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Also, her husband’s story is really fishy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 12:11 AM
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Who’s sex shaming? You’re literally claiming that women are responsible when men abuse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:26 PM
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Nah, nobody’s gonna read it. It’s deep into a 2-day old thread and takes a lot of words to cry victim and use a straw man argument
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:20 PM
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Not gonna read all that. Women aren’t beyond reproach, but I refuse to take accountability for bad things done to me by a man because men won’t take accountability for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:04 PM
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It’s a long process, but we’re winning. It’s so bad that male influencers are starting to claim that supporting your own children as a man is unmasculine. Keep crying about gold diggers, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:56 PM
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We’re smashing the patriarchy as we speak. The manosphere is peak dying patriarchy: male social rejects bellowing at socially successful women about how they should change themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 01:55 PM
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The thing I prefer about work is that it starts and it ends, and I get to use my brain and be valued for being smart. Having older kids is much easier, but with babies, I felt like I was constantly running on a treadmill and nobody saw how hard I was running
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 01:34 PM
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Not if you do it every day. If someone else gives you all the snacks and clean changes of clothes and bandaids and sunscreen and makes sure everyone’s had a good breakfast before handing them off to you and telling you to have fun at the park while she washes dishes and mops the floor, sure, having the kids is more fun
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 01:19 PM
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My belief that it’s better to marry a smart guy and not get hung up on height? My daughter is happily dating a short guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:49 PM
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Yes, men are being oppressed when women don’t have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:52 PM
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Your beliefs are going to destroy you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 11:10 AM
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My biggest piece of advice is to socialize and meet lots of people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:11 AM
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So my beliefs are going to destroy me except they didn’t, but they’re irrelevant because I’m old so you still win? Angry misogynists are not a new phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:09 AM
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I prefer intelligent men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:56 PM
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Unwanted pregnancy in women 19-25 is down
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:53 PM
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Yeah, they should stop that. Any outcome when women choose men results in men vilifying them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:20 PM
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No, women should just stop choosing men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:14 PM
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You’re right. Men are never going to do better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:08 PM
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I just don’t think we should blame women for men’s behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:29 PM
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Good thing women reject you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:25 PM
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Domestic violence is trending down because women have the option of not being with men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:17 PM
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Maybe men should stop being toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:14 PM
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So women should turn down bad men? I thought that’s what they were doing. Domestic violence is trending down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:13 PM
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So we should turn our daughters into hypergamous gold diggers? Or we should teach them to date losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:01 PM
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So women are toxic when men do bad things to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:56 PM
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The reality of the world that you don’t actually experience? My husband is a middle manager at an engineering firm and we have a really great life. He’s not on a yacht posting pictures of all the pornstars he’s banging
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 04:28 PM
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From a guy who can’t get a date lecturing me on my actual life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:38 PM
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Nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:12 PM
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What hobbies do you engage in outside your home? I birdwatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:43 AM
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So you don’t go out and don’t do stuff, and you’re complaining that it’s women’s fault
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:42 AM
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Do you go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:33 AM
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Nothing has changed. You have to go out and meet people and do stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:31 AM
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How I have met interesting men whom I would have dated if I were single in the last 10 years: Parents of children who engaged in extracurricular activities with my children, so we were stuck hanging out while our kids did their thing People I have met through work People I have met through my religious community People I have met through a hobby group
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:31 AM
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Yeah, totally dismiss someone who has what you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:27 AM
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Do you socialize?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:27 AM
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I have been with my husband for 22 years. Before him, I would meet men in the normal ways, at work, through friends, through my religious community, through hobbies… If I were single now, that’s how I would meet men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:24 AM
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Or maybe you don’t have the goods to attract someone on intelligence and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:22 AM
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My cutoff for looks is pretty low. Most guys are normal looking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:14 AM
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I have never used a dating app and likely never would
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:13 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:56 AM
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Out of 100 men who are age appropriate and likely to be in my social circle, probably 90 of them pass the looks and initial safety tests. The vast majority of the remainder of them get eliminated on the grounds of being not smart or interesting enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:54 AM
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I’m 50 years old and have been married to the same guy for 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:50 AM
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I said repeatedly that my husband is 5’7”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:49 AM
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Okay, 5’2” and he’s 5’7”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:51 PM
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I literally don’t care about height. You’re mad about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:52 PM
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I didn’t say I thought this way. It’s literally something they’ve accusing me of
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:51 PM
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Literally, you’re angry that I didn’t chase Chad. Women can’t do anything acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:51 PM
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Yeah but now they’re just going to claim that you, your brothers’ wives, and your daughter don’t fuck their husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:30 PM
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So you’re single and rejected, and I married my nerd dream guy, and I don’t have a dead bedroom, and you’re celibate, and you’re arguing that my life is somehow bad? Should I have chased Chad instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:05 PM
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You are not coming off as wise, parroting the words of bitter single and divorced men. I don’t have a dead bedroom, and let’s just say that I have multiple friends who had surprise pregnancies in their 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:56 PM
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Ugh men are so bad at math
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:45 PM
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Right, so you just assume it’s true because you heard it from some influencer who made it up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:33 PM
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Got any data to back this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:58 PM
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The average man is 5-6 inches taller than the average woman. Dating a man shorter than yourself means dating someone two full standard deviations below you in height, and I’m already below average. There aren’t very many adult men who are shorter than I am. It’s absurd that this is the virtue test you demand from women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:57 PM
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5’2.5”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:54 PM
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Because people who associate with other people don’t think the way you do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:04 AM
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No, seriously, if you had a friend circle, you would notice your nerdy friends with nerdy wives
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:58 AM
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You literally have no friends, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:53 AM
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It’s literally what you’re claiming, because if nerdy women never dated nerdy men and instead chased Chad, there would be no nerdy couples
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:48 AM
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You are arguing that nerds never date and marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:24 AM
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Oh, I’m a nerdy woman married to a nerdy man. Maybe you’re wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 03:44 AM
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There are a lot more men not in the redpill cult than in the redpill cult, but most men in the redpill cult are single. My husband is 5’7”. I prioritized intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 03:09 AM
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So guys aren’t interested in their looksmatch?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 03:08 AM
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Yeah, never take advice from women, because they tell you what women want. Don’t listen to bluepill guys because they’re all happily married or dating and getting laid. Only take advice from bitter single men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:46 AM
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I would think that if you’re going to argue that people on Reddit aren’t like people in the world, then the men on Reddit might do well to listen to women on Reddit. If men on Reddit are nerds, and so are women on Reddit, shouldn’t nerdy guys listen to what nerdy women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:16 AM
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They aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:25 AM
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Divorce rates are cratering
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:24 AM
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Statistics show otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:24 AM
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Most of you are never going to change the world in any meaningful way. Having a boring, mediocre life with people you really like is really great. That said, I would at least hope that most men don’t marry out of inertia. I married my husband because we really liked each other, and after 21 years of marriage, we’re still best friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 01:22 AM
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Because you’re an extremely combative and unpleasant person who is looking for a conduit to blame and hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 10:17 PM
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Again: your looks are not the reason women reject you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:24 PM
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I had times in my life where I would have considered myself not ready for children, but I was sexually active. I am lucky that I never had a partner pressure me not to use birth control, stealth me, rape me, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 07:26 PM
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What criticism have I earned? Other than the fact that you think I have failed to take accountability by virtue of the fact that my husband and I have two children. This means that I can’t acknowledge that it took a real physical toll on my body. Women are blamed for having children when we do, because we should have been more discerning, and blamed for falling birth rates when we don’t. Everything is always women’s fault. And honestly, I wouldn’t have a kid with a guy who treated me like that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:48 PM
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The fact that you can take a post about women’s physical risks in pregnancy and make it about how it’s unfair that some random stranger thinks you’re ugly tells me all I need to know. You’re aggressive and self centered, and you hate women. Those are not attractive qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:30 PM
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Only because you did first. Your argument that women are bad because they choose men who are good looking completely ignores the fact that the system is designed to give men more power
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:01 PM
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Maybe blame men for men’s actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:35 PM
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You have been making this about yourself. Don’t put that on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:35 PM
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Source: https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2018/about-half-us-abortion-patients-report-using-contraception-month-they-became
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:28 PM
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So you’re not a nice guy, and women should choose better than you and take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:26 PM
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So women need to take accountability for men committing sex crimes against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:26 PM
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Do you know what stealthing is? Also, women have been conditioned for millennia to please men. The gender that demands submission is now angry when women submit?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:21 PM
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Do you think women reject you because women are superficial? Because you come off really angry and bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:20 PM
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How can a woman be held responsible for a man not pulling out?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:11 PM
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Half of abortions happen after a couple uses some form of birth control and it fails. I notice that the famous gender of accountability is first to blame women for men stealthing them or refusing to pull out after they said they would
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:47 AM
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Shit tests sound like the sort of thing that bored teenagers would do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:53 AM
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I’ll tell you again: meet lots and lots of people. Get together with friends. Encourage them to bring their friends. Find people you like and meet people they like. Eventually you are going to meet someone you might be interested in dating, who seems to like you back
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:41 AM
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Nope. Sounds like you wish I was and am complaining that I’m not. Are you very worried about your future because nobody wants you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:50 PM
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I mean, the young men I know in real life (I have two teenagers and they both have friends) are nothing like what you describe, and my kids aren’t stereotypical jocks/cheerleaders either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:31 PM
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Okay. Enjoy being alone. You obviously achieved your goals
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:12 PM
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No, it’s because men on this sub are antisocial weirdos
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:09 PM
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So what actions by women are acceptable then? Are they only supposed to date ugly guys with no money?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:08 PM
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Do you not know what a study is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:07 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:06 PM
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It’s not a study
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:19 PM
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This is an ad, not a study
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:12 PM
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Do nerds who get STEM degrees and make tons of money have high social standing? Or just guys in finance who look like Alec Baldwin in Glengarry Glen Ross? I feel like you guys really live your lives in a paradigm dictated by boomer-created pop culture. As the young people say, touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:09 PM
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I’m not going to catfish random women, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 10:02 PM
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Do you not understand the concept of sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:44 PM
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How is being attracted to an attractive person hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:32 PM
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I think men not on this board are better than men on this board
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:32 PM
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It’s amazing how we women who don’t understand men can manage to have such successful relationships when men who understand “true female nature” are all incels
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:20 PM
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He said, with no evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:15 PM
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Women aren’t complaining about the loneliness epidemic. We’re laughing about it. We’re not the needy, lonely ones
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:15 PM
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Okay. But that doesn’t leave us much time to be your bangmaids. Enjoy your loneliness epidemic. Just took my teenage daughter to tour another engineering school today
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:56 PM
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Or maybe you just like the person. Not everyone is into the same guys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:29 PM
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So you think dating is just like high school? So weird
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:29 PM
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When women describe this scenario, people say “he’s just not that into you.” And they mock the woman for being undesirable. When men experience this, it’s because women are evil and superficial for liking someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:27 PM
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That’s not true anymore. The data on that is more than 10 years old when almost nobody was using apps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:24 PM
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So women are bad when they’re committed to a guy because they’re really into him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:23 PM
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Don’t approach every age-appropriate woman whom you find reasonably attractive and ask her out. That’s weird. Meet lots of people and find someone you really like who appears to like you back
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:17 PM
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You literally blame us for taking all your resources and for supporting ourselves. The problem is that you just want to hate women for everything. Women are not the ones complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:01 PM
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Men are not doing a very good job at it. If they wanted to step up and help women with the essential unpaid labor that women do, including childcare, they could save humanity. That would require treating women like humans, though, and most men don’t want to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:53 PM
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The thing is, I’m a middle aged woman married to a man. We have two kids. He doesn’t see the kids as being only my problem. That’s why he’s in a relationship and you’re not. It’s important to note that you blame women for literally all choices they make. Have children: motherhood penalty, sapping men’s resources. Don’t have children: responsible for the downfall of the human race through falling birth rates. Women are not bound by options where men can vilify us no matter what. We have the choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:46 PM
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The thing is, I’m a middle aged woman married to a man. We have two kids. He doesn’t see the kids as being only my problem. That’s why he’s in a relationship and you’re not. It’s important to note that you blame women for literally all choices they make. Have children: motherhood penalty, sapping men’s resources. Don’t have children: responsible for the downfall of the human race through falling birth rates. Women are not bound by options where men can vilify us no matter what. We have the choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:46 PM
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You’ve told me that the only way for women to compete with men in the workplace is to not have children, because fathers who work are not going to take on more parenting responsibilities. So, women have to take care of themselves to avoid being gold diggers, so no kids it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:33 PM
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Okay. Don’t whine about “muh birth rates”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 05:12 PM
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Well, we still need to work on the motherhood penalty
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:03 AM
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You should try to overcome the barriers and get a job
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:02 PM
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Because shitting on women is their only hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:25 PM
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The majority of graduates in accounting, dentistry, veterinary medicine, nursing, optometry, pediatrics, obstetrics/gynecology, dermatology, and law are women. Do you think they don’t make money? I mean, they don’t make as much money as men who have been in those jobs longer, but the tide is turning
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:00 PM
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Okay. Find a woman who’s willing to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:14 PM
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Labor participation by young women is higher than young men. Young women graduate college at higher rates than young men and make more money than young men until the motherhood penalty slaps them down. Single women own houses at a higher rate than single men. Feminism has obviated the need for women to use men for resources. You’re welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 01:09 PM
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Yes. And redpill is stupid and destructive. You said so yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:52 PM
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No, because you’re saying that I am framing my philosophy in opposition to yours. I just chose not to validate your nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:25 PM
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Blue pill isn’t a thing. It’s just not being in the cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:28 PM
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So you did redpill and it wasn’t right but was right? You’re so close
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:06 PM
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Same. There’s an argument out there that men who are really into anal sex, specifically in porn, don’t want the women to enjoy it too much, and her actually liking it becomes a turnoff. I don’t watch a lot of porn, but it is my understanding that women in videos featuring anal sex don’t act enthusiastic about it, and the videos are often violent. Having sex-negative views of women often stems from having generally negative views of women. A lot of men resent the fact that they are sexually attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:05 PM
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I joked the other day that I experienced astral projection. When it’s good, sometimes it’s really good
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:46 PM
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Oh, that sounds like you did it wrong. I’ve never skydived, but sex is better than roller coasters
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:28 PM
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So it’s kinda sad that you’ve been abused by too many partners. It gets better when you’re with someone who likes you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:26 PM
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My body count is 10. I have been sexually active for more than 30 years and have had sex thousands of times, including 22 years with the same partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:20 PM
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However, a lot of online content for men says that women wanting to have orgasms is unfeminine. Specifically, there’s a viral video of some Kevin Samuels wannabe claiming that if women are climaxing, they’re trying to be the man in the sexual encounter. There’s also a meme comparing women who demand to have orgasms every time to be like Fiona from Shrek, while women who don’t care if they have orgasms were compared to Disney princesses. Most recently, Clavicular has gone on record saying he does…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:18 PM
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Why are you lecturing me about sex when I’m older than you and have probably had way more sex than you? Hookups don’t have to be abusive. Also, what makes you think that I am having unemotional sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:02 PM
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Because a significant proportion of men don’t care if women have orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:01 PM
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Sex is not naughty Orgasm is possibly the most intense physical pleasure that humans are capable of. What led you to this conclusion? I genuinely can’t see the train of thought behind this question
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:45 PM
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Personally, I would be really uncomfortable if a guy took me somewhere really expensive on a first date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:41 AM
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I never said it was for no reason. People have reasons. Those reasons are not always transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:59 AM
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This is somehow bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:42 PM
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If a woman told you she was single and happy, would you believe her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:56 PM
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Right. You got rejected and you’re bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:54 PM
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Because redpill men see children and family as only benefiting women. That’s why we prefer beta simps. They have good jobs, share resources, and don’t think it’s compromising their masculine principles to make us cum
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:44 PM
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Why would it benefit women? I will remind you that I have everything I want and you have nothing you want
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:42 PM
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Oh. What’s the benefit for me in that? My husband married me because he liked me and I wasn’t a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:00 PM
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Oh, so you are run through and used up. But seriously, you’re lonely and bitter, with no girlfriend. You think you’ve discovered the secret, but you have nothing and I have everything. Maybe take more advice and give less
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:51 PM
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I don’t think OP understands that sometimes people just like each other
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:59 PM
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No woman I know has had a man turn her down because she wasn’t a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:47 PM
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But you aren’t with her now? How long did the relationship last?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:47 PM
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So you feel like an injustice is being done to you because attractive women exist in public and are not having sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:42 PM
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I disagree. I have been more sexually open in long term relationships where I can be fully myself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:38 PM
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Okay. How has this worked out for you? I love when misogyny results in men living terrible lives. It’s like a little morality play
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:27 PM
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You said men won’t marry non-virgins and women want to get married. My experience in the USA is that most men don’t care if a woman is a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:26 PM
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So I wouldn’t mind dating, but I probably wouldn’t have children. Supporting children is a lot harder when you don’t have a second person to help you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:31 PM
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You really don’t understand math
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:17 PM
1

