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Loneliness looks different to everyone. Some people are lonely because they lack friendships, some are lonely because they lack romantic relationships. We humans require human interaction from all forms to feel content and satisfied in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:27 PM
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I'm sure they can find a man willing to take them seriously, but It would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:17 PM
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I agree. However, I think men should just be more upfront about why they prefer "virgins.“ If he wants a virgin, yet he himself is not a virgin, then he is either a hypocrite or he holds a woman's virginity differently to a man's, which then tips towards misogyny, and I think women are entitled to know which of the two he is before making the decision to be with him or not. Just be upfront about it. Or as you put it "informed consent.“
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:08 PM
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It might offer men "hope“ but it doesn't really give them results...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:07 AM
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Good manners Good hygiene Gentle Quiet Principled Patient Tall Not insecure/does not hate themselves but also not overly confident/arrogant. Generous Attentive Forgiving Responsible Left leaning Respects women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:35 AM
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I am married but If i woke up single tomorrow id rather stay single than lower my standards. My standards are simple. Respect me, respect the people I love. The second you're begging someone for respect is the second you lose it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:44 AM
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I completely agreeee. It's normal for us women to get turned on by other men as well. Especially during ovulation. It's literally normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:36 AM
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Woman rejected being property. Men, on the other hand, seem weirdly proud of being disposable. Men called it honor. You don’t see women romanticizing dying for their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:01 AM
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Working long hours doesn’t automatically mean you're contributing meaningfully to society lmfaooo. It just means you’re useful to an economy that runs on burnout and overwork. Congrats, you're being exploited lol. And your opinion on single mothers is unoriginal and completely untrue. Most are doing the best they can with limited resources and little support (all while working, managing a household, and still showing up emotionally for their kids.) Blaming women for everything wrong in a boy’s l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:53 PM
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Sure, single men might work long hours and use fewer state resources, but that doesn't mean they're contributing to society. You can be productive and still be disposable. And single mothers are raising the next generation. They are literally doing the hardest, most thankless job while often being underpaid, unsupported, and still taxed. Society only notices them when it wants to blame them for something. Meanwhile, a lot of single men do just work... eat, sleep. That’s not a personal attack. Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:32 PM
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You're acting like I made the rules. I didn’t invent the draft, I just acknowledged how it's historically worked and why. Young men have always been the first sent to die in wars, not because I personally ranked their worth, but because that’s how systems of power have functioned. You can be mad at me, or you can be mad at centuries of precedent. As for your “incubator” comment. Yeah, actually, society does already do that lol. Have you been living under a rock? And while I agree old men startin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:25 PM
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In this context, I was specifically talking about war or life-or-death situations. Of course, the goal should be to preserve as much human life as possible, but if people have to die, I believe it should be men. Historically, it’s mostly young, single men who get drafted anyway, which makes sense, they’re less likely to leave behind a wife or children. To be honest, I don’t think much about single, childless men. They don’t contribute significantly to society until there’s a war.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:19 PM
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I never said I believed men deserve life. I said I recognize that they do. Some of them are dads, brothers, husbands. I also don't "believe" men are disposable. Men ARE disposable. History has made that pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:36 PM
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I tend to be emotionally detached, so I often feel uncomfortable when men openly cry or express emotions. (Anger included, since many don’t even consider that an emotion.) I also believe that men should be the ones to protect the vulnerable (like the elderly, children, and women.) While I recognize that men are equally deserving of life, in life-or-death situations such as wars, I think men should step up because they are more disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:05 PM
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No, I’m not justifying misandry. I’m explaining where it comes from, not excusing it. Misandry often grows out of frustration with systemic misogyny, much like some men develop resentment toward women after personal or societal rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:20 AM
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Just because something feels normal doesn’t mean it’s natural. it might just be what boys were taught from a young age: "man up," "don't cry," "be strong." That’s patriarchy. Also, if you think it's normal for men to not talk about their problems then can you guys please shut up about men's mental health??? Since you shut down our attempts to help y'all. As for feminists having a "toxic relationship with femininity" you'll need to explain that. Feminism, at its core, challenges the devaluation o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:04 AM
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Dude, you're shifting the argument now. First, you said misandrists "maintain power by playing the victim," but now you're talking about individual well-being metrics among average men and women. Those are different conversations. If you're saying most men are worse off materially or emotionally, I agree there's an important conversation to have about how men are struggling. But that doesn't prove that women (or misandrists, whatever that term means in your argument) hold institutional or system…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:39 AM
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Male disposability, the empathy gap, emotional repression, pressure to be providers, these aren’t the results of feminism. They’re exactly what patriarchy looks like. A system that values men primarily for what they can produce, or endure. Not who they are. Feminists have been calling this out for decades. You say, “no one gives a fuck about men.” That’s a serious problem. So why attack the one movement that actually critiques the societal structures that devalue everyone who doesn’t conform to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:32 AM
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Vague claims about "misandrists" holding power or "society siding with women" don’t hold up without examples or evidence. If men truly lacked power, they wouldn’t still dominate politics, businesses, tech, finance, media ownership, and military influence. And when a man and woman have a disagreement (especially in legal contexts like custody battles or workplace disputes) the outcomes are far more nuanced than “society sides with women.” And who defines what's socially acceptable? That’s influen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:26 AM
