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If lying works, then body count clearly doesn’t fucking matter because you can’t even tell the difference lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:01 PM
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It’s sad because there are real political issues that genuinely need to be solved, but you have all of these helpless crybabies that hyperbolize everything, which ironically is one of the biggest hindrances in actually creating support for the real issues It’s blue haired whiners like these people that are their own worst enemy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:20 PM
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I don’t support socialism and I am free from poverty, eviction, and starvation lol No, I wasn’t born rich or well connected. No, I’m not a millionaire. The level of exaggeration by the young kids these days is so cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:52 PM
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That’s one opinion lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:00 AM
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Why is everything on this sub written as a clickbait list article?
/r/seduction30/01/26 03:10 PM
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Why does it feel like every post on this forum these days is just a clickbait article?
/r/seduction17/01/26 11:29 PM
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If you’re wanting a relationship, even that don’t mean shit to be honest.
/r/seduction15/12/25 06:15 PM
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As a man, it can feel the same way coming from women. There are two possibilities to consider 1 - you’re just being too needy. If you are too needy, it will start to feel like he’s being crowded 2 - you’re doing nothing wrong, and he’s just emotionally immature with attachment issues Honestly, 2 is insanely common. I am not a needy person. I’m a good looking, fit dude with cool hobbies and good friends. I’m social and funny and charismatic. If somebody needs me to pretend to be less interested t…
/r/seduction14/11/25 01:30 PM
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Gold diggers are far less common than the manosphere will make you believe. It goes against evolved human nature to not desire authentic connection. Women want security. That is an evolved trait. That means physically, they want to feel like they’re safe in your presence. Emotionally, they want to feel seen and understood. And economically, they need to know that they won’t be struggling to eat or that there won’t be uncertainty around whether or not they’ll be evicted. But beyond economic stabi…
/r/seduction12/11/25 02:38 PM
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OP, I feel for you. I do. I’ve been on both sides of the coin. I’ve been the shy, awkward dude who couldn’t get laid. I’ve also been able to transform into somebody who has an abundance of sexual experience. There’s a paradox here. The very fact that you feel like you need sex as a form of validation and status is one of the main reasons why it’s so difficult to get laid. You view sex not as a beautiful, pleasurable, and connective experience with another person, but as a way to make you feel be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:01 PM
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People aren’t sexually attracted to niceness. They aren’t platonically attracted to niceness. Sometimes, niceness can feel like there’s an underlying expectation of reciprocation. My advice is to just think about your intent behind being nice. If there’s any part of you, even deep down, that’s thinking “I am doing this because I want to be recognized or appreciated by this person” you probably shouldn’t do the nice thing. If its coming from a place of “I am doing a kind thing because this person…
/r/seduction10/11/25 06:05 PM
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I mean you can fight over semantics, or you can understand the underlying meaning behind things. If you want to “win an argument on the internet” by fighting over definition, be my guest. If you’d like to grow and actually understand how to be a good person without begging rejected for being a “nice guy”, forget about definitions and just listen to understand.
/r/seduction10/11/25 04:24 PM
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This is an exaggeration of the situation. What happens in reality is a guy does nice things for people in the hopes that he’s winning their approval. The subconscious mindset is “I don’t really have anything of value to offer this friendship in terms of conversational skills, sense of humor, insightfulness, etc, so I’ll just do chores for this person in hopes that they’ll like me anyway.” It’s really no different than kissing your boss’s ass in hopes of winning favor.
/r/seduction10/11/25 02:44 PM
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No. Nice guys are dudes who do nice things only because they want something from somebody. You are acting as some kind of servant just hoping that master will give you some scraps. Kindness coming from a place of power is one of the sexiest things a man can do. The intention behind the action is everything.
/r/seduction10/11/25 02:25 PM
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Bro there is always somebody looking to find a reason why something is too hard I mean this respectfully- stop finding reasons to not do something
/r/seduction07/11/25 12:13 AM
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The number one cause of failure in dating, fitness, and financial success is lack of personal responsibility. Period. This is such a “blame everything else for my problems” post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:37 PM
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Everybody really is overthinking this. I don’t think it’s really going to do anything bad or good. If you find that rubbing one off before a date helps you be less thirsty, go for it. But using a picture of her specifically isn’t going to really do much probably
/r/seduction25/10/25 02:47 PM
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Dawg, you need therapy
/r/seduction24/10/25 12:11 PM
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Dude if you can make yourself above average and also get really good at flirting and building sexual tension, you can get laid. Easily Edit: I’m 5 foot 11. I have no problem in my dating life, and probably am not doing as well as Jack is in your story
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:08 PM
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I think it depends. This is a very old school game mindset. The reality is that it’s not necessarily true.
/r/seduction21/10/25 10:05 PM
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No, it’s based on your intent. If you’re being “nice” because you want something from them (ie: sex, approval, validation, admiration), you’re not actually being nice. You’re being manipulative. A good, kind man has a strength to him. He does things that are nice because he wants to. Because his reality is that he will make the world a better place and will output good. He doesn’t expect anything in return and doesn’t care if he’s thanked or appreciated for his good deeds
/r/seduction14/10/25 01:02 PM
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It’s wrong of her to ghost, but I do want to say - many men think a date goes well, but from the woman’s perspective, he only talked about himself and never asked her questions about her.
/r/seduction11/10/25 12:33 AM
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That’s such a shitty and narrow-minded thing to say. The idea that people can’t change is so toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:38 PM
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My best advice is to set strong boundaries for yourself here
/r/seduction02/10/25 12:57 PM
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Wait wait wait Nothing you wrote prevents a person from learning how to code or getting certified to be a welder
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:56 PM
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The desire to be holier-than-thou behind the anonymity of the internet is so real lol
/r/seduction02/10/25 12:54 PM
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It actually is that simple. Nobody wants to be poor, but very few are willing to invest in themselves. Outside of people with developmental and learning disorders, anybody is capable of the things I mentioned above.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:25 PM
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Did any of them learn coding? Learn how to get good at sales? Take a welding cert course? Learn engineering? Learn accounting? Learn investing? I mean anybody is capable of at least two of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:00 PM
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Care to argue against it?
/r/seduction29/09/25 05:56 PM
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Not all men can, but any man can. Since not all men will, you can It’s really not that hard to just do the shit you need to do in life to earn a decent income
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:54 PM
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When men were last “able to be providers” the system was still capitalism. There are definitely issues with our economy and the shrinking of the middle class, but men can also totally still be providers, even now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:56 PM
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You totally don’t have to do that shit. It’s good to be busy and not needy. You’re only ever gonna attract shit personalities of you live your life like that
/r/seduction28/09/25 08:54 PM
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My advice is to be more vulnerable. It sounds lame and “beta”, but just tell some women at social events that you’re looking to make friends with women because you have lots of male friends already and want the male-female friend dynamic too. That will tell them that you’re safe and help you get in. But also, once you say that, don’t renegotiate it. Just friend zone yourself with some women and really focus on the friendship. Not what you can get out of it, but building a genuine connection.
/r/seduction28/09/25 01:56 PM
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I understand. My best recommendation is to just try to be empathetic of that instead of angry or bitter. I know it’s not easy. It absolutely sucks as a man to feel like you’re automatically labeled as a monster even if you have good intentions. But they’re not doing that because they want us to suffer - they’re doing it because they’ve almost all had horrific experiences with really really shitty men who have traumatized them. Having that empathy will make it easier to prove that you are a good …
/r/seduction28/09/25 01:55 PM
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My friend, your problem is that you only view people for what they can do for you. Your inability to connect with other humans is your actual downfall. You see women and think “what can they give to me? What can I take from them?” Never “what can I offer?” Or “will this be a meaningful connection?” Let go of the need to gain something from somebody. If your only reason to ever interact with another human is to get something out of them, you will die a lonely, hollow shell of a person.
/r/seduction26/09/25 04:14 PM
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What kind of sample size are we talking here?
/r/seduction26/09/25 04:10 PM
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Honestly, try a dating app and just put in there that you’re strictly wanting friends
/r/seduction26/09/25 02:56 PM
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It’s more just integrating with being a normal person who is good at social skills, building a social circle, and in touch with his healthy masculine. The days of wearing goggles and a space suit and approaching a group of girls saying “I have a question, my friends gf is jealous…” are just kinda dead
/r/seduction25/09/25 02:11 PM
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Have you tried telling him you want to hear him make noise? Communication is OP
/r/seduction04/09/25 12:30 PM
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It completely depends on why you’re crying. If you find out your mom died? 1 - it would be a bad thing if you didn’t cry in front of her. If you cry because you know her deeply and you’re unpacking some deep-rooted trauma? Probably also 1. It’s connective. Crying after sex because you’re trauma dumping on her? 10. Crying because you can’t handle the stress of your day? 10. Crying because she says something that hurts your feelings? Probably an 8-10 unless it truly hit something deep (ie: she did…
/r/seduction04/09/25 02:46 AM
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This is a great example of over-intellectualizing things. This is exactly why you struggle with dating. You think too fkn much bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:03 PM
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It’s absolutely harder for some than others, but anybody can get ripped, make a lot of money, and develop good social skills/a good social network. If you have all three of those things, you’re going to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:58 PM
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It’s not that she doesn’t want to pay for it. It’s that her biology tells her that a man who WANTS to pay for it is attractive to her because he is a man who provides. Lizard brain say “he man bring me food. I live. My babies live. He man good. Me make babies with he man” Don’t over-logic attraction. It’s primal at its core. You can resent it, or you can accept and embrace it. The former will result in a much drier dick than the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:57 PM
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You can also get better at dating. It’s not easy, but anybody (with exceptions for people with severe disabilities or health conditions) can find some degree of success in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:58 PM
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A lot of this is just not true. Nobody demonizes men for being sole providers. Nobody sees OF as empowering except OF girls. This is all a warped view of reality that one gets from spending too much time on TikTok and not enough time with actual people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:15 PM
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Bro just respect the boundary or move on. It’s not BS. Some people just need more time to feel comfortable being intimate. If you like her, you can choose to keep getting to know her, or you can move on and find somebody who is more open to a faster pace. Don’t manipulate people into doing something they don’t want to do. The purpose of this stuff isn’t to be a shitty person.
/r/seduction27/06/25 03:16 PM
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You’re moving the goal posts drastically here. If somebody is wearing a Metallica t shirt, I can tell that the likely are Metallica fans. I can’t be in line with somebody based off of a snapshot glance
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:08 AM
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You can be a strong man who leads and commands respect but also be kind and good-hearted They’re not mutually exclusive
/r/seduction22/06/25 10:12 PM
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Holding off all the way until marriage is going to severely limit your options
/r/seduction29/05/25 04:58 PM
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Tl;dr - be authentic
/r/seduction27/05/25 04:23 PM
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Women: I want a guy who has female friends Also women: I’m not comfortable with my boyfriend’s relationship with his female friends
/r/seduction26/05/25 08:59 PM
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I suck at dating apps. I’m horrible at taking pics and writing flirty messages. I do well meeting people irl. I’m decently charismatic and open to meeting new people. Instead of wallowing in pity about the woes of dating apps, dudes need to just find other ways to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:18 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:23 PM
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You can be kind and still masculine. The problem with most of the “nice guys” is that they basically are “one of the girls”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:06 PM
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I disagree. If you are in a place where you simply can’t form a social circle, you need to move.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:20 PM
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I feel bad for dudes that truly believe dat in f apps are the only way to meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:57 PM
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I’m blue-leaning purple. I don’t believe in basic human decency because I hope it gets me laid. I believe it it because it’s the right thing to believe in
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:27 AM
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Everybody thinks I’m some travel expert lol. Think beach area during spring break. Or a cruise
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:16 PM
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I mean I’m not a travel expert, but any all inclusive in a warm/tropical/vacationy place is solid. Try an all inclusive in Cancun. Even if you don’t get laid, you’re definitely still gonna have a great time
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:16 PM
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I mean honestly any all-inclusive in Cancun is probably great. A cruise can also be solid
/r/seduction06/05/25 08:39 PM
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Yeah I just was in Cancun at an all-inclusive. Met a smoking hot tatted up blonde one evening while drinking at a beach bar. We were in my room within an hour of meeting.
/r/seduction06/05/25 04:39 PM
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Add vacations to this list -15/10 If you’re staying in an all-inclusive or some type of resort where the purpose is vacationing, it’s honestly the easiest opportunity in the world to get laid if you have decent game. Even women who aren’t normally looking for hookups are open to hookups while on vacation.
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:10 PM
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The “good at flirting” part is most likely what you’re missing here then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:11 PM
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My ex made me laugh a lot, listened to me if I needed it, made me feel like I was in my healthy masculine, liked to do fun things with me, and was great in bed. If you think women “offer nothing” you have a connection issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:44 PM
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I’d say it’s a men’s issue, but it’s also not women’s responsibility to fix it. Empathy isn’t owed, either, but could help make the climate better for everybody (this goes both ways - men need to be more empathetic towards what women go through as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:33 PM
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Propose a threesome Jokes aside, just laugh it off. And maybe veer a little bit away from copy/paste texting
/r/seduction02/05/25 02:43 AM
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You can absolutely be a kind and emotionally intelligent dude and also be a badass who doesn’t tolerate bullshit from people and exudes masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:11 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with feeling this way. You didn’t choose to feel this way, it’s just how you feel. People can get butthurt, but as long as outside of the bedroom you are kind to bisexual men and don’t discriminate against them in day-to-day life, you’re allowed to have your preferences. I’m a straight guy. I can only offer the perspective I get from observation, which is that women who typically prefer masculine men are turned off by the idea of a man having sex with another man because ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:37 PM
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You should try to look good for the situation. If you’re strolling around daygaming, some nice shorts or jeans and a well-fitted t shirt is fine. If you’re going out to a bar, you should be well presented. Dress to your identity. And more importantly, dress in clothes that fit. Find shirts that are a little bit tighter in the chest and looser in the belly. The seams on the shoulders should rest around the outside of your shoulders. Don’t wear baggy jeans/shorts. Have shorts be medium length, not…
/r/seduction28/04/25 02:42 PM
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Whichever one is closer to the date venue Otherwise it probably doesn’t matter and is up to you and your preference. She may be more comfortable with a first lay at her place.
/r/seduction27/04/25 01:53 AM
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Do you have a preference for the type of sesame seed on a bun on a burger? Maybe there’s an ideal sesame seed, but that doesn’t make or break the burger. Think of it like that. If you ask, I’m sure there are preferences. But since women ultimately care more about clitoral stimulation, it’s essentially a non issue. Most women will take a 4 inch dude who is dominant, attentive, and good at eating pussy over an 8 incher who lacks in all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:34 AM
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If you master kino escalation, it’s easy
/r/seduction21/04/25 10:37 PM
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Nah dude you’re just being a dick
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:36 PM
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Wait I’m confused. Do you want a tradwife or do you not want a tradwife? Also if you think chicks who are cooking, cleaning, and taking care of kids aren’t doing shit you’re delusional. I would MUCH prefer to work towards my career than caretaker for the kids. That shit is much harder
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:34 PM
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Dude your post was an emotional reaction to his post lol. Like he just stated a very harmless opinion, you clearly took it personally and erupted. The irony is delicious
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:45 PM
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I mean again, do a search for #tradwife They cook, they clean, they take care of the kids…it’s no different than it was 60 years ago for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:47 PM
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No. Search #tradwife and look at how many hits you get on any social media platform. There are tons of women who want a traditional relationship…and even those who don’t still naturally feel most comfortable with a masculine man who makes them feel feminine. I feel like 99% of TRP is just dudes blaming their lack of success with women on the women. Tradwife women still want a masculine man. If you were masculine and successful and had great social skills and what you wanted was a tradwife, you’d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:01 PM
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I would never ever pay an escort. I want to feel desired, not masturbate with somebody’s vagina Also, there are PLENTY of women who still want a traditional marriage. Why not just pursue those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:20 PM
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I understand what you’re saying. But there is more to an interaction with a woman than getting laid. If you’re fixated on the end goal instead of enjoying the present, you’re going to fail 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:02 PM
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I still disagree. If you can’t just enjoy interactions with women without the underlying expectation that it MUST lead to sex, you are too thirsty and not in an abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:24 PM
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Everybody starts where they start. Better to offer helpful advice and build somebody up than to tear them down ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:15 PM
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I disagree. As I mentioned in another post - if you have an expectation or some kind of mission, you won’t be present. Lack of presence is unattractive, especially in that type of setting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:14 PM
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If you’re thinking like that, you’re starting from a losing mindset. Let go of the need for expectation. Let go of the need for her approval. Just focus on having an enjoyable interaction. Not every interaction that is enjoyable needs to lead to sex. If you can share a laugh with her, awesome. If there are some vibes but no sexual chemistry, cool. When you put pressure on yourself to achieve an outcome, you’re not only less likely to achieve said outcome, but you’re also going to always feel lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:13 PM
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There’s no need to be insulting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:10 PM
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If your cold approaches involve sexually propositioning strange women, that is the crux of the problem lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:40 PM
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I want to comment on this - OP is right, but this can also be overdone. I’ve taken it too far in the other direction. When shit tested, you need to be able to show that you’re not fazed. Humor is a great way to deflect that. It also is important to command respect and show that you’re a person who is to be taken seriously. Being playful at the right times to make interactions fun is super important. Being able to hold frame in a serious way and handle your shit is equally important.
/r/seduction08/04/25 01:16 PM
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You don’t set some specific intention for it. Just build a social circle, work on your shit (fitness/career), and hit girls up irl and on apps. Over time it happens - chicks will come into and out of your life. I’m also involved in some tantric social circles that are extremely sex positive and full of women that are fine with casual sex and their partners sleeping around as long as there is a real connection
/r/seduction08/04/25 01:10 PM
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When I had a 4 girl rotation, I got rejected quite a bit building up to it. But it was never some brutal humiliating no. I could usually read the room and they’d never have to verbally reject me. Sometimes they would, and in some cases, I’m still friends with those that rejected me
/r/seduction08/04/25 12:57 PM
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Work in the sense that you can sometimes bang a very specific type of girl? Yeah, for sure. You’ll be able to pull dumb party girls with no self esteem who love drugs and are status obsessed. It’s not a satisfying way to live. You’ll also be viewed as a huge douche by most other people, and if you’re older than 24, you’ll be living a very immature lifestyle. It can be okay as training wheels to help you build some real confidence, but it’s not the way to do it long term.
/r/seduction07/04/25 05:40 PM
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If you are in good shape, have a good job, have a solid social circle, dress well, and are good at flirting, you can find a gf. And none of those things are something you’re innately born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:35 AM
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For sure. I think it’s somewhat natural for women to want a man to “take care of her” in the sense of being a provider. I also think in cases like the Taylor Swift example, she would probably be doing what she’s doing even if it didn’t pay because music is her passion. A lot of working women pursue their careers because their work gives them meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:36 PM
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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting a specific type of relationship as long as you’re honest about it and are willing to still put in the work to contribute to the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:22 PM
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Yeah I get that. Do you think there’s a point where both of you make so much that it wouldn’t matter anymore? Ie: Taylor Swift makes way more than Travis Kelce, but they both make so much that there’s no real power dynamic shift due to income
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:54 PM
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I have no problem dating educated women, but I do sometimes think that educated women who are more successful than me will see me as less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:03 PM
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Ah so you’re specifically wondering if promiscuity is reversible in women? That’s extremely complicated. If you’re worried that somebody with a promiscuous past is going to cheat or not be satisfied with you…I think that often depends on WHY they were promiscuous and what steps they’ve taken since then. For example - were they into drugs? Are they still into them? Do they have BPD? Are they in therapy? Are they an otherwise normally adjusted person who just had to go through a phase to realize i…
/r/seduction02/04/25 08:48 PM
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Ah. I mean the answer is sometimes. Everybody is different.
/r/seduction02/04/25 07:51 PM
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What types of values are you referring to?
/r/seduction02/04/25 07:34 PM
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Weak people, both man and woman, will compromise on their core values to placate somebody. Strong people only change their core values when they’ve gained a new perspective
/r/seduction02/04/25 06:53 PM
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Of course. I’m generalizing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:31 PM
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Men: I want NSA sex Also men: women who have NSA sex are whores
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:52 PM
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I mean why not just find hot girls that are similar to you? One of the big misconceptions of all this is that you have to be able to get any girl. Screen girls for their personalities, too. Find a chick that is hot and also - to you - the coolest fucking chick on the planet. Brother, even if you’re not looking for a relationship…trust me - sex is 10000000x better when this is the scenario
/r/seduction29/03/25 02:07 PM
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This. It’s important to note though - being kind is good, but you still need to be strong and present. True kindness comes from a place of strength. You hold boundaries, you say no when it’s right to you, you command respect. But you also care about those around you and use your strength to lead those you care about in a way that creates a good experience for them
/r/seduction29/03/25 12:53 PM
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I think the point is to want to see change, not to want to be recognized for helping to facilitate that change. It’s like recording yourself while giving money to a homeless guy so that you can post it on TikTok. Let go of the need to be seen as helpful and just be helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:30 PM
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Mindset: I’m interested in you but I’ll be fine if you’re not feeling it back, and I’ll be nice if that’s the case
/r/seduction28/03/25 05:24 PM
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I’m sorry that you’re sad my dude. I hope you get the help you need
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:44 PM
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So what you’re saying is you’re not an ugly guy but a LAZY ugly guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:12 PM
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Get rich Become really funny Get jacked and have a strong masculine presence Become the leader in a community Get really skilled in something that women like to do, like dancing Plenty of things you can do. Wallowing in self defeat is much more unattractive than being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:14 PM
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What ends up happening is it replaces real social connection for a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:06 PM
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Bold statement lol There are probably MANY factors contributing to loneliness, and social media surely is one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:01 PM
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Everybody’s allowed to have preferences
/r/seduction23/03/25 08:22 PM
1

