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| 1 | The Vicious Cycle (Regarding your ability to attract beautiful women)One rationalisation that this does not adress at all is the one that you get when you start reading stuff like this: Namely, that your unattractiveness is based on the fact that you have no "Game" and no confidence around girls sepcifically. I hold none of these beliefs, so I notice that I find a fari number of attractive girls be initially attracted to me - the get turned off fast once they notice my lack of "Game" and resulting neediness around them. I can sadly not go into my brain, flip some… | /r/seduction | 18/03/17 06:24 PM |
| 2 | A little question regarding ModelsNo, I meant that MY comment was negative. Yours was good - I just seem to have a tremendous problem with self-acceptance and a propensity to really hate myself over the slightest of reasons, and this entire women thing triggers it harder tham everything else. Other than that - thanks, and good luck to you too! :) | /r/seduction | 17/03/17 11:11 PM |
| 1 | A little question regarding ModelsAnd so what? I did pertty much the same as you did - kissed a girl (and she wasn't even chubby, but the girl half the party was after) and also went on a Date (curiously with an attractive 32-year old as well :D), only that I met her by approaching her on a subway. But the point is, I know I'll get laid eventually. So what. Congratulations. Then I have achieved what any guy actually good with women has done latest by age 18 or maybe 20 or so. And then what? I'll still be immesurably inferior. Wh… | /r/seduction | 17/03/17 06:28 PM |
| 1 | A little question regarding ModelsSure, all help is much appreciated! I'm just worried I might find out that I'm one of those who it doesn`t really help. Or worst of all, just helps a little and sees me getting stuck with a gf after some lays. Other than that, my main problem right now is being totally stuck in my head when talking to girls. This is mostly due to the thought of having to “game“ girls, “build attraction“ and all that which makes it seem that talking normally is pointless as you need to be in complete control, fli… | /r/seduction | 16/03/17 05:26 PM |
| 2 | A little question regarding ModelsBecause the fact that all these "Techinques" are required makes me feel as if no woman would ever like me for who I am. Now she will sleep with you for your "Skill". She will fuck you on the first date not becasue she can't resist, but because you escalated smoothly and just right. Somehat like when women hate being seen only as wet holes by guys - when they see guys only as things that give them certain emotions and nothing else. | /r/seduction | 16/03/17 11:13 AM |
| 1 | A little question regarding ModelsAnd yes - I do have a twini sister who helps a lot. Also talk a lot to friends gfs/friends of friends or girls in my friend circles. So it's not like female contact is completely alien to me. | /r/seduction | 15/03/17 09:03 PM |
| 1 | A little question regarding ModelsThat fast, really? Then again, from making a decision to go for girls finally to getting the second kiss of my life it was only about two weeks... What kinda killed my motivation was reading about what others do on here and all over the internet, seeing like it is impossible to ever reach. Especially of some guys who saw overwhelming success right off the bat after starting out like me. Which gave me the impression that I need to get laid like, yesterday if I ever want to get anywhere at my age.… | /r/seduction | 15/03/17 06:34 PM |
| 1 | A little question regarding ModelsYou are not that kind of man You, just like the rest of theses posters are absolutely right. I have an incredibly hard time swallowing that. And that is holding me back so much I don't even want to get started, and waste my time thinking and worriyng how I can get to that point instead. Nevermind that there is always an excuse - you mention manson hado to put in the work, as he writes in his book himself. Now I instead think that he at least got started at 22 or something, and therefore had all … | /r/seduction | 15/03/17 02:09 PM |
| 1 | A little question regarding ModelsI know what you mean, and you're right. Just - I've had several of those "Happy accidents" happen to me, and it got me nowhere. For example, about a year back I got a literal Lingerie model to invite me back to her hotel for a massage. How? I just chatted her up in a club with absolutely no intention whatsoever, talked normally to her and her friends until said friends left on their own accord and she invited me over. Problem is, I didn't go through with it, as I had completely convinced myself … | /r/seduction | 15/03/17 01:34 PM |
| 1 | A little question regarding ModelsThanks - recently, it occured to me that I have a large problem with developing that sort of mindset - which is, that I have insanely high standards in myself. I cannot number the amount of things, from playing instruments to sports and even videogames, that I started and quickly dropped simply because I wasn't overwhelimingly talented and master-level good at them from the start. The same goes for women. I cannot enjoy thei company, or the process itself. Women who are clearly into me don't do … | /r/seduction | 15/03/17 01:18 PM |
