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| 7 | The women aged 24-32 who are not content with the current state of dating: Why are you not content with it? What can both genders do about it?Women can get a pass. In a way a man can't. It's not fair. Or equal but it is what it is. And men need to understand that. Imagine if that's what was said about the 'wage gap'. Hrm.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 12:04 AM |
| 3 | The women aged 24-32 who are not content with the current state of dating: Why are you not content with it? What can both genders do about it?Maybe you should immaculate him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 11:52 PM |
| 1 | The women aged 24-32 who are not content with the current state of dating: Why are you not content with it? What can both genders do about it?Why you gotta ruin it? The irony is thick that someone running around calling other people uneducated is also running around calling men 'immaculated'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenYou're aware that birth control exists, right? Highly educated people, who are often found in Denmark, are more likely to use it and use it correctly. Birth Control exists everywhere. People in poor countries have access to condoms, and have for a long period of time. You're correlating education directly to birth rates (whole forest, one tree), which is incorrect. Countries with more "education" also tend to be wealthier, so does wealth correlate to lower birth rates? because you didn't mention… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenMost prostitutes are victims of violence at least at some point. Most *people* are victims of violence at some point. The vast majority of prostitutes are in the profession by choice, not violence, and young children (boys and girls) are sexually traffic'ed at equal rates. that punishment is gender-neutral Not if it realistically only punishes one demographic, which is clearly the case here. It also punishes non-violent men as a way to punish violent men. When prostitution is legalized and bro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 06:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The push for feminism from beta men backfired.women do share equal responsibility for “society” in other ways. and None of it is really about “women are so precious and special” Are not compatible statements. You either treat them special, or you don't. You either treat men special, or you don't. If you don't want to treat them equally, that's fine, just state that. If you have a belief of something, or facts about something, just state them and don't hide behind a political "please don't label me" mantra. You are in favor of treating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:08 PM |
| 2 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenYou think that being violent and being a victim of violence deserve equal punishment? There it is, the bigotry again. Not all (nor most, nor do you have any studies showing otherwise) men who use prostitution are violent. The unviolent men have no responsibility to bear for the violent ones, sorry. Prostitutes are not "women", and are male and female. per https://prostitution.procon.org/questions/how-many-prostitutes-are-in-the-united-states-and-the-rest-of-the-world/ 80 percent of the world p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:04 PM |
| 2 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenThat's not about sex, it's about children You know what happens when 2 people have sex enough, right? Danish people are perfectly happy without children Then why is their government trying to pay their men to have sex with their women? You're actually just wrong. Their population is crashing, which will cause their way of life to crash, and their government knows it. It's unclear how you think prostitution will fix it. Cheap and legal Prostitution literally drives the social demands placed o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:52 PM |
| 2 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenAnd men being willing to pay for sex is not “cutting out the problem”, violence and trafficking is your stated problem. Arresting johns for their side but not women for theirs is literally punishing men, literally trafficking men (into prison). Your solution to whites outlawing blacks is for blacks to outlaw whites. That’s called bigotry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenThe Nordic model ‘works’ because they’re willing to die on their idiocy. Denmark is literally paying its domestic men to have sex with its domestic women, because their level of “feminist equality” has driven men to refuse to engage with their own counterparts altogether. Outlawing johns is a way to try to curb mens alternatives, nothing more. Stop cherry-picking your pov for the parts that fit your narrative. The Nordic models are failing spectacularly, and their official plan for national defe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The push for feminism from beta men backfired.If “women aren’t special”, why don’t you want them sharing equal responsibility? Sounds like special treatment to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:11 PM |
| 3 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenLike when restricting buyers killed alcohol consumption and they never had to repeal prohibition? Oh right. Legalization has been proven, not hypothesized, to increase safety for all participants. Buyers and sellers. The only reason to control it is to control men. The “moral” cause wants men to marry and be productive, which cheap sex gets in the way of. Women want prostitution banned because as a gender they benefit from a monopoly on a necessary commodity. Wanting to control men but not women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The push for feminism from beta men backfired.Most people ... prefer an all male military because ...it’s simply more effective that way. Is actually the accurate statement. But let's be fair and give you your shot: Can you name a 1st world country, run by women, with a female dominated military force? Can you name a historical empire that was built on the labor of war provided by a female dominated military force? So, let's not say "most people believe", as if they are evangelicals. Men are better at violence. Our entire history as a spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 06:57 AM |
| 3 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenThe best conditions are generally....Prostitutes get protected but Johns and pimps aren't Literally The best conditions for women are when they're on the winning side of inequality Glad to see the bigotry flowing freely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Social media and online dating have ruined dating for menNo? I don't recall saying "Men are better than women" without regards to a specific statement with specific data correlating such. Unless you're referring to: Have you ever had a woman flirt with you? I have, plenty. Most are fucking terrible at it, Which is not a comparative statement, it doesn't in any way state that men are 'better' or 'worse' at flirting. It is an objective statement that one particular gender is bad at something, without reference to the other gender at all. I wouldn't comm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Social media and online dating have ruined dating for menbecause on average women are far superior to men there's that bigotry showing thru. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Social media and online dating have ruined dating for menYour statement implies that men have an irrational fear and that somehow women overcome this fear. Men acknowledge that 90% of their even-level approaches will be shot down, where 90% of women's even-level approaches will not be. Women aren't rejected as often. Not fearing something that doesn't happen is reasonable. Have you ever had a woman flirt with you? I have, plenty. Most are fucking terrible at it, they're just used to not having to work hard because <tits>. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Social media and online dating have ruined dating for menI don't think women are nearly as terrified of rejectioned as men are. FTFY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 01:18 AM |
| 0 | Competitive reputation manipulation: Women strategically transmit social information about romantic rivalsThanks. I find that most people are too offended that the truth about the situation doesn’t paint them in a 100% “angelic” position, and the it devolves into whataboutisms to prove that somewhere there was an outlier, therefore the fact about the broad majority isn’t true because frank or sue in Minnesota isn’t like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Competitive reputation manipulation: Women strategically transmit social information about romantic rivalsIt's not moral or immoral, but posting just one side of it paints a pretty clear picture what the consensus is (as evidenced by the comments). The reason the OP posted the particular side he posted is because that is the side that refuses to admit to the information the OP posted. Men admit to mate guarding. Men admit that if a man steals his woman, he might want to kill the thief. Men admit to the vast majority of their 'wall building'. What men don't do is use social damage to the extent or ef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.(part 2) I have a better solution. We don't need less medical professionals, we need more of them. So more men need to pursue nursing, psychology, etc. Great, so women are vastly the majority drivers of social policy. Where are the drives to get more men into STEM? Oh, there isn't one? You think men should fix their own issues? Well, I think women should fix their own rapes. Oh, victim blaming isn't a polite thing to do? Tell that to the men you just victim blamed. Aside from medicine, a high … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.(part 1) Don't say that to me, say that to the men who believe it, and obviously you'll hear it from women too who have been raised to believe it as well (nature vs nurture). The same way terrorists have been raised and brainwashed to think what they're doing is "good". I said it to you because you were saying it, not because you were 'a gender'. Women weren't collectively raised on some secret scheme to trick them into believing that they were inferior to men at some things - they ARE inferior … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 10:37 PM |
| 6 | Competitive reputation manipulation: Women strategically transmit social information about romantic rivalsThis isn't at all what is being said, stop being intellectually dishonest. The study specifically highlights the vehicles that women use to achieve evolutionary success for themselves, and which vehicles men use to do the same. It clearly spells out that if the relationship is a kingdom, women train citizens of the kingdom to repel invaders , and men fortify walls to inhibit invaders. Very different strategies. The idea that men or women's gender-specific version of kingdom defense is 'moral' or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 05:27 AM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.It's kinda funny you are trying to call me a bigot Actually I didn't call you a bigot, I stated it was a bigoted stance: This is wrong, and a bigoted stance, and then I extrapolated why it's a bigoted stance. I have no issues calling people bigots when they demonstrate they are one, just to be clear. the article you linked says the exact same thing The article I linked extrapolates numbers and clearly states that women are 53% of STEM. STEM doesn't not have a 'not enough women' problem, at b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 12:58 AM |
| 25 | She said give her space over a small issueYou need to realize that you didn't bring up an issue at all. You brought up commitment. In response to commitment, she told you she wanted to go fuck around with other people more. If she comes back, you were settled for after evaluating her other options and what she could/couldn't get from them vs you. It's over, regardless of whether she comes back around. | /r/seduction | 02/11/21 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Just because the male-dominated jobs are recruiting women doesn't mean there are a ton of applicants. Small numbers is exactly why they have to aggressively recruit them in the first place. Yes, but it does mean that there is financial incentive for those women to join a male dominated field. If we wanted to take an 'egalitarian' approach, because 'equality' was the goal, we would similarly financially incentivize males to approach female dominated fields, and we don't. You can't use point 2 (Me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Her n and infidelity (revised)You mean behavior that is deliberately obscured by shaming him for asking or directly lying to him because you know that he won't like it? Insecurity because someone will actively take advantage of him? in·se·cu·ri·ty uncertainty or anxiety about oneself; lack of confidence. He's not unsure that he can be a good partner. He doesn't lack confidence that he can be a good partner. He is anxious about SOMEONE ELSE's behavior. If you want to prove that someone has no reason to be concerned about the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 09:15 AM |
| 0 | Her n and infidelity (revised)I think it’s wrong to be Biphobic and transphobic as well. Ah good, at least you're admitting to your bigotry in this reply. I know you're going to say, how can it be bigotry to say you're against bigotry! Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. In assigning a moral value to something which has no inherent moral associations to it. Phobic adjec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Her n and infidelity (revised)Your body count doesn’t affect your ability to be a good partner. This is not a fact, it's an opinion without a basis in fact. A high body count doesn't prevent you from being a good partner, but it does suggest you're less likely to be. I can tell you for a fact, no good woman is going to appreciate misogyny. More nonsense, and you snuck in some shaming language, first to imply that the OP is a misogynists, then to imply that any woman who disagrees with you isn't a good woman. Classy. Body c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:20 AM |
| 0 | Her n and infidelity (revised)As many women as you know who got less sexual over the years, I know deadbeat dads who signed up to be a husband and father and failed both. This isn't really true. Studies are very clear that women's measured sexual appetites fall off after both marriage and menopause. Men do not suffer menopause, and as such do not see a rapid sexual decline. Ignoring the decline of both estrogen and testosterone in women during menopause is literal science denial. There is data showing that men are more likel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:12 AM |
| 5 | Her n and infidelity (revised)the highest rate of cheating comes from older men right? Specifically, 30+ the only level where women and women cheat at the same rate is around 18-24? This is incorrect, women cheat more than men in the 18-29 age demographic. Women's infidelity has been rising in direct correlation to their income as a demographic. Higher body count can also be correlated with depression, substance abuse, sexual abuse, child abuse, etc. You're listing more reasons not to want to date a promiscuous woman, not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:09 AM |
| 3 | Her n and infidelity (revised)You have to realize you're debating how to navigate multiple relationships with someone who stopped having multiple relationships at 22, and additionally stopped having them before App dating was a thing. This is the equivalent of taking auto repair lessons from someone who still rides in a horse and buggy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Her n and infidelity (revised)Worrying about your partner cheating is always insecurity. insecurity uncertainty or anxiety about oneself; lack of confidence. the state of being open to danger or threat; lack of protection. It literally has nothing to do with insecurity. He is literally concerned his partner will be more prone to cheating. He is more concerned his partner will be the danger or threat to his well being. Stop gaslighting people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:02 AM |
| 2 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.I'm pretty sure this is the ending of battle star galactica. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Didn't pakistan just get thrown back into the pre-internet, pre-progressive state, in 2021? Doesn't china live in a conservative totalitarian regime, complete with internet control? The internet is a big change for human evolution, but it does not prevent the cycle from continuing. It would be much better looked at as changing the narratives within the cycle, without actually changing the cycle. Conservative pushback will be bigger because of the internet, just as progressive push forward was bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:55 AM |
| 2 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.The internet changed some very specific, species altering evolutions: widespread instant communication collectivizing human 'memory' giving human memory 'permanence' large-scale data examination It is very possible that humanity as a species is not capable of dealing with these evolutions, or the responsibilities that come with, much how a drug addict says "I can quit at any time". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Are you aware of how much more 'progressive' the Middle east was in the 70s pre taliban? Conservativism/Progressivism is a cycle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:42 AM |
| 4 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Not really. Well, logically, yes. Obviously if everyone woman quit working tomorrow, men would have no issues finding jobs. Would they be the jobs they preferred? Maybe not, but women being in the work force obviously lowers the jobs available for men. It's not like women are all aggressively applying for male-dominated jobs High paying white collar "male-dominated jobs" are aggressively recruiting women. There are not similar large scale drives in women dominated fields (like medical STEM) to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:40 AM |
| 3 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.big·ot a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. Men still hold the cheating market and likely always will. Bigot. The hilarious part is that you imply being married to a man is proof you aren't a bigot. That's like saying that married men can't be misogynists, or women misandrists, or whites married to bla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:19 AM |
| 3 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Infidelity Rises When She Makes More Than He Does Cheating Women: Why Are Women Narrowing the Cheating Gap? The Future of Infidelity Is Female You're just an out of date bigot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:09 AM |
| 4 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.You're not very good at reading are you. Check out the demographic breakdown. Here, I'll quote myself so you can see what I wrote, again: That 'men likely always will' is false however, women's cheating has been rising in correlation with their earnings, and 20-29yo women are actually 1% more likely to cheat than their male counter-parts. (I incorrectly stated 20-29, I should have stated 18-29) 30+ still belong to men, but those are aging demographics. I separated it out. No one cares about th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:05 AM |
| 5 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Don't change your goalpost. You were wrong. Acknowledge it. Women's cheating has been picking up, and has now surpassed men. You stated the opposite. Who Cheats More? The Demographics of Infidelity in America So men don't "still", and "likely always will" is false. You're making bigoted incorrect statements. If you want to neg on men, be factual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:01 AM |
| 9 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.90% is clearly wrong. That 'men likely always will' is false however, women's cheating has been rising in correlation with their earnings, and 20-29yo women are actually 1% more likely to cheat than their male counter-parts. 30+ still belong to men, but those are aging demographics. You're out of date. Some countries the rates of paternity fraud is 25% +. You as a woman will never have to understand what it's like to find out 10 or 15 years after the fact that your kid isn't yours, and you're no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:42 AM |
| 1 | In your observations, what are the main differences between the wo/men as described by users here, and the wo/men you know irl?Do you only ever relate to people with shared experience? This is literally what the word 'relate' means: re·late make or show a connection between. feel sympathy with; identify with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 06:28 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?My question is all I care about: This is part of the problem, isn't it. asserting your ideology Not my idiology, anymore than recognizing how gravity works doesn't make gravity 'mine'. You just want to attach a figure you can attack to a historical pattern you disagree with affect my life? I don't want kids As long as no one forces you to have kids, your genes will self clean themselves out of the gene pool. nor does my husband Also self cleaning. If you lived in a competitive environmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 06:05 AM |
| 3 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?You asked a simple question, but your question was incorrect from the start. If you ask my why gravity causes objects to be repelled, I cannot give a simple answer because the assertion in the question isn't true. I didn't advocate for anything, and "conservativism" or 'traditional' values are not older than progressive values. Conservative values are simple more successful throughout history. edit: Here is a simple illustration. The old testament was eventually replaced, bit by bit, with the ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?By advocating for conservatism, I am not advocating in a moral sense, I am pointing out how the levers work. you're calling for a return I am pointing out how the pattern has played out when the levers have been moved this way for thousands of years. older gender practices and rights Progressivism is nearly as old as conservativism. The story of Adam and Eve is literally the story of conservative "be happy with what you have" and progressive "want a more than you have". The snake is literall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?'desperate' is used here because of its implied derogative meaning. I am not desperate for anything, anymore than I am desperate to prove to you that gravity is real. You're welcome to believe you can fly, no one can stop you. You're not welcome to try and use language tricks to hide derogative ad hominems. And, again, it comes back to you thinking women are lesser than men. I never stated anything near as such. If women are short, and men are tall, and women feel offended by the label 'short', … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?https://ftp.iza.org/dp12185.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0UMikNGiqSEZxdyKZ71-wiPMegJqBW-s5aRnZUW4qbGvZ0T-NPWtKN03w In the most economically egalitarian countries in the world, women ask for 5% (average) more than they give in their genetic pairings. Women marry equal or upwards up to 10%. Men marry equal or downwards up to 10%. Only someone staring at their lever, and their level alone thinks that equality was ever a thing. The "baseline" is unequal. Put 1.06 average men in a room with 1.0 average women (rati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?You are examining the issues at large as though you are standing in a room full of levers, examining each lever independently for its "good" or "evil" label. The levers are connected. I've never stated men are entitled to sex (or anything) simply for being men, nor women entitled to anything (including safety) for being women. Society is a complex series of gives and takes to make it function, and if one side has too many takes, society gets very rigid and unpleasant, but continues to function (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?https://eprints.lse.ac.uk/22514/1/2308Ramadams.pdf Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?As much as women want to claim "We go thru the risk of child bearing"; this is only partially true, and modernly not true at all. They go thru the risk of surviving in the safest medical time period of all time. The risk of death is so incredibly negligent (thanks to the society that men built and defend), that pregnancy is a nuisance, at best, across the entire spectrum. A self-cleaning optional nuisance at that, because the defective XX genes that don't want to reproduce (childless women), cle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 04:48 PM |
| 4 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?And the people who farm your food are men. The people who built your roads are men. The people who built your building are men. The people who enforce your safety are men. You? You just showed up at then end to proclaim your equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 06:46 AM |
| 5 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?Says the gender that relies on the labors of men to provide a life for her as a parent does a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Costs of Feminism Mega-ThreadWhy is physical power the only metric you measure by? People today are far more scared by cancel culture than the atom bomb. Women have always wielded more social power than men. Women, not men, were responsible for the Salem witch trials, for instance. Women utilizing social power on one another. Women have always utilized social power to defend themselves. The “husbands freely beat their wives” trope has been thoroughly debunked many times, including here on ppd. 99% of history is men and wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Costs of Feminism Mega-Threadhttps://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Apex\_fallacy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Costs of Feminism Mega-Threadbut women as a whole had very little access to the kind of power & choice that men have always had historically. Literally most everyone's lives sucked. Being a poor man wasn't better than being a poor woman. You were much more likely to die in someone else's war, and always have been. Don't white wash history with your ignorance. The weak have always been subjugated by the strong, women OR men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 03:33 AM |
| -1 | Are women "delusional" about penis size?I just find people who need 'sources' but are to intellectually lazy or dishonest to search for one, when it takes literally a minute of Google, as extremely obnoxious and not approaching a discussion in good faith. I bet you could shoot the fleas off a dog's back at five hundred yards, Tannen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Are women "delusional" about penis size?https://www.inverse.com/article/46473-big-dick-energy-bde-psychology https://www.vice.com/en/article/gykady/stop-laughing-at-my-dick-pic-study-researcher-says Don't bother replying, this is more for the casual reader. I'm well aware you'll tell me that since you didn't participate in the study, you don't consider it valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 12:36 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?But you’re also using the logic that women are seeking men out for their money/job security No, I'm using the evidence that money/job security is a big part of what they seek as attractive in men, and as the evidence shows, significantly wealthier men than average continue to demonstrate that women seek them out in higher proportion than average because the gov't doesn't provide these higher levels of wealth, it provides more average levels of wealth, and those more average guys can't compete. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 03:56 PM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?You're not, because I'm stating that in a free market, where neither side would be subsidized, but would have to rely on their own needs, women would choose differently. Women would literally be more sexually attracted to more average men, if the wealth/security that more average men provided wasn't being stolen from them by big gov't. This idea that big gov't can keep convincing men to work for no benefit is already playing out in china and japan: Laying flat Hikkomori Japanese increasingly sin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 06:24 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Person B is more than likely going to actually need to utilize said social services No, person B should likely get a better job or die to evolution. If person B is being cheated by the CEO of Megacorp™, they should likely get a pitch fork and enforce evolution. The notion that failures should for some reason be successful because you feel bad for them is just monkeys pulling on levers all over again. I don't want someone else to fail, nor to succeed. I want myself to succeed, and I attempt to fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 06:02 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?And I love that you conveniently highlight that women make less than men dollar for dollar But make more hour for hour. as if we’re crying about it Well uh, ya are. Really though, I just picked something to illustrate that even if women earn less than men (which they do) as a gender, they also don't pay more than men (as a gender). If I choose to work 45 hours a week, and I make 1,000 and you choose to work 33 hours per week, and make 750 And we both pay identical taxes (we don't, but lets jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 04:58 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Never mind the atomic bomb, which has a very real possibility to end all life on earth, 2,056 atomic bombs have been detonated as of 2017. Most dangerous invention to date… because it benefits women? Dangerous because it allows for uncontrollable propaganda, and the removal of facts from large scale social engineering, at the largest scale (world wide) that has ever been deployed. If anyone is contributing their fair share It wouldn't be women as a gender, even if it was you as an individual, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?you can’t take a sample size of women and say that this is how ALL women feel You’re using the perspective of one person to confirm your opinion My husband is blah blah blah and I’m Edit - Also, like I said, my husband makes me Have you figured it out yet? You're the only one using a sample size of "anecdote". Say it with me, incel. Women are individuals. Ahh yes, the sexual insult! A cherry on top. When you can't win a debate, insult the speaker! Tell me, do you find it appropriate wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 04:07 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?What does men holding primarily all construction positions If men and women both use the roads equally, but women cry 'wage gap' that they earn .80c on the dollar, and they work less hours on average than men, than they are paying into the roads they use equally, yet pay less for. Additionally, men pay with their labor, as road construction, like all construction is significantly more taxing to your body than most other forms of work (including mine). In a world of women construction workers, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?I’m sure your balls aren’t going anywhere near anyone’s mouth. I'm not sure you're thinking of the right type of ball. Summer child. I’ve never cheated on my husband and never would. I respect him Yes, this is frequently said too. You followed up your tabloid links with another tabloid, congrats. Nice try. Labeling science that doesn't agree with your social preference is something the left is very good at, and is the entire reason I became independent. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sage-jo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 03:37 AM |
| 0 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?You mean the high earning liberal women that cheat on their significant others with people like me and bitch about their boring and un-masculine male partners before I shove a ball in their mouth? Those friends? Let's not pretend to be so elevated in our ivory towers when your bedsheets tell differently. Here is the link behind the "tabloid" towards the study: Benevolent Sexism and Mate Preferences: Why Do Women Prefer Benevolent Men Despite Recognizing That They Can Be Undermining? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?You’re using the perspective of one person to confirm your opinion My husband is blah blah blah and I’m I'm using statistics, you're using "the perspective of one person". The truth is often very unattractive to the demographic it most favors. Liberal Women prefer conservative men Wealthy liberal women, prefer men from the "right" side of the political spectrum. "Especially in bed", “Liberal men are less masculine.” I'll give you 1 guess as to which political camp occupies "sensitive, creati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 03:00 AM |
| 3 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?black pill nonsense Specifically this will always be related to the size of a woman's dating 'pool'. A woman who chooses not to engage in OLD will have a far smaller pool, so those non-looks qualities will often be more important, and advice given to non-attractive men is that they'll often have more success socially than on OLD, and BPS shows that as well. However, OLD is the statistically most likely way a new couple will start a relationship (not just a hookup) in the United States. The data … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 02:53 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Lol, I notice you cut out a pretty important part of the reply, but I'd be happy to shred this one all the same. Roads: Men pay for the roads, and build the roads. Women comprise only 10% of the construction crews. Police department: women are far more likely to call 911 than men are. Women are also far less likely to be arrested, even though they interact with police at similar rates. K-12 school system? This was a dumb one to bring up. Across the US, fewer boys are graduating. If men's tax d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 02:37 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?Packed into the social programs that protect women, but not men. 2000+ Domestic violence shelters government sponsored that cater to women. 2 that cater to men. Women and men both spend into the taxes pool, but the vast majority of spending of it goes to women. That is where your cut is. Where is mine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 01:27 AM |
| 1 | If the idea of being denied sex in a relationship is wrong, then why is it wrong that women won’t lower their standards to be with men they’re not attracted to, while at the same time risking their own sexual incompatibility?A big part of the problem in your scenario is that you acknowledge that women are sexually turned on by a variety of factors. This give's Bob's non-visual skills a chance. And then you completely neglect to acknowledge that Bob pays taxes towards Barb, but she doesn't pay towards him. The gov't ensures that the non-visual skills that Bob possesses are already being provided to Barb, without offering Barb (or Bob) the opportunity (or need) to find them sexually appealing in the wild. Bob is now c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Right, so here's the basic rub: You'll fuck both guys. So if I have to give advice to men, its going to be Go with Rippedx2. Why? Most women will fuck x1, or x2. More of the women who want x2 will not fuck x1 than the other way around. This means that if you want to maximize your chance of getting fucked, you'll go with X2. X2 can also get into a relationship and take time off to become X1, but the reverse is not true. X2 is always the better bet for men to pursue. So if TRP was being the 'S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 12:52 AM |
| 0 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?construct a nice little fantasy I didn't construct anything. He's definitely attractive, don't get me wrong, and I'd sleep with him. But dating and LTRs has other factors Get ripped and get laid. AF/BB. The other guy is hardly average, we're not discussing "average or gym" we're discussing "ripped or rippedx2", and the first thing you said was Rippedx2 is "definitely attractive and I'd sleep with him". Those other traits are only necessary when we're talking about non-sexual things, and you'll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?You also confirmed that the super-cut guy gets fucked, and then you'd move on to a lower maintenance guy when it was time to date/ltr. Exactly the AF/BB theory. If a guy is none of the above, looking like Mr. Super cut will get him laid. All it takes is one accidental pregnancy you decide to keep with Mr. Supercut, and whammo, cycle complete. Time to find Mr. BB. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 12:17 AM |
| 8 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?Muscle Masculine Dominant Sarcastic Fighting Ambition Stoic Competent And they say TRP is wrong. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand?I like how it was completely unnoticed how hard this reply confirms AF/BB theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/21 11:56 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All]How high is the bar for being “girlfriend material”?Most people date within their educational/class/socio-economic bracket. Specifically, women marry at 0%-10% up, and men marry at 0-10% down, gender wide. Dating is a very different subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/21 11:38 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]How high is the bar for being “girlfriend material”?This nonsense is brought up frequently. The PPD trend for wanting women barefoot and semi-literate Please cite me enough examples (really, any) of this "trend", because it's basically progressive garbage making intellectually dishonest statements to pejoratively look down on people you disagree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/21 11:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The intractable problem of women as reward.Society isn’t going to change because a minority of men think they deserve better than they’re getting. You realize that the revolutionary war was fought by only 25% of american men, and that number is considered extremely high. Society definitely changed because a minority of men though they deserved better than they were getting. 10% is plenty to change a country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 08:02 AM |
| 2 | Couples are happier when the woman is the more attractive of the pair.So, I'm not as familiar with black pill theory (and it doesn't negatively apply to me), I've always assumed it was more extremist than necessary, so I've pulled up what wikipedia had to say: The "black pill" generally refers to a set of commonly-held beliefs in incel communities, which include biological determinism, fatalism, and defeatism for unattractive people.[87] Believers are referred to as being "blackpilled".[88] The black pill has been described by Vox correspondent Zack Beauchamp as "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/21 04:21 AM |
| 2 | Couples are happier when the woman is the more attractive of the pair.She changed your quote there chief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.More to do about fairness than anything Sports are not about natural 'fairness', only arbitrary fairness. What's the difference? The hoop in basketball is the same for all players, 10 feet high. It's an arbitrary rule that someone decided, and all players stick to it. Players with more testosterone, and therefore better leg muscles, have an easier time reaching the hoop. Players who are taller also have an easier time. These are the rules, and everyone involved is aware when they sign up. Player… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 04:41 AM |
| 1 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.I'm just currently opposed to letting transwomen who transition post puberty into women's sports willy nilly) Doesn't sound like "gender is just a social construct" to me. Men are men, women are women, and there are lots of examples of genetically broken people that we once upon a time would have gotten rid of because their fractional quantity isn't relevant. And good to see your bias here as well, you're only opposed to men coming into womens sports, not women going into mens. We don't care abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 03:20 AM |
| 2 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.So, circumcision affects both. Women are restricted around abortion. Men are also restricted around abortion, men have no rights over the outcome of his sexual output. Women have far more control over the impregnated fetus than men do, and always have. Men are 90% of prisoners, pretty sure that's restricting men's bodies. Men are 99%+ of soldier deaths, and very few countries have female conscription, while most/many have male conscription. Pretty sure that's restricting men's bodies. Men pay 90… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 03:17 AM |
| 1 | One reason people hate the red pill is because society, especially women, have a desire to keep people in their tier/league.While i can't remember the last time a woman randomly murdered men in the name of feminism You're equating Men and Women in their manner of violence. Men perform physical violence because they are more built for it, and women social violence, because they are more built for that. Arguing one is "better" than the other isn't very useful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 03:09 AM |
| 7 | Curiosity: How do men here feel about legalizing sex work?I typically try to avoid moral judgment on these types of questions because of how arbitrary the answer is. There is nothing morally wrong with banning abortion or prostitution, as long as you're clearly articulating the reasons you're doing it, assuming you're a democracy. The concept that we are owed legal sex work is as silly as anyone being owed legal abortion, legalities change constantly by time, location, culture, etc. What is immoral is to be dishonest about what you're doing. If democra… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/21 01:16 AM |
| 7 | Curiosity: How do men here feel about legalizing sex work?I did, though perhaps it wasn't clear. If the law allows for bodily autonomy (such as abortion), than it should allow for prostitution. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/21 01:03 AM |
| 23 | Curiosity: How do men here feel about legalizing sex work?I don't think you can be against sex work if you're for abortion as bodily autonomy, which isnt to say i support or don't support it, merely that i consider them linked. The fact that many places decriminalize sex work but not sex work purchasing, which hits men at 90%+, suggests to me that prostitution illegality is a lot more about controlling men than women. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/21 12:54 AM |
| 6 | Do men make terrible friends? Why is there a dependency on women fixing their loneliness?Why can't you guys rely on reach other for emotional support like women rely on each other on emotional support? Why can't two different things, built differently, with different functions, act the same? Men and women are not the same, they are compatible. Why can't women rely on other women to keep Afghanistan safe from the men in the Taliban? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Yes, environment does indeed play a huge part in how easy it is for men to get partners.But what is easier, doing the best in the environment you're in, or remaking society? Hasn't feminism's argument from the beginning been that we need to change society because some people don't want to do their best in the environment they're in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Women blame men who get rejected for having bad attitudes to avoid appearing shallowWomen in correctional facilities face more violence from women (prisoners, gaurds) than they do from men per capita. Women in correctional facilities ALSO face more violence from other women (prisoners, gaurds) than men take from other men in their respective prisons. Women in prisons are more violent than their male counterparts, and receive more violence from their own gender than their counterparts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 09:59 PM |
| 3 | Study: "Benevolent sexism" linked to parentingThis was the massive truth that hardcore pulled me to the middle from the left. The willful ignorance on the left is staggering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 08:46 PM |
| 4 | Women blame men who get rejected for having bad attitudes to avoid appearing shallowWomen are also socialized to be a bit more empathetic and not necessarily upfront. Not just socialized, but genetically more aware. Female infants have a measured increased response to other's facial expressions than male infants. Girls are literally more aware from birth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 06:32 PM |
| 0 | Women blame men who get rejected for having bad attitudes to avoid appearing shallowPrison statistics would show you that women are more in danger from other women than from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/21 06:28 PM |
| -1 | Women don't want "average" - anything from a man, but they'll accept average traits if they really like the guyMeasuring things creates objective questions and answers. If you base your beliefs on feelings, someone else having objective tools (like measurement) that debunk their felt beliefs will always be rejected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/21 09:05 PM |
| 7 | American culture is simultaneously hyper-sexualized and sanctimoniously puritanWomen (girls) I knew in highschool a million years ago had fake IDs and went out of their way to find men 25+, and often lied to keep them. This notion that you magically don't become an adult until 23-24 is ridiculous. There is a reason we have puberty in both genders, because that is when nature has decided the genders should start co-mingling. Would I rather a woman who was drinking age? Well, it makes it a lot easier to get drinks. Do I care if a 20 year old thinks I'm fun and have a fun lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 09:33 PM |
| 6 | American culture is simultaneously hyper-sexualized and sanctimoniously puritanbut a vast majority are Lol, absolutely zero science to back this up, and younger women / older men is the absolute going back as long as we have recorded history. Do most folks date within +/- 5 years? Yes, and in those relationships, women are typically younger. Go look at any dating subreddit and count the number of women with older men vs women with younger men. I'm 35. 25 year old women match with me first on OLD all the time. Get out of here with your shitty "hurr durr men r da predatorz, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 07:47 PM |
| 1 | It is important not to demonise all women and that is why I am still in this sub. Some women really try to help men.but MRA's need to do it too. Currently, plenty of male MRA do, but they are derided as incels and suchlike. Men are already a significantly less vocal group as a whole, and by design. Men show no in-group bias towards each other the way women do, so men do not intrinsically support men the way women intrinsically support women. This is specifically why women need to help propel men's voices, because a woman's voice is literally louder, and more accepted. An important part of the feminist strateg… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/21 11:15 PM |
| 1 | If you don't want her at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best.So a young beautiful women doesn't want to date the young broke average/ugly dude. But later on, she'd date him when he is still ugly/average but has money. Would this be an even trade? Depends on the time. If a woman dates a 35 year old man, she is essentially buying 10 years of career development/wealth. Given that for most women 35-37 is the age they stop having kids, a 25 year old woman really has a mating 'value' of 10-12 years. Time is a multiplier of value, not a measure of value itself. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 08:25 PM |
| 0 | How hard is it for you to remain left-leaning?Sure. I have less of a progression, and more of a list of what my views evolved into. The left has taken a stance that through the magic powers of MMT, money as debt can be printed ad infinitum with no consequence. Anyone who understands MMT understands that MMT is just a loan from tomorrow, it has to be paid back or a default will occur, we just don't know when. The generation(s) that will pay this back have not consented to this loan, so this is effectively enslaving future generations. The le… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/21 08:13 AM |
| 3 | If you don't want her at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best.If a young beautiful woman wants a young beautiful man, this is an even trade. Beauty takes effort to be in the gym, make diet choices, work on dress, etc. A Young woman with beauty who chases a man who has made a career (25yo woman dating a 35yo man for example) is doing the same, two people who have made a choice (beauty + wealth) thus also have an even trade. The woman is not trading beauty for beauty, she is trading beauty for wealth, and wealth has a measured impact on women's attraction, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 02:00 AM |
| -5 | How hard is it for you to remain left-leaning?I went from Bernie Bro left to hard core libertarian based on what I've learned doing my own research this last 1.5 years. The science and math manipulation and ignorance on the left is astounding. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/21 11:44 PM |
| 8 | It is important not to demonise all women and that is why I am still in this sub. Some women really try to help men.What is needed is for you to literally stand up and say "this isn't true". The strategy being employed is to 'disallow' one gender to participate in the discussion unless they're in agreement, fundamentally totalitarian (disallowance of an opposing viewpoint). When a post comes up anywhere, the men you want to stick around need the women who aren't feminists to say "hey, this isn't true, this doesn't represent me". The feminist men stand with feminist women as a strategic mating strategy (whethe… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/21 11:00 PM |
| 10 | It is important not to demonise all women and that is why I am still in this sub. Some women really try to help men.I would offer that it's extremely important for the not "small minority" to start standing up and being vocal; the 'conflict avoidant' attitude isn't cutting it right now. If you like the men of yesterday, they need you to stand up for them or they won't be around tomorrow. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/21 10:40 PM |
| 3 | Differences of living as a woman vs man (in my experience)I'd like to suggest you crosspost your experiences to purplepilldebate ; this seems like a valuable topic for that subreddit given the increased participation from women | /r/MensRights | 21/07/21 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Study: Most romantic relationships start as friendshipsSexual experience does matter a lot when it comes to discussing how women are and what they are attracted to Then how does historical anthropology work? If you have to participate in order to be an expert, how do we have experts on things people haven't participated in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | What exactly did TRP teach you that normal dating advice doesn't?The sidebar literally claims that women are mentally retarded children Actually it doesn't. It uses a literary vehicle called a metaphor. It just doesn't specify that they're using a metaphor to make a comparison because it assumes the reader isn't an idiot and understands that a metaphor is being used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Study: Most romantic relationships start as friendshipsIt's still a million times better than blindly trusting what bitter virgins claim at TRP attacking sexual experience to negate an intellectual discussion point. Someone in another thread was blasting on about how the geniuses of the world have been largely virgins and such. It's almost as if theoretical virginity isn't a good metric to judge the quality of an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 10:09 PM |
| 4 | Study: Most romantic relationships start as friendshipsIf I claimed that pizza tastes sweet you'd also wonder if I ever even had one. If 200k guys claimed pizza tastes sweet, I'd ask for their experiences and the ingredients in their pizzas. If the ingredients consistently included sugar, we'd be able to make a correlation that sugar increases the sweetness of pizza. TRP takes this same approach. describe what works on a minority of broken and insecure women There are no studies demonstrating that the majority of what TRP discusses are only a mino… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 10:07 PM |
| 2 | What exactly did TRP teach you that normal dating advice doesn't?The stats I've seen demonstrate that conservatives reproduce significantly more than liberal/progressives, including in first world countries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 09:42 PM |
| 0 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?It used to be the minimum for men because women couldn’t earn it themselves, and so needed a man to provide. This is fundamentally still true. Women require legislation restricting men in order to 'fairly' compete in the work marketplace, and women as a whole still consume taxes, not pay them, over the course of their lives. Legislation that says you "can't" discriminate against women for maternity, for example, is in direct contradiction to "not needing" men. If women didn't need men, they woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 07:20 PM |
| -1 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?It is almost always far more efficient to ride the benefits of others creations than to be a creator. Creation requires risk, and far more creators die off to the risks that are associated than people who make up the collective. Take Nikola Tesla, since he's popular. Arguably a genius, but defective. Unable to form the human connections required to reproduce, he produced a pile of things that ultimately died with him; other's decisions to eat rocks and reproduce allowed them to take the sum tota… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 06:31 PM |
| 1 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?Circular argument, "defective" presupposes that our purpose is to reproduce. It is a weird personification of nature. It is a circular argument, because it's self evident. Nothing to do with personification at all. Everything that hasn't reproduced successfully has no purpose, because it doesn't exist anymore. If people's lives don't serve to reproduce the species, but instead individuals serve to affect the species quality of life as a hive, than you're arguing that there is a grand design simi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 06:19 PM |
| 1 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?No it's a perfect term for a group known to have constructed deranged racial classification system they taught in their schools and academies Pretty much every social power structure goes through this process at some point. The United States isn't any different. My point is that you're using Godwin's law to create a "if you don't buy my opinion, you're a literal nazi!" argument, which is a rather poisonous debate strategy. The fact that you're genuinely defending human experimentation carried … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 06:03 PM |
| 1 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?"Purpose" in this sense doesn't exist in nature. I mean, purpose exists in nature all the time. All creatures attempt to reproduce unless they have defective programming or the environment isn't suitable to reproduction (regenerative creatures are neat). All activities that a creature performs are towards its own reproduction, with the exception of defective examples, which wash themselves out of the pool. This is an oddly religious line of thinking, instead of God putting man on earth with so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 05:08 AM |
| -2 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?'Nazi tier pseudoscience' is a strange term for a group arguably known for the incredible advances they made in science, many of which laid the foundations for modern sciences, even if they weren't nice. Experimenting on people probably doesn't fit most people's definition of moral, but it is the most efficient way to find out what people are made of. Of course, they also explored some quack stuff, but so does the American government :CoughProject MKUltraCough: | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 04:59 AM |
| 0 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?The functional problem is that its not about "all" you bring, its about the new "minimum" you must bring. I've gone through life going from homeless to 6 figures with all the toys, and while physical shape + youth gets you decent action, you're still losing to the men around you with money. Interesting hobbies came along when I had the cash to support them; being boring is cheap. Are women capable of love and respect? Absolutely, but it's more often based on what you're able to provide for her l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 12:25 AM |
