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I'd rather get hurt a thousand times than see my wife get hurt once, it's hard coded into the genome of men. One of our most basic fundamental roles is to protect our family/community/tribe. Having contempt for death is vital for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:38 PM
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If you're not fat and you have a cute face you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Men aren't complex when it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:12 AM
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Some guys just like spicy women I guess. Like it tastes great but it burns the shit out of your mouth at the same time, and you keep coming back for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:43 PM
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Yes, if this is really the source of your quarrel with men you might as well shout at the sky because nature is your enemy. Men and women aren't equals, when the reality is that most women cannot bench press even 100 lbs to save their life you can recognize that the genders are built to accomplish different tasks. I greatly value the contributions women make to humanity, namely in their ability to nurture children and show compassion towards others, but leadership is a naturally male domain. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:19 AM
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You can twist my words to feel good about yourself if you want but none of that is what I said. My wife has a voice and she stands up for herself whenever she wants, I don't think women have to be a doormat. All that I ask for in a relationship is some level of deference in my ability to lead, if a woman doesn't trust in my ability to lead then it's pretty reasonable to say she shouldn't be my partner. I've never had trouble with women, even the annoying left wing ones. The funny thing about wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:07 AM
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Saying it's not universal doesn't magically disprove the hard data you can see with a 5 second google search. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender 98% of all homicides on earth are perpetrated by men according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. So yeah, that figure is pretty astounding. Plugging your ears and covering your eyes while shouting "I can't hear you" is a pretty infantile way to avoid admitting you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:45 AM
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what the fuck is that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:41 AM
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Everything I said is a matter of personal experience. I don't share my political opinions with random women irl. The amount of generic purple haired feminist ladies will depend on the location you're in, generally outside of big cities and campus towns I've found most women tend to be pretty apolitical. This is important to me because I would never consider dating or having any kind of a relationship with a left wing woman or one who idolizes feminism. I would strongly recommend other men avoid …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:40 AM
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Yeah I mean the reality is women will naturally gravitate towards a man they trust and see as morally good. Women are overwhelmingly more inclined than men to defer to those they see as leadership and authority figures, this is reflected in personal relationships just as much as it is in the wider sociopolitical arena. In my experience a lot more women are apolitical than men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:27 AM
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It is absolutely universal, men are universally more violent than women by orders of magnitude across every single culture on earth. Go ahead and prove me wrong, post stats for a single country anywhere on the planet where women are committing violent crimes at a rate that outpaces men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:24 AM
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Hormones are absolutely associated with aggression and violence, namely serum testosterone. Of which the average man possesses 10x+ the serum testosterone levels of the average woman. It also influences more physical outcomes such as muscular hypertrophy, strength, skeletal density, hypertrophy of the heart, and hypertension.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:22 AM
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Just curious, what proportion of men versus women commit homicides and assaults? Across every country on the planet there is an enormous disparity here. The data doesn't point to men and women being similar behaviorally, let alone physiologically. Women are overwhelmingly non aggressive and non violent, not because every culture on earth magically brainwashed women into being submissive and passive but because those traits are inherent to their hormonal composition. Nearly 100% of all military c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:47 AM
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There's actually a lot more nuance involved than that, but yes introducing complex multi faceted societal issues on early dates isn't a great idea. Equality doesn't exist and it never did, it's an artificial fabrication. Women aren't less valuable than men but we aren't the same physiologically. The highest level of female athletics will never come close to the mid level of male athletics, that sexual dimorphism exists for a reason. Men are the natural leaders and protectors of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:46 AM
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Personally I would do everything in my power to avoid talking about politics with women as a conservative guy. I did not have trouble dating but I learned very quickly that most women are either apolitical or have typical shitty campus feminist opinions. The best women out there are apolitical, there's no need to talk politics especially early on because if they see you as a good man and become infatuated with you they will naturally gravitate towards your ideological positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:53 AM
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I don't think there's a dislike of women themselves so much as a dislike of the consequences of destroying the social contract to achieve women's liberation. Monogamy and traditional gender roles are among the most stabilizing elements in society, we've lost those along with the cohesion and stability that comes with it. Basically the society feminism has given us sucks more than what we had before in every conceivable way. Feminism leads to a fractured atomized culture, pervasive loneliness and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:44 AM
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Just wondering if there's any double standards here when you say "life is unfair, deal with it" we can definitely make life unfair but what if we make it unfair for the likes of you instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:59 PM
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You just sound like a coward, if you wouldn't go and confront a threat to your family in your home then you're failing in the most base fundamental purpose of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:58 PM
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I'm married but it's pretty clear you don't understand how human sexuality works. It's not like a casual luxury that's nice to have, it's our most fundamental biological imperative. "Just do something else bro" is a masturbatory non solution. You finish off with "life is unfair, deal with it" so if guys collectively decide they've had enough of the dysfunctional bullshit and tell women it's time to go back to traditional gender roles, whether they want to or not, is it fair game to say the exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:42 PM
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Going to a fat leftuber dude for advice on masculinity is just... not a great idea. I don't think he's unintelligent, he's obviously educated and passionate about his niche of topics. But masculinity is way out of his element. Women know what they want based off of inherent biology, but they often struggle to actually describe what they want because it conflicts with their political ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:03 PM
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A fraction of women use dating apps. I'm not delusional at all, the world isn't fair and it doesn't give a single fuck about you or me. Tinder is 80% men and 20% women, if you sign up for those odds you're a fucking moron. Keep playing the game, keep losing. I refuse to victimize myself, society is fucked and it must be changed but in order for it to change men need to stop playing the system's game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:28 PM
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Yeah a lot of courts won't even enforce them but the point is, don't count on a piece of paper to protect your assets from your spouse. Count on your conduct and dignity as a man to preserve your marriage for the entire duration of your life. Also obviously marry the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:47 AM
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Yeah I just said that because it always offends a certain demographic of people and it's funny. It's definitely feminine, women have beautified themselves for thousands of years because that is generally their greatest inherent advantage- they are the pursued sex. So it makes sense to capitalize on this, although the further you go back the more this was the domain of mainly upper class and aristocratic women. I think it's hilarious how hard cosmetics are suddenly being pushed on men, it's also …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:13 AM
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There's a healthy middle ground here. When I see metrosexual dudes putting on makeup and using snapchat filters in a desperate attempt to get matches on their shitty apps I can't help but laugh. If you're serious about finding a woman the very first step should be to delete all of these stupid dating apps and never download them again, because from the get go you're competing for a small fraction of narcissistic women who use these apps- the vast majority of women don't use them. Yes be hygienic…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:18 AM
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Settle the fuck down man, you're 30 years old stop acting like you're 14. Nobody here can help you, the only man on the planet who can help you is yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:48 AM
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Lol good luck with that outlook dude. Church isn't useless, traditional religious institutions were what made sure guys like you didn't spend their entire lives single and alone. All of the fucked up things you see with gender relations, low birth rates, low marriage rates, and women not giving a single shit about settling down is because of modern secularism. It's incredibly ironic you would hate the church when it's modern secularism that's robbing you of your life right before your eyes. Big …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:18 AM
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Because a lot of them are socially awkward nerds who spend all of their free time doused in screens with their mechanical light up keyboards. These tech guys are way out of touch with their masculinity, their spirituality, and their ancestry. Money alone will never make a woman desire these weird adult man children who's whole identities can be described by their steam library.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:24 AM
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How the hell am I supposed to answer that for you? Only you know the answer to that. What are you looking for here man, a pity party? Stop chasing big money in a useless industry filled with idiots, never download a dating app again, return to the community you came from, maybe try going to a church. Or just throw in the towel and be forgotten, totally up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:16 AM
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At the end of the day you are the sole architect of your own fate, so if you keep telling yourself that's how it's going to end then yeah thats probably how it's going to end. Nobody cares about men at the end of the day, we off ourselves in droves and nobody gives a shit about it. Fuck the apps man, if you're willing to commit minecraft then you must also be willing to change how you live your life in order to save it? Tech is full of idiots man, groveling ant-like city people with the same bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:55 AM
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Money is stupid, it's a leverage tool to accumulate necessary resources and absolutely nothing more. The problem is we live in a society that worships money and plastic consumerism as deities. Who you are as a man, the values you embody and the actions you take in your daily life are what defines you. I'll be real with you here, modern society is fucked and the odds are stacked against you, as men we have all felt this dread at some point and we've all been there. You need a woman to steady your…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:39 AM
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Based. He's out there and you'll find him, there's a lot of useless noise on the internet when it comes to relationship dynamics but the most important thing is just to find a man who is honorable and willing to sacrifice himself for the benefit of others, those are the men that hold the fabric of our society together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:05 AM
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No prenup here and married for 7 years. I don't believe in divorce, as in I fundamentally reject the validity of the modern institution of divorce. I'm the only one who works, my wife stays home with our kids and I've generated 100% of our financial assets. I sleep soundly because I love my wife and more importantly I know she shares the same values as me. If you know your woman, if you really trust your woman deep in your heart, then a prenuptial agreement is a joke and a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:44 AM
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I'm not strawmanning shit buddy. Who is in charge of a child's diet? It's certainly not the child selecting, preparing, and cooking their own food. It's their fucking parents. If a child is fat, it's because their parents either didn't give enough of a shit about them, or their parents are really stupid. It's abuse through neglect. Sugary food tastes good to almost everyone, it's up to you as a grown individual to exercise restraint when indulging in shitty calorie dense foods with no nutritiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:45 AM
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Metabolic baselines obviously differ, different people can "get away" with different levels of caloric consumption and physical activity, I'm not contesting that. I'm saying the significance of these genetic factors isn't anywhere remotely close to 90% of the "why is our entire society so fucking fat" equation. No humans defy the laws of thermodynamics, if your caloric consumption exceeds your body's energy needs via metabolic rate plus physical activity, you will gain weight. Period. So if one …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:18 AM
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90% of weight is genetic LOL. That's why 2/3rd of the US is overweight today while almost none of it was 70 years ago right? People just magically developed these new fat genes over the last few decades. What a sad lie to tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:31 AM
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Barring some obscure legit medical issue, absolutely not. It's abuse through neglect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:29 AM
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I have kids and I've never understood this line of reasoning. Never in human history has it been safer to have a child than now. The entire history of our species is characterized by enduring hardship and suffering, literally two centuries ago the child mortality rate was 470 per 1000 births, despite the astronomical risk incurred humans were not put off by mating and starting families. The problem is we have a generation of cowards, I truly don't mean offense here OP but you sound like someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 07:21 AM
