07/21 11:44 AM
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Why?
/r/MensRights01/07/21 11:39 AM
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Like I said before, you are deranged.
/r/MensRights29/06/21 09:42 PM
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women legit did not have equality at first Indeed, they had a massively privileged trade off of not having to do the dirty and dangerous work, selective service, accountability for their debts, etc. for the cost of having to exercise their influence through soft power rather than directly, a minor inconvenience at best. how exactly did I move the goalposts? You wrote: most housewives were pumped with so many antidepressants they were damn near retarded because they all hated their lives And are …
/r/MensRights29/06/21 06:34 PM
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Everyone can see you moving the goalposts.
/r/MensRights29/06/21 06:04 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Has everyone else gone to crazytown? Definitely a courgette, not a cucumber! Why is everyone ignoring this egregious misrepresentation!
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/21 12:30 PM
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there isn’t any inherent reason it has to be that way There is a huge biological reason it has to be this way and that is that one man can impregnate thousands of women in nine months whereas a woman can only be impregnated by one guy in nine months. That kind of evolutionary conditioning is hard-coded into our DNA and if ever we lost it we'd die out as a species. I don’t know how many women realize just how stressful it is. Perhaps not many but there are also women who don't get people being th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 12:04 PM
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Not at all. I think you are deranged and need help because you wrote with apparent sincerity: most housewives were pumped with so many antidepressants they were damn near retarded because they all hated their lives
/r/MensRights27/06/21 10:50 PM
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Seek help.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 04:28 PM
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If you think that diatribe proved your point you're even more deranged than I thought.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 12:44 PM
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Honestly, there are an awful lot of bad people who support feminism and think that because they support feminism those who don't must be bad guys. They never bother to find out who is right, what is right, why disagreements exist and the best impact you can hope to make is that they go away believing that there are one or two exceptions to all MRAs are misogynistic women haters who want to take away women's rights and have them barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Think of them as religious zea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 05:21 PM
1

You are deranged.
/r/MensRights26/06/21 12:49 PM
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If you think there is anything remotely gone about what I wrote then you simply haven't understood the subject you are pontificating on at all.
/r/MensRights26/06/21 12:41 PM
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Prior to feminism women were privileged members of society. They could not be conscripted, were not required or expected to accept dangerous work or jobs, were legally required to be supported by their partners, were not held responsible for debts they incurred, etc. all whilst still being able to exert power and influence through soft channels, controlling the majority of spending decisions, being given default respect, etc. There were trade offs for this privilege but make no mistake it absolu…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:26 PM
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I'm talking about sexual assault in terms of catcalling, leering, masturbating publicly, sexual threats, harassment, peeping and other activities. How often is catcalling occurring and how often is it actually unwelcome? Leering isn't harassment. Masturbating publicly is remarkably rare and the two sexes are treated very differently for it. Sexual threats are a criminal act and also uncommon. Peeping is illegal too and few want to get caught even if they were so inclined so it is also rare. Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 01:59 PM
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Is getting hit on at the gym sexual harassment? Or approached in the street? It isn't. Only by including approaches from the sex that is compelled to do the approaching by virtue of being the selectee as opposed to the selector is it possible to conclude women face more. The reality is the opposite as women get away with far more than men would ever dream of doing by virtue of being the selector rather than the selectee. And there's the rub, for men who overall are so starved of the desire they …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 01:34 PM
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Yes. It just isn't always recognised as such by society, sometimes the individuals involved and the police/law. If men did to women what women do to men on Saturday night's in cities across the globe there would be carnage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 12:29 PM
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Ignore the advice from teenagers here who understand nothing about branch swinging or the tingles and decide what you want. You know how TRP works and know that you've been neglectful and allowed her to slack off too if she is 100 lbs overweight. That's on you. She absolutely can leave you now and if you are the breadwinner you'll have to pay her for the privilege with probably more than half your income and assets as well as losing access to your kids. The way to nix this is to be the guy she g…
/r/askTRP20/06/21 11:05 AM
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You've just demonstrated my point - misunderstanding between what was being said and what you are interpreting it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:12 PM
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First of all I disagree to some degree with basically every Red Piller, often they are either hypocrites "I don't want to marry, but every women should marry" or they are claiming that everybody must marry and get children. This has nothing to do with The Red Pill, nor does every Red Piller think this. Here one guy I tend to like just spits out that "only 1 out of 4 black women get married" This seems like a misinterpretation of the single motherhood statistics amongst black women. How can peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:32 PM
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As the subthread demonstrates it isn't just women, it is menslib types too. Framing it as women versus men when it is actually feminists versus men (and women who support men) plays into their narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 11:00 AM
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I had no idea this was an actual spelling error rather than just a typo. You learn something new every day.
/r/MensRights18/06/21 02:38 PM
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Depends on local laws: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5002822/Ex-policemen-jailed-filming-sex-7-women.html
/r/askTRP17/06/21 03:17 PM
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That was just embarrassing. The host had no idea how little he knew and seemed entirely aware that he was trying to disguise that by firstly asking the caller for an example and then denying the caller the validity of that example because it didn't apply in the USA despite it being perfectly valid globally whilst simultaneously arguing hypocritically that globally women's rights were worse without giving an example, let alone one that was valid by the hosts own criteria. Bad faith and ignorance …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/21 02:48 PM
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You used the /s tag but sadly it isn't sarcasm, it is real.
/r/MensRights16/06/21 10:43 PM
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I am glad to be the bearer of good tidings if you are feeling as you are in that case. Whilst on the one hand you are right that society doesn't care about men due to the inherent out-group and in-group bias each of the sexes have, we are increasingly finding that women are being outspoken about the injustices men face and they do get listened to by society, especially if they frame the discussion in terms of how men's injustices impact them as women. Because society absolutely does care about w…
/r/MensRights16/06/21 02:41 PM
2

