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Words may help but progressive action is the only way. If you’re afraid to swim saying “I can handle swimming” won’t do much. You need to go to the pool or lake, wade in and get comfortable. Progress to dunking your head in then floating on your back in shallow water. Progress to shallow swimming and get a coach of you need one. Or you can do what my mother did and just get thrown in the pool. I figured it out. Point is OPs advice is only 25% of dealing with fear.
/r/seduction06/12/20 12:40 AM
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I don’t disagree at all. But it’s a soft ownership that the kid was talking about. As far as human ownership of course it’s all over the world. In the US where I’m at it’s currently illegal in the classical sense of the word of the civil war south. Of course legality doesn’t encompass all. That would be a dumb claim. The legal responses I gave were based on your examples of loans and taxes. And as far as children go the notions we currently have in the West about parental ownership of children, …
/r/seduction03/12/20 03:15 AM
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It’s a fallacy to say it’s illegal to own another human? Which one? Law of excluded middle? Equivocation? Red herring? I gave examples of those operating outside of “ownership”. To your examples of loans and taxes these are not forced upon you. You can live outside of that if you truly wish to. You take out a loan you are agreeing to a responsibility to pay it back. That isn’t ownership or belonging. That’s a choice you made with consequences if you go against your legally binding agreement. To …
/r/seduction03/12/20 02:06 AM
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Lol. You just described 3/4 of the planet You know who else uses passive aggression? Women
/r/seduction03/12/20 12:34 AM
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You said previously “you’re the prize” Here now you’re saying “what you’ve described is what it’s like to be the prize” I didn’t describe what it’s like to be a girls turn because one, I’m not a girl and two, nobody asked me. But if I had to imagine it would be a mixture of excitement and disappointment. “She’s not yours/just your turn” is a mindset of guys who put women in a seat of power. These hoes have no real power. Especially if you know how to take the power out of their pussy. You said a…
/r/seduction03/12/20 12:29 AM
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Nope. See those are choices. You can’t choose to own someone or belong to them except in some far out cases where deep psychological issues are present. It’s literally illegal. As far as not paying this or that; my neighbor has taken her house off the grid as far as electricity goes. My friend Sam isn’t owned by anyone. He built his own house in the woods and owes nothing to anyone. Just a couple of examples. I brought up literal belonging/ownership as that’s the words that were used. I can’t ex…
/r/seduction03/12/20 12:14 AM
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You don’t get it. So you’re saying it’s not submissive to be her next? Nah. Read what I said again homie. Tonight is Becky’s turn at trying to win my attention. On Thursday is Lisa’s turn at trying to win my approval. On Saturday is Susan’s turn at trying to win more of my time. If you’ve got more than one woman sweating you, you know what I’m talking about
/r/seduction03/12/20 12:00 AM
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Yes, I was going to get into bdsm but that’s a huge topic on its own with deep psychological capacities. I was going off what you said. There’s no way to interpret what you mean. Just say what you mean to say. And I agree with the base sentiment that romantic love is an illusion that people choose to participate in thus making it seem real. But the fact is, that romance as we know it is a cultural fabrication. Go find a non-industrialized, non-media influenced tribal culture in Brazil. They will…
/r/seduction02/12/20 10:15 PM
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So it’s cynical to think human ownership (the other end of the rope to belonging to someone) is a bad thing? Wait you probably didn’t mean it in such a literal way of physical belonging. Maybe you meant just belonging to someone with regard to your autonomy? Still too literal? Well that only leaves the romanticized idea of “belonging” to someone; and while fun and all isn’t objectively real. It’s a culturally manufactured poetic illusion. Fact is, unless you’re a slave or a child under the age o…
/r/seduction02/12/20 09:18 PM
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“Hope they like that”? Why is a King hoping a subject likes them?
/r/seduction02/12/20 05:36 PM
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Sure you can want it but in reality it’s an illusion
/r/seduction02/12/20 05:34 PM
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Wrong mindset. You’re not hers. It’s just her turn.
/r/seduction02/12/20 05:33 PM
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Birthday suit ftw
/r/seduction11/10/20 01:40 PM
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Osho is the bomb
/r/seduction04/10/20 04:18 PM
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An important factor to consider is figuring out where and why you developed the need to be approved of. Another aspect is to realize that no one is coming to your rescue. You have the responsibility of becoming your own Superman
/r/seduction04/10/20 04:18 PM
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Yep. There is no rest. No breaks.
/r/seduction28/09/20 10:07 PM
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And I mean that from my own perspective too. Having sex with women is part of the vetting process
/r/seduction28/09/20 02:26 AM
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Shid...even if you’re sleeping together doesn’t mean you’re dating
/r/seduction27/09/20 07:06 PM
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In short be James Bond (Sean Connery Version)
/r/seduction18/09/20 06:20 PM
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100% It is the plague of perpetual preparation (say that five times fast, lol). You can watch 1000 videos and 1000 books about surfing but none of that will help you until you get you and your board in the water and get at those waves. Once there, after a little while you’ll come to realize that all that information is actually holding you back with too much consideration for fear of not getting pounded by waves. It’s gonna happen no matter what you do.
/r/seduction16/09/20 01:22 PM
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This is spot on correct. The issue most young guys have IME, is they have been conditioned from birth to be in their feelings and seek the approval of others as a barometer for self acceptance. Social media culture and online dating compounds the issue in the forms of likes, followers and matches. When one is conditioned to pay attention to the validating actions of others and it does or doesn’t happen, you either get soul crushing anxiety (bc momma isn’t there anymore) OR a false sense of impor…
/r/seduction15/09/20 09:46 PM
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It’s a process that takes anywhere from months to years depending on individual factors and hindrances. No quick trick to becoming a man
/r/seduction12/09/20 12:33 PM
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Seems you don’t have knowledge of women. Don’t know how to lead the convo to what you want. Which means you are disconnected with who you are and your sexual nature
/r/seduction12/09/20 03:58 AM
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Snapping isn’t conversation brother. You need practice. Go and make small talk with people IRL. You’re not gonna develop a mouthpiece by playing COD all day.
/r/seduction12/09/20 03:42 AM
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The simplicity is hard to get to for most young guys these days. They are too much in their heads and feelings and not enough in their balls. The next question is: “well how do I get in my balls?” Stop thinking so much is the answer. A tiger doesn’t ask himself “what must I do to catch the gazelle?” It just does it. It makes the kill sometimes and other times it goes hungry. It doesn’t care bc there is always tomorrow.
/r/seduction12/09/20 03:36 AM
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Agreed. Guys be thinking way too much about this shit in an attempt to avoid rejection
/r/seduction11/09/20 09:56 PM
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Seduction can’t “turn into” simping. A happy medium between being a simp and not? The fk is that?? Giving attention isn’t bad. It’s the currency of women. You simp when you get emotionally invested and put the girl in the place of importance. Jesus- you guys simply gotta stop reading tons of crap on the internet and stop trying to be ultra prepared before talking to women. Just get out there and do it. Be cool. Don’t be weird.
/r/seduction11/09/20 09:54 PM
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Fair enough. However if you’re active in developing the execution of seduction it can’t be done from an armchair
/r/seduction11/09/20 01:22 PM
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I dont think it’s about power at all. He just doesn’t know what he’s doing. A random and sudden “what’s your name” is totally weird
/r/seduction10/09/20 06:09 PM
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See my post above. This is why it’s important to respect the woman’s time and space. He should excuse the intrusion, be a gentleman and introduce himself. Be clear as to why he’s approached you and be brief about it.
/r/seduction10/09/20 06:07 PM
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No. Just no. It’s completely unnatural to walk up to a complete stranger and have the first thing out their mouths as “what’s your name?”. This never happens outside kindergarten. What you do is use some common sense: you see her and if she’s walking or in the middle of something, politely excuse the intrusion (which shows that you respect her time and don’t see her as a belt notch toward you conquering your social anxiety). Next you introduce yourself and then tell her why you are interrupting …
/r/seduction10/09/20 06:01 PM
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What’s the point? Why do you need to know these things? Is it so you can insert yourself in an attempt to calculate your potential success before even trying? Dude, it’s women. Not a fkg lab experiment. Spending time with women is supposed to be fun! Get out it your head and into your balls. Aside from improving your circumstances for yourself, the only thing you need to learn is how to have fun, be fun to spend time with, and how to turn a woman on with your words. All this “research” is just s…
/r/seduction09/09/20 10:16 PM
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This exactly
/r/seduction09/09/20 10:10 PM
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My point is if you make no effort, nothing will happen. Flirting isn’t women falling in your lap either. If they make it to your bed, then you will have had to exert some effort unless you’re Chris Helmsworth. (Good job with the weight loss)
/r/seduction08/09/20 08:46 PM
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Who said it’s all consuming? Some guys are and they usually have emotional problems. Most don’t I suspect. Going with the flow of life is part of it but I don’t know what you mean. You could be too passive. On another angle it could mean doing your own thing and if a woman crosses your path you talk to her. Depends on what you want. But let it be known women won’t fall in your lap. So either you know what you’re doing and getting women is no big deal to you bc it’s easy or you use this perspecti…
/r/seduction08/09/20 08:03 PM
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Once again. Good job.
/r/seduction07/09/20 10:13 PM
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Yes. Women should be the maraschino cherry on top of your sundae of life. But most young guys make it the other way around, with a bowl full of cherries and a dollop of ice cream on the top. Smh
/r/seduction07/09/20 02:45 PM
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Many times it’s to get guys to subscribe to their “premium” snap content or what’s funnier it leads to chatting where they sell themselves as a prostitute. No problems there- I think prostitution should be legal. But these idiots have guys go to a link to enter their credit card number to “secure the meetup”. 😂 What’s worse is that I bet these women make tons of money off of choads
/r/seduction07/09/20 02:22 PM
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You bet. Keep up the good work on yourself. Just bc you have a woman doesn’t mean you can let up
/r/seduction05/09/20 08:46 PM
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This is all great advice. Congratulations for seeing the truth of things in such a short amount of time. I have one caveat (or at least a clarification so people don’t misunderstand you: Showing your feelings. What you described was not showing your feelings. Feelings are for when you’ve vetted enough women and have found one that deserves more of your time and attention. What you described is showing your intent and interest. And this absolutely must be done directly and casually. I’m saying th…
/r/seduction04/09/20 02:43 PM
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/r/seduction02/09/20 06:19 PM
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Works for me. Shit, you don’t even need to work out
/r/seduction02/09/20 05:54 PM
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Curious- how old are you? I’m not knocking age, I’m curious
/r/seduction02/09/20 05:51 PM
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Many times this is true. Sometimes it’s not. For example, when dealing with guys it’s sometimes helpful to be encouraging and supportive. Other times those guys need a punch in the chest. Socially speaking though this is 100%. You get more flies with honey as they say...
/r/seduction01/09/20 09:00 PM
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Yeah you did good in the sense you know what’s working for you and where you messed up. She was literally laying her pussy on a platter for you to take. Take this as a learning lesson (which you have) and understand that it wasn’t a fluke. You are probably naturally attractive. You just gotta learn to trust your gut and not think so much and just act.
/r/seduction31/08/20 02:36 PM
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Old school nonsense
/r/seduction31/08/20 02:34 PM
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I see. I stand corrected. I assumed you responded and after reading again I see you were merely describing what she had said. I can and do fault people for being emotionally vulnerable. Who’s job is it to protect that? Certainly not the woman they are talking to. So who then? It’s the self. Your boundaries are your own responsibility. Young guys simply don’t know much about this game and think if they are nice they will be treated nice. No. A man who stands on his name and has boundaries will be…
/r/seduction31/08/20 02:51 AM
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Sure you have. Didn’t you regale us with a story about how you were manipulated and guilt tripped by your former girlfriend? This is by definition, operating on her chessboard and not your own. In having principles and codes, manipulation is seen from a mile away. It wouldn’t have gone as far as it did. Like I said, you did the right thing by telling her no. When she came back you could have laid out what her acceptable behavior would be but you didn’t. You let her get in your head. Ie: operatin…
/r/seduction31/08/20 02:29 AM
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It’s not about what I see. It’s about what you see as a man. But if a male has no chessboard, doesn’t know himself then he has no means of filtering and just accepts what’s handed to him. And I would say yes you’re wrong but not because you don’t see what I see but bc you haven’t taken the time to discover and develop what you want to see and end up defaulting to a woman’s chessboard
/r/seduction31/08/20 02:01 AM
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Yes I’m condescending. It’s just how I am. Doesn’t change the facts. A woman will only do to a man that which he allows. If you allow something it’s your own fault. Blaming someone else for something that could have been avoided is nonsense. Calling victim shaming is nonsense. Men take responsibility for their choices and actions. If you had a male friend or colleague treated you the same way your woman did would you stand for it or would you have checked him at the door? Women are the same.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:56 AM
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Not perceiving something correctly is your fault.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:50 AM
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And that’s what you don’t get young man. It’s all about creating your own reality as a man and living in it. As I say often: if you’re not operating on your chessboard, you’ll be operating on someone else’s. And in the case of this sub where we’ve got lots of young guys who don’t know themselves and don’t know women, they end up operating on women’s chessboards. Which lands them here asking questions about “game” and what tactics they can use to feel better about themselves or what they can do t…
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:47 AM
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This whole sub is indicative of a mass (most but not all) of guys who largely don’t know themselves or women. Otherwise they wouldn’t be here. So taking their “votes” into consideration is moot. I wholeheartedly live by what I wrote. I know my codes, rules and principles. Any women who spends time with me operates on my chessboard. If they don’t like it, that’s fine and they are free to go about their business. They are just a woman. Having principles isn’t being insecure. It’s one of the many t…
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:37 AM
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Then they aren’t your friend. They are something else. One party or another will catch feelings eventually. I choose not to fuck my friends. I prefer to keep it simple. But if it works for you so be it
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:32 AM
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All I can say is I hope you see how things really are in time.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:18 AM
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Sure but only the ones you don’t want to fuck. I have plenty of female friends. I find none of them attractive. If you want to fuck them and they don’t know it you’re being a dishonest coward and looking for an “in”. What YouTube game guru did you hear that from 😂
/r/seduction31/08/20 12:53 AM
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Why would I care about an arbitrary notion like upvotes? I’m a grown man. It’s not victim blaming. It’s idiot blaming. Perhaps I read your message wrong and thought you came back to her after she got in touch a week ago. Most women go nuts over a guy that says no. That’s why she came back. What you do or did after that is on you. That’s all I’m saying. You can’t blame another person for your own choices
/r/seduction31/08/20 12:48 AM
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You allowed it. You literally brought a woman back into your life that made it clear the first time she didn’t want you. And you blame her. You made the choice. Had you self knowledge and some principles you’d have either told her to take a hike or told her she can fuck but that’s it and she’ll have to share your time with the other women in your life. You do have options right? Right? See you had it correct at the beginning. You said no. Good for you in standing on your principles. You failed b…
/r/seduction31/08/20 12:01 AM
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A man is aware and vigilant. Especially of his own behavior and choices. He doesn’t get fooled by a warm wet hole the size of a quarter. A man has principles and codes by which he lives. This dictates what behavior he allows himself and what boundaries he expects others to abide by. Getting friend zoned isn’t manipulation. It’s a result of a guy who has no codes, has no understanding of women and utilizes indirect game and what’s known as covert contracts. Had this guy been a man, put his bid in…
/r/seduction30/08/20 11:35 PM
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Nope. It’s always easy for a man who stands on his name and his principles. “Too hard to walk away” is when the guy puts a woman in front of himself. She didn’t put you there you did. And you keep you there. Not her. Sure if you have a bond it’s gonna hurt but you just recognize it fully and move on. There’s no dimmer or blending of the transition. You simply flip the switch. Friend zoning is the result of a dude who doesn’t know shit about himself or women
/r/seduction30/08/20 11:21 PM
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Nope. It’s always the guys fault. A guy will only accept the treatment from women that he allows. If he doesn’t like it he walks. If he is solid in who he is and has game he guides the communication. If he has no principles he becomes a friend
/r/seduction30/08/20 09:47 PM
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These are it in a nutshell but without knowing who you are, what your principles are, operating from your own chessboard, those things will merely be copies. It’s similar to learning a bunch of martial arts moves before getting comfortable with what it’s like to have another man trying to put you in the hospital. Self knowledge first. Then improve the outer layer then learn game (though at that point if you’re genuine, “outer game” will be unnecessary)
/r/seduction30/08/20 08:25 PM
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How does a baby get comfortable with walking?
/r/seduction29/08/20 04:10 PM
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😂
/r/seduction28/08/20 05:11 PM
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And that’s the problem for most guys is they havent done it consciously. I tell this to my mentees all the time: “if you’re not operating on your own chessboard, you’ll be operating on someone else’s by default”
/r/seduction24/08/20 06:16 PM
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Each person is different. Too many factors individually to account for, that effect the outcome, plus how much effort and focus each guy puts in. What you put in, you get out
/r/seduction24/08/20 06:14 PM
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You are correct and incorrect. Confidence is hard at first but once you get there you’ll slap yourself on the forehead at how simple it is. Getting used to it is the hard part. Why is putting yourself first hard? Because you’ve put your own needs and desires last for so many years. You’ve put the suggestions of society on how to be in the front. You’ve put the perceptions of others and trying to meet them in the front. Not giving a shit about all that is simple but it’s hard when you have all th…
/r/seduction24/08/20 05:34 PM
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No I mean the first part is to have a calm, clear mind. The next step is trusting your own opinions over others and your instincts. Meditation helps cut down on the mental chatter so you can hear yourself better
/r/seduction24/08/20 05:27 PM
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Yeah I did that. Not the same. Try Muay Thai and BJJ
/r/seduction24/08/20 05:25 PM
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Meditation is one way
/r/seduction24/08/20 04:43 PM
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What martial art? If it’s traditional like karate, tae kwon do, Kung fu, then yeah those arts are just arts. They don’t teach how to condition your mind to deal with confrontation. But styles like Muay Thai, Russian Sambo, BJJ, MMA...those arts will definitely learn you up
/r/seduction24/08/20 04:42 PM
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I hear you and it’s true facts. Not every guy is cut out for this game. Not every man can be his own king. If you live by the perceptions and opinions of others, have lots of fear, abide by getting the approval of others, then yeah man, you’ll not succeed. A girl is not gonna just “love you for who you are” if who you are isn’t anyone of substance.
/r/seduction24/08/20 04:39 PM
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I didn’t read very much. Just skimmed
/r/seduction20/08/20 05:29 AM
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Well now you seem to be strawmanning the OP. Nowhere did it say “abusive”. Here you are equating objectification and abuse. I’ve met girls who literally preferred to be treated like a sexual object. It aroused them mentally and physically to be treated like a doll; to be used in any way I saw fit. This was by no direction or desire of my own. The choice was hers and hers alone. I merely played along. All done with respect (bc of who I am) and with zero abuse. “Get on your knees like a good littl…
/r/seduction20/08/20 02:38 AM
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That’s what I’m saying in more words. It’s not so black and white. You could completely objectify someone and still care for them. The traits are not mutually exclusive
/r/seduction19/08/20 11:16 PM
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I get you. The article seems to want to say that any and all objectification does this and as a blanket statement this is simply untrue
/r/seduction19/08/20 08:17 PM
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That’s kind of what I was touching on. As a “member” of the BDSM community I see what I mention. Objectification happens regularly under the guise of a scene while as you said you have two or more consenting people. The excerpt seems to imply that if any objectification is present then other human basics like autonomy and respect are not present. I used BDSM as an example to show that objectification as well as respect and autonomy can exist together. They are not mutually exclusive. One can exp…
/r/seduction19/08/20 07:09 PM
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I agree with the two women’s premise: men and women’s sexuality is different however they both objectify; just in different ways. For instance a women will see not a multidimensional man in front of them, they will see him as a utility. That could be money or it could be emotional fulfillment. I disagree with the list. Just because someone objectifies another does not mean the list of 10 is included inherently. It could include all, some or none at all. One could objectify a partner yet still se…
/r/seduction19/08/20 05:51 PM
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No. Girls are attracted to guys they would like to fuck. Has nothing to do with hobbies
/r/seduction19/08/20 04:35 PM
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What is the invisible disability?
/r/seduction18/08/20 11:15 AM
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Holy crap that’s one big ass response! I’ll look at it later. But real quick- you missed my point about the doctor. The point is that it’s something that takes time and there’s no fast track. If you wanna use martial arts that’s fine. Same message You have excellent points and I don’t disagree with most of what you have said. Except the part about dating skills and social skills can be fixed by dealing with hangups. This is my main frustration is that guys ignore what’s holding them up and think…
/r/seduction17/08/20 08:50 PM
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What you see as a “tough guy” is simply me being honest and direct. Me just speaking my mind. My character doesn’t stop where someone else’s feelings begin.
/r/seduction17/08/20 04:30 PM
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I didn’t ask. But all that matters is if you are being genuine and as authentic to who you are. Strategies are external, so if you’re doing that I hope it changes. Being a douchebag toward women I also don’t advocate for but dudes like that do get laid quite a bit. So it’s not nothing. The reason is that they usually have an “I don’t give a shit what she thinks” attitude which draws in most women. It signals that the guy doesn’t prioritize what she thinks above what he thinks. It’s a bit of a ch…
/r/seduction17/08/20 04:28 PM
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There’s value in what people are saying: a good looking guy can appear charming for saying the same shit an ugly guy says who comes off creepy. But also a lot of it comes from being graceful in a confident way. Creeps are not graceful or confident usually. They may be bold but that’s often compensating for a lack of self. But here’s a tidbit I’ve observed: the guy who is often concerned with coming off as creepy ends up coming off as creepy in his attempt to not come off as creepy. Sort of like …
/r/seduction17/08/20 02:07 PM
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Hm- ok I’m not talking about the misleading titles. I’m talking about the mentality it takes to make shit like that in the first place. It’s like this: let’s say there’s a huge mass of people wanting to be doctors, some people know this and make videos and books selling “the secrets to becoming a doctor fast”. When in reality that is impossible. Even worse is they sell “learn to use a scalpel quick” with the implied notion that this will make them a doctor. There’s no fast track to becoming a ma…
/r/seduction17/08/20 01:31 PM
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It’s ok man. You’re young and inexperienced. It’s no knock on you. But you’ll see
/r/seduction17/08/20 12:16 AM
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I wish it went away like you said. Almost every day I read about someone asking about techniques to getting laid. It’s not agreed upon generally speaking. To many, yes. To most, no. But it’s because they are new and don’t know any better. There is still the desire for making a fast track or a cheat code for the game. New young guys come on this sub each day looking for “the answer”. Go on YouTube and there’s tons of the “follow these 6 steps to getting women”. The view count is through the roof.…
/r/seduction16/08/20 11:27 PM
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A good one is Meditations by Roman emperor, Marcus Aurelius.
/r/seduction16/08/20 11:00 PM
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Yes, the books I’m referring to are the ones devoted to changing techniques and what not. Basically regurgitated nonsense from the 90s and early 00s. Openers, escalating, fucking kino, body language gurus, stacking, the purple method and the star technique. There are some good books out there but most have to do with becoming a clear thinking man. Once that is done, women are easy for the most part. But writers and PUA sleazes know there’s a market of thirsty and confused and frustrated guys out…
/r/seduction16/08/20 09:31 PM
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It’s nebulous bc it’s a time consuming affair that takes years to accomplish. An actionable step would be allowing yourself to be genuine without fear of being disliked. Another is to get your thoughts, words and actions in sync with one another
/r/seduction16/08/20 09:00 PM
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Precisely and thank you for asking the question so I can clarify. The guys I’m talking about are not baby wolves. They are the guys who think the answer is in some PUA book when the answer is in themselves. It’s like a wolf cub watching another animal and thinking that’s what they should be. The point is that there is no blueprint to who you are as a man. You make your own by examining who you are and what you’re about. This takes life experience, reflection and introspection. Sometimes reading …
/r/seduction16/08/20 08:57 PM
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They gave you advice that you wanted to hear. Bc you’re dealing with virgin girls, either you’re a perv or you’re young. It’s not a big deal so relax. And you don’t have to believe me with anything I’ve ever said. Just find out for yourself
/r/seduction16/08/20 08:48 PM
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I didn’t read it wrong. That’s precisely what you wrote: “do you think there is a move to escalate to a relationship” Anyways it’s cool. You’re young. Don’t worry about exclusivity especially with a girl you’re not even fucking. Observe and take note of the little things as you move foreword. How she reacted when you were making it known you were spending time with other girls is a good one. I’m confused: You’re not dating. You’re not having sex. But you’re exclusive? This is no knock on you at …
/r/seduction16/08/20 08:42 PM
1