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Misogyny isn’t something feminists “invented." Just because some laws have changed doesn’t mean misogyny disappeared. As for men falling behind in education. yes, it’s a serious issue, and it deserves attention. But the fact that it doesn't get enough is not proof of "misandry" it reflects how patriarchy devalues vulnerability in men. Society teaches boys they shouldn’t need help, shouldn’t fall behind, shouldn’t feel anything. That’s not feminism’s doing. Thats the patriarchy hurting men, too. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:19 AM
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What power? Be specific please!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:13 AM
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Misandrists are a result of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:10 AM
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Eating three meals a day is about staying alive. And honestly, not everyone even needs three meals. Some people have discipline with food, which is actually attractive. So yeah, it is the analogy I want to use. You can’t run desirability through a calculator. People aren’t stats. If you constantly need to prove women want you, then clearly you don’t believe it yourself. Real confidence is not needing to check if the world still finds you attractive every five seconds. It’s being secure whether y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:51 PM
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You don’t need to eat 20 meals to confirm you're not starving. Just like you don’t need to sleep with 20 women to know you're desirable. If a man needs to keep 'verifying' his options, then he's not confident. He's insecure, and he's chasing external validation. If a man feels the need to constantly "verify" his options through sex, he’s not validating himself, he’s chasing validation from others. A confident man knows he’s desirable by how women respond to him, just like a woman can tell she’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:52 AM
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You’re acting like anyone denied the fact that on average, women have been more likely to value marriage but you’re completely missing the point. No one’s arguing that “plenty of men value commitment” disproves anything. It’s a response to the narrative that only women are desperate for it, when the data shows it’s not that black and white. You even admitted that some women are foregoing marriage which supports what we’ve been saying! the dynamic is changing, and not all women are lining up to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:22 AM
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LMAO acting like women are the ones desperate for commitment in 2025 is wild. Most of y’all aren’t single by choice you're single because women are done settling for bare minimum. Women aren’t chasing commitment like they used to. They’re building careers, living their lives, and only considering relationships when the man actually brings them peace. The rise of “situationships” and “sneaky links” didn’t come out of nowhere. Women helped shape that culture too. So yeah, keep calling it delusion …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:22 AM
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Again, I never said women IN relationships don’t want commitment. My point was that the women who are really eager or desperate to get married are usually ALREADY in long-term relationships 2 to 8+ years deep. Single women, across the board, just aren’t rushing to get married like that anymore. They’re dating around, hooking up, and doing their thing just like men do. Commitment usually comes AFTER a relationship has been established, not before. Plus, a lot of younger women literally popularize…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 07:15 AM
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Yes, when it comes to dating. But it's no longer the end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:46 AM
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Yes, many women value commitment but so do plenty of men. And just as many women are choosing not to marry or settle down, often because they don’t see a worthwhile reason to, not because they can’t. And education and financial independence are NOT the enemy here. People (especially women) are choosing to prioritize themselves over rushing into marriages that historically didn’t serve them well. Marriage and birth rates are declining not just because of the cost of living but because people are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:16 AM
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Don’t worry! The message has definitely spread. Women are far less likely to remarry after divorce, so you've got plenty of 30+ divorcées just looking for fun. And younger women? A lot more are participating in hookup culture these days. So really, sounds like you're in luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:00 AM
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I'm pretty sure the same men who avoid committing to their long-term girlfriends wouldn’t exactly love being proposed to themselves. Speaking as someone who used to struggle with commitment before meeting my husband I would’ve hated being proposed to after making it clear I wasn’t ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:56 AM
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Well, you're already a better woman than me because I’d take being a spoiled "slut" with no chores over being a loyal wife getting mistreated and cheated on any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:13 AM
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Okay, so if you're a woman, would you rather be a loyal wife to a man who emotionally neglects you and cheats on you, or be a 'slut' who gets spoiled without having to cook or clean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:01 AM
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Yeah, men and women both cheat. No one’s denying that. But that doesn't make my statement not true lol. Men love sluts. They marry them, cheat on their wives with them, empty their pockets for them. And yeah, women file more but that’s often because they’re the ones actually doing the emotional labor and finally decide enough is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:46 AM
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Saying “women want commitment more than men” is just running with an old stereotype. People are different. Some guys do want commitment. Some girls don’t. And googling something like “why don’t men want to commit” vs “why don’t women want to commit” just shows what society thinks, not what’s actually true. Acting like all women are desperate for marriage and all men are scared of it is just outdated. We’re not in the 1950s anymore. The marriage rate + birth rates are declining because more women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:40 AM
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That statement would be true if men weren't actively cheating on their wives and abandoning their children for sluts. Being a wife in today's day and age is a humiliation ritual. I would rather be a slut and reap the benefits than be a wife and get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:33 AM
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Im sorry, do you think only woman hit "the wall.“ Men start approaching the wall at 40+ I think the biggest scam men fell for is the "men age like fine wine.“ If you're not getting bitches in your twenties, you're not going to get bitches when you start balding buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:28 AM
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That subreddit is full of woman who are with their partner 2-8+ years who don't understand why they haven't popped the question. It's not single women desperate to get married lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:11 AM
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Men love sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:09 AM
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What part of my response "proves“ I have no empathy for men?? I literally stated “I don't automatically assume every man that is single is a loser.“
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:29 PM
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Verifying that you "have options" isn’t the same as sleeping around. If a man needs to sleep with multiple women just to convince himself he has options, then what he really lacks is confidence. Which is also a major turn off for a lot of women. The moment someone has to act on a desire to prove something, that’s already weakness. They're being led by ego and lust, not logic or values. You don’t need to sleep with 20 women to know you’re desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:51 PM
