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| 3 | What are your standards in a partner?By that logic we should ban any subreddit linked to evolutionary psychology since that's the only thing MGTOW and Redpillers have in common with inkwels, they prescribe completely different courses of actions. I want to remember that one of the first inkwel forums was called PUAhate.com - for reference the one where Rodger posted - for a reason, blackpill ideology was born from a rejection of Redpill one. We can go on and ban all subredddit linked to islam since many muslims are terrorist. Ignor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 08:35 AM |
| 2 | What are your standards in a partner?MGTOW didn't encourage murder, on the contrary they encouraged bulding distance from women yet it got banned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/21 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Male looks and attraction sort of fall into a bell curve, which explains a lot of datingHow tall are you? Your experieince is very atypical, maybe you are underrating yourself. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/12/21 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Male looks and attraction sort of fall into a bell curve, which explains a lot of datingDo you come from a very conservative and religious country? | /r/ExRedPill | 20/12/21 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Ask a woman anything! + rant I guess..What do you think are better alternatives in this age? | /r/ExRedPill | 15/12/21 11:34 PM |
| 4 | Ask a woman anything! + rant I guess..I'm glad you are in a better state now, you seem to agree that there differences between men and women but disagree with hate speech which is a balanced stance. Concerning your bisexuality, for men it's the opposite. I - like any average or below dude - get hundreds of matches on gay dating apps but 0 on hetero ones, hot gay men message me while even very conventionally unattracitve women reject me on these platforms. What do you think are the biological differences between male and female sexua… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/12/21 06:38 PM |
| 8 | Do men value “sexual intimacy” over all other forms of intimacy?I'm a guy and yes, sex is a need to me. This is why I don't understand people who suggest others to find friends in order to reduce the desire to date, I made many friends in the last years but it has had zero effect on my desire to have sex and thus date. I think it's good advice for women as dating to them seems more like the result of an emotional/psychological desire than a strong physical feeling like the need of emptying your balls is. For this reason, making friends is a good way to reduc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 06:08 PM |
| 2 | If a man uses his resources to attract women, does that make him a beta male?Do you know who Jeremy Meeks is? He was a poor convicted felon who went to prison for robbery, he got out of prison thanks to thousands of women around the US who decided to fund his bail after Jeremy's hot headhsot was spread through news media, he was too hot to stay in prison according to them. Jeremy then became rich as he was hired by fashion companies to model for them but women already loved him before this. Do you think women feel lust for Bill Gates as they do for Jeremy Meeks? Or do yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 08:00 PM |
| 4 | If a man uses his resources to attract women, does that make him a beta male?Yeah, that's why women lust over the rich and extremely generous Bill Gates as opposed to Jeremy Meeks... Oh wait. There's a difference betweena admiring someone and desiring them, Bill Gates doesn't make women wet, Jeremy does. Do you disagree? Feel free to explain, I'm open to new ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 03:13 PM |
| 5 | If a man uses his resources to attract women, does that make him a beta male?Why wouldn't you be able to date as a hot former felon? You don't have to take those women to expensive dinners as a hot guy. For the sake of the experiment you don't have to date them, just talk to them and see how they respond. Spoiler alert: they'll be thrilled by talking to you, you'll expereince for the first time what it means to have a woman take the initiative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 03:07 PM |
| 2 | If a man uses his resources to attract women, does that make him a beta male?He sounds very logical to . Nor all women are equal, not all mena are equal. We see individuals The hatred that I see from men towards women is amazing. Makes me wonder why you even want to be with women at all. Go to r/TwoXChromosomes, they literally think saying "Not all men" is hate speech, this is real sexism for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 03:03 PM |
| 8 | If a man uses his resources to attract women, does that make him a beta male?Just create a fake Tinder profile of a hot guy who just got out of prison for assault and then compare the result with those of a highly educated ugly male, the experiment will prove you wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 02:58 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts on the black pill science subreddit? Is there another subreddit for former black pillers?This made me laugh, it's such a ridiculous joke that it's good. | /r/ExRedPill | 28/11/21 10:06 AM |
| 1 | If all men had guaranteed sex…I believe in equality, bud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Who's telling women - that is not already telling gay and straight men - to have such standardards for attractiveness exactly? Gay men find the average and even bwlow average dude like me hot, the problem only comes with women and I don't see how society is targeting women speficically to make them have such high standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 06:34 PM |
| 1 | If all men had guaranteed sex…Why should I cry to my gender? Gay men do not have unrealistic looks standards at all. I do what women do, exprress my insecurities but at least I do not shout them on social and news media, I'm not interested in reaching the largest audicence possible like women do to express their "insecurities" . This is equality,. are you really against equality? "Muh, a prettier woman than has posted an Instagram selfie, what am I gonna do? It must be male supremacy! Let's call my feminist male orbiter to v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 06:10 PM |
| 2 | If all men had guaranteed sex…Are you trolling? Genuine question. Do you think complaining on social media, building entire political campaigns to attack men, complaining on the freaking radio and TV every single day (even through national services like the BBC) is ranting among women? Men complain on 4chan or Reddit and on specific subreddits, this is not even comparable and we at least have valid reasons to actually blame women, we can't blame industries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 04:02 PM |
| 3 | If all men had guaranteed sex…Social media platfomrs are full of women who blame men for their insecurities, many even build political campaign over it, it doesn't seem like women are keeping it a secret among themselves and don't take occasions to put the blame on males. I was listening to the BBC the other day and I had to listen for the nth time to a woman complaining about the patriarchy and unrealistic looks standards, I have enough of these lies- Yet I, a guys who is actually being insecure due to real womeì, should sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:48 PM |
| 3 | If all men had guaranteed sex…Oh, really? Clearly women always blaming men, male supremacy, the patriarchy for their insecurities was all the fruit of my imagination /s Where do you live? In Saudi Arabia? Let's be serious here... We mne don't do this blaming thing nearly as much, most men blame individual women for hurting them, few men are aware enough to spot the bigger trend (like men on this sub) and make generalisations against women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:39 PM |
| 1 | If all men had guaranteed sex…The majority of young colleged-aged women today (at least on Reddit) complains about unrealistic looks standards pushed by the evil male supreamcy. It doesn't pass one day without a highly upvoted thread about this topic on female subs, the same doesn't apply to male-majority subs unless we talk specifically about dating subreddits. Whn I'll see women telling other women their need to feel attractive is invalid, I'll stop blaming women for my insecurities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?I don't think women can choose whom they are attracted to so I don't want them to change their tastes, it is what it is. God, I wish I was born gay or bi, kids can be adopted so it wouldn't be a problem to build a family anyway. At least I'm proud that my very strong insecurities are not fruit of my imagination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:25 PM |
| 1 | If all men had guaranteed sex…The need to feel attarctive and appreciated is human, my need is not met and the cause is only one. It's a fact. Why don'ì you tell the same to the women I've mentioned? At least I'm right, those women who blame men for their insecurities (just go on TwoX or any female majority sub) not only do the same but they are also wrong as men are not the cause of theri insecurities, the industry they finance is. Do you tell lwomen that the need to feel attractive is invalid? When i'll see women doing thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Shocking but this is raality, at least you are being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:14 PM |
| -1 | If all men had guaranteed sex…Beccause you are a direct cause of these men's insecurities, not society, not gay dudes, not straight dudes. What I don't understand is women who blame men for the unrealsitic looks standards they feel are pushed on them when they should blame the beauty industry women mainly finance for it, this is actually pathetic as men are everithing but picky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 03:05 PM |
| 2 | If all men had guaranteed sex…Male neediness in dating would drop to zero, even now many women complain that they can't get commitment from hot guys. Now imagine if even average and ugly men had the the same amount of options that hot fuckboyshave, probably only guys with anxious attachment styles would want relationships as much as women. Studies already show that in environments when women are the majority men are less committed and casual sex is more rampant, women become more picky and sex outside of realtionships is rar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?And what's the percenrage of men that can fall in the attractive category? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?I agree that women can choose whether or not to have children, I'm not mansplaining this. I don't think women can choose whom they find attractive, not even men can do that for that matter. If I could i'd choose to be homosexual or bi but I can't since instincts drive my attraction, not deliberate thoughts. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/11/21 05:34 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?This is not how evolution works.. Evolutionary psychology explains our instincts, then we can choose what to do with these instincts as we humans have a very devleoped prefontal cortex that allows us to hold back our emotions in favor of deliberate thinking. Sex drive and attraction are deeply instinctual, you may choose whether or not to have children but you can't choose what turns you on and the latter is deeply shaped by evolutionary factors, Most men find most people of the gender they are … | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?You missed the first point, we men find most women sexually attractive. If women so often befriend men they find repuslive sexually, as you suggest, it seems like you don't find most mne physically attractive which is the point of the thread. We can all see why women wouldn't say yes to most strangers like men would anjd this doesn't need explanation anymore, this question is different. The fact that you made it about "ugly men" it kinda proves women find very few men attractive unlike gay men a… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 10:33 PM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?You forget that in this post I consider men's behavior very predictable and I do think it's very predictable as we have studies, unless you think I also consider men as inferior beings you have to admit I'm not treating women any differently than men in my approach. If anything, as you define "dehumanization" as considering a group's actions predictable, I'm probably dehumizing men more than women here - according to your definition - since I can already predict men's behaviors but I do not have… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Things are changing fast, I'd say that for Gen Z people (my generations) things have already changed. Hollywood no longer makes series and movies like that or at least doesn't produce them often. We now see movies and series where women are promiscuous and can finally get the guys they truly desire, these productions would have been unthinkable just 30 years ago but now they are more popular than the alternatives and very appreciated by young women. Guys are changing too, young guys are aware of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:29 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?No, I don't. I definitely don't want to have sex with my male friends and my female friends who are all partnered. Friendship doesn't have to lead to sex, this is a descriptive thread, it's not a prescriptive one. You can do whatever you want with your friends. This is not about what should happen, this is about the likelihood of something happening in a specific scenario given specific assumptions: guy wants sex, she feels safe around him + BP assumptions about attraction, predict and evaluate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?In the past? Definitely, men were as picky as women. Now? Not at all, women earn just as much as men today so most men can't leverage their economic and social position to gain an unfair advantage anymore. It all boils down to harsh female sexual selection now and the only way to escape it - if you want to date as a guy - is to be born homosexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 08:00 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?It's not at all bad thing per se, it's quite wholesome to be honest, but we now know is just a lie in most cases and this does make it a bad thing. Has it occurred to you that we’re not all the same person? Serious question here. Then it's time to call out the liars among you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 07:57 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Tell me where I've used the term "hate" on this thread, please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Hypergamy means marrying someone of a higher attractiveness and/or income or social status than yourself, correct? Most people regardless of gender wish for the best they can get but end up matching with someone about on their attractiveness and socioeconomic level. Being more selective about who you have sex with because your hormones aren’t telling you to have sex with the nearest thing with a pulse isn’t really hypergamy, at least by my understanding of it. Maybe in the past, until the 90s. 1… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:58 AM |
| 3 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Thanks for admitting you were wrong about men, some people just turn to insults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:45 AM |
