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I get what everyone else is saying, but I found out that someone knew my wife was having an affair and didn't tell me, and I fucking hate them for it. It is shitty to watch another human's life be ruined and to let the joke be on them. You think you're embarrassed? Imagine finding out other people knew and viewed you as a cuck the whole time.
/r/Divorce_Men17/05/24 03:14 PM
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I use it to my advantage. They cry for mom and say they miss her, I say I miss her too. I let them know that she's welcome to come home any time, but that she won't let me come visit them when they're with her. I want them to grow up and know she is to blame for all the lost time. She chose not to be there and prevented me from being there. They lost time with us because of her and her alone.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/24 08:05 PM
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You're a guy and in California, so they'll probably sentence you to death.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/24 08:03 PM
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I'm not happy with it. I've has to start using a pseudonym online to avoid being associated with her, even though its MY name.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/24 07:35 PM
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"Stupid Cheating Whore" in mine.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/24 07:33 PM
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I did. It was a big relief when the judgment came down, especially since it involved custody of my kids. Nothing more to fear.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/24 06:57 PM
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I agree. I went to register my daughter for kindergarten and her mom showed up. It was the first time we'd spent any time in a room other than a court in years. I accidentally called her "babe" to get her attention. I literally went home and threw up from the stress of it all, because I want to kiss her and then knock her teeth out. The emotional turmoil is sickening.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/24 06:24 PM
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Don't be afraid of antidepressants. I would not be here today if I hadn't started on them. There is zero shame, and it can work wonders.
/r/Divorce_Men09/05/24 08:21 PM
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Right. Monsters don't get happy mother's day wishes. If she had been a better mother and considered how much she was hurting her children, she wouldn't have left in the first place.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/24 06:37 PM
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It took mine negative two months to find a new man.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/24 06:35 PM
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Nope. She can burn in hell.
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/24 05:55 PM
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I've been in that same situation, brother. I still am sometimes. My ex came to Kindergarten registration recently for my daughter. She and I sat there and had to act like nothing was wrong for several hours. It was hell and very embarrassing because it was still obvious we weren't together and didn't want the other there. Every muscle in my body was telling me to hug her. I was literally sweating by the time we left and I just sped away and left her in the parking lot. I hope she cried the whole…
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/24 08:51 PM
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She moved 170 miles away and didn't want it, and it was wholly in my name anyway.
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/24 07:40 PM
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I mean, I have not murdered anyone in real life, so...
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/24 04:00 PM
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I feel that. My MIL began having an affair so she convinced my wife to as well because I had hit a rough patch with jobs and my earning capacity. Since she left, I got a job with the city and got my VA benefits upgraded, so now I earn more than I ever did while she was here.
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/24 04:00 PM
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She's starting to settle into the appropriate level of submission toward me since I now control the kids' schedules and will be the parent responsible for their extracurriculars and handling their school and medical affairs. But she is still clinging to the idea that she'll be more active in their lives than she really will be. She moved to the other side of the state to continue her affair. She isn't going to be at the soccer games or parents teacher conferences or doctor appointments.
/r/Divorce_Men26/04/24 03:59 PM
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Six years, but that wasn't a factor. She moved hours away and had nothing of her own. She didn't want the house, and made lots of other mistakes in court like admitting to her affair and admitting she wants to take my money doesn't care about the kids. She even said she didn't care if I ended up homeless and demanded forced sale of the house. Judge was livid.
/r/Divorce_Men25/04/24 07:01 PM
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Judge was compassionate and hates cheaters.
/r/Divorce_Men25/04/24 06:59 PM
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I guess I'm just in a phase of recovery after the divorce that more of the positive memories are coming back now, and I'm not avoiding them anymore, so I'm now mourning those thing I wouldn't let myself grieve before.
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/24 06:32 PM
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He was a coworker of her mother's. My MIL actually deliberately set them up and told my wife to have an affair and divorce me. I hate him because he knew we were married, he knew we had children who relied on us providing them with stability, and he still came in and destroyed it all. Of course she is even more to blame, but he deserves a slow, painful death. Mom fought hard. She just couldn't beat me.
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/24 06:11 PM
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The backstory is she had an affair and I want to murder him. To make matters worse, I have PTSD from something that happened in the military involving getting arrested, so when I have nightmares about these things they really mess me up.
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/24 06:00 PM
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They do, but I get them weekdays during the school year. week on/off during the summer.
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/24 05:54 PM
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That's just it. As men, we don't like to feel victimized. Women are better at capitalizing on it. The justice system doles out justice. Who gets justice? Criminals and victims.
/r/Divorce_Men23/04/24 07:03 PM
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And that's something I noticed going through my divorce. The judge didn't care about gender as much as she did victimhood. I didn't stand tall and act like a strong capable man, I showed the truth that I loved my wife and my family and didn't want this. The judge reamed my ex and gave me everything. Women win because they're usually the victims. Obviously that is not always the case, and I definitely had a more challenging battle winning custody than she would have, but I think victimhood needs …
/r/Divorce_Men22/04/24 09:14 PM
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For real. This sub may be pro-men in divorce, but it should never be pro-cheater. This guy deserves to lose everything.
/r/Divorce_Men22/04/24 05:05 PM
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Rub one out and get on with my life. I hate it but it works.
/r/Divorce_Men16/04/24 04:08 PM
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Hate and anger are valid emotions. Their purpose is to inspire change and build protective barriers in you. You shouldn't try to control them, but also don't let them control you either. It is hard at first, but it does fade. Let the anger strengthen your resolve, then breathe it out. You aren't better than those you hate (and therefor your anger is not righteous) if you allow anger to control your actions.
/r/Divorce_Men15/04/24 04:17 PM
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Fortunately, she is beyond the ability to make those accusations. They would have needed to be made during the divorce proceedings, and our judge event made the outright statement that she would not tolerate any future accusations from either of us. She was a very smart judge. She knew my ex would be very angry at her ruling, so she snuffed out her future accusations before she could make them. She is already searching for ways to destroy me and take my kids. She tried before and failed. I prove…
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/24 08:58 PM
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No one thinks it would be sweet revenge for the hell they put us through? This woman bade me end my life because she wanted me out of her way. Sure, success is the best revenge, but isn't a little justice warranted sometimes too?
/r/Divorce_Men12/04/24 04:53 AM
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You're right, I don't get CS sadly, but I am the primary. Mom gets three weekends each month. Mine is their primary residence for school and mailing purposes.
/r/Divorce_Men12/04/24 04:51 AM
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Correct. No one is paying any child support. Me because I am primary, her because she is a woman and that would make the state uncomfortable.
/r/Divorce_Men12/04/24 04:50 AM
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Inderal. Ask your doctor. It helps in a tight spot when you can't escape and go calm down, like at work. It's a beta blocker, so as long as you don't have blood pressure issues your doctor should give it to you or recommend a psychiatrist who will.
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/24 03:32 PM
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What a dumbass. She's trying to push your buttons by discussing her sex life. That means she still cares what you think and she's trying to bury that feeling by acting superior to you. She's immature.
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/24 03:32 PM
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I would burn them at the stake given the chance. MIL directly facilitated my wife's affair.
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/24 02:40 PM
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Dude that' awesome. I didn't have to refi either and kept my 2.6% VA loan. Life really is so much better single.
/r/Divorce_Men08/04/24 04:57 PM
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I'm always floored by the ones who have super demanding bios about no hookups and no games when they're ugly as sin. Simps have really ruined the world.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/24 07:57 PM
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Then your daughter is not on the hook if your LLC gets sued.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/24 07:27 PM
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As you've seen first hand, we live in a selfish, fallen world. Women are pretty much the cause of it, too. Go get yours, buddy. It's her responsibility to know what she wants before giving up sex, not yours.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 07:33 PM
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Is your business not an LLC?
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 06:32 PM