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Honestly, as a woman with a lot of men in her life (brothers, brothers male friends, male friends, etc) i never ask or am curious about their dating life. Most of them are single but i would never assume it's involuntary and if it was i doubt they would go around announcing that. I don't automatically assume every man that is single is a loser. I have met and encountered a few men who I automatically think "wow, how you have a girlfriend/wife is beyond me. I wonder what she's doing dating a lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:44 PM
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You’re mixing up building the options with acting on them. It might take discipline to get in shape or become high status so women want you. Sure. But if you always indulge a desire, you’re not controlling it. You're feeding it. True discipline is having the options and choosing not to be ruled by them. By your logic, the man is ‘in control’ because he’s doing whatever his lust wants that’s not control, that’s giving in every time. That’s exactly the opposite of what discipline means. Therefore.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:44 PM
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Because sex isn’t just some mindless recreational hobby like playing video games. it comes with real physical, emotional, and social consequences. Without discipline, you risk. Your health No matter how much you preach about condoms and testing, more partners means higher chances of STDs. Even porn stars, who are literal professionals, get tested constantly because they know the risks. Your Emotional well-being. People love to pretend sex is always purely physical, but for many, it’s not. Sleepi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:39 PM
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People give us flack because it’s not “normal.” My husband and I accept that. we know our relationship makes some people uncomfortable. But we would never try to advocate to normalize what we have. He’s lost friends over the criticism, and so have I. We both fully understood from the start that we’d be judged and even ostracized for being together, but we chose it anyway because we love each other. I actually appreciate the concern my friends and family have shown. I know it comes from a place o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:30 PM
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It’s not a lack of discipline if someone has sex once a week with the same person. someone he knows is clean. I wouldn’t see that as lacking sexual discipline at all, especially if it were with me. It’s still just one partner, not a revolving door. < You can just ask them lol Right, because people never lie. Brilliant plan. < Safe sex is a thing. There are literal pornstars who are STD free. Sure... but for pornstars, sex with multiple partners is literally their job, so of course they take ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:21 PM
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I would never want to be with a man who would. I find discipline in a man extremely attractive, and a lack of sexual discipline is a huge turn-off for me. Why would I want to be married to the town bike? As for your last question, a guy “banging a new woman every week” is putting a lot at risk. He has no idea how many partners those women have had, which makes him more likely to contract an STD. If it were with the same woman he knew was clean, then sure "nobody gets hurt" but I’m not taking my …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:48 AM
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The example you gave “banging a different woman every week” isn’t mild at all. That’s not harmless fun. that’s lack of sexual discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:29 AM
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I would think he has no sexual discipline and part ways. A man who cannot control his lust is a weak man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:16 AM
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He wants to normalize it so when he reaches 30
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:09 AM
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As someone married to a man significantly older than me, I can tell you it’s not older women who judge or ostracize me. They usually mind their own business. It’s my friends and other young women I meet who think it’s disgusting or unnatural to be with someone so much older. Young men tend to keep quiet, while older men are often the worst. They make crude, creepy comments that neither me ie my husband find funny or acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:08 AM
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Thats not true. I am married to a man significantly older than me and I get ostracized and judged for it. I am aware of how uncomfortable it makes people. Both women and men in these cases get judged for it, not just the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:01 AM
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As someone in an aged gap relationship, a lot of unwanted negative attention does not come from bitter jealous men or women. It comes from family members and friends who are concerned and are aware of how unnatural it is for someone my age to be with someone significantly older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:54 AM
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Don't be so pessimistic. Everyone has value—even if not everyone can see it. That’s part of the beauty of life. You haven’t even met all the people who are going to love you yet. Somewhere out there, maybe across the world, there’s a girl who’s also 4ft tall, feeling just as limited by her circumstances. You just have to keep trying. You never know what’s waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:02 PM
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Would you still be thrilled if the woman you were paired with was just as much of a loser as you? Or would you feel like you were cheated—not by society this time, but by the very system you rallied for?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:50 PM
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Comparison is the thief of joy. A random crush is just having lack of information. I have thought random men were attractive or have noticed certain things about them but i never compare them to my husband. Same with random woman. I notice when they are attractive but I try not to compare them to me because i know i'm only judging them based on their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:48 AM
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Did he know the Sting-gray??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:49 AM
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My husband has spoiled me by doing all those things without me needing to ask, so it's now become the standard. He continues to do them even when we're fighting or when he's upset with me. It's so natural now that I hardly notice when he does it, but if he ever stopped, I would definitely notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:18 AM
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I wouldn't be discouraged by a guy's lack of experience. What would bother me is if he was bitter or resentful of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:38 PM
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No... you do care lol. Thats why you commented that. Your comment was meant as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:20 PM
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Thats not the insult you think it is lol (at least not to women)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:06 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:02 PM
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Well then they're doing you a favor. Maybe those women are looking for a way to escape their circumstances, and you might not be the solution they need. Again, you should be asking yourself if that's the kind of woman you want. Consider it a good thing that they showed their true motives early on instead of stringing you along with fake promises until they find someone who makes more money. Someone's 70k is someone else's 100k+.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:52 AM
