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But what gives you the right to make that decision for someone else? The same right that makes eye tests mandatory for drivers, or school mandatory for children, or inoculation mandatory, or … The good of society, the good of individuals who society can so easily care for, the good of a healthy and truthful society. That is what gives us the right to make things mandatory for our fellow citizens. I can't help but feel that anyone who is strongly opposed to this has something to hide from their p…
/r/AntiFeminists17/10/22 09:34 PM
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What's wrong with letting people decide for themselves? In short, domestic abuse. It is not at all unusual for a man to be under the thumb of his mate, at least to the point where he doesn't want to rock the boat and risk upsetting her by implying she might have cheated on him. Women who have cheated will be very strongly against him dong a paternity test (even in those legislative areas where he is allowed to) and are likely to put full pressure on him, even if in just the subtle manner of "I t…
/r/AntiFeminists17/10/22 09:28 PM
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> I saw a stat that stated that more than 17% of tests for couples who obtained paternity testing in the US were negative Keep in mind, that's not a random sampling of parents. In medical genetic trials, the expected figure for misnaming your genetic father is 1 in 7, or around 14%. Bear in mind that these trials are where the volunteers are asked for the name of their genetic parents and the people so named can turn down participation in the trial without any explanation.
/r/AntiFeminists17/10/22 09:19 PM
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You don't even have to tell the mom if you don't want to. That very much depends on the legislative area you are in. In many places, the mother must be informed and in many others, she is effectively given a veto - so cheating mothers never allow a test.
/r/AntiFeminists17/10/22 09:15 PM
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Already, in the UK, if women were to pay the same amount of income tax each day as men, they would stop paying tax around 17 May each year. And someone wants to disadvantage men even more?!?
/r/MensRights08/10/22 10:20 PM
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I support equal work for equal pay.
/r/MensRights08/10/22 10:16 PM
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most child abusers are women I don't think we can say that too much. It needs repeating again and again. most child abusers are women
/r/MensRights07/10/22 05:38 PM
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This group needs to learn, that you won’t win them over with “showing” them the truth. They don’t care. Truth and lies are just tools to them. They have no moral grounding. This is so true and applies to many categories wanting to fight. Unfortunately, it often takes new activists fighting for a healthy society a few years to realise that using facts is not, by itself, enough even for people in authority. Emotional woke ranting wins out over dry and accurate data. The accuracy is needed for a mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:04 PM
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When I was doing the data processing for a charity that was doing research on genetic disease, the standard expectation of the panel of experts was that one in seven people who agreed to take part would misname their genetic father. On processing survey data, it did indeed turn out that 14% of subjects were wrong about who their genetic father was - and this is only for those cases where both people named as genetic parents volunteered to also take part in the survey. Interestingly, about 1 in 2…
/r/MensRights04/10/22 06:55 PM
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before they can assert 2+2=5 With the recent trend to make even mathematics more to do with how you feel about something than the accuracy of an answer, I suspect real result is more like: 2+2="I feel this is an oppressive question asked by colonialists who want to make everything distinct and binary instead of understanding the spectrum of emotion that can be held by minorities."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 04:09 PM
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But are the number of push ups any more or less applicable to a woman than a man of the same age? Are women the equal of men or not? If not, why is it not right to demand equal work for equal pay?
/r/MensRights04/10/22 03:36 PM
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I mean, if a nation had 300 million people and an unlimited military budget, would you rather have an army consisting of 100M men or 100M men + 50M women? I have been brought up in a society where equality was rammed down my throat. Women are equal; women can do all that a man can do; women deserve to be treated equally. It was always fairly clear that what was really meant was that women should be given all the advantages of men without taking on any of the disadvantages but at least the preten…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 08:42 PM
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You could say the same about age But are the number of push ups (which you say are "not really all that applicable" any more or less applicable to a woman than a man of the same age? Age at least tends to bring wisdom and extra skills to compensate for any lack of physical prowess. We know that feminists say that women are non-violent and peaceful, so what do women bring extra to military units that make up for having lower standards?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 08:31 PM
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This is what the USSR found during WW2 (the soviet army had a fairly high proportion of women fighting the Nazis - about 5% of front line fighters were women). They changed tactic to keeping women in entirely separate battalions or brigades wherever feasible, so that men and women were not fighting side by side. It was also easier to rate the expected ability of troops that way, too.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 08:23 PM
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And equity doesn't measure anything. As soon as the global men's movement started to point out that women in most nations had more than equality, the global feminists came up with this equity stuff. First it was equality of opportunity, then equality of outcome, now it is outright female supremacy under the heading of 'equity'.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:24 PM
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For most jobs, it's not really all that applicable how many push ups you can do anyways. Is it any more or less applicable to a woman than a man?
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:21 PM
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In general across Western countries, you are fairly safe in saying that men under 40 earn less than women in that age range. This can be distorted by including women who are in university, i.e. not working, so be careful of that when challenged with contrary statistics. Funny how nobody seems to care about the 'wage gap' for the younger section of society, eh?
/r/MensRights02/10/22 04:26 PM
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In fairness, I wouldn't call someone who tries to talk with feminists a fool. Sometimes, the only way to really be sure for yourself is to try something. It's not like it's (directly) fatal to attempt to talk to feminists: it's just a painful waste of time. I do accept that believing strangers on the internet can be hard, so I encourage people to campaign for a men's issue and then know feminism from that experience, since they are almost certain to meet feminist resistance on anything connected…
/r/MensRights02/10/22 04:16 PM
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It might not happen in our lifetimes but just as we benefit from those who campaigned before us (thank goodness or things would be a even worse for men today), we must campaign. If the next generation are the main beneficiaries, that will still be something for us to be proud of.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 08:34 PM
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Absolutely. If equality before the law was fixed for the public as well as for the government, a great many of men's human rights would be sorted.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 08:32 PM
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Of course: it is down to personal choice. When you accept that commuting is a part of the effort of earning, men's average hourly income (regardless of pay) is barely above women's anyway.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 08:12 PM
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This is the real answer. Can you imagine the stupidity of telling women that since midwives are women, men aren't going to do anything to help reduce maternal morbidity? Or telling people under 6' (183 cm) that since they are victims of someone who is also under 6', their problems are of their own making?
/r/MensRights01/10/22 07:19 PM
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It makes you laugh, if you don't cry. There is outrage that women (who earn the same amount for the same job) earn about 15% less than men, yet not a peep that those who earn less spend vastly more than those who earn more. Out of earning more and spending more, which would we all rather be doing?
/r/MensRights01/10/22 07:11 PM
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When someone wants all men subjugated, if not dead, what is your middle ground? You don't mind half of men being liquidated, so long as the other half get to live in peace? There is no middle ground with an ideology that hates you. There was no middle ground for black people with the KKK; there was no middle ground for Jews with the Nazis; there is no middle ground with men or boys with feminism.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 07:04 PM
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/r/MensRights01/10/22 07:01 PM
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I dont know if I should be ok with what she's doing or not. There is no 'should' in this. Some men would be ok with it, many would not: either way it doesn't act as a guide to the way you feel. What is necessary is being firm. I'm guessing you don't like confrontation but there are times when you have to make yourself uncomfortable by doing one thing, to stop the discomfort if you do nothing. Set the boundary, firmly. Tell her to stop molesting you: use the strongest possible language for what y…
/r/MenSupportMen01/10/22 06:49 PM
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Nobody intervened. They gave their own opinion. Why would you only want one opinion, particularly on the explanation of some terminology?
/r/MensRights01/10/22 04:51 PM
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No one cares about men's issues. I care. I hope all the non-feminists reading this sub care. I think there are plenty who care about men's issues and we should not dissuade others from doing so by normalising a lack of care.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 02:24 PM
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The missing context is men=bad, women=good. If you can't clearly show that context, then your information may be accurate but it is unwanted.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 09:56 PM
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On reading the post here, my first thought was "The Guardian reporting in favour of men?!" Then I realised it's from 2011. Yeah, ten years ago the feminist takeover there was far from complete. Will Storr only gets his slushy pieces published there these days. There are quite a lot of studies of men raped in war/battlefield/the military in general. Here is one academic study but an internet search brings up plenty of uncomfortable reading.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:32 PM
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There are several studies that have shown the vast majority of battle-related sexual violence is committed against men. Feminists will still pick up on the amount of it happening and quote it all as an attack on women.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:18 PM
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Easy. She knows that all heterosexual sex is rape (that's what her feminist course told her). Since only 3% of women report being raped, that therefore means that 97% of women aren't reporting it. See? You just have to think like a feminist.
/r/AntiFeminists27/09/22 10:00 PM
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So if a couple goes out for a nice dinner to celebrate their anniversary and have some wine, then go home and have some fun, it's rape. And it is only rape of the woman, even if the man had more to drink. Because they have already decided that all heterosexual sex is rape (MacKinnon, Dworkin, Roberts, and other feminists). It's like that report with the terrible conclusion that 33% of women on a U.S. Navy ship had been raped .. when there was one woman who claimed to be raped but couldn't prove …
/r/AntiFeminists27/09/22 09:53 PM
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But sure, just don’t believe it cuz it’s never happened to you. Is that really any more stupid than believing it happens to everyone because it happened to you? Most men do not rape. If that is not your experience, you seriously need to change your 'social' circle.
/r/AntiFeminists27/09/22 09:44 PM
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That wouldn't even matter now. She has established her credentials for all the feminists needing therapy: they'll be flocking to her, licence or not. But who's going to cancel her licence? Her bosses, who are probably cheering her on?
/r/AntiFeminists27/09/22 09:41 PM
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I often note that when feminists point the finger, it turns out that the finger should have been pointing in a mirror.
/r/AntiFeminists27/09/22 09:38 PM
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And then people wonder why men don't seek professional 'help' for their mental illnesses. Many men really are too scared of 'therapists' like this. Most therapists, in my experience, are not this bad but like any other graduate from the feminist universities over the past decades, they have been indoctrinated with feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists27/09/22 09:36 PM
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This 'therapist' certainly seems to be the kind of feminist who will chant "all men are rapists and that's all they are". So, yes, according to her, I imagine only lesbian sex can be consensual.
/r/AntiFeminists27/09/22 09:29 PM
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Ah, that big bogeyman "toxic masculinity". Something never seen or heard but always on a feminist's brainwashed mind these days. But here is a real summary of the situation for men, which you would be able to agree with if you had ever done anything for mental health other than blame the victim: Feminism, including the specific selection of gender roles which feminism promotes, creates an environment where men feel like they aren’t allowed to seek help for their mental health. Then when people t…
/r/MensRights27/09/22 06:00 PM
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I think you’d have to be pretty naive to think abortion and religion are not tied together. It’s like saying going to church isn’t a religious issue because some Christian’s do and some don’t. That's not the same thing at all. Non-Christians do not tend to go to church. Plenty of non-Christians believe in the human rights of the child, or the inviolability of life, or the values of a healthy society, and oppose abortion.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 05:07 PM
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You (or those you support in the feminist movement) introduce laws and policies that leave increasing numbers of men with an impression that they have no way out, no future .. and they kill themselves. Then they oppose any attempt to get more help for those men. Feminists don't generally kill men directly. They kill plenty indirectly, though.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 05:02 PM
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Feminists fear mongering over nothing? That's new! /s
/r/MensRights27/09/22 04:56 PM
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The picking and choosing of equality baffles me. It only baffles you because you think 'equality' means being treated the same. Equality doesn't mean that at all. It means giving people (mostly women) whatever advantages they want but if there is an unfair advantage already (e.g. prison population, education, healthcare..), explaining that away by showing how women need special care and attention.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 01:12 PM
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Yes, they were caught but tried to deny that it happened. Now the evidence has become too obvious and they have to finally admit their bigotry.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 12:57 PM
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There's a female politician I talk to occasionally. She got into politics a long time back when she had to compete on fairly even terms with men (she still says men have a natural advantage with their deep voice but admits women have an advantage just by being feminine). The sex quotas of her political party really pisses her off. She's gone from a respected colleague/adversary who was on equal terms with anyone else elected, to a suspected quota fill, disregarded on first sight and too often ig…
/r/MensRights27/09/22 12:55 PM
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Absolutely. Get out but do it carefully and safely. Dating a feminist is dangerous ground. The fact that they didn't declare their mental illness up-front is also a red flag warning.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 09:36 PM
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Oh no, you underestimate the power and control that feminists crave and are being given. Feminism is about far worse things than merely opposing MRAs. They want the world: a communist world, a global government, with themselves in charge. The frightening thing is, they could be horribly close to getting it.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:43 PM
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the iq of an onion That's a lovely phrase. I even found a website which will tell you what the IQ of various onions is! Oh, and I agree with you, though I'm not as risky as having any feminist as a friend - they will always turn on you sooner or later.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:34 PM
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The intent of feminism can never really be said to be about fairness, though doubtless a sizeable number of people who called themselves feminists wanted it to be about fairness. Right from its inception in the mid 19th century, feminism was not about being fair, or balanced, or equal. Initially, it wasn't about female supremacy, either; it was largely about hitting out at men. That your perception of feminism has changed over time does not mean that feminism has changed over time. It means that…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:30 PM
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How dare you want to restrict feminists so they can't be their typical violent selves, you peace-loving chauvinistic pig! An article from 2020: Feminist violence around International Women’s Day
/r/MensRights26/09/22 07:17 PM
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she was abused by my dad so naturally she wanted men away from her Actually, that is not natural. It may be a conditioning in a feminist society but it is not normal, nor healthy. It is usual to go through grief and anger and that often will for a short time spill out onto other people, particularly those distinctly (if remotely) similar such as those of the sex, coming from the same country (if foreign) or having the same major interests (e.g. dogs, late night parties, walking). After a time, u…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:59 PM
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Many people who don’t want one for themselves don’t want the government getting involved… I'm still waiting for the source on this.. …80% of abortions are gotten for financial reasons and often it’s a mutual decision. ..and this. Nothing so far from you backing up your feminism.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 06:35 PM
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We can't acknowledge those advantages today and then say in the past when they didn't have them they weren't worse off. Yes we can. I'll start by asking "worse off than whom?" Worse off than the men who could be sent off to war? Worse off than men who could be imprisoned for a criminal act of their wife or children? Or worse off than women today, who do not have the time freedoms of yesteryear, who are continually polled in all feminist countries to be getting less and less happy with their live…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:23 PM
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It's easy to tell oppressor from oppressed: the oppressed are silenced in talking about their problems, while the oppressors get to talk all they want.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:12 PM
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Why are there several sites I can see on a simple internet search that say that women started to get the vote from 1931? Are they all wrong, or are you? Then more got the vote in 1934, then more in 1946 and more in 1968, then everyone when Portugal became a full democratic nation in 1974 or (76) and men got full suffrage, too. I fetched those dates from Wikipedia, which I know is not a reliable source but other sites also mention 1931 and later years.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:09 PM
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I think voting is important but you are right in that many women influenced the vote. It is anyway quite natural for men to think first of what their women and children need, then themselves. We see that today still, in that most policies are to favour women and few, if any, specifically favour men.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:03 PM
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Many women couldn't vote until very recently, as their countries lagged behind in social progress. I'm guessing that nobody has shown you the timescales for when men could vote in various countries? The USA is an outlier in this regard. In most countries, there was not male universal suffrage until around 900 to 120 years ago. Women often got the vote almost as soon as men did, if not at the same time. It is notable that one of the first things that male suffrage brought about was female suffrag…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:58 PM
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The lecture was actually really informative about how even down to the basic structure of traditional groups, women couldn't until the last 10 years, lead the trad groups. "Couldn't" or "didn't"? And which 'trad groups' are we talking about: things like scouting, which used to be a male-only institution with a female-only equivalent? Beware being indoctrinated in something believable but still without proof. Beware of having a few choice examples used as an example for all of society. …a lot of …
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:32 PM
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Your source for this wild claim (which is irrelevant to the post you replied to, which is nonsense)?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:23 PM
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Wera Hobhouse, the Liberal Democrat Party Spokesperson for Women and Equalities Wera Hobhouse, Liberal Democrat Party shadow minister for Women and Equalities. Not an actual minister but one who would be if they got into power. The speech she gave is typical of the Labour Party shadow minister for Women and Equalities, and of past Conservative ministers for Women and Equalities, including the minister who is now the UK's Prime Minister. As for the title being an oxymoron, I'm not sure. I think i…
/r/EverydayMisandry26/09/22 04:10 PM
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Four feminist groups made an appeal against the pension equality legislation (it was originally announced in the 90s) when it was finally enacted. The WASPI feminist group claim to be against pension age inequality but campaigned hard against pension age equality and are still doing so. The oldest(?) feminist group, the Fawcett Society, lobbied strongly against the equality measures, starting back in the late 1980s when the MRM and others started to get the issue raised and continuing today, aft…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:48 PM
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You're not allowed to be an incel, you're not allowed to be a MGTOW, you're only allowed to be a simpering twit (with a big bank balance and unending income).
/r/MensRights22/09/22 07:26 PM
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Don't feel too bad. Femicide law is an initiative being pushed by the United Nations and few if any countries are immune to pressure from them. Several countries now have such laws and more will be joining them.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 07:23 PM
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Quite right. Like this video talks about, killings and muggings in broad daylight in busy streets (one of the incidents is early morning, outside a nightclub). Not a single mention of anyone who went to help any of the male victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZycTex2\_nw
/r/MensRights22/09/22 07:17 PM
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Last time I spoke with Norah (I never knew her well) she was okay over her experience as a man. I think more than anything with that episode, what affected her long-term was having lied to people who offered such good and close friendship (she stayed friends with one of them). I don't think she ever quite squared away her feminist indoctrination with the truths that she uncovered. Overall, Norah was a good person and I don't think her death, many years after her year as a part-time man, had anyt…
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:58 PM
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I have never yet been invited to one of these secret patriarchy meetings. I know the rest of you men must be going to them and getting your unearned privileges — feminists say it is happening, so it must be true. So I think it's about time the rest of you men let me into the secret. Since I get blamed for having them, I think it is time I had my serving of unearned pleasures and social privileges. Let me in, you bastards and tell me how to join this wonderful patriarchy where we make women do ev…
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:49 PM
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> Then there is "dismantling patriarchy from the inside"... First you have to find the patriarchy! I suppose if enough women feminists suddenly become men, it wouldn't be too hard, as they would be the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:44 PM
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Ages ago, in the early days of the internet, I saw a compilation video of women walking in the middle of various battlefields, recorded (I presume) by war correspondents. It is a stark reminder of how relatively safe women are from violence.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:41 PM
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Maybe it’s their equivalent of us misplacing our socks? They’re just so conditioned to blame the patriarchy it’s the natural conclusion.. I love that. Now I finally know who to blame when a sock goes missing: it was some feminist woman what did it! :-) Oddly enough, the feminist women do at least tend to return the sock after a time. I usually come across it somewhere. Creepy how they plant things around my home, eh?
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:34 PM
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The problem is not just men, though doubtless is mostly is. There is a significant proportion of lesbians that is into sniffing stolen used women's underwear, too.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:27 PM
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Men going their own way are not involuntarily celibate. Not only do they often attract women (because many women are attracted to men who have clear goals and are not simps) but if they are celibate, it is not going to be an involuntary thing.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 06:16 PM
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You are incorrect in claiming that In England and Wales less than 1% of rape cases end in conviction Where there is enough evidence to believe in a chance of a conviction, the CPS will put forward a rape accusation to be prosecuted. Even when the evidence is very flimsy they will do this. So the reported rapes we can be sure of in any way are those prosecuted. Using the reliable William Collins' data (which only goes up to 2016): Year Prosecutions Convictions 2006/7 3264 1778 2007/8 3503 2021 20…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 01:23 PM
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Feminism never has been pro-male. At the best of times, it ignored men & children.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 11:33 AM
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I always find if funny when people talk about their concept of 'true feminism' when this doesn't match what feminist organisations do, it doesn't match most feminist books, it doesn't match what is taught in universities as feminism, and it doesn't match what the most vocal feminists activists are about. So why is their feminism, which is so unlike feminism in the real world, the 'true' feminism? It's like me saying a true dog has eight legs, lives in water and has sharp claws; honest, that's wh…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 11:31 AM
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entire purpose of feminism The preferencing of certain women is just a tactic, not a strategic goal. Already, more and more women are finding themselves made an enemy of by feminism. This will be increasing over the next decade.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 11:23 AM
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The men and women who oppose feminism are not doing so because they fear women being liberated. They oppose feminism because it is a socio-political movement with a hidden agenda which is intent on destroy society as we know it.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 11:21 AM
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Why has nobody mentioned so far the most obvious benefit of being a man? We get to attend our local Patriarchy Meetings, where we discuss how to subjugate women all the time and work out how to abuse them for our benefit. /s
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:55 PM
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I can walk at night on the street just fine, as long as I look broke. If you get it wrong looking broke, you will be attacked for being broken-down. Men of all classes, educations and incomes receive so much more violence than women. I think you have this part wrong.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:51 PM
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Definitely mental strength. It is one of the things that I've seen women who live as men comment about: as a man, they not only have to have a lot thicker skin but have to be tougher and more precise in their thinking generally.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:44 PM
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Being caring; Being able to think rationally (comparatively) and even coldly when called for (though I fell apart over my divorce); I wouldn't have such a nice beard if I weren't a man; Ability to think without being clouded by wildly swinging hormones.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:34 PM
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בחישוב המס של אשה תובא בחשבון ¹⁄₂ נקודת זיכוי Brilliant, thank you. Being able to more accurately quote the law and text is always helpful.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 10:41 PM
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I certainly do appreciate what you are saying and assure you that the same is worldwide, and while in at least most countries it applies more to men than women, the 'hidden discrimination' also applies to women. …constitution outlaws ALL forms of legislative discrimination. So it’s hard to pass outright discriminatory laws In Germany. Many countries have constitutions that ban discrimination. Many countries have also signed up to international agreements and treaties such as the UDHR, which ban …
/r/MensRights07/07/22 02:13 PM
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Thank you. I have entered the data for the IDF (wow, it's bad in all sorts of ways). I know they prefer to have links to laws so if you can find one, I'd be delighted. I have searched in English and come up with nothing. I hate the financial stuff, from a technical viewpoint as well as the amount of almost-hidden discrimination against men there is around the world. Technically, financial discrimination is rarely in primary legislation and the Database has only recently started collecting second…
/r/MensRights07/07/22 01:53 PM
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Coals Mines Act 1842 The article talks of a Coal Mines Act but I think what they must mean is the Mines and Collieries Act of 1842. Contrary to the article, multiple sources seem to be clear that it was both a matter of preventing the 'degradation' of women, and improving safety. (This government summation seems to be in agreement, too.) Of course, men were never given the same level of protection; ever. Even the MRSL article, having claimed that safety was not a concern, pointed out that there …
/r/MensRights07/07/22 01:00 PM
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Employment Act of 1989 Thank you. I hadn't realised that women were still protected from such work until that late. Since they had equal pay since 1970, it's good to see the legal restriction being removed, so that women can take their share of the damaging and dangerous jobs. In practice, they don't seem to have taken up that kind of work, but at least they could not use the law as an excuse for not doing their share of harmful work. Thank you.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 12:27 PM
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118 Ordnungswidrigkeitengesetz I've had a look at that and, as you say, it is gender neutral in the wording. The issue is one of public acceptability/legal precedence. I'm sorry but the Legal Discrimination Database only records primary and secondary legislation. It would be a nightmare to even attempt to record case law, let alone public opinion. That does, of course, apply regardless of who the discrimination affects. The Legal Discrimination Database started as a central repository for people…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 10:46 PM
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Oh, right, this is a conscription issue, is it? If you can point me to the law that creates the discrimination (prefer English but I can use Google Translate), I'd appreciate it so that I can put it in the Legal Discrimination Database.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 10:34 PM
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Thank you. I find it strange that Tennessee excludes adult educational centres from expectations of decency! I have noted that both men and women are differently discriminated against there. I note that it is only the nipple (not even the areola but that might be included if it came to court) that is at issue. Presumably, if a woman put a pasty on them, she could otherwise go topless. I've entered it on the Legal Discrimination Database but .. well, female nipples ARE different to men's. The Uta…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 10:30 PM
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You clearly support some MeToo movement entirely different to the one that has been causing massive world-wide problems for men. In fact, what you are talking about is so different than the main MeToo movement that politicians have been contact by, the media have reported on, and the men's movement have been fighting that I can't think why you call it 'MeToo' at all.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 09:41 PM
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So when feminists say that women are missing rights, you are saying they don't argue that there are no rights that women are missing? And you have the cheek to come here and call people 'pathetic worms'? Look in a mirror.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 09:21 PM
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Yeah, she must be talking about women, since she sounds like a feminist, whose go-to insult for men these days is calling us all incels. We can hardly be both incels and at the same time having all the sex we want, can we?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 09:17 PM
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Do you know what the main objections to mobilising in public for men's rights are? According to a recent post, they were (1) concern over losing their job (this is mostly the USA, one of the least free countries in the West, it seems); (2) complete media disinterest, at best, over reporting on men's events; (3) feminist infiltration and resistance, which happens every single time something like that is announced. Legal ways how men can get out of actually abusive situations are discussed. But mo…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 09:14 PM
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The sub is men's rights and you don't think a question asking about an imbalance of rights has any context? I can't help but think that if you could come up with a list of a dozen laws where men had rights which women didn't, you would be celebrating this thread. We know there are many rights which men are missing. It is quite proper to see if there is a balance in rights which women are missing. If there were (and there is, in some countries) then men's rights advocates would have something use…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 08:59 PM
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As late as 1989? Wow. I know that first girls, then women were barred from mining while boys were still permitted but I didn't know that had carried on for so long. Do you have any idea of the name of the law, please? 1989 was a busy year. Does anyone know if there are, or ever have been, any women mine workers in the UK since 1989?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 08:09 PM
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If you are so sure that women are "being mistreated" so badly as to bring up the topic here, the very least you could do is answer a simple question: Name single right men have that women don't? I mean, if women are as oppressed as you make out, this is simple, right? Women in general are not mistreated compared to men. I don't know about every country in the world but on the whole I don't think they ever have been. There always have been differences in the way men and women are treated and so o…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 08:03 PM
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Going outside topless Somewhere, I think you might be right. But where? I'm trying to track down a specific jurisdiction's law that says this. Often, people assume it is a limitation but it is just a social norm, not a limitation on rights. driving a car I don't think there is anywhere. There used to be one country and I know feminists will often come up with this one, but I know of nowhere this is a limitation on women that does not apply to men. voting Where? Can you state the country and law …
/r/MensRights06/07/22 07:07 PM
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Could you help me locate the specific law that stops you being outside topless, please? Preferably with an internet link to it for validation and reference, so that I can put it into the Legal Discrimination Database.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 06:49 PM
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Is there anywhere like that which does not also have men being expected, and even obligated by law, to do for their wife? Can you help me locate any law so that it can be put into the Legal Discrimination Database, please. In this case, it isn't important that there might be equal or greater balancing laws: the Database will record both sides. Any country, in any main language, will do.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 06:44 PM
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While the definition of what exactly is a 'right' can be debated, the question is no red herring but, I believe, a genuine attempt to find if there is anything. I have been writing to feminist organisations around the world, in three of the main languages, asking this question without any response. So far this thread has come up with something, though nobody has yet named an actual law that applies. It certainly helps to be able to say to people "There is no law that restricts a woman's right co…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 06:35 PM
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Most crimes are never solved. Often, that is because there are no witnesses. Nobody knows the sex of the criminal. How much of the statistics that men are convicted more than women is driven by the fact that men are chased and charged more than women? Nobody knows. Several years ago, I had a conversation with a retired cop who explained the facts of policing: when it comes to it, most police genuinely want to stop crime. They know that if they catch a male criminal, he is more likely to be charg…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 06:29 PM
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It often amazes me that those in the USA think they are in one of the most democratic countries, when they don't even have free and unencumbered voting for most men. Most countries have universal suffrage for all citizens over a certain age (or all except for criminals and others not classed by race, sex, religion, etc.). In the USA, there is only universal suffrage for women.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 06:04 PM
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What's IDF? I see you are being sarcastic but I don't get the reference.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:59 PM
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How is this a right men have that women don't?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:58 PM
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How is this a right men have that women don't?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:57 PM
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Well, can you name one? I help maintain the Legal Discrimination Database, so this isn't just an idle request. If you can name a country and a law which restricts women's rights (even if the same law also restricts men's rights in other areas, as many do) then it will find a place on the Database. Preferably, we like a link to the law but so long as we can use Google Translate on the site, to verify, it doesn't have to be in English.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:56 PM
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My gut reaction is that isn't a right that men have which women don't. But I do wonder. Women are so cossetted and cared for, if an abused woman wants to be left alone, CAN she be? There are women who suffer domestic abuse for years without attention but as soon as someone does pay attention, she doesn't get much chance to be ignored. I wonder if you really onto something. It's not a right as I would normally see it, more a social convention or habit. But can a woman who wants to be ignored, be …
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:50 PM
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The military is a good example of a job where women in some countries don't have access. However, in a growing number of the countries, they can blame feminism for that. More and more countries are ratifying the Istanbul Convention and one of the clauses of that is that the government will not put women into a position of danger. Since most military jobs are inherently dangerous, this precludes women from being admitted. Even policewomen and firewomen should expect to start losing their jobs, th…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:39 PM
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Yes but in fairness that wasn't entirely from being a man. She was also living a double life in that time. In some ways, that helped her because it meant she had relief from being a man but in some ways it piled on an extra dimension of mental ill-health. The accounts from women (old enough to have experienced being an adult female) who transgender to men are interesting. Consistent in their remarks are notes of things like nobody being helpful, always being expected to be achieving, society bei…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:32 PM
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It wasn't claimed that a woman could be charged with rape. Only that it was not legal. That is almost certainly correct.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:23 PM
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Certainly not all women. Many of the women I know who are in the MRM or in groups we ally to are vehemently against the rape of men.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:21 PM
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She didn't say a woman could be done for rape. She said it wasn't legal just because a woman did it. That is likely true. The other parts are that society rarely cares for males, even male children, who are hurt. And women get away with a great deal more, in almost all jurisdictions in the world, than men. So when you get a woman attacking a boy, everything is against him. At least for a man, he is more likely to have the option of being done for assault rather than being raped.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:19 PM
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It is true that women cannot usually be charged with rape but that doesn't make it legal to rape a boy. Usually, there are sexual assault laws or child abuse laws that would allow a woman to be prosecuted. That woman are very often NOT prosecuted anyway, still doesn't make it a woman's right to rape: it just means she gets the usual pussy pass and usually has to be worse than most men for her victim to see justice at all.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:13 PM
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I don't see how this answers the question of which rights men have that women don't. ​ the "bottom" 80% of all men… are largely invisible to [feminists]. Not invisible enough, for my liking. the various SCUM groups, Lingchi associations and other male-extermination cults all are happy to be aware of all men when it comes to wanting to #killallmen.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:07 PM
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Johnny Depp was not believed, had to spend millions to attempt to clear his own name, and is still not believed by those who push the MeToo agenda. Invoking this as an example only goes to prove that MeToo is misandric, narcisisstic and chauvinist. It is not gender neutral and I have never seen ANY promotion of it that was gender neutral. (It is also blindingly stupid and antithetical to the principle of justice that says someone is innocent until proven guilty, but that's another matter.)
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:57 PM
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I have been writing to feminist organisations around the world asking this question and have never even had that much of an answer!
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:51 PM
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Can you name any of the laws, please? I suspect you are right but need the specific law to enter it into the Legal Discrimination Database.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:49 PM
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Me too. In the UK both sexes can be completely naked so long as their nakedness is not for the purpose of shocking anyone.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:47 PM
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Can anyone point me to a specific law (statute or even secondary) which makes this so, please? I help to maintain the Legal Discrimination Database and would be happy to include the very first instance of a female-only legal discrimination. Any country, any language that Google can translate.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:46 PM
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There are plenty like them, in many countries. Try 'boy raped by woman must pay child support' in your favourite search engine.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:35 PM
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A controversial one, which we normally see in the opposite light because of the discrimination against men: Men have the 'right' to be seen to have deserved their job, and any promotion, based on merit. Women, in a growing number of cases, do not have the 'right' to this respect because there are so many special accommodations for them, being jumped ahead of the best person simply for being a woman (not that many people creating all-woman shortlists seem certain what a woman is).
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:22 PM
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Women really do not need to adopt the worst aspects of the worst men to feel liberated, or equal, or worthy. We often call them out for doing just that. Men really do not need to adopt the worst aspects of the worst women to feel liberated, or equal, or worthy. We can be better than that.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:07 PM
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These days, when a man must prove his innocence, a video & audio recording of her constant and ongoing consent is the best form of 'defence'.
/r/AntiFeminists05/07/22 09:19 PM
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I have a mass of research. Far more than most feminists outside of gender studies/feminism professors (who, if you read their books, make the objective of feminism clear). I also have around twenty years' experience in fighting for the rights of men & children. And I am used to meeting resistance from feminist organisations and individuals. Even on campaigns which benefit women, feminism fights against it if it does no comply with their narrow world view. So, since feminist organisations, femini…
/r/AntiFeminists05/07/22 09:03 PM
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You are right. Feminism stands for a lot more misandry and social destruction than just this. This is just one example of feminist campaigning against men.
/r/AntiFeminists05/07/22 08:28 PM
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And did you have this videotaped for evidence and get her to sign in triplicate each 120 seconds?