You know why girls like “douchebags”? Bc they only care about themselves and pay little focus on women beyond putting in their bid. This is highly attractive and good. What douchebags get wrong is they are rude and sometimes abusive. One can still be self centered while being a gentleman. That’s one difference between a man and a douchebag
/r/seduction16/08/20 08:36 PM
1

There’s no “moves” to escalate anything with a woman. All that stuff out there about escalating this and that is pure manipulation even if you like the girl. Even more so in that’s sense. If you are solid in who you are and present as such, she should be wanting to get you in a relationship. Ideally you want the deciding power of where things go and how. She’s not interested in sleeping with you or she would have by now. There’s much in your story indicating her interest only goes so far. I bet …
/r/seduction16/08/20 08:31 PM
1

Work on becoming a man and make sure you’re not simply copying what you think is a man
/r/seduction16/08/20 06:58 PM
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I hope you didn’t understand me with my example. The women who are in your life are there because they want to spend time in the presence of a man. If they are miserable you are doing it all wrong. The idea is you treat them all very good. Love them if you choose. Then it’s up to them to compete for first chair in your orchestra. It’s best if they know about one another. If one or more get pissed at the idea usually it’s because they want your full attention and have low self esteem. They’ll say…
/r/seduction16/08/20 05:39 PM
17

Which means if she wants to leave you’re not gonna try and stop her
/r/seduction16/08/20 03:31 PM
3

Dude it’s like $3
/r/seduction16/08/20 03:26 PM
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Problem is- most guys in this sub are clingy and needy to any girl who gives them attention. This advice is very advanced. Love, is quite easy to do. You can love just about anyone. It can be given freely and boundlessly. But most guys have a covert contract and see love as transactional. This is because they are still in a lower state of neediness and hunger which leads to expectation. They have this bc they don’t know themselves, for, if a guy knows himself and is a man, he doesn’t need anythi…
/r/seduction16/08/20 03:23 PM
1

You’re in the exact position I’m talking about: you have no belief or trust in yourself so you’re seeking tactics essentially to fool women into sleeping with you so you can feel better about yourself. You’re not alone either. This is the majority of this sub. This phrase sums it up: “hard to think any half-decent woman would accept a dead weight like me” You think she thinks what you think before even talking to her. Funny part is, is she will as long as you continue to have this belief about y…
/r/seduction16/08/20 12:42 PM
1

Hunter eyes > prey eyes
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:21 PM
-8

You are mincing words by being triggered by words like “pussy” and what not. Missing my point. And that’s fine. You know full well what being nice gets you. You know full well what douchbags get from women. Unfortunately what women want is only slightly reflected in douchebags. But continue doing what you’re doing. I hope it works out for you.
/r/seduction14/08/20 04:48 PM
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Let’s hope you are and you have no reason to be here lol
/r/seduction14/08/20 02:56 PM
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Pussies also want their hand held, be told it’s going to be ok and to be hugged. They yearn for acceptance rather than facing conflict and achieving things. The reality is that nothing has changed from a few thousand years ago. Real men get the option to spread their seed if they choose. Boys are too young and pussies get ignored. Labeling shit as “toxic” this and that is just dudes being all up in their feels like a woman. What do women have? That’s right pussies. And guess what? No woman wants…
/r/seduction14/08/20 01:51 PM
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Agreed lol
/r/seduction14/08/20 01:44 PM
2

Yes all of this put into action. I will disagree in that depending on the situation and the girl it can be perfectly fine to tell her with your words that you find her attractive. Usually only works when you know she’s into you though
/r/seduction14/08/20 01:42 PM
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You’re still not speaking from your own mind. You are speaking from the mind of someone else. How do I know? Bc I know you didn’t come up with it. Get that nonsense that some other dude said out of your head. It’s convincing you of a reality you don’t even live in. Do you follow? All that shit is just getting in the way of you learning about you. That you can’t be put in a box or be copied. Once it’s strong, that authenticity and trust in ones own judgement and choices is like a drug for most wo…
/r/seduction14/08/20 06:46 AM
1

Why “should”? Be careful with shoulds. The dude in the hostel wasn’t chasing a single pussy. He wasn’t even chasing pussy in general. He was acting out. This is what most guys do. They aren’t competitive. They are validation seeking. Why? Bc they have zero self belief due to a disconnection with themselves. It’s harmful to chase pussy period. You put your bid in and that’s it. Maybe play a little if you’re feeling charming that day. But chasing is chasing and it usually doesn’t have anything to …
/r/seduction14/08/20 06:38 AM
1

“Being in your masculine?” That implies a time when you’re not. Personally I’m not “in” anything. I am a man at all times. A lion is always in the state of being a lion. He has no choice. There’s not even an awareness of anything else.
/r/seduction13/08/20 11:29 PM
3

Nope. I got all of that. And they do it solely out of fear.
/r/seduction13/08/20 10:50 PM
3

Absolutely. I don’t disagree except the attitude that got you in the door, the talking to her that makes her wet and horny needs to never go away. Seduction, the tapping into women’s feelings is a lifelong thing. You could have your life together all you want, but if you lack the ability to arouse her without even touching her, you’ve lost. It also matters if you care or not as a man. Some guys are fine with magnetizing women to them then letting them go after a bit- high value woman or not.
/r/seduction13/08/20 10:16 PM
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Nope. You got it wrong. Because most guys self they are “just being” is weak, shy, lazy, fat, scared, and low self worth. One must become yourself. Bro
/r/seduction13/08/20 09:43 PM
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You get an upvote. The only thing I’d correct your on is the part about “...seem even a little bit genuine”. I know exactly what you are saying but why not be genuine instead of seeming like it. Therein lies the problem which I’m sure you’ll agree with me on: guys have zero fucking clue as to how to be a genuine guy let alone a genuine man. I think it has a lot to do with living online. It started way back in 2000 when sims and online avatars became a thing. People could exist and not exist at t…
/r/seduction13/08/20 09:13 PM
2

I agree to a point. I can’t teach you how to be you. I can only teach you methods to discover yourself. I can’t say do this or that and you’ll know who you are so no it’s not like math. I can show you exercises and habits to develop but what and how you learn is up to you. It’s completely individual becoming a man. Your example of reading someone else comes not from an external set that is learned either. This too comes from knowing who you really are. Most guys go through life like this. And th…
/r/seduction13/08/20 08:19 PM
4

School is much different. Not the same at all. You can’t pass a science exam by knowing who you are. You can’t get a job in accounting by knowing what your values and principles are. The secret of game, of THE game is that it has absolutely nothing to do with women whatsoever. There is no pattern my man. YOU are the only pattern worth looking at. And that’s the biggest problem most young guys have (I did it too): they spend way too much time in front of the window, seeking answers outside themse…
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:48 PM
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I explained it. Lying about life, making it grander than what it is= low self value. Again, why else would he lie? If he believed in himself there’d be no need to lie. The pussy thing I already explained as well: he seemingly chases pussy. Quite a bit if the story is true. This comes from a warped relationship with pussy. It reeks of neediness for validation through women. Could you imagine James Bond acting like this? The dude has low self value, is needy and figured out a way to satisfy his ne…
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:40 PM
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Wrong. Stop reading that bullshit. If you know how to turn a woman on by talking to her it doesn’t matter your station in life. For long term you are perhaps correct. But don’t look at others experience and books and videos and extrapolate universal blanket truths. Use your own experience. And before you say “I have experienced that”, I’ll ask: have you been with every “high value” woman? And what is a high value woman anyway? Looks?
/r/seduction13/08/20 06:15 PM
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He is miserable. And you put pussy on a high value scale. He is miserable because he has low self worth. Why else would he have to lie about a life he doesn’t have? Why else would he chase after pussy so hard? There’s nothing special about pussy so it’s what it’s doing for him that’s glaringly obvious. He uses it for validation. You seem to think that’s valuable.
/r/seduction13/08/20 06:11 PM
2

Sounds like a bitch to me honestly. From what I can see it feels like a needy compulsion to compensate for a low self worth (see lying about his life). He doesn’t believe in himself and therefore must project a better version that isn’t true. And all that fucking and hard work just to get pussy screams validation. Do not copy this male. You can still be sexual with a woman right away when you are genuine.
/r/seduction13/08/20 06:07 PM
1

You have no idea what you are talking about. You’ve read too much and have not experienced enough. You really need to stop spouting shit that was popular on the internet from 10 years ago and form your own opinions from your own experiences. Women want sex. Women need sex. You simply have the wrong perspective and can’t see it. They also want relationships. They also want nothing to do with them. But you know what they really crave?: reliable emotional stimulation. By the way, what the heck is a…
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:33 PM
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I agree. I never get them
/r/seduction12/08/20 12:37 PM
3

Haha. I love how PUA guys love to make categories and labels. This is some cake-ass early ‘00’s PUA nonsense that won’t go away. “But that’s because it’s true!” No. It’s because males keep regurgitating it from their gaming chairs, looking for logical reasons, systems and patterns to the game in the hopes of if they can “figure it out” they will have a leg up. They won’t. Never have. It’s just been a source of debate for online choads to argue finer details for something most of them have no dir…
/r/seduction12/08/20 12:36 PM
1

Who told you that? Is this from your own experience of fucking hundreds of women? Or are you just spouting some nonsense you heard on YouTube? Stop speaking from someone else’s “experience” and start speaking from your own.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:58 AM
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First time is usually weird. Don’t sweat it. But let it be known, you are far from being a complete man simply by putting your peen in a wet hole
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:43 AM
1