| 3 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Hypergamy isn't about preferring the best, everyone does it, it's about being attracted to the best only. Women find very few people physically attractive, straight and gay men are way more democratic in this instead, this is all you need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?If we accept your first paragraph as true, you didn't refute hypergamy, you just gave an explanation for why women are hypergamous. Not to mention, BPers and feminists always claim women have as high sex drive as men, so they are wrong even on this. Turns out evo-pysch and RPers get a lot of things right, maybe feminists and BPEers should stop pursuing unscientific theories. Probably even inkwells are more right thant BPers and feminists at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?And what are these others refutations of hypergamy BluePillers give that you think are more valid? One of the basic assumptions I often see in BP spaces is that evolutionary psychology and gender essentialism are sexist, women's sexuality is just like men's one but women face some social costraints that men don't, this is what I read in feminist and BP spaces | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 03:18 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Of course you don't have to keep track of a large number, I'm asking for percentages. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?No need to be scientific, otherwise I wouldn't have opened a discussion thread. If you want, just express your figures and those of other women you know. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?I can agree with you on this, Reddit is not a study after all. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Of course you shouldn't equat gay men to straight women, gay men act exactly like straight men act towards women when they date men which proves that women are not significantly hotter, men just find more people attractive regardless of sexual orienation. In other words, women find few men physically attractive because they are pickier, shocker, how is this not hypergamy? You just give an explanation for it. BPers keep telling us that is not true, "women's tastes are just as vaied as men's ones"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?I'm pretty sure a college campus is not an accurate representation of men in general. The demographic skews younger, and it's also a time where people will feel it's more acceptable to have casual sex. It's like doing that at a nightclub, where people might be more primed to go home with strangers. The point I was trying to make is that men find most women sexually attractive, a man wouldn't say yes to sex to a woman he didn't find sexually attracitver in a nightclub or campus. I'm not making … | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Have you read the OP? BPers assume hypegamy is not real as women's tastes are as varied as men's ones, they assume womena re mose selective due to risks and slut-shaming. If BPers are right, in a scenario where safety and slut-shaming are not factors women should find most men physically attractive just like non-hypegamous men do with female strangers. If this doesn't happen, BPers are wrong or are missing something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?And I’m not fully blue pill, or any pill, but also not Rp and don’t believe women are any more “hypergamous” than men. And I also don’t think that the only reason women are selective is slut shaming. It’s also lower sex drive and higher risk. Causal sex is just a bad deal for women in general. And the fact that many men think playing friends is a way to get sex is why you should never trust your male “friends” too much. Sex drive has only to do with the frequency of sex, not whom you find sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 01:11 AM |
| -1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Proceeds to talk about women as though we’re not human. If you can't understand that belonging to the human species doesn't mean different groups of humans must have equal instincts and preferences, I don't think we can have a conversation. Human means something different from what you think it means, your definition is bizarre. Individual variations matter and many times they exceed group variations (ie. gendere differences in extroversion, gender differences in height), many other times it's t… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/11/21 01:02 AM |
| -8 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?My generalizations come from peer-reviewed studies that have been replicated several times by different researchers over the years, I gave a couple of links in the thread. You are clearly among the minority of men who wouldn't say yes. The gender difference is huge on this, it vastly exceeds individual variations,. More than 70% of men would say yes in a college campus, considering than - on average - 45% of male college studies are in a realtionship, the percentage is very high. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/21 03:30 PM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?It doesn't have to lead to sex, this is a descriptive thread, it's not a prescriptve one. You can do whateer you want with your friends. This is not about what should happen, this is about the likelihood of something happening in a specific scenario given specific assumptions: guy wants sex, she feels safe around him + BP assumptions about attraction, predict and evaluate the average results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 03:06 PM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?This thread is about the likelihood of getting sex from a female friend, no details are given about how to get to the friendship stage first, the threads assumes you are already at that stage. Whether you started the friendships without having sex in mind - like me - or did instead have sex in mind but had great social skills to hide it, it's not the point of this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 02:53 PM |
| -7 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Women trust me, it's easy - at least for me - to make new friends. I really dislike the advice "Women are humans", of course they are but they are different humans. Men are humans too yet if I asked a random gay guy to have sex with me he would most likely agree, the same applies to straight men with women, it's women who have a problem with this, aren't women humans too? The advice is just useless as you can see, this thread is about exploring the reasons behind these differnces because, you kn… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/21 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?I'll wait for your answer, bud, Don't disappoint me. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/21 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Those sudies on sexual receptivity from strangers are pwwe reviews, not only that but they ae among the most cited studies in social sciences and have been replicated several times by different researches over the years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Ok, I'll try again. Women are not mind readers, I have some female friends, not many but a couple of them, I met them through school and college without the intent of dating but i'd gladly have sex with both them if the opportunity arised. Think about a scenario like this if you need in order to answer the thread, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Please, assume that the premise is valid for the sake of this discussion, this means that women feel safe being alone around the male friend in this scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 09:51 AM |
| 2 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?I was quoting what many women say in many subs. In any case, thanks for giving your perspective as an actual demisexual | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 09:47 AM |
| 6 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?"A lot of dudes claim.." It's definitely not us the problem, I'm just reporting what women say. There are many threads on FemaleDatingStrategy with thousands of upvotes where FDSers say women are demisexual and that demisexuality is just a word to pathologize female normal sexuality. RedPillers and BlackPillers are pretty adamant in saying that women like "chads" instead. Not only that, I've seen so many women on several social networks including the term "demi" or "demisexual" in their bio, it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 09:32 AM |
| 6 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Just be honest and say that you know immediately whether a guy is fuckable or not, just point out that you need to make sure he's safe to be around before actually having sex. Don't say "I need a strong emotional connection to feel attraction" "I need to befriend a guy before feeling attracted to him" and other varaints, men listen to women on this stuff and will follow the advice. Yes, it may be devastating to women when the guy clearly wants only sex but a lot of the times guys end up in the f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 08:12 AM |
| 8 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?It's women who say they need to know a guy well or even be their friend (demisesexual is such a trendy term among women now) to be attracted to him because they need to know if he's safe and kind. Women often also use this argument to explain why a lot of men don't get likes on OLD. Turns out, women know pretty quickly whether a man is fuckable or not. Maybe if you stopped misleading us about your sexuality many men wouldn't commit such mistakes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?BPers say "women's tastes are as varied as men's ones" to refute hypergamy, the idea that women find few men physically attractive while men find most women physiically attractive. So yeah, BPers do indeed mean women find as many men physically attractver as men do with women, you are proving them wrong. You can call it hypergamy or not, the end results is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Your first assumption is incorrect, women don’t find most men sexually attractive (regardless of feeling of safety). Not to mention, women get far fewer benefits from casual sex if that is the type of sex you are talking about in your post. Statistically women orgasm significantly less than men in both casual and long term relationships, they are also at a higher risk of STDs, pregnancy, and being murdered (if they pick a crazy one); though of course overall longer term relationships have more b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 07:06 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?I mentioned the study just to support the notion that men find most women sexually attractive. The questions are not about having sex or asking out strange women like it happens in the study,. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?"Same women" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Have you read the thread? Please, read the two points and the last paragraph then answer those questions (if you want, of course). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 06:11 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Sorry, it was a typo, I meant "hit on". I know there are some stuff more than looks but many women say they need to find the guy physically attrractive to consider a relationship or hook-up with him. What do you need instead? I see, it makes sense, most partnered men would also be offended if a female friend hit on them as few men are into polygamy. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/21 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?From you experience, the mantra of women's having as varied tasts a men sounds wrong as you seem to find few guys physically attractive, not even your partner was considred among the attractive ones according to you. This is one difference social factors can't explain easily. Also, did those two guys hit on you while you were in a relationship? If not, why was it offensive? | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/21 05:31 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?It follows that the Blue Pill / anti-evolutionary points are wrong according to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 05:18 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?It follows that the BP assumptions are wrong to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?[...] would befriending progressive women to the point where they feels safe being alone with you allow you to get sex as easily as women and gay men can it from froms strangers? Yes, I'm talking about general trends, not every single woman, not even every single man will be down to sex with a strange woman after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 05:08 AM |
| 0 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Please, assume that the premise is valid for the sake of this discussion, this means that women feel safe being alone around the male friend in this scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/21 04:30 AM |
| 1 | A Few Discussion Topics For Ex-Red Pill Men:No, I'm not autistic. I've been to therapy due to my low self-esteem in the past and my good social skills were often brought up by my theapist. Among my male friends I'm even known as the guy you can talk about emotions with, if they feel hurt (ie relationships) they know they can talk to me. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/21 04:23 AM |
| -3 | Are friendships with women a good way to get sex or dates?Why do you think so many women complain, on a progressive platform like Reddit especially (ie, TwoX, AskWomen), that their male friends always end up hitting on them? I can see why they don't want catcalling or street harassment but this is more tricky to explain if we stick to social reasons. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/21 04:05 AM |
| 2 | Can women be as desperate as men are ? Why is it men who are perceived as so?You don't get it, the other user literally said "getting sex is just as easy as men" but we men supposedly don't realize it because we ignore unattractive women according to her, I just pointed out how wrong that is and even mentioned online trends and a real life study (there are many study of that kind with the same results: attractive and unnatractive women can get sex from most men just by asking in public) to support my claim. My point is also such an obvious observation, I'm surprised that… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/11/21 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Can women be as desperate as men are ? Why is it men who are perceived as so?These women also get messages from men who are interested, besides women don't even have to use dating apps, they can just ask people in the streets, men are not picky. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/11/21 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Can women be as desperate as men are ? Why is it men who are perceived as so?Good point. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/11/21 12:49 AM |
| 0 | Can women be as desperate as men are ? Why is it men who are perceived as so?What didn't you understand about "I have many friends"? Why should I even get a cat then? Having friends doesn't meet my sexual and romantic needs, it doesn't make me feel attractive either. I know many attractive men and see/hear other people's experiences (women's especially), attractive men usually want commitment less than women as they already get all the validation and sex they want. Clearly men, when they have as many sexual options and validating feedbacks as women, are not that interest… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/11/21 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Can women be as desperate as men are ? Why is it men who are perceived as so?(Plus I think these men forget it's just as easy for themselves to get laid but they, like most women, have standards, and don't want sex with someone they find ugly or who might be bad in bed, preferably. This is completely untrue, an unattractive woman without make-up can easily get plenty of likes and matches. Most importantly, gay men have the same exact stnadards as traight men as they find most people sexually attractive. As an average or below average man, switch your prefeence from women… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/11/21 12:09 AM |
| -1 | Can women be as desperate as men are ? Why is it men who are perceived as so?I have many friends, I'm still desperate as no woman has ever shown any interest in me in my life, I'd give any woman a chance at this point. I think the biggest factor is that women can get attenion and sex easily and this validates their attractiveness. To prove my point, attractive men who can get sex easily don't usually act desperate for romance (on the contrary, they very often fear commitment) so I think options and validation are the biggest factor in explaining the difference. If I were… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/11/21 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem like women have such an easy time dating on Reddit compared to men?Maybe it's your personality, you are clearly hot. I can make friends easily, social skills can be easily improved with practice. On the contrary, I do not have agency over the amount fo women who are physically ttracted to me, women have quite harsh standards in this regard, meanwhile I could easily hook-up or date with hundreds of gay men if only I wanted to as they have lower standards for the initial attraction. You are like the son of a rich Western man who doesn't know how to use his money … | /r/ExRedPill | 15/11/21 06:57 AM |
| 2 | To males out there, do you get jealous?I don't get jealous of their women, I'm envious of the traits that allow these men to attract women and this in turn makes me sad because it has a negative effect on my self-esteem. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/11/21 11:57 AM |