| -4 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?Sure it does. We're all functionally monkeys whose sole purpose is to reproduce. If you fail to reproduce, you've failed your sole purpose. If you choose not to reproduce, your decisions were defective and your genes cleaned themselves out of the gene pool as defective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 12:01 AM |
| 3 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?SAHDs are only about 7% of SAHPs; and a woman significantly out earning her husband is 3x more likely to divorce her husband than if a man significantly out earns his wife. Being a SAHD is suicide if your life doesn't turn out perfect. There isn't a line of Single women or Single moms in the 35-45 bracket that want a recycled SAHD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 11:55 PM |
| 5 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?Women are not the arbiters of male worth. Evolution would suggest otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 11:48 PM |
| 11 | In your opinion. When you look at the men around you. What do you think is causing the modern sexlessnes of under 30 men?There are plenty of studies showing that women prefer to pair at their level or up, and men at their level or down, roughly within 10% of their current position. If women climb, because society has created a narrative and financial incentive to do so, then when they arrive at their new height, they will still want to date up. If the average woman measured her independent self at a 4-5-6 and now measures herself at a 5-6-7, she is going to have far fewer equal or above options. If the "women don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Is It Now More Difficult For Not So Attractive Men To Get Partners?The biggest problem with TRP is it advocates men trying to fuck as many women as possible Except it really doesn't. TRP specifically says you need to do this because the odds of finding "the one" in today's marketplace is extremely poor. Instead, men will get into relationships with people who have constant bombardment on their social platforms, providing limitless social and sexual validation, and they've been legislated to need to compete less in the working world. That's right, women compete … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Gender roles and double standardsWomen are outperforming men. They're also getting a huge amount more push (socially and financially) from the government and media. It's almost like more women have been going to college than men since 1980, but hey, sexism is ok when its benefitting you. If its men, its "grow the fuck up". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 10:41 PM |
| – | What is “dating equality?”As selectors, women set the pace for what traits are valuable. Men will like stability when women require stability, its a simple cause and effect. Currently, the AF/BB complaint is that BB men are "stable" and not attractive to women. This makes sense because the world is already so artificially stable (thanks to government intervention) that there is no need for further stability, hence the mate attracting qualities are excitement, looks, etc; basically non-stable attributes, and the relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Is It Now More Difficult For Not So Attractive Men To Get Partners?he thought he was terribly clever too, Ahh, that really subtle dig. If you’ve had such great experiences, why are you so salty that someone else has a great life? Pointing out that you're statements mirror TRP pretty much exactly isn't salty. This is a discussion board where women frequently claim "TRP IS A LIE!" and here you are accidentally confirming it bullet by bullet. My comments have all been about my experiences with dating Yes, they confirm TRP nicely. Does that make you feel like a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 05:19 PM |
| 4 | "The reason why so many men bottle up their emotions is a direct result of the patriarchy".Good bot | /r/MensRights | 15/07/21 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Is It Now More Difficult For Not So Attractive Men To Get Partners?yoga Lol. Maybe right after I check Instagram for any new 'cleansing' rituals™. You sound very angry, bitter and resentful Not really, just not going to give zero pushback to someone who is a classic example of bad thinking and a snobby attitude about said bad thinking. The ability to make a statistically bad set of decisions and come out ahead doesn't make you a good example of anything other than lucky. Seems like the choices I made all worked out pretty well for me Yes, we agree you make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Is It Now More Difficult For Not So Attractive Men To Get Partners?I raised my kid, thanks. No one else. Yes, you picked the statistically "most likely decision to fuck up my kid" option, we agree. Height matters to me because Because you're shallow? Hey, I gotz no problem with it (and I'm 6'1", so its not like I'm just short guy jealous), but you're shallow cause you're shallow. Nothing more to say to it. I have dated heaps of shorter men. I won’t do it again because they all end up butthurt and insecure about it. Ah, so all the men you picked end up with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 09:28 PM |
| 2 | What is “dating equality?”If child support weren't a thing, it would incentivize mating with a partner that would stick around to assist with its raising. Single women with children show a noticeable disdain for single men with children, that men with children don't show for women with children. Why? Because more resources for her. If you want a society with less broke loser dads, stop paying broke loser moms, and let assortive mating sort itself out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 08:51 PM |
| 3 | Is It Now More Difficult For Not So Attractive Men To Get Partners?I don’t need to talk myself into ignoring that a man is six inches shorter than me At least we're admitting that height is.... she’s a shallow idiot Oh. There was literally nothing a man could do for me had a kid So nothing a man could do.... apart from be settled for, left, most likely required to pay child support, so that some other guy could raise his kid, and the kid could end up more fucked up because one of their parents were "settled for". don’t want more All the while the next… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 08:42 PM |
| 1 | What is “dating equality?”I don't suggest there is a way, it's just a thought exercise. Stability is naturally sexier when the world has no stability. We have an abundance of stability now, so passion is sexier. The fact that being a single mother is a government sponsored activity only further stabilizes shitty decision making. Punish people for bad choices (like not paying single parents for being poor and making poor financial decisions) and stability does in fact seem a bit sexier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 02:04 PM |
| 5 | What is “dating equality?”What would “dating equality” look like to you? Dating equality would be measurable in that the efforts of both parties would be within 10%, and the metrics across large swaths of data (such as dating app data) would be within 5%. What do you imagine would be different? Women (as a whole) would need to be willing to risk rejection to get relationships. Men (as a whole) would need to be approached often enough for them to have enough options to decline poor options. What do men and women do differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 12:02 AM |
| 5 | What is “dating equality?”we already have laws for dating; if a guy/gal decide to fuck, she has all sorts of laws protecting her rights to reproduction, and he has none. She has laws that give her the ability to command payment for 18 years, he has nothing that allows him to walk away with the same legal outcome that she has protected for her. Doing away with laws pertaining to payments for children (either child support, or child welfare laws) would fix a significant number of dating issues. There is no reason to pay fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 10:15 PM |
| 2 | What do men have to offer women that is better than feminism?https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/apr/01/the-kingdom-of-women-the-tibetan-tribe-where-a-man-is-never-the-boss Imagine a society without fathers; without marriage (or divorce); one in which nuclear families don’t exist. Grandmother sits at the head of the table; her sons and daughters live with her, along with the children of those daughters, following the maternal bloodline. Men are little more than studs, sperm donors who inseminate women but have, more often than not, little involv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 12:28 AM |
| 4 | I just can't accept that the man is the Captain and the woman is the First Mate.Queens are first mates. Anyone is required to do what the Queen says, unless there is a different order from the King. The King is the only person that the Queen is required to defer to. | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/07/21 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Are you transparent about wanting casual sex?I'm never transparent because I don't know if the woman is worth being transparent with. I can't possibly know that till the morning after sex has occurred. Any woman, casual or otherwise, is in the drivers seat in modern western relationships due to the ways our laws currently function. There is no "equality" in modern relationships, and women don't really want their to be, because that would be a net reduction to their position within the majority of relationships. Instead, I just tell eve… | /r/seduction | 09/07/21 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Most women don't have "different standards for different men". There's different standards for hookups and different standards for relationships.gets a guy assigned to the hookup column Is hot. This means go to the gym, have an idea how to dress/smell, etc. Is confident. Know's how to escalate via flirtation. Know's how to tease. Willing to walk away. assigned to the hookup column as opposed to the relationship material column Has undesirable traits that don't disqualify from fucking, either once or regularly. A guy can be genuinely misogynistic knowing that being hot will still get him sex. He can then casually fuck plenty of women,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | This idea that it’s only men who “pump-and-dump” women only applies to women below a certain looks threshold.Ah. Well, I've been with plenty of women who didn't like recieving oral, but that said, none of them disliked getting their buttons pushed elsewise. I've never heard a man dislike oral, so there is some basis to his different rules comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 04:26 AM |
| 1 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?You mean like where I twice pointed out that men who earn equally to their women partners spend their income on their partner, and less so on themselves? If a man and woman make 50k each, and the woman is the benefit of 65k of that, than the man is supporting the woman for 15k. Is it 100% No, nor does it have to be to be "financially supporting". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 03:00 AM |
| 1 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?Unless you're a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 02:45 AM |
| 1 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?Tons of men are traditional. The vast majority say nothing, largely due to modern cancel culture, and the traditional value of not airing dirty laundry. Men also don't flock to or have trendy social movements, so you know, you actually have to talk to them. They being people in general. Society is better run by the ant than the grasshopper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 02:31 AM |
| 2 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?I.e. things that don't "age out". Its almost like they picked for longer term values than looks. Huh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 02:21 AM |
| 1 | This idea that it’s only men who “pump-and-dump” women only applies to women below a certain looks threshold.Is this a thing or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 01:34 AM |
| 1 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?Wrong again. Look at the expenditures of regular single men vs regular single women. Men live significantly cheaper. If a 50k guy and a 50k gal get together, the vast amount of spending will be towards the woman and her requests or needs. This is still men supporting women. Financial support doesn't have to be "I pay everything". If the couple makes 100k and 65k goes towards the woman, that is the man financially subsidizing (supporting) her. I cut and paste for you since its literally 2 parag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 12:29 AM |
| 1 | This idea that it’s only men who “pump-and-dump” women only applies to women below a certain looks threshold.chasing orgasms over substantive relationships Well, men do need to stop being so fucking terrible at this. Orgasms cause people to release oxytocin; if a guy cums and the girl doesn't, he bonds to her but not she to him. Women can easily be made to cum several times per go. Men sucking at this is inexcusable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 11:45 PM |
| 1 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?Weird that I'm 35 and I've only been on one fancy date then. And that date the guy insisted "it wasn't a date". Then perhaps you're not worth the price of a date. I'm 35, and I go on real dates to real places with real food. I also evaluate if the woman I'm with is selling her shit for cheaper on the side. Women set the price of sex, not men. Sounds like you're running a discount 7/11. And all men are loud as fuck that y'all hate doing this. Which is strange if you're saying men also love gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 11:23 PM |
| 0 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?OHHH so men like taking me out on dates and paying and being the sole provider now? I can quit my job once i get married? You realize this is still the vast expectation, from women, right? That men must make more money than they do? Stats are pretty clear on what happens when women make more. Are the working poor still relegated to 2 earner households? Yea, and the men are still expected to work and make more there too. And no, on no planet do women pay for dates in any measurable quantity. At… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 10:59 PM |
| 1 | If you agree that young attractive women leverage their looks for high level Men, doesn't it then make sense when successful Men later cheat or leave their older wives?what other strategy could we use? Like, literally what else do men care about besides these fleeting things that we don't control? Nothing. Being a feminine partner is not fleeting thing if you don't want it to be. Feminism decided that trad roles were bad, not men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 10:27 PM |
| 2 | A woman's "hypergamy" vs a man's "hypergamy"higher economic and social status than themselves. Is how the paper describes it, and is generally the accepted definition. the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background. is the dictionary definition, and one can likely be reasonable and argue that social status and educational background can be hand in hand. We do generally regard a Masters/PHD as being a "better catch" in men. here strictly applies to marriage and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 06:36 PM |
| 2 | The only reason women are happier while single than men is because they get validation and sex much easierIf men could get casual sex as easy as women, most would not even get into relationships. This is of course, the complaint women have about men who have options. The "why would I get into a relationship when I can fuck for free". It's just that when Men do it to women, its "shitty behavior", and when women do it to men its "women empowerment". In fact if it was like this, women would become hateful and bitter that even average men dont want to settle down because he has a rotation of women to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 06:17 PM |
| 9 | A woman's "hypergamy" vs a man's "hypergamy"You could argue that it's applied by men to towards women more often than the reverse, but its not a special, incorrect, or misappropriated term towards women. iza institute of labor economics paper research paper on Hypergamy in Norway. http://ftp.iza.org/dp12185.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0UMikNGiqSEZxdyKZ71-wiPMegJqBW-s5aRnZUW4qbGvZ0T-NPWtKN03w unless you're saying that the iza institute of labor economics is a misogynist org or part of the manosphere, which would be ridiculous, or the million plus per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Is it ever okay to tell a very unattractive man to focus on something else besides wanting to date? (Genuine)Like what “biologically attractive traits”? I’m not repulsed by his looks So you have an attractive partner? "Like what" biologically attractive traits indeed. Your appreciation for your man is directly influenced by his appearance. Your enjoyment of that attention is tied to his appearance. You've relegated 50% of the traits you enjoy (looks and mannerisms) directly to genetics. He did nothing to 'earn' his looks, as none of us really do. I don’t need his penis, his income, or his violence/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it ever okay to tell a very unattractive man to focus on something else besides wanting to date? (Genuine)And did you know that 'like each other's company' has been predicated on biologically attractive traits forever and has little to do with your appreciation for his train collection? edit: That’s because “providing” is not necessary If women didn't need men's subsidization to compete in this world, there wouldn't be programs to take money from one, and give to the other. Women are not independently functional units without a pile of men contributing to a social pool for them to withdraw from "i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 09:44 PM |
| 4 | Is it ever okay to tell a very unattractive man to focus on something else besides wanting to date? (Genuine)And relationships will be transactional, just like they are wherever women are disadvantaged. Relationships are already transactional. There are no significant portion of women running around with provide-nothing-special men. Proven things that make men attractive: Genetics (give me your genetic material and I will give you sex) Wealth (give me your physical material and I will give you sex) Both are transactional. If women were not catered to by our government, there would be a lot more women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 08:33 PM |
| 3 | Is it ever okay to tell a very unattractive man to focus on something else besides wanting to date? (Genuine)What is the solution, though? The solution is to let the free market do what it does. Women, nor men, should be subsidized for anything. Eat what you kill fixes most of these issues. And if you don't kill? You don't eat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 08:29 PM |
| 5 | Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue. Are We Worried Yet?Are you really saying liberal karens aren't common? Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/21 08:23 PM |
| 5 | Female MRAs:Imagine being the gender that constantly complains of being sexualized and then sexualizing other members of your own gender when you don't like what they have to say. "Ladies, how would you keep your man if you lost your vagina?," Patrice O'Neal asked his audience. When the women would invariably reference oral & anal sex acts, the comedian would respond, "See, I gave you the chance to talk and you qualified yourself as a series of holes." But hey, it's men who reduce women to sex, not wome… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/21 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Question to Women: how much of a factor is male fashion?I'm pointing our that your solution is essentially sexist. I'm not debating if cargo shorts are attractive or not (that's up to the person I want to attract, not me). Essentially, your solution is that it's ok for women to carry lots of stuff, but not men. Men carrying backpacks is not going to be a thing, women aren't out there commenting on how attractive men with purses are, and men simply don't comment on women's bag situation because guys have no reason to care how a woman carries what. And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 09:13 PM |
| 0 | Question to Women: how much of a factor is male fashion?So you're proposing men carrying purses is the solution? lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?More women are having more sex. Tons of places/people/etc are trying to blame it on video games, poverty (which doesn't impact womens sex, only mens), etc etc. Go through any of the PPD polls for women, and even out of relationships a huge portion just keep 1-3 guys around for sexual needs, and discard them casually when its LTR time. That is not the experience for men, so saying "women want it less" when there is no data supporting that is nothing but sexism. Women want it less because they alr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?Right, but you're also not taking the distributions into account. If both sides had given each other bell shaped curves, things would like up in the manner you reference and the results would be better. As it is, when there are 100 men, and 100 women, the more even distribution of women who were rated 7-10s in looks than when we look at men's ratings given given by women. So if there are 20% 7-10 women (20 women using our simple numbers), and there are only 5% men (so 5 men), you'll see 20 women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?Lol, this isn't supported at all, when women find 80% of men less than attractive, and men find 50% of women attractive. Men are a standard bell shaped curve in their treatment of women. Women are not of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?Single men can lift a 300lb rock over their head, why can't women do that? Men and women are not the same. They have lots of similarities, but lots of differences. Men and women get validation differently, and from different sources. Modern tech has come on far too fast for human's unevolved programming. Takes a lot more than 100 years to change a species, but not more than 100 years to go from ground-bound-apes to self driving cars and rocketships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?They don't 'need' to do anything. Large groups of disgruntled men find different ways of solving problems. Imagine telling an entire gender they need to change because you want them to, and expecting them to give a shit about anything that comes out of your mouth afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?Women nowdays can live perfectly fine without men. Women can create own family by using sperm bank Imagine thinking that this somehow isn't reliant on men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?The data clearly shows that women are having more sex, not less. If women were less desiring of sex, it would be the other way around. Specific men are not having sex (the bottom 80%). The top men are having all the sex they could want. Women in general get sex easily, and have it often. Compare equal spots on the measurement chain, and women have more sex then men all the way up until the top 80-90th percentile of men. STD studies bear this out as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 08:33 PM |
| 2 | Kik me katephilip999 let's sexKik you, you say? https://youtu.be/g9fIjYnPazc | /r/seduction | 23/06/21 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating MarketHaha, how perfect of you to wish youd killed your son because of some words on the internet. So rational, much wow. I guess you'd be disappointed that unfuckable has never been on my list of problems. Tell me, how many generations of women survive without men? Just one. One half of something, not enough on its own. Just like men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating MarketWomen are autonomous human beings. No they're not, they require a male to continue existing. Let's not pretend pregnant women are running around killing dinner and protecting themselves. We don’t exist to be prizes for successful men, we exist to realize our own destinies. Again, nope. Your destiny is literally to produce offspring or all of your choices (and the species) die with you. This is no different for men. You know how you have a sense that you’re your own person? Women have that to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/21 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating MarketSo, we can (and are) regulating men already. Thats the major reason laws exist at all, to regulate men. In exchange, those men get a voice for things they want: to reproduce, and all the trappings to go with that. Women, by and large, are a motivational prize for men in evolution. If you perform the right way, you get to reproduce. Women are the eugenics gatekeepers of what "the right way" is. Equality folks completely disregard the sexist reality of biological imperative: reproduce at all costs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/21 04:34 AM |
| 1 | What about Kevin Samuels and his ideas that has made him the most popular redpiller?Did you ever stop to wonder why black women in particular were raised to find the most toxic type of man attractive? Well, given that single black women are raising the women that find toxic men attractive, it seems fair to point out that single black women are teaching their daughters to prefer the men you're referring to as toxic. Hard to blame dads for raising kids the wrong way in the same sentence you blame them for not sticking around to raise kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating MarketWestern civilization has been steadily moving towards greater equality and democratization. Only sorta, really it has just socialized slavery via taxation. Men are payers of tax, and women consumers (overall). "Equality" has shown to bankrupt every society it has been implemented in (or will shortly), except those societies which can offset the costs of "equality" with abundant natural resources. China and Japan have started to see men walk away from society en masse, and their economic systems … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 11:13 PM |
| – | How many of the men complaining about the dating scene are actually worthy of dating?People who tell you "you're the guy I would want" and are genuine about it would literally take you for themselves. These people are lying; they're looking at your paper stats and saying: if you gave me the tingles, you have the other stats i'd want That isn't the same. Attraction is simple, and women are notorious for saying "you'd be perfect for my friend" because they're intellectualizing a process for their friend that they don't subscribe to themselves. Their friend would likely do the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating Marketmen like to devalue all female contributions Feminism devalued women's SAHM contributions. Men wrote and passed laws to punish men who abused the youth and fertility of women or attempted to divorce (alimony laws). Feminism was literally voted into power by men in an attempt to appease women's desire for value. If men as a group truly devalued women's roles, no women's laws would ever have been passed. Men will always try to appease women as a biological imperative to mate, but there will never … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating MarketAdditionally, how the trend is going now, women will outearn men and young women are already more educated than their male peers. Young women (20-29) already out earn young men, and have been attending college more than men since 1980. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating MarketThis isn't really the only choice men have. Western cultures current disallow physical force and encourage social force. China has already demonstrated that it will use physical force to minimize social forces if population decline becomes an issue (attacking Feminist movements that discourage child bearing). There is little reason to assume that our government might not make similar moves if our own population / economic decline warranted it. Physical force always resets social force if social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 06:28 PM |
| 3 | Hypergamy and Equality are incompatible in the Dating MarketThere are no permanent human rights except the right to fight (but not the right to win). Anything can be taken away from you, or given to you. Everywhere you go can have different definitions of these rights. The reality is, these rights are determined by whoever runs the government, and social unrest amongst men has been a common denominator in historical revolutions, and those rights dramatically change upon the social changes that occur afterwards. This weird "I can have what I want, I don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 06:16 PM |
| 2 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingRespectfully, this seems to be a road /u/wtknight would prefer not to go down, so i'll abstain from addressing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 05:37 AM |
| 1 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingAnd i've no problems with a tingles match paying for its own problems/children. The state shouldn't be subsidizing bad partnerships. If a woman picks a tingle partner who doesn't turn out to be a good partner and ends up a single mom, that's on her. I'm all for allowing choice and requiring the privilege of choice to come with the consequence of responsibility. Some folks might instead choose resources and less tingles, and they'd have their own consequences (trading tingles for security which i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 03:21 AM |
| 1 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingI like this dance to attempt to get me into an offensive label to use a strawman down the road. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 02:52 AM |
| 0 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingI don't think acknowledgement of similarities is quite in league with justifying anything, but I assume you're worried about the subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 02:50 AM |
| 2 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingBetter tell my voting record I'm a conservative. That guy is in for a shock. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 02:45 AM |
| 6 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingWhat does that have to do with anything? Incels are not incels because of a choice they made, that's what it has to do with anything. You made a choice to be fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 11:58 PM |
| 1 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingYou're the only one mentioning trend. Pedophiles, like LGBTQ+, are not social constructs, but rather genetics. Pedophiles don't choose to be attracted to children. But nice job trying to sly call me a pedo. Really gives you the gold here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 11:53 PM |
| 3 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisinga woman would have to prove her pregnancy was the result of rape Well, in most places a woman reports her rape, and the government works to prove it. If the government could not prove it, or discovered that it was not rape, then there would be no reason for compensation. Making the statement "I was raped" does not qualify anyone to special licensure to extract resources from others just on the basis of having said something. This is why false allegations need to carry a penalty, because otherwis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 11:51 PM |
| 8 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingI'm fat so easy to imagine. No, it's not. You're fat because you make the choice to stuff your face more than you run your legs, simple as that. There are oceans of people and content for you to consume to get slim. You could literally stop doing anything and just not eat, and lose weight. To compare that to an incel is a wonderful demonstration of what life is like when you're as privileged as they come. These guys consume any content they can, made up or otherwise, to try to get better with wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 08:42 PM |
| 8 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingIncels also won't take responsibility for their actions and blame others that their feelings are hurt. Women also won't take responsibility for their actions and blame others that their feelings are hurt. Sounds about the same, doesn't it. We're all choice driven creatures trying to maximize our own benefits, while minimizing our own costs. Men are far more honest about the state of the union, because men are tasked by women to perform. "Go out into the world, accomplish, and return to me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 08:24 PM |
| 8 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingThat's what the incels have been saying to you. Doh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 08:00 PM |
| 4 | How to have better flow of life?behind PC at home. I work in tech as well, so please understand that I very much understand this lifestyle. STOP IT. The best thing that ever happened to me at home was mining Ethereum, to be frank. I sat down to play a game one day and realized I'd have to make less money if I wanted to play that day, and I couldn't justify spending money to play games every day. It really brought home the idea that your time IS your currency. Go to the gym. Join meetup groups. Start other social hobbies. Don't… | /r/seduction | 18/06/21 07:15 PM |
| 0 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingYou've misinterpreted what he was saying. The state would offer the assistance to provide a mother with the choice to do what she wants to do with that child/fetus. Nothing would be forced. The state should then recoup compensation from the perpetrator. But there would be no social "reward" for keeping it, if that decision was made by the mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 06:55 PM |
| 9 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingWhen you are ready to listen to woman See, this was always the problem with people like you. You assume that sitting down and having a conversation means that someone is required to listen to you based on your gender. Your gender doesn't prequalify you for anything. Eat what you kill is literally how the world works. You're just lucky enough to have been born the gender that incentivizes others with your body to kill for you. I'm not "mad at women", so doing the "casual insult as a parting state… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 06:49 PM |
| 10 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingi do agree on some of these, they would be effective without being too extreme, Right now society builds supports for bad behavior for women, and penalizes bad behavior for men. This is why prisons are filled with men, why men get harsher sentences for the same crimes (and why men are more likely to be convicted of those crimes). A libertarian stance here (penalize no one, support no one) would largely reset a lot of social issues. One of the constant arguments you'll see feminism use is "White … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 06:26 PM |
| 8 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingYou have any proof this was true before men created a community wide value of manifest destiny? Do I have any proof that women were 27% more likely to be rulers who started wars in the EU before the EU expanded to America? Yea, a history book. You're welcome to look it up. It turns out, you can't just walk around yelling "that's because the PATRIARCHY" to every single comment you disagree with. Women as a gender are statistically proven to be more violent than men when paired up, and that's with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 06:11 PM |
| 10 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingThat's the point. There is no need to "expand" which means you start wars with your neighbors. Women are 80% of the consumer market. Consuming is expanding. Women rulers in the EU were historically 27% more likely to start wars. Don't come at me with your "that's male logic", women are only too happy to point out that men will live in tiny one bedrooms and play xbox and never "achieve". "Achieving" is expanding. Men built empires and expanded, it's true. But they did it because women wanted it. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 05:35 PM |
| 8 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingNo it's not. Can you name for me a civilization that was established peacefully, and which expanded peacefully? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 05:29 PM |
| 11 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingbut I would like to hear what some people would suggest to ease the issue If by ease, you mean prevent/limit: Gov't regulation of social media influence limit. For instance, social dating changes drastically if dating apps are restricted to 50 mile radius, where once again locality matters. Re-incentivization of the family structure; usefully penalize people (of all genders) who break marital contracts. Remove social nets keeping the incentives to become a single mother. Frankly, un-popular opin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 05:20 PM |
| 10 | I don't believe that a beta uprising will happen, instead, a beta downrisingIn any point of time in history before, if a group of men were barred from something they wanted or needed , they would take it be force. Women are no exception to that. That's bad. This is how terrorists think. This is how everyone thinks. Whether you use propaganda to emotionalize the masses, or guns to terrorize the opposition, everything is taken by force or by threat of force. Very little of the world truely gives up anything for free. The United States, for instance, was founded by ter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/21 05:08 PM |
| 5 | What argument here has changed your mind?Women WANT men. No, women want stats. Women want status. Women want top selection, with a backup option and the option to climb higher if the opportunity comes along. Male rage specifically has to do with being betrayed, because they've been lied to. I was not really "RP aware" until about 9 months ago, and it was interesting how many "hey, I noticed that a long time ago, this is obvious" moments I had. Women and society (which is really just collective women) tell men wrong and damaging things … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 08:35 PM |
| -1 | Women are disingenuous when complementing each other as a way to appear better than they areThe average american man is actually overweight, not obese. And women are widening the gap. Where women in the 1950s were significantly less overweight than men on average, women are now gaining more and more speed towards the overweight wino blobdom. Yes, being told that being a lardass is acceptable and that you're beautiful no matter how you look, contributes. You're not beautiful; you're obese. Maybe you're nice, maybe you have a great personality, maybe you'll die of type two diabetes becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 05:28 PM |
| 9 | Women are disingenuous when complementing each other as a way to appear better than they areTranslation: Women would rather lie to/ be lied to, because its easier to get validation for your shitty behavior/lifestyle than own up to the truth and take it like an adult and take accountability. Guys support each other by telling each other the truth. A fat fuck is a fat fuck. At least he isn't under a delusion that he doesn't need to hit the gym. The average american woman is obese. This type of bullshit contributes heavily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 09:54 PM |
| 70 | How gender still shapes how we date[These women] express comfort asserting financial independence, personal autonomy, and a desire for an egalitarian partnership. The progress they have made, however, has perhaps led them to believe that they can pick and choose between gendered meanings with no consequences. This sounds like exactly what a large portion of the reddit and various MRA/MGTOW/TRP types say: they can pick and choose between gendered meanings with no consequences. They want sexism, but only beneficial sexism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/06/21 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Having Standards is a Good ThingFair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 08:31 AM |
| 3 | Having Standards is a Good ThingThis seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of game theory to me, and given that men typically play more war games than women, it doesn't surprise me. Men and Women objectively have a goal as a species, to reproduce. Every single man or woman who chooses to (or doesn't choose to) die alone is a failure, whether society tells them they're special or not, as their genetics don't pass on, so those decisions likely don't pass on. This is why there aren't more gay people, because those genes lite… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 07:56 AM |
| 2 | Having Standards is a Good ThingAll lawful preferences are valid, So you're in agreement that if laws were to change to become more oppressive towards one gender or the other, that would be valid? I have a hard time acknowledging that any such temporary popularity vote implies any lasting moral implication. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 07:39 AM |
| 1 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?These weren't the questions presented, so I didn't answer them. Men have traditionally been the partner who cheated more in traditional relationships. Women are the partner who cheat more in modern relationships, so is that better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 01:32 AM |
| 0 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?Men are both typically the bigger risk taking gender, and more willing to put up with poor quality sexual partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 10:42 PM |
| 1 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?I didn't vote for trump, in either election. Nice try though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:41 PM |
| 5 | Men seem to suffer in silence so much.Whoever downvoted this, fuck you. You downvoted someone who shared that he can't share his emotions without being downvoted by those around him, and you replied by downvoting him. Fuck you. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/21 09:30 PM |
| 7 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?The uncomfortable reality is that the modern liberal doesn't like or understand the cost of the throne they sit and complain from. There are only two realistically considered alternatives from the current <single currency reserve> system, and that is that trade once again resumes by basing currency value on a commodity (which sharply interferes with a gov'ts ability to manipulate its currency supply, and thus influence it's own economic stability), or to go to a currency basket scenario, which i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 07:37 PM |
| 6 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?curb the military spending a bit help the struggling people in our country live peacefully, healthily, and without fear. The dollar is backed by a military agreement that is showing its age. When the dollar ceases to be backed by bombs, you'll see massive inflation (current IMF estimates put the dollar at 40% of its current value). That isn't going to help the struggling in any way shape or form. You can't simply stop funding the military, when the military is what gives your dollars value in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 06:33 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismBackwards logic. Men cant prove themselves if women arent advertising for it. You dont launch a product there is no market for. There is no market for it because women dont want it. Hypergamy has been proven. Right or wrong, women marry at equal earnings or one step up, men at equal earnings or one step down Your "bet" already been disproven. And hours worked per day has also been shown to be only about 20 minutes total extra work by women, the majority of which is "unskilled labor" at home, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 09:45 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismStats show 2/3s of people dislike their jobs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 08:27 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismAnd yet, why are so many men opposed to the idea of being a stay at home parent, if it’s in fact soooooo easy? Women don't want men who stay home, simple as that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 08:20 PM |
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| 1 | A discussion about the state of OLD, and how it is as a woman, and what to do as a man.Thanks for the feedback, edited to reflect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:46 AM |
| 1 | A discussion about the state of OLD, and how it is as a woman, and what to do as a man.Thanks for the feedback, edited to reflect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:46 AM |
| 1 | A discussion about the state of OLD, and how it is as a woman, and what to do as a man.You're saying that because I agree the market isn't in a great place, that I should be a believer in playing in a way that gets poor results? That doesn't make much sense to me, unless I've misunderstood what you've said. 99% of OLD is getting your foot in the door. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:30 AM |
| 1 | A discussion about the state of OLD, and how it is as a woman, and what to do as a man.Of course not, I was just trying to make sure I understood what you were stating. I definitely think OLD can get better, but we'll have to play by certain rules (or not play at all) until then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:27 AM |
| 2 | A discussion about the state of OLD, and how it is as a woman, and what to do as a man.You might be surprised, but I actually tend to agree with you on a wholistic stance. The problem is that this is the world we're in now, and if you're a guy wanting to find a partner, OLD is getting more and more popular with time, not less. This conversation isn't about the "healthy" of the dating world, because I agree with you, it's very unhealthy. If it's unhealthy and you have to play in it, however, than it's worth knowing how to play. There are rules to it. This post by no means is a just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:21 AM |
| 1 | A discussion about the state of OLD, and how it is as a woman, and what to do as a man.So you're simply stating that because short term relationship folks are in the same pool as long term relationship folks, and people will lie to get their short term fill, we'll continue to see the same patterns play out in your belief? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:15 AM |
| 1 | A discussion about the state of OLD, and how it is as a woman, and what to do as a man.How would you separate the sex and dating market? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:12 AM |
| 1 | "Don't complain that you're hungry when there's a perfectly good hot dog on the ground"If you wanna collab, I'd be happy to throw some shit your way for you to respond to, interview style. Otherwise, s'cool to have someone around not cappin from the other side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 07:01 AM |
| 4 | "Don't complain that you're hungry when there's a perfectly good hot dog on the ground"Just responding in line to keep the flow, this is more of a reply to woxmei and anyone that read's my chat history will know I don't have a problem putting FDS shit in its place, but we gotta keep all the yards clean, can't just be policing others. There's no reasons to take this sorta chat private anyways. This is a debate forum; bring your shit and stand on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:11 AM |
| 4 | "Don't complain that you're hungry when there's a perfectly good hot dog on the ground"Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Someone's been watching that F&F. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 05:54 AM |
| 6 | "Don't complain that you're hungry when there's a perfectly good hot dog on the ground"Legit, you should post a thread giving your perspective on the situation at large. You see people at large giving you respect for keeping it real, and to be frank, that's the hardest thing to get right now from women when it comes to this sorta shit. It's pretty terrible that more women can't just be honest and recognize that the world they live in is completely different from the world these guys live in, and then chastise them for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Are men in the aggregate putting less effort into themselves, into dating, into career, into life, etc. than they used to? If so, what might be causing it?“It is more difficult to undermine faith than knowledge, love succumbs to change less than to respect, hatred is more durable than aversion, and at all times the driving force of the most important changes in this world has been found less in a scientific knowledge animating the masses, but rather in a fanaticism dominating them and in a hysteria which drove them forward.” ― Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 01:01 AM |
| 9 | Are men in the aggregate putting less effort into themselves, into dating, into career, into life, etc. than they used to? If so, what might be causing it?There will be nothing. At this point, only the narrative is important until the narrative is broken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 12:59 AM |
| 8 | Are men in the aggregate putting less effort into themselves, into dating, into career, into life, etc. than they used to? If so, what might be causing it?Single women outearn single men. As noted in the recent thread, women are outpacing men in education, This is a product of encouraging one gender but not the other, and in fact telling the other gender that they're oppressors just for existing. There many more scholarships, grants, and quotas to get women into college than men, regardless of the fact that women are already overrepresented in college. With college comes higher degrees, and as machinery replaces a lot of lower end labor, degrees… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 12:57 AM |
| 5 | How can I comfort by fiancee?I'm going to add something here that I should have before, I know it's been brought up in RPW before. Make a laundry list of things in your head you've done with previous partners while earning your N-count. Now do each of those things with your guy. Some women really don't understand that men need to "conquer". I'm going to give a simple example; I've known women who don't want anal once they're with their forever partner. This is the wrong attitude. Give everything to your guy, and make sure h… | /r/RedPillWomen | 31/05/21 12:32 AM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?Good bot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 12:10 AM |
| 0 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?I literally read a thread the other day on the redpill subreddit that said if a woman does not submit to your every whim then she should be exclusively used for sex I literally read a series of feminism posts that were all centered around "kill all men" and "all men are shit" Whats your point? I'm not a TRP ally. I'm a fact ally. Being an "ally" puts you in a position where you have to defend rhetoric because you belong to some sort of team, fuck that noise. I have no issue calling out a TRP pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 12:09 AM |
| 7 | Secondary Abuse: When victims speak up.This was a fantastic read. Thank you very much for sharing it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/21 08:58 AM |
| 16 | If you want equality like equal domestic responsibility, then you should want equal financial responsibility in the relationshiptoday, college-educated women outnumber college-educated men. Actually, women in college have outnumbered men since 1980. 50 years of boosting women and saying "they need it more" when they're already ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 05:03 AM |
| 4 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?All that's going to happen here is you're going to try and figure out some reason that men are responsible for women's choices fake stats Center for disease control and the US National Library of Medicine are fake stats? Lol. Bc men are bigger and don’t need to defend themselves as often as women when their partner is hitting them Its ok when women abuse men because men are bigger? Lol. Average Woman in the US: 170.6 pounds and stands at 63.7 inches (almost 5 feet, 4 inches) tall. The aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/21 08:37 AM |
| 3 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?Source? https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/cdc_nisvs_victimization_final-a.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women Additionally, studies of community samples found that a relatively low percentage of women endorsed self-defense as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/21 08:03 AM |
| 3 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?prenuptial agreements Prenuptial agreements should be used to provide extra support as negotiated, not to fix an imbalanced base standard. Marriage laws favor the under-paid partner heavily, and statistically speaking women do not typically marry men who make less than they do. Because of this, imbalance, the laws need to be changed to allow both parties to be treated equally, not based on their incomes. You get what you put into an arrangement, and pre-nup style arrangements should reflect when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/21 07:20 AM |
| 3 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?Women abuse more than men, measured. I believe stats show men are substance abusers more often. Millennial women cheat more than men. Women are statistically significantly more likely to divorce a man who makes less money than they do, yet they demand "equal" pay, and choose who they marry. You can stop trying to move the goal posts around, it's statistically women's choices wrecking marriages. edit: some real irony in trying to blame men for women leaving marriages in a post titled: What does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/21 07:12 AM |
| 3 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?Women divorce men 300% the rate that men divorce women, so lets not pretend here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/21 05:59 AM |
| 5 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?Shouldn't sign a contract you don't want to? The woman also said "till death do us part" So should we get rid of divorce? Can't have it both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/21 05:38 AM |
| 10 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?Anyone who has ever had to pay alimony that they didn't volunteer for. If a partner WANTS to pay another partner, out of the goodness of their heart, go ahead. There should be no legal de facto that rewards a partner for anything. If you want money from a partner for your actions, negotiate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/21 12:14 AM |
| 13 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?Nope, you're welcome to quit your job (or not). Men have no control over that. If you want to be a stay at home wife, it is your responsibility to negotiate for that. If you quit your job to stay at home for a guy who leaves you, and you have no money left and you didn't negotiate for your investment to be protected, that's on you. If you want to turn over control to men, that's a whole other story, and women clearly don't want to turn over control, only responsibility. If that man isn't picki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:43 PM |
| 29 | How can I comfort by fiancee?He feels like he was at the bottom of my list and I just settled for him at the end when I couldn’t do any better. I am so sad to hear this and I want to change his feelings. Make him feel like a conqueror. Make him feel sexually desired. Go out of your way to show him off to other people. Demonstrate to him that you're off the market forever by choice. | /r/RedPillWomen | 28/05/21 11:33 PM |
| 13 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?If men don't want to financially support someone, they shouldn't allow their partner to stay home or work a less demanding job than them. You used the word "allow". Do the men in your life have control over what you do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:25 PM |
| 24 | What does 'taking responsibility' mean?What, specifically, is "responsibility"? Responsibility is acknowledging your portion of the blame for how events turn out. It doesn't mean responding to this reply with "yea but", it means looking specifically at your portion of the blame and asking what you could change next time, or what choices you made that led you to where you are. I'll list out come classic PPD behaviors: He used me for sex. In order to be used for sex, you first have to agree to sex. You have to meet a person, spend ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Advice for the young men out there. I wish I had received thisWhy do you, as a woman, identify with this? | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/05/21 05:34 PM |
| 1 | The uncomfortable truth in the dating realm: women have to be, men have to become.no, money as in when women out earn men in a relationship, they are much more likely to end up in divorce. This doesn't mean that they get to 100k as a pair and are happy because the woman makes 60 and the man makes 40, this means the woman see's the man as not enough, and moves on. When the man makes 60, and the woman 40, in the same situation, the rates of divorce are much lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Advice for the young men out there. I wish I had received thisCare to elaborate? | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/05/21 06:10 AM |