/r/AntiFeminists05/07/22 08:21 PM
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No and no. A contract is only as good as the ability to enforce its terms. For some peculiar reason, with marriage we have a law that defines the contract but an entirely separate law to get out of the contract: divorce. It is the divorce law that defines marriage. Increasingly, as society becomes more Marxist/feminist the trend is to allow divorce on any basis or no basis at all. That is when other laws kick in that determine the division of assets. These are almost always going to be in favour…
/r/AntiFeminists05/07/22 07:49 PM
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In the longer term, you may be right. I am happy to discuss this privately to help compile the next version of a think tank's strategy document. For now, most of the people we are talking with are still in support of 'equality' and they generally take this to mean that men and women should be treated equally, regardless of the infamous statement by the UK's Baroness Corston.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 05:24 PM
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Only when doing so is necessary to progress human rights. Otherwise, I would say not to bother. The enemies to human rights, like feminsm, keeps changing the meaning of words and it is possible to spend way too much time just countering their stupidities, rather than progressing the cause of a humane society.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 05:18 PM
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I particularly don't care about the largely (but not exclusively) American tendency to pick a side and then attempt to find ways to sort all the things one does not like into the other side. I wrote almost the same thing myself recently. It is a tribalism that is reminiscent of supporting a favourite football team – and with just as little thought as to why. What should matter is whether someone supports a particular policy, not whether the policy is proposed by 'your tribe'. I also agree that w…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 05:15 PM
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So you let your employer determine your ethics? I realise that in countries like the USA people are not free to do as they want but if you really are going to let yourself be bought off so easily, you really are in a poor situation. And you might be surprised. In Greece a few years ago, many MRAs wrote to their employers asking if campaigning on any human rights issue for any section of society would be a problem. Far from the negativity they expected, there was overall support from the majority…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:31 AM
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Twenty years ago, I might have agreed. Since then, almost the entire MRM has got behind the concept of equality. The theory is there and is understood easily: equality of the sexes, in all ways possible.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:26 AM
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these things are not necessarily labelled as men's rights protests / petitions, but what's the gender of the victim in all 3 of these things? Male. I think this is the most obvious point. We can get a lot of action on behalf of males by not engaging in the issue as part of the gender war. It's not even that people don't want to support men: they are just tired of hearing about the sex war and don't know enough to differentiate one side of that war from another. Campaigns for equality do a lot be…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:24 AM
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Such organisation exists in most countries and the MRAs running them will always welcome more help, whether that is sharing the load or donating financially.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:18 AM
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Marxism/feminism has been gripping society for generations. We are not going to remove it in an instant. One big message the MRM must understand is that this is a culture war that we have already half lost. Even just getting to a point where we no longer keep losing is taking a lot of time and effort. Getting back to a healthy society will take a long time after that. Don't expect instant results. Even a revolution won't achieve that (cultural Marxism is waiting for that revolution: it won't go …
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:15 AM
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If your wife is a woman who doesn't think men should have human rights, divorce her first.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:10 AM
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Men's rights are not just white men. Men across the world, of all shades of skin, have their human rights impinged and there is never an excuse to be colourist about this. In every country, the men's rights movement is open to anyone.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:09 AM
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It depends on how 'outlandish' you are. If you organise a rally to 'discuss the ways men are oppressed', yes, you will meet opposition. If you organise a rally to 'discuss the problems of domestic abuse' (for example) and include discussions of how men, children and women are harmed by it then any protesting will backfire. It's like the first ICMI: there was public feminist protesting which gave it all sorts of trouble but the media, although reporting on it, didn't have anything to use to paint…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:05 AM
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Feminists will always try to paint human rights activists in that way but we must ignore them. By definition we are going against the mainstream views, so that can't be the excuse not to be seen as outside the mainstream.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:00 AM
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You can, yes. Be sensitive of what is called the 'Overton Window'. This may mean that you have to tone down the message, sometimes a long way down, to something that shifts the zeitgeist just a little. None of us change our minds in an instant from one view to an opposing view. Humans just aren't built that way. Even if something makes complete and utter sense to us, if we have habits and thoughts that oppose it, our minds will resist the new concept. So always think in terms of what the current…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 01:57 AM
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Protesting doesn't have to be street protests. Some of the most effective protesting is in the legal and political arenas. It takes time to learn how to be even a little effective but once you get the hang of it, you can make a difference.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 01:48 AM
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You can't have it both ways. If you are anonymous, what someone calls you can not be personally important. If you are not a coward, you must stand up against oppression.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 01:42 AM
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And you are willing to be enslaved by a belief system you do not agree with? Poverty of money is not easy, I get that. Losing a job is a scary thing to think about. But poverty of morality, being forced to compromise one's ethics is a terrible cost for a man.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 01:40 AM
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Was that government left of centre? It was not. Yes it was. Centralised economic control, centralised labour, collective voice, authoritarian government, capital control, centralised production quotas. Yes, the National Socialists were a brand of socialist. They hated communists mostly because they were National Socialists, whereas communism at the time was mostly seen as being the Comintern. Hitler declared that that "What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a p…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:25 PM
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…some of those definitions [are] egalitarianism, but what's important is that there are people in the world who hold that exact view, refer to themselves as feminists, and who we do not want to upset. A definition that misses out on the core principles of feminism such as Patriarchy Theory and the existence of general discrimination against men is not feminism. Different people hold differing versions of views but feminism does have a central belief system. I don't want to upset anyone. But I wo…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:56 PM
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Feminism currently has the dominant discussion on gender equality but it certainly does not have a monopoly on gender equality. It doesn't even promote gender equality. That is why movements like the men's movement keep picking up ex-feminists; people who want to support equality and realise, after a while, that they can't support feminism if they want equality.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:43 PM
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I’ll kick the feminist label if it makes yall happy. I never really cared for it anyway. I just don’t think it matters that much. What matters is recognising the damage that feminism has done and continues to do to human rights around the globe.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:34 PM
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Mao Ze Dong was worse than Stalin. As percentage of population, the Communist Party of Kampuchea in Cambodia was far worse than any others.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:32 PM
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I've not read Hobbes for a while but from memory he talks of patriarchy (as have many others). But he is not talking of The Patriarchy. The Patriarchy is a construct from Patriarchy Theory, which is a core part of feminism. It appeared in nascent form in the 1930s in the thinking of the Frankfurt School and was developed as we know it today by various other Marxists and later feminists like Juliet Mitchell.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:18 PM
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I have met well-meaning individuals who are dismayed that there is not a single source of information for men's issues. I'll just explain this for anyone wondering. The men's movement is vastly underfunded. Everything it is and does is opposed by feminist organisations who have an annual budget of $billions compared to a global annual spend for all men's rights groups of about $150k (which may be an overestimate and much of which is spent maintaining web services). We just don't have the resourc…
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:43 PM
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…someone needs to… Well, go on then. Let us know how it goes.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 01:26 PM
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Yes, as I expected, you are not willing to keep to your own standards. You can find the information I provide easily enough but you won't. You are not open to the truth. And when I challenge you to meet your own standards you ask of me, you provide a link that does not prove even the specific claim I gave as an example, let alone any of your other claims. Do your own research, or keep your mind closed but don't expect me to spoon feed you when I can't even trust in your desire to be open to the …
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:43 PM
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Contact me direct if you want specific contacts. I'd need to know which country you are in, unless you want to join the international fight.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:30 AM
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at least you can gave a link Yes, I could spend my time looking for links for you. But you can also do that for yourself. Here's just one example, to start you off: does a woman have to inform the father before aborting a baby When issues are so readily sourced, I do not see it incumbent upon me to provide links to everything. I won't play that game. Do you have a link for every one of your statements, such as "Abortion equals killing only in Christian morality systm"? By inference, you are not …
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:26 AM
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You can find massive amounts about the UN campaign to mutilate men (using the WHO's original terminology) just from a general search on the internet. Much of it on the UN side will be about preventing HIV, or AIDS, or xyz. These claims have all be debunked so often and so thoroughly that they are a joke and nobody really believes them. Even in the UN, different people will come up with different 'justifications' because they know the ground is so shaky. You can even find studies that show MGM ac…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:12 AM
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You clearly know more about the USA than do I but I know enough that men do not have bodily integrity in the USA. Isn't it true that genital mutilation is only illegal when performed on female infants but is allowed on males? That sounds like men/boys do not have bodily integrity as a right. (We digress, I believe, though some consider chopping off a major part of a sex organ to be part of reproductive rights.)
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:02 AM
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Source? Like links to laws that say all the things you just mentioned. I am sure you are well aware I cannot point to laws that have not granted men rights. ​ And i specifically asked about reproduction rights. If i understand anything that happen to a child after birth is not considered an reproductive right. Many say quite the opposite. Personally, I see the issue of reproductive rights as rights connected with species reproduction: therefore covering everything from conception (and possibly w…
/r/MensRights28/06/22 09:48 PM
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Contraceptives were decided on through a Supreme Court case and deemed a constitutional right. That's USA, I presume? I wasn't aware of that. Yes, if it is a constitutional right then even though (as we have seen) that right can be overturned by another court case, I'd call it a right. The concept of what is a right is a slightly tricky one and is often contextual. When used with no other context, however, anything permitted by default (which is how the English Law system used by about ⅓ of the …
/r/MensRights28/06/22 09:32 PM
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A woman can have the child killed and the father doesn't even have an automatic right to be informed, let alone be allowed to talk to the mother about saving his child. A man could potentially be allowed the right, where abortion is available, to state he does not want the child and thereafter have no rights or responsibilities regarding it. But he has no such right. A woman can have a child adopted and the father doesn't even have an automatic right to be informed, let alone automatically becom…
/r/MensRights28/06/22 08:24 PM
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It's strange that abstinence hasn't been mentioned much. Of course, just because you have not sired a child does not mean you will always be able to escape being deemed to be the father. So even abstinence or a vasectomy (or both) won't necessarily save you from reproductive responsibilities, in which case they aren't really reproductive rights at all, though abstinence, at least, is a right in itself (though not in all countries, India being a notable exception).
/r/MensRights28/06/22 08:19 PM
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Do you have a case in point? Or are you referring to the recent decision in the USA that abortion is not a constitutional right (which is pretty obvious to anyone who's read it)? If that is your issue, can you explain how making women have to decide not to have sex if they don't want a baby—which has been and remains the position for men—makes them 'less equal'? It seems to me that when men and women both have the same moment of decision, things are more equal.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 08:14 PM
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The right to be able to use contraceptives as well as the right to a vasectomy. Either of these are not a right as such [Edit: see Jmh1881's response to this]. They can only be said to be a right in that they are not prohibited but that is a poor definition of what constitutes a human right. Unless there is some law I am unaware of (there are no international agreements or declarations) that guarantee these things, they are at best just the current default position, which can be removed at any t…
/r/MensRights28/06/22 08:09 PM
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That's rather an overstatement about the Titanic. 75% of women (91% of female staff) survived on lifeboats, only 50% of children did (and 19% of men). Although we hear the saying "women and children first" in practice, it is more accurate to say "children and men last". As with many disasters, women will save themselves first, while men will usually try to save children and women ahead of themselves. (You will see some dispute this, showing that among the elderly, women die in greater numbers fr…
/r/MensRights28/06/22 07:47 PM
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I've never seen a campaign to make circumcision illegal and I don't think it ever will be because of its religious relationships. There has been fairly continuous campaigning in the UK for seventy years or more. There have been attempts to take it to court but the CPS always close it down. The legacy media not only won't report on campaigns but won't even take advertisements about the truth of the harm genital mutilation does to boys. Female genital mutilation is also a feature of some religious…
/r/MensRights28/06/22 07:25 PM
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For those who can stand even more about this issue and can stay polite and intellectual about it, you might find this debate worth taking part in: r/changemyview : the body autonomy argument on abortion isn’t the best argument.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 07:10 PM
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An interesting analysis of claims being made (from a specifically right-wing position) including the recanting of abortion by the person behind the RvW decision. Why Roe v Wade Was Overturned
/r/MensRights27/06/22 08:28 PM
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OK, you are too pathetically uncaring about people to me to waste any more time on. I show you that you are wrong in what you believe and your response is "I don't care". Yep, I get it: that sums you up. All you care about is women's continuing superiority over men and children.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:09 PM
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i used to be a bunch of cells that would not care if i was aborted because i did not have the capacity to even process that As far as eugenicists go, you are still just a bunch of cells. Arranged in a more complex manner and far more numerous than a fetus but it is just a matter of degree, not of principle. ​ no one allows abortion up to birth/post-birth.. that is actual murder and a fear mongering tactic to try to misinform people into thinking abortion is killing fully developed children Since…
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:59 PM
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You, too, are just a bunch of cells. Never forget that. I used to be ambivalent about abortion until I realised that the main proponents are eugenicists. Then in the United Nations, I started to come across the phrase "post-birth abortion" and soon after that places started making it legal to abort up to and even including birth. At that point, I saw that there was no logical end to 'abortion' and if humanity is to be saved, abortion must be resisted. Abortion today is very largely used as a for…
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:15 PM
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The UDHR doesn't say anything about suicide, so it is therefore permitted. There are, arguably, other clauses such as caring about people's health, that impact the matter of suicide. (Sorry, I realise this is wandering off-topic.)
/r/MensRights27/06/22 02:58 PM
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The National Parents Organization for example, seem to be (slightly) left leaning. Much the same could be said of the equivalent in the EU, the European Platform for Fathers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/22 09:50 PM
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I heard someone today posit that he could be a future President of the USA. I hope his misandry and anti-equality stance has killed off any chance of that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/22 09:47 PM
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Um, let's get that right. There is a death in every abortion. Maternal death from abortion is hard to quantify because of the propaganda around the issue. Notably, most reports of the statistics put it a death due to abortion down to it being an 'unsafe abortion', which when you think of it is pretty meaningless. Figures vary widely from about 0.006% up to 7.9%. Even if we look at that very low number, it is a third of the number (0.017%) quoted for childbirth. None of the statistics ever add in…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 09:18 PM
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Seems to me your trying to imply something about men in general. The more I read of his posts, the more he is sounding like a feminist, let alone a eugenicist.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 09:00 PM
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63% of women feel their rights have been taken away Your source for this wild claim?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 08:57 PM
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1/2 is a pretty large fraction of people who don't believe half the population should have rights regarding their own bodies or lives. 1/2 is a pretty large fraction of people who don't believe ANY of the population should have rights regarding their own bodies or lives, which is what abortion-on-demand adds up to.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 08:55 PM
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As a phrase, you are right. But as a concept, bodily integrity is written into many human rights documents (including constitutions) around the world. For example, UDHR, Article 3: Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 08:52 PM
0

You have to do all the research before making public statements. Feel free to do so.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 08:16 PM
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Self-administered chemical abortions are pretty nasty things. If taken in the first 12 days or so (such as any rape victim would, for example) then it's not so bad, since it prevents gestation getting underway. But after the first month, it can cause complications and even make the woman barren. I know it is being promoted by eugenicists but it is not like taking a paracetamol to get rid of a headache, and can carry the same emotional and mental trauma as later-stage abortion.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 08:15 PM
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My guess would be a feminist troll, hoping to use men's intuitive care for women to split up the effectiveness of the men's rights movement for the dozens of issues that are more important to it than whether women can kill their child at will.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 08:10 PM
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This is not the male/female issue that feminists are pretending. There are women who have been supporting the men's rights movement. There are some men who have been supporting feminism. Men and women both support the life of the child (the child's choice to live). Men and women both support the killing of babies (the woman's choice to destroy life).
/r/MensRights26/06/22 08:04 PM
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Anti-bullying charity Ditch the Label did a large-scale study on Twitter some time back. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-most-likely-use-misogynistic-language-twitter-report-finds-a7364226.html Facebook also found the same but I don't have a link to an online report.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:44 PM
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That's the definition of Woke, though isn't it? People freaking out about issues they don't understand and which don't even affect them.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:24 PM
2

I'm in my 60s and still waiting to get my invite to the local Patriarchy Conspiracy Meeting to talk about how to keep women back. Does anyone know how to join The Patriarchy? I've been blamed for being a part of it all my life, so it's only reasonable I have my chance at taking part and getting some of these unearned privileges I keep hearing the rest of you have.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:20 PM
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They respond with outrage. Because, as you said, it sounds fair.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:16 PM
2

Very appropriate. Nobody is campaigning for women not to have a choice: everyone hates a rapist and supports a woman's right to choose to have sex or not. But just like a man, the time for her to choose not to have a baby is when it gets down to sex. Now woman in some states will have an EQUAL moment of choice as men – and they claim it is oppression. I didn't used to be so anti-abortion but the reaction to the Supreme Court decision sure is firming up my mind! Clearly the eugenicists and femini…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:13 PM
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I would imagine they had a lot of contact from the MRM on that one. It's good to know we can muster the power at times. The article has changed quite a bit. They still have seemingly different advice on how to deal with an emotionally unstable husband compared to an emotionally unstable wife, although there is no great reason. Men's unwillingness to deal with emotionally unstable women is otherwise described as 'where have all the good men gone' and is the not-so-involuntary side of being an inc…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:00 PM
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Just ask your colleague (1) Whether she supports the message in this and if so, (2) to name specifically what legal rights a man possesses that a woman does not, since you can name at least three legal rights which men do not have that women do have. And if it has come on the company's internal email, you probably should suggest that she is careful about sending this kind of thing around because someone might take exception and report it to HR or even as computer misuse.
/r/AntiFeminists24/06/22 07:04 PM
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Okay. If your only purpose was to show that 'personhood' is not a widely-accepted definition, that's fine. I just see a red flag when I see Wikipedia quoted!
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:41 PM
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Just use your head. A tumor never can be a person. A leg that needs to be amputated is, by definition, something that has to happen to save a life. Stop coming up with pathetic excuses and pretending that this is anything to do with a tumor or a dead limb.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:33 PM
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I disagree. We must not oppose a woman's right to choose. We must insist that the last point of choice is when they decide to have sex, since sex always carries the chance of creating a new life. Once you've had a haircut, it is too late to decide you wanted longer hair. Once you've had sex, it is too late to decide you didn't want a child.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:41 PM
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A woman has the same point of choice as a man: before she has sex, she can choose not to. Once another life has been created, it is too late. I totally support a woman's right to choose. If she doesn't want a child, she should keep her legs closed. That is entirely consistent with the feminist message to men that if they don't want a child, they should keep it in their pants.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:36 PM
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If the woman is going to raise the child, the chances are she will be needing some financial support, since in these feminist times it usually takes two incomes to keep a household going. So men (who pay 70% of tax) will end up paying anyway. Just lots of men, instead of the father. So while in principle I agree that it is not fair for a woman to chain a man to pay up $¼m, it isn't fair that the burden is put on the taxpayer, either.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:32 PM
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No, you're just not seeing it right. Men are forced off to war to protect women. They are the majority electorate and it's in their selfish interest to have men fulfil that role, going to war on their behalf. So you see, it is perfectly consistent: it's her body and her choice that is the issue.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:28 PM
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You do realise that Wikipedia is edited by paid feminist authors, don't you? You need to find a better guide for your moral position than a source like that!
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:24 PM
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Absolutely. The time for a woman to chose is the same as the time for a man: when they decide to have sex.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:21 PM
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The problem is that there is more than just a man and a woman involved. There is a third party and we are not just talking about that third person's convenience or pocket: we are talking about their life.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:20 PM
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I support the right of every unborn woman to choose. I support the right of every unborn man to choose. I support the right of every grown adult woman to choose. Her time to choose is before she opens her legs to have sex, since sex can always lead to a new life.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:14 PM
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Ultimately, treating yourself (as a man) as though you were a threat never allows women to realise that you are not a threat. If men always go dodging around, removing themselves from female presence those females can never get used to the idea that men are not dangerous. You feed neuroticism and undeserved fear. The reality is that men are far more dangerous to other men, and that men are far more likely to come to a woman's aid than to be a threat to her. Don't give her any more reason to thin…
/r/MensRights24/06/22 02:14 PM
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not being hate speech since it is not against a minority. Never accept that. Men are the minority sex. That is why you will often see the phrase "women and minorities": women are not a minority. So complain and never let the lie that men are not a minority be an excuse for hating against us. In this instance, it isn't all males, since only those 18 to 45 or so would be sent to war, which is a minority even of the minority.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:51 PM
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Please do not fall for intersectionality. You have no reason to apologise just because you are of the same sex as women who do bad things, any more than I need to apologise just because I am of the same sex as men who do bad things. Only apologise for your own actions. And campaign against the bad actions of others, regardless of sex, colour, creed or any other excuse.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:47 PM
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This is sounding good. I signed with "Although I am not in the USA, I recognise that this is a way for Florida to lead the world in caring for children and future generations." I haven't even been aware of this in the making. If there is any potted history of how it came about (that other MRAs can learn from) please point to where it can be found. Is there anything in the Bill to punish a parent for not complying with court orders, or for dealing with parental alienation?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:27 PM
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That's a bit too vague as a position statement. Babies don't give permission to have their nails cut; most kids scream when they first have their hair cut; someone unconscious after an accident still needs emergency medical treatment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/22 09:44 PM
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And for the most part is totally ineffective at generating change. We still face a multi-billion dollar industry that had a head start long before more than a dozen men realised what was happening. Even George Orwell's warnings have been buried as much as possible. ​ Even the biggest successes were of no benefit to men. Wow. That is pure ignorance! I was going to say that you're a glass-half-empty type but looking at the examples you give, I'm not sure that's even true. Feminist 5th columnist? ​…
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:28 PM
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It shouldn't. Essentialist beliefs include that everyone has intrinsic, personal and individual value. To society as a whole, then masculine men and feminine women are necessary and society should be shaped mostly around their needs and the needs of their familes, since that is what keeps society going from generation to generation. Society should never persecute anyone else, nor see them as 'lesser' individuals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 04:57 PM
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I'm not convinced, though it is possible. I've read this on a feminist web site but they didn't even understand that the Istanbul Convention has no direct connection with the EU. The EU one to watch is the potential law under the guise of the Promotion of Tolerance. So far, the MRM has been able to hold that one back but it is a constant battle and now the UK is out of the EU, that's a couple less watchers keeping an eye on it.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 09:43 PM
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That is how equity started out, I agree: as a replacement terminology for equality of outcome. Since then, certainly from the top, it has morphed more into a version of balance. However, that is not to be confused with traditionalism or essentialism (both of which also have a balancing concept) since it is 'acceptable' to use perceived historic 'injustice' to claim 'justice' now. E.g. I believe your great-grandfather took part in dominating my great-grandmother (or rather, the class I am putting…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 02:37 PM
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Some people who think they are feminists do genuinely care about men. We get that even today. But just as you would look askance at someone who is in the KKK and supports black people, or a Nazi who supports Jews, so someone who shows they care about men is wrong in saying they are a feminist. Feminism must be judged/defined by what the major feminist organisations do, what its leading literature advocates, what is taught as feminism in colleges and universities. Feminism is an anti-male, barely…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 11:23 AM
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I'm always amused by people who bring up the vote in discussions on feminism. If you ask any child about who got women the vote, they will likely say 'suffragettes'. Putting aside that the answer is mostly wrong (it does depend a little on which country) there is documentary evidence that shows the suffragette movements were distinct from the feminist movements. In studying this some years back, I even stumbled on a Welsh suffragette group that banned feminists. Most feminist groups never suppor…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 11:16 AM
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Ah, there is that great line. Feminism is giving up on equality now that it is obvious that it never supported it. Instead, it is talking about equity, which it defines all by itself in an ever-changing evolution so that nobody can argue against it. What can we say about 'equity' that is consistent? It puts men and children at the bottom, women at the top.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 11:04 AM
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The MRM has hundreds of books; more video-hours than you could hope to watch; blogs and forums galore; political, social and legal wings; local grass-roots organisations, national structures and international coordination; left-wing and right-wing elements… I'm lost as to what you think is missing. Games? I can't think of any video games but a board game was attempted (before my time) but didn't get anywhere. There is plenty out there for people to engage with and more is growing every year. Mos…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 10:57 AM
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There are prohibitions against the state putting women in danger. Quite apart from the implications of what police women are supposed to do, this means that female soldiers may not be put at risk. Strictly, it could be argued that anyone in military service is de facto at risk, so all female soldiers may have to be sacked whether they want to or not. And I can't mention the police without also pointing out that, when taking various parts of the Istanbul Convention together, it becomes clear that…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 10:45 AM
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Do you know where The Viper (aka the Black Viper) files can be found? I lost my copy of them.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 10:20 AM
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But women are only running society because men make them because of The Patriarchy! /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 08:58 PM
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Segregation is an easy prediction! There are already signs of it from India to Australia, from Chile to France. Given the purpose is to break up and damage society, it is a logical next step and while there is much that is illogical about feminism, the men who invented modern feminism fully understood what to do.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 08:54 PM
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In addition, just like us men have to get used to it (and let's never forget we are at higher average risk of being attacked than women), if we stop circling around and just let women get used to us walking around them safely they can learn to stop being so paranoid. If they stop being so paranoid, they will live happier lives. It's a win-win situation and the only people who can lose by us men refusing to behave as though we are dangerous criminals is the cultural Marxists / feminists who want …
/r/MensRights20/06/22 08:46 PM
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We have our share of successes. That things have been getting worse for a long time should not detract from the fact that without men and women fighting hard in the MRM over the past five decades, our lives would be a great deal worse (already). What is needed is not people throwing up their hands and saying "it's hopeless" but pulling their finger out at doing something. If everyone who calls themselves an MRA actually did some advocacy or activism, it would make a big enough difference to kick…
/r/MensRights20/06/22 05:19 PM
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That's because the people who taught you didn't care about men being assaulted, so were not talking about that. They probably also taught you that boys don't hit girls, never mind what. See the pattern?
/r/MensRights20/06/22 05:04 PM
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It depends on which state the incident occurred in the USA. Some states don't have rape on the statute at all: it is all tried under gender-neutral sexual assault. Some are even more ridiculously biased than England, Germany, Switzerland or even India.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 05:02 PM
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It isn't the courts. It is firstly the police, and then the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS, or 'public prosecutor' for foreigners). When reporting a crime to the police always ask for a crime number. This means they will have to record something and you will have a reference to be able to find out the progress of the reported crime. The CPS are a much bigger issue. They will quash whatever they want and thereby prevent criminal prosecution. It is possible to put some weight on them but it's not …
/r/MensRights20/06/22 04:59 PM
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My mum says it's not technically rape because in the UK rape is defined by penetration via a penis so because of this, this meant she didn't rape him… Your Mum is (almost) perfectly correct. While colloquially we can say a man can be raped, laws drive culture and the law in England and Wales (that's why you mum isn't completely correct: Scotland is different) is very clear on this. ​ … and what happened to my mate wouldn't hold in court This is entirely wrong. Your friend was the victim of sexua…
/r/MensRights20/06/22 04:48 PM
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The best relationship is where you can't tell when you move from chatting to flirting to foreplay to sex, it just happens naturally and wonderfully and you both end up satiated. Ah, how terrible of me: I forgot to mention the need for Affirmative Consent and to get her to sign in triplicate that she wants you to do each individual thing before you do it, and to repeat this every three minutes just to make sure. Yeah, like the purpose of that really isn't to kill romance and passion.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 10:05 PM
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Tom golden gives a Fathers Day message. Three things to thank your dad for on Father's Day that he might not even know he did. But he did.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 08:04 PM
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Why did you say it? What was your point? Why did you make that comment in response to me pointing out that women are not made to be equal to men anywhere in the world, and that women have advantages in every country in the world?
/r/MensRights19/06/22 03:34 PM
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Pull up the video on YouTube and give it a thumbs up. This improves the exposure the video gets.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:58 PM
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Since there is so much of the media that seems to want to ban Fathers Day, I will say to you all: Happy Fathers Year. Well done for all you manage to do for your children. Come to that, well done for all you do for all children, helping and guiding them to be good people.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:53 PM
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That's a lot of us. It's been twenty years now, my kids are grown but the pain of being ripped from my children still hurts. Thanks for thinking of us. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:50 PM
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Well done and special Fathers Day wishes for you.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:48 PM
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Females don't have to support themselves in Pakistan. Even if they have money, they are under no legal obligation to pay for their own needs, that is all put upon the man of the house – even if that man is just a child. I repeat: There are some countries in which men also have some advantage; did you want to remove that from them in your idea of equality, so that men even there have overall disadvantage? Where a society recognises that men and women are different, it is to be expected that it gr…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:41 PM
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when there are some countries where women still don’t have full equality I am unaware of any country in which women have equality. Women have advantages in every country in the world. There are some countries in which men also have some advantage; did you want to remove that from them in your idea of equality, so that men even there have overall disadvantage. Not every society believes in equality. A great many men and woman around the world go so far as to believe that there are differences bet…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:06 PM
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In most countries, the foundation of men's rights activism was in father's rights groups. Family courts are still pushing men into the arms of the MRM. From the feminist perspective this is inevitable since the first main goal of feminism, as defined by those lovely men from Frankfurt, is the destruction of the family.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 08:11 PM
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Welcome here. You might not like this but you still have a lot of toxic feminism and that is showing through quite loudly. The good news is that you can get better. Yes, I mean 'get better' in terms of mental health. One day, you will understand that. The rough news is that it normally takes years to get better. How many years will depend on how much of a reader and an activist you are. Why are you here, though? So you have been woken up to feminism, which might take you to r/antifeminist but wh…
/r/MensRights17/06/22 08:06 PM
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The wiring in our brains is not keeping up with civilization’s changes. You can't change evolutionary disposition with a few decades of cultural Marxism/feminism. We are who we are as natural creatures. Logically we might say it doesn't matter. One advantage women have in that area is that they are happier behaving emotionally (save the woman).
/r/MensRights16/06/22 01:59 PM
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Bigotry simply should not exist among the left, It depends which aspect of the left one considers. I think part of the problem, very much tied into the difficulty the Left has in separating itself from feminism, is that the Left has uncritically adopted Marxism. Marx (and his aristocratic buddy Engels) was a severe racists, a sexist and what we would today call a homophobe. This is clear both from his published works and his private letters. For many reasons Marx is one of the worst hooks to han…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/22 01:46 AM
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What matters to feminists above all is whether it helps men. If so, it doesn't matter how it might help women, it will be resisted. We see this on everything from genital mutilation (if feminists stopped resisting a ban on MGM, this would help eliminate FGM), to parental alienation (children and innocent parents of both sexes could be helped if feminists just shut up).
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:50 PM
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You are assuming that without abortion, women will be just as careless about pregnancy as they are now. Women didn't used to be careless in such numbers and I see no reason to assume that so many will be as careless once abortion is denied them.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:39 PM
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If the child is adopted, he won't be paying. Otherwise, he will be expected to pay up to half, or even more. That won't give him rights to see the child, should he want to.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 06:42 PM
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It wouldn't be a problem that feminists do nothing for men if only they didn't get in the way. There are people who want to do things for men but we are met with opposition from feminists at every step. (Also, though not pertinent to the topic, I can't leave you saying that feminism leaves out 50% of society. I presume you think that feminism includes 100% of women, when feminism misses out or directly opposes a great many women. This is why feminism is supported by only 5% to 20% of women depen…
/r/MensRights14/06/22 10:33 PM
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Rubbish.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 09:56 PM
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The Belief they hold so dearly to that Modern Men are deserving of the treatment they receive from Modern Feminists for wrongs of Men no longer living. Correction: The Belief they hold so dearly to that Modern Men are deserving of the treatment they receive from Modern Feminists for claimed wrongs of Men no longer living.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 09:54 PM
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Yeah, that damned glass ceiling, especially in the UK: The highest-paid executive is a woman (by quite a large margin) The head of state is female (and she's been there for 70 years now). Yeah, that bloody Patriarchy holding women down!
/r/MensRights14/06/22 09:53 PM
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I like strong, intelligent women. But like men, if they are insufferable and confuse their strength with others' weakness, THEN they are toxic. Too often, these feminist-strong-woman types confuse the idea of climbing up, with the idea of trampling others below them.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 10:11 AM
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To learn more of this, start by searching on "Dear Colleague." Briefly, some years ago educational campuses started to secede from the USA by order of federal government. If that sounds absolutely crazy .. it is, it has been, and it has been a huge problem worked on by some dedicated men in the men's rights movement, and some allies outside of it.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 09:53 AM
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It disgusts me that people would want more women around children instead of men. Since women kill, abuse and mistreat children at far greater rate than men, those people who encouraged women instead of men to be near schoolkids should be exposed as the pedos and child abuse supporters they are. I mean it. This is the weapon that will make a difference: shame those people who invited extra danger into their neighbourhood. Shame them and hound them out of public office.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 12:43 AM
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Reproduction is a need. For a man, reproduction needs a woman. The part of a woman that begins reproduction is pussy: without a focus on that by men in the past, we would not all be here today.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/22 12:06 AM
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Amber Heard has now spoken about her reaction to the judgement against her. A UK barrister makes his commentary: UK Barrister REACTION to #AmberHeard INTERVIEW!
/r/MensRights13/06/22 05:39 PM
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Not at all. Nobody would be excluding the child because when the child grows up, they will almost certainly not chose to mutilate themselves. Like an increasing number of Jews, they would honour God's creation and leave their body alone as He intended.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 08:16 PM
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Plenty of reports indicate that the group's best interest is served by banning child mutilation, not allowing for it.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 08:13 PM
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If men do not stand up for their rights as men, they will lose those rights. History through the ages shows us that the only people to sustain rights are those who press for and enforce them.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 12:08 PM
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So what? This is such a useless factoid in terms of dealing with air pollution that one can only conclude that it is a feminist 'study' (it's been done before, over past decades, so there's nothing new). As a feminist hit-piece it merely needs to be sneered at.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 11:41 AM
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The MRM's stance generally is that people should do no harm and leave individuals to make decisions for their life as far as possible. This is particularly true of an issue such as genital alteration/mutilation. Indeed, in most countries, male circumcision can easily be seen to be an oddity in social and legal acceptance. Female circumcision is outlawed internationally and in most nations; it is illegal to pull out toenails—which has minimal lifetime effect—but not illegal to slice off a foreski…
/r/MensRights12/06/22 11:08 AM
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It is too easy for a brainless idiot (or a clever propagandist – they can be hard to tell apart) to make a quick and simple statement, and then tie up lots of otherwise more intelligent or sensible people in knots trying to argue against it. Perhaps it is better just to laugh at nonsense, not waste time on it.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 10:44 AM
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Iran is an incredible example of just how quickly a country can be taken over by feminism. I see it also as a good example of a society where neither men nor women would (originally) have gained by sexual equalities. Women were women, men were (and are) men, and the dimorphous nature of society used to work well (I'm not saying I would have wanted to live there but it's not my country and I've not been brought up in that culture).
