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Call it a curse of the INTP but this sorta explains my lack of decisiveness so well... cute scene, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 03:49 AM
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If anything I'd think trp would claim chads are the biggest victims of this because they say those are the men who get ONSs in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 03:01 AM
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I think you're just imagining it a weird way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:59 AM
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That's part of the fun though...he cues me up to respond as with all things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:54 AM
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I guess I'm more shallow than that or can't picture appropriate examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:51 AM
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I have a stuffed Dopey at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:49 AM
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Isn't that what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:47 AM
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Not if said in the same context/tone really
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:47 AM
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Yeah so no. You should feel bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:46 AM
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What? I'm just pointing out that ugly guys aren't the only victims of this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:45 AM
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I don't think "we" established that. Maybe link me to where you did so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:42 AM
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This is always my question too. It seems so natural to meet someone I love halfway with almost anything... like I give zero fucks about dishes and cleanliness but I do it every day for somebody I care about if they just ask me to. Only takes a few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:37 AM
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Do you think men are honest about a girl being too fat or something? If so, that's adorable. If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:29 AM
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I think that's kinda generous... how are you supposed to tell which is which? What's an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:23 AM
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Yes you see differences between all kinds of people lol. You're probably subconsciously racist too!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:22 AM
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Didn't everyone's mom talk about gold diggers and baby trappers? Not like my brothers listened lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:20 AM
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Well I think you're funny and could possibly really work with the right woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:16 AM
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On what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:10 AM
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I have a hard time believing any jury would consider a rape case if there was evidence that the girl repeatedly assured that she liked what was happening
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:10 AM
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It seems like the most normal thing in the world to me for a guy to want verbal assurance that I'm enjoying what's happening
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:08 AM
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Like what else are we saying to each other if not saying how good the other person feels? Honestly I swear this is most of sexy talk
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:02 AM
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I'm sure that's true. Still completely disproves his claim that these rules are only applied to nerdy unattractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:58 PM
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It's not even like a permission/validation thing... in my experience guys really just like knowing that you're enjoying what's happening
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:52 PM
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I don't want to sound gross but I seriously just think it's super normal for a guy to say "ya like that??" in the midst of sex...it's definitely not like he's asking permission, I feel more like they get off on my enthusiasm lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:49 PM
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No I didn't watch it lol. I linked you a fun one though! Obviously I agree that it's TERRIBLE if it's awkward and forced!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:46 PM
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No one is saying this is hot lolz *btw that's a very mainstream show making fun of it..trp thinks women suppress this stuff, the show was written by a woman and is very popular
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:43 PM
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Lol no I'm into like uneducated farmers and plumbers who might not shower daily. The point of smurfys comment is that it can be and is hot. Seriously it just is like par for the course for me, in a good way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:40 PM
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Why would men like you marry a virgin and yet "lol" at a non-virgin wanting marriage hmm? It's almost like people don't want the exact same behaviors from every single person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:33 PM
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You think girls aren't lied to with the same things? You could never speak openly about women's downfalls? Like fuck right off. That's not normal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:31 PM
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Don't you know about gender differences and that men are big scary and mean??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:27 PM
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What is it then ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:26 PM
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My brothers and dad express extreme disgust after anything like that has ever happened to them...like it's disgustingly insulting to them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:24 PM
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Obviously I'm not in favor of that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:22 PM
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Honestly I do oppose these laws and think false accusations warrant prison time.. I'm merely disagreeing that it doesn't happen to hot guys. Even that Stanford kid was probably a real good looking dude.. and those lacrosse kids from Duke? Those are athletes man, super hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:21 PM
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How would you even prove that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:15 PM
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I feel like this is literally a staple of any sexual experience lol... I wanna say almost 100% of times I've had sex, the guy has asked "you like that?" or some variation. It sounds awkward typed out but it's like the most normie hot thing to do...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:12 PM
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What like a constant "yes" sound the entire time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:11 PM
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But like are we arguing about what op should feel ok with? Are we debating some rule that should be universal for the benefit of society? Because I may have different answers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:08 PM
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Not clever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:07 PM
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Same here champ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 11:06 PM
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Isn't it even a trp idea that men's attractiveness is much more under their control (i.e. looks is only one part)? And don't they think women want to be loved for the things men are loved for? Answered your question for you, from the side bar. *If unclear: I'm saying from TRPs own perspective, women see their own love as more pure because it is based on things other than looks, and they want men to love them in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 10:59 PM
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Literally never heard it lol and I have plenty of female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 10:56 PM
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It seems that putting shit on your face is gonna fuck with it. As if it will develop a tolerance and stop knowing how to look cute by itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 06:57 PM
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How
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 06:16 PM
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Dish washers are huge loud machines!! It's not about the price it's like do we have room in our lives for this? Just checking Literally would not bring home a FREE dishwasher because what if it's the wrong kind and now I have to get rid of it somehow??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:26 PM
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Women are essentially ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:14 PM
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Right lol. And I don't know a fucking thing about dish washers I'd probably call my mom before buying one since I don't have a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:05 PM
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I'd also check with the person I live with before making a purchase for our home, it's just common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:02 PM
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There's like at least 4 posts by women on the front page of that sub right now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:23 PM
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I mean it doesn't matter lol I'll just blame it on her husband dead bed rooming her!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:57 PM
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Nah I don't think so. Even if written by a normie, they obviously knew what they wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:55 PM
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Well yeah lol...so we deny that meme was likely made by a RP/incel/4chan type
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:45 PM
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Still I don't see the lol factor Guess that's just me vs you Maybe you're pointing out preselection in men? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:36 PM
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I think mrs Robinson was a widow? Either way I don't see the point of the lulz
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:33 PM
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Because hot rich older women cheating on their BB husbands fits so neatly into the RP/incel view. They think that is what happens, so it's not surprising or funny to see that represented in such an image.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:30 PM
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I got the sense that the OP (and people who attribute outcomes to socialization) are mostly talking about influences other than those that come after reaching adulthood. Even so, I would say that stuff you mentioned is rarer than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:22 PM
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Yeah I've heard both: older women are all bitches/ older women are all chiller than you I've recently laid out my theory about women which hasn't much to do with age. But anyways, some will be bitches when they're 16 and when she's old her kids will complain about seeing her once a year whereas some gradually go from the favorite baby sister of her family to everyone's favorite grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:17 PM
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Uhhh zero percent surprising when it's clearly not made by women or "BP types"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 07:13 PM
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Yeah I was going to guess from what I've read that this message picked up traction like 5-7 years ago. Even if a school is technically providing more opportunities for girls, I don't think it's being advertised to them the way lots of guys describe it here. I think it takes longer than a few years to change the underlying attitudes of teachers who have often been around for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:32 PM
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If someone wants to debate feminism they should go to one of the appropriate subreddits like r/askfeminists or r/femradebates (not actually sure if accurate links because I don't often care to argue about feminism)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:12 PM
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As such that's not really a great example of what OP is talking about, because there's no "we were told we couldn't do this" narrative anymore. If anything, the narrative for young women today is "here, do STEM, take my money!". This attitude must be extremely new I don't think I saw any of it growing up. The scholarships may have been there but IME, teachers and counselors and parents and the media and other authorities weren't encouraging girls into these fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:25 PM
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We didn't say that already-attractive women would become more attractive, only that there wouldn't be fat women anymore. If Chad finds woman above a certain threshold attractive, and now more women are above that threshold, doesn't he just have more to choose from now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 07:35 PM
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Wouldn't that just mean more women on Chad's radar?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 07:05 PM
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they'd eventually HAVE TO start getting with the ugly guys Would they be attracted to the ugly guys though? Sounds like settling which = DB as we all know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:32 PM
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And women prefer to date up. Leaving a lot of men with terrible choices. So if a fat woman (let's call her a 3) sees dating a skinny 5 as an acceptable fulfillment of her hypergamy, and that woman became skinny (making her a 5), the guy would no longer fulfill her hypergamous needs. He wouldn't gain a skinny woman that he gets to bang, he now has one less option to bang at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:27 PM
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Skinny doesn't necessarily mean hot on a guy, fat girl may be his equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:14 PM
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No. According to red pill descriptions of the SMP, wouldn't it give lower value guys more options they can't fuck? If a guy can only score a fatty now, what makes him think he could score that same girl if she were thinner? Why would women's standards stay they same if their attractiveness went up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:05 PM
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I don't think so...sounds like instead of being angry that he has to fuck really fat girls, he'd just end up angry that there were so many more attractive girls who didn't want to fuck him. If the average chubby girl doesn't want to fuck him why would an average thin girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 03:37 PM
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If the average girl became someone who is in good shape she wouldn't be more likely to want that guy though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 07:43 AM
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I also wonder which is worse. I'm not sure it has to do with smartness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:40 AM
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Only never to be looked at again
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:34 AM
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Yeah like age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:32 AM
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Those are all obviously casual sex, the vast majority of people understand casual sex to be outside of a committed, exclusive relationship. This is OP's definition. Getting official commitment of exclusivity before having sex seems to me like it would only happen among the very religious or very young. Idk about where you are but here the relationship progression usually seems to go from "they hooked up - they're hooking up - they're not together but they're talking - they're together/dating/exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:15 PM
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People's personal experiences and observations differ a lot on this subreddit. Like in some places, apparently fat women date and marry hot chads. In other places, sluts are shunned as marriage material and inevitably turn into cat ladies. I'm sure in some places, casual sex isn't as accepted and pervasive as it has been in my experience. Almost every relationship that I'm aware of (within my age group) began as a casual sex thing before it was a relationship. No one is like making you say you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:33 PM
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Blue pill sloot whaddup I live in a liberal state, went to a large public college and ~80%+ of my friends regularly had/have casual sex when single. Like atlas said though they're still interested in and open to a relationship with the right guy. Lots paired up in school or since.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 08:10 PM
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Yep that's the one! I still have the copy I stole from my school library as a kid (oops). I completely agree with his ideas on this too. I'm lucky enough to come from a tight-knit and large extended family and it's easy to imagine wanting to fill that with something else if it wasn't there. I think most people see romantic partnership as the answer to that. Meanwhile I feel as though I'll never be alone even if I wanted to ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 09:23 PM
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Do you believe in mandated child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 06:14 PM
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People expect too much out of their romantic relationships. Kurt Vonnegut said most arguments with a partner boil down to, "You are not enough people!" We say things like "he/she is my everything" but no one can be everything for anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 06:07 PM
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Not sure if perfectly related but I always found it contradictory here how a single generation of feminism could supposedly completely "betafy" and "masculinize" the men and women of the world through messages from authorities and the media, yet the notion that similar influences were a cause for female behavior (supposed lack of performance in male-skilled areas) in times before feminism is rejected as just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:33 PM
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Your definitions are way off. Alpha and beta are both masculine. It is considered traditionally masculine to be honorable and to provide for a family. Those are beta masculine traits. They are NOT feminine traits. They are associated with men. "Beta" and "feminine" mean different things. A beta man isn't going to literally act like a woman, and nobody would say being a provider for your family is feminine. "ALPHA" describes what makes men physically attractive, not the word "masculine." There wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:16 PM
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That makes sense. A more Passive woman is going to be easily intimidated and avoidant of social power games.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:11 PM
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I also let him watch my favorite girly stuff with me on Netflix and I helped him kick some nasty habits like watching porn and hanging out with his friends! I'd only do that for a guy I really loved <3
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:45 PM
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Yeah I think it's advice that is given under the assumption that the wife is going to be doing a lot to help the man and the family overall and putting up with a lot of bullshit so you know "keep her happy she's running your whole home life" actually sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:35 PM
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But look at RPW. Some women are willing to do this, and they say it's what makes them the happiest they could be. But they prioritize their husband's happiness over their own, and probably would prefer him to be happier than she is. Most women don't even want that from a man, they prefer egalitarian relationships at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:29 PM
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I was just kidding don't be broken!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:28 PM
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Ever been married?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:26 PM
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Look I think women LOVE being moms that wasn't the point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:24 PM
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If a woman is doing it right, sex can be much more awesome for the guy. More awesome than it can be for it can be for a woman, or more awesome than sex he has in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:24 PM
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while it's perfectly socially acceptable to encourage men to defer to women, the opposite would pretty much get you flayed alive. Yet the same people who condone this gynocentric dynamic are absolutely adamant that they're egalitarians. I already addressed the possibility the egalitarian relationships are not mutually beneficial. Lots of them certainly go in the woman's favor (BUT MY DENIAL?!). I think you guys ignore the fact that while it is not acceptable to say that you are a traditional fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:23 PM
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I am saying that the BEST POSSIBLE marriage a man can experience is going to be more enjoyable and beneficial to him than the best possible experience of marriage that a woman can have. I am not talking about the "typical marriage" or one where he is some SAHD or not allowed to watch porn. Read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:16 PM
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Why would the stay at home parent be the one to provide the most happiness to their partner? I believe this position has the most potential to provide happiness for a partner. Think about relationships in which the wife is purely in a support role for her husband. It's assumed that she gives up her goals in pursuit of his. Let's look at RPW for example - they would literally prefer for their husbands to be happier than they are. Whereas: Personally at least, I'd rather stay at home, or have both…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:12 PM
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But you're blaming lack of social acceptability for that, and we think that's bullshit. Can you please read again what I wrote? I said most women DO NOT WANT this EVEN IF it were socially acceptable. Then u/dakru brought up the one point that it was socially acceptable, which doesn't really derail my point even if it were true. Please read my post again with this in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:07 PM
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Even if true it doesn't negate my point. Just like it doesn't matter if most men don't care about their partner enjoying sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:05 PM
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like she can literally shake r/quiver NSFW
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:29 AM
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A boyfriend gets the honor of paying for all my stuff and listening to me talk about my feelings. I keep the sex super special for him by keeping it super infrequent. I would never give those privileges to a FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:23 AM
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They say that a woman is happiest submitting to a man (playing the RPW role - their goal is their own happiness I assume) but it seems to me like that role entails still putting his happiness over their own. Which means in the happiest possible arrangement for a woman (according to RP), the husband is still happier than the wife. It becomes a bit of a roundabout thing though because making him happy is what makes her happy and all that but I think the idea is that the woman would actually want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:30 AM
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That's why I said that in my post. I don't think most women want to be the powerful one in a marriage with a husband in the supportive role. I think egalitarian is at the top of the scale for how much power most women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:08 AM
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What? How could it be? It's something I hear all the time. I'm surprised you haven't as well. Even if you are correct that non-orgasmic sex feels better for men than for women, I still posit to you that the best female orgasmic experience felt better than the best male sexual experience. Compare how often men and women report a casual sex encounter wasn't worth it. Way more common to hear from women. This is why I specified in the OP that I am not talking about how often sex or marriage is bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:06 AM
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RP does say that "egalitarian" is code for "she's the boss" but wouldn't they also say that she isn't really happy in that scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 12:38 AM
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Yes I meant the social acceptability of a SAHD type arrangement. I don't think the woman focusing on her career while the man stays home is seen as close to normal. I think the most "power" that the majority of women want is that which comes with an egalitarian relationship, in which I assume both people benefit equally and are equally happy (for the sake of simplicity). As opposed to men who seem to be more open to the idea of someone acting purely in a support role for himself. edit - wording
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 12:27 AM
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Your description of sex ("entire time feeling amazing"..."don't even care if I orgasm") is more common from women, in my experience. I believe a man has the best potential deal from having kids. This is largely from my own observation of parents and what makes the most sense to me. A man can have a loving mother do the dirty work of child rearing for him and he gets the respect, adoration, of love of an amazing and huge family that looks up to him and goes by his name, while putting in less effo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 12:19 AM
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I'm talking about the arrangement where a man basically takes over the stay-at-home parent role, taking care of everything that the hardest working wife does. I don't think that's really socially acceptable yet. I think advice like you mentioned actually stems from the assumption that the wife is doing a lot of work for the benefit of them both. People will also give advice or joke about keeping "his stomach full and his balls empty" or you hear "behind every great man is a great woman" but neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 12:12 AM
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I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 11:21 PM
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Self-centered, self-interested This will lead to the woman caring more about her appearance, doing more to get attention, and just generally seeking out to benefit herself in her relationships. Without at least a little of this, the woman would never get anything she wants. Revealing in dress, promiscuous, overtly flirtatious and sexual; physically attractive This is just silly to claim that this is more of a male thing than a female thing. This is talking about the female form of seduction. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:48 PM
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I don't think most people consider vanity, materialism, drama, or skillful social manipulation to be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 11:58 AM
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Her value to you maybe won't increase but she will have more sexual success
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 11:54 AM
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Some of those traits would increase a woman's SMV directly and others will do so indirectly by increasing her social status which would mean she meets more men and gets more sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 11:50 AM
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I have my own thoughts on this but I am first curious as to whether you think the same applies to beta vs alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 10:00 AM
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I'm blue pill. This is like a meta-analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 09:55 AM
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Can you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 09:54 AM
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Idk, sometimes I just use different words that mean the same thing to make sentences less boring. Either wording works!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:30 AM
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There will be overlap in masculine and feminine qualities but expressed in different ways. For example, "sees sex as transactional" is beta, but the beta male version of this is "willingly offers money and commitment in exchange for sex" instead of "uses her sexuality to gain money and commitment."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:21 AM
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Well I am adopting some red pill beliefs for this post. As I explained elsewhere, my thought process here is "accepting TRP is accurate in categorizing the alpha/beta dichotomy of male behavior, and accurate about how women commonly act, including ideas of traditional femininity, they are still oversimplifying by saying AWALT because within their own ideas is a alpha/beta-like dichotomy of female behavior." So the extreme "active" (female version of alpha) woman would be a gold digger. No one wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:33 AM
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I think that naming akin to type A or B personalities would be better, with arbitrary names. Yeah I totally struggled with the names and should have gone with this. I said elsewhere that I thought of calling them nonsense names. That may have avoided some confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:21 AM
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I thought of another: Active - victim mentality Passive - always blames self (low self esteem)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 11:33 PM
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I knew it!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 11:29 PM
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Well you said "display traits" so I responded with the synonym "act." I know women who genuinely have the "passive" reactions to things. Not just because she is monitoring her behavior; it's her initial instinctual feeling. A self-centered, vain, attractive, attention-seeking, extroverted woman is going to spend more time on her appearance, more time seeking positive attention for her appearance, more time going out socializing while looking hot and getting attention that way, meet more guys, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 11:20 PM
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Oooh I gotcha. It's more that I think AWALT is a poor generalization when I can recognize a pattern very similar to alpha/beta for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 11:16 PM
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As to your first point, of course people can change and switch strategies in different situations. This was meant to correlate with the red pill idea of alpha and beta, and everything you said relates to those concepts as well. I wrote this to fit into that model in which individuals will possess traits of both and display different behaviors based on context, even though I may not believe that human behavior can be so simply organized. This post is me thinking, "if TRP were correct and I accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 11:14 PM
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That definitely wasn't the point I was going for! That kind of direct communication would be considered masculine and I wanted to focus only on female/feminine behaviors. We could extrapolate and discuss which listed behaviors are more or less effective to a woman in different situations but this was more just to try to categorize the seemingly opposite behaviors that are commonly attributed to femaleness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 10:40 PM
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Well I do know women who primarily act in that way, and many of active traits obviously do attract sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 10:32 PM
