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I don’t. I married a guy that redpillers call a beta simp. I still like trolling them though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:09 PM
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No, because the men leaving the west to find foreign wives aren’t smart men. Smart men find women at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:31 PM
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It doesn’t bother me if women want to be submissive, but most of us don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:34 PM
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Bitter men want women to be jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:33 PM
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Do you think that as a bartender in a resort, you were dealing with a representative cross section? I don’t like bars and I don’t like vacationing at resorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:47 PM
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My experience is that men who devalue women have worse lives, because women now have the option to choose better or not at all. Spousal violence is trending down. So if you don’t value women, women will do fine without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:10 PM
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They Might Be Giants
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:40 PM
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What women? The ones you hear about on Tiktok? Has this ever happened to you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:16 PM
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A stranger asking me out for coffee without having a conversation with me would make me uncomfortable. The last time a guy hit on me in the grocery store, he was interested in the band t shirt I was wearing. He looked directly at my left hand, saw my ring, and backed off
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:46 PM
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Being hot and having fitness goals are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:28 PM
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A high quality man also values you for your human qualities and not just your looks. I am not as good looking as I was 20 years ago when I met him (and obviously he’s aged as well) but we’re still in love and enjoying each other’s company. I got a (second) degree during that time, too, and he’s proud of me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:31 PM
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I definitely agree with that, but I don’t think that’s actually possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:22 PM
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Being hot isn’t an accomplishment. It’s objectifying for someone to only have respect for what you look like and not your personality or accomplishments
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:12 PM
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Not if you find a quality man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:10 PM
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Pretty sure a person with a masters degree isn’t dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:09 PM
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Having a degree is an accomplishment. My husband respects my accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:07 PM
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It’s 40% and falling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:17 AM
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Which just means lots of people living together and having kids outside of marriage. People are going to couple up regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:17 AM
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It’s like you’re angry at the idea of women wanting their partners to have any merit at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:57 PM
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What exactly do I owe you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:36 PM
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Then find one who likes the things you like
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:27 PM
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My husband and I are nerds raising nerd kids. Recently we were away for the weekend visiting a college for my son. My husband took the kids to a record store while I was cooking dinner in the Airbnb. He came back with obscure ’90s alt country CDs. He knew the names of the artists, backup singers, and the studio musicians because he listens to my geeky ramblings about music, and he knew I would love them. That’s what I wanted in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:21 PM
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Some people might call themselves that, but those people are weird. I am more attracted to brains than looks. Call it what you want, but I have no use for unintelligent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:12 PM
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My husband is really smart
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:09 PM
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That’s not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:07 PM
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Yes. Most men are not intelligent enough for me to find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:53 PM
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Then avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:53 PM
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She sounds batshit crazy. My husband of 19 years is a total sap who cries at movies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:45 PM
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Sex is better for men AND women without condoms, which is why most monogamous couples ditch them. It’s still not worth the risk of STDs. I get that you fantasize about leaving a sex worker in a poor country with a child as punishment for being a sex worker, but I also get that you will never do this in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:24 PM
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You’re allowed to not be physically attracted to someone. The question is why you think women are obligated to be sexually available to you because you want them? Nobody rejects actually nice guys for being nice. Most guys who claim to be rejected for being nice aren’t actually nice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:06 PM
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I have broken up with guys who weren’t nice to me. Is that enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:48 AM
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Of course not. Why would you even ask this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:33 AM
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Remember the askreddit threads about people who are always single. Most of them are about people who are uncomfortable to be around. None of them are because they’re short.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:18 PM
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Cats are, too, but less needy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:12 AM
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I prefer cats to dogs, myself. I also have children. The cats are easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:04 PM
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I find that people claiming to be redpill are just whiny misogynists who often contradict each other. There’s no consistent tenet to redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:32 PM
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Pets are much less work than kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:27 PM
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Yes, but that’s not what they advocate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:57 PM
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Redpill/manosphere doesn’t actually want traditional women. They consider it beta to commit to an aging woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:26 PM
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It’s notable that men get less attractive as they age as well, but women are conditioned to accept that. And lots of redpill content creators advocate getting with teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:11 PM
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And if they have children? Who pays for childcare? And if it turns out that the family actually saves money if one spouse stays home for a few years, does that mean that spouse gets less in a divorce settlement? I assume you believe that women should have custody of their children and finance their children’s needs 100% in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:40 PM
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Apparently that means women should make men’s lives better and expect nothing in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:31 AM
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Somehow I doubt that. He actually enjoys when his partner has a good time in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:27 PM
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I’m sure he displays his misogyny in multiple ways
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:12 PM
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I’m saying this guy clearly hates women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:25 PM
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This might be why women reject you, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:06 PM
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Just say you think women don’t deserve to have orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:40 PM
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You think all women are just interested in men’s money? Maybe you’re a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:45 PM
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And I’m saying that women don’t want guys who are not interested in emotional connection, especially when these same guys are quick to point out that women’s value diminishes when they sleep with men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:49 PM
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Nope. If you think dick size is what makes a woman orgasm, then your foreplay game is weak. People complain that guys don’t want to do the things that will make women orgasm, and guys complain that they should have to care about women’s orgasms at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:27 PM
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Then you’re probably not a nice person
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:23 PM
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I think women should reject situationships if they find them unfulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:56 PM
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When you say things like this, it just reinforces to me that you spend a lot of time consuming toxic online content and not enough time interacting with real humans
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:25 PM
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You should leave your house and touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:18 AM
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It’s a bad faith argument from men who want to use women’s bodies for sex and not give them anything emotional. The assumption is that men want sex and women want relationships, and men and women will never want the same thing. I have also never seen women act entitled to relationships, but I have seen alpha males argue that the government should give them a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:17 AM
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Men were cheating on their wives with prostitutes or unmarried women who were considered unmarriageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:18 AM
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Dating coaching is a scam. People should go to real therapists. Redpill coaches don’t even want you to succeed. They tell you what you want to hear so you keep buying content.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:17 AM
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Got it. Well, obviously you win, and you can be happy about that. You certainly don’t need to take advice from anyone because you’ve got it all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:13 AM
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If you think that all women are unintelligent, you might be a misogynist. I don’t know what bloopers means in incel speak
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:07 AM
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Obviously if you don’t have a relationship in high school you can’t have one later?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:06 AM
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I mean, just interact with people. My husband is a nerdy guy. I’m a nerdy girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:42 AM
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I think your grasp of history is lacking. Marital fidelity was the professed ideal, but few actually practiced it, especially men. People are more faithful and honest now precisely because they don’t demand lifelong monogamy with the first person you sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:15 AM
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My husband was photographing buses on the day he got on the city bus I was riding. Having hobbies works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:02 AM
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Sounds rough for you. Meanwhile, my husband is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:28 PM
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But that’s not what you said. There’s a huge difference between using someone for purely utilitarian purposes vs. saying that you don’t want to be with a person who doesn’t make your life better. Even good companionship is better than being alone. So is good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:40 PM
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Or maybe women are right to reject the men they reject
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:35 PM
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And that’s trending in what direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:55 PM
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You’re not a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:54 PM
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Because their standards start with looks and they want to portray themselves as innocent victims
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:54 PM
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And yet now that women are moving away from these guys, they’re portrayed as innocent victims of women’s superficial rejection. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/explaining-decline-intimate-partner-homicide-effects-changing#:~:text=This%20article%20explains%20the%20two,of%20women%3B%20and%20increases%20in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:49 PM
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You suggested that women are wrong for wanting to be with a partner who improves their lives in some way. I assume you also blame women who are with bad men for not choosing better?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:29 PM
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No it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:19 PM
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I married an introverted short guy. Alpha males online tell me he’s a beta simp because he does the laundry
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:19 PM
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I’m Jewish. Stop pretending you’re a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:16 PM
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Do you think the proper role of a partner is to provide no benefit? It’s not objectifying to say that the bare minimum to having a partner should be that in general, that person should make your life better than it is when you don’t have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:57 PM
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But suddenly when women choose to reject being with substandard men, which drives domestic violence rates down, men cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:49 PM
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That’s interesting. I love my husband, and he’s short. Somehow I don’t think that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:48 PM
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I don’t usually fear roving gangs, but when I do, they’re gangs of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:47 PM
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Women also pay taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:36 PM
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Why would women want someone who doesn’t benefit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:35 PM
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Incels kill women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:34 PM
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Have you ever described a woman as a landwhale or a ham beast? Or referred to a woman widely regarded for her beauty as “mid?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:34 PM
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Or because you don’t try. If you never socialize, you will never meet anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:32 PM
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It’s notable that in the early ‘90s, all of these gloom and doom articles came out about how women were going to die alone if they got careers and didn’t get married before they turned 30. Exactly zero of these articles blamed men for not stepping in and sweeping these career gals off their feet. Women’s loneliness was their own responsibility. Much the same way that women are taught to suck it up or change themselves if men don’t like them. Now that it’s men, so addicted to porn and video games…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:31 PM
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No. I don’t recommend marrying your first anything, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:15 PM
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I didn’t meet my husband until I was 28 and he was 25. We’ve been together for 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:29 AM
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Because you have had enough time to get to know yourself and understand why your early relationships failed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:54 PM
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It wouldn’t bother me at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:55 PM
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She sounds like a dipshit, but I don’t think you can hold all women responsible or assume all people think women are entitled to your attention just because she does
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:57 PM
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I think a lot of this has to do with homophobia, toxic masculinity, and patriarchy. Men are afraid of seeming to be too close and too supportive to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:35 PM
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My experience is that women can be very accepting. However, a woman is not obligated to like a man just because he thinks she should
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:09 PM
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Why would you assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:52 PM
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Because wanting to use someone’s body with no emotional intimacy is weird. I don’t think women are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:22 PM
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But birdwatching is such a social hobby. I have met so many people through it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:35 AM
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Part of personality is what people do for fun
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:31 AM
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Your belief that birdwatchers just sit on their porches is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:31 AM
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You think that people being interested in doing things is inherently materialistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:08 AM
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I usually go hiking to watch birds. Sometimes I do it while kayaking. I have met lots of people while hiking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:05 AM
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They’re among the most common hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:38 AM
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To be fair, the guys who say this aren’t normal. They’re redpill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:54 AM
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I have been told often that women have no hobbies. When I list my hobbies (crafting, birdwatching, singing), the men on this sub tell me they’re boring. My husband doesn’t find them boring, but he’s a beta simp, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:47 AM
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I hear men whining on this board
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:27 PM
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You hear them where? In your tiktok algorithm that’s full of people giving you content you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:01 PM
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What are the negative consequences of refusing to accede to the attention demands of strangers? Doesn’t it lower a woman’s sexual market value to give attention to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:35 PM
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There are no negative consequences to refusing to acknowledge strangers who demand your time. It’s a false argument to equate this with misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:05 PM
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I’m not projecting anything. It’s been a convention of polite society that women were never obligated to answer men who addressed them in public. Why do you want to break from tradition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:40 PM
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So women having autonomy over their own bodies is oppressing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:33 PM
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It’s not misandry to refuse to give attention to strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:41 AM
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The difference is that for some individual women, maintaining that BMI is extremely difficult without engaging in unhealthy behaviors. And I hear lots of men whining about women excluding men for their height, but I don’t actually see it in real life. My husband is short, and I dated guys who were taller whom I wasn’t interested in staying with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:52 AM
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So…this is why you think women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, inherit, or attend university?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:47 AM
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So you feel victimized because women have agency to reject the attention of strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:43 PM
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I think you don’t understand what the word projection means
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:25 PM
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I would have been okay with them talking to me, too. They were definitely not Chads, either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:16 PM
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All women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:04 PM
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I literally just struck up a conversation with two men at the next table in the cafe where I was having breakfast. They were in town for a convention for tabletop gaming for a particular war game. They were going to be gaming together and touring military sites in the area. We talked about our hobbies. I mentioned my husband. The younger f the two talked about his wife and daughter. It was very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:03 PM
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If you refer to a woman as a swamp beast when she weighs 146 pounds at 5’4”, this might be why you have trouble dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:09 PM
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19-21? The bar for overweight is 25. Why do you want women who are just barely not starving? Also, life expectancies of people who have a bmi slightly over 25 are longer. So what do you mean by healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:04 PM
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Then what does it mean? Use your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:38 PM
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Submissive means she goes along with what someone else wants and doesn’t get to have agency in her own life. Who would want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:00 PM
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If you think most women watch 90 day fiancé, then I question the quality of women you associate with. I don’t watch that show, and I don’t think anyone I know does either. I recently hung out with a friend from high school who was passing through my area on vacation. We started talking about tv we like, and we were both really into severance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:56 PM
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Who’s “they?”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:41 AM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:48 PM
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You find a way to make yourself a victim somehow don’t you. My son is short. Women still like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:34 PM
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Going on a date with someone isn’t committment. Talking to someone isn’t commitment. There’s nothing wrong with not putting your eggs in one basket before you even meet the person face to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:20 PM
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You compared women to rattlesnakes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:17 PM
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Or maybe we’re just emotionally mature enough to realize that a guy doesn’t owe us anything after one date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:36 PM
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I would assume he was talking to a few women and decided to become exclusive with one who wasn’t me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:29 PM
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I suppose being a married person with a husband I love, a career I love, a couple of awesome teenagers, and a nice house is being a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:16 PM
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Oh, that’s nice. But women are obviously the problem and you’re not a misogynist at all. I call my husband beta because I don’t believe beta exists, but when guys in the manosphere cult describe a guy as beta, they make him sound like a catch. Betas are nice guys with good personalities and good jobs. They’re generous and helpful. They take on adult responsibilities like housework and kids. And they will make you cum like it’s their goddamn religion. I mean, sign me up. (And yes, these are all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:09 PM
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So men want to cheat more but women get more invitations, so this makes women bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:02 PM
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Vegan chocolates exist. If you’re constantly using dangerous, deadly, and negative comparators in your metaphors about women (except when you’re using immature, stupid, or inanimate/utilitarian comparators) then people might think you hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:01 PM
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I know, alpha males hate when women love men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:11 PM
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I’m saying if you are suggesting that all women are horrible and literally comparing them to rattlesnakes, maybe it’s you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:10 PM
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If you assume women are all reductive, all venal, and all incapable of love, this is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:49 PM
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I’m doing fine. I married a beta simp. I know he’s a beta simp because he makes money, helps with housework, and makes me cum
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:14 PM
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I have been told that women demanding orgasms is unfeminine
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:07 PM
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I did say most, not all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:29 PM
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The first scenario resembles my life before I met my husband. I had a few relationships that lasted more than a year each, plus several shorter relationships. I was 28 when I met him and we have been together for 20 years. We’re monogamous and faithful. The second scenario represents a person experimenting with a lifestyle and deciding it’s not for them. I don’t think that a long-past party phase is going to come back. On the contrary, I think that it no longer holds any mystery and therefore is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:13 PM
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Define HOE phase. Are you talking a girl who had 10 partners over 10 years? Are you talking about a woman who tried sleeping around for a couple of years just to see what it was like and gave it up several years ago? Or are you talking about a woman who has had a sustained reputation for years as a party girl who jumps from guy to guy? Because I have heard of all of these described as run through, used up, unable to pair bond, etc., and I see them as very different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:15 PM
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I know one person whom I think has the same level of curiosity as a college-educated person. He had some community college but dropped out due to addiction issues. I love him like a brother, but if I were single, I still wouldn’t date him for the reason that he’s pretty messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:44 AM
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As an educated woman, I find that most men who are not educated are generally less interesting to be around. They don’t learn things for fun and they don’t read books. I don’t want to hang out with people whose ideas of hobbies are playing video games and smoking weed. It’s not a security thing. We just have nothing to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:25 AM
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I mean, I’m married to a guy I love. What do you mean by traditional values?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:52 PM
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What do you find more traditional about Asian and Latina women in foreign countries as compared to the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:41 PM
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You think getting out of a bad marriage is easy with no support system? If he controls all the money? Also, the mediocre American guy probably has a higher standard of living than the comparable Filipino guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:57 PM
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A lot of people want to be passport bros because they want women to be angry about it. Most of them never pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:48 PM
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Also, a lot of them come from cultures where divorce is stigmatized, so they assume that they must be bad people if they can’t make it work. Also, their parents are going to be really unhappy if they screw it up with the rich foreign guy, because what else are they going to brag to their neighbors about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:47 PM
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If you rule out all the women in a country of over 300 million people, maybe it’s not everyone else who’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:44 PM
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Women also mountain bike
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:29 PM
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I posted a long list of activities that men can engage in that will help them meet people. If you blame women for all your problems, it’s unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:49 PM