/r/MensRights12/06/22 09:39 AM
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Yes, the legal process does need to be reformed. A victim deserves to feel equal justice has been done regardless of the sex of the perpetrator who harmed them. This applies to almost every Western nation, English-speaking or not, as well as other nations such as India, Myanmar and Mozambique. In most countries, changes can be made when there is the political will. But people generally do not care about criminals, and most people assume that if someone is in jail then they are safer for (him) be…
/r/MensRights12/06/22 01:24 AM
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Men found guilty almost always get punished. Look up The Empathy Gap (the huge book or the web site) to see the UK data.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 01:15 AM
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SELECT logic INTO feminism OUTPUT explosion
/r/MensRights12/06/22 01:10 AM
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Very few rape accusations - even the convicted ones - are of the "busted face and vaginal tearing" variety.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 06:28 PM
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No. But in fairness, if it is a social problem, then the social measures to deal with the problem would be different, even though the effect on victims is unchanged. But that is not what this Dr Fileborn seems to be suggesting. She is just following the radical feminist line that men are always bad, so of course you can learn something good in having a women illegally bring the state down upon you. Which is just her promoting state abuse of an abused man. I see nothing in anything she has said t…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 06:19 PM
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The current version of feminism always was shitting on women. Read Karl Marx or even his co-author the Baron Engels, to understand about that. I know it's common for people new to the plight of men to think that feminism is all about women only but it is not. It is anti-male, anti-most-women, and anti-children. It is anti-society and anti-freedom, regardless of your gonads.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 06:09 PM
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it's the men's fault that they get accused so reflect on that and think "what did we wrong to get falsely accused"? You've hit the empathy gap full on here. This sort of message is very common in the UN and even predates the takeover of feminism by cultural Marxism in the 1940s and 50s. Feminists mean two basic things by it: 1) We don't believe men anyway (since we always think women are darling angels) so a man protesting his innocence is guilty and we all know that. 2) Even if we have to accep…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 06:01 PM
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They state that false accusations make up 5% of cases No. They say that 5% of accusations are proven to be false. Nobody knows for sure how many unproven ones are false but I generally accept the overall figure as being somewhere between 10% and 40%. I suspect it varies greatly from place to place even within one country or state.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:41 PM
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Unless suspects are not be named until convicted I don't think you will find many informed men willing to encourage all women to report what they believe is sexual assault. The harsh reality is that as a long as feminists continue to successfully block anonymity for the accused, men are becoming less and less sympathetic to women. And that is a terrible state of affairs. If the feminists would just shut up and go away, we could build a healthy society.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:37 PM
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I guess it's actually a numbers game.... the smaller they can make a number, the less the victims of that crime matter. That's always the disgusting part of that kind of talk. Can you imagine the police turning up to your burnt-out house after a riot and saying "The number of times this happen is so small, we aren't going to even bother about it!" I also note that they say 5% of rape allegations is what is PROVEN false! I had no idea it was even that high! Imagine how many they could prove if th…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:31 PM
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Men need to start talking up about it. We have a right to talk about the life of defenceless children.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:11 PM
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When every abortion averted from black parents will result in a black baby, I have never understood how it can be racists of white people to want to save the baby! But then, as hard as I have studied a lot of feminism, I still do not understand feminist logic.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:09 PM
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The eugenicists who push most strongly for abortion are rooted in cultural Marxism. Feminism is also a branch of cultural Marxism. That is why the abortion issue gets splashed with feminism and its misandry. Feminists have been taught man hatred and can't help but express it, wanting to push their own messages when they follow the path towards trying to undermine society as much as they can.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:07 PM
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The life and safety of the most vulnerable has always been a male issue. Protecting children is very much a man's role and there is none more vulnerable than the unborn child in today's world.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:02 PM
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Yes. So just get your feminist sisters to stop getting in the way every time we try to help men with shelters, help-lines and other programmes. The men's movement would have built up masses of them by now if it (1) we had no feminist resistance (the most important part) and (2) we had just 5% of the money the floods into the feminist DV industry. And if you think I'm joking, go read Erin Pizzey's books. As the woman who started the first ever women's, then men's, shelters, she can tell you what …
/r/MensRights11/06/22 04:42 PM
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Most perpetrators of child abuse are female. Most shoplifters are female. Neither of those things matter when considering what it just. Male or female, the punishment should be the same. Oh, and as for women being the greater victims of partner violence, one thing that you are missing, in common with all feminists, is that many men will not hit back at a woman - but they will kill themselves over an impossible situation in which they can find no help. Add in the number of men driven to suicide (…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 04:36 PM
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Including using the state to do the violence for them, if its against a man.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 04:27 PM
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Most crime - including violent crime - goes unsolved. Not until we can say for sure who commits those unsolved crimes, can we say for sure who commits most crimes. We cannot extrapolate from the solved crimes and assume the same percentage because police concentrate on crimes where a man committed them. (They do that for good reason: police have limited time and the courts will only take male criminals off the street. So crimes committed by women are lower in the budget for police time.)
/r/MensRights11/06/22 04:26 PM
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Not really. She didn't go to jail 'for making a false accusation' but for wasting police time. For that I think she was punished quite harshly (two months for a few hours of police time.. seems tough to me). I suspect the judge just wanted to tell her not to piss off his buddies in the police service.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 04:20 PM
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The justice system protects its own. If she had accused another person, she likely would have gotten off. Also, the only reason her lie was caught is that she didn't know she was under surveilance. I don't think the surveillance matters. If she had accused another person, the police would have arrested him, and he probably would have been charged. Only after two years of hell waiting to prove his innocence, would they then get to court and drop the charges if he is lucky.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 04:17 PM
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You are displaying your ignorance in UK law and in sexual relationships. Since you challenged me on the presumption you knew more than I did, you need to be at least as well informed as I am. Learn, then come back to discuss matters if you want.
/r/AntiFeminists11/06/22 03:47 PM
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Human Rights And Wrongs, which is a human rights blog on men.we.bs does not have right-wing obsessions. If you don't agree with everything to do with human rights, learn from that fact. The link goes directly to the page on the MRM Boycott Lists. You can access those lists without paying any attention to anything you don't like, or you can read the articles (and comment on them) if you want.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:39 PM
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When you know what you're talking about, or are willing to learn, then come back and learn. Until then, stop the lying and excusing the UN.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 09:56 PM
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The legislation might be able (after the usual effort) to be made gender neutral. The implementation of the legislation would not be gender neutral.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 06:42 PM
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The more you study feminism under a critical lens, the more you realise that its central tenets are in contention with each other (quite apart from them being based on a skewed world view). Feminism is an ideology that has always had contradictions. Oddly, that's been part of its power, since it is so hard to argue logically against something that has no logic to start with, so does not rely upon it for its power.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 06:37 PM
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1983 was when CEDAW was determined to be more important than almost anything else. You could go back to CEDAW in 1979 but you can keep going back..! The UN is indeed a feminist organisation. And they declared themselves to be. Some newer people would point to 2010 as being when this occurred but there was a general assembly resolution in late 90s (1997? I don't have my reference library with me here - you can look for it) that made the UN into a feminist organisation.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 06:25 PM
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It really feels like outright war against males, by females. There are women on both sides. There are men on both sides. Often, the people who could keep out the extremists—and should, on the basis that there should not be any ideological influences—are male and the people proposing these toxic feminists are male. It's not a war of the sexes. It is an ideological war.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 03:36 PM
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I don't think any country is doing generally well against feminism but I do see the UK as leading in having radical, hate-filled feminists openly controlling the police and legislature. We got rid of a feminist police chief recently but even her dismissal wasn't really down to her open misandry. We lost a couple of feminist senior judges to retirement and one of the replacements is not so bad. But it is a struggle. Even the men who see what is going on rarely actually DO anything about it.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 03:32 PM
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Harriet Wistrich is variously described as a 'feminist;, 'lesbian', 'radical feminist' and 'feminist lawyer'. She has written papers such as 'A Feminist Approach to Practicing Law'. I say that just in case anyone is left with ANY doubt that Wistrich is ONLY interested in saving brutal women and is interested in harming ONLY men regardless of guilt. This is the sort of person who should either be in a mental hospital or convicted of one of the country's horrible hate speech laws. She should never…
/r/MensRights08/06/22 03:27 PM
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Sure but not only is the subject not mathematics (any more than it is database theory, which would also uses set as well as collection to term such things), a set comprising small dogs, bananas, asteroids and belly-button fluff is not a useful set (I'm struggling to see one anyway!). A set of human rights issues, heterosexual normative interrelation skills, people who are unable to have sex, men who want to leave mainstream society, and philosophical debates is equally unhelpful and pointless.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 03:11 PM
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"Manosphere" is a nonsense terminology that simply works to confuse people and distract from the issues that people should be considering with men's rights.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 03:01 PM
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Quite so. It is pathetic, meaningless and forms a large part of the 'online bullying' that feminists talk about so much as being an excuse to censor .. wait for it .. the very people they bully online!
/r/MensRights08/06/22 02:40 PM
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The MRM boycott lists are strictly limited to those brands associated directly with the oppression of men (or boys). If that was true that's the only thing your website would consist of. I'm not going to bother with your idiocy when you raise such fallacies at the outset. Goodbye and enjoy your own nonsense. Please don't use the site or the MRM Boycott Lists, just let those who put effort in get on with it without your idiocy.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 02:32 PM
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The position the US Ambassador is taking is straight-talking UN policy since at least 1983. This kind of attitude permeates throughout the UN, which many don't even realise is a self-declared feminist organisation.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 02:29 PM
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Like in almost every country in the world, the feminists are controlling the dominant narrative on domestic violence in the UK. Since the UK is all too good at importing American culture, the Duluth model is widely used still. It is having to be fought at a politically local level. There have been legal challenges made with are making some impact on local authorities and hopefully, Duluth will be kicked out in as little as another five years. It helps that the feminist introduction of a punitive…
/r/MensRights08/06/22 02:18 PM
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The obscure wording in the VAWG Strategy has slipped in as a way to settle the minds of MPs (national politicians) who have been pressured by the UK men's movement to secure the needs of male victims. With that wording, the civil serpents can respond to MPs and say "but the VAWG Strategy does cover men and boys. Look: it says so here." In the short term, (ten years or so) this has done more harm than good because it meant that statistics for male victims were usually lumped into the same as thos…
/r/MensRights08/06/22 02:11 PM
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Why? Hating people in general only harms yourself. Instead of hate, just get active in helping bring down the people at all levels who support these kinds of policies.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 09:56 PM
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Actually H. Clinton's context was worse than that. The implication of her words are that men dying in war is a form of domestic abuse against women.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 09:54 PM
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This has been solid UN positioning since 1983 at least, though it dates back to the UN's predecessor, League of Nations, in the 1930s.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 09:52 PM
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I agree. I rarely get involved in the whole right/left stuff. It is more often a smokescreen and confusion than it really helps, especially on an international forum.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 09:46 PM
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Restoring the principle of being innocent until proven guilty is only one part of what needs to be done. But since you are sure it is easy, does this mean you will undertake this change? After all, hundreds of men a week suffer from this one aspect alone. Well worth an easy effort from you.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 09:43 PM
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In general, the more leftwards someone's politics, the more likely they are to be sexist and misandrist. But that does not apply at an individual level. There are many strong left-thinking men and women active in the wider men's movement. The same applies with the extreme right, too. They are more generally likely to pander to women and ignore men but there are individual exceptions.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 07:30 PM
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I think it clear he is writing for society. In social, anthropological and evolutionary terms, homosexuals, asexuals and heterosexuals who never want children, are all a dead-end. While societies should not persecute anyone, societies must be structured around those who perpetuate humanity and society. That tends to be upward of 90% of the population (though anthropologically, there are arguments that up to 70% of men were dead-ends anyway).
/r/MensRights07/06/22 03:48 PM
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The OP reads like a text from a very confused person. Perhaps someone newly recovering from being a feminist. In which case, great and I wish them well over the coming years as it usually takes about three to six years to really shuck off feminism enough to see the world right. (One problem I have with the whole 'Red Pill' concept is the idea that you can change views as quick as flipping a coin: the human mind doesn't work like that.) By the end of another two or three years' study, there shoul…
/r/MensRights07/06/22 03:42 PM
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Now you have me wondering. Do I know of a non-narcissistic feminist? There are some I'm not sure of because I don't know them well but that's the best I can say. As a checkpoint, I do know narcissists who are not feminists, so the terms are not synonymous.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 03:27 PM
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I haven't seen anyone suggest that women should not post here, nor grumble about women posting. The issue is about feminists posting here and trolling the site. I haven't seen any suggestion that feminists of one sex should be treated differently. Without women in the men's rights movement, public traction would be even worse than it is, particularly in north America, France, China and Pakistan.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 03:08 PM
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If you want to join the effort to maintain the lists, by all means volunteer. The MRM boycott lists are strictly limited to those brands associated directly with the oppression of men (or boys). We get blamed for not putting things on there because we won't just take pro-feminism, or something enacted by an employee but not sanctioned by at least one director. So rest assured that what is listed is relevant specifically to men. How you use our efforts is up to you. We do not tell anyone not to u…
/r/MensRights07/06/22 02:18 PM
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Men's reactions around the world to the oppression of men in their own country, and in other countries, is much the same. So you can get a fair idea of what men in the USA think of such things when they occur in Australian by considering what Australian men think of such things when they occur in the USA.
/r/MensRights07/06/22 02:12 PM
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I am not aware of a single feminist organisation in the world that even says is it about equality for everyone, let alone one that actually is about equality for everyone. Not even the global feminist organisation, the United Nations, makes the claim. People pretending that feminism is about equality are simply ignorant of feminist organisations and writings, or are fully knowledgeable liars.
/r/AntiFeminists06/06/22 06:27 PM
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It is an area in which the MRM has had a lot of success. Go back 20 and 30 years, it was a major fighting point from the feminists. In the UK, equal ages for retirement had to be addressed because they wanted to increase the retirement age for everyone. We do get some successes. What we still need to achieve in this area is an acceptance that equality in retirement is nonsense if based on the age of the person. It should instead be based on the typical retirement expectation. That will set men's…
/r/MensRights06/06/22 06:16 PM
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Equal pension ages is not equality of the sexes. Men die about 4 years sooner than women. Only equality of retirement time can be considered equality of the sexes. Men should be able to retire on equal state benefits so that the average retirement time is equal. Apart from anything else, once the MRM wins that battle, more effort will be put into supporting and promoting men's health, so that they live longer. In the EU, the case for equal pension benefits has been secured by a few brave individ…
/r/MensRights06/06/22 06:10 PM
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I am ignorant, you are right. I do not know of a single jurisdiction in the world in which marital rape is illegal. As far as I know, the only laws against marital rape only apply when a husband rapes his wife. There are jurisdictions where not only is it still legal for a wife to rape her husband but it is considered domestic abuse if he doesn't want sex with her! So, you relieve me of my ignorance. When and where is all marital rape illegal?
/r/AntiFeminists06/06/22 06:02 PM
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Uber have been added to the Australian version of the MRM Boycott Lists.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 05:52 PM
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Uber have been added to the Australian version of the MRM Boycott Lists. If Uber spread this to other nations, please advise Men Webs using the contact form on the site. The MRM Boycott Lists contain lists of brands that belong to a business which has gone against the interests of men or children. The lists are plain text files so you can be confident of them and can store them on your phone easily for access when shopping.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 05:42 PM
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Sure, ask your politicians to defund the feminist domestic violence industry to the extent that non-feminist men's shelters and aid is funded. Push for it. I wish you well.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 07:05 PM
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I am forgetting nothing so your strawman arguments and historical ignorance have no part in this topic. I'm not interested in discussing with you what you believe women needed a hundred years ago. I'm talking of my experience over the past five decades of modern feminism. There is a good reason why most women are not feminist. There is a good reason why feminists like you lie about that.
/r/AntiFeminists04/06/22 07:02 PM
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They would say not. They segregated men from their families and kept children with women in one section and men—on the other side of a high fence—in another section. (Children were not allowed in the men's area, on the excuse they had no facilities in that part of the camp.) The women's area was then the only area supplied with food (because food is scarce and the children must be fed, see?). This has happened in at least two camps, a few years apart. In at least one camp, the men's area was too…
/r/MensRights04/06/22 06:39 PM
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I had interpreted rule 7 as being someone banned, not a topic banned. It all kinds of censorship are not allowed to be discussed, it seems like we are halfway to losing.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 11:21 PM
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Wow, you are confused. My knowledge of feminism, from an experience of having to fight them because they oppose any efforts to help men or provide men with human rights, says that feminism is VERY much about fighting men. So don't give me any of your ignorant bullshit until you have been in the real world trying to do real things on behalf of men or boys. And don't try pretending that I, and the men and women I work with, have any problem with women. You sound like you are a feminists and there …
/r/AntiFeminists03/06/22 10:55 PM
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In the UK, it wasn't until the MRM started to seriously campaign for equality of retirement time that men finally got equality of retirement age (more accurately, it was introduced as a target). That did take the wind out of the campaign for equal retirement time but personally it's not something I will give up, any more than all the other stupid crap about equality.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 10:43 PM
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It is a personal win, which is good. It is a very public vindication that a man can be falsely accused AND that this causes huge damage to him. His legal team would have been justified in keeping this away from the MRM. If there had been a sniff of that from him, the other side would have had feminist funding and expertise and no WAY would Depp have won. Even now, he would be advised to avoid that happening. As it is, the feminists have mostly kept quiet, spending only a few million $ in propaga…
/r/MensRights02/06/22 02:14 PM
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The feminists are making such claims already. Do you really think feminists believe that this court decision is just or correct? If the case makes any difference to feminism, it will simply entrench the propaganda that the courts are there for men only.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 02:09 PM
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That is why this case is important. It won't make a huge difference but the world has been woken up to the idea of false allegations. It gives the ordinary man a slightly better chance of justice and sometimes it only takes one juror to turn the decision.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 02:05 PM
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Absolutely. The MRM must not get carried away with wanting false accusers punished, and end up dissuading those who have been assaulted from reporting it and helping convict the abuser, where possible. You have my sympathy, for what it is worth to you.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 11:31 PM
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The posts are concentrating on the double standards deployed. Whether all adults should be conscripted, or no adults should be is up to each individual: there is certainly no consensus on that issue in the MRM. If women want equality, and it is enforced on men, then it should be enforced on women, too. Enforcing equality on only one sex is not equality.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 11:25 PM
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It could be. Women aren't as capable as men in road construction—to pick just one example—yet demand the same pay as more productive men. Just because women can't fight as well as men is no reason to exclude them from fighting.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 11:13 PM
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Putin is an elected leader. So, who put him in positions, since that is the real seat of power? Dated 2018: Russia votes: Vladimir Putin is counting on female turnout The Kremlin has put its faith in one particular group of voters for Russia's presidential election: women. So, in Russia, it seems that the war is mostly women's fault. In Ukraine, women also hold the power. Women’s Participation in Politics and Decision-Making in Ukraine Since women numerically prevail in the electorate, each sing…
/r/MensRights01/06/22 11:11 PM
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Among many other disgusting aspects of that article is this, pretending that feminists and their ilk are peaceful and non-violent! As it is, men’s rights activists spend their energies attacking feminist and other progressive movements, the very forces that seek to lessen the militarism that costs so many men and boys their lives... — Dr Michael Flood (@MichaelGLFlood) February 25, 2022 No feminist has averted war. Feminists are violent.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 10:44 PM
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Because feminists are not speaking out against the sexism which works against men. And because female feminists are happy to exit the country rather than stay there and do as they say women should do, and be equal to men. If male and female feminists have guilt, where is this showing?
/r/MensRights01/06/22 10:30 PM
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It is easy to say that false accusations should carry the same punishment but I think society is better off for having law that punish broadly in line with the damage being done. Someone who has been battering a partner into submission for a decade deserves a harsh penalty. The victim in that case will have suffered unimaginably for most of us and will probably need years of therapy needed to help them recover. Such suffering is great compared to someone falsely accused of slapping them once aro…
/r/MensRights31/05/22 05:16 PM
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Quite so. These are accusations of false accusations. The problem is that almost none of them will have had the slightest examination to determine them as a crime, and (perhaps) that there is too little/too vague law to cover them. Most jurisdictions have some law against wasting police time, though, so probably there is good reason to think a large numbers of crimes have been committed but are being allowed to go unpunished.
/r/MensRights31/05/22 05:07 PM
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There are many genuine cases where an accusation does not lead to a conviction but the accusation cannot be proved to be mendacious, let alone being made to be deceitful. Only when an accusation is made knowingly false, should it be prosecuted and, if found guilty, the person convicted accordingly. Examples where abuse cannot be proven include: mistaken identity; mistaken concept of what constitutes abuse (he wouldn't put sugar in my tea); and unproven abuse (no witness, nothing recorded, no bru…
/r/MensRights31/05/22 05:03 PM
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You should have called the cops. Stop being nice to such women: treat them as they would treat men. Press the police for a crime data reference (in the UK 'a crime number') to ensure they log it and at least think about whether to take action against her.
/r/MensRights30/05/22 05:03 PM
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Link to complain: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])
/r/MensRights30/05/22 04:59 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20220530164843/https://www.marriage.com/advice/mental-health/how-to-deal-with-an-emotionally-unstable-partner/
/r/MensRights30/05/22 04:57 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20220530164843/https://www.marriage.com/advice/mental-health/how-to-deal-with-an-emotionally-unstable-partner/
/r/MensRights30/05/22 04:57 PM
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That's already happening, particularly in the West. Even across the globe, the marriage decline is speeding up as cultural Marxism is promoted from the United Nations downwards.
/r/MensRights30/05/22 04:55 PM
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Thank you for posting that. The OP should have referenced it. I have now put it into the Wayback Machine, for context in case the site owners are convinced to stop their disgustingly harmful sexism against men. https://web.archive.org/web/20220530164843/https://www.marriage.com/advice/mental-health/how-to-deal-with-an-emotionally-unstable-partner/
/r/MensRights30/05/22 04:51 PM
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Men are good
/r/MensRights13/02/22 04:25 PM
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Don't be silent. Don't be an arsehole either: you might be wrong. But when something is a matter of opinion or you are sure of your facts, speak up. Bear in mind that you never convince anyone by arguing with them. Nobody changes their mind on something big (i.e. bigger than "is that lion coming my way?") in an instant. The best way to convince someone is for them to look into things themselves and discover their own way of accepting the knowledge the uncover and how that fits with other things …
/r/MenSupportMen13/02/22 04:03 PM
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The survey starts with these words (my highlight): You are invited to participate in this online research survey entitled “Possible gender differences in the level of perceived social support in couples who are experiencing issues with infertility.” You are included in this survey because you have been experiencing issues with infertility.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 03:40 PM
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Be aware that the police do not progress with a lot of crime (of all types) not because they don't think there was a crime but because they are unable to gather enough evidence for a conviction. For data on rape/sexual assault in the UK, I recommend the Illustrated Empathy Gap. “Existing research showed that juries convict in rape cases more often than they acquit, Thomas explained. The jury conviction rate in rape cases is higher than it is for other serious crimes such as attempted murder, gri…
/r/MensRights09/02/22 01:15 PM
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Well done for speaking up and thank you. I think it is true of a lot of trauma: it doesn't help to blow it up, any more than it helps to completely bury it and pretend it didn't happen. Decades ago I read something from a WW1 veteran who had lost a limb and much of his face: even he was saying the same thing – that a certain level of social help and assistance was appropriate but one day a year to mourn his fallen friends and his own lost "if only" was quite enough. Stay strong and weep when you…
/r/MensRights09/02/22 01:04 PM
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The main times when a rape is not evident until later would be when a drug (such as alcohol) is used. The problem there is that some young women will deliberately get drunk to lower their own inhibitions, to have sex. Perhaps a man fucking such a woman is stupid but I don't think he should be criminalised just because he's going along with her intention.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 12:53 PM
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The presumption of innocence—even in those countries where it used to be statndard—is being eroded around the world on rape and on assault of women generally.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 12:50 PM
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Humanity doesn't need people so badly that we need artificial wombs. I don't think that artificial wombs offer human evolution anything.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 02:58 PM
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That happenns. It's particularly noticeable with US news websites.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:44 PM
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They still exist around the world. Across Europe, there have been many challenges to them and most countries now make it difficult to have special times when women get subsidised drinks. The last success I heard of was in Eastern Europe, where a group of MRA activists used the stupid trans-gender laws to walk into bars (beards and all) and declare themselves as a woman. Eventually, that ended up being taken up by politicians who realised that it couldn't work, so passed a clumsy local law bannin…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:39 PM
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Rick is always good to listen to. He's an intellectual thinker who manages to bring himself down a couple of levels to talk to simple folk like me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 09:42 PM
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I did not mean to imply that right wing is authoritarian. Right wing is a political belief, mostly based around economics. Since I didn't even use the word 'authoritarian' I don't know what you are suggesting I call the 'woke authoritarian left' but when I said "'woke' right" of UK politics, I meant those elements of right-wing politics (mostly in the Conservative Party) that are going along with, and even propagating, the 'woke' message.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 04:50 PM
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I wouldn't say that J4MB is especially right-wing, though its leader's personal politics is. Supporters come in from all aspects of the left/right dichotomy. The party is going to be relaunched soon to appeal to a wider audience, concentrating on the children and family aspects of the old manifesto. In doing so, it is publicly challenging both left (Labour) and right (Conservative) parties and will be taking votes from both. Men's and boys' issues, along with wider family matters, cover both the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/22 04:43 PM
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Oh I will. Have a good 2022 and do try to actually do something for men.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 01:45 AM
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Right, so you are just a lazy-arsed keyboard warrior who doesn't know a fig about what is going on in the men's rights movement because you're not even a part of it. Come back and talk to us when you are ready to play your part. I won't bother with you until then.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 01:44 AM
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So you got nothing, absolutely nothing. Which is... ..what appears to be between your ears. Which is probably why it never occurred to you to do anything on behalf of men, unless that's just cowardice.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 01:33 AM
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https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/internet-searching.htm
/r/MensRights27/12/21 07:00 AM
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Two responses: You consider a movement that is supported by less than 10% of the population in any nation in the world "successful"? I will accept your point that feminism has gained whatever success largely by doing that, though. The very last thing anyone in the men's rights movement should be trying to do is copy the feminist movement but just reversing the sexes. That will achieve feminism's ultimate purpose of breaking apart society even more quickly, and can never lead to a worthwhile soci…
/r/MensRights27/12/21 06:58 AM
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It's your claim, either you back it or you don't. It's your request for evidence, which I have wasted my time on so far, asking you which men's group you are a part of so that I can illustrate my point. If you aren't even a member of a men's group, well, you wouldn't know and I can't very easily point it out to you, can I.
/r/MensRights27/12/21 06:45 AM
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If men alone can solve a problem, then men alone are probably causing the problem. We are talking about International Men's Day and the theme of encouraging better relaitonships between men and women. I fail to see what "If men alone can solve a problem…" has anything to do with the topic in hand. It is an interesting thought, though. It's like global warming. Either the entire world works together, or nothing can be done. I think you are showing exactly the thinking behind wanting better relati…
/r/MensRights25/12/21 07:14 PM
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Show me this upsurge. I need to know your reference point. That's why I asked: What men's group are you part of? Because only then could I illustrate such a thing.
/r/MensRights25/12/21 06:44 PM
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If you can find any evidence that prisons were created for men, I'd be interested in it. Similarly, if you can find anything that proves that prisons are bad for women but not equally bad for men, I'd be interested. From what I recall of the Corston Report (I've not read it for a few years) it put forward no proof, no foundation for any of its misandry. Just the usual feminist crap.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 04:40 PM
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It's strange but that's what the left says of the right. Having looked at left- and right-wing governments and how they behave I'm not convinced that it is a left/right thing at all. Woke-ism, like feminism, seems to have infected people right across the political spectrum.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 04:35 PM
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Why they don't just say "someone with mental health problems who should have received proper treatment long before now" is a little confusing. But we seem to live in a society where (almost) any peccadillo is just a personal form of expression and to be celebrated more than denounced, encouraged rather than pitied. Until some almost arbitrary barrier, which shifts year by year, is crossed and then the public spends a lot more money in a punitive 'justice' system instead of helping people to live…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 03:12 PM
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You are assuming that you have to be guilty to be accused. That is a false assumption and the level of your guilt or innocence is only one factor in the likelihood of you being found guilty, not the divisive line we might all wish it to be.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 03:05 PM
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In Scotland, 'self identification' and a few pounds is all it takes. The rest of the UK backed away from self-identification, at least for now, and (unfortunately, I feel) might never go there, as the problems are becoming obvious even to the 'woke' right, who seem to be the main proponents of it. Even so, there are corners of legislation where it is becoming a problem for the authorities. The reason I would welcome self-identification is precisely because of what you mention: every man could le…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 03:02 PM
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I keep meaning to look into this in more detail. What I have found is that inmates raping in prison does not seem to be such the big thing as it is in countries like the USA, where the public joke about it (that is the real 'rape culture' in America and what that phrase was coined for). In UK prisons, if anything there is a 'problem' of men self-policing other inmates and harshly dealing with any rapist, whether one convicted or one who tries it on inside. What evidence I have discovered, is tha…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:52 PM
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To be precise, men don't get a phone credit to call their children, while the taxpayer is funding women to do so. Also, women's behaviour in prison does not affect their child visitations; they can be violent, abusive thugs and still get time with children. Men have to earn time with family by being on good behaviour, some of which is affected by a prison warder's word alone, meaning a prison warder can falsely accuse a prisoner and affect his rights to see his child. Is it any wonder that priso…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:42 PM
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It's getting worse. There is a sizeable group in the UN now that want to define a parent stopping their children from accessing porn as a form of parental abuse. This is the kind of thing that ends up filtering down to countries within a few years.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:36 PM
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It seems to be commonly recognised that at least 80% of people in prison have mental health issues that are at least a part of what led them to become criminal in the first place. (And I've heard a quip that the other 20% are probably innocent.) I'm all for sorting out the root problems of people so that they can be a healthy part in society but unfortunately, I suspect that would not be applied to the majority of inmates, but only be applied to the 5% who are female.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:33 PM
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How do you know this is anything to do with the left?
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:28 PM
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That's what is already being said. The Corston Report effectively said just that: the prison sytem was invented for men (so it was claimed, without a scrap of evidence – both men and women have been 'thrown in the dungeons for a long time before prisons came a long). Since the prison service is something for men, the influential report said, it is therefore unsuitable for women (again, no evidence). The movement towards not having any of the murderers, child molesters, drug pedlars and fraudster…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:26 PM
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It's not about improving conditions of men's prisons, though that would certainly help (such as allowing men the same rights as women to make telephone calls to their children). What is FAR more important, and is a more pertinent reason for changing sex in the legal system, is that men are imprisoned on average seven times longer than females for the exact same crime. I think any legal counsel to men should be making this clear to a male client since it is very clearly in his interest to be proc…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:21 PM
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You can't support men by throwing women in an abyss, any more than feminism is being successful at supporting women by throwing men into an abyss. Men and women are not (or at least, should not be) in combat. We are symbiotic and reliant one upon the other. Most women realise that feminism does not speak for them. Would you really push those women into feminism's arms by being such a foul man as to want to destroy them, and therefore destroy society? Who needs feminism when there are people like…
/r/MensRights23/12/21 02:11 PM
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In what way does what imply that men are the problem and they they need to fix their behavior somehow? No one thing will make a difference to the legal power dynamic that disadvantages men. It would be infantile to imagine that that is going to change because of a one-minute video that isn't even attempting to do so! When you ate breakfast, did that make a difference to the legal power dynamic that disadvantages men? Does that make a difference as to whether your breakfast was worthwhile? There …
/r/MensRights22/12/21 06:05 PM
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It's looking like you and I are rare non-misogynists on this group. I'm glad that this isn't the place where men's rights issues are really being dealt with.
/r/MensRights22/12/21 05:59 PM
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Show you what? What men's group are you part of?
/r/MensRights22/12/21 05:57 PM
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You might need to understand that IMD is not a top-down hierarchical organisation. So "they" simply discuss with other men's rights activists about what might be a good theme for forthcoming IMD (usually about 18 months ahead), then go ahead and promote that theme. It is up to organisations around the world to pick up that theme (if they want, they could just go with the general concept of the IMD) and utilise it. Guidance was issued and made available, as those active on men's rights would be a…
/r/MensRights22/12/21 05:54 PM
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I am fascinated by the down-votes on what I said, without one single person able to refute what I stated. Do people here really think that progress is going to be made on men's rights by making up lies and spreading misinformation? Perhaps they would feel more comfortable going over to a feminist forum.
/r/MensRights22/12/21 05:49 PM
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Have a think about whether changing your legal identity will affect how you view yourself. If you are a runner and tell yourself every day "I am slow" you are unlikely to win races. If you are a man and tell yourself every day "I am a woman" .. But if you feel solid about who you are, and have a couple of good friends to talk to who can help you stay steady, I'd say to go for it. You will get all those female privileges and have little to lose but your sanity. And if you're going to university, …
/r/MensRights21/12/21 10:36 PM
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Why? Relationships are what is uppermost in the minds of most men, even in most MRAs, judging by the topics raised.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 10:27 PM
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It's a pity you couldn't be bothered to actually watch the video before making a fool of yourself with statements that anyone can see are not true.
/r/MensRights21/12/21 10:26 PM
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There's a different theme each year and for this year it was in better relationships between men and women, which is very much an anti-feminist message and one that can only help women to realise that men are not 'the enemy'. Men's groups around the world have had an upsurge in women joining and non-feminist women's rights groups working with us for common purpose. Supporting men is not about putting women down. Most men live with a woman: let's by all means reverse the feminist divisive message…
/r/MensRights21/12/21 10:24 PM
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In asking that question you imply you trust the laws in a feminist democracy. Really? Do you trust the impartiality of laws in a Western democracy?
/r/MensRights21/12/21 12:20 AM
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You have to be wary of claims about countries being "most egalitarian" or "most gender equal". The statistics used are usually skewed to whatever the organisation promoting them wants people to believe. For examples: is it more egalitarian to have a high tax and state-funded society, or more egalitarian to have everyone paid the same and have to live with it; is eqaulity only defined by female disadvantage, or by disadvantages experienced by both sexes? For some understanding of the GGGR, as an …
/r/MensRights21/12/21 12:12 AM
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And you make that comment because..?
/r/MensRights20/12/21 11:59 PM
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How could you ever guarantee that anything you ever pay for will effect your country. Good grief. £20 for 6½ days, organised by people around the world. You are just making excuses not to be involved in the main MRM international event of the year.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 04:32 AM
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It's not a meeting it is a 6½ day conference. It takes a massive amount of effort to put together a global meeting like this. The software licence alone is huge, let alone simple things like the cost of telephone calls around the world. And you grumble about helping out by paying an amount that many people charge for half a day? The attack on men's rights is incredibly expensive to you. Fighting back takes at least a little money. Shame on you for wanting others to provide everything for free ou…
/r/MensRights18/12/21 04:47 AM
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In the UK, I have recently been pointing out to people that left, right (though I don't see it as being particularly right, other than in economics) and centre parties are all anti-male, pro-feminist. The first party to swing to being pro-society, and supportive of men will have a landslide victory. Men's rights are not really a left or a right wing thing and it does not help to position it as such, which removes roughly half of all men. Rights are denied to men regardless of their politics and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/21 12:04 AM
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It will take more than just time. It needs constant reinforcement of the anti-feminist, pro-society message from we who understand these things out to the wider public and political body.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/21 11:56 PM
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Ahh, your misandry, ignorance and stupidy shines through. Keep talking if it helps you get better.
