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Nope. A lot more test, and fewer than 50% of them are negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:00 PM
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I was a SAHM for 6 years during the time that the kids were babies and my father in law was dying slowly from a degenerative disease. I was taking care of 2 little kids and a sick old man, and my husband was very grateful. We would have been paying more for childcare than I would have been bringing in. The guys who make these posts want to both claim that women who don’t stay home are unfeminine man haters, and women who do stay home are lazy freeloaders. The goal is to devalue women no matter w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:13 PM
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It doesn’t help. It costs a ton of money when very few (like 2-3%) of kids have suspect paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:41 PM
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It would be my tax dollars paying for this stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:32 PM
3

That would cost exorbitant amounts of money when most people don’t doubt their children’s paternity. Remember that fewer than half of the couples who seek paternity tests find that the person presumed to be the father is not the father. And those are people who are already doubting the child’s paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:15 PM
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My experience with men who don’t date and aren’t terrible people is that most of them are socially anxious. I have known lots of guys like this over the course of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:46 AM
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I think he’s amazing. He’s nice and kind and funny and smart. He’s a good dad. He’s good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:37 AM
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I don’t. I married a guy that redpillers call a beta simp. I still like trolling them though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:09 PM
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But this is redpill gospel
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:06 PM
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No, because the men leaving the west to find foreign wives aren’t smart men. Smart men find women at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:31 PM
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So you’re anti-redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:51 PM
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So it’s women’s fault if they lower their smv but also they obviously have no smv if they don’t have sex. Got it. The point is to devalue women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:49 PM
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Why should a woman have casual sex with a guy who might ghost her when it lowers her value as a human? You’re stumbling upon the dilemma of how women must be both virginal and always sexually available
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:41 PM
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So you want to have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:31 PM
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Disagree. I don’t want to have sex with guys who I have nothing in common with
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:41 PM
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Personally, it’s a turnoff to me when guys treat me like someone they want to have sex with before they even get to know me at all. A guy who talks to women like that is going to bail after he sleeps with you. Having an emotional connection is a turn on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:40 PM
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So bring back orphanages?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:21 PM
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Abortion rates go down in countries where children’s support is guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:21 PM
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Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were saying you didn’t want my life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:36 PM
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It doesn’t bother me if women want to be submissive, but most of us don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:34 PM
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Bitter men want women to be jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 09:33 PM
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You should feel free to pursue whatever makes you happy, but you shouldn’t criticize people for being happy doing different things
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:21 PM
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I’m really proud of my son. We’re out birdwatching today. When is the last time you spent time with your kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:34 PM
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Why? Beauty is always elusive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:32 PM
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I already told you that he’s not a misogynist, and you got super triggered about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:16 PM
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I don’t worry about my son attracting women. He’s not even tall, but the girls love him. Having long wavy hair and big blue-green eyes with long eyelashes works in his favor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:02 PM
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Do you think that as a bartender in a resort, you were dealing with a representative cross section? I don’t like bars and I don’t like vacationing at resorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:47 PM
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My son isn’t misogynistic. He’s an amazing kid, actually. I’m really proud of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:34 PM
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You seem very angry. You keep telling me to change, but I’m telling you that I have literally everything I want: a husband who respects me, beautiful kids who do well in school (my son is visiting colleges this summer), friends and hobbies and a connection to my community, and a career I love. I have a nice house, too, and not too much debt. Okay, yeah, I’m middle aged and not as cute and skinny as I was when I was 20, but why should I care? And moreover, why should I change myself when I have w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:33 PM
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My experience is that men who devalue women have worse lives, because women now have the option to choose better or not at all. Spousal violence is trending down. So if you don’t value women, women will do fine without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:10 PM
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Do you have a son? Are you married to his mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:08 PM
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I’m saying my life is better than yours, so maybe you should be taking advice instead of giving it. It seems like the only people you are willing to listen to are other single men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 01:06 PM
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I’m here to give advice to young men who are trying to rationalize their misogyny. Do you have everything you want in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:42 PM
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I never had one-night stands. I didn’t feel that way about my shorter relationships, which is part of the reason why they didn’t last. Do you assume I made my husband wait for sex? We were long distance at the beginning of our relationship, and as soon as we were in the same room again, we were all over each other
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:40 PM
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Reaped what? My life is just fine, and you’re here telling me how I should change myself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:38 PM
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It’s true, though. Ask men to make fun of women’s friendships, and they will model women sharing their feelings and building each other up like it’s weird. And for redpill types, it extends to romantic relationships. These men don’t want friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:10 AM
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I’ve been married for 19 years and have a life I really like. Good job, good marriage, money in order, kids in high school and getting ready for college, etc. My husband is my best friend and celebrates my accomplishments. I’m active in my religious community and have hobbies. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:40 PM
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It’s true, though. Do you have close friends that you can confide in?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:24 PM
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There is a toxic view among dysfunctional men that intimate friendships are feminine in nature
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:35 PM
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They Might Be Giants
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:40 PM
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What women? The ones you hear about on Tiktok? Has this ever happened to you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:16 PM
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A stranger asking me out for coffee without having a conversation with me would make me uncomfortable. The last time a guy hit on me in the grocery store, he was interested in the band t shirt I was wearing. He looked directly at my left hand, saw my ring, and backed off
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:46 PM
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Being hot and having fitness goals are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:28 PM
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A high quality man also values you for your human qualities and not just your looks. I am not as good looking as I was 20 years ago when I met him (and obviously he’s aged as well) but we’re still in love and enjoying each other’s company. I got a (second) degree during that time, too, and he’s proud of me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:31 PM
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I definitely agree with that, but I don’t think that’s actually possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:22 PM
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Being hot isn’t an accomplishment. It’s objectifying for someone to only have respect for what you look like and not your personality or accomplishments
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:12 PM
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Not if you find a quality man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:10 PM
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Pretty sure a person with a masters degree isn’t dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:09 PM
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Having a degree is an accomplishment. My husband respects my accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:07 PM
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It’s 40% and falling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:17 AM
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Which just means lots of people living together and having kids outside of marriage. People are going to couple up regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:17 AM
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It’s like you’re angry at the idea of women wanting their partners to have any merit at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:57 PM
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What exactly do I owe you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:36 PM
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Then find one who likes the things you like
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:27 PM
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My husband and I are nerds raising nerd kids. Recently we were away for the weekend visiting a college for my son. My husband took the kids to a record store while I was cooking dinner in the Airbnb. He came back with obscure ’90s alt country CDs. He knew the names of the artists, backup singers, and the studio musicians because he listens to my geeky ramblings about music, and he knew I would love them. That’s what I wanted in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:21 PM
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Some people might call themselves that, but those people are weird. I am more attracted to brains than looks. Call it what you want, but I have no use for unintelligent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:12 PM
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My husband is really smart
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:09 PM
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That’s not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:07 PM
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Yes. Most men are not intelligent enough for me to find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:53 PM
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Interesting, that’s not a lot, but obviously that trend will continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:41 PM
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As someone who actually understands math, let me explain this to you. There’s a lag time between falling birth rates and falling population, and that lag is equal to the length of an average human lifetime. China and Japan will experience population declines. China is expected to experience dramatic population decline in the 2040s. When the population declines, people might change their habits and start having more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:38 PM
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The redpill is a coping cult for angry misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:34 PM
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But why would you put yourself at risk like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:32 PM
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Japan and China haven’t had below-replacement fertility long enough to experience a drop in population
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:55 PM
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I don’t know. I am not living in their house all the time. They do a lot of stuff together
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:42 PM
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She’s a statistical outlier and doesn’t have any impact on the US population. The fertility rate has managed to drop even with a few people having very large families.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:17 PM
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He makes enough money to support them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:16 PM
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Nope. You don’t get to make those choices for women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:10 PM
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So you think you as a man have the right to dictate how many children women should have
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:58 PM
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She has a husband who works in computers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:57 PM
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You think it’s indecent for women to have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:15 PM
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I think that might be the case for a while, but the pendulum will swing back when population levels drop
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:14 PM
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Not no children. Plenty of people want children. Plenty of people would have more children if it were financially possible for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:04 PM
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So you’re not pro-choice. That’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:00 PM
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This is the incel power fantasy. You want to laugh at women and claim they’re devalued and unwanted. Women actually create content fakely claiming that nobody wants them to get engagement from guys like you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:41 PM
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Right. This is what I mean by the guys aren’t normal. They simultaneously cry that women claim there are no good men to have relationships with but also that they are all in relationships because it’s easy for them. Meanwhile they are also telling us how we need to change ourselves while our lives are great
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:30 PM
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Then why are the women usually in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:23 PM
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Oh, no, most of the women here are socially successful and don’t want to be mistreated by men. They also know that they aren’t obligated to be available to a man just because he has chosen them as an attractive object. That’s very normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:08 PM
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Yes, because most men on this sub are not normal and are not like most men in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:00 PM
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Then avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:53 PM
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No it definitely describes most men in this sub, but they don’t represent normal men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:52 PM
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She sounds batshit crazy. My husband of 19 years is a total sap who cries at movies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:45 PM
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Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support the aggressively childfree, either, and a lot of their stances are also misogynistic. I just think that people should be respected enough to make their own choices. And pro-choice means pro-ALL-choices. My close friend has 13 kids, and I have 2. Someone else might have zero. All choices are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:44 PM
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Because it’s the incel’s power fantasy. Women have two choices when forced to bear a hateful sociopath’s children: Be a slave to a man who won’t let you work and only allows you enough money for basic necessities for the household. In return, you are mentally/emotionally abused, cheated on, etc., and forced to take it because you can’t leave. Leave and receive no child support, be unable to both work and care for kids 100%, and die penniless in the streets with your starving children (because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:40 PM
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I get that you hope that’s you someday, but how are you going to afford the plane ticket as a NEET?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:26 PM
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But this post is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:25 PM
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OP is not buying hookers, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:25 PM
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Sex is better for men AND women without condoms, which is why most monogamous couples ditch them. It’s still not worth the risk of STDs. I get that you fantasize about leaving a sex worker in a poor country with a child as punishment for being a sex worker, but I also get that you will never do this in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:24 PM
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I can’t comprehend going to a sex worker and not using a condom
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:11 PM
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This is a power fantasy by OP where OP has low-consequence sex with a beautiful woman, walks away, and leaves her desperate and valueless to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:10 PM
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You’re allowed to not be physically attracted to someone. The question is why you think women are obligated to be sexually available to you because you want them? Nobody rejects actually nice guys for being nice. Most guys who claim to be rejected for being nice aren’t actually nice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:06 PM
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It’s definitely true, though, unless he’s an antisocial jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:06 PM
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I have never told a man this. Maybe I have told a 14-year-old boy that girls will appreciate him more when he’s in college
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:29 PM
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I have broken up with guys who weren’t nice to me. Is that enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:48 AM
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Of course not. Why would you even ask this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:33 AM
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Remember the askreddit threads about people who are always single. Most of them are about people who are uncomfortable to be around. None of them are because they’re short.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:18 PM
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It’s a power fantasy. Chad is the incel’s proxy abuser. They want to hear about these ruined women debasing themselves and begging for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 05:47 PM
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Cats are, too, but less needy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:12 AM
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Who tells them this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:11 AM
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Okay well, not all women in their 20s are looking to date old men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:27 PM
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Men and women are looking to settle down at around that age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:28 PM
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I prefer cats to dogs, myself. I also have children. The cats are easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:04 PM
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I find that people claiming to be redpill are just whiny misogynists who often contradict each other. There’s no consistent tenet to redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:32 PM
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Not really?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:19 PM
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Women don’t change what they want. The incel fantasy of women trying and failing to land a hot guy and settling for a loser later when they’re old and used up ju doesn’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:19 PM
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Women do work. I work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:20 PM
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My son, my male friends going back to childhood, most of my exes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:11 PM
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Ah, so maybe if you think all women are liars, then maybe you should work on your misogyny problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:11 PM
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Oh, but men that age are different?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:10 PM
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I’m married to a guy I love, so I think I probably don’t hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:06 PM
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So you assume women are duplicitous by nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:06 PM
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Then why would you assume that there aren’t women with similar experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:58 PM
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My husband resembles the guy I dated at 18-19 and lost my virginity to. That guy was also a nice guy but we weren’t compatible long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:57 PM
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Oh, do you have a history of casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:47 PM
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Interesting. Do women not have their shit together more in their late 20s-30s? Do they not have more sexual experience and knowledge of to please men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:39 PM
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Okay why should women want older men? They’re less fit and have more trauma. My husband is younger than I am
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:23 PM
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Why would I want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:18 PM
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So it’s bad when women don’t want kids but you don’t want kids either?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:17 PM
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I’m not seeing that at all. I’m seeing women choosing their own path and men hoping the universe takes revenge on them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:16 PM
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Never had that problem myself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:11 PM
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But men that age don’t have trauma? So women should want older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:10 PM
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This is definitely true. I met my husband when I was 28. He resembles the guy I lost my virginity to at 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:04 PM
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Why do you assume women have zero trauma in their early 20s? Why do you assume men have no trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:03 PM
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Why do you guys assume that we never meet new people after we graduate high school? I didn’t even meet my husband until I was 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:02 PM
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So you think women should want kids? Do you want to change diapers and cook dinner every night?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:52 PM
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I have two kids with a nice guy whom I’ve been married to for 19 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:51 PM
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Interesting. I have a beat up purse from job lot. My shoes are Skechers and while I have backpacked in Europe and taught in China, I have never been to Dubai. I really think you need to put your iPad down and go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:50 PM
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Ohhh…you think all women are stupid compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:45 PM
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My husband is 5’7”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:34 PM
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My husband is a good dad. He also helps with housework and doesn’t mind that I was post wall with a body count above 3 when he met me. Marry beta simps, ladies. They make better husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:34 PM
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So women are bad for having kids and also for not wanting to have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:32 PM
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Poor women are having a lot fewer kids because Obamacare requires insurance to cover birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:31 PM
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I was told it’s beta for men to contribute to household labor. Why should women do it if you don’t want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:30 PM
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Pets are much less work than kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:27 PM
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Yes, but that’s not what they advocate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:57 PM
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Yes, they advocate for getting with girls 16-17
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:33 PM
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Redpill/manosphere doesn’t actually want traditional women. They consider it beta to commit to an aging woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:26 PM
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It’s a strawman. I never suggested that 25 year olds are children. The real question is why you assume that the day that a woman turns 26, she loses her fertility?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:23 PM
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So you’re divorced? Are there any redpill guys who are still married to their first wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:21 PM
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This was never the issue. I was talking about men who advocate dating teenagers. Moreover, redpill explicitly states that women have no value after age 25, and any man who begins a relationship with a woman older than 25 is less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:15 PM
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It’s notable that men get less attractive as they age as well, but women are conditioned to accept that. And lots of redpill content creators advocate getting with teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:11 PM
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Wow. Temper temper. Why are men so angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:04 PM
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You were the one who brought up the wall, as though it’s actually related to fertility and not just a justification for the fact that the manosphere is full of guys who want to have sex with people who are legally children
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:03 PM
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Redpill is extremely fluid, apparently. Almost like it means nothing and just exists as a way to sell premium content to men who feel powerless
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:56 PM
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I had both of my kids in my 30s, and I had no trouble getting pregnant. At what age do you think it’s useless for a woman to have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:55 PM
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And if they have children? Who pays for childcare? And if it turns out that the family actually saves money if one spouse stays home for a few years, does that mean that spouse gets less in a divorce settlement? I assume you believe that women should have custody of their children and finance their children’s needs 100% in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:40 PM
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Don’t Rohypnol and GHB go out of the system relatively quickly? By the time someone comes to and makes it to a hospital, they are gone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:11 PM
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Apparently that means women should make men’s lives better and expect nothing in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:31 AM
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Somehow I doubt that. He actually enjoys when his partner has a good time in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:27 PM
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I’m sure he displays his misogyny in multiple ways
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:12 PM
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I’m saying this guy clearly hates women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:25 PM
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This might be why women reject you, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:06 PM
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Just say you think women don’t deserve to have orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:40 PM
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Massive generalizations about women are generally misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:38 PM
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You think all women are just interested in men’s money? Maybe you’re a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:45 PM
0