| 8 | The uncomfortable truth in the dating realm: women have to be, men have to become.This is true for men as well though Do you mean men who pursue these high positions have a lot of unattractive traits? Because if that's what you're saying, we're in 100% agreement. I have always been very careful to never become a workaholic, but money is the number one factor of successful relationships, and men earning less money than women in a relationship is something like 3x more likely to end in divorce, so..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 03:29 AM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?Friendly, generally agrees to go along with decisions even if they aren't always their preferences, in exchange for consideration when plans or decisions are being made. Most women want a guy who can be a leader figure, but leadership requires following. Consideration does not imply railroading, but it does tend to give a bit more towards the person with the responsibility of leading, in exchange for said responsibility. Normal BMI. concerned with longer term decision making, or knows to ask if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 01:40 AM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?You complain about relationships dying out so I assume you’re not in one. This is a dumb thing to assume. I complain about relationships dying out because I'm not looking forward to the shit show that is a crashing debt market when the population gets small enough that the debt overwhelms it. Nobody will be having a good time then. Are you in a relationship? I had a fine relationship during Covid that ended due to her relocating for a career move. Seeing as I'm trying to buy another investment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:49 AM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?And I have no idea how long or short your list is. Yes you do, I just told you. 5 things: Care about your appearance & health Be generally agreeable Be deliberately wanting and conscientious of a relationship Understand the difference between want and needs. Express your needs clearly, and educate where you want compromise. Go find a relationship dude. As usual, a woman attempts to attack a man's perceived sexual success in a debate. Nice strategy. I don't have any issues with getting women, y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Where are these men with the terrible personalities that women talk about ?It shouldn't be the case that women do the teaching? I agree. There should be significantly more male involvement in teaching and less single-mom households. If women today want men to be more relationship skilled, how do they propose they do it if they're not interested in assisting? I've never had a woman come into a relationship ready to go, it was always a given that we'd have to learn off each other every time; I never begrudged it. This notion of "Its not my responsibility to teach people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:06 AM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?This is a perfect TRP example. Women: My 25 things is reasonable. The problem is your list, which is 5 things, is too long. You should conform to us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Men will continue to suffer in silence as long as women prioritize confidence over emotional opennessI'm saying the evidence shows that women teach men this, and women are the majority of teachers in youth. Are there some men? Sure, there are always exceptions, but we're talking about the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Men will continue to suffer in silence as long as women prioritize confidence over emotional opennessRight, but you're not tracking that this is what women teach. Regardless of why they choose to teach it, this is what women teach boys. These are the values that women teach boys. Women are choosing that future men will be "unemotional", not the men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 11:21 PM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?Every woman with a list like Narnia’s is in a relationship. Just remember this readers, when 50% of women are single by 2030. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 11:17 PM |
| 25 | The uncomfortable truth in the dating realm: women have to be, men have to become.It's nice to read this type of reflection. I think more women need to realize that there are a whole lotta guys out there that just want a nice woman, the "ceo or bust" attitude really hurts everyone, as does the attitude it takes to get there. Most people aren't aware of exactly how many super unattractive traits these super high earners have, like the jadedness you referred to. Thanks for sharing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Where are these men with the terrible personalities that women talk about ?This is partly because relationship skills are not taught and many were raised wrong besides. The irony is that women do the teaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Men will continue to suffer in silence as long as women prioritize confidence over emotional opennessThere is nothing about a father being or not being around that requires a mother to teach her child any particular thing, and while one woman would be anecdotal, it certainly is not en masse. We can't start out a statement of "statistics show women do X" and then make our first statement "well it must still somehow be men's fault". Single or otherwise, these women choose what they teach, the responsibility is on them alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Men will continue to suffer in silence as long as women prioritize confidence over emotional opennessI don't understand your inference. Mothers teach boys to be less emotional because they're more involved in parenting/less likely to be absent than fathers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 10:46 PM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?I have no dislike for women with DMs. I have a dislike for people who are to high on their own product to realize that their '1st world problems' situation "I can't possibly choose from all these choices" are not equivalent to "I can't choose at all". It has nothing to do with what she wrote. It absolutely does. When men have average OLD profiles, and average girls swipe on them, they note that the don't fulfill enough of their incredibly picky requirements, and swiping stats show it. The OP h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Men will continue to suffer in silence as long as women prioritize confidence over emotional opennesshttps://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/fcqzwi/boys_dont_cry_study_suggests_mothers_not_fathers/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 10:02 PM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?Men here are personally offended by women expressing desires or wants. This just a bigoted statement. You seem to make a lot of those: autists unempathetic bigoted psychopaths I'm not upset at all. Stop trying to infer things, it's weird. Men aren't offended by women having desires, men are offended by women having unrealistic desires and then blaming men for not meeting them. "I can't meet any good guys" <checks phone> Has 250 DMs from guys. Meanwhile far too many average guys can't even ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 09:56 PM |
| 3 | Why mentoring for women risks propping up patriarchal structures instead of changing them | Helping women perform as well as men is still bad, because women's performance shouldn't be measured at all. Just assume they're performing well because they're women and give them the raise/promotion anyway.Would you mind elaborating a bit more on how you see what's happening? Right person for the job is what matters most imo. Is a bit vague, so I'm curious how you see the process that is occurring right now from a woman's perspective. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/21 08:44 PM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?You seem awkwardly confrontational for no reason here. Teaching an entire demographic that they should "never compromise, never settle" for a mating partner is a bad thing for everyone. Compromise is healthy, and compromise is a good strategy. I was pointing out that having 25 check boxes is an awful lot, and the OP herself didn't pick her partner based on those checkboxes, so it was somewhat disingenuous. She got a partner at 18 and grew compatibly together, but were she to take that list of re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 08:36 PM |
| -1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?No she's not. She married a highschool boyfriend. Mid 20s, 7 year relationship. Most of this list wouldn't have applied to a person at 18 years old. Anyone can get lucky and get a good fitting partner when they're young, luck is not a strategy. And 99% of people here would tell people like the referenced that getting married so young is a huge risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 08:05 PM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?Well, you should probably not start discussions with people with "well you're mentally deficient", because that's not a useful position to come from. Ignoring that. 2: criminal records is very vague, did the person get caught stealing food when they were 18? does that mean at 30 they're a bad person? Similar plans/inspirations; needing a partner to have been inspired by the same things you were is incredibly narrow; people grow up in their own unique circumstances and all this will do is elimina… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 07:47 PM |
| 3 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?Because RP men don’t care for women’s preferences and would rather women submit and stew in resentment and passivity their entire lives. This actually isn't what RP says at all. RP is a reflection of what is currently getting results. Be fit, act a certain way, if a woman provides negative behaviors than withdraw your time/attention. It doesn't at all tell a woman how she should act. The fact you think RP suggests women should tolerate men they aren't attracted to shows you're just an uninformed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 06:36 PM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?Similar values (no homophobe/misogynist/pro-lifer/racist/deeply religious etc, cares about environment) Clean criminal records Similar plans/inspirations At least some similar hobbies/interests, interest in at least some kind of art Likes pets and wants to have some of their own Has plans for the future and works on fulfilling them Financially stable - can support their own lifestyle We find each other sexually attractive and have similar kinks Values my pleasure Good at communication, can make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 06:25 PM |
| 6 | Men live their entire life based off how women perceive them. What's wrong with women who do the same?This is also why it is in theory extremely important for women who do oppose this modern rhetoric to actually stand up and help men by providing women's voice, because women's perspectives are currently more respected than men, regardless of the truth to their claims, and women are traditionally more socially inclined. The world is run by social media right now, and (left) women currently dominate that platform. The more conservative/moderate women need to get to work and realize they're startin… | /r/AntiFeminists | 27/05/21 07:56 AM |
| 15 | Men live their entire life based off how women perceive them. What's wrong with women who do the same?Currently western societies are only listening to one perspective, and are arguing that any voice that doesn't submit to the perspective is oppressive. In reality, this is actually exactly how propaganda oppresses people. Women come to the table with lets say 3 requirements that they get to pick. There is no reason that men can't come to the table and require their own 3 things, and yet we see that these are labeled sexist. It's empowering for the Ellen show to have male strippers, its misogyny … | /r/AntiFeminists | 27/05/21 07:31 AM |
| 3 | Women of purple pill debate, what things do you agree with from the red pill perspective and what things do you not agree with?white peoples have never been enslaved by other races https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery Under Muslim rule, the Arab slave trades that included Caucasian captives were often fueled by raids into European territories or were taken as children in the form of a blood tax from the families of citizens of conquered territories to serve the empire for a variety of functions.[1] In the mid-19th century, the term 'white slavery' was used to describe the Christian slaves that were sold into the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 06:59 AM |
| 8 | Women of purple pill debate, what things do you agree with from the red pill perspective and what things do you not agree with?http://ftp.iza.org/dp12185.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0UMikNGiqSEZxdyKZ71-wiPMegJqBW-s5aRnZUW4qbGvZ0T-NPWtKN03w It's so old that we even have to discuss this. Women marry same or more ; men marry Same or less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 06:54 AM |
| 1 | What it’s like dating at 27- how accurate is this tik tok/ the comments that follow it?She will have this delusional expectations despite the fact that only 25% of guys will make $110+ and more Just to be clear to anyone reading this, $100k is top 10% of ALL people in the USA. Gay men Lesbians Hetero-inclined Women Hetero-inclined Men So no, not 25%. Much lower than 10%, in fact, when you refer to JUST hetero-inclined men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Balancing Female Choice and Social ProsperityYes. Look at Japan - plenty of sexless men, just droning in peace jacking off to cartoon porn. Japan is dying. Average age in japan is 48.4 years old and continues to climb. If feminism leads to Japan, than feminism leads to population collapse, and the only people left breeding will be the conservatives. Assuming socio-economic classes won't change during demographic and population collapse is pretty crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:53 PM |
| 14 | What does a woman have to work on in order to attract a man?I would wife the shit out of this, not just for your ability to understand what is wanted by the people you want, but your ability to recognize that compatibility is not oppression, but cooperation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Balancing Female Choice and Social ProsperityYes, but you also don't see those communities shunning selective members. It's very common for poly species (including 50% humans) to have tribal young raising, but it's also very common for everyone to be fucking everyone, the Bonobo model. There are also some interesting examples of mutual exclusion, like wolves, where it is very often that only the breeding pair have kids at all, and the others, male AND female are precluded from breeding, unless a male or female is being elevated to replace … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Balancing Female Choice and Social Prosperitywhen in reality the female of just about every animal species on earth selects some males and rejects others. They also have to provide for their young, there is no gov't handout to assist with the animals that make bad choices. If you're suggesting that the market de-regulate entirely, we'd see a drastic anti-hookup culture come back, as 22 year old women wouldn't be so empowered to raise 2 kids by herself. No animal species in the wild taxes it's non-parental male figures to subsidize it's mot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 07:16 PM |
| 13 | For the men on here: If a woman doesn't have biological kids with a man, is she mostly only good for her looks and likely to be discarded after the wall?I think the biggest thing a childless woman can really bring to the table is her commitment to make life the best it can be, and this has to be an active commitment, not a passive one. Simply having a pile of money between two people doesn't make people happy, they need to be complimentary. I think the notion of "trading in for a younger model" happens when the relationship is functionally already broken. If you're living a good life, and you're taking care of your man in a way that compliments … | /r/RedPillWomen | 20/05/21 06:22 PM |
| 3 | If you strongly prefer virgin, or very low N count women, you're obligated to wait for sex on dates.If you strongly prefer virgin, or very low N count women, you're obligated to wait for sex on dates. This seems very reasonable. I'd have no issues with this if she was demonstrating a serious attitude towards the other facets of the relationship. If she was flaky/non-committal in her attitude, I'd just walk. I respect people that can live in the candy aisle and not take the free samples that are everywhere. Also, what do you offer to her? You have to understand that these women are likely eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:40 PM |
| 1 | If anti-feminist.... why feminist hot? 🤔What in the hell is wrong with her eyebrows. | /r/AntiFeminists | 20/05/21 06:22 AM |
| 0 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcI'm 6'1" and I lift. I'm smart enough not to escalate shit with people that are bigger than me, or have some other advantage on me. The difference in gender violence is that society doesn't tell men "its ok, men won't hit you, women won't hit you, you're a special sunshine". Men know that when you start a fight, someone is gonna get hurt. That's why men bark far more than they bite. Rap music provides plenty of great examples of this. Women were and are taught that men aren't allowed to hit them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:58 AM |
| 1 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcYou're now describing this: Groupthink and Mass Hysteria It's believed that groupthink increases as group cohesiveness increases, which may help explain the psychological phenomenon of mass hysteria.4 Also known as epidemic hysteria, mass psychogenic illness, and mass sociogenic illness, mass hysteria is a "a constellation of symptoms suggestive of organic illness, but without an identifiable cause, that occurs between two or more people who share beliefs related to those symptoms," according… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:33 AM |
| 1 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcIt will never be men's fault that they're stronger than women. Women demanded to be put on the same measurement stick as men. Women literally threw away the right to be believed more than men in exchange for some specialized role placement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:30 AM |
| 9 | Circumcised men of Reddit, how do you feel about it?In a world constantly measures men by their penis size, circumcized men lose .5-.75 inches from their penis length. | /r/MensRights | 20/05/21 04:13 AM |
| 2 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcAnd studying victims and perpetrators is an excellent way to teach future generations how to safegaurd themselves better. We aren't going to take away early release from model prisoners because there is a .0000005% chance they might be super predators. Innocent until proven guilty, even in prison. No where, not once, have I or anyone else advocated for failing to punish the guilty. Repeating it over and over as if we had is frankly disingenuous at best. What I have said, over and over, is that e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 04:10 AM |
| 1 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcin a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. Actually, I referred to your position when I said "a bigoted victim shield." Nice try though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 04:04 AM |
| 1 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcWomen-are-wonderful effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect#:~:text=This%20bias%20reflects%20an%20emotional,a%20far%20more%20pronounced%20bias This is what you're referring to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 03:53 AM |
| 1 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcSo to the 15-year-old Gacy raped, you'd say "your fault, should have known better"? Absolutely. Who in the hell advises a 15 year old to go to a strange man's house without making sure his parents are aware of his location. Both parents and child were responsible for this fuckup. Was Gacy responsible for his actions? Absolutely. But you're NEVER going to legislate out that behavior, so instead you teach people responsibility and caution. You probably work in a traditional or conservative indus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 03:43 AM |
| 3 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcI've not ignored or lied about anything, and I've provided the sources, which are government run organizations & statistics. Go pout elsewhere with your need for a bigoted victim shield. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 03:05 AM |
| 5 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcJust say you hate women I don't hate women. I rather enjoy the quality ones nicely. That doesn't mean I need to lie about facts. approximately 4 in 5 victims of intimate partner violence were female And the most violent sexual demographic of relationships that can be measured are the ones that only include women. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/cdc_nisvs_victimization_final-a.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 02:55 AM |
| 4 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcInstead they're at risk of men assaulting them or men using their power to threaten/coerce. They're at risk of sexual harassment, retribution for turning down their boss or coworker, violence, stalking. It has already been shown that women in positions of power are equally likely to use that power inappropriately over their male subordinates. This is not a gender issue, it is a power issue. But yeah, it must be rough that you could get fired for being lewd or for harassing someone. If I'm chat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 02:32 AM |
| 5 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcI never said, nor do the facts reflect, that women are as capable of physical violence against men as men are against women. If you want men to be more responsible due to their biological differences, than it is fair to demand that women be more responsible with their fertility choices because of their biological differences, and both are sexist statements. No more aborting inconvenient children, you knew the risks, and you're more responsible. No more child support or low income welfare, you to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 01:04 AM |
| 3 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcPunishing and calling out dangerous and bad male behavior Excuse you. Punishing and calling out dangerous and bad behavior FTFY. Please keep your bigotry to yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:58 AM |
| 10 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcYeah I honestly find this hilarious, because women should be treating men that way at work given the actual risks. Not at all. Women are not in danger of losing their career over private jokes. The fact that you think its hilarious is proof enough that you're ok with Woman-on-Man abuse, but not Man-on-Woman. Congrats on bigotry, I guess. I don't believe this at all. No one cares what you believe. It's easy enough to verify. Sure, but no one is perfectly vigilant at every second of every day.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:57 AM |
| 6 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcIf you're implying some people will be the victim of things regardless of making reasonable efforts, I agree with you. That doesn't mean the world needs more laws to restrict freedom just because 1 person got their skull smashed in. I certainly don't want a law requiring everyone to wear helmets at all times. I'd rather be bashed in the head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:24 AM |
| 5 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etchttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Results. Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:19 AM |
| 2 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed uphttps://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/cdc_nisvs_victimization_final-a.pdf There you go. A lot more than one expert showing that women are more violent than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:13 AM |
| 3 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcSo did you avoid ever being alone with your teachers or coaches or religious leaders? No locker room time? I made it a point to always be aware of threats, yes. I didn't accept food that seemed out of place, or behaviors that seemed abnormally friendly. If you notice, men collectively are now avoiding women in workplaces because they've assigned themselves the "threat" category. People get advice all the time on how to not be a victim. And that's great, except someone is inevitably going to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:08 AM |
| -1 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcThat's great that this works for you, I genuinely mean it. But what about other people? What about people who are poor and are in shady situations at home/at work simply because they were born into a poor family? Poor people of both genders are a super common group of people to be abused for this reason. Not everyone is created equally. If people are too stupid to make it, oh well. We don't lower the hoop so that people born without legs can compete in the NBA. The assumption that life can be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 11:57 PM |
| 2 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcI'm going to reply to this, but you need to use the quote block or bolding or something. Click the 3 little dots on the bottom of the reply window and click the left quotations to start a quote block. You can then cut/paste previous replies in a way that clearly separates what you're quoting and makes it easy to read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 11:21 PM |
| 2 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upA leading expert in abuse says this is commonly the case A. Singular. I can find a singular expert that the world is flat. The CDC published many violence statistics showing that women are the more violent gender in relationships. Based on what? Based on the CDC. No. We have different names for these crimes and different sentencing guidelines for these crimes. We have different names for those crimes because we have gynocentric laws. I punch you, you punch me. Same crime. Not my problem that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 11:15 PM |
| 1 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upNot at all, I was asking for clarification that you are ok with discrimination on the basis that people should be able to act how they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 11:11 PM |
| 11 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcLet's start by acknowledging that women are very more often abusers FTFY. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:37 PM |
| 2 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upI literally said No, you literally said that when men hit women and women hit back, that those men claim it's mutual. You've zero proof to make such a bigoted statement. It is as true as me saying "when women hit men, and men hit back, that those women claim it's mutual". Except statistics actually back me. Women in relationships have a higher likelihood of violence towards men in relationships, than men in those relationships do towards those women. This is a fact. I mean they quite literally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:27 PM |
| 0 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcI guess my upvotes are accidents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:17 PM |
| 16 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcNope, I think they're responsible for making choices that increased the odds of being victimized. I'm a 6' 1" tall white athletic man that played sports in school. I make choices not to go places based on the increase in chance that there could be violence or theft towards my persons and property. This narrative that people somehow shouldn't be responsible for the choices they make that make them more likely to be victims is completely asinine, and is teaching people the opposite of responsibili… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:15 PM |
| 40 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcIt's not alarming when someone 30+ socializes with teens/adults under 25 Nope, old enough to go to war, to vote, etc, old enough to make your own decisions. People can always say no to sex they don't want to have, being "manipulated" into sex isn't a thing People are free to make choices. "I was manipulated" aka "I should not be held responsible for my choices." No thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:01 PM |
| 2 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upBecause when men beat women up, women protect themselves and men claim it was mutual abuse. Nope. Sorry, you're a bigot. Women aren't defenseless damsels. Take responsibility. Don't really have to protect yourself against a woman. So why do lesbian relationships suffer higher rates of domestic violence than hetero sexual relationships OR gay men's relationships? If a woman slaps a man, that's domestic violence. It isn't as likely to cause broken bones. If a man slaps a woman, that's domestic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 09:55 PM |
| 2 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upI never thought I was less than a woman just because I like science and nerdy stuff, but that would be different if I grew up in a religious zealot community. This is because you maintain a bigoted view. Religious communities value their women and their role very much. You're incorrectly associating that because a woman is not allowed to do something, that she is not seen as equally valuable. It is feminism that degrades the value of the stay at home woman, not religion, and many more SAHM types… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 09:33 PM |
| 1 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upSo you believe that workplace employers should be allowed to hire and fire based on their personal tribal preferences? (To include gender, race, disability, etc). Because if you want to limit what people can choose under the guise of "discrimination", you're not really for everyone acting how they want, you're really for people acting how you want, and right back down into the "I'm a better bigot than you" rabbit hole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 09:26 PM |
| 1 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upThere are also gay men and lesbian women. Nature tries everything during evolution. That doesn't make everything successful. Masculine men and Feminine women have been the most successful pairings since anyone in any recorded history can find. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 09:18 PM |
| 1 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed upBut why using these two terms in biology? Because they were commonly observed behaviors by the people coining the language. They also fairly accurately reflect the world at large. Consider that when the world was 500 million people instead of 7 billion, even if the outliers were statistically equal, they were still far less observed in day to day activity. Of course, it's entirely likely that biology subjugated both men AND women into their roles and traits via evolution. Aggressive women didn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 09:10 PM |
| 2 | The concept of masculinity and femininity are the reason why men's and women's life are messed up70% of one way domestic violence in relationships is female perpetrated. Seems like if men behaved more like women, there would be more violence, not less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 09:01 PM |
| 3 | this is why sweden is the happiest placeSweden is also undergoing population decline and is fighting against the tide of Swedish men that would rather import a wife than marry locally. https://phys.org/news/2010-10-marriage-migration-sweden.html In a new ‘migration by marriage’ study, experts at the University of St Andrews found that over a fifteen year period there has been a 44% increase in young women moving to Sweden from mainly poorer nations to marry. There will always be "poorer nations", and if people expect conservative … | /r/AntiFeminists | 19/05/21 08:07 PM |
| 8 | The biggest reason people have dating issues is because they don't know these 2 major things: What they want, What they're worth.definitely be analyzed more deeply I will always agree with researching things, even if they're previously thought to be understood. While no one (that I'm aware) has done studies, I can correlatively look at various statistics and show that in direct correlation with the rise of Third wave feminism, the overall happiness of women has been declining. This suggests that the changes being made, regardless of anyone's intellectual "morals", are actually in opposition to women's preferences, assumin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 02:09 AM |
| 3 | 15 y/o female here :) Just a few questions about the nature of MGTOWWhat's your opinion on the circle jerk-y nature of some of the posts on this sub? I think they resemble the circlejerk nature of any forum of discussion where victims congregate. You wouldn't walk into a burn unit and talk about all the great things fire has done for mankind. No one gets to MGTOW by being treated fairly & like a human being. How easy do you think it is to go from "watch out for some of the more cutthroat, promiscuious women out here!" To "all women are bad... and divorce and a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/05/21 11:07 PM |
| 13 | The biggest reason people have dating issues is because they don't know these 2 major things: What they want, What they're worth.Don't make overly generalized derogatory statements towards one gender that aren't factually based. Don't make derogatory statements towards gender based masturbatory sexual activities. If slut-shaming women is wrong, virgin-shaming men is the same wrong. Don't shame people for their kinks. "Don't adjust the conversation"; aka don't state something which refutes your derogatory claim? Lol. Nice try. Not required to allow you the unchallenged space to make bigoted statements. Nobody victim blamed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 07:43 PM |
| 16 | The biggest reason people have dating issues is because they don't know these 2 major things: What they want, What they're worth.All they have is ED and a choking fetish. Better to stay single then become dead at the hands of these losers. A very large percentage of women fetishize being choked. I suppose they're losers as well? You should probably get off your kink-shaming soap box and have adult conversations with partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Been thinking lately and have come to a conclusion that generally speaking, a man wants his woman to be his home, while a woman wants her man to be an exotic vacation. Do you agree with this?Men who want a “mommy wife” are more prevalent than you think. But it is women who have these expectations and select these men. If you select men that don't have the traits that you end up finding desirable, than you need to revise how you're selecting. This was the whole point of arranged marriages and phrases like "comes from a good family", because while no selection method is perfect, it was a "non-tingles" way to negotiate for what was expected and being provided by everyone. When you reve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 06:48 PM |
| 2 | Been thinking lately and have come to a conclusion that generally speaking, a man wants his woman to be his home, while a woman wants her man to be an exotic vacation. Do you agree with this?That isn't at all what PPD claims. Men cheat for very different reasons than women, but people aren't claiming that men don't cheat, though a couple recent articles I've seen (admitting I've not looked at the studies behind them) suggest that women have now over-taken men in cheating, as it is "empowered" now, and is often blamed on the men in the relationship for "not being enough". When men were the dominant cheating partner it was socially never acceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Been thinking lately and have come to a conclusion that generally speaking, a man wants his woman to be his home, while a woman wants her man to be an exotic vacation. Do you agree with this?This is not true at all, friendzoned guys are strung along for comfort and convenience all the time, the very name implies that they're somewhere they don't want to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 06:21 PM |
| 2 | Been thinking lately and have come to a conclusion that generally speaking, a man wants his woman to be his home, while a woman wants her man to be an exotic vacation. Do you agree with this?The irony of complaining that the people you chose are at fault for being picked. (or not picked) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 06:08 PM |
| 4 | Been thinking lately and have come to a conclusion that generally speaking, a man wants his woman to be his home, while a woman wants her man to be an exotic vacation. Do you agree with this?This is a really lazy way of shirking responsibility for a choice. Both partners should be vetting each other during the process, but it's women who choose their partners in this species. When men picked for women (as in parents arranging marriages), the parents looked at the qualifications of a potential suitor and made them accomplish enough to be worth a marriage. When women took control of that process, it also became their responsibility to manage the vetting for qualifications. Millennial … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 06:03 PM |
| 3 | Steve Moxon - "Partner Violence is Usual Female Behaviour but Aberrational for Males"I thought this lecture was fantastic and more people need to see it. I hope you'll consider cross-posting it (I don't want to steal your credit) to some of the other forums, like PPD. This definitely represents the data I've seen as well. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/21 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Why are most college graduates women?https://nursejournal.org/resources/financial-aid/nursing-scholarships- Haha, you tried to link to nursing scholarships for men. Instead you linked to: Error 404 - Page Not Found Oh no! The page you're looking for does not exist. Try one of these helpful links: Nuff said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 11:41 PM |
| 3 | Why are most college graduates women?Yes there are. The nursing profession is actively trying to recruit men. There are nursing scholarships for men. MRA lie #1. No, there aren't. I said men only. Are there drives to hire male nurses? Sure. There are not drives to hire MALE ONLY nurses. Female nurses are not having any difficulty getting hired. This is not true in the "more women in stem fields" that are hiring women ONLY. Know tons of male teachers who’ve never had a problem. MRA lie #2. Your anecdotes are garbage evidence. Wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.And don't have children when the person you're with hasn't demonstrated that they're co-parent material, and you aren't ready to make a commitment to the kids you're thinking of having. Well over 50% of millennials are having children outside of marriage. One upon a time, you married and dealt with it when you got accidental pregnancies. If pregnancies are no longer a "must have children" moment, than there is no excuse to be having them before you have a suitable partner, and people need to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Is it worth staying in this relationship?he gained about 20 pounds this year and while I like a huskier build, he’s mainly fat and has lost muscle mass. This is not acceptable unless he has a medical issue preventing him from working out, as it doesn't sound like there are life issues preventing him (like a 80hr / week job towards your futures). Maintaining physical attraction standards is necessary in relationships. Generally, the best way to approach this is directly, but supportively. After he is aware, it is on him to demonstrate t… | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/05/21 07:12 PM |
| 0 | Why are most college graduates women?You’re going to sit here and claim men aren’t pushed to succeed regardless of merit? If you're implying that men participate in nepotism, that's fair. So do women. But men don't have giant public campaigns of nepotism based on gender. There aren't moves to hire "only men" in positions that women dominantly occupy, and there isn't public and blatant sex based hiring campaigns. There are no "hire only men" drives in nursing, and when men apply to be teachers, especially of young children, they are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 06:38 PM |
| 7 | Are men upset that having money is considered an attractive feature?That means he’s super low value Nice try moving the goal posts, you stated: Yes, the rich nerd is going to be more attractive....with older and/or more relationship minded women. You said nothing about nerdy well off women, and that's because it wasn't true, and we both know it. You stated "rich nerd" as your metric of value, and then said it was the rich nerds fault he was low value, even thought it was YOU who stated that the wealth of the nerd is what gave him his value. He can't be both hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 05:10 PM |
| 4 | Are men upset that having money is considered an attractive feature?the rich nerd is going to be more attractive than the broke supermodel-esque hotties with older and/or more relationship minded women. He's not more attractive until she already has 2 kids from the broke supermodel-esque hottie and needs someone to pay for the kids, but doesn't reproduce with the nerd. Then, if she gets a year or two down the road, she can divorce him and take half his assets and income in the name of "fairness". In the land of "equality", pre-nups should be de facto, and each… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 04:37 PM |
| 3 | Why are most college graduates women?Women are pushed by society to succeed regardless of merit, which isn't to say that there aren't women with merit, but rather that they should succeed regardless of merit. "Body positivity" is exclusively female. "The future is female" imagine if this said male. Grading identical papers except for gender, women receive 12% higher grades in school. Schools (such as MIT) where male & female applicants are at a 2-to-1 male-to-female ratio artificially accept more women per applicant than men in ord… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 01:50 AM |
| 7 | Why are most college graduates women?And boys were outperforming girls until recently. No they haven't been. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/lkatz/files/gkk_jep.20.4.133.pdf By 1980, the college gender gap in enrollments had evaporated. But rather than stopping at equality in 1980, women’s greater rate of increase continued. In 2003, there were 1.35 females for every male who graduated from a four-year college and 1.30 females for every male undergraduate (U.S. Department of Education, 2005, Tables 176, 247). In all three sur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Redpill ConspiracyEqual rights and lefts, Camille Paglia feminism. Any reason you avoid the term egalitarian? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Redpill ConspiracyRP liberal feminist Would you be interested in defining that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 11:10 PM |
| 4 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.Yes, one gender - so long as they are young and pretty for fucking and procreating So you're saying girls in school receive one sided gender based assistance because they're pretty and we should be fucking them? Considering 80% of teachers are women, this seems unlikely. Gender bias shows a 12% increase in grading for the same academic quality assignments when your gender is female. are told lots of frivolous bullshit while also getting attacked and killed by the other gender whose entire soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.A noncustodial parent is a parent who does not have physical custody of his or her minor child as the result of a court order. When the child only lives with one parent, in a sole custody arrangement, then the parent with which the child lives is the custodial parent while the other parent is the non-custodial parent. The non-custodial parent may have contact or visitation rights. In a shared parenting arrangement, where the child lives an equal or approximately equal amount of time with the mot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 08:31 PM |
| 5 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.Who said no services? We just shouldn't be paying for people to have children. We all use roads, we all use healthcare, paramedics, law enforcement, fire departments, etc. But there is no reason to pay people to have children, especially when it creates a situation where the children are turning out worse as a result of those economic policies when your payments functionally replace a parent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:46 PM |
| 3 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/P60-255.pdf One of every six custodial parents (17.5 percent) were fathers. 83% of single mothers are custodial parents. C'mon, this is easy to find. Let's not be lazy to obfuscate easily discerned questions. Google is free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.Except we know that stats clearly show that mothers get significantly more custody than men do, and of the data on children raised by single fathers, the children show significantly fewer issues in life. https://equalitycanada.com/research-fatherlessness/ "American research has shown growing up without a father is tied to many negative psychological, social and physical issues. Children from fatherless families are 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 4 times more likely to be rais… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:30 PM |
| 7 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.but no one has yet proposed a convincing alternative to them Honestly, the solution is simple, and equitable. None. For anyone. Make choice relevant again. You make choices, you pay for choices. You want to have kids (man or woman), make sure you pick qualified partners that will stick around. Giving one gender the power to pick, but not requiring them to also accept the responsibility of their choice is exactly how we got here. You cannot divorce power from responsibility. edit: and in-before-t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.Maybe men should be better? Sorry, only one gender spends it's entire life being told that they're wonderful and perfect just the way they are, no matter how entitled and miserable they are to be around. Go ahead, search "bodypositivity" on instragram, see how many men you find compared to women. Troll harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:07 PM |
| 6 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.Making them is also very easy, and free Free when you can convince the state to pay for your choices edit: remove choice-welfare and mandatory child support and watch those decisions change drastically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:03 PM |
| 9 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.Lots of women are having babies out of wedlock, like 40% of births overall. It's actually much higher than this for millennial women, between ~51-65% depending on your source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Married mothers spend more time on housework and children and less time on leisure and sleep than other mothers.Lol, and this study doesn't even pretend to be unbiased by measuring fathers side by side. Nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Why mental health is so important: "The Boy Crisis" | Philip Zimbardo | TEDxRawaRiverSalonOh, I definitely think the criticism is warranted, but I'm loathe to throw away everything just because it makes us uncomfortable with the truth. In reality, it would have been very difficult to get those guards to naturally behave the way he expected because he needed time and structure, prison guards rarely walk in cruel on day one. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/05/21 04:51 PM |
| 1 | The sex ratio between young (18-40) men and women are increasing, per census 2020You do interact with those people, because it's not like RP is some "you're all in or all out" club. You have male coworkers and friends who share some of those views, and some of whom likely feel like they can't speak out about things that bother them because 'cancel culture' says if you don't spout the feminism doctrine, you don't deserve a job. Heck, RP teaches not to share that you're RP because people will persecute you for it, so it's really not even likely you'd know. You'd ask a question… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 05:11 AM |
| 3 | The sex ratio between young (18-40) men and women are increasing, per census 2020You don't think understanding why people act in certain ways is relevant to you? I listen and watch women's perspectives on issues all the time. I don't have to agree, but it's certainly relevant for me to have access to that. I've also been able to take some parts (recently, IRL) and said, "hey, I could be wrong on that, let me really think about why I think that", and IRL changed my course of action. You can't do that if you sit in echo chambers all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 04:52 AM |
| 2 | Feminizing men in the US is only going to hurt the men that get feminized and the women that do it.dumbfuck Lol, look at the little temper tantrum ad hominem here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Feminizing men in the US is only going to hurt the men that get feminized and the women that do it.And I provided information from an organization that has been responsible for training boys and men for the last 250 years. https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-educationalpsychology/chapter/gender-differences-in-the-classroom/ Physically, boys tend to be more active than girls, and by the same token more restless if they have to sit for long periods. They are also more prone than girls to rely on physical aggression if they are frustrated (Espelage & Swearer, 2004). Both tendencies are incons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 01:19 AM |
| 2 | Feminizing men in the US is only going to hurt the men that get feminized and the women that do it.No, you have to decide if you like the methodology and the raw results, lets be real here. There is plenty of other research out there, but this isn't a date, so stop expecting a man to do the work for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 01:08 AM |
| 3 | Feminizing men in the US is only going to hurt the men that get feminized and the women that do it.https://armyandnavyacademy.org/blog/brain-science-and-the-difference-between-boys-and-girls/ Boys and girls learn differently for a very simple biological reason – their brains are built differently. Given, their differences, boys and girls perform better provided different stimuli. Our current education system denies this fact and therefore denies the everyday results of these biological differences. Here’s a brief list of these biological differences and some of the physiological ramifications… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 01:02 AM |
| 4 | Feminizing men in the US is only going to hurt the men that get feminized and the women that do it.What does that have to do with fundamental differences, that's literally society doing that do them Do you know what the symptoms of ADHD are? Behavioral: aggression, excitability, fidgeting, hyperactivity, impulsivity, irritability, lack of restraint, or persistent repetition of words or actions Cognitive: absent-mindedness, difficulty focusing, forgetfulness, problem paying attention, or short attention span Mood: anger, anxiety, boredom, excitement, or mood swings These are the behaviors … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 12:53 AM |
| 5 | Feminizing men in the US is only going to hurt the men that get feminized and the women that do it.https://sciencenorway.no/adhd-forskningno-gender/girls-are-given-less-adhd-medication/1376516#:~:text=Boys%20are%20much%20more%20frequently,underdiagnose%20the%20disorder%20among%20girls.&text=This%20has%20been%20made%20evident,the%20Norwegian%20Medical%20Association%27s%20journal. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32858/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414/ https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=149916 https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/data.html That enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 11:43 PM |
| 3 | Women unfairly hired to meet Queensland police gender targets, corruption watchdog findsYou organize, or you look up organizations that are already in place local to you and you contribute. Change will require pain, no doubt. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/21 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Double standards on display. The women who mock middle aged men seeking younger women, don't appear to want to date middle aged men. They want fitter men. 'Fitter' being a consequence of...: YOUTH (based on their meme's premise that all middle aged men are likely to suffer a stroke).Can I ask how you arrived at your stance? As someone whose stance shifted a lot the more I researched, I'm curious about other's journeys. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/21 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Why mental health is so important: "The Boy Crisis" | Philip Zimbardo | TEDxRawaRiverSalonTo be fair, it's taught not to do because it's cruel, not because you can't learn valuable information from it. It is foolish to disregard the information garnered just because of how it was garnered. Harry Harlow's work (pit of despair) was often viewed the same, but the information is very valuable nonetheless. Additionally, The Nazi's accelerated an immense amount of science with less than socially acceptable methods as well, but the information was pretty useful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/05/21 10:28 PM |
| 2 | The sex ratio between young (18-40) men and women are increasing, per census 2020Why should I listen to people who dehumanize me? Because it's extremely important to understand the dehumanization process, so you can understand when you're guilty of it as well. A huge element of German society after WWII was the acknowledgement that they needed to maintain self awareness that becoming a dehumanizer is a process that can happen to anyone, including yourself. You don't listen to them to change, you listen to them to be challenged and develop empathy, because you want them to de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 09:58 PM |
| 4 | The sex ratio between young (18-40) men and women are increasing, per census 2020Because even if you don't agree, it's worth having a fundamental understanding of why someone says something. For instance, men will complain about the OLD dating market. Women will say "its because you're an incel, not attractive, etc etc"; essentially victim blaming, which they hate to be on the receiving end of, but which absolves them of the responsibility of being intellectually honest. For instance, in our above example, you could instead take a look at: Girl Tries To Be A Guy On Tinder - … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Radical RP men are vehemently ill-mannered toward women over 25.That’s why there’s no point in interacting with these types really. Then why are you on an RP/BP debate forum? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 09:17 PM |
| -1 | Radical RP men are vehemently ill-mannered toward women over 25.RP is about adapting to a marketplace that is bad for men. Marriage is a wreck for men right now, they are at significant disadvantage to women, and women have lowered the qualifications of the "fuck" market to being physically fit with some social game. RP is teaching me to learn game and get in shape and avoid marriage. Married-RP teaches men that they have to continue hold frame & game their wives or they'll end up getting a divorce. If you want to encourage men to pursue longer term relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 09:10 PM |
| 1 | The sex ratio between young (18-40) men and women are increasing, per census 2020Ah yes, the old "I don't like what you're saying, so you're not important" argument, that has always gone well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 07:54 PM |
| 5 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?to bore someone: to make someone feel impatient or dissatisfied, especially by talking to them about things that are not very interesting https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/bore_1 You're saying those things don't make women feel more dissatisfied? Men feel less bored than women, because they are less dissatisfied, so they initiate divorce less often. Therefore: Women get bored of relationships faster. edit: to be clear, the OPs question is essentially, do women get diss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/21 12:02 AM |
| 4 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?This means nothing. Two of my female friends divorced, one he was an abusive drunk, the other he cheated on her, but because they filed they are the bad guy? Use your head please. I didn't say it was a good or bad thing, you did. I said it was a gendered thing, which it is. Stats show men are less likely to end a marriage, there really isn't anything to argue about that, and the anecdotal "I know a guy" doesn't change the stats. I also didn't imply that people should stay with abusive partners, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 11:37 PM |
| 4 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?I see you like to follow people around and say "no u" a lot. 5/7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 11:24 PM |