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Right, and I'm saying men wouldn't be any more sympathetic to women than women are towards men today. Just take a look at how "average" guys already treat women they don't deem desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:44 AM
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63% of men under 30 are single, which is significantly higher than the women in the same age group. And 56% of men under 30 lean towards the Republican Party.Those men lean towards that party because that is the party that feeds them lies. That shoves the "trad life“ down their throats. Those men DO have the power to influence the election. Look at Twitter! That entire platform was taken over by them. Those men are growing in masses. And if you don't think their votes add up, then I can't take y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:35 AM
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Again. They are the ones ELECTING them. Their votes add up. If most people "preferred“ that, then Tinder, Hinge and all other dating apps wouldn't exist. Also, the birth rates and marriage rates wouldn't be plummeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:16 PM
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The government officials were elected because they appeal to certain men. A significant portion of young Republicans consists of incels and red-pillers. They are being influenced to think that pursuing a "trad-life" should be their end goal. This is harming our society and creating a deep divide.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:08 PM
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I don't think you should be asking what financial status women want in a man but should be asking yourself what kind of woman you want for yourself. It seems like you are trying to date women who are either well-established in their careers or are used to a certain level of financial comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 12:57 PM
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I wasn't only referring to crime; I was addressing the overall political climate today. We're witnessing an increase in incels and red-pillers who struggle to get laid, and they're directing their anger at society. They push daily to take away women's rights, and we can only ignore them for so long before they become impossible to ignore. The men on Twitter demanding the repeal of the 19th amendment are not just a fringe group; they are gaining traction and represent a danger to society that ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 12:23 PM
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And yet, a single, sexless woman is still less of a threat to society than a single, sexless man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:38 AM
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Women's reproductive rights being stripped away isn't going to limit their ability to "date around"; if anything, it will actually restrict men's ability to date around without commitment, which will only increase the incel community. The only solution to combat the problem is for men to accept women's rights to choose who they want to date, fuck, or marry. Trying to force women into dating men they do not like or are attracted to is a practice that died long ago; I doubt women will allow themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:36 AM
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You're only dissatisfied with that situation because it doesn't work in your favor. If men were the ones receiving all the attention from all kinds of women, they wouldn't be any more sympathetic than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:24 AM
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I think it's the opposite. Except they don't really "defend“ them; they just make excuses for them or try to justify what they are being criticized for. It's quite exhausting, actually, because a man will never return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:34 AM
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I agree. I don't understand why the men in this sub have an issue with women being "selective" or "picky." They criticize women yet turn around and do the same. They also treat women who they are just sleeping with much differently than they treat women they are actually interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:54 PM
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The same applies to both men and women. Humans weren't designed to encounter so many different faces as social media and dating apps present. Our prescription of beauty is always changing. It's conditioning. It's the same reason why so many men have porn-rotted brains. A man who would have been seen as attractive in the 70's, a guy who has a good job, good personality, takes care of his body and health, and is overall a solid person, will not be attractive in 2025. Where's your evidence for that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:49 PM
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A lot of women who rate themselves a 10/10 don't actually believe they are a 10/10. The metric in which they measure themselves differs between men and women; women tend to factor in more than just looks, while men focus solely on physical appearance. OP is trying to tell women to "lower their standards, but there's no reason for them to do so. After all, who wouldn't want to date above their league with little to no effort? Men may claim to have a "diverse set of preferences.” But that only app…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:20 PM
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That's why women are more careful when selecting their bf/husband. Because they know the consequences of not being more selective/picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:42 PM
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Yes. It's very obvious when someone is being performative. Not just in dating but in general. The classic sayings "actions speak louder than words" and "if he/she wanted to, he/she would" never fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:13 AM
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I've never had a FWB or a hookup. But if I had to guess, with a hookup, you just want something quick and meaningless. Like fast food! You know it's not good-quality food, but it gets the job done, and it's convenient. With a bf/husband, you want to savor it. You want to enjoy the appetizer (kisses, small touches) before you get to the meal. What he gets is you lol. He gets you for a long time, not a short time. Sure, fast food is good. But it's not good as a steady diet. Eventually, we all want…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:06 AM
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It doesn't matter if a woman who isn't a 10/10 thinks she is. Confidence is a mindset. You don't see women complaining about not being able to get laid or date so why should they "lower their standards,“ if what they're doing is clearly working lol. Also, saying mens standards are already low when just a few months ago they were calling Sydney Sweeney fat and “mid,“ is crazy. Go to your local Walmart. Every couple you see match each other looks-wise. Its rare i ever see a couple where one is a 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:50 AM
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Its just maturing 🤷🏽‍♀️ I know some women who have always chased after "bad boys.“ And I know some women whose types have changed as they aged. For me, i used to be boy crazy! I would crush on guys that i thought were unattainable (aloof, nonchalant) but once i got any inclination that they liked me back i would stop liking them. Now that I'm older i can see how immature that was. I no longer see the appeal of wanting someone who is "unattainable.“ Now that I'm older i don't want to play that ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:35 PM
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Only children often receive all the focus from their parents, and from my experience, many of them struggle with sharing. They also tend to show less empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:32 AM