Personally, I wouldn’t ever care if a girl I was dating had sex with other girls. Girls provide something I can’t (sexual experience with somebody feminine, women parts, etc), and I provide something women can’t (the opposite of that). I don’t feel like it’s competition because it’s such a different experience. Tbh, if a gf of mine wanted to have a gf as well I also wouldn’t care that much as long as I felt like she was still down for me as well. MFF threesomes would also be kinda dope too lol
/r/seduction23/03/25 04:12 PM
14

I think there’s a difference between imagining it and doing it. Clearly, false assault accusations are under-punished, and they absolutely do happen…but come on dude. We all know that actual assaults happen much more often than intentionally fake assault accusations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:55 PM
5

lol wait until you find a codependent chick. You’ll regret being clingy
/r/seduction22/03/25 05:05 PM
1

Bro you want to be victim. The moment you admit this to yourself, the moment you can start changing your life. Honestly, if you wanna say “I don’t pay for first dates because I wanna get to know somebody first” and you own that shit, it probably won’t matter. That’s not where you’re coming from. You’re coming from a place of “waaaaaah women bad”, and that’s always going to be the real reason dates aren’t going well for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:02 PM
0

I don’t care. It’s a non issue. I go on dates. I spend an extra $20-$30. I don’t think about the money. Some dates are good. Some aren’t. I dont even think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:56 AM
1

I’ve dated women who make much more than me. I still pay because it’s tradition and shows confidence/willingness to lead. Also, it doesn’t matter if women are broke or not. Yes, it’s a double standard, but women and men have different standards for attractiveness. You can whine about how unfair it is (and maybe it is idk) or you can suck it up and play the game. It’s 100% your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:44 PM
1

If you’re so broke that paying for a date or two a week makes such a big dent that you need to think this hard about it, either you’re too young for this shit to matter or you’re too broke to be thinking about dating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:41 PM
2

I’m 35 and I wouldn’t likely date anybody 25 or younger because we just wouldn’t have enough in common. Like yeah, I want somebody who is attractive, but I also need to have a real connection. I don’t think I could be with somebody that just can’t relate to the things I’m experiencing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:21 AM
2

I am exactly what I described. I work out (I’m not like shredded but athletic), I’m under 6 feet, I have a corporate job that affords me a solid apartment. None of this makes me exceptional The real issue is that dudes with dad bods who sit at home and play video games all day without any real aspirations think they’re average, when in reality, they’re only “average” because more and more men in our society would prefer to complain online and make excuses than sack up and do what it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:01 PM
2

But what you are suggesting is that average can’t get women. I’m not the apex of man, but I really haven’t had issues since college getting laid, and most of the women I’ve dated or slept with have been very attractive…definitely hotter than me. That’s why when dudes complain about this whole hypergamy thing, I just don’t believe it because it’s not my experience. Dudes that think they’re average are just way below average or have garbage social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:54 PM
6

I think it’s actually men overvaluing themselves lol I don’t think I’m a top % man. But I have a corporate job that pays well, stay in good shape, and have developed good social skills through years of working on it. I don’t think that makes me top %. It’s basically just what men should be doing anyway because it gives purpose. I don’t have trouble getting laid. Dating has its ups and downs, don’t get me wrong, but I’m happy with my sex/dating life if I zoom out and look at it in its totality. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:04 PM
3

You can be mad about it all you want, but if a fat chick with a beard approached you, how would you react? Just focus on fitness, confidence, and fashion/grooming and your % success cold approaching will go up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:15 PM
65

What’s the difference between a dollar and a pound? I didn’t dollar OP’s mom last night
/r/seduction10/03/25 08:09 PM
0

Why is that luck? Anybody can move there. It’s not like they’re holding lotteries to live there lol
/r/seduction10/03/25 06:23 PM
2

I don’t think it takes a lifetime to become more masculine. I do agree that it takes time, but I think a solid self improvement journey and some good mentors can get most men starting from average to a decent spot in 1-3 years. I’m saying this as somebody who has taken a hard deep dive into healthy masculinity. But honestly, either way, just communicate it. If it takes time it takes time. But it takes much longer if your man doesn’t know. The greatest thing you can do as his feminine counterpart…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:40 PM
1

Men want to feel sexually desired. Im saying this as a moderately blue-ish purple pill man. If I felt like somebody was just having sex with me because she felt obligated to, I wouldn’t enjoy the sex. Plain and simple. Feeling sexually desirable is a need for me as a man. It’s just as much emotional as it is primal and physical. If you’re faking orgasms instead of communicating your needs, you’re hurting your man emotionally. If you need your man to be more masculine, fucking tell him. If he has…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 12:00 AM
16

There’s not much too say. She set the boundary. You can either get to know her better and pursue a relationship, or you can move on and decide you don’t want to wait that long. Both are acceptable decision
/r/seduction27/02/25 05:00 AM
1

Invite him for a movie and escalate. You may make him nervous which may make it tough to stay hard if you plan sex haha.
/r/seduction21/02/25 10:37 PM
3

There’s a good chance that he is nervous because he is scared of screwing things up. As a guy who can sometimes be a little bit of an over thinker, you have no idea how much I’d appreciate a woman just saying “hey, I genuinely like you. It feels like you’re a little nervous around me sometimes, but I want you to know that I’m digging this, and it’s okay to relax and be yourself. I like yourself” Obviously there’s a right time for that, but being vulnerable and authentic about how you’re feeling …
/r/seduction21/02/25 01:21 PM
1

Move to another city?
/r/seduction20/02/25 06:30 PM
2

My advice would be to go out and make some female friends first. Seriously, dudes in this community really undervalue a good friendship with attractive women. It will make you more comfortable around them, and if you prove that you’re safe, you’ll get the opportunity to meet lots more by being friends with them. At the place I used to live, I became friends with these three women - two of them were hot as fuck. Never even tried to bang them. I got laid so much because of that friendship, and I s…
/r/seduction17/02/25 03:28 PM
2

Yes. The key is to be powerful but also be kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:12 PM
0

No. Choking is like the ultimate form of control and submission. I choke my gf. I also blight her a thoughtful gift for Valentine’s Day. Sex is sex. Outside of sex is outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:03 PM
3

No. YOU can. He can’t. And neither can I. Sex is extremely important to me. I’m not going to be in a relationship without it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:22 AM
2

What’s a Disney adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:51 PM
6

It means that women find men more attractive if other women find him attractive too
/r/seduction11/02/25 09:55 PM
5

Just by being willing to approach, you’re making yourself stand out. Women appreciate guys with balls
/r/seduction11/02/25 03:35 PM
-10

100k a year isn’t even that much. Anybody who graduates college and actually puts effort into their career can hit that by 27
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:49 PM
24

Men, let this be a lesson in the importance of preselection
/r/seduction11/02/25 12:37 PM
2

Yeah I mean if you’re 35 and have no ambition to better yourself, you aren’t getting girls. Tell your friend to get some ambition
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:43 PM
47

No experience here, but even if you don’t pull, it’ll probably be an entertaining event
/r/seduction10/02/25 02:30 PM
67

Companionship. Having a companion that balances your masculine with their feminine. It feels good on a primal level
/r/seduction10/02/25 01:52 PM
2

Honestly, just make some joke about not being married yet and than continue as if she never said it
/r/seduction08/02/25 08:24 PM
1

You can do that and it’ll make you do better than if you have no confidence at all…but it’s not actually the best solution and will make it really hard to have a great relationship
/r/seduction07/02/25 02:05 PM
2

I agree with the premise that we should be more proactive with our dating life…but dude didn’t need to let himself go appearance-wise
/r/seduction07/02/25 02:00 PM
23

I mean honestly, let that one go. I don’t even think you did the wrong thing as long as you didn’t insult her or be a dick about it. You spoke your truth. Now let it go. Maybe down the road she’ll be in a better headspace and reach out. Maybe not, but she’ll probably still treat people better
/r/seduction06/02/25 02:41 AM
13

The fact that you’re fighting us on this is exactly why it’ll never work. You still are too needy
/r/seduction05/02/25 06:02 AM
2

No, it’s really not. You can get a cert for welding in 6 months. Pay is decent
/r/seduction02/02/25 04:46 PM
2

First and foremost, you have to take responsibility for your own failure to develop any marketable skills. I know this is harsh, but it’s just a fact. You are where you are because of choices you made. I recommend going one of two routes - either learn a trade (welding, plumbing, etc) or learn a marketing-adjacent skill like data analytics. It’s not going to be easy and will take time, but it will absolutely be necessary.
/r/seduction02/02/25 03:04 PM
4

Lose weight and get a career bro
/r/seduction01/02/25 09:56 PM
2

Find a girl who likes other girls. Have threesomes This is the way
/r/seduction31/01/25 09:43 PM
1

I think if you truly embody the concepts there, the “how to” just is natural.
/r/seduction31/01/25 02:14 AM
2

It’s more satisfying to do it with skill, and high skill gives you more potential than just good looks.
/r/seduction30/01/25 03:16 PM
3

Then do something else that’s not a bar. You can’t depend on us to think of all your dates for you. Go to a museum or a concert or something. Find something fun to do that you would enjoy doing even without her and ask her if she would like to join you
/r/seduction29/01/25 06:05 PM
-1

I mean why are you trying to hit on ghetto chicks anyway? lol
/r/seduction29/01/25 02:00 PM
25

Don’t overthink it. You’ve already had sex. Just see if she wants to grab a drink, pick a bar near her place, kick her ass in some pool or darts or something, and then see if she wants to watch some parks n rec or whatever show you want on in the background while you rail her
/r/seduction29/01/25 10:45 AM
54

Shave head. Gain muscle. Maybe throw on some tats. Rock it and don’t give a fuck
/r/seduction26/01/25 09:04 PM
1

I personally hate getting that, but what can ya do. Some women just want to get a vibe through texting before meeting in person. My in person game is 10000x better than my text game, so I usually just don’t do well with those women
/r/seduction25/01/25 09:37 PM
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I’m a man who works a corporate sales job. I actually think women’s brains are better wired for a lot of the corporate world. You’re better organized, better at attention to detail, you make everything look nicer. Generalizing, everybody is different, but I think if there was a case study, I hypothesize that it would find this to be generally true. I also think women are attracted to men that are comfortable leading.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:44 PM
117

You’re right, but man is that mindset sometimes difficult to escape.
/r/seduction19/01/25 12:44 PM
3

The abusers still suck and nobody thinks otherwise. But there are usually VERY obvious signs that a guy has a high likelihood of being an abuser. Sometimes, it feels like the traits women find attractive are often traits abusers carry. Like how chicks would always date the bullies when I was in middle/high school
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:17 AM
0

You can have this, but you should still be improving your social skills
/r/seduction13/01/25 03:09 PM
1

I don’t think that’s as true as you think it is bro. Dudes who have the option to bang hot chicks don’t bang whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:32 PM
1

Yeah I mean I wouldn’t get too caught up on undesirable women getting undesirable men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:29 PM
1

Idk if I agree with that lol. Maybe with extremely low value men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:15 PM
1

People who get into game really sometimes forget that sometimes people just connect really well. Just because she picked somebody else doesn’t mean he’s better and you’re worse. Sometimes he’s just the right fit. I do jiu jitsu. I’m passionate about it. I’m a black belt, been training for 18 years, sometimes train 3x a day. If I met a 6-7 who shares that same passion, I’d choose her any day over a 9-10 who doesn’t.
/r/seduction09/01/25 04:04 PM
3

I pay, but I don’t usually do dinner. Coffee or a drink.
/r/seduction08/01/25 07:37 PM
8

I mean being tall and a self made millionaire absolutely makes things easier, but you don’t have to achieve that level of success to get laid. I’m 5 foot 10 and have a cozy job in tech sales. Not a millionaire. I do fine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:08 PM
21

I mean yeah. I think women want to be desired. They just also want to feel safe and feel like there’s value outside of just objectification
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:48 PM
2

If you’re the fun popular guy at a club, you’ll get club girls. Even the hot ones
/r/seduction06/01/25 06:09 PM
3

To be fair, Tyler has come a loooong way as well.
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:05 PM
2

You can still be a gross slob and get girls. It’s true. But being attractive absolutely makes it easier, and most men can be moderately attractive. If you’re a gross slob, you’re mostly limited to being a club rat picking up young drink chicks. This becomes extremely unfulfilling after a while, is bad for your health, often your career, and creates a whole new level of resentment towards women because you’re only dealing with the worst of them. The self improvement take allows you to get higher …
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:04 PM
21

The mall is almost always gonna be teenagers everywhere.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:15 AM
3

Stop being smooth. Be honest. She can choose to accept or reject it.
/r/seduction31/12/24 07:58 PM
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“Most men in LTR barely have sex with their woman once the honeymoon phase wears off” Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:20 AM
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Okay. Based on the fact that he went all the way to trial for raping a 13 year old girl, I think the hysteria isn’t ridiculous. I feel like that was implied as the reason I posted the link, but I suppose not everybody will draw that conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:38 PM
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I mean it’s definitely not for me. I’d rather be alone than dating an imitation human. But if it makes other people happy, more power to them I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:33 PM
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Did you look at the link? It’s an official affidavit of a court case in which Trump was accused of raping a 13 year old girl with Jeffrey Epstein
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:44 PM
3

I mean sure. But if a man approaches me in the woods, the odds that he has a gun, that he intends to kill me with it, and that he’s not stupid enough to come into point plank range where I have some % chance of disarming him are pretty low compared to how likely a bear kills me if he approaches me. Like I get it - men can be incredibly dangerous, and in the woods, if a dude is alone and approaching you he’s either in desperate need of help or has nefarious intentions. But a bear is probably the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:42 PM
10

I am a black belt in BJJ and have 18 years of MMA experience I wouldn’t even consider fucking with a bear. That shit is just downright stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:25 PM
1

They’re not forcing you into a bad decision. If their values don’t align with yours, you shouldn’t be together anyway. As a man, you need to be willing to turn down women, even attractive ones, in order to stand by your values. That mindset will actually get you way more pussy in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:38 PM
1

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:17 PM
0

As a guy who loves working out and training BJJ, if I had an attractive wife that was making good money, fuck it, I’d clean the shit out of a house and stay in shape for her 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:38 AM
12

Hot take - just do what you want. Some people will be cool with it, some won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:22 PM
4

Perfectly 50/50? Maybe. Maybe not. Hard to divide it perfectly. But both partners should be doing their best to take care of household chores, and while everybody’s arrangement might look different, if one person feels like they’re putting forth far more effort, they’re going to very rightfully feel like they got an unfair deal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:17 PM
1

The wood context is a fair point. Most likely anybody approaching you in the woods is at best crazy and at worst a serial killer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:15 PM
1

That’s fine, but history has shown that people with much more radical ideology than anything we’re seeing in the United States can be persuaded to adopt more reasonable ideology. Post WW2 Japan and Germany are fantastic examples of this. In fact, Germany in particular is a great example because we did things your way after WW1 - punishing and isolating them for their radicalism, which literally caused the birth of the Third Reich and resulted in the genocide of 6 million Jews and sparked a war t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:06 PM
3

Everybody talking about this as if it’s a widespread thing is only more likely going to make it a widespread thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:54 PM
1

I mean, it probably depends on the species of bear and the context. If you’re in the woods and a grizzly bear approaches YOU (I’m taking the question at face value and not counting times where bears wander around a campsite looking for food and then leaves while the people sit still or hide in their tents). I feel like in those cases, your odds of survival are pretty damn low. And yes, more murders are committed by men, but also, also you’re encountering far more men than bears. If you walk down…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:08 AM
3

“Plain and simple would be confessing that you want women to make themselves friendly and available to you whether they want to or not” How do you possibly come to that conclusion? That’s not at all what I want, and nothing I said implied that. This is about holding the same standards that I hold for race, sexual orientation, nationality, religion, and the gender opposite of mine - don’t generalize an entire population by the actions of some of them. I’m not demanding that women accept anybody’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:43 AM
-1

4B is not nearly a big enough movement to justify all the threads we’re seeing on it. It’s a fringe movement run by radicals who have been deeply hurt and need serious therapy. It’s never going to spread because even most radical people still have strong enough sex drives that theyll still seek out sex partners
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:15 PM
3

Can I just say that when you say “they never wanted to” that I think you’re making a very radical and overly-generalized statement? I’ve never wanted any of that. I don’t want anybody feeling embarrassed or uncomfortable or any negative feelings in any way whatsoever. I’m going to make the argument here that “not all men” is a perfectly reasonable stance if it’s not simultaneously dismissive of women’s experience. Generalizing all men is most likely why Trump is in office right now. You’re pushi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 11:11 PM
2