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We're averaging 3x per week, the sex is great and we have tons of fun. I'd be willing to wager I get laid more than the vast majority of single people lmao, even guys who go out and play the hookup game don't generally get laid with the consistency that I do. Marriage is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:53 AM
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No bro you don't get it I watched some manosphere youtube videos that told me early 20's college girls will be all over my dick as soon as I grow into a crusty old man. The reality is there's no way I could have ever landed a woman as beautiful as my wife except in the prime of my life, if I would've waited until I'm old I would've been fucked. Too many guys way overestimate their value in old age. Additionally, I love my wife, I love spending time with her and sharing life experiences with her.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:06 AM
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How is this encouragement? This is nightmare fuel dude. Are you going to be swiping on apps and trying to make moves on chicks in your 50's? This shit is a dead end. The issue here is there's no end point to the game plan, this guy is just stuck in the rat race with no light at the end of the tunnel. Build a life of your own, absolutely. Leave mom and dad's place, go to the gym, become a man who is accountable to himself. But don't move to NYC and play tinder simp moving through literally dozens…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:16 AM
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Yeah a lot of chicks would be thrown off by that body count, even liberal women. 50 is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:12 AM
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Fucked 50 women and you still haven't found one for the long haul? Honestly man this sounds like a nightmare. You shouldn't have to burn through an army of women to find one worth settling down and starting a family with. As a rural guy 5 years younger than you who's married with children I would advise guys against moving to the city and playing this stupid game. You're being played dude, you're 30 years old now so how much longer can you play this game? Are you gonna be swiping on apps a decad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:44 AM
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Oops I said a bad word so my comment got removed by the generous reddit censors. Either way man you're not going to find the fulfillment you need as a man by paying random street women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:28 AM
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Oh wow you have to pay money to get sex, so edgy. I'm the polar opposite of a feminist but this is cringe dude. Going to third world shitholes and paying women to fuck you doesn't strike me as something to brag about. Modern western society fucked you over and this is your cope for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 04:18 AM
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Yes it's definitely biological, most of our social systems are built around biologically influenced factors. In this case the male brain is wired differently from the female brain. Trans men don't suddenly become more systemizing when they take exogenous testosterone either, they still possess female brains. The way autism shows in men is another interesting thing to look at, it's essentially these systemizing traits all men possess taken to the uninhibited extreme, and generally at the expense …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:29 PM
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The male brain is much more systemizing than the female brain, independent of hormonal factors like serum testosterone and E2 levels. I think men generally possess a greater ability to use logical processes to build defined systems and hierarchies, and likewise women exhibit a greater capacity for empathy and compassion. Both things can be a blessing and a curse, both genders tend to compliment each other's weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:11 PM
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Control isn't always bad though, men are especially hierarchical and our brains do a lot of systemizing. You need a degree of authority and control in order to build organized societies in the first place. There is an evolutionary benefit to this behavior. Obviously there's such a thing as too much control and abuse of power but the male nature to systemize isn't your enemy. It built the most prosperous civilizations on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:46 AM
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I must have replied to the wrong post, sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:51 AM
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Did you edit your comment? Was there not a part about there being way too many people on the world anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:10 AM
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Absolutely nothing good about women comes from how much money they make. It's definitely not just about looks, you're right that things like personality and actual compatibility are critical for a lifelong partnership but money oriented women always give me the ick. Something about it just throws me way off, I would much rather pay for the bills and provide for my woman because I'm a man. LA is also a microcosm of sorts, it's like a little instagram irl dystopia so naturally a lot of men there w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:52 AM
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In the same way men have meaningful relationships with porn. It's a pacifier intended to keep men from torching the society that fucks them at every opportunity. Maybe it's enough to satisfy you but it's a cope. There is no replacement for a real biological intimacy with another human being. You are meant to have a woman and children if you're a halfway competent and honorable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:44 AM
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"There is no crisis" Just straight bullshit. We are set to be literally overflowing with old people, nearly all western countries are facing demographic collapse in a few decades. The population grows quickly because old people are living longer than ever before in human history, but if young people continue to cease having children our society as we know it today will cease to exist. Your choices, your career, your education, all of that superficial bullshit can disappear in the blink of an eye…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:37 AM
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70 years of communism and easy abortion access for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:05 PM
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Ironically both Ukraine and Russia are irrevocably fucked societies in terms of demographics, both are a dying people. The tragedy is just amplified by a brutal and unnecessary war. Sucks to see such beautiful and ancient European civilizations dying in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:22 AM
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The point is for the system to be inherently racist and sexist. We have fully shifted from equality being the goal to the gradual replacement and elimination of white people as a demographic. It's the same way with gender relations, it's not about being equal with men but ripping them down from their position in society and stripping boys of their masculine nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:09 AM
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It's exceedingly uncommon because it doesn't make sense from an evolutionary perspective, people who are into this are basically just an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:29 PM
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How does society function without these jobs being done? It doesn't. So you just say, fuck these men and they shouldn't be entitled to any kind of happiness? Good luck on sustaining that society of yours. The reason patriarchy has worked across virtually all human cultures for thousands of years is because it gives men a tangible stake in society, a reason to break their bodies for the sake of their people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:37 PM
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I sure hope so man. It seems so toxic to society for women to have this huge inflated sense of ego because they're overpaid to sit in their pajamas at home and go on zoom meetings while construction laborers, factory workers, truck drivers, steel fabricators, railway workers, etc are all regarded as undesirable lower class men even though they destroy their bodies to ensure the day to day continuity of our society. It's beyond fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:58 PM
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White working class, high earning but hardworking. Mostly trades guys. I do have one friend in tech who's a software engineer and he says he'd only date a woman who makes the same or more than him but we make fun of him because he's pretty beta and he'd honestly be lucky to land any woman at all. I think this current system is the most dysfunctional for working class men. Men occupy nearly all of the jobs that ensure the day to day continuity of our society while women occupy a lot of jobs in of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:50 PM
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Aren't you divorced? No offense but your cumulative life experience has ended in the biggest failure you can endure in the context of romantic relationships. Which leads me to believe you might not know much about what actually makes for a happy and fulfilled lifelong relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:37 PM
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We need a workable compromise from men and women or society will collapse, this shit isn't sustainable in the long term. A lot of women seem to think all of the mundane mechanisms that keep society running will just run indefinitely no matter how fucked things get. Men are the ones who break their bodies to build and protect society, your society as it exists today can only exist with cooperative men. Women occupy a lot of office chairs but the jobs that actually run society, your construction l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:31 PM
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Yes it makes perfect sense for women to seek out a partner they perceive as being able to provide for them, that's why our current social structure is so volatile and dysfunctional. If women are starting to out-earn men, and are already soaring past men in terms of academic achievement, then where does that leave the huge swathes of men left behind? Those are the guys who are going to bring the torch to this system. We need to find a workable compromise where most normal people, men and women bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:25 PM
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If we don't collectively start to work on this it's going to end with the destruction of our society. It's actually pretty alarming how few people realize the threat of having a huge underclass of lonely sexless men who have absolutely no value in the current societal structure. These men have absolutely nothing to lose, we know from historical precedent that having a huge population of angry and unsatisfied young men leads to your society being completely upended.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:14 PM
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Careerist oriented women make for terrible mothers though and they have some of the lowest birthrates. A child is an enormous responsibility, a lot of women like to lament how impossible it is to juggle a high level career and simultaneously raise children, it's literally impossible unless you're cool with shipping your kids off to institutionalized child warehousing for 40+ hours per week. But that's just an abdication of your responsibility to be a good mother and a presence for your own child…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:11 PM
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I make better money than probably 90% of people, maybe self absorbed shitty big city men are like that but a lot of men from my region are more traditionally oriented. I'm not giving up any quality of life by paying my woman's bills, quite the opposite, it actually gives me an enhanced quality of life because I'm providing something valuable to somebody I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:05 PM
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The problem is the gender gap in post secondary graduation is worse today than it was in 1970, except the genders have flipped. The bottom line is the men that many of these high earning women want don't exist, this whole phenomenon is incredibly destabilizing to society because nobody ends up happy. Women don't want to date down and men don't want to be emasculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:00 PM
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It's not about that one individual man, it's about men as a whole not giving a shit about a woman's career because it doesn't make any sense from an evolutionary perspective. I get that it's frustrating but modern society is structured in a totally fucked up and illogical way. Why would heterosexual men be attracted to masculine provider traits? Nothing good about women comes from how much money she makes or what office chair she sits in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:45 PM
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I don't think about alimony because I don't believe in divorce. I think it's mostly just low value men whining about that stuff, my wife stays home and I pay for everything but she enhances my life in every way possible. I've spent my entire adult life paying for and providing for a woman and it's been great.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:40 PM
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I'm just one guy but my wife stays home and I have a mortgage. You can't do it in HCOL big cities but in a lot of smaller more rural places it's totally doable. IMO when I think about what I like in women, nothing good about them comes from how much money they have. Their ability to accumulate resources just isn't a an evolutionary priority for men. Their looks, femininity, and emotional compatibility are so much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:28 PM
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It seems like a lot of modern women project their standards and preferences onto men. I've talked with a lot of guys about this and almost nobody cares how much money a woman makes or even her education level when selecting for a partner. High level careerist women who "can't find any good men" don't realize that the vast majority of men don't care about a woman's career or income potential. Why would heterosexual men be attracted to masculine provider traits? It just makes no sense from an evol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:08 PM
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Because we're a rapidly decaying society headed for a massive demographic crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:43 PM
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I wish I had an easy solution for you, unfortunately there is very rarely easy solutions to complex multi-faceted societal problems. Obviously women shouldn't be slaves to men, but the current system very clearly isn't working either. What we ultimately need is some sort of compromise where most normal people, men and women both, can feel fulfilled and satisfied. Also electricity is a technological invention, I'm talking about instinctual human behavior. We upgraded from spears to laser guided b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:18 AM
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Absolutely not. I'm married, I've got kids, I've got a mortgage, I have zero interest in seeing society go tits up. But seriously, looking around at young men as a whole has me feeling like we're in a really bad spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:02 AM
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The problem is the society you've always known and exist in cannot exist without cooperative men. Most of human history has been characterized by dudes of one tribe going to the neighboring tribe's village, butchering their men, and taking all of their women. Like literally almost the entire lineage of our species is this story repeated over and over again millions of times across every culture and land. The society you exist in now that provides you with a baseline of safety and stability so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:00 AM