I didn’t have trouble getting married as a non-virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:15 PM
1

Explaining to misguided men that they could have a better life if they just listened to women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:13 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:55 AM
1

Most women don’t even have casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:52 AM
3

The consequences of falling domestic violence, lower divorce rates, and a closing orgasm gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:45 AM
1

Those criticisms are mutually contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:43 AM
1

I’ve been married for 21 years. People still have the option of being married
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:39 AM
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In the past, marriage was just a veneer. People cheated all the time. Now people are honest. That’s measurably better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:37 AM
1

There’s always the option to not date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:36 AM
3

Financial hardship leads to higher suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:26 AM
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Only when women do it apparently. Women are required to be virginal and also immediately sexually available
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:25 AM
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What do you mean? Is it better for failed relationships that end in divorce to exist? The percentage of marriages that end in divorce is falling rapidly, indicating that a lot of the people who used to get married probably shouldn’t have
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:24 AM
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Women are simultaneously too picky and hypergamous and have collapsing standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:12 AM
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Disgusting to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:11 AM
5

Again, people practice higher rates of fidelity. There’s a strong belief among young people that cheating is abusive and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:57 AM
5

Market leverage against what? Men have lower employment participation than women. Do you think it’s better for a woman to be alone or supporting a video game addict with no job?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:54 AM
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So? Is it better if people break commitments and lie to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:50 AM
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Maybe that’s better? The marriages that shouldn’t exist don’t exist? Why is this not an indication of relationship stability? It’s certainly an indication that people aren’t imposing commitment on relationships that aren’t stable enough to warrant it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:40 AM
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You know, young people get divorced and cheat on their partners less than previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:22 AM
0

No, you always want us to know your opinion of us, but nobody actually cares
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:59 PM
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We’re typically talking to each other. You don’t have to listen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:47 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:45 PM
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Okay wallow in misery, but it’s your own fault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:22 PM
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I don’t need you to like me. I’m already married and have been for more than 20 years. If you’re choosing to be alone, maybe find something else to do than hating women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:11 PM
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So you want to be an incel because liking women is distasteful? Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:47 PM
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So you’re going to expect all women to sleep with you right away, and if you like them, they’re girlfriends, and if you don’t, they’re sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:14 PM
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I didn’t marry a murderer. My husband is a nice guy. Maybe ditch the incel content and go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:12 PM
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Bitterness is unattractive, sweetie. I never had trouble marrying a nice guy. Sounds like you’re not nice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:55 PM
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So it’s literally no advantage to any woman to have sex with you. Every scenario is a conduit towards you devaluing her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:53 PM
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So you want women to be objects for you to use and have no autonomy? If women aren’t attracted to you, that’s your problem, but maybe your attitude has something to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:05 PM
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But nobody cares. Men are always sharing their opinions that nobody asked for
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:03 PM
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So women who have sex right away are only good for ONS unless you really like them, but women who don’t have sex right away aren’t attracted to you? But a woman who is only good for ONS ( which she doesn’t actually know because you don’t tell her directly) is trying to get men to like her by throwing her body at them? It sounds like you want all women to be immediately sexually available to you, so you have the right to tell them that they have lost value by being with you. What’s in that for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:53 PM
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They all seem to know that women did (X) with previous boyfriends but won’t do it with the guy who commits to them. So you believe that women who have no value are ONS material, but you think these women should be immediately sexually available on the first date? Redpill influencers claim that women who won’t have sex on a first date don’t actually like you. Do you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:40 PM
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So he wants women to be sexually forward so he can use them and discard them? Also, what paradigm do you guys live in where everyone you know has intimate knowledge of what every woman did with all her past boyfriends, but you have routine chance encounters with people you will never see again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:33 PM
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This is clearly a bad faith argument from a guy who hates that women sometimes stay at home with children. Most of us couldn’t give less of a shit if you and your partner work out that it’s better for you to stay home. I know multiple men who have stayed home while their wives worked
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:01 PM
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Literally nobody cares who you date. We just don’t want to hear you talking about it when nobody asked
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:44 PM
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So women are wrong for having “the ick” but also wrong for questioning you when you do the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:35 PM
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It’s not etiquette. It’s a failure to logically prove your point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:05 PM
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If women on dates are demanding to know why they should like you, end the date. And have some self respect. I never had to ask my husband what he brought to the table, and he never asked me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:04 PM
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Literally nobody cares if you reject women for any reason. You just don’t need to make it your only hobby to trash them all day. Also, asking people what they bring to the table is weird. If you don’t like them, don’t date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:53 PM
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So you hold women in contempt if they have sex too quickly? I thought redpill taught that that women who didn’t have sex right away weren’t interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:39 PM
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No, another poster did. But you keep telling people to google things to prove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:37 PM
1

Literally you keep asking for everyone to prove your argument for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:25 PM
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Imagine a man being told by women that his personal instincts about things being unappealing should be overridden. This would never happen. You just don’t like women’s autonomy,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:23 PM
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When men tell women that it’s wrong to be superficial, and women who have sex with a lot of men lose value as human beings, why are men surprised when women want to get to know a guy and actually decide if they like him before sleeping with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:30 AM
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My husband literally comes in the door every day (or comes downstairs, usually, since he mostly works from home these days) and complains about nonsense from work, like literally almost every day. I have been his sounding board for more than 20 years. The difference is that I have the empathy to realize that people need to vent about the stupid stuff about their jobs, and they need someone to listen. I complain about work, too. So if you can’t be emotionally supportive without holding your partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:23 PM
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I married a non-redpill man. He cries at movies and I love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:31 PM
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Since when do men comfort people? Like, seriously, imagine a man bringing dinner to a friend’s house because they had a death in their family
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:17 PM
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I’m Jewish and that’s really offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:27 PM
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You’re wrong. Shared custody is often a thing these days
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:40 AM
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They can file for custody if they want it. Most men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:50 PM
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I don’t think that most women think it’s abnormal for men to watch porn. The issue is more how much and what kind
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:11 PM
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50% of environmental engineers are women. The majority of people graduating from dental school, optometry school, pediatrics, obstetrics, dermatology, veterinary medicine, physical therapy, etc., are women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:00 PM
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If women stop wanting to have sex with you, it’s a skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:12 PM
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You really fantasize about hurting women, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:25 PM
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I have not engaged dishonestly with anyone. I assume you’re cool with women cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:24 PM
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Women don’t “pull a bait and switch.” I get that you hate women and assume they’re out to get you, but usually they’re just really exhausted with babies and an unhelpful husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:23 PM
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Most men get opportunities and don’t cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:57 PM
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I’m 50 and I don’t think I have a lower libido as such, but I notice fluctuations a lot more. Either I want sex a lot or not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:56 PM
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How do you know what my libido is? You would likely be surprised. All I know is that I hear women talk a lot about being exhausted and/or physically recovering from childbirth, and men demanding sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 03:51 PM
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Citation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:24 PM
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It’s literally every post talking about how women are staying at home and spending men’s money, or claiming that women work stupid and easy jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:55 PM
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Nonsense. No woman outside of your TikTok algorithm is telling other women to leave a man because he’s short. Women might tell other women to leave a man who’s financially irresponsible or doesn’t have a job, but not merely to leave for someone richer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:53 PM
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Again, the fascist propaganda marketed to young men suggests otherwise. I agree that office jobs are better than working in coal mines
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:48 PM
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They should get divorced if the person they are with doesn’t want to sleep with them and they still want to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:47 PM
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I’ve been married for 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:46 PM
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Do you read this subreddit? Men are all working 80 hours a week while women stay home or do easy jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:48 PM
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I don’t think it’s a put down. Men are the ones who act like working a desk job at a company owned by someone else isn’t work, because they associate it with women, but a lot of men work those jobs too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:47 PM
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Approximately 1 in 4 engineering graduates are female in the USA and that number is rising
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:46 PM
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I’m literally on college visits with my daughter who wants to be an engineer, and the numbers of men vs women on her tours have been about equal. My husband is an engineer, and both of his subordinates are women. There are a lot of young women going into engineering
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:30 AM
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That doesn’t mean that a person is obligated to have sex every time their partner wants it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:11 AM
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Redpill men tell me all the time that men should leave their partners for younger women. Also, those vows were written in the Victorian era and are not in the bible
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:57 AM
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But you have children because you want them. They don’t choose to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:48 AM
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If you are offended by the idea of caring about a person beyond their utility to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:45 AM
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This might be why women don’t like you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:57 AM
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It’s kind of amazing that men think this is women’s job, to center their lives around what’s best for men. Has it ever occurred to you to center your life around what benefits other people over yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:10 AM
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Obviously. I just find it extremely amusing that a lot of guys on this forum are claiming that most men are either toiling away on oil rigs or making millions as entrepreneurs, both of which are harder (supposedly) than the jobs that women are doing as nurses or teachers or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:54 AM
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On an individual level, women don’t need men as partners to survive. When women say they don’t need men, this is what they mean
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:51 AM
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Honestly, I don’t think it’s like that. People change over time. Hormones change, and feelings change. It’s rare that people stop having sex without the reason having to do with their feelings for each other, but being busier and getting older might make people have sex less often
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:42 AM
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Cheating is distasteful because you engaged in dishonesty. Also, it’s distasteful to leave someone when they’re sick
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:39 AM
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It’s not wrong to leave a person who wants sex so often it actually makes you unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:28 PM
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You’re not entitled to someone else’s body. They have the absolute right to refuse sex at any time. They also have the right to marital fidelity in the terms they agreed to in their marriage. What they don’t have the right to is to remain in a marriage where their partner is unhappy. If they don’t want to have sex very often, and their partner wants to have sex more often, their partner has the right to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:27 PM
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You said the only way you can benefit from women is to socialize with them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:12 PM
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It’s a meme in incel circles. I have seen threads on this board about it. Normal men in my real life do not say this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:11 PM
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Not in my observation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:10 PM
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The percentage of women in STEM is increasing rapidly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:18 PM
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I have been told that men created civilization while women sat back and benefited
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:16 PM
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Women’s, too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:15 PM
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Why do you think women produce nothing that you can benefit from? Women are the majority of dentists, optometrists, accountants, veterinarians, etc. have you never had clothing altered or bought food from a restaurant?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:15 PM
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Top of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:49 PM
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Most of those men are being supported by their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:48 PM
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I don’t think good women are underrepresented here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:47 PM
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So just to clarify, not putting you down, but you work a desk job for a company owned by someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:42 PM
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This is such nonsense. More than half of men become fathers, and the labor force participation among young women in the USA is higher than the labor force participation of young men. What’s in it for women to have sex with men they don’t want so those men can tell them that wanting orgasms is unfeminine and their value diminishes from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:15 PM
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If you want kids, you have to step up and do everything you can to help your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:13 PM
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My daughter is 17 and her boyfriend is 5’5”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:14 PM
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It’s fascinating that you say this knowing nothing of my history. Multiple alpha men on this sub have called me a slut and my husband a simp for marrying me because I traveled and had more than 3 sex partners before I met him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:13 PM
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Very few women have onlyfans. Lots of men patronize onlyfans though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:45 PM
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So you’re saying my faithful and nurturing husband is a bad husband because he didn’t slut shame me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:44 PM
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Maybe get to know and like some people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:08 PM
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I’m with my husband because I like him and he likes me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:02 PM
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Give a number
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:01 PM
2