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Which parts sound super judgy to you? These are sort of extremes, like how the majority of "beta" men aren't doormats but an extremely beta man is. Much like alpha and beta, I didn't want to frame them as inherently good or bad but rather think that they will serve different functions in a given situation or relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 10:18 PM
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I thought for this reason it was appropriate to start with "active" females being self-centered or self-interested, although it's not the exact same attitude (the female version still more concerned with external perceptions). Being self-interested is not traditionally "feminine" (nor masculine) but RP does seem believe it fuels much of female behavior and nature which is how I probably should have phrased my post (sry u/shoup88). To give an example that came up elsewhere that I think matches yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 09:50 PM
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Thanks and agreed! Theoretically she is as elusive as the perfect alpha/beta combination...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 09:20 PM
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I think there are overlaps for sure (alpha/active is both self-interested; beta/passive are romantics), and I can see how one could view them that way, but I don't think it's the case. I think women do exhibit traditionally masculine traits but I tried not to include those on my list (confidence being an exception). I don't think being dramatic, socially manipulative, and materialistic are traditionally associated with masculinity. RP theory is that women are naturally like that but we socialize…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 09:09 PM
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Yeah I can't change the title though. What's your take if you mentally change it to "female behavior" for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:57 PM
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Well I put on my red pill hat for this and based most of my descriptions on accepting the claims 1) that many modern women act in that way, and 2) that it may be in their nature to do so. Rape isn't "traditionally masculine" but we can observe that it is a male behavior and call it "alpha." Using one's sexuality for gain may not be considered traditionally feminine but if we accept observations that women behave like that, and/or that it is in their nature to do so, we can then categorize it. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:47 PM
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I think seduction is associated with femininity. If we can fit murderers into a branch of masculinity (alpha) I think we can categorize the world's oldest profession under femininity (active).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:33 PM
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Why'd you go with active and passive instead? I wanted to use alpha and beta but knew people would get caught up on those words so passive/active are kind of just close-enough filler. I could've called them oogly and boogly traits. Yup Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:20 PM
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I'm not talking about being aggro like a guy though. The active feminine woman knows what she's doing and makes "demands" like you said. A more passive woman, OTOH, may "give it up" simply out of being too soft and unable to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:16 PM
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but then again even if they are contradictions, it does not necessarily mean that individual will have both of those traits. Well just like contradicting masculine traits are put into different categories (rage is alpha, self-control is beta, but both are masculine), I am proposing that there is a similar breakdown between opposing feminine qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:12 PM
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I did think about calling them dominant/assertive vs submissive traits. Nope, as both groups of women will act as expected for their group to act. Are you saying you agree with my categorizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:07 PM
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I think advertising one's sexuality for gain is considered to be a feminine act.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:05 PM
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Power-seeking vs peace-seeking...that makes a lot of sense, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:02 PM
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No it would be obvious to me that he knew exactly what would result from his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:19 PM
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Nah. I'd assume that my intelligent and educated coworker knew exactly what he was doing and expected to get fired. Not upset whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:19 PM
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Your girl definitions don't really describe a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:18 PM
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He had to have known what would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:18 AM
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Why would someone be upset by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:04 AM
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It does make sense that a RP MGTOW would hold evidence of this idea about women so prevalently in his mind like you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:45 PM
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I get the reference to the old line "we don't date men, why would we care what they do" but I've only ever seen that with regards to how men behave within relationships with women, not as an admittance that women are more perceptive of the male population in other observable ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:44 PM
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I don't see why lack of sexual interest in a group would prevent someone from making a basic observation about that group. Even a child (of either sex) can likely think of several fat dads they know, or at least say that they have seen/met fat dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 09:48 PM
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I agree that being a bitch is not a mental illness but I disagree if you're saying all women are annoying like that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 09:33 PM
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Source? Evidence? Factual basis??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 09:08 PM
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Why would that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:54 PM
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She is clearly talking about herself not about corporate deal makers ability to score
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:09 PM
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And the guy wants to fuck the strippers he sees... why is it worse for a woman to get to fulfill her need to feel desired? The action doesn't really matter anyway, it's that both are attributing the reason behind it to somebody else. Equal example: "Men/women are good, they normally wouldn't cheat if women/men didn't basically force them to (by withholding sex/attention/whatever)." Going to a strip club or going to a club as a woman aren't typically considered but I thought they were close enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:05 PM
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As long as you'd say the same about a woman claiming she wouldn't have gone out to flirt with guys the other night if her husband had just validated her enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:45 PM
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You said that if he was feeling validated by his wife then he would probably not go to a strip club. This implies that his wife's failure to validate him causes him to go to a strip club.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:47 PM
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Blaming his actions on his wife
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:32 PM
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If this were true why would it be "absurd" at all? Men love being treated like alphas and hate seeing women treat other men like alphas. You're describing envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:25 PM
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And anyway.... if he was feeling fully validated at home... he probably would not frequent a strip club . Classic 'men are wonderful' hypoagency
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:23 PM
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Most men and women don't seem to question things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 05:59 PM
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If I were to think about it in those kinda terms I mean most people in general aren't worth being a priority in my life, from MY perspective, nothing to do with what they deserve in their own life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:16 AM
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I remember reading a post on RPW about how to limit ones hypergamous instincts the same day that I read a post on MRP about how to tap into and indulge the polygynous ones that this guy didn't even believe he had. Both seem to feed into male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:44 AM
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I know that, but at the same time I have seen they believe it is inherent in female nature to nag, manipulate, and bitch and complain. They agree with trp about female nature. My understanding is that they believe feminism has exacerbated these qualities*, turning all women into dreadfully unpleasant shrews who want to control everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:34 AM
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Encouragement to be nice accommodating non confrontational people pleasers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:26 AM
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You're basically just saying a red pill mindset works for women too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:15 AM
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I get the impression that RPW encourages fighting ones nature whereas TRP encourages embracing theirs. This seems to assume that all men are naturally awesome at being men and husbands that women would love and just need to shed society's control to reveal their true selves, while women are naturally annoying shrews that men would have no natural interest in being around or marrying unless they repress their vapid feminine urges (to nag and bitch) at every turn. I know many women exist who would…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:11 AM
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I thought your comment was misused here. When I read it I related to it. It's not like there is some objective standard of men who deserve to be with me based on meeting certain criteria. There is simply a small portion of people that I like and get along with well enough for me to want to make them a priority in my life, while there is also what I imagine to be a small pool of people who would feel that way about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 04:32 AM
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I gave you a chance to give a balanced definition but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:16 AM
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You can't write ten words the way you did to describe a BP relationship? Come on man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:54 AM
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Can you describe a RP relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:42 AM
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This post is as wrong as it is long.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:23 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6s70yd/comment/dlawlyv?st=J62VQ185&sh=3682838b Was this a serious response as to what a BP relationship looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:00 AM
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So your definition of a BP relationship was serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:53 AM
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Your definition of a BP relationship wasn't serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:35 PM
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I haven't seen any examples of Barack talking down to Michelle in front of others, he doesn't have that reputation. I haven't seen evidence that he looks at her like a footstool or dictates to her or cheats on her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:29 PM
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You forgot letting her peg you while you scrub the kitchen floor. What's an RP relationship then? That with the genders reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 10:05 PM
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I mean he said money (medical expenses) was a logical reason to avoid fat women so why the fuck is it shallow for a woman to care about it? (Sorry, just arguing to you further since I doubt he will reply haha)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:52 PM
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How was he an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:28 PM
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One of them is a red pill idea but they would disagree with "some women"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:26 PM
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Pretty much whatever women select for is shallow. Why? Why isn't it considered "smart" to select for someone who could better provide for you and your children?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:20 PM
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How did that happen to you after college?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:13 PM
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What does a BP relationship look like? edit: I guess other than "giving up presidencies" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:58 PM
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How so? This perception doesn't create more work for women, or pressure them into accepting a role they don't want. I believe it does. I believe that by insisting that "moms have the hardest jobs" you are implying that any woman who willingly becomes a mother is knowingly taking on "the hardest job" and assuming that she expects and agrees to her job being more difficult than that of her partner's. It implies that being a mom inherently means you will have more responsibilities than a dad does -…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 07:48 PM
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Feminism has become way too broad for me to understand or even try to defend, so I won't. But from my POV, being assumed to be the primary caretaker with the more difficult job is not good for women. That's why I can't understand feminism supporting this position. Thinking women should have default custody of kids after a divorce also seems clearly anti-feminist to me; and again, because it's bad for women, not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:21 PM
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Who else is pushing that narrative? Well by asking if it is for sure feminism that is pushing it, I was hoping you could provide some information showing that it is. I question it because I would think the feminist inclination is to reject that narrative because it encourages the assumption that the mom will (and should) always be taking on a harder role than the dad (even if both work full time) which is a belief that I'd prefer that men of my generation didn't grow up with, were my goal to dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:16 PM
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I saw something on r/INTP once that basically stated (wrt relationships): you're not competing with every man/woman in the world to be with me...you're competing against how much I enjoy being by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:54 PM
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Depends on your thoughts about female sluts vs male ones
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:49 PM
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This is what I think too. It's not attractive men that are difficult to find. It's ones who are compatible enough with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:35 PM
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Is it feminism that mostly says "motherhood is the most difficult job in the world" though? The author of the article is a feminist and she disagrees. I get the sense that saying "moms have the toughest jobs" is a way of acknowledging the importance of raising functional healthy children while encouraging women to take on their traditional role which is not valued monetarily or "respected."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:26 PM
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I'm the sort of person who believes we should sterilise people for free upon their request with as little waiting time as possible, and laugh at them when they ask for help to pay for reversing it. I don't understand. Why would people want reversals? Why would it be funny to charge more than they can pay in order to reverse an operation that the government had afforded them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:12 PM
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We just hang out with each other, talk about our shared interests and personal lives, encourage each other by getting pumped on our ideas and setting goals like future vacations we'll take together, watch tv, play games, go to places and events, party, bullshit etc. They have done nice things for me like including me in their fun times, buying/making me food and drinks, acting generally protective, giving me pep talks, letting me crash and move in with them, teaching me to drive, etc. I apprecia…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 02:14 AM
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I remember that too. I mean in high school people even in their twenties seemed kinda scary like definitely a different more grown up category of human Do 30 year olds not look as old to you now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:22 PM
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Yeah, for example I know women who had sexual relationships with multiple men during the same period of time, when they could have just rejected all but the objectively best one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:18 PM
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You're right not many men like grandad around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:16 PM
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It's just what I've generally observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:07 PM
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Are you saying that is true of all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:05 PM
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Isn't that more a generalization of men than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:44 PM
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Why would I wish that were true?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:39 PM
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Are they more or less likely than an experienced man to care about age and virginity?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:14 PM
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Incels generalize women too Edit: and you initially disagreed with me that TRP does this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:12 PM
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Yes I already know those things. I don't see your point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:10 PM
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But TRP generalizes women based on the fact that they are a woman. They don't only shit on the ones who are too picky or who act like pricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:58 PM
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You did use the word "just," actually. I was repeating the RED PILL belief that teenage women are the most attractive to ALL MEN. So take it up with trp for calling men pedophiles
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:57 PM
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TRP has been pretty consistent in saying that the youngest women ARE the sexiest ones, and that virginity is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:47 PM
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It's weird that you're getting hatred out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:46 PM
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And what exactly is "out of their control"? Being female
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:45 PM
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I didn't say they JUST want virgins and I don't believe it is pedophilia
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:44 PM
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I think men do the same thing. In theory they want the youngest girl possible and when they see a hot woman they often assume she is young. How old are you btw? Jw
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:43 PM
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You're the one who made assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:42 PM
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Right they just generalize 50% of the population based on something out of their control And I never said ALL incels or anything like that did I? I think I said they are "more likely to," not anything absolute
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:29 PM
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TRP says women want a "natural"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:26 PM
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Really? How/why would I ever meet one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:25 PM
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No I totally understand that. I disagree with trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:24 PM
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"Incels just want virgins" "Incels are pedophiles" Except that I said neither of those things, or anything hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:23 PM
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I know exactly zero single mothers so I don't have any anecdotes to counter yours. I was merely pointing out that the op clearly stated he was talking about decent single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:20 PM
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Why would a man settle in his peak?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:16 PM
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Just like trp teaches men to artificially reinvent themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:15 PM
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Exception that proves the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:11 PM
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Not specifying which wave of feminism she was referring to isn't a fallacy. Something isn't wrong just because it could be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:07 PM
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Some women have that habit. My mom used to mention these princesses who "want a wedding, not a marriage."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:05 PM
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I'm pretty sharp
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:01 PM
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How could a guy even do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:00 PM
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The same women tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:59 PM
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Well I disagree but can't access the page to provide evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:52 PM
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In his OP he explained that the single moms who fit this description actually learned from their mistakes, meaning they no longer display the negative qualities you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:49 PM
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I've seen popular comments/posts on their sub that are along the lines of "how do men even still love their 30 year old wives? How are they not disgusted when there are so many teens walking around to compare her to?" It's definitely somewhat of a pickiness thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:44 PM
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I see what you're talking about and think we need to double down. There aren't enough extreme blue pillers the way that there are extreme red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:40 PM
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From what I've read, they are more likely to obsess over virginal teenagers than normal men I know, which are the "top tier" women according to most RP minded men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:35 PM
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But they echo some of its points, like the relevant one here that young and virginal women are the most attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:33 PM
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According to red pill theory, young virginal women are the most attractive aka top tier SMV. And yea incels are obsessed with and feel like they deserve those women. These are the guys from which I read things like "might as well kill myself since I can never legally take the virginity of a 15 year old." Through an RP lens again this is like a bottom-of-the-barrel fat old slutty woman talking suicidally over not getting to date a top tier man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:28 PM
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I think that's something different? That just sounds like a bitch. The nice girl is bitter that bitchier, more attractive women are chosen over possibly less attractive, supposedly nicer and better behaved ones. So like both the nice guy and the nice girl hear the other sex complain about partners and think "well that's because dumb women/men just chase hot assholes/bitches instead of nice people like me"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 11:19 PM
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Hey squid you're a nice guy! Perfect record busted...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:26 PM
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I think it's more like "men are stupid for only caring about looks; they choose bitches when they could have married a nice girl like me" or similar frustrations expressed by kindly boring Jane that Stacey the popular asshole is getting all the attention
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:23 PM
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I just don't see the point in keeping the ugly girl around at all if that's the lifestyle you want. A polyamorous marriage isn't "conforming to society."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:39 PM
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My kids need to know their father isn't just the old guy who lives with them, pays the bills, takes care of shit around the house, fixes shit and goes to a job. They need to know their father was a boy, grew into a man, and has male wants, needs, and desires, and one of those desires is for frequent sex with attractive women. You did use the present tense before. Not that making it past tense somehow makes it more true that dads are typically this open with their daughters. How exactly would a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:31 PM
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To find someone like that, my guess is that you will need to sacrifice pretty heavily on attraction and/or mental stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:25 PM
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Downplaying weight and age means lowering those numbers...right? That seems to be the opposite of feigning weakness in the sexual sense. Ayyy buddy! I'll be around all week but I'm not reading any articles
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 09:47 AM
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I personally have never felt afraid of a man (for more than like a second). Call it irrational lack of fear. I can still understand why other people would fear such situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:34 AM
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Are you saying women downplay how well they are stationed in life? Or that they downplay their own strong qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:19 AM
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Well I don't think being a woman or a man is universally awesome but being me is awesome. Why would I consider whether some group I'm apart of has it more or less awesome than another group... my life is more awesome than most people from either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:58 AM
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Yeah huh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:52 AM
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Do you think that is a normal, typical, or average experience for a young girl/woman to hear from her own father that he personally desires frequent sex from attractive women? Do you think dads typically tell their daughters the honest red pill truth about other things, like being attracted to her teenage friends, let alone wanting sex with women who aren't her mom??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:14 AM
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We could both find a woman/man that allowed us to cuck them, but we'd have to sacrifice on attractiveness. Attractive people get more of their incredibly selfish demands filled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 12:52 AM
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Apparently it's a meme that marriage aged girls are the worst type of woman, and they get cool again after the wall: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_l-0vfJzoyFI/TVKPOcCKOTI/AAAAAAAAKfs/KZbpn3MoyRI/s1600/edades.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 12:06 AM
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Men trade their resources and commitment of those resources for sex, an extreme example is marriage. If two people get married at age 25, have no children, keep the same jobs and have steady stress levels etc, when will they stop having sex bi-weekly? In the males mind never. THATS WHY HE MARRIED HER. And what exactly do you think the woman's answer would be? This is contrary to what many men say here, which is that the idea of fucking that woman (and only her, especially as she ages) for the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 11:49 PM
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Alright I am glad that you clarified that these are FWBs and not a ONS, as the lines are more likely to blur between FWB and LTR, IME. As I said elsewhere on this post, every LTR that I personally know about has began as a casual sexual relationship before turning into something more serious, which is why I won't have seen the same distinctions that you have between how a girl treats one guy versus another; it will be more often how she treated him before they were official versus after. Not rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 11:19 PM
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Before responding to the overall content, I realized I had a follow up question to address this: but you don't get anything out of it that you wouldn't get from a close female friend other than cuddling and sex. I was just going to ask the reverse of my original question. So you don't believe that the boyfriend receives any privileges that the casual hookup does not? Do you believe that the girlfriend has any duties that the casual hookup does not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:55 PM
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Unless most women aren't looking for any available dick. Did someone say they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:12 PM
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It could definitely be used in the exact same way as Craigslist or grabbing someone off the street. I already said it can be just as dangerous. What's your point? I did not initially say anything about tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:02 PM
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How is that dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:59 PM
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I'm not sure why you asked me about tinder. It could definitely be used in the exact same way as Craigslist or grabbing someone off the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:56 PM
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I don't know. You can see mutual friends with the guy which probably makes it feel safer though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:44 PM
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Being the official girlfriend means having "girlfriend privileges" to her. While the boyfriend has "boyfriend responsibilities/duties" in her mind. Can you elaborate? What are the privileges of being a girlfriend that the casual hookup doesn't get? What are the duties of a boyfriend that a casual hookup doesn't have?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:39 PM
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Right. When DTF, a woman is going to go home with the first guy who's good enough, which usually means decent looking and basic social compatibility. Also I literally don't know any woman in an LTR who didn't have sex with the guy right away, before any commitment was established.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:37 PM
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just go on Craigslist or literally grab the first guy she sees from the street and take him home Oh yeah super safe and fun
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:27 PM
1