CAD 6 Million payout for a GIRLFRIEND he NEVER LIVED WITH.
/r/askTRP13/06/21 05:53 PM
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Muslim isn't a race and Muslim men can be and are falseley accused too even if elsewhere rape gangs are still operating in British cities.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 05:12 PM
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The accuser has no say in whether the CPS decides to proceed to charge, but frequently they are unwilling to provide evidence such as their phone records and this means there is insufficient evidence to prosecute (or rather even a half competent defence should be able to obtain a not guilty verdict). Whether the reason women don't want to hand over their phone is because it will come out that they were lying or they care more about getting a new sim card and handset than prosecuting the person w…
/r/MensRights13/06/21 03:47 PM
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This isn't a racial issue, men of all races are falsely accused.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 03:43 PM
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the new leadership is prosecuting cases with evidence a crime was comitted. It would be more accurate to say that the new leadership is prosecuting cases where there isn't exonerating evidence rather than "where there is evidence". He-said-she-said is sufficient evidence to obtain a conviction and cases like that of Ched Evans resulted in a conviction on even less evidence than that. It is that so many accusations have proof that a rape wasn't committed that so few cases are being brought forwar…
/r/MensRights13/06/21 03:42 PM
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Girls always have an interest in playing hard to get. That is their default and what gives them power in the sexual marketplace. If you think of this as a turn off then you are doing something wrong as all women will do it (or try to) as it is simply how women are naturally predispositioned to behave.
/r/askTRP12/06/21 04:38 PM
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You had me up until: The fact that many men bail on their kids Very few men bail on their kids. Women are much more likely to end relationships where there are children involved. Having talked to many men and women in the 25-35 age range it seems to me that women are more willing to settle down and have kids than men. Of course, they get alimony, child support, default custody, the house, the car, etc. so there is little risk to them if they settle down. Men on the other hand have to pay someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:23 PM
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Complaining about “being used for sex” sounds to my ears like complaining about a friend “using you to hang out with” or “using you to watch a movie or play video games with” or “using you” for any other fun activity. How tf do you “get used” for a fun thing? Like if the friend orders the most expensive thing on the menu but says everyone should put in an equal share when it comes to the bill. Or needs picking up but doesn't chip in for gas. Or says they'll be there at 7pm but doesn't turn up un…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:47 PM
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In OP's scenario, the man approaches the woman and the woman doesn't know if the guy wants a relationship or a one night stand. Assuming she wants a relationship and the guy says he does to, why wait for sex? Because the guy might be lying about his intention in order to obtain a one night stand. That is the false pretence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:46 PM
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That's not a straw man though it is shorthand for the sorts of feminists who are man-haters. No MRA would say that self-identifying feminists like Christian Hoff-Sommers or Wendy McElroy are man hating feminists, for example. It is just the definition of the term they are using doesn't include such individuals. That is a semantic issue, not a straw man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 07:22 PM
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I'd argue that I'm giving people less credit by saying they have bad intentions. And they do have bad intentions because otherwise they'd want to clarify what they are attacking before they attack it. Not doing so demonstrates the bad intentions. So I understand your point but don't think the same criticism is valid at all when flipped around because the MRM doesn't attack straw men feminism whereas feminism does attack straw man men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 03:39 PM
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Why would someone completely misrepresent our beliefs, goals or practices? Because they are bad people with bad intentions. They aren't interested in the actual views of the other side of the argument, they are only interested in undermining or cancelling anything that doesn't conform to their existing prejudices. Anything else would be too uncomfortable for them in terms of cognitive dissonance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 12:10 PM
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Wasn't me but could well be for this: I confronted them with basic Wikipedia source citing credible studies that show that false rape accusation are between 2% and 10%. Which is not "extremely rare" at all. 2%-10% is the absolute minimum provable number of false accusations. When we consider that wrongful convictions occur sometimes on nothing more than he-said-she-said evidence, the real number is necessarily magnitudes higher and almost certainly the overwhelming majority of claims made. This …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 09:51 PM
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In the UK the police literally blur out the faces of those captured on CCTV committing crimes when releasing footage asking for witnesses.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 08:31 PM
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You can guarantee that if this was the law there would never be another successful false accusation prosecution.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 08:30 PM
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Well, assuming you are trying to convince people, just ensure that the tone throughout is objective rather than emotive. This is too easy a subject to become emotive over and whilst that will convince many, when you are citing sources it is better to be factual, logical and detached.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 12:50 PM
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Just be dispassionate. "Critiquing" rather than "attacking, for example, or: Feminists respond that "But more men are CEOs and engineers!" feminists will say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 11:53 AM
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If there is one thing that history has taught us it is that society only cares about women's suffering. These issues of gross injustice will never be taken seriously so long as men are reporting on them, only when women are sharing how they've suffered as a result is there any chance of these matters ever getting addressed. Female allies are the best chance of advancing equality but they are also the worst treated by the powers that be, the sexual equivalent of being treated as Uncle Tom's, an o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 08:20 AM
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"Men historically put womens interests ahead of mens"? I can't think of many instances in history where men put women first. Demonstrating your ignorance isn't an argument, it is just demonstrating your ignorance. Your problem is your faith-based assumptions are faulty. Once you realise that men have always sacrificed themselves for women throughout history then you will begin to understand why you are wrong. You call me all these names and call me biased I haven't called you names, I've just ex…
/r/MensRights06/06/21 01:03 PM
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If your argument is factual then you'd provide facts My argument was logical, so I supplied logic. I shouldn't be surprised that you haven't understood that. To say that women were not oppressed in the 50s and beyond ignores large chunks of US history. No it doesn't, it just explains what happened in a way that doesn't fit your faulty narrative. Black women throughout much of US history knowing that if raped by a black man they'd get likely get no just ice is a clear and factual example of the o…
/r/MensRights06/06/21 12:55 PM
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Why do you think it is ridiculous that being forced to die in exchange for the right to vote (and being expected to do so on behalf of another demographic's interest) is oppression, and not being forced to die is not? This is an irrefutable example. One group is being oppressed, the other group is being protected from that oppression by the sacrifice of the first group.
/r/MensRights05/06/21 09:16 PM
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There is nothing absurd about it and if you weren't being wilfully dense you wouldn't need me to explain to you that being conscripted to fight and die as the price for voting - which men did on behalf of women's interests - was the only oppression in the scenario you've described and pretending otherwise whilst attempting to look down your nose at those explaining with an irrefutable example why you aren't just wrong but stark, raving, wrong makes you a not just conceited and arrogant, but conc…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 08:14 PM
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You are blind. And ignorant too. Men have an out-group bias towards women. When they are in positions of power they use it to advocate women's interests. Women have an in-group bias towards women. They project their in-group bias onto men and wrongly assume that men aren't doing enough for women's rights despite men historically putting women's interests ahead of men's interests. Feminists look at history without understanding this and attempt to rewrite it to paint privilege women have historic…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 07:35 PM
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No, they wanted to be able to CHOOSE their life path. Men couldn't choose whether to be drafted or not. You lack the intelligence to realise that ensuring needs are met isn't oppression, it is the cost of getting the outcomes you want. It has never been a two way street, it has always been a pyramid with the rich at the top, women in the middle and men at the bottom. Stop embarrassing yourself and at least get informed about where men's rights differs from feminism as at the moment you don't eve…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 07:31 PM
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You are an idiot looking at history through rose-tinted glasses. Jobs weren't rewarding, they were stressful and dangerous. The reward men got from them was being able to provide for their families and the camaraderie of sacrifice combined with teamwork. Feminists wanted all of the positives but not just none of the negatives but men to carry what would have been their negatives, which is precisely what happened. Dismissing those pointing out your rudimentary errors as incels is as misplaced as …
/r/MensRights05/06/21 07:25 PM
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You are wrong. Men were oppressed so women wouldn't be. Sometimes that privilege meant being discouraged from certain things that women would have preferred to become involved with but it all served the purpose of privileging women by forcing men to work so women wouldn't have to. Attempting to pain that privilege as oppression is why feminists have so badly misunderstood history and strive for inequality at the expense of equality to right misperceived former wrongs. There really is no excuse f…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 07:11 PM
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Factually speaking they were not. In the 50s women were not oppressed by being denied certain work, men were oppressed by being required to work on behalf of women. I won't even dignify your equivalence of racism and sexism with a To Kill A Mocking Bird reference. And you are wrong about alimony and child support laws being good in theory too when they incentivize divorce, lying about birth control and manipulation that would be deemed abusive if the sexes were reversed. Basically every single t…
/r/MensRights05/06/21 07:07 PM
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In the developed world voting rights were virtually always contingent on conscription. Being immune to conscription was the opposite of being oppressed.
/r/MensRights05/06/21 07:02 PM
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Either you addressed this to the wrong person or it applies more to yourself as 70 years ago was between WWII and Korea both of which men were drafted for and died in but not women.
/r/MensRights05/06/21 07:00 PM
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It's actually good reddiquette to post the u/ or r/ and I'm hopeful that not even the biased reddit admins could pretend the above is a call for brigading (although I wouldn't put it past some of them)!
/r/MensRights02/06/21 07:45 PM
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You put the hyphen in the wrong place, bot.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 06:41 PM
2

