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You’d better listen and lawyer up. 50/50 equal shared parenting is the trend. It’ll make it more difficult to alienate you and child support will be lower. Good luck.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 03:42 PM
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Have you sought professional mental health care? That can help.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:52 PM
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I have a female friend who has to work. He got custody, alimony and the house. She gets alienated from her kids by her ex. She’s why my friends support family court reform. Feminizing gone equal.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 01:29 PM
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Just wait until mom doesn’t need you any more and cuts off contact with your child. Custody fights start from birth. I took this position, did half the childcare and when she kidnapped our son won 50/50 equal shared parenting.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 02:37 PM
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It was inevitable that there would be female conscription as soon as women claimed to be equal. Conservative women and their minions know this.
/r/MensRights10/11/21 07:55 PM
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Isn’t the divorce rate 6% in India?
/r/MensRights06/11/21 06:16 PM
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We are a capitalist country and relationships are measured in dollars spent on cars and houses. It is capitalism applied via feminism in its gender jihad that has led to our current anti family cultural situation.
/r/MensRights29/10/21 09:14 PM
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Don’t expect a better deal from a man because your a man. I’ve been screwed by men and women equally in my life.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 06:26 PM
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Example?
/r/MensRights28/10/21 06:19 PM
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I was harassed out of my job for being male, sued, won and retired. Equality is the law. If in doubt, sue.
/r/MensRights27/10/21 04:38 PM
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I don’t believe the patriarchy theory on which feminism is partially based. That’s the academic way of putting it if movie references hurt your feelings.
/r/MensRights09/10/21 06:59 PM
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Never make women the focus of your life. Always have a plan B.
/r/MensRights09/10/21 06:55 PM
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A criminology student as well. Cause of false accusation: being vindictive over some slight. Hold out for full due process. False accusations are a real thing.
/r/MensRights09/10/21 06:47 PM
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And similarly you don’t hear radical feminism supported by woman in my life.
/r/MensRights08/10/21 10:58 PM
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It could be true. As the veteran of a contested fight, it’s very unclear how the children will behave or what they say when they decide to not want to see the father. It’s pretty wild but I’ve seen worse on here.
/r/MensRights08/10/21 10:52 PM
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Woman are smarter and have higher emotional intelligence than men. While at the same time saying men and women are equivalent. We are complementary.
/r/MensRights07/10/21 10:27 PM
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All of those features apply equally to men and women. Teams, meeting people, traveling, P, learning. Women should formally be forced to contribute at the time of war to be truly equal citizens morally. Only 10% of military ever see action.
/r/MensRights07/10/21 12:17 AM
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This is a reason for celebration by radical feminists. Soon non-STEM fields will be seen as digital secretarial schools. Worthless paper and without a 2.5 trillion dollars, a very expensive secretarial school.
/r/MensRights06/10/21 04:36 PM
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You're correct. This is a trojan horse to attempt to inculcate gendered political opinions into elementary school children. As it has with adults, it will likely backfire and cause the boys to feel they are being attacked because they are all potential "incels" whatever that means.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 12:04 PM
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It's just my opinion. It is not a logical deduction so doesn't follow the rules of logic and is not a fallacy. It is an idea. It could be right or wrong. I can't prove it.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 12:00 PM
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It will be the mothers of son's that help the men's right's movement succeed.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 11:17 AM
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These are the new rules of the game. You're supposed to report this stuff now. If men don't report it, they'll say it doesn't happen. Let the chips fall where they may.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 11:12 AM
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How do you know who I am or what I know? You're a liar. Sure Reddit doesn't like us, but in real life people I speak to love that men are fighting for some gender balance. I have many family and friends that have been destroyed by the family courts. One is a feminist female a feminist leader who's Mensa intelligent husband reversed the scripts and is the lesser earner in their divorce, forced her out and got the house and the kids as well as alimony from her. So my crowd includes feminists and c…
/r/MensRights21/08/21 11:05 AM
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This is because white people own homes. The data was assets - liabilities. The banking crisis of 2008 was Obama's way to fix this problem and extend credit to poor borrowers. It nearly crashed the worlds economy. Junk bonds=bad loans to poor borrowers.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:39 AM
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Feminism is primarily a labor union for women so is all about money and power. That's inherently capitalistic and right wing. They cloth themselves in left wing ideology but look underneath and it's all about self interest.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:34 AM
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#metoo is putting an end to that as far as men are concerned. Any man who is stupid enough to get friendly with women at work will not last long at his job.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:32 AM
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Feminism is a capitalist system. It is a labor union of women. Seen that way it is no surprise that they exaggerate everything. That's what labor unions do. Always negotiating and the truth is irrelevant. That's why you don't fight or discuss with feminists. They just want more money...a raise, perpetually.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:29 AM
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And we rely on the nadir fallacy( lowest point, as apposed to apex, highest point) . We repeatedly hear horror stories about relationships then generalize this to all relationships. The truth is in the middle, IMO.
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:22 AM
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I'm sure they want to make sure the girls and boys learn the Mary Koss definition of rape and that consent means nothing, it can be revoked mid coitus without having to be vocalized and that anytime a woman starts to dislike any aspect of the encounter, even if she doesn't say no, it is rape. No evidence required. Go right to the police or school administrator, you can't trust the boy. As these are government lessons some boys will apply these to jury decisions they later sit on as adults. This …
/r/MensRights21/08/21 10:16 AM
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Yes, Reddit is a hostile environment for men. But men are smart and find ways. They can't stop what we're thinking though they are trying. The jig is up, feminism is just a hate movement at this point. And Reddit amplifies the hate.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 10:52 PM
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The number of 1000 rapes is a self reported number from the Bureau of Justice NCVS survey. Women reported 1000 sexual assaults. Only 28 where convicted. It is not a number taken from the air. If all women are to be believed, every one of those 1000 men go to prison.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 09:18 PM
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When women asked for political power 50 years ago, the doors of government where held wide open for them to enter. They live in fear of losing this power. They are so convinced that men are all like the Taliban that they live in fear of us. Men will have to help themselves pass laws and be treated fairly, I'm thinking custody issues and suicide. It will be an uphill fight all the way. But fair is fair and you now see men suing for sexual harassment against pregnant women (from a post today), so,…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 09:15 PM
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I read a letter supposedly written by a Taliban leader. In it he said that the lives of Taliban men is so terrible that dying in the fight to impose religious rule and the idea that a man dying such a death get's a special place for eternity is why their men fight so hard. This does not seem like a good place for men to be. Kinda like a conservative movement that believes life needs to be bleak so that they can control you by doling out any form of satisfaction life has to offer. He called us we…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 08:36 PM
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Surveys of young men indicate that the feminist message is falling flat on half the population. Our narrative is getting out there. Proof is in the recent banning.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 07:57 PM
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Women have worked for 50 years to avoid needing men. Their grand daughters are the women young men are now dating. Women don't need a man, they want a toy that cooks and cleans and a child. Then they need money for themselves and the children. Men are not necessary.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 07:55 PM
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If women were really oppressed in the past, which I doubt, it's wrong for women to treat men badly today as payback. Two wrongs don't make it right.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 07:47 PM
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True but the instinct to kill large animals for food is reasoned away with hunting laws that provide a way to get rid of excess population without causing reduction or extinction of animal populations. Even the Taliban, I am convinced, treat their women according to Sharia Law which is a civilized code not meant to hurt women but to help them. It's sexism for sure but for women's benefit, the Taliban say. Sexism is sexism. One set of laws for all. I support equality of opportunities for men and …
/r/MensRights20/08/21 07:42 PM
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I'm becoming more and more convinced that all this crazy misandrist shit is just a way to get MRA's triggered and our sites shut down. Sticks and stones. Don't take the bait. Let them think they can't get to us so they increase the volume of their propaganda until it stinks up the place. Stick to laws that are being passed. Study and attack social re-constructionism like #metoo. And be very careful who you get involved with.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 06:50 PM
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The data that RIANN, the nationally recognized organization working to help punish rape indicates that sexual assault, their word, is different from other crime because it's reported less often. According to RAINN 310/1000 reported sexual assault cases are reported to the police according to the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) of the Bureau of Justice in the US. I can't find a reference to how sexual assault is defined for those completing the survey. The Bureau of Justice web site sa…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 06:42 PM
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And women use health insurance three times more than men before age 50. Some say it's because they learn the system during childbirth but it's a fact. Feminists fought hard and this was one of the first things they changed when they gained power in 1970. Now they say it's equal. Men are subsidizing women's health. Conclusions: Women have higher medical care service utilization and higher associated charges than men. Although the appropriateness of these differences was not determined, these find…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 10:45 AM
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I believe the article says the text messages and other social media posts help him win his case. Keep your records.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 01:41 AM
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This is not privilege this is a civil war. And men and women are being very brave protesting against these heavily armed Taliban men. From the article: At that rally, in the eastern city of Jalalabad, demonstrators lowered the Taliban's flag and replace it with Afghanistan's tricolor. Three people were subsequently shot dead.
/r/MensRights19/08/21 07:58 PM
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Good thing you didn't say she was abusive as your text implies. I had full custody from 9months-3.5 years, then 50/50 until my son was around 11. Then she decided to marry her boyfriend and wanted to move 3 states away. I said no. I provided evidence of say "lack of ethics" on her part. Some pretty nasty "videos" she did. But I never said it affected her parenting. I honestly didn't know if I should present it. My attorney advised me to present the evidence. The judge fined me 3K dollars for pre…
/r/MensRights19/08/21 07:51 PM
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Yes, this is the very definition and proof of the gynecocentrism in our society. As early as the eighties people considered women better and now we've had 40 years of constant attacks on mens very nature as a sub-species. This is why society doesn't believe men are good for anything. A well funded carefully executed feminist invention.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 03:16 PM
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They are determined to destroy mens ability to congregate with each other without women controlling what is said and who it said too. More thought control on the part of feminists. The more there needs to be a site like this.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 03:12 PM
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it's illegal to hire on the basis of sex. Apply, get rejected and file a complaint. Get other men to do the same. Complaining here get's you nothing. This kind of thing has to be fought on a case by case basis. Similar to the guys from NCFM filing cases against ladies nights in bars.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 02:07 PM
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What's going to happen to Spain, Sweden, Canada and other countries with feminist foreign policies? Will they go to war with the new Taliban Caliphate to free women? Let our young men and women go die in a desert so girls can go to school? I imagine they will not recognize the new Taliban state and cut off foreign aid but that's as aggressive as it will get. While I'm a MensRights activist I still care about women and girls. This is a terrible things for the women and girls in Afghanistan. These…
/r/MensRights16/08/21 02:05 PM
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So should men in the US commit suicide when they are sent to prison for failure to pay child support because there are almost as many rapes man on man than in free society man on women rape?
/r/MensRights16/08/21 01:56 PM
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This fact is well known and widely publicized. No one cares. People like it. It's payback for men working hard and supporting their families. We can't let young women think that marriage will improve their lives so we must make all men losers or women will not continue to vote feminist.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:46 AM
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Or do what my friends ex-husband did. Don't work for 4 years prior to the divorce, take care of the kids. Send her off to work then entice her to leave you by being a giant dick. Then when she breaks and leaves file for divorce, custody, child support, and alimony. Which is is currently happily receiving...and not working. But he's really smart, MENSA member.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:36 AM
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I did that twice. The minute they could get out of working neither of them ever worked again. Even though I wasn't married long to either one, 6 years and 4 years, neither one every worked again. My alimony was for half as long as the marriages. One went on disability and the other re-married $$$ dollars.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:30 AM
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Go see a lawyer now before she figures out that by denying you visitation she can increase her child support award. Get that 50/50 custody plan set in cement by a judge as soon as possible. This will greatly reduce your child support payments and, more importantly guarantee you access to your children. Expect her to get upset once you start fighting this and block you seeing the child.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:23 AM
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I'm sure they will find the biggest barrier is child care for female long haul truckers. I'm sure they'll recommend more women get paid 15/hr to watch these children rather than incentivize the father's to have more time with their children because that might lower child support. The system is designed to benefit women and hurt men at every option.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 11:13 AM
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This is a man tax to pay for single mothers to have babies. Single mother rate in the US rose from 7K to 15K between 1970 and today. Split workdays for men and women so fathers and mothers can take off work to care for kids. Increased paternity leave so small children have both their mothers and fathers home with them, like in Europe. Then default 50/50 equal shared parenting on divorce would allow men and women to take shorter work weeks to each cover seeing the children. And getting rid of the…
/r/MensRights16/08/21 10:54 AM
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Maybe some can do into computer technician jobs servicing all the automated systems that make these trucks run. It's a lot of hardware issues as these units need regular upgrading. Something creative like that will arise.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 10:41 AM
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They Hayden Rider is sexist on the face of it. It was put in to satisfy Phyllis Schlafley. Women have come far since then. Their special carve outs have been shown to be sexist. Even now wants female conscription. No on the Hayden Rider.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 10:36 AM
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I'm a more socially liberal libertarian and I support the LGBTQ+ community. A friends son just came out at 30. I'm trying to encourage him to accept his son without reservations, that it would help their relationship. My friend is a little weirded out.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 12:28 AM
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My opinion is that a man should have to pay child support for children born after the split. But I like the Scandinavian Model where men have very much more custody and child support is what it takes to raise the kids. But they are socialist. I could tolerate that if I got to see my kids default and culturally women don't fight for custody because it's also about child support. And,, if you watch Divorce Corp you'll see that even in Norway they know that divorce in the US and especially custody …
/r/MensRights15/08/21 10:31 PM
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And feminists learned that they could lie about any crazy thing at all and people will believe it. Woman good, men bad is still the common belief in our society.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 08:18 PM
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When I was around 30 I lived with a single mom and her 6 month old daughter for 3 years. When the breakup eventually came it was her daughter I missed and that's what broke my heart. The little girl was devastated as well. A single mom see's you as a convenience, a free baby sitter, an ATM. But her doesn't commit and her life is mobile, Today I might be still paying child support for that child I'd never see. It was that experience that lead me to want to have my own child so I remarried but mad…
/r/MensRights15/08/21 07:26 PM
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Mary Katherine Letourneau?
/r/MensRights15/08/21 07:16 PM
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I would ask her how much she's charging. That's generally a pro move.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 07:12 PM
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Back in the old days, raised prior to 1970, the feminist revolution the idea that thinking of another women when you were making love to your wife was questionably sort of cheating. I remember having to concentrate really hard with my ex-wife to not think of any other women than her. Crazy ideas are not new to our current times. But this idea is fake.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 07:10 PM
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Feminists control entire governments. That's what we are fighting against. I'm surprised they allow this MRA outpost to exist, oh wait, we're on borrowed time.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 04:16 PM
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Defend men and you will be fired and banned. The dark ages of the gender war is on. Feminism is more of a religion that can't stand questioning than a political philosophy. How far will it go? Will people who defend men be jailed? In some religions your are exiled from society or even tortured or killed. Is that the future for men that question women's rise as the superior class?
/r/MensRights15/08/21 04:12 PM
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This is classical workplace harassment. You get treated like shit at work because you refuse sex. Next time document everything. Keep a file in your desk and write down when these inappropriate come ons occur and date and sign it. Then document the retaliation. It's the best you can do. Then sue if you feel you can't take it anymore.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 12:01 PM
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I recently went to see a male psychologist and when he asked me my family history and told him I raised my son 50/50 he got visibly upset. He seemed to think I ripped someone off or did something illegal. He went on to lecture me about how horrible most men are in marriage that he heard tons of horror stories from women. I dropped him like a live grenade.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 11:49 AM
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You work in a very woke place. You'd better learn the etiquette as you're already on thin ice. Consider getting a job less stressful gender wise.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 11:44 AM
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It's a good thing feminism is about equality. And, I guess aping the worse things women accuse men of, like cheating. That's what's so harmful about the lies feminists tell about men. The make up these stories of the bad things men do then teach their adherents that they can now do these invented behaviors as payback for centuries of men cheating on women. It's a sick ideology.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 11:34 AM
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I also don't like two things. First, it's pretty whiney trying to justify mens. existence. It's a silly thing to do and can only be a reaction to equally silly things feminists say like men are useless. Second, women are moving into more and more fields and proving they have what it takes. Women could do these male dominated construction/maintenance work but they decided to go to college so they are all administrative assistants and managers.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 03:06 AM
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I think that's what r/MensRights is all about. Working as a team to help solves men's problems as men. And the women who love us.
/r/MensRights15/08/21 03:00 AM
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Feminists love to mock men. Masculinity, men are always a problem. Either masculinity is fragile or toxic. Femininity is always virtuous. Ignore them.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 05:03 PM
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So men shouldn't share their experiences? How keep it inside toxic masculinity of you. Men shouldn't respond to attacks on our sex coming constantly in an organized fashion to brainwash men and women to hate men? The brainwashing is working as men themselves are trying to sink this sub. If you want articles about solutions to men's problems maybe it's because whenever men suggest a solution feminists on TwoX and all the main stream media attack these men. Want to see your children? You're just d…
/r/MensRights14/08/21 02:07 PM
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“All men are rapists, and that's all they are. They rape us with their eyes, their laws, their codes.” Marilyn French-Famous and much lauded feminist thought leader. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8709479-all-men-are-rapists-and-that-s-all-they-are-they Want the gender war to stop? Stop attacking men.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 01:57 PM
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Well that's not what they say. What they say is what men hear. It leads to all the trauma that lead to sites like this developing. To say all men are rapists is sexist as fuck. Like MGTOWs didn't believe that AWALT, that's what they say and that's what they'll be judged for. To say not all men when a woman is saying all men are rapists or implying because this one person was a male rapist that all men are rapists is an honest correction of a sexist statement. AWALT is sophomoric and a response t…
/r/MensRights14/08/21 01:38 PM
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Feminists say we are all dangerous rapists and murders. We say that isn’t so. We say avoid people in your life that treat you like this. After years of this some rare demonized men lash out at feminists and then feminists say we are the problem. We are just pointing out the problem. Maybe the problem is the constant misandry churned out by feminists. And how that drives some men to depression and suicide. Times like this call for reflection on both sides.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 01:10 PM
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He feels he owes her sex. Men all know that refuse a woman sex is dangerous. That’s probably why he feels weird. He should stay far away.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 12:58 PM
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Men's voices against misandry. There are plenty of men who don't believe in men's right's or that there is anything wrong with feminism that are willing to fight their wars and even make rules to silence us or even arrest and kill us. They have vast armies at their disposal. Feminists are part of government. They are the government.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 12:06 PM
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It's not sexist to say that testosterone affects men and estrogen affects women and therefore they react differently in different situations. Gender is a construct, sex is a biological fact. Male's act similarly throughout the animal kingdom. Humans are no different. Males are more aggressive physically than females and so if you want a war, rile up the men and they'll volunteer to fight. They are worried we are creating "rebels without a cause". Young men disaffected by society who find a new s…
/r/MensRights14/08/21 11:19 AM
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Misandry isn't real because men are really a group to be hated. That's what I got out of that article. Hate is love to a hater.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 11:08 AM
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So Psychology Today things giving one side in a dispute absolute veracity based on just their word can be misused? Wow, they are really going out on a limb here. I wonder what kind of blow back their going to get.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 02:32 AM
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I think it's crazy to have sex with a girl that's been drinking at all. Dry sex is consensual sex. Use a condom. Your condom. But bringing a girl home is a crap shoot. Choose wisely. I tell my son that you know when a girl wants to have sex. But I never had to really tell him that. He knows it. It's just that you never know the girl. Morning after regret sex is best avoided by getting to know one another a little and again, not drinking.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:21 PM
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Social change? Change in laws? Social justice is a word that was coopted by feminists. I don't use feminist definitions. They are meant to steare the conversation.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:13 PM
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He should whip out his camera. It will be like a cross to a vampire. Many are suggesting to hit them back. Super bad idea. He'll be suspended before he get's out his response to administration. And one idiot had to say "you lucky bastard". At least most believe it could happen. That's a change I've seen over time.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 09:45 PM
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I listened to the tape of him singing to the 25 year old woman in his office during a telephone call. He was ridiculous. He did seem to be coming on to her. If you want to call "wooing" "grooming" then, from the evidence, I'd say he's probably guilty. Do I blame a man his, 63, age being attracted to a 25 year old, no. But society will blame you. She knew what she was doing in her TV interview. Very polished and very proud. Not looking hurt, more angry but really more proud. And do men really sti…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 09:37 PM
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I did that about a year ago. What I found was a brew of self hate, depression and a longing for love, not just sex. They say sex, but if you read them a sex worker will not solve their problem. They think they deserve to be loved. The problem could be the old idea that there is someone for everyone and everyone should seek someone who loves them as their main goal in life. That is not true, IMO. Romantic love is not the end all be all of life.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 09:00 PM
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You can consider yourself what you like but you're not an incel. You just have standards. You don't feel like you will never be loved. Incels are so violent, IMO, because it's love they seek, not sex. They feel that they can never know love and it drives them crazy. Maybe testosterone and incel propaganda is a dangerous combination. This is not the first incident.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 08:50 PM
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I once went on a date with a women who put her picture from the pussy hat parade on her dating site. It didn't bother me and I saw no reason whey two people interested in social justice shouldn't get along. I was very careful and said nothing to raise her hackles but finally I had to say that women spend much more on health care than men and yet feminists fought for them to pay the same insurance. The insurance industry makes money by charging those who use insurance more and how that "seemed in…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 08:43 PM
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I support and am very happy women are getting access to education in large numbers and the jobs they desire. But I don't think I deserve a lollipop. It's common sense and something in the US that was never really debated, some objected for sure, but increased access to things for women was accepted as soon as it was asked in the last 50 years since second wave feminism. I also think it's common sense that men deserve different roles than in the past like being an active parent. The stereotype is…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 08:30 PM
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The use of force, threat of force or coercion to have sex with someone. That includes made to penetrate.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 08:17 PM
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It's psychological training and warfare in action. It's on purpose. It's meant to make you feel bad, like you're less of a human. It's meant to make you react. The more angry men get the quicker they'll close down men's voices. Stay cool, it's all a political game to them.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 07:41 PM
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Women in that thread make the point that their fear of men being violent, just as men fear men being violent, justifies women attacking all men as being inherently violent. With men being trained that being useful is all that is important, and that use is mainly in marriage as a good husband and father, all women have to do to a man in the west is divorce him in an aggressive manor. Then he will just kill himself. What many ex-wives openly state is their goal in divorce. Eight times more men kil…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 07:36 PM
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And Biden is trying to undo them by replacing DeVos with a feminist. His most recent proposal openly states she is against due process for men. Things can easily go either way on this one. I'm keeping my ear to the ground. Interestingly I notice my conservative family is favoring men's issues and see feminism as being distinctly anti-family. I'm a libertarian and not a conservative, if anything I'm socially liberal, but not progressive. My son is progressive. I'm not happy about the mens' moveme…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 05:30 PM
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I'm glad you see there is a problem with schools becoming very unwelcoming for boys. I also couldn't find data on how many college professors call themselves feminists but here from wikipedia it says: According to Abrams, the ratio of liberal to conservative professors was highest in New England, where this ratio was 28:1, compared to 6:1 nationally.[34][35] So the vast majority on campus are liberal and feminists are a liberal group so it would be unusual for these campus administrators quoted …
/r/MensRights13/08/21 05:08 PM
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This fact, that women are more frequently child abusers than men is very important to the entire men's right's debate and is the main reason I became a men's right's advocate. Sorry if I'm passionate about it. It's the best argument men have for default 50/50 custody. The children are not alright with default female 100% custody. Women can't handle it and men are committing suicide because they miss their kids.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 03:13 PM
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Sorry, typo, fixed it. Thanks.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 03:11 PM
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Do we ask why men beat women more than women beat men? No. Men beating women is bad. Women abusing children is bad. Saying, well, they have to deal with children more is victim blaming. Pure and simple. No child deserves to be abused, either physically, usually by neglect, or emotionally. No excuses. No, well, their little monsters. Sorry. On this there is a right a wrong. Sorry morally ambiguous feminists. If woman can't care for children without abusing them, give them to men to raise, there a…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 03:07 PM
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They are getting tuition mainly from females now. That's part of why colleges are hostile to men. Women are taught from young girls to be hostile to men, do it all through K-12 and want to continue it in college. These women's mothers were raised feminist and mainly after 1970. I bet college administrators are 90% feminist. Having been a university professor for my entire professional life I can attest to it. So by replacing administrator in the direct quote you have: Feminists are starting to w…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 02:57 PM
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I couldn't find the advert but I did find this feminist laugh about it. It was a great little Easter egg of playful misandry https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2015/02/81670/sarah-silverman-chelsea-handler-sorry-its-a-boy-ad
/r/MensRights13/08/21 02:50 PM
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"Isn't aways the norm." The norm we usually mean average. It is the norm for women to marry more than them. Surveying large groups of people showed this. That's research. Your situation is unique to you and is not the norm. And so is less useful data for predicting what the reader here could expect following your example.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 02:42 PM
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Things are not better, your case is the most common. It sounds like you see this as something you can win. You cannot. Best is to avoid your ex forever. If that means seeing the kids less so be it. Use your money for you now. Don't give it to more lawyers. You kids will come back to you as adults most likely. After age 25. As it is, if you continue to fight your children are already saying they don't want to see you. Either your upsetness is showing to them or they've been alienated by your ex. …
/r/MensRights13/08/21 02:20 PM
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As early as 1962, when the "I Love Lucy Show" was made, Desi Arnez, Lucy's husband put a clause in his contract that his character, Lucy's husband Ricky Ricardo, should not be an idiotic dolt. So this is nothing new. Perhaps women feel they have to attack men to feel equal. Sounds like someone with low self esteem but who cares. TV sucks and movies and TV are just brainwashing tools mainly to buy stuff and these days to buy into the idea that men and women are at war. Women good, men bad. Only i…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 02:10 PM
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No I get the joke, I'm just going to answer anyone who says being a parent is the most difficult job because I did it and can't speak from personal experience. It's a myth that must die.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 01:59 PM
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I was a single father, worked at a hard professional job and loved it. I raised my son alone from 9 months to 3.5 years. Best time of my life. Don't believe feminists, they have a vested interest in their constituency, women.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 01:38 PM
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What he describes is what most men do. I did. Then when my wife left I got full custody. Any man who has a child and, stay at home or not, let's his wife take the child away from him while married, in other words doesn't let him parent the baby, is getting groomed for a divorce in which she get's full custody and he never see's his kids. If you are brave enough to have children today remember that the custody case starts at the time of the OB visits. You have to go to those or it will be used ag…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 01:37 PM
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They are driving men out of education creating pink ghetto's, mere finishing schools for women. Still, more men should go to college, damned women. Stay to yourself, avoid relationships and kick ass in school. That is the best way to earn more and retire early. Trades are great, but college is better. Unless trends continue, then I imagine desk jockey will become the new woman's work.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 01:25 PM
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I guess we know why they are retaliating against us. When they see you as a real threat, not going away, they silence you. Then people listen to you more intently as they know you're onto something. Men's right's have been an inform and raise consciousness mode for the past 13 years. It seems like it's working. And that's why feminists are freaking out and want to ban our speech. To late, the cat is out of the bag all over the world. The regular news describing how psycho the west is about attac…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 01:19 PM
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I said quotes about encouraging pedophilia and rape. You moved the goal posts proving you're just a feminist trying to get this site banned. Please fuck off.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 12:55 PM
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Higher education discriminates against men, but Title IX complaints may change that https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/02/12/colleges-universities-discriminate-men-title-ix-complaints-toxic-masculinity-column/2831834002/ Higher education has a gender problem: With a surplus of women and a shortage of male students, colleges are becoming more and more gender unbalanced. The more farsighted among university administrators are starting to worry that this will turn universities into a pink-…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 12:32 PM
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The most dangerous woman is a woman scorned. Be it rejecting her come ons or breaking up with a woman, this is when they will attack. Be very careful how you deal with these women and give them face saving reasons to leave you alone. "I have a girlfriend/wife", "I just broke up and am not ready". Anything to get them away from you without conflict. If you have to, leave the place she's harassing you at. You don't have to have sex to be convicted of rape.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 12:30 PM
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Then granting default 50/50 equal shared parenting seems like the natural best solution so women wouldn't beat their children because they can't take living with them all the time. Single parenting is not that hard, I did it. I never felt the urge to beat my child. Maybe if I were convinced I was a natural born angel I might, but, as a man, I know I am human and I don't let my self get violent when a child needs assistance.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 11:16 AM
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Hi, It's great to see you around. I used to post with you at "Stand Your Ground" many moons ago. Glad to you your still at it.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 11:06 AM
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That's a quote I read in a feminist article yesterday.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:59 AM
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You don't have to, the ones fighting us and banning us are feminists. You're just talking shit to make and argument.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:58 AM
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61% of U.S. women say ‘feminist’ describes them well; many see feminism as empowering, polarizing https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:57 AM
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They always stick to sexual abuse because that's all women can think of. It's not the worst kind of abuse. Emotional abuse of boys and men goes un-noticed to due the empathy strike against men women have been on for over 100 years. The word is out, the genies isn't going back in the bottle. Women have lost their status as sole victims of the imagined society the invented called patriarchy. This is a TED talk by a professor who testifies about this stuff. If they ban this sub such work will conti…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:48 AM
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The only difference between this Russian woman and American women is honesty. American women get more honest as they get older than 50.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:40 AM
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Loosing the children they love more than than their soon to be ex-wives. It's happening a lot less often with 50/50 becoming more common, but it's the worst thing men go through IMO.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:35 AM
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Having excluded men for so long feminists fear colleges are becoming pink ghetto's. Kind of like fancy secretarial schools that teach nothing of value, just girls good, boys bad, for all the girls that would have married but now have to earn a living their entire lives long due to feminists poisoning the well in marriage and relationships.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:30 AM
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Why get married indeed. Gay relationships have the same dynamics. Lesbian relationships are said to have the most interpersonal violence, interestingly.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 05:19 PM
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I think she has pretty smart parents. Her intelligence level, I'm not so sure about.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 03:23 PM
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Pick your battles. Is this a hill worth dying on for you? Then fight. You'll be labelled a trouble maker and it will affect the way teachers and other students see you. It could affect your standing in your class and your future prospects. Standing up for yourself is important and never let them discriminate against you if you're a male at your job, where you earn money, then sue. Want to see your kids and they won't let you, sue, but in this kind of case accepting their double standard may be e…
/r/MensRights12/08/21 03:21 PM
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Men are victims of posters like you who bring this shit here as it makes men look bad. Sure there are places in the world doing immoral things to women. I think it's wrong what these soldiers did. I'm glad it stopped.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 03:16 PM
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Yes, no matter how much you don't want to face the reality that women are just as bad abusers as men, men just do it to women more and women do it to children more, the fact is that women abuse children by ten percentage points more than men. The reason is unimportant if you can't even wrap your mind around the idea that women are humans and sometimes abusive because of 5 decades of brainwashing that woman good, men bad.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:44 PM
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Yes I agree, but that constant drone of patriarchy and daring to use a bust of Lincoln as a bad white men is just becoming back ground noise to me, and I bet most who watch this tripe. The message is about the female basketball team so I ignore the sexism and support the main objective of the message. Getting constantly triggered is what they are going for here.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:18 PM
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Luckily feminists have made it very clear the only change they want men to undergo is to kill themselves or at least feel very badly all the time and hide from women. I am here to help my fellow man complete the egalitarian movement started in the 1970's for sexual equality of outcomes. Specifically 50/50 equal shared parenting.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:13 PM
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While sophomorically funny, it doesn't help us be taken seriously when we make dumb jokes and dehumanize women by saying they are dumber than us.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:10 PM
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Men's issues have all been similar as men have been men always, no doubt. But recent times have seen changes for men and they need to learn the new rules and adjust. Before the industrial revolution of the 19th century most men lived on farms and were farmers. Now we are in the midst of a revolution just as profound. The tech and information revolution. It's great to at least have a seat at the table as men to have a say in how this revolution will affect us.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:06 PM
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Please cite statistics that single fathers do more child abuse than women. That is probably something you made up. Children used to do more child rearing. In Wisconsin from 1990-2008 50/50 custody went from 7% to 42% of custody declarations. Before this, in 1989, Geller found a shocking amount of abuse of children in single mother households in a study of 6000 families. There weren't enough single fathers to tell. That has changed. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/child-abuse-…
/r/MensRights12/08/21 12:46 PM
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Ask Julian Assange. He may die in prison for not reportedly not using a condom when he said he had in Sweden.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 12:11 PM
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Times have changed. The law is no touching and certainly no grabbing of body parts. He should not have run, he should have called the police. All men need to think this way from now on.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 12:10 PM
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If woman want their own hero's who am I to judge? I say, congratulations on their win. I refuse to get triggered by advertising creatives that like to poke the bear of men's right's.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 12:08 PM
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Could be, certainly feminists openly pushing for status as a different class shows that the working class has been split. Marriage rates are the worst in the working class. The upper middle class is still marrying their children. Now management has two classes of workers men and women pit against each other, great for controlling workers.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 12:04 PM
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I don't buy it. It's an old trope marched out every time the fact that far from being angelic, women do most of the child abuse. There is no excuse for child abuse. Saying women see children more often is victim blaming. Those children did not deserve to be abused. After I knew this statistic I became a single parent. I knew many parents. No on abused their children. It's rare and women beat up kids more probably because they are bigger and men beat up women more than women beat up men probably …
/r/MensRights12/08/21 11:58 AM
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Well, 25 years ago, before we had so many single parents the statistics were the same. Back then we said because mom's had to stay home with their kids. It's illegal to abuse a child and motherhood isn't that hard work, I raised my son alone and know what I'm talking about. There's no excuse for child abuse.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 11:51 AM
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So they set out to create a system where it's the opposite. They saw what they think is sexism and set out to reverse it. And no one stood in their way so today, if I were starting a company, I would put the woman's name on the product. When applying for a small business loan from the Small Business Administration, a government agency, I was asked to check a box if this was a female lead business. If I had had a female partner I would surly but her name on it. Sexism circle jerk complete. Now wo…
/r/MensRights12/08/21 11:49 AM
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You should at least get a consultation with a lawyer. You should be able to get this for free. If this stays on your record, and I don't know that it does, it's definitely worth some legal fees to have it removed. If you go near her again then you deserve what you get. You've been warned.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 11:39 AM
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She's just mimicking the programming she hear's daily from music, TV, movies, and. social media that men are bad, women good. And to raise consciousness that this is happening it's worth posting here. Women are pretty useless too. Men can do anything by themselves now that it used to take a couple to do. Like run a house and raise a kid. The sexes need each other less, that's for sure.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 11:34 AM
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Ruqqus-MGTOW is already banned for threats of violence.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 11:30 AM
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When you say feminism is anti-left, what do you mean? In the sense they did not pass the ERA and followed Phyllis Schlafley instead?
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:45 AM
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If you have a child you'd better be ready to be a full time parent. Something can happen to the mother and the father has to step in. It happens all the time. Men do a great job raising kids. And yes, it happened to me. At 9months. Was it weird? A little. Was it hard? No, not at all. I hired a full time nanny 9-5 M-F. Was it the best time of my life? Yes.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:42 AM
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Maybe it's pay back for years of men staring at women's boobs./s Report it and you're going to sound kinda creepy and they might think you imagining it. And will single yourself out as a trouble maker. I did it, I regret it. Put a sock in it and give them a show./s
/r/MensRights12/08/21 12:59 AM
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Men's right's is now big business. When I search for men's issues frequently I see attorneys. There seem to be many attorneys who have clued into the fact that men need legal help in the hyper-legal environment created by feminists for men. And men are winning more and more custody time so lawyers are ramping up for business. Also at least the republican party see's that votes can be had supporting men's issues. It's got a life of it's own now. Feminisms hegemony on describing the truth is over.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 12:55 AM
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To a feminist it is legal and encouraged to abort the pregnancy that comes from rape. Men have to subsidize their rapists by paying child support. Feminists encourage these laws. They control the government and the media, and are getting control of social media. That is why this is a men’s rights issue.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 10:21 PM
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I had 50/50 so no child support. It cost 300K in attorney fees to fight her multi-millionaire new husband in court. That's why I lost my house. I had to sell to pay the attorney fees.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 05:59 PM
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Join other men who are lobbying for changes in laws that are unjust against men. Donate to groups that support your issue, get involved. Go to rallies. That is all you can do. It's an uphill road but right is right and wrong is wrong. It is wrong for you to pay your rapist for enjoying the children that came as a result of her felonious behavior. It may change, but it will take time.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 05:27 PM
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They want any man accused by a woman to be exiled from society across the globe. Never to be forgiven. They are making examples. If you criticize feminists they will make the rest of your life a living hell. You go Johnny, at least this guy has a spine. Honestly, at this point he has no choice. I wish him luck. Let's see who's system is more simp, the UK or the US.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 04:48 PM
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No, it was the same for me. My ex had time to date as we had 50/50. She met a multi-millionaire and, after about 4 years of dating long distance they decided to get married and tried the old, he's better off with a married couple idea on me when they decided to move to his local. I knew it was coming so I documented her frequent trips abroad where she had me take more time with our son. It was 60/40 me/her when we went to court. I printed every email for 4 years and make a large notebook with a …
/r/MensRights11/08/21 04:14 PM
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I raised my son 50/50 and it was great for me, him and my ex. He got to see both of us for significant time each week and has a good relationship with both of us, divorced at 9months, he's now 24. But you have to be flexible. At one point we had to switch to me on school nights so one of us could concentrate on helping with homework. The capitalistic US system with winners and losers has got to be scrapped. I'm convinced that the idea that divorce is a competition, unlike in Scandinavia as descr…
/r/MensRights11/08/21 01:51 PM
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In my case it was my ex wife who announced that I was "mean" to the entire court when they ask her some other question. The DA said "Some custody fights are very hard". That, together with a lot of evidence as I'm an educated man and made sure to collect it, had them drop all charges. This article notices the low amount of guilty verdicts it said only about 25% of cases are clear cut false accusations so it's still a call for more convictions based on numbers not facts. This will lead for more c…
/r/MensRights11/08/21 10:39 AM
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FDS is the home to sex negative feminists. No wonder they choose single women. This is where getting a dollar for dollar extraction from men is all about raising the price of their greatest asset. It's a marketing ploy for a body part. I don't why you guys read that site but I'm sure why the Guardian loves them.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 10:24 AM
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It's part of the constant drum beat that men are bad. Kinda like Gold Digger by Kanye West. Both sexes make disparaging songs in the un announced culture war. Here's a link to the lyrics. https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk014alHFUO\_kW-ab7FiJU1dFiRvzsQ:1628676645720&q=ain%27t+shit+doja+cat&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK2q-n3ajyAhUJXM0KHdYiAtAQBSgAegQIARA2&biw=1680&bih=830#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLVT9c3NCxKT8nOqbJMesRowS3w8sc9YSn9SWtOXmPU5OIKzsgvd80rySypFJLmYoOyBKX4uVB18uxi0ktJTUsszSmJL0lMss…
/r/MensRights11/08/21 10:18 AM
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See, the first thing a woman thinks when you ask her as a stranger for help is that you're a potential rapist/murderer. How far of a leap is it for her, if you glance at her the wrong way or say the wrong thing for her to make the leap that calling the police is her best option?
/r/MensRights11/08/21 10:06 AM
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This happened to two friends of mine. Went work and when one got home he saw the moving truck drive away. She timed it close. The other friend came home to an empty house. And helped her raise her two son's, taking them to therapy. They never saw it coming.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 12:15 AM
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This lead me to look at the wikipedia hit piece. I like the scholar who says that the online based mens groups haven't yet found their voice other than "anti-feminism". As the technological revolution has affected workers as much as the industrial revolution, and it's just happening in the last few decades, there may be many ways in which male and female roles change. As long as there is a feminism, there will be a need for MRAs. That's all I know.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 12:13 AM
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It will get worse. Much worse. Just look at the US. Best to stay safe in these crazy times.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 11:45 PM
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Feminists have been pedaling "well women come into more contact with kids". I don't buy it. Abusing and killing children is not natural if you spend enough time with them. That would be like forgiving husbands that kill their wives by saying...well, he was around her the most. It's victim blaming. This issue was my red pill in 1997. I saw this data in an editorial and it blew my mind. Women abuse children much more than men and most frequently get custody. That was all I needed to know.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 10:17 PM
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It was interesting listening to a recent post about an interview with Andrew Cuomo. In it he says he hopes his daughters will grow up without "stereotypes". Sexual stereotypes are the bread and butter of feminism. There we're very few negative ones about men but in the last 50 years that has changed dramatically. So, yes, the stereotype is men abuse children. That doesn't mean you should avoid children, but many men have said "it would never happen to me" and off to prison they go. Google "The M…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 10:14 PM
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It's OK. Neither men nor women need to be in a relationship and relationships can be good or very bad. Be happy with what you have, don't close off hope for the future. You never know what could happen, but don't plan on getting in a relationship. Stats show marriage rates are the lowest ever, many people feel like you do.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 10:08 PM
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I guess his daughters he calls "Jewels" see him as tarnished now. Just like all the men whose wives accused them of abuse because "it's still very much a man's world". Expecting any help from feminists by apologizing and hitting all their talking points won't get him squat. He was better off saying he's just a handsy Italian. Let him reap what he has sown.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 10:03 PM
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But achieving providing safety studies and equipment for men will decrease the "child tax credit" or whatever it's called, so less money for women's issues. Then this becomes a men's right's issue.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 07:04 PM
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And be careful who you talk to. People can be vindictive and testify against you if you in any way piss them off. Go directly to see an attorney.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 07:02 PM
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Perhaps like maternal mortality was a motivation for men and women to make pregnancy safer, men advocating a safer workplace to do the huge number of male fatalities will lead to change. Certainly expecting the feminist inspired government to even notice these numbers is a waste of time. If it doesn't primarily affect women, an issue is a non-issue. Workplace deaths are a major issue for men.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 06:20 PM
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Thanks for the great video's. Having been an early 50/50 equal shared parenting father from 1997, I can say it's the only way to be in your children's lives without the mother making your life miserable. And damaging the children. Today my son loves both his mom and me. She did not voluntarily agree to 50/50. It was hard and expensive.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 05:58 PM
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Thanks, signed.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 05:22 PM
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This study looked at seeking mental health services for depression after chronic illness, like severe heart disease. They found that men used services 10% less than women, not a large number, but took an additional 3 months to seek services. Perhaps more out reach to men would help, especially after divorce when men's risk of suicide rises 8 times the risk while married. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140626101658.htm I also found this gem from WebMD on getting help for battered m…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 05:14 PM
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And never trust an NDA from a woman to a man.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 05:03 PM
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I tried looking up the numbers but you are correct. They are hard to find. What is easy to find is that the field of psychology is becoming very pink lately. Fifty years ago men were the majority of psychologists and now about 75% of psychologists are woman. These are not just any women, they were raised on the feminist ideology that men are bad and women are good. Even 40 years ago when I first went to marriage counseling they were uninterested in what the man has to say. They support the woman…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 04:50 PM
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It will be worked out. If a real war occurs women will do things they are capable of. Women make fine soldiers in that a majority of military roles are non-combat, like 90%. My good friend did who is 5"10 and 130 lbs and very smart was drafted to do paperwork in Saigon when his female friends were spitting on soldiers marching against the war. They were fully capable of doing paper work. Women should have to register for the draft. That is my only point.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 03:38 PM
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Thanks for helping with the interpretation. In the US about 400,000 total women served in the military and 543 died. About 400,000 US men died in WW2. That's 0.14 % deaths were women versus your reported 1.1%. Nearly 10 times as many women soldiers died in the Russian Army than women soldiers in the US. Of course male soldiers in the US died in small numbers compared to Russian male soldiers. Why millions men need to die doing support duties like driving trucks that women are more than capable o…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 03:18 PM
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I read it right your just attacking me personally because you're losing the debate. It's hard to get exact numbers of women combat fighters in the USSR from way back then but the Israeli numbers are available. If only 10% of military roles are combat roles and 4% of combat roles are held by women and women make up half the military then there are a lot of non-combat roles women can fill. Why is that not important? Because it is. Woman should pull their weight in times of war. From History Channe…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 02:42 PM
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The internet says 800,000 women served in the Russian army. That's a lot. How am I supposed to know where you're from and because of your imagined national background you're right that a women can't be in the military. I bring facts, you bring name your suppositions without any numbers then a link in Russian. Try facts and logic. I have a reference saying 5% served and that was 800,000 women. Not a drop in the bucket. Nearly a million women. The US only lost 400K troops in the entire second worl…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 01:30 PM
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5% of Russian Soldiers were women and they did very well. Some saying they made a real difference between victory and defeat. https://www.google.com/search?q=what+percent+of+russian+soldiers+were+women&oq=what+percent+of+russian+soldiers+were+women&aqs=chrome..69i57.10648j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 And 4% of Israeli combat fighters are female. https://www.google.com/search?q=how+well+do+isreali+women+do+in+combat%3F&oq=how+well+do+isreali+women+do+in+combat%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57.15238j0j15&sou…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 01:09 PM
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Sorry, didn't mean to use any quotes, not a user of quotes on this system. Just ignore the quotes you and deal with the content you so carefully are ignoring as you lose the argument. Because your wrong.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 12:51 PM
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How convenient. When I kill you it's murder, when you kill me it's taking out the trash. So we are not humans to them. At least they let you know they're your enemies.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 12:30 PM
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He lied and said he was looking for a relationship. That's a lie and that's fraud. He's going to go to jail for fraud.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 12:26 PM
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If a woman goes on three dates a week, that's pretty average in the 25-35 age group, that's 12 weeks to get to the 36 free dates. At an average of 100 dollars/date women are stealing, per woman, an average 3600 dollars per women per quarter in the US from men. That's about 40 million people people in the US ages 25-35, or 20 million women. If 30% are single then 6 million women times 3500 dollars a quarter or 21.6 billion dollars changing hands from men to women per quarter (3 months) just for d…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 12:25 PM
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Yes, men on here are sexists against men. Of course, like was proven in Russia during WWII and in Israel, women make fine soldiers and should be drafted along with men.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 12:10 PM
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I think a 130lb female body can stop a high powered AK-47 round just as well as a 180lb male body. With body armor, they both suffer the same risk. Pulling a trigger is not to hard for a female. Flat out runs over long periods are rare and there are plenty of slow men. Lifting will be mainly a male activity, make backpacks of the lightest new material and women can handle that. There is no reason that biologically women cannot perform in the military and I'm not surprised at all the white knight…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 12:09 PM
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There are still male therapists. I would never see a male therapist.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 12:01 PM
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Can you please point to one quote where pedophilia and rape should be legalized posted by the MGTOW community ever? Men are men's worst enemy at every level. A marriage strike was all MGTOW ever was.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 11:56 AM
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That's why I fight for default 50/50 shared parenting. So fathers can no longer be excluded and son's don't end up in prison or drifting through life.
/r/MensRights10/08/21 11:49 AM
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Makes you think feminist psychologists help design this feminist system by which men are made to feel double bad, all the bad and none of the good, while women feel double good, everything they do is good and when they do bad...it's good because of patriarchy. Psychology has been in bed with feminism since the beginning. Notice how we no longer have the freudian mother generating psycho-pathology any more. Yes we are more med based in our thinking but psychologists will now just ask a women what…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 11:22 AM
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I've been single for a while and am very socially involved with my family so they'll be there when I pass on.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 10:50 PM
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We all die alone, some in a hospital, some in a hospice, some a nursing home, some lucky few at home. I'm going to worry about the end, except the near end when I'm trying to avoid a nursing home.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 10:23 PM
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Keep him away from too much computer games. The one regret I have as a parent is not encouraging my son to read more.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 07:38 PM
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This is great news and a testament to the hard work DeVos did in enacting these regulations. We can all hope that President Biden will not successfully replace her with a feminist ideologue.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 07:29 PM
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That's terrible. Sorry he has this performance anxiety. I did very well in school but 100 is a rarely achievable goal. I drove myself crazy trying to get into professional school and it took it's tool on me long term. Find alternative educational outlets for him. I took early college courses in Junior High School. I did very well there. I only went to high school to learn to properly socialize. Back then, before the confidence crises that feminists said girls went through in Junior High School g…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 07:18 PM
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"Men are idiots". The rantings of a man hater, a bigot. All the evidence you need.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 07:10 PM
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So if I use the word some every time I say anything then you'll agree with me some of the time? Generalizations are important when using language and logic. Saying biological females can compete with transexual females based on this one example is a true statement. No matter how many times I use the word "some".
/r/MensRights09/08/21 07:09 PM
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Feminists say over 90% of rape allegations are true, it's just that men find ways to rape and get away with it. Our idea of defending ourselves if accused is abhorrent to them. We are to just line up and take the bullet so all women everywhere can convict a man based on her word alone. No evidence.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 06:45 PM
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Equality in some things. What ever words you want to use/misuse. Women wanted to work and have sexual freedom. They called this equality and I am all for it. I have no interest in the matter and people can do as they please in a free country. It's when they say men should pay for it that I draw the line. But my big issue is custody, I support 50/50 equal shared parenting so come here to espouse that. Raise consciousness. To me that is about equal human rights.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 06:43 PM
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That's one way to say you disagree. One example, a prominent example is not nothing, and the readers know that. Just admit you disagree, then we can bring up evidence, as I did.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 06:19 PM
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If you question advancing women in the workplace you'll be derailed until it blows over then fired. Men, you don't have to believe this stuff but like a Jew in Germany, it's best to lie about your politics at work.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 06:17 PM
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Yes, SouthPark was the best for finding MRA examples. A heard an expert discuss this. The theory is that when men take estrogen for more than a year, their muscle mass drops so low that their larger frames become a problem. This transexual woman losing is proof that biological females can compete and win over transfemales with much larger frames. This is the thinking of the olympic committee and that's why you have to prove your on estrogen for a year to compete as a transwoman.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 05:24 PM
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Surely the mass delusion that women are mistreated in the West is part of our problem. It implies men are doing the mistreatment and get's our legitimate outlets, like r/mensrights should be shut down. I think the idea that there will be a societal collapse is something that some MRAs are guilty of. I don't subscribe to the idea we live in clown world and that some sort of horrible apocalyptic event is about to happen. I see a gradual equalization of men and women in our society and that's a goo…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 05:04 PM
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I appreciate your empathy. And your right, full equality is not here yet by a long shot but progress is being made and no one is asking them to stop. No MRA I've ever read seriously wants to stop feminist advances. I've never heard anyone calling seriously, not as a joke, for women to have the right to vote removed. Perhaps such jokes are still to early 100 years later. As far as bank accounts go, I don't know about that but women definitely weren't allowed full property rights 100 years ago. An…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 04:58 PM
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I didn't say you hate men. I said your self identified group, feminists act as if they hate men. Women haven't been considered property in the West for hundreds of years. You can't bring up the ancient past to justify feminist excesses in the West like disadvantaging boys in school and ignoring the wide college gender gap in enrollment. Women are unique in having to bear children, for now. The artificial womb will change that. Much progress is being made. Men here can't wait for the male birth c…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 04:16 PM
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Currently we have to the power to not click on their links. What next, we have to read TwoX or FDS front page and click and "read" button before we access r/Mensrights? I wouldn't put it past them.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 03:23 PM
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Because feminists are pissed off there were and are men who say "grab them by the pussy" and so they're over compensating by giving it back to men so hopefully men won't say that about women anymore. It doesn't work as men are just being dicks and the women are being intentionally sexist. The sexism shows and is making feminists look bad...especially to men.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 03:21 PM
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Me too, and from TwoX where I've never posted. In fact I never posted anywhere but MGTOW , MGTOW2 and MRA. Perhaps they're trying to expose us to the "facts" as they see it.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 03:15 PM
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People are starting to speak up as feminism is clearly a crazy overblown and bloated ideology, and that's great, but your sexual problems are yours. I don't know any woman that wants a man having sex with her that doesn't even like her because she's a female. Women should also not have sex with men they don't like or respect. They do but it's wrong. And now can you blame women for liking feminism when it's made great strides of bringing women everything they said they wanted 50 years ago, sexual…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 03:09 PM
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And with a slap in the face of trans-exclusionary feminists, it's people who "identify as females", giving feminists a taste of their own gender crazy medicine.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 02:59 PM
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Again feminism and cancel culture become synonymous. On the bright side a transgender woman was allowed to compete in weight lifting and didn't win. How is it that a woman beat a man at weight lifting? Maybe all the stereotypes are wrong? Maybe transwoman are more womanly than some women? This hurt the TERFs more than stopping the 50Km race event hurt men.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 02:42 PM
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White men are about 30% of the population and hold a disproportionate number of leadership positions, about 60%. With women earning 60% of college degrees for the last 30 years and woman and men between ages 35-35 having nearly identical incomes, a 3% wage gap, it seems women will overtake men in leadership positions soon. As an MRA and a supporter of women's equality, I say, great, women have worked hard and deserve to get ahead. What about the fact that women earn 90% of custody in divorce acc…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 02:36 PM
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Well that's 1.2 million for men's issues and Melinda Gates is donating 1 billion to women's right's issues. That says it all in a nutshell. https://time.com/5690596/melinda-gates-empowering-women/
/r/MensRights09/08/21 01:05 PM
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Here we have another article written by a feminist who is now attacking to the boys from Covington Catholic High School that had that incident with the Native American Activist as Male Supremacist Terrorists because they originally were advocating against abortion. So this feminist then equates being anti-abortion with being and anti-feminist, anti-female terrorist. This will be the petard they try to hang us on and that's why the word hate speech is what their accusing us of. https://medium.com…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 12:57 PM
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Since Anti-feminist=misogynistic at Reddit then at Reddit, this statement is true, but only at Reddit, YouTube or the National Organization of Women.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 12:23 PM
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The world isn't fair. Get used to it. One of the things we can change in r/MensRights is to stop blaming god, or nature, for making the world unfair between the sexes. That's something men learned from feminists and it doesn't sell well. Not for them or us. Not all men can have models with PhDs and not all woman can be made rich from marrying an NFL quarterback. Look to your advantages in life and count your blessings.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 12:19 PM
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You can't make women like short men. I'm overweight. I'm not angry women don't find me as attractive as when I was a thin guy. If I want to change things I could diet but then I look like a skinny old guy. Both unattractive. But I don't blame women for it. And what would be the point if I did? It would make me out to be unreasonable. No one will support you trying to get women to data/fuck men who are not attractive to them.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 12:05 PM
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Is there any more reason to complain about reddit? We are here on borrowed time, reddit made their decision, they are radically feminist. Let's make the most of our remaining time here and try to make a difference for me, gloves off. Let them know we're pissed. They are afraid of us and show it by attempting to ban us.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 11:58 AM
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Until 50/50 default equal shared parenting and the acceptance that men may need a shelter to leave to with the children if the wife/mother is getting violent, it is unsafe for men to have children in the West where feminism is the de jour religion.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 11:28 AM
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I found it to be a horror movie about what women have become, and the theme is a disgusting appeal to women who want revenge against hook-up culture were our capitalist women were ripped off and didn't even get paid for giving away easy sex. And to spread even more fear of women into men who are, by now, terrified of what a random woman can do to you. Feminists are unconcerned it portrays women as psychopaths. They want men to see women as dangerous psychopaths and be afraid of them. And, men sh…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 11:21 AM
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He's an adult. If you contact him he may be upset as he wasn't told he was adopted. My mother didn't find out until age 17 when going for her drivers license. It devastated her and now, at 90, it still haunts her. It's up to your son. I have a friend who just got hit up for child support of a child he never knew existed, now in late teens. He's thrilled and his now discovered so and he have met a few times and have a good relationship. He's not upset at sending 700/month for child support as he …
/r/MensRights09/08/21 11:13 AM
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This is part of an advanced campaign to dehumanize males. Women have for decades considered themselves a different social class than men. This is how they propose we are different. We are lesser anything we do that is positive is defamed, and anything we do that is negative is magnified. This is, no doubt, contributing to the men's mental health and suicide crisis so is very much a male issue. The answer, teach men to be proud of themselves again. And if we do, we are accused of male supremacy. …
/r/MensRights09/08/21 11:07 AM
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We are making head roads into male consciousness of men's issues. This is why they want use banned. All we have to do is keep telling the truth without fear, be brave, as men are already starting to vote men's issues in the US.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 11:03 AM
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No, it was a tongue in cheek attack on men because men should stop other men from raping and if any woman ever fears rape, then all guys are guilty and we should have a curfew of 10pm at night for men roaming the streets. If feminists wanted this they currently have the power to achieve it.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 10:58 AM
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He won't date an admitted serial false accuser: False accusations do not happen. He's a misogynist.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 10:56 AM
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You have been dehumanized by feminist propaganda. Complain to the trains ticket man and watch you be imprisoned for sexual harassment as they make a story, always to be believed, that you were oogling them. That you're a creep. And then be asked to leave the train. And so it is complete, you are a second class citizen. The feminist revolution roles on.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 10:32 AM
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I think the right, under Trump, has coopted the manophere simply by paying attention to us. I did a survey this past weekend of opinions. A conservative women voted Cuomo not guilty, a male liberal said, he's looking for evidence, a female progressive feminist said guilty. Conservatives have made in roads into campus false rape crisis and support the idea that men deserve rights. Do they still think of us as units to serve the ecomony, definitely yes. Are we supposed to get married and support a…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 10:13 AM
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Libertarian left leaning socially
/r/MensRights09/08/21 10:00 AM
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They've turned male/female cooperation into exploitation.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 02:10 AM
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In the US fathers have few rights. In over 90% of cases women win 100% physical custody according to the 2013 census. While 50/50 physical custody is becoming more common, male only custody is still very rare. If you tell her she's a bad mom you can forget about seeing your child once it's born. If she doesn't agree with what ever plan you finally come up with she can make you and your child's life a living hell. She has many tools to do this with and will be enforced by the family court where t…
/r/MensRights08/08/21 05:41 PM
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Are any of you watching Cuomo? It is not ok to touch a woman in public ever it seems. I don't have problem with that.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 04:27 PM
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I think women laugh at perspectives like this that they should forgo an education to keep from becoming ho's and loud mouthed feminists. It's to stop this kind of thing that they invented feminism. And I support the idea that men and women are about equal.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 12:41 PM
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Disagreeing. with feminists = misogyny Feminists main tool is lying, exaggerating. How can we not be misogynistic in their eyes?
/r/MensRights08/08/21 10:49 AM
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Oh, I agree. I'm one of those weird MRA's that likes to consider myself a feminist. I'm all for equality and am happy women are achieving a lot of their stated goals in 1970. I'm all for feminism and want as many women to work as would like to. Men should be relieved of the toxic burden of supporting a family. And that is happening. Great. But default 50/50 custody is not a thing so men can't safely have children. That is the kind of reason I am here.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 02:51 AM
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It's because of successes like this they are trying to shut us down. Be strong. That is what men do when faced with adversity. Stay the course. Pink ghetto...I like it.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 02:46 AM
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I don't think it's careless words. I think it's much deeper than that. I don't think feminist propaganda can stand up to inspection and that is a basic problem in the entire manosphere.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 02:40 AM
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In the case of of child custody, feminism is truly the. enemy of men who love their children. Heralded as bringing in an era of equality, women soon faught against shared parenting and still do. Fathers rights activists are making great strides in gaining default 50/50 shared parenting in many states. So, yes, we fight against feminists. They are a labor union representing women. They can never go against the best interests of the mother.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 02:38 AM
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You're right. Politicians have professional writers to help them craft political messages. All we have is raw experience of thousands of men. I've learned to forgive some ranting on the part of an upset man that is just starting to see the light.
/r/MensRights08/08/21 02:30 AM
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I agree and that’s why MGTOW is the way it is and feminists need to destroy it. That’s why it needs to continue. It’s working. Men are getting our message, our budget is zero. Feminists spend millions on TV advertising. MRAs are just starting to get traction but it will take decades for men to get real changes like equal representation in college and default equal 50/50 shared parenting.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 07:51 PM
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To say not all men are rapists is misogynistic according to feminists.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 06:43 PM
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I disagree. I think mother’s and fathers are interchangeable and equally suited to child care. I personally did this and raised my son 50/50 equally with his mom. He turned out fine. He’s in college and has a good relationship with both of us. But I’m unusual and even as early as 6th grade, in 1972, signed up for a nursing course, in 7th grade took sewing over shop and was a ballet minor in college. I’ve always thought men and women were equivalent. Most things can be done equally well by a man …
/r/MensRights07/08/21 05:39 PM
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I agree and have fought daily for men’s rights as women definitely won’t. But why are they standing in our way by shuttering sites fighting to help men, at this point by raising consciousness of men’s issues. Feminists want to kill the child, men’s rights, in its infancy by shuttering some of our main organs for dissemination of information like Reddit. Too late I say, in the last 13 years this sub and others have gotten the word out. The feminist plan is revealed and men and boys are waking up.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 05:28 PM
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Men are doing the work of helping men as it should be. Women are attacking men for it, like banning MGTOW and slating r/men’s rights as being next, which makes feminism look like it not only doesn’t work to help men but stands in the way if it’s one of their ox’s being gored. That’s wrong, IMO.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 05:04 PM
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I agree. I’m more left than right. The men’s movement has been folded under the Republicans tent as the left has made it clear they side only with feminists. And the only progress on men’s issues has only occurred under Republicans who are still helping men fighting for due process on college campuses during sexual assault cases. And what’s normal? Even 50 years ago in 1970 when feminists were granted hegemony in government women were wrongly considered too emotional to be leaders. People actual…
/r/MensRights07/08/21 04:44 PM
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This sub and the entirety of men’s rights is a reaction to feminisms half done agenda. Feminists correctly say men should also benefit from feminism. We’re here to do the heavy lifting of adding rights in custody cases and to keep men up to pace with women who only advocate for women so that currently 60% of college students are women. A huge disparity caused in part by teachers choosing to push girls at school and hold boys back. So talking about the excesses of feminism is men’s rights reason …
/r/MensRights07/08/21 04:33 PM
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Is psychology today crazy people?
/r/MensRights07/08/21 04:14 PM
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Saying the same thing over and over won’t win the debate. Conservative Women tried to form a right wing feminist group, The Independent Woman’s Forum but that only succeeded in getting a lesbian on FOX news. A feminism created by men or men and woman would fail. 20% of women call themselves very feminist, another 40% are somewhat feminists. Feminism is the defacto religion of women the world over. Your going in reverse.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 02:29 PM
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I"m just finishing a post defending that men on a men's right's site need to fight for men's rights as there is a war against men doing on to gain female advantage. That's after 13 years that this site has been here.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 12:51 PM
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The idea of women being wrong about feminism has been roundly rejected but the entire world. MRA's have succeeded in popping the balloon of many feminists lies but not convincing many people we don't need feminism. Women want equality and want to work. They are achieving that and of that I am happy. But men were left behind in area's that are very very important, chiefly, child custody. Feminists got this far by going to war with men. Men responded by forming MRA groups. So you think the way to …
/r/MensRights07/08/21 12:49 PM
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I think feminists are being malicious in their jokes about men's body parts. Probably part of their "get even with men" campaign for liking large breasts or something. IRL I've never heard a woman make fun of a man's penis size but as a guy, I'm probably not let in on those conversations. I'm glad a male feminist is calling out the feminists again for their double standards.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 12:38 PM
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Default. 50/50 equal shared parenting should be the law. Then women like this will have their free time to meet someone new. A point can be made that 100% custody is too much for a single mother, especially one of low intelligence like this mother. It should be noted her boyfriend is also guilty of manslaughter.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 12:33 PM
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Do you have references to how many young men were will known to kill older men to get their older wives? Some people do most anything. The trend is that men like younger women. Ignoring that means you're just being argumentative and that sounds like you're a feminist but perhaps don't know it.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 12:19 PM
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Either your for men having rights on a "Men's Right's" forum or you're not. If you get yourself tangled up in words you'll never get anywhere. Where billionaires are pumping money into women's rights and you don't even acknowledge it's happening, we will lose. It's important for men fighting for men's right's, the exact analogy to feminists, to make donating to men's issues non-controversial. It's already happening, and that's why feminists are so focused on shutting us down.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 12:08 PM
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They say he's worth 800 million. If she got half of what he earned while they were married then that is fair and no on is the winner or loser here. In divorce, everyone loses in the America System.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 12:02 PM
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Firstly they don't like men. Secondly they know men will pass over a 30 something women for a 20 something woman any day of the week. Thirdly, they think they should be able to dictate to younger women as older women are their mentors, in a way. This is how feminism has always worked, it's a giant hen party and those that don't conform get hen picked. But attractive young women gain a lot from getting with older guys sho they don't listen. Until they turn 30, then get very angry at the 20 someth…
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:55 AM
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There are 2 sexes, 343+ genders and 36 flavors of ice cream at Baskin Robbins.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:50 AM
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I was sexually discriminated and physically attacked by a woman supervisor at work because of the power imbalance both sexually and in terms of our positions in the company. I sued and got paid enough to retire. Nothing happened to her. In fact she filed a complaint against me right after she attacked me. Not wanting to defend that is one of the main reasons I left. But I had many witnesses. Still I would have lost saying I felt scared of her. But I did feel scared of what she could do political…
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:46 AM
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Men aren't as good parents as women.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:39 AM
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Clearly, if a man disrobed and chased a woman it would be attempted rape. So, assault for chasing him and with sexual intentions either to get him arrested for rape or actually have some kind of sex with him. Why else would she disrobe?
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:38 AM
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Since no one knows how the re-definition of rape to mean anything a girl in college doesn't like about a sexual encounter has had on the idea that these "rapes" are all true or all false. Feminists were given carte blanche to define rape and so have conveniently made it anything the girl doesn't like. Unwanted...whatever. The feminists say all the accusations are true. Men say we want proof? Who is right? Well, in our legal system proof is the currency of the court. Feminists don't like this and…
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:35 AM
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Liberals have taken the gloves off and have become progressives. Progressives are hard core radicals and don't care what means they use to obtain their ends.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:32 AM
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Where was the father? Why didn't he have 50/50 so she could take some time off to party? Another case of sole custody leading to a child's poor outcome.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:29 AM
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I don't believe in set asides for women but I do believe in equality of outcome. If more men want to win prizes for excellence in writing or any other intellectual activity they can and do win these prizes. I'm sure that 20 years of MRA's saying men should take up trades instead of going to college is partially to blame for men not going to college in nearly as large numbers as women. This fact will probably lead to more woman leaders as that is the stated goal of women encouraging girls to go t…
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:26 AM
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They say us MRA's are extremists. How is feminism not ultra extreme in their rhetoric? How can you fight a gun fight. with a knife? You can't. My extremism is simply to point out feminist extremism. Of that, I am guilty. My view is based on data. Reality. Feminists lionize women who call for a violent end to all men. You don't see feminists saying these vagina warriors were wrong to call for killing all men. They just add, yeah, and they're all rapists too. Here you can judge the reaction of you…
/r/MensRights07/08/21 11:04 AM
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Movember has been adopted by some men as men's month. During this time men grow mustaches in the month of November.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:15 PM
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Franz Kafka's "The Trial" is all you need to read to understand feminism.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 09:26 PM
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Looks like a good book. Here's a summary: https://roybaumeister.com/portfolio/is-there-anything-good-about-men-how-cultures-flourish-by-exploiting-men/
/r/MensRights06/08/21 07:33 PM
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It would be but the definition changed. Rape was not called rape by something like 80% of college students when Mary Koss asked them. She had to redefine their terms so that any kind of unwanted sexual encounter could be considered rape. In that case, it's entirely possible that what we are hearing from feminists is that there are less than 10% of cases of some kind of sex bad stuff that are provably rape. The rest isn't even considered rape and is only considered sexual assault because of an ex…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 07:07 PM
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When the men's rights movement started men went to the forest and banged drums together. This was the Mythopoetic Men's Movement. It didn't catch on. Men can cry if they want but not because feminists say we need to cry. They want us all at r/menslib crying about how our fathers didn't love us. That is what I mean by feminist inspired cry fest. Men suffer from depression, a serious mental health issue brought on, frequently in Western Society by removing of children from the man. Look it up. Bre…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 06:05 PM
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In your opinion. That's good, you're entitled. I disagree. One thing I do find important about how men communicate is through mutual projects. Often only a few words are spoken but when men get together to build something, a great degree of communication, non-verbal, occurs. Older men getting involved with youth projects is a good way to use this information if it weren't toxic to be around children when you're a man in todays times. My father didn't cry, he was a role model. He took me to work …
/r/MensRights06/08/21 05:50 PM
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Did you hear that from a feminist? There is nothing toxic about being a man. Crying is not the sign of being a real man. Having testicles is the sign of being a real man. That's all you need for admission. Cry, whine, be stoic, it doesn't matter to me. Men's mental health is a serious issue that feminists subvert to gain advantage in family court by taking mens children away causing an 8 fold increase in suicides for divorced men. Then lie and tell men that marriage is good for their mental heal…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 05:34 PM
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Feminists hate it that older guys like younger girls and the attraction is reciprocal.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 04:36 PM
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I'm sure the only one that put the idea that women are property of men are the teachers in that classroom. Then they get to say that 90% men are taught that women are the property of men. Completing the circle jerk. Paid for by...Verizon.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 03:00 PM
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Let them have it. I retired at age 50. My son is a feminist so he'll have to learn the hard way.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:41 PM
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The world is over populated, I support this trend.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:38 PM
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90-21= 90% of boys learned to lie on feminist questionnaires to please their teacher. I bet not one boy felt that women are owned as property by men. The other 10% have a problem. They will be punished for not learning to hate themselves. 100% of boys learned that feminists want total and complete mind control of boys and men.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:42 PM
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I think her discounting of his fear is interesting. These are the kind of fascists that want you smiling all the way into the gas chamber. To the boys reading: Don't do it. It's a trap!
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:24 PM
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From reading your link it seems like one guy with white supremacist leanings was a member at MGTOW1 for many years. Then someone at the FBI said MGTOW was a hate site. Then they say they are not going to document the visits to r/MGTOW. This has been said by the Southern Poverty Law Center about the entire men's right's movement for decades. On opinion of MGTOW from someone who is "employed by the government", the FBI is all this is about. Here's the quote: "While at the MGTOW subreddit, SUBJECT …
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:19 PM
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According to the article, he's conservative and when she announced her politics, as feminists are known to do, his "eye's got wide". I'm not sure who left whom but it seemed she was not seeing the red flags...she was "in love".
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:57 PM
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I have a vested interest in seeing more women at work. Less taxes for me. I'm all for more female leaders if it means more women go to work.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:26 PM
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Women are hostile in their sexism against men. Their leaders literally call for the killing of all men. Women cheer on live national TV in the US when other women cut off their husbands penis.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:22 PM
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Hopefully you learned from this about how women are and how you have to protect yourself when you deal with them. Or avoid them, that this the safest way.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:16 PM
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They don't want us to appear in the light, and keep all their deeds in the dark. Sound like oppression? That's because that's what this is. There should be a new Commandment added to the Bible. Though shalt not covet another mans children. I guess Moses never considered that women would rise up against men in 1600BC.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:10 PM
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From hearing his last words, it sure seems like he felt accused of a horrible sex crime. You can call it harassment all you want but to an honest man, he knows he's being accused of being a beast and that will be on his record forever. In Izzu's own words "They didn't give me a chance to clear my name". As the cause of his suicide.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:59 AM
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Controlling speech shows that feminism is nothing but a power group. I don't know why you identify with a movement that hates half the population...men. Men don't need anything from women. Thanks for your concern.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:24 AM
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Same happened here. Coyote ugly. This is one of the driving forces behind the campus rape crisis, women are waking up next to men and saying...eeek..rape!
/r/MensRights06/08/21 10:35 AM
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What's it like to be stuck in a marriage you can never get out of? Are a lot of men unhappily married in the Philippines?
/r/MensRights06/08/21 10:30 AM
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Yet experts like Judges that work in family court say that 90% of allegations of abuse are manufactured to strip fathers of their children and transfer money from the husband to the wife. And in Scandinavia, this doesn't happen. Watch Divorce Corp, the video. It's eye opening.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 10:26 AM
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When you say moderation you mean they need to be shut down. That's not moderation of your comment is simply, you're wrong, you know it, and you're lying. The rules about evidence and the rules about freedom of speech define a free society. That's not what you want. You want a femocracy with no accountablity. Try to get it, we can't stop you. But your lie doesn't stand up to facts so you want us...moderated. By Mary Koss perhaps? Or is it an appointed administrator of men's rights, a woman, that …
/r/MensRights06/08/21 10:12 AM
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But that picture will be used against him when he's 40 and up for promotion tagging him as a male patriarch.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 10:05 PM
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You seem very non-challant. You're in serious trouble here. You need to get a lawyer yesterday and make her sign receipts for anything you give her. Do you love those kids? That will cost you. Or go to jail.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 10:03 PM
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Men do seem to take more risks. I guess that we'll find out if risk is better for business or not. I think women seem to be behaving just the same as men. I had a male boss and a female boss and neither would take any risks. I think childbirth may keep women from being as employed as men in their middle thirties to mid forties. That will affect promotions. But it is only a minority of men that reach those levels so I bet some hard driving women will figure it out. They already are. I saw recentl…
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:55 PM
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The only question is, turn on the phone camera and hit record or not. It costs nothing. If you're accused, I'd make a bet you would have wished you recorded it. People in criminal justice can read liars, it's part of the job. Feminists will raise a stink. Stick to evidence.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:49 PM
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There are no harmful effects of video taping an honest exchange where everyone knows the conversation is being recorded.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:30 PM
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And then there are the tens of thousands of men on here telling you it happened to them personally. But they are just men. If it were 11 women reporting it you’d say: impeach the governor.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:27 PM
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And off to jail you go Mr. Nice Guy. A bet Cuomo thought they were all innocent hugs. Even 12 year olds know you have to be very careful who you sleep with and document everything.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:25 PM
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If I were recording a woman’s consent the first thing I’d record was me saying, you know your being recorded for consent. If she gives any sign of not being happy to a recorded consent, it’s out the door with her.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:21 PM
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The feminists don’t hide their affiliations. They have their own Supreme Court justices. You are intentionally obfuscating the truth.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:16 PM
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Why will the world always be run by men, nor should it. Women go to college, grad school and professional school in far greater numbers than men. Women will be leaders because women make competent leaders. Not better. Just the same as men.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:09 PM
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Wow, so men offing themselves in large numbers because they miss their children who were ripped away so the mother could profit are blah, blah, blah to you. Another hater of men, right here on an MRA sub. Why am I not surprised it’s Reddit.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 09:06 PM
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Mass hysteria? Not real? Give me a break.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 08:48 PM
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Innocent without tangible evidence is the basis of a civilized society. He’s innocent. There is no evidence and the accusations consists of hugs and kisses. He showed video evidence he hugs and kisses men and women in the same fashion. I believe the evidence. I don’t believe women because they are saintly women. The main accuser, by the way, is loving this. They got some young girl who finds a 63 year old white man creepy, that must have taken a lot of work to find. It’s a set up.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 08:47 PM
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I was black out drunk raped first year of college. That was over 40 years ago. For men, nothing has changed.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 07:19 PM
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Do you feel bad he was raped?
/r/MensRights05/08/21 07:12 PM
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I guess they want us MGTOW guys over here now. Therefore, by the definition of Koss 75% of college rapes are invented and maybe that’s why people believe, truthfully, that about 90% of college rapes are not true cases of rape by the legal definition.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 07:11 PM
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I’m pushing for default 50/50 equal shared parenting. When this becomes the law, and the custom, men will be again able to safely have children. Until then it’s best to avoid marriage and children.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 06:32 PM
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Feminists say it's Men's Right's groups that are the problem. Based on surveys of teenage boys saying their hearing the statistics like only 2% of rape accusations are real. They say they are targeting Men's Right's groups and they don't see the difference between incels, pick up artists, mgtow and men's right's activists. Also, don't forget, mgtow arose from men's right's activists. MGTOWers just don't want to try to negotiate with feminists because it's a no win game. https://www.newsweek.com/…
/r/MensRights03/08/21 09:49 PM
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Just freeze some sperm, people change their minds.
/r/MGTOW201/08/21 09:13 PM
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When the debate get's nasty, just don't respond. This is our space and they are interlopers. I've found that refuting them only leads to them name calling, things like calling us incels. This is a threat of calling us terrorists, they know this. Don't respond to such posts. They should be mentally labelled as "I lose this argument" and leave that headstone in their post for everyone to see they lose. Or downvote them. There is nothing wrong with downvoting abusive posts and calling us names is u…
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 11:58 AM
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Go your own way, learn what you need and what you will get out of life. And if you find someone that wants to share your path, let her. But always maintain your personhood, never give up yourself, your friends, your family or your interests. If she doesn't like it, bail. If she becomes a bitch, leave, if she threatens you, leave. That's the power of MGTOW. It's not necessary to avoid all relationships, it's just necessary to be an independent man who is happy on his own and a relationship improv…
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 11:42 AM
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I have a 70 year old friend who recently found out he's the father of a 17 year old. Same story, she got pregnant and never told him, they had a brief relationship. Now 17 later she falls on hard times and needs public assistance. It's the government that let him know he owes back child support. He's thrilled. He never had other children and is now getting to know his son. He doesn't mind paying 700/month to have a son. He was previously childless. And he's no simp. He's lived with my friend, hi…
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 10:40 AM
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AIDS was pretty serious STD pandemic. And that is uniformly fatal. Eddie Murphy famously joked in his comedy show RAW that the next STD your dick would fly off like a rocket and cruise around the room...maybe that's next.
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 10:33 AM
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I never message woman on dating apps. I make an attractive profile then only message women that "like" me first. Even then only 1/10 message me back. But these generally turn into actual meetings. Women need to see you in that top 20% and you can't predict it. Over 40 women do search and message men. The efficiency is excellent because I don't spend time searching and messaging women. Do I lie a little to make my profile more attractive...YES.
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 10:30 AM
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This is an example of how not to be when you're married. He lost his friends and his life revolves around his wife and kid. And, apparently he can't afford a 400 dollar TV. If you do choose to marry stay going your own way. She was attracted to your independence as that means she can do things like take a month vacation. He's the loser for not having hobbies and activities that don't revolve around his family. If your going your own way, and keep doing that in marriage, wife going away for a mon…