Wtf does this have to do with this sub?
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:37 PM
2

The men who received the most appeal from women were dogs. They were classic chauvinists. That’s why the study was so surprising. There was nothing “protective” as you say, about it (in reference to the study). The vibe was “I like to fuck, I’m good at fucking, I probably get women when I want, and I don’t prioritize women”. This attracts women (according to the study as well as in my own experience) like bees to honey. The protective energy comes from a guy who can stand on his own and does wha…
/r/seduction11/08/20 01:14 PM
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I don’t disagree. Except the part about women fucking dudes for attention. Some do. Some like just knowing they are wanted sexually. They like all kinds of attention. But I’m a little confused about why you seem agitated.
/r/seduction10/08/20 11:12 PM
10

In my 43 years and being what you would consider a player, I would agree wholeheartedly. Attention is the currency of tons, if not most women. The difference is that not all women appreciate the same attention. That’s where lots of guys mess up, don’t understand and make assumptions. Also attention is different per person and per situation.
/r/seduction10/08/20 10:17 PM
1

Forget women. This isn’t your main issue right now. You just need to get out and spend some time with your friends and maybe meet new people. Again, put women aside as a goal (they shouldn’t be goals anyway)
/r/seduction10/08/20 09:38 PM
2

It means be sexual but also a gentleman. Sean Connery’s James Bond for instance
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:50 PM
13

Relax. He’s only saying that having a sexual drive and impulses are nothing to be ashamed of.
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:48 PM
5

Yeah, it’s usually women! Lol Even though most of them want sex more than men do. Women are super competitive. If it’s not to be the prettiest it’s to be the sexiest. If it’s not to be the sexiest it’s to be the most prudent. Fucking crazy they all are lol
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:47 PM
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This is a good reminder. Tap in men! Women love dick. Don’t forget it. The issue is the current climate that is very anti-man. It used to be “toxic masculinity” which turned out to be a very vague concept and quite subjective. Now it’s morphed into all masculinity is toxic. Don’t listen. I remember a study where they had women looking at pictures and videos of various archetypes of men. You know who were deemed the most appealing? The cocky, arrogant, “toxic”, chauvinistic men who were confident…
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:42 PM
1

Truth in action
/r/seduction10/08/20 05:47 PM
1

The only values that matter to me are my own. Good luck with sweating those of others. Oh and don’t forget to relax
/r/seduction10/08/20 02:19 AM
1

So you’re saying you’d like to “discuss” the values of another man. Again, it’s odd that you care. My values are not yours. No big deal
/r/seduction10/08/20 02:11 AM
1

Yes I have my own codes and values. You needn’t concern yourself with them. Why you are is beyond me.
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:49 AM
1

That’s precisely what I’m doing. If speaking my mind is me being an asshole, so be it. I’m an asshole. Relax it’s just an asshole taking to you
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:06 AM
0

Haha. Men don’t need their hands held to talk to a perk. Relax it’s just pussy
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:02 AM
0

And that’s my point what dude would get butt hurt over his friend talking to a girl that he failed with? That’s some bitch ass shit. A dude acting like a bitch like that isn’t gonna get pussy anyway. Who the fk “calls dibs” on a woman that he’s not even fucking?? Failure in my estimation is that one’s attempts at seeing if there’s attraction doesn’t work out.
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:18 AM
1

He said failed. Failed is failed. Opportunity is open at that point. Relax, it’s just women
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:58 PM
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Thinking you “still have a shot” is not seeing reality when a girl makes it clear she’s not interested. Only a guys pride would complain that his buddy would talk to her. That would be emotionally investing in a complete stranger. It’s just talking to girls there’s no “rules”.
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:59 PM
0

Ofc. You can do whatever you want
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:56 PM
1

Um bc you dont fuck your friends.
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:34 PM
1

Do you want to fuck or do you want a buddy? Decide
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:14 PM
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It’s only hard for males bc they have no idea how to be men.
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:11 PM
1

It is. You just misunderstood his point and straw-manned him. No big deal though
/r/seduction08/08/20 10:27 PM
3

This is it in a nutshell. It’s important to add that one must have an attitude of not caring so much about what others think of them. Like water off a ducks back
/r/seduction08/08/20 10:16 PM
4

I’m 43 and smashing girls in their 20s. Makes no difference. In fact I’ve gotten more play since 40 than when I was in my 20s. But your age isn’t your problem. I’m proof of that. You’ve never developed your sense of self. You “wanna be that guy just once”. But it doesn’t work like that. That’s like saying “I wanna be a heart surgeon just once”. No. You must become a heart surgeon and now it’s your life and operating on hearts is just an aspect of who you’ve become. Get me? There’s no trick. No b…
/r/seduction08/08/20 10:09 PM
7

You missed the point and deviated. He never said to aim for perpetual happiness. The point is that your happiness, your inner peace, your sense of worth are all your own responsibility
/r/seduction08/08/20 02:37 PM
2

Dumb. Unless you are very comfortable and skilled in knife fighting you’re gonna lose possession of it and now your attacker has a knife.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:53 AM
1

The loud and “rude” guy: this works but not as a technique. You can clearly tell he DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WOMEN. Period. He amuses himself and has a good time even when “pulling at their pigtails”. He also knows his own value and doesn’t put pussy anywhere beyond something he wants to fuck. He’s direct, playful, won’t bend for pussy and won’t chase a pussy. Most guys here will fall flat and ruin interactions with women by copying this. Again he is not using a technique. This is who he is. H…
/r/seduction06/08/20 03:14 PM
2

Precisely. It all begins with giving a shit the most about yourself. From there stems your laws, rules and codes
/r/seduction06/08/20 04:21 AM
2

I rarely upvote on here. You just gone one lmao
/r/seduction04/08/20 06:46 PM
1

And that’s the problem most guys have: When it comes to priorities they think women and getting laid is the rent when the reality is they are the monthly magazine subscription.
/r/seduction04/08/20 06:00 PM
1

Who gives a shit about scoring if you’re still not honest with yourself. That’s not building. That’s living paycheck to paycheck
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:26 PM
1

Ah, ok. Well some of my rules, codes and principles came about from trial and error. Some were written down with a bit of quiet time.
/r/seduction04/08/20 04:55 PM
1

Of course. Why would I advocate something I don’t live?
/r/seduction04/08/20 04:35 PM
3

You need to examine why you are afraid of women, why you want them so much and why you value them so much. And yes you need to sort out your codes, rules and principles. This sets what’s acceptable behavior for yourself and for others. When you do this you establish your “chessboard” and anyone who comes to play it’s clear they are operating under your rules. If they don’t like it they are free to step off. All good. Next. When a man has no chessboard he plays on hers by default. These guys chas…
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:37 PM
1

Your problem isn’t getting laid. You can get a hooker sure but when it’s done you’ll still be in the same mental place. The problem is you. There’s a lot to it and it takes time so if you like you can DM me
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:03 PM
6

The sweet spot is knowing who you are, being who that is and not giving a shit about a woman’s reaction be it positive or negative
/r/seduction04/08/20 02:59 PM
2

Your goal is to reduce pain so you don’t feel guilt. There is no slow way. Be up front. Talk to her like a human and move on. Now the problem may be that you were not up front and clear about your intentions from the get go.
/r/seduction03/08/20 09:32 PM
1

Yeah, clubs can be overwhelming. It’s its own kind of beast. Start with lighter fare like parks, social squares, tourist locations, bookstores. Daytime places
/r/seduction03/08/20 01:56 PM
1

Pure and beautiful? You are romanticizing unhealthy attachments to women which often stems from an unhealthy attachment to mom.
/r/seduction02/08/20 04:42 PM
3

5 you simply describe what oneitis is, not the cause of it. The cause is usually the combined result of upbringing and societal conditioning. Guys with unresolved issues with their mothers (first female relationship) and/or were raised only by a mother often have this problem. Social conditioning plays a role in that early on in childhood cartoons, boys are programmed to believe that women are coveted items to be worshipped, earned and protected. This same narrative extends up through adolescenc…
/r/seduction02/08/20 04:38 PM
4

The best way is to have 8-itis 😂 Kidding. It’s actually not. But check this out: its not really a matter of having more women in your life- though doing so is an easier way to realize the idiocy of oneitis. Provided you’re in the proper mental space to begin with. You need to not look to the external for a solution or understanding. It’s important that you investigate your past to understand why you do this, what your unconscious is seeking and why. Why is this gravely important? Because even if…
/r/seduction02/08/20 04:27 PM
1

Ok best of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 02:55 AM
1

All the more reason to ignore them. If your life is shit it’s gonna make the interest in women into a pursuit, like trying to get high. Try to fix your life first man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 02:35 AM
1

The key isn’t needing options, though it can help. It’s just a matter of not giving a shit about a perk of life. Women are the whipped cream on the sundae of your life. The dudes who get worked up about what a woman does has the body of their sundae made of the whipped cream instead of the ice cream
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:52 PM
10

Dance. Ask women who are not dancing to dance with you. Make your dancing partner smile and laugh. Show a good time. Do this with multiple women. This invariably will cause desire from other women to want the same (hopefully) from you. Do this with a few girls and forget “getting numbers”. The focus is generating a positive emotional experience. Girls who witness you doing this a few times will want to be next.
/r/seduction01/08/20 05:29 PM
2

Sexual presence without pushing for sex basically. I’m comfortable with my sexual nature which puts it on the back burner instead of the front like most guys do. Most guys will keep it on the front and try and hide it by being indirect. Sex itself simply isn’t a priority for me. I want to get inside her head. I also don’t give a shit about getting a woman’s attention or approval. It comes from being comfortable with who I am and not basing any of my behaviors or thoughts bc of who she is.
/r/seduction01/08/20 02:11 PM
3

No. They lose interest if you don’t give them clear indication as to why you are trying to get at them. This again, is why “indirect game” falls flat. If you make it known you are sexually interested but don’t make your actions all about sex it actually holds their attention. It’s a bit of a mind fuck which is magnetic. Sexual vibe and presence without aiming or pushing for sex.
/r/seduction31/07/20 08:31 PM
6

No I’m not. I don’t make women a priority in the same way I don’t prioritize the little chocolate that the hotel leaves on my pillow. Don’t get me wrong, I love women and enjoy the few that I keep in rotation. They just aren’t the focus of my life. And that’s the point to most of what I say in this sub: y’all make this shit about pussy, not realizing it takes you away from your name and knowing yourself which ultimately is the biggest attractor for women lol!
/r/seduction24/07/20 10:37 PM
6

I care bc I care about the health and development of young men. But that’s me. He certainly is becoming more comfortable with talking to women and this is great. It’s just that his “content” isn’t him. I’d bet on his success moving forward if he bet on himself rather than learned techniques.
/r/seduction24/07/20 08:01 PM
8

Right and then Todd V would be out of business for peddling his nonsense. But it’s no strategy. It’s a mans life.
/r/seduction24/07/20 07:57 PM
12

Not true. A mans character isn’t built through approaching women. LIFE builds character. Doing shit that challenges your comfort zones. Talking to women is but one of those challenges. Young guys make it out to be the only challenge and focus on sex too much. They devote tons of mental time on learning external strategies and watching fucking YouTube videos on how to be this and how to do that when all they need is and always has been right inside them. In for a penny, in for a pound has guys tr…
/r/seduction24/07/20 07:49 PM
5

Yes he has my respect bc most guys can’t even do what he’s doing. I’ve told him this multiple times. My comments aren’t cynical. There’s no emotion in them whatsoever. It’s straight logic. Approaching women isn’t his problem- clearly. His problem is him. And just because something has been done by some people (or a lot) for a long period of time doesn’t mean it’s correct, genuine or efficient. OG PUA guys from the 90s and early 00s were all about learning external techniques. Essentially lying a…
/r/seduction24/07/20 07:09 PM
26

Killing what? In nearly 300 approaches not a single thing has happened. Three. Hundred. I’ve pointed this out numerous times. The variable are the girls, the constant is him. If nothing is happening logic would conclude that the constant is the problem yet he keeps going. One girl will eventually bite and he’ll be like “just keep at it boys, it’s all about approaching a lot”, not realizing he has no control and simply got lucky. Smh
/r/seduction24/07/20 06:29 PM
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This is more nonsense from “PUA experts”, parroted by the same undesirable males looking for the secret recipe for changing their hang ups and scoring with women. Unless you live in a little town or it’s very late at night, it’s rare that one person is alone in the street. But even so, if it’s a nice day why not go say hello and show some interest? If you’re an authentic man it’ll be fine- even if she turns you down. If you’re worried about being creepy chances are you already are. Why? Bc you’r…
/r/seduction24/07/20 04:18 PM
3

I get you for sure. From what I understand every culture has a type of man they swoon over. A special kind of attitude and look. If you are like this often times it won’t matter if she’s very conservative. But of course I’m am speculating
/r/seduction23/07/20 08:33 PM
13

Yeah it’s an out dated thing that actually works for some guys by keeping their insecure need to make sure the girl(s) are still interested. They end up texting frequently and usually with bland nonsense. No emotional or imaginative stimulation. The girl gets bored and turned off. Not by the frequency but more so by the content and delivery. If there’s interest after a first hangout you can totally start massaging that massive g-spot between her ears. I would not recommend overt sexual text/vide…
/r/seduction23/07/20 08:20 PM
30

This exactly. It’s not because he was “busy”. It was because he was with another female
/r/seduction23/07/20 08:08 PM
23

I use the phone all the time with women. This is a very old and outdated mindset from Cory. From the phone I’ve had women sending me sexy voice notes, sexy texts and lude pics and video, as per my request and bidding. It’s all about if you can spit flavor in her ears. It’s like giving a sampler at a restaurant before experiencing the 10 course meal at my place. Granted, it’s not constant and all the time. Actually being too busy (vs trying to create the perception of busy simply by holding out) …
/r/seduction23/07/20 08:05 PM
15

It’s not that you’re too busy it’s the fact that your female friend was perceived as a sexual threat. Females are way more competitive socially/sexually than men are on a general scale. Had you been busy by yourself or with male friends she most likely wouldn’t have reacted in the way that she did. Bc of the above, spend some 1 on 1 time with her and I bet she throws herself at you.
/r/seduction23/07/20 08:00 PM
2

This guy gets it too. I’d also like to point out that it’s is important for a guy to understand why they are interested in learning game internally. Why they think they don’t “have what it takes”. Why they think the answers are one video away. Most gamers from the 90s and early 00s knew of the mental shortcomings of young men and capitalized on that.
/r/seduction23/07/20 04:24 PM
6

This guy gets it. What is impressionable on women (anyone really) is the fun you have in yourself. Anyone can sense a genuine positive attitude coming from someone that doesn’t really care about amusing others. Same with being relaxed. I say it continuously here: game as most guys understand it is useless to the bigger picture. It may “work” in the short term but won’t change who you are, which is the real problem. Real mans game has zero to do with women. It’s the game of his own life- the only…
/r/seduction23/07/20 04:12 PM
0

“Getting away with it” What are you trying to get away with? What’s the reason for the sneakiness? Sex isn’t something you should manipulate out of a woman. She will be happy and willing to offer herself if you do things right. One can be “successful” with women using tactics (manipulation) but this only takes you farther away from your name, your identity and your fingerprint. The real question is why would you BS a woman in the first place? What are you afraid of?
/r/seduction22/07/20 02:13 PM
6

My point is that if you’re sexually interested in a woman, it is easier, more efficient and more honest to communicate clearly what your intentions are. If you wanna bs with a girl, then bs with her but having sexual intentions that are hidden is not gonna bring you closer to being a man. It’s tricks and gimmicks, ie a waste of time. I am not quiet about this shit bc I care about men. “Game” is shit. Real game has nothing to do with women and once you realize and experience this the biggest ligh…
/r/seduction22/07/20 02:54 AM
7

More justifying.
/r/seduction22/07/20 02:42 AM
-12

Nice justification for lying to women
/r/seduction21/07/20 10:02 PM
1

Agreed. Be upfront but smooth about your intentions. Why beat around the bush? The idea is to make her laugh, blush and think. Giving her a taste of what it might be like to spend time with you.
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:46 PM
6

If you are traveling or just moved, it’s honest to say “I’m new here or I’m visiting”. Most people are not traveling even during healthy times. You’re out in your own city. So saying “I’m new here” when you live here is a lie. Don’t lie to women. You don’t need to.
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:43 PM
36

But it’s not sincerity. You are literally lying
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:33 PM
1

It happens. The real question is why would you care?
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:01 PM
1

Correct except the word enough. Using the word still is in reflection of others. Enough for what? Who? See what I mean? If you say “enough for myself” then it’s still off bc a man should always be in the pursuit of greater self development, never fully being satisfied with who he is today. There is no “you are enough”.
/r/seduction21/07/20 06:26 PM
2