No country on Earth bans circumcision of boys. It is legal in both Latvia and South Africa.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 06:24 PM
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I live in a country where circumcision is illegal on minors No you do not. There is no such country. Circumcision on boys is unfortunately not illegal in any country in the world. Also you are right, ear mutilation isn't like genital mutilation... It's on another part of the body. It's also a piercing rather than lopping part of the body off. You seem to have ignored that pretty major difference.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 06:23 PM
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You are incorrect and /u/omidoggo is not being hateful. Selling your body is an option that is available to young women in a way that it isn't to young men. This is a big privilege. And many women do post nudes for free, you don't need to be aware of the existence of subreddits like /r/gonewild to be aware that it isn't remotely dumb to say that some choose to do this. The one here with issues is you with your backwards and insulting white-knight attitudes about women and sex work.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 05:26 PM
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if I don't treat gender as something important, why would I make different requirements for men and women? For the same reason everyone else does. Because different traits make either sex appealing. Can you find stats for that? They are in the article I linked and any primer on marketing, but even your own monthly expenditure should demonstrate where the money goes. Out of curiosity does your husband out-earn you? That's their choice, they still spend their own money. Hardly a choice if it is ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:56 AM
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I've said that I'm demisexual, haven't I? Gender isn't that important. I understood demisexual to mean you required an emotional connection for physical intimacy? That doesn't appear to have a bearing on whether your requirements to establish an emotional connection for the sexes are different. And...proofs that women really spend more not because they do shopping for whole families? Because mathematics? Family groceries and such account for only a small percentage of overall spending with thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:52 PM
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Yes, I'm married to a man, but when I was single I was open to date both genders, I wasn't favoring men in this regard at all. I've never met a bi person of either sex who has had the same criteria for dating either gender, not least of all because of sexual marketplace demand and supply. That's not really a proof. We also have zero waste and minimalist lifestyles that are quire popular among women. And there are areas where men tend to spend more. Cars and gadgets are the first things that come…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:49 PM
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I think even if there's a lack of options, it's still okay to have standards if you're also ready to stay single. And these requirements aren't just for a male partners, they're genderless. I'm equally interested in dating men and women. Hypergamy isn't a thing in homosexual relationships. And didn't you say you married a guy? Are there any proofs to it? The existence of the fashion and lifestyle industries. Hello, traditional gender roles and men being less involved in domestic chores and child…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 04:12 PM
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Why? Plus, I'm bi, so does it make it reasonable? Because there aren't enough college educated men to satisfy the partnership requirements of college educated women. I'm not sure how you being bi factors in to the requirements of a male partner? And men who mock being into makeup. That's not remotely the same and certainly not looked down on even if it is teased about. It's great to listen to him talking about them though and watching music videos with him anyway. I partially get the excitement …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 07:43 PM
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What? Are you talking about rates of graduates? Yes. I want someone who is on my level That in itself is unreasonable based on graduation rates. similar plans aren't just about education or career, it's also about moving or not, preferring living in suburbs on in the city, having kids or not etc. Of course, but there is inevitably an element of aspiration here. Not what "she approves", but what we can enjoy doing together. My husband and I play some video games together for example. That's great…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:20 PM
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Forgiven!
/r/MensRights28/05/21 02:23 PM
1

You couldn't be more incorrect. It's even a meme.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 02:09 PM
2