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 10:26 AM
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I believe that MGTOW is a place for men to discuss our issues. And for the last ten years on sites like MGTOW1 and MGTOW.com women were not allowed. I think the time has come that our philosophy is well formed enough that we can handle questions from women. Yes they are all to some extent a product of their environment so are misandrist. But I put up a post yesterday and a feminist poster had to come on and say she totally agrees with me. Our philosophy is something intelligent feminists should …
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 10:20 AM
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If you can prove you put up 125K then you should be able to get that back plus half the difference between what it's worth and what you owe. Time to see an attorney.
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 12:44 AM
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In the US the idea women have is to get a degree so they will have a dual income family. Then children come and that can take decades to finish so women are out of the workplace. Of course some abuse the system and many men allow it. In reality this degree becomes insurance if they end up the 1/2 marriages that ends in divorce. I suppose women in third world countries don't have that ability.
/r/MGTOW231/07/21 12:41 AM
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Then you might lose a contested fight for 50/50 equal shared parenting in family court. That's why I don't recommend having children for most men. I knew what I was doing and did half the child care and still. it cost me bank to keep custody and frankly, a lot more than money. But I did retain custody. IMO, until default 50/50 is the law and custom, like in Scandinavia, it's too dangerous to have children.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 11:52 PM
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Well this biological organism get's the most fun out of helping other similar biological organisms. I bet it's a built in feature. That living things evolve to create groups. So, while I see myself as an atheist mgtower, I recommend doing something good. It's food for the soul, ;}.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 11:02 PM
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When this kind of thing lasts more than 3 months it's time to see a doctor about depression. Suicide is a very real thing and men suffer more than women. Men are good at it. Don't let things go. Medication can help in half the cases. In half the cases exercise helps. You should definitely be exercising. But take my advice and consider seeing a doctor. A psychiatrist is the correct specialty. And yes, I've had serious depression that lasted many years so take it seriously.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:20 PM
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Find a direction. Make something up. I always loved scientific research and music. That's what I do now. I'm retired and my expenses are low. I fund my research and music myself. I'm doing computational biology type research so all I need is a computer and math. Find something you are passionate about and try to make a difference or something. Whatever turns you on. Don't give into nihilism. Men have been set free by feminism, enjoy it.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 09:58 PM
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And men are using pro's. So what? Feminism promised women a life free of husbands. I don't understand why men are now surprised that women don't want husbands. Women are half the working population and the wage gap, which I think is an effort gap, is shrinking. Women go to college in far greater numbers than men. I go on Match.com and over half the women have graduate degrees. Why would they want a husband? Have you heard what feminists say about husbands? Ever been on a date with a divorced wom…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 09:54 PM
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I disagree. I don't think women want to go back to the plantation either. They hated marriage 1.0 and hate marriage 2.0. Yes they marry and want weddings but they don't want a partner. Women are just overbearing and controlling in modern relationships just as they described men as being in the old days. Women love what feminism has brought them, independence. Now it's time for men to get the memo and learn to be independent for themselves. It's a pipe dream that women will miss men. Women love e…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 09:49 PM
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That's very funny. The only statistic I'd like to chase is the rate of custody. The 2013 census says that women receive full physical custody 82-90% of the time. At that rate it makes no sense for US men to consider reproducing.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 09:34 PM
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Feminists always said they supported equal parenting. It's just that they are too busy helping women to have the money or energy to help men. Finishing the work of second wave feminism is the job of the manosphere and MGTOW is part of that. I'm sure from many years on sites like this that many men wish to have children and would if they could be certain to be in their children's lives. In choosing a partner, not only was i careful, I choose someone who agreed to 50/50 if we got divorced before I…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 07:03 PM
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Until 1839 in England a woman couldn't even petition for custody. Child custody in Colonial America When colonial Americans settled in the U.S., they followed English common law that granted the father custody of children following divorce. But with the rise of the Industrial Revolution, more fathers began leaving their farms and villages for work, leaving mothers behind to take care of the kids. This is where the image of fathers as wage earners and mothers as caregivers began to emerge and inf…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 06:50 PM
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I wanted a baby, that's why I have a son. Many men want children. They write about it here.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 05:55 PM
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What does "real" men and women mean? Since no one can define it and there is a range of behaviors that both men and women exhibit, it's a question that can't be accurately answered. The number of sexes in nature is two. The number of genders invented approaches infinity. I dated a transgender man, a woman who felt like a man inside, pre-op. She/He/They seemed truly different from most women. She/He/They didn't want to be treated specially because we had sex. Kinda like a guy.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 05:48 PM
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I agree that this is a modern manifestation of what feminism is telling women they want but clearly from the comments most women commenting agree. Not one woman disagreed. Only one said being a mother was the best thing to happen to her. That's 1/40. I strongly disagree that women are more naturally cafegiver's than men. I have seen no data that shows men are any less good at caring for children. Frankly it's a sexist point of view. I raised my son from age 9 months alone. It was one of the best…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 05:44 PM
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Hint: Follow the money. All of the pics on here of men with nice homes, bikes, cars and hobbies means less money for women. Feminism is a labor union for women. Don't take them seriously, they are just looking out for their members. It's a zero sum game, money in your pocket is less money in some woman's pocket.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 05:23 PM
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Triple wrap it. Start a savings plan. Pay yourself 20% of your take home a month into a savings account for future investment.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 03:13 PM
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It's hard not to think of feminists as enemies when they are always sending incoming bombs our way. Women have succeeded in breaking any barriers to succeeding at work and are creating a hostile environment for men at work where any look or hug can be a fireable offense. Where men cannot have children without fear of them being alienated by from their children by their ex-wives. They are lying to the public and when mgtowers had the balls to call them on it they call us terrorists. Sure, I read …
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 03:11 PM
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I don't know about this one. When my son was 13 I started taking him to video game launch parties at the local GameStop. All those adolescent boys crammed into a mini-mall store stank to high heaven. It was rank in there. Women, they say, are more sensitive in the smell department. I'd cut her some slack on this one.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 02:40 PM
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No, to me it's an manosphere thing. Women have taken advantage of men for so long and did it so hard that saying no is a radical statement. I'm just encouraging men here to take "no" back and use it to embrace equality.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 02:27 PM
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Sorry, they've taken the rainforest: Despite common belief, even the remote reaches of the jungle can get cell service depending on the provider. This allows White and his non-profit to defend the distant reaches of the Amazon. After receiving the phones, each community can maintain their own devices and therefore function autonomously.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 01:01 PM
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As you can see from my post about MGTOW being labelled terrorists that this is how they plan to deal with us. Post stuff on here and have your PayPal turned off and probably have a record that your future employer can search and call you a sexist. To be fired and never to be hired. This will all be done with AI. There will be no people that screen our posts. There will be no discretion. Ask the drivers at Amazon who are being fired by the AI. They can ban hundreds of thousands of people in a sma…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 12:57 PM
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It's worse than that. Women have been taught to resent and at the same time expect help from men. Make a wrong move, look at her the wrong way, and she'll call 911 and have you arrested.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 12:25 PM
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Not stopping doesn't make you a pig. We all can have AAA. I stop if it's an older women or a guy but I am too afraid to stop for a young woman taught to dial 911 for dollars.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 12:24 PM
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Men need to learn from a young age not to simp for women. It is abused by women in later years. Saying no is not rude. The power of mgtow is the power to say NO.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 12:21 PM
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I'm surprised she didn't bang you for not being afraid of her as most guys are of very attractive women. Very attractive women love to be treated normally. That's one of the secrets of why you sometimes see them with regular looking guys. These guys are confident and don't treat them special.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 12:19 PM
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I was married twice. My first wife and I used to go to nudist clubs and she told me she had a lot of adventurous sex before we got married. The wedding night she wore a nightgown similar to what Doris Day would wear in 1950's movies about marriage https://www.pinterest.com/pin/86131411593255239/. Sex was missionary only after that. She changed like a switch went off. The second marriage it was after our son was born. She lost all interest in the relationship. She emotionally checked out. My advi…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 11:17 AM
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Same here, after our son was born she emotionally checked out of the relationship. In her defense, she had pretty bad post partum depression but that wasn't all of it. She changed and blew out all the promises we made to each other at the time of marriage. The main one, she promised 50/50 if we ever split up. Her first move was to kidnap our child.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:59 AM
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The way I see it is it's about emotional attachment. Once a women gives up that attachment there is no going back. They can fake it to get more out of you, as one girlfriend once taught me, but they never come back. How to use this information is to notice when she's lost her emotional attachment. At that point divorce/breakup is inevitable so best not to try to get her to come back. Best to position yourself for the break up so you don't lose money, time, hurt feelings and especially avoid an a…
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:55 AM
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Your poem is an illustration of how feminists feel about MGTOW. I've been doing this many years and don't see the hate you are describing. I think perhaps a small number of men feel this for a while but it is not generally true that men hate women and that folks in the manosphere, trying to improve conditions for both sexes, like on here, hate women at all. I kinda don't like the characterization and fight against such hate when I see it written here, which is rare...like now.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:49 AM
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I have a very similar studio set up. A wife would never have allowed me to spend this kind of money. I intend to sell songs and make money but honestly, without a wife to support, I'm in no rush. I'm taking my time to learn music production techniques. I'm taking lessons from a pretty serious LA producer.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:44 AM
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Now for the next step. Keep records of everything. Make a secret file and put all the man hating propaganda from work in that file. Also, if any women at work give you a hard time, a dirty look, makes a face at you, write it down, date it, sign it and then put it in your secret file. Use this file as the nuclear option should they ever try to metoo you. If someone says you did or said something you will have a record to refer to. Especially the iffy interactions. Don't ever date at work. And do …
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:41 AM
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r/MensRights. r/MensRights a very famous poster, a member of the Honeybadgers and then a mod on r/MensRights, Typhon Blue, floated the question and I agreed. I'd rather it be called r/Egalitarianism than r/MensRights . I too consider myself egalitarian. I just want men included in the discussion. When discussing with "feminists", it's best to label yourself "masculinist", IMO.
/r/MGTOW230/07/21 10:34 AM
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Sorry dude but there were probably red flags you missed. Consider why you were raising a Thai hookers children and didn't know it? The little brain is thinking for the big brain. You're not paying child support, right? You don't owe her money, right? She didn't call the cops, right? Then you're doing good, cut your loses and move on.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 10:52 PM
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This is written by a feminist, right? Men are not addicted to women.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 10:41 PM
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I'm old. When I was raised you learned how to behave by watching your father. Your role model. Of course I know I'm a role model for my son. That means I wouldn't do anything I don't expect him to do. I love children but I can't recommend he has children. And marriage is a very big risk. It's his life. I advise, I don't interfere. I never discussed RP stuff with him until last month, he's in his early 20's. His first LT girlfriend broke up with him to see other people. He's broken hearted and st…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 09:54 PM
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Wikipedia is a feminist org and they say one study showed that men and women nag, repeatedly ask something be done over and over until it's a problem, at the same rate. The feminists at Wikipedia clearly indicate it's not abuse but just a form of communication. In fact, they blame the menz. They say men contribute to nagging by not complying quickly enough with the naggers requests. Interestingly the feminists say that nagging is an alternative to using force. So it is emotional harassment. As y…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 09:31 PM
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Some say NO MA'AM=MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 08:44 PM
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People love dystopia's. Go for it.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 08:33 PM
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I have friends and family. A son. I'm not lonely at all. I can't imagine sharing my life with someone. First of all, I'd have to share my couch...ouch. Then I'd have to hear their opinion. In my own house...lol. Once you go your own way long enough it's hard to imagine going back.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 08:11 PM
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Wasn't "Fountainhead" already written? Or maybe an on the road book like Jack Kerouac? I'd buy it.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 08:08 PM
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And if your broke telling your wife to cut down on spending is financial abuse. Make sense? These type of things are about extreme cases. Cutting off funds to a married person is a kind of abuse if severe, same with nagging. A little reminder is nothing. A constant harangue is emotional abuse in my book. And since it's a female thing many men could benefit from this argument when the abuse allegations start flying in family court. Just like women benefit by calling men who are larger than them s…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 08:05 PM
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Feminists have always known theirs philosophy is a house of cards. The first thing they did was eliminate public places men could meet and compare notes. Let's see how they try to police the entire internet. Maybe they'll go full China on us and any mention of the problems with feminism will mean jail time. One of the reasons MGTOW1 was quarantined, it is said, was because a fellow on that sub was arrested and tried and found guilty of buying illegal drugs online, being a white supremacist, visi…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 07:52 PM
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If you focus on yourself you will improve. One thing you can say about MGTOW is that it's a self centered philosophy. Enjoy it, practice it, and you will be victorious.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 07:44 PM
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I couldn't read past them getting mad that men don't desire "square women". It's true, I never thought of it before, some women are square and they are especially unattractive. See, I'm open minded, I agree with r/FDS
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 06:35 PM
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Are you paying child support to children who hate you? Are you paying alimony to help your ex girlfriend raise her child she had with another guy? Then you should be thinking...what went right.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 05:45 PM
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Sorry to bomb my own thread but here we have The International Centre for Counter Terrorism-The Hague. From a female named Alex DeBranco who is a PhD candidate at Yale. Male Supremacy Terrorism As a Rising Threat https://icct.nl/publication/male-supremacist-terrorism-as-a-rising-threat/ On January 2019, on the day of the Women’s March, Christopher Cleary planned a mass shooting at the rally in Provo, Utah, “killing as many girls as I see.” Cleary, who had a past history of stalking and threateni…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 05:40 PM
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She would personally go and brain wash these boys and now, after ten years of being unopposed in her propaganda, she's freaking out that boys are hearing the other side of the story. And it's telling that she had no data to convince them of her argument that rape is everywhere and that false rape accusations are rare. So a 12 year old boy armed with the facts beats feminist arguments. That's what she is admitting. Feminism is incompatible with free speech. It's a house of cards built on quicksan…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 05:26 PM
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Here it is coming from NewsWeek. Misogyny and 'Manosphere' Spreading To Playgrounds 'and Is a Terror Threat', Author Says https://www.newsweek.com/misogyny-manosphere-spreading-playgrounds-terror-threat-1555462 Perhaps the most chilling aspect of her research, Bates says, was discovering that this online hatred of women was filtering down to children, with boys who have not long entered their teenage years denouncing feminism in school playgrounds across Britain. Before COVID, Bates would visit …
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 04:53 PM
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Generalizations was the first attack on men's speech 22 years ago when I started doing this. The hot site back then was "StandYourGround". It was an MRA site with both men and women participating. The only rule was no generalizations. This severely limited the ability to have a conversation. Ten years later when MGTOW came around men where thrilled to be able to describe that behavior of most women with the term AWALT. Men knew that not all women are anything but it was as effective a strategy a…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 03:53 PM
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You're speaking for yourself. That's cool. Most men here can get women no problem. They choose not to. They go their own way away from societal expectations because the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 03:36 PM
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Who cares?
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 03:29 PM
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Then it's the first. Emotional abuse is punishable by a year in prison. We should make that stick. I won't tolerate even a little nagging. Here they claim nagging is worse on a marriage than cheating. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/is-nagging-worse-for-your\_n\_4326420
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 12:33 PM
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I stopped being stupid and making political statements that hurt me personally about 20 years ago when I got hurt really bad for being outspoken about something political. Take care of yourself first.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 12:09 PM
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I know but I read posts on here talking about getting to be more of what women want. All that get's you is divorce raped. Improve yourself for you not for women.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 12:03 PM
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This should be shown to first graders then repeated every year through senior year of college. The fellow Glenn Sacks marriage reformer used to do private consultations. I used him maybe 15 years ago. He was better than my very expensive attorney. If you guys can find him, use him. He's cheap.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 11:59 AM
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I'm a long time medical scientist. I got vaccinated right away and got my entire family vaccinated. I would like to see all mgtow men vaccinated first to show that we are truly a fact and science based group. From the article reported June 30 in the AP, the data is from the US in May: 1200 infections amongst vaccinated out of 107,000 new cases or 1.1%. So new infections are primarily those unvaccinated. 150 deaths in vaccinated patients out of 18,000 COVID deaths or 0.83% of deaths from COVID am…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 11:00 AM
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MRA's negotiate with women. MGTOWers educate women.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 10:48 AM
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There you have it boys, start working out and get that six figure salary so you can have this! Every single night for the rest of your lives! Picking up six piles vomit for a BJ!!! How romantic.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 10:41 AM
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My argument is that feminists continue to lie and make up studies, create "facts" to bolster discrimination against men in any of the higher paying professions like leader. This constant drip like propaganda can be very effective. Men are already hounded out of leadership positions. By citing these sorts of articles I'm trying to raise consciousness so when men are passed over for leadership positions and people say "Studies show women are better leaders" men can see where this is coming from. A…
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 10:33 AM
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Men can be feminists too, especially at in the Harvard Review. Notice how they add a little statistics but not enough to judge the accuracy of their claims. Science by pop non-peer reviewed article. That's the feminist way.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 10:29 AM
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Why is being married and going your own way mutually inconsistent? If there was a pre-nup and no children involved I'd get married to the right woman. I would not plan for forever and would watch my back. Obviously I've looked into it and pre-nups are much more enforceable than before according to Wikipedia.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 03:23 AM
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It's about self ownership and self direction. Who comes along is up to them.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 03:18 AM
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I like to think the sexes are equal but I have to say, women do appear more emotional.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 02:00 AM
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With something like 60% of women saying they are either very if not somewhat feminists it seems women like the brave new world of feminism. Leave it to them. They are earning their own money and that's for real. Me? I retired at 51.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 01:44 AM
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Maybe not on one chicks word alone but if five chicks from your past all say you did something similar to them then you're going to jail...you've been me too'd.
/r/MGTOW229/07/21 01:36 AM
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I had full custody for the first three years. Then she applied for 50/50 and I didn’t fight her. I never tried to keep him from his mother. Even the first three years 9 months to 3 years, I sent a nanny to have him sleep at her house to bond with her. She wouldn’t even be in my presence until he started having problems in school. Then he lived with me on school nights, her house on weekends. She continued to denegrate me to him saying I bought him too many toys. Since I had gone my own way I had…
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 11:54 PM
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Men’s rights activists said for years that the feminists went to war with men and the men didn’t show up. Most men thought women were kind hearted. Then the MRAs finally showed up on the 1980s and 1990s but were ineffective. The MRAs try to reason with feminists. Feminists are a power group and don’t negotiate with men. Then some MRAs decided the game was hopelessly rigged and opted out. These are the MGTOWers. MGTOW has been around for about 11 years and is wildly successful. That is why MGTOW1…
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 11:05 PM
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I had full custody, my ex visitation. I still had to pay child support. The article I read said she got primary custody because they live in different states.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 08:57 PM
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Arguing about the word “all” is as solipsistic as using the word “all” in an argument. If 900 out of 1000 people act a certain way then it is statistically a trait of that group. All psych snd social science, as biased as it is is based on frequency.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 08:52 PM
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My son used the force of child protective services to move to his moms. I was happy to let him go, but I imagine stabbing me in the back helped his mom, my ex, to accept he switched teams and wanted to move with her. Parental alienation takes a terrible tool on children.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 07:01 PM
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Incels are voluntarily celibate. They are all Vocels. I know this because for 100 dollars they can all have sex. I did some research and went on the top incel sites. Incels want live not sex. That’s why sex workers don’t interest them. They want to be loved. It is possible that the way mgtowers out female nature and evidence that unconditional love is a myth, some men have become distraught because their Disney dream of a loving relationship has been destroyed. Incels say mgtowers are deluding t…
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 06:58 PM
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I have admit, I was one of those Angelino’s in the 1990’s. Women would throw themselves at us. I had a great job and was even in a hard rock band. Used to get tons of attention. It’s hard to believe it’s not still the same. If you can pull off a Chad rocker vibe, the girls show up.
/r/MGTOW228/07/21 06:22 PM
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If popularity is a sign of accuracy, this show was number four on Netfilx. It might have touched a nerve.
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 01:10 AM
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Yes, you are correct. Feminism is a Critical Theory. I am reading a book on Critical Race Theory and the female author starts out by describing how Critical Race Theory is heavily influenced by feminism. I haven't read the entire book yet but they way she describes it, liberals in the late 1970's where frustrated that the Civil Rights gains of the 1960's had seemed to stall. Critical Theorists call it incrementalism and is typical of liberalism. Progressivism is not liberalism although a lot of …
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 01:08 AM
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I don't know about that. A good friend of mine just got a job making 100K and she's a sales person. Another female friend is 66, works in a facilities job in a hospital and rents a room in a house. Neither of them desire to meet a man to take care of them. Both are old but there are old guys that support women. There are still a lot of simps in their 60's. I put a Match profile up for the one working in the hospital and she's getting at least 3-4 guys messaging her a day. But they are not intere…
/r/MGTOW222/07/21 12:55 AM
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But leaving marriage back then was very hard to do. There was significant stigma attached and there were few single guys.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 03:40 PM
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Well, what I got out of this data is that marriage provides a small benefit to emotional health, probably. But the second study I linked showed that objectively, there was no significant health benefit from marriage. However, in half the marriages, divorce occurs. Now this causes a large 9 fold increase in suicides. So, while getting married might provide some benefits to mental and physical health, subsequent divorce more than eliminates these benefits. So, getting married is a crap shoot. If y…
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 03:38 PM
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Hear it from the horse's mouth yourself. She will likely die alone as all of us die alone. Feminists lack of relationships is mirrored in men's lack of relationships. We either embrace both or marry and get divorce raped. I'm sad for Emma Watson as she seems upset that she wasted her 20's following the feminist paradigm. I hope we don't end up with men wishing mgtow had never said that marriage and relationships are a bad idea.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 01:34 PM
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Men and women are both people and can be victims. It's difficult to help male's who are victimized because, you're right, male victims are ostracized. This makes helping them on a public forum difficult to manage. I try to point out how good men have it today even with feminism, and, even though women feel victimized many things a men do, todays world can be a fine place once men leave the illusion of romantic love behind. Valuing relationships and sex over everything else is a bad idea in a soc…
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 12:31 PM
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I see this thread got posted on MGTOWban. I guess the idea that men have any self esteem is against the basic rules of feminism. Hurt all men, all the time. Negging women is something men do now too. It's your fault you have small breasts, get an augmentation, big nose, get a rhinoplasty, big ass, get liposuction. See, that doesn't work does it. People are not at fault for their DNA. Being overweight is common now. 36.5% of Americans are obese. Men are not allowed any pity under female rule. It'…
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 11:17 AM
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Stop smoking pot. It's not for everyone. It will sap your will. Also work out. This will increase your self esteem and make you feel more energetic all day.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 11:03 AM
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"Woman" is the term for the more hypergamous of our species. All women are hypergamous. All women strive to find better mates unless legally restricted like before 1970.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 10:48 AM
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Welcome, I'm in my 60's as well. My son, 24, roles his eyes at my choices but I don't tell him who to date and he doesn't tell me. We are going to tell you you're not allowed to choose either. If the choice is re-marriage. Three times is not the charm, it's for turkeys. Like others said, I travel to meet women. I'm planning a trip as soon as SE Asia opens up. I'm going for a month. Otherwise, I find dating sites are particularly bad at our age. You're too old for some dating sites. I frequently …
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 10:46 AM
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Be careful. My brother ex-wife, who almost stole my brothers house he owned before they got married moved to Florida and was the nurse to an elderly man. I found out she weaseled her way into having the man sign over his house to her. Luckily, when he passed, his children got involved and she was made to give the house back and fired by her agency.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 10:41 AM
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The problem is there is no such thing as romantic love and romantic love is what you're looking for. No woman from anywhere will love you unconditionally. Unconditional love, IMO, is the biggest cause of men coming to MGTOW. When men finally learn the TV and their family are lying, it's devastating, and they come here.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 10:37 AM
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I couldn't find the US but I found Korea and there is a decline in suicide risk as income and socio-economic status increases. The difference is 5 times larger in men than women.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 10:19 AM
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In what way are they fooling us?
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 10:08 AM
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But MGTOW and entire idea of Men's Right's is available to Gen Z and later generations. Idea's come through the phone or the internet. They're hard to stop. Just the idea that marriage is optional for men will spread. That's how culture, idea's, spread.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 12:49 AM
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The libtards are losing power to the Progressives. These love the tactics of second wave power politics. The Progressives like protests instead of politics. Gen Z'ers are frequently Progressives. Progressives think libtards are weak. Libtards believe in peaceful political processes.
/r/MGTOW221/07/21 12:46 AM
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True, people don't know the other person as well as they do once their are married for a time but things frequently go wrong in a marriage. Marriages can be forever so, of course, bad times come and go. But you never know the bad time that can be the last time in Marriage 2.0. That's why Marriage 1.0 worked. 74% of people in 1962 were married. Today half of people divorce. There is no stigma and a lot to gain in divorce, for women. The main two are the two most important things a family has, the…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 10:59 PM
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When I was 23 I had to stand up to my domineering mother. She is a tough as nails business women who owned and solo ran 3 large trailer parks with over 50 units each. Even before feminism you didn't disagree with her or else. I moved out at 18 but moved back in for a year at 23 to save money for professional school. I couldn't take it. I had a separate apartement but she insisted I keep the connecting door open. I finally confronted her but had packed and put my stuff in the car first. I'm not s…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 10:48 PM
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I had a friend who was happily married, they were both very nice and well respected. Their son died of bacterial meningitis. They were divorced within 6 months. You never know when this soft "love" that most in the US were socialized to think of as marriage will end. A car accident? An illness? A big bill? My ex paid the bills twice because she had post-partum depression. Being the typical simp, happy wife, happy life, she was in charge of the finances. When she paid the bills twice we went nega…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 10:37 PM
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In other studies I looked at all seemed to indicate that suicide reduction is only for men. And the suicide increase on divorce is only seen in men. This is from an older study looking at 1979-1989. Among women, however, there were no statistically significant differentials in the risk of suicide by marital status categories. https://jech.bmj.com/content/54/4/254 For every female suicide after divorce there are 9 male suicides. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1732362/pdf/v057p00993.…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 09:34 PM
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No.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 09:13 PM
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Some primitive cultures kill the elderly. American Indian tribes are well known to have practiced this with elderly that could not keep up with the moving nomadic tribe. In the book Sapiens, it is described that a tribesman from Central America used to bop old ladies over the had and kill them. When civilization arrived this one fellow was still around to be interviewed. He said it was just something you did and no one complained or got upset. At least in US culture lip service is played to the …
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 09:13 PM
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It's easier without a husband too, if women who post on social media are any indication. I think dealing with another adult is very difficult. My son and I never fought and life was smooth. My mom thinks things would not have been so easy if I had stayed married and had someone attacking me every day for her amusement.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 08:30 PM
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The long term future isn't clear. Maybe Jeff Bezos will have us all on the moon in his fancy new rockets. I think the challenges men face today are enough to consider. Living as a man on your own takes a lot of preparation and diligence.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 06:51 PM
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I thought you had a child through surrogacy?
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 06:49 PM
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My 90 year old mother said of the long term marriages during Marriage 1.0, about a quarter were happy. The remaining three quarters were very unhappy but divorce was just not done back then. We complain about divorce here a lot but it's a god send to a bad marriage. Marriage 2.0, no fault, easy divorce was the best thing to happen to men. It also burst men's blue pill bubble to what women act like when they're done with you. That contributed greatly to the rise of mgtow, iMO.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 06:47 PM
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They only invented this matriarchy with the advent of second wave feminism in 1970. It's only 50 years and women are loving it. They get to work and make their own money. Women consistently say how they hated Marriage 1.0, marrying the patriarchy. Their main complaint was having to discuss spending with their husbands, they hate the idea of a partnership. What makes you think women will come back to men? I don't think they will. You're better off improving your life, like adopting going your own…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 05:53 PM
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MGTOW is truly the good life. I don't understand why so many guys on this sub complain so much. I guess they've never been neck deep in a shitty relationship and had that feeling that you never want to go back. For these men, they have to learn the hard way.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 05:45 PM
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I have enough money saved to hire full time live in help when I get really old or sick. It was part of retirement plan. My mom is 90 and my father passed years ago. My sister and I have lives. I take care of my mom two days a week. But she can't walk hardly at all. So she needs full time 24/7 care. That's costing her about 5600/month. I have that much extra in my retirement so I could afford this degree of expense. I will not be relying on my son. It's a big imposition to make a young person tak…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 04:42 PM
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Now your one year old daughter will learn that daddy was a controlling asshole and that is the reason he was kicked out and her mother and her moved away, with, a restraining order. For my son it was homework. My son's mom never ever did homework with him, so he lived with me during the school days. When she wanted to move him without my permission she didn't have to work hard to convince him to move with her. After all, he wouldn't have to do homework. And he didn't. He barely graduated high sc…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 04:35 PM
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A lot of people don't know biology. I had a 53 year old woman message me on Match who checked the box, Still Wants to Have Children. My female friends said run...I was already gone.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 03:07 PM
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I agree, it's not being truly loved that is the hardest part. I don't think I've really fully internalized this concept. Relationships are, unfortunately totally transactional so if you don't have anything of value to the other person you are not just loved because your you. It's what you bring to the table. My final thought on this is that I'll have to always have money for a nurse when I get very old or very sick. No one will come take care of me for free. Definitely not my son. My mom is 90 a…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 03:02 PM
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Think of this as the honeymoon phase entering the real phase. If she shit talks you when she doesn't get what she wants it will get worse. Draw a line in the sand now, and if she continues and crosses the line, remember, this is emotional abuse meant to upset you, so, she will escalate, then you leave. Leaving is the super power of mgtow. The ability to leave and know you'll be OK.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 02:50 PM
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Ordering in costs me 200/week, house cleaner 100/week. So you're taking her shit for 300/week.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 02:47 PM
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Well about 40% of men who marry choose very badly. Those that choose the 80% of women who leave 50% of marriages. If choosing is like choosing for Marriage 1.0, these men would be very large failures. Given the odds being so bad in terms of likelihood of success, I'd never bet is I knew I'd only have a 60% chance of winning when the stakes are so high, alimony, child support, children. And that's why I don't recommend young men marry. It very much depends on the women at first. But once dissolut…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 02:41 PM
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You should focus on the last part of your post. Honestly in the end I realized I will never meet her expectations, nobody ever will, because her expectations are and always will be impossible to meet. She's not a unicorn. She's typical of the entire feminized female species these days. They have been taught to want it all. That means they are not capable of being satisfied. You'll never make a woman happy. Happiness comes from inside and we are all lucky if we have more good than bad days. The e…
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 01:32 PM
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Women don't need babies and mgtow will never change women. Maybe it will change some men. Men certainly don't need babies to be happy.
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 01:20 PM
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I'm in my sixties and I was ten in 1970. I remember it well. Hardly any women worked. And all women supported the feminists. They then sent their daughters to college. When I started professional school, equally suited. to men. and women, there was only about 20 women and 130 men. Now it's 50/50. So that one. example proves you are not correct. In my profession, you would think there would be equal men and women. Feminism was the engine that took women from being housewives to being co-earners. …
/r/MGTOW220/07/21 01:47 AM
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It seems like you're trying to avoid many things. Try to find a direction and go there actively. Say, do better at work. Then make a plan. At this point you need to find ways that make you happy without women so avoid them for now.
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 10:03 AM
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I'm just repeating the feminist mantra of the last 50 years. The thing at least 60% of the women are thinking. They want to have it all. They want a house a husband...and now days an ex-husband and a new lover. They've been telling. themselves it's payback. So don't be surprised if they act that way.
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 12:44 AM
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Or they were raised to want to have it all. And if men cheat why can't she...payback.
/r/MGTOW218/07/21 12:36 AM
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This is the real reason feminists hate MGTOW. The youth is listening.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 06:55 PM
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The guy who wrote the Forbes article got in trouble for being fair in his reporting, not me too'd. And the conclusion is that this case will be hard to win. Better to not poke girls at work. You're asking to be me too'd.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 06:31 PM
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I found an article in which the ACLU is fighting to get a lesbian couple situated with custody. They are attempting to extend the law to involve those not married but who co-parent. I'm sure other women will follow trying to extend the law to non-married partners. But it doesn't look like it's happening right now.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 06:11 PM
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Here is a reference and it doesn't say anything about being married. All you have to be is an adult who the mom and child say acted like a "father". I guess that means controlling in like, wanting the child to have some control at all. https://definitions.uslegal.com/e/equitable-parent/ Equitable parent refers to a spouse who is not the biological father or mother of a child born or conceived during the marriage is treated by the court as the father or mother in an action for custody or visitati…
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 05:31 PM
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This is nothing new, 27 years ago when I was dating my second wife in LA I went to a dinner party where one of the writers, a woman, for Xena the Warrior Princess was there. Even then I saw the feminist writing on the wall. I discussed with her how Hercules was a favorite of mine as a child. That, as a boy, Hercules was a great role model. He fought the bad guys and helped the poor and weak. Single mothers oftentimes. She just smiled. She said that that's exactly why they are destroying the Herc…
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 05:25 PM
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I read some references. This is a codification of the legal practice of imputing parenthood to men not the biological fathers but who raise the children of single mothers. They dress it up as, well you get visitation, like most men who are kicked out by single mothers dream of visiting the children that probably hated him for sleeping with their moms and now for sure will be taught to hate them as the mother finds another simp. Be very careful dating single mothers. The last women I dated seriou…
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 05:02 PM
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I don't know how to help you but I have a good story. I once dated a dom from one of the big dungeons in LA. She told me that most of her customers were lawyers...all I could hope for that they were divorce attorneys. Perhaps her and her friends could help you. You're better off paying for it than expecting to get a fair divorce deal out of women takes a whip to men because they enjoy it.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 04:04 PM
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Then think of your increased productivity at work. With no one to bother you about spending too much time at work, you could increase your productivity greatly. Without the years of emotional heartache that comes with every relationship, and, the inevitable breakup, that's even more emotional waste that you're saving. Don't even talk about children...and custody...it's a nightmare. So you're saving way more than money, you're saving peace of mind.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 03:26 PM
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I stopped drinking a few years ago. I stopped coffee a few months ago. I agree, it's great. No more ups/downs and sleeping is great.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 10:20 AM
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If you get the feeling there's a toll between her legs it's because there is. Pay or walk away. The price is a salad and some water...lol. Not in my experience, but according to the article.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 01:16 AM
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Men need to adjust. If it costs 100 a dinner and you have three dinners before sex, you've invested 300 and the return is sex cheaper than if you pay for it. That's a return on investment. When I date, I think of it as a venture that has serious risk. And I'm not mad if there is not chemistry. I don't blame women for expecting guys to pay. You pay one way or another.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 01:11 AM
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I had a girlfriend who was seven years older than me. She was just like the rest. It failed because she was selfish. She later married and it didn't go well, for the reason's I suspected. I would have a relationship with the right older woman and I'm old.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 12:36 AM
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Because it's such a big deal to buy a woman a few meals first. A little generosity goes a long way.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 12:21 AM
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When feminists say men should suffer because. women suffered for generations, it is wrong. It is also wrong to think we men have been the victims of a desire for equality. Men just need to adjust. Women wanted equality, worked hard for it, and are independent of men in greater numbers than ever. This gives men a chance to grow as people.
/r/MGTOW217/07/21 12:18 AM
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The most expensive ones want you to marry them.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:02 PM
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Oh, I just noticed the short guy is on the list because he makes 3 times what the poorest guy on this list makes. About 60K dollars a year I figure. And in terms of her priorities, it's clear, age, employer and salary. Those are the top three.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 08:29 PM
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I think it's the culture. Until people accept men and women raising their children together, co-parenting, is the best way, men have to wrestle with women that want sole custody. It's getting better. Equal shared parenting went from 7% to 42% from 1990 to 2008 in a Minnesota study.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 08:22 PM
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I tried the "if we get divorced, we'll do 50/50" type marriage and it doesn't work. As soon as they're emotionally out of the relationship, women just want for themselves, hurting you is an added bonus. Until 50/50 is rebuttably (in extreme cases, with evidencel... default), it's best to hire a surrogate. There are many egg donors, mainly for infertile women, and woman who will carry your child to term for a fee, a surrogate. Some go overseas for surrogates. I was in a bar with two girls from Ut…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 08:16 PM
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It's not the expense. The whole thing is gut wrenching and bad for the kid.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 08:11 PM
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I suppose most of us here have been where you are. Your in a much better place than me at your age. I was first married at 23. I ended up tied to a mentally ill woman for six years and was only released when she kicked me out. Your instincts are good. Improve yourself. No one cares about you but you. Make yourself so happy with yourself that women can't make you feel bad by toying with your emotions as they like to do in relationships. Only then, seek out relationships on your terms. Always have…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 06:26 PM
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https://thegreatestbooks.org/lists/153 I hadn't thought of it, now that I looked I'd have to say all of the first 20. I stopped counting after that.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 04:55 PM
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Feminism is the modern religion of the masses. They've been selling to women to avoid relationships with men and get their own career for over 50 years. The mating game is old, hundreds of thousands of years old. Men will be simps for women until they are burned, that won't change. Perhaps they won't be such big simps now that the word is out on sites like this. My niece is getting married, 35, in a few months. Her boyfriend bought a house for them and wouldn't put her name on it. The word is ou…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 03:36 PM
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Try Eaton Press's 100 greatest books ever written. https://thegreatestbooks.org/lists/153 93 are written by men and 7 by women. As the feminists say, the history books are written by white men. These are not history books, these are classics of literature and philosophy. But with women now encouraged to go to college and attending in large numbers, the list hopefully will include more women in the future.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 03:01 PM
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They're playing the odds. Every one knows the divorce rate. Young people think it can't happen to them. Still, the marriage rate is the lowest since the biggest economic collapse of the last century, the Great Depression. It was 6/100K in the 1930's and and it's 6/100K now and declining.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 02:51 PM
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My 90 year old mother threatens to stab me every time I disagree with her. Sometimes she even pokes me with a fork. Does that count?
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 02:08 PM
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These woman are mid to late baby boomers. They were raised in Marriage 1.0 and divorced when the feminists started their hate campaign against men. These women have been screwed by feminism just as badly if not worse than men. She's working as a janitor so she has the kind of keep things going job men frequently have. If women all disappeared men would be just as happy or unhappy as they are now. And, of course, there would be no more new men. This sort of nihilism is not helping men go their ow…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 02:06 PM
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Woman can't invalidate logic. Logic is an epistemological method. The truth is that marriage is a very dangerous institution for the uninitiated. Feelings cant't be invalidated because they are personal and unique to the individual. The truth is irrelevant. Only the gain and the loss of money, status, children, etc is important in male/female relationships. The truth becomes what you can prove in court. When you make a war of the sexes, as feminists did 50 years ago, then men and women become en…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 01:38 PM
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Do you mean tantric sex where you channel your chi energy through the chakras during sex? I do that all the time. I learned it thirty years ago. It's great.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 12:38 PM
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It was out of my life ten years ago. It started when my son was 9 months old, she left and I filed for custody the next day. It ended when he was 14 and voluntarily decided to join his mother who had moved. I didn't fight that as at 14 he has the right to make his own choice of where he lived. He missed his mother, I couldn't blame him for that. I always encouraged a good relationship with his mom.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 11:33 AM
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Not really. I had a very good lawyer. I just followed the law. The feminist custody evaluator told my ex she wanted to give her full custody but, based on my case, she couldn't do it, the judge would reject it. Know the law before you do anything. And pay for a good attorney. And it wasn't luck. The case spanned 14 years. And it wasn't because I had a better attorney, she remarried a multimillionaire who funded her fight against me.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:48 AM
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I read a very long article on this subject the other day in the woke magazine Medium. It sounded just like a reverse of what the guys on this sub say. It made me laugh. It said men are inherently selfish...the exact thing they guys here say. I think everyone will do whats best for themselves in the end.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:46 AM
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I was to court 4 times over my divorce and custody of my son. I won every time. The law should be blind to the sex of the complainant. They cant't legally discriminate in the US.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:37 AM
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If he's lying to protect his mom then be careful. He's already taken sides. Don't shit talk her or he'll fear you as well. Document everything, record what he tells you in private. But in the end you're going to have a hard time not letting him see his mother. Unless you can prove she's giving him drugs then you have no choice but to make the best of your situation. Keep him away from her as much as you can and try to de-escalate things with your son's mom so you can have some leverage over ther…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:36 AM
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It sounds like it might be depression. Feeling everything is shit and there is not point in living is typical of depression. Go see a doctor. There is medication that can help about half the time. Work out, that helps just as well.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:26 AM
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I've read people asking what mgtow guys want politically. Legalizing prostitution would be at the top of my list. I'm glad to see progress is being made.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:24 AM
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There is love, the butterfly's you feel at first. And then there is commitment. The thing that keeps you together three years down the line when you have a serious problem. Since women file 80% of divorces filings, I'd say men should learn to temper the urge to stay, the commitment because women have been trained for about 50 years, after second wave feminism, to leave a marriage when the man shows he's one of them...an abuser, jealous, sick...they just leave.
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:18 AM
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Modern women all seem to like to remind each other not to fall too deeply in love. Reading that consistently makes me think that it is no coincidence that it is women who leave marriages at rate of doing 80% of the filings. Modern relationships shouldn't depend on love. I don't agree with the definitions I'm reading here of love. Love to me is the butterflies. Commitment is when you stay together after the shit hits the fan. Commitment is out when relationship advise these days consists of "it's…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:15 AM
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Men drive on roads, men use electricity from wires, men use heat that comes from power plants, men send their children to community schools. Men are very much a part of society. It is only the extreme mgtow monks that pretend they don't need society. We see their homes from their iPhone shots, iPhones made in China. Society has been gynocentric since 1970, so about 51 years. Second wave feminism is a relatively new concept. Before that things were relatively equal, IMO. Under Marriage 1.0 everyo…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:02 AM
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I have a female friend that was divorced decades ago under Marriage 1.0. I put a Match.com profile up for her and she's getting steady responses. She's very overweight and 66, she works sweeping floors in a hospital. She has no savings and no retirement. She can't live on the 1000 dollars a month social security pays. Do you think she's looking for a wallet to marry...no. She just doesn't care. She has her room in a house she rents and all she cares about are her friends, two females and me. Wom…
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 10:00 AM
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No, what is that?
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 09:54 AM
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I'm responding to the post where he says why to they compare us to the Taliban. An article recently, 2020, was titled MGTOW The new Taliban. So, it's relevant
/r/MGTOW216/07/21 01:24 AM
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Are you a lawyer? He's not owed sex in a marriage, but there is no fault divorce so he could just...leave. If he cheats, while it should not count. against you, it would justify her. anger. Or try for another year, therapy, an OB-GYN, but have a time limit and prepare, then leave.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:46 PM
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It's possible. Also she may be peri-menapausal. It's worth a trip to the doctor.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:39 PM
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To the OP: Don't act controlling or suspicious. She'll probably claim abuse when you finally leave.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:37 PM
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Most therapists will tell him she doesn't want sex and he should be patient until she changes her mind. Perhaps they'll give him a list she made up of things he could change and then, perhaps, she'll begin to desire him again. That will take 8 sessions a 100/session or another 800 dollars he's out. The will delay him leaving by months. He should see a lawyer tomorrow and file a week later. I recommend always being prepared to leave in a long term relationship. What if I need to leave? What if sh…
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:33 PM
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I"m so smart, I did it twice! The second time was to position me to get 50/50 should she inevitably leave.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:28 PM
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Maybe those are the nihilist mgtower's. The ones who hate everything and want society to come crashing down. They are boycotting society not so much going their own way in society.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 07:24 PM
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That's theoretical. Why can't men have a stake in society if they go their own way? I try to do good with my time as well as improve myself. I care about the country and would defend it if there was a war. I still do research, my area is cancer, and that is my way of contributing to society. Many men that mgtower's admire were not ladies men. Bertram Russel, on the other hand has a colorful history with women. Feminists hate him.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 07:21 PM
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I agree, you are correct, that is what they want. If they're older, they've been told for so long they can be happy without a man, they don't seem to care if they're single. Another myth we were raised on, a woman needs a man to be happy. Men don't need women and women don't need men to be happy. Time to learn a hobby and take a trip to somewhere male friendly.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 07:00 PM
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Interesting comments. They seem to favor fathers being able to avoid child support in these situations. The law is discussed, those that favor the non-bio-dad having to pay child support are down voted and those suggesting he should be able to sue her are upvoted. The consensus seems to be that the laws regarding custody and pregnancy fraud should be re-done. They seem to have come over here and believe our opinion, that pregnancy fraud is fraud, and that is a good sign.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 06:39 PM
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I can't get into the whole "you should be the leader and head of your household" that comes with many Tradcon's. I would like a partnership, I suppose because my parents were partners. If you approach relationships as a Tradcon, you get screwed double as women know how to rope those guys the most easily.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 05:00 PM
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I was born Catholic and consider myself more of a Taoist. The MGTOW philosophy is very similar to Taoism in that it favors Stoicism and less consumption. Taoism also favors semen retention which some guys here seem to be interested in. Unlike the Taoists, who believe that gaining Yin energy during sex is healthy for males, mgtow guys talk about never having sex. To me this is unnatural and not necessary.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 04:57 PM
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The most common reason that 80% of divorces are filed is BOREDOM. If you want to sign up for making a depressed woman happy for the rest of her life, then feel free to get married.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 04:04 PM
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Well, you could imagine that FDS is about women gaming the system to try to beat it. Have all her fun then land a rich guy. MGTOW is about men learning and gaming the system to have better outcomes from relationships with women in particular and in life in general. Having a fun relationship without having to have your guts ripped out through your asshole, in MGTOW terms. Like the Tallban we are men and advocate for men, unlike them, we see women as being equal and that they should and do have al…
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 03:33 PM
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There are so many "facts" he quotes are incorrect. But the jist is right on. He decries divorce as being unfair to men. He's right. He says that Marriage 2.0, no fault divorce should be a good and fair thing. He's right there too. It's not fair because women are still receiving alimony when they are the main earners, the breadwinners in about 41% of marriages and earn at least in the same ballpark as men in another 24% of marriages. So about 65-85% of women earn enough that alimony should not be…
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 02:29 PM
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Marital rape is considered abuse according to the article: To settle the debate, Dar al-Ifta, the Egyptian Islamic advisory body which issues religious edicts, has said: "If the husband uses violence to force his wife to sleep with him, he is legally a sinner and the wife has the right to go to court and file a complaint against him to get punished." Is withholding affection a thing there? I hope not. You can't force a person, man or women to have sex. That's rape. My first wife didn't sleep wit…
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 01:34 PM
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I'm sure the guys your age are partying too. You can party and have fun with girls just invest in yourself at this point. If you start in your twenties and save, you can own your own home in no time. Then the girl trouble will really start...lol. Seriously, you've learned about the crazy's and there are many flavors of crazy out there, women have their own agenda as they are just people. They've been sold that marriage and a man will solve their problems once they decided to settle down. You don…
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 11:47 AM
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That AWALT is a slogan and makes mgtower's look silly. The traits you describe are very complex and social. Many young women I meet today have very little of what we used to call maternal instinct. They all want to work and not stay home with their small children. 60 yeas ago we thought women loved staying home with babies. We were wrong and feminists were right, women like to work and like the money even more. Not AWALT and we should put that expression to bed, forever.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:27 AM
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Trades are a great way to make more money. Finishing school is a better way to make more money if you don't go into too much debt. Consider community College/State Universities. Invest in yourself now when you can pull all nighters. Work hard and have a definite savings plan. Then stick to it.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:24 AM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/203183/percentage-distribution-of-household-income-in-the-us/ That's all households. He's single firstly and he's only 25, just starting out.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:22 AM
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I have my mom to thank as well. She's a hard nosed business women who taught me to not be taken advantage of. I have a spine.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:19 AM
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But don't judge relationships based on this sub. Here we talk about the worst things women do to prepare younger men but these are not a fair example of relationships. These are where the relationship is so bad you never want to do that again.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:18 AM
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Brazil, Ukraine, Mexico, Thailand, and the Philippines, all are great places for single men to travel to solo, I can attest.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:12 AM
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"My wife doesn't understand that I don't just want to cum!! I want to be wanted and desired by my own fucking wife!!" Yes, that is too much to ask for. Your asking her to desire you when she doesn't. You can't force or buy love. Some here say she never desired you or loved you like you loved her, but what's the point? It's over. Your marriage is dead. Put a fork in it and leave. Man up and leave.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 10:05 AM
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If he starts now, he'll be done by his early 40's. If he waits he'll lose more and be unhappily married for another ten years. But he will get divorced eventually.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 09:52 AM
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40% or 50% of assets are still better than a life he hates. He should take the money and exit the marriage. He's being played and he knows it. He should grow a spine. He's not even 40, he can make more money and save it as she won't be spending it.
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 09:51 AM
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I bought a house at the top of the market in 1989. It was the least expensive house in LA at the time. It costed 225K. In a year it dropped to 180K and stayed there for about 4 years. Today it's worth 900K. If you own real estate for over ten years you will earn a profit. Most can't shop for years before they find something. I knew what I was doing and bought in a neighborhood ripe for gentrification. Read estate is a long term investment. I agree 100%, rent it out, don't sell it. I now live in …
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 09:45 AM
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I've been mgtow for a while and I think what you describe is the extreme form of mgtow. Not the majority. I agree with the above poster. I've had my fair share of problems, had the cops called a couple of times, but times are changing and so are custody outcomes, my issue. And there are no stages of mgtow. Just a bunch of different paths. The levels of mgtow is something guys made up in 2012. When reporters investigated the most common status of mgtows was "still dating", "Monks", or I think the…
/r/MGTOW215/07/21 12:01 AM
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I'm with you brother. I'm trying to go into music composition/production. I retired, this is a second love. I'm also in the in need to write more songs phase.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 11:29 PM
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The things you say have been said a million times. You're right, the mgtow bible. The laws are screwed in certain ways, you have to be careful out there. But, I get the feeling from watching your video that you're not happy with the way things are now and men have the tools to go their own way if they would like to. It's actually pretty cool in practice. No avoiding females and life is pretty fair. I'm an old white dude and, while I don't believe I'm an oppressor, I'm certainly not a victim. Is …
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 11:14 PM
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I think women may hate nice guys more than mgtow guys. They say nice guys are the worst. They have expectations, think they deserve sex because they're nice.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 11:03 PM
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I like the touch of real skin too much. Women are soft to the touch. From an article from 2020 about a sex doll brothel in Las Vegas. Here the sex worker lets on that at least she thinks it's competition...lol. https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/sex-dolls-experience-raises-eyebrows-in-las-vegas-neighborhood-1950537/ A licensed sex worker living in Las Vegas recently spoke out against the Sex Dolls Experience. Roxanne Price is concerned that sex dolls could prove to be stiff comp…
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 10:01 PM
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You can just call it being smart.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:54 PM
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happiness and satisfaction. Here, mgtow is discussed focusing on how it can (and has) It's like a reverse Apex Fallacy, we should call it the Nader Fallacy. Looking at the worst case scenario is just as misleading as looking at only the worst case scenario. the truth is in the middle.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:53 PM
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Well there are reasons not to advertise. MGTOW got a bad name over the last ten years for proselytizing to young men. People are accusing us of lying to young men to stop them from seeking out relationships to create a false circumstance to hurt all women and make marriage untenable. We have not, we just are telling the red pilled truth about our bad divorces and custody problems. But some do exaggerate and there is an echo chamber effect where we all just agree on a thread, in good brotherhood,…
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:50 PM
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I think he means invisible. If you don't chase women, they are not going to chase you, they'll think you're gay for about a minute then forget you exist. That's why they hate mgtow, we're a group based on not needing women.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:39 PM
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AWALT is a marketing tool. Are we marketing a movement? Or are we trying to help young men with facts. Most women are as they say here but the only thing all women have is two X chromosomes.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:31 PM
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You're correct, a priest is mgtow toward god. Doing good for others is food for the soul.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:29 PM
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I did a calculation and posted it here. The average women would earn about 500 dollars a month from the average American man, income 38,461 dollars a year. Diapers are 100/month and formula 100/month. So 300 per month for extra rent, child care so she can work, with an extra few hundred from child support she has to work. That is not very much. https://www.google.com/search?q=average+income+american+man&oq=average+income+american+man&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30j0i390l2.6057j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie…
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:20 PM
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When women have sex there is a common problem that men never face, pregnancy. This is the main difference between men and women. It is a huge problem for women. You can stay or leave if you girlfriend becomes pregnant. No one will judge you, they might try, but ultimately it's your decision. Women can kill the baby or keep the baby. Either decision sucks. I don't believe most women care nothing about abortion. It's always a hard decision. Think about every time you have sex it might mean you get…
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 04:23 PM
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When there was no-fault, people made up allegations all the time. If she cuts you off, in todays, "she doesn't owe you sex" environment I would prefer no-fault and always have an exit strategy. That's what women are doing. That's how the current marriage game is played.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 10:03 AM
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Only 50% of men ever reproduce. So procreation can only be the purpose of some men. The others, now the majority with falling birthrates and marriages, have to find a higher purpose.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 10:00 AM
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Taking my mom, 90, and her friends to Atlantic City. She loves gambling and is not getting any younger. She hasn't been anywhere in a year and a half. I'm going to SE Asia this fall if it opens up.
/r/MGTOW214/07/21 09:59 AM
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But I wonder, if there were default 50/50 that was not just the law but common practice, could it be safe, with an iron clad pre-nup to get married and have children. I'm saying if she would not and could not rip the children away from you, hypothetically?
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 11:32 PM
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I think the brand of mgtow that yearns for anarchy is part of what spurred the nihilism that incels exhibit. Check my post history, I was discussing this with a Chinese guy on here in relationship to the lying down movement in China. We agreed the problems with sexes we have in the West does not spur societal collapse. It's just an adjustment. There are ways to carry on, like default 50/50 and a prenup to make divorce fair. There is always risk.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 11:18 PM
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Sounds like every article written by every feminist for the last at least 50 years, if not 70 years. So men occasionally, on sites that are being heavily censored, say the same thing back. Get used to it, we're not going anywhere.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:51 PM
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Given the degree of bias, where over half the active members don't participate, and those who do may not be representative, not much can be learned from this polling. It would be dangerous to make any generalizations and so is worse than useless. It may be very wrong.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 09:01 PM
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Looks like a normal distribution so far...it's probably about correct, most are average. It doesn't have my category: Too old to care. Edit: It was looking like a normal distribution...lol.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 08:57 PM
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Biased in many different ways. Primarily reporting bias. How many responded versus how many members on per day? Did you capture the fact that the older men are here mainly to answer posts of the 18-29 year olds? So you don't need many older guys. They are the ones with the experience to contradict misleading media miss-information.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 06:38 PM
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Well, I'm not going to be phallo-centric. Taking one or the the side is not conducive to learning the truth. Armed with the truth, a man can reasonably navigate our gynecocentric world. If lied to by both the feminists and his brothers, a guy is likely to become hopeless and potentially suicidal. It's not all bad and not all good. It's in the middle, something that being phallo-centric won't show you.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 03:53 PM
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He killed himself over debt it says. That's sad. In California, when I looked at the time of my first divorce, the law is that anything you contribute to the education of a spouse is reimbursable. He should have sued her and let her Canadian education pay for it. Don't get mad, get even $$$.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 03:45 PM
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I big part of mgtow is about personal responsibility. You are correct in the things you say, in general. How you react is your responsibility. You're getting angry. That will hurt you physically and emotionally. It will not solve anything. Take your information and act on it. Choose to avoid women and don't read articles that make you upset. I avoid almost all news these days. Make a goal and see it through, without it being related to women. Learn your own worth and strive to improve yourself. …
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 02:29 PM
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I challenge you to find one old guy on here who has an empty life. Stop drinking the Kool-aid, it has harmful stereotypical drugs in it. Media is designed to take your money and sell you lies.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 02:24 PM
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I get all the real love I need from my family.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 02:13 PM
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You sound unhappy for various reasons. The job market is hot right now, you may want to get out before you let her know how you feel and you get fired.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 01:35 PM
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The idea that someone will love you through all of lives adversities is very tempting. It takes a real hard terrible divorce to open some men's eyes. Look at the re-marriage rate, men re-marry more than women and faster. This shows that even the average divorce doesn't shake men loose from the delusion of romantic love. I'd like to hear from some our Indian brothers about romantic love in a place of arranged marriages. Do men still yearn for romantic love?
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 01:31 PM
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There is so much anger here at mgtow. The true Scotsman Fallacy: Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge." Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." mgtow is a philosophy and no one man knows what a true mgtow is. There are infinite roads to choose when going your own way.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 01:25 PM
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They key point of the video came at the end. He said if you're having problems in your relationship...LEAVE. That's the secret power of mgtow, the ability to LEAVE without feeling like you're going to lose everything. You'll always have yourself. If she fights with you...LEAVE. If she threatens you...LEAVE. If you don't trust her...LEAVE. You're simply bored and want out...LEAVE. No sex or bad sex...LEAVE. ...etc.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 10:43 AM
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"I'm in charge of creating a happy ending." That is the essence of mgtow. People want to know how. You just do it, it's free, it actually saves you money.
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 10:25 AM
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Here's a video that played directly after the linked video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH1FuhDUpiE In it a woman get's 1 year in prison for falsely accusing two football players of rape. Progress is being made. Read the comments, everyone thinks this is a miscarriage of justice. If he had to carry her up the stairs and his frat mates thought she was so drunk that they didn't want her in the house then red flags were flying all over the place and he should have put her in her dorm room and c…
/r/MGTOW213/07/21 10:17 AM
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I know it sounds weird but women know this well, it's time to get back on the horse. Find somebody new, they don't have to be perfect.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 11:46 PM
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Like, that's pretty funny but, trawling r/datingoverthirty for women that are surprised by being treated equally is like shooting fish in a barrel. Try r/datingoverfifty . They are not so hostile. The wall comes for all of us, eventually.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 11:06 PM
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It's when they take your children...it's hard to imagine what it's like if you've never had children. It was just like getting my arm cut off. And I suffered about ten years of severe ptsd after that. Lost my job, house, and sanity. When they asked me if I was going to commit suicide I said, no. I'm going to sue you all. And I did. And came out OK.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 10:14 PM
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I don't care if a man goes his way and becomes a woman or anything else. Women transitioning, I feel the same. This is the trans movements time in the limelight and I wish them all the best. Throughout history there have been trans people and frequently they are considered criminals and degenerates. I'm glad to see people are seeing them as people first and their gender second. No, they aren't any more delusional than cis gendered people who think women are always good or always bad (AWALT) or m…
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 09:29 PM
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There are two sexes and intersex people. There are infinite number of genders. I just heard of a new one, faegender. A woman who sometimes feels like a woman but never feels like a man.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 09:25 PM
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She's thinking "But he has two jobs he can get with this!". But for half a weeks wages, he could get with that. That's what guys are really thinking.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 09:22 PM
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Read what this guy has to say. That's basically Marriage 1.0 in the US. He can't even divorce her. Of course, him worrying about his assets is crazy. His freedom is gone.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 09:17 PM
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With that attitude, we'll have another boy who wishes he didn't have a strong mother attending mgtow2 soon. She gimping him from the get go.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 09:00 PM
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In general yes, but seniors can still build muscle. https://www.npr.org/2011/02/21/133776800/seniors-can-still-bulk-up-on-muscle-by-pressing-iron#:\~:text=Science-,Seniors%20Can%20Still%20Bulk%20Up%20On%20Muscle%20By%20Pressing%20Iron,muscle%20mass%20by%20lifting%20weights.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 08:55 PM
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I agree, as you see, I try to back up my assertions. Most times, in looking stuff up, I learn a lot. All men and all women, barring exceptions like a rare muscle wasting disease can grow muscle. But not AWALT. Neither are all men like that.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 06:16 PM
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This is not a scientific journal so I'm not bothered by the lack of references, you could just ask for them if you don't want to look it up. Google is pretty easy to use these days. I don't see where he said men can build muscle at any age, but it's true. It's true for women too. If you take steroids muscles can be made to grow. As you get older muscles are more difficult to grow, I think, but don't know. I do know that many much older men work out and build muscle. 99 year old man who works out…
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 05:57 PM
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Because the women's union, feminism, is trying to push for men marrying and taking care of older women, and they define misogyny as anything they disagree with, indeed the concept of a point in which a woman become generally unattractive to men is very misogynistic. Since we hear are don't listen to what feminists say, sure, there is a point at which women become much harder to date. The same with men. I turned sixty recently and women clearly have a wall about men. I used to get much more atten…
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 05:41 PM
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Going your own way and helping others is the greatest way to channel energies previous generations have spent chasing women.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 05:35 PM
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Their position, feminism, is not built on logic. It's built on power politics. Agree with us or you're personally and professionally ruined is the only logic they use. There is no debate. We left the building. The only debate is amongst ourselves. The greater debate happens in kitchens and around dinning room tables between individual men and women. We are the first group of men to actually speak their mind openly without negotiating our answers with woman. Without begging for some action. That …
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 02:28 PM
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You can keep traditional women. The sex is worse and the settlement is more. And, they are the least likely to let you see your children after divorce, in my opinion.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 01:34 PM
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What this post makes me think of is the mgtow meme that helping others, if it puts you at risk, is a bad idea. I disagree. The human spirit doesn't just survive on bread. Spiritual nutrition can be gained by doing good for others. Just because you've gone your own way doesn't mean you turn your back on society. As a libertarian leaning person, going to war seems like a bad idea. But should a war be justified, I would endeavor to help. I would volunteer. This came up for me during covid when doct…
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 01:32 PM
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I once had a two year relationship with a woman that was 5 years older than me. She was typical of other women. We both liked adventure, but she always was competing with me. She could never share our fun. So, eventually, I lost interest. When I wanted a child, she was out. I met someone 7 years younger and married her...yes, I regret it...lol.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 01:24 PM
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That's because we're able to handle dissenting opinions as our philosophy is built on facts and logic.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 01:19 PM
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So angry...I don't see anger here. I see a lot of curiosity.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 10:12 AM
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So the head of Buddism, the living Buddah, is a feminist. That's all this tells us.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 10:11 AM
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I dated an older women in my 20's. I never thought of her as a serious long term relationship...staying together forever. She was way too old compared to girls I could get that were my age. She was good in bed, that was why I stayed.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 10:05 AM
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My cousin, 67 is married to a man 60. He'll die way before her but they get along fine. I date women much younger than me. I find that women in their 40's especially like younger men. All power to them.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 10:04 AM
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Feminism fully subsumed the civil rights movement. Is OJ guilty...no. Should false accusers face repercussions...no.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 10:01 AM
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It's called patriarchy or more recently, bro code.
/r/MGTOW212/07/21 01:47 AM
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Yin and yang are essential and the exact opposite and complementary. Neither is better. I'm into Taoism.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 11:14 PM
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A lot of people need me. I'm my mom's primary caretaker, she turned 90 last week. I still consume, get taxed, get tracked. I just believe in freedom of speech and trust the legal system will uphold my right to say the family court is screwed and needs reform. And PAS is a thing. Only then will men have a chance to consider risking having children.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 08:35 PM
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Well I came up hard about getting doxxed one time. It's easier than you think. Natural language processing is very sophisticated. From your post history, if you ever share personal situations, they can learn a lot. It's all research now but AI is huge in this area. We are the genie pigs. The combination of this tracking from people who have shown recently they cannot stop us except by force could lead to some doxxing. Honestly, I have nothing to hide. I realized that from my first encounter. I'm…
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 07:48 PM
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I agree there is always in group bias. It was feminists in the early 1970's that convinced women that they would have more freedom and more stuff and get to keep the house and the kids, if they turned politically from the family, or husband, and toward their new political party, feminism, through the democratic party. And you're right, prior to that, in my memory, women would still favor a woman. They say men favor men but I've never seen it. However, I came of age after second wave feminism. Th…
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 07:42 PM
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There are targets on our backs. Reddit knows more than you think about us. They know our IP and there are scientists tracking us as a hate group. With Reddit's permission, they're doing computer science research using natural language processing trying to discover the pattern for "hate" so they can ban people for hate speech. Words like SMV or sexual market value are words they search for. Because we use slang, it's hard, they complain, to track our hate. I'm sure they're tracking usernames. The…
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 07:33 PM
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Who reads feminist critiques of men's videos? MGTOW was born out of not listening to women in defining men's issues. That's the problem with MRA's. MGTOWer's see that as a compliment. They can't handle facts, it's only feelz for feminists.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 07:15 PM
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Treasure her memory. She sounds like one of the good ones.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 06:26 PM
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You speak the truth, it's the true red pill and biggest and hardest to swallow of all. I received full custody and nine months. At three years, my ex requested 50/50 so we had a custody evaluation. In it the evaluator told my ex secretly that she would have given my ex full custody but because I had full custody, legally, it wouldn't fly. I know this because my ex bragged to me about it. She said the custody evaluator assured her our son would go with her once he turned 12. I though that was rid…
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 06:24 PM
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Heartbreak is the price of love. Loss comes with every gain. You still have yourself and that's what living free get's you. All the preparation and work on yourself is paying off. Some think they cannot live once they lose love. MGTOW teaches happiness from within.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 06:08 PM
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Maybe they're will be a Pirates of the Caribbean 8, Dead Husbands Tell No Tales, in which Captain Jack Sparrow has his finger cut off by the lovely young lady he's courting she accuses him of abuse and he's let off the ship and she becomes the Governor of Treasure Island. Then we'd at least have some truthful tale telling by Disney. Here is a Pirates of the Caribbean short I found, "Tales of the Code: Wedlocked. In it two ladies of the night are scheduled to marry Jack Sparrow but instead find t…
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 06:04 PM
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In playwriting there are comedies and tragedies. It is said that you know if it's a comedy when at they get married. In a tragedy, they all die. Romeo and Juliet was a tragedy.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 05:26 PM
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Lyle Lovett, ex husband of Julia Roberts, She Ain't no Lady, She's My Wife, from 1986. It was the first dose of the red pill 35 years ago for me. At the time I was already married. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o3m1FwhusY Now when I think of going out, I want to be singing this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 05:02 PM
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It's not even close to a wash. A surrogate costs about 5K for the egg, 20K for the surrogate and 10K in attorney fees. A wedding can easily cost 100K. The reason to use a surrogate is because you get to actually raise your child. In divorce, you're lucky to get 50/50 and even then should the mother choose to alienate you, teach your kids to hate you, which happens more often than not, your flesh and blood will hate you. That's a worse hell than prison. It happened to my brother, and, despite me …
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 04:37 PM
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I read the woke Medium Magazine. Men are mainly programmers and mathematicians. They all seem to say mgtow is the way to go.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 04:26 PM
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Agreed, mgtow is a state of mind, not a state of relationships.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 04:24 PM
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My 24 year old son is Gen Z and he's a die hard feminist. But your right, he's heard of mgtow, he says we "Are the Patriarchy". lol. So the red pill is penetrating Gen Z.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 04:23 PM
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No, I had him the hard way. Marriage, then divorce and a 14 year fight for 50/50. After my experience with the "system", I recommend hiring a surrogate.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 04:00 PM
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Sure you can, you just won't pay for it. I'm overweight and old and I have to decide if I want this 25 year old I know to come over this weekend. Why? Because it's transactional.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 03:56 PM
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Sadly he's wasting his time. If he's lucky, he'll stop fighting and go his own way. Then, when his kids are 25, again if he's lucky, they'll seek him out. If he doesn't, his ex will turn the kids against him. He'll see them for a while and when they are teenagers they will refuse to see him. Then they will hate him forever. If he walks away, at 25, the kids may seek him out. Then he may have relationship with them.
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 03:54 PM
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All that will get you is time alone with your steroids. Women don't want ripped guys. The guys that say that on here are wrong. Look at the thread this weekend about the guys on here actually dating. The commonality is that they just don't care if they date or not. It sounds counter-intuitive. Women say they want confident men. In reality they want men that are just a little more confident than them. Women are completely confused about what they want. If you have a plan for your life, most women…
/r/MGTOW211/07/21 03:51 PM
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In other words, she missed these advantages she'd been enjoying all these years. I'm not surprised she was unaware of her advantages. I think most women totally take it for granted that they're special. Phyllis Schlafly, key opponent of the Equal Rights Amendment used the loss of special privilege as her main argument against the ERA. Most women agreed. That's why there is no ERA. I have always wondered if the ERA would be helping men more now than women. Phyllis Schlafy quote: “Feminism is doom…
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 10:29 PM
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I was there when our group, a pretty huge group of mgtowers, first introduced AWALT. It was assumed by all just to be a dig against feminists. They were famous for saying all men are abusive, etc. No one took it seriously. All of anything are like anything, there are always individual variations if you are using logic in your conversation.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 10:10 PM
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I once had a date with a woman who was considering, seriously, transitioning to a man. I have to say that she/they/he was very different from the other genetic females I ever went out with. After sex, she had a vagina, she didn't appear to think I owed her something. it was actually bizarre. There was no little hints that since I had access to the vagina, now I owed her something. Women can act like human beings it''s just that the incentives to behave like a "woman" is too great. And if they sp…
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 10:08 PM
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This is emotional abuse. If you feel bad...it's emotional abuse. If you stay then it may escalate to physical abuse. I imagine she was shit testing you because she wants to know you'll stay around if she get's pregnant. This is the way of women. Instead of an adult conversation they do this. This is a pattern and she will do other things like this if you stay with her. Your choice.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 11:16 AM
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You probably waited too long to file against her for DV. Did you have witnesses? If so you could have filed, but to what purpose? What you want is her out. Who cares after that. The bruise was well used by your dad to get her to not come back. The main take home point is to separate yourself from aggressive and violent women especially at the time of divorce or break up. It sounds like your dad has a good lawyer and years of women saying they are equal now leads to men seeking alimony. Great. Th…
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 11:02 AM
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The payoff of mgtow is in the later years, so, pretty great. I'm retired, have a good relationship with my son and money to travel and have fun. I spend 1/4 of my time caring for my elderly mother, age 90. That is rewarding.
/r/MGTOW209/07/21 10:54 AM
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Right. I was thrilled to get custody and paying 700 a month was the price of being in my son's life. She left me when he was nine months to go live 8 hours away with no discussion and a kiss on the cheek as I went to work. She knew I wanted 50/50 if we split up, I made it clear and she agreed before I married her. She did far worse things when 14 years later she met a very rich guy and decided to void the 50/50 and move one thousand miles away. Money is the least pain in this kind of situation. …
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 08:52 PM
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You're exactly right. I went to five years of weekly marriage counseling with my first wife because she had severe depression and was never happy. Not once did they consider anything I had to say. It was strictly training for me, her slave. It was a good experience because when my second wife had decided to leave me, one of the tip offs was that she insisted on dragging me to marriage counseling. Rather than take is seriously I used it to collect evidence I then successfully used in my custody c…
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 07:08 PM
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I'm 60, moved near my large extended family at 50. I am very involved with my nieces and nephews. I have many interests and enjoy them. If I were in a relationship I would not. I've been there before, a few times.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 05:25 PM
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Ackhhh, run, hide...this is no country for young men.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 03:26 PM
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You don't have complete control over this anymore. This game is hardball, there is no choice. First get smart. Go see a lawyer. Then stop talking to her except by email. Then save all your emails. You'll need them for court. Try to convince her to abort because from what you said this is already a shit show and your child, if it is your child, will be raised in it. Never agree to or promise her anything from now on. Those promises will be held against you in court. If you want to raise this chil…
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 03:24 PM
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80% of men are unattractive to women so join the club. It's a numbers game, especially with online dating. Spam a bunch of girls, some will come through for you.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 03:04 PM
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If you're getting the feeling that you wasted a lot of time texting women that are just looking for an extra guy to chat with, emotional tampon, your correct. Don't waste your time. Get their number, ask out three a night and if one comes through your good. Always have something to do because getting a response is unlikely as you have now discovered. What's going on? They are playing the field and you're one of six guys they're texting at any one time.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 02:32 PM
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These women know they don't have to obey their western partners. They are fully aware of the cultural differences. They all watch TV.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 02:24 PM
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These films end in the way depicted by "Eat Pray Love". Once the woman is 35 or 40, she leaves because she's bored then find's a rich south American dude who wisks her off her feet. Women don't try to hide their hypergamy anymore, why would anyone sign a contract with someone like that?
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 01:58 PM
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Western men go all the time to these countries. The locals write books about how to manipulate these men by appealing to their desire to get away from western feminized females. They too are feminized but they just hide it. The TV reaches everywhere and every woman loves Sex in the City.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 01:55 PM
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Browse the posts here, there are many on why did you become mgtow.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 01:51 PM
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Here's a post in responses to the article that reflects some of the sentiment here. I struck up a friendship (I thought) with a feminist writer on Medium. Months of private email where I bared my soul and told her of my demons. Then, in public comments on a story I wrote, out it came with all the venom of a bamboo viper. "Sit down and shut up white man. You have no right to speak. You're a racist Mr. Hyde..." I deleted all my stories and considered leaving Medium. Lesson learned. Good luck with …
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 01:31 PM
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I was married twice. The first time she kicked me out because I wasn't helping her depression. Nothing helped her depression so I was happy to get out. At first we split everything 50/50 amicably. Then we each went to have the arrangement looked at by separate attorneys. That's when the change occurred. Night and day. Then she became a ravenous ex looking to hurt hurt me financially to get revenge for all her lost dreams that she had when we married. My attorney used a little legal ju-jitsu. and…
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 01:15 PM
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No this is a list of averages taken by asking google, "What. is the average... fill in the blank.
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 12:20 AM
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The differentiation between gender and sex did not arise until the late 1970s, when researchers began using "gender" and "sex" as two separate terms, with "gender" referring to one's self-identity and "sex" referring to one's chromosomal makeup and sex organs. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Social_construction_of_gender#:~:text=The%20differentiation%20between%20gender%20and,chromosomal%20makeup%20and%20sex%20organs. Soon after the start of second wave feminism around 1968 to 1970. After feminism co…
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 12:19 AM
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The average salary of a man in the US is 38,684 dollars a year, or 3,219 dollars a month. In NY State for one child, that's an average 547 dollars a month child support she get's, using the Flat Percentage Model, according to the site. supportpay.com/resources/child-support-calculator The average rent in the USA for a one bedroom apartment is 1,124 dollars a month. He's living on an average 2,672 dollars a month after he pays her child support. That's 1,528 dollars, on average to live on for the…
/r/MGTOW208/07/21 12:04 AM
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If we fuck up, the condom breaks or a funny reaction to her pill, she has to raise it or kill it. She shoulders the entire responsibility. Women are strong. Men and women generally can do anything the other sex can do. And, on average, do it just about as well. Most work is drone work. Edit: I made this post to see if current mgtow guys really care about facts and number is just a political movement. I'm at -5 so I guess I know my answer.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 11:19 PM
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It's nice to see young men spreading the word among themselves. So feminist sites like this can't stop the spread of the mgtow idea. Avoid marriage. In the video they say marry if you want children. Wrong. Marry if you want someone that hates you and earns money off bleeding you to raise your children.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 09:25 PM
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My ex-wife re-married a multi-millionaire. When she used his money to take away my fair shared custody, 50% physical because he lived three states away, I asked my attorney that, since they're married can't I go after his money. He told me no because he's a trust fund person and that money is all tied up. If you re-marry, see a lawyer. There are ways to keep the ex from reaching into the new wife's pocket book. Interestingly, I won and she moved without our son. The only stipulation she put into…
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 09:08 PM
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I've gone my own way sans romantic relationships but I still have many family and friends I spend time with frequently. I had a woman over my house last year and all I could think of was how small the house felt with two people in it. Not a pleasant thought.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 09:01 PM
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I'm sixty and spent the weekend with four couples who are married/together for over ten years. One couple was in love. The others barely tolerated each other. My ninety year old mother says about a quarter of her friends married over 30 years are happily married. So, the chances of long term love, the way the people I asked define it, is about 25%.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 11:12 AM
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My son is mid-twenties and is just changing majors to ecology. He is passionate about saving the forests. What issues are you passionate about? Think you can't make a difference? Get some training, go to school and you'll make a difference. I worked in a hospital until I retired. That was a great place to feel a purpose in life. Helping others.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 10:57 AM
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From Machiavelli's Discourses, a summary of the first ten books of Livy's History of the Roman Republic. From Wikipedia: Chapter 26 claims vilification and abuse generate hatred against those who use them, without any utility to them. He is saying that the abuse that men do to women is something that brings hatred not only from the victim, but from everyone who hears about it as well. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Discourses\_on\_Livy Emotional manipulation is abuse. It generates hatred from every…
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 02:09 AM
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I was talking to a woman a few months ago. I noticed her answers were kind of short. Not details. When I confronted her with this she admitted she was on probation and couldn't openly talk on the phone. See you later...gotta go. The biggest red flag of all is a criminal record. Those women are convicted criminals. You let those women into your life, it's your own fault.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:53 AM
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Written by a young Niccolò Machiavelli,
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:48 AM
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I have enough control and experience that I now have the police on quick dial should I face female aggression. I document everything important, legally, of course. I have had good experiences every time I've dealt with the police. But you have to be smart and prepared.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:45 AM
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Ever heard of El Kabong? Quick Draw McGraw? It was a cartoon when I was a kid. In it the sheriff, a cartoon horse would draw his guitar and bang it over the head of his adversary. Well, one day I'm playing my guitar while my ex yells at me. She became so infuriated that she grabbed my guitar and El Kabonged it on the tile floor to splinters. I just smiled. The next day I took her to the city and bought my dream guitar. It cost 850 dollars, a Martin D-35. She cried real tears. Today new it's 3,20…
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:40 AM
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If your father never told you, be wary of girls on drugs. Especially ones inside your house.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:32 AM
1