| 1 | For men who constantly get rejected where did they go wrong and why are they like that?.Would you want to date a woman that no one else would touch? If she's sexually attractive to me, aboslutely yes. I'd say most men would even prefer this over the opposite (most men wanitng her), science supports this as studiesshow other people's attraction to a perons has a way greater positive effect on female attraction than male attraction. Would you date a woman that begged you to date her? (She is almost admitting there is something wrong with her). Absolutely yes, I'd love to be pursued.… | /r/ExRedPill | 14/11/21 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Is Friendship the best way to step into a serious relationship?And what does cause sexual attraction in women? | /r/ExRedPill | 11/11/21 05:09 AM |
| 0 | Should incels become redpilled?Many men like me do not have problem talking to women but do not attract them, many men do not like talking to women but are very sexually attractive to women, this happens because compatibility and attraction are two different things. Again, compatibility and attraction are two completely seprate things, if OP has identified attraction as being the problem rather than compatiiblity I don't understadn what's wrong with asking. | /r/ExRedPill | 29/10/21 07:12 PM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?He's a muscular white man who builds stuff shirtless, I don't understand what you are trying to prove here. He's better looking than 90% of men in America, wouldn't you agree? This guy doesn't have any special skill, he'seven partnered yet all the women are crushing on him in the comments. Mark Zuckerberg is a smart, skilled guy with a passion yet I don't see random women crushing on the same scale. I'm also a software developer like Mark, my peers are usually extremely smart short and ugly asia… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/10/21 12:53 AM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?Gay men face way more discrimination that women for expressing their sexuality, there's a reason why PDA among men is not normal while PDA among women is at least tolerated, despite this gam men still find most men attractive.. I think your first theory makes more sense. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/10/21 03:08 AM |
| 2 | Ideas about the video?Those ideas sound like irrational anti-feminist conspiracy theories. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/10/21 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think that leaning into a mindset that is misogynistic will help them get what they want?I'm not hot, my experience is common to every average man. These gay men message me and are responsive., they don't just swipe randomly. Try switching your preference to men, really. Maybe you won't get male models like I did but you'll at least refute the idea that nobody finds you attractive, it will boost your self-esteem. I'm sure you'll quickly get tons of likes and matches then come back, you'll agree see that the other was 100% right. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/10/21 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Why do men think that leaning into a mindset that is misogynistic will help them get what they want?If you don't put yourself out there, men won't offer you sex. Fortunately we live in a society where men are not allowed to break into women's homes. Just try a dating app and you'll see the other user is right. You'll get thousands of sexual offers from men just like I get from gay men. Ghosting usually happens after some dating has happened, my theory is that your looks is not the problem but your personality. Most men here - including me - can't even get dates at all, it's not at all about ke… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/10/21 07:51 PM |
| 0 | Why do men think that leaning into a mindset that is misogynistic will help them get what they want?You are wrong. I'm also unattractive to women, never had a woman attracted to me, ugly face, never had a date, never received matches for mwomen, but like every average to below average guy I could get hundreds of matches from gay men within a couple of days if I wanted to. Try it yourself, gay men are exactly like straight men, you'll expereince what it means to be an average woman. I literally felt attractive for the first time in my life thanks to gay dudes and experiemtns like this. I receiv… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/10/21 07:38 PM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?Can I tell ya a story? Once a boyfriend of mine picked up a hitch hiker. He was a nice guy, and that lady needed a ride. Turns out she was actually an aging prostitute. He didn't know that until she started touching herself during the ride, trying to get him interested in her wares. He was horrified! Now, would he have been into it if she were younger and prettier? Maybe. but I'm pretty sure part of what turned him off was that she tried to make the exchange sexual before the idea had occurred t… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/10/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Confused. How does a woman's attraction to men work?To get things straight: would you feel more attraction to a good comedian like Aziz Ansari doing a comedy sketch than Zac Efron doing a workout session without shirt? | /r/ExRedPill | 21/10/21 12:34 PM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?I'm not interested in relationships at the moment but I like sex a lot, also I do think people's behaviors are mallealbe, especially at a young age, so behaviors can be learned if one wants to become actually attractive to women. The things you listed fall under the umbrealla of "compatibility" which is very important in a long-term relationship and anyone who has friends understands what it entails but I'm interested in understanding female attraction here, I already understadn male attraction … | /r/ExRedPill | 21/10/21 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Confused. How does a woman's attraction to men work?Sexual attraction? Really? Do you get aroused when you watch good comedians like men get aroused when looking at hot women? | /r/ExRedPill | 21/10/21 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Confused. How does a woman's attraction to men work?What's the difference between a guy who's seen only as a friend and a sexually attractive one though? | /r/ExRedPill | 20/10/21 08:51 PM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?And Jesus Christ, do you think male attention is equally spread among women? I know the stats say men's attention to women is a bit more equally spread - but I think that's because men are hungrier, so they're willing to go for women that aren't their first choice (or eat the peanut butter sandwich if the steak isn't available). Well, I do think male attraction is well distirbuted and my expereince with gay men proves it since most seem to be at least somewhat into me, some are very into me, oth… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/10/21 04:43 PM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?Don't RedPill already accept that? Redpillers always say women are serial monogamists while men are polygamous. The real question is: what do women find attractive? The other user didn't really explain it but everyone can see that fuckboys share pretty common traits and these traits aren't usually traits that scream "friendship and commitment". If you go on the relationship subreddits, the most common issue women compain about is getting attached to guys full of red flags who are able to trigger… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/10/21 02:18 AM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?Thank you, your comment was very informative. Rollo Tomassi wrote in his books and it is often taught in Red Pill spaces that women can want sex only from one man at the time, sexually speaking women are considered serial monogamists while men are consired polygamous in red pill spaces. I always found hard to believe to such a notion because I found the female experience too unrelatable but your comment put it very clearly. Maybe it wasn't you intention but your comment ut has made me realise ev… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/10/21 02:06 AM |
| 1 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?As for op, he's not open to changing his mind. He's all about confirming his own biases. He used to post this very topic on the asktrufemcels subreddit multiple times to the point that the mods had to ban him for spamming the sub. He's like a robot. Your effort is wasted on him, but thank you for teaching me. I wasn't banned from AskTruFemcels even though I did use that sub. Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else, a lot of male celibates posted on that sub, IIRC more men that women posted o… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/10/21 12:15 AM |
| -2 | How to stop treating every girl as an option?I don't think there's something wrong with what you are doing now. You have high standards now thanks to your extreme abundance mindset, to be honest I envy you. If you are a hot guy like you say and have so many options, why should you settle? Be picky. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/10/21 08:27 PM |
| -4 | sad about never having a girlfriendPeople can tell when you want something from them. People don't like it when the only reason you're talking to them is because you want something from them. It is possible to try to hard, to focus too hard on finding love or sex and it comes off as needy. I would replace "people" with "women" . Most men would be happy if they were approached by a woman just looking for sex or a date, men like honesty. I'd even say most men would be happier if a woman talked to them because they are hot and not b… | /r/ExRedPill | 18/10/21 10:17 AM |
| 0 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?I'm not denying that the butabuxx role exist so we need to distinguish between sexual attraction and romantic attraction. In this study, which also includes a replicatrion with a different sample, it was shown that men are much more likely to have sexual feelings for their opposite-sex friend (average score 3.5/7 for men and 2/7 for women) and way, more likely to think their female friend was sexually attracted to them. On the other hand men were as likely to have romantic feelings for their opp… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/10/21 07:37 PM |
| 0 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?Thank you, I appreciate your take! | /r/ExRedPill | 17/10/21 10:48 AM |
| 2 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?You missed the point of the thread. Would you say no to a night with Emma Watson and the other women you mentioned? I'm not saying that all men have the exact same preferences, this would be absurd and I know this very well since I'm more attracted to chubby women for I'm not particularly happy about the current beauty standards pushed on women. What I'm saying is that most men have a basal level of sexual/physical attraction towards most women. I'm sure that you - like me - would have sex with … | /r/ExRedPill | 17/10/21 10:37 AM |
| -2 | What's the actual percentage of people women are physically/sexually attracted to?If it's all socialization it is so ingrained in women that it has become physiological since women no longer experience visceral attraction towards average people, at this point it's not too far-fetched to assume the difference was genetic all along and I wouldn't call out someone for doing so. To give you an example of socialization clearly being a factor, it's pretty clear that the reason why gay men don't cold approach random men nor display their sexuality in public is because society shames… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/10/21 11:49 PM |
| 2 | "You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup:It's your fault. Women always blame men for enforcing unrealistic looks standards on them, this doesn't mean they want to force men to be different. The same applies here, the difference is that most men are unattractive to women, women are actually enforcing unrealtistic standards that make men feel insecure and depressed, not the opposite. Women should blame fashion industries if they feel insecure about their appearance, not men since most men don't have unrealistic looks standards. One could… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:58 PM |
| 2 | "You're an incel 'cause you're an obese neckbeard." Meanwhile at the incel meetup:If they were gay they wouldn't be incel, unfortunately women have unrealistic standards these days. Although I can't date gay men it's always flattering to see hundreds of gay men - of all looks levels - liking me and sending me cute messages on dating apps, meanwhile i'm still waiting my first actual match with a woman. I don't like to be gender essentialist but I think hypergamy is real at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/21 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Why is RP solely based on women and sex?No, the Red Pill is not about hard truths in life, it's strictly about dating. Rollo Tomassi founded the Red Pill with his book "The Rational Male" which is basically an application of evolutionary psychology to dating. | /r/ExRedPill | 25/09/21 10:29 AM |
| 2 | “Women only want Chad” is sheer projectionI don't agree with you at all, I think there's some projection from your part. As a former incel who is still dateless and celibate I can confirm that tons of Gen Z men struggles to get ANY woman's attention. I find 95% of women my age physically attractive yet no woman has ever shown interest in me online (0 matches on OLD) and in real life. No, I don't ignore average women, to give you an example my match rate is extremely high on gay dating apps (like 30%, the same as an average to above aver… | /r/ExRedPill | 25/09/21 09:57 AM |
| 4 | When red pill men say “genuine desire” is the most attractive trait in a woman it reeks of unresolved trauma or childhood lonelinessMost men would love to be compliemented on their looks or the desire they trigger, we consider it genuine attraction. It's not sexism. I went on a gay dating app and received tons of compleiments from gay men, no woman has ever complimented me this way or showed me any interest or attraction instead, I felt attractive for the first time in my life. Women have only complimented me for things I did for them ie. fixing their stuff, let them copy my projects, teaching them stuff etc. Sense of humor,… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/09/21 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingThe study has not been debunked, the study also says there's not a complete reversal, that is rotatiing women are less selective than men who don't rotate but are more selective than men who also rotate. I agree that the article doesn't tell the full story, it's pretty shallow. Another user here posted the figures from the original study (when men rotate -> when women rotate) :Romantic desire: Men: 5.3 -> 5.0 Women: 4.7 -> 4.9 Romantic chemistry: Men: 5.0 -> 4.75 Women: 4.6 -> 4.8 Yessing percen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingThank you for finding the study, your comment is informative. Even if we ignore the gender swap there doesn't seem to be a big difference between male and female selectivity in the before scenario, those yessing rates, those single digit differences are very far from the 80:20 rule we often read here and very different from the match rates straight men have on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingMen valuing beauty doesn't mean they are hypergamous, hypergamy means being attracted only to top members of a a group, it doesn't just mean being more open to date top members of the group than low tier ones. Men are still sexually attracted to less attrctive women, they can settle down very easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/21 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingWhat is male hypergamy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 06:13 PM |
| 5 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingIt's interesting that you talk about female dominated environments at college because I've recently read some very upvoted threads on askmen about the topic. Apparently many men in female dominated fields complain about being hit on too often and even sexually harassed (not as sesiously as women though), for some reason male nurses seem to be particuarly exposed to this. I knew men in healthcare had sex very easily but not to this extent lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingHonestly, I think he's right and I see the same trend on female subs. Generally speaking, women don't like to be approached in public unless it's a clear social setting,d a coffee shop is not a social setting. I think the reason behind this is that women don't like being approached only because of their looks, it's not how their sexuality works and therefore they perceive it as objectifying, this is what approaching women in public is all about since there's no time to build a connection (people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 03:42 PM |