And I’m saying that women don’t want guys who are not interested in emotional connection, especially when these same guys are quick to point out that women’s value diminishes when they sleep with men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:49 PM
10

Nope. If you think dick size is what makes a woman orgasm, then your foreplay game is weak. People complain that guys don’t want to do the things that will make women orgasm, and guys complain that they should have to care about women’s orgasms at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:27 PM
1

Then you’re probably not a nice person
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:23 PM
8

I think women should reject situationships if they find them unfulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:56 PM
10

When you say things like this, it just reinforces to me that you spend a lot of time consuming toxic online content and not enough time interacting with real humans
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:25 PM
1

Nobody is going to want a guy whose only requirement is “willing to talk to me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:19 AM
1

You should leave your house and touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:18 AM
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It’s a bad faith argument from men who want to use women’s bodies for sex and not give them anything emotional. The assumption is that men want sex and women want relationships, and men and women will never want the same thing. I have also never seen women act entitled to relationships, but I have seen alpha males argue that the government should give them a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:17 AM
10

Men were cheating on their wives with prostitutes or unmarried women who were considered unmarriageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:18 AM
1

Dating coaching is a scam. People should go to real therapists. Redpill coaches don’t even want you to succeed. They tell you what you want to hear so you keep buying content.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:17 AM
1

Got it. Well, obviously you win, and you can be happy about that. You certainly don’t need to take advice from anyone because you’ve got it all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:13 AM
1

If you think that all women are unintelligent, you might be a misogynist. I don’t know what bloopers means in incel speak
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:07 AM
0

Obviously if you don’t have a relationship in high school you can’t have one later?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:06 AM
-4

I mean, just interact with people. My husband is a nerdy guy. I’m a nerdy girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:42 AM
21

I think your grasp of history is lacking. Marital fidelity was the professed ideal, but few actually practiced it, especially men. People are more faithful and honest now precisely because they don’t demand lifelong monogamy with the first person you sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:15 AM
-1

My husband was photographing buses on the day he got on the city bus I was riding. Having hobbies works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:02 AM
-2

Sounds rough for you. Meanwhile, my husband is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:28 PM
3

Choosing not to date you because they don’t find you attractive is not what objectification means. Objectification means not recognizing someone else’s autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:27 PM
-8

I don’t know very many women in their 30s who want to be married and aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:53 PM
2

But that’s not what you said. There’s a huge difference between using someone for purely utilitarian purposes vs. saying that you don’t want to be with a person who doesn’t make your life better. Even good companionship is better than being alone. So is good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:40 PM
4

Or maybe women are right to reject the men they reject
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:35 PM
1

Has it happened to someone you know personally, or have you just read about it online?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:34 PM
3

Aw, someone’s a victim because women chose better
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:07 PM
4

I’m actually married to a man. I found one of the good ones. Meanwhile you sit here hating all women and hoping we get mauled by bears and you wonder why we’re scared of you. Domestic partner violence is trending down as women choose better men. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/explaining-decline-intimate-partner-homicide-effects-changing#:~:text=This%20article%20explains%20the%20two,of%20women%3B%20and%20increases%20in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:01 PM
3

And that’s trending in what direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:55 PM
7

You’re not a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:54 PM
7

Because their standards start with looks and they want to portray themselves as innocent victims
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:54 PM
2

Keep telling those married women how you’re looksmaxxing to get your virgin tradwife
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:52 PM
7

And yet now that women are moving away from these guys, they’re portrayed as innocent victims of women’s superficial rejection. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/explaining-decline-intimate-partner-homicide-effects-changing#:~:text=This%20article%20explains%20the%20two,of%20women%3B%20and%20increases%20in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:49 PM
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Literally not a thing that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:34 PM
4

You suggested that women are wrong for wanting to be with a partner who improves their lives in some way. I assume you also blame women who are with bad men for not choosing better?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:29 PM
3

No it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:19 PM
0

I married an introverted short guy. Alpha males online tell me he’s a beta simp because he does the laundry
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:19 PM
8

I’m Jewish. Stop pretending you’re a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:16 PM
8

Do you think the proper role of a partner is to provide no benefit? It’s not objectifying to say that the bare minimum to having a partner should be that in general, that person should make your life better than it is when you don’t have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:57 PM
4

But suddenly when women choose to reject being with substandard men, which drives domestic violence rates down, men cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:49 PM
6

That’s interesting. I love my husband, and he’s short. Somehow I don’t think that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:48 PM
3

I don’t usually fear roving gangs, but when I do, they’re gangs of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:47 PM
4

Women also pay taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:36 PM
6

Why would women want someone who doesn’t benefit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:35 PM
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Incels kill women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:34 PM
7

Have you ever described a woman as a landwhale or a ham beast? Or referred to a woman widely regarded for her beauty as “mid?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:34 PM
3

Or because you don’t try. If you never socialize, you will never meet anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:32 PM
0

It’s notable that in the early ‘90s, all of these gloom and doom articles came out about how women were going to die alone if they got careers and didn’t get married before they turned 30. Exactly zero of these articles blamed men for not stepping in and sweeping these career gals off their feet. Women’s loneliness was their own responsibility. Much the same way that women are taught to suck it up or change themselves if men don’t like them. Now that it’s men, so addicted to porn and video games…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:31 PM
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As a middle aged person, I think we over-romanticize youth. We have this belief that we should be our most happy when we’re at our most beautiful, because it’s all downhill from there. I struggled a lot in my 20s. Things were really hard in my launch to adulthood. I have taken a very different path as a person who grew up awkward and nerdy with parents who were disappointed in me because of it. I look at happy people, and I take advice from and emulate them. My parents are/were not happy. My hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:22 PM
2

No. I don’t recommend marrying your first anything, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:15 PM
1

Exactly. The real problem is when they don’t test kits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:13 PM
13

What does this have to do with redpill? I know you guys are obsessed with discrediting rape accusations, but the only people who made accusations here were the police. We should generally get rape kits tested for DNA. That will greatly cut down on false imprisonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:58 AM
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I don’t think anyone is in favor of people being accused falsely of crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:40 AM
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That’s very different from false accusations
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:39 AM
24

Patricia Meili was beaten within an inch of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:14 AM
3

I didn’t meet my husband until I was 28 and he was 25. We’ve been together for 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:29 AM
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Patricia Meili , the Central Park rape victim, has no memory of the incident and did not make any accusations. I don’t think we can call her a false accuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:25 AM
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Because you have had enough time to get to know yourself and understand why your early relationships failed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:54 PM
2

It wouldn’t bother me at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:55 PM
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She sounds like a dipshit, but I don’t think you can hold all women responsible or assume all people think women are entitled to your attention just because she does
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:57 PM
2

If I didn’t like sex, I wouldn’t have sex, and I do have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:54 PM
2

I think a lot of this has to do with homophobia, toxic masculinity, and patriarchy. Men are afraid of seeming to be too close and too supportive to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:35 PM
2

Go ahead and don’t date them. I wouldn’t want to date an extremely promiscuous guy. But usually redpill is just an excuse to hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:39 AM
3

Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:35 AM
2

Because you can’t just not maintain your home. You can still be in a loving relationship if you and your partner fall asleep groping each other because exhaustion won out over libido. (Yes, my husband and I have done this)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:24 AM
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I’m not associating anyone with anything. I’m just saying if you’re trying to prove expertise on relationships and feminism when you aren’t in a relationship and totally misunderstand feminism, it doesn’t impress me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:22 AM
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That’s not what objectification means. It’s funny how you think you’re winning this argument, but it’s totally obvious that you don’t have any real life success to give ethos to what you’re claiming
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:48 AM
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I mean, I don’t think redpill is a coherent philosophy. I think it’s just a bunch of angry misogynists trying to rationalize their hatred of women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:10 PM
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My experience is that women can be very accepting. However, a woman is not obligated to like a man just because he thinks she should
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:09 PM
-1

Why would you assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:52 PM
1

Okay. How has all of this moral integrity worked out for you? Just curious. Have you successfully condescended women into sleeping with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:24 PM
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Women aren’t really upset. Redpill is just a bunch of angry incels wishing women cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:23 PM
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Because wanting to use someone’s body with no emotional intimacy is weird. I don’t think women are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:22 PM
2

I mean, not at this very moment. We’ve been together for 20 years and still have sex regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:19 PM
1

Nothing you said makes sense. At least you admit you’re contradicting yourself and the goal is to devalue women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:57 PM
1

So you literally think that women are devalued for having sex. But also that you shouldn’t have a relationship with a woman who is not immediately and constantly sexually available
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:07 PM
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But redpill men tell me that marriage is beta. Both men and women are more likely to cheat if they have more partners, but somehow women are the ones who get blamed when men are cheered for having more partners
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:20 PM
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Does women’s sexual market value diminish with more partners? Do you think the only reason for emotional intimacy is ego stroking? You think women want to be objectified?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:42 PM
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I’m saying your weird cult is just ego balm because misogyny hasn’t gotten you a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:13 PM
8

My children live with me. I am successful in that I have a loving marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:09 PM
2

Nobody really identifies as a blue piller. I only have it as my flair because new Reddit only offered a few choices. I’m married and in love with my husband. Has your non-hating lifestyle gotten you a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:07 PM
3

Right. Marriage is a liberal value
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:03 PM
7

No, blue pill isn’t even a thing. It’s something defined by redpill as “not us,” but really it’s just normal people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:02 PM
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Blue pill isn’t even a thing. It’s just people who aren’t in the redpill cult. Your comments that you’re in a bad marriage because you failed to use birth control correctly aren’t an endorsement of natalism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:35 AM
8

I think redpill is a cult. I have two teenage kids
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:11 AM
9

Oh, so you’re failing but giving advice to successful people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:05 AM
5

I’m married and you’re in a cult. There’s no middle ground between normal and cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:05 AM
9

I’m married. My relationship is awesome. Has your strategy worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:27 AM
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But birdwatching is such a social hobby. I have met so many people through it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:35 AM
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Part of personality is what people do for fun
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:31 AM
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Your belief that birdwatchers just sit on their porches is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:31 AM
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You think that people being interested in doing things is inherently materialistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:08 AM
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I usually go hiking to watch birds. Sometimes I do it while kayaking. I have met lots of people while hiking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:05 AM
4

They’re among the most common hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:38 AM
30

Seriously. Exhaustion is most of the reason why loving couples aren’t banging each other all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:32 AM
24

This is one of my favorite redpill arguments: first say that women have no value when they have casual sex. Then make the incorrect assertion that nobody in relationships has sex. Then argue that there’s no point in being in relationships if women won’t put out, so it’s better to seek casual sex. The point is to look for an excuse to devalue women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:27 AM
1

Why would women want casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:57 AM
1

I’m married
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:57 AM
1

To be fair, the guys who say this aren’t normal. They’re redpill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:54 AM
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I have been told often that women have no hobbies. When I list my hobbies (crafting, birdwatching, singing), the men on this sub tell me they’re boring. My husband doesn’t find them boring, but he’s a beta simp, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:47 AM
1

Right. It’s female values to grow old with someone you love. Alpha males hate marriage and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:58 PM
1

I’m not a fed, but I do have a teenage daughter. So you basically think that any woman you date who’s age appropriate will be less lovable to you as soon as you start dating her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:23 PM
1

So what do you consider women’s prime, and how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:59 PM
1

I am active on multiple of these groups and I never see it. I have heard women complain that men will approach them just to hurl abuse at them over their weight, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:20 PM
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I hear men whining on this board
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:27 PM
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You hear them where? In your tiktok algorithm that’s full of people giving you content you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:01 PM
1

Honestly, I don’t need to convince you of anything. I have a husband, and you’re looking for ego balm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:04 PM
0

What are the negative consequences of refusing to accede to the attention demands of strangers? Doesn’t it lower a woman’s sexual market value to give attention to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:35 PM
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There are no negative consequences to refusing to acknowledge strangers who demand your time. It’s a false argument to equate this with misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:05 PM
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I’m not projecting anything. It’s been a convention of polite society that women were never obligated to answer men who addressed them in public. Why do you want to break from tradition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:40 PM
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So women having autonomy over their own bodies is oppressing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:33 PM
4

It’s not misandry to refuse to give attention to strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:41 AM
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The difference is that for some individual women, maintaining that BMI is extremely difficult without engaging in unhealthy behaviors. And I hear lots of men whining about women excluding men for their height, but I don’t actually see it in real life. My husband is short, and I dated guys who were taller whom I wasn’t interested in staying with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:52 AM
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So…this is why you think women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, inherit, or attend university?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:47 AM
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So you feel victimized because women have agency to reject the attention of strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:43 PM
1

You shouldn’t be seeking dating gurus. Just talk to people in happy, healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:42 PM
2