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Are you going to address the rest of my comment? And either way, if 30% of your society's young men are totally sexless, your society is going end up getting burned to the ground. This demographic of men is extremely dangerous as they have literally nothing to lose, they are at the very bottom rung in the ladder of society, nobody gives a shit about them or how they are doing. I feel like we as a society are choosing to just ignore this until it blows up in our faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:34 PM
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This is so silly. The phenomenon you're seeing is because women are earning income at a higher level than ever before in history, it doesn't mean hypergamy doesn't exist. The gender gap in post secondary graduation is worse today than it was in 1970, except the genders have flipped. The education system and the economy itself structurally disadvantages boys and men. Neither the majority of men nor the majority of women are satisfied with being in a relationship where the woman is the breadwinner…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:24 PM
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Women choosing to be single is a unique phenomenon in history and a luxury. They often forget they exist in a society built by men, protected by men, and upheld by men. A lot of women just sort of assume things will keep working indefinitely no matter how much we shit on and rip up the social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:39 AM
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Khrushchev was alright but Gorbachev was awful, he happily kicked off Russia's inevitable doom spiral. Stalin was alright in some respects but with the pretty big asterisk of being a paranoid genocidal maniac. Putin doesn't actually want to genocide the Ukrainian people at all, he wants to integrate east slavic people to stave off the death of their empire.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:22 AM
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I think he's the best leader Russia has had in the last 100 years. But to be clear the bar for "good" Russian leader is really, really low. I think Russia has had a lot of terrible leaders and it's the strength of the Russian people which propels them to greatness in spite of their leaders, not because of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:58 AM
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Putin uses propaganda on his people absolutely, but really every single western government does this to their own people as well. Broadcasters in the west regurgitate word for word the ideological mantra of academia without nuance or question. Even Reddit operates in this manner, if you're not religiously aligned with causes like intersectionality, feminism, LGBT pride, varied gender identities, the overall emasculation of men in society, etc then you're quickly branded as a pariah. There is abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:52 AM
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Yet impoverished rural ethnic Russians with no indoor plumbing still adore Putin, in fact he enjoys far more support in those rural regions than in major urban centers like Moscow and Saint Petersburg. I don't think the cultural factor here can be understated, they aren't supporting Putin for fiscal reasons but cultural ones. He presents himself as a politician willing to do anything to secure the prosperity of the Russian people. Russia doesn't really run on roads either, you have to understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:32 AM
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A sad fate for an otherwise pretty remarkable race of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:16 AM
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They have a few million left, so yes it makes sense to use them as a desperate last ditch attempt to restore their empire's virility. The Kremlin knows the clock is ticking, if they don't do it now then they likely would never be able to do it. Russia overmatches Ukraine pretty significantly in terms of manpower strength, artillery capacity, and military-industrial complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:16 AM
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Tsarist Russia is better than the Soviet Union in some respects but not others, the modern Russian Federation framework under Putin is better than both, as really it's a socioeconomic hybrid of both those other models.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:12 AM
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Russian culture does for sure, but the Soviet Union was pretty different from traditional Russian culture. Women were socially liberated, encouraged to go to work, and even a lot of sectors in society were mandated to have female participation. Their breakneck pace industrializing combined with state sponsored atheism are big contributors to the changing status of women in the USSR, also abortion became rampant. Russia as it is today embodies many of the values of traditional Russian culture but…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:02 AM
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It's pretty interesting looking at the demographics of Russia as it's a bit of a global outlier, it is functionally the last remaining legacy "white empire" and ironically there's a huge range of ethnic minority groups spanning Russia's territory. Despite this, Russian culture is totally dominant and central to the nation. As a country of nearly 145 million people, there are only 6-7 million ethnic Russian men between the ages of 18-30 right now. This is what really spells out their inevitable d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:53 AM
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Yes of course because it feels amazing, sometimes you have to just let your inner monkey instincts take the driver's seat. If God wants me to have more children then that's what's going to happen, who am I to get in the way of nature's most fundamental processes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:29 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:30 AM
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Why? I'm dissatisfied with the state of modern western society but that makes me want to build a better society, not discard it wholesale. The biological purpose of men is to protect and build our societies/tribes/groups, it's irrational to deviate from that just because you're unhappy with how shitty society is right now. Find a woman, have children, surround yourself with a community of likeminded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:15 AM
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Things are bad for men but rampant individualism and discarding society isn't the answer. The truth is organized societies are immensely beneficial to human stability and capability. If you go fuck off and create your little individualist utopia by yourself then one day the neighboring tribe with 200 fighting age guys can roll up on you and crush your shit. By supporting women and children you're creating the building blocks for a stable society, when those young boys grow up into fighting age m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 06:07 AM
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That shit is gross man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:46 AM
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The real problem is there are way too many old people in western societies so pretty well anywhere you go is going to be super saturated with old people. We're just beginning to see the consequences of a massive looming demographic crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:43 AM
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Lol this is so off the mark. Just take a quick look at homicide and assault rates broken down between the genders and you'll see an extreme difference. Men and women are very different and it's society's great lie telling everyone we're the same that's causing so much strife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:35 AM
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I'm pretty sure her husband was in on it to an extent, she seems a little crazy and hard to tame but some dudes are into that. It's definitely getting outsized attention for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:33 AM
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I would rather get hurt a thousand times than see my wife get hurt once. It's not even a choice but an instinctual orientation. Seeing women suffer strikes almost any man as profoundly wrong, this is not just a social matter but a biological one. Our job is to protect our family, community, and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:28 AM
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Institutionalized pedestalization is a good thing though. In a patriarchal society you want women to feel safe and treated with dignity. The whole precipice of the argument favoring male leadership in society is that we're best positioned to sacrifice ourselves for the benefit of women and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:24 AM
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You missed the end of my comment, a man who can't get any women at all is generally inferior in nature. But in this case the gap between 0 and 1 is much bigger than the gap between 1 and 10. So take the same example you gave, same productive successful man but with a wife and children, and yes absolutely that man carries more status and value to society than the broke dead end guy who's banging random drunk chicks at the club every weekend. It's a monumental difference actually, the married man …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:25 AM
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Welcome to sexual dimorphism, women and men aren't the same. Believing we're the same is just a byproduct of contemporary society drilling this lie into our heads since childhood. You're not fully correct though, as a man your value isn't determined by how many vaginas you fuck, that's college freshman fuckboy logic. Your value as a man is dictated by what you can give back to society. Women do get to choose men because they assume a tremendous risk from an evolutionary perspective, a woman can …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 09:17 AM
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Men aren't evil at all, any more so than women or humanity in general. Do you attribute the aggression and violence of tundra wolves to them being evil? Grizzly bears? Mountain lions? Aggression and violence serve an evolutionary purpose, the reason you live in a society where you can speak your mind freely is because hundreds of thousands of men were willing to die for it. I'm not talking about dicks and pussies, I'm talking about men being stripped of their roles and purpose in society. What i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:06 PM
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Men have an inherently violent nature for sure, it's impossible for women to be in charge of society without the explicit consent of men because women on their own have no way to forcibly assert or project power. History is a repeat cycle of millions upon millions of men killing each other and dying in warfare. This is why the current trajectory is so unsettling, you can't just make men obsolete in modern society. You end up converting the traditional protectors of society into the ruthless cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:03 AM
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The role of men is to lead by example, I see so many fatass middle age men shaped like apples who whine about their wives like they're the highway patrol while ogling at other women on TV and in public. Who would want to fuck someone like that? The most important thing to know about being a man is that it's an inherently precarious position, you have to constantly prove what you are day after day, month after month, and year after year. It's hard won and easily lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:31 AM
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Left wing white women tend to absolutely hate white men so that might be a good in for you. But white women in general trend pretty strongly towards preferring white men as partners, the same trends are observed across all racial groups. East asian men probably have it the hardest because a lot of them seem comparatively more effeminate than the men of other races.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:16 AM
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Well you can't be bitter and miserable about it, overwhelmingly people across races prefer to date within their own cultural and ethnic groups. This is natural. A grounded sense of religion is an important building block of identity and culture. I think you should stop selling your own people short and look for a good woman, unless your desire is to be lonely and miserable for the duration of your existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:02 AM
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Way too many men let themselves go after getting married. I think this is the real root of the issue, what a lot of men don't realize is you don't just get to rest on your laurels for the rest of your existence after you've taken the hill. What needs to be realized is after you take the hill you need to spend every fucking day holding that hill for the rest of your life. You need to make a conscious, continuous, and decisive effort to build prosperity for your family and to win your woman's hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:53 AM
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Why not just go after women in your own culture and ethnic group instead of pursuing women from other groups? I've never understood this, personally I've never felt any desire to date, fuck, or reproduce outside of my own people. There are plenty of 5'1 Latina chicks out there OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:20 AM
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I'd take the second woman but I like living on the edge. High risk high reward, if she has good core values and maturity then she's definitely a winner. I think men care about appearance a lot, we have visual brains. In fact all people care about physical appearance because it's the most base driver of physical attraction, it's the very first thing you notice about a prospective partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:57 AM
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Is it though? Do you really think that's the case in Hungary? Poland? Russia? How about Turkey or Qatar? Most of the world is much more socially conservative than the United States. You're conflating fiscal and economic policy with sociocultural norms. Many countries are more collectivist and communal than the US is while also being more socially conservative at the same time. There are good arguments to be made for aspects of socialism and economic nationalization, namely that the nation should…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:23 AM
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Left wing women are probably the single most insufferable demographic, I would really just avoid interacting with this demographic at all in any context as they're mostly a lost cause. Apolitical women are the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:25 AM
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I don't think most young men watch shitty 90's sitcoms but more importantly, what about the middle ground between kissless virgin and fucking Jennifer Aniston? This is emblematic of our problem today, young men don't give a shit about landing a Jennifer Aniston, they just want to land a half decent woman who isn't insane. I'm a married guy in my 20's and most of my male friends are still single. Successful, educated guys, some of them even own their own homes. Women today have completely lost th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 07:58 AM
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This is definitely true but I'd argue collective organized societies in general are a very risky proposition. You need a high degree of cohesion and social trust in order to organize groups and formulate national identity. The point being that despite the inherent risk involved, collective organized societies have been immensely beneficial to human prosperity. Likewise mating dynamics that accurately reflect the different roles of men and women are hugely beneficial to society. We need to reprod…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 07:40 AM