Not a bad strategy for non-guys either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:26 PM
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I find it incredibly selfish when a man doesn't allow women to follow their natural imperative to regularly fuck men who are more masculine than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:25 PM
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Why marry at all if that's how you are wired? What benefit is your fatty poly gf giving you that you couldn't get from serial monogamy or long term plate spinning?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:21 PM
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Every single LTR that I know anything about began as a casual sex relationship first. That's how young normal people do things. This idea that women keep relationship guys and sex guys in separate categories bears zero resemblance to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:18 PM
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But I don't nag and bitch. So it isn't AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:14 PM
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The point is that nice girls aren't going to have any need to go to a forum for advice on how to be nice. The mean girls are going to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:06 PM
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Point still stands that being on RPW means they needed to learn to be sweet and submissive, there exist "naturals" just like there are natural alphas who would laugh at trp
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:55 PM
1

Why is the former preferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:50 PM
1

Congrats on being married!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:48 PM
3

r/redpillwhores never took off...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:46 PM
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What does your flair stand for? All women that red pillers like are like that? Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:43 PM
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It's a bit of a catch-22 there... if I admit to being like other girls (that I am AWALTy) then I am either like other girls or I'm a liar. And if I say I'm not like other girls, apparently I am like other girls (or AWALT).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:41 PM
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Yes!! Sluts are very often extremely submissive and feminine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:25 PM
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But the fact that they need RPW means they aren't naturally like that. They actually need advice like "just STFU" and "stop being a bitch" and "have sex with your husband" I have never needed advice of that sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:17 PM
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I disagree with the idea that women can only be potentially satisfied with a small portion of the male population. Just because there are more attractive guys out there doesn't mean a woman isn't attracted to the guy she is with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 08:26 PM
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Hypergamy should naturally work out even with assortative mating, if we also accept all the trp claims about male superiority. All women should be able to find someone taller, stronger, smarter, funnier, more useful, etc than herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 04:16 PM
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I already clicked on it, and I understand how graphs work. I believe our disagreement was more about how rare it is to find someone in that upper right quadrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:54 PM
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And co-captaining is exactly the best way to do things! You're basically blue pill! I don't think being tall, playing guitar, or other alpha qualities are contradictory to beta ones. I think most guys are multi-faceted and not 100% this or that. The ones who are, are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 03:20 PM
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I don't see how you can realistically argue that most men aren't a combination of alpha and beta traits, and that being on either end of the spectrum is what's rare. "Snag a captain and do what he says" is NOT great advice, I don't even think your wife followed it, according to comments from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 02:38 PM
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Today you learned that you are using the word supplicate incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 02:35 PM
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That's the only part you wanted to respond to? I've actually seen multiple posts on RPW complaining that there's no advice for single girls. They're almost all in LTRs or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:36 PM
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I didn't totally understand the relevance of his comment but a homeless man is going to interact in different circles and therefore have different options than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:32 AM
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As my friend squidracer says, everybody settles. So I'm not sure why you think this is a female experience, when like I said, the ideal wife is also rare. As far as your 10%, I actually think the majority of men are close to equally beta and alpha and that the high/low combos are the unusual ones at ends of the spectrum. Women aren't asking "where have the good guys gone" nearly as much as TRP likes to think they are. It's men who seem to be complaining about a shortage of marriageable women. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:06 AM
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A homeless person isn't going to have the same experience as the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:00 AM
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The ideal wife is going to be just as rare to find. I don't think any significant portion of the population (male or female) even considers the top 2% as potential options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:47 PM
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Guys are just as picky in other unrealistic ways. And if they're aiming so low, they have no one to blame but themselves when it doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:44 PM
2

Of course that GODly dick is only the entrance exam
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 05:58 AM
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You don't believe guys who say they prefer asians that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 05:56 AM
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Like guys who do sex tourism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 02:16 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/2trbc7/the_sex_god_method_an_overview_and_fr/?st=J2FH887L&sh=ac57ccd4 According to this post, it means that I get eaten out without asking for it, and when I suggest that I reciprocate, we get to fuck instead. I'm totally on board with this. I've said it before that good sex is what really makes me clingy to a guy. I think more guys should focus on the importance of providing that godly dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 02:13 AM
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Never is a bit much. It's happened to me several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 03:08 PM
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It was Archwinger, he claims to be married: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4eiryt/comment/d20pv0j?st=J2BYUAMN&sh=d20680e9
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 02:59 PM
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Do you disagree that TRP thinks that truly attractive men are rare, and ones who want to commit are even more so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:27 AM
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That every decent looking woman is bombarded with attention on a regular basis or has had to deal with friends falling for them all the time. Any BP ladies who complain about that are well above average in looks and sociability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:09 AM
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Ok well I have. It doesn't contradict TRP either...they do believe that attractive men are very rare, and attractive men committing is even more so. It also goes with their theme of "being the prize" mentality i.e. my wife would never find another high value guy like me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:49 PM
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It's because think attractive men are extremely rare
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:22 PM
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But when I made a post about wife goggles, the highest voted comment said that it's really just referencing a sense of loyalty, not that she actually remains looking hot. So there are at least different accounts of what it really means to have the goggles. Maybe your wife just has great genetics! I guess if you expected her to look older by now, and weren't afraid of that, then that's something positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:20 PM
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You've seen that it's what TRP believes right? Women are the ones who want commitment, men with options don't want to settle down, etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:01 PM
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The ones who claim to be attractive and interested in relationships seem to believe those things make him very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:15 PM
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But I'm pretty sure you're the one who said that about not thinking teens are the hottest age. How am I supposed to know you're speaking metaphorically?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:11 PM
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The attractive relationship-minded ones like to think they're very special.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:01 PM
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Wife giggles is a lie. You don't literally see a 20yo. I was referring to guys saying "I actually prefer women over 25 but don't mind me just being a super outlier over here."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:00 PM
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RP men also think they're super unique: "I'm an attractive man who actually prefers my LTR with a woman my age but trust me all other men would prefer to sleep around and my gf is the only attractive woman of her age"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 04:26 PM
4

Where are you seeing a lack of empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 04:21 PM
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Women make men give up their sexual freedom. Men make women give up their sexual freedom. Women do what their husband demands or needs and little more. But men demand a lot. So do children. Whereas men work their lives away for their woman and family. Usually men are working just as much before getting married... No, women desire freedom more than men after all, and too, men are more willing to be slaves and want to give up their freedom even. Marriage is the opposite of freedom for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 09:40 PM
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Existence is pointless without pussy?? Maybe husbands shouldn't be so demanding then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:56 PM
2

What do you mean by black widow?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:52 PM
1

He looks cooler in that one!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:50 PM
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Women do everything for their husbands and kids while men are heralded for making this great sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:49 PM
2

Scary dog pic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:35 PM
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For women yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:33 PM
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You got real answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:58 PM
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Because the assumption is that beta is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:44 PM
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Those things are beta. They are positive beta traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:30 PM
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I don't have sex with doichebags I can still tell who's a douche it has nothing to do with not committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:19 PM
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If you fell for a woman who was much wealthier than you, would you reverse all your statements, since she's bringing most of the material resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:12 PM
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Sperm tubes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:10 PM
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I would be very confused as this isn't the norm in any culture I'm aware of so there would likely be something weird about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:58 PM
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The head of the nerd is quite narrow Idk why this was really funny to me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:56 PM
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Idk like this? https://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/3007850/345404303/stock-photo-average-man-after-shower-345404303.jpg Or this one? https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/averagemanmichaelwhatley.jpg?w=1024
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:43 PM
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His face looks above average to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:35 PM
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Were you being sarcastic about the man? He looks attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 05:27 PM
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Just abusive to do it to a girl child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 10:02 AM
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I already knew that about you! And when I told you it was adorable you said you wanted to kill me for being sarcastic :(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 01:23 AM
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Most of the reasons it feels right, in your gut... are there are subconscious evolutionary processes in your brain evaluating the partner and sending the feeling to your gut that your genes want you to have towards this mate choice. This is true of women too. The genes are what is sexy, but both sexes factor in other things when it comes to giving commitment. But she wasn't living in a darwinian/malthusian environment very much on the edge of starvation for her whole youth. Almost all your evolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 01:18 AM
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I was a kid genius turned dumb jock after hitting my head one too many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 12:35 AM
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I know you are laughing in agreement 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 12:29 AM
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Oooh I will have to look into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 12:29 AM
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Wow r/amifat is totally ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 08:51 PM
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What's wrong with being a little silly 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 08:41 PM
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"relationship partners" Men choose for many things apart from fertility too, though. you're looking at min 2.5years "conception to conception"... and a reduced fertility window due to inadequate nutrition... so I'm basing that off of you "hitting your minimums" between approx. 20-45. This is off by about 10 years. My great-grandma went 12+ and didn't start until 30, and did this in a time before refrigerators. There's no reason a woman needs to (or even reliably could without BC) wait 2.5 years …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 08:18 PM
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My mom has never nagged my dad. NAWALT 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:37 PM
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My grandma is no nag!! My female ancestors all worked way harder than me and had a shitload more kids too!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:38 PM
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Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:17 PM
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They said humans care what others think of them...that could mean humans care about what others think of different aspects of themselves, like men caring what other men think of their achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:13 PM
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Like who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:08 PM
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Stop trying to shirk your own responsibility of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:03 PM
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Freedom>security
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:02 PM
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When talking about pure sexual attraction, resources are irrelevant. Also, only 10 kids? Pshhh I'm going for at least a dozen and I haven't even started yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:56 PM
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The most attractive people I know are mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:48 PM
1

Hello Mr. Pole! Fun website...I do look better when symmetrical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:45 PM
4

So what's the punchline?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:43 PM
1

Firsthand anecdotal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:42 PM
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Also confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:41 PM
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I believe that is the implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:40 PM
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Because women are financial geniuses?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:39 PM
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When the brain is finished developing, at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:12 PM
2