They don’t realise that in person flirting is dying because the line between being a charming harmless guy and a perverted sex creep are being blurred Exactly.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 02:07 PM
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Try it and see how many you think don't have terrible personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:21 PM
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You asked where all the men with terrible personalities that women talk about were - this would enable you to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:14 PM
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And the list goes on, but my thing is where are these guys with such horrendous personalities honestly ? Create a fake female profile on social media and indicate that you are looking for a hook up and they'll come to you in such droves you won't believe there are so many!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:08 PM
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Let's work through it: Similar values (no homophobe/misogynist/pro-lifer/racist/deeply religious etc, cares about environment) Broadly reasonable but it depends on the extent to which these are pushed e.g. "Cares about the environment" can mean anything from no littering to must be vegan and recycle religiously. Clean criminal records Giving the benefit of the doubt that this means "No thugs" rather than no citations whatsoever this doesn't seem unreasonable. Similar plans/inspirations Hypergamy…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:46 PM
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I was wondering, what more can we do to combat this notion? Nothing. The notion doesn't exist because it has any validity, it exists because they want to tarnish the views expressed here and are prepared to lie to do so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/21 12:22 PM
1

Just be aware that your username begins with the Chanty Binx nickname so some people may judge you for that!
/r/MensRights22/05/21 08:21 PM
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Thanks for explaining what I was trying to say more clearly. it often helps understanding to provide a personal example rather than to speak in the abstract.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 08:11 PM
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Better to be better educated than look like a stick in the mud. If only there were more feminists who thought like you did - there wouldn't be any anti-feminism! Thanks for educating me, and speaking to me with respect. I love conversations like this. Respectfully, we've really only scratched the surface here and addressed the 'what' rather than the 'why' so I appreciate your kind words as I'm not sure I warrant them with the limited explanations I've proffered so far. But your willingness to li…
/r/MensRights22/05/21 08:09 PM
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Warren Farrell is a lifelong feminist and the only man ever elected to director of the National Organization of Women. If you don't know this, I don't know what to tell you. And if you think my sentences were long then you aren't qualified to have an opinion on this subject.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 08:05 PM
6

If a couple of paragraphs is too much for you and you're projecting your social inadequacies so blatantly that certainly explains a great deal about your contributions in this thread.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 07:30 PM
4

There is nothing wrong with women's advocacy. It isn't inherently a bad thing. The problem is that it gets pushed as a solution to inequality when advancing women's interests when despite popular belief they already as a group identity possess overwhelming privilege actually makes things far less equal. By painting society as patriarchal feminism has managed to fool people that advancing the interests of women makes things more equal. But the reality is that women have had better quality of life…
/r/MensRights22/05/21 07:20 PM
7

Jeez man, if you can't see that's a bad take, you've got some problems. It isn't a bad take and I'm not the one with the problems in this equation. He's said plenty of other messed up shit in the past too. No he hasn't. Anyone can call themselves a feminist I legitimately cannot believe you actually buy that bullshit, come on, you're not that thick-skulled. Not anyone can be the only man elected to director of the National Organization for Women though like Farrell was. So the only one buying bu…
/r/MensRights22/05/21 07:12 PM
6

Calling people out who say they are feminists but only spewing hate, but then getting hate for calling them out? I don’t understand that notion, would you talk about that more? That hasn't happened. What has happened is that you've appeared to use the No True Scotsman fallacy so as not to be associated with these actual feminists. I've pointed out that these actual feminists are actual feminists and represent their movement far more accurately than you do with your different views under the same…
/r/MensRights22/05/21 07:02 PM
8

It wasn't a men's suicide event, it was a speech by Warren Farrell about which suicide was one of the topics. The protesters that turned up were the University of Toronto Feminist Society. They knew nothing about Farrell (lifelong feminist and only ever male director of the National Organization of Women) but decided that if it was something for "men" it must be an evil part of the patriarchy and shut down. That is literally all there is to it.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 06:42 PM
12

The protesters are literally the University of Toronto Feminist Society. By calling yourself a feminist, these are the people you are championing. They get their funding, influence, power, etc. because of you saying you are a feminist and them using that to make their views seem far more popular than they are. Call yourself an egalitarian, equal rights supporter or even men's rights activist if you actually care about equality as at the moment your denial makes you look to have no understanding …
/r/MensRights22/05/21 06:05 PM
9

Farrell is a lifelong feminist. Him pointing out that coyness exists is not endorsing rape despite what bad-faith morons suggest. And Feminism has consistently fought against recognition of male suffering, support and funding. You literally do not understand what you are talking about and are attempting to misrepresent things to those who do, making you come across as ignorant and malign.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 06:01 PM
5

What do you mean?
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:53 PM
4

In this subreddit there is always a lot of talk about helping men, but in practice you always end up just complaining about feminists. Did you not watch the clip? The feminists are the ones stopping men from getting help. Complaining about this is exactly the right thing to do and to show others the true face of feminism, just as videos like Cassie Jaye's The Red Pill show the true face of men's rights.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:52 PM
14

Warren Farrell is the only ever male director of the National Organisation of Women and a lifelong self-identifying feminist. He's about as misogynistic as Oprah Winfrey.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:45 PM
12

There are female supremacists but they have never been mainstream despite what conservative talk radio claims. Not only have they always been mainstream they are the icons and leaders of the feminist movement like Dworkin & MacKinnon, Mary Koss, Gloria Steinem, etc. Whatever these idiots are doing it's not what the movement was started as. But it is what the movement has always been even if it was started at least ostensibly in the name of equality (but even if that was the supposed intent it wa…
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:36 PM
3

This event was a speech by Warren Farrell at the University of Toronto. Suicide was just one of the topics he was covering, he was also covering a range of other topics where men face discrimination from homelessness to educational attainment. But it was not a suicide awareness event as such and labelling it as a suicide awareness event when it wasn't just leaves the very valid point that the feminists here were outrageously unreasonable open to deflection.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:30 PM
5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbeEuYAZFL4
/r/MensRights16/05/21 05:34 PM
1

Like Amber Heard? Take your evidence to a lawyer and see what they say.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 05:19 PM
0

No, because only the top 20% of men exist according to dating sites. And less than half of those are rated above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 07:28 PM
2

Women were also denied entry into service. Women fought for the right to enter into the armed forces. And this is more a class issue. Rich men were the ones that established this requirement. Pretending this was ever anything other than a privilege is beyond naive. It’s strange that you think it is a privilege to be denied options. Why? You seem to be ignoring that the options were not options at all but obligations. The idea that men had to provide for women in a one-sided setup is simply false…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/21 10:01 AM
18