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I certainly wouldn't, but I don't know the laws in your area.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 05:35 PM
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Same! Love it. I started up my depression meds the day she told me she wanted to leave. It obviously didn't matter, since she was having an affair, but I knew I would need to be on them in the coming months. I was right. They definitely saved my life.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/24 04:22 PM
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They aren't trying to "woo" anyone. They don't believe they have to. That's why so many of them won't even write a bio and just, "If we match you'll find out" implying they expect you to swipe on them despite knowing nothing about them.
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/24 04:47 PM
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You're literally exemplifying the very thing you think you're accusing men of doing. And, yes. Women are hapless, naive creatures.
/r/Divorce_Men27/03/24 05:32 PM
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You deserve to celebrate surviving it, mate. Mine wasn't as bad as yours, but it took two years and I nearly killed myself several times. I wasn't celebrating winning custody, or being divorced, I was celebrating surviving the worst hell of my life.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/24 04:21 PM
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Women constantly get bad advice from other women. They lack the capacity to reason or filter out the nonsense from the good advice. They are so highly susceptible to coercion it's a wonder we ever gave them the right to vote at all.
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/24 04:20 PM
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529s are hell. I've been trying to get mine for years. My grandpa started it then went and died. It belongs to his trust now, and the executor of his will is being a cunt and won't sign it over to me. Courts won't help. the 529 office won't help. No one knows what to tell me. The money is just gone.
/r/Divorce_Men25/03/24 08:26 PM
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Some things, sure. I still want to give my daughter a better life than I had.
/r/Divorce_Men25/03/24 07:48 PM
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I'm not sure you have a say. The judge will look at your marital resources and decide what's healthiest and fair. My ex told the judge that it was "In my best interest for me to sell the house." Referring to me, of course. Yes. It's in my best interest to be homeless. Thanks.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/24 05:31 PM
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Right I was gentle about it. She's learned to weaponize love recently since the divorce became final. I suspect Mom isn't abiding by the "no negative talk about the other parent" rule.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/24 05:29 PM
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My daughter told me last night she wanted me to make more money so I could buy her more toys and then she'll love me more. She said she wouldn't love me if I didn't have any money. She's five, but it still hurt.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/24 04:52 PM
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And when she can't, the courts will force the sale. Or they can keep you on the deed and she has to give you half the equity when she sells and it appreciates. You're in good shape.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/24 03:06 PM
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That bitch fled the day I caught her cheating and never came back. I kept the house and all the equity. She lives in her mommy's basement and sees her kids every other weekend.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/24 08:24 PM
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Wish I had thought to include this. All she has to do is bring her affair partner once and I'm out of the picture completely. I worried about that all through the two-year divorce process.
/r/Divorce_Men21/03/24 08:13 PM
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In my state, parents cannot move even next door without consent of the other parent. Check your state laws. There is a time restriction though, so hurry.
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/24 05:51 PM
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Eh, family court doesn't exactly care about the legality of evidence. Judges know everyone in the case is a liar and that it doesn't change anyone else's lives, so they just go on feeling.
/r/Divorce_Men18/03/24 04:05 PM
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Doubtful. Most people don't get lawyer fees unless the court has preestablished what would cause that. You're allowed to divorce someone without having to pay for their attorney. That would make it too difficult for poor people to get divorced.
/r/Divorce_Men08/03/24 08:52 PM
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Hey I did the same thing. Luckily, it doesn't matter. Just wait till you're served and hire your own. I recommend hiring one with a history of beating her lawyer. Mine was coincidence (or God) but I happened to hire the best in my city and she hired probably the worst. Mine wiped the floor with hers. My ex hired her because she was an outspoken misandrist, so she figured she'd fight more passionately. Really it just meant she allowed her emotions to cloud her judgment.
/r/Divorce_Men08/03/24 07:12 PM
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Now in middle school, but taking AP high school classes for college credit with 4.0 GPA. Your kid is gifted and clearly in good hands. All women claim men are manipulative. I'll go out on a limb here and say your kid get's her smarts from you, so I can conceive that Mom needed to be "manipulated" sometimes. My situation is the exact same. My ex was a stereotypical dumb blonde and kept making horrible decisions. I finally just started "manipulating" her (read: using non-verbal communication to he…
/r/Divorce_Men08/03/24 05:02 PM
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Mine is over and judgment is passed but it takes 30 days here to finalize. I think we have a week left. Took us two years. I can't imagine a third year of this hell.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/24 07:11 PM
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"Our marriage was over long before I left." Yeah, because you cheated.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/24 05:45 PM
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Why go through years of being a lonely sack of crap just to try and make my daughters lives better? Because they deserve it. They didn't ask to be brought into this world. They will suffer from the divorce too, but the difference is they will carry it their whole lives. It will shape them more dramatically than it will shape you. Your wife is a selfish monster for breaking up the family, especially with kids that young. Trust me, I spent several nights on the phone with the suicide hotline, or p…
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/24 06:07 PM
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Little of both. I was definitely relieved, but I wanted to celebrate my surviving the ordeal. I literally almost didn't, plus I got primary custody, so I went out with friends that night. The end of difficult chapters can be worth celebrating even if they leave you with scars.
/r/Divorce_Men04/03/24 05:34 PM
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Cheaters always cheat, so I guess we just wait for that to happen and blow up in their faces. "Oh no! How could this happen to me! I didn't realize when I had an affair with a married woman that she didn't respect the sanctity of marriage!"
/r/Divorce_Men27/02/24 06:21 PM
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Me too, man. I want to see it happen in real time and know it's because of what she did to me. I won primary custody of our kids, so that's at least some justice. Plus, after she left, I got a huge raise too and make way more money so that's also a good one to throw in her face. I just need her to go through hell because of her AP.
/r/Divorce_Men26/02/24 11:54 PM
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Buddy, I'm so sorry for what you're feeling. I was there, others here have been there. We can all tell you that it hurts like hell at first but it does slowly taper off. Let yourself feel the grief, recognize them as what they are, and slowly you'll develop an immunity to those feelings. They won't crush you like they are now.
/r/Divorce_Men26/02/24 07:00 PM
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Even worse, I have full custody and mom wasn't ordered to pay me any child support because it would be "inappropriate."
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/24 05:00 PM
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Get a new lawyer.
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/24 09:47 PM
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No matter how cliche it sounds, it does get better. I'm diagnosed 100% VA disabled with PTSD. I have severe depression and anxiety, and suffer from near constant suicidal ideation. I manage it with medication and intense therapy, but it still hurts. I tried to kill myself so many times during the divorce. Now I can proudly say I don't fear that anymore. I was able to look at old pictures of us from high school and when we were so in love, and it just made me smile. I used to cry and lose my mind…
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/24 04:18 PM
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Accountability. Father figure.
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/24 04:14 PM
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Do you feel that your kids cannot be baptized twice? Can you each have the ceremony?
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/24 08:05 PM
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Because that's what it is to be a man. It isn't fair but that's what life has handed us. Women children and puppies get it for free. We don't.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/24 06:10 PM
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Don't have to pay any alimony to a dead woman.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 11:39 PM
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So much easier to tell her to hit the road. She can sue all she wants I guess but in my state it wouldn't help her. No marriage license, no marital property. Until they catch on and demand marriage reform that entitles girlfriends to your shit and makes every state recognize common law marriage. Or they could just stop being hoes, but what do I know?
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 11:36 PM
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Then we're arguing the same thing. Marriage doesn't have to be a government contract.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 11:11 PM
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So that means you have to get married?
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 11:05 PM
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Some of these guys are real hurt educated and talk like that.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 10:40 PM
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I think you're confused. Marriage is not a real thing. It is a religious institution that the government decided was a convenient way to calculate taxes. Now that it's no longer religious for many people, it serves zero purpose, especially when divorce is heavily biased against one side. It isn't "unrealistic" and it definitely "counts." No one can tell you that someone isn't your spouse just because you don't have a paper filed with the government. If I want to get married in the eyes of God an…
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 10:34 PM