So you want them to have sex with you before you know them or care about whether they enjoy it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:53 PM
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How many sex partners do you think “modern women” have?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:52 PM
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When my husband and I moved in together, I made him find a shelf for his records instead of storing them in milk crates. I called his aesthetic “early American dorm room.” He was almost 26 and it was time to grow up. That said, there’s something between needing a mansion and wanting to live in a nice environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:47 AM
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Men see women as objects, and it’s hard to be rejected by something that you don’t see as having agency
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:44 AM
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But you don’t care about any of them as people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:42 AM
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I was not a virgin when I met my husband
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:24 AM
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What kind of sexual past is required? How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:42 AM
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Why would you want to lock someone down? I met my husband when I was 28, and we’ve been together 22 years because we like each other. Why not find the person you really like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:24 AM
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If women are so terrible, maybe avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:00 AM
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Most men do get this. Women aren’t dependent on men for money anymore. If they’re with men it’s because they like them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:07 PM
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The men who “crave femininity” are craving girlishness. They don’t believe older women can be feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:52 PM
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So you’re whining that you can’t have sex with an unending stream of beautiful and anonymous women whom you don’t care if they orgasm and then judge for being devalued. What’s the incentive to want that? Cultivate lots of friendships and meet a woman who likes you and stop whining. It’s not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:55 PM
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I don’t have casual sex. Men whine that women are pushing them into relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:52 PM
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You guys claim we lose all worth by having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:25 PM
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We don’t want men who are worthless though. This is why I married a beta simp who is fun to be around and likes to have interesting conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:56 PM
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Men are whining about this right now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:54 PM
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What’s the incentive for women to have sex if men don’t care if they enjoy it? This is why I married a beta simp. He shares his resources, stays committed, and makes sure I cum every time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:53 PM
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My husband likes me and I have great relationships with my friends. You’re not disadvantaged because you’re a man. You’re just an unpleasant individual who’s bitter and aggressive towards people he doesn’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:12 PM
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You struggle because you’re an unpleasant person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:48 PM
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You literally said women are trying to use you for money
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:10 PM
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My husband is successful in ways that you’re not, and he’s not tall or particularly fit. He’s just an interesting person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:56 PM
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Oh, I define my value by my accomplishments, my contributions, and my social success. I don’t sit around talking to men about how the world us unfair to women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:51 PM
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Again, you guys tell me that my only value is looks, youth, and sex. I could mention my happy marriage, my college degrees, and my career, but none of that matters to men, except for beta simps like my husband who’s proud of my achievements. I could brag about my kids, but kids are something that women force on men and trap them into
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:34 PM
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I just don’t see this sweeping phenomenon of women bleeding men dry financially, especially as women achieve greater equality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:28 PM
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Oh, you must be so busy with all the women who you’re talking to. Oh wait… When I was your age, I was married and had 2 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:19 PM
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You seem really angry about women potentially using you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:18 PM
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Unlike you, I only have one account and I don’t watch TikTok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:54 PM
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I find a lot of things about myself valuable. Men on this sub repeatedly tell me that men don’t care about my education, career, or personality. I don’t need you to tell me about how I should change myself because I literally have everything I want in life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:46 PM
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Good thing you’re staying away from those evil women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:19 AM
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So you’re having trouble finding people who are interested in you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:48 AM
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That’s odd. Where do you find that? I have only ever seen women say they want men to do their equal share
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:56 AM
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I mean, not the good ones, but yes, the men on this board believe that women should be servants to men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:24 AM
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No. You’re perpetuating a really stupid abuse fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:36 PM
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No, you’re not taking revenge because you don’t have a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:32 PM
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Because it sounds like a typical male revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:25 PM
1

I think you’re lying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:27 PM
1

And yet you’re lonely and bitter because you don’t get to abuse women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:24 PM
1

Manosphere influencers tell failure men that it’s a common practice for women to be very adventurous with Chad and then expect their husbands to endure boring and sparse sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:18 PM
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This weird shit is why women reject you and I don’t feel bad about it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:10 PM
1

So maybe explaining to women what feminism is isn’t a great strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:32 PM
2

So the best she can give you is to be an abuse victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:06 PM
1

So you want to replicate a failed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:05 PM
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Oh, right. Don’t worry about women liking you with that aggression
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:03 PM
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Because you want to punish her for past mistakes and, let’s face it, probably anally rape her
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:02 PM
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I am a feminist and you do not. Feminism is the idea that women are just as much human beings and entitled to the same level of self-actualization as men. That doesn’t obviate the reality that babies come out of women’s bodies, and having children means caring for children. You can still be a feminist and come to the conclusion that paying more than you make to a daycare center isn’t worth it, and taking a couple of years off to take care of your own kids will bring your family more peace. Or no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:01 PM
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Be careful, the men here will call you a beta simp
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:51 PM
2

Maybe you don’t understand what feminism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:48 PM
2

Maybe all women who advocate for themselves are not actually misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:36 PM
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I did a larger proportion of the chores when I was a SAHM and he had a long commute.That changed when he started working mostly from home and I was teaching full time outside the home. I was a SAHM for 6 years when the kids were little. I also cooked and did laundry for my husband’s sick father and took him to appointments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:33 PM
2

Exactly. Older women are clearly misandrists because we love our husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:29 PM
1

Oh, couldn’t be me. My husband’s awesome because I’m one of those man-hating misandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:22 PM
1

You were married? You aren’t now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:14 PM
2

Wow, you really don’t like her much at all. My husband never blamed me for the fact that it made sense for me to stay home for a few years to take care of our kids, because we were a team and it made sense for the both of us to have me at home with the babies. Now they’re grown and I work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:13 PM
2

Did your wife demand that you support her as a stay at home wife? Why did you agree to that if you hate it so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:56 PM
2

Are you single?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:36 PM
4

I’m married to a guy who does laundry. Are you single?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:34 PM
17

I agree men don’t want traditional women. They want women who are immediately sexually available, pay half the bills, AND do all the housework
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:27 PM
1

Maybe she learned that she should no longer tolerate mistreatment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:49 PM
4

For what it’s worth, I also disagree with treating women like goddesses on pedestals. However, I don’t see it as putting women on a pedestal to pay for their plate of pad Thai
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:45 PM
1

I broke up with him after he called me stupid once. Why do you want to mistreat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:44 PM
1

So I briefly dated a guy once whom I broke up with because he called me stupid. This means my husband is entitled to call me stupid? What if he doesn’t think I’m stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:39 PM
2

By “good at it” you mean you’re strategizing on how to use and discard women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:36 PM
1

No, I imply that a lot of the bitter lonely men crying about sexual injustice through female autonomy are terrible people. You seem to think men are in the clear for deceiving women about their intentions, but you hate when men are kind to women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:30 PM
1

Male loneliness epidemic says otherwise. Also, there’s another thread on this board begging men to stop simping for women they date. So maybe you just want men to be more cruel to women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:22 PM
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Men don’t magically become better people just because they’re less attractive. It’s possible to say that you value integrity over looks, but lacking in looks doesn’t make you have integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:12 PM
4

Wow, you make men sound terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:11 PM
3

The good outweighs the bad because we like each other
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:40 AM
11

I think it’s great when women split the bill. It’s a power move when a guy whines that he deserves casual sex for all that he did for her. This isn’t about paying for someone’s burrito bowl. It’s about how you fantasize about being unkind to women while also claiming women reject you for your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:36 AM
3

You guys want women to want less from men because you actively hate the people you want to have sex with. I have seen both of the phenomena I describe, putting down women for enjoying sex and glorifying women who are worthy of raping. Of course, women after rape are regarded as ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:33 AM
3

And the woman. People in general can be difficult to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:28 AM
1

But you want men to be actively less nice to women. Women will respond by not needing men at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:26 AM
4

You see liking a woman as a disadvantaged position for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:47 AM
10

You said that liking a woman means enduring nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:29 AM
9

What does that have to do with OP saying that men shouldn’t pay for dates? OP just literally told me that all men who like their partners have no choice in the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:28 AM
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If you think that liking women is nonsense you might be the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:26 AM
2

Are you suggesting unhappy marriages don’t exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:25 AM
12

By “pedestalizing” he means showing women any kindness whatsoever. He deserves the life he has
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:27 AM
5

This is such pathetic rationalization. A narcissist pretending that the reason they have no friends is that they’re too good for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:51 AM
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My husband would disagree, but he actually likes me. If you demand to know what someone brings to the table, you don’t understand what it means to have someone like you and have likely never experienced being liked by anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:38 AM
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No, but OP wants to mistreat women. He’s against giving them any positive attention
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:37 AM
11

It’s not a matter of disagreeing. You’re upset that men are too good to women so you can’t get laid. This doesn’t affect me at all. It definitely affects you, though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:14 AM
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Or maybe your attitude means you can’t attract anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:58 AM
5

Wow you’re so misandrist /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:33 AM
3

We love guys like you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:32 AM
6

Women always chose men who shelled out cash. That’s literally less necessary for women than it has been in all of human history. These guys are acting oppressed because they have no be pleasant company.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:32 AM
7

What he said still stands? Boo hoo some men date women because they’re nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:21 AM
7

So you’re talking about casual sex where men don’t care in women cum and also believe that it diminishes women’s value? Gee, why is nobody signing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:20 AM
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Remember, these are the same men who try to convince women that it’s unfeminine to want to have an orgasm, but taunt them with the insult that they’re not pretty enough to rape. They want women to expect to be raped more than they expect to enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:19 AM
8

Markets that are overvalued eventually crash. What’s in it for women to get men who demand more and aren’t even nice to you? When women can support themselves, the option to live without men is always there. What’s the point of having a man in your life if they actively make your life worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:17 AM
2

Read the writings of Tia Levings
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:12 AM
10

In fact, feminists often talk about paying for their own meals on a first date so men don’t pressure them into sex because they paid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:10 AM
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This is men who want to mistreat women upset that some men are nice to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:07 AM
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Name specifics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:59 AM
5

It’s not a false dilemma or false dichotomy. It’s an actual contradiction that women face
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:34 PM
4

That’s not what false dichotomy means
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:17 PM
4

Having sex on a first date is casual sex and is unsatisfying for women because the men who engage in it don’t care if they enjoy it. Those same men will tell women that the act of sex on a first date has devalued them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:37 PM
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No, I’m saying you don’t want to commit to a woman you have just met, but you want her singularly committed to you so that you have absolute right of refusal and she does not. You can accept that you will go through life collecting experience, but a woman is supposed to sit around and wait for you to show up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:15 PM
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Not a valid comparison. Men on this board are always telling me that men want women for sex and will pretend to want relationships when they don’t in order to trick women into having sex. A more apt metaphor would be a boss who requires work from an employee before paying them because they know there’s a very real possibility of the employee stealing their wages and not working at all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:04 PM
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No it doesn’t. Women who are in relationships typically have more and better sex than women who are hooking up. Casual sex partners don’t care about women’s orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:00 PM
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Right. She needs to be available to you and nobody else. Otherwise she has no value
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:58 PM
18

Male solipsism
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:57 PM
1

Your point is that you rush to devalue women as human beings when they act in their own interests in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:57 PM
1

It’s not a dichotomy at all. Women are expected to be mutually contradictory things that are impossible unless men are totally solipsistic and don’t see women as human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:46 PM
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They want to treat women like sex workers that they don’t pay
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:14 AM
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Women should be virginal as well as immediately sexually available, and they should always hate themselves. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:11 AM
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What do you mean by female supremacy and special treatment? Women generally like men who are truthful and treat them like human beings. Are you saying that it’s too much for women to ask for men not to only pretend to like them so they can use them and discard them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:39 AM
1

Right, so you can’t defend your position
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:57 PM
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I don’t have your posting history memorized. If you opened it up to searching, I’m sure we could find you saying some pretty terrible things about women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:58 PM
1

What have I said that was vile?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:55 PM
1

You think I’m angry, hateful, and vile? I’m just bored. I really don’t invest as much effort into this as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:44 PM
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I mean, you guys say that, but the fact is that most people who have what you want don’t bother interacting with people like you because they consider you not worth the trouble. My husband tells me that I’m never going to change your minds and you’re not worth the effort. But hey, I’m stuck in a town an hour away from my house while my teenage daughter works at a day camp, and it’s too rainy to go enjoy the outdoors today, so while I have nothing better to do, pointing out your self-contradictio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:43 PM
1

Oh, so the happily married people who engage with you aren’t normal and the incels are normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:31 PM
3

Is it because they’re actually in relationships and not making hating women their hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:21 PM
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What’s misandrist about saying that men need to work harder at actually being likeable when women aren’t desperate? I’m happily married. The “bluepill” guys here are usually in relationships because they aren’t engaging in some imaginary power struggle with women in their heads all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 03:18 PM
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Divorce rates are plummeting because the people who just got married by default aren’t doing that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:57 PM
4

You can’t get emotional intimacy without commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:49 PM
2

I’m a unicorn because my husband is short and doesn’t go to the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:07 PM
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Well, my husband and I like each other. It’s easier to do more with two people together. For a long time, you guys have told us that there’s no incentive to have relationships with women because we don’t make your lives better. If you feel that way, don’t be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:17 PM
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Marital rape was legal in the 1990s but the white feather movement is your thought terminating cliche?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:56 PM
3

The White Feather movement was begun by a man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:55 PM
1

So you have zero examples
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:59 PM
2

Judaism is not just a religious faith, though. It’s a tribal identity. You can reject Judaism and still be identified as a Jew (I’m also Jewish)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:59 PM
2

Which ones support their views?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:53 PM
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Women protect women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:46 PM
5

We don’t count though, because manosphere influencers say differently
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:45 PM
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What women? Got any feminist influencers that suggest men should support women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:44 PM
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Because I have read feminist literature and know feminists. Manosphere guys who never leave their homes have a very different impression of my own life than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:33 PM
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So you can’t cite any instances of feminist philosophy that expect men to finance adult women’s lifestyle. You just made that part up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:32 PM
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They absolutely do. What feminist author says otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:24 PM
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I’m real, and he probably just assumes stuff about her if she even exists
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:23 PM
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No, you just don’t know any feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:15 PM
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No it’s not. Feminists work and contribute to household expenses. You just see her purchasing the children’s entire wardrobe as her “fun money.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:12 PM
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That’s interesting. I’m a feminist, and all of our money is our money. We don’t separate our finances at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:07 PM
1