I think you don’t understand what the word projection means
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:25 PM
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I would have been okay with them talking to me, too. They were definitely not Chads, either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:16 PM
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All women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:04 PM
3

I literally just struck up a conversation with two men at the next table in the cafe where I was having breakfast. They were in town for a convention for tabletop gaming for a particular war game. They were going to be gaming together and touring military sites in the area. We talked about our hobbies. I mentioned my husband. The younger f the two talked about his wife and daughter. It was very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:03 PM
12

If you refer to a woman as a swamp beast when she weighs 146 pounds at 5’4”, this might be why you have trouble dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:09 PM
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19-21? The bar for overweight is 25. Why do you want women who are just barely not starving? Also, life expectancies of people who have a bmi slightly over 25 are longer. So what do you mean by healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:04 PM
6

Then what does it mean? Use your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:38 PM
6

Submissive means she goes along with what someone else wants and doesn’t get to have agency in her own life. Who would want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:00 PM
1

That’s misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:37 AM
3

If you think most women watch 90 day fiancé, then I question the quality of women you associate with. I don’t watch that show, and I don’t think anyone I know does either. I recently hung out with a friend from high school who was passing through my area on vacation. We started talking about tv we like, and we were both really into severance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:56 PM
1

Nirvana fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:36 PM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:26 AM
1

Wrong. All humans have inherent value. Put down the premium podcast content written by guys whose wives left them because they were emotionally abusive. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:25 AM
1

It’s problematic cult behavior. They’re all giving advice when they should be taking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:01 AM
7

Men are not at fault for when men financially abuse women and patriarchal society enabled it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:43 AM
2

Who’s “they?”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:41 AM
9

I mean, it makes no sense to people who actually touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:00 AM
6

OP, are you in a relationship? Why do you think you’re qualified to give dating coach advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:58 AM
2

I’m glad. You’re unlike most men on this sub in that respect
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:46 PM
6

The USA did not knowingly draft 14-year-olds into the Vietnam war
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:13 PM
1

Yes, that makes sense that women prefer men with more money vs less money, etc. You tell us to choose better and then get mad that we do. This doesn’t mean that women rule out all but the most elite men. And if they do, why does it bother you? That’s their problem to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:10 PM
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Feeling sad isn’t the same as taking responsibility. I would try to break them out of that way of thinking, but I wouldn’t blame myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:50 PM
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I mean, Aristotelian logic dictates that even if you prove that a thing happens sometimes, that doesn’t prove it happens all the time. And I honestly doubt you have ever personally met anyone who thinks this way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:05 PM
6

Oh, I thought the third 6 was 6 pack. I have never measured my husband’s dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:00 PM
6

That’s not 6-6-6. That’s just one 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:46 PM
5

Nah, I think your personality is the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:32 PM
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Laughs in nobody has been conscripted into the service in the USA for more than 50 years. Get real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:31 PM
6

I assume you made up these women or believed bullshit you saw from a tiktok content creator, but if you didn’t and they are real women that you know, they suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:30 PM
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You need better friends if you know multiple women who have told you in so many words that they refuse to date anyone who doesn’t have a 6 pack, make 6 figures, and is over 6 feet tall
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:26 PM
2

It’s very likely not true, but it’s still funny
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:20 PM
7

My husband was 0 for 3 when I met him. After working in his field for more than 20 years, he’s now 1 for 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:19 PM
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See, I solved the problem by marrying a beta simp. I had 2 kids and stayed home for 6 years when they were little, and he STILL never questions what I spend money on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:17 PM
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Exactly, don’t you wish you had to beg for grocery money and only got paid in free room and board?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:16 PM
11

All the women that redpill influencers either made up or artificially amplified
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:13 PM
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We could help you. Your life would be better if you listened to us. You have decided that you won’t listen because you have gone all in on the misogynistic death cult. We have no choice but to walk away, because We can’t take responsibility for a situation that we didn’t cause when you refuse to let us be part of the conversation. That’s the opposite of word salad. It’s an extremely logical conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:11 PM
1

How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:48 PM
1

You find a way to make yourself a victim somehow don’t you. My son is short. Women still like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:34 PM
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Literally something that redpill influencers made up and not something that women actually do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:32 PM
12

When you guys commit to a death cult and tell us that we are incapable of giving men advice, we have no choice but to walk away from the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:31 PM
6

Do you think women will fare worse for having more control over their own lives? I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:29 PM
1

But you haven’t once compared women to something positive or neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:43 PM
4

Going on a date with someone isn’t committment. Talking to someone isn’t commitment. There’s nothing wrong with not putting your eggs in one basket before you even meet the person face to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:20 PM
1

You compared women to rattlesnakes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:17 PM
26

Or maybe we’re just emotionally mature enough to realize that a guy doesn’t owe us anything after one date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:36 PM
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I would assume he was talking to a few women and decided to become exclusive with one who wasn’t me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:29 PM
5

I suppose being a married person with a husband I love, a career I love, a couple of awesome teenagers, and a nice house is being a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:16 PM
5

Oh, that’s nice. But women are obviously the problem and you’re not a misogynist at all. I call my husband beta because I don’t believe beta exists, but when guys in the manosphere cult describe a guy as beta, they make him sound like a catch. Betas are nice guys with good personalities and good jobs. They’re generous and helpful. They take on adult responsibilities like housework and kids. And they will make you cum like it’s their goddamn religion. I mean, sign me up. (And yes, these are all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:09 PM
2

So men want to cheat more but women get more invitations, so this makes women bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:02 PM
1

Vegan chocolates exist. If you’re constantly using dangerous, deadly, and negative comparators in your metaphors about women (except when you’re using immature, stupid, or inanimate/utilitarian comparators) then people might think you hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:01 PM
14

Sorry, I would answer, but I’m a run through, used up, low SMV post-Waller who went through epiphany phase and married a simp for beta provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:38 PM
1

So do you think women are past their prime in their mid 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:12 PM
6

I know, alpha males hate when women love men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:11 PM
2

I’m saying if you are suggesting that all women are horrible and literally comparing them to rattlesnakes, maybe it’s you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:10 PM
2

If you assume women are all reductive, all venal, and all incapable of love, this is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:49 PM
1

Everyone has inherent value
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:36 AM
1

This is an incel trope
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:36 AM
17

I’m doing fine. I married a beta simp. I know he’s a beta simp because he makes money, helps with housework, and makes me cum
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:14 PM
16

I have been told that women demanding orgasms is unfeminine
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:07 PM
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I did say most, not all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:29 PM
2

The first scenario resembles my life before I met my husband. I had a few relationships that lasted more than a year each, plus several shorter relationships. I was 28 when I met him and we have been together for 20 years. We’re monogamous and faithful. The second scenario represents a person experimenting with a lifestyle and deciding it’s not for them. I don’t think that a long-past party phase is going to come back. On the contrary, I think that it no longer holds any mystery and therefore is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:13 PM
5

Define HOE phase. Are you talking a girl who had 10 partners over 10 years? Are you talking about a woman who tried sleeping around for a couple of years just to see what it was like and gave it up several years ago? Or are you talking about a woman who has had a sustained reputation for years as a party girl who jumps from guy to guy? Because I have heard of all of these described as run through, used up, unable to pair bond, etc., and I see them as very different
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:15 PM
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I know one person whom I think has the same level of curiosity as a college-educated person. He had some community college but dropped out due to addiction issues. I love him like a brother, but if I were single, I still wouldn’t date him for the reason that he’s pretty messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:44 AM
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As an educated woman, I find that most men who are not educated are generally less interesting to be around. They don’t learn things for fun and they don’t read books. I don’t want to hang out with people whose ideas of hobbies are playing video games and smoking weed. It’s not a security thing. We just have nothing to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:25 AM
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You are also here I am on summer break. I ran errands, cooked Sabbath meals, and talked to a plumber and a contractor about renovations on the house we moved out of. I’m not unhappy with the way I spent my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:45 PM
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I mean, I’m married to a guy I love. What do you mean by traditional values?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:52 PM
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What do you find more traditional about Asian and Latina women in foreign countries as compared to the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:41 PM
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You think getting out of a bad marriage is easy with no support system? If he controls all the money? Also, the mediocre American guy probably has a higher standard of living than the comparable Filipino guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:57 PM
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I do think it’s a valid reason to want to get to know someone, but I think it’s not a great strategy to just walk up to someone out living their life and ask them out. If you have occasion to actually talk, and you get along, that’s something else entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:27 PM
2

Again, you are clearly the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:18 PM
1

Okay. Well, the good news is, you have single podcast bros to listen to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:05 PM
3

I think that maybe you’re making assumptions that women are less intelligent and substantive than men. Do you think this could be affecting your dating life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:04 PM
1

Again, I’m married to a really great guy, and you’re not married. I’m not the one with the hate problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:54 PM
3

Interesting. I birdwatch, and many of my co-hobbyists are women. I wonder if women have fewer hobbies because they spend more time on housework and childcare than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:53 PM
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A lot of people want to be passport bros because they want women to be angry about it. Most of them never pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:48 PM
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Also, a lot of them come from cultures where divorce is stigmatized, so they assume that they must be bad people if they can’t make it work. Also, their parents are going to be really unhappy if they screw it up with the rich foreign guy, because what else are they going to brag to their neighbors about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:47 PM
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If you rule out all the women in a country of over 300 million people, maybe it’s not everyone else who’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:44 PM
1

Okay. Just remember when she turns you down, it’s because she didn’t want to be bothered and you decided she owed you something because you thought she was hot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:37 PM
-1

Women also mountain bike
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:29 PM
-5

I posted a long list of activities that men can engage in that will help them meet people. If you blame women for all your problems, it’s unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:49 PM
-1

Okay, but all of that is looks. Also, you can do everything including heavy research while staring at your phone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:48 PM
1

Do you think women are less valuable after having sex with attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:47 PM
1

I am on TwoX and I see a lot of women supporting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:02 PM
1

Nope. That’s a misrepresentation of why people hate incels, and frankly I think it’s bad faith. You know that’s not what we mean
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:01 PM
-3

You seem angry that women get to choose whom they’re attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:00 PM
-1

What can you discern from her vibe before you speak to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:57 PM
1

Incels are hateful to women. Merely being single isn’t the issue. Meanwhile there’s this: https://preview.redd.it/8yntdbj37agd1.jpeg?width=652&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=376dd42502caf9bc93ca09d5a182367e3bc21322
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:56 PM
1

Really? Got examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:50 PM
0

What do you find interesting about a woman that you haven’t even spoken to yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:50 PM
1

Oh, I’m not mad. I’m fascinated by how you keep committing yourself to something that doesn’t work, but my life is great
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:49 PM
1

Men are constantly making memes about women laughing in their faces and then crawling back later
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:48 PM
1

I have never suggested that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:47 PM
1

Just quoting the gospel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:47 PM
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You have all evening. Why not go out with coworkers? Why not join a discord server and play D&D? Why not find a hobby that attracts locals? When I met my husband, he was 25 and hanging out with guys who restored old trolley cars at a museum. I am active in the local birdwatching community. We have a pinball museum in town that is always looking for people to help fix machines. You could join a softball league or a bowling league. There are soccer clubs for adults that play weekend games. There a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:44 PM
-1

It’s not inaccurate unless you have your head in the sand. Women’s idea of revenge fantasy is cats and wine. Pretty tame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:40 PM
1

Recognizing that a lot of manosphere content is revenge fantasy is not misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:33 PM
2

Oh, I have been told that the female orgasm is a myth or is unnecessary, or if women don’t automatically cum from penetrative sex that they weren’t really turned on and they always cum for Chad and he makes minimal effort. Or else Chad doesn’t care if women cum and that’s aspirational. But men should definitely not go down on women because it’s degrading but women should definitely want to go down on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:31 PM
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Oh, I’m not misandrist. My husband is my favorite person. I just think that game theory for relationships is stupid, and redpill is a morass of misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:20 PM
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I will say that as a woman, a man deciding I am an attractive object and should therefore be with him is not a turn on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:18 PM
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I have seen some people do it in good faith. But they weren’t looking for submissive tradwives, either. A childhood friend of my husband’s met a woman from the Philippines online. She may or may not have misrepresented her location in order to meet American guys, but she was the whole package. She had a degree and a good job, she was Catholic (so was he), and she was smart, funny, and pretty. She really tried to make it work. They were married for like 10 years when she divorced him, but he’s an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:14 PM
-2

Oh, have you ever had a girlfriend? Maybe you should take more advice from successful people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:10 PM
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Oh, so you’re a beta
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:08 PM
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Because women are taught to have social skills that men dismiss as homo and beta. Not women’s fault that you guys can’t build social networks like men used to. Think I’m wrong? Go into any Dunkin or McDonald’s on a weekday morning and observe the group of old guys drinking coffee and socializing together. Go to any large urban park on a weekday morning and watch the old guys playing chess and bocce or doing tai chi together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:08 PM
-4

Blue pill just means not being in the weird redpill cult. At least 99% of people have never heard of redpill and/or laugh at it because it’s stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:05 PM
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It’s a foundational redpill tenet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:04 PM
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It’s not in bad faith. You’ve almost let the mask slip that this is a bunch of guys using various rationalization techniques to justify hating women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:00 PM
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All women are the same, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:59 PM
-1

AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:58 PM
-1

Not all men. Redpill guys aren’t representative of normal men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:56 PM
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Rectally-sourced statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:54 PM
-5

I moved to a whole different city after I graduated and managed to build a social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:59 PM
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My husband is a non-neurotypical introvert, and he had a social circle when I met him
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:52 PM
1

I’ve been married for 19 years. Have you got your tradwife yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:51 PM
1

Many men think women are just satellites orbiting themselves as main character
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:50 PM
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It’s not but don’t say I didn’t warn you. Most people who threaten passport bro-ing are just trying to scare women, because they can’t afford to be one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:42 PM
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Are you saying redpill isn’t a coherent philosophy and is just a bunch of goalpost moving ego balm for guys who want to hate women and can’t figure out how to do that and still get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:25 PM
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Oh, you like the idea of alpha Chad as proxy abuser fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:23 PM
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People who see women as human are better at accepting rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:22 PM
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I’m just making fun of redpill rhetoric. The idea of betabuxx is so stupid. It’s only a thing because the young men who aspire to being alpha males aren’t smart enough to go to college and major in finance. And they just can’t wrap their heads around the idea that a bunch of educated nerds will have much more impact on the world than they will
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:20 PM
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It’s not the solution you think it is. You’re not going to go abroad and find a woman who has no interests other than serving you, is going to be a virgin, is going to be willing to work to contribute to the family’s support, and is going to stay with you after she gets her green card. There’s nothing in that for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:18 PM
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Modern child support was not invented by feminists and wouldn’t exist if men had a habit of supporting their children
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:05 PM
1