| 3 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?That's not at all what that says. If: Men leave a non-marital relationship because of X reason Women leave a non-marital relationship because of boredom And women are leaving marriages because of boredom, The the OP's question: Do women get bored of relationships faster than men? Is a yes. Men might leave non-marital relationships for reasons including boredom, but over all women leave more relationships because of boredom, and more intense (level of commitment) relationships because of boredom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 11:04 PM |
| 5 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?Non-marital stats show that the genders initiate breakups about evenly, but don't differentiate in the reasons that women break up with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?But they're also much more likely to initiate divorce, which suggests that speaking up isn't actually decreasing the odds of getting divorced. Logic would actually suggest that the party who speaks up less should be initiating divorce more, because their needs (that they aren't bringing up) aren't being addressed. Instead you see the opposite, which suggests that men are much more tolerant of not getting their way(s) than women are, which is reflected in the current stats. The below data also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 10:22 PM |
| 3 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?Women are more likely to cheat because they are bored (which would be another way to say tempted by sex). We can say this because we can see that while both sexes cheat as often as each other, women divorce significantly more often than men, and the #1 reason women file for divorce is lack of satisfaction regarding the quantity and/or quality of attention they receive. Whereas men who cheat aren't divorcing, and studies show that men who are perfectly happy in their relationships will cheat as w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 10:04 PM |
| 6 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?others divorce..... but this isn't a gender thing. Women initiate 70-80% of divorce cases. That's kinda a gender thing. others cheat Both genders cheat, though studies show that men who cheat are not doing so to leave a relationship, and are more often perfectly happy in their primary relationship. Again, making it important to identify how the genders treat these events differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 09:44 PM |
| 6 | Do women get bored of relationships faster than men?The old stereotype that you usually see is a man leaving his wife for a much younger woman. Women initiate 70-80% of divorce cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/21 09:33 PM |
| 6 | Why I Am Not a FeministThis was an excellent read and describes my issues with the modern day "woke" movements in general. The argument "X demographic had it bad 50 years ago, so Y demographic should have it bad tomorrow" is nothing more than a power struggle, and has nothing to do with equality. It's a struggle for who sits on the throne, not a struggle to share it. I believe the direction that a lot of "woke-isms" are heading, and regarding genders I think this will create a violent power struggle when enough men as… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/21 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Are relationships business transactions?Seriously? What about having a large chest, Lots of guys prefer big tits. Doesn't stop them from engaging with small tits. a big butt, Same thing. showing no signs of aging, You mean young? Young enough to have kids? Women could stop playing stupid games and finding men before their clock runs down. having a model-type face, Same as the first two. Men are perfectly happy with an average face. being tan Men don't give a shit about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:20 AM |
| 4 | Are relationships business transactions?Edit: it’s also really cute that you think $100k is a high income. 100k is top 1% worldwide, and top 10% in the US. By most reasonable metrics, that would constitute "high", but congrats on further shaming average earners I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 09:52 AM |
| 7 | Are relationships business transactions?without your aggressive demeanour This is the internet, and a debate forum at that. Women get treated equally here. This isn't remotely aggressive, I just don't have to pander to your ego or your lack of facts and piles of anecdotes. If you assume this is how I'd date IRL, I really can't help you; I'm accused of being a smooth talker more than anything else, but there is no reason to pander on the internet. Lots of working class men Only 48% of people are getting married. 40% of First marriage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 09:43 AM |
| 4 | Are relationships business transactions?Aww, patronizing is cute. Lets see, 6 figure career, check, house on a golf course, check, private gym, check, two cars and a truck, check. Oh, you assumed because I wasn't afraid to call bullshit what it is, that my life must be a lonely mess. I thought we covered this, men don't care about your money. Plenty of average men who don't have those things still deserve not to put up with the shit that women have turned the dating market into with this nonsense "Women are so great, all men suck" att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 09:15 AM |
| 5 | Are relationships business transactions?Women "reap the rewards" because evolution proved it was more successful for men to be hunters and women to be breeders. women with their own money are still on top. Not really. Single Women 40-55 making 100k or more are the LEAST happy, and the fastest growing suicide demographic. Ask all the high earning women why they stay with cheating men. Take a look at the top 10 richest women; All inherited or garnered from divorce. This all started because I can pick and choose who I will have relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 09:03 AM |
| 6 | Are relationships business transactions?Do you really have the inability to see that it’s men who built the economy Actually, it's men who build the world. You're alive in a time of space ships and smart phones because men put you there. Do you know what the matriarchies of the world are doing? Nothing. They live in small villages and are fucking irrelevant, waiting to be wiped out by any bored patriarchy. Mosuo - Wikipedia Bribri people - Wikipedia Umoja, Kenya - Wikipedia Men occupy physically dangerous jobs because its literally pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 08:37 AM |
| 7 | Are relationships business transactions?Do you really have the inability to recognize that an anecdotal story is irrelevant? If you brush off real facts for "I didn't do it, so it must not be like that in the whole world", than why are you even in a debate forum? Just go talk to a mirror and agree with yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 08:23 AM |
| 10 | Are relationships business transactions?No, they don't. Not here, and not worldwide. Men account for 92% of Workplace deaths. Women are fighting to get into high paying office jobs, not hard working stressful jobs. You get stressed working in an office? Imagine if your life was a: Vehicle technicians, mechanics and electricians 99% male Carpenters and joiners 99% male Welding trades 99% male Electricians and electrical fitters 98% male Metal working production and maintenance fitters 98% male Plumbers and heating and ventilating engin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 08:19 AM |
| 7 | Are relationships business transactions?in long term relationships women often end up managing the finances I thought they wanted equality? Women can't handle the jobs men have done traditionally? which is an extremely stressful job Men do lots of stressful jobs. The woman then becomes the “dragon lady” who is always “nagging” So you're justifying bad behavior because responsibility is stressful? If women want better relationship outcomes they ought to start saying "hey average joe, I'm average jane, you look pretty average just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 08:02 AM |
| 12 | Are relationships business transactions?Money is most important to people who don’t have enough of it Funny you say that, since men don't care about women's money, but women care about men's money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 07:47 AM |
| 15 | Are relationships business transactions?I’m ok for a man to make less than me But your gender isn't ok with it, and the facts show this. If you don't think that this should be a big deal, you should be advocating your fellow women that men with average salaries are fine too. so above 5’9 is ok 5'9" is the average height of a man in the united states. Most women should be fine with an average height man, especially if they don't want to be counter-judged for being shallow assholes. Men cannot change their height. How about we start s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 07:30 AM |
| -3 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?I think your question misses the mark because women aren't looking for casual sex as often as men, because your question surmises that men & women are equal, but they are not, they are very different in their ways of thinking, their biology, their evolutionary goals, and their evolutionary methods. This is not to suggest a "superiority", but merely an observance that things are not equal. Your question should probably be "Why would a woman choose to commit herself to you". If you're just asking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 11:43 PM |
| 13 | Are relationships business transactions?Per u/questionasker012 Having particular things one is attracted to =/= seeing relationships as business transactions. I don’t think certain men preferring women with large chests necessarily means they view relationships as transactional, for example. There is nothing inherently wrong with a transactional relationship. All of your relationships in life are transactional, some more & some less. When you go into a relationship with a person, are you willing to do it if the person doesn't give y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Are relationships business transactions?I'm going to reply to your comment on my other reply, in the interest in organization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 11:21 PM |
| 35 | Are relationships business transactions?Per mod request, I've reformatted this. These are headlines ripped straight from FDS. The Female Dating Strategy Podcast: EP. 9 - We Like Big Dicks and We REFUSE to Lie A man isn't automatically higher value if he has a good job, money, or even looks. Looking for a partner, whether for an LTR or a fling, is akin to shopping. Remember that ladies - "I no longer pour into cups that don't pour into mine" view relationships as transactions. To counteract liberal feminists and beta males trying to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Are relationships business transactions?Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 11:09 PM |
| 5 | Are relationships business transactions?This is good faith. These are straight from FDS. If the user claims that FDS doesn't represent things, than it is very good faith to illustrate exactly what is being said, without any possibility of paraphrasing or being misconstrued. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 11:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitWomen aren’t as happy these days because the demands of being a career woman plus the demands of family are too much for them. Right, doing both is difficult. That's why the roles were split up. Women who have a career don't pursue men who don't, whereas men who have a career do pursue women who don't, so while men don't have a choice but to chase a career, women do, and they choice they're making makes them measurably unhappy. In fact, women who are single are often the happiest, according to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 07:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitModern women don't want to submit. This isn't really very true. Modern women don't want to submit when it suits them. Go to the deadbedrooms, bdsm, etc etc forums, and you'll see they're absolutely riddled with women wishing their men were more assertive, "take charge", in more masculine physical shape. You don't see any women looking for men they can dominate, any weaker men, any poorer men. You don't see women fighting for more dangerous or risky positions, you see women fighting for positions… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 05:05 PM |
| 16 | The real reason some women are against porn, prostitution and pick mes has nothing to do with protecting their fellow women. It has to do with monopolising sexual pleasureFrankly, if we’re being logical, women should embrace porn and pros - the could absorb the sexuality of the ugly and creepy men of the world ... Saving us all the hassle of being approached by them Women don't want this at all logically, women want to relegate ugly men to a 'slave' status. Go work in the mines and give me my good life, you ugly worthless man. Women complain about a lesser version of the same treatment from men towards ugly women, with the notable exception that Ugly/lower SMV me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 06:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitA woman who doesn't have sex with a man because she's not in the mood is not being abused This wasn't what was stated. It was stated that the man was being abused. And the verb "Withhold" which is a deliberate action was used. Not "not in the mood". No matter how many times you slide the goal posts or alter the verbiage slightly here and there, men and women expect things from each other in a relationship, and this is perfectly normal. Men are held to the standards of "Provide and Protect"; wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understanda full 40% reported at least one instance of saying “no” but meaning “yes” in their life, with the majority of them indicating that they had engaged in this behavior multiple times. For the sake of comparison, 85% of women reported saying “no” and meaning it at least once, and about 70% saying “no” and meaning “maybe” at least once. Nice try. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 02:07 AM |
| 2 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandAnd 40% of women polled report deliberately telling their partner no while hoping they would be forceful and take them anyways. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pop-psych/201408/just-say-no-and-be-sure-mean-it%3famp He might have been crude, but until he actually threatens you, nothing illegal has happened, and you should quit bitching that someone who saw you thought the qualities you've worked for to attract men, was worth shooting his shot at, however crude it was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 02:03 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandA man saying he wants to fuck your ass is not a man threatening to rape you. He might be crude, but its not illegal to be crude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:55 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandActually, my usual reply is " thanks", because I work hard to be attractive, and i don't pretend that I'm only doing it for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandA fever is a symptom of a cold, it doesn't mean all fevers are colds. And no chance following someone around is the same as yelling something at them, get out of here with that objectivist garbage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:51 AM |
| 2 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandNope, another poster maybe. I said the language needs to be consistent for men and women. Nice try though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:49 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandCatcalling is not rape or sexual violence. I've been catcalled. Get over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandGiven that we're at the safest point ever, I'd have to start with "acceptable" and adjust based on the statistical average towards a national average, and a national average towards a global one. And then we'd have to quantify the value of freedoms we'd have to take away or add to lower/raise those values. And then we'd have to normalize the language, because only defining rape as penetrative or other gender specific language is garbage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:44 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandIt just needs to be equal for attempting to force imprisonment on someone else. "Slander" is incredibly disrespectful to the victims of a life ruining crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:34 AM |
| 4 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandIts not slander when it comes with 5 years of prison, a sex offender registry, and a felony record. Nice try. A deliberately false rape allegation deserves the same prison time a rape does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandRape is not high. In order for it to be high, you have to have something to compare it to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:20 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandGoogle "woman gets fair punishment for trying to steal 5 years of someone's life because she's mad at him" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandThey're called facts. You have none. I brought mine, sourced them, and you resorted to childish name calling, as expected. 5/7 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:17 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandSo women risk 30 days at home vs using the state to kidnap a man for 5 years? Get the fuck out of here complaining that rape punishments aren't hard enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandSo basically you have nothing to actually comepare it to, just your feels. Got it. You live in the safest time and place for women ever, and you bitch louder than ever. As I said, blown out of proportion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:13 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandYour anecdotal friends are not a valid measurement for anything, nice try. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:11 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandPrison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_rape#:~:text=Prison%20sentences%20for%20rape%20are,time%20served%20was%205.4%20years. So 5.4 years for rape. What was the average for a false allegation? Oh right, 0.0 y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitActually, he's being abused, and doesn't have any obligation to a one sided commitment. No one has suggested that a woman should be obligated to stay with an abusive man, why are you advocating for a man to stay with an abusive woman? Why are you advocating for domestic violence towards men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 01:05 AM |
| 3 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandHigh is a measurement used to compare versus something else. Can you cite anything to suugest that rape is "high" versus something else? Otherwise you simply dont like where its at, but that certainly doesn't make it high. There are 7 billion people in the world, and nearly 150,000 people die per day, but that doesn't make 150,000 high even though that could be twisted to say that 7.5 entire towns die per day. Rape is at all time lows, yet anti-rape volume is at all time highs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 12:50 AM |
| 2 | A More Sophisticated Take on The 80/20 RuleWomen marry equal or up, men marry equal or down. Obviously there are exceptions. The Economics of Hypergamy http://ftp.iza.org/dp12185.pdf If the government pays for your kids, or you can force a man to pay with a legal system, however, there is no reason for a woman to stay loyal when she can have the benefits of an attractive partner and abuse the system for the benefits of a resource partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 11:36 PM |
| 5 | A More Sophisticated Take on The 80/20 RuleWomen are better looking than men. Objectively, Women are also the only gender to use makeup to fake their looks. If Women were forced to compete with their natural looks like men, the dating game would likely change significantly. edit: and before we say "men can do it too"; this isn't a desired trait, so it doesn't matter if they can do it, if no one is caring. This is no different than Women who get a degree and can't figure out why Men don't care; Men aren't looking for a woman with a degree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 11:22 PM |
| 9 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandOver the last four decades, rape has been declining. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, the adjusted annual per-capita victimization rate of rape has declined from about 2.4 per 1000 people (age 12 and above) in 1980 (that is, 2.4 persons from each 1000 people 12 and older were raped in 1980) to about 0.4 per 1000 people in 2003, a decline of about 85%. There are several possible explanations for this, including stricter laws and education on security for women. Rape in the Un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 10:53 PM |
| 7 | Reasonable skepticism of the opposite gender that neither seems to understandAnd 95% of the time when a woman is caught making false allegations there are no punishments for her. And this incentivizes false allegations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 10:46 PM |
| 8 | Q4all: Do men have a moral obligation to physically protect women in dangerous situations?Yes, and I look forward to more media headlines that say "how could those men just stand there and watch that woman get beat up". This is equality, that's how. I'm not stepping in when a man fights another man, why would I step in when a man fights a woman? Call the cops, they'll be here in 15-30 minutes, I'm sure nothing bad will happen during that time. Chivalry is creepy, after all. Perhaps if our society wants the physically larger gender to step in and protect the smaller, it will start val… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitHow is a woman who withholds sex because she is not in the mood This is not the same as withholding. Withholding is something you do deliberately. What has been specifically stated is that when one party withholds sex in order to change the behavior of another party, this is coercive control. a guy who refuses to do chores because he is not in the mood If he is doing this to change the behavior of his partner, than it is also coercive control. Interesting that you compared a Woman being a sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 06:46 PM |
| 13 | Q4all: Do men have a moral obligation to physically protect women in dangerous situations?However modern western society has decided that this is not a valuable trait worth paying for. Men are expected to be in the "Protector" role at all times, but receive no pay for it. Bad deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 05:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitMen can have a problem committing, too, if you want to make that argument. If a woman withholds sex, then that man is likely going to try to find it with another woman. This also shows a lack of commitment from men. Firstly, The vast, vast majority of divorces (70-80%) of divorces are initiated by women. 90% of the alimony is paid by men. Secondly, you stated yourself: If a woman withholds sex This is sexual coercive control: Coercive control refers to a pattern of controlling behaviors that cre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 05:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitI'm not hateful of Women, I'm hateful of lies. I'm hateful of people who tell others that a starving man is luckier than a man with too many choices. I'm hateful of people in positions of privilege telling people without that they don't understand how hard it is to have that privilege. I've been homeless, and hungry. I've been told I was too white to get any financial funding. I took that and made it into a 6 figure income in an in-demand field. I understand the world because I had to live it fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 08:24 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitThey've committed long enough. I wasn't aware that "commitment" had to mean a lifelong commitment. You weren't aware that "until death do us part" meant forever? Were you married before you learned what words meant? Either he does something to mess it up or she realizes that it was a bad match and this is what causes most divorces, not a lack of ability to commit. Actually, if you only commit when life is great, that's not a commitment. Also notice you went straight to "the man did something w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 03:14 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitI didn't misuse anything; Now do women. Now tell me about "equality". Is marriage a huge risk? Yep, no arguments there. Not for women. Not when the legal system rewards shitty behavior. edit: I argue if you've already been divorced and you remarry (i.e. Trump) it's your own fault if you get divorce raped. Your honor, I'd like to argue that if a woman is raped once, and proceeds to walk down the same alley again, it's her fault she was raped a second time. Nice victim blaming. Divorced men shou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/21 03:02 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitOr there should be a framework to codify value to commitment. Like marriage. This is exactly why marriage was created, social stability and an equitable understanding that Women are valuable early, and men late, but both are necessary to reproduce. Society as a whole is far more productive in the long run when pairings are healthy and society is stable. Marriage made breaking bonds for men extremely taxing as a penalty for abandoning the commitment they wanted. In exchange, they had access to po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 11:52 PM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL]How important is not being “boring” to success in dating/romance?While men might not like a hot woman who kicked puppies, they would absolutely sleep with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 11:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitAre you stating that men who give commitment without abundance is humiliating? (I just want to be clear on what you're asking) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 10:26 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitWith social media, women are being advertised to as being "top tier" (even when they're not) and thus they don't want "not top tier" men. Women then choose men who chase the traits they claim they want (athletics, wealth, status) and complain that those traits don't come with the traits they aren't advertising for (loyalty, equality, appreciation). Men literally complain they can't get the interview to begin with, and of the 48% of the men who succeed in the interview, 70-80% of them are fired… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 10:25 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitNot liking your options is far different than having no options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 10:21 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitI've been actually homeless and actually starving, so yea, I'd have taken McDonalds every single time. You have the option of getting calories to hold you over until you can get to your preferred meal. The starving person has to hope to find something. It is the drastically disrespectful to imply that not liking your choices is as bad as having no choices. I'm not saying you have to like your choices, but that in no way compares to having none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 10:21 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitNo, you might be voluntarily fasting, but that isn't the same as involuntarily starving. One involves choice, one does not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 09:08 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitActually, they are terrible at committing. 70-80% of divorces are initiated by women. Men who are high value don't need to commit because women don't value commitment from high value men. Why is this? Because women don't commit. A low value man offers his commitment because he views it as a commodity and he offers it in exchange for the relationship. It is the woman who de-values that commitment and moves onward to a more valuable guy. As someone whose had multiple other peoples wives come after… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 08:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitTelling the starving person that he doesn't understand how hard it is to choose from your private buffet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 08:16 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitNo one gender is any more or less capable of committing But one gender demonstrates overwhelmingly that they do not commit, and it isn't men. Supposing what someone could do is pointless when that isn't what they actually do. If 20-30% of committed women want to complain that their peers (70-80% of divorces are initiated by women) are ruining it for them, they wouldn't be wrong. A woman committing to a relationship is a bad bet. A man committing is a good bet. These are facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 08:12 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitMen are actually very into commitment, just not commitment that involves taking 90% of the risk for 10% of the reward. Women constantly complain that all men are jerks, yet it is women who pick these men. The truth is that men are very happy when they find a woman that doesn't require them to put on a monkey dance every day forever to keep them entertained, at the threat of taking half their stuff if they don't. It is women who leave relationships 70-80% of the time, not men. Your experience is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 08:06 PM |
| 1 | How is not wanting to date an unemployed man any different than men not wanting to date a fat woman?You literally just stated: Employment suggests how many resources you have to contribute. Which is exactly what I said. There are no "accept poor men" movements even though men intrinsically accept poorer women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 07:16 PM |
| 3 | Study finds men are more likely to rebound after the termination of relationshipnow that we are in a more egalitarian society, this gap will probably close. The data actually shows that in existing "equality" focused countries, the birth rate plummets, the marriage rates plummet, and the number of chronically single partners skyrockets. Norway is the most egalitarian country in the world (by consensus) and also houses the largest per-capita rate of single(s). So no, people aren't learning to cohabitate better, they're choosing to be alone. Egalitarian societies also show th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/21 06:56 AM |
| 10 | Covid reduced mens enrollment into college 7x that of womens..... a fact burried under feminists "WoMeNz MoSt AfFECTED bY COVID-19 even though men 40% more likely to die, 300% more likely to need ICU and 44% more life years lost globally by men than women due to COVID"Suicide statistics reveal that women are roughly three times more likely to attempt suicide, though men are two to four times more likely to die by suicide. Compared to men, women show higher rates of suicidal thinking, non-fatal suicidal behavior, and suicide attempts. https://www.verywellmind.com/gender-differences-in-suicide-methods-1067508 | /r/MensRights | 01/05/21 06:09 PM |
| 13 | Covid reduced mens enrollment into college 7x that of womens..... a fact burried under feminists "WoMeNz MoSt AfFECTED bY COVID-19 even though men 40% more likely to die, 300% more likely to need ICU and 44% more life years lost globally by men than women due to COVID"This is a factually incorrect statement. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/21 05:56 PM |
| 0 | About 30% of men age 18-24 are "incels", while only 10% were unemployed (pre-COVID figures). This is why we as men can't afford to obsess over sex.The solution to "are we being targeted to genocide" is not "let's genocide ourselves first" | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/04/21 09:20 PM |
| 0 | About 30% of men age 18-24 are "incels", while only 10% were unemployed (pre-COVID figures). This is why we as men can't afford to obsess over sex.This is the type of thinking that leads to very violent outcomes. Suggesting you kill off, and keep killing men, such that you artificially cull the population of gender X but not gender Y, is how you start a viscous war with an enemy that dehumanizes you completely, seeing as your preponderance has already dehumanized them. You could play this game, but it would be 100% reasonable for people being targeted for genocide to respond in kind, and there is no reason for them to listen to any rules a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/04/21 08:45 PM |
| 2 | If not for having children, what are some reasons that a man would want to get married?Because the problem is men get married to people they don't trust too quickly. Right. Let's not victim blame here, eh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Are we heading towards a polygamous society?The bottom 80% of men are fighting over the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are fighting over the top 20% of men. Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder — a quantitative socio-economic study | by worst-online-dater | Medium | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 10:55 PM |
| 5 | Are we heading towards a polygamous society?64% of millennial moms have a child outside of marriage, according to Johns Hopkins researchers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 10:34 PM |
| 2 | If not for having children, what are some reasons that a man would want to get married?It also increases your likelihood of being cheated on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 04:52 PM |
| 4 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesJust because I am aroused by someone doesn’t mean I want to fuck them! Actually this is exactly what it means. Your conscious brain might not, but your subconscious one does. Or do you think that your conscious brain controls your arousal? Lol. you are essentially accusing every man who has ever had an arousal in public of wanting to fuck whoever got them aroused, which is not true I'm not accusing anything. Men get aroused because they're observing a sexually attractive person, and yes, do wa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/21 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesScientific American (informally abbreviated SciAm or sometimes SA) is an American popular science magazine. Many famous scientists, including Albert Einstein, have contributed articles to it. In print since 1845, it is the oldest continuously published monthly magazine in the United States (though it did not become monthly until 1921). Scientific American - Wikipedia | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 11:39 PM |
| 2 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesYou are equating attraction with willingness to have sex Sexual attraction is attraction on the basis of sexual desire or the quality of arousing such interest. Sexual attraction - Wikipedia This is literally the definition of sexual attraction, which is clearly what is being measured. Stop trying to redefine words, its no more acceptable when progressives do it than when conservatives do. You cannot make an assumption that attraction = willingness to have sex unless you conduct multiple studi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 11:02 PM |
| 2 | How is not wanting to date an unemployed man any different than men not wanting to date a fat woman?Physical shape is about who you are. Employment is about what you can give. There are "accept me as I am" body positivity movements, dominated by women who don't want to develop themselves into attractive partners. There are no "accept me as I am" job positivity movements demanding that someone should accept a person for their lack of job. Men marry down. Women marry up. Hypergamy is proven. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesSensationalist pop article about 1 scientific paper for clickbait is not a good source, Scientific American (informally abbreviated SciAm or sometimes SA*) is an American* popular science magazine. Many famous scientists, including Albert Einstein, have contributed articles to it. In print since 1845, it is the oldest continuously published monthly magazine in the United States ...it endorsed Joe Biden for the 2020 presidential election, citing Donald Trump's rejection of scientific evidence ...… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesI’ve met a lot of conservative fathers/men with internalized misandry. There’s literally terms like beta and cuck all men use to demean each other. Insulting a demographic and then commenting that they insult each other. Seems like you're in the same boat they are. Misandry dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e. the male sex). I've met a lot of liberals with internalized Misandry & Misogyny. I've met a lot of liberals with externalized Misandry & Misogyny. I've never … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issues88 undergraduate pairs of While I would also prefer large sample sizes, this is a relatively unexplored question, so I think its folly to turn a layman's nose up at data. particular friendships. This is disingenuous. The study clearly references these as platonic friends, the very same type referred to in the "Can men and women be friends". There isn't some big long list of friend types that were excluded for devious purpose, but your comment here only serves to create doubt, no different than… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 06:58 PM |
| -8 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesNor are your snarky comments. Men at large agree, and studies prove it. You just want it to fit into your narrative. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Why I’m done talking to conservative men about men’s issuesMen and Women Can't Be "Just Friends" - Scientific American The results suggest large gender differences in how men and women experience opposite-sex friendships. Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite-sex friends were attracted to them... ...In fact, men’s estimates of how attractive they were to their female friends had virtually nothing to do with how these women actually felt, and almost everythi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/21 10:35 PM |
| 1 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?When femininity means being controlled and masculine means controlling, yes it is sexist. There are lots of things men don't control in our current system. The lie that "men chose" everything causes a fundamental misunderstanding of how human life evolved. And of course "tradition" is heavily sexist, so definitions formed out of oppressive systems will inherently be sexist. Nature is sexist. Only women have kids. Only men produce sperm. Men have 400% the upper body strength women do. We are no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 09:42 PM |
| 1 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?And in the interest of fairness: Masculinity - Wikipedia Traits traditionally viewed as masculine in Western society include strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness.[9][10][11][12] So when you complain that Well we don't have to have the same values. What you're really saying is I don't like the definition of the word, so I make my own definition up and tell people we don't share "values". And if you're curious as to why they're "sexist", its because they were derived fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 04:48 PM |
| 1 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?Femininity - Wikipedia What is considered feminine? Traits such as nurturance, sensitivity, sweetness, supportiveness, gentleness, warmth, passivity, cooperativeness, expressiveness, modesty, humility, empathy, affection, tenderness, and being emotional, kind, helpful, devoted, and understanding have been cited as stereotypically feminine. So they're not really "my values"; They're the definition of femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 04:38 PM |
| 1 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?What are the desired feminine partner skills? Inspiration. Agreeableness. Soft Support (Emotional resources to build on) What masculine partner skills is he going to provide in exchange? Leadership. Security. Hard support (Physical resources to build on) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 02:55 AM |
| 6 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?their own inability to be attracted to women beyond an age-range that constitutes 15% of a woman's life-span This isn't very representative of what's been stated. Men are attracted to people that are in shape, so are women. Men are not attracted to Women with baggage, this especially includes kids. Men who date/LTR women in their 30s are often likely to be dating a woman who already has 1/2 kids and doesn't want more, so women are asking men to not reproduce, while having already reproduced them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/21 09:35 PM |
| 3 | Bitter Truthhttp://www.breakingthescience.org/SimplifiedDataFromDHHS.php Women are more often violent. Men are "better" at violence. Domestic violence reflects this. Intimate partner murder rates reflect this. Suicide attempts reflect this. Suicide rates reflect this. The "men are more violent than women" narrative is a myth. The most violent relationship type is between two women. The least violent, two men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/21 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Im not the one making the claim. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0038038520918847 Building upon research that moves beyond the ‘negative effects paradigm’ in the study of pornography, we show that consuming pornography is both disciplining and empowering for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 06:46 AM |
| 2 | The Ugly History of Rape PanicsDo you realize yet that you're the only one talking about fascism? I said totalitarianism. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/21 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever LTR a man with a lot of sexual partners?I have been hit on by very high value guys Is it possible you're mis-identifying your own value? Shooting out of ones league is a common reason for women to be made into 'casuals'. It doesn't tend to be reported as often for men because when a (5) man gets hit up by a (7) woman, he is happy for the encounter(s) even if they don't lead to a relationship. | /r/RedPillWomen | 24/04/21 05:41 PM |
| 31 | Would you ever LTR a man with a lot of sexual partners?One of my worst fears is getting a partner who gives me less of themselves sexually because they associate certain sex acts with casual partners and not ones they love. This is one that many men deal with too. I don't understand how a partner can not realize that when you reject your new partners desire to "conquer you" as it were, but you allowed a previous partner to "conquer you", you're literally telling the new partner that they aren't as much of a sexual equal as your old partners. While I… | /r/RedPillWomen | 24/04/21 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Lol, this comment is so full of trash. So the porn that 'empowers women when they watch it, 'completely destroys mens brains'? Right. You can deny whateveryou want, but dont pretend youre interested in a real discussion when you casually disregard research you dont like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 04:45 PM |
| 2 | The Ugly History of Rape PanicsYour little Lol. Little ad hominem there? I didn't call it fascism. I said a car and a truck are functionally identical if they're both used to run people over. I'd call modern feminism a form of totalitarianism, because it has no tolerance for viewpoints other than it's own. Men are "not allowed" to have viewpoints unless they expressly agree with the feminist narrative about the patriarchy. Women are "brainwashed" if they disagree with the Feminist movement, and women are not allowed to choose… | /r/MensRights | 24/04/21 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Lol, that's like arguing that broken clocks are still useful time telling devices because they're right twice a day. It's clearly a question designed for the masses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 10:01 AM |
| 1 | The Ugly History of Rape PanicsThere is no such thing as anti-racists; humankind is and always has been functionally tribal, we simply re-evaluate which tribe is 'trending' depending on our needs and the social environment in that time period. Feminists are not arguing for equality, that is an objective fact, and can be empirically proven. Equality has a very specific definition. Women are not arguing that there should be equal representation in all jobs, or that all women deserve equal choice in their role. While feminism to… | /r/MensRights | 24/04/21 08:49 AM |
| 7 | Why aren’t men fighting for their rights the same way other groups (who’ve claimed inequality/discrimination) have?You recognize that both /r/TheRedPill/ and /r/MGTOW are both quarantined subreddits, right? And /r/Femaledatingstrategy which advertises that men should be killed or castrated en large, is still unquarantined? The Misogyny And Insecurity Of Men's Rights Activism (feminisminindia.com) We could go on and on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 10:00 PM |
| 9 | Why aren’t men fighting for their rights the same way other groups (who’ve claimed inequality/discrimination) have?It’s very rare to see men unite together for a cause that will help all of them the same way we’ve seen other groups who have claimed discrimination unite. (Women, lgbt, black, etc). Currently when men do it, they're called hate groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Men's insistence that pumping and dumping is moral confirms that male attention is worthless for womenThere are no rules. Men can treat women they sleep with any way they want to. There used to be rules. Feminists have advocated for the removal of rules. What do you think marriage and monogamy are, if not rules? Women can (and do) treat men as disposable "swipes"; men have adapted to treat women the same. That's all you're describing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 08:43 PM |
| 1 | The Ugly History of Rape Panicspeople push for words to lose their meaning and make everything a most egregious violation 100% Agree with with. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 07:09 PM |
| 3 | The Ugly History of Rape PanicsThey share structual elements. That doesn't make them identical. A car and a truck both have engines and wheels and are used for transport. While I agree strongly with the first statement, they are are still both identical if they are both used to run people over. Feminism is well past "equality" at this point. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?They aren't consciously aware of it, any more than you're consciously aware you breath. Have you ever looked at a potential partner and thought "He's too tall, too short, too white, too black, too [insert demographic]"? Can you say you were consciously aware of why you were making those comparisons? You're wired to do it. This is why men are not "controlling" when they tell women that they don't want them hanging around with certain male "friends", they're simply more in tune with the peacocking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?No one said you owed them anything, but it's on each of us to be as aware as possible. You should also be aware that if you turn to people who find you attractive for relationship advice, they're much more likely to give you advice that leads you towards them, as opposed to honestly useful advice to help you stay with a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 05:43 PM |
| 12 | Studies Show Lesbians Much More Likely to Beat, Sexually Abuse Their Wives Than Heterosexual MenNISVS: An Overview of 2010 Findings on Victimization by Sexual Orientation (cdc.gov) This isn't homophobia. If women's relationships with women are the most violent overall, and mens relationships with men are the least violent overall, then we can conclude that women are the most violent gender. Sexual orientation simply serves to eliminate relationships that include both genders, creating a "control" group. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 05:30 PM |
| 10 | Studies Show Lesbians Much More Likely to Beat, Sexually Abuse Their Wives Than Heterosexual MenNISVS: An Overview of 2010 Findings on Victimization by Sexual Orientation (cdc.gov) | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 05:29 PM |
| 9 | Studies Show Lesbians Much More Likely to Beat, Sexually Abuse Their Wives Than Heterosexual MenNISVS: An Overview of 2010 Findings on Victimization by Sexual Orientation (cdc.gov) | /r/MensRights | 23/04/21 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Oh good. Science is propaganda, but random people on the internet know better. Best be careful, I hear that vaccine causes Microsoft Autism™ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 06:50 AM |
| 5 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Men are overwhelmingly going to be interested in getting with a female friend, regardless of her relationship status and women will overwhelmingly not be interested in a guy if he's in a relationship already. Men and Women Can't Be "Just Friends" - Scientific American Even if men and women can be friends when no one is in a relationship (even though the guy still wants to sleep with her at this time), the moment a woman is in a relationship, that friendship likely needs to stop for her to have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 06:14 AM |
| 0 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Like science? Women, too, were blind to the mindset of their opposite-sex friends; because females generally were not attracted to their male friends, they assumed that this lack of attraction was mutual. As a result ... women consistently underestimated the level of attraction felt by their male friends. ... Men seem to see myriad opportunities for romance in their supposedly platonic opposite-sex friendships. The women in these friendships, however, seem to have a completely different orientat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 06:09 AM |
| -1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Women, too, were blind to the mindset of their opposite-sex friends; because females generally were not attracted to their male friends, they assumed that this lack of attraction was mutual. As a result ... women consistently underestimated the level of attraction felt by their male friends. ... Men seem to see myriad opportunities for romance in their supposedly platonic opposite-sex friendships. The women in these friendships, however, seem to have a completely different orientation—one that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 06:08 AM |
| 2 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Women, too, were blind to the mindset of their opposite-sex friends; because females generally were not attracted to their male friends, they assumed that this lack of attraction was mutual. As a result ... women consistently underestimated the level of attraction felt by their male friends. ... Men seem to see myriad opportunities for romance in their supposedly platonic opposite-sex friendships. The women in these friendships, however, seem to have a completely different orientation—one that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women really be friends, or will there always be sexual/romantic attraction? Does AF/BB play into this?Women, too, were blind to the mindset of their opposite-sex friends; because females generally were not attracted to their male friends, they assumed that this lack of attraction was mutual. As a result ... women consistently underestimated the level of attraction felt by their male friends. ... Men seem to see myriad opportunities for romance in their supposedly platonic opposite-sex friendships. The women in these friendships, however, seem to have a completely different orientation—one that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Feminism and TRPIf you think women are not inferior, be a feminist. This is a very sexist statement, because it implies directly that men who don't want to be feminist are sexist. I can think that women have two dimes and a nickel, and I can have a quarter, and we're both being treated fairly even though we both have different coins. feminism is wrong Feminism is wrong for the same reason Masculism is wrong. Focusing on gender to determine why a hierarchy is structured any which way serves nothing except to d… | /r/askTRP | 23/04/21 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Feminism and TRPYou can be strong and still think women deserve to be respected equally as men You cannot have any opinion other than total submission to the feminist narrative or you'll be entirely rejected for being a "toxic man". Subservience is not a trait of masculinity, it is in fact directly opposed to such a thing. Masculinity - Wikipedia Traits traditionally viewed as masculine in Western society include strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness.[9][10][11][12] You cannot be any of… | /r/askTRP | 23/04/21 05:45 AM |
| 0 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestJust because you call me a child Actually, I said you acted like a child. You know, when you were name calling. Nice try though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 10:01 PM |
| 7 | Why Don't You All Go MGTOWAll redpillers say that women are hypergynous creatures who will jump from less successful men to more successful men if given the opportunity and cheat No, this is what the data says. The Economics of Hypergamy (iza.org) Edit: to be clear, the rest is largely on the individual man to be willing to deal with. Plenty choose to, and plenty of women make efforts to reduce their own branch-swinging, even if they engage in hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 09:52 PM |
| 0 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestI'm not offended. You've just demonstrated that you're going to act like a child and I don't argue with children. And by the way, nice victim blaming. "I'm sorry I acted inappropriately to you, but you deserved it based on my opinion. " Lol. edit: this thread / tangent specifically started because you asked for evidence that women had more orbiters than men, which i provided. You kept insisting that this doesn't matter because men and women cheat at about the same rates, except that wasn't the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestAd hominem I choose you. We're done here. Enjoy not knowing what your male friends are thinking, in your precious bubble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 09:05 PM |