I think actually it’s not an analogy. I think there are a LOT of women who say they’d take the bear and mean it 100% literally. And let me be clear - I absolutely see it as a sign that men have failed on a systemic level to make women feel safe around them. But I also still think it’s a completely idiotic and illogical take at the same time. Both are true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:13 PM
1

I don’t know what the 4B movement is, but as a blue-leaning purple pill dude, can I just say that actually fearing the bear is so mathematically stupid it’s not even funny? I mean a dude MIGHT kill you. Maybe the odds are greater than 50%. Maybe greater than 75%. Idk. But if a bear approaches you, you are 100% dead. Maybe 99% on the off chance that playing dead works. And a bear is by far the most excruciatingly painful animal death and it’s not even close. It literally rips chunks of skin and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:25 PM
1

Something tells me he wouldn’t listen But to be honest, I think Trump’s victory is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Trump is obviously a horrible, horrible thing. He won because 20s and 30s white men feel completely disconnected and unseen by the democrats. While you’re over here saying “suck it up loser nobody feels bad for you and your problems” Trump is telling them “I see your pain” He’s full of shit and won’t do anything to fix it, but we currently live in a world where Donald T…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:53 PM
1

They should empathize with you. And I’m sorry your experience is that they haven’t. “Be nice to me and I’ll stop oppressing you” is a crazy interpretation. I’m not oppressing anybody, and I’ll always try to be nice to people regardless of how they act to me. On a SYSTEMIC level, empathy is almost always necessary to change the way people see things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:01 PM
2

I don’t think most men who gravitate towards Andrew Tate land there immediately. I think it’s a slow burn. Man feels hurt -> man expresses his hurt -> man feels like society tells him he has no right to feel hurt and that he needs to “suck it up” -> man starts to get the feeling that showing vulnerability makes him less attractive but is more confused than anything - > man gets hurt again -> man expresses his hurt -> man once again feels told by society, particularly women, that his feelings of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:38 PM
2

“I’m sorry that you hurt your feelings because you made up hurtful scenarios about strangers in your mind?” Imagine if I said this in response to women saying “my boss keeps hitting on me and is making me feel like I will only have success in this company if I entertain it” Obviously, two vastly different scenarios, but imagine me responding to that with “sorry your feelings are hurt because of a made ups scenario about a stranger” These are real scenarios that actually hurt men. “I’m sorry you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:31 PM
2

I’m not judging you or anybody else. I think that everybody is basically a moron as a young kid/college age kid who is figuring themselves out. I’m suggesting that empathizing with the fact that men have been hurt by women who are “figuring it out”. And understanding that a lot of men turn to toxic ideologies as a reaction to these experiences. To be clear - I’m not BLAMING women for men turning to these toxic ideologies - everybody is responsible for their own actions. But I do think that when …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:27 PM
3

I’m not saying you did, and I’m not mistreating you in any way. I’m not demanding any empathy. But if a man expresses his emotions and shares his experiences, and you instantly dismiss those feelings and experiences because he would like to be seen, heard, and understood, don’t expect that same guy to feel safe sharing his emotions in a relationship. When women say “we feel like we’re objectified in the work place, please respect us for our abilities and not our attractiveness” they are expectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:20 PM
2

Probably. I’m not dismissing the idea that women have shitty experiences too. But the difference is that when women have shitty experiences, people listen, empathize, and society pressures them to change their behavior. But when men express their shitty experiences, we hear “so just like when men fuck a bitchy Stacey” It’s dismissive. It’s always dismissive. You want men to express their emotions and be honest about how we feel…literally doing that RIGHT NOW, and your response is dismissive. Why…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:14 PM
4

I don’t expect women to be perfect, nor do I believe they are. I think you’re misinterpreting the point of my post. It’s not the “being turned down” that sucks. It’s society telling us that being a good person is the best way to ensure that you will be attractive, only to observe that it’s actually horrible men that attract all of the women, which in turn incentivizes men to be horrible people themselves. I don’t fault young women for being attracted to assholes. Just like young men, they’re fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:10 PM
1

I completely agree that way too many men are failing to empathize with the struggles that women go through as well. But I do think many do…I think VERY few women are willing to acknowledge or empathize with the challenges men face, and I believe the lack of empathy is a large part of why men gravitate towards toxic gurus like Andrew Tate - these guys at least acknowledge their pain
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:07 PM
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I don’t disagree with you. And despite the position I’m taking, I’ve done a lot of work in therapy to be in a place where I don’t resent women, don’t act like a shitty person, etc. But it still feels very dismissive, and I believe a large part of the driving force behind the red pill is women’s refusal to empathize with things like this. I empathize with women. I empathize with being scared of how dangerous men can be. With how horrible it can feel to be used. With feeing like you’re not valued …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:07 AM
19

Respectfully, I didn’t resent women because they didn’t want to sleep with me. I resented them because they slept with the horrible people that bullied me. It wasn’t “I’m rejecting you” that was the problem. It was “I’m rejecting you specifically for the bad guys that use me” You can’t just dismiss the fact that this is a real reality for men. How are we supposed to react to this? Continue to be nice? If women want men to express emotions, then don’t dismiss this experience that MANY of us have …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:52 PM
24

I’m mostly blue pill. But there is some truth to OP. I went through a loooong period of my life resenting women because of feeling exactly like OP did. Men have their own toxic bullshit we need to fix, and there is absolutely no denying that fact, but women tend to immediately dismiss men’s feelings here. It DOES hurt when we genuinely want a connection and girls fuck the guys that bully us. It DOES seem like women prefer to fuck douchebags. There’s a lot more to it than that, and I believe we’d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:40 PM
2

Dudes need to stop looking for instant fixes and start focusing on creating a lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:24 PM
9

I agree with OP though. You can have a sexual experience with somebody, not want to be in a relationship, but still think they’re a good person and wish them happiness. It doesn’t have to be one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:36 PM
1