By women not having been able to vote? Voting rights were equated with conscription throughout most of the world. Not having to die in a war was a privilege that came at a tiny cost. By women having not been able to own property? They didn't need to because their partners and parents were required to provide for them. Also weren't able to accrue debt as their parents and partners were liable for that too. So they had property and it was merely an accounting technicality that it wasn't in their n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/21 10:44 PM
21

The point is that women as a group have too often NOT been seen as full human beings with autonomy. How do you propose to determine this? Because I propose that it is untrue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/21 08:30 PM
32

Pop over to r/incels then and take your pick. I'm sure you'll find hundreds of guys eager for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:33 PM
48

It’s not all about money, height and status or whatever Yes it is. Girls would rather be single than accept a relationship with a broke, short, unpopular, nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:21 PM
-3

What they deserve is not at all the same as what they should get because it is far more important that they feel free to come forward and admit they lied rather than they leave an innocent guy in prison because they're scared of being sent to prison themselves. It is far better that a hundred guilty go free than a single man be wrongly imprisoned.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 07:02 PM
59

I've heard it seriously argued that logic is a tool of patriarchal oppression designed to deny the feelings of women.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 06:38 PM
3

Or older guys marry less attractive younger women who won't attract someone attractive or similarly aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 10:04 PM
1

the offer of the handshake was fake gesture No doubt, but that's why he could have been the bigger man. instead he decided to launch into a rant, exposing who he actually was. Again, I don't think there was ever any doubt about the sort of guy he was, it would have just been an opportunity for OP to reduce the influence of her slander and prevent precisely the type of escalation that occurred and could have potentially turned physical by maintaining his own frame.
/r/askTRP02/05/21 04:17 PM
2

He then introduced himself as her partner and extended his hand to shake. I took a sip of my drink, looked him in the eyes and said "I'm not shaking your hand" then he went into a rant of abuse! Why didn't you shake his hand and be friendly, saying something like "It shows you're a decent guy that you'd come and talk to me after whatever she must have told you. Whatever she told you about me is whatever she'll tell others about you whenever she gets in a bad mood or if you break up. Let's have a…
/r/askTRP02/05/21 03:23 PM
4

The opposite of love is not loathing, it is indifference. Your effort and time was not effectively directed. That's your fault for not picking up on the red flags and giving commitment where it wasn't warranted. You may or may not have encouraged her to cheat through your behavior or maybe you just chose a bad partner who would have cheated regardless. Chalk it up to experience, choose more wisely who to give your commitment to next time, and don't engage in beta behavior that encourages a girl …
/r/askTRP30/04/21 02:35 PM
20

He is.
/r/PussyPass29/04/21 11:56 AM
46

And his "Women don't lie about sexual assault" before being accused by a woman of sexual assault.
/r/PussyPass29/04/21 11:56 AM
1

Which is why you get to know them for years before deciding to spend the rest of your life with them and have children with them. This gives you a good indication of their propensity for change and enables you to make an informed decision as to their suitability as a long term partner. If you spend four years with someone before proposing you get to see if they are an abusive narcissist no matter how much they might try to hide it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 05:30 PM
0

It seems like a simple communication issue regarding one side seeing a generality and the other side seeing it as an absolute. Or even speaking in terms of biological drives versus society/culture. The simple fact is that men are hardwired to propagate their seed whereas women are hardwired to be discerning about how they allow to fertilise them. Whilst at the same time things like child support and STD awareness on the one hand and women's emancipation and sexual liberation on the other mean th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 04:52 PM
1

Men are responsible for sticking their dick in crazy all the time and if selected will usually go for it But only an idiot would think it is anyone other than the woman chooses the father of her child and indeed whether to bring any pregnancy to term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 04:36 PM
1

I think you replied to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:04 PM
1

It isn't hard to get an indication about the scope of potential change in a person by spending several years getting to know them before deciding to marry and have kids with that person. The reality is that most single mothers don't do anything remotely approaching that much. You know this, I know this, everyone knows this. Pretending that the problem is men fleeing after having kids with a woman is downright delusional and happens in only a handful of extremely atypical cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:01 PM
-1

It is indeed always the choosers fault who they choose as a partner, that is the innate nature of being the selective party. If you choose someone that "turns into" a terrible partner there is a chance it is just misfortune but that really doesn't happen very often at all because the entire purpose of getting to know someone before electing to have a child with them is to determine their suitability as a parent to that child and in the five years or so that most sensible people take before decid…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:47 PM
3

I do hope you are joking and don't genuinely need me to explain it to you, but in case you really don't know choosing a poor partner who will not commit to you is exactly the sort of poor decision making referred to above.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:03 PM
5

Just implying someone who sleeps around without having committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:36 PM
1

how do i quote with this blue line in the comments? Use the > symbol followed by a space at the start of a paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:35 PM
13

If anyone believes the blatant projection from u/hominidlucy then they are a moron. Single mothers are less attractive because their circumstances indicate poor decision-making ability and there is a biological imperative to want to optimise life chances of your own children. People who do raise the kids of others are doing those kids a huge service at their own expense but most people don't want to make that sacrifice for anyone but their own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 02:25 PM
1

Hmmnn... My point was that it isn't just a shitty person issue as some shitty people get away with it, making it a gender issue after all. I suspect that there might be a lot of people who mistook me describing the reality for endorsing that reality. Still, it doesn't reflect well on our side that so many seem content to react irrationally. Thanks all the same.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 02:14 PM
6

Correct. It is repeatedly used in older films where the man moves in to kiss the woman who initially slaps him or some such but then kisses him back, for example. I remember an advert for Riveta a decade or so ago that had a woman on the bus kiss a random man sitting next to her before alighting - reverse the sexes and there would have been uproar but no one thought twice about it when it came out.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 01:55 PM
7

It is determined entirely by the response. If the person goes with it then it was welcomed, if they don't then it is sexual assault.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 01:50 PM
12

That you cannot determine whether it was welcomed or not until after it has occurred.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 01:47 PM
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That's not entirely accurate as society places extremely different expectations on what individuals of either sex can expect to get away with when it comes to sexual assault and Schroedinger's sexual assault comes into play. EDIT: Why is this getting downvoted? Do people genuinely believe society doesn't treat the sexes differently when it comes to sexual assault? That's just insane, one doesn't need to be aware of sentencing disparities between them for the same crimes to know that society has …
/r/MensRights25/04/21 10:56 AM
1