| -2 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingIt’s not really surprising either. The question OP needs to examine is why is men pursuing and women choosing the almost always the default human tendency and what can be drawn from that. I don’t think they actually want the answer though. My explanation? Men are more sexually visual than women are, women generally an meotional conncection to feel sexually attracted to them. As you can see, I'm not into the purely social explanation either but this is different from the blackpill version of hype… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingAs I said to another user, there's already a significant difference between saying "women are pickier because men are expected to approach" and "women are pickier because they are attracted to top-tier men only due to their hypergamous biology". The possible solutions are also different. If you are an average man there's no solution to hypergamy because it's a biological contruct built into women, on ther hand, if the other hypothesis was true, an average man could try meeting women in contexts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 03:11 PM |
| 10 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingThing is, currently both dating apps and in-person interactions usually have the woman as the more passive participant. So the pattern both on- and off-line will largely tend towards women being more picky. It's not often a girl goes around in the suitor role looking for men to date. There's already a significant difference between saying "women are pickier because men are expected to approach" and "women are pickier because they are attracted to top-tier men only due to their hypergamous biolog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 03:07 PM |
| -4 | Women act like men when they switch seats at speed datingHypergamy is real. The only real reason that they are in those speed-dating events are simply because they are out of options and/or view themselves less than the men present. There's no evidence for this, it's just a weak opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 02:21 PM |
| 0 | Question: Who has it easier in finding relationships/casual dating Women or Men?Do you think a lot of guys lie like that or the she was just unlucky? I'm not trying to be querrelsome, I'm sorry if I put words in your mouth, it was't my intention. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/09/21 04:21 PM |
| -2 | Question: Who has it easier in finding relationships/casual dating Women or Men?If they want a relationship it's not lust. It's a problem because it proves hypergamy even in the context of relationships while you were mocking lonely guys just one comment back for saying women have also a way easier time finding men ready to seriously date them, it seems like they were right and your view is the problematic one. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/09/21 02:13 PM |
| 0 | Question: Who has it easier in finding relationships/casual dating Women or Men?We lonely guys also argue that women have an easy time getting relationships too. I see so many women on Reddit saying that they can't make male friends without them falling in love for them, they often get sad about it because they like these guys as friends - these guys are clealry not creeps - but they feel attracted to only a small minority of them which is what we lonley guys also argue. Do you think only a small minoirty of women has this problem? Or is it common? | /r/ExRedPill | 03/09/21 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Dating sucks because single people are like real estate - the best ones taken off the market quicklyWell, I see four users getting triggered over his comment at the same time when harsher comments than his - usually coming from FDSers - are regularly posted here. I'm a bit suprised by this over-reaction but I get your point now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 12:35 PM |
| 2 | Dating sucks because single people are like real estate - the best ones taken off the market quicklyI don't understand, women always talk about low quality, medium quality and high quality men here with the implication that only the latter are worth dating, very dehumanizing, why get triggered over his milder comment? He's just saying that he can go past physical defects which is usually considered a good thing, he can fall in love with uglier women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Question for all, what requirements do you have in a partner and do you think they are unrealistic?M23, height 6'0", healthy bodyfat level, face bottom 15th percentile, college student. My only standards: -cis woman -be friendly to me -below 50 y/o. I thiink these standards are unrealistic for me and a lot of men in 2021. Only gay men have shown interest in me and they meet those standards (except for the first one of couse) and way more than that, I could literally date gay Chad if only I wanted to but unfortunately I'm straight. I think my only solution is to start dating a hetero trans wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Dating sucks because single people are like real estate - the best ones taken off the market quicklyCan you explain me what's wrong with that commnent? I'm genuinely curious, I see three users triggered over it and I can't understand why yet. His commnent is about being humble and realistic in your dating life which is a good thing, isn't it? FDSers are actually mean since they claim most men are genetic garbage and that you should only pursue the top-tier ones, his comment instead shows you can fall for people even if they are not physically perfect to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 05:04 AM |
| 3 | Dating sucks because single people are like real estate - the best ones taken off the market quicklyCan you explain me what's wrong with that commnent? I'm genuinely curious, I see three users triggerd by it. and I can't understand why yet. His commnent is about being humble in your standards which is a good thing, isn't it? FDS are actually mean since they claim most men are genetic garbage and that you should only pursue the top-tier ones, his comment instead shows you can fall for people even if they are not phycially perfect to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's factual. To give you an example, on the FtM subreddit there are regular threads from trans men who start feeling like incels once they start dating, the mods even had to make threads to warn the community about this problem and tell people to stop. It's funny to see people who were previously women accuse women of having unrealistic standards, it reminds me the Spider-man meme. Nothing like that happens on the MtF subrreddit, if anything sometimes it seems like trans women's dating lives ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/21 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou said men can't handle being treated like women which is not true, straight men are being treated way more harshly than women as you admit. Considering that women still have more self-esteem issues than men that make them complain about tiny dating and love related problems despite all their options and positive feedbacks, the opposite is more likely to be true: women would fare way worse than us if suddenly they were in our shoes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/21 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadExactly, i'm enough for gay men, my looktmatch would be enough for straight men but I'm not enough for straight women, so much for equal standards. Moments ago you were telling people the situation is equal for both men and women, "men just can't handle the way women are treated" which clearly is not true. Your last comment disproves your first comment you made: the situation is not equal at all, it's heavily skewed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/21 10:53 AM |
| 1 | Are we less accepting today (of people) then we were 50 years ago?No, we are more accpeting of different people today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/21 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat I am saying that women's sexual standards are way harsher than those of gay and straight men, the situation is not equal at all. Without artificial barriers like marriage we're seeing female sexual hypergamy at play and it enforces WAY harsher standards than those put on gay men and straight women. It's not that men can't manage to be treated like women, if we were treated like women (basically, like gay men treat each other) we would be very happy about it, probably we would take it way be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/21 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Female vs male sexuality: A case studyThe thread being explicit doesn't make it true. Also, IIRC, you once said men who are 8+/10 in the looks department are hounded by women, you also disagree with OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Female vs male sexuality: A case studyI agree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Female vs male sexuality: A case studyHow does all of this explain the patriarchy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThis explains a lot, you should update your dating worldview to current events then. Men are not being judged with the same standards women are being judged today, dating standards are brutal against straight men while it's easier for gay men and straight women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 01:28 PM |
| – | Female vs male sexuality: A case studyIf you were right, why would friendzone exist? The answer that I usually hear from women is that unattractive guys with good personalities fall in the friendzone and that they can immediately tell which guys are attractive enough at first sight. A woman can clearly find a guy funny, nice, feel comfortable with him and not feel the same tingles she feels with Chad when he just looks at her. Friendnzone is not even a rare thing to happen, it's almost a rule and it happesn to average and below aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/21 02:19 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIn your other comments you say that men are in fact not being treated like women, you even suggest that they can't be treated like women because there are biological differences between male and female sexualities. This lead to the my next question: why did you say that men are being treated like women? It's clearly not true, women have the choice and options, many men don't beside their hand, they are not being treated equally at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/21 10:47 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThis is 100% untrue, if women judged men like men judged women in the dating market they would treat men like gay men treat other men. Anddo you know how it feels to deal with gay men in the dating market? It's wonderful. I literally find 95% of women my age attractive. I'm 5'11", fit, below average face, I have never had a woman interested in me sexually or romantically. I'm dateless: 0 matches on dating apps, no woman has ever approached me or shown any interest in real life etc. Yet I can get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/21 07:52 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThis is 100% untrue, if women judged men like men judged women in the dating market they would treat men like gay men treat other men. And do know how it feels to deal with gay men in the dating market? It's wonderful. I literally find 95% of women my age attractive. I'm 5'11", fit, below average face, I have never had a woman interested in me sexually or romantically. I'm dateless: 0 matches on dating apps, no woman has ever approached me or shown any interest in real life etc. Yet I can get at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/21 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Is female sexuality only 'passive' when she is not sufficiently attracted to the man?I think "objective beauty" as you define it is socially constructed, sexual beauty is more biological. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/21 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Is female sexuality only 'passive' when she is not sufficiently attracted to the man?Your argument can be easily disproved by trying any gay dating app. Average men and below average men on gay dating apps have the same match rate that stragith women have on straight dating apps. I get basically 0 likes and 0 matches on straight OLD but my match rate is insanely high on gay old (30&!!), along with this I received so many cute msessages and felt atttractive for the fist time in my life. I also get hit on Reddit and Omegle by strange mne when I show my face but no woman has every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/21 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Is female sexuality only 'passive' when she is not sufficiently attracted to the man?Even if a man and woman of similar genetics and fitness spend the same amount on grooming, the woman may somehow be more attractive in general. Most bi-girls I have known simply felt it took a lot more for a guy to get to an attractiveness level where she got all 'male gazey' about him as compared to a woman This can be easily disproved by trying any gay dating app. Average men on gay dating apps have the same match rate that stragith women have on straight dating apps. I get basically 0 likes a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/21 11:42 PM |
| 28 | Why are single women happier than married women? If so, why do women even bother with men?Exactly. OP's premises in this thread are only half true. Research in the last 50 years has shown single never married women are healthier and live longer than married women but Dr. Lois Verbugge, a researcher from the University of Michigan, has found that both men and women can get health and happiness benefits from a marriage, but women only get the benefits if they are happily married. Men get benefits even if they are unhappy in a relationship. In other words, some women get disadvantages f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/21 09:56 AM |
| 4 | Why are single women happier than married women? If so, why do women even bother with men?The premise behind this thread is only half true. Research in the last 50 years has shown single never married women are healthier and live longer than married women but Dr. Lois Verbugge, a researcher from the University of Michigan, has found that both men and women can get health and happiness benefits from a marriage, but women only get the benefits if they are happily married. Men get benefits even if they are unhappy in a relationship. In other words, some women get disadvantages from marr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/21 09:46 AM |
| 1 | What happens to women and go their own way?Most bachelors don't identify as MGTOW, besides female separatists have been a thing way before MGTOW. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/21 09:33 AM |
| 2 | What happens to women and go their own way?The blackpill states that men are sexually attracted to most women, men don't have to"lower their standards" because they are sexually attracted to most women by dafault. Women have high standards because they are sexually attracted to few men for they can't choose to be attracted to more men. This has nothing to do with wanting or not wanting a relationship, it's like telling an INC man to become sexually attracted to gay men and date them if they really want sex and relationships. Isn't part o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 10:37 PM |
| 3 | What happens to women and go their own way?Is that why men are crying over being alone? Honestly, how many women do you know as friends? If you think that this sub is real life I can understand why you'd think that statement is an argument. 30% of users here identify as blackpilled, there are constant posts of INC men obsessed over their looks and height, do you think such behavior represents the average man? I've never met a man in real life obsessed over their looks to the point of being so insecure about it while many women I met in r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:12 PM |
| 3 | What happens to women and go their own way?Your comment doesn't make sense, if men weren't okay with being unmarried while women were, men would at least want marriage more than women but instead not only this is not true but almost a majority of men prefers being unamrried to being married which directly contradicts the whole premise of this thread. This thread should be deleted or at least edited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 07:18 PM |