/r/MensRights16/12/21 03:34 AM
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Oh great! It is such fun to read your attempts to turn yourself into a victim and paint me as some ogre despite all the evidence. Oh, you are so funny. Seriously, though, you really should seek psychological help.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 02:15 PM
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Stick around and you'll find out just how far ahead they are with their hateful ideology and how much they have influenced laws and policies that have affected our daily lives for several decades, preventing men and children from getting proper recognition for their rights and needs. See you at the ICMI, I hope!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/21 01:30 AM
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Oh, you are fun with your strawmen and idiot idelogical phrases. I hope you get a brain soon. But not too soon because you really are making me laugh.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 01:23 AM
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[feminism]…has become one step away from being a misandrist hate movement. A step after being a misandrist hate movement, I take it you mean? They passed that barrier at least two decades ago. For a long time, teaching of mainstream feminism has included the writings of people like Andrea Dworkin (when talking of men: "How can anyone love someone who is less than a full person"), Valerie Solanas (who published the formal SCUM Manifesto, though there are other versions), and Robin Morgan ("I feel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/21 04:39 PM
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Oh, you're not going already, are you? Just when I was having a laugh, too.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:19 PM
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Keep at it. You are doing quite well at showing readers the resistance to men & children having their human rights and social dignities. You're also giving me something to laugh at.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 04:17 PM
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One of the continuing problems caused by new people brushing by the men's movement every day is that they don't realise how long the fight has been going on. How many people they will never know of have put in hundreds, sometimes thousands of hours of their free time to help men, families and children. We owe so much to so many people. Having done a little research into the this (as an amateur historian only) am firmly convinced that were it not for those who came before us, men would not now be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/21 12:43 PM
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Oh, another of your stupid posts attempting to insult someone. Your hate speech is recognised as such but is so idiotic I can only pity you. I hope you get help soon.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 12:16 PM
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I can't spend all my time educating you. Do some reading, even come to the International Conference on Men's Issues: you'd learn a lot there. You are free (thanks to the hard work of a lot of people) to assume what you like about me and my views. Jumping to wild and unfounded conclusions is entirely your affair and I won't engage with them.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 12:14 PM
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This is the seventh conference. You can access all (most?) of the previous speeches on through a page here. Not every speaker is a men's rights activist. Some make it clear they are not. Issues discussed genuinely discuss men's concerns, though not always about what it strictly a 'right'. Some speakers each year will open up new ground, things the men's rights movement isn't talking about (yet). Many speakers do not talk about feminism, some almost exclusively do. People attending (this used to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/21 12:07 PM
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But you can afford an internet connection and a computer or phone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/21 11:45 AM
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It's not hopeless, Tim. It's just going to take a long time to fix, as you know. You're doing good work, never despair. When you see the crap, just use it to remind yourself why you are an MRA and motivate you. If the crap weren't there, we could pack up and do something really useful to move society forward instead of just healing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 05:35 PM
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Thank you for that. I'm not sure I've ever used the phrase 'male privilege' but I'll be sure to look out for it coming from my fingertips! I'm sorry to stain the good thinking and effort behind this graphic but when I first looked at it, I thought you were indicating that there was not just one privilege that men had but many of them. So while this presentation is good for convincing the men's movement to change its language (because 'male privileges' is better in a sentence than 'male privilege…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 05:28 PM
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You got it! Just have a look at how many times they mention 'boy' here compared to 'girl'. This is not just a report on why boys are dying, this is a reason why they are dying: United Nations - YouthStats: Health (If you're attending this year's virtual ICMI make a point of listening to my speech, where I explain more about the United Nations.)
/r/MensRights10/12/21 05:08 PM
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I am both surprised that this is news and that of all people the Guardian posted it. They will rarely cover anything that shows men at a disadvantage (they'd have a lot more news if they did). Globally, around 52% of births are male. Globally, by about mid-teens, the numbers of each sex are about the same. From that point on, men keep dying off at a greater rate than women. In many more-developed nations, the equalisation point gets older, even well past the teens but this is not consistent. The…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 04:59 PM
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Being seen as what you are is not a privilege. Nothing earned is a privilege. So being seen as more competent, when you are more competent, is not a privilege. Nor is being seen as less violent, if you are less violent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 04:43 PM
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Apparently the conference software – Whova – is incredible. It turns a virtual conference into as much like the real thing as possible, even with the ability to meet other attendees ad-hoc. That's where almost all the cost has gone into and for 6½ days with dozens of speakers, it's a steal.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 02:56 AM
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It is a virtual event, the only fire alarms you'll hear will be in your own home :-)
/r/MensRights10/12/21 02:53 AM
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Hold on, hold on. You don't seem aware that in 1985 the UN announced itself as a feminist organisation. It is not me who decides if the United Nations is a feminist body. They say so themselves. And they act like one. Now do you see why I ask 'If the united nations doesn't make the cut, what is a feminist organization?' A feminist organization is not any organization that states facts which are sometimes conducive to a feminist worldview. Absolutely agree. There's be very few governments, for on…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 02:49 AM
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As technology advances will the abortion cut off move earlier and earlier? For me as much as this is an ethical question the practical reality does influence things. I'm not sure I've ever read such a statement. Kudos to you. It is in full keeping with a stance taken on viability. Of course, it does mean that if someone wants an abortion, they just need to go somewhere too poor or too inexperienced to keep the baby alive. But nothing's ever perfect. While killing should seem the ultimate moral e…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 02:29 AM
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I've sent a chat message.
/r/MensRights10/12/21 01:39 AM
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If you think abortion is acceptable in the case of rape all the arguments about the right of the child have gone out the window - suddenly it is the mothers decision based on her life experiences. Quite so. It is a conundrum for the anti-abortionist. One to help them really think about what their moral stance is and why. It's one reason I think discussion should not only centre around "is it life" but "is it life with a right to live". Oddly, it seems to me that anti-abortionist women are more r…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 01:03 AM
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The facts are all around you, yet you wonder which rights men don't have?! I'm astonished. I think u/StudentOfTheTruth0 has given a good answer and I'll just add to that the headings from the manifesto for Justice for Men and Boys, a British political party. "In December 2014 we were pleased to present our 2015 general election manifesto. It explores 20 areas where the human rights of men and boys are assaulted by the state’s actions and inactions, almost always to privilege women and girls. The…
/r/MensRights09/12/21 06:38 PM
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An excellent response to an idiot that not only can't see what life is like around them but can't even be bothered to do a simple search on the Internet. ​ I'm assuming this is a boilerplate text you have (I'm copying it!) so make some comments in the spirit of trying to improve it. unlike women, men don't have the right to be protected from false accusations I'm curious on this one. In much of Europe and elsewhere, women are equally unprotected from false allegation, though they are not so stig…
/r/MensRights09/12/21 06:27 PM
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Perhaps you could manage to talk out of your mouth, it might help. You speak either in total ignorance, or in full knowledge that men's groups over the decades have done an enormous amount (I doubt we would even be allowed to have this conversation if it were not for such as they) and you wish men's human rights to be further trampled into the ground, society crushed, anarchy unleashed, all in the name of some idiotic 'utopia' that no-one have ever managed to achieve.
/r/MensRights09/12/21 04:26 PM
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Consider a moderate lump for the International Conference on Men's Issues, donated to be used as a reserve fund. Every year, individuals put their own money to back it which inevitably restricts just how big it can get. The man to contact who is responsible for setting up future conferences in north America is Chris Votey.
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:42 PM
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I had no idea that was there! May I suggest a link from your homepage. I have a small database of organisations I can contribute, and could tap into resources to get more. If you let me know the content and format you need, I will readily start supplying data BUT if you want me to do the de-duplication you will obviously need to send me your contemporary data each time.
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:33 PM
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I did not know of your project before. It sounds wonderful. Is there any chance of you expanding to cover the globe? If you are willing to consider it, I have a small database of men's bodies around the world and could tap into a lot more information for such a venture. I am also capable of taking a share in preparing and formatting the data suitable for upload, which I presume is the bit that takes time.
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:19 PM
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I don't think any organisation should be expected to be perfect. As to negative comments about men's associations, they abound and are always easy to find, regardless of truth or justification. All you can do there is consider whether IF true, it is enough to stop you wanting to support them, and if so, dig in to check the facts for yourself.
/r/MensRights09/12/21 03:14 PM
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Its the fetuses right to life prevailed over the "right" to get an abortion, not men's "right" to autonomy over someone else's body. If the fetus has a right to life equivalent to everybody else's right to life then everyone has the right to protect that fetus, even from the mother. The pregnant woman gain authority over its life only if the fetus has no right to life (including not being recognised as having life). ​ When it is illegal no matter what either parent thinks the woman faces more co…
/r/MensRights09/12/21 02:22 PM
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I think you are asking an unnecessary question. Do you not accept that if an organisation declares itself to be feminist, and puts feminist policies into action, that it is a feminist organisation. If the united nations doesn't make the cut, what is a feminist organization?
/r/MensRights09/12/21 01:39 PM
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Thank you for your response. I think we may be getting somewhere, though we clearly still disagree. That's not me twisting the meaning' you are doing that by expanding it to the father and fetus. I did not mean to imply that you were twisting a meaning. My point is that the very phrase 'pro choice' invented by feminists is a twisted meaning. Nobody would say that an absolute monarchy is 'pro choice' because one person is able to make unilateral decisions for a country regardless of everybody els…
/r/MensRights09/12/21 01:23 PM
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You call that a pro-choice. Not only that, you call it "completely pro-choice". I'm aware of the twisting of a label to mean the opposite of what it is: that "pro-choice" is really 'no choice for either the father or the child'. But you even go further than that. So are you one of those who believes it acceptable to birth the child, then at the mother's discretion only, let it die (what the world is beginning to call a "New York abortion"). And do you go further, that it is right for the mother …
/r/MensRights08/12/21 10:37 PM
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But do you see a benefit in having people speak up against it? Or would you rather censor debate even at the outset, even in a men's conference. Surely the men's movement can do better than that?!
/r/MensRights08/12/21 10:27 PM
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As someone who has tried to both work for everyone and work specifically for men, I can assure you that feminist organisations, often ultimately paid from people's taxes, do indeed complain, disrupt, and outright prevent much useful work that could be made on behalf of men. If it were Antifa doing it, I'd call them out. If it were ISIS or the green party or the humpty-dumpty club, I'd say so. I will not be censored just because feminists don't like me to speak the truth. Don't try it on me. I'd …
/r/MensRights08/12/21 10:21 PM
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No, I don't think so. It depends on what way you are considering reliability. On the whole, I consider it a fairly reliable feminist organisation.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 10:15 PM
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At this point, I don't think the issue is even about abortion. The real issue the OP opens up is whether there is any topic that is not permissible at the ICMI. I sincerely hope not and so far we have heard a wide range of views on a wide range of topics. I would not like to see censorship creep in to the men's movement.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 10:13 PM
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I think there are all sorts of very good and healthy reasons for openness of speech at the world's premier conference on men's issues. That some here want to censor people even talking about their views saddens me.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 10:10 PM
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So, not seeing that it has anything to do with men's rights, you think that nobody should try explaining why they think it is a men's rights issue? The biggest men's march in the USA I'm aware of in the past decade was about abortion. I think there has to be something to it, don't you. I look forward to seeing you at this year's ICMI to discuss it after we've heard what they have to say.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:58 PM
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It sounds like you are in favour of discussion, then. I look forward to seeing you at this year's ICMI to discuss such things.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:55 PM
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I don't see a benefit in banning Abortion. But do you see a benefit in having people speak up against it? Or would you rather censor debate even at the outset, even in a men's conference. Surely the men's movement can do better than that?!
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:53 PM
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I hope that you, like me, will be attending (less that $40 for 6½ days - it's a steal!) and then we can hear the arguments put forward and decide. If the arguments aren't made, we might forever be in the dark on the matter.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:51 PM
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That's not the point. The point is: is it acceptable to be presenting the other side of the argument to the normal one, in a conference on men's issues, or should such views be censored and men holding those views not represented?
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:48 PM
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Absolutely. A lot of this thread has turned into a debate on abortion. What the OP is about is whether someone's anti-abortion stance is permissible to be talked about at the International Conference on Men's Issues. If anyone thinks abortion is not a men's issue, go talk to a man who has discovered (it is usually after the fact) that he has had one of his offspring legally killed. The very fact that threads about abortion pop up every now and then in men's forums clearly shows that it is someth…
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:47 PM
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I'm glad you say 'completely' pro-choice. I take it that means you want all people to have a choice: mother, father and child.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:42 PM
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Knowing Mike, if someone came to him with an argument that the world hasn't heard a million times already for why abortion is acceptable, or why supporting abortion is not a men's issue, he'd give the speaker a platform. Perhaps you should start doing your research now, and present it to him by June next year. The International Conference on Men's Issues is a conference, not a mandate, not even a manifesto. People put forward ideas. If you've been paying attention to the ones so far, you will kn…
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:40 PM
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…the men’s movement would accomplish more if they would stay away from controversial issues … Well! No wonder the men's rights movement is struggling to grow properly! People with thoughts like yours are packing their bags before we even get going. Become an activist. In any area of men's rights. Then tell us what you have found that is not controversial.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:30 PM
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Lacking [a healthy, stable family], it's often best to delay [a child's] coming out in life. Please do expand on this. Are you suggesting that a woman can change her pregnancy to last longer?
/r/MensRights08/12/21 09:27 PM
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No problem. Get in touch with me if you need any specific guidance or help. Local things are often easiest to discover by local people but sometimes it's just a matter of knowing the language used and what the usual pitfalls are, so I really don't mind helping if you are putting in the effort.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 07:19 PM
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Looking into documentation from the source countries helps. A lot of the people being trafficked are from North Africa, the Middle East and eastern Europe. That means scouring for documents often written in French, Arabic or Russian. Don't rely on feminist sources like the United Nations.
/r/MensRights08/12/21 02:45 PM
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Women in peril get more clicks Or to put that more broadly, both men and women care most about women, next about girls, then for boys and men come bottom of the pile for empathy and care. No man ever went off to war to save his fellow man. Many went to war to save women, even those in foreign countries. It is up to each of us to work on our own instincts and beliefs and put men's care equal to that of women's (just down from children, I also believe). We aren't cavemen anymore and need to overco…
/r/MensRights08/12/21 02:42 PM
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…it's just a mostly female problem. Quite apart that only feminist sources seem to agree with that.. Is this why men and only men are getting attention on suicides? Is this why men and only men are getting attention for the homeless? Is this why men and only men are getting attention for workplace injuries? Is this why men and only men are getting attention for their general health and longevity? Perhaps I'm showing my left-wing side here, but I believe society should not be determining who gets…
/r/MensRights08/12/21 02:35 PM
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I looked into this aspect of human rights a few years ago. My initial thrust was from caring about women, which was the big news even then, though having understood how the narrative on stoning and whipping was slanted, I was already alert to what I might find. After much digging, I came across reports of huge numbers of 'disappeared' young men, particularly, and boys as well as women and girls. Even then, it took some getting to, though. I recall relying heavily on the early availability of onl…
/r/MensRights08/12/21 02:17 PM
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Well said. I think your experiences are those of many men around the world, too.
/r/MensRights07/12/21 05:15 PM
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sex trafficking … Exact numbers can be hard to find. This number also includes force[d] marriage. {User mycatlies} Beware of accepting the notion of 'forced marriage' into the issue of modern slavery or even into the issue of human trafficking. It is a slippery slope. I write not to tell you where to stop on that slope, only to make you aware of it. At one extreme, is a boy or girl taken forcibly from their home and sold to an elderly man or woman in a foreign country. Even if they could physica…
/r/MensRights07/12/21 04:58 PM
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My only argument with this post is the focus on sex trafficking and not the broader human trafficking Yes, that is often a failing. Sex trafficking is what the media can get attention with (as with anything that has 'sex' in the headline) but in reality it is a minor part of the entire area of modern and contemporary slavery experienced by all countries in the world. By the way, do you realise that you would have stopped most readers in this forum from reading even through your first paragraph? …
/r/MensRights07/12/21 04:25 PM
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It depends on your available time, knowledge level and how far up the ladder you feel comfortable putting pressure on people. If you live in a city, check their policies for dealing with trafficked persons (possibly a policy called 'modern slavery'), see if those are sex-neutral and then dig in to see if a sex-neutral policy is being applied with neutrality. Similar to state/nation. If you want to get involved at an international level, drop me a PM. r/MRActivism may generally be a better place …
/r/MensRights07/12/21 04:14 PM
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As horrible as it is for the individuals concerned, I think you are right: sex trafficking affects such a small number of people (well under the number of suicides each month, probably less than the number of suicides per week in most countries) that it is a 'minor' issue. One reason for concentrating on them is not only "what about men" (which is a dodgy start) but because if we can get empathy for those men, maybe we can spread that same empathy to others, too. There is another aspect to why m…
/r/MensRights07/12/21 04:08 PM
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Starting back in the 1960s/70s, feminists did a very clever thing. (It was actually thought through and written up by a bunch of guys in what is called the Frankfurt School, but I won't go into that here.) They encouraged women's and girl's literacy, which was already high. They raised money and funded feminists (mostly but not only women) to study journalism at universities. They also started up quite a lot of feminist journals and magazines which engaged feminist just out of university to help…
/r/MensRights01/12/21 10:53 PM
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And if the dead man doesn't defend himself, that's just proof of his guilt. Hey, this is almost like 'Family Court'!
/r/MensRights01/12/21 12:18 AM
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Indeed, there are many reasons for treating men so much more harshly and locking them up and none of them have anything to do with curbing crime.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 12:07 AM
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I agree with a lot of what you write but I think you are mistaken in thinking the future is female supremacy. The future they are aiming for is feminist supremacy. Women will come to understand – as they are already beginning to do – that feminism does not represent their needs. That is one reason more and more women are drifting to the men's movement: women have no voice for their needs, because everyone assumes that feminism speaks for them, whereas the men's movement actually represents most …
/r/MensRights30/11/21 11:54 PM
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I remember from when I was young thinking that the stupidity of believing that one sex has been abusing the other through history so ridiculous that nobody could take feminism seriously. I mean, just think about it: why the hell would women have had babies with men they didn't like, who weren't willing to support them through pregnancy and early childhood? If the feminist nonsense was right, the human race would have died out before it even got going.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 11:43 PM
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I think I've been hugged by a man once in my life, when I turned up at his door because he was giving me shelter after my divorce. That meant so much to me but even after many years, he feels uncomfortable about it. The first thing we have to do is lose the homophobia. I'm not saying become homosexual, or bisexual. All I'm thinking is that it is fear of having our sexuality mistaken (by women, ultimately) is one thing that stops men being closer.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 11:39 PM
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Oh boy, so much to unpack here. I think men will be more inclined to think not of men's rights, but, of "sorting out relations between the sexes". This is recognised in general. You might have noticed that this year's International Men's Day theme was on making the relationship between men and women better. Personally, I don't think it possible without giving men a reason to care about women other than as the sex objects that feminism turned them into, by removing anything else of interest. For …
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:55 PM
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Unfortunately, I think you've still fallen into the feminist trap. Think on it: why does it matter that women suffer more xyz than men? Why not worry about whether left-handed people suffer more? Why not worry about whether people under 5'5" suffer more? In almost every case you can think of, being the minority victim, or the minority cause, makes no difference at all. We are all people. (It is to stop this kind of seditious thinking that the United Nations pretends that domestic violence is not…
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:31 PM
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Thank you so much for that. I've read it but need to read your words a few more times. The only aspect I'll address at this point is about this theme that men's rights activists appear to follow feminism. That's an incredibly tough one. In some ways, I think you might be right with a minor part of the men's movement but the reality is not as you perceive, though I do not deny your perception and can understand how you (and many of the general public) come by it. Let's look at genital mutilation.…
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:21 PM
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That's true of course but at least the target would be a known military target, even though there would be 'collateral damage'. Blanket shelling, like blanket bombing, occurred during WW2 but the basis behind that was that there was total war – an semi-legal concept – which meant that every national of the enemy state was an enemy. And that remains controversial to this day. With drone strikes, there is not total war. Indeed, there often isn't a war at all in the legal definition! Further, what …
/r/MensRights29/11/21 05:50 PM
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There used to be a common acceptance (presumably based in treaty but I don't know) that a combatant was someone in uniform, and someone in uniform was a combatant. That works when one wealthy nation's army is fighting another's. In the days of civilian terrorism and poorer countries getting arms ahead of bothering about uniforms, it breaks down. Few of the multiple military factions in Syria, for example, wear uniform: so long as you know where your lot are, you just go and shoot at one of the o…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 05:40 PM
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A well written explanation. As a long-time MRA now too far from what brought me into the movement, it helps me to understand the view of those men who are not jumping up and down over the gross injustices and clear discrimination. If it helps, I accept your apology and understand your hurt. And I hope you will now start learning and asking yourself what you can do about this. Also, I would be interested in how you think the MRM could put across the message to the public in a way that they 'get i…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 05:20 PM
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I'm lost at paragraph 2. What sections of what are you talking about, please? The issue of whether a media platform should be compelled to carry information is a difficult one, as is the matter of whether they are a media publisher (liable for content) or platform enabler (the content is down to whomever posts using it). Currently, they are are dodging around between these two concepts, which is an issue. If they are not liable, then they should not be censoring, since that determines content. I…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 04:58 PM
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I don't know about the USA. In the UK, it was a right-wing coalition that made homosexuality distinctly legal (a socialist party had gone part of the way). On marriage, is was again a right-wing party that made homosexual marriage possible. In the USA, it was the supreme court at the beginning of a right-wing government that did not overrule them. I'm not convinced that it is right or left that can claim general ascendancy in this area of human rights. They are both about as bad, and as good, as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 01:33 PM
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Your hatred is a little too clear. Perhaps trying to understand the other side's views would help you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 01:18 PM
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I think with domestic violence, the lack of knowledge depends only upon who the 'we' is that didn't know. The police and marital counsellors, for example, were always aware that domestic violence was not a simple matter, was not even about one victim and one perpetrator let alone having people fit those roles according to sex. Erin Pizzey, who set up the first domestic violence shelter for men brought the feminist terror upon her for stating that half of the women were as violent, if not more vi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 01:03 PM
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I think conservatives have a problem in this area. As an extreme stereotype, they want things to remain unchanged and don't want to alter society. Yet at the same time they support family values as these are the bedrock of a healthy society. So as change has already occurred, they are left with what precisely to conserve. Do they want the values of today (typical of the right wing in India, Australia and Britain) or do they want the values of society before feminism started screwing about with s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 12:51 PM
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There's no reason to generalize about ALL people I know that. It possibly surprises you that I am in almost complete agreement with you. Almost. The thing is, what you are talking about is reason and rationality. What I am describing is extreme emotional pain/angst/anger. (I don't know if you've ever been there; if not, I hope you are never treated so badly. If you've been there and stayed rational you are one in a thousand and I hope it's not just sunken emotion that will snap out of you later.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 12:00 PM
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If you can be brought to a position where you are just one of a group, then you individually don't count. To illustrate: think about cattle. If a single cow was right in front of you hurt and in pain, you'd feel sympathy and probably try to help, at least phoning up someone to come and help the poor creature. But unless you're a farmer or something, you never think of a cow, you only think of cows in plural. And you probably don't think or care about them very much. So by reducing you from an in…
/r/MensRights29/11/21 12:20 AM
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My point is that if you go down the street and randomly ask people if they know who x is, or what views x has about anything, the vast majority would have no idea of the names you mention. In some circles, like at the ICMI conference, then of course they are known and often known enough to be liked or not liked. And I agree that by the [English-speaking] movement's standards, Paul Elam is popular and certainly well known. But as much as he has broadened the base of the movement and stood as a fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/21 11:49 PM
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Sometimes (I don't say every time) feminism is getting justifiably blamed because it encourage women into an antisocial path. Women who have a bad instinct (and it is human to err, so this is all of us at some times) are encouraged by feminist policies to be hurtful to men and children. They are encouraged to kill their unborn child, encouraged to think badly of men, encouraged to divorce or dump their partner and yet still live off him, etc. etc. So, sometimes when a woman does something bad (l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/21 11:13 PM
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I just wish everyone could be so rational despite the raging hurt and anger generated within them. But burying such strong emotions is very harmful in the long term. I don't say 'everyone' blames all the opposite sex when hurt by one of them, but it is something that the vast majority of people will do, for a time. (If they are a woman an turn to the feminists, they are likely to keep on doing it, of course.) Even Chaucer, hundreds of years ago, included this tendency, so it's not like it is any…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/21 11:05 PM
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So what? Does your care for a victim depend upon who their assailant is? Do you not care about black people being attacked if the attacker is black? Do you not care about people under 5 foot tall being attacked if their attacker is under 5 foot tall? Do you not care about humans being attacked if their attacker is human? Why do you make such a comment?
/r/MensRights28/11/21 10:37 PM
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Perhaps the person who down-voted my comment knows enough to correct me? If not, learn before down-voting something just because you don't like it. On a forum like this, we can at least address the facts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:41 AM
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While not denying that statistic (yet: it is from UNWomen so I don't trust it, by default) I just want to point out that all seven ambassadors to the G7 are women. It has been hailed in some quarters are a great sign of equality.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 12:34 AM
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It doesn't matter what the truth is to such people. We could be Jusus Christ incarnate and they would lie and say we rape women. We really cannot and MUST not change our beliefs, attitudes or actions because of what a few nasty feminists have to say. It is not them we need to convince: they are too small a minority to care about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:29 AM
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The OP did say a conversation about the worst parts of men's advocacy…People with political sway or media notoriety. Paul Elam has no political sway and outside of a (large?) part of the English-speaking MRM and a smaller number of feminists, he is almost unknown.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:24 AM
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In one moment they say that homeless people are lazy, that the mentally ill need to get their shit together and that prisoners and criminals are the scum of society. In left/right terms, my politics are all over the place so I mix with right and left wingers. Those on the right I am aware of would consider views such as you state as, at best, 'far right' but they are most likely to give such views rather nastier names. Perhaps it depends on country to some extent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:21 AM
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You have to bear in mind that every day there are more men suddenly finding themselves on the rubbish tip of society. They are angry, upset, looking for answers, hoping for solutions. I'm sure most of us remember being there. It is inevitable that bursts of anti-woman, anti-government, anti-society discourse will spring up. It almost has to: as much as the feminists tell people the MRM breeds such people, what we actually do is calm them, give them explanations, try to focus them into practical …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:17 AM
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I hear you and tactically there is something to what you say. But we have to think about where such tactics lead. u/a-man-from-earth gave a good reply: we are not trying to mimic feminists but get rid of them. There are some feminist tactics we could adopt but it has to be carefully managed, which implies a better, more formal structure than we have at the moment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:11 AM
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I think this is a mistake. Regardless of politics, I think we must be willing to through our vote in favour of anyone who will stand up for men – and make it clear to all other electoral campaigners and candidates that our vote is going that way. All parties should be caring about men and boys. Until they are, we need to force them to think about everyone in society by losing them votes until they behave responsibly. If we keep voting for those who don't care about us, we can't really grumble th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:08 AM
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a conversation about the worst parts of men's advocacy…People with political sway or media notoriety. You are having a laugh, aren't you? There are – maybe – three people in the world who are – maybe – a part of the men's rights movement and who have anything like political sway. The media? You mean where feminists hang out, or the legacy media? The legacy media in most of the world don't report men's advocates or men's issues. India is the only slight variation from that (at least partly becaus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 12:04 AM
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It is currently offline. One of our projects for the new year it to put it back up on a dedicated url. I think that was the first entry for Belarus.
/r/MensRights25/11/21 09:27 PM
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Good for Dr. Kambhampati. As he says, the problem is that the 90% is allowing the more vocal 10% to dictate to them how to behave, what to think. The 90% must stand up against this, even though it is a distraction from everything else they want to get on with in their lives. We, here, need to be leading the way in the public sphere so that others will feel more able to follow our examples.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 01:57 PM
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Thank you. I have entered that into the Legal Discrimination Database.
/r/MensRights25/11/21 01:33 PM
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If women had a weaker immune system, do you think society—including yourself—would just shrug its shoulders and say 'tough luck' or would it protest that it needs even more unequal spending on health care for women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 02:48 PM
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do studies cross-culturally, and remove variables that would indicate a cultural influence They've been done. Look for them and read up. Broadly speaking, the upper socioeconomic groups have a lessor death gap, vanishing to negligible right at the top. This knocks the idea that an earlier death of men is natural. There is only one nation that has approximate equality in average age of death between men and women, and that is a nation which spends roughly equal (except for maternity issues) on me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 02:45 PM
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Either way, a measure of equality has to be subjective to some point. Men and women are not equal in producing children and never can be (I sincerely hope they never can be..). That inequality by itself is the root cause of most, if not all, inequality between men and women. Of course, just because two things (in this case men and women) are not equal does not mean that their needs are not being met, nor that there is oppression of one over the other. Perhaps it is fair that women have longer pa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 02:38 PM
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Thank you. Informative but I suggest you put your views elsewhere too. Wikipedia is not a forum where you should expect truth on such matters to remain on a page.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 02:26 PM
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You need not be a conspiracy nut to look deep enough to discover a conspiracy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 02:22 PM
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Yes, the spending gap is interesting isn't it. I have asked many people who think the wage gap is an issue this question: "Would you rather be the person who earns most, or the person who spends most?" You can always tell a 'true feminist' because they are the ones that want both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 12:49 PM
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I have always – long before this 'wage gap' stuff came up – thought it perfectly reasonable to consider commute time in how much a person is earning. Think of it: if you can get a job next door at $1000 or a similar job three hours away at $1001, which are you going to take? Of course, these are personal decisions, just like whether you want to work fixed hours in an air-conditioned office or take a higher-paid job repairing roads in all weather and working for as long as the job takes. So, when…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 12:47 PM
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Is r/mensrights sexist? In the old-fashioned sense of 'sexist', yes, because this is a forum specifically to address Male issues. That is, the issues experienced in general by one sex. In the feminist-driven incarnation of the meaning of sexist—showing prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, against women on the basis of sex—then absolutely not. In being willing to speak out against feminism, we are often speaking up for women as much as men, even though that may be a side issue. This is one…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 11:51 AM
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And yet r/MRActivism is so quiet..
/r/MensRights22/11/21 11:38 AM
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Well done. May I suggest you put in your diary now, for next August (because of the inevitable communication and publication delays) a follow-up letter. Also at that time contact the editor if you can and ask whether they would like a draft article submitted by you (I—an international MRA—and other MRAs can provide you with generic copy for you to turn into a more company-specific article, so don't worry if you don't feel up to the task).
/r/MensRights22/11/21 11:22 AM
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For a time I dated a woman who lived in a shared house. Initially they had four women but the arguments and continual problems of always looking to replace one who left meant they accepted a man in desperation. By agreement, he wasn't romantically or sexually involved with any of them but the entire house ran smoothly from the week he moved in.
/r/MensRights22/11/21 01:29 AM
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Look up the statistics for children who grew up without a father and you'll realise what's bad about this.
/r/MensRights22/11/21 01:23 AM
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…include laymen who wouldn’t even bother to dig beyond the surface… Yes that's the big problem. It's not even what I would call laymen. Most of our politicians will at most just read the conclusions of a report. More likely they will read the title, along with what someone says about a report. Even with laws they are voting on, most politicians have never read and understood what they are voting on. If you've ever tried going through a Bill, you'll know why: it can easily take 100 hours to fully…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/21 12:47 AM
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If that's how you have to frame it to the UN to get the UN to do anything, I don't really care. I like the way you are thinking and to some extent there is value in getting something done for the wrong motives. The problem is that too often the wrong motives will lead to the wrong action. Typically that shows up in this sort of instance in policies that, instead of addressing the male disadvantages, policies will simply ameliorate the imagined female disadvantages that are created from it. For e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 10:54 PM
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and "Global Gender Gap - Where men lag behind women,"…in an "Annual Gender Gap Report" Wishful thinking. This is a branch of the United Nations, the global feminist organisation. No way would such a concept get passed the censors unless you managed to pull off some real trick to get the looking the wrong way. No, what would happen even if you could get the study done is that the conclusion of the 'Where men lag behind women' report would state that women are the victims of men's disadvantage. If…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 08:56 PM
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Thank you for a polite ending. Much appreciated. I know it can be difficult to do. There seems to be very little evidence for how many people attempt to commit suicide, and how often. So little, in fact, that I suspect this is another one of those "feminist facts" that are repeated often enough until they appear to be the truth. I can find plenty of 'academic' reports stating that "women attempt suicide more often" or alternately that "more women attempt suicide" and giving references. But there…
/r/MensRights21/11/21 08:42 PM
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Sorry, but in practice that won't work. Even if there was parallel content showing men's disadvantages, with women's disadvantages being ignored, what would be published and attract attention would be the skewed version showing only what the current GGGR shows. The only way proper equality can be represented is by representing equality—or even parity—properly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 04:53 PM
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While I understand your emotion, I have to say that this is not the backbone of global misandry. This is just one symptom of global misandry formulated and spread through the United Nations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 04:16 PM
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William Collins did a good article on the Global Gender Gap Report some years ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 04:10 PM
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You assume its true because you want it to be. No, I am illustrating why it is INEVITABLY TRUE. Of course it won't be true in every single case. Some men may make two attempts, some women may make half a dozen attempts. Nobody has the exact statistics on every case. But if you can explain how this can be true, on average, any other way, do feel free to say so, instead of just throwing your toys out of the pram because you don't like an obvious conclusion from what you said: men are more succesfu…
/r/MensRights21/11/21 03:45 PM
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The International Conference on Men's Issues is coming up. It's a virtual conference this year and at the price, it's a steal. One of the speakers (guess who) talks about the United Nations.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 03:32 PM
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Mexico.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 03:23 PM
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Animal Farm is a wonderful book, being an acceptable face on what was emerging at the time, but it is fiction. Mostly, the reading isn't in books but in academic papers and sundry documents. For book reading on this area, I'm sure other members have thoughts. I recommend: Gramsci; James Joll The Frankfurt School and the Allure of Submission; Matt McManus Dialectic of Enlightenment; Theodore W Adorno The political gene : how Darwin's ideas changed politics; Dennis Sewell Their angry creed: The sh…
/r/MensRights21/11/21 03:22 PM
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OK, you're talking crap and not addressing the issue. Enough.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 02:58 PM
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Indeed and thank you for adding that; it is often something I say. I think one thing that will get many men properly stirred up in ways that they are not yet is when they realise that women and children are under threat. They might not care about other men, or even themselves, but will step up to protect women and children.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/21 02:55 PM
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Hey, at least they are realising they can't totally eradicate IMD. A few years back, the UN made IMD World Toilet Day. They don''t officially recognise IMD. First they ignore you Then they laugh at you Then you win
/r/MensRights21/11/21 03:17 AM
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Sure they do. The UN is the self-declared biggest global feminist movement (it is certainly the best funded). They well understand about systemic and systematic oppression: they put it into place very deliberately.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 03:10 AM
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And a lot more on top. Depending on country: Abortion Foetal alcohol syndrome Genital mutilation Fatherlessness, restoring strong families Education Employment Access to children after family breakdowns Domestic violence Sexual abuse Armed Forces veterans’ mental health issues Homelessness Suicide (#1 cause of death of men under 45 in the UK, in all age groups) Criminal justice system Paternity fraud Anonymity for suspected sexual offenders Divorce settlements Healthcare provision Political repr…
/r/MensRights21/11/21 03:08 AM
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Yes men are more succesfull at commiting suicide, although women attempt it three times more. Those are your words. I gave an illustration why the second part is going to be true given the first part. No assumption. Just logic. You might give it a try sometime. You gonna answer to the saucepan comment though? I can't answer a comment. If you want an answer, try asking a question, though I don't promise to answer as I'm already getting fed up with your silliness.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 02:57 AM
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No they don't wonder. Not really. It's the planned outcome, if you read the stuff written back in the 1930s to 1970s.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 02:52 AM
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The main focus of feminism is always on single women. Women who have children are heterosexual, so take second place.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 02:51 AM
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No. Support for men will never grow silently. It is growing because the MRM is getting better at spreading its message, helped by the fact that as things get worse, it becomes more and more obvious how much men are disadvantaged. The more noise we make, the more we all demand that our politicians take action on issues, the more willing we are to stand up in the fight and be counted, the better off all men will be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 10:01 PM
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They don't even care about the children who are with their father on the streets. Which tells you a lot about whom they really are thinking about. Still, I will give the feminists this: they are doing something for some women. That in itself is rare enough.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 09:57 PM
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Well spotted. I pulled up UN DESA when I saw this appear a few years back but, of course, they ignored the facts in favour of their ideology.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 09:55 PM
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As I was saying on another thread somewhere, there is a movement building within the global feminist organisation, the United Nations, to define homelessness as a form of violence. Since their 'violence against women' programs have been adopted now in over 180 countries, that means that homelessness would potentially get $trillions of dollars BUT FOR WOMEN ONLY and the 'proof' will start appearing that women being homeless is all the fault of men. Meanwhile, men will be ignored, female homeless …
/r/MensRights20/11/21 09:52 PM
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Loosely, yes. I approve of the scientific method, if that's what you mean. Why do you ask?