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"How do I protect myself from the gun I'm about to hand to my enemy?" Don't get married again.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/24 10:32 PM
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Hahaha good. Let her. I just got awarded primary custody of my kids today. God speed, brother!
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/24 06:55 PM
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If it's any consolation, I guarantee not a single person here knows who the fuck you are. No one is following your story specifically. There are 22,000 members here and we're all living the same hell.
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/24 05:22 PM
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Ignore anything her lawyer says. Period.
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/24 05:20 PM
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Go with her, treat her like she's you're sister, pretend to take a call halfway through from your girlfriend. Watch the lights in her eyes die.
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/24 05:19 PM
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For one last laugh I wonder if there’s anyone who can help me out with posting that assholes number up and flooding his phone with dick pics smh. He'll just sue you for harassment. It's not worth it. I've fantasized about contacting her AP a million times to remind him how many times I've cum inside her, telling him to enjoy my sloppy seconds, and thank him for taking a cheating hoe from me. He wouldn't respond, he'd use it as proof I'm harassing him, and I'd never get any satisfaction from it. …
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/24 05:22 PM
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"She only cheated on him because I'm obviously better. She found me and that's all she'll ever want."
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/24 05:19 PM
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Not really. If you plan to accuse your ex of child abuse, the court will assign a GAL.
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/24 05:18 PM
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My wife got engaged to a man the week I found out she was cheating. She still insists she wasn't cheating. They spent their anniversary in Florida last year. It was four months after leaving me.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/24 06:57 PM
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Ha. Same. Mine literally said IN COURT "I decided I was going to divorce him before I slept with AP, so it wasn't cheating." Her attorney had her hand over her face the hole time.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/24 01:39 AM
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Of course. I felt it in my spirit the night she cheated and until she left. When I finally dug hard enough and got the text logs and shoved them in her face, she just shrugged like she genuinely should not care that I know. She was truly confused why I acted like it was a big deal. Fucking monsters, every one of them.
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/24 09:00 PM
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Guardian Ad Litem.
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/24 05:38 PM
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Men want sex. Men worship women to get sex. Women believe they are deserving of worship. Women raise their standards because the dating economy is great for them. Men still want sex so they will simp harder and give a woman whatever she wants to get it. The cycle will never end. Reminds me of this scene from Holes.
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/24 05:28 PM
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You're asking for advice on what financial questions you should ask your ex? Without an attorney you're not in any control. She isn't really obligated to disclose anything to you. You're just going to have to go before a judge with proof that finances existed and cover your ass from here on.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 08:04 PM
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Honesty requires accountability.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 05:14 PM
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I will be at peace when I don't live in a world where we let people get away with the destruction they cause when they cheat. I hope my ex wife gets the same divine punishment my father got. It was worse than anything my mother could ever have done to him.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 05:09 PM
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Then to hell with her.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 07:54 PM
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Do you really want to know?
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 07:37 PM
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My ex got into my Alexa account (I'm a yuuuuge smart home enthusiast) and copied the logs. I once told Alexa I wanted to kill myself, not even seriously. You can hear it in my voice I was just stressed and said it jokingly. She used that in court to claim I was genuinely suicidal. Use the Alexa to your advantage. Set alarms to go off in the middle of the night at volume 10. Play baby shark a hundred times a day.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 06:17 PM
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You're nuts. No other way to say it. Stop playing to play and play to fucking win. This woman is trying to destroy you. That restraining order is so much more than what you seem to think it is. It established a precedent. No cop will ever take your side. If you let her anywhere near you, she has a gun to the back of your head till the end of time. Any time she gets mad at you, all she has to do is call the cops. Doesn't matter that she came of her own accord. You are in violation of her restrain…
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 06:13 PM
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Women are taught their whole lives that they don't have to face consequences. A man will come save them from their mistakes. It has always happened, so when would they learn to look in the mirror and think, "Oh yeah, there's the problem."
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 06:10 PM
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I disagree. If you're the cheater, you deserve damnation. Give those shit bags to the worms.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 06:09 PM
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Let her husband know. He deserves it.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 06:08 PM
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They don't care about the victory, they just want sex. I doubt most APs actually brag that they're stealing someone's girl so much as they brag they're having sex.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 06:07 PM
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It won't be a wake up call unless there are consequences. Doubt she gets so much as a stern look from the judge.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/24 09:53 PM
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Women are genetically predisposed to constantly look for the next thing they can replace in their lives. If you've done everything you can, she just replaces you. They are perpetually seeking a peace they can't find.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/24 07:36 PM
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You are grieving. Anger is a stage of grief, and its the hardest one I've found to get out of.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/24 07:34 PM
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But I never would have.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/24 07:33 PM
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My wife had the advantage of filing where she wanted to. She moved to an area where the judges were 100% guaranteed to side with her an give her whatever she wanted. She didn't want to wait. She filed in my county. Judge ripped her apart and gave her nothing. She's a weekend mom now.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/24 06:12 PM
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Monkeys never let go of the branch until they've grabbed another.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 05:44 PM
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Yep. My MIL came to my house a week before she took my wife on a trip with her company. She told my wife about this guy she recently hired and how my wife was going to really like him. I jokingly told my MIL to stop trying to convince my wife to have an affair. Yeah that's exactly what happened. MIL pimped out her own daughter and told her to divorce me.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 05:42 PM
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Are you on any new antidepressants? A lot of SSRIs will cause sexual issues. I started on Lexapro and suddenly could not have an orgasm at all.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 05:32 PM
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Stick with the bros here, the collective experience is unparalleled I hate myself for all the times I thought I was an exception to the rule. I was never, ever the exception.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 05:28 PM
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I said it was my instinct to do that, not that I do. I treat my children 100% equally. I adore them the same and I actively consider the direction my expectations of them will guide them into adulthood. I just wanted to point out that it is instinctual for men to want to spoil women, and that's where a lot of today's issues likely come from.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 05:26 PM
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Woke up one morning and all of her siblings decided I was the devil. Don't know what lies she told them, but I lost a lot of friends that day. I used to take her little sister out on "dates." I miss her terribly. Two of my brothers' wives, however, also flipped the script. They have always been shitty, and they hated my wife and I for nonsense jealousy reasons, but after my wife left they decided to reach out to her and start acting as informants just to spite me and my mom. They hate my mom. I …
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 05:23 PM
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At the end of it all, you'll have piles and piles of notes and case studies and evidence that the judge won't even look at. I did it. My mom did it. We're laughing at ourselves now. The only thing you can do to help in a divorce case is get the best attorney you can afford and stop drinking.
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/24 06:21 PM
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Worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery\_laws#:\~:text=Although%20adultery%20laws%20are%20mostly,criminalize%20it%20as%20a%20misdemeanor.
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/24 06:07 PM
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They are spoiled from day one. Us men love to protect and provide to girls. I truly feel differently about my daughter than my son. I see him as more capable and tougher than her, despite it actually being the other way around right now. I see him as a mirror of me and I want to teach him to fight for what he wants in life and work hard. I want to treat my daughter like a toy and give her what she wants and fall asleep with her in my arms. It's just an instinct I guess. Girls grow up believing t…
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/24 05:40 PM
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We stopped going to church. She stopped honoring the vows she made before God. We are now divorced.
/r/Divorce_Men30/01/24 05:34 PM
1