| 5 | Feminism and TRPWe think just because they are not aggressive and sensitive they shouldn't be treated less of a man. Except when it comes time to have sex, where evidence OVERWHELMINGLY supports that phyiscally dominant men reproduce more than others. Feminist men can be attractive if they project strength. Aka feminist men can be attractive if they project masculinity instead of femininity. We want overweight women to be not bullied and treated like crap This is a woman problem. Men just ignore overweight … | /r/askTRP | 22/04/21 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Why is the bar for men so low?Women are unhappier in their relationships, less sexually satisfied, more likely to be murdered and abused Women are more likely to be abusers. Men are just "better" at abuse. Facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestRight, I specifically said that. That creates some obvious imbalances. When a man has issues in his relationship and he turns to his few female friends, the women in his circle are significantly less likely to offer advice that hurts your relationship or attempt to create a relationship out of the situation. When a woman has issues in her relationship and she turns to her many male friends, they are ALL likely to offer advice that hurts your relationship and attempt to get with her as if she w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestThis question is serious, and not intended to sound pejorative, but on paper it will look that way. I'm stating this in the interest of continuing a quality back and forth discussion and for observers. Do you really not understand why a woman having 5-10 guy friends who will sleep with her is more dangerous to a relationship than a guy having 1-2 who would? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestBoth men and women were equally attracted to romantically involved opposite-sex friends and those who were single*;* “hot” friends were hot and “not” friends were not, regardless of their relationship status. However, men and women differed in the extent to which they saw attached friends as potential romantic partners. We've clearly been discussing orbiters as they relate to a relationship. You're working really hard to create a spin for your narrative. If a man in a relationship goes to a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestHowever, men and women differed in the extent to which they saw attached friends as potential romantic partners. Although men were equally as likely to desire “romantic dates” with “taken” friends as with single ones, women were sensitive to their male friends’ relationship status and uninterested in pursuing those who were already involved with someone else. Men seem to see myriad opportunities for romance in their supposedly platonic opposite-sex friendships*. The women in these friendships,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestSo you're saying that if men and women cheat the same amount with personal realationships, that men have a much higher per-personal relationship (because they have a significantly smaller personal relationship circle, this is verifiable all over the place), than the personal relationships that women do? Man, 10 friendships, 1 of whom would sleep with him Woman, 30 friendships, and you're saying only 1 of them would sleep with her? Men and Women Can't Be "Just Friends" - Scientific American The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestYou seem to be really stuck on the who-cheats-more, which I wasn't, as they're about equal. We were discussing orbiters. If women and men sleep with their personal relationships as often as each other, but women maintain more personal relationships, than women will have more personal relationships that are interested in sleeping with them, aka orbiters, and men will have less. Men will be more likely to cheat with the fewer orbiters, women will be more likely to cheat with the variety. If you're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestThat's not by friend, thats total. So men and women cheat with close friends the same amount, thats literally the result of the study you sent We were discussing orbiters; people that are waiting their turn to have sex with you. Women keeping significantly more personal relationships than men means that while a woman might look at her mans 10 friends and say: "yea, he might cheat with that girl" but men are looking at womens 30 friends and say "yea, she might cheat with 1, 2 , or 3 different guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't Honestif a person expects their partner to do domestic chores, their partner does bring their done domestic chores to the table 100% agree on this, if a woman tells me that she keeps a good house (cooking, cleaning, etc) and takes pride in it, I'll mentally count that as 30-40k in income brought to the table. I'm all about mutual cooperation and valuation, and I don't know anyone in my range (75k-125k) who isn't. Feminism, not Masculism, devalued the role women play(ed) in the home. taking the initi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't Honestreward a behavior that no one is having personality, intelligence, criminal record, whether you want kids, etc. So you're regularly having to avoid felons, dumb people, and bland people? Sounds like you're shopping at the dollar store. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestWithout specifications whether it was something that is expected from everyone If it's expected from everyone, then you don't "bring it". My partners don't get points just for showing up. If you're not working for it, it's not something you bring. My husband and I started dating as broke students, whatever we brought to the table was rooted in our personalities and the desire to be together. This is a good set of choices and outcomes. It's a shame more of the world doesn't act like this. I a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 06:10 AM |
| 2 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestGo read what you said I was referring to what you wrote regarding your dad et al. Sure, I wont believe spewing without data When People Cheat, Who Do They Do It With? Is It Usually A Friend Or A Stranger? — Sex And Psychology (lehmiller.com) It turned out that most people reported extramarital sex with a close personal friend (53.5%), followed by the category of neighbor/friend/long-term acquaintance (29.4%). It was far less common for people to report cheating with a casual date or hook-up (2… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestYou literally said show up to move somewhere heavy, while I don't do that because im not that strong, my dad has shown up in the house of a lot of his friends to move heavy shit, I'm not clear about who is showing up where at whom's house. You have any data on that? Yes, but I'm not in my office at the moment, I'll try and respond to this later, but effectively women maintain more personal relationships, most cheating happens with people that the cheaters know. Given that women and men cheat a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 02:11 AM |
| 0 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't Honestthat is such an insanely capitalistic That is survival of the fittest. I choose qualities in a person that I think will benefit my wants the most. This is really no different than anyone else. When I make a poor choice (as I have) on a partner, I reflect on the qualities of the person I pursued and make different choices the next time. The difference is that as I get older, I'll continue to make more money, continue to be more in shape, than the majority of women whose money means nothing to me.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestAll interactions with people are transactions. When I hang out with a buddy at a hockey game, we both provide transactional improvements to each other's experiences. I wouldn't go to a hockey game with a buddy who hates hockey, as he wouldn't get anything from the experience. If acquaintances don't bring good transactions to my life, I drop them unless I'm so desperate for any transaction at all that I'd put up with the detriment. This is no different for anyone else, I'm just not afraid to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestSo this ought to make it clear to you both why you get what you get. LooksGood walks up to you at a bar, you jump the opportunity because he was accidentally born with good looks. ActsGood walks up to you at a bar. You turn him away for lack of tingles. If you want men to be clear about what they're after, reward the right behavior, not tingles. Otherwise, you're just going to ride LooksGood, settle with ActsGood while he's the best in sight, and upgrade to ActsBetter when the opportunity pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Is Hypergamy Real?Women consistently marry at their own or 1 higher (climbing the ladder), men consistently marry at their own or 1 lower. Why people continue to say "it just can't be true, women don't marry for money!" boggles me when the data is clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't Honesti think No one cares what you think. The stats are clear. Show me your stats on the rise of shorter, poorer, smaller dicked men with great attitudes who are getting laid and keeping long term relationships in their 20s in an area near you. y’all men made up so you don’t feel bad I qualify for the rule, so why would I feel bad? in all of my life i’ve never met a woman who lives by the “6 inches, 6 foot, 6 figures” Broke men are hurting American women's marriage prospects (nypost.com) Fewer pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestNo, because I don't know how to cook, but I've gone to a friend's place to help paint the wall, to teach them a subject I knew better than they did, to help with the preparations for a birthday party, to help in a moving day, to cheer them up when they were sad With the exception of Teaching someone something (since you're giving the gift of knowledge), these all sound like 2 person activities. We've clearly been talking about when Orbiter's show up with gifts of all sorts "oh hay, I know you li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestDude you can be indirectly clear as crystal and some dudes will nevertheless persist in their own indirect ways of trying to woo you Yes, this is generally why I advocate for direct discussion if it appears that either party is engaging in indirect behavior. As men are taught (even by feminists) that they need to be the "pursuing" partner, this will naturally be more of a man situation than a woman situation. When I have been pursued by people I'm not interested, I have had to do the same. It is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 11:12 PM |
| 4 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestIf you're here to argue that because you might be the counter-example, it isn't true, than you're falling victim to the failure to see that this is how all men are being portrayed by the loudest social and political group who claims to represent you. When a woman says I don't believe that, that doesn't represent me or my experiences with men, in regards to Feminism rhetoric, you are needed to be a public voice against these experiences. I certainly give no quarter to the TRP rhetoric that is g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestYes, people usually give their friends gifs on their birthdays, friends also have "secret Santa" sometimes, people sometimes bring gifts for their friends when they travel. I do all of that to my femele friends, does that mean I'm gay? If you would only every give someone a gift if they're willing to fuck you you probably should ask beforehand Obviously no one is talking about special circumstances. We aren't discussing "birthdays, secret santas, etc". We're talking about everyday situations whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 10:29 PM |
| 17 | Is Hypergamy Real?I think that human minds are far more complicated and inconsistent animal brains are. Humans are animals. Norway is consistently voted the most gender-neutral country in the world. iza institute of labor economics paper research paper on Hypergamy in Norway. http://ftp.iza.org/dp12185.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0UMikNGiqSEZxdyKZ71-wiPMegJqBW-s5aRnZUW4qbGvZ0T-NPWtKN03w Hypergamy is real. The debate is over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 10:20 PM |
| 10 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestSame could be said of the men who are "courting" without actually declaring their interest. Men are very clear. So clear, in fact, that women complain about the men they don't like being clear about what they want. Women aren't dumb enough to be unaware when they're getting more attention from a man than they do from a normal friendship, I'm certainly not dumb enough to not realize when a woman is making an effort to insert herself into my social situations / time. Women as a whole are anything … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestPeople sometimes give gits to their friends. Not really, no. Are you talking about the 1 time that 1 friend gave you 1 thing? Or the guy whose showed up with "extra" coffee 5 times in the last two weeks? The exception is just that, an exception. If someone gives you two gifts in a short period of time, they're courting you, period. And it's not that women don't like "nice guys" they just don't like that dude for whatever reason Or the other 2-3 orbiters in her circle? pretty clear about my i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestSome people are dicks So, not all men? Funny how it's ok to use the argument when it benefits you, but decry it when it doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 09:46 PM |
| 3 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't Honestjust was initiative and agreeable. And these aren't things you "bring". These behaviors are basically expected of everyone. homemade soup and medicine when he got sick, baked for him While these things are generally good things (and things I would want in a partner), these are not the things that the women in the dating world are stating are important. 6 figures. 6 feet. 6 Inches. This is what women are advertising. I fit these categories, and I've been told my cars "aren't new enough" and "I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 08:43 PM |
| 11 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestYet they expect sex for their moral mediocrity. Is it better that women maintain this exclusively? edit: like seriously, name one thing you've ever done to earn your male partner(s). If men who are told "you're special, you deserve the world" show up and feel entitled, you have to remember that they were educated by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 07:52 PM |
| 21 | Women Shouldn't Complain About Nice Guys, If They Aren't HonestThey also bitch because women are prone to allowing them to believe their efforts will lead somewhere. I've spoken with plenty of women who are aware of their "orbiters" and find it convenient to keep them around. Women who don't want "nice guys" should just be clear and up front. If you accept semi frequent gifts from someone who isn't your partner, you're being courted. If you accept this courtship and then turn around and say "you don't have the right to expect anything", you're part of the p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 07:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Red Pill is Cult-Like and PredatoryWhat exact dependence can you quote it fostering? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 06:47 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The Red Pill is Cult-Like and PredatoryNever once in the red pill community have I ever heard someone expound on the virtues of critical thinking; never once have I ever heard anyone in that space promote rugged individualism. These are you problems, I read/listen to these exact things all the time. if you become too tribal, you inevitably fall into groupthink and cultic thinking This is true for any group; this is not a red-pill problem. (Dont ask me how I know this). This doesn't inspire confidence in anything we ought to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 06:06 PM |
| 2 | LTR and business tripsWhich actions are you looking for that would indicate sufficient consideration of one's partner in this instance? One of the things that TRP points out is that you shouldn't mate guard, and this is logical because you actually can't. That is to say, you can threaten another man, but you can't actually follow through on that threat, so it's empty. Other men have no reason to 'respect' your 'display', and women realize that although you talk a big game, she can walk away whenever, you have no auth… | /r/askTRP | 20/04/21 05:18 PM |
| 2 | LTR and business tripsIf you choose to go through with attendance, I might suggest that it would be wise to make your appearances qualitative, rather than quantitative. Good luck. | /r/askTRP | 20/04/21 07:20 AM |
| 3 | All I want to know is why people legitimately think like thisI am glad I am not the only one who can recognize that one's "own" group is capable of being wrong, and making the tough decision to risk self-inflicted social alienation in the pursuit of truth. High-five internet person! Have an upvote. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/21 06:12 AM |
| 2 | LTR and business tripsultimatum Ultimatums tend to be traps that wayward (or wayward desiring) partners use to label-trap their partners as "controlling". You need to make it clear that this is not an ultimatum, but rather a respect issue. As someone in an LTR, you need to make it clear that you expect LTR partners to demonstrate respect. TRP exists because there was a lack of respect for the male participation in relationships, and they adapted to avoid getting hurt while still getting some of what they wanted. TRP … | /r/askTRP | 20/04/21 05:25 AM |
| 2 | LTR and business tripsYou're both justifying why she ought to stay, and justifying why she ought to leave. As I said, if it's actually important to her, she'll bring the solution to you. This is generally how a successful partnership actually works, and TRP is largely an adaptation to unsuccessful women partners, aka those who have no respect for men's desires, and the learned response is the same, take what you want and only give her what she gives back, and never enough to hang you with. As someone who has alre… | /r/askTRP | 20/04/21 05:02 AM |
| 7 | Crazy how feminists are very concerned about getting high paying STEM jobs but seem very uninterested in fixing the gender gap in menial work like garbage collectionSo you feel women shouldn't be allowed to fight to get access to important societal jobs...unless they are also fighting to get more access to jobs they don't want? Are you for real? That's not how equality works. You fight for a fair share of what you do want. You don't fight for things you don't want. You're just desperately searching for a reason to be triggered eh? While the OP is not very good at articulating, lets dive further, you and me. Equality is actually fairly simple: Definition of … | /r/MensRights | 20/04/21 02:36 AM |
| 3 | LTR and business tripsShe said the ltr is more important to her Option 5. Tell her to prioritize finding another new job with more compatible circumstances for your relationship. She also argued the 20 other women have been doing this for years, and their husbands don't have problems with it. While I normally hate anecdotes, and I have no stats, I personally have known several women who've cheated on trips because "its free" and there is an excuse to be away, and their partners were never the wiser, sometimes years l… | /r/askTRP | 19/04/21 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Do stats show that women more difficult to have as Long term partners than men?i remember seeing a study that showed that single women were more happy and lived longer than married women and i don't doubt that it's true tbh. Per https://www.cdc.gov/ Products - Data Briefs - Number 309 - June 2018 (cdc.gov) From 2000 through 2016, suicide rates increased for both males and females, with greater annual percentage increases occurring after 2006. From 2000 through 2016, the age-adjusted suicide rate increased 30%, from 10.4 per 100,000 standard population to 13.5. The rate inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 09:37 PM |
| 3 | Ltr going out insteadim a little annoyed because its our anniversary, This is a girlfriend; the "anniversary" is a marriage thing. Go to dinner, go to the party, prolly finish the anniversary after. Seems like a normal back-and-forth to me. just so she could go to see her guy friend, like wtf Pretty sure "a going away party" is a bit different than "going to see her guy friend". If she was ditching and didn't invite you along so she could go 1 on 1 a guy, sure, but this isn't that situation. | /r/askTRP | 16/04/21 10:53 PM |
| 3 | Ltr going out insteadGoing to a friends, especially for a special activity is a normal thing. I just took a guy friend out for a 'going away' dinner myself, and cancelled plans with others to do so. She invited you to go. You're over reacting. If you just did this to be stubborn, that's dumb. | /r/askTRP | 16/04/21 10:44 PM |
| 29 | How to react to girlfriend's monetary purchases?I've bought dumb stuff, that's my business. As long as she isn't going broke expecting you to bail her out, or complaining she can't pay the rent, who cares? | /r/askTRP | 16/04/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardNo one encouraged these types of women. Do you really want me to start linking things? There is a massive culture of "fuck all men" right now. This subreddit wouldn't exist if it didn't. This thread wouldn't exist if Women withholding sex as a bargaining chip wasn't a common occurrence. You’re a very frustrated individual, Nope, I'm just a methodical person, and the data doesn't line up with the claims. I believe in vaccines, Don't think Microsoft is filling them with mind control chips, and b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 10:35 PM |
| 3 | Feminist is offended for Meninism.Masculism or masculinism may variously refer to ideology and socio-political movement that aims to eliminate sexism against men and equalizing their rights with women; and the adherence to or promotion of attributes (opinions, values, attitudes, habits) regarded as typical of men and boys. | /r/MGTOW | 16/04/21 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?So to make sure I'm clear. Men have public transportation options to mostly go to-from a job site. Women have societal and familial obligations to take care of the home, with things like going to market, and using a vehicle to assist in caring for the home? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double Standardexpect her vagina to be ready for sex 24/7 for the rest of your life. See, this is the problem. I can't say something reasonable without it mentally triggering you to assume the most ridiculous possible version of what someone said. 24/7? No, or course not. On a regular basis? Yea, absolutely. periods of times without sex for multiple different reasons. Yea, and "I'm tired" isn't one that passes for more than a night or two, at most. "Part time partners" is not a thing. Divorce/Marriage rates … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?How are husbands expected to get to the job that generates the currency? Walk? Are women expected to be toting around a bunch of kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardAre you asking if a partner had a disability that impaired a sexually functional relationship, would I choose celibacy? No, and neither would most people. Are you talking about a long term relationship where the partners are long term successful partners? In those cases its fairly common for the "defective" partner to give the "normal" partner a "hall pass" to physically meet their needs elsewhere. This isn't that hard, it's basic adulting 101. This "pussy on a pedestal" concept is garbage and n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardWon't say what? Go to the doctor? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Women are getting paid 75% for the same job? Or Women are legally entitled to 75% of the household income? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 08:39 PM |
| 19 | STUDY finds that women are "significantly" more likely to be verbally and physically abusive to men than vice versawilling to bet the number one reason women might be being more violent is the social acceptance of that violence. I actually just went back and had this discussion with my mother, as I was curious if I remembered the lessons from childhood correctly (I did); If a man hits you, hit him back hard enough to ensure he never comes back for more, and never under any circumstances (including being hit) hit a woman I call it the Pitbull and Chihuahua effect; Chihuahua's are actually more violent, but … | /r/MensRights | 16/04/21 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardSo after menopause 45% of women no longer have regular sex, got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardOk, I'll put it right next to the elephant that looks like an anorexic donkey. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardWhy on earth would you think it’s preferable to give your partner what they wanted in the moment whilst not enjoying it yourself Why Couples Have Sex Even When One Partner Isn't in the Mood | Psychology Today The only kind of man who advocates a woman just allow herself to be had sex with when she doesn’t feel like it is the kind of man who isn’t all that jazzed about enthusiastic consent. And that’s not a man I’d want to sleep with. Awfully sexist of you to assume that its a men on women thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 06:34 AM |
| 2 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardIts really not surprising that there are so many folks on reddit that have no idea how a healthy relationship works. Got any artwork you need hung up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 06:04 AM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardYou can simply answer the question. Do you enjoy having sex with people knowing they are not enjoying it? Alright, let's cut right down to brass tacks, since you're so keen to prove a point that isn't real so that you can pretend that life is some ideal fantasy you read about in a glamour magazine. Have you ever had a lady partner have a miscarriage? I have. I don't think there was a bone in her body that enjoyed the sex afterwards, but she needed it, she needed the validation to know that she w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 05:13 AM |
| 4 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardYou really think that women (and men) don't engage in the behavior I described above with their partners? Lolol. Go to /r/survivinginfidelity and ask if gaslighting is consensual. No one is talking about what random people tell you. And lets not forget that with recent law changes, if you don't ask your partner for consent, then you don't have it. So if you tell your partner that you love them when they're drunk, they couldn't have consented to that intimacy. YOU JUST forced non-physical intim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 04:31 AM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardSo you enjoying having sex with girls when they don't enjoy it? Or you wouldn't mind it? See, you can try to spin it all day long, I'm not going to buy into your "lets try to make it look like rape" bait. I've had sex with a partner because they needed it, even though I wasn't "in the mood", and knowing that it was giving them intimacy that they needed at that moment for some reason. Does it happen every time? No, of course not, but more often than not, sure. Was I "coerced"? No, I was a partner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 04:25 AM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardHave you noticed that literally nowhere on your post there is forced non physical intimacy Have you noticed that you don't actually know what forced non-physical intimacy is? nonphysical abuse such as psychological, financial and emotional abuse. It can include stalking, harassment, gaslighting, intimidation and threats. Threaten to leave someone because they're not man enough? forced non-physical intimacy Tell your girlfriend to stop being a fatass? forced non-physical intimacy Partner cheat … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 03:59 AM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardI hope you won’t say shit like “you’re not really in pain down there” to your partner Somehow, " Then you should probably get them medical attention, as any decent human being would say. No one is in pain "down there" on a typical day. " became a man-party of raping injured baby virgin kittens on all hallow's eve. Stop being an alarmist for some internet white knight points. If you're with a partner and they're in discomfort, it will be the DRASTICLY small percentage of total days. Now you're go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 03:53 AM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardThis is SO backwards - sex is a mutual enjoyable act It certainly can be, but it is certainly not required to be. Are you saying that prostitutes enjoy the sex that they have every time? Or are you saying that what prostitutes do doesn't count as sex because they don't enjoy it? Stop pretending life is some silly fantasy novel. Can you imagine forcing someone to make a surprise birthday party for you? Would you actually enjoy the party knowing that there was no thought and no meaning behind it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 03:46 AM |
| 2 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardThe reason breathing is a need is because you will die without it Perhaps you're not aware of what happens if nobody has any more babies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 03:38 AM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double Standard10 is such an arbitrary and small number, bizzare you would even request something like that 10 is totally an arbitrary number, I just picked a number; the point is simple, if you find a pile of couples, and you ask the men and women separately, "would you stay with your partner if they required you to be celibate for the rest of your days?" The answer would be overwhelmingly no. Let's not talk about the horse shit 1% that might be ok; no one cares about the 1%. Why would that be the case? If so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 03:36 AM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double Standardforced non physical intimacy Once again, wrong. https://msmagazine.com/2020/11/11/coercive-control-hawaii-california-domestic-violence/ "Coercive control is nonphysical abuse such as psychological, financial and emotional abuse. It can include stalking, harassment, gaslighting, intimidation and threats. " Unless you're saying that emotional abuse isn't intimate, in which case you're still wrong: Intimate: closely acquainted; familiar, close. private and personal. Now, are the laws behind "forced… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 11:45 PM |
| 0 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double Standarddangerously Firstly, let's stop with the "dangerously" anything; I'm not going to participate in bait statements. If your partner is in physical pain Then you should probably get them medical attention, as any decent human being would say. No one is in pain "down there" on a typical day. No one is condoning what you're suggesting, this is a "yea but what if" garbage statement. This discussion obviously focuses on the regular every day Tuesday. how far would someone go to get sex that their p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardSo you're saying that men don't get emotional support from the act of sex? https://innovativemen.com/blog/male-sexuality-and-emotional-needs IS SEX MORE EMOTIONAL FOR MEN THAN PEOPLE REALIZE? Absolutely. We talk about men’s sexual desire being largely triggered by physical appearance and things like lingerie, low-cut shirts, and high hemlines. Of course, this can be true. If not, why would women bother to dress provocatively? But what we miss is that the emotional piece often matters more. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 11:23 PM |
| 5 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardSex isn't a need firstly, it's a recreational activity. Go find 10 couples that would be stay couples if they weren't allowed to ever have sex again. Obviously, since they don't need it, they would stay together right? Stop being simple. Sex is an obvious need, not to mention the obvious biological requirements. Ironically, you prove the need for it when you don't reproduce. If you and your partner are busy not having sex cause you don't need it, you'll die off and I'll be right anyways. It's a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 11:13 PM |
| 4 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardWe coerce people into having sex all the time. You cooerce people into having sex all the time. All coercion has to involve is a threat. Go into a relationship and tell the other person "I don't ever want to have sex with you and if you leave me over it, its coercion". No one is saying physically handle your partner, but we use coercion all the time. The real question is, why does a "partner" need to be coerced to enjoy a shared activity that benefits the relationship, and their partner? edit: I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double StandardWhy? We ask people to do things they don't want to all the time. I think the better question is, if your partner has a need you can reasonably meet, why don't you want to? a good partner understands that their partner doesn't want to have sex at certain moments should just as easily say: a good partner understands that their partner does want to have sex at certain moments Edit: Why? We ask people to do things they don't want to all the time. To really illustrate this, we call them laws. There a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?fertility rate •Malaysia2.00 •Singapore1.14 •Hong Kong1.07 Holy shit, actual collapse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 10:38 PM |
| 12 | Women Denying Sex in an LTR is a Huge Double Standardyou don't need to be in any specific state to hug people or people to have sex they have to be horny, thats physical, you can't control it These are generalizations. You don't need to be in a specific state to have sex; I've (male) had sex with partners because they had a need, and I wasn't "in the mood". I believe it's core to being a partner, recognizing that their needs won't always line up on schedule with yours. Where things break down is when one partner believes their "mood" should dict… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?those men who feel that way don’t actually want to parent or feel any obligation to parent / child rear. This warrants a source. I cannot find any quantitative studies of men vs women walking away from marriages with children, and women initiate 70% of divorces. If we're strictly discussing pregnancies where a father walks away, we would need to measure for pregnancies where a woman "walks away" by getting an abortion or gives a child up for adoption, in addition to ones where she gives the chil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?More than likely, thinking has nothing to do with it. If you stuck a man and a woman on an island, they would prolly have a kid. Nature designed the species to self-replicate. It is specifically feminism who is "thinking" about the female procreation process. However, asserting that men cannot be thinking about their reproductive goals and the greater good, but that women can, is a sexist double standard. You only get to pick one, either both can, or both can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?we must reproduce and populate Isn't exactly a man thing, its a biology thing. Lesbian's adopt far more children than Gay men do. Among LGBTQ adults under 50 years old and living alone, or with a spouse or partner, 48% of women and 20% of men are raising a child (Gates 2013) Same-Sex Adoption Statistics | Adoption Makes Family So it's not at all that "men want families and women don't". In single sex relationships, women choose to worry about "legacy as our duty and for my pride!” far more than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?I think you'd need some familial pay studies before you could assume it would make more sense. I'm going to use made-up numbers, just to illustrate the concept. If family A is two earners, both earning 75k, both starting out with 30k of student loan debt. So household income 150k, debt 60k. We'd have to extrapolate the total household income for those two individuals, including the time spent before they were together, but after they graduated their educational platforms. Family B, 1 provider an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Also it’s more fufilling to have an actual career What do you base this statement on? Women have been talking about how satisfying having/raising children is for 10s of 1000s of years. The "children hold you down" narrative didn't come around till the 60's, and was a deliberate lie sold to women to increase the sales of the magazine Cosmo, in order to sell ad space. I can't link youtube videos in my current location, but take about 30 minutes and google "Sue Ellen Browder Cosmo" on youtube. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Social guidance seems to be at the root of women being steered into lower paying jobs. Nursing is not a low paying job. The average nursing pay is over 83k per year, about 166% of the median wage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Twice the workers in the workplace is twice the demand for everything This doesn't take into account that goods have gotten easier to produce, aka cheaper, and that 2x products is not 2x profits to individuals. I do agree that the money class has failed to maintain enough balance in the capitalism structure to keep it self-sustaining, but I also think these things have compounding effects on each other. Any governance structure needs to keep a wealth ratio (not saying equality) that keeps enou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?government programs have nothing to do with the birth rate. There is strong evidence that they do if the programs are aimed at decreasing perceived inequalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 06:35 PM |
| 4 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Lots of Americans are stupid because the bootstraps mentality The rise of "individualism" in relationships, not just with partners, but familial units, puts a lot of un-due stress on people in the family-development phase during the 20-40 years of life. Having children and requiring paid care is extremely burdening to the financial health of a partnership when earnings and investments are still small. I'll be curious if we see a cultural shift towards less of this in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 05:52 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Norway is 65% Oil/Gas exports, had the most single people per capita in the world last I read, and has a firmly aging demographic. It took china decades to see the devastation of the 1-child policy on the population growth. Is it bad today? No, could it be terrible in 15-20 years? Absolutely. All those social programs disappear based entirely on the price of oil/gas, and there won't be workers to supplement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?it is my theory that as these societies get to this un-recoverable figure, governments will be forced to intervene, penalize singledom and heavily subsidize family creation once again. catastrophic effect on their global economic power Is way bigger than most anyone not looking at numbers realizes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?It's important to remove china from most population growth models/observations, as the measurable impact of the one-child policy is gigantic, and basically unique to china. Their population is under huge stress because of that policy, and its just starting to really show its head now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?really deep into egalitarianism though I would be curious to dive in an get a comparison across the board of the actual laws to compare actual "equality". Simple observation might suggest that pursuing egalitarianism and social mobility causes a population to decline. An observation might also be that moving away from a "survival of the fittest" model towards "protecting the weak/mediocre" causes populations to decline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 04:15 PM |
| 3 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Russia doesn't have the Reserve currency or the "leader of the free world" titles. You should be comparing against other like-minded countries with powerful liberal democratic political parties. Notable that Spain and Italy are below us on the same scale, but also notable that those countries are both bankrupt, literally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?Also more opportunities and freedom for people from different social classes. Of interest is the note that this actually does not appear to be the case in the United States, which is ranked a low 27th place on the Global Social mobility index. Global Social Mobility Index - Wikipedia | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 05:51 PM |
| 2 | Independent Men/ Independent WonenMake's sense you moved around for the more financially dominant partners earnings growth. Pretty typical result. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Told Ltr I want to see other peopleThis doesn't read as redpill at all. Work on your issues. | /r/askTRP | 13/04/21 11:57 PM |
| 1 | I think men here overestimate how much sex means in a relationship and life, when other stressors are involvedPregnancy - some men don't feel comfortable having sex with their wives while pregnant, even though for some women this is when they are the horniest Work Family Personal stress These are all definitely time periods where good partner communication is necessary to facilitate a good relationship. Often times men have difficulty communicating during 'erection issues' because there is a stigma, self imposed and socially imposed, that men who "cannot perform" are "lesser men". This leaves women co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Independent Men/ Independent WonenI'm curious, what is the income difference between you and your partner who is it in favor of? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 09:38 PM |
| 2 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.OP didn't make gross generalizations, he said specifically IF Circumstance BECAUSE Circumstance EQUALS Results. He didn't say all women all the time, he said the particular women in this particular circumstance have no leg to complain about the situation they contributed to building. You simply see the word women and say NOT ALL WOMEN. Funny how it looks when the shoe is on the other foot, eh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 11:02 AM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.And this would be fine if the stories of equal or lesser earning men was "she loves me for who I am", but its not. He's too short. He's not ambitious enough (even though he earns about what I do) How come she keeps ignoring me while all of these guys she chases just pump-and-dump her, and she comes looking for a shoulder to cry on. Men's emotional needs are not respected by women on the whole. If women want to chase men's roles, than they need to be pursuing partners who want women's roles, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 10:58 AM |
| 2 | What are the typical reasons that lead someone to become a "misogynist"? What are the typical reasons that lead someone to become a "misandrist"?Echo chambers are reinforcing negative opinions and self masturbatory opinions at alarming rates and with more than alarming frequency. Reddit is a perfectly good example of this, with every subreddit being allowed to ban users not for genuinely harmful contribution, but because they have a narrative to push in that particular subreddit. If a redpiller or a blue piller want to engage in quality discussion in the other subreddit, than there is no functional purpose to ban them **other** than to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 12:01 AM |
| 2 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.And CMV is about challenging his views. If he didn't want us bringing up sex addiction, And you could have made a comment "well its possible that ... " but instead you made a gross generalization that when a man watches porn it's obviously because he has a porn addiction. It's about cumming and feeling super good about it. This is one very specific reason. I've definitely had sex with a partner for very different reasons, and I'm not a unique snowflake. You're just deliberately choosing to limit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 11:00 PM |
| 2 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.So we're talking about a very specific hypothetical situations and yet I can't ask hypothetical questions? Yes, op is asking about a specific set of circumstances; it's perfectly within reason for them to do so. You didn't ask a question, you said Apparently, porn addiction isnt a thing anymore. You made a statement. Could someone have an addiction? Obviously, but that wasn't the scope of the question, now was it? What if a serious problem came up and she doesn't have time to give two shits abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 10:39 PM |
| 7 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.Then why is this post based on the assumption that most women hate it when men watch porn? This post is based on women who don't want sex with their partners complaining that their partners find alternatives that don't require women's cooperation. Do all women hate it when men watch porn? No, of course not. Stop with your "all this" and "all that". This post specifically refers to one situation. No. That’s not how needs work. Needs are universal to all humans. No they're not, this is a garbage a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Why is a woman’s income to the household not given a lot of value ?well it can be split a little more on one side or the other then!! Ah, so no equality it is then. Turns out, being compatible might be better than being equal after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Why is a woman’s income to the household not given a lot of value ?you can't have that in pretty much any life path tbh You can if you're well off. but probably something to have fun with Have you ever stacked 3-5 cords of wood to heat your house? It's anything but fun. Studies have shown that women show generally more satisfaction derived from housework, and men from yardwork, however. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 08:10 PM |
| 7 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.Apparently, porn addiction isn't a thing anymore. Of course it is, but it isn't the vast majority. Stop being an alarmist, it's disingenuous to the actual function of the OP. The "all men are porn addicts" narrative is destructive to healthy gender dynamics. I mean, guys arent entitled to sex and sex isnt a need, so I couldnt care less. Sex is a need to men, you are wrong. Do you think that "comfort and validation" isn't a requirement for women? The fact that men derive it via physical express… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 08:00 PM |
| 4 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.Boredom? Fetishes? Depression? Medication/illness/injury? No. No. No. Possibly. Possibly. Possibly. On the "possibly" answers, those are things that might be hard to discuss with a partner, a feeling of shame for not being "man enough to perform", and mens sexuality is often tied to their sense of worth, so failure to perform (even for medical reasons) is failure to be a man. Otherwise, men aren't going to prefer porn to the real deal unless you're talking about a quick rubout, and that isn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Why is a woman’s income to the household not given a lot of value ?most men aren't top earners though Yes, and if the partners are bringing similar to the table, than I would expect accommodation on both sides, however this also means that these women should be out chopping wood and doing yardwork etc etc; you can't have your cake and eat it too, even when you're poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Why is a woman’s income to the household not given a lot of value ?This is also a large part of the problem. As you can see, engaging in meaningful discussion (on a completely different subreddit) is a bannable offense in "woke" subreddits. Note: I hadn't actually been in that subreddit to contribute in some time, which really just means that "woke" subreddits have no intent to discuss anything in an intellectually honest fashion. subreddit message via /r/wgtow[M] sent 7 minutes ago You have been permanently banned from participating in r/wgtow. You can still v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Why is a woman’s income to the household not given a lot of value ?Why should a person who spends a lot of time and energy to make themselves financially valuable want to do domestic work, or value a partner who needs that from them? If you notice, I specifically described that when both partners are financially disadvantaged (two lower earners), that they often DO share all the types of work (income, domestic, sexual) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Why is a woman’s income to the household not given a lot of value ?If a woman can manage to balance her household abilities along with maintaining a decent career, is that really not a plus for the man ? So, first thing I'd note there is that you specifically stated balance her household abilities ; as in she is still expected in some capacity to perform in a domestic fashion. As a lot of people see / narrate, there is a significant portion of the "working single" population that tend to live in less "ideal" cleanliness standards; this is often a functional r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Video Games Linked to Lower Depression Risk for Boys1 year ago you'd have called me me a liberal democrat. In my experience, the left is far more factual than the right in the political theatre. 1 year of factual data later, I'm firmly a pragmatic libertarian, devoid of a tribe. When I started my journey to discover the truth about gender dynamics in the world today, I expected (because it happens to me in political forums) that I would receive the same "we don't care about facts" attitude that I saw in conservative politics, in conservative gend… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 05:53 AM |
| 1 | What would a matriarchy be like?My sister disagrees and believes boys can be trained to act out their innate behaviors in a feminist structured way where they can best benefit women So your sister is a functioning incel. You should ask her how she'd feel about those gender terms being flipped. The only thing they both agree on is that a Matriarchal experiment should at least be attempted This sounds like the same thing everyone has ever said about using economic inflation "it'll be different this time" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 12:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.I mean, shaming is psycholgical torture so... Yea, they're afraid of shaming might they also want to avoid the discomfort? Absolutely. But the shame component was a major player, as the research material all says. As if the iron mask and its mouthpiece weren’t humiliating enough, the husband would then attach a leash to his iron masked wife and take her on a literal walk of shame around the town, encouraging passersby to insult or spit on her. Occasionally a bell would be affixed to the top of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 11:42 PM |
| 1 | The Woman Who Thinks Reducing the Male Population by 90 Percent Will Solve Everythingfull incel sperg mode Aannd this is how we know when the discussion turns moot. Ad hominem, I choose you! Yawn. feminst rag piece I linked a piece that points out that male hierarchies are vastly more common, since it was so important that you establish that wolves use a breeding pair, while being lazy enough not to bother mentioning that its a male-enforced breeding pair. Aka, Patriarchy. Moreover, I thought we were talking about sexual selection, not about whichever sex is dominant. Well c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:02 PM |
| 0 | The Woman Who Thinks Reducing the Male Population by 90 Percent Will Solve EverythingNah, by a breeding pair. What animals tell us about female leadership - BBC Worklife New research has found that of the more than 5,000 known species of mammals, just a handful are led by females. Alright, there. Male led hierarchies in 1000s of mammals. Pick whichever you like. Yes, natural pattern is for 1 in 4 males to reproduce in most mammalian species as that is the presumed equilibrium And yet leaves out 2 very important points, that males are vastly predominantly responsible for predator… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 03:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Good, so we've proven that shaming changes behavior. When you threaten someone, do they all run? No, some run, some fight, etc etc. Does shaming have the intended effect every single time? No of course not, that's silly. Nothing works every single time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 02:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Shame doesn't have to Who said it did? Who said it couldn't? Shame is not some singular magic thing. When your boyfriend calls you fat, do you feel ashamed? Shame can come a lot of different ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Honestly, I think you just came into this thread and were going to refuse any data anyways, there is no proof that any form of punishment works 100% of the time, except capital punishment. So with your logic, we should probably end all punishment. Expert says castration no cure for pedophilia (chron.com) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.If you're looking for a study that says "I Did issue a punishment of 4 shames to John smith, and he did repent" "I did issue a punishment of 3 shames to Jane doe, and she did not, but upon recieving 3 additional shames, she did as well" You're probably not going to find what you're demanding as proof. People have used shaming for 1000's of years, generally techniques that survive 1000's of years have some effectiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. If you're pointing out that rape victims weren't shamed, you're correct, but that doesn't stop them from feeling shame. So if shaming someone causes them to feel shame, then their behavior will likely be changed in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Not at all. Firstly, we know anecdotal evidence is bad. Secondly, there are a lot more amish that have stayed in the amish. On a bell shaped curve, there were always going to be some who quit and talked about these things. Many more choose to stay, so it apparently curbs the behavior they desire to curb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Also, you're attempting to state that fear of an inneffectual system causes people not to turn in a partner, but that is despair, not shame. Despair: Utter loss of hope Shame: a painful feeling of humiliation or distress caused by the consciousness of wrong or foolish behavior. So while depair may also cause people not to report, shame remains the largest reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Depends on what you're proving. You asked if shame changes behavior. Shame causes these victims not to come forward, their behavior is changed. I wasn't implying who engaged in the bad behavior, only that shamed changed a persons behavior, which is in fact the goal of shaming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.They do if you value their validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.If Amish church members break their vows of baptism by disobeying religious leaders or church regulations and refuse to confess their error, they will face excommunication. Based on several biblical scriptures, the church shuns ex-members to remind them of their disobedience in hopes of winning them back. Shunning is practiced in different ways by various Amish groups, but it typically involves rituals of shaming such as not eating at the same table with ex-members at weddings or other public ga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:27 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Functionally, society is just the people you interact with or who have direct impact over your life. The doorman is society, the policeman is society, your twitter people are society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Ok, lets look at it from the reverse. What is the most common reason that domestic abuse and rape victims don't come forward? Shame. edit: Sex offender registries are a public shaming tool. They've already "payed their debt"; so you layer on social embarrassment to keep them shamed, not exactly a legal restriction. They can go most places, the shame drives them away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.In most of the modern World, such as in the United States, judicial use of public humiliation punishment has largely fallen out of favor since the practice is now considered cruel and unusual punishment, and is officially outlawed by the United States Constitution. However, there does remain one exception: Sex Offender Registries. A convicted sex offender's placement on the sex offender registry is public via a state run website in all 50 states and those who find themselves listed, most of whom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:15 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Shaming is a community sport; it's not the random lady, its the whole building, the block, the town. Shaming often ends in exilement from the safety mechanisms of society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.Scold's bridle - Wikipedia A scold's bridle, sometimes called a witch's bridle, a brank's bridle, or simply branks, was an instrument of punishment, as a form of torture and public humiliation. This device was overwhelmingly used on female victims and functioned to silence the victim from speaking entirely. It caused extreme pain and also physiological trauma in order to scare and intimidate the wearer into submission. Shaming in its various forms is definitely effective. You live in a society t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.The shame in prostitution is either being a prostitute (Better find a good man, jenny, you don't want to end up like a whore) or shaming the man for getting caught publicly "Jim smith, what are you doing here with a wife and child at home!" If Jim is caught privately, he'll be called a scoundrel, but its the publicity that makes the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Shaming will never change people.You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of shaming. Shaming isn't for the target, shaming is a demonstration for everyone else. You don't need to change the targets mind, and in all likelihood, you radicalize them against you (even if they must be so privately), but the majority fall in line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?I think everyone wants that, but I think that we'll see significant social changes along the way were that to become a reality, just as we'll have to go through an enlightening phase if we invent robots to handle the menial labor jobs, and we suddenly have a vast amount more people than work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Video Games Linked to Lower Depression Risk for BoysInteresting points on gender multitasking though, sounds about right to me. Also, one thing to note we haven't measured, is if men are tactically better strategists or not. It seems perfectly possible that Men might have better strategies, where women might be better mechanical deployers once the strategy is set. Then again, maybe women will be better strategists, we don't have many historical examples to consider. Some folks think I'm a big fat sexist jerk, but really I just like to be un-biase… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?Lol, I'll have to trust you. But no, I didn't exclude them for any particular reason, nor do I see a problem with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?Men already fuck silicon porn-star molds of lower bodies. They'd likely prefer such a thing long term, but there would be a definite market for a life size piece of silicone and flesh that fucked you back and played pre-recorded moans, no question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?to be blunt, they're not common enough that I even thought of them. I didn't leave them out intentionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Video Games Linked to Lower Depression Risk for BoysI cannot see a reason for russia to care about eye candy, if anything, they're likely to have wanted to show that even russian women could defeat non-russian men, in a sort of dominance play. Obviously, it didn't work to their advantage. Counter-strike has had several Female e-sports teams (including the first I think?) and they have all been sub-par as well. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 12:22 PM |