I think it’s just attractive to most women when dudes have the balls to pursue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:31 PM
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That’s an interesting take, but I don’t agree with the idea that we liberalized them for the wrong reasons. I think we did the wrong things for the right reasons. Sexual harassment was a real issue. We’ve just over corrected to the point where men are scared to seduce women that want to be seduced. Consent is extremely important, but we’ve created a culture of overthinking it instead of using intuition. Toxic masculinity was a real thing, but we never explained what healthy masculinity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:47 PM
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I think you’re moving the goalposts here. Overweight isn’t always sexually repulsive. Some dudes today like thick or slightly overweight women. Very few men like obese or extremely overweight women. You’re kind of skirting around my actual point and creating an entirely new debate. Let’s change “obese” here. What I mean is bottom of the barrel, completely unfuckable woman. To you, that can be morbidly obese. To me, a huge fat chick is the least fuckable woman there is. But for the sake of my ori…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:43 PM
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Cold approaching is more intimidating and also more rewarding. If you get good at it it’s less effort than being equally good at dating because the skills that require you to be good at cold approaching are extremely parallel with the skills that help you get a woman from date to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:55 PM
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There’s a balance here. I absolutely believe you’re right, but also believe it’s important to acknowledge that many men ARE toxic with their sexuality. Balance is key
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:02 PM
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Okay but I don’t think using all ages for the purpose of this conversation is relevant because the majority of obese women aren’t in the dating pool at all. If we actually look at the dating pool of men and the dating pool of women, these numbers look MUCH different. I don’t think it makes sense for a conversation about dating to consider some 84 year old lady who is expecting her third great grandchild next month. That being said, even if you account for those age groups, only 44% of Americans …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:40 PM
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I feel like it probably goes both ways here. Some chauvinistic men probably have that attitude. Some probably pay for porn because they view women as objects than can be purchased
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:34 PM
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Yeah it’s not a perfect comparison since attraction works much differently for women than it does for men. But I think most men fall into the “very unattractive” category because they’re passive and scared and have no passion or true masculinity. And the men that DO have these things get to essentially lead the best lives ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:22 PM
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Out of curiosity, when you say “the average American woman is obese”, are you talking about all ages combined? I really just don’t think we should be taking people over the age of 50 into consideration here since a much lower % of them are dating. I don’t have data and this is 100% anecdotal, so feel free to correct me with facts if you have them, but I’ve moved to a few different large cities - Charlotte, Denver, and Austin. The vast majority of women 35 or under that I’ve observed are at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:21 PM
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I think you’re misunderstanding what I mean. Women being extremely obese is the least attractive a woman can possibly be to a man. Man being obese isn’t the absolute least attractive he can be to a woman because female -> male attraction works differently than male -> female attraction. The most unattractive men are men with no agency in life, no backbone to set and enforce boundaries, no healthy/protective masculine energy, etc. there are waaaaaaay more dudes that fit this description than ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:03 PM
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There’s actually a cool protein waffle you can eat that burns fat and builds muscle. Google “blue waffle” and check it out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:59 PM
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That’s just not true dude. Most dudes absolutely will jerk off over banging an obese women. I sure as hell will
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:47 PM
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Yep. Men complain about how hard it is because women only sleep with the top 20% of men. But let me tell you - become a top 10% and it is the most rewarding possible lifestyle any human can live. I understand the complaint, but anybody can get ripped and make good money (excluding obvious fringe exceptions for people who serious mental disabilities or physical disabilities).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:40 PM
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The world isn’t fair bud. I’m a man. I get it. The pressure we feel to be exceptional in order to have a chance sucks. But at the end of the day, it’s always your choice to be average or exceptional. If being rich and in killer shape gives me the life that rich, in shape men get, I’m gonna do anything I fucking can to become that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:38 PM
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You’ve never had a killer body before and it shows. Get abs. Gain muscle. Go to pool. If you’re an otherwise normal dude with friends and average social skills but you are jacked and shredded, you can get laid easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:04 AM
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My point: you can be insanely horny but still prefer masturbation to sex if the available options aren’t interesting to you. Therefore, women not having sex doesn’t necessarily mean women are less horny
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:03 AM
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I don’t think that’s how it works. I have a really high sex drive. No matter how horny I am, I’d masturbate before banging a massively obese woman. There are more male equivalents of a massively obese woman than there are massively obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:03 AM
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That was a pretty fire quote. Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:22 PM
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I think men who say this really underestimate how big of a horndog a lot of women actually are. I think some women absolutely do. But I think there are also a fk ton of women who are just huge horndogs just like men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:21 PM
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I find animorphs to be good fiction. I don’t think there’s any truth to the idea that alien slugs are controlling people’s minds and 5 kids who can turn into animals are the only thing stopping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:24 PM
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I mean you will never know her body after 3-6 months compared to somebody who dated her for 4 years. At what point would you expect to be her best lover? After your first time with her? 3 months? A year? 4 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:30 AM
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Comparing the moral implications of having casual sex with being a Nazi is…a stretch. I agree with the premise that we should try and have a society filled with good people, but I also think that casual sex is probably a LOT less harmful than you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:02 PM
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I wouldn’t say that, but I wouldn’t stay in a relationship that wasn’t sexually satisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:05 PM
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I’m 35. I’d prefer a chick between the ages of 27-33. The only reason for that is I want to have kids, otherwise I’d be fine with somebody my age or a few years older. 18-22 year olds are annoying to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:17 AM
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They just want masculine dudes. You don’t HAVE to be an abuser or a bad boy to be masculine. You do need to be a guy that doesn’t give a fuck about what other people think who holds his frame. That can actually look like a lot of different things
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:32 PM
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No, they like to be lead. Being lead is so incredibly sexy. If they’re also being lead on a fun adventure - triple sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:33 AM
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OP, I really appreciate the empathy you have here. I’m a decent looking guy, and I am doing social stuff and having some success. As a man, it’s still hard. There’s a lot of rejection. Dating apps can make me feel incredibly unattractive. It’s still ultimately my responsibility to figure it out, but that doesn’t change the fact that it can be incredibly emotionally debilitating - and that’s as a guy who can be charismatic and is probably a little bit above average in the looks department. If thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:25 AM
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I joined a hiking club. I’ve met some gorgeous women. I also do Brazilian jiu jitsu. I just moved to a new city and have met another woman who also does BJJ, and we have hit it off pretty well so far. It doesn’t HAVE to be bars and clubs. Go on meetup. Find a board game night. Join a DND group. Go first with the intention of just making friends and building a social circle. Find some good friends that are your tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:21 AM
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I think you’re viewing it wrong. Women want a man who will lead them through fun adventures. While the definition of fun adventures can look different to various women, a guy who is going to lots of social events and doing fun things is just way more likely to lead her through fun adventures.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:19 AM
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I disagree. They absolutely take work, but they’re not really that difficult to learn. Step 1: join your local toastmasters club. It’s $60 every 6 months. They’ll teach you how to speak more charismatically, and you’ll network with ambitious and successful people. Step 2: learn healthy/non-needy vulnerability. I recommend an authentic relating group, if possible. They aren’t in every city though. Step 3: desensitization. You naturally get better at a lot of this stuff by repeatedly exposing your…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:15 AM
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I’m sorry you’ve experienced it yourself. I think there are good men and good women out there and you have to weed through a bunch of bs to find them regardless of your gender
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:58 AM
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You can have lots of casual sex and also be a decent human being. You don’t have to pump and dump and ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:48 AM
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I’d agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:21 PM
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Disagree. It’s technology as a whole. Want groceries? Instacart them. Want takeout? Door dash. Want a date? Tinder/Hinge. Want to speak to somebody? Social media. Nobody has to create real connections or build an actual social circle anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:45 PM
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FBI, I’d like to report a future school shooter please
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:21 PM
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This comment wins the internet for the day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:49 PM
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Is that a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:57 PM
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As a straight man, I find dating very difficult sometimes. But I can’t compare it to anybody else’s experience because I’ve never experienced it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:07 PM
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It’s because chicks in their 30s are better in bed. They’re past having sex just because they want approval, know how to have an orgasm, know what they want, and don’t have a problem initiating because they’re horny and want to get off. Younger chicks are hot, sure, but insecurity in bed can really lead to boring sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:09 PM
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I agree with that statement, but you’re oversimplifying it. Being cruel and mean to the point of crushing somebody’s self esteem is obviously psychopathic. If I was starting to hook up with you, and I saw that your left labia was bigger than your right labia and immediately stopped and said “ew your pussy is disgusting” and then left, there’s no world where I wouldn’t be a horrible person You’re allowed to have your boundaries and preferences. Being cruel for the sake of being cruel is never acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:43 PM
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Nah, she’s an outlier. There’s legitimately some dark triad shit going on here. This is the kind of psycho that you avoid at all costs. Most people - men and women - are good people. Don’t let this chick ruin humanity for you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:36 PM
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I mean you can throw me into any box you want, but you’re genuinely a horrible person and most women are not horrible people like you. That’s really just it. Forget dating, forget romance, sex, or anything to do with this topic. You’ve shown clearly that you lack basic human empathy and at best are a severe narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:18 PM
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Troll account ig:/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:07 PM
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I could afford a lambo technically, too. I’d just have to live in a box to make the monthly payments. A child is hard work. Gratifying work, but hard work. If it’s going to cost me so much money that my quality of life when im not around my child significantly drops, it’s not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:02 PM
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Note to men: don’t date women like this. This is the type of woman that makes men not feel safe being vulnerable. And not all women are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:59 PM
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Spot on. I’ll probably make 175k this year. I don’t want a kid because it’s too expensive. I’m working more hours, and cost of living is absolutely through the roof. Not to mention the cost of food is too expensive, and another mouth to feed would just be too much. Like sure, I could afford a family if I moved out to the middle of nowhere. But I wouldn’t be happy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:46 PM
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A girl being ugly isn’t a red flag either. Doesn’t mean you’re attracted to her. Having a strong social network is attractive to women. If you lack that, it just will make you unattractive. Doesn’t matter if it’s fair or not - it’s the reality. Do what you want with that info, but honestly, making friends isn’t terribly difficult with decent social skills and some effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:23 PM
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Currently seeing somebody who has never had an orgasm. She initiates sex more than me. She loves the feeling of being dominated and “stretched out” (her words, not mine). She feels that it’s primal. She finishes me with her mouth and swallows every session. We’ve been seeing each other for two years. I always tell her that I’m happy to do anything she needs to be satisfied, she always reinforces that she loves our sex life. Idk man, she kinda seems like a keeper to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:18 PM
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The problem here is that those men don’t actually have the deightful personality they think they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:15 PM
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This is a great and extremely fascinating rundown of how excessive porn use can cause ED https://youtu.be/wSF82AwSDiU?si=C9UBfHpIUAqjmP59
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:17 AM
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I think you’d be surprised by how many women are as big of horndogs as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:14 PM
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Most of the time, “hookup material” refers to guys who are sexually attractive. They have masculine energy, they’re spontaneous, dominant, etc. “Marriage material” refers to men who aren’t sexually attractive but have qualities like loyalty, kindness, etc. To many men, it feels like their whole lives, the women they are attracted to only see them as friends, but tell them that they will make a great husband for somebody one day. Feeling like nobody finds you sexually desirable can really weigh o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:07 PM
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Idk man some chicks really really like sex too Honestly, if you just learn to not base your entire sense of self worth on your ability to get sex, you easily can become the one that is dangling the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:52 PM
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It is a leap. I could care less what others think. I’m providing relevant anecdotes based on my life experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:30 PM
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Outside of the very extreme cases, you can be genetically ugly but still be attractive by looksmaxing and displaying confident masculine energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:35 PM
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What? How did you possibly jump to this conclusion? And why so aggressive with the comments? There’s very real psychology behind what im saying here. If you dispute the facts, feel free to explain your position instead of trying to go the attack of character route. I’m always open minded to new info.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:09 PM
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I’d argue that men who women actually date are generally happy in their own skin. That is a trait that women find very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:02 PM
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I see what you’re saying, and perhaps I didn’t elaborate very well. TRP will never come to the correct conclusion because their entire movement is reactionary. I disagree with some of the more radical blue pill principles, but it’s hard to form a good opinion on dating when you’re coming from a place of anger, self-hatred, and resentment towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:00 PM
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I don’t think that’s because women are evil. I think society just fucked the younger generations as a whole. I think millennials got it pretty bad, and gen z got it even worse. But at the end of the day, your outcome is your responsibility. Are you going to parties? Or are you staying at home? Are you involved in social circles? Or are you avoiding making friends? Do you work out and eat healthy? Do you have a good career trajectory? This shit is all a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:58 AM
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If you aren’t looksmaxing and doing everything you can to make yourself an attractive choice (improving social skills, improving finances, etc), then I don’t feel bad for you. There are exceptions, but 90% of dudes complaining about how unfair the system is are chubby neckbeards whose only hobby is video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:55 AM
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I’m a blue pill male. Maybe slightly purple but BP leaning. I don’t want to keep men down. I would easily be more moderate, but TRP feels like a radicalized viewpoint motivated by pain and anger. Just be a cool dude who goes after shit he wants but also is kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:14 PM
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Sex and dating is competitive. If you’re losing the competition, it’s your own fault. Plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:58 PM
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You’re right, but that is why you have to work at it. At the end of the day, the dudes who are happiest without getting laid are often the ones that get laid the most. Showing that you want it without needing it is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:26 PM
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If you can’t stand up for yourself, you can’t protect your woman or your children. That’s how her primal brain is reacting here. You don’t have to kick their asses, but you have to show that you’re not being victimized. Even if it means you just confidently say “fuck off or I’m calling the police” without looking like you’re scared or fearful of confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:57 PM
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Yep. With most things, the correct answer is usually somewhere in the moderate middle. Looks matter. But so does personality. If you have one but not the other, it’s better than nothing, but you should always work on maxing out both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:00 PM
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I’ve been in killer shape all of my life. Swam year around as a kid. Got into MMA at 16. I’m 34 now. Looking really good helped at pools some, but I never got consistent lays until I put effort into developing social skills and being good at flirting. Idgaf what anybody says. It’s a skill, and if you’re good at it, it will go a loooong way. Being good looking can make that skill easier, but having social skills and flirting skills is so mandatory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:40 PM
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Are you comparing being sexless to being homeless? Like you made that comparison in your head and genuinely didn’t think it’s ridiculous?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:51 PM
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What % of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:43 AM
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“There’s nothing they can do about it” That’s just not true. Eating healthy, good sleep, managing stress, avoiding hard drugs and excessive drinking, etc, all will make you look more youthful. Weight training + calorie management will always keep you more thin. I’m a man. I do all of those things while maintaining a full-time, high pressure corporate job. I know plenty of men and women who do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:09 PM
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It’s a fair assumption. Doesn’t make it always right, but you don’t usually see rich people complain about how difficult it is to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:08 PM
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She didn’t say “if you look too ugly”. Listen. If you have strong masculine energy and love life the way you want to fucking live, you can get girls. I’ve seen some ugly ass dudes land hot af girlfriends because they just truly have the masculine dgaf mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:40 PM
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Can you give me an example of one of those novels and describe the behavior you’re referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:30 PM
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Have you read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:32 AM
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Certain types of weakness is sexually repulsive to women. Men will put up with a woman being a total bitch. But if a woman is just hideous as fk, you’ll never be interested. That’s the best comparison here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:49 PM
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Yes. You can divorce for anything. If you’re not happy, get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:30 AM
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I mean, I don’t think “accidentally” literally means falling down on somebody’s dick. I think it means “my intention wasn’t to get laid, but I met somebody I felt really attracted to and got caught up in the feels”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:27 AM
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Well im a man, so I can’t speak for their experience. I wasnt opposed to the idea of getting laid, but I didn’t expect it and wasn’t looking for it. I was just having fun and met somebody who I vibed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:18 AM
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I have no idea what point you’re trying to make or what side you’re even on here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:09 AM
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I was on a business retreat a few weeks ago. After a mixer, a big group of us went to the club. The thought of getting laid was r on my mind at all. We just wanted to get fucked up and be rough and dance. Hilariously enough, I did end up getting laid. But that wasn’t really my intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:30 PM
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Fat dude staring creepily in that whole video. It never would have mattered if he was in her friends circle or not. Dude is creepy AF
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:13 PM
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OP and the opposition are both right. Sex should be viewed as something to do with somebody, not something that is rewarded from somebody. To be frank, if you are only using women as a vessel to masturbate or feed your ego, you’re missing out on one or the best parts of sex - the connectivity. It’s also perfectly fine to hold the viewpoint that if women want men to stop being assholes, they need to stop fucking assholes. Sex is a primal urge that drives the behavior of both genders, and if men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:47 PM
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I’m not at all arguing that it’s not an insult. I’m arguing that it’s an expression, and nobody is literally meaning “he has a small dick” If I say somebody has “douchebag vibes” I don’t literally mean that they seem like somebody who cleans vaginas. If you don’t understand the nuances of the English language well enough to comprehend how figures of speech work, idk if we can have a productive discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:34 PM
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I mean not that much. Look dude, if you’re so broke that you can’t do anything, you need to figure that out before you focus on getting laid/a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:21 PM
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I’ve always heard “break a leg”, but “shake a leg” works perfectly fine in this example that you’re not actually addressing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:06 AM
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Are you seriously denying the existence of figures of speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:05 AM
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When I say “break a leg” to somebody who needs to get something done, I don’t literally want them to break one of their legs Figured of speech are a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:23 AM
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All religion sucks. Right now, Islamic culture sucks a lot more
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:20 AM
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Men’s dating challenges are often downplayed, and the toll it can take on your self esteem to feel undesirable can be brutal But you absolutely can have a fantastic dating life if you put in the effort. It means being better than the average man and doing more than him. It means learning how to flirt, how to lead, how to become more confident, etc. But the good news is that by doing this, areas outside of your dating life also get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:54 PM
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I personally know people who have been in open relationships for years and are happy. It depends on the people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:25 AM
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It’s not at all “I’m a special snowflake” logic. What a silly conclusion to draw. Everybody’s sex drive is different. Everybody’s emotional attachment styles are different. Everybody’s desires within a relationship is different. The idea that some blanket rule needs to apply to everybody regardless of these circumstances is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:17 PM
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As a dude who doesn’t slut shame and also has no problem building a connection with somebody before getting intimate - if I had to wait that long, I’d just assume she doesn’t have a strong enough sex drive to keep up with me and leave because I’d feel like we were incompatible. I hate these stupid games where some arbitrary number is put down for a time limit. Just do it when it feels right. If 3 months is around when it feels right, then so be it. If 1 week is when it feels right, then so be it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:02 PM
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Everybody is different and every situation is different. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:52 PM
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It’s not discrimination to reject somebody for a physical feature, whether it’s weight, height, hair color, dick size, boob size, nose size, eye shape, etc. Discrimination is not letting somebody have a job or go to college because of it. Not wanting to date them is a preference. Nobody chooses what they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 06:53 PM
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Make friends with the whole friend group, not just her. Rookie mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:31 PM
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My dude, I am a man. And I consider myself to be pretty masculine. I am a BJJ black belt, I lift weights every day, I like to build shit, I have strong healthy boundaries, etc. Things that men do isn’t what toxic masculinity is. Picking fights at a bar because you need to prove how tough you are - that’s toxic masculinity. Being terrified to ever show emotion because feel like you’ll be viewed as weak - that’s toxic masculinity. These are things that are just bad. We can call them something else…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:42 PM
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Toxic masculinity is definitely real. Masculine is fine. Toxic masculine isn’t. Toxic femininity also is real. And healthy femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:15 AM
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I actually would agree with some of that. I do think working on yourself is the best answer, but I agree with you that men shouldn’t be shamed for their desires, instincts, and impulses
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:33 PM
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The reality is this - you’re not wrong. It’s way easier for women to get sex But bro. If you’re salty about it and hold resentment because of it, you’re losing at life. Even if you were asexual…you should be doing the things that get you laid anyway. It’s like literally proven that people are more happy when they’re on top of shit like that Most of the guys who resent women for what they’re attracted to are guys that want to skate by in life without doing the work. They want sex to come easy for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:45 PM
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I mean if you’re consistently giving her orgasms, she’ll want sex about as much as you do. If you also maintain an emotional connection, are in touch with a healthy sense of strong masculinity, have your own interests outside of her too, and take her in exciting dates, it’s pretty unlikely to be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:20 PM
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Dude is trolling. I’d recommend just not engaging here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:39 AM
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I feel sad for you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:14 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:27 PM
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Not wanting to date somebody doesnt automatically equate to hatred. I can be friends with a sex worker no problem. I can treat them like a human being who deserves respect and equality no problem. I’m not dating her though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:49 PM
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I’m a man. Good job, emotionally available, in good shape, and consider myself to be a strong leader. I am center-left politically and don’t care about body count. I wouldn’t date a girl who had an onlyfans. It’s not make cope. It’s just unattractive and feels like somebody who took the easy way out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:47 PM
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It will 100% make things a lot more difficult for you The good news is that you can start working on your social circle. You do have control over if
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:38 PM
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This is a perfect example of confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:47 PM
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You’re only a wage slave if you’re not working towards something
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:09 PM
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Women absolutely can be as horny as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:21 PM
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When did you choose to be straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:20 PM
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Men can…fuck so many women that they turn gay? What next? Fat people can eat so much cake that they love vegetables?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:19 PM
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Lmao /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:14 PM
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I believe people can. I also believe people can change. And you take it on a case-by-case basis. Someone who has been in therapy for years or spent long periods of time genuinely working on themselves is different than the “I swear I’ll change this time” people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:33 PM
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You believe people are incapable of change?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:20 AM
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What if he used to be into casual but isn’t anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:18 AM
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Mediocrity is subjective my dude. You’re allowed to have whatever boundaries you want, but going down on the person your dating is a pretty crazy line to draw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:34 PM
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Giving a blowjob to her boyfriend is degrading?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:07 PM
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I disagree. Some people just don’t really think about traditions like these or how much they’re benefitting from it. They just do what their parents did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:06 AM
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I don’t think it’s selfishness. They’re not thinking “what can I take at the expense of somebody else” They’re just going along passively
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:29 AM
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You’re way too angry about this my dude. And you’re thinking way too deeply about it. Women don’t choose to not pay because they are evil freeloading scum. It’s just the way they were raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:39 PM