Canvas. Another canvas. She made room on the bench for someone who will be happy to sit there. Man I am killing it with these metaphors today.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 10:30 PM
3

Great question. I don't know! Hahaha. I've slept with a few girls since she left. None of them similar to my wife in any way. I liked some things, didn't like others. I've gone places I wouldn't go. I've learned lessons about maturity and the world and who my friends are. I've learned not to take things for granted. I've learned to value my mental health and give myself time to relax. My ex would never let me relax at all. If I had time to relax, I had time go get another job is what she'd tell …
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 10:29 PM
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Getting Past What You'll Never Get Over: Help for Dealing with Life's Hurts
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 09:53 PM
2

And another thing: When I was 15 (One of the most pivotal times of my developing life) I lost my dad. My parents were divorced and I absolutely worshipped my dad. Not only did I lose him, I couldn't grieve him, because he didn't die, he went to prison for child sex crimes. No one wanted to hear me say I missed him. I went from having a whole different personality at Dad's (because my parents were so different) to living fulltime with Mom. The reason I bring this up is because I had personality t…
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 08:51 PM
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Hey buddy. I am 30 as well. Married my high school sweetheart at 21 and spent every waking moment with her. Discovered the affair in 2022. The past 18 months have been a journey of self discovery for sure. It's not the easiest thing you'll experience, but it will have moments of pleasure. There will be times when the silence is deafening, and times when the quiet is wonderful. Times when you come home to an empty house, and times when you remember you don't have to go home at all. There is peace…
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 08:42 PM
2