This is incorrect. The ego is how you see yourself. It is the mediator between the conscious and unconscious minds. Ego is not inherently bad. It just simply is. It can become bad or good (or let’s say useful and not useful) via our childhood experiences as they filter through the conscious and unconscious. Freud divides the mind between the Id, Ego and Superego. Id are instinctual impulses, Superego is essentially morality and the Ego mediates between the two in reality. The superego has two pa…
/r/seduction21/07/20 02:41 PM
0

It’s not about linking up what you like. It’s about having cool hobbies. It’s all about you
/r/seduction21/07/20 01:30 AM
1

Actually I think taxidermy is cool as shit. I’d stand on that too. It’s rare unless you’re from the Midwest USA lol
/r/seduction20/07/20 11:34 PM
2

Um you just dont. You stare at your phone for hours. Same thing
/r/seduction20/07/20 09:32 PM
44

The reality is that good looking people attract more people. It’s just nature. But your problem isn’t your looks. Your problem is comparing yourself to another man. You might come across the same in your career as you come across men in your circle who have more than you. Another issue is using external sources (social media) as a means for validation. You need to learn about the power you have not the power you think you’re missing. Fail to do this and you’ll be left wanting forever.
/r/seduction20/07/20 04:20 PM
1

Nothing is wrong with his line. I’m criticizing the false motives behind the question. He’s not “genuinely curious”. He wanted to see what OP said so he could copy it or model off of its verbal architecture. Lame
/r/seduction20/07/20 12:19 PM
1

You mistake my sentiment for apathy. Look at it more like tennis. The most advantageous position on the court is the middle. The objective of your opponent is to get you running back and forth across the court to create openings. The untrained mind is similar. Situations and emotional stimuli make you flit left and right, going where the emotions take you. Moving you from your center. A trained mind stays centered, unwavering regardless if a girl likes you or doesn’t like you. Most guys on the o…
/r/seduction20/07/20 04:35 AM
1

Just understand that you are all you need to learn. Nobody showed you. Fine. Want some homework? This is the same homework my mentor gave me: Go get yourself a 100 piece puzzle. Dump it out and put the box away. Next complete the puzzle without using the box as reference. If you really want a challenge have a friend get you the puzzle and have them give you the pieces in a bag, having never seen the box at all. There are lessons in this homework that if you’re open to them will teach you somethi…
/r/seduction19/07/20 09:23 PM
5

Ok. I’ll put this all here bc the bouncing back and forth is annoying. Here’s the breakdown: you don’t know or realize the power you have as a man. You have grown up believing women, girlfriends and marriage were pinnacles for a mans life (not your fault). You put women on a pedestal by conditioning, not by choice. As a young man that you are you find your mind on women quite often. Perhaps you even watch too much porn. You don’t have much sexual experience and the bit you’ve had has been a bit …
/r/seduction19/07/20 09:11 PM
-1

Smh. Continue on. You’re never going to learn with a passive aggressive attitude. And yes. I am always right
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:50 PM
2

You’re right, unfortunately.
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:48 PM
1

You’re not being honest with yourself. The nature of your questions shows that you value women above yourself and your own desires, dreams and needs
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:48 PM
-4

I’m not your bro
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:47 PM
6

Doing shit that is challenging, failing, getting better through repetition. Dude, getting girls has nothing to do with getting girls. Get out of this “performance/reward” mindset. Women are a perk to your life that you choose to bring in. They are the whipped cream on the ice cream sundae, not the sundae itself. You are in the mindset that a bowl of whipped cream is an ice cream sundae.
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:35 PM
1

Like the fact that you even have this thought is weird.
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:32 PM
7

He means you are valuing a person over yourself. YOU are (should be) the most valuable person in your world.
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:26 PM
2

You don’t “present” yourself as confident. And if you did it would be just putting a hat on a pig. Eventually it’ll fall off and you’ll be exposed. You develop confidence.
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:25 PM
2

Yes but not for you bc you’re stuck in a weird paradigm
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:24 PM
0

You said you need to change something. Glad you have this awareness. Do you also have the awareness that it has nothing to do with what you are doing but more so who is doing it? Like 98% of guys, you are your biggest problem; not your words or “technique” or amount of approaches. The fact that you get energized from the interaction is something to examine. Dopamine rush from the reward part of your brain. Outcome dependence is another thing to examine. Another is your desire to make things abou…
/r/seduction19/07/20 02:45 PM
1

How old are you? If you’re young and still live with your parents I’d say just keep living your life and when the time is right, move to a bigger city with a greater population
/r/seduction19/07/20 12:34 PM
4

Dude. How many times are you gonna post this?
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:38 AM
2

Bitchy? No. Bratty? Yes
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:36 AM
2

I was gonna say “fix yo shit and stop being a bitch”. But I think you summed things up well enough
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:31 AM
0

1) Why the fuck is this in here? This is a seduction sub not a relationship sub 2) You are already needy and the part of you that creates neediness was never addressed. Until you deal with that you’ll repeat this scenario again and again. 3) You’ve lost. I know you don’t want to hear it but you’re not “winning” her back. Just learn from it, address your issues and sleep with another woman. Women aren’t a reason to lose sleep over. Jeez
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:28 AM
6

I don’t understand
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:24 AM
3

I’d have to agree and disagree. There’s so many factors at play but the main one is if you feel like shit about yourself nothing will suit you. Get that part sorted out, understand your own value and you can do whatever you want. If you want to machine gun it and talk to as many women as you can so be it. If you only do so when the impulse hits you then do that. Each guy will have his way. Problem is most guys spend too much time looking for solutions outside themselves and ignore their own male…
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:19 AM
1

I was being sarcastic. Only morons throw money at women. ESPECIALLY women they ain’t never gonna fuck
/r/seduction18/07/20 10:17 PM
1

Yeah it’s fucked up. I mean, why would I pay money just to look at a woman?
/r/seduction18/07/20 10:07 PM
1

Sounds like you’re in a small town. You might need to travel to the nearest city
/r/seduction18/07/20 10:07 PM
3

Physical and mental health are in order and regularly maintained. Issues are not projected
/r/seduction18/07/20 05:07 PM
3

It’s kind of hard to explain. It’s not making things sexual. It’s having a sexual presence. Which takes time to develop. It’s not something you learn, it’s something you are that you never let out or you let society condition you to not be. If you attempt to make things sexual and you yourself are merely making moves beyond what your actual character is, it will come off poorly. In common parlance: creepy
/r/seduction17/07/20 10:06 PM
2

Romance novels you find in the grocery store. Fabio on the cover
/r/seduction17/07/20 12:50 AM
2

The difference is who is delivering, why and when. It’s also about quality.
/r/seduction17/07/20 12:49 AM
31

You’re confused bc most men don’t know how to flirt. It should be obvious but smooth and playful. Most young guys these days have no connection with their sexual selves and beat around the bush. They are also afraid of coming off as “creepy” which alters their natural state which invariably makes them creepy. Lol
/r/seduction16/07/20 09:20 PM
9

Absolutely. And the key to writing erotica is to slow down, take your time and be very descriptive. Buy a romance novel to see what I mean. Then you can talk to women this way once the texting or phone/video chats start rolling. Getting a girls imagination going will make her wetter than anything physical you can do.
/r/seduction16/07/20 07:46 PM
4

You can talk to people wherever. That’s you still giving a shit about what people think
/r/seduction16/07/20 07:10 PM
9

Nothing really needs improving. What’s needed is a developed relationship and comfort and confidence with your sexual self. Not giving a fuck also helps
/r/seduction16/07/20 06:04 PM
32

It begins with your presence. If you start off with a sexual vibe instead of a meek, eggshell vibe you set the stage. It’s up to you to guide the convo to sex. Girls like talking about sex more than men do. I have my students start writing erotic poetry and short stories. This gets the imagination and vocab going which can be later used in regular conversation. But again, it’s all about how you carry yourself. If you’re just trying to learn tips and tricks that are not natural to you, you will f…
/r/seduction16/07/20 03:59 PM
1

This is utterly stupid. Let me illustrate how: If I gave you a tiny stick and a tuxedo and placed you in front of an orchestra, would you be in control? If I told you the phrases a dog trainer uses, would you be in control? If I showed you some dance steps for couples, would you be in control?
/r/seduction16/07/20 02:17 AM
1

Who cares if she’s single? If she’s talking to you she doesn’t care either. Why should you?
/r/seduction15/07/20 09:51 PM
1

Oh god. Hey moderators, get this shit out of here
/r/seduction15/07/20 12:08 PM
3

There is so much wrong with this. But I get it, you’re new to dating. We’ve all fucked up and it’s no big deal. Understand that you are going to continue to fuck up. Don’t take it personal. Your change will happen when you can objectively look in the “mirror” and not get down on yourself. This is the beginning of change. Your feelings while perhaps valid, will not solve your problem. Fuck em. Bc there is so much here I can’t even unpack it all so I’ll just leave you with this: Place zero emotion…
/r/seduction14/07/20 02:57 PM
7

The friend is always hotter. If you see a first tinder pic as a group shot or a duo, 9 times out of 10 it’s the ugliest girl in the group
/r/seduction14/07/20 01:57 PM
0

😂
/r/seduction13/07/20 06:33 PM
1

Getting numbers is bullshit
/r/seduction13/07/20 12:31 PM
2

Disagree completely
/r/seduction13/07/20 12:31 PM
1

Well this might take a while. And this is part of the problem with many young guns: you have many things in life at your fingertips, a push-button lifestyle from food to movies to dates. So it’s safe to assume sex right? No. You can’t become a man from watching videos and practicing some techniques for a month. You need to develop, not what you’re doing (well sort of). The first thing that popped out is you said you were desperate. Why? You don’t necessarily need to say here as to why but that n…
/r/seduction13/07/20 12:27 PM
1

Yes. What I’m saying is that one needs to have the desire to be in the race in the first place. It’s kind of like therapy. A mentally ill person can go to all the sessions they want but until they are ready to heal with a strong desire to change, then nothing will happen no matter how many external efforts they make.
/r/seduction13/07/20 01:16 AM
1

Good stuff but it worked for you to make these efforts bc your mind was ready. If a guys mind is still stuck in mental trenches he’s carved out, none of these things will work. Essentially it’s not the outward things you did that changed things. It’s what you did inside that changed things, then your choices simply fell in line. The choices simply made sense.
/r/seduction13/07/20 12:56 AM
38

Actually I think this is the perfect time to be hard on yourself. No social gatherings, no parties, no art openings, no barbecues, no concerts or movies. You’re just there with you and your problems that you never sorted out years ago. Maybe decades ago. But wait, there’s Netflix and Fortnite and porn. We can put me off til tomorrow. Maybe I’ll even watch some in-field videos to see how it’s done. Yeah, I’ll take some notes. I’m not putting me off by doing that, right? I’ll take so many notes th…
/r/seduction12/07/20 08:30 PM
0

If that’s what gets you going, sure. Seems a bit weird to me though
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:55 PM
2

If I could trust you I’d be happy to send the pics and video women send me. Similarly the results of some of the guys I help. It’s no woo at all. It’s pure science and logic. I just have guys spend less time in their heads. It’s your job to get your shit straight to become a man. Women come after this as a result, not as a focus. This game has absolutely nothing to do with pussy. But my all means, if you are feeling good about your life, got a good head on your shoulders regarding your goals, ac…
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:50 PM
4

I have on his other numerous posts. I speak on it to show the idiocy of his ways. That’s why. To point out by sheer numbers alone that he’s clearly doing something wrong. Not once has he acknowledged this and asked for help to me or anyone else. Or if you were asking why I don’t suggest something of another angle to his failing attempts I would say bc he is seeking tools outside of himself by “stacking” and using the “purple technique” coupled with the “Star method”. He’s completely ignoring and…
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:15 PM
8

This is one definition of insanity
/r/seduction12/07/20 04:02 PM
11

45 days man. That’s an average of 225 conversations that lead nowhere. It’s boggling to me that you’re not stopping and saying to yourself “what’s wrong here?”. It’s like you’ve tasked yourself with cutting a piece of wood and some “gurus” told you it can be done with a butter knife if you use different colored handles. Obviously your tool isn’t working and you are wasting energy and time. Why are you doing this to yourself??
/r/seduction12/07/20 04:01 PM
2

Stop talking in a manner that’s aimed at entertaining her. Talk about what you’re passionate about. As far as turning her on learn to flirt. Make her laugh, blush and think. The goal is to give the girl a taste of what it would be like to be with you
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:57 PM
1

If that’s the case then why are you asking for height data? Get out of that shit
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:53 PM
1

The competition? Who are you competing against where height is an issue when most men fall between 5’8” and 5’10”? Certainly not basketball. So what is it?
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:51 PM
0

Duh, you can’t find a large average in a reddit sub. Google has that. National average for men is (in the US) 5’9”. To add, wtf does this kind of poll have anything to do with seduction?
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:50 PM
-3

What, so you can copy it or model from it. Sheesh
/r/seduction12/07/20 02:54 PM
5

You get it. Sadly tho most guys will sit on their undeveloped, uninvestigated sheepish selves and say “but being myself is a turn off for women”. What they don’t realize is that they are not being themselves at all. They never have. But they still have that ache inside. That ache is their essential masculine self. There is no relationship to it and therefore an inability to live from it in a healthy way or at all.
/r/seduction12/07/20 02:12 PM
1

Not to most women
/r/seduction11/07/20 10:03 PM
1

I was gonna reply to the various assumptions and odd jumps in logic, but then I lost my reply due to switching to another app. Starting again, I asked myself if I really gave a shit. And I don’t. But you seem like a nice guy and I spent last night being taken care of by a sexy woman so I’m feeling less prickly and quite relaxed. Fact is, I don’t give a shit what you think of my words or my path or my advice. I don’t care if I’ve made mistakes. I put my dick out there. Sometimes it gets cut from …
/r/seduction11/07/20 02:56 PM
1

Ha. Not released yet. Still recording a bank of episodes so I’m not “living paycheck to paycheck” as it were. It’s called The Forge Project
/r/seduction10/07/20 08:18 PM
1

It’s not the book that’s the problem. There’s a few good ones (not The Game IMO). The problem is the reader. They usually get sucked into the mode of “perpetual preparation” (a topic soon to be discussed on my podcast). It’s like that “finger pointing at the moon” scene in Enter the Dragon. Too much focus on the finger and missing the bigger picture which is women ain’t shit in this game of men. They are the whipped cream on the sundae, not the sundae itself. But they discuss “female nature” and…
/r/seduction10/07/20 07:08 PM
2

Absolutely. I have a mentor myself whom I go to from time to time for a punch in the chest. I am aiming at those bottlenecks who are looking for solutions outside themselves. Yes a coach or a teacher or friend is outside themselves but it’s the responsibility of said guide to show the young putz that what they seek has been with them the whole time. Sadly, these bottlenecks as you put it, is the vast majority. I’ve seen it increase as life became more and more about online interaction vs face to…
/r/seduction10/07/20 06:33 PM
4

None
/r/seduction10/07/20 04:44 PM
4

It’s only bollocks when you don’t know who you are and have no principles
/r/seduction10/07/20 04:44 PM
8

No
/r/seduction10/07/20 04:42 PM
1

You are correct and I’m flattered you’d quote my nonsense lol. What’s been done since forever is getting out and talking to plenty of girls, take mental notes and go from there. Nowadays most dudes takes notes from other mens experiences, ignore their own mind (essentially disrespecting it) and try to copy what some PUA bullshitter says worked for them. So your average schmuck who has no belief in themselves copies some shit, “stacks”, uses the purple opener and the star method and does so until…
/r/seduction10/07/20 04:38 PM
1

The question is learn what? Learning to copy their shit. That’s what most guys are looking to do. I paint it with a broad brush bc I have seen it all and 99% of it is crap. Men have been getting with women for a long time. What did they do pre internet, take up knitting? No. They did what they had to do. With little to no guidance except their own mind unless they had a father figure that knew better.
/r/seduction10/07/20 01:21 PM
1

So you’re saying perspective should be taken from a guy who admittedly has no confidence, has copied one liners and who probably spends more time on YouTube watching Todd V videos than he does between a woman’s legs. As a professional illustrator I will say that trying on other people’s styles is a normal part of a bullshit process that comes from not knowing what your creative voice is. Many artists spend years wasting their time copying the work of other people only to find that they don’t hav…
/r/seduction10/07/20 12:47 PM
2

Someone else’s journey means nothing to me. That’s all you tubers are doing. They are trying to sell you the idea that you don’t know what you’re doing and that there’s some kind of secret pattern. The secret pattern is you. And this can’t be taught in a video and it can’t be sold as product. But they don’t want you to know that. They want you to drink the kool-aid. One woman could be difficult and bitchy and cheat. Doesn’t mean she’s gonna treat me that way.
/r/seduction09/07/20 10:58 PM
1

No. Do not go on YouTube to throw away more money. The answers are in all of us. Not fucking videos
/r/seduction09/07/20 10:02 PM
1

Yeah? And how many dudes still walking after how long walking?
/r/seduction09/07/20 08:22 PM
2