But when women are with attractive men, you get really mad and say they should pick nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:58 PM
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Assuming that women are either status hungry, gold diggers, settling, or a combination of the above 3 is assuming they’re superficial and awful. You give women no possible option where she actually likes the person she’s with
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:32 PM
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This is the typical “heads I win tails you lose” logic of manosphere men. Women are always superficial and awful, and all of their choices are always wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:13 PM
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I’m sure there are some women like that. That’s not what they’re talking about though. Texting back someone that you like is assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:43 PM
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Poor men, doing the jobs that actually make the money
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:23 PM
1

No? The wife wasn’t going down to the docks with her children in tow to get her husband’s money
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:07 PM
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No it didn’t. It’s a grift designed to keep men paying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:49 AM
1

Negging is passive aggressive, not assertive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:40 AM
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Nope. Often men would get their paychecks and go to the saloon and drink and gamble most of their money away, leaving their families to starve
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:13 AM
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That’s not assertiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:02 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:04 AM
3

Maybe men can be better
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:58 PM
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Plus child support and some alimony if she doesn’t have the ability to go back to a career. The law is designed so women won’t be devastated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:58 PM
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True, but the law says that she’s entitled to a fair division of assets. Even bank accounts in his name are half hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:39 PM
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This is obviously absurd and mocking women, but as a person who was a SAHM for 6 years, let me explain: SAHMs do unpaid labor that makes our partner’s lifestyle possible. We don’t need pay, because the point of being an SAHM is that it’s really hard to be an effective employee when you have very small children, and it’s also really hard to make enough money to pay for the childcare for multiple children who are under school age. We don’t need to be paid, because our role is to save money, not ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:41 PM
2

Nothing about the article suggests choking. The article is about passionate desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:52 PM
2

So you don’t understand what good sex is about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:10 PM
2

Okay. You figured it out. How many men are unwilling to, say, finger a woman or go down on her? What does the manosphere say about those men (hint: Clavicular has openly stated that he doesn’t care about women’s orgasms and I think Myron Gaines has said the same thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:46 PM
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You’re saying that women are more sexually attracted to dangerous men because they’re more sexually attracted to dangerous men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:44 PM
2

It doesn’t turn me off when my husband cries
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:43 PM
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They’re fantasies nonetheless. Things that aren’t real are interesting to read about. I absolutely love the character of Peter Pan, but he’s an asshole. You have failed to prove your second paragraph and no amount of continued circular logic will get you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:31 PM
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I don’t know. I didn’t read it. But here’s the thing, again, a woman reading a hot book doesn’t spontaneously reach orgasm. She has to do something that brings her to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:30 PM
2

Because reading about people having sex is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:26 PM
1

They really don’t though. Huck Finn and Pippi Longstocking sound like great fun in the books, but I bet you wouldn’t be friends with them in real life when you were a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:24 PM
2

Boo hoo. Everyone should be assertive because it’s a positive quality. What’s wrong with choosing someone who has positive qualities? Shouldn’t we choose better?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:20 PM
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No, the men who give women orgasms are the ones who are willing to engage in physical activities that bring women to orgasm. You’ll understand if you ever have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:14 PM
2

Hot isn’t the only thing that you should look for in a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:08 PM
0

What is your opinion of people who whine that it’s unfair that they should eat healthy to be healthier?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:07 PM
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Those same guys would argue that your boyfriend was actually simping on a different thread
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:04 PM
2

It’s only to everyone’s benefit to advocate for themselves. There’s literally no downside to being politely assertive, and women encourage that quality in other women all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:44 PM
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Thank you. These guys are something else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:31 PM
2

No, it really doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:29 PM
3

What men? There’s a male loneliness epidemic because women are over this nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:28 PM
5

Anyone with any sexual experience knows that sex is not an innate skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:16 PM
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You’ve come to these conclusions with no evidence because you haven’t dated. You have decided that you are a nice person (remains to be proven) and therefore women who don’t want you must want terrible men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:15 PM
1

As a fictional character. He’s the uneducated woman’s Heathcliff, but that doesn’t mean we would want to know someone like him in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:13 PM
0

Christian Grey is a fictional character
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:08 PM
8

Assertive is a positive quality. Women like assertive men. Those men can also be very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:06 PM
3

Oh, so you’re making up random shit or regurgitating your toxic online algorithm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:05 PM
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Why do you think nice men are not good in bed or lacking in testosterone? You guys tell us it’s beta for men to care about women’s orgasms and unfeminine for women to want them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:04 PM
4

Do you experience this in your own life with your wife or girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:02 PM
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Assertive and nice are not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:01 PM
2

Oh, totally, and I particularly like watching people who understand good fashion critique bad fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:52 PM
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He just wants to punish the women who won’t sleep with him by not supporting the children he doesn’t have
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:33 PM
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Fair, but the whole “women only care about fashion and reality tv and instagram likes” cliche only applies to a small minority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:31 PM
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Then block me and go back to the women whom you can’t get to sleep with you even when you pay them. Personally, I married a guy I like so I fuck him for free
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:25 PM
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If my husband didn’t improve my life in any way (including with his witty personality) what would be the point of being with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:23 PM
7

She doesn’t like you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:19 PM
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I believe that’s what most men on this sub are saying. They want to force women to act in men’s best interests and not in their own best interests
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:16 PM
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What’s not a scam about sugar dating? It’s paying someone to pretend to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:14 PM
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Yes. You don’t like women’s right to refuse you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:13 PM
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Are you suggesting women shouldn’t be free not to choose a man who is interested in them but whom they are not interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:08 PM
12

The only issue you name specifically is expecting men to pay. Man have traditionally paid for dates, long before social media existed. In fact, women on social media often tell each other to not let men pay so they don’t expect sex on a first date
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:07 PM
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Maybe don’t expect women to care about you as a person if you’re looking to buy a “better” woman with money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:05 PM
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If you find all women vapid and inane, you are a misogynist. Before you make comments about reality TV, I don’t watch it, my daughter doesn’t watch it, and none of my friends watch it. What are women doing that’s so incredibly vapid? The women I know have diverse interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:23 PM
0

It’s not a personal attack. If your availability heuristic is limited to your algorithm, you’re going to have a warped view of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:13 PM
1

Maybe actually meet people outside of lurking on Reddit boards and being mad about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:43 AM
2

I have not observed this to be the case. People who are not social typically don’t date much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:10 AM
4

Women made most pottery, too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:35 PM
6

Slaves weren’t obligated to do any of that either
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:24 PM
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Men somehow built everything while women were doing the totally useless work of feeding and clothing everyone and raising all the babies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:22 PM
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Redpill men tell me that men aren’t interested in children and commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:20 PM
1

And yet, it can still be financially worth it in the short term
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:18 PM
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Slaves are also given room and board. I’m not saying that being a stay at home parent is slavery. I did it for 6 years. But I am saving that merely giving someone a roof and food isn’t enough to obligate them to do everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:15 PM
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Uh, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:13 PM
2

Oh, I do all the cooking and most of the shopping. My husband does the laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:15 AM
8

I’m not your therapist and am genuinely not qualified to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:12 AM
7

The very fact that you say this is insulting to people who have faced actual systemic discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:45 AM
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You’re not a victim of discrimination because people don’t want to sleep with you. You have the same legal rights. The likelihood is that you’re normal looking and people don’t like this creepy whiny shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:11 AM
6

I teach chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:07 AM
5

You don’t have a right to someone else’s body. Who’s acting like a victim? Not me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:07 AM
0

Incel speak is really gonna get the ladies lining up around the block
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:58 PM
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I don’t see daily posts from women about how men need to change here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:57 PM
11

People are allowed to not like you. Stop pretending to be a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:57 PM
8

Most guys on this board are repulsive to me without even knowing what they look like because they’re just not very smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:33 PM
1

Okay. Enjoy life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:12 PM
1

The fact is that you want to force a bunch of people to live the way you want because you want women to never spend men’s money. Good thing you’re going to stay lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:06 PM
1

It’s a lot cheaper to take care of kids adequately at home. You just want to force parents to put kids in daycare because you want to force parents to have separate finances
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:02 PM
1

Except that really only happens if they’re in upwardly mobile career tracks which suggests once again that you think the poor shouldn’t be allowed to have children at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:55 PM
1

You literally said that people should be working for pay if they want any money to spend on anything, despite knowing that it’s often more cost effective for women not to work when they have small children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:43 PM
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And keeping it straight takes work, and therefore it’s a chore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:42 PM
3

Sure, but if you don’t stay on top of purchases, you risk people not having enough stuff and having to pay more for it. Good purchasing takes planning
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:14 PM
1

No, you’re not thinking of arrangements that benefit women. You’re purposely seeking to punish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:11 PM
1

Often both parties working is less cost effective than one working, especially before children are old enough to go to school. So you’re saying that families shouldn’t be allowed to make cost effective decisions because it might result in women spending men’s money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:05 PM
1

You said the person making the money got to keep the money. So a wife staying at home can shop for food for the children but not for herself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:00 PM
1

Often it’s more cost effective for one parent to stay home and provide childcare than it is to put kids in daycare, but you’re saying that a person caring for children at home should have no access to the family money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:49 PM
1

So children are the privilege of the upper middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:37 PM
3

Okay. Make sure that the kids have a backup wardrobe for when they suddenly outgrow all their clothes, and make sure you score all of it on sale so you don’t go broke
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:13 PM
1

You think two people working part time can pay for daycare?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:45 PM
1

Usually one parent has to work daytime hours. You sound very young, like maybe still in high school, if you think planning and finances are easy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:44 PM
1

If parents can’t afford daycare because daycare costs more than one of their salaries, they can’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:49 PM
2

So you think paying for daycare is easy for multiple children under school age?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:48 PM
1

If she’s doing work that’s necessary but unpaid, presumably she will not be making as much money despite working as hard
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:47 PM
2

Because presumably she’s doing work)cooking, cleaning, childcare) that’s not being paid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:40 PM
2

So the husbands of those women don’t get a genetic legacy because you’re so committed to the idea of children being raised in daycare?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:33 PM
2

What about if one parent is spending nearly their whole paycheck on childcare, work wardrobe, transportation to work? Should that person continue to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:29 PM
3

Exercising total control over the finances of your partner and also obligating her to pay for household expenses out of money you control
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:24 PM
2

So you want women to have children, do the housework, and pay the bills? No wonder they aren’t lining up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:13 PM
3

You’re fantasizing about financially abusing a wife you don’t have
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:11 PM
2

Who will buy groceries and necessities for the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:10 PM
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If a woman is taking care of tiny children, is she not working? You guys tell us that this is the most important job for women to do. Also that it’s easy and worth nothing. Do you believe that men should not allow women to spend any of the money they make outside the home on things for the family? The wife and children can’t get new clothes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:09 PM
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I decide what food to buy because I do the cooking. I base my decisions on what is on sale or in season. Where do you get the idea that shopping isn’t work? If you think women don’t deserve that level of control, do it yourself. I used to have to grocery shop and run errands with two little kids in tow. I would park at the back of the supermarket parking lot near the train tracks because my toddler son would be entertained by the trains while I nursed his baby sister. Then I would cook dinner fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:02 PM
9

They already do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:27 PM
1

Why does it hurt you if a man likes a woman you find unattractive? I don’t have dating problems. My husband is awesome. Maybe if you were more like him you could get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:09 PM
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I’m amused by watching young men impale themselves on the patriarchy instead of being nice to women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:17 PM
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I’m not saying I care, I’m saying that the men who go in for manosphere content are looking to blame women for everything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:31 PM
1

You seem very angry that some men are dating women who are not models
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:26 PM
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Your attitude is the minority in manosphere circles
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:25 PM
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I’m a short, nerdy woman married to a short, nerdy guy. People on this sub say he’s oofy doofy and I married for betabuxx. What would have been the correct choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:50 PM
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No, I think men are better than they ever have been, but this sub is full of men who refuse to be better
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:19 PM
2

If women are happy with their own standards, they’re not going to change their behavior just because you don’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:58 PM
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Oh, no, my husband does my laundry. I do the cooking. But you’re acting like the only point of men having a partner is for domestic labor. I’m with my husband because I like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:51 AM
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You’re really angry about having to do your own laundry, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:45 AM
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Literally women are graduating college at higher rates than men. Women are not looking for men to support them anymore. Men are whining that they have to do their own laundry
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:38 AM
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Certainly not all women cook, but plenty do. Literally anyone can clean. Why do men act like the only point of women is to be domestic servants?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:31 AM
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Yes, but those aren’t redpill men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:00 AM
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I cook, and both of my teenage kids cook. One is a boy and one is a girl. Cleaning isn’t hard, but it’s work. It’s a choice to do it. Why wouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:58 AM
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What did women offer in the past that they don’t offer now? Women still cook, clean, and take care of kids, but there’s nothing in it for women to be servants for men when women can earn their own money . Also, maybe if you didn’t have such naked contempt for women, you would be more successful with women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:47 AM
1

As a woman who is probably old enough to be your mother, why do you think young women should listen to you? Berating women isn’t going to make them like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:16 AM
5

Divorce as a percentage of marriage is also declining
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:05 AM
1

I’ve been married for 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:28 AM
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I guess you’re the expert. I’m just the dumb woman in a successful marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:13 AM
1

And feelings about the other person are part of it. You can’t force that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:51 PM
0

Great. The way is clear. Go your own way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:24 PM
1

Good news, you don’t have to listen to someone who’s whining because you rejected them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:13 PM
1

Oh sorry I misunderstood
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:21 PM
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Well, if you are in a relationship with someone where you are committed and cohabiting, you spend a lot of time together. That’s really hard to do when you don’t like the person
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:19 PM
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Yes. You mischaracterized my argument with a massive straw man claiming that I said that the only way to work hard is with a college degree. I see that logic wasn’t one of the courses that you pursued in your elite university
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:44 PM
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I don’t think I’m unusual. The world I see outside my door is more like my personal reality than like the convoluted incel rationalizations of this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:41 PM
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No, it’s not. It’s about the fact that fat women deserve to exist without public shaming and abuse, and that they aren’t obligated to spend all their energy on hating themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:40 PM
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Not what fat acceptance was about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:24 PM
3