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You have all evening. Why not go out with coworkers? Why not join a discord server and play D&D? Why not find a hobby that attracts locals? When I met my husband, he was 25 and hanging out with guys who restored old trolley cars at a museum. I am active in the local birdwatching community. We have a pinball museum in town that is always looking for people to help fix machines. You could join a softball league or a bowling league. There are soccer clubs for adults that play weekend games. There a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:44 PM
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It’s not inaccurate unless you have your head in the sand. Women’s idea of revenge fantasy is cats and wine. Pretty tame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:40 PM
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Recognizing that a lot of manosphere content is revenge fantasy is not misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:33 PM
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Oh, I’m not misandrist. My husband is my favorite person. I just think that game theory for relationships is stupid, and redpill is a morass of misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:20 PM
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I have seen some people do it in good faith. But they weren’t looking for submissive tradwives, either. A childhood friend of my husband’s met a woman from the Philippines online. She may or may not have misrepresented her location in order to meet American guys, but she was the whole package. She had a degree and a good job, she was Catholic (so was he), and she was smart, funny, and pretty. She really tried to make it work. They were married for like 10 years when she divorced him, but he’s an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:14 PM
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Because women are taught to have social skills that men dismiss as homo and beta. Not women’s fault that you guys can’t build social networks like men used to. Think I’m wrong? Go into any Dunkin or McDonald’s on a weekday morning and observe the group of old guys drinking coffee and socializing together. Go to any large urban park on a weekday morning and watch the old guys playing chess and bocce or doing tai chi together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:08 PM
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Blue pill just means not being in the weird redpill cult. At least 99% of people have never heard of redpill and/or laugh at it because it’s stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:05 PM
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It’s a foundational redpill tenet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:04 PM
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All women are the same, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:59 PM
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AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:58 PM
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Not all men. Redpill guys aren’t representative of normal men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:56 PM
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Rectally-sourced statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:54 PM
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I moved to a whole different city after I graduated and managed to build a social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:59 PM
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My husband is a non-neurotypical introvert, and he had a social circle when I met him
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:52 PM
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I’ve been married for 19 years. Have you got your tradwife yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:51 PM
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Many men think women are just satellites orbiting themselves as main character
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:50 PM
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It’s not but don’t say I didn’t warn you. Most people who threaten passport bro-ing are just trying to scare women, because they can’t afford to be one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:42 PM
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People who see women as human are better at accepting rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:22 PM
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It’s not the solution you think it is. You’re not going to go abroad and find a woman who has no interests other than serving you, is going to be a virgin, is going to be willing to work to contribute to the family’s support, and is going to stay with you after she gets her green card. There’s nothing in that for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:18 PM
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Men think that they can approach women and that women will just fall in line
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:04 PM
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A lot of them cry on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:03 PM
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I’m saying if women are saying that men are not making their lives better, then men should listen. I have a husband, and we work to make each other’s lives better. A lot of women say that men aren’t doing their part. They want women who will cook and clean AND pay half the bills and not treat them well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:26 PM
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If you realized that women are just as fully actualized humans, and they aren’t bad people if you approach them and they aren’t interested
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:24 PM
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I mean, from what I hear, most passport bros don’t end up with what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:18 PM
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That’s not exactly what objectification means. Objectification is not seeing the other person as fully human. You are the subject who does things. They are the object that has things done to them. I also seriously wonder if you have ever liked just keeping company with another person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:17 PM
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There are certain guys who are actually cruel and sadistic and try to “deflower” a woman because they get a kick out of the idea of (in their minds) ruining her and discarding her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:56 PM
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So you think that wanting to get with a guy with the ambition of building a life and family together is objectifying? How? Most women don’t assume that the guy they get with is going to provide all the financial support, so I’m not going to pretend that this is what OP wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:54 PM
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Manosphere meme depicting female sexual satisfaction <image> as ugly and unfeminine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:14 PM
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If women tell you their lives are peaceful, why do you disbelieve them? Has your tactic of insulting women until they date you worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:16 PM
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My husband is never unhelpful. I’m just going by the criteria of alpha males online. You are stuck with an aging post-waller
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:49 PM
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Ah, so you’re a beta simp
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:44 PM
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I’ve been happily married for 19 years. Redpill men call him a beta cuck simp because he does housework and makes sure I have orgasms. Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:34 PM
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I think women being happy single comes from the fact that they no longer need men, and men are unkind and unhelpful enough to keep them from wanting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:42 PM
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The idea that women don’t form strong friendships. You don’t see it in television, because female characters written by men are not well developed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:55 PM
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Not redpilled men. They say it’s beta simping to make women cum and women demanding orgasms is unfeminine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:08 PM
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It’s what she said. It might not have been what she meant, but her lack of communication skills are not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:00 PM
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Straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:59 AM
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This logic, that mothers deserve no credit and have no right to say their work is hard, somehow doesn’t apply to any other pursuit. People who go to university or to work are allowed to say it’s difficult and be proud of their accomplishments, but mothers are not. Fathers are lauded, of course, even though they usually do less. I have kids, and I have a career. My career involved passing classes in quantum physics. My work is easier than parenting is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:58 AM
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Nothing unless you think you are entitled to an individual’s attention just because you desire them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:09 AM
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I just don’t think that a person who actually studied a difficult course of study would think doctors and lawyers are just coasting, but I guess misogyny is a hell of a drug
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:11 AM
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I mean, men could get relationships if they treated women like humans
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:54 PM
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I mean, it doesn’t really affect me. Why do you think the opinion of an unwillingly single man about a married woman’s virtue should matter? What do you think would have been better for me if I had been more the type of woman you prefer? I love the life I have lived. I got to see some of the world’s greatest museums in Europe. And I didn’t have to do it on anyone else’s schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:38 PM
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Have you gone to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:16 PM
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Are you, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:15 PM
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But it was. You wanted me to know I was ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:14 PM
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Well, you seem like you really want me to know that I missed my chances with you. Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:13 PM
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Yeah, we really liked each other, but we agreed that we were not going to totally change the trajectory of our lives for each other
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:12 PM
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Have you traveled to Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:11 PM
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Because I wanted to go to Europe, and I wanted to set my own agenda. I don’t drink and I don’t like beaches that much, so I was planning on going to a lot of museums and seeing a lot of architecture
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:11 PM
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So you think that women are simultaneously not doing enough because they aren’t making equal numbers with men, but also only making equal numbers with men because of DEI quotas. Basically, you hate women no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:00 PM
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Most hostels don’t even allow men and women to be in the same room
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:55 PM
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I did hook up with one guy while I was traveling. We spent like 5 days together in Italy and 6 days together in France. We would have probably been in a real relationship, but he was working at a hostel in Scotland and I was teaching English in Shanghai at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:54 PM
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I’ve been with my husband for 20 years, married for 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:52 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:51 PM
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Don’t worry, I’ve been married for 19 years, so I have suffered exactly zero consequences for my wanton ways. I did hook up with a nice Canadian boy in Florence. He followed me to Paris and then drunk dialed me in the middle of the night a few months later and begged me to move in with him in Edinburgh. I was living in China at the time, and I declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:50 PM
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Doctors and lawyers are cushy jobs,
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:46 PM
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Do you think we keep all our old voicemails or something? Do you assume we’re still in touch with all our exes?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:17 PM
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How would you find that out? Do you typically learn that stuff about people?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:15 PM
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This is a particularly weird thing about redpill: it assumes we all grow up in small towns and know everyone’s business. You have the choice of marrying your first boyfriend or being the town mattress. I have lived in 4 states and a foreign country as an adult, not to mention backpacking in Europe by myself. Good luck in figuring out everything I did. Hope you can afford a good team of detectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:14 PM
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How would you even find out? Or do you just assume all women are lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:11 PM
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How would you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:10 PM
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Again, you’re talking about no children being born
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:57 PM
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Things are definitely better now, but early industrialization was bad for women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:51 PM
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The USA hasn’t had any soldiers drafted in 50 years. Get some real problems. Women are making up a greater percentage of STEM fields, too. In 1980, women got about 1/3 of STEM degrees. Now it’s 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:50 PM
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You said “As a woman, I don’t particularly appreciate motherhood since it’s unnecessary to create lives that need to be cared for. “
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:44 PM
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I don’t think we should go back to it, but I do think that men and women were in some ways more equal pre-1800 than post-1800.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:35 PM
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You’re optimistic and have a colorful imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:34 PM
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Until industrialization, men did manual labor outside the home and women did manual labor inside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:31 PM
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You said absolutely nobody should have children
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:30 PM
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You said literally nobody should have children
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:20 PM
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The work that parents do is hard, especially if done well. They deserve respect for rearing functioning human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:20 PM
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If nobody had any kids, the entire world would be plunged into chaos in 40 years. Imagine nobody under age 40 to do hard work. I agree with you. Slowly declining birth rates are our only hope to save the planet. But that doesn’t mean zero and it doesn’t mean parents don’t deserve respect
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:18 PM
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You would need someone to manage the robots. She was describing a scenario where nobody should have children
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:15 PM
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I didn’t say that having fewer children over time wasn’t a good thing. Shrinking birth cohorts are good for the environment and good for the economy as automation increases. What you said was that no babies should be born and that parents deserve no respect for having children. Fewer babies are a good thing. Zero babies would be a disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:14 PM
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Self sufficient how? If there isn’t anyone to farm your food or make your medicine when you’re 80, you’re going to do it yourself? Humans are social and have always relied on each other. Older people rely on younger people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:10 PM
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Women have made a lot of advances in the past century. More than half of new lawyers are women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:09 PM
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Especially when you have a baby and a toddler at the same time. Baby wants nursing, dark room, quiet, and toddler wants to run around and yell. Before cars, you could just let your toddler out the front door to run around with the village children, and there was a shared responsibility that older kids would look after younger kids to make sure nothing too crazy happened. Now you have to go with them to the playground, and people act like you’re neglectful if you don’t hold them on your lap going…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:03 PM
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On a macro scale, someone needs to be having kids, or there will be nobody to grow food for you or staff stores where you shop, or create or ship the things you need to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:52 PM
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Totally. It used to be that when you had a baby, your youngest aunt or oldest unmarried sister would come live with you until you recovered
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:50 PM
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I was told by left wingers that I wasn’t contributing to society. I was told by right wingers that motherhood and housework was easy and I was freeloading
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:48 PM
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Motherhood is simultaneously the pinnacle of women’s existence and also men created civilization while women sat around doing nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:45 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t want to have sex for money, and I wouldn’t want my husband to have sex for money, but I don’t think people who do it are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:26 PM
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Disagree. Men consume porn and blame women for being in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:24 PM
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Sex work isn’t a good thing IMO, but I don’t blame people for exploiting a market that exists. My issue is that men want to consume porn and go to strip clubs and subscribe to only fans and pay sex workers, and condemn the women who provide a service that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:20 PM
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It sounds like you’re getting your impressions of women from fictional works written by men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:35 PM
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I did. If you hate women, women won’t want to be around you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:15 PM
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I have been married for 19 years. My husband is not Chad. Most of the guys I dated before him weren’t Chad either. We’re really happy together. Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:15 PM
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It’s not an insult. You’re not succeeding because you have adopted a hateful worldview. Women are autonomous human beings, and they have sex because they enjoy it. Relationships among normal people are not transactional. They are just people who like each other spending time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:14 PM
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This attitude is clearly paying dividends for you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:34 PM
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Misogyny is your issue to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:33 PM
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How has this attitude, where you see sex as something that women grant to men, worked out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:16 PM
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If you come on here spewing vitriol about 80/20 and hypergamy, then yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:50 PM
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She was probably suppressing a lot of resentment about something for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:11 PM
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We’ve been married 20 years and have two teenage kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:03 AM
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I don’t think that porn addicts rely on porn as a substitute for sex. A lot of them have a compulsion to view porn to the point where regular sex (even sex with multiple positions and/or oral sex) doesn’t get them off anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:47 PM
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Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:43 PM
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Is it your experience? Because from talking to other women, I think it’s a mainstream sex practice for women under age 50 or so. Earlier generations might be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:40 PM
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Have you tried to talk to women about this, or are you making assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:37 PM
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Is this your experience or something an influencer told you online?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:35 PM
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It’s not typical for a person looking for low-effort sex to put in a lot of effort for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:06 PM
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The idea of the woman who uses men for expensive meals all the time is manosphere propaganda and is rare. Fuckbois are really common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:45 PM
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Because it’s a cult full of grifters
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:36 PM
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Maybe you need to realize that some women find brains appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:25 PM
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Lucky me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:24 PM
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Gun to my head, I choose Glenn. The guy I really want is a blindingly brilliant math geek who makes fandom jokes. Why is he never an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:17 PM
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Exactly. I also debate antivaxers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:07 PM
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Because I am fascinated by people who have embraced a philosophy that obviously doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:06 PM
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These men, and the women who date them, don’t represent society at large. Also, doing research into Grimes, she strikes me as a pretty odd person
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:05 PM
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It is much easier to rule someone out than to rule someone in. If a person says or does something on a first date that really turns you off, you will know enough about them to know that you don’t want to see them again. But if the person seems nice, you will get that from the first date, and then you will have a second date where you talk about more serious stuff, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:00 PM
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They sleep with those men before they know if it’s going to be a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:56 AM
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Nope, he wasn’t particularly confident either. He’s a pretty quiet guy in general, but we just really vibed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:54 AM
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I was quoting the person I was responding to. I think a lot of guys think they’re better looking than they are. This isn’t a gender-specific delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:27 AM
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Creating an elaborate game theory to unlock the secrets and optimize your potential, especially when it has insider lingo that doesn’t make sense to anyone outside the in group is totally not cult behavior, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:25 AM
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I hope so. Also, I need to reiterate that I love him because I like him. He’s my favorite person to hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:24 AM
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I also disagree with OP. We live in an era where hypergamy is obsolete and women can choose who to marry
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:05 AM
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Speak for yourself. I love my husband
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:35 AM
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Just going off my experience. Remember, blue pill isn’t really a thing. It’s just people not in a cult
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:33 AM
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Okay good luck. See where it gets you. I don’t think you’re a victim, though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:31 AM
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Most of the men we know who are unwillingly single have something wrong with them that they could fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:13 PM
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So you think women should lower their smv because you won’t have a relationship with a woman who makes you wait for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:27 PM
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If I were Sarah, I would stop having sex with guys on the first date unless I am looking for a hookup. They are obviously going to lie about their feelings. Also, I think this scenario is unrealistic. Unless they were having a love at first sight vibe, there’s no way to know if you want a serious relationship with a guy you went on one date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:26 PM
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There’s a redpilled dating coach who tells you he has slept with 200 attractive women. You assume he is telling the truth because you th he’s attractive and you want to be like him. You want to believe that you can also be that guy who sleeps with hundreds of women. And you pay for premium content to hear what you want to hear. The most toxic part of this is that you believe that the women that he has slept with are lower in value because of having slept with him. It’s toxic, and it’s misogynist…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:14 PM
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Because men don’t want to hear from women because we won’t blow smoke up their asses. We tell them what actually works, which they don’t want to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:40 PM
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That’s absurd. I had a traumatic childhood and am estranged from my parents. I met my husband who was 0 for 3 on 6/6/6 stats and we’ve been together for 20 years
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:37 PM
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My opinion is shaped by success vs. failure. Bluepill leads to a normal, successful life. Redpill leads to bitter, single guys in an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:23 PM
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So the thing is that redpill is a bunch of bitter single guys telling each other that you can use women and be emotionally distant and still get laid. Bluepill is the normal people trying to tell you what gave them a good life so you can do what they did. It’s your choice who to listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:40 PM
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They have since changed their position. It is notable that multiple of the world’s major religions require circumcision. Also, that the arguments that circumcision is acutely harmful are generally rooted in pseudoscience. https://publications.aap.org/pediatricsinreview/article-abstract/43/12/728/189948/Circumcision?redirectedFrom=fulltext#
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:14 PM
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Yes, I think that OP vilifies women for not being interested
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:11 PM
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The American Academy of Pediatrics says that routine circumcision is marginally safer statistically than not, but people should make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:56 PM
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Okay, suit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:58 PM
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But I’m saying that the solution to this problem isn’t to whine about women being guarded. It’s to meet women on their own terms where they feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:57 PM
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I agree. They encourage people to judge each other superficially
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:55 PM
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I’m not. I’ve been married for 19 years to a guy who never strung me along. I’m telling young women not to put up with emotional manipulation. It sounds like you get a thrill out of stories where men mistreat women. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:55 PM
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Oh, he also tells me that I’m not married. Meanwhile, he claims to have a fiancée and a polyamorous girlfriend, so I think it’s projection
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:53 PM
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Okay, but women don’t owe men anything. Those men need to find ways to meet women that women don’t find threatening, like through friendships with people who might know women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:52 PM
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So if men have the intent to use women for sex and discard them, why would women like that? Doesn’t it lower their smv to say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:49 PM
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Many do. Men complain that there are few women on the apps compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:48 PM
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If you’re with a guy who wants lots of emotional support but won’t commit, just break up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:22 PM
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Just curious, if a fat 5/10 approached you, would you be receptive? If not, why should a woman who isn’t interested in you be receptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:07 PM
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You don’t get to tell women that they should want you. They get to make that decision, whether it’s rational or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:06 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:05 PM
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It’s an autonomous action. They do it without your approval
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:54 PM
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From what I hear from women, they get a lot of uncomfortable, too-forward, too immediately sexual attention from men who want to treat them as free sex workers. It’s not the kind of attention they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:53 PM
-17