Men think that they can approach women and that women will just fall in line
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:04 PM
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A lot of them cry on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:03 PM
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But paying to contribute to family expenses is betabuxx. Everyone knows alphas don’t get married and just pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:03 PM
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Do you assume that all people who fail to pay child support have unstable incomes? Because you would be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:01 PM
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You can’t affect my reality by believing or not believing in it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:30 PM
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Oh, right. It’s very alpha to hoard your money and not use any of it to, say, build a family or support kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:29 PM
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I’m saying if women are saying that men are not making their lives better, then men should listen. I have a husband, and we work to make each other’s lives better. A lot of women say that men aren’t doing their part. They want women who will cook and clean AND pay half the bills and not treat them well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:26 PM
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If you realized that women are just as fully actualized humans, and they aren’t bad people if you approach them and they aren’t interested
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:24 PM
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My husband and I actually like each other’s personalities. I get that people need to have personalities to understand this concept…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:21 PM
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I’m talking about women who have children and leave relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:19 PM
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I mean, from what I hear, most passport bros don’t end up with what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:18 PM
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Why shouldn’t both parents contribute to a child’s wellbeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:15 AM
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I teach. It’s like being a star on stage and a superhero. My husband plans traffic. His job saves lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:48 AM
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Right? They could help with housework more, but they would rather do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:22 AM
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Why shouldn’t fathers pay for their own children? Mothers already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:10 AM
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Define “everyone.” Because if everyone does not reproduce, nobody will reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:08 AM
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Good faith answer, no sarcasm: Women are fully actualized humans. They can derive fulfillment from all sorts of things, just like men. Average women may meet average men and live happily ever after. Also, the concept of SMV is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:58 AM
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Sigh. I’ll type slower. If nobody bought an expensive car, the world would suffer no ill effects
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:51 AM
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I have never known a woman who thought that it was unfair that she should contribute to the physical and financial well-being of a child she birthed. You just want women to suffer when they get divorced. Your ideal scenario is that a woman who leaves a marriage should suffer and die in the streets with her children Also, I support government programs to help poor children
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:49 AM
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I am probably about the same age as you, and I still get attention
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:37 AM
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Feminism is making alimony less common. Yay feminism! If you don’t want to support children, have a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:35 AM
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Oh, they have no value and therefore are left to cats, wine, and careers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:31 AM
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Normal people’s do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:24 AM
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Of course. Alphas don’t have money. That’s a beta trait
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:22 AM
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This is such a sad way to look at love
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:21 AM
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Of course, because a woman’s greatest goal is to attract male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:20 AM
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That’s not exactly what objectification means. Objectification is not seeing the other person as fully human. You are the subject who does things. They are the object that has things done to them. I also seriously wonder if you have ever liked just keeping company with another person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:17 PM
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There are certain guys who are actually cruel and sadistic and try to “deflower” a woman because they get a kick out of the idea of (in their minds) ruining her and discarding her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:56 PM
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So you think that wanting to get with a guy with the ambition of building a life and family together is objectifying? How? Most women don’t assume that the guy they get with is going to provide all the financial support, so I’m not going to pretend that this is what OP wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:54 PM
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Manosphere meme depicting female sexual satisfaction <image> as ugly and unfeminine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:14 PM
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RWers tell me that whatever women do is easy. We’re playing life on easy mode. We wait at the finish line and get the prize. We just have to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:02 PM
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If women tell you their lives are peaceful, why do you disbelieve them? Has your tactic of insulting women until they date you worked?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:16 PM
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My husband is never unhelpful. I’m just going by the criteria of alpha males online. You are stuck with an aging post-waller
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:49 PM
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Ah, so you’re a beta simp
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:44 PM
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I’ve been happily married for 19 years. Redpill men call him a beta cuck simp because he does housework and makes sure I have orgasms. Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:34 PM
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I think women being happy single comes from the fact that they no longer need men, and men are unkind and unhelpful enough to keep them from wanting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:42 PM
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The idea that women don’t form strong friendships. You don’t see it in television, because female characters written by men are not well developed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:55 PM
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Not redpilled men. They say it’s beta simping to make women cum and women demanding orgasms is unfeminine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:08 PM
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He’s not going to answer that question. He’ll tell you it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:02 PM
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It’s what she said. It might not have been what she meant, but her lack of communication skills are not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:00 PM
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Straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:59 AM
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This logic, that mothers deserve no credit and have no right to say their work is hard, somehow doesn’t apply to any other pursuit. People who go to university or to work are allowed to say it’s difficult and be proud of their accomplishments, but mothers are not. Fathers are lauded, of course, even though they usually do less. I have kids, and I have a career. My career involved passing classes in quantum physics. My work is easier than parenting is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:58 AM
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Nothing unless you think you are entitled to an individual’s attention just because you desire them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:09 AM
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If nobody bought an expensive car, it wouldn’t matter. Maybe you didn’t mean to say this, but your wording was unclear
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:04 AM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:20 AM
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I just don’t think that a person who actually studied a difficult course of study would think doctors and lawyers are just coasting, but I guess misogyny is a hell of a drug
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:11 AM
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If this is what you need to believe to be at peace with yourself, then I can’t help you. You’re not being provocative, though, because you’re just saying absurd things. I suggest learning more history and becoming happier with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:02 AM
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Do you think she’s going to stay with you forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:31 AM
1

Ugh that’s gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:12 AM
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Lol enjoy your night with your loving wife
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:08 AM
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I mean, men could get relationships if they treated women like humans
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:54 PM
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I mean, it doesn’t really affect me. Why do you think the opinion of an unwillingly single man about a married woman’s virtue should matter? What do you think would have been better for me if I had been more the type of woman you prefer? I love the life I have lived. I got to see some of the world’s greatest museums in Europe. And I didn’t have to do it on anyone else’s schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:38 PM
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Are you currently dating anyone? Have you found your 18-year-old virgin? How old are you? When I was 18 and a virgin, I was dating a guy who was 19 and a virgin. We both became not virgins together. He’s a good guy, but ultimately, we didn’t have what it took to stay together. So just to reiterate: I was a good girl who got together with a nice guy. We didn’t stay together forever. I don’t regret anything, because the guy I am with now is better for me than he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:31 PM
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Have you gone to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:16 PM
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Are you, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:15 PM
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But it was. You wanted me to know I was ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:14 PM
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Well, you seem like you really want me to know that I missed my chances with you. Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:13 PM
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Yeah, we really liked each other, but we agreed that we were not going to totally change the trajectory of our lives for each other
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:12 PM
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Have you traveled to Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:11 PM
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Because I wanted to go to Europe, and I wanted to set my own agenda. I don’t drink and I don’t like beaches that much, so I was planning on going to a lot of museums and seeing a lot of architecture
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:11 PM
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So you think that women are simultaneously not doing enough because they aren’t making equal numbers with men, but also only making equal numbers with men because of DEI quotas. Basically, you hate women no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:00 PM
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Most hostels don’t even allow men and women to be in the same room
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:55 PM
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I did hook up with one guy while I was traveling. We spent like 5 days together in Italy and 6 days together in France. We would have probably been in a real relationship, but he was working at a hostel in Scotland and I was teaching English in Shanghai at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:54 PM
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I’ve been with my husband for 20 years, married for 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:52 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:51 PM
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Don’t worry, I’ve been married for 19 years, so I have suffered exactly zero consequences for my wanton ways. I did hook up with a nice Canadian boy in Florence. He followed me to Paris and then drunk dialed me in the middle of the night a few months later and begged me to move in with him in Edinburgh. I was living in China at the time, and I declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:50 PM
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Doctors and lawyers are cushy jobs,
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:46 PM
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Do you think we keep all our old voicemails or something? Do you assume we’re still in touch with all our exes?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:17 PM
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How would you find that out? Do you typically learn that stuff about people?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:15 PM
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This is a particularly weird thing about redpill: it assumes we all grow up in small towns and know everyone’s business. You have the choice of marrying your first boyfriend or being the town mattress. I have lived in 4 states and a foreign country as an adult, not to mention backpacking in Europe by myself. Good luck in figuring out everything I did. Hope you can afford a good team of detectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:14 PM
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How would you even find out? Or do you just assume all women are lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:11 PM
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How would you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:10 PM
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Again, you’re talking about no children being born
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:57 PM
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Things are definitely better now, but early industrialization was bad for women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:51 PM
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The USA hasn’t had any soldiers drafted in 50 years. Get some real problems. Women are making up a greater percentage of STEM fields, too. In 1980, women got about 1/3 of STEM degrees. Now it’s 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:50 PM
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You said “As a woman, I don’t particularly appreciate motherhood since it’s unnecessary to create lives that need to be cared for. “
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:44 PM
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I don’t think we should go back to it, but I do think that men and women were in some ways more equal pre-1800 than post-1800.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:35 PM
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You’re optimistic and have a colorful imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:34 PM
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Until industrialization, men did manual labor outside the home and women did manual labor inside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:31 PM
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You said absolutely nobody should have children
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:30 PM
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You said literally nobody should have children
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:20 PM
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The work that parents do is hard, especially if done well. They deserve respect for rearing functioning human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:20 PM
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If nobody had any kids, the entire world would be plunged into chaos in 40 years. Imagine nobody under age 40 to do hard work. I agree with you. Slowly declining birth rates are our only hope to save the planet. But that doesn’t mean zero and it doesn’t mean parents don’t deserve respect
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:18 PM
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You would need someone to manage the robots. She was describing a scenario where nobody should have children
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:15 PM
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I didn’t say that having fewer children over time wasn’t a good thing. Shrinking birth cohorts are good for the environment and good for the economy as automation increases. What you said was that no babies should be born and that parents deserve no respect for having children. Fewer babies are a good thing. Zero babies would be a disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:14 PM
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Self sufficient how? If there isn’t anyone to farm your food or make your medicine when you’re 80, you’re going to do it yourself? Humans are social and have always relied on each other. Older people rely on younger people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:10 PM
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Women have made a lot of advances in the past century. More than half of new lawyers are women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:09 PM
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Especially when you have a baby and a toddler at the same time. Baby wants nursing, dark room, quiet, and toddler wants to run around and yell. Before cars, you could just let your toddler out the front door to run around with the village children, and there was a shared responsibility that older kids would look after younger kids to make sure nothing too crazy happened. Now you have to go with them to the playground, and people act like you’re neglectful if you don’t hold them on your lap going…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:03 PM
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On a macro scale, someone needs to be having kids, or there will be nobody to grow food for you or staff stores where you shop, or create or ship the things you need to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:52 PM
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Totally. It used to be that when you had a baby, your youngest aunt or oldest unmarried sister would come live with you until you recovered
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:50 PM
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I was told by left wingers that I wasn’t contributing to society. I was told by right wingers that motherhood and housework was easy and I was freeloading
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:48 PM
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Motherhood is simultaneously the pinnacle of women’s existence and also men created civilization while women sat around doing nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:45 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t want to have sex for money, and I wouldn’t want my husband to have sex for money, but I don’t think people who do it are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:26 PM
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Disagree. Men consume porn and blame women for being in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:24 PM
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Sex work isn’t a good thing IMO, but I don’t blame people for exploiting a market that exists. My issue is that men want to consume porn and go to strip clubs and subscribe to only fans and pay sex workers, and condemn the women who provide a service that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:20 PM
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It sounds like you’re getting your impressions of women from fictional works written by men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:35 PM
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I did. If you hate women, women won’t want to be around you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:15 PM
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I have been married for 19 years. My husband is not Chad. Most of the guys I dated before him weren’t Chad either. We’re really happy together. Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:15 PM
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It’s not an insult. You’re not succeeding because you have adopted a hateful worldview. Women are autonomous human beings, and they have sex because they enjoy it. Relationships among normal people are not transactional. They are just people who like each other spending time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:14 PM
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This attitude is clearly paying dividends for you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:34 PM
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Misogyny is your issue to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:33 PM
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How has this attitude, where you see sex as something that women grant to men, worked out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:16 PM
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If you come on here spewing vitriol about 80/20 and hypergamy, then yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:50 PM
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She was probably suppressing a lot of resentment about something for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:11 PM
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We’ve been married 20 years and have two teenage kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:03 AM
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I don’t think that porn addicts rely on porn as a substitute for sex. A lot of them have a compulsion to view porn to the point where regular sex (even sex with multiple positions and/or oral sex) doesn’t get them off anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:47 PM
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Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:43 PM
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Is it your experience? Because from talking to other women, I think it’s a mainstream sex practice for women under age 50 or so. Earlier generations might be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:40 PM
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Have you tried to talk to women about this, or are you making assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:37 PM
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Is this your experience or something an influencer told you online?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:35 PM
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It’s not typical for a person looking for low-effort sex to put in a lot of effort for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:06 PM
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The idea of the woman who uses men for expensive meals all the time is manosphere propaganda and is rare. Fuckbois are really common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:45 PM
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Because it’s a cult full of grifters
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:36 PM
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Okay, but you could emulate some of his other qualities. Be kind, funny, and smart. Be interested in different things so you have good stories to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:10 PM
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Maybe you need to realize that some women find brains appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:25 PM
1