| 3 | What happens to women and go their own way?This is opposed to men who seem to have made it a point to find a woman one way or another and are willing to settle down with and marry someone they’re not really into in order avoid being alone and to start a family. Being single is also more accepted and even encouraged amongst women now. It seems it’s men who are afraid of their biological time clock running out. This is not based on reality, we should implement a rule to force OP's to source such generalizations. Studies show more women tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Men here don't chase "all types of women". Otherwise, they wouldn't complain about one type of female.I appreciate your advice but the problem is that I already dress well, I'm the type of person who values fitting as opposed to brand. I usually wear classy button down shirts, now it's hot so I favour linen over cotton. I also wear blazers and other type of jackets like demin our suede ones to add layer over my t-shirts and shirts. It all fits well, I'm picky with shoulder fits, lenght of cloth along the waist and handles etc. I've been weightlifting and counting my macxros for a couple of years… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Men here don't chase "all types of women". Otherwise, they wouldn't complain about one type of female.Should I act more "alpha" then? Maybe use PUA techniques to improve my dominace? I thought that was hated by women, what technique should I use for this makeover? At the moment I treat women like I treat men, I only avoid sexual topics with women but other than that there are not differences. With gay men it's easy, they usually make clear their interest, with women it has never happened, I'm the type of person who waits other people's signals before approaching or escalating but these signals d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:00 PM |
| 7 | Men here don't chase "all types of women". Otherwise, they wouldn't complain about one type of female.Yes, all races, almost all weights (I put the limit at 250lbs), all heights, all income brackets, I'm sure these are statements you have alraady read on this sub. I literally find 95% of women my age attractive. I'm 5'11", fit, below average face, I have a couple of female friends but never had a woman interested in me sexually or romantically. I'm dateless: 0 matches on dating apps, no woman has ever approached me or shown any interest etc. Yet I can get attention from gay very easily when I lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 10:24 PM |
| 1 | It seems well-known that women find "ambition" attractive, but what types of ambition, specifically?Accepting money doesn't imply attraction, accepting sex and doing it enthusiastically does. IIRC you also said money doesn't build attraction in the past so I don't understand why you find his take controversial. Would you rather be in a relationship with a person who was disgusted by the idea of touching you but liked your money or with a person who thought you were the most attractive person in the world but didn't lend you money? Which one is the "purer" form of relationship? The answer is ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI mean. we literally make most of our whole life choices considering how to maintain and acquire sex. You see. money to us have very low value. it is mostly to acquire our survival needs, sexual needs and entertainment. thus we mostly only choose high earning careers for sex. T agree that men have higher sex drives than women but I don't agree with seeing the sexual imperative as main motivator for men's career success. Gay men can obtain sex extremely easy without doing anything yet they still … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 03:06 PM |
| 1 | A man has no value in today's worldI know, personally I don't even want to play that role because I want to date a person who loves me, but BB still works as a role today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 11:13 PM |
| 1 | A man has no value in today's worldThen why do I see so many unattractive average income men with attractive wifes from Eastern Europe and Africa here (Western Europe) and many unattractive high income men doing the same with native women who earn signficantly less than them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 10:24 PM |
| 1 | A man has no value in today's worldYes, there is another option beside beta game but beta game works too and unlike the other option is achievable with enough effort. Beta game is not the best option if you are interested in true romance and privileges like that that but it will still provide you a steady supply of sex and kids. The only thing that has changed is that a random job is not good enough anymore, you need to get an above average job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 07:08 PM |
| 1 | A man has no value in today's worldYou missed the point. Basically no man wants to be needed as a beta provider. Men want to be the hot popular guy who gets women wet in the dating game, men want to be the guy women desire. TheRedPill is all about this and avoiding the beta role. The problem is that most men can't be Chads, beta game is the second - often hated - option one chooses out of necessity. Beta game is more meritocratic, it may be hard to get an above average job in this economy but at least it's possible and thus way e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 06:20 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierThe Rechek & Buss is what I was talking about.I thought I made that clear when I linked the study in previous comment.If you go back, and read the comments, and see what you were replying to, you will see that is what I was talking about the whole time. Also, even with the sciamerica study there talking about the desire to date your opposite sex friend.Their not asking about intiation of friendship because of mateship potential or desire to be in a committed relationship.Those are two different … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 01:43 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierSo there was more single women than men,but there were more men who listed the possibility of romance as a benefit.I'll admit that you right that it's not really 4x as much when you consider number of women and men in the study,but there is still a difference It's far from a 4x difference after we control for relationship status, next thing to tocntrol is relationship status of the opposite-sex friend but the Rechek & Buss study doesn't do that. When you say "young women" what age group are you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/21 11:26 AM |
| 1 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierYes, I know that 48% of the women are in relationships, and 26% of men are in relationships.However, like I mentioned in my last comment, there were more women in the study than men.So when you do the math you will see that there is actually more single women than single men.there 65 women in the study and 29 of them were in relationships.That means that 36 women were single.There were 42 men in the study and 11 of them were in relationships.That means that 31 men were single. The absolute numbe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 12:12 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierWith this question I don't think it is necessary, because their specifically asking about the possibility of romance.If women really wanted a relationship more, than more women would list possibility of romance as a benefit of their opposite-sex friendship.Also, in the study there was actually more single women than single men because of the total number of men and women in the study. There were 42 men and 65 women in the emerging adult group.Out of that 11 men were in relationships and 29 women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/21 04:30 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierthere were 4 times the as many men who said that potential for romantic desire was a benefit of being in an opposite sex relationship.Also, percentage wise over twice as many women said that the potential for an opposite sex friendship to lead to romantic feelings is a cost.Also, I agree that not factoring in the opposite sex friends relationship status is a weakness of the other study I linked.I just misread what you said in your last comment. Controlling for relationship statusi is very import… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 06:44 PM |
| – | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easier Where did the researchers say that in the article?In the article you provided I don't see them mention anything specifically about excluding students who were in romantic relationships.All they said was that if your opposite sex friend shared the same first name as your romantic partner then you will be excluded from the study.That doesn't mean that everyone with romantic partners was excluded from the study. You are right, my mistake, I read the study a while ago. The study didn't include onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/21 01:50 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierEven the studies in the research article you linked still shows that men's self-reported romantic interest was higher than women's.Also, In the second study men did overperceive women's romantic interest, and women did not overpercieve men's romantic interest. The study was published on the journal Personal Relationship and received two peer-reviews. The study says the first difference you pointed out is statistically insignficant, as for the second difference I don't see how it proves that men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/21 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadEvo-psych shows women are hypergamous while men aren't, it doesn't differentiate between gay and straight men to verify whether the difference is aa consequence of men being inhrerently less attractive OR women having higher standards. Gay dating culture seems to prove that women just have higher standards, men per se aren't less attracitve and are perfeclty capable of arousing others easily without being top-tier when they deal with other men sexually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 09:28 PM |
| 1 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierYou are wrong, women just want less casual sex. This is the problem with people not knowing the literature and just citing specific studies without understanding them. Men are much more attracted to their opposite sex friends,and have a harder time being just friends. These studies on oppoite-sex relationships have confirmed that men are more likely than women to experience sexual feelings towards their opposite-sex friend but are just as likely as women to experience romantic feelings toward th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 08:31 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI agree that women are more attractive because of make-up but there's not a significant difference in looks between men and women, it's women having unrealistic standards the main issue. Proof? I'm a straight dude, I have a couple of female friends but never had a woman interested in me sexually or romantically. I'm dateless: 0 matches on dating apps, no woman has ever approached me or shown any interest etc. Yet I can get attention from gay very easily when I look for it. I tried switching my p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadPlease stop saying women don’t want to be approached.. Just like you’re not interested in approaching every woman you see, women will not be receptive to every guy who approaches. False equivalence. Women want to be approached by very few guys or not at all, on the other hand the only reason I don't approach women is because I don't want to make them uncomofrtable, it's not because I don't want to or find few of them hot. It's not even just me, studies show about 80% of men would say yes to a ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 06:45 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen also have lower crime rates, is that a bad trait? Women are better than us in some aspects and worse than us in others, they are not inferior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou sound like a LARP but I respect your take. What you say is exactly what PUAs and various schools of seduction teach yet women hate them, most women don't even watn to be approached, they prefer to meet men in contexts where flirting is not allowed or OLD. If seduction actually made men attractive there wouldn't be so many women opposed to men learning it, There aren't groups of men who get upsted over women trying to look hot for men - except for religious zealots. This is not even about bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo, the same doesn't apply to women. Most women - not only the female equivalents of Chads - are perceived as sexually attractive by straight men by default. The same applies to gay men since most men are perceived as sexually attractive by gay men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/21 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Average/below average women, do you receive lots of attention and validation online? How about in real life?I don't like value judgements but I think you got my previous points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Average/below average women, do you receive lots of attention and validation online? How about in real life?We don't want to appear weak, we hold the protector and provider role in relationships after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Average/below average women, do you receive lots of attention and validation online? How about in real life?That's not true. Yes, testosterone is hell of a drug but we also have the love hormones women have, the only difference is that we take longer to get attached to a woman than viceversa. For example, women release oxytocin - the main love hormone - immediately after sex, we don't but we do release it after spending a good amount of quality time with the woman we like. Romantic feelings, as opposed to sexual feelings, make us vulneable since they are exclusive towards one person which makes it har… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Average/below average women, do you receive lots of attention and validation online? How about in real life?So no male has more than pump & dump relationships with women? Do you realise only a tiny minority of men has casual sex? Most have sx in LTRs. So how do you know all men in your area are so different that they are out there only for pump & dumping? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Average/below average women, do you receive lots of attention and validation online? How about in real life?Yes? Men say it all the time here, just like there are men who instead say they have success with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 12:27 PM |
| 1 | "Ugly" men are just not putting enough effort while having very high expectations.I find 95% of women my age attractive looks-wise but, as I said, I swipe left on women with no or bad bio to me, with translates into a 25-40% swipe right rate depending on the day. On gay dating apps I can swipe right on 100% of profiles and get matches anyways, swiping choices do have some effect on ELO but it's small. What female dating forums are you talking about? I know only FDS and they usually report getting tons of matches, I've never seen any woman saying they don't get matches. The ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 10:35 AM |
| 2 | How do you guys feel about the "mutual phone access" rule in a relationship?I'd have no problem with that, I hide nothing on my phone. My computer desktop? Same, I know how to hide sensitive data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Average/below average women, do you receive lots of attention and validation online? How about in real life?Am I missing something or are most "average/below average" women here reporting that they actually get approached regularly? Then, how can you blame Reddit males for believing it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 09:41 AM |
| 3 | Average/below average women, do you receive lots of attention and validation online? How about in real life?How do you know they want to pump and dump you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 09:30 AM |
| 2 | "Ugly" men are just not putting enough effort while having very high expectations.There are literally online dating experiments in which ugly women on wheelchair get tons of matches, they used to make a lot of experiments like this on the bodybuilding.com forum. Such attention is something that most men can only dream of. Meanwhile on gay dating apps everyone gets matches, my match rate on them is equivalent to those of straight women, I get matches from men of all looks levels. Maybe women should stop going after the top 20% only and this is what the data also says. And by t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 09:06 AM |