You don’t think it’s normal to like other people’s company?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:19 PM
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Exactly. It might hurt my feelings a little bit, but it’s 100% on me to get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:18 PM
5

Women prefer to read smut
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:17 PM
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90% of guys are cute enough to talk to. Maybe 5% are interesting enough to say yes to a date with. Fewer than 1% are compatible enough to consider a relationship with. My reaction to seeing my husband was “cute and my type.” My reaction to having my first conversation with him was “I need to keep this person in my life in any capacity possible.” Luckily he felt the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:16 PM
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When you see women as objects, their autonomy is very inconvenient
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:12 PM
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Nothing you cite indicates that lack of physical attraction is what makes men undateable. The paradigm shift is coming from men not being ambitious enough to bother with and women not needing to be supported by men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:54 PM
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Why do you think that women are single because they don’t find men physically attractive? The studies didn’t say they aren’t going on dates. It just said they aren’t in relationships. Most single women are reporting that they are not dating because they are busting their butts with work and school while the men they meet are potheads who play video games and live with their parents. Why do young women owe young men like that their time and effort? All that for an orgasm gap and men complaining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:48 PM
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I’m not sure it’s not normal for people to have non-monogamous relationships. There is evidence of them existing throughout all of human history
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:40 PM
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Why do you assume women’s standards have nothing to do with how they are treated? Standards encompass everything, not just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:33 PM
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I was specifically comparing liberals who are more likely to be college educated vs. conservatives who are more likely to be high school dropouts. You were the one taking the position that being a high school dropout wasn’t less work than being a college graduate. You are arguing alongside people who claim that college is unmasculine and only effeminate liberal men go to university. Maybe evaluate the company you keep and stop being so angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:27 PM
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If your choice is single vs. being treated badly, why should they choose being treated badly? You guys tell women to take accountability and choose better. They are choosing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:23 PM
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You don’t have the right to demand that someone love you, but it’s not normal for people to have no capability to form close relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:00 PM
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That’s messed up and I don’t have to validate it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:45 PM
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Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:59 PM
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If you found college easy, you didn’t go to a good college. Scholarship is supposed to get more difficult the farther you get into it. Most trades in the USA require a high school degree and probably an associate’s degree. After that, you do an apprenticeship. You can’t just drop out of school and start doing HVAC repair the next day. I’m very knowledgeable in my content. I teach chemistry, which requires a whole college degree in chemistry. It’s my intention this fall to go back to school and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:23 PM
1

Okay then quit. Do you want them to cry and beg you to come back?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:14 PM
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Getting a college degree is hard work. Dropping out of high school and working at Dollar General is a lot easier. I teach high school, and minimum wage jobs are like crack to teenagers: they’re easy, and they get more money than they have ever been able to earn before. Meanwhile, school is hard and full of things like history papers and algebra 2 exams, and you don’t get paid. Some kids start pouring most of their energy into their after school job, because the instant gratification is such a do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:55 PM
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Yes, but it’s not because women are rejecting liberal men. It’s because almost all men are conservative in southern states
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:51 PM
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That’s ridiculous. You think when a guy says “sorry, I’m busy” or “you’re not my type” or “I just don’t see you that way” society denies him the autonomy to turn down a date? I’m not talking about a woman existing in public while fat and having random strangers screaming abuse at her, which happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:47 PM
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You’re confusing availability heuristic and confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:06 AM
1

What argument specifically did you find baby-level?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:47 AM
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Women don’t always expect men to make the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:03 AM
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When women get rejected, the media tells them to change everything about themselves. When men get rejected, there’s a male loneliness crisis and women need to stop being picky. Maybe try to attract the people you’re interested in mating with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:02 AM
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What do you characterize as specifically masculine that is unlikely to be liberal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:48 PM
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It’s attractive to intelligent women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:47 PM
1

That’s a self-contradictory statement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:46 PM
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Yes and an uneducated populace is easier to control
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:28 PM
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I mean, it’s literally the foundation of fascism to glorify that. Good thing I’m Jewish and we prefer scholars
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:05 PM
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So educated fields are inherently feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:55 PM
1

Making assumptions about me doesn’t help yours either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:24 PM
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I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:50 PM
1

But you claim women want benevolent sexism but refuse to give examples
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:47 PM
1

Right. But I think that a lot of the sexism of the right is aggressive and not benevolent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:46 PM
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I don’t think you understand what it means to be a smart person as much as you think you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:44 PM
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Okay. But to be fair, I have no doubt that you feel like women are inherently less intelligent than men, especially when they act in their own interests
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:32 PM
1

And you think women like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:11 PM
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Yeah, but a bunch of online incels who think they’re more masculine than you want you to know you’re a simp, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:08 PM
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So my experience is that the men most preoccupied with masculinity often don’t practice benevolent sexism. They regard benevolent sexism as simping and are more likely to demand that a woman pay for her dinner on a first date if she’s not interested in having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:02 PM
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Interesting. My husband and son are both really into fix it projects including cars, and both are liberal. My husband really likes watching baseball.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:53 PM
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In what way is liberalism unmasculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:52 PM
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So computers are unmasculine. What about academia and hard sciences? The Republican administration is cutting funding to research, so most cutting edge scholars are more liberal when in previous decades they would have been 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:51 PM
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I know what it means, but you have failed to connect it to women preferring conservative men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:48 PM
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Seriously. Liberal men are more likely to have college degrees and conservatives are more likely to have dropped out of high school
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:18 PM
1

In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:17 PM
1

And she would be turned off if she knew you were in pain, too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:11 PM
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And you’re talking about expecting a woman to do things sexually that she doesn’t enjoy, specifically for your benefit. This isn’t like my going to watch independent league baseball with my husband so we can spend the day together.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:10 PM
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What about the way conservative men act do women find appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:08 PM
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Are liberal women struggling? From what I have read, conservative men are struggling because liberal women won’t date them. My husband is liberal and we have been married for 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:07 PM
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I’m saying you don’t have to be a martyr about this. And asking women to do something painful isn’t adequate payback
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:52 PM
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Okay. This is why you can’t get a date. If you are a virgin and already fantasizing about how the woman you don’t have owes you the use of her body for things that she finds unpleasant, you don’t value consent and deserve to go unchosen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:43 PM
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You literally could do something else, like use fingers or a toy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:56 PM
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How are you sacrificing during sex for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:08 PM
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Why are you acting like you are an expert on something that you have no experience with? The good part about sex is that you’re mutually enjoying something with the person you really like. It’s not about someone gritting their teeth and forcing themselves to make a sacrifice for you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:42 PM
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I just don’t believe that you know this many details about the sexual practices of people that you’re not currently in a relationship with. I literally have no idea what men whom I am not sleeping with are doing in their bedrooms, and I don’t want to know. Why are we supposed to think it’s normal that everyone in the friend group knows what your girlfriend did with her former boyfriends, or that your ex comes to you with regular progress reports about her new guy? People do stuff they like. If t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:05 PM
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Why is it wrong for women to not choose men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:19 PM
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Women have the agency to leave bad marriages. Why are you crying about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:17 PM
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Most women don’t have casual sex, and feminism has resulted in a reduction in abuse towards women. Adults have to do chores. If men refuse to do them, women nag or do them themselves. And women also have the agency to leave a bad partner who isn’t cooperative
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:14 PM
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This is the whole point though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:51 AM
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The reason women reject you is not because you’re short
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:43 AM
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The word is standards, not standers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:33 AM
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My husband is short. He doesn’t use the term White Knight either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:16 AM
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Because he made up the whole thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:15 AM
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I find this hard to believe. Most people are in relationships with people closer to their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:14 AM
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Why is it a problem if men are rejected and birth rates drop? World population is artificially high because of 20th century technology that ended the child mortality crisis. The population can stand to shrink.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:13 AM
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Why isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:11 AM
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You think men being drafted has anything to do with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:14 AM
1

Why is this a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:14 AM
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To be fair, I think he actually blames all women, not just some woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:56 AM
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Maybe you should meet some people in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:54 AM
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Most men in most western countries don’t actually care about these things, there hasn’t been a draft in the USA in more than 50 years, and most men get shared custody if they ask for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:41 AM
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If men can’t be better and instead just fear women having equal rights, then maybe some men need to go unchosen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:30 AM
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I am not deleting your comments. I enjoy shooting fish in a barrel. Admin thinks you’re not being nice enough to me though. Reiterating my point: if you genuinely think that women are stupid and lose value as human beings as they age, you will continue to fail at interpersonal relationships. If you want to have female company in life, you need to learn how to like women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:09 AM
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I literally have a genius level IQ. I love when you guys think that men are inherently smarter than women. It’s such a nonsensical argument
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:34 PM
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Okay. Blame everyone for your problems. It doesn’t hurt me. Gotta go cook dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:33 PM
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If you think a woman who has everything she wants is to be dismissed because she doesn’t have value as a person, this might be why you’re alone and rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:28 PM
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What does my picture have to do with anything? I’m a moderately overweight 50-year-old woman. Other than gaining weight, I am aging pretty well. I have very little gray hair, my hair is still thick and healthy, and I don’t have a lot of wrinkles. My husband is a nerd like me, not tall and doesn’t have a gym bod. We’re very happy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:27 PM
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Also, in answer to your comment that got deleted about why I am here if I’m married and happy: this is a board about dating strategy. As a person who has gotten everything she wants in a mate, I think I have a lot to offer in terms of expertise on this subject. The fact that single bitter men will only listen to other single bitter men is amusing, but ultimately their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:18 PM
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Source: every thread on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:14 PM
4

I’ve been married to my favorite person for 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:41 PM
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We know what we want, but a lot of men don’t don’t respect us enough to listen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:14 PM
0

I don’t think she owes him damages, but he might have cause to be upset if she doesn’t have a logical reason to think maybe he’s cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 08:15 PM
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Enjoy your life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:27 PM
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You can have an STI and not know and not have done anything wrong. If you randomly asked a partner with whom you had been exclusive for a while for an STI test, you’re accusing them of cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:21 PM
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It’s an extra level of delulu to think that the people you should listen to are single men who hate women and not women in stable relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:19 PM
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It’s implying reasonable suspicion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:31 PM
1

Bad faith arguments contradict themselves. The point is always to vilify women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:13 PM
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I am only going by what redpill men tell me themselves. It’s very hard to understand redpill if you attempt to approach it as a coherent philosophy, because it’s not. It’s a bunch of self-contradictory rationalizations to justify hating women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:47 AM
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Divorce rates are falling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:21 AM
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My grandfather left my grandmother in 1952 and didn’t give her money. Redpill says that it’s understandable that men will turn in their wives on a younger model and shouldn’t be expected to pay child support because men don’t want children anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:21 AM
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Counting your change is in response to potential human error. It’s not possible to commit paternity fraud by accident
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:18 AM
1

When your non existent wife pushes for non existent child support after your non existent divorce, have at it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:16 AM
0

Most PPD women are in stable relationships and most PPD men are incels
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:15 AM
2

Maybe stop assuming women are duplicitous and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:44 AM
1

But the men on this board whine at the idea of getting to know women first. The person I was responding to said apps were for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:54 AM
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You guys are looking for a woman you don’t get to know very well, have sex with, and never see again. Most women aren’t interested in that dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:39 AM
2

Shockingly, most women actually enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:58 AM
2

You don’t have to justify yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:39 PM
2

Most women can do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:39 PM
2

Maybe they should stop treating women like objects
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:38 PM
4

He means that if you’re really active on this board, it somehow invalidates your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:49 PM
0

I’m married with kids and friends and a great life. Just hugged one of my former students at the supermarket
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:38 PM
2

I live a very normal life. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:32 PM
2

The normal people who can’t get a date because they wallow in incel nonsense all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:28 PM
4

No it’s not, because paternity testing requires analyzing the DNA of two people and PKU just tests the baby. You aren’t required to get prenatal genetic disease testing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:24 PM
8

This is what I’m saying! Nobody wants to waste taxpayer dollars, especially when it’s always legal to refuse medical testing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:22 PM
2

It’s a million degrees out, I’m going to a concert tonight, taking my daughter on a college visit tomorrow, and going to pick blueberries on Thursday. I think I’m good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:12 PM
4

Theoretically, but also somehow not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:10 PM
8

Exactly. I can totally understand doing a test if you know that you’re not exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:10 PM
3

It’s selfish to expect that my husband should trust me if he wants to be married to me? Okay. I’m still happily married and the guys on this board telling me to change my behavior still can’t get dates. I don’t think your opinion should matter to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:07 PM
1

I think it’s abusive when people check their partner’s phone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:02 PM
6

Assuming she wasn’t raped or in a non-monogamous relationship, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:57 PM
2

What do you think raises suspicion? Having male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:50 PM
2

Told him to go fuck himself and divorced him. Of course he wouldn’t have done that. He’s a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:48 PM
6

Nope. My husband trusts me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:42 PM
6

If you don’t want people to respond to your comments on a public forum, maybe Reddit isn’t for you. Have you considered journaling?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:41 PM
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What’s weird about saying that I didn’t get a paternity test for my children because I knew I wasn’t cheating and didn’t want to waste money? You said that any woman who would object is obviously low quality. I just didn’t want to spend $200 on something that wouldn’t have taught us anything we didn’t already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:38 PM
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Not if the father is abusive. Refusing to trust your partner despite the fact that they have given you no reason not to trust them is abuse. It’s a common tactic among abusers to accuse someone of lying or infidelity so that they are constantly jumping through hoops to prove themselves to you. And it makes it much easier for unfaithful partners to get away with infidelity themselves, because the other partner is so put off that they don’t want to emulate that behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:36 PM
4

Let me guess, you’re a libertarian? I didn’t get tested because I knew I was faithful and had no doubt about my child’s paternity. Why waste the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:28 PM
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Questioning paternity is questioning fidelity. If you already doubt your partner’s fidelity, the relationship is already over
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:14 PM
5

The state is never going to agree to this for multiple reasons. 1. You can’t force people to have a medical test that they don’t want, so most couples will just refuse. 2. It’s a lot of money for the government to spend on something that people don’t want. 3. It will likely result in more children receiving less support from private citizens and more from the government, which people will object to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:07 PM
4