Still woah
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:05 PM
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Until she turns 27 and people hate her for being old. Better to be valued for something more controllable like muscle composition
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:55 AM
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A different nerdy girl is. This one got turned down
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 11:42 AM
1

Nah men do it way more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:14 AM
5

All the "RP not TRP" sources still say resentful/condescending shit about women tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:12 AM
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But they say it's just the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:08 AM
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I had no idea there are three!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 05:13 AM
1

There's one!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 04:26 AM
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I've seen the same thing. Unattractive young girls will go for older guys and both parties will think that's something to brag about but really neither could get someone attractive in their own age group. The hottest girl in high school is dating the hottest guy in high school while an ugly nerdy girl in high school will feel cool about dating some older guy and the guy gets to feel cool about dating a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 03:57 AM
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Isn't it crazy how since women are born with all their eggs you've like...always existed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 03:46 AM
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Omg Bambi is from 1942??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 03:13 AM
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Well you're only interested in illegal "peak" females. You should probably move somewhere they are legal. Or expand your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:04 AM
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That's hot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:01 AM
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I don't believe a woman could realistically prove to you that she's different from the women you've known.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 11:22 PM
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Slut shaming does sound unlikable. I've never known a woman to do it in real life. So you do agree that men use "you're not like other girls" as a compliment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 11:18 PM
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Should we find some psychological manipulation loophole to get women to do heroin, any loophole at all where it's their choice, like indocrinate them into trying it, pay guys who they are attracted to to give it to them, so they'll be more likely to try it since it comes from a guy they're attracted to? Should we go for ANY loophole to trigger it, as long as it can be blamed on them on some technicality? I really don't see the point of this. The answer is obviously no. Most men LIKE that women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 11:13 PM
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I'm not much of a planner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:22 PM
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The average age to first start menstruating is 14. That is the beginning of fertility, not its peak. Men can also get someone pregnant at age 14. Does that mean that they should be more attractive at that age than they are when they are less fertile at 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:18 PM
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That's totally backwards. Everyone knows the trope of "you're not like other girls." I feel the same way about it as you do. It's a backhanded compliment since it implies that being female is typically negative. I've been told I'm super unique just for being a nice girl, and look at the opinions that men express about women here! IME women don't typically shame "women;" again they are more likely to be specific and shame gold diggers or baby trappers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:14 PM
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Sounds like your gfs meant it as one...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:05 PM
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Awww first kiss!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:01 PM
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Your last reasoning behind treating women like shit didn't make any sense, and I'm confused by this one too. Do you want to treat women unilaterally like shit, or only as punishment for these specific behaviors?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:59 PM
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What does diamonds mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:57 PM
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That's ridiculous. How could they have written the law to account for that? "It's now illegal for adults to have sex with kids, except for incel men, since the teens don't want to have sex with them anyway"? How could they know who was an incel? Again, if a girl wants someone to have innocence and virginity in common with her, she can find someone her own age, who she will have more things in common with too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:52 PM
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Can't see any relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:44 PM
1

Maybe you're just so nice you make other guys look like assholes in comparison :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:43 PM
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I didn't ask why you think teens might go for older men. I asked why you think teens would go for older incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:40 PM
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1) yes which is why women should marry younger men 2) because loneliness sucks and love is great
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:29 PM
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Right they don't post pics of the average 14 year old girl they post the early developer who looks like 25
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:25 PM
3

I knew you were gonna post this! 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:22 PM
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What makes you think teenaged females would choose to fuck older, involuntarily celibate men? They also share innocence and virginity with innocent virginal males of their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:21 PM
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Why is my example too specific? Your gf just wanted you to feel special. Men are great and all my friends know it!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:18 PM
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Do you know why age of consent exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:02 PM
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Average age of first menstruation is 14 years old so calling that peak fertility is way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:00 PM
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Is it appropriate to shame men for pursuing children?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:58 PM
2

If guys are going to assume I'm lying then I might as well lie, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:13 PM
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Ok my friend wants her boyfriend to talk to her more and she never says "men are so hard to talk to" or "why are men so emotionally distant" she questions if her wants are unreasonable or if she's doing something wrong in her communication with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:07 PM
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Thank you for the condolences! Just saying a girls gonna rack up some numbers in search of someone who is compatible sexually and with what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 08:03 PM
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I was a repressed good little catholic girl who let loose once I got to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:24 PM
1

😀
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:21 PM
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Finding a guy who is good (and/or compatible) at sex that is also tolerable and doesn't push for a relationship can be difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:21 PM
2

Marriage isn't defined by what it isn't....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:13 PM
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But my n count! And not all guys are down for FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:31 PM
3

Marriage just isn't a contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:50 PM
2

The other side of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:45 PM
2

Nah just my thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:45 PM
4

Women aren't as sexist as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:45 PM
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Yes I'm serious. It's more "I'm too ugly/fat" not "men are shallow assholes"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:44 PM
1

Yes I know what red pillers think TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:33 PM
1

But I'm old!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:32 PM
2

Thanks for making mocking straw men acting like men have a choice in their attraction and desires. It's not like they're forced into it and born with it. /s Then women literally try to trigger it with how they dress and lies like "ohhh I'm freeuse, you can have sex with me". You literally compared it to being force-injected with heroin. A person does not experience addiction symptoms to heroin, or feel drawn to and withdrawn from heroin, without trying it first. If men are born with the addictio…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 05:19 PM
1

He'd be wrong about all that too!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:11 PM
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That's backwards, that's like if someone force injected you with heroin, and all of a sudden you want it, and they tell you that YOU created the system, and it exists because of your demand for it. Wait, you're saying that men wouldn't want sex with women if they remained virgins? And that it's typically the woman seducing the man into sex? Wait - not just seducing him - literally forcing him, right? Because you compared it to forcefully injecting someone. That quote you used doesn't even talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:39 AM
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Men creating the system must be the reason why lesbian relationships have the highest break-up rates, and the lowest rates of sex, right? This untrue statistic doesn't prove anything in your favor. Prostitution exists because of a male demand for it. Ask any man "Should sex be free for men, or should they have to pay for it?" every single one will say free. WRECKED SO HARD. Umm if you're talking about a r/freeuse world, then of course I think most men would prefer that lol. But if you take away …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:48 AM
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I think people who are in shape actually sweat more (or maybe just quicker). Something about your body taking any exertion as a sign that you might be about to start a workout so it preemptively wants to start cooling you down. And sweat is good for your skin!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:17 AM
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Why should men treat women like shit in a system that men created? Do you think it will help them get more sex? I don't see what your end goal is here. I think most men are glad that prostitutes exist. If I can't understand the male experience by reading about it, what on earth makes you think you can understand that of an addict? I have several friends who are recovering heroin or meth addicts. I'm looking forward to the WTF looks on their faces when I ask them how closely their addictions comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 02:13 AM
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As with so many things on this sub, I just haven't had the same experience. Although it does make sense in a way that people would generalize more as they get older and more experienced, I would still bet that men do it more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:43 AM
2

Technically, trying to get raped by standing in a dangerous alley is an option, yes. It comes with a lot more risks than seeing a prostitute does. Plus, if she was going to try and obtain sex from someone she isn't necessarily attracted to, why not become a prostitute herself, which is safer and profitable. If it doesn't matter who the sex is coming from, a guy can find a bar or club that has a glory hole and just stick his dick in it until someone plays with it. Pros are 100% a real option. Hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:30 AM
5

How old are you? I still think women of those ages are more likely to attribute lack of success to their being something wrong with her, not with men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:23 AM
2

How is that comparable advice? A man can actually go see a prostitute. A woman can't decide to be raped. Obviously he knows the deal when going to a pro so there's no need to worry about him getting triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:20 AM
5

Sweaty
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:07 AM
2

I'm not saying it never happens but if it's happening to a guy every time he tries to have sex then he should try one of the other choices that he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:06 AM
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I think it's a tendency of women to internalize the cause of their problems and take responsibility (even for things that may not be their fault). I almost never hear any sort of AMALT statements, even from women who just got dumped and/or screwed over. They'll be mad at the individual not at "men."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:04 AM
2

Women don't lie to the average man about wanting sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:57 AM
2

I was clearly talking about a theoretical woman in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:53 AM
2

What exactly is the question here? What choices do men regarding sex? They have countless options. They can choose to have no sex at all. They can choose to seek out long lasting sexual relationships. They can be monogamous and find someone to marry. They can seek out one-time sexual encounters with willing partners. They can negotiate sexual relationships involving exchange of money or other services. They can get involved in communities where people have sex openly and frequently. There's coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:40 AM
0

Lots of choice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:48 PM
2

Needy means she needs a lot from him. Wouldn't a woman who was giving, adoring, doting and didn't need much in return be the ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:36 PM
0

Uh yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:34 PM
1

Sure I was talking about wanting to bone the hot young guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:29 PM
0

There were times when women really didn't get choices. I was just talking about who she wants to fuck, not where she wants to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 10:28 PM
2

Their power makes the woman have no choice. A woman who is forced into the harem of a wrinkly fat old king is dreaming about the hot young stable boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:28 PM
2

That's not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:31 PM
3

Wow I wonder why don't feminists spend their lives fighting for this issue that men obviously take so seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:30 PM
1

Ok cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:40 AM
2

Maybe they don't know it's an issue that men really care about, or people in general aren't hearing about it since it happens pretty infrequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:39 AM
1

Ok, I guess I know pretty little about feminism, so I'm no longer going to try and explain their positions. I can only speculate about their views and motivations of this widespread and broad movement to try and answer your question. If you asked if I personally find it hypocritical to say that men's rights issues are covered under feminism, and then to claim that young male rape survivors not getting their due justice isn't an issue that feminism should cover, then of course my answer is yes. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:37 AM
2

The feminists are focused more on problems specifically plaguing females. Sometimes relevant questions come up in a discussion like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:17 AM
2

Male sperm quality (reproductive/genetic fitness) health decreases with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:14 AM
1

But this is an issue where boys are suffering, it makes more sense for men's rights to take the lead here. Just like I don't expect men's rights to take action to fix the wage gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:12 AM
2

So clearly it's a men's rights issue. Good for them. They don't seem to have much to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 01:11 AM
1

Maybe they don't think there's much need for reform there since men will laugh off the issue saying "lucky kid."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:56 AM
1

Why aren't men more outraged by this kind of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:50 AM
1

I'd guess most feminists are in favor of equal sentencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:43 AM
2

Explains why women are attracted to younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:39 AM
3

The only people I've ever seen argue that this should not be a crime, or that it's not damaging to the boy, are red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:30 AM
5

TRP portrays male sexuality as being pretty negative and non-virtuous imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 12:17 AM
1

"I'm busy" can lead to all sorts of questions too. "What's more important than helping me? Why are you always busy? When will you do it then?" The nagging itself was a shit test and it's better for the man to be straightforward and masculine than to be shifty and feminine, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:45 PM
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I saw all sorts of behaviors constantly excused in my male classmates and relatives because "boys will be boys" while I was punished for even mildly stepping out of line. I was told that caring about looks is only for immature, shallow people and that good people grow out of that and seek out good character in a partner instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:02 PM
1

No I'm using your premise that women are always looking for reasons to think less of him and I think constantly avoiding her demands is more likely to make that happen than if he just straight up says he's not gonna do it. If it's a guy she already likes, reasonably declining a request isn't going to be taken poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 08:45 PM
2

Nooo first
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 08:20 PM
1

It's a weak response that will make her think less of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 08:19 PM
1

You said before that it seemed to be an instinctual thing, that finding out a hot woman was older turned you right off. I guess it's possible that you've come to subconsciously associate negative things like boredom with certain ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:42 PM
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Even if it's true that teen girls know more than teen boys, that doesn't mean ALL 14 year old girls are considering the possibility of old men checking them out when they are running around in shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:40 PM
3

Are females who can't attract your penis (for reasons other than being undeveloped) still women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:29 PM
8

No not every woman understands these things, especially at that age. (Not saying this is true of Varona)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:27 PM
3

That's why I'm asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:25 PM
4

I was responding to your answer to the first question. You said it's not about the number. For some guys, it apparently is. I don't see how the fact that a 26 year old can still get knocked up is relevant...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:24 PM
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She's an adult now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:19 PM
4

Who? What does that have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:18 PM
8

That's not how he defined women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:17 PM
4

I think the number matters. You have said yourself that you'll lose attraction to a woman if you find out she's older than 25, even if you thought she was really hot before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:15 PM
7

So females who are too old or ugly to attract your penis aren't women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:07 PM
1

I don't know why you think your response is any less likely to lessen her attraction to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 06:03 PM
2

She'll be way more angry and annoyed by constantly having to nag you than she'll be at you asking a reasonable question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 05:07 PM
2

Saying "I'm busy" every time she nags you about something is more communication than saying "why can't you do it yourself" once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 05:00 PM
2

If the nagging always stops on its own, it's not that annoying, and she still has sex with a guy who lets her nag him, then it's not really a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:51 PM
1

I guess nagging isn't even a problem then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:45 PM
1

Nagging implies persistence/repetition. If it's something she sees every day around the house, I can't see why she'd just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:33 PM
2

I'm saying he has a very small chance of her forgetting something she's nagged about before, or finding someone who is that inconsistent with their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:12 PM
2

He should find someone who is so forgetful that she randomly forgets things she cared enough about to nag him over? That's not going to lead to more sex for him either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:10 PM
2

That suggests that he will do it when he's not busy, which will lead to more communication down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:50 PM
2

So what is the bare minimum response to her nagging him about something he doesn't want to do or doesn't think is important?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:41 PM
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It's the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 03:00 AM
3

So you're advocating that he never speak to his gf at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 11:11 PM
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So he should just literally pretend she doesn't exist for the duration of their relationship? I see that decreasing chances of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:57 PM
3

Then what's a better solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 10:42 PM
3

Then he should say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 09:04 PM
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Calm the fuck down
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:39 AM
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Who cares. She was probably interpreted it right and was just sharing her experience regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 05:39 AM
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It reads like advice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:10 AM
6

Your uggo kids could just wear makeup too!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:54 AM
1

Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:04 AM
5

This is one reason I avoid wearing makeup. I don't want to look terrible on the days that I don't feel like doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:04 AM
6

He did say "you" it can be confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:40 AM
2

I'm down with getting rid of makeup. I'm pretty sure I'd have an edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:38 AM
3

Of course there are. Just like there are naturally pretty ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:49 PM
1

Are kindness and empathy really feminine traits? From red pill descriptions, it seems that empathy does not come naturally to women, nor does kindness or caring. I think TRP would say men are generally kinder and more empathetic. Do you agree? I think atlas's thread from the other day pointed out how men desire totally contradicting traits in women, like wanting someone who is nurturing but doesn't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:48 PM
1

It doesn't happen often at all. And no, I'm not sure there are many sources saying either men or women are always at fault for a divorce. People typically don't assign blame that way. They do it on a case-by-case basis. Like when a couple breaks up, the wife's family may blame the man while the husband's family blames the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:18 PM
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It's true. Source: I make the best girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:59 PM
3

True. Look at the cast of the British version of The Office vs the American one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:44 PM
4

That's a very small portion of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:40 PM
3

Be the sugar baby for a gay dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:39 PM
1

How do you know that women "often" do that? It's more common for men to change what they demand from their partner once the vows are exchanged. I haven't found any sources saying it's always the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:39 PM
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Ridiculously false. How would that even work?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:03 PM
1

No it isn't always assumed to be his fault. If you take away alimony, women will have no reason to stay home and take care of the kids, which is what a lot of guys want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:03 PM
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That doesn't make his list any less silly. How exactly am I supposed to go about getting free concert and game tickets?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:57 PM
4

That's ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:55 PM
1

Very poorly. I'm a mid 20s single female. Low FTO oldest teenager confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:40 PM
1

If marriage and divorce were really so bad for men, wouldn't you think women would be more likely than men to remarry after divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:38 PM
3