Lucky me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:24 PM
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Gun to my head, I choose Glenn. The guy I really want is a blindingly brilliant math geek who makes fandom jokes. Why is he never an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:17 PM
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Exactly. I also debate antivaxers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:07 PM
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Because I am fascinated by people who have embraced a philosophy that obviously doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:06 PM
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These men, and the women who date them, don’t represent society at large. Also, doing research into Grimes, she strikes me as a pretty odd person
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:05 PM
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It is much easier to rule someone out than to rule someone in. If a person says or does something on a first date that really turns you off, you will know enough about them to know that you don’t want to see them again. But if the person seems nice, you will get that from the first date, and then you will have a second date where you talk about more serious stuff, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:00 PM
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They sleep with those men before they know if it’s going to be a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:56 AM
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Nope, he wasn’t particularly confident either. He’s a pretty quiet guy in general, but we just really vibed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:54 AM
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I was quoting the person I was responding to. I think a lot of guys think they’re better looking than they are. This isn’t a gender-specific delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:27 AM
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Creating an elaborate game theory to unlock the secrets and optimize your potential, especially when it has insider lingo that doesn’t make sense to anyone outside the in group is totally not cult behavior, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:25 AM
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I hope so. Also, I need to reiterate that I love him because I like him. He’s my favorite person to hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:24 AM
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I also disagree with OP. We live in an era where hypergamy is obsolete and women can choose who to marry
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:05 AM
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It’s a belief held by normal people who enjoy the company of others
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:44 AM
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Speak for yourself. I love my husband
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:35 AM
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Just going off my experience. Remember, blue pill isn’t really a thing. It’s just people not in a cult
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:33 AM
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Okay good luck. See where it gets you. I don’t think you’re a victim, though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:31 AM
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Most of the men we know who are unwillingly single have something wrong with them that they could fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:13 PM
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So you think women should lower their smv because you won’t have a relationship with a woman who makes you wait for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:27 PM
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If I were Sarah, I would stop having sex with guys on the first date unless I am looking for a hookup. They are obviously going to lie about their feelings. Also, I think this scenario is unrealistic. Unless they were having a love at first sight vibe, there’s no way to know if you want a serious relationship with a guy you went on one date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:26 PM
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There’s a redpilled dating coach who tells you he has slept with 200 attractive women. You assume he is telling the truth because you th he’s attractive and you want to be like him. You want to believe that you can also be that guy who sleeps with hundreds of women. And you pay for premium content to hear what you want to hear. The most toxic part of this is that you believe that the women that he has slept with are lower in value because of having slept with him. It’s toxic, and it’s misogynist…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:14 PM
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Because men don’t want to hear from women because we won’t blow smoke up their asses. We tell them what actually works, which they don’t want to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:40 PM
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That’s absurd. I had a traumatic childhood and am estranged from my parents. I met my husband who was 0 for 3 on 6/6/6 stats and we’ve been together for 20 years
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:37 PM
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My opinion is shaped by success vs. failure. Bluepill leads to a normal, successful life. Redpill leads to bitter, single guys in an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:23 PM
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So the thing is that redpill is a bunch of bitter single guys telling each other that you can use women and be emotionally distant and still get laid. Bluepill is the normal people trying to tell you what gave them a good life so you can do what they did. It’s your choice who to listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:40 PM
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They have since changed their position. It is notable that multiple of the world’s major religions require circumcision. Also, that the arguments that circumcision is acutely harmful are generally rooted in pseudoscience. https://publications.aap.org/pediatricsinreview/article-abstract/43/12/728/189948/Circumcision?redirectedFrom=fulltext#
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:14 PM
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Yes, I think that OP vilifies women for not being interested
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:11 PM
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What if she made another guy wait but ultimately it didn’t work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:08 PM
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The American Academy of Pediatrics says that routine circumcision is marginally safer statistically than not, but people should make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:56 PM
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Nope, guys are saying online that they want women to sleep with them right away and then evaluate whether they want a relationship with them. If men want love, they should focus on getting to know women before they sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:47 PM
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It’s how I met multiple of the guys I dated when I was younger
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:32 PM
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Okay glad your way is working out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:31 PM
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There are literally men online who say that you should never commit to a woman who won’t sleep with you. In general, it sounds like you guys all have main character syndrome. You want all the women to be in holding patterns until you get to choose the one you want after using and discarding multiple others
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:30 PM
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It’s the blaming part that’s unhelpful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:07 PM
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I mean meet people through friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:06 PM
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Okay, suit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:58 PM
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But I’m saying that the solution to this problem isn’t to whine about women being guarded. It’s to meet women on their own terms where they feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:57 PM
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I agree. They encourage people to judge each other superficially
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:55 PM
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I’m not. I’ve been married for 19 years to a guy who never strung me along. I’m telling young women not to put up with emotional manipulation. It sounds like you get a thrill out of stories where men mistreat women. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:55 PM
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Oh, he also tells me that I’m not married. Meanwhile, he claims to have a fiancée and a polyamorous girlfriend, so I think it’s projection
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:53 PM
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Okay, but women don’t owe men anything. Those men need to find ways to meet women that women don’t find threatening, like through friendships with people who might know women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:52 PM
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Men simultaneously tell women that they want virgins but don’t want commitment. This is a way to fail at dating
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:51 PM
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So if men have the intent to use women for sex and discard them, why would women like that? Doesn’t it lower their smv to say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:49 PM
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Many do. Men complain that there are few women on the apps compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:48 PM
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If you’re with a guy who wants lots of emotional support but won’t commit, just break up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:22 PM
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Okay. It doesn’t trigger me because I’m married. It seems like a lot of men are unhappy and lonely and a lot of women are not, so I don’t think it triggered them either. Can you please answer my questions? Do you think women should be simultaneously sexually available to you whether you want a committed relationship or not, but also virginal and untouched until you choose them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:18 PM
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Just curious, if a fat 5/10 approached you, would you be receptive? If not, why should a woman who isn’t interested in you be receptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:07 PM
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You don’t get to tell women that they should want you. They get to make that decision, whether it’s rational or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:06 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:05 PM
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So you think that a woman who has a sexual past is being disrespectful to you? Do you have a sexual past? Do you expect women you date to be sexually available to you before you commit to a relationship? What kind of effort are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:56 PM
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It’s an autonomous action. They do it without your approval
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:54 PM
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From what I hear from women, they get a lot of uncomfortable, too-forward, too immediately sexual attention from men who want to treat them as free sex workers. It’s not the kind of attention they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:53 PM
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You seem angry that women get to choose who they are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:51 PM
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Note that the blue pill people on this sub are married or in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:50 PM
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What do you mean by respect and putting in efforts? Give me specific examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:31 PM
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This is why we tell you to make friends who have other friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:15 PM
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I mean, I married one. What do men want? Tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:53 PM
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That’s on you. I still know young women. I assure you that they exist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:33 AM
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It depends how you approach. You need to learn how to read people and know whether someone is interested or just being polite
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:44 PM
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There are very non-superficial ways to have standards. Compatibility, for instance. Not wasting time with someone who doesn’t have the total package. That’s what dates or early first meetings are good for. If you’re a college student, this might be just sitting around the floor lounge or eating together at the dining hall. It doesn’t have to involve money at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:48 PM
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Disagree. Being less desperate and not hitting on every woman who is polite to you makes you more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:45 PM
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If you feel like most women are liars, you are a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:56 PM
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RP has nothing to do with tradition because traditional men would be considered scoundrels if they kept dumping their women for younger and younger models, and that’s the RP goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:54 PM
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Nope. Most men are RP’ed because they throw tantrums when they figure out that women are human beings who have the capability to act autonomously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:52 PM
1

Exactly. Never pick on someone for being cheated on specifically, but always pick on someone for being redpill because it’s dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:51 PM
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Making fun of redpill for being stupid is totally okay. Turning relationships into game theory is just going to lead to failure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:50 PM
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Being the kind of guy who sleeps with the same woman multiple times over an extended period of time makes you better at making her cum. Bonus, you don’t have to “pull” if she’s already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:47 PM
1

So you’ve slept with more than 20 women but hate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:17 PM
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If you sleep with someone, you shouldn’t hold them in contempt. If you hold someone in contempt, you shouldn’t sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:42 PM
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I think this will greatly help with housing shortages, too, because people will not be expected to live in the city where their office is headquartered
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:18 PM
1

You literally said you can’t help but have contempt for women who sleep with you. This is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:13 PM
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My life is great. Maybe take advice and stop giving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:04 PM
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Men are getting more 50/50 custody. Women are making up more of the workforce
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:45 PM
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And I’m wondering why you’re so committed to a losing strategy. I mean, it’s not working for you, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:43 PM
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And how has this worked for you? Because from where I am sitting, it sounds like you’re trying to sell a losing strategy to a successful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:37 PM
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No, not really. I haven’t seen a post from a woman complaining about age gap relationships recently. Maybe when Leonardo DiCaprio, almost 50 and aging badly, gets another barely legal girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:21 PM
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Um what? Again, I’m married. I have one of those guys you call a beta cuck simp white knight because he loves me and stays married to me even though I was 28 and not a virgin when I met him 20 years ago. He never had to lie to me because I wanted to be with him and he wanted to be with me. So what about you? Is your strategy paying off?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:20 PM
3

You need therapy, not game theory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:18 PM
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I don’t think you’re wrong to want what you want, but I’m suspicious of a church guy who can’t get a date, since religious groups are usually more women than men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:17 PM
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I’m saying you don’t have sex. Most guys on this sub don’t. It certainly doesn’t hurt me. I’m married, and I do have sex. Maybe if you hated women less, you might have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:04 PM
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Oh, so you slept with women but were unkind to them? How has this strategy paid off for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:03 PM
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I mean, I wouldn’t condemn women who are honest like that. The problem with guys in the redpill mindset is that they want women to be casual and also virginal. Immediately sexually available to them, but only to them. They see themselves as main characters, other men as secondary characters, and women as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:02 PM
2

Maybe join a church? Move to a bigger town? Look on Christian dating sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:52 PM
-2

Really? What about the women you describe as landwhales?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:50 PM
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I mean, all love is somewhat conditional. If my husband became an addict and started draining our life savings and becoming violent, there’s a limit to how much I would tolerate it before I left. However, I disagree that love is transactional. Most of being in a relationship is hanging out with an awesome friend that you can also have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:50 PM
2

Well, does it or doesn’t it? You’re the alpha male, right? You’re the one who makes the rules. I mean, certainly I don’t, as a married woman in a happy relationship with a guy who didn’t care that I had had sex before I met him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:16 PM
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So you’re saying you have been unsuccessful in hating women until they fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:01 PM
2

Exactly. I went on a date with a guy once who should have been perfect for me. Cute, Jewish and becoming more observant (same with me at the time), spoke multiple foreign languages and had taught abroad (me too), etc. Also, just the sweetest guy. There is literally nothing I could say negative about him. And I tried, but there was no chemistry. Zero. We’re both happily married to other people and still friends 20 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:49 PM
0

Nope. Just calling it out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:45 PM
2

Or he just did a friend a favor. Or maybe she was really qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:41 PM
2

Has this attitude paid off for you? Do you have lots of women falling all over themselves to get to you? Or are you just looking for an excuse for your bitterness?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:41 PM
3

See, whereas I would love talking politics with Brad, since I think that everything is political. Oh, and I married a guy with a high tenor/falsetto range. We joke that he had to marry me because I’m the only woman who can sing higher than he can. So obviously you and I are/were looking for a different kind of guy. And neither of us is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:40 PM
0

“Neener neener men don’t want to marry you” is a common incel retort because they’re angry at women who sleep with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:35 PM
1

This is not a particularly effective strategy of diffusing your loss in an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:33 PM
2

You seem to care a lot about her knowing that you don’t want her. I’m just matching your energy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:23 PM
2

She got a public service position while dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:20 PM
-1

It’s relevant because you seem to want women to be alone and crying on their cats instead of being used by men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:19 PM
6

Hence why 1 in 6 women are voluntarily celibate. Men who don’t care about women’s orgasms and are looking to deceive women in order to have sex are worse than nothing. How is this strategy working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:17 PM
3

You want casual non-commitment with a virgin? If you’re looking for casual relationships, you’re going to get with women who have had multiple casual relationships. If you want a woman who is circumspect about sex, she’s going to want commitment. Pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:16 PM
2

She doesn’t want to date you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:13 PM
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She’s just not that into you, buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:12 PM
-3

You seem quite gleeful at the idea of a man misleading a woman about being interested in marriage. Couldn’t be me. My husband and I were full steam ahead when we met, and we got engaged really quickly. When he proposed, I said yes right away. I had dated other guys that I thought I would marry, but if any of them had proposed, I would have said I wasn’t ready yet. Then we ended up breaking up instead
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:10 PM
0

So you think it’s great for guys to lie to women and diminish their smv by raising their n count? Has this strategy worked for you? Do you have lots of women begging for your attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:58 PM
0

My husband grew up next door to a guy who never wanted to get married. He made good money and lived in an apartment owned by a woman who was a friend of his mother’s and charged him almost nothing. He’s had a series of girlfriends over the years, and he’s totally honest about the fact that he’s not into commitment. Women generally love him, and he’s over 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:57 PM
1

I don’t think anyone has a problem with John McCrea being with a ~30 year old woman when he was 45. Especially since he’s 60 and they’re still together. People only have issues with men who date a series of very young women as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:50 PM
1

And all of her promotions since then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:28 PM
3

I think that the attacks on her are gendered. Also, I think there would be gendered attacks against her no matter what she did. For instance, Hillary Clinton had gendered attacks for being career focused and not standing by her man enough, and then also standing by him too much when he cheated. Michelle Obama had gendered and racist attacks against her for not working enough, implying that she was freeloading. Basically, no matter what women do, it’s the wrong thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:00 PM
2

John McCrea, the lead singer of the band Cake, is the nerdiest, most autistic guy you’ve ever seen. He’s also amazing and has a really successful band. He isn’t super open about his personal life, but he has said he and his wife had kids, which is why he took a break from recording and touring for a while. He stepped away to be a dad, and he didn’t need to work because he had enough passive income from his music. It’s pretty obvious, if you do the math, that he met a significantly younger woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:19 PM
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There are, but I would argue that feminism minimizes this kind of attitude. Women being taught that their “no” is valid even when a man has not committed a grave offense is important. So is it important for men to learn that a woman saying “no thank you,” isn’t to be met with whining, aggression, or an attempt to change her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:01 PM
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Argument from false premises
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:56 PM
4

She had sex, therefore woman bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:41 PM
2

They had long been broken up at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:30 PM
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Or maybe you’re trying to apply a term where it doesn’t fit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:56 AM
2

Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:28 AM
1

Sorry, sounds like sour grapes. And it sounds like you need therapy. You’re treating women like mindless automatons that can be manipulated but you also avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:24 AM
3

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:18 AM
8

Maybe this is your way of soothing your ego and rationalizing that you are in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:16 AM
5

Sexless/single women are not the same as childless women who use birth control and are married
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:14 AM
2

That doesn’t matter. If redpill was better than bluepill, then you would have someone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:12 AM
3

So you don’t have a girlfriend? All you’re saying is speculation and very hard to prove, but if you were right, it should net results. Why hasn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:10 AM
1

And how has game theory worked for you in your relationships? Are you successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:04 AM
1

No, men in the redpill cult are led to believe this. Most men are not into this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:21 AM
3