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If you’re so broke that the risk of paying for somebody else’s meal is actually a serious risk, you need to either go out on different dates or focus on your financials before dating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:32 PM
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You can totally build a social circle outside of your 20s. It requires social skills and social confidence, and willingness to put yourself out there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:20 PM
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People want to date people with similar values and beliefs? That’s craaaazy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:28 AM
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It’s okay to have friends dude. This is such a garbage human take. I am very happy with my sex life. I have three different FWBs and they all know that I’m hooking up with other people. I also have quite a few girls im friends with that I’ll never fuck. It’s literally totally okay tk just have friends
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:18 PM
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Being a nice guy is when you pretend to friend somebody when you actually want to bone them. If your actual intention is to be friends with them with no altering motive, you won’t be a “nice guy” Just make friends. Get friend zoned. It’s fine. Friend zone them back. Spend more time hanging around girls and developing the social skills necessary to have conversations with girls. It’ll take pressure off of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:14 PM
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Dude, by touch grass, start by spending a year just expanding your social circle and not focusing on dating. Specifically, make female friends. If you can’t interact with a woman as a friend, you’re never going to develop the social intuition to have a chance in a relationship. Legit, find women and no matter how hot they are or how much you like them, make them off limits in your mind. Just become friends with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:57 PM
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You have such a pessimistic view man. I am into BJJ. I have been training for 18 years. It’s a passion of mine I’ve never dated a girl who gave a fuck about BJJ. But every girl I’ve dated thinks it’s really cool that I do BJJ
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:15 AM
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If the only reason you’re socializing is just to get laid, the issue isn’t socializing. If the only reason you’re doing anything is just to get laid, that’s the reason why you’re not getting laid. Getting laid can’t just be the only thing you care about in life. It will make you end up acting needy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:51 AM
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Haha I’m sure there’s a better way. No hard feelings if it was a dealbreaker, I’m just curious. I actually like education and will probably go back one day if my career is successful, but I’d do it more out of interest in learning things and not for the purpose of making money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:44 PM
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Thanks for that clarification. I dropped out of college to pursue a career that made sense to me. I love education and value it a lot, and the women I date tend to be career oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:43 PM
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That’s interesting. Out of curiosity - if you absolutely KNEW that he wouldn’t resent you for your education, would it still be a dealbreaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:54 PM
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Curious - I’m in tech sales. Making around 217k/year, in the process of starting an e-commerce brand. Dropped out of college my senior year because sales paid more than any job I was going to get with my degree. Is this disqualifying to you based on your reasoning for wanting a degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:20 PM
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False. It’s not nice vs mean. It’s weak vs strong. Unfortunately, most douchebags are strong and most nice people are weak when you’re in your teens-early 20s. You can be strong and kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 05:09 PM
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I’m a dude and idgaf about her body coint
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:00 AM
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I’d say it’s more of a trend than an absolute rule. But I’d also say that a big part of why dudes who have never had a social circle struggle with dating is that they have no social skills. Focusing on building a social circle will help someone develop social skills. You already had those social skills. But even then, I’d argue that if you have a social circle there, you’ll be getting laid even more than you are now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:03 PM
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Dude, this is where I just have a hard time believing that any of the people talking like you are actually have a rich social life I see average and even below average dudes getting cute girlfriends ALL THE TIME. If you are a normal, socially adjusted dude who has a good sense of humor, lots of friends, dresses well, and enjoys doing fun social activities, you’re just going to meet enough girls that you’ll end up being somebody’s type. I think some of you have just decided upon defeat and have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:55 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:26 PM
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It’s not required to be a millionaire to get a woman. But with that said, being a millionaire isn’t actually crazy difficult. Anybody with a 250k+ job can become a millionaire in 5-10 years if you manage your wealth correctly. In your early twenties, optimize for skills and connections. Make lots of friends, develop marketable skills. This makes getting a 250k+ job very easy. Once you get the 250k+ job, optimize for income stream assets. Vanguard/index funds are something you should definitely b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:25 PM
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That’s funny OP because I meet women all the time Including bars, and many of them are awesome people who could be great for LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:18 PM
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I think it’s the exact opposite. I’d you’re a confident and influential guy, girls will get into your hobbies so that they can connect with you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:05 PM
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With the people you met? Also, fuck clubs. Clubs are terrible to make new friends IMO. Dive bars where there are activities or you can have conversation - that’s where it’s at.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:02 PM
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Move to a bigger city then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:47 PM
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So first of all, good on you for doing the class. Don’t ask the girls out in the class though. Your intuition was correct - it can make you seem thirsty. Instead, try and host a social event with people (both genders, attractive and unattractive). Invite all of the people around your age to a bar after. Or see if people want to go actually Latin dancing over the weekend. Before focusing on getting girls, focus on becoming a central planner/organizer for a social group. That person always becomes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:47 PM
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What you’re describing is mentorship, not friendship. Mentorship is great. I strongly encourage it. I also believe you need close friends who you do social, fun activities with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 09:52 AM
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First of all, I think it’s awesome you did those things. I’m a black belt in BJJ so I’m especially partial to that. I think it’s important to have those kinds of bro hobbies. They make you more interesting when you’re in social groups. I think it’s important to have social hobbies too. The group game night I was talking about, for example. We play games like Cards Against Humanity…makes it easy to interact with people. I am genuinely sorry if you’ve been struggling and sorry if you feel like it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:37 PM
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What kind of effort and for how long have you been trying? When I moved to my city, I immediately joined a Facebook group for people in their 20s and 30s. I made a post “hey who would like to start a game night at x brewery?” 8 people said they’d come. 5-6 showed the first time. I hosted it every week, more people come, we post every week, have a group chat now, and it’s grown to 10-12 regulars. It was completely effortless. I just put myself out there along with a fun social activity. I mean th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:26 PM
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Man, I’m not framing it in a negative way, it’s just a negative thing. You can and should have things in common and things you enjoy doing/talking about with your partner. It’s good to have separate interests as well, but connection requires you to have things in common. I think back to my exes, and I can see what was different and what was similar. I’m into MMA and video games and am very social. My most recent ex was more quiet and shy and artsy. We were different in those ways. But we both re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:23 PM
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Ah yes, nothing proves an extremely complicated and layered hypothesis on behavioral psychology across an entire culture quite like a single interaction with one specific woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:48 PM
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My point was that you have absolutely nothing in common with them. Nothing whatsoever you can relate to with them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:42 PM
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I don’t think I did? His point: I don’t have anything in common with women except my desire to sleep with them That’s how I’m interpreting it. How are you interpreting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:04 PM
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Yea they are. There is a direct correlation between effort and results here. If you put in 0 effort, you always make 0 friends. If you’re constantly going to social events, meetups, signing up for things like sports leagues, volunteer gigs, etc, your odds of making new friends goes waaay up. If you simultaneously work on your social skillls and confidence, they go up even more. You’re using this as an excuse to not try, which puts you in the 0% chance category.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:02 PM
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Ah yes, the best partners are the ones that barely speak your language, know nothing about your culture, can’t relate to your upbringing, and are so impoverished that they’d take anything if it meant a chance for a better life. A match made in heaven
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:00 PM
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Yes it is. It’s easier in college only because activities are spoon-fed to you. Join an adult sports league. Volunteer. Use meetups to find a group that interests you. Create a Facebook group for making new friends. Go to a group workout class like CrossFit. Join a BJJ gym. All of these things are very available in almost all cities in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:59 PM
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No, you’re interpreting my intent incorrectly. I don’t want to muzzle anybody. I want these guys to develop the self-awareness necessary to change their lives Until you’re willing to say “my shortcomings are my responsibility” you’re never going to get better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:57 PM
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The thing is, I don’t have the personality. I’m a nerdy ass brain analytical thinker. The difference is that I acknowledged that my social skills were sub-par and invested in them. So many dudes on here focus on blaming uncontrollable circumstances for their shortcomings instead of just doing it. It probably is harder for some people than others. But if you use “it’s too hard” as an excuse to never do it, it’s 100% your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:56 PM
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Looks and fashion are like your resume. It gets you a chance. Talking skill and flirting skill is like your ability to interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:49 PM
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I’m a single guy. I’m not shut out of a social circle. Right now, the people I hang out with the most are a group of people, 4 of them are in relationships, 2 of them single girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:53 AM
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Bro there’s just no way that’s correct. Having a good social circle is going to be highly correlated with being socially adjusted and having good social skills. Being socially adjusted and having good social skills is highly correlated with being successful in your romantic life. This means that even if I’m wrong and there’s no causal relationship, there’s still a correlation. Just on a basic level, girls want to see that guys have friends. If you have no friends, she will get a weird vibe and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:51 AM
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Um, excuse me but what the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:48 AM
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I think that is the case when you cold approach. When you’re introduced to a girl through your social circle, it isn’t the case though. You’re basically being endorsed by their friends. This is also why it’s so valuable to have female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:46 AM
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I mean if you have nothing in common and nothing you enjoy doing with women, then the only thing you want from them is sex. Hence why I say you only see them as sex objects But there’s no way you don’t have anything in common with any women. Do you like video games? Some women like video games. So you like live music? Craft beer? Psychedelics? Standup comedy? Escape rooms? Sports games? I mean like what are your hobbies that literally no women will ever be able to enjoy them with you or talk abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:44 AM
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It doesn’t need to be large. It can just be quality. Having a core group of 4-5 friends you do things with is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:41 AM
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I agree, but it’s also your responsibility to fix your life. Blaming uncontrollable circumstances is only going to make things harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:40 AM
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Nobody is saying it happens immediately, but how old are you, and how long have you lived in the city you’re in? If you don’t have one it’s 100% because you chose to not build one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:39 AM
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I think there’s some truth to that but it’s not an absolute. Familiarity breeds comfort and comfort breeds friendship and connection. If you’re around and you’re friendly, people will eventually be cool with you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:56 PM
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Sorry you feel that way. I am not saying it’s the easiest thing in the world, but it’s not incredibly hard, either I moved to a new city where I knew nobody. I have a solid social circle after about 3 months. I joined a jiu jitsu school and invited some of the guys there out to watch UFC at Buffalo Wild Wings. Now we’re in a group chat and hang out on weekends. I went to some social events in my apartment complex, now me and a bunch of my neighbors go to the bar across the street a few times a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:54 PM
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What’s your social circle like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:51 PM
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How wide is your social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:50 PM
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If you have a decent social circle, you can just start meeting women while hanging out with your friends. Getting warm introductions gives you a massive leg up here. “If it wasn’t for sex and reproduction, how much time would we actually spend together?” See, it’s this toxic mindset that is causing you to actually struggle with dating. You just see women as sex objects. There are some cool fucking chicks out there that are fun to talk to. And fun to do things with. Sex is fucking awesome, but if…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:50 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:47 PM
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Why do you say that? (I’m 34 btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:46 PM
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That’s just absurdly false
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:46 PM
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I’m an average man outside of getting really fit, and social circle has been by far by best success
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:45 PM
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I realize that cold approaching exists. I’m making the argument that going from meet -> date is much much easier when meeting in the context of your social circle vs meeting in the context of cold approaching or online dating. Trust is much easier to gain in warm meets vs cold meets. Your take on friendship is bizarre. You start off as acquaintances. Then you hang out more and more and become friends. Have you just like not made friends this way? This is how friends have been made since I was li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:29 PM
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If you have quality friends, a good job, and a rich social life, it is 1000000000000000x easier to find love. That’s a lifestyle that women want to be a part of. But even if it wasn’t, you shouldn’t just give up on everything just because one category isn’t going so well for you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:27 PM
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And? Are you going to just wallow in salt over the fact that they have it easier than you in certain things? What does that have to do with you taking action on your own dating life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:26 PM
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It’s always helpful, sure. But even if you’re just going out with a few bros, you’re more likely to meet women without having to do cold approaches. Often times conversations just happen organically, especially if you do activities. Invite girls to play cornhole or pool with your friends, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:25 PM
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So like, yes and no. You’re going to have super close friends that you’re friends with for years, and those people will probably be off limits. But you’ll also have more distant friends that are not off limits. The people who are kinda friends-of-friends that you get introduced to by your friends. You see them at some social gatherings but not all the time. There are a few really hot girls in my social circle. I don’t bang those girls. But they have friends they invite to shit that we do. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:23 PM
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How’s your social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:21 PM
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You didnt answer the question. How’s your social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:21 PM
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Making friends is actually insanely easy if you actually just go do stuff. And it’s not irrelevant. Having a strong social circle makes it much easier to meet women, and when you do meet them, it’s a warm intro that makes it much easier to connect compared to a cold approach or an OLD app
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:20 PM
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I would argue that they’re confused and possibly even argue that they have unhealthy/damaged fem. Both gender energies (what we’re calling masculinity and femininity) should give and take, they just do so in different ways. The masculine gives by protection and providing a sense of safety and security, holding space, etc. the feminine gives by nurturing and nourishing. Again to clarify - this is not to normalize any specific gender roles. Sometimes a man needs to nourish. Sometimes a woman need …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:54 PM
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I’m not sure, but here’s my guess. It’s not referring to sometimes feeling grief or sometimes feeling sadness. It’s more likely referring to being overwhelmed with those feelings to the point where they’re your entire personality. I can ask the group and get back on that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:51 PM
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I understand why you may see it that way. I’m assuming you’re male, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. I have never specifically seen this used in a psych survey or anything, but I do believe that the negative traits of masculinity there perfectly align with the textbook definition of toxic masculinity. To be clear - the group I got this from acknowledges the idea that both genders can have both healthy and unhealthy traits from masculine and feminine. These are just meant to be used as d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:36 PM
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Since this is a debate sub, are you interested in explaining what’s wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:19 PM
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Nah, what you’re saying is accurate. I got this from a retreat I went to. They emphasized that both genders can have healthy and unhealthy feminist and masculinity. But the gender you identify as will be more predominantly present in your personality. Healthy masculinity is sexy to women. The term “masculine energy” is very much real. Toxic masculinity is confusingly attractive to women with damaged fem. If men understand how to embody their masculinity in a healthy way, they can be fucking king…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:18 PM
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Most people don’t understand the concept of toxic masculinity. You can be powerful without being toxic. Toxic femininity is also a thing. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:17 PM
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My best friends gf has a trainer that works at her gym. Dude is 5’5 if he stands on his tippy toes. short AF He’s also a professional body builder, is super jacked, and fucking oozes with confidence in that environment. His wife is sexy as fuck. IDGAF if you don’t believe me. You’re obviously really young and don’t have the life experience to have seen stuff like that happen. But it’s true 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:20 PM
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Looking attractive matters. Personality also matters. They both matter. It’s also likely that you acted more confident once you felt better about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:18 PM
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Wrong. Only dudes that don’t have game think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:40 PM
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Bro I have seen with my own two eyes dudes that are 5’4 get very attractive girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:40 PM
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No it’s not. This is an excuse. Short guys, even guys that short, absolutely still pull. It is absolutely harder and requires a strong sense of zen and self worth, but you 100000% can pull as a shorter guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:50 PM
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Bro you’re absolutely right about some people having advantages. There are going to be some people who will never date shorter guys. There are going to be some people who will never date me because I’m ethnically Jewish and have a squint in my left eye and large nose. You just make the best you can of the cards your dealt and focus on being a strong, masculine personality. You can absolutely still get hot girls. A 5’4 guy who bulks up to the point that he’s jacked, doesn’t tolerate bullshit from…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:48 PM
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And your game. Your personality also matters. Looks are like your resume. It gets women interested in you enough to let you do an interview. Having a strong masculine presence/personality is your interview skills. It’s what builds strong sexual attraction. Bro my face is average, maybe slightly below because I have a squint in my left eye that’s very noticeable. I’m average height. I am in great shape. The girl im seeing is a legit 10/10. Modeled for Playboy (classy only that didn’t show any nip…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:45 PM
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Are you muscular? Are you either in a kick ass career that is making bank or working towards it? Do you have a cool hobby that makes you interesting? Do you have social confidence and a masculine presence? Do you have white, straight teeth? A good haircut? Clothes that are fashionable, fit you well, and showcase your identity? If the answer to all/most of that is no, IDGAF about everything else you’re saying. If you’re not doing your best in the categories you CAN control, it’s pathetic to compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:33 PM
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I don’t hate em. I feel bad for em. My ex was in AA, and one of the concepts there was that anybody could get sober, except certain people who were completely incapable of being honest with themselves. That’s what these guys are. They’re not capable of being honest with themselves. They should be pitied because their lives will suck. Not just romance, but every category of their lives. They’ll blame outside circumstances for their lack of financial success. They’ll blame outside circumstances fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:26 PM
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They CAN get 9/10 chicks tbh. It does mean they need to develop themselves more, but I really do believe that everybody can get hot ass girls if they put in the work, maybe with exceptions where something is really extreme (being born a dwarf, for example, would make things very very hard)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:33 PM
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I’ll never forget this one day I when I was in college. I was training for an MMA fight and I’m the process of cutting weight. I was fucking SHREDDED. 6-pack, defined muscles, etc. I went to this pool party, and had three different women literally tell me they wanted to have sex with me. I was also super confident as well, and had a lot of friends there, which made me look like I had a lot of social proof But that’s exactly the point. I have a squint in my left eye. My facial symmetry is all out…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:32 PM
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Excuses. You’re suffering from cognitive dissonance. First of all, you can’t even measure “good personality” in a study, so idk wtf kind of cracked ass studies you’re looking at. What you can measure is personality traits women tend to go for. And masculine, strong personalities consistently get more girls than weak personalities Being short can make you seem less strong as a first impression. If your personality is strong, once people get to know you, it becomes much less of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:26 PM
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100% Many men who aren’t successful pick out one thing that they have no control over and make their lack of success all about that. Short dudes will say women only care about height, for example. By making it all about the things they have no control over, it justifies their lack of effort in improving the things they do have control over. You only 5’7, but youre in killer shape, got white af teeth, a great job, and you are the funniest dude in the room? You’re going to fucking slay. I’ve got n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:03 PM
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I have an average face and am 5 10. I’m also in killer shape. It makes all the difference. Stop allowing one experience to dictate your entire perception of reality. Every woman is different. Some will value height more. Some will value muscle more. Some will value face more. Some will value something weird like dimples in the side of your head or some shit I swear just focus on gaining confidence and improving in every way you can. Stop looking for reasons to not try
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:59 PM
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I think if you have a passion for foreign culture and a think for women of a specific culture, being a passport bro is fine. I love travel. And if I happened to meet an awesome girl while traveling, I’d be all about it If you’re just going somewhere hoping that merely being in a different location will solve all of your romantic and sexual problems, I believe you’re going to be disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:55 PM
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I think it can be fine to have age gap relationships. But a lot of the time, the men in their 30s can’t get women their own age because those women see them as losers. They’re often way behind in terms of financial independence, emotional maturity, etc. These men can seem really cool to younger women who have no idea that these men are actually just really immature. These young women think they’re dating somebody older because they’re mature for their age and are being noticed m and appreciated …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:52 PM
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No, but I’m asking the same of them? There are universal attraction triggers that are based off of human psychology and bypass all culture. To me, it just doesn’t make sense that those triggers are suddenly irrelevant in 3rd world countries. When you consider that many of these triggers are within our control, it just makes more sense to improve yourself and focus on getting women here. As somebody fascinated by self improvement psychology, it just seems like passport bro movement is a way to tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:36 PM
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But they also like men who have masculinity and confidence. If girls here don’t see that in you, what makes you think girls over there will?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 06:00 AM
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I don’t care what other dudes do, but I just doubt they’re going to find the success overseas they think theyll find.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:58 AM
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If either party isn’t able to be emotionally vulnerable, they’re not ready to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:53 AM
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If heroin is why somebody doesn’t have his life together, why does he continuously seek out heroin? Addiction. Numbing. It’s a cycle. Man is lonely. Man uses porn to relieve himself of loneliness. Porn makes him more lonely. Man then uses porn more frequently to relieve this higher level of loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:20 PM
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I mean what can you possibly have in common with somebody 16 years older than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:01 PM
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Dudes who are 30 and want to date 18 year olds view women as sex objects and view relationships as a means to get sex and nothing else. No companionship, no close emotional/psychological connection, etc. Those guys probably don’t realize this about themselves, but that’s what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:46 PM
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This is not how math works But seriously, there is a massive difference in outlook and maturity between a 38 y/o and a 23 y/o The only way you don’t realize that is if you’re really young
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:31 PM
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Dudes are going to read all of these responses and still say that all women care about is money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:16 PM
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Disagree. Nobody has the right to tell anybody who to dress. If you don’t like they way they dress, don’t date them. You should assume that they way they dress when single is the way they’ll dress when in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:42 PM
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I recommend practicing mindfulness meditation. Headspace app is a great resource for that. It’s like a muscle. You exercise it. You meditate daily, and after a while, when a hot girl starts talking to you, instead of feeling nervous, you just kinda roll with it and enjoy the interaction. You end up coming off as super confident and well put together, but instead of faking it, you’re just actually comfortable with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:22 AM
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Dating apps are not real life. Dudes who think dating apps = how dating actually works are telling on themselves for never having had a real social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:20 AM
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I appreciate you wanting to understand better. I’m referring to it purely as a state of consciousness. It’s being fully in the moment mentally and emotionally. You’re not thinking about if something you say will be cool. You’re not thinking about what you have to do later or what happened earlier. You’re fully focused and immersed in the present. The best way to accomplish this is practicing mindful meditation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:18 AM
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Sorry I forgot that celebrities aren’t human beings. A hot chick had sex with a busted ass ugly dude. Why? Because he’s a celebrity? Not because of his looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:17 PM
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Pete Davidson fucked Ariana Grande. That alone is insane amounts of proof that looks are not even close to the most important thing when it comes to female -> male attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:17 PM
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I mean even if you just want casual sex, I’d re-read the entire post. “You’ll also have a hard time getting enough trust to get in her pants” is pretty relevant here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:57 AM
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You don’t have to change your personality to be more present and in the moment. I think when people say things like what you’re saying, they’re experiencing cognitive dissonance. It’s easier to say “I’m not going to do all of these ridiculous things” than it is to actually do the work necessary to get what you want, deal with rejection and failure, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:55 AM
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Or you can just be both
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 03:25 AM
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Because unlike black pillers, I’m getting laid. And to further my point, I used to be somebody that couldn’t get laid, and I improved myself and now am happy with my sex and romantic life. One of my favorite quotes, that I strongly believe applies to black pill dudes: “The reason why we self sabotage is because it allows us to predict what’s going to happen, which gives us the illusion of control over our pain”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:50 AM
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No dude, you’re wrong. Connection requires you to be present and not just tuned into your intellect. You have to be in a more emotional state where you’re more focused on how things feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:33 AM