Feminist men are creeps. It is not just feminist men who are like this.
/r/AntiFeminists24/04/21 12:53 PM
8

It has literally nothing to do with hating women and everything to do with unjust legislation and practices.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 01:41 PM
52

Some people are just evil.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 08:50 AM
2

We're at the third stage.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 08:21 AM
3

Feminists have always fought against the presumption of equal custody whenever legislation has been proposed from the 1970s to the present day. How can you not know this?
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/21 06:28 PM
3

feminists always say men have no idea what it's like to be a woman and we should listen and believe their experiences What they are actually saying is that women have more value than men and that men are disposable and do not matter. They just don't realise that by saying this they are admitting their true thoughts to be revealed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/21 09:03 AM
1

Again, the points you are making are about how you feel now. I appreciate that you feel strongly about this now but you've acknowledged previously that you recognise you may change your mind about some things as you get older. This is one of those things and honestly the worst thing you can do is not change your view on this as the new evidence you see as you encounter people in situations where cheating is the least bad option is not change your mind. But worry about that in a decade or two, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:37 PM
1

I’m saying if there was any sign someone I was dating was capable of that I wouldn’t be with them. It is very important. Everyone is capable of infidelity, including you. Whether anyone acts on that capability is a different matter. There is no excuse to cheat on someone, imo. I could ply you with hypotheticals until we found one that fits, because there always is one, but generally I'd actually agree with you. However there are always exceptions. They will find out and you will destroy their li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:41 PM
1

they historically have not been putting in the effort in the heavy lifting in the relationship itself. Which is the emotional labor... That's just nonsense. Men have always historically done the heavy lifting of emotional labor by sacrificing their own needs and interests for the betterment of their spouse and kids. Women honestly don't know what real emotional labor is because they've never had to find out. Look at how you've described it above, for example, without even realising what you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:14 PM
19

Yup, agree completely. It was an effective and relevant rejoinder. It is all well and good saying "Skip those ones!" when those ones make up the majority of supply and even if you weren't skipping those ones demand still massively outstrips supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:07 PM
1

So as you grow older you just settle for shitty treatment? No, you just realise that some things you thought were super-important turn out not to be as important as you once thought. I don’t see cheating as an inevitable circumstance It isn't inevitable at all, but requires effort, knowledge and luck. I do not think it is acceptable to cheat on someone because you are sexually deprived and I would advise these people to suggest an open relationship or something with their partner. If not, they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:19 PM
1

You set your boundaries early in a relationship and if they’re disrespected, you’re out. When you are a teen, perhaps, but as I explained previously things change over time. you accept that it is best you do not stay in this relationship together because they do not love you and hurt you. You are still equating them hurting you with them not loving you. The longer a relationship lasts the more compromises you will have to make as study, work, promotions, housing, kids, families, friends, etc. al…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:03 PM
1

Hypothetically, if I cheated or if my boyfriend cheated, we would break up. Which is understandable if you have no commitments to one another besides the label of exclusivity. But if you live together, have a legal contract of marriage, have a home together, have debts together, have children together, pets, friends, a lifestyle, etc. then the ending of an entire life built together over decades suddenly seems very different to a couple of youngsters who will go to different colleges anyway or d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:19 PM
0

I get the impression from your answer that you are probably quite young and when you are young this is an issue you tend to look at in black and white terms. I remember doing so myself and being astonished when in my early 20s a colleague in his 40s was explaining to me how his wife would have affairs with other members of her orchestra with a mixture of bewilderment and horror. But they spent a substantial amount of time apart because of their careers and they loved each other and didn't want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:51 PM
0

Of course it is love! Some people tear themselves up with guilt because of it, others become cynical, people are complex and react in various ways but saying that anyone who is ever unfaithful wasn't in love with their partner... do you not see how necessarily untrue such a suggestion is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:26 PM
3

How anyone could treat a human being as “disposable” is beyond me. It is sad realising that a lot of people truly see it in that way. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:09 PM
-1

No one who loves someone would cheat on them. This is a nonsense. The real world is complicated. People fall in love with more than one person at a time, end up in dead bedroom situations, have divergent sexual inclinations, etc. People who love their partner sometimes cheat on them. That's the cold, hard reality. Being loved by your partner is no guarantee of fidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:08 PM
25

Doing that is more likely to result in OP being prosecuted than his ex. Lawyer first, cops second. Always.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 02:54 PM
3

That you've witnessed exceptions occur doesn't mean they are remotely the norm. And this has nothing to do with my personal experience but is simple logic. As a result of there being so many attractive men advertising their availability online, with a choice of thousands of appealing guys in most cities of decent size, the filters become necessarily higher to keep the selection manageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:40 PM
1

What you say here is the opposite of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:53 AM
13

The Long March Through The Institutions was completed in the early 1990s but well underway for decades before that. The only people that deny this are those attempting to mislead others as to the extent of it and their Useful Idiots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/21 06:59 PM
19

You are looking at what he posted. And you're probably banned yourself now too for replying to it.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 05:56 PM
10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaS5VIGsS0E
/r/MensRights16/04/21 04:51 PM
66

This was really good. Too bad they are more interested in claiming victimhood than understanding reality over there.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 11:38 AM
5

Male disposability in action.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/21 11:12 AM
2

People care too much about cheating and simply need to be more discerning in who they select for long-term relationships. If you made a poor judgement in partner choice that is on you as much as it is on them. Show some self-respect and choose more carefully next time around rather than settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 09:56 AM
2

Think of it as natural selection in action. The people who post there are voluntarily weeding themselves out of the gene pool as no man that comes remotely close to measuring up to their 'standards' would ever be interested in such a woman.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 09:46 AM
20

Nig*r
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/21 12:33 PM
-3

It's a consensual fetish even if it is exploitative (and indeed for the 'victim' that is the entire point).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 10:06 PM
1

Delete this post and speak to a lawyer. Do not discuss this with anyone that knows her. Do NOT speak to the police if it comes to that. Talk only to your lawyer.
/r/askTRP09/04/21 09:03 PM
2