A whole soccer team!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:31 PM
1

No, that everyone knows someone who knows someone who was divorce raped. So what about the fact that men are more likely to remarry?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:29 PM
3

You shouldn't let people on PPD convince you that women are worthless, especially not that you in particular are. There are more subscribers on r/gilf than there are here. Even if every negative thing said about women was true, that shouldn't get you down. In fact, you should totally flip your perspective and be glad about it, because if women are as unintelligent, cowardly, and unempathetic as you believe they are, that just means you can stand out even more for being intelligent, courageous, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:27 PM
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Yes, it goes married>never married>divorced. So either marriage is causing the benefits, or higher quality people choose to get married. Why do you think that is the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:16 PM
2

That's a confusing statement that is impossible to prove. Men are more likely to remarry after a divorce than women are. They are more likely to be financially stable after a divorce. The things you're talking about are incredibly rare. Men can choose to marry hard workers but by their own admission they don't prioritize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:13 PM
2

I'm not sure why you think women are inferior at everything. You seem pretty intelligent yourself. You can always change and grow, and/or learn to play to your strengths. "You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 15 minutes ago." There's no need to dwell on this stuff. There's definitely no benefit in imposing limits on yourself based on your negative self-perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:06 PM
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Yes it's a correlation. I guess we only like those when they're about n count and divorce rates. I've seen studies where they do not lump in the divorced people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:55 PM
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I think it's been shown that women are typically worse off after divorce than men are. They typically sacrifice important years of their professional lives. It's men's decision to be the breadwinner. And no, not everyone knows a man who was divorce raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:53 PM
2

I didn't say that! You can totally have both, just like I'm gonna find my super manly sexy man who also is dying to marry me and take care of all my babies! I just think it's funny when you guys are all like "we love feminine women, where have the feminine women gone," yet then a NAWALT magical unicorn is actually a masculine woman. If femininity was really that desirable, men would want the most AWALT women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:50 PM
2

You've literally never seen this before? I've spoken against marriage since I was a teenager. How is it a red flag to not oppose MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:38 PM
2

Why do you think your gender is shitty?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:35 PM
5

So dramatic lol just marry someone who makes as much as you do How is there no reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:24 PM
1

It just sounds like there are less people getting married who shouldn't have gotten married. If marriage itself was destined to fail you'd expect the divorce rate to remain constant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:22 PM
3

There have been multiple studies showing the benefits of marriage for men. Which one was debunked?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 07:15 PM
1

Why do you think only men are negatively affected by divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 06:42 PM
1

But I thought they wanted feminine angelic virgins!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 06:35 PM
2

I'll never understand blaming the other woman/man. They're not the one who made a promise to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 06:04 PM
3

Bob is such a fun-sucker!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:46 AM
2

But that means I have to lock someone down SOON and I've never been good with deadlines 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:43 AM
2

No, women in general. Looks fade. Something something wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:36 AM
1

But neither are being valued for their hard work. Both have reason to believe their accomplishments are worthless. You're a runner right? Is that what you were talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:35 AM
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I feel my ovaries stir whenever he smiles at me 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:27 AM
2

Why don't you think so? I think that's a red pill belief, that women are upset that they are valued for their youth and beauty instead of their accomplishments and careers. Like you said, she has to be attractive (according to TRP = young) in order to be valued for those things at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:26 AM
1

Do you think that women feel a similar frustration if they work really hard at something but are still valued primarily for their looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 01:16 AM
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My current crush is short with the cutest face and I want all his little spermies up in me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 12:29 AM
2

How do women invalidate your hard work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 11:15 PM
2

Same. I've learned how to socialize through observation but there are times I'm reminded how clueless I am compared to others who seem to know that kind of stuff naturally. My self-esteem comes and goes. I'm also very sensitive to noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 10:04 PM
1

Nah not severe. Is yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 09:53 PM
2

I knew it!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 09:29 PM
1

If you can't trust, you can't be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 09:18 PM
1

I have some weird tendencies too. I've been diagnosed with OCD for the repetition but never with anything on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 09:17 PM
2

INTP here and your comment struck a chord
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 07:07 PM
2

Hey I just noticed the same thing! https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/66ub90/comment/dglzr0y?st=J1TLM3BW&sh=4197b0fb
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 06:29 PM
7

So you would never date a woman that you have respect for?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 06:24 PM
4

Somehow in the "what makes you lose respect for a man" thread I didn't see much "AMALT" type generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 06:20 PM
2

Aww. What's your MBTI?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 06:19 PM
3

It's usually just the freaky muscles that grosses girls out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 05:59 PM
1

Why only modern?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 05:58 PM
4

My ex was like this too. He fits so many AWALT traits he must've been a secret woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 05:57 PM
1

When I aggressively hit on a guy, it means I'm trying to get laid and I'm not afraid of being rejected by him. My lyft driver the other day was cute enough to fuck so I aggressively asked for his number. I don't want to date him and if he rejected me I would be slightly bummed. I do want to date my coworker. There's a lot more risk involved with being aggressive there, though I have shown interest with plausible deniability. If he rejected me I'd be super bummed and work would be terrible. But w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 05:55 PM
1

Why? According to who or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:03 AM
1

What was the principle? That he didn't want to be the only one doing the thing for you both?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 01:01 AM
4

But you approach these questions with similar assumptions that you're accusing u/writingtoc of doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 10:13 PM
3

I see you ask women questions about themselves fairly often, typically in a condescending manner (this is why you asked why she was treating you "like a girl"). It seems you two share similar MOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:59 PM
2

Ron Swanson the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:51 PM
5

Very interesting to see you taking a question so personally. Do you feel she is being condescending towards you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:42 PM
3

Whether or not he meant to write it that way, it is what he wrote, so people responding to it doesn't prove anything. So you believe that men and women are similar in this regard? You said a woman won't try to argue against the generalizations but instead try to show how special she is. He said that's what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:29 PM
5

Can't you just answer questions directly instead of trying to make some weird roundabout point? I'm not good at reading minds. Just say what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:27 PM
2

What's objective interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:49 PM
3

That seems contradictory, especially since you're arguing that being a complainer is a female thing and saying "but I'm not like that" is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:26 PM
5

"Lol nah"? Really? Commenters aren't "defending womankind" they are arguing against his generalization. And you merely said "that's not what I was thinking about." Your Team Man proclivities stopped you from saying that you actually think women are more likely to do what he said men are more likely to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:24 PM
7

Why are you persistently reading personally into her question instead of just answering it directly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:22 PM
3

And both are irrational?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:18 PM
5

So he crafted a manipulative statement in which simply disagreeing with him seems to prove him right. I pointed out that he contradicted you, something I don't think you addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:05 PM
1

That doesn't mean that 50% of men couldn't genuinely have a shot if they were in her social circle. Like I said, many women have an aversion to strangers or people they can't immediately feel a comfortable relation to. Like let's take it from the Costco parking lot (most guys wouldn't be excited about the female population there either) to a college campus where a given woman is attending school. I believe most women would be open to talking to at least every other man she sees on her way to cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 08:03 PM
2

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 07:49 PM
4

Enough where he will choose someone whose body proportions better match his ideal over another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 07:40 PM
2

Ok, boob or ass size then. Are you going to say that men don't have irrational preferences over those?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 07:30 PM
5

Maybe also height, but shorter instead of taller. Which makes the female preference a more "rational" one since greater height is correlated with all sorts of positive health traits (to a certain extent).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 07:24 PM
6

You think men aren't just as "irrational" about what they are attracted to, or any more in control of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 07:10 PM
8

Every man will at some point act that way too, making it pretty useless to limit to only women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:51 PM
8

I don't care if he looks at things how he wants. He thinks people are having trouble accepting his viewpoint when really they are just not agreeing with it. Why is that at all surprising or interesting that everyone doesn't just agree with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:49 PM
7

I don't see what's interesting about people arguing on a debate sub. Accepting your POV and agreeing with it are two different things. I only pointed out how you contradicted the OP, and referenced something commonly seen here. You've never heard of the girl who says, "I'm not like other girls"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:47 PM
1

Oh! And I think what you're saying is that women need to be less inhibited and take more risks...be more alpha, you could say ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 06:21 PM
10

You're just starting to get that impression? It's also likely to be confirmation bias; they ignore the women who react perfectly reasonably to disagreement and remember the one time that one cried.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:48 PM
7

What you're saying going against the OP, who says that women spend more time asserting that she as an individual is not like that. Both sexes seem to have the stereotype of saying "I'm not like other girls/guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:44 PM
3

I never have done this in my life grrrr I hate you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:37 PM
1

So he wouldn't have dated her if she was upfront about her n count to begin with? He made it sound like it was only because she lied. I didn't shame him. I think obsessed was the accurate term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:34 PM
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I'm not sure why you think I'm asking for personal advice. I think this started with the suggestion that a high partner count could signify a high sex drive. If someone was in the top whatever% for libido, maybe it would be difficult to find someone who wants sex as much as they do. That's one way they could have trouble with "compatibility." It's also harder imo for women to find satisfying sex than it is for men. I think I saw griddy talk about a high n count woman who got that way by "chasing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:31 PM
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The second one is true yes, at least that they aren't immediately disqualified because of attractiveness. Some women aren't receptive to strangers, or have other reasons to reject anyone. So it's more that the vast majority of men know women who would comfortably accept a sexual relationship with them. Since the majority of men have done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:24 PM
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How does that support your point? That sub only has 40k followers, and when I checked the front page, almost every other post was written by a woman. Seeing as I said the vast majority, I am going to challenge you to accept that it includes at least the majority - more than 50% of men. You may just feel special for being attractive on a forum for men who have trouble feeling attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:22 PM
2

Hey that's the story of my life! And yes....it did take a shit ton of effort for years. But I think I was overcoming more fear than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 05:17 PM
1

A woman's looks have pretty much as much bearing over her ability to be a good mother. Women want good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 01:58 PM
1

Hard to say. Masturbating works wonder for me personally. Even though I feel horny on a daily basis, the urge is far from strong enough to make me want to masturbate daily. Why is it hard to say whether it'd work for them yet you see it as a viable substitute for sex for me? So is this about sexual compatibility or sex drive? You've changed the subject now... I haven't changed the subject. You suggested having sex with one person to satiate one's sex drive; I'm just saying that in trying to find…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 06:55 AM
1

Then how is it that so much more than 25% of men have had girlfriends, even casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:51 AM
1

No. I imagine they wouldn't believe it. But you do think the same applies to them? I can see these casual relationships dragging on for several years Just because they didn't end up lasting forever doesn't mean they never intended for it to last forever, and even if they didn't, that doesn't mean it's not an LTR. A relationship doesn't only count as an LTR if both parties intend to stay with the other person forever. This isn't really a way to counter my argument that sex drive could be satisfie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:50 AM
1

Can you be specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 05:10 AM
2

Men should also hate their fellow betas for lowering the cost of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:24 AM
1

That's just not true though. The vast majority of men are attractive enough to get sex and relationships. Attractive men are far from "incredibly scarce." It seems men are more likely to try to steal each other's partners than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:29 AM
3

Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:21 AM
3

How so? Low n girls are nice and sweet while high n girls are bitchy and crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:16 AM
1

It seems that since women have abundance and men have scarcity, it would apply more to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:13 AM
1

I understand your reasoning behind it, and can't see why the same would not apply to men. So what makes you believe this is true of women? Like, you've witnessed their private conversations somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 10:45 PM
4

I don't think men are any more logical about picking a wife than women are about picking a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:51 PM
3

As if male sexuality gives a fuck about logic over feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:44 PM
1

But is the issue only that she lied about her n count? Or is the issue also her actual n count, and he wouldn't have dated her if she was honest about it? I was under the impression that it was the former. I didn't say shit about him that he didn't admit himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:14 PM
0

I thought the problem was about the lie, not about the n count
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:09 PM
2

He seems taken aback at her sense of humor. Maybe his routine works better on the "average woman" according to TRP (not interesting or funny) and is what people mean when saying this stuff doesn't work as well on higher quality women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:04 PM
5

Right! Why do they gotta try and assert that ALL women will react the same way to the same guy/situations
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:46 PM
6

You must share this tale!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:42 PM
3

Not if he tells her it's because of the lie and not because of the n count. Right?? Anyways, sounds like they were a perfect match though. Opiate addict/ liar + someone so obsessed that he'll hack your computer and interrogate you like the FBI. Real winners there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:30 PM
3

Well yeah that was the breaking point IMO too. Edit: also when he was like "myyy bitch" about her liking Seinfeld she was kinda like haha what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:24 PM
1

So is it in my best interest to lie about my partner count?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:18 PM
1

Idk, maybe it'd be better to disincentivize lying like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:17 PM
1

Not a full four years within one belief....that's what college is for. Spending a little time learning about different beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:13 PM
2

It really depends on the girl. Some seem to have no incentive or natural inclination towards wit, while others will struggle with being that socially comfortable with a stranger. Do you think effort really helps most people develop a sense of humor?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:11 PM
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We don't know if it worked! I actually think he lost her at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:07 PM
1

I meant geographically regional. Like are numbers vastly different in Florida than California.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:29 PM
3

What specifically about what he says is red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:27 PM
1

I don't see what is red pill about their conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:15 PM
3

That's what I said! She's charming. There should be notes on her girl game.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:08 PM
4

If that was supposed to be "amused mastery" or something, she was just as good at it and equally charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:07 PM
4

Yeah I'd marry the eff out of him as long as we banged beforehand! My first bf was a virgin and I still like him a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:49 PM
1

Just thought it seemed asymmetrical that you didn't use that instead of needing variety/validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:47 PM
1

Have you told the incels how all their problems can be cured by masturbating more? STR/FWB don't last long. Hence the "S" in STR. Of course there's no "need" for multiple partners but there's also no need to not have multiple partners. I masturbate a few times a day and I still want to bang.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:46 PM
1

It would be interesting to see more regional data on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:39 PM
2

Because you don't view marriage as a way to purchase a vagina? Hey if she's A prostitute then she actually hasn't given it away for free. Is that better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:37 PM
0

Relationships are not easy or even desirable for all. Some people see relationships as taking more effort and therefore will be picky about who they choose to enter one with, while taking care of their sexual needs more "casually."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:33 PM
1

Did you mean just because it's not a logical position doesn't mean he doesn't strongly identify with it? Why don't you explain that further? There are things that might make me irrationally competitive and angry ("I'm a better runner than you"; "I'm more Irish than you"; "my mom is cooler than your mom") but it doesn't offend me when people attack my beliefs on this subreddit, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:32 PM
0

Why wouldn't it follow that a high count is correlated to a high sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:19 PM
3

It actually seems like Reddit cares more about n count than real life dudes do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:18 PM
1

Fucking lol Why not at least tell them why you left them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:16 PM
1

His friends are overweight so that would be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:11 PM
1

I don't believe the gender-neutral sensible advice qualifies as being red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:08 PM
0

Just saying by his measure alpha players are also abusing power, so men should hate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:05 PM
1

It just seems to go against everything else you say about men. According to you, I would think that something a man truly believes in is a conclusion he has reached logically and therefore is impervious to outside criticism. I guess personally I'd prefer to be in the category of vulnerability to mean talk about my private parts than that of my most serious and personal beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:04 PM
2

Seems like a very irrational way to choose a "belief system"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 06:31 AM
13

God forbid a guy tries to keep a first date lighthearted and fun!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:51 AM
1

I'm thinking more of someone who was raised with WBC ideas but then gains exposure to other ideas and can then make an informed decision as to what ideas they personally hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:03 AM
2

There's nothing wrong with exposure to other knowledge and belief systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:35 AM
2

So insulting a guys favorite sports team can genuinely hurt him? Those were the kind of personal serious beliefs you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:35 AM
1

I can't see how male sluts wouldn't also be abusing their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:32 AM
1