You seem angry that women get to choose who they are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:51 PM
7

Note that the blue pill people on this sub are married or in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:50 PM
1

What do you mean by respect and putting in efforts? Give me specific examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:31 PM
6

This is why we tell you to make friends who have other friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:15 PM
1

I mean, I married one. What do men want? Tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:53 PM
1

That’s on you. I still know young women. I assure you that they exist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:33 AM
-1

It depends how you approach. You need to learn how to read people and know whether someone is interested or just being polite
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:44 PM
8

There are very non-superficial ways to have standards. Compatibility, for instance. Not wasting time with someone who doesn’t have the total package. That’s what dates or early first meetings are good for. If you’re a college student, this might be just sitting around the floor lounge or eating together at the dining hall. It doesn’t have to involve money at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:48 PM
4

Disagree. Being less desperate and not hitting on every woman who is polite to you makes you more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:45 PM
-2

If you feel like most women are liars, you are a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:56 PM
-3

RP has nothing to do with tradition because traditional men would be considered scoundrels if they kept dumping their women for younger and younger models, and that’s the RP goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:54 PM
-4

Nope. Most men are RP’ed because they throw tantrums when they figure out that women are human beings who have the capability to act autonomously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:52 PM
1

Exactly. Never pick on someone for being cheated on specifically, but always pick on someone for being redpill because it’s dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:51 PM
0

Making fun of redpill for being stupid is totally okay. Turning relationships into game theory is just going to lead to failure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:50 PM
1

Being the kind of guy who sleeps with the same woman multiple times over an extended period of time makes you better at making her cum. Bonus, you don’t have to “pull” if she’s already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:47 PM
3

I think this will greatly help with housing shortages, too, because people will not be expected to live in the city where their office is headquartered
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:18 PM
3

My life is great. Maybe take advice and stop giving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:04 PM
15

Men are getting more 50/50 custody. Women are making up more of the workforce
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:45 PM
2

And how has this worked for you? Because from where I am sitting, it sounds like you’re trying to sell a losing strategy to a successful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:37 PM
3

No, not really. I haven’t seen a post from a woman complaining about age gap relationships recently. Maybe when Leonardo DiCaprio, almost 50 and aging badly, gets another barely legal girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:21 PM
-1

Um what? Again, I’m married. I have one of those guys you call a beta cuck simp white knight because he loves me and stays married to me even though I was 28 and not a virgin when I met him 20 years ago. He never had to lie to me because I wanted to be with him and he wanted to be with me. So what about you? Is your strategy paying off?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:20 PM
3

You need therapy, not game theory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:18 PM
-1

I don’t think you’re wrong to want what you want, but I’m suspicious of a church guy who can’t get a date, since religious groups are usually more women than men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:17 PM
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I’m saying you don’t have sex. Most guys on this sub don’t. It certainly doesn’t hurt me. I’m married, and I do have sex. Maybe if you hated women less, you might have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:04 PM
2

Oh, so you slept with women but were unkind to them? How has this strategy paid off for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:03 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t condemn women who are honest like that. The problem with guys in the redpill mindset is that they want women to be casual and also virginal. Immediately sexually available to them, but only to them. They see themselves as main characters, other men as secondary characters, and women as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:02 PM
2

Maybe join a church? Move to a bigger town? Look on Christian dating sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:52 PM
-2

Really? What about the women you describe as landwhales?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:50 PM
12

I mean, all love is somewhat conditional. If my husband became an addict and started draining our life savings and becoming violent, there’s a limit to how much I would tolerate it before I left. However, I disagree that love is transactional. Most of being in a relationship is hanging out with an awesome friend that you can also have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:50 PM
2

Well, does it or doesn’t it? You’re the alpha male, right? You’re the one who makes the rules. I mean, certainly I don’t, as a married woman in a happy relationship with a guy who didn’t care that I had had sex before I met him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:16 PM
3

So you’re saying you have been unsuccessful in hating women until they fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:01 PM
2

Exactly. I went on a date with a guy once who should have been perfect for me. Cute, Jewish and becoming more observant (same with me at the time), spoke multiple foreign languages and had taught abroad (me too), etc. Also, just the sweetest guy. There is literally nothing I could say negative about him. And I tried, but there was no chemistry. Zero. We’re both happily married to other people and still friends 20 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:49 PM
0

Nope. Just calling it out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:45 PM
2

Or he just did a friend a favor. Or maybe she was really qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:41 PM
2

Has this attitude paid off for you? Do you have lots of women falling all over themselves to get to you? Or are you just looking for an excuse for your bitterness?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:41 PM
3

See, whereas I would love talking politics with Brad, since I think that everything is political. Oh, and I married a guy with a high tenor/falsetto range. We joke that he had to marry me because I’m the only woman who can sing higher than he can. So obviously you and I are/were looking for a different kind of guy. And neither of us is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:40 PM
0

“Neener neener men don’t want to marry you” is a common incel retort because they’re angry at women who sleep with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:35 PM
1

This is not a particularly effective strategy of diffusing your loss in an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:33 PM
2

You seem to care a lot about her knowing that you don’t want her. I’m just matching your energy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:23 PM
2

She got a public service position while dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:20 PM
-1

It’s relevant because you seem to want women to be alone and crying on their cats instead of being used by men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:19 PM
6

Hence why 1 in 6 women are voluntarily celibate. Men who don’t care about women’s orgasms and are looking to deceive women in order to have sex are worse than nothing. How is this strategy working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:17 PM
3

You want casual non-commitment with a virgin? If you’re looking for casual relationships, you’re going to get with women who have had multiple casual relationships. If you want a woman who is circumspect about sex, she’s going to want commitment. Pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:16 PM
2

She doesn’t want to date you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:13 PM
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She’s just not that into you, buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:12 PM
-3

You seem quite gleeful at the idea of a man misleading a woman about being interested in marriage. Couldn’t be me. My husband and I were full steam ahead when we met, and we got engaged really quickly. When he proposed, I said yes right away. I had dated other guys that I thought I would marry, but if any of them had proposed, I would have said I wasn’t ready yet. Then we ended up breaking up instead
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:10 PM
0

So you think it’s great for guys to lie to women and diminish their smv by raising their n count? Has this strategy worked for you? Do you have lots of women begging for your attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:58 PM
0

My husband grew up next door to a guy who never wanted to get married. He made good money and lived in an apartment owned by a woman who was a friend of his mother’s and charged him almost nothing. He’s had a series of girlfriends over the years, and he’s totally honest about the fact that he’s not into commitment. Women generally love him, and he’s over 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:57 PM
1

I don’t think anyone has a problem with John McCrea being with a ~30 year old woman when he was 45. Especially since he’s 60 and they’re still together. People only have issues with men who date a series of very young women as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:50 PM
1

And all of her promotions since then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:28 PM
3

I think that the attacks on her are gendered. Also, I think there would be gendered attacks against her no matter what she did. For instance, Hillary Clinton had gendered attacks for being career focused and not standing by her man enough, and then also standing by him too much when he cheated. Michelle Obama had gendered and racist attacks against her for not working enough, implying that she was freeloading. Basically, no matter what women do, it’s the wrong thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:00 PM
2

John McCrea, the lead singer of the band Cake, is the nerdiest, most autistic guy you’ve ever seen. He’s also amazing and has a really successful band. He isn’t super open about his personal life, but he has said he and his wife had kids, which is why he took a break from recording and touring for a while. He stepped away to be a dad, and he didn’t need to work because he had enough passive income from his music. It’s pretty obvious, if you do the math, that he met a significantly younger woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:19 PM
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There are, but I would argue that feminism minimizes this kind of attitude. Women being taught that their “no” is valid even when a man has not committed a grave offense is important. So is it important for men to learn that a woman saying “no thank you,” isn’t to be met with whining, aggression, or an attempt to change her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:01 PM
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Argument from false premises
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:56 PM
4

She had sex, therefore woman bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:41 PM
2

They had long been broken up at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:30 PM
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Or maybe you’re trying to apply a term where it doesn’t fit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:56 AM
3

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:18 AM
8

Maybe this is your way of soothing your ego and rationalizing that you are in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:16 AM
5

Sexless/single women are not the same as childless women who use birth control and are married
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:14 AM
2

That doesn’t matter. If redpill was better than bluepill, then you would have someone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:12 AM
3

So you don’t have a girlfriend? All you’re saying is speculation and very hard to prove, but if you were right, it should net results. Why hasn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:10 AM
1

And how has game theory worked for you in your relationships? Are you successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:04 AM
1

No, men in the redpill cult are led to believe this. Most men are not into this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:21 AM
3

Most people don’t do that. Most women won’t break up with one guy to be with a hotter guy. I was describing hypergamy the way it’s actually depicted by anthropologists, not redpill propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:17 AM
7

Different individuals like each other more than other people. Think about guys you know. Some of them you really like, and some are decent people but you just don’t vibe. It’s the same with romantic relationships. A woman isn’t looking for the shiniest object. She’s looking for the guy she vibes with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:12 AM
4

Hypergamy is real but it typically means marrying someone wealthy. It’s much less common in developed countries anymore because women can earn their own money. People aren’t as status focused anymore either. Dating a good looking person doesn’t change your social prospects. Ironically, feminism makes hypergamy less necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:06 AM
8

I’m a Jew. I pray on Saturday
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:00 AM
8

She’s been a stepmother for years. And unlike Trump, she supports funding education. I am a parent, and I would definitely put her before Trump in caring for families
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:53 AM
11

Zero presidents have given birth. We’re only making an issue of it because people are terrible to women no matter what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:51 AM
4

Warren Harding didn’t have children, either. Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:35 AM
17

What problems has Kamala Harris caused? Did she shoot up a sorority house?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:34 AM
7

Again, he’s talking about at least two US presidents (George Washington and James Buchanan) Edit: it’s 5, actually. Washington, Jackson, Polk, Buchanan, and Harding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:28 AM
4

George Washington had no biological children
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:27 AM
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Kamala Harris is simultaneously being portrayed as a woman who had sex to advance her career and also as a person who lived a meaningless life because she never had biological children. Do you see this as problematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:25 AM
8

It’s not lacking in empathy to say you’re not interested when someone wants to go out with you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:00 AM
1

In fact, I was really uncomfortable with it when a guy asked me for coffee and then planned dinner instead
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:58 PM
7

People are allowed to not be interested in you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:57 PM
0

I have hobbies. The same guys who claim that women don’t have hobbies tell me that my hobbies (crafting, birdwatching, kite flying, community theater) are stupid. They want women whose hobbies are cooking, cleaning, and watching them play video games
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:06 PM
3