I think it's the ruined memories that hurt the most. That I can't look back with joy at some of those times, or that I never get to say I married my high school sweetheart again. I don't get to go to another prom or watch my love graduate high school. I can't have more kids with anyone else. I can't buy another "first home." My kids won't have another first Christmas or birthday. Just all these memories that I cherished but are now corrupted.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 08:35 PM
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That's rough, buddy. Any kids? Take it from me, future you will regret the self harm. I'm 18 months in and have scars that will never go away completely. I hate them. I hate that I scared my mother so badly that I was always moments away from ending my life.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 08:27 PM
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For Christmas, my mom bought me this book. The first page talks about the timeframe and how it is what you make it. Just like described in the book, my own family told me after only a single month that they didn't understand why I wasn't over it. They were over my wife leaving, why wasn't I? So ignorant. To them it was a news headline. To me my whole world had been shattered.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 08:25 PM
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Married 7 years. Dated 10. Took her to prom, watched her graduate, witnessed the births of our two kids, was there when her grandparents died, gave her the life she dreamed of. She still cheated.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 08:21 PM
3

I feel like I blinked and missed the last 18 months. She left, I spent a few months in danger of killing myself, now I'm here. It's crazy how much better I feel. I still get angry. I was fuming last night just thinking about it, but it isn't consuming me like it did.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 08:02 PM
2

You possibly can't get divorced while pregnant in Indiana. https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/am-i-able-to-divorce-while-pregnant-in-indiana--2642248.html
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 06:30 PM
1

gtfo
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/24 05:24 PM
4

She likely mentioned it to a friend that she was "tired" (Read: something exciting hasn't happened in the marriage in a while) and the friend started telling her to divorce you. Women love poisoning one another.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/24 10:09 PM
2

Jealous of the abs, mate. Congrats on surviving and thriving. I'm still lonely, but every other facet of my life has improved.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/24 07:47 PM
2

I filed immediately last year and got to claim both kids, but I'm confused because she never said a word about it. Part of me thinks she just didn't file at all but I can't imagine why.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/24 07:42 PM
3

I suspect that most women will leave and be leery of turning into an all out monster, but that they have such shitty support groups full of spiteful, ignorant women who want to see men burn. They poison one another.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 06:29 PM
2

I went with a bulldog, hard hitting, no-nonsense woman. We had no way to lose anyway thanks to the circumstances my ex gave us, but it was still fun watching opposing counsel squirm in court.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 06:26 PM
2

lol right? The floor on my ex's side of the bed is for sheets and towels I washed and left to die.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 09:12 PM
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No, that's not what I asked. Let me word it better. What changes for you if you get married?
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 08:24 PM
3

They've gotten fewer for me. I already struggle with nightmares due to PTSD, so sometimes they just shift focus. She still shows up a lot, just not as much as before.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 07:38 PM
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Why do you want to marry her?
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 07:37 PM
2

I HATED (still do, actually) hanging clothes. When they're not with me I just live out of a laundry hamper, lol. My mom said I was the only of my siblings who wouldn't out clothes on hangers. It's just so tedious and pointless.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 06:59 PM
3