I disagree here. TRP is incorrect about women wanting commitment from every guy they have sex with. Sometimes a bad boy is just hot (or not even hot but a great bang) but you'd never consider him as a relationship prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:20 AM
2

If men were honest about that, women wouldn't be as slutty as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:02 AM
1

I think vaginas are gross but I think that's because I'm not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:56 AM
1

What makes you think this is true? Why would they just tell each other the mediocre stuff and not the really good stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:41 AM
2

What kind of beliefs can guys get hurt over? I think I've asked you for a personal example of this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:33 AM
2

Culturally assimilating brainwashing isn't necessarily better; the teachings and traditions of a culture can be detrimental to the individual for a number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:22 AM
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I think there is an old school (and red pill) belief that women want relationships more than men do which leads to the expectation that women should want to do more and make more sacrifices for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:15 AM
2

Dealio Emilio
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:04 AM
1

But if you believe that everything TRP says about women is also true of men, I don't think you can call yourself RP since their main point is what I said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:03 AM
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Disagree, as the main point of TRP seems to be "men and women are different."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:00 PM
1

I don't want that power. I think the advantages of never getting pregnant outweigh it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:00 PM
1

Supposedly that's not the age group that men want anyway, being post wall themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 04:59 AM
1

What you did to take care of yourself in the past affects how attractive you are in the present moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 04:57 AM
1

You better!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:49 AM
1

It's a fundamentally important thing for women to do too imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:34 AM
3

I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:23 AM
2

I suppose it would mean that a potential husband knows he's signing up to be a part of a huge (and involved) family, go to the local Irish pubs and try to care about rugby, know what Irish dance and football are and be open to our kids partaking in those activities, learn a bit of the language/history and come around to hating England.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:23 AM
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No pregnancy. Less expectations of them within relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:16 AM
5

I don't think lower standards is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:14 AM
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Do you mean a woman who is currently still on college, or one who went to college? I'll answer as if you meant the second. College educated women who marry after age 25 are the least likely to get divorced. A woman who has been exposed to more opportunities (aka educated) and still decides that family is most important to her is a better bet than one who never explored other possibilities. An educated woman can find a way to contribute to the family income and still meet your other needs. I supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:09 AM
2

I'll take the lot!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:03 AM
1

God mom you don't text people on Facebook 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:01 AM
2

I'll take two!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:00 AM
1

That's such a broad definition still! Is he a criminal douchebag? Or a good looking cool guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:00 AM
1

Apparently squidracer's dad is also Chad. You have a brother!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:58 AM
1

"He doesn't exist," laughed the Chad...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:57 AM
2

Awwww
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:53 AM
1

Oh shit I don't know where to start! You got one loaded for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:52 AM
1

Except that he believes it's true of men as well. People (maybe even you) have said the same thing to me when I say something sort of cynical or whatever but it's not red pill if you believe it applies to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:45 AM
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I'm not sure what it means to "convert" to Irish culture. lol I actually love that someone put that on a dating profile. I have my own idea of what it means but theirs might be totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:28 AM
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I actually don't think I have ever seen "I hate muscles" said by a woman on this sub. I have seen them point out when a guy has too much for ones taste, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:02 AM
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We literally can't win!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:53 PM
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As if there's no "brainwashing" when a woman comes from a very traditional family/culture and has never been exposed to anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:52 PM
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That's so fucking easy to bring to the table jeez like anyone can do that. I mean I really don't understand how it's possible that women would find that hard, although I guess some do. There must be more you'd want that you're not mentioning...no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:46 PM
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Ok, as long as you acknowledge that the same can be true of women and that neither are particularly common. As women tend to like men around the same age as them, "the wall" for men is that it becomes more difficult to hook up with increasingly younger women (yes I know there are exceptions). It's also true that looks matter more now for men than they did in the past. I find Eddie Redmayne super cute as he has retained a lot of boyishness into his 30s. He also married someone his own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:37 PM
1

Hi!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:30 PM
1

This is why I roll my eyes at "daughters are more expensive than sons" uhh who is forcing you to pay for that crap?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:04 PM
1

He's already RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:02 PM
1

What else do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:00 PM
1

So then you don't get everything you'd get from marriage as most of these guy (not you, as far as I know) claim to want a woman who decidedly does not prioritize her career, so that she can better fill other desires of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:59 PM
2

He's a squishy baby squid
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:53 PM
1

Are you serious? You don't think everyone can tell the difference between a 25yo man and a 35yo man? What would you say to someone telling you the same thing about a woman who was 25 vs one who's 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 10:52 PM
3

Good thing our resident PhD in Chad studies is here to clarify this for us all :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 06:07 PM
2

Well when you define Chad as "guy that women are attracted to" it makes it conveniently impossible to prove wrong. Even better when you throw in little caveats like different social groups or even individual women having different Chads who aren't necessarily Chad to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 06:03 PM
3

So you prefer bitches to nice girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:31 PM
5

Are non-cunty women really that rare to find?? Do you actually think they're rewarded for being non-bitches?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 05:30 PM
2

You're INTP too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 06:34 AM
1

Yes I'm hitting on you instead of the wall :D
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 03:02 AM
2

I think I might be at the reverse wall where I look too young for lots of guys :O
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 01:17 AM
3

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 01:02 AM
1

I don't get it... Are you saying I've hit the wall?? Shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:56 AM
2

Well I get crushes on lots of guys!:D Too bad this one prefers 37yo women. Like lots of guys do. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:30 AM
3

Then what's the point of the wall if you're just as happy with an older woman as you are with a younger one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:19 AM
3

It's not though... My current crush happened the same as my first one. I saw a really cute boy with great hair and a killer smile and I felt all melty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:17 AM
2

It's really not like saying that. It's not how men typically work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:16 AM
1

Why wouldn't you date the young college women who flirt with you? What age would you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:15 AM
3

Good ol Trumpy making the wall a reality for us all!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 12:13 AM
1

This is a great explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:56 PM
1

No way Jose. It's older men that have to go for the less attractive, more damaged ones if he wants a younger woman. Plenty of hot young men are genuinely interested in fucking older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:53 PM
2

We don't have to ask. We can see it on your old weathered faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:51 PM
3

Not the young women that you want...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:50 PM
1

"Would sleep with" is not the same is "is attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:47 PM
4

Lol, I guess I haven't seen that. I would think a lot of those stories are just of people who are just being nice which is what I thought was the case for me except that it happens so frequently and inconveniently for that to believably be the case. My friends laugh at me for being the "baby face" they don't all experience the same thing. Next we can go on TRP and hear about how all these men who are 55+ barely look 22 while the women around them are literally melting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:38 PM
4

Most guys aren't looking that closely for things to get turned off by, subconsciously or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:33 PM
4

Right haha being the mom of his kids and his wife is also true of the younger guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:31 PM
1

Is that a very common thing on Reddit? Its been a consistent thing in my life, even as a kid people always thought I was younger than I was. I thought I might've outgrown it but now that I'm working retail I get questioned almost daily about why I'm not at school.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:26 PM
1

Personally the evidence that men age earlier than women do matches my experience. And I don't think anyone "dramatically" loses SMV in any short period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:22 PM
2

Go for an old rich lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:21 PM
1

Of course I don't! She's older and hotter than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 11:20 PM
4

Why do I get the sense that he's actually thinking about how great a deal this is for the old man and not how it would realistically be for the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:27 PM
3

If it sounds so sweet, have you thought about trying to execute a similar strategy as a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:26 PM
3

Sorry, I'm not aiming to be divorced and rich anymore than I'm aiming for the awesome status of gold-digging ho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:24 PM
2

Ok, I thought you considered 30yo to be "post-wall." Some RPers have said that no 30yo can compete with any 20yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:23 PM
4

What makes you think that someone who valued you primarily for your youth (given that he selected someone so much younger than him) would be less likely to ditch you once you begin to lose your youthfulness? No matter what, you are not going to remain a "teen trophy wife" forever. The only status you achieve with your plan is that of "gold-digger" and "widowed gold-digger."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:18 PM
2

You just said the opposite though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:15 PM
1

Looking good for one's age makes on a genetic miracle?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:11 PM
3

What is carbface?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:08 PM
3

Of course you probably looked younger 5 years ago but that doesn't mean you "got the wall" lol.. 5 years ago I actually got my ID taken away from me because it was assumed to be a fake, nowadays they only check it 5 times because "you can't be too careful." You'll keep looking older but will always look young for your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 10:07 PM
4

Well yea, this is actually my point. Red pillers disagree with me on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 09:52 PM
2

I've made it very obvious and been turned down. Even in high school, which was supposedly my "peak." Isn't the point that women 10 years older than me aren't supposed to be "close in terms of attractiveness"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 09:34 PM
2

If not looks only, then what? I think you've told me before, sorry if the question seems repetitive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 09:32 PM
3

I think I'm normal and TRP is filled with outliers and confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 09:26 PM
2

Well there's a lot of different examples. My last boyfriend branch swung to an older outspoken feminist with actual short blue hair. My current crush ignored me for a married woman with 3 kids. I'm used to being ignored when I go out with my older friends. I'm the least demanding girl you could hope to meet, although these other women probably have more money. *i mean they're good looking too, in spite of the age/hair/kids
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:55 PM
8

On PPD every old guy and his grandpa are fucking hot teenagers for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:36 PM
5

Hey let's just look at the real life CHAD OF CHADS who, in spite of the possibility of having any hot teen, inexplicably chose someone of equal status who was 7 years older!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:32 PM
2

Yeah I'm really confused as to why people think it happens so suddenly. In ten years, I'll look ten years older. I won't suddenly age ten years in the span of three.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:27 PM
3

The wall has nothing to do with being a slut/whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:25 PM
3

I can get more behind this. Is it really supposed to be some sudden thing? If I look 10 years younger than my age now, won't I generally continue to look 10 years younger than my age? Or is the idea that I am going to suddenly look 20 years older?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:25 PM
3

I had sex once at 20 for my first time, it was his too. I don't think it "doesn't matter" with regards to my point which was that I never received the same benefits as the hot woman you know and therefore won't experience some existential life crisis when guys will no longer put up with my "nonsense" since guys never pursued me enough for me to be nonsensical in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:18 PM
5

Chad absolutely settles down with rare exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:16 PM
2

What doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:14 PM
4

Right I just said that elsewhere!! Honestly wtf, some consistency would be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:13 PM
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If I were a hot teen girl I bet I would try to lock down a high-status middle-aged man, with The Wall in mind, thinking long term, and thinking about family. Ew, god why? What makes you think you'd prioritize stability over attraction so drastically? If you're a hot teen girl, thinking long term you don't want to marry someone who will get old and likely die 30 years before you will, leaving you alone in your old age. You can find someone as young, healthy, and attractive as you are, that you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:11 PM
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I've heard and seen the opposite stories over and over again yet apparently that's "just me" and I live in opposite world or something Old men can get less attractive young women who have issues
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:06 PM
3

My personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:59 PM
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My thoughts are that if she's actually so hot, she has options, and could date a young attractive successful guy instead of an old one. The guys who brag about getting young women seem to hardly ever get the most attractive young women, or the baggage-free, non-gold-digging* young ones. Those ones are with a hot guy on her college football team, not some "experienced" old guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:51 PM
4

I don't think many people deny it flat out they just disagree with the specifics of it, including several red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:41 PM
6

I'm not hot enough to be intimidating. And this isn't just true for bar hookups, it's happened for dating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:30 PM
3

Even at 20 in perfect athletic shape I couldn't get a boyfriend, and my face isn't busted or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:25 PM
3

Yeah I'm just saying I've never developed nonsense to put up with since I've never been that sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:21 PM
5

I've seen it way too many times to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:17 PM
6

See, I could never do stuff like that. I don't see the wall drastically changing my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:15 PM
6

That's a good point haha simply by virtue of dating men her own age she's dating less attractive men than before
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:13 PM
5

That's weird. All the women I know getting married in their 30s are doing so to much hotter men than they previously dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:12 PM
3

Runners use it as a term for that painful point in a race when your legs don't seem able to move as fast anymore. That's the only way I heard the term before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:11 PM
1

Men age faster, die sooner
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:04 PM
6

This isn't true either. I've been rejected/neglected in favor of women ~10 years older than me and I'm not fat or hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 07:02 PM
1

Alpha men dgaf about wives
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 06:30 PM
1

I didn't take it. I already know I'm weird. How did you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 05:10 PM
1

Look how cute they are! I'd third wheel for them of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 05:09 PM
2

Face transplants yo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 05:08 PM
1

It doesn't hurt that one of them is married to my actual girl crush. 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 05:05 PM
1

Jeff Winger speeches contain the answers to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 05:01 PM
2

Future technology will be amazing no worries
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 01:41 PM
1

Men like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 01:40 PM
1

Idk, my dermatologist as a kid said the fat stores on my face meant it hadn't reached its final form. That was around 17-18. I told you I was recently mistaken for "still growing." I just don't think I'm some super rare case and generally believe women who say that they genuinely peaked after their teens. Development takes awhile and The average age it starts at for girls is 14. *Plus she says her body looks better now and haven't you argued how important body is to guys for SMV? We have butterf…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 01:36 PM
4

Cowardice is the weakness of humankind. True courage is being honest with yourself, and answering to nobody else. Either way, it's for them. That's what's weak. Allow the wisdom of Community to wash over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 01:11 PM
2

Awww adorable lovable mischievous smiles! And they loved their gramma
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:59 PM
2

So cute and friendly and funny
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:52 PM
2

I wish I was born a Franco! They seem like good family men huh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:40 PM
1

Will do! Hey you guys have a movie now and everything. I think it's a pretty small fraction of red pillers who don't have any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:33 AM
2

I only blame shift because feminism and society socialized me to!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:24 AM
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I have seen this countless times in academics and athletics where the guys will blame a bad performance on any external forces they can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:19 AM
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And every member of TRP in turn blames feminism, women, their moms, or a gynocentric society for their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:17 AM
2

It might be a thing within my family/culture, although I think it exists within many. My parents already express active desire to be hands-on grandparents. Maybe they'll travel a couple of times a year in retirement which will be fine to handle. Anyways, even with the kids being taken care of by my folks during most of the daytime, there will still be times when you or I have to be the bad guy to them. Anyone I think about marrying will already know that I refuse to become the sitcom stereotype …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 11:59 PM
2

You never heard the stereotype of the woman who can't help but be a people pleaser, putting everyone's happiness before her own?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:44 PM
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Haha I'm like you. I want to be the "fun parent." Not the one that has to deal with all the grossness and unpleasantness. I'm kinda counting on my parents taking care of mine, like my mom's dad did for them. People get old and they miss and love having babies around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 03:38 PM
3

If anything the married part made me hesitate. I thought he was really cute before finding out he was married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 09:54 PM
1

Which part is relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 08:27 PM
4

Women loving men like men love women would be very very very bad for women. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:50 PM
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Well I think they ideally want to dictate who women marry at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:41 PM
1

Yeah probably. I was pretty desperate at 19 I couldn't seem to give it away. Can we make JFK younger though? 19yo me wasn't into old guys. I let a married guy touch my butt does that count as an affair? He didn't have any status I know of though he was just cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:27 PM
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I don't believe that someone who cannot understand basic reasoning and logic could ever be considered above average intelligence, no offense to your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 02:51 PM
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It's hard to have a rational discussion with women about things because they don't seem to understand cause and effect. They don't seem to be able to grasp how their actions will lead to certain outcomes even when you explain it very clearly and slowly to them. Can you give an example? Your whole comment sounds as if you are talking about some particular instance. I do not believe most women are this obtuse. Most children over 10 can recognize cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 02:49 PM
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Yeah just because it's good flirting advice doesn't mean women literally stop maturing and learning and about life sooner than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 02:20 AM
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Some people claim it is literal, as discussed in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 10:55 PM
4

You live in a silly willy world don't ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 10:39 PM
2

Ew vaginas no thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:35 PM
1

If you're a woman and you're working hard to get into a relationship it's because you're objectifying men and can't see them for who they are as people. Why do you believe this? How could a woman work better at getting into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:26 PM
2