So your anger is that women are superficial and venal? Maybe you’re the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:41 PM
1

I’ve been married for 19 years. Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:27 PM
7

I once had a guy get mad at me because I wasn’t interested. He had a bunch of posters and bumper stickers with inspirational self-help quotes on his wall. I am not that person. I’m just not. I don’t condemn him for for being that guy, but that is not the guy for me. He’s in his early 50s and been divorced twice, so I don’t think that this was my failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:17 PM
1

Which is why it’s not about height, canthal tilt, chin, or money (since most of them are too young to be expected to have careers)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:09 PM
8

Sometimes the answer isn’t reflective of a person’s deficiencies. You just don’t feel compatible with them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:44 PM
7

I understand why men do this, but I don’t excuse it. You can’t just expect someone to fall in line because you have feelings. This is an autonomous human being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:43 PM
1

Everyone is miserable when they live entire lives putting on a mask to conform and ignoring the things they like
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:10 PM
0

Not to redpill men. Women never experienced any oppression ever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:39 PM
1

I don’t understand what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:37 PM
1

4 and 1 are utterly disposable. I can deal with introverts, and nobody I knew had a house in their 20s. In my 40s, it would different. 2 and 3 are non-negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:37 PM
4

Exactly. I do the cooking because I’m an awesome cook. My husband usually does the laundry. It evens out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:18 PM
4

I don’t cook and clean for a man. I cook and clean because it needs to be done. And I won’t be the only one who does it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:07 PM
3

Feminism doesn’t teach that. Third wave feminism DEFINITELY doesn’t teach that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:05 PM
6

I have never seen a woman suggest that a man hits the wall at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:02 PM
0

Definitely not. The opposite of incel isn’t “happily married feminist with kids.” Well, maybe it is, but not in a horseshoe way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:39 PM
1

I was never an alt girl. Think more librarian who loves Anne of Green Gables too much. I always dated STEM guys, and I married one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:26 PM
-1

Exactly. Men are so couched in patriarchy that they can’t see that their inability/unwillingness to foster close relationships is a shortcoming. They center the male experience so much that they just explain it away as “how men are.” The thing is, it’s bad for men to be this way. And not only are women not this way, but men weren’t always this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:13 PM
1

I have a lot of friendly colleagues, people I do stuff with, but who I may not have tons in common. Like today I am going to volunteer in the kitchen of my synagogue. Exactly one of the people there is a close friend, and the rest are just friendly associates. That’s okay, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:08 PM
-3

I think they think that closeness between men is gay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:06 PM
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If one person routinely retracts consent after they have their orgasm and before you have yours, that’s manipulation. You should go into sex assuming that everyone should be happy when they’re done. Obviously there are exceptions, if someone is exhausted or begins feeling ill or whatever, but it should be a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:56 PM
1

I watched OG Degrassi, not the one with Drake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:51 PM
1

Nope. My son plays Pikmin and has a D&D group on discord with some alumni of his school (he’s the youngest of the group as a high school senior. The rest are freshmen and sophomores in college)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:50 PM
1

Sorry, it sounds like you live in an Avril Lavigne song, not the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:46 PM
2

This is the big problem: these guys don’t want to be in a club that would have them as a member, to paraphrase Groucho Marx
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:45 PM
1

Being an antisocial jerk who hates the people who deign to spend time with you isn’t a winning strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:31 PM
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Women aren’t whining
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:22 PM
3

No, the fact that you talked about meeting women as “the formula for how to get a pussy” and repeat incel tropes about how women are valued by just existing make me think that you are not successful with women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:54 AM
2

Exactly. My happiness is my responsibility, so I am not going to waste my time with unpleasant people. If you see women as nothing more than a pussy with an inconvenient human attached to it, I am not surprised that you have trouble attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:20 AM
0

In order to make a relationship worthwhile, you have to make someone’s life better. Would you want to be in a relationship with a woman who made you unhappy? Why should someone want you if you don’t make them happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:52 PM
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If you spew incel crap, you’re right, nobody is going to like you. Last I checked, women make money and don’t need men to survive. The playing field is equal. You don’t get a woman unless you can make her life better than being alone. Being fun to be with is a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:22 PM
2

This happened to me in middle school in about 1988 when everyone I knew suddenly found out that we were all watching an angsty Canadian show about middle schoolers in Toronto on PBS called Degrassi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:11 PM
6

Exactly. You find your own tribe of weirdos. The phenomenon I observe in small towns in New England is that card/game stores really attract these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:51 PM
1

EXACTLY!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:46 PM
4

I have not been on this sub for years. I joined about a month ago. My husband and I are both super smart nerds. He’s an engineer and I’m a science teacher. We like each other, and we like ourselves. We have found other smart nerds who like us, too. Some of them are into nerdy things. Dr. Who and Star Wars? Check. Photographing trains? Check. Community theater? Check. Competitive trivia? D&D? Birdwatching? Check, check, and check. Most of them are either married or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:41 PM
3

You could solve your own problems
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:38 PM
3

This is your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:36 PM
3

My parents didn’t want a nerd for a kid. They are/were the models of “lead lives of quiet desperation.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:34 PM
2

So your kids are going to hate you. I’m happily raising a birdwatcher who plays D&D and a choir/theater nerd. Both have good friend networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:32 PM
4

So your kids are going to hate you. Also, as a teacher, I am always fascinated by the things that start with nerd culture and proliferate to become normie. Students who are popular athletes watching anime, for instance. If you put a blanket ban on something you consider weird, you’re just going to look out of touch to your kids’ generation. Another example: my dad hated that I listened to non-mainstream music. The way to fit in was to listen to what everyone else listened to. I still listen to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:29 PM
2

Do you have male friends? Do you have meaningful connections?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:21 PM
1

The men who want to blame women for their unhappiness don’t want to hear from me. I am often told that women cannot give any valid advice to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:20 PM
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Please don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:19 PM
2

I have encountered them online. To be fair, I troll incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:18 PM
11

My parents consider me an embarrassment because I’m a weirdo but my life is everything I ever wanted. My teenage kids are living awesome lives, too, and they’re both weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:12 PM
5

So what do you consider quirks? Don’t let your son join the D&D club at school? Don’t let your daughter join the jazz choir?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:11 PM
3

VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE. My parents raised my sister and me (born in the’70s) to be “normies.” She succeeded and I failed. My dad lived a life of social paralysis and few friends, working hard to conform himself around what others liked and did. He hated that I had nerdy friends. I met them through choir and synagogue. Those friends sat with me at his memorial. I married a guy whom I met while he was out transit fanning, which is one of the hobbies that attracts the most autistic people you have eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:03 PM
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Predatory divorce strategies (women marrying specifically for money or a green card and ditching the guy as soon as they get it) are rare. Even most passport wives are acting in good faith. Sure, they are looking for a guy with money, but they’re still trying to make a marriage work. They leave because the guy is an asshole. As far as caning adulterers, men are more likely to cheat than women. Your first paragraph is just straight up feminist, except that we believe in freedom of choice. Women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:47 PM
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Do you pay an excess of taxes? My salary is above the national median. Is yours? Do you give your life in war? Do women not give their lives in war? I hope you do remain single and cultivate friendships with men, if that’s what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:31 PM
0

There is a difference between incels and guys who can’t get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:25 PM
5

A lot of men just want to hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:24 PM
5

I have heard both directed at women in general from the same men. Not specifically at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:57 PM
8

Many women, such as myself, have chosen both at different stages of life. I stayed home when my kids were little because the numbers worked out better for us. Now that they are older, I teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:49 PM
6

I have seen many men run down both
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:26 PM
24

Men like to tell women that no matter what choice they make, it’s the wrong choice. The goal is to keep women insecure. Instead women are walking away from relationships. 1 in 6 women are voluntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:12 PM
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Are you under the impression that only men pay taxes? Also, aren’t you among the people who argue that men shouldn’t pay child support to their exes? So basically, you think that the proper punishment for a woman who leaves a man is for her and her children to starve and die in the streets while no other men consent to marry her because she’s valueless after being with another man. And you wonder why you have trouble forming relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:51 PM
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Okay. If you’re going to do the “women’s lives only improved because men allowed it to happen” line, then I can see why you don’t succeed with women. Hint: it’s your misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:34 PM
1

How did you know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:26 PM
3

So you admit the majority of men have relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:16 PM
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I mean, a majority of men don’t care about women. In fact, men on this very sub will shame other men for caring about women, calling them white knights and simps. If you want people to care about you, reach out to them. Take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:15 PM
1

So you assume that the women you want aren’t going to want you back? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:12 PM
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You not whining and complaining on the internet all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:59 PM
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I am going to not care, since they’re not my responsibility. Why should I do anything? I have friends, my husband has friends, my son has friends, and my daughter has friends. The rest of you are not my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:38 PM
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Maybe men should care about each other more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:09 PM
7

Agreed. The manosphere is about making money off of men who hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:09 PM
2

I grew up in a household where my parents should have gotten divorced but didn’t. It would have been better for us if they had
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:57 PM
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How is it a danger to women when men have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:45 PM
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Maybe you should become likeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:43 PM
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I have a husband because I had the social skills to get one and didn’t sit around complaining about men all day. I recommend you stop complaining so much as a strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:43 PM
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So you don’t find normal women attractive and only find the most attractive women worthy? Do you ever have conversations with people? Have you ever liked anything about women other than their appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:41 PM
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Why is it our job to take care of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:01 PM
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So you think this is better than actually being with someone who likes you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:50 PM
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The pandemic happened in the middle, which greatly increased isolation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:42 PM
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Just because someone wrote an article about it 7 years ago doesn’t mean that it’s caught on
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:35 PM
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People who subscribe to actual incel ideology, not just guys who don’t date? Not that many
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:31 PM
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That seems like a shortcoming that they should work on
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:30 AM
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Honestly, though, if I didn’t have my husband, I have a lot of female friends whom I could hug, and failing that, I have my cats. If men are lonely, why can’t they turn to other men? I suspect a lot of men’s problems are from homophobia
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:23 AM
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To me, a creep is a guy who comes on strong after I have given him no reason to do so. It requires a certain lack of awareness and a certain level of presumption for me to go there. Do some women label men creeps over non-creepy behavior? Maybe. Would a woman label a guy she’s not interested in a creep for doing something that a guy whom she’s interested in could do and not be called a creep? Also maybe. However, it’s in a guy’s best interest to get a strong vibe of a woman being interested befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:31 PM
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Or we’re not cultists
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:38 PM
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I was forced to pick a flair under the new Reddit system but I think calling oneself blue pill is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:21 PM
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Bad when it comes from either gender. And I think dating apps definitely promote it which sucks. But the solution isn’t redpill bullshit. It’s people communicating with each other through their social networks. I have a suspicion that a lot of this probably has to do with the weakening of worship communities and the move from smaller cities to larger cities. I’m not suggesting that people go to church if that’s not their jam, but people need to start hanging out together more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:45 PM
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Okay, you’re almost there. Can you accept that 1. Each person’s attractiveness hierarchy is slightly different, and 2. People are entitled to find whatever they want attractive as long as they aren’t abusive to people for living their own lives, and 3. Another person exercising their autonomy by not finding you attractive doesn’t make them a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:34 PM
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I thought that Daniel Craig was beta because he took care of his kids and Jason Momoa was beta because he wore pink
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:54 PM
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And once men started choosing it, people stopped hiring women. Did you know that there used to be separate classified ads for men’s jobs and women’s jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:43 PM
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Women never say unkind things about my husband. Only alpha males online do. Is that because women are misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:11 PM
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You said that people have different values. So why should what other women want matter? You are contradicting yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:45 PM
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So when you talk about high value men, it can mean anything you want it to? So when you tell me I failed to lock down a high value man and had to settle for betabuxx, I can say that my nerdy, smart husband is high value in my opinion, and I will be right? In other words, if people are happy with what they have, it’s not up to anyone else to classify or criticize it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:34 PM
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Right. So there’s no universally recognized high value man, and alpha males don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:15 PM
1