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If it's not a familiar or adjacent culture to your own it's probably going to be pretty difficult to build a social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:55 PM
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As a very traditionally minded man it's much better to marry and procreate from within your own culture and people. Mail order Filipino wives are basically a funny boomer trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:21 AM
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Letting women enter the workforce was a really huge mistake. Women may be graduating university at higher rates than men and entering meaningless corporate careers but they're not having children and they're not actually contributing to the future of society. Look around yourself and see how ultra polarized and atomized modern society is, there is absolutely no common cause for us to strive towards as men and women, it's all about "fuck you I got mine I'm a boss bitch" It's incredibly poisonous …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:39 PM
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Most men don't share their real feelings with you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:31 PM
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"Normalizing" is such a meaningless term, the reason men are women don't gravitate towards each other as platonic friends is because it doesn't make any sense, we generally have very divergent interests and goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:31 PM
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This is actually a great point. I played a shitload of steam and xbox when I was a teenager, like probably 15+ hours per week minimum. Games in a very restricted and limited capacity like once in awhile are fine but the problem is when you let a useless distraction like gaming get in the way of you being a capable man. So many guys in my age group haven't changed even a little bit since we were teenagers. As men we're letting gaming feed our sense of reward and accomplishment when that need is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:13 AM
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This is somewhat correct but I'd argue masculine men increasingly care more about the state of society when they feel it's having a direct impact on their families and their ability to pursue those goals. When young masculine men finally do mobilize society tends to get upended.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:13 AM
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The bar is so low in part because women fought so hard to destroy the existing social contract and the assigned roles of men in collective societies. When you remove their stake entirely what reason do many of these men have to try? There is none, this is why breaking the social contract is such a pervasive threat to the continued functioning of our civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 03:47 AM
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I'm pretty redpilled and my wife is the same age as me. I differ from a lot of redpill guys though because I think it's better to just marry young and in the prime of your life. I think there's a predatory dynamic to much older men persuing very young women, those guys basically missed out on what being a young man is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:09 PM
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It's because the hyper polarization and atomization of western societies is accelerating. We have no collective sense of identity or purpose, no binding social contract exists anymore. I don't believe societies can remain viable in this state over the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 09:46 PM
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I'm married and I've never experienced this, I think men need to be really cautious about what kind of woman they decide to marry. In the context of marriage sexual and emotional intimacy is a necessity not an option and both parties should understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:08 AM
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The collapse of social cohesion in western society is accelerating at a very fast pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:43 AM
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Not really, I would say middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:06 PM
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Men need to up their game. I would never expect a woman's money just because she lives with me. Her money is hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:02 PM
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Feminist leftist chicks like it too they just don't like to admit it because it conflicts with their ideological leanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:54 PM
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Yes, why would I want to make money off of someone I love and want to spend time with? The companionship is the reward, people way overestimate the true value of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:39 PM
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Equality doesn't have to be such a rigid and static thing though, it's a romantic partnership not a business transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:37 PM
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Sure it goes both ways, but you still shouldn't charge a woman rent. Even if she's a modernist working woman you should still signal your ability and desire to provide for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:30 PM
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Sorry I only have rubles
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:27 PM
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It's not freeloading though you get companionship which IMO is one of the biggest rewards in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:26 PM
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Letting her live rent free makes sense though, she's your partner not a tenant. She's there so you can be close and spend more time together, it's not a business transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:24 PM
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Men should let their woman partner live rent free at their place even if she works, it's the right thing to do and it establishes to the woman that you're in a position to provide for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:20 PM
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Video games aren't important at all man, you gotta wake up. I gamed a lot when I was a teenager too, then I grew up. When you look at your woman do you think you'd rather be playing video games than build a real partnership with her? Why get married in the first place? I just don't understand, how can this be a legacy that a real person wants to leave behind. I sincerely hope you're able to identify your priorities in life.
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/23 08:05 AM
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This is normal for men and from an evolutionary perspective it's even a good thing because it forces us onto an axis of either perpetual self improvement or certain destruction. Men are defined by our actions alone, so it is what you do in life that determines your worth to others and society. The braver you are the greater of a man you will ultimately become.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:39 AM
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There's definitely some truth to this. I started dating my wife at 18 and I've never understood this obsession old guys have with much younger women. If you're successful in dating then no matter what the woman you're with is going to grow old, so why fixate so much on age? Youth is beautiful no doubt, but to fixate on it to such an extent where you have these middle age losers chasing barely legal teenagers is ridiculous. My wife is the same age as me, every guy I've ever known in my personal c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:35 AM
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There's no convincing anyone, obviously that isn't working. Instead we'll just witness the gradual collapse of our social order and probably a lot of needless war and destruction. All I'm saying is it's entirely preventable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:28 AM
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The only solution is for young people to start having more children, the alternative is possibly the destruction of our species. As societies become older and increasingly desperate they will turn to things like war in a last ditch attempt to retain social cohesion. Russia is doing this right now and it looks like China will be heading down a similar route.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:39 AM
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The physical number of people isn't the issue, it's the proportion of really old ass people who need surgeries and pensions and nursing homes vs the proportion of working age people who actually contribute to GDP. We're headed for a demographic crisis because not enough people are having children, there is an increasingly disproportionate amount of old people who drain huge amounts of resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:08 AM
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There's no excuse for being so ignorant on how demographics work when Google is so easy to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:15 PM
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It doesn't actually matter what this hypothetical individual woman wants. Do you understand what happens if collective societies cease functioning? We go back to what we had before the Neolithic era, that is, small marauding bands of men fiercely competeting for resources, they would take whatever they want with violence, whoever is strongest is right. It is absolutely not in women's interests to contribute to the end of the social contract and collective societal cohesion, in a world where viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:32 PM
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And that sentiment is exactly what will destroy collective societies in their current modern iterations. How can a collective society even exist if all of its inhabitants are fixated on an immediate and unending flow of self gratification in their own personal lives? People who are childfree absolutely do owe something to society, all people living in society owe society otherwise collective organized society will cease being a viable endeavor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:17 PM
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Yes and we're headed for the largest demographic crisis in human history because young people aren't having children. This will cause a chain of events including massive wars and social discord as nations begin to recognize they're dying. Russia is a great example of this, it's a 1,000 year old civilization that's on death's door, their people don't reproduce near sustainment levels and they've been spiraling demographically since the 1980's. Russian leadership knows this so they've started thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:21 AM
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It's good that they're not a contraceptive induced via hormonal modulation but I still think contraceptives themselves are a poison pill for long term human prosperity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:05 AM
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It's just porn culture. These guys watch so much of it and it turns their brains to mush, caring about shit like this has gotta be the dumbest thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:03 AM
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Actually wouldn't there be a huge motivation in finding love because it all comes to an inevitable end at some point? Like, you're going to die. Full stop, zero chance you're making it out of this world alive, so the story of mankind is that our fire burns short but bright. Use the time you do have to find the love and fulfillment you desire. It's never a lost cause man, we live in a dark world but that just means it's even more important to seek out the light. Regulate and process your emotions…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:51 AM
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Tate is a tryhard wannabe but the reason he's so popular is because he gives a voice to the millions of men left behind by contemporary society. Tate is a symptom of the bigger issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:45 AM
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If this was really the solution you think it is then VR porn already solved all of our sex and intimacy problems. Except it didn't. Men don't just need sex, men need a household, a family, and a real tangible stake in collective society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:37 AM
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This is bad, birth control is essentially a poison pill to long term human prosperity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:35 AM
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Nobody is technically entitled to anything, not even clean drinking water or physical safety. Nonetheless sex is a really critical part of human social behaviors and obviously reproduction. If the mating dynamics in place don't work for a solid majority of men then those dynamics just aren't sustainable for humanity in the long term. The previous 10,000 years before the last 50 was the sociocultural norm across virtually all organized societies, the era we live in now is a total anomaly. The mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:48 AM
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I disagree if it's the children of society who ultimately pay the price for parents divorcing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:46 AM
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It's destabilizing to society because of the seriously negative effects it has on children. The children of divorced households have worse outcomes in life than the children of married parents by every quantifiable metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:27 AM
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Tbh I'm a giver so I'm entirely focused on my woman and getting her off, there's nothing that could really be improved in my experience. Women do all the hard work by making themselves look hot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 07:13 AM
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But the need for physical attraction is also pretty fundamental, it is literally the first thing you notice about a prospective partner. You gotta be into them, so I get this. I love my wife on a deep emotional level but my very first interactions with her were because I thought she was hot as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 07:09 AM
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There is a hard coded transactional aspect to man-woman partnerships, men are supposed to accumulate resources to give to their woman and children, but that doesn't mean that personal level love isn't legit. It all intertwines, love and romance are very legit and they're a core part of having a healthy relationship. You've gotta look at the whole package to get a healthy perspective on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:35 AM
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No fault divorce should be illegal IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:33 AM
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Boys cannot be turned into men by women, they can only be raised into men by other men. Incels are a product of society vehemently discouraging masculinity among young boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:08 AM
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I'm married, just break right and leave the left because if you're a young man the left is offering you absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:07 AM
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Because women pushed for the creation of a sociological system that is directly at odds with our inherent biology. Hating women isn't right or desirable but the hardcore fracturing and polarization of society is a result of our existing social systems being incompatible with huge swathes of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:04 AM