Omg. So sorry someone took that much money from you. I can help you for free (42)
/r/seduction09/07/20 08:21 PM
1

They do- like a crutch
/r/seduction09/07/20 07:53 PM
3

You’re done. Drop it and try talking to a girl you can actually fuck
/r/seduction09/07/20 05:56 PM
15

Nothing has changed except his ability to more comfortably walk up to strangers and say hi for 5-10 min. At 42 days with an average of 5 approaches, that’s 210 interactions with every single one saying “no”, “I have a boyfriend”, “I have to get back to work” etc. Not one has lead to anything at over 200 conversations. This means what OP is doing is not working. Why? Bc he is using learned tricks and gimmicks he’s picked up from videos and books which is what another man has devised. This may wor…
/r/seduction09/07/20 04:49 PM
1

Haha. I hope this is sarcasm
/r/seduction09/07/20 04:39 PM
18

“Good enough for attractive women”. This mind state has women over you. You feel that you are beneath them and they are something to achieve. Even if you’re bagging 10s you’ll still be losing as long as you maintain this false dichotomy.
/r/seduction09/07/20 04:38 PM
8

What they don’t get is that this game has nothing to do with women at all
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:06 PM
1

I’m not inherently wrong. Go chase
/r/seduction09/07/20 01:03 AM
1

Who gives a shit
/r/seduction08/07/20 10:26 PM
1

You don’t ask for shit. And unless it’s set to private you can message the girl without following. There’s nothing to be gained from following the profile of a girl you wanna fuck
/r/seduction08/07/20 08:27 PM
2

No. Why would you follow a woman??
/r/seduction08/07/20 08:14 PM
1

It stands for Pick Up Artist
/r/seduction08/07/20 08:13 PM
1

Precisely
/r/seduction08/07/20 08:13 PM
3

Why would you care if they never get in touch with you? If you present yourself honestly and clearly and concisely, with your intentions clear then you did your job. She has every right to say yes or no. It’s like putting your bid in for a freelance gig: you present your credentials, you explain why you’re the best for the job and you leave your contact details. You don’t go calling them up begging for the job. It looks bad and it looks needy. Don’t ask women for shit. You introduce yourself, ma…
/r/seduction08/07/20 05:26 PM
9

Stop using PUA nonsense. It isn’t natural and you can’t maintain it. What happens if you meet up? Now you gotta switch from “pick up” techniques to “date” techniques. What if she comes over? What if you start fucking? What if you start dating? Either you are gonna spend a shit ton of time learning techniques to maintain each level or you’re eventually gonna run out or slip up and the real you, the you you have no confidence in will be exposed. Doing PUA bullshit not only is a waste of time, it’s…
/r/seduction08/07/20 03:13 PM
9

Dude. Stop asking women for their numbers. Just offer yours
/r/seduction08/07/20 02:47 PM
1

Kiss her? Dude the girl wants to fuck 😂 Have fun. Make her blush and laugh and invite her to your room. Get some room service with some wine, cheese and sweets and go deep diving. Hopefully you were smart enough to bring condoms.
/r/seduction07/07/20 08:43 PM
1

Walk away
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:13 PM
2

You’ve got the wrong idea. Being a so called alpha is just standing on your principles, whatever they are. They are different for each man. Sadly most males never take the time to figure that out for themselves.
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:13 PM
3

You don’t necessarily have to be “high energy” but just be engaging. Like how your energy is when you meet a good friend.
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:08 PM
1

I agree with all of this except the first part about getting a girls number. Be the badass who gives her your number. Don’t ask for shit from a woman. If all these things are followed she’ll call you and it’ll come off like you don’t need her in your life (because you don’t). Further, all of this shit should be base behavior. It’s natural. Sadly for most young guys it must be learned. I’d add a #21: Fuck your feelings
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:05 PM
1

I combine both and say both and get both out of one person.
/r/seduction07/07/20 01:26 PM
2

Male vibes usually require stroking. Wouldn’t work. Not everything is about equality and in sexual dynamics often it can get heavily weighted on one side. And it’s tons of fun for lots of couples. And it doesn’t have to be a guy. Her lesbian partner could be the controller ;)
/r/seduction07/07/20 01:24 PM
2

Get a wireless vibrator like the Lush2. Tell the girl you’re with to put it in and you can have fun with her anywhere from your phone. Lunch at a restaurant, the movies, farmers market, when she meets your parents for dinner...lol
/r/seduction07/07/20 01:16 AM
9

For me it’s best when both I and the girl know what’s up but the convo remains suggestive. More fun than let’s go fuck in the Macy’s changing room (but having done that a couple times that’s fun as well)
/r/seduction06/07/20 08:01 PM
1

Your teacher has been in the mirror the whole time
/r/seduction06/07/20 01:01 PM
2

You got it
/r/seduction06/07/20 04:39 AM
1

Read what I said again. I didn’t say they were expendable. I didn’t say their lives were worthless. When I say something “ain’t shit” it’s to say, that whatever that something is (in this case, women) can not cause my mind to deviate from my path. There is no separation between “game” and “seduction” and life. It’s all wrapped in together and has nothing to do with women. It’s all about the man and his life. Many women will try to make you think they are more than that. But it’s a huge deal to p…
/r/seduction06/07/20 04:14 AM
3

That something won’t stop you unless you allow it to. Bc most times it’s just in your head. You’ll see as you go along that women ain’t shit really. I don’t mean that their lives are worthless. I don’t mean that in a derogatory way. I mean they won’t matter to the you as much as you thought they once did. And you’ll notice the subtle means by which they will try to get you to see that they should matter as much as you matter to yourself. You’ll see if you keep going on this seduction path that w…
/r/seduction06/07/20 03:40 AM
2

You don’t see it bc you’re probably still young. A mans path. A real mans path is a lonely one. First off achievement and success is subjective. To some it’s external, to some it’s internal. But a man walks this path alone. I agree that strong relationships are good. I have but a small handful of other men that I would trust my life or my kids life with. All other relationships fall below that level of “really mattering”. This path, your path to finding yourself and becoming the bad mutherfucker…
/r/seduction06/07/20 03:28 AM
2

Yes, I remember you. Hello. You are correct, obsessing over girls is a fast track to misery even if you get them all the time. In fact if you are getting pussy and still obsessing then you’ve probably got an even bigger internal problem. A mans life, his successes, his self worth, his happiness has absolutely nothing to do with women. Nothing. They fix nothing. They complete nothing. They are an accoutrement to a good life. Not the good life itself. I am harsh on young men bc life is faster than…
/r/seduction06/07/20 03:01 AM
1

Just keep spitting flavor in her ear. Women love variety and imagination. The biggest selling genre of books are romance novels and for a good reason. Tell her short stories of things you’d like to do to her. Be very very descriptive and take your time. For inspiration go read r/gonewildstories
/r/seduction06/07/20 02:03 AM
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Quit watching fucking videos! You Tube isn’t gonna save your asses. Only you can. Stop looking out the window for answers and start looking in the mirror. Be honest with yourself. I don’t mean create self pity. Be objective and fuck your feelings. Every solution is inside you.
/r/seduction06/07/20 01:59 AM
2

Oh man, your head is already filled with PUA nonsense and terms. It’s real easy man: become comfortable with yourself as a sexual being. Learn to turn women on with your words without being a fucktard. Do this and you can be anywhere. A bar, the mall, the street, a concert, “social fucking circle”, wherever. It doesn’t matter.
/r/seduction06/07/20 01:51 AM
1

Question 1 can be answered only by you. You need to ask why you want a girlfriend so bad. Keep asking why with each answer that pops in your head and be brutally honest with yourself. Question 2. You don’t have to avoid dating. In fact it would be good to exercise the skill of socializing. Two notes: don’t talk to only women you find attractive. Talk to everyone. Old people, men, ugly women, cashiers, bus drivers etc. Learn to shoot the shit for the sake of shooting the shit. Period. Note two: i…
/r/seduction06/07/20 01:39 AM
1

My bad. I thought I saw “ex” in there and it was just short for “example”. Excuse the misunderstanding. My point still holds bc it’s all too common
/r/seduction05/07/20 11:08 PM
1

These examples don’t apply bc this is a seduction sub. Send this to sub that’s about saying nice things to people just bc you care. The dialogue from the original post is bullshit and you’re being dishonest. If that’s what you said, you were probing to see if your ex would still communicate with you bc you still hold a candle. She does not. Why? Bc it took her two days to get back to you. She was being nice to a nice boy. The two days she was not talking to you she was either talking to a guy th…
/r/seduction05/07/20 10:44 PM
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Why the fuck would a guy be wishing a happy 4th to a girl he’s not fucking? Translation from the cake-ass example that I hope isn’t real: Guy: “I haven’t let go of you despite you dumping my ass. Do you still like me?” Girl: “No” Guy: “Ok great, love you” 🤮
/r/seduction05/07/20 09:08 PM
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You gotta really think about it. Without adhering to what society thinks or fear of judgement, do some writing about what you find important. Try to disregard what religious conditioning, social conditioning and politics conditioning has had you believe. It takes time but once you know what your rules, codes and principles are then you can more easily move through the world when combined with a don’t give a fuck attitude
/r/seduction03/07/20 06:27 PM
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What i mean is if owning a Ferrari is something you desire or a big 401k by all means do it. My point is that “accomplishment” is subjective. Working toward greater self mastery is another accomplishment. The world doesn’t have codes and principles. It has the law of the land, law of the job and law of the street. But these are laws and not codes. Only a man makes codes and principles for himself to lead himself. But I digress...
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:40 PM
1

Better to be delusionally confident with a wet dick and a wad in your pocket than full of philosophical self doubt, a dick with callouses on it and no friends except the ones they met while playing Fortnite
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:32 PM
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Accomplishments are not necessary. What’s more important is to know your codes and principles and standing on them. If worldly accomplishment is one of those principles then fine.
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:29 PM
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Find an activity that isn’t. Even being a Buddhist monk is driven by ego. Big deal
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:26 PM
1

Not true. That’s only an ego not under control. When you know yourself better you can make your ego work for you.
/r/seduction03/07/20 04:26 PM
3

I don’t know about you but each moment is a moment closer to death. Why put anything off? Yeah, I’m a dick and I punch people in the chest. But it’s because I want to see them get past their own bullshit instead of distractedly looking for answers outside of them. Wasting time. Those that do don’t know themselves otherwise why would they look outside?? Examine your fears. This is your starting point. Get real with yourself. Oh and fuck your feelings 😁
/r/seduction03/07/20 03:25 PM
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Ok well first off you don’t unknowingly give off a friendly vibe instead of a sexual one. If you didn’t know you wouldn’t be able to objectively speak to it. So don’t lie. That’s step one. Step two is admitting you’re afraid to be sexual because you don’t know how. Step three which goes hand in hand with step two, is admitting you are afraid of women. Then you gotta dig around in your mind and discover why. Then you see what it is, acknowledge it, and dismantle it bc you’re grown and not a littl…
/r/seduction03/07/20 06:15 AM
1

Make a plan for yourself. Assume you are going alone. Call her, don’t text and tell her what you’re doing (don’t ask her). Then say she’s welcome to tag along/join you.
/r/seduction02/07/20 10:24 PM
1

There’s no tricks. No videos. No one to copy. That’s what you’re asking: “can I copy what works for someone else?” Brother, that’s like putting a hat on a pig. Even if the info is solid. Wouldn’t it be better to become a free thinking man who develops instead of parroting some shit? Women ain’t shit. Talking to them ain’t shit. What gets them for real, what gets them addicted to you is you. Not some lines or gimmicks you learned from a video. But getting in touch with yourself and becoming a man…
/r/seduction02/07/20 07:35 PM
3

Not making the first move is fine. I actually prefer it. It comes down to being able to turn her on with your words. Make her so hot she needs your dick and can’t resist. That said, commonly women also love unbridled passion from men. But again, this requires you hitting that g-spot between her ears.
/r/seduction02/07/20 05:43 PM
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Forgot is the key word here. You weren’t in love, you were distracted. Hence why you hated yourself after. The underlying negativity never went anywhere.
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:35 PM
1

Nope. As I responded to another person here, you can only feel like you are loving someone for the time being. Once that person is removed, you are then faced with yourself again and all your unresolved issues. So the feelings, more like infatuation or puppy love, are real but it’s not love and acts as a distraction so you don’t have to face yourself. Mature love comes from a place of emotional independence prior to anyone being in your life (ie. self love). Then when you bring someone in it is …
/r/seduction01/07/20 03:12 PM
2

Do not fucking lie. “Are you seeing other women” is actually a really great sign bc the girl sees you as something desirable and is wondering if she has competition. If she’s into you, she will work harder to position herself as your number one pick. So when you’re asked, don’t do fucking smoke and mirrors. Don’t flirt. Don’t lie. Just be honest and answer yes. Lying exposes your fear of losing a girl(s).
/r/seduction01/07/20 05:20 AM
1

Google hangouts? Or similar
/r/seduction30/06/20 09:39 PM
1

Yes. Honesty and being comfortable in expressing that you’re a sexual being in a smooth way. Some will like you, some won’t.
/r/seduction30/06/20 02:57 PM
2

Funny, I’m not the one crying about how hard it is to get over pussy. If you got pussy more often and moved it down a few rungs on your ladder of importance, you’d know this. The only reason why you find it hard to get over some pussy is because you get in your feelings and you pedestalize the person connected to the pussy. Take that bullshit apart and you get over females real quick. I know where you’re coming from. I didn’t come out the womb like this. It’s come from experience and understandi…
/r/seduction30/06/20 02:03 AM
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It is. It’s only you that’s making it hard. So who’s the dumbass?
/r/seduction30/06/20 12:35 AM
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Bc y’all eat videos and books like swine at an endless trough. A video won’t help a guy get over a women just like watching a video won’t get your dick wet. Getting your dick wet gets your dick wet. Getting over women is as easy as flipping a light switch. You just acknowledge the loss and in a moment take a breath, fix your tie and walk the fuck off to hunt again. No pussy is worth ruining your days over. Fuck your feelings. They won’t help you fix your problem. Which is you. Getting laid is th…
/r/seduction29/06/20 11:02 PM
1

Nah, just a bunch of dudes who greatly capitalized off of simps. If you did anything it wasn’t them, it was in you already. Where are they now? Nowhere. Not mad not crazy. I just knew snake oil when I saw it years ago
/r/seduction29/06/20 10:54 PM
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Why? What will consuming visual data do?
/r/seduction29/06/20 08:33 PM
2

RSD is washed up poison.
/r/seduction29/06/20 08:32 PM
0

Unless you’re naturally like this, once again it’s like putting a hat on a pig. Stop trying to learn gimmicks. It shows you don’t know who you are and a lack of desire to
/r/seduction29/06/20 05:23 AM
1

Copying behaviors won’t work. It’s a change that needs to happen internally by facing your fears. Otherwise it’s like putting a hat on a pig
/r/seduction28/06/20 10:21 PM
1

I’m assuming your question is: do women care about height? Some do and some don’t. But here’s the hitch: Who give a fuck what women think? That’s putting their mind in front of your own and using that as a barometer as to how to feel and act. Fuck em. The only thing that matters is if you care about your height. If you care, it’s always gonna be a problem. Always. Forever. You’re not gonna change it and you can’t change some women’s ideas on the matter. Might as well get to accepting it and goin…
/r/seduction28/06/20 05:21 PM
4

I’ll have to agree. His difficult step is to not give a shit about his height for himself. It will take effort and time. As long as he cares, it will only serve to influence others caring.
/r/seduction28/06/20 04:50 PM
0

Who cares about data
/r/seduction28/06/20 04:47 PM
6

I’d have to agree. A good pal of mine is maybe 5’4” and his wife is at least 6’. Then again they have an open marriage so...
/r/seduction28/06/20 04:47 PM
2

You didn’t ask a question. What do you want advice on?
/r/seduction28/06/20 04:45 PM
6

Sex is still sex in India right? Hope so
/r/seduction25/06/20 02:12 PM
3

Not sure you got my point? Too many guys here stockpile information and do nothing with it except smack their little pee pees together in game theory arguments
/r/seduction24/06/20 03:29 PM
1

Well let’s do an average of 5 per day. Over a period of 26 days that would be 130 approaches. From what I’ve seen by scanning to the bottom of each report, not a single one lead to a date, a one night stand, or otherwise. Please correct me if I am wrong. Admittedly I only skimmed. Now before you say “this isn’t my goal”. I will congratulate you for putting action to work. It’s hard at first and what you’re doing (approach volume) is the only way through. However, while getting laid might not be …
/r/seduction24/06/20 01:54 PM
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It would only be equivalent if the overweight dudes spent most of their time “getting fit” by reading books on fitness, watching workout videos, and arguing about the finer details of kinesthetics in a reddit sub.
/r/seduction24/06/20 01:36 PM
3

How many approaches have you had in these 26 days?
/r/seduction23/06/20 09:11 PM
3