| -1 | The Woman Who Thinks Reducing the Male Population by 90 Percent Will Solve EverythingNot exactly. This type of rhetoric has an actual logical conclusion, I'm not sure if 90% is the right number, but the author isn't necessarily wrong biologically, look at lions for instance, which are 2-3 lionesses per lion per pride. To be clear, I'm not saying she is right, either. Wolf packs are led by male wolves, so we see there can be either/or in nature, it's merely important to acknowledge they exist successfully. The Nazi's also weren't wrong (now everyone gets to hate me, that's ok), i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:17 PM |
| 5 | The Woman Who Thinks Reducing the Male Population by 90 Percent Will Solve EverythingThis is the type of rhetoric that causes a correction in the reverse, where society reverts to, as many feminists would call "draconian patriarchy", and society rejects hundreds of years of equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 10:05 AM |
| 19 | The Woman Who Thinks Reducing the Male Population by 90 Percent Will Solve EverythingThis is the type of rhetoric that causes a correction in the reverse, where society reverts to, as many feminists would call "draconian patriarchy", and society rejects hundreds of years of equality. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?Deterritorialization affects relationships just like anything else. French pedos (philosophers) called it before Calhoun. While I agree that they surmised a good birds eye view, I don't think they got nearly as detailed with regards to the individuals or within a society itself; a lot of that worked discussed more about nations and such and global consequences. Calhoun's experiment didn't just display a breakdown of culture, it displayed a detonation of self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 09:04 AM |
| 1 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?And how do you get a boat? There is a reason there are no water-only civilizations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:44 AM |
| 2 | Ladies build your perfect guyGlad to help. Do you mind sharing how that information affects your viewpoint on things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-chinese-scientist-broke-the-rules-to-create-the-first-gene-edited-babies-11557506697 People are curious creatures; we invent and try things just because we can, not because we should; and once "Insert random country did XYZ" no one else wants to be left behind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?Wage slave is metaphor, they aren't literally slaves. Or people are just very uncomfortable admitting that they're slaves. needing to find some sort of work in order to survive If a man lives in a hut that he built on some land that he isn't taxed for, and can hunt and grow what he wants, is not a free man? I realize this place doesn't exist, and that's the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:16 AM |
| 1 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?You can choose what work you do, which is a big change from having no choice other than picking cotton. So we're house slaves then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?We've already grown human embryos https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/researchers-re-create-key-human-embryo-stage-lab | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?too low value to get the real thing. Does this imply you also find masturbation to be degenerate? Do you find women's usage of dildos less degenerate than mens usages of fleshlights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?It's inevitable in these cases, but domestic appliances work well without it. Not really inevitable, but you sure do prefer the convenience(s); as you might a maid-robot or a chef-robot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?It’s just unnecessary. I already have an orgasm producer You had your hand before you had a tool, yet you still purchased the tool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 08:07 AM |
| 3 | Video Games Linked to Lower Depression Risk for Boysnon-competitive single player management games I think there is a strong possibility that they'd be better here, though studies on hand-eye coordination have shown men to have advantages. Were the games at a pace that eliminated that advantage, I think its very likely women would outclass men from the research I've seen on gender multitasking capabilities. They may not, generally, excel at twitch shooters As for the E-Sports teams, they seem to have been picked for eye-candy more than their abil… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?I think your question has multiple facets that have to be taken apart; Why would anyone want to bioengineer a person? To pick their traits Why would anyone want a slave? Free labor (we already have lots of this today) Why would bioengineer anything? Ask dolly; we do it just because we can, human nature. Is bioengineer beef grown in a lab different ethically than eating beef from a real cow? If a robot could be given the functional lab grown genitalia of one gender (male or female), but remained … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?sentient robot I think you've changed the narrative if you give something sentience. We masturbate with silicone and robotic tools already. Is it really not better, assuming it remains an insentient tool? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 07:53 AM |
| 4 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?Sexbots are degenerate. Why are they more degenerate than silicone or battery operated vibration engines? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 06:05 AM |
| 5 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?Second of all, you very clearly don't want a robot, you want a human who can't say no. Is there conceptually something wrong with wanting a tool that allows for such a device that facilitates this behavior without hurting a person? Do you have a perspective on the concept of pedophiles using such a tool to deal with their condition? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?It could be surmised that if we can grow embryos from skin cells, they might be given semi-functional women's reproductive anatomy, it's likely just a matter of time. Would this change your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?But I suspect they also will be connected to manufacturers/states clouds, so they would know everything about you, As opposed to your smart phones, smart appliances, webcams, internet histories, etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?Lifelike male sexbot? Um, I will just stick with my vibrator, thank you This question is going to push the limits. I acknowledge this, you're welcome not to answer. I think it provides useful insight in your preference for one tool over another. Are your preferred self pleasure tools realistic? Have you ever considered and come to a conclusion about whether realistic would be a positive or negative feature in a self care tool? Does the male robot make you uncomfortable because of its realism? Or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 05:58 AM |
| 2 | For unattractive men who are financially successful, and use money to attract women, what is your happiness level?There is no worth without a marketplace. This is a crazy nonsensical position. Human beings are directly valuable in comparison to what eats them, and what they eat. Men are valuable because they provide security, a service. Wealthy is a form of security. No one cares about a funny or pretty faced man who can't defend you when you need defending, and evolution kills the few who do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 05:34 AM |
| 1 | For unattractive men who are financially successful, and use money to attract women, what is your happiness level?to be able to spend more on clothing and to go out Both of these things are demonstrative of wealth. If you were poor, you couldn't afford nice shirts or nice "out" locations. I doubt you were grabbing 40s in your Hawaiian shirt at the 711 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?Here's a closer to home look at your produce. Farm workers are some of the most oppressed workers in the United States. In some cases, they are subject to physical and psychological abuse in the fields. In the worst and most extreme cases, they live in conditions constituting modern-day slavery. Modern-Day Slavery | NFWM | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?nor are they forcing you to choose that lifestyle. If I cannot eat without the use of a currency of force, within my species, then I am a slave. Slaves had a lack of choice, that's the point By your argument, slaves aren't slaves because they could choose not to participate in that lifestyle. This is just edgelord shit Actually, you should be arguing that this is argumentum ad absurdum, because it is. However, it is a useful tool in demonstrating that that without the actual freedom to walk … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 05:01 AM |
| 7 | Would any of you buy robots when they become indistinguishable from humans?I think the jetsons had one element right, that people will buy robots to reduce low wage labor even further. The invention of functional everyday robots will be a very critical evolutionary moment for the human race. I realize you were likely referring to "girlfriend bots", but I think the question is much bigger than that. Girlfriend bots, however, would cause a very interesting change in dynamics in the sexual market place, as would entirely lab-grown children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?You've stated that in order to live for free, others have to give to you. Freeganism advocates for stealing from waste, which at a minimum requires a store to be willing to give to you. In many places that is also illegal, and you would once again be subject to force. That isn't freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?Not to mention you have ways to change the situation if you don't like it. Can you give me an example of how you can change the situation if you don't want to have to work for anyone, and still have your basic life needs met? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:39 AM |
| 2 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?Do you realistically believe that the threat of force from the state is largely different than the threat of force from the plantation owner? A person cannot "walk away" from society. There is nowhere on earth that you can go live tax free to hunt like a caveman. You might be able to do so "under the radar", but that's it. If you walk into a forest to hunt a deer, you must pay a fee. If you walk into a grocery store to buy an apple, you must pay a fee. If you ask how to pay this fee, you're told… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:32 AM |
| 3 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?"slavery has existed since the dawn of humanity! We'll always be enslaving each other." Slavery is still a very large problem today, and economic slavery is a growing problem as well. People who can't afford to eat unless they work two dead end jobs that don't leave them time to pursue education or more gainful employment are effectively slaves. “Slaves are generally expected to sing as well as to work.” ― Frederick Douglass How many people on reddit have been fired for not being a cheerful work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:23 AM |
| 5 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?You ever heard of evolution? rape is down like 40% You can look at anything: crime rates This is more reflective of the modern efficiency of governance, than evolution. Africa, for example, still has significantly higher rates of violence in many places than it did historically. Africa also has a very inefficient gov't structure. We see the same in Mexico, where violence is actually on the rise. We have not really evolved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:13 AM |
| 0 | Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it?Why can’t men just accept that women are just attracted to whatever it is they are attracted to and there’s nothing we can do to change it? Conceptually, I don't think we can. I think the issue is that the marketplace has been regulated to such a degree that men cannot all use their own "whatever it is". For instance. Wealth is an observable, studiable preferencial trait. Historically, the rules around wealth were significantly more "survival of the fittest". Yet today, the market for wealth c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 04:08 AM |
| 2 | Growing up as a kid, were gender roles more enforced by your mom or your dad?I am a male, born and raised. My mother took on the masculine traits as a single mom. She attempted to give me masculine traits as well (If a boy hits you, you hit back so hard he never touches you again, but you never hit a girl ever). The school wanted to suspend me at 6yo when a school yard bully cornered me with his friend and I beat the shit out of them and kicked his face in. The school said retaliatory violence was not ok (I was the one approached and outnumbered 2-1, but I went straight … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Video Games Linked to Lower Depression Risk for Boysidk man ive met many of them They may well get there, but the stats are fairly clear on the gender representation across genres and measurable competency levels. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 03:21 AM |
| 7 | Video Games Linked to Lower Depression Risk for BoysOnly thing I'd disagree with is that it doesn't have to be violent games We don't disagree, it definitely does not have to be! BUT, between both genders it is far more common for men to play games that cater to their biological roots. edit: and because men have a harder time getting validation in the real world, there are more men playing games, so the content libraries are geared towards men. While there are Women playing call of duty, there are no men playing Barbie Dress Up Mansion. Role pl… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?Right. At an individual level and group level, you would call it dysfunctional, but at a gene level, you might actually call it functional because it's doing its best to survive a difficult procreation environment. Dawkins, right yet again. In some ways, we actually do this in society as well. It is not the most stable version of society (that would be the ants, who are very stable, and workers are not people). But if you think about it, we throw men at war, whoever survives was right. We th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:47 AM |
| 14 | Video Games Linked to Lower Depression Risk for BoysI believe this is likely linked to the fact that men tend to play more violent videogames, which develops the competitiveness and validation (for performance) that men literally need. While unfortunate that it doesn't develop their bodies, it at least develops their mind. Anecdotally, I have never met a comparatively competent woman gamer, and non-anecdotally the women only teams in competitive e-games have almost always done incredibly poorly. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/21 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Yes, there are two different worlds when it comes to casual sex (and everything else) . Inhibited and uninhibited. Most of you need to change (some of) your social circle.Oh, ha. I hadn't considered this account name. Fair play. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Yes, there are two different worlds when it comes to casual sex (and everything else) . Inhibited and uninhibited. Most of you need to change (some of) your social circle.? I don't down vote anything, pretty sure its a sidebar rule on this sub. "hmm... looks like you haven't downvoted anything yet" No sense downvoting in a discussion environment on reddit, I don't want anyone's opinions hidden. It's incredibly important that people who don't agree with me get to be heard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:43 AM |
| 3 | Ladies build your perfect guyI have a childhood friend with a PHD in optical sciences, who does not know how to change a flat tire on a car. It's flabbergasting to me. The complete lack of practical knowledge taught to men these day is mind boggling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:33 AM |
| 4 | Ladies build your perfect guyYour ex doing you wrong doesn’t change what you like physically though He became my ideal physically. There are some interesting studies showing that women are more likely than men to develop strong positive feelings for their captors in long-term kidnap/hostage situations. The data suggests that women are more likely to "mold" themselves to their partners than men are, and in one study I read about suggested that this was an evolutionarily developed trait, that women captured in village raids… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Ladies build your perfect guywhat if the guy just thinks it’s not economically sound lol It is definitely not economically sound. However neither is a populist uprising because people are starving. UBI is a bad solution to a worse problem that we've created for outselves. It is not at all sustainable, everywhere that has ever implemented it has economically failed catastrophically. The French have been masters at this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:22 AM |
| 2 | Yes, there are two different worlds when it comes to casual sex (and everything else) . Inhibited and uninhibited. Most of you need to change (some of) your social circle.I’m not sure why guys are so anti. I never understood this either. "I'm turned on by a woman's fragrances, so she must be by mine" seems like the most obvious logic. I had a theory that Victoria's secret was the best place to buy cologne as a kid, because it was made/vetted by the types of women I'd want to be involved with, and who were probably better experts at it than me. It was a very successful plan, and I just mimicked that type of scent with variances going forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | My dad always says if a guy is single at 35+, there usually a reason, and it’s usually baggage. How true is this statement?35 is also roughtly the timeframe that the average man in the United States starts getting his family-quality salary. If you'd like a lifestyle with a 6-figure male partner, many sources will also say this is the "sweet spot age" for that to start happening. I for instance, at 35 am looking for women around ages 25-30/31 who want to start a family, but I don't want the "comes with 2 kids" already or "recently divorced" or "total trainwreck" that a lot of single women seem to be in their 30s. edi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?Interesting way of putting it. I'll have to think about that. If you think about it, evolution is just a large pile of binary outcomes "survive, don't survive" thrown at the wall of random environmental problems. Whatever survives was the correct mutation. I'm at the point of being ready to settle down, and if I don't, it would be like "what was it all for"? I didn't advance in my career for myself. I think a lot more men are getting to this point, and even some career women as well. There a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?That list came across to me as little more than an "if I were king" scenario. 100% Agree. As OP stated in his other reply to me, it's hard to trust government to "compromise" their way through this process effectively and competently. I was not coming at this from the "how is the most cooperative and nicest way", I was coming at the process "if this were an ant farm, what would I do to fix it" sorta way. I doubt even the People's Republic of China could manage to accomplish half of the points … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:25 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?Cool. Thanks for sharing your story. I think it empowers when they can see stories of 'non-ultra-modern-ideals' success stories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 03:59 PM |
| 1 | What would a matriarchy be like?I am, however, joking about incel farms I realize. I commented that popular culture has narrated that these sorts of jokes are now "toxic". The point is to bring awareness to the bias that "its ok for women to joke about men" but not "its ok for men to joke about women". It was your opportunity to learn, but instead you've chosen to double down. Interesting because "doubling down" on sexist jokes is something men are accused of doing. Why are your panties in a bunch? Fascinating. I pointed out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 02:25 PM |
| 2 | What would a matriarchy be like?Does Calling It a Joke Make Sexism More Acceptable? | Psychology Today ‘Bois Locker Room Talk’ is not normal or acceptable (oxfamindia.org) Boys locker room: A combination of bigotry and internalised misogyny (indiatimes.com) The consequences of "locker room talk" | The McGill Tribune The 'Bois Locker room' and the perpetuation of patriarchy | We Are Restless I didn't write the narrative, I just belong to the gender that got roasted for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 12:39 PM |
| 2 | What would a matriarchy be like?This is really not the thread to make that point on So now its ok to tell people when, where, and how to protest? Another double standard. Is that like double² standard? or double standard² ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 12:22 PM |
| 6 | What would a matriarchy be like?Not at all, I don't mind your joke at all, personally. I also don't mind locker room jokes, but those are now offensive, apparently. If anything, I hope people reading this little back and forth recognize that this humor exists on all the sides, and that getting offended over locker room jokes is dumb, and should be shunned. If not, lets be "equality" about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 12:08 PM |
| 4 | What would a matriarchy be like?This sounds an awful lot like a double standard that is OK because you want it to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:39 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?Harlow's pit of despair Hey, thanks for mentioning this, I wasn't aware of this experiment, fascinating stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?Ah, thanks. I felt like it was a topic that couldn't be explored in 144 characters. I hope you'll go back and ready the study I linked and compare it to your comparison of the Seldon plan et al. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?I'm aware of what you're saying, but I'm not sure how to reply, to be frank. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:08 AM |
| 3 | What would a matriarchy be like?Its funny because you agree with it? Doesn't that make locker room "women are only good for sex and sandwiches" jokes funny? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 11:02 AM |
| 3 | A middle eastern perspectiveThis is a fallacy. The rise of living alone: how one-person households are becoming increasingly common around the world - Our World in Data In countries such as Norway and Sweden, single-person households were rare a century ago, but today they account for nearly half of all households. In some cities they are already the majority. | /r/MGTOW | 09/04/21 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.Its not the strangers that are killing women the most. Femicide: Women are most likely to be killed by their partner or ex - BBC News | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 09:32 AM |
| 4 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?Restructuring and limitation of social media. Define the width of anyone 's particular network, in order to curb the effects of echo chambers and vanity mirrors. While subreddits might have 100K, facebook, twitter, insta, whatever host millions upon millions. Limit each account to something much smaller, like 100 people. Restructure internet dating. Remove the "buffet" structure and build a match-maker structure; whether it's run by people or by algorithms. People would implement their wants and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 09:08 AM |
| 4 | Thoughts on behavioral sink?Ok, so I am wicked excited you posted about Calhoun's experiment; I've known about the "preeners" for years, and it was a fascinating study. Microsoft Word - front titles.doc (lse.ac.uk) This is the pure non-wiki 45 page document detailing the theories, methods, and results. I'll try to stay on track, please forgive me if I geek out a bit. For starters, I think Calhoun's most important discovery, not listed in the paper, is the discovery of the origin and functional purpose of religion. Big st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 09:08 AM |
| 3 | What would a matriarchy be like?I agree, but popular narrative does not. I would prefer we could go back to real stand-up, very offensive, very funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 07:12 AM |
| 4 | What would a matriarchy be like?I actually don't personally care, but the narrative is that mens lockeroom jokes are demeaning and objectify women, where yhis post does the same towards men, and in a literal "make men slaves", as opposed to an off color remark. Good for goose, good for gander and all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 07:11 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?go somewhere else Just to be clear, this is not a compromise. strive to become more attractive to expand options This is just "collect more money to demonstrate resources" also not a compromise. I'll caveat that with unless you're referring to working out to be in good physical shape, which even an ugly or boring person can do, however if a Party person just provides the labor of "here I am" and the provider provides the "heres my 14 years of labor AND my labor in the gym", I would hardly call… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?It is what you want. Glad you're the arbiter of what people want. Can’t say I desire any world where I don’t like my life partner. Not at all suggested or implied, but ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 05:31 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?Why is acknowledging the structure of who / how each part benefits someone a "plan that I want"? I could care less about how the world might be; because I'm not in that world. There are plenty of examples in nature where the female of the species (Lantern Fish, many species of sharks, Ants, Bass fish, etc etc) exist in matriarchs and the women have physically dominant roles, ours has just never been one. If you have some information other than "bitter wokeism", I'm actually very interested to he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 05:25 AM |
| 2 | What would a matriarchy be like?Yes, and were advertised to kill men at distance, not someone who grabs you off the street or from within the confines of a house/rooms. You'll get no argument from me that if you walk around with your gun out, finger ready, you'll be more defended, but that isn't a realistic expectation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?The world you want only exists if you remove women’s ability to provide for herself. And create a world where women experience harsh consequences for being single. It has nothing to do with "want". The social safety net drastically benefits women as compared to men. 7 in 10 homeless are men, they're already well aware of what the harsh consequences for them being single are. If you removed all social payments, all social programs, and the government was a libertarian paradise of "eat what you ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 05:15 AM |
| 1 | What would a matriarchy be like?Oh, I just linked it because it was relevant and interesting, not because it was going to be on the shelf tomorrow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 05:10 AM |
| 2 | What would a matriarchy be like?If I was a person who was going to aggress a woman, by the time she realized she needed to pull her gun it would be very likely to be too late. I'm not saying they shouldn't carry, but as someone who has been through more than one "fight or flight" moment, everyone reacts differently when the stress is real and in your face. Guns are no some great equalizer as you suggest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?the 30 yo provider is going to have to compromise somewhere and/or stop being bitter Define compromise as you see it here please. women who maybe aren’t shallowly thinking about his provider capabilities If a person stops dating non-provider types because they don't make good life partners, they are by definition thinking about their new partners provider capabilities. If a person has children at 24 with some hot mess garbage partner, and wants to stay with them forever, no one has any issues … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 05:03 AM |
| 1 | What would a matriarchy be like?Artificial wombs are not feasible in any way, in the foreseeable future. Scientists Created an Artificial Early Embryo From Human Skin Cells (singularityhub.com) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 04:47 AM |
| 2 | What would a matriarchy be like?Either/or. Assume pure equality in the scenario. I think the majority of men are going to be significantly more aware of the function of the gun, and how to use it. Not to mention the 21 Foot Rule; Essentially, it says that when an assailant wielding a knife is closing in, they will cover 21 feet in the time it takes you to draw and fire your gun. That woman doesn't stand a chance in hell after 1000 re-dos. Will their be a few women who get the win? Absolutely, that's just standard distribution;… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 04:41 AM |
| 1 | What would a matriarchy be like?Serious question. Put a man and a woman, ordinary, no training, no expertise, 5/10 average people, both in a room. Give them each a gun. Who do you think wins if you repeat this experiment 100, 1000, 10,000 times? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 04:30 AM |
| 7 | What would a matriarchy be like?Male violence is so pervasive I don’t see any way around that particular thorn —- if there are men around, they’re going to dominate merely by the fact that they are willing to destroy, and we’re going to need other men to stop them. I think this is an incredibly important perspective, men built the world with violence. It's part of the gender. Evolution is a simple thing, the weak die, the strong survive. I also don't see it as a pervasive issue (we are currently in the safest time period for m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 04:27 AM |
| 11 | What would a matriarchy be like?I'll just point out that people wouldn't consider it funny if men joked about putting women in breeder farms until you needed a maid. I understand you're joking, but it is very common to be offended at "mens locker room jokes", and this is no different. edit: Specifically, if this isn't the behavior wanted from men, it seems folly to participate in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 03:50 AM |
| 2 | Correlation on the effect of modern feminism gone wild.OP, you should stick quantity of marriages next to your divorce rates; divorces often go down in societies that aren't marrying, because more people who ARE getting married will be more committed to the process; without correlating those data sets, divorce rate isn't very telling. edit: and there is a lot of more modern suicide rates data than 2006, fyi. | /r/MGTOW | 09/04/21 03:47 AM |
| 3 | Correlation on the effect of modern feminism gone wild.The civil rights movements, the womens liberation movement, and the sexual liberation movement. Parts 2/3 merged into modern feminism with the rowe vs wade situation and modern birth control. This was all over the 60s/70s. | /r/MGTOW | 09/04/21 03:46 AM |
| 0 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?Well, extra people in the workforce and living an "instagram" life certainly contributes to that. There are other factors as well (such as the modern starting home to be significantly larger nowadays), but often what I view is that modern people also aren't willing to make the same realistic sacrifices to get ahead that older generations were (1 car for two people, cooking at home, couponing, mending clothes, etc etc etc), and why would you if you can date the party at 24, and marry the bank at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 03:38 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?I guess that would depend on what you mean by stronger contractual arrangement? What kind of punitive measures are we talking about here? I can't speak to the future, but for example I am a believer that the (traditionally) man should get raked over the coals in a divorce, if he is leaving his commitments behind voluntarily, or committed a worthy offense to the partnership, but I also believe people are too quick to abandon partners because they're upset about something. On the other hand, I bel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 03:18 AM |
| 3 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?Your snide-ness is unnecessary, you might note that I stated that people could go their own way. It doesn't change the fact that if you ask a million people how life normally goes, "going your own way" will be a stark minority. I also think you do stay-at-home partners a big disservice, and feminism a big disservice, by stating that stay at home partners are brainless jellyfish. I'm sure you've experienced your share of "are you sure thats really what you want dearie, don't you want a good man?"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?This is a common effect of birth control and women pushing for men's levels of pay in the workforce (note I didn't say men's level of work). Data shows that women are getting married much later, if at all (marriage rates are way down in 1st world countries). While today the 20s can be spent on people who don't provide security and stability (because you don't "need" it yet), the 30's tends to settle down more, and you realize you'd rather wake up with someone who can afford the bills. Previously… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 03:04 AM |
| -2 | Do you feel pressure from society/family/friends to give "good guys" a chance?People just really want women to have babies. Isn't this kinda the obvious thing when a) your gender is the only one capable and b) reproduction is a necessary process for society? Yes, obviously some can walk away, but it seems strange to me that people 'expecting the norm' makes you averse to the norm; it's the norm for a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 02:54 AM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?woman outside the church who sees a free meal ticket As someone who has been both in and out of the church, do you believe there should be a stronger contractual arrangement, backed by real punitive effects in order to strongly disincentivize someone from variations of this type of abuse? Do you take issue with a woman who wants a free meal ticket, but agrees to participate in the manner(s) expected, regardless of her own attraction/feelings for her partner, and who stays committed? Essentially … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 02:40 AM |
| 0 | Women and “Mission”I think it would be beneficial if you elaborated on what type of mission you're referring to. Most traditionally oriented men will support a SAHW's mission, for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 02:33 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?Wicked interesting. Thanks for nerding out with me! ( I break down stock market charts going back a 100 years for fun to look for stuff soo... totally dig data) oyster farmer who was interested in philosophical questions of the self. This sounds like a badass dude to be friends with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 01:51 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?potentially taken advantage of by unscrupulous women (and vice versa). Would you mind elaborating? I actually share a lot of those values, but have a personal version of religion that is rather unique, certainly not LDS, lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 01:47 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?It suggests that a partner with a single previous LTR, spanning from the highschool to adult years, would be more likely to have a harder time with the social maneuvering and expectations that normal adults have with each other. Regardless of ncount, dating teaches you to deal with various people differently, building a mental toolbox of sorts. Someone with an empty tool box might have a difficult time being a good partner, because they've only ever had to mold themselves for one person. I'd als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 01:41 AM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?As a non-religious person do you think the values that religion shaped your partner into might have an overall positive influence on the dating marketplace as a whole, if more of those values returned? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 01:32 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?repulsed by it for numerous reasons Would you be willing to elaborate? It seems like this type of information is something that lots of folks would benefit from understanding your perspective, given that low n-count is often "preferred" by men from their women partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 01:27 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?r/truerateme I didn't know about this place. Thanks for adding it to my research pile of subreddits "holy fuck this chick is fucking crazy" I think this would have likely been the thought as well, though only due to the nature of modern courtship. Once upon a time a suitor had to apply with the father figure for permission to court, and he would have had his own list of expectations. While they aren't identical in data sets, I think the underlying principles are the same; weed out incompatibilit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 01:20 AM |
| 3 | 21 F single - looking for ways to optimize my lifeYou may also find fasting is of some interested to you, it can be an excellent mental exercise and there is a good chance would help clear up your oily skin or at least help you narrow down the responsible foods, if any. /r/fasting has a lot of great information about the various types of fasting, but it is also an easy topic to research and try various methods. I've lost ~15lbs (hooray corona weight!) in the last 2 weeks by applying fasting principles/practices. I'll be pre-corona weight by end… | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/04/21 12:39 AM |
| 5 | Which pill explains what I noticed on datingoverthirty?I always like to see this on people making average wages. Like, how often are you traveling overseas on 50k? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?This is super interesting, I'm pretty impressed with your spreadsheet approach; you said 243 first dates. This is a first date every 3 days. I have to assume you were scheduling 2-3-4 dates ahead. Did dates 2,3,4 of any of these affect how you scheduled other 1st dates? Meaning, did you "dive deeper" and dedicate more time/attention if a first date was promising? Or was it more important to "keep the train running" to you? If you were being objective (as personal bias allows), how would you rate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/21 12:04 AM |
| 4 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?? I'm in a million pill-esque threads right now. I was asking these folks because they were here. High N-count women are all over other threads talking about their experiences and preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 04:07 PM |
| 5 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?Fair enough, thanks for elaborating. Good to have views from the other side too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 04:02 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?Thanks for sharing! Good to see some from the other side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 03:46 PM |
| 4 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?So your low ncount is merely a product of circumstance then. Do you feel that changes your overall partner evaluation because many would consider your own ncount to be admirable/desirable? Thanks for replying! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 03:40 PM |
| 5 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?I guess what I meant was, why do you have these values? Are they just personal? Religious? Upbringing? etc. Thanks for replying! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 03:37 PM |
| 2 | Bitter truth...some women change their inborn looks to deceive for hookup, as with heavy makeupThese are interesting points, that I have certainly never considered. Is this a heavy enough concern that you would give up reproduction with a woman that you were concerned about this with? Perhaps someone attractive, but whose features you were concerned would like up awkwardly with your own? | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/21 03:36 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?Does this mean you hold yourself to the same standard? Why do you hold this viewpoint? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 03:30 PM |
| 7 | [Q4W] Do you dislike men with too few previous partners, similar to how some men dislike women with too many?Would you be willing to share your approximate age and how you vet ncount? Curious as their haven't been many "low count supporters" in the ladysphere in my time in the various pill-esque subreddits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 03:29 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.Good luck with what? You're the one advocating that people who can't give consent are good people to try and sleep with, according to the law. I think the law is bullshit, but it won't stop me from going to jail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 01:30 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.https://utulsa.edu/sexual-violence-prevention-education/alcohol-consent/#:~:text=An%20intoxicated%20person%20cannot%20give,or%20any%20other%20nonverbal%20cues. Drugs and alcohol impact decision-making and blur consent. When drugs and alcohol are involved, clear consent cannot be obtained. An intoxicated person cannot give consent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Bitter truth...some women change their inborn looks to deceive for hookup, as with heavy makeupOh, I'm sure I'd be curious, in the same way I'd be curious how a new recipe would turn out, or how many golf balls will be knocked into my yard tomorrow. I would never look at a woman and say "mmm, I don't think our kids will be pretty enough". The idea that I would place value on the absolutely random chance of what someone might look like when they're born is bonkers to me. But as an curious ponderance? Absolutely. | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/21 10:15 AM |
| -1 | Bitter truth...some women change their inborn looks to deceive for hookup, as with heavy makeupAlso, stop simping. People chase attractive people subconsciously to have attractive kids. It’s basic evolution. I guess you could argue some sort of subconscious biology here, but I've never ever heard any man say this in reference to a woman. I've heard it once via a woman in reference to a man. Hardly simping, lol. | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/21 05:45 AM |
| 3 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.You're still saying that if men want hookups, they need to rape people. I understand that your view of the party/social culture has been doing it this way forever (and I've participated as well), but into today's legal climate, you're advocating rape. social lubricants within reason is not a thing that a fellow participant can judge according to the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Bagging 8/10+ girls on tinder?Tinder wasn't a thing when I was 18-19, so I'll let someone closer that age bracket take the wheel on that question, as I don't want to waste your time. | /r/askTRP | 08/04/21 04:46 AM |
| 3 | Bagging 8/10+ girls on tinder?8/9/10s are not likely going to be on tinder, or if they are, they'll be looking for very specific things. This is not be gender specific (meaning both male and female 8/9/10s). You are likely not the things they're looking for. Tinder top is pretty much average and average+ (5/6). Correct usage of makeup can certainly help a 6 be a temporary 7, but you're still waking up next to a 6. | /r/askTRP | 08/04/21 04:36 AM |
| 1 | If the redpill is meant to be an unbiased look at the sexual strategies of men and women, why is there so much moralizing and pathologizing of female sexuality?People lie, they change their minds, they don't know how they'll respond until faced with a situation, circumstances change etc Edit: I wanted to address this, as I think its important. I think it would be very reasonable to legally require a potential father to commit/not commit within some time frame after the discovery of the pregnancy. If he changed his mind after sex, but before he signed, well that would be no different than a woman doing the same, and we've already agreed we wouldn't forc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 04:23 AM |
| 3 | Bitter truth...some women change their inborn looks to deceive for hookup, as with heavy makeupIt wouldn't be a thing I would think about, I've never once wondered "should I sleep with this woman, what would our children look like?" | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/21 03:29 AM |
| 7 | Bitter truth...some women change their inborn looks to deceive for hookup, as with heavy makeupThis seems like a nothingburger. If he's happy with her looks, why does he care about having an ugly baby? Genetics are so awkwardly random that ugly people have good looking kids and vice versa all the time. | /r/MGTOW | 08/04/21 03:18 AM |
| 3 | The patriarchy exists and that's perfectly okayI think the origin of "The Patriarchy" is specifically the genetic difference between men and women. If a man wants a woman, she has no choice but to rely on other men to refute this claim. If a society is invaded by (or invades) another society, it is men who defend (or assault) it. Women are not capable of resisting physical force effectively. While there are a few instances of Women historically participating with men (Shield Maidens come to mind), they were all encapsulated in a male fightin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 02:45 AM |
| -1 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.Is this really less reasonable (from an objective standpoint) than a woman who expects the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 12:18 AM |
| 2 | Casual sex happens most in casual, playful, and fun environs.The environment and/or substances do 90% of the heavy lifting here. OR I was in a tipsy If a man sleeps with a woman who is using "substances", she has the legal ability to pursue him for rape. I was literally banned from /r/twoxchromosomes for suggesting that someone had personal responsibility for the substances they took and the consensual actions that followed them. Telling men to pursue environments with substance usage involved puts them in a poor legal situation. It is very reasonable tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 12:12 AM |
| 1 | If the redpill is meant to be an unbiased look at the sexual strategies of men and women, why is there so much moralizing and pathologizing of female sexuality?It's easy to talk about vetting suitors like it's a simple matter of a checklist. It's not. I didn't suggest it was easy at all. Once upon a time people sat down and had conversations about these things. I ask people I'm talking to where they see their ideal relationship, kids, work life, etc. Why? Because I don't want my time wasted. The solution is for men not to view BC as the responsibility of the woman as soon as they begin a relationship There aren't any male birth controls on the market u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 11:48 PM |
| 0 | If the redpill is meant to be an unbiased look at the sexual strategies of men and women, why is there so much moralizing and pathologizing of female sexuality?This takes agency away from women. Women have the ability to vet a suitor. Women have the ability to demand commitment before risking pregnancy. Women choose to keep kids in single parent situations, period. Choice has cost. If you're tired of men who don't yet want fatherhood, get a dildo, or do your homework. If women can abort, men are just as entitled to. You want to protest women being the ones to carry, take it up with the man upstairs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 07:01 PM |
| 0 | How Can I Help?That's a pretty lazy way to try and claim a statement has less accuracy. "It has less value but I can't explain why". It does offer stereotypes, but being stereotypes doesn't make them untrue or less valuable observations. It does not offer prejudices, because prejudice implies that the comment was made with a lack of reason (obviously not true) or experience (of which I have). So no, it is not prejudiced. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/21 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Do you think social media, smartphones and online dating has changed the dating landscape that much, or are the effects of this overstated?Thats neat, I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 07:58 AM |
| 0 | Why do (some) women sleep with one guy the day they meet , but waits until commitment with another?Men did this to themselves. They don't reward women who sleep with them on the first date with escalated treatment, better courtship, or more investment. No they didn't, women opened up the market in the first place. It used to be that the courtship phase was much longer, and you knew betty boop wasn't running around with "fun guys" from tinder, so you knew there was something that might be loyalty at the end. In exchange, Women had significantly more time to vet potential suitors. You describ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 04:52 AM |
| 12 | New Utah law requires fathers to pay 90 percent of pregnancy costsWas this supposed to say 50%? I don't see where 90% is referenced. In cases where a child’s paternity is disputed, the father won’t need to pay until the paternity is established. Fathers will also not be liable to pay for abortions carried out without their consent, except in cases of rape or when the mother’s life is endangered. This is actually a good thing for Men's rights, though it lacks one piece of wording, which is that fathers shouldn't be responsible for costs of children they wish to… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/21 04:28 AM |
| 0 | I so shocked and saddened by what TRP did to meWhen you invest, a common early mistake is "chasing". You buy an investment, then it doesn't go your way, so you sell. Now with less, you find the next big thing! You buy into it emotionally, rather than logically, and once again find yourself buying a high point, and selling when it goes down. You repeat this process until you realize that you need to step back and start fresh, not react. Most folks who come to exredpill from TRP are just people who weren't succeeding in TRP. They didn't succee… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/04/21 04:23 AM |
| 46 | She doesn’t want solutions to her problems, just a shoulder to cry onWomen are emotional thinkers. Men are logical thinkers. Logically, problems can be solved. Emotionally, feelings can be soothed. | /r/askTRP | 07/04/21 04:13 AM |
| 5 | Why do (some) men think women are “obligated” to sleep with them?If a woman sleeps with a man without a commitment (no-strings), then moves on to another man and doesn’t sleep with him until they are committed, some men feel upset by this. Like because a person does something with someone before, they automatically owe you the same thing? Yes she does, as she has already established the price in the previous relationship: A relationship with no commitment warrants sex. Once upon a time, if a man wanted to sleep with a woman, he had to commit to her, and she t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 03:55 AM |
| 1 | A girl I’ve been seeing for 9 months wants to discuss ‘Where things are going’. Should I be prepared to walk away?If she wants to LTR you, ask her to define what that means to her. Then tell her what it means to you. Tell her what your requirements are from her. (No orbiters, no without-you 3am clubnights, whatever) Tell her that your boundaries are not "flexible". Respect them or be demoted. If she is enthusiastic, great. If she hesitantly accepts, expect to be tested. If she doesn't accept, problem solved. | /r/askTRP | 07/04/21 03:17 AM |
| 2 | Is frame really everything?Frame is nothing more than picking your own personal boundaries and enforcing them. Yes, personal boundaries are important, for anyone. | /r/askTRP | 07/04/21 03:00 AM |
| 2 | Do girls not realize that they're judged based on their looks rather than their achievements?This is the equivalent of a seller telling the buyer what they're willing to sell for, regardless of market value. If men don't buy cars base on color, than its a bad idea to advertise color. The problem is, women DO buy cars based on color, so they're assuming men do as well. Failure to recognize the nature of the market. | /r/askTRP | 07/04/21 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Might ghost this girl I’m meant to be meeting. Any advice appreciatedThis is stupid; you're welcome to change your mind at any moment; remember, we've determined that if you're told to stop mid-stroke, you have to stop. We can now change minds with no respect for commitments, that's the rules of the road now. You should still text her and tell her you're not feeling it anymore, because you shouldn't act shitty and ghost people. | /r/askTRP | 07/04/21 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Very stange interactionsIt has nothing to do with "steep" or "shallow"; it has to do with enforcement; you're still not understanding TRP. What TRP is, at its core, is the adaptation to the modern market for men. Where previously, a physical relationship with a woman was a prize to be earned by demonstrating to her and her family that you could provide for her, now it is gatekept first by "swipeable" observations. With people earning their own money, there is also no reason that men should continue to pay for dates, fo… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/04/21 02:01 AM |
| -1 | Very stange interactionsHonestly, I dug your post out of your history, and its pretty cringe, even if there are some truthful elements to it. You need to read TRP's philosophies, because you clearly don't understand the reaction you got. TRP refers to "holding frame" which is really just a metaphor for having personal boundaries. Your story is rife with you being a provider with no boundaries, upset that he is not getting equal to what he gives. Well of course you're not getting anything, you're not demanding anything … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/04/21 01:27 AM |
| 6 | Why does the red pill receive so much hate on PPD?No Derailing or Gaslighting About "Both Sides" This sub is about optimizing the female dating experience. We don’t want to hear “both sides,” because that tends to end up in only favoring the male perspective. If you hear both sides, it tends to favor men. The function of propaganda is . . . not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 01:15 AM |
| 9 | Why does the red pill receive so much hate on PPD?" it was absolutely wrong to make the enemy ridiculous ... It was absolutely wrong because actual contact with an enemy soldier was bound to arouse an entirely different conviction, and the results were devastating; for now the German soldier, under the direct impression of the enemy's resistance, felt himself swindled by his propaganda service. His desire to fight, or even to stand film, was not strengthened, but the opposite occurred. His courage flagged. "- Mein Kampf, 1924; How to use propag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 01:11 AM |
| 21 | Help. I am worried I fucked up big time. I married at 22. We are 2 years in he’s 27 from Mexico and hates being the breadwinner & doesn’t want to provide It seems likemy expectation going in was that he was wanting to support me he wants an equal, he Wants me to support him too have a partner he can rely on financially he did not say upfront you’re spoiled fucking contribute It sounds like their was a gross miscommunication during the courtship process. he is genuinely getting violent and throwing things in our apartment If there is violence that was unexpected and unnegotiated, it is time to leave. There are a lot of people in the world who want a domesticat… | /r/RedPillWomen | 07/04/21 01:02 AM |
| -4 | How Can I Help?Women's power specifically lay with their emotional intuition and ability to manipulate it as a tool, for good OR bad. Like any tool, in it's own right, it is not good or bad, but how you use it. The most good a woman can do is to assist (or even run) the organization of pro-men social movements. Why would a woman run this? Men are generally less capable of this by design. This doesn't mean host a cookie bake at church, this means get other like minded women (and men) and actually show up some… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/21 12:47 AM |
| 13 | Why does everyone hate r/MensRights?The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right it has set out to argue. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favours the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness. Its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly. -Mein Kampf, 1924. The function of femnism is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different genders, but… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/21 11:36 PM |