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The fuck lol. There are plenty of super cool chicks out there that are very fun to talk to. You won’t ever experience that because you’re so focused on what you can get from them that you’ll literally never just vibe with anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:22 AM
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I’d agree that you’re right, but I also think that gap has to be much larger than you’d think. If you only live in your head and never in the present, you’re never going to connect with anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:21 AM
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When was this thread about preferences? It’s about how obvious it is that people are younger vs older. Most people can just tell. Idgaf how old your preferences are, but if you can look at a 30 year old and a 20 year old on average and not be able to tell which one is which, you’re blind
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:58 PM
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Yep exactly. I mentioned this briefly in another comment chain, but I attended a tantric retreat a few months ago, and they talked about thinking from different parts of your body. Thinking with your head is logical and analytical. Great for stem-like work, organization, spreadsheets, task-like work, debating, etc. it’s important to be able to this. Thinking with your heart is what let’s you connect emotionally, be present in the moment, feel things like “fun” and “energy”. You need to be able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:44 PM
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It’s true, but there are evolutionary benefits to just going for shit instead of shitting the bed with analysis paralysis
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:35 PM
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Hit the nail on the head
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:34 PM
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Dude, when you are 30, you’re going to see what I mean. There is no logical debate to be had here. You can just tell. And you will be able to just tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:34 PM
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See that’s you trying to be too logical and analytical about it dude. The RP/black pill guys kinda crack me up because you’re all so positive that you know what women want, but you all think they want different things. Some of you think they only care about looks. Some only about height. Some only about money. But you’re all so. Damn. Positive. That you’re correct. I have found that very few women care about a guy being able to buy her a Chanel purse. Even really attractive women. Maybe if you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:32 PM
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If it’s not a corporate job, shit all over where you eat. If you’re a bartender or something, it’s not like you’re trying to do that forever anyway. If it’s a job that is part to your career, that’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:43 PM
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Exactly. It’s okay to be analytical as long as you’re still actionable. Indecisiveness is an incredibly unattractive quality, and it’s better to make the wrong decision than no decision most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:40 PM
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Dude, do you remember when you were in middle school and high school freshmen looked so grown up, but when you were a senior, they looked like babies? That process never stops. People a lot younger than you just look a lot younger. I can’t explain the mechanics. I’m a male btw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:39 PM
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These two pictures are not nearly enough evidence to prove your point lol. I’m 34. A 22 year old looks like a baby to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:28 PM
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It’s not the money itself that’s attractive. Taking action is masculine. Assertively going after what you want in life is masculine. The money is awesome, but it’s the masculine energy behind it that is universally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:27 PM
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I mean there is a time and place for intelligence too. You just have to show that you’re capable of being a normal person who can live in the moment and be fun without analyzing and logic-ing everything to death. If you can be that guy, your intelligence will be a bonus and very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:06 PM
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Sorta. Intelligence can be a huge advantage if you allow it to be an advantage I feel like a lot of smart people are also arrogant about their intellect to the point that they’ll never consider the idea that they’re wrong about something. Intelligent people tend to be more ego driven, especially in relation to their intelligence. All of these red and black pills on here are smart as fuck, and they also are so beyond positive that they understand women so well - it’s women that are the problem, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:32 PM
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Because being smart isn’t a disadvantage. Inability to connect with people and just live in the moment is. Most people who are smart, especially when their intelligence is a huge part of their identity, just never ever allow themselves to be present, which si vital for connection
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:28 PM
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I agree, but I also think it can be improved upon. I also think part of the problem is that intelligent people think they need to have the perfect thing to say ALL THE TIME. Like every sentence has to be this masterfully crafted, cleverly phrased masterpiece. If you just focus on having fun and enjoying the presence of other people, you’ll have your moments where you shine, and you’ll also just seem like a normal dude that can connect with people when you’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:31 PM
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I think there are 3 groups of men: 1 - The naturals. These guys are either naturally good looking or naturally charming, and they just don’t have to try. 2 - Those that are willing to improve their looks and social skills 3 - those that aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:04 PM
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I would even say that it’s okay to be an analytical person, but you have to know when to shut it off. I went to a tantric retreat once that talked about being in your head vs in your heart and body. When you’re present in your head, you’re analytical. This is great for doing spreadsheets, organizing shit, math, science, STEM, etc. Being in your heart and body is letting your emotions and instincts drive and focusing on how you feel. When you’re flirting or trying to connect, focusing on how you …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:03 PM
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Yeah. Being witty and clever is attractive. Being book smart CAN be attractive if it’s combined with confidence and wit. The problem is that intelligent people tend to be over thinkers. They doubt themselves too much because they question everything and are constantly analyzing whether somebody likes them or not. The smooth brains just go on instinct and are actionable and decisive. It really just comes down to intelligent people needing to trust their intuition more and knowing when to turn the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:58 PM
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It’s because high iq men often get too analytical, which then causes them to forget how to live in the moment and be fun. You can be both. Once you learn how to be both, you actually have a leg up on the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:43 PM
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You know why you find women who are fit more attractive than women who are obese? Because your primal brain wants somebody who looks healthy because healthy means they can pass better genes off to your future children. The foods we prefer, the people we are attracted to, and MANY other things associated with how we behave are associated with primal instincts. It doesn’t mean we’re monkeys flinging shit at each other, but it’s an absolute fact that many of our preferences are rooted in our lizard…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:02 PM
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Agree with u/haymakergirl2025 Make friends with women. Seriously. Set out on a mission to be just friends with some women and set a boundary. Spend more time socializing in general, too. Flirting is something that comes naturally as you improve your social skills as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:30 PM
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I mean sure, but we still have primal urges. Im not saying we are slaves to our base impulses, but primal urges absolutely explain a LOT about human social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:29 PM
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That’s not what it is man. It’s primal. Women like men who take the lead because it makes them feel safe, and that sense of safety is a primal attraction trigger that women subconsciously seek out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:12 PM
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True, but the baseline is waaaaay lower than a lot of dudes think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:07 PM
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Women generally want proactive men who will take the lead on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:41 PM
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It’s both of those things. You need to be able to create some sexual tension AND have deep, connecting convo. If it’s just sexual tension, you’re a fuck boy. You might sometimes get laid, but you’ll never get a relationship or even a meaningful FWB that way. You’ll also have a harder time getting enough trust to get in her pants. If it’s just deep connection without sexual tension, you’re just a friend most of the time. Learning how to flirt goes a long way. If you are good at flirting, you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:34 PM
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It is and it isn’t. If you actually understand healthy masculinity, how to be attractive while still being a good guy, etc, you can basically have a massive leg up in the dating world. Our society conditions men to not only not understand these concepts, but to actively avoid them and feel like they’re doing something wrong by embracing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:30 PM
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Fun. Strong masculine energy. Interesting. Witty and funny. Leader. There are way more ways to be attractive as a man than there is as a woman. If you choose to fixate on the things you can’t control, you are choosing your own loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:47 AM
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Hypothesis: man who think you have to be one/all of those things to get an attractive gf are experiencing cognitive dissonance
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 04:02 AM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 01:02 AM
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Love and companionship seems like a thing to gain
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:31 PM
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Emotional vulnerability is great as long as she knows that you’re also still masculine Vulnerability is necessary for connection. Connection is necessary for love. But vulnerability doesn’t mean neediness. Many men got rejected for vulnerability because they expressed it in a way that showed that they needed something. Needed acceptance. Needed approval. Be vulnerable. Be transparent. But also be the guy that will stand up for what he believes in, will assertively ho after what he wants, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:52 AM
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You don’t shoot your shot with 10s because you don’t think you can get 10s Those 4’s think they can It’s still the same thing bro. If you thought you could get 10s you’d be going for 10s. It is human nature to try and do the best you think you can. Also, abandon the apps dude. They suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:19 PM
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Everybody is going to try to do the very best for themselves. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:04 PM
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She is on her second marriage and very overweight now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:44 PM
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Agreed. Focus on expanding your social circle without expectation for dates. Once you have a strong social circle, it’s easy to meet people irl
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:36 AM
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I think anybody should intervene when anybody else is in trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:14 AM
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Right, but that means you have no problem with other forms of discrimination then, correct? If I am on a bus and see a Muslim, I need to discriminate against him so that he doesn’t blow up the bus, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:41 AM
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I see. I still think you are justifying discrimination. Let me be clear - your claims are correct. Men as a whole are much more likely to be dangerous. But my point from my previous post is, IMO, also relevant. Being more likely to be harmed by a certain group of people doesn’t mean that all or even most of those people will cause you harm. But stereotyping and discrimination can cause harm to innocent people. It’s like telling a flight attendant that they need to kick an Arabic guy off of a pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:26 AM
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I must be misunderstanding your point. Can you elaborate or re-explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:17 AM
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Got you. So just making sure - what you’re saying is that it is perfectly okay for me to discriminate against black men if I had a negative experience against them, right? So if, say, a black man is walking down the street in my neighborhood, I should just call the cops, right? And if I’m walking and I see a black man, I should cross the street? Come on…you can’t be seriously justifying this kind of discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:34 AM
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Defending/protecting somebody is generally healthy masculinity. Picking fights as the aggressor is toxic. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:20 AM
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Picking physical fights is toxic masculine. Picking emotional fights/excessive drama is toxic feminine Women can have toxic masculine traits, too. It’s just much less common…but both genders should have some healthy masculine and feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:09 AM
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I am a blue pill feminist, but I disagree. If I am robbed by a black guy, and I choose to hate all black people because of that one experience, I am still a racist. My reasons for being racist are irrelevant when labeling me here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:39 PM
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This some “who hurt you bro?” Level shit here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 01:18 AM
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People don’t understand what toxic masculinity is and what healthy masculinity is. Healthy masculinity is protective and stoic and strong and assertive. Toxic is refusal to show any emotion, always picking fights, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 08:17 PM
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I don’t know why you’re so angry. Plenty of dudes get mad pussy without being anywhere close to the level of an international sex symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:08 PM
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What an absurd comparison. You don’t need to be a movie star and international sex symbol to be attractive bro. Or anywhere close to that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:17 PM
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“There is no progressive liberal society where there are adequate birth rates” The problem is that you’re using correlation to equal causation. All of these liberal societies are also wealthy societies. Countries in poverty and second world countries have better birth rates. Is it the liberalism or the wealth? Or another factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:14 PM
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This. Women love sex. It’s so wild that so many dudes think otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 11:58 PM
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<image> Healthy vs unhealthy masculine and feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:57 PM
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The biggest red flag somebody can have is…checks notes…having friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:30 PM
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I’m actually blue pill, but also strongly believe in self improvement. EVERYBODY can get a good looking ripped body unless they have some kind of serious genetic condition. EVERYBODY can work up to a well paying job. All I’m seeing from your post is excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 01:24 PM
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This is you looking for a reason to fail. Not all men are going to improve their appearance. Just by improving your appearance, you are in the top %
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:00 AM
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Want it but don’t need it is always the mindset I’ve tried to adopt
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:35 PM
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The less pressure angle is interesting. As a man, what can I do to make the women in my life feel less pressure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:49 PM
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Men and women both murder for different reasons. Men’s homicides arent as bad because their reasons are silly. Know why this argument falls flat? Because the reasoning doesn’t matter. The outcome in both cases is still the same for the victim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:22 AM
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I wouldn’t care at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:44 PM
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Yes it does. If you’re super charming and funny and a go-getter dude who assertively goes for what he wants, you can get relationships and hookups with hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:58 PM
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Does adapting/evolving have to be those things? Could it not just be…idk…become more attractive to women? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:47 PM
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It would make me feel insecure a little bit, but I’d have a discussion and hopefully be dating someone who could have a mature discussion about it and provide some clarity. There are reasons why somebody could shift what they enjoy, and as long as those reasons weren’t making me feel like I’m less attractive or sexy to them than previous partners, I could accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:53 PM
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I think the premise of “socialize more nerd” is spot on, but I the finance vs tech bro stereotype is bizarre lol. There are nerdy accountants and traders and there are social/charismatic coders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:55 AM
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I agree with the title’s premise. In fact, I think that a lot of this hyper-awareness leads to overthinking which then leads to self-fulfilling prophecies. Men are hyper logical by nature. Intelligent men combine that logic with over fucking analyzing everything. Which ends up causing them to shoot themselves in the foot because they never are present and just enjoying themselves being normal fucking dudes. I’m telling you right now that if you’re a normal, we’ll adjusted, social dude who stays …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:39 PM
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Worrying about it will probably make you more unattractive than the actual lack of relationships themselves. Just be a cool and fun dude and some women will want you. If it comes up, just say that you were focusing on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:00 AM
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Just false man. Actual, true confidence is powerful as fuck. Fake confidence, aka pretending like you’re confident when you’re really not, is weak, and can easily be seen through.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:26 AM
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I wouldn’t say angry is the right word. More like bored. A man with no sense of passion or adventure or go-getter is boring to women. Drug dealers aren’t an ideal choice, but it’s a man who goes for what he wants. Also, women of value rarely give a fuck about criminals or addicts after age 23-25. The only women who stay with guys like that long term are super trashy chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:07 PM
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Short answer is no. I’m a late bloomer. My dating life is pretty great.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:04 PM
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I am in tech sales. Will prob make 200k this year. I connect much better with women who are career oriented. Especially if they’re in the same industry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:36 AM
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Would you consider the people who died in the Jonestown suicide to be victims? They voluntarily did it. But they were tricked by a cult leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:29 PM
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Holy moly this is some black pill shit right here. It makes me so sad that people just exist believing all of this to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:48 AM
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Go with the passive income
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:36 AM
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Ah yes, a single tweet from a random person being used to represent the views of an entire population. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:49 PM
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No one is telling you that if you’re lonely you’re a bad person or have toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:50 PM
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I don’t think poems were ever the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:17 PM
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“I hang up. If you’re trying to get money from me, I owe you nothing” Now replace “money” with “sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:16 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:16 PM
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1 - work on becoming a better option. Get fit. Dress well, stylish haircut, etc. improve social skills, improve social circle, etc. 2 - focus on warm leads. By expanding your social circle and doing more sociable things, you’ll be able to organically meet women a lot easier
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:15 PM
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Part of the mindset you have to adopt when being in sales - if somebody is horribly rude to you when you did nothing wrong, there is something inherently wrong with them. They are hurt. They are upset. They are shit humans. Don’t take it personally. You get to leave that persons existence forever - but they’re still stuck with themselves, living in their own misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:03 PM
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First of all, I don’t think that the majority of rejections are screaming and attacking. I don’t think it’s even 5% of them, and usually when it is, it’s because the guy is persistent and won’t take no for an answer. But nobody is obligated to listen to a sales pitch even if the product is really beneficial to them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:08 PM
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There’s a good chance that some of the telemarketing calls you get actually sell something of real value to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:06 PM
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This is kind of extreme. But I would agree that there are women you shouldn’t hit on and should absolutely read the room. Any situation where it could be dangerous, for example (if she’s alone at night, in an elevator, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:05 PM
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There are a ton of factors that play into the birth decline. Gender issues isn’t even in the top 3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:21 PM
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The articles the cite ARE peer reviewed. They’re just summarizing actual academic studies. It DOES mean that one should cross examine the peer reviewed studies before forming a conclusive opinion, but most of the time, the studies are going to back up the articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:26 PM
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I’m 34. I wouldn’t call a dude my age a pedo for liking a 19 year old. I would call him immature
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:24 PM
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I’m not a woman if that’s what you’re implying. I’m a dude who doesn’t give a fuck about being rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:51 AM
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You feel like approaching a woman’s risk/reward ratio is the equivalent of having a 50% chance of dying every time you drive? That’s a fair comparison to you? The worst case scenario is a person you’ll never see again is mean to you in front of other people you’ll never see again. That’s hardly a risk. It’s actually not a big deal at all unless your ego is so fragile that the thought of anybody thinking you’ve failed causes an existential crisis for you. The more likely bad case scenario is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:08 PM
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That’s just something you have to get over man. Rejection isnt a big deal. Getting rejected in front of other people is t a big deal. It only is if you make it a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:01 PM
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I’m a man. Not a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:59 PM
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I disagree. If you are extremely charismatic and charming, life is easy mode. This includes attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:16 PM
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It’s always your fault. I’m not saying that to be mean - it’s the necessary mindset for success at anything. There are so many variables that can improve. Your charisma and charm. Your looks and image. Your fitness. Your opening line. The way you say your opening line. How you transition into normal conversation. Approaching at a time that feels safe to them. 1000+ other things I haven’t even mentioned. There’s no possible way you’ve accounted for all of these things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:15 PM
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My dude, you are lookin for reasons to fail. You could get t-boned by a drunk driver tomorrow and become a quadrapalegic. That doesn’t stop you from driving. Life is risk. Life is risk management. If you date, you’re GOING to get hurt. That’s a fact. But not dating is also painful. Being lonely is painful. Feeling inadequate is painful. Choose your pain. Own your choice and be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:11 PM
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“Because all of those are skill based activities” Exactly. Social skills are skill based activities. It’s in the name. Social SKILLS. If you have really good social skills and healthy EI, it’s not that hard to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:09 PM
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My guess is it was your mindset. You were needy and results-dependent. Nothing else matters if you’re needy and results-dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:05 PM
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Well first of all, I definitely agree that cold approaching is not anywhere close to the best way to go. Warm approaching/meeting through social circle is by far the best way to go and it’s not even close. Social circle > cold approaching > stabbing yourself in the eye > online dating But I do believe that it can work for you if you get good enough at it. It’s a skill. It’s a tough skill to develop and the effort is typically not worth it compared to just working on developing your social circle…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:04 PM
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Woah that comparison went way over your head. You could replace the video game analogy with “building a Lego set” or “bench pressing your body weight” or really anything challenging that takes practice and time and experience to improve at
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:01 PM
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The potential risk: somebody says mean things to you The potential reward: you end up meeting the love of your life or end up having sex That actually seems like an incredible risk/reward ratio to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:58 AM
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I saw what it said. I also wouldn’t give a fuck and would approach anyway. Women want relationships and sec just as much as men do. They also experience overly aggressive men, often 30-40 years older than them, catcalling them and following them home and making them feel unsafe. I recommend doing some approaches with the mindset that your goal is to get politely rejected. Literally go up to women and say “hi, I think you’re cute, what’s your name” and when they reject you, politely say “no worri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:57 AM
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Bro those posters are just rejections. You’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:51 AM
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If “10-15 dudes on Reddit did it” is enough of a sample size for you to form a conclusion view of how all men behave, you need to go take a statistics or research methodology class
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:47 AM
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👆100% All of these RP guys talking about all of these “be more of a man” things but are so goddam sensitive to rejection that they let a few rejections completely shape their entire identity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:46 AM
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This is a horrible mindset. If all of them are rejecting you, it 100% is you. The fact that you won’t even consider that it’s you even though you’re the constant variable here is such a losing, ego-driven mindset. There’s something (or many things) that need to be improved on your end. Your looks. Your fitness. Your charm. Your approach. Your conversation skills. Your masculine energy. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:43 AM
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Bro I can tell you right now that you are massively over analyzing this. If you approach a girl and gently and kindly say”hey you’re cute, what’s you’re name” and she says “I’m not interested” and you say “no worries have a good day” you’ll never be vilified or criminally charged. Women want guys who are overly persistent and aggressive and don’t respect boundaries to fuck off. If you can be a decent person and still do it, you’ll be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:41 AM
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If you always are willing to gracefully take no for an answer and respect her boundaries, it’s extremely unlikely that shell do anything that will permanently damage your reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:37 AM
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I love that quote but it’s totally not the correct mindset here. If you’re fighting a hard boss in a video game, do you quit if you can’t beat it? Or do you keep trying until you figure it out? You get better at social skills over time. You improve by forcing yourself to be social, observing what does and doesn’t work, etc. That means you have ti feel rejection sometimes. Which sucks, but it’s a necessary evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:36 AM
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What’s the risk that you claim is so high?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:34 AM
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Lol what does your assessment have to do with your income or your retirement plan? Don’t believe you btw. Nobody can eat Cheetos all day and not leave the house and be physically fit. Maybe very extremely lucky genetic outliers, but even then, by their late 20s the lack of nutrition is going to look bad on their skin and hair
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:48 AM
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Just because you see them playing video games a lot doesn’t mean it’s all they do. I game. I also have a full time job, go to the gym, hang out with friends, and do jiu jitsu 3x/week.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:18 AM
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You must be like 18. Anybody older than like 23 has to hit the gym and eat decent or they get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:17 AM
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Kids don’t make sense when life is as expensive as it is. The baby boomer generation complete ruined this country with their greed. Then you factor in the social issues where people just want to stay inside and not socialize…it’s a true recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:48 AM
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I’m a black belt in BJJ and I feel specifically attacked 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:49 PM
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I literally haven’t once said anything about your life. Literally quote where I said that you are any specific way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:36 PM
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I never said any of that. Looks like you’re projecting insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:30 PM
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Lol no they won’t my dude. The key is having a healthy sense of masculinity behind it. If you’re a man who makes decisions and stands up for himself and is generally stoic and leads etc, you need to also balance that out with vulnerability in order to connect. If you lack healthy masculinity as a base, most vulnerability will come in the form of neediness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 12:41 PM
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Nobody is saying looks don’t matter at all. An obese guy is an extreme level of unattractive and laziness. But you can absolutely be below average but dress well, have charisma, be a good flirter, be in good shape, etc, and get girls
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 12:40 AM
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I do agree that not caring what other people think is a good thing and will generally be seen as attractive. I don’t agree that showing vulnerability makes you unattractive. Being needy does, and dudes often confuse the two
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 12:33 AM
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Crying and being a mess isn’t the only way to be vulnerable and I don’t get why it’s equated as such. Just sharing how you’re feeling in the present is vulnerability. Any time you’re giving somebody the option to judge you for your true, authentic self, you’re being vulnerable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:28 PM
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Yesterday. I have no issues with vulnerability and recognize the importance of it in establishing connection
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:27 PM
1