Wrong sub. This belongs in r/relationships
/r/seduction23/06/20 05:43 PM
1

No you’re not. Not if you use lines. Why? Because you need to learn lines which means they are not a part of you. You don’t need to learn to be yourself. You just open up to it. But that requires being comfortable. Once you’re comfortable with yourself, lines become unnecessary and trite.
/r/seduction22/06/20 12:06 AM
1

Well clearly it has nothing to do with your appearance. You have a warped self perception. The only one that can answer this question is you. You gotta get alone and quiet and do some thinking or writing. Get honest with yourself. For most people this has to do with something that happened during your childhood or youth
/r/seduction21/06/20 02:07 PM
2

I agree with the guy who said to keep it simple. Just tell her you’re getting a drink after work and ask her if she wants to tag along. Pretty simple. I will add this though: I find it very valuable to let her know clearly and concisely why you’re asking her out. Could be something as simple as “I find you attractive”. Point is, don’t leave any room for guessing and don’t assume she knows why.
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:54 AM
1

Walk
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:14 AM
1

Yes. As I have said, looks are an important part. I’ll say it again, the attraction doesn’t stop there and other factors are at play. These factors can play off and balance things out. For example Dave might have been a cute 8 but boy could he make you laugh. Michael was a straight 10 and not much fun but damn he could lay some pipe. Bill might have been a 7 but his love for life and adventurous spirit just picked you up off your feet.
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:10 AM
1

You win
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:05 AM
2

No. Do not use lines. Be yourself
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:04 AM
1

As a man with quite a bit of experience I’ll have to disagree. Do you mean silly by meaning silly fun and sometimes silly easy to get in a woman’s pants? Then yeah, seduction is silly. I will agree that women want a man they are attracted to. However this can come in a myriad of ways. Looks ARE important but there’s no hard and fast rule. Just look back at all the men you’ve been with. I bet they are all different. Perhaps vastly, perhaps not. But all different for sure. This is because the attr…
/r/seduction21/06/20 03:58 AM
2

I’m with you all up until the last paragraph. Why would I bother asking her about boyfriends at all? Completely unnecessary. If you’re into bothering to qualify her, there’s a whole host of shit you can do that doesn’t make her think about other men. And I know you’re just making an example but I hope you don’t say the ice cream thing...
/r/seduction21/06/20 03:40 AM
4

Why would you want to get involved with someone who has a mental illness? Sounds like you don’t have options.
/r/seduction20/06/20 05:02 PM
1

I’d have to agree in a similar sense that just because someone is mature, doesn’t mean they know what they are talking about. Similarly just because someone is rude doesn’t mean that they’re an idiot. They’re just hard to swallow. Much like my 11th grade math teacher. A brilliant asshole. I pontificate but I don’t care what people think 😉
/r/seduction20/06/20 04:27 PM
1

I agree as I have stated before. A person who has zero conscience would be generally described as a psychopath (amongst other diagnoses). Your next statement has holes. What’s good for one may not be good for another. What is seen as not good for one may not be not good for another. “Should” is a very dangerous word to use. Who’s “should” are we going to tell OP to base his actions on. Yours? Well that would fall under moral relativism wouldn’t it. Chaos vs order is subjective too mainly bc we c…
/r/seduction19/06/20 05:28 PM
2

Yes it happens. Why do you want to know these stories? Are you crushing on some girl, trying to decide if you should “slide into her DMs”? Looking for evidence that it can work?
/r/seduction19/06/20 01:58 PM
-1

From top to bottom: I intentionally ignored this point of him asking bc I liked where the conversation was going. You are correct in that based on his asking he isn’t even in the right mindset. He probably doesn’t have a roster and this was some pussy that made it his way and he’s hungry. If he were a guy that women often were drawn to he wouldn’t be asking. I spoke too quickly about the conscience. Yes if he was void of one he’d be a socio or psychopath. In this instance he could have a conscie…
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:30 AM
0

How others see something needn’t be your problem. That’s how they see it and therefore their problem.
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:16 AM
1

“Put yourself in the boyfriends shoes”. I’ll ignore the obvious erroneous claim that he’s a boyfriend. OP isn’t sure and neither are we being third party. A man can’t go about his life making his decisions based on how it might make another dude (that he doesn’t even know) feel. Again, you are perhaps projecting or at the least speculating on the nature of their relationship. She is an autonomous human capable of making her own decisions. OP is an autonomous human capable of making his own decis…
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:15 AM
2

And if he has no conscience? What is the “right thing”? Why is it “right” to dictate his actions in this instance based off the potential feelings of another man? If she wants his dick that’s on her. Let her do the right thing, whatever that means. Further nobody knows the subtleties of their relationship. Maybe one doesn’t really exist. Maybe she’s just fucking him and he thinks they have something serious when they don’t. Maybe they are in a committed relationship but she’s bored. Maybe he’s d…
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:15 AM
1

Nah faking anything is a waste. Eventually the mask will come off and there you are. That said, as Lauren Hill said “everyone wears a mask”
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:07 AM
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Not your problem. She’s a big girl and can make her own choices
/r/seduction18/06/20 10:48 PM
1

Books won’t help change your self perception. Not comparing, learning self love and practicing self improvement will. If you had a clone of you and one did what I suggested, and the other just read books, the one that developed a better self perception would feel better about his life and therefore increase his chances with women. No guarantee tho bc let’s be real.
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:53 PM
3

It certainly isn’t. But when I hear this from guys I question it. Most of the guys whom I’ve asked to see photos of just have a hugely poor self perception and in reality they are just fine
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:44 PM
2

I think that’s in your head. I’ve never in my life of talking to women heard “go fuck yourself”. I’ve heard “I’m not interested” which is fine. Despite being fast as hell, not every cheetah gets its kill. I’m not into books and all that bc the most you get out of them is a hole in your wallet.
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:40 PM
2

I was in an argument about this recently and I think it’s like a bell curve with most guys in the large part of the bell, being average looking. While the ends are attributed to “ugly” and “hot”. Looks do play a major role despite what PUA advocates say. Problem is most “normal” guys are just fine and clean up well but are mentally plagued by comparing themselves to models they see on Instagram, which I might point out is a very feminine behavioral trait.
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:38 PM
1

My bad, you had said in your “to sum it up” that you were
/r/seduction18/06/20 03:17 PM
2

Another thing to point out. It sucks but it’s the reality of things: OP you said in the post that you are a very attractive guy. This makes a huge difference in results. Most average guys will be fine too but I wanted to say that looks play sizable a role.
/r/seduction18/06/20 02:59 PM
6

Keep in mind, an entire library of material is worthless without action
/r/seduction18/06/20 02:56 PM
3

“I used to believe I was a great person and people would love me for who I was and eventually the perfect girl would come along” This is the second most debilitating self-diluting belief amongst young men today second only to insecurity. It reeks of entitlement and a lack of honest self reflection. Convincing the self that it’s fine just the way it is with no receipts to back it up is ultimately a poisonous mind set. Success in any venture comes from a seat of not being satisfied with current co…
/r/seduction18/06/20 02:52 PM
1

That’s great man! Hope you come back to your former glory
/r/seduction17/06/20 09:46 PM
1

No. I find interacting with young men here satisfying. Even you
/r/seduction17/06/20 09:09 PM
1

Well at least you’re honest about wanting to waste your time. 🙄
/r/seduction17/06/20 08:51 PM
1

😂
/r/seduction17/06/20 05:08 PM
8

Good job getting out and putting in some action! What I would suggest is asking yourself “why am I scared?” Keep asking why to each honest answer until you get to the bottom.
/r/seduction17/06/20 04:29 PM
2

5 and 6 sounded pretty good. 6 might have been a block with the messaging plan line. Who knows. I’d have still offered her your number. Also, good job at continuing and for giving #5 your number this time!
/r/seduction17/06/20 04:26 PM
0

Ok. You wanna waste your time trying to learn about something you’re not instead of what you are, be my guest. But to compare it to Ancient Greek is a false equivalency. While unnecessary by today’s needs, learning Ancient Greek will actually enrich your life. I wouldn’t exactly put “bad boy approaches” and Ancient Greek in the same boat. Btw- you posted on a public forum where it’s literally all about unsolicited opinions. I just find your motivation more interesting than the question itself.
/r/seduction17/06/20 01:03 PM
1

Yes I am a dick. I am unapologetically a dick. I don’t have to think women will be interested, they are interested. When’s the last time you made a girl cum for you over the phone long before you’ve even laid a finger on her? I bet dollars to donuts it’s been a whole lot of never. I have never advocated not showing interest. I advocate showing honest interest. When you approach she knows you want to fuck. Why else would you be approaching? To talk about pants and where she’s from? Do you really …
/r/seduction17/06/20 12:59 PM
1

For what purpose? Let’s just say that the official representative of bad boys laid out for you the official rules and guides to bad boy approach. Ok the info is done. How is this going to benefit your life? If it’s just to acquire knowledge for the sake of knowledge then you’ve wasted your time. If it’s to use the info then you’ve wasted your time bc you’re not a bad boy. You’d simply be a sheep in wolves clothing. Why don’t you spend the time figuring out how you approach? Wouldn’t that be more…
/r/seduction16/06/20 11:46 PM
4

Yeah if she’s on the phone crying, don’t go talk to her lol
/r/seduction16/06/20 10:05 PM
1

Yeah you just excuse yourself and introduce yourself like any other instance. 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction16/06/20 10:04 PM
0

I Never spend money on a first date. Or if I do it’s very little that goes to a good cause like the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens. She’s there to spend time with me not to be entertained or shown off to. Ice cream, free museums in nyc, a walk through our many parks, etc. My mentor says “I got bubblegum and dick. And I’m all out of bubblegum” 😂 I also have a motorcycle so sometimes if she’s already on my dick she’ll get a ride on my bike
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:35 PM
1

Or just appear to be broke
/r/seduction16/06/20 05:32 PM
6

But we’re not talking true connections. We’re talking crushes, ie infatuation. Pascals quote is infatuation too. Love is great but in its mature form it doesn’t make you crazy or attached. You can still function normally and think clearly.
/r/seduction16/06/20 04:17 PM
10

Crushes are a crutch indeed in many ways. The danger in them lies in fabricated emotional attachment. This leads to ones imagination running the show and preventing any real action
/r/seduction16/06/20 04:14 PM
6

To sum it all up in one phrase: A woman will only do to you what you allow her to.
/r/seduction16/06/20 03:52 PM
3

Yep. The best thing to understand is that not all lions get their prey. Sometimes the zebra gets away. But you just gotta not give a shit. Problem is with young guys these days is that 1) they don’t believe in themselves/crippling insecurity 2) they get emotionally invested right away 3) they are looking for all the tools and tricks to ensure a 0% fail rate You’ve got a good attitude man
/r/seduction16/06/20 12:46 PM
2

The real question is: why do you care? You’re obviously not a bad boy bc if you were you wouldn’t be asking. So that leaves two choices in my mind: 1) it’s for academic reasons like if you’re writing a book or a paper on the subject or 2) it’s because you want to see if people can answer it for you so you can copy it bc you heard that women love bad boys. So why are you bothering to ask?
/r/seduction16/06/20 02:22 AM
2

That’s fine. It’s age old. He just wrapped it in a book. It’s been with men since men. But these days it’s almost necessary bc lots of boys grow up with either an absent father, a father who’s there but is absent or a father that has no principles worthy of copying. So good for whoever wrote Mode 1. Best of luck to you
/r/seduction16/06/20 12:17 AM
1

Ok. Well in your quest for “Mode 1” I highly recommend dropping the PUA nonsense. Stop using techniques and instead ask yourself why you’re interested in using them in the first place. Remember, being genuine stands out. Most girls get hit on by lots of guys. This turns into study of us such that when we approach we get put in a box and easily discarded if they choose. When you are genuine and fearless of any outcome you can’t be put in a box.
/r/seduction15/06/20 11:02 PM
1

Ok man. Just be careful. That’s all I’m saying. Part of being careful is not manipulating women with gimmicks. And now you sound like you’re justifying. How would you want your son to be? Would you want him to use tricks to get women’s panties off by stacking (whatever the heck that is) and with openers? Or would you want him to be a bad mutha fucka that women just submit to on their own free will? I’m coming at you because I see flaws in your thinking and potential dangers in your future. You a…
/r/seduction15/06/20 09:56 PM
1

No it’s not if it’s presented as something you do/hobby. After chatting a bit and there’s some sort of comfort, I often say “I have an interesting side hobby”. After she expresses interest I tell her “I write erotic short stories but I’m not sure they are for you”. Depending on the vibe you can leave off the teasing. But by the numbers girls love erotic writing. The highest selling genre of literature are romance novels. Gross sales dominate any other genre. It’s only weird if you think it is. I…
/r/seduction15/06/20 05:43 PM
6

Hit up girls online. Forget the old mantra that texting is for setting dates only. Learn how to get flirty via text. Get her to play along and you two might have some fun. Another thing you can and should learn to do is write erotic poetry and erotic short stories. It turns women on incredibly. If she likes one story, get her on the phone to listen to another while she plays with herself. Much better than dirty talk because it has the power of creating a whole setting and mood. For inspiration c…
/r/seduction15/06/20 05:10 PM
1

I don’t deal with acronyms and levels and all that shit. I have no idea what you’re talking about. It seems like you operate from learned tactics rather that what’s naturally inside you as a man. Fact is she resisted you multiple times. This should have been a signal to you that you’re doing something wrong. Not right. If you get in trouble the police isn’t gonna give a rats ass what your book said was the “right” way because you were operating on level ice cream and used the zebra tactic. Ideal…
/r/seduction15/06/20 03:52 PM
1

After you opened the gates it’s no surprise she behaved differently. My point is that you pushed her to your will despite the obvious signs of resistance evenbefore your clothes were off. I say this as a warning bc this could be constituted as rape in some people’s perspectives and could get you into a lot of trouble. I say this as a warning. You didn’t succeed. You got lucky. Proper seduction is you talking her up such that you engage her feelings and make her wet without touching her. Make her…
/r/seduction15/06/20 01:58 PM
1

Every move you made she resisted. This isn’t seduction. Seduction is about making her want to come to you. This reads that you forced yourself on an introverted nice girl who lacked the self esteem to put up more firm boundaries. Every signal she gave you was one of disinterest yet you kept pushing until she broke down. This doesn’t make you cool. This makes you a fucking twat.
/r/seduction15/06/20 01:31 PM
1

Stop worrying about what she’s doing and worry about what you’re doing
/r/seduction15/06/20 12:50 AM
1

Jesus Christ. Go do something else. Who gives a fuck. Especially down to the minute. Jesus
/r/seduction15/06/20 12:50 AM
2

Ok. So why was #6 “more successful”? It’s because there was a bit of natural flirtatious energy. All your others blow out bc you offer no flirtatious energy. You are some random guy approaching them with normal conversation because..........? 🤷‍♂️ You feel me? The natural energy that was in #6 can be created with others. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s honest to show sexual gentlemanly intent. It’s dishonest to ask about helmets and clipboards unless you’re some freak helmet and …
/r/seduction14/06/20 11:43 PM
1

Being honest is showing your sexual intent in a gentlemanly way. After all, you wanting to have sex with her is why you’re approaching. Yet tons of men choose to hide this. Why? You’re confusing the matter. She knows why you’re approaching but you’ve got this unclear and dishonest approach that is frankly confusing the situation needlessly. You don’t care about her book or her clothes. If you want to say something physical, mention something from her shoulders on up. But it’s not about what you …
/r/seduction14/06/20 02:51 PM
1

Haha me too
/r/seduction14/06/20 02:44 PM
2

No league exists. She’s had explosive diarrhea just like you
/r/seduction14/06/20 02:17 PM
1

Yep
/r/seduction14/06/20 02:16 PM
2

I’ve invested in Trojan stock
/r/seduction14/06/20 01:13 PM
1

Yes exactly. But here’s the real deal: you have to truly not give a shit about her, what she thinks or what she does. All that matters is that you gave her a crumb of what it might be like to spend time with you. As a short metaphor: could you imagine James Bond asking for a woman’s number? I can’t.
/r/seduction14/06/20 01:12 PM
4

I didn’t say don’t approach. Yes of course it’s your job to approach. Didn’t say that. It’s not your job to grovel and beg for her information. It’s called putting your bid in not asking to put your bid in. It’s similar to putting in a bid for a freelance contract: you say here’s my credentials, this is what I can do and this is what you’ll get. You don’t ask “please can I work on your project”. When and if they call back has everything to do with how you approach (not lying and say you like the…
/r/seduction13/06/20 03:11 PM
8

I like what you are doing as far as not over thinking and just going for it. I’ll give a quick tip for use: don’t ask for a woman’s number. In fact, don’t ask a woman for anything. Give her your number. If you wanna get really trick, get an electronic business card from Amazon. Designed for businesspeople but it can be used for approaching. It’s basically a profile on a card and you take the card and tap it to their phone and your info is instantly displayed for them. I’ll give you another tip: …
/r/seduction13/06/20 02:46 PM
4

I’m 42 and been in this game for a while. I see nothing wrong with what he’s said. There’s nuance that isn’t touched on for sure. But simply going for a girl is just this simple. Often its just the guys head that gets in the way. *this applies for most average looking fellas
/r/seduction13/06/20 01:56 PM
1