Then everyone should just date man-brained women!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:21 PM
2

Why not anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:18 PM
3

What's the rock looking stuff? And chocolate milk on your chocolate cereal?! You really are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 09:14 PM
2

My mom loves this show so much that she bought the book to find out what happens next. She just couldn't stand the wait!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:58 PM
3

What is it then, and how does it fix everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:32 PM
2

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/64boae/comment/dg1agjw?st=J1B57GZ9&sh=c0ca6a52
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:29 PM
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Why does it have to be a long heart to heart? How about "hey, can you not?" If this woman instead calls her bestie and rants for hours about how his behavior is making her feel and his actions never change, that's supposed to fix everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 08:16 PM
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I can't see why it wouldn't help. Or how telling ones girlfriends about it is any better. Unless you're putting "what's wrong" in quotations because you're talking about weird women who invent problems that they don't want solutions to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:57 PM
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Honest, I didn't mean it as a joke! I hope you've told it to your fiancé, since it really is very sweet and I bet she'd love to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:47 PM
2

What are the family oriented skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:46 PM
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37
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 05:37 PM
8

But then she leaves and he's all "I never saw it coming, why didn't she tell me what was wrong" as we see pretty often here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:16 PM
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I thought it was a response to shit tests!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:10 PM
2

I must be using emojis wrong, I hereby demote myself down to the basics :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:07 PM
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Apparently all the men I've been with communicate in womanese and I need to learn it too. This is not something exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 04:04 PM
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Jeez...I was being totally serious :( I found that adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 03:10 PM
1

Well if that isn't just the sweetest thing.... ❤️️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 07:16 AM
2

What is this one particular quality??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/17 03:34 AM
2

I was going to suggest bartending too! Or not limiting himself so much by age, since plenty of people in their early 30s party and do so better since they actually have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 11:17 PM
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Yeah!! He'll end up wishing he hadn't spent 32 wishing he was still 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 10:53 PM
5

Women today are just so fat and lazy they can't even run 20 miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 09:12 PM
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You'll never be in your twenties again. Can you still experience the club scene as a 32yo? Probably. Most things are possible. But imagine someone asking this question about going back to college to experience that again. Of course it's not going to be the very same as your freshman year in the dorms, because you're not an 18yo kid anymore, but it's possible to find a different role you could fit into there at your age. If you're going to discriminate and seek to socialize only with the scene of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 08:15 PM
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I thought that showed that status was not as important as looks, since they said yes to an attractive celebrity (Depp) and no to an unattractive celebrity (Trump) as often as men said yes to an attractive one (Jolie) and no to an unattractive one (Barr).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 07:08 PM
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That doesn't change that the commenter you linked to doesn't believe her experience is average. You also posted it as a response to this: TRP has its followers convinced that women are constantly banging random guys, which just isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 06:05 PM
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Again it sounds like you're describing the female traditional gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 06:03 PM
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Of course you don't call out the one answer that confirms your beliefs as a liar. Most people don't go to party schools or engage in Greek life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 05:12 PM
1

She doesn't believe her experience is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 05:11 PM
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I thought that providing sex and comfort was essentially the female gender role?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 03:52 PM
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But it's almost time for me to become a nagging bitch!!! Jk, I wouldn't even know how to bitch at someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:02 PM
2

I'm still unsure what you mean when you say alpha, whether you're just using it for behaviors that are attractive to you or if you mean it in the sense of how a man falls on a social hierarchy. Either way, my reaction to your initial comment is the same. I feel free to be goofy and cute in the presence of the large majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 11:01 PM
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But who is saying males must adhere to these roles? Who is forcing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 08:00 PM
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Just because I didn't share your experience doesn't mean I have any issues with it, at all. I'm not sure what's giving you that impression. I just don't think you should be surprised that you're having difficulty finding agreement when you use your own definitions for words that have already been established to mean something different on this subreddit. It is a somewhat common problem here, as it makes it very hard to reach an understanding when people are using the same word to mean totally di…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 07:44 PM
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Dude, I'm a lady. Why would you write an appeal to masculine men on TRP and use TRP terminology like alpha and beta if you disagree with them on basic aspects of the definitions of those words?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:58 PM
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As I just commented elsewhere, a man who makes no sexual advances towards a flirtatious woman is definitely a beta, while the alpha thing to do is to make no hesitation sexualizing her. So maybe you actually love the presence of beta men. And sure I agree enough with your second paragraph. Perhaps your actions just come off that much more overtly sexual which is why you find it rare to receive attention other than sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:44 PM
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I find it confusing too. This definition of alpha is definitely contradicting with TRP, where you'll read that alpha men always sexualize and make sexual advances on women. Not putting sexual pressure on a flirty woman sounds like the definition of beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:38 PM
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Who specifically has attacked you for it? Definitely not every single commenter here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:33 PM
1

I'm not sure many red pillers would agree with you that sexualizing you or making a move is the less masculine or more beta choice that a man could make. Anyway, I have a theory that it's more so how I behave that affects the man's feelings and behavior than it is the reverse. I can be girlish and carefree in almost any situation and guys react by being protective and playful with me, not by showing me overt sexual attention, in the large majority of cases. So either all the guys I know are just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 06:31 PM
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Lol we don't have HR. A different coworker already joked about that with me when I accidentally said something dirty. Where else am I supposed to meet cuties? I met one at a bar after work on a weekday and he turned out to be super married with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 02:55 AM
1

I have major oneitis for a work crush right now and it's been so long since I've boned that I'm super nervous about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 02:33 AM
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Of course, when it's all I see around me, I go with that. Same here. Somehow I'm seeing totally different things around me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 02:25 AM
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Confirmation (and stereotype) bias perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:56 AM
2

But it's incorrect!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 01:54 AM
2

I bet I could marry him if I wanted to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 12:43 AM
2

Getting married shows you didn't read TRP well enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 12:17 AM
2

Just because your mom and wife are bad at talking about this stuff doesn't mean that all moms are! I know a lot who have given basically red pill advice to their sons. My own mom always accurately called which girls were going to be trouble for my brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 12:13 AM
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But she would tell him what wub (a man) wanted to be told as a kid. It is manly advice, not advice that would feminize the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 12:10 AM
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Failure to launch?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:49 PM
1

Free rent and mom-cooked meals is not so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:48 PM
1

I could respond with my own story of being content while being single and then we'd be tit for tat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:39 PM
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My mommy packs my lunch too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:37 PM
2

Your girlfriends friends don't plan events or talk about things other than guys?? Bizarro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:35 PM
2

Are you a woman? This all sounds totally backwards to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:31 PM
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Can't relate at all. I already feel completely free to be a childish ball of silly energy all day long, even when there's no men around!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:59 PM
1

You're a silly little cutie!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:38 PM
1

Why do you say D.C. has more late bloomers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 08:21 PM
3

So all 23 year old women have standards that are too high? At what age do you believe women lower their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:30 PM
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You said you didn't even look at hers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 07:09 PM
1

Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:57 PM
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When men complain that there are no marriageable women left, are their standards just too high?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 06:56 PM
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She wants a guy who shares her religious beliefs. Chad don't go to church.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:12 PM
2

Regular sex is not a main reason to get married. It's about creating a family with your favorite person in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:09 PM
3

Yep so many people like me living with parents well into their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:06 PM
2

Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 05:03 PM
2

Where are the stats on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:56 PM
3

Her standards are not really high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:50 PM
1

Is that too old now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 04:43 PM
3

That lady looks perfectly girly and adorable to me, I see no bad ratios!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:23 PM
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But I think they'd be more successful than ones where the woman goes along with incorrectness and both end up making damaging decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:45 PM
2

Periods aren't that bad! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:38 PM
1

He has such a cute personality!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:31 PM
1

What's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:31 PM
1

Never seen him before. He's cute!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:29 PM
1

Who is cute to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:24 PM
5

I never heard of this problem before PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:22 PM
2

What part looks masculine? I think she's cute
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:14 PM
4

Yeah! They did more physical jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:13 PM
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I'm saying it's not a huge problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:11 PM
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I lift! No career though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:10 PM
5

There's like one of those that is repeatedly posted here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:07 PM
4

Yes that counts!!! People should stop dismissing it as "lol women are crazy."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 03:50 AM
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People should talk about toxic femininity. It's trying to live up to a feminine standard that ends up being a detriment to the individuals life and her influence on those around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:45 PM
1

and asking permission to eat and go to the bathroom. I used to do this as a kid!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:43 PM
2

Lol 69
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 10:45 PM
1

Trying and failing is better than not trying at all, the latter always gives regret. Very true!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:59 PM
3

You haven't changed my mind. If I become convinced that TRP is correct about men then there will be no point in ever trying to be loved by one. I'll never be what any man actually wants, just something he begrudgingly settles for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:55 PM
2

Yes he described unfeminine LOOKS but then feminine behaviors. A masculine woman would handle her shit and not blame others for her problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:29 PM
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I mean, that's something men typically give up for an LTR. All women deal with this. I don't want him to "give up" what he really wants and be what he settles for, or somehow seduce him into something that goes against his true desires. That wouldn't make me happy. Its affected by it, there's many facets of a man's love. Plus, I know some grandmas that are beautiful for their age, if a woman stays fit she can retain her beauty forever really. Haven't you seen TRP? Women are "depreciating assets"…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:26 PM
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want traditional feminine qualities in their women, not dyed hair, tattoos, shaved heads, hairy armpit Those things are unfeminine. The rest of his comment actually describes feminine women, since over-emotionality and victim mentalities are feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:12 PM
3

TRP seems to think it makes them self-destructive, solipsistic, and unable to successfully make decisions about their own life, especially with regards to men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:58 PM
3

💓
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:57 PM
3

I'll never be enough if all men actually desire multiple young women. How could I possibly be? And if male love is dependent upon looks then of course he'll love me even less as time goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:55 PM
2

I can't see why evolution would create women to be the way TRP believes them to be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:52 PM
5

Most of what you mentioned is about appearance. That's what atlas and boobs said, men want women who look feminine, but think more like men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:46 PM
2

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I was just pointing out a commonly noted downside to it. I do give guys compliments on their looks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:37 PM
2

Oh I'm not nearly cool enough to act like atlas or an Australian hooker. I think today I'll do my hair and go to the park and troll for hot dads
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:29 PM
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I am one of the few red pillers who keeps pointing out that fading looks aren't really the problem for post-wall women and how it's many other factors that make it difficult for them on the dating market in their 30s. What is the problem then? Things that are under their control? I do remember you saying that you prefer dating women your own age. I'd try to find a partner before hitting 30. After that I'd try to stay as attractive as possible and rely on wife goggles. Wife goggles aren't real th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:21 PM
2

TBH I never understood getting mad at the other girl. I just think my love for him would shut down completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:16 PM
6

You're the one who believes the wall is super real. You'd prefer to be in the position of those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:07 PM
3

Omg he's so cute
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:05 PM
1

Aw, I'll give it a shot....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:05 PM
6

It seems those kind of values are rare now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:02 PM
7

I, personally would like to be loved just for my looks. Even if that ended at age 25 no matter what you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:58 PM
2

Omg George of the jungle 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:50 PM
1

What about banana chocolate smoothies?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:41 PM
1

That's an interesting thought
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:41 PM
1

So I need to hang out at the beach?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:38 PM
1

Other men here have claimed they fall in love on sight or very quickly. I've even read RP articles stating that a man's love doesn't grow, if it's not there from the start then it never will be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:35 PM
1