Right. So there’s no universally recognized high value man, and alpha males don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:14 PM
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I just assume that you guys get your stats from online anecdotes and not from actual humans
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:39 PM
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So they’re incredibly common and also invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:32 PM
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I mean, you could attempt to insult me for being stupid, but you would be wrong. The incel narrative is “feminist women circumcise boys because they hate men” as stated by the poster above. The practice of circumcision was invented by men and usually championed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:26 PM
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I live in the world and rarely see it. I certainly don’t see it among my friends. Do you see it among your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:21 PM
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You’ve never been to a zoo? I have. They exist. You’re welcome. Redpill guys act like very young women dating much older men is common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:18 PM
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It means it’s something men do to boys for tribal identity reasons. It’s not something women do to boys because they hate them and want to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:14 PM
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I find that the definition of high value is fluid depending on the incel who uses it. If the incel is over 6’, then suddenly women only date men over 6’6”. If the incel has bought premium redpill content that says women will date older men with money, the incel buys crypto and hopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:09 PM
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Except when they’re betabuxx. Keep up. High value alpha means only looks when betas have the money, but it means money when alphas have the money. This makes sense and doesn’t contradict itself at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:59 PM
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I never knew 18-year-old women dating 35-year-old men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:57 PM
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So is that just betabuxx then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:57 PM
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Why do you get angry at women wanting men who have any merit at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:26 PM
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A higher proportion of incels are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:02 PM
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Got a link? There’s relatively little study on testosterone levels in men over time. We know it’s been dropping over the last few decades, but we don’t know if it was at artificially high levels, or if dropping testosterone levels are a bad thing, even.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:30 PM
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Irrelevant. Incels are a violent group
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:29 PM
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Did the study indicate that testosterone levels decreased? Or maybe low-testosterone men make better husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:15 PM
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This isn’t comprehensive. The guy who threw the kid over the railing at the Mall of America had originally gone there planning to harm a woman instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:04 PM
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This is a pathetic excuse especially in light of the multiple incel murderers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:49 AM
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Oh, right. Alpha males are broke, don’t commit, and don’t have children, and also don’t care about women’s orgasms. How could I forget?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:35 AM
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Nope. But this is the weirdest attempt at an insult I have ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:34 AM
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There are lots of good looking guys I wouldn’t sleep with because I prefer intelligent men. I’m even married to one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:37 AM
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I married a guy who is incredibly smart and had a good job when I met him. He’s cute but I wouldn’t describe him as Chad. He’s 5’7. We’ve been together for 20 years. Should I have chosen someone unemployed and less interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:36 AM
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I do find most men repulsive. Most men are less intelligent than I am, and they fail to hold my interest. I will be polite to most men, but brains are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:57 AM
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Am I the only woman who needs at least one semi-deep conversation with someone to know if I’m attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:18 AM
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I do all the cooking in my family and most of the grocery shopping. It’s a thing that needs to be done and I do it. It costs 3-4X as much to eat out as it does to cook. I spend about $300/week for our family of 4 (including 2 hungry teenagers)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:37 AM
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That link doesn’t say anything about mothers being feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:33 AM
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I’m playing the long game, as we’ve been together 20 years and our kids are teens. I’m a fat old hag and he’s peaking in SMV in his 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:25 PM
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I hope they see the light. Nice to meet you. I’m a run-through post waller who found a guy for betabuxx. I’m assuming you’re a cuck simp?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:00 PM
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Why do you spend your time inventing gothic scenarios like this? Women earn their own money now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:36 PM
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If your view of what’s acceptable is that narrow, you’re causing problems for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:37 PM
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I mean, good. More women should be hearing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:36 PM
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I mean, I don’t think you have a chance to get women because you’re belittling and mean. Maybe try not being like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:35 PM
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I dated a guy who went on to do porn. He and I didn’t have porn sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:29 PM
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Cats and ice cream (I don’t drink). The smart guy is a jealous asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:17 PM
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You think those are accurately reported statistics? I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:36 PM
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The OP said porn can teach you how to have sex. I said porn won’t teach you what women want. Sponge said who cares what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:24 PM
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Reality doesn’t support this attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:15 PM
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Autonomy makes women better at getting out of bad relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:14 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:08 PM
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I’m fascinated by your self-inflicted wounds
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:07 PM
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Abuse goes down as women’s autonomy goes up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:07 PM
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I think a lot of guys don’t realize that women are turned off because they’re jerks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:06 PM
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I’m married, so I think I probably know more about interpersonal relationships than you do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:06 PM
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Maybe the problem isn’t their looks? Most high profile incels look normal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:58 PM
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You see yourself as a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:35 PM
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I mean, maybe women don’t reject you for being short…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:33 PM
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Tell me more about the anger/acceptance phases
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:14 PM
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I often joke that the behaviors that RP dismisses as “beta simping” (making good money, being equal with household chores, caring about a woman’s orgasm) sound more like “ideal husband behavior.” Your girlfriend is, or your future girlfriend will be, a very happy and lucky woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:13 PM
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I’ve been married for 19 years to a man who treats me well. Has being unkind to women gotten you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:11 PM
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What is beta strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:10 PM
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Porn does not accurately depict what women want in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:29 PM
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I think these are cases where men literally stop trying after they get the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:17 PM
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I am not. I have heard of women being with men who stop showering when they move in/marry/etc. it’s seen as bad for women to leave men for things men can fix, and redpill tells me that a woman who leaves a man, especially if she has a child, has less SMV. So the blindsided women try to fix the disgusting men who changed after they were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:14 PM
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I wish I knew how much time babies take, but also how temporary the baby stage is. People really do lose their personalities for a while, but usually they get them back
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:11 PM
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Really? Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:03 PM
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If a guy is always well groomed when he picks you up for a date, and you move in with him and he stops showering, I don’t get how women are at fault for that but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:02 PM
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I mean, you would have to conceive them through some method other than sexual intercourse
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:00 PM
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Boo effing hoo. Attractive women, too, but that doesn’t guarantee that they are treated better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:59 PM
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It’s very weird to wish for your children to be born with certain sexes In certain orders. The probability is very near random. You can try to plan how many kids you have (doesn’t always work) but you can’t plan which ones are going to be boys or girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:30 PM
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I wouldn’t know about that. That’s not the kind of sex I have. I did once have sex with a guy who thought that when he was done, we were done, whether I came or not. Not interested in that kind of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:27 PM
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My son is older
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:25 PM
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It’s interesting to me that men cry that women are too superficial about looks while they simultaneously abuse fat women for existing. You can literally not talk about fat women. Nobody is forcing you to abuse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:23 PM
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I get told that I’m misandrist all the time despite being in a happy marriage, having male friends, etc. But redpill men online tell me my husband is a beta simp cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:01 PM
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In fact, I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:58 PM
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This is the underlying problem with seeing people as objects and not as humans
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:56 PM
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Usually I see it happens because of something like children or grad school. It’s less that they stop trying and more that they get really busy with something else
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:55 PM
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Circumcision is a patriarchal practice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:51 PM
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I have a son and a daughter. I think they’re both awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:50 PM
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My husband doesn’t feel that way about me and wouldn’t describe our sex life like that. You’re the one who said it about your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:49 PM
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I know many who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:48 PM
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Maybe with you they are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:25 PM
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You would be surprised how hard it is to get guys to admit that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:22 PM
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Yes. But she had no way of knowing. Again, very different from a woman who goes from single to married to mother of an infant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:21 PM
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Honestly I would rather they try and get it wrong, as long as they are willing to learn what they did wrong. I teach chemistry. Some of the most logical guesses are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:20 PM
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That’s sad. I wouldn’t be with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:17 PM
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If you’re not enjoying giving pleasure, you have no business having sex. That’s for all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:16 PM
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Nobody is to blame as long as everyone is ready to be done. If only one person climaxed and the other person did not and wants to, you’re not done. If you get yours and don’t want the other person to get theirs, you’re to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:15 PM
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This is a sad viewpoint. I just went to a wedding in February. The bride is very average looking and the guy she married is also average looking and also short. They are both super nerdy and crazy about each other. The wedding was the best time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:01 PM
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I have a son. You have a very active fantasy life if you think this is how mothers view their sons
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:54 PM
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Oh, women are bad if the men they date fall short. It’s not that men do wrong. Blame women always.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:44 PM
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He would do them when he went out, but once they started staying in and living together and seeing each other every day, he stopped
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:27 PM
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I teach high school, and my big thing is to tell kids to trust their instincts because they won’t answer questions unless they know they’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:25 PM
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So you admit some men are misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:24 PM
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You’re a man. Why do you assume you know what goes on inside other women’s heads?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:23 PM
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Do you assume only hot people have happy relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:22 PM
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My parents are/were terrible people who refused to accept me for who I am. I’m much happier without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:29 PM
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All of them are too young for me. Add 20 years to their ages and assume they have relevant work experience that puts them relative to guys in their 40s, and Luke is the only choice, especially if he’s funny
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:27 PM
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I hear lots of redpill men referring to women as landwhales. Is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:24 PM
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This is not an emotionally healthy take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:23 PM
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I just took my son on a college visit. The questions some of these parents were asking were crazy, like it was obvious that they were intending to pick their kid’s schedule
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:16 PM
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I have heard this from women whose spouses do nothing outside of work. If you’re going to do all the work maintaining your home with no help, there’s no point in being married
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:14 PM
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If you’re into someone and they’re not into you, you shouldn’t act like they’re the villain for having autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:02 PM
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Most of these guys come on really strong to women who don’t know them and aren’t into them, or they don’t approach women at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:48 PM
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Right. But which one? Because if she dates any redpilled loser, all the other ones are going to get mad. Also, it’s alpha to cheat and not commit, so she’s going to have the choice of not having a boyfriend but getting stuck in a situationship with a guy who rejects her, which lowers her SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:47 PM
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But acting like a hopeless victim isn’t the way to go. Average and below-average-looking men get relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:39 PM
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My feeling is that a lot of people don’t know themselves very well. If you don’t know who you are, you can’t know what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:32 PM
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That’s a lot of women. What was it about them that made you choose them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:31 PM
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But at the same time, the world is not populated with “women who get to date Robert Pattinson” and “women who live lives of constant disappointment.” You don’t have to be the most attractive guy in the world to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:30 PM
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You think men don’t? I have read so many stories about “my boyfriend stopped brushing his teeth and showering now that we’re living together.” Very different from “my wife wears pony tails and has gained 20 pounds since she gave birth to our child 3 months ago.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:28 PM
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They want women to not be autonomous
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:22 PM
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Literally all the time. “The bitch put me in the friend zone.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:16 PM
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You should do your best to be the most attractive you can be, but that doesn’t mean that only the most attractive people get relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:08 PM
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Why did you flirt with all of the women in your friend group?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:07 PM
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But being with you lowers their SMV, and you won’t want them if they want to wait for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:21 AM
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Blue pill is just normal people not in a cult
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:28 PM
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I’ve been married for 19 years. My mom was in a terrible marriage and is now in a relationship with a guy who constantly talks shit about her. I am much happier than my mom ever was. Why should I listen to you again? Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:40 PM
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So good for you and all the women I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:38 PM
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So I’m just curious: if women are supposed to not look for guys who have money, guys who are good looking, etc., what should we look for? I’ve already been told that there’s no point for men to be nice to women, women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, and women’s sexual pleasure shouldn’t matter to men. What is the benefit of being with a guy? I mean, I love my husband, but I’ve been told I just married him for betabuxx because I was alpha widowed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:51 PM
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Looks aren’t the most important thing and also probably not why women are rejecting you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:57 PM
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Got stats to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:25 PM
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Some do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:15 PM
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Clearly you don’t value looks at all and women are wrong for not being pretty objects to any man who chooses them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:15 PM
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Women are vilified for rejecting men. If a woman says she’s not attracted and you complain you’re a nice guy and she should be attracted, that’s not nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:57 AM
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How is it working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:46 AM
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So you’re saying it’s better to live under ISIS?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:26 AM
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I don’t hate the manosphere. I find it hilarious. I observe that it doesn’t serve you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:25 AM
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No, I’m just pointing out that the manosphere seeks to condemn women no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:04 AM
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You are aware that Hillary Clinton’s current job is being the chancellor of a university in Ireland, and she’s not in politics anymore, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:44 AM
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Good for you! Glad your life is great
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:37 AM
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Wrong <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:33 AM
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Would you date a woman who refused to sleep with you because she was trying to figure out if you were marriage material?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:24 AM
5

Ah. How many men make a woman unable to pair bond?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:19 AM
6

Oh I’ll do women should be virgins until they meet a middle class guy and then just settle down with the first one they date? Should men be in relationships with a woman who’s not interested in having sex? I just want to know if there are any correct choices women can make
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:14 AM
8

Interesting. But when she does stick with a guy who lives modest it’s betabuxx
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:59 AM
8

So we condemn women no matter what choice they make: rich guy means she’s a gold digger, middle class guy means betabuxx, poor guy and she should choose better. Are there any correct choices that women can make?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:38 AM
10

So women are obsessed with deadbeats and money?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:50 AM
2

Shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:22 AM
-6

I don’t have a problem with guys who play D&D. My husband is a railfan. He makes D&D guys look like the captain of the football team. Incels aren’t incels because they’re nerds. They’re incels because they are hateful misogynists. I’m sure there’s a woman for you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:54 PM
3

The stock market is higher now than it was under Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:51 PM
2

You realize the EPA was created by a Republican?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:50 PM
3

Right. It’s much better when people don’t have those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:48 PM
6

Right. Living in a nice place with breathable air and drinkable water with people not dying in the streets is vastly inferior to funneling all the money to the billionaires so they can tear up nice places that we might have all enjoyed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:53 PM
4

Building a functioning society is good for everyone. I don’t have the capability to explain to you that a place where people are not living in the streets is more desirable for everyone than a place where people are not living in the streets. Calcutta before Mother Teresa is not most people’s idea of utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:22 PM
9

Maybe if you hate all women for caring about other people, then people shouldn’t listen to you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:14 PM
-1

Maybe women aren’t the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:58 PM
-11

Most people in society are. This group is full of incels whose only hobby is hating women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:54 PM
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You know what you said. Stop trying to cry your way out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:06 PM
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Literally not what anyone said. Way to play victim because you won’t take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:58 PM
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Racist and misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:29 PM
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Most people who get married do so in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:11 PM
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You literally just described women who have sex as being unable to keep their legs closed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:11 PM
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Women are expected to be constantly sexually available and also virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:09 PM
8

Crazy how?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:59 PM
7

Meh. I’m not a gym bunny myself. As long as he can do light/moderate physical activity with me. Like going on a (slow) hike or walking around a city. As long as he can live within his means. A studio apartment and dates consisting of Thai food and second-run movies are fine. Credit card debt is unattractive. I don’t want to be expected to pick up after a grown man No. Gross. I drink very little and don’t do drugs. I don’t want someone who is constantly drunk/high, or who pressures me to drink/ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:54 PM
2

Danny DeVito met Rhea Perlman when they were both young and doing theater in NYC
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:30 PM
1

He’s short, redhead, and Jewish
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:25 AM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:55 PM
6

Same. I married one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:24 PM
6

And you think you’re granting women the right to vote out of magnanimity. If you’re forcing yourself to have sex that makes you uncomfortable, you are probably not in a good relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:51 AM
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You literally said women shouldn’t vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:42 AM
3

And they wonder why women aren’t attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:32 AM
14

You shouldn’t be obligated to have sex if you don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:30 AM
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It’s not interesting to me because the answer to 90% of the questions is that people should just break up. People need to be more okay with leaving relationships when they’re not happy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:17 AM
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A lot of your problems are a result of misogyny. I’m not crying. I’m giving advice on how your life could be better. Also, the comment was about misandry. You guys hate most men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:12 AM
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Yes because women voting doesn’t make you unsafe. Men raping and sexually harassing women makes them unsafe. I’m sure women don’t date you because you’re short.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:06 AM
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Access to another person’s body is a desire. If it’s a need for you to have sex more than you are in order to maintain your current relationship (lol) then break up. If you’re speaking in hypotheticals, stop imagining problems that you don’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:04 AM
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What flaws? My life is awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:02 AM
22

Access to another human being’s body is not a right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:58 AM
16

Again, I think this might be a bias you have because of the media you consume. Most long term relationships don’t result in dead bedrooms. Men can be the ones refusing to have sex. Not all women would think that a man would be obligated to put up with a dead bedroom either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:57 AM
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AWALT or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:54 AM
3

Ironically, I am still in touch with the ex and he married someone else. We were friends before we got together, so we just regard our relationship as a failed experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:47 AM
2

I was riding a city bus to my volunteer job at the library. It went through the tourist area of town, so it was usually full of people on vacation. This was 2004, so I sometimes talked to the tourists. Cute guy gets on bus and sits next to me. I asked him about his vacation, and we just started talking like we knew each other our whole lives. Like, he just “got” me. He followed me to the library, and I showed him around the art galleries. I had to get to my volunteer gig. He had to meet up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:12 AM
6

Women are intellectually equal to men. Not physically identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:49 PM
1

I would never ask my parents advice because they hated each other. I succeeded by doing the opposite of what they would want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:35 PM
0

Yeah, guys! Don’t listen to a person who had a successful love life! Definitely take advice from single and divorced guys online!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:32 PM
1

I like Billy better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:24 PM
1

I just think the whole thing is idiotic and self-contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:47 PM
1

Whoa, my husband must really be hot then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:20 PM
2

I met him while I was living abroad and when he went back to his home country, I didn’t miss him. He tried to get me to hook up a few years later when our paths crossed again, but I was dating someone else and not really interested
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:19 PM
2

Calling guys soy is pretty misandrist. You just really hate men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:19 PM
5