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I would never date someone who doesn't share their food or who is a gemini/cancer. Im not that into astrology but every gemini/cancer I've ever met turned out to be a shitty person. The proof is in the pudding. Oh, and also, any man that is an only child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:19 AM
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I wish i can stand and applaud you! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 you worded this perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:47 AM
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Man is trying to scare women into settling for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:36 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:53 AM
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I think it's their way of coping. By creating false standards that are so unattainable, they can blame their failures on that instead of facing the truth. It gives them something to point fingers at. "Women aren't interested in me because I'm not 6 feet tall,” when the truth is they are a raging narcissist, or "Women don't want me because I don't make six figures,” and not because they are genuinely terrible people. The only thing a man needs to be a good dating prospect is to literally be upfro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:23 AM
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No. I definitely expect my husband to pamper me but I do not expect other men too. I have friends and family who are married to men who don’t absolutely nothing and expect their wives to do everything. If for some reason my husband could not work or do “masculine” things around the house, I would be more than willing to do it myself and I would my think a my less if him. Historically, him and were hunters and gatherers. Men went out to hunt—animals—and women gathered—plants, fruits, vegetables. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:34 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:24 PM
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What makes it a paradox? Aren’t our parents, siblings, nephews, and nieces considered family? I’m not trolling; I’m just trying to highlight a point that you seem unwilling to grasp. I get it, though—it’s easier to deny reality than to face the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:35 PM
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The main idea of RP is to help people open their eyes and see the truth and abandon the unrealistic fantasies many people live in. “They are noticing they want more than what they are getting.” No, they are sulking and throwing tantrums that they have to put in effort in order to be successful in dating when it comes easy to others. They believe they’ve been dealt an unfair hand due to their height, thinking they have to struggle more than others, when in fact, everyone is on the same playing fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:31 PM
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The exchange is being desired. Fat, ugly, single women are still desired, even if it’s by some desperate ugly man. Fat, ugly, single men are not. Because desperate women do not exist in masses like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:10 PM
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Again, the quality of the options is irrelevant; they remain choices regardless of their nature. Knowing that you are desired even if it’s by someone you think is undesirable is still better than knowing you are not desired even by those you don’t think are desirable. While I agree that pity sex is not great and might be worse than no sex at all, many guys would still take that chance. You said in your last reply that men are “horny,” so isn’t it likely that those guys would be eager for a pity …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:07 PM
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Yes, some women stay in abusive relationships in fear of solitude, but not all. And some men also stay in abusive relationships in fear of solitude, but not all. Have you met single, childless men? They are bitter and lonely in comparison to single, childless women who have families and enjoy their lives. When I said women build communities I meant they volunteer, they go out a meet people! They spend quality time with their families and friends! How many foundations have you laid? How many mile…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:52 PM
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If men weren’t desperate, then we wouldn’t be seeing the rise of red pill men who blame everyone but themselves for their failures. If pussy was not hard to find, then incels wouldn’t exist. When women say they are “lonely,” they mean they are not with anyone. They aren’t actually lonely when it comes to friends and family. Women build communities around them. When men say they are lonely, they are truly LONELY. They are social rejects and don’t know how to function in group settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:39 PM
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Again, it doesn’t matter if the value is overestimated. It exists regardless of how low you perceive it to be. If something is in demand, it holds value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:56 PM
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It doesn’t matter if those “options” are not interested in commitment. It’s still more than what men have. Which is zero options. They don’t even have someone who will pity fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:54 PM
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It doesn’t matter if it’s an “illusion of options,” it’s still more than what men have. Men don’t have the “option” to have sex with the hottest woman unless they themselves are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:50 PM
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Women don’t cling to abusive relationships in fear of solitude. Single, childless women are often among the happiest group of people. Women build relationships outside of romantic relationships. They build communities. It’s MEN who are dying alone in masses. The only thing driving men away from dating is their inability to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:46 PM
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MGTOW make up a small group of men. Women don’t need to believe anything. Men ARE desperate. I think you’re underestimating just how desperate men are for an ounce of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:41 PM
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More men are complaining about being single than women are. Not approaching ≠ men rejecting women. Woman do not have fragile egos, women approach men they find desirable. Women tend to get approached more frequently than men. For every desperate woman, there are at least three desperate men, and that’s a conservative estimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:36 PM
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Exactly. And even the ones that are single still have more options than some men could ever dream of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:23 PM
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Inflated sense of value? If a lot of guys are chasing or “simping” after them, doesn’t that suggest they hold some value? It doesn’t matter that boring, overweight, mediocre women have a high opinion of themselves. They have reason to if multiple men are interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:16 PM
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Then why are so many men complaining? We hear it all the time. They complain that “simps” have inflated fat women’s egos by giving them attention, so clearly they are desired by some men. Fat women, single mothers, and “feminist militants” often remain single by their own choice. Unlike some men, who not even the women I just listed are desperate enough to want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:08 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 12:59 PM
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I never said I viewed masculine and feminine roles as that. I only mentioned that some men, like my father and husband bring out the more feminine side of me than other men. I would argue that in nature there is correlation to that. Perhaps not in the examples you provided but there is a staggering difference between the two. Both roles cannot co-exist not even in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:44 AM