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This is incorrect because men providing for and protecting their woman predates capitalism as an economic system by thousands of years. Love and values certainly matter, and there are hordes of consumer driven zombies who think money is the sole factor that matters, perhaps those are the ones most influenced by modern capitalism. But the idea of a man being physically strong and acquiring enough resources to provide for a woman is not something based in capitalism, but rather our inherent nature…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:14 PM
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Both. I have a pretty wide circle of irl male peers and none of them are married, most are single, only one other guy has kids. They all hate modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:40 AM
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I honestly don't mean any offense by this but you sound really young and immature, almost none of that is how the world works. I specifically said we could move away from a growth model to population stabilization but a total demographic collapse would be a nightmare for society, I don't think you understand but societies can't actually function if you have 3x as many old people drawing on the system as you have young people working and contributing in it. So unless your plan is to calmly throw …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:17 AM
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Fair play, you are the sole architect of your own fate. But if a majority of women followed your path it would spell the end of humanity. It's one thing for birth rates to stabilize instead of grow but what we're seeing is a total demographic collapse, young women are just forgoing having children entirely. The current cultural trend isn't sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:01 AM
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Men and women should be dependent on each other because it's the only way to ensure our continued prosperity and existence as a species. Men and women are designed to excel at different roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:44 AM
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In an ideal world, women shouldn't have to pay bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:35 AM
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You're a real pleasure to talk to, I appreciate hearing your perspective. The unfortunate thing about a fractured society is nobody actually wants to be divided and pitted against each other, but it becomes unavoidable when differences are so stark and deep that the current situation becomes untenable. Nothing binds western society today. Not religion, not culture, not ethnicity, not ideological nor philophiscal consensus. Collective societies need a binding sense of national unity to be remotel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:33 AM
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I come from a rural small town which is probably why my wife is super hot and way out of my league but I've wanted a woman and children ever since I was like 14 or 15? I've always understood having a family to be a fundamental aspect of the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:18 AM
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So we obviously come from starkly different backgrounds, my family is anglo saxon and has inhabited the same lands for centuries, cultivating and building the civilization which now exists today. I understand where you're coming from but for me and I think a lot of young men in my culture it's not just about material wealth, in fact the western obsession with rampant materialism seems more like a curse than a blessing, it's essentially the worship of accumulating useless material shit. I feel si…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:06 AM
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Good question, for me personally I'm a young man married with children so I already have an established life where I'm at. I also place a lot of value in being integrated into a community comprised of my own people and culture. I'm neither Turkish nor Muslim so Turkey would not be a good cultural fit for me unless I was going over as a volunteer with the Greek army to retake rightfully hellenic lands LOL. I don't think the right solution for western men is to run, I get what you're saying on an …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:42 AM
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Thanks man, killing social media is a good first step for sure. You really have to reject society as it exists now completely and utterly, while still navigating life within it. It's a difficult balance to strike. Don't participate in dating apps at all because they're a sham. It may sound cliche but really focus on becoming the strongest possible man you can be. Mentally and physically prepare yourself like you're about to enter the fight of your life, live life like that every single day with …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:27 AM
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I'm not trying to antagonize you or say your life is without challenge. I'm merely defining broader cultural trends like woman body positivity and the forceful momentum behind it. I'm married to a woman so while I can never truly understand what it feels like to be a woman, I can at least get a glimpse of it and understand the fundamental basis for why women and men need each other to ensure the success of humanity. I don't think being a woman is easy per se, I just think being a good man has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:12 AM
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A conglomerate of disconnected rich old fucks who are happy to watch society burn so long as they get to keep their yachts and gated communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:06 AM
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Yeah I mean for sure, they are. I don't have Instagram but I'm aware of the phenomenon. We're all effected by how our pop culture portrays women and men, but my point was that the actual money and powerful institutions of society are behind woman empowerment and woman body positivity exclusively, this is the source of the disconnect and the major resentment we see among young men today. Women are constantly told they're beautiful no matter what, they're constantly affirmed and supported by the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:04 AM
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Men in general are orders of magnitude more dangerous than women, that's a big part of why men controlled and led virtually all societies across all cultures all throughout history up until a few decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:42 AM
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It's the double standard that's causing this immense fracture between men and women, and really society at large. Like I said there is this massive body positivity movement with media, star power, and billions of dollar behind it. But it almost exclusively focuses on the body acceptance of women alone. They put a 500 lb morbidly obese lady on the cover of vogue and everyone has to pretend this is beautiful but when it comes to men the expectations for our physical looks remains totally unchanged…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:40 AM
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I agree with a lot of what the RP says with a few big exceptions. I don't think you should emotionally abuse women to pursue them, I don't think you should participate in gamifying dating or dehumanizing women at all. Unfortunately that side of the red pill is a losing proposition and I'm totally against it. But what the red pill gets right is that there are hard coded biological differences between men and women, the things we desire and need, etc. Modern society likes to pretend that sexual di…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:37 AM
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Yes this is because we live in a gynocentric culture that prizes immediate self gratification for the sake of self gratification above all else. Single women are empowered, strong, and independent. Single men are creepy, without status, and largely losers. This is the cultural dynamic that we as a society have allowed to be created.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:33 AM
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Because modern women's standards are implanted from social media and pop culture, they're not naturally occurring. That's why those standards are always so insane and unrealistic. Like the "don't even talk to me if you're not 6'2" chicks. Meanwhile we simultaneously have this massive cultural push for body positivity and acceptance almost exclusively for women. So there's a cultural expectation that we gotta sit here and pretend a morbidly obese woman is in any way "beautiful" while women are sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:28 AM
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We're just kind of in this weird limbo where it's partly an oooga booga caveman winner take all with dating and partly an artificial ultra liberated female empowerment culture. The combination of both is extremely unhealthy and honestly destabilizing to society, I don't think it'll be sustainable in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:18 AM
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Banging 80 girls in a year isn't healthy dude, that's pretty fucked up. Sounds like you're just trying to cope and compensate. I'm really skeptical that you're banging 10 chicks a month but either way that's fucking gross man. You're very confident you could get into a relationship any time but I'm not so sure, having a successful long term relationship requires you to actually behave like a man and to possess the traits that ensure you can be a good partner over the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:12 AM
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You've boned over 200 women and you still couldn't lock a single one of them down? That sounds horrible man. One good woman for life beats 200 nameless meat market fucks any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:57 AM
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I'm in the oldest cohort of gen z men at 25 and I'm married with kids, but nearly all of my peers are single and childless. I think things are getting really, really fucking bad for gen z men. Like something out of a dystopian fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:50 AM
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Patriarchy doesn't call for men to sit back and be worshipped as deities, patriarchy calls for men to lead from the front and to sacrifice their lives for the benefit of women, children, and society at large. There is a key misunderstanding that patriarchy is about unfairly bestowing power to men when really it's about demanding that men protect, lead, build, serve, and die for the benefit of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:06 AM
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Women are much less depraved than men on average, but that's because sexual dimorphism exists between both genders, we are not the same and we are not built to fulfill the same roles. While testosterone can increase aggression and give you the hornies frequently men need lots of it in our bodies so we can effectively fight to protect our family/tribe. Men should go out of their way to treat women well because women fundamentally rely on men for protection, even in the today times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:49 AM
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The biggest kicker here is women in non-patriarchal societies stop having children. Many societies are headed for a demographic crisis of such a magnitude that it could threaten our species because of this phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:40 AM
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My wife stays home with our kids, not all women are the way you describe. I didn't opt out because I refused to condemn myself to an existence of being a lonely miserable sob. I believe men need purpose, a wife and children provide the most fundamental sense of purpose there is. Any alternative to a wife and children is condemning yourself to a lower level of existence as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:34 AM
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Porn will never fill the void no matter how spooky dystopian and futuristic it gets. Of course men desire sex but it's only part of the picture. Nothing artificial can ever replace the human attributes of a woman partner. Porn as it exists today is already immersive, easily accessible, easily concealable, and virtually unlimited in content. I think the result for a lot of men who consume lots of porn with little/no real human touch is that they want to end their own lives. A future with the kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:23 AM
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None of that changes that modern oriented women are not going to be attractive prospective partners to the majority of men. There's a biological disconnect occurring here, modern women have largely reinvented society over the course of a few decades to something which has absolutely no basis in our natural tendencies. I'm not talking about 50's sitcoms I'm talking about 200,000 years of established social systems, namely patriarchy itself. The same way the vast majority of women don't find submi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:30 PM
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I get what you mean that a certain wisdom comes with age knowing that the grass is rarely greener on the other side, but fostering passion in your marriage is so important. A lot of people don't realize marriage requires a concerted effort to bond and build intimacy with your spouse over the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:05 AM
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The strong independent woman types don't really grasp that it takes both genders to ensure the success and survival of humanity, in fact many of these feminist types will enthusiastically argue for the eradication of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:54 AM
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I think testosterone is a hell of a drug but really unfiltered internet access is the biggest drug. Men are more depraved in societal circumstances that actively encourage depravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:52 AM
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This is stupid man. I gave my wife roses and brought her to the nicest restaurant in town on our first date, I paid for everything it costed a fortune and I was making minimum wage. You don't have to fly people to Italy but if you want to take a woman out on a date then treat her like an actual woman and make her feel special. I feel like the path you're on will just be endlessly cycling through women without finding a woman worth being with for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:27 AM
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I'm married and mid 20's, been with my wife for over 7 years now. Being a younger guy though I see how absolutely fucked the dating market has been for my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:20 AM
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Because sometimes the most critical moments of your life, like choosing to raise a family, require decisive decision making. You can't be half in and half out, thinking about your exit plan is setting yourself up for failure from the beginning. I have no exit, no backup plan, I'm all in on my wife, I've staked everything I've got into my marriage and I couldn't be happier about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:17 AM
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People should never use science in their arguments, I think raw emotional arguing and namecalling is the best way to find consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:51 AM
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I've been friends with my wife since we were like 12, I had a big crush on her in high school and finally when I was 18 I asked her out on valentine's day, 7 years later we're married with kids. Hang in there man, maybe try to make a connection with that friend if you feel like there could be something there. Don't give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:49 AM
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Yeah I mean home owners leveraged to the tits are just funny, I think a lot of people are definitely going to lose their shirts in the upcoming economic turmoil. I have young children so my home value could be $0 and I wouldn't sleep any worse, all I care about is having a house and land to raise my family on. Realistically though idk about your area but rents have gone fucking insane in my region. My mortgage is $700/month and market rent on a 2 bedroom apartment is close to $2000/month, it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:42 AM