I did some research last year and went on two of the major Incel sites. On it I saw two interesting things. There appeared to be no interest in sex. They appeared to want women to love them. They were loveless. That's why suggestion's of using a sex worker has no appeal to them. They also appeared to be clinically depressed. I suppose the combination of MGTOW sort of avoidant philosophy toward women, and painting a very unflattering, even if accurate, picture of women's nature could send a young…
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:26 AM
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Their culture is very different than ours. It would be a culture shock for them to come to the west. They have close families and in the US at least, we live seperately. Have you ever seen Eddy Murphy's Raw video? In it he talks about a bush woman he meets riding an elephant in Africa. He brings her back to the US and one night with his friends wives, the new wife says "Edddyyy, oh Edddy, I want half!" And that's why it cannot work if you bring them here. And I wouldn't want to live there. If yo…
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:10 AM
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Brother and cousin? We have no way of knowing who they are. Why do men on here feel they need to belittle women? And who cares?
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:03 AM
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Most of the women I know pull their weight. But I am over 60 and was raised under Marriage 1.0. Marriage was a partnership to those who never considered divorce. For better or worse. So most of the women I know pull their own weight as partners. Some do most of the lifting.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 01:01 AM
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They think if all of them say something is true then it must be true. Groupthink. It's the way of post modern feminists.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 12:35 AM
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You'd murder your wife if she broke your property?
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 12:31 AM
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No, I'm just making sure every other lurker understands that the whole post is sarcasm.
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 12:29 AM
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So do you think it's ever justified to give your wife, hypothetically, an ass kicking?
/r/MGTOW207/07/21 12:27 AM
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I totally agree. The danger of sites like this is the echo-chamber effect. All I can do is tell my stories factually and without hyperbole. I don't avoid negative events as these are the most useful to learn from. I try to balance my events with hindsight and try to report events that are relevant to other men, not just my unique situation.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 07:57 PM
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She lived with me for three years and it cost me 300 dollars to have her evicted. They saved me bank. Your right about cops being lazy. To convince them to ask her to leave I appealed to their hatred of paperwork. I told them that this would lead to another set of cops having to do even more reports.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 07:52 PM
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Be careful. When you say you manipulated women into sex you mean you lied, which means deceived women and then had sex with them. Therefore, legally, they did not have consent as they consented to a lie. Should a women realize this, you may end up in jail. A few years ago there was a case of an Arab man that said he was Jewish and had sex with an Israeli woman. He ended up going to jail for rape. https://abcnews.go.com/International/palestinian-claimed-jew-jailed-rape-deception/story?id=11224513…
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 06:32 PM
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I've been around MGTOW from way before the incel community arose. I think that it is possible that to younger men who have not been in relationships that hearing how bad it really is from the trenches, is devastating. But it's the truth. What's the point of lying to these young men? They would learn the truth soon enough, then us older experienced men would be disbelieved just as they disbelieve socialize messages to them that their role is to support women. I continue to tell the truth and, whi…
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 06:25 PM
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Your entire post is sarcasm, right?
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 06:16 PM
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I agree. I stay close with my extended family.
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 05:15 PM
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This happened to me as well. My ex live in girlfriend decided to move out because I wasn't spending enough time with her as I was preparing for my son's custody case. As she was packing she decided to break my electronics. When she threw my iPhone on the floor, I called her father to have him ask her to stop. She got so upset that she picked up the phone and screamed "HELP". Ten minutes later three cop cars arrived, as I expected. I was prepared and put on a movie and pretended to be watching it…
/r/MGTOW206/07/21 05:12 PM
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It's a war zone out their boys. Make sure you wear you latex flack jacket or be ready for some life changing incoming. Losing your job sucks, paying to raise a child for 18 years that is taught to hate you is far worse. Use pro's. They don't sue you years later...except for Stormy Daneils...lol.
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 10:34 AM
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Never had that experience, perhaps it's just a coincidence. Money is money to a waiter/waitress.
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 10:30 AM
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Try fighting with a male enemy. It's just the same. I peripherally had a beef with a co-worker and he waited 15 years to attack me. He picked an event that happened 20 years before, my divorce, and said to management that I lied and said I was at work when I was in court for my divorce. I'm just like everyone else and didn't remember if I'd lied or not. I generally don't lie. Luckily I hadn't and kept my job. No woman in sight, male on male aggression is just the same as female on male. The thin…
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 09:55 AM
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I have rules. If a girl doesn't cancel a date at least 24 hours before the date, there is no rescheduled date. She's showed she is a flake or Chad showed up or just disrespectful of my time so, sorry, not sorry, goodbye. Message 5 a day, make plans with three a night and maybe one will come through. Online dating is simply a numbers game.
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 09:31 AM
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You're right, the combination of the sexual revolution, birth control and the rise of feminism is what sent women to work. Before 1970, fewer women worked. After the feminists took power in 1970, after the riots and protests of 1968, they controlled legislation and Hollywood and started the train we're on right now. It's no wonder then that no fault divorce became law around the same time. Women still say they have the same demands they started with 51 years ago. It will not change. They will co…
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 09:28 AM
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Because men and women are the same. 28% of men say they've fucked their bosses and 26% of women say they've fucked their bosses. Women cheat, men cheat. Don't trust a man anymore than you would a woman. I disagree with the mgtow idea that supporting your "brother" is any more valuable than supporting your sister. MGTOW is not a union for men like feminism is a union for women. MGTOW is about individuals going their own way. Every one will take advantage of you if it's in their self interest.
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 09:19 AM
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The curse of abundance is a first world problem and especially a US problem. There is great ness out there. Forget the post. modernists and study the classics. Then develop a sense of proportion. You'll find yourself ignoring all the fast food and searching for the meat in what you listen to and watch. Try reading. Then try to make your youtube creations. timeless and classic. Over time these will stand out and. you'll have more than you niche audience.
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 09:15 AM
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I heard one study quoted on the radio. It said that 80% of women surveyed would have sex with their bosses for a promotion or positive favor. And 26% have had sex with their bosses. But men have similar numbers with 28% of men reportedly having had sex with their bosses. That means your little cupcake. What can you do about it? Nothing. If you don't let them go to work you're controlling. And if she cheats with the boss do you really want to be with her? So let it go and watch her when you are t…
/r/MGTOW203/07/21 12:54 AM
1