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Men can’t believe women are single by choice because men are not single by choice. Even the women they call “mid,” ugly, or fat don’t want them. Not even single mothers, who some men think are less desirable, want them. That’s why they can’t sympathize with women because they can’t imagine ever being desired, not even by women they think are not desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:02 AM
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Its sad that he wants to be another grown adult’s hero, and yes wanting to be needed is pretty sad if you think about the implications of the mental state of someone who wants to be needed. Men’s fantasies often originate from the superheroes they admired in their childhood, while women’s dreams of being “saved” originate from what they grew up watching—Disney movies and princesses. It’s unfortunate that you haven’t experienced that kind of love to understand it. I don’t think it effects his men…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:01 PM
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Oh, for sure. I think it’s more of a fantasy than anything. The dynamic only works if the woman still has some agency and is still independent in her own ways. If not, then it can turn bad really quickly. Perhaps men don’t want someone to take care of them in the same way women do, but they still want to come home to a clean house and a warm, cooked meal. That’s also, in a way, being taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:10 PM
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Oh for sure. But I feel like if something were to happen to cause us to split, I would still love him. The love itself has manifested itself into unconditional love because I’ve loved him for this long already. But if he were to one day put his hands on me I’m sure that would change our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:37 PM
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No, my man doesn’t have any social media and hardly uses his phone except for what it’s actually meant for—calling, texting, taking photos. And I prefer it that way. I feel like social media rots our brains and puts unnecessary pressure onto us. I’ve tried explaining the whole pill debate and incels to him but he doesn’t understand it. He will sometimes agree with some things like the male loneliness epidemic and that some men are at a disadvantage but only if I bring up the topic. Otherwise he …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:21 PM
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It’s sad that my husband loves me? Everyone likes to be needed. It’s what makes us human. Wanting to be needed and “catering” to his wife most definitely makes him a good man. At least in the eyes of God, which is all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:58 PM
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In the beginning of any relationship the love is conditional. But I think through time the loves becomes almost unconditional. I love my husband unconditionally. If he woke up and decided to change his gender I would most definitely be devastated and heartbroken to know that the man I was in love with doesn’t really exist but I would still want to be with him. I would just fall in love with the new him while mourning the old him I thought I knew. I love him so much that sometimes it becomes so o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:30 PM
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My husband and I have a more traditional relationship, but I do not “submit” to him. He does, however, like to be NEEDED. He enjoys being needed and takes pride in being my hero. He goes out of his way to make my life easier, like filling my car with gas and opening doors for me. Anytime I have an emergency or need any help, he likes that he’s the first person I call or need. Can I open my own door and fill my own car up? Yes, of course, but I choose to let him do those things because it makes h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:15 PM
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A gold digger is a person who pursues a relationship with a wealthy person for the sole purpose of gaining access to their money. That was not at all what I said. The average man is not wealthy; therefore, he can’t really be exploited. A man’s value isn’t determined by how much money he has. Still, any man wanting to date or get married should have some way to support himself and If he can’t even pay for a date, it makes him a less appealing choice for a partner. I think you’re too focused on ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:47 AM
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How am I “scrubbing pockets for change?” I simply said no respectable man or “high-value” man would ever expect any woman to cover the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:52 AM
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You and most men on this subreddit do not need to worry about gold diggers because the average man does not have any gold for anyone to try and dig.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:34 AM
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No respectable man would ever expect any woman to foot the bill. Ideally, a date shouldn’t cost more than $100, and that’s a bit much. If a “high-value” man can’t afford to pay for it, then he is not high value. Splitting the bill with men is what gets you in relationships like you just mentioned. Not paying the bill and keeping firm in your standards helps weed out men you’re not compatible with. I would never want to be with a man who expects me to cover the bill; therefore, I would never go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:29 PM
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He’s a 7/10 but expects to split the bill? Then he’s a -7/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:18 PM
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No respectable man would ever expect any woman to foot the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:15 PM
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If you can see that those woman treat their men like “kings,” you should be able to see if they are treated like “queens,” in return. I could always tell if a woman has a good husband without ever having to even meet him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:40 PM
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My husband is from a different generation. He’s one of the last good men. He also doesn’t “expect” me to to treat him like a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:30 PM
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I’m happily married! I hope you find yourself a good man that you can treat like a king!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:25 PM
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We can have plenty of conversation where that question isn’t brought up. As long as the conversation in question isn’t about women treating men like “kings” in order to be considered “one of the good ones.” Everyone knows that in order for a relationship to prosper both men and women should be lifting their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:46 AM
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Ew. What a sad excuse of a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:59 AM
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Do those men also do anything for their woman or to take care of their relationship or does that only fall on the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:29 AM
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Men are not deserving of being “treated like a king,” anymore. That’s an extinct species.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:27 AM
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I think her tone is perfectly appropriate here. She is getting her point across to him without coddling him. Everything she said rings true; is there a more gentle way to say lack of pussy is not something to be crying about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:08 AM
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Nope. I’ve heard it from all kinds of men. Men always say they want “thick” women. You can’t have a “thick” or busty woman without her having some weight on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:03 PM
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Middle school and high school boys would call me and other girls sticks and bones to get laid? 🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:15 PM