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I think you need to make a credible argument for why the human race should be exterminated. Our most primordial impulse is survival and propagating the continuation of our species, everyone I've ever loved is a human including my family, wife, and children. I find people who seriously argue humanity should end tend to be very nihilistic, you think humanity should die but only after you're done a long life of wasting and consuming useless shit then leaving nothing behind for the next generation r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:36 AM
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I can't live in a stupid figure on a screen. This past year has been really hard on markets, most of the guys I know are down 10-15%+ across their portfolios, I know a couple crypto guys who have lost a shitload, meanwhile I'm sitting here chilling in my house making the same mortgage payment and nothing has changed except my house is worth 40% more than it was two years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:29 AM
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Just think about what it does to their teeth man, yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:24 AM
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Yes, the sun will die in about 10 billion years, or twice as long as the earth has existed as a planet. Earth will become inhospitable to humans long before that for different reasons but it's totally irrelevant, you're talking about massive astronomical timescales whereas I'm talking about the possible end of humanity in decades or maybe a century. The trajectory we're on now is not sustainable, women can't just stop having children en masse without serious demographic consequences for our spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:15 AM
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Millions of men cannot withstand the pressure of being a good leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:21 AM
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Yeah fair enough, but most women don't even know what their fertility is like so if they wait until they're middle aged to find out a lot of times it's way too late. I just can't imagine waiting that long, my kids will be in their 20's by the time I'm mid 40's. My oldest will be 20 when I'm 41.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:02 AM
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1% to 2% is a 100% increase, in clinical terms complications are much more frequently occurring in women trying to conceive at 40+ because women literally aren't designed to have babies when they're so fucking old, it's just made up modern shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:53 AM
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Yeah I don't understand the fence sitting either. I knew for sure I wanted kids when I was like 15. I think it's just mass consumerism clogging up people's brains, the vast majority of humans naturally desire children as it's our most base biological imperative past like eating, shitting, and sleeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:50 AM
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A 40 year old has a 5% chance of conception per cycle with a 40% chance of miscarriage. Human women aren't supposed to have kids in their 40's, you're supposed to be raising children in the prime of your life, not have teenagers when you're about to become a senior citizen. That's just modern bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:48 AM
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Yeah I'm down with this for sure. I told my wife I'm totally against abortion full stop on the first date, also that men should always pay for dates, women shouldn't work, etc. I managed to charm her but there's lots of women I've said those things to and recieved very angry reactions lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:44 AM
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Sounds like a long form way of saying you're against the continued existence of the human race. Which I should say is a lame and utterly selfish perspective. The "egalitarian" system we exist in today is a total fluke, it exists only because our civilization has not yet been militarily conquered by a stronger one. Nobody's freedom is set in stone, it is won and held only with iron, it's a smart idea to never forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:41 AM
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Strength is the currency of men, being pretty has no utility for guys unless you're a viral tiktok soyboy playing in the rat race.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:37 AM
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Probably impossible because men and women are complimentary opposites, my wife's personality really isn't anything like mine but we love each other and those differences allow us to each contribute our strengths to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:35 AM
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If you don't know by your late 30's it's probably too late tbf lol, I had my first at 21. You shouldn't be waiting until you're middle aged to have children, it should be in the prime of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:33 AM
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If the fear of failure makes you hesitate and freeze in the biggest decisions of your life then unfortunately you'll become a self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:30 AM
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That's extremely uncommon, pregnancy risk rises quite a bit after 35 and skyrockets after 40. Human women aren't really supposed to be having children at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:29 AM
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Tbh I don't really share much or any emotional vulnerability with my wife, nor do I want to. Of course she's there to support me if I need it but I prefer being there to support her emotional vulnerability because that's what men are supposed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:25 AM
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Marriage is an amazing deal for men so long as you marry a good woman and you can withstand the pressure of being a leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:19 AM
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Dating is broken unfortunately, I think young men and women both have checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:17 AM
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Soviet feminism was a little more based but they still had a national cultural emphasis on traditional gender roles and childbearing. Feminism in the west is entirely a creature born of and from capitalism. Look at the girlboss movement shit, this is where it's going.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:36 AM
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Yes, that's what feminism set out to accomplish when they pushed for the abolishing of traditional gender roles. It just turns out their dream sucks a lot more than most predicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:14 AM
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Hey thanks I appreciate that, but really I'm here to try and encourage other men to take a better path than the horseshit society is offering. My wife and I are actually the same age, we grew up together and have been friends since we were young kids. We're 25 now and she already has her insecurities about being "too old" I just laugh, it's all society and porn culture pushing this shit on women. She's absolutely stunning, everything about her is beautiful, inside and out. Her body changed after…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:45 AM
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There's a lot of shitty pathetic excuses for men out there. My parents divorced when I was 10, my father treated my mother like shit and he played no role in my subsequent upbringing. I remember the pain of navigating adolescence as a boy alone, I remember the pain of my mother having to face life and raise us alone, I would rather die a slow painful death than do that to my wife and children. This is my deepest held value, I will never abandon my family no matter what challenge faces me. I must…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:33 AM
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I'm not sure if you understand what I was saying. I have a duty that my life is bound to indefinitely. My wife is beautiful, would it be very hard if she became horribly disfigured and I never had physical intimacy in my life again? Of course it would, I'm sure it would suck even more for her. That doesn't change my core duty and purpose, she is the mother of my children, so long as I'm breathing I will protect her and provide for her unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:23 AM
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If women stop having children society will cease to be viable in a very short time, we're talking about apocalyptic consequences for our species. All of those negative things you listed from the destabilizing of community ties, fractured divorced families, and fatherless children lay squarely at the feet of progressivism. Overpopulation is an unscientific myth perpetuated by people who don't know how to use google, the world is seriously headed for a demographic crisis. Women's fertility rates p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:36 AM
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Both are certainly at fault, both are products of the contemporary society they exist in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:23 AM
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Because men aren't attracted to that shit, the girlboss stuff is goofy and stupid late stage mass consumerism gone mad. Of course men don't want that by and large, there is zero biological basis for it. I'm not denying that partnerships exist where women earn more, I'm saying these dynamics do not work for the vast majority of men and women. Look at the demographic cliff we're heading towards, more young people are sexless than ever before and young women have almost totally stopped having child…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:05 AM
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Because men have been stripped of their patriarchal position in society while our innate biology is still oriented around patriarchal practices. It's the great paradox and I think it's doing a tremendous amount of damage to society, possibly what we're witnessing is the slow suicide of our civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:01 AM
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Simple, just look at historical precedent. The hunters are the killers and the leaders, women have a valuable contribution to make to society but it is distinct and separate from the contributions men are geared to making.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:57 AM
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Please take my upvote because I actually lol'd, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:55 AM
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Specifically I'm talking about professional work and the political mechanisms of being in the workforce. I'm obviously not saying women spent the last 10,000 years sitting on their asses at home doing nothing. I'm talking about the patriarchal system where leadership and power in society is held by men. Do you want to address anything else I said or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:38 AM
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Nope women have definitely not always participated in all of those things lol. The problem with the contemporary status quo is it puts social structures at odds with our biology, women who earn at a higher level still want a man they perceive as being able to provide and protect, it's not even a conscious selection practice. So as women begin to graduate from post secondary institutions at significantly higher levels than men, and earn higher salaries than men, they still want to find men even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:31 AM
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Women's participation in the workforce has irreversibly fucked traditional dating conventions, we're in uncharted territory and feminists try to tell you that human mating practices are an unnecessary luxury. I think we're probably headed for a pretty dystopian future where society is more fractured and hyper atomized than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:17 AM
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No men except the most depressed and self hating losers would be satisfied in the role of "stay at home husband" there's a reason this role does not exist in nature, it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:13 AM
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50/50 is a bullshit model and it doesn't work, rather than hyper focusing on a rigid and linear vision of equality couples should instead focus on contributing in roles where they offer their greatest inherent strengths. Men and women are fundamentally different, we have different needs and we bring different strengths to the table. I'm your age married with kids and my wife stays home, it's a really great dynamic for us and I'm deeply appreciative of everything she does for our household.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:11 AM
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You need to possess a basic, fundamental level of dignity in order to get your shit squared away and start behaving like a man. So many young men in my generation do not possess this basic dignity because society has robbed them of it to appease a shitty political narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:48 PM
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Totally unsurprising, unfortunately this is the result of end stage mass consumerism and the feminization of men. If you socialize men from birth to reject all attributes of masculine identity they usually turn into miserable depressed losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:33 PM
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Wait, are you both chicks? My advice really only applies to conventional hetero relationships, homosexuality is a biological anomaly that I don't really have the perspective or background to offer any insightful advice on. With kids you're instantly playing life on a much higher difficulty setting, you still have all the same chores but now also childcare and all of your activities must now be oriented around your children's schedules and needs. This is where I see modern relationship dynamics f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:48 AM
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Just curious, do you guys have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:25 AM
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Yup. I'm mid 20s, married 7 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:13 AM
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I've noticed among all of my buddies with modern relationships the number one thing they fight with their partners about are regular responsibilities and obligations. For some reason it seems like modern couples almost never establish who's job it is to do what so they bicker incessantly over the dumbest little things. This is a huge part of why traditional gender roles offer so much stability, because it offers a template and framework for how relationships should be structured with a basis in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:52 AM
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Nope. My vows are worth every drop of my blood, I will die by my wife's side peacefully or I will die protecting her, either way no version of life exists for me where I don't uphold my most sacred oath.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:20 AM
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They're such a tiny fraction of a statistical anomaly that they're not relevant, the vast majority of men and women are not like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:17 AM
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I mean we've been friends since we were kids, so that relationship was built over a period of like 6 years before it even turned romantic. I had a crush on her in high school for sure but I was too much of a wimp to pursue properly, something clicked for me shortly after I graduated. I asked her out on a date, gave her roses, made it really cheesy and she's been my woman ever since. But I get that a lot of men have to build up some status and social capital first, a 25-29 year old guy going afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:52 AM