/r/MensRights20/11/21 09:42 PM
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Yes men are more succesfull at commiting suicide, although women attempt it three times more Duh. How can it be otherwise? Woman: Attempt 1, Attempt 2, Attempt 3, gets mental health care. Man: Attempt 1, kills himself. Statistic: Women attempt suicide three times more than men.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:31 PM
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Duh. How can it be otherwise? Woman: Attempt 1, Attempt 2, Attempt 3, gets mental health care. Man: Attempt 1, kills himself. Statistic: Women attempt suicide three times more than men.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:30 PM
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I'm astonished by how seldom MRAs raise the issue of the sex life gap. The primary rights issue has to be the right to life, because without life you can't have any other rights. There's only one country in the world that has a roughly equal life expectancy and it is also one where the health care spending (excluding maternity) is about the same for men and women.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:27 PM
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That is definitely part of it. It is always easier to write up fiction than to do the hard and dedicated work to determine the facts, then work out the implications of those facts. If that weren't so, Jules Verne would have been the first man on the moon, in 1870.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:21 PM
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Quoting people accurately is helpful, regardless of how your think about an issue, since there is a lot of difference between: I don't have hard facts at hand right now and what you quoted I don't have hard facts I don't have a saucepan at hand right now but, reading that, you would be wrong to think I don't have a saucepan.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:18 PM
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I'm inclined to think it is an Anglo-nation thing. I think the poster could have been writing about the UK, Australia, New Zealand (maybe not so much), Canada or the USA.
/r/MensRights20/11/21 07:12 PM
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There's one kind of person who bans people from expressing views on human rights. And they're not the sort of person who belongs in decent society.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 06:51 PM
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It depends on what is being done about it. For example, if even 1% of murders were of women but nobody was doing anything because the vast majority of victims are male, then I would be fully behind making murder laws gender-neutral, or introducing special measures for women. But around 35% to 50% of domestic violence is done to men, yet men have almost no support from any government in the world, while feminists get $billions to help women only (which, by their own tacit admission, they fail at,…
/r/MensRights19/11/21 06:27 PM
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Thank you. I know a big problem in many countries is also the amount of drugs that get into prisons. Prisons in one country (Poland, I think, though not sure) were the primary place people started getting a drug habit!
/r/MensRights19/11/21 05:35 PM
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People can look up for their own sources (they are more likely to have the information sink in that way, and more likely to believe it) but which country, I agree, should be stated since I don't think these are global data.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 04:25 PM
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It's worth putting in, given that most of the public are led to think that it is in the region of 1 or 2%. Personally, I would have put the figure for men and children (about 60% depending on country) since children often get left out in the feminist "violence against women" mantra. Domestic violence against men and children is a distinct issue, and it is generally not being addressed.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 04:22 PM
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Given that our societies have created the divide and that some issues are distinctly to do with males, I think a special day that focuses on men and boys just one day in the year is a worthwhile endeavour.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 04:20 PM
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I don't know which country(ies) he's using for these statistics. They don't quite gel with any that I know, though the numbers are roughly the same across the Western World. For the UK, I recommend this post, and others the guy has written (and his book) on the same topic of discrimination in criminal justice. I don't think he has covered proportional arrests, he starts at arrests into prosecutions.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:40 PM
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Yes! Glad someone said this! Wish I could give more than one up-vote.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:34 PM
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Men have always been expendable. That's part of the problem.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:33 PM
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Which country and do you have a source, please?
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:32 PM
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Always press for details. There's a post on r/GenderRights that asks about what issues there are for women. We are coming up with a few things but it's damned obvious that it is a struggle to discover anything, even on an international scale. So, always keep pressing for examples. And don't accept the "more women.." or "more men.." crap because that just shows an imbalance, which need not even be discrimination, let alone oppression of one sex. Even the statistics posted here don't prove discrim…
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:31 PM
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lol – really, I'm still chuckling. Some people are such fuckwits. I hope you coped with such bigotry well. Obviously you understand enough to point out that if there was such as a thing as feminism's Patriarchy conspiracy theory says, it must be doing a bloody poor job when it produces statistics like that. Keep strong, brother. Don't let the ignorant and prejudiced grind you down. Have a great day.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:23 PM
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The comparison is difficult because the way the two sexes are built, they use muscles slightly differently and a lot of a man's musculature is for endurance; men tend to have a greater proportion of upper-body strength, too. I did see a statistic once that measured capable power output tested in various ways and it was that the top ⅓ of women are stronger than the bottom ⅓ of men, which is quite an overlap.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:19 PM
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In the UK, the highest earner is a woman. (The richest is a man I've never heard of.)
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:13 PM
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In United Nations circles, there are attempts to make homelessness a form of "violence against women". If they succeed then billions of dollars more will be poured into dealing with the issue for women only, because the UN is committed to eliminate violence against women. (In case you wonder, the UN has a global conference on this issue once a year but has never had a conference on the more numerous violence against men. And no, today isn't a Men's Day in the United Nations; a few years ago, the…
/r/MensRights19/11/21 02:11 PM
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I'm sure I could find a citation on the concept that women want men to be strong protectors, and will challenge them to test that. I'm equally sure I could find citations saying the opposite, though. Citation wars get us nowhere. Your point about "In the old days, a Woman was to be modest and not raise her voice against Men" is accepted to a point. That, I think, is a stereotype of 'upper class' women's expectations – the kind of expectations that feminists arose and fought against. The men were…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/21 10:11 PM
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Hi, It would be easy for me to say I've not been through what you experienced. But more accurately, I've not been through it for the same reasons. What I'm going to write might not come over as being very sympathetic but I mean to help and hope you can read it with that in mind. My parents have always made me feel unwanted, uncared for, and unsafe Welcome to the real world for a great many people. While it is more common for this experience to happen to males, it even happens to a lot of females…
/r/MenSupportMen18/11/21 01:09 PM
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Also, once you understand something, it is less fearful. Definitely, understand the components of misandry and what causes it, so that you can help to fix some of it. Causes include: Human nature at a deep, animal level: women challenge men because they want men to be able to stand up to them and protect them. There's no solving that – it's just who we are as people. Unconscious bias against what we don't understand. Women don't understand men as much as they understand women (and vice-versa). T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/21 12:24 PM
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If I may gently suggest to you, stop the mantra of "nobody gives a shit". For one thing it is inaccurate (as posters here show) but far worse, it is something that eats away in your subconscious. It makes you feel hopeless, which makes you feel that nobody cares, which make you feel more hopeless.. I'm talking as someone who has been there and almost got the shroud to prove it. It is certainly true that the majority of people don't care. Most don't care if the roof of your house falls in, or you…
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:49 PM
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They are tiny in number. In the UK, for example, the main feminist society admitted that less than 7% of people identify as feminist, and most of those won't be activists. (Incidentally, the same research determined that between 67% and 83% of people want equality of opportunity for women and men, which just goes to show how aware are people generally that feminism is not about equality.)
/r/MensRights17/11/21 02:17 PM
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You're only three years old? IMD has been around since the 1990s.
/r/MensRights15/11/21 04:09 PM
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'People' in international circles almost always refers to women only. For men and children to be recognised, they must be named specifically.
/r/MensRights15/11/21 04:02 PM
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The feminist body, the United Nations, has already declared the 19th as World Toilet Day. I don't think we need be concerned what other people declare the days as. What is important is how well we use that day to collectively raise men's issues to the public and organisations.
/r/MensRights15/11/21 04:01 PM
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Every little effort is worthwhile. Every small slight, every slight denigration, every degradation of rights. It all adds up to where men are now, just a little bit at a time.
/r/MensRights14/11/21 06:03 PM
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If you're serious, contact me by private message and we can start talking about how to go about it, perhaps launching one every year or two.
/r/MensRights14/11/21 05:59 PM
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Thank you for standing up for men. We need more men to stand against the tiny minority of feminists.
/r/MensRights14/11/21 05:58 PM
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Masculinity is the set of characteristics associated specifically with being male. Not every male will have every characteristic and a few males might even have none but when considered as a whole, there are things that men are that are distinct from women. In modern society, feminism has really screwed around with this simple concept .. for humans, anyway. If you are really struggling to see it in humans, it might help to think of lions. If you've watched any nature programs (or lived in a lion…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 10:12 PM
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Being a living creature is all about procreation. Without that, the species won't survive. That is the most fundamental nature of all humans, male or female. Males are therefore built to be attracted to females who will assist that process, and females are built to be attracted to males who will assist that process. So being a man 'in 2021' is in almost every important respect the same thing as being a man in 2000, 1900 and 1400. And long, long, before that. There are ideologues who want to crus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 10:00 PM
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No, for two reasons. The first is that not all rapists rely on government support, so the government won't look to the victim for payment, and the rapist won't stand much chance of winning a case without the power of the government. The second reason is that the victim, even though being made by the government to pay child support, might be able to (and has in at least one case I knew of) claim civil damage from the rapist that cover those payments (piling stupidity upon stupidity to end up with…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 09:09 PM
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Yeah, the hug thing I do understand. But the hopelessness thing may be because you aren't an activist yet? There's a deal of difference between being 'red pilled' and being an MRA. Once you get stuck into the fight for rights, you tend to associate with more positive-minded people. It's frustrating as hell at times but invigorating and once you accept that no change happens overnight, it can be very fulfilling.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 11:44 AM
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harder to quantify things that ''don't happen'' A good observation. One could make an estimate of the amount of time men spend being violent, and make a comparison to the amount of time they spend stopping or dealing with violence. Of course, one can say that police and ambulance services, etc. are paid but a violent person is usually seeking payment of some form, too: if not in direct financial terms then in climbing some hierarchy or gaining/maintaining status. Actually, that would be an inter…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 10:18 AM
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Thanks for the ultimately successful story. One problem I have with the way female rapists are treated is that if they are pregnant or have young children, they usually are not jailed at all for a crime that would see a man rightly put away for a long time. It's an actual incentive for a female rapist to get pregnant: her punishment will be negligible, and it won't be a financial cost to her because the victim will be made to pay for her crime. I'm glad your contact is caring for his child, and …
/r/MensRights11/11/21 10:04 AM
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Yes, it is fucked. But what you list as 'imagine if..' is already beginning to happen. It's not being consciously felt by the general public much yet (though the recent 'supply chain failures' are a sign, as could be the increasing average response times of emergency services). But, please, stop saying 'nobody cares' because that is defeatist and a said enough to yourself and others becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. You care, by the sounds of it, so do I. In caring, we have to find those who d…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 09:58 AM
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In a way, it is right and proper that they would follow whatever is 'trendy'. They should be concentrating on profits and doing whatever they believe will increase profits for their shareholders (and don't forget that includes the like of you and me, through savings schemes and pensions). It is why, for now, almost no company will support men's rights. Once we have moved the 'Overton Window' enough; once supporting men has been made into the latest fad, they will be all for men's rights. Use the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 09:45 AM
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I think men's 'strive for success' goes a lot deeper than any choice made relating to modern (by which I mean the past 50,000 years) society. It is a deeply seated need in him as an animal. Females (of most species) look for a male with power and success – again a deeply seated drive. Evolutionary drive means they want offspring that will survive; one of the indicators of improved chances are that the male is able to protect her and her children, another is that the male will be able to provide …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 09:39 AM
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The concept that testosterone increases aggression has been debunked by several major studies. One thing it does is increase competitiveness. Being more competitive can lead to aggression in specific circumstances. (And being competitive, which includes sexual interest, increases testosterone.) I'm unaware of anything other than a feminist paper (i.e. untrustworthy) which has carried the theory that testosterone=violence for at least a decade. Only when a sudden and unnaturally large amount of t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 09:30 AM
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Virtue signalling their support now, now when it's safe to do so. Where we're they when we needed them? Virtue signalling to conservatives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 01:23 AM
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Climate change is a war that must be won for women and men alike. I'm sorry to say, but we lost that battle a long time ago. It was back in the '90s that the United Nations came up with the statement out of the middle of nowhere that women are most affected by global warming. With their multi-million pound propaganda budget and hunger for power and control the feminist United Nations now fully supports the ridiculous concept (now 'proven' by paying the salaries of dozens of feminists to write re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 01:22 AM
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Welcome to men's .. er .. rights?
/r/MensRights11/11/21 01:05 AM
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Several other countries have made similar rules in the past couple of decades, including Australia, Nigeria and Russia. Misandry is global.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 01:04 AM
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He probably won't have to. There are lawyers who will look into taking that kind of case on pro-bono. I would think that lawyers in the MRM are onto it already, but I will write to make sure they know of the case. Edit: Oh, it's an old case. I won't write be following it up.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 01:01 AM
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Yes, in the past decade or two I've been aware of similar cases not only in the USA but in Australia, Nigeria and Russia. Rapists all around the world are making the victim pay for being a victim .. so long as the victim is male.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 12:56 AM
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Nothing new, sadly. Nor is it confined to the USA. Legally, what's happening is that the victim is pay for the upkeep of the child. In effect, of course, that can't help but benefit the rapist. A slight hope for him is that he might well be able to sue her for the money he has to pay, as stupid as that sounds. There was a case where that succeeded a few years back (in the USA, I think but I don't recall it that well) and the woman was made to pay it all back over a period of time. Let us hope he…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 12:52 AM
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The worst of it is, the victim could end up having to pay for the child created as a result of raping him.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 12:44 AM
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Ha ha ha. Not only are you a poor analyst, you can't even insult someone very well. Never mind, go back to your kennel.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 12:39 AM
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Can anyone explain why asking a reasonable question in a polite manner gets down-voted? We should be encouraging questions, not dismissing them.
/r/MensRights10/11/21 03:12 PM
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I am so fucking handsome now No you aren't. I don't even need to look at you to know that you are ugly as fuck. I don't expect to change a mind as ugly as yours. But I still hope you get some help. And that's from one millionaire to another.
/r/MensRights10/11/21 03:04 PM
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Oh dear, I hope somebody helps you soon. You need it, you really do. ​ I do hate women.…. Men invented everything you're using now. Every fucking single thing. Oh, they did, did they? How sure are you of that? Do you know who first ground some grass seeds and invented flour, or who then combined this with water and yeast to make bread? If you think you do, you're wrong. Ever heard of the circular saw? Ever had a car with a heater in it? Ever played Monopoly, or seen the statistics of how many pe…
/r/MensRights09/11/21 08:46 PM
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incels of mgtow What are you talking about? MGTOW is a conscious decision men make. Incel, as its name says, is the opposite. The two are not compatible. mra groups used those spaces to harm target women Where? I've heard this often from feminists and the most I've ever been pointed to are sites on how to get dates and stuff: nothing connected with men's rights. So have a look and find them.
/r/MensRights09/11/21 08:19 PM
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And then along come feminists and paint men as wicked and bad for even complimenting a woman without her permission!
/r/MensRights09/11/21 08:11 PM
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Issues around parenthood is the main one I can think of. The experiences and needs of a mother are different than that of a father. Even there, though, I would prefer 'parenting' laws, policies, regulations, whatever with sections to deal with the distinct needs of the sexes only where necessary, rather than addressing them completely separately, as though they aren't intertwined and even a lot more interchangeable than sexist dogma like feminism would make out.
/r/MensRights09/11/21 08:09 PM
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No. The main party is feminists. They are the people who created a society in which men increasingly don't want to be near women. And by some definitions I've seen of incel "A man who has at some point not got the sex he wanted" I'd say almost the entire half humanity that is male comes under that useless and demeaning label. I've tried talking to feminists. Have you? These days, most of the time I engage with feminists, it is because they are opposing whatever (and wherever) men and women are t…
/r/MensRights09/11/21 06:11 PM
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I often point out how feminism hurts women too, and I while I don't think it is the issue with most social impact, the most individually painful and clear example is with women who are hurt by other women. Feminism wants a man to blame in every circumstance and if you can't come up with a man to blame (even if it was a woman who hurt you) then feminists don't want to know. I am glad you describe yourself as a 'survivor' and thank you for sharing your personal story.
/r/MensRights09/11/21 05:49 PM
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In at least thirty countries around the world, too.
/r/MensRights09/11/21 05:42 PM
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equal jail time for women Feminists from the United Nations downwards aren't just arguing for less jail time for women. They are saying that no woman should ever be put in prison! All the child molesters, the drug pushers, the slave traffickers, the murders and arsonists .. all of them should be kept among the rest of us in society, according to this increasingly noisy and sizeable movement.
/r/MensRights09/11/21 05:37 PM
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There is nothing so lonely as that time you are contemplating suicide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 11:23 AM
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a lot of people will rage Firstly, while I don't doubt there will be a lot of rage, I question whether than will ever come from a lot of people. There is a difference between a few people making a lot of noise, and many people making a little noise. Secondly, so what? If you know that what you are saying is right, decent and humane, who gives a flying fudge for what anyone else thinks. If you deem a response even worthwhile to such unworthy people, just make comments that take feminist beliefs h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 11:21 AM
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That is just the kind of time to go on the attack. When you have written proof of their harassment and they have no proof of what they accuse you of, they leave themselves open. Even after you have left, you may be able to get financial compensation from them. Consider talking to a lawyer about it: help teach people not to piss on men just because.
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:44 AM
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What?
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:41 AM
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do not admit to anything...even by mistake.. Sadly, this is good advice. I say 'sadly' because I believe that acknowledging your own faults is necessary for self-improvement and that giving a genuine apology has great power in helping oil society so that we all get along. But I have noticed over the past 20 to 30 years that those who publicly acknowledge fault, and especially those who apologise, just seem to make themselves a target for even more unremitting hate and the calls for dismissal inc…
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:28 AM
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I think that's what has OP upset. He just wanted to show up to work and not have to deal with any of this... Indeed and that's fine and understandable. But shit happens and we don't always get what we want. One of the things that defines us as a man is how we handle such situations. Hopefully our advice to this man helps him to turn the tables on his employer and put them on trial.
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:18 AM
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It's a segue from the main topic but this is important not only for interviews, as I will explain: go into the interview, not with the intention of getting the job, but to find out more about the position and the company to see if it was a good fit with my interests and requirements This is absolutely right. Never go to be interviewed. Go to interview them. Do they have what it takes to be your employer? Of course, you will exchange information about yourself as well, and some of the discussion …
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:13 AM
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No, and I give my reasons. What reason do you have for thinking they are right-wing, other than it being the common (mis)perception?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 09:32 AM
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We must be careful not to give the message than men talking is not a help. It is. But for all the talk, societies that pile on responsibility with no compensation, that go too far away from human nature and yet also too far away from what helps to sustain that society .. these societies always have high suicide rates. Men want to fix things. But they are being held back from doing so, even blamed for wanting to do so. Only the destroyers of our social structures would set up such conditions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 06:03 PM
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men are (in relation to women) twice as likely to commit suicide having no prior attempts made. That's insane. It is because of two things. Personally, I suspect the second is the main one: Women don't try to actually kill themselves but self-harm in an appeal for help; Men are more effective at suicide. Killing oneself is largely a single-minded, technical matter and men are, in general, better at that kind of thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 05:59 PM
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I would only risk that if you're about to move to a different town. Police have memories and will watch you like a hawk for the slightest thing: and few of us keep exactly to the law every moment of every day. My sister reported the police once. They got their own back and she was done for driving drunkenly out of a pub car park. The pub doesn't even have a car park, but she was still done for it.
/r/MensRights07/11/21 05:27 PM
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Women commit more child abuse than men. Whenever someone is a sexist towards you for caring for your child, make sure you get that point across.
/r/MensRights07/11/21 05:19 PM
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I hope you have not only used the matters you raise about her in defence but use them as a complaint. If not, make that complaint (first thing tomorrow) and insist on being informed of progress on it. Tell them that you have been advised to consider taking her and your employers to court. (What? Nobody has advised you on that yet? Read this: I advise you to consider taking her and your employers to court. Also consider the police and any available work tribunal.) Let them know that if you do dec…
/r/MensRights07/11/21 05:15 PM
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Thank you for posting that. I knew of the caning issue (it is far more widespread than might be thought, particularly in the Middle East). I have added the corporal punishment to boys matter and the rape problem into the Legal Discrimination Database. The rape law is quite common and at least it is possible for males to be recognised as victims of rape. The common retort to mentioning that as an issue is that women can get just the same punishment under Sexual Assault. Like in many countries, th…
/r/MensRights07/11/21 05:10 PM
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Humans aren't wired to have a lot of empathy for men, especially those men with low social status. So the majority of MRAs are going to be those with an extremely logical approach who can see injustice without having to rely on empathy. Thank you for writing that. It addresses something I'm trying to tackle and says it very well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 01:49 PM
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The main party in Germany in 1935 was the National Socialist Party. While often painted as being right-wing because they opposed Bolshevist communism and because they were primarily nationalist, most of their policies can be seen at the times as being left-wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 01:41 PM
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I am not convinced that feminists can be written down as simply being far right. In my own country and those others I'm aware of enough to judge, most of what you list can be said to be left-wing or right-wing, and have been enacted by governments on both sides of the political divide. They are feminist policies which are supported by both left and right wing political parties and can be found in the manifestos of parties of all colours (not necessarily overtly but in effect). Things like limiti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 01:35 PM
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Is it still socially and by the rules acceptable … That depends on where you live. Most 'Western' countries these days have gone so far away from disciplining children that it is becoming a problem in itself. There is a balance between the abuse you suffered and never touching, or even telling off, a child. Unfortunately, few countries seem to settle with that balance, instead going from one extreme to the other, to the point that teachers start to mention abuse from children as a reason for pac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/21 01:18 PM
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You approach the matter from an interesting perspective and make the point well. I think you are wrong in it not being 'just a feminist thing'. Yes, it is across the political spectrum: so is feminism. Don't forget, feminism has been infecting our societies for so long now that some things they started almost appear to be part of our culture, instead of the corruption of it. Some women get the message about sex, by the way. There are women, for example, who are well aware of one of the main reas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/21 05:12 PM
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Portugal is subject to EU and international law, by its own constitution., which also promises legal protection against any form of discrimination. There are presumably lawyers who are aware of this and doing something about it (I don't know more than three words of Portuguese and can't check). Give them what support you can, drum up other public support for the government to be taken to the International Criminal Court if it wont allow itself to be judged by a national court.
/r/MensRights06/11/21 01:13 PM
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Ukraine has the highest ratio of male to female suicides of any country in the world, at more than seven times.
/r/MensRights06/11/21 12:56 PM
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It is reasonable to define a movement by what the organisations of that movement say. They do not say that feminism is about male and female betterment (yes, it is a word). Obviously, if there is someone who fights for both, we don't want to alienate them. They clearly don't follow feminist dogma very closely and might not be doing any of the feminist damage to men, children and women. I have no problem with someone advocating on behalf of women as well as men. You might want to ask them just wh…
/r/MensRights06/11/21 12:46 PM
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Politicians are just people. They can't be expected to be perfect and they certainly do not have infinite time to look into every issue. But in a democratic society, it is up to them to care about everyone. If they do not, it is up to the voter—that is you, me and everyone else reading—to make a point at the next election that we will vote for whoever has the most policies to help men achieve equality in law and society, regardless of political party.
/r/MensRights06/11/21 12:33 PM
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My point is not so much that those struggling for men's rights know that feminism is not about equality – we all have to learn that at some point. The point I'm making is that many still think that feminism claims to be about equality. While there are some people who don't know what feminism is, who will say that feminism is about equality for men and women there is no feminist organisation, no notable feminist book, that makes such a claim. Yes, we need to help enlighten those who are confused …
/r/MensRights06/11/21 12:28 PM
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How blind does one have to be to not see the systemic discrimination men face on daily basis or lack of support they have? As you get stuck into supporting men's rights issues, you will find that it isn't always a case of blindness on the part of people (politicians, diplomats and their beaurocracy) so much as that men's issues are invisible. Billions of dollars are spent every year undertaking 'studies' and producing reports that look only at women's experiences. Quite apart from the appallingl…
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:50 PM
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That's not really the issue. Yes, the majority of politicians are male (more because of the way women vote than who men vote for). But to whose benefit are the laws and policies that those men put into place? It didn't need women in political power to grant women the vote, nor to give them equal pay. It didn't need women in political power to create a society in which men die earlier than women while most health spending goes to women (even excluding maternity), or in which men and boys have a w…
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:36 PM
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For a movement that claims to fight for equality I have to wonder who you are talking of. So many men's rights activists seem to think that feminism claims to fight for equality. It doesn't. At best, you will find a feminist organisation giving its aims as advocating for the equality for women. Only once in twenty years has anyone managed to point me to a notable feminist who—perhaps—mentioned that feminism should be about gaining rights for men as well as women (depends how one interprets her w…
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:24 PM
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obviously have the capacity to work … as firefighters You think? I know who I'd rather be coming to my rescue if I was unconscious with smoke inhalation and needed lifting out of a burning building. Australia's crazy 50% female-firefighter quota if more men became say, kindergarten or elementary school teachers, that would actually benefit young boys Absolutely. But working around children in what is now a very feminist work place is incredibly dangerous to more than just a man's career. the low…
/r/MensRights04/11/21 08:14 PM
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I do not understand how that proves one is "more damaging" than the other Something someone does to you is characterised as something you can do nothing about. Something you do to yourself is characterised as something you are able to change, if you want. Think of the words 'predatory' and 'risky' in other circumstances. A wild horse choosing to attempt to leap over a river (for fun) has the option not to make the dangerous attempt. The same horse hunted by lionesses is given no option about the…
/r/MensRights03/11/21 09:07 PM
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Some of the policies and beliefs of many men's rights activists can be described as conservative, and 'conservative' is usually something aligned with the right. But – these days especially – the main feature of the men's right's movement is a call for equality (genuine equality) of opportunity which is a distinctly left-wing call.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 09:05 PM
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Perhaps because they believe that politics should be about discussion. Perhaps they think it stupid that posting on a men's forum will get you automatically banned from feminist forums, and believe that people with opposing views need to be talking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 08:05 AM
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Can you explain to me why calling a man predatory is perceived as more damaging [than slut-shaming] Predatory behaviour describes something done to another. Being a slut (male or female) is something a person does to themselves.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 07:56 AM
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It’s amazing that the people with the “wrong idea” about feminism tend to be the feminists themselves isn’t it! That is an interesting comment that makes me pause to think. How can it be that anyone defined by any label knows less than those not defined by the label? On the face of it, it doesn't make sense (which may be why someone down-voted it). I think it is because what we are really talking about is a disconnect between what those feminists at the top of the hierarchy (the ones with power …
/r/MensRights03/11/21 07:44 AM
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I think the only change is feminist hogwash. I'm too old to bother chatting up women any more but I think if I did, I'd start with "Are you a feminist?" If they answer 'yes' or even hesitate, I'd turn away (run!). So long as they give an emphatic 'no', I could behave like a normal human being with them.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 07:36 PM
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What's confusing about it? You may not have much of a clue the first time you do a check but if you check monthly (like the 11th of every month, for example) then you will be able to tell if there is any change.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 07:32 PM
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I'll tell you one thing about parenting: it is dead easy to think your parents were awful until you are a parent yourself. Then you realise that just being an 'average' parent takes a hell of a lot of effort, and when realise your kids are looking at all the things you do 'wrong', pointing out all the things you did right doesn't come into it. Then you become a grandparent and have a real laugh!
/r/MensRights01/11/21 07:27 PM
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But in reality the vast majority of men and women have a very accurate idea about feminism, and that's why they don't support it.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 07:21 PM
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hqa ha ha ha You are so funny at times!
/r/MensRights01/11/21 07:18 PM
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Now look at the miles travelled and do the mathematics needed to get to accidents per mile of travel, which is what I have been saying all along.
/r/MensRights01/11/21 07:17 PM
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I was expecting you to mention the high number of women in the Klu Klux Klan. I have read that at one time, there were considerably more women than men involved in it. The Women Behind The Masks Of Hate
/r/MensRights31/10/21 09:19 PM
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While there are distinct links between suffragettes and fascists, the same could not be said of suffragettes and feminists. The feminist movement existed at the same time as the suffragette movement and was distinct from it. A Welsh suffragette group even banned feminists. That's not to say that some people weren't in both, nor that there wasn't some help from one to the other, such as Louise Lawson, an Australian feminist owner of a printing press back in the 1890s (yes, women really did own bu…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 09:11 PM
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downvotes you all hand out to anyone who doesn’t agree with your ridiculous viewpoints 1) Nothing ridiculous. They might be strange to someone who is steeped in feminism but in general they are provably not ridiculous viewpoints. 2) What do you do? Most people up-vote something they particularly approve of or agree with. Therefore, it makes sense that they down-vote something they particularly disapprove of or disagree with.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 09:00 PM
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ONE significant struggle that wasn’t violent The men's rights movement. For all that feminists want to attach crazies to it, and link it with other things like 'Game' (which is possibly also non-violent) I can't think of anyone in the movement that struggles for men's rights, in any country, over the past 100 years, who has taken up violence as any kind of solution. Which is pretty ironic, given the way that feminist want to paint all men as violent beasts.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 08:56 PM
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The trouble with concepts like 'trad wife' is that most people use them to refer to a 'golden past' that—if it ever did exist—was so short-lived that it is impossible to say that it was socially maintainable. Personally, I think nothing is more important than children. That's why I supported my wife as a stay-at-home mum while we had young children. She then started being a bigger and bigger part of our businesses, so I engaged an au pair to share in childcare. Until she went off the rails, my w…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 08:17 PM
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The UK government is very feminist. I don't think there has been an anti-feminist, or even non-feminist, British government since Thatcher/Major (1979-1997). There is an up-side. As the government becomes more feminist each time, the resistance grows. There are three or four British politicians talking at the International Conference on Men's Issues later this year.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 08:00 PM
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That is a very valid warning when reading feminist tracts. That's not to say people should not consider what is being said, but they should read with a questioning mind and especially notice the differences between assumption, presumption and evidence. A somewhat safer book, requiring less effort, is Women & Power - a manifesto by Mary Beard.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 07:56 PM
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As much as feminism (that is, feminist organisations and active feminists) gets in the way of men and boys having their rights and dignities, feminism isn't really a men's rights issue. It is a toxic ideology that is a side show. So it depends on why you want to learn about feminism and what kind of debates you anticipate being involved in. If it is because you want to become an active anti-feminist, purely fighting against feminism, then (depending on your knowledge level) you might want to sta…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 07:52 PM
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Quite so, with authority should come responsibility. But at least men would be respected and admired for being willing—even potentially—to fight for defence of their family/tribe/nation.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:57 PM
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Most people who study feminism in university fall for the indoctrination. Why didn't you? (Please don't answer if you think the answer could be useful to feminists.)
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:52 PM
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Over time, you also come to realise that feminism is not a movement that supports most women, either. Which is why most women don't align themselves with feminism.
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:50 PM
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It took over a decade … it's hard to unlearn something you have been taught all your life. But unlearn I did This is something many in the men's rights movement need to learn. You can't convert a feminist in a single argument, nor even in a single week. You can't even convert a non-feminist away from indoctrinated feminism in that time. (And few people ever change their opinion by arguing with them.) Feminism is playing a long-term game, putting policies into place that might not see fruition fo…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:45 PM
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If a woman is dressed like a man, walks like a man, looks like a man, then I am not going to stop them going to the same toilets as me: how and why would I, when I perceive them as men. If a man is dressed like a woman, walks like a woman, looks like a woman, then nobody is going to stop them going to the same toilets as women: how and why would they, when they perceive them as women. The only problem arises when someone wants to be (or is) something in-between, which is both rare and inevitable…
/r/MensRights31/10/21 05:32 PM
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My understanding is that it is no more "pro trans" than it is pro cabbage. This is a sub for discussing men's issues, particularly their rights. Trans men tend to suffer from just the same issues as most men, though in some ways trans women still suffer from just the same issues.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 01:00 PM
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The period of woman’s supremacy lasted through many centuries - undisputed, accepted as natural and proper wherever it existed, and was called the matriarchy in which Amnesty International funded and organized thousands of feminists across the globe in an effort to edit Wikipedia such that it presents a more positive picture of feminism: in power, in an article titled Matriarchate or Mother-Age published in 1891. What is that first paragraph supposed to be about? You imply that Amnesty Internati…
/r/MensRights30/10/21 12:51 PM
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The 'old' part is to try to drive a wedge between older contemporary men and younger contemporary men. Feminists are aware that older men (and women) are rejecting feminist indoctrination much more than younger ones. They also know that one solution to the problems caused by feminised homes (often without the father there) can be ameliorated to some extent by older men acting as mentors and guides for younger men (much the same for women, too). They obviously don't want that, so they try to make…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/21 12:13 PM
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yeah you guys were in power at the time, who made it so women could be in power, get the same pay, work in sciences, compete with men, get the right to vote, who created that change? For goodness sake, are you really so absorbed in your feminism that you are unwilling to realise that it was those men in power—the ones your feminist indoctrination says do nothing for women—who changed the laws? If men wanted to 'keep' women oppressed, why did they do that? No, don't bother answering. I know the s…
/r/MensRights30/10/21 11:59 AM
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Think about the millions of men who have been killed for less. Forget your feminist indoctrination 'bro'.
/r/MensRights30/10/21 11:56 AM
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With respect, you making the error of thinking that facts are more important than indoctrinated feelings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 04:15 PM
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Yes. As I said, women had more rights than men through most of our history. They weren't equal rights but they were commensurate rights that took account of the differences of the sexes in a pre-industrial society. I think women generally had better rights, though that can depend on whether one considers it better to have rights than to not have responsibilities (modern society is all too quick to concentrate on rights and ignore responsibilities).
/r/MensRights29/10/21 04:07 PM
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femism gave women rights Feminism keeps ramming it down our throats that men are the ones in power, yet ignore that whenever convenient. It was men who increased women's rights (women always had rights, and more than men over much of Western and Eastern history). Men gave women rights because the Women's Liberation movement – a movement that I remember arose apart from feminism (which is why it was called something distinct) – and achieved their aims in a remarkably short time (like most things …
/r/MensRights28/10/21 09:50 PM
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Show me the statistics you are using that show that women cause less accidents than men do, per mile of travel. But suppose it is true .. oh, no, you will just keep denying it. Alright, then – women shoplift more than men do, so we should ban women from shopping, right? Your moral and ethical basis is just sounding like "I don't like men, so punish them all."