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I think many men have a skewed perception of what they see as “fat” or “skinny.” From what I’ve noticed, most men tend to be attracted to women who are either curvy in the hips or bust, which often means that those women carry a bit more weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:13 PM
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I’ve had skinny, fit men tell me they prefer chubby or fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:08 PM
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You do realize some people are attracted to heavier people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:53 PM
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I agree, no one owes anyone commitment unless they explicitly agreed to it. What do you mean make an entire page about it? And what legal action are men taking against it? The red pill take up a large part of the young men. And it might not take up the “general man,” we are seeing a concerning rise of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:23 AM
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Rally - (verb) come together again in order to continue fighting after a defeat or dispersion. Rally - (noun) a mass meeting of people making a political protest or showing support for a cause. Synonyms: group together, gather, round up, assemble. I think I know what rallying is, Sir. This sub, among other subreddits, could be seen as such. I don’t think women voicing their displeasure at not being the only woman a guy is dating is “bitching.” Just like guys don’t like it when a girl they are se…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:13 AM
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As a woman who has grown from a teenager into adulthood, I can confidently say that many of my female friends and family members prefer men who are open about their feelings and wear their heart on their sleeves. I’m sorry to hear about your son’s grandmother shaming him not to cry, but just because one person says something, it doesn’t mean it’s the only way to think. When I was younger, my parents often said I was too emotional and loud, and that girls shouldn’t be so opinionated, and yet as I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:06 AM
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Thank you for also sharing your thoughts. Historically, women had very few choices when it came to marriage. Many had to marry before they reached an age where they would be considered a spinster, leaving them little time to assess whether their partner was truly deserving. The pressure often came from family and society, making women feel that their chances of finding a husband dwindled as they aged. With limited rights to own property or earn a living, many ended up marrying men who were not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:16 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:35 AM
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Again, the same could be said for women. We no longer have to be prim and proper or “save ourselves” to be considered suitable for marriage. We are now able to have just as much sex as men without being shamed or shunned from society. Pussy does indeed run the world; if it didn’t, we wouldn’t be seeing such a rise in red-pill men or incels who can’t get any pussy. You don’t see women forming movements or rallying together out of frustration over not being able to get laid. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:59 AM
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Both are worse. The fact that one is an adult woman and the other is a child boy doesn’t change the reality that both were victims of abuse by someone in a position of power. When discussing which situation might be more prevalent, I would argue that the former is more common, as your example focuses solely on female teachers abusing young boys, rather than the broader issue of women abusing men. Women accused of such crimes undergo similar legal processes as men, and any discrepancies in senten…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:51 AM
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The only reason sex was used for commitment back then was mainly because there weren’t many birth control methods available, which led to unplanned pregnancies. Nowadays, with so many options to prevent pregnancy, sex isn’t seen as a way to force someone into a relationship anymore. Regarding your crude comment about only needing to “fuck a woman good” to receive wife treatment, the same applies to women. Pussy runs the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:02 AM
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The same can be said for men. Before social media, they had nearly flawless PR and were able to get away with so much. Back then, people weren’t inclined to “expose” people because it wouldn’t really be doing anything. The men in power would continue to hold their power without consequence. However, social media has empowered people to bring these issues to light, which is a key factor in the rise of the Me Too movement, allowing women to reveal the misconduct of “powerful” men. It was once unim…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:16 PM
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That makes sense and your desire for that kind of woman is totally reasonable, but it might be a bit unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:18 PM
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That’s a funny way of saying you can’t argue the absurdity of your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:15 PM
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No, I understand that part. What’s confusing is your desire for a woman who is both modest and reserved about her body but is enthusiastic in bed. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Wouldn’t it be logical to just look for a woman who genuinely enjoys sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:06 PM
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No, explain to me what obedience means to YOU. How would YOU benefit from her being obedient to God?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:41 PM
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But you want her to have an active sex life? 🤔🤔 explain your logic to me to like I’m five so I can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:37 PM
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Dude. They are tearing you apart in inceltears. Rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:06 AM
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Explain what you mean by obedient and don’t describe a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:05 AM
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He wants both the Madonna and the whore
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:02 AM
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It’s tedious and exhausting when you have to step up and play both roles. Woman are more than willing to play the more “masculine” role. Just don’t expect us to also play the feminine one too. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:49 AM
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Good 👏🏽 those kind of men tend to be the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:48 PM
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Thankfully, I’ve never dated any man like this but I can imagine It’s very exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:36 PM
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Femininity and masculinity should come naturally. There are certain men who I feel feminine around because they naturally assume the masculine part. For example, and I know this doesn’t define what masculinity means, but when I’m around my father or husband, I never have to worry about footing the bill or having to do any heavy lifting or I just feel safe. And I’ve been around men who just stand around, which forces me to take the masculine part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:30 AM
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Sorry you’re such a sourpuss. I do not shit talk men to him lol. He works so that I can stay home and shit talk men online. It’s a hobby of mine. Don’t feel bad for the guy. He has his belly full and his balls drained.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:01 AM