Most people don’t do that. Most women won’t break up with one guy to be with a hotter guy. I was describing hypergamy the way it’s actually depicted by anthropologists, not redpill propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:17 AM
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Different individuals like each other more than other people. Think about guys you know. Some of them you really like, and some are decent people but you just don’t vibe. It’s the same with romantic relationships. A woman isn’t looking for the shiniest object. She’s looking for the guy she vibes with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:12 AM
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Hypergamy is real but it typically means marrying someone wealthy. It’s much less common in developed countries anymore because women can earn their own money. People aren’t as status focused anymore either. Dating a good looking person doesn’t change your social prospects. Ironically, feminism makes hypergamy less necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:06 AM
8

I’m a Jew. I pray on Saturday
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:00 AM
8

She’s been a stepmother for years. And unlike Trump, she supports funding education. I am a parent, and I would definitely put her before Trump in caring for families
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:53 AM
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Zero presidents have given birth. We’re only making an issue of it because people are terrible to women no matter what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:51 AM
4

Warren Harding didn’t have children, either. Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:35 AM
17

What problems has Kamala Harris caused? Did she shoot up a sorority house?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:34 AM
7

Again, he’s talking about at least two US presidents (George Washington and James Buchanan) Edit: it’s 5, actually. Washington, Jackson, Polk, Buchanan, and Harding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:28 AM
4

George Washington had no biological children
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:27 AM
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Kamala Harris is simultaneously being portrayed as a woman who had sex to advance her career and also as a person who lived a meaningless life because she never had biological children. Do you see this as problematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:25 AM
8

It’s not lacking in empathy to say you’re not interested when someone wants to go out with you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:00 AM
1

In fact, I was really uncomfortable with it when a guy asked me for coffee and then planned dinner instead
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:58 PM
7

People are allowed to not be interested in you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:57 PM
1

You wouldn’t have any wife. My husband likes having me as a wife. You really don’t have the upper hand in this exchange. You make fun of people for having accomplishments and successful relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:21 PM
1

None of this is true. It’s just not. It’s a bad faith argument by people who want reasons to hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:56 PM
1

Nah, I have uneducated people vent their insecurities to me online all the time. I have everything you don’t. My husband has everything you don’t, and he’s 5’7” and not in shape. You did this to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:48 PM
1

Most courts award 50/50 custody
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:47 PM
1

This might be why you have so much trouble with life now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:30 PM
0

I have hobbies. The same guys who claim that women don’t have hobbies tell me that my hobbies (crafting, birdwatching, kite flying, community theater) are stupid. They want women whose hobbies are cooking, cleaning, and watching them play video games
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:06 PM
1

Most single mothers do not choose to deprive their children of a father
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:58 PM
1

So you think it’s a woman’s failure if a man doesn’t pay child support, for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:56 PM
3

So your anger is that women are superficial and venal? Maybe you’re the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:41 PM
1

I’ve been married for 19 years. Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:27 PM
1

I don’t believe in redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:26 PM
7

I once had a guy get mad at me because I wasn’t interested. He had a bunch of posters and bumper stickers with inspirational self-help quotes on his wall. I am not that person. I’m just not. I don’t condemn him for for being that guy, but that is not the guy for me. He’s in his early 50s and been divorced twice, so I don’t think that this was my failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:17 PM
1

Which is why it’s not about height, canthal tilt, chin, or money (since most of them are too young to be expected to have careers)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:09 PM
1

Chemistry. You know, one of the subjects you didn’t pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:07 PM
8

Sometimes the answer isn’t reflective of a person’s deficiencies. You just don’t feel compatible with them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:44 PM
7

I understand why men do this, but I don’t excuse it. You can’t just expect someone to fall in line because you have feelings. This is an autonomous human being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:43 PM
1

Everyone is miserable when they live entire lives putting on a mask to conform and ignoring the things they like
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:10 PM
0

Not to redpill men. Women never experienced any oppression ever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:39 PM
1

I don’t understand what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:37 PM
1

4 and 1 are utterly disposable. I can deal with introverts, and nobody I knew had a house in their 20s. In my 40s, it would different. 2 and 3 are non-negotiable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:37 PM
1

I was never encouraged to do physical activity because I was uncoordinated and bad at sports. That was something I did differently with my kids, emphasizing health and strength independent from appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:33 PM
4

Exactly. I do the cooking because I’m an awesome cook. My husband usually does the laundry. It evens out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:18 PM
1

I think so? Most of the guys I dated fall under the category of “nice face, lack of style, doesn’t work out.” I would categorize myself similarly, but I try to be more active as I age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:13 PM
4

I don’t cook and clean for a man. I cook and clean because it needs to be done. And I won’t be the only one who does it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:07 PM
3

Feminism doesn’t teach that. Third wave feminism DEFINITELY doesn’t teach that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:05 PM
6

I have never seen a woman suggest that a man hits the wall at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:02 PM
0

Definitely not. The opposite of incel isn’t “happily married feminist with kids.” Well, maybe it is, but not in a horseshoe way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:39 PM
1

I was never an alt girl. Think more librarian who loves Anne of Green Gables too much. I always dated STEM guys, and I married one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:26 PM
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Exactly. Men are so couched in patriarchy that they can’t see that their inability/unwillingness to foster close relationships is a shortcoming. They center the male experience so much that they just explain it away as “how men are.” The thing is, it’s bad for men to be this way. And not only are women not this way, but men weren’t always this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:13 PM
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I have a lot of friendly colleagues, people I do stuff with, but who I may not have tons in common. Like today I am going to volunteer in the kitchen of my synagogue. Exactly one of the people there is a close friend, and the rest are just friendly associates. That’s okay, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:08 PM
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I think they think that closeness between men is gay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:06 PM
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If one person routinely retracts consent after they have their orgasm and before you have yours, that’s manipulation. You should go into sex assuming that everyone should be happy when they’re done. Obviously there are exceptions, if someone is exhausted or begins feeling ill or whatever, but it should be a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:56 PM
1

Got stats to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:53 PM
1

I watched OG Degrassi, not the one with Drake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:51 PM
1

Nope. My son plays Pikmin and has a D&D group on discord with some alumni of his school (he’s the youngest of the group as a high school senior. The rest are freshmen and sophomores in college)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:50 PM
1

Sorry, it sounds like you live in an Avril Lavigne song, not the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:46 PM
2

This is the big problem: these guys don’t want to be in a club that would have them as a member, to paraphrase Groucho Marx
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:45 PM
1

Being an antisocial jerk who hates the people who deign to spend time with you isn’t a winning strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:31 PM
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Women aren’t whining
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:22 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:22 PM
1

There are voices in the Republican Party that are advocating for removing women’s right to vote
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:21 PM
1

I see your point, but I don’t think that groups like this which promote redpill, an inherently misogynistic ideology, are going to help incels. Moreover, I think we specifically need to fight against the misconception that incels become incels because they’re ugly. Implying that incels are generally unappealing puts the onus on women. Most incels are totally normal looking. Some are even good looking. It’s the sociopathy and anger that is driving women away.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:54 AM
1

I don’t even acknowledge the existence of alphas. Regarding thinking, I’ve got two college degrees. A husband, and two children. I teach for a living. I don’t think I need lessons on how to think from a guy who regurgitates incel cult talking points
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:14 AM
1

Okay, enjoy thinking your way into being the end of your genetic line.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:38 AM
3

No, the fact that you talked about meeting women as “the formula for how to get a pussy” and repeat incel tropes about how women are valued by just existing make me think that you are not successful with women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:54 AM
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Exactly. My happiness is my responsibility, so I am not going to waste my time with unpleasant people. If you see women as nothing more than a pussy with an inconvenient human attached to it, I am not surprised that you have trouble attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:20 AM
1

I don’t think that nobody should care about men’s issues, but I also don’t think we should blame women for men’s issues or hold them responsible for fixing men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:55 PM
0

In order to make a relationship worthwhile, you have to make someone’s life better. Would you want to be in a relationship with a woman who made you unhappy? Why should someone want you if you don’t make them happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:52 PM
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If you spew incel crap, you’re right, nobody is going to like you. Last I checked, women make money and don’t need men to survive. The playing field is equal. You don’t get a woman unless you can make her life better than being alone. Being fun to be with is a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:22 PM
2

This happened to me in middle school in about 1988 when everyone I knew suddenly found out that we were all watching an angsty Canadian show about middle schoolers in Toronto on PBS called Degrassi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:11 PM
1

It is my experience that people who have trouble socializing, not short guys etc., are the ones who end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:59 PM
6

Exactly. You find your own tribe of weirdos. The phenomenon I observe in small towns in New England is that card/game stores really attract these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:51 PM
1

EXACTLY!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:46 PM
1

Do they have friends? Maybe hang out with some of their friends. Expand your social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:42 PM
4

I have not been on this sub for years. I joined about a month ago. My husband and I are both super smart nerds. He’s an engineer and I’m a science teacher. We like each other, and we like ourselves. We have found other smart nerds who like us, too. Some of them are into nerdy things. Dr. Who and Star Wars? Check. Photographing trains? Check. Community theater? Check. Competitive trivia? D&D? Birdwatching? Check, check, and check. Most of them are either married or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:41 PM
1

You guys are constantly spewing hatred at women interspersed with weird game theory strategies. It’s hard to be sympathetic. If I try to help, I’m told I know nothing because I’m a woman and should probably not be allowed to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:11 PM
1

It’s not misandry. I’m the one with a happy marriage who doesn’t treat men with contempt. I have never ironically called a man a white knight for being nice to women. Can you say the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:59 PM
1

It is not. You’re saying that you have zero capacity for emotional labor because you outsourced that to women, so now that we’re independent enough that we don’t have to stay with people who treat us with contempt, it kinda sucks for you. This is what misogyny gets you. The pigeons have come home to roost
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:45 PM
3

You could solve your own problems
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:38 PM
1

Homeless people usually are mentally I’ll and/or suffering from addiction and/or PTSD. Comparing yourself to them when you are none of those things is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:38 PM
3

This is your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:36 PM
3

My parents didn’t want a nerd for a kid. They are/were the models of “lead lives of quiet desperation.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:34 PM
2

So your kids are going to hate you. I’m happily raising a birdwatcher who plays D&D and a choir/theater nerd. Both have good friend networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:32 PM
1

You are not systemically disadvantaged
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:30 PM
4

So your kids are going to hate you. Also, as a teacher, I am always fascinated by the things that start with nerd culture and proliferate to become normie. Students who are popular athletes watching anime, for instance. If you put a blanket ban on something you consider weird, you’re just going to look out of touch to your kids’ generation. Another example: my dad hated that I listened to non-mainstream music. The way to fit in was to listen to what everyone else listened to. I still listen to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:29 PM
2

Do you have male friends? Do you have meaningful connections?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:21 PM
1

Do you know anyone now? Do you hang out with friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:21 PM
1

The men who want to blame women for their unhappiness don’t want to hear from me. I am often told that women cannot give any valid advice to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:20 PM
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Please don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:19 PM
2

I have encountered them online. To be fair, I troll incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:18 PM
11

My parents consider me an embarrassment because I’m a weirdo but my life is everything I ever wanted. My teenage kids are living awesome lives, too, and they’re both weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:12 PM
5

So what do you consider quirks? Don’t let your son join the D&D club at school? Don’t let your daughter join the jazz choir?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:11 PM
1

Take accountability for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:07 PM
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VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE. My parents raised my sister and me (born in the’70s) to be “normies.” She succeeded and I failed. My dad lived a life of social paralysis and few friends, working hard to conform himself around what others liked and did. He hated that I had nerdy friends. I met them through choir and synagogue. Those friends sat with me at his memorial. I married a guy whom I met while he was out transit fanning, which is one of the hobbies that attracts the most autistic people you have eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:03 PM
1

I have never read Atlas Shrugged. I don’t hate men. I just observe that being bitter and bitter and playing victim doesn’t attract people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:24 PM
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I think the manosphere teaches men that having/caring for children is unmanly and not alpha, but that women are unfeminine if they don’t want children. It’s one of misogyny’s inherent contradictions. My husband and I wanted kids. When we got together, he said he wanted 1-2, and I said I wanted 2-4, but really, I would take it 1 at a time. We had a boy and a girl. While I think my husband was unprepared for the change to our lifestyle, he rose to the occasion and is a really good dad who takes go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:02 PM
6

Predatory divorce strategies (women marrying specifically for money or a green card and ditching the guy as soon as they get it) are rare. Even most passport wives are acting in good faith. Sure, they are looking for a guy with money, but they’re still trying to make a marriage work. They leave because the guy is an asshole. As far as caning adulterers, men are more likely to cheat than women. Your first paragraph is just straight up feminist, except that we believe in freedom of choice. Women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:47 PM
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Do you pay an excess of taxes? My salary is above the national median. Is yours? Do you give your life in war? Do women not give their lives in war? I hope you do remain single and cultivate friendships with men, if that’s what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:31 PM
0

There is a difference between incels and guys who can’t get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:25 PM
5

A lot of men just want to hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:24 PM
1

My parents were terrible people. My mom cheated on my dad and my dad was abusive to my mom and me. Still managed to marry an amazing guy by not taking their advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:03 PM
1

Then enjoy your singlehood and stop acting like a victim? Relationships are not merely using people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:58 PM
5

I have heard both directed at women in general from the same men. Not specifically at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:57 PM
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Many women, such as myself, have chosen both at different stages of life. I stayed home when my kids were little because the numbers worked out better for us. Now that they are older, I teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:49 PM
1

But you have had multiple relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:37 PM
1

Anything? You said you’re a success with women, so obviously life is not unfair to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:28 PM
6

I have seen many men run down both
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:26 PM
1

So why are you complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:25 PM
24

Men like to tell women that no matter what choice they make, it’s the wrong choice. The goal is to keep women insecure. Instead women are walking away from relationships. 1 in 6 women are voluntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:12 PM
1

So you’re young. How well did you know them? Were they people who sought out your company?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:52 PM
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Are you under the impression that only men pay taxes? Also, aren’t you among the people who argue that men shouldn’t pay child support to their exes? So basically, you think that the proper punishment for a woman who leaves a man is for her and her children to starve and die in the streets while no other men consent to marry her because she’s valueless after being with another man. And you wonder why you have trouble forming relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:51 PM
2

Okay. If you’re going to do the “women’s lives only improved because men allowed it to happen” line, then I can see why you don’t succeed with women. Hint: it’s your misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:34 PM
1

How did you know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:26 PM
3

So you admit the majority of men have relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:16 PM
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I mean, a majority of men don’t care about women. In fact, men on this very sub will shame other men for caring about women, calling them white knights and simps. If you want people to care about you, reach out to them. Take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:15 PM
1