Yeah they just love helping and being involved. Through praise, I've convinced my daughter that she likes helping me hang clothes up and put the dishes away. It gives her a sense of ownership over her home rather than just being a guest when she comes. We have 50/50 right now, but when she starts school in the fall I'll have her all the time.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 06:48 PM
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I love the one-on-one stuff. My favorite memories from childhood are the days my dad would take me places without my brothers. I've learned to create traditions and hobbies that my kids and I can enjoy together. I downloaded a bunch of family-rated games on xbox like minecraft, and they love to sit and watch me play. I let them cook with me sometimes. They like to sit on my lap while I'm doing computer stuff. We do exercises each night with an app on my phone and they like to do them with me. Ki…
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 06:39 PM
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Good. Burn her life to the ground. Cheaters deserve the worms. I'm sorry for your pain, brother.
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 06:06 PM
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Sole/full custody and primary custody are not the same thing. If there is abuse going on, sure, fight to keep her away. But without solid, documented proof, and I'm talking police and DFS reports resulting in jail time, you're not going to convince a judge to do that. Judges want the kids to grow up with both parents in their lives. They know the statistics, they know what's best for kids. They do not believe that a parent can be unbiased in the middle of a child custody case because so few can.…
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 04:31 PM
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I disagree. Asking for full custody can show a judge that you don't value the child having a meaningful relationship with the mother. You have to show above all else that you care about the child's best interests.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/24 10:12 PM
4

Take her back in 3 years to get it adjusted.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/24 10:00 PM
6

I think you're being baited, but who knows. My ex took half our account then demanded half of what was left and said she took the first half during the marriage so it was hers anyway. It didn't fly, but it still caused headaches.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/24 09:59 PM
3

Stop speaking to her at all. All correspondence goes through attorneys.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/24 09:57 PM
3

I added "worthless" to the front.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 07:29 PM
3

Why not change it to something more descriptive of her tendencies?
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 05:18 PM
2

In my case and the cases of nearly everyone I've talked to, no, you will not pay for her attorney. She has a right to divorce you, a right to get an attorney, but not a right to have you pay for it. However, if it an extreme circumstance where you made lots of money and divorced her and cheated and cut her off financially and kicked her out and didn't support her and demanded a trial, yeah I could see a judge awarding her attorney's fees.
/r/Divorce_Men17/01/24 06:14 PM
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Sounds similar to the five stages of grief.
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/24 08:36 PM
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I'm so sorry you had to suffer through that. Their bastard child will grow up miserable and hating their parents. People who do awful things like this don't care enough about others to raise decent children. Unfortunately, the world is no longer suitable for the kind of marriage we all want. Families are expendable, love doesn't include Jesus anymore, no one is ashamed of doing shameful things. We are just the suckers who got roped into it before we knew it was a total loss. Don't beat yourself …
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/24 06:22 PM
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I actually have a therapist and we do CBT for my PTSD. I don't mean to imply that I'm utterly worthless in all ways, but I want a romantic companion yet no one wants me as one. That makes me worthless to the "customer." I want someone to affirm that I am worth having around and attractive and worth their attention. That it isn't happening I guess just speaks about my value as a lover.
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/24 08:11 PM
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my current GF hates her even more Just wait till you two break up. Then suddenly you're the enemy and your ex-wife becomes the good guy. Women don't have a moral compass, just an emotional one.
/r/Divorce_Men11/01/24 09:43 PM
1

I mean, that's wonderful and all, but if the whole world treats you like you're worthless, you're going to start to believe it.
/r/Divorce_Men11/01/24 09:39 PM
1

Not talking about the ex. I have been alone for almost two years and looking the entire time. I'm 30, I own a home, I'm a TV personality (so you know I'm at least not entirely hideous), and I think I'm overall a catch. But no one seems to want me despite all this. Starting to think my wife really was right to leave me and that I am the loser who didn't deserve her.
/r/Divorce_Men11/01/24 09:39 PM
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How can you love yourself when the world tells you you're unlovable?
/r/Divorce_Men11/01/24 07:01 PM
1

My state docket shows service info.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/24 08:30 PM
1

Never. When we're young we're desperate to prove we're big kids and ready for marriage. Nothing used to piss me off in basic training more than when these stupid 18-year-olds would be engaged to their girlfriends back home. One was even married already.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/24 08:28 PM
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I go back and forth. I have seasons of hating her and loving life without her, then seasons of hating myself and missing her. I'm in the latter now.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/24 08:12 PM
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"Emotional Abuse" is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard of. She flat out told the judge she never once felt threatened by me in any way, but that I was "emotionally abusive" because I "didn't make her happy." I'm about to blow a fuse today just thinking about it.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/24 07:22 PM
3

She filed. I cried so fucking hard that day. She cheated and left and told me she never loved me after ten years together.
/r/Divorce_Men10/01/24 07:20 PM
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Do what makes you happy, just make sure you know what that actually is. I have depression. My symptoms lately have been confusing, because while I don't currently want to die or feel miserable, I have zero motivation to do anything. I haven't actually done work at my job in months. I just sit here and collect a paycheck. I can't bring myself to clean or do much around my house. All I want to do is sit around and play video games and eat. Don't do that to yourself. Force yourself to go. It ALWAYS…
/r/Divorce_Men08/01/24 04:57 PM
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I mean she's been at this for like thirty years and is a highly respected lawyer. I'm letting it go thinking she didn't try as hard on this one because it was going to be so easy to get a win since my wife made so many awful choices.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/24 05:15 PM
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I'm a bit upset with my lawyer. She's usually really good, but she failed to submit a lot of paperwork that got a lot of my evidence thrown out. She recommended I get a home appraisal done (duh) and I did. Cost me $500. Then she forgot to file it as evidence so it got thrown out of court immediately.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/24 04:33 PM
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Now that I'm single thanks to my wife cheating, I'm especially sensitive to how I'm perceived by women in relationships because I don't want to be accused of trying to flirt with them. I've tried dating a few and became really good friends with a couple of them, and I love hanging out with them and their husbands. But I'm extremely careful to never give anyone a reason to feel uncomfortable with me talking to their lady.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/24 04:30 PM
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I'm the same. I want her to beg me to take her back, and I want her back, but I also was not her first choice. How can I ever be okay with that? She tormented me for two years and slandered my character and cost me tens of thousands of dollars to defend my name against her attacks. She tormented my children and made them cry to sleep missing their mom. There cannot be forgiveness for that.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/24 12:39 AM
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She will. She will hit the wall like they all do and remember how good she had it. I'm waiting for it to but I know it's coming.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/24 12:33 AM
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I'm right there with you, buddy. I truly believed this was forever. I thought we'd fight through anything together. My parents got divorced and I so badly did not want that for me or my kids. I still can't look at our engagement or wedding photos without crying, and it's been almost two years since she left. I miss the person I was. So much lost innocence.
/r/Divorce_Men01/01/24 10:22 PM
1