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Well I appreciate that, but I'm not sure I agree with the second part. If you look at divorce rates, and more importantly the rates of single motherhood it's kind of staggering. I'm not really sure if there are other healthy ways of doing it because modern relationships have strayed so far from our nature for both men and women, people seem generally more dissatisfied with their romantic lives than ever before in history. I know there are psycho guys out there who will use patriarchal positions …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:47 AM
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Yeah and so was I, we've been friends since we were kids. We both grew up in the same small town so that probably helps. She's way out of my league too so it's still pretty surreal almost 8 years later
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:30 AM
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100% my life changed dramatically from 18 to 25. At 18 I was literally a boy fresh out of high school with zero responsibilities or clues about life, renting an apartment working minimum wage. At 25 I'm a grown man, married with kids, owning my own house, managing household finances, etc. So much changes in terms of maturity in those early adulthood years, anyone who goes after teenage chicks is just looking for someone vulnerable to manipulate imo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:25 AM
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I started dating mine at 18 and we married at 21, we have kids and a house now. I much prefer the idea of building a life together from the start. She loved me when I had nothing, and she loves me now when I can provide her with everything. Her love has been an incredible motivator for me working as hard as possible to build a good life for our family.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:21 AM
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Old guys who chase young girls are creepy, why not just get your hot young wife when you're a hot young stud then you can grow old together and build life experience as a couple. Every dude I've ever met who brags about chasing younger girls is always creepy as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:03 AM
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"The thing I like is good and the thing I don't like is bad" Nice. Truly insightful collection of thoughts you have here. My marriage is built on trust, respect, understanding, and mutual respect, but I am not a blue piller in any sense. I am a man and the head of my household, my wife submits to my leadership but she isn't my serf, she's a human being with agency and the freedom to speak her mind any time she wants. Red pillers understand that there is a coded, biological and fundamental aspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 05:53 AM
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Reporting is lame 100% of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 05:37 AM
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Based and true. I noticed the difference with my wife when I started taking my training much more seriously. She feels up my arms and chest all the time and ngl it's pretty flattering lol. I don't think chicks like fat out of shape guys in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 05:35 AM
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Dad bods are a lie. Just because you're a father doesn't mean you need to be a fat lazy sack of shit with a big gut. In fact, if you're a father you should be aiming to be in the best physical condition of your life because your children will look directly to you to understand what a man is supposed to be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 05:30 AM
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They're out there. I started dating my wife at 18 and we married at 21, she's hot af. I think young people in general make better partners because old people are stinky and are steadily marching to their doom, such is the cycle of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 05:28 AM
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Highly based post
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:39 AM
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Nothing good about women comes from how much money they make, it's really weird they think that behaving more like men somehow makes them more attractive to men, it really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:35 PM
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I mean, it definitely does matter, it's pretty relevant. Because of these imbalances in behaviour and nature a patriarchal system is sustainable with only a plurality or even a minority of women agreeing with the system, but I would argue a matriarchal system would only be feasible with an overwhelming majority of men agreeing with the system, because even a minority rebelling against it could dismantle that power structure. You would basically be counting on having a big enough army of simp dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:08 AM
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For sure, and women are overwhelmingly more agreeable, submissive, and violent conflict averse than men are. There is the root of your issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:52 AM
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Matriarchy kind of falls flat on its face because it requires the express consent of men for it to be functional, because women have no way of physically securing their superiority in power structures. Technology has shortened the gap for needing brute physical strength to attain power, but guns and laser guided missiles haven't turned women into some super warfighters, women still aren't good at waging war and are generally hugely averse to violence in any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:47 AM
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Patriarchy is the most stable sociocultural system, that's why it's omnipresent across nearly every single culture at every point in human history since the dawn of the neolithic period.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:58 AM
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Make no mistake you can be attentive, energetic, and devoted in bed but if you look like shit no woman will give a single fuck what you can do in bed. It isn't that hard to be good and attentive in bed, but if you don't have good looks you need to put a lot of work into making yourself presentable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:54 AM
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I would push back on this and just say that politics and values are deeply intertwined, at the end of the day we interface with politics in our daily lives. I can be tolerant of divergent viewpoints but I really have zero interest in being friends with someone who shares none of my core values. You need to have common ground to build a strong relationship with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:45 AM
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You're not actually wrong. I wouldn't say men are worthless but that they do not come with as much attached automatic societal worth, the worth of a man is always determined by his actions and merit alone. Whereas women hold a huge amount of inherent worth regardless of what they accomplish because they're the only ones who can gestate and bear children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:37 AM
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Meh just watch the fireworks, simps who throw money at egirls aren't getting pussy, the whole reason they're being simps is because they're desperate for it. I don't think these types of guys will ever see real success in the sexual marketplace because it's pathetic and desperate behaviour. Sure they'll inflate some egirl egos but trust me man those people are largely a lost cause anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:35 AM
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The grim reality is that 50/50 is a joke, it never works. It's a path to divorce and resentment because men and women aren't linear biological equals, we are each most adept at fulfilling specific roles and tasks. I know a whole lot of guys who have done or are trying to do the archetypal 50/50 ultra modern relationships and their lives are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:22 AM
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I demand a level of submission in my marriage but I also pay all the bills and my wife stays home with our kids. I think that dynamic makes no sense if you want your woman to be working. Also some dudes use that dynamic as an excuse to abuse women and that's wrong too, my woman is free to speak her mind and object any time, I greatly value her counsel in my decision making process. But I am the leader of our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:19 AM
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I appreciate the perspective women have to offer. I admire their inclination for empathy, compassion, sociability, and emotional intelligence. They are (obviously) a core part of humanity, our better side. The insights my wife offers me are always fascinating because her mind works so differently from mine. She can give me a perspective that my brain isn't capable of generating independently. I'm a really strong believer that men and women work best together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:53 AM
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Yeah for sure there's a balance to be struck, I always end up saying just enough based shit to make politically inclined chicks hate me right out of the gate. The key is non political women, those are our best hope. My wife didn't have a strong political orientation but she had good values, as we bonded her politics naturally followed mine. I think most women who aren't rotted to the core will just naturally follow good men in matters like politics and ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:48 AM
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Not worth it. Marry young, have lots of children, and resist the degenerate aspects of society rather than actively partaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:22 AM
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Take a break and go outside, breathe some fresh air, recognize the peculiar nature of your existence at this point in time, then understand that you can do better than this. Stop being a coomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:20 AM
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Poly is a bad idea because it's inherently unstable and relies on men fiercely competing with one another to accumulate women. It would lead to violence and the destabilizing of society for sure, just like it did historically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:16 AM
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The best combo is to be masculine as fuck while going out of your way to treat women with respect and honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:09 AM
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Im 5'9, my dick is big enough to do the job, and I have enough money in the bank to not care about money. Lads, none of this shit is important. None of this will make you into the man that society needs and what women actually desire. (Unless you're a midget with a micropenis and like 50 bucks in the bank)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:04 AM
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Totally agree. Men and women naturally have divergent interests, I'm traditionally masculine while my wife is feminine. She isn't interested in fighting, killing animals, or wrenching on dirty old engines, which is completely fine and normal for a woman. Men and women are complimentary opposites, a lot of people forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:58 AM
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It would look like this: men, with the way society is structured now, most of you are fucked. Your only hope is to change this society for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:55 AM
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You're spouting complete and total bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:44 AM
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Because we're complimentary opposites, historically women needed men to survive because they're too weak to survive on their own, and we both need each other to fulfill our base biological imperative and reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:28 AM
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In what sense would that be beta? Maybe if my woman was all used up by the time she settled down but we started dating at 18 and married at 21. This is what healthy functional adult partnerships are actually supposed to look like. She stays home, she cooks, she defers to my leadership, she trusts me with protecting our house and family. So many of my peers are having a fucked time in the dating world because we've strayed so far from the root fundamentals of man-woman partnerships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:53 AM
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Men are terrifying to be fair, they're pretty well inherently violent because for much of human history it was an evolutionary benefit. You just need a good man capable of violence to protect you from the bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:40 AM
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Sounds like you're really skillful at picking male partners, no introspection needed here whatsoever you go girl!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:38 AM
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The problem you inevitably run into is literally nothing great about women comes from how much money they make, nothing. So you're looking for a woman using one of the most worthless metrics imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:31 AM
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My wife is way out of my league but that's okay because I'm a man, my fundamental biological job isn't to look pretty, it's to gather/provide resources, to be strong enough to destroy threats to my family, and to teach my sons how to become men. Im not a bad looking guy by any means but I don't really give a fuck about nitpicking my looks, I'm entirely focused on being strong, virtuous, and exercising courage in my daily life. That stuff is what makes men great, and generally what makes women at…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:28 AM
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I'm def an average guy, my wife is significantly hotter than me. Perks of coming from a small rural town. Don't settle kings. Having a hot woman to cook for you and bear your children is a huge ego boost for sure, I would recommend it to any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:22 AM
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More whores won't get ugly weak dudes laid. Those ugly weak dudes need to buckle up and fix their shit, moreover our demented society which commodifies and gamifies romantic interaction needs to be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:18 AM
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Yes 100% I get called an incel all the time on reddit and it's pretty funny. I'm literally married and get laid all the time. It's just the go-to insult for anyone who doesn't buy into the bullshit ultra progressive narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:16 AM
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Not the same at all IMO, porn is infidelity and fucked up for your brain, whereas holding a vibrating piece of plastic on a woman's clit is just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 06:12 AM
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Yes that's also true. I would say on average women are significantly less piggish than men, that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:56 AM
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Idk man I get laid a lot more than once a week, my wife is a totally wholesome lady but also crazy sexy. My buddy was engaged to a hardcore careerist chick, she's a software engineer and she legit acted like a robot. They would have to schedule sex on the calender because they had so little natural intimacy in their relationship. To nobody's surprise they broke off their engagement after like two years but still, I can't imagine having to deal with that. I'm not sure if chicks will find true ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:55 AM
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And it's worth noting, because of biology, women are much more successful at hooking up whenever they want than men are. Dudes are easy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:44 AM