Women weren’t treating men with contempt. They were talking about their own experiences of being unsafe around men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:13 PM
0

Being in the top 20% in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:12 PM
1

So it’s alpha to have no money and be the end of your genetic line? That’s pathetic, seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:07 PM
2

The no true redpill fallacy. So just curious: if it’s actually beta for men to commit and have money that they share towards the building of a family (as u/leosandlattes suggests) do you consider yourself beta, or are you broke and the end of your genetic line?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:07 PM
1

Ask any guy on this sub who identifies as redpill if they would like to be called beta. Women report avoiding guys who self-identify as redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:16 PM
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Most redpill guys are single, so I’m not sure they understand much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:13 PM
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Do you think beta is seen as desirable by redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:45 PM
1

Lack of female attention
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:43 PM
1

That is what she said
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:40 PM
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So redpill sees it as beta/unmasculine to be in a stable, loving relationship. This is toxic and guys who think this way deserve to be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:02 PM
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Most of the men I know are nicer and more successful than the guys on this sub. You could try being better, but that’s the one thing you seem unwilling to try. If women don’t improve your life then go your own way and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:58 PM
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No, literally speaking to your problems, complaining about simps and betabuxx. You’re the cause of your problems
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:46 PM
1

I was a nerd as a kid. I went through periods of time in middle school where I didn’t have very many friends. As I got older, I found ways to keep up my friendships with other nerds. I’m middle aged and have lots of friends now, very few of whom are Chad or Stacy. I prefer being friends with people I like and who are good people. Similarly, I met a nerd guy and married him. Most of the nerds I knew growing up got married, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:45 PM
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Ahhh, and here it is. The misandry. I didn’t want the “Chad “ I dated. He was bad at sex. I wanted the man I have. We’re still making each other laugh after 20 years Women only marry for money. Men who marry and have jobs are beta. This is why you are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:40 PM
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Almost all of the guys on this sub show contempt to women and would be much better off if they spent more time talking to women and less time talking about women with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:32 PM
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Nope. Women build networks of friends. Men need to make women’s lives better in relationships than women would be on their own. At the minimum that means contributing effort to the best of your ability. If you’re a guy who expects a woman to never need emotional support and to do your domestic chores while you tell her it’s unfeminine for her to expect orgasms when you have sex, then she is literally better off single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:31 PM
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Yep, definitely don’t be a simp. My husband is a simp and he got laid last night.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:28 PM
0

Wow, that’s misandrist. I didn’t meet my husband until I was 28. I had had multiple long-term relationships as well as several shorter relationships before him. I knew he was the guy for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:27 PM
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Look, enjoy your life the way it is. You clearly don’t want to hear how to make it better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:14 PM
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Right? They want to fuck hot mannequins because their brains are rotted by porn, and they can’t connect that they are the cause of their own problems
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:33 PM
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You guys are so cruel to everyone and you don’t realize that this is a direct cause of your life being terrible. I find it sad but oddly fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:31 PM
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My life is great. I’m not crying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:27 PM
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Again, your assumptions in this post show me that you hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:10 PM
2

Absolutely, but a woman choosing not to sleep with you is not victimizing you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:10 PM
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You’re fantasizing about murdering someone over a sexual assault that hasn’t happened, and reflexively assuming all women fabricate sexual assault. This is why women reject you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:09 PM
-1

Right. So your misogyny is going to harm you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:00 PM
5

Top 20% in what way? My husband is definitely higher than the top 20% in intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:56 PM
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So you think that women loving non-Chads and saying they’re the best sex they’ve ever had and being faithful to them for 20 years and having their kids is emasculating them? Just admit you hate men who get laid, and you hate all women no matter what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:50 PM
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For less? Do you think my husband purchased me? Again, this attitude is why you are unsuccessful with women. I have solved your problems. Now you know what to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:48 PM
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No women claim that. All of us know someone who is being abused. I don’t think that abusers necessarily are getting laid more, and not every Chad is an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:40 PM
-4

That’s unfortunate. Maybe we should stop blaming and disbelieving women for having been sexually assaulted since it happens to men too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:39 PM
2

Height doesn’t matter to me. I don’t care if a guy is ripped. I like guys with nice faces. My husband has pretty eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:37 PM
4

Most men are looks obsessed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:36 PM
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My threshold for looks is at “kinda cute.” I don’t need a guy to look like a movie star
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:26 PM
5

Agree. That’s why I married a smart guy with a great record collection
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:24 PM
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You guys think women should date guys who aren’t Chad and get triggered when they do. Almost like your goal is to play victim and hate women. Don’t let me get in your way. You’ve obviously decided this works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:24 PM
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Ah, so you value virginity and think I was diminished by the time I met my husband when I was 28. Maybe this is why you fail with women. You’re openly contemptuous of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:22 PM
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False. I mean, I probably find fewer than 20% of guys attractive, but it’s not the same 20% for every woman. I find guys attractive who are super intelligent and really into music and obscure media.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:45 PM
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I agree with this. I am in a really good marriage. I have friends in bad marriages, and things are worse for them than if they were single. So when women say that men they marry expect them to work full time AND do all the housework and childcare with no breaks, maybe believe them when they complain that life is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:38 PM
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Do they represent most women? Women you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:34 PM
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For some women. It sounds like you guys want the opportunity to be with hot women who don’t care about your personality and whom you don’t care about theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:31 PM
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Yes. Some women are superficial. Didn’t you just laugh at me because I said my husband wasn’t Chad but that I love him more and have better sex with him than I did with the guy whom I did consider to be a Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:29 PM
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I did, but he’s the one I love the most and the one I have the best sex with. I dated a Chad (briefly), and he was bad in bed. It’s amazing that you think that women are both superficial and only interested in looks and also that women who care more about other things than looks are jokes. Almost like you hold women in contempt for everything they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:27 PM
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Because some superficial women only care about looks. I am proud of you that you admit that the goal of redpill is to convince yourself that you can treat women with contempt and still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:18 PM
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Nope, but I haven’t seen a guy on this sub who can’t get a date who isn’t treating women with contempt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:16 PM
1

Women aren’t complaining about the universe being unfair to them in their love lives except in content intended to be consumed by vengeful men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:06 PM
5

When guys are openly treating women with contempt, maybe it’s obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:05 PM
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It’s interesting because I don’t think you would date a woman you found unattractive, but women are supposed to? My husband is 5’7”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:47 AM
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Men on this sub are so misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:46 AM
1

Yep. No men are misogynistic. I’m clearly hysterical
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:43 AM
6

They just want to whine and be victims
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:42 AM
2

Friends, coworkers, community (including religious community)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:42 AM
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They are not representative of most men. They are representative of men on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:41 AM
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Men on this sub be like “all women are dishonest, zero personality, no hobbies, high body count, post wall hypergamous bitches who won’t date me because I’m under 6 feet tall.” Sure, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:38 AM
14

Most women who want marriage are not looking for it on apps
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:24 AM
0

He doesn’t complain
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:21 AM
1

Oh, my fault. I thought that’s was the point of this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:19 AM
1

Obviously it’s all women’s fault and not crippling social anxiety on the part of a guy who has been explicitly set up with a woman who also knows that they were set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:42 AM
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I haven’t heard him lament a predicament
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:20 AM
1

Exactly. Find someone you really like and are attracted to, and build something with them. You keep getting closer. It’s not like romance novels, but over time, you come to realize that this is a much closer relationship than you have with your parents, friends, etc. even if most of your conversations are managerial in nature
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:58 PM
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I don’t think that none of them deserve sympathy, but they need to come to terms with the fact that all manosphere content is overly reductive and almost always deeply misogynistic. I have been told on this sub that calling out misogyny is acting like a victim, but redpill guys don’t typically have the reach to victimize anyone but themselves. They are ruining everything for themselves and need to stop shooting themselves in the foot and listen to people in happy relationships. The sad part is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:28 PM
2

I wanted a record collecting geek who did deep dives into the back catalogs of favorite artists. Genre was unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:10 PM
0

I still think it’s stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:00 PM
1

I still think it’s stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:00 PM
0

Because I needed flair for the subreddit and there were only a few choices under the new interface
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:53 PM
4

And they can’t figure out why it’s not working for them!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:47 PM
-1

No, it’s generally ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:47 PM
1

My son has a friend who probably weighs 300 lbs. He’s the sweetest guy and definitely has a nice face. I would believe that he could get a girlfriend eventually, except I have a very strong suspicion that he’s considering the priesthood
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:33 PM
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Funny, I have been told by redpill men that any man who gets in a committed relationship is a beta simp. Relationships are about two people being happier together than they were apart. Both parties should win and consider themselves the winners
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:16 PM
5

This is very insightful. I have set up people before, we’re talking nerdy, awkward people, and they seem to get along, but they somehow can’t close the deal. Maybe they’re terrified to move beyond “this has been a really nice conversation” to “I really like you, let’s be more than friends.” Of course these are adults, and my role, in my opinion, is to introduce them and back off, not play Emma or Cyrano to awkward people who can’t get it together. Also, re: redpill rotting brains, I have definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:02 PM
2

30s-40s, mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:49 PM
0

Nobody no normal person would ever call himself alpha or anything pill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:48 PM
0

A bluepill guy who calls himself alpha? Suuuuure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:36 PM
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The single men I know who are not terrible people: Are terribly shy Might be denying the fact that they are gay. The single women I know who are not terrible people: Are terribly shy Have overly possessive parents
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:22 PM
4

Okay? You guys tell me all the time that relationships are bad for men and only simps marry. Did you agree or refuse? Sounds like you consented.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:46 PM
5

Sex is a mutual decision. It’s not a gift from one person to another. This is literally the world that feminism wants
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:41 PM
1

But yet so many of us marry guys who don’t meet them. —speaking as a woman whose husband is not 6 feet, doesn’t have a 6 pack, and didn’t make 6 figures until more than 10 years after we’d been together
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:35 PM
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Oh now Chad’s lonely? This is a new one. Poor Chad. And yeah, sex is a mutual decision between two people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:33 PM
0

Somehow I doubt you actually tried this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:27 PM
2

But you are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:20 PM
2

You might think differently if you ever spoke to one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:20 PM
5

My life is awesome while you guys live in a chronically online morass of self pity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:20 PM
2

Maybe just be normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:08 PM
2

Why are the women a hive but not the men who have similar women? You assume a level of individuality and autonomy in men that you don’t grant to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:08 PM
3

I mean, calling women bitches isn’t a great start. Women’s nature isn’t mysterious. We’re humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:05 PM
1

Because you’re whining all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:04 PM
1

I literally have no idea what you look like and I’m finding you unattractive Many redpill guys have made fun of my husband’s photos even though I love him
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:59 PM
2

Simply false
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:58 PM
2

What are those standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:27 PM
4

You guys are such martyrs. Pretending to be a victim is unattractive. Also, women can literally prove you wrong by showing you their dating history and you pretend to have ESP powers and know for a fact that they were secretly not attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:26 PM
3

How’s that working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:25 PM
2

Guys being similar is not the same as the same guy being passed around by women. And it figures that people who are friends would go for similar types
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:25 PM
4

I have never seen this happen post high school
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:23 PM
3

When you build a life with someone, it’s not worth it. I have joked many times that there’s no dick good enough to lose my marriage and family over. Same thing applies to men. Most of them are smart enough not to fuck it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:00 PM
-3

Most states push for 50/50 these days
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:54 PM
5

It’s my experience that most men outgrow that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:54 PM
6

On your tiktok algorithm, not on normal social media. My social media doesn’t have that. Mine is mostly kitten videos and mom stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:30 PM
1

I don’t think you know very many people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:29 PM
-2

Is this why men oppose paying child support for their own children?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:25 PM
5

So you don’t have data. You’re just relying on the availability heuristic and the premium content you purchase from redpill podcasts
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:18 PM
6

Based on what data?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:10 PM
6

Sure, but is it to their advantage? And if they believe that sleeping with women devalues women, is it ever possible for them to be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:00 PM
9

So three sisters who look alike don’t actually count as individuals because they look alike? And you believe most women are delusional? These two things might be insights into why you are unsuccessful with women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:46 PM
3

Sigma = I did all the stuff the redpill influencers told me to do in the premium content and I still didn’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:44 PM
16

Chad is the incel’s proxy abuser fantasy. Incidentally, do you assume it’s to men’s advantage to have meaningless sex with women they use and discard?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:42 PM
1

Definitely Julian. Maybe Theo if he would go birdwatching with me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:34 PM
3

Okay. It sounds like you just want to feel smart about a stupid subject
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:38 PM
2

In my experience, men online change the definition often. For instance, they consider having a high-paying job in an office to be beta. Being a personal trainer at a gym is alph, though. It used to be (10 years ago) that alphas had money. Not anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:01 PM
1

Oh, so you didn’t live by your own advice and you did just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:31 PM
2

This is an ouroboros of bullshit. There is no such thing as an alpha male. It’s the fantasy of losers who want to abuse people and be admired for it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:31 PM
1

Is that working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:14 PM
1

Of your own beliefs. You suddenly got so vague and cagey
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:48 AM
1

https://youtu.be/0Ti86veZBjU?si=sS4hAIRVKARM9Yy9
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:42 AM
0

If you think you need to lie to women, you will never be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:32 AM
4

Seriously, if I were looking to go on first dates, I’d suggest interesting ethnic food before something fancy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:52 AM
-1

Let people do what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:51 AM
4

True
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:29 AM
0

I wouldn’t have married my husband if he had conservative politics
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:29 AM
7

Maybe don’t try to control people so much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:25 AM
8

Either the rest of the world experiences life very differently from the way I do, or you guys are too chronically online to understand reality. I have never been taken out for fine dining on a first date. Most of the time, it was something cheap and ethnic or something funky and trendy but not fancy. And before I graduated college, we usually split the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:03 AM
1

People who are slightly overweight live longer than people at the recommended BMI range. Alcohol is unhealthy. Do you abstain?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:55 PM
3

You need therapy, not redpill podcasters
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:25 PM
1

I don’t need anything from you. I’ve been married for 19 years and am probably old enough to be your mom. But if you listened to me, you might have a shot at not being an angry loner
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:22 PM
3

You literally told me women don’t have personalities. I don’t think you’re being victimized as much as you are claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:20 PM
0

It’s not my job to convince you of my humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:19 PM
3

I think women who are in relationships have better advice to give than men who can’t get in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:19 PM
-1

I think the world has treated me pretty fairly. I’m just amused at how much men whine when it’s clearly their personality turning women off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:15 PM
2

Nope. But if you’re unsuccessful at social interaction, you are not in a position to give advice on how to be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:14 PM
-1

All of this is so wrong that I don’t know where to begin, but my guess is that you don’t listen to women so there’s no point explaining it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:13 PM
2

If they believe the world is unfair to them because they’re short, they’re not getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:54 PM
5

I am a feminist and have never heard this. How chronically online do you have to be to even know about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:52 PM
3