I think men care about looks more than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 12:24 PM
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No. I’m a male. Much more blue pill than red. I’m not attracted to really obese people. I’ll never be mean or hateful and I’ll always be willing to be friends with them. But I’m not sexually attracted to that body type, so it’s a hard no
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:21 AM
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I think everybody should just date on the standards they want to date on
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:05 AM
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Your entire argument stems from the very incorrect notion that attraction is a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:58 AM
1

What’s Twox?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:57 AM
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5-10 But it doesn’t matter in this case because nobody is asking
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:42 AM
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Referencing a priveleged billionaire as if anything about her represents normal life is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:22 PM
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When men say that, they’re also not the least attractive man that she’s still attracted to. They’re not attractive at all. They’re dudes with zero social circle who do nothing but play video games all day. Women aren’t chad chasing like you’re saying they are. Maybe some are, but most women are like most men in the sense that they just want somebody they’re attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:20 PM
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That doesn’t mean online dating is your only option. Expand your social circle and become friends with people. Date from your friends group. It doesn’t have to be cold approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:13 PM
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Yeah I agree with your premise. I’m a guy, and I’d prefer to meet women doing things I enjoy because then I know there’s a common thread that we both enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:12 PM
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I think I’ve been asked my height once on online dating sites
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:08 PM
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Men: women need to lower their standards Also men: I don’t want to be settled for
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:01 PM
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Better is subjective, but based on your perspective, I believe you just don’t really have much of a social circle. Or you live in a really shitty town. Man, if you just work on expanding your social circle, it’s very easy to get access to attractive women. And be trusted by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:00 PM
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Stop trying to logic my dude. It’s fear. Fear is an emotion. It doesn’t matter how rape works. If it’s a fear, it’s a real issue in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:59 AM
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The fuck…why do you think all men are sexually attracted to teens? I don’t want to fuck a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:18 PM
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Sexual attraction works different for women than it does for men. This is something dudes really need to understand. It just works differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:24 PM
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Im a guy and I absolutely do not give a fuck about how many dudes she was with before me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:23 PM
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Yes, it absolutely matters. It doesn’t mean the other stuff doesn’t matter too, and it will matter more for some women and less for others. But having a strong image shows confidence and self respect, which leads to a great first impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:04 PM
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0 fucks given my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:45 PM
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They aren’t the same but are caused by each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:48 PM
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You actually don’t have to spend money in bars. I go out to bars with friends and don’t drink all the time. There are also other things to do. I have a golden doodle. There are events called “doodle romps” where a bunch of people with doodles being their dogs to the dog park to play together. I’ve made tons of friends doing that. I’m also in an adult kickball league.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:09 PM
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I do think friendship is the other side of loneliness, but it actually is true that men foster fewer friendships than women. A lot of it is just the way society has evolved. Video games, door dash, online dating…many men just feel like they don’t need to socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:12 PM
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I’d argue that loneliness and lack of romantic love and sex are kinda the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:03 PM
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Let me translate that for you. “Women go for men they find most attractive” It’s no different than average men wanting really hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:39 PM
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You’re viewing it as too transactional man. If you so t want to pay, dont. Men pay because it’s tradition and nothing more. It doesn’t mean you’re paying for their time and company. Sometimes I pay for friends lunch when we go out. Not because I am trying to coax them into going out…it’s just classy sometimes to take one check instead of two. If you go into a date so worried about “what’s in it for me, what am I getting for my money vs what is she getting” you’re going to give off weird vibes. J…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:00 PM
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Do they orgasm as much as straight men though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:58 AM
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That’s not an internet buzz word lol. I majored in psych and have taken many research methodology courses. I know what I’m talking about bro. We are talking about causation, and correlation =\= causation is the entire point. Your studies say that promiscuity is correlated with things like cheating or other bad behavior. But they don’t prove that promiscuity causes that bad behavior. There is absolutely no sociologist or psychologist out there that would accept correlational studies as definitive…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:44 AM
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You sound all smart with your paragraphs and big words but literally any research methodology or any scientist or engineer anywhere will tell you that it is literally 101 that you can’t draw conclusions from a correlative study. Did you know that ice cream sales is highly correlated with the number of people who drown? That’s right. The more ice cream gets sold, the more drownings happen in that area. But are ice cream sales the CAUSE of those drownings? Or are there other variables affecting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:01 AM
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There are numerous studies that are only correlative. This is 101 my friend - correlation doesn’t equal causation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:02 PM
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I’m a guy and also feel the way you do, but unfortunately there are a lot of guys who are either insecure or judgmental (or usually both) that just do judge women on their sexual histories. Red Pill men are so weird. They want a girl who has had very little sex and shown no sign of having a strong sex drive, but then when they marry that girl and she doesn’t want to have a lot of sex in their relationship, they are shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:18 PM
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I’m not attacking you my guy I’m just asking. You should answer @nangkwak51 question. You don’t have to get all defensive and condescending…but the fact that you’re taking that tone actually does make me believe you less Edit: it’d also help if you can link some to a thread with some of said pics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:52 PM
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Receipts don’t mean that what you’re saying is true. Im not a hater. Do what you want. I’m genuinely wondering how you KNOW. I don’t understand how a receipt for something is proof of your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:07 AM
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Have you been to any of these countries and seen all of this your own two eyes? Like how do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:14 AM
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This. Porn has made many men that could have turned out okay into losers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:33 PM
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I don’t hate on any passport bros for doing that if that’s what they want to do. But I also think they’re probably going to be disappointed when they go somewhere and realize that these girls don’t want them any more than girls in the US do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:12 PM
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It’s because they want instant gratification. They want a gf. Go out and zero in on only finding a gf without working on the other aspects of yourself that normally would need to be worked on in order to get a gf
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:10 PM
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Gee I wonder what people did before online dating existed Go create a social circle. Expand it. Do activities that are fun to you. I live in a pretty small city. < 120k people. I quit online dating about 4 months ago, started building a social circle. Took me about a month or two, but dating has never been better for me. I genuinely can’t believe I ever did it any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:34 PM
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If y’all stop only looking to online dating as the metric of measurement, you’d realize dating isn’t nearly as bad as it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:58 PM
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Well, I think if you really have the mindset that no is perfectly okay, you actually do come off as less creepy. Your body language and vocal tone will reflect your level of ease in the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:50 PM
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Taking no for an answer. Asking for boundaries, respecting boundaries. In approaches, never doing it in a scenario where a woman is alone at night. Always gracefully taking no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:02 PM
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Most men’s sexual skills peak in their 30s and 40s. They’re better at sensuality, foreplay, taking it slow, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:06 AM
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No. Im asking if having girls pining over you like you’re a rock star is the expectation you have
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:58 AM
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I disagree. I think beards and muscles are the things that sit on top of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:03 PM
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Yes. Make friends with hot girls. Liken be actual friends with them. They will 100% help you get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:47 PM
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I typed “simping” and it got autocorrected to “dumping”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:46 PM
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I have two thoughts on that. On one hand, I do think becoming a more positive person will definitely give you more options. On the other hand, I think being true to yourself and focusing on your passions is an important part of the polarization process. But re you passionate about those things? Or are they just vessels for you to feel like you’re smarter than other people? To be clear - they can be either. You have to be honest with yourself. In general, you show that you’re passionate by workin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:14 PM
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Frustration at women. At the world for you not having what you wanted. I believe that at one point, you genuinely wanted love and companionship. You felt like you weren’t able to get that, felt heartbreak and rejection, your ego created the new cognition that you don’t even want those things to protect itself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:43 PM
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I just mean that I believe your perception is skewed by frustration and loneliness. I don’t mean that in a mean way. But I strongly disagree with your hypothesis and think you see things that way due to years of negative feelings associated with women and dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:40 PM
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Or…you could just be a person that does interesting things for reasons other than the desire to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:39 PM
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Two different approaches, both of them stem from the same concept - don’t ask a bunch of super basic questions on the first date. Shit like “where are you from” and “what do you do” and “how many siblings do you have” is boring. 1 - Be playful. Lightly tease her about stuff. Make super exaggerated plans with her “omg we’re going on a rocket ship right now and flying on the moon. You want to land the craft or get feet on the ground first?”. 2 - Depth. deep questions beyond superficial shit. Where…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:36 PM
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This is what years of social isolation and loneliness does to a dude. I feel sad for you OP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 01:30 PM
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You think you need fandoms of girls dumping for you like you’re a rock star, as if that’s the only measurement of being attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:40 AM
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This idea that muscles and beards = masculine is part of the problem. Masculinity is going for what the fuck you want in your life. It’s assertively pursuing the lifestyle that you desire. These k-pop stars are doing exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:54 AM
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You don’t understand my point. There’s always going to be struggle. No human being in the world has 0 problems. How you handle and manage your problems is the difference between being a winner and being a loser. “I was treated as less than human, so I’m going to cry about how unfair the world is” is way different than “I was treated as less than human. I’ll prove to them and myself that I am worthy” Attitude is latitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:07 PM
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Blue pill man here - very much a feminist. There is such a thing as healthy masculinity. Stepping up and taking charge and being in control of your destiny is one of the pillars of healthy masculinity. Ironically, the guy I was talking to’s mindset of diverting responsibility away from himself is more unattractive than whatever he thinks is making him unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:05 PM
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Blue pill guy - I kind of agree. It’s like saying “because some black people commit crimes, I need to be cautious of all of them”. That is an incredibly racist way to view the world. But I also understand that most women have had some kind of traumatic experience with a man. Not respecting boundaries, not taking no for an answer, stalking, threatening, blowing up, being violent, etc. When you have prior trauma, it affects the way you behave towards people. As men, it’s our job to be aware of tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:03 PM
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Somewhere among the line, you decided to absolve yourself of responsibility for your own outcome. There’s no winning here. It’s easier for you to think it’s impossible to overcome than to just man up and get shit done. Best of luck to you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:27 AM
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I’m a dude. We know if we’re interested very quickly. If she’s hot, we are interested in finding out more. You should be flirting immediately if you are attracted to a chick. You can assess her personality on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 11:45 PM
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It’s not the struggle itself. It’s the reaction to the struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:58 PM
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“Was he sleeping with lots of people to fill a hole?” Lol the joke wrote itself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:53 PM
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If you’re pretending to be friends with somebody and lose interest the moment they dont have feelings, you’re being manipulative. I feel like a lot of dudes don’t understand the concept of friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:49 PM
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Yes. A lot of guys get confused about this. As soon as you realize you’re attracted, make a move or express interest. Date from your social circle or friends group. Don’t be friends with a girl for three years pretending like you’re not interested and then suddenly confess your unending and eternal love to them out of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:47 PM
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Kinda. It likely means you’re co-dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:15 PM
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Neediness is the most unattractive quality a man can possess, and a massive amount of dudes are needy as fuck. Even dudes who think they aren’t needy are actually needy as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:53 PM
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I’m friends with a really hot girl who lives across the street. Yesterday she picked me up from the airport. Today, I took her puppy out while she was at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:20 PM
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This is prob written by a dude lol Girls can usually tell if a guy just wants to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:08 PM
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Your sisters are assholes, and I’m really sorry that you had to deal with that. Genuinely mean it, I can’t imagine what kind of effect that had on your sense of self worth in the dating field. But your sample size of two shitty humans is not enough to definitively say that you know what women like. First of all, get off dating apps. They’re cancer. Second of all, as weird as this sounds, drop the need to find a girl for the time being. Chase passion. Develop a social circle. Go to therapy for em…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:49 PM
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What? There are plenty of circumstances where women don’t accept responsibility for their own outcomes. It’s human instinct to have our ego try and defer responsibility. Regardless of gender. But here you are - deflecting this and making it about women. Forget what she’s doing or he’s doing. Or what anybody else is doing. Stop making this convo a debate to be won or lost. That’s not what this is about. If you want your desired outcome, completely own your ability to control it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:57 AM
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My dude, if your personality was attractive and all of the other things were true, you’d have no problem getting girls. Are you fun? Exciting? Are you good at flirting? Do you know how to lead and embody your masculinity? Do you have interesting hobbies that make you intriguing to women? Are you funny? Are you good at banter? By good personality, I mean attractive personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:54 AM
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Everybody ends up budging on their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:51 AM
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No. It’s not because you’re ugly. It’s because your personality absolutely sucks. I don’t even know you but I know for a fact that it sucks because if it didn’t suck girls would like you. The good news is that you can change your shitty personality traits
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:54 AM
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Because then they’d have to accept responsibility for their own outcome. If they can blame it on something they can’t control, they don’t have to accept responsibility. Not accepting responsibility is a characteristic of a weak man. Ironically, it’s this very weakness that makes them much more unattractive than their actual physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:51 AM
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No it’s definitely true. The guy who got top tier maintained amazing workout habits and career dicscipline for years. Paul isn’t going to magically have that discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:46 AM
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But that’s all dating benefits, not hookup benefits. Nobody is buying an apartment with a FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:48 PM
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Yes. It can. More porn than masturbation IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:18 PM
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In one case, you’ve made a commmitment. In the other case, you haven’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:37 PM
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I think if a woman has a good career, it’s badass. Also, I’m into wealth building. I have a really good sales gig and am actively trying to build wealth through index funds and side hustles. If she also had a good job, it could potentially turbo charge my goals, which is pretty rad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:00 PM
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Yes. Absolutely. It takes a lot of patience and commitment to growth. But men are lucky in that looks are absolutely not the most important part of what makes women attracted to us
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:03 PM
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Paul would quickly fall back into averagedom. Being top tier is much more about discipline and what you’ve developed internally than your genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:26 PM
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Best way to think about it - you know that song “girls just wanna have fun” Bro, it’s sooo true. If you are a fun person, you will drown in pussy. Be fun. Flirting is fun. Planning exciting dates is fun. Making them laugh is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:49 PM
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It’s not that doing household chores makes you attractive. It’s that ignoring household chores makes you unattractive. A relationship is a partnership, not a transaction. It’s two people building a life together. In order to successfully build a life, there are many things that the couple must stay on top of. Gotta bring in money. Gotta keep the house tidy. Gotta actually pay the bills. Gotta maintain your social lives. Gotta plan dates. Gotta nail down babysitter logistics. If the man is bringi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:43 PM
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Yes. Absolutely. Those sparks are fragile, but you can feel a flirty vibe very quickly. If you want to improve your success with women, I highly suggest getting good at flirting and calibrating your flirting. It’s an intuitive skill that is learned through trial and error, but I can tell you from first-hand experience it can make average looking guys seem very very attractive. Source: am average looking guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:39 PM
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My dude, if you truly believe that being physically attractive is the thing that determines whether a first date goes well or not for a man, you keep doing you. But you dead wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:41 AM
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I love how you say this (without actually countering the point with a better example) and literally the other comment is a woman saying it’s great advice. This sub is wild
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:31 AM
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Ignore the troll and keep doing you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:22 AM
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It’s not about how you look. It’s about a flirty vibe. If there’s no spark, it means your conversation was probably super platonic and bland Open up more about who you really are. What your real interests are. Ask her deep questions about how she feels about shit. Not “what do you do where are you from” type of shit. Flirt more. Playful teasing is a great way to flirt, just make sure its calibrated and you’re not hurting anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:21 AM
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OP, don’t let this person get to you. Develop charisma, work out, dress fashionably, and over time almost any guy can become magnetic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:06 AM
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Sorry you went through that. I actually feel like I’m educated. I read a fuck ton. Just didn’t finish college because I got a good job and knew my career path didn’t require it. I’ll take what you said to heart and make sure anybody I’m with knows that I’m not insecure about my lack of degree and don’t have any kind of resentment over it. I welcome any partner I have to achieve any and all goals she desires. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:46 AM
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I absolutely respect that boundary and am in no way trying to change your mind. But I’m curious - why is that such a hard dealbreaker for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 11:21 PM
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So question - I don’t have a degree. But I have a tech sales job in corporate and will probably make 200k this year and genuinely love my work. If you met me and we also had a great connection, would the lack of degree be a dealbreaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:29 PM
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If you’re not in NY or LA/SF, two people can split bills making way less than 100k.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:26 PM
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You can be blue collar and make solid money. Welders do pretty well for example
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:46 PM
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Probably kind of both, but leaning towards women failing. I actually think it’s more difficult to be an attractive man, but more women are willing to put in the work to be attractive than men. Soooo many dudes basically do nothing but veg out on video games all day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:04 PM
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I recommend the books Open Her by Karen Brody and Models by Mark Manson. It’s much more important to live the life you want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:58 AM
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I mean look my dude. If you take a self defeated attitude, you get what you get 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:02 PM
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They’re in your favor if you’re the leader of the group thoigh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:26 PM
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I am blue pill and very much a feminist. If other blue pill people attack OP here, they’re trash. OP is being vulnerable and expressing how he feels. He deserves empathy for that, and more men need to do what OP is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:37 PM
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You’d be surprised my dude. Looks absolutely help. But I’ve found that it’s honestly more about image than actual aesthetic looks. A girl I’m friends with really blew my mind talking about this. We were talking about people we found attractive and why. She mentioned a guy who was in good shape, and said that when she saw him, she though “wow he is so disciplined and cares about what he puts into his body. I bet he could manhandle me in bed and protect me” Which is so different than our perspecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:29 PM
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First of all, I’m sorry you’re feeling so defeated. I used to be horrible with girls. High school was brutal, and I understand the lonely feeling. I don’t think looks are everything. I think having a healthy masculine attitude is everything. I recommend the book “Open Her” by Karen Brody and the book “Models” by Mark Manson. Those two books set me on a course that dramatically changed my dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:34 PM
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I completely understand what you’re saying. It is a catch-22 that perpetuates itself. But if these incels can just truly let go of having sex for some time, they actually increase their chances of having it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:00 PM
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“Nobody lives their entire life based on the desire to get laid” I think if you read all of the replies here, you’ll see that there are dudes who literally do. They feel like nothing is worth doing unless it helps them get laid. They are who im referring to. I think it’s absolutely okay to want sex. I think it’s okay to do things to increase your odds of that. I think it’s okay for that to be part of your motivation. I think if you do things more based out of passion, it shows in your demeanor, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:59 PM
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No, I actually consider myself to be very much blue pill. I believe that obsessing over getting laid instead of enjoying life actually makes it much more difficult to get laid. If your sole motivation for doing something is “I want pussy” I think it’s harder to get that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:50 PM
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I do agree that there needs to be balance. You can’t just be some sweaty fat dude playing WoW. However, there are PLENTY of hot ass girls that play WoW. You can be passionate about a game and get laid. Stream. Make content. Become a leader in the community. Host local social groups for wow people. Become the king of a specific social group, and you will bang the hottest girls in that group. Emits absolutely true that there are fewer hot girls in those groups, but by being congruent and accomplis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:44 PM
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I’m sure that happens sometimes too. Red flags definitely get ignored, but if you actually psychoanalyze the wife bearers themselves, I think I’m pretty accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:39 PM
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I’m not saying you 100% are a liar, but I just doubt the 116 women number. There’s something about being so specific that makes it so unbelievable to me. I’ve gotten a lot of lays over my life. I absolutely have no idea what that specific number is, and honestly don’t even think I could come up with the exact number if I tried. It would take a really bizarre obsession with your n count to actually keep track of that…idk. Seems odd to me I don’t think improving yourself to improve your career is …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:38 PM
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That’s fair that there needs to be a balance. And it’s also fair to say that not all hobbies are equal. You need to stay fit, dress well, and develop social skills 100%. But those same neck beards actually could get laid if they maintained a balance there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:34 PM
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Before I developed a sex drive, I played football, swam, and played tag with friends. I was super competitive and loved doing cool shit. It truly is a you thing my dude. Not all men are purely motivated by sex. To be honest, once you’ve actually had lots of sex, you realize that it’s overrated, and basing your whole life around it would be torturous. Sex is awesome,don’t get me wrong, but you massively overrate it if you’re willing to be miserable just to get it. Also, making your entire life mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:32 PM
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Sometimes, I think TRP takes the whole evolutionary biology too seriously. We do have primal drives. We also have analytical brains capable of self awareness and consideration of the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:29 PM
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I get what you’re saying, but our culture doesn’t condition us to believe that our worth as a man is based on how much cake you can get. You have been told since middle school subconsciously that your ability to get laid is directly correlated with your value as a human. If you can’t get laid, you’re worthless. You have internalized that and let it embody your entire identity. The moment you detach yourself from this inherent need to get pussy, and start just enjoying life (by enjoying life, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:28 PM
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It’s a catch 22, but basically, it comes down to this. Women are attracted to masculine men who embody HEALTHY masculinity but also care for and protect the people in their lives. Going for what you want and being passionate about it is one of the most attractively masculine traits you can have. Pretending to go for what you want in order to get something else isn’t. The mindset is going after things you TRULY desire. If you want to be the best Overwatch player in the world, go for it. That does…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:24 PM