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As a 25 year old man with a healthy sex drive that sounds like nightmare fuel to me, I couldn't give less of a shit about how much money a woman makes or her career prospects. It's just not something that most men care about at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:43 AM
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Guess what sociocultural system exists today which allows for "hook up culture" to proliferate so widely in our society? It's egalitarianism. The two are deeply interfaced. One only exists because the other creates an environment where that behaviour thrives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:41 AM
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This sounds fucking miserable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:34 AM
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Modern egalitarianism promotes promiscuity because it sees indulgence for the sake of self gratification as the highest virtue, so what you're looking for essentially doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:30 AM
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Traditionalism and values-based foundations to relationships are utterly incompatible with egalitarianism, decide which is actually important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:18 AM
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Because the way modern society is structured is no longer aligned with the biological realities of men and women. Even with a very high rate of woman participation in the workforce women still overwhelmingly desire a man they perceive as being able to "protect and provide" for them. We fucked up big time over the last few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:15 AM
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Idk I guess because I have sex with my beautiful wife 3-4x a week and I couldn't imagine using plastic and VR headsets to get off instead. It just sounds really... dystopian
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:56 AM
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You'll get there man, please don't give up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:24 AM
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Yeah I would say it's good for sure, but it would be an uncomfortable and unfamiliar reality for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:24 AM
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Why do people over the age of like 14 play this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:09 AM
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Dude come on just get a woman, this is painful to read
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:08 AM
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Being a man is great, but it comes with a high price, perhaps too high for the lower tiers of men. The thing with men is, nobody will ever give a fuck about you just because, they just don't. Men stand on their merit alone and it's through our actions that determines our value to others and society at large. Men are action oriented creatures, nothing is bestowed upon us and nothing is guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:06 AM
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Tell him it's good to be sexist and judgemental.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:04 AM
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Wait until she finds out men are stronger too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:03 AM
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Men who buy sex should be persecuted and shit on because they're propagating a system that treats women like human cattle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:01 AM
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Based hyde take
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:00 AM
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This guy fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:01 AM
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Social media has kicked all of this shit up to light speed. You did not have to be 6'+ to land a cute girl even a few years ago, things are going to shit crazy fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:24 AM
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Homosexual people are a biological anomaly, there's not much more to it than that. Lesbians are a small fraction of the woman population.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:21 AM
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Because they're finally getting the world they've wanted for the last four decades, along with all of its unintended consequences. Hopefully all of those pills and drugs can help keep up the delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:00 AM
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This seems like super sustainable behavior for a collective society and not at all destructive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:53 AM
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That's actually not even remotely true, you might think that's why it is because it's a convenient out for you but it has no basis in reality. France and Italy both introduced the most comprehensive maternity benefits and financial incentives on the planet in an effort to boost declining birth rates often attributed to "cost of living" and by the end of the experiment they found almost zero uptick in the birth rate, even with the new measures in place for several years. They had almost zero effe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:01 AM
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.... You think women are less coddled than men in the west in 2022? Okay hahaha I think we're done here. Our institutions, media, and popculture are pretty well centered around exclusively coddling women. Have a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:21 AM
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I really don't understand using the social construct angle as an attack, do you understand that our notions of sexual consent are 100% a social construct with almost zero basis in nature? Most of the base pillars of organized society are total social constructs, and absolutely necessary to build and sustain organized societies. I've met a lot of women, they absolutely are softer and much less assertive than men on average. They're also almost universally non violent. Almost every man I've ever m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:48 AM
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It's the opposite of masculinity in a sense. Really it's about an emphasis on compassion, nurturing, softness, nonviolence, etc. Where masculinity is about strength, dominance, courage, fighting, stoicism, etc. Women and men are intended to be complimentary opposites, that's why birth rates have sailed off a cliff and nobody young is partnering up anymore, women's high participation in the workforce combined with a lifetime of social conditioning telling them they don't need men they just need a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:08 AM
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97% masculine 0% feminine, you can smell my testosterone filled pheromones from a mile away
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:02 AM
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I've cut off friends who've gotten divorced and ruined their families because it's fundamentally incompatible with my worldview, I don't believe in divorce. I would certainly cut off a friend over cheating because it's degenerate bottom feeder behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:56 AM
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This is such a narrow and simplistic view, and utterly incorrect. Feminism and women's participation in the workforce are the chief reasons we will never again have a fertility rate that can sustain our society. It's going to get much worse from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:53 AM
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It's just porn culture, modern woman subconsciously thinks women who do stuff with other women are more attractive to men, and they usually are because men are surrounded by the same porn culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:49 AM
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Women aren't generally attracted to effeminate men who give off feminine signals, it's really as simple as that. I'm sure there's plenty of purple haired campus chicks who love that stuff but it's going to be a turn off to the vast majority of women. It's just biological reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:45 AM
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Humans are largely pair bonding animals, redditors that like to screech about pre Christian societies being polygamous fail to understand those arrangements were largely violently patriarchal where women were slavelike concubines for the men able to conquer their tribe/village
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:26 AM
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Women who decide not to have children are just going against human biological imperative so it's mostly a self own. All life on earth has a fundamental biological imperative to reproduce, from the smallest microbes to complex and intelligent mamals like humans. Women need men, random individual women who make strange life choices only facilitated by the extremely unique circumstances of modern western society don't define the biological rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:22 AM
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Yeah I wouldn't personally date a woman like you who tries to act masculine and I think probably a majority of straight men aren't into that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:50 AM
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The blood of your father, his father's father, and generations of men before that flows through your veins. Their lives were infinitely harder than yours or mine. Take that knowledge for what it is. There is a whole world out there in need of great and strong men, why focus your entire life on nothing but menial self gratification?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:52 AM
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Always go down the thorny path man. Any time you're offered an easy road and a hard road in life, take the hard road. You will shock yourself as you become a stronger and greater man than you could have ever imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:38 AM
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Yeah no worries you can obviously make your decisions in your life. I'm just arguing that having children is critical for people to grow and exist in general. I don't think my take is shortsighted, infertile people suffer in the same way blind people suffer you don't have to pretend it's a good thing. It's an anomaly of nature that impacts a fraction of the population. Definitely unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:16 AM
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It's a fine idea you just need to select the right man to be your husband. I would never leave my wife, I will serve her until the day I die. I've got a fat life insurance policy on myself too so if anything happens to me where I can no longer take care of her, she'll become fairly wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:09 AM
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Life is supposed to be hard, you're not actually supposed to cruise through it without ever being seriously challenged. I'm not sure what else to tell you. Children are the fundamental building blocks to personal growth because it's rooted in our natural biological process. I look at my childless peers and the vast majority of them haven't changed at all since we were teenagers because they don't have to, it's just ending self gratification while serving no higher purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:06 AM
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But it's not just "what makes you happy" you're acting like it's picking out your favorite color or band, this is biological stuff. We have this imperative hardwired into us and in fact all living things, having children is part of growing into a whole human being. Neglecting that is neglecting an entire chapter of your natural biological process, it's fundamentally irrational. Having kids is hard man, but that's part of what helps you grow into a true adult. I look around at some of my childles…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:47 AM
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I'm perfectly content living out my life in service to my wife and children, in fact it fulfills me with a truly deep and meaningful sense of purpose. Life isn't meaningless, the material shit you buy and waste time on is meaningless. Your genetic permanence is a core biological imperative, dying without kids and wasting your life consuming useless shit is social engineering. The macro impact is my concern here, if we collectively throw up our hands up in the air and screech "let people do what …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:37 AM
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You should be dependent on your husband ideally but I don't see anything wrong with the state subsidizing the household if it's unified, productive, and raising children in a loving environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:32 AM
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That's the most deplorable, stunted, and self centered take on existence imaginable, imo. Our civilization is definitely doomed I don't doubt that for a second, there are millions of people out there like you who couldn't care less about anything beyond their own immediate self gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:30 AM
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I have kids and my wife stays home with them, no financial incentives. I know how much they cost to raise. Most of the people saying that's the primary barrier are full of shit. It has never been easier in human history to raise children than now if you live in a first world country. Women's participation in the workforce is the number one factor in declining birth rates, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:19 AM
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France and Italy both tried extensive programs to support mothers and raise fertility rates including longer maternity leave and direct financial incentives, literally the best maternal benefits on the planet. It led to almost 0 uptick in the birth rate, women overwhelmingly choose to not have children when they're socialized to behave like men and prioritize careers/personal consumption over everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:52 AM
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Women's participation in the workforce is the most directly attributable factor in nosediving birth rates. Consumerism has convinced women that money, career status, and material shit is more meaningful than family and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:51 AM
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No that's probably not a workable solution, I don't have a solution unfortunately but just ignoring the elephant in the room isn't going to do us any favors. As women's participation in the workforce climbs birth rates fall straight off the cliff. We need to identify some of the cultural factors at play here, including hyper consumerism, immaturity, stunted psychological development, "girlboss" and "hustle" culture, etc. Humans are supposed to want to reproduce, there's a lot of fucked up social…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:27 AM
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Unfortunately it's not a good thing at all, China is also facing a demographic collapse in part because of high female participation in the workforce and it's pushing their country towards war because in a few decades they likely won't have enough young men to fight. If you read up on demographic collapse it's pretty apocalyptic, it will essentially lead to societal collapse and civil strife. Automation can't just magically make up for women collectively deciding they no longer want to participa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:15 AM
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It's not about shame so much as pointing out that society is on a catastrophic collision course and that modern dating isn't sustainable. It will lead to total demographic collapse with birth rates sailing right off a cliff
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:58 AM
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