I just think it’s interesting that all these redpill guys who aren’t getting laid are giving each other pickup tips
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:45 PM
-7

You seem so ashamed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:44 PM
-1

Selling the dream? So you believe that the point is to deceive women into believing you want to be in a relationship with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:11 PM
0

So it’s not about health. Just appearance. So the question is, why do you care so much about the appearance of strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:34 PM
0

This is a peaked in high school opinion. Most doctors, lawyers, financiers, engineers, and computer scientists aren’t hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:27 PM
-1

Should people be ashamed if they smoke or drink?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:16 PM
1

I never suggested that it was the same as murdering someone. Nice straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:24 PM
0

Honestly, maybe in your tiktok algorithm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:18 PM
0

Smoking killed my dad. You only think it’s cool because you are one of those people who falls prey to marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:14 PM
1

Do you refuse to date drinkers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:05 PM
0

You said that it’s okay to shame people for their appearance. I get that people who generally lack in accomplishment think that appearance matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:04 PM
0

Shaming people for their appearance is trashy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:57 PM
-1

Men who believe that women lose in hookups while men gain, and men lose in relationships while women gain, are setting themselves up for a world of misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:56 PM
1

There’s no reason to assume a trend can’t reverse. The twentieth century saw a massive population boom due to longer life expectancy and reduced infant mortality. Birth control has made it possible to voluntarily limit fertility without being celibate. Right now, children are expensive and mostly a liability to people who are struggling financially. The human race is self-correcting after a couple of major paradigm shifts. We can do that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:25 PM
-1

Hey, it’s what you said. I’m just clarifying. Personally I don’t get that hung up on people’s appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:22 PM
3

Not really. I don’t think you have the power to give me permission to exist in the world. I take comfort in knowing that the people who still enjoy being high school bullies as adults likely peaked in high school
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:13 PM
1

Wow. But you guys cry so much when we point out misogyny. Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:12 PM
1

Right. Because you find them unattractive. It has nothing to do with health. The question is why you get so angry at fat women who have a public presence. Like why can’t a person talk about a fat woman being a talent musician or athlete without people bringing up how fat they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:38 PM
0

So you believe women all have faulty perception. Most of my friends are married. They talk about their husbands. Their husbands don’t treat them as inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:36 PM
2

But you excuse smoking. So your problem isn’t with health. Alcohol is a carcinogen. Do you refuse to date drinkers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:32 PM
6

Smoking is less healthy than being fat. Being slightly overweight actually increases old people’s chances of survival because they are better at weathering wasting illnesses
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:27 PM
2

Because you believe people should meet a minimum standard of attractiveness to be allowed to exist in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:25 PM
0

So they have the most hookups? Do you think it’s disrespectful to women to hook up with them? Do they have the most long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:22 PM
0

It’s not my experience that men who look down on women get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:21 PM
2

Can you link to something? Because the “millennials killed infidelity” trend is a real thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:05 PM
1

“Do the best” in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:03 PM
2

Do you think that women only act kind to men because they want to use them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:02 PM
4

I just think that redpill is hyper focused on scenarios like this that are relatively rare
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:24 PM
2

In general, young people cheat less than older people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:08 PM
0

Men still cheat more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:46 AM
2

Employed men? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:45 AM
1

Okay, but the hatred is specifically gendered in a way that wouldn’t happen if the people goofing around were men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:08 PM
1

Maybe talk to more women IRL and listen to fewer women who are fed to you through your algorithm
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:27 PM
1

I literally don’t care as long as he’s taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:19 PM
8

Being overly concerned with getting attention from other people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:18 PM
1

But the AI models itself around you. Also, being in a committed relationship, I will say that companionship is only part of it. Building together is important, and just having a teammate who is pulling the rope in the same direction is a great way to improve your life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:54 PM
1

I’m a Jew and I haven’t seen Jewish women reject Jewish men for being short
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:50 PM
2

And it’s a good thing that people who don’t want kids aren’t having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:13 PM
9

Nope. Divorce as a percentage of marriage is also down. Almost like when people have less social pressure to marry, the people who have no business getting married are less likely to mess up their lives by getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:19 PM
-1

Oh. Maybe the problem is the caliber of women you hang out with and not the act of travel. People can stay at home and fuck, too. I think you might be consuming too much porn if you think girls trips are about having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:13 PM
1

Why is travel a liability? I went traveling a lot in my 20s. I taught abroad and backpacked in a few countries. I went to museums and learned languages. I tried foreign cuisines. I saw beautiful, amazing things and met amazing people. Do you see that as a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:00 PM
1

Are you living in a western country? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:53 PM
3

Divorce and cheating rates are also down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:52 PM
3

Do you think that women who marry young enough don’t age?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:52 PM
-1

For a lot of ethnic groups, this isn’t even that short. I’m Jewish, and my husband is 5’7”. Hispanic and Asian women are also much more comfortable with short men, because on average they are shorter than Western European white people or west African-descended black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:21 PM
1

AI is just sad. I worry that creating an artificial facsimile based on your preferences can’t be mentally healthy for you. Also 23 is young. You can definitely still meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:17 PM
3

Ah. I definitely prioritize intelligence and personality. As far as looks go, average is fine for me as long as he’s an awesome guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:12 PM
1

Except people aren’t like this. I admire that you included categories that actually matter, like personality and intelligence, but you don’t have a fixed amount that you’re entitled to, and people are capable of being exceptional in one area without being deficient in another
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:54 PM
2

I wasn’t. I was talking to a person who was a friend, and I realized I was with the wrong guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:29 PM
2

All pills are stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:22 PM
2

This is what the manosphere claims: men who are in committed relationships have lost because relationships are unmanly and only benefit women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:10 PM
4

My husband proposed before he met my parents
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:08 PM
2

People are cheating less and divorcing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:08 PM
2

Maybe men should choose better. My husband and I met while he was on vacation in my hometown, and I was seeing someone else. We kept in touch and emailed/spoke on the phone (this was before texting was universal), and we decided that we should be a couple a few months later, because we really had feelings for each other. Because we were long distance initially, we asked all the hard questions right up front: marriage, kids, finances, where to live, etc. he moved to my hometown 7 months later. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:06 PM
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I mean, farmers married, but it was more like the guy down the road apprenticed to the bigger landowner who could actually afford to feed his family, and if the farmer liked the hired hand’s work ethic, and the hired hand spoke respectfully to his teenage daughter, he might offer her hand in marriage. But the servant class often didn’t have that option. They would just have sex with each other in secluded parts of the landowner’s estate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:02 PM
4

Yes, clearly the problem is women’s lack of humor
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:06 AM
93

Do we not have enough real things to be angry at that we’re outraged over some coworkers being silly together?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:08 PM
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Often, but not always
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:53 PM
2

Neither of these scenarios are typical
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:34 PM
5

Often not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:19 PM
34

The only thing I have ever seen women really complain about is men who misrepresent themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:28 PM
1

You said I was crying victim because women are taught how to accept when men don’t want them. That’s not oppression. Keep telling me how life is so unfair to you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:15 AM
1

It’s whining when you think it’s unfair that other people don’t grant you access to their bodies and you think you’re a victim. What were you saying about women that was a criticism other than that you didn’t like their autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:50 AM
1

I reject the idea that people bully fat women because they care about their health. When Demi Lovato got off drugs and started to address her mental health issues, people started making fun of the fact that she gained weight. I actually saw people claiming that she was LESS healthy as a fat person than as an intravenous drug user. The fact is that women are conditioned to believe that if we’re not hot, we don’t have a right to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:31 AM
1

I know what you meant, but you ironically exposed how whiny you guys are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:55 AM
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Are these women making you pay for their kids in the room with you now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:29 AM
1

You can google it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:41 AM
1

From the fact that you guys whine about it. Also from Arthur Chu’s essay about “your princess is in another castle”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:36 AM
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I’m not getting more from him than he is from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:34 AM
1

It definitely is victim mindset to believe it’s unfair when someone doesn’t want you back. It’s not victim mindset to accept it and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:34 AM
0

My son games, and he just spent a whole day birdwatching. My husband games and he just spent the whole day working and is going to spend the whole night with his family.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:01 AM
0

The guys on this sub don’t represent the majority of Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:59 PM
-5

I think that men are conditioned to believe that they are entitled to whatever woman they choose, and women are conditioned to believe that they need to accept who chooses them and make the effort to be appealing in order to be chosen. Most women don’t act entitled to men’s attention. Women are told “he’s just not that into you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:57 PM
0

It’s a way of framing things. You use descriptive terminology in your life as well. I have a degree in science and another in humanities. You think you’re being smart, but this argument is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:29 PM
0

Patriarchy is a descriptive term and is not a hypothesis. Falsifiability only applies to experimental data.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:16 PM
1

I have lots of female friends and a husband I love
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:55 PM
2

You guys have also told me that Joseph Gordon Levitt is average and Mindy Kaling is ugly and Margot Robbie is mid. So yeah, by those standards, he’s not Chad. Interesting that you seem angry that a woman would be happy with a guy who’s not Chad, while you disagree that there’s any subjectivity to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:51 PM
0

I never said I wasn’t attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:57 PM
6

The plural of anecdote is not data
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:19 PM
14

The average man has more sex partners than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:12 PM
6

Also, people who think personality doesn’t matter are people who have no personality. There are lots of nice, respectful people I wouldn’t sleep with because they’re boring or think I’m weird
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:11 PM
1

This is an elaborate rationalization. I find it fascinating that redpill claims to represent traditional values, but it also advocates against marriage and family as being inherently feminine and bad for men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:33 PM
1

I’m not mad. I’m married to an amazing guy and my life is awesome. I don’t lack for anything I really want. I’m saying you could be less miserable if you stopped hating women so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:54 PM
1

Yes, it’s obviously all women’s fault and you’re doing nothing wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:35 PM
1

I have been married since before dating apps existed, but from what other women tell me, there’s a huge shortage of actual decent guys on the apps. Lots of creeps who talk about sex way too soon. Or laundry lists of requirements on their profiles about what they want in a woman, but no description of themselves. Women aren’t looking for hookups. Apps have been dominated by men looking for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:34 PM
1

I don’t care about status and he has a great personality. He just wasn’t into reciprocating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:31 PM
0

I’m not mad. I get laid by the guy I want, and he’s not Chad and we’ve been together for 20 years
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:15 PM
-1

Yep, all women are duplicitous gaslighters but you’re not a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:14 PM
1

Not rare. Rachel Bloom literally talked about it on her show.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:13 PM
1

Sure, because women are going to match with any man they swipe right on because men are swiping right on literally everyone. The rest of this is the numbers game. Women don’t prefer to use dating apps, and men see them as a way to get low effort sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:13 PM
1

This is super weird, and I would avoid any man who believed he knew this about other people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:11 PM
2

A guy whom I’m really into who listens to me tell him what I want is light years hotter than a guy I’m meh about who has a basic idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:10 PM
-1

You’re saying that women debase themselves and “do the nastiest shit.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:07 PM
0

It can’t be your problem. It must be all women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:06 PM
2

I think I was just never neurotypical enough to have those problems. Let’s face it, the vast majority of people, men and women, learn how to get themselves off years before their first sexual encounter. So I was the one to move the guy’s hand and explain exactly what to do. Most of them were willing to listen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:05 PM
-4

Chad is the incel’s proxy abuser fantasy. You can take comfort in knowing you don’t get to abuse women because you assume they’re doing it to themselves for Chad, somewhere. It’s interesting that you think women bitch about the orgasm gap. Do you assume women don’t deserve orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:55 AM
-1

The hottest guy I ever slept with was bad in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:53 AM
0

Blue pill guys know how to satisfy women. Because when we tell them, they listen, and they do what we ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:53 AM
1

He’s been married for 10 years. Your fantasy about women throwing themselves at random men is…interesting, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:42 AM
0

Good luck with life. How have things worked out for you so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:40 AM
1

No, that’s not what I said. The data shows that women filter profiles at the swiping stage, reading what men write, etc. men filter at the matching stage, swiping right on everything and then only pursuing the women they match with who interest them. This is how you end up with the phenomenon of women getting messages from their matches that they’re ugly and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:39 AM
0

Maybe you hate women or maybe the women you talk to are boring. Or maybe you’re boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:35 AM
-1

Deciding not to be friends with women who won’t sleep with you is not necessarily the recommended takeaway, but you do you. Usually the emotional support goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:55 AM
1

Not really. You could be different
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:52 AM
2

I have all these questions, too. What does OP think this proves? It doesn’t say that men are more or less intelligent than women. It doesn’t say that women should stay home and raise children while men work office jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:17 AM
2

He’s 5’9”. Average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:46 AM
1

I think she’s cute. I don’t like to rate people on a scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:44 AM
0

Looks are subjective. I have seen way too many guys saying Margot Robbie and Sydney Sweeney are mid, and I think they’re both gorgeous. Another guy on this sub called Joey Gordon-Levitt average, and I think he’s adorable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:27 AM
1

Yes, which was one of the reasons why she couldn’t find anyone to sleep with. She hadn’t come to terms with her own sexual orientation yet. Her original group was a supportive place, and many of the members found partners, sometimes within the group
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:25 AM
0

I’m saying that they didn’t look closely enough at her profile (if we’re talking about the fake hirsute pig woman) and they probably wouldn’t have actually wanted to have sex with her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:22 AM
0

I mean, you guys act like 1. Men are the only ones who want sex, and 2. It’s wrong for women to want sex, and also, 3. All women whom you want to have sex with should have sex with you but not with the people they want to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:20 AM
2

From what I understand, a lot of women are fine with 50/50 because then they feel less pressured to have sex on the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:18 PM
2

Those women are shallow. Also, this is nothing like my previous experience with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:17 PM
-4

People only make fun of incels because of their creepy entitled attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:13 PM
-4

Everyone wants to fuck. It’s evolutionarily programmed into our bodies. This doesn’t mean you’re entitled to someone else’s body
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:11 PM
1

So she’s supposed to lower her SMV by sleeping with every guy who wants her? You guys have main character syndrome. If you don’t see any value in a friendship with someone, don’t be their friend. If they aren’t interested in you, that’s their right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:59 PM
-3

You’re too young to be this bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:55 PM
1

This is too common sense for most guys unfortunately but it’s solid advice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:49 PM
-2

I didn’t move a single goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:47 PM
-5

Matches mean nothing when men will swipe right on everything without even looking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:25 PM
1

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/daryush-roosh-valizadeh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:24 PM
5

I would rather be alone than be with someone who thinks I’m gross
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:28 PM
1

Monetizing your desire for women to be unhappy. It’s your algorithm, and it’s full of pick mes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:53 PM
8

Nobody’s that desperate, and nobody wants to interact with a desperate person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:52 PM
-4

The original incel was a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:33 PM
-8

Okay. Enjoy things the way they are. How’s it working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:32 PM
2

Forcing them to know chemistry against their will
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:24 PM
4