/r/MensRights28/10/21 09:44 PM
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Wages have declined if you consider the cost of living It's not an area I have studied in depth but I think you will find that wages have not declined, or not notably. disparity between the rich and poor is greater than it was in the Victorian era I think you would have to be looking at only the top 1% and bottom 1% to arrive at that conclusion. Even then, I have my doubts. Taking the top 33% and the bottom 33% of wages will show a closer match today in real terms compared to 150 years or so. No…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 01:21 PM
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Compared to the modern Western man, brought up under feminism, the typical Muslim man is a lot closer to a traditional masculine man. He believes in a natural difference between the sexes, for a start. While almost all men have the natural instinct to protect and care for women and children—something deep-seated in their nature that even feminism can't erase—an Islamic is much more free to exercise that instinct. Non-Muslim women are meeting these men and converting to Islam to be married to the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 01:02 PM
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Women cause more accidents per mile of travel than men do. So we should tell women to stay off the road, right? Why tell men to stay at home why not tell women to stay home, it would stop the issue.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 12:56 PM
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…if men are doing this… Two things. The first is to highlight that word 'if'. Lots of accusations but no reason to believe the vast majority of them. High consumption of alcohol seems to be the main issue, an issue which neither male nor female student's unreasonable fears seems to stop. Society should respond to unreasonable fears with accurate reporting and good education (including banning the feminist narrative). …if men are doing this… The second matter is that "men" are not doing this. Eve…
/r/MensRights28/10/21 12:53 PM
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…doesn’t change the fact that both these leaders are male… Hopefully, you will read my other recent post nearby on the difference between patriarchy and 'The Patriarchy' and think a little on it. Just because all mothers are women does not mean baby boys aren't cared for. Just because most politicians are men does not mean women and children are not cared for. Indeed, if you spend time around men's rights forums, you will come to realise that the people those men in power care least about is men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/21 02:55 AM
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I just want to chip in here and point out that there is a difference between patriarchy and 'The Patriarchy'. The first is connected with the feature seen in all cultures and—so far as we can detect—across all time that men tend to be the ones leading the social and communal life (while women lead the domestic and kinship life). Patriarchy can also refer to the culture of passing on the male's name. 'The Patriarchy' (bad grammar but never mind) is a feature of feminist Patriarchy Theory. This po…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/21 02:50 AM
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You missed out that men commute further on average. Indeed, if you take the quite reasonable view that work time—from a worker's perspective—is from when they leave their home to when they get back, and average out the hours earned, you will discover that women earn more than men. That's quite apart from the young person wage gap. It varies slightly from country to country but up until about age 33, women have higher average earnings than men. Always ask people what explains that, when the raise…
/r/MensRights26/10/21 03:30 PM
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Try not to react in terms of left/right, even if that is the apparent message. Look instead at the message, at its intent and (if you are an activist) at how you might counter it. Is there validity in the message? Personally—and I am an activist for men's rights—I think there is something to the message IF there is anything to the implication that men say that there is a high trans suicide rate among trans because they are 'trans are too fragile to handle being misgendered'. So, is there anythin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/21 03:10 PM
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Is there a link between the rise of feminist literature and popularity and the decline of marxist ideas relating to working class and middle class struggle against the ruling class? My gut feel that neither is the cause of the other. However, I accept that as men are weakened in society, so all that they used to protect (sometimes with their lives) is made vulnerable. That explains why any hegemonic group (not just the feminist organisation) is able to trample over everyone more easily. ​ …decre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/21 01:38 PM
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Every time I come across someone who says men's rights is an "alt-right" movement, or such crap I ignore all else they have ranted about and ask this one question: Are you saying that it is not one of the most defining things about the left-wing, that they want equality?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/21 01:21 PM
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Those in the USA need to write to their federal senators and representatives and ask WHY there is nothing about men's issues in that White House document. Start making it clear that it matters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/21 01:17 PM
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It is up to men - obviously stating with the men's rights advocates - to make man's issues a voting issue. We have to ask political candidates "What are you doing to improve men's rights?" and we have to vote accordingly: not left or right, but simply on the issue of who will start the process of giving men their human and constitutional rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/21 01:13 PM
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Indeed. A politician who can't sway votes by appealing to you (because you won't even vote) has no incentive to ever appeal to you. We have to vote for anyone putting forward male-friendly policies (even just one policy) and make it clear to other parties that that is why we won't vote for them. Left, right, central, green .. forget it. Who will help heal society by caring about male issues?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 05:39 PM
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What we all need to do – in every democratic country – whenever talking to a political representative or proselytiser is to ask "What are you doing for men's issues?" We need to let them know that we don't CARE about all the other stuff and who might reduce taxes or who might put them up: our vote will go to the candidate of any party who shows the most determination to give men equality in society and law. And we must vote that way, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 05:35 PM
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Does it matter what nationality the examples are in? You don't way where you are. Personally, for such examples, I would search on the sights j4mb.org.uk and empathygap.uk. For anyone not already aware, you can use Google to search any specific site, or even part of a site. Just start you search with site:url For example: site:news.mensactivism.org violence against men I presume some of the other answers will give you the keywords 'Lorena Bobbit' and 'Catherine Becker'/'Sharon Osborne'. Although…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 01:29 PM
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I don't know why people ever got the idea that feminism is about equality. I've only known of one notable feminist (brought to my notice recently) who might have thought that. Feminist organisations and most feminists are, at best, for "equality for women": i.e. enhancement of women's rights. The issue of transgender confuses feminism in a way that the founders of modern feminism in the 1940s/50s never foresaw. Feminism introduced the concept that the sexes are effectively the same (to stop peop…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 12:57 PM
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The usefulness of the graphic is to remind us that most people are on tier 1. I often find that a painful part of my activism, is working at that 'tier 55' and remembering not to talk about it even to most of the MRM. We have to address the message for the audience. And when the audience is at the top of the iceberg, talking too much about what is in the submarine far below it just makes us non-credible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 12:31 PM
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u/problem_redditor has given some good response already, so I won't add much. That post already points a little toward it but my biggest shocker for you is the United Nations. Very few people, even in the men's rights movement, understand the power and influence of the United Nations, nor that it is a self-declared feminist organisation. Then you find yourself—armed with ever-increasing knowledge—disagreeing with people who say 'feminism used to be good' and you might start wondering 'when did a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 12:23 PM
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I am glad you now see it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/21 09:27 PM
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In my professional circles, I simply say that I have interests in/spend time on human rights issues. Rarely does anyone ask for details but if the do, I pick an easy matter like the deviation in justice between men and women and talk about that one issue only.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/21 09:26 PM
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…promoting gender equality, stopping police violence, and and fighting for better labor rights… (and you could have named several more) To me, this nails it. If you care about these issues, you are an MRA and you support at least some traditionally left-wing policies. To my way of seeing politics, to not support these policies just because they are men's issues makes a person very suspect as being left-wing at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/21 09:20 PM
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That's a good graphic, thank you. Give it another few years and you'll get to the really scary stuff! ;-)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/21 09:12 PM
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Last time I looked (admittedly some years back) there were states in the USA that also define rape in much the same way as the UK: a sexual assault that is the insertion of a penis. I think it may be legal situation that most men (typically east of Turkey) live under.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/21 09:10 PM
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I don't keep people like that in my life any more. That alone is a worthwhile lesson for many people – men and women alike.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/21 09:00 PM
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Thank you for writing that. I am an advocate for helping men and children, not just women, suffering from domestic violence yet my own experience with domestic violence is minimal (just the usual name-calling and coercion that I think is most men's experience if they think about it). Being exposed to harrowing tales like yours helps me maintain perspective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/21 07:10 PM
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Yes, I hear there is a global conspiracy to do that. But I'm in my sixties and still haven't been sent my Patriarchy Membership Card, nor ever been admitted to the secret meetings that must be going on? I hear there are all kinds of advantages, so how do I join?
/r/MensRights23/10/21 06:16 PM
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I find that when I ask people to explain the gender earnings gap for the under-35s (in most countries young women earn more than young men, on average) they suddenly go quiet. Governments, asked about it on FOI requests, suddenly tell you they 'have no data' on the issue. Funny that, isn't it?
/r/MensRights23/10/21 06:13 PM
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A majority of [violent attackers] are more than likely men I tend to believe this too. But WHY do I believe it? What evidence is there that it is men who are the majority perpetrators? None, just indoctrination. Most perpetrators are never caught. What evidence is there that it is women who are the majority perpetrators? None. Most perpetrators are never caught. What indications are there that it might be men who are the majority perpetrators? Most people convicted are men. Of course, this is a …
/r/MensRights23/10/21 06:08 PM
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We live in a dangerous world where every potential harm can not be prevented That's why the United Nations campaign to "eliminate violence against women" is such a neat trick by the feminists. Violence can never be eliminated (there will always be people going crazy, not to mention accidental violence) so it is a campaign that can run and run, forever blaming men (and only men) and showing no concern for the majority of victims (men) or the most vulnerable in society (children).
/r/MensRights23/10/21 01:59 PM
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You are out of your mind if you don't think 99% of the attackers are men. You are out of your mind if you think 99% of the attackers are men.
/r/MensRights23/10/21 01:41 PM
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Im not sure these services actually stop any man who is intent on suicide. "Intent on", perhaps not. But take it from me that they can stop a man who is contemplating it, considering that it might be his only/best solution to life. It's not always obvious but there are always other options.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 03:29 PM
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Talking over issues is preferable to taking any action that could make a relationship worse. Going gung-ho anti on his children's mother is unlikely to be of help. Thankfully, I think the OP realises this, which is why he has come here with the dilemma. As for paying, I have put in a word I meant: 'possibly'. That is up to the financial arrangements between them and how he views funding his children. Taking their mother off the road might well do his children more harm than he wishes.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 03:15 PM
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Oh, but if you suggest that women take care of themselves, you will be accused of blaming the victim and wanting women to stay at home just because all those beastly men (all men, that is) can't be trusted so lock up all the men or introduce a curfew for men or make all men have to register their DNA (yes, each of these has been seriously suggested). Meanwhile, someone probably bitten by a gnat is given national media coverage for her suspicion that she was injected by something without her even…
/r/MensRights22/10/21 01:16 PM
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Repeat after me, and keep repeating it to anyone discussing street violence: Men are three times more likely to suffer violence and death in the streets than women. Most perpetrators are never caught, so we don't know whether the majority of them are men or women.
/r/MensRights22/10/21 01:09 PM
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It is NOT required that a young child wear a seatbelt in the UK. Wearing a seatbelt for a young (small) person can be dangerous because the top strap can end up sitting around the neck; a fast-forward stop can then break the neck, or crush the throat. So wearing just the bottom strap can be safer. For children under 12 or under 1.35m tall, child restraints should be used. I suggest you look into these and be prepared to talk to the mother about having them fitted in her car, possibly including a…
/r/MensRights22/10/21 01:05 PM
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My instinct, even as a long-time human rights advocate (mostly for men) is that I would also be wary of such a man. But why? I know that I would not kick such a man out without talking to him first, wanting to know why he was in a dress. After all, a man in a dress is not as socially normal as a woman in trousers: there is a difference (and women have 'always' worn trousers at least occasionally; I know it was the norm for female lorry drivers in Britain in WW2). I would want to be reassured tha…
/r/MensRights22/10/21 12:55 PM
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Well done. I've been astonished lately in this forum by the men who say "nobody cares about men" and even when I reply that "I do" I have been getting down-voted! Society changes one person at a time. We – we here, looking at men's rights issues especially – must care about our fellow man. I realise that is easier as we get older, when the sexual competitiveness that is part of our animal nature quiets down. But even as younger men, we can make deliberate efforts to look out for our fellow man. …
/r/MensRights22/10/21 12:39 PM
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I do.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 09:17 PM
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Do not think that is not the intent. Feminism, in the long term, is not particularly meant to be any nicer for women than it is for men. There is a good reason why so many women are anti-feminists.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 09:15 PM
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SPLC have made many men's rights websites unavailable to huge numbers of people by declaring them as a hate site.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 09:11 PM
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Anyone who finds the idea of any group wanting equal human rights is, to me, a highly controversial person. I might understand it if men already had equality, and were now seeking more (like feminists, do for women, for example) but to make a controversial issue of the dozens of ways in which men need to have their human rights .. that's just sick.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 09:09 PM
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Unfortunately, it is very effective in spreading Marxist propaganda.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 09:04 PM
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I hope you aren't someone a man comes across when he is down. A suicidal man won't be made stronger by telling him to Man Up. He needs help, he needs friendship, not your uncaring cruelty.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 05:39 PM
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Do people really come to this forum on men's rights because they only want to deal with their own issues? Have they swallowed feminism so much that they do not care about their fellow man? Do they not even realise that if they want their rights, it is going to take more than just them? That only by caring about one another will we stand a hope in hell of getting our joint human rights? If you don't care about other men, you may as well just go play tiddlywinks: it will be more productive than wa…
/r/MensRights21/10/21 05:36 PM
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I'm sure he meant it as sarcasm but in many parts of the United Nations, such things are said without sarcasm and plans are in place to make it happen around the world.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 05:21 PM
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Something similar cropped up in the UK. The phrase there to describe women getting more degrees than men was that the university had "exceeded equality". I was one of those who wrote to complain of such garbage.
/r/MensRights21/10/21 05:18 PM
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Well well. After many years of asking whether such has ever existed, it is someone on a men's forum who points me to a notable feminist who once might have implied that she thinks feminism is about equality for men. I'm not sure she meant quite that, since she hasn't done anything for men, as far as I'm aware. She may have simply meant that she was happy to have men torn down to the level she believed women were at. If that is the claim they are making then I think its fair to point out when the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/21 04:33 PM
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Usually because there is a part of them, still, that doesn't want to die. That hopes there may be a reason not to, despite the hopelessness and pain they are feeling.
/r/MensRights20/10/21 07:29 PM
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No one cares about men. I do. Why don't you?
/r/MensRights20/10/21 07:25 PM
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Some of the numbers are specific to men. Some are genuinely non-discriminatory (or at least, as non-discriminatory as the person taking the call can be). Let us not dissuade a desperate man from a chance of finding help. Better he looks for help somewhere, than kills himself. There are always options. If you know of a specific number that will treat men badly, then of course speak up.
/r/MensRights20/10/21 07:24 PM
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I would also list 01823 334244 for the UK. While it is not able to be open 24 hours, it is specific to men.
/r/MensRights20/10/21 07:21 PM
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Is there something more sinister happening at a higher level where the narrative is being intentionally manipulated to change the fabric of society? I don't know whether I would have used the word 'sinister' but yes. You can find out more about it from my speech at the International Conference on Men's Issues later this year. But that's not the only correct response. See other posters, too.
/r/MensRights20/10/21 06:49 PM
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Agreed. There has been research on lost girl, lost boy, lost cat and lost dog in a park. It is informative.
/r/MensRights20/10/21 06:45 PM
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you are arguing against me in a couple of posts, but I think you aren't hearing me right Could you perhaps see that you aren't saying it right? Instead of saying "then the problem is on her", which I responded to accurately, it would be simple to say instead "then the problem should be on her"
/r/MensRights20/10/21 06:39 PM
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If a man says, "I want you to have an abortion". and a woman says "NO". then the problem is on her. No, the problem is on him. She wants a child and will get what she wants. He doesn't want the child but will be made to pay for it anyway. He might not even get the rights to visit it, let alone be a proper dad for it, but he will still have to pay. In some places (notably the USA and Russia) his ability to pay isn't even considered: if he can't pay, he can be put in prison for it. For not being a…
/r/MensRights20/10/21 05:17 PM
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Paying bills isn't a violation of ones bodily autonomy. Forcing someone to give birth is. I can see this point. Giving birth is a major physical commitment. Forcing someone to pay an amount of money every week/month, that's just money. Money he takes time to earn, sometimes half of his time spent in earning. But that's just making him work for some time with no benefit to himself. That's making his body be at work for those hours each and every week, even though he might never have wanted to be …
/r/MensRights20/10/21 05:11 PM
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I am huge supporter of women rights and 100% support legal abortion. I too am a supporter of womens' rights. I think women should, in so far as it is practicable, have the same rights as men. No more, no less. Of course, given the way things are, that makes me a campaigner for men's rights, since women aren't generally missing any rights but men are missing lots. I am also a supporter of children's rights, including the right to life. I would ideally like to see a child have a right to choose an…
/r/MensRights20/10/21 04:58 PM
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R v Morgentaler And the United Nations, that self-declared feminist organisation that determines so much of our lives, supported this even in the face of having an established convention on the rights of children (which Canada has signed up to) that include: Every child has the right to life. Governments must do all they can to ensure that children survive and develop to their full potential. Every child has the right to …. know and be cared for by their parents.
/r/MensRights20/10/21 04:41 PM
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Alternate opinions can help, if we allow ourselves to think about them. They guy seems to do no harm. You accused him of being against men's rights (in every single post) but I don't see him saying anything there to harm men's rights. Saying not all women are bad might not be agreed by a misogynist but it does nothing, directly, one way or the other for men's rights. Indirectly, it cna help if people accept the message (you are surely aware of at least some of the high-profile, very active women…
/r/MensRights20/10/21 04:25 PM
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I'm not the one claiming she was or wasn't a feminist You very clearly did indicate that she was a feminist and even ascribed her later pro-male stance to her as a feminist. In that you were wrong and misleading. To use your own words, you're giving feminists a good name by trying to control narrative like that. That's what feminists, SJW's, and PC idiots do... More than one ex-feminist has come around and ended up doing good work fighting feminism, or didn't you realise that?
/r/MensRights20/10/21 02:40 PM
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I really feel for you. I hope you manage to get custody of your child. That is what it needs.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 03:04 PM
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But that is the whole point; it is the end game in parenting that most women still don't understand about feminism (though a growing number do, hence the growing number of anti-feminist women). The 'ideal' is that children belong to the state, are controlled by the state, are brought up by the state. The parents (both of them) may be asked for a greater contribution than non-parents but neither of them will have custody of thier children. Step 1 is getting the woman to work just as hard as a man…
/r/MensRights19/10/21 03:02 PM
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because they’re often incapable of seeing his suffering at all Yes. This. It is astonishing how true this is. Even male feminists don't get it. There was a case (Australian? Not sure.) recently where a man who had suffered a false accusation and called it a "living hell" nevertheless was proposing to make it even easier for the courts to convict someone based on an accusation. I think it is hard for most non-feminists, most men, to really grasp just how unseen they are, and therefore uncared abo…
/r/MensRights19/10/21 02:53 PM
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I don't think the pregnancy itself is harder than the slavery the man can be put into. If the woman either has the child killed or adopted, the man is not likely to end up in indentured servitude (though as one poster says, it has happened to them). However, a woman who does not want to endure the trauma of killing a life growing within her, or the emotional anguish of giving it away (and the problem here is that it is her choice alone, without him having any legal rights), will end up having to…
/r/MensRights19/10/21 02:47 PM
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Karen DeCrow feminist lawyer. I think it fair to say, when quoting DeCrow on matters as you have, that Karen DeCrow can not be considered a 'feminist lawyer'. At one time she was a feminist, certainly, but – like other rationally-minded feminists who start examining issues – she became much more of a men's rights advocate. In ascribing quotes like you have to a 'feminist lawyer' you give people entirely the wrong impression of feminists and feminism.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 02:27 PM
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Yes, this centres back on the whole equality in parenting issue. I was concentrating, as my words indicated, on the circumstance when the woman is left with a child. Abortion might be easily available in some parts of the world but it is rarely an easy option, if the woman is a decent human being. Giving the child up for adoption tends to be better, but still leaves it's mental scars. Anyway, as hope was clear I was concentrating on those times when the woman is left with the rapist's child. Why…
/r/MensRights19/10/21 02:16 PM
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Absolutely agree. To this extent, we need to learn from feminists: they remain a minority even today yet have hegemony. One group did it, and as Antonio Gramsci concluded: what one group can do, another can do too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/21 02:08 PM
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Granted a woman has options that a man would not, under current laws. But aborting a child, even one concieved in rape, is no small matter. Most women suffer greatly from abortion, often never making a full mental recovery. And if the woman doesn't believe in abortion - as many do not - then she has the child. Yes, she could give it away but that is no small matter either, often having long-term negative mental affects. I was considering the situation where the woman, perhaps to avoid the harmfu…
/r/MensRights19/10/21 01:09 PM
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The law in most places disagrees.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 01:01 PM
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The question is not "is it" but "should it be considered". Like a lot of men's rights issues, things are stacked against men and boys but we ask whether that is how society should be.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 04:15 PM
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Being NOT against their will requires there acceptance, at least, if not agreement. If that acceptance/agreement is based on falsehood, they they have not given their will. Consent is important (but not the nonsense of 'ongoing, positive, confirmation). Consent can only be given if one is not lied to. Now, if the man never even asked about birth control, and the woman never mentioned it, I would agree with you: he has had sex that was not against his will. But the supposition is that she has inf…
/r/MensRights18/10/21 04:12 PM
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There have been successful civil cases of fraud on it but they are difficult without documented evidence of some sort, such as a text message.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 04:05 PM
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Many men have been.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 04:04 PM
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I was in a great deal of discomfort afterward. I crawled up stairs, got into bed and didn't dare try coming down the stairs for three days – walking to the loo was bad enough. It's not everyone's experience, I know, but it does illustrate the range of after-effects.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 03:58 PM
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Worse than rape that leaves a woman with a child (or the terrible decision to have the child killed)? I'm not convinced. But I do think it is about as bad as that.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 03:54 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights18/10/21 03:51 PM
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A society that is actively hostile to men & masculinity is a society that needs help to recover.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/21 01:48 PM
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You seem to be assuming that the relevant politicians have not had this brought to their attention before. Moreover, you are assuming that the truth matters.
/r/MensRights17/10/21 10:31 PM
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1) Who gives a fig about what feminist say when male issues are discussed? Honestly, just stop with expectations that they care about men or boys. Stop caring about them or what they think. 2) Yes, men should have their own movement. They do. It is called the men's movement or more specifically the men's rights movement. The problem is that men are rather slow to realise that they need to step up and help society, because it is going to the dogs. Men, women and children all need men to stand up,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/21 10:09 PM
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In fairness, feminism does not make such claims. Find me any widely-accepted feminist author or any feminist organisation in the world—from UNWomen down—that says they are there for supporting all genders. I have asked this of many feminists over many years and never been told of any. The only people who make such claims are those who don't understand feminism, or want to defend feminism by continuing to lie about what feminism really is about, or those simply confused because of what they might…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/21 10:03 PM
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In a way, blaming feminism for creating man-hatred is like blaming rain for getting things wet. It's just how things are: they are built that way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 05:00 PM
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Quite a lot of what is called misogyny is a kind of respect. For example, I've been out with many good-looking women. Not one of them ever considered a wolf-whistle as other than a complement. Feminists insist that it is disrespectful and a sign of misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 04:53 PM
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Don't feel sad for me, just feel sad for the person in your mirror. I engage in proper argument with those able to put forward a supportable position do discuss.
/r/MensRights16/10/21 04:38 PM
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Ha ha ha. Use a mirror!
/r/MensRights15/10/21 11:19 PM
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I'm all over the place, politically. As I get older, I've felt that the left/right dichotomy is rarely helpful. People who define themselves by it often then seem to want to hold beliefs because of the definition, which creates discomfort and confusion in themselves and others.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 05:04 PM
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Here's a good example of that 'toxic masculinity' we hear so much about. No way would anyone not very masculine would have behaved like this policeman.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 05:00 PM
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Next time something like this happens, just ask the person what counselling they are going through to solve their mental health issue.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 04:50 PM
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Look in a mirror before you accuse me of that. At least I understand the issues and the influences. You have a lot to learn yet and spouting feminist indoctrination at me won't work.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 04:42 PM
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Where I think I disagree with you is that I believe that it would be hard but not impossible. As much as I might seem to you to be a pessimist, I'm not. I've just been around a lot longer, I suspect. As I say, you would change my mind if you could get even 50,000 men in one city to take to the streets for men's issues. I picked that figure because it would have to be quite a small city if it doesn't have 50,000 disenfranchised fathers, for example: that is, people with a direct and personal reas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 04:38 PM
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Most men don't feel any sympathy for fathers that get their children taken away because they aren't one of them, this is what we're dealing with. Mostly I agree with you but not with this statement. I think men do feel sympathy with other men but it's not enough for them to actually take action – because, as you say, they aren't suffering personally. Perhaps what is needed, is to make men fear. Make them have a realistic fear of their children being taken from them. Make them understand that the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 04:33 PM
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From a constitutionnal/humans rights perspective many concepts, such as equality and discrimination, have a precise definition. Equality for example in the continental European use is the treatment of people in a similar situation in a similar way. We are talking legal equality here, not this whole equality of opportunity vs equality of outcomes debate. Sorry, but already in Germany and in the UK there are influential jurists who would disagree with this definition. And that's the problem, even …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 04:22 PM
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C’mon the police in the UK were telling women not to go out alone after a few recent incidents of violence. False. After a recent murder, one policeman made such a comment. He has since been given a 'no confidence' statement, chastised publicly and publicly apologised. Not long ago, a UK politician was suggesting a curfew for men. She has not been castigated and has not given any apology. Meanwhile, around three times more men than women suffer violence on the streets.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 03:58 PM
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Yeah yeah .. feminism feminism. Tosh.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 11:59 AM
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We expect women to be rational creatures and only be scared when there is a reason. (That reason might only be a harmless house spider, but it is at least a reason.) However, feminism makes victims of women. Eternal victims. It tells women again and again (and again and again….) that they are not safe. So women, who have been protected and cossetted by men for thousands of generations, now feel that men are unsafe (yes, a very small minority of men are unsafe, possibly more than the number of un…
/r/MensRights14/10/21 11:54 AM
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This is a pretty comprehensive report. Just read the report I linked. It’s not very long. Do you not see the problem here? That is not a comprehensive report, it is barely more than a summary. You are relying on someone's (probably just one person's, by the way) analysis of data they picked out of a dozen or so sources. Why those sources and not others, should be your first question and the answer is most likely because those are the ones that support the conclusion the author wanted. You claim …
/r/MensRights14/10/21 11:39 AM
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Have a search for the PASK project. That is an independent summation of over half a million victims around the world: by far the biggest study ever. It is the natural place to start any research.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 11:02 AM
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I think this is the best kind of response to the "but most men suffer violence from other men". Bring up a really nasty example of female-on-female violence. Even ask whether anyone should care, since the victim and perpetrator were the same sex.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 11:00 AM
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There was a short period in the history of most developed nations where most women did not have to work outside the home, going to some job. A household was able to be supported on the man's income alone. Today, most women do not want to work outside the home, going to some job. However, most women do work because these days a single income is not usually enough to maintain the household (most of the second income going into land costs). They have been sold down the river by feminism, which coul…
/r/MensRights14/10/21 10:55 AM
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What you suggest is a pipe-dream. It won't work. Maybe I will change my mind if you can get 50,000 people in one city to march in protest on even one male issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 10:48 AM
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Equality means equality. Discrimination means discrimination. Minority means minority. Rape means rape. Even that statement is, in a way 'redefining' words. You might be redefining back to what they were fifty (or even ten) years ago but modern usage of such words is different these days. "Equality" is a good example. I work on issues from the United Nations, through national laws, down to local media. Nobody has a clue what "equality" means these days in social terms. At the top level, the inte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 10:42 AM
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No. Sorry, but you can't use this figure as an indicator of 'pay inequality between men and women'. It tells you nothing about pay at all. To do that would require—at the very least—an understanding of what other people in the household are doing, such as spending 70 hours/week away from the home earning money that the person doing housework lives from. But even that would be incomplete without a full analysis of every moment of people's lives, getting an understanding of the fulfilment (such as…
/r/MensRights14/10/21 10:20 AM
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For most people, natural parenting (without too much interference from society) is a great fulfilment. And thank goodness for that, or none of us would be here.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 10:08 AM
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How do you get that from what I said? Please read what I write, without feminist presumption.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 10:05 AM
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According to Karl Marx and his friend the Baron Engels, yes. After all, they grew up in households with paid servants, so it seemed right to them.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 04:17 PM
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No, no, that wouldn't work at all. The feminists want to BLAME MEN for not working around the home enough AND The feminists want to BLAME MEN for working outside the home too much ('gender pay gap'). Of course, there is a correlation between between these two things and most women don't want to work outside the house. But tough shit, women, 'cause feminism says you have to.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 04:14 PM
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The calculated figures are still useful. I doubt the figures are anything like accurate, based on my studies into other 'facts' propagated by the United Nations - an undemocratic feminist body. However, assuming even that the numbers are anything like correct, could you explain WHY it is useful to have them? How can it matter to anyone what the proportion of 'unpaid' labour is? How does it matter at all, particularly in absence of other relevant data? In what way is the calculation useful when d…
/r/MensRights13/10/21 04:03 PM
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To a feminist, caring about one's own children is wrong. Women shouldn't be doing that. One of feminism's biggest achievements is getting women to work instead of living off their man (and making him sandwiches <gasp>). In getting women to work, they move society closer to the 'utopia' where children are raised away from parents. And there are still women who think that feminism is good for them..
/r/MensRights13/10/21 03:52 PM
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I would have thought the UN would at least pretend to be a serious organisation. The United Nations is a serious organisation. It is a serious organisation that turned itself into a feminist organisation several years ago. So, take the organisation seriously but laugh at the nonsense they come out with.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 03:48 PM
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Just laugh off this kind of nonsense. The United Nations, as a feminist organisation, will continue to peddle false information like this and the only use it has for us is to illustrate what we are up against. I've not looked into this particular claim but I once looked into one of the "1 in 3 women in the world" claims. It was based on a report that something like 28% of women suffered; you and I might call that 1 in 4 but, hey, who's counting. So I looked into the 28% and found it was based on…
/r/MensRights13/10/21 03:45 PM
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Militancy need not mean violence. the use of confrontational or violent methods in support of a political or social cause. Being confrontational is necessary. The growing number of MRAs who are using the courts is an example: it is a confrontational process but there is no violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 03:18 PM
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Yes! As much as we can see feminism as being a success (sorry if that hurts, guys, but it has been very effective) and can learn from the strategies, the LGBQ (not so sure about the T or +) message has been very successful and is another source to learn from. The narrative we need about men is not just in clichés, though. One reason feminism is successful is that it changes the very language we use. New words are brought into use, and old words are given new meanings. This is one thing we need t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 03:15 PM
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I understand that we want to avoid becoming what we oppose but is there not a degree to which we need to become [our opponents] to be successful? Absolutely not. However, there may be something in adopting similar tactics, and even strategies. But in doing so, we must be certain that we do not become like them. This is one reason why – even on men's rights forums – I often insist that we do not lose sight of women's rights, we do not unduly impinge on them (that is, if we harm women's interests,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 02:58 PM
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Using Google gets to a bunch. I'll let you sort out which of them is the one you want: site:medium.com "toxic masculinity" psychology
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/21 07:54 PM
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Feminist woman: "When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression" Me: "I won't dispute your lived experience." Possibly with the addition, just to be clear: "Do you think that is a reason why other people shouldn't be just as privileged as you?" If it's a feminist man, I'll admit they always stump me a bit. Sometimes a feminist man will talk like a man and be open to factual discussion but more often he will be too ill with feminism to be able to think about facts. Leave him be, si…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 12:37 AM
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If feminism were not misandric but many of its followers were, a clear way to solve the problem would be to move into feminism, become 'real' feminists and teach the followers what feminism really is. However, that won't work. Feminism's sick ideology converts people to misandric belief patterns, even if they aren't aware of it. It is rooted in the concept that women were, are, and always will be disadvantaged in every way; and not only that but it is all men's fault. That problem can't be solve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 12:18 AM
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In some ways, her taking the man's name perhaps shouldn't be the deal-breaker. It can depend on why she is refusing to go along with it, if it is the custom in the country you will be living in. But in other ways, men get so little respect that her refusing to see herself as "Mrs You" is quite likely to be an enormous red flag that doesn't just say "don't marry her" it says "RUN!"
/r/MensRights01/10/21 03:41 PM
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What you need to do is find yourself first. Make your own life, determine your own path. That VERY rarely happens to men until they are in their late 20s, sometimes not until they are in their 30s. Then, you can take a look at the women around you and determine if you want to let any of them affect your life by being a partner. NEVER let your emotions fool you into thinking you have found 'the one' or that you can make a life-long commitment. There is always another woman (that's the first thing…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 11:14 PM
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You missed that when you do become the desired high-earning provider for your family, you are therefore going to be earning more than the average woman, and be socially blamed for the so-called gender pay gap.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 11:02 PM
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Actually that has little to nothing to do with it. How do you expect to get wide support, when what you are proposing is not in women's interests, nor in men's interests? Making lots of men (and women) pay for someone else's child is not going to be a solution that will be supported. If it were the status quo, it might be accepted because of the inertia to change, but to tell people "your taxes will go up to pay for someone else's child if you go with these proposals" is not a good start. ​ Ther…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 10:58 PM
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There are no useful statistics I know of, in any country around the world. Very seldom will a woman be prosecuted for perjury, particularly if she is going through divorce or has children. Some countries are getting better, particularly New Zealand, France and the UK, but even so, it is hard to get any kind of realistic figure. What you must avoid is assuming that incorrect information = perjury. It certainly is not, and the problem is that the only way to really know the difference is if enough…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 04:55 PM
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That's not the issue. Not for most men, anyway, and I have little sympathy for a man who will tell a woman to get an abortion. But the woman has options: Birth the child and have it adopted; Birth the child and dump it at some hospital or police station; Birth the child and kill it (still legal in some places, e.g. Canada, Virginia, Portugal) Keep the child and let the father know; Keep the child and don't tell the father; Have the child aborted (remember: statistically the least safe place for …
/r/MensRights29/09/21 04:44 PM
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It's not a matter of there being a hole in the condom. It's also a matter of destroying that condom's contents safely. Throw it in the bin, as many men will, and it can be fetched out of the bin, cut open and the content (ab)used. And don't think that oral sex is safe, either. There have been cases of women spitting out the sperm and pushing it inside them to get pregnant. By the time you take all the precautions you need to, I have to wonder whether you are really going to be enjoying having se…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 04:36 PM
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Personally I would be VERY wary of a law that allowed a man to change his mind about accepting legal paternity after the child was born. I think that is so very open to abuse and can't be good for society.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 04:32 PM
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No, you can't change that with just a tag. A tag is a nothing but a short-term promotional tool. Behind that promotion needs to be some thought. What is your way around the blockage that men paying taxes don't want to pay for some other man's child? Why should he?