I did what my lawyer told me to do in the moment. She knew what she was doing.
/r/Divorce_Men27/12/23 06:53 PM
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Courts tend to consider the health of the parents, especially with younger kids like yours. That will not bode in your favor, sadly. However, explaining that you are terminal and want to spend as much time with your kids as possible at the end makes sense and should be agreed by the court. Your wife is a cunt.
/r/Divorce_Men22/12/23 07:03 PM
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I agree, but it was at my lawyers recommendation. Opposing counsel was clearly much more concerned with money and asset division than custody. The child support would have been negligible anyway. Like $200. So we offered to forgo it completely if it helped mom afford to move back to where I live, since she moved 180 miles away and claimed she couldn't afford to live anywhere else.
/r/Divorce_Men19/12/23 09:00 PM
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She moved ungodly far away and wanted to take the kids from me. She couldn't understand why she couldn't take the kids and just run away. After all, they're her kids, right? She genuinely did not think I should get any consideration in matters concerning my own children. That she should be able to leave, take all my money and my kids, and go be with someone else whenever she wants.
/r/Divorce_Men19/12/23 07:02 PM
1

So far I've paid my lawyer about $12k. I will owe her more soon, I'm sure. $300/hr and 8 hours yesterday. Insane. Equalization will be maybe $10k. Professional witnesses were $1250.
/r/Divorce_Men19/12/23 07:00 PM
2

I hate that for you. Mine was 8 hours in the court room yesterday, which sucked, but it's over.
/r/Divorce_Men19/12/23 06:56 PM
4

Mine has taken 18 months. After the judgement, probably 20.
/r/Divorce_Men19/12/23 06:34 PM
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Judges sometimes take certain cases "under advisement" to really comb over the details of the case before making a ruling. With it being the holidays, it will take even longer.
/r/Divorce_Men19/12/23 06:25 PM
2

I did, and I ultimately switched to a male provider and like him better. I needed a safe space to discuss some anger I had toward the negative societal norms that women adhere to. It helped.
/r/Divorce_Men15/12/23 06:41 PM
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Just don't go making big purchases. I moved $16k into an account to keep her from stealing it and no one cared. I had to agree not to spend it basically. Buy what you need to survive and try not to splurge on anything too expensive. They aren't even considering any money I now have, so after the divorce is filed it might draw the line in your state .
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/23 06:46 PM
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Don't do anything until you are calm. Trust me, I made that mistake through this whole process and it created hurdles for my lawyer. Definitely go to the gym. It will help in more ways than you know. If you're hell bent on divorcing, steel yourself for a tough fight. Stay in the home and do not leave. Research the grey rock approach. Make certain you never, ever give her any chance to call the police on you and accuse you of rape or DV. Film everything.
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/23 06:39 PM
3

Where the hell is glamour shots still operating?
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/23 05:07 PM
6

Sure. If you're capable then do it. There's no benefit to being unamicable... Respond with the level of aggression needed to counter hers.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 07:11 PM
1

I'm at $12k right now before buying the ex out. Looking at a $10k equalization payment to her, but I'll be getting child support, so I'll get it right back in a year.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 06:24 PM
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Fuck no. She tried to trick me into having aggressive sex with her because she knew the cops were already on the way. She planned on them kicking the door down to find us in bed and her crying rape. Jokes on her, I came faster than the cops did.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 06:19 PM
3

Get an appraisal. My ex wants me to buy her out, and she tried quoting me a massive jump in value of the home. I got an appraisal and learned the house is worth less than we bought it for and I won't owe her shit.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 05:37 PM
1

I'm on the same page as you, but I guess people say it because forgiveness is like a self-healing thing. It's like closure for your own sake. My dad cheated on my mom and left us. She tells me that it hit her one day that she no longer felt any animosity towards him at all, and that's when she knew she'd healed. She says it helped her feel at peace.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 05:35 PM
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How long have you been separated? After 18 months I'm starting to feel better. I have had a good time of reinventing myself. Making my life my own.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 10:29 PM
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Oof. That's awful. I've said way worse things than that. Hope that doesn't come back to haunt me.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 10:28 PM
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She is just scared and doesn't want to feel like she's going to regret this. Don't let her keep you in her pocket as a backup. If you're not her first choice, why would you want her?
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 09:42 PM
3