So you assume that the women you want aren’t going to want you back? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:12 PM
-2

You not whining and complaining on the internet all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:59 PM
1

So you’re asking for documentation of my marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:41 PM
5

I am going to not care, since they’re not my responsibility. Why should I do anything? I have friends, my husband has friends, my son has friends, and my daughter has friends. The rest of you are not my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:38 PM
16

Maybe men should care about each other more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:09 PM
7

Agreed. The manosphere is about making money off of men who hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:09 PM
2

I grew up in a household where my parents should have gotten divorced but didn’t. It would have been better for us if they had
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:57 PM
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How is it a danger to women when men have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:45 PM
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Maybe you should become likeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:43 PM
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I have a husband because I had the social skills to get one and didn’t sit around complaining about men all day. I recommend you stop complaining so much as a strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:43 PM
1

So you don’t find normal women attractive and only find the most attractive women worthy? Do you ever have conversations with people? Have you ever liked anything about women other than their appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:41 PM
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Why is it our job to take care of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:01 PM
0

So you think this is better than actually being with someone who likes you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:50 PM
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The pandemic happened in the middle, which greatly increased isolation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:42 PM
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Just because someone wrote an article about it 7 years ago doesn’t mean that it’s caught on
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:35 PM
1

People who subscribe to actual incel ideology, not just guys who don’t date? Not that many
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:31 PM
1

I never said it was impossible, just that it wasn’t common
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:29 PM
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That seems like a shortcoming that they should work on
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:30 AM
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Honestly, though, if I didn’t have my husband, I have a lot of female friends whom I could hug, and failing that, I have my cats. If men are lonely, why can’t they turn to other men? I suspect a lot of men’s problems are from homophobia
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:23 AM
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To me, a creep is a guy who comes on strong after I have given him no reason to do so. It requires a certain lack of awareness and a certain level of presumption for me to go there. Do some women label men creeps over non-creepy behavior? Maybe. Would a woman label a guy she’s not interested in a creep for doing something that a guy whom she’s interested in could do and not be called a creep? Also maybe. However, it’s in a guy’s best interest to get a strong vibe of a woman being interested befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:31 PM
1

Dude has to have a finance app on his phone. Has he ever used it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 10:25 PM
6

Or we’re not cultists
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:38 PM
15

I was forced to pick a flair under the new Reddit system but I think calling oneself blue pill is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:21 PM
1

Men can be pretty degenerate, too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:59 PM
1

Aw, you just started spewing hate again. I tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:58 PM
0

Bad when it comes from either gender. And I think dating apps definitely promote it which sucks. But the solution isn’t redpill bullshit. It’s people communicating with each other through their social networks. I have a suspicion that a lot of this probably has to do with the weakening of worship communities and the move from smaller cities to larger cities. I’m not suggesting that people go to church if that’s not their jam, but people need to start hanging out together more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:45 PM
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Okay, you’re almost there. Can you accept that 1. Each person’s attractiveness hierarchy is slightly different, and 2. People are entitled to find whatever they want attractive as long as they aren’t abusive to people for living their own lives, and 3. Another person exercising their autonomy by not finding you attractive doesn’t make them a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:34 PM
1

I thought that Daniel Craig was beta because he took care of his kids and Jason Momoa was beta because he wore pink
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:54 PM
0

And once men started choosing it, people stopped hiring women. Did you know that there used to be separate classified ads for men’s jobs and women’s jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:43 PM
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I have never seen that. I have seen women calling other women pick me for doing ridiculous things like bringing their partner a plate and not eating until he’s done. Or telling other women to do all the cooking and cleaning. I cook in my family. I don’t do it for my husband, I do it for everyone because it needs to be done. It’s not service, it’s work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:34 PM
1

Interesting. I haven’t seen women do that. I have seen men call other men betabuxx because they have money though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:26 PM
1

Men do it more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:16 PM
1

Women never say unkind things about my husband. Only alpha males online do. Is that because women are misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:11 PM
2

You said that people have different values. So why should what other women want matter? You are contradicting yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:45 PM
3

So when you talk about high value men, it can mean anything you want it to? So when you tell me I failed to lock down a high value man and had to settle for betabuxx, I can say that my nerdy, smart husband is high value in my opinion, and I will be right? In other words, if people are happy with what they have, it’s not up to anyone else to classify or criticize it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:34 PM
1

Right. So there’s no universally recognized high value man, and alpha males don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:15 PM
1

Right. So there’s no universally recognized high value man, and alpha males don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:14 PM
5

I just assume that you guys get your stats from online anecdotes and not from actual humans
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:39 PM
5

So they’re incredibly common and also invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:32 PM
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I mean, you could attempt to insult me for being stupid, but you would be wrong. The incel narrative is “feminist women circumcise boys because they hate men” as stated by the poster above. The practice of circumcision was invented by men and usually championed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:26 PM
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I live in the world and rarely see it. I certainly don’t see it among my friends. Do you see it among your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:21 PM
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You’ve never been to a zoo? I have. They exist. You’re welcome. Redpill guys act like very young women dating much older men is common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:18 PM
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It means it’s something men do to boys for tribal identity reasons. It’s not something women do to boys because they hate them and want to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:14 PM
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I find that the definition of high value is fluid depending on the incel who uses it. If the incel is over 6’, then suddenly women only date men over 6’6”. If the incel has bought premium redpill content that says women will date older men with money, the incel buys crypto and hopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:09 PM
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Except when they’re betabuxx. Keep up. High value alpha means only looks when betas have the money, but it means money when alphas have the money. This makes sense and doesn’t contradict itself at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:59 PM
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I never knew 18-year-old women dating 35-year-old men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:57 PM
4

So is that just betabuxx then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:57 PM
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Either way, we should reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:37 PM
0

Why do you get angry at women wanting men who have any merit at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:26 PM
6

A higher proportion of incels are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:02 PM
1

I married a guy I saw as human. What did I do wrong? I mean, since you’re the one that is giving women advice on how to change themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:32 PM
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Got a link? There’s relatively little study on testosterone levels in men over time. We know it’s been dropping over the last few decades, but we don’t know if it was at artificially high levels, or if dropping testosterone levels are a bad thing, even.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:30 PM
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Irrelevant. Incels are a violent group
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:29 PM
9

Did the study indicate that testosterone levels decreased? Or maybe low-testosterone men make better husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:15 PM
8

This isn’t comprehensive. The guy who threw the kid over the railing at the Mall of America had originally gone there planning to harm a woman instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:04 PM
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This is a pathetic excuse especially in light of the multiple incel murderers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:49 AM
1

Oh, right. Alpha males are broke, don’t commit, and don’t have children, and also don’t care about women’s orgasms. How could I forget?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:35 AM
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Nope. But this is the weirdest attempt at an insult I have ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:34 AM
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There are lots of good looking guys I wouldn’t sleep with because I prefer intelligent men. I’m even married to one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:37 AM
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I married a guy who is incredibly smart and had a good job when I met him. He’s cute but I wouldn’t describe him as Chad. He’s 5’7. We’ve been together for 20 years. Should I have chosen someone unemployed and less interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:36 AM
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I do find most men repulsive. Most men are less intelligent than I am, and they fail to hold my interest. I will be polite to most men, but brains are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:57 AM
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It shows that incels are slightly more likely to be liberal than conservative, though considering that the men they interviewed were young, probably not more liberal than other men their age on average
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:21 AM
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Am I the only woman who needs at least one semi-deep conversation with someone to know if I’m attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:18 AM
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I do all the cooking in my family and most of the grocery shopping. It’s a thing that needs to be done and I do it. It costs 3-4X as much to eat out as it does to cook. I spend about $300/week for our family of 4 (including 2 hungry teenagers)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:37 AM
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That link doesn’t say anything about mothers being feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:33 AM
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I’m playing the long game, as we’ve been together 20 years and our kids are teens. I’m a fat old hag and he’s peaking in SMV in his 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:25 PM
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I hope they see the light. Nice to meet you. I’m a run-through post waller who found a guy for betabuxx. I’m assuming you’re a cuck simp?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:00 PM
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Why do you spend your time inventing gothic scenarios like this? Women earn their own money now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:36 PM
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I looked him up. He’s young and has nice hair. The face tattoos are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:39 PM
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If your view of what’s acceptable is that narrow, you’re causing problems for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:37 PM
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I mean, good. More women should be hearing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:36 PM
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I mean, I don’t think you have a chance to get women because you’re belittling and mean. Maybe try not being like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:35 PM
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I dated a guy who went on to do porn. He and I didn’t have porn sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:29 PM
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I haven’t even looked up his picture. I’m just assuming it’s the same as the women who fawn over Chris Watts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:23 PM
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Cats and ice cream (I don’t drink). The smart guy is a jealous asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:17 PM
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You think those are accurately reported statistics? I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:36 PM
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It’s not serving you well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:35 PM
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The OP said porn can teach you how to have sex. I said porn won’t teach you what women want. Sponge said who cares what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:24 PM
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Nope, being a jerk is the self-inflicted wound I was talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:15 PM
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Reality doesn’t support this attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:15 PM
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Autonomy makes women better at getting out of bad relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:14 PM
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Okay so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:10 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:08 PM
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I’m fascinated by your self-inflicted wounds
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:07 PM
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Abuse goes down as women’s autonomy goes up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:07 PM
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I think a lot of guys don’t realize that women are turned off because they’re jerks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:06 PM
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I’m married, so I think I probably know more about interpersonal relationships than you do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:06 PM
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Maybe the problem isn’t their looks? Most high profile incels look normal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:58 PM
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You see yourself as a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:35 PM
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I mean, maybe women don’t reject you for being short…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:33 PM
-2

Tell me more about the anger/acceptance phases
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:14 PM
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I often joke that the behaviors that RP dismisses as “beta simping” (making good money, being equal with household chores, caring about a woman’s orgasm) sound more like “ideal husband behavior.” Your girlfriend is, or your future girlfriend will be, a very happy and lucky woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:13 PM
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I’ve been married for 19 years to a man who treats me well. Has being unkind to women gotten you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:11 PM
-1

What is beta strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:10 PM
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I don’t see most women doing that. More women are currently in law school than men. Do women see you as a wallet? What do you do for a living?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:04 PM
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Porn does not accurately depict what women want in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:29 PM
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Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:17 PM
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I think these are cases where men literally stop trying after they get the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:17 PM
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Yeah, the woman I know is a Trumper who stopped speaking to me after I opposed her claim that Joe Biden stole the 2020 election.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:15 PM
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I am not. I have heard of women being with men who stop showering when they move in/marry/etc. it’s seen as bad for women to leave men for things men can fix, and redpill tells me that a woman who leaves a man, especially if she has a child, has less SMV. So the blindsided women try to fix the disgusting men who changed after they were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:14 PM
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I wish I knew how much time babies take, but also how temporary the baby stage is. People really do lose their personalities for a while, but usually they get them back
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:11 PM
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I know a woman like that. She gets with a guy, has a couple of kids, bails and leaves the kids. She’s got like 8 kids with 3 or 4 guys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:08 PM
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Really? Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:03 PM
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If a guy is always well groomed when he picks you up for a date, and you move in with him and he stops showering, I don’t get how women are at fault for that but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:02 PM
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I mean, you would have to conceive them through some method other than sexual intercourse
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:00 PM
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Boo effing hoo. Attractive women, too, but that doesn’t guarantee that they are treated better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:59 PM
1

I have found that bitter men spam downvote me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:58 PM
1

Clearly the problem is all women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:54 PM
1

Okay. Clearly they will consider your opinion more than mine. I met my husband when he was 25 and I was 28. We’ve been married for 19 years, together for 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:36 PM
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A lot of the men (under 30, because this stat doesn’t apply to older men) who are single are having casual hookups. So they’re riding the vag carousel. The fact that you hate women might be why you can’t get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:33 PM
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It’s very weird to wish for your children to be born with certain sexes In certain orders. The probability is very near random. You can try to plan how many kids you have (doesn’t always work) but you can’t plan which ones are going to be boys or girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:30 PM
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I wouldn’t know about that. That’s not the kind of sex I have. I did once have sex with a guy who thought that when he was done, we were done, whether I came or not. Not interested in that kind of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:27 PM
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My son is older
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:25 PM
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90% of men are not rejected by 100% of women. You just made a very unkind comment in a response to me in another thread. I think maybe you’re not as nice as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:24 PM
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It’s interesting to me that men cry that women are too superficial about looks while they simultaneously abuse fat women for existing. You can literally not talk about fat women. Nobody is forcing you to abuse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:23 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:01 PM
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I get told that I’m misandrist all the time despite being in a happy marriage, having male friends, etc. But redpill men online tell me my husband is a beta simp cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:01 PM
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And you’re obviously emotionally mature enough to realize that a woman not being interested doesn’t necessarily make her a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:00 PM
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In fact, I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:58 PM
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I don’t think that each marriage has a 40% chance of falling apart. I think that some people get married to people they’re not compatible with, and some people don’t know how to resolve marital conflict (and all relationships, even good ones, have conflict).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:58 PM
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This is the underlying problem with seeing people as objects and not as humans
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:56 PM
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Usually I see it happens because of something like children or grad school. It’s less that they stop trying and more that they get really busy with something else
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:55 PM
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Circumcision is a patriarchal practice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:51 PM
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I have a son and a daughter. I think they’re both awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:50 PM
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My husband doesn’t feel that way about me and wouldn’t describe our sex life like that. You’re the one who said it about your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:49 PM
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I know many who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:48 PM
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I don’t see this from women. Women are taught “he’s just not that into you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:48 PM
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I am skeptical about Portugal. Are they just counting the number of divorces against the number of marriages each year? Because a relatively recent switch to no-fault divorce plus a 30-year drop in birth rates might contribute to a massive inflation of those statistics. In other words: lots of older people getting divorced who should have gotten divorced a long time ago + very few younger people getting married because there are fewer young people in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:37 PM
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Maybe with you they are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:25 PM
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You would be surprised how hard it is to get guys to admit that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:22 PM
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Yes. But she had no way of knowing. Again, very different from a woman who goes from single to married to mother of an infant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:21 PM
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Honestly I would rather they try and get it wrong, as long as they are willing to learn what they did wrong. I teach chemistry. Some of the most logical guesses are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:20 PM
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Divorce rates are at just over 40% and falling. I see them as being together forever because they genuinely like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:18 PM
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That’s sad. I wouldn’t be with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:17 PM
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If you’re not enjoying giving pleasure, you have no business having sex. That’s for all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:16 PM
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Nobody is to blame as long as everyone is ready to be done. If only one person climaxed and the other person did not and wants to, you’re not done. If you get yours and don’t want the other person to get theirs, you’re to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:15 PM
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This is a sad viewpoint. I just went to a wedding in February. The bride is very average looking and the guy she married is also average looking and also short. They are both super nerdy and crazy about each other. The wedding was the best time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:01 PM
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Sure you do, puppy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:58 PM
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I have a son. You have a very active fantasy life if you think this is how mothers view their sons
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:54 PM
2