/r/MensRights29/09/21 04:30 PM
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mention men backing out of a pregnancy and watch even the most "pro-choice" turn "no-choice" in an instant I find that very understandable from a position of someone who is against abortion. If someone is against abortion (which I see as pro-choice: it gives the child a choice), they would find it natural to be against men having financial abortion. To such people, I say: "Get vocal in your stance against abortion. Get vocal in your stance against paternity fraud. Because unless you do, an obvio…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 04:26 PM
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Only seven years, and you are already giving up? The men's rights movement will NEVER do any good when it is not willing to take the same long-view that feminists and other enemies of a healthy society are taking. Much that we do might never see fruition in our lifetime but if people hadn't been fighting for men fifty and more years ago, our lives today would be a lot worse. We have to see a mere seven years as just a time to get started. Society doesn't flip on its tail in the space of a couple…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 04:22 PM
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A major source for data on domestic violence is the Partner Abuse State of Knowledge project (PASK for short). The limitation is that it concentrates on intimate partner violence (IPV) but that seems to be what you are concentrating on. It is by far and away the largest global review of studies. In the last update, I believe the data is based on over half a million subjects. Nothing else gets close to this. They don't pull punches, they don't pretend, they explain what—from a societal aspect—par…
/r/MensRights29/09/21 02:04 PM
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I find that many people hold this "men commit more crime" view. It's 'common knowledge'. It was actually a retired policeman who helps me understand things from the police view who pulled me up short when I made that common claim. He said that any honest policeman will admit that they don't really know who commits most crime. It is feasible that more men that women do, but it is also feasible that women are better at avoiding detection and he explained that police—with a duty to reduce crime on …
/r/MensRights29/09/21 12:43 AM
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Show me statistics that prove who commits the majority of violence. I have looked for such and, on examination, found that none actually do (though there are many that make the claim). What statistics are these that you say don't lie? Point to them, please. ​ >People who have mostly been brought up by women. Are you targeting single mothers with this or just mothers in general? I am not targeting anyone. Are you denying that it is mothers who primarily bring up children?
/r/MensRights29/09/21 12:35 AM
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People commit the majority of crime. People who have mostly been brought up by women. You're interested in which sex those people are, I suppose, though I don't see why that matters (if someone bashes you on the head to steal your money, do you really care what sex or gender they are?). Well, I've looked into the data, wanting to prove or disprove the commonly-accepted notion that men commit most crime. But what I found was that: 1) most crime is not solved, the perpetrator remains unknown; and …
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:44 PM
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It's almost as though people don't know that men are the majority victims of violence, and men are the majority of people who chase down and catch murderers.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 04:01 PM
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If you search the internet, you'll find plenty of alternative articles.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 03:58 PM
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Now let's see how many women want equality.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 03:55 PM
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In fairness, NOW did have something on their website some years ago about scrapping the draft. It was around for at least a few months, though I've not seen it there for a few years.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 03:54 PM
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Since it is still an issue for you, complain to the college about it. Tell them that if you don't see them taking suitable action, you will have to consider talking with the police, as well as possibly suing the college.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 03:49 PM
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They are coming after (us) anyway. The only viable response is to be brave, stand up to this now, make a stand for a decent society. If we don't, things will only get worse and then we will think to ourselves 'if only I had.." when it may be too late.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 03:18 PM
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Just change the race, and the language. Put this in a political rally in Germany in the 1930s, where Goebbels said a very similar thing. Imagine the outrage if that happened in Germany today .. imagine the silence when it happens in Britain today.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 11:11 PM
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No one is doing that. A focus on one doesn’t ignore the other. Absolutely that is what is happening. If you want to check, go see what you can find at the United Nations (which is where these policies derive) on the subject of eliminating violence against men. Good luck if you find it.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 12:35 AM
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No. No, no. No, no, no. This is the trusted state broadcaster: they would never pull any underhand tricks to lie without being able to be punished for it. No, not them. No, never. Well, OK, yeah, it's the BBC's ideological 'journalists' up to their usual tricks.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 12:32 AM
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I don't think there is a single country in which women suffer more violence than men. Even domestically, men suffer about the same amount. Outside of domestic situations, they are by far the greater victim. Men are almost the only victim of state violence (war).
/r/MensRights24/09/21 04:49 PM
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Already, when commute time is taken into account (and why shouldn't it be?) men are under-earning compared to women. With the Civil Serpents (mostly women) refusing to return to the office and effectively being on strike to stay working from home, that gender commute gap is going to widen even further. This will just make the much-vaunted "gender pay gap" even worse, with men being even further disadvantaged.
/r/MensRights24/09/21 04:43 PM
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I would identify as a feminist since I believed in equals rights and opportunity. I would identify that you need to learn what feminism is. There is no feminist organisation I know of in the world, nor any wide-read feminist author, who even pretends that what they are about is "equal rights and opportunity" for both sexes. So there's your first lesson: find out what feminism is. Then you will find it easier to decide whether or not to associate with someone who is a feminist.
/r/MensRights21/09/21 08:35 PM
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William Collins has written well on this in his blog The Illustrated Empathy Gap. You don't say the country, though, and he writes mostly for the UK.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 11:01 PM
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You have it round the wrong way. It is not for you to provide a defence until they can provide a proof.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:56 PM
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Don't forget that the highest proportion of domestic abuse happens in lesbian relationships. Just because women are the victims, doesn't mean women aren't the abusers, too.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:54 PM
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It's varying. Most countries started of with a 1:2 male:female ratio as victims but—like Australia—are now heading toward a 1:1 ratio. I suspect part of this is men being increasingly willing to admit to being abused, part of it is because people are actually asking men (well, the United Nations still isn't..), and part of it is because women are generally becoming more like men as they suffer the stresses that men have had to tolerate for centuries.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:52 PM
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Most rapists do not hate women (though they don't care about them enough). Murders of women are incredibly unlikely to be misandry: not one in ten years in the UK has been. Most IPV is done to someone who is an intimate partner: which is to say, by someone who is attracted to that sex.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:48 PM
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Or simply a feminist.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:44 PM
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Absolutely. This is borne out by research. Men don't generally hate women; at most they are ambivalent about them. Women, on the other hand, have a strong in-group preference and men are very much on the outside of it.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:44 PM
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"Make the personal political" as the old feminists used to say. In other words, something nasty has been done to you (by a man) then that means all men are horrible, all the time.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:40 PM
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Thank you for that list. I hadn't been aware of Stemple's (seemingly positive) work on male victims. It's a shame that people haven't understood this innately (or maybe they have and that's why they don't want male victims to receive help): The Article argues that, paradoxically, neglecting male rape is bad for women and girls.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:36 PM
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On a balance of probabilities, i’m willing to bet women are more selfish in bed than men are. If not selfish in the bed, then selfish outside it before they'll get in it.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:00 PM
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It is becoming more normal to increase the retirement age of women, often while also hiking up men's retirement age, until the two are equal. Countries simply can't afford so many people to be in retirement for so long.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 09:51 PM
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You don't "force someone to" who wants to. What is being discussed is the mandatory/state age of retirement. In most places, individual arrangements can be made. Men USED to be the workhorses out of the home and looking after a home (in pre-electric days) took a lot of doing for the wife. Men and women used to die at around the same age. NOW however, we have "equality" and women for forty years have competed with men on the job market, while still enjoying the benefits of being kept out of the w…
/r/MensRights18/09/21 09:49 PM
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Frankly, I think that if you put LGBTI on, you would be cossetted and protected. It can't be used against you: they wouldn't dare!
/r/MensRights18/09/21 09:16 PM
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Feminism has never been about simple equality. Have a look at feminist statements from the 19th century onward and you will see that "equality for women" is the most commonly stated objective. (You can't, of course, have equality for only one part of society since that's not equality.) But feminism has never only been about equality. From the early years, it was also about gaining power and control and from the 1950s it became distinctly Marxist in its stated objectives.
/r/MensRights15/09/21 09:12 PM
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This idea that feminism was ever good (for women, men, children, dogs or cats) needs to be questioned. I know the feminists claim they got women the vote. But they didn't: that was mostly suffragists. Even if you accept the skewed version of history, if was suffragettes who got women the vote – and the feminist movement has always been distinct from the suffrage movements. I know the feminists claim they got women equal pay. But they didn't: that was mostly the women's liberation movement. That …
/r/MensRights15/09/21 04:59 PM
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Look up what feminists 60 years ago were saying: they want legal equality with men (but ignore men wanting it with women). Look up what feminists 30 years ago were saying: they want equality of opportunity with men (but don't want men to have it with women). Look up what feminists 10 years ago were saying: they want equality of outcome with men (but won't consider men having it with women). Look up what feminists these days were saying: they want equity (better benefits because..) with men (but …
/r/MensRights15/09/21 02:55 PM
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I disagree. I think the term 'feminism' has meaning. There are feminist organisations, feminist writings, feminist films and plays, and feminist courses in universities (and now in schools). It is these that define what feminism is, since it is they who cause changes in societal attitudes (even to the language we use), changes in the law, and changes in culture. If someone says, for example, that they are a feminist who disagrees with hating men, they are actually saying that all the influential…
/r/MensRights15/09/21 02:41 PM
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Right, so when they are asking for your 'gender' what they really want to know is your sex. That is clear from the options and it would be disingenuous to pretend they really mean gender, even though that's what they are asking. Since X includes 'unspecified' you should be safe to select that and let the reader assume what they will (you are simply not specifying). According to some shrinks, we are ALL somewhere on a line between absolute homosexuality and absolute heterosexuality (don't worry: …
/r/MensRights15/09/21 02:28 PM
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Women have greater wealth than men in most western nations. This gets particularly clear as you look at older women, though younger men—despite earning less per hour on average than young women—are wealthier.
/r/MensRights15/09/21 12:05 AM
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First, feminists agree that women have been, and continue to be, disadvantaged relative to men. According to almost every metric that exists to measure people’s quality of life—health, wealth, political participation and representation, security and freedom, subjective reports of happiness, and so on—women don’t fare as well as men. You know what, I do believe that feminists are getting better at humour. This one would make a great stand-up comic with lines like that. The bit that spoils it is t…
/r/MensRights15/09/21 12:03 AM
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Helping one group does not necessarily disadvantage another. For example, ensuring equality under the law, so that judgements and sentencing are blind to sex, race, colour, and whatnot, would be in everyone's long-term interest and need not cost anyone anything (so long as you reduced some sentences while increasing others).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/21 11:48 PM
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Indeed, though we can obviously acknowledge situations in which a group defined by some characteristic is in fact discriminated against. For example, your country almost certainly has a number of laws which specifically disadvantage men but almost certainly none which specifically advantage men. So men as a group can be said to have disadvantages: every single one of them, regardless of who they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/21 11:44 PM
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And IF that is true, women should get support because of it. And they do. Bucketloads of it. But men aren't getting support, regardless of whom one blames for their problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/21 11:33 PM
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If men (and the women who care for men and boys) were to stop voting for the political party based on class, or on the over-simplistic left/right dichotomy, or the very common reason of who they believe is going to take a penny off their tax bill.. If they started to ask "what are you doing about the problems experienced by men and boys" and "what does your manifesto say about helping men or boys?" and then voted according to the best answer.. If the electorate kicked out the feminist appeasers …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/21 11:31 PM
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You seem to be talking of the UK. For most of the time that men could vote, women could too, because it wasn't actually a personal vote but a vote for the household. So land-owning women could vote, and did, though it was the general practice (because of who was most interested in politics) that it would be the man of the house voting. Only for a few decades from something like 1850 were women actually banned from voting, in a bad attempt to stop both adults voting for the same household. For mo…
/r/MensRights14/09/21 03:47 PM
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Censorship has always been a necessary part of feminism. In order to push their conspiracy theories like 'The Patriarchy' it is necessary to ignore much of the world's evidence. So it is ignored, and always has been unacceptable to discuss reality within feminist circles.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 03:41 PM
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My own database has Finland as giving the vote to both men and women in 1917 (I think that data may have come the CIA WorldFactBook). Looking for corroboration, this site says that men and women got universal suffrage (then, for adults over 23) in 1906/07: On March 15 and 16, 1907, European history was made in the towns and rural hamlets of Finland. Every citizen aged 24 and over, the humblest maid and crofter included, was allowed to vote. A paper on Suffrage, gender and citizenship in Finland,…
/r/MensRights14/09/21 03:27 PM
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This is a question I asked myself recently. In most of countries most men gained the right to vote one or two decades before women. And the reason that women got universal suffrage in most countries was only because men gained it. Then, those men gave women the vote. In most nations, the fight for suffrage cost many men's lives – anything from dozens to literally millions, depending how you count it and how far back you look – whereas women often gained the vote with no loss of life or even libe…
/r/MensRights14/09/21 02:23 PM
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Too often, this will be met with something like "I agree but.. ..we need to concentrate on women ..those with historic issues need to have the balance redressed ..now let's concentrate on <one group or another, rarely males, rarely white, rarely older>" To this kind of thing, I reiterate that everyone's human rights are important and that any time any one group has had their rights promoted in preference to another (favoured) group, civil strife has followed.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 02:18 PM
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On the suicide and therapy aspect, I have read some studies which indicate a high incidence of suicide in the early stages of therapy. This, it is conjectured (i.e., not proven well enough yet) is because of the extra mental difficulties when starting therapy: the patient has to start to confront their issues, making them more vulnerable. This impacts many more, probably because women have often talked to someone sympathetic about their problems already. A corollary of this is that suicide figur…
/r/MensRights14/09/21 02:13 PM
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That would, perhaps, help to raise the issue of just how much we all rely on masculine men. One of the 'problems' with such a policy is that it flies in the face of human nature. Men WANT to protect their woman and children, they have a deep-seated NEED to be of use and to be the protector. And also, while many women will (naturally) take advantage of the social advantages she is handed, most women don't actually identify as feminist. Is it fair to punish them (as well as all the men and childre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/21 01:48 PM
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Whenever there is a disaster, who rushes in to help make sure people are safe and rescued? The masculine people. Whenever there is armed conflict that has to be settled, which people go to help sort it and restore peace to the world? The masculine ones. When your family is scared of spiders/the monster under the bed/the noise downstairs, which member of the household do they look for? The masculine one. If you want a safe world, the very last thing you do is get rid of masculinity. Masculinity s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 12:13 AM
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but I can say I’m a casual feminist? cause I believe in women’s rights One of the reasons (I don't pretend it is the biggest) that I am an anti-feminist is because I support women's rights. I support the rights of all people, including all women. Feminism doesn't really support women, and certainly not the vast majority who aren't Marxists or high-flying academics with 5-figure salaries.
/r/MensRights12/09/21 11:57 PM
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According to the going paradigm, your gender is what you think of yourself. Be very sure of the law on this. Also take account of whether they are asking if your 'gender' is man or woman, or if it is masculine or feminine. If the former, they probably mean to be asking your sex, regardless of the word they use to describe it. In some jurisdictions you are automatically feminine gender if a woman and masculine gender if a man unless you have some kind of formal legal recognition (this varies betw…
/r/MensRights12/09/21 02:45 AM
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I suggest you look up the signatories to the Istanbul Convention. There's no point moving to any of those countries (I'm in one). Then look up the countries that support UN Women. They know that this is the heart of international feminism and if they spend taxpayer's money on it, there's no point moving to that country. Then look up countries that have things like "Violence against women" laws or policies ("Violence against everyone" laws or policies are absolutely fine). Now, can you find a cou…
/r/MensRights12/09/21 02:10 AM
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Yes, it is that last bit of your statement that is the sickening part of pages like this, and the sheep who follow them. I don't have too much of a problem with people who won't fight for men's and boy's rights and dignities but people like this actively fight against men and boys. And that is horrible, as are those who support them.
/r/MensRights01/09/21 09:59 PM
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I started to answer them for myself: Yes, though to be fair, 'rape' in my country can legally only be committed by a male, so the question is a bit of a trap. A misandrist trap, at that. See the SCUM societies (part of the 'dark web'). Yes, taking the word 'terrorist' with a pinch of salt, since I don't know of any male terrorists who fit the definition either. Most human traffickers—especially the first-contact people—are female. No. Nor is there any male led country of that description, so it'…
/r/MensRights01/09/21 09:55 PM
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Even then, the conviction of a man for raping a woman is very low. I don't know which country you are in but are you SURE of what you say, there? Certainly feminists will spread and repeat again and again this 'fact' but in countries I have looked into, the conviction rate for rape is about the same, sometimes higher, than the average conviction rate for all crimes. Continually presenting this as though it were true does not help solve rape, by the way. I hope nobody here thinks well of rapists,…
/r/MensRights01/09/21 09:34 PM
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As someone who fights for men's rights internationally, my main fall-back resource is the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. I don't agree with it all, I think it reflects the second world war too much (it was ratified just three years after millions of men had died in that war) and some parts don't seem very well structured but it is the internationally-accepted definition of rights that we should all have. I think all activists would do well to re-read it at least once a year, along w…
/r/MensRights01/09/21 09:20 PM
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I am neither a lawyer nor Canadian but given that Canada's legal system is based on England's, there is a very good chance that this law will be able to be interpreted in favour of either sex, yes. And men must use this law. That doesn't make the entire Act pointless, however. Changing 'equality' to 'equity' will have an impact: few people will chose to work in a harsher environment than in a softer one, if the law says that people must be paid the same in both. In Colorado and Washington, USA, …
/r/MensRights01/09/21 09:12 PM
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It has been illegal for a long time. That is why, for the same work, women get paid the same as men. The objective of laws like this is to have women paid the same as men when they do different work that is deemed equivalent. So, for example, a shop assistant (who will not apply for a job in a cold, dusty, warehouse where they have to do manual labour) will demand to be paid the same as a man working in the company's warehouse.
/r/MensRights01/09/21 04:31 PM
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Better to be angry but controlled about it. Activate, advocate, and vote accordingly.
/r/MensRights01/09/21 04:26 PM
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While it is inexcusable to write such a law (this kind of thing is appearing in many countries; e.g. in the UK's recent Domestic Abuse Act) nevertheless the courts would probably have to consider the mention of 'female' as including 'male'. From Canada's Interpretation Act: 33 (1) Words importing female persons include male persons and corporations and words importing male persons include female persons and corporations. The problem is that there is a little extra battle involved just to make su…
/r/MensRights01/09/21 04:24 PM
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if you think this sub is good, are you able to explain why a list of recommended sites is not 'that good of a list' for including it? I'm sure I'm not the only one confused by your logic.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 04:19 PM
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You don't think a list of recommended sites should include this site? If you think it's that bad, I wonder why you are here.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 12:44 AM
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Fine, then write to them and offer to do the work you are suggesting. The more people who are involved, the less work for all – or the more effect for men's rights.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:19 AM
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Shouldn't you offer to do this, if you are so convinced it is worth someone's time. I realise this is not the activism sub but these things take time. If you want there to be yet another Men's Rights site on those platforms, you could create it yourself.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:02 AM
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For other sites, take a look at the recommended sites listed on Justice for Men & Boys. The non-British sites start about halfway down.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 11:57 PM
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To you mind, does the conversation have to be with the person she is going to fuck? What if she says to her girl-friend "Let's go out tonight. I want to get drunk, meet a guy and have him fuck me" (and yes, this does happen, quite a lot in some circles). Is it then rape when she gets what she wants?
/r/MensRights02/08/21 03:16 AM
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I suggest asking your own MP to intervene and get a response from them. The chances are that while the HRC have no obligation to respond to you, they will have to respond to your MP. To get your MP to take it seriously, you could politely ask whether you think any response is likely, or whether you would do better to take the matter to the media. While it is a slightly hollow threat (because the media are unlikely to care) the slight chance of adverse publicity is often enough to stir people int…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 05:54 PM
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I don't know why you think I would write off a video just because of it being on TikTok. It is the content, and the extent to which that content matches real-world reports from reliable sources, that matters. There's also one of the manwomanmyth videos on YouTube that covers this topic. Like the rest of his videos, well worth a watch.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 05:43 PM
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It doesn’t really matter that women are around children more, so that’s an excuse for more abuse? There is no excuse being made, other than in your mind. The opportunity to do harm can make a difference when looking at statistics of harm done. In this instance, just imagine an extreme situation in which men were never around children: would you still be saying that the comparison between the harm men and women do to children should not take into account the amount of time each spend with childre…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 05:38 PM
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That I choose not to write a complete dissertation in response to someone who already knows too little history and sociology is not cause for you imagining that what I have written elsewhere needs to be written specifically just to refute your propaganda.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 05:32 PM
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But can you consent before not being in your right mind? If a woman says "I just want to get drunk and then fuck, ok?" is it rape when she later gets fucked? I think there is room for a lot more grey area in this stuff than the feminist narrative permits.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 03:00 AM
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They used the CDC report from 2010 and said it suggests that men and women are raped in equal numbers. I think they may have meant to put a comma after this part: "Yet male rape is rarely reported and frequently minimized, as will be shown by the 2010 CDC National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey" Separating the CDC Survey from saying "other sources in this paper which will show that male rape happens about as often as female rape, and possibly exceeds it" which presumably means they …
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:58 AM
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Anyone who engages in sexual intercourse with someone who is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, unconscious, oblivious to their surroundings or not able to voice dissent can be charged with the crime of rape. A big part of the problem is that this is only true in a minority of jurisdictions. Most places legally define rape as only being possible by a male. Still, if only because it appears to be a scholarly report, even if it is as inaccurate as anything the feminists turn out, it might ha…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:52 AM
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Boris Johnson.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:36 AM
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You mean like Proctor & Gamble, owners of the Gillette brand that brought out misandric advertising and still have not apologised to their customer base, despite massive profit losses as men continue to boycott them.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:35 AM
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Name a politician from a mainstream conservative party that has self-identified as a feminist. I'm wondering where you live to have a right-wing party without many senior members declare they are feminist. Hungary has such a party in power (and don't they get some international stick for it!) and Spain has such a party which is only strong in the south of the country. The others that come to mind are all minor, only able to govern in coalition if at all (e.g. in Canada, Albania, Australia, Franc…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:31 AM
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The apparent success you have noted in the last ten years is due to planning carefully many decades ago, including infiltrating (I can justify that word) first the League of Nations and then the United Nations. What you have seen in the last ten years is nothing compared to what they intend over the next ten.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:08 AM
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For a brief time after the war a single adult could make enough but quickly that situation has returned to the normal of two working adults. Because it benefits the elites. It sure as fuck didn't benefit women now, did it? Rowland, who has an excellent series of videos under the moniker of manwomanmyth, says that feminism should really be called 'get-women-to-workism'. A massive con job pulled on women. Who, given the relative luxury women were enjoying as countries became technologically wealth…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:05 AM
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I'm glad that is the last time you'll attempt to convince people that feminism – certainly modern feminism – is not a Marxist agitator movement. The middle-class Marx and his friend, the Baron Engles, themselves wrote about female oppression and posited women as an oppressed group. I agree that Feminist Patriarchy Theory and Marx class struggle concepts don't make sense, but then very little of feminism does and most of it is contradictory. Yet in a way, the invention of 'The Patriarchy' is a di…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 01:57 AM
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The reason I said that "they sometimes got in the way" is because I don't know every country's situation. I think in Belgium, for example, they might have been helpful in getting women at least the National vote, if not the provincial vote. In Australia, they were largely an irrelevance to the outcome. When men got universal suffrage, they gave it to women (that's the case in most countries). In the UK, the militant suffragettes (the ones that country's history is tied to) definitely did the cau…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 01:40 AM
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If the guy had thrown his drink in her face, he would be up on assault charges. Absolutely the wrong thing to do.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 01:28 AM
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I tend to agree IF THERE WAS EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW. And, like I said, I suspect many feel as you do, which is why the headline is about slapping his butt, not about the more serious assault charges: the paper is trying to pass this off as a joke. I still think it is a step forward, even at that. Some will not read it as a joke. Some, knowing that if the sexes were around the other way a man could be facing jail time, will welcome this being taken seriously. In a country which treats a wolf whi…
/r/MensRights31/07/21 01:27 AM
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What nonsense are you spouting now, trying to dissuade people from accessing information that is away from feminist ideology. Your 5th-columnist feminist tactics won't work with anyone with two brain cells.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 10:23 PM
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Even just seeing this as a headline is a step forward. I'm sure there will be many wondering why the girls should be in court over this, since most people don't seem to accept that a man's body is his own, not the property of whichever woman wants to do whatever she likes with him. But there will be many others who start to get the message that perhaps – just maybe – men do deserve the same rights as women.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 10:10 PM
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…one of the earliest victories of the movement they’re part of, along with … the vote itself If often find it strange how many people have fallen for the idea that feminism got women the vote. It did not. There is a better argument that suffragettes got women the vote, though mostly they didn't, either (and they sometimes got in the way). In the Seneca Falls conference widely spoken as being the first national feminist meeting, suffrage wasn't on the agenda and it was only a man who convinced th…
/r/MensRights30/07/21 08:42 PM
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No I mean the one confirmed by the records in Russia and revealed after the people finally kicked communism out.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 08:25 PM
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Are daycare workers counted in this number... It's when you start getting into the detail that the picture gets murky. Things like whether only parents are considered, whether foster parents are included, what is considered child abuse (some reports take a single incidence as abuse, others only look for a pattern of abuse. etc.) and what age a person is to be considered, all change from one study to the next. I'm not sure just how much difference including or excluding daycare workers would make…
/r/MensRights30/07/21 07:33 PM
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I have no intention to digress, here, into other areas of discussion with you based upon what you think my opinion might be. I responded to one point, which I quoted: Comparing war deaths with voting rights maks no sense I have answered that point. If you don't like it, tough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 03:33 PM
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Oh what a sheltered life you lead if you are unaware of the culture of some young women to go out, get drunk, and have sex. I see your feminism is too entrenched for a chance of sensible discourse. I appreciate your attempts to discuss the matter, though.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 03:29 PM
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I've read that before the infact act of 1839. children went to the father in case of a divorce, is this true? (You mean, I think, the Custody of Infants Act of 1839.) Not quite true, no. Following an 18th century legal decision, Fathers had a right to their children following divorce (I'm not quite sure what the situation was prior to the 18th century legal determination in favour of fathers). For various reasons the father might very well choose not to have them with him, if the mother was reli…
/r/MensRights30/07/21 03:22 PM
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Years of study, involving digging into the detail behind matters. A major starting place for data on domestic abuse is the PASK project. I can also recommend the Illustrated Empathy Gap (both the book and website); although mostly UK-based, we can all learn from the ways of examining data and uncovering the truth.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 02:54 PM
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A man should not have sex with anyone. Not in today's society of toxic feminism. So we have found some agreement. But your misandry is showing when you keep insisting that the man — and only the man — has done something wrong when both man and woman are drunk. She is having sex with a drunk man: how is she not guilty of as heinous a crime? And you keep skirting the issue of consent when her entire objective was to get drunk and have sex. You are denying the woman the ability to make up her own, …
/r/MensRights30/07/21 02:45 PM
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It was Karl Marx and his chum the Baron Engels who came up with the theory of gender oppression. It is out of that contradictory theory that Patriarchy Theory came as an almost inevitable result when mixed with pre-Marxist feminism. Socialists might dislike feminism (most people do) but personally I see a divide between socialism and Marxism. I know several socialists who disdain the middle-class Marx & Engels concept of a Utopian workers' society. Certainly feminism and capitalism work to have …
/r/MensRights30/07/21 02:35 PM
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You probably won't want to, for many other reasons. Mexico. Longevity is not high compared to many other nations but it is at least roughly equal.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 02:29 PM
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In most Western countries, women abuse (right up to and including murder) children more than men. When the numbers of incidences is adjusted by the estimated degree that women are more likely to be around children, and more likely to have been granted sole custody of children, the numbers come out roughly even, with women remaining predominant in child abandonment (including starvation) and men predominant in sexual abuse. Boys suffer most from women; girls are the primary target of sexual abuse…
/r/MensRights30/07/21 10:51 AM
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If both people are intoxicated, it comes down to the details of what happened ... Being intoxicated means there is no consent to what someone does to you. Make your mind up. Is being intoxicated, by itself, and indicator of non-consent, or does it depend on other factors? If being intoxicated is enough in itself, then I come back to the question I asked: if both are drunk, are they raping each other? If being intoxicated is not enough without considering other factors, then to what extent does i…
/r/MensRights30/07/21 10:44 AM
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Ah, well, if you are going to start talking like that, I see you have sick beliefs that are beyond my ability to help you with. I hope you get well soon.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 10:37 AM
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boys end up going to jail more True. and being more violent than girls Not so well proven. Evidence is that more street violence is done my males but that more domestic violence is done by women. And that is taking violence in its old, physical, meaning. Taking violence to include all kinds of abusive and controlling behaviour, I suspect that females will be the majority perpetrator both in and out of the house, though I know of no reliable study so far.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 04:14 AM
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There has been so much written, in so many countries, from people on (almost) all parts of the political spectrum about this. There is be no doubt: stable families are good for adults, good for children, good for the next generation and good for society. That is why the stable family is specifically targeted by feminism, whose purpose it is to destroy the current culture and bring in Marxism. Strong families, supported by capable men, were identified as a problem in this goal back in the 1930s b…
/r/MensRights30/07/21 04:09 AM
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There is one country in the world where men live about as long as women. Interestingly, it is a country which spends about the same on men's health as it does on women's (excluding maternity care).
/r/MensRights30/07/21 04:04 AM
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Do you know if the data you quote takes into account the millions who died in the Russian holocaust?
/r/MensRights30/07/21 04:02 AM
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Having scanned the law, I see it is really only Brazil's implementation of CEDAW. Coming to a country YOU live in soon enough, courtesy of the feminist misandry from United Nations.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 03:55 AM
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Tut tut. Didn't you know that in today's nonsensical world, men don't always have a penis and women don't always have a vagina? How, er, genderist of you!
/r/MensRights30/07/21 03:53 AM
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As a male, you are in a sub-human class. But for pity's sake don't accept that. Stay angry about it. Learn, advocate, activate. Because if you don't it will be a heck of a lot worse for the next generation.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 03:43 AM
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If your child identify with masculinity (which is likely) then he needs a good model of what masculinity is (instead of focusing on what it should not be). I have to disagree strongly with this. It is well known that most girls identify with femininity. That model doesn't have to be a father necessarily, but he needs to have somewhat regular encounters with the child and he needs to identify with masculinity too. You don't have to be a genius to understand this. This is not supported by the data…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 03:35 AM
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Why would a law be created to exclude people who never had a voting right? Laws are created to change a situation, not to perpetuate it. Women could vote, did vote, and in some boroughs may have outnumbered men voting. Those would be wealthy women, of course, since it was only the wealthy land owners who had the vote. I'm not sure but I think the law to stop women voting was to enforce the 'one household, one vote' concept that existed: in other words, to stop a husband and wife both voting. Vot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 03:24 AM
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What? I mean, really? Where in this stream did I say ANYTHING about women or discrimination? Please do make an effort to understand what is being stated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 03:17 AM
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It is not misogynistic to acknowledge what women want, or have wanted. It might be anti-feminist but that must never be confused, regardless of how some people try.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 03:14 AM
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So you are saying that being intoxicated, on its own, is not enough to define rape?