I'm not the one misunderstanding the definition here. You seem to be under this mistaken apprehension that black out drunk means incapable of consent. It does not because whilst black out drunk you are capable of consent. Black out just means that you don't remember it, not that you weren't capable of consenting. It has nothing to do with cognition impairment or being barely responsive which are entirely separate things that are unrelated to being black out drunk. Keep your perverted projection …
/r/MensRights08/04/21 03:39 PM
1

No, this mistake that you are making is why a lot of false accusations are made. You can be capable of consenting at the time you consented but still black out later and not remember. This is what happened with the Ched Evans accuser, for example. She gave informed consent and was in a position to give informed consent but couldn't remember that she had done so the next morning.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 02:09 PM
1

There is a huge difference between knowingly accusing someone falsely and unknowingly doing so because of misunderstanding.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 09:45 AM
1

You can within groups and through being selective who you associate with, but it only takes one crazy person to ruin your life.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 09:44 AM
2

There isn't much you can do to stop false accusaitons because of the above but you can do your best to ensure they don't come to fruition by: Always keep your phone location on, record all interactions or don't be alone with potential false accusers (keep the door open), don't talk to the police about the evidence proving you innocent as they'll try and get your evidence deemed inadmissible.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 09:41 AM
3

Banks didn't even have sex with this girl. Abstaining doesn't help you. Hell, even never having met them doesn't help you.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 09:27 AM
6

You seem to be confusing malicious accusations with unknowingly false accusations here. If a girl got blackout drunk and didn't remember that at the time she gave consent she wasn't so drunk then she might make an honest mistake in accusing someone. That isn't a malicious accusation and wouldn't be treated as such in terms of prosecuting the false claim. It is never a case of either true claim or false claim, there is a huge amount of grey area in between.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 09:21 AM
3

You're getting downvoted but you are right. It is more important that the innocent who are falsely accused are exonerated than those who accused them are punished and they won't come forward and admit it if they know they are going to get a lengthy prison sentence if they do. Even Banks accuser didn't come forward, she had to be tricked into confessing. /u/boundarychimps has it right with regard to ramifications for confessing versus not confessing.
/r/MensRights08/04/21 09:18 AM
2

There’s no official number on how many men get falsely accused of rape, but the number generally ranges from 1-10% of all rape accusations This is such nonsense. With convictions routinely being obtained on nothing more than he-said-she-said like in Brian Banks' case yet only around 5% of accusations making it to court and just over half of them resulting on conviction it is almost certain that the true number of false accusations is >90%. One doesn't need to be familiar with how women use lies …
/r/MensRights08/04/21 09:15 AM
5

Reddit Admins: We treat people differently based on their skin color or sex! Public: Look, Reddit Admins are racist and sexist! Reddit Admins: /Shocked Pikachu face
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 10:00 AM
-2

Jail is a totally inappropriate sentence for this type of crime. She should instead have to work to pay compensation to the victim, the victim should not have to be forced through the civil courts as well in order to get any kind of recompense.
/r/MensRights02/04/21 10:23 AM
19

But the point is if it isn't broken and the claim is that penetration occurred that can be shown to be untrue.
/r/MensRights01/04/21 05:45 PM
3

There was a lot of anti-withdrawal propaganda put about at the time of the AIDS epidemic to encourage condom use that has seeped into the psyche of the West. People are now emotionally invested in slating withdrawal because they've believed it to be an ineffective form of birth control for so long despite it being more effective than condoms in real terms unless condoms are combined with another form of birth control.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 09:26 AM
5

Short answer, no. It is very hard for companies to be able to do this when society cares more about women as companies that do do this would be boycotted for doing so. There might be some that market to men only that can get away with it - I think King Of Shaves did something for men a while back but I can't be sure - but certainly not larger companies because the cost of them doing so would be too high.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 01:06 PM
11

The place on reddit probably the most in line with your avowed thinking is /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates I would have thought. It's pretty active and covers pro-equality/anti-feminist sentiment well.
/r/AntiFeminists29/03/21 09:23 PM
8

Why on earth would a high value man place himself in this situation. He wouldn't. FDS doesn't work. However it might work for inexperienced rich beta chumps if the woman in question can convince the chump that she is virginal and worth waiting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:55 PM
3

You're so money, Baby.
/r/askTRP27/03/21 06:52 PM
5

The above is the only option to find out if there is something wrong. And who cares if they wind you up about it? That kind of Mean Girls type behavior should be beneath anyone who is an adult. Your other alternative is to try and ride it out by organizing lots of stuff yourself but that won't provide answers as to whether there is a reason for it or now.
/r/askTRP25/03/21 01:47 PM
5

Not likely to discriminate according to surname as most HR workers in the UK are pro-immigration, but if you have any doubts try sending out your CV with a westernised surname and see for yourself if it makes a difference.
/r/askTRP25/03/21 01:03 PM
11

Ask whichever one of them you think will be most honest with their answer, "What gives?". For all you know one of their girlfriends might have been saying that you hit on her or something. It isn't needy, petty or confrontational to want to know what is going on in your situation.
/r/askTRP25/03/21 12:55 PM
2

That it covers a wide range.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:54 PM
16

That describes everyone from Amber Herd to Julie Bindell.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:03 PM
2

Low value women don't get their issues recognised. They are like incel guys in terms of frustration but don't get the social acknowledgement of their difficulties recognised because of the way that the sexual marketplace is structured. People, both men and women, default to assuming it is easier for them than it is. Like any other marginalised group for whom it isn't politically correct to acknowledge their difficulties, they have a tougher time of it than those groups for whom it is politically…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:57 PM
2

Have you seen this Tedx talk?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 12:07 PM
7