Curious. What are you implying?
/r/seduction13/06/20 01:16 PM
1

I’ll make a point and maybe it’ll get you thinking: Your entire post is about your shortcomings, whether real or imagined.
/r/seduction13/06/20 04:40 AM
2

Absolutely not. Respect is an entirely other dynamic that takes a lot of time and effort to develop. Some real foxhole type shit. Attachment really has no place in a mans heart as far as women are concerned whether you are with them a day or 10 years. Attachment to anything is poison. This does not mean a man can’t feel deeply for her. It just means that when it’s time for her to go or time for him to go, that’s it. And it’s done. Love can totally exist without attachment. They are not synonymou…
/r/seduction13/06/20 01:51 AM
1

For sure dude. I was just speaking in general
/r/seduction13/06/20 01:47 AM
3

I love each woman I am with in the same way I love a body of water or a fantastic hotel bed. Guess I’m enlightened. What’s funny is when you get to that place you are free to love openly without issue or consequence. Now respect is a whole other ball of wax...
/r/seduction13/06/20 12:06 AM
2

Your problem isn’t women; it’s how you’ve come up to perceive them and value them. If you really want to get at it you gotta dig inside you, “stand in front of the mirror” and fearlessly investigate your relationship with women starting from childhood (likely).
/r/seduction12/06/20 09:42 PM
7

No that is not the only way. That’s one way perhaps for you.
/r/seduction12/06/20 09:40 PM
1

Depends on what you mean when you say “what to offer”. Also a guy who has more to offer will be smart enough to hold back and only give his dick until the women have displayed qualities that would warrant more.
/r/seduction12/06/20 05:19 AM
6

That by no means stops anyone. Ever hear of cityxguide?
/r/seduction12/06/20 05:15 AM
1

Truly ugly men are rare. It’s also subjective. Yes it’s true a truly ugly man will get no play. It is what it is. I do not promote PUA nonsense. I promote getting real with oneself and becoming more self absorbed to the point that women become a perk of life, not a focus. And if you’re ugly then if you get to that level of development you won’t care anyways. Do what suits you best buddy.
/r/seduction11/06/20 05:14 PM
2

Yes and this is why I’m doing the thing that I DMd you about. It goes deeper than even knowing the steps bc if he has no concept of frame as you call it, no copied action will do much.
/r/seduction11/06/20 05:05 PM
1

That’s actually close to a field I wish I had studied but more in the history of how and why words come I to use and why some fall away or change. And the developments of languages from one to another. As far as frame goes I do not like terminology. Young people seem to get hung up on words and definitions which end up in mental cock fights and the real issues don’t get dealt with because of semantics. And these days it’s filled with em plus acronyms upon acronyms. And most of those armchair phi…
/r/seduction11/06/20 03:33 PM
1

So it seems having frame as you describe it is just being a man as I have been raised to understand it. It also sounds very much like what I mean when I say “self centered”. But by what you’re saying being self conscious is is the same as being self centered and it’s inescapable. So does that mean frame is not true/not possible or is “everyone is self conscious not true”. Can’t be both. In your description you only really describe self consciousness and then conflate it with self centered. Self …
/r/seduction11/06/20 02:17 PM
1

This is what you tell yourself to feel better bc you don’t have women in your life. I could be wrong but your aggro seems oddly displaced. What man gets upset at pixels? What man shouts attempted insults across the internet? Listen, if you are doing well financially and feel good about the habits in your life and you choose when to have women around you bc they are just waiting at your door to get in, then good for you man. What you describe is how I live my life: I run two small businesses and …
/r/seduction11/06/20 01:56 PM
1

Yes and if you read what I said before Mr Grumpyballs, I said an average looking guy can do just fine. You don’t need to be an underwear model to get women. I also said if you’re truly unattractive it’s going to be very difficult. The bigger problem I have seen is that an average guy has such low value perceptions of himself (partly due to social media saturation) that he could be a 7 and think he’s a 4. Are you a 4? Are you a truly ugly dude who’s just super pissed off at god for making you ugl…
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:00 PM
1

Having your mind focused on what others are thinking is exactly the opposite of of being self absorbed/self centered. What’s frame?
/r/seduction11/06/20 11:49 AM
1

Right. So that’s why you’re here? To learn better masturbation techniques. You’re a paper tiger Hitting them walls is totally different. So I’ll just assume you’re a virgin
/r/seduction11/06/20 11:47 AM
1

I agree except with your first line. A self centered person thinks only of himself. You’re right in the sense that their minds are always projecting into other people’s minds, wondering what they are thinking. This is the opposite of being self centered. It’s other centered. Centered on everyone except themselves.
/r/seduction11/06/20 03:59 AM
1

You really could use a blow job. It shows. When’s the last time you busted a nut in a girls mouth? It has to have been a while bro. You sound wicked angry. Like balls exploding angry. But you think too low of your appearance and are lashing out. Sorry to hear that. Blow jobs are the best. Chicks don’t dig aggressive angst.
/r/seduction11/06/20 02:14 AM
1

Yes! You started seeing results when? When your attention became you. None of these cheese-wads will recognize this bc all they can think about is getting laid and having external validation through women
/r/seduction11/06/20 02:11 AM
1

Why not both? But if you’re not interested in pussy big man... . . . . . What you doin on a seduction sub? 👍
/r/seduction11/06/20 02:07 AM
1

Not gonna say. Your smart-ass attitude got a smart-ass response from me. You said to “tell us to do it right”. So that’s what I did. I told you to do it right. Now you want to come back and ask questions as if you weren’t being a sarcastic, passive aggressive retard? Sit down.
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:02 AM
1

You need some pussy. You sound a little pent up
/r/seduction10/06/20 11:53 PM
1

Nope. No rage at all. I’m pretty relaxed in real life. I simply tire of the ignorance of dudes looking for a tip or a trick or some fast fix to a problem they aren’t even seeing. Too many guys up in their feelings. Too many guys looking for a hand to hold and a pat on the head. My school is old school- no gimmicks. Just get real with yourself and get to work. I’m just being myself. There’s no superiority act. So if one feels inferior based on my regular personality it’s actually a red flag for t…
/r/seduction10/06/20 10:44 PM
-7

Damn, do you really consider all that mental shit? I usually figure if my dick is in her mouth she likes me well enough.
/r/seduction10/06/20 10:26 PM
1

And that is part of the mission of my soon-to-be released podcast: to heal these little cunts with firm but caring punches to the chest
/r/seduction10/06/20 10:24 PM
65

Yeah that’s a common sales technique
/r/seduction10/06/20 10:04 PM
1

Ok. Do it right
/r/seduction10/06/20 08:24 PM
1

I am indeed a wizard but being a wizard isn’t necessary to know if a girl isn’t interested in you. Refer to my exhaustive list in the response to our illustrious OP
/r/seduction10/06/20 07:31 PM
0

This is just dumb. It’s quite clear when a woman isn’t interested: She says no to plans She doesn’t text you She doesn’t call you She doesn’t suck your dick She doesn’t fuck you It’s that simple. If a guy doesn’t understand logic that clear they should just stop going after women.
/r/seduction10/06/20 07:29 PM
-9

Really dude? You need a reddit discussion to sort out the signs if a woman isn’t interested in you? This is like a new level of dense. Either that or you’re just bored and wanted to make a topic.
/r/seduction10/06/20 05:33 PM
1

Yeah this is just regurgitated 90s PUA outdated nonsense
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:36 PM
1

Stop watching porn. Talk to all kinds of people
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:32 PM
2

Disagree wholeheartedly. I get girls to start fantasizing and getting sexual up to the point of making them play with themselves and cumming for me. There is a reason that smutty romance novels are the top selling genre in literature. I write girls erotic poetry and erotic short stories. They fucking love it. If you can make her wet in person while talking then you can do it over text. Do this and I guarantee she’ll be thinking about you 100x more than every other chump who says “texting is only…
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:28 PM
1

Why is this cut and pasted? Are you a bot?
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:12 PM
1

Well then it seems like you have lost before you’ve even begun
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:11 PM
1

Not usually unless they have ample reason to
/r/seduction10/06/20 01:51 PM
2

I know my reply was harsh but I’m a harsh kinda guy. I did congratulate you for the consistent approaches. Many guys can’t even do that and they just sit back and quote shit from books written by guys who don’t have women. And while your efforts of movement are great, the aspect of them saying they had boyfriends should not go unnoticed. More often than not, this is a defense strategy used by women. Which begs the question: why are they using it? Here, let me ask you this so maybe you can unders…
/r/seduction10/06/20 05:12 AM
2

The fuck is an IOI?
/r/seduction10/06/20 04:48 AM
1

What’s that gonna do? You already know it would be futile
/r/seduction10/06/20 04:40 AM
1

Uh just ask him if he want to meet you for a coffee or whatever. What’s with kids these days?
/r/seduction10/06/20 04:37 AM
7

Deep discussions are great but you mix it up by rolling in jokes and making her blush. Making her think is great, it’s just one third of the content you should have. Remember, the guy is the leader and the guide for the interaction. Take responsibility
/r/seduction10/06/20 04:35 AM
1

The last pussy I ate
/r/seduction10/06/20 04:31 AM
30

Same. There was so much there I couldnt even get past the admitting of being afraid of females
/r/seduction10/06/20 04:28 AM
1

Why are you ever nervous about taking to a woman??
/r/seduction09/06/20 11:27 PM
1

Nope. I’m a grown man, not a 12 year old. I think if posts don’t meet certain criteria they are removed.
/r/seduction08/06/20 07:45 PM
2

No. Don’t wait for a better situation. Go out and talk to women and create a better situation
/r/seduction08/06/20 05:58 PM
5

So you acknowledge a trap then ask, “what’s the best way to walk into it?” 😂
/r/seduction08/06/20 05:57 PM
1

Yep. Excuses upon excuses. More pussy for me 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction08/06/20 04:51 PM
1

Which means you’re doing something wrong. Talking to women and turning them on via conversation is the basis one must become comfortable with.
/r/seduction08/06/20 04:51 PM
2

Well your first problem isn’t your race. It’s the fact that you use a poor external set of data (women) to determine or effect your sense of value and confidence.
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:51 PM
1

Yes you’re young and there are so many layers of misinformation and useless conditioning evident in what you just typed here, that I can’t even get it out. I’d need my own sub/r for it. Just ask yourself this: is what you’re doing working for you (not your friends. You). My guess would be no. Which means you gotta do something else.
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:49 PM
2

Wrong. Moderately attractive is all that’s necessary and self value vibes. Yes, if you’re truly unattractive it’ll be very hard. But I’ve seen some fucked up self analysis on this where guys think they are a 4/5 and they are actually a 7/8
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:25 PM
1

Precisely
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:24 PM
9

This is on point. And you are correct. Problem for most young guys is not the intellectual understanding of this. It’s the emotional attachment that’s created with a deep seeded issue usually stemming from a childhood situation. Not giving a shit is as easy as hitting a light switch but it’s not for a lot of guys for the reason I explained above.
/r/seduction08/06/20 11:50 AM
3

You need to figure out why you’ve got early on attachment issues instead of adopting mental techniques to fight it. Adopt a technique and you’ll always be fighting it.
/r/seduction08/06/20 11:38 AM
1

I read the whole story man. Unfortunately it’s been locked and I can’t go back. Pretty sure this girl from years ago didn’t approach you again. Pretty sure another user asked you what happened and you said nothing because you didn’t put in your bid but something might happen (or some shit like that). Then I prodded your story and you basically told me to call down and it happened years ago. So which is it? Did this happen somewhat recently and you still “might put your bid in” and you lied to me…
/r/seduction08/06/20 11:35 AM
1

Sorry bud. You told a story. I put your back against the wall trying to figure it out. Your excuse was that it was from years ago yet your response to another person was as if it was happening recently. So if it’s true that it happened years ago, you’re saying something might still happen.... From years ago. You’re full of shit. Keep walking
/r/seduction08/06/20 11:20 AM
0

They do have the same sexual instincts. It’s called procreation. Your examples of why a guy can’t approach are excuses and superfluous. Social circle excuse is poor as well. But you sound young and inexperienced so you get a pass. Why is it fine if she treats two different looking guys the same and not ok if she treats them differently? Who made you Behavior Guardian of the Universe?? A girls gonna act how a girls gonna act.
/r/seduction08/06/20 11:17 AM
1

But that just projecting. How do you know what she’s thinking? Just look at the supposed interaction: they shared looks, she approached. You’re branching out into hypotheticals and making generalities. But if you want to go that route go ahead. You “condemning” that shit isn’t gonna change some girls mind. I’ve only seen that nonsense in the movies. And just checking out a girl and not doing anything is potentially creepy. You know you have the sexual instinct and so does she. Yet the guy does n…
/r/seduction08/06/20 05:39 AM
1

I also think you’re fucking lying bc another user asked if anything happened and you were like “well I never put my bid in but we’ll see what happens”. We’ll see what happens from a look she gave you, and a failed attempt to talk to you from “years ago”?? C’mon man...
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:08 AM
1

Huh? I said fail at the end bc according to your story she didn’t just check you out. She opened the door for you, dusted off the welcome mat and invited you in. What did you do? You answered her question. 😒 I bet you $100 the interested looks stopped after that and she never approached you again.
/r/seduction08/06/20 01:01 AM
1

There’s a lot to it and no there’s no quick fix. No tips. Nothing you can adopt. No gimmicks. No lines. It has to do with your presence as a man. It has to do with you being a sexual person and having the sense to express it in a smooth way. Your question can’t be answered just in the sense a surgeon couldn’t just sit down and explain how to do a triple bypass. He could but the explanation would do nothing for you until you were at his level and once there the explanation would be worthless to y…
/r/seduction08/06/20 12:44 AM
2

Good for you!
/r/seduction08/06/20 12:39 AM
1

I don’t get it. So you’ve made a post about looking at girls and not talking to them from years ago and adding this as a bit of advice in a seduction sub. Word I’m only talking about the one girl you talked about. Of course I’m going to respond to just this. It’s the only girl you mention.
/r/seduction08/06/20 12:38 AM
4

Who cares? You know who cares? Ugly guys who know the reality of life: that largely people like hot men and women. Suck it up! And isn’t judging someone based on a username just as discriminating?
/r/seduction07/06/20 09:29 PM
6

You’re still not getting it. Attraction is what gets your attention. This is 100% visual. If you walk into a bar with a blindfold on, how will you know you’re in the midst of an attractive girl? Visual is how initial attraction works. This is why hot women have thousands more IG followers than unattractive women. This is why marketing uses pretty people in advertising. I can’t believe I have to actually explain this. Now after you get to know someone, if all you’re after is an attractive partner…
/r/seduction07/06/20 09:27 PM
0

Now look who’s being shallow. Judging a users personality and values based on a username on Reddit of all places. Hypocrisy much?
/r/seduction07/06/20 09:16 PM
1

Explain how from across a room, seeing a girl for the first time, will you be attracted to her if she was wearing a bag over her head and a big cloak covering her body. Go ahead. I’ll wait
/r/seduction07/06/20 09:14 PM
-4

You said “discrimination”. Implying you were upset by her or any woman’s choices. You’re an asshat Why would I check her profile? Only morons do that shit.
/r/seduction07/06/20 08:49 PM
-5

Discrimination? So you feel an ugly guy (for example) is “entitled” to attractive women just as much as attractive men are? Are you dense?
/r/seduction07/06/20 08:31 PM
0

It’s not liking/not liking. It’s initial attraction dumbass. She’s not gonna look at you and say “golly, he’s probably a great guy”. That’s impossible. Just like you can’t say the same for a girl. Not only that but attraction and arousal is instinctual. It’s not a choice. Therefore it can’t be shallow.
/r/seduction07/06/20 08:18 PM
-14

Shallowness? Are you on crack? A girl is entitled to be attracted to a guy, and not attracted to a guy...dumbass mutha fucka.
/r/seduction07/06/20 07:41 PM
3

Actually you missed the ice breaker. She sees people noticing her ass all the time. When she approached you that was your time to say something flirtatious. Fail
/r/seduction07/06/20 07:38 PM
3

Possessions and success are physical attributes my man. I was hoping you were gonna say your ability to make her laugh and blush. Those are examples of non physical ways to attract a girl. Women essentially follow their feelings. Yes, seeing a tall guy generates a feeling. Handsome does too. So do muscles and social standing. As do cars and financial prowess. But so does humor, a no bullshit attitude, and the ability to flirt comfortably. They all can appeal to attraction. But I will add that th…
/r/seduction07/06/20 07:33 PM
5

A good catch and attraction are two different things
/r/seduction07/06/20 03:54 PM
1

Attraction is easy. It requires emotional stimulation not money. You are correct
/r/seduction07/06/20 03:53 PM
2