Those were my standards in college. When I was looking for a serious relationship in my 20s, I added on, “can you take an adult level of responsibility for yourself?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:04 PM
7

So you don’t want women who don’t look like models, so you assume women don’t want their husbands. You’re so close. A therapist would really help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:02 PM
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But more than 20% of men are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:29 PM
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I’m an average looking woman married to an average looking man, and we desire each other
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:19 PM
3

So women have to be hot but it’s wrong when women like hot men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:11 PM
5

I definitely am not, but don’t you guys claim that all women have their choice of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:52 PM
2

Now you understand why women are scarce on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:49 AM
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And you can’t act like someone else owes it to you to be attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:56 PM
5

She sucks. Stop answering her calls
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:18 PM
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It’s definitely rude to expect a guy you went on a few dates with to help you move, but if you aren’t interested in her, why are you dating her even sparsely? And you should have just said you were busy. I don’t think this is a true story, because it sounds like revenge against women who tell you that you aren’t entitled to their bodies. Most people agree that you don’t owe things to people whom you aren’t close with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:07 PM
2

How do women reciprocate supporting men in their struggles when men claim women have no struggles at all? Don’t we live life on easy mode?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:11 PM
2

You guys are condemning women for not dating the guy in OP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:31 PM
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So you’re saying women are just stupid and have bad character judgment? Gee, why aren’t they rushing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:56 PM
1

There is no reason to compare them. OP is looking to exonerate himself for one by saying he doesn’t do the other
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:56 AM
1

Men blame women for both
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:53 AM
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Because the contradiction isn’t mine. Women are always simultaneously having too much and too little sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:44 PM
2

You guys literally tell us emotions are beta and the only thing that men find attractive is looks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:43 PM
1

Why can’t you spell college?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:42 PM
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Some women sleep with players. However, when they don’t, men continue to condemn them, which is proof that their actual behavior doesn’t really matter. Men will hate women no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:48 PM
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Of course it’s not about what women should do, it’s that your goal is to condemn women no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:16 PM
1

You seem very sex negative, like there’s something wrong with women having good sex, and it’s a man’s entitlement to want good sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:41 PM
2

But you seem angry that I enjoy sex with him
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:15 PM
2

I think my life turned out just fine, dating around until I met the guy I liked best
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:10 PM
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So you condemn women no matter what. Why should women care what you think if you’re going to vilify them no matter what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:01 PM
3

Again, you want more women to sleep with the guy in your OP, but say that women lose value from liking sex. What’s the right path for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:49 PM
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So no matter what women do, it’s wrong. They’re supposed to be immediately sexually available but vilified for liking sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:43 PM
2

But the point of the post is that women are too picky
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:27 PM
4

I thought he was objectively a sex god?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:23 PM
3

Which makes me a bad person why? I wanted him because he was smart and funny. He still is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:22 PM
4

This guy was on apps for 6 months and got no matches because women are so picky and evil and don’t want the sex hound
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:05 PM
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Oh, I’ve been married to a nice guy for 21 years. I have never been interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:04 PM
6

You literally tell us that it lowers our value as human beings when we have sex. Why would we be interested in a guy who wants to pump and dump?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:59 PM
5

Okay. One of us gets laid regularly and it’s not you, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:50 PM
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I’ve been married for 21 years to a guy who reads books and makes me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:48 PM
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You just come off as really unpleasant. Also, I know I’m smart. Insulting me won’t win this for you. I’m married to a smart guy who makes me laugh. He took me birdwatching by the coast today, and now I’m at the independent league ball field while he collects signatures from players who might make it into the majors someday. Neither of us look like we belong on the cover of a magazine. We’re really happy. Learn to be likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:22 PM
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So women are both obligated to make it easier for them and also bad for making it too easy for them. What’s the correct course for women to take?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:19 PM
5

You come off as angry and bitter, and not particularly interesting, and I don’t know what you look like
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:07 PM
8

I wouldn’t find that guy interesting. I like a guy who reads books and makes me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:05 PM
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Right? Women aren’t interested in fuckboys
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:59 PM
8

If you think this way about most women, this might be why they don’t want you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:49 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:31 PM
5

Maybe the women who look like you prefer smart men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:31 PM
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So your issue is not that you can’t get women to pay attention to you, but that you think you’re too attractive for the women you attract
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:04 PM
2

So you think you should be dating the fat women? Or you don’t want the fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:39 PM
1

I know at least on married couple that met on tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:32 PM
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My husband is a short, chubby guy, and we’re married 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:58 PM
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Leave your house and look around: men who don’t look like cover models are dating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:19 PM
1

Generalized abuse towards women because you’re offended that they have autonomy is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:14 AM
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I don’t need to compare and say one is worse. Both are bad. Making generalizations about people is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:27 AM
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What’s in it for women to go out with a guy who treats her like a sex worker that he doesn’t have to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:26 AM
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It’s got nothing to do with rejection. It’s pointing out the paradox that men expect women to be virginal and also immediately sexually available
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:24 AM
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Both are bad. Cheating is abuse. It doesn’t absolve misogynistic behavior from non-cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:17 AM
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Two things can be bad. One being bad or worse doesn’t mean the other one not bad. Saying “women are horrible because they won’t date me” is toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:13 AM
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Do you think most men worked jobs that required reading? That’s charming. Women were not allowed to learn to read, even wealthy women. It was regarded as immodest
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:17 AM
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Great attitude. You should marry a man who really gets you. Don’t settle for someone who makes you feel like you can’t be all of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:21 AM
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Story time: I was teaching in China, and the Australian guy I had been dating broke up with me in the middle of our vacation in a backpackers town with a bunch of his coworkers. 11 of us were sharing 2 hostel rooms, and I couldn’t get away from anyone. They went off to one bar, and I went to a different one. The host of the bar gave me free beer while I played Lucinda Williams songs on the bar’s beat up guitar and felt sorry for myself. I was listening to a guy talk about all the traveling he ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:28 PM
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Story time: I was teaching in China, and the Australian guy I had been dating broke up with me in the middle of our vacation in a backpackers town with a bunch of his coworkers. 11 of us were sharing 2 hostel rooms, and I couldn’t get away from anyone. They went off to one bar, and I went to a different one. The host of the bar gave me free beer while I played Lucinda Williams songs on the bar’s beat up guitar and felt sorry for myself. I was listening to a guy talk about all the traveling he ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:28 PM
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Because they made it impossible for women to do otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:48 PM
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Not all eras were Ancient Rome. In 16th century Venice, women were barely taught to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:22 PM
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No, a lot of men want a woman who has no power to leave
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:21 PM
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Good thing you won! No, seriously, I’m not interested in a bad faith argument about how women are evil and want men’s money but want freedom. Marriage is a partnership. How equal it is depends on the people involved and what they demand as their rights. I am lucky in that I married someone who loves and respects me and doesn’t see me as something akin to a maid who submits to sex. The entire premise of the OP, which you did not address at all, is that the only reason to marry is to make divorce …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:56 PM
1

Incel is more than just a guy who can’t get a date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:30 PM
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So femcel doesn’t actually mean anything except woman that incels hate because she points out their nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:04 PM
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Good thing women don’t want you then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:03 PM
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You assume they’re arguing in good faith. What they really want is the power to ruin women like men used to have. Ruined women had no choice but to be thrown out on the streets and eventually succumb to disease and starvation while society blamed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:56 PM
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But I get called femcel all the time and I’m married and not celibate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:45 AM
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Boring lives are good lives. When you get your first girlfriend, you’ll get it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:39 AM
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What’s a femcel?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:37 PM
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To be fair, manosphere bottom feeders are not like normal men. But yeah, the whole “make me a sandwich” joke just typifies how much some men think women are there to serve men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:36 PM
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I mean, personality matters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:59 PM
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I have never witnessed a woman demanding this, and it mathematically only constitutes less than 1% of the population. My daughter’s boyfriend doesn’t meet these criteria. Neither does my son, who is a college student and has dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:56 PM
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Women don’t believe 6/6/6
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:27 PM
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You’re not, though. Committed partnerships aren’t inherently oppressive to women if both parties view labor as non-gendered. So feminism isn’t the reason you can’t get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:26 PM
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Yes because I’m a connoisseur of manosphere nonsense. I have never heard of it outside of online male influencer cult content and critiques thereof
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:09 PM
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I know, right? Such a terrible boring life. I obviously secretly wish I was being treated terribly by Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:00 PM
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Okay you got me. I had to take my daughter to a driving lesson this morning, and now I’m getting her a calzone while I make appointments to collect signatures to get local candidates on the ballot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:09 PM
1

Right. And you cited them without reading them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:21 PM
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The sources you cited failed to prove that men are not getting the custody they are seeking. You would know this if you had bothered to read them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:07 PM
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I have had way too many men on this sub tell me that it’s oppression to expect them to get out and make friends
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:51 PM
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My life isn’t terrible though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:50 PM
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It’s a manosphere myth. I have never heard of a woman saying this is a requirement for her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:38 PM
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If she’s that bad, let her go
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:37 PM
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I read through the fourth, which is full of spelling and grammar errors. It never addresses the question of fathers being denied custody of their children except in the cases of primary custody when both mother and father are seeking primary custody. Nowadays, the paradigm is usually shared custody. The fifth is also outdated, not mentioning shared custody, and also not mentioning cases where fathers are denied having time with children that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:33 PM
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Those people don’t leave their homes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:23 PM
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Not a real thing. My husband is not 6 feet tall, doesn’t have a 6 pack, and didn’t start making 6 figures until we’d been together for more than 10 years. Multiple influencers (SpeechProf and others) have done the math on this and come up with the conclusion that fewer than 1% of men meet these standards. More than 1% of men date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:23 PM
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My husband is a nerdy engineer and I am utterly besotted with him. We’ve been married for 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:10 PM
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This guy is hiding bills from her to the point that he got their car repossessed. People are allowed to leave if they’re not happy. I don’t think she sounds like she made this decision lightly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:09 PM
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Hey, you sound like a misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:49 PM
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Laws change. Old data is not relevant. I will read the other two later. I have to go out in a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:15 PM
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3 of those are more than 20 years old and no longer even relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:49 PM
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If your life is so terrible, why do you tell women that they are the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:54 AM
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What I mean by improve: someone who makes my life better with his presence. He needs to at least be an interesting person whose company I enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:03 AM
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Okay yes, that’s happened
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:03 AM
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It’s not that at all. I push back on people who act like experts on things that they know nothing about, like how to have successful relationships when the don’t date. Or what women want when it’s nothing like what I or any of the women I know want, and the person claiming this special knowledge isn’t a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:58 AM
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I have an egalitarian marriage and narcissistic family whom I don’t speak to. I don’t want my mother and sister having more rights to my shit than the guy I have shared a bed with for 22 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:55 AM
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I’m sure your algorithm tells you that happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:26 PM
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Google it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:45 PM
1

Bluepill isn’t a cult, so “bluepill influencers” are just normal relationship influencers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:43 PM
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Most men don’t want this and fight against joint custody
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:09 PM
1

You weren’t in their bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:53 PM
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You’re speaking authoritatively about something you have never experienced
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:02 PM
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You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:54 PM
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I think you’re making a lot of assumptions about your friends’ sex lives. There will be periods of time when the kids are not sleeping through the night and you’re lucky to have the time and energy to have sex 2-3 times a month. And that’s even with a strong relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:51 PM
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How often you have sex with someone does not necessarily equate to how much you love them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:44 PM
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Were you working a full time job? Did you have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:41 PM
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Have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:36 PM
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And not at all points in life. When I was younger and less busy, I had more sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:26 PM
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It’s not 0 sexual interest. It’s more often a combination of a lack of privacy and the decision to prioritize sleep
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:26 PM
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It’s a hypothetical that doesn’t apply to anything or represent a greater truth. The point of a hypothetical is to establish an ethical framework or express a subjective opinion on a truly subjective matter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:24 PM
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If you have small children, there’s not going to be sex 2-3 times a week. Kids are exhausting. Meanwhile, our youngest goes to college next year, and we’re looking forward to having the house to ourselves. It’s a documented phenomenon that empty nesters often go through a period of increased sex after kids move out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:10 PM
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Are you sure? Men on this sub whine all the time that LTRs are universally bad for men. Also, the reality of a good LTR is usually somewhere in between. Life is busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:47 PM
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So you portray long term relationships as unfairly mediocre to bad, and hookup sex as servile on the woman’s part where she’s offering unreciprocated oral sex. You have created a scenario where conditions are unfairly put on one side to make it bad, and conditions are unfairly too generous on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:41 PM
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But then you also reject the entire premise of the OP. I have been married for 21 years, and we have sex usually about 1-2 times a week still. Sometimes we have “I’m tired but I want to get off as quickly as possible” sex, and sometimes we have really exciting sex. It’s never unsatisfying or bad, though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:26 PM
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Oh, in that case I pick a LTR where the sex is better and more frequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:24 PM
1

What facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:21 PM
2

Okay, but you have to add the last detail. It’s a hypothetical. What’s the validity of it as a hypothetical? Have you ever heard of a restaurant like that? Is that typical for restaurants?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:21 PM
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Well, you can create any hypothetical, right? Would you rather have a homemade meal made by someone you know, or a restaurant meal? Assume the restaurant meal is dog shit and broken glass. The obvious answer is that nobody would choose dog shit and broken glass. The question is, how valid is the question when one side is so heavily weighted towards the negative? My experience is that long term relationships tend to result in better and more frequent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:17 PM
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That’s a big assumption that sex in an LTR is infrequent and so-so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:04 PM
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No. That is a modern invention
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:39 PM
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I didn’t say it was forced. However, what might benefit a couple as a collective unit might benefit one party at the expense of the other separately. I stayed home with my kids for 6 years and then went back to school. It hindered my career as an individual, but it benefited our family as a collective unit, including saving us childcare expenses, giving me time to take my father-in-law to doctors appointments when he was suffering from a terminal degenerative illness, giving me time to cook from…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:14 PM
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First of all, only approximately 7% of divorcing women and 3% of divorcing men in the USA collect alimony nowadays. Secondly, a parent doesn’t put a child into a position of doing unpaid labor at the expense of a career. Children can’t really have careers anyway. Thirdly, this has nothing to do with prenuptial agreements, which are decided on by married couples before marriage. Children do not ask to be born. This analogy makes no sense in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:32 PM
0