| 8 | "Ugly" men are just not putting enough effort while having very high expectations.Your points would be easily disproved if you looked at the Tinder usage data of ugly guys on this sub. I literally find 95% of women my age attractive and most ugly guys here swipe right on most women. I don't swipe right on most women only because I care about people's bios but you get the point. I literally swipe left on attractive women to not waste my likes on them! Oh, you didn't attract men? Well, I do. Currently there are hundreds and hundreds of gay men waiting for me on gay OLD, they al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/21 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?I see. How long does it take you to feel physical attraction towards someone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/21 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Does your aesthetic attraction also appears when looking at other women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/21 09:40 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the discrepancy between the number of sexless men and sexless women?I'm not talking about incidence on the general population, most people don't have too serious problems with dating after all. We were talking about gender differences, Reddit is used by both men and women but it's usually women who complain that men do not commit, men's main strategies on Reddit are aimed at getting sex with the least possible effort instead. This is not even about Reddit, dating books for women deal with how to keep a man (and they sell signficantly more than those aimed at men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/21 09:32 AM |
| 5 | Men who have higher standarts, are more attractiveA lot of average to below average young straight men have literally 0 options today, women - as opposed to gay men - clearly tell these guys they have nothing to offer in the sexual marketplace... therefore ...If these men don't go after very low SMV women with little to offer they become entitled... but ...Going after low SMV women with little to offer also makes you desperate. Where's the solution? I'll tell you: be attractive and then have high standards, don't be unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 11:57 PM |
| 30 | Getting the girls you don't want / Not getting the girls you wantIf you get dates and/or sex but not commitment it's your behavior. If you don't get dates and/or sex it's your SMV. Very few guys struggle with the first issue, this is why men in the pillsphere focus on SMV so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 11:43 PM |
| -1 | What have you learned from PPD that has actually improved your life?Hard disagree. Women on this subreddit are open to discourse, rarely namecall (like women often do on other subs) when faced with opposing views and are more aware of gender dynamics which includes the male experience. I like the women on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Thank you, great answer and examples! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Can you make an example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 11:44 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the discrepancy between the number of sexless men and sexless women?I respect your experience and don't doubt it but a quick look at the most common dating problems women face on Reddit shows that your experience is very atypical while the issue I pointed out is very common among women trying to date. Maybe you have a great personality, not only looks, that makes men fall for you. RedPillers call it RMV, something about you says "good girlfriend material" and guys want that. What FDSers try to accomplish with complex strategies in order to avoid getting "used", … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 10:59 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the discrepancy between the number of sexless men and sexless women?I mean, you just said female humans aren't as attracted to physical "ornaments" as male humans are. Physical "ornaments" matter to women but not as much as they do to men, or am I missing something from your post? Women release significantly more oxytocin than men do after sex, testosterone stunts oxytocin release in men on the other hand. Studies show men want commitment later than women. Men want casual sex relationships (hookups ,FWBs) more than women instead. Talking about anecdotes, very fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 10:19 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the discrepancy between the number of sexless men and sexless women?Interesting analysis. It explains why straight women aren't sex-crazed for hot guys like gay men are. It also explains why women become more attached than men after sex, which probably is the only moment when women's want for men turns into a need (for a specific man though) since evolutionary speaking, as you put it, it is a matter of life or death for women given the consequences of pregnancy. This explains why so many women want to wait for sex sex in order to not get their feelings hurt, a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 09:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?In my experience, most men don't know how to seduce women and get our motors going. Doesn't mean they're incapable, just means they don't know how they're doing it. When they try, it's usually laughable. When they don't try, it tends to work out better, cuz it happens naturally. I appreciate your answer and I find this part of your commnet particualrly intersting: how do you think women are seduced? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 08:26 AM |
| 2 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?That's a more reasonable point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?What different traits do these two groups of guys have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 11:16 PM |
| 3 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Sexuality is controlled by the most primitive parts of our brains, it's not controlled by our over-developed pre-frontal cortex. I'm very curious, how can I change my attraction practically? Let's say I want to become attracted to men because it would make my life easier, a completely utilitarian choice, what could I do in actions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 11:14 PM |
| 4 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?I thought everyone couldn't choose whom they were attracted to until now. Can you choose which people give you tingles and boners and which one don't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 10:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?People can't choose whom they are attracted to, they can only choose whom they engage with. This question is about attraction, not dating strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Your wrote that people who say sexual attraction "are setting themselves up for a garbage life", the act of "setting yourself" implies agency, a choice to pursue an action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 10:45 PM |
| 3 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?I'm asking people what they feel, not what they choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 10:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?What do you think triggers your sexual attraction? What about the romantic attraction instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Thank you. Is there a general set of traits that makes you desire dating a person (romantic attraction)? If yes, would you mind describing them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 08:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Do you think the term "demisexual" describes you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Could you define what romantic and sexual attraction mean to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Where do most red-pillers get their sources from when they site their information?Rollo Tomassi and his books from The Rational Male series. His ideas are influenced by his interpretation of evolutionary psychology (the works of Dr. Martie Haselton appears to have had a particularly strong influence on him) and standard PUA techniques. This is just the core of Redpill belief, with this framework in mind redpillers keep looking for new information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/21 02:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: As time goes on both sexes will drift apart and become increasingly hostile towards each other.I wish it was that easy for us, I'm already fit. You don't have to date a porn addict, date someone who consumes porn with moderation. I guarantee you there are men our there for whom you will be totally enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 08:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As time goes on both sexes will drift apart and become increasingly hostile towards each other.Those men are just bitter because a woman hurt them or don't interact with women a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 10:23 AM |
| 4 | CMV: As time goes on both sexes will drift apart and become increasingly hostile towards each other.If I were gay I wouldn't be in this situation at all, unfortunately this is what it means to deal with female hypergamy yet we are blamed because we don't put the "effort" that women supposedly "put" to attract others. I'm just refuting this narrative. You can call me, an average to below average man, desperate but I don't think women would take the situation any better. Do you think that straight women who have been rejected all their life, have never received any compliment or positive feedbac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 08:24 AM |
| 16 | CMV: As time goes on both sexes will drift apart and become increasingly hostile towards each other.You can't change your facial bones. As a college educated man in his 20s, I can say it's way easier to get a decent job (maybe not a fantastic one) than a date with any woman (attractive women don't even register to me anymore), only escorts are the exception. The same can't be said about gay men, I could get hundreds of gay men - including tons of hot ones - to date me and compliment me within minutes if I only wanted to. I only have to switch my preference to "men" on dating apps and the job i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:29 AM |
| 2 | CMV: As time goes on both sexes will drift apart and become increasingly hostile towards each other.I hope not. I like women's company even though they are not attracted to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:09 AM |
| – | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?The difference is tiny and it's compensated by the fact that slighlty more men aged 40-49 than women in the same age group choose the option "definitely does not want a relationshp". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 12:48 AM |
| 3 | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?Both groups. Your argument is directly refuted by the Pew Research survey OP posted anyways. If you look at the survey, it shows that older people are less likely than young people to say they are not looking for dates because "they feel nobody wants them". The suvey also shows young men and young women choose the reasons for not looking for dates at the same rate except for one, young men are more likely than young women to say they are not looking for dates because "they feel nobody wants them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 12:38 AM |
| – | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?This is mental gymnastics. I'm an involuntary celibate male and I, like most people like me, do want relatiosnships even though I feel like giving up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 12:22 AM |
| – | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?Exactly, but I think it's more 30-49 if we go with the CBS survey I postted as it divies women in more age groups, after all the average age of menopause is 52 - not 40. The Pew Research survey is good but unlike the CBS one it divides women only in two groups: women below 40, women above 40. Both surveys show the same results at the end of the day, older women are significantly less likely to be looking for relationships than older men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 12:19 AM |
| 4 | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?Not having options doesn't imply not wanting a relationship, it's like saying that involuntary celibates don't want relationship. Yours is mental gymnastics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 12:11 AM |
| – | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?Haha, sorry for the accusation! I think Redpill men refer to women over 30 when they talk about post-wall women desperately looking for a partner, not post-menopausal women. Women who can't find a steady partner between 30 and 50 do indeed suffer The Pew Research suvey just debunks the common myth that depictws old single women as crazy bitter cat-ladies, they are not and instead they choose to be alone, but this is not a Redpill belief or at least it's not exactly what the Redpill says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 11:25 PM |
| – | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?Men do experience a drop in sex drive but it's not strong and it's very gradual, men's reproductive window reaches the age of 80 and beyond while women experience a full stop at 50. Men keep actively craving sex in their 50s, 60s and 70s and probably even 80s. Women should know this, creepy grandpas catcalling and creepily staring at hot young women are not that rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 11:06 PM |
| – | Why do single men over 40 desire relationships/partners more than single women over 40?Did you copy my original post from r/AskWomenOver30? I'm flattered! I mantain that the difference is to be attributed primarily to menopause which deeply stunts women's sex drive and in most cases totally kills it, women have no reproductive value at that point and feel less drive to find parnters. I say this because the difference between men and women looking for relationships becomes apparent exactly at the age of 50 which is the average age of menoupase. Look at this GRAPH Source (2015). Thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 11:01 PM |
| 4 | How important is sexual attraction really? 🤔Exactly, the same can't be said about women. I read on AskWomen and even here that most women find 1-5% of guys their age attractive, we straight and gay guys are of couse completely different. I think women are more driven by their vagina than men when it comes to relationships. It's so hard for women to find a sexually attractive man and that's why you see so many women complaining about fuckboys not committing despite these guys being a tiny minority among men and these women having an infini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 09:50 PM |
| 3 | What argument here has changed your mind?This sub has taught me that women want sex much less than men. I already knew women had lower sex drives but I didn't know the diffeence was that big and that sex was such an irrelevant factor in women's lives. Sex sounds almost transactional when they talk about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 10:37 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadDo redpillers and blackpillers really want to re-engineer society? They believe the laws of attraction are based on biology as opposted to socialization, the latter especially. Feminists believe in socialization and that's why they focus on policies and cultural initiatives to change society,. Blackpillers can't imagine solutions while redpillers want to learn how to exploit the system at their advantage, a system that is based on biology and thus can't be changed - only exploited. You attitude … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | New Data from the Telegraph indicate that levels of sexlessness among young men are still steadily increasing, just 34% of male University students report being sexually active while studying at University and 43% report never having had sex.We need to try harder than last time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 09:31 PM |
| – | Red pill users here, what do you define as red pill?Read the sidebar from TheRedPill subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 11:46 AM |
| 3 | Youtube Influencer "Overdose" stupid take on females beeing less secureI've never heard of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 11:45 AM |
| – | CMV: Straight men have it harder in dating than womenFeminsts and women on social media always complain that society enforces unrealistic beauty standards on women, they forget that the fashion industries women finace are tha main culprit - not men. Men, as people often reapeat on this sub, don't have unrealistic expactations for women at all and the dating market proves it. It's the other way around, women enforce unrealistic standards on men. In a sense, people here are like feminists so they can definitely blame women for making them insecure. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 11:33 AM |