Happy wife, happy wife. Miserable husband and miserable children.
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 03:56 PM
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In any field, being especially skilled is valued. Even affirmative action hires know that skilled people are essential. Keep it up. I am a professional with a professional degree but I also code in R and Python as well as Mathematica and am currently learning math for data science. I started learning to program in fortran in 1981. I'm not looking for a job, I'm retired. But I can't stop learning. Once you start lifelong learning, it never ends because it's fun and interesting. It takes a lifelon…
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 03:52 PM
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Congradulations, post from space, I can't wait to see "mgtow in outer space" in your post.
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 03:46 PM
2

I heard a great quote from a movie: "The dying are not concerned with the living." I think that's true. I have a son and he won't be there when I die, has a life and lives far away. I have a large extended family so I'm sure there will be lots of people at my funeral. I take comfort in that.
/r/MGTOW202/07/21 03:37 PM
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Same with me. My father didn't have time for either me or my brother, he was too busy working and building a small fortune. My mother was so concerned she had us go to work with him every summer and at nights. I learned to work very hard and to not worry about dirty work. The best lessons I ever learned. My dads job consisted of loading his truck at the his factory, driving to his customers factory, dropping off the work and picking up more work. It was a ratty old truck with a rebuilt engine an…
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 12:08 PM
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Flowers are a weapon in the gender wars that cuts both ways. Women are fools for flowers and men can be even bigger fools...like me...lol.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 12:05 PM
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That was a long time ago, I'd say 28 years ago. I'm fine. We had a son, I won full custody and now he's 24. I'm fine, been an MRA for 24 years and mgtow for 9. I'm an old mgtow pro.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 10:13 AM
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Slave to future slave talk. I dumped my son's mom for acting according to her social programming and my son never saw me simp. I hope he learns the ways son's learn best, by example.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 10:07 AM
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Practice extreme semen retention and live forever. Become immortal. r/taoism
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 09:58 AM
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I asked my 90 year old mom how many of her friends, married over 50 years, are happily married. Her conclusion was half. So your chances of a successful marriage, measured by happiness, is about 25%. And these are people born 1930-1940, pre-feminism, circa 1970.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 09:52 AM
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Thai and Filipino women are just the same and in some ways worse. Read more, check out men that have brought them over here. When laws favor divorce, they're first in line. They don't marry for love, romantic love is not as ensconced in their culture as in the West. They marry for money and when the money equation favors divorce, they're right on it. Then some other Western sap who thinks asian women are "different" get's to pay their bills.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 09:44 AM
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This reminds me of when I was dating many years ago. I had so many dates at one time that I was spending 50 dollars a week on valet parking. I made a rule that if a woman asked for valet parking that would be the last date with her. My second wife was the first to run foul of this rule. Despite there being perfectly adequate street parking a block away, she demanded valet parking because...heels. Not high heels but she had on half way high heels. I dumped her before we entered the restaurant and…
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 09:30 AM
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That is were we differ. I'm from the libertarian side of mgtow and believe every man's best is his individual choice. No judgements.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 02:08 AM
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Then ten years later, when he's running for State Assembly, the local paper get's a phone call...an allegation of rape. It costs nothing to be kind.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 01:26 AM
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It means the AI is biased against women...no...wait...
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 01:22 AM
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In some things, like love, there is no teacher like experience. I'm trying to save my son from that but his first serious girlfriend broke his heart. But he had a healthy relationship and learned a lot. About himself, he's much more mature. I'm starting to believe you should already have been in a relationship to learn from mgtow. Some are obviously mature, but many are clearly not.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 01:16 AM
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Those with extremely low self esteem are encouraged to respond.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 12:47 AM
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When i was 17 a wise man once told me that the house, wife, the kids, the white picket fence...it's a wet dream.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 12:39 AM
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I blame it on the Troubadours of Europe. Between 1100-1350 musicians and singers would find their way to the royal court where, frequently as this was the crusades, he queen was alone. The singers, Troubadours, would woe the lady of the castle with love songs. This is thought to be the genesis of the European concept of courtly love, or as we say, romantic love.
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 12:36 AM
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Well said. Thanks for sharing. Now go and make it better and call her and apologize. Let her know that you couldn't help yourself as your boyish desires took over.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 06:33 PM
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I think you have your head screwed on exactly right. Keep to the plan, don't get deflected. Have a happy life, that's the plan.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 06:13 PM
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Working out is good for you health both mentally and physically. Don't work out to meet girls. Work out for yourself.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 06:04 PM
1