Correct. Except the part about “approaching and social ability”. That comes naturally as a result not a separate aspect of training. All external battles are illusions. The only fight that is real is the one we have with ourselves. So despite having this or that, if a guy isn’t a man- (basically a guy who is comfortable in his own skin and knows his principles/morals/codes and is free to think for himself), he really doesn’t have anything at all. It can sound very new age “woo woo” bullshit but …
/r/seduction07/06/20 08:00 AM
1

Yes it’s an illusion. Consider this: The woman may not give up the pussy for whatever reason (doesn’t matter). This reality should stop here. But it doesn’t The man conjures up the friendzone. She doesn’t create it. He does
/r/seduction06/06/20 01:19 PM
1

Please young one. Point out a single derogatory, exclusionist, sexist, or misogynistic line from my posts in this thread. Try to show me evidence. I triple dog dare you. The only time I actually reference women directly is when I said that women love being around a man who is comfortable in his own skin and is genuine. You don’t like this? Perhaps instead you like guys who use “game”? Who try to be your friend first (lies). Who try to get you to be comfortable by posing as a non-sexual entity (l…
/r/seduction06/06/20 01:15 PM
-64

Haha! I’ve never seen so many downvotes in my life. Did I accidentally press a button?? 😂 Y’all dudes need to get out and actually see a pussy in front of your noses once in a while
/r/seduction05/06/20 11:44 PM
1

First class is for pussies who dick around hoping the girl will eventually like them. It’s dishonest, “indirect game” bullshit. Friend zone is highly likely from that camp. Second camp can strike out for sure but at least you’re honest. It feels unnatural because you’ve had years of social conditioning that teaches you to be out of touch with your sexual nature. When you become in touch with your innate sexual nature, are not afraid to express it in a charming manner and are also not bothered by…
/r/seduction05/06/20 09:04 PM
9

Yes, do everything but all efforts being equal, you’ll have better success talking to a girl in real life. Flirting works 100 times better in person vs online
/r/seduction05/06/20 08:46 PM
-197

There’s tons of hot women everywhere online. That doesn’t change the fact that irl approaching has a much higher impact than online
/r/seduction05/06/20 08:44 PM
10

It’s also a great way to exercise verbal skills
/r/seduction05/06/20 07:45 PM
1

They’re real enough. There’s just no law you gotta follow them
/r/seduction05/06/20 05:46 PM
5

He probably didn’t even pick up on that
/r/seduction05/06/20 05:00 PM
3

Norms are just norms. It’s up to you if you wish to follow them or not.
/r/seduction05/06/20 04:59 PM
25

You’ll be creepy not because you are a cashier. You’ll be creepy if you’re creepy. You’ve already admitted to not knowing how to flirt. Being creepy comes from being creepy, not because you have a job.
/r/seduction05/06/20 04:59 PM
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I don’t think we’re on the same side bc I’m only on my side. You are in the side of groups that use stupid terms. And if you are strong inside then there’s no concept of the word nor is there any need for use of terminology. It begs the question: why are you? I don’t have terminology. Men have no use for such things. Each man is in a class of his own. Make your own damn terminology if you must. Stop parroting that nonsense.
/r/seduction05/06/20 03:09 PM
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It is a problem. You know what’s faking it? Having a mindset like “frames” and “inner game” and all that other nonsense. Framing is an external mental position that is attempted to be worn in the hopes that it will change your insecurities and hang ups. Stop parroting. MEN don’t have or adopt fucking frames. They are a frame. And no, it’s not only about how you say shit. What you say and how you say it are equally important. What really must be remembered is: you can’t learn what to say or how t…
/r/seduction05/06/20 02:51 PM
1

Yep. Just go talk to women irl
/r/seduction05/06/20 02:39 PM
1

It can work this way but you’ll have to be really solid in yourself, not give a shit about her or any women for that matter, know how to spit flavor in her ear, know how to make her laugh, blush and think and stand on your principles. When she can plainly see you are an opportunity she’ll give you her number. The other way it goes is you walk up, excuse yourself, introduce yourself like a gentleman, talk to her briefly and show her who you are and what you’re about. Then give her your number. Le…
/r/seduction05/06/20 02:36 PM
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Nope. Do NOT fucking ask her for her number. You give her yours either directly, via a business card or if you wanna be really fucking smooth, you buy an electronic business card. It’s a card made for business people but you can use it instead for dating. Basically it’s a profile on a card. You tap the card on her phone and it beams her a short profile of you as well as your contact info. And if you are really on point with being honest and smooth and standing on your square, she will ask for yo…
/r/seduction05/06/20 02:26 PM
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Healthy human bonding experiences require actual human experiences, duh. You’re answering your own question. If dating apps are out, what are you left with? C’mon man. Just go talk to women
/r/seduction05/06/20 02:23 PM
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Stop using online shit. Get out of the safety of your phone and go talk to real women. Not girls who also hide behind their phone (and filters). Doing this will separate you from all the other guys who are not getting out and talking to girls. Go face real fucking rejection. It also is a fuck ton easier to flirt and move the convo to sexual subjects
/r/seduction05/06/20 02:20 PM
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It does start with recognizing the problem and admitting to yourself you’re being a little bitch. Then you gotta routinely investigate your past and discover what happened (most likely in your childhood) that set the stage for you wanting the approval of others (most likely mommy). Another look would be to investigate not only why you seek approval but why you are afraid of people disapproving. One must also come to the understanding that most people really don’t care what’s in your head or what…
/r/seduction05/06/20 01:50 PM
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Only doing it will help. A book won’t help just as much as me saying to do the work won’t help. The only thing that helps is taking the time to find out why you have issues. You don’t need a book for this. You need effort and willingness to look at your shadow and ego.
/r/seduction05/06/20 12:58 PM
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Nope. You projected your own insecurities or pre conceived notions into what I said. Nowhere actually did I say society or even imply it. Fuck what society thinks or expects. It’s all about you. And that’s all. 99% of losers will think it’s external. So some of them will get fit, get good on their finances, win the “respect” of their peers and family, gain the attention of women. And guess what- They’re still losers. Why? Because in reality...the only reality that matters; They haven’t done shit…
/r/seduction05/06/20 11:58 AM
4

Bullshit tactics that have a home in insecurity
/r/seduction05/06/20 03:29 AM
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Went through it years ago. The basis for all of it is caring what other people think. You really got to spend concerted time reprogramming your mind to not give a shit what other people think. It’s slow but can happen quickly but in any case, conscious effort must happen. The other thing you must internalize is that most people don’t think even half of what you think they are. To put it plainly, most people don’t give a shit about you and your thoughts. Worrying about what they think is a self i…
/r/seduction04/06/20 11:34 PM
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No book or video will “cure” you because you don’t have an illness that can be fixed with treatment. You need to do a deep dive into yourself and objectively analyze your past as to why you are needy in the first place. Not doing this will make your efforts forever useless. Start there
/r/seduction04/06/20 06:10 PM
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Catching feelings too soon is a problem you created. I would investigate why that happens to you. In my book a woman must earn my feelings for her. Why? Bc it’s a big deal. I don’t go tossing shit around like candy just bc a chick likes me
/r/seduction03/06/20 09:07 PM
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Just walk. Why would you want to spend time with anyone who isn’t interested in spending time with you?
/r/seduction03/06/20 08:46 PM
3

Maybe bc I’m older but I simply don’t give a shit. I am who I am no matter where I am or who my company is. When Hugh Jackman walks into a room, no matter what the room, does he bend to the environment or is it the other way around? He’s just Hugh no matter where he is. I’m not Hugh Jackman but how I sit with myself is how I imagine he sits with himself. Be the temperature not the thermometer.
/r/seduction03/06/20 05:41 PM
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Jail is a false parallel completely bc if an inmate doesn’t adhere to the environment he is punished, thrown in solitary or killed
/r/seduction03/06/20 03:34 PM
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Your examples actually strengthen my point. A soldier is a soldier and relies on himself and his team no matter if they are in Afghanistan or Uganda. Same with a doctor. Sure you must adapt to stimuli but knowing how to do this skillfully takes internal development. Not some external lesson. Most guys who are not men are constantly looking outside themselves and bend who they are to meet the needs of who is around them; to meet the needs of the environment. I am the same man toward women no matt…
/r/seduction03/06/20 03:20 PM
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There’s no style! YOU are your own style mutha fucka! Fuck Todd and all the rest of em. If that works for Todd then congrats to him. He is not you. You must be your own “Todd”.
/r/seduction03/06/20 02:20 PM
1

Really? Climb in there and see what happens Besides which, you are missing the point. Here’s another one: is James Bond the same or different whether he’s in France or Bolivia? Whether he’s with a bad ass bitch or with a quiet nice girl? Or against a world dominator or a weapons dealer? No.
/r/seduction03/06/20 02:16 PM
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If you’re asking these questions here you definitely do not get it. Techniques and standard game that has been sold to you will not change who you are. You must understand that you are your biggest selling technique. The main problem for most guys is that they don’t rely on themselves (which requires knowing who you are) and rely on external sources to “fix” their female problems. Bullshit artists like Todd V do not address this issue bc they can’t. Only the man can address his own self. To mayb…
/r/seduction03/06/20 02:06 PM
2

My MO is me. I am the Modus operandi. Think about that for a bit
/r/seduction03/06/20 01:50 PM
3

No it is not. “Pick up” (Lol) is highly dependent on the man not the environment my brother. A lion is a lion whether he is on the Serengeti or in a zoo. If you know who you are and stand on your principles one can talk to women anywhere you damn well please. In fact my thought on this plays into the greatest and most popular love fantasy women have which is “going about daily mundane shit and out of nowhere this guy says hi or picks up this thing I dropped or we bumped into each other”. Only do…
/r/seduction03/06/20 01:43 PM
1

The street. Stores. Laundromat. Gas station. Malls. Basically anywhere people are my man
/r/seduction03/06/20 01:39 PM
1

They don’t use it unless you give them reason to
/r/seduction03/06/20 04:20 AM
1

Getting girls numbers? What is this, 1990? Don’t harvest numbers. Give them yours
/r/seduction02/06/20 09:31 PM
2

Which goes to show how much need there is here. Assholes like Todd tell you what you want to hear to sell shit, not what you need to hear.
/r/seduction02/06/20 09:28 PM
0

Can we stop sharing this washed up trolls content?
/r/seduction01/06/20 10:36 PM
4

You knew from the get go that you weren’t interested. You weren’t honest. Went with it bc you were probably bored and liked the attention. Maybe not. Him getting upset is him being a bitch frankly.
/r/seduction31/05/20 09:28 PM
1

If you keep at it you’ll come to realize that women aren’t a problem and they’re really not much to lose focus over.
/r/seduction31/05/20 06:13 PM
1

Relax man. Take that anger and put it to useful action to create change. Stop putting women on a pedestal! Your life will not be better with a woman. It’s just be you and your life with this person next to you. A girlfriend won’t make you fit or better financed or more confident. Quit thinking about them so much and be your own hero.
/r/seduction31/05/20 12:09 PM
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First, It’s not cynicism at all. It’s reality bud. I’m not trying to knock OP; just being honest. Second, did I mention women at all? Go look, I’ll wait. You are looking at this wrong my friend. This game has nothing to do with women at all. You only think that bc you’re on the ground. It’s like war: ask a grunt that’s toured once or twice and they’ll say war is about guns and bombs and winning and defending. Ask a lifetime military vet and they will tell you a completely different story. You ar…
/r/seduction31/05/20 12:05 PM
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I would agree and simply add: always “risk it all”. Always talk to any girl, crush or not with the understanding that she can be gone in a snap either by her choice or yours and it shouldn’t matter. But frankly this kid is just too young and crushing on girls. He’s still dancing around wondering if she likes him. Fuck it if a girl likes you or not. Who cares what they think of you. All that matters is if you’ve come correct and genuinely. If she digs, cool. If not, cool.
/r/seduction31/05/20 01:34 AM
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Two things. 1) stop calling yourself a loser. Self speak is very powerful bc it goes straight to the subconscious. 2) the reality is that maybe you’re not cut out for this game. Not all males are made out to be men. It’s harsh but you might just not have it in you. That said, you might just be a late bloomer. Here’s the thing: being a man is a daily grind. It’s hard work every day. No one will do the work for you and there is no magic video or book that will “fix” you. It’s akin to becoming a su…
/r/seduction31/05/20 12:55 AM
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The advice to get amped by your own pursuits is good but a girl(s) isn’t just gonna fall in your lap unless you’re a top percenter. You must take action. Women are not scary. Get out there. Get rejected. Learn to be comfortable through repetition
/r/seduction29/05/20 03:02 PM
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The best place to start is the mirror. No amount of “outer game” (ppffft lol), will fix what is misaligned with you. Just getting LeBron James’ sneakers won’t make you a baller
/r/seduction28/05/20 05:48 PM
1

DMing you
/r/seduction27/05/20 03:35 AM
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Yeah bc it’s grown. Guys have realized that adopting tactics doesn’t necessarily change who they are. They’ve become a loser who has great openers. Putting a hat on a pig won’t change the fact that it’s still a pig
/r/seduction27/05/20 01:55 AM
1

Stop shilling for a washed up con boy
/r/seduction27/05/20 01:53 AM
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Nope. Quite the opposite. Work on what actually needs working on instead of adding in useless garbage like “faking it” bc you’re still gonna be left with yourself at the end of each day.
/r/seduction26/05/20 04:50 PM
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This is a multi faceted issue that goes deeper in yourself than you think. I won’t write a whole lot bc it’s best to keep things simple. The fist step is not giving a shit what others think of you. This is simple yet hard. It’s hard because in doing so it will conjure up all kinds of inner structures in your mind, holding firm on certain ego investments; usually centered around self value. Start there. If you don’t do this step, no amount of books or videos will help you bc at that point it’s ak…
/r/seduction26/05/20 03:40 PM
2

Disagree completely. Too many fakery and lying to oneself already. No need to pile on more simply for a wet hole the size of a quarter
/r/seduction26/05/20 03:37 PM
6

No. Don’t
/r/seduction26/05/20 03:36 PM
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This is utter bullshit. OP you have no clue Every frame is TERRIBLE advice and has nothing to do with seduction. It belongs over in r/wettowels or some shit
/r/seduction25/05/20 01:52 PM
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Ha! You don't know me at all. I do have an advantage but its from hard fucking work. Anyone can develop their own but it is far from easy. You will never hear me say it is. But thats the point: young guys today are always looking for a shortcut. Shortcuts are like putting pearls on a pig. I'll say it again: getting women has nothing to do with women. In fact, more women will come through the more you don't make it about them. Guys who make a wet hole the size of a quarter their focus can be smel…
/r/seduction23/05/20 04:18 PM
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Smh. It’s useless bc these “tactics” and all the other crap just like it may “work” for a limited time. But the fact that a man needs to go this route should be an indication that something else is wrong. Usually he’ll watch a different PUA guru or read another book. But that indication is really saying that he is the problem. You see golf is a bad metaphor bc it is an external game that can be perfected whether you have low or high self esteem (and if you think all pro athletes have a high rega…
/r/seduction23/05/20 03:22 PM
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Read my other response to the OP
/r/seduction23/05/20 03:03 PM
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This shit and all the shit just like it but branded differently is worthless. I’ll tell you why: If you’re a pud, none of his stupid chart will “work”; making it worthless. Or if on the off chance it does, how long before she realizes you’re a fake? If you’re not a pud, then you have no need, therefore making it worthless.
/r/seduction22/05/20 11:12 PM
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But it’s worthless.
/r/seduction22/05/20 11:09 PM
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By being comfortable in your own sexuality and setting the stage such that she can feel comfortable too. It requires getting to know yourself and not putting her first; acting because it’s what you want to do bc it’s fun and stimulating. Not because you want her to like you. How is a simple question but has a very complicated answer.
/r/seduction21/05/20 06:21 PM
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Depends on setting the mood. Having her know from the get go that you are a sexual being and completely comfortable expressing it.
/r/seduction21/05/20 06:18 PM
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Disagree wholeheartedly. I make girls masturbate and cum for me just through text alone. It’s a simply a tool. It doesn’t have one function. I can use a screwdriver in multiple ways. The “only for logistics” is a parroted bit of nonsense. However, to get to the point at what I described above requires setting the correct vibe
/r/seduction21/05/20 03:12 PM
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No. Never ask why she’s doing this or that. She’s not responding because she’s not comfortable in your presence for whatever reason.
/r/seduction21/05/20 03:09 PM
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It’s a double bind bc if so called “inner game” is developed, no outer tiddly-winks are necessary. Get there and you’ll understand how fake it feels. You’ll also have women loving being in your presence bc you’d be surprised at how few males are genuine, firstly toward themselves
/r/seduction21/05/20 03:00 PM
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Sure this is fine however with all “game” it has sustainability issues. These are external, learned tactics and at some point you will have to either get rid of the girl or if you guys click you’ll have to take off the mask and reveal your undeveloped self. Why do I say “undeveloped self”? Bc a man who knows himself and stands on his own ground has no need for game of any kind for he is game. And that game is unique to his existence and can’t be taught to any other man (not that a man would want…
/r/seduction21/05/20 02:19 PM
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