| 1 | TRP and TBP have a problem: they both lack balance that the other provides.I agree with OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 11:15 AM |
| 2 | The reason why men don't get sex is because of menHe's a changed man, a true inspiration! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 12:06 AM |
| 1 | The reason why men don't get sex is because of menAs a celibate I think there's some truth in what you write. You have my upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 12:12 PM |
| 2 | The reason why men don't get sex is because of menUgly women can get relationships without plastic surgery, just talk to men, it's easy. Ugly women have an unlimited source of dates and sure, some men will use you for sex but for very 10 men there will certainly be some who will want your for more. You can play the game and if you are good at it you will get what you want, not that it takes much effort since 30% of men 18-30 are virgin, even one "Hi!" from a woman will brighten their day. Below average men can't even play the game given how unr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.I'm a man, I know how our sexuality works: we have sex with people we're sexually attracted to - just like women. I - like most men -- find the average woman my age (M24) physically attractive and so do gay men my age with other men. Men find most women sexually attractive and that's why we like to have sex with most of them, we feel physical attraction to most of them. On the other hand, we wouldn't ever ever have sex with people we don't find sexually attractive, for example other men if we ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 05:47 AM |
| 1 | What would you choose to do or not do if there were no gender roles? How would your life be different and how would it be the same?I'd try wearing makeup to improve my SMV but other than that things wouldn't change much, gender roles have a strong biological component beside the cultural one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadThank you, I appreciate your honesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:44 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI’d say the overlap between the two is maybe 5% of the population? Or 7%? I’m just throwing numbers out, but it’s clearly a minority Could you post percentages for both groups (sexually attractive/all and LTRattractive/all) separately? I don't doubt that finding a partner for women is hard. I think that truly redpill and blackpill guys should know it. Even if one believes in hypergamy, they should know that women don't choose to be attracted to few men. I don't think women live life on easy mode… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:38 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadWhat's the percentage of men women generally find sexually attractive enough? And what's the percentagte of all men women find relationship-attractive enough for a date? I find 95% of all women my age sexually attractive, 10% of all women my age have enough LTR potential that I would consider going on a date with them if I was looking only for a LTR. I'll admit my physical standards are pretty low, for some reason I feel physical attraction to most women my age and I'm not less shallow than othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:24 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadI didn't use Grindr, I used Bumble. My experiments lasted a couple of days and I repeated them a couple of times. When I first create my straight OLD accounts I usually get 5 likes at best in the first two days and than 0 in the following days, weeks and months. I think I would get even better result on Grindr since it's exclusively a hookup app and has more gay users. You said the problem women have is to find someone "sexually attractive" and that only 1 every 100 men might qualify, considerin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadIt has nothing to do with the approacher vs approached dynamic. The fundamental problem is women's hypergamy and I can prove it to you in order to leave out any doubt. The point you make should apply to gay dating apps too, one approaches and then they have to hope the other one reciprocates, do you know what the interesting part is? Gay men reciprocate most of the times when they are in the approached role, the steteotypical woman's role. Gay men, just like straight men, find most people of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareThe vast majority of Zoomer in America know what an incel is, we are talking about boys here, not the average man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareThere’s no declining if crimes in the west at all. Just last year a cop killed a black guy in Germany. You really fail to grasp the point of statistics, don't you? A latino man called me a racial slur some time ago, does it mean racism is booming in the latino community? You really disappointed me with such a statemetn, I don't know if I really want to keep this discusssion on because I don't want to micro-manage your misunderstandings . I'll repost the page and gently ask you to read it. Concer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareViolent crime against women (and men) has been steadily falling down for decades, what are you talking about? Not only that but most violent crimes are committed against men, not women. Men literally treat women better than they ever did and give them preferential treatment. Do you think the ugly dudes playing videogames, as a group, have a high crime rate? This is just about men feeling disillusione about dating and trends do indeed show that dating has become harder if not impossible for many … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareWe can blame women for having unrealistic standards that make men insecure, feminists have been doing it for a long time but things have changed now. The truth is that men have realistic standards for women and fashion industries are to blame if some women are insecure - not men. Today is the other way around for many boys who feel insecure thanks to women. Stilll, all of this doesn't mean forcing women to change, criticism doesn't mean infranging someone's rights. It's not like feminists force … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareBud, you have a lot to learn. Uh what ? No you’re wrong. All the crimes are committed by men against women. Every single time. There’s more feminicides than ever. Abusive relationships. And so on. Women are more exposed to crimes than any other group even throughout history. Just look at the records of the most known serial killers they always targeted women in their most crimes. The 97% in England ? Have you been under a rock ? Men are more violent and are the ones committing crimes against wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareDoesn't that dynamic apply to most men? Unless you are hot (top 15-20%) women will have sex with you only in exchange of commitment benefits, only few men arouse women enough just for sex. You are exposing the average man, not redpillers, with your comment. Few guys can aspire to arouse women regardless of commitment benefits (hugs, emotional connection etc.). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareYou don't necessary need to make a living out of OnlyFans to make it worth the hassle. You can make enough moeny out of OnlyFans to support your finances, pay some bills etc. and most women are attractive enough to do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:39 AM |
| -1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareYou know the vast majority of violent crimes are committed against men, right? So much for sexism! Yet gay men are the most promiscuous demographis and have the most sex despite facing more risks than women. Lesbian women have the least sex of all according to studies instead, it doesn't seem to me that these women are enjoying each other that much despite dealing with less risks than gay men. Crimes are committed by an extremely tiny minority of the population, it hardly applies to all men so i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:24 AM |
| 10 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareUnfortunately I have to agree with all your polnts but point two. Boys these days are aware that women have preferences so they do not think attraction and thus sex from women is a right (unless they are already dating the person, that's indeed a problem). Boys don't think anymore than women are just things without agency to be taken, this is why you always hear today's guys saying women go after good looking guys are money only, they know women are not attracted to them and this means women are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:07 AM |
| 10 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareTrust me, you don't have to worry about that. This generation of girls and women doesn't have to deal with celibates if these guys don't even get a chance. I'm a celibate and not by choice, I can safely say that I've never made a woman suffer any of the usual issues women complain about in the relationship subs and FDS. My secret? I don't get even a chance, women don't have to worry about me and guys like me because we don't inspire attraction in the first place. Think about it: who does inflict… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 06:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedI find 95% of women my age attractive yet I get 0 matches from women. Switched my preference to "men", suddenly my match rate increased to levels comparable to those of an average-to-above average woman and I ended up receivings hundreds of likes from men of all looks levels - including hot ones - along with cute messages in a very short amount of time. Never felt so desired. This is not just me, this is every average man who has tried the gay dating experience. By the way, of the 5% of women I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 09:44 AM |
| 3 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedI agree with you, OP is just angry towards biology so they should blame biology, not technology. Evolutionary psychology would give him a good answer to his woes: not all men are supposed to reproduce. Men and women are extremely different biologically, they have different sexualities, intelligences, abilities and skills due to biological reasons and, in part, social reasons. It's telling that, as a man, I get 0 likes on straight OLD but ìmy match rate is the same as an average to above average … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 09:35 AM |
| 5 | Having Standards is a Good ThingI think almost all people are like you, even on this sub. The difference is that some people find a large pool of people attractitve while others find less people attractive enough to date them. I find most women my age dateable but none of them wants me, this doesn't mean I don't have options. From what I've seen, most gay men my age would date me but - as a straight guy - I prefer to be alone than date another man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Having Standards is a Good ThingExactly. Hot men don'ì care if some women have very high standards because they fit the standards of many other women, average women don't care if some men have high standards because they fit the standards of many other men. The exceptions are certain radfems who think men enforce unrealistic standards of beauty on women and thus,they think, expect to date only hot babes because of PoRn. It's average men and very unattractive women who usually feel personally attacked by other people's standard… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 06:53 AM |
| 3 | CMV: social media and online dating have completely destroyed the dating market, it cannot be repairedYour argument may apply to average men but online dating and social media have definitely improved dating for average women and hot men. If you are struggling, it doesn't mean other demographics are struggling. This is by far the best era in human history to be a shy hot guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 06:37 AM |
| 2 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.My experience says the opposite, there are many nice and humble attractive women and men just like there are many arrogant unattractive men and women, and viceversa. Be honest: do you have an active social life and regularly interact with attractive people on a personal level? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.I don't think there's a significative difference in behavior between attractive people and unattractive ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.Can the same be said about other things? If you lift weight just to look hotter to women it won't work, if you undergo plastic surgery just to look hotter to women it won't work, if you improve your social skills just to get better at dating it worn't work etc. Of course that reasoning doesn't apply to the examples I've just made. The point is that niceness is clearly not a behavorial cues that attract women, intentions are irrelevant in what works and doesn't work - this is not a class on moral… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 10:51 AM |
| 12 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.It is not normal or typical to have a large portion of people feeling sexually interested in you if you look average or below average...Gender is irrelevant in that Don't be dishonest with your gender neutral approach. Expect to be friendzoned if you are an average to below average looking straight man. The same can't be said said about straight women and gay men. I'm a straight dude, I have a couple of female friends but never had a woman interested in me sexually or romantically. I'm dateless:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 10:43 AM |
| 1 | The nice Guy vs The virtuous ManAre virtuous men getting more laid that non-virtuous men? Absolutely not, stop assigning moral value to attraction. This is not a class on ethics or religion, this is a sub meant to discuss dating. Attraction doesn't follow morality, niceness isn't a factor in attraction regardless of intention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 10:31 AM |
| 3 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?Why should society stop functioning? Japan and Northern Europe have the highest rates of sexless men and these countries are the best in the world to live in, there's not correlation between sexlessness and quality of a society. Stop with this childish tantrum, if not having sex makes you want to shoot chad and stacies you are the problem. I'm a kissless virgin at 23, I'm not happy about it, I feel a lot of envy towards women, I feel very frustrated whenever I think about my romantic and sexual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 10:26 AM |
| 3 | CMV: For the majority of straight men younger than 50, self-worth is directly and primarily tied to how sexually successful they perceive themselves to be.If you can't find the paper, here is an article that delves into these studies. The researchers conduceted three diffeernt studies and all confirmed the same results, it's high-quality data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 03:50 PM |
| 3 | CMV: For the majority of straight men younger than 50, self-worth is directly and primarily tied to how sexually successful they perceive themselves to be.Research suggests men and women base their self-worht on relationships at the same rate but they do it for different reasons, men gain self-worth from the social status that dating a woman gives them while women gain self-worth from the connection they have with the man they are dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 03:36 PM |