Got a citation to back that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:51 PM
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Just curious, what do you do for a living? If you think serving is easy, you’ve obviously never done it. A quick google shows that 30% of factory workers are women. Factories typically run 24 hours with 3 shifts, each 8 hours. You don’t have a lot of work experience, I can tell. Do you live at home with your parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:50 PM
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Oh, women are bad if the men they date fall short. It’s not that men do wrong. Blame women always.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:44 PM
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Do you think women don’t work in factories?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:42 PM
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Most factories are climate controlled and have 8 hour shifts. Women also work factory jobs. Also, I don’t think restaurant servers just sit around all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:42 PM
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How many women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:40 PM
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He would do them when he went out, but once they started staying in and living together and seeing each other every day, he stopped
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:27 PM
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I teach high school, and my big thing is to tell kids to trust their instincts because they won’t answer questions unless they know they’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:25 PM
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So you admit some men are misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:24 PM
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You’re a man. Why do you assume you know what goes on inside other women’s heads?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:23 PM
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Do you assume only hot people have happy relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:22 PM
8

Every young, handsome murderer has a female fan club. It’s a very small fan club. Most of us are not into murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:19 PM
1

My parents are/were terrible people who refused to accept me for who I am. I’m much happier without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:29 PM
3

All of them are too young for me. Add 20 years to their ages and assume they have relevant work experience that puts them relative to guys in their 40s, and Luke is the only choice, especially if he’s funny
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:27 PM
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I hear lots of redpill men referring to women as landwhales. Is that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:24 PM
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This is not an emotionally healthy take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:23 PM
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I just took my son on a college visit. The questions some of these parents were asking were crazy, like it was obvious that they were intending to pick their kid’s schedule
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:16 PM
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I have heard this from women whose spouses do nothing outside of work. If you’re going to do all the work maintaining your home with no help, there’s no point in being married
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:14 PM
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If you’re into someone and they’re not into you, you shouldn’t act like they’re the villain for having autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:02 PM
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Most of these guys come on really strong to women who don’t know them and aren’t into them, or they don’t approach women at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:48 PM
2

Right. But which one? Because if she dates any redpilled loser, all the other ones are going to get mad. Also, it’s alpha to cheat and not commit, so she’s going to have the choice of not having a boyfriend but getting stuck in a situationship with a guy who rejects her, which lowers her SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:47 PM
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But acting like a hopeless victim isn’t the way to go. Average and below-average-looking men get relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:39 PM
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My feeling is that a lot of people don’t know themselves very well. If you don’t know who you are, you can’t know what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:32 PM
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That’s a lot of women. What was it about them that made you choose them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:31 PM
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But at the same time, the world is not populated with “women who get to date Robert Pattinson” and “women who live lives of constant disappointment.” You don’t have to be the most attractive guy in the world to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:30 PM
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You think men don’t? I have read so many stories about “my boyfriend stopped brushing his teeth and showering now that we’re living together.” Very different from “my wife wears pony tails and has gained 20 pounds since she gave birth to our child 3 months ago.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:28 PM
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They want women to not be autonomous
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:22 PM
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Literally all the time. “The bitch put me in the friend zone.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:16 PM
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You should do your best to be the most attractive you can be, but that doesn’t mean that only the most attractive people get relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:08 PM
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Why did you flirt with all of the women in your friend group?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:07 PM
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But being with you lowers their SMV, and you won’t want them if they want to wait for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:21 AM
2

They are not. Fetuses are not children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:02 PM
1

Women literally get murdered for rejecting men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:42 PM
1

Blue pill is just normal people not in a cult
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:28 PM
8

I’ve been married for 19 years. My mom was in a terrible marriage and is now in a relationship with a guy who constantly talks shit about her. I am much happier than my mom ever was. Why should I listen to you again? Are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:40 PM
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So good for you and all the women I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:38 PM
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So I’m just curious: if women are supposed to not look for guys who have money, guys who are good looking, etc., what should we look for? I’ve already been told that there’s no point for men to be nice to women, women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, and women’s sexual pleasure shouldn’t matter to men. What is the benefit of being with a guy? I mean, I love my husband, but I’ve been told I just married him for betabuxx because I was alpha widowed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:51 PM
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So I’m just curious: if women are supposed to not look for guys who have money, guys who are good looking, etc., what should we look for? I’ve already been told that there’s no point for men to be nice to women, women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, and women’s sexual pleasure shouldn’t matter to men. What is the benefit of being with a guy? I mean, I love my husband, but I’ve been told I just married him for betabuxx because I was alpha widowed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:51 PM
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Looks aren’t the most important thing and also probably not why women are rejecting you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:57 PM
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Got stats to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:25 PM
2

Some do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:15 PM
3

Clearly you don’t value looks at all and women are wrong for not being pretty objects to any man who chooses them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:15 PM
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Women are vilified for rejecting men. If a woman says she’s not attracted and you complain you’re a nice guy and she should be attracted, that’s not nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:57 AM
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How is it working for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:46 AM
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So you’re saying it’s better to live under ISIS?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:26 AM
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I don’t hate the manosphere. I find it hilarious. I observe that it doesn’t serve you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:25 AM
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No, I’m just pointing out that the manosphere seeks to condemn women no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:04 AM
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So you’re imagining women saying bad things about you so you’re horrible to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:01 AM
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So maybe you could do a few things: Don’t condemn women for doing the same things you have done (sleep around and decide it’s not for them) Don’t assume most women want ridiculously tall and rich and fit guys, because they don’t. Don’t use disrespectful and dehumanizing language against women. This might help you with your problems
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:51 AM
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Some people. Not most people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:45 AM
2

You are aware that Hillary Clinton’s current job is being the chancellor of a university in Ireland, and she’s not in politics anymore, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:44 AM
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There’s only a gender war going on inside the brains of the chronically online
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:40 AM
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Good for you! Glad your life is great
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:37 AM
2

So you have a lot of baggage now and can’t pair bond?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:34 AM
2

Wrong <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:33 AM
3

It kind of is. That’s the point of government. Read the preamble to the constitution
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:30 AM
5

Oh, so you’re run through and used up? But you think a virgin should want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:27 AM
6

Would you date a woman who refused to sleep with you because she was trying to figure out if you were marriage material?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:24 AM
5

Ah. How many men make a woman unable to pair bond?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:19 AM
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Oh I’ll do women should be virgins until they meet a middle class guy and then just settle down with the first one they date? Should men be in relationships with a woman who’s not interested in having sex? I just want to know if there are any correct choices women can make
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:14 AM
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I kind of get this logic. Basically, if a person averages fewer than 1 person a year after adulthood, their life isn’t too crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:01 AM
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Interesting. But when she does stick with a guy who lives modest it’s betabuxx
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:59 AM
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So we condemn women no matter what choice they make: rich guy means she’s a gold digger, middle class guy means betabuxx, poor guy and she should choose better. Are there any correct choices that women can make?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:38 AM
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So women are obsessed with deadbeats and money?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:50 AM
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I think people who talk about these women in the abstract treat women like this in their real lives
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:23 AM
2

Shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:22 AM
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I don’t have a problem with guys who play D&D. My husband is a railfan. He makes D&D guys look like the captain of the football team. Incels aren’t incels because they’re nerds. They’re incels because they are hateful misogynists. I’m sure there’s a woman for you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:54 PM
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The stock market is higher now than it was under Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:51 PM
2

You realize the EPA was created by a Republican?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:50 PM
3

Right. It’s much better when people don’t have those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:48 PM
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Right. Living in a nice place with breathable air and drinkable water with people not dying in the streets is vastly inferior to funneling all the money to the billionaires so they can tear up nice places that we might have all enjoyed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:53 PM
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Building a functioning society is good for everyone. I don’t have the capability to explain to you that a place where people are not living in the streets is more desirable for everyone than a place where people are not living in the streets. Calcutta before Mother Teresa is not most people’s idea of utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:22 PM
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Maybe if you hate all women for caring about other people, then people shouldn’t listen to you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:14 PM
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Maybe women aren’t the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:58 PM
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Most people in society are. This group is full of incels whose only hobby is hating women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:54 PM
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Right. And all the men know the difference between a woman who weaponizes her freedom of bodily autonomy and should be punished for neglecting her man’s needs, and one who doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:26 PM
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You know what you said. Stop trying to cry your way out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:06 PM
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Literally not what anyone said. Way to play victim because you won’t take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:58 PM
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And you assume it’s usually a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:56 PM
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Racist and misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:29 PM
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Most people who get married do so in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:11 PM
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You literally just described women who have sex as being unable to keep their legs closed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:11 PM
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Women are expected to be constantly sexually available and also virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:09 PM
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You’re assuming that saying someone is tired is duplicity. This tells me that you have probably coerced someone into having sex they didn’t want to have
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:43 PM
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So you just assume that when people say they’re tired, they’re actually lying
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:14 PM
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Crazy how?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:59 PM
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Meh. I’m not a gym bunny myself. As long as he can do light/moderate physical activity with me. Like going on a (slow) hike or walking around a city. As long as he can live within his means. A studio apartment and dates consisting of Thai food and second-run movies are fine. Credit card debt is unattractive. I don’t want to be expected to pick up after a grown man No. Gross. I drink very little and don’t do drugs. I don’t want someone who is constantly drunk/high, or who pressures me to drink/ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:54 PM
2

Danny DeVito met Rhea Perlman when they were both young and doing theater in NYC
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:30 PM
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He’s short, redhead, and Jewish
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:25 AM
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Keep telling people that. You also said that women need to be sexually available at all times. I’m sure it works for you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:55 PM
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I’m saying that the threatening women with taking away their right to vote if they aren’t sexually submissive and available at all times is unattractive. This is why women won’t date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:25 PM
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Sometimes people are tired
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:09 PM
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If you think you should use your power to fight against women’s right to vote, this might be why women don’t date you and not your height
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:09 PM
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OP explicitly stated that women who are too tired for sex are lacking empathy. You are being willfully obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:20 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:55 PM
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“Empathy for the sexual needs of men” means “why do women refuse sex to men who want it.” If you don’t understand the meaning of the post, I can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:54 PM
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Obligatory sex was literally the topic of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:32 PM
6

Same. I married one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:24 PM
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So you think women are incapable of compassion because you love women so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:13 PM
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I’m sure women don’t date you because you’re short
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:34 PM
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Nope. Please touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:34 PM
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Or they genuinely like guys like that. You really need to stop being so bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:53 PM
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Then this is your choice. Nobody is obligated to make this choice. Btw, your story doesn’t ring true. I think you’re trying to bait people into a double standard so you can catch them out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:19 PM
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And you think you’re granting women the right to vote out of magnanimity. If you’re forcing yourself to have sex that makes you uncomfortable, you are probably not in a good relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:51 AM
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You literally said women shouldn’t vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:42 AM
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And they wonder why women aren’t attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:32 AM
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There are a lot of so-called exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:30 AM
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You shouldn’t be obligated to have sex if you don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:30 AM
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It’s not interesting to me because the answer to 90% of the questions is that people should just break up. People need to be more okay with leaving relationships when they’re not happy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:17 AM
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A lot of your problems are a result of misogyny. I’m not crying. I’m giving advice on how your life could be better. Also, the comment was about misandry. You guys hate most men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:12 AM
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Cold approaching with the intent of dating has always been weird. Chatting with strangers in public to pass the time is less common, but I still do it. Of course, I’m a middle aged mom, so I’m really unthreatening
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:09 AM
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Yes because women voting doesn’t make you unsafe. Men raping and sexually harassing women makes them unsafe. I’m sure women don’t date you because you’re short.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:06 AM
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I’m a non-neurotypical nerd chick. I literally have dated multiple guys like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:05 AM
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Access to another person’s body is a desire. If it’s a need for you to have sex more than you are in order to maintain your current relationship (lol) then break up. If you’re speaking in hypotheticals, stop imagining problems that you don’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:04 AM
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What flaws? My life is awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:02 AM
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Access to another human being’s body is not a right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:58 AM
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Again, I think this might be a bias you have because of the media you consume. Most long term relationships don’t result in dead bedrooms. Men can be the ones refusing to have sex. Not all women would think that a man would be obligated to put up with a dead bedroom either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:57 AM
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AWALT or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:54 AM
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Maybe but I’m chatty and think they encourage people to be superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:43 AM
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I met him before dating apps were a thing. I probably wouldn’t ask a guy’s height because I’m short and like 99% of guys are taller than I am
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:21 AM
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Okay. I like intelligent men. I don’t speak for anyone but myself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:18 AM
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Ironically, I am still in touch with the ex and he married someone else. We were friends before we got together, so we just regard our relationship as a failed experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:47 AM
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I was riding a city bus to my volunteer job at the library. It went through the tourist area of town, so it was usually full of people on vacation. This was 2004, so I sometimes talked to the tourists. Cute guy gets on bus and sits next to me. I asked him about his vacation, and we just started talking like we knew each other our whole lives. Like, he just “got” me. He followed me to the library, and I showed him around the art galleries. I had to get to my volunteer gig. He had to meet up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:12 AM
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Look, I get that you need to feel superior to someone. I’m just going to have dinner with my family and you can feel the closest thing to happiness you have had in a while for winning a sealion fight
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:15 PM
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Women have the same capabilities that men have. Obviously, women have not made all of the same achievements as men because there were social barriers to women’s achievement. Women were banned from entering most universities until less than 200 years ago. Obviously women don’t date you because of your height
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:07 PM
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Women are intellectually equal to men. Not physically identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:49 PM
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I don’t think it’s changed that much. Apps suck but you don’t have to meet people that way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:46 PM
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I would never ask my parents advice because they hated each other. I succeeded by doing the opposite of what they would want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:35 PM
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Yeah, guys! Don’t listen to a person who had a successful love life! Definitely take advice from single and divorced guys online!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:32 PM
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