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You couldn’t what? Shit on men? The more I say it out loud, the more I realize my words might have been misconstrued. To clarify, I am not actually physically shitting on men. I do not have a scat kink lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:32 AM
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That’s not true. I spend my time time shitting on men but I’m happily married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:08 PM
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It means they are uncomfortable. I know some people that are uncomfortable being around gay people. Is that them infantilizing them? No, they’re just uncomfortable. My friends and family see me as 100% capable of making my own choices but it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t worry about me. Especially my family. Im married to an older man, and my parents look out for me. My brother is also an an age gape relationship with a younger woman and they also look out for him because they know it’s not the no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:49 PM
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Well, I don’t look like a teenager anymore but standing next to my husband I probably do. I’ve faced many discrimination against my relationship because of it. People assuming he’s my father, people giving us uncomfortable glances when we correct them. I think the subs fascination is because it’s out of the norm. It’s not something you normally see in real life. People only care when it becomes a pattern. Like Leonardo DiCaprio. I’m sure with the first two no one batted an eye but when it become…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:25 AM
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It’s not so much that they interfere, but rather the questions and comments they make, which I actually appreciate. Dating someone much older has its own set of challenges that dating someone my age doesn’t. For instance, my parents were quick to ask if we planned to have kids, since he’s at an age where it’s normal of him to want to start a family, while I’m not. Was that them being jealous or them just being protective? My friends and other women have asked how we met and how long we’ve been t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:18 AM
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From someone who is in an age gap relationship, I do not see it as they are infantilizing me, are jealous of me, or have unresolved trauma. I think they are just uncomfortable with it. Which is fine. I completely understand. I think of it as they are looking out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:50 PM
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You’re not arguing that people shouldn’t be mocked or made to feel lesser than because they are not getting sex. You’re argument is that sex is a need like shelter, food and water for survival when it’s not. If you said that sex is a need for reproduction, then yes none one would disagree because sex is important for reproducing. However, sex for just pleasure is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:40 PM
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To answer your questions, No. No. No. No. No. Mm, I think we could all agree that is important for anyone to live. Hope this helps 🫶🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:27 PM
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Honestly, I used to believe that women were the prize but the more I observe other couples the more I realize that whoever is holding the relationship together is the prize. Whoever is the one willing to make compromises, and the one willing to put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:44 PM
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It’s great that you feel confident that you are at the top of the food chain when it comes to dating at your age. It looks like you have plenty of options, so why bother comparing yourself to a “25-year-old 6/10”? You do not compete where you don’t compare. You and the other person are in different stages of life, so why compare your dating options? Most men are just “waiting around to get lucky,” and women can sense that desperation. They can tell when men are genuinely interested or just looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:14 PM
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I’m sorry but what advantage do young women have in dating that young men don’t? If anything, by your logic, shouldn’t women be the ones at a disadvantage since women “expire” like milk and men continue to age like fine wine? And I will argue that young men do have an advantage in dating. You said it yourself: young men are often in the social circles of young women. Middle school, high school, and college. Isn’t that the greatest advantage? Isn’t that when most people start dating? Men of all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:39 PM
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Then why do you harbor animosity towards single mothers? I, too, grew up in a two-parent household, where my mother had a more significant impact on my upbringing compared to my father, who was often absent because of work. The historical context of men being away working or at war has always been prevalent, which left them with limited involvement in their children’s upbringing. Women are often recognized for their significant role in a child’s life, leading to them being granted custody more f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:14 PM
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Simply being in good shape and having a hair transplant won’t stop a man from aging. No matter how healthy he is, aging is inevitable and will eventually show. A 40-year-old will not look like a 20-year-old just because he’s fit and has a head full of hair. He will just look like a fit 40-year-old man. Men do, in fact, tend to become bitter as they age, because they begin to feel cheated out of a fantasy life when they realize that the only women who want them or are attracted to them are women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:24 PM
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I’m sorry you feel that way about yourself. But not everyone is a “social deject.” George Washington, Malcom Turnbull, Penny Wong, Theodore Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan… all presidents and world leaders that were raised by single mothers were they all sets backs to humanity development? … I don’t think so buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:03 PM
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Sperm is literally cheaper than buying eggs or compensating a surrogate. Everyone knows that. Your sperm is essentially a waste… Population is crucial for the continuation of civilizations, as without it, there would be no civilization at all. Therefore, population is what sustains civilizations. Women are not attempting to separate themselves from the idea that their bodies are their only value. Women have always taken pride in their bodies and their capabilities. Our bodies can produce milk, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:46 PM
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Is that why there is such a rise of single mothers? Because men are being “useful”.:.. Right… Women do not need men to raise children. It’s been proven time and time again in history. A lot of men are absent fathers. And even the ones who are in the child’s life are still emotionally absent.. men are not needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:07 PM
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Well considering that “hole” pops out babies which keep scivilization going I would say we are the table lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:02 AM
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Whenever I hear someone say they are “strong and independent” I always take it as they are emotionally strong and independent. That they aren’t kids or teenagers anymore who rely on their parents or other people. I like to think I’m independent though some might not think so considering I’m a stay at home wife who is financially dependent on my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:51 AM
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Woman in general have a reason for as you put it “expiring.” They’re body changes because of child birth. Men however… start balding, growing beer bellies, and worst of all become bitter old men who are not fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:20 AM
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