break his favorite toy Like her leg or arm?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:33 PM
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If TRP is true then I'll never be enough for any man to be content with and he'll only love me so much less as I age so what's the fucking point. Knowing all that, I'd just feel super guilty marrying a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:32 PM
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Only mildly gross. I kinda just base it off of how my romantic attempts go since I think I look alright but figure people can't totally judge themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:29 PM
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Team man is real omg
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:17 PM
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Interesting that they still responded (with some long ass paragraphs too), and claim that it's only women who push their sexual imperative!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:15 PM
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I think social influence is hugely impactful. Before a baby is even born, the first question asked is "is it a boy or a girl?" People will treat the exact same baby drastically different when it's dressed as either a male or female. They will make assumptions and steer it towards different interests right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:11 PM
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I guess I disagree then. Everyone expects women to "just get it."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:09 PM
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I never even spoke to the Chads!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:08 PM
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No it's more like if this is how men actually think then why bother
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:07 PM
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Irish skin goes from pasty to lobster
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:06 PM
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They've no reason not to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:01 PM
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Bay Area California dude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:00 PM
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Then men don't fall in love as easily as they claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:59 PM
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I know a woman who is fighting cervical cancer caused by the HPV that her husband picked up while sleeping around. Heartbreaking, life-ending stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:59 PM
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"Weird"? It's disgusting. Punished how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:54 PM
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I've made it very clear and still been turned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:54 AM
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RP men will also say "our pure male love allows us to fall in love on sight" yet a man literally banging another woman poses no risk to her relationship? The feelings you feel for me are easily replicated by any other woman you can bang? Awesome,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:14 AM
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Nah, it's an unattractive attitude. No one says it's never justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:26 AM
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I've asked online.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:16 AM
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I tried that before though. I literally passed notes in high school to the cute quiet guys and flirted hard (for me) with the quieter guys in college. Could be that I'm just uglier and/or weirder than I think. But people tend to tell me that's not the case so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:11 AM
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Aww gramma ❤️ Could you be happy with a 28yo woman though? Or...god forbid...even older??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:57 AM
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I mean, I went to high school and college. Now I spend most of my free time inside lol but I do have a job that forces me to interact with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:56 AM
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Never been fat. Don't think I'm ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:52 AM
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Can post-wall men be happy with post-wall women? And the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:51 AM
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"good looking, kind guys" Hey, didn't I say this??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:46 AM
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26YO POST WALL UGGO
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:43 AM
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Quiet girls like myself are not in any way knowably adored by quiet guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:39 AM
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Nope, it's men revealing just how much they ignore these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:36 AM
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So an old guy got with an old lady? THE INJUSTICE 😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:35 AM
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Ok, you think it's manly to stop trusting someone who broke a mostly convincing and serious promise that they made to you. Does that not make it a rational decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:30 AM
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AWALT is more than be prepared for the worst, the reaction to AWALT is never falter and never stop growing. I believe this is all that the other commenters are suggesting is best for women to do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:27 AM
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Red pill men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:24 AM
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So I just Wikipedia'ed them and apparently they are close relatives? Schlafly was the aunt of conservative anti-feminist author Suzanne Venker; together they wrote The Flipside of Feminism: What Conservative Women Know — and Men Can't Say. Maybe everyone already knows this?! But I was like hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:24 AM
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But he looks so old in that pic! Was it an ugly middle aged woman? 🐒
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 02:06 AM
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Are you saying women with SA have it worse than women with autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:57 AM
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Nah it happens from a young age so it's probably biological. You don't think children are influenced by socialization?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:54 AM
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Agreed! Women are held to higher expectations in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:52 AM
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Same! And I didn't get any dates...I actively sought out opportunities to work on my lacking social skills, like taking a public speaking class and trying out for a school play. I forced myself into these horrifying and humiliating situations that were as a sort of fucked up attempt at exposure therapy to cure my fears and practice my skills. I saw around me how much social adeptness would improve my life so I did whatever I could to improve myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:46 AM
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Nah, guys don't even like women with no social skills. Women have a higher standard of expectations from everyone as far as social skills go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:40 AM
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I think this personality flaw is a pretty big one. Guys won't see her as worth the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:38 AM
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There is a way of being shy and quiet that I'm sure is very attractive to some men but there is another way that can make a girl seem off-putting and unapproachable. That's kind of the point of this OP. Men aren't really attracted to or even notice the truly awkward and shy types.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:34 AM
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I was a hot young thing once and guys who were strangers hit on me all the time. Here is another thing. I'm mistaken on a near daily basis now that I'm working in retail for being a teenager. I can't go to a bar without someone expressing their skepticism that I'm legally allowed in there. This, however, does NOT usually translate to the guy hitting on me. I'll get "wow you look way too young to be here" but this isn't normally followed with sexual interest, even when I assure that I am older th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 01:04 AM
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That average/unattractive women are showered with male attention. I've even seen blue pillers making similar claims (more in the tone of "every woman has to deal with unwanted attention, turning down male friends for romance, etc") and it kinda makes me wonder if I'm even grosser than I thought since I don't typically experience these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:26 PM
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Cuss turd
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:20 PM
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I would also argue these things!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 04:00 PM
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It's about the differences between men and women. Your idea of the interests of the average woman and the incompatibility of the sexes seems aligned with TRP to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:37 AM
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I thought I could recall you saying you didn't prefer the super young ones anymore. Or does that just mean you like them at 16 instead of 14 now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 08:15 PM
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What's the difference between women and girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:41 PM
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That's not really what I was talking about. You said that women used to marry men they weren't sexually attracted to which is commonly stated by red pillers as a big modern problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:30 PM
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Maybe it's an upper class thing? Most of these kids came from successful parents and it was simply expected that they'd take AP classes and go to very good colleges (Stanford for more than a couple). Plus in a very liberal part of the country where parents are cool with their kids having parties and doing drugs in their million dollar homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:27 PM
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How are beta men checking out? I don't see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:09 PM
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And what's confusing is guys who think this was somehow a better system while also saying that women marrying men they aren't sexually attracted to is a major problem that leads to dead bedrooms or duty sex at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:08 PM
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Not any?? Bizarro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:43 PM
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I was more trying to illustrate how smart they were that they knew how to do that. I know for a fact that they were stoners. They were the group of people I hung out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 06:40 PM
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Basing this off the fact that you think men and women have virtually nothing in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 04:04 PM
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He was really handsome and charming in older movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 11:52 PM
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The AP kids in my high school were the biggest partiers and stoners. They'd plot marijuana leaves on their graphing calculators. They were naturally smart and didn't need to spend that much time on school. It was a social group, we all partied together, were a prom group, etc because we took all the same classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 11:35 PM
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Yay some actual hotties
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 11:22 PM
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No, I have always prefered to date in my age range. But most (not all) of the women I meet who are interesting, nice and fun are younger than me. I can't quite compute this. Why/how do you prefer dating women your own age if all the fun and nice women are younger than you? I don't need a virgin, just one who isn't an alpha widow and doesn't do AFBB. So someone who always liked betas/LTRs, and doesn't seem ruined by any one in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 11:18 PM
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When they say "single mother" I believe they mean a woman who purposely had a child out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:48 PM
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Oh I'm glad you have enjoyed getting to know these women then! Hopefully that has outweighed your disappointment. When was your last LTR? Would you only consider dating a young woman? Maybe only a virginal one?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:46 PM
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No pregnancy and childbirth!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 10:24 PM
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How would you make them feel bad about their slutty pasts? Would they bring it up on their own? Would you tell her that she was too slutty for right after having sex with her? :P I'd say I'm glad you've met some nice women but it sounds like you're not enjoying that at all. I too am very prone to guilt when it comes to dating. It's made my life simpler to be single for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:47 PM
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I'd rather he be pleasantly surprised when I do wear a lot of makeup than be unpleasantly surprised the first time he sees me without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:19 PM
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I also can't get past feeling like I'm sort of lying when wearing it, even though I don't wear a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:06 PM
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Aww what a bummer. I know you were so very looking forward to that!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:24 PM
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These answers also confuse me. I guess that means less competition for the men I want though!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:16 PM
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But ugly offspring!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:02 PM
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I can't wear it without worrying about it all day. I just feel so much better without it. Plus I do think it negatively affects my skin which in turn creates more need for it..it's a vicious cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:20 PM
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And I definitely disagree about why Brad Pitt used to be hotter. Also both he and Clooney could've married a hot teenager and both chose accomplished women in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 06:14 PM
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More shallow, but less picky and less discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:20 PM
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I don't think the difference is necessarily significant. Like OP said it depends on genetics, but I know so many women who look pretty much the same in their 30s as they did in their 20s. Women age slower than men do. Look how much earlier men die. And men tend to be the poorest judges of age. Now that I have some older friends, I know that a 35yo with A+ facial aesthetics and body shape will get more attention than a 25yo with an average body and face (me), especially from guys in their age gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:01 PM
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the older you become, the less prettier you become". More like, "the older you look." OP gave good examples of women who easily still look young and bangable, and are probably your mom's age. TRP says "any 20 year old is hotter than the hottest 30 year old" yet there are a ton of women who look hotter at 35 than I looked at any age in my life. The very large majority of men are less attractive with age, especially to young girls. Women in their thirties I think are less discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:30 PM
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My mom looks effortlessly 10 years younger than she is too. She easily can drink a bottle of wine in a night and doesn't go to the gym or anything like that. She only uses Lubriderm. It makes me mostly very optimistic but also kinda bummed to look at her post-second-pregnancy pics that are skinnier than I've ever been lol. OTOH my half sister has been overweight most of her adulthood and still has an adorably young face. At 33 she married the hottest guy she ever dated (in my opinion, and hers I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:54 PM
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Totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 03:39 PM
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Only Netflix is recognizable to me and guys love that too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:27 AM
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That makes sense to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 09:26 AM
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Why is that a bad sign?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:30 AM
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Then why did OP specify that bragging about it was the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 08:07 AM
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Obviously I'm just curious about a man's reaction to it if I were to act as if I was...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:30 AM
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True story
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:18 AM
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Jeez...your standards of feminine are crazy low
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 07:18 AM
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I do what I want!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:44 AM
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I've got good news for people who love bad news
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:42 AM
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Don't tell my dad!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:41 AM
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I was just curious! Would the same apply to telling you about past promiscuity? The issue seems to be willingness to brag about these things, not the simple fact that they happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:13 AM
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Maybe I'll just describe myself and see how many upvotes it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:07 AM
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Is that different from or similar to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:03 AM
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So if she tells you about past petty crime remorsefully, is that not a red flag? I do agree with you. Bragging about it is very high school and uncool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 05:00 AM
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Hmm...my idea of frenemy is a girl who acts like your friend to your face but shit talks and sabotages you behind your back. My idea of "I don't get along with other girls" is a girl who largely avoids female friendships even on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:39 AM
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I think having "frenemies" and being a behind-the-back bitch to people that believe they are their friends is one too. If they can convincingly deceive and betray supposed friends like that, what makes you think they'll be any better to you? It's a bad sign in a dude too, I just mention it as it is a female stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 04:32 AM
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I'm not sure I fully do anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 12:05 AM
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TBH I just skimmed it as it's a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 12:04 AM
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I don't think OP was explicitly discouraging anyone. He simply stated facts as he sees them. In fact he pointed out that he said everyone should aim to be the best they can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 11:47 PM
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Makes me think of Joseph Gordon Levitt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 09:29 PM
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I strongly believe in this. Not joking at all. So many important life lessons to be learned through athletics as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 08:57 PM
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I believe all men and women of all ages should be on a lifting regiment of some kind and partaking in physically exerting activity every day of their lives. Human beings are some of the earth's greatest athletes and to deny yourself an athletic life is to go against nature. I think many of our modern mental issues stem from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 08:44 PM
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You seem to be arguing that his points are harmful and that he shouldn't be expressing them. That's what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 08:32 PM
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I never said you weren't doing both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 08:29 PM
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I think it is a fair analogy, when the idea behind the wall is similar to his claim here (i.e. that your attractiveness is largely out of your control due to genetics for men or age for women).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 08:28 PM
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The point of this place is to debate which theories are valid and which aren't. If I disagree that the wall is a valid theory, then it's just as correct for me to derail the conversation by saying it's discouraging women with lies. You're arguing against his points based on how they might make people feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 08:22 PM
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If this were TRP it would be one thing, but why does it matter if someone's argument is potentially discouraging to some people on PPD? If I said some post on "the wall" on this sub was "discouraging" to women, who would care? Why would it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:58 PM
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Yep, even if she works out it can help her overall body composure but I don't think most guys are paying that much attention honestly. And there is plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:53 PM
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I agree that physical activity is important for mental health. Human beings are meant to be physically active.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:51 PM
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I think you have a man crush!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:38 PM
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I mostly agree with the overall premise here, although with some minor caveats. Like you say there's nothing a woman of normal weight can do to improve her SMV, while I think there are some things she can do but they won't be especially significant improvements. I find it strange that RPers are arguing against how strongly genes factor into athletic potential. I agree with you about genetics and the wall. I've said here before that I'm consistently mistaken for ten years younger than I am to whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 07:25 PM
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Lol "pimp squid game play"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 06:31 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:50 AM
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But you guys say you don't care about a woman having a career or being interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:27 AM
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I've seen it work out loads of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:24 AM
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Most of them looked really uncomfortable..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:21 AM
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You seem to agree with them about a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 12:03 AM
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OP gave examples of alpha traits "for the sake of discussion" and those were not included. A guy can have a sense of humor and that doesn't affect whether he's aggressive and detached or warm and loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:46 PM
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I don't think those things are necessarily alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:43 PM
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First date at 22 first sex at 20...missed my prime years!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:38 PM
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Omg I am shocked at you early bloomers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:37 PM
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Hot kind guys are literally peak SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:34 PM
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>Sports are legit = you play sports competitively. A lot of women play competitive sports. I'm one of them. That's where all my male and female friends come from. It's really, really not that rare. A lot of people will do cardio activities like running and hiking and swimming that have huge amounts of overlap. >Which study (we've referenced a bunch.. the Wolfinger one?) They had multiple partner counts for various people. I'm not sure what you're asking. By n count I actually meant sample size t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:26 PM
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Right, like I said it's not about women not being like that, it's about you not developing close relationships like that with women. Idk you still seem to set a low bar for women in general...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:59 PM
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You were deflowered by an actual Stacy! And in the 6th grade?? You went to public school didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:44 PM
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But TV shows are a pretty lame topic to connect with someone over. It's one step above sport and weather small talk. You can say the same thing for sports. I used to play sports in high school (I didn't grow up in the US, though I live here now, and sports weren't that big where I grew up) and had some friends through that, too. Other guys would certainly make friends in competitive sports. Sports are shallow, then sports are a legit way to make friends. Different games and different exercise me…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:35 PM
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At least you recognize there are girls like that out there ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:17 PM
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You actually said television shows were comparable to weather or sport...I realize this was why I was mainly questioning why you then said that sport was actually plenty for men to bond over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:04 PM
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It's not true for younger people. I think male/female friendships are extremely common and it is unusual not to have any. My female friends and I never, ever, "Facebook stalk" or even clothes shop together. Whatever your interests, there's a good amount of both men and women who are into them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:59 PM
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Seriously mine would be the opposite, a red flag for getting easily angered.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:57 PM
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You can't trust anyone who doesn't like dogs or chocolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:56 PM
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Every guy I know has close female friends.. I mean, how would I even know the guys who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:55 PM
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Do you believe women lose value with an increase in n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:48 PM
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I doubt it's that you don't know any women "like that" and more that you haven't developed relationships like that with any women. Then again, you do seem to attract weird awful women around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:47 PM
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I'm way more likely to run away from a guy displaying alpha personality traits. To this day I swear I've never gotten close to one let alone banged one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:42 PM
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Yes! The hottest guys I know were LTR oriented, always with a girlfriend and a couple soon to be married. The guys with higher n counts were less attractive but would aim to increase that number every weekend and every chance they could. No one could honestly say with a straight face that the guys in the former category had lower SMV than those in the latter. They wanted different things and made different choices. Of course it's unfathomable to TRP that a high SMV guy would have a beta strategy…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:37 PM
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It sounds like you were still just as if not more affected by him than the men you are condemning for doing the opposite. If a man follows his fathers footsteps merely because it's what his father did then sure that seems weird but it seems even weirder to avoid something for the same reason. If you believe in TRP and genetic influence it's strange to believe that you wouldn't be inclined towards the same things as your close male ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:29 PM
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In any relationship, the person with the most power is the one who needs the other the least. The overarching concept here is that the person in the relationship with the superior sexual market value will at least be perceived by the person of lesser value to need them less than the other. https://therationalmale.com/2013/06/20/smv-ratios-attachment/ You may think it's "a woman's game" but there are hundreds of articles like this one specifically advising men how to maintain their LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:18 PM
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This is totally different from what I was talking about, which was LTR game.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:40 AM
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How's that now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 07:38 AM
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Good looking duh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:11 AM
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Men complain about women complaining more than women actually complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:07 AM
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Nope you were. Eat my shorts jabroni.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 06:05 AM
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No, I mean my best male and female friends are all through athletics. Like you described, we all bonded over competitive sports. We share the same competitive and team mentalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:59 AM
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By "red pilllers disagree with you" I didn't mean ALL red pillers disagree with you. The fact that multiple did negates your claim that saying those women are above average is just the work of some feminist conspiracy. Just like when you said "men love average women more than attractive women" most people probably don't assume you meant literally every single man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:57 AM
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No, you stated male interests and then said that tv shows (as something that men and women can share) were hardly something to bond over, so I was asking if you believed video games and going to the gym were really what men bond over, not that one was better than the other. I don't believe they have a different mentality. I can't speak for video games but almost all of my friends are through athletics and fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:48 AM
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How can you see something without looking at it? You earlier said that male interests are video games and sports/gym. Are those somehow deeper things to connect over than television shows or board games? Either way, plenty of women are interested in video games and working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:40 AM
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It didn't prove my statement wrong, my statement was that red pillers disagree with you. Why the fuck would I care that you don't like white girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:24 AM
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Wow!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:12 AM
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You're the one looking at the hours worth of content that they post on Facebook...you're not likely to notice the ones who aren't on Facebook, are you now? The idea that no significant number of men and women even enjoy the same tv shows or board games or topics of conversation is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:47 AM
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Most women are into clothes shopping and Facebook stalking I have a ton of female friends and none of them are into those things. I guess smurfy has a point, as if you had more female friends you might have a more accurate idea of what women are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:22 AM
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Like there was a tech void in my family so I just moved into it naturally, and there was a religious/philosophical void too and I moved into that also. You were just as influenced by your father and family as someone who decides to follow in their dads footsteps, by purposely avoiding what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:20 AM
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I would definitely feel the same. I don't find it to be that common and I would appreciate the display of family values.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:18 AM
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actually have been meaning to make a post about this for years That's a square on PPD bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:08 AM
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I disagreed with that one too. I'm very close with my family and I'd want a guy who was close with his.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:06 AM
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Using cop-out statements like "women aren't inferior to men, we're just different. It's just that men are good at some things like being honorable, loving, kind and just while women are good at other things like manipulation, being bitchy and shallow!" This is one of my biggest pet peeves here so I can't imagine how I'd react if I encountered this kind of attitude irl
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 03:02 AM
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I don't see what that has to do with what I wrote. Are you saying rollo suggests dating an older woman since her SMV will be lower? I'm almost sure I saw the advice to dip 2 points down on TRP itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 02:42 AM
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What would be sexist (and advised by TRP if I were to guess) would be to impose this rule on his wife and not hold himself to the same standard. This just seems respectful and kinda sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 02:39 AM
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Even red pill men are telling you you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 02:38 AM
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Well you just said you don't really want that cosmic honor. So I'm not sure what you're complaining about. It's not sexist to want to protect women, I never said that it was. It's sexist to believe that a woman's purpose is predeterminedly limited to that one thing and that men are necessarily superior at every other thing that isn't a natural bodily function that requires no skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 02:37 AM
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She looks prettier than the first girl to me. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. *besides, 80 vs 52 upvotes is nothing to base anything on really, and like ARS said, you don't know who's voting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:28 PM
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In what world is that girl average?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:21 PM
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