The boo hoo woe is me crap is super annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:29 PM
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You’re not interesting enough to win anyone over with your personality. My husband is short and doesn’t have a gym bod. Last night we went on a date where we got sushi, talked about local politics in our little town, and watched an independent movie about baseball. It’s not your looks. It’s that you’re angry and condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:18 PM
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I can see why women don’t want you. You’re obviously unstable. Who kills gay men in hate crimes? Not women. Who stigmatized divorce? Not women. Women would rather be alone than being treated like literal slaves. You are trying to portray yourself as a victim, but you keep putting women down, which suggests that you view yourself as superior to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:05 PM
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They’re not. But unless they get a lot better, women are going to choose the bear. Remember that among the most common causes of death to young women is murder by an intimate partner. A significant minority of women experience sexual assault by men, and basically all women experience sexual harassment by men. And that’s just the really monstrous behavior. We’re not talking about things like the fact that women in cohabitating relationships do more housework than they do when single, and men in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:35 PM
1

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:18 PM
2

Women started getting autonomy, but men kept treating them like they owed them sex and servitude on demand. It worked out badly for men. Go ahead, tell me how I should get back in the kitchen and make you a sandwich
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:09 PM
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There are roughly equal numbers of men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:00 PM
2

But your friends say you don’t put yourself out there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:59 PM
2

If you think that women’s collective reputation is the problem, I don’t wonder why you’re single and rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:59 PM
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It’s more that women have the option now of not choosing at all. Single women are no longer social pariahs, dependent on extended family or menial labor for support. Men have to actually improve their lives to be worth considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:53 PM
2

Okay. Go ahead and punish those evil women. That doesn’t come off as bitter or misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:47 PM
1

Oh, interesting. I would never date a guy like you. I like smart guys who have their shit together and aren’t wasted all the time. Glad it worked out for you though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:44 PM
2

No, you whined and height preferences and whined about spending money, and you also whined about women not actually valuing personality. Pretty sure you just hate girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:42 PM
2

Then don’t date. I literally don’t care. Why are you coming on this board spewing hatred towards women? What is it getting you in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:38 PM
2

You’re * I don’t owe you anything. I’m just pointing out that it might actually be your own fault if you struggle with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:32 PM
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Everyone has the autonomy to make choices. You just made some very misogynistic assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:29 PM
1

This sounds like something you assume but haven’t tested
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:28 PM
2

I don’t like you enough to do that. Ask your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:27 PM
1

Ask your friends to introduce you to women who are single and looking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:21 PM
1

Yes, women go through that, too. The difference is that men are seen as victims of evil women and women are mocked for not being able to keep a man. When I was in my early 20s, my love life looked like Taylor Swift’s: date a guy for a couple of months, someone would decide it wasn’t working, meet a new guy and repeat. Getting rejected is definitely part of the cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:20 PM
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Why would you listen to a woman who tells you her own lives experience when you could repeat the same redpill tropes written by single, bitter men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:17 PM
2

You come off as really angry and aggressive. Not a nice guy and not a good personality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:16 PM
2

If your friends are telling you that you are not putting yourself out there, then listen to them. If you’re going to assume that all women have the same numerical rating scale and only date men in the 85th percentile for height, you’re probably just a bitter hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:14 PM
2

Nah, women are still dating normal men. Get out of your Algorithm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:11 PM
-1

The stats are that most of them figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:11 PM
1

Boo hoo woe is me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:10 PM
1

Why are you so angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:10 PM
0

The vast majority of people aren’t chronically single. You don’t have to be massively lucky. It’s a numbers game and you meet lots of people until you find someone you like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:01 PM
0

You come off as really angry and bitter. I’m thinking it’s not about your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:59 PM
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The former
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:58 PM
2

Yes, and you got to know them before you were sleeping with them or considering yourselves a couple
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:57 PM
3

Ask your friends why you’re single and be prepared to hear their answers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:56 PM
3

My husband is 5’7”. My son is 5’6.5” and is talking to a girl he knows from college who invited him to visit her over the summer. My daughter is dating a guy who’s 5”5.5”. Just based on my own personal experience, women date short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:55 PM
-3

False hope to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:53 PM
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Then work on changing that among your peers. Create social gatherings. Encourage people to invite people that the friend group doesn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:48 PM
-7

Most women don’t have unreasonable standards
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:47 PM
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Nope. You start by meeting people. Most of what makes people want to date other people is more than physical. Cute guys and everywhere. I wouldn’t be interested in dating most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:45 PM
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Hilarious. I used to be too young to be allowed on the internet. Now I’m too old. My husband is at the office, my son is at his summer job (he drove himself there), my daughter is sleeping off the effects of the meningitis shots she got yesterday, and I am a teacher on summer break. You still didn’t answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:43 PM
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I started chatting with my husband on a city bus. We were married 15 months later. The part that you don’t see is that I used to talk to people on the bus all the time. I only married one of them. Talking to people on public transportation was low stakes and just a way to pass the time. Afterwards, you never had to talk to the person again
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:41 PM
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You find people until you find the right person. Sometimes you reject them, and sometimes they reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:36 PM
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Before what? I’m 50 and married. What happened that made it so much harder for you to meet people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:34 PM
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Ooh! You’ve cursed us with being cat ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:33 PM
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Those evil women, only wanting to date men they find attractive. Men would never judge women on physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:32 PM
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Stop whining, get friends together, and throw low-key parties if you want to meet people. Make them potluck and/or BYOB if you want. Invite your friends and get them to invite their friends. The explicit vibe will be expanding the social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:31 PM
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Redpillers are definitely not traditional, because they advocate using and discarding women, often under false pretenses. Their only consistent position is misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:21 PM
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None of what you said makes sense. If you don’t want to get married, don’t. I like being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:16 PM
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The longer you’re with someone, the longer you have to work on being the best
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:09 PM
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This is certainly not the first time that something like this has happened. It used to happen to gay couples a lot, where the family would force the partner out of their home, or even refuse to let them into the intensive care ward as their partner died. I have heard of cases where the partner was magnanimous enough to let the estranged family know that their child/sibling/etc was dying only to have this happen, from family that the dying partner hadn’t been in contact with for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:57 AM
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I am so sorry. That’s genuinely terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:39 AM
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Okay. Change the laws. Marriage is rooted in patriarchy, but the laws are pretty egalitarian. A marriage is as egalitarian as you make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:38 AM
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You can, but legally your extended family can mess things up for you if you aren’t married
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:55 AM
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It’s easier to go through life with a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:27 AM
1

I have taught kids with cognitive disabilities, and they’re not having lots of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:44 PM
1

Most guys do find the nice girl who appreciates them if they’re out in the world being social
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:39 PM
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Some guys out there think that just looking like a nice guy character makes you a nice guy. Example off the top of my head: Rick Moranis played lots of dorky nice guy characters in movies. He voluntarily left showbusiness for a long time, because his wife was dying of cancer and he had small children to take care of. He’s just starting to get back into movies. Looking like Rick Moranis doesn’t make you as great of a guy as Rick Moranis appears to be. One does not equate to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:37 PM
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The reason marriage contracts exist is to declare to the state that a person you are not related to by blood should be regarded as your next of kin. As such, they inherit your property, get to visit you in the hospital, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:42 PM
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Those same men will claim that women can’t pair bond with anyone but the first man they ever slept with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:55 PM
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Because women have the option of taking care of themselves and not needing men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:32 PM
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He said that women’s freedom is bad for men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:18 PM
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I’m in perimenopause and the hormone swings are WILD. One week I’m falling asleep and ignoring him, and the next week I have him begging for his life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:41 PM
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Um, no? I really like sex and I really love my husband. Sex is something we do together because it connects us to each other and feels good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:39 PM
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The points that kids who are intelligent and take school seriously are less likely to have sex as children? I was a smart nerd and didn’t have sex in high school either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:44 PM
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So you, as a nice guy, want to limit women’s freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:42 PM
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Is having fewer than 4 partners a year considered not successful? If someone has a serious girlfriend, how many partners would they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:39 PM
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I would say that non-porn pop culture definitely doesn’t help. The typical protagonist these days is the nice guy who gets the girl before the hot guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:19 PM
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You, as a person in a western country in contemporary times, are living a safer existence than any human beings in all of human history. Nobody needs you to fight lions or throw your body on a grenade. We just want you to wash dishes once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:43 AM
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Yes, if the women you’re dating are 12. My daughter is 17 and even she would think this was cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:38 AM
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It’s just a way that men in the manosphere try to make women question their worth. It doesn’t matter how long you dated or who initiated the breakup, you guys want women to feel like if it didn’t last forever, it’s because the women weren’t good enough and the men felt that way about them from the beginning. If men stay with women, it’s because they’re oofy doofy beta simps
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:46 PM
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Okay. Guess you guys don’t really provide or protect like you say you do. So glad I married a beta simp oofy doofy who doesn’t treat me like that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:23 AM
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If you aren’t willing to intervene, you aren’t really a good guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:29 PM
1

Obviously you’re the expert
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:07 PM
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This is clearly why you have been so successful. Listening to your algorithm always beats listening to actual people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:39 PM
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Okay, do whatever you want. She’s not going to like it, and she’s going to think you’re a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:50 PM
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Don’t cold approach women in public, tell them that they’re pretty, and ask them out. That’s creepy. Talking to someone in public, whether it’s at the same bus stop you wait at every day at the same time, or at a bar or party that’s intended to be a social event is totally fine. But get to know a person a little bit and see if you like them before you ask them out
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:37 AM
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People have been making fun of women’s loneliness for centuries. This is literally the first time anyone has ever pushed back against loser men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:12 PM
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Why good?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:49 PM
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Interesting. Women being lonely has been openly mocked by our vice president
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:46 PM
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Men used to really enjoy men’s fraternal organizations like Elks or American Legion, too. How many men do you know who are involved in stuff like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:46 PM
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Honestly I think the reason men don’t socialize is that maintaining a social network is work and they offload that work onto women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:48 PM
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You need to explain what you mean by “wired differently” and why the Mongolian model would work better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:59 PM
1

That’s more unsupported claims
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:21 PM
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You’re not proving anything though. You’re making a claim that Mongolia is better than other countries, but you have no numbers or statistics to back it up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:07 PM
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Can you show me information on this? Because I just did a quick google search and found that there is incel social media activity in Mongolia
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:37 PM
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I would disagree. I think young men are falling into the manosphere because patriarchal structures cannot adapt to a world where women don’t need men to function in society
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:18 PM
2

Exactly. Show me things like longer life expectancy, better mental health, stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:06 PM
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Okay. Why is Mongolia positive for having traditional male roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:47 PM
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The child mortality rate of Mongolia is more than twice the rate of the USA. Why would we want to emulate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:25 PM
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No, because I‘m no longer 14. You’re describing a behavior that I associate with children
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:28 PM
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I’m raising a son. He’s pretty shy but has lots of friends and hobbies. He’s almost 20. He’s currently enjoying his day working on his beloved POS car. So yeah, I think I would be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:49 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:08 PM
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Scapegoating? You’re literally taking credit for the achievements of all men and asserting that women just stood by
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:06 PM
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I feel like the example of my life (traveled in my 20s, wasn’t a virgin when I met my husband at 28, got married at 29 and had kids at 30 and 33, am currently 50 with a happy marriage) held up to the example of manosphere influencers (incels, guys who pay for it, guys who have been divorced multiple times, and guys who don’t follow their own advice) might make some of the pillheads stop and think “wow, maybe this old lady has it figured out.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:45 PM
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I’m not the one getting posts deleted. And yeah, the idea that you’re trying to gaslight me because you think women need to submit to traumatic, non-consensual sex acts to prove their attraction is pretty triggering. I would worry that you’re a rapist, but I doubt you can get close enough to a woman to commit actual crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:26 PM
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So you’re speculating that men who are nice to women are being cheated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:11 PM
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Agree with women about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:11 PM
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How would a white knight/simp experience schadenfreude?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:10 PM
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Why do you frame it negatively when men love women? I’m a woman who calls out toxic manosphere behavior. I get accused of hating men, when I am actually in a very happy marriage with a really great guy. The fact that he treats me kindly and doesn’t “put me in my place” is very triggering to redpill men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:09 PM
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I needed emergency c sections with both of my kids because they were occiput posterior and didn’t come down far enough for me to push them out. I would have absolutely died in childbirth, likely taking my son with me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:51 PM
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The thing is, the specific men who accuse women of not taking accountability will also call normal-looking nice men oofy doofy and betabuxx. It’s a bad faith argument from men who want women to be abused by their fantasy Chad, and they want to blame women for abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:55 PM
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What’s in that for us?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:12 PM
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I love the argument that men created everything while women made the clothes, made the food (and the cookpots it went in) kept the fired burning, and raised all the babies. You know, the dumb stuff. Now women go to college and men say scholarship is weak and feminine. Women didn’t like sex because they didn’t choose their mates
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:09 PM
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I mean, yeah. I don’t have to provide documentation to my own next of kin because he loves me and trusts me that I wasn’t secretly sleeping with someone other than him when I got pregnant with our kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:16 AM
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Because getting divorced over mistrusting me would have sucked for him
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:02 AM
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Luckily my husband trusted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:19 PM
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This is a stretch. It seems more logical that the guys who constantly put down men by calling them simps and oofy doofy are the actual misandrists, and the women who say “personality matters more to me than height, actually” maybe are not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:13 PM
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If my husband accused me of cheating on him and didn’t believe me when I told him I didn’t, I would leave him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:54 PM
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You don’t know who the father of your kids is? Skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:26 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:25 PM
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So telling your woman that you think she’s an abusive and bad person is a breakup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:37 PM
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Cheating is an abusive choice made by bad people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:32 PM
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You must really hate your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:29 PM
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Acting like you have a reason to doubt your mate’s fidelity without good cause is a tactic of abusers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:23 PM
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Cheating and lying are abusive behaviors, and they are entirely a matter of choice. Telling a woman who has done nothing wrong that you don’t trust her and think she’s a bad person who abuses you is a good way to get dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:07 PM
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So you assume all women are liars
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:04 PM
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Guys who sit around fantasizing about catching women at paternity fraud and acting like it’s normal to put loyal women through shit tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:03 PM
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But the point is to blame women for everything!! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:02 PM
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I would consent and then divorce him after I proved that I wasn’t cheating. Good thing I married a beta simp oofy doofy who trusts and loves me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:43 PM
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None of them have ever had a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:41 PM
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And lack of trust. If my husband didn’t trust me, I wouldn’t stay with him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:38 PM
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You guys are so insecure. It’s actually funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:37 PM
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My BS? He believed that he was the father of my child because I am trustworthy and he’s not insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:54 PM
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You seem angry that he didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:11 PM
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I would have divorced my husband if he had demanded a paternity test. We’ve been married for 21 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:09 PM
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Online includes through social media and only accounts for half according to your graph
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:09 AM
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Enjoy being right and pretending i secretly hate my husband
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:10 AM
1