I quoted the references I got the data from. Go argue with them. It amazes me how men come on here and think they can out think data. You're make a bunch of statements with no supporting data. Where is the data showing that COVID is just as deadly as the flu? Where is the data showing that masks don't help in preventing respiratory infections? Where is the data supporting HCQ as being effective? Why are you calling a safe vaccine a bio-weapon and we all can see the data on the vaccines safety in…
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 06:01 PM
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When men think a relationship is the metric to be judged by then modern men may see themselves as failures as marriage is becoming less common. I write songs and do cancer research. I also have a vibrant and growing extended family. There is a lot to live for these days.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 04:54 PM
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College is great and my relationships were great...for a while. Enjoy them, but always be ready to leave. It's not hard to do. I have my son to show for my efforts. It was all worthwhile. Would I do it again? No. I'd be much richer, still have my university professor job and a house worth 900K. I lost them all in the custody fight. My two friends who never got married, one a male, the other a female, don't regret not having children. That's my data, now listen to no one and go your own way.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 04:32 PM
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We had a boy in our neighborhood who used to kill small animals. We avoided him. One good looking girl in our click used to go out with him. Such behavior is one of the criteria for a diagnosis of serious mental illness like a psychopath diagnosis or sociopath diagnosis. Feel happy you didn't know this about him and can cherish his memory. We are all part good and part bad.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 04:26 PM
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I agree 100%. Even my family knows about my involvement with going my own way. My son too. They don't judge me at all regarding it. They see the social programming as it's very obvious these days.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 01:00 PM
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I agree, there is too much emphasis on mgtow forums on how women are bad and not enough on individual responsibility. The world doesn't suck, most of us here live in the richest countries in the world and have great jobs/income. There is no reason to complain and every reason to celebrate. Like you said, work out, work hard, save money and retire early. No other generation of men could do it so easily as todays man.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 12:48 PM
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I read on Wikipedia that pre-nups should be considered to be fully enforceable as long as it was fairly drawn up and both sides have legal council. It's no surprise that in the last few years at a time when women earn more than men and this will continue into the future, women have agreed to enforce pre-nups in the courts.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 11:42 AM
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When you're a father they're never lost. Fatherhood is for life. You learn when they are young. If they fall down, brush them off and stand them back up again...that is when they're open to learning.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 10:57 AM
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Eliminating male desire has been a philosophers dream for all of recorded history. Not just about dating/marriage but just in terms of freeing the mind for more "superior" purposes. I don't believe that purity is important so there is nothing superior in abstaining from sex to me. I think the monk idea is a bad one. Who wants to be a monk? Men aren't breaking down the doors of monasteries. Sex is one of the great pleasures in life. Men are having much less sex in their 20's over the past 20 year…
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 10:48 AM
3