| 2 | A little question regarding ModelsThank you, but one Issue with that I have is that it takes time. I already am pretty social, have lots of friends (though admittedly no female ones), but this way might see me lose my virginity in possibly years to come. I can't just take the step back that is required to do this - even if it all works out, I'm just a non-virgin, and still light years away from being actually confident with women and in a position where I choose them instead the other way around. When am I going to bang the doze… | /r/seduction | 15/03/17 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Everyone here seems to love Models, but Mark somewhat dismisses shit tests. What do you think?Fair enough - you're right. Though I've done all the above, and get approached by attractive girls at least semi-regularly, so it's not my looks or vibe that put them off. Just struggling really hard with the fact that I have to struggle and face mountains of failure once I get proactive - most guys my age just swoop in and take the girls while I have to strike out for possibly years to come before I get some hideous scraps left behind by better guys every once in a while, nevermind being ever a… | /r/seduction | 14/03/17 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Everyone here seems to love Models, but Mark somewhat dismisses shit tests. What do you think?Well, this is ot directly related, but his post goes directly to my main problem right now. Which is, that for I cannot see how that should be fun in any way. I just see that as mindless drudgery I have to go through, a terrible experience where i see guys with "Gayyyme" pull left and right while I'm left in the dust - not because I'm an unattractive guy, but simply because I did not deliver the correct behaviours. Also, as a virgin at 26 my main worry is if I will ever get to a point where it's… | /r/seduction | 14/03/17 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Horrible Mindset, please helpSadly, I don't. Although I did conculde that that was probably it - I used to masturbate a lot, even with the set goal of killing my sex drive before leaving my home. Looks like I succeeded in that - which is why I stopped, which had good results initially. | /r/seduction | 08/03/17 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Horrible Mindset, please helpFirst off, thanks. But: Introvert No social skills I'm neither. I used to have tons of social anxiety, but got out of that. Nowadays I have plenty of friends, can freely talk to people normally and am pretty extroverted. As are most of my friends and aquiantances - most of whom assume I get laid alot for that reason. have poor social skills with women Not necessarily - whenever I behave normal and relaxed around a girl because I'm not thinking about what I need to do to fuck her, she tends to en… | /r/seduction | 08/03/17 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Horrible Mindset, please helpOh yes. I'm a farily intelligent guy, so my excuses are well-crafted and convincing. Useful when I miss a deadline, but as you can see not so much in this area. Any Idea what I can do to stop it and stop telling bullshit to myself? | /r/seduction | 08/03/17 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Stopped dead in my TracksFunny thing is, if I'd managed to bang about half of all the attractive girls I just talked to without an agenda and while assuming I'd never get laid until they asked me out/isolated themselves with me/tried to make out through the past three years I'd already sit somewhere close to that number. Maybe it's time to stop concerning myself with the life sof others - it's no different than masturbating to porn or Videogames. Also, this guy was probably never sexually abused, and didn't struggle wit… | /r/seduction | 10/02/17 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Stopped dead in my TracksYeah, I probably do. Another thing: How do you deal with other guys having a lot of success fast? Like the guy I reffered to in my OP - going from virgin to banging 17 girls within less than a year. I feel it's incredibly discouraging -what's wrong with me that things don't work out for me the same way? | /r/seduction | 09/02/17 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Stopped dead in my TracksOk, I get it. Thanks again. So I'll just keep in mind to speak as little about myself as possible - unless I really feel the need to, in which case it has always been fine. So, the whole statement thing is more in regards to cold reading and making comments? I had the impression you should be opening up too, which kinda requires talking about yourself. | /r/seduction | 09/02/17 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Stopped dead in my TracksThanks. Yeah, I went from doing 2) and 3) as well as probably incidentally 1) sometimes straight to 4). I can see why that is bad. What exactly is the difference between 1) and 4)? I don't quite get it. Is it inent only (trying to "sell" yourself to the girl vs. saying what pops into your head) Also - is it possible that any sort of seduction (even extremely agressive game geared towards only sex) requires you to feel something, anything positive towards the girl? Because right now I feel like a… | /r/seduction | 09/02/17 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Stopped dead in my TracksYeah, that's what I did before I read "Models". Now I feel bad every time I have nothing else to say but ask a question. Before that, I would just ask questions, let them flap their gums, listen and go off that. Now I always have in my head that I'm supposed to "connect", always use statements and go "one level deeper" all the time, so I go in my head and try to say the "right thing". I just don't get it - on one hand , you're supposed to show your true self wihtout inhibitions, on the other han… | /r/seduction | 09/02/17 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Stopped dead in my TracksThanks, man. Tyler is pretty great - although I've made the mistake of reading and watching stuff pretty much every day for the last months, which I think plays a major role in getting myself way too much into my head plus feeling like shit when I read about how easily others pulled themselsves out of my situation, without months and years of progressing before seeing any results. And yeah - I definitely feel like my Mind is throwing everything it's got at me to resist change, especially conside… | /r/seduction | 08/02/17 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Stopped dead in my TracksIf the basis of even a normal conversation isn't there, there's no point. I even wrote that I just do that - again, more as a token effort, since awkwardness=no attraction and no attraction= any form of escalation is completely ueseless. Never ind that thinking about stuff like push-pull and what I'm "supposed to do" does indeed pull...myself even further into my head, at which point I might as well just not say anything at all. | /r/seduction | 08/02/17 11:07 PM |
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