You just really want to anally rape women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:04 AM
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Literally every woman experiences sexual harassment from men, and a large percentage experience sexual abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:44 PM
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That’s irresponsible. You should make sure you talk about kids, pets, debt, where you’re going to live, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:37 PM
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Women don’t like dating apps as much as men do, so there’s not an even mix
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:32 PM
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I think people should have all the uncomfortable conversations before they get married
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:09 PM
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How are you making this call as to what women deserve based on their value? And why are men getting hoodwinked by evil women into dating below their level?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:08 PM
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I don’t think most people enter into marriage thinking that someday they’ll stop wanting to have sex with their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:56 PM
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If something is painful and results in trauma, it’s not displaying a lack of attraction to say you don’t want to do it ever again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:53 PM
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You blame feminism for genital mutilation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:41 PM
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And we don’t blame men for it, but you blame women for everything because you can’t get matches on online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:36 PM
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Got a post to link to? Therapy is good for people. We don’t subscribe to lone wolf nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:30 PM
1

Dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:53 PM
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Anyone who you consider a feminist doing that? Patriarchy typically tells men to man up, and feminists say seek therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:50 PM
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What people are those? Certainly not feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:06 PM
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To whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:19 PM
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I advocate for expanding the rights of women.What are you doing to end the draft in Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:38 PM
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I’m not a unicorn. I won’t claim to have been a virgin before I met my husband, but I wasn’t having one night stands either. I had relationships with mostly nice guys who ultimately I realized I wasn’t compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:58 PM
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You think you’re a victim of systemic oppression greater than what black people suffer as you look at an army in another country?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:08 PM
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Most of the examples you’ve mentioned are imposed by men on men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:54 PM
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Let’s use you and me as examples. I’m happily married. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:14 PM
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I agree. This post was a lot of words that said very little
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:57 PM
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I’m glad that the guy I married was capable of being interesting enough for me to stick with him for reasons other than desperation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:55 PM
2

Is it like your life or just like your algorithm?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:54 PM
0

I never had casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:51 PM
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I find it interesting that the women who supposedly hate men are usually in a loving relationship with a man while they men who understand female nature are alone and rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:30 PM
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You live in Ukraine? Are Ukrainian men brought home to serve from abroad?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:29 PM
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In Afghanistan, women are not allowed to speak to their friends in public. You’re oppressed because women don’t swipe right on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:16 PM
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I’m sure that gender studies programs will note that men fail to be desirable to women on merit when women have the autonomy to refuse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:01 PM
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I think blaming moms is simplistic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:07 PM
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I want to emphasize that none of these things are unreasonable to want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:05 PM
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It’s nothing like my life either. Who are you hanging out with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:44 PM
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Do you have evidence that a majority of women are like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:41 PM
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Society enabled women to change in a way that was advantageous to women. Women aren’t going to voluntarily choose something disadvantageous to them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:29 PM
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5’7”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:56 AM
1

Why would you assume they have no hope of ever getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:48 AM
1

Why would you assume otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:45 AM
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Oh it’s definitely what they mean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:03 AM
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Even if it hurts and she cries. I have a short list of things I really won’t do. Don’t put it in my butt, don’t choke me, don’t cum on my face. I love my husband specifically because he won’t violate these boundaries. And because I am comfortable with him, I actually do a lot more kinky stuff (that I won’t specify) that doesn’t violate my boundaries, because it’s not degrading or painful. Men on this board have tried to tell me that I am not really attracted to my husband because I let an ex coe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:52 PM
1

School enrollment is still falling. Immigration can’t keep up with falling birth rates, and the number of babies born in the countries that are currently supplying the majority of immigrants to the west is also rapidly falling
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:11 PM
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We are not going extinct. We’re correcting for the massive population boom of the 20th century
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:10 PM
11

Again, help more with housework. Find a woman who is open to the idea of kids
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:26 PM
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Men are bellowing at women that women trap men into fatherhood. Women are complaining that having kids causes them setbacks in their career, and gives them exponentially more housework that men won’t help with. If you want women to have kids, be a better partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:21 PM
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You guys literally tell us that men don’t want children and should have the right to financially abort. You also hate single mothers for having husbands who don’t support their own children. If children are so great, why don’t you want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:07 PM
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I just realized that you think this woman represents all women because you never leave your house
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:05 PM
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The women I know in my real life are willing to date guys who are not tall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:04 PM
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If you think height will make or break a relationship, you probably shouldn’t be dating
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:33 PM
1

So you like the idea of women dismissing guys of a certain height before they even meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:00 PM
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I mean, if that comforts you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:45 AM
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No, I think women are just turned off by your negativity. Men who get laid are happier
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:25 AM
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You literally talk trash about all women saying we’re all horrible and ugly and take no accountability. You sound awful, and you’re not smart enough to be interesting. Maybe look inward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:06 AM
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No, the guys who are unapologetic about being players are usually not mean. They just don’t take anything very seriously. Do you think you’re nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:52 AM
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But the person you are is a belligerent bully. If men want women to choose better, they need to accept that belligerent bullies are going to be rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:14 AM
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I mean, I tell you guys this all the time, and you tell me I’m a liar and those men are settling
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:49 AM
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No, social circle is the way. Talk to people and see if you vibe before you even consider making a move. Get to know each other low pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:55 PM
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I love this. Dating apps encourage people to be superficial and rule out things they would likely overlook or compromise on IRL if they like the person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:37 PM
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I’ve been married to a nice guy for 21 years. Guys like you call him a beta simp oofy doofy etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:19 PM
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Because men victimize women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:07 PM
2

And even if you have someone who’s a workaholic who has a spouse who takes care of the home, you typically find that educated people prefer the company of other educated people. A guy with a medical degree might be happy enough with a woman who has a PhD in medieval history and is offensively underpaid as an adjunct professor at a local college, but he’s likely not going to marry a grocery store cashier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:18 PM
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Men usually talk about it to shout over pride
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:40 PM
2

And yet you have to google it. Everyone knows when men’s mental health month is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:31 PM
3

It’s sociopathic to pretend to have more than sexual interest with someone and only want to use them. Why would women be interested in men who don’t care about their personalities or achievements?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:30 PM
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He’s a human being who needs to realize that he has the choice to be better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:04 PM
1

I’ve been married to my best friend for 21 years
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:38 PM
1

You sound angry and unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:18 PM
1

We’re constantly hearing about the male loneliness epidemic even though men suffer loneliness at about the same rates as women. With men, it a crisis. With women, it’s a punchline. When is women’s mental health month?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:31 PM
1

This doesn’t sound angry or unhinged at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:06 PM
1

You don’t get a. Pleasuring your partner isn’t something that you are supposed to endure for your benefit. Sex is supposed to be mutually pleasurable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:33 AM
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Because this isn’t the way it works, and you would know if you had ever had any kind of sexual relationship at all, which you clearly have not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:52 AM
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You have serious problems with consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:11 AM
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I am more attracted to my husband than I was to my ex. I still don’t let him penetrate me anally because it hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:03 AM
1

When I was a single adult in the 1990s/2000s, I went a lot of places and met and talked to a lot of people. These places included college dorms, fraternity parties, singles mixers for young adults, parties thrown by friends, youth hostels abroad, and a guesthouse for English teachers in China. Sometimes I would meet someone I really clicked with. In those cases, I would usually end up dating that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:58 AM
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So you’re now saying that I don’t have the right to refuse something I didn’t enjoy in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:53 AM
2

Do you think that men are generally kind to women when they don’t want something from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:55 AM
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So you’re saying that men should stop being nice to women because women don’t deserve people being nice to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:27 AM
1

Again, you have the right to your own body. Consent is a thing. Sorry you’re triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:04 AM
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It’s not the experience of men who live in their algorithms and don’t actually associate with women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:20 AM
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It doesn’t matter how much we tell you that we marry the guys we like best, you’ll just tell us we’re lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:32 PM
2

Again, that’s an argument from marginal cases
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:19 PM
1

So you want an endless stream of young, beautiful women to have sex with you anonymously and then leave, and you are mad that conventional advice doesn’t give you what you want. Nothing is going to give you this, because it’s an unrealistic ask. People are ultimately out there for themselves, too. Nobody owes you anything. If you want to have sex, you’re going to have to put up with having relationships with other human beings who look like normal human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:45 PM
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Ew. I’m so glad I married a beta simp oofy doofy white knight bloopie guy who still likes me even though I’m 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:10 PM
5

All of that makes sense. And when women say, after they reach adulthood and start thinking about having adult relationships, “I want a guy who’s employed, not an addict, and capable of handling adult responsibilities,” guys on this board scream “ALPHA FUX BETA BUX!!!!” The reality is that most people don’t prioritize much beyond attraction and enjoying hanging out with someone until they’re in their early 20s. And while those guys might be fun, and attraction and enjoying each other’s company ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:39 PM
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It’s not good to use people. Continuing to be friends with someone whom you’ve shot down is not using them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:04 PM
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My life with my kind husband is awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:29 PM
3

So she was mid 20s, you were, what, early 30s? And you’re fortyish now? That’s middle aged
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:00 PM
0

Again, they look normal and they hate women who don’t even know them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:58 PM
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I’m sorry but I just don’t subscribe to the whole boo hoo woe is me thing. It’s scapegoating women for men’s terrible behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:43 PM
1

Literally every guy whose photo I have seen who identifies as an incel is good looking enough to attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:09 PM
4

What facts? Are you citing data somewhere? I don’t hate men. I specifically said that women like feminist men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:52 PM
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You aren’t supporting your argument. I’m trying to get you to reflect on your own life and see if your actions have gotten you where you want to be. You were never going to listen to women anyway because you hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:32 PM
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It’s not an isolated thing. Read Arthur Chu’s article “Your Princess Is In Another Castle”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:25 PM
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I mean, based on your level of professional accomplishment, I assume you’re middle aged. I would hope that a woman who was an appropriate age to date you wouldn’t get wrapped up in nonsense like that. If I were single, I wouldn’t ask things like that, but I’m 50 and my algorithm is mostly cooking and cat videos
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:23 PM
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You don’t see a problem with men self labeling as nice because they identify with nerdy pop culture figures pitted against good looking assholes? I became an adolescent in the 1980s. I remember the movie Revenge of The Nerds where the heroes commit multiple sex crimes against the popular girls, but we’re still supposed to cheer them on because the girls are stuck up bitches and our heroes are the nice guys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:19 PM
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Then you don’t understand what women mean when they rail against “nice guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:10 PM
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Oh, congratulations. Usually when men online say they want a woman who brings them peace, what they mean is that they don’t want a fully formed human being with her own desires
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:09 PM
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Okay, but there are actually other options. A guy could just accept it and move on. Most women don’t want a guy whom they have turned down to keep hanging around
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:00 PM
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Have you found your peaceful woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:58 PM
2

I have seen incels online advocate for women to be raped and murdered because they don’t choose nice guys. A lot of people who claim to be nice are not nice. Similarly, I married a nice guy. Manosphere guys who tell women to choose better call him oofy doofy, betabuxx, simp, white knight, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:54 PM
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It’s not an asshole move to not be interested in continuing to interact with someone who has shot you down. You’re only an asshole if you get angry at someone like they owed you something. Similarly, a person who pretends to be your friend and drops your friendship when you say you’re not interested in more was never really your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:52 PM
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My husband is a feminist and I desire him. Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:23 PM
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Compensate in what way? What I often see is women wanting a guy who’s equally willing to take on adult responsibilities and to be faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:23 PM
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What considerations?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:19 PM
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According to whom? I don’t think that’s an invalid reason to leave a relationship. The only reasons I would judge someone for leaving would be if they were cheating or left because their partner got sick
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:22 AM
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I would never let anyone choke me, but thankfully, I’m old enough that nobody has ever asked me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:38 AM
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Their personal boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:36 AM
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I give him points for creativity at least. Usually they just say we’ll be alone with our cats
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:15 AM
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Trump typically has sex with pornographers and high-class escorts, women who use sexuality to gain money and power. His wife was a call girl for Jeffrey Epstein who used her looks to get out of Yugoslavia during the communist era. Most women are not like this. If you think they are, I very much doubt that you are interacting with many women or having sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:13 AM
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And 20K doesn’t make someone any money at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:09 AM
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Anyone has the right to leave a relationship at any time if they’re not happy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:04 AM
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Maybe some women under the age of 25, but not any with even the barest amount of brains or education.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:02 AM
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Because men want to harm women they have sex with. There’s apparently a documented phenomenon that some men don’t enjoy acts like anal as much if the women are really into it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:43 AM
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Exactly. Compromise doesn’t require overriding your boundaries. If you hate going to sports games and your partner loves them, you need to be okay with either letting them go by themselves or going with them and being bored sometimes. It doesn’t mean doing stuff in bed that makes you cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:39 AM
2

I’ve never let anyone choke me. And if I had and didn’t like it, it doesn’t mean that I’m so diminished in value that I don’t have the right to refuse choking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:35 AM
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This is becoming less common. Women are reaching out to women, especially online, and encouraging them not to compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:28 PM
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The problem is that guys who pressure women to do things they don’t want to do because they’ve done them before don’t acutely care about the reasons why women don’t want to do it. Coercion is a huge problem in sexual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:38 PM
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Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:17 PM
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