I studied ballet in college. I took it because it was full of pretty girls and weight lifting was full of thick dudes. What I didn't expect was to learn how important posture is to your health. Stand up straight guys. The bullshit we hear each day of how man are shit might make you walk around with your shoulders hunched. Don't. Be a winner and walk bolt upright. It will help your back and confidence.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 10:29 AM
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Nice looking dogs. Congratulations. Dogs, like women, are a lot of work. I've switched to cats. As a dog person generally I was skeptical about cats but they are very loving and outgoing, much to my surprise.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 10:26 AM
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I raised my son alone. I clean my own house I don't cook often but can afford to order in. Recently a woman in her 50's immediately started our online texting with "So your Italian, I bet you can cook well". Clearly starting the division of labor with "I won't cook for you but expect you to cook for me". and 5. I am my mom's primary caretaker, much to her dismay. My younger sister no longer feels she needs to care for out 90 year old mother because...it doesn't make her feel fulfilled...feminism…
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 10:21 AM
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Men who say anything non-positive about women are labelled women haters all over the place and on the internet. That's why men who simply want to be left alone, mgtow men, are reviled and cancelled. How is your father supposed to tell you anything that your mother would potentially divorce him over? What about you? When a man hears that telling the truth is ruining his son's chances of ever having a successful relationship, what should he do? My son is 24. I've been involved with mgtow helping y…
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 10:12 AM
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He's a data scientist so a mathematician. He is absolutely correct. This data trend has been going on for over a decade an is one of the reasons for the rise of the mgtow philosophy 11 years ago. Women have left the building. They're not interested in men anymore except for three years while they get pregnant then you're out. It's not a debate. It's math.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:53 AM
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What I get out of this is, engage a snake, get bit. It's lucky the first poster didn't get fired for talking about women's issues in the office. Why would you do that when you know they're out to rid the workplace of men that don't conform. The real purpose of me-too.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:24 AM
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US Marriage Rates: The current rate is the lowest on record in 100 years. Lower than during the Great Depression of 1929. The marriage rate was 8/100,000 in 1929, about 10/100,000 in 1990 now it's 6/100,000. I have one source that puts it at 3/100,000. Marriage is dead. Put a fork in it. https://www.statista.com/statistics/195951/marriage-rate-in-the-united-states-since-1990/ And it wasn't men that conceived of this plan to kill marriage. It was women. We have no choice but to abandon marriage. …
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 09:16 AM
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What are you talking about? This is way more serious than a building falling down. In Florida 150 or so people died. In the world 3.93 million people died. Please be serious. This is a public health crisis. The vaccines have been tested side effects are known and rare. Efficacy is excellent. California has single digit numbers of cases four months after introduction of the vaccine. Why do some people here want to see millions of people die? To score debate points?
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 08:55 AM
2

No written evidence, no credit card, cash only.
/r/MGTOW230/06/21 12:51 AM
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Keep quiet, pick a day and leave in the morning for work and don't come home. Then don't come back. Don't extend this.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 10:57 PM
2

Rape to a sex worker is if you don't pay them what you agreed to pay them.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 10:38 PM
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There are high end escorts, clean and too expensive. There are mid level escorts that are pretty and youngish. There are low level escorts that are not who they say they are and your calling them from the corner up the block(street walkers).
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 10:37 PM
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Be very nice, especially to the kids, they didn't ask for this. They may not appear to be affected but they are. Don't act unusually but get out of there like your scared to be there, because you should be. Leaving was the time my ex-wife and later, my ex-girlfriend, and then my son, called the cops. Be prepared. Don't fight. I begged my ex-girlfriend to stay just to keep her from getting angry I was kicking her out. I didn't mean it and I knew it wouldn't work so it cost me nothing. When the co…
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:39 PM
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I feel bad for them but not for the guys here, in their 40's, free, money in the bank, house paid for and ready for retirement at 50. In life there are winners and losers. Choose to be a winner and feel sorry for the losers.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:15 PM
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What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. You are lucky you're not too attached to the kids. I try to tell men, from my experience, children of other men generally don't like the new man laying down the rules. and laying their mother. A friend went through three years of pysch counseling with his ex and her three boys before she decided to leave him. She had the movers come without telling him it was over. When he arrived home his house was empty. No alimony, no child support...overall your a ve…
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:10 PM
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She's a bad bitch because she risked nothing, gained nothing and lost nothing. And she still has her BF's profit. It's a win win for her. That summarizes female investing strategy in a nut shell.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 08:56 PM
1

I once owned my boyhood dream car, a black convertible Corvette. I loved that car and have to say it was a sex machine. Girls, sometimes two at a time would bang me in that thing. But it was very expensive. I could only afford to own it for six months. 500 a month payments used and another 500 insurance a month.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:58 PM
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What ever you do, don't give them money before you meet them. That seems to be a common scam I'm finding out. I can't fuck and ugly chick, even if I wear a bag over my head and she does too...lol. That hasn't happened to me in over seven years I'd say.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:56 PM
1

When I used backpage dot com there were very many catfish. I was happy to drop that and don't usually use websites. It's too easy to be fooled.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:39 PM
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It's hard but very rewarding. If you learn to not get into a relationship without being able to leave at any time, you won't be held hostage when a women or wife leaves you. This is essential as women today learn that their power lies in leaving. Love children? Don't. Women think they own children. Default custody is moving toward 50/50 but todays woman thinks that they it not ever going to happen her and can fight you for years even if you win 50/50. My ex fought me for 14 years before my son g…
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:37 PM
2

Sorry, I'm not playing here. We're in a world wide health crisis and reddit reaches across the globe. 3.93 million people have died out of 182 million infected worldwide. That's about a 2% mortality rate. The internet says 3-4% death rate from COVID is estimated. The seasonal flu has a death rate under 0.1%. Different animal. COVID is 20-40 times more deadly than the flu. I always get my vaccinations. They are one of the biggest advances in medicine ever. Get vaccinated or let natural selection …
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:30 PM
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Very slim and pretty, 22-25, and intelligent with morals that don't hold when money is involved. I have no illusions of long term love, but I have a few dollars. I'm going to add, goes home before I'm bored of her.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:20 PM
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I grew up in a tough neighborhood in the Bronx and everyone carried knives and some carried guns. I learned to avoid conflict like the plague and learned to run really fast. It didn't hurt to have an Uncle Tommy or two. No guns for me, I'd more likely shoot myself cleaning it or, even more likely, not clean it for years then, when I need to use it, have it backfire on me and blow my own head off. Gun ownership is a pretty heavy responsiblity.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:15 PM
1

That was my thinking too. Why fight with my ex and my son will get to enjoy his childhood. Kindergarten hit him pretty hard. Now that public school was really a government school. Two girls bathrooms for every boys bathroom. They wouldn't inform me of my son's grades or give me his report card because they "didn't have staff to notify two parents" although it was LA and many people were divorced by the time the kids hit school. Of course my ex didn't notify me until it was too late and they want…
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 07:06 PM
1

I didn't go to pre-school, there was none that we knew of back then. I didn't send my son to pre-school because his mom wouldn't talk to me after the divorce and she had 50% so I couldn't put him in pre-school unilaterally. I realized my mistake when he entered kindergarten and didn't do well at all. All the other kids knew how to do school work. He was lost. I hired tutors and by about third grade he caught up.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:40 PM
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MGTOW'ers are just people and a lot of Americans are anti-vax or have become scared of vaccines probably because of anti-vaxxer propaganda. The rates of vaccinations rose from January through May and now have slowed down. Only 45% or so of Americans are vaccinated. 53% of NY'ers probably because NY was hit hardest. A lot of NY'ers died. https://www.google.com/search?q=graph+rates+of+covid+vaccine+usa&rlz=1C5CHFA\_enUS937US937&oq=graph+rates+of+covid+vaccine+usa&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i22i29i30.1569…
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:36 PM
1

A friend of my family cut his ex-wife, mother of his children's, throat. It was a one off, in the sense I'm using it. Not a common event, despite what the media tells you.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:19 PM
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Women are just people. I've worked with both men and women and was given a hard time by both in equal measure. If you want to work in groups then you have to learn to go along sometimes. If you don't get a job working alone. Do solo electrical, become a freelance engineer or something like that.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:13 PM
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If you continue to contact her she could imagine you were abusive to her. Then call the cops. Or decide she doesn't appreciate your anger and temper and would like a restraining order. Something that you might have to reveal in the future should you get into other trouble with other women in the future. And your lucky you didn't assault your ex-friend. Assault is a crime. Is it worth getting a record for this girl? For your anger/temper? Time to stay away. Go work out and deal with your anger. T…
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 06:07 PM
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I went to daycare in 1964, the more things change the more they stay the same. Pre-school is essential in my opinion as most of the other kids in kindergarten will have had pre-school. Someone who hasn't really can't compete.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 04:53 PM
3

You sound like my mom, born during the great depression and worked hard all her life. She ended up with some money though.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 04:19 PM
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Plans like yours are why in many places surrogacy, paying a woman to carry your child is either illegal or frowned upon. Try being a little less extreme and cheap, as your handle suggests. At 18 extreme seems correct. At 50 you just want to be left alone.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 04:17 PM
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I've developed the shit out of myself. I do it for myself. On paper women love me, like on the internet. But I gained a few pounds over the years. Attractive women of any age still want hot guys. As a matter of fact, in my experience, after women turn 50 and have had kids and have a job, looks is the main thing they are after. Still, women in their 20's are looking for a man of substance, $$$.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 03:45 PM
0

I'm not naive. I follow the money. People will do many things to get money. There is no money in this.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 03:19 PM
1

I agree, but it's not as private as a random place, like a hotel, that can't be staked out. I don't want to even go through what Kraft went through.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 02:59 PM
1

Thanks. Divorce law is a lot better in India. Are boys generally the required caregivers of the their parents or are girls also legally bound to care for their parents? I am the primary caretaker of my 90 year old mother. In my culture, Italian American, it's generally the daughter that care for the parents. My mom still can't get used to me being her primary caretaker as my sister is very busy with her now extended family as her children are having children.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 02:45 PM
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If alimony is granted in India, how long is granted for. In marriage 1.0, prior to the 1980's, it was frequently lifetime alimony as society deemed women unemployable. Now, under marriage 2.0 with no-fault, it's half as long as you're married, married six years pay for three, but after ten years it's up to the judge. Lifetime alimony is frowned upon, I think, but I really don't know.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 02:31 PM
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I use a service I trust for many years who vet their people. I stick to girls I know who express that they enjoyed a previous encounter. I tip every time, not too much, but the standard 100 on top of 400 let's say. I'm never cheap and always very respectful and ask permission before making any moves. I always get consent even though it's implied. Being nice is the key.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 02:07 PM
3

What does "truth game" mean?
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 01:32 PM
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Robert Kraft, owner of the New England Patriots, was filmed in the act yet they were forced to drop the charges. It's dumb to go a public place to commit a crime. If I were really concerned about being prosecuted I wouldn't partake. There are ways to reduce your risk.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 01:08 PM
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In my experience escorts want repeat customers more than anything else, except a big tip...lol. I have never had problems with an escort. Non-escorts, regular women, called the cops on me three times in my life. I barely got away with not being arrested. And each one I had lived with for over 3 years. They were dialing for revenge and dollars.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 12:18 PM
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For men it's also very tempting to buy, say, an expensive car as women then think you're wealthy. I knew a fellow in LA many years ago that drove a Rolls Royce and lived in a one bedroom small apartment. He got laid, but at what cost? Then, during the relationship some of these men keep up the facade by living beyond their means in their new relationship. It all comes crashing down once the bill is due. It's the rare woman that seeks a rich guy that will stay once she finds out it's all a house …
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 11:38 AM
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Yes of course you should take things less common into account but in proportion to it's real risk with is proportional to it's frequency. This is an old case and there have been very few others that are similar that I have heard making it a once in a few years event. Remember, we live in a very strange time for humans. Humans lived in smaller groups and didn't have mass communication for the vast majority of human existence. With the advent of mass communication, events far out in the world are …
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 10:38 AM
3

I read a lot. I play and write music for work and fun.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:53 AM
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This is very very racist. There is nothing wrong with inter-racial dating. I don't care why women date anyone because I know the reasons already. Anyone who doesn't know why women do things shouldn't have relationships with women. They are dangerous monkeys.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:50 AM
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That is some awesomely depressive shit. Sadness is a normal emotion and we all feel it. This is great music to listen to when you're sad. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:48 AM
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Work hard, save your money and, if you can avoid divorce or a custody fight, retire early. Men living past 80 is not common. Men should retire no later than 60, IMO and experience.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:45 AM
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There are bad women just as there are bad men. This is a one off and I'm not going to base my fears off a single case. Calling the police on you by your girlfriend/wife is much more common. and is something I prepare for when I'm seeing someone.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:43 AM
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The biggest problem I had dating a single mother is that her child and I grew very close so when she left we both were very upset.
/r/MGTOW229/06/21 09:40 AM
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You may need to see a doctor. You imply you're entertaining the idea you might have depression and that's worrisome. You also seem kind of doing random expensive shit.. MGTOW is a way of life if you're healthy.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:17 PM
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So you lost a mentally ill girlfriend who you were scared might call rape if you weren't careful. You had some sexual adventures together, now she's gone and it didn't cost you a dime and you were not arrested. Excellent news. When is the party? Get drunk, get over it and find someone new. It just takes two weeks... ; )
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 08:57 PM
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Still, I would have my wife work. Divorcing a non-working spouse is very expensive. You have to always be ready to bail these days if you get married.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 08:52 PM
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update This scary story is super common in the US. College tuition is between 20K to 50K/yr. That's 80K-200K in student loan debt per educated American. So, 160K to 400K per couple not counting graduate/professional school. Then we buy on our credit cards and get new ones when they max out. I used to get 3 credit cards in the mail per month. Not anymore, I rarely take loans.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 08:51 PM
5

I've heard other men try to create a bachelor environment. I've not seen it done yet.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 07:25 PM
2