/r/MensRights29/07/21 01:56 AM
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For those wanting more detail, I recommend William Collins book 'The Empathy Gap'. Much of the detail on suffrage can also be read at his website The Illustrated Empathy Gap and he has a video of a speech he made at Oxford a while ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 11:19 PM
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I will re-create the post with the YouTube link to start with. Maybe that will do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 11:17 PM
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so basically feminists are doing to us now what men did to women decades ago with voting and other things, denying our problems while getting mad if we said anything remotely close to denying anything about the high rape statistics. How do you make this out? In every country, not all women wanted to have the vote, often believing that it would remove something of their femininity and mean they would have to take more responsibility for themselves. But as soon as enough women showed they clearly …
/r/MensRights28/07/21 11:14 PM
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You have a good point that (most) rapists will deny being guilty. But what has that to do with false accusations? On the drunken sex issue, I wonder. Are you not aware of the culture of young women (thankfully my own daughter was not among them, AFAIK) who will go out to get drunk and have sex? The point of consent, I would say, is when they made that decision. Also, what do you have to say if the person having sex with them (whether male or female) is also drunk? Does that mean they are each ra…
/r/MensRights28/07/21 11:07 PM
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The stark differences in punishment for these respective crimes. I agree. False rape accusations do massive damage to most men accused, which is often the motivation for make the claim. Rape can also do massive damage, though with decent counselling, that harm can be minimised. So deliberately false accusations (as opposed to mistaken identity, the 'was it rape' grey areas, etc.) should be punished very heavily. Even from a woman's perspective it should be appreciated that false accusations of r…
/r/MensRights28/07/21 11:02 PM
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A feminist will not be swayed by any presentation of factual data. If she's not quite a feminist, then just ask how many of her friends have been raped. If she insists that 1 in 3 have, then shrug your shoulders and walk away. But if she's honest and admits that — like most women — she doesn't actually know of a woman who has been raped, then that should be enough for her to think about, once you link her reality to what she is parroting from feminists. In giving speeches to groups of up to 50 w…
/r/MensRights28/07/21 10:48 PM
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There's two words used for conning a man into paying for a child that's not his: Paternity Fraud There's one word for forcing that man to pay for something he had no responsibility for: Slavery
/r/MensRights28/07/21 10:36 PM
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Thank you for letting me know. I have changed the link to point to YouTube, a site I try to avoid. The Untold History of Universal Suffrage in the UK Recorded at Oxford Town Hall
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 10:15 PM
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Believe that problems can be addressed by practices and policies that are informed by science rather than ideology. Surely that covers the 'ought'? What I don't like about it, which is otherwise something like an essentialist, is the sentence "They tend to believe that social problems effecting men stem from the fact that the humans have cavemen brains living in modern times." I'm not convinced of that at all, while being fairly sure that we are biological creatures and thousands of generations …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 05:31 PM
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Between 1884 and 1918 around 56% of men had the vote and women — for the first time ever in the UK — were specifically excluded. That is hardly a blip in time, historically, and is very little when compared with the many thousands of men who had fought to get the vote over centuries. http://empathygap.uk/?p=2600
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 05:19 PM
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Comparing war deaths with voting rights maks no sense Unless you believe, as many in Parliament did at the time, that men who were being asked to sacrifice themselves for their country deserve the right to vote and determine the future of what they were fighting for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 05:13 PM
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Which scenario is more believable: 1) Knowing she had a knife in her hand, he started to strangle her and she stabbed him in self defence; 2) Without a weapon to hand, he tried to strangle her in self defence to stop her killing him with a knife she was coming at him with. It is really good to see news stories with headings making it clear that this is a woman who killed a man. When I started working for men's rights, we never saw that, or if we did it would have been along the lines of "Woman d…
/r/MensRights28/07/21 05:07 PM
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I'm sorry but I got lost in your point in the midst of your analogy. For sure, there could and should be more information about fatherlessness and its effects. But we are still in a society in which the indicative problems of fatherlessness are almost unknown. Fatherlessness is still being increased by laws and policies that have caused it. Research into fatherlessness is refused funding, while yet another bunch of money is given, for example, to yet another feminist study on domestic violence (…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 03:53 PM
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it's a collective observation, not a generalisation Rubbish. Read what you wrote again there. 'Collective observation' means either: 1) You have observed every member of a collective — in which case you would know that not every member (in fact very very few of them) fit the feminist Patriarchy Theory. OR 2) You have observed some members of a collective and made an assumption about the rest — which is what is called a generalisation. Generalisations have uses. Without them, we cannot think, can…
/r/MensRights28/07/21 03:38 PM
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You're right that our living conditions have improved. That doesn't mean there's no room for improvement still. But you want to stop that huge improvement to the world's living standards. You want to tear the system apart and destroy it. Send all that benefit back to the stone ages, along with the rest of the world. Of course there's room for improvement. There is ALWAYS room for improvement. But you don't often get improvement by ruining something that is working. I never said the world was dom…
/r/MensRights28/07/21 03:29 PM
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I am saying to statistically compare people (both men and women) who grew up without a father to those who grew up with a father. As an side issue, I am saying to be open to consider whether the problem is only having one parent v. having both parents. But the number of motherless households may be too few to garner reliable statistical data. What I haven't said before but will do now, is that it is worth considering the distinction between growing up with both natural (actual) parents and growi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 08:11 PM
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You have some misandric outlooks on life but I'm finding it hard to fathom why you think you are a feminist.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 08:02 PM
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Given that lesbian households are under 2% of the total, the statistical deviation it could possibly make is smaller than error deviation in any statistical study, so is an irrelevant point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 03:35 PM
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No, not really. The comparison that is relevant is children from father-free households against children from father-inclusive households. Those are the two primary conditions children live under. That is the single issue that male advocates need to be concerned with, while not ignoring that mother-free households might also be a problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 03:33 PM
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I don't have links but when I looked into the same question many years ago, I discovered that children made motherless at a young age (I don't recall exactly but something like up to 7 or 8 years old) tend to become dysfunctional older children and social hazards in much the same way that fatherless children are. Children (boy or girl) who become motherless after puberty don't show up on statistics as being deviant from the norm. But motherless children are so very much rarer in society that whi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 03:29 PM
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What a load of feminist codswallop, seemingly supported by pseudo-science. I can't blame the OP, though. Like many of us, I suspect, I too was once so confused about the real world. It can take years of gradual deprogramming and learning to dig out that common knowledge (even on something as scientifically evident as testosterone) is actually just feminist lies. One problem is that there are vast amounts of feminist literature on just about any subject and any topic. It can appear to be scientif…
/r/MensRights27/07/21 03:17 PM
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Don't let yourself be sandbagged. It is only the OP who used the word 'evil'. I don't know of any feminist taken seriously (e.g. leading a feminist organisation, or sold more than a few thousand books) who is not anti-male and openly expresses her or his misandry.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:57 PM
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I've truly never come across any feminist who claimed all men were inherently evil. You have to be joking! The name that springs most to mind is Andrea Dworkin but read Julie Bindel, Pauline Harmange, Sally Miller Gearhart for other extreme examples. I don't think I've read a feminist book that didn't have some open expression of misandry.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:53 PM
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It is women who want and expect men to be powerful. This is why women are notably more likely then men to vote for a male candidate over a female candidate. It is not some social construct invented in the last hundred, or two thousand, years. It is what makes women happy because men have a desire to be pleasing to women, so men in power are in women's general interest. Every study of the subject has found that the more feminist a society, the less happy women are.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:45 PM
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Feminine men are valid Nobody is saying they aren't. But just as I have to acknowledge that my not wanting children is a social and evolutionary dead-end, so too is it correct to say that "A society full of feminized and weak men is a problem". No society has lasted where too high a proportion of men are weak and feminized. No society has lasted where too high a proportion of women are weak and masculinized. Such a thing is a social problem. Individual men who are weak or feminized are not a soc…
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:39 PM
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What part of feminist writing supports the idea that women can be (let alone are) privileged? I'd genuinely like to know, because I've read and heard a lot about how even wealthy women living in rich countries are oppressed and discriminated against compared to the lowest conditions of any men around the world, but I've yet to discover any version of feminism that allows that a woman can be privileged.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:33 PM
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Having a preference isn't racist. But generalising people from an entire region of the world is man. Oh, that's rich, that is. You don't like generalisations? How about not just from a region but from the entire world? Just from the top part of the OP: ...femaleness is associated with submission to that primary [masculine] power... Women hold power over men in these aspects... ...notice how certain priviliges enjoyed by man is stemming from the oppresion of women... (And that last is not only ge…
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:30 PM
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Having a preference isn't racist. But generalising people from an entire region of the world is man. Oh, that's rich, that is. You don't like generalisations? How about not just from a region but from the entire world? Just from the top part of the OP: ...femaleness is associated with submission to that primary [masculine] power... Women hold power over men in these aspects... ...notice how certain priviliges enjoyed by man is stemming from the oppresion of women... (And that last is not only ge…
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:30 PM
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I'll try my hardest to advocate for both instead of making the same mistakes as the western feminist movement did. What gives you the right to call yourself a feminist when you say you support both sexes? Please link to even one feminist organisation or notable feminist book that supports, or even discusses supporting men (other than in helping them to bow down to feminism). Feminism is not a belief system that supports men or boys (or even most women but that's something different). You even sa…
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:08 PM
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Because it is the best system that has ever existed. Ordinary people have hot and cold running water at the turn of a tap, electricity at the flick of a switch, reliable and effortless sewage disposal, advanced medical care, efficient transport, awesome communications and a whole host of other benefits. Damn. Please look at the statistics of how many people don't have these things. Damn. Then look at how many more people have them in today's world than they did even just 20 years ago, let alone …
/r/MensRights27/07/21 01:58 PM
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Feminism has always been outside of the Western World. Most of the policies feminism now implements were put together in Germany, heavily influenced by Hungarian and Italian communists. However, Asia has had an input all along. One of the earliest global women's meetings was in Turkey, and some of the most influential international feminist work has come from meetings held in China.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:15 AM
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UNWomen. That's the feminist arm of the United Nations, formed 12 years ago from a merger of UNFem with several other feminist groups in the UN. They struggle to get by on around $510,560,000 per year and directly influence feminist organisations in every country. UNWomen has controlling power over almost every other part of the United Nations, hence some of the stupidities like the environmental objectives including feminist goals, or the health wing of the UN campaigning to prevent FGM even in…
/r/MensRights27/07/21 02:13 AM
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Well said. When it comes to being oppressed and disadvantaged, nothing beats being dead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 01:18 AM
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More likely unconscious gender bias and misandry. There's not even any evidence about gender. The issue is about fatherlessness. While we can make assumptions about the gender of fathers who bring up successful, well-adjusted children, it's not really for anyone to start inferring more than the data states and making gendered claims about fathers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 01:09 AM
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There is far too little study being done on this most critical area of social work to be positive about causality and what might result from primary indicators and what result from secondary indicators. I would be shocked if these statistics would apply to a household with lesbian parents, for example. Most of this data simply looks at whether someone had a father at home. Statistically — which is what we are talking about here — and given that there has been woefully little funding for proper s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/21 01:05 AM
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What makes you think I share any ideals with feminism? What makes you think I have any benefit from feminism? Your comment is one of the weirdest I've read on this kind of forum for a long time.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 04:57 AM
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Arkansas passed excellent custody reforms I take your points, thank you. I just wanted to say on this aspect, that having legal reforms and seeing change are two different things. In Germany, UK, Peru, for examples, there is legislation for equal custody as the default position if the parents don't live together. However, the practice of giving into power-hungry women, has if anything worsened for fathers and children even in those countries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 04:51 AM
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YOU should post it, too. One of the problems men — and society — has is that not enough challenge is being made to toxic ideologies that lie about our societies. We must all spread the word, especially to those outside our normal 'bubble' of men's advocacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 04:20 AM
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The gender commute gap is directly relevant to the gender pay gap. Commuting is, by definition, only done to sustain employment. Only by pretending that commuting is not part of working life can it be claimed that men's hourly earnings are, on average, slightly higher than women's. If the gender commute gap is taken into account, the gender pay gap disappears.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 04:16 AM
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"patriarchy" is different than the feminist "The Patriarchy" which is what I think you mean. The Patriarchy is a conspiracy theory that all men collude to keep all women down. It's a load of crap but follow this as a belief system: Women are wonderful, strong, capable and can do everything a man can do; Women are oppressed by men and have been (usually for two thousand years, rarely for ever); Men don't ever help women, therefore it must be because of feminism that women now have more rights tha…
/r/MensRights26/07/21 04:08 AM
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As another poster said, if you cherry-pick all the good parts of being male (from today's perspective) and cherry-pick all the bad parts of being female (from today's perspective) you can justify the misandry of past males. But that's not accurate and is just another form of misandry. One example: men — and only men — were pressed into wars, some of which they had no interest in, others which were needed to protect their wives, children, and wider family and neighbours. Men — and only men — had …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 01:51 AM
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I've often felt that the claim is as valid as saying "Men will oppress women from 2000 years in the future". It's not only highly questionable but has nothing to do with how our lives are run now, or what we can change today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 01:43 AM
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I can see the angle that black fathers have it worse than white fathers. Perhaps in the USA. Maybe Russia and India, too. Not most countries. Not in any nation in Africa, for sure. Allowing that the intersectionality on skin colour (please, even in formulating a critical theory, can we get it right and not pretend that race=skin colour) also relies on national culture, is there an intersectional bypass of the mother's skin colour, do you know? Is the white father of children born to a black wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 01:31 AM
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Surely you are aware that all of us men (all 3½ billion) have our regular monthly meetings to discuss how to keep women down and suppress them, and how to promote the interests of men and only men? Haven't you been invited yet to your Patriarchy meetings? Hmm, me neither, but I'm sure men do have this conspiracy. Obviously, men aren't very good at it, or there would not be five times more male criminals in jail than there are female criminals; we would have a longer life span, not vice versa; we…
/r/MensRights25/07/21 01:21 AM
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Victims of custody bias begin to believe in the ideology that their fatherhood is inferior to motherhood. The internalizing of anti-father bias is not due to any weakness, ignorance, inferiority, psychological defect, gullibility, or other shortcomings of the father. Instead, it is how authority and harmful gender roles in all aspects of society contribute to a father's feelings of inequality. The first sentence is not a synthesis of any surrounding statements and is too easily questioned/dismis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 01:05 AM
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I think you are right. I particularly like the empathetic appeal in: No one can change a narrative on custody bias simply by offering an alternative narrative. There is insufficient empathy for fathers and children. Even if there were, empathy is not enough to change custody bias as most people are not exposed to many people whose custody is relatable to them. One of the problems with this widely-abused logic is that to deny there is a lack of empathy is to prove that there is a lack of empathy …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 12:49 AM
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Custody bias is intersectional - disproportionately impacting fathers with some traits but impacting other fathers less. The intersectionality of custody bias is not simple. It does not necessarily have a direct relation to the father in the determination of impact, or outcome from so-called Family Courts. While there may be some intersectional factors connected with the father, other factors are at least, if not more, important. These include the ideological bias of court advisers, the legislat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 12:43 AM
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i try my best to suggest egalitarianism as that fights for equality Another approach that can work is to discuss matters in relation to human rights and then ask the person "do you believe that everyone deserves human rights, or just women?" That can lead to an open discussion on beliefs, and allows for the expression of what is effectively essentialism, which few people openly say they support but many have beliefs in. Nobody who buys a lottery ticket really believes in equality.
/r/MensRights25/07/21 12:30 AM
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One of the first articles I ever wrote in the men's movement, was on this topic. It does point to needing to deal differently with those who are confused about what feminism is, and those who actively support the damage feminism does. However, I challenge your 'official' definition. I take my definition of feminism from an amalgamation of what feminist organisations say they are about. I think that's fair, since it is those organisations which actually put feminism into practice in harming our s…
/r/MensRights25/07/21 12:24 AM
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" All Men Are To Blame Because They Don't Hold Other Men Accountable " Funny, isn't it: feminists are saying that men are to blame because The Patriarchy doesn't exist!
/r/MensRights24/07/21 05:34 PM
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why is this issue not talked about more? Because not enough people are making it an issue with their politicians. People are more likely to vote based on whether their tax will go up or down a few cents, than to make it clear to candidates that their vote will go to the one who has recorded election promises to start levelling up to remove discrimination against men. Next time you talk to a politician, or anyone promoting a politician, make sure you ask them if their manifesto has anything to be…
/r/MensRights24/07/21 05:29 PM
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It is, and always has been, indefensible for the WHO to garner massive funds to stop female genital cutting, yet use large funds in a program to promote male cutting, even non-consensual cutting of minors.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 03:42 PM
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I was thinking along similar lines. It's sad that 75% of men think the BBC might, or does, reflect people like them. It makes me wonder which bits of the BBC they watch (maybe just the weather forecasts?). However, what is a 'win' is that the number of men realising that the BBC does not reflect them is growing. Every majority starts off as a minority.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 09:42 PM
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I do see where you're coming from with this, and I agree that there can be a distinction between advancing the rights of men, and anti-feminism. However, I have found it impossible to be a men's rights campaigner without fighting feminist (and I have tried) because feminists always fight against men's rights. So it is hard not to have the need to discredit feminism, since that is what is seen to be doing the most social harm, and specifically working to limit and to worsen men's rights and digni…
/r/MensRights23/07/21 08:48 PM
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They Couldn’t Celebrate International Women’s Day What law prevented that? It would be a constitutional right in the US It didn't need a law and on this one the author is perfectly correct: women could not Celebrate International Women’s Day until 1975 ... because it didn't exist until then. International Men's Day, which wasn't created until 1999, is still not a recognised international day by the United Nations. They Struggled To Get A Birth Control Pill Once again, this is a matter of technol…
/r/MensRights23/07/21 08:37 PM
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It reads like a list almost put up to mock feminism, or make it so easy to ridicule. She Couldn’t Be The CEO OF A Fortune 500 Company With all the rules, laws, and regulations surrounding women before the 1970s, it’s probably no shock that it took until the early 1970s for a woman to become the CEO of a Fortune 500 Company. 1) A woman could be the CEO of a Fortune 500 Company and the example is given of one who did it in the early 1970s. 2) The original 'Fortune 500' only included companies most…
/r/MensRights23/07/21 08:24 PM
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Now you show your real colours, deciding to no-platform me rather than answer difficult questions like "what have you ever done for men". Are you proud of holding back men's rights? Do you get congratulated by your feminist friends?
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:43 AM
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As I've just responded to another poster, that's the one that could be tricky to discover by an internet search. I've added it to my 'to do' list and will try to find it again.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:41 AM
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Oddly enough, I don't have specifics on the USA, so can't point to the actual legislation. These are some of the discriminatory legal areas in the USA: Selective Service: even if one argues that it has not/would not be used to conscript only men, not being on it limits a man's ability to get civil service jobs, and other restrictions, sometimes including the right to vote, I believe. Paternity Fraud and financial coercion: a man is not allowed to check that a child is his but can be forced to pa…
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:39 AM
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It's not an area of men's rights that I concentrate on, so I don't have a document on it, sorry. I'm sure if you look around the internet, you would be able to dig it out, given the background information I have given. The only one that might be difficult is the UN one: I'll see if I can recall/find the consultation and policy building on that.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:24 AM
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Consent is for women. Only.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 08:27 PM
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I've been saying for years that this is coming to us all. The push for men to not have legal ownership of their own sperm is quite old now. About ten years ago, there were two or three cases in England in connection with this, where wives wanted to be able to control whether a man donated sperm [a man who does so is an idiot in my mind, but that's a different matter]. About five years before that, there was a case in the USA - Iowa I think(?) - where a dying man had his sperm extracted after he …
/r/MensRights22/07/21 08:25 PM
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We should all be concerned about anyone, male or female, who is so depressed that they consider suicide. Of course, the most urgent issue is to actually STOP them from killing themselves. The next highest priority should be those who permanently injure themselves through suicide attempts. The sex, race, colour, religion, etc. doesn't really matter. They need urgent prioritisation. It just so happens that the ones who kill themselves most, and the ones who severely injure themselves most, are mal…
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:58 PM
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You are funny. Keep going, I'm sure I'm not the only one having a laugh at you.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:46 PM
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Women Couldn’t Serve On A Jury There are many gray areas throughout history, and this is one of these areas. Prior to the 1970s, females serving on a jury was rare but not impossible. A direct refutation of their assertion in the first sentence. I think you might find, depending on the jurisdiction, that men HAD to serve on a jury if selected to do so, but women did not have to. This inevitably led to juries typically being made of more men than women, often entirely male. But that's not a male …
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:41 PM
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Which country? I can't answer for all nations but can supply some information.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:36 PM
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Yes, there were many discriminatory laws in the past. On the whole they were discriminatory against men, though some discriminated against women. Nobody used to pretend - in a society without modern facilities like running water, a health service, easy contraception, refrigeration, etc. - that men and women were the same, or could do the same things. Men and women are different and were treated differently, with men having most of the constraints put upon them. Now, the laws that discriminated a…
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:34 PM
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Hmm. Somewhere there's a lack of communication, unless you are being deliberately obtuse.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:26 PM
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With Google search returning about 13,800,000 results on cultural Marxism, I'd say you aren't very well read on a subject you want to pretend (on a men's rights forum of all places!) doesn't even exist.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:24 PM
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I think a lot of ground-roots feminism is about class. There are few women who self-identify as feminist anyway but the number of them among working class diminishes to almost nothing.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:20 PM
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Ah, I see, you get yourself educated about what feminism really is, and understand the full weight of social misandry and damage to men .. or I stop 'lying'. What lie have I stated. Prove it or shut up and go get yourself knowledgeable about the enemy. Of course men are not happy with how things are. What ever have I said that you feel you need to make this comment to me, who has been fighting for men's rights for two decades, and been getting somewhere? What have you ever done for men, other th…
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:17 PM
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Please get an education before saying such silly things: you show yourself up.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:11 PM
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No, it's not about being starved for attention or being insecure (though many men fit both those, with very good reasons). The need for complimenting men is because society's main message to men is to put them down all the time, to blame them just for being male, to denigrate them. Men need compliments to combat the unhealthy state society is being driven into by the pervading misandry.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:09 PM
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We men have more testosterone in our bodies than women have... Generally, yes. However, men's testosterone levels stay relatively stable while women's testosterone levels fluctuate a lot more and at times spike well above what most men experience. and it is known that testosterone increases aggressiveness and risk taking behaviour. Yes, it is 'known' but the knowledge is wrong. There is very little research done on men and there are papers with all kinds of conclusions about what testosterone ac…
/r/MensRights22/07/21 01:45 AM
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There are so many cases where men are freed (often after many years) that I've stopped thinking of men in prison as bad people. I don't think of them as necessarily good, either, but I do give them the benefit of the doubt. So they're in prison. Are they guilty?
/r/MensRights22/07/21 01:22 AM
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People interested in looking into the different experiences of being a man and a women would do well to read Norah Vincent's book 'Self-made man'. Norah isn't transexual but with clever disguise (which she describes), managed to spend most of a year living as a man. She expected to uncover 'The Patriarchy' and enjoy all those wonderful privileges feminists have led so many women to believe in. Her findings match the OP's closely.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 01:18 AM
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If you as a woman want to compliment a man without risking the wrong signal, start of with something like "It's nice to have a friend who..", or "Like I was saying to my boyfriend the other day, I really like men that.." Men need those compliments. They just need to know where they stand, too, and since compliments are so rare, they will inevitably think well towards you, which means they will be interesting in you more.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 01:02 AM
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Those who understand what they are doing usually have no problem in thinking of themselves as Marxist. One of the insidious aspects of cultural Marxism, though, is that it has many faces and pretences. So feminism, critical race theory, euthanasia societies (including the more severe abortionists), some active anti-religious groups, and more, have most of their adherents without any idea of the underlying intent and long-term effect of the policies and actions they support. Usually, at the very …
/r/MensRights22/07/21 12:50 AM
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We can talk again once you've spent enough time getting yourself educated.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 12:39 AM
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Most women are fine with their privileges over men, see themselves as innocent bystanders of history, blame men for the world's problems and will actively oppose men's equal treatment if pushed. Most men are fine with women's privileges over men, see women as innocent bystanders of history, blame men for the world's problems and will actively oppose men's equal treatment if pushed. It's a sad world but you can't fix it unless you are able to understand what the core problem is.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 12:37 AM
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How can you call yourself an egalitarian and yet say you do not consider yourself an advocate for men's rights. An egalitarian is an advocate for everyone's rights, not just some people's. If you read the literature, you'll find that most modern MRAs are largely egalitarian.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 05:39 PM
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You confuse feminism and women, an easy mistake because of feminism's claims to support women. However, there is a good reason why the vast majority of women do not identify themselves as feminist. The influential people who kicked off what is commonly called Third-wave Feminism were men. Most of the people putting feminist policies into action in society are men. Only the intelligentsia of feminism is, these days, mostly female.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 05:36 PM
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Cultural Marxism is a method of bringing a society to accept (or even want) Marxist-style communism. It is distinct from militaristic Marxist thought, such as Russia practised for many years, which posits that the way to bring about communism is by force. Instead, cultural Marxism seeks to undermine the culture and social structure of society, gradually replacing those in power with people of a communist mindset.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 05:32 PM
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Feminism from the 1950s onwards has been taken over by cultural Marxism. Since the 1970s, it really has been little else. I met this concept myself a few years ago and researched it heavily for three years, not simply accepting commonality but looking for causality. Global feminism is very openly Marxist. I don't know why you think the MRM "keeps going nowhere". People who spread disinformation about the nature of what society - and in particular, here, men - is up against do not help. People wh…
/r/MensRights21/07/21 05:28 PM
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Feminist indoctrination takes a long time to work out of the mind, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:06 AM
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Enough with the name calling, please. That men made the rules, and made them caring for women over and above the interests of men, does not mean that women, overall, had it worse than men. As you point out, it has been men sent to kill (can you imagine the trauma of killing another human being?), and to risk their own lives in wars largely to protect women and children. When and where are you talking about when you say "men could do whatever the hell they wanted." I am unaware of a single societ…
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:04 AM
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One should never use long words when diminutive locution potentially suffices. More seriously, I agree. I've waded through the writings of Marx and the philosophers he built upon. Gawd, what round-the-houses garbage. Read the summaries instead, if you want: they are up to 90% shorter and miss out nothing.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 11:44 PM
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There already is a war. And men are losing. Ever wonder why men can't get a paternity testing of a child in most countries: he's just made to pay. Ever wonder why the male prison population is going up, even though crime is going down? Ever wonder why so few men are getting higher educations any more? Ever wonder why the care about the violence done to men (in or out of the home) gets little attention, while the lesser violence against women is a billion-dollar-a-year industry? There already is …
/r/MensRights20/07/21 11:41 PM
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I know a fair number of sons of hardcore feminists haven't lived beyond 30. How could a man keep going with an indoctrinated and active hatred of himself? If someone had the time, a survey on this would be interesting.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 11:34 PM
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Of course you don't have to hate men to support women. But if you don't hate men, it's not feminism.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 11:32 PM
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'Synthesis' in feminism comes from its Marxist philosophy (Marx borrowed the concept from Kant). It's not quite as creepy as it sounds, and has no connection to synthetic. To synthesize knowledge is to combine disparate parts of a system in order to form a more complete overview of it, the idea being that when looked at in this way, a greater (or at least, potentially different) truth can be see than could be determined from only looking at the parts. So, it could be said that in bringing togeth…
/r/MensRights20/07/21 11:30 PM
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That's what they said: they are changing them. They are working on making laws and policies even more misandric and gynocentric, excluding men from society even more and favouring women even more that the current raft of legal advantages they get.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 10:09 PM
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One of the strange things about feminism and its parent ideology, cultural Marxism, is that almost everything they plan, everything they do, is written and available. Books that fill library shelves, dissertations so numerous that no one person could ever manage to read, 'surveys' and 'reports' that boggle the mind as well as stretch a sane person's belief. (The SCUM associations are 'underground' and part of the 'dark web'. They have been partially penetrated and documented by the Men's Rights …
/r/MensRights20/07/21 10:07 PM
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I've seen something very similar circulating at the United Nations. I suspect that most countries will have their feminism-is-really-for-men organisation distributing the same kind of thing. This stuff doesn't grow on trees. People (with salaries ultimately paid for by us) at the UN work out how to oppose men having rights.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 10:00 PM
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The Justice for Men & Boys British political party has reported on this, too. Neel Kothari: Is ‘gender equality’ the new sexism?
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:54 PM
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"Some feminists seem to feel that the only way to right a previous wrong..." But what 'wrong' are you talking about. I don't know how long you've been looking into feminist lies and uncovering the truth and maybe I'm being too hard on you. But you are repeating feminist lies that don't stack up. Sure, men and women didn't used to have equality. Society was and has been for millennia split on natural sex lines (men can't birth or nurse babies - this makes a different in any natural setting). But …
/r/MensRights18/07/21 02:03 AM
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This victim isn't even a man. He's just a boy. A boy fucked over for the next 18 years, with barely a chance to be able to afford a family of his own because of the sexual abuse and rape of a woman.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:42 AM
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Yeah, those problems that women used to have in the 50's: They weren't expected to have to go out to work. They had so much time on their hands it is sometimes called the great age of volunteerism. Free adult education systems (unless their husband was very rich). Spending 75% of disposable income that their husband brought in. Well, if feminism is going to bring men those kinds of 'problems' maybe I'm on the wrong side of this!
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:40 AM
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Uncomfortable isn't it? But it's not the first. Cases in Australia, Norway, Mexico and elsewhere go back into the early 1990s. Welcome to justice, feminist-style. Yet another cause of male suicide (I do hope this kid stays alive and fights the injustice). And it still goes on; the difference now is that the media shoves the 'story' into the bin and the public rarely get to hear of it.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:34 AM
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If you are in the UK do not complain without prior legal advice. It can be illegal to have - or to have had - such images. Depending on circumstances, there can be a mandatory custodial sentence for having ever had an image of a nude person (other than a professional model) on your device regardless of how it got there.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:22 AM
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If one person says they were raped and the only evidence available is from the person they accuse, then you have the classic "he said, she said" issue. Convicting someone should not be on anything less than 'beyond all reasonable doubt'. If one person says one thing and another says differently, and that is all you have to go by then there is very reasonable doubt. On anything. The first part of most rape trials is to prove that sex happened. Well, it used to be before we had this raft of 30-yea…
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:17 AM
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Whether you campaign primarily against feminism (how? they do so little!) or for men's rights is a personal choice. I am a human rights advocate, so I concentrate on the rights that people don't have. You are welcome to fight directly against feminism and good luck to you. Are you claiming that there is a link between Amazon's Alexa and feminism?
/r/MensRights18/07/21 12:50 AM
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Misandry is an actual thing. Look around and you will spot more and more of it, every day, everywhere.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 04:17 PM
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Always remember that feminism was re-invented in the 1950s by men.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 04:15 PM
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Well, what the hell else is someone with a useless degree in Marxist indoctrination supposed to do?
/r/MensRights17/07/21 04:12 PM
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I've been a men's rights advocate and activist for many years. Twice over that time, I have deliberately made an effort to NOT be anti-feminist, committing myself to at least one year of not saying or doing anything against feminism. They were very frustrating years. I have discovered for myself that trying to publicly support men's rights, advocate for the rights or men or boys' human rights to be upheld, and to campaign on specifically male-oriented issues (such as MGM) WILL be met with femini…
/r/MensRights17/07/21 04:09 PM
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In most jurisdictions, a criminal act does not require the victim to take any action. The police and public prosecutor can act entirely on their own, even against the victim's wishes. That's the distinction of a criminal (rather than civil) law case: the criminal - in this case a rapist - has committed a crime against society and it is society's representatives that can take action. But they can't take action if nobody brings it to their attention.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 03:48 PM
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Don't be so pessimistic and say "But nothing will come out of this". Find out whereabouts she lives, contact the public prosecutor and politicians in her area, send this information and DEMAND that her victim receives justice.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 10:30 PM
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William Collins has covered UK suffrage in his brilliant book "The Empathy Gap". He also has written on the topic online and it makes for good reading. Particularly worthwhile: Universal Suffrage in the UK Oxford Talk on the History of Universal Suffrage
/r/MensRights16/07/21 10:23 PM
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"...maybe we should just pick a random woman and make her support the child." Ah, well, although most women don't know it, that's exactly where we are headed. If you read up on Marx and his pal, the Baron Engels, you will see that they devised a society where people don't bring up their own children, and everyone pays for them. We're getting close to that already, of course.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 12:23 AM
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No. Most mothers and fathers are law abiding, even under huge duress. However, many more people will kill to silence an accuser. Then the murderer mutters about hearing a rumour about .. yeah, yeah, how gullible does someone have to be to fall for that?!
/r/MensRights12/07/21 11:45 PM
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How do you define what the Pay Gap is, please? Are you aware that there are areas where women have gained equal pay but do not do equal work? I am unaware of any area where men get equal pay but do less work for it. What is so weird about the link between earnings, spending and taxation that you feel it deserves swearing about. Are you not aware that the more someone earns, the more tax they pay (generally). Are you not aware that spending more than you earn means that someone else has to pay fo…
/r/MensRights12/07/21 11:38 PM
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When you see disasters shown on your television, look to see if you can find women doing the dangerous side of helping people. Whether it is floods, people trapped underground, buildings collapsing after an earthquake: the every day heroism you see outside of Hollywood fiction is almost entirely male. You won't find much statistics about this. Nationally and internationally there are highly-funded groups (usually costing the taxpayer, which is 70% male) that concentrate only on issues where men …
/r/MensRights12/07/21 10:56 PM
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Justice for Men & Boys (and the women who love them) is the only political party in the English-speaking world specifically for the rights of males. You can read their manifesto, which will be a good guide even if you are not in the UK. The primary issues faced by men around the world are connected with life, liberty, health, and respect in all its forms. Pretty much everything you have heard about how badly women and girls have it can be either transferred instead to men or boys (because it is …
/r/MensRights12/07/21 10:47 PM
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Being inside IR35 is an issue but it still doesn't stop you drawing up accounts and presenting yourself as a self-employed worker. So, draw up a simple sheet of accounts, from the date you lost your job. Put down all business expenses, and show the income as being that for the period. If you really don't think you will be getting work for a while, you could budget for that time, too.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 10:31 PM
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I have developed 'that' to the equal amount that those who believe the 'gender pay gap' (like they know everyone's gender anyway!) is a problem. In what way can their be any misunderstanding over the facts that women spend most of the disposable income, or that women pay less income tax than men?
/r/MensRights12/07/21 10:19 PM
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Someone who murders a partner is usually accepted to be the primary domestic abuser. Well, they are when they are male, so I see no reason for double standards now. We only have the word of a murderer that she has any kind of excuse for her premeditated murder. She has silenced the one innocent person who might have revealed just what she has been doing.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 10:15 PM
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I agree. And they are. Do you believe that women should be expected to do the same work, if paid the same? Why do you believe that earning, spending, and taxation are not related? In most people's minds, and in financial calculations, the three are very closely related.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 10:11 PM
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IF But may be she was the abuser, silencing the man who could accuse her. Doesn't that seem more likely?
/r/MensRights11/07/21 10:46 PM
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The point is whether you believe what this murderer says to justify her terrible crime, or whether you take it with a pinch of sugar (sorry) and understand that she will be looking to make all kinds of excuse for her actions. Normally, a "he abused me/my children" is enough to keep a woman from any harsh sentence. That it didn't work in this case might indicate that the judge didn't believe a word of it. For all we know, her husband was about to expose HER for sexually abusing their son, causing…
/r/MensRights11/07/21 10:45 PM
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Men earn more. They earn more almost in direct relationship to the extra hours they spend commuting and the extra hours they spend at work. Women spend more. Which do women want: to be the biggest earners or the biggest spenders? I am sure many men would happily swap places with them! ​ Women have more social benefits. I don't know about Canada specifically but most western nations spend about 14% more on women than they do on men. Men pay the majority of tax. In many countries, women effectivel…
/r/MensRights11/07/21 10:13 PM
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Out of interest, when and where do you think women had less rights? Women and men have often had different rights, so there has always been room for those who believe that they should have equal rights (though when you get to the nitty-gritty, very few people really believe in equal rights - as the European Court has just shown French men). Because rights were and are different, I accept that there is always room for debate: for example, that a woman's ability to rely on a man's income is a wors…
/r/MensRights11/07/21 10:00 PM
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I think you are confusing feminism with women's rights. Only a small fraction of women self-identify as feminist; more women are anti-feminist than feminist. That's not because those women don't want human rights, it is because they know that feminism does not represent them or the type of society they want. I believe that women should have human rights (I think the vast majority of people do). So where it is appropriate, I have no problem telling people that I support women's rights and that is…
/r/MensRights11/07/21 09:53 PM
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Complain about it to authorities. Loudly and insistently. Because only when men do this can those authorities even count the times it happens to men. I know you might not think it a big enough issue to bother anyone about .. but unless we all do, we can't hope to have a balanced society.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 10:43 PM
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Literature, particularly up to the 1980s, is full of cases where men are coerced/forced into marriage. This event is rarely the central theme of a book but is a side-matter, acceptable to the contemporary reader because it was a standard expectation. In Ireland, for an example, there was (is?) a law against breach of promise to marry. Proof of the promise is required but need not be in writing. Any man getting a woman pregnant used to be (I don't know about today) automatically assumed to have m…
/r/MensRights10/07/21 10:20 PM
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Quite so, and that's my point. I think people should be more worried about a child growing up as a pedo, etc. than gay. Unsurprisingly, though, I collected down-votes on such a view. Surely even a homophobic person would rather their child be homosexual than be a rapist? The ONLY thing wrong in the OP's image is that it only concentrates on whether the child is male.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 09:58 PM
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Oddly, given the picture at the top of this post, one of the things that creeps me about women is when their head is facing one way and they do that looking-out-of-the-corner-of-their-eyes thing. I just know they aren't being straightforward and honest and it gives me the heebies.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:44 PM
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I think that women were treated like shit in some societies in the past. What is often missed is that at the time, men were being treated like just as much shit, or worse. There are some horrid moments in history. The Jewish holocaust, for example: did you know many of the people who were killed were women or children? Well, of course they were, just as many of the people who were killed were men or children. You have to watch for these word games and the selective statements. You can't disagree…
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:35 PM
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I'm probably going to make myself unpopular here.. Being gay is about a 1% chance. That probably is about the same chance as being a paedophile, rapist or generally abusive. And it is surely worse being a paedophile, rapist or generally abusive than being gay. I'm not sure fear helps but parents in should certainly try to bring up their sons so they are not a paedophile, rapist or generally abusive. As another poster here says, parents equally need to be concerned about their daughters being pae…
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:26 PM
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Try to get her to think. Largely, do this by asking questions and not arguing. The more you argue with someone, the more entrenched their opinion becomes. Ask her if she thinks that there should be equal outcomes between sexes, skin colours, ages, etc. If she says 'yes', ask her why she thinks the Olympics don't have any white runners in the 100m sprint and what she thinks should be done to arrange for equal outcomes.If she says 'no', ask her if she thinks there should be equal opportunities for…
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:16 PM
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It certainly can make a difference what jurisdiction you are in.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:51 PM
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I really fail to see what feminism is trying to further accomplish if not female supremacy. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I wouldn't say you're wrong but you're not quite there, either. Feminism is a branch of cultural Marxism. cultural Marxism is a method of bringing a society to become communist and accepting non-democratic rule by weakening it to the point where the people actually want Marxist rule. The important thing to bear in mind is that feminism is just one wing of this (and possib…
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:47 PM
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May I find the courage it takes, May I be certain of my honour, May I discover humility in myself.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:35 PM
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Like most nations, very few women in Singapore go to prison for their crimes, and when they do, they typically have a easier and shorter time in jail.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:31 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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