| 1 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.You're really reaching with this. Why would I adore them until they're used up? If a TRP gets a TRAD LTR/Wife who takes care of their shit and lets them chase money for the both of them, they'll grow old and "used up" together. Traditional relationships have less chance of divorce, not more. Now you're just making up stories to fit a narrative that isn't real. When my eventual wife gets old, I will celebrate the shit out of the cooking skills she picks up along the way. The only thing "used up" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 04:15 PM |
| 78 | How am I going to take care of these babies?Haha, this is actually fucking hilarious. Congrats to you on the bitcoin. | /r/MGTOW | 06/04/21 04:01 PM |
| 2 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.Yeah we disagree on that, the shallow nature of those apps makes you feel like hella shit if you can't pull. We don't disagree on this, but it is still tantamount to telling a fisherman not to fish in the pond with the most fish. My gf wants kids and a career, which is very possible. This was always possible; harder, but possible. The issue is that if you make "harder" easier, than you de-value those who don't get it adjusted for them. If one person has a collectable, its valuable; if everyone h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 04:00 PM |
| 0 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.Not a reliable source, pew research has a low response rate. Any other source? According to Custodial Mothers and Fathers and Their Child Support: 2015, a report released by the U.S Census Bureau every two years, there are approximately 13.6 million single parents in the United States today, and those parents are responsible for raising 22.4 million children. This number represents approximately 27% of children under 21 in the U.S. today. The Single Parent Statistics Based on Census Data (verywe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 03:44 PM |
| 3 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.Imagine my shock. Men hate simps but they LOVE pick me girls Men don't really hate simps, they pity them. It's watching someone in pain chase something they're never going to get, from a person who is never going to be honest enough to let them go because they like getting the extra attention. If you're looking for male emotional enlightenment on TRP, you'd be better off watching Kong vs Godzilla. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 02:19 PM |
| 4 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.Then why do I see men solely talk about Tinder on this subreddit? You may not use them differently, but Okcupid and Match are definitely different from Okcupid. Tinder is just a generic name for OLD, and every app is now "swiping". No. Men back then died much much quicker. And you know what you do if you think you might die soon? Fuck more. Men are acting the same. And 1 in 4 Married mother out-earns her husband, up from 2% in the 60s. Your stat doesn't refute mine? As women have made more money… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 02:14 PM |
| 3 | How to deal with a low libido husband?Even if he doesn't come back super low, he can still boost it (a bit) by lifting weights and eating clean. I can tell a very big difference when I get into the lazy diet/lack of workout routine, and I am 35. It can be a hard problem to discuss and admit to as a man. Good luck! | /r/RedPillWives | 06/04/21 01:46 PM |
| 3 | How to deal with a low libido husband?Has he been tested for low testosterone? | /r/RedPillWives | 06/04/21 01:41 PM |
| 4 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.Those women ARE the servants. Awfully judgemental, eh? If she hates her traditional role, she's ok, but if she likes it, she's a servant? Simps are guys that want the opposite role nature intended for them, and this is why even Feminists don't date simps. Look at the reverse, would a TRP date a traditional woman? Absolutely, he'd be stoked. Wonder why that is..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 01:39 PM |
| 5 | Underground “News”?Twitter is an excellent source of news if you follow quality news sources; I don't mean CNN, Fox, etc, though I leave them on for headlines, but individual reporters most often have twitter feeds, 3rd party news (al-jezeera, bbc is ok, etc etc); I also follow a lot of economists, because they tend to have the most candid view on the world and current events. | /r/MGTOW | 06/04/21 01:35 PM |
| 6 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.I mean, solution would be to not use Tinder, because it is a very shallow app. Tinder, OKC, Match, Bumble, etc. are the #1 way that couples are meeting in the United States today. Telling someone "just don't use the most popular way" is a bad piece of advice. Men dating down has always been the case, even forcing women in a position where they have to marry for money. This is true. In a world where Men made more money, they married down. So if women are making more money, why aren't they marry… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 01:01 PM |
| 4 | If you're not hot or rich, you can't afford to be shallow.The issue arises when the AVERAGE woman is shallow, per your example. If you go through tinder, lets say, where it is 2.5 men to 1 women, you don't see average men getting average women, which means that women aren't selecting based on average, they're picking based on percieved added value. While I don't think this is inherently a problem, in an unregulated world, it is a big problem with a regulated one. If an average man in an unregulated world is worth 100k, and an average Woman is worth 50k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 07:37 AM |
| 0 | How did you reconcile with these redpill ideas?used to matter in the religious context, still matters without religion. Unpopular opinion: Religion was created because people wanted justification for existence; not because there actually is justification for existence. Religion itself only provides validation, but validation is a powerful tool for motivation. If you want a man to kill another man, just convince him its the right thing to do and he'll do the rest for you. How do we go about then, knowing of many women who are indulging in sex… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/04/21 06:10 AM |
| 2 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentswhat about people that are divorced or getting divorce right now? You're not going to like my answer, but you pick an arbitrary deadline and you cut off support after that. There is never a "perfect" moment. Plus, if you want to address the reason, I guess we should address the reasons for divorce in the first place. This is part of the whole point of the debate. For instance, I'm going to use traditional roles for this example. A man is a breadwinner. He makes the most money. The woman takes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 05:52 AM |
| -2 | How did you reconcile with these redpill ideas?we have to tackle the idea of individuality and freedom of expression There is nothing in nature to suggest we have to do this. This social concept is our own doing. One thing that is infallible in human nature is the concept of "more" that animals don't have. If we apply these to the man/woman dynamic, we see two very obvious conclusions that should play out, and do: Men. If woman validate me, I want MORE women. Women. If Money provides me security, I want MORE security. There is no "cap" to th… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/04/21 05:17 AM |
| 1 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsI don't think anyone is saying that they want to care about "who" is getting divorced; this post clearly references a desire to reduce the over-all quantity. We do have legal systems, and they are unbalanced. Historically I would generally agree with the unbalanced nature, as a Breadwinner risks much less than a Domestic in a long term arrangement breaking up. "better things" just depends on what you're concerned about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 04:45 AM |
| 1 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsOne could make a pretty compelling argument that if we help out tomorrow's would-be single parents by reducing the behavior that creates single parents, there would be less support and therapy necessary. And inevitably, the people "supporting" are often those who didn't contribute. Should my tax dollars go to your poor decision? Is it better to address the reasons that crime exists, or to let crime happen but focus on rehabilitation? Shaming really isn't anything other than old-fashioned governm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 04:45 AM |
| 1 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsWell, for starters: Children from single-parent and stepparent families have higher poverty rates and lower levels of educational and occupational attainment than children who grow up with both their biological or adoptive parents ARE BOTH PARENTS ALWAYS BETTER THAN ONE? PARENTAL CONFLICT AND YOUNG ADULT WELL-BEING (nih.gov) People should be having less children before they're in a committed relationship if they want better outcomes for their children, according to the data. edit: and Shaming is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 04:31 AM |
| 1 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsDoes this comment imply you believe we shouldn't be legislating for "equality" because it is just being a busybody? Or does it imply we should only be busybody's for select topics? "Keep it in the family" was a thing for a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 04:25 AM |
| 1 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsIsn't the presumption that they believe that discouraging behaviors you don't approve of will lead to less of those behaviors? Or are you asking for "why do you believe these are bad behaviors" ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 04:23 AM |
| 4 | How to be sexist and racist while holding the high moral groundWell, alliances in general are strategic, they aren't about shared beliefs. The men's movement, for example, would be wise to create allies out of traditional women by supporting laws that incentivize or reward partners for staying home. The vast majority of these partners will be women, and they might work in Tandem to ostracize the movements that reward going out of the home, which effectually punishes those who stay home. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/21 04:13 AM |
| 8 | Other than moral obligation, why shouldn’t i just be a piece of shit to females??I didn't suggest that, did I. You ought to read about what "healthy boundaries" are, and then learn to set them. Are you willing to tolerate if your lady friend has lots of male friends or "friends"? If no, you should inform her of your boundary and its up to her to respect that. If she doesn't, its up to you to enforce that by leaving. She might create a boundary that she is uncomfortable with you spending time with other women 1 on 1, and you would be in the same boat about respect. Lots of re… | /r/askTRP | 06/04/21 04:09 AM |
| 15 | Other than moral obligation, why shouldn’t i just be a piece of shit to females??You shouldn't treat anyone like a piece of shit. You should set what you determine to be healthy boundaries, communicate them respectfully, and enforce them. If you don't want to pay for a date, don't. | /r/askTRP | 06/04/21 03:56 AM |
| 14 | Do you think social media, smartphones and online dating has changed the dating landscape that much, or are the effects of this overstated?Without a doubt; I can cite sources if you like, but I believe this stat is neutral enough to stand on its own. In a recent survey of conservatives, 90% of those who self described themselves as getting their news from facebook/social media/etc described themselves as believing that the US Gov't had done "everything it could do" in response to the pandemic. Those conservatives who self identified getting their information from Social media and other sources only described themselves 40% in belie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 03:46 AM |
| -6 | How did you reconcile with these redpill ideas?One of the biggest things I've taken away from my time in these various spheres is that feminists believe that the core fabric of evolutionary structure is biased against them. This is true. It is also biased for them. It just depends on what the topic of the moment is. What you rarely see in the Feminist movements is the desire to take on the undesirable parts of equality. In nursing, for example, Women are currently fighting the "wage gap problem". when you dive into the statistics however, yo… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/04/21 03:29 AM |
| 1 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsRising suicide rates are damaging for society - suicide impacts not only the person committing suicide but everyone else in their circles. What is interesting is that the rates of suicide are rising in the face of these changes. If the changes were causing less suicide, it would be an indication of improvement, but this is not the case. Fascism You meant totalitarianism, the rule of belief structures which don't allow other belief structures. instead of government overreach one is using soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 03:11 AM |
| 1 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsRates of marriage would fall as people can no longer leave it, but still don't need it to survive. Likely further fall in the birth rate. These are both conjectures based on nothing. People in the base got married MORE often, not less, with the social-shaming, and the birth rates were higher, not lower. I do agree, however, that we should be wary of unintended consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 03:02 AM |
| 2 | We should revive the stigma towards divorced parentsCounter point; the quantity of people to shame doesn't imply they shouldn't be shamed, it only suggests there would be more shaming necessary to facilitate the change the shaming was intended to produce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 02:59 AM |
| 5 | if you shame women (not men) with high body counts, you shouldn't complain about 80% of women sleeping with the 20% of men.I'm confused, are you arguing that biology is biased? Because that is observably true, but the issue lay with modern society deciding that women need intervention in the non-relationship world to achieve "equality", but deserve their status of "inequality - favored" in the relationship world. If we let the markets run themselves (no welfare, no child assistance programs, etc), you'd have a clear cut case of women looking for men who could provide for their desired families, and as they aged (and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 02:07 AM |
| 1 | All feminists are ugly looking chicks because no man would commit to them.Generalizations like this are unhelpful because they solve nothing useful. People cannot help their natural features, and there are plenty of ugly men in the men's movements too. This type of statement creates the impression that the men's movements are less valid because it's just a pile of women-haters. Anecdotal evidence is rarely a good measure for how things are, and even if your supposition were true, less attractive people should not be treated poorly just because they're unattractive, ev… | /r/MGTOW | 06/04/21 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Is there something wrong with fat girls?Yes, there is. Fat people, women included, are sick. Their bodies will break faster. They won't be able to participate in similar activities. They cannot perform as well sexually. They will die younger. At its core between genders however, a man who goes out and earns a bunch of money can be fat. He can still provide a decent life for kids and a wife. He may die younger, but his role of "producer" is still taken care of, and often times men are fat because the work imbalance doesn't leave them t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/21 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Bad Redpill arguments against promisciousness of womenMost generic STD panels don't cover or suggest Herpes tests. This wasn't in any sort of education I have ever had, and I was in a middle class white area, so I didn't find out until a woman I was with in my mid 20s happened to mention it, I just assumed the tests I'd gotten were the ones I was supposed to get, and most people I knew 25 and under weren't testing regularly, and didn't know this either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/21 10:28 AM |
| 2 | Was a breakup inevitable in a situation like this?Yep, ultimately that's why her thing with this other guy would work, at least for a while, but there would be little chance of respect; if dad is passive/aggressive, he'll appreciate passive partners more than aggressive partners. She would have needed to demonstrate that you came first, not the other way around, for any real success there unless you just so happened to get on well with the guy, via a sports comradery or something. | /r/askTRP | 05/04/21 10:13 AM |
| 3 | Was a breakup inevitable in a situation like this?Obviously I don't know the specifics, but you used specific words: " Overprotecting father " " I don't really get along with her mother " " only child " So, you didn't have her unwavering support, you didn't have her parents support, and from your story there was no reward for moving other than continuing the relationship. This makes you a passenger to the situation, no the driver. Then you mention that her parents are overprotective, and you hear this from her, indicating that she sees her fath… | /r/askTRP | 05/04/21 09:51 AM |
| 4 | Ex-red sick of the LARP.They wouldn't. The risk would be so high on the part of the "prover" that it would never make sense to prove anything. No one cares if some guy on the internet doubts you. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/21 09:09 AM |
| 3 | Was a breakup inevitable in a situation like this?Historically speaking, it was very common for families with daughters to offer "the farm" to the potential husband, as a bribe for marriage. This meant that the woman came with a certain amount of wealth, and was a way for those men poorer or equal to their partner to get some wealth, land after all, is the only true wealth other than power. This implied that the man would go and live near the women's parents, often sharing living spaces. (Same land, different hut) The woman however, had respons… | /r/askTRP | 05/04/21 08:29 AM |
| 1 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityChad is just recognizing what women value in the short term, that's it. In the modern age of 3rd wave feminism, Chad knows this doesn't go anywhere except a fun time, and his genes and workout routine earn him some fun; thats it. He isn't going to commit his resources to you because he knows you're going to flip him for a higher security catch when it comes along and you're ready to settle down. "Changing your Chad" never works, and women constantly complain about getting with a man who long ter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/21 08:17 AM |
| -8 | Ex-red sick of the LARP.People claiming to get mad poon with absolutely 0 proof, Should they post the proof and get dinged for felony revenge porn laws? | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/21 05:08 AM |
| 36 | Sex Workers Are The Most Toxic Women EverThis is just envelope pushing; such as the "cuddle prostitutes" in japan; men paying women for a shred of emotion connection. Yesterday women could turn down sex, but offered relationships Prostitutes couldn't sell relationships so they sold sex. . Today women turn down relationships, so prostitutes sell relationships. This is a legislated market at work. | /r/MGTOW | 05/04/21 04:33 AM |
| 1 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityI don't think anything, I just look at numbers and correlate for cause and effect. It's not a polite process, feeling get hurt, and that is typically how honesty works. Men evolutionarily present resources and security. Women offer validation and reproduction. If you legislate resources and security away from one half of the equation, what happens to the equation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/21 04:30 AM |
| 0 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityFirst comment Pilling_it 2 days ago Orrrrr it's an evolutionary instinct to secure resources so the offspring have the best chance of survival? It goes way back. Next Comment YouSaidChicken 2 days ago Thats because they weren't tabula rasa "taught" it, so nice try blaming the patriarchy. You find this same hypergamy and gold digging throughout the animal kingdom, from crabs to birds. It's all over the place, and humans are no different. Women are natural gold diggers because evolution, just now … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 04:03 PM |
| 1 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityHypergamy is a spercific word with spercific meaning but RP uses its own meaning, No, they don't. You can repeat it all day, but you can no matter how many times you say that vaccines cause autism, that won't be true either. Hypergamy: the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background. This is exactly how they use it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 03:45 PM |
| 3 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityparticularly in reference to pre-modern, arranged marriages. You're the only one stating this, there is no factual basis for this statement, and there is at least one study of 500,000+ men and women showcasing that hypergamy exists in women, but not in men. There are no studies showing that it has anything to do with how the marriage is arranged, nor that this is a pre/post modern phenomenon. The study in fact showed that even when women were now out performing men in their own traditional brack… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 03:29 PM |
| 11 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityWhat does it matter what you call it? Firstly, this. We use words for a reason. They mean things. You cannot communicate without sounding like an idiot if you don't know what words mean. Stop arguing people should be dumber. The problem is dissatisfaction This is commonly a problem, yes. Women are dissatisfied if they are not at the top (hence climbing, using their body as a currency to attempt to secure a higher position) and men are dissatisfied if they're not mating with enough frequency (hen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 03:17 PM |
| 2 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communitythe average man isn’t as “polished” as the average woman. There also aren't magazines advertising that sweaty women from work are attractive, or that unshaved women are attractive, or that bearded women are better or worse than shaved women. Beauty standards aren't held to the same standards because both sexes don't view beauty the same way. No "mens magazine" throws 50 Ronda Rousey looking women in there in some "this is the new sexy" mantra. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 03:03 PM |
| 4 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityThe things you claim we lie about either doesn’t apply to us or applies to men and women equally and we are simply conditioned to not be honest if that honesty hurts some one. You're already lying in this thread, right now. On average, men marry equal or down. On average, Women marry equal or up. Statistically proven in the most gender neutral country in the world. These two things are not the same. Then you claim you don't lie you just lie because you don't want to be held accountable for the t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 03:00 PM |
| 3 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityCheating without leaving your relationship is still a passively hypergamous move. You want a few bits of both women. No it's not. Hypergamy is moving up in social class. HyPOgamy is moving down. Men fuck down, women marry up. Studied factual phenomenon. A beautiful woman is not a social class in and of itself. Hypogamy is the act of marrying someone of a lower social and economic class than your own. Hypogamy has been found to be practiced more by men than by women. For men power and control is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 02:50 PM |
| 24 | The hypocrisy i’ve seen in the RedPill communityWomen are hypergamous but men aren’t. Hahaha Well men are hypergamous too, most women’s fears is their husband leaving them for a prettier and younger woman when they older. Most men are willing to cheat/leave their gf for a prettier woman This is not what hypergamous means.Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "marrying up", occasionally referred to as "higher-gamy") is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person marrying a spouse of higher caste or social status than the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?I would say it is not "fair" to tell men OR women not to use the biological traits to their advantage, OR I would tell both men AND women it's "fair" to use all of their biological traits to their advantage. Women are born with inherited genetics that increase their native interpersonal and empathic abilities; should we ban the use of these things for being unfair? You'll argue that one doesn't cause damage the same way the other does, because that is always the tired old trope. The fact is, no,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?Hey, I don't know what the comment said, but thanks for moderating this way. Personal attacks are unnecessary and help nothing and I just wanted you to know that I appreciate your effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"If its illegal in the spot you do it, they should shame you in the spot you do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:00 PM |
| 0 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"Illegality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 10:31 PM |
| -1 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"Isn't the sexual freedom movement all about not shaming people for their sexual choices? Now you're just picking which arbitrary values to shame people for; those are entirely subjective. I generally agree with the idea, but society doesn't seem to want to shame anyone but men lately. Plenty of magazines and such calling a woman who cheats "empowered" and describes "she wouldn't cheat if she were fulfilled at home"; well duh, no one would, but right now we're not on an even playing field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"100% agree, but hypergamy will still step up where it can, 40k to 50k, 60k to 70k, etc, and all along the way people have to weigh their risks vs their desired outcomes. A really good example he had was a Woman with 2 kids, divorced for being cheated on, previous high earner spouse, was now looking for another spouse, around 40, high earner, that didn't want to have any kids (because she already had 2, and as past that stage). She was looking for her ex husband, lol. Risk/reward might have told … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"but it isn't stopping that aspiring waitress from hoping and "not settling", now is it. Pretty hard to argue there aren't some big imbalances in the dating world when both sides are raging about the other. Marriage, however, yes, a high class 7-9 woman who wants to keep that lifestyle is likely already well in tune with what's expected and how she can thrive in that environment. And as he mentions, Women at the very top often have relationship problems, and if the relationship breaks down, you e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"Hypergamy is not a notion, its been proven. Not all leaps up in status are large, the vast majority will be 1-2 ranks, but its there. The big imbalance he often discusses is that where Men made a lot of money and married/had relationships downward, now that women are in more positions of weath they still want to date upward. in a room full of 100 men and 100 women, most of them will be 5s, and when multiple 5's women would rather mistress themselves (than "settle" for another 5, like them) than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"Isn't the sexual freedom movement all about not shaming people for their sexual choices? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:13 PM |
| 0 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"When was 120k wealthy? That's like upper-middle class at best A man making over 100k is currently in the top 15%. Thats a nice place to be if you're in the bottom 50%. Looks, submissiveness, and fertility are all currencies that can be used to trade for status and position. You might not see it that way, but obviously plenty do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Should HVM be allowed to Cheat since they have "options"All he's really doing is creating a cold framework to discuss something. People have to make risk analysis decisions when they're in the relationship world based on their value systems. If a person making 30-40k, pretty average salaries, wants a 100k lifestyle, and they manage to earn a partner who earns in that range, they have to decide if cheating is worth costing them their lifestyle. In the case of men/women he also points out that these women often have side partners of their own. He is al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:05 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subnobody in the country you currently reside in will ever put your desire to fuck around without consequences over the wellbeing of any children you produce. Actually, that's exactly what abortion laws are all about; everyone's ability to fuck around without needing to have kids. Why would you think otherwise seeing how detrimental a gender imbalance would be to their country? China wouldn't go on to find out about the problems with one-two-three generations of gender quantity problems for 30 + ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?Not as often as monkeys, That's actually pretty unknowable until you put people into an observed environment. and its not socially acceptable Right now maybe. "Though laws had changed in every state by 1993 in only 17 states was marital rape treated the same as non-marital rape. In the other states there continued to be significant differences in the way marital and non-marital rape were treated, such as less severe penalties, or excluding situations where no violence is used, or shorter reporti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:38 PM |
| 10 | How to not be brainwashed by the red pill> To let you know, I am someone who never slept around with anyone and has never been in a relationship. If this is true (and I'm just taking your word, I have no reason to know your story and believe and/or doubt you) than you are the oddity in the market. TRP is geared towards men's interactions in mainstream dating and being used as a someone else's convenient pocketbook \ emotional handkerchief. Your story wouldn't fit, because you don't fit that structure right now. You got a first hand loo… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/04/21 05:23 PM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Have you ever watched the 1984 interview with Yuri Bezmenov? Fucking fascinating and eye opening on some of this sorta stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgmg2VFX058 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?humans don't rape people Yes they do and it they do they're punished Only if others want to punish them. Sometimes a raped woman/girl is forced to marry her rapist. Punishment? Yes and, my point is they shouldn't Better to deal in realities; governments should (and do) attempt to control civil stability. They don't care if women are oppressed if society is functional. whats actually better for people Define better. People been knocking each other on the head and takin their wives for millions of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:13 PM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I would generally be more concerned with the side effects of loss of reserve currency; generally this process coincides with large scale war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:10 PM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.US dollar is simply the unit of trading account for Oil that World Central Banks have agreed to. Until 2020. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-17988142 A lot of people don't recognize the danger this poses to the American way of life. The dollar's actual value is entirely based on the 1944 Bretton Woods Agreement, which was based on military firepower. While we might have the firepower still, we have no will or real ability to use it in any large scale way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:04 PM |
| 2 | Remember "The Red Pill" movie is free to anyone who wants to watch itsurfshark VPN surfshark VPN™ FTFY alt + 0153 | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?Bananas don't have a behavior, youre just miles away from your stupid DNA argument Not my argument, but nice try: "It is clear from multiple lines of evidence that all researched behavioural traits and disorders are influenced by genes; that is, they are heritable. The single largest source of evidence comes from twin studies, where it is routinely observed that monozygotic (identical) twins are more similar to one another than are same-sex dizygotic (fraternal) twins.[11][12]" https://en.wikipe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?Again not a behavior List all the behaviors of a banana and we'll go from there. You mean the Islamic countries, I think they're doing pretty horrible in most social measures You might, they might not. If our government thinks that adopting similar social behavior changes will result in positive social stability, out comes the new outfits. Yes and what i said is that the fairness of sexual market between men and women should not be considered while making laws Firstly, says you. Secondly, laws a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Whats the equivalent of Daddy Issues for guys?Daddy's girls are women who have sexualized the characteristics of their father. Is what I posted. abnormal relationship with one's father, often manifesting in a distrust of, or sexual desire for, men who act as father figures. Is what the quoted definition includes. No where did I imply or state that sexualizing the characteristics of your father was a normal behavior, and no where did I imply why they were sexualizing them; only that they were. "HEY! It IS true that young women want to fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:29 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subAbortion is a consequence It is also a choice, one that women fought for the right to have. Men ought to have the same choices in an equal society's legal framework. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Whats the equivalent of Daddy Issues for guys?Nope, 3rd times not the charm didn't get emotionally from their father, not sexually. sexual desire for, men who act as father figures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:04 PM |
| 0 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?The population doesn't need to grow right now and this is therefore not a problem yet like it is in Japan or the north of Europe That's a decision that firstly, wouldn't be made lightly, and secondly, wouldn't be made in our current economic model, which is based on debt and debt servicing, and requires a population growth to get bigger and bigger in order to service the debt. Thats extremely dumb, burning is not a behavior We both grow in sunshine, how's that. You didn't answer my question, how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:02 PM |
| 4 | Whats the equivalent of Daddy Issues for guys?Girls with daddy issues are looking for what they didn't get emotionally from their father Twice you've been a really shitty troll. 3rd times a charm? daddy issues WHAT DOES DADDY ISSUES MEAN? Daddy issues is an informal phrase for the psychological challenges resulting from an absent or abnormal relationship with one's father, often manifesting in a distrust of, or sexual desire for, men who act as father figures. https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/daddy-issues/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?"In its traditional form, it is worn by women to maintain modesty and privacy from unrelated males. According to the Encyclopedia of Islam and Muslim World, modesty in the Quran concerns both men's and women's "gaze, gait, garments, and genitalia". The Qur'an instructs Muslim women to dress modestly." Maybe I should have been more careful with my particular verbage, but the sentiment is the same. If you're from that culture, I apologize for incorrectly naming the particular item. https://en.wiki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:52 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThen everyone is equally responsible since everyone dies, smart guy. Women died AND they dealt with the consequences of pregnancy and child rearing even when it was forced upon them. Yes, they weren't murdered until after they were done being useful. Genetically speaking, they survived through their children. Was it personally pleasant? Probably not, but they did reproduce to continue the line. Men did not fare the same. You've given up on logic at this point. Honestly all this talk about men ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:48 PM |
| 0 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?How does having a high school dress code on the streets is going to drive the birth rate up. I didn't imply that it did. I said governments make laws to curb behaviors that threaten national stability. If they believe wearing or not wearing whatever causes this, they'll make changes. The birth rates are also not a problem in the US witch I imagine is the only country all of us can know enough to speak about. Firstly, the birthrate in the USA is around 1.7 last I saw, which is under the 2.1 requi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:42 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subA consequence is dealing with the result of an action or decision one makes Like when a woman takes the action of deciding to keep a fertilized egg, instead of opting for abortion. Glad we could agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:27 PM |
| 3 | According to the CDC, the safest romantic relationship is between two men. Just some facts to spit.Ah, in that case I'd say if you don't like men, you probably shouldn't, otherwise its not really your business what the guy across the road is doing. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 02:22 PM |
| 4 | Whats the equivalent of Daddy Issues for guys?It was protecting that I don't want to call my partner by the name my mother has; lol; nothing to read there bucko. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:21 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subnobody is ever going to support harming a child or even reducing their quality of life to save you a few hundred dollars every month. Don't have sex you sociopath. You mean like the Chinese government deliberately turning a blind eye to the mass murder of baby girls because the family's wanted boys during the "One Child" policy? Stop being a naïve idealist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:20 PM |
| 4 | According to the CDC, the safest romantic relationship is between two men. Just some facts to spit.I can't tell what kind of comment this is supposed to be. Sarcastic, Serious, Funny, etc. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 02:18 PM |
| 4 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?People don't make laws on the basis of your SMP. The goal of laws isn't to balance SMP advances or to imbalance advantages, they really do give 0 fucks about it as they should. This is not true at all, governments make laws around things that threaten national stability. This is one of their primary functions. They don't care if you like dicks or holes, but they sure care if whatever you like causes them issues. A declining birth rate is a real issue, and some countries are already taking steps … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:12 PM |
| 3 | Since men's main advantages in the SMP have been made illegal, would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages?> would you consider it fair to ban some of women's main advantages? This is exactly what the middle eastern reversion to conservatism has done with Burqas and rules for women and such. Is it fair? I wouldn't say its fair to ban either sides advantages, but I also wouldn't say life is fair. "You eat what you kill" has been an effective evolutionary strategy for a long time. I believe feminism has a risk in pushing the envelope too far in that if they open the door for one political party to re-w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:58 PM |
| 10 | Whats the equivalent of Daddy Issues for guys?Daddy's girls are women who have sexualized the characteristics of their father. Find a Man who has sexualized the characteristics of his mother. I won't even date a woman with my mothers name, nope no thanks, swipe left or whatever. Mommy's boys are a real thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:25 PM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subYou don’t go to court and tell your true intentions. You just advocated perjury. Not a sound idea to spread to the masses, nor employ yourself. Your lawyer will coach you on what to say Lol. Again it depends my uncle didn’t have to pay his divorce and family lawyer anything. His ex wife was the one that had to foot his bill after the law suit. Your uncle got a portion of his ex wifes money? A supply of money that was diminished by the lawyer she had to pay for? Sounds like he paid, all right; do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:19 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subSo contest for full custody and have her rights stripped. You keep saying this like it's a quick and simple process. You're also not taking into account that you have to have merit for this claim; "I want the kid so I can give it away" is not merit; she has to be proven an unfit mother to lose those rights. You might adjust your payment or visitation, but you're not "stripping" anything from anyone. I've been a very close witness to this exact process. Depends on what kind of lawyer you get and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:08 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subwhen there’s no proof of paternity there’s no obligations from the man during the actual pregnancy So your argument is that because the potential father might not have to help for 8-9 months, that its equality that he has no right but needs to pay for 18 years? You can end that pregnancy whenever you want, you choose to keep and pay those bills. Now, if you're arguing that a woman should have the right to establish paternity during pregnancy, and then sue for partial (50%) reimbursement recovery… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:55 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThis makes absolutely no sense. They did successfully reproduce in the scenario that we're discussing and are now partially responsible for the child they helped create. You asserted that I wanted men to live lives without consequence. I retorted that the consequences have already been lived through when conception happens, if a man does not find a partner who is interested in having his child, he has consequences for that, his genes die off. Those are real biological consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:51 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subWomen have always been more responsible than men. It's really very simple. The ultimate form of being held responsible for your decisions, in this world, is death. Period. It ends all other things for you. Being raped or caring for children is no where near the level of accountability that death is. Period. Men who were held accountable were killed; that's evolution. The worse their ideas and willpower to implement those, the less likely their genes were to get passed on. THAT is accountability.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:42 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subNo, fair enough you held me to literal definition. Fair play. Women can choose to be sired, however, and men cannot choose to un-keep or keep. Do I want to have sex with this person Him: Decision. Her: Decision. Do I want to ejaculate into/be ejaculated into this person Him: Decision Her: Decision Do I want to keep this pregnancy and have a child and make two people legally responsible for paying for that child? Him: Chirp chirp Her: Decision. Not equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:33 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subYou're only allowing for one factor. If it was just that single factor? I would probably choose to avoid it, but that's my right. It's not my right to inflict my decision making on anyone else, or treat them differently for their decision. If I were a person who wanted to ejaculate in a girl, for whatever reason (maybe its my own kooky religion) and I didn't want to foster a child, I would obviously still choose to ejaculate in a woman, as abstinence is my only other choice, and you've no right … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:26 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subA man can at all times choose to not sire a pregnancy. So can a woman. The lack of equality is that she has additional choices after that choice, and a man does not, and they have different potential outcomes based entirely upon one genders choice and not the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:20 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subSure, you want to talk risk management, I'm all for it. A person should take whatever risk management precautions they feel comfortable with, as when people ask me what they should invest in, my answer is always the same "I can't decide what your risk tolerance is". But Everyone is treated equally, men and women, when they buy or sell a stock. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:19 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThe same can absolutely be said for a man. A woman can, at ALL TIMES, choose to abort a fetus. A man can never choose to abort a fetus. Equal isn't only on mondays and tuesdays. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:09 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThe choice that has the highest probability of yielding an outcome you don’t want is the wrong choice. That’s reality not my judgment. Period. That doesn't in any way make it a morally wrong choice to anyone who doesn't agree. To you? Perhaps, but certainly not to everyone. When we allow for peoples belief structures to force others to act in a particular fashion, we start down the roads that no one wants to go towards. First rule of a belief structure: Make sure there are no other beliefs allow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:07 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subYou're welcome to misunderstand what equality actually means, no one can stop you. Just like you're welcome to believe there are secret spy capsules in the covid vaccines; you can live in whatever fantasy you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:03 PM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subBut even if the government forcibly takes the child away, the parents still have to pay child support while the child is in foster care. If that particular state does it that way, and only until the child is legally adopted. If the child is adopted, the birth parents have no further obligations or privileges to that child. If a father dies while his child is a minor then they can successfully contest it in court They can also unsuccessfully contest in court. Dying with a Will Generally, a person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:53 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThey can make them go somewhere else though without them being medically removed. So can women, straight into the trash can. No one is requiring you to take a load up the hole, you volunteered for that. Huh? Women can now guarantee that a man cannot reproduce without her consent in this country. The same cannot be said for a man. A woman can guarantee that her legal rights and obligations to any potential child are removed at her will, the same cannot be said for a man. So the ones that don’t wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:46 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subYou’re correct! Women are solely responsible for their eggs. Good, than we agree that its not my problem with what you do with your eggs. At the end of the day if a man wants to knock up 500 women. That’s his business And if he wants to sleep with 500 women and have no kids, that's his choice too. Equality. Just as those 500 women could choose to not have his kid. Lmaoo if you’re having sex with a women you have the right to choose whether or not you want to ejaculate inside and whether or not y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:42 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subMen and women both have the legal right to bodily autonomy. This is actually only recent, to be clear. These are not in any way "rights", whether they are moral or not is only a matter of regional mob rule. Edit: Saudi Arabia, for example, is a defacto 1st world country. Abortion in Saudi Arabia is illegal unless done to save the life of a woman. You drag her into your cave, you get a kid, she gets no choice. No bodily autonomy; it is not a "right". You made your decision in the conception proce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:24 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subExcept where legal obligations and privileges apply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:19 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subfairly equitable system. According to you. Some people think that pre- roe vs wade was fairly equitable. Lets skip "Fairly equitable" and make "equitable". We'll let nature be the only arbiter of hard truths. The last issue that needs to... I wouldn't agree that the last issue, but we agree on the premise here. Women can’t redirect and command their eggs the way men can their sperm Men don't tell their sperm to stop swimming so fast. Lol and they will only be guy 2s kids if guy 1 was murdered be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:16 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subNope, because most women don’t have sperm. The man does so he is solely responsible for it. Nope, because most men don't have eggs. The woman does so she is solely responsible for it. Yawn. Except I didn’t tell anyone to close their legs. Men can have sex without impregnating someone . So have your legs open as wide and as often as you wish, just breed responsibly if you don’t want the consequences of being irresponsible. There you go again, telling people how to use their sexual organs. He has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 11:03 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subAm I inflicting them on you? Or am I stating my opinion. You are inflicting them on me if you seek to use them to enforce your belief that your system is better than an equitable system. if you for certain know you will not like the outcome of a choice then making it would be the wrong choice There you go again, judging the casual sex culture. Not your business. He doesn’t need any medical intervention to decide where his gametes go. Neither does she, she could decide not to take the risk, same … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 10:42 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subWomen CANNOT simply walk a way from a pregnancy like a man can. In today's social climate and legal framework, they can also get pregnant much easier than a man. With privilege comes responsibility. You want me to get pregnant too, see the man upstairs. They have to jump through multiple hoops, put together the money, and deal with the physical consequences of an abortion Biology covers 1/2, and I've well stated already that men who choose to commit to supporting a pregnancy ought to be obligate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 10:29 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subNo you did. Unless she forced you to ejaculate inside that was your choice. No YOU did, unless he forced you to let him ejaculate inside that was your choice. Easy to turn this around. A responsible adult. Maybe you've been to America before, its a semi new country. Responsible adults aren't allowed to dictate what other adults do. If you don’t want a kid Close your legs. Offensive when it's said back to you, isn't it? Yes it is how equality works. He has obligations and rights to it You can't b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 10:20 AM |
| 5 | USA Birth Rates Fall To A 1.7 births per women in December 2020: This number had fallen by 7.1% in December since the pandemic: The decline of children in America is becoming a threat to the population. In other words --> MGTOW is WINNING!Women are known to occupy a lot more "non essential" jobs. The vast majority of people in my office are men, though some women, and we're all essential (technical field). The restaurants full of waitresses just started opening back up like a month ago. Probably need stats from a place like florida, which had didn't officially close at all that I recall. | /r/MGTOW | 03/04/21 10:05 AM |
| 5 | Dating women who have advanced degreesIt’s a fallacy when men cry divorce rape wolf IMO. Ah good, we're on to the "I don't believe it so it must not be true". How scientific of you. And this is why divorce rape is real for a woman breadwinner As it should be in an equal society, you wanted to be the bread winner, apparently getting divorce raped is appropriate for breadwinners. I hope you had to leave the house and kids too, with every other weekend and splitting holidays. That would be equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 10:01 AM |
| 3 | According to the CDC, the safest romantic relationship is between two men. Just some facts to spit.When men take the microphone back; my concern is when they do, they will be very loud with it, and they will feel justified in being so, and as a centrist, I would find it hard to blame them. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 09:49 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subShe makes no decisions about a man's body, the government gives children the legal right to both parent's incomes. No it doesn't. If a Man and women cannot provide for the child, the child is taken away and given to someone who can provide. The state doesn't then go after the parents future earnings. And if a parent dies, he is not obligated that someone step in and make his financial well being 'whole'. In fact, if a Man with a young child dies, he can opt to leave his entire estate to a poodle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 09:48 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subWhich is why they're both legally obligated to provide for the child. The law is already equal. Women are not obligated to provide for the child; they have the unilateral decisions to abort a fetus, or give it up for adoption and rid themselves of the legal and financial obligations. The reason you're not winning this argument isn't because I'm morally superior, but because I'm factually correct. The law doesn't treat women and men the same in regards to children and legal responsibilities and p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 09:45 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIf you have children before you're ready then don't bitch about child support. Nobody wants to hear it. The government should support me in the same way it supports women in the child production process. I have no idea what you mean by this. The government could introduce a law requiring parents to make X financial amount (or have X financial amount) before being allowed to raise children, similar sorta to china's one child policy. Edit: presumably the gov't steps in and takes or kills your chil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 09:43 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subShe certainly can. She can also use her right to get an abortion. That's the beauty of having the full right to make medical decisions about your own body. She's also making decisions about the child's body, and man's body. A child doesn't choose to be grown, and a man must now go and provide labor to pay for that child, labor that will cost his time and body. Now, if you don't believe it's a child (I don't), than a man certainly doesn't have to care for your cell collection. But you don't want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:55 AM |
| 0 | Practically speaking, is there anything wrong with increased promiscuity in society?This is true, generally behaviors are most consistent when incentivized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:49 AM |
| 9 | Remember "The Red Pill" movie is free to anyone who wants to watch itc'mon mang, get yourself a free vpn. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 06:09 AM |
| 7 | According to the CDC, the safest romantic relationship is between two men. Just some facts to spit.The stats are pretty interesting. The most violent pairs were relationships involving bisexuals, but I didn't include them as it would be impossible to know how many men/women there were; but it was notable that bisexual men had experienced more violence than gay men, introducing women increase the violence level. Facts. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 06:08 AM |
| 3 | Practically speaking, is there anything wrong with increased promiscuity in society?A lot less single mothers when society forced couples to get married after a pregnancy. Were there some? Yea, there will always be some. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Practically speaking, is there anything wrong with increased promiscuity in society?From a strictly evolutionary standpoint, because it eventually causes strife among men, who will solve things the old fashioned way. While I've read recent evidence that there is suggestion that man kind has the DNA for Monogamous and Polyamorous lifestyles, it is the Monogamous men that will get more violent if you mess with 'their' lady. edit: the social creation of "my tribe" (family, community, state, nation levels) made mankind much more productive. Small caveman life existed for 10s of tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:55 AM |