It might not matter when you file. This stuff takes years. I'm 18 months into mine now and it's just now coming to a close. I graduated college and got into a whole other one since she left. I got a full ride, so that doesn't factor in, but time-wise she could do it before the divorce is final no matter who files. But, shit, let her improve her earning potential. Less you'll have to pay.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 09:05 PM
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This one for sure. I let myself get wasted right after she left and I sent a regrettable text that is now going to be used against me in court. Alcohol is the enemy.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 08:27 PM
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Sad that the number is growing, but I'm glad those people have found their way here for support.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 08:26 PM
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Are you worried you'll have to sell to buy her out? Cause I got my house appraised recently and it came back lower than I paid for it. Might be a good time to get on, unless you think it will get worse before it gets better. I found this In my state, if you don't respond by a certain time, the judgement defaults against you. Typically your lawyer would accept service on your behalf. Do you not have a lawyer yet?
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 08:25 PM
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I think about it a lot. I have to believe that this wasn't as easy for her as she has made it seem, but the truth is, it was easy for her. She left because she was done. She cheated and moved in with him immediately. I'm sad because I'm alone. She isn't alone. She doesn't think of me fondly anymore at all.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 07:46 PM
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Why would applying for college affect things? I doubt it will change things. She'd have to already have the debt. Yeah, if you're going to get divorced then go ahead and file. Just stay in the house if you want to keep it. If you move out, a judge can make you pay the mortgage still, regardless of new expenses. Plus it can incentivize her to speed things up or leave. I did some financial fuckery and it didn't hurt me. I moved all assets into a separate account she couldn't touch. Left her comple…
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 07:45 PM
3

I started really relying on smart home tech to help me with the logistical stuff. My Alexas handle my grocery list, my reminders, everything. I do all my grocery shopping via walmart pickup to minimize the time spent on it. I handle almost all of my business via email so I can prioritize meetings. Doc appointments can be done remotely a lot of the time now. It's very efficient. Cleaning is tougher, but with practice, I've gotten to where I just clean as I go and it's always in an acceptable stat…
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 06:23 PM
2

My kids are young, and being a single dad even half the time has been hard. I'm likely going to get primary custody here in a few weeks. Sometimes I ask myself, "Geez do I really want this all the time?" But the answer is, no, I don't. I don't want to be a full-time, single dad. I want to be a husband and share the load with my wife. But that's not an option anymore, so Ill take the next best option.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 06:19 PM
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I think it's just too easy. It doesn't demand accountability and no longer bears shame. Divorce is so normalized that people will soon be able to buy one at walmart.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 06:15 PM
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Hm. Interesting take. I didn't factor in sale costs when I did my math. I don't think the judge would let me.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 06:00 PM
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And, sadly, it's a lesson that cannot be taught by words. You have to experience divorce to truly understand the trap you've been in all along. People in love won't listen to that truth no matter what you do.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 05:59 PM
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Calling DCF? I don't know what DCF is, but if she's threatening it you need to protect yourself. Seemingly in more ways than one. Your wife is sick and you need to do what's healthy here, as she's trying to destroy you.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 09:06 PM
1

You factored in the sale for her share and then didn't sell it? I'm curious why she accepted that. If the expense of a realtor wasn't actually involved, why would she let you factor it in?
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 08:19 PM
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DON'T SAY MY SON HAS FLAWS!
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 08:17 PM
1

Yeah that's my one problem. I've got this divorce in the bag and I'm going to win custody and CS, but I couldn't keep the vitriol out of the texts so now I get to defend my character.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 08:16 PM
1

It definitely has some pros and cons. Would it bother you to see her with another man? To see another man playing with your kids? Would it start drama if she saw you with another woman? You are living two different lives now. You deserve privacy from one another. You might pass her on the street a lot. But the kids will be a lot better off, I think. They can have a centralized "home" where their friends are and their lives are. They won't have to go through custody transfers. Heck, there wouldn'…
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 06:53 PM
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There are literally no other options. It is 100% one of these. My money is on number 2. She fucked around and realized that she was romanticizing a life she didn't actually want. My ex-wife did that to me while we were dating. Cheated, left me, then showed up crying at my door one day begging me for another chance. My dumb ass married that woman. Of course, she did it again. Don't do it, OP. Don't Do It.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 06:46 PM
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You've lost that innocence. We lose it slowly and in different ways as we grow up. Losing her made me realize that love is not what I thought it was. People don't stay by your side through tough times anymore. It's an ugly and painful part of a man's life when he realizes he's actually alone in this world. I'm 18 months in. I thought that I was very much going to lose my battle, but I haven't yet, and I'm so happy I didn't give up. Trust the millions of us who have been through this when we say …
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 06:43 PM
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I was forced to bond with my son. After he was born, I struggled hard to bond with him. I don't know why, I just didn't feel anything for him. He was 1 when she left, so I had no choice but to change diapers and play with him. I'm so glad for it. He's my best little buddy in the world. I can't believe I let myself miss out on the first year of his life, but I'm making up for it now. Plus now I have money and my house is cleaner than ever. I've gotten to find out who I am as a person. We had been…
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 06:39 PM
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Not here to discuss that.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 01:18 AM
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Okay but she's pretty based. And she's giving valuable information to OP in this case. Except for "My own personal view is that most men suck at relationship skills compared to women, and the good ones are taken, so I’m always going to assume that a man was the bad partner unless proven otherwise. From there it’s a matter of assessing where you broke down as a partner and if I can tolerate it."
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 09:14 PM
1

Sounds similar to mine, except mine is in two weeks. 18 months in the making.
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 09:12 PM
1

I'm thinking that is the case for me, too. My wife admitted to having an affair and not being willing to stay for the kids, and that "as a woman I can't make enough to survive" and that she wants me to pay her to stay home with the kids 24/7. Imagine telling that to a hard working woman who became a judge. Plus I'm sure she sees lots of dead beat dads who don't fight and don't deserve their kids, so when a clean-cut guy with a solid job and a home comes in fighting for the kids, I think that loo…
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 09:11 PM
2

Doesn't matter. They all see the same bullshit all day long and they're all sick of it. They know that all exes are shit, everyone hates everyone, and the world is on fire.
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 09:08 PM
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I told her AP good luck with my used cum sock.
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 09:08 PM
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No reason you can't do both. Live well and make them miserable.
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 09:04 PM
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