What is wrong with FDS is the gender hatred and the fact that what they are advocating yields the opposite of their intended result as they price themselves out of the market (resulting in ever greater gender hatred). The sense of unearned entitlement is also very ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:18 PM
1

they believe that affirmative action is the means to attaining equality and levelling the playing field. Perhaps, but they certainly don't believe that retaining lifelong alimony is equality or levels the playing field. Same for gender blind hiring practices, recognition of male domestic violence victims, default equal custody, equal reproductive rights, etc. Some feminists are useful idiots who don't realise they are fighting against equality but the leadership do, those with power, influence, …
/r/MensRights20/03/21 09:32 PM
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the whole MRA movement because its just feminism in reverse. It isn't remotely feminism in reverse. Feminism fights against equality in a myriad of ways from being against scrapping gender specific scholarships despite women dominating at every level of academia to fighting against recognition of male victims of domestic violence. The Men's Right's movement is the opposite, fighting for equality, not against. Thinking they are the same but with the sexes reversed is outright wrong. I read these …
/r/MensRights20/03/21 05:09 PM
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The subs been destroyed by false flaggers, poe's, incels, and misogynists. That is not at all representative of this subreddit. So it's not that bad. Not yet. But it will be. Unlikely ever to be remotely like that as the way of thinking here isn't like the feminist subs where not even disagreement but non-adherence to the politically correct narrative isn't tolerated.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 04:59 PM
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There was a culture war and their side won. Through nepotism and entryism they took over the schools, the media, the arts, academia, the public sector as a whole and used their positions of power to influence culture in ways that wouldn't have been successful at the ballot box. Because of that we have political correctness which dictates that in order to be good guys you have to be anti-men. This is policed socially by both true believers and useful idiots and you are experiencing that right now…
/r/MensRights19/03/21 11:26 AM
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Men have always had an outgroup bias though, the predisposition is a biological imperative due to the differences between the sexes with regard to pregnancy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 07:58 PM
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Seriously? Why the fuck are they modding a men's sub? The Long March Through The Institutions spread to social media long ago with activists taking up any mod roles they could get in order to exert their power. Wikipedia and Rationalwiki are probably the best example of it, but everything from reddit to Google has the cultural narrative controlled by the most partisan their movement can get away with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 07:56 PM
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It sucks that the system is so corrupt and rigged against the innocent in cases like this. The truth is that those who are charging you don't care if you are innocent or not they only care if they can obtain a conviction. They'll try to get all of your exculpatory evidence excluded too. Evil scum that they are. Cancer is too good for them. Really sorry you and your loved ones had to go through this when the only thing you are guilty of is trying to help someone out. It may not mean much but I th…
/r/MensRights16/03/21 10:08 PM
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Ms magazine says that feminism only gets US$200m per year with far more supposedly going to anti-feminist organisations (if you can believe that!): https://www.awid.org/news-and-analysis/where-money-feminist-organising-new-analysis-finds-answer-alarming
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/21 09:37 PM
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They say that most men do not fight for custody and most of the time it's settle out of the court. They even say that men are much more likely to win custody if they fight for it, especially if the woman alleges abuse. Men do not fight for custody most of the time because they know they won't get it and can't afford the lawyers fees for the fight. Of course they try to settle out of court and will only fight for it if they have an air-tight case to win (and even then they don't all the time). Wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/21 12:45 PM
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It reminds me of Trudeau saying that women don't lie about sexual assault only to be accused of sexual assault himself. Facts don't matter to these people, all that matter is pushing the ideological narrative even if it contradicts reality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/21 10:05 AM
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Trust me, they won't even think that let alone ask it. They are volunteers who just want to help people in your situation. Unpaid, no agenda, and the kind of thing you are imagining would see them kicked out of the organisation which none of them want if they are volunteering to help people. Besides, I hope knowing enough about the subject that if anyone ever were to ask you that you'd be able to answer "Because they wrongly blame all men for the actions of a handful of people who do bad stuff, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 04:42 PM
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This is a well known phenomenon and you certainly aren't alone. Those on the left simply aren't as familiar with it as those on the right, but the whole 1984 wrong-think demonisation of views advocating actual equality under threat of 'cancellation' has been a tactic since long before it had a name. Just understand how and when to keep your views anonymous so that you don't become a martyr for the cause. Reddit is great for this sort of thing as you can be anonymous. And if you want to say somet…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 03:18 PM
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They won't try to change your views and there is no cost to the call regardless of whether it is from a mobile or landline. They literally exist precisely to help people in exactly your situation. Their volunteers get training to make sure they don't come across as trying to change your mind about your views on things. Try them and see if it helps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 01:08 PM
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Assuming you are in the UK because of where this happened, the Samaritans are the best bet if you need someone to listen to you and help with the feelings you are having. For what it is worth the world needs more people like you who recognise that this shouldn't be an opportunity to bash all men. We need you, so please don't do anything that might make things worse for all as together we are stronger. You are one of us. You make us stronger.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 12:27 PM
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I feel like I misinterpreted the audience in this sub. You did, but not in the way you think. many of the responses are decidedly anti-women. No they aren't, they are anti-women-who-believe-only-men-do-this. I certainly believe the above sentiment doesn't apply to all women, or even most women. Not all, but definitely most simply because of how women (and men) are socialised not to recognise sexual assault against men and boys as serious. It is only a handful who have thought about this issue an…
/r/MensRights12/03/21 12:24 PM
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They'll come up with some nonsensical justification that she was coerced or something to excuse it.
/r/MensRights12/03/21 12:09 PM
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Actually apparently he had his knee on the back of the neck to prevent asphyxiation Just to clarify, the footage does show the officer's shin and knee on the neck during the restraint. Whilst it had nothing to do with the death lets not leave ourselves open to criticism that we are misrepresenting things simply because we point out the officer was not responsible for the death.
/r/MensRights12/03/21 12:07 PM
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You'd have to be a complete moron to believe that.
/r/PussyPass12/03/21 10:59 AM
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You have shown no facts and no evidence. I've shown the plan, whose plan it was, when and where it was enacted, and the results of it. Where are the examples of my strawman arguments? I don't think you've posited a single counter point that isn't a straw man. You have nothing. You are a good debater but armed with little evidence. You have a strong opinion and you can voice it well, but it doesn't mean its correct. I have the facts. The evidence is the results. It is correct. I suspect you reali…
/r/MensRights09/03/21 10:34 AM
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You lack the self awareness to be embarrassed by your constant straw man arguments and misrepresentations. You are a textbook example of a UI, when confronted with the facts your opinion doesn't change - the facts must. And you justify this to yourself with ridiculous and inaccurate notions like for cultural Marxism to exist it must be peer reviewed when even the average sociology undergrad knows this stuff. You are incapable of being objective or even rational and so continuing this conversatio…
/r/MensRights09/03/21 09:39 AM
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