I find this whole story hard to believe. Why would he even interact with people whose lack of hygiene and grooming turned him off?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:24 PM
-6

I can understand that. It’s hard to be vulnerable with someone who makes you feel unsafe. I had a male therapist who was very good
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:20 PM
1

I wouldn’t know. I don’t use it. My daughter’s tiktok is full of makeup tutorials, cat videos, and pasta recipes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:10 PM
1

I’m above average in intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:09 PM
1

Just interesting. He never had a son and Alexander Hamilton had an absent father.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:09 PM
-2

You base your first paragraph on an unsupported statement
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:08 PM
-10

Patriarchy’s magic trick: if women do it, it’s stupid and has no value to society
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:07 PM
2

I can’t run an OR, but I can run a class full of high school students
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:24 PM
2

You think it’s classless for women to enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:58 PM
4

I’m in my 40s and wouldn’t be friends with a cheater. My mom cheated on my dad and a bunch of her friends ditched her over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:32 PM
1

Men here have zero empathy for men. Especially when those men are married to a woman who aging, or if they marry a single mom or a feminist. They hate non-Chads who get married, because it blows up their narrative that women are superficial and vain and don’t like nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:31 PM
4

Wow, that’s such a misandrist thing to say. If being low T means he lets me do what I want, hypes me up, and makes me cum, it sounds like a good deal to me. I’m sure those ex 304s are crying in their lattes over what some reject online thinks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:57 PM
2

This is an open forum and you’re looking for outrage. You’re welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:15 PM
2

You are so angry. I notice you respond to all my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:11 PM
2

Women aren’t failing though. There’s not a female loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:11 PM
1

I don’t know about that, but my husband chose me because he found me interesting. If I were average, he wouldn’t have liked me either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:10 PM
1

I can tell that you’re not that smart from the way you write. He’s smarter than you. It’s hilarious how you’re angry that a woman you don’t want prefers her spouse to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:08 PM
0

Dedicate my time? I was at my synagogue making 4 dozen bagels for a fundraiser event last night. I’m going to make another 4 dozen tonight. I also collected signatures for some friends of mine who are running for school committee. I also went grocery shopping yesterday and bought $360 worth of food so my family doesn’t end up eating out all the time. Last night I cleaned 6 packages of chicken, put up some wings to marinate for tonight and put a pot of bones on the stove to make matzo ball soup f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:06 PM
1

Ah, give them the Howard Roark treatment. That’ll show the wanton whores
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:01 PM
3

I am married. He’s really smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:56 PM
2

You seem so upset that women don’t want you but you want to tell all the women that they’re undesirable. Hm… My husband is smarter than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:56 PM
1

So you assume a woman who divorced is to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:20 PM
3

Acceptable by whom? Do you scorn them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:11 PM
1

He never had a biological child.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:11 PM
-1

I totally understand. I only go for really smart guys. The rest of you are just uninteresting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:09 PM
0

My husband doesn’t feel exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:49 PM
1

RooshV literally advocated raping women because he said sex was better with women with dry vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:47 PM
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I agree with this. I particularly think that the redpill/incel ideal of marrying the first person you date/sleep with will lead to higher divorce or at least higher unhappiness. I knew a lot of young people from the midwestern state where I went to college who married their high school or college sweethearts and ended up divorced or in unhappy marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:45 PM
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That number is falling, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:42 PM
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Redpill is anti tradition and family values. You guys are just fantasizing about someone using and discarding all the women who reject you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:41 PM
1

I discovered that there’s a time to see the world and a time to come home. I discovered that you shouldn’t settle on the issues that really matter. I discovered that cats are better than dogs about 90% of the time. I discovered that I really like teaching. I discovered that I wanted to eat a lot more vegetables than my mom fed me growing up. I discovered that I’m an amazing cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:11 AM
3

Women are simultaneously catty backbiters who hate each other and also unwilling to hold each other accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:08 AM
11

I think the “waaah you’re mean to autistic people “ crap is such a cop out. I know awesome autistic people. I have ADHD myself. I assume that you had one person messaging you with 3 sock accounts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:07 AM
5

Donald Trump has to buy women’s affection. Nobody actually loves him. His wife won’t even hold his hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:35 PM
2

Honestly, I have friends who are men in their 40s and older who are chronically single and probably autistic. The issue is not men being single. The issue is men being single because they hate women. OP in this post wasn’t bitter or hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:07 PM
1

It’s just the general woman hate I observe from men online
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:06 PM
5

You seem very angry at the idea of someone being okay with being alone. So I have learned from redpill that women looking for casual sex are devaluing themselves and should feel bad that they don’t choose better men. Women looking for relationships are just settling when they can’t land an alpha and should feel bad about themselves. Women who are married should feel bad about themselves because they’re post wall and their husbands could leave them at any time for a younger woman. Women who are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:59 PM
2

Maybe, but it doesn’t sound like her problem is a lack of kindness or decency, so why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:51 PM
8

Why should women be embarrassed? It sounds like she’s going her own way and not being bitter about it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:50 PM
3

I don’t think OP is whining. She seems pretty accepting of the ideas that you guys consider her to have no SMV. It’s almost like your real goal is to make her upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:46 PM
3

You are never entitled to someone else’s romantic attention, and you are always entitled to leave a relationship for any reason. That’s true for men and women. The only time I judge people for leaving relationships is if one party was really using the other party for resources or labor and then leaves when the dynamic shifts. Like one person puts the other through college, or one person leaves when the other one gets a terminal illness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:24 PM
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The patriarchy is not good for men, either. Having emotions is seen by men as weak and effeminate. This doesn’t come from women. If a man is as depressed as he suggests in paragraph 4, he needs a therapist and possibly a prescription. That is more than a partner can fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:38 PM
2

Don’t ask me, it’s what you guys advocate. Couldn’t be my life. I chose well and you hate me for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:17 PM
2

Still married to him. He’s also Jewish and a musician and my soulmate. I was speaking hypothetically if I were single and on dating apps and happened to see a guy like Joey on one. Am I supposed to bail on him because he aged? I thought women hit the wall and men didn’t age, so men were supposed to leave their old wives for younger models with higher SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:28 PM
10

Skinny Jewish musician? Sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:54 PM
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I’m on summer break from my job. I have been collecting signatures to get school committee candidates on the ballot, chauffeuring my kids around, etc. today I have already spent over $300 on groceries and I’m not done. Maybe you’re not being productive, but you can speak for yourself. Also, remember, I am married. I got the prize. I did everything you said not to do and my life is awesome. How’s your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:13 PM
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This is the weakest defense of male infidelity I have ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:52 PM
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Click through to the study they cite and it literally says the opposite. Garbage journalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:57 PM
22

Since when is Joseph Gordon Levitt average?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:50 PM
1

I’m more a fan of the 100/100 model, myself. Each person contributes as much as they can in every way. This might not mean equal in each area, but it becomes equal overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:45 PM
3

The millennial dry bar phenomenon is awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:43 PM
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Redpill makes no distinction between relationships and meaningless sex. More than 3 previous partners = unable to pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:38 PM
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I don’t need you to lecture me on how to improve, because I’m in my late 40s and have been with my husband for 20 years. Has your lecturing women on their need to improve netted you any results? Got your tradwife yet? Also, women are improving. The majority of law students are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:37 PM
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He said, citing no evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:05 PM
10

And guys like that end up angry, single, and rejected, so…yay?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:23 AM
1

Okay! Sounds like you have a life plan! I’m already married, so this doesn’t hurt me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:22 AM
15

Most cheating is done by men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:11 AM
11

Have you ended up with someone you like? How do you come to terms with the fact that she’s going to hit the wall eventually?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:10 AM
8

This is so true. I’m getting friendly with the guy who lives across the street from a close friend of mine. The first times I saw him were when I was visiting her. Then in 2016 we were in line together when we were voting. I saw him a week ago when I was visiting my friend, and we talked about his job in the same industry as my husband’s. He gave me his card to give to my husband. Last night I was collecting signatures for school committee candidates, and I asked him to sign. He liked the shirt …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:55 AM
1

This again? They’re in the seventh level of hell that is Costco WITH THEIR CHILDREN. She’s not avoiding him. She’s just really busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:28 AM
3

Gina Gershon looks amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:16 AM
3

Henry Cavill is losing his hair. Brad Pitt has some really good plastic surgery. Tom Cruise just doesn’t look as good as he used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:15 AM
12

College educated women are more likely to stay married overall though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:12 AM
6

Has this worked for you? Did you get your tradwife?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:09 AM
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How do you suggest women not age? I just find it very interesting that social conservatives like redpill when there’s nothing traditional about it. The redpill suggests men should repeatedly use and discard women. The only thing that redpill keeps from traditional male/female dynamics is the misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:08 AM
1

I was agreeing with you that the number of women on dating apps is likely shrinking. They aren’t a good way to meet people, and most women aren’t interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:20 PM
2

I kind of agree with this, but without the misogyny. Men should be looking for women they connect with. They should find a woman they really like and make her feel special. A man messaging some random woman on tinder and informing her that she’s pretty and should therefore suck his dick is not going to work for her. Your standards shouldn’t be “woman I can convince to date me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:12 PM
1

If you assume women are out to use you, then maybe stay away from them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:09 PM
1

I don’t worship my husband, but I really value him
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:08 PM
1

Most sex isn’t from hookup culture
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:07 PM
0

What benefits does casual sex have for women? They don’t cum and they’re told it lowers their value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:07 PM
1

Literally never happened. There was a whole servant class for thousands of years that basically had non-monogamous sex while living in the homes of wealthy landowners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:06 PM
3

The percentage of women who can be “on a boat” is really small. There just aren’t enough rich guys who are going to wine and dine you in style. Also, they’re not looking for relationships and are going to drop women when they age. My neighbor is friends with a woman who used to be one of those girls. She’s in her 50s, lies about her age (she’s quoted a few numbers to me), and drinks too much. She’s still working shitty jobs and is living a much less interesting life than the one she lived in her…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:04 PM
1

I think he was implying that you were working so you had money. If you didn’t spend it now, you could sock it away
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:59 PM
1

SMV is stupid and not real
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:57 PM
13

You might be repelling her with your personality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:55 PM
3

My son is a good-looking short guy. He’s also painfully introverted. He had a girlfriend for over a year during his freshman/sophomore years of high school
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:46 PM
12

Or you need to touch grass and none of this is what reality looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:45 PM
2

Maybe he was shorter, I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:28 PM
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Both of us do. And I have known women who have good co-parenting relationships with their exes, too. But if a man doesn’t do his job as a parent after he’s divorced, that’s not a woman’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:27 PM
12

Got some statistics that aren’t anecdotal to back up your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:26 PM
2

Guys like Daniel Craig, Henry Cavill, Cillian Murphy, Ryan Gosling?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:16 PM
16

Most of the women I know are married, and most of their husbands don’t have 6 feet, 6 figures, 6 pack
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:11 PM
9

I graduated from high school in 1994. One of the best looking guys in my graduating class was really short, like 5’6”. He was a wrestler who grew up to be a gym rat like so many short guys do. He never lacked for attention because he was good looking, and he was nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:07 PM
17

Most women literally don’t assume this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:05 PM
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It certainly isn’t true in my world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:47 PM
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I’m married to my husband and life is great. What am I supposed to take accountability for?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:47 PM
3

I basically married a guy who was the opposite of my dad. It was a good decision
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:41 PM
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If the situation is that a man walked away from his partner, or that a man refused to see his kids after his wife left him, whose fault is it? Or even better, whose fault was it that my dad emotionally and physically abused me growing up? Obviously not his, because men are perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:40 PM
3

I’m married to a short engineer with glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:36 PM
1

So maybe you are the best example of how the redpill is garbage. You did everything wrong according to them and you’re living your best life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:33 PM
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I mean, obviously it’s an infant’s fault if her dad bails on her mom. Or if her mom bails on her dad and her dad doesn’t want to see his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:29 PM
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When men leave their daughters and don’t want a relationship, whose fault is it? Is it the daughter’s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:46 PM
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So it’s the fault of women that husbands leave and don’t have relationships with their children and the fault of women that their dad left their mom and didn’t want a relationship with his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:07 PM
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Maybe men should be better dads
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:49 PM
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So women are Chad chasers if they go for attractive men and hypergamous if they go for guys who have a good job. The only acceptable option is to go for an ugly NEET, after which, when he treats you with the same antisocial attitude he brings to the world, you can accuse her of not choosing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:39 PM
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I don’t think you know very many people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:17 PM
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Divorce rates in are plummeting because marriage is becoming less common. In other words, people who shouldn’t be getting married aren’t getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:15 PM
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So you expected a very attractive woman and ignored ugly, weird women. But women who do the same according to their preferences are hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:14 PM
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Put down the phone and go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:13 PM
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When I was in my 20s, I dated guys my own age. We would see movies, go on walks, eat cheap food, etc. Most women don’t expect to be wined and dined in luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:12 PM
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I like Arthur Chu’s take on this. Basically that men are conditioned through media to believe they’re the main character. Being a decent human being entitles you to someone else’s attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:07 PM
2

The goal of the redpill is to trick women into letting you use them. It’s degenerate to its core. It’s also ego balm for young misogynists, telling them they can hate women and still fuck them if they wait long enough and buy enough premium content
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:18 PM
1

I consider all transactional relationships to be undignified but I don’t think all committed relationships are transactional. Now you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:10 PM
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I have succeeded where the leading luminaries of redpill have failed. You, too could succeed if you took my advice and not the advice of failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:39 PM
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Yeah but what do they talk about? I met my husband when I was 28 and he was 25. Incidentally, were you a virgin when you met your wife? Did you tell her that she was run through and used up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:38 PM
3

Paul Elam has been divorced twice. Kevin Samuels was divorced twice. Clearly they’re authorities on relationships, especially compared to me, because I stayed married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:25 PM
3

In what way are women hypocritical? I mean, in a way that men aren’t also hypocritical? Humans are pretty hypocritical in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:14 PM
0

Not rare at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:11 PM
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Two people living together in a committed relationship have like 1.5x the expenses and work. If both of them do their best to do chores, cooking (which saves $$$), etc. they can either live a really easy life together, or they can do more, whether that means having kids, going back to school, taking on more hours at work, etc. It’s like forming a very small corporation. If one person takes on a bunch of work and the other person stops doing household stuff, or if one person works and controls al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:09 PM
1

I certainly don’t think that my husband only stays with me because of sex. We actually like being together. Do you think commitment is undignified for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:56 PM
2

Why do you assume women are more shallow than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:39 PM
2

What else would you call a bunch of divorced men who tell other men how to get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:39 AM
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If most marriages are women faking orgasms, I feel sorry for them. I doubt that’s as universally true as you say, though. Could it be that the women you know aren’t the highest caliber women? Are they from a small town where it was expected that you just married the person you dated in high school? You know, the only marriage scenario that redpill condones?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:37 AM
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