| 3 | Practically speaking, is there anything wrong with increased promiscuity in society?The government wants to encourage people to have children, because otherwise there isn't a society to govern. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:52 AM |
| 11 | Practically speaking, is there anything wrong with increased promiscuity in society?Everyone gotta pay those taxes. Men included. Poorer single parents on various welfare programs get tax dollars. Vast majority (80%+) are single moms. Men are paying for other peoples promiscuity . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:51 AM |
| 2 | LTR ghosted me - surprising u-turnObvious "how much does he like me" test. | /r/askTRP | 03/04/21 05:37 AM |
| 1 | Do women actually biologically outnumber men from birth or do they just live longer?Wikipedia: Like most sexual species, the sex ratio in humans is close to 1:1. In humans, the natural ratio between males and females at birth is slightly biased towards the male sex, being estimated to be about 1.05 or 1.06 or within a narrow range from 1.03 to 1.06 males/per female born. Sex imbalance may arise as a consequence of various factors including natural factors, exposure to pesticides and environmental contaminants,[5][6] war casualties, sex-selective abortions, infanticides,[7] agin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:32 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThey didn't make the decision. Nature did. Men drag women into caves to make babies. Not the other way around. When a wrong-man comes into the cave, it takes a right-man to remove him. Simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:30 AM |
| 8 | USA Birth Rates Fall To A 1.7 births per women in December 2020: This number had fallen by 7.1% in December since the pandemic: The decline of children in America is becoming a threat to the population. In other words --> MGTOW is WINNING!While I agree with everything you're saying, do you suppose there is a counter argument that this is actually a good thing, because if women aren't volunteering for all these "dirty" trades, than it just means that we'll get to a place faster where they'll be forced to get the "equality" or admit they don't really want equality? Last I checked, not too many lady oil riggers either. | /r/MGTOW | 03/04/21 05:27 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIt is if you make the wrong choice. Well, somebody is judgemental, and here I thought we were talking equal rights. If we're going to discuss inflicting personal beliefs, you can take stall 3 in my personal Harem down on skid row. Don't like my beliefs? I guess we probably shouldn't inflict them on each other then. Ok so how is this the same as a man choosing where to ejaculate? She has every tool available to her to keep or not keep a fertilized or unfertilized egg. If your complaint is that na… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:17 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subBecause impoverished children become criminals which is bad for society? The point is to force both parents to pay so that tax payers don't have to. If you don't want impoverished children, don't have children before you're ready. Alternatively, I suppose we could institute some sort of "financial requirements to parental status" law; that would be interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:09 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subAnd she the option to not let his penis in her. You're still not arguing equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:07 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIf you put something in the woman’s body I didn't; we did. Shared responsibility, shared privileges. Stop taking women out of the equation about how that sperm got there in the first place. He should make choices that line up with his long term wants, not just his short term ones. Who are you to tell someone how they should make their choices? This is sexual freedom, everyone does what they want. Women have just as many responsibilities as they do rights, same with men. With the exception of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 05:06 AM |
| 2 | In defense of femininity. I’m really tired of seeing ultrafeminine habits get dismissed as “basic” (vent)Oh, sure! I hadn't read that from the OP. I was assuming things were consensual/interested, but that there was just a feeling of a lack of appreciation. | /r/RedPillWomen | 03/04/21 04:52 AM |
| 2 | Extremely beta looking> Should i get jaw surgery or a hair transplant? I think you're looking for a physical solution to a mental problem. Therapy would be helpful, don't look down on it just because of some stigma or personal "I shouldn't need this" attitude. You're aware you're having some problems, and just like a nail needs a hammer, a nut needs a wrench, you need some help. Take a bit of that money you're earning and go book a couple sessions with a therapist who deals with inter-personal skills; there are plent… | /r/askTRP | 03/04/21 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Sex toys for men seem to be rarely talked about seriously yet women who buy sex toys are “empowered”. Why?This correlates specifically to the notion that a man who has a sex toy for himself, has one because he cannot get a partner, and is therefore lesser. A woman who gets a sex toy is "empowered" because she "embraces her sexuality" instead of being a frigid prize to be won, locked away in a tower like a damsel in distress. Both viewpoints are pretty dumb, tbh. People should just do what they want, and people and partners shouldn't care unless it impacts them directly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 04:35 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIt’s not Pandora’s box. Men and women have prevention methods for reason. Women are told to control what men they let sleep with them, when how etc and all of those are used as arguments to why abortion shouldn’t be legal or why men shouldn’t pay child support. The same logic works in reverse. I'm not arguing whether abortion should be legal, that's up to the courts to decide. I'm arguing for equitable roles and responsibilities for both parties regardless of which direction the law goes on abor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 04:31 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIf women have the right to walk away from a pregnancy, than so do men. That's "simple" equality. Plain and simple. I do not choose for you, nor you for me. Equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 04:24 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subAnd a woman can use her right to get her tubes tied, we agreed. A child is not a medical "right". If it were, men could demand their children be allowed to come to fruition (and then presumably take responsibility for them). The law is not equal at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 04:22 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subEither you're saying that women should not be held responsible for spermjacking men, or we're likely in agreement. Women should be allowed to control their bodily autonomy in an equal society. I am arguing that men (and women) should have equal protection from legal responsibility to other peoples decisions in the conception process. No control of women's bodies necessary for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 04:20 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subOk and I’m saying that if both parties consented to sex with each other they’re both now responsible for that mess and whatever comes of it. You've deliberately left out the choice of keeping the conception or not. I can appreciate that you appear to be 'pro life', and your partners likely benefit from your communication. Not all partners are pro life, and not all communicate. The law has to deal with all circumstances, regardless of beliefs. Ok so when she has sex she can shoot her eggs in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 04:14 AM |
| 2 | In defense of femininity. I’m really tired of seeing ultrafeminine habits get dismissed as “basic” (vent)I (a man) would just like you to know that I (and others) recognize and appreciate the considerable effort and time that it takes to maintain a traditional feminine appearance. I have always considered it "part of the bill" in that I might pay for dinner etc, but you're paying for consumable products for both our benefit. > Conversely, you’re also expected to be able to “hang” and eat large quantities junk food. I do not. I appreciate that you put effort into this consideration. > magically tran… | /r/RedPillWomen | 03/04/21 03:46 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subAnd plenty of them are single mothers because they chose to keep a pregnancy they guy did want. Yes, and this is shitty and those men should be held accountable. I support you in this 100%. They already can avoid paternal investment before the pregnancy even begins while still having fun sex. I have no idea what this is inferring. Not at all. As I keep saying. The man can have sex, control where you ejaculate and wear a condom. Now you're legislating how people have sex. This is pandora's box th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:35 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subI keep saying ejaculate inside for a reason. You know what the means and it’s why you keep conveniently ignoring the inside part. I'm not; I'm saying that ejaculation is not the only manner in which a woman gets pregnant during penetrative sex. The law needs to be clear for all circumstances. A woman can’t control when and where her eggs go. Sure she can, in the dumpster with the rest of the medical waste. This is a fallacy. Legally this is not considered rape in most places. To be honest I don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 03:18 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subWomen already have this discussion with men and I’ve never seen it work out. If he didn’t marry you chances are even if he says to keep the baby he’ll bounce temporarily or permanently when the child actually gets here. I’m not saying that it absolutely never works out but plenty of single moms are single mothers because they were silly enough to believe a man who begged her to keep the baby. Yes, they do, and sometimes those discussions fail. That is part of the risk you take in selecting partn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:41 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subPeople are shitty, and given the legal framework back then your grandpa should have been held accountable for this, you'll get no argument from me about that. Different times, different responsibilities, different rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:27 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subFrom listening to other men who say they can control it and biologically speaking men can. You can feel the climax coming and finish outside. Countless men do it. I’m aware pregnancy can occur from pre-come it’s why you also should wear a condom and spermicide too. You can have your fun without worry of knocking someone up. If both parties are responsible with their reproductive health pregnancy most likely will not occur. So many people have sex and don’t impregnated, get pregnant or have to ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:24 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subNot at all, I'm employed to make things, that doesn't mean I agree to sweep the floor. If you'd like me to sweep the floor, and I decide I'm not interested in that, either of us has the right to terminate that relationship. That's no different than prostitution. A sex worker can decide they'll do whatever they want with whomever they want for whatever compensation they want for it, and they're free to leave the arrangement if they like. It's no different, cash for labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 02:01 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subI don't think it is, I've participated in the process; it can be extremely difficult. The notion that men universally think that this is a flippant process is sexist. I'm really not here to argue that it's easy, that there isn't some level of responsibility shared, or that men should get the upper hand. When we determine that "choice" enters into an equation, if we're seeking equality, we have to make sure the requirements to make that choice, and its outcomes, as defined by the law, are as equi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:58 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subSo is sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:50 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThey’re not if you make the parents pay. Actually, lot's of parents are paying AND tax payers are paying. But this was a discussion about legal equality and the reproductive cycle, correct? And to be clear, if there was a moment in the pregnancy, before say, 30 days, or first trimester, whatever date the medical field felt appropriate, where a woman could approach a man and say: "I'm pregnant, I need to make a decision about whether to keep it or not. I need you to make a legal commitment to kee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:50 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subUm, how is equality a bitch? It's working out pretty fucking fantastic for me You don't have equality. No one would say the "the government should give gay men money so they can fuck straight men asses" I have no idea what this is supposed to be referencing. So I suppose I'll say: No one would say the "the government should give anyone money so they can fuck anyone's asses or other parts" without being torn to shreds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:33 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subYou made an incorrect statement, I corrected it for you. Fact's are important, you wouldn't like it if I said "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down" Because that wouldn't be true, now would it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:29 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subYou're boring; troll elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:26 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subMen have the right to choose. Men can engage in sex without siring any children. Abortion equalizes an innate biological difference between men and women. Men can have sex while controlling where and when they ejaculate. Women can’t do this with their eggs and ovulation. Their only options are to remain abstinent or face the consequences. Abortion put them on the same playing field as men. For reference, I dunno how this idea got into anyone's head, men cannot control when they ejaculate, they c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:26 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subI really hope you realize that "work for cash" is "trade body for currency". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:13 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subSure, it's my choice to make a gay onlyfans or not, my understanding is that they do quite well. I've chosen not to, but that's my choice. You're still looking for that magic unicorn to "get" me on. Equality can be a bitch, eh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Pseudo Crosspost; just thought some fellas might appreciate some facts I put together for the usual "men are dangerous to women" drivel.I cannot tell if this comment is being coy or not, being the internet. I do not believe the study referenced voluntary prison relationships. Involuntary (rape) would not apply anyways, as this was a study on partner violence. | /r/MGTOW | 03/04/21 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Pseudo Crosspost; just thought some fellas might appreciate some facts I put together for the usual "men are dangerous to women" drivel.I've coyly made the not-so-popular argument that one of two things needs to happen Men need to start killing more women to even the stats. Or There needs to be a campaign to keep men safer instead of women, since women are already so safe. | /r/MGTOW | 03/04/21 01:10 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subSo you don’t know that unprotected sex can potentially lead to pregnancy or stds? If you didn’t now you know. You can get STDs from shaking someone's hand, or kissing them. Be more educated. The priority is tax payers first and foremost. Why are tax payers paying for someone elses choices in the first place? The woman is made accountable for her womb just as the man is made accountable for his sperm. Incorrect; Women choose what to do with her womb, women choose what to do with his sperm. Except… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:06 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subI ultimately support whichever way things are legislated to go. If society goes in such a direction that abortion is outlawed, than we all have to adjust to those consequences. I would expect (and support) that women might be much more careful about who they sleep with, and what risks they take. If these women are to be held accountable, so to should the men; I'm not in any way advocating that men leave women with a burden they themselves don't have obligation to. That makes sense. On the other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 01:03 AM |
| 3 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subthe only choice that matters To you. To him the financial outcome might be the only thing that matters. A woman can be penetrated against her will. So can a man be ridden against his. A woman can be ejaculated in against her will. So can a man. A woman can be stealthed. So can a man. "I'm on birth control" when you're not. A woman can have a birth control failure through no fault of her own. So can a man, condoms can and do fail. You're looking for some magic unicorn fact that makes it so that w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:57 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subcognitive dissonance about what? The acknowledgement that two things being similar does not mean that they're equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:53 AM |
| 3 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subWell, it is female privilege, but I don't argue for equality. I think this garbage notion of "men and women are equal" is just going to keep causing problems. The goal should be compatibility and social happiness, but thats not what people are fighting for right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:51 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subApparently you've never heard of a 'wet dream' or 'premature ejaculation'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:51 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subI can't speak for other men, but no, I think its a terrible and painful process, both emotionally and physically. I think that no woman is happy to get an abortion. You're attempting to equate my comparison of equality as some sort of moral judgement towards the act of abortion. I support a woman's right to choose, through and through. I also support that as society is evolving, the same protections women get must apply as equally to men as they are capable of. You don't get freedom of choice wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:48 AM |
| 3 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subActually, right wingers aren't complaining that women aren't drafted, they're stating that society with 2 different shaped parts don't function in an equal manner. And I'm not what any right winger would want in their party, but nice try on the ad hominem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:41 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIf a man got an infection as a result of sexual intercourse that left him infertile, I would not suggest that we sterilize the woman, no. That seems like a strange connection to attempt to equate. The law can provide perfectly adequate protection; the only outcome that the law currently mandates lack of 'equality' is on the actual existence of a child; that's it. The functional "who should pay" is entirely fluid and malleable. I was adopted by my step dad at 10 years old; my other dad no long ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:39 AM |
| 3 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThe same thing was said when Women wanted to petition for the right to abortion. Should we stick to "you can just choose not to have sex, you know" and roll back abortion laws? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:35 AM |
| 1 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subThis is not really true, otherwise there would be no "premature ejactulation" stories. Men's bodys respond to physical stimulus the same way a women's body does. You're not suggesting that if a woman climaxes, she must have wanted it, are you? She knows there is a risk to sex that might produce a fertilized egg; she makes that choice. He makes the same choice. Why should she have options but not him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:33 AM |
| 3 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIf you know the outcomes of unprotected sex You don't know the outcomes. And the outcomes that might occur are 50% controllable. For some reason the "men should pay" crowd are having a really hard time admitting here that they don't want equal protection under the law, they want un-equal protection which benefits them and their right to choose, but strips another. Now, again, if we remove abortion as a legal right, implying that sexual intercourse has uncontrollable consequences, than I would fl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:31 AM |
| 3 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subWhy would you sterilize a man because a woman is having health issues? This is some strange red herring. No one is suggesting anyone be forced to do anything, literally the opposite. The law can certainly provide equal protection for men, they can be voluntarily stripped of any privileges' and responsibilities resulting from a pregnancy they took part in. And you still haven't answered the question, 2nd time. Should men and women have equal protection under the law during the process of child cr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:25 AM |
| 2 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subI think you've misread something; I didn't mention morality and abortion at all. I also don't presume it's anyone's go to or not, stop getting offended just for the sake of it. I asked if they believed should protect men and women equally in pregnancy and childbearing laws; that's it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:21 AM |
| 6 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subI think prostitutes would disagree on most of this. Anything can be commoditized. People have been selling buying and sex for security since the dawn of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:17 AM |
| 9 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very submen believe we are too weak Women fail the 3 pullup challenge to become marines at a rate of 55%. Women fail the physical challenges at a rate of 86%, compared to 3% of men. Women are in fact too weak, it's not a moral judgement; its a fact. That doesn't mean there aren't other places where a woman can serve effectively (and more power to you if you want to serve!), but Women are not equal, and no man wants to be injured and relying on a Woman who can't carry him back to save his life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:13 AM |
| 3 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subIf you willingly gave a woman your sperm you have made your choice. How is the same not true in reverse? Equality would indicate that if a Man is forced to accept the outcome of his sperm, than a Woman is forced to accept the outcome of her egg. Why could a man not say "if I knew you were going to kill my sperm, I wouldn't have consented to sex. You raped me". If you don't believe in abortion at all, I think that creates another discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:06 AM |
| 5 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subYou didn't answer the question. I agreed with you on the notion that women ought to have the right to control their body. I asked you, should men and women have equal protection under the law from unwanted pregnancies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/21 12:02 AM |
| 4 | It's morally inconsistent for women to dismiss male concerns as "life's not fair," which I've often seen on this very subSerious question, do you support women's right to abort a child but not a man's right? If men should not be able to make decisions for women (keeping aborting), why should women be able to make the same decisions for men? It's a perfectly reasonable stance that if a person wants to keep a child, they ought to be financially responsible for it. Freedom of choice doesn't mean freedom from responsibilities, it in fact means the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Pseudo Crosspost; just thought some fellas might appreciate some facts I put together for the usual "men are dangerous to women" drivel.Citations added for you! The reality is, women - being smaller, dumber, and weaker than men I haven't seen anything that suggests that Women are dumber. While I appreciate that there is a certain amount of "hurr durr women bad" because of this subreddit, its important that we actually use facts, because there are actual laws coming down the pipeline if this sorta narrative falsely continues to push the narrative that women are in a lot of danger from men. What I have read (and wikipedia reconf… | /r/MGTOW | 02/04/21 11:44 PM |
| 0 | Why?1? The only hypothetical I brought to the table was social framework, everything else was provided for the example in the previous post. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/21 08:59 AM |
| 2 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionOf these, 21 percent married within a year, and 59 percent of those still together went on to marry within 5 years. Oh, so you did, I musta missed that line. So 40% of unwed mothers will be single moms within 5 years. Fair enough. zero evidence most single mothers have attractive baby daddies. This would be an interesting study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionIf you have any sort of data on how many unwed parents with child go on to wed, I'd love to see them. This was where the term "7 month baby" phenomenon came from, as unwed parents were encouraged to marry. I've no idea where I'd look for the statistics for those who married afterward might be. As for my reference, it specifically implies that the traits necessary for women to have a satisfactory marriage are not the same traits necessary for bearing someone's children. Seems relevant and in supp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 05:36 AM |
| 2 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionI hope we can both agree that out of wedlock does mean much more likely to be a single mom. Its not really obsessive, its an acknowledgement that people are experiencing more of this than they have historically. As your text says: "In 1968, the first time the government recorded data on this trend, less than 1 percent of unmarried parents cohabited." Aka single moms. 21% of children belong to single moms, who are out in the dating field in force. If you're looking to date on OLD, this is a large… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 05:23 AM |
| 4 | “Divorce rape” doesn’t exist among normal people. And if it does happen, you probably brought it upon yourself.Just to be clear, is this the post saying that victim blaming is ok? Or is the message that we should downplay some abuses but not others? Message unclear. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/21 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionAlso, https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr48/nvs48_16.pdf Demonstrates a pretty significant rise in this phenomenon, from ~5% to ~33%; 1 in 3 children are born to unmarried women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 04:56 AM |
| 2 | The women that “Bad boys” pick up are also low quality like he is.Actual alternatives: Man can stop being mediocre, lower his standards to fuck lower tier women, or pay for sex. It is generally a bad thing when an average has to perform above average to win an average. If you were to suggest the same to women it would be "Misogyny" to suggest that a 5 should feel grateful for attention from another 5. Mediocre. Most women prefer relationships over hookups, so average looks is not enough to convince an average woman to hook up with him. While Women outrank men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Who here has had their views or stereotypes about other genders challenged or altered?I came because I was researching the topic as it related to something else. What I found was that overwhelmingly there is a disingenuous approach to facts on this topic by the more "left" folks, to which I have traditionally belonged. It has been the left, and not the right, who have refused to engage in conversation unless I was willing to whole-heartedly agree to 100% of their ideals, absolute insistence on an echo chamber. I'll admit I expected early on for it to be the exact inverse of that.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 04:17 AM |
| 1 | Who here has had their views or stereotypes about other genders challenged or altered?I thought unicorns were the chicks that like'd to be invited for 3-somes? I think you meant Frog Disney Prince. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 04:06 AM |
| 2 | The women that “Bad boys” pick up are also low quality like he is.Mediocrity doesn't make pussies wet. Yet the vast majority of men and women are mediocre. If a pussy doesn't get wet for a normal life, then the alternative is to fuck a dry pussy or give her an extraordinary life. The vast market cannot support the 2nd, and the 1st is "settling". Women are contributing to their own misery with these expectations. Now, what's his looks and personality? Assume he's a 5 guy all around, average looking, average personality, average paycheck (actually, 50k is nicely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 03:36 AM |
| 0 | Why?I think Peterson's point is that if a Woman is talking to a Man, and that man represents no possible threat, than she has no innate reason to respect him. People respect fear, fear of losing a material goods, fear of losing their freedom, fear of losing friendships, fear of losing romantic relationships, fear of being alone, etc etc. Fear of the unpleasant is humanity's #1 reason for acting in any particular fashion. The age old "love vs fear" debate around respect really fails to acknowledge th… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/21 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionPerhaps that's because anecdotal information is a reflection of those people's experiences, suggesting that a large portion of these people are having those experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 02:41 AM |
| 2 | The women that “Bad boys” pick up are also low quality like he is.If he's hot/charming, rich, or he dumpster dives, he'll get pussy. I think some of the complaints are exactly what you've described above, that if you're a regular average guy making normal money living a normal life, you're no longer getting much interaction at all. A $50k man should have no difficulty getting a $50k woman; but in the current environment, that's not reality. In the mean time, that same $50k woman will have no issues getting partners, and will, often being the side piece for an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 02:23 AM |
| 1 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionThanks for answering the other question! Lol. I wouldn't be surprised to see a functional bachelor tax for the childless men, but historically bachelor taxes often precede violent social turmoil. I can't say I'd blame a successful 'incel' as people are calling them, for not wanting to pay for someone elses kid via 40% taxation, like the Norwegian model. Given our current political direction, it seems very likely that this is the type of behavior we'll see; no one is pushing legislation or taxati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 01:45 AM |
| 3 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionYes that trend has grown, although goals change as people get older, and a lot of single moms I've encountered are the "Well I wasn't planning but we found out I was pregnant and..." or the "Well I thought once the kid came along his father would be more serious but he never grew up" types. Obviously anecdotes should be taken with a grain of salt, but young people who fuck around often end up with kids, and then can't pay the bills later. Very few young people I've met have even considered (let … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 01:32 AM |
| 8 | Study: Having an attractive partner makes no difference in a woman’s reported relationship satisfactionThere are actually revelant historical examples that suggest the opposite, that people would pick overweight partners as they were less likely to be laborers, and therefore more likely to have some measure of wealth. It is much more likely that partners are chosen based on perceptions of "success of my reproduction", but now that modern society has gotten rid of so many other factors (food, disease, etc), that there is but one factor left for men, physical appearance. Worth noting, the quantity … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/21 12:09 AM |
| 3 | To address the Gender Inequality on this Subreddit, all Misogyny is now BannedI pulled myself from homelessness to being worth 6 figures a year without anyone else; what have you done lately? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/21 01:42 PM |
| 5 | To address the Gender Inequality on this Subreddit, all Misogyny is now BannedDid men decide that women couldn't pass the 3 pull up challenge that all the men have to accomplish, so they lowered it for them? Men didn't choose to be expendable, nature did. Thousands of years of history and you don't read about the great women armies of anywhere. You don't wanna believe that misandry is real? That's fine, you don't have to believe in gravity either, but that sidewalk will still hit you in the face when you trip. Nature is sexist; get over it. Men are better at some things, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/21 01:37 PM |
| 2 | To address the Gender Inequality on this Subreddit, all Misogyny is now BannedHey, let me know when women get drafted. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/21 01:25 PM |
| 4 | To address the Gender Inequality on this Subreddit, all Misogyny is now BannedOh I thought this was just a "say stupid shit" moment we were having. Moment over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/21 01:19 PM |
| 1 | To address the Gender Inequality on this Subreddit, all Misogyny is now BannedNeither does misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/21 01:07 PM |
| 4 | To address the Gender Inequality on this Subreddit, all Misogyny is now BannedWill there be a similar post about Misandry? As moderators, is this an attempt to keep the tone neutral and welcome to all sides of the discussion? Per the wikipedia: Reddit - Wikipedia Statistics from Google Ad Planner suggest that 74% of Reddit users are male.[159] In 2016 the Pew Research Center published research showing that 4% of U.S. adults use Reddit, of which 67% are men. 78% of users get news from Reddit.[160] Users tend to be significantly younger than average with less than 1% of use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/21 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?Men Sentenced To Longer Prison Terms Than Women For Same Crimes, Study Says | HuffPost Study finds large gender disparities in federal criminal cases (umich.edu) Women Aren’t Always Sentenced By The Book. And Maybe They Shouldn’t Be. | FiveThirtyEight It would be easy to continue, but I think the point is made. >what do you propose as a solution then I think that people in general, but especially women, need to appreciate the differences between the genders. Men occupy more dangerous jobs, are u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 06:05 AM |
| 2 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?Did you notice, to the OPs point, that neither article you posted referred to men/boys? Women and Children kidnapped from village. Villagers burned. Women and children kidnapped from rest stop. Motorists burned. Its a fairly interesting point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 05:05 AM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.You made the distinct statement that women were simply now free to avoid settling, so I gave you a completely average person, and asked you to define your version of deserve, and your version of settle. If I were to give it a go, I'd say a 5 hopes for a 6, deserves a 5, and settles with a 4. The stats suggest that Women 5's want 6s and settle for 5s. Obviously no one particular person "deserves" anything, but I think its a bit unreasonable to suggest you can't give a response to a generalized qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 01:33 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Sure, but people working off books can never really be quantified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 01:28 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.The cost of many goods (like milk and bread) has indeed gone down, thanks to the efficiencies granted by industrializations and modern manufacturing processes, though that deflation has also impacted the quality and quantity of jobs. It would be great if CPI were tracked in any consistent manner, but it seems in the gov'ts interests to move it around often enough to suit them. A 1200 square foot home is not super common these days, as the average home built is somewhere around 2500 square feet. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 01:10 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Serious, non-sarcastic question. Would you be willing to describe, using a 1-10 scale, what an average '5' woman deserves from a partner, in earnings, and on an attractiveness scale, and what you would define as settling? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:59 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I suppose I wasn't clear in that an individual employed as a house cleaner is not economically the same as a person working for a company that cleans homes. The economic models are not the same. Daycare in general is also on the decline:Addressing the Decreasing Number of Family Child Care Providers in the United States (researchconnections.org) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:56 PM |
| 3 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I've been considering how to reply to your reply, because I think you touch a couple really important things. I'm not attempting to imply Capitalism is good or bad, or whatnot, or other political ideas are better or worse, I would just rather acknowledge them here for their functional mechanics. Socialism/Communism do appear to enable Feminism's largest weakness, it's inherent reliance on a men to enact the required changes. If feminism cannot get compliance from the government, you end up in si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:51 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Well, you haven't really illustrated anything in particular...so uh...? I do appreciate that we can disagree though, that's healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:32 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.The Foodie Call: Third of Women Admit To Dating For Free Meal, Research Finds (studyfinds.org) Another example that is a bit more than "not settling"; but weaponization of the very process itself, this is largely why TRP advertises always going dutch as a defense mechanism to this type of behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:26 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I think that those were not as economically advantaged jobs, those are jobs that don't even exist by today's standards in modern 1st world countries, unless they've been mass produced (such a dry cleaning type services). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:19 PM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I think you're well beyond that point when someone making 30k a year is demanding 6 figures because she's got some instagram followers and a nice butt. I'm all for both sides holding each other to accountability. The stats show that women have a much less balanced view on what rates as attractive than men do, men view women by and large on a pretty traditional bell shaped curve, women rate men on much more of a ski slope. Women aren't just "settling", they're "climbing". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:17 PM |
| 6 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Women make up nearly half of the labor force; share will remain steady in coming decades | Pew Research Center From roughly 1950 to 2010 or so, the % of women in the workplace went from 29.6% to 46.9%, a difference of 16.3%, or an increase of over 50% from their prior station. Similarly, men's make up of the workplace went from 70.4% to 53.1%, a decline of 17.3%. These are massive shifts in workforce participation rates. And by all means, blow it up! The purpose of a theory is to be tested and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 12:00 PM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Even in this time period feminism didn't have only economic reasons. It's not just that women don't want to do their share because men can't do theirs, it also has a good share of "we aren't okay with our role to begin with". I just want to be clear that I definitely don't believe it can only be looked at with an economic lens, I just saw little value in picking one particular issue and pointing at that, and economics doesn't seem to be one that many folks here discuss often. I also agree that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:47 AM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I would invite you to show up to some of these protests and attempt to rationally discuss the alternate points of view with the protestors. The Partisan Divide on Political Values Grows Even Wider | Pew Research Center | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:35 AM |
| 5 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Do you have any sources I could look at? Nothing I've seen suggests this is true. Here is an example: For most Americans, real wages have barely budged for decades | Pew Research Center And many things (like housing and higher education) are now so inflated, that many cannot get anything at all, or if they do they are saddled with debt for life. I do agree that American consumerism will have to curb to meet its actual wage earnings (or less, really) once the debt forces austerity-esque measures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:29 AM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.These are some great points. Child labor is an important thing to mention, and I didn't, so good on you for bringing it up. Pre-industrial society had a significant amount of child labor, though more often reserved for the commodity work (farming, mining, etc), and thus the need for 9-10 kids on a farm. I do believe I referenced women in the workforce in the 1950s, though more as a continuity of Women entering the workforce to meet WWII production needs, and then never leaving. not necessarily o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:08 AM |
| 6 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I don't think that feminism has strictly economical roots. The movement itself has started before the WWII I definitely agree with this! As I recall, it's modern form started around 1769. This post was merely meant to look at its very recent (100 years ish) history. As long as there aren't artificial wombs. Funny you would mention that: Scientists Created an Artificial Early Embryo From Human Skin Cells (singularityhub.com) They just don't produce rage/offensive content at the rate MGTOW do it. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 10:59 AM |
| 2 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.This is true, the notion that "women never worked" was largely for the better to do folks, however they weren't such an equal partner on the economic front until post WWII, and really it took another 30-40ish years after that (in the US). edit: and to be fair, it is very hard to quantify or find data for the approximate labor force value of a woman raising 9 kids on a farm, even though its very obvious she's valuable and contributes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 10:35 AM |
| 3 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I 100% agree with this, according to the stats I've seen, and this is also reflected in models farther along this route (Norway and Japan specifically) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 10:33 AM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.I think the whole "nonexistant home" is relevant to the recent glut ot FDS posts, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, would you be willing to elaborate? some posters say they expect a man to pay to prove he can provide for a home odds are nobody in that womans income bracket could ever afford. I think that's precisely the point, the purchasing power of the typically 22-35 year old man would not be enough for a family of 4 to live comfortably, and thus the requirement of the two income hous… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 10:31 AM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.Feminists hate men. Yet they still get wet from “strong” men and all that toxic masculinity they claim to hate so much. I think this is largely untrue, although it certainly is over presented that way. What I see as a non-member of these forums is that Women largely want Large, physically well built and well endowed men who are sensitive and willing to 'bend the knee' for sheer sake that they ought to recognize that they are the stronger sex, and "should" (implying morally) willingly give contro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 10:21 AM |
| 1 | The Modern Feminist/Redpill Struggle is Born of Economics and not Sustainable.It was a birds eye view of a larger problem as a whole, it was never intended to dive into any one particular facet. There are plenty of threads focusing on particular issues, yet few focusing on the larger scale, and none looking at the issue as an economics issue. Wide and shallow was in fact, the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 10:11 AM |
| 4 | Don't Engage With r/MGTOWBanSub. Important Reminder.The comments were like "it's not wife's right to provide sex in marriage, it's her body her choice" and "she can do whatever she wants, husband has no right to tell her anything." Yes, gentlemen. These were the types of comments, I was getting. This is perfectly true. It is also true that if the relationship sours because one party doesn't feel they're getting their needs met, they have every right to leave, men included. MTGOW rarely seems to suggest that anyone be forced to do anything, in con… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/03/21 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Why does sexual assault to boys get invalidated?Obviously it is possible, we can't exactly ask them. We can note however, that play and dominance are perfectly reasonable non-sexual behaviors, and we've no real reason to assume its sexual. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/21 07:57 AM |
| 1 | If men here are so bothered by educated and careerist women, why don't they date someone from a lower class?Norway is arguably of particular interest in this context because the country has for the last 15 years been declared “the most gender equal society in the world” by the United Nations (United Nations, 2017).Hence, using data from Norway facilitates an empirical analysis of hypergamy in an environment of relative gender equality, where labor force participation rates are roughly the same for women and men, and where men are not the undisputed breadwinners of the households. Number of observation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 07:11 AM |
| 1 | If men here are so bothered by educated and careerist women, why don't they date someone from a lower class?I encourage you to read the paper, because while I appreciate that you're trying to be considerate, you're not aware of the facts. There is a lack of income deficit levels in Norway between men and women across all income levels and job titles. Having children is NOT seen (or statistically evident) to affect earning outcomes in that model, which is where the study was performed. When the cost of child rearing isn't born by the parents to such a degree, and thus eliminates the economic incentive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 06:50 AM |
| 1 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyFDS is evidence & experience based and it works and has worked for generations of women. This is literally what is said on the TRP forums; I'm not attempting to be pejorative with you, it's verbatim. I don't really belong to either community, I've just been engaging both with similar questions. "cringe delusion at worst" I don't give a single fuck what these men think about me All I need to do in order to bag a rich, handsome, tall guy is to exist on the dating apps as a woman Nothing else is re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 04:43 AM |
| 0 | Pick Mes are not the female equivalent of Beta SimpsTo be clear, are you stating that if a man is satisfied with a non-financially equal relationship, it is fair for him to expect those other things in return? If all you offer is a pretty face and tan legs to go with your low wage job (this isn't directed at you per se), would you tell that woman that she ought to put out more if she wants a higher value guy? I think there are plenty of traditionally minded folks that are ok with exactly this arrangement, but it isn't exactly being included in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 04:32 AM |
| 1 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazySo to be clear, you're happy to just be the Woman equivalent of a Red Pill man? Do you think the majority of FDS folks realize that this is all they are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 04:21 AM |
| 0 | If men here are so bothered by educated and careerist women, why don't they date someone from a lower class?I didn't realize I hadn't, thank you for calling my attention to it. The paper shows that Women are generally marrying slightly upwards over time, and men marrying slightly downwards. Things are a bit more equitable at the top, obviously, where there isn't any higher to go, but shows that the same is not true at the bottom, where more men are partnerless than women. The data shows women would rather split "higher value" men with other women than "settle" with "lesser value" men. Because somehow … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 04:03 AM |
| 1 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyI agree with much of what you wrote, and I appreciate the quality of your reply. I think that some of your points are not "whole" Went to work But didn't (and don't) occupy the same amounts of dangerous jobs. Payed for shit But didn't pay the same amounts, some higher, some lower. I've never been to a night club where men got in free, but women didn't. Women also shouldn't be paying more for identical "but pink" deodorant. had casual sex This has been done for 1000s of years, it isn't really a t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 03:57 AM |
| 2 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyI think you're misunderstanding my intent; I'm far more interested in exploring the mechanics of 'equality' and the pursuit of it than I am in judging you for your choices, it sounds like you've got a lifestyle that is compatible with your values, more power to you. I really have no judgement for you. PPD is generally a debate forum between people who want "equality for women" and "equality for men"; but in my observances, I don't think either side actually wants equality. My comment/question (w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 03:28 AM |
| 1 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyI appreciate the back and forth, and I have but a single follow up question for you. If I were a man, and said all the same things that you did, you'd use a variety of denigrating terms to describe the behavior you'd find atrocious in me, but not in you. This is all fine and dandy in a world where you're able to defend that stance (or allowed that stance), and I think one could argue that the reason the 'male patriarchy' has remained dominant is entirely because they are able to defend that stan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 02:37 AM |
| 1 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyReading that I'd assume that the only solution you'd find reasonable is for men to essentially 'surrender' the first point; what does your plan call for if they're waiting for the same from you? A large portion of the back and forth as I see is that both sides want something to change from the status quo, and neither side wants to give the first inch. Historically speaking, force is the common "tie breaker" last measure in dispute resolutions, and I have it in my views (not arguing its morally c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 02:17 AM |
| 4 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyI'm going to just be blunt here. I don't give a single fuck what these men think about me. To be clear, is this the attitude that you would want from your partner? I don't put forth any more effort than required of me. Isn't that kinda the problem with the dating pool in general these day? Isn't that the biggest complaint about dating that the majority of the modern feminist movement has with how they feel they're being treated? That men aren't putting in enough effort? It seems to me that you'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazySo we're in agreement then, you're not actually asking for equality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 01:39 AM |
| 2 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyIn acknowledging the online dynamics (which I tend to agree with you on, as a pragmatist), do you ever consider your competitional value in relation to other women? I have a 6 figure income, drive nice enough cars, have a nice house, etc. If I reviewed your profile and that of the one next to yours, would it be obvious to me that you were working to bring value and compliment me? Would I be impressed by your profile over the next? Or would I look at your profile, as I've seen on many women on OL… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 01:25 AM |
| 1 | If women get pumped and dumped by men they approach, it's their own fault for not vetting those men first, and not approaching men because of the risk of getting pumped and dumped is just lazyJust to be clear, you would prefer that men be at a disadvantage than women, rather than putting everyone on an equal playing field? It would seem that if people are in pursuit of equality, they would look at dynamics that favor or don't favor them and attempt to balance them, not selectively maintain the parts that benefit them, but discard the parts that don't. To be clear, I don't think this is really an honest battle for equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 01:04 AM |
| 2 | This group seems to disagree about a lot of things due to inconsistency in definitions and perspectives about terms such as “slut” or “high n count women”.Fair enough, makes sense to me. I think it's kinda interesting that you appear to have recognized and partaken in the assertion that some RP content states, that the age/appearance of women holds an intrinsic value for women that they're able to leverage for economic purpose. I've considered what I would do in a similar situation as yourself, and the answer I came to every time was the exact same as yourself. Thanks for the back/forth, and good luck to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/21 10:41 AM |
| 1 | This group seems to disagree about a lot of things due to inconsistency in definitions and perspectives about terms such as “slut” or “high n count women”.Would you be comfortable sharing what it is that you're working towards that you consider both a pursuit of this career, and of voluntarily giving up relationships for? I'm interested to know if you're interested to share. If not, cool. Thanks for being willing to dialogue your less common perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/21 10:22 AM |
| 2 | This group seems to disagree about a lot of things due to inconsistency in definitions and perspectives about terms such as “slut” or “high n count women”.So to be clear, if some great match came along, and you were 10k away from your goal, you'd be willing to drop that goal if he was willing to meet that number? Is there a manner in which you'd be interested in "insuring" his risk to some degree? I appreciate your participation in this, I'm trying to understand the mechanics, if you will, of your perspective. edit: and to be clear, I have no judgement for what you do, you do you. I really am just interested to engage as your perspective as a sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/21 09:50 AM |
| 1 | This group seems to disagree about a lot of things due to inconsistency in definitions and perspectives about terms such as “slut” or “high n count women”.Genuinely curious, have you had partnerships or considered what you might choose in a partnership if you met someone who was interested in you but wasn't interested in being with you if you continued this profession? Are there metrics you've considered that might cause you to be willing to forgo this career if a prospective partner came and said "here are the X things I offer, this is what I need from you" type question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/21 07:45 AM |
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