| 3 | Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.You aren't making critictims towards men for having unrealistic standards of beauty with this thread, you are critizing men for thinking niceness will get them casual sex and you are blaming movies for it. You have now conceded that these movie depict women wanting nice guys for serious relationships, not casual sex, which defeats the purpose of your thread. You can open a new thread and title it "Men have unrealistic standards of beauty in dating because of anime and movies". Considering that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.And in those movies the cheerleader then gets in a serious relationship with the nice guy which, as you said, is what women ultimately want so where's the lie? Aren't these movies depicting what you say women want? In these movies, unless they are comedies, the nice guy isn't having tons of causal sex with several women, instead the nice guy forms a serious relationship with the cheerleader usually at the end of the story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.You are contradicting yourself which, again, shows that the misunderstanding is caused promarily by what women say they want. You say women don't have casual sex with nice and kind guys but do want them in a relationship, yet you talk about a cheerleaderr "dating" the hot quarterback and not the nice guys which implies that women having casual sex and forming relationships with less nice and kind guys who are hot is also to be expected. I'm confused by what you say women want, men are confused b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Men here are getting their ideas of female nature from porn and porn-related things.Men only started saying “Nice Guys Finish Last” because incels are mad that opening doors doesnt open legs, even though women never told them being nice would get them noncommital sex. 1) No, women usually say the reason they have high standards for casual sex is because of safety concerns and because they need/want someone kind enough to understand how to communicate and thus please them sexually (just go on TwoXChromosomes or ask the average liberal woman on a college campus on about it), a ni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Explain to me how an older man manipulates a younger woman (18+)That's a better point, there are many theories and models that researchers use to explain the results of their experiments and data on dating, one of them is sexual economics which often works well but sometimes doesn't work as well. It wouldn't be fair to teach kids only this theory and a full lecture on all theories trying to explain dating and human sexuality wouldn't fit in sex ed classes for kids. I just disagree with the whole "inappropriate" argument you used before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Explain to me how an older man manipulates a younger woman (18+)He didn't say we should teach kids "how to date", he said we should teach them about the sexual marketplace which is an actual theory in evolutionary psychology, usually it's called "sexual economics theory". This is biology, nothing inappropriate about biology. Talking about condoms and masturbation like sex ed currently does with 12 y/o kids seems more "inappropriate" to me if we must use such a term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Lowering your standards is for desperate people. Those who don't mind being alone don't have to lower their standards.But we do not talk about some woman in particular, individual preferences are a thing, it wouldn't make sense to build an argument around that. We talk about all women. I wish it was just "some" woman rejecting us for our looks. Feminists constantly push the idea that men enforce unrealistic looks standards on women and shame us men for that. Considering my experience with both gay men and straight women I can safely say young women are pushing unrealistic standards on men in 2021, if I were gay… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Explain to me how an older man manipulates a younger woman (18+)What in the actual fuck?????? 12-year-olds shouldn't "have an understanding of the sexual marketplace" they're children. They shouldn't be dating or fucking or doing anything in that neighborhood because they're literally children. To think otherwise is sick. What are you even talking about? I agree with him, your overraction is quite weird to be honest Where do you live? We had sex education at school when I was 12, all my peers had a developed sexuality at athat age and masturbated to porn. If… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 09:11 PM |
| – | "men don't take good pictures of themselves, men don't dress fashionably, men don't work on their personality" is BS. Truth is, female taste rules the dating market.What do we misunderstand exactly? Not trying to debate you, I'm genuinely curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Understanding Female Intrasexual CompetitionI know it's obvious but from your comment it seemed like you put more importance on actions than looks. The distinction between arousal and attraction needs to be reminded more often on this sub. If she (or he) doesn't find you hot immediately there's very little you can do, if she finds you hot you just need to not f**k it up or learn some basic game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Understanding Female Intrasexual CompetitionI think you are mistaking attraction with arousal. As a man, of course just glancing at a hot woman in the streeet is not likely to turn me on but the attraction is still there, she telling me dirty things or touching me is what ultimately turns me on but the attraction needs to be there from the beginning.A man or an anorexic woman could do the right things but not turn me because the attraction is not there from the beginning. Actions build arousal, not physical attraction. You can't have sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexA 30% success rate through daygame is insane, how did you approach her exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexWhere did you approach them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI can empathize, it felt weird to be desired, not because I didn't like it - I did like it - but because, as a straight guy, it was a completely novel feeling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 09:28 PM |
| 15 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYes, I am. They behave like us straight guys, it's not like their sexuality works differently aside from orientation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:15 PM |
| 26 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThey date/sleep with guys around their own league. This is where you lose your credibility. I'm your typical woman-repellent hetero guy: never had a woman interested in me, 0 matches etc. but I manage to get a lot of attention from gay men of all looks level when I look for it. My match rate is insanely high on gay dating apps (40%, average to above average woman's match rate), I get tons of compliments from gay dudes on OLD and they go even out of their way to message me on other platforms when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Lowering your standards is for desperate people. Those who don't mind being alone don't have to lower their standards.I'm not disputing your experience, in fact your answer is exactly what I expected. Men and women are very different biologically (and socially), there's no need to enforce my preferences on women, it would be absurd. What irks me is when some women, usually liberal feminists who believe in blankslate-ism, blame men's subpar sexual performances for women's lack of interest in casual sex. This bugs me because, as a man, I'd be very aroused just by kissing a woman and touching her naked body while … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:09 PM |
| 0 | Lowering your standards is for desperate people. Those who don't mind being alone don't have to lower their standards.That's interesting. The need for sex has been a constant for me since puberty, my desire for a LTR has instead become strong only recently (I'm in my mid-20s). After all I feel lust very often but VERY rarely experience romantic crushes, I prefer it to be this way since the latter can be emotionally draining and last a long time. If I could chose between a romantic partner and multiple FWBs I'd choose the second option and I believe most guys my age would do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 01:49 PM |
| -2 | Lowering your standards is for desperate people. Those who don't mind being alone don't have to lower their standards.Masturbation helps but doesn't solve the problem. Men, or at least most men, get very aroused at the sight of a naked woman in real life, add in scent, physical touch, sound , sexual validation and you can more easily understnad why sex is hard to replace for men. Physical sesnations around the penis are a tiny part of this, a hand can sometimes feel better than a vagina but usually you aren't very aroused in front of your hand but you are in front of a naked woman. Porn simulates sex but it bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 12:54 PM |
| 1 | People are allowed to have ridiculously high standards if they want to, even if it doesn't suit your own tastes.Everyone is allowed to do anything they want with their body, almost nobody disputes that. Maybe your should rename the thread "People shouldn't be criticized for having ridiculously high standards", this way you would be actually making an interesting point instead of stating the obvious. I think everyone should be allowed to do anything they want with their body but I also believe it's okay to judge someone's standards. Wouldn't you judge a man who goes after gold diggers or a woman who only l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 12:28 PM |
| 0 | Lowering your standards is for desperate people. Those who don't mind being alone don't have to lower their standards.Yes, I'm desperate for sex and most men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 12:22 PM |
| 1 | The average woman is more attractive than the average man, but NOT because she’s actually more attractiveActually, society tells us that being gay is taboo. So more gay men would be attracted to an average man (of any sexuality) since they have less options (much less out of closet gay people than straight/closeted people) they have to lower their standards. In addition, they are also rocking a similar boat with how society treats men (less sexualized and objectified than women) but the difference here is that the people that they are seeking (also men) are on the same playing field . This is dispr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Could this be the problem so many men struggle with women?Almost 1 every 3 men aged 18-30 is virgin in America, they don't even get to the sex. Making a woman orgasm is the last of our problems, we unwanted men can't even get one date. I read a couple of books on female sexual pleasure written bysex theapists, I watched different videos from women on how to perform oral sex and, finally, I often read women's complaints on men's sexual performaces. I know how to make a woman orgasm from a theoretical standpoint but this won't get me dates let alone sex.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 02:36 AM |
| 1 | The average woman is more attractive than the average manThis post is easily, easily disprove by gay men. On gay dating apps, every man - even average ones and below average ones - gets a chance. I was shocked by the huge amount of matches and compliments I got from gay men on gay OLD, needless to say that I get 0 results with hetero women. I was getting 40 matches a day on gay Bumble, I get about 4 match a month from women who don't even write to me (only women can initiate conversations on Bumble), I got 100 matches with women in one day while using… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 02:26 AM |
| 1 | The average woman is more attractive than the average man, but NOT because she’s actually more attractiveYet the average man is considered sexually appealing by gay dudes. I'm your typical woman-repellent hetero guy: never had a woman interested in me, 0 matches etc. but I manage to get a lot of attention from gay men when I look for it. My match rate is insanely high on gay dating apps (40%, average to above average woman's match rate), I get tons of compliments from gay dudes on OLD and they go even out of their way to message me on other platforms when I show my face. This is not just me, this i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 02:15 AM |
| 1 | BE HONEST: what's your success/rejection ratio in real life?Great take, you clearly did you homework! I'm curious now, what's your "indirect" opener at bars? | /r/seduction | 26/05/21 03:28 AM |
| 3 | BE HONEST: what's your success/rejection ratio in real life?I think it's highly contextual. Daygame can also be 1/100 because it's not well-calibrated while other forms of approaching and meeting women can yield different numbers. | /r/seduction | 26/05/21 01:14 AM |
| 1 | BE HONEST: what's your success/rejection ratio in real life?How and where did you approach women? | /r/seduction | 26/05/21 12:48 AM |
| 2 | BE HONEST: what's your success/rejection ratio in real life?How many women have you approached/asked out? | /r/seduction | 25/05/21 11:15 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooThank you, I appreciate the empathy you are showing me. I've improved my clothes and physique, I can only exapnd my social circle at this point which is something I've been doing for a while. I'm in STEM so I do not meet many women through school, women in my friend groups are not interested in me, I've been volunteering for a while to meet new people and even though I fall in love with activity (I help children with learning disabilities) I didn't meet anyone besides women my mom's age through … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 09:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooWould you feel safe getting drinks with these men? Would you worry about being roofied? I wouldn't feel unsafe around those guys because I know that 1) statistically speaking that sort of assault is rare and 2) gay men can find sex easily elsewhere, there's not shortage of men sexuallly attracted to you in the gay community. I can't see myself having drinks with a gay guy whojust hit on me anyway, I wouldn't feel unsafe but, similarly to you, I'd definitely feel very uncomfortable. I don't want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 09:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooSorry, I still don’t know how to quote on my mobile app, so that’s probably annoying. No problem, your comments are clear and easy to understand. One thing I would tell myself if I go back in time is to not place so much importance on sex and relationships and putting so much of my self worth in those. I know that’s easier said than done though. I’ve said in another post that when you’re young it’s really hard to see outside of your bubble. Unfortunately time and experience is the only way. I ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 09:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooAlso about the whole gay men hitting on you thing. Sure, it’s flattering when they tell you you’re pretty, but not so much if they start saying things like how they want to suck your dick or stick their penis in your butthole lol. What if they grabbed your butt in public or tried to cop a feel. Still flattering? I don't want any stranger to grab my butt, neither women nor men, data already shows men are at signficantly higher risk of facing violent crime by strangers than women. Explicit verbal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 08:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooEven though women - on average - have more anxious attachment styles (men have more avoidant attachment styles than women instead), your experience doesn't surprise me since longitudianal studies show people tend to have more anxious attachment styles when they are young but transition towards more secure and avoidant attachment styles as they get older. I'm glad that you are happy with your situaion and I hope I'll become like you when I get older but right now I just can't see myself dying wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 08:19 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooYou don’t think men have ridiculously high standards? I told you, hundreds and hundreds of gay men find me physically attractive so no, men do not have high standards. I receive positive feedback from gay men of all looks levels - including hot ones. They are physically attracted to me, give me compliments, are interested in talking to me romantically, it's a good feelings to be honest. Unfortunately I'm straight so I can't take advantage of this pool, my only goal at this point is to just get o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women too"Unfair"? Most women complain about having too many of options, no woman has basicallly 0 options like many men do. And I'm not talking just about sex. I agree that men - on average - are more violent than women, most of this violence is also committed against other men. Ironically, Ellior Roder and Alek Minassian killed more men than women in their incel rampages since they both wanted to extermiant "Chads" and "Stacies". I don't agree that women are more resilient than men on this aspect of li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 06:47 PM |
| 3 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooYou are making it look like it's equally unfair but it's not. Women make dating very unfair, not men. Women have unrealistic standard, not men. As a straight guy I could easily get hundreds of dates with gay men if I wanted to, it's not hard to find a gay dude intersted in sex or an actual conversation to build a romantic connenction - unfortunately I'm straight. Meanwhile I've never been on a date with a woman, I've always been rejected, I usually get one-worse reponses at best. My goal at this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 06:33 PM |
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