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“Both of those are tools to get laid” They can be, but also, having cool shit is awesome even if you’re not getting laid. You ever ridden a jet ski? That shit is dope as fuck. If the only reason you’d ever enjoy a jet ski is because of the hope of getting laid, you are a soulless void of a human, and I pity you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:19 PM
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I disagree. I think that for a lot of people, improvement itself is very satisfying. There’s a book called Flow, written by Mihalay C. He hypothesizes that humans are actually most happy when they’re working towards a goal. It’s not even the accomplishment itself, but the active participation in the challenge of accomplishing it. That’s why billionaires work so hard to keep making more billions. Or why Tom Brady kept trying to win more Super Bowl rings, even after breaking the record for most ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:16 PM
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That’s just false. Your perception of your self is self worth. How much you value yourself is highly correlated with how much others will value you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:11 PM
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I’m not confused. Maybe I’m not articulating well, but I actually have never felt more confident about how to successfully attract women. This is coming from somebody who spent over a decade doing TRP/PUA stuff, and then actual may turned more Blue Pilled as a got a better understanding of how it all actually works. I recommend the book “Flow” by Mihalay C to better distinguish the difference between happiness and pleasure. It’s probably the best self improvement book I’ve ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:11 PM
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Nah - having the desire for sex is absolutely fine. You should have it, and you should be proud of it. Living your entire life based on your desire to get laid is needy by nature. Even if you did get laid, if you had real, genuine passion for those things instead, you’d have done even better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:07 PM
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“Some people have no gratification for actual achievement” Yes, that’s called being an unattractive man. Being a guy that just has 0 drive to achieve anything is basically the equivalent of being a 400 lb fat chick with a buzz cut
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:06 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:05 PM
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It’s because those things aren’t actually what attract women. They’re things that represent the attitude/mindset that make up an attractive man. This is the entire point of this thread. Develop the right mindset, and you’ll naturally want to do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:21 AM
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It’s the root of the point I’m making. When your entire perception of yourself is based on how many women you can pull, and every motivating factor in your life is pulling more women, I believe it bleeds through in your speech, your body language, etc. I see it all the time. I actually believe even “douchebags” that get women don’t only care about getting laid. They enjoy the high energy levels of parties, they enjoy getting drunk, etc. Getting laid is not their sole mission for going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:53 PM
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I’m sure it makes a difference. I also believe it makes an even bigger difference if you are passionate about fitness vs just wanting to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:51 PM
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Just wanted to say - I’m a BJJ black belt. Congrats on getting down to a better weight class. Hope you kick ass in your competitions. I do think the reasons for doing it makes a difference though. I think a lot of guys are so hyper focused on getting laid that nothing else matters. When your entire perception of self worth is based on getting laid, it bleeds through everything you say and do. People can just tell. Doesn’t mean you never get laid, especially if you get super fit. But people can j…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:50 PM
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Great example! And it’s funny because I am interested in going to a partner dancing class this fall when I stop traveling I want to do it purely because I want to be able to bust out cool moves at weddings. Idgaf about getting laid! Doesn’t mean it won’t happen if I just click with somebody, but success in these classes will have absolutely nothing to do with whether I get laid or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:46 PM
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I think it’s fine to be motivated to have a partner. I also think that if that’s all your life is about, you come off as thirsty. Instead of trying to act non-thirsty, learning to get gratification from other things just makes you actually not thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:44 PM
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It’s wild that somebody could be standing in front of the pyramids or on the top of Mount Everest and be thinking “this sucks because I’m not having sex”. Or riding a jet ski or skydiving and be like “wow my dick isn’t even getting sucked right now what’s the point of this?” Like you really just enjoy nothing unless it’s having sex or leading to sex? Playing sports? Having really good conversation with your friends? I actually suspect you get a lot of gratification from winning debates. And peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:43 PM
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I actually do agree with you. I’m definitely not saying it’s easy to do - especially if you’re sex deprived and have let our culture convince you that your worth as a man is based on your ability to get laid. But if you can truly manage to take time to just invest in your actual interests and find real gratification and self worth in those interests (I’m talking growth interests, not pleasure interests like video games), it’s actually amazing how much of a difference it makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:40 PM
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Bro, talk to any successful musician or athlete. They LOVE the fact that it gets them laid. But they do it because they love it. I absolutely believe that people can see through you. Body language and micro expressions create feelings towards people. When your BL and micro expressions are incongruent with the words you’re saying, it makes people distrusting of you. Wife beaters get girls because either they really mean to be a good person but have serious issues and turn into a piece of shit whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:38 PM
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“Take sex out of the equation and all other worldly desires go with it” This is just false. You ever ridden a rollercoaster? That shit is fun. If you chopped my dick off, I’d still enjoy roller coasters. I’d also enjoy BJJ, good movies, water skiing, good conversation, etc. all of my hobbies would still be enjoyable to me. This “nothing matters but sex” mentality most likely stems from a lack of getting sex for so long that you’ve allowed it to dictate your entire sense of self esteem and self w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:35 PM
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I completely agree, but also I don’t think it invalidates my point. If that athletic guy was improving for the sake of improving, he’d be doing much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:33 PM
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I’m blue pill but I totally agree with this. However - I’d argue that lying about your intentions just to get something from somebody is morally wrong. This goes both ways. Lying about wanting a relationship just so that you can get sex is wrong. Lying about wanting sex just so that you can get a free meal is also wrong. But anybody is allowed to change their mind at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:17 PM
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This. I’m a guy, but when dudes refer to it as “maxxing” you can just tell they are socially inept. It’s just the way they’re viewing things that leads them to use that term. Just improve yourself. And do it for reasons other than just getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:11 PM
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Most women don’t cum from penetration. If she said you made her cum in 4 minutes, there’s probably a >95% chance that she was faking it and just wanted you to finish. Sorry bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:08 PM
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The mental gymnastics are so hilarious here. “Because you are on Reddit, your opinion is different than everybody who isn’t on Reddit” has to be my favorite fallacy I’ve ever come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:05 PM
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This is so just incorrect on so many levels lol holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:02 PM
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It’s absolutely worth bedroom maxxing. No questions asked. Learn how to lead/dominate while simultaneously making her feel safe. Learn how to eat pussy like a champ. Learn different kinds of sex - tantric, sensual, emotional, aggressive, dominant, etc, and learn how to lead her into various experiences. It takes time and experience, but if you are truly incredible leading her through an incredible experience, you will come to find that she has a much higher sex drive than you do and will be insa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:50 PM
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First of all, there are actually a fuck ton of hot chicks that play DnD. That actually can be a gold mine. BJJ is definitely more of a sausage fest, but the girls that do train are usually very fit. Plus, learning to be a badass doesn’t exactly hurt your chances with girls outside of that hobby. Also, not every activity you do has to be done just to get pussy. Having outside hobbies is attractive. But finding some social groups and becoming the leader in them is the best way to get laid consiste…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:49 PM
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Yeah BJJ is mostly dudes. But I’m a black belt who has trained for 18 years. If I meet girls who are into BJJ, they’re typically very interested because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:51 AM
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Nope. As someone who has taken the conventional TRP/PUA advice and who is now doing it this way, polarizing your social circles and dating scene is 100000000000x better and it’s not even fucking close. There are hot girls in every scene. Be the leader of a specific scene, and you’ll get access to the hottest girls in that group. I’m not a fratty party bro. I don’t bang sorority girls. But I can get hot earthy yoga chicks. And I’m pretty fucking happy with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:51 AM
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If you understand how to portray healthy masculine energy, you can also do so-called “beta” stuff and be way more attractive to women than dudes who study “game”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:21 PM
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A fictional book about wizards is a perfect example of how dating works in the real world God I love this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:34 PM
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This question is taking the wrong viewpoint. It depends on the room. Stop trying to be universally attractive. Be the king of the circle you care about. I would crush it if it was a conscious community/meditative circle. Or a bunch of BJJ practitioners. I’d be close to 0 at an NRA convention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:20 PM
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I’d say it’s more absurd. I think there’s still a difference since money is more of a female -> male attraction key than vice versa. But worse than height, particularly in a more modernized society
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:42 PM
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One is basic beauty standards specific to a gender, the other is based on having the same moral compass, which has absolutely nothing to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:34 PM
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What an absurd comparison lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:09 PM
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Two things. 1 - you may just be dating women with serious emotional trauma 2 - be a stronger person. You can still be kind. But set and enforce boundaries. Don’t let people walk all over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 03:01 PM
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Focus on your passion and building something. Doesn’t have to be financial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:59 AM
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Oh look, religious people justifying a point with religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 08:07 PM
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It’s so weird for dudes to view relationships so transactionally Like the concept of “I really like this person they’re basically my best friend who I also sleep with and share my life with” is so far outside of comprehension for people I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:28 PM
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What is AF/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:25 PM
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I actually feel very qualified to comment here, and my answer will be counterintuitive First of all, both genders can and should display healthy masculinity and healthy femininity. Male-identifying people should have a stronger masculine balance and female-identifying people should have a stronger feminine balance. Healthy masculine traits are: -Standing up for what you believe in -Stoicism -Protective of others -Holding space for people -Leadership -Slow presence -Charisma -Going for what you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:09 PM
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I suppose if you want to make it all about semantics. It’s pretty typical to describe somebody as either emotional or logical. This is kinda what I mean here. I’m order to attract somebody, you have to make them feel something. Feelings are incredibly complex, and even if there’s a logical explanation, science is nowhere near the point of fully understanding it logically. I mean, we can measure certain chemical releases, but it’s impossible to predict how to make somebody feel a certain emotion …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:30 PM
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I understand the comparison you’re making, but “emotional” is basically by definition the opposite of logical
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:12 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:49 PM
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I think the very phrase “what women do and don’t find attractive” is the wrong mindset because every individual is different. I was a psych major, but the biggest (and very fair) criticism of psych is that there are simply too many variables to ever 100% confidently conclude anything outside of neuroscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:48 PM
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Yeah I think I didn’t explain very well, but your point may help me clarify my point. It’s very counter-intuitive, but I actually believe that fixating too hard on these observable patterns actually causes way more harm than good. I think that overthinking is the most devastating mistake you can make in dating. Even if you’re technically “right” about everything, the more you analyze and think, the less natural and present you become. The less present you are, the less confident you appear. Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:46 PM
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I agree with you. But as weird as it sounds, I also believe that fixating on that cockblocks you way harder than being short This is where my argument that it’s not logical comes in. Short dudes smash hot chicks all the time. And if you logically analyze what they’re doing different, it’s that they’re not logically analyzing what they’re doing. They’re just existing and vining and having fun
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:41 PM
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That’s interesting because I feel that TRP is generally very analytical
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:40 PM
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Why would women not want men to study and improve themselves? Isn’t it in women’s best interest for more men to be attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:39 PM
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I think you’re right, but I think it’s from men over analyzing their experiences with women. Often based on a limited sample size that strongly emotionally impacted them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:38 PM
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I’d actually argue that emotions are completely illlogical
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:37 PM
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Yes, they can be analyzed, but I also think doing so actively works against you because emotion is extremely illogical, and emotion is the most important part of connection and attraction. I’m saying this from experience. YEARS of reading book after book trying to understand how to attract women. Years of trying to project confident body language and say the right things and wait to text and all of TRP/PUA stuff. You know what’s actually working for me? Therapy. Authentic relating groups. Medita…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:34 PM
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I just disagree. I think at a high level, there are concepts that can be logical on the surface. Be more confident, dress better, get in better shape, be more assertive, etc. But even within those things, many of them can start to become less logical. Confidence, for example, is much more complicated than it first seems because your emotions have a massive influence on your confidence. You can logically analyze how a confident person acts and try to mimic it. But you can’t “feel” confident just …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:58 PM
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You know, it’s not so much that I mean it as an insult as I mean “you are talking about something as if you had experience and expertise in it when it’s obvious that you don’t”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 07:17 PM
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Wanna know how I can tell OP is a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:19 PM
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RP is basically a spin-off of old-school Mystery Method PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 09:29 PM
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I’ve never bartended in my life and could get a bartending job tomorrow. The unemployment rate in 1950 was 4.3%. Today, it’s 3.4% Like there’s really not much of a difference. The variance you’ll see year over year is very similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:17 PM
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I think it depends on where you’re at in life. College freshman? Broke is fine. In your 30s? Broke is unacceptable. There are exceptions to this - if you’re somebody that just truly wants to be a musician or live a van life or something, finding somebody who shares that passion is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:14 PM
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As someone who leans very blue pill on most things, this is a very fair analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:11 PM
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Labor markets aren’t flooded lol. In fact, outside of skilled positions in tech and marketing/sales, many low paying labor positions are having trouble hiring people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:11 PM
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Stability can create excitement and adventure. Having the money to travel and go to shows and concerts and do fun things makes you very exciting. Having money but sticking with the same boring routine until you die is a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 12:41 PM
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Sounds like you’re not very confident in your ability to be a fun and interesting person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:02 PM
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She’s not rejecting yo while liking you. She doesn’t like you until she sees how you handle rejection. I get why you feel that way, but here’s some perspective. Women have fears about men not taking no for an answer. They have men all of the time blow up at them or insult them for saying no. They have friends who’ve told men no while things were getting hot and heavy, and then those men just didn’t take no for an answer. You showing that you’re a good enough guy to gracefully take no is what act…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:00 PM
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Then say no. But you’re going to miss out on a LOT of opportunity in the name of your hurt ego
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:21 PM
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This approach stems from the wrong mindset. Spend money to do fun things and eat food that you like. It helps you determine if she is a match for you. Don’t spend money just because you want sex. That makes it too transactional and will probably decrease the odds that you have sec
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:21 PM
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It’s less about the time and more about what you’re thinking as you stare. If you’re thinking “god I want to fuck her” your body language and general vibe will come off as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:38 AM
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I actually haven’t personally witnessed a woman get catcalled. I totally acknowledge that it’s a big problem, but for whatever reason, I’ve never seen it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:37 AM
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It’s so weird to me how this sub will have this take but will also say “women don’t really have strong sex drives and don’t really feel sexual pleasure”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:28 AM
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Exactly. I think women are so used to dudes flipping out or acting toxic when they hear no, that just being a decent guy when you hear no instantly makes you more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 01:57 AM
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It’s a lot more about how you feel internally. I know this is counterintuitive and difficult to quantify, but it really is true. I’ve been rejected by people I am now friends with, who are a part of a social group, and it’s just nbd. I accepted no gracefully and always essentially said “nbd I hope we can still be friends” and meant it. Funny enough, my response to rejection has actually gotten me laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:28 PM
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I think you’d be surprised at how little rejection matters if you approach with the attitude that you’ll gracefully take no and won’t make things awkward or unconfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:41 PM
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It’s possible that there are some genetic components that increase the probability one direction vs the other, but most likely this one is nurture over nature
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:40 PM
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Sort of, but I think it’s also different. Women’s sex drives are there. They suppress it because of these fears. If you show them that they have nothing to fear, they will stop suppressing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:01 PM
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Found the real hero
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:40 PM
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It’s actually not a caricature. He basically just described the type of dudes women actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:40 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with cold approaching as long as you keep it light and take no for an answer without getting butthurt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:59 PM
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This take is so dumb. If the only reason why you “stay on top of your game” is because you want to get laid, you are putting eaaaaay too much validation into sex. And ironically, that very mindset is preventing you from getting laid. Like if you can’t get laid all of a sudden you don’t want to stay in shape or make a lot of money? This is how I can tell dudes aren’t getting laid. Sex is so important to you that your whole life revolves around it. Your entire sense of self esteem and self worth i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:19 PM
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That’s a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:19 PM
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Yeah, your intelligence is probably your downfall. Not for being intelligent, but for being so analytical and assuming that intelligence can answer a question that needs to be answered by intuition. The fact that you’re arguing about body processes as an indication of how attraction works is exactly the problem. You can’t logic your way into girls pants bro. Attraction is emotional, highly illogical, and has way too much variance to be measured the way you measure something in physics or chemist…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:02 PM
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Yes. If I inject x amount of a hormone into a 240 lb man, it’s going to have a much different effect than if I inject it into a 75 lb kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:57 PM
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I’d say that’s fair. But the OP also implies (at least, the way I interpreted it) that because women have lower testosterone levels, they don’t like sex as much as men. Single women who don’t have boyfriends still masturbate all the time. The drive to feel sexual pleasure exists and is incredibly powerful for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:55 PM
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My dude listen. I say this a lot here. The biggest problem dudes have on this sub is you are trying to hard to make this logical and scientific. Y’all analyze your way into celibacy. Chicks love sex. Love it. They have fantasies. They initiate. They get frustrated when their men don’t put out. They masturbate, in some cases multiple times a day. The sex toy industry is a 34 billion dollar industry that caters almost exclusively to women. Women fucking love sex and quite often are bigger horndogs…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:26 PM
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But they also are way smaller. A woman who is 120 lbs with 30% of the muscle density of a man who is 220 pounds can have less testosterone and still have the same sex drive. Honestly, it’s crazy that dudes think women don’t have sex drives. It’s so obvious y’all have never had good sex or probably even sex at all. I’m not saying this to be mean - first hand experience from anybody who gets laid regularly can tell you that women quite often have very high sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:01 PM
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But that’s the thing. The analysis of the barrier IS the barrier
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:56 PM
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Man y’all really overanalyze this shit. This kind of over analyzing everything is the actual barrier to you getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 02:21 AM
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Probably not for me, but I have nothing against people who do it and are happy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 02:18 AM
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Me too. If you get the chance, periodically check in and see if one pops up thats close by. It changed my life and helped me really understand a lot about what I’m getting wrong with dating. Best of luck with your therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 02:16 AM
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When the basis of your argument is comparing humans to gorillas…lol I mean, we’re not gorillas. Gorillas throw feces at each other when they get upset. They have the intelligence of like a 5 year old human. Why is this such a core part of your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 02:15 AM
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I recommend checking out ISTA. Their website is ista.life. They do week-long meditative retreats that focus on healing wounds created by social and sexual trauma. You’ll gain a LOT of perspective on the subjects we’re talking about. And you’ll probably get laid on the retreat. It’s expensive, but absolutely worth every penny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:21 AM
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I know this is probably troll, but it’s not that far off from FDS lol. Both extremes on both sides are toxic af
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:02 PM
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Sex is like oxygen. It’s only a big deal if you’re not getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:21 PM
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Sure. But you’re wrong. 0 condescending undertone in what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:45 PM
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Nope. Meant every word. Hurt people hurt people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:19 PM
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I’m a guy. I’m not assuming the worst. I don’t think you’re evil or a psychopath. I think hurt people hurt people, and you’re hurting inside. I think your longing for love and affection has made you bitter, and you see the world through a dark lens because of it. And for that, I’m sorry. I know being in that headspace can feel awful, and I’m genuinely sorry you’re there. If you’d like to talk, feel free to dm me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:49 AM
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You shouldn’t be nice because you want pussy. The fact that you’re implying that being nice sucks because it means you don’t get laid from it is exactly why you’re not actually a nice person. Which means that you don’t have the frame of reference you think you have. You’ve never been rejected for your niceness because you’ve never actually been njce
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:57 PM
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“Being an interesting guy does” That’s the part you’re leaving out. You’re probably not an interesting person. I’m not saying this to be mean. You can become interesting. You just aren’t right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:56 PM
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Being a nice guy doesn’t get you a relationship. Being an interesting guy does. Being a nice guy who is also interesting helps you keep a relationship But it boils down to being a genuinely nice person and not just doing nice things because you want something
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:40 PM
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Dude, bald can be in. Don’t be balding. Shave your head and get some muscle and dress nice. Think Vin Diesel
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:32 PM
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I deleted dating apps a while back. It was the best decision of my life. I made friends with some girls across the street. Some of them are actually really attractive, but I’ve kept it platonic. We go out and do fun stuff all the time. On weekends, we go out, and I meet their friends. Some of whom are very attractive. I’ve hooked up with two girls from their friend group. I also started a game night at a brewery through a local Facebook group. The game night itself is a blast, and I have fun whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:19 PM
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I don’t think they mean looks don’t matter at all. They mean that being in good shape, dressing nice, and practicing good hygiene can often be enough, especially for men. It’s more about image than looks a lot of the time Being good looking absolutely helps thoigh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:15 PM
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I’d be fine with that as long as she did her fair share of work at home. A relationship is a partnership. If we’re both working, we split the domestic chores. If I’m the only one working, she should be doing the vast majority of them and vice versa if she’s working
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:14 PM
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I guess this is only anecdotal, but I don’t really expect to get laid on the first date, and I pay for first dates even if I have no interest in seeing her again. It’s just a cultural norm for me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:10 PM
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This struggle doesn’t apply though because women don’t care about casual sex the way men do. We resent them for having access to something that they don’t really care about having access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:08 PM
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It definitely can just happen. Sometimes you’re attracted to somebody but don’t intend to have sex with them. You’re at a party and things just escalate without either person really trying to make it happen. Other times it’s planned
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:04 PM
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