And yet you might have more spending money than him. That's the point. Earn more, live on what you make now and retire in 15 years.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 07:20 PM
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It's the American way.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 05:29 PM
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It's a post I copied, typos and no paragraphs and all. I don't like to change what other people have written. I changed it.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 04:43 PM
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The key word is "control". It very hard to deny your sex drive. It is much easier to channel you energies into something productive like work or working out and pay for company with the extra money you make.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 04:40 PM
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My 2 ex-wives loved spending money but I never went into debt for it. I earn north of 200K, house paid for, car paid for and have 23K in credit card debt due to starting a business this year. Expected earnings, north of 8K a month. I haven't paid for a date in 2 years. I pay for company though, 300-500 an hour once a month or less.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 03:46 PM
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It seems the ladies at Salon are up in arms over Sex/Life. They, of course, complain about the husband. They label him a "nice guy" and do on to stab and mutilate that straw man and several times compare nice guys to incels, which makes no sense at all. They complain he's in finance and especially that his company is working on a cure for some cancers??? You can't please them. Don't try. They appear to be angry at men that like to have sex with women in general. https://www.salon.com/2021/06/27/…
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 03:00 PM
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The women of the village didn't like because he was old at 50, the article indicates. He was also said to "not know how to raise children". I thought women raised children? I guess in Vietnam men are thought to be important to child rearing.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 02:34 PM
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It's hot girls that have been hurt the worst by feminism, I feel sorry for them...wait...no I don't hot girls will always find a man to support them.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 01:25 PM
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It's hard to predict the future. So much changes. I'm living my best life now.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 01:02 PM
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Thanks for posting. I shared this with my son who is in college. He probably won't watch it though, he's a feminist...for now...lol.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 12:41 PM
3

If by safe you mean I play to win...yes I do. Every time. Loosing means going to jail these days.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:53 AM
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Why in an overpopulated world would leaders want to convince people to procreate. They need workers to support the elderly boomers and bodies for armies. These are not good reasons to have children. Female nature is what it is. Laws won't change it. Feminists scream for men to change, they don't introspect and have no need to change when they can change society to fit their needs.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:52 AM
1

What we said is very similar to what women say. They just never thought their weapons, developed by feminists like me-too-isms would be used against them. They have no defense. To me it all boils down to leaving. The one that leaves first wins. It's as simple as that. Try not to get too attached, the woman you love has been trained to ignore feelings and leave if she doesn't get what she wants. All you need to do is turn it around...the same thing. Always be ready to bail. Have a few months rent…
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:48 AM
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Go to college. I know you have to immerse your self in the feminist matrix but be strong. You can earn well with a college degree but trades are almost as good financially. Better in many ways socially. You deal with less feminists. Feminists are not trying to get into HVAC or electrical work...yet.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:30 AM
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I don't understand the poll. I don't want to fight the system. The system is irrelevant. I've been outside the system for over ten years and the water is fine.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:26 AM
1

Don't screw with the lesbians. Feminists have let lesbians become the feminist leaders. They are our new overlords. If they say their marriages last as long as heterosexual marriages it must be true...lol.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:23 AM
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Your "housemate" is breaking down your door and you feel attacked. Good, at least you are aware of your emotions. Now to interpret them. You feel attacked because you're being physically attacked. You're being assaulted. This happened to me at work I sued and won a lot of money. You're being physically abused by a women. What do you do? Same as they teach women to do. Leave. If you don't it's your fault. You claim she's only a housemate. Not to her. To her, you're her boyfriend except you don't …
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:20 AM
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There is nothing as dangerous as a love spurned woman. She will call the cops eventually. Attacking your door is physical violence. How do you justify living with a person who has already physically assaulted you. The above poster is right. You deserve what you get. I did it once, I don't regret it. I almost ended up in prison when she called and three cop cars arrived. Make sure you carry your ID at home so when they show up you can give it to them to run your priors. Also, when she calls go an…
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:14 AM
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Nice discussion. One way to think about it is that the sex chromosomes X and Y account for 1/23 of the human genome. So there is inherently an about 5% difference in the genetics of men and women. That's a large difference evolutionarily and is of the same order of magnitude as the difference genetically between us and chimps, our nearest evolutionary relatives.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 10:04 AM
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Looks delicious. And you don't have to share it...if you don't want to. Congratulations, you're a free man.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 09:54 AM
1

I was going to put a trigger warning but I'm not a feminist. I figure guys who haven't been through it could use the exposure in case they thought we were making this up.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 09:43 AM
2

Yes I agree. Social Science suffers from working with questionnaires, very subjective, and activist research. Jordan Peterson says that the majority of social science research isn't even read one time and, of course, never cited. I will read two or three social science papers before I start to consider any theory they have.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 01:50 AM
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In taking a deep dive into statistics recently it appear's scientists don't know anything. They just have opinions (I stole that from an article). Some scientists think it's genetic, some environmental. I am mostly interested in the genetic component because we only recently have to the tools to really find out and the prevailing idea it's all learned leads to political manipulation of the public.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 01:36 AM
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Well this women certainly thinks that Peterson is correct. The group holding down the skirts of women that try and get ahead. I worked in a medical environment during the transition from 75% male to 50% male. I actively worked to get women into more chairman positions and lobbied for my direct supervisor to be the chairman of my department. I found the leader women to be just as big an assholes as the men that came before them. In medicine we don't make nice, we get the job done, male of female.…
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 01:03 AM
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It's no fault divorce so cheating doesn't matter. He should dump her out of self respect and find someone who honesty likes him. And the number is half. When you divorce you each get half of what you earn while married. Buy a house before you marry and get a prenup. Then you risk half. Be ready to walk. If you're not ready to walk, you're not ready.
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 12:13 AM
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I believe there may be differences between men and women inherently. There is a real difference in terms of X and Y chromosome but things like behavior are multifactorial. With many variables. We just don't know. Even differences in IQ appear to be more related to size than being a sex trait. Sex drive appears different in my experience despite be being raised on the idea that men and women had equal levels of desire. Men definitely have a higher sex drive. So I'm sure this little savage has a s…
/r/MGTOW228/06/21 12:08 AM
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That's what I was thinking. Do shepherds learn feck their sheep? But then he says all the animals ran away from him. But the trees were fair game, I suppose. I'm sure he learned how it works with lessons from rosey.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:00 PM
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Could you imagine a man watching this film and then hearing that mgtow'ers are out there attacking women saying they like bad boys and feel no desire for their ever loving husbands? And what about the 90% of men that are good providers sitting on their couch while their wife watches this and thinks about her bad boy ex. It's like a recruiting video for mgtow.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 10:34 PM
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The wiring of the brain is just starting to be elucidated using functional MRI scans where they see the active circuits fire while the request you think certain thoughts. Causation is a very tricky thing to prove. In my research there is a strong correlation of 24% of gene rs4950 with leadership as evidenced by leadership positions in a twin study is a very strong correlation statistically. It is fascinating and I'm keeping up with the literature. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pi…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 09:37 PM
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It's not opposites, it's that women, unlike most men, mix their emotional speech with their logical speech. When talking to a woman she's likely to tell you what you want to hear if she likes you or what you hate to hear, even if it's not true, if she doesn't. Nothing is wrong can mean, I'm saving it for later or can mean she's upset about something she doesn't want to talk to you about. Some women want you to somehow magically know what they mean despite them saying the opposite. I'm sure men d…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 09:27 PM
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The social scientist say it's all socialization but their research isn't reproducible. I'm a hard scientist and have wondered how much is genetic. Leadership is a gene and they've found it. It explains a large percent of why some become leaders and other do not. This case really leads toward thinking it's all learned behavior. It's interesting but ultimately irrelevant. We have to deal with our problems as they come and we are who we are be in environmentally derived or from genetics.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 08:59 PM
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My mother is turning 90 this week and really loves me a lot. I'm her primary caretaker. My sister also has a very close relationship with me. My mother still has the sexist idea my sister should be her primary but my sister has new grandkids and is very busy. Everyone knows how I feel and after the way the men in my family have been treated over the past 40 years since the rise of feminism, they think I'm entirely justified in how I feel. But thanks for playing.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 08:54 PM
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Now you're putting words in my mouth. Please don't do that. Things are complicated. I don't dislike women, good deflection, but I do care that men hear the truth. Leaving is the main solution it seems.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 08:25 PM
1

Don't make is sound like you're such a good woman that you let him have half. The law is you each get half. It's no fault divorce now. Cheating is irrelevant. You mean you didn't abuse the system and lie to get more than you deserve. Good for you. You get a gold star. I use the Pitt/Jolie divorce because it's in the papers and everyone has read about it. My ex, my brothers ex, and all my friends, four guys, and all the men I've helped in 20 years of being involved with the MRA and MGTOW communit…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 08:03 PM
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The article suggests that our social ideas are mainly learned. Even the desire to procreate. This is a one off but raises some interesting ideas.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 07:06 PM
1

I think this talk of unconditional love was never true. And talk is that Stephen Hawkings was abused by his lovers. Take a quick read. It was very complicated and that's my point. It's all very complicated. Your incorrect to think women don't love men. They do but it comes with strings as all real relationships do and when things get really bad they leave. Just like men should learn to do. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8698199/Stephen-Hawkings-second-wife-Elaine-raged-guests-slave.htm…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 07:00 PM
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Going celibate is a great experience and all men should try it. Set a time period and stick to it. Learning to ignore your feelings of horny-ness and loneliness is good practice for dealing with women in relationships. Then, if a relationship doesn't work out you can leave knowing you have the skills to not get upset too much and not get depressed. Being upset seeing someone move on from you can be a form of jealousy. Root out those feelings. You don't own someone because you were in a relations…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 06:45 PM
1

It's not the women, they are just doing what they're told to do by culture, through magazines and their friends/relatives and by law. It is possible to have a good co-parenting relationship if it's in the mothers best interest. The minute that ceases to be the case, in my case my ex re-married a multi-millionaire who required her to relocate to a different state, they will stop cooperating and do what's best for them. Like we all do. In my case we were not co-parenting at first. She wanted to ne…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 05:19 PM
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I don't want to dominate anything or anyone. It's way too much work. Yes you can live without a relationship and children are not what we need in our overpopulated world. Learn your lesson. Try not to repeat it, but if you do, learn again until it becomes clear that it doesn't pay to play games with girls.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 04:43 PM
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Men who their wives divorce in Britain have about a 50% chance of rarely or never seeing their children five years after the split. If you want to have children and be in their lives, either prepare for trying to obtain 50/50 custody after divorce or find a surrogate. I tried the 50/50, made sure my wife agreed before we got married and got to experience her taking our child from the house he was born and raised in and drove eight hours away as her way of telling me she's leaving. Clearly me war…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 04:36 PM
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Single parenthood is the defacto choice of progressive women these days. It's hard to blame men for wanting to share in the benefits. It's not ideal but my ideal marriage saw my son from a broken family at age 9months. What's the difference if I had him by a surrogate. Surrogacy is legal in Florida, California and Texas one source said. Other states can vary by county. And surrogacy is 5 times what it was from 1999 to 2013. According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) the number of gestati…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 04:31 PM
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Fascinating. From a quick read it seems that to this one person interviewed, women as a political party, which it very much is to our up and coming social warriors, use their social power to hold back their sisters. So feminism is hurting women when applied to themselves. And men are occasional but not systematic problems. And men who do not care to assimilate at work, like those with Aspergers, do fine because they don't care. So, the conclusion is to not care what women at work think at work. …
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 04:22 PM
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I said it's funny and I'm not offended. It's my goal to raise the level of discourse here, that is all.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 01:52 PM
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As far as pregnancy protection goes your absolutely right. I don't have sex with women not on the pill and also have a vasectomy. From Google: If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they're 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren't perfect, so in real life condoms are about 85% effective — that means about 15 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 01:48 PM
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Don't let her adopt the kid. That's pretty basic. And don't let them call her mom. Very important.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 12:46 PM
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Do you have a link? I tried looking but couldn't find the articles you're referencing. Is the idea that men compete constructively while women destructively your theory or something from the articles. I've worked with men and women in a high level academic environment for over 20 years and men and women were roughly the same in their styles of competition. I was an academic leader and so saw many cases of conflict between men and women at work. In thinking about it, I can't generalize as constru…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 12:22 PM
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If you want to learn about mgtow there are many youtube video's available, just do a search. Also listen to the other side, what the feminists have to say. Then follow your best interest. MGTOW teaches doing what's best for you. Deciding what's best for you is your job and it's not easy.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:28 AM
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Yes, sacrifice your relationship to get ahead if that's what you mean. Always keep an eye on what's best for you, in or out of relationships with women.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:24 AM
3

And marriage rates in the US are lower than at any time on record. Half the lowest point on record during the great depression of 1929. I can't help but hope that the rise of mgtow contributed to this momentous development of engaging their brain and growing a spine for men in the US.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:22 AM
1

Please explain. So you don't share all the wealth gained during a marriage 50/50 upon divorce? How is community property handled differently in India?
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:19 AM
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It's funny...it looks like a vagina!..now that's some third grade humor right there. Is that what we aspire to in the mgtow philosophy? Reducing women down to a body part. Let the feminists reduce men to walking penises. Let's keep out minds out of the gutter. https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-judith-bernsteins-penis-paintings-stick-man
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 11:15 AM
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On the positive side, a man just has to decide his happiness is the most important things in his life. He enjoys making others happy too, but only after he get's paid first. The same way women operate today. Then life is the yellow brick road before him. Most of us here live in first world countries with enough riches to go around. Work hard for yourself and you can retire early to a life of fun and peace.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 10:45 AM
1

Let the goal of developing self respect be your guide. Would you respect yourself if you laid down like a dog and called some woman six times in an evening? Take someone you just met away for a weekend? Or like me, carry refrigerator/freezer up three flights of stairs for a girl and hurt my back permanently? Dumb shit right there. Just don't. That's simping. But I don't aspire to be monk. I still desire self respect.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 10:40 AM
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Do you mean a woman who is not the mother? In that case, in the US, you have nothing to worry about. A non-biological housemate or spouse has no custody rights. A man might have to pay child support if he holds himself out to be dad and a woman may fight for visitation if you allow her to hold herself out as mom but not visitation. Don't live in fear. You'll never be totally safe. If you try you'll never do anything. IMO surrogacy is the safest way to go for men. Just don't let some woman someda…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 10:30 AM
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This is a person who is making it known that she feels you are lesser than her. Cease all contact with her. Anything you do or say at that point will likely get you fired. Learn your lesson and avoid this person. Pretend you didn't hear their blatant hatred of you for your birth defect of having an outy instead of an iny.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 10:25 AM
2

Let me explain. An anecdote that describes the topic of the OP and shows that this topic may indeed be true doesn't need a balanced view of the subject of the story every single time. Like, we don't say that Fauci is a good scientist then always counter that with, but he got a C in Calculus in college. Or is that mansplaining...lol.
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 10:19 AM
1

From reading some feminist posts I notice feminists agree there are clear cut differences between men and women. The 1/23 difference or about 5% in genetic code due to the Y chromosome is significant. We know very little about the wiring of the brain. We're learning. Probably haven't found the right genes/pathways to differentiate the male and female brain. It is possible they are the same and the difference we see is due to environment. Watching my 8 year old niece, 5 year old nephew and 3 year…
/r/MGTOW227/06/21 01:33 AM
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Stress free and happy...that says it all.
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 12:34 PM
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They invented the idea we live in a patriarchy only to copy their own idea and attempt to make a matriarchy. Run by lesbians. It' all just penis envy. Stay proud guys. Just be yourself as that is what most women are trying desperately to emulate while telling you how bad you are for possessing a penis.
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 12:27 PM
2

They just can't stand that we have a place to talk and compare notes. It drives them crazy. For some reason, I get a feed from r/feminism and saw a thread on how to get your son not to be redpilled/mgtow/incel. The best answer that wasn't an authoritarian, punish him for having bad thoughts against women, was to treat your son like a human as feminism does not. It was carefully worded but upvoted a few times. Women will never reciprocate. It's not in their social programming.
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 11:16 AM
2

Which is a false dichotomy and shows a weakness in the incel/player shaming tactic you're using. Once my son was born, all I cared about was him. Even the alpha, beta, gamma model is very limited in it's applicability. Men are people and have humanity. We are all complex, hence your approach to simplify falls short. Post this on r/feminism as they buy into this type of attack on men.
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 11:09 AM
1

That's one of the beautiful things about going your own way. Use your personal experience and the experience of others here to make your own decisions. Don't let some dude on the internet tell you how to live.
/r/MGTOW226/06/21 10:59 AM
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The plantation is in your head. Many leave the plantation but hold onto to it in their minds. It's like they never left. Let go of your fear. The plantation is a metaphor only. It applies to many things that take away your freedom. Can marriage be like that, sure. Does it have to be like that? Not at all. Ask me questions if you have any/
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 05:35 PM
2

Or she just doesn't want to engage with you. This proves nothing. Anecdotal evidence at best. Many people don't want to engage, find someone at your level in terms of intelligence and interest to talk to.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 05:19 PM
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Here you go: From 2014 but the trends are continuing. In the linked reference there is a nice chart showing mother only custody fell from about 78% in 1988 to about 42% in 2008 of custody cases in Minnesota. Shared custody rose from 7% to about 43% of custody cases. Father only custody didn't change much. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13524-014-0307-8 This article reexamines the living arrangements of children following their parents’ divorce, using Wisconsin Court Records, updating…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 05:15 PM
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I had a woman manager for 25 years. She had my back, I had her back. Men I worked with tried to screw me over. So, no, I don't agree. Female managers are just people. I agree that these days there is a girl power movement but on a case by case basis women are the same as men.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 04:25 PM
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He's right that custody is moving in the right direction but I would say that men need more choices and marriage is a choice that, like not marrying has downsides and upsides. I've been married twice and the second time was a mistake. The first was too, but I didn't know any better. I would have been much more happy over the years had I not married the second time. I thought I'd learned how to survive marriage after my first divorce. I did not.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 04:22 PM
2

No rules, just choices and consequences. Go your own way.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 02:05 PM
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It's just a decision you make in your head. You have complete control. Ask specific questions on how to and we'll answer them. After you've been to family court you realize all the validation you've been getting has been to validate you support that status quo. Once you realize this doesn't work in your favor, it's easy to leave this sort of validation behind.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 11:28 AM
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Prenuptial agreements may limit the parties' property and spousal support rights, but also to guarantee either party the right to seek or receive spousal support up to a certain limit. It may be impossible to set aside a properly drafted and executed prenup. A prenup can dictate not only what happens if the parties divorce, but also what happens when they die. They can act as a contract to make a will and/or eliminate all of one's rights to property, probate homestead, probate allowance, right t…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 11:22 AM
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From Wikiwand: Prenups are enforceable and there has been an increase in those seeking prenups of time. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Prenuptial_agreement In the United States, prenuptial agreements are recognized in all fifty states and the District of Columbia, and they are enforceable if prepared in accordance with state and federal law *requirements. It has been reported that the demand for prenuptial agreements in the United States has increased in recent years, particularly among millennial …
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 11:22 AM
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IMO opinion there is nothing in the mgtow philosophy that precludes marriage. I would marry again with the right woman. I would get a prenup as I now have assets I don't desire to share.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:47 AM
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Speak for yourself. Even 9 years ago mgtow had levels and there was no cardinality. Men can do what they please as they make their own lives. I've never desired to cut everyone out of my life and am very happy I didn't. There is subtle pressure here to go "monk". There shouldn't be. Individualism requires supporting the individual decisions of men and women.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:46 AM
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In custody cases women ask for everything. He got a raise and, by law, his child is entitled to increased child support. That sounds fair to me. Women work as much as men do. Now, when she get's a job he should be able to have his child support decreased. I bet that never happens but it should, and given that desire of women to be independent, this will likely change over time, a long time, in my experience.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:36 AM
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A really bad post. I'm posting on this thread just to agree with the others here and say that is a pretty lame attempt to stir the pot. It is instructive on one level though. See that women can be just as shy and nervous about dating as men here say they are. It cuts across the sexes. Don't feel bad if you're anxious about dating.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:30 AM
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Thanks for sharing. I forwarded that to my niece, who's son is six months old. She has expressed concern for him growing up in this environment. I told her now that she has a son she's going to have to become aware of sexual politics affecting men and boys.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:26 AM
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I've been a confirmed bachelor for over ten years and I've never been shamed. Because I'm interested in sexual politics I got called a woman hater, but not anymore. In the last ten years my friends and family have become aware. Now they say, "that's one valid opinion".
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:16 AM
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When my son turned 21, three years ago, I took him to northern Europe for a month and we backpacked all around. We went to Amsterdam, Ghent, Brussels, Oslo, Bergen, Tromslo, back to Oslo, then on to Prague. I've been to Thailand and am going back as soon as it opens. If you want a vacation and a girlfriend, Thailand is a good spot for that.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 10:06 AM
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I, like you, obtained full custody of my son at age 9 months when his mom left us. Then, at age 3 she petitioned and I granted her 50/50. One word of advice. Try to calm down the tensions. You won, that's it. The temporary ruling will likely become permanent. Time to be generous. Show your daughter that your the reasonable one. Not to be nice but because your break up will hurt your daughter the most. She will like the parent that denigrates the other the least. Be the good guy in her eyes. Don'…
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 09:56 AM
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Now days there are as many women at the bottom as men. Then there is a large group of men in middle management. Feminists have targeted this number for political action. I'm not against them doing it without legislation. It's none of my business.
/r/MGTOW225/06/21 12:05 AM
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I have to agree. In my opinion it was disgruntled MRAs who joined mgtow in the early days and pushed an anti-feminist agenda to the growth of a new philosophy or way of living. Most the slogans. Mgtow doesn't need slogans and doesn't recruit. It does teach though. It hasn't been a good idea to marry after feminists gained power but it also wasn't a good idea before feminists gained power. I would rather live now and risk half my shit than have to pay alimony for the rest of my life to a woman th…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:59 PM
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Maybe not selecting complete freedom as our benchmark, we should select level of hierarchy that suites us as individuals. I was very involved and and for times completely uninvolved in hierarchies at school and work. In my case it is dependent on my age. I did well in both social situations. Now I choose to only get involved in my family hierarchy. The matriarch turns 90 in ten days.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:44 PM
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I agree. It's tough. My niece is an attorney and her husband is an attorney. She just had a son six months ago. We all are encouraging her to stay home for a while. She did law for about three years and didn't like it. She's going into teaching for now. Maybe back to law later. She likes the money but she says she doesn't like law anymore. Feminism promises women options and my niece has options. It must have sucked to have to stay home because you couldn't work and didn't have an education. Mos…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:28 PM
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Then you learned. It good that you're exploring for yourself. Experience is the best teacher.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:24 PM
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I once did an experiment and dated a woman who on her online profile had a picture of her in a pink hat for the million woman march. I tried to date her anyway. I didn't hold it against her. I was very polite and avoided politics but I didn't just agree with her just to be nice. Then I couldn't help myself and brought up that I had learned in school that women use health care much more than men and how the movement to have women pay the same as men was against usual insurance company policy of c…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:05 PM
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That's bullshit. Women used to play less sports than men until title IX was enacted. Now women enjoy sports very much and men's sports have not significantly suffered. My worse fear is that this is an attempt to show a woman being injured for the entertainment of other men here. That is obscene IMO. I once posted a video clip of a female boxer challenging a male boxer from the old mgtow reddit to a different mgtow site. That also didn't go well for the female. The male mgtow'ers loved it. That w…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 08:09 PM
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You could wear condoms which are highly effective in preventing transmission of STDs. I was looking this up the other day and the vast majority of STDs occur in 16-24 year olds. They are probably not using condoms regularly, I imagine. I'm fairly promiscuous and haven't had an STD in 35 years. I use mainly sex workers so the risk is there. IMO life is to be enjoyed. And sex is a very enjoyable past time. I'm clearly a sex positive mgtow'er. Always wear a condom. Look before you leap. That means …
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 07:52 PM
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She is selling hot dogs, you're encouraging men to avoid them. There really is nothing to talk about between you. Isn't there an r/egalitarian or something that encourages different sides to interact reasonably? That's where I would go if I were you. Going to a hot dog stand and trying to convince the owner that veganism is better is a waste of time, IMO.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 06:50 PM
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If it's happening in both men and women, why don't you just call them wicked spirits? Both men and women can be wicked, your right, deal with it. Learn to be choosy about who you spend your time and energy on.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 05:08 PM
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Forget all that dominance/submissive shit. Women want money in a man. You can earn just like a tall guy. And your lack of, let's say, endowment, should not be a problem for you. If you can achieve orgasm that's great. Many women can't climax with any size penis and use oral and vibrators as their main means of orgasming. Buy a vibrator and introduce it into your love making. Then follow the other guys that posted here and move ahead with your life and pay no attention to those who try to drag yo…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 05:05 PM
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Entertaining parables with some truth in there. But the Jerry's life may not be so rosy. A women 23 years younger is likely to find a young lover eventually. Look at Bill Gates, even with billions wives often leave. Had Barry stuck it out he would have found that even with the child support and alimony payments he could find happiness. Happiness comes from inside, IMO. With just a little money men can be happy. No matter how bad your circumstances, suicide is rarely the best choice. But I say, g…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 04:40 PM
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"Hybristophilia is a sexual interest in and attraction to those who commit crimes, a paraphilia in which sexual arousal, facilitation, and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed a crime." Tell that to all the men who follow incarcerated females. Men like criminal women just the same as women do. Chicks with guns is a very popular genre. And how many men help their partner murder their husband? We at mgtow read about that all the ti…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 04:26 PM
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You're right, it is much easier said than done. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Feminists say men are ruled by testosterone. I think men rising above their biological programming has been the reason philosophy arose in the first place. MGTOW is a philosophy and can help men control themselves if channeled correctly. I also use sublimation as a technique.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 02:50 PM
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I agree. It's women activists that are pushing this abuse scenario. If you accept feminist activists definition, everything is abuse. I just leave when I feel I'm being misused or "abused". And I don't read propaganda meant to upset me. That is, by their definition, abuse.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 02:47 PM
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My mental health and blood pressure are too valuable to spend time tilting at windmills. Channel your energies into productive things.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:45 PM
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You sound more depressed than anything. This is very important as it will skew your impressions of you appearance. You are not bad looking or she wouldn't have gone out with you. She's telling you lies to get rid of you. Learn about relationships here before getting into another one. Don't trust what an ex says as she may be bitter and not about you, about something else all together. Learn about personal responsibility. Take control of your life. Work out and lift weights as that will improve y…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:43 PM
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IMO feminism is a labor union for females. Like any union. they are always looking for more. The expression "what have you done for me lately" comes to mind. Men are just the same. Find me a union that wouldn't like a raise every year? That complains about the shiftlessness of it's members at work? You won't find one. But, like regular labor unions, if you push too hard the boss will find workers elsewhere. Make the business fail by taking too much and everyone loses their jobs. Men should find …
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:35 PM
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Why do you read what women write about dating? It's all biased and driven by personal problems and a desire to change people, men included, in such a way to garner the writer more success. Like women who say men are pedo's for dating younger women. Sour grapes is a vey old expression. Just avoid these forums. It costs nothing.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:29 PM
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Have you read what Vice says about MGTOW. Lies, damned lies and statistics. It's a for profit click bait driven business at Vice. You can find social science statistics to support any position. Always look at the attestations first. Do a meta-study of tens of such papers purporting the true. statistic. Anything porn related is going to be super biased. Believe nothing especially about women and men. Very controversial with a lot of social justice warriors willing to mislead or lie to win their p…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:26 PM
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Most PALT. Men are not saints and it's silly to project that they are better than women and don't take advantage of situations in which they uniquely benefit.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:30 AM
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Anything in health care. They always have openings. It's hard to get fired. They need clerks and tradesman as much as they need doctors and nurses. Many of these jobs are union jobs and give great benefits and retirement plans.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:29 AM
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I agree. I was raised in a family who owned apartment buildings and trailer parks. If you plan on going into something in the housing field knowing how to do the work himself will pay off big time. At the very least the contractors will have a harder time overpricing their work.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:26 AM
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MGTOW is a reaction to the rise of feminism. Men at first joined feminism as most people support some form of equality of the sexes. Then feminist made it clear that while they support equality in feminine spheres like child custody for men, they were only interested in fighting for women. Then men organized as men's rights advocates. After a couple of decades MRA's had little to show for their efforts. Some men decided to opt out. Many MRA's joined them. These MRA's still fought the gender war …
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 11:10 AM
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That's why we have legs. Arguing in general is not worth your breath. If you don't like your situation state your problems. If they are argued with or not addressed leave. The problem with men is they didn't get the memo. If your not happy in your relationship leave. If you don't you'll be thrown out. If you get involved in a relationship with a man or woman in todays world you should already have an exit plan. Money on the side and a place to go on a moment notice.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 10:57 AM
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Why do you guys pay attention to posts like this that are obviously political muck raking? And how can you conclude anything from political Ads? Other than people listen to stupid Ads? Women don't feel like they've all been abused. Abuse is something used to gain power in a social situation. Men and women both use it. I used it and gained a large financial payout. It's one of the tools in todays armamentarium. Learn it, avoid it, and use it when necessary. Yelling about it will only make your vo…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 10:54 AM
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I don't use the word gender. It was invented to gain political advantage. Neither sex has a monopoly on liking violence and neither sex is kinder or gentler than the other. And Vice magazine is a rag I wouldn't wipe my ass with. I certainly wouldn't be relying on such click bait for understanding sexual dynamics.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 10:48 AM
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When provided with equal pay and equal opportunity woman and men are free to behave as they please. I don't judge. I also don't want to be judged. This is one solution to the wage gap I endorse.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 10:44 AM
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This is the main scam of feminism. Women gain more power in relationships than they need or desire because all people want more...always. Ask a kid if they want one or two toys. They will always pick two. Then the unbalanced relationships don't work out, further leading to the women to turn to feminism to get them money out of the failed relationships. This will not stop, it's been percolating within activists for at least 200 years. In some parts of the world like India, at lot less, but the ac…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 10:38 AM
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Let some people fight for fat acceptance, smart people know that being overweight is very unhealthy and statistically associated with poor health outcomes in the long run. On the other hand, life is short. I have maybe 20 years left and I plan to enjoy them. Pass the pasta...lol. Obesity very much affects both sexes. "Almost 3 in 4 men (73.7 percent) were considered to be overweight or have obesity; and about 2 in 3 women (66.9) were considered to be overweight or have obesity."
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 10:29 AM
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You can but my my relative is turning 90 and has many other redeeming qualities. I'm staying and putting up with it out of love. :But each man gets to make their own choices.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 10:24 AM
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I live on a beautiful lake. I also like reading.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 03:14 AM
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If you hook your usb to a computer and get what's called a digital audio workstation, DAW, you can play the whole band on your compositions. Apples Garage Band is said to be free and one of the easiest to learn.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 02:10 AM
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In this environment is it really worth having kids and risk having them believe you molested them to please their lying mother? How about if you are going through a divorce? Is it really worth fighting your soon to be ex for visitation when it could land you in prison for years? I went through this and I love my son and won in court. But, in hindsight, I have to admit I would not have married or had a child if I had known the risks. Sitting in criminal court not knowing if I'd be hauled to a cel…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 01:15 AM
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You are correct but it should be pointed out that the ones tested are usually contested custody cases in which someone suspects infidelity. The true rate is unknown, but I imagine it's pretty high. I kept a close eye on my ex during the time of conceiving my son. Better safe than sorry.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 01:06 AM
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I did the same thing, but on purpose. I wanted to have fun in high school so blew off my school work. I received an 85 average but could have done much better. When all my friends got into ivy league colleges I went to a state school. But then at 20 I got serious. I studied like crazy in college and it paid off. I was able to attend medical school and my life was set financially. At 50, with the help of mgtow philosophy, I was able to retire. Putting in the work to build a great career is the be…
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:58 AM
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I have a close relative like this. Since I can't dump them, I call them out every single time they do that to anyone in my presence. Or I just walk out. I can't take it now that I'm getting older. It's a form of emotional abuse, IMO.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:50 AM
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Still, like a girl who abuses you and you have to leave, I give men the same treatment. He's a douche and maybe one day he'll learn. I wouldn't be around to find out. I know two people like this, one a man and one a woman. I avoid both of them.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:46 AM
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We all have our problems. Don't give up. Perseverance is one of the keys to success. You'll get there. We're here to help.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:41 AM
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Struggling is the food of life. Now you see how your struggles have paid off. Keep it up. Become a lifelong learner. It will pay off down the road.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:40 AM
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It's a beauty, congratulations. Music has been my haven for all my life. Try YouTube for lessons. There are many and they are free.
/r/MGTOW224/06/21 12:39 AM
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I disagree. I think the political arm of mgtow was a big mistake and has lead to the demonization of mgtow. Let the MRA's tend to politics. It's a no win game. I've been doing it for 20 years and have experience as my guide.
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 03:51 PM
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It took me ten years of being distraught, then a year away from mgtow because helping others brought up my pain all the time. In summary: it took time. Try to be positive, life has a lot to offer. In some ways emotional pain is like physical pain. With physical pain, ignoring the pain and carrying on is just as effective as opiates. I also have a chronic back problem. I learned to ignore it because I would be dead of opiates by now if I had not. Don't get me wrong. I tried everything for the pai…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 02:05 PM
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So, without the cursing, you're no longer going to live by other peoples expectations? Great. We're all just bricks in the wall in our overpopulated world. No one will love you for you but you. Eat well, work out, follow your dreams and stop caring about what other people think. That is the essence of going your own way. You sound pretty angry. It's a natural but harmful emotion to you personally. Try to avoid it as going your own way means not having to deal with others so anger serves no purpo…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 12:43 PM
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Congratulations. 70K is a great starting salary similar to what engineers in other fields of engineering make as a starting salary. You could be headed toward 100k in brief order. Save some of that money, stay living with your parents and move out when you can afford the downpayment on a house. That's your castle and will be your savings when you get older. Also, it helps to own prior to a serious relationship these days.
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 12:36 PM
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Those stats are real and have been stable for decades. Don't ever take your relationships for granted and always, always have an exit strategy. People divorced before have a much better outcome the second time. Learn from men like me, divorced twice. I did very well the second time because I came on sites like this and asked for help.
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:35 AM
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No need for your validation here. Men are just like women. Once you open yourself up to the need for validation people may take advantage of you in order to "grant" you membership in their group. I started posting daily on mgtow forums in 2012 and was there when mgtow turned nasty. It was a political move mainly brought on by MRA's who latched onto the mgtow movement as being the hard edge of men's rights. It is not. It is not anti-feminism either. What was lost over the years was what it was. A…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:31 AM
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My son is 24 and I just started to talk to him about mgtow, he had his first big break up this week. Glad to hear you're becoming realistic about relationships. That's great you got an electric piano. I have one and I'm into music production. Writing songs and recording them. It is a lucrative field that you can do in your spare time. Many end up doing it professionally. You don't earn that much, average salary about 50K, like a carpenter. But it's fun, creative and not back breaking labor. Ther…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:23 AM
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Men and women are the same here. Men have treated just as badly as women over the years. These days both men and women are very careful about relationships. There is no road map any more. Culture is malleable and there are those out to remake it.
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:18 AM
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You would do well to be careful here. She has made her feelings known and society encourages her to think of that child as hers. She may stop or she may lay in wait for you to make an error and end up with the social workers or your son has a fight with you and asks about his mother. He will know that surrogacy is an unusual way for him to be conceived. Your son will be not unlike a woman in your life. Looking for what he can get away with and giving nothing back in the relationship. Don't apply…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:17 AM
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Children dream of unconditional love. Humans are animals and respond to positive, pleasure, and negative, pain, stimuli. Give enough negative stimuli and every person will leave you. Give enough positive stimuli they will likely stay. What is love? It is not unconditional. It is not definable by me. So I don't seek it out. I seek out reciprocal relationships in which I give as much as I take. I have a good relationship with my mother, son, sister and the rest of my family. I have friends, men an…
/r/MGTOW223/06/21 09:07 AM
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So you want this place to go full echo chamber? No one is allowed to disagree? I mean what I say and I'm staying. I have been thinking mgtow needs a correction for many years. Threads like this are cementing my feelings. MGTOW is not an activist movement. It's more of a philosophy. I came from the point of view of an MRA. I was wrong. Anti-feminism has given mgtow a bad name and many men that could benefit are turned off to it. That should change, IMO. Anti-feminism is a political stance. I am o…
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 08:54 PM
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That's 9 of the top 22 posts online right now that talk about women being in some way bad for men and nothing about men being bad...I guess you could surmise from here men are good. If it were a morality sub and men and women were both called out for their immorality (by some scale...I don't believe we have an agreed upon moral compass in relationships), then these posts make sense. The remaining 13 posts appear right on the money in talking in a positive way how moving forward and taking respon…
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 06:56 PM
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I'm encouraging my son to go surrogate. It's great to hear of your good experience. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 06:23 PM
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Over the last year I've focused on getting rid of any rage. I was very bitter. Now I'm doing what I've been dreaming about for years, composing music and I'm having a great time. I would be happy to find the right woman to live with. The problem is I'm old and the women I like are young. But exceptions happen all the time. I'm keepin on keepin on. Just don't put too much effort into relationships. I'm focused on music. If something happens relationship wise, I'm open.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 06:16 PM
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Rage is an emotion. Expressing rage is way of writing. Men good, women bad. That's born of rage. There is good and bad in both groups, men and women. Law's favor women in divorce but customs and culture give many advantages to men. Many of the current laws are the result of past problems in which men were favored (although I can't think of any in divorce law). Currently women receive custody about 90% of the time, but that statistic is misleading. Joint custody is now the default in many states.…
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 06:11 PM
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You need to see a competent therapist. Your problems are so deep that just avoiding women or trying to suppress your natural desire won't help you much. Are you suicidal? Ask yourself that very important question, then seek professional help.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 04:25 PM
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You can't hide from woke culture, it's everywhere. We all must find a way to cope with an ever changing society. I agree with the above posts. If you do choose the armed services, consider the coast guard. My cousin did and he's retired now, age 55, and still working full time for them. He loves it. Take as much educational opportunities as you can. That's the real benefit. Have you considered community college? It's very inexpensive and you could explore different majors until you find somethin…
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 04:13 PM
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I agree. I've been involved with organized mgtow for about 9 years and was an MRA for 12 years before that. I took a break this past year as the mgtow anger at women was starting to get to me. But I really enjoy the company of like minded men and enjoy helping young men with my experiences. I'm getting downvoted a bit but I think that my ability to even say these things here has improved over last year. IMO, women have been more a victim of the programming we are all getting than men. Men have a…
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 04:07 PM
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I looked it up and you are correct. My urologist dissuaded me from taking testosterone supplements about 5 years ago. I guess the science has changed. I'm going to go see a different urologist. Someone younger.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 03:40 PM
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Women don't lack logic and common sense. And manipulation like that is a form of lying. I've many times in my life let women believe things about me to get them into the sack. I no longer do that, but I am older. I sleep much better now. I try really hard not to lie to anyone, if I can avoid it.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 11:44 AM
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I'll bite. I like me my three ways. Dude, she's openly bisexual and likes three ways. What are your questions? You're very young and probably think she is the "one". She is not. You're both way too young for this to last. But she may be the one to open up for fun fantasies for you. Ask her to find a girlfriend to help you have your first three way. Open your mind and have a blast. That's what you should do at age 20.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 11:09 AM
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People, men and women, mainly want bread and circuses. Women like having complete control of their lives. I don't think they will ever realize the gravity of their mistakes. These are not mistakes they are making. This is a well thought out plan. It has been in action for about 70 years, since feminism became the state philosophy in the US in about 1970.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 11:05 AM
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Use a condom then. If you use a condom and let your brain control your hand and never sign anything with a sexual partner you have nothing to fear. You're in control of your own life. MGTOW is about personal responsibility. Take charge of your life and live free to make as little or as much money as pleases you. Not earning because of fear makes you just as whipped as a man who worships women.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:54 AM
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I don't care who invented feminism, any group that get's half of the country to go to work after sitting home for millenia has my support. Best thing that ever happened to men, IMO. It may take a few years for men to realize it but it's a boon for people like our children. My son no longer has to find a career to make a lot of money. Instead he can go into something he enjoys.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:48 AM
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I was married twice. The first one had me in marriage counseling for 5 years. When the second one suggested, or should I say demanded, marriage counseling, I knew it was over. When she left me I immediately filed and received full custody. I was prepared. Marriage counseling is useless and is just another venue for your wife to attack you. It is a major red flag though. Pay attention should your partner ask to attend. Start getting you ducks in a row. The end is likely near.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:43 AM
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And so, after a decade, MGTOW has become close to Taoism, a religion in China that encourages semen retention and stoicism. I'm no fan but can definitely say it's cheaper than dating. Are you on testosterone injections? Isn't that very dangerous in terms of increase risk of prostate cancer?
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:37 AM
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My mom is sexist, born in 1931, and my sister is just starting to question her feminism after ten years of me talking to her about it. My moms sexism manifests itself in that she wants only my sister to care for her. Since my sister has two children that just married, and I'm retired, I am the natural one to care for my ninety year old mom. This really irritates my mom. In some cultures like in India, it is the son who is charged with caring for the elderly parents. Also sexist. After a year my …
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:32 AM
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All I have to say is double the females, double the trouble. One thing that struck me about the article was that the house they are fighting over was purchased fifteen years ago for about 500k and is now worth about 2 million. Buy real estate with the money you save on dating. That's a very important take home lesson.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:19 AM
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I retired ten years ago in part because most of management switched to all female and they made it very clear the writing was on the wall. I never looked back.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 10:03 AM
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Thanks for the idea. My son's girlfriend just broke up with him. He's 24. I offered to take a drive with him cross country from the west to east coasts so we can see each other, it's been 18 months. I'm going to try to rent a Mustang. It would be a gas to drive.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 09:57 AM
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No need to invoke the rare super famous men in history, nearly all men succeed without any help from their spouses or girlfriends. Women and even my son, seriously delayed my research. Fourteen years in custody court was a huge waste of time and resources. Also, I get a sense of "if I'm successful like some famous guy, like Musk, then the girls will want me". They will not. They will want your money. They don't need you once you sign the papers. Girls that will have sex for money are incredibly …
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 09:54 AM
2

I think it's illegal to point out deficiencies in women. If you make a woman feel bad, in some circles, that is the definition of abuse. That's one of the main reasons I retired. It is very difficult to work with people who can't hear the word "no". In short, I was a professional and told a boss no because that was my professional opinion.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 09:42 AM
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If it's prenup or no, in my case, it would definitely be worth the 20K or so it would take to draw up a prenup that would hold for at least a portion of the settlement. Nothing beats having the best lawyer. Not the most expensive, the best. Being prepared this the best way to come out ahead. Studies show men and women who have been through divorce before have much more favorable outcomes in custody cases. That's on of the things older guys bring here.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 10:07 PM
2

My nieces husband to be made her pay off her student loans, masters in architecture, he's and engineer, and he took his savings of four years that she's been helping with the rent and bought a house in his name only. I told her it was a red flag and she should reconsider. Not that she would. But as an uncle I want to be there for her, my brother passed away three years ago. She didn't say anything so everything is good. But I had to say to my family he's a smart man. I always tell them a smart m…
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:55 PM
6

What is there to lose? If you work and save, you may be ready to retire or downsize in ten years. Buy real estate. It will be your retirement. Moving won't bring you peace but a change of place can spur personal growth. Try things new that you were afraid to do when you were younger.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:03 PM
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If you've tried everything, then, you know where the door is...use it. It never as bad as living a shitty life you don't enjoy. I have a saying, whenever times are bad the the sky is falling I think, I could still be married to my first wife, and then, I feel much better. I would rather die than go back to the stale existence. These days no one will judge you. Take care of your children, they'll be the ones who are hurt the worst. But they too will get over it.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 07:48 PM
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That may be true but the MRA's haven't had much luck and I tried to organize MGTOW men for many years with even less luck. I read science and math journals and find that this is where a lot of MGTOW believers are. I think it's spreading but the idea of inaction action is one of the appeals of MGTOW. A ten year reduction of labor by men is already underway. And marriage rates are in the toilet. Half of what they were during the great depression, the worst marriage rates in the last century.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 07:26 PM
4

Some can't help being overweight. It's all very complicated. I wish this young man luck. I encourage him to learn that having children doesn't make you happy and can make you very very sad in about half the cases. Those of divorce for sure but a good percentage of those that stay together don't foster a good relationship with (today's) optional fathers. He seems to have good times and friends from the posted photo's. He should be thankful for what he has.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 06:03 PM
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Your mother is a victim of her programming. Do you know your father? The three times I dates single mothers in my life, two of the boys were so upset they just got up and hit me. No words no warning. Children generally hate the men having sex with their moms. My son moved away from me, he now says, because he didn't like his step father. And he had known him for six years when his mom decided to move and move in with her new husband.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 04:00 PM
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I share here. At least these guys don't use it against me. It's relatively anonymous so, go for it. Your pain can be put to good use informing other men that they are not alone. Working out is one of the best ways to cope, it's healthy, you stay busy and it helps stave off depression.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 02:41 PM
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It sounds like you're starting to live separate lives. I recommend taking a weekend together and getting a sitter. Talk to her, really open up and tell her how you feel. It's not a sign of weakness to talk together. This same kind of thing happened between me and my elderly mom, now 90. We had our issues with each other that festered for ten years. But over the last few months I decided to tell her exactly how I feel. Surprisingly it worked. Now she no longer treats me like a seven year old. She…
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 02:06 PM
1

I treat men and women the same. No one get's special privilege. If I can help, and I'm not put at risk, I do. It's a great satisfaction for me to help others.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 01:49 PM
3

Been there, done that and have the broken heart from missing her kid to show for it. The worst part is getting to know and falling in love with their children.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 01:39 PM
3

One thing you could do is pull a one nighter. If you can afford it, hire someone. I night of good sex with a beautiful girl can reset your personal worth meter.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:46 AM
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For the most part men and women are the same, IMO.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:42 AM
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Think about Utah. I was once skiing in Park City and overheard some girls at the bar talking about how much they enjoy being pregnant and how being a surrogate seemed like a sweet job.
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:39 AM
1

I always am very formal about how I date...because I'm old. Old fashioned. I meet them on Match.com, send three or four texts on there, then a few on phone, then talk on the phone for about an hour and at that time, if things seem copacetic, I set up a date for dinner. Formal, dress up, nice-ish restaurant. Then, text her the next day. You won't be able to tell on the date if they like you. If they want a second date they'll tell you. By the third date, sex, or no fourth date. I screen them by c…
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 09:34 AM
2

Marriage rates are down to half what they were in the great depression, 1929. The lowest marriage rates on record. And dropping like a stone. A testament to our times, both men and women. In this link notice it's the Republican senate that is working to revive marriage. I, however, fear it's condition is terminal. https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2020/4/marriage-rate-blog-test
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 02:14 AM
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I agree, debtors prison is a form of slavery. Early accounts are from the middle ages in Europe. Both men and women were imprisoned for debts and, just like with men today, without the ability to work, their families had to pay their debt or they languished in prison. Interestingly, in ancient Rome, a slave could work outside his masters preview, if the master agreed, and earn money to buy himself/herself out of slavery. A bit more civilized than the middle ages and out time, IMO. From Debtors P…
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 01:38 PM
1

I have a 67 year old female friend I'm helping to start dating. She's very plain but can be nice. No education, very bad job (janitor in a hospital), no savings. In three days about 20 guys have scoped her out, ages 55-68. Two want to have a relationship leading to marriage with her. The saying a woman of any age and appearance can get a man seems true.
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 12:53 PM
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It's frowned upon and illegal in many places. Men like Michael Jackson use surrogates so there is much suspicion. No matter what you do, the world of children is run by women. No matter what you do, when your child get's older they will know that and use it against you. From pre-school, through elementary school, my son was taught by women that he should be raised by a woman. When he decided he wanted to move at 14 to live with his mother, whom I had encouraged to have a relationship with him, h…
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 11:39 AM
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It's pretty extreme. Not that I haven't personally seen such cults. I have. My ex's new husband runs one. And my son was forced by the courts to attend.
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 11:21 AM
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The vast majority of women spend their senior years alone and die alone as men die an average 6-8 years younger than women.
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:53 AM
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Bought the house in LA 30 years ago for 225. It's worth about 850 now. Lost it in the custody case I won. Want to save 850 thousand dollars. Don't get married and don't have children. Want to make money in real estate? Figure out a way to buy that house. In 20 years it will quadruple in value and you'll be a multi-millionaire. Get a second job like I did. I was making about 35K thousand when I bought that house.
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:46 AM
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This is propaganda. You don't actually believe what Tokyo Rose says when fighting against the enemy. Besides, who are my enemies? I only have friends and allies now. My enemies are all vanquished. I've been MGTOW for a long time.
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:43 AM
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I have a sixty seven year old female friend who is divorced and has no assets, no house and lives cleaning floors in a hospital. Hard manual labor. She hates her job and lives in a rented room in a house. She got custody but her instigating nature has turned her daughter against her. Do you think she desires to be nice and find a guy to at least help her in her old age? No. Last night she told me she will never take care of a man as that would make her a slave. She doesn't blame men, she hasn't …
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:39 AM
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Try not to judge men and women by the extreme examples show's like Dr. Phil put before us. There are many sick and crazy men and women forming cults and doing terrible things.
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:28 AM
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I did the experience thing and have a son. But I have a few friends, men and women, that never married and did not have children. I asked them recently, in their 60's, and they said that not only did they not miss never having children, they couldn't have lead the wonderful fulfilling lives they had if they had children. My sister and brother have children about my son's age. My son lives across the country from me and they live nearby. I'm seeing them today on father's day and am upset because,…
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:25 AM
2

I was very tall and thin so took boxing in high school. It didn't make me more masculine but did make me much more confident in social situations. I knew I could defend myself and had to a couple of times. I didn't run anymore.
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:14 AM
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You have a Y chromosome, no? Well then you are as masculine as any other guy. It's in your head. There is nothing wrong with an effeminate nature. Your problem is that you've been taught it's a problem. The solution to your problem is to learn to accept and love yourself. It is a very difficult thing to change human nature. Kind of like pissing in the wind. it will come back at you in ways you can't imagine. So many men here try to change with world. It will not change. The sixties were an aberr…
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:12 AM
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The population explosion is killing the planet. At 7.5 billion people, up from 2 billion in 1960 and headed for 10 billion in 2050, the world needs men to head the call for a greater greater good. If women continue to follow their biologic programming and have more children then it's men that have to put a stop to it. The nature of women makes relationships impossible today as women have become weaponized. I strive to write the most beautiful songs I can and I'm studying chemical reaction mechan…
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 10:04 AM
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I was very bitter for three years after my last court case. I won the case but the cost was huge. I lost my house and eventually my job. I'm over it for the last few years but that was the worst part of the divorce. I was deeply unhappy and depressed. Even if you win in court, the cost is so great that it ruins your life. I thought I could win if I played the game and took care of my son and my relationship. I was wrong. I can't think of a way to safely have children for a man today except surro…
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 09:48 AM
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This is the part about personal responsibility I talk about. MGTOW is in a large part about personal responsibility. If you know the truth yet continue to be weak and succumb to actions society and your family desire for you but you know are bad for you then it is to some degree your fault. And I'm tired of reading the complaints. First time OK, second time bad on you. Marriage is dead, the world is overpopulated and we live in one of the richest times in history. Men have no reason to not pursu…
/r/MGTOW220/06/21 09:36 AM
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Neither men nor women need a partner in life to be happy. And everyone dies alone.
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 12:56 PM
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More proof that the damage to children from divorce lasts into adulthood. Think three times before having children.
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 11:14 AM
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That was great. I worked as a wage slave but had a good pension and savings plan. But investing in real estate is the way to make money. My assets are half in my house and half in my 401K. This is a great MGTOW post. Keep them coming.
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 11:09 AM
3

400.00 per month with company matching another 400 per month, for 25 years, now I have 400K.
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 10:33 AM
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Churchill was bipolar and a heavy drinker. I really like this guy. When he won WWII they voted him out right away. We elected Eisenhower to be president. This is what you get if you volunteer and do a good job. Shit on. Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 10:31 AM
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https://www.rt.com/russia/526959-ukraine-couple-handcuffed-breakup/ Now I don't stay too long at all.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 10:44 PM
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Thinking of MGTOW as anti-feminism, which it's not, there is a part that's that, but not the best part, imo. In the way lesbians have become the standard bearers of the feminist revolution in like manner I thought gay men would become the MRA leaders. The current leaders are soft and old, but not gay. And Marc Angelucci will be missed.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 10:21 PM
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You can hold a grudge if you want to. I held one for three years one time and it almost killed me. Very negative and harmful emotion. But, I couldn't help it. We're all human.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 08:38 PM
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I'm a musician for for about ten years I was so upset with the way things are between the sexes, I couldn't relate to love songs at all. Now I have a more philosophical view and, in the last few months have again been writing love songs. My favorite mgtow love song "She's ain't no lady... she's my wife", by Lyle Lovett famously married to Julia Roberts, briefly.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 07:06 PM
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It's one thing to enjoy irony, it's another to be holding a grudge. He didn't rent to her, he rented to her sister. Holding on to grudges against women is like yelling at the wind. It's a waste of time and breath.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 06:59 PM
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Congratulations! I'm trying to get my son to buy something while he's at college. A job makes you desirable to women, house makes you more so, income property makes you irresistible. That's the downside. Don't let women know, they'll only want you for your money, or, be like me and let them know and dump them as soon as they get too greedy. Be careful here with your ex. You haven't been a landlord for long but it's very difficult to evict a tenant with whom you have a personal relationship. Deal…
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 06:57 PM
3

Congratulations! You learned the truth before you're 40 and don't have an 18 year hangover paying child support to a child you never see that is taught to hate you. Freeze some sperm. It's a long time between 40 and 80 and you want options, even if they're really terrible options. Happy V day...lol.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 06:44 PM
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I don't support them feminists also don't endorse living your life to fight them. I fought them hard for over 20 years. I realize I wasted a lot of time. The feminist juggernaut continues. I switched from being an MRA to being MGTOW about nine years ago. In my experience focusing on helping men cope is more worthwhile than riling men up to push for social change. It will not come, society doesn't see men as victims. MGTOW to a large degree is about personal responsibility. All men need to change…
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 04:07 PM
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I don't support them. I'm away from them. I've gone my own way. It's been so long now that I am no longer interested in fighting feminists. It feels very good.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 03:26 PM
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Women have lobbied and fought for the rights they now receive. That will not stop. Power is addictive. Let them have all they want, it doesn't bother me. I focus on myself and my family. My son and my nephews as all the older generation are gone. If I save them from being ass-raped in family court and being drummed out of their professions because they hit on a girl at work or say the wrong thing, then I'm happy. You can only change yourself. Work on yourself and let the females fight against ea…
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 03:18 PM
2

I've known a few bi-sexual and gay MGTOW'ers. Men who are LGBTQRST might feel uncomfortable on MGTOW sites as some men here are uncomfortable with homo-sexuality. The idea that we are all gay put forward by feminists may be one reason. Eschewing marriage has long been defined as being gay or closet gay. In the case of MGTOW'ers eschewing marriage is a reaction to the changes in law and culture after the feminist revolution of 1968.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 10:00 AM
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I never really had the baby rabies until I lived with a single mom and her six month old daughter for three years. At three and a half I was totally in love with this child. Her mother was ok but I was in love with her child. When she left I felt an emptiness. So I married and had a son. I tried to be smart and did achieve full custody when she inevitably left. But it was a high conflict custody arrangement and ended up damaging my son. Women can't help getting baby rabies perhaps. But men can. …
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 09:53 AM
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The Red Pill, by Casey Jaye is one good reference. It's a documentary and it's on Amazon.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 09:45 AM
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I'm trying to encourage my son to buy a house before he experiments with marriage. Men should own their own home before even considering living together/marriage. It puts you in the drivers seat in a relationship. Unless you are smart enough to learn from others and learn that cohabitation is too great a risk. Going to jail is a distinct possible outcome if you cohabitate in todays environment.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 09:41 AM
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My mother also encouraged me to become a doctor. But then the TV told me that gold diggers liked doctors and after they can not longer work, their wives abandon them. So, when I finally got in, and noticed all the women coming on to me that would have never talked to me when I was a college student all I saw were gold diggers and certain divorce. So I married my college girlfriend out of fear. Of course that also led to divorce. Becoming beta buxx at an early age opened my eyes wide to the way i…
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 09:35 AM
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Those are political activist muck rackers. Pay no attention to them. Most women are going to college and getting jobs. Men should be focusing more on their own education than female hygiene propaganda.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 12:20 AM
0

Like I said, there is evidence for the theory of evolution. Evidence for Intelligent design is hard to find. I'm into data and evidence. I'm sure it's very complicated. I'm like the idea of life coming on asteroids. Full RNA or DNA virus like particles. Seeding the universe. We only discovered organic chemistry 150 years ago and DNA was discovered only 65 years ago. And what about CRISPR inspired artificial evolution? It's already here. A Chinese scientist already did it. He was fired. How many …
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 10:17 PM
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Apologies are hard for everyone. Women are told they are all seeing all their lives by feminism. This must be a difficult burden and must make apologies especially difficult. I don't care. I'm on the pay as you go plan. If there is an apology required that isn't forthcoming, I just move on. This year I made a promise to myself to only apologize when I've done something wrong. It's a good lesson for all men.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 09:27 PM
1

They had it pegged. Some say modern feminism is a rehash of Christianity and that to find a modern Christian all you have to do is go to the woman's studies department at the university. Christianity is about maximizing your chances of going to heaven. I'll let heaven worry about it's self. I'll take care of me in the here and now.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 10:25 AM
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Is that a Zeno of Elea paradox?
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 10:21 AM
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I only care about how many anti-depressants I take. I take no comfort in the suffering of others. I wish guys would realize it make us look small to smirk over the plight of women suckered by the feminist wet dream. Since I've gone my own way, no medication for me. Psych meds are only 50% effective and have many side effects because they are prescribed for years. Think twice about taking them and work out as that is just about as effective in treating depression.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 10:17 AM
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Not always. Suppose you were a slave meant for making more slaves. You might have many children and evolutionarily would be more fit than a free man who never had children. In evolution, only procreation is important, according to the theory of evolution. Freedom, happiness and options are not important. In an overpopulated world, like ours, 7.5 billion people in 2021, 2 billion people in 1960, evolution doesn't need every man to procreate for the human species to continue. Quite the opposite.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 10:10 AM
1

And with resent advances in genetics, DNA/RNA sequencing, there has been an explosion of evidence that all support the theory of evolution. Did you know that 1+1=2 is also just a theory? It's a theory in mathematics called number theory. And 1, +, = and 2 are called mathematical objects. But don't be confused. In math everything is a theory. I took up math recently as a hobby. It's fascinating.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 10:03 AM
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I've been around a long time. MGTOW was originally about personal responsibility as much as personal freedom. It's instructive and cathartic to speak of past experiences, including those with women, as men new here need reassurance their personal experience is generally true. But I know skip all those stories and read about the pleasure men feel with their new found freedom once they play the game on their terms.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 09:57 AM
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I switched from working 60 hr weeks as a health care professional to working 75 hr weeks as a musician. Reason: I love them both. Sometimes your passion can earn a lot of money. That's what I advise my son to do. Young people are aware of MGTOW and he knows I've been involved for many years. I don't use that term and he eats it up. He wants to save the forests. That's a pretty good goal. He also doesn't to add to overpopulation, I encourage him to have at most one child through a surrogate. I to…
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 09:43 AM
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Feminism will create a steady stream of men needing help as they realize they re alone in this world and need to go their own way.
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 10:08 AM
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I know a nurse who says the only men she see's going to to her clinic for medical advice and checkups are married men. Her theory is that their wives send them. Preventative medicine has come a long way. See the doctor and grow old and happy. Let's reverse the death imbalance between the sexes by encouraging men to get more regular check ups and screening tests. It will save you life.
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 10:03 AM
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And the moniker "Monk" I think was invented by guys trying to sound mystical and deep. MGTOW was started by Libertarians who were mainly interested in limited taxes and self ownership. And that includes taking care of yourself and not blaming others for your problems. Blaming women for your problems is very un-MGTOW. But trying to change laws is just understanding the legal system. Changes are made when people speak up. Levels were initially used to teach the gradual lessening of societal traini…
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 02:43 AM
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I'm happy with mine. The risks of chronic pain appear real, and appear to be from 1% to as much as 30% of men who have had a vasectomy. I wasn't aware of this when I got mine. My son is 24 and wants one because he doesn't like condoms and is studying ecology at college and doesn't want children. I advised him to wait until at least 30 to decide. And always, always use condoms. I only briefly considered a reversal, when I was dating a woman in her twenties. One night of living together cured me o…
/r/MGTOW215/06/21 06:02 PM
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Early 60's here, been involved with organized mens rights since my divorce and custody case in 2000 then MGTOW since 2012. I agree with all that was said above. I retained custody of my son thanks to advice from blogs like this, never married again and was able to retire at 50. Two additional pieces of advice: If you want children find a surrogate. Work at a job you love because men don't need much money to be happy. A fulfilling job, one not prone to sexual harassment, meaning women harassing y…
/r/MGTOW215/06/21 05:13 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/medium.com/amp/p/34da26ad16b9 This is why I read Medium Magazine, you can block stupid articles like this and just read the math/programming.
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 02:46 PM
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